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          [Call to Order]
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I WILL CALL THE MARCH 3RD, UH, 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING TO ORDER. 
          WELCOME, PLEASE. 
          MR. ROY? YES, MR. DO? HERE. 
          MR. PRESENT. 
          MR. BROWN. 
          HERE. 
          MR. SHEPHERD? ALWAYS HERE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUO. 
          OKAY. 
          [1 Colonial Behavioral Health Update. Presentation by David Coe, Executive Director.]
WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE'RE STARTING WITH COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 
          WE'LL CALL ON DAVID COHEN. 
          MR. FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE A HAND OVER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. 
          DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I, I DO. 
          AM I YOU'LL PROBABLY, YOU DIDN'T NEED TO SIT RIGHT HERE. 
          I'M GONNA COME ON IN THE WATER'S WARM. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          THAT'S THE HOT SEAT. 
          THAT'S THE HOT SEAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SHE'S GOT IT MINIMIZED AT THE BOTTOM. 
          YES. 
          UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE TOO ON THE LEFT. 
          MUST BE THAT ONE. 
          MINE IS DEFINITELY NOT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GO. 
          JUST TESTS MY EYES. 
          YEP. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WIN. 
          GOT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ONE AND A HALF TIMES. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. 
          PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH YORK COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME, AND, UH, BUT IT HAS BEEN SINCE WE MADE A PRESENTATION TO ANY OF OUR LOCALITIES. 
          IT HAS BEEN LOOKING AT OUR RECORDS BACK BEFORE COVID. 
          SO IT'S BEEN YEARS NOW, UM, SINCE ANY OF THAT HAS OCCURRED. 
          AND A FEW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, UH, EVERYWHERE DURING, DURING THAT TIME. 
          A LOT OF THINGS HAVE REMAINED THE SAME, HOWEVER. 
          SO, JUST TO GIVE A, A QUICK OVERVIEW. 
          I KNOW, UH, EACH OF YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY, BUT JUST FOR THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE WITH US IN THE, UH, IN THE GALLERY, IN THE, AMONG THE PUBLIC, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1971. 
          UH, WE WERE FORMED JANUARY 5TH, 1971. 
          UM, MY SAYING ON THIS ROUND IS THAT THIS MAKES US NOW 55 YEARS OLD AND WE QUALIFY NOW FOR THE SENIOR DISCOUNT AT IO. 
          SO, UM, IT'S GONE OVER. 
          GOOD POINT ABOUT THAT. 
          WELL, EVERYWHERE SO FAR. 
          SO I, THIS, FORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'LL HAVE TO SAY IT. 
          UM, WE ARE, WE ARE STATUTORY AGENCY CREATED IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. 
          UM, THE STATUTES WERE IN 1968. 
          UM, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, YORK COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG WENT IN TOGETHER IN 71 TO CREATE COLONIAL, UH, IN 72 KOSIN. 
          UM, UH, THEY WERE MAKING A DECISION BETWEEN US AND THE HAMPTON NEWPORT NEWS AREA, AND THEY, EVIDENTLY THEY SELECTED US. 
          UM, DURING THAT TIME. 
          WE ARE NOT ONLY A STATUTORY AGENCY CREATED IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, BUT WE ARE ALSO A FIVE, UH, UNINCORPORATED 5 0 1 C3. 
          SO WE, WE WALK AROUND WITH A FOOT IN PUBLIC PRIVATE, ALL WE'RE REFERRED TO BY MANY AS A QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL. 
          YOU GET MANY CONFUSIONS TOO. 
          ? NOT MUCH. 
          NOT, NOT, NOT MUCH. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MAINLY, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT SORT OF A TAX EXEMPT PURPOSE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF, UH, SPECIFIC. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE, THERE ARE A FEW GRANTS OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT IF YOU ARE PURELY A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT ELIGIBLE FOR, SOME FUNDERS WON'T DO THAT. 
          SO BEING A 5 0 1 C3 HAS OPENED UP THE DOORS TO A FEW, TO A FEW FUNDING. 
          OKAY. 
          OPPORTUNITIES. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          UM, OUR, OUR 15 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, THE LARGEST CONTINGENT IS YORK COUNTY, UH, YORK COUNTY, APPOINTING SIX OF THOSE MEMBERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THREE OF THOSE MEMBERS ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT. 
          UH, MR. KEENER, OUR VICE CHAIR, UH, MS. RICHIE, OUR SECRETARY, AND THEN MS. THOMAS. 
          UM, UH, AND, UH, ALL SIX, ALL SIX OF YOUR, UH, APPOINTEES ARE VALUABLE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD AND WE, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR SUPPORT. 
          YOU ARE, I'M SURE, FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, YOUR COUNTY SERVES AS OUR FISCAL AGENT. 
          YOU'VE BEEN OUR FISCAL AGENT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. 
          UH, MUCH LONGER. 
          I'VE BEEN AT COLONIAL FOR 22 YEARS THIS MONTH. 
          AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING PROBABLY AT LEAST TWICE THAT LONG, IF NOT THE FULL 55 YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN OUR PHYSICAL AGENT. 
          WE ALSO SIGNED, UH, WITH YOU THE, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE AGREEMENT AROUND THE COST SHARING THIS YEAR. 
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AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM A GREAT DEAL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS BEEN WHEN, WHEN THE COUNTY IMPLEMENTED MUNI MM-HMM . 
          UM, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF MUNIS, UM, FREE. 
          FRANKLY, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS THING FOR US. 
          UP TO THAT POINT. 
          WE WERE DOING ALL OF OUR BUDGETS ON SPREADSHEETS ABOUT THREE FEET LONG, UM, AND THEY WERE GETTING UNMANAGEABLE. 
          SO UNI REALLY HELPED US A LOT THERE. 
          OUR VEHICLES, WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S 43 VEHICLES THAT WE, THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE. 
          THEY ARE MAINTAINED BY THE YORK COUNTY'S GARAGE. 
          WE DO PAY FOR THAT. 
          UM, THE SAME CHARGE THAT YOU WOULD MAKE TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE CHARGED CBH. 
          AND THOSE ARE DONE, I BELIEVE, THROUGH INTERNAL, INTERNAL FUND TRANSFERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT IS OUR CURRENT SITUATION. 
          UM, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, UM, WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO FINANCE DIRECTORS IN THE LAST 40 YEARS, AND THE SECOND ONE, UH, RETIRED AT THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SINCE THAT TIME, UH, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, GOING INTO BUDGET SEASON AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITHOUT A FINANCE DIRECTOR, WHICH MAKES FOR ELEVATED BLOOD PRESSURE AND OTHER, OTHER, YOU CAN'T FIND ANYONE TO HIRE OR, WE, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S BEGINNING WITH US MARCH 16TH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE MONTH TURNAROUND. 
          IT JUST FELT LIKE A LOT LONGER THAN THAT, UM, DURING THAT TIME. 
          BUT, UM, MS. GOODWIN HAS BEEN A PART OF OUR INTERVIEW PANEL. 
          SHE'S BEEN A PART OF THE SEARCH PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS, EVEN BEFORE DECEMBER, UH, WHEN WE WERE IN THE FIRST ROUND. 
          UH, WE HAVE HAD OTHERS COME AND GO FROM INTERVIEW PANELS. 
          SHE HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT AND WE ARE, UH, EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. 
          ALSO DURING, DURING THIS TIME WHEN OUR FINANCE STAFF ARE HAVING TO STEP UP AND TAKE ON ADDITIONAL ROLES. 
          YOUR FINANCE, YOUR FINANCE TEAM HERE, UH, UH, YOUR TREASURER'S OFFICE, FINANCE OFFICE HAVE STEPPED UP AND BEEN A TREMENDOUS SUPPORT TO OUR TEAM AS THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT A BUDGET, DO THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, SO WE CANNOT BE MORE GRATEFUL TO YOUR COUNTY FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US. 
          UM, AND, UH, YEAH. 
          UH, NE NEVER THOUGHT, NEVER THOUGHT ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          I HOPED IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT DID. 
          BUT, UH, THE COUNTY'S BEEN OUR SAFETY NET ON THIS, SO LEMME JUST MAKE SURE WE, WE SAY THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, AND WHAT WE TEND TO WORK WITH, WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL FUNDING REQUESTS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, WE, WE USE A COMBINATION OF UTILIZATION AND POPULATION, AND IT'S ACROSS A ROLLING FIVE YEAR PERIOD. 
          WE DO A ROLLING FIVE YEAR PERIOD BECAUSE IT SMOOTHS OUT THE BUMPS. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE FOR YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS SERVED, YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER HAS GONE UP AND DOWN MM-HMM . 
          AS SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF A ROLLER COASTER SORT OF THING OVER THESE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL FROM OUR FOUR JURISDICTIONS OF HOW MUCH, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MM-HMM . 
          WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR, UH, SERVICES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS. 
          SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH, UM, LIKE THE OPERATING REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DEAL WITH EVERY YEAR WHEN WE HAVE AN AMOUNT THAT WE ASK FOR FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT WE TEND TO DO IS WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT FIVE YEAR AVERAGE AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR THAT, THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT OF WHATEVER IT IS WE NEED. 
          AND EVERY LOCAL IS DIFFERENT, OF COURSE, JAMES CITY COUNTY, OF COURSE, HAS THE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER SHARE THAN, THAN THE OTHERS. 
          OUR REVENUE SOURCES, UH, COME FROM A NUMBER OF PLACES, BUT YOU'LL SEE PRIMARILY THAT ABOUT HALF OF OUR MONEY COMES FROM THE STATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE FEDERAL MONEY WE RECEIVE IS ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE. 
          SO JUST TO JUST TOUCH OVER 50, 50% BEING STATE ADMINISTERED, UH, LOCAL FUNDS MAKING UP 18%, UH, SMALL AMOUNT OF, OF GRANTS AND FEES COMING OUT TO JUST, JUST OVER A QUARTER IN MY BUDGET. 
          WHERE DO YOUR GRANTS COME FROM? PRIMARILY FROM THE WILLIAMSBURG HEALTH FOUNDATION. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL PIECES. 
          OKAY. 
          SMALL. 
          BUT DO YOU SOLICIT GRANTS OR DO YOU JUST HOPEFULLY THEY COME THROUGH. 
          WE, WE ACTUALLY WRITE THE GRANTS. 
          WE SOLICIT SOLICIT GRANTS. 
          YES. 
          WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE STAFF PERSON THAT, UM, HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFF, PEOPLE THAT CAN WRITE GRANTS, MYSELF INCLUDED. 
          BUT I HAVE A REALLY, ONE WALL . 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STAFF THAT DO MOST OF OUR GRANT WRITING FOR US. 
          AND WHO DO YOU WRITE STAFF TOO? 
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I MEAN, WRITE REQUESTS TOO, BESIDES LOUISBURG. 
          THERE'S A SMALL GROUP CALLED THE COVAR. 
          IT'S A COVAR GROUP. 
          IT'S A SMALL, LIKE A KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS PIECE. 
          THEY DO SOME SMALL MM-HMM . 
          MINI, UM, MINI GRANTS THAT THEY MIGHT HELP, UH, IN MANY CASES PROVIDE MATCH. 
          THAT ACTUALLY COVERS, WE'LL DO, YOU KNOW, GRANTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF RAIL AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WE'LL DO THAT. 
          IT'S FEDERAL DOLLARS. 
          THERE'S A MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR THAT. 
          WE, WE DO A, A VEHICLE DURING THE YEAR MM-HMM . 
          UH, USUALLY A LOT OF TIMES THE COVAR FUNDS PROVIDE THE MATCH FOR THAT. 
          SO THE VEHICLE ACTUALLY COMES TO US PRETTY MUCH FOR FREE. 
          AND WE HAVE USED IT, UH, LITTLE SMALL, SMALL AMOUNTS LIKE THAT. 
          DAVID, WHAT'S THE TOTAL? I DON'T SEE IT MENTIONED ANYWHERE. 
          OH, THE TOTAL, OUR TOTAL BUDGET THIS YEAR IS ABOUT 25.6 MILLION, BUT THE POINT MIGHT BE ONE OFF OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S 20. 
          IT'S JUST NORTH OF 25 AND A HALF THIS YEAR. 
          YOU, AND YOU SAY 48% OF THAT WAS BE FROM THE STATE? YES. 
          NOW, 48% OF THAT IS FROM THE STATE. 
          UM, THREE FROM THE FEDS. 
          SO OUR, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CARRY A STATUTORY MATCH REQUIREMENT FOR OUR FUNDING. 
          BUT OUR LOCALITIES HAVE ALWAYS EXCEEDED THAT, AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEDAY THE STATE BLOWS UP AND GIVES US A TON OF MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT. 
          WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT. 
          UM, I, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE SERVICES. 
          UM, THE SERVICES THAT ARE ON YOUR SCREEN IN BLUE ARE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING FOR, FOR MANY YEARS. 
          THE ONES IN RED ARE THESE THAT ARE MORE RECENTLY, UH, ADDED BY, BY COLONIAL MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE DID START PICKING UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO NOW, MOBILE CRISIS SERVICES, WHICH IS NOT JUST YOUR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY, TO THE, UH, EMERGENCY ROOM, THOSE SORT OF THINGS. 
          BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, IT CAN RESPOND TO A HOME, IT CAN RESPOND TO A SCHOOL THAT CAN RESPOND WHERE THE CRISIS IS TAKING PLACE. 
          AND THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO INTERVENE WITH A, A SITUATION BEFORE A PERSON GETS INTO ACTUAL CRISIS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THAT WE, WE AVOID THOSE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, POLICE CARDS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS AND WHO GOES OUT TO THAT. 
          UH, WE HAVE STAFF, MASTERS LEVEL STAFF OR LICENSED STAFF THAT WILL RESPOND TO THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          THAT IS A DISPATCH BASED SERVICE, UH, IS NOT ONE THAT, UM, THE WAY THE SERVICE IS SET UP STATEWIDE, IT'S NOT ONE THAT PEOPLE JUST CALL COLONIAL. 
          IF SOMEBODY CALLS US TO COME OUT YES. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET DISPATCHED. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO DISPATCH. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE COMMUNITY IS STILL FIGURING OUT HOW TO USE THAT . 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE NEEDED SOMETHING FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEN YOU GET IT. 
          IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NOW HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THE IDEA OF HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE LEARN MM-HMM . 
          WHEN TO USE IT, NOT TO USE IT, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          THE UTILIZATION IS GOING UP. 
          IT'S STARTED REALLY, REALLY SLOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT FULLY UTILIZED. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN CAN YOU, CAN YOU SHARE LIKE A, A REAL WORLD BOOTS ON THE GROUND EXAMPLE OF SER ONE OF THESE SERVICES THAT, THAT YOU'VE, WHERE YOU'VE HELPED OUT YOUR COUNTY RESIDENT WITH, NOT NAMING NAMES, BUT JUST LIKE, SO PEOPLE KIND OF WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND WHAT THESE SERVICES MEAN IN, IN THE, IN THE REAL WORLD. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN GIVE YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, I COULD NOT REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHERE THEY LIVE. 
          NO. 
          UM, UM, DON'T, DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS, UH, FAMILIES WHO REACH OUT TO US. 
          I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES. 
          FAMILIES THAT, THAT REACH OUT TO US BECAUSE THEY HAVE A, A CHILD WHO THEY'RE HAVING EXTREME ISSUES WITH AT HOME, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CHALLENGES. 
          UM, MAYBE IT'S SUBSTANCE USE. 
          MAYBE THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME, SOME PHYSICAL ABUSE GOING ON AT HOME. 
          UM, AND OLDER SIBLING, UH, MEETING UP ON AND BEING VIOLENT TOWARD PARENTS OR A YOUNGER SIBLING OR THAT SORT OF THING. 
          WE GET INVOLVED IN THOSE CASES REGULARLY. 
          OFTENTIMES THOSE SITUATIONS DO END UP INVOLVING SOCIAL SERVICES. 
          'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MANDATED REPORTERS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS WHEN, WHEN THAT SORT OF THING OCCURS. 
          BUT, BUT OFTEN WHEN IT'S WORKING THE WAY WE HOPE IT WILL WORK, WE GET CALLED BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT. 
          AND WE'RE ABLE TO INTERVENE, BEGIN PROVIDING SOME COUNSELING SERVICES. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S MEDICATION, SOMETIMES IT'S FAMILY CARE. 
          ANY NUMBER OF, NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT EVERY SITUATION IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          ANOTHER SITUATION THAT'S DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT IS WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE SERVICES. 
          WE HAVE TWO 
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FOUR BED GROUP HOMES FOR ADULTS FOR, WITH, WITH IDD. 
          UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN OR IN YOUR COUNTY. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY. 
          THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AT THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, THERE AND THERE. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING 24 7 CARE WE PROVIDE. 
          WE ARE THEIR HOME. 
          WE ARE NOT THEIR FAMILY, BUT WE, WE ARE THEIR HOME AND THEIR, THEIR 24 7 CAREGIVERS. 
          WE ALSO OPERATE A DAY SERVICES PROGRAM THERE ON MERRIMACK TRAIL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHERE WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, DAY SERVICES, LIFE SKILL TRAINING SERVICES. 
          EVEN THEY WILL GO OUT AND DO VOLUNTEER WORK AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY OR DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING MEANINGFUL ACTIVITY AND GROUP ACTIVITY AND SOCIALIZATION AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. 
          IT'S A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THOSE ARE GOOD EXAMPLES. 
          'CAUSE THERE COULD BE PEOPLE LISTENING RIGHT NOW WHO ARE IN THE SITUATIONS AS YOU DESCRIBED, AND NOT REALIZE THAT YOUR TEAM OFFERS A RELIEF VALVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TO THAT. 
          AND YOU MAY AND MAY SOLICIT A PHONE CALL THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE OTHERWISE GOTTEN. 
          AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THERE'S A OPTION HERE FOR HELP. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO. 
          I HOPE SO. 
          YEAH. 
          I HOPE SO. 
          SO IF SOME SOMEONE'S LISTENING AND THEY MAKE THAT PHONE CALL, MAKE THAT PHONE CALL. 
          YOU'RE THERE TO HELP. 
          SO 2 2 0 3200. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANKS. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL KEEP US MOVING. 
          I, I REFERENCED A COUPLE OF THESE SERVICES ALREADY UP HERE. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF LARGE CONTRACTS THAT WE CONTRACT OUT. 
          WHAT DOES DD STAND FOR? DD IS DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND MH WILL BE MENTAL HEALTH. 
          UH, YOU ALL KNOW CDR AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES AND THE OTHER ACRONYM THERE, THE, THE REGIONAL JAIL, UH, VPRJ. 
          UH, OUR, WE DO CONTRACT. 
          UM, THE, THE FUNDING FOR PART C SERVICES, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR AREA COMES TO COLONIAL. 
          WE CONTRACT THOSE DIRECTLY WITH CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES. 
          AND THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ARRANGEMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR CON 50 YEARS AS WELL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. 
          UM, ONE THAT WE WOULDN'T DREAM OF MESSING WITH. 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE AMONG THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE, THAT HAVE HAD TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT, OR NOT IMPLEMENT, BUT SUBMIT A MARCUS ALERT PLAN, WHICH IS A MARCUS ALERT IS A CO RESPONSE MODEL OR MENTAL HEALTH AND, AND, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          THAT THERE'S PROTOCOLS INVOLVED AROUND WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THE ONE WHO MUST GO. 
          SOMETIMES MAYBE MENTAL HEALTH IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PREFERRED RESPONDER. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S A, OFTEN IT'S GONNA BE A JOINT RESPONSE. 
          BUT THERE'S PROTOCOLS STATEWIDE FOR THAT. 
          IT'S BASED UPON STATE LEGISLATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, UH, TWO OF OUR LOCALITIES ARE NOT MANDATED TO DO THAT. 
          'CAUSE THEY HAVE POPULATIONS UNDER 40,000. 
          YORK AND, AND JAMES CITY, UH, ARE IN THAT. 
          I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN? WHAT? TWO? UH, KOSIN AND WILLIAMSBURG ARE NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE SMALLER POPULATION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO THE WILLIAMSBURG HOUSE OF MERCY LOST, UM, LOST THEIR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THE STATE PROVIDED US WITH WAS SOME FUNDING TO PICK UP SOME OF THE, UM, SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS THAT WOULD'VE QUALIFIED FOR OUR, OUR SUPPORT THERE. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE DRUG PREVENTION COALITION. 
          WE WERE ONE OF THE FOUNDING GROUPS FOR THAT. 
          WE ARE NOT THE FOUNDING GROUP, UH, FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CORE AGENCIES THERE. 
          A LOT OF EFFORTS THROUGH THAT, THAT I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO MANY, MANY, UM, MANY EVENTS FOR. 
          AND THEN JUST RECENTLY, UM, A TRAUMA SENSITIVE SCHOOLS CONFERENCE. 
          UH, WE WERE LOOKING AND INVITING, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT WE WORK WITH AROUND, UM, UH, YORK COUNTY WAS THE ONLY ONE THEY'RE SENDING TO, TO THAT. 
          WE, WE GOT THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT SCHOOL PERSONNEL TO, TO ATTEND THAT CONFERENCE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY GLAD THAT SOMEONE IN OUR AREA CHOSE TO DO THAT. 
          AND IT'S YOUR COUNTY. 
          SO WITH THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE DRUG PREVENTION COALITION, YOU ALL HAVE GOTTEN THIS UPDATE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M SURE. 
          SO I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT SINCE 2020, THE, THE COALITION HAS WORKED WITH OUR LOCALITIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT TO, UH, WELL, THE DRUG TAKE BACK CASE, UH, THE COALITION'S ROLE IN THAT IS TO DISSEMINATE BAGS. 
          I, I WOULD, I WAS PLEASED WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE, THE REFERENCE THAT, UH, YORK COUNTY IS FAR AND AWAY COLLECTED MORE DISCARDED MEDICATIONS AND RETURNED THOSE 
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SAFELY THAN ANY O OTHER LOCALITIES THAT WE SERVE. 
          UM, SOME LOCALITIES HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED EVERY YEAR, BUT ONLY HAS IT HAS RETURN TO WHOM, UH, RETURN TO SAFE DISPOSAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU LIKE PIZZA AND YOU'VE BEEN TO JOIN ME'S OR ANDREA'S, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE BOXES IN, UH, IN, IN MAY AND IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UH, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN IN, IN SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS WE'VE WORKED WITH IN DIFFERENT LOCALITIES. 
          WE KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN AS MANY AS SEVEN AND 8,000 OF THESE BOXES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN OUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WITH THE 9, 8, 8 CRISIS LINE INFORMATION SHARED THERE, OUR INFORMATION. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE LOCK AND TALK, LOCK AND TALK PROGRAM IS AROUND GUN SAFETY IN THE HOMES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AROUND, IT'S AROUND THOSE. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAM? I'M SORRY? AND YOU HAVE A SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAM? UH, WE LIKE TO THINK THAT HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WE DO IS A SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAM. 
          BUT, BUT WE, AS FAR AS A SPECIFIC SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING LABELED THAT. 
          WELL, PEOPLE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CALL IN, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN CRISIS. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE A CRISIS THAT THOSE, THOSE ARE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          THE MOBILE CRISIS SERVICES WE MENTIONED, UM, AND I'LL NINE EIGHT AND 9 8 80 IS THE NATIONAL, THAT'S A NATIONAL, THAT SUICIDE PREVENTION, THAT'S I ASK IS A 9 88. 
          SO WHY WOULD I CALL NINE 80? IT'S NATIONAL VIRGINIA, BUT I HAVE A BETTER REASON THAN THAT. 
          WELL, IT IS CRISIS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S SUICIDE, IT'S COMBINATION. 
          I'VE GOT SOMEBODY WITH A DRUG OVERDOSE THAT CALL THEM. 
          I CALL THE COPS, YOU KNOW, THE MEDICS OR THE MEDICS? MEDICS. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE YOUR FIRST CALL. 
          WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OKAY. 
          SO MY MY POINT IN THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE, WHEN, UH, MR. RON OVER THERE ASKED YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU DO, UM, THAT'S STILL A KIND OF A BIG CLOUDY AREA. 
          YOU'RE LIKENED A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I KNOW SPEC, BUT SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN, YOU GOT 20, WHAT, $22 MILLION. 
          AND, AND SO WHAT DO YOU SPENDING $22 MILLION ON IN THE SERVICE TO NOT ONLY US, BUT TO EVERYBODY ELSE? WHAT, 45.66? 25.6? I DON'T COVER A MILLION HERE. 
          MILLIONAIRE. 
          YOU KNOW, . 
          SO, I MEAN, SO MY, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY KIND OF SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DEALING, AT LEAST MOST OF THE BOARDS NOT DEALING VERY, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH YOU ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE DECADES WE'VE HEARD OF COLONIAL, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . 
          BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT YOU DO IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT JUST HAVE BIG CLOUDY, BIG CLOUDY AREA UP HERE CALLED, UH, YOU KNOW, COLONIAL HEALTH. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT SUICIDE PREVENTION. 
          DRUG PREVENTION, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DO AN INTER, INTER, UM, INTERACTION WITH, UH, MAYBE PARENTS WITH A KID. 
          DO THEY CALL THE KIDS CALL? DO THE COPS CALL YOU WHO CALLS THE KID THE PARENTS WHO CALLS YOU TO GET HELP? OR, OR ARE YOU ACTUALLY THAT POINT WHERE YOU END UP WITH JUST SOMEBODY ELSE IS DEALING WITH IT ON A, UM, ON A SOCIAL SERVICES BASIS, THEN YOU GET REFERRED TO FOR SOMETHING ELSE? SO, RELATED TO IT, WE GET CALLED BY EVERYBODY. 
          WE, WE'LL HAVE FAMILIES CALL, WE'LL HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS CALL. 
          WE'LL HAVE PROBATION AND PAROLE CALL. 
          WE'LL HAVE THE JAIL WHEN SOMEONE'S BEING DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL, SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, WE HAVE, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES CALL. 
          WE MIGHT HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CALL. 
          WE WILL HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS CALL NEIGHBORS. 
          CALL, SCHOOLS CALL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, LOOK, LOOK, IT CALLS. 
          HERE'S, HERE'S, OKAY. 
          MOST PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WHEN IN SOME SORT OF CRISIS AND UNDERSTAND THAT A BENEFIT OF SERVICES BEING PROVIDED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ON A GENERAL LEVEL, WHEN WE HEAR COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, BOTH CITIZENS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OUTTA YOUR BRIEFING HERE IS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING US SOME FACTS AND DATA AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I WANT TO KNOW SOME BOOTS ON THE GROUND KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO WE KNOW THE PEOPLE HERE, YOU'RE ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOARD, THE STAFF, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH YOU. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THE VALUE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF GOING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 
          I MEAN, JUST TELL ME YOU GOT 800 PEOPLE ON THERE. 
          WELL, IF I LOOK AT THAT, YOU GOT $22 MILLION AND WE'RE ONLY 20% OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT. 
          EITHER, WE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY GETTING A LOT OF, DON'T CALL HER 
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TECHNOLOGY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, THE IDEA IS THAT I WANT TO GET A, I WANT TO GET, UH, SOME SPECIFICS ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I'M NOT GONNA NOT, NOPE. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING FOR YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          THIS GENTLEMAN HERE IS GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          CAN I THROW ONE OUT AT YOU? HOW MANY CALLS A MONTH OR A WEEK? OR HOW DO YOU GUYS TRACK THAT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA GIVE TO. 
          WE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT, THAT GETS TRACKED, WHETHER IT BE A FRONT DESK OR EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THOSE CALL IN. 
          I, I DID NOT BRING THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY. 
          I DID NOT BRING THAT LEVEL OF DATA WITH ME TONIGHT. 
          UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND GET AND GIVE BACK TO YOU ALL. 
          BUT I, I DID NOT COME IN RIGHT. 
          WELL PREPARED FOR ANY INDICATION. 
          IS IT 500? IS IT A THOUSAND? IS IT 2,500? I MEAN, ANY, I WOULDN'T WANNA SPECULATE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TIMES'S QUESTION IS IMPORTANT TOO, BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, AS WE GO ABOUT OUR NORMAL BUSINESS AND WE INTERACT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE MAY GET, WE MAY HEAR SOMETHING AND GO, OH, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I KNOW WHO CAN HELP YOU CALL TWO TWO OH WHATEVER, COLONIAL BAY OF HEALTH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, IF WE HAVE SPECIFICS, WE CAN EQUATE THAT TO MM-HMM . 
          'CAUSE I CAN'T, YOU LOOK, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOUR DD OR YOUR MH OR YOUR CDR, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SPECIFICS WILL HELP US HELP OUR COMMUNITY OUT BY POINTING THEM TOWARDS YOU. 
          AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY GET ENGAGED BY OUR 9 1 1 CENTER AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          OH YES. 
          SO THEY, AS THEY GET CALLS IN, THEY SAY YOU, YOU NEED TO TALK TO, THEY'LL GET YOU ENGAGED. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO HOW WOULD THEY ENGAGE YOU AS, THAT'S SORT OF THE, KIND OF THE CRITICAL PART OF THIS, THAT MOST OF THE CITIZENS WILL CALL THE HOSPITAL OR CALL NINE ONE ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S 9 1 1 A WRECK. 
          UH, THEY'RE HESITANT TO CALL 9 1 1 A LOT OF TIMES AND THEY'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET A, A NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER, OR THEY'LL SEE A POLICEMAN OR, OR A DEPUTY AND WE'LL HAVE SOME ENGAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          BUT DO THEY CALL YOU, YOU SAY YOU'RE GETTING CALLS FROM EVERYBODY, BUT THEN WHAT ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE GETTING CALLED FOR THAT KIND OF GO BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY? A 9 1 1 CENTER SAYS, OKAY, LOOK, WE GOT A PERSON HERE THAT, OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          DRIVING DOWN JEFFERSON, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. 
          AND HERE'S THIS GUY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          HE STAND AT JUST KINDA, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IS REALLY FREAKING OUT. 
          EVERYBODY'S PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DRIVE AROUND HIM. 
          AND EVERY FINALLY ENOUGH OF A STOP AND THE COPS COME RUNNING UP THERE BECAUSE HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WELL, WHAT GENERALLY IS GONNA HAPPEN? THE SCENARIO YOU JUST GAVE IS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WILL, WILL COME UP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT IN THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, VERY LIKELY FROM ANY OF OUR JURISDICTIONS, WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH WHAT WE CALL CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM TRAINING, CIT TRAINING, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONAL EVIDENCE-BASED MODEL, PROVIDING 40 HOURS OF TRAINING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROBATION AND PAROLE, JAIL PERSONNEL, WHATEVER, AROUND HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND TO INTERFACE AND INTERVENE WITH INDIVIDUALS THEY'LL ENCOUNTER WITH SUBSTANCE USE, MENTAL HEALTH, MAYBE AUTISM, ANY NUMBER, ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES. 
          AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HELP THAT PERSON GET WHAT THEY NEED WITHOUT ESCALATING THE SITUATION INTO HIGHER STRESS AND HIGHER, YOU KNOW, PROPENSITY FOR VIOLENCE OR ACTING OUT OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. 
          PART OF THAT TRAINING IS THAT THOSE OFFICERS ARE, THEY GET A FULL DAY OF TRAINING ON JUST WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT TO OCCUR. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLICE OFFICERS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOUR PEOPLE ARE DOING. 
          BUT THAT'S HOW THEY GET TO US. 
          THE QUESTION WAS, HOW, HOW DO THEY GET TO US? THE QUESTION IN THAT CASE IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT IN, IN THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND ANY OTHER NUMBER OF FOLKS THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL. 
          THEY CALL US. 
          WE WILL SOMETIMES THEY, THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE TRANSPORTED DIRECTLY TO US, TO OUR OFFICE. 
          SOMETIMES WE MAY MEET THEM IN, SO YOU TAKE THEM AT YOUR OFFICE. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE, WE CAN, WE CAN MEET AT THE EMERGENCY ROOM DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, ON WHAT THE OFFICER MAY DEEM TO BE THE LEVEL OF NEED. 
          AT THAT POINT, SOMETIMES THEY WILL CALL US AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH IT AND WE'LL MAKE A JOINT DECISION. 
          SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOUR ORGANIZATION IS WHAT I WOULD CLASSIFY AS A SECOND TIER RESPONSE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, FIRST RESPONSE WOULD BE THE MEDIA CRISIS THAT YOU GET. 
          SO WHOEVER'S DOING THAT, LEGAL, WHATEVER. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING IT ANOTHER LEVEL FOR OF SUPPORT THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH. 
          I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A CHILD RUNNING NAKED BUTT NAKED IN THE, AND THROUGHOUT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT HAPPENS. 
          'CAUSE WE HAD OUR DEPUTIES TELL US ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN SOCIAL SERVICES GET 
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INVOLVED. 
          DO YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THAT? SOCIAL SERVICES, LIKE WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT? IN SOME CASES WE DO. 
          AND IN SOME CASES THAT WHATEVER'S GOING ON MAY BE A, A NARROW DEFINITION OF, OF A SOCIAL SERVICES ISSUE. 
          BUT THERE ARE TIMES THAT THOSE ARE NARROW DEFINITIONS THAT IT'S JUST US. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DESCRIBING SOME OF THE MORE EXTREME EXAMPLES. 
          UM, YOU MAY HAVE FIVE OR SIX CASES LIKE THAT IN A MONTH, BUT THE HUNDREDS, HUNDREDS OF OTHER CASES WE DEAL WITH ARE FAMILIES WHO ARE STRESSED, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STRUGGLING, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DEPRESSED, PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING HALLUCINATIONS PEOPLE. 
          CAN YOU SAY A STRESS FAMILY? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT'S A STRESS FAMILY? THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THERE. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE THEY HAD A FAMILY MEMBER THAT ATTEMPTED SUICIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE THEY HAD A FAMILY MEMBER THAT COMPLETED SUICIDE. 
          MAYBE THEY'RE DEALING WITH SOME TRAUMAS FROM THEIR CHILDHOOD FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO. 
          AND THAT PERSON IS STRUGGLING AND IT'S AFFECTING THE ENTIRE FAMILY AND THE, THE ENTIRE, WHEN, WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL IN A FAMILY GETS AFFECTED LIKE THAT, IT DOES AFFECT THE ENTIRE FAMILY. 
          DO YOU PROVIDE, IF THEY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FOOD, DO YOU HELP 'EM GET FOOD? WE HAVE CASE MANAGERS THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE GET THE, GET WHAT THEY NEED, LINK THEM, LINK AND MONITOR TO PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED. 
          WE DON'T, WE DON'T PROVIDE THE FOOD ITSELF. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT? PENINSULA FOOD BANK, YOU WOULD, COULD GUIDE PEOPLE TO, TO THAT HOW THEY NEED FOOD. 
          PEOPLE ARE NOT EATING, EAT ELECTRICITY. 
          YOU DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HELP 'EM, NEVER GUIDE 'EM TO THE FOLKS. 
          WE GUIDE THEM, WE GUIDE 'EM TO THOSE, TO THOSE RESOURCES. 
          SO MIKE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE IS, AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS, HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO YOU THAT ARE, THAT ARE, HAVE THIS, SO I CALL A SECOND TIER BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY GOES, HEY, WE GOT A PROBLEM. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'LL EITHER COME UP TO A, YOU COULD COME UP TO 20 SUPERVISORS AND GO, WE GOT A PROBLEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CALL THE COUNTY. 
          THE COUNTY THEN WOULD PROBABLY KNOW WHO TO CALL. 
          AND THAT MAYBE YOUR OFFICE FOR SOME HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I MEAN BY SECOND TIER. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S, YOU'RE NOT ON THE LIPS OF EVERYBODY IN, YOU KNOW, THE, IN THE COUNTY I CALL, YOU KNOW, CLINICAL ABLE HEALTH 9 1 1 KIND OF NUMBER. 
          SO I MEAN THAT'S, I JUST, SO IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND, AND THAT WOULD BE AN INSIGHTFUL DATA POINT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP WAYNE'S QUERY ON CALL VOLUME MM-HMM . 
          PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CALLS THAT COME FROM PUBLIC PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOSPITALS, SOCIAL SERVICES, POLICE DEPARTMENT, COURTS VERSUS FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS THAT CALL YOU DIRECTLY. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU INSIGHT ON HOW WELL YOUR SERVICES ARE KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY VERSUS THOSE THAT GET, GET REFERRED TO. 
          AND YOU, AND I WOULD IMAGINE YOU WANT A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE KNOWING TO CALL YOU DIRECTLY AND GETTING ENGAGED. 
          SO BEFORE SOCIAL SERVICES, AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GET, GET INVOLVED. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOU, YOU WANNA GET TO. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE INSIGHTFUL IF YOU COULD BREAK, BREAK THAT DOWN TO SEE WHERE YOUR CALLS ARE COMING FROM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTICE ABOUT OUR FIELD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, QUARTER PAGE, HALF PAGE, FULL PAGE ADS AND LIKE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR MAGAZINES AND, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT GO ON. 
          AND PEOPLE FLIP RIGHT BY THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR US ANYMORE. 
          AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO FOR WHAT IT IS. 
          THEY'RE, WHAT IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO THERE'S MORE PUBLICITY OUT THERE THAN, THAN PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO. 
          PEOPLE DON'T OFTEN, I KNOW I DON'T, IF I WAS, I DON'T LOOK THROUGH NEWSPAPERS ANYMORE, BUT WHEN I DID, UM, I COULD SKIP PAST THE FULL PAGE COLOR AD. 
          YEP. 
          UM, IF I, IF I WASN'T INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS THERE, I'D JUST GO RIGHT PAST IT AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS. 
          I JUST FLIP PAST. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S OFTEN THE CASE WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AS WELL. 
          AND I DON'T, UNTIL IT AFFECTS YOU, UNTIL IT AFFECTS SOMEBODY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE. 
          YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WANT TO CATCH PEOPLE. 
          I'M GONNA INTERRUPT HERE AND LET DAVID CONTINUE WITH THIS. 
          YES. 
          LET'S, I'LL START TO BRAINSTORM HERE. 
          WE CAN GO ON FOREVER. 
          SO YES. 
           PART OF IT'S FUN FOR ME TOO, SO LET'S, UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP GOING. 
          UM, SAVE YOUR TIME. 
          WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END. 
          I'LL ALLOW THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, I WILL NOTE THAT, UM, WE'VE DONE SOME RESTRUCTURING OF OUR FRONT DOOR. 
          WE'VE DONE SOME RE REWORKING OF, OF HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THINGS. 
          SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE'RE SERVING AT, AT OUR FRONT DOOR THIS YEAR IS, IS ON PACE TO DOUBLE REALLY MAKING SOME MAJOR CHANGES AND HAVE MADE SOME MAJOR CHANGES. 
          AND WE'RE ON A, ON A SIGNIFICANT TRACK TO INCREASE THOSE SERVICES. 
          I WILL SAY THAT THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER THESE YEARS, NUMBERS MIGHT HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN, BUT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SERVICES AND THE, THE CLINICAL DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN THE DOOR ARE, ARE MORE CHALLENGING TODAY THAN THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          THEY, THEY JUST ARE, 
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PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH MORE THINGS. 
          THEY'RE APPROACHING, THEY'RE APPROACHING US WITH MORE THINGS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN THERE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE PROBABLY BEEN THERE ALL ALONG. 
          UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING. 
          PEOPLE ARE FEEL ARE SAFER. 
          FEEL SAFER TALKING ABOUT THEM THESE DAYS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO I'LL JUST, SO OUR CURRENT CHALLENGES, UH, I'M SURE YOU'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY HAVING WORKFORCE CHALLENGES BEFORE. 
          UM, SO WE'LL SURPRISE YOU AND SAY WE, WE HAVE HAD WORK, WE HAVE AND DO STILL HAVE WORKFORCE CHALLENGES. 
          UM, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR BIGGEST TYPE TYPE OF JOB? UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT ONES. 
          UM, ONE IS OUR LICENSED PROFESSIONALS, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS, LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS, OR THE MORE HIGHER CREDENTIALED FOLKS. 
          AND THEN IT'S WHAT WE CALL OUR DIRECT SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS. 
          IT'S THE FOLKS WHO PROVIDE OVERNIGHT CARE IN THE GROUP HALLS, PEOPLE WHO WORK, YOU KNOW, SECOND SHIFT, THIRD SHIFT, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, THE LOWER LEVEL SALARIED POSITIONS. 
          SO IT'S REALLY ON BOTH END, BOTH ENDS OF THE SCALE. 
          WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU COMPETING FOR THOSE RESOURCES? I, I'M SORRY. 
          WHO, WHO ARE YOU, WHO ARE YOU COMPETING WITH FOR THOSE RESOURCES AGAINST? SO YOUR QUESTION, SIR, THERE ARE, THERE ARE DOZENS, THERE ARE DOZENS OF PROVIDERS OUT THERE THAT, THAT NEED LICENSED STAFF. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S EASTERN STATE HOSPITAL, THE OTHER INPATIENT PROGRAMS, LOTS OF PRIVATE PROVIDERS, INCREASINGLY INSURANCES AND MEDICAID. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE REQUIRE LICENSED POSITIONS TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING. 
          SO THEY BE, THEY GET MUCH MORE IN DEMAND. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND ALL THAT WITH DIRECT SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMPETING WITH ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES AND NURSING HOMES AND HOME HEALTH AGENCIES. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN. 
          FEDERAL UNCERTAINTIES ARE WHAT THEY ARE THESE DAYS AND THE STATE'S NOT MUCH BETTER, UM, THESE DAYS. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'RE HAVING IS, UH, ACCESS TO STATE HOSPITAL BEDS. 
          WHILE WE DO HAVE EASTERN STATE HOSPITAL RIGHT HERE IN OUR, IN OUR GENERAL AREA, UH, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE INTO THAT HOSPITAL. 
          UM, WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE VERY OFTEN, THEY'RE HEADING TO MARION, THEY'RE HEADING TO NORTHERN VIRGINIA, THEY'RE HEADING TO STATON BECAUSE EASTERN STATE HOSPITAL IS PRIMARILY FILLED UP WITH, UM, WHAT THEY CALL THE FORENSIC POPULATION, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING OUT OF JAILS OR CERTAIN TYPES OF COURT ORDERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEED TO TRY TO GET MORE OF THOSE SERVICES LOCALLY IS TO HOPEFULLY CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN VERY POSSIBLY HAVING TO GO BACK AND PICK THEM UP LATER. 
          UM, AND THEN VIRGINIA'S REDESIGNING, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT ARE FUNDED BY MEDICAID, ALTHOUGH IT APPEARS THAT'S GONNA BE DELAYED FOR A YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FROM GENERAL ASSEMBLY ACTIONS. 
          UM, OUR CURRENT PROJECTS, UH, MARCUS ALERT, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON, UM, A, A SERVICE MODEL WHERE WE CAN INTEGRATE WITH A SINGLE FRONT DOOR, UH, YOUR PRIMARY CARE SERVICES, YOUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND DENTAL SERVICES IN ONE FRONT DOOR, ONE WAITING ROOM. 
          AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT, UM, THAT COULD BE A, UH, SIGNIFICANT BOOST FOR OUR SYSTEM IS THE C-C-B-H-C MODEL, UH, CERTIFIED COMMUNITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINIC. 
          IT'S A FEDERAL MODEL THAT, UH, IS A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTERS, UM, OUT THERE. 
          IT'S JUST ON THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SIDE OF THINGS. 
          UH, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRYING TO GET VIRGINIA ENROLLED IN, IN THAT NATIONAL, THAT NATIONAL PROGRAM IN THE, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          I MEAN, LATER THIS YEAR, OUR NEW CRISIS SERVICES CENTER, WHICH WE'RE REFERRING TO IS THE CENTER FOR SUPPORT AND WELLNESS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, FULLY FUNDED BY GOVERNOR KIN THE RIGHT HELP RIGHT NOW INITIATIVE. 
          AND WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE ARTIST RENDERING OF, OF THAT. 
          IT IS, UM, THE EXTERIOR SHEATHING IS GOING ON TO THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE, UM, WE EXPECT BY THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, WE'VE LEARNED TODAY, BY THE END OF THE MONTH, WE EXPECT MAYBE SOME OF THE START. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE DID THE GROUNDBREAKING RIGHT AFTER. 
          YES. 
          THIS WAS THE GROUNDBREAKING WHAT, LAST YEAR? YES. 
          IN SEPTEMBER. 
          SEPTEMBER 10TH OF LAST YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT THE, THE GOAL IS NEXT YEAR TO, TO DO THE SAME THING. 
          AND THERE WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL BEDS, TWO TO 10 DAY, 23 HOUR CRISIS STABILIZATION CHAIRS, RECLINERS, 
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NOT BEDS, AND THEN OUR CIT ASSESSMENT CENTER, OR BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TRANSFER CUSTODY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING AN EVALUATION PERIOD. 
          WELL, EASTERN EASTERN IS RIGHT THERE, ISN'T IT? EASTERN'S RIGHT THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          GOT THE BACK. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO DIVERT PEOPLE FROM, DIVERT PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO GO THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE ALSO SEEKING, UH, LITTLE WHILE, WOULDN'T SAY THIS IS IN MONTHS, BUT, UM, SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH, UH, MENTAL DISABILITIES, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HELP FOLKS GET BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE IN A SUPPORTED WAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, OUR, OUR, WE HAVE A DAY PROGRAM CALLED PSYCHOSOCIAL REHABILITATION MODEL FOR ADULTS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. 
          UH, REVISING THAT, THE PARTNERSHIP FOR INTEGRATED CARE AND THE MARCUS ALERT, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES ALREADY. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE WE DO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN THERE. 
          ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND I'LL TAKE WHATEVER, WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU'LL, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? JUST OVER 200, 200 EMPLOYEES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY'RE MO ARE THEY, HOW MANY OF THOSE 200 ARE, I GUESS WHAT YOU CALL CERTIFIED? THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS. 
          WELL, WHOEVER HAS CERTIFICATION LIKE PSYCHIATRISTS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS AND WHOEVER. 
          I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A STAFF OF THESE PEOPLE? WE HAVE PSYCHIATRISTS, WE HAVE, UH, NURSE PRACTITIONERS, WE HAVE NURSES. 
          WE HAVE LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS. 
          I DO NOT REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HOW MANY OF EACH OF THOSE WE HAVE. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE ARE CERTIFIED SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELORS. 
          THERE ARE CERTIFIED PRE SCREENERS IN THE EMERGENCY SERVICES WORLD. 
          THERE'S A, UM, QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, QUALIFIED DD, PROFE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S, BUT YOU HAVE 200 PEOPLE. 
          ARE THEY, DO THEY GO TO THE, ARE THEY AT THE CENTER? THEY'RE LOCATED? UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT ARE IN OUR YORK OSA OFFICE, WHICH IS DOWN HERE IN, IN HARWOOD WAY. 
          WE HAVE OUR PSYCHOSOCIAL PROGRAM, WHICH IS IN THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK OFF WARWICK COURT. 
          WE HAVE THREE BUILDINGS SIDE BY SIDE ON MERRIMACK TRAIL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S SERVICES BUILDING UP ON CAPITAL LANDING ROAD IN THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG. 
          MY OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF OUR DIRECTORS AND OUR HR OFFICE IS, UM, IT'S IN MCCALL CIRCLE. 
          WE'RE LEASING A SPACE THERE IN, IN JAMES CITY COUNTY. 
          THE TWO GROUP HOMES, FOUR BED GROUP HOMES ARE IN NEW YORK COUNTY. 
          OUR CIT ASSESSMENT CENTER IS LOCATED AT RIVERSIDE DOCTOR'S HOSPITAL. 
          C WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S THAT CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S A DROPOFF CENTER WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN BRING, CAN BRING FOLKS, UH, TRANSFER CUSTODY. 
          SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE, THEN IT THAT'LL ASSESS THE SITUATION YES. 
          DETERMINE THE NEXT STEP. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S AT RIVERSIDE. 
          THAT'S DOCTOR'S HOSPITAL. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE DO HAVE A STAFF PERSON EMBEDDED, UM, OR DIDN'T HELP ASSIST HIM WITH DISCHARGE PLANNING AT, UH, VPRJ AT THE JAIL. 
          AND THEN ONE, ONE STAFF PERSON EMBEDDED AT THE MERRIMACK DETENTION CENTER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I REMEMBER 25 YEARS AGO THAT ONE OF THE FIRST PROBLEMS WE HAD WAS STATE WAS CUTTING MONEY. 
          AND, UH, THEY, THEY, AND THEY WENT FOR YOUR PROGRAM. 
          I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING UP IN GLOUCESTER. 
          YOU HAD SOME, SOME EXTENSION PROGRAM. 
          AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT BECAUSE WHAT THE, THE SENSE TO ME WAS THAT, UH, NO ONE UNDERSTOOD COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 
          THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IF THEY UNDERSTOOD IT, YOU WOULD GET MORE FUNDING. 
          IT'D BE, INSTEAD OF 26 MILLION, PROBABLY END UP WITH 40, PROBABLY 40 MILLION. 
          BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PLACES TO PUT PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO, YOU HAVE TO, YOU, YOU'D STOP 'EM AND YOU WOULD HAUL 'EM DOWN TO THE JAIL. 
          THE WORST PLACE YOU CAN PUT SOMEBODY THAT'S HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. 
          SO YOU'RE DOING A REALLY IMPORTANT JOB. 
          THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ASKING SOME KIND OF TOUGH QUESTIONS. 
          'CAUSE I WANT THE PUBLIC TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE, WHAT YOU BRING TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          IF I JUST REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS THE FIRST THING, AND I SAW, AND I'M GOING, HOLY MACKEREL, THEY COULDN'T, THEY CUT IN THE SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE STATE FELT THAT IT WASN'T IMPORTANT. 
          WELL, IF YOU ALL IN THE COUNTY, MR. BELLAMY, THINK THAT US HOLDING A COMMUNITY FORUM FOR FOLKS TO, TO REALLY ADVERTISE THIS AND INVITE THE PUBLIC AFTER TO THAT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          WE'LL, I DON'T DO A SERIES OF THEM. 
          I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE PUBLIC THAT'S, I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC COULD GRASP WHAT YOU DO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S SO DIVERSIFIED. 
          YES. 
          AND SO MANY THINGS. 
          BUT WHAT IT IS, IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND. 
          'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE BUDGETS. 
          EVERYBODY HAS BUDGETS. 
          YOU GOTTA GET MONEY FROM SOMEPLACE. 
          BUT IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY YOUR SECOND TIER, IT'S THE, IT'S THE PRIMARY, 
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THE, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE CRISIS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE SITUATIONS WITH THE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, ACTION. 
          AND THEN YOU COME IN AND KIND OF HELP CLEAN IT UP ALONG, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TALKING SHORT TERM STUFF HERE. 
          I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GOT A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM. 
          IT'S NOT SHORT TERM. 
          IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A LONG HAUL. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE VALUE COMES IN. 
          ANYWAY, I I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IT IS A COMPLICATED SITUATION, BUT I THINK THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, THE MORE PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT IT IS. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR THEM. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY BELIEVES WE CAN DO TO BETTER DO OUTREACH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO DO IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH, DAVID, THANKS FOR THAT, UM, PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH THIS APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES AND I AGREE WITH TOM. 
          I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MENTAL ILL CHILD OR A RELATIVE, YOU DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          IT'S LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BOAT, YOU DON'T GO OUT IN THE WATER UNLESS SOMEBODY INVITES YOU TO GO. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL TRY TO GATHER FOR US, IF YOU COULD KIND OF BREAK DOWN, LIKE IN SUBJECT ORDER, LIKE HOW MANY TYPES OF SUICIDE CALLS OR DRUG ABUSE CALLS. 
          UM, AND ALSO I, I'M REALLY INTRIGUED ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR NUMBERS. 
          SHE SAID THEY DOUBLED. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON PACE TO DOUBLE THIS YEAR. 
          YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THAT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF SUCCESS WE'RE WE'RE GETTING. 
          AND, UH, THAT HELPS US SUPPORT THE CAUSE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST TESTING UPON THE OUTREACH, UM, CONVERSATION. 
          YOU, YOU, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A TOUGH TIME GETTING AN AUDIENCE TOGETHER. 
          IF YOU SAY, HEY, COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HELD US HAVING A PUBLIC FORUM. 
          I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, 'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T TUNE INTO THAT. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE REACH OUT TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES THROUGH NEWSLETTERS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO ANY INPUT YOU CAN GIVE US AGAIN, SOME REAL WORLD EXAMPLES. 
          A IF YOU'RE HAVING A PROBLEM IN THIS AREA, UM, HERE'S A RESOURCE FOR YOU AND, AND MARK MAYBE LIKE FOR THINGS LIKE THE, UM, WHAT THE QUARTERLY OR FINAL HOA MEANS, YOU CAN SAY WHEN IS THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS THING CALLED THE CLINICAL BE HEALTH. 
          YOU KNOW, TELL YOUR, TELL YOUR HOA RESIDENTS ABOUT, ABOUT SOME OF THEIR SORT. 
          AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER WAY TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO JUST YOU GET EMAILS OUT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          WELL, WE, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN OTHER LOCALITIES. 
          YE IT'S BEEN YEARS NOW SINCE WE'VE DONE THAT. 
          WE'VE DONE IT WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, SOME DIFFERENT LOCALITIES. 
          NO, NO. 
          SOME IDEAS. 
          WELL, I'M GOOD. 
          YOU'VE ASKED, I'VE GOT YOURSELF OUT ALREADY. 
          . 
          WELL, I'VE GOT A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO COMMENT, AND IT GOES BACK TO WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT MENTAL HEALTH CAPABILITIES OR, UH, RESOURCES WAS MENTIONED TO ME, UH, AS I WALKED DOOR TO DOOR AND TALK TO PEOPLE. 
          IT WAS ASTOUNDING. 
          THAT WAS THE ONE TAKEAWAY I HAD. 
          AND I JUST DIDN'T EXPECT THAT IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEKEND I'D BE OUT THERE AND KNOCK ON THE DOORS. 
          AND I DIDN'T COME AWAY A SINGLE WEEKEND WITHOUT HAVING HEARD THAT COMMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS FAR MORE FREQUENT THAN I REALIZED. 
          AND RELATED TO THAT, EVERY, UM, GROUP I SERVE WITH THE, YOUR COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH IS ALWAYS A TOPIC. 
          ALWAYS A TOPIC. 
          YES. 
          SO IT IT'S THERE TOO. 
          ANOTHER POTENTIAL OUTREACH COMING OUTTA COVID YEARS. 
          IT WAS YEAH. 
          EVEN MORE APPARENT. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          FUNDING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I COME BACK TO MOST RESIDENTS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO HELP FUND YOU. 
          THEY THINK OF HOSPITALS LIKE, UH, SENTARA OR RIVERSIDE, WELL, THAT'S FUNDED BY THE STATE. 
          WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR MONEY FROM THE RESIDENTS? AND I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT QUESTION AT THE BACK OF THEIR MIND. 
          WHY, WHY IS YORK COUNTY INVOLVED IN, IN FUNDING REQUESTS FOR CBH? COULD YOU, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT COMMENT JUST FOR A, A MOMENT OR TWO? WE'RE THE AGENCY THAT CAN'T SAY NO. 
          UM, A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WORKFORCE CHALLENGES HIT THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF. 
          WE'RE CLOSING BEDS. 
          WE WON'T ACCEPT ANYBODY. 
          THE STATE HOSPITAL SYSTEM HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAFETY NET FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
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AND THINGS GOT SO BAD AND YOU HAD SOMEWHERE YOU HAD TO GO. 
          IT WAS ALWAYS A STATE HOSPITAL. 
          IN THAT MOMENT, IT FLIPPED BECAUSE WHO WAS LEFT THAT COULD NOT SAY NO, IT WAS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD. 
          UM, WE ARE THE ONES THAT IN OTHER CASES, OTHER PROVIDERS, WHEN MOST OF THEM AREN'T TAKING INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT MEDICAID, THEY'RE NOT TAKING PEOPLE WITHOUT INSURANCE. 
          AND WHEN THOSE CASES GET REALLY DIFFICULT AND REALLY TOUGH, THEY NEED TO REFER THEM ON THE NEIGHBOR WHO'S ALSO IN THE SAME BUSINESS ISN'T GOING TO TAKE THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY SEND THEM TO US. 
          YOU SAID TO YOU, SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT OUR, OUR, OUR SITUATION IS GETTING MORE COMPLEX MM-HMM . 
          THE SITUATIONS WE DEAL WITH ARE MORE COMPLEX. 
          WE ARE THE SAFETY NET, WE'RE THE PUBLIC SAFETY NET FOR INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND DEVELOPMENTAL INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY CHALLENGES. 
          UM, IF, IF WE'RE NOT THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMUNITIES DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'LL HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO I HAD ONE OTHER TOUGH QUESTION. 
          IT'S FQHC. 
          OKAY. 
          FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER. 
          YES. 
          YOU ALREADY HAVE AT LEAST A LOOKALIKE WITH HOTEL MEDICAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THERE'S SOME QUESTION AS TO IS THERE MORE THAN ONE IN A COMMUNITY? AND, AND I HAD UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE, THERE'S NORMALLY ONLY ONE PER COMMUNITY. 
          SO HOW, HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT SPLIT? HOW DO YOU MANAGE GOING FORWARD, HAVING THAT CAPABILITY WHEN IT'S ALREADY PRESENT? WELL, OLD TOWN IS NOT A FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER. 
          THEY'RE A LOOKALIKE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE A RURAL HEALTH CENTER. 
          THEY'RE NOT A LOOKALIKE. 
          UM, THAT THEY HAVE NEVER YET FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION TO BECOME A LOOKALIKE. 
          UM, SO DISAGREE WITH YOU CONTINUE. 
          THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, I THINK. 
          AND THE, THE REALITY IS THERE IS A, THERE IS A FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER THAT WHEN THEY WERE FORMED YEARS AGO, THEIR FEDERAL AREA THAT THEY WERE AUTHORIZED TO GO INTO INCLUDED, UM, LACOON, YORK COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY, AND THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG UP TO JUST NORTH OF EASTERN STATE HOSPITAL. 
          THAT PROVIDER HAS NEVER PUT A LOCATION IN THAT AREA, BUT THEY ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE, UH, HEALTH RESOURCES, HEALTH RESEARCH SERVICES IN HRSA, UM, TO, TO DO SO. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THEM JUST SIMPLY EXERCISING WHAT THEY HAVE NOT DONE. 
          THEY'VE GOT FOUR, 14, OR 17 LOCATIONS AROUND HAMPTON ROADS. 
          THEY'VE JUST NEVER COME UP HERE YET. 
          IN DOING SO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMPLY DOING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO DO ALL ALONG. 
          BUT THEY WOULD BE, AT THAT POINT, THE ONLY FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, FOR THE AUDIENCE, IT'S, UH, TO APRIL AND BRUCE AND AMBER, OUR THREE, UH, BOARD REPRESENTATIVES. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO BE DOING TO HELP YOU? NO. 
          SO KEEP ON SMILING. 
          WE'RE THERE FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND PRESENTING TO US TODAY. 
          DAVID, THANK YOU. 
          VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WILL MOVE ON. 
          [2 Update on Towing Advisory Board Enactment.  Presentation by Captain Jason W. Houston  and Sheree Konstantinou, Assistant County Attorney. ]
WE HAVE AN EQUALLY, UH, INTERESTING TOPIC COMING UP. 
          NEXT UPDATE ON THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD ENACTMENT, I CALL ON, UH, CAPTAIN, UH, JASON HOUSTON AND CHERIE NU OUR, UH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM AND GENTLEMEN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING AND WE PROMISE TO BE JUST AS RIVETING AS COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. 
          NOT MORE. 
          UM, AS YOU ALL WILL RECALL, UH, SOME MONTHS AGO, YORK COUNTY FOR THE FIRST TIME ENACTED A TOWING BOARD REGIME, AN ORDINANCE COMING INTO, UM, COMMUNITY WITH OTHER LOCALITIES ACROSS THE STATE WHO SOUGHT TO SET UP PROGRAMS WHEREBY WHEN A CITIZEN IS, HAS A VEHICLE THAT IS SUBJECTED TO A TOW AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO CHOOSE TOWING SERVICES IN THE NECESSARY MOMENT, THEY CAN BE ASSURED THAT EVERYBODY WHO GETS TOWED IN THAT SITUATION AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST IS GONNA BE TREATED THE SAME WAY TO THAT EFFECT. 
          UM, THE BOARD, THE ADVISORY BOARD, LED VERY, VERY WELL BY, UH, CAPTAIN HOUSTON, UM, CREATED A SCHEME WHEREBY THEY CAME UP WITH VERY DETAILED MENU OF SERVICES, RATES, PROCEDURES, ALL OF WHICH WERE WEIGHED IN ON BY A GROUP THAT CONSISTED OF MEMBERS OF THE TOWING COMMUNITY, MEMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY, AND AN AT LARGE MEMBER. 
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UH, THIS BOARD ASKED THAT ONCE THE UH, ACTIVITIES GOT UNDERWAY AND THE ORDINANCE HAD BEEN IN USE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, THAT WE COME BACK AND REPORT TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND WHAT THINGS WOULD WE WOULD BE SEEING FOR THE FUTURE. 
          I CAN REPORT TO YOU THAT UNDER THE VERY, UM, DILIGENT ADMINISTRATION OF YOUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE NOW HAVE A 16 COMPANY ROSTER OF FIRMS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED TO PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE POLICE REQUESTED TOWING SERVICES IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO BOTH HEAVY AND LIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          IT'S A COMBINATION NUMBER AND THAT INCLUDES 10 ENTITIES IN THE UPPER COUNTY AND SIX ENTITIES IN THE LOWER COUNTY. 
          ON AVERAGE, THEY ARE FIELDING ROUGHLY 75 CALLS PER MONTH, WHICH IS NOT REALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY WERE DOING BEFORE. 
          THEY'RE JUST DOING IT NOW IN AN ORGANIZED ORDERLY AND, AND VERY UNIFORM FASHION. 
          UM, THEY HAVE FOUND SINCE THEY STARTED WORKING NOW THAT UM, ANY HICCUPS HAVE BEEN LARGELY MINOR. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WITH EDUCATION AND INSTRUCTION. 
          THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD IS SET UP IN ADDITION TO ADVISING THIS BOARD TO BE READY TO FIELD FORMAL COMPLAINTS THAT WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. 
          THEY HAVE NOT HAD TO DO SO YET. 
          THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE COMPLAINT MADE AND THAT WAS RESOLVED AT THE FIRST TIER OF RESOLUTION, WHICH IS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          AND FRANKLY, THAT WAS SIMPLY AN ERROR. 
          UM, THERE WAS A DEPUTY WHO DID NOT FOLLOW THE PROTOCOL AND CALLED FOR TWO TOES WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE CALLED FOR ONE THAT WAS RESCINDED. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE BILL WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND EVERYONE MOVED ON. 
          EDUCATION WAS PUT INTO PLACE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          CAPTAIN HOUSTON AND HIS STAFF ADVISED US THAT THERE ARE, UM, APPROXIMATELY SIX COMPANIES AWAITING THEIR FIRST ANNUAL INSPECTION. 
          ONCE, ONCE TOW COMPANIES ARE ADMITTED TO THE LIST ON A ROLLING BASIS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL STOP BY THEIR YARD, INSPECT THEIR PREMISES, CHECK ON THEIR TUT ON THEIR TRUCKS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS. 
          THERE ARE ABOUT SIX THAT HAVE LEFT TO BE EXPECTED TO BE INSPECTED, AND, AND THAT PROCESS IS MOVING ALONG WELL. 
          THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS GETTING A SUFFICIENT, NOT A SUFFICIENT NUMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THE CALLS, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LARGER NUMBER OF COMPANIES IN THE LOWER COUNTY. 
          OH, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE 10, UH, IN THE UPPER AND SIX IN THE LOWER. 
          THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT THEY HAVE IS SPACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE LOT TO TAKE THE VEHICLES TO AND, AND LET IT SIT. 
          UM, ANECDOTALLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TELLS ME THAT, UM, THE WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT IT'S TOO HARD TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
           , I'M GONNA TELL YOU AS COUNSEL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE APPLICATION SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE . 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE A PERCEPTION, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT PLAY OUT IN REALITY. 
          I HAVE, I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE COMPANY APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO HAVE A TOW STORAGE LOT AND BE MM-HMM . 
          APPLY NOW, LET ALONE BE TOLD. 
          NO. 
          UM, YOU SAYING FAKE NEWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? , IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NEVER, SIR. 
          NEVER. 
          NEVER, NEVER, SIR. 
          UM, THERE IS, I BELIEVE CAPTAIN, YOU LET US KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONE COMPANY THAT'S ATTEMPTING TO GET A, A SPOT SOME REAL ESTATE IN THE LOWER END. 
          THERE WAS A COMPANY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE LIST AND THE BUSINESS THEY WERE USING WAS SOLD TO ANOTHER COMPANY AND THEREFORE THEY LOST THEIR PERMISSION TO USE THAT LOT AND IT WAS ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WAS DEEMED, UH, PERMITTED TO BE ABLE TO RES RESUME THOSE OPERATIONS. 
          SO THEY HAD TO, THEY HAD TO RESIGN FROM THE LIST. 
          SO IT'D BE ON THE LIST. 
          YOU HAVE TO, UH, BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO TOW THE CAR, TOW THE, THE VEHICLE IN THE AREA. 
          AND YOU WERE SERVING. 
          WHAT ARE YOU SERVING THAT YOU'RE SERVING? OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          SO THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE IMPOUND LOTS RESIDE IN YORK COUNTY OR THE CITY OF POCOS, OR THE CITY OF POSA OKAY. 
          FOR THE LOWER END. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND COULD INCLUDE JAMES CITY OR YORK FOR THE UPPER END. 
          UPPER END, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE FOLKS TO HAVE TO GO FURTHER THAN NECESSARY. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO GET THE VEHICLE. 
          WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TOWED TO PENNSYLVANIA COUNTY. 
          NO, EXACTLY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE ACTUAL BILLS. 
          SOME OF THE CHARGES LOOKED A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. 
          THEY DEALT WITH IT DIRECTLY WITH THE TOW COMPANIES FEES WERE ADJUSTED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NO MORE WAS HEARD. 
          SO ALL IN ALL, I THINK THEY'RE OFF TO A REALLY GOOD START. 
          THE ADVISORY BOARD, UM, WILL BE ASKING IN A FEW MONTHS 
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TO COME BEFORE YOU, UH, IN A MORE FORMAL FASHION. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY WERE VERY, VERY GENERALLY HAPPY WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY HELPED PRODUCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW THAT THEY'VE LIVED WITH IT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO TWEAK JUST A COUPLE THINGS. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE TO TWEAK A DEFINITION. 
          SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY USE, THEY HAVE COME TO DISCOVER WERE MAYBE NOT NECESSARY. 
          UM, THEY DID A LOT OF READING. 
          WE AS A GROUP DID A LOT OF READING OF WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE DOING, HAVE BEEN DOING FOR MANY YEARS. 
          AND SO THEY'VE MADE, WANNA MAKE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS ABOUT, UH, TONNAGE ON SOME OF THE TRUCKS, CLEANING UP THE CLASSES A LITTLE BIT. 
          NOTHING THAT REALLY IMPEDES OR, OR IS CRITICAL FOR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION. 
          SO AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WITH LEAVE OF, OF THE BOARD, THEY WILL COME BEFORE YOU ASKING TO TWEAK THE ORDINANCE OF JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          WE COULDN'T DO THAT IN A CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WOULD WELCOME THAT SUGGESTION AND COULD PREPARE A MEMO AND GET THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO SIT THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          WELL, IF WE'RE AMENDING AN ORDINANCE THOUGH MM-HMM . 
          WE WOULD NEED TO THAT WOULD BE THE TRY. 
          THAT'D BE THE TRIGGER. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAD TO GET THAT OUT REAL QUICK BEFORE MY BOSS STARTED SHOOTING DARTS AT ME. 
          IT'S AN ORDINANCE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE THE ORDINANCE. 
          IF THERE, IF IT WERE SOMETHING ELSE, WE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BUT JUST MAKE IT PAINLESS. 
          THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. 
          MAKE IT PAINLESS. 
          WE WILL DO OUR BEST. 
          AND CAPTAIN AND I BOTH ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I'M GLAD THAT IT'S WORKING. 
          NOBODY'S SPOTTING EACH OTHER. 
          NO, MA'AM. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          . 
          SO, UM, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE CHECKING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEES AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY CONCERNS UP FRONT IS ARE THESE GONNA BE FAIR AND ARE YOU GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM THE PEOPLE BEING TOWED THAT THEY'RE TOO EXCESSIVE? ARE YOU GETTING ANY OF THOSE PLAIN COMPLAINT? NO, WE'RE NOT. 
          AND, UH, MY DIRECTION TO THE FULL-TIME STAFF THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS AND DOING THIS WAS THEY RANDOMLY AUDIT BY PULLING THE TOW SHEETS. 
          'CAUSE EVERY VEHICLE GETS A TOW SHEET. 
          SO THEY RANDOMLY GO THROUGH AND PULL FOUR OR FIVE TOW SHEETS EACH MONTH. 
          THEN THEY CONTACT THAT TOW COMPANY AND SAY, SEND ME YOUR RECEIPT. 
          THEY COMPARE THE PRICES, AND THEN THEY LOOK AT BODY CAMERA AND DASH CAMERA FROM THE CARS TO SEE IF EVERYTHING LOOKS LEGIT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING THE, THE STANDARD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FAIR, FIRM AND CONSISTENT. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUPLE COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          THE, THE, UM, THE PARTICIPANTS, THE 16 PARTICIPANTS, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR A WHILE, WHAT'S BEEN THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS THE ACTUAL PEOPLE THERE MAKING THE TOES AND WORKING WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD? ARE THEY, ARE THEY PRETTY SATISFIED WITH THE FEW THAT I'VE TALKED TO DIRECTLY? THEY'RE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING MORE MONEY CONSISTENTLY THAN WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE. 
          THERE WAS NO SET STANDARD BEFORE FOR THE MINIMUM PRICING. 
          UH, IDENTICAL TOES COULD RANGE FROM $200 TO $500 DEPENDING ON THE COMPANY. 
          SO I THINK THEY LIKE THE FAIR FIRM AND CONSISTENT PRICING. 
          THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY CAN CHARGE, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GET FOR EACH TOW, AND THERE'S NO GRAY AREA IN IT. 
          SO, AND WE HAVEN'T, AGAIN, HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANY CITIZENS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COST OR BELIEVING IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. 
          AND I, I FREQUENTLY GOT CALLS FROM INSURANCE COMPANIES BEFORE ABOUT THE PRICES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SECOND QUESTION. 
          THE, THE ADVISORY BOARD, HOW DO THEY EVALUATE THEIR SUCCESS ANNUALLY? I MEAN, I MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THEY, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GET TOGETHER AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS, HAVE WE BEEN SUCCESSFUL? WHAT AREAS ARE THERE FOR IMPROVEMENTS? I MEAN, THAT'S A BASIC QUESTION I THINK ANY BOARD SHOULD BE ASKING THEMSELVES. 
          AND, BUT IN THIS CASE, WHAT WOULD THAT, HAVE THEY DONE IT YET OR THEY PLAN ON DOING IT? WHAT WOULD THEY LOOK, WHAT WERE THEIR, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT TOPIC. 
          THEY JUST ARE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF IN, THEY HAVE, AS A GROUP DRAFTED AN ORDINANCE, WHAT IS IT? I THINK 12 PAGES OF CODE THEY WROTE AS A GROUP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FROM SCRATCH. 
          UM, THEY HAVE GONE FROM MEETING AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, OCCASIONALLY, TWICE A MONTH TO SETTING UP A REGULAR QUARTERLY SCHEDULE. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEER APPOINTEES. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHO SERVE VARIOUS TERMS. IN FACT, ONE OF THEM AT LEAST, I THINK IS COMING OFF IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WILL NEED TO BE, UM, REPLACED. 
          REPLACED. 
          AND SO, NO, I I, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE HAD A FORMAL, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALL GIVEN THEIR BEST EFFORT AND BEEN EXTREMELY DILIGENT AND COMP AND, AND, UH, CONSCI, IF I HAD A RESIDENT COME TO ME AND SAY, HEY, IS THAT THAT TONE OF ADVISORY BOARD? IS THIS SUCCESSFUL? I WOULD GO, YEAH. 
          I GO, WELL, HOW SO? LIKE, WELL, THEY'VE ONLY HAD ONE COMPLAINT, SO SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. 
          WELL, RIGHT. 
          I WOULD SAY THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING BECAUSE 75 CALLS A MONTH ARE GETTING SERVED. 
          FOLKS ARE NOT FIGHTING OVER BILLS CALLING THE SHERIFF'S 
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OFFICE ASKING, WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY THIS MUCH? WHY DID MY NEIGHBOR GET CHARGED $200 AND I GOT CHARGED $900? MM-HMM . 
          THERE'S AN ORDERLY SYSTEM BETTER THAN DOMINO'S. 
          THEY GOTTA BE THERE IN HALF AN HOUR. 
          . 
          AND THEY ARE, UNLESS IT'S A HEAVY DUTY, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A MAJOR ACCIDENT. 
          ACCIDENT ANYWAY. 
          AND THAT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT. 
          SO I THINK THE PROOF IS PROBABLY IN THE PUDDING AND, AND, AND WOULD COMMEND THESE VOLUNTEER SERVANTS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE PUT TOGETHER THE ORDINANCE FROM SCRATCH. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT, AND, AND THE SCOPE IS MOTOR VEHICLES ON STATE MAINTAINED HIGHWAYS. 
          DOES IT KIND OF GET INVOLVED IN TOWING BOATS? PEOPLE GET, THEY'RE AN ACCIDENT. 
          ONLY IF IT'S INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT OR DISABLED ON THE HIGHWAY IMPEDING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, OR, I MEAN, IT'S A PRODUCT OF A CRIME OR A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, SO SOMEBODY, NOBODY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO ILLEGAL PARKS, NO REPOSSESSIONS, NO ABANDONED VEHICLES IN SHOPPING CENTERS, NONE OF THAT. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE ON A STATE MAINTAINED HIGHWAY OR PERSON IT TO A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I I WAS JUST THINKING VIOLATIONS ON THE WATERWAYS, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE WATERWAYS AND THE BOAT GETS IMPOUNDED, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA TOW IT SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT WOULD BE VM R SIX. 
          THAT'S ALL VM THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF WE WE'RE PROBABLY INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATION, BUT IT WOULD BE VM RC HANDLE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WOULD SAY ANOTHER MEASURE, UH, OF WHAT WE DID AND HOW IT'S PERFORMING IS WE HAVE OTHER JURISDICTIONS REACHING OUT TO US NOW WANTING A COPY OF OUR ORDINANCE . 
          SO OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE HEARING ABOUT IT AND REACHING OUT. 
          AND, UM, I'VE HAD, I HAD A PHONE CALL LAST WEEK FROM ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WANTING TO SEE WHAT WE WROTE AND WHAT WE DID, AND THEY'RE CONSIDERING DOING THE SAME THING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN SEE. 
          YEAH, YOU, YOU TELL 'EM WHAT, WHAT THE COST WAS. 
          YEAH. 
          SAY WE CAN DO A CO CONSULT. 
          I I DIDN'T TELL THEM THERE WAS A COPYRIGHT THING. 
           NOT FREE. 
          WE CAN DO A CONSULT THING. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          INVITATION IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF IES. 
          I'D BE HAPPY. 
          YEAH. 
          I LIKE, IF YOU LIKE IT, THAT'S GOOD. 
          IF THEY NEED IT. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF GETTING THROUGH THE, THE ORDINANCE, UM, WE HAD, UH, THERE WAS THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT HEAVY, UH, EQUIPMENT BEING ABLE TO MOVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THERE WAS, I REMEMBER ONE OF THE, UH, FOLKS THAT HAD A PERSONAL, UH, GRIPE PAIR ABOUT THAT HE HAD THE ONLY EQUIPMENT THAT WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO USE FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT. 
          AND SO HOW DID WE, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DID THAT RESOLVE ITSELF IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT FOR THE, THE BIG TRUCKS TO HAUL THE SEMIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. 
          SO, UM, THAT BASICALLY RESOLVED ITSELF BECAUSE WE HAVE AN UPPER END AND A LOWER END OF THE COUNTY. 
          WE HAVE THE LOWER END LIST AND THE UPPER END LIST. 
          UM, THE LOWER END LIST ALREADY HAD LARGE RECORDS ON IT THAT HAD BEEN SERVICING THAT AREA FOR AT LEAST THREE DECADES WITHOUT A PROBLEM. 
          THAT COMPANY IS LOCATED IN NEW NEWPORT NEWS, BASICALLY RIGHT ON J CLYDE MORRIS AT JEFFERSON AVENUE. 
          THEY CAN BE TO THE LOWER END OF THE COUNTY IN, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15 MINUTES. 
          SO WHEN THE HEAVY DUTY LIST SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE ON SCENE WITH ONE HOUR OR LESS, THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH THEM BEING ON THERE. 
          THE OTHER THING WAS THE COMPANY THAT WANTED TO BE BASICALLY THE SOLE PROPRIETOR IN YORK COUNTY, WE WOULD THEN ONLY, UH, RELYING ON THEM. 
          SO WHEN WE CALL THEM AND THEY HAVE TO BE ON SCENE IN ONE HOUR OR LESS, AND THEY CAN'T BE THERE IN ONE HOUR OR LESS. 
          NOW WE'RE POTENTIALLY HAVE A DUMP TRUCK FLIPPED OVER AT VICTORY IN 17 AND WE'RE STANDING THERE WAITING. 
          SO WE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO ONLY HAVE ONE COMPANY TO ONLY RELY ON ONE COMPANY, UH, BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE EQUIPMENT FAILURE. 
          THEY COULD HAVE A DRIVER THAT WAS OUT SICK AND THEY COULD BE SHORTHANDED, WHATEVER WAS GOING ON. 
          SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD MULTIPLE LARGE RECORD COMPANIES. 
          AND SINCE WE HAD HAD A COMPANY THAT HAD CON CONTINUED TO SERVE FOR THREE DECADES, AT LEAST WITHOUT FAIL, AND IT HADN'T BEEN A PROBLEM, WE CONTINUED TO HAVE A LARGE RECORD COMPANY ON THE LOWER END AND ONE ON THE UPPER END. 
          THE COMPANY YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS ACTUALLY FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY? HE IS ON BOTH LISTS. 
          SO HE'S ON UPPER AND LOWER AS WELL. 
          BUT IT'S, BUT IT BE, IT WAS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE ADEQUATE EQUIPMENT TO, SIR, TO DO WHAT WE NEED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SUPER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME WAS ON ANY DISAGREEMENTS OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE PUT ON WARNING. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WHOLE SYSTEM HAS NOT HAD TO BEEN, UH, WE'VE NOT HAD TO USE THAT. 
          NO, SIR. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE THAT WAS PAINFUL, . 
          GREAT JOB. 
          UH, I WANNA THANK, I WANNA THANK BOTH, UH, CAPTAIN HOUSTON AND MS. NU, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ADVISORY BOARD. 
          UH, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THEY HAVE SUGGESTIONS AND TWEAKS COMING FORWARD AND FORWARD TO THAT. 
          IT JUST SAYS IT'S HEALTHY AND WORKING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THEY WERE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          [01:10:02]
ALRIGHT, 
          [CONSENT CALENDAR]
NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE WAS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM, UH, JANUARY 20TH. 
          ITEM FOUR WAS A APPROPRIATION FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26, EMERGENCY SHELTER UPGRADE ASSISTANCE FUND GRANT. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE WAS AUTHORITY REFUND, UH, REAL ESTATE TAXES FOR DISABLED VETERANS. 
          NUMBER SIX WAS EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, UH, COMMENDATION NUMBER SEVEN WAS AUTHORIZED ECONOMIC INVOLVEMENT INCENTIVE WITH THE US COUNTY, EEA, UH, AND PUBLIX. 
          IS THERE ANY, UH, ITEM HERE THAT, THAT, UH, MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO PULL OR DISCUSS? I GOT A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER SEVEN WAS THE, UH, AUTHORIZING THE EDA. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, SO WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IN THAT WE'LL ALWAYS COME AT IT, COME AT AHEAD THE WAY IT'S SET UP. 
          UM, AND EXTENDED TO GET NEW ES IN THE COUNTY. 
          NEW EMPLOYER, A NEW EMPLOYER IN THE COUNTY. 
          I THINK, WE'LL, WHAT DID THEY TELL US LAST TIME? WE TALKED HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF JOBS THEY, THEY ANTICIPATE GENERATING A HUNDRED TO 120 JOBS AT THAT LOCATION SPECIFIC LOCATION. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS A THREE FIGURE. 
          UM, IN MY, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IT TALKS ABOUT NET LOCAL TAXES. 
          SO THAT INCLUDES REAL ESTATE AND SALES, REAL ESTATE SALES, UH, MEALS, BEVERAGE, UH, MACHINERY TOOLS, B POLE, AND BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA EASILY MEET, MEET THOSE, THOSE PERFORMANCE TARGETS THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? FANTASTIC, THANK YOU. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          NO. 
          MOVE. 
          SECOND ROLL CALL. 
          MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED. 
          MRS. NOEL? YES. 
          MR. RY? YES. 
          MR. BROWN? YES. 
          MR. SHEPHERD? YES. 
          MR. VOY? YES. 
          MOTION CARRIED. 
          BEFORE WE GET TO, 
          [OPEN DISCUSSION]
UH, OPEN DISCUSSION, LET'S JUST, UH, ASK IF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS ANY, UH, UPDATES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET. 
          UM, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY, I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN, I GUESS THE ONE BIG ISSUE I WOULD NOTE IS, UM, THE SENATE BILL 4 54, UH, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TIMES. 
          THIS IS THE LEGISLATION THAT, UH, WOULD REQUIRE THE, IT WOULD BASICALLY OVERRIDE LOCAL ZONING WITH RESPECT TO 50% OF BUSINESS AND COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND ALLOW, UH, MULTIFAMILY TO BE PLACED BY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT IS THE, THAT BILL IS NOW THE ONE OUT OF THE FOUR THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EARLIER IN THE YEAR TWO, THAT WOULD'VE PUT SPECIFIC TARGETS IN PLACE. 
          AND GIVEN THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, A LOT OF MORE POWER, THOSE TWO BILLS, THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE VERSION HAVE, HAVE, WELL, FOR LACK FOR IN, IN SIMPLISTIC TERMS, HAVE BASICALLY GONE AWAY. 
          UH, THE SENATE AND HOUSE BILLS THAT ADDRESS THE TOPICS THAT ARE IN, UH, SB UH, 4 54 ARE, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. 
          ONE OF THE BILL, ONE OF THE VERSIONS OF THE BILL HAS A, UH, DELAYED EFFECTIVE DATE OF, UM, JULY OF NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT THE, THE SUBSTANCE OF THEM IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. 
          UH, NEITHER ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY APPROVED BY EITHER HOUSE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH PENDING DEFENSE. 
          IT, THERE IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE BILLS WITH OUR LOCAL DELEGATION WHO SEEM AMENABLE TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND SOME INTEREST. 
          AND SO, DID DELEGATE THORNTON CALL YOU? YES. 
          HE WAS RECEPTIVE. 
          YES. 
          IT WAS GREAT. 
          UM, SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, I, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY EITHER TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE BILL, THE BILLS OR POTENTIALLY HAVE THEM MAYBE CARRIED OVER FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 
          UM, PERHAPS PUT A REENACTMENT CLAUSE IN THEM THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE REENACTED BY THE NEXT GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 
          THAT IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IT WAS, BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY ONEROUS IN TERMS OF OVERRIDING THE COUNTY'S ZONING. 
          ZONING AND MANDATING, UH, USES THAT 
          [01:15:01]
THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING HAVE NOT FELT WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THOSE DISTRICTS TAKING WAIT, LOCAL AUTHORITY AND NOT JUST LOCAL AUTHORITY. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR ZONING IN MAP WAS DEVELOPED BY A GROUP CONSIST OF LOCAL CITIZENS AND OTHER PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT WASN'T JUST THIS BOARD DECIDING WHAT IT ZONE FOR THE COMMUNITY DECIDED THAT, SO, SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS BASICALLY TELLING THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE WRONG AND WE'RE GONNA DECIDE FOR YOU ALL ACROSS VIRGINIA. 
          SO IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, OR THEY, THEY, THEY GOT THEIR NOSES WHERE IT DOESN'T NEED TO, DOESN'T NEED TO BE, AND THEY NEED TO BACK OFF. 
          AND, UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THE BOARD AND, AND CITIZENS TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO YOUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEMBERS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND THE AFFORDABILITY IS A LAUDABLE GOAL, BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE? AND I THINK 4, 5, 4 ACTUALLY USED THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IT JUST KIND OF LAID THESE THINGS OUT WITH THE ASSUMPTION. 
          AND WE ARE ASSUMING, IT ALSO ASSUMES, I THINK THE, THE ARGUMENT ALSO ASSUMES THAT ALL OF THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE. 
          WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY NOT A REALISTIC ASSUMPTION BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. 
          SO, UM, COUPLE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BILLS, UM, HAVE BEEN AMENDED. 
          NOW, THE, THE TWO, THEY CALL 'EM COGNATES, ONE OF THE SENATE, ONE OF THE HOUSE HAVE BEEN AMENDED AND ARE GONNA NEED TO BE RECONCILED. 
          BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING. 
          SO THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHEN AND WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE SOME IMPLEMENTATION DELAY, BUT I WOULD SAY AT LEAST BY JULY 1ST, 2028, THAT'S GONNA BE IN EFFECT. 
          UM, THE CANNABIS LEGISLATION IS COMING WITH NO LOCAL OPT-OUT, SO, HMM. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF UNANIMOUS, WASN'T IT? OR IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS, BUT THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE REQUIREMENTS PUT IN PLACE THAT'S GONNA LIMIT THE ABILITY OF LOCALITIES TO REGULATE CANNABIS. 
          THERE'S SOME POWER TO REGULATE THE HOURS OF SALES WHEN, WHEN THEY CAN BE, WHEN IT CAN BE SOLD. 
          AND STILL SOME OPEN QUESTIONS REGARDING WHERE THE RETAIL LOCATIONS WILL BE LOCATED. 
          BUT THERE, THERE, THERE IS NO, AT THE MOMENT, NOT THE, NONE OF THE BILLS CONTAIN A PROVISION IN 'EM THAT WOULD ALLOW, FOR INSTANCE, A LOCAL, UH, REFERENDUM OPT OUT. 
          SO WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, GO AHEAD. 
          THIS IS WHAT I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT NIGHT. 
          , WE'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT YESTERDAY. 
          IT WAS, WELL, THE LAST COUPLE DAYS HAS BEEN PRETTY DETAILED DIGGING INTO THIS STUFF. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY DRIVES ME NUTS IS THAT YOU DON'T, THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE THE BILL'S GONNA LOOK LIKE MM-HMM . 
          I MEAN, FROM DAY TO DAY TO DAY, DEPENDING WHAT COMMITTEE IT GOES INTO. 
          AND THAT'S THE BIG TRICKS. 
          TRYING TO FI FIGURE OUT WHAT COMMITTEE IT'S IN CAN BE OF INFLUENCE. 
          UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PIECE HERE THAT I THINK PEOPLE REALLY, TRULY NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, THAT IT DOES, IT APPEARS TO BE LIKE A, A, UM, AN INTENT OF THE NEW ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS HOUSING SHORTAGE BECAUSE WE KEEP HEARING HOUSING SHORTAGE. 
          UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THESE PROPOSALS ARE BEING SUBMITTED BY PEOPLE. 
          AND NOW I'M, I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR FOR A FACT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AT LOCAL LEVEL IN GOVERNMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT HAPPENS, I KNOW OUR DELEGATES DON'T, UH, THEY HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. 
          AND SO THE PROBLEM GETS TO BE THAT I DON'T CARE HOW YOU CUT IT, THIS BECOMES AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. 
          I MEAN, IT SIMPLY BECOMES AN UNFUNDED MANDATE. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SCREAMING AND HOLLERING ABOUT FOR EVER SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD. 
          THE UNFUNDED MANDATE. 
          HOW IS IT AN UNFUNDED, WELL, THEY CREATE A LAW THAT CAUSES US TO DO STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR. 
          RIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU BUILD MORE HOUSES, WHAT DO YOU GET? YOU GET MORE COPS BECAUSE YOU GOT MORE CRIME, YOU GET MORE FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE YOU GET MORE FIRES, MORE LIFE SUPPORT. 
          THESE THINGS ARE NOT SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN. 
          YEAH. 
          SCHOOLS AND ALL THAT. 
          ESPECIALLY, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          SO, UM, THE, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING I'M SEEING IS NOW COMING DOWN. 
          IT'S GONNA DRIVE UP THE COST OF LIVING IN YOUR COUNTY, WHICH IS ALREADY PRETTY EXPENSIVE. 
          GONNA DRIVE UP THE COST OF LIVING IN THE WHOLE STATE. 
          BUT I'M, BUT I DON'T, I'M, I'M FOCUSED DOWN HERE ON YOUR COUNTY. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, UM, AND 
          [01:20:01]
SO IT'S, UH, UH, IT JUST STRIKES ME AS BIZARRE THAT PEOPLE GET ALL EXCITED, GET ELECTED, PUT INTO OFFICE AND IMMEDIATELY GO OUT AND START SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS GONNA COME. 
          IT'S GOTTA COME BACK. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, ALL WE KEEP HEARING THIS THING OF COST OF LIVING, COST OF LIVING. 
          NOW TIED TO THAT ARE SOME BILLS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT. 
          SO, UH, THE TRAILER BILL, THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE. 
          I LOVE THIS THING. 
          SO NOW, JUST TO KIND OF, I'M GONNA JUST SUMMARIZE THIS REAL QUICK. 
          IF YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A LOT YES. 
          ANYWHERE IN VIRGINIA, YOU CAN PUT A TRAILER ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT TAKES OUT ANY, ANY, UM, UH, ZONING, JURISDICTIONAL MODIFICATIONS. 
          I MEAN, WE HAD LOT, WE HAD, DIDN'T WE NOT ZONE SPECIFICALLY, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE TRAILERS. 
          UH, BUT WE LIMITED THE TRAILERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A, THEY, THEY HAVE A, THEY DON'T HAVE A, THEY HAVE KIND OF A SHELF LIFE THAT'S NOT AS LONG AS A, AS A STANDING HOUSE. 
          BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN END UP THINGS LIKE DOWN IN FLORIDA, IF YOU GOING ON THE GULF COAST OF FLORIDA IS NOTHING BUT TRAILERS. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU, YOU GET A STORM, YOU KNOW, HALF THE PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE GULF MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THEY GET WASHED OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. 
          NOW, HAVING LIVED IN A TRAILER, I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S TEMPORARY HOUSING, BUT THEN IT COMES DOWN TO US AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO THAT'S A BILL THAT'S STILL HANGING OUT THERE, RIGHT? WELL, THE, THE, THERE'S TWO VERSIONS OF THAT BILL. 
          ONE HAS ALREADY PASSED. 
          AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT BILL FLEW UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE IT HAD ALMOST NO OPPOSITION. 
          AND IT PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY, NO ONE, NO ONE HOUSES BOTH HOUSES. 
          I DON'T CARE WHAT PARTY YOU THINK ABOUT IT, OVERWHELMINGLY, VIRTUALLY NO OPPOSITION. 
          AND ONE VERSION IS HEADED TO THE GOVERNOR. 
          ANOTHER VERSION IS, I THINK, IN THE SENATE. 
          SAME BILL, SAME LANGUAGE. 
          AND THAT ONE HAS BEEN PASSED BY. 
          'CAUSE MAYBE SOMEBODY FINALLY NOTICED WHAT, WHAT WAS GOING ON? WELL, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, THE BILL WAS SUBMITTED THERE AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE GOING RATE FOR LAND IN YOUR COUNTY FOR AN ACRE OR HALF AN ACRE OR A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, BUT IT'S NOT CHEAP. 
          SO WHY WOULD YOU PUT A TRAILER ON, ON SOMETHING YOU MAY END UP PAYING A HUNDRED THOUSAND, $200,000 FOR? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, I MEAN, IT MAY NOT HAVE THAT MUCH OF A REAL SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, BUT, BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING, BUT IT COMES TO US EVENTUALLY, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS. 
          I MEAN, SOME MORAL REQUIREMENT. 
          I, I WOULD THINK TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE HAD THIS BIG BATTLE A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHERE TINY HOUSE, REMEMBER THAT LITTLE TINY HOUSE, THEY WANT 400 SQUARE FOOT. 
          THEY, I THINK IT ENDED UP IN THE TRAILER PARK. 
          BUT THERE, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. 
          BUT THAT'S, WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS THE HOUSING, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA GET THE STATE DOWN HERE ADDRESSING IN FOREST AND THIS PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STATE, REGARDLESS OF THE STRUCTURE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU RUN INTO. 
          NOW, TIED TO THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER BILL ABOUT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, THEY WILL THEN BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT. 
          THIS IS BY RIGHT NOW TO, UM, BILL MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING ON IT. 
          ALRIGHT? NOT AGAINST THAT. 
          BUT THE POINT IS, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT'S GONNA BE TAXED. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE AREN'T GONNA BE ANY FREE RIDES BECAUSE YOU MOVE PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE GOT A, THEY GOT, WE STILL GOT THE SCHOOLS, THE COPS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF TO DEAL WITH. 
          AND WE'VE STILL GOTTA FUND IT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW, I, I'M NOT UP TO SPEED ON HOW MUCH OF THAT LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S A BY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS IT? THERE WAS THE, THE, THE TRAILERS, THE RELIGIOUS PROPERTY, THE, UH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE. 
          ACCESSORY DWELLING. 
          ACCESSORY DWELLING. 
          OH YES. 
          NOW THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE CONFUSING. 
          WE USED TO, IN, IN HERE, GO ROUND AND ROUND AND AROUND. 
          SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD A MOTHER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE. 
          WE, WE FINALLY GOT DOWN TO WHERE WE GOT SO MANY OF THEM SHOWING UP, UH, LIKE A TOURIST HOME ALMOST. 
          THERE WAS SO MANY OF 'EM SHOWING UP. 
          WE SAID, OKAY, LET'S JUST PUT IT, THERE'S A PARAMETERS. 
          YOU WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS. 
          REMEMBER ALL THAT STUFF WE DID LAST YEAR ABOUT FIGHTING OVER THIS STUFF? OKAY. 
          AND THEN, AND IT COULD BE SO FAR AWAY AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BUY, RIGHT. 
          ABILITY TO PUT A ACCESSORY APARTMENT ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          ROUGHLY SPEAKING, THERE'S SOME PARAMETERS TO THIS. 
          WE, WE THINK THAT THAT BILL IS LIKELY IN ITS CURRENT FORM, NOT GONNA IMPACT YORK COUNTY BECAUSE IT EXEMPTS EXISTING, UM, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. 
          WELL, THERE'S SOME MORE PARAMETERS, BUT AGAIN, BUT AGAIN, WHAT DO YOU GOT? YOU GOT A BILL THAT'S COMING IN, MESSING AROUND WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT BY GIVING US A CHANCE. 
          WE BUILD OUR ZONING, WE DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          AND, UM, THE 
          [01:25:01]
UNFUNDED MANDATES ARE, I THINK, UH, ARE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA COST US. 
          THEY ALWAYS HAVE. 
          UM, NOW THIS, THIS THING ABOUT THE, UM, NEGOTIATING, UM, I CAN'T USE THE TERM HERE 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T USED IT THAT MUCH, BUT IT'S THE, WHERE YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THE EMPLOYEES FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAIN, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, BARGAINING, GUESS WHAT? YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER COST. 
          OKAY? IT'S FAIR. 
          IF WE'RE NOT PROVIDING A, WE'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE A, UM, A LIVABLE WAGE, THEN GUESS WHAT? STATE'S GONNA COME DOWN THERE AND MAKE US PROVIDED IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THROUGH. 
          BUT WE ARE GONNA GIVE A, A LIVABLE WAGE. 
          I KNOW WE, WE GOT I THINK OUR 70 PERCENTILE, I THINK OUR 70 PERCENTILE IS GONNA HELP ADDRESS THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE BOOKS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, AND IT IS GONNA COST, SO EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT GOES TO THE TAX RATE. 
          EVERYTHING OKAY. 
          GOES TO THE TAX RATE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. 
          I DON'T, UM, AND I JUST, I'M JUST STUNNED BY HOW IT CAME OUT OF THE CHUTE SO FAST THAT IT ACTUALLY KIND OF A BLOWING BIAS. 
          AND, AND IT'S TYPICAL WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO LASSO THIS HORSE AS IT'S RUNNING DOWN THE RANGE AND TRY TO SLOW IT DOWN SOMEHOW. 
          SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH IT. 
          SO I GOT MY, MY SPIEL IN EARLY. 
          I WAS GONNA ASK IF YOU HAD ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, . 
          ANY OTHER YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? I HAVE, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING. 
          WELL, I WANTED TO COME BACK TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BEFORE WE YES, PLEASE DO. 
          FOR THE BOARD. 
          ANYTHING TO, TO OFFER MR. BELLAMY? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          NOTHING DECEIVING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW WE'LL MOVE TO BETTERS FOR THE BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, BEFORE YOU GET TO WHAT YOU WANNA DO, I JUST WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT I FINALLY GOT ELECT A LETTER FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF A USS YORKTOWN. 
          NOW THAT, THAT'S JUST A POSS A FAINT POSSIBILITY. 
          I, I WON'T READ THE WHOLE LETTER, BUT IT SAYS, THE NAMING OF A NAVAL SHIP IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST HONORS OUR NATION CAN BESTOW. 
          AND ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NAVY, I'M PRIVILEGED TO RECEIVE NUMEROUS SUGGESTIONS FROM VETERANS SERVICE MEMBERS AND CITIZENS ACROSS THE COUNT COUNTRY. 
          I'LL SKIP THE REST OF IT. 
          THE PROCESS IS A THOUGHTFUL AND SOLEMN ONE, WEIGHING THE MANY WORTHY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A LIMITED NUMBER OF VESSELS. 
          PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT YOUR SUGGESTION HAS BEEN FORMALLY RECEIVED. 
          IT WILL BE GIVEN FULL AND EARNEST CONSIDERATION AS WE SELECT THE NAMES FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF NAVAL SHIPS. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR, UH, WHATEVER. 
          ANYWAY, AT LEAST WE FINALLY GOT AN ANSWER. 
          UH, SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN, AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT ONE BACK FROM ONE OF OUR SENATORS, WHICH WAS JUST A FORM LETTER, NOTHING ON IT. 
          AND I WAS BEGINNING TO WONDER WHETHER WE WOULD EVER HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          AND ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS SIGNED BY JOHN FELL, I THINK IS HOW YOU SAY HIS NAME. 
          THERE'S THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY. 
          SO FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE WHO LISTENED TO US AND YOU HAVE BEEN WRITING LETTERS, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. 
          AND KEEP WRITING. 
          AND THANK YOU, SHEILA. 
          THIS HAS BEEN YOUR INITIATIVE. 
          WELL, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT RESPONSE. 
          LET'S JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT OUR, WHAT COMES DOWN THE ROAD. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE NOT FINISHED YET. 
          YOU'RE A LOT FURTHER ALONG THAN WE THOUGHT YOU'D BE. 
          . 
          WELL DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          READY? OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS. 
          UM, THE ONE THAT'S PROBABLY BURNING HOLES IN PEOPLE'S EARS TONIGHT IS THE NO WIG ZONE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, SO THAT PROCESS IS UNDERWAY IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT YET. 
          UNDER WIG, UNDER WIC. 
          UNDER WIC, YEAH. 
           UNDER W YEP. 
          THERE'S A NEWS RELEASE THAT CAME OUT TODAY, UH, THAT WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS IF YOU WANT TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          SO PLEASE PUT YOUR APPLICATIONS IN AND, UH, WE WILL BE VETTING THOSE FOLKS, UH, FOR THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME, IT'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA DO. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK FOR THE BOARD'S, UH, SUPPORT TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE AND REPRESENT THIS, THIS TEAM. 
          YOU GOT A BOAT? I DO. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          AND I LIVE ON THE WATER. 
          I LIVE ON CHISMAN CREEK, SO I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. 
          UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE 12 MONTH TIMEFRAME, SO I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE THAT LONG. 
          AND ALSO THE AUTHORITIES HAVE AGREED NOT TO, TO GIVE CITATIONS OUT DURING THE PROCESS TIME. 
          SO WE DON'T, I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS SAYING, OH MY GOSH, WE CAN'T DRAG THIS OUT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 
          SO JUST KNOW THAT WE WILL BE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET THAT DONE. 
          UM, SECOND THING IS BACK TO MR. HILL'S DISCUSSION ON CANNABIS. 
          UM, 
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I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN DISCUSSION AT LEAST A, A LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH MR. BELLAMY AND WHOEVER ELSE. 
          UM, MR. OR MR. MR. ANDERSON'S OVER HERE. 
          THERE, MR. ANDERSON. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO START OPENING, UM, SOME DISCUSSION ON IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF DOING WHAT WE DID WITH THE STRS? WE, WE, WE RESTRICT HOW MANY CAN BE IN A CERTAIN GIVEN LOCATION OR A DISTANCE FROM EACH OTHER. 
          UM, THINGS LIKE THE VAPE SHOPS, THE CAR WASHES, THE THINGS THAT ARE OVERLOADING OUR COUNTY. 
          CAN WE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE? CAN WE PUT MORATORIUMS ON CERTAIN THINGS FOR A SEASON WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO BRING BETTER BUSINESS INTO YORK COUNTY? SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT CONVERSATION OPEN. 
          THAT QUESTION WANTED TELL, SO YOU KNOW, THE ONE WE DID OWN IS A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE, AND YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE, WE MET THE LEGAL BIT ABOUT NOT ZONING THEM OUT COMPLETELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER BUSINESS WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO ANY BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING. 
          CAN WE GO WORK THROUGH THE LEGAL FEES AND WORK THROUGH ZONING AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND WAYS TO START RESTRICTING SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY OVERTAKEN THE COUNTY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, AND WE DON'T NEED 18 CAR WATCHESS. 
          WE DON'T NEED 25 VAPE SHOPS. 
          SO IF WE'VE GOT 'EM IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT, GREAT. 
          BUT LET'S NOT OVERLOAD THE COUNTY WITH THOSE. 
          SO DO I HEAR ENDORSEMENT FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS TO, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT? DEFINITELY. 
          LOOK AT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SEE WHAT WE GOT. 
          MR. BILL, YOU TAKE THAT ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TO BE VERY CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE. 
          YES. 
          ALTHOUGH IN VAPE SHOPS, I SUSPECT THERE'S NEW LEGISLATION COMING OUR WAY THAT THAT HAS SOME RESTRICTIONS. 
          MOST OF THAT'S GONNA BE MANAGED AND ADMINISTERED AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT YES. 
          WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT IT. 
          YES, INDEED. 
          AND YOU RECENTLY CHANGED THE ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IT FOR ALL VAPE FOR CIGARETTE SHOPS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE LAST IS, I JUST WANNA DO, AS I ALWAYS DO, GIVE AN UPDATE ON NEW BUSINESSES. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY CUTE, ADDIES OPENED UP YESTERDAY, HAD A RIBBON CUTTING THERE, AND IT WAS SLAMMED. 
          I THINK THEY HAD SLAMMED HOURS. 
          YEAH, THEY WERE SLAMMED TODAY. 
          I WENT BACK FOR LUNCH, ACTUALLY. 
          I WENT THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH TO SEE HOW THAT WORKED. 
          AND I, I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I DROVE THROUGH AND FROM THE TIME WE PLACED OUR ORDER, WE GOT IT IN FOUR MINUTES. 
          FOUR MINUTES. 
          FOUR MINUTES. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          THAT WAS GOOD. 
          YESTERDAY, NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO LEARN THE PROCESS. 
          BUT TODAY, LUNCH MARK, UH, THE LINES WERE A LOT SMALLER TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING BETTER AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, GIVE 'EM A SHOT. 
          GREAT FOOD, GREAT SERVICE, GREAT PEOPLE. 
          AND, UM, WE WANNA SUPPORT 'EM ALL WEEKEND. 
          SO, UH, VIRGINIA BEER COMPANY, EVERY TIME I GO BY THERE, IT'S FULL. 
          IT'S FULL. 
          THE PARKING LOT'S FULL. 
          AND, UM, SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GO SUPPORT THEM. 
          UM, I TALKED TO, UM, THE CHICK-FIL-A OWNER OPERATOR FOR THE NEW CHICK-FIL-A YESTERDAY. 
          NO, MAYBE TODAY. 
          UM, HE SAID THEY ARE SHOOTING FOR AN APRIL 30TH OPENING. 
          SO HE SAID THEY'RE ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEHIND WHERE THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE. 
          AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY THERE, I THINK THE BRICK ON THE BACK IS DONE. 
          THE BRICK ON THE LEFT IS DONE, AND THE BRICK ON THE FRONT IS ABOUT HALFWAY DONE. 
          SO THAT STRUCTURE'S UP AND GOING. 
          LIGHTS ON INSIDE, THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THE, UM, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND HEATING AND AIR. 
          SO THOSE GUYS ARE ROLLING ALONG. 
          UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, COOKOUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WENT BY THERE TODAY. 
          THE STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY BEING BUILT. 
          THEY'RE STARTING TO, TO PUT THE STRUCTURE IN PLACE. 
          AND ALSO AT CHIPOTLE, THE FOOTINGS ARE GOING IN. 
          SO LOTS OF GREAT, GREAT THINGS COMING TO YORK COUNTY. 
          AND I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME THINGS IN THE WORKS, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES OF MAYBE SOME OTHER BUSINESSES THAT I THINK COULD BE AWFUL, REALLY GOOD FOR YORK COUNTY AND BRINGING IN SOME MORE REVENUE. 
          SO, MR. CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          MR. ROME, WE, UM, WITH, WITH, UM, YZ HEALTHY KIDS DAY, COMING UP IN APRIL 18, WE HAD REACHED OUT TO OUR LOCAL CHICK-FIL-A PROPRIETOR AND SAID, HEY, BUT WHAT AM I GETTING? THE, THE  THERE? AND HE SAID, WELL, WE, WE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HOLD HIM 'CAUSE WE MAY NEED HIM IN APRIL. 
          SO THAT WAS A CLUE, THEIR COMMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED Q DADDY'S Q DADDIES IS A GREAT FAMILY STORY. 
          I, I LOVED HEARING WHAT MS. JOY HAD TO SHARED WITH US, AND I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE HOW THEY, UH, DID A TRIBUTE TO POPS FOR SOME OF THE RELICS THEY FOUND THERE AND FIND IT ON THE WALL THERE. 
          SO IF YOU GO BY THERE, WHEN YOU READY TO COME IN, LOOK TO YOUR LEFT, AND YOU, YOU'LL SEE THAT LITTLE TRIBUTE THEY DID. 
          SO THAT I LIKE THAT A LOT. 
          UM, THEY ALSO KEPT SOME EQUIPMENT FROM POPS. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          THAT THEY USED IN THE, IN THE COOKING AREA, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, SO THREE THINGS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, TIME CHANGE THIS WEEKEND. 
          SO DON'T FORGET TO CHANGE YOUR CLOCK. 
          SO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T SHOW UP TO CHURCH WHILE THEY'RE SINGING THE BENEDICTION. 
          YEAH. 
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LITTLE EMBARRASSING. 
          UM, IT'S THIS WEEKEND, RIGHT? THIS WEEKEND? YEP. 
          IT'S COMING UP SUNDAY. 
          UM, UM, AN EXTRA HOUR. 
          RIGHT? IT'LL AHEAD. 
          SO, UM, YOU GO TO BED EARLY ENOUGH FOR YOU TO GET AN EXTRA HOUR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SECOND OF ALL, WE RECEIVED SOME SAD NEWS. 
          THE PASSING OF MADAM NICOLE YANCY. 
          HOPEFULLY THOSE OF US, THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO KNEW MS. NICOLE SWEET LADY, A ICON IN THE COMMUNITY, INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS WITH THE, WITH THE W THREE R FOUNDATION. 
          REALLY SAD TO HEAR ABOUT HER PASSING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, PRAYERS GO WITH, UH, UH, HER, HER, HER SON, DAVIDS, THE REST, THE REST OF THE YANCY FAMILY. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY THE GOOD LORD WILL GIVE THEM SOME COMFORT IN, IN THIS TIME. 
          AND THE THIRD THING I WANNA COVER, I I COVER THIS IN, UM, A NEWSLETTER, BUT IN CASE YOU, FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T GET THAT, THIS IS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. 
          SO, UM, OUR CIRCUIT, OUR CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT, MS. KRISTEN NELSON, WORKED HARD AND DIGITALLY OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS TO HELP GET THIS IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND THIS IS THE VIRGINIA DEED ALERT SYSTEM. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA READ IT HERE, DESCRIBES IT BETTER THAN I CAN TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT. 
          SO THE VIRGINIA DEED ALERTS DEED ALERT SYSTEM ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATIONS WHENEVER A DOCUMENT IS RECORDED IN THE LOCAL LAND RECORDS THAT MATCHES THE NAMES ESTABLISHED WITH THEIR ACCOUNT. 
          THESE ALERTS CAN NOTIFY USERS OF POTENTIALLY FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES SUCH AS UNAUTHORIZED DE TRANSFERS OR FILING. 
          NOW IT WILL ALERT YOU AFTER THE FACT. 
          IT CAN'T PREVENT DOCUMENTS FROM BEING RECORDED OR FILED FRAUDULENTLY, VIRGINIA JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE MECHANISM IN PLACE TO ALLOW THAT. 
          NOW, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THEY WILL, BUT IT, IT CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WITH ANY PROPERTY, GO TO VIRGINIA DEED ALERT, GO TO THE, UM, THE, UH, THE CLERK OF COURT'S, UM, WEBSITE IN THE COUNTY. 
          ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE. 
          SIGN UP, GET ON THERE. 
          SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU'LL AT LEAST GET THE ALERT THAT YOUR SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON. 
          WELL, IN ADVANCE OF FINDING OUT FROM THE BANK OR SOMEBODY SHOWING UP AT YOUR HOUSE GOING, HEY, THIS IS MY HOUSE. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT'S AN AWKWARD CONVERSATION, SO YOU'LL GET ALERT A WHOLE LOT SOONER. 
          SO REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY, CHECK THAT OUT. 
          SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          IT'S A GOOD SERVICE. 
          FREE OF CHARGE. 
          NO DOWNSIDES TO SIGN, SIGN IT UP. 
          DO SO AS SOON AS YOU CAN. 
          THANK YOU, JUDGE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WANTED TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT MS. YANCY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NICE THING ABOUT THE ONE THING IS ABOUT, UH, MS. YANCEY, HER SON DAVID WAS A DELEGATE FOR, FOR SOME TIME. 
          AND, UM, BUT, UH, WHEN I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD HERE AND THE AIRON, UH, YES, CAME IN AND IT'S, UH, AIR ME OWNS THE SHIP THAT IT'S THE OLD WORLDLY LOOKING SHIP. 
          AND, UH, IT WAS GREAT. 
          CAME IN, IN CELEBRATION HERE. 
          THEY MADE A STOP FROM, I THINK IT CAME FROM NORWAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES, THEY CAME IN, THEY STOPPED OVER IN PORTSMOUTH, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO STOP IN NEW YORKTOWN BECAUSE OF THE TRADITIONAL PART. 
          AND SO I HAD, UH, I'VE BEEN STUDYING FRENCH FOR A WHILE, BUT NOT A LOT. 
          BUT I STUDIED IT. 
          AND SO I, UH, I MADE, I CAME UP WITH THIS BRILLIANT IDEA THAT, UM, I WANTED TO GIVE A SPEECH IN FRENCH, OKAY, . 
          NOW, AT THAT TIME, I DID NOT KNOW WHO ALL WAS GOING TO BE THERE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOVERNOR OF STATE OF, OF VIRGINIA, COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, THE, UH, FIR UH, FIRST COMMISSIONER OF FRANCE, WHICH WAS LIKE THE, THE MOST POWERFUL COMMISSION POSITION YOU CAN HAVE UNDER THE, WHATEVER THEY CALL THE PRESIDENT OF OF FRANCE, WHO HAPPENED TO BE MARRIED TO THIS WOMAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT ALL WORKED OUT. 
          THE AMBASSADOR OF FRANCE, FRENCH FRANCE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAD ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, UN OR THE, THE, THE INTERNATIONAL PART, THE HAGUE PART OVER HERE, FOUR STAR AND HIS STAFF ALL SHOWED UP. 
          SO I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GONNA GIVE THIS SPEECH IN FRONT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE, AND EVERYBODY WAS REALLY EXCITED. 
          AND I JUST NEEDED, I SAID, UM, I SAID, WE JUST GOTTA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY THE WORDS, BUT WE GOT, THIS IS WHAT I WANNA SAY. 
          AND, UM, SO MS. YANCY, SHE, UH, WE SAT DOWN. 
          I SAID, UH, HERE'S, I, I WROTE, I WROTE OUT EVERYTHING I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          IT WASN'T ONE OF THESE, UH, HELLO, WELCOME HERE. 
          WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. 
          AND BOOM, THAT WAS IT. 
          NO, THIS WAS, THIS WAS A, UH, UH, FULL UP SPEECH. 
          AND, UH, SO SHE BUILT A SPEECH FOR ME, OKAY. 
          IN FRENCH. 
          SO I THEN ESSENTIALLY HAD TO MEMORIZE THIS WHOLE SPEECH . 
          AND THEN YOU WANT TO KNOW WHETHER YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE INFLECTIONS. 
          YOU CAN TELL IF SOMEBODY FROM ALABAMA OR, OR FROM NEW YORK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WELL, IT ALL COMES THROUGH IF YOU GOT A, IF YOU, YOU, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A KIND 
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OF SPEECH IMPEDIMENT OR WHATEVER. 
          SO I GET UP THERE AND THEN FIND OUT THAT, UH, WHAT IS IT, UH, THAT C NOT C, CNN, BUT THE, THE OTHER ONE THAT'S, UH, DOES A BROADCAST. 
          THEY WERE FILMING THIS THING . 
          AND, UH, SO I GOT THE SPEECH OUT, DID IT, CAME THROUGH. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND, UH, MS. HANSEY WAS IN THERE. 
          SHE KNEW WHEN I STOPPED. 
          AND THEN SHE STARTED CLAPPING AND EVERYBODY ELSE STARTED CLAPPING . 
          AND, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, I WAS, TO ME, IT WAS ONE OF THE, IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT MOMENT IN MY LIFE, UH, TO DO THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND SO THEN THE MINISTER GETS UP AND SHE GIVES A SPEECH IN ENGLISH, OKAY? THE COMPLIMENT TO ME FROM MISS YANCY AND SOME OF THE OTHERS WAS MY FRENCH WAS BETTER, HER ENGLISH . 
          AND, UH, I ALWAYS REMEMBERED THAT IT'S LIKE BEING IN THE TRENCH WITH SOMEBODY. 
          SHE'S OVER AT THE HOUSE PRACTICING, NO, NO, NO, IT'S, YOU GOTTA DO THIS. 
          AND I'M IN FRENCH, YOU KNOW, THEY, A LOT OF THE WORDS, THEY DON'T, UH, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY 'EM OUT LOUD, THEY SPELL 'EM ONE WAY AND YOU SAY 'EM OUT LOUD, THE LAST LETTER IS MM-HMM . 
          THEY DON'T USE IT. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE A THING, UM, LIAISON WHERE TWO WORDS IN, UH, FRENCH, YOU BLEND THEM INTO ONE WORD, AND IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO END WITH A, UH, A VALVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, AND SO I HAD THIS, I HAD THIS INTENSE LESSON FOR MONTHS WHEN I GAVE A SPEECH. 
          AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT SHE WAS QUITE A LADY. 
          AND THEN EVERY TIME WE HAVE THE, UH, THE CELEBRATION ON THE 19TH, 10 DAYS, AND, UH, SHE WAS, UH, LIKE THE, I THOUGHT IT WAS UNOFFICIAL, BUT SHE WAS ACTUALLY AN OFFICIAL, SHE WAS, UH, COUNCIL COUNSELOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT HERE, FRENCH COUNCIL. 
          AND, UM, AND SO SHE WAS REAL PROUD OF THAT, AND SHE WAS REAL PROUD OF HER SON AND REAL PROUD OF YORKTOWN. 
          SO IT WAS QUITE A LADY. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, I SAW HER NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          AND, AND, UH, JUST, I'M GONNA MISS HER. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          SO I JUMPED ON A CHAIRLIFT LAST WEEK BECAUSE I HAPPENED TO BE IN EUROPE SKIING, AND THE SKI INSTRUCTOR JUMPED ON NEXT TO ME, AND HE WAS FRENCH. 
          AND SO MY DAUGHTER AND MY SON AND MY, AND MYSELF ALL CONVERSING WITH FRENCH. 
          AND HE WOULD CORRECT ME EVERY TIME I SPOKE . 
          SO I CAN RELATE TO THAT , THEY ALWAYS DID SOUTHERN BOY TOUGH. 
          I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          I THOUGHT THE, UH, YORK ON ADMIRALS GAME LAST WEEK. 
          HUGE SUCCESS. 
          UH, A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS COMING IN. 
          AND WE OWE, UH, WE OWE OUR STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON PULLING OFF A TREMENDOUS EVENT. 
          THEY EVEN HAD MR. SHEPHERD OUT THERE DROPPING THE PUCK AS LEAD REFEREE, SOUTHERN BOY, DROPPING A ICE PUCK. 
          YEAH, I MISSED IT. 
          . 
          AND THEY HAD THE SHERIFF AND THEY, YOU KNOW, DEPUTIES AND THE FIREFIGHTERS E YEP. 
          IT WAS A GOOD DRUM. 
          YEAH, THE PIPING DRUM DID A, DID A SONG. 
          IT WAS REALLY GOOD. 
          SO MY LAST, UH, ITEM, UH, YOU KNOW, AT OUR, AT OUR BOARD RETREAT IN JANUARY, WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSE SPILLS 8 0 4 AND EIGHT 16, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE MORPHED INTO THIS, UH, SENATE OF BILL 4 54. 
          UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, SENATE BILL 1263, WHICH WAS THE ARBITRATION AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BILLS. 
          YOU KNOW, I DID, I DID JUST ON A BRIEF CALCULATION ON WHAT THE IMPACT OF THOSE TWO BILLS ALONE WOULD BE. 
          AND IT'S 25 CENTS PROPERTY TAX, 25 CENTS JUST TO COVER THE COST OF THOSE TWO BILLS. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WORSE THAN LUDICROUS. 
          IT'S LUDICROUS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S WORSE THAN LUDICROUS. 
          UM, SO I, I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. 
          UH, CLEARLY WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          I SUGGESTED LAST MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, A BUILDING FEE FOR HIGH DENSITY BUILDING. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ADDING THAT TO THE COST. 
          NO DIFFERENT THAN A SEWER CONNECTION, BUT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND MOVING THAT QUICKLY. 
          I JUST WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE WE GET HIT WITH A BUNCH OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING BY RIGHT, UH, PROVISIONS COMING THROUGH AND INFRASTRUCTURE FEES. 
          AND, UM, I GUESS THE OTHER POINT I'D MAKE, AND I KNOW OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE IT, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT DEVELOPING A RESOLUTION FOR, FOR THREE TOPICS. 
          ONE OF THEM IS THE HOUSING TOPIC, SENATE BILL 4 54. 
          ONE IS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BILL, 1263. 
          THE THIRD ONE IS CLEARLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTS OF THE REDISTRICTING. 
          THEN WE'VE SEEN IT, WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF COUNTIES NOW PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION ON THAT WITH THE BOARD'S CONCURRENCE. 
          I'D LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A RESOLUTION ON THOSE THREE TOPICS AND BRING IT BACK FOR OUR MARCH 17TH MEETING. 
          AND, UH, THREE RESOLUTIONS. 
          THREE RESOLUTIONS, YES. 
          AND, AND WE'LL VOTE ON IT AS, AS A GROUP, BUT I, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD. 
          I THINK THE, I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY TO STEP FORWARD AND SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. 
          WE NEED, WE NEED TO, UH, TO BE VERY CLEAR, THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THOSE ACTIONS. 
          SO THIS IS YEAR TO DO IT. 
          OKAY? YEP. 
          YES. 
          WELL, AS YOU, YOU GUYS WILL KNOW, YOU WANTED TO SAY YOU ARE NOT 
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IN SUPPORT OF, NOT IN SUPPORT OF, NOT IN SUPPORT OF, I UNDERSTAND THE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES, OKAY, BUT I'M NEVER GONNA SUPPORT RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS. 
          UH, THERE'S, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS I DON'T WANT THIS, I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OR NOT A PART OF, BUT I LOOK AT THIS BOARD IS FOCUS. 
          WHAT IS ITS FOCUS? LOOK, UM, IS IT GOING TO BE, IS IT GOING TO BE A FOCUS THAT, UH, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THAT WE REPRESENT EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY, UM, LIKE IT OR NOT? UH, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT US ARE UP THERE. 
          OKAY? THE WAY WE EFFECTIVELY AFFECT THESE THINGS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS CALLING UP THERE AND, UH, AND, AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          BUT THESE KIND OF ACTIONS TO ME IS, I'VE SEEN IT WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT. 
          THAT WAS THE ONE THAT CAME THROUGH. 
          EXCUSE ME, MY THROAT'S KIND OF DRIED UP. 
          UM, AND WHAT I DID, AND WE, I WASN'T GONNA SUPPORT IT THEN. 
          I WASN'T GONNA SUPPORT THAT. 
          ALTHOUGH I'M A MEMBER OF THE LAFAYETTE GUN CLUB, I OWN GUNS ALL MY LIFE, AND I'M A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF, OF THAT, AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY WEAPONS. 
          I, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, IF, UH, IF IT, IT'S LOCAL VERSUS STATE VERSUS FEDERAL, WHICH ONE OF THESE THINGS, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? OKAY? WHY AREN'T WE WRITING THE RESOLUTIONS, UH, FOR THE FEDERAL ASPECTS? BECAUSE SOME OF THAT IS ACTUALLY MORE ODIOUS THAN WHAT THE STATE'S DOING. 
          OKAY? AND YES, I AGREE. 
          THIS, I DON'T, YOU HEARD MY CONCERNS THAT MAY HAVE VOICED MY CONCERNS ABOUT THESE UNFUNDED MANDATES AND EVERY FOR, FOR, WELL, LITERALLY FOR DECADES. 
          UM, AND SO I TRY TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE WHAT OUR JOB IS. 
          OKAY? AND, AND SO MY FEELING IS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS BOARD, THIS BECOME A POLITICAL WHIPPING BOARD, OKAY? IN OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE COME UP HERE WITH A BRIGHT IDEA AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE STAND. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THIS BUILDING SURROUNDED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD OR MEMBER OF THE PITCHFORK RALLY. 
          REMEMBER THAT? ALL THE OYSTERS AND FARMING, OKAY? AND I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER ALL THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND THAT WAS STUFF THAT WE AFFECTED HERE WE COULD AFFECT HERE. 
          BUT I WASN'T GONNA SEND A NOTE TO THE STATE, TO, UH, OR A RESOLUTION TO THE STATE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE REPRESENT, WE REPRESENT EVERYBODY, NOT JUST, UH, NOT JUST MAYBE A POLITICAL, AS ONE POLITICAL ASPECT OF IT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS WHAT IS SAYS VALUE. 
          WHAT IS THIS TRUE VALUE? UM, I REMEMBER MELANIE RAPP, WHEN SHE WAS A DELEGATE, SHE SAID, TOM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GO UP AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE AT GENERAL ASSEMBLY, IF I GOT A DELEGATE IN BATH COUNTY, DOES HE GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WHAT I SAY? NO. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING AT? THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR THEM ARE THE ONES THEY CARE TO HEAR ABOUT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO DEAL WITH OUR DELEGATES, OKAY? AND OUR SENATOR, UH, WE CAN GO TALK TO THE OTHERS, KIND OF GIVE 'EM A SENSE, BUT IT'S OUR DE OUR DELEGATES AND SENATORS. 
          SO WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THIS? THIS IS THIS. 
          YOU CAN SIT AND MAKE THESE RESOLUTIONS ALL YOU WANT. 
          WHAT'S THE VALUE? I CAN'T FIND A VALUE. 
          OKAY, HANG ON, SHEILA. 
          YOU CAN, YOU CAN ATTACK ME LATER HERE, . 
          UM, SO I JUST FIND IT, UH, THAT, THAT THERE'S THIS, YOU KNOW, THE REPRESENTING OF EVERYONE. 
          I'M GONNA BE, I AM GONNA BE A, A, A SUPERVISOR FOR EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY? I, I MAKE THE DECISIONS, I MAKE MY DECISIONS BASED ON THE SAME INFORMATION YOU GET, AND I MAKE IT HERE. 
          OKAY? I DON'T MAKE DECISIONS. 
          UH, DO I WANT TO INFLUENCE, UH, THE STATE? YES. 
          HOW DO I DO IT? I CALL 'EM UP. 
          OKAY? THAT, THAT'S WHAT I DO. 
          I CALL 'EM UP THERE, I TALK TO 'EM, TRY TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. 
          AND SHEILA, YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR AGES, OKAY? THAT YOU THROUGH VACO AND ALL THAT. 
          AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO KIND OF DO THESE THINGS. 
          BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, I JUST HAVE A HAVING AVERSION OF DRAGGING, UM, DRAGGING THESE THINGS WHICH SEEM TO BE MORE POLITICALLY ORIENTED THAN THEY ARE FACTUALLY NEEDED. 
          AND THAT RESULTS, UM, I WELCOME YOUR INPUT. 
          I'M JUST TELLING YOU NOW ON MARCH 17TH, WHEN HE FINISHED, HE, I KNOW, UH, SO ANYWAY, THE REPRESENTATIVE , BUT WHAT I'VE ASKED IS THE STAFF TO PULL FORWARD AND DRAFT A RESOLUTION. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ALSO WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS, IS THAT WE REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          THESE ARE GOING TO AFFECT THEIR LIVES. 
          IF THEY 25 CENTS ON PROPERTY TAX, I HAVE TO SPEAK UP. 
          WELL DO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW. 
          YES. 
          BUT THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT GONNA HAVE ANY EFFECT. 
          I CAN JUST SEE, THAT'S WHY. 
          AND YOU'RE DOING, AND NOW THAT'S WHERE I DISAGREE WITH HERE. 
          YOU SAY NO, BUT YOU SAY 25 CENTS, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT FOR, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          WELL, YOU CAN DO THE CALCULATIONS. 
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YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME UP WITH YOUR FIGURES. 
          I CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND I, AND I GRANT YOU, WHEN YOU, YOU START TALKING TAXES, WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE, OKAY? UM, THE, THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UH, THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, $70 BILLION IN THE WHOLE, WHY AREN'T WE RAISING HELL ABOUT THAT? WHY AREN'T WE SIGNING THESE THINGS OFF THE STATE COMING IN AND TELLING US THAT WE GOTTA ADD FIVE, 5% INCREASE TO, TO THE SALARIES OF ALL OUR EMPLOYEES AS A WAY TO SOLVE, SOLVED THE PROBLEM, A GAP THAT THEY HAVE IN THE, IN THEIR, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH WAS STUPID BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE FIGURED IT OUT BY JUST GIVING THE EMPLOYEES THE MONEY AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT THEN TRACK US DOWN LATER AND THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS FOREVER. 
          SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE IT? SO I'M JUST, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOUR POINT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING UNDERSTAND. 
          THAT'S WHY I, I DON'T DO, SO YOU, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING A FOURTH RESOLUTION FOR THE ADDRESS, THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT ONE'S BEEN AROUND SO LONG. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S, THERE'S, YEAH. 
          I JUST, THIS GUYS, I'M JUST DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA, I JUST WON'T SIGN UP TO IT, OKAY? THANK YOU. 
          GOT IT. 
          THERE IS NO CLOSED MEETING TONIGHT. 
          UM, DON'T WORRY. 
          SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. 
          THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM ON TUESDAY, MARCH 17TH, IN THE BOARD ROOM. 
          IN YOUR CALL MEETING AS AUR RICHARD.
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