* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER [Call to Order ] ON MAY 5TH, SANCO MAYO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. WE WILL CALL PLEASE. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. NOLL? HERE. MR. DREWRY? PRESENT. MR. ROH? HERE. MR. SHEPHERD? HERE. MR. CHAIR. YOU, YOU HAVE A QUORUM? ALRIGHT, SO WE ARE [1.Fiscal Year 2027 Budget – Calendar Year 2026 Real Estate and Personal Property Tax Levy. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 26-9 to impose tax levies upon tangible personal property, machinery and tools, mobile homes, and real estate for the calendar year 2026 and to prorate taxes on mobile homes as authorized by § 58.1-3001 of the Code of Virginia. a. Memorandum from the County Administrator b. Proposed Ordinance No. 26-9 ] GOING THROUGH ALL THE BUDGET ORDINANCES RESOLUTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING. I'LL CALL ON MARK TO GIVE ANY OPENING COMMENTS WHILE I'M TALKING. IF MR. OWENS COULD, UH, COME UP, SIT, SIT HERE WITH US IN CASE YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WALK THROUGH THIS. BUT TO START WITH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS STAFF AND I ARE TRULY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU ALL SPENT ON THIS. BESIDES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME YOU'VE SPENT ON THIS AND HOW MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD. SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DON'T KNOW BEHIND THE SCENES IS THE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WHEN YOU MEET WITH FINANCE STAFF, ET CETERA. THERE, THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS PUT INTO THIS ON YOUR PART AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE THERE. 'CAUSE IT IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME AND I DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE THERE. AND THEN MY LAST OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU VOTE, TELL TO TELL THERESA AND HER STAFF AMY, UH, GREG AND VIRGINIA ARE ALL SITTING BACK HERE. DID I MISS ANYBODY? THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ARE ALL SITTING BACK HERE. THEY HAVE PUT IN COUNTLESS NUMBER OF HOURS ON THIS AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, SIR. AND UH, YOU CAN START TO WALK THROUGH THOSE. ALRIGHT. SO THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET, ADOPTING THE, UH, REAL ESTATE, UH, RATE AND THE PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S THE 78 CENTS AND $4 FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. UH, DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 26.9. SO MOVED. ONE CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH NINE TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR YEAR 2026. REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LEVIES. MRS. KNOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. RONE? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. NUMBER TWO [2.Fiscal Year 2027 Budget – Proposed Budget. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R26-48 to approve the budgets and appropriate funds for the County of York and the York County School Division for the Fiscal Year beginning July 1, 2026, and ending June 30, 2027. a. Memorandum from the County Administrator b. Proposed Resolution R26-48 ] IS FISCAL YEAR 2027. PROPOSED BUDGET TO APPROVE THE BUDGETS AND THE APPROPRIATE AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE, UH, COUNTY AND SCHOOL DIVISION. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET? SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY. SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPOSAL INITIALLY IS, UH, 2,000,014 AND THEN YOU FOUND ANOTHER, I THINK THAT WAS, UH, AFTER, WAS IT THAT EXTRA MONEY COMING FROM WHAT WE THINK THE MEAL TAX FOR THAT 467,000? IS THAT WHAT THAT WAS? SOME OF IT WAS THE EMISSIONS TAX AND SOME OF IT WAS JUST TRUING UP AND OKAY. CALCULATING SOME OF THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND STUFF. ALRIGHT. AND THEN NOW BASED ON THAT THEN WHERE DO WE PUT THAT MONEY? CIPC AND THEN SOME. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT MR. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I PROPOSE AUGUST TWENTY SIX FORTY EIGHT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT POST RESOLUTION NUMBER R 26 DASH 48 TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2027. BUDGET. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. ROH? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. NO? YES. MOTION CARRIES. [3.Proposed Fiscal Year 2027-2032 Capital Improvements Program. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R25-69 to adopt the FY2027 - 2032 Capital Improvements Program as a long-range planning document. a. Memorandum for the County Administrator b. Proposed Resolution R26-49 ] NUMBER THREE IS A CHANGE ON THE AGENDA. UH, THIS WAS AN ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 27, 22 THROUGH 2032. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. CIP. IT HAD BEEN MISSED ON OUR ORIGINAL AGENDA. IT'S BEEN ADDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, CIP HEARING? NONE. I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION. 26 DASH 49. SO MOVED AND ROLL CALL PLEASE. MOTION MADE BY MR. ROHN IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 49 TO ADOPT THE FY 20 27 20 THROUGH 20 20 20 32 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. MR. ROWE? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED ON THE FLOOR [4.Designation of Real Property Tax for School Purposes. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R26-50 to designate a portion of the real property tax for school purposes. 1 Board of Supervisors Agenda a. Memorandum from the County Administrator. b. Proposed Resolution R26-50 ] AND KEEPING WITH THE, UH, STATE REQUIREMENTS AND WE DESIGNATE A PORTION OF REAL [00:05:01] PROPERTY TAX TO THE SCHOOL PURPOSES. I BELIEVE WE HAVE APPLIED 40. KNOW IF YOUR 45, 30 5 CENTS OF THE PROPERTY TAX. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? OR THAT REALLY WHAT IT'S REALLY CALLED GARBAGE AND WEEDS. NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. I'M, UH, I'M SITTING HERE GOING, I JUMPED. SORRY. FOUR, BUT IT IS THREE. THAT WAS THE ADDED. OKAY. LIKE, WELL, THAT WAS AN EASY QUESTION TO ANSWER, . I DID ANSWER. SOMEBODY PAYS ATTENTION. NO, IT'S NOT GARBAGE AND WEEDS. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, MOTION ON THAT, UH, RESOLUTION NOW. I'LL MOVE. HEARING NONE MR. UH, SHEPHERD IS MOVING IT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 26 DASH 50 TO APPROVE THE DESIGNATION OF REAL PROPERTY TAX FOR SCHOOL PURPOSES. MR. ROAD? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. NOEL? YES. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. NOW YOU'RE GARBAGE AND WEEDS. NOW YOU GO. THAT IS THE WEEDS. THE, UH, TITLE. WHY NOT PUT, WHY NOT PUT TREES IN THERE? COULD HAVE SAID GARBAGE, WEEDS AND TREES. A STRAWBERRY. WE COULD HAVE PUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF IN. ALRIGHT, NUMBER FIVE. [5.Fiscal Year 2027 Budget – Solid Waste Rates. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 26-7 to amend Chapter 19, “Solid Waste, Garbage and Weeds,” of the York County Code to change the fees for solid waste and recycling services. a. Memorandum from the County Administrator b. Proposed Ordinance No. 26-7] YES. FISCAL YEAR 2027. BUDGET SOLID WASTE RATES TO SET THE FEES FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I'LL RAISE IT. AND IT APPLIES TO BOTH THIS ONE AND THE NEXT ONE. MS. POEO AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS REQUESTED US TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THESE RATES COULD BE ON TAXES, ON, UH, USED AS TAXES INSTEAD OF AS A FEE. AND, AND WE HAVE, AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT. UH, , BUT MORE DETAIL, THERESA MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, FEES ARE NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE. IF YOU PUT IT IN THE REAL ESTATE RATE, THEN IT, THEN IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE TAX DEDUCTIBLE FOR SOMEBODY. UM, WE ARE A LOCALITY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE TRASH. SO PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TRASH AND REAL ESTATE AND, UH, RECYCLING WOULD END UP PAYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH AND RECYCLING. IS IT THE SAME FOR SEWERS? YES. YES. SO, MR. MR. HILL JOINED A CONVERSATION WITH US THIS MORNING AND ALSO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO FIND THE, UH, CODE AT THE IRS THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T DO THAT . THAT SOLVES A PROBLEM, DOESN'T IT? IT DOES. OKAY. THEY, UNDER THE SALT DEDUCTIONS, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT FEES FOR LOCAL SERVICES ARE NOT DEDUCTIBLE AS THOSE TYPES OF TAXES. SO EVEN IF WE SAID, EVEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO DESIGNATE THEM AS TAXES, WHICH WE CAN'T LAWFULLY BECAUSE STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT. THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD. THE IRS WOULD STILL SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO. THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION ON PROPOSED ORDINANCE TWENTY SIX SEVEN. ROLL CALL PLEASE. A MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOEL IS TO DOCK PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH SEVEN TO AMEND CHAPTER 19, SOLID WASTE GARBAGE AND WEEDS OF THE YORK COUNTY CODE. CHANGE THE FEES FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. NO? YES. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. ROHN? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. THE NEXT [6. Fiscal Year 2027 Budget – Sewer Rates. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 26-6 to amend Chapter 18.1 sections 18.1-28, 18.1-52, and 18.1-72 “Sewage Disposal and Sewers” of the Code of York County, Virginia, to increase sewer rates and to make administrative changes. a. Memorandum from the County Administrator b. Proposed Ordinance No. 26-6] ONE UP IS, UH, CHAPTER 18 ON SEWAGE DISPOSAL AND SEWERS. SO IT'S FISCAL YEAR 2027. BUDGET SEWER RATES. UM, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD. HEARING NONE, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION. SO, MOVE THAT'S PROPOSED. ORDINANCE 26 DASH SIX. ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROHN ISSUE A DIVE PROPOSAL, ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH SIX TO AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE YORK COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE THE SEWER RATES AND MAKE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. RONE? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. FINALLY, [7.Fiscal Year 2027 Budget – Tax on Prepared Food and Beverages. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 26-8 to amend Chapter 21 section 21-151 “Levy of Tax; Amount” of the York County Code to increase the rate of tax levied on prepared food and beverage from 4 percent to 6 percent, effective July 1, 2026. a. Memorandum from the County Administrator b. Proposed Ordinance No. 26-8 ] UH, FISCAL YEAR 2027, BUDGET TO SENATE TAX RATE ON PREPARED FOOD AND BEVERAGES. THIS INFAMOUS RESTAURANT TAX. THIS IS TO CHANGE THE RATE FROM CURRENT 4% RATE TO 6% [00:10:01] RATE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? I WILL ADD THAT I'VE HAD AT LEAST A COUPLE EMAILS ON THIS ONE. UH, IT'S BEEN A, A LITTLE BIT OF A HOT TOPIC, PARTICULARLY AS IT'S GOTTEN SOME REVIEW THROUGH, UH, THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. UM, I THINK THE POINT WE'RE MAKING HERE IS THE 2% MEALS TAX IS THE EQUIVALENT OF ADDING 3 CENTS ON PROPERTY TAX. AND WE FELT THAT THAT LEAVING PROPERTY TAX AT 78 WAS THE FAIR THING TO DO AND TAKE THE BALANCE OF MONEY REQUIRED FOR OUR, FOR OUR BUDGET, UH, OUT OF AN INCREASED MEALS TAX. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINS WHY WE ARE AT 6%. I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH, MUCH OF A WAY AROUND THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. THERE'S AND BEYOND THE, THE IMPACT IT COULD HAVE TO THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE. UM, DOING IT THIS WAY. IT ISN'T JUST RESIDENTS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO IT. EVERY VISITOR, EVERY TOURIST THAT COME INTO THE COUNTY AND DYING SOMEWHERE IN COUNTY RESTAURANT HELPS CONTRIBUTE TO IT. SO IT HELPS SPREAD THAT LOAD OUT BETTER THAN IF YOU WERE TO APPLY IT TO SOMETHING LIKE THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE TAX. RIGHT. I'LL PAY MY FAIR SHARE BECAUSE I ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS . OKAY. BEEN THERE TOO. I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION THEN TO IMPROVE, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 26 DASH EIGHT. SO, SO MOVED. WAYNE LOOKING AT YOU. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MOTION MADE BY MR. DREWRY IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH EIGHT TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 21, SECTION 21 DASH 1 15 1 LEVY OF TAX AMOUNT OF YORK COUNTY CODE EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2026. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. RONE? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. NOEL? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE WHAT MARCUS SAID. THAT COMPLETES THE, UH, THE ORDINANCES OF, OF THE RESOLUTIONS FOR THE BUDGET. UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU, MARK. VERY WELL PREPARED BUDGET. GREAT FROM THE GET GO. AND, UH, I THINK WE WERE ALL IN LINE AND ON BOARD RIGHT FROM, UH, THE EARLY PORTION OF, UH, OF THE YEAR BASED ON, UH, WHAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH FOR RECOMMENDATION. WE THANK YOU AND WE THANK THE STAFF FOR BEARING, BEARING WITH US AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS COMPENSATION, UH, PACKAGE. BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. IT'S, IT'S ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A, A GOOD COMPENSATION PACKAGE FOR OUR STAFF MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. I'LL, I'LL STILL REFLECT ON YOUR PACE. YEAH. . . I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I, I AGREE WITH DOUG AND, UM, REALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I DON'T THINK THEY REALIZE HOW MUCH TIME WE POURED INTO THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR. UM, LOTS OF HOURS, LOTS OF MEETINGS. STAFF HAS BEEN GREAT GETTING US INFORMATION WE'RE ASKING FOR AND POURING OVER THE BUDGET AND DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE PEOPLE AT YORK COUNTY. AND, UM, SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF AND HARD WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THAT. SO THANK YOU MARK AND YOUR STAFF. I'LL GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT THE BOARD SUPERVISORS DOES IS REALLY NOT VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN, A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT'S GONE ON, A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE A, I THINK A REALLY GREAT JOB AND STAFF HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL. AND I, I REALLY THINK THAT I'VE DONE A LOT OF BUDGETS. I SHOULD KEEP SAYING THAT, SHOULD I? BUT NONE. NONETHELESS. I THINK YOU ALL STEPPED TWO AND WE HAD MORE MEETINGS THAN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD EVER NEED, BUT IT SHOWS IN, IN THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE. AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AND WE, WE'VE BEEN AT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY, THE WHOLE, THEY STARTED RIGHT AWAY. THE, THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WOULD PROBABLY BEEN NINE MONTHS SINCE DEPARTMENT HAS START FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY NEED AND SO FORTH. AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND THAT SIDE OF THIS ROOM HAS CONTRIBUTED TO IT TO ONE DEGREE OR OR ANOTHER. IT IS BEEN A LONG AND ARDUOUS PROCESS. UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST GOTTA ASK THE BASIC QUESTIONS. WHAT DO WE NEED TO OPERATE THE COUNTY FOR A YEAR? WHAT DO WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE? HOW DO WE MEET OUR COMMITMENTS AND LIABILITIES? AND WHAT IS THAT BARE MINIMAL NUMBER? AND THAT'S WHAT ALL, EVERYTHING WE JUST PASSED HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO, ADDRESSES THAT. AND IT'S, IT REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING A NICE EDGE THAT IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THE WHOLE THING JUST FALLS APART. SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHAVE IT ANYMORE THAN, THAN, THAN WHAT WE DID. AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE EXPECT TO SEE FOR NEXT YEAR. SO REALLY THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE'S ALREADY ALREADY STARTED AS FAR AS THAT GOES. SO, UM, BUT THIS ONE'S DONE. [00:15:01] WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD, WE'RE GOOD FOR A YEAR, WE KNOW WHAT WE GOT. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND ON ON OTHER THINGS. NOW YOU, LET ME JUST ADD MY, MY, UH, GRATITUDE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE PROPORTIONS OF THE BUDGET IN YOUR COUNTY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE REALLY NOTICED IN THE COUNTY, UM, EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, THE BIG AREAS LIKE THAT TAKE UP A HUGE HUNK OF OUR BUDGET. AND THEN YOU GET DOWN, YOU LOOK AT THE, THE ADMINISTRATION PARTS AND YOU, AND YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE NOT EASY TO EXPLAIN UNLESS YOU GOT A CHEAT SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE EACH ONE. UM, WHAT FOLKS DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND AND SEEING THAT IS THAT WE OPERATE ON THREE BUDGETS. OUR STAFF IS DEALING WITH THREE BUDGETS AT THE SAME TIME. NOT ONLY DO THEY PUT THE FUTURE BUDGET TOGETHER, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET AND THE PAST BUDGET. AND SO THERE'S THREE BUDGETS YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH. AND, AND SO WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, YOU, YOU GOT TOO MUCH STAFF TO DO THIS OR TOO MUCH STAFF, THAT'S WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE COUNTY WORK. AND FOR, FOR ALL YOU FOLKS IN HERE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, AND, AND I KNOW SHEILA TALKS ABOUT THIS BUDGET, AND I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED IT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BEST BUDGET I'D SEEN, YOU KNOW? AND PART OF THAT WAS THE, THE ITERATIVE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORRY AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, TRYING TO, TRYING TO STAY WITH OUR PRIORITIES, OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE, TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO AS SUPERVISORS IS THIS BUDGET BECAUSE IT REFLECTS EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF POLICY. EVERYTHING WE LIKE TALKS ABOUT OUR FUTURE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE, THINGS WE WANT TO SEE. AND, AND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THE SUPERVISORS LIKE A BUNCH OF MONKEYS IN, IN A, IN A CAGE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO STUFF. BUT YOU GUIDE US. YOU HELP US, OKAY? AND, UM, AND WE REPRESENT ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE, OF, OF THE COUNTY. ALL 70, WHAT IS IT? 2000 NOW, NOWADAYS. SO, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB. IT'S NOT EASY FOR US. IT'S NOT EASY FOR YOU TO TOGETHER AS A TEAM. AND WE'RE ALL ROLLING IN THE, WE END UP ROLLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND, UH, WE HOPE WE'RE NOT ROLLING OFF A CLIFF . AND, UH, AND SO THAT'S JUMPING AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. SO YOU GUYS ARE WONDERFUL. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. YOU KNOW, YOU PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK, TAKE THE REST OF THE DAY OFF. . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AND ANOTHER THING TOO, I, I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON A 16TH MONTH FORECAST TOO, AS THIS IS JUST 12 MONTHS. WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS. WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE. YES. AND WITH SOME UNKNOWN, SUCH AS WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE STATE BUDGET, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED YET, SO THAT COULD COME BACK AND LIGHT US. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF CRYSTAL BALL THERE, AS WELL AS FACTUAL STUFF. AND, AND HOPING YOU CAN PREDICT 16 MONTHS IN THE FUTURE. I, I'M LUCKY TO GET PAST NEXT WEEK IN OFFICE STUFF. SO IT, IT'S A LOT TO IT. YEAH. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU GUYS. I'LL MOVE ON [CONSENT CALENDAR] TO, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR. WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM MARCH 17TH, MARCH 19TH, AND THEN ACCOMMODATION OF THE 25 26 YOUTH COMMISSION PROPOSED RESOLUTION. SO MOVED . UH, I HAD ONE CORRECTION THAT WAS ON MARCH 17TH MINUTES. IT WAS PAGE 6 96. OKAY. AND THE CORRECTION WAS JUST, UH, TWO WORDS ADDED. HEATHER, NO PROBLEM. YOU FIX IT. ALRIGHT, SO MOVE, ROLL CALL. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS AMENDED. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY. YES. MR. RONE. YES. MR. SHEPHERD. YES. MR. ROY? YES. MOTION CARRIED. OPEN [OPEN DISCUSSION] DISCUSSION. I'LL CALL ON EACH BOARD MEMBER IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING ELSE YOU CARE TO RAISE, SHEILA. OKAY. I, BUT YOU USUALLY CALL ME FIRST ANYWAY. LEMME FIRST. , LET ME START. UM, SATURDAY NIGHT I PARTICIPATED IN RELAY FOR LIFE. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THERE WAS 150 SURVIVORS WHO WERE THERE, PLUS THEIR FAMILIES. AND IT, IT'S ALWAYS VERY, VERY MOVING AS THEY, THEY DO THE, THE WALK AROUND THE FIELD TO SHOW THAT THEY CAN DO IT. AND THEY DO. UH, THE VICE MAYOR TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, RAISING MONEY FOR, FOR CANCER, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND HE STRESSED IT SO MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT'S BEEN DONE IN, IN RESEARCH IN MANY, MANY [00:20:01] YEARS. EACH YEAR SOMETHING COMES UP THAT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE YEAR BEFORE AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT. I TALK TO THE SURVIVORS AND BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AROUND AT THIS TABLE AND I AM AND LOOKING INTO GROUPS HERE, I AM SURE MANY OF US ARE SURVIVORS AND MANY OF US HAVE RELATIVES WHO ARE SURVIVORS. AND MANY OF US ARE WORRIED ABOUT TESTS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE HAVING. AND YOU KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE WOMEN GET THEIR MAMMOGRAMS, THAT THE MEN GET THEIR CHECKUPS. BECAUSE CANCER IS SILENT IN MANY, MANY WAYS. AND IT'S ONLY BY HAVING THESE TESTS DONE THAT THEY CAN FIND IT. I AM ETERNALLY, I AM ETERNALLY GRATEFUL THAT SOMEONE WHO I HAD MET KNOCKED, KNOCKING ON DOORS AND SAID, I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU FOR A WHILE. I SAID, OH, WELL, TELEPHONE CALLS, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T GET THROUGH AND I, I'LL DO IT. AND SHE MADE ME MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. AND I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT SHE DID, BECAUSE YES, I DID. AND NOW I'M FINE. AND THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY HERE. PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR HEALTH IS SO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. NOT ONLY TO YOU, BUT TO YOUR FAMILY. AND YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELVES AND TO YOUR FAMILIES TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND TO DO ALL THE, TAKE ALL THE TESTS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, AND FOLLOW THE REGIMEN THAT YOU'RE GIVEN, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT IT WAS VERY, VERY EMOTIONAL TO SEE ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WALKING. AND I HAVE TO SAY, WE HAD THREE FIFE AND DRUMMERS THAT WERE THERE THAT PLAYED, AND WE HAD SOME HIGH SCHOOLER, ARMY JUNIOR, RGC THAT ALSO WERE THERE. SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE OFFICIAL JUST PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND, AND ALL THE, ALL THE, THE THINGS THAT, THAT GO ON. BUT EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE RELAY FOR LIFE, WELL, I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS IN YORK COUNTY, I I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE ALMOST 30 YEARS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT. UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE, THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE PARTICIPATING ARE NOT AS HIGH AS THEY WERE WHEN THEY INITIALLY STARTED. BUT THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE THAT HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN RELAY FOR LIFE AND ARE ELIGIBLE TO DO SO, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT, IT MAKES YOU, IT GIVES YOU A SPECIAL FEELING TO TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO, WHO'VE BEEN IQ AND YOU SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING. AND I, I THINK IT'S A VERY SPECIAL THING. NOW, GET OFF THAT SUBJECT. I'VE GOT ANOTHER SUBJECT, IF I MAY, UH, TONIGHT IT ENDS AT MIDNIGHT, IS GIVE LOCAL 7 5 7. AND THERE WERE 260 NONPROFITS THAT THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION HAS PUT TOGETHER. AND THIS, THEY DO THIS EVERY YEAR. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW, I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS. THEY'VE RAISED A TON OF MONEY FOR THOSE NONPROFITS. AND SMALLER NONPROFITS DON'T GET THE EXPOSURE EXCEPT MAYBE TO THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS. BUT THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DO IT ON TELEVISION AND, AND TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF THE TRAINING THAT THEY GET. AND JUST IN THE LOWER COUNTY, I WILL NAME THE ONES THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER GETTING ONLINE TO GIVE LOCAL 7 5 7 LACKEY CLINIC, NATASHA HOUSE, YORK FOUNDATION FOR EDUCATION, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA, OLD TOWN MEDICAL CENTER, FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, FISH, CDR AND SO MANY MORE THAT YOU COULD GO ON. AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHARGE IT IF YOU WILL. YOU THIS A SMALL CHARGE TO BE ABLE TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARD, BUT IT'S MADE IT MUCH SIMPLER THAN IT WAS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED OUT. AND THEY'VE RAISED SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THEY'RE UP TO, THEY'RE UPDATED, I THINK MILLION NOW, BUT I LAST CHECKED IT. BUT JUST THINK OF ALL THE MONEY THAT'S RAISED THAT GOES TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS. AND IT'S A COMMUNITY. IT'S KEEPING IT HERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO SOMEPLACE ELSE. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BOARD DOES AND HOW WE TRY TO GIVE MONEY TO CHARITIES AND NONPROFITS TO HELP THEM ALONG, UH, EACH YEAR. BUT YOU, YOU CITIZENS WHO ARE LISTENING, AND I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING TO DO SO MUCH MORE, JUST IF EVERYBODY WERE [00:25:01] TO, TO CALL IN AND DONATE $50, IT'S OVER. IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S 1,000,079, $615 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RAISE FOR CHARITY. AND I HAVE TO ADMIT, I SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY OUT OF IT. IT'S ONE OF OUR PURPOSES IS TO HELP OTHERS HELP THEMSELVES. SO I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX. THANK YOU. WE, YEAH. UM, UH, SO I TALK TO MY FRIENDS, UH, TODAY AT Q DADDY'S AND I TALKED TO MY FRIENDS AT CHICK-FIL-A THE OTHER DAY. AND, UH, I THINK, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS, UM, WE HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING ON MAY THE 20TH FOR THE NEW CHICK-FIL-A. SO THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. UH, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT DONE. THE ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, I DID SOME PROJECTIONS. ONE, I DO KNOW PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE SALES ARE. I WON'T DISCLOSE THAT FOR Q ADDIES. AND I KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTED SALES ARE GONNA BE FOR CHICK-FIL-A. THE, THE, THE SALES TAX JUST WITH THOSE TWO RESTAURANTS WILL BRING US ABOUT 2 MILLION BUCKS A YEAR. WOW. AMAZING. SO THAT'S ALMOST 2 CENTS ON OUR TAXES. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM SINCE I GOT ON THIS BOARD THAT WE'VE GOT BRING GOOD BUSINESS TO YORK COUNTY. 'CAUSE WHEN WE DO, IT HELPS TAKE THE TAX BURDEN OFF OF THE TAXPAYERS. AND WHEN WE DON'T, WHEN WE LOSE GOOD BUSINESS, IT PUTS THE TAX BURDEN BACK ON THE TAXPAYERS. SO WE'VE GOTTA KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING TO BRING REALLY GOOD BUSINESS TO YORK COUNTY. UM, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP US ON OUR TAXES YEAR IN YEAR, YEAR OVER AND OVER. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY REALIZE HOW MUCH GOOD BUSINESS BRINGS TO YORK COUNTY TAX WISE. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. CHAIR I INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND. JUST INTRODUCE, UH, I'M SORRY, DELEGATE VIRGIL FORTON. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD TO YOU. STEP INTO THE MEETING AND JOIN US. THANK YOU. YES, ALWAYS WELCOME. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU STEVE. ALRIGHT, THANKS DOUG. UM, SO A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA SHARE WITH FOLKS. UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE MOVING INTO SEASON OF YEAR HERE IN YORK COUNTY. I WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE KIND OF HAVE IT ON THEIR MIND. THEY'RE WHERE, UH, FIRST OF ALL TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE YOU GOTTA START THINKING ABOUT STORM PREP. SO LET'S GET, LET'S GET READY, LET'S GET PREPPED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW TO THE AREA. HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN THROUGH TROPICAL STORM OR EVEN A HURRICANE AND THROUGH A FEW OF 'EM OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS. A LOT OF FUN, BUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PREPARED. SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE, UH, DOMINION ENERGY 2026 ATLANTIC HURRICANE SEASON FORECAST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 11 NAMED STORMS, TOP TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH OR STRONGER, UH, IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN DURING THIS TROPICAL SEASON. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN RIGHT OFF OUR COAST, BUT IN THE, IN THE BASIN. AND, AND THOSE STORMS CAN HIT, HIT WHEREVER. UM, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP THAT. BUT YOU CAN GET PREPARED. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH A PREP SEASON YET, UM, CONSIDER IT. UH, IF YOU GO TO DOMINION ENERGY.COM OR ON THAT FRONT PAGE AS A LINK TO STORM PREP, READ IT. FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW MUCH WATER YOU NEED PER PERSON. YOU MAY BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH WATER YOU NEED TO HAVE ON HAND. UM, FIRST AID STUFF. IF YOU GOT A GENERATOR, GREAT. MAKE SURE YOU GOT FUEL. IF YOU GO RUN IT FOR EXTENDED TIME, MAKE SURE YOU GOT WALL OIL FILTERS. SO IT KEEPS RUNNING. DON'T RUN IT INSIDE. THAT'S A BAD IDEA. UM, SO BE SMART, BE PREPARED. BE READY. UM, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO PLAN ON SOMETHING COMING, COMING OUR WAY THAT COULD NOT POWER DOWN FOR A WHILE AND KIND OF MAKE US A LITTLE BIT MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT. SECOND THING, A LITTLE HAPPIER NEWS IS THIS ALSO THE TIME OF THE SEASON WHERE THE CLASSIC CRUISERS CAR CLUB STARTS. THEIR ANNUAL CAR SHOWS HERE IN THE COUNTY. UM, THEY DO A BIG THING AT, UH, COASTAL CHURCH THERE IN, UH, KETTLE CREEK. UM, DOZENS OF CLASSIC CARS, HOT RIDES, MUSCLE CARS, WHATEVER. I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE A COUPLE TIMES. ALWAYS ENJOYED LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CARS, TALKING TO PEOPLE THEY LOVE TALKING ABOUT THEIR CARS. MAYBE ONE DAY I'LL FIND A DEAL AND I'LL, I'LL GET ONE MYSELF, BUT WE'LL SEE . UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A FUN TIME. 'CAUSE THAT GROUP, LIKE SEVERAL GROUPS IN, IN THE COUNTY. BUT THERE, THAT GROUP ALSO DOES A LOT OF CHARITY WORK. THEY WORK WITH A LOT OF GROUPS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE NATASHA HOUSE. UM, A FEW OTHERS HERE. UM, UM, THE, UM, VIRGINIA FOOD BANK AND ANIMAL AID SOCIETY, THE G***O FOUNDATION [00:30:01] AND SO FORTH. SO GOING THERE, PARTICIPATING, YOU'RE HELPING, YOU'RE HELPING LOCAL COMMUNITIES OUT. THEY ALSO WILL GO AND DO, DO LITTLE MINI CAR SHOWS AT SOME OF OUR SENIOR CENTERS AND SO FORTH, SO PEOPLE CAN CHECK THAT OUT. SO IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. IT'S A GOOD TIME. IT'S A GOOD NIGHT. WALK AROUND, LOOK AT NICE CARS. AND AGAIN, THEY, THEY'RE A BIG BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY WITH ALL THE, UH, CHARITY WORK THAT THEY DO FOR US. SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT, GET A CHANCE, SWING BY CHECK 'EM OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD. YEAH, I HAD, UH, IT'S INTERESTING. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, UH, THAT YOU MAKE ABOUT, UM, AND WE'VE RECOGNIZED THE CHARITIES AND THINGS THAT, UH, THAT PEOPLE IN AMERICA MM-HMM . PARTICIPATE IN. AND I TALK ABOUT OUR COUNTRY. UH, I'VE HAD FOLKS THAT ARE, UM, NOT ORIGINALLY FROM THE UNITED STATES. AND, UM, I REMEMBER THIS ONE LADY WHO WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT, BECAUSE SHE WAS FROM RUSSIA AND UM, AND, AND THE FIRST TIME THEY PARTICIPATED IN A CHARITY GOLF EVENT. AND SHE SAID, WE DON'T EVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN RUSSIA. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I I IT'S JUST A, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T. AND, UM, BUT IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, WE SEE THIS ALL UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY. AND IT'S REALLY, UM, IT'S HEARTWARMING TO KNOW THAT, THAT IN YOUR COUNTY, AND IN FACT ON THE PENINSULA, THE MUNICIPALITIES ALL GET TOGETHER AND, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS. UH, I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE THAT, UH, MY NEIGHBOR WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE ROTARY, UM, AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHICH ONE 'CAUSE I, THERE'S SO MANY OF 'EM, BUT THE CHAPTERS OR WHATEVER, AND IT WAS CALLED RISE AGAINST HUNGER. YES. AND, UM, THIS SECOND YEAR I PARTICIPATED IN MY FAMILY AND WE WENT DOWN THERE AND, UH, RISE AGAINST HUNGER. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY BRING IN THESE 50 POUND BAGS OF SOY, RICE, UH, FREEZE DRIED VEGETABLES THAT ARE CHOPPED UP. AND, UH, GOSH, WHAT ELSE THEY'VE GOT IN THERE? ANYWAY, THAT, UH, AND THEN, OH, THEY GOT SOME SPICE PACKAGE. YOU, YOU PUT IN IT AND, AND FOR TWO HOURS, UH, THE ROTARY, UH, SPONSORED THE RISE AGAINST HUNGER EVENT. AND WHAT WE DID IS PACK, UH, 30,000 MEALS OR WAS THAT, WELL, 30,000 PACKS MM-HMM . AND THE PACKS, UM, THAT EACH PACK ACTUALLY IS A MEAL. BUT THE WAY THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT THIS IS THAT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THERE'S OTHER, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SPONSORING THE RISE AGAINST HUNGER. AND, UM, IT WAS AMAZING THAT WHEN THEY, YOU DO THE, THE MATH ON HOW MUCH EFFECT OR HOW BIG THE EFFECT IS, THEY EXPECTED, UH, THIS YEAR TO PROVIDE 50 MILLION MEALS. WOW. 50 MILLION MEALS. NOW, THE ONES WE WERE WORKING ON, UH, THIS PACK, UH, OR THE 30,000, THEY WERE GOING TO GO TO THE PHILIPPINES. UM, THEY, IT WAS NICE THAT THEY COULD TELL US. AND THEN MM-HMM . EVERY TIME YOU GOT TO A THOUSAND, ONE OF THE KIDS COULD GO OUT THERE AND HIT THE, THE, THE BELL OR THE DONG, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. AND, AND IT, IT WAS FUN. SO, UM, SEEING THAT IT'S JUST, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN A, IN A EITHER RELAY FOR LIFE OR, YOU KNOW, MARCH FOR THIS OR MARCHED FOR THAT, GET IN, GET INVOLVED IN YMC A'S GOT A TON OF THEM, UH, BRIGHT BEGINNINGS, IT'S, UH, FIRST TEE PROGRAM. THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT A LIFETIME COMMITMENT. IT'S, IT'S GO THERE THAT DAY, PARTICIPATE. AND I MEAN, IF YOU'RE FEELING DOWN, IT'S GONNA MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. OKAY. UM, NOW ONE OTHER SUBJECT I'VE HARPED ON BEFORE AND THIS, I'M REALLY NOW GETTING REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IT. AND IT'S THESE ELECTRIC BIKES. OH, THE, UH, IT, I, I WROTE ABOUT THIS IN MY NEWSLETTER. I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE IN THE BOARD. AND I AM, I'M JUST, JUST, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GETTING PROGRESSIVELY WORSE WEEK BY WEEK. AND, UM, THE SHERIFF, THE SHERIFF TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, THAT, THAT HE WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZED. HE TOLD ME ABOUT A REPORT WHERE KIDS HAD COME ALL THE WAY FROM LAKESIDE DRIVE AND ENDED UP ON BIG BETHEL ROAD OVER AT, UH, UM, TAB, TAB ELEMENTARY. THANK YOU. I GOT BRAIN DEAD HERE FOR A MINUTE. THAT'S OKAY. AND HE WAS AMAZED THAT THEY HAD TO CROSSED 30, UH, UH, 1 34 17 TO GET THERE ON THESE, UH, ON THESE E-BIKES. NOW PARENTS, IF YOU'RE BUYING YOUR KID A, AN E-BIKE, YOU GOTTA UN REALIZE THESE THINGS CAN EASILY GO GET UP TO AROUND 28. I THINK THERE'S A LIMIT. THE SPEED LIMIT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SET AT ABOUT ABOUT 28 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH IS NOT TERRIBLY FAST. 'CAUSE IF YOU GOT A, YOU KNOW, GOT A RACING BIKE, YOU CAN GET 50, 60 MILES AN HOUR EVEN MORE. BUT YOU GOTTA TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT THE SAFETY. 'CAUSE THERE'S JUST LIKE, HEY, HERE'S A BIKE AND [00:35:01] THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO NO GUIDANCE ON, SEE IF YOU CAN RIDE IT. I MEAN, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA RIDE, LEARN TO RIDE A BIKE. THAT'S A BIG PASSAGE OF LIFE. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA GET ON A BIKE AND YOU'RE GONNA GO IN THE MIDDLE OF HEAVY TRAFFIC, YOU, YOU BETTER TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT RIDING IN, IN SINGLE FILE, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHICH WAY TO RIDE ON THE ROAD. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE A BIKE AND GET ON THE MIDDLE OF THE BIKE OR MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND BE DOING WHEELIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S A STATE LAW AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THESE THINGS. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN ENFORCED. THE BIG THING ABOUT THE BIKES, THAT IT'S NOT ALL BIKES ARE BI, ALL E-BIKES ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE, WHAT DO I SAY? BICYCLE, NOT TRADITIONAL BICYCLES. A BICYCLE THAT'S AN E-BIKE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CUTOFF. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU TAKE YOUR FOOT, YOU KEEP PEDAL, AND YOU STOP PEDALING. IT IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO DELIBERATELY SLOW DOWN. ALRIGHT? THEY'RE MODIFYING THEM NOW SO THAT THEY DON'T SLOW DOWN. YOU JUST KEEP GLIDING AND GLIDING AND GLIDING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. BUT THE BIG ONE THAT'S REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THAT IF, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE PEDALS, AND IT'S AN ELECTRIC BIKE, OKAY, IT IS A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? ELECTRIC DIRT BIKE. THAT'S HOW THEY'RE CLASSIFIED. AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED ON STATE ROADS IN VIRGINIA. THEY'RE JUST FLAT OUT NOT ALLOWED. SO I'M COMING OUTTA THE YMCA VICTORY YMCA THE OTHER DAY AND DAMN NEAR GOT RUN OVER BY A BIKE, A BIKE THAT DID NOT HAVE ANY PEDALS. AND YOU COULD HEAR IT ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM. AND I LOOKED, THE FIRST THING I DID IS, OKAY, HE HAD, HE DID HAVE A HELMET ON AND I LOOKED, BUT HE HAD NO TAG ON THE, ON THE BIKE. SO WHAT OUR SHERIFF IS DOING NOW IS PULLING THE KIDS OVER. OKAY. THAT, THAT ARE NOT, IT'S NOT JUST FOR HELMET VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THE DISTRICT COURT GETS PLUGGED UP WITH THESE, THESE, IT'S LIKE A $25 FINE. IT'S ALL IT IS AND IT'S A NUISANCE. AND IT JUST PLUGS UP THE, THE PLUGS UP THE COURT. BUT YOU GET CAUGHT DRIVING AN UNAUTHORIZED VEHICLE ON A ROAD THAT BECOMES A LITTLE WAY MORE SERIOUS. OKAY. AND SO WE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT HOW THE JUDGE IS GONNA HANDLE THESE. IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY, UM, I THINK IT'S ON BIG BETHEL ROAD WHERE THEY STOPPED. THEY, THEY TRIED TO STOP A COUPLE OF KIDS. THERE WERE LIKE THREE OF THEM, AND THEY TAKE OFF AND THEIR THEIR DIRT BIKES THROUGH THE WOODS. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO, SO NOW THE SHERIFF'S GONNA START USING THE DRONES . OKAY. OKAY. AND THEY'LL JUST CRACK YOU RIGHT TO YOUR HOUSE, AND THEN THEY'LL COME OVER AND VISIT YOU THERE. UM, PARENTS, THIS IS NOT, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS FUNNY AND RIDICULOUS AND STUFF LIKE THAT UNTIL YOUR KID GETS RUN OVER. OKAY. OR WORSE, HE RUNS OVER SOMEBODY ELSE. OKAY. OR, AND REALLY GET SERIOUSLY HURT. THIS IS THIS, I, I'M JUST ASTOUNDED BY THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY. AND BEFORE I CAME DOWN HERE TONIGHT, I JUST DID A QUICK LOOK ON, UM, ON THE, THE, UH, WEBSITE TO SEE ABOUT THESE DIRT BIKES AND SPEEDS. AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE GETTING UP TO 60 MILES AN HOUR, 60 MILES AN HOUR. AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE BEING ADVERTISED AS THIS. AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE DIRT BIKES. DIRT BIKES ARE, THE E DIRT BIKES ARE NOT ALLOWED ON, ON THE ROADS. OKAY? AND IF IT DOES COME ON THE ROAD, THEN THE PERSON'S GOTTA HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. A K ON IN YOUR, YOUR, FOR YOUR, YOUR LICENSE. FOR A BIKE LIKE THAT, YOU GOTTA HAVE A LICENSE PLATE. OKAY? YOU GOT TO HAVE INSURANCE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING. A PERSON HAS A CAR AND, AND IF YOU JUST GIVE YOUR KID THIS, IT IS LIKE GIVING 'EM A GUN AND WITHOUT ANY TRAINING. SO, SO PLE, I JUST PLEASE, I, I JUST, I CAN SEE IT COMING AND I JUST PLEASE ASK PARENTS TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE, BECAUSE IF THE COPS END UP COMING OVER TO YOUR HOUSE, THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS. AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET YOUR ATTENTION THAT WAY. BUT, UH, ZOOMING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, RUNNING OFF THE ROADS, DOING, DOING WHEELIES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, THIS IS, IS NOT COOL. SORRY, I'M GETTING ON THAT SOAPBOX. BUT , THIS IS REALLY, IT'S OKAY. IT'S A GOOD ONE TO BE ON. JUST, JUST RECENTLY I SAW THREE YOUNG GOD BOYS COME OUT OF THE MAC ON MOTORCYCLES AND WENT ACROSS 17 IN THAT TRAFFIC. THE BIKES, WAS THAT WHAT IT WAS? NO, THEY WERE MOTORCYCLES. MOTORCYCLES. THESE WERE DIRT BIKES. DIRT BIKES. THEY WERE DIRT BIKES. IT WAS THREE BOYS. I'M LIKE, THIS IS NOT GOOD. SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HURT. YEAH. AND I THINK THE WAY THE JUDGE PROBABLY NEEDS TO HANDLE IT, SOME COMMUNITY SERVICE, PUT HIM ON SOME COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE AND MAKE 'EM THINK ABOUT IT. WELL, IT WOULD, I WOULD, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD ASK THE SUPERVISORS, IF YOU'RE SEEING THIS SORT OF THING, TELL RON ABOUT IT. TELL RON MONTGOMERY, I SHERIFF MONTGOMERY, BECAUSE THEN HE WILL, YOU KNOW, THEN WE GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. AND I, AND I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS. I MEAN, I'M GETTING, I GET COMPLAINTS OUTTA RUNNING, MAN, THAT PEOPLE ON, ON, ON JUST TRADITIONAL BIKES ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN THE STATE, [00:40:01] IN THE STATE. WHEN YOU ARE ON A PATH THAT MAY SAY BIKE OR HAVE A SIGN OF A BIKE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT BIKE HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY. NO. A PERSON ON THE, ON THE, THE PERSON HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THE PATH, OKAY? HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY. WALKING, RUNNING, WHATEVER. AND A BIKE RESPONSIBILITY BY LAW, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM SOME WAY. SHOUT, TELL 'EM YOU COME AND LEFT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BRING A BELL OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BIKE RIDER. PEOPLE THAT REALLY, REALLY KNOW, KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON BIKES WILL KNOW TO DO THIS. AND I'VE SEEN THIS UP IN HERNDON, UH, WHEN I WAS ON A TRAIL THERE AND I KEPT HEARING THESE PEOPLE COME BACK ON YOUR LEFT, ON YOUR LEFT, YOU KNOW, AND AS THEY'RE COMING AROUND AND YOU BY LAW, SEE, WE SEE THE KILL CREEK. YEAH. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LAWS FOR THIS AND THEN, AND, AND, AND THE, THEY'RE THERE FOR A GOOD REASON. OKAY. TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. ALRIGHT, QUICK RULE OF THUMB, JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HARD TIME IDENTIFYING, WATCH, WHAT IF IT HAS PEDALS? IT'S PROBABLY CONSIDER OFFICIALLY BY THE STATE CODE VIRGINIA, AN E-BIKE, WHICH MEANS IT HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS ANY OTHER BIKE. IF YOU DON'T SEE PEDALS, THEN IT'S PROBABLY AN OFF-ROAD TYPE VEHICLE THAT PROBABLY ISN'T REGISTERED TO BE OPERATED ON, ON PUBLIC HIGHWAY. SO, SO WHEN YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. BUT I NEVER, NEIGHBOR'S SON ON THE WEEKEND, UH, WAS PULLING WHEELIES ON HIS E-BIKE AND, UH, THE FRONT WHEEL CAME OFF AND HE DROVE THE FORKS INTO THE GROUND AND OF COURSE, SOMERSAULTED OFF OF IT. BROKEN JAW, BROKEN TEETH, COMPLETELY FLATTENED NOSE. HE, HE SPENT MOST OF THE WEEKEND IN SURGERY. UM, IT, IT'S VERY SERIOUS. I MEAN, HAD THAT BEEN, YOU KNOW, CONCUSSION OR, OR A, OR, OR A HIP? THE SKULL, INSTEAD OF HIS, YOU WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, DO YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A HELMET? HE HAD A HELMET ON OPEN FACE AND OPEN FACE BRAIN BOOKING. I HAD, UH, TWO ITEMS, UM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T REALIZE IT, MAY 15TH COMING UP, 8:00 AM WE'VE GOT THE TODAY SHOW AND YES, CW AND THEN, UM, UH, BOOTS AND BRUISE WAS MOVED TO THE 17TH. UH, SO THAT'S, UH, BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THAT'S SUNDAY. I THINK THE 17TH AND ONE OTHER ONE. UM, I'M, I'M HAVING MORE AND MORE ISSUES AGAIN WITH TRAILER PARKS AND ORDINANCES. OKAY. AND BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, AND BEING MAINTAINED. UM, I, I'D, I'D LIKE THE COUNTY TO GO THROUGH OUR ORDINANCES FOR TRAILER PARKS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T CLEAN THAT UP AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE IN THAT AREA WITH BOARD, WITH THE BOARD'S PERMISSION, ANYTHING SPECIFIC. YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HEARING, YOU'RE, UM, WORKING ON LOOKING AT BEING, BEING BUILT ILLEGALLY AND, UH, OCCUPIED MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND NO DRAINAGE, NO SEWER. OOH, REALLY? UHHUH . WELL, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME CODES ON THAT ALREADY. YEAH. SO THERE'S SOME ISSUES RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THANK YOU. CAN I ADD ONE THING TO YOUR, TO THIS? UM, SOME OF YOU I'VE TALKED TO BEFORE, AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO, UH, MARK ABOUT THIS. IT, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT WAS, WHAT WE CAN CLASSIFY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY BILLS AFFORD THINGS, THEY CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN YOUR COUNTY. IT BECOMES UNAFFORDABLE. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT DEALS WITH SIZE, YOU KNOW, TRAILER PARKS FOR ONE THING, OR, UM, THEY'VE KIND OF GOT A BAD REPUTATION AND, UM, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED BY LAW TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TELL 'EM TO GO AWAY. I, I DON'T, AND I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE THAT BECAUSE AS AN ALTERNATIVE FORM, I LIVED IN A TRAILER WHEN I FIRST GOT MARRIED AND, AND DOWN IN FLORIDA. UM, SO, UH, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN, UM, IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT THINK ABOUT HOW PLACEMENT OF CERTAIN HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, TINY HOUSES OKAY. IN TRAILER PARKS THERE KIND OF THERE CAN, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF IT BEING A TRAILER PARK, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO PUT A TINY HOUSE IN THERE. UM, THEY'RE KIND OF, THEY KIND OF LOOK NEAT. THEY'RE NOT JUNKED UP AND THEY HAVE THE SAME, THEY HAVE REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT'S A, THAT TO ME IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A TINY HOUSE, BUT IT IS SOME ALTERNATIVE, SOME THINKING. WE NEED TO THINK THAT WAY. IF WE DON'T, I'M AFRAID THE STATE'S GONNA COME DOWN EVENTUALLY HERE, MAKE US AND MAKE US DO THIS. AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE US DO IT IN PLACES WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. OKAY. WELL, AND I REALLY LIKE THE, THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS AROUND THE TINY HOMES. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR MANY FOLKS STARTING OUT, EVEN DOWNSIZING. MM-HMM . UM, AND, AND WE, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO BUILD SOME GUARDRAILS UP AROUND THAT SO THAT WE CAN OFFER PLACES FOR THAT SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND, UM, AND IT, IF I, I KIND OF WISH WE COULD GET AWAY FROM THAT MISNOMER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 'CAUSE IT REALLY, THERE'S NO SUCH THING MM-HMM [00:45:01] . SOMEBODY PAYS FOR IT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TINY HOME, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOMEBODY. ALSO ACCESSORY, ACCESSORY HOMES, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . LITTLE SMALL HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR IN-LAWS OR WHOEVER TO, TO, TO LIVE THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW, WE DO ALLOW THEM OF THE GARAGES. REMEMBER WE RAN INTO THAT A LOT AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING THAT WE DID BETTER. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE IN A LONG TIME. WELL, IT GOT TO BE, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED GETTING INTO THESE ACCESSORY APARTMENTS AND STUFF, LIKE, OH MY GOSH. I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A KNEE JERK REACTION. NOT ONLY BY THE SUPERVISORS, BUT BY THE COMMUNITIES. I MEAN, THERE'D BE WHOLE COMMUNITIES WOULD GO GET UP IN ARMS OR WHOLE STREET WOULD GET UP IN ARMS OVER SOMEBODY PUTTING A, AN ACCESSORY APARTMENT TO THEIR HOUSE. AND SO THEN THEY HAD TO COME FOR US. AND THEN WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, I MEAN, WE WERE JUST HAVING ONE AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER. IT BECAME LIKE TOURIST HOMES WITH US FOR A WHILE. SO, UM, BUT IT WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH, NO. AND SO YOU DIDN'T WANNA BE INVOLVED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT WORSE. I THINK IT'S WORSE OUT, BUT, UH, THE, UH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN THE PLANNING OF THESE THINGS. LIKE, UH, I, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT SEE A CONCENTRATION TO A POINT WHERE IT BECOMES A SLUM. MM-HMM . OKAY. UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU, WE GOT IT. YOU CAN DO THESE IN A MANNER THAT I THINK IS, UH, IS, UH, I'VE SEEN IT IN FLORIDA WHERE THEY'RE NOT IN SOME PLACES, EVEN IN ARIZONA, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF NEED LOOKING. AND, AND I THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT PLACES I'VE SEEN UP AND DOWN THE PENINSULA THO THOSE SAME TYPE OF TINY HOMES ON LITTLE INLETS AND CREEKS. MM-HMM . LITTLE, LITTLE, LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, LITTLE TINY HOME. AND THEY, THEY USE THEM MORE FOR WEEKEND TYPE STUFF. BUT THAT SAME CONCEPT CAN BE MADE TO LOOK VERY NEAT FOR, PROVIDE HOUSING FOR SOMEBODY. WE, WE JUST NEED TO BE SMARTER BY SETTING UP THE RIGHT GUARDRAILS AND THE DISHES FOR IT. I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, US AROUND THE BOARD, WE KNOW YORK COUNTY, WE KNOW HOW TO MAN MANAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, LAND THE, THE BEST. 'CAUSE WE'RE RIGHT HERE. WE, WE LIVE IT RIGHT HERE. SO I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN, BUT WHAT WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OF THE UTILITIES, THE SO WATER AND SEWER AND ACCESS TO THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN IT, RIGHT. IT'S THE WHOLE, YEAH. THAT'S PART OF THE, THAT'S ALL PART OF PARCEL. NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE OVERCOME. WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT. WELL, THERE WAS A WHILE HERE. UM, I WAS STUNNED TO FIND OUT THAT, UH, UM, BEFORE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT, UH, PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN TENTS. OKAY. BACK IN THE WOODS AND NOT FAR FROM TAB HIGH SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE. THERE WAS A BIG, BIG GROUP DOWN IN THERE, HUGE GROUP. AND THEN DOWN ON MANCHIN ROAD, THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT WERE LIVING BACK IN A TENT BACK IN THERE AND PEOPLE WERE BRINGING 'EM, FOOD AND WHATEVER. AND THEN WE HAD SOME DOWN THERE NEAR ONE OF THE CHURCHES, KIDS, UH, GET THROWN OUTTA THEIR HOUSE AND THEY'RE LIVING IN A CAR. OKAY. AND, UM, SO THERE'S AN ELEMENT THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF, KIND OF HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE. AND I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US KIND OF DO SOMETHING, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT NOW BEFORE IT'S TAKEN AWAY FROM US AND FORCED DOWN OUR THROAT BEFORE THE FACT INSTEAD OF AFTER THE FACT. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT. I WILL CLOSE THE OPEN DISCUSSION. OH, OKAY. WE'RE BRINGING THIS UP HERE. I THINK, UH, I THINK WE'RE MOVING ON TO ADJOURNMENT. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM ON TUESDAY, MAY 19TH, IN THE BOARDROOM OF YOUR CALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.