Sep 17, 2024 Board of Supervisors

SO WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA GO OVER.

[1. Dominion Energy Storm Response Overview: Receive a presentation from Crystal Bright, Dominion Energy.]

THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE FROM, UM, DOMINION ENERGY.

MS. CRYSTAL BRIGHT'S GONNA COME JOIN US TO SHARE WITH US THEIR STORM RESPONSE OVERVIEW.

ME SEE IF I CAN DO THIS WITHOUT MESSING IT UP.

WELL WELCOME.

AND, UM, PODIUM IS YOURS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET

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ARE NOW IN HURRICANE SEASON.

GOOD EVENING BOARD, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TALK ABOUT DOMINION ENERGY STORM RESPONSE PLAN.

UH, I'M GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF DOMINION ENERGY IN YORK COUNTY, HOW WE RESPOND TO NORMAL EVERYDAY EVENTS AND HOW WE RESPOND TO STORMS. BUT FIRST, AS A DOMINION ENERGY EMPLOYEE, I MUST TALK ABOUT SAFETY.

IT'S OUR NUMBER ONE CORE VALUE IS TO WHAT ONE THING THAT WE STRESS DURING STORMS FOR NOT ONLY OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY AWAY FROM ALL DOWN WIRES AND BROKEN POLES.

SO DOMINION ENERGY SERVES ALMOST 2.8 MILLION CUSTOMERS ACROSS VIRGINIA AND NORTH CAROLINA.

THAT'S SEVERAL MILES OF OVERHEAD LINE, UNDERGROUND LINE, SEVERAL DEVICES IN YORK COUNTY.

WE SERVE 33,146 CUSTOMERS.

APPROXIMATELY OF THOSE 126 ARE SPECIAL CONDITION CUSTOMERS.

WHAT ARE SPECIAL CONDITION CUSTOMERS? I LABEL THESE AS CUSTOMERS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY.

SO HOSPITALS, 9 1 1 CENTERS, POLICE, FIRE, RESCUE, UH, PUMPING STATIONS.

UH, THERE'S ABOUT 639 MILES OF DISTRIBUTION LINE OVERHEAD AND UNDERGROUND.

OVER 7,000 TRANSFORMERS.

LOTS OF DEVICES, NINE SUBSTATIONS ARE HERE, AND 95 MILES OF ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINES.

SO ON A NORMAL DAY, UM, DISPATCH WORK COMES TO OUR OFFICE IN NORFOLK.

SO IF YOU WERE TO CALL IN, UH, LIGHTS OUT OR A STREETLIGHT OUT, IT GOES TO OUR OFFICE ON CRIME RAIL DRIVE IN NORFOLK.

UH, IN CENTRAL WE HAVE A REGIONAL OPERATIONS CENTER IN RICHMOND, AND THEN IN NORTHWEST AREA WE HAVE AN OPERATION CENTER IN HERNDON.

THOSE ARE OUR MAIN HUBS.

THEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS CENTER THAT'S SORT OF OUR, UH, MAIN HUB THAT CONTROLS OUR REGIONAL OPERATIONS CENTER THAT DISPATCHES THE WORK.

SO THEY TAKE CONTROL OF TRAINING, THEY TAKE CONTROL OF MAKING SURE MESSAGING IS ALL CONSISTENT.

THEY ARE THE HEAD.

AND THAT'S ALSO IN OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IN RICHMOND.

SO WHERE THE OUTLINE IS, IS OUR, UH, FOOTPRINT FOR EASTERN REGION GOES ALL THE WAY UP FROM OUR WILLIAMSBURG AREA, WHICH ALSO CONTAINS NEW KEN COUNTY AND CHARLES CITY COUNTY DOWN TO NORTH CAROLINA, MANO ALBERT MALL AREA.

AND THE ANALYST THAT DISPATCHES WORK FOR YORK COUNTY HAS THE PENINSULA DISTRICT, WHICH THE DISTRICT HAS FOUR AREAS, HAMPTON, NEWPORT NEWS, POCOS, AND THE LOWER PORTION OF YORK COUNTY.

WILLIAMSBURG DISTRICT HAS, OF COURSE, CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, LIKE I SAID, CHARLES CITY, NEW KENT, AND THE UPPER PORTION OF, UH, YORK COUNTY.

SO IT IS SPLIT.

YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICT OFFICES THAT COVER YOUR AREA.

AND THEN THE, THIS DISPATCHER ALSO COVERS THE WILLIAMSTON DISTRICT IN NORTH CAROLINA.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT COVERAGE AREA LOOKS LIKE, WILLIAMSBURG OFFICE IS ON THE LEFT IN BLUE.

UM, THAT'S THE COVERAGE AREA.

AND THEN PENINSULA OFFICE, UH, WHICH IS BASED IN HAMPTON, THAT'S IN GREEN.

SO WE HAVE EXTERNAL PARTNERSHIPS THAT DOMINION ENERGY, UH, HOLDS QUITE DEARLY.

UM, BESIDES VM VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE'RE ALSO PART OF VEST.

UH, WE LOVE OUR ACRONYMS, VIRGINIA EMERGENCY SUPPORT TEAM.

UH, AND WE ARE PARTICIPATE IN ALL OF THE MOCK STORMS AND ALL THE TRAINING AND ALL THE EXERCISES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE READY TO RESPOND TO STORMS. WE ARE ALSO, UM, IN LEAGUE WITH HERM, WHICH IS THE HAMPTON ROADS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL COM THERE ARE OTHER COMMITTEES LIKE THIS IN CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST, BUT FOR HERE IN EASTERN IS HERM.

AND WE'RE ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHEASTERN ELECTRIC EXCHANGE.

SO WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WHEN THERE IS A LARGE STORM, THESE, UH, MEMBERS, THESE OTHER UTILITIES IN THE SOUTHEASTERN ELECTRIC EXCHANGE WILL GET ON A CONFERENCE CALL AND WE'LL SAY, HEY, DOMINION ENERGY, WE HAVE HURRICANE SHEILA COMING INTO TOWN.

WE'RE GONNA NEED ABOUT 200 BUCKETS.

AND EVERYONE IN ON THE CALL WILL SAY, WE CAN GIVE YOU 50, WE CAN GIVE YOU 75.

AND THEY SUPPLY THE BUCKETS THAT WE NEED.

SO THAT'S NORMAL DAY TO DAY.

NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT STORM PREP.

SO OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS CENTER DOES YEAR ROUND PREPARATION.

IN THE WINTERTIME, THEY'RE PLANNING, THEY'RE DOING TRAINING EXERCISES FOR BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL, UH, CUSTOMERS.

AND IN THE SPRINGTIME, THEY'RE EXECUTING ALL THE TRAINING.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DISPATCH WORK? HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE WITH CUSTOMERS IN THE SUMMERTIME, THAT'S WHEN THE THUNDERSTORM SEASON STARTS.

SO WE'RE IN FULL SWING.

SO LUCKILY THAT'S WHY THE WINTER AND SPRING TRAINING IS VERY CRUCIAL.

AND WE

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SO KNOCKING ON SOME WOOD THAT IT'S A MILD SEASON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE.

SO IN PRE-STORM PLANNING, THERE'S DAILY FORECAST, DOMINION ENERGY EMPLOYEES, UM, METEOROLOGISTS ON STAFF, AND THEY'RE NOT THERE TO TELL US WHEN IT'S GONNA RAIN LIKE TODAY OR, OR SNOW.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RAIN THAT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR OPERATIONAL, THAT HAVE AN OPERATIONAL IMPACT.

IS THERE GONNA BE HEAVY RAIN WITH A LOT OF WIND THAT'S GONNA TOPPLE OVER TREES AND POLES? SO THAT'S THEIR MAIN JOB.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT INTERNAL PROCESSES LIKE THE EXTERNAL MAP.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT LOGISTICS AS FAR AS LODGING PROCESSES AND STAGING MATERIALS AND MUTUAL ASSISTANCE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE S-E-C-S-E-E CONFERENCE CALL.

THEN AS FAR AS COMMUNICATIONS, WE SEND OUT, UM, INFORMATION OR ACTUALLY A PHONE CALL TO OUR MEDICAL NEED FOLKS WHO HAVE IT ON THEIR ACCOUNT.

SO IF YOU HAVE TO DEAL A MEDICAL CERTIFICATION LETTER THAT WE HOUSE IN OUR SYSTEM AND NOTE THAT THERE'S LIFE SUPPORT HERE AND WE NOTIFY THEM THERE'S A STORM COMING, YOU MIGHT WANT TO NEED TO MAKE OTHER PRECAUTIONS FOR YOURSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU'RE SAFE.

WE DO MEDIA RELEASES.

WE ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

UM, WE COMMUNICATE WITH A LOT OF INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL FOLKS.

I KNOW WHEN, UH, TROPICAL DEPRESSION DEBBIE WAS COMING THROUGH, I LITERALLY EMAILED YOU ALL EVERY DAY AND TWICE ON FRIDAY ABOUT WHAT DOMINION ENERGY WAS DOING.

SO THAT WOULD NOT STOP.

AND I'M UNAPOLOGETIC WITH MY NUMBER OF EMAILS.

SO THESE TWO ARE OUR METEOROLOGISTS.

THAT'S JEFF MOCK, OUR SENIOR METEOROLOGIST AND AARON HEARD.

AND THEY'RE THE TEAM THAT SENDS OUT MESSAGING TO US EVERY DAY.

THEY DO A FORECAST EVERY DAY, INCLUDING THE WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO I ALWAYS TELL THEM THAT THEY CONTROL THE MOST MONEY WITHIN DOMINION ENERGY BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THEIR FORECAST, WE'RE GETTING EXTRA CREWS, WE'RE GETTING HOTEL ROOMS, WE'RE GETTING EXTRA EQUIPMENT, SO THEY HAVE TO BE REALLY ACCURATE.

BACK IN APRIL, THEY ESTIMATED THAT THERE'LL BE 21 NAMED STORMS, 10 HURRICANES AND FIVE MAJOR HURRICANES.

SO TROPICAL DEPRESSION, DEBBIE WOULD BE UNDER THE NAME STORM.

AS FAR AS OUR RESTORATION STRATEGY, WE GO FROM THE TRANSMISSION LINE DOWN TO THE SUBSTATION OVER THE MAIN LINES, AND THEN THE CIRCUITS AND RESIDENTIAL LINES, INDIVIDUAL TRANSFORMERS AND THE SERVICES.

NOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT CREWS ARE ALL OVER THE TRANSMISSION LINES AND THEY'RE NOT EVERYWHERE ELSE? NO.

THEY WORK IN TANDEM, BUT THEY HAVE TO DO IT SAFELY.

SO I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT OUR, UH, SPECIAL CONDITION CUSTOMERS.

HERE IS A LISTING OF SOME OF THE CATEGORIES OF SOME OF THEM.

LIKE I MENTIONED, LARGE MEDICAL, HOMELAND SECURITY, EDUCATIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL IMPORTANT.

A LOT OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES USE SCHOOLS AS EMERGENCY SHELTERS, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO WE DO CONTINUOUS RESTORATION.

UH, WE SAY THAT 90% OF OUR RESOURCES WORK DURING THE DAY AND WE HAVE A SKELETON CREW, ABOUT 10% THAT WORK OVERNIGHT.

BUT WE ARE HERE 24 HOURS A DAY.

WE'RE HERE 24 HOURS A DAY ON A NORMAL DAY LIKE TODAY.

UM, AND THAT INCLUDES CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL AS, UH, OUR, UH, SERVICE TECHNICIANS.

SO CUSTOMERS ARE ABLE TO CONTACT US MORE NOW, UH, THAN EVER BEFORE.

WE STILL HAVE OUR 1, 8, 6, 6 NUMBER, AND WE HAVE A STAFF ON 24 HOURS A DAY EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.

UH, IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT, THEY CAN GO ONLINE TO REPORT THEIR OUTAGE.

AND WE HAVE A NEW APP.

UH, IT'S FREE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT NOT ONLY YOUR BILLS, BUT ALSO REPORT YOUR OUTAGE AND GET UPDATES WHEN POWER HAS BEEN RESTORED.

AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING SLIDE.

UM, THE TOP 10 MAJOR STORMS, OF COURSE, HURRICANE ISABELLE, WHICH FUN FACT TOMORROW, SEPTEMBER 18TH IS THE 21ST ANNIVERSARY THAT HURRICANE ISABELLE IMPACTED OUR AREA.

WHO WAS HERE FOR THAT ? YEAH, NOT FUN.

TWO WEEKS OF 14 HOUR DAYS.

NOT FUN.

UH, AND THE LAST ONE IS, UH, HURRICANE ISAI.

FOUR YEARS AGO, 2020.

AND LOOKING AT THIS LIST, I'VE BEEN IN EXTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT I'VE BEEN WITH DOMINION ENERGY FOR 28.

AND LOOKING AT THIS LIST, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR EVERY STORM THAT'S ON THIS LIST.

NOT SAYING IT'S MY FAULT, , JUST SAYING BEEN HERE FOR EVERY ONE OF THE STORMS. SO DOMINION ENERGY TAKES GREAT, UH, PAINS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR GRID IS HARDENED.

UM, THERE'S A GRID TRANSFER GRID TRANSFORMATION PLAN, UM, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN NEW POLES, UH, UP GRADING OUR WIRE SO THAT WHEN A TREE FALLS DOWN ON OVERHEAD WIRES, THE POLES DON'T BREAK, THE CROSSARMS COME DOWN, WHICH I UNDERSTAND FROM LINE WORKERS IS A LOT EASIER TO REPLACE THE CROSSARMS THAN IT IS TO REPLACE A POLE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

PLUS WE HAVE OUR STRATEGIC UNDERGROUND PROGRAM THAT WE'RE STILL DOING.

SO LOOKING AT AREAS THAT ARE MORE IMPACTED BY OVERHEAD OUTAGES AND TRANSFERRING THEIR OVERHEAD SERVICE

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UNDERGROUND.

THAT'S IT.

BUT I AM HERE FOR QUESTIONS JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL UPDATE ON ME.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR 28 YEARS.

I STARTED IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.

I WORKED IN DISPATCHING.

I WAS IN THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS CENTER.

I WAS THE ONE WHO HELPED CREATE THE MAP, DO THE FIRST VERSION OF THE APP.

THIS IS MY WHEELHOUSE.

I'M READY.

WELL, THANK, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

LET'S, UH, OPEN UP THE, UH, BOARD HERE TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

MR. RO, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

WELL, CRYSTAL, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I THINK THE LAST TIME, UH, WE MET YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WIND FARMS. MM-HMM.

SO THAT'S GREAT PROGRESS ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

I LOVE IT THAT YOU STARTED WITH SAFETY AS YOUR NUMBER ONE POINT.

UM, NO MEANING IN EXXONMOBIL WOULD EVER START WITHOUT A SAFETY DISCUSSION FIRST.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON HURRICANE SHEILA .

I JUST SAW YOU IN FRONT .

UM, I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THOUGH.

UM, YES.

THE LEVEL OF AID, UH, THAT WE PROVIDE TO OTHERS, YOU, YOU COMMENTED ON THE, THE, UH, AID COMING INTO VIRGINIA MM-HMM.

AND IF THE, IF THE EVENT IS HERE, HOW MUCH ARE WE TYPICALLY ABLE TO PROVIDE TO OTHERS? WE DO IT A LOT ACTUALLY.

NOW WHAT WE'LL DO IS, CAN I, AM I ABLE TO GO BACK? YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL LOOK AT HOW IT'S GONNA IMPACT US.

FIRST, YOU KNOW, IS THE WHOLE AIRPLANE MODEL.

MAKE SURE THE MASK IS ON YOU BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON ANYONE ELSE.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT, UM, IF IT'S GONNA IMP THANK YOU.

IF IT'S GONNA IMPACT US FIRST, AND IF IT'S NOT OR IF IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MANAGE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND CREWS OUT.

WE'VE SENT CREWS AS FAR UP AS VERMONT, WE'VE SENT IT DOWN TO TEXAS.

THERE WAS HURRICANE MARIA, I WANNA SAY LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO.

WE PUT BUCKET TRUCKS ON BARGES AND FLEW CREWS DOWN THERE.

AND THEY WERE DOWN THERE FOR WEEKS HELPING IN PUERTO RICO.

HELPING THEM OUT.

MY HUSBAND, WHO IS A FORMER LINE WORKER, HE WENT DOWN TO LOUISIANA FOR HURRICANE KATRINA.

HIS FIRST NIGHT THERE, HE SLEPT ON THE CONCRETE BECAUSE NO HOTELS WERE OPEN AND IT WAS TOO HOT TO SLEEP IN THE TRUCKS.

AND HE WAS DOWN THERE FOR THREE WEEKS.

AND THAT WAS THE THIRD CONTINGENT WE SENT DOWN.

SO YES, WE DO ALL THE TIME.

THEY, THEY LIKE US BECAUSE DOMINION ENERGY, ALONG WITH I THINK TEXAS, FLORIDA, GEORGIA, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT WORK ON REALLY HIGH VOLTAGE WIRE.

NO, NOT A LOT OF PLACES WORK ON HIGH VOLTAGE.

AND WHEN I SAY HIGH VOLTAGE, I MEAN 34,500.

A LOT OF PLACES WILL DO LESS.

UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, AND I WROTE A LIST OUT, THESE ARE THE CONTRACTORS THAT CAME FOR HURRICANE ISABELLE.

THESE ARE ALL THE MUTUAL AID THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING ONE FROM CANADA.

AND A LOT OF THE MUTUAL AID DID NOT WORK ON HIGH VOLTAGE.

SO IT WAS REALLY TRICKY TO GET THEM ON LIKE SECONDARY WORK AND NOT HIGH VOLTAGE LINE, WHICH KIND OF HAMPERED US, BUT WE MADE IT WORK.

THAT'S EXCELLENT.

AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS ON THE, THE NAME STORMS CHART.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING FOR VIRGINIA OR FOR THIS WHOLE SOUTHEAST REGION? FOR OUR, FOR OUR SERVICE TERRITORY.

THAT'S VIRGINIA, NORTH CAROLINA.

HMM.

IT SEEMED LIKE A VERY, A LOT, A LARGE LIST.

IT DOES .

SO I'M HOPING THEY'RE WRONG.

I DO TOO.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

ALRIGHT, MS. NOLL, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXCEPT TO SAY CRYSTAL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

AND I LIKE ALL THE UPGRADES THAT YOU GIVE US MESSAGES THAT COME IN ALL THE TIME.

VERY WELCOME MR. DURRY.

CRYSTAL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR, UM, GIVING US A BRIEFING.

IT'S, UH, GREAT TO KNOW.

WE HAVE YOU ON OUR SIDE, IF YOU WILL.

AND, UH, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALL THOSE STORMS, BUT I'M GONNA BLAME 'EM ON YOU .

I'LL TAKE IT.

AM NOT TAKING ANY OF THAT BLAME.

BUT I, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO UNDERGROUND AROUND OUR HOUSE AND I CAN TELL YOU EVERY TIME THE LIGHTS FLICKER WE GO, OH NO, HERE IT GOES AGAIN.

SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S EXCITED ABOUT GETTING UNDERGROUND POWER, SO, AND THANK YOU FOR SIGNING THE EASEMENTS FOR US TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE HURDLE, BUT, SO I DID IT IN BLOOD, SO I WHATEVER YOU NEED.

YOU GET IT FROM ME.

YAY.

BUT, UH, WE GOT YOU FOREVER.

NO, IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS GOOD.

THEY WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL.

, UH, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME OUT AND HE TOOK HALF AN HOUR TO EXPLAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON AND GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND STUFF.

IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A, A GREAT EXPERIENCE THERE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO.

I HAVE A NEPHEW THAT'S A LINEMAN FOR YOU GUYS, SO YAY.

WHAT, WHAT OFFICE IS HE? I'M SORRY? WHAT OFFICE DOES HE WORK AT? HE'S RIGHT HERE.

UH, THOMAS.

THOMAS DREW, I, HE'S, HE'S RIGHT HERE ON THE PENINSULA.

YAY.

SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD.

THAT WAS A VERY GOOD BRIEFING.

AND THEN, UH, OF NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WARNING SIGNS AND, AND GETTING PREPPED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE NEED YOU TO COME BACK MORE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MAYBE ONCE A YEAR TO REMIND FOLKS OF THE DANGER

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UM, YOU KNOW, ISABELLE WAS, YES, IT WAS A VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR A LOT OF US 'CAUSE WE HADN'T HAD A STORM LIKE THAT SINCE, I GUESS ABOUT 1933 WHEN, UH, THAT ONE HIT.

AND THE WATER WAS ABOUT THE SAME LEVEL.

IN FACT, THERE'S, UM, A HOUSE ON THE PENINSULA THAT WAS THERE IN THE 90, UH, THE 33 STORM.

AND THE, THEY HAD A MARKER FOR WHERE THE WATER WENT TO 33.

AND ISABELLE WENT TO THAT POINT.

BUT ON THERE, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU, UH, MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ABOUT 1999 AND, AND, UH, 98 THERE.

THERE'S FLOYD THERE.

BUT THERE WAS THE MILLENNIAL REIGNS, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED.

AND THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON YOUR SERVICES.

AND, AND, UH, UH, WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A RAINSTORM WHERE WATER CAN'T GET OUT.

OF, UH, EVEN HIGH LEVEL PLACES AND YOU END UP WITH FLOODING.

SO PAYING ATTENTION, UH, GETTING YOUR BRIEFINGS, UH, IS, IS, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL HOMEOWNERS AND ANY RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN OUR AREA.

'CAUSE UH, MUCH OF YOUR COUNTY IS IN A FLOOD PRONE, UM, EVACUATION ZONE ONE, IF YOU WILL.

WOW.

AND, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO, YOU CAN HANG AROUND THE WATCH AND SEE IF YOU LOSE YOUR POWER AND, AND GET TRAPPED HERE.

OR YOU CAN EVACUATE WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAYS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION, NOT APPRECIATE IT A PROBLEM.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, LATER ON NEXT, NEXT YEAR, WE CAN ALWAYS DO A TOUR OF OUR DISPATCHING OFFICE OR GO TO OUR LOCAL OFFICE.

IT UP TO YOU.

IF THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE SENIOR OFFICE IN THE, IN THE SETUP FOR, UH, I MEAN, MELANIE BEAL I THINK HAD YOUR JOB BEFORE AND SHE TOOK ME DOWN THERE, LEFT THE LASTING IMPRESSION.

AND I REALLY LOVE THE WAY THAT IT'S ALL CENTRALIZED AND, AND, AND IS DISTRIBUTION MANAGEMENT.

UH, IT'S PRETTY, UH, PRETTY AMAZING.

AND YOU CONSIDER THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THE WOODS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, UH, I, I GUESS THE ONE THING I WILL KIND OF FOOT ON, IF YOU LIVE IN A DENSE POPULATED AREA, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO FIRST.

'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SERVE BOTH OF THE PEOPLE.

IF YOU LIVE OUT IN THE STICKS, YOU MIGHT BE A WHILE.

AND I THINK IN ISABELLE THEY WERE TALKING SOMEWHERE IN TWO MONTHS BEFORE PEOPLE COULD GET THEIR POWER ON, IF NOT MORE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

GETTING A GOOD PRESENTATION.

AND ALSO WANT TO ECHO, I I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE EMAILS WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING SO WE KNOW WHAT'S UP.

UM, TWO THINGS REAL QUICK.

COULD YOU ONE, UM, SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THE DANGERS OF BACK FEEDING YOUR HOME SERVICE WITH THE PERSONAL GENERATOR DURING THE STORM MILE.

MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHY THAT'S A DANGER.

AND TWO, COULD YOU TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT YOUR COORDINATION WITH OUR 9 1 1 CENTER AND WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, HOW YOU MAKE COORDINATE WITH, WITH THEM OR COMMUNICATE WITH THEM SO THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US.

YEAH, SO I'LL DO THE 9 1 1 FIRST 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT ANSWER , SO YOUR NINE ONE ONE CENTER HAS THEIR DIRECT PHONE NUMBER INTO OUR DISPATCHING OFFICE IN NORFOLK.

IT'S NOT A, A VRU IS NOT A RECORDING.

THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH AN ACTUAL DISPATCHER IN OUR OFFICE WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, BROKEN POLE HOUSE, FIRE, WHATEVER.

AND, UM, WE COORDINATE VERY WELL WITH, AND I WANT TO THANK CHIEF SKI AND, AND SEAN FOR BEING SUCH GREAT PARTNERS WITH US.

UM, BUT AS SOON AS WE GET THE CALL, WE SEND FOLKS OUT AND GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON AS FAR AS ETR OR EXCUSE ME, ESTIMATED TIME OF REPAIR, OR REST, ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL, I SHOULD SAY ETA, UM, SO THAT YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH US WHEN WE ARE RESPONDING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP AND THE COORDINATION.

GOTCHA.

NOW AS FAR AS THE, UH, BACK FEED, AND I WISH MY HUSBAND CAME IN HERE, , HE'S OUT IN THE CAR.

HE IS NOT FEELING TOO WELL.

UH, HE WAS A, A FORMER, UH, SERVICEMAN FOR THE PENINSULA OFFICE FOR 32 YEARS.

UM, I DO KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS.

I DO KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS NOT ONLY FOR THE CUSTOMER, BUT ALSO FOR OUR CREWS.

UM, SO WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID, EVEN ON OUR WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS, UM, THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR, UM, GENERATORS SO THAT NO ONE GETS HURT AS FAR AS THE BACK FEED, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THE DANGERS OF BACK FEEDED.

FOR OUR GENERAT FOR THE GENERATORS LIKE YOUR HUSBAND.

MY UNCLE RETIRED FROM VECO AT THE TIME AS A LINEMAN.

AND WHILE GENERATOR WEREN'T PREVALENT BACK THEN, THERE WAS ALWAYS CONCERN THAT THAT DOWN LINE BECOMES ENERGIZED FROM A GENERATOR OF SOMEBODY'S HOME BY BEING BACK FED.

AND THERE'S NO WAY I KNOWN IT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S, THAT'S DANGEROUS.

WE WON'T NEED PEOPLE TO AVOID DOING THAT.

SO YEAH, I LISTENED TO A LOT OF LINE WORKERS WHO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY STOP, EVERYONE GETS STILL AND THEY LISTEN FOR THE HUM.

UM, TO BEFORE THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE.

WELL THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

, ABSOLUTELY.

I NEED TO DO ANYTHING.

WE'RE GONNA CALL ON MS. CHRIS OLSON TO TALK ABOUT OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE EASTER VIRGINIA REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL FACILITY AUTHORITY, WHICH WE LOVINGLY KNOW AS EVIE RFA RFA AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIRS.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP

[3. Eastern Virginia Regional Industrial Facility Authority. Receive a presentation from Kristi Olsen-Hayes, Director of Economic and Tourism Development.]

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UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. BELLAMY, MR. HILL, UH, BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT, UH, EVIE RFA, I WILL SAY I TOO VIVIDLY REMEMBER HURRICANE ISABEL.

AND IT WAS, UM, IF NOTHING ELSE FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS HERE, ONE OF THOSE OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED AS WE PICKED UP, UH, BRICKS, I THINK HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS MR. FULLER MIGHT REMEMBER OF BRICKS FROM THE RIVERWALK.

AND, BUT IT WAS REALLY JUST A TRUE, UM, TESTAMENT TO THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

SO THERE WERE SOME POSITIVES, UM, FROM IT AS WELL.

BUT AT ANY RATE, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH AN OVERVIEW AND UPDATE OF EASTERN VIRGINIA REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AUTHORITY, WHICH THAT IS AN ACRONYM IF I'VE EVER HEARD ONE EV RFA AS WELL AS KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER AND THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW ALL THESE ENTITIES COLLABORATE AND WORK TOGETHER TO DRIVE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.

SO IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE, UH, STEVE HARRISON, WHO IS THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE, AND ALSO THE LEAD, UH, TEAM LEADERSHIP, UH, MEMBER OF THE EV RFA PROJECT.

SO WE'RE GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF THE TIMELINE AND THE ENTITIES AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THINGS.

STEVE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTIE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, SO WHAT IS AR A IF, IF YOU AREN'T FAMILIAR? UM, AR A IS A REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL FACILITY AUTHORITY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, MY NAME IS STEVE HARRISON.

AS CHRISTY JUST SAID, I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GO OVER THE EV RFO, WHICH REALLY WAS FOUNDED RIGHT HERE IN YORK COUNTY, UM, AND HAS, I THINK, THE POTENTIAL FOR SORT OF TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE IN THIS REGION.

UM, AND YET THE DOMINION LIKES ACRONYMS, BUT IT'S GOT NOTHING ON EV RFA.

UM, SO, UH, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY, UH, REMIND YOU WHO THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE IS AND SORT OF WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THIS MAY BE ELEMENTARY TO YOU ALL, BUT JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS THE EV RA, WHAT IS ITS HISTORY AND WHERE IS IT GOING? UM, THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FIRST PROJECT, WHICH IS HERE, THE KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT PARTICIPATION AND, AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE SITE, UM, SITE PLANS THAT, THAT WE HAVE HAD, UH, HAD TO DATE.

AND THEN I WANTED TO END WITH JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SORT OF INFLECTION POINT, UM, THAT WE ARE SEEING NOT ONLY IN THIS LOCAL ECONOMY, BUT I THINK IN, IN THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE, AND THE IDEA TO SORT OF MEET THIS NEW ECONOMIC ORDER WITH A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MODEL.

AND EV RFA IS A PIVOTAL PART OF THAT.

UM, SO THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE, WE ARE THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A TEAM SPORT.

SO YOU HAVE THE, THE VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP.

WE ARE THE REGIONAL COUNTERPART.

AND THEN, UM, CHRISTIE AND DARREN ARE THE OUR COUNTERPARTS, UH, HERE IN YORK COUNTY.

UM, AND SO WE ARE A NONPROFIT.

WE, UH, REPRESENT 15 COMMUNITIES.

UH, NEW KENT COUNTY ACTUALLY JUST JOINED US A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE THEM.

UM, AND WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTORS THAT HELP US DO WHAT WE DO AS WELL.

DOMINION, UM, IS, IS ONE OF THOSE.

AND SO WE REALLY WORK WITH ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES, UM, TO, TO PUT HAMPTON ROAD'S BEST FOOT FORWARD WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS.

AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ALLIANCE AND SORT OF HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST DECADES, TRADITIONALLY THE ALLIANCE SORT OF WAS A, A ONE TRICK PONY, IF YOU WILL.

IT WAS, UM, LEAD GENERATION BUSINESS ATTRACTION.

AND WHILE THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UM, WE REALIZED THAT, UH, MOST, UH, GROWTH AND IN THE ECONOMY HAPPENS AT HOME, 80% OF JOBS ARE CREATED BY EXISTING BUSINESSES.

AND SO WE HAVE DRAMATICALLY EXPANDED OUR PORTFOLIO OF SERVICES, UM, FROM BUSINESS ATTRACTION TO ALSO INCLUDE BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION.

UM, AND THEN DATA IS AT THE HEART OF ALL OF THESE DECISIONS.

AND SO WE HAVE A, A EXPANDED BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TEAM AS WELL.

SO WE DO ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

WE DO A LOT OF, UM, SORT OF DEEP DIVES ON SITES AND UNDERSTANDING SITES AND THEIR NEED TO BE, UM, RAISED AS FAR AS TIER LEVEL, UH, TO BE SHOVEL READY.

UM, WE ALSO MARKET HAMPTON ROADS DOMESTICALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY AS A GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.

AND THEN WE TRY TO BRING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES TOGETHER AND SORT OF BE A REGIONAL CONVENER, UM, TO SOLVE BIG PROBLEMS. UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SORT OF CITY BY CITY, EVERYONE HAS A, A TEAM, BUT TOGETHER THERE'S ABOUT 110 PEOPLE IN HAMPTON ROADS DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHEN WE CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER, I THINK WE CAN SORT OF MOVE MOUNTAINS, UM, WHERE INDIVIDUALLY, UH, WE HAVE SORT OF INDIVIDUAL LIMITATIONS.

UM, AND REAL ESTATE SOLUTIONS IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF IT.

UH, THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY VIRGINIA LOSES PROJECTS IS WE DON'T HAVE SHOVEL READY SITES, AND SO WE NEED SHOVEL READY SITES AND, UM, THE EV RFA IS THE, THE PERFECT ENTITY TO GET US THERE.

UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, THESE ARE THE 15 LOCALITIES THAT WE REPRESENT.

SO HAMPTON ROADS, DEPENDING ON THE ORGANIZATION, SORT OF USUALLY HAS A DIFFERENT MAKEUP OF COMMUNITIES.

AND SO THESE ARE OUR 15, UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO VIRGINIA BEACH AND OUT WEST TO SOUTH HAMPTON AND NOW UP, UH, TO NEW KENT.

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UM, BUT IT IS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN LOCALITIES TO INVEST IN PROJECTS, UM, AND THEN SHARE IN THE REVENUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, UM, THOSE WINS.

SO THERE'S 11 OTHER RFAS IN VIRGINIA, I BELIEVE WE ARE THE LARGEST, UM, HAVING AS MANY COMMUNITIES AS WE HAVE IN IT.

AND, AND IT WAS FOUNDED HERE ON THE PENINSULA.

UM, AS YOU SEE THIS, UH, YORK COUNTY PRESS RELEASE FROM A FEW YEARS BACK THAT, UM, KINGS CREEK WAS THE FIRST PROJECT FOR THE RUP.

UM, THE SECRETARY OF THE COMMONWEALTH FORMALLY RECOGNIZED THIS ORGANIZATION IN, UH, DECEMBER, 2018, UM, AND YORK COUNTY, UH, AND JIM NOEL, WHO, UH, IS FORMERLY, UM, OF YORK COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT, UH, HAS VERY GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO, TO WORK WITH US AND HELP US AS WE HAVE SORT OF TAKEN OVER MANAGEMENT OF THE RFA.

AND SO HE'S SERVING AS THE EV RFA DIRECTOR.

UM, HE BROUGHT THIS INITIAL PROJECT DURING HIS TIME HERE AT YORK COUNTY, UM, AND WORKED TO GET HAMPTON TO SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT.

AND NEWPORT NEWS SERVED AS THE SUPPORT STAFF.

BUT BEING A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION LIKE WE ARE, UM, IN 2022, UH, WE AGREED TO TAKE OVER AS THE MANAGING ENTITY AND TO SORT OF PERFORM ALL OF THOSE SERVICES FOR THE EV RFA.

UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 11 COMMUNITIES, AND SO THE, THE PENINSULA FOUNDED THE EV RFA AND SINCE INCEPTION, UH, SEVERAL OF THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITIES HAVE JOINED.

SO CHESAPEAKE, FRANKLIN, VIRGINIA BEACH, AND ISLE OF WHITE.

UM, WE'VE PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF NORFOLK AND WE EXPECT THEM TO JOIN SHORTLY.

UM, AND WE'RE ON TAP TO, UH, PRESENT TO NEW KENT COUNTY AND TO THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH.

SO WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL GET ALL 15 OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH.

UM, ON THE ALLIANCE SIDE IN, ON THE EV RFA SIDE SHORTLY, UH, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, EVERY, UM, MEMBER LOCALITY APPOINTS TWO PRIMARY ME, TWO PRIMARY MEMBERS, AND TWO ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

UM, SO MS. NOEL AND, UH, MR. CARTER ARE THE PRIMARY MEMBERS.

AND, UH, MS. OLSON HAYES AND MR. BELLAMY ARE THE ALTERNATE MEMBERS FOR YORK COUNTY.

AND SO EVERY, UM, OPPORTUNITY THAT A VOTE COMES UP, YOU TWO PEOPLE CAN VOTE, UM, FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.

AND THEN, UH, THE CURRENT SLATE OF OFFICERS FOR 2024, UM, MR. DAVID MEEKER OF GLOUCESTER SERVES AS THE CHAIR.

AND THEN, UM, MR. PHILLIPSON FROM WILLIAMSBURG, MR. HAE FROM NEWPORT NEWS, AND MR. HUCKS FROM KOSIN, UM, ROUND OUT THAT OFFICER PANEL.

SO IN 2022, AS I MENTIONED, THE ALLIANCE, UH, EXECUTED AN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, THE EV RFA ORGANIZATION.

AND SO WE SERVE AS THE SUPPORT ARM.

UM, AND WE DIDN'T TAKE, UH, ANY REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A PERFECT FIT FOR WHAT WE DO.

UM, IT IS REGIONALISM IN ACTION.

IT'S PUTTING MONEY, UM, INTO A COLLECTIVE POT AND THEN WORKING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS TOGETHER.

AND THE, THE MONEY THAT COMMUNITIES PUT IN IS ACTUALLY, UM, UH, I THINK VERY, VERY REASONABLE.

AND SO AS WE'VE GONE TO NORFOLK, AS WE'VE GONE TO VIRGINIA BEACH, WHAT WE SAY IS THAT IT, IT'S ALMOST ESSENTIALLY A NO RISK PROPOSITION BECAUSE, UH, THE OPERATIONAL DUES ARE, IF YOUR COMMUNITY HAS MORE THAN 50,000 PEOPLE, YOU PAY $4,000 A YEAR, LESS THAN 50,000, YOU PAY $2,000 A YEAR, AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO JOIN ANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.

SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, THE, THE STAKES OF JOINING IS A $4,000 A YEAR.

UM, BUT JOINING A PROJECT GIVES YOU THAT POTENTIAL TO INVEST AND THEN, UM, SPLIT THOSE REVENUES BASED ON THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF INVESTMENT THAT YOU PUT IN.

AND SO WITH AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, UM, THE TYPICALLY, I THINK THE, THE COMMUNITY THAT BRINGS THE PROJECT FORWARD WOULD, WOULD LIKELY BE THE ONE THAT IS INVESTING THE MOST, AND THEN WOULD SORT OF SOLICIT DONATIONS FROM THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AS FAR AS HOW MUCH THEY NEED TO GET THE, THE SITE TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE BODIES THAT, UH, WOULD ACTUALLY INVEST SUCH, SUCH, SUCH AS YORK COUNTY, UM, WOULD THEN ALL VOTE TO APPROVE TH THAT PARTICULAR INVESTMENT.

AND SO WITH THE KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, EVERY MEMBER LOCALITY WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND THEN DETERMINE IF THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THEN, UM, THE, THE COST OF ANY PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH KINGS CREEK GOES BEFORE THE KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, UH, CHAIRED BY MARK CARTER.

UM, AND THEY GO THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND, AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS, AND THEN THEY TAKE IT TO THE EV RA BOARD, UM, FOR ANY SORT OF MAJOR VOTES.

AND SO THE KING KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER, AS YOU KNOW, UM, IS, IS THE FIRST PROJECT.

IT IS ABOUT A 432 ACRE, UM, SITE THAT WAS STATE SURPLUS PROPERTY HERE IN YORK COUNTY.

UM, AND IT, THE EVRA CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF 2021.

AND ESSENTIALLY THROUGH THE LEASING OF ABOUT HALF OF IT TO DOMINION ENERGY FOR A SOLAR FARM, IT ESSENTIALLY PAID FOR ITSELF.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS A, A REALLY WONDERFUL WAY

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TO GET ABOUT, UH, 80 ACRES OF IT TO BE DEVELOPABLE FOR OTHER OPTIONS.

UM, BUT IT SORT OF GOT REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, THE PROJECT GOING RIGHT AWAY.

AND, UM, SINCE EVIE RFA TOOK OVER, UM, THEY'VE ALSO SECURED A GO VIRGINIA GRANT FOR SITE PREPAREDNESS, UM, AND TO REALLY JUST UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE SITE MUCH BETTER.

AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, UH, WE RECEIVED A CONTRACT FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES FROM A COMPANY CALLED, UH, DISTRIBUTION REALTY GROUP THAT IS LOOKING TO BUILD, UH, TWO FACILITIES ON THE SITE.

AND SO THIS IS THE CURRENT BREAKOUT OF THE PARTICIPATING LOCALITIES HERE IN THE KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER PROJECT, AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY CONTRIBUTE ANNUALLY, UM, TO THAT PROJECT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU ALL AT YORK COUNTY OBVIOUSLY ARE CONTRIBUTING THE MOST.

AND, UM, WILLIAMSBURG, UH, IS IN THE SORT OF SECOND PLACE.

IS THAT JUST FOR THAT, THIS PROJECT, OR IS IT THE OVERALL YES, SIR.

JUST FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, SORT OF SPIN OUT THAT, THAT COMES FROM THESE VARIOUS BASES.

AND SO THIS IS A, JUST A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, UH, OF WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE BUILT ON THE KINGS CREEK COMMERCE CENTER SITE.

AND SO, UM, THIS WAS REALLY JUST WORKING WITH THE, THE RFAS, UM, ENGINEERING FIRM TO JUST SORT OF MOCK UP THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE.

UM, AND THEN AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS DISTRIBUTION REALTY GROUP, UM, WE HAVE SORT OF ZEROED IN ON TWO PARTICULAR PIECES OF PROPERTY HERE.

AND AS YOU SEE THESE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, ONE THAT IS ALMOST, UH, 300,000 SQUARE FEET AND ONE THAT IS, UH, ALMOST 200,000 SQUARE FEET THAT THEY, THEY WOULD PROPOSE BUILDING ON THE SITE.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE THINK THAT THE POST COVID ECONOMY GIVE HAMPTON ROADS AND HOW EV RFA CAN PLAY INTO THAT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT SORT OF THE UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF FEDERAL SPENDING AND UNPRECEDENTED GLOBAL INSECURITY THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE POST COVID WORLD, UM, YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF ECONOMIC CHANGE AND SORT OF A NEED FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MODEL.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, CREATE A REGIONAL INVESTMENT PLAYBOOK.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CREATED THE FIRST EVER, UM, DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL STRATEGY.

THE UNITED STATES REALLY HASN'T NEEDED, UM, A A WRITTEN DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL STRATEGY, BUT, UM, RISING THREATS FROM CHINA AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE, UH, I THINK THEY'VE PUT OUT SORT OF THE CALL TO ARMS, UM, TO A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES LIKE HUNTINGTON INGLES TO, TO EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE, UM, WHAT WE'RE BUILDING.

UM, AND WITH THAT COMES THE NEED FOR THESE LARGE SITES FOR LARGE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND EV RFA IS PERFECTLY POSITIONED TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE CAN GET SITES, UM, TO MARKET FASTER AND THEN, UM, MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES CAN, CAN ASSIST.

AND SO BRUCE KATZ, WHO'S A PROFESSOR AT THE, UH, DREXEL UNIVERSITY AND WORKS AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION, UM, HAS HELPED US SORT OF OUTLINE WHAT IS THE ECONOMY LOOKING LIKE POST COVID.

AND SO THESE DISRUPTIVE GLOBAL FORCES THAT I MENTIONED, LIKE THE WARS IN UKRAINE AND ISRAEL, THESE RISING TENSIONS WITH CHINA, UM, I THINK HUNTINGTON INGLES HAS SAID, FOR EVERY ONE SUBMARINE THE UNITED STATES BUILDS, UH, CHINA 17.

SO THERE IS A NEED TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SUBS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BUILT HERE IN THE US.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, COVID-19 AND, AND THE CLIMATE, UM, ADAPTATION CRISIS, IT, IT REALLY IS CREATING WHAT WE WOULD SAY IS A NEW ECONOMIC ORDER THAT THE US IS LOOKING TO REM MILITARIZE, RESHORE AND DECARBONIZE SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND SO, UH, MR. KATZ HAS IDENTIFIED FOUR KEY AREAS THAT HE THINKS A WILL MAKE A METRO AREA POSITIONED TO SORT OF WIN IN THE POST COVID ECONOMY.

AND THAT IS MILITARY METROS, TECH HUBS, CLIMATE FIRST MOVERS AND TRADING POWERHOUSES.

AND I WOULD ASSERT THAT HAMPTON ROADS IS ALL FOUR OF THOSE THINGS.

AND SO THIS REALLY IS A MOMENT FOR, FOR THIS REGION.

AND SO WE, AND ARE, UM, EAGER TO SORT OF SEIZE ON THAT, THAT POTENTIAL.

UH, AND ONE OF THOSE PIECES IS ALSO THIS AUS INITIATIVE, WHICH IS, IS NOT A NEW INITIATIVE, BUT IT SORT OF HAS TAKEN ON NEW IMPORTANCE, UH, WITH THESE RISING TENSIONS, WHICH IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, A TRILATERAL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AUSTRALIA, THE UNITED KINGDOM, AND THE UNITED STATES.

AND YOU'VE SEEN HUNTINGTON INGLES IN PARTICULAR, UM, REALLY RAMP UP PARTICIPATION AND, UH, WORK WITH AUSTRALIAN COMPANIES AND UK COMPANIES, UM, TO BRING THEM HERE, EDUCATE THEM ON HOW THEY DO BUSINESS, AND THEN TO BUILD, UM, SUBMARINES, UH, TO PLACE IN THE INDO-PACIFIC REGION.

AND SO THAT PRESENTS US AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE PILLAR ONE IS ESSENTIALLY SORT OF THE, THE STRAIGHT MANUFACTURING OF THESE, UH, CONVENTIONALLY ARMED NUCLEAR POWERED SUBMARINES.

SO THERE'S $3 BILLION IN INVESTMENT COMING HERE FROM AUSTRALIA TO DO THIS.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE TOURED ABOUT 40 AUSTRALIAN COMPANIES THROUGH HAMPTON ROADS IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS OR SO.

SO WE'RE REALLY SEEING SORT OF A TIDE OF THIS INVESTMENT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THOSE PEOPLE FIND A PLACE TO, TO LAND IN HAMPTON ROADS.

AND NEWPORT NEWS WILL HAVE TO HIRE ABOUT 21,000 PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND THERE'S JUST SO MUCH DEFENSE RELATED,

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UM, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN DIVERSIFYING AWAY FROM DEFENSE IN HAMPTON ROADS BECAUSE IT'S THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, IF YOU WILL, THAT IF, IF YOU'RE IN DEFENSE YOU NEED TO BE IN HAMPTON ROADS.

BUT THE, THE MOMENT SORT OF DEMANDS DIVERSIFICATION WITHIN DEFENSE AS WELL.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT CAN BE HAD, UM, BY FOCUSING IN ON THE DEFENSE SECTOR, UH, AS WELL.

AND WE JUST, UM, TODAY ANNOUNCED A PROJECT IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, UM, A COMPANY CALLED KONGSBERG THAT'S GONNA BE BUILDING MISSILES FOR THE YORKTOWN NAVAL WEAPONS STATION.

AND SO THERE, THE, THE MOMENT REALLY IS HERE AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT COME UP PRETTY OFTEN.

UM, AND PILLAR TWO IS REALLY SORT OF UNDERSTANDING THE, THE KEY CAPABILITIES OF THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND, UM, SHARING THEM ACROSS SORT OF THE, THE ALLIED FORCES THAT THE, UM, THE US WORK WITH.

AND SO OUR NEXT STEP ON THIS IS WE ARE WORKING ON CREATING WHAT WE CALL A REGIONAL INVESTMENT PLAYBOOK.

AND IT'S FOCUSING ON A TARGETED SET OF CONCRETE PROJECTS THAT SORT OF CAN UNLOCK POSSIBILITIES.

SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HISTORICALLY, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT OF CASTING A WIDE NET IN HOPES OF FINDING A PROJECT THAT WILL COME HERE.

BUT IN THIS CASE, WE ARE TRYING TO SORT OF TAKE A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO FINDING COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ALIGN WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, LEVERAGE THESE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND REALLY CAN DRIVE SOME OF THESE OUTCOMES, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGIES AND, AND RISING DEFENSE SPENDING.

AND WHAT WE WANNA DO ULTIMATELY IS WORK WITH THE COMPANIES HERE AND GRADUATE HAMPTON ROADS FROM A REGION THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE END ASSEMBLY OF SOPHISTICATED PRODUCTS LIKE SUBMARINES, WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THE, THE SORT OF SHELL OF THESE THINGS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PARTICIPATORY ACROSS THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE EXTENSIVELY INVOLVED IN THE TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION BEHIND THESE THINGS.

AND REALLY JUST BRINGING MORE OF THAT INVESTMENT AND THOSE MINES, UM, HERE TO HAMPTON ROADS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS REQUIRE SITES AND FACILITIES.

AND THE, THE E EV RFA CERTAINLY IS, UM, THE, THE VENUE TO ENCOURAGE THIS SORT OF CROSS MUNICIPAL COOPERATION.

AND SO WE THINK ALL OF THESE STARS KIND OF ALIGN IN A WAY THAT THAT MAKES IT A VERY UNIQUE TIME HERE IN HAMPTON ROADS.

AND UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL START OFF TO MY LEFT TO THE TOP OF MR. SHEPHERD.

HEY STEVE, THANKS FOR GIVING US THE BRIEF AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, GIVE US YOUR BACKGROUND, LIKE WHERE'D YOU COME FROM AND YES, SIR.

AND WHAT, WHAT GOT YOU HERE? SO, UM, UH, I AM, UH, THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE ALLIANCE.

UM, I'VE BEEN AT THE ALLIANCE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

BEFORE THAT I WORKED, UH, FOR THE CITY OF VIRGINIA BEACH, UH, FOR SEVEN YEARS.

UM, AND, UH, BEFORE THAT THE ALLIANCE, UM, I'M A GRADUATE OF THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY, UM, AND IN UNDERGRADUATE AND A GRADUATE DEGREE IN PUBLIC POLICY.

AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN, IN VIRGINIA BEACH, UM, AND STILL LIVE THERE CLOSE TO MY FAMILY TODAY.

SO, UH, I, I LOVE, UH, WORKING AT THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE BECAUSE I LOVED LIVING UP IN THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA AT WILLIAM AND MARY AND I, UM, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY IS, IS IN VIRGINIA BEACH.

AND SO THIS GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK, UM, WITH SO MANY OF THESE COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE SORT OF GROWN UP IN.

UM, AND SO YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A PRIVILEGE.

WHAT'D YOU DO AT, UH, VIRGINIA BEACH WHEN YOU WORKED THERE? UM, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

SAME, SAME GENERAL THING.

UM, ON THE, UH, THE KING'S CREEK, UH, BECAUSE I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH, UH, EVIE RFA, UM, THE 20,000 THAT YORK COUNTY'S PAYING, THAT'S AN ANNUAL PAYMENT.

IS THAT INDEFINITE? DOES IT GO ON AND ON AND ON AND FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER? IT LIKELY WILL.

I THINK IT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE EXISTS, UM, THE, IF THE NEED CHANGES, UM, AND IT'S NOT NEEDED, IF IT BECOMES SORT OF SELF-SUSTAINING, I THINK THAT THE FUNDS COULD BE SORT OF REALLOCATED.

UM, BUT AT THE MOMENT, ONCE TAX REVENUES GENERATED OR SALES, THAT AMOUNT COULD CHANGE, COULD BE DECREASED.

COULD IT BE INCREASED IF THE, IF THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO INCREASE IT AND THEN, BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK, UH, FOR APPROVAL FROM, FROM THIS BODY.

, THEY, THEY, THEY COULD VOTE TO INCREASE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE GIVE THE MONEY.

UM, SO THE MORE YOU GENERATE INCOME REVENUE, THAT NUMBER COULD GO DOWN.

AND COULD THAT NUMBER GO AWAY COMPLETELY IF YOU GENERATED ENOUGH REVENUE? I, I BELIEVE IT COULD.

THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

AND, AND ONCE THAT REVENUE'S GENERATED, DOES IT GO BACK TO THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT EACH LOCALITY HAS PUT IN? YES, SIR.

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SO THAT PERCENTAGE IS GONNA COME BACK TO YORK COUNTY, WHATEVER OUR PERCENTAGE IS EXACTLY IN PERPETUITY.

AND SO IT REALLY IS SORT OF THE MORE YOU INVEST THE, THE MORE POTENTIAL YOU HAVE TO GAIN.

THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATIC PARTICIPATION EITHER.

AND, UM, JUST, UH, I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED THIS, BUT WHILE IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY AUTHORITY, THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT LIMITED TO INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT COULD BE A TOURISM RELATED DEVELOPMENT, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE OFFICE.

THE, THE, UM, BODY THAT THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA SETS UP IN ARFA IS, UH, VERY FLEXIBLE.

SO IT, IT CAN REALLY DO ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS TWO COMMUNITIES AGREE.

ALL THOSE, THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LIST OF MEMBERS, THEY CAN, THEY GET TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN A PROJECT OR NOT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE A, LIKE YOUR COUNTY GOES IN AND ENDS UP BEING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PARTICIPANT, WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE THE REVENUE THAT COMES BACK, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GETTING AT.

THAT'S IT.

MR. NOLL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK PROBABLY HAVE SOME.

WELL, MR. REY, WELL I'VE, I'VE BEEN, UM, DISCUSSING WITH, UH, JIM NOEL SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD AROUND THE KINGS CREEK SITE.

UH, AND I THINK SUCCESSFULLY ANSWERED SEVERAL OF THOSE.

I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT, IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS.

IT WORKS, IT WORKS ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE INTERSTATE, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT I'M CONCERNED WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE GOTTEN SUFFICIENT INPUT FROM CHE MANS, UH, THAT'S A HUGE INDUSTRIAL OR A HUGE TRANSPORTATION HUB FOR THE, FOR THE NAVY.

UH, I KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UH, VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.

AND HAVE WE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT? HAVE WE GOTTEN THEIR FEEDBACK? THAT WAS KIND OF THE QUESTION I LEFT WITH JIM.

I I THINK IT'S STILL AN OUTSTANDING ISSUE THAT, UH, YOUR GROUP NEED TO LOOK AT.

ALRIGHT, THEA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

VERY INSIGHTFUL.

A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

A LOT TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND.

AND I'M GONNA REFRAIN FROM TURNING THIS TO ALL NIGHT SESSION AND Q AND A BACK AND FORTH.

'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION, SO I LIMIT IT TO FOUR.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE NEW COMMUNITY, NEW MUNICIPALITY THAT WAS JOINED, THE ONES YOU ARE TALKING TO NOW, WHAT'S THE VISION FOR THE SCOPE OF THERE? WHAT IS THE END STATE? HOW FAR, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO BUILD OUT TO AND STOP ALL 15? WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ALL 15.

AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WHEN THE ORGANIZATION WAS FOUNDED BY THESE PENINSULA COMMUNITIES, THEY PURPOSEFULLY DIDN'T CALL IT THE HAMPTON ROADS RFA, THEY DID CALL IT THE EASTERN VIRGINIA RFA BECAUSE I THINK THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL TO EXPAND BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF HAMPTON ROADS, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT COULD, UM, ALLOW FOR MORE INVESTMENT.

BUT ONE OF THE, THE NICE THINGS ABOUT IT IS THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE ANY NEW MEMBER.

UM, SO WE WILL ESSENTIALLY SORT OF AS THE STAFF GO OUT AND PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITIES UNTIL THE BOARD TELLS US NOT TO.

UM, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO GET THE 15 IN, UM, AND THEN IF THE BOARD DIRECTS US TO KIND OF KEEP GOING.

UM, BUT, BUT YOU COULD GO, YOU KNOW, INTO THE RICHMOND MARKET, NEW KENT TECHNICALLY IS.

UM, AND SO THE, THE POSSIBILITIES COULD GO MUCH FURTHER, BUT I THINK IF AS LONG AS WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, THE HAMPTON ROADS REGION SORT OF FULLY ON BOARD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

WHERE DO WE STOP BUMPING UP AGAINST THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA RFA, WHATEVER IT MAY EXIST OUT THERE.

IT AND THAT'S, THERE'S, OH YES MA'AM.

IF I COULD JUST CUT IN FOR A SECOND.

THE, THE, THE PREMISE BEHIND FRA ORIGINALLY IS SOME AREAS HAVE LAND TO DEVELOP, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE FUNDS TO DEVELOP IT.

OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE THE MONEY BUT NOT THE LAND.

AND SO BY GETTING THEM ALL TOGETHER AND TAKING PARTS OF IT, EVERYBODY BENEFITS.

UH, DEPENDING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO EVERY PROJECT, BUT YOU CAN.

AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE LAND, BUT CHESAPEAKE HAS LOTS OF LAND.

SO YOU SEE, WE ARE ALL SHARING TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL ALL COME OUT THE BETTER FOR IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE PREMISE BEHIND IT.

AND IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY DONE, AS YOU SAID, IT'S NOT ONLY BEING DONE IN OUR REGION, BUT IT'S BEING DONE.

THERE ARE ABOUT 11 OF THEM, I THINK AROUND THE STATE.

YES MA'AM.

AND, BUT THEY GO BY A DIFFERENT TYPE.

WE TOP THEY GO BY REDOS, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT I SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THING FOR VACO.

AND SO I'M BEGINNING TO LEARN THAT THE TERMINOLOGY DIFFERENT BUT ROSE BY YEAH.

THEIR NAME IS STILL SMELL AS SWEET AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE NAMES ARE IS IT'S WHAT'S BEHIND IT THAT MAKES IT EXCITING.

HERE IS HE THOUGHT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THAT PODIUM.

WELL, SPEAKING OF SIGHTING, SO THE KINGS CREEK PROJECT HAS SOME EXCI EXCITING POTENTIALS HAPPEN THERE.

YES SIR.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME, IN ANY INSIGHT WHAT WE MAY SEE DEVELOP THERE? OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE ON THAT YET? JIM, DO YOU WANT TO JIM MIGHT BE THE

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I KNOW , I ALMOST GOT AWAY.

UH, I'M JIM NOEL AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE RFA AND WORK, UH, PART-TIME FOR THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE IN THAT CAPACITY.

UM, WELL YOU SAW THIS SITE PLAN AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VARIOUS, UH, ACREAGE OUT THERE.

SO WE'VE SHOWED THE PROPERTY TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMPANIES.

UM, THE FIRST ONE WE HAPPEN TO BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH IS A CLASS, A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TYPE OF FIRM.

UH, BUT WE'VE SHOWED IT FOR LOCAL COMPANIES THAT DO ASSEMBLY AND MANUFACTURING.

UM, IT REALLY, IT, WITH THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ZONING, IT'S PRETTY WIDE OPEN FOR WHAT WE COULD HAVE OUT THERE FROM ON THE COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECTRUM.

SO WE'RE SHOWING IT FOR ALL TYPES OF PROJECTS AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSTATE AND SOME OTHER ATTRIBUTES MAKE IT, I THINK, DESIRABLE PROPERTY.

BUT THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE FORECASTED, THEY'RE NOW WAREHOUSING, THEY'RE CLASS A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE SPACE.

THIS COMPANY, UH, BASED IN NASHVILLE AND CHICAGO, THEY'VE DONE THIS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE PRODUCT.

UH, THEY DO IT ACTUALLY WITHOUT TENANTS.

UH, THEY'RE CONFIDENT THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LEASE IT, SO.

THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT.

THIRD, THIRD QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE ALLIANCE VISION ON THERE IS ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES OF BUSINESSES YOU CAN BRING INTO THE, THE RA, UM, WHAT IS THE, THE ALLIANCE'S VISION ON WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT ARE YOU TARGETING? WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE TO BRING IN HERE? SO, UM, WITH THE RFA I THINK OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE LARGE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, UH, AND TO TARGET SOME OF THESE SORT OF MEGA INVESTMENTS, IF YOU WILL.

SO I THINK AN INTERESTING EXAMPLE IN CHESAPEAKE, THE LS GREEN LINK PROJECT THAT ANNOUNCED, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, IT'S A $687 MILLION INVESTMENT ON OFFSHORE WIND CABLING.

AND SO IT, THE COMPANY'S A SPIN OUT OF LG, UM, LOOKED ACROSS VARIOUS PROPERTIES, UM, AND, AND ENDED UP CHOOSING A, A SITE IN CHESAPEAKE.

BUT, UM, AS MS. KNOLL SAID, CHESAPEAKE HAS 4,000 ACRES, UH, OF LAND IN SOUTHERN CHESAPEAKE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, BECOME A, A RFA PROJECT.

AND SO THE INVESTMENT IN SOME OF THOSE SITES, WHICH REQUIRES SOMETIMES HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT REALLY ONE COMMUNITY PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO GO ALONE.

UM, BUT BRING IT WITH IT SORT OF THE POSSIBILITY OF TRANSFORMATIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, UH, TENNESSEE, THE FORD PLANT, WHICH WENT INTO TENNESSEE AND IS, YOU KNOW, A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT, THEY SPENT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THAT SITE, AND THEN IT TOOK THEM 15 YEARS TO BECOME AN OVERNIGHT SUCCESS.

AND SO REALLY WE WANT TO GET THESE SITES KIND OF ON TAP BECAUSE ALL OF THESE MAJOR INVESTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S HYUNDAI, UM, IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, OR FORD, IF YOU LOOK AT TOYOTA AND NORTH CAROLINA, THEY ALL LOOKED AT VIRGINIA AND THEN HAD TO SORT OF PASS US BY BECAUSE THERE JUST WASN'T A SITE HERE FOR IT.

BUT WE HAVE A, A WORKFORCE THAT WE BELIEVE IS SECOND TO NONE, UM, IN PARTICULAR WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SORT OF AN INDUSTRIAL BASE.

AND SO WE THINK WE CAN WIN THOSE PROJECTS.

AND, AND ELLIS GREENLAKE, I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, UM, OF, OF A PROJECT THAT WE COULD WIN BECAUSE WE HAD THE SITE.

AND SO WHEN YOU COMPARE THE SITES WITH THE EXISTING WORKFORCE HERE, UH, WE THINK THAT REALLY WE WILL SEE A LOT, UH, OF ECONOMIC GROWTH.

AND LAST QUESTION WE'RE KIND OF RELATED TO THAT.

SO WHEN THE ALLIANCE WORKS WITH THE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES TO BRING THEM IN OR POTENTIAL INDUSTRIES TO BRING THEM IN, DOES THE ALLIANCE ALSO WORK IN DEVELOPING THE SUPPORTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEIR POTENTIAL BUSINESS? SO IF YOU'RE A DATA CENTER OR YOU ARE A MANUFACTURER, DO YOU HAVE THE ELECTRICAL GRID? DO YOU HAVE THE WATER TO SUPPORT IT? UM, THE, THE, THE, THE DA THE DATA THAT'S SUPPORTED, DO YOU ALSO COME IN AND HELP WITH THAT AS WELL? YES, SIR.

YEAH, WE, UH, SORT OF, UH, VIEW OURSELVES AS A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING.

AND SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL SEND US A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THAT CAN, SOMETIMES IT'S HUNDREDS OF PAGES LONG AND WE TELL THEM WE'LL FILL EVERYTHING OUT.

WE WORK WITH DOMINION, WE WORK WITH THE MUNICIPAL PARTNERS, UM, TO BASICALLY FIND OUT WHAT ARE THESE MAX CAPACITIES AT THIS SITE AND DOES THIS SITE MEET YOUR NEEDS? AND WE, WE TELL THE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE ARE ONLY BIASED IN THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COME TO HAMPTON ROADS, BUT ONLY IF IT IS A FIT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SORT OF, UH, SELL A PROPERTY TO A, A COMPANY THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

UM, THAT THAT'S SORT OF A, A LOSE LOSE PROPOSITION.

AND SO WE DO WORK ALONGSIDE THEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THEIR SEARCH, UM, TO FINDING SITES TO, ONCE THEY'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, ONE COMMUNITY, THEN WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE, THE MUNICIPAL PARTNERS ON SORT OF EVEN, YOU KNOW, PLANNING, ZONING, REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT THINGS.

UM, WE WORK WITH IT NOT ONLY THROUGH THE ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT AFTER.

AND SO, UH, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK TO THESE COMPANIES THAT, THAT HAVE ANNOUNCED IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, PRETTY REGULARLY ABOUT, UH, ATTENDING CERTAIN MEETINGS AND MEETING WITH DOMINION AND UM, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP THOSE SORT OF INTRODUCTIONS SO THAT THEY BECOME A, A NOT ONLY A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN, BUT THAT THEY FEEL WELCOMED AND THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE THEY NEED.

THANK, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE.

LOT,

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LOT TO ABSORB.

READY TO MOVE INTO THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THE PRESENTATIONS AND WE ARE

[CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]

IF I'M LOOKING THIS RIGHT, WE HAVE FOUR, I THINK BASICALLY.

SO IF, SO FIRST UP IS GONNA BE MS. LARISSA TUR, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES HERE WHERE YOUR MOTHER ALSO WISHES TO SPEAK, BUT WE HAVE A LANGUAGE CHALLENGE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND YOUR THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PART AND THEN YOU WILL BE SPEAKING ON YOUR MOTHER'S BEHALF FOLLOWING, CORRECT? YES.

YOUR, THE PODIUM IS YOURS.

AND AGAIN, AGAIN, EVERYBODY STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

MY NAME IS LARKE.

I LIVE ONE 19 RED ROAD WILLIAMSBURG.

AND GOOD EVENING.

UM, YEAH, GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

SO I'LL JUST READ QUICKLY.

A LOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

DEAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, MY FAMILY, INCLUDING TWO SENIOR CITIZENS AND DISABLED CHILD, LOST OUR SIP HOUSE DUE TO MANUFACTURERS AND CONSTRUCTIONS FRAUD IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

FOR US, IT HAS BEEN THE HARDEST YEAR OF OUR LIVES.

IT STARTED WITH THE LOSS OF HEALTH COVERAGE FOR MY ELDERLY PARENTS THAT WERE BOOTED FROM MEDICAID BY YORK SOCIAL SERVICES ON FEBRUARY 24.

AND FROM THE LOSS OF OUR HOUSE WHERE A FAMILY SUFFERING CONTINUES DUE TO YORK SOCIAL SERVICES, CORRUPTION IN THE LEADERSHIP LEVEL, SPECIFICALLY YORK SOCIAL SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF BENEFITS, BERNIE HENDRICKS AND YORK SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR MS. MARGARET M YARD.

MY FAMILY AND I DEPEND ON THE SYSTEM AND WE DO NOT DEPEND OR SHOULDN'T WE DEPEND ON INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ELECTED TO RUN THE SYSTEM.

THERE IS A THICK LINE IN BETWEEN, REGARDLESS.

YORK SOCIAL SERVICES.

YOU RAISED THIS THICK LINE PROBABLY LONG AGO.

YORK SOCIAL SERVICES LEADERSHIP SELF PROCLAIM ITSELF AS THE LAW.

THEY DISRUPTED THE POWER, THEY ABUSE THE SYSTEM, AND THEY TARGET YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS BASED ON THEIR PERSONAL FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, LIKES AND DISLIKES.

SPECIFICALLY, MS. HENDRICKS DISOBEYED THE DMAS HERE IN OFFICER MR. DOVER'S ORDER FROM 8 24 24.

SHE FURTHER KNOWINGLY DENIED THE ONLY HEALTH COVERAGE MY 75-YEAR-OLD MOTHER COULD HAVE SINCE SHE'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICARE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS AND WHO IS ALSO NEEDS A SURGERY, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 24.

MS. HENDRICKS ALSO ENGAGED IN FRAUDULENT ACTIONS AGAINST THE DMAS, MY MOTHER AND MYSELF, BY VIOLATING THE DMAS STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES BY FABRICATING AND DELETING MY MOTHER'S DOCUMENTS FROM THE SYSTEM BY ENGAGING INTO PROVISION OF DECEPTIVE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION TO ME ON MY MOTHER'S MEDICAID CASE STATUS IN ORDER TO COVER HER ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND ACTIONS.

MS. HENDRICKS ALSO VIOLATED CIVIL RIGHTS OF MY MOTHER BY DENYING HER HEALTH COVERAGE, WHICH SHE WAS AND IS DRIVEN BY HER PERSONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS MY MOTHER.

THE DMS TEAM INVESTIGATED THE DESCRIBED ABOVE ACTIVITIES AND ACTIONS BY MS. HENDRICKS, RECOVERED AND RESTORED, DELETED DOCUMENTS FROM THE SYSTEM IN THIS CASE IS CURRENTLY PENDING WITH THE DMS APPEALS DIVISION.

MS. MCCARRICK RIDGE ENGAGED EVEN MORE DAMNING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND ACTIONS BECAUSE HER ILLEGAL ACTIONS AND ACTIVITIES WERE AGAINST MY DISABLED CHILD.

MS. RIDGE CONDUCTED TWO FAMILY SUPPORT ASSESSMENTS TO ASSESS OUR FAMILY SITUATION.

ONE IN MARCH ONE IN APRIL, 2024.

SHE INTENTIONALLY FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY HELP OR SUPPORT TO MY FAMILY, INCLUDING THE DISABLED CHILD WITH HER INTENTIONAL IMPOTENCE AND INCOMPETENCE TO HELP THE FAMILY WHO LOST THE HOUSE, WHICH IS ALSO BASED ON HER PERSONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS MY FAMILY.

SHE PROVOKED AND FOUND A CHILD ABUSE REPORT AGAINST ME AND VALIDATED SUCH REPORT FILED WITH HER CPS REPORT ON MAY 21, 24.

MEN CH TRIED TO PUNISH ME AND ATTEMPTED TO TAKE MY CHILD AWAY FROM ME.

IF MR. HORO THANK YOU SO MUCH WOULD NOT STAND UP IN MY DEFENSE AGAINST HER, MS. M RIDGE WOULD TAKE THE CHILD FROM THE MOTHER AND THE CHILD WHO IS DISABLED, NEEDS, LOVE, PERSONAL AND MEDICAL CARE, AS WELL AS SAVE A STABLE HOME TO COVER HER WRONGDOING, TO COVER HER MISDEMEANOR CLASS ONE IN REFERENCE TO UNFOUNDED AND THEREFORE FULL CHILD ABUSE REPORT AGAINST ME, WHICH WAS ALSO CLOSED ON JUNE 18TH, 2024.

MS. MKI ATTEMPTED TO TURN ME INTO A LIAR WITH UNPRECEDENTED CONSEQUENCES IN THE CIRCUIT COURT.

SHE FIRST PROVIDED DISHONEST ANSWERS TO MY PETITION TO THE COURT.

SHE SECOND INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD MY PERSONAL RECORDS OF VALIDATED CHILD ABUSE REPORT INVESTIGATION THAT SHE CONDUCTED THROUGH HER CPS AGENCY FROM ME AND FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT, WHICH WAS PERSONALLY REQUESTED FROM HER BY THE CIRCUIT COUNT PRESIDING JUDGE RISK ON JULY 26, 24.

THE CASE IS CURRENTLY PENDING WITH THE UFO COURSE ON CIRCUIT COURT.

MS. MAAR ALSO VIOLATED MY CIVIL RIGHTS BY INTENTIONALLY WITHHOLDING MY PERSONAL RECORDS OF UNFOUNDED CHILD ABUSE REPORT INVESTIGATION UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DURING OUR OPINION LITIGATION WITH THE

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CIRCUIT COURT.

WHY SOCIAL SERVICES AND ITS LEADERSHIP HATE ME AND MY FAMILY BECAUSE I STOOD UP FOR MY ELDERLY PARENTS AND FOR, UH, VIRGINIA ELDERLY BLIND AND DISABLED CITIZENS, WHICH ARE MOST VULNERABLE GROUP OF OUR SOCIETY WITH THE LOWEST INCOME BRACKET IN THE SYSTEM.

BENEFITS FOR HEALTH COVERAGE ON FEBRUARY 21, 24, YORK SOCIAL SERVICES ENGAGE IN HATE CRIME AGAINST MY FAMILY, MY CHILD, AND MYSELF BY DENYING HEALTH COVERAGE FOR MY MOTHER AND DENYING HELP THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DESPERATE FOR ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE LAWS.

OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD SHOW THAT WE HAVE A CORRUPT, CORRUPTED, AND DYSFUNCTIONAL SOCIAL SERVICES AND FAMILY SUPPORT AGENCY OPERATING AND DRIVEN BY AGENTS', PERSONAL FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, LIKE LIKES AND DISLIKES TOWARDS YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND CONSEQUENTLY, THE SAME AGENCY NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, REFORMED, AND RESTRUCTURED BY CORRESPONDENT AGENCIES.

IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS ABOVE PROPOSED ACTIONS TOWARDS YOUR SOCIAL SERVICES BECAUSE WHEN THE AGENCY ROUTINELY ENGAGES IN ACTIVITY STATED ABOVE, THEY MANIPULATE AND DESTROY FRAGILE HUMAN LIVES OF MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH DEPEND ON THE SYSTEM OR IN THIS CASE ON INDIVIDUALS WHO WAS TRUSTED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO RUN THE SYSTEM.

WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN PINEAPPLE HOUSE OF WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY COUNTY, WHERE I SEE YOUR COUNTY FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN LIVING IN ONE HOTEL SIZE ROOM.

BUT OUR YORK SOCIAL SERVICES APPEAR NOT TO SEE THE SAME.

WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE PINEAPPLE HOUSE IN OF WILLIAMSBURG OF JAMES CITY COUNTY TO BE IN THE YORK COUNTY.

I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS WHY ALL THESE FAMILIES ENDED UP THERE, BUT THERE IS A PURE HUMAN SUFFERING ONGOING BEFORE YOUR EYES WHERE THE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN AND ELDERLY THAT NEED YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.

IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF MS. RIDGE WOULD STEP DOWN FROM HER YORK SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR'S POSITION WITH THIS SCENARIO.

SHE WOULD LOSE HER HOME JUST LIKE WE DID.

AND PERHAPS SHE WOULD GET CLOSER TO THE SUFFERING PEOPLE WHO NEEDED HER HELP AND SUPPORT AND WHOM SHE FAILED TO PROVIDE THE SAME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK, THANK, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR COMMENTS.

MR. HILL.

COULD I ASK YOUR OFFICE DO TO, DO YOU NEED TO SEE THIS? IF YOU'D LIKE TO DROP IT OFF RIGHT THERE, PLEASE COULD I ASK YOUR OFFICE TO REVIEW MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, IF I JUST MAY ADVISE YOU THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IS INVOLVED RIGHT NOW IN LITIGATION WITH THIS LADY AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO COMMENT ON IT BEYOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. FR JOIN US.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY MY NAME IS JACQUE MON FRANCE.

THIS IS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW AND I LIVE AT, UH, TWO 20 CHURCH STREET, UM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE.

YORK, THE YORK RIVER.

WHOOPS.

YOU'RE GOOD.

GOTTA GOTTA RESET THE CLOCK, BUT YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE GOOD.

GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

UM, CAN I START? YOU'RE GOOD.

GO AHEAD.

I'D LIKE THE COUNTY TO REPLACE THOSE TREES WITH THE LARGEST ONES AVAILABLE FROM A LOCAL NURSERY.

AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE YORK RIVER WATERFRONT IS A MAJOR ATTRACTION FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS IN TOURISTS ALIKE.

THE TREES ARE A WELCOMING SHELTER FROM THE SUN.

THEY GREATLY ENHANCE THE PATHWAY ALONG THE RIVER WITH THEIR PRESENCE, AND NOW THEY'RE GONE.

THE REASONS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY WERE THAT THERE, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH SYMMETRY THAT THE TREES IMPAIRED THE ABILITY OF SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THE RIVERFRONT WALKWAY.

AND FINALLY, THAT THE REMOVAL WAS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A GEOTHERMAL HEAT PUMP SYSTEM.

THESE AFTER THE FACT REASONS ARE QUESTIONABLE, QUESTIONABLE AT BEST.

THE TREES WERE IN THE RESOURCE PROTECTED AREA.

THEY MITIGATE RUNOFF INTRUSIONS INTO GROUNDWATER IN NEW YORK RIVER AND NO PRIVATE CITIZEN WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO REMOVE THEM UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS AN IDA EXEMPTION, BUT SURELY THE COUNTY, UH, ENTRUSTED WITH PROTECTING THE AARY SHOULD UPHOLD THE SAME STANDARDS.

MR. DRURY, WHO REPRESENTS OUR DISTRICT, KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS.

THERE WAS NO CITIZEN INPUT LIKE THERE WAS WITH A DOCK MASTER BUILDING THAT HAS A LONG SORTED AND EXPENSIVE HISTORY IN FINALLY GETTING ACCOMPLISHED WITH CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

WAS THE DECISION JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IT DONE ON THE, ON THE SLIDE BEFORE ANY PUSHBACK COULD OCCUR, AND THEN DEALING WITH THE AFTERMATH TAXPAYER DOLLARS PAID FOR THE INITIAL PLANNING OF THOSE TREES, TAXPAYER DOLLARS PAID FOR THE REMOVAL, AND NOW WE AS TAXPAYERS HAVE TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENCES OF SUCH A SHORTSIGHTED DECISION.

IT'S NOT THE WAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK AND ONLY SERVES TO GENERATE MISTRUST.

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I'D ASK THE COUNTY NOT TO ERECT SHADE STRUCTURES TO REPLACE THEM.

I'D ASK THE COUNTY ALSO TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT IN MAKING SUCH CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS AS THIS ONE.

NEXT TIME, PUT UP A SIGN ON THIS SITE ILLUSTRATING REASONS FOR SUCH AN ACTION WITH A PHONE NUMBER WHERE CITIZENS CAN PROVIDE INPUT OR ESTABLISH A CITIZEN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR SUCH CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS.

THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER.

UH, NEXT, UH, MS. UH, ELIZABETH WILKINS.

I'M ELIZABETH WILKINS AND I LIVE AT 2 28 CHURCH STREET HERE IN YORKTOWN.

UM, IN EARLY 2023, A GROUP OF CITIZENS BEGAN A CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO PERSUADE THE PREVIOUS BOARD TO ADOPT A CODE OF ETHICS FOR ITSELF.

AT LEAST ONE OF US SPOKE AT THE MAJORITY OF PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS THAT YEAR.

AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, IT BECAME SOMETHING OF A CAMPAIGN ISSUE FOR THE BOS CANDIDATES, AND A NUMBER OF YOU EXPRESSED YOUR SUPPORT.

MEANWHILE, THOUGH, PRINCESS CRUISE LINE'S ASSAULT ON YORKTOWN TOOK OVER THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE IN THE COUNTY AND A CODE OF ETHICS TOOK A BACKSEAT.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO RAISE THIS ISSUE AGAIN, AND I THOUGHT I'D REMIND YOU.

AND THOSE LISTENING OF THE BENEFITS OF SUCH A CODE CODES OF ETHICS GUIDE AND REMIND OFFICIALS TO ALWAYS PUT PUBLIC INTEREST OVER PERSONAL INTEREST.

CODES OF ETHICS PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS.

CODES OF ETHICS ENCOURAGE A PERCEPTION OF FAIRNESS AND INSTITUTIONAL INTEGRITY IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

INCREASED PUBLIC TRUST INSPIRES GREATER CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.

CODES OF ETHICS FO FOSTER NONPARTISAN COHESION AND INCLUSIVITY RATHER THAN DIVISION IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

AT A TIME WHEN PARTISAN POLITICS SO OFTEN DRIVES PUBLIC CONVERSATION, I HAD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT VIRTUALLY ALL AREA MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING GLOUCESTER, MATTHEWS, WILLIAMSBURG, AND JAMES CITY COUNTY IN OUR REGION, HAVE ADOPTED SUCH CODES, WHEREAS YORK HAS NOT.

INTERESTINGLY, THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA ACTUALLY REQUIRES ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADOPT A CODE OF ETHICS.

YORK COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE ARE SUBJECT TO CODES OF CONDUCT THROUGHOUT THE PERSONNEL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

MANUAL ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE HELD TO SIMILAR STANDARDS.

PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE REGION AND ADOPT A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CODE OF ETHICS.

JAMES CITY'S CODE PROVIDES AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE, AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THE OBVIOUS QUE QUESTION, WHY WOULD A GOVERNING BODY RE RESIST ADOPTING SUCH A CODE? THANK YOU.

AND NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. LEE GIBSON.

I WOULD MAKE IS DAYCARE FOR NOT MORE THAN FOUR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 13 IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES THE MIC IS A LITTLE OFF.

MY NAME IS LEE GIBSON.

I RESIDE AT 2 65 KINGS COURT IN THE QUEENS LAKE DISTRICT.

UH, I HAVE A VERY BRIEF COMMENT THAT'S, UH, IN REGARDS TO HOME OCCUPATIONS BY RIGHT IN THE ZONING PART OF THE CODE.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PORTION OF THAT COMING UP AFTER THE, THIS SESSION.

UH, THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES, AND IT'S JUST A SLIGHT CHANGE THAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST.

UH, SPECIFICALLY IT'S IN REGARD TO 24.1 2 8 2 8 2 1.

AND I'LL READ DAYCARE FOR NOT MORE THAN FOUR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 13, EXCLUSIVE OF THE PROVIDER'S OWN CHILDREN IN ANY CHILDREN WHO RESIDE IN THE HOME AS RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY BY A SINGLE FAMILY.

I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST A SIMPLE CHANGE TO THIS CODE.

UH, ONE THAT'S MIMICKED IN SEVERAL LOCALITIES AROUND THE AREA THAT WOULD ADD SOME SPECIFICITY, SPECIFICITY AND CLARITY TO THE CODE, UH, SO THAT THERE'S LESS ARGUMENT AMONG THE NEIGHBORS AND TO CONTROL TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AS THE BUYRIGHT OCCUPATIONS ARE TENDED TO STRUCTURE FOR NON-HIGH TRAFFIC ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

SO THE ONE SUGGESTION

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IT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS IN A FOUR HOUR PERIOD, A TWO HOUR PERIOD, A ONE HOUR PERIOD.

THESE OBVIOUSLY WILL DRIVE TRAFFIC AND DISRUPTION INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CAUSE SPATS AS IT WERE.

UM, THIS IS HOW CHESAPEAKE DEFINES IT.

THIS IS HOW NEW NEWPORT NEWS DEFINES IT.

GLOUCESTER, UH, MAYBE SOME OTHER LOCALITIES THAT I HAVE NOT, THEY ALL SPECIFY THE 24 HOUR PERIOD FOR THE LIMITATIONS ON NUMBER OF CHILDREN.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SUGGEST.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS.

THAT WAS THE LAST PERSON I HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

UH, DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND SHARE A FEW, FEW THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD.

EXCUSE ME.

AND I WILL MOVE ON TO,

[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]

I HAVE NOTHING THIS EVENING, CHAIRMAN.

THEN COUNTY, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION REPORTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]

MR. BELLA, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.

UH, I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE, TO START WITH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE INTRODUCTIONS.

UH, MS. GOODWIN HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE, BUT SHE WASN'T ON THE PAYROLL AT THE MOMENT, BUT TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT SHE IS AND INTRODUCE HER TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, SHE IS JOINED YORK COUNTY AS THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND IN THIS ROLE, UH, MS. GOODWIN WILL OVERSEE THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR THERESA OWENS, TO SUPPORT THE, TO SUPPORT AND ENHANCE THE COUNTY'S SOUND FISCAL POLICIES.

UH, HONESTLY, SUSAN'S SUSAN'S FINANCE BACKGROUND AS A WELCOME ADDITION TO YORK COUNTY AND ADDS A GREAT LAYER OF EXPERTISE TO AN ALREADY EXCEPTIONAL FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND UPON THE CONCLUSION OF THE BUDGET CYCLE, WHICH WE WILL START IN DECEMBER, UH, I ANTICIPATE THAT SUSAN'S ROLE WILL EXPAND TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.

UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UH, SHE WAS RAISED HERE ON THE PENINSULA, BEEN A YORK COUNTY RESIDENT SINCE, UH, 2009, AND LAST MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH WAS HER FIRST DAY HERE.

AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HER.

WELCOME OFFICIALLY TO, TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE BOARD HERE.

AND I SEE A LITTLE LIKE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE DYNAMIC DUO DEVELOPING BACK THERE WITH OUR FINANCIAL, UH, THANK YOU.

THANKS.

WELCOME ABOARD.

AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT, UH, ADDITION TO THE YORK COUNTY TEAM.

UH, TANYA COLES IS THE NEW CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES MANAGER.

UH, SHE HAS OVER 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

UH, MRS. COLES HAS WORKED IN THE FIELDS OF HOME VISITING MENTAL HEALTH AND EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

SHIELDS AN ENDORSEMENT AS AN INFANT FAMILY SPECIALIST, WHICH DEMONSTRATES HER COMMITMENT TO BUILDING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH INFANTS, YOUNG CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES.

SHE IS A CERTIFIED FAMILY SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL AND SERVES AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF INFANT MENTAL HEALTH.

GIVEN HER EXPERIENCE AND PASSION FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE THINK SHE'S GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE TEAM AND REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HER BEING HERE.

AND, AND ONTO A TOPIC OF, UH, 180 OUT.

UH, MR. KRIEGER WANTED ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, BUG FEST IS BACK, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 28TH.

UH, BUG FEST WILL BE HELD AT GRAFT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THERE'LL BE LOTS OF BUG THEME ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS AND THE ADULTS THAT ARE PARTIAL TO BUGS.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS INVOLVED IN THIS EVENT INCLUDE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, THE MASTER GARDENERS, THE MASTER NATURALISTS, ODU, COLONIAL BEEKEEPERS, AND THE BUTTERFLY SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA.

SO IT IS QUITE THE EVENT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MORE THAN 40 TABLES AND ACTIVITIES.

WHERE IS IT FOR THE PARTICIPANTS? IT IS AT GRAFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL ON THE 28TH FROM 10 TO TWO, I BELIEVE IT IS.

ION MIDDLE.

GRAFTON MIDDLE, YES, MA'AM.

UH, MR. SHEPHERD MADE COMMENT DURING ONE OF THESE MEETINGS THAT, UH, THERE WERE THINGS LIKE UTILITIES AND BIKE LANES AND SUCH THAT THE BOARD USED TO SEE AND REGULARLY COMMENT ON.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MAKE COMMENT ON IS, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE NEXT SECTION OF YOUR PROGRAM, AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS, IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR, THERE IS A TOPIC ON, UH, REVENUE SHARING.

AND SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE REVENUE SHARING, UH, USED HERE IN THE COUNTY FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION, BIKE, BIKE LANE CONSTRUCTION.

UM, AND SO I, I WANNA HIT ON THAT TOPIC TONIGHT.

UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO,

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SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS, UH, BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

WE RECOGNIZED THAT IT DID NEED TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD.

SO PUBLIC WORKS HAS PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE'RE GONNA CALL THE PUBLIC WORK STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLAN.

AND WE HOPE TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AT A WORK SESSION.

WE HAVE, UH, IT'S READY TO GO, I BELIEVE FOR THE MOST PART, BUT WE HAVE HELD ON IT BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD SO MANY PLANNING ISSUES ON YOUR AGENDA.

BUT WE DID WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S OUT THERE.

WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? Y'ALL GOOD? NO, SIR.

UH, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER MR. HILL OR MR. BELLA? SO, GO AHEAD, MR. HILL.

YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK.

UH, .

SO, UH, MARK, UH, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I WHEN YOU SAID THE, THE STRATEGIC CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN.

NOW, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

IT WAS BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS WHEN WE CALLED THE EDS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD YES.

DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND FOR THE FELLOW SUPERVISORS TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS IS THOSE PLANS WHEN IT CAME TO STORMWATER, IT CAME TO, TO ANYTHING, OKAY.

UH, THAT WE WERE WORKING ON.

UM, THAT, UH, AND SOME OF THESE THINGS TOOK, I MEAN, LITERALLY TOOK ALMOST 15 YEARS TO GET DONE, BUT IT WAS A PRIORITIZATION OF THE PROJECTS.

THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, UH, WHEN THE BOARD, UH, WOULD, I MEAN, I REMEMBER AT ONE TIME WHEN I, I'VE TALLIED UP THE TOTAL AMOUNT, THERE WERE LIKE $78 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IN THE, IN THE LIST.

AND I MEAN, SOME OF 'EM WERE PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

MORRIS CREEK WITH $6 MILLION, AND THEN WE DID QUEENS LAKE SEWER SYSTEM OVER THERE.

I CAN'T HOW MANY MILLIONS THAT COST.

AND IT TOOK, IT TOOK A LOT OF THE MONEY AWAY FROM ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT THE POINT IS, THE BOARD GETS INVOLVED IN THESE BY THE PRIORITIZATION, THE BOARD LOOKS AT IT, WE DETERMINE THAT, OKAY, YES, WE AGREE WITH THE PRIORITIZATION, BUT, BUT WHAT THE STAFF NEEDS TO DO WITH THIS IS THAT THEY COME IN WITH A RATIONALE OF WHY THESE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GRADE, IF YOU GRADE, I PUT IT WAY WE GRADED THEM IS WHAT THEY WERE, AND THEY GRADED THE PROJECTS AND HE SAID, OKAY, THE GRADE IS COULD BE CONGESTION OR, OR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO OR WHATEVER THE GRADE IS.

WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

AND YOU AND THE BOARDS KIND OF HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT.

SO WHEN WE DID TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, UH, AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL HERE, WE, BUT WE DIDN'T COME IN WITH A PROJECT AND SAID, OKAY, THEN WE'LL MAKE UP, MAKE UP WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA AGREE ON.

WE, WHAT WE DID IS WE AGREED ON THE CRITERIA FOR THE PROJECT AND THEN THE MONEY THAT THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE PUT THAT WITHIN THE MONEY.

SO THAT'S MY EXPECTATION FOR, FOR, FOR THIS BOARD TO SEE THAT SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

NOW, SOME OF, SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE GONNA UPSET SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

YOU'RE GONNA BE UPSET.

BUT THE POINT IS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PATIENCE BECAUSE LIKE IN THE, LIKE IN THE REVENUE SHARING WITH, WITH THESE TRAFFIC, REMEMBER WE USED TO GET, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL ALMOST GIVE UP BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE 15, 20 YEARS AND YOU JUST HAD TO WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT.

BUT, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MONEY.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY EXPECTATION OF SEEING THIS.

THE CRITERIA, THE PROJECTS AND THE GRID, THE BOARD'S GONNA VOTE ON, WE'LL VOTE ON WHETHER WE ACCEPT IT OR NOT.

SO MR. SHEPHERD TO GIVE, UH, GIVE SOME CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUE, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF EDS AND THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, BRIAN WOODWARD, HE, HE WAS THE AUTHOR OF THAT MM-HMM.

AND BRIAN PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YEARS AGO.

OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ANYBODY? YES.

AND THIS IS REALLY A TEMPLATE OF THAT WITH SOME MODERN DAY TOUCHES.

UH, AND ONE THING THAT WE'RE ADDING, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE, IS REALLY, THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY STORM WATER SEWER, BUT THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, ROADWAYS, THE THINGS THAT WE CONTROL.

SO IT'S REALLY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US.

SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE BELIEVE.

AND THERE'S ENOUGH PROJECTS, THERE'S, IT IS NOT LIKE A ONE OF A KIND OR, YOU KNOW, ONE OFF KIND OF THING.

IT'S, THERE'S ENOUGH PROJECTS IN IT THAT REQUIRES THIS EFFORT.

WELL, MR. BELLAMY, I WAS EXPECTING YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE QUEENS LAKE DAYCARE, UH, SYSTEM.

YOU PUT OUT A MEMO LAST FRIDAY, I THINK.

UM, WE NEED TO COVER THAT AND, UH, EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, CONCLUSIONS YOU'VE COME TO, AND THEN PERHAPS HAVE MR. HILL COMMENT ON THE, THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF, UH, OF WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE DOE.

YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME, UH, BORROW THE MEMO HERE FOR A SECOND.

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SO WE'VE HAD, STAFF HAS HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT GOVERNS THIS DAYCARE AND WHAT DOESN'T, UH, A DAYCARE, WHETHER YOU CALL IT A DAYCARE, A DAY SCHOOL, ET CETERA.

SO WHAT WHAT I ASKED FOR WAS FOR OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, WHICH IS IN CHARGE OF, UH, THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES MOSTLY FOR THE COUNTY.

I ASKED SHERRY NEWCOMB TO LOOK AT THIS COMMENT ON IT, IF WE HAD ANY PURVIEW HERE, UH, LEGALLY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

THE ANSWER WAS NO.

UM, I ASKED MS UH, YA ALSO TO COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL AS SHE DEALS WITH MANY OF THESE SERVICES AS WELL.

UH, WE, WE HAVE VERY LIMITED AUTHORITY OVER WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

AND FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THERE WAS NOT A LOT THAT WE COULD DO.

WE, WE REACHED OUT TO MR. HILL'S OFFICE, THEY'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THIS, AND HE, HE MAY WANNA SHARE SOME OF THAT WITH YOU.

SO THANK YOU, UM, MR. ROY, AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

THE, THE ISSUE IS, AND I BELIEVE THE SPEAKER THAT WAS UP HERE A FEW MOMENTS AGO ARTICULATED THE ISSUE IS THAT THE CODE, STATE CODE, UH, EXEMPTS, UH, ANY DAYCARE THAT TAKE, THAT PROVIDES FOR, UH, FEWER THAN FIVE CHILDREN IN NOT INCLUDING CHILDREN THAT RESIDE IN THE HOUSE FROM STATE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS.

AND OUR LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCE ALSO PROVIDES, UH, A BUYRIGHT, UH, FOR THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES TO BE PERMITTED IN HOMES BY RIGHT.

USING THE SAME CRITERIA.

UH, WE LOOKED AT THE QUESTION TO DETERMINE THE, THE CRITICAL ISSUE IS I, AND THE, THE, THE PRIMARY ISSUE THAT'S COME UP WITH RESPECT TO THE DAYCARE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED IS THAT APPARENTLY THERE ARE THE, UH, WHAT'S ASSERTED IS THAT THERE'S MORE THAN FOUR CHILDREN, UM, IN, IN AGGREGATE.

AND, AND DURING A DAY OR DURING A WEEK, IT MIGHT BE FOUR CHILDREN, UH, OR EIGHT CHILDREN.

UH, BUT IT'S NEVER MORE THAN FOUR CHILDREN AT ONE SINGLE TIME.

AND, UM, MRS. CONSTANTINO IN MY OFFICE, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND, UH, WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, BOTH OF WHOM, UH, CONCLUDED THAT THE STATE INTERPRETS THE FOUR LIMITATION AS BEING AT ANY ONE GIVEN TIME.

SO THE STATE INTERPRETS THE REQUIREMENT AS APPLYING TO ANY ONE GIVEN MOMENT.

IF YOU GO AND YOU FIND FOUR CHILDREN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE STATE AND THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM THE LICENSURE REQUIREMENTS.

AND OUR ZONING DEPARTMENT HAS INTERPRETED THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT AND IN, IN, IN A SIMILAR FASHION TO THE WAY THAT THE STATE HAS INTERPRETED THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO AS THE, AS THE GENTLEMAN POINTED OUT, YOU THERE COULD BE CHANGES MADE, BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, OUR ORDINANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE STATE HAS SET FORTH THE REQUIREMENTS.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND FROM MS. STAN'S, UH, LETTER THAT WE DO HAVE PERHAPS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, UM, MATCH WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE REGION HAVE THAT WE ARE NOT, UH, PREVENTED FROM HAVING, FOR INSTANCE, AN SUP UH, REQUIREMENT, OR THAT WE COULD STEP THE LIMIT AT SAY SIX INSTEAD OF FOUR.

UH, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THAT I THINK IS THE FOLLOW UP, UH, FOR THE HPB TASK TEAM, UH, WHEN WE FINALLY PUT THAT TOGETHER TO DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES.

MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT IF WE MAKE THESE CHANGES, IT'S THE, UH, BUSINESS IN QUESTION IS GRANDFATHERED.

IT'S CLEARLY THE CURRENT, I I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO RENDER OR MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S HYPOTHETICAL THAT HASN'T OCCURRED.

UM, GRANDFATHERING OR WHATEVER DETERMINATIONS ARE HIGHLY FACTUALLY SPECIFIC AND THEY DEPEND ON THE THINGS.

BUT ORDINARILY EXISTING BUSINESSES AND USES THAT ARE EXISTING IN A CERTAIN WAY WHEN A CHANGE IS MADE ORDINARILY ARE DEEMED TO BE, UM, NONCONFORMING USES OR GRANDFATHERED IN IN SOME

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WAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

SO, YES, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT ON THIS EXISTING BUSINESS OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT ORDINARILY SPOKEN LIKE A LAWYER.

THANK YOU, .

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WELL, LET, LET ME CHIME IN ON THIS BRIEFLY.

UM, I, UNDER, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE DUE DILIGENCE YOUR OFFICE HAS DONE IN CHECKING INTO THIS.

UM, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WE, WE MAY BE LIMITED AND HOW WE ADDRESS, ADDRESS IT, BUT MY TAKEAWAY FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THERE IS A DAYCARE PROVIDER IN OPERATION THERE, BUT IT IS SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT THEY, THAT HAPPENS ON PREM WHILE THEY'RE PERFORMING, SERVING, THAT, PROVIDING THAT, UH, THAT SERVICE THAT IS VERY DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

I MEAN, DON'T WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS? WHAT, WHAT'S, WHERE ARE WE AT? I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR OTHER THINGS IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I BELIEVE HERE IS, WELL, I, I USE THE WORD PROBLEM LOOSELY, BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES IS COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAVEL AND PARKING.

AND I WOULD SIMPLY REMIND THE BOARD THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS ON A PUBLIC VDOT ROAD FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO REALLY, THERE ARE NO REAL RESTRICTIONS IN INVO IN TERMS OF PARKING OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.

AND THAT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

UM, OTHER COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE AND THINGS OF THAT SORT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED RE INDIVIDUALLY BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE COMPLAINT.

I DO KNOW THAT MANY NOISE ISSUES ARE PERMITTED IF THE USE IS A PERMITTED USE.

BUT I, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A COLLATERAL ISSUE.

BUT I, I THINK THAT MAY BE THE DRIVER THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

AND I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO SOLVE THIS HERE TONIGHT.

BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS TO GIVE THE, THE COMMUNITY RELIEF AND LET THE COMMUNITY EXIST IN HARMONY.

SO WE MAY NEED TO THINK BEYOND WHAT STATE REGULATIONS MAY OR MAY NOT SAY WE CAN DO AND SEE THE OTHER WAYS TO ADDRESS IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

THAT'S FAIR.

I APPRECIATE THAT INPUT.

UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE COMING UP ON SEVEN 30.

WE NEED TO TAKE QUICK, I WASN'T QUITE DONE.

ONE MORE FROM MR. ANOTHER ONE.

GO.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUMPING THE GUN.

YOU'RE GOOD.

I THINK WE'VE HEARD THIS DISCUSSION ON AN ETHICS POLICY MANY, MANY TIMES.

UM, I, MY QUESTION FOR MR. BELLAMY, DO, DO SENIOR STAFF SIGN AN ETHICS POLICY? THEY DO NOT.

THEY DO NOT, BUT THEY ARE ALL HELD.

SHE SPOKE ABOUT THE CODE OF CONDUCT THAT THE COUNTY HAS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE POLICY MANUAL.

AND WHEN THEY'RE HIRED, THEIR OFFER LETTER ADDRESSES ALL THAT, AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE HELD TO THOSE STANDARDS WHEN THEY SIGN OFF ON THEIR OFFER LETTER.

MY RECOMME, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING WOULD BE TO BRING FORWARD THAT CODE OF CONDUCT DISCUSSION TO THIS BOARD AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER IT.

UM, I COULD SHARE WITH YOU THAT MR. ROY HAS DONE SOME WORK ON THIS BEFORE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT TO, UH, THE PREVIOUS BOARD.

WE WILL PULL IT OUTTA THE ARCHIVES AND SEND IT BACK TO YOU AND LET YOU LOOK AT IT.

MOVE INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE NIGHT.

I THINK SPECIFIC TO WHAT IS THE CODE OF CONDUCT THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE FOR YOUR STAFF? SIR, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR THE STAFF OR FOR THE BOARD? NO, I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE CONSIDER THE STAFF CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THE BOARD.

I OH, OKAY.

CERTAINLY WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

SO, UH, WE'RE SITTING AT SEVEN 30.

WE NEED TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS.

AND, UM, SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M GONNA DEFER THE, UM, COMMENTS, UM, SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'M GONNA BRING US INTO RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH, I HAVE QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT FOLKS, GET READY.

COME BACK OFF RECESS, GET READY TO GET STARTED AGAIN AND GONNA

[4. Application Nos. ST-024-24 and ZT-199-24 York County Planning Commission. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-17(R) to amend various sections of the York County Subdivision Ordinance (Chapter 20.5) and the York County Zoning Ordinance (Chapter 24.1), in the York County Code.]

UM, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THE, UM, ROSE ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 17 R TO AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF YORK COUNTY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND YORK COUNTY ZONE ORDINANCE IN THE COUNTY CODE.

AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.

SO HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS TO BRING THIS A TERM.

SO I THINK WE HAVE OUR SPEAKER READY TO GO.

OUR PRESENTER READY TO GO.

YOU MENTIONED, MR. ROH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, OVER THE SPAN OF YOUR AUGUST 20TH MEETING WHERE THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED AND THEN AGAIN AT THE WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

GOOD EVENING, FOLKS.

SO, AS

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SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO HERE IS VERY BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE CHANGES THAT STAFF MADE TO TWO YEAR PROPOSED ADOPTING ORDINANCE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM YOU OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE TWO MEETINGS.

SO THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE TO OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS WE STRUCK THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FILING FEE.

THAT'S THE DEFINITION SECTION.

IN 24 1, 1 0 4.

THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED A CHANGE FROM, FOR ICE VENDING MACHINES.

THE DEFINITION HAD A HEIGHT MAXIMUM OF 15 FEET.

THE BOARD CONCURRED WITH THAT.

SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE.

24 1 1 0 8 HAD THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FILING FEE AGAIN AT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION.

WE REMOVED THAT 24 1 2 51, UM, DIRECTION FOR, THAT'S THAT ONE MILE TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT PROPOSED SECTION, THE INITIAL PROPOSED MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR USE THAT WOULD TRIGGER THAT WAS 80,000 SQUARE FEET AT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION.

WE INCREASED THAT TO 200,000 SQUARE FEET, ONLY CHANGE TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE TABLE OF LAND USES IN CATEGORY FIVE.

AND EDUCATION USES DISCUSSION ABOUT YORK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND THE BOARD DIRECTED US TO PRESERVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR YORK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

AND THEN FOR THE NEW USE PRIVATE INSTRUCTION, INITIALLY WE HAD PROPOSED TO MAKE THAT BY, RIGHT IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION, THAT'S GONNA BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WELL.

LAST ONE IN FOUR 40, WE PROPOSED A CHANGE TO, THAT'S WHAT I DISCUSSED, THAT TEMPORARY ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT AND NOT REQUIRING THAT FOR A LARGE BIG BOX STORE THAT HAD ROTATING SEASONAL DISPLAYS PER THE BOARD'S FEEDBACK, YOU STILL WANTED SOME OVERSIGHT OVER THAT.

AND SO WHAT WE PROPOSED WAS IN EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE ADMIN PERMIT, NORMALLY IT'S 120 DAYS.

IF YOU'RE A LARGE RETAIL STORE, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, IT'S GONNA BE 365 DAYS.

AND JUST WANNA MENTION A REALLY SMALL TEXTUAL CHANGE AT MR. HOY'S SUGGESTION.

WE, FOR WAREHOUSES IN THE, UM, FOR MAKING WHERE LIKE A MILLION SQUARE FEET, UH, INSTEAD OF WAREHOUSE, IT NOW SAYS WAREHOUSES.

THAT'S THE SUM OF THOSE CHANGES.

SO WE'RE HERE FOR STAFF.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FROM PRIOR ITEMS WE'VE DISCUSSED OR ANY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES, THANK YOU.

SO OPEN UP THE BOARD QUESTIONS, MR. SHEPHERD.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE VERY BEGINNING TALK ABOUT THAT ONE $130 THING.

AND WE HAD QUITE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.

AND, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IN THIS CONTACT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT I THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO IS IF WE, THE, THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION WAS WHY DID WE HAVE IT? MM-HMM.

AND I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHY WE SHOULD, WHY WE HAD IT.

NOT THAT I WAS NECESSARILY SUPPORT OF IT, BUT IT WAS WHY WE HAD, IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS A UNIQUE EVENT, UH, BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT HAVE.

THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT.

THEREFORE, THEY, THEY PAY FOR IT, WHICH IS WHY OUR OTHER $130 BILLS ARE HANDED OUT.

OKAY? NOW, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS SOME FRIVOLITY, IF YOU WILL, BY THE PEOPLE THAT JUST TAKE THESE THINGS AND JUST GO BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

AND THE BOARDS, I THOUGHT THE BOARD'S DISCUSSION WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO START JACKING UP THE COST.

YOU COULD DO THE A HUNDRED OR WE COULD DO, MAYBE THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE FREE, BUT AFTER THAT IT WAS GONNA THEN START COSTING YOU AND IT WOULD EXPONENTIALLY GO UP.

MM-HMM, .

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE, THERE WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, JERKING OUR COUNTY STAFF AROUND.

SO WHAT WE DID HERE IS WE'RE GONNA, AS WE, UM, MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE, WE WERE FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THOSE FEES AND HOW WE CHARGE THAT.

SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WE INITIALLY PROPOSED TO HAVE THAT AMENDMENT.

WE'RE JUST GONNA STRIKE THAT FOR NOW.

AND THEN WHEN WE DO THAT COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL THE FEES, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.

SO IT'S NO HARDSHIP FOR THE STAFF FOR US TO DO THAT.

OKAY? OKAY.

YEAH, NO WORRIES.

MR. JURY LET YOU GO NEXT.

MRS. NOLAN? NO, MS. TORY.

ANYBODY WISH TO COME TO THE PODIUM NOW? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24 DASH 17 R.

YEAH, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ON THIS SO FAR.

SO AGAIN, GOOD JOB GETTING US HERE.

UM, I WILL NOT OPEN, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.

DOES

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DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT THAT WE HAVEN'T SAID ALREADY? JUST A POINT OF ORDER.

MR. CHAIRMAN, DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? I THOUGHT WE HAD THE, THE HOME-BASED BUSINESS ZONING ORDINANCE.

THAT'S NEXT.

SO I GOT 'EM IN REVERSE ORDER ON OUR AGENDA.

WELL, I, I, I'M LOOKING WELL, I'M LOOKING ON.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, WE DIDN'T LEAVE SOMETHING OUT.

YEAH, WE'RE, THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.

WITH FITS ALL.

UM, NEXT IS A CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 14 R TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT OF THE HOME OCCUPATIONAL REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN NEW YORK COUNTY CODE.

SO ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.

SO LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOWLES TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 17 R TO AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE YORK COUNTY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE YORK COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE IN THE YORK COUNTY CODE.

[5. Application No. ZT-185-20 – Home Occupations: Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-14(R) to approve the amendment of the Home Occupation Regulations set forth in the York County Code.]

OUR HOME-BASED BUSINESS ORDINANCE.

UM, MR. ANDERSON, YOU'RE GONNA SHARE A FEW WORDS WITH US.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ANDERSON.

SO AT YOUR DIRECTION, UM, I HAD GONE IN AND ADJUSTED THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, KEEPING SOME OF THE SMALLER DETAILS THAT THE HOMEBASED BUSINESS COMMITTEE DID TO ADJUST THE ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO GOING TOWARDS THE DIRECTION YOU HAD GIVEN ME ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE VISIBLE VERSUS INVISIBLE AND WHETHER THEY NEEDED TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR NOT.

SO I ADJUSTED THE ORDINANCE, UM, IN THOSE PLACES.

UH, BASICALLY, UM, KEEPING THE, THE WHOLE FRONT PORTION.

UM, AND UH, WHERE WE HAD, WHERE THE HOME BASED BUSINESS COMMITTEE HAD RECOGNIZ OR HAD RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE SECTION 2 82 HERE, I HAVE PUT ALL OF THOSE BACK IN THERE.

UM, THESE ARE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

UM, BUT I DID STRIKE THE, UM, THE USES HERE, WHICH WERE FOR TUTORING, MUSIC PHOTOGRAPHY, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOMEONE TO VISIT THE HOME, UM, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE USES.

SO I HAVE STRUCK THOSE.

SO THOSE WOULD THEN BE A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT.

UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT SECTION IS STILL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

UH, NO CHANGES THERE, UM, TO ANY KIND OF EXTENT.

I'M GONNA SCROLL VERY QUICKLY TO THE BOTTOM.

UH, THAT, THAT'S THE DOCK DOCKING THINGS THAT WE, WE HAD REMO THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD SUGGESTED REMOVE.

UM, AND THEN IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SECTION, WHICH I'M ALMOST THERE, UM, WE ADDED, WE KEPT IN THE, THE HOME WHAT THE HOME BASE COMMITTEE HAD A HAD, UM, RECOGNIZED FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.

UM, SO THAT THAT SECTION WOULD BE IN THERE ALSO.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL PRO PROHIBITED USES, UM, THAT HAD BEEN GENERATED FROM THE COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO THE DISCUSSION THAT I HAD HAD WITH YOU, UM, THE OTHER USES THAT WERE ADDED IN THERE.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING FOR YOU TONIGHT, UM, TO CONSIDER.

UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, DISCUSS.

SO LET'S TALK TO MY RIGHT MR. ROY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ANDERSON? WELL, MR. HENDERSON AND I HAD A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION LAST WEEK, UM, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THE CHANGES HERE DON'T REFLECT THE INPUT THAT I HAD SENT IN ON, I THINK IT WAS 2ND OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH WAS THE DEADLINE FOR US TO COMMENT ON IT.

AND AFTER, AFTER REVIEWING THAT, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE CONSIDER PULLING TOGETHER A TASK TEAM TO GO THROUGH THIS ONE LAST TIME AND GET, AND GET, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED.

AND I SPOKE TO MR. DAVIDSON, WHO WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE COMMITTEE.

I SPOKE TO MRS. HOWELL.

THEY WOULD BOTH BE DELIGHTED TO DO THAT FOR US.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONSIDER TAKE, CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

BUT CONSIDER PULLING A TASK TEAM TOGETHER TO GET THIS RESOLVED ONCE, ONCE AND FOR ALL AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT CLEANED UP BEFORE IT COMES TO THE BOARD.

WHAT WERE THE ISSUES OKAY.

THAT YOU PAGES OF THEM, I CAN GO THROUGH THEM.

WE CAN GO THROUGH LINE ONE.

NO, THAT'S, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS, GOING THROUGH THIS AND, AND WE WERE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND THE FEEDBACK DIDN'T MAKE IT IN.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, MR. ANDERSON AND I BOTH CONCLUDED IT'S POINTLESS TO TAKE UP THE BOARD'S TIME TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE POINTS.

UH, WE'D, WE'D LIKE IT TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE AND GET IT DONE AND BROUGHT BACK AS ONE CLEAN DOCUMENT.

THANK, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. ANDERSON WHILE HE, UM, I WOULD HAVE PAGES OF QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THAT LIST THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE SO MANY.

LET'S NOT DO THAT.

SO MANY PAGES.

THAT'S WHAT MY PROBLEM IS WITH

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THIS.

WELL, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ANDERSON? OKAY.

OH, MR. DUR.

I THINK IT'S FINE IF IT IS.

NO, I, I WOULD BE WITH DOUG IF WE CAN SEND IT BACK, UM, TO THE COMMITTEE, LET THEM TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND NOT WASTE ANY MORE OF OUR TIME ON IT, ACTUALLY.

MR. SHEPHERD.

I, I DON'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER THIS A WASTE OF TIME.

UM, 'CAUSE IT WENT THE COMMITTEE, UH, FROM, FROM WHAT I SAW, THE COMMITTEE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO SIMPLIFY THE WHOLE PROCESS.

WE ENDED UP WITH SOME SLIGHT VARIATIONS.

I I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOUR OPINION IN TOTAL, HOW, HOW MUCH DID WE DEVIATE FROM THE COMMITTEE? UM, A PRETTY DECENT AMOUNT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE HAD, UM, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR HOME-BASED BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND OPERATE ON A BUY RIGHT BASIS RATHER THAN REQUIRING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.

SO COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE HAD, UH, RECOGNIZED HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY AS LONG AS IT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE PARKING AND, UM, ON THE PROPERTY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, AND THE INSTRUCTION THAT I GOT FROM THE BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A LITTLE TOO EXTREME THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ABLE TO REVIEW AND HAVE PUBLIC INPUT ON CASES WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE VISITING THE HOME.

UM, AND IN YOUR OPINION, UM, IN TOTAL, WE GAVE YOU INSTRUCTIONS LAST TIME, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

WE GAVE YOU INPUT AND THAT'S INCORPORATED IN THIS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

UM, AS BEST AS I COULD REFERENCE IT.

AND I KNOW THAT MR. HORO, HE DID SEND ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND, UM, SUGGESTIONS IN HIS WRITTEN UP DOCUMENT AS WELL AS, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD, WHY I KEEP DRAGGING THIS ON.

I'M TRYING TO, I MEAN, WE HAD A CITIZEN GROUP GET, GET THERE AND GIVE US, UH, THEIR LEARNING OPINION.

I, I REMEMBER, UM, WE GOT A NICE LONG INPUT FROM, UH, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND, UH, MS. KANAB.

AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT SHE, I, OUR POINTS WERE PRETTY WELL MADE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HERE SAT THROUGH A MEETING AND, UH, DISCUSSED THIS.

I DON'T KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND REVISIT THIS THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN TILL IT NEVER GETS RESOLVED.

WELL, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS TO HOW EXTENSIVE THE CHANGES SHOULD BE TO, UM, THE ORDINANCE.

UM, I KNOW THAT MR. HORO HAD PROPOSED A LOT MORE, UM, OR PROHIBITED USES ESPECIALLY, AND I GOT INPUT FROM DIANE HOWELL WHO, UM, HAD MADE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO MAKE IT TO WHAT SHE FELT WAS MORE OF A READABLE ORDINANCE.

UM, AND WE, I JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO GO BACK TO EACH OF THOSE GROUP, MR. HORO AND MRS. HOW, AND JUST KIND OF WORK THROUGH HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT.

THE TIME WAS JUST NOT THERE.

I JUST PREPARED THIS ORDINANCE BASED ON THE INPUT THAT YOU ALL HAD GIVEN ME BEFORE.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, MR. ROY'S RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO ALLOW AT LEAST ONE, UM, ADDITIONAL CLIENT OR CUSTOMER TO BE PRESENT ON THE SITE.

UM, WHERE YOUR DIRECTION TO ME, THE, WELL, THE MAJORITY DIRECTION LAST TIME WAS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

AND SO HIS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ALL HAD TOLD ME YOU WANTED TO DO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T INCORPORATE 'EM NECESSARILY IN THIS.

UM, I FIGURED YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT, WE COULD.

UM, BUT I DO SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH MR. ROY THEN MAY BE BETTER TO LET THE CHAMBER AND MRS. HOWELL AS THE RESIDENT, UM, KIND OF DISCUSS THEM.

UM, AND I HAD SUGGESTED, UH, BRINGING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER THAT WAS CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE, MR. TITUS, AND HAVING THE THREE OF THEM KIND OF SIT DOWN AND HASH OUT SOME OF THESE DIFFERENCES THAT THE TWO GROUPS HAVE, UM, TO COME TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS RATHER THAN MAKING YOU ALL SIT BACK THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND GO LINE BY LINE THROUGH IT.

WELL, WE, OKAY.

SO IF, IF, IF, UM, IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, WE STILL HAVE A, WE HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE.

WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE WHAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THE WHOLE GOAL WAS SOMEHOW TO MAKE THIS THING BETTER.

RIGHT? IT WAS TO MAKE IT MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

CORRECT.

SO I'M OKAY WITH KEEPING WHAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON IT.

UM, AND I JUST, UH, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I I, IN MY MIND, IF WE'RE GOING, I MEAN, I CAN'T RE BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE STUFF WE WENT THROUGH LAST TIME.

BUT, UH, THE POINT IS, THE POINT IS HERE, WE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA JUMP, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA GO JUMP INTO SOMETHING NEW THAT WE, WE MAY HAVE SOME BIG PROBLEMS. I'M KIND OF RELYING ON THE OTHER, MY FELLOW SUPERVISORS AND THE STAFF TO TELL ME IF WE'RE ABOUT TO TRIP OVER SOMETHING HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, STEP ON A MINE OR WHATEVER, IT'S GONNA CAUSE A BIG BRUJA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE IT ENOUGH THOUGHT.

SO, UM,

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I THINK I CAN GO ALONG WITH THAT.

AS LONG AS IT'S .

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. MR. ANDERSON BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BOARD OF COMMENTS? WELL, I ASKED MY QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS IT.

UM, I'LL, I'LL CHIME IN.

DURING THE BOARD COMMENT PERIOD, AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP.

MR. WILLIAM ROWE.

SPEAK TO THIS.

YEAH, WE ALL DO.

WILLIAM ROWE 1 0 1 HYDRO COVE ROAD.

UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT LIKE, BUSINESSES.

THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ORDINANCE BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT POSSIBLY OPENING UP A SMALL REPAIR, SMALL ENGINE REPAIR BUSINESS.

I CAN'T AFFORD TO GO OUT HERE AND RENT A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY FOR ME.

NOT ENOUGH PROFIT IN IT.

NOT ENOUGH FOR ME.

I'M ON A FIXED INCOME.

I'M RETIRED.

I'M HAVING TROUBLE MAKING MY, MY BILLS.

IF I CAN HAVE A FEW INCHES TO REPAIR A MONTH OR A WEEK OR DEBT, WHATEVER WOULD HELP ME OUT.

BUT YOU'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

WHY, WHY YOU DON'T WANT A SMALL ENGINE REPAIR.

IT'S QUIET.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND.

YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF, OF, UH, CARS COMING IN.

A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, TRAFFIC COMING IN AT MY HOUSE WOULDN'T, BUT YET YOU'VE GOT WORK BOAT HERE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE REPAIRING THE WORK BOATS.

YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW CONSTRUCTION WORK.

YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW LANDSCAPING, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REPAIRING THEIR EQUIPMENT.

SAME DIFFERENCE.

YOU'RE REPAIRING SMALL EQUIPMENT IF YOU'RE DOING LANDSCAPING.

SO MY PROBLEM IS TO, TO BE SUCH A BUSINESS FRIENDLY COUNTY WITH THIS ORDINANCE HERE AND THE, UM, ONES THAT YOU'VE SAID NO, YOU CAN'T DO ANYMORE.

THERE'S, THEY'RE, UH, UH, NOT ALLOWED.

SOME OF 'EM, I AGREE WITH SOME OF 'EM, I DON'T, THAT'S WRONG.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN LESS.

YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN A BUSINESS HERE IN THE COUNTY RATHER THAN BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

SMALL BUSINESSES ARE GETTING RUN OUT.

THIS IS A SMALL BUSINESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN ONE.

YOU DO THIS, I'M SCREWED.

THAT'S IT.

IT'S THE WAY IT IS.

AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE SAYING, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS TWO OR THREE TIMES.

GO THROUGH IT AGAIN.

GO THROUGH IT 10 TIMES IF YOU HAVE TO.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

GET THIS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY, NOT FOR YOU, NOT FOR YOU OR NOT FOR YOU.

GET IT RIGHT FOR US.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU, MR. ROWE.

THERE'S THE ONLY PERSON I HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THIS, UH, APPLICATION, UM, THIS ADOPTION.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO, TO, UH, APPROVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24 DASH 14 R.

SO MOVED.

COMMENTS.

MR. ROY? AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, I BELIEVE THERE'S A CLEANUP TO BE DONE.

UH, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US TO HAVE THAT SMALL GROUP.

WE TALKED ABOUT THREE PEOPLE.

GIVE THEM A MONTH, LET THEM TAKE IT BACK.

LET'S CLEAN IT UP, GET SOME OF THE INCONSISTENCIES DEALT WITH.

LET'S, LET'S PUT DEFINITIONS IN MR. SHEPHERD TALKED ABOUT INVISIBLE IN A IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT SHOULD BE INVISIBLE, BUT, BUT YOU DON'T FIND ANY KIND OF DESCRIPTION THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THAT IS.

UM, I, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A, A FINAL CLEANUP REQUIRED.

I'VE RECOMMENDED A TASK TEAM.

I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. ANDERSON ABOUT THAT.

HE'S IN FAVOR OF THAT, UH, DECISION.

UH, I THINK THIS COULD BE DONE VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

THE VERY BEGINNING, THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE.

ALRIGHT, MRS. DOLE.

NO COMMENT.

OKAY, MR. DURRY? UH, YEAH.

SO, UM, I THINK THE THING FOR ME IS, UH, DOUG HAD ALREADY TALKED TO, UH, MR. ANDERSON AND THEY MUTUALLY AGREED AS MR. ANDERSON SAID TONIGHT, THAT THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP ON, ON AISLE 14.

SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING THESE FEW PEOPLE TO GO BACK, MASSAGE THIS, BRING IT BACK TO US, TO ME.

IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, WHY ARE WE PUSHING IT THROUGH JUST TO GET IT THROUGH? IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE AND MASSAGE, THEN LET'S DO IT NOW AND BE DONE WITH IT.

AND IT'S, IF DOUG'S SAYING IT'S ONLY GONNA TAKE ANOTHER MONTH, OKAY, IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER MONTH AND LET'S GET IT DONE RIGHT, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.

THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON IT FROM

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I THINK MR. ANDERSON AGREES WITH THAT.

AND SO I'M CERTAINLY IN AGREEMENT WITH GOING BACK AND, AND LOOKING AT IT AGAIN.

MS. NOEL, YOU GOT A QUESTION? I, I DO.

UH, THAT'S FINE.

YOU HAVE A THREE MAN, UH, COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK MAYBE IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WORKED ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND HE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING THE CHAIRMAN.

I HAVE PEOPLE WORK ON IT.

HE DID SAY THAT THE CHAIRMAN DIDN'T, AND WHAT YOU SAID, OR I THINK MR. ANDERSON SAID THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE PART OF THAT TEAM.

ONE OF, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON, WHO WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE TIME.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

MR. TITUS AT THE TIME WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHIELD WAS SAYING.

OKAY, MR. SHEPHERD? YEAH.

AND, AND EVEN DAVISON, I'D RATHER SEE MORE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ON IT.

EVEN CHRIS DAVIDSON SUGGESTED WITH THE NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE YEARS, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO GO BACK THROUGH PLANNING.

UM, THAT IN A SECOND WE LEAVE THAT TO THEM.

UM, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS IS THAT THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE GREAT WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE DID, THEY BROUGHT IT UP TO US.

IT WAS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WEREN'T IN THE BUILDING OF THIS, UH, CAKE.

AND, UH, THEN WE SAW IT AND, UH, WE, YOU SAW THE VARIATIONS OF, UH, INPUT AND, UM, I'D RATHER GET THIS THING DONE DONE RIGHT, THAN CREATE SOME, CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM.

WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

OKAY? AND THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY UNTIL WE GET THIS RIGHT.

IT MAY TAKE A WHILE.

SOMETIMES THE CAKE TAKES A LITTLE LONGER TO COOK.

OKAY? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.

I WOULD, THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND WE DO.

JUST TAKE IT, GET IT RIGHT BEFORE WE MAKE ANOTHER PROBLEM.

AGREED.

BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT I WANT THREE GUYS OR THREE GIRLS OR THREE, WHATEVER I, YOU KNOW, LET THE, UH, STAFF TAKE THAT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SOMEBODY, YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHO, WHO WE SHOULD HAVE IN THERE.

WE GOT ENOUGH CITIZENS INVOLVED IN THIS ALREADY.

WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT INPUT.

LET GET THOSE THE FOLKS HAVE HEARD FROM US.

NOW GO BACK AND WORK ON THAT AND BRING IT BACK.

NOW, MY ONLY CONCERN, UH, MARK.

MARK, I'M LISTENING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE NOW WE'RE NOT OVERLOADING YOU BECAUSE WE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO.

THIS BOARD'S GOT OTHER THINGS COMING IN AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE GOT STUFF TO DO.

SO WE MAKE, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP PILING THIS STUFF ON THE, THE STAFF TO DO THE WORK.

I MEAN, YOU GOTTA TELL US IF THIS, IF WE NEED TO DELAY IT LONGER.

I MEAN, I DON'T IF YOU GET IT RIGHT.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR EVEN NEXT YEAR TO BRING IT BACK.

BUT IF YOU GOT WORK TO DO, MR. ANDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND SPEAKING TO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MR. RONE, UM, 'CAUSE HE AND I HAD A DISCUSSION THAT HE REALLY WANTED THIS TO, TO COME BACK TO YOUR OCTOBER MEETING.

SO MY INTENTION WAS TO, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE COMMITTEE, IS TO CONTACT THEM TOMORROW AND TRY TO SET UP A TIME STARTING NEXT WEEK FOR THE THREE PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER AND START HASHING THIS OUT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT READY FOR YOUR MEETING.

PERFECT.

AND I, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A RICHARD QUESTION, SO IF YOU'RE GONNA WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO YOU, SHOULD WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING BE OPEN? NO, I'VE ALREADY CLOSED AND PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU HAVE, I'LL LET YOUR, I'LL LET, I'LL LET YOU FIGURE THAT OUT.

OCTOBER 15TH MEETING TO HAVE THE FINAL DRAFT PREPARED, READY FOR DISCUSSION.

CAN WE OPEN IT AND CLOSE IT? OR WE CAN TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU, YOU TELL US TO DO.

I MEAN, IF IT TAKES LONGER, I CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU, TO MR. BELLAMY AND, BUT I MEAN, I WON'T KNOW UNTIL I SIT DOWN WITH THOSE THREE PEOPLE TO KIND OF SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK RIGHT NOW.

CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T STAY.

TAKE PUBLIC INPUT.

LET'S MAKE, MAKE CLEAR ON THAT.

BUT, SO WE GOT, SO, OH, I'M SORRY.

I THINK MS. HAW HAS SOMETHING TO SAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

WHO, HEATHER? DOES SHE CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY, NO.

YOU HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE THAT'S ON THE TABLE, BOTH TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION JUST AS I'M, AND I'M GETTING READY TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO HOLD ON MS. ANDERSON.

YOU MIGHT NEED YOU UP HERE.

SO, UM, SO WHERE TO START? ALRIGHT, SO A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS ORDINANCE.

A LOT OF APPROPRIATE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.

'CAUSE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED, IT NEEDED TO BE RELOOKED AT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE WORKED ON IT, GAVE A GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM STAFF AND SO FORTH.

SO WE'VE DONE FURTHER REFINEMENT ON IT.

UM, I THINK WE'RE CLOSE.

I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.

CERTAINLY A STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THEY GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO BRING, BRING THIS HOME THAN WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO WHAT STAFF IS SAYING IN THAT REGARD.

AND GIVE STAFF TIME TO DO THIS.

NOW I NOW I'M LOOKING AT YOU AS A TEAM LEADER ON, ON THIS.

SO IF YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PULL A SMALL TASK FORCE TOGETHER AND MAKE IT HAPPEN, THEN PULL A SMALL TASK FORCE TOGETHER AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I THINK WE GOT VOLUNTEERS TO DO THAT.

NOW IT IS THIS BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE TO CLOSE THIS OUT THIS YEAR.

IT'S NOT THE 2025 BOARD.

IT'S THE 2024 BOARD.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THAT IS WHY I, I GAVE MR. ANDERSON A TARGET OF THE

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AND SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY BRING IT TO A CLOSED END BECAUSE, LIKE MR. SHEPHERD WAS SAYING, WE'RE RUNNING A OUTTA TIME HERE.

WE HAVE A WORK SESSION BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 15TH.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER AND THEN YOU GET INTO DECEMBER AND WE'RE RUNNING, RUNNING AT A TIME.

SO WE GOT A VERY, WE GOT A TIGHT WINDOW.

I KNOW THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF CHALLENGE FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO PULL ALL TOGETHER, BUT I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU BRING US, TAKE, TAKE THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED TONIGHT AND ALL THE OTHER INPUT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN, BEEN SHARING WITH YOU.

MAKE THE REFINEMENT, BRING US A FINAL DRAFT FOR, FOR REVIEW AND TO BE, TO BE VOTED ON EXPECTATIONS FROM ME.

BEYOND THAT, UM, DON'T MAKE PERFECT ENEMY A GOOD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A, A GOOD ORDINANCE IN PLACE.

BUT I, I ANALYSIS PARALYSIS IS NOT GONNA HELP US TAKE THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT GONNA HELP US.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT.

WE, WE NEED TO WRAP, WRAP THIS UP.

AND ACCORDINGLY, I DON'T SEE ANY HUGE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THIS AT THIS POINT.

THIS IS RE REFINEMENT.

MAKING IT EASIER TO READ, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND WRAP IT UP.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION YOU MAY NEED TO HELP WITH, WITH THIS, BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UH, AS POINTED OUT BY THE CLERK, THERE IS A PENDING MOTION ON THE VOTE ON MATTER.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN.

WITHDRAWN FIRST.

WITHDRAWN THAT AND THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE IT BECAUSE I, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW R VERSION OF THE PENDING MATTER THAT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE IT.

OCTOBER 15TH, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING.

AND I DON'T WANNA VOTE THIS DOWN TONIGHT EITHER.

WE, THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER OPTION WHICH WOULD MAKE MOTION.

SO YOU WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

I WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

NOT A PROBLEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION TO THE OCTOBER 15TH MEETING.

SO MOVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE LIKE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL ON, ON THAT MOTION.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO CONTINUE PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 14 R TO THE OCTOBER 20.

THANKS EVERYBODY WORK WORKING ON THIS.

ALRIGHT,

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

UM, WE HAVE WHAT WE GOT FOUR ITEMS. NUMBER SIX, FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

REVENUE SHARING PROJECTS.

ITEM KNOW.

NUMBER SEVEN, ESTABLISHING INFORMAL STRUCTURE FOR PROGRAM GOVERNANCE.

UH, NUMBER EIGHT, APPOINTMENTS TO THE HEAD START COL POLICY COUNCIL.

ITEM NUMBER NINE.

UH, REQUEST FOR REFUND OF REAL ESTATE TAXES FOR DISABLED VETERAN NUMBER 10.

OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE ON THE NEXT PAGE IS RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYEE OF THE, OF THE QUARTER FOR THE SECOND QUARTER.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEM THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL OR DISCUSS SEPARATELY? I SEE THAT I'LL MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ALRIGHT, NOW CIRCLING BACK TO, UM, MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD AS WE DEFER THAT TO THE END.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION, THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.

MR. DREW, REAL, REAL QUICK.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS, OR COMMENTS FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOL? OKAY.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

MY APOLOGIES.

NOPE.

THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOWLES TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.

[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]

SO I'LL START WITH MR. DUR RIGHT HERE TO MY LEFT.

WHY WE REMOVED THE TREES, ALL OF THE TREES.

I GOT SEVERAL THINGS HERE.

UM, ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE, WHAT I CONSIDER A DEBACLE FOR THE TREE REMOVAL.

UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME CLARITY FROM THE STAFF.

UM, I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF STORIES ABOUT WHY THE TREES WERE REMOVED.

AND MY QUESTION IS, WERE ALL OF THEM, DID ALL OF 'EM NEED TO BE MOVED? AND THE REASONS I'VE HEARD, MAYBE THERE'S SOME CONFUSION IN THE CAMP, WHETHER IT'S IN THE PUBLIC EYE OR WHETHER IT'S IN THE STAFF.

BUT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION OF

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UH, AND I GUESS WHY THERE WAS, UH, NO NOTIFICATION TO THE BOARD OR REALLY ANYBODY THAT I'M AWARE OF, MAYBE SOME OF THE STAFF KNEW IT.

UM, I THINK THE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME THE MOST ABOUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS BOARD, I HEAR THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

IF, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YORKTOWN OR YORK COUNTY, WHERE DO WE TAKE 'EM? WE TAKE 'EM TO THE WATERFRONT.

THAT'S THEIR CROWN JEWEL, IF YOU WILL.

IT'S, IT'S THE PLACE THAT WE SHOW OFF, IF YOU WILL.

AND, UM, IT'D BE, IT WOULD BE, AND I'M GONNA USE THIS EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT'S IN MY DISTRICT.

IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF IT WAS BACK CREEK PARK AND WE NEEDED TO MOVE FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN TREES.

'CAUSE YOU GOT TREES ALL OVER AROUND IT.

UM, RIVER WALK.

WE DON'T HAVE MANY TREES.

UM, AND TO BE IN AN RPA AND THE INFILTRATION OF HAVING THE ROOTS IN THE GROUND AND THE SYSTEM THERE, UM, IT, AND I KNOW WE HAVE CONCESSIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE OWN RIVERWALK.

BUT I THINK THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS WAS DONE AND NOT ANYONE WAS, NO ONE WAS GIVEN ANY NOTIFICATION.

AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY A BAD DECISION ON SOMEBODY'S PART TO HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE PUBLIC AND KNOWN AT LEAST TO THE BOARD.

HEY, YOU GUYS MIGHT WANNA KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING SOME TREES DOWN AND GIVE US AN EXPLANATION OF WHY THAT WAS HAPPENING.

SO OUR CONSTITUENTS, WHEN I GET ALL THESE PHONE CALLS AND ALL THESE EMAILS AND I GET STOPPED AT THE GROCERY STORE AND THE GAS STATION GOING, WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON? AND I, I DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

I WAS COMPLETELY STUNNED WHEN I SAW THE PICTURES BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER AND I'M SITTING ON THIS BOARD.

SO, UM, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.

SO I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION AND THAT CAN BE AT ANOTHER MEETING.

BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, A PUBLIC CLARIFICATION ON WHY THE TREES WERE TAKEN DOWN.

AND I ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE TREES REPLACED AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT'S AN OPTION AND I THINK WE, WE OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS TO MAKE THAT WATERFRONT, UH, A THING OF BEAUTY LIKE IT WAS BEFORE WITH THOSE BEAUTIFUL TREES.

SO I'M, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE PUT THOSE TREES BACK IN PLACE.

NOT THOSE, BUT FIND SOME HEALTHY.

THOSE TREES ARE PROBABLY IN THE DUMP BY NOW.

UM, BUT TRY TO GET SOME HEALTHY, REALLY NICE TREES FOR SHADE AND FOR THE BEAUTY OF YORKTOWN.

UH, THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

UM, SECOND THING, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A REPORT ON THE STAFFING STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE.

MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THAT AT OUR WORK SESSION NEXT MONTH.

UH, PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE BERKELEY GROUP COME IN AND GIVE US AN, UH, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE STAFFING STUDY AND HOW THAT'S GOING AND THE TIMELINE ON THAT.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE AT OUR NEXT MEETING OF THE BILLS, UM, DEAL GOING DOWN BILLS DEAL.

UM, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR A REPORT ON THAT IN OUR NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION, UH, FROM THE EDA, IF THEY COULD DO THAT.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE A, A COPY OF THAT CONTRACT ONCE IT'S RATIFIED.

AND, UH, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TIMING OF WHEN THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE AS FAR AS THE COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, UH, PERHAPS NEXT MEETING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, UH, UPON MY RECOMMENDATION, WE DID AN EMPLOYEE, WE DO AN EMPLOYEE EVALUATION ACROSS THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, I WAS HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH, UH, TO HEAR WHAT THE PROCESS IS ON THAT, WHAT THE TIMING IS ON THAT, UM, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE DONE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING A 360 EVALUATION AND NOT A DOWNWARD ONLY.

AND, UH, MR. BELLAMY, YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT, UH, THAT BEING A 360 EVALUATION ACROSS THE BOARD ON ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES, NOT JUST THE RANK AND FILE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT A QR CODE BE ADDED TO THAT PROCESS, UH, FOR CONFIDENTIALITY.

AND, UM, I'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING KICKBACKS OF, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE PROTECTED IF THEY DO IT ON A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, UH, UM, A COMPUTER.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE LOOK INTO HAVING A QR CODE WHERE THEY COULD TAKE IT HOME AND DO IT ON THEIR COMPUTER, ON THEIR PHONE OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, UM, NOT A YORK COUNTY,

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UH, DEVICE.

SO I KNOW THERE'S THREE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BROUGHT TO OUR NEXT MEETING IF POSSIBLE.

ALL THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. JURY, MR. SHEPHERD.

WELL, I'M GONNA SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I PROBABLY NEEDED TO SAY, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THIS.

I WANNA TELL THE, THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON THAT YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH DOWN HERE IS MARK.

OKAY? THIS BOARD HAS NO AUTHORITY ON YOUR HIRING, FIRING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA IN VIOLATIONS STATE CODE.

UM, AND, UH, AND HE, I EXPECT MARK, 'CAUSE WE HIRE HIM TO DO, TO DO THE EVALUATIONS AND RUN IT.

I PERSON, I JUST, I I'M NOT GONNA SEE THIS BOARD.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THIS BOARD DOES THAT UNDERMINES THE STAFF.

'CAUSE WE GOT A GREAT STAFF.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT I AM NOT GONNA UNDERMINE, I UNDERSTAND EVALUATIONS, DUDE, I'VE BEEN RUNNING EVALUATIONS OF REALLY LARGE COMPANIES BEFORE AND I AM NOT GONNA SEE THIS UNDERMINING OF THE, THAT MAN DOWN THERE, BUT WE DON'T LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE CAN REMOVE HIM OR THIS MAN HERE.

BUT I'M NOT GONNA UNDERMINE THE EMPLOYEES THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN DOING A JUST A TREMENDOUS JOB.

'CAUSE I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME AND WE POST IT ON OUR WEBPAGE AS ONE, TWO, I GOT A CALL ABOUT THE TREES.

I'M SITTING THERE GOING, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? THE TREES? AND MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND I WENT DOWN THERE THAT DAY WHEN I GOT THE CALL BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME, WE CUT EVERY TREE DOWN FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, UH, UP TO THE WATER, UH, WATERMAN'S MUSEUM AND I, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 400 YEAR OLD TREES AND ALL THIS CRAP.

SO I COME DOWN HERE AND ONLY FIND OUT THEY REMOVED FOUR TREES, FOUR TREES THAT WE PLANTED 20 YEARS AGO OR LESS BETWEEN THE FREIGHT SHED AND THE, UH, THE SHOWER, OR YOU WANNA CALL IT WHATEVER WE CALL THAT THE, THE THING NOW.

GO TALK TO FOLKS, UH, YOU, IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME.

AND I GOT DOWN THERE AND I'M GOING, I CAN'T EVEN TELL WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED.

I MEAN, I'M SITTING THERE LOOKING AT, WE STILL GOT TREES THERE.

THERE'S TREES STILL PLANTED THERE.

AND SO I'M GOING LIKE, SO WHAT'S THE BIG BREW? HA BECAUSE IT WAS CONSTRUCTION.

CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN YOU DO CONSTRUCTION IN THIS COUNTY, YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE TREES.

SOMETHING'S COMING DOWN.

I GUARANTEE YOU I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.

AND MOST DEVELOPMENT FIRMS, WHEN THEY GO INTO, THEY DO CONSTRUCTION, THEY LEVEL THE PLACE.

WE TRY TO GET 'EM TO SAVE 'EM SOME THINGS, BUT THEY LEVEL EVERY TREE BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO DO WORK.

WELCOME, COME TO FIND OUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.

I HEARD THINGS ABOUT BALANCING AND ALL THIS STUFF, AND I'M GOING, THIS, THIS DID NOT SEEM TO MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

ME.

AND, UH, AND WE KNEW, I MEAN, I KIND OF ANTICIPATED THIS WHEN WE, WHEN WE, THIS BOARD APPROVED THE SUBJECT, OKAY, APPROVED THIS ACTION.

AND, UH, MARK HAD TO REMIND ME THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVERTISING THIS FOR THREE MONTHS.

WE GOT IT APPROVED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE THAT THAT'S IN HERE, IN HERE, OKAY.

THEY KNEW THIS IS ALL GONNA HAPPEN.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SURPRISE WAS.

SO I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, OKAY, I CAN EXTEND THE SENSITIVITY DOWN HERE 'CAUSE PEOPLE LIVE IN IT.

BUT WHEN THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE WORK WITH THE STAFF TO GET THE STUFF DONE, THEN I EXPECT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

OKAY? AND 'CAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE, UH, ON THE, ON THE WEBPAGE OR WHEREVER ELSE WE PUT IT, IT, THAT IT WAS THERE.

SO I'M KIND OF, I'M A LITTLE TAKEN BACK BY THIS, THIS REACTION BECAUSE WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY HERE, BUT IT'S PART OF THE AREA I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.

AND I, I SIT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND I DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM.

SO WE'RE GONNA GET SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE.

THE WHOLE WATERFRONT'S GONNA ACTUALLY CHANGE WHEN WE GET THROUGH ALL THE, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.

NOW, WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT I THOUGHT THE PAPER, THE, THE DAILY PRESS THEY PUBLISHED, THE THING CALLED THE HISTORIC HERITAGE MONTH IS IN SWING.

AND, UM, I KIND OF TIE THIS WITH TWO ACTIONS.

ONE IS THAT, YES, THIS IS A, UH, I'LL CALL IT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THEY CALL IT THE, UM, SEE WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? THAT'S JUST THE, THE, THE MONTH WE CELEBRATE, UH, THE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE.

ALRIGHT? NOW THAT'S KIND OF A TRICKY LITTLE PHRASE HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S 65 MILLION, UH, HISPANIC CITIZENS, US CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY.

THERE'S PROBABLY MORE, BUT, BUT ANYWAY, THESE ARE THE CITIZENS WE KNOW OF OUT OF A COUNTRY.

IT'S GOT ABOUT 330 MILLION.

AND, UH, THEY'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS INFLUENCE, UH, ON OUR CULTURE.

I MEAN, WHO HASN'T EATEN TACOS, UH, BURRITOS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CELEBRATE CINCO DE MAYO, NOT BECAUSE OF ANY PARTICULAR CELEBRATION WE HAVE, IT'S JUST A GREAT TIME TO HAVE A PARTY, BUT IT CELEBRATES, UH, THE MEXICAN HISTORY.

AND, UM, AND SO THIS, UM, THE CELEBRATION RIGHT NOW, IT'S A CELEBRATION OF CULTURE AND IT'S GOING ON FOR A, IT'S GOING ON FOR A MONTH.

AND, UM, THE, THE ARTICLE GOES ON, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, PUTS IT IN THE HISPANIC, YOU KNOW, THE HISPANIC, UH, UH, CATEGORY.

BUT IF YOU

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'CAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, SOME, SOME OF YOU DON'T, WEREN'T OLD ENOUGH.

BUT IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE SIXTIES, THE PEOPLE IN MEXICO WE REFERRED TO AS CHICA CHICANOS.

CHICANOS, OKAY? AND, UH, THEN THAT'S KIND OF, WE DON'T HEAR THAT TERM MUCH.

AND IT WASN'T A DEROGATORY TERM, IT WAS JUST A TERM, IT WAS A CELEBRATION OF CULTURE.

BUT WHEN YOU GO TALK TO SOMEBODY FROM, UH, OR FRANK, FRANK, CENTRAL AMERICA, AND BY THE WAY, THESE, THESE ARE COUNTRIES THAT ARE CELEBRATING THE, THE, THE LATINO, IF YOU WILL, UH, THE CELEBRATION OF THIS MONTH.

YOU HAVE SINCE FROM A GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, EL UH, EL SALVADOR, NICARAGUA, COSTA RICA.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY CELEBRATING THEIR INDEPENDENCE ON SEPTEMBER THE 15TH.

AND, UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE MEXICO HAS, ITS WHAT THEY CALL, IT'S NATIONAL DAY, NOT THE CINCO DE MAYO AND INDEPENDENCE, BUT IT'S THE NATIONAL DAY, AND THAT'S SEPTEMBER THE 16TH.

AND THAT REPRESENTS A, A MAJOR EVENT IN THEIR COUNTRY.

CHILE'S, UH, HAS AN OBSERV, UH, DOES ITS, UH, OBSERVE ITS INDEPENDENCE ON SEPTEMBER THE 18TH.

SO THIS MONTH IS REALLY KIND OF AN INTERESTING CELEBRATION OF THE LATINO CULTURE.

AND I USE THE WORD LATINO CULTURE BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY HISPANIC, THIS KIND OF, UH, SO SOME, SOME FOLKS, IT KIND OF HAS A, A CONNOTATION OF, UH, POLITICS, UH, AND A TIEBACK TO SPAIN WHERE IF YOU'RE FROM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE FROM, UH, COLUMBIA, YOU REFER TO YOURSELF AS A COLUMBIA AMERICAN MAYBE, OR A SALVADORIAN AMERICAN, AND THEY THEN LIKE TO BE REFERRED TO AS LATINO.

AND YOU MAY HAVE EVEN HEARD OF LATINO X.

UM, ANYWAY, IT'S, UH, IT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT, I THINK NOT ONLY KIND OF IMPORTANT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT CELEBRATION OF, OF A MAJOR, UH, ETHNIC GROUP IN OUR SOCIETY.

AND, UH, I'M REALLY GLAD TO, UH, TO CELEBRATE IT AND, AND TO, UH, TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

NOW, I HAD A RIBBON CUTTING THAT I ATTENDED THIS WEEK, AND IT WAS INTERESTING.

IT'S A CREATIVE HAIR STUDIO, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE ADDRESS, I JUST KNOW IT WAS UP IN THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA.

AND, UM, UH, JACKIE, UH, SANTIAGO MARIE, UH, NUNEZ AND, UH, FLO PACHECO.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THESE NAMES, I WAS JUST LISTENING TO NAMES AND I TALKED TO THE LADIES.

THEY WERE ALL BEAUTIFUL AND, AND THEY HAD THE STYLISH THING.

AND SO WE STARTED TALKING AND THEIR SPECIALTY, IN FACT, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THIS RIBBON CUTTING, SHE SAYS, IS IT OKAY IF I, IF I SPEAK SPAN, UH, SPEAK SPANISH? SURE.

AND I SAID, WELL, IT'S ABSOLUTELY, IT'S YOUR RIBBON CUTTING FOR YOUR CELEBRATION.

AND SO SHE GAVE HER, SHE GAVE HER PRESENTATION IN SPANISH, AND, UH, AND THEY, THEY, UM, SPECIALIZE IN LATINO HAIRSTYLES.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT.

SO I GOT THIS DISCUSSION, COME TO FIND OUT, AND I DID NOT KNOW THIS, THAT THERE'S A LARGE LATINO POPULATION UP THERE IN YOUR DISTRICT, DOUG.

AND, UH, AND SO THIS WAS A GREAT BUSINESS CELEBRATING THEIR GRAND OPENING.

AND THE NEAT THING ABOUT THIS GRAND OPENING WAS THAT THEY HAD BEEN ON ANOTHER LOCATION IN YORK COUNTY AND THIS BUSINESS HAD TO MOVE TO THIS ONE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED BIGGER.

THEY HAD, THEY HAD MORE BUSINESS.

SO BUSINESS WAS GOOD.

IT WASN'T LIKE SOMETHING WAS JUST BEGINNING.

THESE LADIES WERE MAKING THIS A SUCCESS AND A CELEBRATION OF THE LATINO CULTURE.

SO FOR ALL MY LATINO FRIENDS AND HISPANIC FRIENDS OUT THERE AND, UH, THE CITIZENS, CONGRATULATIONS AND THIS CELEBRATE THIS MONTH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE COLORS AND THE, AND, AND ALL THE, ALL THE CELEBRATIONS.

SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD.

MRS. NOEL, UH, TOM, I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS TO US.

OH, I ALWAYS FORGET TO TURN ON THE MIC.

I THINK WE GET WRAPPED UP IN OURSELVES IN THE AREAS WHERE WE LIVE.

WE DON'T REALIZE THAT THERE'S A BIGGER WORLD OUT THERE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK I'VE SAID BEFORE ABOUT MY DISTRICT IS BECAUSE IT'S SO COSMOPOLITAN AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT THAT COME FROM ALL OVER AND THEY'VE BEEN WELCOMED BY THE PE OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND I THINK, I THINK THERE IS A CULTURE HERE IN YORK COUNTY IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THEY FORGET THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE COUNTY AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER IN THE COUNTY AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN WHO GO TO THE SCHOOLS.

AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY START OUT SPEAKING OUR LANGUAGE, BUT THEY EMBRACE WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE VERY, VERY MUCH TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE ALL THEIR LIVES, OPEN THEIR EYES AND EMBRACE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COME HERES.

I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING, TOM, THAT YOU MENTIONED.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHY I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED

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GOING TO THE CHINESE CELEBRATIONS AND ALL SORTS OF CELEBRATIONS THAT GO ON IN SMALL AREAS IN THE COUNTY, WHETHER IT'S JUNETEENTH OR THE CHINESE OR THE HISPANICS OR THE GERMANS OR THE IRISH KOREAN.

SO WE NEED TO BE MORE, WE NEED TO OPEN OUR ARMS AND EMBRACE EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU MR. ROY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I HAD TWO COMMENTS, UH, BUT I'M GONNA START WITH ONE THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT, UH, TOM AND SHEILA JUST MADE.

TOM TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DATES AROUND TODAY'S DATE, THE 14TH, THE 16TH, THE 18TH.

TODAY'S THE 17TH.

TODAY IS CONSTITUTION DAY.

IT WAS SIGNED IN 1787 ON THIS DATE, IT'S ALSO CITIZENSHIP DAY.

THAT LEGISLATION WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2020 BY, UH, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

IT'S ALSO THE DAY THAT THE, UM, UM, IMMIGRATION SERVICES TYPICALLY SET ASIDE FOR DOING NATURALIZATION SERVICES.

I LOVE TO DO THEM.

YES, I HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE, UH, KEYNOTE SPEAKER TODAY AT THE, UH, NATURALIZATION SERVICE IN, UH, IN WILLIAMSBURG.

AND HAVING, HAVING BEEN THROUGH THAT SERVICE TWO YEARS AGO MYSELF, IT MEANT A LOT.

UM, SO YOU HAD 82 INDIVIDUALS FROM EVERY COUNTRY, UH, REPRESENTED THERE.

AFGHANISTAN, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO VIETNAM, ALPHABETICALLY.

MM-HMM , MANY OF THEM FROM LATINO COUNTRIES.

UH, I THINK, I THINK EIGHT STOOD UP FOR MEXICO.

BUT YOU HAD, UH, HONDURAS AND GUATEMALA AND COSTA RICA ALSO REPRESENTED, UH, IT WAS A MOVING EVENT.

BUT MY, MY COMMENTS TO THEM, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST BECOMING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

NOW.

YOU HAVE A DUTY, NOW YOU HAVE A DUTY TO SERVE, TO GIVE BACK, TO IMPROVE ON THIS GREAT NATION.

AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL MESSAGE TO THOSE BECOMING CITIZENS.

BUT IT'S ALSO A CRITICAL MESSAGE TO THE CITIZENS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN YORK COUNTY.

WE NEED YOUR HELP.

WE NEED YOU TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY, TO THIS NATION, TO THIS, UH, TO THE STATE.

AND WHEN WE ASK FOR HELP, WE, UH, APPRECIATE IT WHEN YOU STEP FORWARD.

AND THAT WAS THE MESSAGE THAT I DELIVERED.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST GET THE PAPERWORK AND TAKE THE PASSPORT AND SAY, I'M DONE.

NOW YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THIS NATION TO MAKE IT BETTER.

IT'S A GREAT DAY.

THE COUNTY IS CONFIDENT THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THE SEWER INSTALLATION WILL BE COVERED BY GRANT MONEY.

SECOND ITEM I HAD, AND I'VE, I'VE PRESENTED THIS TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, UM, LAST WEEK AND MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR STAFF TO DEVELOP A RESOLUTION FOR OUR NEXT, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE YOUR ENDORSEMENT FOR DATING BACK TO LAST YEAR, FOLLOWING THE REVIEW OF HAWKS NEST DRIVE AS AN ALTERNATIVE ENTRY INTO TRANQUILITY DEVELOPMENT.

NEIL MORGAN HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS NOT VIABLE AS IT COULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTED IN SUFFICIENT TIME TO ALLEVIATE CONSTRUCTION ON THE ACTIVITY OCCURRING IN TRANQUILITY.

HE FURTHER CONCLUDED THAT THE MONEY REQUIRED FOR AN ALTERNATIVE ENTRY COULD BE FAR BETTER SPENT SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD.

NEIL WENT ON TO SUGGEST THAT THE COUNTY COULD CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF A SEWER SERVICE TO SPRINGFIELD ROAD AS A GESTURE OF GOODWILL TO THOSE RESIDENTS.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, UH, THE SEWER EXTENSION FROM TRANQUILITY DEVELOPMENT WAS EXTENDED TO THE ENTRANCE OF SPRINGFIELD FIELD SURVEY TEAMS HAVE BEEN IN THE SPRINGFIELD AREA RECENTLY TO MAP OUT THE SEWER LINES, THE TIE IN LOCATIONS, AND THE REQUIRED EASEMENTS.

A LETTER HAS BEEN ISSUED TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, REQUESTING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THOSE EASEMENTS.

I REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY STAFF ENGAGE WITH THE CITIZENS OF SPRINGFIELD TO INITIATE PAPERWORK FOR THE GRANT PROCESS THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THOSE CITIZENS OF LOW INCOME.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A PARTICULARLY DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, AND I THINK, I THINK THE GRANT PROCESS WOULD BE A, A WONDERFUL STEP TO, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE COST OF THAT, UH, EXTENSION.

I CALL ON THE BOARD TO MATCH THE GRANT AMOUNT AND WAIVE THE COST OF, OF TOP TIE-INS FOR EACH OF THOSE RESIDENTS ON SPRINGFIELD.

OBVIOUSLY, IF THE GRANT MONEY COVERS THE COST OF THE TAPS AND SEWER LINE CONNECTION TO THE HOUSE, THERE WOULD BE NO FURTHER MONEY PAID BY THE COUNTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A STEP, STEP OUT FROM OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE.

WHILE OTHERS IN THIS COUNTY MAY RECEIVE GRANT MONEY, IT IS NOT THE COUNTY'S NORMAL PROCEDURE TO COVER ADDITIONAL COST.

SPRINGFIELD ROAD IS NOT NORMAL, AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, AS MR. MORGAN RECOMMENDED.

AND AS MR. BELLAMY SUPPORTS, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS MATCHING THE GRANT MONEY RECEIVED BY THOSE RESIDENTS ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.

AND WHILE I DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE ESTIMATE OF THE COST INVOLVED,

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I LEAVE THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE.

SO YOUR, YOUR ASK IS FOR COUNTY STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROPOSAL BASED ON YOUR, YOUR ASK.

THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.

ALRIGHT, MR. BELLAMY, COULD YOU HAVE STAFF DRAFT UP SOMETHING FOR US TO REVIEW? CERTAINLY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, A FEW THINGS TO COVER.

SO, UM, FUTURE AGENDA.

SO I, I MENTIONED THIS LAST AT THE, UH, WORK SESSION.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF MEET IN TIME.

WE HAVE TWO MEETING NEXT MONTH, ONE IN NOVEMBER, IN DECEMBER.

WE GOT A LOT TO COVER.

WE KNOW WE GOT THE HOME-BASED BUSINESS COMING UP.

UH, WE JUST WRAPPED UP THE, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES WAS GREAT.

BUT WE HAVE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, SOME PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PENDING IN FROM OUR, UM, OUR CLERK OF COURTS AND OUR, AND OUR, UM, OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY TO COME, COME SPEAK TO US.

UM, AND MR. BELLAMY AND I LOOKED AT THE WHITEBOARD AND KIND OF STARTED TO MAP EVERYTHING OUT AND IT, IT IS GETTING FULL QUICK.

SO WE GOT A LOT TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN GET IT DONE, BUT WE, WE, MM-HMM, , WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE WE, WE, WE DO GET IT DONE.

UM, JUST A REMINDER FOR ANYBODY IN LOW LINE AREAS, IF YOU NEED TO, THE MAC AND CSM CREEK PARK IS STILL OPEN FOR VEHICLE PARKING.

UM, SO CONSIDER THAT IF YOU NEED IT.

JUST MAKE SURE IT'S OUT OF THERE BY THE TIME THE, UH, THE FLOOD WATERS GO DOWN.

SO WE OPEN THAT BACK UP.

UM, FLASH VOTE, WE GOT SOME FLASH VOTE FEEDBACK AND IN FACT THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS ABOUT HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.

SO MS. ANDERSON, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT THE RESULTS YET TO REVIEW 'EM, MAKE SURE YOU DO SO INCORPORATE THEM IN YOUR, IN YOUR TASK FORCE.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP FOR FLASH VOTE, SIGN UP FOR FLASH VOTE.

WE WANTED, WE WANT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PROVIDING INPUT ON THAT.

THE MORE, THE MORE THE BETTER.

UM, TALK ABOUT SOME GRAND OPENINGS HERE AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER BUSY YEAR.

I MEAN, YOU COMMENTED LAST YEAR THAT THIS THE BUSINESS YOU HAVE EVER BEEN THROUGH WITH THAT AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ON PAR WITH THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

TYPICALLY THE REQUEST COMES TO THE CHAIR TO COME AND, UH, PERFORM THE GRAND OPENING WITH THE NEW BUSINESS OR THE, UH, OPEN HOUSES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT WE'RE SO MANY HERE.

I HAVE TO DEFER IN SOME CASES TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO HELP OUT.

'CAUSE I, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T DO IT ALL.

SO, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM ALL JUMPING IN WHEN THEY CAN TO, TO COVER FOR ME WHEN I, WHEN I CAN'T DO IT.

BUT, UM, AND JUST SATURDAY I WENT TO ONE, UM, TOTAL HOME IMPROVEMENT, FINALLY HAD A OPEN HOUSE TO ABOUT THAT, TO UM, 'CAUSE AGAIN, COVID HIT AT THE WRONG TIME.

THEY, AGAIN, DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO IT THEN, BUT WE HAD A CHANCE TO CELEBRATE THEM THEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER GREAT BUSINESS HERE IN YORK COUNTY.

UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT, ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND I KNOW, BUT I KNOW MR. HORROW AND I, TWO WEEKS AGO, HAD A TOUR OF THE COURTHOUSE, UM, UM, FROM THE BASEMENT.

AND YOU DON'T WANNA GO TO THE BASEMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

NO.

UM, THAT'S BAD THINGS.

YOU'VE DONE BAD THINGS.

TYPICALLY IF YOU'RE IN THE BASEMENT, THERE'S DOORS.

LOT OF DOORS, RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, YEAH, A LOT OF, YES, A LOT OF EASY WASH OUT ROOMS TOO.

UM, AT FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR TORE THE WHOLE BUILDING.

AND I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST SAY THERE IS A STAGGERING AMOUNT, AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAPPEN IN, IN THAT COURTHOUSE.

UM, A LOT, LOT MORE THAN I, THAN I REALIZED.

UM, AND I HAD ALREADY HAD A TOUR OF THE BUILDING BEFORE, BUT, UH, REALLY THAT IN DEPTH.

UM, AND THE NEED FOR THOSE SERVICES ARE GROWING ALL THE TIME.

SO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PARTNER WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN IN THE YEARS COMING FORWARD, HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM SO THEY CAN DO THE JOB THEY NEED TO DO.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY IS SAFE AND SECURE AND RUNNING WELL.

SO A LOT OF WORK TO DO COMING UP ON THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

DID THEY SHOW YOU THE OLD BOOKS? MM-HMM.