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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THE NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A CORPSMAN QUORUM.
UH, TONIGHT, UH, FOR THE INVOCATION, WE HAVE PASTOR DAVID MCGREER FROM ZION UNITED BESS CHURCH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE BEFORE THIS DISTINGUISHED BOARD AND ALSO TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S ALWAYS A PRIVILEGE AND, AND A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.
UH, BUT AT THIS TIME, I INVITE US ALL TO PAUSE AND, AND BOWER HEADS AND PRAYER, LET US PRAY.
DEAR ALMIGHTY AND MERCIFUL, GOD, AS WE ENTER INTO THIS NEW FALL SEASON, WE PREPARE OUR HEARTS TO CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING, REMINDING US OF THE MANY REASONS WE HAVE TO BE GRATEFUL.
AND LORD, IN THIS HOUR, WE'RE ESPECIALLY THANKFUL TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER IN THIS CHAMBER FOR THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ADDRESS THE MATTERS BEFORE OUR COMMUNITY.
WE PRAY YOUR MERCY TO CONTINUE TO BE WITH EACH OF OUR ELECTED SUPERVISORS, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS COUNTY, AND THOSE WHO FAITHFULLY AND DILIGENTLY WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF YOUR COUNTY.
AND AS WE COME BEFORE YOU, AS ONE PEOPLE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE A VERY DIVERSE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS, DIFFERING IDEAS, DIFFERING OPINIONS ON ALL MATTERS.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THE MIDST OF OUR DIVERSITY, IN THE MIDST OF THE DIFFERENCES WE HAVE, WE CAN FIND A CALMNESS AND A RESOLUTION THAT IS TRULY DIVINE.
THIS DEMONSTRATES YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR WORK IN OUR LIVES, AND WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THAT.
GRANT US SINCERITY THAT AMID THINGS VANISHING AND DECEPTIVE, WE MAY SEE THE TRUTH STEADILY FOLLOW THE LIGHT FAITHFULLY, AND GROW EVER RICHER IN THE LOVE WHICH IS FOUND IN THE HEARTS OF ALL PEOPLE.
AND LORD, GRANT, OUR SUPERVISORS THE WISDOM NEEDED SO AS TO SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY, YET WITH RESPECT TO SHARE IN JUDGEMENTS WITHOUT PRIDE OR PREJUDICE, AND TO BE OPEN TO NEW THOUGHTS, NEW IDEAS, AND NEW PEOPLE IN A KIND AND LOVING MANNER.
CONTINUE TO GUIDE US IN ALL OF OUR PLANNING AND THIS MEETING, AND OUR CELEBRATION OF THIS FALL AND THIS THANKSGIVING.
THIS WE PRAY IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
WOULD YOU DO THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, FAITH, MS. P, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLICAN, WHICH SLAVE ONE NATION UNDER GOD, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[2. Visit Williamsburg Presentation by Edward Harris, President & Chief Executive Officer.]
THIS THE EVENING.SO THE FIRST ONE I'M GONNA CALL ON KRISTY OLSON, UH, TO INTRODUCE EDWARD HARRIS, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, UM, BUT MR. ED HARRIS, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VISIT WILLIAMSBURG, UM, HERE THIS EVENING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON TOURISM AND ALL THINGS, UH, GOING ON IN THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE AND, UM, WHAT WE HAVE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
SO MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE ED.
TRYING TO GET, IT'S GONNA POP UP.
I THINK I CAN SEE IT UP THERE, BUT TRYING TO MAKE IT FULL SCREEN DE THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.
THANK YOU, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
I WANNA START OFF BY JUST, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING CHRISTIE.
UM, SHE'S BEEN SUCH A WONDERFUL PARTNER, UH, WITH OUR ORGANIZATION, COLLABORATING WITH US, SHARING INFORMATION, UH, AND JUST BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH SOMEONE LIKE CHRISTIE WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT ON PROMOTING TOURISM FOR THIS REGION HAS JUST BEEN, UM, JUST AWESOME.
UM, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I MENTION
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THAT, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT QUICK TONIGHT.I DO HAVE, UM, QUITE A FEW UPDATES, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UM, START OUT TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS OUR ROLE AT VISIT WILLIAMSBURG, AND WE DO PROMOTE THE ENTIRE HISTORIC TRIANGLE, UH, WILLIAMSBURG YORKTOWN, OF COURSE, AND JAMESTOWN.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TOURISM PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN LATELY.
UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MARKETING AND PR, SALES AND EVENTS, AND TRY TO GET THAT IN WITHIN 15 MINUTES.
UH, AND I LIKE TO START BY REMINDING PEOPLE WHAT THE WORK IS, UM, OF A DESTINATION ORGANIZATION.
AND, UM, IN SUMMARY, IF YOU BUILD A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT, THEN YOU'VE BUILT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE.
AND IF YOU'VE BUILT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA LIVE, THEN YOU'VE BUILT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA WORK.
AND IF YOU'VE BUILT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANNA WORK, THEN YOU'VE BUILT A PLACE WHERE BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS WILL INVEST.
AND IF YOU BUILD A PLACE WHERE BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS WILL INVEST, THEN YOU BUILD A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A CYCLE, REALLY, RIGHT? UM, AND I THINK IT ILLUSTRATES JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF PROMOTING ALL THE THINGS TO DO THAT WE HAVE HERE THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE.
IT, IT ALL STARTS WITH THAT VISIT.
THEN PEOPLE WANNA LIVE HERE, THEY WANNA WORK HERE, AND THEY WANNA INVEST HERE.
AND FORTUNATELY FOR A PLACE LIKE THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE, WHEN WE MEASURE OURSELVES AGAINST OTHER PLACES YOU CAN PLAN TRIPS TO IN THE TOURISM ARENA, WE CHECK THE BOXES ON ALL OF THE THINGS THAT LEADING DESTINATIONS OFFER FROM, UM, ATTRACTIONS AND EXPERIENCES TO A GREAT ARTS AND CULTURE SCENE, GREAT RESTAURANTS, OUTDOOR RECREATION MEETINGS AND CONVENTIONS, EVENTS, SPORTING EVENTS, HOTELS, MOTELS, ET CETERA.
UM, AND WE'RE AN ACCESSIBLE DESTINATION AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, AND WE CONTINUE TO DO AT VISIT WILLIAMSBURG, IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW VISITATION, UH, STRENGTHEN OUR BRAND IDENTITY AND STORYTELLING.
AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TWO 50TH COMING UP HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, MAKING SURE WE'RE MEETING VISITORS ON THEIR TERMS AND OFFERING ALL OF THE THINGS TO DO AND LEARN ABOUT THINGS TO DO THROUGH NEW DIGITAL TACTICS, UM, AND MAKING SURE WE'RE EXPANDING ON THAT VISITOR EXPERIENCE.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.
BUT AS AN OVERVIEW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT MORE HEADS IN BEDS, AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE NEED PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN TO CHOOSE THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE FOR THE NEXT TRIP TO STAY OVERNIGHT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS, UM, TOP OF MIND FOR OUR COMPANY.
AND I DID WANNA QUICKLY JUST RECAP, UM, THE LAST YEAR OF TOURISM.
AND FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR FISCAL PERIOD RUNS FROM JULY 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH.
AND THE TWO METRICS THAT WE LOOK AT QUITE A BIT, UM, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, OFTENTIMES A WEEKLY BASIS, ARE THE HOTEL DEMAND NUMBERS FROM WHAT THEY CALL THE STAR REPORT, WHICH IS PUBLISHED WEEKLY.
AND IT'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT OUR HOTELS IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS SOLD AT OUR HOTELS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE, UM, AT THE VERY FAR RIGHT OF THE TOP CHART, UM, MINIMAL GROWTH LAST YEAR DURING THAT TIME PERIOD WAS PRACTICALLY FLAT, REALLY TO THE PRIOR YEAR.
AND A FLAT YEAR IS ACTUALLY A GOOD YEAR GIVEN, UM, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE EXISTED ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, REALLY IN TERMS OF CONSUMER CONFIDENCE SPENDING HAS BEEN DOWN.
UM, WE HAD SOME UNUSUAL WINTER WEATHER IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR LAST YEAR, AND SOME FACTORS THAT WERE AT PLAY THAT PREVENTED US FROM ANY SERIOUS GROWTH.
WHILE A LOT OF DESTINATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAD SIGNIFICANT DROPS, I THINK THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE PROVED OUR RESILIENCE IN HAVING A FLAT OVERALL YEAR IN TERMS OF OUR HOTELS.
NOW, IF YOU WERE TO TALK TO OUR TIMESHARES, OUR AIRBNBS, OUR TRADITIONAL BED AND BREAKFAST, AND EVEN CAMPGROUNDS, UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE MORE OF A LIFT.
BUT THIS IS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT HOW THE HOTELS PERFORMED.
THE OTHER, UM, METRIC WE LIKE TO LOOK AT IS THE TRANSIENT TAX.
THE TRANSIENT TAX IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE PAYS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY STAY OVERNIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE HOTELS, IT'S ALSO THE MOTELS, THE AIRBNBS, UH, THE TRADITIONAL BMBS, THE CAMPGROUNDS LIKE I JUST MENTIONED.
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THAT TRANSIENT TAX INCREASED BY OVER 10%.AND I THINK ANY COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES OVER THIS PARTICULAR PERIOD WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY WITH 10% GROWTH.
AND THAT TRANSIENT TAX IS REALLY OUR BEST INDICATOR OF WHETHER OR NOT OVERNIGHT VISITATION IS GROWING HERE.
UM, AS WE LOOK AT SALES TAX NUMBERS, UM, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE ALSO FLATTENED OUT, WHICH TELLS US THAT, UH, LOCALS MAY BE TIGHTENING UP SPENDING EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN CONTINUE TO COME IN.
AND SO A LOT OF WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION DOES IS MARKETING, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT NEXT YEAR IN THE TWO 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
WE DO HAVE A NEW ADVERTISING PLATFORM, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
AND THAT PLATFORM IS WHERE AMERICA'S JOURNEY BEGINS.
WE FEEL THIS NEW PLATFORM FOR OUR ADVERTISING IS ONE WE CAN OWN, UH, WITH ALL THE HISTORY HERE IN YORKTOWN, JAMESTOWN, AND WILLIAMSBURG.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME INCREDIBLE EVENTS TO PROMOTE.
EVERYONE HERE KNOWS ABOUT, UH, THE SALE OF YORKTOWN FESTIVAL, WHICH WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH CHRISTIE AND HER TEAM ON MAKING SURE WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE IN TOWN, UH, TO HELP POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR ECONOMY IN JUNE.
IN TERMS OF OUR ADVERTISING EFFORTS, WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO ADVERTISE IN THAT KEY I 95 CORRIDOR FROM NEW YORK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CHARLOTTE.
AND JUST IN THAT ZONE, THERE ARE OVER 35 MILLION PEOPLE, AND WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO FOCUS AND FISH WHERE THE FISH ARE IN TERMS OF ATTRACTING VISITORS FROM OUT OF TOWN.
UM, SOME OF THE PARTNERS YOU'LL RECOGNIZE ON THIS SCREEN MAY BE FAMILIAR, SOME OF THEM MAY NOT.
WE WANT TO GET OUR MESSAGING IN FRONT OF TRADITIONAL, UH, VISITORS WHO WANT TO KEEP COMING BACK, BUT ALSO NEW VISITORS.
UH, SO YOU SEE THE HISTORY CHANNEL ON THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE SMITHSONIAN IS ANOTHER MARKETING PARTNER, A A RP, UH, THE NEW YORK TIMES.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THESE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT WE'VE GOT A VERY BROAD REACH IN TERMS OF OUR MARKETING FOR THE TWO 50TH.
HERE'S ONE EXAMPLE OF A BILLBOARD PEOPLE ARE SEEING.
UM, RIGHT NOW, AS THE CAMPAIGN HAS GONE LIVE, MOST OF THE TWO 50TH MARKETING WILL NOT BE SEEN IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS.
OUR MARKETING IS SHOWING UP IN PLACES LIKE CHARLOTTE, WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, DC BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT HEADS IN BEDS IN OUR HOTELS.
WE WANT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, UH, TO EXPERIENCE OUR GREAT DESTINATION.
AND OF COURSE, ANY MODERN MARKETING ORGANIZATION HAS LOTS OF DIGITAL MARKETING, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE WE'RE DOING, UH, 250 REASONS TO VISIT THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE.
WE'RE DOING THAT POST ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
AND FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING US TODAY, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, OUR INSTAGRAM PAGE, OUR TIKTOK PAGE, OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL, OUR LINKEDIN PAGE, AND OUR PINTEREST PAGE, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE ARE UPDATING THINGS TO DO, IF NOT EVERY DAY, EVERY OTHER DAY.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, DEFINITELY START FOLLOWING THIS THERE.
THERE'S ALSO SOME KEY, UM, TV PROGRAMS, I SHOULD SAY, THAT, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SAMANTHA BROWN.
SHE HAS A VERY POPULAR, UM, TRAVEL SHOW ON PBS.
HER AND HER CREW WERE HERE IN THE SPRING FILMING ALL THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE THAT SHOW, UH, WILL DEBUT EARLY NEXT YEAR.
UM, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, KEN BURNS AND HIS DOCUMENTARY STARTED A FEW DAYS AGO.
YES, WE HAVE ADVERTISING RUNNING RIGHT ALONGSIDE, UH, THE DOCUMENTARY IN OUR KEY MARKETS.
SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING THE DOCUMENTARY AT HOME HERE, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE OUR ADS.
OUR ADS ARE PLAYING IN MARKETS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA.
AND, UM, WE, WE WERE REALLY HAPPY AND EXCITED TO SUPPORT AND HELP PROMOTE, UH, THE EVENT OVER AT THE BATTLEFIELD.
WE EVEN HAD AN ACTIVATION AREA WHERE FOLKS COULD PARTICIPATE IN CREATING SQUARES FOR OUR 250TH BIRTHDAY QUILT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE.
UH, BUT I THOUGHT THE WHOLE TEAM, UH, CHRISTIE, DARREN, UM, JERRY MAR, THE WHOLE CREW JUST PUT ON AN AMAZING EVENT THERE AT THE BATTLEFIELD WHERE EVERYONE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE SOME OF THE FILM.
UH, FROM A PR STANDPOINT, LIKE ANY OTHER MARKETING ORGANIZATION, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE GETTING
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EXPOSURE IN A LOT OF THE KEY PUBLICATIONS.FORTUNATELY, THAT'S HAPPENING FOR US.
AND I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE QUILT PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS A NEW INITIATIVE FOR US.
WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, STEVE PRINCE.
STEVE IS THE DISTINGUISHED ARTIST IN RESIDENCE AT WILLIAM AND MARY, AND HE IS SETTING UP WORKSHOPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN DESIGN THEIR OWN 12 BY 12 QUILT SQUARE, SEND IT INTO OUR ORGANIZATION, AND A 250 FOOT LONG QUILT WILL BE STITCHED TOGETHER AND ROLLED OUT AND UNVEILED IN APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY STARTING TO PLAN A TOUR FOR THE QUILT, UM, AROUND THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND FIND THEIR SQUARE THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE QUILT SQUARES COMING IN FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
MANY OF THE QUILT SQUARES THAT COME INTO OUR OFFICE ALSO HAVE A LETTER EXPLAINING, UH, THE PERSONAL AMERICAN JOURNEY THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THESE QUILT DESIGNS.
AND THERE IS SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF CREATIVITY THAT'S FLOWING IN.
IT'S JUST SUCH AN EXCITING PROJECT TO SEE PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY ENGAGING, UM, WITH THIS IDEA.
IF PEOPLE HERE ARE A FAN OF TAKING SELFIES, UH, WE WILL BE INSTALLING 250TH SELFIE STATIONS AROUND THE TRIANGLE, UM, STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED.
WE DID HOST AN EVENT AT THE JAMESTOWN SETTLEMENT WHERE WE GAVE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM ACROSS THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE A BAG OF MARKETING MATERIALS THAT INCLUDED POSTCARDS FOR THEM TO INVITE GUESTS FROM OUT OF TOWN, UH, INFORMATION SHEETS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE NEXT YEAR, POSTERS FOR THEIR STORE, A WINDOW CLING THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THE FRONT OF THEIR SHOP DOOR THAT HAS A QR CODE GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PAGE, LISTING ALL OF THE EVENTS HAPPENING.
THEY WALKED AWAY WITH, AGAIN, MORE INFORMATION CARDS TO PUT IN THEIR STORE.
OF COURSE, WE HAD SOME SWAG, UM, T-SHIRTS, HATS, GETTING PEOPLE RALLIED AND EXCITED ABOUT, UM, THIS ONCE IN A GENERATION YEAR THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.
AND THEN THERE'S BEEN SOME BUSINESSES WHO ARE GETTING INVOLVED CREATING PRODUCTS WITH THE TWO 50TH LOGO ON THEM.
YOU CAN SEE THEIR WILLIAMSBURG WINERY, YANKEE CANDLE, UH, THE COLONIAL LADY T UM, BRAND HAS DONE SOME TEES WITH THE TWO 50TH BRANDING.
UM, IN TERMS OF EVENTS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT GREAT EVENTS HERE YEAR ROUND, ESPECIALLY NOW HERE IN THE LAST PART OF THE YEAR.
UM, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT THE YORKTOWN CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING COMING UP, THE LIGHTED BOAT PARADE, AND THERE'S JUST, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING FUN HAPPENING HERE.
AND I, I CREDIT THE TEAM HERE IN YORKTOWN FOR JUST ALWAYS HAVING SOMETHING FRESH AND SOMETHING NEW BAKING IN THE OVEN BECAUSE IT'S WORKING AND PEOPLE ARE COMING AND THEY'RE VISITING AND THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY.
AND FOR THE TWO 50, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL BE PROMOTING THE SALE YORKTOWN FESTIVAL, BUT JAMES CITY COUNTY WILL HAVE THEIR REVOLUTIONARY RHYTHMS EVENT, WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN APRIL.
AND WILLIAMSBURG WILL HAVE FLAME OF REVOLUTION, UH, WHICH WILL BE A TWO NIGHT EVENT ON DOG STREET IN WILLIAMSBURG.
MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE TWO 50TH EVENTS WILL BE COMING OUT SOON.
UH, BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE WE CONTINUE TO POST NEW INFORMATION.
AND WHAT'S NEW RIGHT NOW IS YOU CAN NOW BOOK HOTEL ROOMS@VISITWILLIAMSBURG.COM.
IN THE PAST, WE HAD INFORMATION ABOUT OUR HOTELS, BUT YOU COULD NOT ACTUALLY BOOK ROOMS. NOW WE HAVE A BOOK NOW, UH, BUTTON ON EVERY PAGE.
AND WHEN YOU CLICK THAT, YOU WILL COME TO THE LIST OF PLACES TO STAY OVERNIGHT.
AND IF BY CHANCE YOU WANNA STAY AT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HORNSBY HOUSE IN BED AND BREAKFAST, YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT, UM, TYPE IN YOUR DATES AND LEARN THAT YOU CAN STAY THERE RIGHT NOW FOR $279 A NIGHT AND RESERVE YOUR ROOM.
ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, YOU'LL NOTICE A SHEEP.
WE ARE DABBLING IN THE AI WORLD RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A VIRTUAL ASSISTANT, AND IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS TO DO, YOU CAN GET, UM, INFORMATION IN REAL TIME THROUGH THAT, THAT NEW FEATURE ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, HERE IS THE TOP 10 THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE CLICKING ON WHEN THEY COME TO OUR WEBSITE OVER THE LAST, UM, 30 DAYS.
YOU CAN SEE THERE BY NO SURPRISE, MUSEUMS, ATTRACTIONS, EVENTS, PLACES TO STAY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
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BACK IN YEAR TWO HERE WITH THE HISTORIC HOLIDAY PASS, WHICH IS A PASS YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ON YOUR PHONE.AND AS YOU CHECK INTO VARIOUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, OR YOU REDEEM THE DISCOUNTS THAT OUR BUSINESSES ARE OFFERING, YOU CAN REDEEM THOSE POINTS FOR A VERY UNIQUE CHRISTMAS ORNAMENT, UH, WHICH IS BEING DONE BY A LOCAL GLASSBLOWER.
JOHN SHELTON, IN YEAR TWO LAST YEAR, HE DID THIS PINEAPPLE DESIGN.
THIS YEAR HE'S CREATING A VERY INTERESTING TWO 50TH ORNAMENT.
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE ORNAMENTS, YOU CAN ALWAYS REDEEM YOUR POINTS FOR A T-SHIRT AS WELL.
UM, AS I WRAP UP, UM, WE HAD AN AWESOME TEAM OUTING, UM, HERE ON THE SCHOONER ALLIANCE.
AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, A FEW WEEKS BACK BEFORE IT STARTED TO GET CHILLY, UH, WITH THE, THE TEAM HERE IN YORKTOWN AS WELL AS, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY, AND, UH, THE WILLIAMSBURG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, UM, WE HAD PERFECT WEATHER, AND IT WAS JUST A GREAT TEAM BONDING PONDING EXPERIENCE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE NEXT, THE NEXT INITIATIVES COMING UP.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS PEOPLE MAY HAVE.
ED, ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE.
SO, UH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE GEOGRAPHICAL, UH, AREA FOR YOUR ADVERTISING? SURE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT REAL QUICK.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHERE ARE WE HERE, THERE, IT'S, THERE YOU GO.
SO OUT OUTTA THAT AREA, DID, IS THERE ANY ONE AREA THAT SHOWS GREATER INTEREST TO VISITING US THAN OTHERS? AND IF SO, DO YOU KNOW WHY, WHY THAT AREA'S INTERESTED? AND ARE WE DOING SOMETHING TO TARGET THEM MORE? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, WASHINGTON DC HAS BEEN OUR NUMBER ONE MARKET, UM, CONSISTENTLY FOR THE LAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, UM, THAT BEING OUR NUMBER ONE FEEDER MARKET IS CERTAINLY GOING TO IMPACT, UM, SOME OF THE NUMBERS FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
UM, WE'RE DOING PARTNERSHIPS IN, UH, DC AS WE SPEAK WITH THE WASHINGTON COMMANDERS.
WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WASHINGTON BUSINESS JOURNAL TO GET IN FRONT OF DECISION MAKERS AT COMPANIES WHO READ THE DAILY JOURNAL AND, AND TRY TO CONVINCE THEM TO START BRINGING THEIR RETREATS AND CORPORATE OUTINGS BACK TO WILLIAMSBURG, MORE SO LIKE THEY USED TO.
UM, BUT IT IS A, IT'S A, IT'S A SENSITIVE, UM, MARKET BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE, UM, RECENTLY.
UM, I'D SAY THAT AFTER WASHINGTON, A CLOSE SECOND WOULD BE PHILADELPHIA, AND THAT'S A MAJOR MARKET.
WE'RE STILL AGGRESSIVELY MARKETING THERE.
UM, CHARLOTTE IS MORE OF AN EMERGING MARKET AS IS, UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE OTHER TOWN IN NORTH CAROLINA.
UM, NOT, NOT RALEIGH, RALEIGH'S, THE OTHER ONE THAT WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK, UM, IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WHICH WE'RE KEEPING OUR EYE ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
AND SO THAT'S CLEARLY A, UH, HISTORICAL, UM, MINT YEAH.
SLANT TO INTEREST HERE, SO THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, SECOND QUESTION, IF YOU GO FORWARD TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE, UH, THE, LIKE THE TOP 10, UM, SEARCHES ON YOUR WEB WEBSITE.
ON THE WEBSITE? YEAH, ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, LEMME SEE, WHERE IS THAT? DID I PASS IT? NO, NOT YET.
SO, UM, SO NUMBER THREE IS PROBABLY PEOPLE ARE OUT TOWN THAT'S RIGHT.
PLACES TO STAY, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY METRICS ON WHERE THE OTHER RESPONSES ARE OR, OR HITS ARE COMING FROM? ARE THEY LOCAL OR THEY OUTTA TOWN? KIND OF CURIOUS WHETHER WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, MORE VISITORS FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, ARE HALF HOUR AWAY VERSUS THREE HOURS OR MORE AWAY.
WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SKEWED.
VER VIRGINIA, UM, LOCATIONS ARE TYPICALLY IN THE TOP SPOT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE EVEN LOCALS CONSTANTLY COME ON OUR WEBSITE TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR OF EVENTS PAGE, WHICH HAS ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO ISOLATE, UM, VIRGINIA DESTINATIONS, YOU KNOW, DC IS DEFINITELY RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, AS IS.
BALTIMORE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT SEEMS TO REALLY LOVE OUR WEBSITE.
IT'S INTERESTING, PHILADELPHIA IS IN THAT TOP FIVE, AND ACTUALLY NEW YORK, UM, RECENTLY HAS BEEN VISITING OUR WEBSITE QUITE A BIT.
WELL, I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG SPORTS AND EVENT CENTER,
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WE'RE SEEING SOME SERIOUS, UM, TOURNAMENTS, BOOKING ALREADY AHEAD OF THE OPENING OF THE CENTER.UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, GIRLS VOLLEYBALL, BOYS BASKETBALL, GYMNASTICS, WRESTLING, ALL KINDS OF SPORTS WANT TO BE HERE.
THEY, THEY LOVE THIS WHOLE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO IN BETWEEN GAMES.
WE'RE A FAMILY FRIENDLY DESTINATION, AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED, TO BE HONEST, IS SOME NEW HOTELS AND SOME NEW, UM, BIGGER RESTAURANTS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE GROUPS, BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE OVER 100 TEAMS COMPETING OVER THREE DAYS.
AND ALL OF THOSE TEAMS WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN, THEY NEED PLACES TO STAY, THEY NEED PLACES TO EAT.
AND OFTENTIMES MANY OF THESE GAMES WILL WRAP UP AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WHEN THEY LEAVE, WE NEED TO BE READY FOR 'EM.
AND WE WANT ALL OF THESE TEAMS TO STAY OVERNIGHT IN THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE.
UH, OVER IN WILLIAMSBURG, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD SOME HOTELS, UH, SHUT DOWN LATELY, AND THEY'RE GONNA CONVERT TO APARTMENTS.
WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EITHER RENOVATE SOME OF THE EXISTING HOTELS OR, OR PUT SOME SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND BUILD SOME NEW PRODUCT AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MY HONEST ANSWER.
WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT IS I'M SEEING VERY LARGE BOOKINGS FOR THAT SPORTS FACILITY.
UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE HERE QUICK.
AND ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT? UH, AS MUCH AS WE ALL WANT TO.
UM, I THINK ORGANICALLY WE WILL GET MORE NEW HOTELS THAT WILL BE BUILT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE WITH THAT, THE TIMING RIGHT NOW, UH, BETWEEN HIGHER INTEREST RATES, UM, TARIFFS ON IMPORTED STEEL, LESS CONSTRUCTION LABOR AVAILABLE, IT'S JUST NOT FAVORABLE TO BE BUILDING A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AT THE MOMENT.
HOPEFULLY THINGS STABILIZE, UH, AS WE GET INTO THE NEW YEAR, BUT, UH, IT'S ANYBODY'S GUESS.
BUT THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
DWAYNE, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON SOME OF THE, THE, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX AS FAR AS HOW MANY HOTELS ARE BEING BOOKED AND HOW MANY TOURNAMENTS? COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, SURE.
UM, MOST OF THE BIGGER TOURNAMENTS, UM, HAVE BEEN A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO BOOK IN 2026.
THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A RISK TO BOOK EARLY ON UNTIL THE, IT'S UP AND RUNNING MM-HMM
AND SO A BIG PERCENTAGE OF THE BIGGER TOURNAMENTS WILL START ARRIVING IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2027.
UM, THE LATEST NUMBERS WE HAVE, WE'VE BOOKED OVER 90,000 ROOM NIGHTS, UM, OF NEW TOURNAMENTS THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE AREA THAT HAVE NOT IN THE PAST.
NOW, THAT IS OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.
MANY OF THE BIGGER EVENTS THAT ARE DIVERTING THEIR TOURNAMENTS FROM OTHER FACILITIES TO OUR NEW FACILITY ARE SIGNING UP FOR THREE YEAR DEALS, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, AND YES, WE ARE USING, UH, INCENTIVE DOLLARS TO HELP SECURE SOME OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THEY WILL BRING.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE MM-HMM
THE NEXT TIME ON MORE SPECIFICS, BUT I FEEL REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, 6, 7, 8 MONTHS BEFORE THE DOORS OPEN, SEEING, UH, THE, THE KIND OF VOLUME AND INTEREST LEVEL IN BRINGING SPORTS TO THAT FACILITY.
ED, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT, IT'S ENERGIZING AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR WEBSITE SO THEY CAN BRING THEIR RELATIVES IN YES.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
[3. York Poquoson Social Services Annual Report Presentation by Margaret Mack-Yaroch, Director of Social Services.]
THE, UH, NEXT PRESENTATION IS YORK OCS AND SOCIAL SERVICES ANNUAL, THE REPORT.AND MARGARET MC, ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE IT TONIGHT? I CAN'T SAY HER LAST NAME.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, GOOD EVENING.
UM, MRS. CHAIRMAN, UH, NOLL, AS
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WELL AS FELLOW BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND COUNTY ATTORNEY.I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS REPORT A YEAR, LOOK BEHIND.
UM, AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED TODAY WITH OUR PRESENTATION, I'LL CERTAINLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT WILL BE BRIEF TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CHAIR, DR. TUCKER, WHO REPRESENTS YORK COUNTY AS WELL AS OUR VICE CHAIR, UM, MRS. WIGGINS IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT, UM, DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST READ TO YOU, AND I'VE ALSO GIVEN YOU A COPY OF THE REPORT THAT SUPPORTS OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
UM, THEIR LETTER TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE.
SO, TO CHAIRMAN SHEILA, NO, MEMBERS OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR AND MAYOR DAVID HOOKS, THE MEMBERS OF THE OCN CITY COUNCIL.
THE YORK OCN DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD IS PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS ANNUAL REPORT AS MANDATED BY THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, HIGHLIGHTING THE SERVICES PROVIDED AND OUTCOMES ACHIEVED BY THE YORK OCN DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IN 2025.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, WE'RE REPORTING FOR 2024.
THE REPORT UNDERSCORES A SUBSTANTIAL AND POTENTIALLY GROWING DEMAND FOR YORK PCOS AND DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.
AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR, THE BOARD IS ALERT TO POTENTIAL CHANGES REGARDING FEDERAL AND STATE POLICY THAT COULD IMPACT RESIDENTS ACCESS TO BASIC HUMAN NEEDS SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
CHANGES SUCH AS THE NEW WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR MEDICAID CHANGES TO ELIGIBILITY FOR CHILDCARE SUBSIDIES, AND SNAP AND FUNDING REDUCTIONS FOR SERVICES TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HAD THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE WORK WORKLOAD AND YORK POSA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.
WE NOTE THAT SEVERAL FACTORS CONTINUE TO DRIVE THE HEIGHTENED DEMAND FOR SERVICES.
THOSE FACTORS INCLUDE AN INCREASING NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN OUR LOCALITY, LIVING BELOW THE POVERTY LINE FACING FOOD INSECURITY.
THE PERSISTENT EFFECTS OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, INCLUDING THE LOSS OF BENEFITS AND A GROWING OLDER POPULATION, WHICH WE SEE IN BOTH LOCALITIES AND A CONTINUOUS NEED FOR SUPPORT IN AREAS SUCH AS ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, AND DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE INTERVENTION, TO NAME A FEW.
ADDRESSING THESE TRENDS AND ISSUES THROUGH THE LENS OF EQUITY AND ITS CORE VALUES WILL ALLOW YORK PICOS AND SOCIAL SERVICES TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY.
EFFECTIVELY, THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS ELIGIBLE FOR AND ACCESSING PUBLIC BENEFITS.
THIS RIDING CASELOAD IS PARTLY DUE TO THE ONGOING CHANGES IN STATE AND FEDERAL POLICIES RELATED TO MEDICAID AND CHILDREN CHILDCARE SERVICES.
THE NUMBER OF SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM RECIPIENTS HAS REMAINED HIGH INDICATING THAT MANY, MANY FAMILIES WHO ACCESS THIS SERVICE DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC CONTINUE TO RELY ON IT FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE SERVICES.
IN CHILD WELFARE, AGING, ADULT SERVICES AND DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE SERVICES HAVE SEEN A STEADY INCREASE.
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE YORK POCS AND DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES REMAINS DEDICATED TO WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER AGENCIES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND RESIDENTS, TO BUILD A MORE EQUITABLE COMMUNITY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE CHALLENGES CANNOT BE ADDRESSED IN ISOLATION.
TO MEET THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF YORK COUNTY AND OCN, YORK OCN, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES MUST REMAIN ADAPTABLE, STABLE, AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
TIMELY INTERVENTIONS HELP CHILDREN SUCCEED IN SCHOOL, TEENS PURSUE WORK OR EDUCATION, AND ADULTS BECOME HOMEOWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS AND OLDER ADULTS REMAIN ACTIVE AND INDEPENDENT.
THESE EFFORTS ARE VITAL TO BUILDING A VIBRANT COMMUNITY FOR YORK COUNTY AND OCN, AND MUST BE SUPPORTED.
AS WE NAVIGATE THIS TIME OF CHANGE, THE BOARD LIKES TO THANK THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE OCN CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS ONGOING SUPPORT OF YORK OCN, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE BROADER HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SYSTEM.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED COLLABORATION AND ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES FACING OUR COMMUNITIES.
SINCERELY, DR. JAMES TUCKER, CHAIR FOR YORK POC AND SOCIAL SERVICES, THE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO READ THAT.
WHAT I'M MOST EXCITED TO READ TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND IF I HIT THIS CORRECTLY.
SO TO FIRST START OFF WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR MISSION IS TO ASSIST IN THE BASIC NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS, PROMOTE SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND PROTECT OUR VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND ADULTS.
SOME OF OUR CORE VALUES HIGHLIGHT CUSTOMER SERVICE, TEAMWORK, COMMUNICATION, ATTITUDE, AND DEPENDABILITY.
SUMMARY OF IMPACT FOR 2024, 16,616
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UNDUPLICATED COUNT OF DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES CLIENTS IS UNDUPLICATED, MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT COUNTING THEM IN ONE PROGRAM AREA, OR ANOTHER.JUST FOR, UM, YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND REFERENCE, 1,329 COMBINED A PS, ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND CPS CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES REPORTS 4,934 REQUESTS FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE 710 SERVICE INTAKE PROGRAM.
THOSE ARE BASICALLY INQUIRIES TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR, OR WHAT PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER.
409 CHILDCARE AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, UH, REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE, SOCIAL SERVICES SPENDING.
SO WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN INTO ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, PURCHASED SERVICES, CLIENT BENEFITS, AND THEN A TOTAL, AND THEN A PERCENTAGE BY SOURCE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROUDEST OF IS THAT WE ARE VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE RESPECT THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT OVER 53%, UM, IS REIMBURSED BY FEDERAL DOLLARS, 44% BY STATE DOLLARS, ONLY 4% BY LOCAL DOLLARS.
NER MEANS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST DUE TO STATE CODE AND POLICIES IS LESS THAN 1% AT A 0.3.
SO ALL SOURCES GIVE YOU THE TOTAL OF THE IMPACT FOR THE SERVICES THAT OUR CLIENTS HAVE RECEIVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
IS, IS THAT, SORRY, IS THAT, LET ME GO BACK.
IS THAT JUST YORK OR YORK KOSIN? IT'S A COMBINED YORK POIN.
IN THE BOOK BOOKLET THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, I DO HAVE IT SEPARATED OUT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK EXAMPLE, JUST DUE TO THE SIZE AND THE CITIZENS THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN E EACH LOCALITY, UM, YORK OCN IS THE MAJORITY AT ROUGHLY AROUND, UM, 70,000 PLUS.
AND, UH, OCN WOULD BE ABOUT 15,000.
SO THE SERVICES ARE OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE MUCH MORE INCREASED JUST BASED ON SIZE.
GOING TO OUR PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING BY SOURCE, YOU CAN SEE THAT 53% IS FEDERAL.
UH, 44% IS STATE, WHICH MEANS THAT'S REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE COUNTY FOR THE SERVICES THAT SUPPORT AND HELP OUR CITIZENS IN NEED.
UM, AND THEN LESS OR RIGHT AROUND 4% IS FOR LOCAL MATCH.
THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE ON YOUR COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO CONTRIBUTE WITH HAVING THAT REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEDERAL AND STATE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES TOTALS THE TOTAL AMOUNT, INCLUDING NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT COST SPENT ON SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE LOCALITY.
FISCAL YEAR 2024 WAS $109,877.
THE TOTAL AMOUNT SPENT ON SOCIAL SERVICES CONTRIBUTED BY THE LOCALITY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY MUCH LOCAL NUMBER, INCLUDING THE NON-ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT COSTS IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE WATCHING ONLINE, UM, OF COURSE YOU CAN VISIT US MULTIPLE WAYS.
WE OBVIOUSLY ARE LOCATED ON THE YORK, UM, COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF PECOS AND WEBSITE.
YOU CAN VISIT US THAT WAY UNDER SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
YOU CAN APPLY WITH US FOR BENEFITS ONLINE OR MAKE INQUIRIES AND SEND EMAILS.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN OFFICE AT ANY TIME IN PERSON, UM, IN YOUR COUNTY.
AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO PLEASE CALL OUR MAIN LINE NUMBER, WHICH IS 7 5 7 8 9 0 3 7 8 7.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARGARET.
ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY? YES.
WE'LL COME BACK TO THE TOPIC LATER IN THE MEETING, BUT I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO SNAP.
NOW, IT'S FULLY FEDERALLY FUNDED ACCORDING TO THE, UH, SPREADSHEET IN FRONT OF US, BUT WE KNOW THAT FEDERAL FUNDING FELL SHORT IN OCTOBER.
WHAT HAS THE IMPACT BEEN? WHAT HAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT, UH, OF THAT SHORTAGE BEEN FOR YORK MOSA? SO THE, THE NEEDS ARE EVER INVOLVING CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, TODAY, IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, AND I'VE FORWARDED TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS, NOT JUST SNAP BEING AFFECTED, UM, UNTIL WE SEE THE TOTAL, UH, LINE OUTCOME OF IT SNAP AS FAR AS REIMBURSEMENT HAS BEEN REINSTATED, OBVIOUSLY, BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE HAD ITS EMERGENCY PLAN PUT IN PLACE.
UM, WHAT WILL REMAIN TO BE SEEN, AND WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON, IS HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT, THERE IS A PORTION OF SNAP BENEFITS THAT ALSO REIMBURSES FOR THE STAFF THAT ACTUALLY ISSUE THOSE STAFF BENEFITS.
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SO THERE'S A PER PERCENTAGE OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, WHICH IS WHERE YOU SAID EARLIER BEING FULLY FUNDED, IT DOES SHOW A LOCAL MATCH, BUT IT SHOWS A LOCAL MATCH BECAUSE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TO STAFF AND NOT ACTUALLY THE ISSUANCE OF THE BENEFITS THEMSELVES TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RECEIVING THEM.HAS THERE BEEN CLARIFICATION ON WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE 40 DAY SHUTDOWN WILL BE REIMBURSED? IT HAS NOT BEEN MADE CLEAR TO US AS OF YET.
CAN, CAN YOU TOUCH UPON WHAT YOU SEE AS A SUCCESS RATE? EXCUSE ME, FOR YOUR, FOR PEOPLE GAINING, YOUR CLIENTS GAINING SELF-SUFFICIENCY THROUGH THE PROGRAM? I WOULD SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SUCCESS RATE AND THAT WHILE WE SEE THE INCREASE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING AND NEEDING BENEFITS, RIGHT.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWOFOLD THINGS.
AS A DIRECTOR THAT'S BEEN HERE OVER FIVE YEARS, I'M ALSO SEEING AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE BECOMING SELF-SUFFICIENT.
SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWOFOLD FACTORS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE THAT NEED EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE, RIGHT.
OR NEEDING EDUCATION SERVICES THAT SUGGESTS THEY'RE BECOMING MORE INDEPENDENT ON THEIR OWN, THE FACT THAT THERE'S AN INTAKE FOR FOOD INSECURITY OR OTHER BENEFITS CAN BE IMPACTED BY MANY FACTORS, AND NOT JUST THE FACT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T BECOMING MORE SELF RELIABLE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME AS THE DIRECTOR, I DO THINK WE'RE SEEING A POSITIVE TREND, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC FROM COVID, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN FOOD INSECURITY, AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE BECOME SELF-RELIANT.
MY NUMBERS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT RATE OF SUCCESS WITH SELF-SUFFICIENCY IS A, IS IS A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR TO ME.
I LIKE TO SEE US START TRACKING THAT.
AND SO WE CAN SEE HOW THAT TRENDS OVER TIME.
HOPEFULLY WE SEE INCREASING AS A PERCENTAGE, AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE, THAT WE ASSIST.
SO I CAN CERTAINLY HAVE, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST DOES THAT.
HE DOES A LOT OF REPORTS DETAILED FOR ME.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR FOCUS THIS YEAR IN SOCIAL SERVICES FOR OUR SELF-SUFFICIENCY UNIT HAS BEEN DUE MORE EDUCATION AND TRAINING IN HOUSE FOR OUR CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SENDING THEM TO A COLLEGE OR TO EARN A CNA CERTIFICATION OR THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S BUDGETING, IT'S FINANCE, IT'S GROCERIES.
WHERE DO YOU ACCESS YOUR CHILDCARE? UM, HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR DAY TIME MANAGEMENT? UM, SO THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT PLAY INTO THE FACT WITH SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
AND THEN WE ALSO KNOW THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE.
TRANSPORTATION BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARGARET.
I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME PRESENT TODAY.
[CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD]
OKAY.NEXT ON THE AGENDAS IS CITIZENS' COMMENT, AND I HAVE PAM POEO WHO SIGNED UP.
PAM POEO, 1 0 3 KIMBERLY COURT, YORKTOWN.
TONIGHT, YOU ARE VOTING TO GIVE $100,000 TO THE FOOD BANK, DESPERATE FOR, DESPERATE FOR DONATIONS, WHICH TRUMP HAS STOPPED FUNDING.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SAYS THEY ARE A PARTY OF LAW AND ORDER FERRETING OUT WASTE AND ABUSE.
SO WHY IS TRUMP PARTYING VIOLENT CRIMINALS AND THOSE WHO DEFRAUDED THE GOVERNMENT? WHY ARE INSPECTOR GENERALS WHO INVESTIGATE FRAUD AND ABUSE BEING FIRED? MAYBE BECAUSE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING PEOPLE LIKE ELON MUSK AND OTHERS WHO ARE TRUMP SUCK UP WITH BILLION DOLLAR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.
MAYBE BECAUSE PETE HEGSETH FIRED MILITARY GENERALS.
SO HE AND CASH PATEL COULD NOW OCCUPY THEIR HOMES RENT FREE ON A MILITARY BASE, MAYBE BECAUSE TRUMP IS GUILTY OF IGNORING THE EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE.
AND NOW THERE IS NO INSPECTOR GENERAL TO REIGN IN HIS ABUSE.
GIVING CHRISTIE NOME A $230 MILLION JET IS PURE WASTE.
TRUMP IS OBSESSED WITH PREVENTION, ACCUMULATING WEALTH, NOT LAW AND ORDER.
IMAGINE YOU LEASE YOUR HOME WHILE STATIONED OVERSEAS.
THE LESS HE DECIDES THE HOUSE WAS NOT ADEQUATE.
SO HE TORE DOWN PART OF YOUR HOME TO BUILD SOMETHING HE PREFERRED IS THIS LEGAL.
TRUMP TORE DOWN THE EAST WING OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND IS RENOVATING ROOMS WITHOUT PERMISSION, COMPETITIVE BIDS OR PERMITS.
WE DO NOT NEED A GILDED BORDELLO OR A BALLROOM FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND WELL-CONNECTED WEALTHY PARTYGOERS WITH EVENTS FUNDED BY THE TAXPAYERS.
TRUMP ONCE SAID THE WHITE HOUSE IS A REAL DUMP.
TRUMP NOW SAYS, RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES, BUT HE ORDERED PAM BONDI TO INVESTIGATE DEMOCRATS NAMED IN THE FILES.
THIS CREATES AN ISSUE OF RELEASING FILES DURING AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION.
TRUMP'S NEW WAY OF TO STOP THEIR RELEASE INVESTIGATE TRUMP SINCE HIS NAME APPEARS OVER 1500 TIMES IN THE FILES.
EPSTEIN IN A DEPOSITION WAS ASKED IF HE AND TRUMP EVER SOCIALIZE WITH FEMALES UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
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VERY LEAST, TRUMP IS MORALLY CORRUPT.HE ENTERED DRESSING ROOMS FOR MS. TEEN USA PAGEANTS TO OGLE NAKED GIRLS.
WHEN ASKED WHAT TRAITS HIS INFANT DAUGHTER HAD INHERITED FROM MARLA, HE SAID TIFFANY HAD MARLA'S LONG LEGS AND TIME WILL TELL IF SHE HAS MARLA'S AND USED HAND GESTURES TO INDICATE BREASTS.
HE SAID HE WOULD DATE IVANKA IF SHE WAS NOT HIS DAU, IF SHE WAS HIS DAU, NOT HIS DAUGHTER.
WHEN ASKED WHAT HE HAD IN COMMON WITH IVANKA, HE SAID, SEX, HE SAID, OF A 12-YEAR-OLD, HE WOULD BE DATING HER IN 10 YEARS.
THE PRETEEN PHOTOS OF TRUMP AND IVANKA ARE DISTURBING TO SAY THE LEAST.
TRUMP ADMITTED EPSTEIN LIKED YOUNG GIRLS.
TRUMP SAYS THIS IS A HOAX INDICATING THE VICTIMS ARE LIARS WHO ARE OUT TO GET HIM.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE DENIALS OF A GUILTY MAN.
IF ICE IS ONLY DEPORTING VIOLENT CRIMINALS, WHY NOT IN RED CITIES? ASK TRUMP TO INVADE YORK COUNTY WITH HIS MASKED THUGS TO HARASS, TERRIFY AND PHYSICALLY ATTACK OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING US CITIZENS.
THOSE WHO ARE HERE LAWFULLY TEAR GAS AND ZIP TIE CHILDREN AND DESTROY PROPERTY DEMAND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR RED AND BLUE CITIES.
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS, MR. HILL.UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, BUT I WOULD NOTE THAT, UH, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AS YOU KNOW, WILL BE GATHERING AGAIN IN JANUARY.
AND THE BILLS HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO BE FILED.
UM, THERE ARE OVER 40 SOME BILLS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRE-FILED SINCE YESTERDAY.
AND OF COURSE, THEY COVER THE GAMUT OF TOPICS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, INCLUDING ONE BILL THAT WAS FILED TODAY TO COMPLETELY REPEAL VIRGINIA'S RIGHT TO WORK PROVISIONS MM-HMM
UM, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER EMPLOYMENT RELATED MATTERS.
WE WILL KEEP YOU ADVISED, UM, ON MATTERS AS THEY COME UP.
ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HILL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
MR. BELLAMY? YES, MA'AM.UH, I'D LIKE TO START OFF TONIGHT BY RECOGNIZING THE CONCLUSION OF OUR FIRST GOV SERIES, BASICALLY AS CITIZENS ACADEMY.
AND, UH, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAD LOTS OF GREAT COMMENTS.
AND THANK, UH, KELLY TATUM AND SAM ARTHUR AND A LOT OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.
UM, LOT, LOTS OF GREAT COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
PEOPLE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT THEY LEARNED, UH, AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE IN THE CLASS CAME AWAY AND SAID THEY LEARNED SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.
SO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT YEAR.
SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK DONE THERE.
THE SECOND THING I WANT TO TAKE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE IS, UH, MS. OWENS AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT THEY EARNED THE TRIPLE CROWN FROM GFOA FOR THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTING WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ER THAT WE STARTED LAST YEAR.
IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.
SO IT'S A, A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
IT'S A LOT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, SOMETHING WE ALL STRIVE FOR.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAD SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT COMMENT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NUMBERS SOMETIMES CAN BE VERY DRY, BUT VERY IMPORTANT, VERY, VERY NECESSARY.
AND THERESA AND YOUR STAFF, YOU DO SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB DOTTING THE I'S AND CROSSING THE T'S AND MAKING SURE GOING BACK OVER AND OVER AND OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS AND THE REPORTS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND YOU'VE BEEN RE AWARDED FOR THAT AND REWARDED FOR THAT.
SO, HATS OFF TO ALL OF YOU WHO WORK ON THE FINANCE ISSUES FOR THE COUNTY, AND THE TRANSPARENCY IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE STUCK TO THAT TOO.
SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH THE BOARD APPRECIATES YOUR HARD WORK.
A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, THE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TWO, TWO.
SO, UH, WITH EACH ONE OF YOU, I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION, UH, DURING THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, TAX RELIEF, ET CETERA.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOVERNMENT HAS COME BACK IN SESSION, UH, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, WE HAVE SEEN SOME TAX RELIEF IN THE FORM OF, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, NEWPORT NEWS WATER WORKS IS SUSPENDED CUTOFFS FOR THE TIME BEING, UH, LATER IN THIS, UH, PROCEEDING TONIGHT.
YOU ALL WILL VOTE AS MS. POHO, UH, POINTED OUT, YOU ALL WILL VOTE FOR A CONTRIBUTION TO THE FOOD BANK AS WELL.
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SO IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND TAKE COMMENTS IF THAT YOU SO DESIRE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ALONG THOSE LINES RIGHT NOW? NO, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE'LL CONSIDER IT FOR FURTHER.
AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE.
ONE QUESTION I HAVE, UH, MR. YES, SIR.
DID I ALSO SEE, UH, HONORS OR RECOGNITION FOR ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM TODAY? DID I SEE AN AWARD FOR THAT? YES.
UM, I HAVE TO CONFESS, WE WERE PRETTY BUSY TODAY AND I MAY I HAVE, UH, MISSED THAT ONE.
UM, THE INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL OF EVENTS ASSOCIATION DID, UM, RECOGNIZE, UM, ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT FOR, UM, SEVERAL AWARDS, UM, INCLUDING, UM, BEST FACEBOOK PAGE, UM, BEST SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AND ALSO, UM, BEST NEW EVENT, A SMALLER EVENT AS PART OF A LARGER EVENT FOR THE YORKTOWN TEA FESTIVAL AND PARTY THAT WE HELD HAD LAST YEAR.
AND THANK YOU TO THE FINANCE TEAM.
ANY, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE, MR. BOWMAN? NO, MA'AM.
UH, TOM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? UH, SURE.
UM, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON, UM, THE RECYCLING PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UH, NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
UM, AFTER SEEING ALL THE, THE STUFF THAT'S BEING THROWN AWAY NOW, I KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF HARD AFTER ALL THESE YEARS TO THROW A, A THROW A CAN INTO THE GARBAGE CAN.
UH, THE DAY, UM, THE, UH, DAILY PRESS HAD A, UH, ART, UH, ARTICLE.
IT'S A MATTER OF TRASH, AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE USE OF AI.
UH, EVERYBODY HEARS THE WORD AI, AI THIS, AI THAT DATA CENTERS, YOU KNOW, THE AI.
UM, AND THEY TALK ABOUT USE OF, UH, AN AI AS A TOOL TO HELP WITH THE PROCESSING OF RECYCLABLES.
AND, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, AI IS, IS BEING USED IN, IN, IN EVERYTHING.
OKAY? IF SOME PEOPLE ARE ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT OR IT'S TAKING OVER A HUMAN OF WORK OR WHATEVER, UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO USE IN THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S KIND OF A CLEAR LINE.
UH, ESPECIALLY YOU TIE IT TO ROBOTICS, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN THE ROBOTS THEN CAN PICK THROUGH THE TRASH AND FIND THE RECYCLABLE PRODUCTS.
UM, NOW, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, RECYCLING COSTS A LOT OF MONEY.
WE, WE PAY MILLIONS FOR US TO RECYCLE.
AND THE STORY, THIS ONE WAS ABOUT THE, UH, SOUTHERN PUBLIC SERVICE AUTHORITY, WHICH IS EQUIPS EQUIVALENT TO OUR VSA, BUT IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILLIAMSBURG AND, UH, CHESAPEAKE.
AND SO WHAT THE REASON I'M BRING THIS UP IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND NOT BE STUCK IN A, A, UM, A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO USE OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY TO ENHANCE, UM, OUR ABILITY TO IMPROVE OUR ENVIRONMENT, PARTICULARLY IN THE SENSE OF HOW WE'RE DOING, UH, RECYCLING.
AND WHAT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT THE, UM, THE PS OR WHATEVER CA UH, THE SOUTHERN SIDE, UH, IT'S GONNA COST THEM ABOUT 20 OTHER CITIES.
IT'S GONNA COST THEM ABOUT 22 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER $22 MILLION, UH, A YEAR TO RECYCLE.
OKAY? AND MANY OF US HAVE, WE'VE GONE OVER TO THE TFC PLANT AND WE'VE SEEN THE RECYCLING OVER THERE.
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THEY HIRED 250 PEOPLE AND THEY WERE PICKED THROUGH THIS STUFF AS FAST AS THEY COULD.
IT WAS LIKE GOING DOWN A BELT.
AND THEN THEY BROUGHT IN A THING CALLED REAL TIME CAMERAS, WHICH TIED TO COMPUTERS AND IT WOULD BLOW THE AIR, JETS OF AIR AT CERTAIN THINGS.
A CAN LOOKED LIKE A CAN OR, OR THEY HAVE FLAPPERS FOR CARDBOARD AND THEY'D COLLECT THAT.
SO THEY REDUCED IT FROM 250 DOWN TO 50.
OKAY? UM, AND, BUT THEY STILL COULD GET RID OF THE HUMAN ASPECTS OF IT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE, NOW THE NEXT PHASE IS GONNA BE THE USE OF AI AND WHERE THE, WHERE YOU, YOU, YOU SEE THE VALUE IN THIS AND WHAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IN COMPANIES THAT WE WILL HAVE CONTRACTS WITH.
AND THE BEAUTY IS NOW WE ARE OWNING THE CONTRACT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THAT CRAP WE WENT THROUGH LAST TIME.
SO ALL THE TRASH YOU THINK OF IT, WE, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE RECYCLING, HAVE TO PICK THROUGH OUR GARBAGE, PUT IT IN A CAN, OR A, A A, A BIG
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CART.AND WE HAUL IT OUT TO THE END OF THE ROAD, AND THEN THEY COUNTY COMES, OR THE COUNTY.
BUT THE, THE COMPANY, UH, WILL COME BY AND PICK IT UP, AND THEN THEY PILE IT.
AND, AND IT'S GOT, NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE CANS AND, AND CARDBOARD AND PAPER AND STUFF AND PLASTICS, BUT IT'LL HAVE BABY DIAPERS AND BANANAS AND EVERYTHING, ALL THE ORGANIC MATERIAL.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY DUMP IT IN THERE AND WHAT IT DOES, IT COSTS US IN THE END.
OKAY? SO THIS THING OF USING AI, UM, IS INTERESTING.
'CAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT WHY HAVE RECYCLES IN TERMS OF CANS AND SEPARATE, YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT COMES IN, PICKS UP ALL THE TRASH, TAKES ALL THE TRASH, AND IT PUT, RUNS ALL THE TRASH ON A, ON A BELT AND IT PICK, AND THIS, THESE COMPUTERS NOW WILL PICK IT RIGHT THERE.
SO WE DON'T END UP WITH SEPARATE CONTRACTS, WASTE, YOU KNOW, GARBAGE CONTRACT AND A, AND A RECYCLING CONTRACT.
NOW, OUR CONTRACT IS A COMBINED CONTRACT, BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF TRANSFERRING AND IT, IT COSTS, IT'S GONNA COST US MONEY, OKAY? AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BEING, WE ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY FOR THE CONTRACT, BUT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW OUR CITIZENS FEEL ABOUT THE RECYCLING.
UH, TO ME, RECYCLING MAKES SENSE.
TAKE STEEL CANS, YOU MAKE STEEL, YOU TAKE ALUMINUM CANS, YOU PUT 'EM BACK ON THE SHELF IN ABOUT 60 DAYS.
CARDBOARD, YOU SELL CARDBOARD TO ALL THE PAPER COMPANIES AROUND HERE THAT BUY UP EVERYTHING THEY CAN GET FROM CARDBOARD.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE STUFF GOES.
GLASS, NOT MUCH PLASTICS ARE OKAY, YOU STILL GET SOME, UH, RECYCLING ON THAT.
BUT THE AMOUNT OF STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
WHEN THE NAVY ON THE SOUTH SIDE QUIT BURNING, THEY USED TO BURN THE TRASH OVER THERE.
AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS GENERATE STEAM.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON A NAVY BASE YEARS AGO, THEY PIPE STEAM ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BASE.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY OPERATED EVERYTHING.
THEY JUST RAN A STEAM SYSTEM, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE STUFF THEY COULDN'T, UH, BURN.
WHEN THEY STOPPED DOING THAT, ALL OF A SUDDEN 1500 TONS OF MATERIAL THEN HAD TO BE TAKEN TO THE DUMP AND JUST DUMPED BY DOING THIS AI WHAT'S HAPPENING? THEY'RE SEEING THAT THERE, THAT OVER 50% OF THE PRODUCTS WILL BE USED, WHICH RE WHICH THEN REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF STUFF GOING INTO THE, UH, DUMPS.
AND, UH, AND THE DUMPS, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GETTING SMALLER.
AND THE, THE POINT IS, WE, INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE, UH, UH, FILL UP BY, UH, 2030, IT COULD BE UP, IT COULD FILL UP AROUND 2095.
OKAY? SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD VALUE HERE AND, AND MARK AND, YOU KNOW, AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, JUST, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR EAR TO THE GROUND AND WE SEE THAT STUFF COMING OUR WAY.
WAYNE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UM, NO, UH, OTHER THAN JUST TO WISH EVERYBODY A, A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
BE SAFE OUT THERE AND ENJOY TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND HUG THOSE BABIES AND KISS 'EM WHEN YOU CAN.
YEAH, I WAS ALSO HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY AGAIN, THAT NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE A GOOD TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AS, AS YOU'RE ABLE.
REAL QUICK I WANNA TOUCH UPON, WE, WE TOUCHED UPON, UM, THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN HERE BRIEFLY TONIGHT.
THAT'S OVER WITH NOW, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
BUT I KIND OF WANT TO REAL BRIEFLY KIND OF TOUCH UPON REAL WORLD IMPACTS OF, OF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
AND WE CAN SPEND ALL NIGHT PROBABLY DISCUSS THE DEBATE AND THE, THE, THE WHY'S AND THE WHO'S AND AND SO FORTH.
I DON'T WANNA FOCUS ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW MYSELF, I, I TALKED WITH SOME FOLKS IN THE COUNTY THAT WERE STRUGGLING, UM, WITH SOME FINANCIAL ISSUES DUE TO THE SHUTDOWN OF MR. SHEPHERD.
I KNOW YOU RECEIVED AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME AS WELL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AROUND HOW, HOW DO WE HELP OUT WITH THAT? UM, LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SAW SOME LIMITATIONS, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THE GOVERNMENT IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THAT GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AFFECTED ABOUT 1.4 MILLION GOVERNMENT WORKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ACROSS THE WORLD, REALLY.
AND THAT, AND THAT 43 DAYS, THEY WERE SHUT DOWN, THAT EQUATED TO ABOUT EIGHT TO $9 BILLION OF SALARY THAT DIDN'T GET, DIDN'T GET PAID OUT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A HARDSHIP ON, ON PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON THE SALARY, LIKE, LIKE ANY OF US DO AS WELL.
BUT THE IMPACT GOES BEYOND THE, THE, THE WORKERS AS WELL, THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
'CAUSE THAT'S EIGHT TO $9 BILLION IN THAT 43 DAYS THAT DIDN'T GET INJECTED INTO THE ECONOMY LIKE IT NORMALLY WOULD.
SO NOW WE'RE IMPACTING, UM, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS, THE BUSINESSES, THE GROCERY STORES, THE RESTAURANTS.
THE CLOTHING STORES, WHEREVER.
'CAUSE THE MONEY ISN'T THERE, DISPEN.
SO NOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALSO IMPACTED.
THEY'RE ALSO NOW GONNA STRUGGLE FINANCIALLY
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TO SOME DEGREE AS WELL.SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP ALL THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN PEOPLE COME AND ASK US FOR HELP, HOW CAN WE HELP OUT? YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MAINLY THE GOVERNMENT WORKERS, BUT IT'S, THE IMPACT IS LARGER THAN THAT.
BUT ALSO REMEMBER THAT THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION THAT WAS AGREED UPON HERE RECENTLY ONLY FUNDS MOST GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THROUGH THE END OF END OF JANUARY, SOME HANDFUL THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
AND I DON'T HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF CONFIDENCE THAT IN TWO AND A HALF MONTHS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BACK, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE BACK IN THE SAME SITUATIONS THAT WE JUST CAME THROUGH, UM, AS THEY LOOK TO FUND EITHER, EITHER CREATE A NEW BUDGET AND, AND, AND VOTE ON AND APPROVE IT OR FUND ANOTHER CONTINUAL RESOLUTION.
SO HOPEFULLY WE GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS, WE ALL CAN ENJOY OURSELVES, BUT SIT TIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OVER YET.
WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER ROCKY OF BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AFTER JANUARY WHEN WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS, THINGS WORK OUT.
I HAD ONE COMMENT OR ONE, UH, TOPIC FOR THE BOARD.
HAD A CHANCE LAST WEEK TO ATTEND, UM, VACO CONFERENCE.
VACO IS THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
IT'S A CHANCE FOR ALL 95 COUNTIES IN THE, IN VIRGINIA TO GET TOGETHER AND DIALOGUE, SHARE DISCUSSION, AND LISTEN TO VARIOUS TOPICS.
ONE IN PARTICULAR CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AND THAT WAS DISCUSSION ON DATA CENTERS.
IT WAS, UM, PRESENTED BY, UH, MIKE TURNER, WHO'S VICE-CHAIR OF THE BOARD FOR LOUDOUN COUNTY.
AND, UH, BILL MURRAY, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF, UM, UH, CORPORATE AFFAIRS AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR DOMINION ENERGY.
AND THEY JOINTLY PRESENTED, I JUST CAPTURED FOUR TE TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT, CONTINUED POWER CONSTRAINTS FOR MAJOR POWER CONSUMERS WITH A FIVE YEAR INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD OUT, LIKELY DATA CENTERS WILL BE POWER CONSTRAINED UNTIL AT LEAST 2029.
THERE JUST SIMPLY IS NOT POWER IN COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE EXISTING DATA CENTERS.
DEC, UM, UH, DOMINION ENERGY ESTIMATES A SEVEN YEAR WAIT FOR ALL NEW APPLICANTS.
THE GROWTH OF AI AND ITS ATTENDANT POWER DEMANDS WILL, WILL, UH, VASTLY COMPLICATE THAT PROBLEM AS WE'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED HERE IN VIRGINIA, THAT IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN THE INDUSTRY PUSH TO HAVE ONSITE MICROGRID.
SO WHAT'S A MICROGRID? WELL, IT'S A, IT'S AN INDEPENDENT POWER SUPPLY.
IN MANY CASES, IT'S, UH, GAS TURBINE GENERATORS.
UM, THE LIKELIHOOD OF, UH, TRANSITION, UH, WILL, WILL HAPPEN QUICKLY AND THE COUNTY BOARDS MUST BE ABLE TO ASSERT AND MAINTAIN MANAGERIAL OVERSIGHT, UH, THROUGH THE LOOSE USE OF LAND PLANNING AND NEW ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
AND THIS IS A SECTOR WIDE EVOLUTION.
AND THEN AS A TAKEAWAY, ORACLE AS AN EXAMPLE, IS BUILDING ITS NEW STARGATE DATA CENTER IN ABILENE, TEXAS, UTILIZING 1500 NATURAL GAS TURBINE GENERATORS FOR A 2.3 GIGAWATT POWER LOAD FOR ONE PLANT PIPELINE CAPACITY IN THE PENINSULA WOULD ACCOMMODATE ONE, POSSIBLY TWO GAS TURBINE GENERATORS, 1500 TO BUILD THE ONE IN ABILENE.
THIS IS JUST A MASSIVE ISSUE COMING OUR WAY.
AND, UH, AND NO END IN SIGHT OF THE POWER CONSTRAINTS IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THIS COM.
DOUG, DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UM, THE PROBLEM THAT THE DATA CENTER SUCK IT SO MUCH JUICE THAT WHAT IS CAUSING THE BILLS GO UP FOR RESIDENT? A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT TOPIC.
AND, AND BASICALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT LEGISLATION IN PLACE THAT AT LEAST MAKES NEW DATA CENTERS REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE TRANSMISSION AND, AND, UH, CORRIDORS REQUIRED, UH, TO SUPPORT THEM.
BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE OUT OF POWER AND FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR WAIT FOR ANY NEW MAJOR CONSUMER TO COME INTO THE STATE, THAT THAT'S MIND, THAT'S MIND BLOWING.
I WAS, THEY HAD THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD IN THE PAPER TODAY WAS ABOUT, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THING, UH, THE LOSS OF MONEY AND EVERYTHING MM-HMM
IS THAT PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THE POWER BILLS.
THAT WAS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE THING IS GO DOWN THE LIST.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA PAY MORTGAGE, YOU BUY FOOD, BUT YOU GOT A POWER BILL, YOU KNOW, THE HEATING AND ALL THAT FOR YOUR HOUSE.
BUT THE, THEY, UH, THERE WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WERE STRUGGLING TO PAY THE POWER BILL.
SO I'M THINKING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DATA CENTER MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.
WELL, WE WERE 12 CENTS A KILOWATT IN, UH, IN VIRGINIA THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
WE WERE 15 CENTS A KILOWATT LAST YEAR.
THEY'RE EXPECTING 16 CENTS THIS YEAR.
AND PART OF IT IS THE TRANSMISSION COSTS.
PART OF IT IS JUST WE'RE OUT OF POWER.
WAS THERE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION DURING, DURING THOSE MEETINGS, THOSE CONFERENCES ABOUT THE MANUFACTURERS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO REDUCE POWER CONSUMPTION, A MD INTEL, NVIDIA, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THE FIRST MANUFACTURER THAT CAN BRING HARDWARE TO THE
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MARKET THAT REDUCES POWER CONSUMPTION BY DOUBLE DIFFERENCE PERCENTAGE IS GONNA BE, IT GONNA MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.THERE'S A, MIKE TURNER WAS THE EXACT OFFICE.
HE SAID MOST OF THE DATA CENTERS THEY BUILT FIVE, 10 YEARS AGO ARE NOW TAKE ONE 10TH OF THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME THAT THEY TOOK, UH, AT THAT TIME.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S A TENFOLD INCREASE IN POWER BECAUSE THEY FILLED ALL THOSE CABINETS YEAH.
SO EVERY DATA CENTER THAT WE BUILT 10 YEARS AGO, THINKING THAT THIS WOULD BE THE CAP ON THEIR POWER HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD, GOOD ANSWERS FOR, UM, WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
AND WE, AND WE GOTTA WIN THAT BATTLE BECAUSE IF NOT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE AIR LUNCH IN THE AI SPACE, AND WE CANNOT, CANNOT AFFORD THAT.
WELL, HE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE EDUCATING OURSELVES ON THE ISSUE.
LOGGING IS CLEARLY THE, THE CENTER, THE CENTER OF DATA CENTERS FOR COMMONWEALTH.
AND, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING AND, AND THEY JUST SEE FROM ALL ANGLES, WHETHER IT BE TRANSMISSION CORRIDORS, WHETHER IT BE THE NEED FOR MORE POWER, WHETHER IT JUST BE THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGE THAT'S OCCURRING WITHIN THE DATA CENTERS.
IT'S JUST DRIVING MORE AND MORE DEMAND.
IT'S, IT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR US.
UM, WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE LATE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO RECESS FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, GUYS.
[4. Application No. UP-1059-25, Paws Pet Resort. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R25-158 to establish a commercial kennel with outside runs at 1205 Lightfoot Road (Route 646).]
WATER, PLEASE.AND NOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS THE APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR PAUSE PET RESORT.
MADISON, ARE YOU SPEAKING ON THIS? I SURE AM.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO THIS APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY PET PAWS PET, UH, PAUSE PET RESORT, LLC, UH, IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL KENNELS, UH, WITH OUTSIDE RUNS AT 1205 LIGHTFOOT ROAD.
THE SUBJECT SITE CONSISTS OF A 3.1 ACRE PARCEL THAT CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DETACHED HOME THAT HAS BEEN USED AS A PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO, A PHOTOGRAPHY STAGE IN THE BACKYARD, AND AN ACCESSORY BUILDING NEXT TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
THERE'S ALSO A PAVED DRIVEWAY WITH SOME PARKING PROVIDED FOR THE BUSINESS, BUT MOST OF THE PARCEL IS WOODED WITH DENSE VEGETATION.
THE SITE IS ZONED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND IS DESIGNATED EO IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE HOLIDAY INN CLUB VACATIONS WILLIAMSBURG RESORT AND AN UNDEVELOPED LOT NORTH AND EAST ARE PARCELS OF LAND OWNED BY THE WILLIAMSBURG POTTERY FACTORY, WHICH ARE MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED IN SOUTH ACROSS ALSTEIN PARKWAY.
ON EAST EMBO DRIVE IS THE CMAS WILLIAMSBURG FORD DEALERSHIP.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO DEVELOP A DOGGY DAYCARE WITH OUTSIDE PLAY AREAS.
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLE PICTURES FROM ONLINE.
THE PROJECT WILL INVOLVE REMODELING AND EXPANDING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE ON THE SKETCH PLAN.
THE EXPANSION OF THE BACK PORTION WILL BE 60 BY 65 FEET, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SPACE FOR INDOOR KENNELS.
AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FOUR SEPARATE PLAY AREAS.
EACH 400 SQUARE FEET IN FI IN SIZE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE EXPANSION.
TWO WILL BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND TWO WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
THE PLAY AREAS WILL ALL HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF AND ALL WASTE WILL BE BAGGED AND DISPOSED OF IN A DUMPSTER ON SITE.
AND DOORS WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING THAT ALLOWS ENTRY AND EXIT TO THE OUTDOOR PLAY AREAS.
THE PROPOSED BUSINESS WILL BE IN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WILL BE RENOVATED, THEREFORE MATCHING THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND DESIGNATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT HAS IN AN EXISTING LOCATION FOR THIS USE IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF AIRPORT ROAD AND MOTOWN ROAD, UH, WHERE THEY RENT A TWO STORY BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THEY WISH TO MOVE THEIR BUSINESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN THEIR FACILITY, CREATE A BETTER WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND OVERALL HAVE A MORE WELCOMING SPACE FOR THE DOGS ZONING.
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THIS USE REQUIRE THAT ALL ANIMALS BE KEPT IN PENS OR OTHER ENCLOSURES, UH,
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DESIGNED AND MAINTAINED FOR SECURE CONFINEMENT, THIS REQUIREMENT WILL BE MET.A SITE PLAN MUST ALSO BE SUBMITTED TO AND APPROVED BY THE DIVID DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL ENSURES THIS IS MET.
UM, PRIOR TO THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT MUST ALSO SUBMIT AN ANIMAL WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THEREFORE, MEETING THIS REQUIREMENT.
SO, PARKING STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL KENNELS, UM, INCLUDE ONE OFF STREET, UH, PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY 350 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA, UM, EXCLUDING KENNEL SPACE.
AND ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE 2,650 SQUARE FEET, EXCLUDING KENNEL SPACE.
THEREFORE, THE TOTAL PARKING REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICATION IS EIGHT SPACES.
THE SITE CURRENTLY HAS FIVE SPACES AND ONE HANDICAP SPACE FROM THE PREVIOUS PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO.
AND THEREFORE AN ADDITIONAL THREE SPACES NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT.
THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TOURIST CORRIDOR OR TCM OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING SIGN FOR THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS AT THIS LOCATION IS WITHIN A PUBLIC STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE TCM OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARDS.
SO A NEW FREESTANDING SIGN FOR THE PROPOSED BUSINESS MUST BE A GROUND MOUNTED MONUMENT STYLE SIGN, AND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL ENSURES THAT THIS IS MET, UM, AND ALSO IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AWAY.
SO LASTLY, FOR NOR NOISE MITIGATION, UM, ALTHOUGH THIS USE IS PERMITTED NEAR THE ADJACENT TIMESHARES, SINCE BOTH USES ARE COMMERCIAL, UM, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE FROM THE DOCKS.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THERE IS, UM, AN EXISTING 20 TO 25 FOOT WOODED AREA ON THE WESTERN SIDE PART OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE'S A PHOTO FACING NORTHWEST TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF TIMESHARES FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UM, SHOWING THAT MATURE VEGETATION.
THIS IS THE SIDE YARD WHERE, UH, TWO OUTDOOR AREAS ARE PROPOSED FACING NORTH TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
AND THIS IS THE SAME AREA, UH, BUT FACING SOUTH TOWARDS THE, UM, FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
AND THEN THIS IS FACING WEST TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THE TIMESHARES, UM, FROM BEHIND THE HOUSE WHERE THE OTHER TWO OUTDOOR AREAS ARE BEING PROPOSED.
SO THEREFORE, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT TYPE 25 TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, UM, ALONG THAT WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.
UM, SO THIS WOODED BUFFER WILL MITIGATE THAT NOISE.
ALSO A PROPOSED CONDITION, UM, OF APPROVAL REQUIRES THAT THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE DOG PLATE AREAS WILL BE OPAQUE AND EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO IN CONCLUSION, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO RELOCATE THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS TO THE PROPOSED SITE THAT WILL CREATE FOUR SEPARATE OUTSIDE PLAY AREAS, WHICH REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THIS APPLICATION PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE A VACANT COMMERCIAL SITE AND OFFER AN EXISTING BUSINESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO GROW AND THRIVE IN THE COUNTY.
THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ENSURE THAT THE ZONING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THE TCM OVERLAY STANDARDS ARE MET.
AND STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE DISRUPTION TO THE ADJACENT TIMESHARE GUESTS AS THE FENCING AND VEGETATED BUFFER, UM, WILL MITIGATE ANY NOISE PRODUCED FROM THE DOGS.
SO, DUE TO THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, AND CONCLUSIONS, AS NOTED, A STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 25 DASH 1 58.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, IS ALSO HERE AS WELL.
I GOT A COUPLE KIND OF SERIOUS QUESTIONS HERE.
SO YOU TALK ABOUT A TYPE 2025 BUFFER.
YOU DIDN'T EXPLAIN TO US WHAT A TYPE 25 DOES.
YOU JUST LOOK AT IT SHOWED US A PICTURE, AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THAT'S A TYPE 25.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE MY ASSUMPTION'S CORRECT.
NOW, YOU ALSO TO, YOU SAID, MADE A STATEMENT THAT THIS WILL MITIGATE THE NOISE FROM BARKING DOGS.
NOW HAVING GONE DOWN THIS ROAD WITH KENNELS AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY INPUT FROM WHAT THE NEIGHBORS MIGHT HAVE SAID ABOUT, ABOUT THIS OPERATION.
SO I'M KIND OF LEADING INTO THIS QUESTION.
THE VO ENGINEERS FOR ROY ROAD NOISE.
YOU SEE A BARRIER PUT UP A WALL.
THE NOISE, IT TAKES 200 FEET OF, OF SOLID WOOD FOREST TO BLOCK THE NOISE.
SO WHAT'S THE DISTANCE HERE? WE, I DON'T THINK WE GOT 200 FEET BETWEEN THE DOGS AND THE NEIGHBORS.
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SO LET ME BACK UP TO, AND THEN WHAT YOU BA WHAT DO YOU BASE THAT NOISE STATEMENT ON? YEAH, OF COURSE.LEMME PULL UP THE SKETCH PLAN.
UM, SO WE CAN HAVE A VISUAL HERE, A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A VISUAL.
UM, SO THIS IS THE OLD SITE PLAN, UM, FROM WHEN THE PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO WAS BUILT, UM, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE VERY FAR, WELL MY LEFT, UM, THAT DASH AND SOLID LINE, THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN THAT'S ABOUT BETWEEN THE CURRENT TREE LINE, UM, THAT IS LABELED HERE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE IS 25 FEET.
AND THEN FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE TO THE TIMESHARES, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ABOUT 25 FEET.
UM, SO TOTAL YOU'RE HAVING ABOUT LIKE 50 FEET, UM, BETWEEN WHERE THE DOGS WILL BE PLAYING OUTSIDE, WHERE THE FENCE WILL BE, UM, TO WHERE THE TIMESHARES ARE.
AND USUALLY IN THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT, WE DON'T REQUIRE A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER 'CAUSE IT'S A, THE SAME USE.
SO THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, UM, IS THERE TO USUALLY DISTINGUISH, UM, AND HAVE MITIGATION BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
SO WE'RE ADDING THIS ONE ON, UM, TO ACCOUNT FOR THE NOISE MITIGATION.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, YOU'RE COUNTING FROM THE, FROM THE, THE PLAYGROUND AREA FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS. YES.
THAT'S ON YOUR LEFT TO THE PA TO THE LINE IS 25 FEET.
AND THEN YOU'RE COUNTING THAT ANOTHER 25 FEET FROM THAT LINE TO THE HOUSES.
UM, SO WHEN WE, OR FOR WHATEVER, WHATEVER BUILDINGS ARE DOWN THERE.
SO WE DON'T ACCOUNT FOR LIKE THE OTHER, THE OTHER SIDE OF PROPERTY, UM, BECAUSE WE ONLY WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROPERTY LINE HERE TO MAKE THOSE CALCULATIONS.
BUT WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE DISTANCE THAT THE TIMESHARES ARE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND WE ALSO DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY INPUT FROM THE TIMESHARES EITHER.
WE, WE, WE ASKED THE OWNERS, UH, WE SENT THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING LETTERS, UM, FOR COMMENT MM-HMM
WELL, SO, SO I GUESS, UH, ALL RIGHT.
I KNOW IN, IN MY DISTRICT WE HAVE, UM, A KENNEL BY THAT'S, UH, OPERATED BY A VET.
AND IT WAS A BIG BREW HAHA, OVER THAT.
AND WE HAD TO CREATE A BERM BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE EVEN FURTHER AWAY.
AND THEY HAD, BECAUSE THE, THE NOISE, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THE NOISE WOULD TRAVEL OVER THE ROAD TO THE HOUSE, WHICH WERE 50 FEET BACK.
SO THE NOISE, THE NOISE ISSUE HERE IS REALLY UNCERTAIN.
I'M, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT IF THE NEIGHBOR WAS ASKED AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND, THAT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE SAID THAT THEY HAVE A WASTE DISPOSAL PLAN.
UM, IS THIS OPERATED, THIS AREA, IS IT OPERATED OFF OF SEWER OR IS IT OPERATED OFF OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS? UM, IT IS OPERATING OFF OF PRIVATE WELL AND PRIVATE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
UM, I ALSO KNOW THE APPLICANT IS BETTER, UM, TO SPEAK ON THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN 'CAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN SUBMITTED YET.
THAT'S THE HEART OF THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, IF YOU WANNA HEAR FROM THE
BUT THE URINE AND STUFF THAT COMES LIKE THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY.
AND THIS IS HAVING, YOU'RE TALKING TO A GUY THAT WAS, THAT WAS A FARMER IN MY YOUNGER AGE.
AND LEMME TELL YOU WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU WERE RAISING FARM ANIMALS.
SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IS WE USED TO HAVE A RECEPTIVE POND, UH, FOR THAT, WHERE YOU WASH THINGS OUT THE, INSTEAD OF JUST WASHING IT OUT AND LET IT FLOW ACROSS YOUR PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY WASHED IT TO A POINT AND IT WENT INTO A POND.
AND THEN THE POND WAS SCUM OVER.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT YOU COULD SEE IT AND IT REALLY MITIGATED THE SMELL.
UM, EXCUSE ME, TOM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO EVENTUALLY YOUR APPLICANT? WELL, EVENTUALLY WHEN, WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH HER, THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT I'M SURE IS HERE CAN ANSWER.
SO LET, I, I DON'T WANT HER TO BE DOING UP AND DOWN HERE, SO.
WOULD THE APPLICANT CARRIER ADDRESS THIS QUESTION? I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DIDN'T NEED TO TALK RIGHT NOW TO THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MOTION FURTHER.
I GUESS YOU CAN ANSWER QUESTION KELLY 2 49.
RACE FIELD DRIVE TO VIRGINIA, MAGGIE, MASTERS 4,000 BOCK ROAD, VILLE, VIRGINIA THOMAS LUS
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2 49 RAYFIELD DRIVE UNTIL ANDO, VIRGINIA.UM, CURRENTLY WE DO, WE DO HOSE THE PLACES DOWN FOR THE, UM, THE URINE.
UM, WE ARE HAVING, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTED AND WE, THEY ARE DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR US.
SO IT MAY BE A POND LIKE THAT, WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT THEY ARE WORKING OUT A PLAN FOR THE WASTE.
WELL, I JUST, I GUESS MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU DON'T MANAGE IT, I MEAN, IT'S OKAY FOR, FOR ABOUT SIX, SEVEN MONTHS MAYBE A YEAR.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT JUST COATS AND YOU JUST, YOU, I MEAN, IT, IT, THE SALTS AND ALL THAT, IT DOESN'T JUST GO AWAY.
IT, IT GETS, YEAH, IT GETS, UH, BASICALLY IT GETS TOXIC AND IT'S, UH, IT CAN BE A PROBLEM.
WE ALSO SANITIZE THE YARDS EVERY DAY TOO.
WITH WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE? A KENNEL SANITIZER THAT IS USED FOR COMMERCIAL SANITIZER.
I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM MADISON.
DOUG, YOUR, I HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS ACTUALLY.
UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL START ON, I'LL START ON THE, UH, SEWER AND WATER DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT CAME UP AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED WAS WHY WITH THE, UM, CERTAINLY WITH THE WATER PRESENT ALONG LIGHTFOOT ROAD, IT GOES RIGHT TO THE, UH, THE WATER TOWER THAT'S, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WE PUT IN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, WE HAVE WATER LINES ALONG THERE AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE SEWER RIGHT UP TO THE TIMESHARE NEXT DOOR.
UH, WHY WOULDN'T WE BE TYING OR REQUIRING THIS TO BE TIED INTO SEWER AND WATER? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
I'M GOING TO REFER TO, UH, MR. ANDERSON TO ANSWER THAT.
I KNOW IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR ROB TO ANSWER THIS ONE.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.
THE CODE DOES REQUIRE YOU TO HOOK UP IF YOU'RE A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM SEWER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE HOW FAR IT IS.
AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY, ANY SORT OF GRAVITY VERSUS, UH, UM, GRINDER PUMP.
SO THIS IS ALL FLAT FARM FIELD.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO GRINDER PUMP REQUIRED.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW FAR IS THE SEWER.
I, I, I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS A PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOW UP.
SO I'M SURPRISED NOT TO SEE IT HERE.
SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE BRINGING IT.
I, I AM, I'M GONNA EVENTUALLY TABLE THIS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS TO ASK.
UM, WHEN I WENT ONLINE AND LOOKED AT THE GIS PROPERTY SEARCH, IT SAID THE BUILDING WAS 2,336 SQUARE FEET.
UM, BUT THEN I SEE REFERENCE HERE OF A 3,900 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING OF WHICH 2,600 IS FOR THE KENNELS.
HOW, HOW HAVE YOU, HOW HAS IT GROWN FROM 2300 TO 39? UM, I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSAL THAT, UM, THEY'RE PUT, THEY'RE PUTTING THE EXPANSION IN, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THERE.
UM, THE EXPANSION IS, HOLD ON, LET ME SEE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE CURRENT BUILDING AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE EXPANSION IS GONNA GO TO 60 BY 60.
IS THAT, IS THAT BUILDING THE CONCRETE, UM, AROUND THE EXISTING TWO STORY FRAME RESIDENCE, UM, IS JUST KINDA LIKE A CONCRETE SIDEWALK ALONGSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, I COULD GO TO SOME OF THE SITE VISIT PICTURES, UM, TOO, IF YOU'D LIKE.
SO, WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THAT ABU, IS THAT A BUILDING I NEED? SO THIS YELLOW THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE EXISTING TWO STORY AND THEY'RE GONNA ADD, OOPS, WRONG DIRECTION.
THEY'RE ADDING THAT YELLOW SQUARE ON AND THAT IS BUILDING EXPANDING IT.
IT'S IT IS GONNA BE TWO STORY ALSOS CONCRETE THERE NOW.
NO, IT'S GONNA BE A ONE STORY ADDITION TO THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GETTING TO 3,900.
THAT'S HOW THEY'RE EXPANDING IT.
AND WHAT IS THE SIZE? YOU SAID 2,600 SQUARE FEET IS THE KENNEL AREA? RIGHT.
SO THAT BACK AREA IS GONNA BE MAINLY THEIR KENNEL AREA.
AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING CALCULATION DOESN'T COUNT KENNELS FOR THESE KINDS OF USES.
THAT'S WHY MADISON NOTED THAT WE WERE TAKING THAT.
THE ONLY PART THAT WE'RE CALCULATING FOR THE PARKING IS THE 2,600.
AND THEN THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE KENNELS? 'CAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF KENNELS TO PUT INTO.
THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT IN, BUT THEY COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE ARE, COME TO THE MIC PLEASE.
AND WE ARE PLANNING, UM, FROM 62 TO A HUNDRED KENNELS.
AND THEN JUST JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR WATER SEWER QUESTION.
SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS THAT THEY
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HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR THIS.AND SO THAT WILL BE NOTED DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS IF THEY HAVE TO HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER.
WHEN PUBLIC UTILITIES REVIEWS THAT, THEY WILL LET US KNOW IF IT HAS TO BE HOOKED UP OR NOT.
UM, SO I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE DIDN'T ADDRESS IT IN THE STANFORD BOARD.
'CAUSE DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, ALL OF THAT COMES OUT.
ARE THEY GONNA DO GROOMING THERE? YEAH, THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
THAT'LL HAVE TO BE A QUESTION FOR THEM.
MOST KENNELS HAVE SOME GROOMING SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, GIVING THE DOG A BATH OR NAIL CLIPPING, ET CETERA.
ANY OF THOSE SERVICES AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, CURRENTLY WE OFFER BATHS, BUT WE DON'T DO THEM A LOT.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY GROOMING IN HERE, BUT THERE IS BATHS.
SEE, SEE, I'M BACK TO, THERE'S ENOUGH WATER USE AND POTENTIAL SEWER USE HERE THAT I'D MUCH PREFER TO SEE THIS ON A SEWER SYSTEM.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DOES THIS NOT COME TO PLANNING? THE PLANNING? YEAH.
I'M JUST, UM, ARE YOU FINISHED FOR NOW?
FRANCIS, UH, GROOM OR BOARDING IN, IN WILLIAMSBURG.
THAT'S A, IT'S ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT FLOORING, GROUND FLOOR AND 60 KENNELS.
AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HALF THAT SIZE AND A HUNDRED KENNELS.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOT ME CONCERNED.
MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE A DOG, BUT MY SIZE WITH THE ANIMALS THAT THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T SEE THAT MEANS THAT'S, THAT'S FINE FOR IF YOU'RE HOLDING THEM FOR JUST A PERIOD OF TIME.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE KEEPING 'EM FOR DAYS, YOU COULD HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 'EM RUN.
YOU, YOU'RE OUTRUNNING THE ANIMAL A LITTLE BIT.
IS THAT THE KIND OF PROCESS YOU, YOU'RE WORKING HERE? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T, OKAY.
SO WHEN PEOPLE, YOUR CUSTOMER COMES OUT WITH THE DOG, I ASSUME YOU'RE A CUSTOMER.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE DOGS FROM CUSTOMERS.
YOU'RE NOT RAISING THE DOGS TO SELL? NO.
SO THE CUSTOMER COMES IN AND BRINGS DOG.
YOU GONNA GIVE 'EM AN OPTION FOR PLAYTIME AND, AND FOR WALKING AND STUFF LIKE THAT? NO.
CURRENTLY WE TAKE THE DOGS OUT AT LEAST SIX TIMES A DAY.
AND THEY ALL ARE WALKED OUT ON, ON A LEASH AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE LET TO DO THEIR BUSINESS AND PLAY.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HORSES AND PIGS HERE.
BUT THE THING IS, DOGS PEE ALL OVER EVERYTHING.
AND, AND I, I'M JUST THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A PART THAT YOU GOTTA WASH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BATHE AN ANIMAL, YOU'RE GONNA BE USING MORE WATER, AND YOU'RE ON A SEP, YOU'RE ON A SEWER SYSTEM, A SEPTIC SYSTEM, WHICH CAN EXCEED YOU CAN, YOU CAN, IF YOU DO MANY, YOU'RE GONNA EXCEED YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TANK.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO MORE PUMP OUTS.
AND SO THESE THINGS ARE, THESE ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS HERE.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE REALLY ANSWERED, BUT I, I THINK THEY'RE WAITING ON FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE SEPTIC PEOPLE.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE STARTED IT.
WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY YET.
IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
ARE YOU BUYING THE PROPERTY? YES.
I THOUGHT IT WAS YOURS ALREADY.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO, TOO MUCH MONEY UNTIL WE GET APPROVAL.
SO WHY DID YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD SO EARLY? I'M SORRY.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THEY DON'T WANNA BUY THE PROPERTY.
WELL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE PERMIT.
I KEEP THINKING IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, I, I THINK, ARE YOU FINISHED? I THINK I'LL OPEN YOU.
OH, YOU WANT ANOTHER QUESTION? GO FOR IT.
I GOT MOST OF MY ANSWER, BUT ONE QUICK QUESTION, JUST TO VERIFY OR CLARIFY, THE OUTDOOR RUNS, THAT'S JUST FOR INTERMITTENT EXERCISE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA KENNEL DOGS OUTSIDE, RIGHT? NO, NO, SIR.
ALL THE, ALL THE DOGS KENNEL INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND THEY'RE NOTRE NOT OUTSIDE.
SO JUST QUICK, HOW MANY ANIMALS WOULD YOU POSSIBLY HAVE AT ONE TIME? WE, SORRY.
UM, WE DON'T REALLY PLAN TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT FULL UNLESS IT IS A HOLIDAY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE WE'RE MAXED OUT AT WHERE WE ARE AND IT'S ABOUT 45 TO 50 KENNELS WHERE WE ARE.
AND LIKE, WE'RE FULL FOR CHRISTMAS ALREADY.
SO THE ONLY TIME THAT WE GET VERY FULL IS THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS BREAKS.
AND THAT'S FOR ABOUT A WEEK'S TIME.
SO THE DAYCARE, THEY COME AND GO EVERY DAY.
SO THAT WILL FILL, WE'RE TURNING AWAY DAYCARE CONSTANTLY.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP THEM IN THERE WITH THE BORDERS.
SO THE DAYCARE WILL TAKE UP HALF OF THAT AND THEY'RE GOING HOME EVERY DAY.
SO I'M CURIOUS, HOW DO YOU CLEAN THE ASTROTURF? WE SPRAY IT DOWN WITH DISINFECT HOSE.
WE HOSE IT DOWN AND THEN WE SPRAY IT WITH A DISINFECTANT THAT STAYS ON THERE.
SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF LIKE, TOM, HOW DOES THAT URINE WORK OVER TIME AND,
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AND IS SEEPING IN THE GROUND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO COLLECT THAT FROM GOING DOWN.WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE WHERE WE ARE.
AND THE KENNEL HAS, THE YARD HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY HAVE, IT'S BASICALLY A SAND PIT UNDERNEATH.
IT'S A VERY THICK LAYER OF LIKE SAND AND ROCK UNDERNEATH THAT TURF THAT IS ESTABLISHED UNDERNEATH.
SO IT'S NOT, IT GETS WASHED THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THAT.
IT'S NOT DIRECTLY INTO THE GROUND NECESSARILY.
AND WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE A SANITATION SYSTEM THAT SANITIZES THAT TURF REGULARLY.
I, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND NOW WHAT WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I'LL MOVE.
I, I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE SHOULD TABLE THIS UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER ON THE SEPTIC AND, UH, OR WHETHER SEWER AND WATER CAN BE PROVIDED FOR THIS PROJECT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I THINK IT HAS, THEY THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UH, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE PART I WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN THE SEPTIC OR SEWER SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE ON THE SURFACE.
UM, AND, AND MY CONCERN WAS THAT THAT'S 50, YOU KNOW, SAY AS, SAY IF YOU'RE DOING 50 DOGS A DAY, OKAY, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF POOP.
AND A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF FECAL MATERIAL OF, OF SOME TYPE.
AND UH, AND, UH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR, OUR AGRICULTURE STANDARDS FOR ANIMALS, OKAY.
MANY OF 'EM ARE HUNDREDS OF FEET AWAY FROM HOMES.
NOW, ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A, I GOT A VET THAT'S GOT A RUN, BUT HE'S NOT NET RIGHT UP.
HE HAS IT RIGHT UP BEHIND AND THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY A, A TRAILER PARK RIGHT BEHIND HIM.
AND I'M NOT HEARING ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK HE KEEPS 50 DOGS AT A TIME IN HIS, IN HIS VET.
AND LIKE, LIKE THE, UH, LADY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOLIDAYS ARE BIG THE BIG TIME WHEN THEY JAM 'EM UP IN THERE.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS, BY TABLING IT, WE'RE GONNA ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY THERE, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME BACK WITH SOME SORT OF STIPULATION ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ON THE SEWER.
THAT PART AND, AND YOU'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE, THE WASTE, THE WASTE, UH, MANAGEMENT PLAN.
SO I, I DID LOOK UP THE ORDINANCE.
THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU, WHEN THE COUNTY EXTENDS WATER SEWER LINES, YOU CAN CONNECT FOR A LOWER FEE.
IF YOU DON'T CONNECT AND COME BACK LATER, YOU HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER FEE.
SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CONNECT.
AND SO IF THEY HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM, IT WILL HAVE TO MEET PUBLIC HEALTH STANDARDS.
AND SO THOSE THINGS WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
I GUESS IF THEY'RE DOING WASHING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT ON IF THEIR DRAIN FIELDS AND SO FORTH ARE ADEQUATE.
AS FAR AS THE HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT, YES.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN IN A PLAN THAT SHOWS HOW THEY PLAN TO ADDRESS THE, THE DOG THINGS, THE THINGS THAT COME OUTTA DOGS.
THE POOP AND THE URINE, UM, POOP.
PLEASE TIP YOUR WAITRESSES TONIGHT.
UM, WE WILL, THERE WILL BE A PLAN AND THERE WILL, THEY WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AND IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE INSPECTED ON A FREQUENT BASIS WHEN WE'RE VISITING THE SITE FOR OUR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
THE QUESTION I'D HAVE THOUGH IS THE SEPTIC SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED FOR A STANDALONE HOME.
AND NOW THIS IS 50 PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS HOME.
AND THE, THE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL EVALUATE THAT WHEN THEY SEE THIS COME THROUGH.
'CAUSE IT'LL COME THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS'.
SO THEY WILL BE A REVIEWER ON THAT AND THEY WILL HAVE TO GET A SIGN OFF FROM PUBLIC HEALTH TO ESTABLISH THE SEPTIC SYSTEM IN WHATEVER STATE THEY'RE GONNA BE.
IT COULD BE A FAIRLY LARGE EXPANSION OF THIS SEPTIC IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE YES OR NO ON THAT.
THIS IS A SPECIAL, UH, USE PERMIT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL STEPS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE BUSINESS UP AND RUNNING.
THEY STILL HAVE TO ONCE, IF YOU WERE TO GIVE THEM
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APPROVAL, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS AND THEN BUILDING INSPECTION, BUILDING REVIEW AND ALL THOSE THINGS.AND PART OF THAT IS GONNA BE AN ASSESSMENT ON ONE, WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT SEPTIC SYSTEM CAN ACCOMMODATE THE BUSINESS THERE.
AND IF NOT, THEN IT'LL BE GIVEN DIRECTION ON.
COST THIS MUCH MONEY, OR YOU'LL TIE INTO SEWER, IT'LL COST THIS MUCH MONEY.
THEY'LL DO A BUSINESS EVALUATION MM-HMM
WHETHER THAT'S FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE OR NOT, TO DECIDE WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE NOT MOVE, NOBODY'S SETTING UP A KENNEL OF THAT CAPACITY AT THAT PROPERTY UNTIL THE WASTE MANAGEMENT IS ADDRESSED, DEFINED AND AGREED UPON.
THAT IS, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT, MR. RUM.
SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS ACTUALLY NOT THE WASTE, IT'S THE NOISE.
IT'S THE NOISE THAT, THAT WE, ONCE WE STICK, ONCE WE PROVE THIS THING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHEN DOUG'S GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT.
IF IT, IF THAT, IF THAT NOISE IS, IF MEAN I'VE BEEN AROUND 50 DOGS.
I MEAN, I, I MEAN, ONE OR TWO DOGS SOMETIMES COULD BE LOUD ENOUGH.
UM, AND DOGS ARE NOT QUIET AND THEY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE OUT PLAYING, THEY'RE GONNA BE BARKING.
SO I I, YOU KNOW HOW MANY DOGS YOU GONNA RUN OUT THERE AT ONE TIME? ALL OF THEM.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF DOGS IN THE KENNELS DURING THE DAY AND THEY WALK 'EM OUT.
IF THEY'RE IN THE KENNEL, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
YOU STILL HEAR 'EM, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
WELL, THEY'RE INSIDE, OUTSIDE.
WELL, INSIDE THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING THEN WHAT? ALL OF THEM, ALL THE KENNELS ARE IN THE BUILDING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PLAY AREA.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA WALK THOSE OUT.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
ALL THE KENNELS ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
WHAT ABOUT THE PLAY AREA? THE PLAY AREA, THE PLAY AREAS ARE OUTSIDE.
HOW MANY DOGS YOU HAVE AT THAT TIME? NOT ALL OF THE DOGS WILL BE GOING ALL, ALL OUT AT ONCE.
THEY RUN, NOT ALL OF THE DOGS GO OUT AT ONCE.
WELL OF COURSE THERE'S 50 DOGS.
WE TAKE 'EM OUT AND SHIFT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO SUPERVISED BY THE STAFF WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE SEE, I'VE SEEN PLACES WHERE THEY JUST LET ALL THE DOGS OUT AND THE DOGS RUN AROUND OUT IN THE PLAY AREAS ALL TOGETHER.
AND WE DON'T, WE, WE S SEGREGATE DIFFERENT SIZE DOGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND SO, UM, GENERALLY AT THE MOST, MAYBE HALF OF THOSE DOGS MIGHT BE OUT OUTSIDE AT ONE TIME.
I, I THINK I READ IN THE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT DOGS THAT ARE KENNELED ARE BROUGHT OUT FOR RUN INDIVIDUALLY.
DOGS ARE THERE FOR DAYCARE ARE BROUGHT OUT IN GROUPS.
THEY, THAT ALSO LIMITS HOW MANY DOGS YOU WOULD HAVE OUTSIDE AT A GIVEN TIME.
AND, AND WHAT TIMEFRAMES ARE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE THEM OUTSIDE? I NOT 24 SEVENS AS A NO SIR.
NONE OF THE DOGS GO OUTSIDE AFTER ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.
WHAT TIME DO YOU GET STARTED? UH, FIRST.
SO THEY GET THERE AT SIX? YEAH.
THEY START THE DOG, THE DAYCARE DOGS START SHOWING UP AT SIX, SIX O'CLOCK.
GENERALLY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY COME IN THE DOOR, THE FIRST THING WE DO IS TAKE 'EM OUTSIDE AND RUN 'EM AROUND.
AND THEN WE GO PUT 'EM INSIDE.
BUT THINKING ABOUT THE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS CASE, OR OR TIMES SHERIFF FOLKS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, WHO ARE PARTICULARLY, WHO ARE PARTICULARLY DON'T HANG OUT, HANG OUT THERE ALL DAY.
THEY'RE OUT DOING, DOING STUFF.
SO, UH, THERE'S PROBABLY A MINIMAL EXPOSURE TO EXACTLY THE ONLY, THE ONLY, ONLY THE ONLY REASON I WOULD SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE WE SENT THE LETTER AND WE GOT NO REPLY.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHEN WE DO THAT AND THERE'S NO REPLY, I GOT NO FEEDBACK.
I JUST KIND OF GO ON MY OWN JUDGMENT.
BUT IT'S JUST, YOU, YOU HEARD THE CONCERNS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO ADD MORE PLANNING TO THIS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER TYPE 30 OR SOMETHING YEAH, GO FOR IT.
BUT I MEAN IT'S, UH, BUT THE THING IS YOU HEARD OUR CONCERNS.
SO UNLESS YOU WANT US TO HAVE TO DO A BATTLE LATER WITH THE TIMESHARE PEOPLE, THEN YOU JUST BETTER KIND OF MAKE SURE WE CUT.
WE KIND OF AS BEST WE CAN WITHIN THE GUIDELINES AND RULES.
IN FAIRNESS THOUGH, THERE'S ONLY FOUR TIMESHARES ALONG THAT EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
ALL THE REST ARE LOCATED FURTHER BACK.
SO I SEE ANOTHER REASON NOT TO, NOT TO TURN IT DOWN.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A STATEMENT.
UH, WE'RE AT THE POINT, HAVE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ENOUGH? ARE WE READY TO VOTE? ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROHN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION 25 DASH 1 58 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
[5. Ban on the Use of Polystyrene Food Service Containers. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance Number 25-28 to add Chapter 12, Article III of the Code of the County of York to implement Virginia Code Section 10.1-1424.3, prohibiting the use of polystyrene food service containers by vendors of prepared foods.]
MUCH.NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
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NUMBER FIVE.BAN ON THE USE OF POLYSTYRENE FOOD SERVICE CONTAINERS.
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN THIS EVENING.
UH, BACK IN 2021, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED A, UH, HOUSE BILL TO ENACT A, UH, A BAN ON POLY SCHEME CONTAINERS.
AND, AND, AND THE, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, GOES IN TWO SEPARATE PHASES.
THE FIRST PHASE WAS JULY OF 2025, WHICH ENACTED THE BAN ON, UM, FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAD MORE THAN 20 LOCATIONS IN THE STATE.
SO YOU THINK OF THE CHICK-FIL-AS AND, AND THE LARGER ONES.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA ENACTS THE BAND ON JULY OF 26 WITH ALL THE SEPARATE SMALLER FOOD, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO IN THE STATE CODE, DEQ DIDN'T PROVIDE MUCH GUIDANCE AS, AS USUAL, UH, ABOUT IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM AND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UM, THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU MIRRORS THE STATE CODE AND DELEGATES THE AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, TO ADMINISTER THE THE PROGRAM.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE GOOD OFFICES OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THROUGH H-R-P-D-C AND HR GREEN HAVE DONE SOME OUTREACH, UM, IN THE PAST.
AND WE ARE PLANNING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT OUTREACH.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FILE COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS, UM, THE, UH, YOU CAN'T APPLY FOR A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP MM-HMM
AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME THE FINE, IT WOULD BE $50 PER DAY THAT YOU USED THE POLYSTYRENE.
UM, ANOTHER LITTLE BIT OF UNIQUE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS IT'S, UH, IT GOES TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.
IF, IF THE INFRACTION IS FOUND BY A COUNTY STAFF MEMBER, THE COFFERS WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY TREASURY.
IF SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY IS TARGETED BY A STATE PERSON AND THEY FOLLOW IT UP IN CIRCUIT COURT, THEN THE COFFERS WOULD GO TO THE STATE TREASURY.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S A SHORT BASIC CODE OR ORDINANCE THAT MIRRORS THE STATE CODE.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD GET IT ANY EASIER THAN THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE THE QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT SURE MR. KRIEGER OR MR. HILL.
I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IF IT'S ALREADY IN THE STATE CODE, WHY IS, WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN THE COUNTY CODE? IS THAT SO THAT WE CAN COLLECT REVENUE? SHOULD IT BE FOUND IN VIOLATION FROM A COUNTY EMPLOYEE? WHAT, WHY, WHY ARE WE BEING REDUNDANT HERE? THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING IT IN THE COUNTY CODE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN PROVISIONING.
PRIMARILY WHEN A BUSINESS COMES TO US AND SAYS WE WANT AN EXEMPTION, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN OUR CODE HOW WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT DOING THAT.
UM, AND ALSO IT, IT ALLOWS, SO THE LOCAL BOARDS AND THE LOCAL, THE LOCALITIES ARE PROVIDED WITH THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT THESE EXEMPTIONS.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GUIDANCE, THERE'S NO ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN PUBLISHED AS TO WHAT THAT GOES INTO EXCEPT WHAT'S SET FORTH IN THE CODE, WHICH WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR LOCAL ONES.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, OUR LOCALITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT THEM BASED UPON HOW WE VIEW THE MATTER.
SO, SO WE, WE CAN PROVIDE AN EX AN EXEMPTION ON OUR ORDINANCE.
WE CAN'T PROVIDE AN EXEMPTION AGAINST STATE CODE.
WE CAN, UM, BUT AS IT STANDS NOW IN THE ABSENCE OF, OF THIS PROVISION, SO EVEN IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THE, THE BAN STILL EXISTS, RIGHT? SO THE ISSUE IS IF SOMEBODY FILES A COMPLAINT WITH US, WHAT DO WE DO? AND STATE CODE ONLY SAYS THAT LOCALITIES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THE EXEMPTIONS.
THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THAT DEALS WITH THE EXEMPTIONS.
SO IF SOMEBODY SAYS, I GOT CITED FOR THIS, OR I HAVE A PROBLEM, I WANT AN EXEMPTION, AND THEY COME TO US, WHAT DO WE DO? AND SO, SO THERE'S NO EXEMPTION PROCESS AT THE STATE LEVEL? JUST IT'S CORRECT.
IT'S ONLY A LOCAL, IT'S ONLY A LOCAL PROCESS.
NOT SURE YOU'VE ASKED, ASKED THIS TO, BUT, UM, HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS? DO WE HAVE A NEW STYROFOAM POLICE FORCE TO GO OUT THERE AND CHECK? I MEAN, WHAT DO WE, SO, NO, WE'RE, THE DEQ DIDN'T
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GIVE ANY, UM, GUIDANCE FOR THAT.SO OURS IS GOING TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN IF, IF WE GET A COMPLAINT, UM, AND THEN WE'RE JUST PROACTIVELY GONNA GONNA DO OUTREACH, HEY, YOU KNOW, STATE CODE LAWS CHANGING IN 2026, HERE'S SOME RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, FOR PAPER SUPPLIERS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE WERE GONNA GO WITH IT.
AND THE PENALTY IS A $50 FINE FOR EACH DAY, THAT THEY'RE FINE OUTTA COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS ABOUT $18,000 IN CHANGE IF YOU'RE BUSTED 365 DAYS ACROSS THE YEAR, WHICH FOR BIG ESTABLISHMENT FOOD CHAIN, THAT'S A ROUNDING ERROR IN THEIR ANNUAL INCOME.
SO SOME MAY CHOOSE TO JUST PAY THE FINE IF IT'S, IF THEY THINK THEIR CUSTOMERS WILL LIKE THE, THE CURRENT OPTION BETTER.
AND THE MOM AND POP STORES CAN'T AFFORD THAT, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? STEVEN? YOU KNOW, THE DOG'S GONNA BE TRAINED TO SNIFF THIS OUT.
WELL, 32% OF THE POLYSTYRENE IN THE WORLD IS EXPORTED FROM CHINA.
NOBODY, NOBODY LOCALLY MAKES IT ANYMORE.
LINED ELVIS CELL AND DOW WERE THE TWO PRIMARY STYRENE PRODUCERS IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND BOTH OF THEM HAVE RA HAVE, HAVE CLOSED DOWN MOST OF THAT PRODUCTION.
I GET, I GET WHY WE DON'T WANT DOWN LAND QUESTION LANDFILL.
WAS THAT YOUR STATEMENT? THAT'S A STATEMENT.
WELL, IT'S SUPPORTING WHY WE SHOULD BAN.
LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I HAVE NOBODY WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? I'D LOVE TO.
WOULD YOU CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS SECOND? NO, NO, NO.
MOVE FIRST NOW I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA ASK YOU, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD MOVE OR ORDINANCE? UH, I THINK IT'S TWENTY FIVE, TWENTY EIGHT, ISN'T IT? ROLL CALL PLEASE.
WELL, I, I'LL JUST, I, I I AGREE.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT THIS IN OUR LANDFILL ANYMORE.
IT JUST, THIS SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, THIS IS JUST CHECKING BOXES OFF AND WE'RE NOT REALLY YES, IT IS ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING OF MEANING MEANINGFUL, BUT WHATEVER.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE 25 DASH 28 TO IMPLEMENT A NUDE CODE SECTION AS SUBMITTED.
[6. Board of Equalization Jurisdiction Change. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance 25-27 amending Chapter 21, Article 1.5 of the York County Code to require that owners of real property make application to appeal assessments to the York County Board of Equalization before filing an appeal of that assessment in Circuit Court]
NOW WE'VE GOT UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND I'M GONNA CALL ON OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE ITEM.UM, SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MATTER? I SENT A MEMO TO THE BOARD INDICATING, UM, THE FOLLOW UPS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING.
THE FIRST WAS, CAN WE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN, UH, COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF THE PROCEDURAL PROTECTIONS WE PROVIDE? AND I, MY ANSWER WAS I, THAT WE CANNOT, I DID NOT BELIEVE WE COULD.
AND THE SECOND ONE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT CHANGING THE DEADLINES, WHICH WE, WE CAN DO, UH, ALTHOUGH THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PRESENT SOME PROBLEMS FOR THE COUNTY AND CONDUCTING ITS BUSINESS IF THE DEADLINES GET PUSHED BACK TOO FAR INTO THE BUDGET SEASON OR LATER IN THE YEAR.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION WAS AS I STATED THAT WE, UM, THAT YOU TABLE THIS MATTER FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE ALONG WITH BROADER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND ASSESSMENTS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IN PART BECAUSE TIMING WOULDN'T BE THE BEST TIME GIVEN WE GOT ASSESSMENTS COMING UP THAT COULD CAUSE MORE TROUBLE THAN SOLVE PROBLEMS. SO BEST TO KIND OF PUT ON THE SHELF AND TIME BEING SO CORRECT.
UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS INDEFINITELY.
IT'S ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 DASH 27 R VOTED DOWN TABLE.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION REQUIRE NO ONE'S HAD A DISCUSSION? I DUNNO.
HOW WAS IT? I THINK, I THINK IT, WE JUST, I THINK WE, UH, THING HERE.
FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL ON TABLE INDEFINITELY.
ARE WE GONNA TAKE A ROLL CALL ON THIS? THE MOTION MADE BY MR.
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HOLROYD IS TO TABLE, PROPOSED ORDINANCE 25 DASH 27 R AS SUBMITTED.[CONSENT CALENDAR]
UH, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES NINE EIGHT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE YORKTOWN DATA STORAGE SYSTEM.
NUMBER NINE IS THE QUEEN LAKE STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT NUMBER 10 IS BUSINESS LICENSE TAX REFUND REQUEST NUMBER 11 IS CURBSIDE REFUGE AND RECYCLING COLLECTION.
NUMBER 12 IS CONTRIBUTION TO THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK.
AND ITEM NUMBER 13 IS THE FIRE MARSHAL APPOINTMENTS.
UM, IS THERE ANY ITEM ANYBODY WOULD CARE TO PULL? I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER EIGHT PLEASE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON NUMBER NINE AND COMMENT ON NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 12.
IF WE WANNA TAKE 12, TAKE THIS IN ORDER.
OKAY, SO THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
WHO WANNA DISCUSS THAT PLEASE.
I WOULD PLEASE MR. WYATT, PLEASE.
SO I GUESS BEING THE IT JOCKEY, I'LL, I'LL COVER THIS ONE.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, WHAT, WHAT DATA ARE WE KEEP IN, IN THOSE STORES? IS IT COUNTY? SO IT'S PRIMARILY THE COUNTY HAS A LITTLE BIT OVER 130 SERVERS.
SO IF YOU KIND OF THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THE SERVERS HOLD MORE THAN ONE APPLICATION, BUT ROUGHLY YOU KIND OF HIT ONE APPLICATION IN THE CLOUD.
SO ON THIS STORAGE IS OVER 130 SERVERS.
JUST ON THIS ONE STORAGE, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PRIMARY STORAGES THAT WE HAVE.
ONE AT YORKTOWN AND ONE AT GOODWIN NECK.
FOUR REDUNDANCY, GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE.
HOW MANY TERABYTES? UM, THE ONES THAT WE, THE RAW AMOUNT OF HARD DRIVE SPACE IS, I BELIEVE 184 TERABYTES.
WHAT, HOW MUCH WERE, ARE WE USING? UM, UTILIZE IS 71.
YOU DON'T GET THE FULL 180 RIGHT.
FOUR TERABYTES ONCE YOU HAVE REDUNDANCY IN HOW YOU PARTITION EVERYTHING OFF.
SO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF HARD DRIVES IN A SERIES.
IF YOU HAVE ONE DIE, YOU DON'T WANT THE WHOLE THING TO GO DOWN.
SO YOU HAVE THINGS CALLED RAID AND REDUNDANCY.
SO THE THEORETICAL 184, THAT'S KIND OF WHY I PAUSED TO BE CLEAR AND YET ACCURATE.
BUT IS IT JUST WHAT I, WHAT I, IS IT COUNTY DATA, BUT, BUT IS ALSO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, THEY ALSO STORE THEIR DATA THERE TOO.
AS WELL AS WE DO A FEW THINGS FOR THE JOINT REGIONAL 9 1 1 CENTER, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, BUT WE HAVE SOME JOINT WHERE IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE.
SO TALK, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE OLD TECHNOLOGY IS VERSUS THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY.
WHERE ARE WE COMING FROM GOING TO, SO I DON'T GET TOO TECHNICAL.
THE OLD ONE IS, IT'S ANOLOGY SYSTEM MODEL FS 6,400.
UM, IT'S SAAS TYPE OF COMMUNICATION.
IN VME, UH, WHAT YOU BASICALLY GET IS A PERFORMANCE OF 10 TIMES THROUGHPUT.
THE OLD ONE HAD TWO DIFFERENT BOXES.
THIS ONE'S CONSOLIDATE INTO ONE BOX.
IN THAT ONE BOX THOUGH YOU HAVE REDUNDANCY, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT BRAINS CALLED SUPERVISORS.
YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT POWER SUPPLIES.
EVERYTHING'S REDUNDANCY FOR IT.
UM, IT'S A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN HAVING TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE SYSTEMS. MM-HMM
YOU GET SOME POWER EFFICIENCIES, A FEW OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM SPENDING PLATTERS TO SOLID STATE.
EVEN THE OLD ONE WAS SOLID STATE.
BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT THROUGHPUT.
YOU GEEKING OUT ON THIS STUFF, AREN'T YOU?
I DON'T WANNA LIVE THAT HERE IN THE COUNTY WITH, WITH THIS DATA.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF GEEKING OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, SO I, I GUESS LAST QUESTION.
WE'VE GOTTA MIGRATE DATA FROM OLD TO NEW.
ARE WE DOING THAT OR DO WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FIGURE? THE ACTUAL MIGRATION THE COUNTY STAFF DOES.
MY VIEWPOINT'S ALWAYS BEEN, YOU CAN'T OUTSOURCE THE RISK.
WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS BY THE END OF JANUARY, EVERYTHING WILL BE MOVED TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO.
ITEM NUMBER AND I, QUEENS LAKE.
YEAH, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY TWO PHASES TO THE QUEENS LAKE.
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IS UNDERWAY.WE, UM, WE HAD A CONTRACT KICKOFF ABOUT A WEEK AGO IN QUEENS LAKE.
THE SECOND PART WHICH STOPS ALL THE SEDIMENT FROM GETTING INTO THE LAKE, IS TO FIX THE RAVINES.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, UH, INTENDED TO DO.
WAS THE ESTIMATED BILL OF WHICH WE HAVE A MILLION IN SLASH GRANT ASSIGNED TO THIS.
SO A GOOD PORTION OF IT IS ALREADY PICKED UP BY THE STATE.
UM, THE, UH, RESTORATION, THESE STREAM RESTORATIONS OVER THE YEARS, IT SEEMS TO ME THE RULES HAVE CHANGED, UM, ON HOW THESE THINGS TAKE PLACE.
CAN YOU, SOMEONE HERE TALK TO THE FACT OF, ARE WE ALLOWED TO GO DOWN IN THE STREAM IN THE BED AND, AND, AND, UH, RESTORE IT DOWN THERE? THAT LEVEL? IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE PERMITTING WITH THE, THE CORE AND DCR TO DO THAT.
A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, THE MAJORITY OF IT IN OUR EASEMENTS, IS TAKING, UM, STREAMS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT WERE BUILT LONG BEFORE STANDARDS.
YOU KNOW, NOW YOU GOTTA BUILD THINGS TO A FIVE, 1,000 AND IT'S FIXING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND SAVING PROPERTY.
SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS.
IF YOU GO TOO FAR, YOU'D HAVE TO BUY WETLAND CREDITS.
SO IT DEPEND, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHERE IT IS.
SO WE USED TO, WE, I REMEMBER WE GO BACK ABOUT 2007, 2006, AND WE WERE TRYING TO DO, UH, THE MORRISS CREEK PROJECT, AND THEY, AND THE STAFF CAME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN TO TAKE IT STAIR STEP, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KIND OF LIKE, THIS IS THE FLAT LAND AND THEN YOU CAN STEP IT DOWN AND YOU CAN STEP IT DOWN.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW THE FLOW OF LAR A LARGER FLOW AND LESS OF A, YOU KNOW, POWER HOSE KIND OF THING GOING THROUGH.
BUT THEY, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WOULDN'T LET US DO IT.
SO, YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA.
THAT'S, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S NEW.
PERMITTING IS HALF THE BATTLE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 11, CURBSIDE REFUGE AND RECYCLING.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IF YOU'LL GIVE US A BRIEFING, UH, JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.
I, LET ME GET YOU STARTED AND THEN YOU CAN IN, YOU CAN
SO THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS, AS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY STATED, IS WE WILL START IN JANUARY, EARLY JANUARY.
UH, A FAIR PERCENTAGE OF THE CARTS WE DID NOT OWN, UH, THE FORMER PROVIDER OWNED THEM.
THEY WILL HAVE TO BE PICKED UP AND REPLACED WITH NEW CARTS.
MR. KRIEGER HAS NEW CARTS ON ORDER AND SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT JANUARY DATE.
UH, MS. TATUM AND I HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK ABOUT THE MESSAGING ON THAT.
WE'RE PLANNING, UH, SOME PRETTY BROAD MESSAGING JUST AS WE DID, UH, WHEN THIS ALL CAME TO PASS TO START WITH.
SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE'RE AT.
MS. KREGER, ANYTHING TO ADD? NOPE.
HOW MANY ARE WE ORDERING CANS, SIR? HOW MANY, HOW MANY CANS ARE WE ORDERING? 2,500 I BELIEVE IT WAS.
RIGHT? I THOUGHT 17,000 PEOPLE USING THIS.
SO WHAT WE, USING THE REUSING THE OLD ONES, WE HAD A BLEND OF CANS.
FROM TFC AND THE RE LIKE THE TRASH CANS WE OWN ALL THE TRASH CANS.
TFC CAME ON BOARD AND IF A CAN WAS BAD, THEY WOULD REPLACE IT WITH A TFC CAN, WELL THE TFC CONTRACT'S GOING AWAY AND THEY WOULD LIKE THEIR PROPERTY BACK.
SO WHEN WE STARTED TO PICK THE CANS UP, WE DID A RESIDENTIAL COUNT AND ORDERED 2,500 CANS AND THAT'S GONNA BE ENOUGH TO REPLACE ALL THE TFC CANS.
SO WHEN THE GARBAGE IS PICKED UP, IS IT GOING, IT IS GONNA BE ON THE SAME DAY AS WE DO RECYCLING.
SO, SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH IT.
A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE WOULD BE, UH, ATTEMPTING TO PICK UP ALL THE RECYCLING IN YORK COUNTY IN ONE WEEK, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A RIGHT, A TWO WEEK KIND OF, AND THEN, UM, BUT IT'S THE SAME COMPANY.
BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN THE TRASH AND RECYCLING.
YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE A BROWN TOP AND THEN THE GREEN TOP JUST LIKE YOU DO NOW.
LET ME QUESTION, CAN I JUMP IN ON THIS? SURE.
SO, UM, RECYCLE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
IT PAYS FOR ITSELF BASED ON USAGE.
SO BASICALLY DO SOME MATH TO SAY THE SERVICE COSTS X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.
YOU HAVE Y NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, YOU DO SOME DIVISION, AND THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS PER PARTICIPANT.
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TO ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I THINK WE'LL GET TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS TOO EXPENSIVE PER PER PERSON THAT THAT IS NO LONGER VIABLE TO RUN RECYCLING.SO THIS, THIS CONVERSATION, MR. ROH WILL, WILL BE HAD AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET.
SO WE, WE WILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS.
MR. UH, MR. ROY I BELIEVE TOOK A CONCERN FROM A CITIZEN ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE THE ANSWER IS THAT WE WILL ADDRESS IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET.
HE WOULD, HIS CITIZEN CONCERN WAS, UM, THAT HE WAS SUBSIDIZING RECYCLING.
BUT AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT, IT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
I WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU, UH, WITH SOME CERTAINTY THAT IN 26, THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, WE HAVE NOT SUPPLEMENTED, UH, THAT ENTERPRISE FUND.
THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
BUT I WOULD SAY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE CURRENT YEAR AND THE PREVIOUS YEAR, UH, IT'S NOT MY BELIEF THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED.
AND, AND WE WANT TO AVOID THAT.
'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S VOLUNTARY USAGE USES BASE CONCERN IS THAT OVER TIME EXPENSES MAY STAY THE SAME OR GO UP, PARTICIPATION GOES DOWN, IT COSTS MORE PER SURE.
PERSON AND IT JUST MAY BECOME NOT VIABLE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO CONTINUE PAYING FOR IT.
BUT MR. ROWAN, I WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THIS, UH, TOPIC HAS BEEN SURVEYED ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS AND, UH, PRETTY, UH, FAVORABLY.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS SAID THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO RECYCLE.
AND IF I RECALL IN THE LAST SURVEY, UH, THEY SAID NOT ONLY DID THEY WANT TO RESURVEY, UH, TO RECYCLE RIGHT.
IF IT COSTS SLIGHTLY MORE, THEY WOULD STILL BE WILLING TO DO IT.
I'M JUST CARE WHAT THE BREAK EVEN POINT IS.
IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT DURING BUDGET, THEN WE, WE WILL THEN WE'LL UNDERSTAND.
MR. KRIEGER WILL COVER THAT EXTENSIVELY OUT.
WE STILL HAVE WELL OVER 16,000 SUB SUBSCRIBERS TO RECYCLING.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T, I QUESTION WHETHER WHEN YOU DESCRIBED THIS AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THEN IT PAY FOR SOMEWHERE IN THERE, YOU'RE GONNA SET THE RATES SO THAT, THAT IT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF.
BECAUSE IN THE PAST, LIKE YOU POINTED OUT, WE, I'M NOT SURE A HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT WE WERE PAYING FOR.
I MEAN, WE, WE ENDED UP WITH A ONE TIME WE STARTED OFF AS A MILLION BUCKS.
AND, AND THAT THEY WOULD THE SMALLER CANS OR WHATEVER, THOSE CONTAINERS, AND THEN ANOTHER COMPANY COMES IN CHARGES 300,000, WHICH WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND THEY ALMOST WENT BANKRUPT.
IN FACT, I THINK THEY DID GO BANKRUPT.
AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND WE GOT THE TFC AGAIN.
AND THE THE BILL WAS WHAT, 1.3 MILLION? SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.
AND, AND SO IS, ARE WE PAYING IN THE TERMS OF, OF THE, UH, WE WE'RE PAYING AT 1.3 MILLION JUST TO COLLECT IT.
THE SELLING AND GETTING ANYTHING BACK ON THIS THING.
I MEAN, LIKE WHEN WE DO SEWER IS PAYING FOR ITSELF.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT, WE PAYING FOR THE PUMPS, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE INSPECTIONS.
MAINTENANCE IS PAYING FOR ITSELF AND RECYCLING.
YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR COLLECTION.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THIS AS AN ENTERPRISE, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST WE'RE PAYING FOR A SERVICE AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BREAK EVEN HERE AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GETTING A LITTLE TWISTED HERE, BUT I, I DON'T SEE IT AS AN ENTERPRISE TO ME AS THE SEWER SYSTEM.
WE DON'T OWN, WE DON'T OWN ANY OF THIS STUFF EXCEPT MAYBE THE CANS, I GUESS THE, THE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT'S BEING CALLED IT, IT'S PAID FOR BY RIGHT.
IT'S A PASS THROUGH SERVICE BASED ON SUBSCRIPTION.
IT'S NOT COMING OUT THE TAX, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY TAXES OUT FOR THIS, SIR.
AND WE HAVE, THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS PULLED WAS A CONTRIBUTION TO THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK.
MR. DREW, WOULD YOU ASK THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? UM, WHEN ARE THEY GONNA SWAP OUT THE CANS? WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, MS. GOODWIN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TODAY.
UH, WE, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TFC, UH, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EASIEST WAY FOR THE COLLECTION AND REDEPLOYMENT OF THE NEW CANS WOULD BE.
UH, WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH TFC AND IT MAY BE THAT THERE IS SOME EFFICIENCY TO PICKING UP CANS AND DELIVERING CANS ALL IN ONE FAIL SWOOP.
SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN'T WORK THAT OUT.
ON THE, UH, ON THE, LET'S SEE, WITH THE LAST ONE,
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THAT WAS THE, UH, FOOD BANK.UM, I JUST WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT, THAT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FOOD BANK.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PUT LIKE 500 BUCKS IN AND THEN IT PRODUCES A, YOU KNOW, A TON OF MEALS.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ESTABLISH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO DO IT.
IT'S JUST, UH, WE, WE, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE.
WHEN THE, UH, GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY HAD POPUP FOOD BANKS.
THEY WOULD DO THE, UH, UH, FOOD BANKS AT THE BASE.
THEY WOULD DO THE FOOD BANKS AT THE COAST GUARD STATION.
THEY, AND, AND WE, WE WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S YOUR COUNTY CITIZENS, IT WAS, EVERYBODY WAS GETTING IT BECAUSE IT'S A PENINSULA FOOD BANK.
UM, A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THAT.
HOWEVER, THEIR EFFICIENCY IS NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS THE SNAP PROGRAM.
SO FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON THE SAP, YOU WERE GETTING BASICALLY $9 WORTH OF SERVICE.
IN MEALS, IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT, THEY COULD PAY FOR ONE MEAL.
AND SOMEHOW THE EFFICIENCY THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAY MUST BE THE PROBABLY MOST EFFICIENT THING THEY'VE GOT IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT JUST GENERATED A TON OF MEALS.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE FOOD BANK IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT THE BEST, UH, UH, WAY OF DISTRIBUTING FUNDS.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT SNAP PROGRAM IS SO IMPORTANT.
WE ARE NOT, WE CAN'T HAVE KIDS.
I'VE SEEN ABOUT THE KIDS GOING HUNGRY AND ALL THAT STUFF, MAN.
THAT'S JUST, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM.
SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BID, BUT IT'S A, IT'S STILL, WHAT IS IT, OUR 2,600 PEOPLE THAT ARE IN YOUR COUNTY THAT ARE ON SNAP PROGRAM.
SO THIS 100,000 IS A DROP IN A BUCKET.
WOULD SOMEBODY CARE TO MOVE THIS? AYE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. HORO IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
SO MR. HORO, WILL YOU TAKE US INTO CLOSED MEETING PLEASE? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE ITEMS IN THE CLOSED BUSINESS.
SO FIRST ITEM IS PERSONNEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A, ONE OF
[CLOSED MEETING]
THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN A CLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING, UH, PERFORMANCE OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS INVESTING OF PUBLIC FUNDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2371 A SIX OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE AND CLOSE MEETING TO DISCUSS A MODIFICATION OF AN EXISTING CONTRACT RELATED TO THE INVESTING OF PUBLIC FUNDS WHERE COMPETITION OR BAR BARGAINING IS INVOLVED.
AND IT INVOLVES THE DISCUSSION OF THE WILLIAMSBURG LIBRARY REGIONAL AGREEMENT.
THIRD ITEM IS LEGAL MATTERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.23711 A SEVEN OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE AND CLOSE MEETING TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, CONSULTANTS, AND OR STAFF ON A MATTER OF ACTUAL LITIGATION IN WHICH THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED.
UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, WHICH WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM DECEMBER THE SECOND IN THE EAST ROOM AT YOUR CALL.
THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE FOR BEING HERE.
AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING.