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I HAD TO CALL THIS[Call to Order]
MEETING TO ORDER.SO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO TONIGHT'S, UH, THE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 BOARD MEETING.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.
UM, ASK EVERYBODY, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR MOBILE DEVICES SILENCED, PLEASE.
AND CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. ROY? PRESENT? MRS. NOLL CHAIR.
MR. DRURY? PRESENT? MR. ROH? HERE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1.* Berkley Group Staffing Study Presentation. ]
GOT SOME PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.CATCH US UP, SPEED ON SOME THINGS.
AND I BELIEVE OUR FIRST TONIGHT IS THE BERKELEY GROUP THAT'S COMING TO JOIN US TO GIVE US A, UH, A STATUS REPORT ON WHERE THEY ARE SO FAR WITH THE WORKER DOING FOR US FOR THE STAFFING STUDY.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AGAIN THIS EVENING.
BEFORE YOU, UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL THE LAST COUPLE TIMES WE'VE COME BEFORE THE BOARD REGARDING THE STAFFING STUDY, UM, WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP THAT WE COMMITTED TO BRINGING THEM MIDWAY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.
AND SO THIS, THIS, UH, MEETING DATE HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM OFFICIALLY SO YOU KNOW WHO WE HAVE WITH US.
I'D LIKE TO START WITH DARREN COFFEY, WHO'S IN THE BACK.
HE'S PRESENT WITH US, UM, BUT HE'S NOT GONNA BE UP HERE PRESENTING, BUT HE'LL CERTAINLY BE THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU NEED, UM, DURING THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING WILL BE JACK CUDDLE AND ERIC CAMPBELL.
AND THEY'RE ALL FROM THE BERKELEY GROUP.
SO WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE.
THEY'RE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.
UM, AND THE NEXT STEP FOR US WOULD BE TO BRING THEM BACK TO YOU IN THE DECEMBER JANUARY TIMEFRAME, UH, FOR A FINAL REPORT ON WRAPPING UP THE STAFFING STUDY.
SO THEY'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT FOR YOU.
BUT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND HAVE THEM DO THEIR PRESENTATION.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR PRESENTATION IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
IS IT JUST ON THE POWERPOINT? YES.
AND THEN GO TO THE RIGHT FAR RIGHT.
AND THEN JUST PUT IT IN PRESENTATION MODE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US BACK THIS EVENING.
WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT AN EXCELLENT REVIEW PROCESSES UNDERWAY, UM, INCLUDING INTERVIEWS WITH NOT ONLY EMPLOYEES, BUT WITH YOU ALL AS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE OCCURRED SINCE WE LAST VISITED.
UH, WE'RE HERE TO GIVE A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN OUR OBSERVATIONS TO DATE.
WE'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE INTERVIEWS, THEN THE ASSESSMENT AND RESEARCH PROCESS BEFORE DELVING INTO SOME OF THE MAIN THEMES THAT WE'LL BE COVERING IN THE OVERALL STUDY.
UM, FIRST WE WANT TO REINTRODUCE YOU TO OUR TEAM.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH MORE DETAILS OF THE BIOS BEFOREHAND, BUT THIS IS THE TEAM THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING THE REVIEW AND THE ASSESSMENT FOR YOUR COUNTY.
UM, JUST A REMINDER, UM, THEY HAVE EACH BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND BUSY WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITY.
I'M SORRY, I'M A CITY MANAGER.
UM, COUNTY, UM, ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO TALKING ABOUT OUR INTERVIEWS, WE'VE INTERVIEWED 52 POSITIONS ACROSS 10 DEPARTMENTS.
AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE FINANCE, TREASURER, COMMISSIONER, REVENUE PARKS AND REC PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, LIBRARIES, HUMAN RESOURCES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, PUBLIC WORKS, AND ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE MET WITH FOUR BOARD MEMBERS TO INTERVIEW AND GET THEIR INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVES ON THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
THOSE INTERVIEWS WERE HELPFUL IN PROVIDING A BROADER CONTEXT AND BACKGROUND AND SET EXPECTATIONS FOR THE ASSESSMENT.
OVERALL, EMPLOYEE INTERVIEWS ARE SUCH A CRITICAL PART OF THIS PROCESS.
THEY ARE DEFINITELY INTEGRAL AND TO MAKING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS RELEVANT TO THE COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY TAILORED TO YOUR NEEDS.
OUR ASSESSMENT AND RESEARCH PROCESS BEGINS WITH REVIEW OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THE STAFF INTERVIEWS THE REPORT DRAFTING ITSELF, AND THEN ULTIMATELY PROVIDING YOU WITH FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
OUR TEAM HAS REVIEWED AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF EXISTING INFORMATION, ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS, WORK DUTIES, WORKFLOWS, BUDGET, BUDGET COMPARISONS, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEY INFORMATION, SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION GIVEN BY EACH DEPARTMENT AND THE SUPERVISORS IN EACH DEPARTMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE PERFORMED BEST PRACTICE RESEARCH ON EACH OF THE 10 DEPARTMENTS,
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UM, ALONG WITH APPLYING OUR TEAM'S DIRECT AND INDIRECT EXPERIENCE IN THOSE AREAS THAT WE WERE REVIEWING.AS JUST MENTIONED, THE INTERVIEWS ARE AN INVALUABLE PART OF THE PROCESS AND HELPS US PAINT A PICTURE OF OUR DAILY COUNTY OPERATIONS, STRENGTHS, CHALLENGES, AND CREATIVE IDEAS.
WE HAVE BEEN BUSY OVER THE PAST MONTHS PLUS ASSIMILATING AND ASSESSING ALL OF THE INFORMATION, UH, REPORT DRAFTING AS WELL UNDERWAY.
AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUGGESTING SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, UH, WITH THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES, FISCAL IMPACT AND A RECOMMENDED TIMELINE FOR YOU ALL.
NEED ONE QUESTIONS? LET'S, HOW, HOW LONG? HOW MANY, LIKE HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION? UM, WE'RE NOT HALFWAY THROUGH.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? JUST FORGOT WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK
THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT TILL THE END.
YOU HAD TWO THINGS IN THERE AT THE VERY END OF YOUR COMMENT.
IF YOU COULD RE REPEAT YOUR COMMENT THERE.
I SAID WE'VE BEEN BUSY OVER THE LAST MONTH.
UM, ASSIMILATING AND ASSESSING ALL THE INFORMATION REPORTING AND DRAFTING, UM, IS WELL UNDERWAY.
AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND SPECIFIC AND SUGGESTING SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES.
SO, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, UM, SO THAT IMPLIES THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING.
WHAT DOES THAT IMPLY? NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DOING.
IT'S BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENT AND BEST PRACTICES COULD BE SOMETHING YOU DO.
YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU COULD BE DOING DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST YOU'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING.
IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE REVIEWED AND SAY, YOU CAN DO IT BETTER IF YOU DO IT THIS WAY.
NOT NECESSARILY THAT SOMETHING'S NOT BEING DONE.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING US TO IMPLEMENT? WELL, I MAKE THEM REFERENCE TO THE OVERALL STUDY.
SO IT DEPENDS ON WHICH DEPARTMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT THE ASSESSMENTS ARE WITHIN ANY GIVEN DEPARTMENT.
SO I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY RIGHT NOW WHAT IT IS.
RIGHT? IT DEPENDS ON THE DEPARTMENTS.
'CAUSE EACH, EACH, UM, WHEN YOU GET THE STUDY IS BROKEN INTO CHAPTERS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I'M SPEAKING BROADLY RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION OR SO ONE SPECIFIC THING THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
I'M TALKING THE OVERALL STUDY IN ITSELF OKAY.
BUT THEN YOU'RE IMPLYING THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME SPECIFIC STRATEGY TO ADDRESS SOME SPECIFIC FUNCTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M EXPECTING TO HEAR.
SO RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE THE OVERARCHING THEMES OF THE STUDY.
WORKFORCE GENERAL BELIEFS, UH, THE GEOGRAPHY, UM, OFFICE LOCATIONS, YES.
TECHNOLOGY, EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL, AND STAFFING LEVELS.
SO THOSE ARE THE BROAD THEMES THAT WILL BE CONTAINED IN THE OVERALL STUDY.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE, JACK TUTTLE, TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL OF EACH OF THESE OVERALL THEMES.
WE'RE, I'M GOING TO STEP THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, UH, BEGINNING WITH WORKFORCE.
AND THE FIRST THING THAT STOOD OUT TO, UH, THE BERKELEY STAFF WAS FRANKLY HOW NICE FORTHCOMING AND HAPPY YORK COUNTY EMPLOYEES APPEAR TO BE EVEN WHEN THEIR GRIEVANCES WERE AIRED.
WHEN WE MET WITH YOUR FOLKS, UH, THE INTENT WE FOUND WAS PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL AND FIND WAYS TO IMPROVE.
UH, TO BE CLEAR, WE MET WITH EVERY LEVEL OF EACH DEPARTMENT GIVEN, UH, TIME AND RESOURCES.
AND WE GOT A WIDE VARIETY OF INPUT.
UM, NOT EVERYBODY HAD POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY, BUT WHEN YOU COMBINE THE INPUT WITH OVER OF OVER 50 PEOPLE, YOU SEE A LOT OF LA AREAS OF OVERLAP THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH EACH OF THESE AREAS AS WE GO DOWN THROUGH THE THEMES, UM, AND POINTING OUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT AND CONCERNS.
SO, I, I GOT TO SAY THAT BERKELEY, IN DOING THIS, UH, IN A NUMBER OF LOCALITIES FOR MANY YEARS, HAVE NOT FOUND A STAFF WITH, WITH GREATER OVERALL POSITIVITY THAN WHAT WE FOUND HERE IN YORK COUNTY.
AND WE DO THANK YOUR STAFF FOR BEING WELCOMING, VERY HONEST AND VERY FORTHCOMING.
UH, THE STAFF IS OVERALL PROFICIENT AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCED.
UH, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE MANY RETIREMENTS, AND THE LABOR MARKET RIGHT NOW IS TIGHT.
UM, FINDING STAFF IS HARD, BUT FINDING THE KIND OF SKILL TRAINED, RELIABLE STAFF THAT YOU NEED IS CHALLENGING, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN ANY TIME WE IN, IN OUR CAREERS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UH, SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE CLEAR JOB, UH, CAREER LADDERS, BUT MOST DO NOT.
WE WILL BE MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, IN OUR REPORT, UH, ON THIS, TRYING TO DO THAT AS COST EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT RETIREMENTS, UH, NOT ONLY EMPHASIZE THE VALUE OF CAREER LADDERS, BUT ALSO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO VACANCIES, WHICH ARE MORE PREVALENT IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC WORKS.
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WITH YOUR WORK AS REQUIRED STAFF, WE'LL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UM, UM, MINIMIZING VACANCIES AND ON RECRUITING AND RETENTION.BUT BE CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANY SILVER BULLETS FROM US ON THESE CHALLENGES.
UH, THEY DO REQUIRE CONSTANT, UH, INVESTMENT AND IN TIME AND MONEY, UH, TO ADDRESS.
SO, JACK, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PRESENT YOUR FINDINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR SPECIFICALLY ON A CAREER LADDER IS WHETHER THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF IS, HAS EVOLVED BEYOND THE MOM AND POP TYPE OF BUSINESS TO A MORE, AND, UH, A MORE INDUSTRIAL OR PROFESSIONAL GREATER MATURED, UM, BUSINESS.
NOW, I, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A STANDARD ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITHIN COM, WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND WITHIN GOVERNMENT.
BECAUSE WHEN, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS STILL A LOT OF MOM AND POP KIND OF STUFF.
YOU KNOW, YOU, EVERYBODY KNEW EVERYBODY BY NAME AND THINGS CHANGED.
SO I'M KIND OF REALLY INTERESTED IN HERE, WHEN YOU COME UP IN YOUR FINAL SOLUTION HERE, RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'M LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE HAVE EVOLVED, IF THAT'S ONE OF OUR ISSUES.
WILL WE GET A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION? UH, DEFINITELY.
WE'RE MOVING ON NOW TO A SECOND OVERARCHING THEME, AND THAT'S GEOGRAPHY AND LOCATIONS.
UH, THIS GEOGRAPHIC REALITY, UH, UM, HAS BEEN ADDRESSED WITH MEN WITH DECENTRALIZED LOCATIONS FOR YOUR STAFF.
BUT OF COURSE, THAT CREATES ITS OWN SET OF INEFFICIENCIES ALONG WITH THE EFFICIENCIES.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU WILL ALWAYS DEAL WITH IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTY.
BUT WE WILL BE HAVING SOME, SOME SUGGESTIONS ON LOCATING AND ON OFFICE LOCATIONS THAT WE HOPE WILL BE HELPFUL.
UH, YOUR IT DEPARTMENT IS AWARD-WINNING.
THEY'RE STATE-OF-THE-ART IN MANY WAYS, BY SOME MEASURES.
UH, THEY ARE, UH, SECOND TO NONE IN VIRGINIA, AND IN FACT, ON ONE, ONE INDICATOR SECOND OVERALL IN THE NATION.
BUT HAVING ALL OF THAT GOOD NEWS, THERE ARE CHALLENGES AND MANY OF THAT, YOUR IT FOLKS ARE WELL AWARE OF.
THE COUNTY HAS SOME DATED SYSTEMS, AND SOME OF IT'S MORE MODERN SYSTEMS NEED UPGRADES AND REPLACEMENT.
THERE ARE ALSO SITUATIONS WHERE THE COUNTY HAS CHOSEN TO IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM, BUT THE STAFF HAS BEEN SLOW TO, UH, IMPLEMENT IT AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL.
MANY OF THESE SITUATIONS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.
UM, BUT THE, UH, DELAYS CAUSED BY THAT DO CREATE INEFFICIENCIES AND SOME DISTRESS AMONG YOUR STAFF AND YOUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS APPLICANTS AND, AND, AND YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UH, THERE'S REALLY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT USING THE ADOPTED COUNTY TECHNOLOGY, BUT THAT SAID, UH, TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO WORK FOR THE STAFF, NOT AGAINST THEM.
AND MODERN PREP PLATFORMS MUST BE EASY TO USE.
AND, UM, UH, IF IT, IF IT IS NOT, THEN IT SHOULD BE REEVALUATED AND REPLACED.
SO, UH, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY TO USE EXISTING AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, AND WE'LL BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE IN OUR REPORT.
UM, C**K ENHANCEMENTS COULD BE MADE THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, BUT PARTICULARLY WE SEE THEM IN THE AREAS OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, HUMAN RESOURCES, FINANCE, AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE, ARE YOU, ARE WE MAINLY TALKING ABOUT SOFTWARE SYSTEMS OR OTHER TECHNOLOGY? TECHNOLOGY? MOSTLY IT'S GOING TO BE THE SOFTWARE YOU'RE USING, BUT IT CAN, IT CAN GET BACK TO YOUR SERVERS.
YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BACKING THAT YOUR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS IT ALL.
BUT NOT, NOT JUST COMPUTE RESOURCES, BUT IS THERE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, HANDHELD, MOBILE TECHNOLOGY THAT MAYBE WE'RE BEHIND? THAT'S, THAT IS ALL PART OF IT.
UH, AND, UH, YES, WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO, UH, TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE NOW TO, TO, UH, UH, ENHANCE.
AND ANOTHER OVERARCHING THEME IS THAT OF UNIFORM, UH, PERSONAL, UH, PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
UH, CURRENTLY, UH, IT'S NOT DONE UNIFORMLY IN, IN THE COUNTY.
UH, MOST DEPARTMENTS DO HAVE A PROCESS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM FOLLOW IT.
A UNIFORM EVALUATION SYSTEM WILL RESULT, WE BELIEVE IN HIGHER MORALE AND EMPLOYEE RETENTION AND HELP WITH THE COUNTY OVERALL WITH, ITS, ITS PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT.
I THINK THIS GETS AWAY FROM THE MOM AND POP THING THAT YEP.
IT'S, YOUR COUNTY IS A LONG WAY FROM MOM AND POP.
WE'RE, WE'RE A LONG WAY FROM MOM AND POP.
NOW REALLY ARE, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE, THE PROCESS I'M TALKING ABOUT PERFORMANCE REVIEW BE DONE CONSISTENTLY, UH, CONSISTENTLY AND EQUITABLY IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.
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UH, THAT HR, WHICH WILL BE LEADING, THAT BE PROVIDED WITH BOTH THE STRONG SUPPORT AND TO EXERCISE THEIR OVERSIGHT ROLE TO ASSIST DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR MANAGERS IN IMPLEMENTATION.AND IT WILL BE IMPERATIVE THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS BUY INTO THE SYSTEM AND COMMIT TO A SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.
CURRENTLY, UH, ALL STAFF RECEIVE SOME PAY ADJUSTMENTS.
HOWEVER, UH, THERE ARE FEW INCENTIVES IN PLACE THAT ADDRESS WHERE THERE IS PERFORMANCE, PERFORM POOR PERFORMANCE AND PAY GOES ON WHETHER YOU'RE PERFORMING WELL OR WHETHER YOU ARE NOT.
SO, UH, THIS INADVERTENTLY, OF COURSE, ENDS UP PUNISHING YOUR VERY BEST WORKERS WHO GO, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND.
SO TYING THAT PERFORMANCE TO PAY OVER SOME TIME, WE THINK THIS WILL TAKE, BUT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.
AND THAT, UM, IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER ACROSS THE BOARD, COST OF LIVING INCREASES, YOU DO THAT.
UH, PAY FOR PERFORMANCE NEEDS TO BE PART OF YOUR PAY SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE.
UH, IN THE PAST, POOR PERFORMANCE HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN ADDRESSED AS EFFECTIVELY AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND OF COURSE, THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS TO THE ORGANIZATION WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
BUT JACK, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STEPS.
I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT? I'M TALKING ABOUT STEPS.
WELL, BUT I KNOW, BUT I, BUT IN THE END, IN A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ONE END AND THE OTHER END.
AND, AND WE USED TO HAVE 32 STEPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT STEPS, STEPS, STEPS ARE REALLY TIED TO LONGEVITY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TYING YOUR PAID PERFORMANCE THAT IS, IS, UH, NOT RELATED TO SIMPLY HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
THE, UM, UM, IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT THOUGH.
IF IT WERE, IF, IF IT WERE EASY TO DO THAT, WELL ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WOULD DO IT, AND MOST DON'T.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GIVE BACK TO PERFORMANCE BASED SYSTEM.
THE, THE STEP SYSTEM, AND I, AND I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON L LONGEVITY.
IF YOU CAN EXIST LONG ENOUGH IN AN ORGANIZATION, YOU GO TO GET CERTAIN REWARDS AND PROMOTIONS JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR EXISTENCE THERE.
UM, AND, AND THAT, THAT MAY HAVE SOME VALUE, BUT REALLY GOING TO YOUR, YOUR POINT, IF, IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE OUTSTANDING WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO REALLY PUT THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND SO FORTH, THE, YOU DEINCENTIVIZE THEM FROM CONTINUING TO PERFORM LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE THEY GO ON, THEY, THEY SEE THERE, THERE'S NO VALUE FOR ME TO DO THAT.
I CAN CREWS GET THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THE SAME REWARD AS THE NEXT PERSON.
SO, UM, SO THE ANNUAL REVIEW TO IDENTIFY THOSE, THOSE FOLKS, AND TO DRIVE THE TYPE OF PERFORMANCE WE WANT TO SEE DRIVE THAT CHALLENGE.
THERE'S A REASON WHY WE, BIG REASON WHY WE'VE MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO, AND, AND I KNOW IT'S COMING OUT THE GATE, IT'S GONNA BE PAINFUL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO THAT.
MY SUPERVISORS ARE NOT USED TO HAVING TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY WITH THEIR DIRECT REPORTS AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT IT'S WHERE, IT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO WELL, WHEN WE SEE YOU FIRST GETTING THAT PERFORMANCE EVALUATION SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING EFFECTIVELY, AND THEN BEING ABLE THEN TO TIE THAT TO, TO PAY.
UH, SO AS, AS A, I HATE TO USE THE WORDS TWO STEP PROCESS, BUT AS A TWO STEP PROCESS.
AND IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO REALLY GET THAT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ONE STEP AT A TIME.
WE GOTTA ESTABLISH IT, THEN WE GOTTA ESTABLISH THE BASELINE OFF OF IT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE WHEN THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW COMES UP.
YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN RIGHT INTO A PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING OF ME? SO, YEP.
SO YOU GOTTA PROVIDE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, PERFORMANCE REVIEWS.
ARE YOU GONNA PROVIDE US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PERFORMANCE REVIEWS? WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU DO IT WITH SOME PARAMETERS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRYING TO DESIGN THE WHOLE SYSTEM FOR YOU.
I KNOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M ALL FOR THAT DOING THAT.
BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT THE TRANSITION FOR A CUL, THAT'S A CHA A CULTURAL TRANSITION.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A WELL DESIGNED SYSTEM AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE IT AND, AND, AND, AND SUPERVISORS AND EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE TRAINED IN IT AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT EASY TO DO.
YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT DONE OVERNIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS AND, UM, UH, THE, THE COUNTY'S, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TO MY RIGHT SPOT HERE.
UM, WE RECOMMEND A, UH, COMMUNICATIONS IS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP IN ALMOST EVERY INTERVIEW.
COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES EXIST BETWEEN STAFF.
UH, THEY EXIST, UH, BETWEEN, UH, DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN YOUR CITIZENS AND
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YOUR COUNTY CUSTOMERS AND STAFF IN ALL INTER INSTANCES, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS ALL OF THAT IN THE ASSESSMENT REPORT.THE ISSUE OF BOARD COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF WAS ALSO, UH, PREVALENT.
DIRECT BOARD COMMUNICATIONS WITH STAFF CAN DISRUPT DAILY OPERATIONS AND PUT STAFF IN AN AWKWARD POSITION.
BUT BOARD MEMBERS REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND FOLLOW UP ON CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS NEEDS TO BE HANDLED EXPEDITIOUSLY.
WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND GUIDELINES FOR STAFF TO USE AND SENDING AND RECEIVING INFORMATION TO AND FROM THE STAFF THAT DOES RESPECT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
ENSURES ALL APPROPRIATE PARTIES ARE KEPT IN THE LOOP AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
SIMPLY PUT, THERE'S A WHITE RIGHT WAY AND A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT.
AND WE RECOMMEND THAT, UM, ALL GOOD BUSINESS OPERATIONS WOULD BE CONDUCTED IN THAT WAY.
SO SUPERVISORS ARE ENCOURAGED TO BRING MATTERS THAT MERIT ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR HIS OFFICE STAFF, UH, FOR APPROPRIATE FO FOLLOW UP.
NOW, SOME MIGHT SAY THAT A BOARD MEMBER MIGHT SAY, ARE, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT I CAN'T EVEN TALK TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, DIRECTLY? AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.
IF IT HAS TO DO WITH COUNTY BUSINESS.
OTHERS WOULD TAKE A MORE NUANCED APPROACH AND SAY, IT'S OKAY FOR SUPERVISOR VERBALLY TO PASS ON A, A CITIZEN REQUEST OR COMPLAINT DIRECTLY TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR TO ASK A QUESTION.
BUT IT'S BETTER FOR, UH, THE SUPERVISOR TO PUT THE INFORMATION IN AN EMAIL OR TEXT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COPYING THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IF YOU SO CHOOSE.
UM, THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE THE BEST WAY TO TRACK MM-HMM.
IN SUCH CASES, THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER NEEDS TO GO TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND, AND OFTEN TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE SO THAT IT CAN BECOME A BOARD DIRECTIVE.
AND THEN THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION WHEN YOU PROVIDE YOUR FINAL REPORT ON THAT.
'CAUSE WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT.
WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE BARRIERS TO GETTING THINGS DONE.
AND I, I THINK THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT UP, AND WE DON'T WANNA GET AWAY FROM THAT EITHER.
AND THEN THINGS GET ACCOMPLISHED PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING IS BUILT UPON RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT, YOU HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS.
YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA MAINTAIN THAT, AND YOU STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU RESPECT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, THAT WE'RE NOT ACTING AS, AS, UH, THEIR SUPERVISORS AS AS EMPLOYERS.
BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET, YOU KNOW, A CALL FROM A CONSTITUENT AND NEEDS HELP WITH SOMETHING AND I KNOW, UH, THE RIGHT PERSON TO TAKE CARE OF IT, HEY, YOU KNOW, QUICK PHONE CALL, IT'S DONE.
IF I GOTTA GO THROUGH A 10 BUCKS PROCESS TO GET IT DONE, THEN, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.
SO I'LL BE CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
THE, THE BUT BY THE SAME, BY THE SAME TOKEN ON THAT, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT YOU COPY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO THAT EVERYBODY'S IN THE LOOP OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
THE, THE, THE FIRST BULLET THERE, IS THIS AN ISSUE BETWEEN TOWERS TALKING TO TOWERS, YOU KNOW, ONE DEPARTMENT TALKING? YEAH.
ANY, ANY, ANYTIME AN ORGANIZATION GETS LARGE, IT CAN TEND TO GO INTO SILOS.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU DO HAVE, UM, YOU DO HAVE DISTINCT GROUPS, BUT ALEX YOU LIKE TO HAVE THE WALLS BETWEEN THE SILOS SHORT AND THE WALLS THIN, SO YOU CAN HEAR ACROSS.
SO YOU'RE, SO THAT THERE IS GOOD COMMUNICATION FLOW BETWEEN YOUR DEPARTMENTS, UH, RECOGNIZING THE ORGANIZATION OF THIS SIZE.
YOU'VE GOT, YOU HAVE DIVISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE, UH, THAT'S HOW YOU OPERATE FROM AND POP OPERATIONS RIGHT.
TO SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM AND ABLE HANDLE THE PROCESSES.
THE, I DO WANT TO SAY ONE THING TO ADD TO THIS, UM, DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PART OF IT'S TRUST A HUGE PIECE OF THIS, THAT THE STAFF CAN TALK TO A SUPERVISOR AND NOT GET THEIR CHAIN IN COMMAND ALL SCREWED UP.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA GO.
SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HARPOONED FOR IT.
IF, UH, IF, UH, A SUPERVISOR COMES IN AND, AND MINES INFORMATION FOR A, UM, FOR AN ALTERNATIVE PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN THERE'S A LACK OF TRUST AND THINGS, THEN YOU, THEN YOU HAVE A DESTRUCTION OF YOUR, UM, OF YOUR BASIC CHAIN OF COMMAND.
AND THE REASON I SAY CHAIN OF COMMAND IS WHEN MUSIC'S THE OLD MILITARY.
BUT IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE MORE, MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF USING PERSONNEL IS THAT YOU FOLLOW THAT.
AND EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THERE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGETING AND ALL THE BITS AND PIECES AND POLICY AT COMP, UH, UH, PO POLICY COMPLIANCE IS BASED UPON THAT.
BECAUSE YOU, YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE AT ONE END OF THE CHAIN NOT HAVING A FULL PICTURE OF, OF THE LEGAL
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OR THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR A BROADER EXPANSION OF SOME ACTION.SO IT'S WHY IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE SUPERVISORS UNDERSTAND THIS CLEARLY.
AND UH, AND IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE POSSIBLY GETTING BEYOND WHAT THEY WANT OR SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, YOU'VE GOTTA GO RIGHT UP TO THE TOP AND, AND, AND, AND ASK FOR HELP.
NOT, AND, AND REQUESTING THINGS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN TELLING SOMEBODY.
UM, OUR LAST THEME THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, TONIGHT'S A MAJOR ONE IN THE REPORT, AND THAT IS OF, OF STAFFING LEVELS.
OUR OBSERVATION HAS BEEN OVERALL THAT THE COUNTY IS APPROPRIATELY STAFFED BASED ON THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
BUT THE, BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE, WE DON'T SEE THE COUNTY AS BEING OVERSTAFFED.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME AREAS, SOME DIVISIONS WHERE THERE APPEARS TO BE MORE STAFF THAN NEEDED AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STAFF TO SUSTAIN CURRENT OR DESIRED OPERATIONS.
AND IN THE REPORT WE'LL BE MAKING SPECIFIC, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON POSITION TRANSFERS OR RECLASSIFICATIONS MM-HMM.
JACK, ARE YOU TAKING ACCOUNT? UH, IS IS JUST, YOU'RE DOING A SNAPSHOT HERE.
SO THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, WHAT WOULD WE CALL THAT? A, A SURGE OF PERSONNEL IN A SHOP, YOU KNOW, UH, DURING TAX ASSESSMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND YOU MAY NEED THAT EXTRA FOLKS AND YOU LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'VE SAID ALREADY.
IF YOU TAKE 'EM OUT, YOU GOTTA GO FIND THEM LATER.
THE COUNTY USES A LOT OF WORK AS REQUIRED EMPLOYEES.
WE DO USE JUST FOR THAT, REQUIRED FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE AN AREA WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON IN THE REPORT AS WELL ABOUT ITS EFFECTIVENESS.
JACK, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THE FIRST, UH, SESSION WE HAD WAS AROUND COMPETENCY AND, AND THE CAPABILITY OF A DEPARTMENT OR AN ORGANIZATION TO CARRY OUT ITS WORK EFFECTIVELY.
SO YOU'VE, I I TAKE IT THAT WHEN USE THE WORD APPROPRIATELY, STAFF, YOU'VE BLENDED IN THAT.
I WOULD SAY BEST THAT THAT'S, THAT'S BLEND.
IF WE, IF WE SEE THAT AN ORGAN JUST, IT CANNOT PERFORM THE TASKS THAT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO DO, WE'LL CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU NOW, I, I, I DON'T EXPECT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT FROM US, THAT WE SEE ON A LARGE SCALE THAT WE'VE GOT A, A DIVISION OR A DEPARTMENT WHICH SIMPLY DOESN'T HAVE THE COMPETENCY TO DO THE JOB.
BUT, UM, THAT OFTEN LEADS TO WHERE DO YOU NEED PLUS RESOURCES, UH, WHERE ARE YOU THIN ON THE GROUND BECAUSE OF STRENGTH OR NEWNESS OF YOUR EMPLOYEES? THAT CAN YES, THAT CAN BE THE CASE.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, AGAIN, NOW SOME STAFFS ARE MINIMALLY OVERSTAFFED, UH, SOME DIVISIONS, BUT MORE FREQUENTLY THAN NOT, UH, WE SEE THAT, UH, THE OPPOSITE'S THE CASE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THIS, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S THE MOST SENSITIVE AND, AND, AND VERY IMPORTANT TO LONG-TERM SUCCESS OF THE COUNTY.
SO OUR GOAL IS GOING TO BE TRY TO BALANCE OUT THE EXISTING POSITIONS WITH OPTIMAL PERFORMANCE, WITH MINIMUM BUDGET IMPACT.
I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO ERIC, UH, TO WRAP THINGS UP.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, DRAFTING REPORT WE'VE BEEN REFERRING TO.
AND, AND IN THE PROCESS OF DRAFTING IT, UM, ASKING COUNTY ADMINISTRATION REVIEW FOR ERRORS AND ADMISSIONS ONLY, UH, PRESENTATION OF FINDINGS TO THE BOARD OF SU OF SUPERVISORS AND IT'S SUBMITTAL OF THE FINAL REPORT.
UM, WE ARE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE DRAFT REPORT IN THE NEXT MONTH TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR REVIEW ONLY.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS ONLY FOR ACCURACY AND ERRORS AND OMISSIONS.
UH, IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, UM, WHEN WE GET THEIR REVIEW.
IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO US AT BERKELEY THAT OUR REPORT IS FACTUALLY ACCURATE.
UM, DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY MISREPRESENTATIONS OR ANY OTHER INACCURACY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, TO AVOID WHEN WE DO THIS.
THIS REVIEW STEP IS IN THE PROCESS, IN THE PROCESS DEPENDS ON THE EXPERTISE OF OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCURATELY REFLECTED THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF, OF THE WORKFORCE HERE IN YORK COUNTY AND THE ORGANIZATION AS A BASELINE FOR OUR ANALYSIS.
OUR NEXT UPDATE TO THE BOARD WILL BE AT THE BOARD'S CONVENIENCE IN EITHER DECEMBER, JANUARY, UM, YOUR PREFERENCE, UM, THAT WILL BE THE PRESENTATION OF OUR FINDINGS.
UH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE FINAL REPORT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BOARD'S PACKAGE, EITHER FOR THAT MEETING OR SUBSEQUENT TO THAT TO THE MEETING.
AND THE FINAL REPORT MAY BE RELEASED PUBLICLY.
AND IF SO, IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE, UH, ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE AT THE ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE OPEN TO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE OF US.
WE'LL START WITH HUGH, THE VERY, THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE WORDS HERE.
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I DON'T WANNA SAY PROCESSES OR, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR NOTES, BUT I, I REALLY, I, I WAS WONDERING, HOW ARE YOU GOING AT THE VERY BEGINNING? UM, YOU SAY WHAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVEN ASK IT BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING I HAD NOT EFFICIEN STRATEGIES, PLANTATIONS.WHAT STRATEGIES WAS BEFORE? IT WAS BEFORE THE STRATEGY BIT.
AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WERE GONNA DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA DO.
AND I, I, I'M TRYING TO, TO IDENTIFY THE SPOT YOU'RE REFERRING.
YOU DIDN'T STOP IT AT THAT POINT.
I SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE I SAID THIS, THE PROCESS.
IT'S OUR, OUR ASSESSMENT AND RESEARCH PROCESS.
WANNA PULL THE SLIDES OUT SO WE GET A VISUAL? NO, YOU HAVE, SEE, I GOTTA HEAR HIS NOTES.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE THE, I DON'T HAVE THE THING TO GO BY.
IF I CAN LOOK AT YOUR NOTES REAL QUICK.
WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, WE'LL GO TO JUST THE JURY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, I'M JUST INTERESTED IN SEEING THE FINDINGS.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY? YEAH, I JUST, DREW AND DARREN INTERVIEWED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I JUST WONDERED, YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
WAS THERE ANY OVERARCHING COMMENT YOU WOULD CARE TO ADD OR FUNCTION? IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND WE APPRECIATED Y'ALL'S TIME.
THERE'LL BE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY STUFF IN THE FINAL REPORT.
Y'ALL HELPED US SUS OUT QUITE A BIT.
UM, SO YEAH, WE FOUND IT TO BE VERY USEFUL.
INTEGRAL, IT'S ALWAYS MY FAVORITE PART IS MEETING STAFF.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHO GETS DONE SO IMPORTANT.
NO, WELL, I'M, I'M THINKING AS YOU SAID, JACK, THE COUNTY'S SPREAD OUT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'VE GOT POCKETS OF PEOPLE WORKING IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND I CAN SEE WHERE THAT CAN LEAD TO INEFFICIENCY OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUGGESTIONS MIGHT BE ABOUT COALESCING EVERYTHING, BUT I LOOK AT IT AND I LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COST A LOT MONEY.
AND SO WE DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE THE BEST WAY WE CAN.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE REPORTING IT, JUST PLEASE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT PIE IN THE SKY
THAT WE CAN MAKE, IF WE SPOT SOME OPPORTUNITIES, WE'LL TELL YOU, UH, IF, UH, BUT YOU, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, REBUILD THE GOVERNMENTAL CENTER 10 MILES.
THANK YOU TO KNOW DISTRICT ONE
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT DID YOU FIND? COULDN'T FIND IT.
I WAS READING TOO FAST, OR, SORRY.
SO YOU DEMONSTRATED TONIGHT THAT YOU, YOU ALL HAVE COLLECTED A LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA ACROSS SOME DIVERSE TOPICS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU ABLE TO COLLECT THAT DOWN INTO THESE, THESE OVERARCHING THEMES AND WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THINGS.
UM, STILL IT'S A LOT OF DATA TO LOOK AT.
AND I'M CURIOUS, YOU CAN KIND OF SPEAK TO THE MECHANISM TECH, THE TECHNOLOGY YOU USE TO, TO PULL THAT DATA IN TO, TO DILUTE IT DOWN INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PRESENT.
I MEAN, IT'S A FOREST BEFORE THE TREES TYPE THINGS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE I GOT A BIG FOREST, BUT IT'S KINDA HARD TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU FARM? HOW DO YOU MANAGE IT? AND SO FORTH.
SO HOW DO YOU MANAGE ALL THAT DATA YOU HAVE? WHAT TECHNOLOGIES DID YOU USE TO LOOK FOR THESE THEMES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING IN, IN ALL, IN ALL THAT DATA THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A REALLY, IT'S A REALLY GOOD SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT LOOKING AT IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TOOLS DID YOU USE TO HELP YOU DO THIS ASSESSMENT? WELL, AND, AND I'LL LEAN ON, UM, DARREN TO, TO FOLLOW UP.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WITH THE PROCESS, OUR, OUR TEAM WAS SET UP INTO GROUP IN GROUPS OF TWOS, UM, TO BREAK DOWN THE OVERALL INFORMATION.
'CAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH DATA THAT WE HAD TO FIND A WAY TO BREAK IT DOWN, TO LOOK AT THE NUANCE OF IT.
UM, AND THEN WE MET AS A TEAM AMONG OURSELVES TO TALK ABOUT COMMON THEMES AND REPORTS AND NOTES FROM OUR INTERVIEWS.
SO NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE DATA, BUT TALKING TO THE EMPLOYEES TO STAFF INTERVIEWS.
THEN WE STARTED IDENTIFYING THEMES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS AND MECHANISMS WHERE THERE WERE CONNECTIONS.
SO THOSE WERE THE, THE WAY WE CAME UP WITH OUR OVERALL THEMES.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, DARREN? YEAH.
I MEAN, GOOD OLD FASHIONED, YOU KNOW, HUMAN EXPERIENCE IS THE BIGGEST THING WE'VE LEANED ON.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN PLAYING A BIT WITH CHAT GPT TO ASK WHAT NACO MIGHT HAVE IN CERTAIN AREAS, WHAT VACO MIGHT HAVE IN CERTAIN AREAS.
AND WE USED, JACK FOUND THE, IT'S NOT A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT REPORT, BUT IT'S THE RIGHT, IT'S STATE COMPARATIVE, IT'S THE STATE'S COMPARISON REPORT, COMPARATIVE ANNUAL REPORT.
YOU CAN DO APPLES TO APPLES FOR COUNTY DEPARTMENTS IN SOME AREAS, UM, AND OTHERS, IT IS JUST NOT GONNA BE APPLICABLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS
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JUST A VERY UNIQUE AND LARGE CREATION THAT IS BORN OF THE, THE NEED OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THEIR COUNTIES AND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER COMPARISONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE.
UH, FINANCE HAS VERY, UH, MEASURABLE AND DEFINABLE BEST PRACTICES.
UM, SO ALL OF THAT COMES INTO PLAY.
BUT THE TEAMS OF TWO THAT ERIC MENTIONED, THEIR EXPERTISE IS WHAT WE RELIED ON INITIALLY.
AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, I AM PLAYING WITH TECHNOLOGY A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT IT CAN DO AND WHAT IT CAN'T DO.
IT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHAT IT CAN DO.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS HOPE HOPING TO HEAR THAT YOU, YOU ARE LEANING ON THAT TOO, AS WELL AS, AS PERSONAL EXPERTISE.
I MEAN, IF YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU TOOK ALL THE DATA, ALL THE COMMENTS AND, AND THREW IT IN THE CHAT GPT AND IT SAID, HEY, YOU CHAT DPT GIVE, GIVE ME THE COMMON THEMES AS, AS A, AS A SINGLE, AS ONE DATA POINT ALONG WITH YOUR PERSONNEL.
AND TWO, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE RAISED AN EYE RIGHT ON ME, ME AT ALL.
SO, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA AND I, I NEED TO DO THAT.
READING ALL THE NOTES AND ALL THE INTERVIEWS.
AND SO THAT MAY A, THAT MAY BE A GOOD EXERCISE.
SEE, SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT DOES HE DOING? I, NO, IT WILL BE A GOOD EXERCISE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ACTUALLY WITH, UH, A COLLEAGUE ON SOME OTHER THINGS WITH REGARD TO OUR BUSINESS.
AND HE USES AI FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
AND IT'S JUST KIND SCARY, SCARY HOW ACCURATE AND GOOD IT IS.
NOW, I, AS YOU KNOW, IF I'M ASKING IT A PLANNING QUESTION AND IT SPITS SOMETHING OUT AT ME, I CAN GO THROUGH IT AND GO, NOPE, NOPE.
BECAUSE OF THE HUMAN COMPONENT AND EXPERIENCE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I COULD SPEND TWO HOURS DRAFTING THAT DOCUMENT AND IT'S NOT AS GOOD OVERALL.
WHEREAS I'LL TAKE 10 MINUTES AND EDIT IT AND THEN IT'S PERFECT
IT'S, AND IT'S A TOOL LIKE ANY OTHER TOOL, JUST USE IT SMARTLY.
AND IT'LL HELP, IT'LL HELP YOUR, AND IF YOU'RE NOT LEARNING HOW TO USE 'EM, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE BACK TO MOM AND POP RIGHT.
AS THE REST OF THE WORLD'S JUST GONNA BLOW RIGHT PAST YOU.
SO THEN WE ALL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE IT.
SO I HEARD, I HAD HER HEARD A GREAT QUOTE AT WORK TODAY.
'CAUSE INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, UM, LIKE LUNCH AND LEARN SESSIONS TYPE THING OF WORK ON AND GENITOR AI, AI TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS BEING USED.
AND SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT, UM, I KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN THAT AI WILL TAKE OVER YOUR JOB.
AND THEY SAID ACTUALLY THE, THE CONCERN SHOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS HOW TO USE AI WILL TAKE OVER YOUR JOB.
SO IT IT'S A TOOL SET EVERYBODY NEEDS TO YEAH.
NEEDS TO EMBRACE AND GET COMFORTABLE WITH AND, AND USE IT FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.
ASK IT, HEY, WHAT, WHAT DOES MY STOCK PORTFOLIO LOOK LIKE? COULD IT BE PERFORMING BETTER? UM, HEY, I, I GOT THESE THINGS IN MY REFRIGERATOR, WHAT MEAL CAN I MAKE WITH IT? AND THEN THEY'LL CRANK OUT SOMETHING FOR YOU.
IT'S THAT GENE IS NOT GOING BACK IN A BOTTLE, SO MIGHT AS WELL USE IT.
AND, AND ROBOTIC PROCESS AUTOMATION.
STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE HUMAN COMPONENT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOLKS? NO, I THINK THAT'S BEEN GREAT.
WELL, THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
COMING UP HERE VISITING WITH US AND GIVING US A READOUT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE, THE FINAL READOUT.
I'M, MY GUT FEELING IS IT WILL PROBABLY BE A JANUARY REVIEW, JUST KIND OF THINKING THE WAY THE REST OF THE MEETING YEARS GONNA SHAPE UP.
BUT WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT.
[2.* Sheriff’s Update: Receive Presentation from Sheriff Ron Montgomery. ]
PRESENTATION.SHERIFF MONTGOMERY IS HERE TO SPEAK WITH US TONIGHT.
YOU WANNA SIT UP HERE WITH US? I WOULD LOVE TO.
I DIDN'T WANNA SEE YOU STANDING BACK THERE.
I WAS ASKED TONIGHT TO, UH, COME AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE SCHOOL RADAR ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS AND HOW IT'S GOING ALONG.
SO JUST TO KIND OF REGRESS FOR A MOMENT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
LAST YEAR, UH, THERE WAS TWO STUDIES RAN ON FIVE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
AND THE SECOND ONE WAS IN NOVEMBER RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL STARTED, WE GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES.
AND THE RESULTS WERE IN FIVE DAYS.
THERE WERE 3,725 VIOLATIONS IN THESE FIVE SCHOOLS RECORDED BY THIS SOFTWARE.
SO I WAS CLEARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
IN JANUARY, I CAME BEFORE YOU AND ASKED YOU TO PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT WE GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO USE THIS SOFTWARE AND IMPLEMENTED, WHICH WE DID.
SO DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, NOT ONLY DID WE GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION, WE, WE STARTED OFF WITH SIX SCHOOLS AND THE SIX OF BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL,
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SEAFORD ELEMENTARY, GRAFTON, BETHEL DARE ELEMENTARY, TAB ELEMENTARY AND NEW YORK HIGH SCHOOL.SO THE REASON I SELECTED THESE SCHOOLS IS THEY HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBERS WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY BEFORE, THEY ALSO HAD THE NECESSARY STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS YELLOW LIGHTS ALREADY INSTALLED.
SO THE END RESULT WAS THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INSTALL THIS SYSTEM AND THIS SOFTWARE AT ABSOLUTELY NO COST TO THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY.
DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK THE SCHOOLS TO ADD YELLOW LIGHTS, WHICH IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO ASK THE SCHOOLS TO ADD YELLOW LIGHTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW.
SO DURING THE SUMMERTIME, UH, WE MET WITH THE ULTIMATE, WHICH IS THE CORPORATION THAT WE SELECTED.
UM, WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING AND THE IMPLEMENTATION, ALL THE, THE LOGISTICS OF THIS, UH, GOT ALL THE PERMITS THAT WERE REQUIRED.
AND OUR GOAL WAS TO START ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, WHICH IS AUGUST THE 26TH.
THE ONLY LITTLE HICCUP WE HAD IS, UH, WE HAD TO START A COUPLE OF 'EM WHERE WE HAD TO USE SOLAR POWER GENERATORS BECAUSE DOMINION ENERGY WILL NOT ACTUALLY INSTALL DIRECT POWER TO THESE SYSTEMS UNTIL THEY'RE INSTALLED AND APPROVED.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT ARE STILL RUNNING ON GENERATORS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE SOLAR POWERED.
BUT WE STARTED THE 30 DAY WARNING PERIOD, WHICH WE ADVERTISED DURING THE SUMMER MULTIPLE TIMES ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, EVERY OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, I MADE 'EM AWARE OF THIS AND WHY WE WERE DOING IT.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS A SURPRISE.
SO ON AUGUST THE 26TH, THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, THE SYSTEM WENT LIVE.
SO WE STARTED TRACKING THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS THAT WE HAD DURING THIS WARNING PERIOD.
AND WHEN I SAY WARNING PERIOD, IF YOU WENT THROUGH THERE AND YOU EXCEEDED THE POSTED SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMIT BY 11 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE, WHICH THE STATUTE REQUIRES 10, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ENACTED THAT, THAT IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 10.
I BUMPED IT UP ONE MORE TO 11, SO THERE WAS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
THEN YOU WOULD RECEIVE A WARNING CITATION THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE WHEN IT WENT LIVE, EXCEPT IT HAD IN BOLD RED LETTERS WARNING ON THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY, UH, TO MAKE THOSE PEOPLES EVEN MORE AWARE THAN ALL THE ADVERTISEMENT SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE HAD ALREADY DONE.
SO DURING THE 30 DAY PERIOD, WHICH ENDED ON SEPTEMBER THE 25TH, WE ISSUED 2059 SUMMONS DURING THAT TIME WARNING.
SO THAT'S OVER A 30 DAY PERIOD.
WHEREAS BEFORE WE HAD, IF I WOULD MIND YOU, 3,725 AND FIVE DAYS, THIS IS 2059 AND FOUR WEEKS OR MORE OF SCHOOL, QUITE THE REDUCTION AT AVERAGES 98 PER DAY.
WHEREAS BACK IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE DID THAT SURVEY, IT WAS 745 PER DAY.
SO DURING THE WARNING PERIOD, WE DROPPED DOWN FROM 745 TO 98 PER DAY.
SHERIFF, COULD YOU GIVE US A BREAKDOWN BY SCHOOL? I COULD, YES, SIR.
UM, BUT IT'S ALL IN THIS PAPERWORK, SO IF YOU LIKE, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
IT'S SEVERAL PAGES, IT'S EASIER.
SO ON, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN CAPTURING THIS IN OUR NEWSLETTERS, THAT'S WHY.
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU.
SO ON SEPTEMBER THE 26TH, THAT WEEK AGAIN, UH, WE WENT, WE ADVERTISED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FACEBOOK PAGE.
NO, SEPTEMBER THE 26TH, IT BECOMES REAL.
SO THE NUMBERS SINCE SEPTEMBER THE 26TH HAVE DROPPED EVEN FURTHER IN, WHICH WAS LAST THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND THROUGH YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, WE HAD ISSUED 2,223 REAL VIOLATIONS, WHICH ARE 74 PER DAY.
SO IF THAT AVERAGE STAYS UP, WE'RE ALREADY A 90% REDUCTION IN SPEEDERS GOING THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES.
AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS ON THOSE 74, UH, BREWTON HIGH SCHOOL HAS HAD 27, THAT'S BASICALLY THE SOUTHBOUND LANE.
THERE'S A HUGE DISCREPANCY THERE, WHICH WE FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT IS.
DARE ELEMENTARY HAD 23 GRAFT AND BETHEL HAD 21 SEAFORD, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY LARGEST COMPLAINTS BACK WHEN WE STARTED.
YORK CONTINUES TO LEAD THE WAY AND PROBABLY WILL FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE OF WHERE IT SITS AT 136.
SO NOW, NOW YOU'VE ISSUED THE SUMMONS OR YOU'VE SENT THEM A TICKET, THEY'LL START GETTING 'EM NOW.
AND YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN PAYMENT BACK? OH, NO.
ONCE I GET SUM 30 DAYS TO PAY YOU BACK, NOW YOU'RE DOING, DOING A GREAT JOB.
SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT REALLY DROPS OFF ALL THE MORE, HOW, UH, BENEFICIAL IS IT FOR THE COMPANY THAT IS
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PUTTING UP? WELL, AS I SAID WHEN I WAS BEFORE THE BOARD IN JANUARY, I'D LIKE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY.MONEY CAN GET THEIR EQUIPMENT.
BUT THEN WILL THEY REMOVE THE OH YEAH.
IF THEY, IF THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY DON'T WANNA DO THIS ANYMORE BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE THAT LOW, THEY'LL COME AND REMOVE IT.
SO, SO RON, YOU SAID THAT THAT, UH, AFTER THE 26TH THEY DID 237 REAL VIOLATIONS, 223 A REAL VIOLATIONS.
WHERE WE WERE IN NOVEMBER, WE WERE 745 PER DAY.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT BETWEEN OUR ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL SUMMER LONG AND THE GENERAL COOPERATION OF THE COMMUNITY, I'D SAY WE'VE MADE LIKE THE REDUCTION AND MADE THE SCHOOL ZONES AT LEAST IN THOSE SIX, A WHOLE LOT SAFER THAN THEY WERE BACK IN NOVEMBER.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID HAS REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, JUST NOW REALIZING THAT WE HAVE SCHOOLS WITHOUT LIGHTED SCHOOL ZONES.
HOW MANY? A FEW THAT I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF THE BAT ARE WALLER MIDDLE DOESN'T HAVE 'EM.
YORK MIDDLE SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE 'EM.
MCGRUDER SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE 'EM.
AND A LOT OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LOGISTICS OF WHERE IT'S SITTING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK HIM, WHY.
BUT THE, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME, THE REASON WE PUT THOSE LIGHTS IN IS BECAUSE OF SAFETY.
I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GETS THEIR ATTENTION.
SO, SO YOU'VE DONE AN EVALUATION OF THOSE IN THE AND PRIOR TO EVERYTHING.
AND WERE THEY, THOSE SCHOOLS, WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF VIOLATIONS? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL THIS YEAR, WHEN WE STARTED SCHOOL YEAR, I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY AS WELL.
AND I'LL REMIND YOU, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PARENTS THAT NOW PUT THEIR, THEIR DRIVE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, I HAVE SEVERAL SCHOOLS THAT FIVE DAYS A WEEK, I HAVE MULTIPLE DEPUTIES TIED UP.
UH, YORKTOWN ELEMENTARY IS ONE OF 'EM.
YORKTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ONE OF 'EM.
AND THE PROBLEM THERE IS THAT WHAT CONCERNED ME IS THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC IS BACKING UP ON GUZZI ROAD, PAST STATION FOUR TO THE POINT WHERE I'D HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, CHIEF KSKY STAFF OVER THE FACT THAT IT, DURING THE TIME THAT IT WAS BACKED UP, WHEN PARENTS WOULD BRINGING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL BUSES, IF THEY HAD TO LEAVE THAT PAD IN FRONT OF STATION FOUR, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TURN AND GO TOWARDS ROUTE 17.
SO WE PUT A DRONE IN THE AIR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND REALIZED WHAT THE ISSUE WAS.
AND THE NICE THING ABOUT FILMING THIS, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN SCHOOL OFFICIALS, SIT 'EM DOWN IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SHOW THEM WHERE THE SNAG WAS.
AND THEN WITHIN ONE DAY WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAR THAT SITUATION UP.
WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION AT WALLER MILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH WALLER MILL ROAD, THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKING UP IN THE MORNING FROM WILDER MILL SCHOOL, ALMOST ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE INTERSECTION OF BYPASS ROAD.
SO WE PUT THE DRONE IN THE AIR THERE, WORKED OUT THE LOGISTICS OF THAT, FIXED THAT SCENARIO AS WELL.
SO BETWEEN THE SCHOOL RADAR CAMERAS AND THE FACT OF USING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT A MINUTE AGO IN THE FORMER PRESENTATION ABOUT USING TECHNOLOGY AND HOW IT CAN MAKE THINGS SO MUCH BETTER USING DRONE TECHNOLOGY.
WE ACTUALLY FIXED TWO OTHER SCHOOLS WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO DO ANYTHING.
SO CAN YOU TELL US JUST BRIEFLY WHAT THE GENERAL FIX WAS? WE, WITH THE, WHAT WE REALIZED AT YORKTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL IS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE BRINGING KIDS IN NOW, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT SCHOOL WAS DESIGNED, AS YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR, THAT WAS A HIGH SCHOOL BILL BACK IN THE FIFTIES.
WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC.
SO WE'RE THE SCHOOL IS BRINGING THE, THE INCOMING TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL PAST WHERE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS.
AND THEY GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S A, A PARKING LOT ON THE FAR END.
WELL, THE PARENTS ARE COMING AROUND THERE AND THEY'RE STACKING UP IN THE MORNINGS.
THEY'RE, THEY GET EARLIER AND EARLIER BECAUSE THEY WANNA BE FIRST ROUTE OF THE BUSES.
WELL THE BUSES COME IN THE FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KEEP 'EM SEPARATED.
SO THEY GO AROUND THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL.
WELL, WHAT WE REALIZED WHEN WE WERE WATCHING THE VIDEO IS YOU'VE GOT THIS LONG DISTANCE FROM WHERE YOU TURN THE CORNER WHERE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ARE TO THE FAR CORNER WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS, WHERE THE KIDS ARE LET OUT, WHERE THE PARENTS WERE WAITING ONE AT A TIME TO GET THROUGH THAT LINE TO DROP THEIR KIDS THERE, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE FOUR OR FIVE CARS EMPTYING OUT AS OPPOSED TO ONE 'CAUSE THEN THEY HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND.
SO ONCE WE POINTED THAT OUT TO THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS, THEY WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL STAFF THERE AT YORKTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND NOW IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT ISSUE.
AND WE'VE SPOT CHECKED IT AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THE ISSUES ON GOOLEY ROAD WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD ESSENTIALLY BE, BE TRAFFIC.
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DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING.WE HAD TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK WE FIX OR WE JUST HAD TO USE IT.
WHILE WE WERE DOING MORE EFFICIENTLY.
WE JUST USED THE DRONE TO SHOW THEM WHAT THE ISSUE WAS.
AND IT WAS LIKE, YES, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
SO, AND THAT SOLVED THE PROBLEM.
CHANGING THE LIGHTS OR ANYTHING.
DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT.
WHAT DID YOU CHANGE? WHAT DID THEY CHANGE? I MEAN, THEY APPROACH, THEY HAVE MORE STAFF OUT THERE NOW AND THEY'VE MADE IT THE PARENTS AWARE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET ALL THE WAY TO HERE, LET THEIR KIDS WALK FROM HERE TO HERE.
IT'S ONLY 50 OR 60 MORE FEET, BUT YOU'VE GOT FIVE OR 10 CARS THAT ARE NOW RELEASING KIDS AS OPPOSED TO ONE AT A TIME WHERE YOU'VE GOT THIS LONG LINE BACKED ALL THE WAY UP WAITING TO BE THE ONE PERSON AT A TIME.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE DROPPED KIDS OFF ANYWHERE, THEY'RE NOT USUALLY IN A BIG HURRY.
WALK AROUND, OPEN UP THE TRUNK OF THE SUV, GET THEIR STUFF OUT, YOU KNOW, SO IT TAKES SOME TIME.
WELL, ONCE WE EXPEDITED THAT PROCESS, WE ELIMINATED THAT PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT
HOW YOU GET PASSENGERS OUT, PEOPLE OUT THE FRONT.
WELL, I MEAN, USING THAT TECHNOLOGY, WOULD I ABLE TO GIVE THEM A VISUAL, FIXED IT IN A MATTER OF HOURS AS A MATTER, AS OPPOSED TO SCRATCHING OUR HEAD FOR DAYS THINKING WHY IS THIS BACKING UP AT THESE LOCATIONS? AND WE'VE USED IT.
OTHERS, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE BOUGHT SOME TECHNOLOGY RECENTLY, SOME NEWER, WHAT'S CALLED STEALTH STAT.
UM, MR. SHEPHERD'S AWARE OF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC SURVEYS WE'VE DONE.
AND I'M ALREADY PUTTING IT AT SOME OF THE, THE SCHOOLS THAT, UM, DON'T HAVE THE SPEED RADAR ENFORCEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF FROM A LOT OF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE, THE LATE EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES WHEN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED A $200 SPEED LIMIT, ADDITIONAL, UH, FINE.
WELL, WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST ONE IN YORK COUNTY, IT ALMOST BECAME A STATUS THING.
WELL, IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOT IT, MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO HAVE IT.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN, YOU REALIZE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GET SUMMONS IS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, BUT IF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAD IT, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE IT.
WELL, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS WITH THE SCHOOL RADAR ENFORCEMENT NOW.
OKAY, WHY DOESN'T MY SCHOOL HAVE THESE CAMERAS? SO WE'RE PUTTING THESE STEALTH STATS OUT RIGHT NOW AND EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE BASED ON THE TRAFFIC INFORMATION AND THE SPEEDS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AT A SCHOOL BY SCHOOL BASIS.
THESE ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOODS OR ANYTHING SUCH? NO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE SCHOOL.
THEY'RE THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE CAN INSTALL THESE CAMERAS BY STATUTE RIGHT NOW.
SCHOOL ZONE IN WORK ZONES OR SCHOOL ZONES.
AND THERE'S ONE SPECIFIC IN OTHER PLACE THAT'S CALLED A HAZARDOUS INCIDENT ZONE.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE HAD A TRAFFIC FATALITY WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, BUT THEN IT ADDS TO A SCHOOL.
WELL, I'VE ALREADY GOT CAMERAS IN THE SCHOOL, SO I'M ALSO TALKING TO SOME OF OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OF THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE SEVERAL LOCALITIES IN YORK COUNTY DOWN HERE IN DANDY WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING PLACE IF THEY WOULD TAKE THE WORD SCHOOL OUT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A TRAFFIC FATALITY.
WE'VE HAD TWO GOING INTO DANDY IN THE LAST YEAR.
THERE WERE SPEED RELATED AND THAT CURVE JUST PASSED BACK CREEK PARK.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME RADAR ENFORCEMENT IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL TAKE THE WORD SCHOOL ZONE OUT OF THE HAZARDOUS INTERSECTION.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M LOST THERE A LITTLE BIT.
UH, YOU KNOW WHAT? IS THAT WHAT THE CAMERAS OR WITH SQUEEZE CAMERAS? RIGHT.
BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TAB HIGH SCHOOL YOU HAD THE THREE KIDS, THE THREE BOYS, 16 YEAR OLDS THAT WOULD MAKE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE PLACE WHERE YES.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT TAB HIGH SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE PLACES I'M EVALUATING NOW TO SEE IF WE'RE GONNA PUT THE SAME CAMERAS IN THAT WE HAVE AT THE OTHER SIX WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO NOT ONLY THOSE THREE BOYS, BUT YOU HAD ONE OVER BY THE, UH, THE, UM, EPISCOPAL CHURCH.
IT WAS, I THINK A CHILD THAT GOT HIT BY A CAR 'CAUSE THEY WERE WALKING FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SCHOOL.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE PLACES WHERE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE WORD SCHOOL ZONE IN THERE, IN THAT THOUSAND FEET FROM WHERE THE FATALITY OCCURRED, THAT WE COULD ADD THESE CAMERAS.
SO SHERIFF, I HAD ONE FOLLOW UP.
UH, THE WALLER MILL SITUATION WITHOUT FLASHING LIGHTS, I THINK THAT WILL ONLY GET WORSE AS THE NEW WALLER MILL HEIGHTS BEGINS TO OPEN UP AND YOU GET A LOT MORE TRAFFIC FLOW ALONG.
AND THAT, THAT ONE WE'VE BEEN PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO BECAUSE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WAS INITIALLY INCOMING TRAFFIC INTO THE SCHOOL.
BUT NOW AS THEY'RE TURNING, NOW WE'VE GOT THAT NEW HOUSING AREA AND WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THE ISSUES THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT AS FAR AS, THANK YOU.
THE ENFORCEMENT THERE AS WELL.
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SO AT THE SCHOOLS THAT DON'T HAVE THE LIGHTS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT BASICALLY THERE'S NO VALUE NOW TO HAVE THE LIGHTS? NO, THERE IS, THE REASON I, I CHOSE THE SIX THAT ALREADY HAD, I KNOW I CHOSE SIX, BUT I, I'M OF GETTING TO A BIGGER ISSUE OF DO WE NEED TO FUND YES.THE SCHOOL FOR MORE LIGHTS? THE QUESTION ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE CORRECT.
IF I WAS TO, LET'S TAKE, UM, LET'S TAKE WILDER MILL ELEMENTARY, BASED ON WHAT HE JUST SAID.
IF THE STEAL, IF THE STEALTH STAT STUDIES THAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW SAY, OKAY, THE AVERAGE SPEED IN FRONT OF THAT SCHOOL DURING THE TIME THAT THE, THEY'RE GOING IN AND COMING OUT IS 11 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SOME PLANNING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE LIGHTS IN THAT SINCE THEY'RE NOW ALREADY THERE.
SO WOULD THE SCHOOL, SO DOES THE SCHOOL MAKE THAT REQUEST OR DOES THE COUNTY MAKE THE REQUEST FOR THE SCHOOL LIGHT? FOR THE LIGHTS? THE SCHOOL IS THE ONE THAT MAKES THE REQUEST.
THE, THE, THE SCHOOL CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT LIGHTS THERE, THEN SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE COUNTY CAN DECIDE WHERE THEY WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH.
UM, UM, WELL THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I'M ASKING.
I'M KIND OF ASKING THE SPEED CAMERA.
'CAUSE THERE'S BE SOME, MAYBE SOME SCHOOLS, I'M SURE THAT JUST ON LOCATION, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA SEE SPEED THERE.
'CAUSE THEY GOTTA STOP FOR A STOP SIGN.
WELL TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, TAB MIDDLE SCHOOL, IF ANYBODY'S TRAVELED THAT ROAD IN THE MORNING, HOW CONGESTED IT IS.
AND I, THE, AND GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS GONNA TELL YOU, THERE'S A HUGE DISCREPANCY AMONG DURING THE 30 DAY TRIAL PERIOD, AND NOW THAT WE'VE GONE LIVE BETWEEN THE SOUTHBOUND LANE OF BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL, WHERE YOU WOULD PASS BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL ON THE RIGHT AS THE COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION WITH BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL ON THE LEFT.
AND I WAS WONDERING WHY ARE THE NUMBERS SO DIFFERENT? FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WEEK 35, WHICH IS THE FIRST WEEK OF BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL, THERE WAS 69 WARNING VIOLATIONS FOR THE SOUTHBOUND LANE.
ONLY EIGHT FOR THE NORTHBOUND SLOW DOWN.
WHEN YOU GO TO SEE IT, THE PROBLEM IS, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE COMING THAT HAVE TO TURN NOW ACROSS TRAFFIC.
IF THEY'RE TURNING LEFT, THE TRAFFIC STACKS UP.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD UP THE SPEED THAT'S GONNA GIVE 'EM A VIOLATION.
WHEREAS THE SOUTHBOUND, IF THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO THE SCHOOL, IT'S JUST A, A RIGHT HAND TURN.
THEY REALLY DON'T SKIP A BEAT OR THEY KEEP GOING STRAIGHT AND NOTHING'S HOLDING 'EM UP.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S SUCH A BIG DISCREPANCY THERE.
THE, THE BACKUP OF THE TRAFFIC IS PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM GETTING SUMMONS IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DRIVE THAT FAST.
AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER SCHOOLS SIMILAR TO THAT.
SO LISTEN, CAN PLAY ABOUT THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC RIGHT.
UNTIL IT INFLUENCES OTHER PLACES.
DO YOU HAVE DATA ON WHERE IN THE SCHOOL ZONE PEOPLE ARE GETTING PICKED UP OR GOING TOO FAST? THE INFERENCE OR THE EXIT? NO, THESE ARE, THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE, AREN'T THEY? WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE CAMERA'S AT, BUT I WONDER WHERE THEY'RE GETTING PICKED UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S 10 FEET IN OR IF IT'S 50 FEET IN.
I ONLY CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE CALIBRATED THAT IT'S INSIDE THE YELLOW LIGHTS.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT, IF IT'S AN ISSUE MAINLY WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S HALFWAY THIS, WE'RE HALFWAY THAT WAY.
IF IT'S, I JUST WONDERING IF PEOPLE HAVE MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH TRYING TO SLOW DOWN AS THEY APPROACH IT, OR IF THEY'RE GETTING ON THE GAS TOO SOON BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THE SCHOOL ZONE.
IS THAT, 'CAUSE I I KNOW IT, IT, IT, IT IS PROBABLY EASY FOR PEOPLE ONCE THEY GET ACTUALLY PAST THE PHYSICAL SCHOOL TO START GETTING BACK IN THE GAS.
BUT THE, THE SCHOOL ZONE SIGN MAY BE ANOTHER 50, A HUNDRED YARDS DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE UP TO SPEED AND NOT REALIZING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THERE'S AN ANSWER FOR THAT THAT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC
YOU SHOULD'VE SAID, OH, I'M NOT TEACHING WHAT HAPPENED TO TRANSPARENCY.
I'M NOT TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM.
JUST EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL OF WHERE THE ACTUAL ZONE BEGINS AND ENDS.
IT'S NOT JUST PAST THE SCHOOL.
WE DON'T NEED TO GET IN THE WEEDS.
BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA COME BACK AND TALK TO US AGAIN? AFTER? WHENEVER YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
I THAT'S A GOOD, WHAT'S A GOOD TIME A YEAR FROM NOW? OR? I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TOWARDS THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR WHEN I'VE GOT SEVERAL, TWO OR THREE MONTHS OF DATA TO SEE IF THESE NUMBERS HOLD.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED FROM THE LOCALITIES AROUND VIRGINIA THAT I TALKED TO WHEN WE WERE IMPLEMENTING THIS IS IF YOU DON'T KEEP UP WITH INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT ON A REGULAR BASIS, PEOPLE GET COMPLACENT AFTER THAT FIRST WARNING PERIOD WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF ADVERTISEMENT AND YOU'LL SEE THE SPEEDS AND THE NUMBERS START TO CLIMB AGAIN.
AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT.
SO WE HAVE A REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'M GONNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE AND SAY, HEY, REMEMBER THE SCHOOL ZONES AND THIS IS THE ISSUE AND I'LL TALK TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE NUMBERS, BUT I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BACK WHEN WE'VE GOT TWO, THREE MONTHS WORTH OF DATA TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO THIS RIGHT AFTER
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IT STARTED TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA STAY IN THE NUMBERS THAT I'M HOPING IT STAYS.AND THEN PROBABLY ANOTHER READOUT AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, NEXT YEAR.
AND WHEN YOU GOT A WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR OF, AND ONE THING THAT I'LL MAKE A A COPY OF FOR ALL OF YOU, THE VIRGINIA CODE REQUIRES THAT ANNUALLY I HAVE TO REPORT TO THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR.
THAT'S A PUBLIC NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S REFLECTING.
'CAUSE THE ONE YOU'RE COLLECTING IT FROM GENERALLY, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE 17 OUR CITIZENS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PROGRAM.
IT IS, IT'S, I THINK IT'S PERFORMING EXACTLY HOW WE HOPE.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE SEEING A 90% REDUCTION IN, IN SPEEDING PROBLEMS, I MEAN IT'S STILL 74 A DAY IS KIND OF STILL A BIG NUMBER, BUT A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE WERE SEEING.
SO IT'S A HUGE SORT OF ONES THAT DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS.
DO WHAT? WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY REFUSE TO PAY OR FORGET TO PAY THE COST IS COMMONWEALTH LOCALITIES.
IT'S ABOUT AN 88% PAYMENT RATE AND THEN THERE'S PROCESSES FOR ONE AFTER THE OTHER 12%.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOPE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE, UH, HURRICANE HIT AND WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS THE FIRE CHIEF IS GONNA, THE FIRE CHIEF'S GONNA, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU, MS. DON, WOULD YOU SLIDE THAT OVER HERE PLEASE? THANK YOU.
[3.* Proposed 2025 York County Legislative Priorities: Receive Presentation from Mark L. Bellamy Jr., County Administrator ]
UH, MR. BELLAMY, YOU GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT OUR 2025 LEGISLATIVE PARTY FOR I THAT IS THE PLAN SET UP HERE AND WE'LL DO THAT AS I, AS I SAID, I WOULDN'T GET YOUR HOPES UP ON ANY OF THESE BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT TIME, SHORT TERM THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS.BUT I, I'VE READ THROUGH THEM AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT.
THAT IS MY REACTION TO THE OVERALL PRIORITIES.
SO TRADITIONALLY WE DO THIS ANNUALLY.
WE DID SKIP LAST YEAR AS A, UH, ELECTION YEAR.
WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WOULD CREATE TOO MUCH CHAOS, UH, AT THAT TIME.
SO WE, UH, HAVE BROUGHT THIS BACK AT, AT, UH, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS' REQUEST.
SO THIS IS A COMPILATION OF, UH, ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US IN THE PAST.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS IN HERE.
SO WHAT I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE IS THE COMPILATION OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO US.
SO SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO REMOVE SOMETHING, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.
'CAUSE AT THIS MOMENT IT'S JUST A DRAFT AND YOU HAVEN'T, UH, YOU HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT.
SO, TO START WITH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UH, THIS IS TYPICALLY, UH, HAS BEEN IN HERE IN YEARS PAST.
THOSE OF YOU THAT, UH, PARTICIPATE AT H-R-P-D-C OR HR T OR TPO, UH, SEE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
BOB RUM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION, OFTEN, UH, MAKES AN APPEAL FOR US TO INCLUDE THIS.
HE INCLUDES IT IN THE PC'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY.
THE, THE PDC USED TO RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STATE FUNDING.
MY RECOLLECTION IS THREE, $400,000 A YEAR AND IT'S LESS THAN $200,000 A YEAR NOW THAT THEY GET FROM THE STATE.
SO THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, THE HAMPTON ROADS COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IS FOR THEM TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET BACK TO FUNDING THE PDC IN THE MANNER THAT THEY WERE FUNDING IT BEFORE.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE TRANSPORTATION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, WHAT WE WERE CALLING THE BOAT, WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS TRAIL 7 5 7.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE COULD TO CREATE THAT TRAIL SO THAT IT DOESN'T FALL ON THE LOCALITIES TO DO.
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LIKE TO HAVE THAT DONE WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY.I GUESS IT'S STILL OURS, ISN'T IT?
UH, I, I CHANGED THE WORDING OF IT JUST TO, UH, LOOK LIKE IT WASN'T REALLY GETTING OLD, BUT THIS IS REALLY TO THE STATE POLICE FUND VDOT SO THAT THEY WILL PICK UP TRASH, CUT THE ROADWAYS.
I WOULD SAY I THINK WE'VE SEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
I THINK WE CAN THANK, UH, ROSSI AND THE LOCAL AREA HEADQUARTERS, UH, DOWN THERE FOR THAT.
UH, I DON'T RECALL WHERE THEY'VE EVER DONE DRAINAGE BEFORE.
AND THEY'VE DONE SOME SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE PROJECTS FOR A NUMBER OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS IN THAT AREA, BUT THEY, THEY STILL NEED MORE RESOURCES TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM DO.
THEY SAY, AND THEY, THEY, THEY REALLY DO BECAUSE THEY, MY EXPERIENCE, THAT'S SOME GOOD PEOPLE THERE TRYING TO GET THE JOB DONE, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL EQUIPMENT TO, OR THE, JUST THE PERSONNEL TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND I GOTTA IMAGINE THAT'S SO FRUSTRATING.
'CAUSE THEY WANNA DO THE JOB, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO IT WITH.
SO, WELL, YOU GOTTA GO BACK ABOUT AT LEAST 10 YEARS IF MAYBE NOT MORE.
THE, UH, STATE IN AN EFFORT TO, UH, PROBABLY MAYBE ABOUT 2008 WHEN WE HAD THAT, UH, RATE RECESSION, BUT THE STATE TO SAVE MONEY REDUCED THE STATE'S, UH, BEAT UP WORKFORCE.
THEY, THEY ELIMINATED 2200 POSITIONS, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS A BUNCH.
AND THEN THEY ALSO DID THINGS LIKE THEY QUICK MOWING, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MAKE ONE CUT IN INSTEAD OF GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN AND CUTTING THEIR DITCHES AND MAINTAINING IT.
AND SO I JUST, I TELL YOU THIS, BECAUSE OF THE PERSPECTIVE, KNOWING WHERE THEY ARE TODAY COMPARED TO WHERE THEY, BEFORE THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY WERE DOING STUFF AND THEN THEY JUST SAVED MONEY.
AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT VDO S BUDGET RUNS ABOUT 10 BILLION, MAYBE 11 BILLION A YEAR.
AND THE SAD PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT'S VERY DECEPTIVE OF THAT, UM, 10, $11 BILLION.
THEY TAKE AND CONSIDER THE MONEY THAT IN 2013 WE WERE ALLOWED TO COLLECT LOCALLY OKAY.
AND SPEND IT LOCALLY ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED LOCALLY AS PART OF THEIR BUDGET.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE 10 OR $11 BILLION.
THEY ONLY HAVE ABOUT FIVE OR 6 BILLION FOR THE WHOLE STATE.
AND THAT'S WHY IF YOU TAKE THE TWO MAJOR PASSAGES THROUGH THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, IT'S 81 AND 64, UH, OR NINE FIVE, EXCUSE ME.
WHETHER THE, THE CUL-DE-SAC, US BEING THE CUL-DE-SAC.
SO THEY, UH, THEY SPENT A BILLION, BILLION TWO TO TRY TO WIDEN 81.
AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
WATCH WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT LEAST 11% OF THE STATE'S BUDGET TO BE SPENT OVER HERE.
AND, UM, AND, AND AT TIMES I'VE SEEN 'EM WHERE THEY'VE TRIED NOT TO GIVE US ANY MONEY AT ALL.
'CAUSE THEY SAID, OH, YOU GUYS ARE RAISING ALL THIS MONEY.
WELL, WE'RE RAISING THE MONEY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET THE STATE TO COME IN AND PAY EIGHT SOME $8.9 BILLION FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON A BOOKS.
SO ANYWAY, BUT IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THEIR BUDGET, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY DECEPTIVE.
BUT THE PROBLEM ALSO WITH VDOT IS V DOT'S CHARGED WITH TAKING CARE OF MAINTENANCE FIRST.
THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHAT IS ESTABLISHED FOR, BUT THEY DON'T DO IT.
AND THE WORD HAS ALWAYS BEEN DE HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORD DEVOLUTION? WHAT THEY REALLY WANNA DO IS PASS IT ON DOWN TO LOCALITIES TO PICK UP THE, THE JOBS THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY VDOT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU WANNA STICK B YOU SAID PROVIDE ADEQUATE FUNDING.
I THINK I WOULD SAY, SAY PROVIDE VDOT AT, AT ADEQUATE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
BECAUSE I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR SOME OF THESE BIG ROAD PROJECTS, BUT ESPECIALLY THEY'RE WIDENING THE 64 GOING INTO RICHMOND.
BUT I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU'RE, YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT ON LOCAL RESIDENTS GOING INTO THEIR SECONDARY STREETS AND, AND THEIR SUBDIVISION, THE DITCH DITCHES.
CLEAN OUT THE DITCHES AND STUFF, THEN WELL, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT, THAT ROAD PROJECT GOING INTO, WELL, IT'S, IT'S OUTTA THE MONEY.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR COUNTY IN EACH AREA, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE HAMPTON ROADS AREA.
AND, UH, THERE'LL BE 600 PROJECTS IN THERE OKAY.
THAT WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST TO BE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY.
AND SOMETIMES THEY, WHAT THEY TRY TO DO IS NOT JUST GO DUMP ALL THE MONEY OVER IN VIRGINIA BEACH, WHICH THEIR, THEIR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT.
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SOME OF THE BIG, BIG ROADS ARE JUST UNBELIEVABLE.AND SO, JUST TO GO OUT AND BUILD LITTLE BRIDGES, THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY.
WE, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING THINGS LIKE THE BRIDGE OVER HAMPTON HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, ACROSS HAMPTON HIGHWAY AND HAMPTON.
THOSE LITTLE, THOSE LITTLE PROJECTS, SOME OF THESE OVERPASS PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, UH, ARE JUST PRETTY AMAZING THAT WE'RE EVEN GETTING THAT FUNDING.
UH, BUT WE GOT MAJOR, WE HAD SOME REALLY MAJOR ROAD PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING ARE GETTING WORSE.
UH, DOUG, YOU'RE SEEING THAT ROAD UP THERE BECAUSE OF THE NEW BUILDINGS GOING IN.
WELL, JUST THINK ABOUT THE LEGACY OF POCS.
YOU GO DOWN RIGHT NOW ON VICTORY BOULEVARD AND THE TRAFFIC DURING THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON, WE'LL BE BACKED UP TO MID MIDWAY INTO KILN CREEK.
SO WE'RE FIGHTING FOR ALL THAT.
THERE IS A SOLUTION TO DO THIS.
I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME OUT FROM THE TPO AND IT NEEDS TO COME OUT WHERE IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES US, BECAUSE THE STATE'S, LIKE YOU SAID, THE STATE'S NOT GONNA GIVE US ANY MONEY.
WHERE ONCE AGAIN, WE MIGHT HAVE TO ADD THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT TO SALES TAX HERE.
THAT, TO, TO, UH, BE ABLE TO FUND THE WIDENING OF THE ROADS THAT WE NEED TO.
SO THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON OR LOOKED AT.
BUT IT'S JUST NOT THAT YOU DON'T, DON'T TALK ABOUT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, BIG ROAD IMPROVEMENTS UNLESS YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT REVENUE.
BUT NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE BIG ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
I MEAN, I I, I WOULD SAY UNDER MY TOP FIVE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, SUBMISSIONS FOR HELP THAT I GET WOULD BE VDOT RELATED WORK.
THE, THE ROAD IS COMING APART, PAID ROAD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GOT THESE POTHOLES AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOTHING THAT THE COUNTY CAN DO.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT STAFFED OR WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT FLOOR, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT.
SO I, I REACH OUT TO ROSS AND FOLKS AND, AND THEY ACCOMMODATE AS BEST THEY CAN.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT ALL.
BUT LOOK AT, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ENTRY POINTS TO YOUR COUNTY.
I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW DOWN IN DISTRICT FIVE IN, IN YOUR DISTRICT TOO, SHEILA.
WHERE WE ARE MAINTAINING THE ROAD'S, SHOULDERS, WE CUT IN THE GRASS.
VICTORY BOULEVARD INTO FROM I HAVE TO, I TELL YOU, THE GRASS ON VICTORY B WAS, IT'S HOT ACROSS FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER.
IT'S GOTTA BE THE SAME WAY UP IN DISTRICT ONE.
AND THE OTHER DISTRICTS IS, SO WITH THE ENTRY POINTS THAT WE'RE PICKING UP THAT AT, AT NO COST TO THE STATE, OKAY.
WE'RE BEING BLACKMAILED TO DO IT.
BUT IT'S, IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD UPON THE COUNTY AND IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES COMING IN.
SO IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT THAT, THAT WE DO IT.
BUT WE ARE DOING, BUT, BUT THEN WE, WE CUT MONEY TO PUBLIC WORKS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
LET'S, WE, WE DIGRESS, I'M AFRAID.
SO THIS NEXT ITEM, UH, WILL BE, UH, VERY FAMILIAR TO MANY OF YOU.
UH, RAILROAD CROSSINGS ARE INCREASINGLY BECOMING A PROBLEM.
UH, THE RAILROAD COMPANIES ARE NOT VERY RESPONSIVE TO OUR REQUESTS.
THAT'S BEING KIND, I WOULD SAY NOT RESPONSIVE AT ALL, UH, TO OUR REQUESTS FOR REPAIRS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED ANOTHER AVENUE TO FACILITATE THOSE KINDS OF REPAIRS.
SO DID WE EVER FIX THAT ONE RAILROAD CROSSING THAT YOU GUYS ASKED TO HAVE FIXED? NO.
GUESS WHAT, THAT WAS NO SURPRISE.
BECAUSE THEY GO ON FOR 20 YEARS AND YOU CAN HARP AND FINALLY SOMEBODY WILL GET MOTIVATED.
I DON'T KNOW, WHEEL FALLS OFF A CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'VE GONE ALL THE WAY UP TO DELEGATE GREENS OFFICE FOR, FOR ASSISTANCE AND IT, AND NOT GIVING, THEY'RE NOT GIVING HIM THE TIME OF DAY EITHER.
SO, NO, THEY JUST DO BULLETPROOF.
I THINK IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE RAILROADS PERIOD, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS AT A MEETING THIS WEEK, UH, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE RAILROADS JUST DON'T RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN IT'S NOT JUST US, IT'S ACROSS THE AREA.
FIND A WAY TO TWIST THEIR ARM.
THERE IS NO WAY, UNFORTUNATELY,
THAT'S WHY WE GOTTA GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT FOR US.
SO, UH, UNDER THE AREA OF TECHNOLOGY AND RESILIENCY, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT THE STATE SUPPORT POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ADVANCE FIBER DEPLOYMENT, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR 5G SERVICE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
MR. R CAN YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
SO IF YOU COULD HELP US WITH THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL CONFERENCE.
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AND 5G ARE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.AND, YOU KNOW, HIGH TECH BUSINESSES ARE ALL LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF SERVICE.
THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DEPLOY THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT.
THEY WANT IT ESSENTIALLY SHOVEL READY FOR THEM.
AND THEN THE OFFSHORE WIND PROGRAMS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
UM, WE WANT TO ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WILL BE A BIG GENERATION FOR US, ECONOMICALLY FOR THE ENTIRE REGION, NOT JUST MM-HMM.
FROM A IMPLEMENTATION PERSPECTIVE, HOW, HOW DOES IT, WHAT DOES THAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT COME FROM? FROM JUST THE JOBS AND JUST FROM MANUFACTURING, FROM BUILDING OF THAT.
UM, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, HERE IS TALKING ABOUT FIRE SERVICE, CANCER SCREENING.
WE'D LIKE FOR THE STATE TO TAKE THIS ON.
RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T PROVIDE, UH, ANY OF THAT, THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO IF, IF YOU HAVE A CAREER IN THE FIRE SERVICE, YOU ARE 9% MORE LIKELY TO BE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER THAN THE, THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, THAN 14% MORE LIKELY TO BE A FATALITY TO CANCER THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN LITTLE GOOGLE SEARCH TODAY.
WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAVE STARTED THIS PROCESS.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LOOK OUT FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPOSED TO ALL KINDS OF CANCERS.
UH, MAYBE AFTERWARDS, IF WHAT PROCESS HE SAYS STARTED THE PROCESS, WHAT PROCESS? IT'S A MEDICAL PROCESS.
THEY GET SCREENED THE BLOOD TEST.
UM, WE'RE PAYING FOR IT INSURANCE.
IT IS NOT AN INSURANCE PROGRAM.
UM, I THINK IT COULD BE AN INSURANCE PROGRAM, PREVENTATIVE ME, UH, MEDICINE BEING AN INSURANCE PROGRAM.
JUST NOT, NOT, NOT MEDICAL INSURANCE.
UH, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SEE IF THE STATE WOULDN'T CONSIDER ADDING DISPATCHERS WHO ARE PART OF THE THREE-LEGGED STOOL OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
NOW, I DO WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE VERY FEW ITEMS IN HERE THAT WOULD HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT TO US BECAUSE THE MULTIPLIER IS HIGHER FOR THEIR RETIREMENT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY A PORTION OF THAT.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS SOME MONEY FROM US.
MOST OF THESE OTHER THINGS ARE ASKING FOR MONEY FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
UH, BUT THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD NOT BE OKAY.
SO I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
NO, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT, THAT WE LEARNED THE HARD WAY.
UM, AND I WANTED TO POINT THIS FOR, FOR, FOR THE NEW SUPERVISORS THAT YOU GOTTA UNDER REALIZE THIS, WHEN THE STATE COMES IN, AND THEY DID THIS WHEN MAC MCREYNOLDS WAS OUR, UH, ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY MANDATED THAT WE PAY A 5% INCREASE ON SALARIES, THEY MANDATED THAT WE HAD TO DO THAT.
UM, AND IT WAS A GROSSLY INEFFICIENT WAY OF, OF GIVING MONEY TO THE EMPLOYEES BY MANDATING, UH, THE PAY INCREASE.
AND BECAUSE WHAT IT DID FOR US IS THAT IT, THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS WHAT WE FUND.
AND SO WHEN YOU INCREASE THE 5% FOR EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF, YOU'VE JUST INCREASED OUR LONG TERM, UH, REQUIREMENTS TO FUND US.
WE COULD HAVE JUST, IT WOULD'VE BEEN CHEAPER FOR US JUST TO GIVE 'EM MONEY THAN, THAN TO, TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
BUT THE GENIUSES IN THE STATE CAME UP WITH THIS GREAT IDEA AND IT, IT WAS JUST GROSSLY INEFFICIENT.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT TO YOU.
THE LAST ITEM HERE IS, UM, IN THE LAST YEAR, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR, I WISH THE SHERIFF WAS STILL HERE.
HE, HE'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, THE STATE POLICE HAS STOPPED RESPONDING TO ACCIDENTS IN YORK COUNTY.
WE DID NOT HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY PREVIOUSLY.
WE DIDN'T, UH, THEY WOULD RESPOND, UH, AND DO REPORTS IF NO, UH, STATE POLICE WERE AVAILABLE.
UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE DIDN'T HANDLE THAT.
BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IT NOW.
SO THERE, THERE'S A DIRECT COST TO US TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, UH, TO THE MOTORING PUBLIC.
AND SO WHAT THE SHERIFF AND OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE STATE COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO REIMBURSE US FOR PROVIDING THAT
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SERVICE.AND NOW UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE DOING IT, WHY WOULD, BECAUSE DANNY, DANNY ABSOLUTELY REFUSED TO DO IT.
AND I ASKED RON ABOUT
BUT THE QUESTION IS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DO IT BECAUSE THE STATE TROOPERS CAN'T GET ENOUGH STATE TROOPERS YEAH.
AND THEN SO AN WE, THESE THINGS WOULD GO UNANSWERED IF WE DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT.
I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF ABOUT IT, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE, THE STATE POLICE HAS WALKED AWAY FROM THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THAT PUTS IT ON US TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND THEY'VE HAD TO RESPOND TO HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ISSUES ANNUALLY BECAUSE OF IT.
I MEAN, AND YOU DON'T JUST DO THAT ORGANICALLY.
THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE, SO IF WE HAVE TO DO IT, THEN, ALRIGHT.
THE FUNDING THAT YOU WERE PROVIDING STATE POLICE, ESPECIALLY IF THE ISSUE IS THEY CAN'T GET TROOPERS.
IF YOU CAN'T GET TROOPERS, THEN GIVE, GIVE US THE MONEY THAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR THE TROOPER OVER HERE SO WE CAN HIRE DEPUTIES TO DO THAT FEDERAL WORK.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS, UH, D-A-D-E-A-A EDICT THAT, UH, THE CHIEF, UH, HAD THROWN AT HIM FOR HANDLING THE PHARMACEUTICALS.
IT'S, IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
IT'S ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE BOOK? I DON'T NEED THE BOOK, BUT IT BELONGS IN THE SAME LINE.
IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE WE'VE HAD WORK OR, OR REQUIREMENTS THROWN AT US WITHOUT, WITHOUT FUNDING.
UM, AND IT'S COSTING US PEOPLE.
IT'S COSTING US, UH, CLEARLY, UH, BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES.
IT'S, UM, THIS, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THIS NEW SLIDE UNDER THE FINANCE CATEGORY REFORM, THE COMMONWEALTHS CAMP COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDING.
SO A LOT OF THE, UM, A LOT OF SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE COMP BOARD.
UH, A LOT OF THE OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND THE SUPPORT PERSONNEL THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT ARE FINANCED OR THE PAID FOR THROUGH THE COMPENSATION BOARD.
HOWEVER, THEY DON'T PAY THE FULL COST OF THEM.
A YEAR BEFORE LAST, UH, OUR PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR, UH, MR. MORGAN WROTE A NICE MEMO THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE BEING SHORTED AND WHAT COSTS WE'RE ACTUALLY PICKING UP TO REMAIN, UH, MARKET COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE SALARIES FOR THOSE POSITIONS THAT THE STATE DOES PARTIALLY FUND.
WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL HERE, UH, MARK, BECAUSE PAST SHERIFF, NOW, SENATOR DIGGS, YOU KNOW, HE'D GOTTEN THIS QUESTION FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
WHAT? WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING? WHY ARE WE 50% OF OUR DEPUTIES ARE PAID FOR BY US? ROUGHLY.
I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT NOW.
BUT THE POINT, THE POINT IN HERE IS DANNY'S WAS POSITION AND FINALLY GOT TO, HE SAYS, LOOK, THIS IS ALL, THE STATE HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS, IT'S GONNA GIVE A COUNTY OF YOUR SIZE.
OUR CITIZENS REQUIRED, THEY REQUIRE GREATER SECURITY THAN WHAT THE STATE HAS DETERMINED.
THAT THAT WAS ALL THEY WERE GONNA GIVE US.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP, BASED UPON OUR SHERIFF COMING IN, COMING IN AND TALKING TO US.
THAT'S WHY WE GIVE 'EM, THAT'S WHY WE PAY THE EXTRA 50%.
OF THE PEOPLE, THE STATE, THE STATE ONLY PAY.
BUT ANYWAY, IT, IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
WE DO NOT, WE, WE DECLARE IT NOT NOT SUFFICIENT IN OUR COUNTY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS.
AND THE, AND THE MODEL BASED UPON THE SIZE OF THE COUNTY IS, IS INCORRECT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT DRIVE THE NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES HERE.
THE TRAFFIC THAT WE GET, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE A THOROUGHFARE 17 IN OF THE ROADS OF PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH IT, UM, UH, PROXIMITY OF OUR NEIGHBOR IS THE SHAPE OF OUR COUNTY.
IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE SIZE OF OUR COUNTY THAT DICTATES THE TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE QUANTITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WE NEED.
SO THE STATE NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A BETTER ALGORITHM TO DETERMINE THAT.
BUT BASICALLY THE ANSWER IS THAT'S, THEY SAY THE STATE SAYS THIS IS ALL YOU'RE GONNA GET.
I MEAN, IS THIS, WHATEVER COMP COMPUTATION YOU HAVE, THIS IS ALL YOU'RE GONNA GET.
AND IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S A GAME.
YOU PLAY WITH CHASING THE NUMBERS, THE RATIONALE.
I MEAN, I, I'VE, I'VE SEEN THIS SO MANY TIMES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST, I IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THERESA, WILL YOU CONFIRM FOR ME, I I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, AFTER THAT APPEARED THE FIRST TIME WE GOT 5% EXTRA FROM THE STATE.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, A LITTLE MORE MONEY, UM, LAST YEAR FROM THE STATE.
BUT YEAH, IT WASN'T A LOT, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE DIDN'T EXPECT THEM TO GO THE WHOLE WAY, YOU KNOW, BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS.
SO SOME POSITION WE DID THAT THEY HADN'T FUNDED IN THE PAST.
BUT NOW, SO HOW MANY DEPUTIES DID WE JUST ADD TO THE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT? UH, IF CORRECT.
YEAH, WE JUST ADDED EIGHT, FOUR NOW.
AND, AND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING PAID.
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THOSE YOU GET THE GRANTS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU END UP OWNING 'EM.BUT THE POINT IS THAT THIS IS WHAT THE STATE SAYS YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR.
IF YOU WANT MORE, YOU'RE GONNA COUGH UP THE MONEY FOR 'EM.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT TOPIC? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON, UH, TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO THE STATE OPERATES A WEBSITE, A PROCUREMENT WEBSITE.
UH, WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS, UH, BASED ON A REQUEST FROM THE VIRGINIA IT DIRECTORS.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ACRONYM STANDS OUT, BUT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TIM'S WORKING ON.
UM, VAL GUIDE'S, UM, LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES INCLUDED THIS, I DID TALK TO TREVOR WEBB ABOUT THIS, AND HE IS, UM, DELEGATE GREENS, UH, LEGISLATIVE AID.
HE, HE THOUGHT THIS WAS WOR IT'S, IT'S NOT A BILL, BUT HE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTHY OF RECOGNIZING BECAUSE WHAT THEY CAN DO IS WRITE A LETTER FROM OUR DELEGATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES AT THE STATE AND ASK FOR AN UPDATE OF THAT WEBSITE.
HE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, REASONABLY WELL RECEIVED.
SO THEY, THEY WERE WILLING TO DO THAT.
SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT? UH, AGAIN, UNDER FINANCE, WE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD GAINED THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE ON CIGARETTES.
UH, WHICH HAS HAD SOME IMPACT ON OUR, UH, PHYSICAL POSITION.
SO I KNOW THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF ALL THE VAPE SHOPS THAT MM-HMM.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, CORRECT.
SO WE HAVE ASKED FOR THAT AS WELL.
I'M ASSUMING THE STATE GETS A, GETS A PLUG FROM FROM THE SALE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STATE DO ANYTHING.
THEY DIDN'T, YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT GOES TO COUNTIES CALL.
UM, AND WE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LATELY TALKING ABOUT HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
I, I, I WANTED TO, UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
AND SO THE LIKE, I LIKE THAT ONE.
NO, I'M NOT, I I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
I MEAN, A FLAT TAX WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF SUBMITTING BUSINESS ASSET INVENTORY.
WHY DON'T YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THAT ONE? ALRIGHT, SO THIS, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I ASKED MR. BELLAMY TO ADD IN HERE.
AND I SPOKE TO, UM, I STEPPED ON SOMEONE'S TOES.
IN FACT, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
UM, I ALSO SPOKE WITH, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, OUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE, SARAH WEBB ON IT AS WELL.
I, I KNOW THERE IS A BIG DISSATISFIER AND A BIG POINT OF STRESS FOR SOME OF OUR HOME-BASED BUSINESS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WHEN THEY HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND ACCOUNT FOR THEIR INVENTORY OR THEIR BUSINESS, UM, ACCESSORIES, AND IT IS NOT LIKE A, A, A REGULAR BRICK AND MORTAR STORE WHERE IT'S KIND OF OBVIOUS THAT THAT LATHE IS PART OF YOUR MACHINERY AND, AND OR IN THAT CASH RESTAURANT AND SO FORTH.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU BRING YOUR LAPTOP THAT YOU WATCH YOUR NETFLIX ON DOWN TO DO A SPREADSHEET, NOW IS, NOW IS THIS SUDDENLY A, A BUSINESS THING THAT YOU GOTTA ACCOUNT FOR? IF THE, IF YOU SIT DOWN AT YOUR, AT YOUR KITCHEN TABLE IN YOUR CHAIR, DO YOU NOT HAVE TO COUNT IN YOUR CHAIR? SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG STRESSOR.
AND, AND I HAVE ALSO, RIGHT, I ALSO HAVE FRIENDS THAT, UH, HAVE, HAVE A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE THAT, THAT OWNS A GYM AND NOT IN YORK COUNTY, BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT STILL THE SAME THING APPLIES.
HE'S GOT A COUNT FOR EVERY PLATE, EVERY BARBELL, EVERY DUMBBELL, EVERY STRETCHY THING.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SUCH A, THAT'S SUCH A BIG WASTE OF TIME FOR HIM.
SO MY THOUGHT IS, AND, AND, AND YOU HAVE TO PUT THRESHOLDS, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU GENERATE AND GIVE A YEAR.
BUT WHATEVER THE RIGHT FORMULA IS, GIVE PEOPLE THE OP OPTION TO SAY, I'D RATHER JUST PAY A FLAT TAX, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, AND NOT HAVE TO SPEND MY TIME DOING INVENTORY AND WORRYING ABOUT CAPTURING THE RIGHT THING.
EVEN IF THAT TAX IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT I WOULD PAY IF I DID THE INVENTORY.
IT TIME IS, MY TIME IS BETTER TO SPEND JUST WRITING THAT CHECK.
OR IF THEY WANT TO LET THEM STILL FOLLOW THE INVENTORY PROCESS.
BUT I WANT, I WANNA GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS.
AND RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T BECAUSE STATE CODE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS.
AND I WANT THE CODE TO CHANGE, TO GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS.
AND THEN, THEN, THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING ALSO IS THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE IS DEALING WITH TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF TAXATION ALSO.
SO IT'S EASIER, I, I SUPPOSE FOR HER OR HIM, WHOEVER IT IS, THE ONE TO HANDLE IT THAN IT IS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S MAKING A LIVING OR MAKING
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MONEY ON WHAT HE'S DOING AT HOME.AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT, THAT'S HIS CHOICE.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER ON THAT PERSON TO, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THEIR, THEIR TAXES FOR THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION OVER WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MYSELF PHONE IS TAXABLE.
YOU START GOING THROUGH ALL THE CALLS, YOU'RE MAKING WASTE OF TIME TRYING TO SORT OUT WHICH IS PERSONAL, WHICH ONE ISN'T.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A LARGE WASTE OF TIME.
AND THEN JUST PEOPLE GO, WHAT? I'M NOT GONNA WORRIED ABOUT IT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS HERE OR, AND THEN WE CAN OKAY.
UH, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE UNDER EDUCATION.
I'M GONNA TOUCH ON BOTH OF THESE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO YOU, YOU ALL, I'LL, I'LL BE PRESENTING THE CIP, THE RECOMMENDED CIP TO YOU ON DECEMBER 3RD.
AS YOU KNOW, WE SPEND THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR CIP ON SCHOOL PROJECTS.
UH, SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE STATE TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME ON ASSISTANCE GRANTS.
SO WE, WE THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THE OTHER THING IS CERTAINLY WE WANNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF OUR TEACHERS.
SO WE'RE ALSO ASKING THEM TO INCREASE THE COMPENSATION FOR K 12 TEACHERS.
I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
CONTINUING EDUCATION, UH, FUNDING FOR SUMMER SCHOOL AND ACADEMY PROGRAMS. AND THEN ALSO TO AVOID FUNDING FORMULAS FOR OPERATING OR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT PENALIZE LOCALITIES THAT SUPPORT SCHOOL SYSTEMS AT A HIGHER LEVEL.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A FUNDING INDEX INDEX THAT SAYS A COMMUNITY OF YOUR WEALTH CAN PROVIDE THIS MUCH MONEY.
AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO, OH, SO WE HAVE TO KICK IN EXTRA TO GET IT TO THE LEVEL THAT WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE AT.
THEREA DID I FAIRLY DESCRIBED THAT IT'S A COMPOSITE INDEX.
COMPOSITE'S A COMPOSITE INDEX.
AREN'T THEY NOT LOOKING AT THE CHANGING THE COMPOSITE INDEX.
I THINK OURS ACTUALLY WENT DOWN, WHICH MEANT WE GOT MORE MONEY.
OURS WENT UP, WHICH UP? SO WE GOT LESS MONEY.
SO WE GOT A LITTLE BIT, THAT WAS LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PRETTY STANDARD ASKS.
I I THINK WE LOOK FOR THIS MOST YEARS.
THAT, THAT'S NOTHING REALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM, UM, I BELIEVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO, UM, MAKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS ON SOME SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUES.
AND SO BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ADDRESS THOSE, UH, ONE OF 'EM SPECIFICALLY ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE? NO.
FURTHER REQUEST OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
RESPECT AND PRESERVE LOCAL AUTHORITY.
THERE IS A BILL THAT'S OUT, OUT ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I'VE SAID NO, AND I'VE SENT MY FEEDBACK IN AS WELL.
THIS IS ANOTHER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
BUT NEWSPAPERS HAVE A GREAT LOBBY.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO ALLOW US TO PUBLISH REQUIRED ADS ON PLACES OTHER THAN THE NEWSPAPERS.
UM, BECAUSE WE DO SPEND, UH, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR, FOR PRINT ADS.
SO THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN A WORLD OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE, UM, TO ME ANYWAY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A NO BRAINER.
WE SPEND INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY BASED UPON THE VALUE THAT IS RECEIVED OUT OF IT.
WHO, WHO KNOWS ANYBODY THAT GOES TO THE NEWSPAPER TO SEE WHAT THE AGENDA IS FOR TONIGHT? OH, I SEE THE ADS.
I SEE THE ADS IN THE NEWSPAPER, BUT I ALSO SEE FULL PAGE ADS AND THE NEWSPAPER'S MORE FILLED WITH ADS AND IT'S FILLED WITH NEWS.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M, WHAT'S WHAT, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
WHAT I QUESTION IS HOW, HOW I GET HOW THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, HOW THE AVERAGE, AVERAGE CITIZEN AFFORD DAILY THE DAILY PRESS NEWSPAPER.
I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S JUST OVER 2000 A YEAR FOR A SUBSCRIPTION OF THE DAILY PRESS.
HEY, I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS THE OTHER DAY WITH IT.
AND MINE'S NOW, MINE'S $2,080 A YEAR.
IT WAS LESS THAN $200 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
NO, YOU ELECTRONICALLY, YOU GET IT ELECTRONICALLY.
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I MEAN, NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S $40 A MONTH IS WHAT IT IS ELECTRONICALLY RIGHT NOW IS MUCH ELECTRONICALLY.AND I'VE TALKED TO, I'VE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING, AMEN.
MY WHAT DO, ARE THEY, ARE THEY COMING AND READING IT TO YOU OR WHAT? GOD, I
WELL, I'M IN A PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHETHER I REALLY WANTED, WANT TO GET THE SUBSCRIPTION OR NOT.
AND UH, WHEN I CALLED THEM YESTERDAY, IT'S THE TRIBUNE, UH, WHAT IS IT? THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE OR WHATEVER, THE ONE THAT OWNS THE COMPANY.
AND I TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT IT AND I SAID, WHY, WHY AM I PAYING SO MUCH FOR THIS? 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THE, UH, NEW NEW YORK TIMES IS THAT EXPENSIVE.
AND, UM, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL SKI WELL, GENERAL, IT'S, IT'S CRAZY.
AND SO I GUESS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, WELL YEAH, IF YOU WANT A SPECIAL, IF YOU WANT A SPECIAL EDITION, YOU COULD ADD ANOTHER $13, UH, A QUARTER TO IT.
I'M LIKE, OKAY, THEY'RE RIPPING YOU OFF NOW.
SO NOW WE'RE TO THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO REMOVE A LANGUAGE.
UH, RICHARD IS THIS, YOU SAY, I'M HOPING YOU DID.
I THINK THAT'S FROM, I DO NOT BELIEVE I DID.
NO, THAT'S FROM KRISTEN NELSON.
DURING THE RECESSION, THEY CHANGED, IT WAS DURING THE RECESSION.
THEY WERE PAYING US TWO THIRDS AND WE WERE PAYING ONE VOTE.
THE SESSION HIT, THEY REVERSED IT.
BUT THAT WAS IN 2008 AND THEY'VE NEVER REVERSED IT BACK.
COULD NOT REMEMBER WHAT THE ISSUE WAS THERE.
WHAT, WHAT IS THIS EXCESS CLERK'S FEE? THAT PIECE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE EXCESS FEES ARE THAT THEY COLLECT, BUT THE STATES TAKING A THIRD MORE THAN THEY USED TO BEFORE THE RECESSION.
WE WOULD LIKE THAT THIRD BACK.
AND THIS IS THE USUAL STATEMENT WE END WITH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, NO UNFUNDED MANDATES, PLEASE.
AND OUR DOCUMENT ENDS WITH OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, WHICH WE TIED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO WE DID, UH, THROUGH SOME GOOD WORK OF, UH, HEATHER, WE DID MANAGE TO GET ALL OF THAT ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER
SO FRONT AND BACK IS ONE PIECE OF PAPER.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT YOU WANT REMOVED? OR WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO STAY AS IS? BECAUSE WHAT OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE WOULD BE TO SHARE IT WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION.
I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF, UH, SUGGESTIONS.
FOR INSTANCE, ADDING VDOT ON THE WOODLOCK.
UH, WE DID, I I THINK HEATHER NOTED THAT.
AND, AND REQUESTING THE STATE, UM, FUNDING FOR THE, UH, ANSWER SCREENING.
THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING THIS IS THAT THIS IS THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURES AND THE REGIONAL BEHAVIOR, AND AS I SAID, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T EVEN MOVE ON IT UNLESS IT'S IN THE, IN A PACKAGE LIKE THIS.
THE STATED, THIS IS VERY AMBITIOUS AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD AND COMPREHENSIVE, BUT THIS IS A SHORT, YOU'D ADD ABOUT 20 MORE SESSION THINGS ON THERE.
IT USED TO BE WE HAD TOO MANY, WHAT? YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE TOO MANY THINGS ON HERE.
AND THEN WE KIND OF TONED IT DOWN TO BY 10 AND THEN WE KIND OF GROWN BACK UP AGAIN.
WELL, MY GOAL REALLY WAS TO GET IT ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER.
SO IF YOU MEET WITH, I KNOW, I KNOW MRS. NOEL GOES TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
SHE MEETS WITH SOME OF THOSE DELEGATES.
SHE CAN HAND THEM ONE PIECE OF PAPER, ONE FEE, BUT SHE NOT, NOT ONE PIECE.
YOU WANT TO ADD IN SOMETHING TO REFLECT THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE OF THE HIGHWAY SAFETY TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL DISTANCES.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, WE CERTAINLY COULD GET THAT DONE.
I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID WHEN THE SHERIFF WAS SPEAKING.
HE WAS MENTIONING THAT IT WOULD BE A, MIGHT BE A WORTHWHILE AMENDMENT TO THE CODE TO EXPAND THE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN PUT THE SPEED CAMERAS OKAY.
TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL AREAS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN TRAFFIC FATALITIES.
IT WAS, IT WAS BASICALLY TO REMOVE THE, AND SCHOOLS THE THOUSAND THOUSAND REQUIREMENT.
SO IF I CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THIS, I KNOW THE SHEET OF PAPER THAT MARK SAID IS VERY GOOD.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS EACH OF US HAS TAKEN A DELEGATE OR A SENATOR IN OUR DISTRICT THAT
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REPRESENTS YOUR COUNTY AND GONE AND MET WITH THEIR, MET WITH THEM IN THEIR OFFICE AND DISCUSS IT IN INDIVIDUALLY.SO WASTE, THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SET UP.
SO, BUT YOUR CHAIR, SO YOU CAN, IT IS SEE IF WASTE, WHAT YOU'D WASTE TO DO OR NOT.
WELL, I THINK ANY OF US CAN SCHEDULE THAT TIME.
WE, WE HAVE THE LUXURY HERE, BUT, BUT NO, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S COVERED AND WHO'S TAKING WHICH ONE.
I MEAN, SHEILA, MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT HAS BEEN A CLO BEEN A COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME.
I'VE DONE THIS, I'VE DONE IT TOO.
IN FACT, IT WAS OUR LEGISLATIVE, THEY HAVE TO BE A JOKE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GO UP, YOU GO UP TO RICHMOND AND YOU SEE THE OTHERS COUNTIES MEETING WITH THEM, AND I COULD SEE A MEETING WITH THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I THINK THIS, I THINK A PIECE OF PAPER PROBABLY IF WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS, THEY COME.
BUT I JUST, I FOUND IT'D BE A COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME TO DO THAT.
WELL, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
DO, DO YOU HAVE, UH, HOW DOES THIS COM, DO YOU KNOW HOW THIS COMPARES TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS? OR ARE THERE SIMILAR THEMES? BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO SAY THIS, BUT IF FIVE AND EBRA, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME OF THE SAME BULLET POINTS THAT KIND OF ADDS MASS TO IT.
SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT IN YEARS PAST, UH, VICKI DIGGS IN OUR OFFICE HAS COLLECTED ALL THE ONES ON THE PENINSULA FOR ME, SO THAT I CAN GO THROUGH AND MINE THEM.
AND THE THINGS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO US, WE, WE TRY TO PUT IN SO THAT IT DOES APPEAR THAT THERE'S UNIVERSAL SUPPORT.
SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL OF ALL THE PEOPLE
SO THAT IT, IT DOES REFLECT THE WISHES OF THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE IT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TOO TO KIND OF MAYBE HIGHLIGHT THAT, HEY, THIS IS A COMMON ASK.
BECAUSE DON'T, DON'T RELY ON THEIR LEGISLATORS TO NOTICE THAT.
TELL 'EM THAT, HEY, ACROSS JAMES CITY COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG.
AND, AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS, IS THAT THIS IS DONE ON SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF TIMELINES.
I I MEAN WE, WE HAD BEEN DOING THIS AS EARLY AS JULY AND AUGUST, AND SO NOW IT'S OCTOBER.
UM, SO WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE A LITTLE LATE.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TOO LATE, BUT IT'S, IT'S LATE FOR WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.
SO SHEILA, THE PDC USED TO COLLECT, OR WOULD ONE COME UP WITH A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY WOULD WANT US TO ALL INCLUDE? YES.
AND THEN, UH, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN, I, I HAD 'EM, I SAID, MAKE SURE WE PUT 'EM ALL IN AND, AND TRY TO THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY'D GET A COMMON LIST BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT A HUGE PILE OF MUNICIPAL, 17 MUNICIPALITIES.
THEY'RE BASICALLY ALL ASKING FOR THE SAME THING AND YOU'RE GONNA MORE LIKELY GET A, WHICH ESSENTIALLY DOES WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ING.
AND THERE'S ALSO PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS IN VARIOUS GROUPS THAT ALL MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR ROAD MONEY.
SO THERE'S A QUESTION ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS, SHOULD WE MODIFY THIS TO INCLUDE THAT HAZARDOUS ZONE, UH, ITEM THAT THE SHERIFF BROUGHT UP TO ELIMINATE THE SCHOOL? I WOULD OFFER MY RECOMMENDATION.
I WOULD OFFER TO THE SHERIFF TO DO THAT IF HE WANTS IT.
AND YOU'VE GONE TO ALL THESE, ALL THESE AGENCIES THAT HAD WITHIN THE COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS TO GET THEIR INPUT.
SO IF HE DIDN'T BRING IT UP AND YES.
I MEAN, IF HE WANTS TO DO IT, I WOULD SAY WE WOULD SUPPORT IT.
BUT RICHARD HELPS WITH THIS PROCESS.
WE KIND OF COLLABORATE ON THIS.
SO HE USUALLY SENDS OUT THE EMAILS TO THE DIRECTORS, ET CETERA FOR THAT INPUT.
AND THEN WE KIND OF COALESCE THE WHOLE THING AND HE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU SEE STATE CODE, THAT WAS HIM.
YEAH, I CAN TELL WHICH ONES RICHARD DID.
SO, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELP ON THIS.
SO DO YOU HAVE LIKE IN HAND THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THERE, LEGISLATIVE PACKAGES? I DO NOT.
UM, I MEAN, I HAVE THE PDC ONE.
I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME HERE TONIGHT.
WELL, I'M JUST, I THINK THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH RIGHT NOW.
WELL, AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO LIKE, MAKE, MAKE, MAKE CHANGE TO IT.
OTHER THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I, AND I CAN DO THIS AS AS WELL, BUT YOU MAY, YOU MAY EVEN HAVE IT EASIER.
GUESS IM GONNA SAY, WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH IT GO GO AROUND TO THE 17 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
TAKE IT, SHOVE IT ALL IN CHAT, GPT AND SAY, TELL ME, TELL ME WHERE WE HAVE SIMILARITIES AT.
WELL LET IT DO ALL THE WORKFORCE.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE OTHERS, I MEAN, YOU TAKE HAMPTON FOR EXAMPLE, THEY, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN WHAT WHAT YOU'LL SEE ASKED FOR THERE.
CITY COUNTY DIFFERENCES IS SIGNIFICANT.
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THERE FOUR COUNTIES? I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT.SO THEY, THE COUNTIES ARE GONNA BE WAY DIFFERENT THAN THE CITIES.
SO IF THERE, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ONLINE AND LOOK AT 'EM.
THEY'RE ALL, THEY, THEY, THEY POST 'EM ALL ONLINE.
EVERY ONE OF THESE REGIONAL, THEY, THEY'RE ALL ONLINE.
SO COPY AND PASTE FORCE DEVELOPMENT HAS ONE.
AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO BUILD MASS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT JUST US.
SO I THINK YOU, YOU GOT FEEDBACK.
AND I'LL TALK TO THE SHERIFF AND WE'LL, YEAH.
MAKE, MAKE SURE WE DON'T NOT FORGET ABOUT HIM.
AND THEN I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.
AND, AND THEN WE JUST HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE BUILD UPON YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND THEN WE JUST LOOK, LOOK AT THIS AND GO, WELL, THAT GOT DONE OR THAT DIDN'T GET DONE.
AND, AND BUILD UPON IT FROM THERE.
SO A A AFTER MY CONVERSATION WITH, UM, TURBOWEB, HE FELT LIKE THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE IN HERE ALREADY THAT THEY COULD GO FORWARD WITH.
SO HE WAS, UM, I, I DID HAVE SOME, SOME HELP OUTSIDE.
SO HE WAS VERY, VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE WORK STAFF DID PUT THAT TOGETHER.
I, I SORT OF LIKE WHAT SHEILA'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOCKE SOMETIMES ASK, I ALWAYS GO TO SEE NAME.
SHE, SHE WILL ASK FOR, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE HER A LIST AND SHE SAID, WELL, I CAN CARRY THIS OR I'LL CARRY THAT.
BUT IN THE SAME WAY WITH DANNY, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO, YOU GO TO THE, UH, THE SENATORS AND JUST SAY THAT AND, AND THEY DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO GO AND SPEND TIME.
I DON'T, SHEILA MIGHT WANNA DO IT, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA WASTE MY TIME DOING THAT.
WELL, TALKING ABOUT MAMIE LUCK, IT WAS GOING TO MAMIE AND TALKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY THAT WE GOT INCREASE MONEY FOR THE STATE LIBRARY TO COME DOWN TO THE LIBRARIES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT I THINK.
I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MORE WE GOT, BUT WE GOT MORE MONEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU HAD LISTED OR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
WERE YOU GONNA SPEAK TO YEAR TO DATE OR ACCOMPLISHMENT? UM, I WAS, I CAN, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION YOU WANTED ME TO DO THAT DURING THE COMMENTS SECTION, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY DO IT NOW IF YOU LIKE.
I'LL JUST, YOUR, YOUR CALL GO.
SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S COVER IT.
SO, UH, WHAT MR. ROW ASKED ME TO DO WAS LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND COME UP WITH, UM, A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.
AND WE NEED TO CELEBRATE OUR SUCCESSES.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK EACH, UH, PRIORITY AND THEIR, UM, THERE'S SIX AND I PUT ONE SLIDE TOGETHER.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY TO START WITH.
SO I, I TOOK OUT THE FLUFFY WORDS TO, TO KEEP THE WORDS DOWN ON THE, ON THE SLIDES.
SO IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM, CERTAINLY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL AWARE AND VERY PROUD OF, UH, THE NEW SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT OPENED THIS YEAR.
THAT IS CERTAINLY AN EXAMPLE OF EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SAFETY.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE BOARD HAS, UH, AUTHORIZED THE ORDERING OF TWO.
UH, I I THINK THEY'RE PUMPERS AS I RECALL.
UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, WE ONLY GOT ONE, TWO, WE GOT TWO, TWO, NOT TWO.
UM, AND ONE WAS PUSHED TO, TO THE NEXT YEAR, SO TO THREE.
UM, AND WE'VE DONE SOME, YOU KNOW, NICE THINGS IN THE, UM, IN THE 9 1 1 ARENA BECAUSE WE HAD THE CONSOLIDATION OF JAMES CITY.
SO IT DID REQUIRE SOME FACILITY UPGRADES.
SO WE'VE GONE IN THERE, UH, AND MADE LIFE A LITTLE BETTER FOR A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
SO, UH, WE, WE CAN BE REAL, REAL PROUD OF THAT.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT HERE THAT I, I DO WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, UH, BASED ON, UH, A REQUEST OF ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, CHRISTIE OLSON AND HER STAFF DEVELOPED A DISASTER PREPARED PA PREPAREDNESS PAGE FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UH, AND THAT PAGE IS INCLUDED ON THE YES.
AND THEN ALSO, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, UH, GENERATORS, UH, WE HAVE INSTALLED GENERATORS AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, GENERATORS WILL BE, UH, TO STEAL BERKELEY'S GROUP TOWARDS A COMMON THEME.
SO GENERATORS ALSO, WE HAVE RECENTLY INSTALLED GENERATORS, UH, AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL, UH, TO TURN THAT INTO A SHELTER.
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SO VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT, THE CONSOLIDATION WORK THAT'S HAPPENED IN 9 1 1 SECOND.I THINK THAT FLIES ON, ON THE RADAR.
THE IMPACT FLIES UNDER THE RADAR.
MR. DAH, CAN YOU REMIND US HOW MANY LOCALITIES THAT, THAT YOU PROVIDE? 9 1 1 SERVICES COMMUNICATIONS FOR NOW? UH, YES.
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF V DM CAN OVERRIDE MY SILENT BUDGET
UM, SO WE ARE YORK PCOS AND WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UH, SO IT'S FAIRLY LARGE, BUT WE ALSO PROVIDE BACKUP SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF HAMPTON FOR A FEE.
AND GLOUCESTER COUNTY AS WELL.
SO ANYBODY TRAVELING IN THOSE LOCALITIES, IF YOU HAVE TO CALL IN AN EMERGENCY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AM AM, AM I, AM I IN J CINDY COUNTY? AM I IN YOUR COUNTY? WHERE, WHERE AM I? YOU CALL IN, IT GOES THROUGH YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CENTER AND YOUR CENTER HANDLES ALL THAT.
THEY DISPATCH THE CLOSEST EMERGENCY VEHICLE RESPONSE TEAM REGARDLESS OF THE LOCALITY, BECAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE THAT VISIBILITY.
AND I, I THINK, I THINK THE IMPACT OF THAT REALLY FLIES ON THE RADAR FORM.
AND WE CAN ALSO SEND THE CLOSEST UNIT FIRE AND EMS, UH, FOR YEARS HAVE HAD A VERY ROBUST MUTUAL AID HAVING IT UNDER ONE CENTER.
NOW, UH, WE ARE SHAVING MINUTES OFF OF CALLS WHERE YOU CAN SIT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHO THE NEXT PIECE OF APPARATUS IS SENT.
AND NOW WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO IT'S WORKING OUT EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.
SO, CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR TEAM PULLING ALL THAT TOGETHER.
BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S A BIG PAYOFF, SO THANKS.
UH, THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT STRATEGIC PRIORITY IS EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS AND THEIR CIP ITEMS, LION'S SHARE OF IT, UH, IS FUNDED BY US.
AND THIS IS, UH, SOME PHOTOS THAT, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT SUPPLIED FOR US, UH, THE SEAFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RENOVATION.
I MEAN, IT, IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS FACILITY.
THEY'VE GOT OUTDOOR CLASSROOM SPACE NOW THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY TERRIFIC THINGS HERE FOR THE CHILDREN AT THAT SCHOOL TO ENJOY.
AND ALSO THE, THAT NEW PLAYGROUND AT, UH, DARE ELEMENTARY, THAT, UM, ACCESSIBLE.
YOU JUST WENT TO THE OPENING OF THAT.
THAT'S, UH, JUST, JUST FOR THINKING FACILITY.
SO TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE OTHERWISE PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO, YOU KNOW, YOUNG KIDS BEING ABLE TO ENJOY AND THEY, THEY, THEY CAN USE THAT FACILITY NOW, SO THAT'S GOOD.
SO, AND THEN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WORTHY OF NOTE PUBLIC WORKS HAS DONE SOME WORK FOR THE SCHOOLS.
WE DO TAKE CARE OF THEIR TENNIS COURTS, WHICH THEY USE FOR THEIR PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM.
AND THEN THEY ALSO DOUBLE AS COMMUNITY PLACES TO PLAY TENNIS.
AND MOST OF THOSE COURTS NOW, I BELIEVE, ARE STRIPED TO, UH, SERVICE PICKLEBALL AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE'LL KEEP THOSE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS HAPPY.
ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT HAS HAD AN IMPACT HERE THAT I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL WOULD BE, UH, ECONOMIC TOURISM DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO HELP PROVIDE SOME PROGRAMS THAT GO TO PITCH NIGHT, WHERE IT'S BASICALLY SHARK TANK FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
AND, UH, SO THEY, THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
THEY DO MOCK INTERVIEWS, AND THEN THE YOUTH COMMISSION, WHICH MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH AS WELL, UH, THE YOUTH COMMISSION, THEY HAVE, UH, GOTTEN THE YOUTH COMMISSION TO COME AND HELP ON MARKET DAYS AND DO VARIOUS CHORES, ET CETERA.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY ENGAGING THE SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC TOURISM DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THE NEXT STRATEGIC ITEM.
AND I THINK WHAT WE USE, THE TERM WE USE IS VALUE DRIVEN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
A NEW PROGRAM THAT, UH, MS. OLSON AND HER STAFF OFFERED WAS RESTAURANT WEEK.
AND ON THE INAUGURAL, UH, EVENT, THEY SIGNED UP 18, UH, RESTAURANTS TO DO THIS.
WHILE WE DON'T HAVE EXACT FIGURES, BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, BUT THEY ALL REPORT, THEY HAD ABOVE AVERAGE SALES AND, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVY ATTENDANCE.
SO IT SEEMED LIKE A REALLY GREAT, UH, PROGRAM.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, CHRISTIE HAS TALKED ABOUT DOING IT AGAIN, AND THAT WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME.
AND THEN, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART IS THE WORKBOOK RACES.
SO WE HAD SOME THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN WE'VE HAD, UH, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL USE OF THE WATERFRONT.
I KNOW WE HAVE VENDORS DOWN THERE
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THAT, BEFORE IT WAS EVEN OVER WHAT THEY WERE ASKING ME, WHAT ABOUT NEXT YEAR? WHAT DO WE DO THIS, WHAT DO WE DO THAT? SO I THINK WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THERE, DRAW, GROW MORE PEOPLE, AND DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EVEN MORE.UM, YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR'S.
AND I'LL JUST MENTION A COUPLE NEW OR RELOCATING BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY.
THE SHOPPING CENTER OVER THERE BY COUNTY GRILL TO KILN CREEK CREEK SPEAKING.
UM, DOMINION DOGS IS UP IN THE UPPER END OF THE COUNTY, A COLONIAL IRON GYM, AND WILLIAMSBURG FLORAL, JUST A FEW OF THE NEW AND MOVED BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YORK COUNTY.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN ANOTHER BUSY YEAR FOR GRAND OPENINGS AND, AND NEW, NEW BUSINESSES.
AND I THINK MR. SHEPHERD, YOU WERE, YOU COMMENTED THAT YOU HADN'T BEEN TO SO MANY IN, IN YOUR ENTIRE TENURE HERE, TOO.
SO FEELS LIKE IT WAS A, BEEN A GOOD COUPLE YEARS FOR NEW BUSINESSES AND, OR IT IS JUST A BUSINESSES KIND OF EXPANDING AND RE WAKENING, SO, RIGHT.
I'M BRINGING MY SKATES TO THE CHILLED PONDS, RIGHT? YES.
I'M I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ASK ESCORT YOU RIGHT THERE.
UM, AGAIN, I, I MENTIONED THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE 9 1 1 CENTER.
UH, WE ADDED A GENERATOR AT THE YMCA SO THAT THE YMCA, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO OFFER SHELTERING SERVICES.
AND WHY THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IS PRIOR TO HAVING THEM, IF WE HAD TO SHELTER PEOPLE, WE HAD TO KEEP SCHOOLS CLOSED.
BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO SCHOOL AND DO SHELTERING AT THE SAME TIME.
FOR SOME LOGISTICAL REASONS AND LEGAL REASONS.
BUT NOW WITH THE YMCA, WE DO HAVE A SMALL FACILITY THAT IF WE JUST HAD A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, WE COULD MOVE THEM OVER THERE.
SO THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS A BIG WIN FOR US, AND WE THANK THE CHIEF FOR, FOR PULLING THAT ALL OFF.
AND, AND IT'S GREAT FLEXIBILITY TOO.
'CAUSE JUST WHERE WE LIVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN INTO, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT AN ISSUE OF A BIG STORM COMING THROUGH.
I NOR EAST NOR EAST TO BLOW THROUGH HERE.
AND THE HIGH TIDE WILL PUSH WATER UP AND JUST DISPLACE PEOPLE WHERE THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS.
SO HAVING THIS FACILITY HERE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE CASES.
THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT WAS WE, WE PROVIDE SHELTERING FOR POSA, RIGHT? YES, WE DO.
WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD TO OPEN UP SHELTERS.
'CAUSE POSA, WE DIDN'T NEED 'EM FOR YOUR COUNTY RESIDENCE RIGHT.
THERE AGAIN, WE HAD TO USE THE SCHOOL.
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE BOARD'S, UH, STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
AND A COUPLE OF THE CHERRY PICKED ITEMS THAT I PULLED OFF OF HERE, UH, IS STORM WATER STREAM RESTORATION.
THIS IS COUNTRY LANE HERE ON THE LEFT BEHIND.
MAN, THAT LOOKS LIKE A PARK, DOESN'T IT? I, IF YOU WERE A RUNNER, THAT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD JUST TAKE OFF RIGHT DOWN THERE.
WHAT A, WHAT A NICE PLACE TO BE.
OVER ALL THOSE LITTLE PIECES STICKING OUT.
BUT THAT'LL ALL BE GONE AFTER A WHILE, AFTER THE GRASS COMES IN, ET CETERA.
WHERE IS THAT? THIS IS BEHIND DOT RV COUNTRY LAND.
OH, THAT'S OF COURSE, A BIT DOWN THERE.
AND SO THIS DOESN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
SO PUBLIC WORKS ALSO WORKED ON, UH, WORMLEY CREEK CULVERTS TO WORK ON THEIR DRAINAGE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST PROJECT OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR, UM, EDGE HILL.
UH, MR. T WATERS ALTERS SHOULD BE, UH, VERY HAPPY.
AND MIKE BOSSY, UH, SHOULD BOTH BE VERY HAPPY WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AND THEIR EFFORTS FOR, UH, STORM WATER THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK HE SAID THERE'S STILL ONE MORE PIECE MISSING THERE.
HE SAID HE HADN'T HEARD ANY NEWS ON THAT.
AND SIEGE LANE POND, THE, THAT, THAT OUT THERE, UH, THAT GOES RIGHT PAST YORKTOWN, UM, ELEMENT.
SO THOSE ARE ALL, UH, NICE, NICE PROJECTS.
SOME OF THE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL RECOGNIZE, UH, IT'S NOT INFREQUENT, UH, THAT YOU'RE AUTHORIZING FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO DO, UH, REHAB ON SOME OF OUR, UM, 1980S ERA PUMP STATIONS.
SO THAT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT CLEAN.
AND I THOUGHT THAT KAYAK LAUNCH WAS A, A NICE, UM, ADDITION AS WELL.
UH, OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT ON THE WATER IN A NON-MOTORIZED FASHION.
WHERE'S THAT, WHERE'S THE LAUNCH? UH, THIS ONE IS AT, UH, BACK CREEK PARK.
BRIAN TOOK THAT PICTURE FOR US.
WE HAVE THE, UH, WALKWAYS IN ALL PUT IN.
WE SUPPOSED TO PUT ONE IN, UH, AT, UH, NEW QUARTER PARK.
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THAT GOT CUT IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS CUT IN THE, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT.AND, UH, THE LAST, THE LAST, THE DOG PARK.
OH, I COULD HAVE DONE THE DOG PARK.
I WISH I, I WISH I'D THOUGHT OF THAT.
UM, TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS, UM, JUST LIKE BERKELEY TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO DO THAT.
UM, WE WANTED TO, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
UH, WE'VE, THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE OF VANITY IS A LITTLE OLDER THAN OUR PARAMETER HERE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL WORTHY OF MENTION.
UH, IT, IT IS A BIG UPGRADE FOR US THAT HAS GONE LIVE A LITTLE LONGER THAN A YEAR AGO.
UH, BUT IT IS OUR UTILITY SOLUTION.
SO IT'S USED BY UTILITIES, IT'S USED BY COMMISSION REVENUE, THE TREASURER AND THE FINANCE OFFICE.
UH, IT'S A NICE ADDITION TO OUR TYLER SOFTWARE THAT WE DO.
SO THAT, THAT'S, UM, ONE OF OUR SOFTWARE ITEMS. THEN THIS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, INVESTED AS WELL IN BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENT.
UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, SOME VENTILATOR CAPABILITY, AUTOMATED CPR DEVICES, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE ALSO HEARD CALLED LUCAS.
AND THEN AEDS, WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED THOSE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY IN THAT.
AND SO WE, WE ARE INVESTING IN THE LATEST AND GREATEST.
AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE REAL HIGHLIGHTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD ON STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IN THE LAST NINE, 12 MONTHS.
I APPRECIATE YOU PULLING THAT TOGETHER.
'CAUSE SENATOR, WE, WE SPEAK TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT WELL, HOW, HOW WE WE ADDRESS THEM.
YOU COMING INTO THE FIRST, THE, THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
WE WANNA MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT OR COURSE CHANGE, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE WITH WHAT WE'RE, WHAT BEING ACCOMPLISHED THERE.
AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR HELPING ME PUT THAT TOGETHER.
UH, MR, I DID WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED TO ME THAT YOU HAD, I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, BUT YOU, YOU DID WANT, UH, THE FIRE CHIEF TO MAKE MENTION OF, UH, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT SERVE YORK COUNTY.
UM, YES, I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT WHEN HE SPOKE TO US ABOUT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN ADOPTION.
BUT, BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, WE'VE BEEN AT TWO HOURS.
WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK OR JUST KEEP I'M SEEING A YES.
ALRIGHT, FOLKS, BACK FROM RECESS.
AND LET'S MOVE ON IN THE REST OF OUR AGENDA.
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INTO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR NOW.WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT.
ONE IS APPROVAL IN A MINUTE FROM AUGUST 16TH, AUGUST SIX, AND THEN AUGUST 20TH.
UH, POTENTIAL SUIT NUMBER FIVE, POTENTIAL SEWER EXTENSION.
NUMBER SIX, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN RE ADOPTION.
AND NUMBER SEVEN IS RETIREMENT RESOLUTION FOR MASTER FIREFIGHTER TIDE
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA MESS THAT UP.
SO, SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, FOUR ITEMS WE HAVE TONIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS WE WANT TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE? NUMBER FIVE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, CHIEF KAKI COULD SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
I GOT WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING THAT, THAT, TO BE NUMBER SIX? MM-HMM.
UM, I GOT A QUESTION FOR HIM WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
IF NOT, I'LL MOVE CONSENT CALENDAR, ACTIVE NUMBER FIVE AND SIX.
MR. NO, WE, WE, WE, WE, WE, WE, I'M JUST PULLING YEAH, WE, WE, WE NEED TO DISCUSS FIRST.
THIS IS DISCUSSION, NOT, OKAY.
SO WE'RE NOT MOVING ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, UNDER, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE, THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE, THE OVERALL COUNTY.
WHEN I, UM, WHEN I READ THE RESOLUTION ON, IT SAYS PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING AT IT.
IT SAYS THE RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO INSTALL AND CONNECT SEWER TO THE 14 EXISTING HOMES ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
AND THEN IT GOES IN, TALKS ABOUT SEVEN.
UM, AND, AND REAL QUICK, MR. SHOT, YOU SAID THERE'S A DIFFERENT HOME COUNT SHOULD BE 11, 11, 11, AND IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED.
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UM, SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HERE.UM, IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS ACTUALLY MAKE THIS KIND OF RESOLUTION FOR THIS KIND OF ACTION.
OKAY? I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG, BAD, OR GOOD, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M NOW LOOKING AT THIS, I'M NOW ASKING SOME CLARITY ON OUR PROCEDURES OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
BECAUSE NOTHING IN THIS THAT I SAW IN THIS RESOLUTION OKAY.
MANDATES ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT DIRECTS THE STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN.
IT JUST, IT DIRECTS THE STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN.
UH, IT DOESN'T SET ANY PRIORITIZATION FOR THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL IT DOES.
NOW, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SEWER PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL DUE TO BE DONE IN THIS COUNTY.
SO ARE WE NOW, AS THE SUPERVISORS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BRING EACH ONE OF OUR SEWER PROJECTS FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? OR ARE WE NOT GOING TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT UNDER, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, WHERE WHAT WE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALL THE PROJECTS.
THE STAFF IDENTIFIES ALL THE SEWER PROJECTS OUT THERE.
AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE, WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
AND THERE IS A PRIORITIZED LISTING, NOT A, WELL, THERE IS A PRIORITIZED LISTING OF THE PROJECTS BASED ON A GRADING CRITERIA.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IF WE, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE HOMES, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THAT PROJECT.
IT WAS THE MORSE CREEK PROJECT, UM, WHERE, WELL, I THINK IT WAS CALLED MORRIS CREEK SEWER PROJECT.
AND WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, PEOPLE LIVING ON SEWER OF HOME SEWERS, SEPTIC TANKS, RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE WATER.
AND WHICH THEY'RE, NOW THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED, AND THROUGH THAT STUDY, UH, THE NORTH CAROLINA CAME IN AND A STUDY THAT, UH, THIS BACTERIAL STUDY THAT THE, THAT THAT IT WAS HUMAN FECAL MATTER.
UH, GOING INTO THE SYSTEM, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE YOU END UP, UH, UH, CLOSING DOWN THINGS LIKE MORRIS CREEK, COAST RIVER AND A FEW OTHERS.
UM, IT CAN HAVE, UH, LIKE OYSTER HARVESTING.
SO WHEN I SEE THIS, I'M TRYING TO THINK, OKAY, WE'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A LIST.
I'VE GOT THREE SPOTS RIGHT THERE ON BIG BETHEL ROAD THAT WE'VE PROMISED THOSE PEOPLE FOR OVER 20 YEARS THAT WE WERE GOING TO, WE WERE GONNA GO INSTALL THAT THOSE HOMES.
PUT THEM, GET 'EM OFF OF, UH, OFF OF, UH, SEPTIC, THE SEPTIC TANKS.
AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS NOW.
AND THE PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE HAVE DONE, I JUST NAMED ONE OF THEM KERRY'S CHAPEL.
WE HAD 17 HOMES AT THE END OF KERRY'S CHAPEL.
AND WE HAD TO PUT SOME, SOME PUMPS IN THERE ON ALL THOSE.
'CAUSE THE, THAT'S, AT THAT POINT, THE MONEY HAD RUN OUT, UH, FOR ALL THE OTHERS DOWN, DOWN, UH, KAGE CHAPEL.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I GOT IN, UH, I WAS GONNA PROMISE THE FOLKS WE WERE GONNA PUSH FOR IT AND WE DID.
BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TO BRING IT AS A RESOLUTION BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE WE HAD A LIST OF OTHER PROJECTS AND PRIORITIZATION, WHICH IS KEPT, FOR EXAMPLE, BIG BETHEL ROAD OFF OF, UH, OFF THE, NOT OFF THE LIST, BUT FURTHER DOWN.
UM, SO I'M ASKING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SINCE WE'RE NOT, SINCE THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION ON ONE ROAD WITH 11 HOMES, WHY IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST? WANT ME TO TAKE IT? YES, SIR.
I THINK WE KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD NOW IT IS IN THE CIP SO IT'S ALREADY COVERED.
IT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING, UH, PLAN TO DO SEWERS ON THIS ROAD.
UM, IT PROBABLY HAS TO MOVE FORWARD A YEAR OR SO VERSUS WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CIP BECAUSE IF WE WANNA DO THE SEWERS BEFORE WE REPAVE THAT ROAD, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO IT IN PROBABLY 27.
UM, SO THAT MOVES IT, THAT MOVES IT FORWARD A YEAR OR TWO AGAINST WHAT WE HAD IN THE CIP.
BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED, AND I I WILL GO BACK TO MR. MORGAN'S, UH, ADDRESS TO US, WHEN HE LOOKED AT HAWKS NEST AS A VIABLE ALTERNATE FOR HAVING CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC COME IN.
IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE TO DO IT EITHER DUE TO COST OR DUE TO TIMING.
AND WE SAID THE PEOPLE ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD ARE GONNA HAVE TO PUT UP WITH CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC FOR THREE MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS.
BUT WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING FOR THEM AT THE END OF THAT.
THAT WAS HIS, THAT WAS HIS COMMENT.
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THAT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS BOARD CONSIDERED DOING SOMETHING FOR THEM.WE HAVE 11 HOMES ON THAT STREET THAT WE FEEL WE SHOULD DO THE SEWER TIE IN AND PULL AND PULL THE COST OF THAT, UH, AS PART OF THE COUNTY COST IN, IN, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THOSE CITIZENS.
THIS BOARD MADE A MISTAKE BY NOT LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES.
WHEN THE PROJECT CAME FORWARD, WE ELIMINATED THE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THROUGH THE TIMESHARES, BUT WE DID NOT LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON, ON, ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD BY ADDING TRANQUILITY.
NOW MR. KENNEDY WOULD SAY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET IT WRONG? I THINK THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE WE GOT IT WRONG.
NOW, I, I SUBMIT THAT THIS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.
IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT AND IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR TOTAL CIP THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN.
LET'S DO THAT SEWER LINE ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD AS PER THE PLAN.
AND LET'S COVER THIS COST FOR THOSE 11 HOMES.
YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
IN FACT, THE QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHAT YOU DID WAS GAVE, YOU GAVE RATIONALE FOR THE PROJECT.
BUT NOT FOR THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE, WE, AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PRIORITIZE ALL THE SEWER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
WHAT I, IT'S IN THE CIP WE PRIORITIZED IT BASED ON, HANG ON, HANG ON.
I I I'M NOT ARGUING OF THE RATIONALE FOR DOING IT.
I'M MORE INTERESTED IN WHY THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION WHEN WE HAVE NEVER, UM, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS FOR A SEWER PROJECT AT ANY TIME THAT I CAN REMEMBER, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE, THE STAFF WOULD BRING FORWARD THE PLAN THAT LISTED ALL THE PROJECTS IN THERE.
I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY JUST TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE CIP THERE'S GOTTA BE OTHERS IN THAT.
CIP OF COURSE THE CIP ONLY GOES OUT, GOES OUT A FEW YEARS.
SO THIS, THIS RESOLUTION OTHER THAN DIRECTING THE STAFF TO, TO PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT DOES, DOES NOTHING.
'CAUSE I GOT OTHER PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR BREATHS WAITING FOR SEWER PROJECTS.
THE DOG, WE HAD OAK, UH, THE OAK, UH, WAS A BIND.
WE DID THE SEWER PROJECT DOWN THERE.
WE GOT THE MORRIS CREEK PROJECT.
I TALKED ABOUT, NOT THE DRAINAGE PROJECT, BUT THE SEWER PROJECT.
WE'VE DONE OTHERS, I THINK IN PATRICK CREEK.
UH, I, WE'VE, UH, WE, WE MOVED A, WE REMOVED A HOUSE DOWN HERE OFF OF, REMEMBER THE OLD, UH, KID HOUSE, UH, SEARS KID HOUSE DOWN HERE? 'CAUSE IT HAD A BACK HOUSE.
I CAN'T BELIEVE OR BACK WHAT IS AN OUTHOUSE? I CAN'T BELIEVE WE WERE ACTUALLY RENTING THAT OUT ON THE, BY THE COUNTY.
SO ALL THESE PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT 'EM THE LISTED.
SO DON'T SIT THERE AND SMILE AT ME, MAN.
TELL ME HOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS PROJECT, HOW THIS FITS WITH ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'VE GOT.
WELL, WHAT I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU, UH, RECENTLY IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, PUT TOGETHER, UH, ROB KRIEGER AND HIS STAFF PUBLIC WORKS HAS PUT TOGETHER A STRATEGIC INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.
AND WE WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.
I I UNDERSTAND, I HEARD TODAY THAT THAT IS READY TO COME TO THE BOARD, THAT THEY HAVE FINISHED.
AND IT DOES HAVE, UH, CRITERIA BY WHICH THE PROJECTS WOULD BE RANKED AND HOW THEY WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT THERE.
WE ARE READY TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE DELAYED BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON, UH, A LOT OF, UH, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PROJECTS, THE GREEN BELT BUFFER, THE HOME BASE BUSINESS, UM, ZONING JUST PASSED THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS.
SO YOU GOT THAT ONE OFF YOUR PLATE.
BUT WE, STAFF AND MYSELF, AND I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU WERE READY FOR ANOTHER BIG PROJECT AND WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON OFF THE TABLE.
BUT WE'RE READY TO BRING IT TO YOU.
THE PROJECT IS DONE, IT'S READY FOR YOU TO PREVIEW.
IT'S, IT'S GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
AND, AND IF YOU RECALL AT THE LAST MEETING, I EVEN MENTIONED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BRIAN WOODWARD HAD DONE THE, THE FIRST PLAN OF THIS NATURE.
AND THIS, THIS IS USING HIS TEMPLATE TO PROVIDE YOU, UH, ITEMS TO MAKE DECISIONS, CRITERIA TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHO SHOULD GO FIRST OR WHO SHOULD GO LAST.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BOARD HAS THAT ULTIMATE AUTHORITY.
SO I'M PREPARED TO BRING THAT.
IF YOU WANNA SEE IT, YOU JUST TELL ME WHICH MEETING YOU WANNA SEE IT AT, AND WE WILL BE THERE.
SO, AND IT WILL HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS IN IT.
SO I, ONE OF THE REASON I'M REALLY
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KIND OF, THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS THAT WE ALL HAVE SORT OF, THEY HAVE WE, SHEILA, YOURS PROBABLY ARE ALL DONE BY NOW? NO, NO.I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE GOT A COUPLE, I'VE GOT AN AREA NOW THAT'S GOING THROUGH THIS AND THERE'S OTHERS IN THE COUNTY.
ALRIGHT? AND SO WE GOTTA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON PROJECTS AND, AND, UH, THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE PRIORITIZED IN A RATIONALE MANNER SO THAT NOT ONLY THAT WE GO TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, THEY UNDERSTAND IT'S COMING THEIR WAY.
AND WE WILL GIVE 'EM A CHANCE BASED UPON WHAT THE CRITERIA THAT SET SO THEY CAN GET READY.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE ESTABLISH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PAY PRE PREPAY, TAP FEES, CHARGES, OKAY? MM-HMM.
UM, AND, UH, AND, AND IN FAIRNESS TO EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, THE SEWER LINE COMES DOWN.
I MEAN, REMEMBER IN DANDY WE GOT DOWN THERE AND HE GOT OVER TOWARDS, UH, WAS IT CHARLIE BROWN PARK IN THAT AREA? AND WE SAID, YEP, IT'S COMING IN AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY IT.
NOW SOME PEOPLE PUSHED BACK ON THAT AND GUESS WHAT? THEY ENDED UP PAYING ALMOST $10,000 BECAUSE THEY GOT FINED BECAUSE OF THE, NOT FINED, BUT BECAUSE THE COST JUMPED AND THAT WE, THEY WENT TO COURT AND THE COURT SAID, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY.
SO INSTEAD OF PAYING THE 4,000, YOU PAY THE 10,000 OR WHATEVER THAT DOUBLE CHARGE IS.
SO WE, WE, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT IN THIS.
AND HERE'S THE, ONE OF THE REAL BIG THINGS, DOUG, THAT I'M PUSHING THIS, IS THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO PROMISE SOMETHING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND IT NOT SHOW UP.
OKAY? BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT ALL THIS.
AND I THINK THE RATIONALE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT IS THAT ENVIRONMENTALLY, WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THAT ROAD IN SOME OF THOSE HOUSES WAS DAMNING WAS DAMAGING THE ENVIRONMENT.
SIMPLY DAMAGING THE ENVIRONMENT.
RAW SEW BEING DUMPED RIGHT INTO THE CREEK.
THAT'S JUST TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
SO THE, AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK TO THIS.
WE CAN'T DO THIS PIECEMEAL, ALRIGHT? WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT.
YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WE GOT IT IN THE, IN THE COMP PLAN.
MEANING IN THE, IN THE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THERE NEEDS TO BE BASED UPON SOME RATIONALE THAT, THAT CITIZENS CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY STAND IN THIS.
PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HAVING TO, I MEAN, THEY DON'T WANNA PAY WHATEVER THE CHARGE NOW IS TO HAVE THEIR SEPTIC TANKS DUMPED OUT EVERY FIVE YEARS, COUPLE YEARS, WHATEVER, EVERY, EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND SO WE'VE GOT, OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE GET COMPLAINTS FOR THESE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WHEN I SEE THIS, THIS ONE, THIS RESOLUTION JUST IDENTIFIES AS A PROJECT, WHICH THE STAFF, I'M LOOKING OVER HERE, THE STAFF SHOULD HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT WE SHOULD KNOW EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS ALREADY.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE GOING OUT AS SUPERVISORS AND FINDING OUR, OUR OWN PROJECT.
THIS ONE HAS SOME NOTORIETY 'CAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER CRAP THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT.
BUT THIS IS, TO ME NOT A WAY TO DO THIS.
I THINK IT'S ALL THE PROJECT IS ALREADY.
I'M NOT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'LL SUPPORT THIS.
BUT IT, THE THING IS, IT'S, IT, IT'S LIKE, WOW, THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN IDENTIFY AS A PROJECT.
AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PROJECT IDENTIFIED.
SO THIS, THE RESOLUTION, SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, JUST PULL THE RESOLUTION AND WAIT FOR THIS REPORT TO COME? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NO, I MEAN, I'M JUST, YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY FINE.
OR WE COULD PASS IT FINE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THIS ONE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN, SAY, IDENTIFIES IT AT A PROJECT.
DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GONNA BE DONE.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHEN IT'S GONNA BE DONE WITH TIME, STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE SORT OF DO THIS THROUGH OUR CAPITAL, CAPITAL, UH, IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
BUT THEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AS WE SAW IN THE LAST BUDGET, CAN CHANGE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SHIFTING A FIRETRUCK, RIGHT? IT, IT'S, IT'S HOW PRIORITY WORKS, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GOT.
SO I'M JUST, I'M BRINGING HIS POINT UP THAT THIS IS, THIS, THIS PROCEDURE HERE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME IN THE WAY OF IDENTIFYING THIS PROJECT.
WHICH MAKES SENSE TO ME AS, AS, AS WE'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST, IS THAT, MARK, DO YOU GET THE STAFF THAT COMPILE THE LIST OF ALL THESE PROJECTS FOR ALL THE DISTRICTS OF THIS COUNTY BECAUSE THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPORTANT EFFORT.
AND YOU COME TO THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND YOU SAY, THIS IS THE LIST.
THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LIST AND THIS IS THE LIST.
AND THIS ONE OBVIOUSLY WILL BE IN IT.
WE COULD PASS AND SAY, YEAH, MAKE SURE IT'S IN IT.
BUT THAT'S JUST NOT A, THIS IS NOT A WAY TO DO THIS.
I, I THINK YOU UNDER, YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
'CAUSE AND I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.
BOTH OF YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP.
YOU, IT DOESN'T DIRECT, OTHER THAN HIM PUTTING, IDENTIFYING AS A PROJECT, THAT'S ALL IT DOES.
AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S ALL IT DOES.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RUNNING DOWN HERE SAYING WE'RE GONNA PAY TAP FEES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THERE'S ANOTHER PROCESS FOR ALL THAT TO OCCUR.
THAT'S WHAT THE STAFF, UM, THEN GOES AND TALKS AND EVALUATES EACH POSITION TO SEE WHAT SERVICES WE CAN DO TO HELP COVER
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THE TAP FEES ON PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING AWAY TAP FEES ANYWHERE.
AND BUT ALSO I THINK WHEN, WHEN THEY PUT THEIR LIST TOGETHER, THEY'LL SHOW WHICH ONES MAKE SHIFT IN PRIORITY BECAUSE OF A NEED.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF.
WE DON'T, NO, BUT WE SET, WE APPROVE THE WHOLE LIST, BUT WE APPROVE IT.
WE AT, WE APPROVE EVERY ONE OF THESE.
WE APPROVE IT ON THE LIST AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME TO US.
BUT THEY MAY CHANGE, THEY MAY CHANGE THEM ACCORDING TO THE, THE CHANGE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
WELL, THEY CAN CHANGE IT, BUT WE, WE CAN ALSO CHANGE IT HOWEVER WE WANT.
WE'RE THE ONES THAT APPROVE IT.
THIS IS A PIECEMEAL EFFORT'S INEFFICIENT.
AND I JUST, I DON'T THINK THIS, I WANT THE CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THIS DOES IS JUST IDENTIFY AS A PROJECT.
IT DOES NOT PROVIDE A SOLUTION.
IT DOESN'T, PRO DOESN'T PROVIDE A PRIORITY.
IT JUST ALL IDENTIFIES AS A PROJECT.
IT'S A PROJECT AMONG THE, ALL THE OTHER ONES I JUST LISTED.
OKAY, WELL, LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT THAT, AND MR. HO, KEEP ME HONEST HERE, BUT I BELIEVE THE MAIN DRIVER BEHIND THIS IS IDENTIFYING THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THE FOLKS ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD BECAUSE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE HAVE BEEN SEVERELY IMPACTED, WILL CONTINUE TO BE SEVERELY IMPACTED UNTIL THEIR PROJECT'S OVER WITH HAS BEEN SOME DAMAGE TO THE ROAD, PROBABLY TO SOME OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE.
I THINK THE GRANT, YOU KNOW, USING COUNTY RESOURCES TO FACILITATE A GRANT PROGRAM OR TO FACILITATE THE GRANT PROGRAM TO HELP THOSE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, FIND THOSE FUNDS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT OF OUR, OF OUR COUNTY RESOURCES.
UM, SO LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF WHY WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT, BUT I GO BACK TO, I GO TO MY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU THE QUESTION.
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT? WELL, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU MAKE A, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT THERE.
BUT ALSO REMEMBER TOO, THERE HAS BEEN WORK DONE TO A ACCOMMODATE THIS ALREADY.
THE DEVELOPER HAS RUN A TAP AT THERE SO THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN PLACE.
WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE TALKED, I WANNA SAY PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO YEARS AGO, TALKED ABOUT DOING SEWER RIGHT THERE AS PART OF THE COMPENSATION, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROBLEMS. YEAH.
THAT'S WHY ENDED UP IN THE CIP.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST REITERATING WHAT WE'RE ALREADY STATED WE'RE DOING.
BUT, UH, 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M, I'M READING WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD THAT WE'RE JUST TELLING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A PLAN TO EXTEND SEWER AND, AND HOW TO CONNECT THE, IS THIS, I GUESS 11 HOMES.
SO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GONNA DO.
SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT THIS PROJECT TO COME THE NORM.
WE SHOULD, WE GOTTA GET THAT LIST.
I THINK THAT LIST IS IMPORTANT.
I WAS REALLY SURPRISED WHEN THIS CAME UP THAT WE DON'T, WE WEREN'T OPERATING OFF A LIST BECAUSE THAT LIST THAT BRIAN BUILT AND, AND DEFENDED FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, THERE WAS SOMETHING WE COULD REALLY, WE COULD REALLY BANK ON.
AND EVIDENTLY YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S KIND OF GONE AWAY.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOESN'T, WE COULD DECIDE TODAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, PUT A EXTENDED SEWER TOMORROW, BUT YOU CAN'T BEGIN ANY WORK ON THAT TILL THAT, TILL THAT CONSTRUCTION TRACK'S OVER WITH.
'CAUSE YOU'LL JUST RUIN EVERYTHING.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR OUT IN THE FUTURE BEFORE WE CAN EVEN DO IT BECAUSE, BUT TWO, TWO YEARS.
BUT I, BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR SUGGESTION IN RELATION TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON OUR LIST AND PRIORITIZE IT AND THEN BRING IT TO US, WHICH THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT IT.
I THINK THAT'S, WELL, HERE'S THE THING.
Q I'M SAYING THERE'S NOT A LIST BASED ON THIS.
NO, HE SAYS THERE'S A LIST, BUT WE THERE'S NOT A LIST UNTIL WE APPROVE IT, WE SEE IT.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
IT'S A CONCEPT LIST IN A WHILE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S JUST LIKE 13% OF A PLAN.
BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING OUR WAY DOWN.
BUT WE DO NEED, THEY DO NEED, I'M DONE.
UM, SO, SO, SO BEFORE WE GET OFF OF THIS, THE, THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST OF THIS IS, IS WE, THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING.
IT SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE MADE A MISTAKE.
THE DEVELOPER OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PROFFERS OR SOMETHING.
THE DEVELOPER CAUSED ALL THE HEADACHES AND HAS CONTINUED TO CAUSE HEADACHES.
AND YET WE'VE NOT HELD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU I HOW YOU GONNA DO THAT? IF WE HAD THE POWER OF FORESIGHT, IF, IF IF, IF THE, WHENEVER THIS DECISION WAS MADE, IF THAT BOARD HAD THE POWER OF FORESIGHT, WOULD THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CANNOT MANDATE PROFFERS.
BUT YOU CAN, NO, YOU CAN'T PENALTIES IN CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WHEN THERE'S DAMAGE DONE.
BUT THE CON BUT THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS NOT BETWEEN
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US AND THEM, BUT IT CAN STILL BE PUT IN THAT THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THEIR CONTRACT.THERE'S AN OFFSITE REQUIREMENT THAT WE DON'T, WE CAN'T ENFORCE, WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
WE CAN'T ENFORCE THE PROFFER AND THE STATE IT STATE ISSUED THAT THE ROAD COULD BE USED.
I MEAN, SO, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME THINGS HERE ARE JUST NOT RIGHT.
BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE YEAH.
AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOW PAYING FOR THE THINGS THAT AREN'T RIGHT.
THAT DECISIONS WERE MADE BEFORE.
ANOTHER LESSON LEARNED THAT WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THIS, WELL, HOLD ON.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE WE PAYING, WHAT ARE COUNTY TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR THOUGH? THESE TAP FEES, RIGHT? NO, WE'RE NOT PAYING ANY TAP FEES.
WE DON'T SAY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
WE'RE FACT FACT, IN FACT, THE, THE RESOLUTION DOESN'T EVEN, YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE, WHEREAS IT TALKS ABOUT THE, THE IMPACT.
BUT AT THE, THE, THE, THE FINAL PARAGRAPH IS THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION DOESN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
SO WHO PAYS THAT? IT WILL HOPEFUL, HOPEFULLY THE GRANT PROGRAM WILL FIND THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR, FOR THOSE FOLKS.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T, IF THE HOMEOWNER PAYS, THE HOMEOWNER DOESN'T.
OR WE CAN, OR WE CAN GET BACK TOGETHER AND TALK, TALK SOME MORE ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS.
THAT'S, BUT, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, MR ANOTHER OPTION, THE HOMEOWNER PAYS WHATEVER WE CAN GET FOR THE GRANTS.
BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S IN A SEWER, IN A SEWER EXTENS PROGRAM, LIKE THE FOLKS OVER WHITE, WHITE FAULKNER.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAYING A TRAFFIC, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE SAME THING.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT GRANT OPTIONS AND OTHER FUNDING FINANCIAL OPTIONS TO, TO PAY FOR THAT STUFF.
IF I'M NOT, AND, AND, UH, MARK, OKAY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GRANTS HERE, IT'S, THERE IS A, IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING OUT GETTING GRANTS FROM SOMEBODY ELSE IS WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING THE GRANT.
BECAUSE WE LOOK AT A PERSON OR LOOK AT A, AT A PROPERTY OWNER WHO THAT'S, AND THE POLICY IS THEY'RE PAYING GRANTS.
THERE, THERE ARE GRANTS OF NO, THERE ARE GRANTS.
WE, I KNOW, BUT THERE'S, WAIT A MINUTE, LET'S DON'T GET THOSE, GET CRAZY GRANTS.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT OUR POLICY, IF YOU EXTEND SEWER SOMEWHERE AND IT TOUCHES YOUR PROPERTY, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE TAP FEE.
AND NOT ONLY DO YOU PAY THE TAP FEE, WHICH IS ABOUT, WHAT, $4,000.
BUT THEN DEPENDING ON HOW FAR AWAY YOUR HOUSE IS FROM THAT TAP, YOU CAN BE PAYING THAT WHOLE THING.
SO IT COULD BE 300 FEEDERS THOUGH.
IT CAN GET INTO THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
SO, AND SO WHAT WE DO IS THAT WE HAVE SOME WAY OF, I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS, I'VE FORGOTTEN ALL THIS SO MANY YEARS AGO.
BUT WE HAVE A PROCESS, BUT WE EVALUATE A NEEDS SPACE PROGRAM WHERE WE MAY EVEN HAVE TO COME IN AND PAY FOR IT OURSELVES.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE EXTENDED THE, UH, PIPE, I DON'T REMEMBER.
SO THAT WE PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE, WHOLE BASIS BEHIND THIS.
I THINK WE STRETCHED OUT THE PAYMENTS, BUT I DON'T RECALL, I DON'T RECALL.
THERE'S, WE GOT ALL WHATEVER PAYING.
WE, WE GOT A, WE GOT A KIND PROCESS.
SO I THINK PART OF THIS WAS, PART OF THE RESOLUTION WAS TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME PLANNING OF THIS.
THAT'S ALL DOING, UM, ABBOTT IS HERE.
UM, HE'S MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE GRANTS, BUT THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC GRANTS, ESPECIALLY FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE FOR SEWER FEES.
AND WHERE WE CAN GET, I THINK UP $20,000 PER HOUSE.
OH, WELL IT'S, IT'S THE SEWER LINE ITSELF, BUT YEAH, IT'S 50,000 PER HOUSE.
SO WE, WE, WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT.
BUT UNTIL WE GET INTO DESIGN AND, AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS MUCH LATER.
BUT WE NEED TO DO SOME OF THAT PROCESS AND SOME OF THAT PROCESS PLANNING GRANTS OR JUST GETTING THE, THE GRANT PROCESS STARTING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE WANTED TO START THAT PROCESS FAR ENOUGH THEN TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO THE BOARD TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND.
HERE'S HOW WE THINK WE CAN PAY FOR IT.
HERE'S WHAT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, HOW WE SHOULD DO IT.
UM, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO GO.
'CAUSE WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION'S DONE AND THEY GO PAVE THE ROAD, THE LAST WE WANT TO DO IS NOT BE READY AND HAVE TO RIP IT BACK UP AND PUT SOMETHING OUT.
AND THAT'S PUTTING IN THE PIPE.
YEAH, WE'VE DONE THIS IN A LOT OF PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE, UH, I MEAN OVER THE YEARS WE'VE DONE SUCH THINGS AS, I REMEMBER MR. BROWN BY THE, BEHIND THE DAIRY QUEEN.
THAT'S THE OAK WHAT OAK STREET AREA THINK'S, WHAT WE CALL IT.
HE'S THE ONE THAT CAME UP WITH THE IDEAS, SAYS, HEY TOM, CAN WE, CAN WE NOT, CAN WE JUST PAY IN ADVANCE? AND SO WE COULD, WE SET UP A PROGRAM AND SO THE GUY PEOPLE THERE STARTED PAYING, PUTTING THEIR MONEY UP, PAYING IN ADVANCE.
AND WHEN IT CAME THE TIME FOR THEIR TAP FEE, THEN THEY COULD PAY IT.
NOW THE IMPORTANT PART, KEEP IN MIND, ON TAP FEES IS THAT ONCE THAT PIPE GOES DOWN THERE, OKAY, THE MAIN LINE, THE TAP FEE, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE IT INSTALLED IN A PERIOD, CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
AND IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU FALL OUTSIDE THAT WINDOW, THAT'S WHEN YOU, YOU CAN END UP WITH A DOUBLE CHARGE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TO THIS.
AND THE, AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE THING HERE WAS, I JUST, I'M WORRIED ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS WE GOTTA DEAL WITH.
AND THEN THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO COME TO THIS BOARD WITH A WHOLE LIST.
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WE HAVE NOTE BOOK AND IT'S QUITE THICK.BECAUSE IT'S ON MY CABINET RIGHT THERE.
AND IT'S ABOUT TWO INCHES THICK OF TO GO THROUGH AND, AND START THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE, THE FIRST THING WE WANNA DO WITH THAT PLAN THOUGH, IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CRITERIA AND HOW WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST PIECE THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING TO YOU, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AGREE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THE CRITERIA SET.
WELL, BUT THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.
SO SOME OF THAT, IS IT STILL NOT, SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.
WE'VE, WE'VE TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BIT.
MAKE IT MORE MODERN, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BENEFICIAL.
ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL UNDERSTAND, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS SO LARGER.
ONCE, ONCE YOU GIVE US THE GREEN LIGHT ON THOSE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS METHODOLOGY, THEN BOOM, WE'VE ALREADY GOT, I MEAN WE'VE GOT THE PROJECTS ALL LISTED AND PLAN IT OUT.
THAT'S WHAT I, BUT THEN WE CAN THEN WE'LL RANK THEM AND THEN BRING THEM BACK TO YOU.
SO YOU GONNA BRING, SO YOU'RE THERE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO US WITH THE CRITERIA FIRST.
SO WE WANT YOU TO, WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
WE, BECAUSE THE CRITERIA HASN'T BEEN DONE IN 20 SOME YEARS.
AND LIKE MARK JUST STATED, ALL THE, SO ONCE WE GET YOUR APPROVAL ON THE METHODOLOGY AND THE CRITERIA, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE LIST.
WE'LL RANK THEM AND THEN BRING THAT LIST BACK TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S OUR PROFESSIONAL GUESS OR PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON HOW THE PROJECTS RANK.
I DO, DO SUPERVISORS A FAVOR AND GET THE, TO GET THAT PRIORITIZED LIST OUT AND DRAFT TO US SO WE CAN BE PREPARED AND EDUCATED ON WHY IT'S CHANGED.
AND THE THINGS, I MEAN, ENVIRONMENTAL IS ALWAYS ONE, HOW MANY HOMES WERE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, WAS THE PROJECT, HOW MUCH WAS THIS PROJECT THINK ESTIMATED GONNA COST, WHETHER WE WE COULD EVEN AFFORD IT.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS.
BUT THE WHOLE POINT THAT PART OF HAVING THE CRITERIA WAS SO THAT IT WAS APOLITICAL AND IT WASN'T STRETCHED FOR YOUR DISTRICT OR MY DISTRICT, BUT IT WAS JUST OVER, OVER THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE AT THE TIME.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE NEEDS THAT ARE THERE.
SO YOU AND I WILL WORK ON TRYING TO FIND SLIDE TWO, FIT THIS IN.
'CAUSE WE, WE GOT SOME FULL AGENDAS HERE FOR THE REST, REST OF THE YEAR.
WELL WE, THE MORE WE DELAY THIS, WE START RUNNING INTO PROBLEM.
DOUG'S TALKING ABOUT YOU OF THE YEARS AND ALL THAT.
UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GO INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WITH, WITHOUT A PLAN.
BUT THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE BUDGET.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE, WE'VE GOT SLACK TIME EITHER.
AND I, I THINK YOU AND I, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU AND I ARE SHARING THE SAME CONCERN ABOUT WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR YET.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY ADDRESSED HERE.
THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION DOWN THE ROAD.
CHIEF KAZINSKI, UM, REAL QUICK, AND BECAUSE THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND ONE I WANNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU START OFF WITH, UH, A COUPLE MINUTES ON OUR FOLKS FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT ARE ASSISTING IN THE HURRICANE RELIEF EFFORTS.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE GOT SOME FOLKS DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, HURRICANE
UH, IT MOVED UP THROUGH SIX STATES.
UH, AND IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, UH, THE FEMA URBAN SUCH AND RESCUE TASK FORCE THAT IS OPERATED OUT OF VIRGINIA BEACH, KNOWN AS VIRGINIA TASK FORCE TWO MM-HMM.
THEY INITIALLY DEPLOYED ALONG WITH OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS FROM OTHER STATES, WHAT'S CALLED AN INCIDENT SUPPORT TEAM TO GO DOWN AND, AND, AND OPERATE OUT OF ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
ASSISTING OPER THE OVERALL OPERATIONS OUT OF THERE.
WE HAD ONE MEMBER THAT DEPLOYED WITH THAT INCIDENT SUPPORT TEAM ON THURSDAY EARLY.
AND THEN LATER ON THAT, UH, NOT THURSDAY, NO, ON THE 24TH OR A WEEK AGO TODAY.
AND THEN LATER ON THAT DAY, UH, IT WAS DECIDED, UH, FEMA DECIDED THEY NEEDED TO DEPLOY AN ENTIRE TASK FORCE, AN 80 MEMBER TASK FORCE, UH, TO FLORIDA.
SO THAT EVENING, LATE ON THE 24TH, UH, OUR 80 MEMBER TEAM WAS DEPLOYED, PREDOMINANTLY MADE OUT OF FOLKS FROM HAMPTON ROADS AND A FEW FROM THE GREATER RICHMOND AREA OF WHICH TWO OF OUR MEMBERS ARE DEPLOYED WITH THAT TEAM.
SO THE INCIDENT SUPPORT TEAM REMAINS IN ORLANDO SUPPORTING THE OVERALL, UH, THEATER OF OPERATION.
AND THEN THE, THE REST OF THE TEAM, THE 80 MEMBER TEAM HAS RELOCATED.
THEY WERE INITIALLY IN, IN, UH, ORLANDO.
THEY WENT SOUTH, SOUTH, SOUTH TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA.
THEY MOVED TO TAMPA AND THEN TO SIESTA KEY FLORIDA.
AND NOW THEY'RE IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA, JUST NORTH OF NASHVILLE OPERATING ON RESCUE OPERATIONS AND SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS BASICALLY NOW.
SO WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF OUR DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH THE, THE REST OF THE INCIDENT SUPPORT TEAM, AGAIN
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IN ORLANDO STILL.AND TWO MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THE 80 PERSON TEAM THAT IS NOW IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA.
LOOKS LIKE NORMALLY THOSE DEPLOYMENTS ARE 14 TO EIGHT DEPLOYMENTS.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, REQUESTED THAT THEY BE EXTENDED FOR 24 DAYS NOW.
SO THE LONGEST, UH, OUR TEAM HAS BEEN DEPLOYED, IT'S BEEN, UH, 22 DAYS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IF IT, EVERYTHING GOT APPROVED TODAY, PROBABLY 24 DAYS, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SERVING ON THOSE TEAMS? YOU MENTIONED THREE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, EVERY MONTH THEY CREATE A, A DEPLOYMENT ROSTER.
AND WHEN THEY GET READY TO DEPLOY, THEY REACH OUT TO US AND SAY, HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, WHO CAN YOU, UH, ALLOW TO GO? WE HAVE IT FLUCTUATES.
I THINK OUR NUMBER NOW, RIGHT NOW IS NINE TOTAL DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL THAT ARE PART OF THE FEMA TEAM.
SO CERTAINLY PROUD OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE PART OF OUR, FROM OUR ORGANIZATION.
BUT THE ENTIRE TEAM, I MEAN THIS TEAM IS, IS ONE OF THE MOST, WELL-RESPECTED MM-HMM.
THEY'VE DEPLOYED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AND, UH, THEY'RE A VERY ACTIVE TEAM.
THANKS FOR THE UPDATE ON THAT.
WE'LL KEEP 'EM IN OUR PRAYERS AND BEST OF WISHES.
UM, I DUNNO IF ANYBODY ELSE SAID, BUT I HAD THE, THE, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN RE ADOPTION MAYBE, AND WITH THE STORM COMING THROUGH, IT'S VERY TIMELY AND THERE'S A LOT TO COVER THERE.
BUT THE BIGGEST QUESTION I HAVE, AND, AND I KNOW THIS WAS AN IMPACT A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE PATH OF THE STORM, WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM LIKE THAT COMING THROUGH ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IS DIRECTIONS ABOUT, UH, EVACUATION, WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
BUT REALITY IS NOT EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO EVACUATE FOR, FOR A VARIETY OF OF REASONS.
SO JUST THINKING HERE AT HOME, WE SEE A STORM LIKE THAT AND WE KNOW THERE'RE GONNA BE A PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO EVACUATE ELSEWHERE.
HOW, HOW IS THE COUNTY POSITIONED TO HELP? WE GOT, WE GOT SHELTERS PEOPLE CAN GO TO.
JUST WHAT, WHAT'S OUR POSTURE FOR THE FOLKS THAT CAN'T EVENT I, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PERSONNEL THAT'S GONNA STILL BE HERE.
'CAUSE NOT LIKE COUNTY STAFF AND YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN JUST UP AND LEAVE EITHER.
SO HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T LEAVE? SO, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE AREA IF POSSIBLE, IF THEY ARE IN A RISK AREA, RIGHT? SO THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HAMPTON ROADS, LOCALITIES IDENTIFIED, UH, STORM SURGE, UH, EVACUATION ZONES.
AND IF YOU GO TO KNOW YOUR ZONE VIRGINIA, OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND GO TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND GO TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YOUR COUNTY, YOU CAN GO AND IDENTIFY, PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN, AND YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT STORM SURGE ZONE EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE IN.
AND WE MAKE DECISIONS ON, BASED ON GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ON WHICH AREAS SHOULD BE EVA EVACUATED.
UH, MOST PEOPLE THAT DIE IN HURRICANES DIE BECAUSE OF STORM SURGE.
OR IN THE CASE OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THIS STORM, UH, THE MOST DEATHS HAVE OCCURRED IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA.
AND THAT WASN'T BECAUSE OF A STORM SURGE ZONE OFF THE OCEAN.
THAT WAS BECAUSE OF INLAND STORM SURGE FLOODING, FLASH FLOODING, UH, THAT OCCURRED, UH, WITH THE RIVERS IN THE MOUNTAINS IN, IN THE ASHEVILLE, GREATER ASHEVILLE AREA.
SO WE WOULD IDENTIFY WHAT AREAS ARE, UH, SHOULD BE EVACUATED.
UH, SO YOU RUN FROM, FROM THE WATER AND HIDE FROM THE WIND.
UH, WE KNOW YOU CAN'T EVACUATE ALL OF HAMPTON ROADS.
YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, EVACUATED ALL THE HAMPTON ROADS.
THAT'S WHY THESE ZONES WERE ESTABLISHED MANY YEARS AGO.
UH, AND THEY'VE BEEN ADJUSTED OVER OVER THE YEARS.
BUT OUR BIGGEST IN OUR, IN YOUR COUNTY'S CASE, OUR BIGGEST RISK AREA IS FOR STORM SURGE AND FLOODING IS THE SOUTHERN SOUTH, SOUTHEAST PART OF, UH, WHETHER IT'S IN DANDY SEAFORD THERE AND IN CATHOLICS NECK CARIES CHAPEL AREA TAB, UH, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SHELTERS EARLIER.
UH, WE, UH, DO PARTNER WITH KOSIN AND KOSIN USES OUR SHELTERS.
THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT TO IT AS WELL.
BUT I MEAN, SIMPLY BECAUSE KOSIN, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S VERY EASILY FLOODED.
SO, UH, AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS THE OVERARCHING PLAN FOR DISASTER
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OPERATIONS, NOT ONLY FOR WEATHER EVENTS, BUT THINGS LIKE AN INCIDENT THAT MAY OCCUR AT CERTAIN NUCLEAR POWER STATION, A TERRORISM TYPE OF INCIDENT.SO, YOU KNOW, HAZARDS, LARGE SCALE, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INCIDENT, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL HAZARD SPECIFIC ANNEXES, ANNEXES, A HURRICANE DISASTER RESPONSE PLAN, A RADIOLOGICAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN THAT'S DONE REGIONALLY, THOSE REGIONS.
SO, SO YOU, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN I SAID EVACUATION, YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT THE LOW LINE AREA, THE PEOPLE IN THE FLOOD ZONES, WHICH IS A GOOD POINT.
UM, 'CAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LIVING ON THE POCOS RIVER AND YOU'RE AT SEA LEVEL, THE STORM COMES THROUGH, YOU'RE GONNA BE UNDER WATER WHETHER YOU MOVE OR NOT, YOU GONNA BE UNDER WATER.
I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF PEOPLE WHO CAMP UP AND DRIVE OUT PAST RICHMOND, OUT TO BRISTOL TO RELOCATE AND SET IN THE STORM FOR A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS IN A HOTEL ROOM AND THEN MAKE THEIR WAY BACK HOME.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST AREN'T IN THAT POSITION.
SO WELL THOSE PEOPLE GO, ALRIGHT, I'LL, I'LL DRIVE, I'LL GET OUT OF MY MY PROPERTY 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S GONNA GET FLOODED, BUT I CAN'T, I I CAN'T DRIVE TO BRISTOL.
SO WHAT, WHAT AM I TO DO? YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE SHELTERS FOR THOSE FOLKS? HOW WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT POPULATION HERE? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HELP THOSE FOLKS? GOOD, GOOD POINT.
SO WHEN WE EVACUATE AN AREA, SAY FOR HURRICANE, WE IDENTIFY WHAT SHELTERS GONNA OPEN.
UH, MOST OFTEN THEY WOULD BE SCHOOLS, GRAFTON SCHOOL COMPLEX OR THE TAB HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX WITH THE GENERATOR CAPABILITY AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL.
NOW WE COULD USE THAT, BUT NORMALLY WE WOULD IDENTIFY THE OPENING OF ONE SHELTER INITIALLY, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO EXPAND IT, WE WOULD.
BUT THAT'S A JOINT OP AND THAT'S A JOINT OPERATION.
I MEAN, FARM LIFE SAFETY DOESN'T DO ALL THAT.
IT'S SOCIAL SERVICES, IT'S COMMUNITY SERVICES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO WE WOULD IDENTIFY WHAT SHELTERS ARE, OPEN PUB, PUBLIC SHELTERS, UH, AND THE PUBLIC CAN CERTAINLY GO THERE.
UH, OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, THE NUMBER OF SHELTERS NEEDED HAS NOT BEEN SIGNIFICANT, BUT WE NEVER KNOW IF IT'S A CATEGORY FOUR STORM OR THREE STORM.
WE, WHAT WE JUST SAW, UH, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE WILL EVACUATE AND THEY, AND SOMETIMES IT IS, UH, THEY DON'T ALWAYS PUBLIC MAY NOT ALWAYS HEED EVACUATION UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE WHEN THEY REALIZE IT'S GONNA, AND IT, AND IT IS TOO LATE TO GET OUTTA TOWN.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT OUT ON THE INTERSTATE AT THAT POINT.
WELL WE, WE, UH, OUR PUBLIC SHELTERS ARE SCHOOLS.
UH, AND IN THE LIMITED CASES WE DEVELOPED THIS, UH, ARRANGEMENT WITH THE YMCA, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC ARRANGEMENT.
UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF IF WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE ENTIRE SCHOOL TO BE OPERATIONAL AND WE MAY VERY WELL OPERATE JUST YMCA OR IF THE SHELTER POPULATION REDUCES AFTER SUN COMES OUT, PEOPLE GO BACK HOME AND WE ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL OF FOLKS WE MAY REVERT TO THAT, THAT SORT OF THING.
ALL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS UTOPIAN VISION WHERE EVERYBODY'S GONNA UP AND LEAVE IN, IN ORDERLY FASHION 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ANY COMMENTS? I JUST, UH, ONE QUESTION.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF, UH, DOWN WHERE I LIVE, I OFF CALOR NECK AND MOST OF, UH, WE HAD ALL OF OC IN EVACUATION ZONE ONE, WHICH MEANS THAT'S THE FIRST, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT.
AND IT'S LIKE THE FIRST TO GET OUT.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE IN SEAFORD AND PLACES LIKE THAT LOW NEED, LOW LINE AREA, YOU, YOU GOTTA LEAVE.
UM, TIED TO THAT IS A DECLARATION BY THE GOVERNOR OF, UH, STATE OF EMERGENCY.
AND FOR US HERE, UH, A STORM COMING UP THE COAST, HE HAS TO MAKE THAT DECLARATION WHEN THE STORM'S DOWN IN JACKSONVILLE.
SO, AND THEN PEOPLE KIND OF SIT AROUND NOW WE'RE KIND OF WAITING AND SEE WHICH WAY THE THING'S GOING OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE, UM, I DID MAKE A MOTION.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, YOU SAID CALENDAR.
WE CAN SAY CALENDAR AND ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS AMENDED.
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LAST AGENDA ITEM.MRS. DOLE, WE'LL TALK WITH YOU.
I THINK I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THIS PAMPHLET THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, WE HAD HAD A, AN OLDER PAMPHLET, BUT
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CHRISTIE AND HER STAFF HAD PUT TOGETHER A, A NEWER ONE WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT.AND THE, THE IMPETUS FOR THIS WAS THAT I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CHAMBER CAO MEETING AND IT WAS ON SMALL BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH.
AND I WANTED TO SHOW THEM WHAT WE REALLY WOULD DO IN YOUR COUNTY.
SO, CHRISTIE, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT AT ALL? SURE.
UM, AND IF I COULD JUST VERY BRIEFLY, UM, UM, JUST GIVE SOME CONTEXT, UH, TO THE BROCHURE.
UH, TWO YEARS AGO, OR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN OUR, UM, OFFICES, UH, MERGED, WHEN TOURISM MERGED WITH OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR, UM, PROGRAMS, UM, AND EFFORTS, UH, WERE PRETTY MUCH DORMANT COMING OUT OF COVID.
UM, GRANT PROGRAMS WEREN'T SEEING, UH, RESULTS, RIBBON CUTTINGS WEREN'T HAPPENING 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES AND BROCHURES SUCH AS THESE HADN'T BEEN UPDATED, UM, IN YEARS.
SO, AND YEAR ONE, WE REALLY, OUR DEPARTMENT TOOK A VERY, VERY STRONG FOCUS IN, UM, HELPING BUSINESSES FIND INFORMATION EASIER ON OUR WEBSITE, WHERE THEY WERE AT, WHAT STAGE THEY WERE AT AS A BUSINESS, WHETHER THEY WERE AN EXISTING BUSINESS OR A NEW BUSINESS.
AND SO WE DID A COMPLETE REVAMP, UM, OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE SO THAT WHEN THEY CAME RIGHT INTO THAT PORTAL, IT WAS, IF YOU'RE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO AND THIS IS WHAT INFORMATION WE WANNA GET TO YOU.
AND IF YOU'RE A NEW BUSINESS, THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.
YEAR TWO HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT IMPROVING COMMUNICATIONS WITH BUSINESSES.
UM, THAT IS AN AREA, UM, I HAVE A LITTLE OF EXPERIENCE WITH FROM THE MARKETING SIDE OF THINGS.
SO YEAR TWO HAS BEEN OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES GETTING IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES, MARKETING TO THE BUSINESSES SO THEY KNOW WHAT SERVICES WE HAVE TO OFFER THEM.
UM, SO JOINTLY, UM, WHEN MS. NOEL DISCOVERED THIS OLD BROCHURE, THAT WAS WAY BEFORE MY TIME, UH, THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION HAD PUT TOGETHER, UH, YEARS AGO, WHICH I'D LIKE.
UM, AND MOST OF THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE IN DIGITAL FORMAT ON ALL OF OUR WEBSITES.
NOT JUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUES OFFICE AS WELL AS SUSAN'S TEAM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE IT.
AND NOT ONLY IS IT IN PRINT FORM TO BE IN OUR LIBRARIES OR CHAMBERS, IT'S IN A FLIP BOOK FORM ON OUR WEBSITE AS AS WELL.
SO IT KIND OF GIVES THAT CHECKLIST DOES NOT REPLACE THE DEVELOPMENT GUIDE THAT'S WAY MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, FOR BUSINESSES.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED IN RELAUNCHING ALL OF OUR GRANT PROGRAMS, INCREASING THE FUNDING TO BUSINESSES THIS YEAR, OFFERING NEW GRANTS, IS THAT PRINT IS NOT DEAD.
AND 90% OF THE WORLD IS RECEIVING HUNDREDS OF EMAILS A DAY AND THEIR INBOX.
SO WE WENT BACK TO DIRECT MAIL PIECES AND THEN SINCE JULY ONE, 90% OF THE GRANT REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN ARE FROM A MAIL PIECE TO THEIR BUSINESS AND NOT ANY EMAIL OR ANY DIGITAL FORM THAT WE'VE SENT THEM.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE BASIS BEHIND HAVING IT AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS ON A PRINT PIECE.
SO, SO THANK YOU ALL DOING IT.
YOU DID IT IN A, IN A REAL HURRY AND I APPRECIATED THAT.
DIDN'T I LEARN EARLIER TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE TO EMBRACE AI AND MOVE FORWARD AND THEN I GIVE YOU PAPER USEFUL IN THE FUTURE, BUT, BUT IT, BUT IT, BUT THEY'RE ALL HERE.
THE ADDRESSES, THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS, WEBSITE, EVERYTHING.
BUT, BUT AS WE LEARN, ALWAYS STILL WORK TOO.
PUT, PUT SOMETHING IN SOMEBODY'S HAND, THEY GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN READ? I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH FOR JANET TODAY.
I HAVE TWO ITEMS. UH, WE COULD GO SATURDAY.
I WAS AT, UH, AT NIGHT IN THE MUSEUM, WHICH WAS A FUNDRAISER FOR LOCKHEED CLINIC.
UH, TREMENDOUS, UH, TREMENDOUS JOB OF FUNDRAISING FOR THE CLINIC.
AND THEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF PRESENTING THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
WHICH CLINIC WAS THIS LACK LACKING.
AND, UM, I, I, MY MY THANKS GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S VERY GENEROUS SUPPORT OF LACK CLINIC.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT KIND OF MONEY RULING IN FOR, UH, FOR THAT EVENT, UH, THAT THAT IS CRITICAL FOR THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO SEE THAT THAT'S THE FIRST RATE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS AT THE MUSEUM, WASN'T IT? IT WAS IN THE MUSEUM THE NIGHT IN THE MUSEUM.
UM, AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND POINT, UM, YORKTOWN LIBRARY, UM, GOT TOGETHER WITH, UH, FRIENDS OF THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY FOUNDATION.
AND WE HAD A MEETING, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL ALSO IN FUNDRAISING.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE A FOUNDATION AS A CAPITAL FUND NOW OF FOUR TO $5 MILLION.
AND THEY, AND THEY PROVIDE 5% OF THAT EVERY YEAR BACK.
THIS IS WHAT FOUNDATION? IT'S, THIS IS REGIONAL LIBRARY REGIONAL FRIENDS OF THE REGIONAL LIBRARY FOUNDATION.
AND THEY PROVIDE 5% OF IT BACK TO THE LIBRARIES.
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IN, IN, UH, IN, UH, JCC WILLIAMSBURG FOR E EBOOK SUBSCRIPTIONS, UH, ANY NEW CAPITAL FACILITIES.UM, THEY'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THE, IN THE KIDS STUDIO.
UH, AND IT, IT IS JUST, IT'S STRIKING HOW MUCH THEY ARE ABLE TO POUR BACK INTO THE LIBRARIES.
AND SO KEVIN AND HIS STAFF AND, AND A NUMBER OF THE, UH, COUNTY STAFF GOT TOGETHER AND LISTENED TO THAT APPROACH.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO ENHANCE OUR BOARD AND BEGIN TO GO DOWN THAT PATH OF, UH, OF CREATING A SIMILAR TYPE OF FOUNDATION.
IT'S JUST, WE CAN'T NOT CREATIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY JUST BUILDING ON IT.
AND, AND WE NEED TO BE, UH, SUCCESSFUL.
'CAUSE THERE'S A MODEL TO FOLLOW.
AND WE THIS DIFFERENCE IN THE LIBRARY BOARD.
IT'S D WE SET, WE SET UP THE FOUNDATION WHEN WE OPEN THE TAB LIBRARY.
BUT NOBODY REALLY GOT INTO IT AS THEY SHOULD HAVE TO RUN IT AND TO RAISE FUNDS.
SO THIS, THIS IS A REBIRTH OF IT.
I HOPE IT'LL BE A REBIRTH AND I'M GONNA DRIVE IT.
THAT'S WHAT I SAY, DRIVE THE BUS.
UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY THE OLD POPS AND SEEN THAT THE YES.
THE ROOF HAS BEEN RAISED AND THERE'S, UH, SOME PROGRESS GOING ON.
I WENT, WENT BY THERE AND TALKED WITH THE OWNERS ON SATURDAY, I GUESS IT WAS, AND, UH, TOOK A QUICK TOUR AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT PROGRESS.
AND SO THEY'RE EXCITED AND GONNA TRY TO MOVE AS QUICKLY ALONG AS THEY CAN NOW.
UH, I THINK HE SAID THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO START YESTERDAY.
IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S IN A RUBBERIZED ROOF, SO, OH, IT'S, IT NOT THE TENANT WAS CONCEALED.
NO, I DON'T THINK THEY HAD A TENANT.
SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE UNDERWAY.
AND HE SAID ONCE THAT'S OUT OF THEIR WAY, THEN THEY CAN JUST REALLY MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S EXCITED TO START SEEING SOME PROGRESS THERE, SO THAT'S GOOD.
UM, AND UH, THE SECOND THING IS, I SHOULD HAVE WROTE IT DOWN THAT I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, SHOOT, BE.
NO, IT'S NOT JUST NO, IT'S NOT.
SEE ACTUALLY Y'ALL SITTING TOGETHER.
ALRIGHT, MS, LET'S START OVER.
UM, I, WELL, A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK.
UM, THE, UM, THE, THE HURRICANE CAME THROUGH WAS, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY DISTURBING.
UM, AND THAT THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, HAD ME UP IN THE MOUNTAINS A LOT.
I COULD THINK OF, WHERE'S ALL THAT WATER GONNA GO? NOW WE KNOW.
NOW OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE TAUGHT MYSELF BLUE IN THE FACE WITH MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT PREPARATION.
UM, NOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO 2003.
AND ISABELLE WAS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT, I THINK IT WAS THE 1932 OR 33 STORM.
OKAY? UH, SEEMS LIKE EVERY 60 YEARS OR SO, WE GET ONE OF THESE BIG STORMS THAT COMES THROUGH.
AND IT'S PEOPLE, I REMEMBER PEOPLE TALKING, THE PEOPLE WERE AT THE LIBRARY ONE DAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND THIS LADY TOLD ME THAT HER DAD TIED HER TO A TREE.
UH, SO THAT BECAUSE, AND THEY LIVED IN SEAFORD SOMEWHERE DOWN THERE.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO PEOPLE IN SEAFORD.
AND SO WE HAD PEOPLE IN BOATS GOING DOWN HILL CREEK PARKWAY.
ANYWAY, IT'S, BUT THE, IT'S, IT IS THE FLOOD.
OKAY? UM, SO MY BROTHER LIVES IN FLORIDA, DOWN AROUND TAMPA, AND THEY, FLORIDA GETS ALL THE HURRICANES COME UP ONE SIDE OR DOWN THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, NEW ORLEANS, WE'VE SEEN ALL THAT.
AND I'VE, HE, YOU KNOW, AND HE, HE GETS OUTTA THE WAY AND ALL THAT.
WELL, THIS TIME, UH, THE SURGE, UH, HE ENDED UP WITH TWO FEET OR TWO OR THREE FEET OF WATER IN HIS HOUSE.
AND HE DID SEND THE PICTURES AND IT DESTROYED THE INSIDE OF HIS HOUSE.
I MEAN, MOST OF THE HOUSES, THERE ARE LITERALLY ONE STORY, OKAY? AND SO, I MEAN, I GOT PICTURES HERE, ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE 'EM, BUT IT, IT TOOK EVERYTHING OUT IN HIS HOUSE, OKAY? NOW, THE PROBLEM WAS THAT HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE.
EVERYBODY DOWN THE STREET GOT THE SAME THING.
THERE WERE A FEW TWO STORY BUILDINGS, BUT EVEN THOSE FOLKS GOT REALLY HAMMERED.
AND, AND I KEPT THINKING, AND I LOOKED AT THE PICTURES AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL TO ME.
BUT THE THING IS, I LOOKED AT THAT DAMAGE AND HOW INCONVENIENT THAT IS.
AND I THINK OF THE PICTURES THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF, UH, OF NORTH CAROLINA AND WHERE WHOLE COMMUNITIES ARE GONE, OKAY? YOU THINK OF LIKE RUNNING MAN OR COVENTRY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTIES IS CLEAN, WIPE CLEAN.
AND, UH, THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PREPARE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, TRY TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PREPARE FOR IT.
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UM, IN OUR AREA HERE, UH, JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE MY NUMBERS ARE.NOW, UH, IN, IN CONSTRUCTION, AND YOU MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT ON THE COAST, THEY BUILT A HOUSE FOR WIND SPEED OF, UH, UH, I THINK THE STANDARD IS 115 MILES AN HOUR, OKAY? UH, INLAND, THE TEMP, THE TEMPERATURE, THE, THE, THE WIND SPEED IS THE HOUSE IS BUILT TO 95 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, AND WE RARELY, UH, EVEN, EVEN, UH, ISABEL WHEN IT CAME THROUGH, UH, ONLY BRIEFLY HIT CATEGORY ONE LEVEL 'CAUSE IT, IT HAD BEEN A FIVE, IT WAS A WHOPPER OF A STORM.
IT CAME THROUGH AND IT CRASHED A LOT OF THE PLACES.
I MEAN, IT CUT DOWN POWER DOWN THE HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
THE TELEPHONE POLES LITERALLY CUT IN HALF.
I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS A MESS.
AND PEOPLE WERE BEING LIKE, YOU WERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, PEOPLE COMING OUT WITH THEIR FOOD AND HELPING EACH OTHER OUT.
BUT THE POINT WAS THAT, AS BAD AS THAT WAS, IF IT HAD GOTTEN TO A LEVEL TWO MM-HMM,
'CAUSE IT WOULD'VE RIPPED IT, THE BUILDINGS DOWN.
A THREE WOULD TAKE OUT ALL THE PROPERTY.
AND IF YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND CATEGORY FIVE WHEN IT HITS LIKE HOMESTEAD, UH, IN FLORIDA, IT LEVELED THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, LITERALLY LEVELED EVERYTHING.
IT WAS UP TO THE PILE OF STUFF.
SO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED, OKAY? WE'RE ALREADY COMING INTO THE END OF THE HURRICANE SEASON, BUT YOU NEED PREPARE.
UH, YOU HAVE GENERATORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
WHERE AM I? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? WHERE AM I GOING TO GO? UM, IF YOU GOT THE, THE PEOPLE I REMEMBER AND ISABELLE THAT LIVED DOWN IN POCOS, AND, AND A FRIEND OF MINE, SHE CAME OUT OF THE HOUSE AND SHE WAS UP TO HER CHEST IN WATER TRYING TO GET OUT OF HER NEIGHBORHOOD JUST, AND TRY TO WALK OUT.
THE CAR WAS GONE, EVERYTHING WAS FLOODED.
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO JUST TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU DON'T WANNA FIND YOURSELF IN THAT SITUATION BUYING BUCKETS OF WATER, OR EXCUSE ME, BOTTLES OF WATER BUYING BATTERIES AND EVERYTHING'S COOL.
BUT MA'AM, WHEN THAT FLOOD COMES IN, IT TAKES YOU ALL OUT.
SO, UH, I MEAN, I'M NOW PERSONALLY DEALING WITH MY BROTHER'S SITUATION DOWN THERE, AND FORTUNATELY HE'S OKAY, HIS PROPERTY'S SCREWED UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR, AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS, AND ISABEL, EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE INSURANCE WAS GONNA COOL.
I TAKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS DEDUCTIBLE AND THAT WAS IT.
NO, THEY HAD CHANGED THE RULES ON THE DEDUCTIBLE TO 10% OF THE VALUE OF THE HOME.
SO IF YOU LIVE AT A $500,000 HOME, 400,000 HOME, TAKE 10% IS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO, IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO USE AS A DEDUCTIBLE TO, UH, TO PAY FOR THE DAMAGE AND BE READY FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THAT PRESENTS ANOTHER PROBLEM.
ALRIGHT? YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY REFRIGERATORS AND DRYERS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, AND THE, AND, AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, THIS IS SOMETHING TO BE REALLY, REALLY AWARE OF.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INSURANCE CLAIMS THAT ARE, THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES BEING SUED BECAUSE THE ADJUSTERS THAT THEY HIRE ARE BASICALLY CERTIFIED BY THE STATE TO BE THE ADJUSTER.
OKAY? THEY COME IN, THEY SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO FIX AND REPAIR YOUR DAMAGE.
IT THEN IS GIVEN THAT THAT IS GIVEN TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, THOSE NUMBERS GET CHANGED.
SO, AND I SAW THE EXAMPLES WHEN THEY HAD THAT ON THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY WHERE THE HOUSE, THE GUY SAID ESSENTIALLY HOUSE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REBUILT.
THE COST ESTIMATE WENT IN $488,000 AND I THINK THE INSURANCE COMPANY OFFERED $13,000.
OKAY? AND SO THEN YOU GOTTA WAIT THAT PAYMENT TO COME IN.
BUT IF YOU'VE THEN GOTTA PAY THE ADJUSTER FOR PART OF THAT, WHICH IS ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND ANYWAY, IT GETS TO BE NOTHING.
AND, AND SO YOU, WHEN YOU IN THESE SITUATIONS, YOU NEED TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION.
AND WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GET A COPY OF THE INSURANCE ADJUSTERS, UH, OR THE EVALUATORS, UM, UH, STATEMENTS.
AND YOU HAVE THAT BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE READY TO GO AND DEFEND YOURSELF, OR YOU MIGHT FIND YOURSELF REALLY ON THE SHORT END OF THE STICK.
SO THERE'S PROBLEMS THAT YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TO SURVIVE THE STORM, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET HELP, GET YOUR PROPERTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS MY BROTHER'S DOING RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT, 'CAUSE THEY GOT THESE TRAILERS THAT THE FEMA RENTS THE TRAILERS, AND, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE 'EM ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS WHOLE NICE STREET DOWN NEAR, NEAR THE GULF, PEOPLE ARE ALL LIVING IN THESE BEAUTIFUL HOMES.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TRAILERS ALL UP DOWN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THEIR PROPERTY DONE.
OKAY? THAT SUBJECT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OFF AND ON, AND I TALKED TO KRISTEN NELSON AND WE DID THE TOUR.
YOU SAW THE TOUR AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'VE ALL KNOW FOR YEARS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN THERE AND THERE'S SOME EFFORTS YOU COVERED.
I, YEAH, I WROTE IT DOWN THIS TIME.
SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS AT THE COURTHOUSE.
AND, AND I, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS,
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I HAD BEEN ON TOUR BEFORE DOWN THERE AND BEEN UP DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL OLD DOCUMENTS AND ALL THIS STUFF.SEE DOCUMENTS IN THERE THAT WERE IN THE 17 HUNDREDS, EARLY 1700, WELL, THE 16 HUNDREDS.
AND, AND YOU LOOK AT THE PENMANSHIP AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
BUT ANYWAY, BEAUTIFUL PENMANSHIP.
I I HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY IN THE LIBRARY THAT WE COULD TAKE AT LEAST ONE OF THESE BOOKS AND JUST OPEN IT UP AND LET PEOPLE COME AND SEE RIGHT THERE, THESE PEOPLE, THE, THE NAMES, THE, IT COULD BE LAND PROPERTY, PART OF THAT, AND JUST DEMON JUST SHOW THIS, IT WOULD BE THIS INCREDIBLE THING.
OF COURSE, KRISTEN'S GOTTA GOTTA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TURN LOOSE IN THE BOOK.
AND, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE IN ITSELF.
BUT ANYWAY, THERE THE POINT, AND THIS IS THAT THE TOUR I WENT TO THIS TIME AND THE TOUR AGAIN, THIS WAS EVEN BETTER BECAUSE I GOT A LOT MORE INFORMATION OUT OF IT AND I GOT TO SEE ALL THREE OF THE COURTS.
AND, UH, IT WAS, IT TALKED TO ALL THE FOLKS THERE.
UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SHE BROUGHT UP JUST SCARES THE CRAP OUT ME AND, AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IS SOMEBODY WOULD COME IN AND SELL YOUR PROPERTY OUT FROM UNDER YOU.
WE, WE HEAR THIS A LOT ON, YOU KNOW, GET LIFELOCK OR COUPLE THE OTHER COMPANIES.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL JUST SAY RIGHT UP FRONT, THESE COMPANIES DO NOT PREVENT THE FRAUD.
ALL THEY DO IS HELP YOU GET OUT OF IT.
THEY LOAN IT, THEY DON'T PREVENT THE FRAUD.
OKAY? SO THE QUESTION IS HOW, HOW DO YOU, IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR PROPERTY BEING SOLD OUT FROM UNDER YOU? NOW THERE'S BEEN THREE CASES HERE IN THIS, IN THIS COURT SYSTEM HERE, CIRCUIT COURT WHERE THE, A ATTEMPT WAS MADE, ONE OF 'EM WAS SUCCESSFUL, IT WENT THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND THE, THE DEED WAS RECORDED BY STATE LAWS, JUST SAYS THAT YOU GOTTA RECORD THESE THINGS.
AND IT WAS RECORDED AND IT WAS A FRAUDULENT SALE OF PROPERTY.
THE ONLY WAY THE PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY REALIZED THAT THE, THAT, THAT THERE WAS A SALE IS THE NEIGHBOR CALLED HER AND SAID, HEY, WHY IS, ARE, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE SELLING YOUR PROPERTY.
AND SHE GOES, WHY? BECAUSE SHE'D SEEN PEOPLE WALKING AROUND ON THE PROPERTY ONLY FIND OUT THAT SHE GOES, I'M NOT SELLING THE PROPERTY.
SO SHE DOES A LITTLE RESEARCH, FINDS OUT THAT IT TURNS OUT TO BE FRAUD.
SHE CONTACTS THE POLICE OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE COURTS GOT INVOLVED AND THEY SHUT IT DOWN.
OKAY? BUT THE OTHER TWO GOT SHUT DOWN BEFORE THEY COULD PROGRESS MUCH FURTHER INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND IT ALL DEALT AROUND THINGS LIKE NOTARIES.
UH, IF YOU ARE AN OUT-OF-STATE NOTARY, THE ONE THAT GOT THROUGH THE SYSTEM WAS USING A NEW JERSEY NOTARY.
AND, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THEY GOT IT NOTARIZED.
OKAY? THE OTHER TWO WERE DOING LOCAL NOTARIES.
AND THEY, WHAT THEY DO HERE NOW IS THEY CALL THE NOTARY WHEN THEY SEE IT, THEY CALL THE NOTARY AND THEY ASK 'EM, DID YOU REDO THIS? AND IF THEY, AND THEY FOUND THAT TWO CASES THEY DID, AND SO THERE WAS A FRAUDULENT AND THEY THEN REPORT IT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND STOPS IT.
SO THE SYSTEM THEY'RE USING NOW IS, I WOULD SAY MANAGED OR BELONGS TO THE STATE THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT.
VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH.
AND WHAT SHE IS PROPOSING, AND SHE'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, IS, UH, FOR OTHER REASONS TOO, IS A, UM, SHE WANTS TO GET A COMMERCIAL.
UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE USING NOW COMMERCIAL FILE LETTERS OKAY.
SYSTEMS, AND DO THE FILING FOR, AND IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.
AND FOR ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, IT HELPS IDENTIFY THESE FRAUDULENT CASES EARLIER SO THAT IF YOU GET IT IDENTIFIED EARLY, YOU CAN THEN TAKE ON, TAKE ON THE ACTION.
SO IT DOESN'T GET INTO WHERE YOU'RE HAVING TO HIRE MORE LAWYERS AND IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE.
UH, THAT'S THE SAD PART OF IT.
BUT, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF NOTARY FRAUD THAT'S A PART OF THE ISSUE.
UM, IT, I MEAN IT'S JUST, I MEAN, THAT WAS A WHOLE LIST.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT IT JUST, IT HELPS, UH, THAT, THAT WHAT SHE'S, SHE'S CAME BACK FROM LIKE A CLERK, I WOULD CALL IT THE CLERK'S, UH, CONFERENCE CONFERENCE.
AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO DO THESE THINGS.
AND IT MAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS.
UH, THERE IS A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT YOU CAN USE, AND ALL IT DOES IS TELLS YOU IF THERE'S A NEW DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN FILED IN YOUR NAME.
BUT YOU HAVE TO THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN INTO IT.
YOU CAN'T SEE THE DOCUMENT UNLESS YOU GO TO THE COURTHOUSE.
OKAY? BUT IT WILL LIST, YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE AND IT WILL GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST BULKY AS HELL TO GET THROUGH IT.
I'M NOT GONNA EVEN TRY TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU, BUT, UH, IT'S THERE.
IN FACT, THIS IS THE SHEET OF INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU FOLLOW TO READ THE SYSTEM TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMETHING'S BEEN FILED IN YOUR NAME THAT'S IN THE COURTHOUSE.
SO, UM, BUT ANYWAY, I TOLD, I TOLD HER, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS SUBJECT, AFTER WE SEEN THE THING ABOUT SPACE, SAW THE THING ABOUT PRESERVING OUR DOCUMENTS, I MEAN, THERE'S STILL SOME OLD, OLD DOCUMENTS THAT ARE JUST PILED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THERE.
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SHE'S USING GRANTS TO GET STUFF, AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF HAVING THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNTY, I THINK THE COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN TRYING TO LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT OUR SYSTEM'S PROFICIENT, MAKE SURE THAT IT PROTECTS OUR CITIZENS.AND SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOME FIGURES, COME UP, TALK TO, TALK TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND MAYBE SOMEWHERE, MAYBE NEXT YEAR, WHATEVER, COME TALK TO US OKAY.
COMING FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND, AND LET US KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS NOW THE TIME BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HER INTEREST AND DON'T LET IT PASS.
SO THE, THE, SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB WITH WHAT SHE'S GOT.
IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE IS A WAY YOU CAN FIGURE OUT IF SOMEBODY'S MESSING AROUND WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, I'D SUGGEST TO YOU IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
YEAH, I, UM, I HAD, I HAD A COUPLE OF FOLKS REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT USING A PROPERTY LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S BEEN BETTER THAN A YEAR AGO.
I REACHED OUT TO MRS. NELSON ABOUT, WELL, HOW, HOW CAN YOU WORK THIS? SO SHE STARTED LOOKING INTO IT AND MAKING PHONE CALLS, GOING TO THOSE CONFERENCES AND TRYING TO WORK THE SUPREME COURT.
BUT THEY, SUPREME COURT OWNS A LOT OF THE DATA, A LOT OF ACCESS TO THAT DATA.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT PATH TO IT.
SO SHE'S WAS VERY ENCUMBERED OF WHAT SHE CAN DO, BUT SHE DOES HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE NOW THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN IT WAS.
UM, AND REALLY THE, THE BIGGEST PART OF IT IS JUST BEING SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, MAKING SURE YOU DON'T GET BLINDSIDED BY SOMEBODY PULLING THAT CRAP ON YOU.
UM, AND I JUST SORT OF ALSO, I GUESS I SHOULD STATE THAT THE, THIS, THIS BOARD DOES NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU RIDE OUT A HURRICANE BY TIE YOURSELF TO A, TO A TREE.
UM, THERE WAS A LAW IN 1932 AS, AS THE, UH, COME TO ZE IT AS A GREAT RON, RON WHITE WOULD SAY, IT'S NOT THAT THE WIND BLOWS, IT'S WHAT THE WIND BLOWS.
SO THIS, ANYWAY, UM, HEY, SO REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA SHARE.
LAST WEDNESDAY, UM, SHERIFF MONTGOMERY, HIS DEPARTMENT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD A JOINT PUBLIC FORUM TO TALK ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY ISSUES AND HOW THEY'RE ADDRESSING IT AND PLANS WITH FUTURE AND SO FORTH.
AND, UH, THAT WAS DONE UP AT THE NEW SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE NEW COMMUNITY ROOM.
I DON'T WANNA SAY ABOUT 50 PEOPLE CAME AND ATTENDED.
TOMORROW MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SAME COMMUNITY ROOM.
THERE'S NATIONAL COFFEE WITH A COP DAY.
SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP TO THE OFFICE.
THAT'S A GREAT REASON, REASON TO GO UP THERE.
AND I KIND OF WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE, THE, THE, UM, THE, THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT THAT NEW BUILDING BRINGS TO THE COUNTY.
NOT JUST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT I, I, I HAVE BEEN THERE.
I I'VE BEEN TO THE SERVICE OFFICE MORE TIMES HERE THIS PAST YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE BECAUSE SO MANY, SO MANY THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I, I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE SCARED OF PEOPLE LIKE GOING, WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WRONG? YOU'RE GOING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING THERE.
SO IT OFFERS A LOT OF UTILITY THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.
AND, AND THEY, AND DO IT, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS THEY COULDN'T DO BEFORE.
THEY COULDN'T HAVE THAT FORM THEY HAD LAST WEDNESDAY.
THEY GOING THROUGH A LOT OF
NOW THEY HAVE A PLACE THERE FOR US.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
THINK ABOUT HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TOO.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR THEM TO SCHEDULE, REACH OUT TO 'EM.
IF YOU HAD A COMMUNITY EVENT, AN HOA MEETING, YOU MIGHT NEED TO HAVE LOOKING FOR A PLACE.
CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICER, HEY, CAN I, CAN I USE A COMMUNITY ROOM? SO MAKE USE OF IT.
IT'S THERE TO MAKE, BE MADE USE OF AND, AND IT'S GETTING GOOD USE NOW.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE GOOD FOR THE NIGHT.
UM, I WILL, UM, NOW BRING US INTO ADJOURNMENT NEXT WEEK, NEXT TWO WEEKS.