Nov 19, 2024 Board of Supervisors

WE GOT SOME PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND CALL ON DELEGATE CHAD GREEN TO LEAD US IN THE, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE, WE CAN STAND AND FACE THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION ON GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE SRA.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. OH, YES.

AND, AND ALSO, AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MOBILE DEVICES ARE SILENCED.

UM, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA,

[1.* Service Recognition. Presentation of service recognition pins for employees with 25 years of service to York County. ]

AND FIRST OF ALL, I'M GONNA CALL ON SHERIFF RON MONTGOMERY, THAT HE HAS SOME PRESENTATION OF SERVICE RECOGNITION FOR A COUPLE OF OUR DEPUTIES.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, THAT YOU PROVIDED TO RECOGNIZE TWO OF MY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TODAY CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF YORK COUNTY AND THE CITY OF POCOS.

AND IRONICALLY, THEY WERE BOTH HIRED ON THE SAME DAY, OCTOBER THE FOURTH, 1999.

SO WITH CAPTAIN JASON HOUSTON, COME UP FIRST.

CAPTAIN HOUSTON, AS I SAID, WAS HIRED ON OCTOBER THE FOURTH, 1999.

AND HE CAME TO US FROM THE MARINE CORPS.

I HAVE TO SAY HE WAS A FORMER MARINE 'CAUSE I'VE LEARNED THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN EX-MARINE.

AND HE'S REMINDED ME OF THAT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

HE STARTED OUT HIS CAREER HERE WORKING IN THE COURTHOUSE, AND THEN WHEN AN OPENING ON PATROL SHIFTS OPENED UP, HE APPLIED AND OBVIOUSLY WAS ACCEPTED.

SO IN HIS CAREER HERE, HE IS BEEN A PATROL DEPUTY.

HE'S BEEN A PATROL SERGEANT, A PATROL LIEUTENANT, AND HE CURRENTLY HOLDS THE RANK OF CAPTAIN,

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AND HE'S THE DEMI DIVISION COMMANDER FOR THE UNIFORM PATROL DIVISION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY IN HIS TIME HERE.

HE HAS SERVED ON THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.

HE'S BEEN A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.

HE'S A MEMBER OF THE HONOR GUARD AS WELL AS THE DUI TASK FORCE.

HE ALSO HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE I KNOW FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY, AND I BELIEVE HE'S WORKING ON HIS MASTER'S AS WE SPEAK.

FROM THERE, JASON IS AN OUTSTANDING MEMBER OF THE YORK SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND I WANNA CONGRATULATE HIM TONIGHT ON 25 YEARS OF SERVICE.

PERFECT.

THIS IS THE PERFECT ONE.

NEXT, UH, WITH MASTER DEPUTY MICHAEL WRIGHT.

SHOW UP.

I'M SORRY.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO BEFORE I, AND I FORGOT.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT CAPTAIN HOUSTON'S FAMILY'S HERE, HIS WIFE JOE IS HERE, HIS DAUGHTER JULIA, AND HIS SON COLIN, WERE HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.

MASTER DEPUTY WRIGHT.

AND WHILE HE'S COMING UP, SO I DON'T FORGET, IN THIS CASE, I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE HIS FAMILY'S HERE TONIGHT.

HIS WIFE CYNTHIA, HIS DAUGHTER JESSICA, HIS SON MAXIMUM, AND HE HAS A GRANDDAUGHTER, CHLOE HERE AS WELL.

THEY'RE ALL SITTING IN THE BACK.

SO WELCOME TO YOU AS WELL.

AS I SAID BEFORE, MASTER DEPUTY MIKE WRIGHT WAS HIRED ON OCTOBER THE FOURTH, 1999.

HE WENT DIRECTLY INTO THE PATROL DIVISION, AND HE'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.

HE ATTAINED THE RANK OF MASTER DEPUTY IN THE YEAR 2013, AND HE'S CURRENTLY THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL.

HE, IN HIS CAREER HERE, HE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BIKE PATROL.

HE'S A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.

HE IS THE ASSISTANT TEAM LEADER CURRENTLY ON THE HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION TEAM.

AND HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CRISIS INCIDENT STRESS MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING NEW TEAM.

HE'S PART OF A GROUP OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE IN OUR, IN OUR AGENCY THAT IF THERE'S A STRESSFUL SITUATION, THE OFFICERS WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN REACH OUT TO COWORKERS SUCH AS MIKE, WHO'S HAD THIS TRAINING AND CERTIFIED BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF COUNSELING.

SO HE'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT MEMBER OF OUR AGENCY AS WELL.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL STAFF LOVES THIS GUY.

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'LL TEASE WITH THEM ABOUT THE FACT THAT I MIGHT MOVE HIM, AND I GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THAT.

HE'S AN OUTSTANDING SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.

SO ONCE AGAIN, MIKE WRIGHT IS SELLING, CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY AND THE CITY OF POCO C**N.

THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF MONTGOMERY, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE, THE SERVICE AWARDS AND RECOGNITION FOR, FOR OUR DEPUTIES HERE, UH, WE ARE GREATLY BENEFITED BY SO MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, UH, IN IN YOUR STAFF ACROSS, ACROSS THE BOARD.

UH, MOVING

[2.* Legislative Update. Receive presentation from Delegate W. Chad Green.]

ON.

WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FROM, UH, DELEGATE CHAD GREEN, WHO'S HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS PAST, UM, GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION AND MAYBE WHAT WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE COMING UP IN 2025.

SO, DELEGATE GREEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US EVENING, AND YOU HAVE THE MIC.

THANK, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN, ROWAN, VICE CHAIRMAN NOEL, SUPERVISOR ROY, SUPERVISOR DRURY, AND OF, OF COURSE, SUPER SUPERVISOR TOM SHEPHERD.

, UH, GOOD, GOOD TO BE BACK.

AND I'LL BE REMISS WITHOUT SAYING, UH, HELLO TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MARK BELLAMY.

UH, BEEN A VERY, VERY INTERESTING, DID I HAVE THE MIC ON? IS IT YOU'RE GOOD.

I KNOW THERE'S, YOU GOT A NEW SYSTEM HERE.

KIND OF MESSED ME UP AS LONG AS IT'S READ.

YOU'RE GOOD.

THIS ALLOWS THAT, AND IT'S, UH, WAS WELL RECEIVED, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

UH, ANYWAY, UH, VERY INTERESTING, UH, YEAR OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

I WAS ONE OF 34 NEW DELEGATES, UH, THE LARGEST FRESHMAN CLASS SINCE RECONSTRUCTION.

UH, SO THERE WAS A, UH, BIG LEARNING CURVE BY A LOT OF US, UH, UP THERE.

I WAS VERY FORTUNATE.

I PASSED SIX BILLS, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, QUITE, QUITE A, A FEAT, UH, BEING IN THE MINORITY.

AND, UH, I WANNA TALK TO YOU A LITTLE TONIGHT ABOUT THOSE BILLS.

UH, THE FIRST BILL, HOUSE BILL 98, WHICH WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY GOVERNOR YOUNGIN, ALLOWS JRTC OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE FOR PE CREDITS.

WE HERE IN YORK COUNTY ALLOW JRTC TO COUNT AS PE CREDITS, BUT OTHERS AROUND THE STATE DO NOT.

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AND, UH, A LOT OF KIDS NOW WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE JRTC AND WILL COUNT AS A PE CREDIT, UH, HOUSE BILL 1 38, THE SALES TAX HOLIDAY.

A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE SITTING HERE AND WE'RE SITTING THERE LIKE, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR SALES TAX HOLIDAY? WELL, THEY HADN'T NEGOTIATED A BUDGET, SO NOW WE CODIFIED THAT AND PUT IT INTO LAW, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE, IT'S NOT BUDGET CONTINGENT.

UH, SO WE'LL GET THE SALES TAX AND EMERGENCY PREPARATION HOLIDAY, UH, SOMETIME IN AUGUST EVERY YEAR.

UH, WE WERE RUNNING BEHIND WITH THEIR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IN OUR COURTS.

GOT ANOTHER JUDGE HOUSE BILL 1 54.

WE GOT ANOTHER CIRCUIT JUDGE, UH, FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT, WHICH INCLUDES YORK, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY, GLOUCESTER, UH, PARTS OF NEW KENT.

SO THAT'S GOOD, UH, TO HELP THE, THE COURTS.

AND, UH, THE LAST, UH, ONE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS, UH, HOUSE BILL 1 55.

AND THAT ALLOWED FOR, UH, TOOK THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OFF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INJURY FUND FOR VICTIMS OF, UH, SEXUAL ASSAULT.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE VICTIMIZED AND YOU WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 18, UH, YOU WERE STATUTORY LIMITED BY 10 YEARS.

UH, SO AT 28, YOU COULD NOT MAKE CLAIMS ON THIS FUND.

WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS WE ARE FINDING THAT PE INDIVIDUALS WOULD COME FORWARD LATER IN LIFE AND, UH, SOMETHING WOULD TRIGGER, UH, ISSUES.

AND THEY WERE HAVING, UH, ISSUES LATER IN LIFE IN THEIR THIRTIES AND FORTIES.

UH, WE TOOK THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OFF.

AND, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE, UH, CLAIMS ON THAT FUND, UH, WITHOUT BEING TOM BEAR BARRED.

TALKED ABOUT A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP.

UH, AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU WERE AT VACO LAST WEEKEND.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE STATE TAKING THE LAND USE DECISIONS AWAY FROM THE LOCALITIES.

I VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THAT.

UH, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A, A BIG ISSUE COMING UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS, UH, THAT ARE UP THERE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THE LOCALITIES, AND THAT'S JUST, UH, NOT RIGHT.

UH, THE OTHER THING I'M GONNA BE, UH, OPPOSING IS, UH, RIVERBOAT GAMBLING.

I DO NOT WANNA SEE RIVERBOAT GAMBLING COME HERE TO YORKTOWN.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PUSH TO HAVE, UH, GAMING ON, UH, CRUISE SHIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND, UH, BE OPERATING WHEN THEY ARE IN VIRGINIA WATERS.

I'LL BE OPPOSING THAT.

SO, UH, HOW YOU CAN REACH ME, I'VE GOT A DISTRICT OFFICE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM JOEY MIMAS AT 57 58 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN MOST OF THE TIME DURING THE DAY, UNLESS WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT.

UH, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN BY APPOINTMENTS.

SO I, I SUGGEST YOU GIVE A CALL OR EMAIL ME AT DELEGATE DELLCGREEN@HOUSE.HOUSE AT HOUSE.

DO I DON'T EMAIL MYSELF, UH, VIRGINIA.GOV.

SO KEEP KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THE FUNDING FOR THE COMPENSATION BOARD.

MS. NOEL, THE COMP BOARD NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, UH, FOR THE YORK COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

UH, WE NEED, REALLY NEED TO HOLD VDOT ACCOUNTABLE.

UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A THEME OF MINE MOVING FORWARD, IS SOME REAL ACCOUNTABILITY ON VDOT.

UH, AND LAST, I AM VERY LOOKING, MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING, UH, AND HEARING, UH, WITH MS. NOLL ABOUT, UH, THE YORK COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES COMING UP, UH, I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER.

SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL OPEN IT TO QUESTIONS.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE BACK HERE.

THAT'S LIKE OLD HOME WEEK.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK HERE IN YOUR CALL.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISORS, SUPERVISOR DREWRY.

UM, MR. DRURY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS.

I KNOW WE'VE SAID THAT BEFORE, BUT, UM, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU IN THE HOUSE, UH, THE SENATE THERE AND, UH, WELL, DOING YOUR JOB UP THERE FOR US.

AND REMEMBER, US LITTLE GUYS BACK HERE IN YORK COUNTY, RIGHT? SO YOU REPRESENT US.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I ENJOYED SPENDING SOME TIME WITH YOU AT THE VACO LAST WEEKEND AND, UH, OR LAST WEEK.

AND, UH, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR YORK COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS.

THANKS.

THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD.

ONE THINGS, UH, CHAD THAT, UM, IN THE PAST, I DUNNO, HIT THE BUTTON HERE.

THERE YOU, OH, I ALWAYS HAVE YOU PUSH IT SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

IT'S TOO FAR AWAY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, IN, IN THE PAST THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS THAT MANY OF THE DELEGATES AND SENATORS ELECTED HAVE NEVER SERVED THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE FROM DEALING IN YOUR

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COUNTY UP THERE.

SO, UH, A QUE I GOT, JUST GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT ONE, IS THAT STILL A KIND OF A, AN ISSUE THERE, THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF US WHO HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE ON TOWN COUNCILS, UH, BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARDS.

SO I WOULD SAY OF THE 34, I JUST THROW THIS OUT, THERE MIGHT BE ABOUT 12 OF US.

, WHO HAVE, UH, SERVED ON, UH, DIFFERENT BOARDS.

AND THAT STRIKES AT A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.

WHEN THE PEOPLE WOULD COME UP AND SAY THEY WANT TO HAVE LAND USE DECISIONS UP THERE, THEN THAT'S REALLY A PEOPLE'S DECISION AND IT'S BEST SERVED AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A CHALLENGE, FOLKS.

UH, WHEN THESE BILLS COME UP, IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING UP SO THE PEOPLE CAN WRITE AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINION TO MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEES THAT BRING THESE THINGS FORWARD.

UM, THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED, VDOT, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY, VDOT.

UM, 'CAUSE I SIT ON THE, UH, THE, UH, HAMPTON ROAD TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION AND THE, THE THING CALLED THE TRUTH COMMISSION, BASICALLY THE HR TAC.

UM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THE EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT VDOT IS GROSSLY UNDERFUNDED.

NOT ONLY IS IT UNDERFUNDED, IT'S UNDERMANNED.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THEY CUT A COUPLE THOUSAND, UH, PEOPLE OUT OF THE, UH, VDOT BUDGET.

BUT, UH, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, ROUGHLY THAT THE VDOT BUDGET'S $10 BILLION.

AND YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, GOSH, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

UH, HALF THAT MONEY THEY USE, THEY CONSIDER IN THEIR BUDGET IS ACTUALLY THE MONEY WE RAISE.

THE CITIZENS OF HAMPTON ROADS RAISES RIGHT HERE TO PAY FOR THESE, UH, WIDENING 64, THE TUNNEL HIGHRISE BRIDGE, AND ALL THESE, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING CONTINUING TO EXPAND.

AND THAT'S NOT STATE.

I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY NOT STATE MONEY.

THAT'S OUR MONEY HERE.

AND SO THIS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR WHOLE STATE, THEY ONLY HAVE REALLY ABOUT $5 BILLION.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE, THE SECONDARY ROAD PROGRAMS THAT MANY PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT, LIKE WIDENING OF VICTORY BOULEVARD, EVERYBODY IN THE HAMPTON ROADS KNOWS A COMPLAINT ABOUT, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, ROUTE 17 AND OTHER THING, ROADS LIKE THAT, 58 THINGS THAT NEED REPAIR.

SO JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THERE'S A GROSS BUDGET.

THEY'RE UNDERFUNDED FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUDGET SURPLUS, UH MM-HMM.

SOMEWHERE IN THE TWO TO $3 BILLION RANGE, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU SPEAK WITH.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT GO TO VDOT, UH, FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.

UH, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, I KNOW YOU HAD TALKED TO ME, UH, LAST YEAR, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, HIKE IN THE GAS TAX FOR A, A PENNY TO BE, IT'S A THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT.

SAY THAT AGAIN? THREE, THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT.

HARDLY WOULD EVER WOULD EVER NOTICE IT.

AND IT COULD, COULD, AND IT WOULD FUND EVERY ANCILLARY ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO 64.

BUT IT IS A TAX INCREASE.

HAD YOU BAD WORDS, BUT NO, IT, AND YOU ARE CORRECT ON THAT.

UH, IF YOU COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, YOU HAVE MY INTERNAL GRATITUDE.

SO SEPARATE MS. MS. NORTH, THANK YOU, CHAD.

WHILE I WAS UP, UP IN VACO THAT I HEARD AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE THOUGHT OF ALLOWING FAITH-BASED, UH, CHURCHES WHO HAVE EXCESS LAND TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS THAT THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE LAW SO THEY WOULD, COULD BUILD UNITS 20 TO AN ACRE, WHEREAS WE, I THINK OURS IS AROUND 10 TO AN ACRE.

I'M NOT SURE.

AND I'M NOT, I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT HERE IN YORK COUNTY, BUT I'VE ASKED STAFF TO SORT OF LOOK AT, AT THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THAT.

BUT WE DO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.

I I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN IT FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS WHEN GENERAL ASSEMBLY TALKS ABOUT IT YEAR AFTER YEAR AND NOTHING GETS DONE.

BUT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.

OF COURSE, IF THEY DO IT, THE PROPERTY THAT THEY USE TO BUILD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEN BECOMES TAXABLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WHAT THE CHURCH'S MISSION IS.

SURE.

BUT I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND HOPE THAT YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG SURPLUS IN THE BUDGET, BUT SO ARE THE BILLS FOR MEDICAID ARE GOING UP AND, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THAT MUCH SURPLUS THAT WE COULD USE.

BUT I GO ALONG WITH WHAT TOM SAYS.

TRANSPORTATION, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, THE, THE MONEY THAT THEY CAME TO THE COUNTY WAS REALLY HIGH.

AND NOW THE AMOUNT THAT WE GET IS AN EMBARRASSMENT, TRUTHFULLY.

UM, SO THAT DOES NEED TO BE READJUSTED.

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SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE COMMONWEALTH.

THA THANK YOU, MS. SNOW.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT CHURCHES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

I JUST WOULDN'T WANT US TO WRITE OUT THE LOCALITIES TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SAY, UH, IN THAT, BECAUSE I COULD FORESEE A, A SCENARIO WHERE EVERY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD COME IN FRONT OF, UH, US IN YORK COUNTY, WOULD SUDDENLY BE DONE BY A CHURCH.

AND, UH, SUDDENLY THEY WOULD SAY, HEY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS NO SAY IN THIS.

UH, WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO CONTROL, I HOPE.

IT, IT IS, IT IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE MORE INTERESTING CONCEPTS WE DID WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD WAS WE REZONED A PART OF THE, THE OLD JC PENN'S MM-HMM.

, WE REZONED THE FRONT PART OF THAT, WHERE IT WOULD BE TAXABLE FOR STARBUCKS OR DAYCARE THINGS.

IN THE BACK PART WOULD BE A CHURCH.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT, HOW, IF THAT HAD EVER MOVED FORWARD, UH, FROM THERE.

BUT THAT WAS A, A VERY FORWARD THINKING MM-HMM.

, UH, CONCEPT THAT THIS BOARD DID.

AND, UH, YES, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD OUTCOME.

SO, YES.

THANK MS. NO, MR. ROY.

CHAD, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE ON, UH, ON GAMBLING AND GAMING.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THERE IS, UH, AT LEAST ONGOING DEBATE ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD EXPAND.

I THINK SITTING IN THE HEART OF YORKTOWN, AS YOU WOULD CALL, UH, PARADISE, I BELIEVE IS THE NAME YOU USED FOR IT.

UM, PEOPLE HERE WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE ON CRUISE SHIPS.

AND I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON LEGISLATION AROUND ST.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WITH STR, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE LOCAL CONTROL FROM? UH, I WILL BE, UH, OPPOSING THAT I BELIEVE THAT LOCAL CONTROL IS BEST WHEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU, UH, TALK ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS.

UH, AS FAR AS CRUISE BOATS, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK, UH, LAST TIME.

THERE WERE A LOT OF LOBBYISTS THAT WERE MOBILIZED.

UH, BUT, BUT NOT MUCH CAME OUT OF IT.

I WAS DOWN FOR THE YORKTOWN TEA PARTY, UH, LAST WEEK.

UH, MS. NOLL WAS THERE.

IT WAS A QUITE A, A, A INTERESTING TIME.

AND THERE WAS A, A SMALL CRUISE SHIP, UH, WHAT I'VE BEEN, UH, REFERRED TO AS THE RIGHT SIZE CRUISE SHIP WAS THERE.

UH, VERY, VERY NICE EVENT.

UH, TOURISM IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, PART OF OUR ECONOMY HERE.

UH, AND, UH, I, I THINK THE, UH, WHERE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HIT THE RIGHT MIXTURE.

UH, BUT AS FAR AS, UH, BIG CRUISE SHIPS, UH, COMING IN, UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE, UH, MIGHT BE SOME LEGISLATION THAT THIS BOARD IS, UH, WORKING ON TO, UH, I GUESS, UH, GIVE A MORE BRIGHT LINE, UH, DEFINITION OF WHAT, UH, IS COMING IN AND WHAT NOT IS NOT COMING IN.

SO, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING WHATEVER, UH, THIS BOARD COMES UP WITH.

BUT, UH, THE BIG, THE BIG THING THAT I SEE RIGHT NOW IS, UH, THE GAMBLING ASPECT.

AND, UH, I COULD FORESEE A, A SCENARIO WHERE, UH, THERE COULD BE RIVERBOAT GAMBLING, GAMBLING BOATS, UH, FLOODING THE, UH, CHESAPEAKE BAY AND GOING FROM YORKTOWN TO VIRGINIA BEACH TO PORTSMOUTH TO DIFFERENT PLACES.

SO, YES, MR. MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? PLEASE.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GAMBLING ON SHIPS, YOU'RE TALKING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SHIPS THAT ARE TIED UP TO THE, TO THE PIER? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SHIPS THAT ARE IN THE WATER AND, AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, RESERVATIONS ON THAT SHIP ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN DO THE GAMBLING? WE, WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT BOTH.

UH, BOTH.

BOTH, YEAH.

BECAUSE I WOULDN'T SUPPORT ONE, BUT I'D SUPPORT THE OTHER.

WELL, REEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING, GIVING US A READOUT AND SOME TO EXPECT, UM, GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK HERE IN YOUR CALL.

AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING UP THERE.

I CAN, I CAN APPRECIATE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU FACED THIS PAST SESSION IN WHAT YOU GOT COMING UP, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BRING YOUR PERSPECTIVE FROM THIS BOARD TO THAT ASSEMBLY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEP THINGS SQUARED AWAY.

SO, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

AND, UM, DON'T BE A STRANGER.

IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK.

UH, THE SESSION STARTS JANUARY 8TH.

UH, I'M IN ROOM 8 1 6.

THAT'S EIGHT 16.

PLEASE SWING BY ANYTIME.

COME SEE US.

MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, TREVOR WEBB IS BACK THERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO HIM.

UH, AND YES, MS. NOLL, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR OFFICE TELEPHONE NUMBER? YOU DIDN'T GIVE IT? YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

'CAUSE I, I DON'T CALL IT, BUT, UH, SORRY I ASKED, BUT NO, IT'S, UH, IT IS, IT ENDS IN SIX NINE, WHICH IS MY DISTRICT.

SO, UH, ANYWAY, BUT I, I APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PRESENTATION, THE UTILITY, STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN.

AND, AND LOBBY DAY IS, WHICH DAY? THIS YEAR? NOT SURE OF THAT, BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL KEEP YOU, UH, INFORMED ON THAT.

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ALRIGHT, MOVING ALONG.

[3. Utilities Strategic Capital Plan (USCP) Revision. Receive presentation from Jon Seiter, Assistant Director of Public Works. ]

UH, JOHN SATER COMING UP HERE.

SPEAK TO US.

YOU HAVE THE PODIUM.

WHAT DID I DO WITH IT? CIDER, RIGHT? CIDER.

YEP, IT'S CIDER.

I ALSO KNOW THAT, 'CAUSE I TALKED TO YOUR DAD LIKE, LIKE A WEEKEND AGO, SO, OH NO.

JOHN CEDAR.

ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS JOHN SEIDER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I APPRECIATE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE UTILITY, STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN.

UM, BEFORE DIVING IN, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE STAFF AND INTRODUCE THEM BRIEFLY.

WE DO HAVE SOME IN THE AUDIENCE AND THEY'LL COME UP AND HELP OUT IF POSSIBLE OR IF OR IF NEEDED.

UM, FROM THE WASTEWATER TEAM, WE GOT JOE SCHULER, TIM HAN, MIKE PHALEN, AND TRAVIS RHODES.

AND TRAVIS IS HERE.

UM, FROM THE STORMWATER TEAM, WE HAVE JOE BROGAN AND ROBERT WALTERS, WHICH ARE BOTH HERE.

ALSO, WE HAVE BARETT, NICKS, KEN HENKEL, AND CHARLES WHITE.

UM, FROM THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM, WE GOT KAILYN, ABBOT, BETH MERKIN, AND MARCELLA.

GERARDO AND KAYLYN AND BETH ARE HERE AS WELL.

AND FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM, WE HAVE ELLEN, MEDFORD AND NICK GIBBS, AND THEY'RE, NEITHER OF THEM ARE HERE, BUT THEY'VE BEEN RE THEY'RE THE ONES BASICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE MAPS THAT YOU SEE IN THE PACKET THAT I PROVIDED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

SO, MOVING ON.

SO WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, UM, BASICALLY I, I WANT YOUR FEEDBACK, GUIDANCE, AND DIRECTION ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED UP HERE.

AND IF YOU DO HAVE YOUR, YOUR RITA HEADS, ALL THESE ARE IN THERE, BASICALLY.

MM-HMM, .

SO ONE, TWO, AND THREE ON THERE.

EVALUATION CRITERIA, PROJECT ROLL UP LIST, AND THE DETAILED PROJECT AREA MAPS ARE LISTED THROUGHOUT, UM, ATTACHMENTS, ONE THROUGH FOUR.

UM, SO YOU DO HAVE FOUR BASIC CATEGORIES, SEWER LINE EXTENSION, STORM WATER, AND TWO CATEGORIES OF TRANSPORTATION, ACTIVE AND THEN VEHICULAR.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH AND I'LL TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WAY AHEAD.

THAT WAS ESTABLISHED YEARS AGO.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON THAT OR ANY SUGGESTIONS, DEFINITELY WILLING TO TAKE THAT IN.

UM, SO WHAT I'M GONNA COVER, I'LL GO OVER THE BACKGROUND, WHY THIS PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN 1992.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE, WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THIS REVISION CYCLE.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS ITSELF, AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF DIVE INTO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA.

AND THEN THE PROJECT ROLLUP SHEETS.

UM, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT FUNDING BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES HAS A DIFFERENT STREAM OF FUNDING AND HOW THEY'RE SOURCED.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN 19 19 92 BY ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO IN 2010, ROUGHLY AFTER THAT, A COUPLE YEARS ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND GENERAL SERVICES COMBINED, YOU HAD PUBLIC WORKS.

SO ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES USED TO HAVE ALL THE UTILITIES ASPECTS IN THERE.

SO YOU HAD SEWER LINE EXTENSION AND WATER, WHICH WERE THE TWO PRIMARY, TWO PRIMARY THINGS WHY THIS WAS CREATED.

ESSENTIALLY, THERE WAS MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE STAFF.

AND, AND IN ORDER TO KIND OF INTEGRATE STAFF POLICY AND STAFF GUIDANCE INTO THE PROCESS, THEY DEVELOPED BASICALLY THE, THE FIRST UTILITY, STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN.

UM, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 1992 AND IT INVOLVED, UH, SEWER EXTENSIONS AND THEN WATER PROJECTS.

REALLY AT THIS TIME, THE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR YOUR COUNTY IS ONLY ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.

SO THE EIGHTIES AND THE NINETIES, YOU SAW A LOT OF NEED, DESIRE, AND WANT FOR SEWER EXTENSION AND WATER PROJECTS, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTY.

SO THERE'S A, THERE HAD TO BE A REALLY DELIBERATE PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, EVALUATING THESE THINGS AND RANKING THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING FOR THESE THINGS IS NOT EXPENSIVE.

SO YOU, YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

SO THAT PRIORITIZE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, IN 1999, STORM WATER PROJECTS WERE ADDED TO THE MIX.

SO IT BECAME SEWER LINE EXTENSION, STORM WATER AND WATER PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE LAST REVISION WAS DONE IN 2010.

SO IT'S BEEN, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 15 YEARS SINCE WE'VE DONE ONE OF THESE THINGS.

SO IT'S BEEN A LEARNING PROCESS FOR THE STAFF TO THE STAFF TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PROCESS WAS AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIRECTION SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD.

WORK, BUT WE HAVE BOARD INPUT ALONG THE WAY SO WE'RE NOT OPERATING IN A VACUUM, BASICALLY.

SO I ALLUDED TO PROBABLY THE FIRST TWO ON TWO ON THIS LIST HERE ON THE LAST SLIDE.

REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN IS TO LINE THE PRIORITIES OF WORK FOR THE STAFF AND TO INTEGRATE PREFERENCES FROM THE BOARD AS WELL.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE STAFF DOES THE

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UM, ALSO IT'S TO ESTABLISH PREDICTABLE TOUCH POINTS BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE STAFF.

UM, AND THAT LEADS INTO REALLY THE THIRD THING HERE, COLLECTIVE VERSUS INDIVIDUAL PROJECT DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

FOR OFTEN WE, WE GET A LOT OF INPUT FROM BOARD MEMBERS, CITIZENS AND STAFF INTERNALLY ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT WE VERY RARELY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE PROBLEM.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 20 OR 30 SEWER LINE EXTENSION PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN TOTAL THAT ARE LEFT IN THE COUNTY.

THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW, 70, 80, 90 CONCEPTUAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE AS WELL.

UM, AND STORMWATER, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15, 20, 30.

SO THE PROBLEM IS PRETTY, IT'S NOT JUST ONE.

THESE TWOSIES, WE HAVE A LOT.

AND EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS COST A LOT OF MONEY.

SO THE NEED TO HAVE A, A LOGICAL WAY TO PRIORITIZE THESE THINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHAT THIS IS NOT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE FULL PROJECT SCOPE VIABILITY.

SO ESSENTIALLY ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE CONCEPTUAL, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH DESIGN.

SO WE COULD PRIORITIZE A PROJECT AS NUMBER ONE, THEN GET THROUGH THE DESIGN AND FIGURE OUT IT'S NOT A VIABLE PROJECT EITHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE EASEMENTS RIGHTS AWAY ACCESS PROBLEMS, OR JUST THE COST IS WAY HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BASED OFF UNFORESEEN THINGS, BASICALLY.

UM, WHAT IT ALSO IS NOT IS TO DETERMINE THE FUNDING SOLUTION.

SO THIS COMPLIMENTS THE CIP BASICALLY WE PRIORITIZE HERE, AND THEN WE WORK IN TIME AND SPACE AS WE CAN AFFORD THESE ITEMS IN THE CIP.

SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW THE PROCESS SHOULD WORK.

SO THE TIMELINE, WHERE WE ARE DURING THIS REVISION PROCESS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WE, WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO DO THIS LAST YEAR.

WE, WE INITIALLY KICKED THIS OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

AND LIKE I ALLUDED TO BEFORE, IT WAS A LOT OF DISCOVERY LEARNING.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE LAST PROCESS IN 2010, AND THEY WEREN'T REALLY, THEY WERE TANGENTIALLY INVOLVED BASICALLY.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH IT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN KIND OF GUIDING US.

UM, AS WE SHORTLY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT THE OLD PLANS, FIGURING OUT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS, UM, WE DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY TRANSPORTATION ACTIVE AND VE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WERE NOT REALLY A THING, YOU KNOW, AS BIG A THING, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS TO 2010.

SO IT MADE SENSE TO ROLL THAT UP INTO THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

UM, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THE YELLOW STAR.

UM, SO REALLY JUST ALLUDING TO ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE SO FAR AND WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO GO, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE ON.

UM, AND THEN THE FINAL STAR IS BASICALLY WHEN WE TAKE, WE BASICALLY GRABBING A, A COMPLETED PLAN AND GIVING IT BACK TO YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND HOPEFULLY APPROVE AT THE END OF THIS THING.

SO, SO THE PROCESS, SO THIS IS THE CORE PROCESS BASICALLY THAT WAS DEFINED AND IT'S LARGELY REMAINED UNCHANGED SINCE 1992.

ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS BETWEEN, UH, NUMBER THREE AND FOUR.

UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THE EVALUATION CRITERIA.

WE'VE REFINED PROJECT ROLLUP LIST, UM, AND THEN ALL THE MAPS, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM BUILT ALL THOSE MAPS AGAIN, UM, WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO DO IS WE DO HAVE TO FORM THE EVALUATION COMMITTEES MM-HMM.

AND EVALUATE ALL THESE PROJECTS.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL PACKAGE ALL THIS UP AND GIVE THE BOARD ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE THINGS OR THERE'S QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM AT THAT POINT, BASICALLY.

AND IN THEORY, THIS PROCESS, THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IS GENERALLY EVERY TWO TO FOUR YEARS.

, WE'LL GO THROUGH AND DO THIS PROCESS AND GO THROUGH IT AGAIN BASICALLY.

SO SOME KEY CHANGES FOR THIS REVISION CYCLE.

UM, I ALLUDED TO THERE USED TO BE WATER PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO ESSENTIALLY SHORTLY AFTER 2010, UM, THE WATER ASPECT OF WE DI WE BASICALLY DIVESTED ALL OUR WATER ASSETS TO, UH, NEWPORT NEWS, UH, WATERWORKS MOSTLY FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

UM, TURNED OVER A COUPLE WELL SITES DECOMMISSIONED THEM.

AND OTHER THAN DOING SMALL, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER EXTENSION PROJECTS, THAT'S REALLY OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH WATER ANYMORE.

WE'RE NOT A WATER PROVIDER.

I THINK THE LAST WATER EXTENSION WE DID WAS PATRICK'S CREEK, UH, DRIVE.

WE DO HAVE ONE WATER PROJECT THAT IS IN THE CIP, BUT THEY'RE FAR AND FEW BETWEEN.

I THINK THAT'S CHARLES ROADS.

ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING TRANSPORTATION, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY UTILITIES.

CHARLES ROAD, BASICALLY.

UM, BUT DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY OF 'EM, WE DON'T NEED TO ACTUALLY CYCLE THAT SECTION IN, INTO THIS PROCESS ANYMORE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DID, WE DID SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ACTIVE AND VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION

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TO THIS PROCESS.

THERE ISN'T REALLY AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS FOR HOW WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS.

AND THIS PROCESS LENDS ITSELF PRETTY NICELY TO TAKING A LOOK AT ALL THOSE, PRIORITIZING THEM, AND THEN TRYING TO FIND FUNDING SOURCES TO FUND THEM IN THE CIP BASICALLY.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN 15 YEARS SINCE WE LOOKED AT THIS, SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW, WELL, NOT QUITE A FEW.

THERE ARE SOME EVALUATION CRITERIA, REVISIONS AND ADDITIONS.

AND WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL ON THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES.

AND, UH, THE LAST THING IS NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IT, IT'S REFERRED TO AS THE UTILITY STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN.

UM, WE WANNA CHANGE THE NAME TO JUST STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN FOR UTILITY STORMWATER TRANSPORTATION.

SO THOSE ARE THE REALLY THE KEY CHANGES FOR THIS REVISION CYCLE AS WE SEE THEM.

MM-HMM, .

SO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA.

UM, SO THE SEWER EXTENSION PROJECTS REMAIN LARGELY, LARGELY UNCHANGED.

AND WE'LL, I'LL DIVE INTO EACH ONE OF THESE AS A SEPARATE SLIDE TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE CRITERIA.

BUT ESSENTIALLY SEWER EXTENSION PROJECTS AND THE STORM WATER CRITERIA ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME.

, THERE'S A TWEAK HERE, HERE OR TWO BASED OFF, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS.

OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION, BOTH ACTIVE AND VEHICULAR, THOSE ARE BOTH BRAND NEW BASED OFF ADDING THEM INTO THIS PLAN.

SO FOR SEWER EXTENSION, THE EVALUATION CRITERIA ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE THE EXACT SAME THING THAT THEY WERE IN 1992.

UM, ALL OF THEM STILL APPLY.

UM, THEY ADDRESS HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS.

UM, THE FIFTH ONE WAS BASICALLY ADDED BECAUSE REALLY ALL THE LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR MOST OF THE SEWER EXTENSION PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

WE'RE GETTING TO VERY EXPENSIVE ONES.

SO THERE'S A STRATIFICATION FROM, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM 50, $60,000 PER CONNECTION ALL THE WAY UP TO LIKE FOUR OR $500,000 PER CONNECTION.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF KIND OF FACTORING THAT INTO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA TO TRY AND GET, AS YOU KNOW, THE MOST BANK FOR OUR BUCK, I GUESS IS WHAT THAT CATEGORY IS TRYING TO GET AT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS WHILE, WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS? HOW, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY MORE SLIDES? UM, JUST TWO MORE FOR THE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND I'LL TALK ABOUT FUNDING.

WE GET HIT THOSE TWO AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.

I CAN REMEMBER THAT LONG .

I, HE IS GOTTA A ROLL.

SO FOR THE STORM WATER EVALUATION CRITERIA, ESSENTIALLY ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN 1992.

I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, FIVE AND SIX ARE NEW.

SO GRANT AVAILABILITY AND THEN RESILIENCY.

SO I'LL TOUCH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE FUNDING SLIDE, BUT STORM WATER'S KIND OF A WEIRD ANIMAL BECAUSE, UM, IT MATTER.

WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IS BASED OFF THE MEALS TAX CONTRIBUTION AND THAT'S HOW WE FUND STORMWATER.

WE DON'T HAVE A STORMWATER FEE, RIGHT? LIKE A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO.

UM, SO THE ABILITY TO GET GRANTS AND FUND THESE THINGS.

AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, UM, ARE MORE GRANT READY THAN OTHERS BASICALLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE STATE AND THEN THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS.

SO IT IT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF WE CAN PRIORITIZE ONES THAT WE KNOW WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR, WE CAN DO MORE WITH LESS BASICALLY.

AND THEN RESILIENCY.

RESILIENCY IS KIND OF THE NEW BUZZ WORD.

UM, AND I THINK IN PREVIOUS BOARD SESSIONS, UM, I I THINK YOU'VE BEEN EXPLAINED KIND OF WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UM, THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE, YOU KNOW, SEA LEVEL CHANGE.

SO WE EROSION, SO SHORELINE STABILIZATION, THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

SO WHAT THIS CRITERIA IS TRYING TO GET AT IS ESSENTIALLY GIVING THEM SOME KIND OF PRIORITIZATION.

NOW WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IN THE STORM WATER CATEGORY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT THAT FIT THIS BILL, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO A SHORELINE STABLE.

WE'RE GONNA DO A STUDY BASICALLY.

AND WE WILL DEVELOP MORE PROJECTS FROM THAT STUDY, WHICH WILL THEN APPLY FOR THIS CATEGORY OR THIS, YOU KNOW, NUMBER SIX ON THIS CHART RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN ACTIVE AND THEN VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION.

THESE ARE ALL BRAND NEW.

SO BETH AND CAITLIN WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN KIND OF LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD ENTAIL GOOD CRITERIA TO LOOK AT ALL THESE CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ALLUDE TO CONNECTABILITY AND SAFETY, THAT'S KIND OF THE COMMON THEME ACROSS, UM, BOTH ACTIVE AND VEHICULAR.

SO SAME THING, VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION, SAFETY, UM, GROWTH FACTORS, PRETTY CONSISTENT AS WELL.

BEHIND THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, ESSENTIALLY THAT EXCEL DOCUMENT IS THE, IS THE, UH, PROJECT ROLL UP SHEETS FOR EACH CATEGORY AND THEN HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED.

AND THEN THE PROJECT ROLLUP SHEETS.

SO THOSE ARE ALL IN YOUR, THOSE ARE IN YOUR BOOKS AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY ALL THE PROJECTS FOR EACH CATEGORY.

UM, WE TRIED TO KEEP IT BETWEEN 10 AND 20 TO MAKE IT MANAGEABLE AND THIS IS WHAT WE KIND OF ENDED UP WITH.

AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SHEET

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SO LIKE I, LIKE I SAID, THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED VERY DIFFERENTLY.

SO SEWER LINE EXTENSIONS, UH, THE COUNTY HAS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND BASICALLY THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH USER AND CONNECTION FEES.

WE GET ABOUT, GENERALLY ABOUT 10 AND A HALF, $11 MILLION A YEAR IN REVENUE BASED OFF THAT FUND.

OUR FEE IS $54 BIMONTHLY RIGHT NOW IS WHERE IT'S SET AT.

ALSO, WE GET MEALS TAX.

SO GENERALLY, SO BASICALLY VIA BOARD POLICY, I THINK IT WAS 19 19 88, 19 90 TIMEFRAME, A POLICY WAS SET UP WHERE 50% OF THE MEALS TAX GOES TO THE SCHOOLS.

THE OTHER 50 GOES TO, UM, SEWER LINE AND STORM WATER PROJECTS BASICALLY TO HELP FUND.

SO THAT ENABLES US TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN CASH AND, AND NOT HAVE TO DEBT FINANCE, SOME OF THEM.

UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF SEWER LINE EXTENSION PROJECTS ARE, ARE PAID VIA WITH BONDS BECAUSE THE PROJECT WE'RE ONGOING RIGHT NOW IS WHITES FAULKNER.

THAT'S GONNA ESSENTIALLY BE A 15 $20 MILLION PROJECT AND THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN PAY FOR THAT IN CASH.

SO GENERALLY THAT'S, THAT'S THE METHODOLOGY WE USE FOR SEWER LINE EXTENSIONS.

AND THEN WE, WE DO GET GRANTS AS WELL.

WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT UC, SOME RECENT SUCCESS.

UM, WE GOT A FEDERAL EARMARK GRANT LAST YEAR FOR WHITES FALTER IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE $1 MILLION.

AND WE APPLY IT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING ANOTHER 1.6 MILLION FOR ANOTHER COUPLE SEWER PROJECTS.

UM, THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FORWARDED TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT AND I THINK ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL GET THAT FUNDING AS WELL.

UM, LIKE I SAID, FOR STORMWATER PROJECTS, THEY'RE RELYING ON, ON THE SHARE OF THE MEALS TAX BETWEEN THE SEWER PROJECTS AND THE STORMWATER PROJECTS.

THAT'S THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR CAPITAL ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THEY'RE PAID OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, ALSO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT WE THAT, AND, AND THAT'S WHY GRANTS ARE SO IMPORTANT.

SO A LOT OF GRANTS, SO THERE, A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED BY GRANTS AS WELL.

UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S, THAT'S STRICTLY THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, AND THEN STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS, THERE'S VARIOUS VDOT REVENUE SHARE PROGRAMS AND UH, FEDERAL PROGRAMS AS WELL.

UM, THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITH.

UM, REALLY THE NEXT STEPS, UM, PENDING YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THE BOARD IS GOOD WITH THE EVALUATION CRITERIA.

WE WILL TAKE THAT AND WE WILL FORM COMMITTEES AND EVALUATE ALL THESE PROJECTS.

UM, WE'LL COLLECT ALL THE FORMATTING OF THE FINANCIAL CASH FLOWS 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE FRONT OF THE, UH, OF THE DRAFT PLAN WHEN WE PRESENT IT TO YOU, WHEN WE COME AROUND AGAIN.

AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE A FINAL TOUCH POINT WITH THE BOARD.

WE'LL TAKE THE DRAFT PLAN TO YOU IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES OR ANY REPRIORITIZATION THAT'S NEEDED, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE THE BOARD IS SATISFIED WITH THE PLAN, LOOKS LIKE WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLISH AND APPROVE, PUBLISH THE APPROVED PLAN AND PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE'LL START WITH MR. SHEPHERD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

CAN WE GO BACK TO YOUR, UH, CRITERIA FOR SEWAGE? OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA THROW A LITTLE TWIST IN THIS FOR YOU.

SURE.

UM, YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT I THINK THE BOOK, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE BOOK, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER ALL THE PARTS OF IT.

BUT ANYWAY, THERE WERE A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YES, SIR, THAT NEEDED SEWAGE, UH, STILL ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS. UM, SO I'M KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT JUST HOW TO PUT THIS, BUT IT'S, IT, THIS IS, I'M KIND OF TELL YOU A STORY.

SO I GET ELECTED, I COME TO OFFICE 2002 AND DURING MY CAMPAIGNING I WAS HEARING SEWAGE.

THAT'S ALL I'M HEARING.

SEWAGE.

GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SEWAGE.

AND IT WAS ON, UM, KERRY'S CHAPEL.

THAT WAS ONE WHICH WE TOOK, WE TOOK CARE OF REALLY QUICK.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS ABOUT THE BIG BETHEL ROAD.

SO, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, AND I BE HONEST WITH YOU, AT THAT TIME I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE CRITERIA AND THE, AND THE LAYOUT.

SO I REALLY GOT SMART ON IT THOUGH.

UH, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

NOTHING, IT HASN'T CHANGED MUCH.

BUT THE THING IS, WE, WE DIDN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE FOCUSED ON IT A LOT BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR MONEY WENT TO ONE WAS GOING TO ONE PROJECT.

TOM, WE GIVE YOU A PROJECTION BASED UPON HOW THE MONEY'S FLOWING AND EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE THEY VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND I THINK WE, WE DID THE ONE OF QUEENS LAKE AND IT WAS LIKE THAT $19 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

AND SO WHEN YOU DO A BIG PROJECT LIKE THAT, GUESS WHAT? THE REST OF 'EM JUST, YEAH.

YOU GO BY, YOU GO FOR YEARS AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

RIGHT? WELL THE FOLKS, UH, IN UH, EDS AT THAT TIME, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, OKAY

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AND, AND PROJECTION WOULD BE THAT WE'D TAKE CARE OF BIG BETHEL ROAD AROUND 2027.

ALRIGHT, WELL THIS IS 2024.

WELL, UM, THAT WAS A LOT OF YEARS OUT.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 20 SOME YEARS AND I KEPT TELLING PEOPLE, YOU GOTTA BE PATIENT, YOU GOTTA BE PATIENT, YOU GOTTA BE PATIENT.

ALRIGHT, SO TIME MARCHES ALONG AND UM, ACTUALLY WE'RE THE FIRST ONES, IT WAS GONNA BE SOONER THAN THAT, BUT UM, 10 YEARS PASSED.

WE WERE STILL GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO IT, JUST GONNA GET IT.

PEOPLE WERE TRYING BEGGING HOW, HOW CAN WE GET OFF OUR SEPTIC SYSTEMS BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO CONSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COUPLE YEARS GOING IN, HAVE IT CLEANED OUT AND SOME OF 'EM WERE COLLAPSING AND FAILING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE JUMP, WE JUMP FORWARD 20 YEARS.

AND THIS, THEY'RE KIND OF GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW 20 YEARS OLDER AND A LOT OF 'EM GOING, WELL I DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO THIS NOW.

AND UH, SO I SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET YOU A SEWER.

WELL I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN AFFORD IT BECAUSE GOTTA COME IN AND PAY ALL THE CONNECTION FEES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THE POINT IS HERE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA THAT WE GOT THESE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE NOW BEEN PROMISED FOR 20 SOME YEARS, AND HOW ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY PRIORITIZED? NOW WE CAN SIT THERE AND PRIORITIZE 'EM BASED ON, YOU KNOW, POLLUTION OF THE RIVERS, UH, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT, BUT THEN WE KEEP ADDING DEVELOPMENTS.

LOTS, ACRES IS A KIND OF A PRIMARY EXAMPLE.

WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE ADDING NEW NEIGHBORHOODS 20 YEARS AFTER THE FIRST PROBLEM AND THEN NOT MAKING IT BETTER.

WE'RE MAKING IT WORSE.

SO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THAT? SO THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING IN LINE HERE FOR 20 OVER 20 YEARS NOW ARE GONNA GET A SEWER SYSTEM.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT SIX PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE EXISTING 2010 LIST THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE IN BIG BETHEL ROAD AS ONE OF THOSE WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN PACKAGE THOSE UP OR UM, ESSENTIALLY PUT THEM TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE CRITERIA THAT MAKES SENSE TO THE REST OF THE BOARD.

'CAUSE I WANNA BE FAIR, I TRULY WANNA BE FAIR.

I'VE BEEN FAIR, TRY TO BE FAIR FOR 22 YEARS NOW, BUT I WANNA BE FAIR AND I WANNA DO IT RIGHT AND I'M GONNA DO IT.

AND IT USED TO BE SOMETHING WE WOULD TALK ABOUT.

ONE OF THE CRITERIA WOULD BE WHICH ONE HAD THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THE MOST NUMBER OF LARGEST NUMBER OF HOMES.

I, I DON'T SEE THAT IN HERE.

THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE COST FACTOR.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH.

WELL, WE, I THINK WE TOOK THAT ONE AWAY BASICALLY.

WELL THAT USED TO BE A DRIVE.

IT USED TO BE A BIG DRIVING POINT.

WE'RE DOWN TO SMALLER PROJECTS NOW.

SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, I THOUGHT I SAW ONE IN THERE WAS STILL LIKE 13, $14 MILLION.

I MAY BE WRONG.

I'LL, OKAY, GOOD.

IF THEY'RE ALL SMALL PROJECTS, WELL THEN THE, THE CRITERIA IS GOTTA BE, SO IT'D BE FAIR WITH THESE FOLKS THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN SITTING THERE WAITING FOR 20 SOME YEARS, THEY OUGHT TO BE GIVEN A, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF, BIT OF A CRITERIA AS THEY GET IN FRONT OF THE LINE.

NOW I'LL GO TO ONE OF DOUG'S FAVORITE, UH, PROJECTS DOWN THERE.

WHAT'S THAT STREET? THAT ROAD? I THINK IT'S CALLED SPRINGFIELD.

YEAH, THAT'S, IS SPRINGFIELD OKAY ABOUT THAT? I FORGET IT.

I WANT, I WANT HIM TO SAY IT.

JUST, JUST, OKAY.

SPRINGFIELD ROAD JUST COMES TO MIND.

NOW IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, HERE'S A, HERE'S UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WENT IN BIG NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THESE FOLKS AND THESE, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN LIVING ON THAT ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THEIR 12, 13 HOMES DOWN IN THERE? 22.

AND THEY'RE DUMPING RAW SEWAGE RIGHT INTO THE CREEK STRAIGHT PIPE.

RIGHT FROM THE TOILET RIGHT INTO THE CREEK.

THAT'S DISGUSTING.

AND WE TOOK CARE OF IT.

BUT THE THING IS, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL WE HAD A PROBLEM DOWN THERE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO SOMEWHERE IN HERE, THE COUNTY STAFF HAS GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE HOMES ARE THAT DO NOT HAVE, UH, SEWAGE, SEWAGE AND JUST GO OUT AND FIGURE WHERE THESE THINGS ARE.

'CAUSE WE, WE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FIXING THESE THINGS.

SO THAT TO ME WOULD BE SORT OF A PRIORITY SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S ON RIGHT ON THE CREEK DOWN THERE.

THAT'S WHY YOU'D WANNA DO IT.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO A PRIORITY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BUILD A NEW ROAD OR PAVE THAT ROAD AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND TEAR IT UP.

SO HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT ONE IN HERE WHERE WE DON'T WANNA BE TEARING UP A ROAD THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT NEW ROAD DOWN ON TOP OF THE SEWER SYSTEM.

HOW WILL YOU, HOW DO YOU CAPTURE THAT KIND OF, I MEAN, SO ESSENTIALLY SPRINGFIELD ROAD'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CASE.

IT WAS ALREADY IN THE CIP LAST YEAR.

SO ESSENTIALLY ONCE A PROJECT IS IN THE CIP WE DON'T, IT GOT SHOEHORNED IN THERE.

IT DID, YEAH.

SO IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO THERE IS A BIT OF A REN NORMING THAT IS GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THESE ARE SMALLER PROJECTS.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS, I, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO PACKAGE QUITE A FEW OF THESE TOGETHER TO GET MORE BANK FOR YOUR BUCK AND GET THINGS DONE QUICKER.

SO WE JUST, BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO CAPTURE IT IN A, IN A, I USED YOU SAY A RATIONAL SENSE.

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SO THAT WE, WE WILL KNOW IN THE FUTURE THAT, OKAY, THIS ONE'S BEEN ON, ON THE BOOKS FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE DECADES.

IT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

IT JUST SIMPLY NEEDS TO GET DONE.

UH, AND HOW YOU CAPTURE THAT, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU GUYS WITH 18 POUND BRAINS GO OUT THERE AND FIGURE IT OUT.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

BUT THE POINT IS, ABSOLUTELY WE CAN'T HAVE OUR CITIZENS SITTING HERE WAITING FOREVER FOR SOMETHING THAT NEVER SHOWS UP.

ESPECIALLY IF WE KEEP PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER SITUATION.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE, I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE MAPS AND I'M KIND OF WONDERING, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE, UM, SOME OF 'EM HAD A LOT OF HOMES IN 'EM AND, AND THEY WEREN'T HOMES, THEY WERE JUST PROPERTIES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE GO IN THERE AND LIKE WE DID DANDY DANDY WOULDN'T PERK AND SO HE COULDN'T BUILD HOMES IN THERE.

BUT WE PUT SEWER SYSTEM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, DANDY MAN, IT WAS THE LOTS WENT FROM $2,000 TO, I DON'T KNOW, 30, 40, $50,000.

SO WE ARE ADDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO HOW ARE WE PRIOR PRIORITIZING THAT? AND AS A SUPERVISOR, I'M SITTING HERE WONDERING AND REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT EVERY TIME WE COME IN HERE AND WE PUT A SEWER LINE DOWN, CAN THE PEOPLE AFFORD IT? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE GOING TO HELP OUT AND ARE WE ADDING MORE AND MAKING IT MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING A MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

BECAUSE IF I'M A LANDOWNER AND I GOT A BIG HUNK OF LAND AND I'M GETTING OLD AND I'M GONNA SELL IT, GUESS WHAT? I'M GONNA DIVIDE IT UP, GO FIND IT.

I'M GONNA GO FIND A DEVELOPER AND HAVE 'EM COME IN AND BUILD A LOT OF HOMES ON IT.

SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE AS SUPERVISORS HAVE TO FACE.

AND IT SHOULD BE SOMEHOW CAPTURED IN THE CRITERIA.

WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BEFORE.

THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD.

MR. DURRY.

SO, UM, I THINK ON THE CRITERIA, I, I DO AGREE TOM HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT, I'M NOT SURE 'CAUSE I'M NEW ON ALL OF THIS, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M WITH TOM.

I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME SET CRITERIA, AND I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW, RIGHT? UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN ON THE BOOKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

, UM, HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST FOR EACH ONE AS WE PRIORITIZE THINGS AND IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT LOGICALLY AND SAY, YEAH, THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING 20 YEARS AND WHY HAVEN'T THEY GOT SEWER? BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER PATCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING IT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE PUSHED TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EQUITABLE.

AND SO I'M GONNA BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOUR CRITERIA IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE CAN BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.

NOT JUST CERTAIN ONES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW SUB SUBDIVISION GOING IN AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR 20 YEARS.

UH, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WAITING.

SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, WHEN YOU PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW MM-HMM, HOW MANY YEARS IS THAT GONNA INCORPORATE? DO YOU OR DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION OF HOW LONG THAT WILL BE? I MEAN, SO WHEN YOU, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THIS LAST PLAN.

SO 2010 WAS, WAS WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED.

UH, I THINK THERE WERE ABOUT 20 PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THAT LIST.

THERE WERE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX THAT ARE REMAINING THAT DIDN'T GET DONE YET.

SO IN ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A 15 YEAR PERIOD, THEY, THEY, THEY WORKED THROUGH APPROXIMATELY, YOU KNOW, 14, 15 PROJECT AREAS.

UM, AND THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE LARGER PROJECTS TOO.

WHAT WE HAVE ON THE LIST NOW, WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO SMALLER PROJECTS.

SO LIKE I SAID, THERE IS THE ABILITY TO PACKAGE A LOT OF THESE TOGETHER, WHICH MIGHT SPEED THINGS ALONG.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 15 YEARS, I THINK I SAW IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES THIS SHOULD BE HAPPENING EVERY TWO TO FOUR YEARS.

IT SHOULD BE OKAY.

SO ARE YOU TELLING ME WE'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER A PLAN AND THEN TWO TO FOUR YEARS WE'RE GONNA REDO THE PLAN? ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GONNA JUST VALIDATE IT, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN, THERE MIGHT BE A FEW CHANGES HERE OR THERE BASED OFF THE PASSAGE OF TIME.

BUT GENERALLY IF YOU LOOK YEAR TO YEAR IN THE PLANS THAT FROM 1992 TO 2010 BETWEEN THOSE LISTS, THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF VARIABLE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES.

THERE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A PREFERENCE CHANGE HERE OR THERE AND, AND RANK ORDER.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHEN PROJECTS ARE DONE, THEY GET TAKEN OFF THE LIST AND YOU MIGHT ADD ONE OR TWO INTO THE MIX BASICALLY.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND MAKE SURE THE CRITERIA IS SET.

AND WE'RE STICKING TO OUR CRITERIA TOO, FOR THE MOST PART.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, ALL THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST BY THE YEAR THAT THEY WERE PUT ON THE LIST.

AND THEN THE POINTS THAT YOU ASSIGNED TO THEM FROM THE CRITERIA THAT YOU USE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT OF EVALUATING THEM, WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE EVALUATION CRITERIA SHEET, WHICH WILL SHOW IN THE FINAL DRAFT WE GIVE

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TO ALL OF YOU.

IT'LL SHOW HOW THEY'RE RANKED AND WHY THEY'RE RANKED THE WAY THEY ARE.

THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE SHEET FOR EACH PROJECT, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED BACK AT, AT OLD ONES.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT, THE ONE THAT I HAVE IN MY HAND WAS 1999.

OF THE ONES THAT WERE ON THE LIST.

AND MOST OF THOSE I THINK YOU'VE DONE MORAL BANK WAS PROBABLY THE, THAT WASN'T THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE.

THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE WAS BRANDYWINE.

AND THAT WAS $1,150,000 WAY BACK THEN.

SO YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD COST.

NOW WE WERE TRYING TO, WELL WE KNOW WHAT IT COST OF WHITE FAUL, WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT IT COST OF WHITE FARER AND WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.

WHITE, WHITE FAULKNER IS ESTIMATED TO BE 17.

SO ESSENTIALLY IF YOU, IF YOU ADD UP BASICALLY FROM 1992 TO NOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE A WAY HOW WE CAN KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE HOPE IS THAT WE WILL GET EVERYBODY ON SEWER EVENTUALLY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THERE WILL BE SOME AREAS THAT YOU CANNOT TOUCH BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT'S ECONOMICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

THE BIG PIECES OF LAND AND, AND THE APPROACH IS NOT, NOT THERE.

BUT THE ONES THAT WE SHOULD, THE ONES WE CAN TAKE CARE OF, WE SHOULD REALLY WORK ON THAT.

EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PUT MORE, I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY, 50% FROM THE FOOD AND YOU GET OTHER MONEY, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD AN ANOTHER FUND TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. WELL, ESSENTIALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE RATE AS WELL.

SO THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN AT THE CON A CONSISTENT RATE OF ABOUT 52 TO 54.

BIMONTHLY SINCE 19, OR NO, 2018.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE GONNA NEED A RATE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT MAYBE THE YEAR AFTER.

AND THAT FACTORS INTO THIS AS WELL.

AFFORDABILITY.

ALRIGHT, MR. ROY? WELL, I THINK WHAT I LEARNED TONIGHT IS I HAVE TO BE ON THE BOARD FOR 20 YEARS TO GET SEWER PROJECTS DONE, .

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MY LIST, WAYNE? I, I'M NOT SURE I SIGNED UP FOR THAT.

WELL, GOOD LUCK ON THAT ONE.

I, I WAS CONCERNED THAT, UM, YOU'VE GATHERED, UH, ROADS AND BICYCLE LANES INTO THE UTILITIES BOOK.

SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT HAPPIER TO SEE THE FUNDING BREAKDOWN.

AND IN FACT, SEWERS AND, AND, UM, STORM WATER ARE PAID FOR BY A VERY DIFFERENT FUND THAN THEY'RE NOT COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER.

AND THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF THE CONCERN.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU, YOU SEE IT ALL LUMPED TOGETHER, ROADS COULD CLEARLY TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE PIECE OF THE PIE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'D BE NOTHING LEFT.

UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH THAT.

I DIDN'T HAVE TOO MANY COMMENTS ON THE CRITERIA.

, MY QUESTIONS ARE ALL AROUND, UH, WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS, SHOULD THIS BE A HUNDRED PERCENT PAID FOR BY YORK COUNTY.

SO I, I WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE EXAMPLES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE ALL REQUIRED TO GO TO, TO SEWER LINES INSTEAD OF, UH, SEPTIC.

WHAT ABOUT OUR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS? DOES CHET MANICS AND UH, YORKTOWN, UH, NAVAL STATION AND CAMP PERRY ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO A SEWER? SHOULD THEY BE PAYING PART OF THIS PROJECT? SO AS I, WELL, SO THEY HAVE INDEPENDENT SYSTEMS THAT FEED INTO OUR NETWORK.

UM, AND IT, IT'S, OTHER THAN US MAINTAINING A, A PUMP STATION ON THE COAST GUARD STATION, YOU KNOW, THE CAMP PERRY AND THE NAVAL WEAPON STATIONS, THEY FEED DIRECTLY TO HRSD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, IT DOESN'T TOUCH OUR COLLECTIONS.

CAN WE FEED INTO THEIR SYSTEM? NO.

NOPE.

IT WAS WORTH A TRIAL.

WALLER MILL, UM, IS, IS ESSENTIALLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG.

ALL THE LAND AROUND WALLER MILL.

AND YET WE'RE PAYING FOR THE RAVINE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE PAYING FOR ALL THE SEWER LINES GOING INTO SHANK AND ARBORDALE AND ELSEWHERE, AND GETTING ESSENTIALLY NOTHING FOR IT.

THE CITY PAYS NO PROPERTY TAX.

UH, IS IT TIME THAT WE STARTED CHARGING THEM FOR THE WATER? CAN WE CHARGE THEM FOR THE WATER? FOR WHAT? WATER? WATER.

WATER.

THE WATERWORKS, THE WATER MILL THAT'S IN YOUR IS INDEPENDENTLY.

THEY'RE EITHER THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EITHER JCSA OR THEIR WATERWORKS UP IN THAT REGION.

IT'S IN COUNTY, THERE'S NOTHING BUT COUNTY.

WE'RE NOT A WATER PROVIDER.

SO ANYHOW, IT, IT'S, IT BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHY, WHERE THE CITY OWNS SO MUCH LAND INSIDE THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S THE AREA WHERE WE NEED TO BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS.

WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT, UH, SO I THINK MOST OF THAT LAND IS RESOURCE CONSERVATION, SO THEY CAN'T BUILD ON IT ANYWAYS AROUND WALLER MILL.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

THE POINT IS WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THEIR WATER REMAINS PRISTINE.

I MEAN THAT, THAT'S FAIR WITH SHAKA STATE ESPECIALLY, UM, THE SHORELINE RESTOR, UH, RESTORATION.

RESTORATION, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHICH SHORELINE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BUT IF IT'S THE YORK RIVER, THEN I'D BE ASKING THE SAME

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QUESTION.

SHOULD THE NATIONAL PARKS BE SUPPORTING US IN THE COST OF THAT WORK? IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THEY SHOULD BE.

AND THEN THE BIKE LANES, UH, WAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A BIKE LANE FROM POTENTIALLY THE WEAPON STATION TO MARQUEE AND THEN FROM MARQUEE TO CHEETAH ANNEX.

AND YET I SEE, UH, CHEETAH ANNEX TO GOVERNMENT ROAD INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE SHOULD WE BE GETTING JOINT FUNDING.

SO IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISIONS MM-HMM.

WE SHOULD BE BRANCHING OUT AND LOOKING AT, ARE ANY OF THESE VIABLE FOR JOINT FUNDING INSTEAD OF JUST YORK COUNTY PAYING FOR IT? SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A LOT OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, REVENUE SHARE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, GRANTS, FUNDING STREAMS, STATE, FEDERAL, UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS PROCESS JUST PRIORITIZES THOSE PROJECTS.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.

I I READ THE BOOK THOROUGHLY.

I AGREE.

BY AND LARGE WITH, UH, YOUR PRIORITIZATION.

I JUST THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING THAT WE CONTINUE TO NEED TO DRILL DOWN ON.

THANKS.

SURE.

GOOD JOB ON THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU MENTIONED IN A EARLIER SLIDE ABOUT, UM, ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH BOARD MEMBERS.

WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BE READY FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS? AND, UM, SO ESSENTIALLY IF, IF, IF ALL OF YOU ARE OKAY, ONCE I, WHAT I'M HEARING IS I GUESS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CRITERIA AND ADJUST FOR, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THERE PREVIOUSLY.

SO WE'RE GONNA NEED A COUPLE WEEKS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT.

UM, WHAT I'LL DO IS, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL GET WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATION MARK AND, AND TRY AND SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE COME UP WITH, I GUESS SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE CRITERIA TO TRY AND ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, UM, WE'LL GO AND THEN ONCE WE, WE CAN SET UP THOSE ONE-ON-ONES AND DO THAT POINT.

SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED A COUPLE WEEKS TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE CRITERIA.

UM, TAKE IN ALL THE COMMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDED.

UM, 'CAUSE ESSENTIALLY WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS FY 27 BY THE TIME THIS IS GONNA BE DONE ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE TIME TO WORK THIS ALL TO WHERE THIS INPUTS INTO FY 27 CIP.

UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS MORE, THESE REVIEWS MORE FREQUENTLY.

IT'S 15 YEARS.

CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID THE LAST TIME.

YOU LOSE EXPERTISE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE LAST TIME.

SO EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS MAY BE A BIT TOO FREQUENT JUST BECAUSE OF HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO ACTUALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THESE PROJECTS.

BUT YOU GUYS WORK OUT WHAT THE RIGHT FREQUENCY IS THERE.

SOUNDS GOOD.

WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SIX FIGURES TO DO A SINGLE HOOKUP TO A HOME, WE REALLY NEED TO START GETTING CREATIVE ON HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

MAYBE OUTSIDE OF MM-HMM.

RUNNING THE SEWER LINE LIKE MR. SHE SHEPHERD SAYS WE REALLY NEED TO BE SENSITIVE YEAH.

ON NOT ONLY OUR COST, BUT THE COST TO THE RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IT GONNA COST THEM TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR EXISTING SEPTIC TANK? WAS THERE TO COST THEM TO GET THEM TO RUN.

HAVE A PLUMBER TO RUN THAT LINE.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE RUNNING A 300 YARD LINE, IT GETS REALLY COST PROHIBITIVE PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO WE GOTTA FACTOR ALL THAT IN.

AND THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON SEWER EXTENSION, WHICH IS GREAT.

LIKE MR NO SAID WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THE SEWER RIGHT PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE.

BUT WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE SEWER NETWORK.

WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF PUMP HOUSES.

IS THE CONVERSATION, THE PLAN ALSO TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REVITALIZE AND, AND, AND YEAH.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE HAVE 87 PUMP STATIONS AND ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE TO DO ONE TO TWO A YEAR YEP.

TO KEEP PACE.

THAT'S TO AN AVERAGE CITIZEN OR A BOARD MEMBER.

WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THE COLLECTION SYSTEM AND THE PUMP STATION WORK.

SO HOW WE PRIORITIZE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, IT HASN'T BEEN CONTROVERSIAL IN THE PAST EITHER IF IT'S 50 YEARS OLD OR YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OLD, IT'S STILL GONNA WORK AND BE SEAMLESS TO A CITIZEN BASICALLY.

UM, SO WE HAVE A SEPARATE PROCESS FOR HOW WE KIND OF INTERNALLY LOOK AT ALL THE PUMP STATIONS AND GENERALLY, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO PAY FOR THOSE IN CASH.

BUT THAT IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE AS WELL TO DO A FULL REHAB LIKE BRANDYWINE OR HICKORY HILLS, WHICH WE'RE DOING NOW.

IT'S TWO TO $3 MILLION AND THAT'S ONE PUMP STATION.

WE HAVE 87 OF THEM.

BUT IT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAN WHAT IT IS YOU HAVE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

THANK AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WE WILL BE MEETING, UM, HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE THEN.

THAT WRAPS UP OUR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE EVENING.

WE'RE MOVING INTO, UM, UH,

[CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]

CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD.

I HAVE TWO FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.

UH, FIRST TO SPEAK IS, UH, CAROL EDLO YOUR PHONE DOWN.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GOING.

CAN YOU PULL THAT DOWN? PULL IT DOWN.

THERE YOU GO.

HOW'S THAT? IS THAT ALL RIGHT? LOUD, LOWER THAN THAT? YES MA'AM.

YOU'RE GOOD.

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GOOD EVENING.

DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ADMINISTRATORS AND CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY.

MY NAME IS CAROL EDLO AND I LIVE AT 1 0 3 HALE CIRCLE, UH, YORKTOWN IN THE RIVERWALK TOWN SUBDIVISION.

I AM HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR SUBDIVISION RIVERWALK TOWNS ROUTE 2 38 OLD WILLIAMSBURG ROAD AND GUZ LEE ROAD.

I FIRST CAME TO YOU IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, 2023.

ACTUALLY IT WAS SEPTEMBER 19TH, UM, WITH NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS WHO TRAVEL THAT INTERSECTION DAILY AFTER A SERIOUS TRAFFIC ACCIDENT OCCURRED THERE ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023.

AFTER HEARING FROM US THAT EVENING, THEN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CHAIRMAN THOMAS SHEPHERD, OUR THEN SUPERVISOR, MR. CHAD GREEN, ALONG WITH SHERIFF MONTGOMERY, PROMISED TO HELP US MITIGATE THIS SITUATION.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS WAS A PROCESS THAT COULD TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE, AND THAT OUR CONCERN WAS ONE OF MANY IN THE COMMONWEALTH THAT NEEDED ATTENTION.

ALSO, THE FACT THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO FATALITIES AT THAT INTERSECTION WAS A FACTOR IN THE ATTENTION THAT THIS INTERSECTION WOULD RECEIVE.

AND OUR FAVOR WAS THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT EXCEEDED THE SPEED LIMIT DURING THE TRAFFIC STUDIES OF V-V-D-O-T-V-O-T AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THE DEEP CURVE ON OLD WILLIAMSBURG ROAD APPROACHING OUR SUBDIVISION AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WERE REROUTED ONTO WILLIAMSBURG ROAD DUE TO ONGOING CONSTRUCTION ON THE COLONIAL PARKWAY.

, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INFORM YOU THAT AFTER EXACTLY ONE YEAR AND ONE MONTH ON OCTOBER 9TH, 2024, VDOT BEGAN INSTALLING SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AT THAT INTERSECTION.

RIVERWALK TOWN SUBDIVISION RESIDENTS AND ALL DRIVERS USING THAT INTERSECTION NOW HAVE A MUCH SAFER EXPERIENCE.

FOR THIS REASON, I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED US MAKE THIS INTERSECTION SAFER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY THANK MRS. SHIRLEY COOPER, A PASS YOUR COUNTY BOARD MEMBER AND PASS VIRGINIA HOUSE DELEGATE FOR HER HELP IN STRATEGIZING AND ATTENDING MEETINGS WITH US.

A THANK YOU ALSO TO MR. CHAD GREEN, DELEGATE TO THE VIRGINIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO WHOM WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS PROBLEM WHEN HE WAS A BOARD MEMBER HERE AND WHO DID NOT FORGET US WHEN HE LEFT TO SERVE IN RICHMOND.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO SHERIFF RON MONTGOMERY, WHO MET WITH US AND HELPED US STRATEGIZE AND CONDUCT THE ROAD STUDIES EVEN WHILE HE WAS IN THE MIDST OF HIS SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN FOR SHERIFF.

THANK YOU TO SUPERVISOR WAYNE DREWRY WHO ATTENDED OUR MEETING WITH THE READ ADMINISTRATOR.

AND MOST ESPECIALLY THANK YOU TO ROSSI CARROLL VDOT ADMINISTRATOR WHO CAME TO MEET WITH US, SHARED THE RESULTS OF THE VDOT STUDIES, AND TOLD US WHAT WE COULD REALISTICALLY EXPECT.

THIS WAS TRULY A COMBINED COMMUNITY EFFORT.

THANK YOU TO OUR NEGOTIATING TEAM, THE ERS, THE CONFESSORS WHO HELPED COLLECT PETITION SIGNATURES.

AND TO THOSE OF YOU WHO SPOKE AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETINGS ON BEHALF OF THESE IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR, WE COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN ANY OF THIS DONE WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

UH, NEXT UP, UH, AUTHOR EDLO.

GOOD E EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

GOOD EVENING, CAPTAIN NICOLE.

BUT I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THE OFFICERS WORK LATE.

SO BY THE TIME THEY GET OFF FROM WORK AND GET HERE, THE MEETING'S ABOUT OVER.

SO I'M SPEAKING ON THAT BEHALF, THEIR BEHALF AND THE EFFORTS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD AT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND WE WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR LISTENING TO US AND HELPING ALSO.

UH, OUR FORMER BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, CHAD GREEN, HELPED PUT THIS INTO ACTION.

AND ALSO OUR SUPERVISOR AND FORMER, UH, SUPERVISOR, UH, DALE GREEN AND BOARD SUPERVISOR AND SHERIFF RON MONTGOMERY HELPED US AND CHRISTOPHER ROSSIE CARROLL OF VDOT TRANSPORTATION

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OPERATION.

THE HAMPTON DISTRICT HELPED US WITH ALL THAT COMBINATION AND YOUR SUPPORT.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

'CAUSE IT WAS TALKED ABOUT MAYBE 2, 3, 4, 5 YEARS.

AND WE SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, PEOPLE ARE DYING AND CRASHING ON THAT END AND IT GOT DONE LESS THAN A YEAR'S TIME.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND THE NEIGHBORS COME AND TELL US THANK YOU.

BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TIME OR THEY DON'T WANT TO COME UP HERE 'CAUSE THEY GET NERVOUS TALKING TO YOU GUYS, SO THEY TELL US.

SO WE ARE TELLING YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

INTO COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS.

ALRIGHT, THAT IS ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP RIGHT ON ROLLING HERE.

I'M GONNA MOVE

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]

ANYTHING TO SHARE? I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC, ALTHOUGH I KNOW MR. ROY HAS A MATTER HE WISHES ME TO ADDRESS DURING HIS TIME.

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]

ADMINISTRATOR.

COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS.

MR. BELLAMY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, AS A FEW OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED, UH, WE DID ATTEND THE VACO CONFERENCE, UH, LAST WEEK, AND YOU HAD ASKED THAT MAYBE I COULD SHARE A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

UH, THERE WERE LOTS OF SESSIONS AND I KNOW WE ALL DIDN'T SEE THE SAME THING.

SO MAYBE THE SHARING HERE WILL, WILL HELP US A LITTLE BIT.

FIRST, A FOLLOW ON COMMENT TO MR. GREEN'S COMMENT ABOUT THE STATE BUDGET.

THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND FROM FEMA, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND FOR ADMINISTRATORS, WHAT SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT IN THESE TYPES OF AN EMERGENCY? SO IT WAS A REAL WORLD PRACTICAL APPLICATION.

, UH, THE PRESENTATION THAT WE SAW, UH, INDICATED THAT STATE'S BUDGET IS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.

UH, THE REVENUES ARE OVER PROJECTIONS.

UH, THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY THAT THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, CONTINUES TO BE AN AREA OF CONCERN IS THE MEDICARE EXPENSES ARE CONSIDERABLY OVER, UH, WHAT THEY BUDGETED FOR.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DAMPER ON THE STATE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO, TO CRUSH OUR DREAMS. SO HOPEFULLY WE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I DID ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, THERE, THERE IS ENOUGH OF A RESERVE, UH, SURPLUS THAT THE STATE IS ALSO, UH, BANKING MONEY FOR SOME FUTURE FINANCIAL CRISIS IN ADDITION TO THE MONEY THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD SET ASIDE.

SO, UH, THEY, THEY ARE, UH, THINKING PRUDENTLY FOR OUR FINANCES.

UH, I DID ATTEND A, UH, PEER-TO-PEER LEARNING SESSION, UH, THAT WAS SPONSORED BY THE VIRGINIA LOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.

IT WAS, UH, CENTERED AROUND, UH, RECRUITMENT FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE ARE ALL HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.

AND THE OVERARCHING THEMES OF THAT WERE WHAT WE NEED TO BE OFFERING AND TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO THOSE CANDIDATES THAT MIGHT WANT TO COME TO WORK HERE.

UH, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, BALANCES WORK LIFE BALANCE, A REASONABLE COMPENSATION STRATEGY, EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION AND QUALITY BENEFITS.

UM, NOT ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY.

UH, CHESTERFIELD ACTUALLY DID THE PRESENTATION AND THEY OFFERED THE THOUGHT THAT THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS THAT, UH, EMPLOYEES MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE THAT THE COUNTY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PAY FOR, SUCH AS PET INSURANCE WAS ONE EXAMPLE THAT HE USED.

UH, I I'M SURE MR. HORO COULD UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING A COUPLE DOGS, THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE PET INSURANCE, BUT THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS DON'T SUBSIDIZE ANY OF THAT.

THAT WOULD BE, I PREFER THE DOGS STAY HEALTHY.

EXACTLY.

THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO IT, IT WAS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD, UH, BENEFITS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY, UH, PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY TO HELP ATTRACT EMPLOYEES.

AND LIKE I SAID, CHESTERFIELD IS ACTUALLY DOING SOME OF THIS.

UH, ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, ITEMS THAT I GOT TO DO DO WHILE I WAS THERE WAS ATTEND THE, UH, VIRGINIA LOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGERS, MANAGERS ASSOCIATION LUNCHEON, AND, UH, THE TOWN MAN, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RATHER, FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, WHICH IS OUT IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE THAT SERVES VIRGINIA TECH, CHRISTIANBURG, CHRISTIANSBURG, THAT AREA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REALIZE IT, BUT IT WAS IMPACTED BY HURRICANE HELENE A FEW WEEKS AGO.

UH, WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED WAS, UH, THEY'RE THE WATER PROVIDER FOR MOST OF THAT REGION.

WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED WAS A SURGE IN THE RIVER WHERE THEY COLLECT THEIR WATER, LEFT ALL KINDS OF SEDIMENT IN THE WATER, AND AS IT WENT THROUGH THE SYSTEM, IT CLOGGED THE SYSTEM.

SO THEY ESSENTIALLY LOST THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE WATER.

THEY HAD A BOIL NOTICE, UH, THAT STAYED IN EFFECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SO THEY HAD TO GET HELP FROM

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UH, SO THAT WAS, UH, TIME WELL SPENT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UH, UH, MR. FULLER AND I ATTENDED WAS, UH, A SESSION ON SPORTS TOURISM.

UH, SINCE WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AUTHORITY, UH, WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING PLACE TO BE.

SO THAT PRESENTATION WAS PUT ON BY HENRICO CHESTERFIELD AND PULASKI COUNTY.

UH, HENRICO AND CHESTERFIELD ARE BOTH OPERATING SIGNIFICANT, UH, OPERATIONS IN THE SPORTS TOURISM, UH, ARENA.

AND THEY'RE BOTH HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND CONTINUE TO BE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, PULASKI IS A NEW PLAYER IN, IN THIS ARENA, SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT A STARTUP.

THEY'RE A LITTLE FARTHER ALONG THAN WE ARE, BUT IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT A STARTUP.

AND, UH, SO IT HELPS, UH, AT LEAST FOR ME, BRIAN'S BEEN IN THE RECREATION FIELD, UH, FOR MOST OF HIS CAREER WITH THE COUNTY.

SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR, UH, WHAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, WHAT SHOULD WE BE WORRIED ABOUT AS WE DELVE INTO THIS AREA.

SO I THINK IT WAS VERY VALUABLE FOR ME AND I HOPE, UH, THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND FOUND THE SAME THING.

AND, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S, UH, ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

UM, THANKS FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.

UM, I GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK ON, ON THE, UM, CONFERENCES HERE FROM FOLKS, SO I'M GLAD Y'ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR MR. BELLAMY? NO.

ONLY THING I WOULD SAY MR. BELLAMY IS, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT NEWPORT NEWS WATERWORKS WOULD HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS HAD WITH THEIR WATER SYSTEM AND WITH THE PROTECTION, NEWPORT NEWS, WATER WORKS COULD ACCOMMODATE A PROBLEM LIKE THAT.

SO RIGHT.

MAY WANNA GET SOME, READ THAT FROM THEM.

SO MOVING ON TO MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD BOARD.

UM, ALRIGHT,

[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]

AND WE'LL START WITH MR. ROY.

WELL, BEFORE I START THAT, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. UH, BACK THERE.

SO, UM, AT MY REQUEST, UM, FOLLOWING, I THINK IT WAS HOME-BASED BUSINESS DISCUSSION, I HAD ASKED FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER A REGISTRATION PROCESS FOR DAYCARE.

AND, UH, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME, UH, BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DOE THAT, UH, THAT WAS POSSIBLE AND THAT WE COULD CREATE A SET OF REGULATIONS THAT EACH NEW DAYCARE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY TO BE ESTABLISHED.

UH, MR. HILL SPENT TIME WITH THE, UH, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, UH, FOR DOE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, UH, UH, THE, THE TYPE OF COUNTY THAT WE ARE, UH, DOES NOT ALLOW THAT.

IF YOU WOULD REITERATE OR, OR COMMENT ON THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

, UM, WE, WE, BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION WITH DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, UH, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE DID REACH OUT TO US AND CONFIRMED, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHO CLEARLY HAS THEIR OWN ABILITY TO RENDER THEIR OWN OPINIONS, BUT, UH, BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, MY OFFICE'S CONCLUSION THAT STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE A INDEPENDENT, UH, REGULATORY POWER OVER DAYCARES.

UM, THAT'S WHERE THE STATE HAS ALLOWED US TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE STATE.

SO, GIVEN THAT, AND, AND MR. SHEPHERD HAS BEEN, UH, VERY GOOD AT POINTING OUT THE NEED FOR DAYCARES IN THIS REGION, PARTICULARLY WITH MILITARY.

AND I, I HAPPEN TO SIT THROUGH A, A SESSION LAST WEEK WITH THE, UH, JOINT COMMANDER FOR LANGLEY EUSTIS, AND HE MADE THE SAME PLEA.

UM, SO IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO JUST MR. SHEPHERD MAKING THAT COMMENT.

I THINK, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO UNDERSTAND THAT DAYCARES OF FOUR OR LESS CHILDREN ESSENTIALLY HAVE VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF COMPLIANCE OR REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET.

AND THAT JUST RAISES A QUESTION OF ARE WE DOING DUE DUE DILIGENCE AS WE OPEN UP THOSE NEW DAYCARES? AND I THINK THE PARENTS IN PARTICULAR NEED TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE QUALITY OF THE DAYCARE AND, AND PERHAPS PERHAPS EVEN OUR, UM, OUR MILITARY COULD BE, UH, LOOKING AT THOSE SAME QUESTIONS AS THEY PROVIDE THOSE, UH, DAYCARE OPTIONS TO THEIR, UH, ENLISTED FOLKS.

THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAD ALL ALONG WAS ARE WE, DO WE HAVE A SUFFICIENT CHECKLIST IN PLACE TO ALLOW QUALITY DAYCARES TO BE ESTABLISHED? AND SINCE WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK THE QUESTIONS OR PUT A REGISTRATION IN PLACE, WE REALLY NEED TO ENSURE THAT PARENTS ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

UH, IT IN SOME CASES, UM, CHESAPEAKE BAY, UM, THE CHESAPEAKE BAY BOARD, UM, AND, UM, THE WETLANDS BOARD, NOT WETLANDS, WHAT IS IT? YEAH, THE WETLANDS BOARD.

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OF COURSE WHAT WE PAY FOR SCHOOL AND EDUCATION WERE THE TWO HUGE, UH, POTS OF MONEY THAT, UH, THAT ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

TECHNICALLY, A COUNTY'S OUR EXTENSION STATE ANYWAY, BUT THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC ACTIONS, SO, AND DID YOU LOOK AT ANY POSSIBILITY OF US HAVING, UH, EXTENSION AUTHORITY FROM THE STATE? UH, I, I HAVE AND WE DO NOT.

THE, THE STATE IS A DILL RULE STATE, AND IN THE CASES THAT YOU CITED, THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND THE WETLANDS, THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY DELEGATED POWERS AND AUTHORITIES TO COUNTIES TO RUN SOME ASPECTS OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND TO MANAGE 'EM THROUGH THE STATE CODE.

AND NO SUCH POWER HAS BEEN DELEGATED TO US FOR THE PURPOSE OF REGULATING DAYCARES.

SO, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO PUSH TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ALLOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, IT'S KIND OF SCREWY, BUT THE STATE OF VIRGINIA CAN'T ALLOW A COUNTY TO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

THEY CAN'T ALLOW, I MEAN, THEY, THEY DO ALL KIND OF WEIRD STUFF WITH THE LAWS.

SO I MEAN, IF WE, IF IF WE'RE THAT CONCERNED, THEN WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT AUTHORITY EXTENSION TO YOUR COUNTY, IF NOT TO THE STATE.

TO, TO YOUR POINT, MR. SHEPHERD, THE, THE STATE DOES ALLOW, UM, CITIES THAT POWER AND THEY DO ALLOW, UM, URBAN COUNTIES AND COUNTIES THAT HAVE THE, UM, CHARTER, I WANT TO SAY COUNTY MANAGER FORM, BUT SOMETHING WE NO, WE DO NOT HAVE, NO, WE, NO, WE ARE A TRADITION.

THE YORK COUNTY IS A TRADITIONAL COUNTY.

UM, SO THE, THEY HAVE DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY TO CERTAIN ENTITIES, BUT THEY HAVE EXCLUDED COUNTIES.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY'VE ALLOWED IT TO SOME BUT NOT OTHERS, IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THAT POWER.

THEN I GO BACK TO MY POINT IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ASKING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO GIVE US THAT AUTHORITY.

UM, AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, MANY IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND IT WAS POINTED OUT, BUT CHAD, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF HOW MANY, THEY SAY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE, THEY DON'T HAVE CLUE WHAT A COUNTY SUPERVISOR IS.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.

I MEAN, THE CITIES, A LOT OF DELEGATES WILL GO UP THERE AND THEY'LL TALK ABOUT CITIES AND THEY'LL MAKE LAWS ABOUT THE CITIES AND THEY WILL HAVE NO CLUE HOW A COUNTY IT OPERATES.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S EMBARRASSING TO SEE IT.

IN FACT, I, I WAS ABLE TO GET ONE LAW CHANGED BECAUSE OF THAT IGNORANCE AND THEY GOT IT FIXED.

AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, NOW WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHAT WE DO ON THE, UH, IN TRANSPORTATION.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US, UH, GOING, I THINK GOING UP IN NATIONAL, WE CAN SAY, HEY LOOK, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THAT IF NOTHING ELSE IN YOUR COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE.

UM, DAYCARE, IT'S COUNTY MAN, COUNTY MANAGER, URBAN COUNTY EXECUTIVE FORM, WHICH I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE OF, I THINK IT'S HENRICO AND CITIES.

LEMME JUST CHANGE THE LAW.

SO THAT'S DOESN'T HURT TO ASK.

I DO.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT ON.

AND I GUESS THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY THE TYPE OF COUNTY WE ARE.

WHAT DOESN'T APPLY.

SO, ADMINISTRATOR, SO I, I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS IN TERMS OF PRESENTATION OF THE BOARD.

UM, I TOO ATTENDED THE VEHICLE CONFERENCE.

THIS IS A, UH, VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, UH, WHERE ALL BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AND COUNT AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION CAN MEET ONCE A YEAR AND ATTEND, UH, A NUMBER OF CONFERENCES THAT ARE RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS.

UM, WHAT I, WHAT I FOUND MOST INTRIGUING WAS I SAT DOWN AT BREAKFAST THE ONE DAY AND THERE WERE SIX, UH, FIRST YEAR SUPERVISORS SITTING AT THE TABLE AND WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING THE ISSUES WE FACE AND HOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GO THROUGH THIS DRAMATIC LEARNING CURVE AND HOW DO YOU COME UP TO SPEED AND HOW DO YOU GET ISSUES WORKED? AND IT WAS VERY, VERY ENLIGHTENING.

VERY, UM, INSPIRING CONVERSATION BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.

I ATTENDED A SESSION ON THE DOMINION ENERGY PUT ON, ON, ON ENERGY AND THEIR ATTEMPTS TO BE COMPLETELY GREEN BY 2050.

I WISH THEM WELL.

, I DOUBT WHETHER THAT WILL TAKE PLACE, PARTICULARLY AS I SEE, UH, SOME OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, UH, UH, THREATS ON, UH, WIND, WIND FARMS. UM, BUT I THINK THE, THE, THE CLOSEOUT SESSION WAS THE ONE I GOT THE MOST VALUE OUT OF.

AND THAT WAS, UH, TWO FORMER DELEGATES, UH, CHRIS SACKMAN SACKMAN AND DAVID TUSCANO.

AND, AND THEY BOTH TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE NOVEMBER 5TH ELECTION AND WHAT WE ARE LIKELY TO SEE, PARTICULARLY IF THE CURRENT OR THE INCOMING PARTY GOES AFTER A $2 TRILLION TAX CUT AND WHERE IS THAT TAX CUT GOING TO ROLL DOWNHILL TO.

UH, AND, AND THEY'RE VERY FEARFUL THAT THE STATES WILL SEE A LOSS OF FUNDING IN MANY AREAS AND THAT THAT ULTIMATELY WILL IMPACT THE COUNTIES.

AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A PRETTY EYE-OPENING DISCUSSION.

UM, MEDICAID AND, AND, AND

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IF WE LOSE STATE FUNDING, UM, THAT'S A CONCERN.

UM, WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THAT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A RAINY DAY FUND.

I HAD ONE LAST ONE, WHICH WAS, UM, CODE OF ETHICS.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A CODE OF CONDUCT, UH, AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.

I THINK SINCE THEN, A NUMBER OF OUR SUPERVISORS HAVE SHARED NOTES BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF SHOULD WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT A CODE OF CODE OF ETHICS.

UH, I HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY TO DRAFT A CODE OF ETHICS AND SEVERAL OF THE SUPERVISORS ARE INDEPENDENTLY, UH, REVIEWING THAT.

AND I HOPE TO HEAR BACK.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MRS. NOLAN.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE, AND I'M GONNA MAKE A, A, A FEW THAT ARE DIFFERENT.

WHAT I REALLY WANNA DO IS THANK ALL THE VOTERS WHO VOTED, AND I WANNA THANK ALL THE ELECTION OFFICIALS THAT WORKED AT THE POLLS.

YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE WORKING AT THE POLLS, WE'D BE IN DEEP TROUBLE.

BUT THEY WORKED THE POLLS NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY ON ELECTION DAY, BUT MANY OF THEM ALSO WORKED AT THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE FOR EARLY VOTING.

AND THAT TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THEIR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY PEOPLE COULD VOTE, THAT COULD.

I REALLY WANNA THANK THE REGISTRAR AND HIS STAFF AND THE ELECTORAL BOARD FOR, AGAIN, ENSURING THAT WE HAD A CLEAN ELECTION.

YOU HEAR SO MANY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, OH, THIS WENT WRONG, OR THIS COULD GO WRONG, OR, I DON'T KNOW IF I TRUST OR NOT.

I THINK WE, CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY, CAN TRUST EVERY SINGLE THING THAT IS DONE BY OUR ELECTORAL BOARD.

WE HAVE A CLEAN ELECTION.

I REMEMBER ONE TIME, EVEN WHEN WE HAD A RECOUNT, THE RECOUNT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO THEY, THEY PUT IN AN AWFUL LOT OF EFFORT TO IT FOR VERY LITTLE MONEY.

I ALWAYS REFER TO THEM AS VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE OF THE TIME EFFORT.

YOU REALIZE THAT SOME OF THEM GET UP AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ON A LECTURE DAY AND DON'T GET TO BED UNTIL MAYBE 10 OR 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AFTER A VERY, VERY LONG DAY.

UH, NOW THAT I'VE DONE THAT, THE ELECTIONS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN PUT THAT BEHIND US AND CONTINUE OUR LIVES.

AND I HOPE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING.

AND WE, BUT DO REMEMBER, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE IN YOUR THOUGHTS, ALL THAT ARE UNABLE TO SHARE THIS DAY WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.

UH, THAT'S WITH OUR MILITARY ESPECIALLY.

UH, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TRAVEL AND FOR THEIR JOBS, AND THANKSGIVING IS A DAY THAT WE ALL NEED TO REFLECT ON HOW ACTUALLY LUCKY WE ARE THAT WE LIVE IN UNITED STATES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. DREWRY.

UM, SO, AND I'M, WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE, A BROKEN RECORD, BUT, UH, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH ENOUGH TO, UH, ATTEND THE VACO CONFERENCE AS WELL, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, FIRST TIME.

AND, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, WELL DONE.

UH, THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE LOTS OF HARD WORK.

AND, UM, AND THEY, THEY PUT ON A GREAT SHOW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

IT'S A GREAT CONFERENCE.

AND THEY HAD BREAKOUT SESSIONS AS, AS DOUG AND MARK AND THEM HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

UH, SO WE ALL, WE KIND OF TRIED TO BREAK UP, NOT GO ALL TO THE SAME SESSIONS SO WE COULD COME BACK AND KIND OF COMPARE NOTES.

AND, UH, I DID ALSO GO TO THE BUDGET ONE, WHICH I, IT WAS GOOD TO LEARN SOME MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET HERE IN VIRGINIA, UM, TO KNOW WE DO HAVE A SURPLUS, BUT THEY'RE SOMEWHAT PROTECTING THAT.

AND, UH, ALSO WENT TO ONE ON, UH, WORKFORCE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A COMMON THEME ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST YORK COUNTY, NOT JUST THE NINE, SOME COUNTIES IN THE, IN THE VIRGINIA STATE OF VIRGINIA.

SO IT, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD IS FINDING GOOD WORKERS TO COME AND STAY.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE JUST GOTTA LOOK AT EVERY OP OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE YORK COUNTY A GREAT PLACE TO COME TO WORK AND, AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE AND DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR 'EM.

SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING BACK AGAIN.

UH, VERY WELL TIME SPENT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

UH, LIKE DOUG SAID, MET A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE, UH, ACROSS THE STATE THAT DO WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO BOUNCE

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IDEAS OFF OF EACH OTHER.

AND SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE SOME FRIENDSHIPS, UM, ALONG THE WAY.

UH, MAYBE SOME LASTING FRIENDSHIPS.

AND, UH, I ACTUALLY, UH, GOT TO VISIT WITH, UH, KEN BOWMAN, UH, KEN AND BRENDA BOWMAN, SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

I'M SITTING IN KEN'S SEAT.

HE WAS HERE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR IN DISTRICT THREE.

THEY'VE BEEN GREAT FRIENDS OF OURS.

THEY GOT MARRIED A YEAR OFF OF US, AND SO WE'VE LIVED LIFE TOGETHER AND THEY'VE MOVED OUT AND MOVED BACK AND MOVED OUT.

AND, UH, HE'S NOW A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT PITTS PITTS COUNTY.

IT'S RIGHT OUT OF DANVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA.

SO, UH, HE JUST WON THE SEAT THERE.

UH, HE WAS A, UM, HE WAS AT ELIZABETH CITY, I THINK HE WAS THE MANAGER THERE AT ELIZABETH CITY, AND HE SERVED ON THE EDA BOARDS.

AND SO WE, WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION AND CATCHING UP AND, UH, SO IT WAS A LOT OF FUN FOR THAT.

UM, THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT I'VE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT, IS THE DUMP.

UH, SO THE DUMP HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.

THE TRANSFER, UH, PART OF THE DUMPS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.

UH, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM RECENTLY THAT THERE'S MORE STRUCTURAL MM-HMM.

ISSUES THAN WHAT THEY EXPECTED.

SO IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LONGER TIME LIMIT OF THEM BEING DOWN.

UM, AND I, I EXPERIENCED THIS FIRSTHAND LAST WEEKEND, THE WEEKEND BEFORE, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY CLOSED AT 12 O'CLOCK .

UM, I DRIVE UP AND, UH, FORTUNATELY I SAW THE SIGN AND I TURNED AROUND 'CAUSE I SAID, WELL, I GOTTA GO TO THE DUMP.

I GOT SOME STUFF TO TAKE.

AND I WENT BACK AND ASKED THE LADY, UH, WHAT WAS GOING ON AS FAR AS WHAT I COULD DUMP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, AND I WAS SOMEWHAT CONFUSED EVEN AFTER I LEFT THERE BECAUSE MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE SAID.

UM, SO ANYWAY, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE HANDLE THAT.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT, THEY'RE NOT GETTING INFORMED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE ALL SIT UP HERE AND GO, LOOK, GET YOUR, YOU KNOW, GET, GET ON THE EMAIL LIST, GET ON OUR TEXT, GET ON THE FLASH VOTE, WHATEVER WE'VE GOTTA DO TO GET PEOPLE INFORMED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT, I'M NOT, I'M SITTING ON THE BOARD AND I GO TO THE DUMP AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT.

I SHOULD HAVE PRO PROBABLY 'CAUSE I PROBABLY MISSED AN EMAIL OR TWO OR SOMETHING.

BUT, UM, SOMEHOW WE JUST GOTTA DO A BETTER JOB OF, OF GETTING THE, THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

THE INFORMATION ON STUFF LIKE THIS IS VERY CRITICAL.

WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE DUMP AND THEY THINK THEY CAN DUMP A WHOLE TRUCKLOAD OF STUFF THAT THEY'VE LOADED UP OR A TRAILER, AND THEY GET TURNED AROUND AND THEY GO, OH, NOW WHAT DO I DO? I'VE GOT A TRAILER FULL OR A TRUCKLOAD OF TRASH THAT I CAN'T TAKE UNTIL, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING.

SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN KICK AROUND, TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO A BETTER JOB OF INFORMING, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

AND SO I, I'M INTERESTED IF ANYONE HAS ANY GOOD IDEAS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY.

UH, GET WITH THE COUNTY STAFF AND LET'S TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF, OF GETTING OUR PUBLIC AT LARGE INFORMED.

AND I, I THINK WE DO A GOOD JOB, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE.

UH, AND THE LAST THING IS, UH, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THANKSGIVING, AND I CERTAINLY WANNA WISH YOU ALL A, A VERY HAPPY, JOYOUS THANKSGIVING, UH, WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

AND, UH, LIFE IS SHORT.

AND I JUST TOLD SOME GUYS EARLIER, WE LOST TWO UNCLES THIS WEEK.

MY WIFE AND I LOST, SHE LOST ONE, AND I LOST ONE ON THE SAME DAY, ACTUALLY.

SO I WENT TO ONE OF MY UNCLE'S FUNERAL TODAY WAS 96.

LIVED A GREAT LIFE.

AND, UH, HER UNCLE, UM, WILL BE ON FRIDAY AND HE'S 84 OR FIVE.

SO ALWAYS, I MEAN, LIVED A GOOD LIFE, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIFE IS PRECIOUS.

SO SPEND IT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ENJOY YOUR TIME, UH, AROUND THANKSGIVING.

AND WE HAVE MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR.

THANK YOU, MR. JURY, MR. SHEPHERD.

OH YEAH, THE LIGHT'S ON.

GOOD.

HEY, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT IT IS A GOOD POINT.

UH, YOU ASK ABOUT INFORMATION AND, UM, I THINK A LOT OF US, WE, WE, UH, OVERLOOK THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT'S THERE.

IT'S IN FRONT OF US, BUT WE JUST KIND OF TAKE FOR GRANTED SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THE SERVICES ARE GONNA BE THERE, AND THEN WHEN THEY DON'T, ARE NOT THERE, THEN OH, OH MY GOSH, WE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

UM, THE, UH, TO ME, WE GO INTO THAT, UH, I, I DON'T LOOK AT THE WEBPAGE TO GO DOWN TO THE DUMP, RIGHT? OKAY.

I GO DOWN AND GET MULCH AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S OPEN AND IT'S WORKING.

BUT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I I EVEN IF THEY PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, WE SEND OUT THE, UH, THE STATEMENT OF THE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.

UH, A LOT OF IT'S ONLINE.

AND IF YOU DON'T GO ONLINE, LOOK AT IT, YOU'RE GONNA MISS IT.

YOU GO DOWN THERE WITH A TRUCKLOAD OF STUFF AND YOU CAN'T, THEN YOU GO, WHAT? GOSH.

, I MEAN, AND IN FACT, WE JUST LISTED ALL THE, THE CLOSURES FOR THE COUNTY DURING THE THANKSGIVING, UH, WEEKEND.

AND, UM, SO THEY'RE THERE.

IT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, AND THE HARD WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT IS

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THEN YOU GO, THE NEXT THING I DO IS GO FIND OUT HOW LONG IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED, IF YOU CAN FIND IT.

OR FIND OUT.

I THINK WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

WE CAN DROP OFF CERTAIN THINGS.

I KNOW, UH, CY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHEMICAL DROP OFFS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ARE HAPPENING, UH, PERIODICALLY.

SO THEY'RE AROUND.

THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THEY CAN DO THAT.

BUT YEAH, IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING, UH, WHEN YOU DO THAT.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I I, OVER THE YEARS I'VE TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT EDUCATION SYSTEM IN YORK COUNTY.

UM, IF YOU, MOST MILITARY PEOPLE, UH, AS A WAY OF LIFE GO TO ALL KIND OF LOCATIONS WITH MILITARY, WITH EDUCATIONAL SERVICES.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT BAR NONE.

YOUR COUNTY IS ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT I'VE EVER SEEN FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTY TO THE NEXT.

AND I'VE BEEN IN EUROPE.

UH, MY KIDS WENT INTO D DODGE SCHOOLS IN, UH, UM, IN, UH, DO D SCHOOLS IN, IN, UH, KOREA.

UM, THEY WENT TO THE ENGLISH SCHOOLS IN, IN, UH, IN, IN, IN EUROPE, I MEAN, IN ENGLAND.

UH, I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

I WENT TO THIS, I WENT TO SCHOOLS ALL OVER COUNTRY, THIS MILITARY.

AND I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOTHING MORE THAN DAYCARE.

BASICALLY, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LOUISIANA WAS FAMOUS FOR ITS, UH, NEP SCHOOL SYSTEM.

YOU, YOU, THROUGH WHEN I STARTED, I WENT THERE IN THE THIRD GRADE.

ENDED UP IN THE FIFTH GRADE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T, BECAUSE I WAS SO ADVANCED FROM THE REST OF THE PROGRAM, THEY PUT ME FORWARD.

AND THEN WHEN I LEFT THERE, WENT TO, UH, A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN, UH, MILITARY SCHOOL SYSTEM IN, UH, CHERRY POINT.

THEY PUT ME BACK BECAUSE I WENT UP WITH THEIRS.

AND THEN ON THAT SAME YEAR, I WENT TO A SCHOOL IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, AND THEY PUT ME IN ANOTHER, ANOTHER GRADE.

I MEAN, IT WAS CRAZY.

UH, WE ARE, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE HERE TO HAVE THE FOCUS, THE DEDICATION, UM, FOR OUR CHILDREN.

AND IT HAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON OUR, OUR SOCIETY.

IN YOUR COUNTY.

UM, A LOT OF SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE, THEY LIVE OFF, BASICALLY HAND TO MOUTH.

THEY DON'T, THEY, THE KIDS WILL GO TO SCHOOLS.

THEY MAY HAVE BOOKS, THEY MAY HAVE COMPUTERS.

UH, THEY MAY HAVE THE TEACHERS THAT ARE, THAT, THAT, THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO BE TEACHERS.

UM, THEY HAVE SUBSTITUTES.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE IS SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS.

AND, UM, AND, UH, OUR PROGRAM IS SO FAR ABOVE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S INCREDIBLE.

NOW, YOU CAN GO TO SMALLER CITIES, UH, SMALL CITY, UH, AND FIND A REALLY GREAT EDUCATION SYSTEM, BUT IT'S VERY SMALL.

BUT WHEN YOU GET ONE THAT'S SPREAD OUT ALL ACROSS THE AREA, I THINK ONE OF THE WORST ONES I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY MILITARY EXPERIENCE WAS NEW MEXICO.

UM, WHICH HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST CRIME RATES IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, AND SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS, WAS REALLY BAD.

I'LL JUST TELL YOU.

IT WAS BAD.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY BAD WAS HAWAII.

I MEAN, YOU WOULD THINK MM-HMM, , WOW.

GOSH, THESE SCHOOL SYSTEMS WOULD BE GREAT.

NO, THEY WERE TERRIBLE.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE DYSFUNCTIONAL.

YOUR COUNTY'S GREAT.

OCCASIONALLY WE GET AWARDED VARIOUS THINGS.

NOW WE, WE, WE, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT, UH, RECENTLY WE HAD, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS THE TWO? THERE WAS SEAFORD AND TAB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, TAB SEAFORD, AND TAB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

UM, THEY WERE RECIPIENTS OF THE HIGHEST ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS FROM THE STATE HIGHEST ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN HONOR THAT YOU'D SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE GET SO MANY AWARDS.

SO WHAT? WELL, THAT'S THAT YOU DON'T GET THESE IN THIS STATE BECAUSE STATE OF VIRGINIA IS BASICALLY A PRETTY GREAT SCHOOL, SCHOOL SYSTEM STATE.

THE, UM, BETHEL MANOR.

NOW, THIS WAS ONE WE'VE BEEN VERY PROUD OF.

BETHEL MANOR RECEIVED THE BLUE RIBBON STATE BLUE RIBBON AWARD.

JUST A NICE STATEMENT ABOUT WHERE OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS.

, UM, THAT AWARD, WHAT DID THEY SAY? THERE'S 57,000 SCHOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THERE'S ONLY ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 300 BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS, UH, AWARD.

NOW, THEY GIVE IT, THEY GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR AND THEY BE THESE CHOICES.

AND TWO OF OUR SCHOOLS, UH, UH, TAB ELEMENTARY AND GRAFTON BETHEL, UH, RECEIVED THE AWARD IN PAST YEARS.

SO OUR, AGAIN, ANOTHER TICK THAT SAYS, HEY, LOOK, WE WE'RE DOING GOOD.

AND THEN, UM, WE GET THINGS LIKE NICHE MAGAZINE, YOU'LL HEAR THIS, I REMEMBER WALT REBEL, AND HE WAS ON THE BOARD, CAME UP TALKING ABOUT NICHE MAGAZINE.

I'D NEVER HEARD OF NICHE MAGAZINE, BUT IF YOU WERE, IF YOU'RE A PARENT'S GOTTA PUT YOUR KIDS IN SCHOOL AND YOU'RE TRAVELING, YOU GO TO THAT MAGAZINE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR SCHOOLS ARE.

AND YOUR COUNTY, SURPRISINGLY, I GUESS IT SHOULD BE SURPRISINGLY, WAS RA RATED NUMBER ONE SCHOOL, THE BEST SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ALL HAMPTON ROADS.

THE BEST SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ALL HAMPTON ROADS IS RA WAS RATED TH THIRD IN THE WHOLE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

AND THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S

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AND WE SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.

UH, WE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF EDUCATION IN THE STATE, OR AT LEAST IN OUR AREA, OUR COST FOR EDUCATION IS ALMOST ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE AREA.

AND YET WE HAVE THE HIGHEST, THE HIGHEST GRADUATION RATES.

UH, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST, UH, RATE FOR, UH, PEOPLE GOING ON TO COLLEGE AND ALL THE, ALL THE METRICS YOU HAVE.

SO MY HAT'S OFF TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IT'S OFF TO THE, TO, UH, TO THE, THE, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE PARENTS, THE TEACHERS, THE ADMINISTRATORS, AND ESPECIALLY THE KIDS THAT MAKE THIS THING WORK FOR US.

BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE GREAT, UH, WE HAVE A VERY LOW, UH, CRIME RATE.

AND WE HAVE GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE.

IT'S ALL REFLECTED IN THAT AND HOW WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

IT'S THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT IT.

SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WAS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD.

GOOD.

WE ADD BRUTEN TO THAT LIST OF SCHOOLS AS WELL.

I SAW REC, UH, AWARDS BEING HANDED OUT, UH, BY DR.

SHAND, PAT RU AS WELL.

RIGHT.

ALSO, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED TAB HIGH SCHOOL TOO.

THAT WAS IN THERE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

A COUPLE, A COUPLE THINGS TO SHARE.

UM, ONE OF OUR HISTORIANS, BONNIE CARMACK, REACHED OUT TO ME WITH A MESSAGE, WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT A, UH, AN IMPORTANT PRESENTATION THAT IS COMING UP, UH, THIS COMING SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 23RD FROM 11 TO 12:30 PM RIGHT HERE IN THIS, IN THIS ROOM HERE IN YOUR CALL.

IT IS THE EDUCATION ENVIRONMENT ECONOMICS, UM, PRESERVATION, UH, FORM.

UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE.

IT'S A, IT'S A JOINT SESSION WITH THE WILLIAMSBURG BATTLEFIELD ASSOCIATION AT YORK, YORK COUNTY HISTORICAL MUSEUM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS AND PRESERVATION AND PRESERVING THE, UM, THE YORKTOWN BATTLEFIELD.

SO, WHICH IS, IT'S MAD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME CHECK THAT OUT.

IT'S A FREE EVENT AND IT ALSO COMES WITH A 10% DISCOUNT, UH, FOR GALLERY PURCHASES DOWNSTAIRS, IF YOU WANNA CHECK THAT OUT.

BEFORE OR AFTER.

WELL, I GUESS AFTER THE, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION, UH, ALSO, UH, MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. BELLAMY, I RECEIVED SOME, UM, POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE STEPS AT END OF CHURCH STREET DOWN AT WATER STREET.

UM, GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON IT, LOOKS GOOD, LIKED LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE RAILING, UH, ABOUT COULDN'T GET A GRIP DUE TO THE SIZE OF RAILING.

SO I TAKE THAT TO MEAN IT'S MAYBE A BIT TOO BIG.

UH, I HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE MYSELF.

I WAS DOWN THERE WHEN IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SINCE IT'S BEEN FINISHED.

I WANNA MAY MAYBE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S AN ADJUSTMENT WE CAN MAKE OR SOMETHING.

UM, ANYWAY, I WANTED TO PASS THAT ON TO YOU.

AND ALSO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY AND THE, UH, UM, THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE RECEIVED A, UH, FAIRLY SIZABLE, UH, GRANT AWARD HERE, HERE RECENTLY.

UM, AND HAVE WE RECEIVED THEM FROM THE, UM, STATE COMMITTEE ON, IT WAS, IT WAS FROM, FROM THE STATE.

I FORGET THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE THAT, THAT AWARDED IT FOR, UM, UH, RECYCLING AND, UM, AND ROADSIDE CLEANUP.

UM, HAVE WE RECEIVED ONE OF THOSE BEFORE? I DON'T RECALL.

SEEN ONE OF THOSE GRANTS BEFORE.

I WILL DEFER TO MR. KRIEGER ON THAT.

IT SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE FOUR.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

EXACTLY NOT, BUT I CAN, NO, I JUST, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE IT AND, UM, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AND HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THAT.

BUT, UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE WE GET, UH, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T COME RIGHT DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

SO, SO I CAN'T SHARE WITH YOU.

I, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. MIGHT GET THE CREDIT FOR THIS.

I, I THINK IT WAS YOUR IDEA ABOUT PUTTING SOME KIND OF DECAL ON THE RECYCLING CAN SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T.

AND, AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE GONNA WORK ON LITTLE EDUCATION SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CAN PUT IN A CAN AND WHAT THEY CAN'T PUT IN A CAN.

HAVE THINGS ON IT.

GET THAT IN MY MAIL.

WELL, WE HAVE 'EM, SOME OF THEM THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THINGS TELL YOU WHAT YOU PUT ON THERE, .

SO IT'S AN OLD ONE.

I, WE HAVE ONE AND I THINK MY PARENTS HAVE IT.

AND SO, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

AND, AND I'LL WRAP IT UP TOO, BUT JUST SAYING, HEY, UM, HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING.

ENJOY YOUR TIME WITH, WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, UM, AND GET, GET, GET A LITTLE BIT OF DOWNTIME.

I, ONE MORE SECOND.

ALRIGHT, MR. YEAH, REAL QUICK.

UH, ED LOWES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I MEANT TO WRITE THAT DOWN FOR YOUR TIME TO COME TONIGHT.

UM, MOST OF THE TIME WE HEAR ALL THE BAD STUFF, RIGHT? UH, SOMEBODY'S ALWAYS BANGING ON US IN EMAIL OR TEXT OR CALLING OR WHATEVER.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S SUPER NICE THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT, UH, AND, AND TELL THE BOARD THAT YOU APPRECIATE WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO.

AND I, UH, I'M PROUD TO BE A PART OF WHAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE AND, UH, UH, WE STAND BEHIND YOU GUYS AND I HOPE THIS IS A MESSAGE

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TO ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO, IS TO LOOK OUT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SAFETY AND THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

AND I APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ARE TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND LET'S GET IT DONE TOGETHER.

OKAY? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY A GREAT SUCCESS STORY.

GOOD, GOOD COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, THE BOARD STAFF, VDOT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER AND GET THAT DONE SO QUICKLY.

SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE SUCCESS STORIES LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A RATHER

[PUBLIC HEARINGS ]

UNIQUE EVENING IN THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE DON'T

[CLOSED MEETING ]

HAVE ANY CLOSED, UM, SESSION.

SESSION AND WE

[NEW BUSINESS]

DON'T HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS.

ALL WE HAVE LEFT RIGHT

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

NOW IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO WE'RE GONNA PUSH THROUGH, WE'RE GONNA WRAP THIS UP.

WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS TONIGHT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES, ITEMS FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN, OUR PURCHASE RESOLUTIONS ITEMS. ITEM EIGHT IS REMOVAL OF DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTION.

ITEM NINE, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, THE PUMP STATION, UM, OFF ALBACORE.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FOR THIRD FOR THIS QUARTER.

AND UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A ZONING AND ORDINANCE, UM, AMENDMENT POSSIBILITY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE BOARD LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? I'D, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER EIGHT PLEASE.

NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER EIGHT.

IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR E SPECIFICALLY.

AND, UM, 11, I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MR. ROY.

SO ON, ON FOUR E.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE JOINT SESSION OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO CAPTURE THE MINUTES, UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS A SIMILAR SITUATION TO OUR, UH, WORKSHOP BACK IN JANUARY WHERE IT'S RECORDED.

BUT, UH, AS, AS OUR STAFF WILL POINT OUT, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS TALKING .

AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T HEAR CORRECTLY BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF THE MICROPHONE.

AND I THINK THE MESSAGE HERE IS WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THESE LARGER SESSIONS TO GET A BETTER, UM, MORE CONSISTENT, UH, UH, SET OF MINUTES CAPTURED.

UM, SO NO SPECIFIC ISSUE.

UH, I, I'VE ISSUED MY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES THEY'VE BEEN CAPTURED.

I I JUST THINK THERE'S A MESSAGE HERE THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.

SO, AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY WELL ADAPT AT MEETING LIKE THIS, BUT NOT, NOT SO MUCH BIGGER MEANS.

SO LESSONS LEARNED AND, AND APPLY THEM GOING FORWARD, CORRECT? YEP.

THAT WAS MY COMMENT FOR YOU.

ADD CAN I ADD TO YOUR COMMENT THOUGH? I, UM, I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MINUTES ARE.

AND THEY, AND THEY GO TO THIS VERBATIM ASPECT OF A MINUTES AND THEY'RE NOT AT ALL.

OKAY? AND, UM, AND SO SOME, AND THESE, AND ESPECIALLY IN BIG MEETINGS, UM, AND CONFERENCES, WELL, YOU DON'T, WHAT YOU DO IS YOU'RE JUST LIKE THE TIME PLACE WHO SPOKE AND WHAT WAS THE SUBJECT AND NOT THE DETAIL OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SET.

I MEAN, IT, IT IF, UM, SOME, I MEAN, I LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND, AND I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO CAPTURE ALL THIS STUFF AND IT'S GREAT WHEN IT'S VIDEOED, BUT, UH, UM, I, I SOMETIMES I THINK THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH STUFF IN THE, IN A MINUTE.

I MEAN, WE CAN ARGUE THAT BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE MINUTES IN, IN TRUTH, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT ROBERT'S RULES, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT A MINUTES, WHAT THE MINUTES ARE.

THERE'S BASICALLY A SUMMATION OF THE MEETING.

, THEY'RE NOT A VERBATIM LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID.

AND I KNOW PEOPLE GET UPSET BY THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

SO THAT WAS MY INPUT REAL QUICK RIGHT THERE.

NOW, ONE THING I NOTICED THAT, THAT THE OCTOBER MEETINGS ARE NOT ON THE, NOT IN THE AGENDA CENTER, UM, UNDER US.

AND I'M, AND I BET IF I WENT OVER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, IT'S NOT THERE EITHER.

IT SHOULD BE CAPTURED SOMEWHERE ONLINE, AT LEAST WHAT WE'VE CAPTURED HERE TOO.

SO I'M NOT SURE BEST PLACE TO PUT IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE.

SO, ALRIGHT, MR. HORROW, YOU HAD NUMBER EIGHT, RIGHT? WELL, NUMBER EIGHT, UH, MR. BUDDY SPENCER IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

I SUGGEST WE HAVE HIM COME FORWARD AND JUST EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT IT IS HE'S TRYING TO DO, UM, AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION ON NUMBER EIGHT.

UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S JUST FOR CLARITY AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS HE'S, UH, REQUESTING.

MR. SPENCER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UH, ON THAT ITEM? PLEASE, SHARON, APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING ON THE AGENDA.

UH, APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT, BUDDY.

THE, THE PARCEL OF LAND IS ON THE CORNER OF, OF GOOD NECK ROAD AND, AND ROUTE 17.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

AND, AND BASICALLY THIS, UH,

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AND IT'S, IT IS A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND.

IT'S A PIECE THAT MY, MY SON AND I OWN.

IT'S PREVIOUSLY, UH, IT WAS INTERESTING.

UH, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.

UH, WHAT HAS HAPPENED ON THAT, ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? IT WAS, UH, AND I, I'VE BEEN DEVELOPING PROPERTY FOR WELL OVER 40 YEARS, AND THIS WAS A VERY QUIRKY AND INTERESTING SITUATION, BUT THERE WAS A RESTRICTION PUT ON THIS PROPERTY BY, UH, THERE WAS TWO COMPETING DRUGSTORE LOCATIONS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY AT ONE TIME.

AND, AND THIS INFORMATION I'VE GOT FROM THE WALGREENS DEVELOPER, JIM CLAYTON, AND HE, HE PROVIDED ME THE INFORMATION OF WHAT TOOK PLACE HERE.

UH, THE, THE COMPETING, UH, DRUGSTORE BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF GOODMAN NECK TO, UH, AND I, I, I THINK IT WAS BASICALLY TO PREVENT WALGREENS FROM HAVING A CORNER LOCATION ON, ON GILBERT NECK.

AND, AND 17, UH, THEY BOUGHT IT AND HE PUT A RESTRICTION ON IT THAT'S GONNA BE USED FOR LANDSCAPING ONLY.

BUT THEN THE END, AND I THINK THE IDEA THERE WAS, AND THIS IS ONLY WHAT, WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME IS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO PREVENT WALGREENS FROM HAVING AN ACTUAL CORNER LOCATION BECAUSE DRUGSTORES WANT CORNER LOCATIONS.

AND SO THEY, THE OTHER COMPETING GROUP ENDED UP BUYING THIS PROPERTY AND PUTTING A LANDSCAPING RESTRICTION ON IT.

UH, AND THEN THEY PUT A PROVISION IN THERE THAT, OKAY, WELL, THE LANDSCAPING, THIS RESTRICTION CAN COME OFF ONLY IF A THEN CURRENT OWNER, UH, AT THE TIME IN YORK COUNTY, UH, HAVE A MEMORANDUM.

A MEMORANDUM PASSED THAT SAYS, UH, UH, TO TAKE THE RESTRICTION OFF.

SO BA BASICALLY THE PURPOSE, I MEAN THE FUNCTION, WHAT THIS DEVELOPER WAS LOOKING FOR, THAT WAS THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY OR THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE OTHER DRUGSTORE, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY BASICALLY, THEY ACHIEVED THEIR OBJECTIVE BY NOT GETTING WALGREENS AND LOCATION ON THE CORNER.

AND THEN ONCE THAT'S OVER, WELL LET'S TAKE THE RESTRICTION OFF.

THAT'S FINE.

SO OUR REQUEST IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, THAT WE AS A CURRENT OWNER NOW IN THE COUNTY, THAT WE JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE A MEMORANDUM TO, TO TAKE, UH, TO TAKE THE RESTRICTION OFF.

IN MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON DISCUSSION, MR. SPENCER, WAS THAT YOU AT THAT POINT WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, CONVEYING THAT PROPERTY TO THE COUNTY? IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT THE INTENTION IS, YES.

WITH THAT AS THE BASIS, I TAKE NO EXCEPTION.

ALRIGHT, MR. SPENCER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU SHARING WITH US.

UM, MR. DREWRY, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT NUMBER 11? YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO GET, I GUESS THIS IS WHAT I LOOKING AT PROBABLY RICHARD HILL HERE.

THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO LOOK AT, UH, ZONING, UM, OUR ZONING, UH, FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE MEGA SHIPS COMING IN.

AND THIS, THE, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, TO GET OUR PLANNING AND ZONING TEAMS TOGETHER AND START LOOKING AT OPTIONS, UH, TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, THAT WILL, UM, PREVENT THE LARGE MEGA SHIPS FROM COMING INTO YORKTOWN OR DOCKING AT OUR FACILITY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN THEY WILL GET OPTIONS FOR US AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND PRESENT THOSE OPTIONS HERE IN, IN SOME TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THIS IS A LEGALLY MANDATED FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS TO INITIATE POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES.

UM, AND ZONING IS LAND USE ISSUES, UM, AND FOCUSED ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE EQUATION.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLARIFIED.

AND I TALKED TO, UM, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT THIS TODAY.

YOU NOTICE IN THE WORDING, UM, OF THE TOP, THE COVER SHEET THAT, UH, IT REFERENCES A SUPERVISOR.

UH, DOUG BROUGHT THIS IN AS, AS NOT DOUG, BUT UM, UH, WAYNE, IT BROUGHT THIS AS HIS, UH, UH, AS AN ACTION FOR US TO TAKE THE, AND ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT DONE THIS WAY.

AND THEN WE GET TO WORK SESSION.

THIS IS NOT HOW, THIS IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

THE BOARD OPERATES AS A UNIT.

WE GO FORWARD AS A UNIT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY MEMBER CAN BRING A, UH, AN IDEA TO THE BOARD AND SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, CAN WE CONSIDER THIS? AND WE OFTEN DO THIS.

AND WHERE WE DO THIS IS IN A WORK SESSION

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EITHER THE CHAIRMAN OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ESPECIALLY GENERALLY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD TURN TO THE BOARD CHAIRMAN AND SAYS, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THIS? AND SO WE TAKE KIND OF A, A STRAW VOTE, WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

AND AT THAT POINT THEN, AND ONLY THEN BECAUSE WE ARE BOARD IS THE IDEA.

IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD WITH IT, WE BRING IT BACK HERE AND NOW WE GET THIS LIKE THIS AND IT'S THEN WE, THE BOARD SPONSORS THIS ACTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD.

IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT THIS ACTION IS, IS A SPONSORSHIP OF A PROPOSED CHANGE AND THIS WHATEVER IS THE ZONING AMENDMENT OKAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

, YEAH.

ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGE, BUT IT'S A PROPOSAL FOR THE CHANGE.

AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GET DOWN THERE, THEY DO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BIT, WHICH IS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT, DIGEST THE INFORMATION, THEN COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT AREA WITH CHANGES.

MM-HMM, .

UM, AND THEN WE VOTE ON THAT.

THE IDEA IS HOPEFULLY THAT WE SEND DOWN THERE ENOUGH INFORMATION SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ACT AND COME BACK WITH A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS MORE, UH, DETAILS IN IT.

AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE WOULD PRESENT IT TO SEND.

BUT IT'S, THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A BOARD ACTION.

IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL ACTION, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT STATED IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT IT IS STATED ON THE COVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT.

WE DON'T DO THAT.

AND HE KNOWS THAT WE DON'T DO THAT.

SO WAS, I DUNNO IF HE WAS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR, OR WHAT, OR WENT CRAZY OR WHAT.

BUT THE, THE POINT IS THESE ARE BOARD ACTIONS.

WE OPERATE THROUGH RESOLUTIONS AND, AND THAT'S MY POINT.

AND THEN SHEILA KNOWS THIS 'CAUSE SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WAY WE DO STUFF.

RIGHT.

BUT WE DID, WE DID HAVE THE DISCUSSION, THE WORK SESSION.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO PURSUE.

WE DID TAKE THAT BOX OFF.

I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ARGUING A POINT, I'M JUST MAKING IT CLEAR.

THE POINT FOR THE POINT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS THAT WE DON'T SINGLE OUT INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISORS FOR THIS ACTION THAT'S DONE.

IF ANYTHING, IT'S DONE BECAUSE THE, THE PERSON THAT'S MAKING THE PROPOSAL OR BRINGS IT TO THE BOARD, BRINGS IT DURING THE WORK SESSION AND THAT'S WHERE WE WORK IT OUT.

BUT THIS, THIS KIND OF IMPLIED THROUGH HIS COVER SHEET THAT IT WAS, UH, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE A SUPERVISOR SAID THEY WANT TO GET IT DONE.

NO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS WORKS.

I THINK THE, I THINK THE POINT ALSO IS YOU NEED THREE SUPERVISORS TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD, NOT JUST ONE SUPERVISOR.

TRUE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THIS BECAUSE WE ALL, WE DID SHOOK OUR HEAD DISCUSS.

THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

UM, IF NOTHING ELSE, CAN I GET A, I'LL MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

VERY GOOD.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, RIGHT? HAPPY

WITH THAT CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLES TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.

AS I SAID, NOTHING ELSE IS ON THE AGENDA, SO WE WILL, WE WILL MEET.

[FUTURE BUSINESS]

THANKSGIVING.

AND WE, WE'LL MEET AFTER THANKSGIVING, UM, ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER, EXCUSE ME, DECEMBER 3RD, 6:00 PM IN THE EAST ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.

WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.