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[Call to Order]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE OCTOBER 7TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER NOW.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
[1. Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. Receive a presentation from Nicolas Borelli, Member, and Sheri Newcomb, Director of Community Services. ]
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS.THE FIRST ONE WILL BE A PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD PRESENTATION, AND SHERRY NEWCOMB, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE NICK ROWLEY, WHO'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION.
HE IS THE CHAIR OF OUR PARKS AND EXERCISE RESOURCE.
UM, SO, UH, WE KIND OF EXPECTED OURSELVES TO BE, UH, PRESENTING UPSTAIRS, SO FORGIVE ME.
I KIND OF HAVE A RELATIVELY FORMAL DOCUMENT, BUT, UH, WE KEEP IT LATE AND SIMPLE HERE.
UM, SO, UM, MY NAME IS NICHOLAS BRE.
I'M, UH, CHAIRMAN FOR THE PARKS RECORD ADVISORY BOARD.
AND, UM, APPRECIATE, UM, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU OUR STATEMENT AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT YOU CAN KIND OF HELP US OUT.
UM, SO ON BEHALF OF THE NEWLY ESTABLISHED, OR REESTABLISHED, I SHOULD SAY, ADVISORY BOARD, UM, WE ARE HONORED TO SERVE AS A, A VITAL LINK BETWEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, AS OUTLINED IN OUR BYLAWS, UM, WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING AN OPEN DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND, UH, OUR BOARD AS WELL.
SO, UH, THAT IS THE DESCRIPTION OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE, OUR GUIDELINES, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT HERE.
SO MAINTAINING OPEN AND TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION WITH YOU, UM, ENSURING YOU'RE KEPT INFORMED OF OUR ACTIVITIES AND COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES REGARDING PARKS AND RECREATION IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR, OUR GOAL IS.
SO, UH, JOINING ME TODAY IS, IS OUR BOARD.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE THIS, UH, DEDICATED TEAM THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE COLLECTED A, A, A GROUP OF, YOU KNOW, COMPASSIONATE AND, UM, REALLY EXPERTS IN, UH, IN WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS BOARD.
SO I'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM WITH US TODAY AND, UM, THEY HELP, UH, IN, IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING ALL THE, THE PROPER, UH, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS ON, ON OUR BEHALF.
SO, UM, SINCE WE'RE WE'RE NEWLY REFORMED, UM, WE, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE OURSELVES KNOWN TO YOU AND EMPHASIZE REALLY THAT, UH, OUR INTENT IS TO PLAY AN ACTIVE ROLE IN, UH, SUPPORTING THE, THE PARK
AND TO THAT END, WE PLAN ON ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS PERIODICALLY.
UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY STRAIGHT OUT OF OUR BYLAWS IS TO, TO DO SO, SO THAT IS OUR INTENTION.
SO, UH, WE'RE MAKING GOOD ON THAT PROMISE TO YOU.
UM, SO WE, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO, TO ALSO BE INTERACTING WITH, UH, THE MCGILL GROUP, WHERE THE, WE HAVE THIS COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.
AND SO WITH THAT INTERACTION, THAT IS, UH, A VERY VALUABLE TOOL FOR US, UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ASSESS AND PRIORITIZE AND ENHANCE PARKS RECREATION, UM, IN A VERY EMPIRICAL WAY.
SO, AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS, AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS ALREADY MOVING THAT DIRECTION.
AND, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THAT DIRECTION, UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT OUR, OUR NEXT PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME MORE SIGNIFICANT SUBSTANCE AND, AND WHATNOT.
BUT TODAY IS MORE OF JUST A, AN INTRODUCTORY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO REALLY ENGAGING WITH THE RESIDENTS, GATHERING FEEDBACK, UM, AND ENSURING THAT THAT MASTER PLAN, UM, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, 2040 THAT WE REVIEWED IS ALIGNED WITH, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE OVERALL GOALS AS WELL AS THE, THE BOARD'S, UH, INDICATED DESIRES.
SO, UM, WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, UM, AS WE FULFILL ALL OUR MISSION AND, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE A LASTING IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON IT, AND WE'RE TRYING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD, PLEASE? UH, SURE.
SO I'VE GOT, UH, AND WHERE THEY'RE FROM, UH, I'VE GOT JOHN WIGGINS, AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE GOT IT.
UH, I'VE GOT ELIZABETH BARBER, UM, DISTRICT FIVE.
UH, CO
I'M GONNA HOLD OVER FROM THE DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, ONE OTHER MISSING AS WELL AT THE MOMENT, BUT THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DELIGHTED THAT YOU CAME TO SEE US TONIGHT MM-HMM
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH FOR THE CITIZENS IN YORK COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN THAT ARE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE.
BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THE OLDER PEOPLE AS WELL.
ANY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO? I JUST WANT, UM, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.
UH, NOW SHEILA AND I HAVE LIVED THROUGH SOME REALLY TOUGH TIMES DEALING WITH THE, UH, THE PARK, THE GROWTH OF PARKS.
UH, I MEAN, IF I HAD TO GO BACK, PROBABLY IT WAS A REAL WAR GOING ON ABOUT THE MAC AND THEN MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THE MILLIONS WE SPENT ON THAT.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
SOME OF THE NEW FOLKS HAVE ACTUALLY HAD A TOUR OF THE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKS AND WHAT WE, UH, WHAT WE DID ONE TIME WAS, UH,
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THE BOARD GOT A BUS AND WE, WE WENT OUT AND STARTED DOWN IN HERE, KIND OF WORKED OUR WAY UP TO SHOW US THINGS THAT ARE NEW THAT HAVE CHANGED, UH, WOLF TRAP, ALL THESE, ALL THE DIFFERENT ONES.AND, UH, I THINK IT MIGHT BE, I THINK WE GOT A DOG PARK.
WE'RE OUT HERE, DON'T WE? YEAH.
DON'T WE HAVE A DOG PARK? YES.
SO, UM, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T IF THAT FALL INTO YOUR YES.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER THAT, UH, HAVING A, DO A TOUR AND LET US, UH, INVITE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UH, WANT TO ATTEND THAT, AND WE CAN JUST GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND, UM, FROM HERE ALL THE WAY UP TO DISTRICT, UH, ONE AND ABSOLUTELY.
AND SEE THAT, BUT, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.
AND, UM, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITIES.
WOULD YOU LIKE, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO, TO THE TEAM, TO THE ADVISORY BOARD.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MASTER PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S THE REALLY THE FIRST KEY STEP FOR US TO, TO GET BEHIND US.
WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO ACHIEVE? WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR DESIRE FOR THE FUTURE? SO, THANK YOU.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT REPORT.
STEPHEN, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR LARGEST FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW? I WOULD, I WOULD, WITHOUT A QUESTION, SAY IT'S A MASTER PLAN, UM, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU COULDN'T HAVE TIMED IT BETTER TO HAVE MCGILL COME IN THE BOARD REESTABLISHED PROPERLY TO GET US PROPERLY BACK ON OUR FEET AND HAVING THIS HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.
WE ARE KIND OF EMPOWERED WITH THE PROCESS NOW AND THE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT'S COMING TOGETHER, SO THAT OUR OVERALL GOAL IS, I WOULD SAY, TO ALIGN WITH THE 2040 VISION AND WHATEVER THE DATA SAYS THAT COMES OUT OF THIS FOREVER, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A MASTER PLAN IN A LONG TIME,
IT, THE, THE DATA RIGHT AWAY SAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE, WE CAN KIND OF EASILY TELL OUR, I MEAN, YOU CAN COMPARE AND DO, YOU CAN DO BOTH, DO COMPARABLES AND, UH, BASELINE COMPARISONS.
AND, UH, THAT IS, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, UH, BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BEFOREHAND.
UH, WE HAD, WE HAD SOME WHITE PAPERS DONE BEFORE, UH, THIS RECENT MCGILL, UH, PROCESS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF HAD SOME PRELIMINARY THINGS AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD THE, THE GAP AROUND COVID WHEN THE BOARD WAS COLLAPSED.
SO THAT GAP, UH, WHILE IT WAS UNFORTUNATE FOR TIMEFRAME, UH, IT HAS PUT US ON THAT FRESH RESTART.
SO WE REALLY ARE ON A GREAT SET OF FRESH EYES.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE ALIGNED NOW WITH, UH, THE, THE MASTER PLAN BEING KIND OF THAT FOCUS AND EMPIRICAL DATA.
THE MASTER PLAN ALIGNS WITH THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT SURVEY RESULTS THAT WE, WE GOT BACK RECENTLY TOO.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL ALL Y'ALL HELP.
YEAH, I SAY THANK YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR TEAM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SOME GREAT THINGS FOR OUR PARKS AND RECS HERE.
[2. Proposed 2026 York County Legislative Priorities. Receive a Presentation from Richard Hill, County Attorney, and Brian Fuller, Deputy County Administrator.]
OKAY.THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE PROPOSED 2026 YORK COUNTY LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES PRESENTATION BY OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR. HILL.
BRIAN FULLER, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WANNA JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT? NO, WE DON'T WANNA RIGHT INTO THAT YET.
YOU WANT YOUR GLASSES? I DIDN'T SEE IT.
I, I WASN'T TOLD I WAS DRIVING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? REMEMBER THAT THURSDAY? THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT THAT.
JUST WE START ABOUT, START TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SO WE WENT THROUGH TO GET HERE, THEY'RE GONNA, HE'S GONNA LOAD US UP, BUT WE, WE TOOK LAST YEAR'S
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DRAFT AND DRAFTED, UM, TOOK IT, YOU GOT YOUR INPUT, GOT INPUT FROM STAFF, AND COMPILED ALL THIS INFORMATION INTO THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.SO TONIGHT HERE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT AND, AND GET CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE, HOW YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IT.
AND, AND THEN WE WILL FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT AND HAVE IT PREPARED READY FOR, UH, FOR YOU TO PRESENT TO LEGISLATORS AS YOU SEE THEM OUT AND ABOUT AND THINK NOW'S A GOOD TIME AS THEY'RE ALL OUT AND ABOUT
WELL, WE'RE GOOD WITH, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR LOOKING AT THIS, AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A, A GREAT JOB, BUT I THINK IT'S AWFULLY LONG AND WELL, WE, WE CAN EDIT
AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE GOT PART OF THE, UH, PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION'S AGENDA IN HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE THAT SIGN ON TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE GREATER, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT BE TO BE RECOGNIZED AND MAYBE PROCEEDED PROCESS FOLLOWED.
ARE WE READY? WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE, UM, THIS VERSION, WHICH IS A RED LINE, WHICH SHOWS ITS LAST YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WITH CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED AND REQUESTED AND ADDED IN BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS YEAR.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE, THOSE CHANGES FROM PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THIS YEAR SUPERIMPOSED OVER WHAT WE, WHAT WE PUT OUT LAST YEAR.
SO, SO THE, THE LIGHT BLUE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE ADDED THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE RED, HAVE WE REMOVED ANYTHING FROM THE YEAR BEFORE? WHAT'S IN THE RED? IN THE, IN THE RED? WE DID IN SOME OF THE, WE DIDN'T REMOVE ANY SPECIFIC OF THE PRIORITIES FROM, FROM LAST YEAR.
CHANGED SOME LANGUAGE AND MADE SOME CLARIFICATIONS.
BUT LET'S START WITH THE THIRD ONE DOWN.
THEY ALLOW YOUR COUNTY TO IMPOSE A ADMISSIONS TAX, AND THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
IS THAT REALLY SOMETHING WE WANNA PUSH AS A PRIORITY? WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, I KIND OF TURNED THAT TO THE BOARD.
YOU ALL SAY WHAT YOU WANT FIRST.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I WILL MAKE A COMMENT.
IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS A PRIORITY.
UH, IT, I I WOULD AGREE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE BREATH, THE BREADTH OF THIS PRIORITY LIST.
SO LET'S TAKE, THAT'LL DIAL, DIAL IT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT TO REMOVING THAT? YEAH.
I'M SURPRISED IT'S STILL IN THERE.
YOU WANT I CAN REMEMBER WE MADE A BIG STINK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I THINK THE, THE REASON WE JUST, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE FOR DISCUSSION IS LAST YEAR DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE TALKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF GENERATING TAX.
BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, I REMEMBER YOU REMEMBER THE SUBMISSION.
WHAT IS IT? ADMISSION TO THE BEACH DOWN HERE? YEAH.
THIS WOULD BE NO WAY FOR THE PARKING EITHER.
THIS WOULD BE THINGS LIKE WATER, COUNTRY, USA GREAT WOLF LODGE PLACES REPLACE THAT CHARGES A MISSION TODAY PLACES A CHARGE ADMISSION.
LET'S, OKAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS AGAIN.
THERE WOULD BE A SMALL PERCENTAGE ADDED ON TO THOSE TICKETS AND THEN WE WOULD THAT OKAY.
I'M THINK OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT THEN.
REGARDING THE LEGISLATIVE PART OF THIS, THIS WOULD ONLY BE REQUESTING THE STATE TO AUTHORIZE US TO DO IT.
SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO DO SO? IT'S OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT IMPOSE AN ADMISSIONS TAX OR MANDATE THAT WE DO ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO DO IT WITH THE LEGISLATION FOR THE TOMMY TAX THERE.
WE COULDN'T DO IT UNTIL JANUARY OF 26.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILLIAMSBURG HAS AN EMISSIONS TAX.
CITY, COUNTY, CITIES HAS ALWAYS BEEN ANYTHING TO DO IT.
SO, WELL, I REMEMBER, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TAKE THE TAX BURDEN OFF OF THE, A LOT OF CITIZENS, TOURISTS AND PAY, GET IT COLLECTED FROM THE TOURISTS, WHICH IS A BIG THING THEY DO IN FLORIDA AND, AND THE BIG TOURIST, UH, SITES.
SO, HEY, I REMEMBER THAT PART AND, AND I'M, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
IF IT HELPS REDUCE THE TAX ON OUR CITIZENS AND WE, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, OF THE, UH, TOURISTS THAT COME IN HERE, WHICH THIS IS A BIG BUSINESS.
WE GET LIKE $8 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS ALSO USE WATER COUNTRY, USA AND THE OTHER THINGS, NO OPTIONS.
AND THEY'RE, I'M NOT, I MEAN, THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO GET TAX REVENUE WITHOUT HAVING TO HIT THE PROPERTY TAX AND THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
I MEAN THE, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
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HERE.I WOULDN'T AGREE WITH IT, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
UH, WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? WE NOT ARGUE ABOUT
SO I THINK THE POINT, THE POINT OF THAT ONE IS IF WE LEAVE IT IN THERE AND, AND IT GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT OR NOT TO DO IT.
SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVE THAT OPTION.
SHOULD WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE OPTION? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING IT IN THERE TO HAVE THE OPTION DOWN THE ROAD IF WE WANT.
IT'S JUST ONE, TWO, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY, THAT SHOULD BE THAT REAL PRIORITY UP THERE.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ITEMS ON THAT ONE.
RIGHT? IT JUST WOULD, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FOCUS OUR, OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLIES TASK ON CERTAIN THINGS AND NOT TAKE IT OUT.
THAT'S ALL I I, I'M, I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE IT, BUT IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS A PRIORITY WHEN I READ THE REST OF THE LIST.
SO THE POINT I WAS MAKING, DID YOU SAY, DID YOU SAY JAMES CITY COUNTY CAN DO IT? NO, THEY CANNOT.
THEY'RE IN THE SAME BOAT AS WE ARE.
THEY HAVE TO GET LEGISLATION FROM GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND PERMISSION TO DO.
AND BASICALLY, GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD JUST CONVEY WHAT CITIES CAN DO NOW TO COUNTIES.
THEY WOULDN'T JUST PICK AND CHOOSE A COUNTY TO DO IT.
THEY'D JUST SAY TO DO ANYTHING.
THEY WOULD SAY ALL COUNTIES CAN DO IT.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THE, AND LOOKING AT WHERE IT'S PLACED ON THE LIST ALSO DOESN'T APPEAL TO ME.
I, I LOOK AT NUMBER, WHAT YOU HAVE, NUMBER 3, 1, 2, 3, 4.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE UP THERE BY PRIORITY.
THIS WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE RANKED.
WHICH ONE YOU LOOKING WHEN SOMEONE LOOKS AT IT, WHETHER YOU MAY GET IT OR NOT.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DECIDE, IS THAT WHAT WE WANT DO TO DO, WE WANT TO RANK THEM FROM ONE TO SIX.
AND IF WE WANT TO REMOVE THEM, WE RANK THEM WELL, THE DOTS OR NOT, WHETHER THEY HAVE NUMBERS OR DOTS THAT THEY'RE STILL RANKED BECAUSE THE WAY PEOPLE READ, READ IT.
SHEILA, IF WE WANT TO RANK THEM, WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDER.
WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDER OF WHAT THEY ARE CLARIFY, RIGHT? OH, DEFINITELY.
IF YOU KNOW WHERE I WOULD PUT PUT NUMBER FOUR PUT THAT DID GET UP HIGHER.
I MEAN, I'D MOVE IT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NICOTINE VAPE TAX.
I WOULD MOVE THE, THE VETERANS SUPPORT.
BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMONWEALTH ALSO NEEDS A, NEEDS SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS.
WHETHER IT BE A PERCENTAGE, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE, HOW THEY HANDLE IT, BUT I THINK THEY NEED SKIN IN THE GAME.
IF YOU EXCUSE THE EXPRESSION, THEY'VE PASSED THE LAW, BUT THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
AND I, I AGREE WITH THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I THINK THAT THE, THAT IT SHOULD BE HOLISTIC.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE COMMONWEALTH SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL.
SO WHAT'S WHAT, WHAT'S THE POINT? WHAT'S THE POINT? THE, THE POINT IS I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT STRONG.
NEVER WAS, NEVER HAS BEEN THE REASON WE DIDN'T PRIORITIZE 'EM.
'CAUSE WE'D BE SITTING HERE FOR FOR HOURS AND HOURS.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.
WE DIDN'T, IT DELIBERATELY DID NOT WANNA PRIORITIZE THESE.
WE SAID THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SO WHEN YOU LINE 'EM UP WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN HAMPTON ROADS, THERE MAY BE A FEW OVERLAPS.
OKAY? BUT YOU START MAKING ONE, ONE, IT MAY END UP BEING ZERO FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND WE JUST FOUND THAT THAT WAS WORTHLESS.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE SAID WE PUT 'EM HERE AS A LIST.
THIS IS OUR, THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES.
AND I, I, FROM, FROM TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT, UH, JURISDICTIONS, IT IS A, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONES THAT CARRY THIS, RIGHT? THEY'RE UP HERE.
BUT I'M NOT A WASTE OF BRAIN CELLS SITTING HERE SAYING THE WORDS FROM ONE, TWO, AND 3, 4, 5.
THE WHOLE THING ABOUT IT, TOM, IT'S, IT IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH THIS AND WE, WHETHER WE PRIORITIZE IT OR WE, WE SIMPLIFY IT OR WE MAKE IT LONG OR WE MAKE IT SHORT, WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE THING OUT OF IT FOR ALL THE YEARS THAT I CAN REMEMBER.
AND I'M NOT GONNA KILL MYSELF OVER IT.
IT'S AN EXERCISE OF FU UTILITY THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR.
THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GONNA WASTE A BRAIN CELL TRYING TO LIST THESE FROM ONE TO SIX OR WHATEVER PRIORITIZATION THIS IS.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT POINTS THAT WE'VE RAISED.
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IS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.OF COURSE THEY ARE LIST WE WOULDN'T SEND THEM FORWARD IF THEY AREN'T.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SHOULD WE MOVE ON? WE MOVE ON.
IS THERE ANYTHING HERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL OR ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO STRENGTHEN OR SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SIMPLIFY? SO TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE SUPPORT.
ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDED SUPPORT SPY BAY ACT WITH FOCUS ON SEAWATER RISE.
SO WHAT, WHICH ONE'S THIS THAT'S UNDER TECHNOLOGY AND RESILIENCY.
YOU REALLY, I, I DID, I KNOW
MY EYES HAVEN'T COME DOWN THAT FAR YET, BUT I DON'T THAT ONE.
BUT ANYTHING UNDER TRANSPORTATION.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING UNDER TRANSPORTATION.
DID YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERSTAND, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT STUART WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
SUPPORT THE CREATION OF A PRIMARY SECONDARY ROAD FUND.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ONCE BEFORE.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THE STATE TO PARK MONEY TO SUPPORT IMPROVEMENTS IN ANY PRIMARY SECONDARY ROAD.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS UP THERE.
UH, SOME, SOME FOLKS THINK IT'S THE WAY THERE'S A TAX RELATED TO THIS.
COULD BE IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THE STATE, LIKE, UH, WHEN, UH, DELEGATE, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? BARRY.
ANYWAY, THE ONE HE DID ACTUALLY GOT $500,000 FOR THE I 64 WIDENING.
HE, HE DID THAT TO GET THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO SAY, YES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
THEY GIVE IT TO, THEY GAVE IT TO VDOT, NOT TO VT, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION.
NOW, UH, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS GUY TO GO GET THE WHOLE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO FUND THAT ONE PROJECT IN THIS CASE WHERE YOU END UP WITH, UM, THE STATE GOING, OKAY, WELL LOOK, WE GOT EXTRA 50,000, OR NOT 50,000, BUT 50 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR TWO OF FIVE, 6 MILLION, WHATEVER.
AND WE WANT TO PUT IT ON HAMPTON ROADS.
THEY COULD PUT IT IN THE BUDGET AND DUMP IT, DUMP IT HERE FOR US TO USE.
AND THEN THE, THEN SOMEBODY LIKE THE TPO OR HR T, BUT THEN HELP US DECIDE THE PRIORITIZATION ON IT.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF PUTTING IT IN THERE.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEXT STEP OF HOW DO YOU FUND WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT MAY, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE TAX.
IT JUST, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR HAMPTON RES.
I AGREE WITH IT BEING IN THERE.
THAT LINE ITEM DOESN'T TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HAMPTON ROADS, JUST IN GENERAL.
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE MAKE IT, YES.
IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED A SECOND PRIMARY SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM FOR THE FUND, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, STATE.
THEY CAN JUST USE WHATEVER THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.
BUT THEY WOULD NE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE WOULD GET ONE DOWN HERE, BUT, UM, THEY, THEY'RE I THINK YOU'LL FIND MOSTLY IN, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER, THE WORDING FROM SOME OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT YEP.
I HAVE A QUESTION WHILE I'M GOING THROUGH THIS.
I, I LOOK AT THE PROVIDE FULL AND ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR ROAD NETWORK MAINTENANCE.
AND ISN'T THAT A PRIMARY JOB OF VDOT TO BEGIN WITH BEFORE THEY DO ANY ROAD WORK AT ALL? THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE FORMED TO DO, IS TO PROVIDE THE MAINTENANCE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THEIR NUMBER ONE BEFORE YOU CREATE ANOTHER.
THAT'S THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
BUT THAT'S 'CAUSE IT'S IN NUMBER THREE SLOT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE TRANSPORTATION ONE? YES.
MR. SHEPHERD'S POINT AND MR. ROY'S POINT I UNDER, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A CONSENSUS EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE CREATION OF A PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ROAD FUND, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A CONSENSUS AS AS TO HOW TO FUND THE DEDICATED SOURCE WOULD SAY? I WOULD SAY LEAVE IT.
SO WE SHOULD STRIKE, SO WE SHOULD MAKE IT SAY, SUPPORT THE CREATION OF A PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ROADS FUND AND THE CREATION OF A AND THE CREATION OF SOURCE, A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
AND THEN STRIKE JUST GIVES, UH, IT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY, THE, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES THE MUNICIPALITY THE AUTHORITY TO COME TOGETHER, UH, THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, WHICH IS LACK A BETTER WORD, CALLED IT THE NPOS, UH, TO GET TOGETHER AND, AND DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO DO THIS.
AND BEFORE EVERYTHING, LIKE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
IT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD FOR A, FOR A BOAT.
WHY, WHY DO WE STRIKE WALKING AND BIKE BIKING TRAILS? 'CAUSE IT'S COVERED ELSEWHERE.
DO WE, SO WHAT ARE WE STRIKING? THAT WAS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY STRUCK.
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WALKING AND BIKING TRAILS.WE, WE COVER THAT UNDER 7 5 7.
AND, AND OTHER, THIS THIS ONE YOU HAD TO QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ACT.
THAT'S ADD IT NEW THIS YEAR THERE.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE DRIVER BEHIND? AND THAT IN THERE, JUST GET MORE MONEY THAT THE BEST I CAN.
WELL, THE BEST I CAN TELL FROM THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF IT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID YOUR COUNTY TO END UP WITH A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR BILL.
TO CLEAN, TO DO ITS SHARE OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
THERE'S A-T-M-D-L STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT'S HOW TO ME, THAT'S HOW I READ PART OF THAT.
'CAUSE THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ACT MM-HMM
UM, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T ACHIEVED OUR, OUR GOALS.
BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY HAVE TO STEP UP AND FIGURE OUT, THERE'S A POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ANY MORE CREDITS.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR BUDGETS ARE BACK THERE.
SO YOU TELL ME IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING WRONG, BUT WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE TO MEET THE GOALS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY.
MAYBE HAVE PRETTY STRONGLY HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY.
THE ORIGINAL BILL ESTIMATED FOR YOUR COUNTY, BECAUSE OF ALL THE LAND THAT IT COMES TO BASE OUR COUNTY ON, UH, 200, 200 MILES OF, OF THIS OF SEA BAY STUFF, IT'S, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH THE, UH, BMPS, THE SEWER SYSTEMS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE IS NOT HAVE TO FACE A FACE A, A MANDATORY BILL PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 30, $40 MILLION.
WHEN WAS THAT? SO WOULD IT SHOULD, SHOULD WE SAY REMOVE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF LOCALITIES FOR FUNDING THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ACT? THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A, A, AN ISSUE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE FACT THAT BIG BROTHER TELLS US WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND DEFINES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT THERE'S NO MONEY THAT COMES WITH IT.
COUPLE OF OTHER FORMS. BUT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE SMALLER JURISDICTIONS HAVE TO TAKE OUT LOAN TO PAY FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE, THEY DON'T GET ANY REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE, AND SOME OF THEM CAN'T AFFORD TO, TO TAKE THE LOAN OUT.
THEY DON'T GET THE MONEY FIRST.
BUT SO, BUT SO SAYING IT'S, INSTEAD OF SAYING SUPPORT ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDING, JUST REMOVE THE BURDEN FROM THE LOCALITIES TO SUPPORT THE CHESAPEAKE PAY ACT NEVER HAPPENED.
BUT IF WE CAN'T PAY IT, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN EITHER.
THEY'LL COME GET YOUR MONEY COME, THEY'LL MAKE YOU PAY IT THROUGH THE TAXES.
EITHER SO, SO, SO THEY WON'T OPPOSE THE TAX.
WELL THEN THAT WILL BE ON THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THINK OUR, THINK OF OUR, THINK OF OUR SALES TAX.
RIGHT NOW, OUR SALES TAX IS THE HIGHEST IN, HIGHEST IN THE STATE HERE.
HOW MUCH OF THAT DO WE GET? 2 CENTS.
SOME OF, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SHARING, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SHARING WITH THE STATE, A LITTLE SHARING WITH THE SCHOOL, BUT REST OF IT PREDOMINANTLY GOES TO STATE.
THEY COLLECT IT THROUGH OUR SALES TAX AND THEY, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THEY COULD DO THIS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA TELL 'EM TO NOT TELL 'EM TO REDUCE THE BURDEN.
IT'S LIKE TELLING 'EM TO DON'T GIVE US ANY UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT THIS BURDEN, THERE'S LIKE WHAT, 660 UNFUNDED MANDATES, HALF OF WHICH BELONG TO THE SCHOOLS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THAT'S LIKE TOO MUCH IN YOUR FACE I THINK FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE WANT THEM TO SHARE THE BURDEN IF THEY'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT THE BURDEN'S GOING TO BE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE SAY IN THE STATE.
WE'RE SAYING THAT ARE STATE ADD MONEY, DID WE SAY PARTICULAR FOCUS OF SEA WATER RISE? WE SEE THAT'S WHERE THE MOST OF THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT TO RE REBUILD SHORELINES AND STUFF.
IS THAT WHY WE SAID I, THAT'S BEEN A BIG FOCUS.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF REGIONAL PROJECTS, UH, ON SEA, SEA WATER RISE, SEA RISE, THAT NOW HAVE GOTTEN KIND OF STALLED WITH SOME OF THE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
AGAIN, THE PROBLEM WITH SEA, SEA RISE ISSUES IS THAT WE DID, YEARS AGO, THEY DID, UH, THE DUTCH STUDY, THEY DID A COUPLE OTHER STUDIES.
THIS WAS IN THE, THE, UH, ANTHO, UM, PDC.
AND UH, THE IDEA WAS THAT, UH, THEY GONNA EVENTUALLY HAVE, WE LOOKED AT LOCKS LIKE THE DUTCH LOCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET, THEY'VE GOT A FACE SOMEWHERE OR WE'RE GONNA END UP LOSING LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE OR SOME, UH, SOME OTHER BASE OR SOMETHING.
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OF RISE AND IT'S, YOU GET UP THERE AND START ADDRESSING THE STATE LEVEL RISE IN A PROPER MANNER.THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THAT OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
WE ALSO NEED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY TO DO IT AS WELL.
NOT JUST STATE MONEY, ANY FEDERAL PITCH IN.
BUT YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST LIKE, THERE IS NO MONEY GOING TOWARDS THIS AT ALL.
TAKE ALL THAT RIP WRAP FROM THE, THE BRIDGE TUNNEL THING AND JUST PUT IT ON THE SHORELINE.
IT'S SEAWATER RISE RATHER THAN GROUND LEVEL SUBSIDES BOTH THE GROUND IS SINKING COMBINATION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S TO SINK IT, IT'S THIS WAY.
THAT'S WHY WE GOT SWIFT FOR THE, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT PROBLEMS. GOTTA REQUIRE TWO DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.
AND, AND I THINK THERE IS A SOLUTION FOR THE SUBSIDENCE.
I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING IT WITH SWIFT.
THE, UH, SO WE MAY BE BUYING TIME WITH WHAT SWIFT DOES FOR THE GROUND LEVEL SUBSIDENCE.
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S WATER RUNOFF TAKING, TAKING YOUR LAND AWAY WELL KNOWN.
AND IT'S SINKING, SINKING THE ALONG.
IT'S YOU, YOU WATER INTO THE GROUNDS AS YOU PULL MONEY.
WELL, BUT ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND AQUIFER.
KEEP IN MIND THE AQUIFER, WE'RE PUMPING THIS WATER.
IT RUNS NOT ONLY FROM BASICALLY NORTH CAROLINA, IT RUNS ALL THE WAY UP TOWARDS DC OKAY.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING WATER AND FILLING, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT, PUSHING IT DOWN IN THERE.
UM, FACTORIES LIKE YOU HAD IN FRANKLIN USED TO BE THE PAPER MILL, WHICH SUCK 400, 400,000 GALLONS A DAY OF WATER OUT OF, OUT OF THE AQUIFER.
SO IT'S TAKING THAT, IT'S GETTING THAT DONE.
THE SEED LEVEL RISE ISSUE RIGHT NOW, UH, IS IS PREDOMINANTLY LIKE NORFOLK AREA.
WELL, ANOTHER PART WOULD BE THE, THE, THE ROAD IN, UH, SEAFORD TRYING TO ELEVATE THE ROAD.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO DO THESE PIECEMEAL THINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO IT IN A MANNER THAT'S, UH, RIGHT.
THAT'S GONNA BE I THINK A REALLY EFFECTIVE RIGHT.
BUT AGAIN, IS THE, IS THE SEA WATER RISING OR IS THE LAND SINKING? BOTH.
AND THEY GOT SOME, JUST SOME PRETTY DIRE PREDICTIONS BY THE TURN OF THE CENTURY WHERE, OKAY, ARE WE, ARE WE STILL GOING THROUGH THIS NOW? THE HOUSES UNDERWATER, YOU STARTING TO GET WATER AND HOUSING.
WELL, IT COMES BACK TO THAT LINE.
AND I THINK LEAVING SEAWATER, UH, RISE IN THERE PROBABLY GIVES IT MORE CHANCE OF BEING ACCEPTED.
BECAUSE THAT'S A MORE ACCEPTABLE WAY OF FUNDING.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WAS DRIVER.
SO YOU CAN GET A BRIEFING ON THAT IF YOU NEED IT OR GET SOME INFORMATION, UH, FROM THE, THE PDC MM-HMM
OR NOT P YEAH, THE PDC HAS GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE ANALYSIS OF HOW THE, THE, THE SUBSIDENCE AND THE RISE.
SO I JUST TURNED THE PAGE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WELL, I'M DEAD SET AGAINST THE, THE BOTTOM ONE ON THERE.
MR. MONTGOMERY MAY WANT IT, BUT WHICH, WHICH ONE ARE WE LOOKING AT? ENACT LEGISLATION TO MAKE THE WEAR SEAT BELTS.
I READ ABOUT 50,000 FINES BEING HANDED OUT OVER, UH, I 64.
AND IT'S JUST, I DON'T ACCEPT THAT.
THIS IS JUST A RED FLAG FOR ME.
I
THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR.
WELL, WE CAN EASILY, WE CAN EASILY STRIKE NUMBER SIX.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE THING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING WITH SHERIFF ABOUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S PROOF.
OUR CONCERN ABOUT THROWING CAMERAS UP EVERY TIME AROUND.
I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT, WE, WE WANT THOSE LIMITED AND NO WAY.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING ALL ROADWAYS AND STREETS.
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT NOW? AND I DON'T LIKE AUTOMATIC TO HAVE CAMERAS.
NO WAY THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES MY SKIN TO
I THINK, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT JUST
IS THERE A CONCERN THAT IT'S GONNA GO AWAY OR WE'RE JUST LIKE TRYING TO HEDGE OUR BET ONE CAN SPEAK TO THIS.
YEAH, I MEAN, ARE YOU HEARING THAT IT MIGHT GO AWAY OR THE $5 MILLION LOAN PROGRAM? THE GRANT PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED BY LEGISLATOR AND THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS YEAR ONLY.
AND THE FIRE SERVICE, THE VARIOUS FIRE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE COMMONWEALTH LEVEL, EXCUSE ME, ARE ASKING FOR IT TO CONTINUE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING, THIS WAS PART OF A FUNDING STUDY THAT WAS STARTED ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, STATEWIDE, TO UPGRADE THE FIRE SERVICE FUNDING THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY AGREED TO DO IT ONCE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE IT BE A CONTINUAL CHIEF.
WHAT IS THAT FUND? WHAT DOES IT FUND FOR US RIGHT NOW? FOR US, NOTHING REALLY.
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ACTUALLY FOR MORE, SO IT'S A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM, BUT IT'S TARGETED REALLY AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE STATE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.ON SOME OF THE VOLUNTEER AGENCIES, THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR US THERE'S ONLY 5 MILLION AND IT'S VERY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE WITH IT.
AND IT WAS REALLY TARGETED FOR COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, FIRE APPARATUS, AND PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE AGENCIES THAT COULD HAVE A NEED.
AND THIS REALLY CAME OUT OF THE, THE FUNDING STUDY WOULD SHOW THERE WERE STILL FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN VIRGINIA, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER THAT HAD DIRT FLOOR FIRE STATIONS.
UH, APPARATUS WAS 50 YEARS OLD.
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WAS OUTSIDE THE NATIONAL STANDARD.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEN AS, UH, AS A, AS A PART OF THE TOTAL FIREFIGHTING CAPABILITY YES.
IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA TO SUPPORT THAT.
AND SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES WOULD FREE UP OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
WHAT OTHER GRANT PROGRAMS? AND YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, WHAT IS CONSIDERED SMALL EQUIPMENT? SO YEAH, CHIEF, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE ABOVE IT AND JUST DESCRIBE THAT FOR ME? I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHAT THE 1% INCREASE IN INSURANCE FEE MEANT.
SO I AID LOCALITIES FUNDING IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
IT'S FUNDING THAT'S PROVIDED THROUGH, UH, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS TO THE JURISDICTIONS OF GOVERNMENT, THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH.
UM, IT'S A PERCENT OF THE INSURANCE FEES THAT ARE PAID IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND AGAIN, THIS FUNDING STUDY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S BEEN 1% FOR YEARS, DECADES TO MAKE INCREASE THAT AGAIN, TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE LOCALITIES OF PROVIDING FIRE PROTECTION IN THE COMMONWEALTH TO TRY TO EVEN KNOW THE PLAYING FIELD.
SO IT'S A STATE INCREASING THEIR FUNDING NOT RIGHT.
IT'S WHY THEY INCREASING THE FUNDING, FUNDING REQUEST TO THE INSURANCE.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE.
YOU'RE JUST ASKING TO INCREASE THE 1%.
THEY'RE ASKING TO INCREASE WHICH INSURANCE ARE WE ASKING TO INCREASE THE INDIVIDUAL OR MUNICIPALITY? IT'S THE PRICE.
IT'S THE PRICE THAT IS PAID BY THE INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I JUST PASS THAT TO THE, THEY JUST PASSED THAT TO THE CUSTOMER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THESE LAST TWO ARE UNCHANGED FROM LAST YEAR.
THE ENACT LEGISLATION FOR THE WEARING SEAT BELTS.
UH, YOU WANNA GO BACK A WEEK? YES.
AND ARE WE, WE'RE SCRATCHING THE LAST ONE.
SO NOW LET'S GET DOWN TO THE EDUCATION SUPPORTS AND EDUCATION SUPPORT AND LAND USE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
THE LAST ONE GIVE GIVE YOU A LITTLE, THIS LAST, VERY LAST AVOID FUNDING FORMULAS.
WHAT, WHAT IS I I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING VIRGINIA CODE 15 2 9 1 4 EDUCATION LEVEL EDUCATION, SORRY.
ANALYZES LOCALITIES THAT SUPPORT SCHOOL SYSTEMS AT HIGHER LEVELS.
SO WHAT'S A PENALTY? WE'RE A FLUENT, A FLUENT JURISDICTION THAT, AND WE FUND THE SCHOOLS AT A HIGH LEVEL.
SO THEREFORE WHEN THE STATE GETS OUT, WAIT, EXCUSE ME, LET ME STOP.
IF YOU LOOK AT COST PER STUDENT IN THE YORK COUNTY, WE ARE ACTUALLY THE LOWEST COST PER STUDENT WE ARE.
SO WHAT'S, HOW DO YOU GET TO WHERE, I MEAN, I LOGIC WOULD DICTATE IF YOU HAVE AN INCOME, HOUSEHOLD INCOME THAT'S CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT'S WELL ABOVE THE COUNTIES IN THE REST OF THE STATE.
THAT MEANS WE GOT A LOT OF MONEY.
HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT? WE ARE FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS AT A, AT A HIGHER RATE.
WELL, THEY TOOK THE AGGREGATE STATEWIDE AND THEY'RE JUST, AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, THERE'S LOTS OF AREAS THAT DON'T FUND.
THAT'S THEIR SCHOOLS REALLY RURAL AREAS OUT THERE.
SO, BUT THE STATE FUNDING FOR CIP PROJECTS, THEY GET A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THE MONEY.
WE GET PENALIZED BECAUSE WE CAN PAY AND HAVE PAID WHEN THEY GIVE OUT MONEY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
WE DON'T FARE AS WELL IN STATE FUNDING.
WELL, THE WHOLE IDEA IS SORT OF TO EQUALIZE EDUCATION THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH.
THEY DON'T USE THE COMPOSITE INDEX.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING THOUGH IS NOT TO BE, NOT TO EQUALIZE IT.
WE'RE ASKED TO NOT BE PENALIZED FOR SUPPORTING OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL AS WHAT OUR, OUR PENALTY IS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T GET AS MUCH STATE MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT.
BUT IT SAID THAT WOULD TURN A BLIND'S EYE TO THE BLIND'S EYE TO COMMUNITIES LIKE LEE COUNTY.
WHERE YOU GOT NOTHING MM-HMM
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GOT SHEEP FARMERS AND CATTLE FARMERS AND THAT'S IT OUT THERE.AND THERE'S A MILLION MILES APART.
SO THERE KIDS OUT THERE STILL HAVE TO GET FUNDED AND THEY, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY RELY ON STATE FUNDING.
I I'M JUST, TO ME, THIS, THIS IS, THERE'S GOTTA BE A LINE IN HERE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY SOME MONEY.
NOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIG POLITICAL PIECE TO THIS AND IT GOES INTO, UH, OKAY.
WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT? THE, UH, WHERE YOU POSITIVE INDEX, THE COMPOSITE INDEX IS HOW THEY, THEY JUDGE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE RAISED.
NO, IT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF LIKE, THEY HAVE THE FENCE AND EVERYBODY HAS TO LOOK OVER THE FENCE.
EQUITY, EQUITY VERSUS QUALITY.
SO JUST GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH IT.
WELL, THAT'S NOT EVER GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WHERE DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THIS ONE? DO YOU FEEL THAT, THAT SINCE WE'RE IN AFFLUENT COUNTY, THAT WE WE SHOULD NOT WE, WE SHOULDN'T.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST KIND OF EMBARRASSED TO FACT THAT, WELL, I TAKE THAT ONE OUT.
THE FIRST TWO ON THERE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M AFTER.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONES WE SHOULD BE DRIVING THE FIRST TWO UNDER EDUCATION AND EDUCATION.
I JUST DON'T LIKE, I JUST LIKE THE, THE WORDING OF IT.
I MEAN, I, AND THAT'S, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
I DON'T SEE IT AS IMPORTANT FOR US.
THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL UP THERE.
YEAH, I'D, I'D BE FINE TAKING IT OUT.
OKAY, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO LAND USE.
WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD REFRESH IT.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT THE, UM, GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASS LEGISLATION MAKING, UM, ALLOWING, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS YES.
AND OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY AS A MATTER OF, RIGHT? YES.
BUT ONLY IN THOSE CASES IN WHICH THE LOCALITY, UM, DIDN'T PASS SOMETHING AFTER DECEMBER 31ST, 2020 5, 23.
THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE OUR AUTHORITY AWAY FROM US.
WELL, THEY, BUT THEY, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DIDN'T REALLY MAKE IT ANY BE THEY DIDN'T MAKE, THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHEN THEY PASS THE LEGISLATION AND IT CAN BE INTERPRETED TO PROHIBIT ANY AMENDMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THE OPTION OF, UM, PASSING A POLICY AS OPPOSED TO PASSING SPECIFIC CHANGES TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST WAS.
AND WE DRAFTED SPECIFIC LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE THAT WE GAVE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ASK THEM TO SUPPORT.
I, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE CRUX OF WHAT THAT IS.
AND SO THE FIRST AND SECOND ONE, BUT SECOND DAUGHTER PASSED AND LEGISLATION, IS THAT STILL NOW KIND TIED TOGETHER? UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT, WERE YOU STILL ON BULLET POINT NUMBER ONE MM-HMM
YEAH, I MEAN, I, THE, THE, THE REQUEST WAS THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION THAT WOULD'VE CLARIFIED VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT IF WE HAVE AN EXISTING SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT MM-HMM
WE WE CAN AMEND THAT SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENT WITHOUT, WITHOUT BEING PREEMPTED BY THIS PROVISION.
AND THE NEXT ONE WAS, LOCAL AUTHORITIES SHOULD RETAIN CONTROL, LOCAL AUTHORITY, CONTROL OVER ZONING, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS A BIG FOCUS NOW OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT IS SMALL HOUSE, SMALL HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY USING GARAGES AND SO FORTH.
AND THE FINAL ONE WAS OUR DAYCARE DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, THEY STATE LAW ALREADY ALLOWS CITIES THAT OTHER, SOME LOCALITIES MUCH BROADER AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITH AND REGULATE DAYCARES AND THEY THAT'S RIGHT.
AND WE SIMPLY ASK, WOULD YOU BE EQUALIZED AGREE WITH THAT ONE? I KNOW IT, I KNOW WE KIND OF TOUCHED UPON IT.
DO WE WANT TO BULLET POINT SPECIFICALLY SAYS, UM, LAND, LAND USE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE BY THE LOCALITIES, NOT BY THE STATE.
I MEAN I KNOW WE KIND OF TOUCH UPON THAT HERE, BUT IT'S WHAT POINT TO JUST KEEP DRIVING HOME? WELL, IT'S A BROADER POINT.
BUT GENERAL ASSEMBLY, ANY TIME GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA DECIDE WHAT LAND USE COUNTIES DON'T GET TO DECIDE THAT ANYMORE.
AND I DON'T THINK HAVING ANY OF OUR PRIORITIES IS GONNA CHANGE THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S, AND THAT GOES FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY, ANY OTHER BULLET POINTS HERE, BUT
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PROBABLY, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO, WELL, YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT, SO THINK YOU GUYS CARED ABOUT IT VERY MUCH, BUT YOU COULD DRAFT SOMETHING LIKE EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF LEAVING LAND USE DECISIONS TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THEM BEST IN THE LOCALITIES.THAT'S KIND OF JUST SET THAT EXPECTATION.
PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IS SIMILAR AS LAST YEAR.
WE JUST CLEAN THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE.
CAN WE CAN, CAN WE INCREASE THE FONT SIZE AND BOLD IT AND MAKE IT RED
I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS THAT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE COUNTY AND ALL THE BOARDS AND SO FORTH THAT HAVE TO PUT OUT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS SUCH A WASTE OF MONEY.
BUT YOU KEEPING THE NEWSPAPERS ALIVE, CHAD SAID HE HAD MORE LOBBYISTS AT HIS DOOR ON THIS ISSUE THAN ANY SINGLE OTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? BE COMPETITIVE.
SO WELL YOU THINK A NEWS, YOU THINK OF NEWS PRINT FOR THIS.
BUT 'CAUSE NEWS, NEWS, NEWSPAPERS, EVEN, EVEN IN FACT, SOME OF 'EM DON'T HAVE PRINT AT ALL OR THEY'RE ONLINE.
SO IT'S, UH, BUT I THINK THAT THE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU TELL US SOME, SOMEBODY TELL US THAT THEY, THAT IT'S THE NEWSPRINT THAT WE'VE GOTTA PUBLISH IT IN.
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT IS, IF YOU GO AROUND AND LOOK AT HOUSES THAT GET THE NEWSPAPER NOWADAYS IS NOT THAT MANY.
WE, WE ASKED THAT QUESTION AT, AT THE, THE BUDGET FORM LAST YEAR.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE SHOW OF HANDS.
WHO, WHO'S EVER LOOKED AT AN AGENDA? THE NEWSPAPER.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF, YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF A NEWSPAPER NOW IT BE THAT THICK.
AND NOW IT'S LIKE, I MEAN THE PRICE ITSELF FOR A CUSTOMER TO HAVE THE PAPER DELIVERED AT ALL'S ABOUT 12 TO $1,300 A YEAR.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE OTHER NIGHT.
IT'S IN THE THOUSANDS OF SUBSCRIPTION TO THE DAILY PRICE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S DROPPED OFF SO MUCH.
SO WE'LL LEAVE THIS ALONE AND THEN WE'RE DOWN TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND TOURISM COUNTY SEEKS TO SUPPORT GENERAL ASSEMBLY
YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE WHITE AND VESSEL OR JUST ANY VESSEL? I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPECIFIC FOR GOD MISSILE CRUISES.
DESTROYER SHOULD BE, IT NEEDS TO BE A SHIP OF THE LINE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A BATTLESHIP OR AIRCRAFT CARRIER.
WELL, I HEARD THE PRESIDENT WAS INTERESTED IN RE RECLASSING THE AIRCRAFT GOT THE, UH, BATTLESHIPS.
BUT THEY THEY REMAIN UP TO STATES.
BUT WELL, WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE ASKED IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ATTACH TO THE LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE WHEN WE GIVE IT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES.
SO I HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
I JUST, WE HAVE A CHOICE LIKE THAT NAME AFTER A FIGHTING VESSEL.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING, THE WAY IT GOES, BECAUSE I MEAN, ANYBODY, EVEN, EVEN THE TRANSPORT SOME, EVEN THE TRANSPORT SHIPS CONSIDERED A FIGHTING VESSEL BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE, STANDING RIGHT UP NEXT TO AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER WHEN IT, IT'S ALL POLLUTING STUFF.
SO YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL OF THAT.
IT'S, I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY HERE VERY RECENTLY, AND RIGHT NOW SUBMARINES ARE BEING NAMED AFTER LOCALITIES.
I WOULD LOVE A SUBMARINE NAMED NOT DESTROYERS OR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
IT'S SUBMARINES RIGHT NOW BEING NAMED LIKE A SUBMARINE AFTER LOCALITIES.
SO THERE'S A CATEGORY RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THEY NAME THE SHIPS AND THAT'S THE WAY IT FALLS AT THIS MOMENT.
IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS TODAY.
BUT YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE TIME OF NAMING THE SHIP AND LAUNCHING THE SHIP, THERE'S A VERY LONG TIME FRAME IN THERE.
BUT, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NAME THE SHE.
SO DO WE WANT, SAY ASK FOR SOME AND I'D LOVE TO BE THERE FOR THE COMMISSION.
USS YORKTOWN'S GOT A TREMENDOUS HISTORY SURPRISING.
LET IT GOES SO LONG WITHOUT ADDING A NEW ONE.
AND THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT, NOT TO, UH, DISRESPECT CARGO VESSELS AND FUEL FUELERS AND SO FORTH.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS IS A BATTLEFIELD HERE, SO THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, KIND OF WANNA MATCH UP.
SO HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO WORD THIS? HE DIFFERENTLY? WELL, I'M JUST GONNA, HE'S, I, YEAH, I TALKED TO ROB WHITMAN ABOUT THIS AND HE, HE SAID WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS.
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LIKE, LIKE SUBMARINE SPECIFIC OR NOT NECESSARILY OKAY.BUT BATTLE READY, HOWEVER WE CAN WORD THAT.
WHY DON'T YOU FIND OUT THE CLASSIFICATION OF A SHIP THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE NATIVES CLASSIFY ANYMORE.
USE THE SHIP OF THE LINE IS GONNA SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE BACK TO 1778
SO I MEAN, ONCE YOU GET, IF YOU WANNA PUT A TERM IN THERE, LET'S GET A REAL TERM THAT'S CURRENT WITH THE NAVY.
I'M SURE THAT, THAT THE COMMANDER AT THE NAVAL WEAPON STATION OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT COULD GIVE YOU A NAME.
UH, I ACTUALLY, I THINK CAPTAIN PATRICK IS WHERE I HEARD THAT, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, I THINK WE WENT AND HAD LUNCH THAT DAY.
WE DID MENTION HE DID MENTION IT TO HIM.
THE NEXT ONE IS UNFUNDED MANDATES.
I, I I THINK THAT IS VERY NICE, BUT I THINK I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE UNDERLINE CONTINUES.
MAYBE WE OUGHT TO MAKE THAT IN A ALL CAPS.
WELL, THEY STUCK A COUPLE OF THESE MANDATES IN ON US WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
AND, AND THEN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED IT BASICALLY BEFORE WE COULD EVEN, COULD EVEN, UH, RESPOND.
I MEAN IT TOOK US THAT LONG JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT'S ON THERE BECAUSE WHAT ARE THEY DOING? 3000 BILLS, UH, A SESSION AND THEN THEY SLIPPED A COUPLE.
THEY SLIPPED ONE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO IT.
AND THEN, THEN WE ENDED UP WITH ANOTHER MANDATE.
SO SERIOUSLY, WE GOT ABOUT 600, I THINK IT'S 660 MANDATES, UNFUNDED MANDATE RIGHT NOW.
I CAN HAVE A BOOK, BUT IT'S A LONG, I MEAN IT'S AN OLD COPY.
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR 20 SO YEARS.
OKAY, SO I GOT AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
SO ACCORDING TO PEARL HARBOR, INFO, NAVY DESIGNATES WARSHIPS AS AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, BATTLESHIPS, CRUISERS AND DESTROYERS.
NOT SUBMARINES, BUT I DON'T SUBMARINES THEY CLASSIFY AS SUPPORT VESSELS, WHICH STRANGE.
BUT YEAH, THEY'RE PART OF THE SUPPORT UNDER THE WATER, RIGHT? SO, WELL THEY MAY HAVE MOVED.
SO MAYBE JUST SAY, WHAT DATE IS THAT CLASSIFICATION? YOU SAY WARSHIPS.
YOU SAY WORSHIP, SAY WARSHIPS OR SUBMARINES.
THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE THROUGH YOUR RUM OF FRIENDS.
MR. DWYER WOULD KNOW IT OR, UH, TODD WOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT THEY, BUT THEY GOT ALL THE NAVY GUYS.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT YOUR ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
THAT'S YOUR HOMEWORK FUNDED MANDATES THAT WE'VE DONE OF THAT ONE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS? HOLD YOUR PIECE, CHANGE IT TO ABOUT SIZE EIGHT FONT SO WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO A REASONABLE NUMBER.
WELL, WE, WE LOOKED AT, WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER LOCALITIES.
WE LOOKED AT ONE OF THE LOCALITY.
AND I BELIEVE THEIR LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE IS OVER A HUNDRED AND SOME PAGES
AND THE QUESTION IS, WHO READS IT? WELL, IT'S NOT, THAT'S, IT'S WHEN YOU GENERAL SOMEBODY TRY TO PRESENT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.
YOU CAN'T BE DEALING WITH 20, 30 PAGES.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT NEED, YOU NEED A, UH, OKAY, GET IN, GET OUT.
YOU WANT ME THE DRIVER? THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
AND WE NOW MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WE HAVE ONE QUICK, LET'S TALK TRASH HERE A MINUTE.
CAN I POSSIBLY MISS BELIEVE HE WAS GONNA JUMP OVER THAT ONE? I WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY WITH IT.
I TRIED TO SLIP IT UNDER THE RUG, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.
[3. Trash and Recycling Update.]
I TELL YOU, THIS IS WHAT I, I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS WORK IS YOU, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE CAT'S GONNA LEAVE ON THE PORCH.AND RECYCLING HAS BEEN THE, THE LATEST THING.
SO IT, UH, IT KEEPS US, UH, ON OUR TOES.
UH, SO THE VIPS, A BOARD VOTED TO, UH, TERMINATE THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING, RECYCLING CONTRACT FROM TFC.
AND HERE ARE THE REASONS THOSE, UH, YORK COUNTY, JAMES CITY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND PCOS WERE ALL AFFECTED BY IT.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S QUESTIONS A VERY RECENT DEVELOPMENT.
WHO MAKES UP THE BOARD? THERE ARE 10 LOCALITIES THAT MAKE UP THE BOARD.
AND, AND JUST LOCALITIES THAT ARE ON THE BOARD, WHO ARE THE VOTING MEMBERS? THE LOCALITIES.
THEY ALL HAVE, UM, DELEGATES TO THE BOARD.
SO WHEN IT CAME UP WITH THIS RECYCLING, ARE ALL 10 OF THE LOCALITIES
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GETTING RECYCLED THROUGH THE VSA? NO.SO, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? SO MY POINT IS, I THINK THIS VSA KIND OF WENT CRAZY ON US.
THEY COULD HAVE DONE, HE COULD HAVE HANDLED THIS A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY DID.
UH, I THINK THIS IS JUST A GROSS OVERREACTION AND ENDED UP WITH US NOT DOING ANY RECYCLING RIGHT NOW AT ALL.
COULD BE ON THE COMPANY'S SIDE, COULD BE ON OUR SIDE, BUT I THINK IT WAS NOT, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATIONS.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO CONVEY THAT ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IS REALLY P****D OFF ABOUT WHAT THEY DID HERE.
BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THIS WAS HANDLED APPROPRIATELY.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT WAS HANDLED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T NEED, WE DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF ACTION.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, I KNOW THEY TALKED TO THIS GUY, THEY TALKED TO A TT WAS TFC, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? THEY TALKED TO FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TRYING TO GET THINGS SQUARED AWAY, BUT GET DOWN THERE REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY WHO WANNA RECYCLE.
I MEAN, WHAT DO WE HAVE? 8,000 HOMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT WAS RIGHT AT 17,000 HOUSEHOLD, 65% OF THE RESIDENTS.
AND IT WAS HARDLY, IT'S RECYCLING.
IT COST US WHAT, $1.3 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE CONTRACT.
AND SO THERE WAS SOME HICCUPS GOING ON IN THERE.
SO GARBAGE CAN GOT TURNED OVER.
I MEAN, I MEAN IT'S, THOSE ARE RELATIVELY MINOR ISSUES.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE, IT'S GOTTA BE.
IF THEY WERE, IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY GROSSLY STEALING FROM US, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DIDN'T, THAT WASN'T MY PERCEPTION.
I THINK THE MANAGEMENT OF HOW YOU, HOW YOU KEEP THESE RECORDS WAS NEVER, I CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD, WOULD NEVER CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD AND STATED IN THE CONTRACT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS EVEN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHO, WHO COLLECTS THE GARBAGE CANS IF THEY, OR THE, THEY RECYCLE CANS.
SO THIS WAS, THIS WAS JUST TOTALLY HANDLED INAPPROPRIATE.
I, IT JUST WAS HANDLED IN A ROUGH, UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER.
I THOUGHT, OKAY, THIS WAS NOT THE WAY TO DO THIS.
SO I KNOW WE'RE NOW STUCK WITH IT.
'CAUSE THIS CONTRACT'S BEEN CANCELED.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THIS COULD HAVE HANDLED, BEEN HANDLED A LOT BETTER.
THAT BEING SAID, GOING BACK TO OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN MARCH, MARCH, THERE WERE CLEAR DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE AMOUNT THAT WAS BEING COLLECTED AND WHAT WE WERE BEING CHARGED FOR.
THERE, THERE IS A FINANCIAL ISSUE YES.
AT THE ROOT OF WHY, WHY WE FACE THIS PROBLEM TODAY.
WAS THAT SUFFICIENTLY CLARIFIED AND DEALT WITH? I'M NOT SURE.
WELL, THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT, THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS, AND I'M NOT JUST DOING THIS OFF OF, UH, THE, THE POINT TO ME IS WE PICK UP 400 TONS A MONTH, ROUGHLY OF 350 TO 400 TONS A MONTH AND RECYCLED PRODUCTS.
AND I MEAN, IT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET PEOPLE IN THE HABIT OF RECYCLING.
AND THERE WERE THINGS IN HERE THAT, THAT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HANDLE IT DIFFERENTLY.
THE MONEY PART WE KNOW IS AN ISSUE.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
WHEN CHINA QUIT TAKING ALL THE GARBAGE IN THE UNITED STATES, 60% OF THE RECYCLING BUSINESS FOLDED.
AND SO THEN IT BECAME A STRUGGLE TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO CREATE, CONTINUE TO RECYCLE.
AND IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO RECYCLE, WE'RE GONNA EITHER HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE WORKING FOR FREE.
AND THE TECHNOLOGY'S CHANGING AND ALL THAT STUFF IS IN THERE.
SO YES, THAT'S TO ME IS THE ONE ISSUE, IS THE FINANCIAL PIECE.
THAT, THAT TO ME WAS THE ONE ISSUE, AND I STILL CAN'T CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS, THE AUDITS DON'T MAKE SENSE.
WHO IN THE HELL'S RUNNING THE AUDITS? THERE'D BE HOW CAN YOU, HOW CAN WE GO UP IN ARMS OVER THIS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR NUM? WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S BEING DONE.
I MEAN, WE THINK WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT IT, IT APPEARS THERE'S TOO MANY GAPS IN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF HOW THE, HOW THE THINGS ARE BEING WEIGHED WHEN THEY'RE BEING WEIGHED.
I MEAN, TANKS HAVE, WHAT IS IT THEY GOT? THE TRUCKS ARE SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP WITH FULL GAS TANKS AND, AND, AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
IT DIDN'T MAKE, SOME OF, IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
WELL, NOW ON TOP OF THAT, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT JAMES CITY COUNTY HAS ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH TFC AT A RATE LOWER THAN WHAT THEY WERE BEING CHARGED THROUGH VSA.
NOW YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE MM-HMM
THAT IT WOULD BE CHEAPER THROUGH CHEAPER THROUGH VSA, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY CHEAPER INDEPENDENTLY.
SO, SO THAT'S GOT ME SCRATCHED MY HEAD.
WHY WOULD WE, WHY WAS THE COST SO MUCH GOING THROUGH VSA? AND THAT SEEMS LIKE ANOTHER MISMANAGEMENT OKAY.
ISSUE OR AN UN AT LEAST IT WASN'T UNDERSTOOD BY US.
IT MAKES, I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING BATTLE.
I'VE MADE MY POINT YET BECAUSE I STRANGLED, I HAVEN'T STRANGLED ANYBODY YET.
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WE FOUGHT OVER THIS CLOSEI REMEMBER WE, WE HAD A, WE HAD TO COME IN ON A SATURDAY TO WORK UP A MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT TO DO THIS.
REMEMBER, REMEMBER WE, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS BIG BATTLE AND WE HAD TO BATTLE WITH COUNTY WASTE AND ALL THIS OTHER CRAP.
SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM, BUT ISSUE WAS THAT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY WANT TO RECYCLE.
SO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND IT WAS OPTIONAL.
SO ANYWAY, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THE WAY THIS THING WAS HANDLED AND NOW WE GOTTA LIVE WITH IT AND, UM, HOPEFULLY IT GETS UP TO SQUARED AWAY.
MARK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
SO, UH, JUST AS A, UM, OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDE.
SO WE DID SEND DIRECT MAILERS TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD THAT SUBSCRIBES IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT ENGAGED WITH THEIR ELECTRONIC MEDIA.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING WHATEVER ON THEIR PHONES OR HAVE SMART TVS, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.
WE HAVE, UH, USED ALL THE LOCAL MEDIA.
WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UH, VIDEO MESSAGING.
I DID A VIDEO MESSAGE AND THEN, UH, WE HAD A RECYCLING HOTLINE.
MR. HALL OFFERED TO STAND UP A PHONE LINE FOR, UH, RESIDENTS TO CALL AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO AN ACTUAL PERSON.
SO, UH, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THAT, WE TAKE ABOUT 50 CALLS A DAY AND MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE VERY REASONABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEIR BIG QUESTIONS ARE, UH, AM I GONNA GET A BILL SINCE I DIDN'T GET RECYCLING OR THEY DIDN'T PICK UP MY RECYCLING AND EMPTY IT AS TRASH? WHAT'S GOING ON? SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE TYPICALLY GOTTEN.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY VERY APPRECIATIVE TO THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE ON THIS TERRY'S FOLKS AS WELL.
SO IT IS BEEN A BIG LIFT TO, TO HANDLE 17,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
THAT'S STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT.
I GOT A CALL WITH A DAY ON IT.
I MEAN, WE PUT OUT THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS AND CONTACTS WE GET ARE CONTAINED.
SO, BUT MOST PEOPLE LIKE SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY, SO THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO.
SO WHAT SHOULD OUR RESIDENTS BE DOING NOW? SO THEY SHOULD KEEP PUTTING OUT THEIR RECYCLING CONTAINERS UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH.
UH, THEY WILL BE PICKED UP, BUT I WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR.
THEY'RE NOT BEING PICKED UP AS RECYCLING.
SO AFTER THE 31ST, WE HAVE NO CURBSIDE RECYCLING.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE SUBSCRIBERS TO RECYCLING SERVICE, TAKE THE CANS AND HOLD ON TO THEM.
WE WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.
AFTER OCTOBER 31ST, I THOUGHT OCTOBER THE, RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE RECYCLING STARTING THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.
BUT WE'RE PICKING IT UP AS TRASH.
IT SAYS NO CURBSIDE RECYCLING COLLECTION AFTER OCTOBER 31ST.
THEY'RE DOING IT NOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT, NOT RECYCLING IT.
AND MY HOUSE IS STILL RECYCLING
'CAUSE I KEEP SEPARATING IT BECAUSE I'M USED TO IT.
I I JUST DON'T WANNA STINKING UP THE CAN.
I LOOK OUTTA A BOWL AND YOU OKAY.
SO WE WANT THE REST OF US TO HOLD ONTO THE CANS.
WE, WE EXPECT THAT RECYCLING WILL BE BACK, UH, IN SHORT ORDER.
UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT THIS MOMENT, WE DO NOT EXACTLY KNOW, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
MR. FULLER WAS AT A BIPSA MEETING TODAY WHERE THERE WAS AN OFFER TO DO RECYCLING, UH, FROM REPUBLIC, BUT THEY WERE ONLY WILLING TO DO IT IF THEY GOT ALL FOUR LOCALITIES.
SO THERE'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
THEY DID NOT MAKE A DECISION TODAY, BUT THEY'RE GONNA MEET AGAIN EARLY NEXT WEEK AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE REAL ISSUE IS IT GOES OUT TO BID.
WE HAVE A BID OUT RIGHT NOW FOR TRASH, UH, CURBSIDE TRASH SERVICE AND AN OPTION TO DO RECYCLING.
IT'S LIKE FOR LOCALITIES? NO PUBLIC THE SAME THAT WE'RE INVOLVED HERE.
JAMES CITY, YOU JUST SAID THEY ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE EMERGENCY CONTRACTS READING ABOUT IN THE PAPER.
THAT THESE OTHER LOCALITIES ARE, ARE TRYING TO
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GET, THESE ARE NOT PERMANENT OR LEASE TO THEIR PROBLEMS. STOP GAP.I THINK KOSIN WAS A TWO MONTH CONTRACT, CORRECT? RIGHT.
THEY ALWAYS DID THEIR DIFFERENTLY.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT? AT WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING AT IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP INTO THAT AND THEN TURN OUT THAT WE HAVE A LONG TERM SOLUTION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IN SHORT ORDER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
AND WE BELIEVE WE WILL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT MIDWEEK NEXT WEEK.
I THINK IT'D BE QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT THEN.
WELL, I DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE PICKING IT UP.
I SAID I THINK WE'LL KNOW THE
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.
BUT THIS COULD TAKE INTO JANUARY.
THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS FOR THESE COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP THE TRUCKS AND THE DRIVERS TO RUN THE ROUTES.
BUT THEY'RE NOT USED TO RUNNING.
SO WHAT WE DO WANNA TELL YOU, THIS LAST BULLET HERE IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE DIEHARD RECYCLERS, YOU CAN STILL RECYCLE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO PUT IT IN A CAR AND BRING IT TO US.
AT THE, AT THE TOP IT SAID RECYCLING WILL CONTINUE THROUGH OCTOBER.
IS IT ONLY ON THE RECYCLE DAYS THAT THEY PICK IT UP AS TRASH? NO, THEY'LL PICK IT UP ON THE TRASH DAY.
WELL, IT WAS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A TRANSITION ISSUE.
WE WERE A LITTLE BEHIND, SO WE WERE PUTTING THOSE MESSAGES OUT.
SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
PUBLIC WORKS, JUST DOING A DILIGENT JOB WORKING THROUGH THAT, TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THE FOLKS.
UH, WE TOLD, WE, WE ASKED PEOPLE TO JUST KEEP THE BIN OUT THERE UNTIL IT'S EMPTIED BECAUSE TAKING ON THAT MUCH ADDITIONAL, UM, WAS A LOT.
AND REPUBLIC WAS DOING THAT FOR US, SO.
'CAUSE I DID SEE BINS THAT WERE FULL LAST WEEK.
LIKE MINE GETS PICKED UP, MY TRASH GETS PICKED UP ON THURSDAY AND RECYCLE ON FRIDAY.
SO I PUT MY RECYCLE OUT ON THURSDAY WITH THE TRASH.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY IT SHOULD HAPPEN.
MY AREA WAS, AND THEY, THEY TOOK, THEY TOOK MY, THEY TOOK BOTH OF 'EM MONDAY AND TUESDAY.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS WORD.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT REAL RECYCLING.
YOU CAN BRING IT TO GOODWIN NECK AND DROP IT OFF.
AND MR. SHEPHERD, YOU CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND ASKED ME A QUESTION AND I WANT TO BE, I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER ALREADY, BUT FOR, FOR WHOEVER HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING TONIGHT, THE REST OF THE BOARD, YOU SAID AT THE RECYCLING CENTER, CAN THEY TAKE THE SAME MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE PICKED UP WITH THE TRUCK? THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO CORRUGATED CARDBOARD, PAPER, THOSE KIND OF ITEMS THAT GET PICKED UP CAN ALL BE TAKEN AT OUR RECYCLING CENTERS.
IN ADDITION TO THE, OUR RECYCLING CENTER HERE IN THE LOWER PART OF THE COUNTY ON GWIN NECK ROAD, JAMES CITY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO OFFER US TWO RECYCLING LOCATIONS, UH, IN THE UPPER END OF THE COUNTY.
THE ONE THAT JOLLY POND CONVENIENCE CENTER, AND THEN THE TONO CONVENIENCE CENTER AS WELL.
SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO MR. STEVENS AND HIS, UH, WILLINGNESS TO HELP US OUT.
SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BRING IT TO THE CENTER, THEY CAN'T JUST DROP IT OFF IN BAGS.
LIKE IF YOU DO LIKE, UH, CANS, WE GOTTA PUT IT IN THOSE DUMPSTERS SEPARATE.
PEOPLE WANNA BRING IN, THEY BRING, PUT A CAR, A BAG OF OR BAG OF CANS DRIPPING ALL IN THE CAR AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY MAY GET IT THERE, BUT THEY GOTTA DUMP IT OUT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I, THEY INDICATED TO ME WHEN THE RECYCLING OH, OKAY.
SO, SO I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE TUNING ROAD FACILITY, WHICH IS ALSO PART OF JCC IS, IS WILLING, IS WILLING TO TAKE RECYCLE FROM YORK COUNTY RESIDENCE WITH ID.
AND I HAVE BEEN THE PAST WEEK, DROPPED MATERIAL OFF THERE.
APPRECIATE JAMES CITY COUNTY WORK WITH US ON THIS.
SO IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL SITE BESIDES THE TWO THAT I JUST MENTIONED? YEAH.
WHAT WAS THE SITE THAT YOU MENTIONED? IT'S TUNING ROAD.
IT'S RIGHT WHERE THEIR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, FACILITIES ARE BY EASTERN STATE.
SO WHEN WE, SO THIS, IS THIS OURS OR JUST VSA? WHEN WE DO, WHEN YOU SAY YOU BRING IT OVER THERE, DUMP IT, THIS, THAT'S V'S.
SO WHAT IS VSA ACTUALLY DOING WITH THIS STUFF? THIS
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THAT BRINGS, THAT IS BEING BROUGHT TO THE RECYCLING CENTER IS GOING TO RECYCLING.IT'S NOT WHEREVER THEY TAKE IT FOR THE MURPH TO SEPARATE IT ALL OUT GOES TO CHESAPEAKE.
THAT'S CHESAPEAKE AT, AT THIS POINT.
IT WOULD PROBABLY END UP IN CHESTERFIELD UP IN RICHMOND.
WELL, CHESTERFIELD, YOU GOTTA WONDER.
SO YOU, YOU WERE SAYING THAT IF PEOPLE WERE TO DROP IT OFF, THEY'D HAVE TO SEPARATE EVERYTHING OUT? YEAH.
THEY GET PUT 'EM IN THE RIGHT, IN THE RIGHT BINS AND SO FORTH.
CARDBOARD GOES IN ONE PLACE AND PLASTIC BOTTLES GO IN ANOTHER AND GLASS BOTTLES GO IN ANOTHER.
DON'T DUMP YOUR GARBAGE IN THERE.
THAT'LL, THAT'LL NO TRASH BAGS.
SO OBVIOUSLY WITH NO RECYCLING, WE DO EXPECT EXTRA TRASH AND THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE FOR SOME FAMILIES.
BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
YOU COULD BRING YOUR OVERFLOW TRASH IF YOU'RE A SUBSCRIBER TO OUR TRASH SERVICE, YOU CAN BRING YOUR OVERFLOW TRASH TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER AND DROP IT OFF NO CHARGE.
IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT AN EXTRA TRASH CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
AND WE WILL BRING YOU AN EXTRA CONTAINER.
IT'S $13 A MONTH, BUT PLEASE DON'T START AFTER THE 31ST OF OCTOBER.
DO NOT PUT TRASH AND YOUR RECYCLING CONTAINER.
'CAUSE IT WILL NOT BE PICKED UP.
GETTI, IT'S GONNA, OKAY, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS SOMEBODY'S NOT PICKING UP RECYCLING.
SO WHY WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE OVERFLOW TRASH IN THIS? BECAUSE THEIR RECYCLING GOES IN THE TRASH NOW.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY CAN STILL PUT IN THE RECYCLING BIN.
WELL IF THEIR CAN'S EMPTY RIGHT NOW AND THEY DON'T WANNA TAKE THE CHANCE OF GETTING CAUGHT WITH IT IN THE CAN AND NOT BE EMPTY, THEY'RE THROWING IT ALL IN THE TRASH.
THE VALUE IN THIS IS THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP, IF YOU BRING IT INTO THE GARAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU DON'T WANT IT SMELLING LIKE AN OUTHOUSE.
SO, SO DON'T PUT YOUR GARBAGE IN THERE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING DON'T PUT GARBAGE IN UNLESS YOU WANNA SCRUB IT OUT.
PUT YOUR RECYCLING MAYBE IN THERE, BUT, 'CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
MR. RON, WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION HERE? WELL, I JUST DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT POPPING PEOPLE EXTRA $13 A MONTH IF THEY NEED EXTRA.
WELL THEY, WELL FIPS IS KIND IS 'CAUSE THEY JUST YANKED THAT, YANK THE RECYCLING AWAY FROM 'EM.
AND NOW, NOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT NO MORE THAN WE WERE.
UM, SO IF THEY, IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN AN OVERFLOW SITUATION BECAUSE OF THAT, I DON'T LIKE, THE OPTION IS WE'LL JUST PAY MORE MONEY.
UM, I MEAN IS THERE AN OPTION OF, AND AND I KNOW THE ISSUE IS IF YOU DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING, THEN EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT AN EXTRA BIN AND YOU HAVE TO CHASE THAT.
SO, UM, WELL, WELL THE QUESTION IS, WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS AN EXTRA BIN, REGARDLESS WHEN THIS, BEFORE THIS EVER HAPPENED, DO THEY HAVE STUFF TO PAY FOR? YES.
SO LEMME ASK A QUESTION ON THIS.
UH, UM, WHY ARE WE STOPPING PEOPLE FROM PUTTING THE RECYCLE IN THE RECYCLE BINS AFTER OCTOBER 31ST? 'CAUSE UNTIL WE RESUME RECYCLING PROGRAM, IT WILL NOT BE EMPTIED AFTER 31ST.
BECAUSE REPUBLIC WON'T PICK IT WON'T PICK UP.
OUR DEAL WITH THEM IS ONLY FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER TO GET RECYCLING CANS CLEARED.
OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY, I WOULD THINK FOR THE, FOR THE STUFF TO BE HAULED OUT OF THE GARBAGE BECAUSE IT'S, UH, REMEMBER IT IS LIKE, WHAT WOULD THEY CHARGE? A 48? 40, $50 A TON.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR GARBAGE.
IT'S LIKE $47 A TON TO THROW IT IN GARBAGE.
SO THEY STILL, THEY GOTTA, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S SUCK.
I GUESS THEY'RE SUCKING IT UP 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING 'EM THE EXTRA MONEY RIGHT NOW.
THEY JUST, THEY'RE JUST BEING KIND AND PICKING UP THE, THE GARBAGE IN THE RECYCLE AND ALL THE RECYCLED STUFF.
AND WE AGREED, I THINK TO PAY THEM $7 A CAN OR $5 A CAN $5 IT UP CAN.
SO WE GOT 17,000 CANS OUT THERE,
CITY COUNTY'S GOT 25,000 CANS.
IT'S NOT AN EASY ISSUE IS IT? NO, IT IS, IT IS NOT.
BUT I'M HOPEFUL, UH, THAT WE WILL BE THROUGH IT IN SHORT ORDER.
UM, A COUPLE, ONE, ONE LAST THING I DO, I DO WANT TO COVER BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION.
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I FORGET TO SAY THIS, MR. RONE, I KNOW YOU'LL BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS, BUT ONCE WE STARTED TAKING CALLS, WE PUT ALL THE CALLS TOGETHER AND USED AI TO DO THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.SO THEY GET TUNED UP EVERY OTHER DAY OR SO BASED ON THE CALLS THAT WE GOT IN THE PREVIOUS DAYS.
SO I KNOW YOU YOU'D BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT VOICE.
I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR REPLACE.
SO BECAUSE WE BILL IN ARREARS, THE NOVEMBER BILL COVERS SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.
AND SINCE ALL OF THIS HAPPENED BEFORE THE BILL COMES OUT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE THE CREDIT FOR THE RECYCLING SERVICE.
SO NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO THE NEXT STEPS, SO WE ARE TALKING TO VSA.
THAT'S WHAT MR. FULLER WAS THERE FOR TODAY.
THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON AN OPTION.
WE ARE, WE ARE WELL THROUGH THIS.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT IN, IN PROGRESS NOW WHERE WE EXPECT, UH, THE PROPOSALS TO BE BACK AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.
WE'LL NEED A COUPLE DAYS TO EVALUATE AND SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE, UH, WHAT WE GOT BACK AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THOSE PROPOSALS.
AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY IS THE RESIDENT SUPPORT.
THIS RECYCLING PROGRAM DOES NOT WORK UNLESS THEY'RE BEHIND IT.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT BASED ON THE RECYCLING, 65% OF, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT TAKE OUR SERVICES ARE DOING RECYCLING.
AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE FLASH BOAT WORK THAT, THAT, UH, MR. WYATT DID AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEY, YOU CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE WANNA RECYCLE.
SO, UH, THAT IS, THAT IS A BIG THREAD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO WE ARE VERY DRIVEN TO GET THIS BACK ONLINE.
SO, SO WE HAD FOUR, FOUR COMMUNITIES UNDER US THIS CONTRACT.
UNDER THE VSA CONTRACT? YES, SIR.
THERE 10 MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD.
I, I, THE OTHER MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN VOTING ON THIS.
WELL, WHY DID THEY DO IT? WHY DID THEY DO THAT? WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST GIVE IT TO THE FOUR MEMBERS TO VOTE ON IT? BUT THEY'RE GONNA YANK THIS UNDERNEATH, BUT YANK THIS RUG GUNS FROM UNDERNEATH, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE FIVE.
WELL, THEY HAVE SIMILAR RULES.
YOU PICK ABOUT QUORUMS. WELL, VSA I MEAN, THE OTHER SIDE OVER THERE DOESN'T ALLOW ALL THE PDC TO VOTE FOR, UH, FOR THE SOUTH SIDE.
THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE AN ISSUE COMES UP AND, UH, THE, THE HR PDC, THEY DON'T ALLOW THE OTHER, THEY'LL ALLOW YOUR COUNTY TO VOTE ON THEIR, ON THEIR GARBAGE COLLECTION OVER THERE OR THEIR CONTRACTS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO VOTE FOR MATTHEWS? SEE WHAT THEY I I'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING WHOEVER GOES OVER THERE AND GETS IN HIS S OF STUFF.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN, YOU KNOW, SO MR. EXPLAINING TO DO MR. FULLER, UH, SINCE THIS HAS ALL COME UP, UH, SINCE IT GOT SOME URGENCY TO IT, MR. FULLER HAS BEEN, EITHER HE OR I HAVE BEEN AT ALL THE MEETINGS.
UH, MR. KRIEGER IS ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AS WELL AND WE ARE REGULARLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE GOING FORWARD.
SO I I THINK WE'LL, I I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID.
UM, I THINK GOING FORWARD, LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT IN THE NEAR TERM WE'LL HAVE SOME RESOLUTION AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ON THAT.
AND, AND THE OTHER MEMBER JURISDICTIONS THAT DON'T RECYCLE DID DEFER TO THE FOUR LOCALITIES THAT IT AFFECTED TO TO MAKE DECISIONS.
SO OUR FOUR, OUR FOUR DECIDED TO DO THIS, OUR FOUR AND HAD THE BACKING OF THE OTHER SIX.
BUT I, AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IT, TWO OF 'EM WOULDN'T HAVE, WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED THIS.
UH, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE VOTE WENT.
WELL, EVIDENTLY, I'M WONDERING WHO VOTED FOR US WHO VOTED THAT DAY.
TAKE THEM OUTSIDE AND THAT WAS START VOTING FIRST TIME
SO, SO A COUPLE, COUPLE THINGS.
UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN THE VSA BOARD? WOULD YOU LIKE
THE, UH, TRASH PICKUP FOR YORK COUNTY IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND REPUBLIC, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO THAT, THAT'S NOT THROUGH VSA THAT WE THAT IS CORRECT.
WE, WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN DESTINY THERE.
SO, AND I KNOW A BIG PART OF THE FINAL DECISION FOR RECYCLING WILL BE BASED UPON COST.
BUT PLEASE CONSIDER OUR ABILITY TO, TO MAINTAIN OUR OWN DESTINY THERE TOO AND NOT DEFER AGREED.
MAKE SURE THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE DECISION AS WELL.
THAT, THAT THAT IS A CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
AND I THINK YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST WEEK YEP.
IS, UH, WHAT IS THAT WORTH TO US? RIGHT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WE ADDED THAT AS AN OPTION IN, IN THE,
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UH, THE TRASH COLLECTION BID THAT WENT OUT TO HAVE THAT OPTION.JUST TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS THERE'S LANDMINES AND THEN THERE'S LANDMINES.
HAVE WE EXHAUSTED THIS TOPIC PERHAPS? NO.
I WANNA TALK ABOUT A COUPLE MORE HOURS.
HE, HE WANTS KEEP TRASH TALKING.
YOU WANNA KEEP GOING, BUT I'M SORRY.
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ALL.I THINK THE NEXT TOPIC WOULD BE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND THE OTHER ONE IS REQUEST FOR REFUND OF BUSINESS LICENSE TAX.
DEFENSE CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
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AND NOW, DOUG, DO YOU THINK DISCUSSION? OH, DISCUSSION.I THOUGHT WE'D HAD ENOUGH DISCUSSION.
I'M ONLY GETTING NO, I'M ONLY, I'M ONLY KIDDING.
ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY? I DO.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START, PLEASE? I WILL.
I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T START WITH FAMILY.
BORN ABOUT FIVE 30 THIS AFTERNOON, SO WHOA.
NUMBER TWO, UM, MARK TWO, UM, TWO, UM, MEMOS ISSUED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN OUR INFO FOLDER.
UM, MOST RECENTLY I I I WANTED TO DISCUSS BOTH OF THEM.
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS CAME UP BECAUSE WE WERE PROBABLY SEEING, UM, USE OF THE LIBRARY CHARGING STATIONS AT NIGHTTIME WHEN THOSE PARKING LOTS SHOULD BE CLOSED.
UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMPLETE LIST, WE ALSO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AT THE, THE COURTHOUSE AND FINANCIAL BUILDING AND ALSO AT, UM, UH, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING.
AND IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE ACTION AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD TO, UH, TO RESTRICT, UH, THOSE CHARGING UNITS FROM WORKING IN THE EVENINGS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING IT AT THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS AS WELL.
SO THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST MOVING THE PROBLEM FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT THE REASON THEY HAD TO PAY WITH SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT, THAT ONCE WE INSTALLED IT WE HAD TO LEAVE 'EM ON OR SOMETHING.
YOU CAN LEAVE 'EM ON ALL DAY LONG.
I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN IT WAS SOME RESTRICTION.
BUT I MEAN, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF THE, THE KIDS THEY GAVE IT, THEY GAVE US THE, THE, UH, THE THE TURNING STATION.
SOME OF THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HAD EVER MEANT THAT SOMEBODY COULD JUST PARK THERE FOR 8, 10, 12 HOURS.
SO, WELL THAT'S THE, WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR PROBABLY THE LIBRARY IS THE, IS THE PLACE WHERE IT'S TAVEN YORK LIBRARY.
IT'S THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING.
AND IT'S THE COURTHOUSE COURTHOUSE COURTHOUSE FINANCE BUILDING.
MANY OF THE OTHERS ARE IN PARKING LOTS THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE AFTER HOURS OR BEHIND A FENCE ONCE THE SURE.
SO MR. ROY IS ACCURATE ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THOSE PLACES WOULD BE STILL OPEN.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO SOME WORK ON THAT.
I'LL ASK MR. FULLER'S DOING THIS AND, AND, UH, I'LL ASK HIM TO FOLLOW UP ON THOSE TWO LOCATIONS TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY USING THEM AFTER HOURS AT THE COURTHOUSE IN THE OTHER LOCATION.
AND HOW MUCH IS BEING ABUSED? WELL, IT'S BEING ABUSED IN THE LIBRARY'S.
I JUST DON'T WANT MOVE THE LIBRARY IS THE ONE THAT I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE LIBRARY'S BEING ABUSED.
ALWAYS GET, GET CALLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? THE COUNTY'S PAYING THE BILL, RIGHT? YEP.
SO, SO WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS SO THAT EITHER SHUT OFF OR, OR START CHARGING EVERY TIME YOU HOOKED UP TO IT.
I THINK THE, THE QUICKEST, EASIEST WAY TO FIX IT IS IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CARD READER, YOU SHUT 'EM DOWN.
THEY DON'T HAVE A WHAT CARD READER THAT PEOPLE CAN COME UP AND SWIPE THEIR CARD.
HOW MUCH IS GONNA COST TO PUT ONE OF THOSE READERS ON? NO, I'M SAYING IF THERE'S NOT A READER ON THERE, YOU JUST, YOU SHUT IT DOWN.
NO, THERE'S, WE'VE GOT CARD READERS ON SOME OF 'EM, CORRECT? NO, WE, SOME OF 'EM HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE SOFTWARE OR I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD, THEY'RE NOT SET UP TO CHARGE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE NEWER ONES HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT WE HAVE NOT ENACTED THAT ON THEM.
WELL, LET'S TAKE ONE STEP AT A TIME.
I THINK FIRST OF ALL, HAVE STAFF LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS
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AND SEE HOW THEY'RE BEING USED AND WHETHER THEY'RE BEING ABUSED.THE LIBRARY I CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT OUT WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH ALL THE TIME.
IT'S EASY PLACE FOR THEM TO COME IN AND TIE UP IF YOU WILL.
UH, AND I THINK THE IDEA OF THE FACT THAT THOSE BE COULD BE USED ONLY DURING THE HOURS THE LIBRARY ARE OPEN.
IS THIS WHERE WE'RE LOOK LOOKING AT IT OR SAY 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AT ATTACKS OFF AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR WHATEVER TIMEFRAME YOU DECIDE, OKAY, HERE'S MY ISSUE.
MY ISSUE IS WE'RE SUPPLYING FREE ELECTRICAL FOR PEOPLE WITH EVS.
AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE EVS DON'T GET THAT SAME PRIVILEGE.
AND IT'S UNEQUITABLE AND I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM GONE.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM AT WAWA OR WHEREVER ELSE PEOPLE CAN GO UP, PUT THEIR CARD IN.
JUST LIKE WHEN I GO HOME, I PAY FOR MY FUEL.
WELL, I UN I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT ON THAT AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING TAKING ONE STEP.
I THINK THERE'S A DEEPER, DEEPER ISSUE.
ONE STEP AT A TIME AND WE'LL ULTIMATELY DECIDE WHAT WE'LL DO.
BUT, BUT I, WE NEED TO RESEARCH IT.
WE SHOULD BE MOVED TOWARDS PUTTING CAR, PUTTING WELL OR PUT CARD READERS ON.
I, I KNOW THERE'S A GOOD ARGUMENT ABOUT DO WE, DO WE WANNA COMPETE WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES? AND THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TOO.
BUT ANOTHER STEP ALONG THE WAY SHOULD BE PUT CARD READERS ON THEM.
YOU KNOW, AT LEAST PUT CARD READERS ON 'EM OR GET RID OF THE ONES THAT WE CAN'T PUT CARD READERS ON.
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE EVS THAT HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BUY AN EV.
SO LET'S TAKE THIS AS A TWO STEP PROCESS.
TO PUT A TIME TIMER ON IT NOW SO THAT THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT NIGHTTIME.
UH, AND THEN THAT'S NO COST, I DON'T THINK, RIGHT? THAT IT'S LOW COST.
I WOULD SAY IT'S LOW COST COST ENVIRONMENTALLY THEY'RE A GOOD THING.
SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THAT EITHER.
GET A GAS GUY GOING ON THAT QUESTION.
THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GENERATING THAT POWER.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WISH TO DISCUSS? I HAD ONE MORE.
IT WAS A BARLOW PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, AND THIS ONE BOTHERS ME BECAUSE WE UM, WE BASICALLY PUT IN FENTON MILL FACILITY, 300 HOMES.
AND THEY'RE NOW TYING INTO THE, THE SEWER SYSTEM AND THE PUMP STATIONS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THAT AREA.
IT'S COSTING US BETWEEN FOUR TO $6 MILLION TO UPGRADE THOSE, UH, PUMP STATIONS.
AND WE DON'T MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AMOUNT IN TAP FEES.
AND SO, UH, MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO BE EQUITABLE OR TO BE WHOLE? WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYER BE PAYING FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO TIE INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
OR IT SHOULD BE IN THE TAP FEES DEVELOP OR WHATEVER THE DEVELOPER PAYS WAS THE CONTRACTOR WAS DOING THIS.
WHY? I MEAN, I DON'T WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ARE.
THE TAP FEES ARE PAID, AREN'T THEY? BECAUSE THE TAP FEE, THERE'S TAX FEE COME CLOSE TO THE PUMP STATION COST.
IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THE WELL THAT THEN WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE TAP FEES.
WELL, THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
END UP ADJUSTING THE TOP FEES WE GOTTA GET, THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN ON BIG BETHEL ROAD ARE GONNA ALREADY, THEY'RE, I MEAN I ALREADY HAD SOME LADY COME UP ASKING HOW AM I GONNA PAY $20,000 FOR EXACTLY, EXACTLY THE POINT I WANTED TO RAISE.
SO WHY ISN'T THERE AT LEAST TWO TIERS OF PAYMENT? ONE FOR A DEVELOPER WHO'S BUILDING A NUMBER OF HOMES AND ONE FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.
I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A TWO TIER SYSTEM OF PAYMENT FOR WHEN WE BUILD THESE, UH, LARGER SUBDIVISIONS.
THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR SERIOUSLY.
WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO HAVE GRANTS THAT CONNECT TO THESE OLD FOLKS.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE USING THAT BELONG TO THE COUNTY.
SO PLEASE POINT, PLEASE HAVE YOUR STAFF GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
DO WE NEED TO ADJUST HALF FEES OR IS THERE A TIER SYSTEM THAT WE CAN PUT IN, SUCH AS THE DEVELOPER IS PAYING HIS FAIR SHARE? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOMETHING? WHO ELSE WANTS TO GO NEXT? I GOT SOMETHING, TOM.
THIS IS, UH, FOR THE, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY INTERESTING ARTICLE.
I DEALT WITH, UH, ERIC PEOPLE HU HUMANS, THE AMERICAN, UH, POPULATION MOVING.
UM, AND UH, I KNOW IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT SHOCKED BY SOME OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS I'VE HEARD THIS KIND OF TWO THINGS I'VE HEARD THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T WANNA LIVE IN, IN HAMPTON ROADS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO MEET.
SO THEY WANT TO GO TO A PLACE WITH SOME ENERGY.
SO THEY TALK ABOUT DC RIGHT? AND THEN WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT YARDS.
YOU KNOW, BUILDERS ARE BUILDING SMALLER HOMES CLOSER TOGETHER AND CHARGING A GAZILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO WE HEAR ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? SO THIS, THIS IS A STUDY THAT CAME OUT, UM, AND, AND IT TALKS ABOUT ECONOMISTS
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ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION IS BECAUSE OF THE MOBILITY MM-HMMAND IN THE UNITED STATES, WE WERE VERY CONSIDERED VERY MOBILE.
IN FACT, OF ALL THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES WERE PROBABLY THE MOST MOBILE.
UM, I WAS SURPRISED THAT SOME OF THE NUMBERS, UM, IN STATE, THERE'S ABOUT 9% OF THE POPULATION MOVES EVERY YEAR IN STATE.
OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME ANYWAY, A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THEN OUTTA STATE, ABOUT 2% A YEAR, MOVE OUT OF THE STATE OKAY.
AND, UM, AND SO THE, THE QUESTION WAS, OKAY, WHY ARE THEY MOVING? UM, AND YOU, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT, IT'S ALL THESE, ANYWAY, THERE WAS JUST A BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, AND THE WAY THEY DESCRIBE THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIGH AMONG THE SURPRISES IS THAT THE FUTURE MAY NOT ACTUALLY BELONG TO WHAT THEY CALL THE COOL CITIES.
OKAY? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I USED ATLANTA, UM, AND IT SAYS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WHAT THEY'RE FINDING NOW IS THAT THE CITIES, AND THIS IS NO SURPRISE, ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.
YOU GO TO THE, YOU GO INTO BOSTON, NEW YORK.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T FIND, YOU KNOW, A PLACE OF, IT'S GONNA BE CHEAP.
AND, UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FIND FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GETTING TOGETHER AND RENTING A HOUSE.
SO IT'S STILL, THE PRICES ARE PRETTY VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND THE REASON I'M BRING THIS UP, BECAUSE LATELY NEWPORT NEWS AND NORFOLK, UH, ARE TWO OF THE, UH, CITIES THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT ARE WANTED TO DEAL, LIKE, GET RID OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR HOUSING.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS THEY BLOCK, YOU KNOW, GET INTO THE APARTMENTS, GET SMALLER HOUSING, MAKE IT AFFORDABLE, IT'S ALL COMES UNDER THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES.
AND THE FIRST THING WHEN I SAW THIS, THE CAME TO MIND WAS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THESE PICTURES, PEOPLE PARKING ON SIDEWALKS AND YOU CAN'T USE THE SIDEWALK, WHICH WE'RE FORCING DEVELOPERS TO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS.
AND, AND I'M GOING, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THIS? BUT THIS WAS A CONCEPT OF GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE GOTTA HAVE OUR WORKFORCE, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE.
RIGHT? WELL, WE NOT, I DON'T THINK WE'VE, WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS IN YOUR COUNTY OVER THE YEARS, AND I'LL USE TAB LAKES AS AN EXAMPLE.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OKAY? AS SOON AS HE BUILT THE HOUSE AND SMITH FARMS, UH, YOU NAME IT, THEY BUILT A HOUSE AND IT'S JUST IS, IT'S SEVEN, $800,000.
SO THE IDEA WAS WHY ARE THE PEOPLE REALLY MOVING HERE? AND, UH, IT SAYS NOT ONLY THE HOUSES WERE OVERLY EXPENSIVE AND THE OVERLY TAXED INSIDE THE CITIES, I MEAN, TAXED INSIDE THE CITIES.
NOT, YOU KNOW, BOSTON, BALTIMORE, BALTIMORE, 20 YEARS AGO, THE REAL ESTATE TAXED IN, IN THE CITY BALTIMORE IS $3 AND 5 CENTS, $3 AND 5 CENTS.
WHAT ARE WE PAYING NOW? ABOUT 97 CENTS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO JUST THINK OF THE DIFFERENCE.
SO YOU, YOU GO, YOU GET A HOUSE, TYPICAL HOUSE, AND YOU GO UP THERE AND BOSTON, UH, OR NEW JERSEY AND YOU'RE PAYING 40 AND $50,000 A YEAR FOR THE TAX, JUST THE TAX ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT.
THAT'S WHAT'S THEY FINDING IS YOU, I DON'T WANNA LIVE THERE.
AND THEN IT'S THE ISSUE OF SAFETY.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU JUST SEE IT.
YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT OREGON AND YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THE BIG CITIES, UH, ST.
SO WHEN THEY DID A SURVEY, THEN THE MARKET SURVEY SHOWED THAT FOUND THAT 41% OF THE MOVERS PREFER THE SUBURBS.
NOW FOR EVERYBODY, YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE'S THERE, THERE'S URBAN, WHICH IS THE CITY.
THE SUBURBS ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT THEY'RE DENSE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL DENSELY POPULATED, BUT NOT AS DENSELY POPULATED.
THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG CATEGORIES.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING IN YOUR COUNTY THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT THE WORD COUNTY AND THE FIRST THING COMES TO MIND ARE COWS AND CHICKENS AND GOATS.
RIGHT? SO WE'RE FARMERS AND IT'S THE RURAL COMMUNITY.
NOW, IT MAY BE MORE RURAL UP THERE, OR IN DISTRICT ONE,
I GUARANTEE IN DISTRICT FIVE IT'S ANY AND DISTRICT, UH, THREE, TWO.
IT'S REALLY, IT'S ANYTHING BUT RURAL.
WE HAVE CHICKENS TOO NEXT DOOR.
BUT IT SAID THAT, THAT 41, HOW ABOUT DUCK? 41% OF PEOPLE FOR SUBURBS, 16%.
THEY WANTED THE SMALL METROPOLITAN AREAS AND 13% LEAN TOWARDS, UH, ONLY LEAN TOWARDS THE LARGE METROPOLITAN AREAS.
AND WITH MOST SURPRISING IS 30%.
WERE SEEKING RURAL LO LOCATIONS.
UM, AND THERE WAS A, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU JUST REAL QUICK.
I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SEE THIS A PICTURE, BUT IN BETWEEN 2010 AND 2013, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD SHOW THIS UP ON THE SCREEN.
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YOU SEE ALL THAT RED, YOU SEE ALL THAT RED OVER HERE? THERE YOU GO.YOU SEE ALL THAT RED? THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE MOVED OUT.
YOU SEE, AND IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE EAST COAST HERE, OH, I GET MY HANDS WORK GOING OVER IN HERE.
ANYWAY, THE RED, I CAN DO IT THIS WAY.
SO ALL THAT RED IN HERE, VIRGINIA'S RIGHT IN THERE.
WHEN YORK COUNTY'S IN THERE, THEY MOVED OUT.
AND WE LOST THE POPULATION BETWEEN THE AGE OF 25.
I THINK IT WAS 25 AND 44, WE LOST POPULATION.
NOW THIS IS WHAT THEY DISCOVERED NOW.
AND THIS IS TWO, UH, 2020 TO 2023.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THE RED'S GONE.
SO NOW YOU GOT THE MIGRATION BACK OVER ENTIRE AREA.
SO NOW WE'RE PICKING UP FOR IN 20, THE 25 TO 44 YEAR OLDS.
AND, UM, AND THE RANKINGS IS THE COST OF LIVING, HOUSING, AFFORDABILITY IS THE FIRST PLACE.
COST OF LIVING AND AFFORDABILITY.
AND YOU GOTTA TELL YOU, ACROSS THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES, YOUR COUNTY'S CONSIDERED VERY AFFORDABLE.
OR NOT SAFETY AND CRIME AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY.
AND DOWN, LET'S SEE, AT THE VERY BOTTOM WAS THE THING, UH, WITH THE POLITICAL AND SOCIAL, VERY BOTTOM, POLITICAL AND SOCIAL.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY THOUGHT THERE WAS THIS BATTLE THAT YOU, YOU ONLY WANNA MOVE INTO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE THINK LIKE YOU.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND UM, WHAT WERE SCHOOLS ON THAT LIST? SCHOOLS, THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE SCHOOLS, BUT IT COMES UNDER THE FAMILY, THAT FAMILY PART.
AND WE KNOW THAT, WE KNOW FROM FIRSTHAND HERE.
WHAT WAS INTERESTING, REALLY INTERESTING THAT GOVERNMENTS, UM, WERE LAYING OUT TONS OF MONEY TO GET BIG BUSINESSES TO COME INTO THEIR AREAS.
PROVIDING ALL THESE INCENTIVES.
SOME OF THESE INCENTIVES WERE UP TO $50,000 A JOB TO GET, GET 'EM TO COME IN.
UM, AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT, AND A GREAT EXAMPLE IS TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
AND WHAT THEY DID, THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THING, BUT NOT USING THAT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT KIND OF MONEY.
THEY WERE DOING LIKE, WELL MAYBE HELP YOU MOVE IN, WELL HELP YOU MOVE.
AND THEY WOULD EVEN GET IN THEIR FOOTBALL TEAMS WOULD COME OVER, DO THE HIGH, THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM WOULD HELP 'EM MOVE INTO THEIR HOUSE.
THESE WERE, THESE WERE THE KIND OF INCENTIVES AS OPPOSED TO THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU GOT A COMPANY THAT'S GONNA COME IN WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED JOBS AND YOU'RE PAYING 'EM $50,000 AS AN INCENTIVE TO HELP THE EMPLOYER BRING THEM IN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD HEARING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORS, AROUND US TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST DENSITY ISSUES AND TRYING TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND JUST GETTING AWAY FROM PARKING SPACES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE MAY END UP WITH SOME BIG BUSINESSES WANT TO COME IN HERE AND THEN WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT KIND OF KIND OF DEALS ARE THEY LOOKING FOR FROM THE COUNTY? AND SOME, I THINK SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE ALL SOLD IT AND GONE IN DEBT AND I DON'T SEE US DOING THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS IS, UM, IT SAYS ONE IS ONE, SEE ONE, ONE STUDY FOUND THAT THE BOOST TO STATE AND LOCAL TAX RECEIPTS FROM INDIVIDUAL RELOCATIONS, ALMOST 10 TIMES GREATER THAN THAT FROM CORPORATE SUBSIDIES.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET IN THAT TRAP ANYWAY.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
WELL, COULD YOU SHARE THAT NOTE WITH, UH, MARKS SHARED OUR BOARD FOLDER? YEAH.
THIS CAME FROM, UH, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHICH ONE IS IT'S, I THINK IT WAS ATLANTIC ATLANTA ATLANTIC MAGAZINE.
BUT WE MAKE COPIES AND YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS.
UH, ARE WE STILL ON TARGET NOVEMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF NO WAKE ZONES IN THE COUNTY? I THINK WE WERE NO WAKE ZONES.
THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS STARTING TO WORK ON THAT.
IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
BUT WE DEFINITELY, WE'LL HAVE IT IN PLACE FOR THE SPRING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE PAST ONES THAT WE CAN FIND THAT WE'RE, AND WE'RE GONNA BRING 'EM INTO YOU ONE PACKAGE.
KIND OF SAY ALL THE ONES THAT WERE DONE BEFORE, NULL AND VOID, HERE'S THE, ALL THE NO WAKE ZONES AS OF TODAY.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE GOTTA DO SOME RESEARCH ON ALL OF THAT AND KIND OF LOOK BACK INTO ARCHIVES TO SEE OKAY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA BRING IT TO YOU.
WE WANNA KIND OF LEVEL THE, LEVEL EVERYTHING AT AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE SEEING ON CHISHOLM CREEK HERE.
AND THE SECOND THING ON, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT I TALKED TO CHAD GREEN THE OTHER DAY, UM, AND
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HE SENT A LETTER TO WHATEVER THE ORGANIZATION IS.I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS THAT WAS, WAS STOPPING BMRC? NO, I DON'T.
IT WAS, IT WAS WHOEVER BMRC REPORTS UNDER AS DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE CONSERVATION.
CONSERVATION CONSERVATION OR SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, HE SAID HE SENT A LETTER TO THEM TO SAY, HEY, LET'S NOT SHAKE PEOPLE DOWN UNTIL WE CAN GET THIS STRAIGHT.
I DON'T, I ASKED HIM TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LETTER.
I HOPE HE DOES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THE VOTERS OUT THERE BEING HARASSED IF IT'S NOT.
AND, AND I GOT OUT APPLICABLE AND I GOT OUT ON THE WATER A COUPLE, THREE WEEKS AGO TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THOSE NO WAKE ZONES, THE OLD ONES AND WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF SITUATED AND, AND THE ONE SPOT WHERE THE CREEK IS REALLY WIDE AND IT REALLY CAN'T COVER THE ENTIRE CREEK.
AND SOMEHOW THOUGH, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO CLARIFY THAT AND DIVIDE THE CREEK UP AND HAVE, SO I DON'T KNOW.
WE, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF CHALLENGE.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY, UH, CAP DRUGS, WORKING WITH ATTORNEY STAFF TO, TO WORK ALL THAT OUT.
THE SECOND THING, UM, ON OCTOBER 20TH AT SIX O'CLOCK AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE, YOUR, YOUR PERCUSSION SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE YORK PERCUSSION SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CITIZENS CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS HOSTING A DANGERS OF STATE PRODUCTS, UM, PUBLIC FORUM.
AND I, I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE LEARNED WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE BEING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE SELL SOLD OVER THE COUNTER.
IT'S NOT ONLY VAPE SHOPS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR CONVENIENCE STORES AND SO FORTH.
THAT, UH, UM, ARE THE LISTING INGREDIENTS ON THERE, YOU, BASED UPON THE LIST, WHAT TIME WOULD YOU SAY IT'S SIX O'CLOCK AT ON THE 20TH? UM, BASED UPON THE LISTING INGREDIENTS AND THE PROPORTIONS, IT'S LEGAL, BUT THERE'S NO STANDARDS FOR MEASURING THAT IN THEORY.
BUT THERE'S NO STANDARDS, MANUFACTURER STANDARDS FOR MEASURING THAT.
SO WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
SO YOU MAY BUY SOME OF THAT SEEMS HARMLESS, BUT YOU MAY ACTUALLY BE INGESTING ON MATERIAL ALSO.
SOMETIMES YOU APPLY HEAT TO IT, THAT CHANGES THE COMPOSITION, IT BECOMES HARMFUL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT AND A LOT OF KIDS DON'T REALIZE THAT.
AND THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE STUFF THAT COULD BE HARMFUL.
AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE, THE COMMUNITY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE DANGERS ARE OUT THERE.
JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS IT'S OKAY, DOESN'T MEAN IT IS.
SO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME JOIN US THAT EVENING AND WE WILL GO OVER WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE CAN SHARE AND, UM, FROM THERE.
UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO SIT AT A ROUND TABLE AT VIMS. UM, OH, GOOD.
AND IT WAS, UM, VERY INFORMATIVE AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT ON SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THEIR PLATFORMS THAT THEY HAVE.
AND I DIDN'T BRING MY SHEET WITH ME, BUT I THINK ONE'S CALLED TIDE WATCH.
UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE ONLINE AND LOOKED AT THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A BOATER OR WHATEVER, UM, THEY HAVE, UH, THIS DOCTOR OVER THERE THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT, THIS PROGRAM HAS DONE EXTENSIVE STUDIES OF, UM, RISING TIDES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO NOW THEY'VE PUT SENSORS THAT, I THINK HE SAID THEY HAVE ABOUT 50 SENSORS NOW IN THIS AREA THAT THEY CAN NOW PREDICT TIDE CHANGES WITH THE WEATHER EVERY 12 HOURS.
BUT IT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING THAT THEY HAVE ON THIS, I THINK IT WAS ON THIS PLATFORM, LIKE IF YOU LIVE ON A CERTAIN ROAD AND YOU WANT TO SEE THE MODEL OF WHAT THE RISE IS GONNA BE, YOU CAN HIT THAT ROAD AND IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE RISE WILL BE IN THIS PARTICULAR STORM OR WEATHER COMING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING STREETS AND MM-HMM
AND THE, THE POINT, THE POINT OF THAT IS WE, WE SHUT SCHOOLS DOWN JUST RECENTLY FOR FLOODING OF STREETS AND NONE OF THE STREETS WERE FLOODED.
AND SO THAT WAS A BIG DISRUPTION FOR FAMILIES HAVING TO PICK THEIR KIDS UP WHEN THERE'S REALLY, THERE REALLY WASN'T ANY WORRY ABOUT FLOODING OTHER THAN IT COULD FLOOD.
SO IF WE CAN TIE THIS INTO, AND I MEANT TO EMAIL THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THAT TO SAY, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THIS.
UM, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY COOL THAT YOU CAN GO ON THERE AND, AND, UM, THERE WAS A GUY THAT'S PART OF THIS TEAM THAT, UH, IS A BIG FISHERMAN AND HE'S, HE'S SAYING THAT THEY'VE GOT THESE MODELS NOW CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE FISH ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE NOT, WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE, THE WATER TEMPERATURE AND DIFFERENT CELEBRITY STUFF IN THE WATER.
SO THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF STUFF.
I THINK THE SAD PART IS IT'S NOT GETTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND THAT THEY'RE TRYING, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY
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HAD THE ROUND TABLE FOR, IS LIKE, HOW DO WE DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING THIS OUT? SO VIMS IS THE, THE FEDERAL, MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES TO VIMS FOR THEIR INFORMATION AND VIMS HAS PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER.UH, SO I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, PLEASED THAT WE HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD AND THEY'RE DOING SUCH GREAT WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST HERE LOCALLY, BUT THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S LEANING HEAVILY ON VIMS FOR A LOT OF THEIR MODELING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS IS THAT, IS THAT A PUBLIC WEBSITE? IT IS.
TIDE WATCH, I THINK TIDE WATCH.
WHAT'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VIMS AND WILLIAM? MARY.
WILLIAM AND MARY? IT IS PART OF WILLIAM AND MARY.
I THOUGHT THEY WAS, IS IT A PART OF WILLIAM AND MARY? MM-HMM
SO THEY HAD WILLIAM AND MARY THERE.
THEY HAD, I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT 12 PEOPLE THAT CAME AND SPOKE AND, UH, TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY WERE DOING.
SO I THOUGHT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED AND I'M LIKE, MAN, WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, SECOND THING IS, UM, WE HAVE YORKTOWN DAY COMING UP HERE ON THE 19TH.
WHAT NATURAL PARK NATIONAL PARK SHUT DOWN.
THE WHOLE AGENDA HAS BEEN IMPACTED UNTIL THEY GET BACK UP AND RUNNING.
SO THEY'RE NOT THERE TO INTERFERE WITH US.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S WRONG? NO PARADE
SO ANYWAY, IF WE HAVE IT COME OUT AND SUPPORT AND, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, COME OUT AND SUPPORT
COME OUT AND EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS AND THE PUBS AND THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED ALL THAT BECAUSE WE HAD THIS FLYER THAT WAS PUT BEFORE US TONIGHT AND UPCOMING YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA TWO 50 EVENTS AND VICTORY WEEKEND, OCTOBER 18TH AND 19TH.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE MARKET, UH, RIVER WALK LANDING FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM YOU'VE GOT THE VICTORY CELEBRATION AND AMERICAN REVOLUTION MUSEUM OF NINE TO FIVE.
AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR TOWN DAY, OCTOBER 19TH IF IT GOES THROUGH.
THE THING ABOUT IT'S YOUR TOWN DAY IS NOW ON A SUNDAY.
SO THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED FOR THE PARADE AND THE OTHER EVENTS THAT GO ON ON THAT.
UM, AND ALSO ON THIS IS WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAIL YOURTOWN FESTIVAL, WHICH IS AN OFFICIAL SAIL, VIRGINIA 2026 AFFILIATE HARBOR.
WE'RE GONNA TALL SHIPS THAT COME INTO YORK COUNTY.
AND IT IS ALWAYS WONDERFUL TO SEE, SEE THE, THE SALES WHEN THEY COME.
AND FINALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY, CELEBRATION JULY 4TH, 2026.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT EVERY TIME THAT I DRIVE TO COME TO A MEETING HERE, OR I SEE PEOPLE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SHIP, I THINK IT MUST BE AN AMERICAN CRUISE LINE.
AND IT'S VERY QUIET DOWN THERE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE ENJOYING THEMSELVES AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANTED IT TO BE LIKE.
AND SO I'M SO PLEASED THAT WE, WE DID WHAT WE DID WHEN WE DID IT.
[CLOSED MEETING.]
ANYTHING FURTHER.SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIR TO TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION.
A NUMBER OF, UH, CLOSED MEETING MOTIONS.
SO ON PERSONNEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A ONE, DAKOTA, VIRGINIA.
I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE AND CLOSE MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
ALSO, UM, PERSPECTIVE, UH, BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR EXPANSIONS OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY IN IMPORTANCE WITH, UH, SECTION 2, 2, 3, 7 1, UH, 3 7 1 1 A FIVE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN A CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY OR EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE.
AND FINALLY, UNDER LEGAL MATTERS, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2, 2, 3, 7 1 1 A SEVEN OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO CHOOSE, UH, CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, CONSULTANTS, AND OR STAFF ON A MATTER OF ACTUAL LITIGATION TO WHICH THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED.
MOTION MADE BY MR. ROY IS TO CONVENE AND CLOSE MEETING PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE AS STATED.
MR. DREWRY? YES, MR. WRONG? YES.
UH, NOW FOR ADJOURNMENT, WE WILL ADJOURN TO THE OCTOBER 9TH BOARD RETREAT
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AND FOLLOWING THAT, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST IN THE BOARDROOM OF YOUR CALL.THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.