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          [Call to Order]
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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE LAST BOARD MEETING OF THE YEAR. 
          THIS IS DECEMBER 16TH ALREADY. 
          I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. 
          ROLL CALL MR. ROY. 
          YES, PRESIDENT MRS. MRS. NOLL? YES. 
          MR. DRURY? PRESENT. 
          MR. ROH? HERE. 
          MR. SHEPHERD. 
          HERE. 
          MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INDICATION. 
          WE HAVE PASTOR DOUG ECKLES FROM THE BETHEL BAPTIST CHURCH, PASTOR DOUG, THANK YOU SUPERVISORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LEAD US IN A WORD OF PRAYER. 
          SO JOIN ME AS WE PRAY. 
          FATHER, WE COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE TONIGHT, PRAISING YOU FOR BEING OUR CREATOR AND OUR SUSTAINER. 
          AS WE COME CLOSER TO THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, WE SEE ALL OF THE LIGHTS THAT ARE AROUND US, AND WE'RE REMINDED THAT YOU ARE THE LIE OF THE WORLD. 
          WE SEE THE GIFTS AND WE'RE REMINDED THAT GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. 
          WE HEAR THE CHRISTMAS CAROLS AND WE ARE REMINDED OF THE ANGELS WHO ANNOUNCED TO THE SHEPHERDS GOOD NEWS OF GREAT JOY THAT SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR THIS SPECIAL SEASON AND FOR ALL THAT IT MEANS TO US TODAY, TONIGHT. 
          FATHER, WE PRAY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF YORK COUNTY THAT THEY'LL EXPERIENCE THE JOY, THE PEACE, THE HOPE, AND THE LOVE THAT CHRISTMAS BRINGS. 
          WE PRAY FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS THAT THEY KEEP US SAFE, THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES WITH SAFETY AND PROTECTION. 
          WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN OUR COUNTY WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY AND ASK YOUR SPECIAL BLESSING ON THEM AND ON THEIR FAMILIES. 
          TONIGHT WE LIFT UP TO YOU THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE IN THIS ROLE. 
          WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM STRENGTH AND COURAGE AND WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE. 
          WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING ON THIS MEETING TONIGHT. 
          FOR EVERYONE WHO WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          WE PRAY THAT THE WORD SPOKEN HERE WILL BE SEASONED WITH GRACE AND WITH TRUTH. 
          MAY OUR ACTIONS IN OUR CONDUCT BE PLEASING AND ACCEPTABLE IN YOUR SIGHT. 
          AS ALWAYS, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS NATION, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, AND THAT YOU WOULD BLESS YORK COUNTY. 
          WE PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          UH, CAITLYN SMITH, WOULD YOU DO IT FOR THE YOUTH COMMISSION PLEASE? EVERYBODY STAND IF YOU CAN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING, AND FOR 
          [1. Service Recognitions: Present service pins to employees for their years of service to York County.]
THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO CALL ON SHERIFF MONTGOMERY. 
          UH, CAPTAIN CHRIS WARD FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GOING TO RECEIVE, UH, A 20 YEAR SERVICE. 
          PEN. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          IT'S MY DISTINCT PRIVILEGE TO GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 20 YEAR CAREER THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING TONIGHT OF CAPTAIN CHRIS WARD. 
          CAPTAIN CHRIS WARD WAS, BECAME EMPLOYED BY THE YORK IAN SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN DECEMBER OF 2005. 
          PREVIOUSLY, HE HAD BEEN EMPLOYED BY THE VIRGINIA MARINE RESOURCES COMMISSION FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND FIVE YEARS WITH THE GLOUCESTER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          SINCE HE'S BEEN WITH THE YORK POCOS SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CAPTAIN WARD HAS BEEN A PATROL DEPUTY, A PATROL SERGEANT, A PATROL LIEUTENANT. 
          HE WAS LIEUTENANT OF THE CANINE DIVISION. 
          HE WAS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM FOR 15 YEARS, AND HE WAS THE COMMANDER OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM. 
          FOR THREE YEARS. 
          SINCE BECOMING CAPTAIN OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, HE SUPERVISES THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, THE DARE CRIME PREVENTION, THE DARE PROGRAM, CRIME PREVENTION, AND HE'S ALSO THE LIAISON TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH IS PROBABLY ONE OF HIS MORE IMPORTANT ROLES BECAUSE HE'S INVOLVED IN THE SECURITY, UH, OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND DEALS WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS ON SECURITY MATTERS. 
          CAPTAIN WARD HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM CHRISTOPHER NEWPORT AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE. 
          HE'S A GRADUATE AT THE PRESTIGIOUS FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY. 
          HE'S MARRIED TO SHELLY WARD, OUR PIO, WHO'S HERE WITH HIM TONIGHT, AND HE'S THE PROUD GRANDFATHER OF PARKER AND HUDSON. 
          SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING CAPTAIN CHRIS WARD ON 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          UH, THE NEXT AWARD IS FOR 25 YEARS OF SERVICE AND MINI CPO, UH, FROM PARKS 
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AND RECREATION WILL PRESENT. 
          MELISSA WILL PRESENT, YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          TODAY WE HONOR MINNIE SIPO, WHOSE 25 YEARS OF SERVICE AND DEDICATION HAVE BEEN MARKED BY JOY, COMPASSION, AND UNFORGETTABLE MOMENTS ROOTED IN SERVICE AND COMMUNITY. 
          MINNIE'S JOURNEY HAS SHAPED THE THE SHAPED THE LEADER SHE IS TODAY. 
          HER VISION AND LEADERSHIP HAVE GUIDED THE CREATION AND GROWTH OF PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE SENIOR CENTER DINING CLUB, THE SENIOR CENTER SAFETY SUMMIT, THE HEALTHY AGING CONFERENCE, AND MANY OTHERS. 
          THROUGH THESE INITIATIVES, MANY HAS NOT ONLY ENRICHED THE LIVES OF OUR SENIORS, BUT HAS STRENGTHENED THE BONDS THAT HOLD OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. 
          OVER THE YEARS, SHE HAS BUILT LASTING PARTNERSHIPS WITH SURROUNDING LOCALITIES, INSPIRING COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE REGION WITH HER COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT. 
          MANY YOU HAVE TOUCHED COUNTLESS LIVES, STRENGTHENED FAMILIES, AND BUILT A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE FEELS SEEN AND VALUED. 
          YOUR ABILITY TO TURN IDEAS INTO LASTING IMPACTS WILL, WILL REMAIN A CORNERSTONE OF YOUR LEGACY. 
          WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST GRATITUDE AND OUR WARMEST CONGRATULATIONS AS YOU EMBARK ON THIS NEW CHAPTER. 
          YOUR SERVICE HAS LEFT AN INDELIBLE MARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND YOUR EXAMPLE WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          AND FINALLY, MINNIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 25 YEARS OF EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE TO YORK COUNTY. 
          MANY, MANY DON'T SIT DOWN. 
          I GOT IT ALL BACKWARDS. 
          AND I HAVE A PIN FOR YOU AND I ALSO DO FOR THE DEPUTY. 
          SO YOU BOTH PLEASE COME BACK UP HERE. 
          LET ME GIVE YOU YOUR PINS. 
          I DON'T HAVE A MICROPHONE ON TONIGHT, SO I'M GONNA STAND CLOSE BY HERE AND JUST SAY THANKS SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE TO THIS COUNTY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES AS LONG AS WE DO, AND I HOPE WE KEEP YOU FOR MANY, MANY MORE YEARS. 
          AND I'VE WORKED WITH MANY AND I'M SO GLAD THAT SHE'S GOT THIS AWARD AND I'M SO GLAD THAT SHE'S STILL HERE. 
          SO THANK YOU BOTH SO VERY MUCH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK. 
          OKAY. 
          YOUR OKAY. 
          AND FOR 30 YEARS, CHIEF BALDMAN WILL PRESENT FOR DAVID J. SMITH. 
          FIRE, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MR. BEMAN AND MR. HILL. 
          LET ME INTRODUCE SENIOR FIREFIGHTER DAVID SMITTY SMITH. 
          DAVID'S BEEN WITH US SINCE, UH, OCTOBER OF 95. 
          MR. PROMOTED TO SENIOR FIREFIGHTER BACK IN, UM, AUGUST OF 2012. 
          DAVID'S CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE BRUTON STATION, THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA, WHERE HE SERVES AS AN OPERATOR ON OUR ON SQUAD THREE. 
          UM, AGAIN, DAVID'S BEEN A VALUED MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT FOR 30 YEARS AND GIVES ME GREAT PRIVILEGE, YOUR HONOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TO INTRODUCE YOU. 
          DAVID'S ALSO REPRESENTED TONIGHT HIS WIFE SHERRY, AND HIS SON CAMERON, HERE WITH HIM ALSO. 
          NOW WE 
          [2. York County Youth Commission Quarterly Report.]
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ARE GOING TO HAVE THE YOUTH COMMISSION QUARTERLY REPORT, AND THAT IS GONNA BE DONE BY JASON CORBETT. 
          JASON, YOU HAVE THE MIC. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS JACOB CORBET AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION PRESENTING TO YOU A REPORT OF OUR ACTIVITIES THIS QUARTER. 
          THE MOTTO OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION IS YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUTH COMMUNITY. 
          WE AIM TO ALWAYS EMBODY THE SPIRIT OF YOUTHFUL SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY AS A COMMISSION. 
          OUR GENERAL PURPOSE IS TO SERVE AS A COMMUNICATIONS LINK BETWEEN THE YOUTH OF YORK COUNTY AND THE GOVERNMENT OF YORK COUNTY. 
          OUR PRIMARY GOALS CENTER AROUND SERVICE, PRIMARILY SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS OF COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT, WE ALSO CONDUCT STUDENT SURVEYS WITH THE INTENTION OF IMPROVING STUDENT LIFE. 
          OUR COMMISSION IS DIVVIED INTO THREE SUBCOMMITTEES AND A LEADERSHIP TEAM. 
          THE DIFFERENT CO THE DIFFERENT, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES ARE THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE, THE SPECIAL PO PROJECTS COMMITTEE, AND THE STUDENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          OUR SUBCOMMITTEES MEET ONCE A MONTH THROUGH OUTSIDE OF REGULAR MEETINGS WHERE WE TAKE THE TIME TO WORK TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENHANCING THE EFFECTIVENESS AND EXPOSURE OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION THROUGH OUR INSTAGRAM PUBLIC SURVEYS AND OTHER YORK COUNTY RESOURCES. 
          THE LEAD, THE CHAIR OF THE, UM, PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE IS EDDIE ZOO. 
          THE SPECIAL PROJECTS COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REACHING OUT FOR SERVICE BUILDING COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTY, AND RESEARCHING VARIOUS VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF OUR JOB AS COMMISSIONERS. 
          THE SPECIAL PROJECTS, UH, CHAIR IS, UH, MCKAYLA. 
          THE STUDENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INDIVIDUALLY COMMUNICATING WITH OUR PEERS IN THE SCHOOLS, SERVING AS THE EFFECTIVE LINK BETWEEN THE YOUTH AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          DONOR BOV IS THE CHAIR OF THE STUDENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          EACH MONTH WE HOLD OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, LEARNING HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, LEARNING ABOUT LEADERSHIP FROM GUEST SPEAKERS, PLANNING FOR OUR VOLUNTEER AND COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, AND DISCUSSING DIFFERENT INITIATIVES. 
          AT OUR ORIENTATION, WE PARTICIPATED IN TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITIES, PREPARING FOR OUR UPCOMING YEAR OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, COOPERATING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR YORK COUNTY COMMUNITY. 
          WE ALSO ATTENDED A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AND A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING DEEPENING OUR ENGAGEMENT AND AWARENESS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          DURING THIS FALL, WE VOLUNTEERED IN THE ANNUAL YORK COUNTY HALLOWEEN BASH AT THE MCREYNOLDS ATHLETIC COMPLEX, INTERACTING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND BENEFITING THE YOUTH THIS QUARTER. 
          WE ALSO ATTENDED THE MAYFLOWER FOOD DRIVE FOR THE PENINSULA FOOD DRIVE AT KROGER, AND WHERE WE ALSO HELPED TO ACCEPT FOOD DONATIONS FROM GENEROUS DONORS, WHICH WE THEN LOADED UP INTO THE TRUCK SO THAT THEY COULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THOSE IN NEED AROUND THE COUNTY. 
          THE 2026 OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD NOMINATIONS WILL OPEN ON DECEMBER 22ND, 2025, AND THEN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF TWO YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ONE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES. 
          THE APPLICATION CAN BE FOUND ON OUR YCYC, INSTAGRAM AND THE YORK COUNTY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PAGE. 
          WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE NOMINATIONS AS THIS UNIQUE REWARD IS EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE FOR COLLEGES, AS WELL AS AN AFFIRMATIVE RECOGNITION OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. 
          THE 2026 TO 2027 YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION APPLICATIONS WILL OPEN ON JANUARY 26TH, 2026, AND WILL BE DUE TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE IN MARCH. 
          THE APPLICATION CAN BE FOUND ON OUR YCYC, INSTAGRAM AND THE YORK COUNTY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PAGE. 
          OUR FUTURE PLANS FOR THE UPCOMING MONTHS INCLUDE VOLUNTEERING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE VIRGINIA LIVING MUSEUM, CREATING AND SENDING STUDENT SURVEYS TO ALL YORK COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, HOSTING OUR TOWN HALL MEETING IN APRIL, AND WORKING WITH STUDENTS, THE BOARD ORDER SUPERVISORS, AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
          WE'LL REMAIN ACTIVE IN SEEKING WAYS TO BE, UH, VERY, VERY ACTIVE AND BENEFICIAL IN OUR LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS. 
          AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING THE CONCERNS OF OUR YOUTH AND STUDENT CONSTITUENTS TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES. 
          FINALLY, THE COMMISSION IS PARTICIPATING IN THE ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAM, AND WE WILL BE CLEANING UP GOOD WIND NECK ROAD . 
          FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE REFER TO THE YCYC, INSTAGRAM OR THE YORK COUNTY WEBSITE. 
          I WILL NOW WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, UH, FOR WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          IT'S AWESOME. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          MR. ROWAN HAS, SO THANK YOU MR. CORBETT. 
          I TRUST YOUR MENT WELL, LAST NIGHT. 
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UH, YES, SIR. 
          . 
          VERY GOOD. 
          UM, TELL ME, WHAT IS THE YOUTH COMMISSION DOING TO PROMOTE AND ADVERTISE THE, THE YOUTH AWARDS AS WELL AS, UM, APP APPLICATIONS FOR NEXT SESSIONS? SO WHAT WE DO IS WE, UM, WE'LL HAVE SEND AN EMAIL OUT ALL TO ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, UM, TO THE PRINCIPALS AND TO THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THE STUDENTS. 
          THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE FINDING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCELLING WELL IN THE GOVERNMENT CLASSES, EXCELLING WELL, UM, JUST OVERALL GPA CLASS RANK. 
          UM, AND THEY'LL KIND OF REACH OUT TO THOSE STUDENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE INTERESTED, UM, AND KIND OF RECOMMENDING THAT. 
          IT ALSO GETS POSTED ON THE CANVAS PAGES, UM, AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT SECTION, AND IT SAYS LIKE, THE, YOUR COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION APPLICATIONS ARE NOW OPEN. 
          UM, AND THEN OURSELVES, WE JUST WILL GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO GO OUT INTO THE SCHOOLS. 
          WE JUST TRY TO TALK TO PEOPLE WE THINK WOULD BE INTERESTED YOU OR MAYBE WOULD BE, UH, A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR IT TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE TO APPLY BECAUSE IT'S A, A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH, GOOD. 
          'CAUSE THAT ONE-ON-ONE NETWORKING IS HUGE. 
          SO THE MORE Y'ALL COULD DO THAT, THE, THE BETTER. 
          AND ANY PARENTS IN THE AUDIENCE OR WATCHING ON TV, UH, IF YOUR YOUR CHILD IS IN THE RIGHT POSITION IN, IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS OR HOMESCHOOL, UH, PLEASE CONSIDER, UM, GETTING THEM TO APPLY FOR BOTH THE, THE AWARDS AND OR, UH, NEXT YEAR'S, UH, YOUTH COMMISSION. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN IN THAT COMMISSION. 
          UH, LAST NIGHT, THE COMMISSION HAD, UM, FORMER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WHO ARE IN COLLEGE NOW COME AND SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND KIND OF SPEAK TO HOW THEIR TIME HAS SERVED THEM WELL AS THEY MOVE FORWARD IN, INTO COLLEGE. 
          SO IT'S A VERY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MR. CORBERT, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, JUDGE JASON, UH, HARD TO BELIEVE YOUR TERMS. HARD TO BELIEVE YOUR TERMS HALF OVER. 
          UM, , I BELONG TO QANTAS, UH, CLUB IN WILLIAMSBURG, AND WE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO ROADS THAT WE, UH, SERVE, UH, FOR ADOPT A HIGHWAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE LOTS OF PRECAUTIONS. 
          BEFORE YOU DO THAT. 
          MAKE SURE THERE'S CONES UP. 
          MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALL IN SAFETY VESTS. 
          MAKE SURE YOU THINK THROUGH THE SAFETY ASPECTS. 
          GOODWIN NECK CAN BE A PRETTY BUSY ROAD. 
          I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE ANY INJURIES ALONG THERE, SO THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WE'LL BE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, GETTING ALL THE EQUIPMENT TO, UH, STAY SAFE ON THE ROAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, WAYNE, THANK YOU JASON, FOR THE REPORT. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, YOUTH COMMISSION. 
          AND, UH, YOU GUYS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. 
          AND YOU MIGHT BE SITTING UP HERE AT THE DIOCESE ONE DAY AND MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE COUNTY, OR MAYBE THE STATE, OR MAYBE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          SO KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. 
          THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT. 
          AND I WANNA THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE YOUTH COMMISSION FOR ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATING IN IT, BECAUSE OUR LIVES AS A PARTICIPATORY LIFE, AND WE NEED MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED, AND YOU COULD LEAD THE WAY. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          AND MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          [3. Virginia Peninsula Foodbank: Presentation by Megan Grigorian, Communications, Marketing, and Advocacy Manager.]
THE NEXT, UH, PRESENTATION WILL BE ABOUT THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK AND SHERRY NEWCOMB, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE MEGAN IAN, VOLUNTEER CHAIRMAN, COORDINATOR AT THE FOOD BANK? AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR HAND. 
          YES. 
          HEY, MEGAN. 
          I WAS REALLY WORRIED THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MEGAN. 
          MEGAN IS WITH THE, UH, PENINSULA FOOD BANK, AND, UM, SHE, UM, HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER THERE AND A COORDINATOR THERE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. 
          AM I CORRECT? SO, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I WILL, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, UHHUH. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING THE FOOD BANK TO, TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW IT'S A PACKED AGENDA, SO I WILL KEEP THINGS AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS MEGAN GREGORIAN, AND, UM, I'M CURRENTLY THE COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING AND ADVOCACY MANAGER FOR THE FOOD BANK. 
          I WAS IN THE VOLUNTEER POSITION, BUT NOW I STILL HAVE MY HAND IN THAT. 
          BUT I'VE MOVED INTO A MORE OF A COMMUNICATIONS ROLE. 
          ESSENTIALLY, IT'S MY JOB TO ENSURE THAT THE STORY OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY AND THE WORK OF THE FOOD BANK IS TOLD AND KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          I ALSO GREW UP IN NEW YORKTOWN, AND I'M A PROUD 2004 GRADUATE OF GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL GO CLIPPERS. 
          SO I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          . 
          UM, WE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TONIGHT, UH, TO EXPLAIN THE GROWING NEED FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE IN YORK COUNTY. 
          UM, BUT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A $100,000 INVESTMENT 
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IN THE FOOD BANK'S WORK. 
          AND SO WE ARE IMMEASURABLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT INVESTMENT, AND THIS WILL HELP SUPPORT OUR PROGRAMS AND ENABLE US TO HAVE A LARGER PRESENCE IN YORK COUNTY TO MEET THE NEED OF, UH, RESIDENTS. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON WHAT THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT IS SUPPORTING THROUGH THE FOOD BANK'S WORK. 
          THE MISSION OF THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK IS TO DISTRIBUTE FOOD EFFECTIVELY THROUGH COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS THAT MINIMIZE HUNGER, PROMOTE NUTRITION, AND ENCOURAGE SELF-RELIANCE THROUGH EDUCATION. 
          OUR VISION IS TO INSPIRE HOPE BY LEADING THE EFFORT FOR A HUNGER FREE AND PROPERLY NOURISHED COMMUNITY. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE THIS IS A MAP OF ALL OF THE NINE COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE. 
          WE GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO SURREY HAMPTON, NEWPORT NEWS POCOS, UM, YORK, JAMES, CITY COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND GLOUCESTER MATTHEWS. 
          I WANNA EXPLAIN THE, THE MEANING OF FOOD INSECURITY. 
          YOU'LL HEAR US SAY THAT A LOT, AND IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE TERM HUNGRY. 
          SOME OF US MIGHT BE HUNGRY RIGHT NOW IF WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD DINNER YET. 
          FOOD INSECURITY IS MORE ABOUT A LACK OF RESOURCES NEEDED TO NOURISH YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE. 
          WE, UH, WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE NAVIGATING RECEIVING FOOD IN ASSISTANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD A LARGE, UNEXPECTED MEDICAL BILL, A A JOB LOSS, UM, PEOPLE WHO NEVER, WHO NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD NEED FOOD ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, WE SPEAK TO THOSE FAMILIES QUITE OFTEN. 
          AND SO FOOD INSECURITY CAN REALLY TOUCH ANYONE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MEANING BEHIND THAT TERM YOU'LL HEAR. 
          SO, OVER 70,000 PEOPLE ON THE PENINSULA ARE CLASSIFIED AS FOOD INSECURE. 
          UM, A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE SERVE ARE CHILDREN, AND ABOUT 23% ARE SENIORS. 
          NOW, IN YORKTOWN, OR SORRY, IN YORK COUNTY, ABOUT 11.3% OF RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY AT ANY GIVEN TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S ONE IN NINE PEOPLE, OR TO BE EXACT 7,080 PEOPLE. 
          THE REASON THIS IS ALARMING WAS ALARMING TO US IS BECAUSE IN 2 20 23, THE NUMBER OF FOOD INSECURE INDIVIDUALS WAS 4,130, MEANING THERE'S BEEN ABOUT A 71% INCREASE IN TWO YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. 
          AND WE WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE. 
          SIMILARLY, ABOUT 1,870 CHILDREN EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY IN YORK COUNTY THAT IS UP FROM 860 IN 2023. 
          AND SO THAT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE AL ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO NOURISHING MEALS. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, UM, CRITERIA FOR FOOD INSECURITY CLASSIFICATION? YEAH, SO WE GET THIS DATA FROM MAP THE MEAL GAP, WHICH IS A NATIONAL, UM, UH, DATA RESOURCE THAT WE USE FROM OUR, UH, PARENT, UH, ORGANIZATION FEEDING AMERICA. 
          SO THEY LOOK AT, UM, COST OF LIVING INCREASES, WAGES. 
          UH, THEY, THEY ANALYZE, UH, FOOD ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, AND SO THEY, THEY, THEY SEND OUT THAT DATA NATIONALLY AND BREAK IT DOWN FOR LOCAL DISTRICTS AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          OF COURSE. 
          SO, I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THE PROGRAMS THAT THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INVESTMENT WILL, WILL GO TOWARDS. 
          SO, OUR CHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS, WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT SUPPORT, UH, CHILDHOOD FOOD INSECURITY. 
          ONE BEING THE FOOD FOR KIDS BACKPACK PROGRAM. 
          THIS PROVIDES WEEKEND MEALS TO CHILDREN WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE GUARANTEED FOOD AT HOME. 
          SO EVERY, UM, THE FOOD BANK PACKS, UH, USES VOLUNTEERS TO PACK UP 1500 BAGS OF FOOD. 
          UM, WE HAVE FOOD NUTRITIONISTS ON STAFF THAT ENSURE THAT THIS FOOD IS NOT, IS, IS DEFINITELY HEALTHY AND NOURISHING, BUT ALSO FOOD THAT KIDS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY EAT. 
          AND SO THIS IS DISTRIBUTED TO 1500 BAGS THROUGHOUT THE PENINSULA, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SIX, SIX SCHOOLS IN NEW YORK COUNTY THAT CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE KIDS CAFE PROGRAM. 
          THIS PROVIDES EVENING MEALS AT PARTICIPATING SCHOOLS AND NONPROFITS, UM, YMCA'S AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. OUR LIN, WE HAVE, UM, A CULINARY TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          THOSE STUDENTS PREP 500 MEALS DAILY. 
          THOSE ARE SNACKS AND SUPPERS THAT GO TO THESE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE REACHING THESE KIDS DURING THE SUMMER. 
          SO WE HAVE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. 
          THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE ARE ALSO PREPARED BY OUR CULINARY STUDENTS. 
          AND THOSE ARE GIVEN TO YMCA'S CAMPS, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE, UM, THAT OVERSEE THE, THESE, THESE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, ALSO, WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS UPPED OUR INVESTMENT IN PRODUCE FRESH PRODUCE. 
          SO, UM, WE TAKE SCHOOL PRODUCE MARKETS, AND WE SET THOSE UP AT LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS SO THE KIDS CAN PICK THEIR OWN PRODUCE. 
          AND THAT COMES WITH ALSO NUTRITION EDUCATION, STARTING EARLY TO, TO EDUCATE CHILDREN ON 
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WHAT IT TAKES TO, TO STAY HEALTHY, TO TO STAY ACTIVE, AND, UM, GETS THEM INVESTMENT, GETS THEM INVESTED IN THEIR OWN MEALS AS WELL. 
          OUR MOBILE FOOD PANTRY PROGRAM, SO THIS IS WHERE WE TAKE FOOD DIRECTLY OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES. 
          SO WE HAVE SITES ALL THROUGHOUT THE PENINSULA, INCLUDING YORKTOWN, UM, WHERE WE BRING FRESH PRODUCE, UM, BOXES OF NON-PERISHABLE FOOD ITEMS, PROTEINS, EGGS, DAIRY. 
          AND WE GIVE THAT OUT AT WHAT WE CALL A MOBILE FOOD PANTRY DISTRIBUTION. 
          VOLUNTEERS HELP US WITH ALL OF THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THIS SATURDAY AT COASTAL COMMUNITY CHURCH, THEY DO THAT EVERY MONTH. 
          THEY USE FOOD PROVIDED BY THE FOOD BANK, AND THEY RUN THAT DISTRIBUTION. 
          SO THAT WILL BE THIS SATURDAY. 
          UM, IN YORKTOWN, THIS IS A KEY AVENUE FOR US FOR PRODUCE DISTRIBUTION, ESPECIALLY OVER THE SUMMER, WE WERE HANDING OUT CORN ON THE COB, WATERMELONS, AVOCADOS, UH, BERRIES, UH, INCLUDING STAPLES LIKE POTATOES, UH, ROOT VEGETABLES, CARROTS. 
          UM, YOU'LL, WE'LL, ALSO, WE ALSO HOLD POPUP DISTRIBUTIONS DEPENDING ON WHERE THE NEED IS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN OCTOBER DURING THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, WE HELD SEVERAL POPUP DISTRIBUTIONS TO MAKE SURE WE WERE TARGETING PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED BY, UM, BY THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. 
          SO WE, WE HOSTED ONE ON LANGLEY. 
          WE DID A COAST GUARD ONE FOR THE COAST GUARD, UM, TSA, WE DID ONE AT NEWPORT NEWS AIRPORT FOR TSA WORKERS. 
          SO, UM, WE, WHEN, WHENEVER THERE'S AN EMERGENCY LIKE THAT, OR A DISRUPTION TO DAILY LIFE, FOOD BANKS ARE OFTEN CALLED TO THE FRONT LINES TO MEET THOSE INCREASED NEEDS. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. 
          IN OCTOBER. 
          WE WERE SEEING ABOUT A 20 TO 30% INCREASE, NOT ONLY IN OUR OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE FOOD BANK FOR EMERGENCY FOOD ASSISTANCE, BUT THROUGH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OUR CULINARY TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          WE ARE THE ONLY, UM, FOOD BANK IN VIRGINIA THAT HAS THIS. 
          WE HAVE A FULL INDUSTRIAL KITCHEN IN THE FOOD BANK. 
          THIS IS A 12 WEEK FREE, UH, JOB AND LIFE SKILLS TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF IT. 
          IT'S HAD QUITE A BIT OF OF SUCCESS. 
          UH, ON THURSDAY, WE'LL BE CELEBRATING OUR 55TH GRADUATING CLASS. 
          AND THESE ARE FOLKS THAT GO THROUGH A VERY RIGOROUS, UM, 12 WEEK, UH, NOT, NOT ONLY TRAINING FOR, UM, FOR THE CULINARY ARTS, BUT, UH, JOB AND LIFE SKILLS TRAINING, HOW TO BUILD A RESUME, HOW TO, HOW TO WORK WITH, WITH MANAGEMENT, WORK WITH PEOPLE, UM, FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING. 
          SO THAT IS ALL INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THESE STUDENTS ARE ALSO GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BY PREPARING THE DAILY MEALS FOR CHILDREN. 
          UM, PREPARING THE MEALS FOR OUR SUMMER FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM. 
          UM, THE LAST GRADUATING CLASS, THE 54TH CLASS, WE'VE HEARD FROM, UM, EACH OF THE GRADUATES AND EVERYONE SECURED EMPLOYMENT AFTER GRADUATION. 
          SO IT HAS, PEOPLE HAVE GONE ON TO START THEIR OWN FOOD TRUCKS, THEIR OWN CATERING COMPANIES. 
          WE'VE HAD PAST GRADUATES COME IN AND SPEAK TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM WHEN YOU TAKE, WHEN THEY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF OUR FLAGSHIP PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, UH, PARTNER AGENCY DISTRIBUTION. 
          SO WE HAVE OVER 120 PARTNER AGENCIES, AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GROW THE, THE PRESENCE IN YORK COUNTY, UM, MORE THAN 75% OF THE FOOD THAT THE FOOD BANK TAKES IN AND ORDERS AND RECEIVES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS DISTRIBUTED THROUGH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          THEY ENSURE THAT EVERY POCKET OF THE PENINSULA IS SERVING THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND SO EVERYONE WHO EXPERIENCES FOOD INSECURITY HAS ACCESS TO, TO THE FOOD THEY NEED TO STAY HEALTHY. 
          CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ABOUT SIX PARTNER AGENCIES IN YORK COUNTY. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO, UM, HAVE MORE INVESTMENT THERE TO GROW ABOUT TWO OR THREE A YEAR, UM, UNTIL WE ARE AT CAPACITY AND SERVING THE, SERVING EVERYONE WHO, WHO NEEDS FOOD ASSISTANCE. 
          SO, PARTNER AGENCIES COME TO OUR WAREHOUSE DAILY, PICK UP THE FOOD THEY NEED. 
          THESE ARE FOOD PANTRIES, HOMELESS SHELTERS, UM, CHURCH MINISTRIES THAT SERVE COMMUNITY DINNERS. 
          THEY PICK UP THE FOOD THEY NEED, THEY PLACE ORDERS WITH US. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY, THEY GO BACK TO THEIR, UM, THEIR FACILITIES AND SERVE, SERVE THE FOOD OR DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD. 
          JUST REAL QUICKLY, SOME OTHER PROGRAMS. SO THESE ARE SOME FEDERAL PROGRAMS WE, WE DO AT OUR FOOD BANK. 
          UM, COMMODITY SUPPLEMENTAL FOOD PROGRAM, CSFP, AND THE EMERGENCY FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, TFA P. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, UH, PROGRAMS THAT HELP SENIORS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE BRING, UM, SENIORS THEIR FOOD DIRECTLY, PEOPLE WHO ARE ENROLLED IN, UM, LOW INCOME SENIOR PROGRAM. 
          UM, AT THE FOOD BANK. 
          WE BRING, UM, JUST LIKE A MOBILE FOOD PANTRY, EXCEPT WE'RE TAKING IT DIRECTLY TO THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND DISTRIBUTING IT. 
          THAT FOOD IS GONNA BE MORE HEART, HEALTHY FOOD, LOW SODIUM FOOD THAT'S DESIGNED MORE FOR SENIORS NEEDS. 
          WE HAVE HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH INITIATIVES, UM, AT THE FOOD BANK AS WELL. 
          UM, WE JUST OPENED A COMMUNITY PANTRY, A COMMUNITY FOOD PANTRY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SENTARA IN, IN JANUARY THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON HEALTHY FOOD. 
          UH, FOOD INSECURITY AND, AND HEALTH PROBLEMS CAN, CAN GO HAND IN HAND. 
          SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE AT SENTARA AND, AND DOCTORS REFER 
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THEM TO OUR SERVICES, THEY CAN, THEY CAN, AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE THE HOSPITAL, PICK UP THE FOOD THEY NEED AT THE COMMUNITY FOOD PANTRY. 
          UM, AND THAT, AND WE, WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE ARE WELL-NOURISHED AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR NEXT MEAL AND, AND HAVE ACCESS TO PROTEINS, FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, AND NOT OFTEN THE, THE PROCESSED CHEAPER ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE, UM, THAT PREVENTS ALSO LONGER TERM HEALTH PROBLEMS. AND OUR NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR PROGRAM IS A FOOD RESCUE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE WORK WITH LOCAL GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS TO, TO RESCUE FOOD THAT THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SELL, BUT THAT IS STILL GOOD TO EAT. 
          AND SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND JUST TO, UM, I WAS SO, SO GLAD TO SEE THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION HERE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD FRIENDS AT THE FOOD BANK. 
          UM, THEY MENTIONED THE MAYFLOWER MARATHON. 
          THESE ARE PHOTOS FROM FROM NOVEMBER. 
          UM, WE, WE ALWAYS SAY AT THE FOOD BANK, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ALONE. 
          COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND, UH, VOLUNTEER SUPPORT PARTNERSHIPS FROM CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS, IS HOW WE'RE ABLE TO MEET, TO MEET THE NEED OF, OF FOLKS EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY. 
          AND SO THERE'S JUST A, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO, TO SUPPORT THE FOOD BANK. 
          UM, SHARING THE STORY OF, OF THIS DATA AND OF NEIGHBORS, UM, TO, TO, TO NETWORKS, TO, UM, YOUR LOCAL GROUPS, CHURCHES, UM, SORORITIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          FOOD DRIVES. 
          WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOOD DRIVES. 
          THAT'S THE BULK OF THE FOOD THAT WE DISTRIBUTE TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. 
          UM, AND THEN VOLUNTEERING. 
          WE HAD 30,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS LAST YEAR, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 13 TO 14 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT KIND OF SUPPORT, WE'RE ABLE TO TURN FOOD AROUND VERY QUICKLY AND TO GET IT DISTRIBUTED, DISTRIBUTED FAST. 
          AND I JUST PUT THIS NOTE THAT EVERY DOLLAR WE RECEIVE EQUATES TO ABOUT THREE MEALS WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE. 
          SO WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INVESTMENT, THAT'S, THAT IN TURN EQUALS 300,000 MEALS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. 
          AND WE WE'RE, UM, IN 2025, WE'RE UP TO ABOUT 9 MILLION MEALS THAT WE'VE DISTRIBUTED SO FAR. 
          SO, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE AT THE FOOD BANK FOR THIS SUPPORT. 
          IT WILL GO A LONG WAY. 
          AND, AND WE WANNA KEEP YOU ALL POSTED OF THE PROGRESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOW. 
          AND ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SO SORRY, . 
          ANY QUESTIONS, JOHN? YEAH. 
          HOW DID THE, UH, SNAP, UH, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN, HOW DID THE SNAP, THE LACK OF THE SNAP PROGRAM AFFECT YOU GUYS? YES, QUITE A BIT. 
          SO THAT IS A BIG FACTOR OF WHY WE SAW A 20 TO 30% INCREASE. 
          SO, UM, SNAP, THE WAY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN THIS IS THE DOLLAR GO. 
          SO FOR EV SNAP CAN PROVIDE ABOUT NINE MEALS FOR EVERY ONE MEAL THAT THE FOOD BANK CAN PROVIDE. 
          SO THAT'S WITH THE, THE AMOUNT THAT SNAP DISTRIBUTES. 
          SO WHEN THAT, WHEN THOSE, UM, RESOURCES GO AWAY, THE FIRST COURSE OF ACTION IS TURNING TO THE FOOD BANK OFTEN. 
          SO WE SAW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MORE FOOD THAT THE FOOD BANK NEEDED TO PURCHASE, AND THAT'S MORE FOOD THAT WE NEEDED TO DISTRIBUTE TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES AND OUT OUR MOBILE FOOD PANTRIES. 
          I KNOW UNLIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HAMPTON COLISEUM IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST, UM, UH, MOBILE FOOD PANTRIES. 
          IT'S EVERY, EVERY, UH, FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          AND IT, IT STARTS AT 10. 
          AND WE NORMALLY HAVE PEOPLE LINING UP AROUND, YOU KNOW, EIGHT O'CLOCK, SEVEN 30, AND WE HAD PEOPLE AT 4:00 AM UM, DURING THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN START TO LINE UP. 
          SO WE SAW A, WE SAW A HUGE INCREASE. 
          SO, SO WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, YES, , I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN EXACT AMOUNT ON THAT. 
          WELL, I REMEMBER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAD, YOU WERE BUDGETING FOR LIKE 12 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          $12 MILLION WORTH OF FOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE, SO WE'VE RECEIVED, SO I THINK I MENTIONED, SO THAT'S 9 MILLION MEALS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED. 
          YES. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S AROUND THE 12 MILLION, 12 TO $15 MILLION. 
          I WOULD JUST HAVE TO, I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUYING SOME OF THE FOOD AND SOME OF THE FOOD'S BEING GIVEN TO YOU, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE, WE, UM, WE, SO FOOD DONATIONS DONE VIA FOOD DRIVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S A LARGE PART OF THE FOOD WE GET IN, UH, FEDERAL PROGRAMS LIKE THE EMERGENCY FOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE CSFP FOR SENIORS ARE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE RECEIVE. 
          NOW. 
          THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE ALSO BEEN CUT, UM, FROM, UH, EARLY JANUARY. 
          SO WE HAVE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S FOOD, THAT'S LESS FOOD THAN WE COULD GIVE OUT THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE MAKE UP THROUGH PURCHASING. 
          WHAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL TYPE OF FOOD THAT YOU NEED? UH, PEOPLE HAVE TO BRING FOOD IN. 
          I KNOW YOU CAN GET CANS OF THIS AND THAT, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL PART? YEAH, SO HIGH FIBER, REALLY NUTRITIOUS FOOD THAT, UM, SO FOR PEOPLE WHO DONATE, WE LIKE TO GET DRIED PASTAS, 
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DRIED BEANS, LEGUMES, UM, WHEN YOU DONATE CANS, POP TOPS, JUST FOR MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE IN CASE, YOU KNOW, FOR UNHOUSED FOLKS WHO, WHO, WHO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM THE FOOD BANK THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO EAT AS WELL. 
          UM, THE MAYFLOWER MARATHON IN PARTICULAR, THE LARGEST FOOD DRIVE WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE WERE REALLY ASKING FOR FROZEN PROTEINS. 
          THAT'S A KIND OF HIGH, THAT'S WHAT WE SPEND THE MOST MONEY ON, WOULD BE FROZEN PROTEINS, WHAT WOULD BE EXAMPLE OF FROZEN PROTEIN, FROZEN TURKEYS, UM, UH, FROZEN HAMS, UH, UH, THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          WE ALSO, UM, CANNED PROTEINS IS ALSO VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, CANNED TUNA. 
          YES, EXACTLY. 
          SO YOU CAN BRING, WE PEOPLE CAN BRING IN FROZEN STUFF YES. 
          AND YOU CAN HANDLE IT. 
          YES, WE CAN. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO NON-PERISHABLE FOOD ITEMS, SHELF STABLE ITEMS, AND ALSO FROZEN ITEMS. OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? QUICK QUESTION. 
          UH, IS YOUR ORGANIZATION POSITION TO DO FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND FOLLOW A NATURAL DISASTER EVENT? YES, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS BEFORE WE, I HAVEN'T HAD, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, SO IT WAS, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE SINCE, BUT WE HAVE IN THE PAST, UM, DONE THE, UM, FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS LOCALLY AND WE'VE SENT STAFFED TO OUT OF STATE TO, TO HELP OTHER FOOD BANKS DURING TIMES OF CRISIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BIG NEED OUT THERE FOR THIS. 
          AND, UM, I'M JUST GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FOOD BANK WITH THE CHECK AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. 
          WE CAN'T TELL YOU ENOUGH HOW FAR, HOW FAR IT GOES. 
          THANK YOU, MEGAN. 
          IT WAS A WONDERFUL, UH, EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO DROP OFF THAT CHECK. 
          I THINK, I THINK WHAT WAS MOST STARTLING TO ME WAS JUST HOW EMPTY SOME OF THE RACKS WERE. 
          THE FDA RACKS, UM, BASICALLY WENT EMPTY BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY LOST, THEY LOST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THE INCOMING SUPPLY TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, ROW AFTER ROW AFTER ROW WAS EMPTY. 
          NOW, THE MARATHON DID A HUGE JOB OF FILLING SOME OF THOSE RACKS, BUT THERE'S A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE THAT'S JUST NOW STARTING TO CATCH UP FROM THE EFFECTS OF THE SHUTDOWN. 
          AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS EYEOPENING TO CERTAINLY SHEILA AND I WHEN WE WERE THERE. 
          YES, IT WAS, IT REALLY WAS MAKING, AND MY MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW YOU TAKE DONATION FOOD DONATIONS, BUT LOOKING AT THE COST OF FOOD, IS IT MORE PRACTICAL FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU MONEY BECAUSE YOU COULD STRETCH IT MUCH FARTHER THAN THE CANS OR THE SOUPS OR WHATEVER THAT PEOPLE DO DONATE? YES. 
          SO BOTH FILL A NEED, DONATING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY DONATING FOOD WHEN, WHEN FOOD COMES IN, WE SEND IT IMMEDIATELY OUT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY FILLING AN IMMEDIATE NEED. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT CALCULATION, THAT A DOLLAR, WE CAN DO THREE MEALS WITH A DOLLAR, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES GO A LONG WAY. 
          SO IF FOLKS ARE ABLE TO DONATE FUNDS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT REALLY, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE EXACT, UH, AMOUNT THAT, THAT HELPS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, A BACKPACK BAG THAT WE PACK 1500 OF THOSE A WEEK, THAT COSTS ABOUT $9 PER BACKPACK BAG. 
          SO ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF DONATION, A $9 DONATION, YOU'RE SUPPLYING FOOD FOR A CHILD FOR A WEEKEND. 
          SO IT, IT, IT REALLY DOES STRETCH A LONG WAY. 
          I JUST HAD ONE MORE, UH, COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE BEFORE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SHEILA. 
          UM, I, I THANK MY WIFE FOR GETTING ME INVOLVED IN FOOD INSECURITY AND KNOWLEDGE. 
          UH, SHE'S CURRENTLY RUNNING FISH UP IN WILLIAMSBURG, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO THE FOOD PANTRIES AND I'VE BEEN, BEEN TO THE, UM, MOBILE FOOD PANTRIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, 200, 200 5300 PEOPLE HAVE COME IN IN AN AFTERNOON AND TAKEN A, A SHOPPING CART FULL OF FOOD AWAY. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S TREMENDOUS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK FISH IS UP OVER 500,000 MEALS SERVED SO FAR THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S THE NEED. 
          AND IT'S AMAZING. 
          IT'S AMAZING. 
          AMAZING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU NEED ALL THE PUBLICITY WE POSSIBLY CAN GIVE YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND YOU BOUGHT THE CHECK BECAUSE ONLY TWO OF US COULD BE PART OF IT, AND WE WOULD LIKE THE WHOLE BOARD TO HAVE THEIR PICTURE TAKEN WITH IT BECAUSE THEY CONTRIBUTED AS WELL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          WE BROUGHT IT HERE. 
          WE BROUGHT THE BIG CHECK HERE TONIGHT, . 
          YES. 
          SO BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU COULD JOIN US DOWN FRONT, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          AND I THINK ONE LAST COMMENT, I MEAN, WE, WE FELT THAT NOT ONLY DUE TO THE, UH, GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND THE LACK OF FOOD, BUT IF YOU, IF PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY, THERE'S CRIME. 
          AND WE REALLY, WE WANT TO KEEP THIS AS A SAFE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT WAS BEHIND THE REASON AND, AND IN OUR HEART WHY WE WANTED TO DO THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD POINT. 
          VERY, VERY SPECIAL. 
          MEGAN. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COME ON. 
          COME ON. 
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I JUST DO IT AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          QUE IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          MARK . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          SO NOW DRUM ROLL. 
          MARK, WOULD YOU LIKE 
          [4. Space Study Update: Presentation by PMA Architecture.]
TO INTRODUCE OUR PEOPLE FROM PMA? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THEM? YES, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MRS. NOEL. 
          AS A RESULT OF A SIGNIFICANT SPACE STUDY CONCERNS IDENTIFIED BY THE JUDGES OF THE COURTHOUSE, WE ENGAGED PMA IN SEPTEMBER TO UPDATE THE, UH, SPACE STUDY AT THE COURT BUILDING, THE FINANCE BUILDING, AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WHILE THE SPACE NEEDS, UH, EXIST IN ALL OF THESE FACILITIES. 
          THIS STUDY WAS INITIALLY, UH, PRIMARILY A RESPONSE TO THE COURTHOUSE'S SPACE NEEDS, GIVEN THE SPECIALIZED NATURE OF THE COURT FACILITY PLANNING, PMA ENGAGED A FIRM, UH, WITH EXPERTISE IN COURT PLANNING TO SUPPORT THAT PORTION OF THE ANALYSIS. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AKSHAR PATEL WITH PMA ARCHITECTURE AND KEITH VENTRISS, WHO WILL WALK US THROUGH THEIR FINDINGS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UH, AS I WAS JUST INTRODUCED, MY NAME IS LAHAR PATEL. 
          I'M WITH PMA ARCHITECTURE. 
          UM, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND SO FAR WITH OUR SPACE NEEDS STUDY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING. 
          UM, PMA HAS SPECIALIZED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT SPACE, NEEDS ASSESSMENTS FOR OVER 50 YEARS. 
          AND I ALSO HAVE WITH ME KEITH VENTRE, WHO, UH, IS SPECIALIZING IN THE COURT'S PORTION OF THIS STUDY. 
          UM, THE OBJECTIVES IN THE SCOPE OF THE SPACE NEEDS STUDY WERE TO MEET WITH COUNTY, UM, LEADERSHIP AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO PROJECT SPACE NEEDS OVER 20 YEARS, UM, WHAT THE GROWTH LOOKS LIKE INTERNAL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND EVALUATE OPTIONS OF HOW TO SOLVE THOSE SPACE NEEDS AND DEVELOP A BUDGET FRAMEWORK AROUND, UM, WHAT THOSE OPTIONS MIGHT COST. 
          AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS SPACE NEEDS STUDY, THE LISTED DEPARTMENTS ON THE RIGHT HERE. 
          AND THEN NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KEITH TO GO THROUGH OUR FINDINGS OF THE COURT'S SPACE NEEDS. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME IS KEITH VENTRISS. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF INTEREST INCORPORATED. 
          WE'RE A SMALL FIRM, UH, THAT SPECIALIZES IN COURTHOUSE PLANNING. 
          SO WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN OVER 1200 COURTHOUSES. 
          AND, UH, YOUR COURT HERE IS, IS WONDERFUL AND WE WANT TO HELP BUT SEE YOU MANY MORE DAYS GOING OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR IS TO, UM, GATHER DATA ON POPULATION, DEMOGRAPHICS, ECONOMICS, UH, CASELOAD, UH, PERSONNEL. 
          AND WE HAVE SORT OF CRUNCHED THOSE NUMBERS. 
          WE'VE MET WITH THE COURT STAKEHOLDERS, SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN MANAGERS IN THE COURTS AS WELL AS, UH, THE DISTRICT OR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, AND OTHERS WHO WOULD BE, UH, TENANTS IN A FUTURE COURTHOUSE POTENTIALLY. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE MASSAGED THOSE NUMBERS. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN REVIEW, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE A LITTLE ADVANCED OF THEIR TEAM, UH, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. 
          SO WE'VE PUSHED FOR SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS. 
          UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES TO THE PUZZLE, AND THE VERY NEXT STEP WE HAVE TO DO STARTING NEXT MONTH IS TO SORT OF PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER AND WHAT ARE THE LAYOUTS THAT WOULD BE EFFICIENT FOR THE COURTS AND TO ENGAGE THEM SO THAT THEY REVIEW AND APPROVE EVERYTHING, UH, AS IT COMES TO YOU. 
          SO WE START, UH, BOTH WITH THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE COURTS WITH COUNTY POPULATION PROJECTIONS. 
          SO THIS IS JUST A SLIDE WE'VE GATHERED FROM CENSUS BUREAU AND, UH, THE UVA, UH, WELDON COOPER CENTER. 
          SO THE DARK BARS REPRESENT THE PAST POPULATION AND THE LIGHTER BARS REPRESENT OUR FUTURE. 
          AND WE, OF COURSE, IT'S A PLANNING EXERCISE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO THINK, UH, FAR OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          20 YEARS IS WHAT OUR PLANNING HORIZON IS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, BUT COURTS DO GROW PER POPULATION. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT VERY, UM, WHAT WE CALL CO-RELATED. 
          IT'S THE LARGER COMMUNITIES TEND TO HAVE LARGER WORKLOAD. 
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UH, BUT IF A CASE, IF YOUR POPULATION GROWS BY 5%, IT WOULDN'T BE TRUE THAT YOUR CASELOAD WOULD GROW BY 5%. 
          UM, DEMOGRAPHIC, DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFTS ALSO HAVE AN IMPACT. 
          YOU HAVE AN SORT OF AN AGING POPULATION IN YORK COUNTY, AND THAT'S BRINGING MORE CIVIL CASES TO THE COURT. 
          THE PANDEMIC HAD A HUGE HIT ON THE COURTS. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR CASELOAD SLIDES LATER. 
          UM, BUT THE PANDEMIC HAD A HIT THAT THE COURTS NEEDED TO RECOVER FROM, AND THEY'VE BEEN SORT OF A RARE COURT THAT HAS DONE THAT, UH, WITH SPEED, UM, LAW CHANGES. 
          THERE'S, UM, A LAW THAT PASSED CALLED THE SEAL ACT WHEN YOU SEAL A CASE SO THAT YOU CAN NO LONGER HAVE EASY ACCESS TO IT. 
          AND THAT'S REQUIRING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THE COURTS, UH, AS WELL AS OPERATIONAL CHANGES LIKE THE APPROVAL OF A RECOVERY COURT OR WHAT WE CALL A DRUG COURT, UM, THAT TAKES, UM, DIVERTS PEOPLE OUT OF A TRADITIONAL ADVERSARIAL, UH, JUSTICE PROGRAM AND PUTS THEM INTO, UH, MORE, UH, SUPPORTIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE, UH, DRUG COURT PROGRAM. 
          SO ALL OF THESE THINGS COMBINE TO IMPACT THE SPACE NEEDS OF THE COURT. 
          WE THEN TOOK A LOOK AT THE BUILDING. 
          SO WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A CORE TOOL. 
          CORE STANDS FOR COURTHOUSE OPTIMIZATION AND REAL TIME EVALUATION. 
          SO IT'S 200 PLUS FACTORS THAT WE EVALUATE COURTHOUSES WITH, AND THEY COVER, UH, SIX DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          FUNCTIONALITY. 
          HOW WELL DOES THE SPACE FLOW FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE COURT, UH, SECURITY, THE CONDITION OF THE SPACE, CARPETING AND PAINTING, UH, HOW WELL THE BU BUILDING SYSTEMS WORK FOR THE COURT. 
          IS THERE ELECTRICAL CAPACITY OR THEIR PLUMBING LEAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? THEIR SPACE STANDARDS. 
          VIRGINIA HAS STANDARDS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, AND COURT TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND, UM, IT'S THE COURT USING TECHNOLOGY TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE AND TO MAKE THEM THE MOST EFFICIENT THAT THEY CAN BE. 
          SO WE LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. 
          THE SIX CRITERIA BOIL DOWN TO 28 SPACE TYPES. 
          A SPACE TYPE WOULD BE A COURTROOM OR OFFICE SPACE OR A JURY ROOM, ET CETERA. 
          AND THEN 228 FACTORS THAT WE GO AROUND. 
          AND EACH FACTOR HAS A PERFORMANCE MEASURE. 
          SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS A VERY DATA-DRIVEN AND OBJECTIVE LOOK AT THE COURTHOUSE, UH, TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE IT STANDS TODAY. 
          AND THAT LEADS ME TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          THESE ARE THE SCORES BETWEEN ZERO AND 100. 
          UM, SORT OF THE COLORS. 
          UH, BELOW 60 IS A POOR SCORE. 
          SO THAT'S RED. 
          UH, BETWEEN 60 AND 80 BASICALLY IS A FAIR SCORE. 
          THAT'S YELLOW AND ABOVE 80 IS A GOOD SCORE. 
          AND SO THE FIRST BAR IS THE OVERALL SCORE FOR THE COURTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE COURTHOUSE SCORED IS A 68.2 OUT OF A POSSIBLE A HUNDRED POINTS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A SCORE FOR EACH OF THOSE SIX INDIVIDUAL, UH, CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO BUILDING SYSTEMS WAS THE HIGHEST, AND YOU CAN FOLLOW THAT DOWN TO THE LOWEST. 
          WAS THE COMPLIANCE WITH PUBLISHED SPACE STANDARDS IS THE OVERALL RATING A COMPOSITE COMPOSITE OF THE OTHER SIX? YES. 
          OR THE SEPARATE? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE, WE USE SORT OF A DECISION SUPPORT SOFTWARE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER. 
          SO THERE'S SOME WEIGHTING AND STUFF IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT YES, YOU, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE 68.2 IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE OTHER SCORES. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO FOR CASELOAD, WE DID LOOK AT HISTORIC CASELOAD, WHICH ARE THE DARK, IT'S THE DARK LINE, AND THEN PROJECTED CASELOAD OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          SO THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COURTS. 
          THE CIRCUIT COURT, WHICH WE'RE SHOWING HERE, GENERAL DISTRICT COURT, UH, AND JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS. 
          AND SO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC DATA, WE'VE USED SORT OF A SIMPLE GROWTH AVERAGE. 
          UM, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN PROBABLY JUST SIMPLE, BUT THAT'S HOW WHAT WE'VE USED TO EXTEND THIS TREND OUT INTO THE FUTURE MM-HMM . 
          AND IT'S PRETTY COMMON WHEN WE DON'T HAVE 30 TO 50 YEARS WORTH OF HISTORY AND WE USE SORT OF MORE ADVANCED TECHNIQUES. 
          BUT I THINK MORE THAN ACCURACY IS, IS IT A REASONABLE TREND FOR THE COURT? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED WITH THE JUDGES AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE ENDORSED IT AS REASONABLE. 
          NO ONE HAS AN ACCURATE CRYSTAL BALL FOR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN 20 YEARS IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE TO USE FORECASTING TOOLS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT TODAY AND CASELOAD RESULTS IN PERSONNEL RESULTS IN SPACE. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST BIG STEP, BUT THE GRAPH LOOKS LIKE A CLIMATE CHANGE GRAPH THAT'S NEVER ENDING UPWARDS. 
          AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, PARTICULARLY WHEN, WHEN WE HEAR ALL THE STUFF THAT SHERIFF MONTGOMERY IS DOING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CRIMES, PARTICULARLY CRIMINAL RELATED ACTIVITIES IN THIS, UH, JURISDICTION. 
          CAN, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN YOURSELF IN TERMS OF WHY WE'RE SEEING SUCH AN UPWARD TREND? YES. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, DON'T FORGET THERE'S A CRIMINAL AND A CIVIL COMPONENT TO THE CASES, AND THE CIVIL IS ACTUALLY THE LARGER COMPONENT THAT'S, THAT'S GROWING. 
          UM, SO WE'LL GET THAT, UM, , BUT YOU KNOW, THAT HISTORY LOOKS LIKE SHARK TEETH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A JAGGED TREND AND THAT NICE SMOOTH ONE THAT GOES OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          THIS CERTAINLY ISN'T A STUDY. 
          WE, WE WOULD WANT TO PREDICT PRECISELY WHAT THE CASELOAD IS THREE YEARS 
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FROM NOW, OR IT, WE JUST WANT TO GET THAT OVERALL TREND. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THE, UM, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ADDED PERSONNEL. 
          THE, THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY IS ADDING PERSONNEL ON QUITE RAPIDLY, AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO RESULT IN A HIGHER LEVEL OF CASES AND INDICTMENTS COMING INTO THE COURT ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S AN EFFORT TO LOWER CRIME, YOU'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE INTO THE AREA. 
          AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU GROW, SO SOMETIMES YOUR PROBLEMS GROW. 
          SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, UM, A HEAVY LITIGIOUS SOCIETY COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THAT HAVE SIMILAR NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT MUCH HIGHER CASELOADS. 
          UH, SO I, I DON'T WANNA SAY THERE'S ROOM TO GROW, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ROOM TO GROW WHEN IT COMES TO COURT CASES. 
          BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GET A STEADY TREND MOVING OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT THAT, THAT SHOWS A 31% INCREASE OVER WHAT, 25 YEARS? I CAN'T LOOK AT THE BOTTOM. 
          20 YEARS. 
          YES. 
          20 YEARS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT SAME PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE HISTORICAL DATA WE HAVE. 
          SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH CALLING IT 31% INCREASE OVER THAT MUCH TIME? I AM, BECAUSE THAT RELATES TO ABOUT A 1% PER YEAR, AND THAT'S A PRETTY LOW GROWTH RATE FOR COURTS. 
          UM, OVERALL, THE OVERALL TREND. 
          SO I, I, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, COMFORTABLE, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT SORT OF A HIGH AND LOW FORECAST. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH JUST ONE SORT OF BEST FIT THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT A RANGE, UH, AS WE'RE DOING THE STUDY AND GET REACTIONS TO THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR WORKING NUMBERS TO SEE IF THE WORKING NUMBERS MATCH THE, THE FORECAST FOR, FOR SPACE. 
          SO THAT'S, I'M TRY AND WRAP MY HEAD AROUND, SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I GUESS MY REACTION WAS WOULD WE NOT USE REGRESSION ANALYSIS TOOL BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE A MUCH DIFFERENT TREND LINE THAN THE, UH, THAN WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN. 
          WOW. 
          THIS IS, IS GONNA GET A TECHNICAL CONVERSATION. 
          IF YOU SCRATCH MY SURFACE SURFACE TOO MUCH, YOU'LL FIND THAT I'M NOT A STATISTICIAN, BUT, UM, REGRESSION ANALYSIS, LIKE LINEAR REGRESSION USUALLY HAS AN INDEPENDENT VARIABLE AND IT'S VERY TOUGH TO DETERMINE AN INDEPENDENT VARIABLE FOR CASELOAD IF YOU USE POPULATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GREAT CORRELATION WITH CASELOAD. 
          UH, IF YOU TRY TO MEASURE ALL THOSE LAW CHANGES AND POLICY CHANGES AND PROSECUTION INITIATIVES, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. 
          SO THEN KIND OF WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS TIME BEING YOUR INDEPENDENT VARIABLE. 
          AND IF YOU DID A REGRESSION WITH THAT, YOU WOULD GET A VERY, A MUCH FLATTER TREND THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE. 
          BUT EVEN WITH THAT TIME IS NOT A GOOD INDEPENDENT PREDICTOR. 
          I WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE DATA AND USE SOMETHING THAT WOULD INCORPORATE A TIME SERIES ANALYSIS WITHOUT GETTING IN INTO MUCH DETAIL THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THAT. 
          SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS TO TRY TO GET 30 YEARS OF HISTORY AND TO TRY SOME OTHER TECHNIQUES THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED. 
          I, I HOPE THAT HELPS. 
          I'M SORRY FOR THE, THE TECHNICAL ANSWER. 
          THIS IS THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE HUGE IMPACT THAT THE PANDEMIC HAD, UH, ON THAT. 
          AND IT'S HONESTLY, MANY COURTS THAT HAVE WENT DOWN, LIKE THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT DID, ARE STILL FIGHTING TO GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE. 
          ALL THREE OF THE COURTS HAD AN IMPACT DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT ALL THREE HAVE RECOVERED AND HAVE, UH, HIGHER LEVELS THAN THEY DID GOING INTO THE PANDEMIC, WHICH AGAIN IS FAIRLY RARE. 
          AND THIS IS JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS. 
          SIMILAR TREND. 
          JUST KEEP IN MIND THE SCALE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT, WE'RE TALKING 25,000 CASES. 
          SO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CASES THAT REQUIRE SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE COURT COMPARED TO THE CIRCUIT COURT, UH, WHICH HAS, UM, I THINK IT WAS AROUND 5,000 OR SO CASES AND JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS, WHICH IS ABOUT 4,000 CASES. 
          SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCALES, DIFFERENT COMPLEXITY TO THE CASES, BUT THE ONE THING IS THAT THE CASELOAD DRIVES PEOPLE AND PEOPLE DRIVE SPACE. 
          SO IF WE WANNA LOOK AT A BROADER RANGE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR THE CASELOAD FORECAST WHEN WE GET TO THE SPACE, VIRGINIA'S WONDERFUL AND THEY HAVE A PUBLISHED DESIGN GUIDE, UH, SO THE VIRGINIA TRIAL COURT FACILITIES GUIDELINES. 
          SO THESE PRODUCE STANDARDS, A COURTROOM WILL BE THIS SIZE FOR THE CIRCUIT COURT AND ANOTHER SIZE FOR A DISTRICT COURT, ET CETERA, AND A STAFF OFFICE SIZE. 
          AND SO YOU'LL SEE THREE DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF COURTROOMS AND THE DRAWINGS HERE THAT WOULD GO INTO THE FUTURE, UH, SPACE, YOU KNOW, LARGE COURTROOM THAT HANDLE, UH, TRIAL JURIES AND THEN NON TRIAL JURY COURTROOM. 
          AND THEN HEARING ROOMS LIKE THE DRUG COURT WOULD BE A HEARING ROOM THAT DOESN'T NEED A TRIAL, UH, SET UP. 
          HOW, HOW, HOW DOES, HOW DO OUR CURRENT ROOMS MATCH UP TO THAT STANDARD. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA FLIP YOU BACK WITH YOUR EYES THROUGH 
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ALL THOSE SLIDES, BUT IT WAS THE, THE REDDEST BAR ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT GRAPH. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE POOREST ELEMENT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS HOW WELL IT RELATES TO CURRENT STANDARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS UH, GUIDE WAS JUST PUBLISHED IN MAY. 
          THERE WAS A PREVIOUS ONE, THERE WASN'T AN ENORMOUS CHANGE, UM, BUT YOUR COURTHOUSE MAY HAVE BEEN DESIGNED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ONE. 
          SO THE, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SINCE IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF SECURITY IN SOME OF THE SPACES OR JURY. 
          THIS LOOKS LIKE THE, I WON'T GO OVER ALL THIS IN DETAIL, BUT BASICALLY FOCUSING ON THOSE ARROWS, AND IT'S A TIMELINE GOING OUT FROM 2025 TO 2024 TO 2045 AND WHEN POTENTIAL COURTROOMS WOULD BE ADDED. 
          SO TODAY THERE ARE TWO CIRCUIT COURT COURTROOMS. A CR IS A COURTROOM, CC IS A CIRCUIT COURT, SORRY FOR MY ABBREVIATIONS ONE GENERAL DISTRICT COURTROOM AND ONE J AND DR COURTROOM. 
          AND THEN THE, THE CIRCUIT HAS RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR A DRUG COURT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND SO THAT COULD HAPPEN AT ANY POINT IN TIME, BUT OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, UH, THEY WOULD NEED, UH, A HEARING ROOM. 
          UH, THEY COULD CERTAINLY USE IT IF IT WERE CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF A GAP IN 2035 WHERE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COURTROOMS NEEDED. 
          BUT THEN IN 2040, AN ADDITIONAL COURTROOM WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT AND MAYBE OUT THERE AT 2045, UH, FOR THE JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT. 
          SO IN TOTAL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIX COURTROOMS, FIVE TO SIX COURTROOMS, THAT THAT ONE IN 2045 IS WAY OUT THERE. 
          AND ONE HEARING ROOM IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          SO A COUPLE OF MORE FACILITIES THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SO THIS IS OUR EXISTING SPACE. 
          THE TOTAL IN THE COURTHOUSE IS 66,000, ALMOST 67,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THE BLUE BARS REPRESENT THE FIVE, 10, AND 20 YEAR NEEDS. 
          SO IF WE TAKE THAT COURTHOUSE AT 66, 6, 6 7 AND WE DRAW THAT YELLOW DOTTED LINE OUT, YOU CAN SEE THE CAPACITY OF THE COURTHOUSE AND THEN THE RED LINE ABOVE IT IS ADDED, UH, THE, THE FINANCE BUILDING ADDED TO THAT. 
          SO THERE HAS BEEN A NOTION THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT THE FINANCE BUILDING COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED FOR THE COURTS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE NEXT PART OF OUR STUDY IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY, UH, THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN OR IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. 
          BUT JUST WANNA MAKE THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SPACE IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT GONNA FULLY MEET THE COURT'S NEEDS AS ESPECIALLY GOING FORWARD OUT INTO THE FUTURE, UH, BEYOND THE FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, A LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE ALL THE COURTS LISTED, UH, THE COURT COMPONENTS THAT WE INTERVIEWED LISTED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR 5, 10, 20 YEAR SPACE NEEDS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. 
          AND THAT COLUMN IN THE MIDDLE THAT HAS THE COLORS BASICALLY SHOWS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES, THEIR CHAMBERS ARE 33% OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE AT THAT FIVE YEAR POINT. 
          NOW WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY NEW JUDGES AT THE FIVE YEAR POINT, UH, FOR THE CIRCUIT COURT. 
          SO THIS IS A DEFICIENCY THAT THEY HAVE TO TODAY. 
          UM, OR, UH, THE, THE JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS CLERK'S OFFICE IS A YELLOW, IT HAS 81% OF THE SPACE THEY NEED. 
          SO SOME COMPONENTS ARE BETTER OFF THAN OTHERS, UH, THE WAY THEY ARE TODAY. 
          AND I THINK OUR STRATEGIES ARE AIMED AT HELPING THE ONES THAT HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR THEIR OPERATIONS. 
          UH, FIRST YOU HAVE THE MAGISTRATE LISTED THERE. 
          DOES THE MAGISTRATE HAVE A HAVE A OFFICE SPACE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? DOES IT NEED TO HAVE TO BE AT THE COURT? THE, THE, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          THE MAGISTRATE DOES HAVE AN OFFICE, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE NEW DESIGN STANDARDS AND SORT OF FUNCTIONALLY CALL FOR IT TO BE AT THE COURTHOUSE WHEN POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO WE'VE, WE INTERVIEWED THE, THE REGIONAL OR SUPERVISORY MAGISTRATE AND HAVE INCLUDED HER INTO THE MIX, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT SHE WOULD SAY THAT THE SPACE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS, IS GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR HER OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN MAYBE THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS SHE LOOKS TO THE COURTHOUSE IF NEW CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WHERE'S THE MAGISTRATE NOW? IS IT DOWN AT THE JAIL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEITH. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL GET INTO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE NEEDS PORTIONS OF OUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO IN MEETING WITH COUNTY LEADERSHIP AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE COMPLETED INTERVIEWS PROJECTING PERSONAL AND FUNCTIONAL SPACE NEEDS. 
          UM, AND IN LOOKING AT THOSE NEEDS WE HAVE APPLIED, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT SPACE CRITERIA THAT'S WIDELY ACCEPTED AND, UM, STANDARDIZED. 
          AND WE HAVE PROJECTED THESE NEEDS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, IN THE FIVE YEAR INCREMENT, 10 YEAR INCREMENT, AND 20 YEAR INCREMENT. 
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UM, AND THIS CHART, AS KEITH EXPLAIN EXPLAINED BEFORE, WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT SPACE EACH DEPARTMENT HAS CURRENTLY AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS MEETING THE NEED IN FIVE YEARS. 
          SO WE CAN SEE HERE THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE CURRENTLY HAS 39% OF THE SPACE THEY NEED IN FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, FINANCE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS 53% OF THE SPACE THEY NEED THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN FIVE YEARS. 
          AND AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE IN THAT MIDDLE COLUMN WITH ALL OF THAT RED AND ORANGE, UM, IT'S PRETTY INDICATIVE THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTY LISTED HERE, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE REGISTRAR, ARE IN NEED OF SPACE, WHICH, UM, GOES ACROSS FROM PERSONNEL NEEDS TO, UM, SUPPORT NEEDS SUCH AS MEETING ROOMS, PRINT ROOMS, THINGS TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN A IN AN EFFICIENT WAY. 
          SO ARE THOSE SPACE REQUIREMENTS, SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED UPON A SIMILAR STANDARD AS THE VIRGINIA HAS FOR THE COURTS, OR WHAT'S, WHAT STANDARD IS THAT BASED ON? SO THOSE STANDARDS ARE BASED ON, WE LOOK AT, UM, OUR PAST EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WHAT WE'VE USED THERE PREVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS MILITARY STANDARDS FOR OFFICE SPACES AND OFFICE BUILDINGS, AND, UM, KIND OF CREATING A LIBRARY OF WELL ACCOUNTED FOR WELL SIZED SPACES, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO MUCH, NOT NOT TOO LITTLE, UM, THAT WALKS THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICE THIS SIZE WILL SUPPORT THIS POSITION, A CONFERENCE ROOM THIS SIZE WILL SUPPORT THIS MANY PEOPLE. 
          UM, AND KIND OF CREATING A STANDARD LIBRARY IN THAT SENSE. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE A GOOD, BETTER, BEST, UM, VIEW OF THAT SPACE? OR IS IT JUST THIS IS THE STANDARD? UM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S, THIS IS A STANDARD. 
          I, I BRIEFLY WHAT I'D MENTIONED, WE LOOK AT MILITARY STANDARDS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, VERY EFFICIENT USE OF SPACE THAT THE MILITARY RELEASES FOR THEIR OFFICE AND SUPPORT BUILDINGS. 
          AND THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT THAT WE BASE IT OFF OF. 
          AND THEN WE'LL START TO ASSESS, UM, DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONING? HOW MUCH PUBLIC INTERFACE ARE THEY HAVING, HOW MUCH IS THERE NEED FOR SECURITY IN THIS DEPARTMENT? AND TAKE ALL THOSE FACTORS AND, AND CREATE SPACES THAT ARE SIZED SUITABLY FOR IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK FROM THIS LIST THOUGH, THE, THE REGISTRAR IS THE ONE THAT KIND OF RAISES THE QUESTION MARK. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD APPRECIATE THEM REMAINING WHERE THEY ARE. 
          SO I DOUBT WHETHER WE WOULD INCLUDE THEM UNDER THE OVERALL SPACE NEEDS OF ADMINISTRATIVE. 
          YEAH, THEY, THEY ARE LOCATED VERY WELL IN THE COUNTY, CENTRALLY LOCATED, AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED THAT. 
          AND WHEN YOU SPOKE WITH THEM AS WELL, I THINK THAT'S ONE TWEAK I WOULD MAKE TO THIS TABLE GOING FORWARD. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE DO THAT. 
          I SAW THAT ONE . 
          THE, UM, THE OVERALL INCREASE THOUGH, IF I LOOK AT THE SPACE NEEDS, IT'S ABOUT A 15% INCREASE IN CAPACITY OVER 30 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF YOU, UH, IF YOU CORRELATE THAT TO THE INCREASE IN POPULATION, WHICH IS ABOUT 10% OVER THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY TIGHT. 
          THE YEAH. 
          THE, THE PERCENTAGE IN THE STANDARD IS ABOUT 15%, BUT TO GET TO THAT, THAT STANDARD IS GONNA BE A LOT MORE THAN 15% FOR SOME OF THE STUFFS YELLOW AND RED. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT THE 15% IS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOWING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT 30 YEARS, THAT SEEMS RIGHT. 
          THAT SEEMS REASONABLE. 
          IT'S JUST THE, WITH THE POPULATION INCLUDED. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          YEP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I, I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR ESTEEMED JUDGE. 
          WELL, I WAS GOING TO CALL THE JUDGE IF, IF, IF WE HAVE FINISHED, I STILL HAVE SOME MORE. 
          YOU NOT FINISHED YET?  NOT DONE YET. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO NEXT WE WILL GO INTO THE, SOME OF THE WAYS WE CAN MEET THESE SPACE NEEDS THAT WE DISCOVERED, UM, AND HOW WE CAN MEET THOSE FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND KEITH WILL GO OVER KIND OF OUR, OUR FIRST INITIAL KIND OF STEP IN IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, REALLY QUICKLY, JUST TO ORIENT YOU GUYS HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, UM, PLAN FROM THE COUNTY GIS WEBSITE LOOKING AT THE COURTHOUSE AND THE FINANCE BUILDING ADMIN. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE IS UP TOP ON THE YELLOW IS ROUTE 17. 
          AND ALEXANDER HAMILTON IS KIND OF, SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, IN THE, IN THE PAGE BALLARD STREET CHURCH STREET. 
          I LIKE THIS IDEA. 
          AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO KEITH. 
          GREAT. 
          SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT A SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO HELP THE COURTS WITH SOME OF THAT SPACE DEFICIENCIES THAT THEY HAVE TODAY. 
          AND I WON'T GO IN TREMENDOUS DETAIL, BUT IT, IT NECESSITATES MOVING. 
          MOVE TO THE MICROPHONE. 
          PLEASE MOVE TO THE MIC, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT NECESSITATES, UM, THAT SHORT TERM SOLUTION NECESSITATES MOVING SOMEONE FROM THE COURTHOUSE. 
          AND SO WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF THE COURT AND WHO COULD BE TEMPORARILY LOCATED, TEMPORARILY LOCATED AWAY. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE THE COURT SERVICES UNIT AND JUVENILE SERVICES, SORT OF THE PROBATION FUNCTION. 
          UH, COULD BE TEMPORARILY 
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MOVED PERHAPS OUT INTO LEASED SPACE. 
          UH, AND THEN THAT WOULD FREE UP SPACE IN THE BUILDING FOR THE SHORT TERM TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO PROVIDE THOSE TENANTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF SPACE DEFICIENCIES TO GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          AND SO OUR VERY NEXT STEP WILL BE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE SECOND FLOOR ON HOW ALL OF THAT WOULD FIT TOGETHER AND PROVIDE THAT SPACE RELIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE GO TO A MORE MIDTERM STRATEGY. 
          SO TO ALSO AID IN HELPING SOLVE THE COURTHOUSE NEEDS. 
          UM, THE DEPARTMENT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE FINANCE BUILDING WILL NEED TO BE RELOCATED TO MAKE WAY FOR A LONG-TERM SOLUTION AT THE COURTHOUSE. 
          UM, THIS WILL INCLUDE A NEW ADMIN BUILDING WHERE WE WILL MOVE IN ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS FROM THE FINANCE BUILDING AND THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING INTO THIS NEW BUILDING. 
          UM, LOCATING IT ON THE SITE IN THIS MANNER WILL ALLOW THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING TO STAY IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONING DURING CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO THERE'S NO DISRUPTION TO BUSINESS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. 
          AND THEN ONCE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE MOVED INTO THE NEW ADMIN BUILDING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT 78,000 SQUARE FEET OVER THREE FLOORS, WE CAN DEMOLISH THE OLD ADMIN BUILDING AND MAKE WAY FOR ANY NECESSARY PARKING, WHETHER IT BE SURFACE PARKING OR, UM, A PARKING GARAGE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO ADDRESSING SITE CIRCULATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE NEW BUILDING AND PARKING. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THERE'S A LONG-TERM SOLUTION FOR THE COURTS. 
          AND THAT IS WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL THE FINANCE BUILDING CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT COURT OPERATIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHETHER IT CAN SUPPORT A COURTROOM AND WHETHER THERE COULD LONG-TERM BE AN ANNEX THAT TIES IT TOGETHER, OR AN ANNEX THAT STANDALONE. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PARAMOUNT IN THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE PARKING FOR ALL THE COURT AND RELATED FUNCTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LONG TERM STRATEGY, UH, AS WE'VE OUR VERY NEXT STEPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          THAT LEAVES US OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WHEN I TORE THE COURTHOUSE WAS HOW MUCH FLOOR SPACE IS DEDICATED TO RECORDS RECORD STORAGE? AND I KNOW SOME RECORDS NEED TO BE ON SITE FOR QUICK ACCESS, BUT I'M HOPING PART OF THE STUDY FIND A WAY TO RELOCATE THE, THAT THE RECORDS THAT DON'T, THE PHYSICAL RECORDS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE ON SITE TO GAIN, GAIN SOME FLOOR BASE. 
          YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          IT'S VERY DIFFICULT IN VIRGINIA, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS THE OFFICIAL KEEPER OF THE RECORDS. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE RECORDS GO BACK MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU STORE 'EM? WHICH ONES DO YOU SCAN? AND, AND ALL OF THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE HAD THE DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO REDUCE AND, AND THAT DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE. 
          AND, AND I DO THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT AND LIKE, JUST LOOK AT THE RECORDS AND, AND DEEDS AREA OF THE CIRCUIT CLERK'S OFFICE IS ALMOST NON-EXISTENT COMPARED TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE. 
          AND IT'S CARVED UP BETWEEN THE BASEMENT AND THE FIRST FLOOR AND TAKEN OVER A HALLWAY. 
          THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND IN WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IT WORK FOR TODAY. 
          IT'S KIND OF HARD TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST CHANGED, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST HAD MORE SCANNING AND IMAGING, WE WOULDN'T NEED AS MUCH SPACE. 
          UM, IT'S TRUE. 
          BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET THEIR SPACE RIGHT TODAY BEFORE THEY CAN REALLY FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, UM, WHITLING THE WAY AT THEIR NEEDS DUE TO, UM, GETTING RID OF PAPER. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN EASY LIFT. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF HIS TRULY HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS THAT GO BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF, OF THE COUNTY FOR YES. 
          DEEDS AND RECORDS, BUT IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST CURRENT CASES, MAYBE FIVE YEARS OLD AS WELL, THAT IS PHYSICAL RECORDS THAT TAKE UP SPACE IN LARGE, FOLLOWING CABINETS, SITTING ON FLOORS THAT COULD BE USED FOR DESK AND OFFICES. 
          SO I'M, I'M, I'M HOPING WE'LL FIND A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, KEEP LOCAL, AND WHAT WE CAN STORE OFF SITE. 
          I I THINK THAT FOR ALL THREE OF THE CLERKS ARE ALL OVER THE SHORT TERM AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THAT MIDTERM AND LONGER TERM ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I THINK I'D LIKE TO CALL ON JUDGE ICK IF HE WOULD COME FORWARD TO GIVE US THE COURT'S OPTIONS AND WHAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO HAVE. 
          SURE. 
          UH, SO MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. BELLAMY, MR. HILL, UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M RICH REIK. 
          I'M ONE OF THE JUDGES, UH, HERE IN YORK. 
          I'VE HAD THE HONOR AND THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE FOR THE LAST 10 AND A HALF YEARS. 
          SO I CAN ONLY OFFER MY PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, AND, AND REALLY I WANT YOUR COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST YORK. 
          IF WE LOOK AT THE COURTS IN THE NINTH JUDICIAL 
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CIRCUIT, WHICH IS OUR CIRCUIT, UH, OTHER COURTS ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME ANALYSIS. 
          WE'LL START WITH NEW KENT, WHICH IS THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE STATE. 
          NEW KENT AND LOUDOUN. 
          THEY'VE OUTGROWN THEIR COURTHOUSE. 
          THEY NOW HAVE LAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW COURTHOUSE ON. 
          AND THAT'S GOTTA BEGIN SOON. 
          UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO OVERWHELMED AND THERE'S SUCH A LACK OF SPACE IN NEW KENT. 
          WE TURN NEXT DOOR TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY, AND I ALWAYS PARALLEL WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY WITH YORK AND PCOS, AND THEY'RE VERY COMPARABLE. 
          YORK COUNTY COURTHOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1997. 
          I KNOW THAT 'CAUSE I WAS A PROSECUTOR NEXT DOOR IN WILLIAMSBURG. 
          WILLIAMSBURG WAS BUILT IN 1999. 
          THE WILLIAMSBURG COURTHOUSE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN YORK BY WAY OF SPACE. 
          WILLIAMSBURG JAMES CITY CONDUCTED A, UH, A STUDY SPACE STUDY IN 2022, AND THEY ALREADY HAVE PLANS FOR EXPANSION. 
          NOT A NEW COURTHOUSE, BUT AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE BECAUSE OFFICES ARE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS WE TURN TO YORK. 
          YORK WAS BUILT IN 97 2 YEARS PRIOR TO WILLIAMSBURG. 
          AND OUR SPACE STUDY, WHICH I COMMEND YOU FOR AUTHORIZING THE SPACE STUDY. 
          IT'S MUCH NEEDED. 
          UH, IT'S THREE YEARS AFTER WILLIAMSBURG. 
          AND MY CONCERN IS YOU'VE GOT A TEAM THAT'S BEEN ASSEMBLED IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          AND I'M GONNA BE VERY BIASED, I'M GONNA LEAVE MYSELF OUT OF THE PICTURE. 
          BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEPUTIES THAT SERVE THE COURTHOUSE, THE CLERKS, THE PROSECUTORS, AND THE OTHER STAFF THAT ARE NECESSARY EMPLOYEES ESSENTIAL TO THE COURTHOUSE FUNCTIONS, AND MY THREE COLLEAGUES, THE OTHER JUDGES IN YORK, I'LL PUT 'EM UP AGAINST ANYONE IN THE COMMONWEALTH. 
          IT IS THE CREME DE LA CREME, TOP-NOTCH PUBLIC SERVANTS. 
          AND WHAT WE NEED IS SPACE. 
          WE DON'T NEED NEW FURNITURE. 
          MOST OF US HAVE INHERITED THE FURNITURE THAT FIRST CAME IN THE COURTHOUSE IN 1997. 
          I NEED SPACE FOR PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT WE CAN RELY ON, PEOPLE THAT WE CAN RETAIN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT HIRING GOOD PEOPLE, IT'S ABOUT RE RETAINING, UH, GOOD PEOPLE. 
          AND TWO CLERK'S OFFICES, CIRCUIT COURT. 
          AND WE HAVE MADAM CLERK KRISTIN NELSON, UH, IN THE GALLERY TONIGHT. 
          HER OFFICE, GENERAL DISTRICT COURT CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          AND THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE HAS BASICALLY NO MORE ROOM TO ADD PEOPLE. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS ABOUT LET'S TRY TO, UM, SCAN DOCUMENTS, BUT THAT TAKES MANPOWER. 
          AND WHERE DO YOU HOUSE THE MANPOWER WHEN YOU HAVE NO SPACE FOR THE MANPOWER? AND BASICALLY, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SHORT TERM, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE EXPERTS HAVE PUT TOGETHER, BUT SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AS FAR AS FREEING UP SPACE FOR THE CURRENT TENANTS IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          UM, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE BUILD A NEW COURTHOUSE, BUT UTILIZE THE SPACE THAT THE COUNTY MAY HAVE FOR NON-ESSENTIAL OFFICES, POSSIBLY NEXT DOOR. 
          WHETHER IT'S COURT SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S THE COMMISSIONER OF ACCOUNTS THAT WORKS FOR THE CIRCUIT COURT. 
          UM, THEY'RE NOT ESSENTIAL TO BE IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          THAT WILL FREE UP SPACE FOR SOME OF THE OFFICES THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF SPACE. 
          GENERAL DISTRICT COURT CLERK'S OFFICE HAS HAD A POSITION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FILL FOR A YEAR AND A HALF STATE FUNDED POSITION BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THE CLERK. 
          WE'VE GOT NEW LEGISLATION ON THE HORIZON WITH THE CEILING LEGISLATION THAT'S GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED JULY ONE OF THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF MANPOWER. 
          MANPOWER THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE. 
          AND MANPOWER THAT SHOULD THEY OBTAIN. 
          THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THE PEOPLE. 
          UM, THERE'S NO CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          WE'VE, OUR CONFERENCE ROOM THAT'S UTILIZED BY THE JUDGES, BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BY THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IS OUR JURY ROOM. 
          AND THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE A JURY? I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE A CONFERENCE, DON'T HAVE A MEETING. 
          SO OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE, ARE GRAPPLING WITH THESE SAME ISSUES. 
          BUT IT'S REAL CLEAR. 
          I MEAN, YOUR COUNTY DESERVES A FUNCTIONING COURTHOUSE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT WANT TO DO THEIR JOB IN A DILIGENT, RESPONSIBLE WAY. 
          BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPACE FOR 'EM. 
          IT, IT BROKE MY HEART ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 
          I'M WALKING AROUND THE COURTHOUSE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE CAN WE CREATE SPACE OR UTILIZE SPACE MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          AND I SEE DOWN IN THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE IN THE HALLWAY, 'CAUSE THE VICTIM WITNESS IS SITUATED ACROSS THE HALLWAY AND A VICTIM WITNESS ADVOCATE IS MEETING WITH A CHILD VICTIM IN THE HALLWAY OF A COURTHOUSE. 
          THERE WAS NO MEETING PLACE FORM. 
          SO WE CREATED A CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR 
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THAT'S USED BY ATTORNEYS WHO ARE MEETING WITH THEIR CLIENTS FOR COURT. 
          AND WE TURNED THAT INTO A VICTIM WITNESS OFFICE. 
          THEY GET FIRST PRIORITY. 
          AND WHEN IT'S NOT USED BY THEM, THEN IT'S USED BY ATTORNEYS. 
          BUT I ALWAYS LEARNED GROWING UP AND THROUGHOUT MY EDUCATION THAT THE COURTHOUSE IS ONE OF THOSE CENTRAL PIECES OF A COMMUNITY. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH BUSINESS THAT IS TRANSACTED AT A COURTHOUSE BOTH INSIDE THE COURTROOM AND OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM. 
          FOLKS THAT ARE GETTING MARRIED WHO WANT MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES, LICENSES, PEOPLE APPLYING FOR CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS, PEOPLE WHO ARE PURCHASING LAND WHO HAVE TO RECORD A DEED AND GO THROUGH LAND RECORDS. 
          WE HAVE PROBATE FOLKS THAT LOSE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT NOW ARE, ARE, UH, QUALIFYING AS ADMINISTRATORS AND EXECUTORS. 
          THESE PEOPLE NEVER MAKE IT IN THE COURTROOMS THAT RELYING ON THE SPACE IN THE COURTHOUSE TO FULFILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          AND I WOULD JUST SAY, I KNOW YORK COUNTY CAN DO THIS. 
          AND WHILE IT'S A CHALLENGE AND, AND FOLKS DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, THE REALITY IS IT'S MANDATED BY LAW. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT 15 TWO, AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL READ IT SO I DON'T MISSTATE ANYTHING. 
          BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE LAW OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, THE GOVERNING BODY. 
          WE ALL KNOW WHO THAT IS. 
          I'M LOOKING AT 'EM. 
          THE GOVERNING BODY OF EVERY COUNTY SHALL PROVIDE COURTHOUSES WITH SUITABLE SPACE AND FACILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE THE VARIOUS COURTS AND OFFICIALS THEREOF SERVING THE COUNTY. 
          IT'S THAT SIMPLE. 
          AND THEN WE PUT THE LAW ASIDE AND WE JUST SAY FROM A COMMON SENSE STANDPOINT, WHAT DO OUR CITIZENS DESERVE? WHAT DO THEY NEED? WELL, THEY NEED A COURTHOUSE THAT'S GONNA BE FUNCTIONAL, THAT'S GONNA BE EFFICIENT SO WE CAN KEEP THE WHEELS OF JUSTICE CIRCULATING FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION TO THE BOARD. 
          I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE COME TO THE COURTHOUSE TO SEE IT. 
          I'M A VISUAL INDIVIDUAL. 
          I NEED TO SEE IT. 
          UM, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN INVESTED IN THAT, BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN ANY ONE JUDGE. 
          IT'S BIGGER THAN ANY ONE CLERK OR PROSECUTOR. 
          THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY NEEDS AND, AND, AND SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UH, OR IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA SET UP WELL FOR BEING AN EFFICIENTLY RUN COURTHOUSE. 
          WE SPEAK ABOUT COVID AND I APPRECIATE THEIR REMARKS. 
          WE CLOSED FOR ONE DAY, ONE DAY FOR COVID. 
          THE COURTHOUSE CLOSED BECAUSE WE HAD A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COURTHOUSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE. 
          SO WE BROUGHT IN A CLEANING CREW. 
          WE OPENED UP THE NEXT DAY, NEVER CLOSED SINCE. 
          'CAUSE YOU CAN'T CLOSE A COURTHOUSE. 
          YOU CAN'T CLOSE A COURTHOUSE AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITY NEEDS, BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE, UH, THE COURTROOM. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO LONG. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. 
          I'LL ANSWER 'EM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, JUDGE. 
          THANK YOU VERY, UM, VERY CLEAR. 
          BUT TELL ME ABOUT THE DRUG COURT OR THE RECOVERY COURT AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT AND AND WHERE DOES THAT GO? SURE. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A, A RECOVERY COURT TEAM. 
          SO THEY WERE CALLED DRUG COURTS UP UNTIL THIS PAST JULY ONE, AND NOW THEY'RE CALLED RECOVERY COURTS. 
          AND IT'S A NEED THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS. 
          UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE A COLONIAL OR MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL RECOVERY COURT. 
          SO IT'S GONNA ENCOMPASS YORK COUNTY, OCN, WILLIAMSBURG, AND JAMES CITY. 
          AND IT'S GONNA OPERATE OUT OF YORK CIRCUIT COURT. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TEAM. 
          WE WENT THROUGH OUR TRAINING LAST WEEK. 
          WE HAVE ONE MORE DAY OF TRAINING IN JANUARY. 
          AND THEN I'M GONNA SUBMIT THE APPLICATION WITH ALL OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION. 
          AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE UP AND RUNNING, UM, THIS SUMMER BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED. 
          AND WE'VE GOTTA UTILIZE EVERY TOOL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US TO ADDRESS SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, ADDICTION, AND MENTAL HEALTH THAT WE SEE ON OUR DOCKETS EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          UM, SO I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, MR. HOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JUDGE. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. 
          MR. SHEPHERD. 
          UH, HI. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND TALKING TO US. 
          UH, WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, MATTER AND, UH, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND YOU NEED THE OTHER SUPPORT TO GET IT DONE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO A QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE INTERNAL PART SPACES AND MOVING PEOPLE IN AND OUTTA THERE. 
          UM, AND I'VE SEEN PROJECTIONS OF THE LAYOUT OF BUILDINGS, HOW, UM, EVERY TIME I GO OVER THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NEVER A PAR ENOUGH PARKING SPACE. 
          . 
          WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, SO, SO 
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THERE ISN'T, UH, BEGINNING WITH THE COURTHOUSE, UH, STAFF. 
          SO MY THOUGHT, AND I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, BUT JUST FROM A COMMON SENSE STANDPOINT, UNLESS THE COUNTY HAS LAND AND YOU WANT TO BUILD A BRAND NEW COURTHOUSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT EXISTING COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS A CHARMING VIRGINIA COURTHOUSE THAT'S LACKING SPACE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, WE EXPAND OUT BACK, AND THE GROUND FLOOR IS GONNA BE PARKING FOR ALL COURTHOUSE EMPLOYEES. 
          SO IT'S SECURE. 
          AND NOW IT FREES UP ALL THE OTHER PARKING AROUND THE COURTHOUSE FOR VISITORS TO THE COURTHOUSE. 
          AND THEN YOU BUILD A SECOND FLOOR AND A THIRD FLOOR, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU ADD HEARING ROOMS, COURTROOMS, AND YOU BUILD OUT TOWARDS THE FUTURE OFFICE SPACE. 
          THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT IN LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND LOOKING OUT MY BACK WINDOW. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT, BUT TO ME THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 
          AND IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE, UTILIZING THE FINANCE BUILDING OR ANOTHER COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING THAT MAY HAVE SOME ROOM FOR SOME OF THOSE NON-ESSENTIAL MEMBERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE COURTHOUSE TO FREE UP SPACE FOR THOSE ESSENTIAL OFFICES IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          BUT THERE IS A PARKING NEED, ESPECIALLY ON A DAY, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE JURY TRIAL AND EVERY OTHER COURT IS RUNNING A DOCKET. 
          I REMEMBER WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WAS IN THE, UH, WHEN PRISONERS WERE BROUGHT IN, UH, I GUESS I CAN USE THAT TERM, BUT ANYWAY, THEY WERE BROUGHT IN IN THE BACK FOR SECURITY AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO COURT EMPLOYEES GET IN AND OUT IN A SAFE MANNER? AND IT JUST STRUCK ME THAT THERE WAS KIND OF LITTLE, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY CHAOTIC AND PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO WALK LONG DISTANCES TO GET TO THEIR JOB, TO DO THE JOB WHILE WE, THEY HAD TO SECURE THE PRISONERS THAT WERE PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN IN JAIL THAT WERE BRINGING THAT BEING BROUGHT TO THE COURT. 
          AND I JUST, I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BUILD A, YOU CAN BUILD A TAJ MAHAL OF, OF COURTHOUSES, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARKING SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THERE, I MEAN, IT'S A PROBLEM. 
          SO I, MR. SHEPHERD, I AGREE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND SAFETY I THINK HAS IMPROVED. 
          NUMBER ONE, WE'VE GOT THE BEST DEPUTIES AROUND. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M NEVER CONCERNED ABOUT MY WELLBEING OR THE WELFARE OF ANY VISITOR TO THE COURTHOUSE. 
          THEY'RE THAT GOOD. 
          BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE HUMAN AND YOU'VE GOTTA IMPLEMENT SOME OTHER SAFETY, UH, MEASURES. 
          SO WE HAVE ADJUSTED, WE'VE CHANGED THE FRONT. 
          UH, WHEN I FIRST USED TO PRACTICE LAW AND COME OVER HERE AS, AS A PROSECUTOR OR AS PRIVATE COUNSEL, YOU WALKED IN AND THERE WAS ONE OR TWO DEPUTIES TO THE RIGHT MM-HMM . 
          AND IT WAS NOT A SAFE SETUP FOR THE DEPUTIES OR ANYONE IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          SO WE RECONFIGURED AND WE HAVE THE DEPUTIES NOW FACING THE FRONT DOORS SO THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S COMING AT 'EM. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A NICE CAMERA SYSTEM, UH, AND WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. 
          BUT I'LL TELL YOU, UH, MY FIRST YEAR ON THE BENCH FIRE ALARM GOES OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF COURT. 
          I HAD A MURDER SUSPECT IN FRONT OF ME IN CIRCUIT COURT, UH, FOR HIS HEARING. 
          AND THE FIRE ALARM GOES OUT AND EVERYBODY'S RUSHING OUT THE FRONT DOOR. 
          AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, HOW SAFE IS THAT FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES, ALL THE PROSECUTORS, ALL THE CLERKS, EVERYBODY IN THE COURTHOUSE EXITING THROUGH THE SAME DOOR TO STAND OUT FRONT WAITING TO SEE IF IT IS, IF THERE'S A A, A FIRE OR NOT. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE SAT AND WE SPOKE ABOUT IT AND TRIED TO CONFIGURE BETTER WAYS TO ADDRESS EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS WE NEED, UH, MORE TOOLS AT OUR HANDS TO SECURE THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE COURTHOUSE AS WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE VISITING THE COURTHOUSE. 
          THE DEPUTIES DO THEIR BEST, BUT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS HUMAN ERROR AND THERE'S THERE FLAWS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. 
          BUT SOME OF IT'S THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          I THINK WHAT YOU SEE, MR. SHEPHERD, WHEN YOU VISIT, IS THE COURTS THAT CURRENTLY ARE IN THE PLACES THAT THEY ARE. 
          THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          STEVEN, YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ILLUMINATING THE, THE, THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO COURTHOUSE THAN JUST COURTROOMS AND TRIAL ROOMS. AND I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT AS WELL. 
          MY LAST TOUR THERE, THAT WAS REALLY BIG IMPRESSION UPON ME, ALL OF THE COURTHOUSE RELATED FUNCTIONS BEYOND TRIAL THAT WAS RELATED. 
          AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE, INDIVIDUALS DON'T USE EVERY DAY, BUT DO GET EXERCISED EVERY DAY BY SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO THE, THE SCOPE IS SO MUCH LARGER THAN THIS. 
          WE JUST NEED ANOTHER TRIAL, UH, A COURT ROOM AND IN AN OFFICE FOR A TRIAL JUDGE, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT HAPPENS IN A COUNTY COURTHOUSE. 
          SO AGAIN, A BIG IMPRESSION 
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UPON ME THE LAST TIME I TOURED, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE NIGHT AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, NOT JUST ANOTHER COURTROOM, BUT ALL OF THAT FUNCTION THAT HAPPENS IN WHAT WE CALL A COURTHOUSE. 
          SO THANK YOU, MR. ROSS. 
          THANK YOU, UH, WAYNE, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          SO THANK YOU JUDGE, UH, FOR COMING AND, AND SHEDDING LIGHT ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'VE BEEN HAVING. 
          AND I KNOW WHEN I DID THE TOUR AND, AND, AND KRISTEN, UH, WALKED ME AROUND AND WE TALKED, WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT POSSIBLY MOVING SOME OF THE, AS YOU SAY, THE NON-ESSENTIAL, UM, OFFICES OUT OF THE COURTROOM TO FREE UP SOME SPACE. 
          AND ALSO, KRISTEN AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT STEVEN HAD BROUGHT UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL DATA, RIGHT. 
          AND, UH, SO SHE'S, I KNOW SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT. 
          IT'S BEEN SOME ISSUES AND SOME CHALLENGES IN MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE WE CAN GET A HANDLE ON THAT MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK THE NON-ESSENTIAL THINGS THAT CAN COME OUT OF THERE, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO US TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN PUT 'EM AND FREE UP SOME OF THAT SPACE FOR THE SHORT TERM ANYWAY, SO YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT TO GET THAT DONE IF AS SOON AS WE CAN FIGURE ALL THIS OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          WELL, MY, MY QUESTIONS WERE MORE, UM, GOING FORWARD, HOW DO, HOW DO WE, UM, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS? AND I THINK, I THINK THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS LISTEN TO OUR CIP DISCUSSION AND THEN PERHAPS COME BACK AND DISCUSS WHAT DO WE NEED TO ADD TO THE OVERALL CIP TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. 
          I THINK THE, UM, THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH. 
          ONE OF, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I MADE TO MARK WAS IF SOCIAL SERVICES WERE ADDED AS A THIRD FLOOR TO YOUR BUILDING ON THE ANNEX, UH, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE OR, OR GAIN, UH, STATE FUNDING FOR, UH, FOR LOCATING THEM IN THAT BUILDING? THE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT I WANT THE CONSULTANT TO KIND OF GO AWAY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE BEST CONFIGURATION, WHAT GIVES US THE MOST STATE BENEFIT, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG BILL. 
          I THINK THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO, UM, TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE RECOVERY COURT, AS YOU SAY IS, UH, REGIONAL. 
          UH, SO SHOULD YORK COUNTY CITIZENS ON THEIR OWN BE PAYING FOR THIS? UM, I, I THINK, UH, IT BEHOOVES US TO, UH, MEET WITH OUR DELEGATE ELECT. 
          MARK, I'D, I'D LIKE YOU TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR AND YOURSELF AND CALL IN, UH, DR. 
          DOWNEY AND LET'S, LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN THEY DO AT A STATE LEVEL THAT WOULD HELP US THROUGH THE SITUATION, GIVEN THAT SOME OF ITS, SOME OF ITS REGIONAL COURTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. 
          AND, AND FRANKLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE STATE. 
          AND I, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT AVENUES WE HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          UH, I THINK, JUDGE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COURTHOUSE? THE YORK POCOS COURTHOUSE. 
          DR. 
          POCOS. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RAISED TODAY, OF COURSE IS, IS HAVING OCN BE PART OF THE FINANCING AND PLANNING OF THIS. 
          AND TO DATE, WE DON'T HAVE THEIR SUPPORT FINANCIALLY. 
          AND, BUT REGARDLESS, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. 
          AND GOING FORWARD, WE WILL DO THE VERY BEST WE CAN BECAUSE THE NEED IS DEFINITELY THERE. 
          AND I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME AND EXPLAIN BETTER THAN WE COULD EXPLAIN THE NEEDS OF YOUR COURT. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          YEAH, I, I GUESS IN SUMMARY, THERE'S A CLEAR NEED TO EXPAND THE COURTS. 
          THERE'S A CLEAR NEED TO MOVE SOME OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES OUT OF A BUILDING THAT IS ON THE GROUNDS OF THE COURT, AND THAT DRIVES THE OVERALL DECISION ON ABSOLUTELY ON SPACE AND, AND ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. 
          UH, I, I THINK WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WE'RE WE'RE ALMOST 26,000 SQUARE FEET OF, OF SPACE IN THE, IN THE, UH, BUILDING NEXT TO THE COURT. 
          AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S GOTTA BE REPLACED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDAS A CITIZENS' COMMENT. 
          NOPE. 
          CIPI THOUGHT THIS IS C-I-P-C-I-P. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I PROBABLY SHOULD PUT ON MY GLASSES. 
          . 
          SO WE'LL 
          [5. CIP Presentation. Receive presentation from Mark L. Bellamy, Jr., County Administrator.]
HAVE THE CIP PRESENTATION BY OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THANK YOU, MRS. NOLL. 
          MR. THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, JUST YESTERDAY THAT WE DID THIS MM-HMM . 
          BUT WE WILL START IT AGAIN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE, UH, BASICS. 
          WE'LL HAVE FEW SLIDES HERE JUST TO REMIND FOLKS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO THIS IS THE COUNTY'S MULTI-YEAR CIP IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS, UH, THAT WOULD DIRECTLY SUPPORT WHAT HAS THE BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED AS THEIR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU THAT 
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THIS IS NOT ONLY A SCHEDULE ABOUT SPENDING, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT FUNDING. 
          HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? SO WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION. 
          WE'RE GIVING YOU BOTH SIDES. 
          AND FINALLY, THIS DOES ADHERE TO THE BOARD'S FINANCIAL, UM, RATIOS. 
          WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN JUST A FEW MINUTE WITH THE DEBT POLICY. 
          REMEMBER, UH, AS WE'VE SAID MANY YEARS OVER THE PAST THAT YEAR, ONE REPRESENTS YOUR FUNDING COMMITMENTS. 
          THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE INCLUDE IN NEXT YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH WE'LL PRESENT TO YOU IN MARCH. 
          YEARS TWO THROUGH SIX ARE BASICALLY A PLAN FOR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. 
          UH, DURING THOSE TIMES, WE DO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR INFLATION AND THE TIMING OF SOME PROJECTS AFTER WE GET STARTED, UH, ON A PARTICULAR FAMILY OF PRODUCTS. 
          SOMETIMES, UM, PROJECTS WE SOMETIMES WE FIND THAT, UH, THEY NEED TO GO IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT ORDER THAN WE ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED. 
          SO THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. 
          AND I WILL ALSO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, WE HAD A RETREAT THIS YEAR. 
          THE BOARD TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT SOME NEIGHBORING COUNTIES TO SEE HOW THEY DO BUSINESS. 
          AND WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME CIP AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE SERIOUSLY DISCUSSING CIP THAT WOULD BE LONGER THAN SIX YEARS, WHICH ALLOWS US A BETTER PLANNING HORIZON FOR THE FUTURE. 
          SO THE PROCESS IS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, GET TOGETHER. 
          THEY TALK ABOUT IN INSIDE THEMSELVES, THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THEY MIGHT NEED, AND THEY MAKE THIS REQUEST. 
          AND IT COMES TO A COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          UH, MR. ANDERSON USUALLY HEADS THIS OFF AS THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          THEY ALSO MEET WITH THE SCHOOLS. 
          THE SCHOOLS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE CIP PROCESS. 
          THEY ARE A LARGE PART OF WHAT WE DO IN THE CIP AND AFTER THEY HAVE ALL MET AND COME TO, UH, SOME CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S AFFORDABLE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S PLENTY OF COMPETITION FOR THE FUNDS AND RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN AFTER THEY'VE DONE THAT, THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO ME AND I'LL SIT DOWN AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT I MIGHT ALSO TRIM FROM IT. 
          THAT ALL BRINGS US TO THE FY 27, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET. 
          HERE WE SEE THE SIX YEAR CIP BY CATEGORY, THE GENERAL FUNDED PROJECTS TOTAL 260 MILLION WITH PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY OTHER FUNDS TOTALING 64 MILLION. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A SIX YEAR PLAN, AND YEAR ONE REPRESENTS FUNDING COMMITMENTS THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN YOUR FY 27 OPERATING BUDGET. 
          BASICALLY, THERE ARE THREE MAJOR CHANGES, UH, FROM WHAT YOU SAW IN FY 26 TO FY 27, AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE REAL QUICK. 
          IN THIS FY 27 BUDGET, WE'VE INCLUDED A PLACEHOLDER THAT REFLECTS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SPACE STUDY THAT YOU ALL JUST, UH, GOT. 
          WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO FULLY FUND THE ASSOCIATED PROJECTS, IT PROVIDES AN INITIAL ALLOCATION THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR DEBT POLICIES AND AVAILABLE CASH FUNDING. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU SAID THERE'S A PLACEHOLDER. 
          WHERE IS THAT NEXT PAGE? WHAT'D YOU SAY, TOM? HANG ON, LOOK BY PLACEHOLDER. 
          WRONG SCREEN UP HERE. 
          ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT'LL SHOW, IT'LL SHOW ON ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          202 MILLION. 
          2 MILLION. 
          YES SIR. 
          2 MILLION. 
          THE SCREEN NEEDS TO JUMP FORWARD. 
          WELL, IT, IT WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS TO MAKE. 
          'CAUSE WHAT I SAID WAS THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT ARE BASICALLY DIFFERENT BETWEEN THIS YEAR'S AND LAST YEAR'S. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FROM THE SPACE STUDY AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THE BOARD WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, ALSO, UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED DESIGN AND FUNDING FOR THE NORTH COUNTY LIBRARY, SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN WE HAVE DELAYED THE PEER REPLACEMENT. 
          WE'VE PUSHED IT OUT OFF THE SIX YEAR CIP, SO IT WOULDN'T OCCUR AT THE EARLIEST IT WOULD OCCUR IN FY 33. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY'S DONE FOR THE SCHOOLS. 
          UH, THE QUEENS LAKE EXPANSION'S BEEN MOVED UP ONE YEAR TO FY 27 AND CONSOLIDATED THE BRUTON RENOVATIONS AS WELL. 
          ADDITIONALLY, FOR THE SCHOOLS, BETHEL MANOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RENOVATIONS ARE A RESULT OF SOME FEDERAL FUNDS THAT IT APPEARS 
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THAT THEY WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO DO WORK AT, UH, BETHEL MANOR. 
          SO, MR. SHEPHERD, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THE SPACE STUDY IMPLEMENTATION PLACEHOLDER. 
          UH, WE HAVE IT HERE ON THIS. 
          THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, MANY OF THE COUNTY FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, NEED RENOVATION TO ENHANCE THE FAC EFFICIENCY AND TO BETTER SUPPORT THE WORK THAT WE DO. 
          MARK ONE INTERRUPTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE BETHEL MANOR 3.2 MILLION, SHOULDN'T IT SHOW UNDER THE OTHER FUNDS ON THE FIRST PAGE? IT WILL SHOW IN A, IN A LATER SLIDE BACK HERE ON THE SCHOOLS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE SIX YEAR TOTAL. 
          AND SHOULDN'T IT SHOW AS A, NOT IN GENERAL FUND, BUT AS, UH, OTHER FUNDS? NO, BECAUSE WE SEPARATE THE SCHOOLS OUT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT SHORTLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES CATEGORY, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS COMPLETED, UH, THAT LEFT SPACE VACATED BY THE SHERIFF IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT RENOVATION AND THAT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY ADMINISTRATION. 
          WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE IT OFFICE SPACE CONSOLIDATION, UH, THAT IS ON THE PUBLIC WORKS CAMPUS THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WE'RE ALLOCATING, UH, WITH THIS $250,000 FOR A ONE TIME PROJECT THAT WILL UPGRADE, UPGRADE OUR PLAN REVIEW PROCESS FOR ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION. 
          I KNOW MR. DREW AND I HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AT A COUPLE INTERVALS THERE, WHICH, UH, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YOU'RE JUMPING BACK AND FORTH ON THESE SLIDES. 
          SO WHICH ONE HAVE, HAVE YOU JUST, YOU YOU FINISHED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY? NO, SIR. 
          I'M JUST GETTING READY TO GET STARTED ON PUBLIC SAFETY . 
          I GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT THAT UP HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, A FEW THINGS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CATEGORY THAT INCLUDE THE FY 27 BUDGET, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AN ARMORED VEHICLE, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT THAT PURCHASE IS NOT COUNTY FUNDED. 
          IT WOULD BE FUNDED BY ASSET FORFEITURE MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LIFECYCLE REPLACEMENT FOR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY EQUIPMENT AS WHERE, AS WELL AS THE BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENT. 
          THIS CATEGORY ALSO INCLUDES, UH, COUPLE REGIONAL RADIO ISSUES, THE REGIONAL RADIO PROJECT LIFECYCLE AND THE ONE TIME REPLACEMENT OF CAD RMS SERVERS AT THE ECC. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME FUNDING AND REPAIR MAINTENANCE MONEY TO, UH, HELP THE COUNTY MAINTAIN OUR FIRE ALARMS AND COUNTY FACILITIES. 
          PUBLIC WORKS HAS A HOST OF PROJECTS, AS THEY ALWAYS DO. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNDING FOR VARIOUS BUILDING REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC WORKS CATEGORY INCLUDES FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT GRANT MATCHES. 
          THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE USED TO LEVERAGE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH REVENUE SHARING AND TRANSPORTATION SET ASIDE. 
          I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE CATEGORIES, THEY'RE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. 
          THE, UM, SIDEWALKS? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S UNDER PUBLIC WORKS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THIS TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT, $1.8 MILLION UNDER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM. 
          SO I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A, I GOT A LITTLE HEARTBURN HERE ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE DAY WHEN I WAS, UH, WE HAD THIS PUBLIC WORK SEWER EXPLOSION DOWN THERE IN, UH, SORRY, UM, ON KROP NECK ROAD, NOT KROP NECK, BUT YORKTOWN ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WAS SEEING THE PROBLEMS THAT WHEN THEY DID THAT, IT SHUTS THE, THEY HAD TO SHUT THE ROAD DOWN FOR MOST OF THE DAY, WHICH CREATES JUST, UH, AN ORDINATE PROBLEM ON VICTORY BOULEVARD. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE SEEN THAT. 
          NOW, IF YOU GO UP, GET UP THERE TO FRONT OF TAB HIGH SCHOOL, AND YOU GO ON DOWN TO MOUNT VERNON WHERE A LOT OF YOUR KIDS IN YOUR DISTRICT GO TO, I'M SITTING THERE WATCHING THE KIDS WALK IN THE YARDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IT TO THE STREET. 
          AND, AND THIS IS BRINGING TO MIND OUR PRIORITIZATION ON SIDEWALKS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE ARE BUILDING SIDEWALKS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS, THAT TO ME IS NOT A PRIORITY. 
          WHAT'S A PRIORITY IS MAKING SURE WE'RE BUILDING SIDEWALKS WHERE WE NEED 'EM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MINIMUM. 
          THAT'S THE START. 
          AND I'M, AND I, AND I'M JUST, UH, I, ANYWAY, I WANT, I, I DON'T NEED TO COVER IT NOW, BUT IF WE'RE NOT, IF I SEE US BUILDING 
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SIDEWALKS IN THE WOODS, I'M GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          OR DOWN SOME, SOME STREET THAT NO ONE GOES DOWN. 
          BUT, UH, I JUST, I JUST WANNA TRESS THIS. 
          SO WE BETTER BE SPENDING THAT COUNTY MONEY ON PUBLIC, BASICALLY ON PUBLIC SAFETY WHERE KIDS CAN COME DOWN THAT CAN WALK AND NOT BE IN THE DITCH. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. SHEPHERD, DO DULY NOTED. 
          I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THE BOARD HAS APPROVED FOUR SIDEWALK PROJECTS IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I BELIEVE ALL FOUR ARE SCHOOLS RUN TO SCHOOLS. 
          SCHOOLS GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO WE, WE ARE TRYING TO MEET THAT MANDATE. 
          THAT IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OFF TO THE SCHOOLS HERE. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE $3.2 MILLION FOR BETHEL MANOR, THE CLASSROOM EXPANSION, THIS APPEARS HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FY 27. 
          THIS IS A RESULT OF A FEDERAL EARMARK THAT IT APPEARS OR GRANT THAT IT APPEARS WE WILL GET. 
          UM, DR. 
          CAROL IS WORKING ON THIS VERY DILIGENTLY AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THIS. 
          THIS WILL BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT SCHOOL. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HERE, BUS LOOP, UH, QUEENS LAKE, UH, CLASSROOM EXPANSION, BRUTON, HVAC PROJECT, AND AGAIN, TAB HIGH SCHOOL WILL COME BACK, UH, FOR THE SECOND PART. 
          AND THEN SOME OTHER PROJECTS, MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTS THEY HAVE IN THERE FOR A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL IN FY 27 OF ROUGHLY $27 MILLION. 
          SO MARK, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT UNDER THE TAB HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATION, WHEN WE WERE TALKING 40 SOME MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR, THAT IT'S NOW COME IN THE, THE, THE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS LESS OF A REQUIREMENT FOR FUNDING, A REDUCTION IN FUNDING, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I GOT THAT THANKS TO DOUG GIVING ME A CALL. 
          THAT'S A HELL OF A WAY FOR ME TO FIND OUT ABOUT STUFF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN WE GET, WE START GETTING THIS STUFF, I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO GET IT. 
          EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET IT. 
          YOU CAN'T HOLD A LITTLE MEETING SOMEWHERE AND THE REST OF THE BOARD NOT GETS THIS STUFF. 
          AND SO I'VE ASKED DOUG, WHEN YOU GUYS AND SHEILA, WHATEVER CHAIRMAN GOES TO THE, OR THE VICE CHAIRMAN GOES TO THESE MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE GETTING NEW INFORMATION ON THAT TO PUT A, AT LEAST GIVE US A SUMMARY, ESPECIALLY KEY ITEMS. SO WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NOW, BECAUSE UNTIL THIS MEETING, UNTIL I GOT THE CALL AND TALK TODAY, I THOUGHT, OKAY, WE'RE STILL LOOKING ABOUT 40 SOME MILLION DOLLARS FOR WE RENOVATION AND WE'RE NOT. 
          SO THIS 18 MILLION HERE, UM, DOES THIS REFLECT THE SAVINGS YET OR, UH, FOR THE CIP THAT FROM THIS, FROM THIS? OR IS THIS SOMETHING NEW? THIS A NEW NUMBER? NO, THIS IS, THEY, THEY HAVE CHANGED SOME NUMBERS VERY RECENTLY AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH MS. GOODWIN THAT YEAH, THIS IS OR IS NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS THE SAME NUMBER THAT YOU SAW IN THE PLAN LAST YEAR. 
          AND SO THE TOTAL COST AT ONE POINT, I THINK WAS AROUND $43 MILLION. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AROUND THE $40 MILLION MARK. 
          THEY DID GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THEIR MOST RECENT PLANS AND WE ARE GONNA BE FURTHER REFINING THAT NUMBER THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          OUR PLAN IS TO BRING THE SCHOOLS TO ONE OF YOUR WORK SESSIONS DURING THE BUDGET TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TAB AND WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUT THEY'RE A LOT FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE CAN SPEAK WITH SOME MORE SPECIFICITY ON HOW MUCH THIS IS IN TOTAL. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS STILL THE NUMBER, THE SECOND YEAR OF FUNDING THAT YOU SAW IN LAST YEAR'S PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHERE THE, WHERE THE SAVINGS MAY BE REFLECTED IN OUR CIP IF IT'S COMING IN LESS, ESPECIALLY A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE CIP SOMEWHERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT'S IN YEAR, EITHER ON THE END OR IN THE FRONT. 
          I THINK IT'S IN YEAR THREE, WHICH IS OF OKAY. 
          MAKES FISCAL YEAR 28. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A, WE HAVE THAT IN HERE YET THAT WE HAVET GOT THAT'LL IN YOUR BOOK. 
          THAT'LL BE THE BOOK. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST, OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THEY, UH, DR. 
          CAROL HAD INDICATED THAT THEY'RE AT THE 65% ENGINEERING POINT. 
          UH, THEY'VE GOT A MUCH BETTER DEFINITION ON SCOPE. 
          UH, THEY, THEY THOUGHT THE BUILDING ONLY CHANGES WOULD COME IN AROUND 37 MILLION, BUT A COUPLE MORE MILLION FOR SOME OF THE FACILITIES THEY NEED WITH IT. 
          SO, BUT STILL UNDER 40. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          BUT THEY'VE CHANGED THE KIND OF THE, THE DISCUSSION WE WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE FIGHTING OVER A COUPLE MILLION HERE, MILLIONAIRE. 
          BUT THE POINT IS THE NUMBERS ARE STILL FLUID. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          I JUST, THEY HAVE TAKEN IT TO HEART AND WORKED IT HARD IN THE PAST YEAR, I THINK IS THE MESSAGE AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE. 
          CAN WE ANTICIPATE THAT DALE ELEMENTARY WORK WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THE, UH, TRAFFIC BACK UP ON DARE ROAD DURING PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS? THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE. 
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WELL, I MEAN, THERE IT IS. 
          NOT MY PROJECT . 
          WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET, BUT WE, WE WOULD ASK FOR IT OTHERWISE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BEFORE WE FUND IT THOUGH, WE WANNA SEE, WE GET THE RESULTS OUT OF IT THAT WE WANT. 
          WE CERTAINLY, WE WE'LL DO MORE FOLLOW UP. 
          THAT COULD BE A TOPIC DURING YOUR, YOUR MEETING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ALONG. 
          OTHER FUNDS. 
          THE STORMWATER FUND AS YOU RECALL, UM, IS 50% OF THE MEALS TAX IS ALLOCATED TO STORMWATER SEWER OR WATER UTILITY FUND AS NEEDED. 
          SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THAT MONEY COMES FROM. 
          THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR FY 27. 
          UH, MAR BANK COVE RAVINES, WHICH IS A SITUATION THAT IS MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AT QUEENS LAKE, UH, THE MIDDLE WOOD LANE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, 1 34 BAYBERRY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE DO SOME IN-HOUSE PROJECTS EVERY YEAR, UH, SUCH AS, UH, LARC AND RUN STARTED OFF AS THAT. 
          UH, BUT IT'S GOTTEN A LITTLE BIGGER THAN WHAT OUR FORCES COULD HANDLE. 
          SO IT'S MOVED ON TO A REGULAR PROJECT, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE $750,000. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SOME LINING OF STORMWATER PIPES AS WELL. 
          AND SOME NEW EQUIPMENT FOR THE STORMWATER CONSTRUCTION CREW. 
          VERY BRIEFLY, SOLID WASTE, UH, MANAGEMENT FUND WOULD SPEND $75,000 MAINTAINING THEIR GRAVEL ROAD BACK TOWARDS VSA AND THE WHITE METAL PILE. 
          AND, AND, AND I WILL ATTEST THAT THAT ROAD NEEDS SOME ATTENTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          NEEDS SOME WORK, DOESN'T IT? YES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE BIG TRUCK, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD'VE MADE IT OVER IT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          THAT MUCH LIKE LUNAR LANDSCAPE, I THINK I WOULD'VE, I HAVEN'T DRIVEN ON THAT BEFORE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE SO. 
          YES SIR. 
          SOME SPEED BUMPS DOWN THERE. 
          SEWER UTILITY FUND, THEY CREATED OWN SPEED BUMPS AS JUST ONE, UH, SEWER LINE REHABILITATION, PUMP STATION REHABILITATION. 
          THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU, UH, WOULD EXPECT, UH, TO SEE YEAR TO YEAR IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, FUND HERE. 
          ALSO A LITTLE EX LINE EXTENSION, $4 MILLION FOR THAT. 
          SO, OH, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FUND, $310,000 IN TOTAL. 
          UH, MARK, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, THE SEWER UTILITY FUND, UM, REMIND ME, IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE ENTERPRISE FUND? NO, THIS IS THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          THIS IS THE ENTERPRISE FUND, OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          VEHICLE MAINTENANCE IS NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT'S AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND. 
          THESE, THESE ARE CHARGED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT USE THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AS I SAID EARLIER WHEN WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION, SO NOT ONLY IS THIS A PLAN, A PROJECT PLAN OR A WORK PLAN FOR FY 27, BUT THAT WE WOULD ALSO SHOW YOU HOW THESE WERE GONNA GET PAID FOR MM-HMM . 
          SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, THE GENERAL FUND SECTION IS ON THE TOP. 
          IT'S THE TOP CHART AND, UH, $44.5 MILLION IN TOTAL, UH, FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF DEBT FINANCING GRANTS, SOME CARRYOVER RESERVE AS WELL, AND SOME BORROWING. 
          THE, THE CHART BELOW THAT IS ALL OTHER FUNDS, THOSE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, ET CETERA. 
          AS YOU RECALL, THE BOARD HAS A DEBT POLICY. 
          IT'S POLICY 14 DASH 26. 
          UM, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WOULD FINANCE, WHAT WE WON'T FINANCE, AND THE DEBT POLICY IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEND IN TERMS OF NOT TO EXCEED 3% OF THE NET ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR TAXABLE PROPERTY. 
          WE HAVE TWO MEASUREMENTS, THAT'S ONE OF 'EM. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS NOT YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS WON'T EXCEED 10% OF YOUR BUDGET. 
          GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. 
          MARK, YOU'LL COME BACK DURING THE RETREAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          CIP WILL BE ANOTHER. 
          UH, WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE RETREAT IN JANUARY THAT I THINK WE WANT TO EXPLORE. 
          WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE ON FUNDING AND ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES? UH, I SEE RECENTLY WHAT JCC DID AROUND EDA AROUND THE EDA USING THE EDA TO FUND PROJECT. 
          I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE WILL WORK ON THAT. 
          AND PFM ARE FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS. 
          WELL, I'M SORRY, DOUG, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. 
          THE, THE RECENT, UH, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, UM, DECISION BY JCCI BELIEVE IT WAS 180 MILLION. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY FUNDED THROUGH THEIR EDA. 
          RIGHT. 
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THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE. 
          I PASSED ON AN TOO, IT WAS AN INTERESTING TWIST. 
          I I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS DONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS THERE, IS THERE APPLICABILITY OF THAT IN YOUR COUNTY? UM, DO WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS ASIDE FROM THESE DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICIES THAT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AT THE RETREAT. 
          AS, AS I SAID, PFM WILL BE AT YOUR RETREAT. 
          OUR FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS, OH, THAT'S, AND WE ARE ASKING THEM TO BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THAT TYPE SUBJECT. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT YOUR DEBT DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICIES, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. 
          AND IF YOU CARRY THE CIP OUT WHERE OUT TO 32, THIS IS WHERE WE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD END UP. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, UH, IN TERMS OF THOSE RATIOS. 
          HERE'S THE IMPACT OF THE CIP ON GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO WHILE FY 27 TO 32 IS WITHIN OUR DEBT POLICY, WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER AFFORDABILITY AS INCREASES IN DEBT, INCREASE OUR OPERATING BUDGET EXPENSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE IN FY 26 COMPARED TO HOW IT WOULD INCREASE IF WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS CIP PLAN. 
          THE RED PORTION SHOWS THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD OCCUR FROM 27 TO 32. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, A AS YOU HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT ON THIS SPACE STUDY, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THAT AND PROVIDE INSTRUCTION TO STAFF ON A CIB, UH, BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR DIRECTION ON THE CIP ON ANY OF THESE TOPICS AS WELL AS THE SPACE STUDY. 
          SO CLEARLY THE CONSULTANT WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE STUDY AND CONFIRM WHAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED IN THE COURTHOUSE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE HAVE, I THINK ENGINEERING SCOPE DEFINED TO BE ABLE TO THEN MOVE FORWARD TO A, AN ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT COST US? AND HAVE WE BUILT ENOUGH INTO THE CIP TO ADDRESS THAT? PROB PROBABLY NOT. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT. 
          YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND. 
          PROBABLY YOU NEED, YOU NEEDED ABOUT ANOTHER MILLION FOR THE SPACE STUDY. 
          RIGHT? I, I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT, BUT WE HAD, WE DID TALK TO, UM, PMA AND THEIR PRINCIPAL WAS HERE IN THE, IN THE AU AUDIENCE TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH, UH, THE OTHER FOLKS GAVE THE PRESENTATIONS AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT VERY TOPIC AND HE WANTED TO GET WITH US TOMORROW TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO A DETAILED COST ESTIMATE AND, AND HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD SUCH THAT IN FUTURE CIP, UH, REVISIONS 28 AND BEYOND MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN START TO INCLUDE THOSE, UH, THOSE COSTS. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE. 
          WE HEARD IT VERY CLEAR OF NO, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. 
          SO IF WE CAN MAKE ALL THE COMMENTS WE WANT. 
          WELL, I THINK WHAT DOUG'S WHAT DOUG'S HITTING ON HERE IS THAT WE WANT A MORE REFINED NUMBER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I SENT OUT A REPORT THE OTHER DAY, ITS 75 TO 90, NO, 70 TO NINE. 
          I DON'T 75 TO 95 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION. 
          IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD REFINE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN 180 MILLION, BUT I MEAN, UH, I THINK, I THINK DOUG RECOMMENDED A 35% MAYBE A, A 35%, UH, A AND E AND THEN, UM, GET THAT GOING SO WE COULD START TALKING SOME, SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS NUMBER'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROCESS THE SCHOOLS ARE FOLLOWING, RIGHT. 
          THEY GO THROUGH A 10% STUDY OF 35 AND 65, AND BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO 65, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH LANDED ON WHAT ARE THE ACCEPTABLE BIDS. 
          UH, BUT CLEARLY IN YEAR ONE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AT LEAST A 10% STUDY IF OR, OR EVEN POTENTIALLY WHAT'S IT TAKE TO GET THE 35% STUDY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN YOUR GUIDES TO ME WOULD BE TO TAKE THIS TO 35%. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I THINK SO THE IDEA IS THAT TO KEEP IT IN MIND THAT IF THIS IS A $90 MILLION PROJECT, THE, IF I, IF I RECALL OUR DISCUSSION, THE A AND E PORTION OF THIS IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND $9 MILLION, RIGHT? YES SIR. 
          NINE, $10 MILLION. 
          SO THAT'S A HUNK OF CHANGE. 
          SO IF WE CAN SPEND 3 MILLION RIGHT NOW, WE'LL GET AN IDEA OF WHERE, WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, WITH THAT NUMBER. 
          SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SURPRISED 'CAUSE WE GOTTA GET IT DONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
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AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS WITHOUT PUSHING SOMETHING ELSE OFF THE TABLE. 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'RE PUSHING THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT WAS PROJECT OFF ALREADY. 
          SO, UM, WE MIGHT END UP HAVING TO DO IT AGAIN TO STAY WITHIN OUR, OUR UH, OUR PARAMETERS. 
          RIGHT? I THINK THIS IS THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAD LAST YEAR WITH, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL AT TAB. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE A AND E DONE AND THEY WERE JUST THROWING NUMBERS AT US. 
          AND NOW WE COME BACK NOW AND WE SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE LOWER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET OUR NUMBERS CLOSER UPFRONT SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. 
          I THINK THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US OVERALL FOR US TO CONSIDER IT. 
          WE KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND AS WE GO FORWARD WITH IT, IT'LL BE MORE, IT'LL BE FINE TUNED AND WE'LL GET MORE REALISTIC NUMBERS, BUT YOU HAVE TO START WITH THE HIGHER NUMBER AND WORK DOWN. 
          YOU WOULD NOT WANNA START WITH A LOWER NUMBER AND HAVE TO GO WAY UP. 
          , MA'AM? I ALWAYS START WITH THE LOW NUMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          OH NO, ME TOO. 
          I ALWAYS WORK THE OTHER WAY. 
          HOW LONG WOULD YOU THINK IT'D TAKE TO GET A WHITE IS PERCENT A AND E PIE IN THE SKY? IT, IT WILL LARGELY DEPEND ON THE SCHEDULE OF THE ARCHITECT. 
          UH, BUT I WOULD THINK WE COULD GET THERE IN SOMETHING AROUND SIX MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE IDEA IS DON'T DRAG THIS ON FOREVER SO WE CAN NO SIR. 
          THINGS GOING ON. 
          NO, I I THINK WE'LL NEED IT TO INFORM YOUR NEXT CIP. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT. 
          WE WANT AS FIRM A NUMBER AS WE CAN GET FOR THE 28 UH, CYCLE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO LET'S SEE WHAT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SPACE STUDY NOW, AND IT SAYS HERE, AS YOU SAID, FURTHER REFINEMENT AS THE OPERATING BUDGET IS DEVELOPED. 
          AND NOW WE'VE GOT YOUR MEETINGS WITH THE, WITH THE BOARD ON BUDGET ONE-ON-ONES COMING UP, AND THEN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RETREAT. 
          DO YOU WANNA DISCUSS THE RETREAT NOW OR LATER? UH, I THINK AS WE, WE HAVE AN OUTLINE FOR THE RETREAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE READY, NOT READY FOR IT TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN DETAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU HAVE IS PLANNING COMMISSION CERTIFICATION. 
          THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE'LL NEED TO TAKE. 
          UH, THE CIP TYPICALLY IS CERTIFIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IT IS IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT WILL HAPPEN DURING THE BUDGET SEASON. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THERE'LL BE THE PRESENTATION OF THE CIP. 
          WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT WITH FY 17? WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO BE? SO THE CIP WILL ADDRESS AGAIN AT THE RETREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I WOULD IMAGINE AT LEAST TWO MORE TIMES DURING THE BUDGET SEASON AND LIKELY THOSE WOULD BE, UH, AT THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SESSIONS. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU APPROVE THE CIP AS WELL AS THE OPERATING BUDGET IN MAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE YOU, ARE YOU CLEAR ON YOUR GUIDANCE ABOUT THE 35% ON THE EXTRA, THE EXTRA MILLION? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU MR. VALE. 
          VERY MUCH. 
          WE'RE STARTED NEW YEAR ALREADY. 
          [CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]
I HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD. 
          AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I HAVE IS PAM ELLE. 
          NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          YOU KNOW THE TRUTH DRILL. 
          BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANNA EXPLAIN, I'VE HAD SURGERY ON MY TONGUE AND SPEAKING IS DIFFICULT. 
          I'M HARD TO UNDERSTAND, BUT I WILL DO THE BEST I CAN AND YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY BECAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. 
          IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME, MY NAME IS PAM EO. 
          I LIVE AT 1 0 3 KIMBERLY COURT. 
          I DON'T THINK TRUMP HAS EVER SHOPPED IN A GROCERY STORE, ENTERED A WALMART OR HOME DEPOT, TRAVELED IN ANYTHING EXCEPT A CHAUFFEUR LIMOUSINE OR HIS PUMP GAS. 
          DID ANY HOUSEKEEPING TASK, USED A LAWNMOWER OR ENGAGED IN THE CARE OF HIS CHILDREN. 
          HE HAS NEVER WORRIED ABOUT INCOME HOUSING OR HEALTHCARE COSTS. 
          HE HAS NO WAY OF RELATING TO THE AVERAGE AMERICAN AS HE HAS ALWAYS LIVED A LIFE OF PRIVILEGE. 
          MANUFACTURING JOBS ARE DISAPPEARING AT AN ALARMING RATE. 
          IMMIGRANTS WHO MAKE UP A LARGE PORTION OF THE WORKFORCE ARE BEING HELD IN CONCENTRATION CAMP OR DEPORTED TO THIRD WORLD ABUSIVE DICTATORSHIP COUNTRIES IN AFRICA, TARIFFS, FOOD INSECURITY, JOB LOSSES, HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE CRIPPLING THE BUYING POWER OF MOST AMERICANS. 
          YOU WILL PROSPER IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO BUY STOCKS OR CONTRIBUTE TO A RETIREMENT ACCOUNT. 
          MAJORITY OF AMERICANS 
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WHO DO NOT HAVE SUCH AVAILABLE RESOURCES WILL SUFFER ECONOMICALLY. 
          TRUMP GAVE HIMSELF AND HIS BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS 4.5 TRILLION IN TAX BREAKS. 
          TRUMP SAID, I AM YOUR RETRIBUTION. 
          I WILL BE DICTATOR ON DAY ONE. 
          TRUMP WANTS HIS BIRTHDAY TO BE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY. 
          HE WANTS HIS FACE ON COINS AND PAPER MONEY. 
          HIS FACE IS PLASTERED ON HUGE BANNERS HANGING FROM GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS. 
          HIS OBSCENE BALLROOM WILL BEAR HIS NAME. 
          TRUMP WANTS HIS NAME ON DALLAS AIRPORT, THE KENNEDY CENTER, THE COMMANDER'S NEW FOOTBALL STADIUM, AND HIS FACE ON MOUNT RUSHMORE. 
          HOW LONG BEFORE WE ARE RENAMING THE UNITED STATES OF TRUMP? THESE ARE THE EGOCENTRIC DESIRES OF A MADMAN. 
          ATTORNEY GENERAL. 
          PAM BONDY ISSUED A DIRECTIVE ESTABLISHING A WEAPONIZING WEAPONIZATION WORKING GROUP THAT SHE SAYS WILL BE TASKED WITH REVIEWING POLITICIZED ACTIONS OF OFFICIALS WHO INVESTIGATED TRUMP AT BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS. 
          BRAZIL SENT FORMER PRESIDENT BOLSONARO TO PRISON FOR 27 YEARS AND BANNED HIM FROM EVER RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN HIS CRIME. 
          THE SAME IS TRUMP'S JANUARY 6TH INSURRECTION TRUMP SAID WHEN THE INSURRECTIONIST YELLED, HANG MIKE PENCE, MAYBE MIKE DESERVED IT. 
          TRUMP IMPOSED A 50% TARIFF ON BRAZIL OUT OF ANGER THAT BOLSONARO WAS HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 
          OUR GOVERNMENT IS MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE CARIBBEAN FOR THE PERCEIVED DRUG TRAFFICKING WHILE PARTYING. 
          HONDURAN, FORMER PRESIDENT JUAN HERNANDEZ FOR TRAFFICKING 400 TONS OF COCAINE IN THE US. 
          ROSS ALBERG, THE LARGEST WORLDWIDE TRAFFICKER OF DRUGS AND WEAPONS. 
          LARRY HOOVER, A CHICAGO GANG LEADER INVOLVED IN THE DRUG TRADE AND GARNET GILBERT SMITH, A BALTIMORE DRUG KING PEN. 
          TOUGH ON CRIME ONLY REFERS TO THOSE WHO CAN'T BRIBE, AFFORD TO BRIBE OR SUCK UP TO TRUMP. 
          WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE IDOLIZE HIS TRAFFICKER IN HUMAN MISERY? THE EMPEROR IS DARK NAKED AND ALL THEY CAN SEE IS AN OPULENT WARDROBE, A PARTING QUOTE. 
          TERRIBLE THINGS ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE. 
          POOR, HELPLESS PEOPLE ARE BEING DRAGGED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. 
          FAMILIES ARE TORN APART. 
          MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE SEPARATED. 
          CHILDREN COME HOME FROM SCHOOL TO FIND THEIR PARENTS HAVE DISAPPEARED. 
          THAT IS A 1943 QUOTE FROM ANNE FRANK. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. 
          UH, MARK WILLIAMS NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          MARK WILLIAMS FIVE 13 CHARLES ROAD. 
          WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO TURN THE MIC ON? CHECK, CHECK YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA. 
          I DON'T NEED A ZIP, RIGHT? YOU GUYS AREN'T GONNA MAIL ME A CHRISTMAS CARD. 
          ALL THANK YOU. 
          SO IT'S THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, I FIGURED I'D DO A RECAP. 
          I LEFT MY SCROLL DOWN AT THE YORKTOWN PUB, SO I MADE SOME NOTES WITH A MAGIC MARKER. 
          UM, I GUESS I FIRST WANTED TO REFLECT BACK INTO THE SPRINGTIME, NOT REGARDING THIS BOARD REGARDING OUR GRAFTON BASEBALL TEAM. 
          THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL AT RUNNING, WINNING THE REGIONALS. 
          THEY DIDN'T MAKE STATE, BUT THEY WON REGIONALS AND HAD A LOT TO BE PROUD OF. 
          EIGHT IN THE NINE SENIORS OF THAT SCHOOL GRADUATED AND ARE GONE ONTO THEIR ADULT LIVES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          UM, WHILE I'M SITTING HERE REFLECTING ON THIS YEAR END THING, I'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING UP A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING THAT HAS A QUOTE OF THE YEAR FROM THE, UH, BOARD. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU EDIT VIDEO SO WE CAN MAKE IT GO VIRAL. 
          AND THE QUOTE WAS, WHILE HE WAS LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT MAPS REGARDING THE, SINCE HOSPITAL ADULT LIVING CENTER UP THERE IN THE PATH THROUGH THE FOREST WHERE LITTLE RIDE RIDING HOOD LIVES AND THE BIG BED WOLF COMING OVER WITH THE, UH, VIABLE SOLUTION BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, A LADY WAS HER LEAD FOR HER TRUST TO BE ABLE TO GET PHASE ONE DEVELOPED. 
          QUICK THINKING ON SOME QUICK FEAT THAT NIGHT, BUT THE QUOTE WAS, I FEEL LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT PLACES ON EARTH BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PHOTOS WERE LAID OUT, . 
          AND SO THAT WAS WHEN MR. ROLAND, UH, QUOTED THE DAY AND OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, THERE'S SO MUCH TO COVER BECAUSE WHILE THERE WAS SUCH, YOU KNOW, YOUTH WERE HERE, I'VE DEALT WITH THAT BEFORE. 
          I SPOKE WITH THEM DOWNSTAIRS. 
          GREAT SET OF KIDS. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A GREAT FUTURE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, MOVING FORWARD BEFORE I'VE GOT A MINUTE AND SEVEN SECONDS LEFT, I GOTTA SPEAK FAST. 
          I, WELL AS MUCH AS, UM, MR. BELLAMY HAS OFFERED WHAT WE JUST SAW IN THOSE SLIDES, AND YES, THE NUMBERS ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN LOWER AIR GUESS OR SOMETIMES LOWER THAN HIGHER. 
          I DON'T GO TO VEGAS AND I DON'T GAMBLE, SO I TRY TO DEAL WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION WHEN I CAN AND THINGS ARE DYNAMIC AND THEY DO CHANGE, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          UM, AS ALL BUDGET SEASONS COME AND GO, UM, I JUST AS REFLECTED UPON A BIBLE STORY THAT A MAN OFFERED JESUS SOMETHING, EVERYTHING, BUT THERE WAS JUST A COST FOR 
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JESUS TO GET THAT. 
          AND APPARENTLY HE REBUKED IT AND REFUSED IT AND CAME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN FOR HIMSELF AND HUMANITY AS A WHOLE. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ADD INTO PAT, YOU KNOW, TRUCK NEEDS TO CHECK HIMSELF AND BE AS HUMBLE AS HE WAS AFTER HIS EAR GOT SHOT OFF AND REPAIRED IN A DAY. 
          UM, SO THERE'S MY SUPPORT FOR PAM AND HER FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REMEMBER HIS GRAVE AND HIS THERE. 
          THAT ONE DAY WOULD BE A BIG GREAT BIG CASKET. 
          THAT LEAVES ME ONE SECOND. 
          I'LL SAY GOODNIGHT. 
          GOODBYE. 
          AND I'LL SEE YOU GUYS NEW NEXT YEAR. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO CARRIES TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT SIGNED UP. 
          IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW I'LL TURN TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? MR. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          NOTHING THIS EVENING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          COUNTY 
          [COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ADMINISTRATOR. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I, I HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. 
          LAST MONTH, UH, MEGAN TIERNEY INVITED ME TO THE MASTER GARDENER'S GRADUATION, WHICH THEY HAD IN HAMPTON AT ONE OF THEIR COMMUNITY CENTERS. 
          IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT MASTER GARDENERS. 
          I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. 
          IT'S A GREAT COMMITMENT. 
          UH, BUT AS A GROUP, IT, IT IS AMAZING THE DIVERSITY, YOUNG CHILDREN, OLDER FOLKS. 
          IT, IT IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT AND I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT AFTER MY FIRST VISIT TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB THERE AT THE EXTENSION OFFICE HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          THEY REALLY ARE, UM, LITTLE COUNTY BUSINESS HERE NEXT FOR YOU. 
          TYPICALLY DURING THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, I PROVIDE THE BOARD A CARRYOVER MEMO. 
          THE MEMO HAS BEEN PREPARED. 
          IT WILL BE IN YOUR PACKAGE ON FRIDAY. 
          I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IT WILL BE COMING TO YOU. 
          UM, AND NUMBER THREE, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UH, STAFF AND I ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FEMA. 
          IT APPEARS THAT THEY WILL CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS, AND IT WILL TURN IN, IN TURN WILL AFFECT THE WAY WE MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES UNDER NATURAL DISASTERS, ET CETERA. 
          SO THE FIRE CHIEF, UH, AND I AND, UH, SOME OTHER STAFF TODAY MET TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          AND, UH, I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF IT IF YOU HAD NOT, UH, COME ACROSS IT. 
          IT, IT IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO, THAT WE WILL BE ON OUR OWN FOR A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE USUALLY ARE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WAYNE, 
          [MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD (Part 1 of 2)]
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, YEAH, SO A COUPLE REAL QUICK. 
          UM, I, UH, WASN'T ABLE TO GO LAST YEAR, BUT, UM, I WENT TO THE, UM, LIGHTED BOAT SHOW THIS YEAR AND I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THAT. 
          UH, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STRETCHED FROM, UH, ONE PIER TO THE NEXT AND EVEN FURTHER DOWN PAST, UH, TOWARDS THE BRIDGE. 
          AND PEOPLE WERE SITTING ON ROCKS AND WHERE I WAS AND, UM, SPREAD OUT ALONG THE BEACH. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 17 VOTES IN IT THIS YEAR. 
          AND, UM, I, I WAS, I WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT THE TURNOUT THIS YEAR. 
          AND, UH, WE WAS SORRY THAT WE COULDN'T LIGHT THE CHRISTMAS TREE, BUT, UH, BE ABLE TO DO THAT NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT I, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT FOR US. 
          IT WAS DEFINITELY A LITTLE COOL. 
          SO WE WRAPPED UP TO GET THERE, BUT, UM, GLAD TO SEE THAT BACK IN ACTION AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT. 
          UH, AND, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, MOST IS I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERY ONE OF YOU VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND, UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR UNTIL WE SEE YOU. 
          SOME OF YOU WILL SEE YOU BEFORE THEN, BUT IF WE DON'T AND TO THE, UH, TO ALL OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE WISH YOU A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          THANK YOU, WAYNE. 
          I'M GOING TO HALT THE COMMENTS BY THE BOARD BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME AND WE STILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A BREAK AND I'M SURE WE MIGHT LIKE A BREAK AT THIS POINT. 
          SO FIVE MINUTES, THEN WE'LL COME BACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. 
          UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS FIRST OF ALL DO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN I'M GONNA DO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND WE'LL FINISH WITH REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          SO, UH, UH, UH, 
          [6. Application No. UP-1060-25, Youth Challenge Hampton Roads (DBA Faith Recovery). Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R25-172 to establish an increase in the number of occupants in an existing group home from sixteen (16) to twenty-one (21) per Section 24.1-306 [Category 1, No. 7] of the York County Zoning Ordinance]
LET'S SEE THE APPLICATION 
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FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BY YOUTH CHALLENGE OF HAMPTON ROADS FAITH RECOVERY. 
          AND MADISON, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS. 
          YES, I'M THANK YOU CHAIR, MR. VICE CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MR. BELLAMY, MR. HILL. 
          I HOPE Y'ALL ARE HAVING A GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT AS FAST AS I CAN. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO THIS APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY YOUTH CHALLENGE CHALLENGE HAMPTON ROADS DOING BUSINESS AS FAITH RECOVERY IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IN AN EXISTING GROUP HOME FROM 16 TO 21 AT 3 25 YUEL ROAD. 
          THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF YU ROAD IN MOTOWN ROAD. 
          THERE ARE FOUR SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          TWO BUILDINGS ARE USED FOR HOUSING RESIDENTS. 
          THAT'S 3 25 DASH A YIELD ROAD AND 3 25 DASH B YIELD ROAD. 
          ONE BUILDING SERVES AS AN ADMINISTRATION AND COUNSELING OFFICE, AND THE LAST BUILDING SERVES AS THE CHAPEL AND FOR OTHER COMMUNAL PURPOSES. 
          THE SITE IS LOCATED ON ELL ROAD AND ALTHOUGH IT IS ZONED LIMITED INDUSTRIAL AND IS DESIGNATED IL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT IS IN AN AREA THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, USES. 
          NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY IS COLONIAL GARDENS LANDSCAPING COMPANY AND TWO PARCELS WITH RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. 
          ALL ZONED IL NORTH IS A PORTION OF LAND OWNED BY WILLIAMSBURG MERCHANTS IN A VACANT LOT, BOTH ZONED IL NORTHEAST IS COLLISION CORRECTION, A CAR COLLISION REPAIR FACILITY. 
          A ZONED IIL EAST IS AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, ZONED FOR RESOURCE CONSERVATION. 
          SOUTH IS COLONIAL CARTS, A GOLF CART, SALES AND REPAIR FACILITY ZONED IL. 
          AND OVER IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, WE HAVE WEST TO THE SITE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UH, ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND SOUTHWEST. 
          WE HAVE TWO BUSINESSES, ONE CALLED FIVE BROTHERS LANDSCAPES, AND THE OTHER ONE, UM, WILLIAMSBURG JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, KINGDOM HALL, BOTH ZONE LIMITED BUSINESS SLASH INDUSTRIAL. 
          SO AS FOR THE PROJECT PROPOSAL SINCE 2023, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN OPERATING TWO RECOVERY RESIDENCES ON THE PROPERTY, A BUILDING AT 3 25 DASH A U ROAD. 
          UM, AND THIS HAS SIX OCCUPANTS CURRENTLY, AND THE BUILDING AT 3 25 DASH B ULL ROAD HAS EIGHT OCCUPANTS. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT BOTH BUILDINGS, UM, ARE LICENSED WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ALSO KNOWN AS D-B-H-D-S, AND THEY'RE REGISTERED AS RECOVERY RESIDENCES THAT PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING TO THOSE THAT ARE LIVING IN THE HOMES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASING NEED FOR SAFE HOUSING AND ADDICTION RECOVERY SERVICES. 
          DUE TO THIS, THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THE BUILDING AT 3 25 DASH B FUEL ROAD HAVE AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY FROM EIGHT TO 13 OCCUPANTS. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THE RESIDENTS TO MEET THE D-B-H-D-S REQUIREMENT OF 50 SQUARE FEET, UH, OF BEDROOM SPACE PER RESIDENT. 
          UM, AND THIS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, IN THE CURRENT SPACE. 
          AND AN ANALYSIS OF THE SUBMITTED FLOOR PLAN CONFIRMS THAT THE 886 SQUARE FEET AVAILABLE FOR BRIDE ROOM SPACE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE 13 RESIDENTS. 
          AND NOW MOVING TO ANALYSIS SECTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE REQUEST FOR AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY WILL NOT CHANGE THE SURROUNDING CHARACTER OF THE AREA IN THEIR NARRATIVE. 
          THE APPLICANT STATED THAT DURING THE TWO YEARS OF THE RECOVERY PROGRAM BEING AN OPERATION, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INDICATED THAT THE BUILDING AT 3 25 DASH B YIELD ROAD HAS THE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL FIVE OCCUPANTS AND THEREFORE PROPOSES NO CHANGES TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, OR THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WILL NOT HAVE TO EXPERIENCE ANY IMPACT, UM, OR VERY MINIMAL IMPACT FROM THE INCREASE. 
          UH, THIS REQUEST FOR AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY FOR RECOVERY SERVICES WILL SUPPORT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE SERVICES FOR MORE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN NEED. 
          SO NOW I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO OVER WHAT RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE USE. 
          UH, SO IN THE VIRGINIA CODE GROUP HOMES OR A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, UM, DESIGNED FOR THOSE RECOVERING FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS ARE REGULATED AS RECOVERY RESIDENCES. 
          UM, AND IN YORK COUNTY RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE CONSIDERED GROUP HOMES IN OUR CODE. 
          SO AS DEFINED, UH, IN VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 37.2 DASH FOUR A RECOVERY RESIDENCE IS A HOUSING FACILITY THAT PROVIDES ALCOHOL FREE AND ILLICIT DRUG, DRUG FREE HOUSING TO INDIVIDUALS WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH CO-OCCURRING MENTAL ILLNESSES AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS. 
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THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE CLINICAL TREATMENT SERVICES. 
          NOW TO CLARIFY HERE, CLINICAL TREATMENT IN THE, IN THIS CONTEXT, UM, DOES NOT INCLUDE CLINICAL COUNSELING, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN CERTAIN QUALIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCES. 
          SO KEY FEATURES HERE, UM, RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE ALSO KNOWN AS SOBER LIVING HOMES AND THEY HAVE RESIDENTS THAT MUST REMAIN ALCOHOL FREE, UM, AND ILLICIT DRUG FREE. 
          THE RESIDENTS ARE MENTORED THROUGH PEER LED SUPPORT WITH STRUCTURAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND NO CLINICAL TREATMENT SERVICES PROVIDED ON SITE EXCEPT FOR THAT CLINICAL COUNSELING. 
          SO FOR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE SUBJECT TO SECTION 24.1 DASH 4 0 8 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH ESTABLISHES PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR GROUP HOMES AND TRANSITIONAL HOMES. 
          THIS SECTION STATES THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PERSONS ACCOMMODATED IN ANY GROUP OR TRANSITIONAL HOMES SHALL NOT EXCEED 12 EXCLUSIVE OF RESIDENT STAFF. 
          HOWEVER, THE BOARD, UH, MAY SPECIFY A GREATER OR LESSER NUMBER IN CONSIDERATION OF THE DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          UM, AND ALSO THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE ITSELF. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, UH, TO EXCEED THIS LIMIT AND PROPOSES A TOTAL OF 21 RESIDENCES. 
          AS STATED EARLIER, AFTER REVIEWING THE DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AS WELL AS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE ITSELF, THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPOSED INCREASE. 
          THE EXTERNAL APPEARANCE AND ARRANGEMENT OF SUCH FACILITY SHALL BE OF A FORM AND A CHARACTER, UM, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE APPEARANCE AND ARRANGEMENT OF OTHER, OTHER RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. 
          UM, GIVEN THE VARIETY OF USES IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THAT RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING ON SITE, UH, IS COMPATIBLE AND FAITH RECOVERY IS TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPROPRIATE STATE AGENCY, UM, OR STATE REGULATORY AGENCIES. 
          SO FAITH RECOVERY IS CERTIFIED, UH, RECOVERY RESIDENCE BY ACCREDITATION THROUGH THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF RECOVERY RESIDENCES, ALSO KNOWN AS VAR, UM, AND WITH VIRGINIA OXFORD HOUSE, THEREFORE THE FACILITY IS A CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCE BY D-B-H-D-S. 
          MM-HMM  AND LASTLY HERE, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR SUCH FACILITIES SHALL BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS EXCLUSIVE OF STAFF, UM, PROPOSED TO BE HOUSED IN THE FACILITY AND BASED OFF OF STAFF STAFF'S CALCULATIONS THAT ARE IN DETAIL IN THE MEMO, THE LOT SIZE MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO AS FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN SECTION 24.1 DASH 6 0 6 FOR GROUP HOMES, UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THREE SPACES, UH, PLUS ONE SPACE FOR EVERY TWO BEDS FOR GROUP HOMES. 
          UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIX BEDS AVAILABLE IN THE 3 25 DASH A U ROAD BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH TWO MORE BEDS COULD BE ADDED. 
          ONCE SUFFICIENT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS AVAILABLE AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY EIGHT BEDS IN THE 3 25 DASH BU ROAD BUILDING, UM, THERE WILL BE THE ADDITION OF FIVE MORE BEDS IN THE 3 25 DASH B BUILDING, THUS MAKING A TOTAL OF 21 BEDS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A TOTAL OF 14 PARKING SPACES ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S UH, SUBMITTED SKETCH PLAN. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, CURRENTLY HAS 16 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE, THEREFORE MEETING THIS REQUIREMENT. 
          AND AS FOR TRAFFIC, UM, BASED OFF OF ANALYSIS OF THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL, UM, AND VDOT TRAFFIC VOLUMES, UM, THE INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO IMPACT EVERYDAY TRAFFIC PATTERNS. 
          UM, SO THEREFORE LITTLE IMPACT ON EXISTING TRAFFIC, UH, IN THE VICINITY OF FACI FACILITY IS, UH, UM, EXPECTED. 
          SO LAST BUT NOT LEAST, AN ANALYSIS UM, STAFF LOOKED AT STATE SAFETY, UM, AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DIVISION OF BUILDING SAFETY STAFF HAS PROPOSED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT REQUIRED THE APPLICANT TO OBTAIN A NEW CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE CHANGE OF BUILDING USE AND TO ALSO PUT IN AN AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEM INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2021 VIRGINIA CONSTRUCTION CODE. 
          AND ALSO AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY STAFF HAS INCLUDED A PROPOSED CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE BUSINESS TO BE INSPECTED BY FLS AND SUBMIT AN EMERGENCY PLAN TO BE APPROVED BY FLS PRIOR TO THIS CHANGE OF USE. 
          MM-HMM  . 
          SO IN CONCLUSION, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IN AN EXISTING RECOVERY FACILITY FROM 16 TO 21 TO SATISFY AND EXPRESS NEED FOR SAFE HOUSING AND ADDICTION RECOVERY SERVICES. 
          DUE TO THIS, THEY'RE REQUESTING THE BUILDING AT 3 25 DASH B ROAD TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY FROM EIGHT TO 13 RESIDENTS. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT FAITH RECOVERY HAS MAINTAINED COMPLIANCE WITH D-B-H-D-S AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE PROPOSED THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE FACILITY TO 
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MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND COUNTY CODE. 
          THIS REQUEST FOR AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY WILL NOT CHANGE THE SURROUNDING AREA, UH, AND WILL PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO DUE TO THESE CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS, AS NOTED, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 25 1 72. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THE APPLICANT'S ALSO HERE, UM, AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION TO SHOW YOU AS WELL AND IS HAPPY TO HELP WITH ANSWERING QUESTIONS TOO. 
          THANK YOU, MADISON, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO YOU CONFIRM THAT THERE IS ENOUGH, UM, SPACE AVAILABLE FOR THE ADDITIONAL OCCUPANTS BY US UTILIZING EXISTING ROOMS. OKAY. 
          DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE ROOMS ARE USED FOR NOW? AND THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION, IF, IF THAT'S GONNA BE DISPLACED BY NEW OCCUPANTS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUNCTIONS HAPPENING IN THOSE ROOMS NOW? YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          I KNOW THE APPLICANT WILL COVER THIS IN HIS PRESENTATION, BUT TO GIVE A QUICK EXPLANATION, UM, SOME OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY BEDROOMS, UM, AND THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL BED AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN EMPTY ROOM THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T BEING UTILIZED, UM, THAT WILL NOW BE UTILIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK? OH YEAH. 
          WHEN, WHEN IS, WHEN HE IS READY, WILL THE APPLICANT CARES? I, NO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MADISON AS WELL. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS 3 25 A UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S, UM, ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO EIGHT OCCUPANTS, THE BEDROOMS ARE NOT SIZED SUFFICIENTLY LARGE ENOUGH TO, UH, MEET THE DHP CODE. 
          AM I CORRECT ON THAT? CORRECT. 
          UM, AS OF NOW, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN 3 25 DASH A, UH, ISN'T UP TO D-B-H-D-S STANDARDS. 
          UM, SO IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND THE BUILDING TO ADD MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED, UM, THEN THEY COULD REACH THAT NUMBER. 
          BUT CURRENTLY AS THE BUILDING STANDS, AS OF NOW, UM, THEY CAN ONLY HOLD SIX SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. 
          NO. 
          DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT OR ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER YOU HAVE? YEAH, I, I'M, I'M, SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTION THERE, SO. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'LL OPEN THE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD CARE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEE IF YOU'D LIKE, PLEASE SPEAK. 
          WELL, I, I'M THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO READY FOR ME? SURE. 
          NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, IS TRAVIS HALL. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT, CEO OF FAITH RECOVERY AND MY PERSONAL RESIDENCE IS IN, UH, 180 9 SEL STREET, NEWPORT NEWS, VIRGINIA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OUR LOCATION IS OBVIOUSLY AT THREE 25-YEAR-OLD ROAD, BUT THANK YOU, UH, FOR HEARING US. 
          I'LL MAKE IT SHORT. 
          MADISON DID A GREAT JOB OF COVERING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. 
          UM, WE ARE A, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT WORK THAT PROVIDES A CLINICALLY MANAGED CHRISTIAN DICTION RECOVERY PROGRAM. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE OUR CERTIFICATIONS LICENSING THROUGH D-B-H-C-S. 
          YOU SPOKE TO THE ACCREDITATION WITH BARR. 
          WE ARE ALSO CARF ACCREDITED, WHICH IS A NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, KIND OF CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD AMONGST RECOVERY PROGRAMS. AND ALSO WE HAVE MEMBERSHIPS WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TREATMENT PROVIDERS AND THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF ADDICTION PROFESSIONALS, WHICH KIND OF PROVIDES A LOT OF TRAINING AND JUST KIND OF KEEPS MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          BUT IT'S KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS NICE TO SEE JUDGE RIZZI EARLIER. 
          HE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROGRAM, HAS ACTUALLY UTILIZED OUR PROGRAM AND I, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SPEAK TO THE NEED 'CAUSE HE SAID HE SEES CASES EVERY DAY. 
          SO I THINK THE BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEED, UH, IN THE COUNTY AND JUST ABROAD. 
          BUT, UM, WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE IS OUR WHOLE PERSON APPROACH. 
          WE PROVIDE THE HOUSING, WE HAVE THE LICENSE COUNSELING. 
          THERE IS A FAITH-BASED BIBLICAL APPROACH IN SOME OF OUR CLASSES, BUT WE ALSO DO SOME JOB SKILL TRAINING. 
          WE HAVE A, UH, A FURNITURE STORE THAT'S IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, THAT ALSO PROVIDES SOME MOVEMENT SERVICES WHERE GENTLEMEN IN OUR PROGRAM CAN BE EMPLOYED, LEARN HOW TO, YOU KNOW, OPERATE IN A, IN A, IN A SOBER MINDSET WORK, HAVE A BAD DAY AT WORK, NOT HAVE TO COME HOME. 
          JUST A LOT OF PRACTICAL THINGS THAT WE DO OVER THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS IN OUR PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND I'M GONNA BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? SPEAK. 
          HE WANTS TO SPEAK. 
          I SEE IT. 
          , IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK, COME FORWARD. 
          NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, ONCE AGAIN, MARK WILLIAMS FIVE 13 CHARLES ROAD. 
          I'M GONNA WATCH THE CLOCK THIS TIME. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS SPED IT UP LAST TIME. 
          WHO'S GOT A BUTTON BACK THERE? UM, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO JUST SPOKE SEEMED LIKE A GOOD MAN TO ME. 
          AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH THAT POUND OF CURE. 
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AND BETWEEN WHAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH, WITH THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH IS GOING ON AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IT'S GOING ON OUR SOCIAL SERVICES OFFICES. 
          IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, UH, SHERIFF OFFICE PUT OUT A MEMORANDUM YESTERDAY TO GET CITIZEN FEEDBACK AS TO HOW THEY COULD BE A BETTER DEPARTMENT. 
          WHAT I'M SEEING WITH THE COUNTY IS COMMUNICATION HAPPENING BETWEEN THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND PLAYERS AND THE AUTHORITIES OF IT ALL. 
          AN ANNOUNCEMENT PREVENTION IS, IS WORTH THAT POUND OF CURE THAT EVERY EFFORT WE CAN MAKE TO REBUILD SOMEBODY'S LIFE. 
          EVERYBODY HAS HARD TIMES IN LIFE, SOMETIMES WORSE THAN OTHERS. 
          WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING AND WHATEVER THEY CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY WITH THAT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO STRONGLY PONDER. 
          AND THAT LEAVES ME A MINUTE. 
          55. 
          I DON'T RESERVE MY TIME. 
          ANYBODY ELSE COME AND USE IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR, WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES, RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY BOARD DISCUSSION. 
          MR. HALL, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. 
          I, I DO. 
          PLEASE. 
          UM, SO WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS ON 3 25 BI DON'T TAKE ANY EXCEPTION TO THIS, GOING FROM EIGHT RESIDENTS TO 13. 
          I THINK THE PLAN IS THERE, I THINK IT'S SOLID, BUT 3 25 A DOESN'T CURRENTLY MEET THE DHB STANDARD AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ENDORSING THE EXPANSION FROM SIX TO EIGHT IN A BUILDING THAT DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS. 
          SO MY PROPOSAL IS THAT I WOULD ONLY RESOLVE TO, UM, PERMIT 3 25 B IN OTHER WORDS. 
          AND IN LINE ITEM FOUR, NO MORE THAN 13 RESIDENTS MAY RESIDE IN BUILDING LOCATED AT 3 25 B. 
          YOU WILL AND STRIKE OUT THE PORTION THAT SAYS, AND NO MORE THAN EIGHT RESIDENTS RESIDE IN THE BUILDING AT 3 25 A I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE AUTHORIZING EIGHT IF THE CODE, IF THE, IF THE BUILDING DOESN'T MEET CURRENT CODE QUESTION. 
          SO THE STANDARDS YOU REFER TO IS THAT OUR STANDARDS OR THE STATE STANDARDS? STATE STANDARDS. 
          WELL THEN WHY ARE THEY, WHY ARE THEY, WHY ARE THE COUNTY STAFF SUBMITTING THIS FOR APPROVAL IF IT'S, UH, IF IT DOESN'T MEET STATE STANDARDS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHY I AM RAISING, UH, DO WE HAVE THE STAFF COME BACK UP AND OKAY. 
          POINT THIS OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, SO THE BUILDING, THE OCCUPANCY FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE, UM, MEETS THE GROUP HOME STANDARDS. 
          SO THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR EIGHT. 
          NOW, D-B-H-D-S WHEN IT COMES TO ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO LIVE IN THE BEDROOMS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS BASED OFF OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO EVEN, UM, EVEN IF MR. HALL WANTED TO FIT EIGHT FOLKS IN THERE RIGHT NOW, HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THE STATE STANDARD. 
          UM, BUT IF HE WERE TO BUILD OUT THE BUILDING, WHICH, UM, HE HAS A RIGHT TO, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS TO, UM, TO ALLOW FOR TWO MORE RESIDENTS ONCE HE MEETS THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          I, I DON'T SEE IT BEING RELATED. 
          HE, HE'S ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY FROM EIGHT TO 13. 
          WE'RE WE'RE PREPARED TO GRANT THAT HE'S ALREADY ENTITLED TO EIGHT. 
          HE CAN'T, IN THE OTHER BUILDING, HE CAN'T DO EIGHT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T MEET STATE STANDARDS. 
          IF HE IMPROVES THE BUILDING TO THE POINT WHERE HE MEETS THE EIGHT, HE'S ALREADY ENTITLED. 
          SO I, I THINK THE RESOLUTION JUST NEEDS TO STRICTLY LOOK AT 3 25 B AND APPROVE THE INCREASE FROM EIGHT TO 13. 
          I THINK SOME WITH THE A THINK'S BEING MISSED HERE, I THINK SOMETHING'S BEING MISSED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE STATE STANDARDS ARE BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT WE, IF WE APPROVED IT, HE STILL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXCEED THE STANDARDS UNTIL HE GETS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S, SO WE'RE JUST KEEPING HIM FROM HAVING TO COME BACK UP HERE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO, SO IS OUR APPROVAL FOR THE SITE YES. 
          FOR THE WHOLE PARCEL AND THE STATE STANDARDS IS FOR THE ROOMS? CORRECT. 
          SO WE'RE SAYING, SO OUR PROPOSAL SAYING FOR YOUR SITE YOU CAN GROW THIS BIG MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          BUT HE STILL NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          STATE STANDARDS, WHICH IS GONNA LIMIT HIM TO EXPAND UNTIL HE EXPANDS THE SITE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DOUG, WHY WOULD I WANNA DRAG HIM BACK UP HERE FOR THAT? I WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO. 
          WELL, NO, BUT HE'S TRYING TO EXPAND IT. 
          HE, HE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND HIS SITE WITHOUT COMING BACK UP HERE. 
          HE'S SAYING HE WOULD AND I'M SAYING IF HE FALL UNDER CODE SOLUTION, IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE CODE THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. 
          HE'S ALREADY ENTITLED TO EIGHT IN THE FIRST BUILDING. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          BUT HE CAN'T FIT EIGHT BECAUSE THE BUILDING, THE ROOMS ARE TOO SMALL. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE ANYTHING ON 3 25 EIGHT'S CODE CODE. 
          THE ONLY THING WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IS THE FIVE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS IN 3 25 B. 
          SO I WOULD RESTRICT THE RESOLUTION TO JUST 3 25 B 
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OH, YOU TAKE, YOU JUST TAKING THE A OUT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN IF HE DECIDES TO EXPAND IT, HE'S GOTTA DO IT TO THE STATE CODE. 
          AND IF HE DOES TO THE STATE CODE, IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO THE BOARD BACK UP HERE. 
          WELL, DO YOU WANT TO EARL OR ARE WE EARL PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT APPROACH, I DIDN'T NEED, I MEAN, I THINK IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR HIM. 
          SO YES. 
          , GUESS WHAT? GUESS WHAT? YES, WE'RE, UH, STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT APPROACH. 
          IF YOU WANTED TO REMOVE THAT ONE PIECE FROM THE CONDITION, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD HARM HIS SITE. 
          NOT HARM. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY, SO I WOULD MOVE. 
          GOOD. 
          CALL R 25 DASH ONE SEVENTY TWO RR, UH, FOR APPROVAL WILL CALL PLEASE. 
          THEY KNOW WHAT R AT 1 25 R IS. 
          THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROY IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 25 DASH 1 72 R TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED. 
          MR. ROY? YES. 
          MR. DRURY? YES. 
          MR. ROHN? YES. 
          MR. SHEPHERD? YES. 
          MRS. NOLL? YES. 
          MOTION CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [CONSENT CALENDAR]
I'M GONNA QUICKLY MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          NUMBER SEVEN IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 18TH. 
          NUMBER EIGHT IS ROUTE 17 IN SIEGE LANE SIDEWALK PROJECTS. 
          NUMBER NINE IS REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND TRANSFER. 
          AND IS THERE ANY ISSUE THAT ANYONE WOULD CARE TO PULL? I MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE HAVE THE MOTION, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED. 
          MR. DREWRY? YES. 
          MR. ROHN? YES. 
          MR. SHEPHERD? YES. 
          MR. ROY? YES. 
          MRS. NOLL? YES. 
          MOTION CARRIED. 
          [MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD (Part 2 of 2)]
SO LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I'M GONNA OPEN THE COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD. 
          WHO WOULD CARE TO GO FIRST? UH, WAYNE, YOU'VE ALREADY GONE. 
          I'M GOING YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHO WOULD LIKE BE THE NEXT ONE? ADAM, CHAIR. 
          I'LL GO NEXT. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M QUICK, YOU'RE QUICK. 
          I WANT TO START BY THANKING STAFF AND ALL THE VARIOUS VOLUNTEERS IN THIS COUNTY FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE THIS YEAR. 
          I THINK IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC YEAR, BOTH FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE, THE NUMBER OF EVENTS PLANNED, EVERYTHING THAT WAS CARRIED OUT, AND JUST THE OVERALL BEAUTY OF THE COUNTY. 
          I THINK YOU DESERVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THAT. 
          I'D LIKE TO THANK MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY. 
          WISH, UH, EACH OF THEM A HAPPY HOLIDAY FOR THOSE OF CHRISTIAN FAITH. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS AND SAFE TRAVELS. 
          GOD BLESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD. 
          UH, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO TONIGHT I WAS GONNA, UM, WELL LET ME EXPLAIN IT THIS WAY. 
          I DID SOME RESEARCH, UH, BASED ON A REQUEST FROM A, A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION ON, ON, UM, SCAMS. AND, UH, THEY, THE, I I'M GONNA GO DOWN AND BRIEF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LATER, BUT, UH, SO IN, IN TALKING TO THE SHERIFF AND THE SHERIFF STAFF, THEY PUT TOGETHER THIS WHOLE LIST OF SCAMS. AND WHEN I GOT IT, I WAS SO BLOWN AWAY BY IT. 
          I HAD TO PUT IT IN MY DISTRO FILE REPORT. 
          AND, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IT BRIEFLY HERE. 
          ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING. 
          ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING. 
          I HAD A LIST OVER THIS YEAR, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WELL, NINE 11 MONTHS, UM, ABOUT 57 SCAMS OF NOTE. 
          AND, UM, THEY COME UP TO SOMEWHAT OVER $2 MILLION HAVE BEEN LOST BA BASED ON THESE 57 SCAMS. NOW, ONE OF THE SCAMS, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THE SCAMS, UH, I WENT THROUGH THE, THE, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RANGE, AND YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU LOSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU CAN AFFORD TO JUST HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU, BUT THAT'S A HUNK OF CHANGE. 
          BUT THERE WAS A BUNCH AT 50,000 AND THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH AT THAT, UH, 20,000, THE ONE THAT GOT ME WAS THE ONE FOR $1 MILLION. 
          AND, UH, AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THE INDIVIDUAL DID HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND, UM, WAS THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING INTO A, A, A, UH, A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS VENTURE. 
          AND SURE ENOUGH, HE GOT SCAMMED OUT OF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS, UH, PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS UNTIL I FOUND OUT THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS A SCAM FOR A MILLION AND A HALF IN NEW YORK COUNTY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LIST OF SCAMS, IT WAS, UH, JUST, IT WAS ASTOUNDING TO LOOK AT THE LIST, THE CA THE, UH, CATEGORIZATION OF IT WHERE YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT THEY CALL THE GRANDMA GRANDPA SCAM, OKAY? WHERE A CHILD CALLS UP AND, AND IN A PANIC AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GIVE MONEY, YOU GIVE MONEY TO SOMEBODY. 
          UH, THERE WAS, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT WERE, THEY WOULD CALL AND, AND, UM, THEY WERE ACTING AS IF THEY WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          UH, THE THING 
          [02:35:01]
WITH COURT APPEARANCES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINE, AND IT JUST, AND IT WAS A BANK SCAM. 
          THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM. 
          UM, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE I, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET, OKAY? THE MEANING YOU OWN, YOU'VE GOT YOUR MONEY IS WHEN YOU START GIVING AWAY THE HANDED OUT AND YOU HAND IT OFF TO SOMEONE, THAT'S WHERE THE SCAMS OCCURS, OKAY? THAT'S WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR MONEY. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO. 
          AND, AND IN INVESTMENTS, THE OLD THING, IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS OKAY? UM, I MEAN, TO LOSE A MILLION DOLLARS, LOSE A MILLION AND A HALF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY SAD THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DO THAT. 
          AND, UM, I WAS WATCHING A 60 MINUTE SHOW WHERE THERE IS ACTUALLY A WHOLE, UH, ORGANIZATION, UH, THROUGH INDIA. 
          AND THERE'S NOT JUST INDIA, BUT PARTS OF AFRICA THAT THEY, THEY GO THROUGH THIS AND THEY CALL, IF THEY CAN CALL A THOUSAND PEOPLE, ALRIGHT? THINK OF A THOUSAND PEOPLE AND THEY GET, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT COSTS UP 40, $50,000. 
          IT WAS WORTH THE EFFORT, ALRIGHT? SO DON'T BE A VICTIM OF THE SCAMS. THE BIG THING IS, YOU KNOW, IF A SCAM, UH, THEY'LL COME IN ON THE EMAIL, THEY'LL COME IN PHONE CALLS, PROBABLY IN OTHER THINGS, BUT THEY'LL ASK YOU TO DO THINGS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY STUPID. 
          LIKE, PUT YOUR MONEY IN A PAPER BAG AND SOMEBODY WILL COME BY YOUR HOUSE AND COLLECT IT. 
          AND THAT PERSON SHOWS UP ON A MOTORCYCLE AND YOU GIVE THEM 40, $50,000 IN A BAG AND YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOMETHING. 
          AND, AND, UH, I, I TALKED TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT THE ONE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE CASE. 
          AND THEY TRACKED THE, UH, THE SCAM ARTIST, THE GUY THAT WAS ON THE MOTORCYCLE TRACKED HIM ALL THE WAY UP TO MAINE, OKAY? THE THING IS, THE, THE POLICE IN MAINE WILL NOT ARREST THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO THERE WAS NO FURTHER JUDICIAL ACTION TAKEN ON IT. 
          AND IT JUST REMAINS AN OPEN CASE. 
          A LOT OF THE SCAMS, THEY PUT YOU IN A PANIC MODE, OKAY? THEY, THEY PUT YOU IN NOT ONLY IN A PANIC MODE, THEY PUT YOU, YOU, YOU GOTTA HURRY UP MODE, YOU GOTTA HURRY UP, HURRY, DO STUFF. 
          SO THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS IS YOU START HEARING THIS, JUST STEP BACK, TAKE A TAKE A MOMENT. 
          THINK ABOUT IT. 
          IS IT REASONABLE? IT'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING ME TO DO? HOW THEY WERE ASKING ME TO GO AROUND TO ALL THE BANKS AND GET BITCOINS OR BUY A BUNCH OF, UH, GIFT CARDS AND PAY, PAY THINGS WITH GIFT CARDS. 
          THIS, SOME OF THIS SOUNDS REALLY RIDICULOUS IF YOU'RE NOT IN, NOT IN THE STRESSFUL SITUATION. 
          SO JUST, UH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON, IT JUST SEEMS, UH, IT IS NOT JUST CHRISTMAS, BUT THE WHOLE YEAR IS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THE SCAM, THE SCAMS ARE, ARE, ARE GETTING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING MORE SOPHISTICATED, GETTING REALLY SOPHISTICATED. 
          AND THE ONE THAT REALLY GOT ME WAS THE USE OF AI WHERE THEY GO ON A WEBPAGE AND THEY GET THE PERSON, THEY HEAR THE PERSON SPEAKING, OR A CHILD SPEAKING, AND THEY USE THE AI TO COPY THE VOICE OF THE CHILD AND DEVELOP A ROUTINE OR A CALL BASED ON THAT CHILD'S VOICE SO THAT WHEN THEY CALL THE PARENT OR CALL THE GRANDPARENT, GUESS WHAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE THE REAL CHILD. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS YOU CAN DO TO OVERCOME THAT, SUCH AS HAVE CERTAIN QUESTIONS OR, OR HAVE A CERTAIN, UH, UH, IN THE FAMILY. 
          YOU BUILD UP A SECURITY OVER, IF I SAY THIS CAN, IF I SAY, WHAT'S THE MAGIC WORD? WELL, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          WELL, GUESS WHAT? OKAY, THERE YOU GOTTA, YOU GOT A WAY TO PROTECT YOURSELF. 
          SO I, I WAS PRETTY, I WAS PRETTY SADDENED TO SEE THIS, UH, UH, THE SCAM PROCESS AND SEE THE, UH, THE, THE NUMBER OF SCAMS AND THE REALLY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING LOST BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HARD. 
          UM, DON'T LET THE GREED GET IN THE WAY, OKAY? JUST AGAIN, STEP BACK, THINK ABOUT IT. 
          AND, UH, BEFORE YOU, YOU DO ANYTHING, GET THAT, THAT'S DONE. 
          I'LL BE TALKING TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, UH, ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF IN MORE DETAIL. 
          NOW, UH, FOR THE REST OF YOU AND FOR MY, FOR MY FAMILY AND FOR ME PERSONALLY TO YOU, I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SEE EVERYBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE, OKAY? SO LET'S COME OUT SAFE FOR THIS NEW YEAR'S AND ENJOY YOURSELF. 
          HAVE A GOOD TIME, RELAX, YOU KNOW, ENJOY YOUR FAMILY, ENJOY YOUR FRIENDS. 
          THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ONE LIFE, SO LIVE IT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE EVENING, LATE IN THE YEAR. 
          SO, VERY QUICKLY, I'LL, I WANT TO TACK ON REAL QUICK TO WHAT MR. SHEPHERD WAS TALKING ABOUT, PROTECTING YOURSELF ONLINE. 
          AND JUST ONE QUICK TIP, IF YOU HAVE ANY, FOR ANY OF YOUR IMPORTANT ONLINE ACCOUNTS, IF THAT ACCOUNT OFFERS TWO FACTOR OR MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION, SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          IT'S AN EXTRA STEP, LITTLE BIT OF A PAIN, BUT FAR LESS PAINFUL THAN LOSING ACCESS TO YOUR ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T 
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DO IT. 
          IT'S NOT FOOLPROOF, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A BIG STEP FORWARD IN YOUR ONLINE SECURITY. 
          SO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT SIGN UP FOR TWO FACTOR OR MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION. 
          AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR'S, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. 
          A LOT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST YEAR FROM STAFF TO FIRE LIFE SAFETY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, OUR TEACHERS, ALL THE FAMILIES ACROSS YORK COUNTY, IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, TAKE A MOMENT, PAUSE, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, ENJOY THE SEASON, ENJOY YOUR TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY, BECAUSE ONCE WE BLINK, WE'LL BE RIGHT IN THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND RIGHT BACK IN THE GRIND OF THINGS. 
          SO TRY TO ENJOY IT NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THIS IS, I SAID BEFORE THE, THE LAST MEETING WE HAVE IN THE YEAR 2025. 
          IT'S BEEN A VERY BUSY YEAR AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL NEW BUSINESSES OPEN BOTH IN THE UPPER AND LOWER PART OF THE COUNTY, AND THERE'S MORE TO COME IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. 
          FINGERS CROSSED, WE, WE ARE DEALING WITH V ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, SO THAT DOES REQUIRE YOUR PATIENTS AND YOUR FORTITUDE. 
          BUT THINK OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR US ULTIMATELY WHEN THE ROADS ARE FINALLY FINISHED. 
          UH, THE INAUGURAL YORK COUNTY GOVERNMENT SERIES SHOWED US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR OUR CITIZENS. 
          SO THERE'LL BE MORE CLASSES COMING IN THE COMING YEAR, AND PLEASE SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          UM, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO BE, BE INVOLVED. 
          OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION, BUT MOSTLY IN THE LOWER PART OF THE COUNTY. 
          AND AS I'VE STARTED TO SAY, CIVIC, CIVIC INVOLVEMENT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND WE CAN ALWAYS USE VOLUNTEERS ON OUR COMMITTEES, SO PLEASE GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. 
          AND I HAVE TO COMMEND OUR STAFF. 
          WE HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL STAFF AND THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY READING AWARDS, BUT THEY ALSO GO OUT TO FIND GRANTS SO THAT WE ARE CAREFUL WITH OUR MONEY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPECIAL PEOPLE, AS YOU HEARD THE JUDGE SAY ABOUT HIS PEOPLE. 
          I SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT OURS. 
          THE BOARD HAD TWO RETREATS THIS YEAR TO HELP US RECOGNIZE OUR FUTURE NEEDS. 
          AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE SAW TONIGHT THE CIP WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT PART IN THAT FUTURE. 
          THE COURTHOUSE EXPANSION IS NECESSARY, AND NOW THERE'S MORE TO COME IF WE WANT YOUR COUNTY TO PREPARE FOR OTHER NEEDS AS THOSE WHO CAME BE, YOU KNOW, WE FORGET ABOUT THIS, BUT PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE US DID WHAT WE, WE NOW ENJOY THE ALL OUR EXPANSIONS, THE, THE CIPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IT'S NOW OUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW AFTER US WILL HAVE THE SAME ENJOYMENT FOR YOUR COUNTY. 
          THE CITIZENS SURVEY EXCEEDS OUR EXPECTATION OR EXCEEDED OUR EXPECTATIONS, AND ALSO PROVIDED THE ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE, AS DID ALL THE STUDIES THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZED. 
          SO WE MIGHT BE BETTER EDUCATED TO THE NEEDS WHEN MAKING FINANCIAL DECISIONS. 
          YES, IT'S BEEN A BUSY YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN REALLY A FRUITFUL YEAR AND I WANNA THANK MY FELLOW SUPERVISORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ONCE AGAIN SERVE AS A CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          I WISH YOU ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THE SEASONS AND A HAPPY, HEALTHY NEW YEAR. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THIS YEAR, I CAN'T SAY HAPPY HANUKKAH ANTISEMITISM IS UGLY AND MANY THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE SUFFERED BECAUSE OF IT. 
          THE SHOOTING AUSTRALIA WAS AN ABOMINATION. 
          SO PLEASE, AS YOU ARE ENJOYING THE HOLIDAYS, KEEP OUR JEWISH FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN YOUR PRAYERS. 
          MERRY CHRISTMAS. 
          SEE YOU NEXT YEAR. 
          BYE BYE.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.