[1. Call to Order]
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OKAY.UH, CALL TO ORDER THE YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE 10TH OF JULY.
UH, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON LAND USE AND PLANNING ISSUES AFFECTING THE COUNTY.
THIS RESPONSIBILITY IS EXERCISED THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS CONVEYED BY RESOLUTIONS OR OTHER OFFICIAL MEANS, AND ARE ALL MATTERS OF PUBLIC RECORD.
THE COMMISSION IS COMPRISED OF SEVEN CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD WITH ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH VOTING DISTRICT, AND TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.
MADAM SECRETARY, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, PHIL, STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
MY P ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. Approve Minutes – June 12, 2024]
OKAY.MOVING ON TO THE LAST MEETING'S MINUTES.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS, OR DELETIONS? HAVING HEARD NONE.
UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
THE MOTION BY MR. TITUS IS TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING ON JUNE 12TH, 2024.
[5. Election of Officers for FY 2024-2025 – Richard Hill, County Attorney, presiding]
TO THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR THE 24 25 PERIOD.AND TURN IT OVER TO COUNTY ATTORNEY.
UH, WE WILL, I WILL NOW TAKE, UM, NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF CHAIR, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY PLEASE, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE OUR CURRENT, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN, MR. JEFF WASSER AS OUR NEXT, UH, CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEE NONE.
UM, I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION.
THE MOTION BY MR. KING IS TO NOMINATE MR. WASMER AS CHAIR OF THE YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD, UH, CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF VICE CHAIR.
MR. ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MR. TOM SUTHERLAND AS OUR NEXT VICE-CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE, IS THERE TOM SUTHERLAND IN THE YOU'RE NOT A
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? C NONE.
UM, I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION.
THE MOTION BY MR. KING IS TO NOMINATE MR. CHAMBERLAIN AS VICE CHAIR OF THE YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THANK YOU TO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR TRUST CONFIDENCE, UH, IN, UH, CHAIRING THE
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PLANNING COMMISSION.UH, AND THEN I THINK ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US AND CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY, UH, THANKS TO JP, UH, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, UH, THIS LAST YEAR AND STEPPING UP IN, UH, FILLING A VOID WHEN MR. ROY WAS ELECTED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN CONSTANT AND, UH, AND GREATLY APPRECIATED.
OF THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS WE HAVE IS CITIZEN COMMENT.
THIS IS FOR ANY CITIZEN THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT IN A, IN ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE, I GUESS I OFFICIALLY OPENED A PUB PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT,
[Application Nos. ST-024-24 and ZT-199-24, York County Planning Commission: Consider amendments to the following sections of the York County Subdivision Ordinance (Chapter 20.5) and the York County Zoning Ordinance (Chapter 24.1).]
AND THAT'S ON CHANGES, UH, TO THE, UH, YORK COUNTY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.AND, UH, I THINK WE ALL, UH, RECEIVED A PRETTY, UH, EXPLANATORY PACKAGE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, CHANGES.
UH, SOME WERE ADMINISTRATIVE, SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIVE, AND SO I THINK STAFF WILL KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THOSE.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE OPEN UP YOUR, UH, RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.
IF YOU'RE MISSING ONE, I CAN PROVIDE ONE FOR YOU.
THIS APPLICATION CONTAINS A SERIES OF SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS PREPARED BY STAFF.
THEY ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS SEVERAL AREAS WHERE CHANGES HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION IN RESPONSE TO CITIZEN REQUESTS AND QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT HAVE ARISEN IN THE CONTEXT OF THE DAY-TO-DAY ADMINISTRATION OF BOTH ORDINANCES.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE DISCUSSED IN THE FOLLOWING SUMMARY AND CONTAINED IN THE ATTACHED PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
THE FOLLOWING CHANGES PERTAIN ONLY TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
WE ARE PROPOSING A $130 FEE FOR AMENDMENTS MADE TO PRELIMINARY AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UM, AS THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FEE FOR THESE PLANS.
USUALLY WE'VE CHARGED ONE 30 FOR THE SITE PLANS, BUT NOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
IN ARTICLE FIVE 60 PREPARATION STANDARDS FOR RECORD PLATS, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED MYER FILMS, UH, FILM.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE CLERK'S, UH, THE CLERK'S OFFICE ACCEPTS PAPER PLATS, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE CODE TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE IN APPENDIX B, A MINOR CHANGE, CHANGING THE NAME TO THE DEPARTMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS, UH, PERTAIN ONLY TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND HERE WE HAVE SEVERAL BRAND NEW DEFINITIONS.
AND YOU SEE HERE THE DEFINITION OF THE FOOD TRUCK PARK.
A NEW DEFINITION FOR A GROCERY STORE, DEFINITION FOR A SPECIALTY FOOD STORE, A DEFINITION FOR SELF-SERVICE, ICE VENDING UNIT, AND A NEW DEFINITION FOR WETLAND.
HOWEVER, IT WAS NEVER CLEARLY DEFINED.
IT WASN'T DEFINED, SO WE ADDED A DEFINITION TO IT.
AND ALSO WE ADDED INLAND TO NON-TITLE AND WE ADDED COASTAL TO TITLE.
UH, THIS, UH, DEFINITION WAS PROVIDED BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST IN PUBLIC WORKS, AND IT IS ALSO THE DEFINITION OF WETLANDS PROVIDED BY THE EPA IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE
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1 0 8.AGAIN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 130 FOR ANY AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ONE 15 FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT STATES SPECIAL USE PERMITS SHALL RUN WITH THE LAND UNLESS STATED BY THE BOARD.
THIS HAS USUALLY BEEN THE CASE, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN STATED.
SO WE ARE ADDING IT TO THE ORDINANCE.
COMPUTATION OF BUILDABLE OR DEVELOPABLE DEVELOPABLE AREA.
UH, WE ARE ADDING CLARIFYING LANGUAGE TO MEASUREMENTS AND ADDING THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REQUIREMENTS FOR EXISTING THROUGH LOTS.
IF YOU COULD SEE THIS FIGURE HERE, THIS IS A THROUGH LOT.
AND IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK OF FIVE FEET FROM A PUBLIC STREET RIGHT AWAY WITH A RECORDED RESTRICTED ACCESS EASEMENT.
SO THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS, ARE THOSE RED DOTS THERE AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS HERE 2 25.
WE'RE CLARIFYING THIS SECTION BY ADDING DIMENSIONS TO THE PROJECTION OF, FOR EXAMPLE, LEAVES, GUTTERS AND UNCOVERED LANDINGS INTO REQUIRED SETBACK YARDS.
2 42 LANDSCAPING STANDARDS AND ADDITIONAL 20 LANDSCAPE CREDITS SHALL BE PROVIDED.
UH, THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE COPYING FROM THE PARKING SECTION AND WE'RE BRINGING IT OVER TO THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS 2 51.
WE'RE ADDING SPECIAL STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR USES THAT EXCEED 80,000 SQUARE FEET BASED ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM SUPERVISOR HORO, UH, 2 62 UTILITIES.
THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UH, REVISION UPDATES THE REFERENCE TO YOUR COUNTY'S SANITARY SEWER DETAIL DOCUMENTS AND CORRECTS THE DEPARTMENT NAME TO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ACCESSORY USES PERMITTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH RESIDENTIAL USES TO 71 ACCESSORY USES PERMITTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH RESIDENTIAL USES, MODIFIES THE NUMBER OF DAYS.
A PORTABLE ON-DEMAND STORAGE UNIT CAN TEMPORARILY BE PLACED ON A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FROM 16 DAYS TO 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
AND IN THIS NEXT SECTION, MS. ROY WILL BE PRESENTING.
OKAY, SO I'M GONNA COVER PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE TABLE OF LAND USES.
AND I WANTED TO START WITH A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF HOW THE TABLE IS READ.
SO YOU'LL SEE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS ALONG THE TOP ROW GROUPED BY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
UH, RC STANDS FOR RESOURCE CONSERVATION.
RR STANDS FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
R 33 IS FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
R 20 IS FOR MEDIUM DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
R 13 IS FOR HIGH, UH, DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
OUR SEVEN IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY MANUFACTURED HOME SUBDIVISION.
RMF IS FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
NB STANDS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS.
UH, LV STANDS FOR LIMITED BUSINESS.
GB STANDS FOR GENERAL BUSINESS.
WCI IS FOR WATER ORIENTED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
UM, EO STANDS FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
IL IS FOR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL, AND IG IS FOR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.
UM, SO THE LAND USE IS SHOWN IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN.
UH, IF YOU SEE A P UNDER A ZONING DISTRICT, THAT MEANS THE USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT, AND S MEANS THE USE IS PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND IF THE CELL IS BLANK, THAT MEANS THE USE IS NOT PERMITTED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
SO NOW I'LL DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGES STARTING IN CATEGORY ONE, WHICH COVERS RESIDENTIAL USES.
STAFF PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF BOARDING HOUSES BECAUSE WE'VE ONLY EVER RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FOR THIS USE AND STAFF BELIEVE THAT THE USE IS OUTDATED IN CATEGORY TWO, WHICH COVERS AGRICULTURE, ANIMAL KEEPING AND RELATED USES.
STAFF PROPOSES TO ALLOW FARMER'S MARKETS IN THE LB ZONING DISTRICT AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
AND, UH, THE WCI ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
CATEGORY FOUR COVERS COMMUNITY USES AND STAFF PROPOSES TO ALLOW MEETING HALLS RECREATIONAL SOCIAL USES OR PRIVATE CLUBS IN THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN CATEGORY FIVE, UH, IT DISCUSSES EDUCATIONAL USES STAFF PROPOSES
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TO ALLOW YORK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BY RIGHT IN THE EO IL AND IG ZONING DISTRICTS.STAFF ALSO PROPOSES TO ADD PRIVATE INSTRUCTION TO THE TABLE OF LAND USES AND PERMIT IT IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND BY RIGHT UNDER CATEGORY SEVEN, WHICH INCLUDES PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC USES.
STAFF PROPOSES TO ALLOW ANIMAL SHELTERS IN THE RC AND GB ZONING DISTRICTS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
LIBRARIES ARE PROPOSED TO BE BY, UH, IN THE RC ZONING DISTRICT.
AND STAFF ADDED THE WORD CORRECTIONAL, UH, TO OTHER FACILITY FOR CLARITY.
UNDER CATEGORY NINE, WHICH IS NON-GOVERNMENTAL RECREATION AND AMUSEMENT STAFF PROPOSES TO ALLOW INDOOR HEALTH, EXERCISE AND FITNESS CENTERS IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT BY RIGHT AND OUTDOOR PAINTBALL GUN FIRING RANGES IN THE IL ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, CATEGORY 10, UH, 10 CONTAINS COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL USES.
STAFF IS PROPOSING QUITE A FEW CHANGES TO THIS CATEGORY, INCLUDING ALLOWING APPLIANCE SALES BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB AND LB ZONING DISTRICTS.
IF APPROVED AUCTION HOUSES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE IL AND IG ZONING DISTRICTS, CAMERA SHOPS AND ONE HOUR PHOTO SERVICES WOULD BE REMOVED.
AND GIFT AND SOUVENIR SHOPS, HOBBY AND CRAFT SHOPS, HOUSEHOLD FURNISHINGS AND FURNITURE AND JEWELRY STORES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT STAFF PROPOSES, UH, CHANGING MUSIC RECORDS AND VIDEOTAPES TO MUSIC AND INSTRUMENT STORE AND ALLOWING THEM BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT APPROVAL WOULD ALSO CHANGE RADIO AND TV SALES TO CONSUMER ELECTRONIC SALES AND REPAIR AND ALLOW THEM BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT.
FINALLY, SPORTING GOODS STORES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WELL.
UH, CONTINUING IN CATEGORY 10, STAFF PROPOSES TO CHANGE TOBACCO STORE TO TOBACCO VAPE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE STORE AND CHANGE IT FROM A BUYRIGHT USE IN THE LB GB AND EO ZONING DISTRICTS TO SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
STAFF ALSO PROPOSES TO ALLOW TOY STORES BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT AND CHANGE IT FROM SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO BUYRIGHT IN THE LB ZONING DISTRICT.
IF APPROVED OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT, FISH AND SEAFOOD STORES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB AND LB ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, DEPARTMENT VARIETY AND DISCOUNT STORES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE LB ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SECONDHAND USED MERCHANDISE RETAILERS WITH OUTDOOR, UH, OUTSIDE DISPLAYS OR STORAGE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB ZONING DISTRICT AND STORAGE SHED.
AND UTILITY BUILDING SALES WOULD BE, UH, WITH DISPLAY WOULD BE ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE EO ZONING.
STAFF ALSO PROPOSES ADDING A NEW USE, UH, SELF-SERVICE ICE VENDING UNITS AND ALLOWING THEM BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND BY RIGHT IN THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
MOVING ON TO CATEGORY 11, WHICH IS BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICE STAFF PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF HOUSEHOLD ITEMS REPAIR AS A PRINCIPAL.
LAND USE STAFF ALSO PROPOSES ALLOWING SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS IN THE NB AND WCI ZONING DISTRICTS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT BREW PUB RESTAURANTS IN THE LB AND WCI ZONING DISTRICTS FAST FOOD AND DRIVE-IN RESTAURANTS BY RIGHT IN THE EO ZONING DISTRICT AND CARRY OUT RESTAURANTS IN THE WCI ZONING DISTRICT BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WOULD MAKE SMALL ENGINE, UH, REPAIR A USE PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE EO ZONING DISTRICT AND TOOL HOUSEHOLD EQUIPMENT, LAWN AND GARDEN EQUIPMENT AND RENTAL ESTABLISHMENTS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THE LB ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, CONTINUING IN CATEGORY 11 STAFF PROPOSED CHANGING ESTABLISHMENTS, PROVIDING PRINTING, PHOTOCOPYING, BLUEPRINTING, MAILING, FACSIMILE RECEPTION AND TRANSMISSION OR SIMILAR BUSINESS SERVICES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL USERS TO A MORE SUCCINCT ESTABLISHMENTS PROVIDING MAILING, UH, PRINTING MAILING OR SIMILAR BUSINESS SERVICES.
THIS WOULD ALSO MAKE THE USE PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE NB ZONING.
DISTRICT APPROVAL WOULD ALSO ADD A NEW USE, UH, FOOD TRUCK PARKS, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE LB G-B-W-C-I AND EO ZONING DISTRICTS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND, UH, MS. ABBOT'S GONNA TAKE IT FROM HERE.
ALRIGHT, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BREATHER THERE.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TABLE OF LAND USES.
UM, THIS IS CATEGORY 12 MOTOR VEHICLE TRANSPORTATION.
SOME MINOR CHANGES TO CATEGORY FIVE.
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THERE IN SALES, UH, SINCE IT'S STATED EARLIER AND WE TOOK RVS OUT, UM, WE FELT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES WAS COVERED IN THE TERM VEHICLES.YOU'LL SEE TWO NOSE, TWO NEW USES UNDER FIVE AS WELL.
I WANNA EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THE WINDOW TINTING, VINYL WRAPPING, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IS PERMITTED IN ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT ISN'T ALLOWED IN.
STAFF HAS CATEGORIZED BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME IN AS BODY WORK 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PUT THEM AND THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
BUT REALLY THE OPERATION OF, UM, VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING AND VINYL WRAPPING IS, IS NOT AS INTENSE AS TRADITIONAL BODY WORK WHERE YOU'RE PAINTING.
YOU COULD BE PRODUCING A LOT OF NOISE TYPICALLY AS OPERATIONS DON'T REALLY USE CHEMICALS.
CHEMICALS, THEY'RE QUIET, THEY'RE ENTIRELY INDOORS.
THEY DON'T SERVICE A LOT OF VEHICLES AT ONE TIME.
SO STAFF FELT IT WAS REALLY APPROPRIATE SINCE, ESPECIALLY WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS OF THIS NATURE TO CREATE A NEW LAND USE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, VKL DETAILING HAS BEEN ADDED.
WE GOT A INQUIRY AND ESTABLISHING THIS BUSINESS AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE A CAR WASH.
UM, I HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS LATER THAT I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE NATURE OF THE USE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE PROPOSED TO PERMIT THAT BY RIGHT IN THESE PARTICULAR DISTRICTS.
UM, COUPLE OF MINOR CHANGES WE'RE JUST ADDING REPAIR TO SIX AND SEVEN.
NINE HAS BEEN MODIFIED SLIGHTLY.
WE FELT THAT WHAT'S BEING LISTED AS LIKE BOAT SAIL SERVICE YOU NOTICE FOR ADDING REPAIR REALLY SHOULD BE APPLIED TO 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, JET SKIS KIND OF FALL UNDER THIS RECREATIONAL VEHICLE CATEGORY.
AND ADDITIONALLY WE ARE MAKING THAT A SPECIAL USE IN GEB AND SPECIALLY PERMITTED IN IG.
AND CLARIFICATION OF MARINE RAILWAY, AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF MORE OF A GRAMMATICAL IDEA, IS MARINE RAILWAY IS THE PRIMARY USE AND THEN HAPPENS TO INCLUDE BUILT BUILDING AND REPAIR.
WE ELIMINATED TRUCK STOP FROM TABLE LAND USES.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TRUCK STOPS IN THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T REALLY FEEL IT WOULD BE A APPROPRIATE USE.
AND WE ARE PERMITTING RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITIES BY WRIGHT AND WCI THAT INCLUDES BOATS.
MARINAS OFTEN HAVE SEPARATE BOAT STORAGE YARDS.
MOVING ON TO CATEGORY 13, YOU WILL SEE A NEW FOOTNOTE THERE FOR INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT REFERENCES THE CHANGE IN PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
I HAVE A SLIDE ABOUT THIS LATER.
I'M GOING TO GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THAT IS.
CATEGORY 14 MINOR CHANGES FOR MANY STORAGE WAREHOUSES TO BE PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE IN EO.
SIMILARLY, CATEGORY 15, WE HAVE A NEW USE IN THERE FOR COMPUTER AND TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING PERMIT BY SPECIAL USE IN GB AND EO AND THEN PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, PERMITTING CONTRACTORS SHOPS BY SPECIAL USE IN EO PERMITTING MACHINE SHOPS BY SPECIAL USE, UM, WINERIES.
THAT WAS A
WINERIES WAS CAPITALIZED BY SOME REASON.
SO WE'RE JUST CORRECTING IT BY MAKING IT LOWERCASE AND THEN HAVING GLASS OR AUTOMOBILE, GLASS SALES OR INSTALLATION, ESPECIALLY USE IN EO.
AND FOR LASTLY, CATEGORY 17 UTILITIES.
NOW WE FIGURE THE TABLE OF LAND USES SHOULD BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GETTING INTO ANOTHER SECTION OF ARTICLE THREE.
THESE ARE OUR STANDARDS FOR OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, NOT TOO MANY MAJOR CHANGES HERE.
THAT'S FOR THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND PROTECTION AREA OVERLAY.
WE'RE JUST UPDATING THE DEPARTMENT NAME.
EDS OR ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES NO LONGER EXIST.
ALRIGHT, UH, MINOR CHANGE TO THE ROUTE 17 CORRIDOR OVERLAY STANDARDS.
YOU'LL SEE IN SUBSECTION D, THESE ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR FREESTANDING SIGNS NEEDING TO BE GROUND MOUNTED MONUMENT SIGNS.
NOW THIS REVISION WAS PROPOSED TO MATCH THE WAY THAT MOST OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS ON ROUTE 17 HAVE BEEN APPROVED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
FOR OUR AUTO USES, WE TYPICALLY ADD A CONDITION.
IT NEEDS TO BE A MONUMENT SIGN.
AND SO WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THAT.
AND THIS WOULD MATCH THE REQUIREMENT AND LANGUAGE THAT'S ALREADY IN FOR TOUR CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S PRIMARILY THE UPPER COUNTY.
SIMILAR LANGUAGE, SIMILAR STANDARD, UH, WITH AN EXCEPTION, NOTABLY FOR SHOPPING CENTERS.
MOVING FORWARD TO ARTICLE FOUR, THESE ARE OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR USES.
AGAIN, EDS TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR 4 28 PRESCHOOLS AND DAYCARES USED TO BE LICENSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY SERVICES.
THEY'RE NOW LICENSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, A NEW SUBSECTION.
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THIS IS FOR FOUR 40, WHICH IS TEMPORARY USES.AND SPECIFICALLY THIS IS FOR TEMPORARY SALES OF SEASONAL COMMODITIES.
SO THIS NEW SUBSECTION G IS REALLY PERTAINING TO VERY LARGE BIG BOX RETAIL STORES.
AND TYPICALLY WE SEE WITH LIKE FOR, I'M JUST GONNA USE LIKE WALMART OR LOWE'S AS AN EXAMPLE HERE.
THEY HAVE SEASONAL PRODUCTS THAT ARE DISPLAYED OUTSIDE AND THAT ROTATE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER MONTHS, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOIL FOR PLANTING.
AND THEN WE GO FOR, YOU KNOW, CHRISTMAS, THEY HAVE CHRISTMAS TREES AND THESE STAY OUTSIDE ALL YEAR LONG.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, THAN THE OTHER USES THAT WE WOULD SEE.
AND THAT WOULD KIND OF FALL UNDER THIS USE CATEGORY, WHICH IS A SEPARATE, LIKE, LIKE, I'M JUST GONNA USE AN EXAMPLE HERE, LIKE A NURSERY STAND THAT'S OPERATED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND THEY GO ONTO THE FOOD LINE PARKING LOT FOR MARCH AND APRIL TO SELL PLANTS AND THEN THEY LEAVE AND THEN THEY'RE TEMPORARY.
AND IN THIS CASE AND IN THESE STANDARDS RIGHT NOW.
SO WALMART WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TEMPORARY COMMODITIES OUTSIDE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS ARE ONLY GOOD.
THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR 120 DAYS.
YOU HAVE TO LIKE PROVIDE A $500 SURETY.
WE DIDN'T REALLY FEEL IT WAS NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CASE.
SO WE HAVE ADDED THIS NEW SUBSECTION TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR BIG BOX LARGE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT PLUS STORES WHO HAVE THESE ROTATING ALL YEAR LONG SEASONAL ITEMS OUTSIDE TO HAVE TO GET THAT ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT.
AS MS. RA ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE HAVE THAT NEW USE, UH, SELF-SERVICE, ICE SPENDING.
AND THESE HAVE PROPOSED PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ITEMS AS YOU'LL NOTICE THERE IN YOUR RESOLUTION.
LOCATION BEING EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL.
WE DO NOT WANT THESE TO BE IN LIKE A BUILDING SETBACK.
THEY HAVE TO BE ON IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
HVAC HAS TO BE SCREENED, FOUNDATION HAS TO BE SKIRTED.
WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO LOOK NICE.
UM, MOST NOTABLY I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THIS IS A LOT WE HAVE.
THIS IS GONNA BE SORT OF SIMILAR TO WHAT'S WE ALREADY DO FOR GAS STATIONS.
SO FOR THIS AND FOR GAS STATIONS, IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY ESTABLISH THIS USE, THEY'RE GONNA EXECUTE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
NOW, WHAT THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT DOES FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE IS IF THEY CEASE OPERATION FOR SEVEN CONTINUOUS DAYS, THE USE HAS TO, THIS, THIS, THE ICE SPENDING UNIT NEEDS TO BE DISMANTLED AND THE SITE HAS TO BE RETURNED TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION.
NOW, THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS IF, SAY THE OPERATOR'S LIKE, WELL I'M, I'M GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT I'M SELLING THIS TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY HAVE PROOF OF THAT CONTRACT, THEN OKAY, THIS CAN, THERE'S A STAY ON THAT FOR SIX MONTHS.
BUT REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO GAS STATIONS, IS WE DON'T WANT THESE TO BE ABANDONED AND THEN SIT THERE AND BECOME DERICH AND JUST NOT LOOK VERY NICE.
OTHER NEW USE FOOD TRUCK PARKS.
AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA BE THE, THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THIS IS A PRIMARY USE ON A LOT.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE PERMANENT THINGS LIKE TABLES AND CHAIRS THAT WOULD STAY THERE AND THEN YOUR FOOD TRUCKS WOULD COME IN.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE NECESSARILY SIMILAR TO WHEN A FOOD TRUCK COMES FOR A TEMPORARY EVENT THAT'S THERE FOR A DAY AND THEN IT'S GONE.
SO WE HAVE THINGS AGAIN, LIKE OPERATION.
THE FOOD TRUCKS NEED TO BE LICENSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, NEED TO BE HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE MINIMUM FACILITIES SUCH AS PERMANENT RESTROOMS THAT NEED TO BE INSTALLED.
AND THEN THERE'S LOCATIONAL STANDARDS AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, DID THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO DISTRICT MINIMUMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN'T BE BLOCKING
SO FIRETRUCK NEEDS TO COME ON SITE.
WE HAVE A MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT AND LIKE, SAY LIKE A BUILDING OR SOMETHING THAT'S COMBUSTIBLE.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST UPDATING THAT OLD DEPARTMENT NAME TO THE CURRENT NAME PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DEPARTMENT IS PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOW FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.
THESE ARE THOSE STANDARDS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, FOR CAR DETAILING SHOPS.
SO I WANT, I WANNA CLARIFY, A CAR DETAILING SHOP IS, IS NOT A CAR WASH.
THIS IS CONSIDERABLY SMALLER IN SCALE.
IT'S USUALLY ONE OR TWO PEOPLE.
THEY'RE WORKING ON ONE CAR AT A TIME.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH, IT'S TYPICALLY INSIDE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE INCLUDED THAT STANDARD FOR THIS USE THAT THEY HAVE TO OPERATE INSIDE.
THIS ISN'T GONNA BE SOME GUY IN THE PARKING LOT POWER WASHING CARS.
HE'S GONNA BE INSIDE AND THE WATER USE IS MUCH LOWER FOR CAR WASHES.
WE REQUIRE THEM TO RECYCLE THEIR WATER 'CAUSE THEY USE A LOT OF WATER IN A SINGLE DAY.
WE DID WANNA ADDRESS THAT THOUGH IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR CAR, CAR DETAILING SHOP MIGHT USE A, A HIGHER VOLUME OF WATER.
SO THAT'S THE WAY WHY WE HAVE THAT MINIMUM.
IF YOU'RE OVER 35 GALLONS, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO RECYCLE YOUR WATER.
THIS IS THAT CHANGE TO STANDARDS FOR BUSINESS PARKS AND INDUSTRIAL PARKS.
UH, SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTION A THREE.
ANY WAREHOUSE IN A BUSINESS OR INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS GREATER THAN 1 MILLION
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SQUARE FEET IN GROSS FLOOR AREA IS GONNA REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.SIMILARLY, IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING LARGE WAREHOUSE IN A BUSINESS OR INDUSTRIAL PARK AND IT IS SOMEHOW GETTING ENLARGED OR EXPANDED TO BECOME MORE THAN 1 MILLION GROSS SQUARE FEET, THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A PROCESS SIMILAR TO HOW WE AMEND SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
AND THEN A FINAL MITRE CHANGE TO FOUR 90.
AGAIN, WE'RE UPDATING EDS TO PUBLIC WORKS.
THIS SAYS PARKING STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY 6 0 6 SUBSECTION K FOOD TRUCK PARKS, UM, KIND OF BEING UNIQUE ARE GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN PARKING STANDARDS.
AND SO WE ADDED THOSE SHOW THERE.
AND THEN LASTLY, ARTICLE SEVEN SIGNS.
B ONE ADDRESSES, UM, RIGHT NOW ADDRESSES LIKE FOR FAST FOOD DRIVE-IN SIGNS, THEY CAN HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SIGNS BECAUSE OF THE DRIVE DRIVE THROUGH LANES.
AND WE NOTICED, HEY, CAR WASHES HAVE DRIVE THROUGH LANES AND THEY ALSO WANNA DISPLAY, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE UP AND YOU HAVE THOSE SIGNS THAT ARE LIKE, OH, LIKE A MENU BOARD, BUT THEY DISPLAY THEIR PRICES.
SO THAT'S BEEN CHANGED TO ALLOW THEM TO EXTRA SIGNS TO DO THAT.
AND THEN IN TEMPORARY SIGNS AND SUBSECTION B, UM, THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY SIGNS, USUALLY POLITICAL SIGNS.
CURRENTLY THEY'RE PERMITTED TO BE DISPLAYED 60 DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION, UM, WITH REALLY THE PROLIFERATION AND POPULARITY NOW I'D SAY OF ABSENTEE MAIL-IN VOTING.
UM, CAN PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED THAT SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GET MY SIGN UP A LITTLE EARLIER SO I CAN CATCH THOSE MAIL-IN VOTERS.
SO WE'VE EXTENDED THAT FROM 60 TO 90 DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY YOUR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FIR FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO STAFF.
THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK AND, UH, A LOT OF DETAIL AND, UH, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS AND, AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL, UH, INFORMATION TO HELP US SORT THROUGH THIS JUST AS A FYI THINK MOST FOLKS KNOW, BUT KIND OF THE PROCESS IS THE COMMISSIONERS WILL ASK STAFF QUESTIONS ON ANY, ANY, ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE A WAY I'D LIKE TO STEP THROUGH THAT TO TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT ORGANIZED.
UH, AFTER THAT WILL OPEN A PUBLIC COMMENT SO ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ON ANY OF THESE CAN.
AND THEN WE'LL, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENT AND DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION, IF WE WENT ONE AT A TIME, IT COULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO THAT.
SO IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO JUST GO ONE SECTION AT A TIME AND ANY COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LIKE TO, TO ASK STAFF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SECTION, JUST CHIME IN.
UH, I WON'T GO EACH ONE AND WE'LL TRY TO STEP THROUGH THIS LOGICALLY.
OBVIOUSLY SOME ARE RATHER BIG.
SO IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY WITH ME ON THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
SO, UH, THIS, YOU KNOW, SECTION 20.5, ANY COMMISSIONER WISH TO ASK STAFF QUESTION? UH, I HAVE A CONCERN AND IT'S OVER THE, UH, DEFINITION OF WETLANDS.
AND AS I, AS I READ THIS IN THE PERTINENT AREAS, UH, AREAS WHERE WATER NEAR THE SURFACE OF THE SOIL FOR VARYING PERIODS DURING THE YEAR NEAR THE SURFACE OF THE SOIL, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT'S GONNA TAKE MY BACKYARD AND MAKE IT WHERE I CAN USE IT OR CAN'T USE IT IF IT'S NAMED WETLANDS VERSUS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
SO YOU'RE ON 24 DASH ONE, RIGHT? I AM, UH, 1 0 4.
UM, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY WHERE, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE A NEW DEFINITION FOR WETLANDS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A GRAB FROM SOMEBODY ELSE AND FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES MAKES SENSE.
BUT AS A CONSUMER, AS A CITIZEN HERE, YOU'RE PUTTING ME IN A POSITION THAT YOU CAN TAKE MY PROPERTY AND CALL IT WETLANDS BECAUSE IT HAS, UH, WATER NEAR THE SURFACE OF THE SOIL.
UH, JUST TO ADD SOME CLARITY TO THAT.
UM, AND, AND WHAT I THINK MAYBE THE INTENT OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST WAS IN PROVIDING THAT DEFINITION.
SO THE COUNTY CODE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT SEPARATE CODE SECTION THAT'S ADDRESSING WETLANDS AND THERE'S DEFINITIONS IN THERE FOR LIKE VEGETATED WETLANDS AND THEY HAVE A LIST OF SPECIES AND THEN FOR NON VEGETATED AND IT GETS REALLY TECHNICAL.
AND SO 'CAUSE LIKE WETLANDS, IT, THEY HAVE TO BE PROFESSIONALLY DELINEATED.
AND SO I THINK REALLY THE INTENT OF THIS DEFINITION WAS TO HAVE A, A DEFINITION FOR A WETLAND THAT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE BY YOU, THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR YOUR AVERAGE LAY PERSON VERSUS WHEN YOU GO INTO THE WETLANDS CODE SECTION.
AGAIN, IT'S VERY, THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE VERY TECHNICAL AND PROBABLY ARE, I THINK ARE KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND BY YOUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER.
SO IF, IF I'M READING THIS, AND THIS IS FROM THE EPA, AM I CORRECT? THIS WAS THERE, THAT IS, THAT IS THE DEFINITION.
YES, IT DOES STIPULATE FOR A PERIOD OF THE
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YEAR.SO IT'S BASICALLY STANDING WATER YEAR ROUND.
IS THAT THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION OF THAT? VARYING PERIODS OF THE YEAR.
SO I'M SEEING SOIL ALL YEAR OR FOR BEARING PERIODS.
BUT IT, IT, I THOUGHT IT HAD SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF NATURALLY OCCURRING VERSUS A MECHANICAL DRAINAGE OR THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY IT DOESN'T SAY I, I BELIEVE THE DEQ DEFINITION, WHICH WE, WE PULL FOR THE WETLANDS CODE, WE DO PULL THE DEFINITIONS IN THAT CODE SECTION, UM, PRETTY MUCH FROM THE DEQ, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE STATE CODE DEFINITIONS.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE OF THAT ADDRESSES THAT, BUT I DON'T, I HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP TO BE SURE.
SO MR. CHA, UH, WONDERING IF IT MIGHT BE BETTER, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE VERBIAGE IN HERE, WHY COULDN'T WE JUST CITE THAT REFERENCE EITHER THE DEQ OR THE EPA REFERENCE INSTEAD OF US INTERPRETING IT WITH OUR OWN LANGUAGE.
WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY WE'LL BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH, OR YOU CONFORM TO SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT FACT THAT'LL KIND OF KEEP US OUTTA TROUBLE.
WORDSMITHING, I THINK DEFINITION.
WELL IF, IF WHETHER IT'S THIS PARAGRAPH HERE OR IT'S THIS PARAGRAPH HERE SIMPLY BY REFERENCING IT SOMEPLACE ELSE, IT'S THE SAME RULE IN THE SAME REGULATION WITH THE SAME AMBIGUITY OF NEAR THE SURFACE OF THE SOIL.
I'M JUST, MY VIEW IS THIS IS WRONG AND I'VE MADE MY VIEW.
NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, A QUESTION, UM, SOME CLARIFICATION HERE.
SO YOU GOT A DEFINITION OF WHAT, UH, WETLANDS ARE OR NOT, RIGHT? AND BUT THAT'S NOT THE SOLE DETERMINATING FACTOR.
THAT THEN YOU MOVE INTO THE TECHNICAL PART OF IT.
AND IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.
IT HAS TO BE CERTAIN TYPE OF PLANT HAS TO BE, YES.
UH, WATER AT THIS CERTAIN LEVEL.
THERE'S ALL KIND OF OTHER STUFF THERE.
SO THIS IS NOT, THIS DOESN'T MAKE THE DETERMINATION IN AND OF ITSELF.
THIS WOULD BE A DETERMINATION OF A WETLAND.
I CAN'T USE THIS DEFINITION, GO OUT TO MY BACKYARD, IT'S WET AND SAY I HAVE A WETLAND.
RIGHT? THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER SECTION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
AND MR, JUST NOT TO LET, NOT TO BEAT THIS HORSE COMPLETELY DEAD, BUT MY WIFE LOVES RIVER BIRCH TREES, SO I PLANTED A COUPLE OF 'EM ON OUR PROPERTY.
THAT IN ITSELF IS A WETLANDS VEGETATION.
THEN IT GETS TO, IS THERE WATER? AND I READ IT AGAIN NEAR THE SURFACE OF THE SOIL.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY A TEST, YOU DIG DOWN TWO INCHES, 12 INCHES, 13 FEET.
WELL, IT'S, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ASK, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF ADDING THIS VERBIAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE? UH, IT WAS A REQUEST FROM OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST TO ADD IT IN PUBLIC WORKS.
HOW, HOW WOULD IT, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW WOULD IT READ IF WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT? WHAT WAS THE OLD ONE AGAIN? UH, THE OLD ONE ACTUALLY.
SO WETLAND ITSELF DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINITION.
IT LISTED WETLAND AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SPECIFIC DE DEFINITIONS FOR LIKE NON-TITLE AND TITLE THAT WERE ALREADY IN THERE.
IT JUMPED RIGHT INTO THE TECHNICAL TOUGHNESS.
DID SO WITHOUT A OVERALL DEFINITION.
SO IT DIDN'T HAVE LIKE THE GENERAL WETLAND OF, YOU KNOW, ALL ENCOMPASSING.
YEAH, I, I'M MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I'M FAMILIAR WITH WETLAND DELINEATION PROCESSES AND THIS I, I AGREE WOULD ADD SOME CONFUSION WHEN UNNECESSARILY.
I, AGAIN, I WOULD YIELD TO IF WE HAVE EXISTING STANDARDS AND DEFINITIONS IN OTHER REGULATORY DOCUMENTS, WHY NOT JUST, DOES ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTION TO THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TALKING TO STAFF RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL GET INTO, I, I'VE VOICED MY CONCERNS AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE I STAND AND I'LL LET IT LIE THERE.
SO BACK, UH, TO SECTION TWO, UH, 20.5, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
ANYBODY HAVE DISCUSSION OF THAT? OKAY.
SO THEN MOVING ON TO ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT SECTION 24.
OBVIOUSLY MR. KRINER JUST SHARED WITH US HIS CONCERNS THERE.
UH, AS WE GO DOWN THIS LIST, AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET TO THE TABLES, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME DISCUSSION THERE, BUT, UH, ANYTHING ON THE FILING FEES OR SPECIAL USE PERMITS IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG IN THE, THE AMENDMENT.
UH, ANYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER SEES GOING DOWN TO YARD SIGNS EXISTING THROUGH LOTS AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I DUNNO IF IT'S IN THE SECTION, IT'S A RATIONALE, IF I SAW IT CORRECTLY.
GIVEN LANDSCAPE CREDITS FOR, UH, FOR SOMEONE WHO EXCEEDS THE PARKING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, UH, 20 CREDITS FOR EVERY EXTRA 10 SPACES, WHAT'S THE RATIONALE
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BEHIND THAT? WHY WOULD WE GIVE THEM LANDSCAPE CREDITS FOR ADDING MORE PARKING THAN'S NECESSARY? UM, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.SO THIS EXACT LANGUAGE IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S IN THE PARKING SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DUPLICATING THIS IN THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS BECAUSE NO ONE LOOKS FOR IT IN THE PARKING STANDARD.
THIS MEANS THAT IF YOUR WALMART AND YOU BUILD ADDITIONAL PARKING THEN IS REQUIRED BY OUR CODE.
YOU NEED A HUNDRED, YOU BUILD 120, NOW YOU NEED ADDIT.
YOU NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO THE COUNTY ON YOUR PLAN TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
LANDSCAPE CREDIT UNITS IS HOW WE REFER TO IT IN THE CODE.
NOW THEN I WAS READING IT WRONG.
SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GIVING, YOU'RE NOT GIVING THEM CREDIT.
CREDIT LANDSCAPE, CREDIT UNIT IS A TERM IN OUR CODE FOR LANDSCAPING.
SO THEY'LL PROVIDE EXTRA LANDSCAPING.
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE EXTRA LANDSCAPING.
IF THEY, IF THEY PRODU, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE, MAKES SENSE.
IF THEY PROPOSE ADDITIONAL PARKING.
UM, GET TO, UH, I GUESS TO THE TABLE OF LAND USES IF, UH, ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THAT, MR. AMBULANCE? UM, SO DO WE HAVE A DE IS THERE A DEFINITION OF WHAT PRIVATE INSTRUCTION IS? I JUMPED TO THE TABLE.
NO, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A A DEFINITION.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN, UM, SO THE TWO EXAMPLE PHOTOS THAT, UM, JEANIE HAD ON THE TABLE WERE, UH, WE HAD A, A PET GROOMER EDUCATION FACILITY THAT WANTED TO GO IN.
AND SO WE HAD TO KIND OF SHOEHORN THEM INTO A DIFFERENT ONE.
WE WOULD'VE PUT THEM UNDER THIS FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, NOT GONNA GET THE NAME RIGHT, IT'S LIKE A CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY WHERE THEY TRAIN POLICE AND SECURITY OFFICIALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT IS IN NEWPORT NEWS NOW AND IS ACTUALLY MOVING TO YORK COUNTY, UH, TO BUILD A FACILITY.
AND SO AGAIN, WE HAD TO KIND OF SHOEHORN THEM INTO THIS CATEGORY.
SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE PRIVATE INSTRUCTION.
UH, BUT NO, WE DO NOT HAVE A, A DEFINITION OF IT.
SPECIFICALLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GET THE QUESTION ON 24.1 DASH 2 71.
WE'RE ADDING THE USE OF CARGO UNITS AS PROHIBITED.
IS THERE A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE FOR THOSE THAT ARE EXISTING NOW? THEY'RE ALREADY PROHIBITED.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT IN THIS SECTION AGAIN BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS DEALING WITH PORTABLE ON DEMAND STORAGE PODS, WHICH IS THE COMMON TERM FOR IT.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE MOVING, YOU GET A POD DELIVERED AND YOU PUT ALL YOUR STUFF IN THERE AND THEN THEY TAKE YOUR STUFF TO YOUR NEW HOME.
UM, CAR CONTAINERIZED CARGO UNITS HAVE NEVER BEEN PERMITTED.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RESTATE THAT HERE SO THAT WE DON'T CONFUSE ANYTHING.
ALRIGHT, AS WE GO DOWN THE TABLE, UM, AGAIN, IF ANYBODY SEES SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN ON, I'M LOOKING AT CATEGORY 13 SHOPPING CENTERS AND BUSINESS PARKS.
THE SUB NOTE THAT WAS ADDED TO THE ONE THAT'S REFERENCING SECTION 24.1 DASH 4 82, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE WAREHOUSE THAT WE DISCUSSED SOME MONTHS AGO, UH, ABOUT CONCERNS OVER TRAFFIC, UH, AND HOW THAT SHOULD CHANGE HOW THAT IS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION OR BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, WE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, GROUP AND I, I SEE BOTH POINTS.
I SEE WHERE THE, UH, FORMER COMMISSIONER WAS RAISING THE CONCERN AND THE POINT OF EXISTING ROADWAYS AND THE BEARING OF TRAFFIC CHANGES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT I THINK THE, WE SHOULD TAKE HEED AND NOTE TO THE FACT THAT MAKING CHANGES PROPOSED HERE WOULD IN FACT AFFECT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABILITY TO SOLICIT, UH, BUSINESSES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK MAYBE MAKING A MODIFICATION OR A MINOR CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE, UH, WOULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE CONCERNS FOR TRAFFIC THAT MR. ROY BROUGHT UP AND ALSO, UH, MEET THE CONCERNS THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAD COME UP WITH.
WELL, LEMME JUST CLARIFY BECAUSE MR. MEAD IS ON THE EDA, BUT THAT IS NOT
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WAY HE REPRESENTED HIMSELF AND HIS LETTER, HE, HE REPRESENTED HIMSELF AS AS A REAL ESTATE, UH, UNDERSTAND, CORRECT.PERSON, BUT YES, I MEAN HE IS ON THE EDA.
WE DID RUN THE LANGUAGE BY THE EDA CHAIR AND A COUPLE OTHER INDIVIDUALS ON THE EDA AND THEY HAD NO CONCERNS WITH IT.
THEY FELT THAT IT WAS, IT WAS FINE.
UH, MR. MEAD'S CONCERNS WERE MORE FOR, UH, WAREHOUSE THAT MIGHT HAVE TWO OR THREE STORIES WITHIN IT.
UM, AND WE HAD A, OR MS. CASTLE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
UM, AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN A WAREHOUSE THAT HAS MULTI STORIES WITHIN IT.
IT MIGHT HAVE LIKE A MEZZANINE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME STORAGE, BUT REALLY THE, HE, HE WAS COMING AT IT FROM MORE OF A VOLUME STANDPOINT.
AND I THINK THE CONCERN FOR MR. HORO WAS HAVING THE GROSS FLOOR AREA BEING THE EQUAL.
SO EVEN, EVEN IF YOU HAD MULTI STORIES, YOU STILL HAVE THE VOLUME THERE.
UM, SO I THINK KEEPING IT THE WAY IT'S BEEN PROPOSED WILL, WILL CAPTURE WHAT MR. MEAD IS THINKING ABOUT, UM, IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
UM, BUT IT STILL STILL ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE, WE WERE TOLD, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE KIND OF LARGE FACILITIES AND THE WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC.
SO THE, THE TERM GROSS FLOOR AREA, UH, VERSUS AS HE HAD MENTIONED WAS THE FLOOR AREA OR THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
'CAUSE I, I COULD SEE THE POINT THAT IF YOU'RE USING GROSS, THEN YOU MAY, THAT WOULD INCLUDE YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE AREA IN ANY, ANY OTHER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INDICATE INCREASED TRUCK TRAFFIC, IF YOU WILL.
UM, BUT THE WAREHOUSE STORAGE FOOTPRINT CERTAINLY WOULD.
I MEAN MY SUGGESTION MAY BE, UH, MR. CHAIR THAT WE MAYBE TWEAK THAT WORDING A LITTLE BIT INSTEAD OF IT BEING GROSS, UM, FLOOR AREA THAT WE CHANGE IT TO SOMEONE OF THE EFFECT OF WAREHOUSE STORAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT SO THAT IT MORE REFLECTS.
'CAUSE THAT'S HIS CONCERN IS THAT THE MORE SPACE YOU HAVE FOR STORAGE, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC YOU'RE GENERATING AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT YOU COULD PUT A MEZZANINE UP THAT HAS STORAGE ON IT, WHICH WOULD INCREASE YOUR STORAGE SPACE.
THOUGHTS? SO IF I MAY, SO THE REASON WE USED GROSS FLOOR AREA IS THAT IS ALSO IDENTICAL LANGUAGE TO ANOTHER SECTION OF OUR CODE.
UH, IN OUR TABLE OF LAND USES, IF YOU HAVE A RETAIL USE THAT HAS OVER 80,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, THAT ALSO REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USED GROSS FLOOR AREA BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ANTICIPATING THE USE OF THE SAME, IN THE SAME CAPACITY.
SO WE'RE SAYING THEN IN EFFECT THAT BY KEEPING THE GROSSED SQUARE FOOTAGE AS PRESENTED WILL NOT AFFECT THE ABILITY TO SECURE BUSINESSES FOR YOUR COUNTY VERSUS ANOTHER, VERSUS ANOTHER.
WE'VE NEVER HAD A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF GR OF WAREHOUSE PROPOSED NORTH POINT.
THE DEVELOPMENT THAT MR. HOARD WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OVERALL IN TWO PHASES HAD OVER THAT.
BUT IN THEIR FIRST PHASE THEY DID NOT HAVE A MILLION SQUARE FEET.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND TO DEVELOP THAT MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WAREHOUSE.
UM, MOVING ON, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE TABLES? THE LAND USAGE TABLES? I HAVE OKAY.
DUNNO WHAT TOOK MR. T UNDER THE, UH, THE MICROPHONE CATEGORY UNDER CATEGORY 15, THE THREE A TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
TECHNOLOGY MANUFACTURING, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS SO BROAD.
UH, IT NEEDS TO BE NARROWED DOWN SOMEHOW.
SO WE'VE HAD INQUIRIES FOR, UM, USE LIKE A SATELLITE MANUFACTURER, UM, AND WE'VE HAD TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE IT COULD FIT.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE TECHNOLOGY WOULD BE A BETTER WORD FOR THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A SATELLITE, IT COULD BE A COMPUTER COMPANY PUTTING COMPUTERS TOGETHER.
IT COULD BE A DRONE MANUFACTURER.
UM, IT COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF TECHNOLOGY BASED THINGS THAT, UM, WE WOULD ALLOW AS MANUFACTURING.
AND WE FELT LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN ILIG, THAT'S WHERE OUR, OUR INDUSTRIAL PIECES ARE.
AND THEN ALLOWING IT IN GB OR EO COULD BE A SMALL MANUFACTURER MAYBE, UM, THAT WANTS TO OPERATE OUT OF A, OF A, OUT OF A LOCATION THAT FALLS IN ONE OF THOSE ZONING.
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SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THAT CASE.BUT IT COULD ALSO BE, UH, CHEMICAL MANUFACTURERS TECHNOLOGY.
IT COULD BE, UH, ENGINE TECHNOLOGY, IT COULD BE, UH, BIOTECH TECHNOLOGY.
IT COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE SAME AREA.
SOME OF THOSE WE WOULD NOT WANT.
I BELIEVE CHEMICAL IS CALLED OUT IN ANOTHER PART OF THE ZONING ORDER IN THE TABLE.
UH, THIS DOESN'T COVER ALL THE USES THAT ARE IN THE, IN THIS SECTION.
IT'S AN IG, BUT I DO BELIEVE CHEMICAL IS IN THERE.
UM, THAT'S THE, THE NEXT CATEGORY.
COULD WE JUST SAY COMPUTER AND SIMILAR MANUFACTURING? WOULD THAT COVER IT? THAT'S A DISCUSSION POINT FOR YOU ALL.
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE FEEL LIKE YES, IT MAY COVER SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UM, BUT IT'S NOT IN AN AREA WHERE WE WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE.
I MEAN, IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF A BIOTECH COMPANY COMES IN AND WANTS TO GO ON ROUTE 17, THAT'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
IS IT GONNA FIT IN THAT LOCATION? THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT IF IT WAS GOING IN ONE OF OUR INDUSTRIAL PARKS, ONE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILT TO HANDLE THOSE KINDS OF OPERATIONS.
AT, AT ONE POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT A, A AIR DRONE PARK OR SOMETHING IN, IN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY AND THIS WOULD COVER THAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY 'CAUSE IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY COMPUTER, BUT I MEAN, I CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IT GETS TOO TO HAZARDOUS TYPE THINGS, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY AND DRONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK ARE NEED TO FIT SOMEWHERE.
UH, OTHER COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR, ONE QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
UM, ON SUBDIVISION SIGNS, I KNOW, I KNOW THE CODE IS MONUMENT MOUNTED AND IT'S NOT ADDRESSED IN HERE.
UH, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT, OTHER THAN I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL SIGNS.
I KNOW IN ONE AREA OF THE COUNTY, THEY BUILT A MONUMENT SIGN ON ONE SIDE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE LAND TO BUILD A MONUMENT SIDE ON THE OTHER ENTRANCE.
AND THEY WANTED TO PUT A FREESTANDING, I'LL CALL IT FREESTANDING, UH, SHINGLE TYPE THING.
AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE ORDINANCE.
DO WE HAVE ANY, YOU SAID THAT'S FOR, UH, SUBDIVISION SIGN RESIDENTIAL? YEAH.
SO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, CORRECT? YES.
THAT'S A, THAT IS ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S UNDER, IT'S UNDER A DIFFERENT SIGN SECTION.
UM, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, LIKE TO SEE IT.
UM, BUT IT NOT, WAS NOT PROPOSED FOR CHANGE.
THE, UH, MONUMENT SIGNS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WERE ON BASICALLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, ANOTHER QUESTION ON SIGNS, IF I MAY.
UM, POLITICAL SIGNS, WE, I THINK I HEARD WE'VE, UH, ADDED ANOTHER 30 DAYS, 60 TO 90 BEFORE THE ELECTION, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF A, A TIME LIMIT ON WHEN THE SIGNS HAVE TO BE COLLECTED AFTER THE ELECTION? THEY CAN BE OUT FOR 10 DAYS AFTER.
10 DAYS POST-ELECTION IS THEIR LIMIT.
IS THERE A LIMIT? THEY GOTTA COLLECT THEM ALL WITHIN 10 DAYS.
OF COURSE IT'S A ENFORCEMENT ISSUE BECAUSE, AND THAT'S, YEAH.
AND THAT'S IN THAT LANGUAGE, IF YOU READ IT WHERE IT SAYS EXTENDED WE'RE FROM 60 TO 90, THE LAST PAGE OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO B 90, WE ADDED 90 INSTEAD OF 60, BUT RIGHT AFTER THAT IT SAYS PRIOR TWO AND 10 DAYS AFTER.
SO THEY HAVE 10 DAYS TO COLLECT THEM.
AND USUALLY CANDIDATES, THE THE SIGNS THE CANDIDATES PUT OUT, THEY DEPLOY PEOPLE TO GO COLLECT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S THE ONE THING IF YOU HAVE ONE IN YOUR YARD, YOU MAY KEEP IT
I'VE NOTICED THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM ARE STILL UP THERE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TEMPORARY SIGNS TOO.
I UNDERSTAND RIGHT? IT WAS THE POLITICAL PARTIES OR SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO EXTEND IT.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IN THE STAFF THAT THIS YEAR THERE'LL BE APOL WITH 90 DAYS, THERE'LL BE 300 DAYS OF POLITICAL SIGNS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE UP IN THE COUNTY? LITTLE OVER 300 DAYS BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION IS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR.
AND SOME OF THESE PERIODS COULD OVERLAP.
THIS ONE IT DIDN'T QUITE BY A WEEK OR SO.
WE HAD THE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN MARCH AND THEN WE HAD A, A, UH, CONGRESSIONAL PRIMARY IN JUNE.
THOSE THINGS WERE ABOUT 95 DAYS APART, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IF THEY WERE JUST MOVED A LITTLE BIT, THEY
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WOULD BE OVERLAPPING.AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO MOVE IT FROM 16 TO 90 DAYS.
60 DAYS COVERS EARLY ELECTION.
IT'S 46 DAYS OUT FROM ELECTION PERIOD.
SO THEY GOT TWO WEEKS TO PUT THE SIGNS OUT BEFORE THEY START EARLY, EARLY VOTING.
AND ABOUT THE SAME TIME, IN FACT THIS YEAR, 90 DAYS, THEY WON'T EVEN HAVE CANDIDATES IN 90 DAYS OUT FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL.
AT LEAST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MAY NOT HAVE THE CANDIDATES OUT BY THAT TIME.
MAY NOT HAVE BALLOTS PRINTED, MAY NOT BE APPROVED BY ANYBODY THIS PARTICULAR YEAR BECAUSE OF WAY THAT THE CALENDAR IS, IS ROLLING OUT.
SO DID Y'ALL DISCUSS THAT AT ALL? YES.
WE HAD, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
UM, BECAUSE THE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, WITH EARLY MAIL-IN BALLOTING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, HAPPENING EARLIER AND EARLIER AND EARLIER, UH, CANDIDATES WEREN'T ABLE TO PUT OUT THEIR SIGNS EARLY ENOUGH TO START ALLOWING AND THAT'S BAD THAT ADVERTISEMENT
WELL, I MEAN THAT IS IN YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION.
UH, BUT WE DID HAVE CANDIDATES, YOU KNOW, WHO WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST BEGGING TO PUT SIGNS OUT OR THEY HAD PUT SIGNS OUT AND THEN THEIR OPPONENT WAS COMPLAINING.
WELL, THEY PUT THEIR SIGNS OUT TOO EARLY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE AS AN ENFORCEMENT STAFF, WERE TRYING TO FIGURE ALL OF THAT OUT.
AND SO WE FIGURED THAT 90 DAYS WOULD BE, WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY EVEN IF IT'S OVERLAPPING TO, TO GET THEIR SIGNS OUT AND HAVE THEM OUT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CONFLICT.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, APPEAL TO THOSE THAT ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE WHO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT THEIR NAME OUT THERE.
ONE MORE LITTLE COMMENT ON THAT, 'CAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE DISCUSSED IT, BUT THE, UH, GIVEN THAT THE MARCH, UH, PRIMARY AND THE JUNE PRIMARY WAS SO CLOSE TOGETHER, THERE COULD BE THE OVERLAP.
AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE READS HERE, WHILE I'M SURE THE INTENT IS NOT FOR A NATIONAL OR OR A STATE ELECTION TO THE SIGNS FOR A STATE ELECTION COULD BE PUT OUT 90 DAYS BEFORE A LOCAL ELECTION BECAUSE IF THEY OVERLAP, I DUNNO IF I SAY, SO YOU HAVE A, A LOCAL ELECTION FOR 90 DAYS, A STATE ELECTION FOR 90 DAYS, AND ALL IT SAYS IS THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO PUT 'EM OUT BEFORE AN ELECTION SOMEWHERE IN HERE.
IT ALSO SAYS THE ELECTION CANVASES ARE PRIMARY TO WHICH THEY PERTAIN IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO PULL THE, PULL THE SIGNS DOWN.
SO IT SAYS A NATIONAL, SO THE WAY YOU WOULD READ IT IS A NATIONAL ELECTION OR A STATE ELECTION OR A LOCAL ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE WORD ORDER IN THERE.
SO IT WOULD, COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE STATE CANDIDATES THAT ARE UP THERE FOR 90 DAYS AND THEN OKAY.
YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL ELECTION STARTS HALFWAY THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THEY PUT THEIRS UP, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO THERE, THERE COULD BE SOME OVERLAP, BUT IT WON'T BE THE SAME PERSON SIGN UP FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE PERIODS OF ELECTION TIME.
IT'S EITHER NATIONAL, STATE, OR LOCAL.
THE WAY IT'S WORDED, THE WAY THIS IS WORDED, I THINK IT COULD BE THAT YOU TAKE THE SIGNS DOWN IF I SOMEWHERE IN HERE YOU, WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT TAKING THE SIGNS DOWN ON THE SEVEN DAYS, GOING TO 10 DAYS, WELL SEVEN DAYS NOW IS GONNA MOVE TO 10 DAYS TO THE ELECTION CAM TO WHICH THEY PERTAIN.
NOW THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW IS 10 DAYS.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT CHANGING, NOT CHANGING IT.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE ONE I READ SOMETHING ELSE I READ HERE THAT OKAY, I STAND CORRECTED.
SO YOU'RE, IT SAYS, BUT IT SAYS THEY THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN 10 DAYS AFTER WHATEVER ELECTION DAYS AFTER 10 DAYS AFTER THE PRIMARY OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR WHICH THEY PERTAIN, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
BUT IT DOES NOT SAY THEY HAVE TO GO UP TO THE ELECTION IN WHICH THEY PERTAIN.
MAYBE IT'S JUST A COMMON SENSE THING.
BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND ELECTIONS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE IS NO COMMON SENSE WHEN THEY COME WITH POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE ELECTION
THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT, SO YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO JUST SAY THEY CAN'T GO UP 90 DAYS FOR ELECTION OF WHICH THEY PERTAIN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTION TO THAT OR DO I MEAN, IS THAT TOO MUCH CLARIFICATION? COULD YOU, COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
THEY CAN'T GO UP BEFORE 90 DAYS.
BEFORE 90 DAYS OF THE ELECTION, WHICH THEY PERTAIN.
SO WE SAY FROM 90 DAYS PRIOR TO A NATIONAL OR STATE OR LOCAL ELECTION.
YEAH, THE ELECTION CANVAS OR PRIMARY TO WHICH THEY, THEY CAN'T GO UP NI OVER 90 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION CANVAS, OR PRIMARY TO WHICH THEY PERTAIN.
HIS CONCERN I THINK IS THAT A CANDIDATE COULD PUT 'EM UP 180 DAYS AHEAD BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY HE SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO THAT ELECTION TO SAY, WELL, IT'S AN ELECTION, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING.
IT, I MEAN IT THAT NATIONAL, STATE OR LOCAL, I MEAN IT FALLS WITHIN WONDER, THE ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
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YOU CAN'T PUT UP A BIDEN SIGN DURING THE LOCAL ELECTION.THAT WOULD NOT BE, I MEAN THEY, THEY WOULD NOT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ELECTION CYCLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WORD OR IN THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE INTENT.
I ALSO DO NOT SEE THAT IN WRITING.
WELL, I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
THE OR DOES NOT, DOES NOT COVER.
IT SAYS A STATE, A NATIONAL, STATE, OR LOCAL ELECTION.
IT DOESN'T SAY AND IT SAYS OR, OR I UNDERSTAND.
IT SAYS, I THINK IT COVERS IT.
ANY OTHER COM OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NO.
WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'VE GOT ONE PERSON SIGNED UP, UH, TIM DAVIS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND YOUR, AND YOUR TIME.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY? WE CAN NOW.
NOW, UM, MY WIFE AND I ARE IN THE ICE VENDING BUSINESS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR 15 YEARS IN VIRGINIA.
WE, UH, STARTED THIS BUSINESS IN VIRGINIA.
WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO PUT A ICE VENDING MACHINE IN IN VIRGINIA.
UM, WE, UM, HAVE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MACHINES IN THE TIDEWATER AREA AND OPERATION.
WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO HAVE, UM, TO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MACHINES IN YORK COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS.
AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE STAFF IN, IN PRESENTING THIS, THIS ORDINANCE, UH, IN DRAFT FORM SO WE COULD HAVE A, UH, OPEN OUR BUSINESS HERE.
UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST KINDA SHOOTING OFF THE CUFF HERE.
BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED IN THE LANGUAGE.
UM, THE FIRST THING IS, THE DEFINITION IS MENTIONS A 15 FOOT HEIGHT.
OUR MACHINES ARE 18 FEET AND THEY, THE ROOF LINE.
AND THEN ONCE YOU PUT THE I, YOU HAVE THE ICE MAKER, AND THESE ARE LARGE INDUSTRIAL ICE MAKERS, THEY MAKE 40 POUNDS OF ICE EVERY NINE MINUTES.
AND THE, WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE ICE MAKER ON THE ROOF, UM, THEY, THEY WOULD EXCEED THAT 15 FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO REQUEST THAT THAT HEIGHT, UH, BE CHANGED.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, THIS IS NOT, UH, DIRE, BUT, UM, WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE FOUND REALLY GOOD SITES ON THE EDGE OF A PARKING LOT, WHERE WE COULD PUT THE MACHINE ON THE GRASS AND THE CUSTOMERS WOULD COME UP ON IN THE PARKING AREA AND COME TO THE, TO THE, TO THE MACHINE AND, AND VENT THEIR EYES.
UM, WE'VE, ONE OF THE CITIES THAT, UH, PASSED THEIR ORDINANCE WOULD NOT ALLOW THESE MACHINES ON GRASS.
AND THE YORK COUNTY STAFF HAS, HAS PULLED THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE FROM THAT OTHER CITY.
UM, AND IT FAVORS US BECAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO GET THE UTILITIES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP A PARKING LOT TO, TO GET THOSE TO THE MACHINE.
AND THEN THE, THE BACK OF THE ICE HAS A DRAIN AND IT ALLOWS THE WATER TO DRAIN OUT THE BACK AND WE CAN JUST ALLOW THAT WATER TO DRAIN STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND INSTEAD OF CUTTING A BUNCH OF PIPES AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO COME OFF A PARKING LOT, UM, TO GO DRAIN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND IF IT'S LIKE CUTTING TREES DOWN AND STUFF.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SIMPLISTIC.
BUT I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? IF NOT, WE'LL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, START, UH, MR. KRINER, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO RAISING THE 15 FEET UP TO SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE.
I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE ICE HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT OF THE MACHINE GOES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS IN GENERAL THAT YOU WANNA ADDRESS OR JUST THAT WAS IT.
IS, UM, MR. KING, ANY STAFF COMMENT ON THE, UH, MR. ANDERSON? ANY RATIONALE BEHIND THE HEIGHT WE PROPOSED VERSUS WHAT, UH, UM, THE GENTLEMAN HERE OFFERED? I MEAN, I, GO AHEAD, MS. CASTLE.
NO, THAT'S, UH, SO, UH, WE HAD ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED THAT AS ONE OF THE SIZES OF, UH, ICE SPENDING.
UM, AND, BUT I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO CHANGING IT TO 18.
I, I, I SUPPORT THE, UH, UH, I SUPPORT THE GENTLEMAN'S, UH, CHANGE.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN SECTION 1 0 4 AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR ORDINANCE.
THE DEFINITION, THAT FIRST LINE WE'D CHANGE 15 TO 18.
AND THEN THE OTHER SECTION HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS BACK IN 4 69.
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THAT'S E MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD.ONE THING I WOULD CLARIFY IS, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS NOT A GREEN AREA.
SO AS LONG AS HE'S OUTSIDE THE LANDSCAPE YARD, HE COULD STILL PUT IN A IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
SO A CONCRETE PAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT PER, IT'S NOT TELL SAYING HE CAN'T BE ON THE EDGE OF A PARKING LOT.
WHAT IT'S SAYING IS HE CAN'T BE IN ANY LANDSCAPED OR GREEN AREA THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, SO IF, YOU KNOW, A SHOPPING CENTER HAD AN EXTRA GREEN AREA ON ONE SIDE OF THEIR LOT AND HE WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT A CONCRETE PAD THERE, WE'RE JUST NOT SAYING YOU JUST CAN'T DROP IT ON THE GRASS AND LEAVE IT ON THE GRASS.
IT NEEDS TO BE A DEVELOPED SITE, IS WHAT, WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO.
AND I, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS SAYING AND I I I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE GREEN AREAS ARE COUNTED FOR THE BUSINESS THAT GOT APPROVED AND IF YOU LET SOMEONE TAKE AWAY FROM IT RIGHT, THEN THEY NO LONGER MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO CLARIFY TO, YOU KNOW, CAN'T, CAN'T REDUCE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF GREEN AREA, UH, FOR THE, UH, MAIN USE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT A PAD DOWN, IT COULD BE IN A, A LANDSCAPED AREA AS LONG AS THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN CLEAR THAT, CLARIFY THAT FORM.
'CAUSE IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME.
IF YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE EDGE OF A CURB AND IT HAPPENS TO BE IN A GRASS AREA, BUT, AND IT'S NOT TAKEN AWAY, THE REQUIRED GREEN AREA, SOMEONE PULL UP RIGHT TO IT ON THE, ON THE PARKING LOT, RIGHT.
IN THAT ICE DISPENSER INSTEAD OF HAVING IT SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARKING LOT.
AND, UM, SO I, I CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY, IF YOU READ EI THINK IT, I MEAN THAT IT DOES SAY THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S E UNDER 4 69.
THE NEXT PAGE, I MEAN, IT SAYS THE SELF SURFACE VENDING UNIT SHALL BE INSTALLED ON AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOME KIND OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND SHALL NOT BE INSTALLED ON ANY GREEN AREA.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE, THE LANDSCAPE AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, I MEAN, DOES THAT ADDRESS IT FOR WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT MR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION OF WHAT GREEN AREA IS.
UM, THIS WHOLE SUBJECT KINDA CAME UP WHEN, UM, A TOPIC OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND ADDING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DEALING WITH SUCH A SMALL LITTLE UNIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE SOMEBODY'S A STORAGE SAID IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.
SO, UM, THEY DIDN'T WANT, THIS OTHER CITY DID NOT WANT US TO CREATE NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
SO THEY HAD RESTRICTED US TO OUS SURFACE USE ONLY.
BUT, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION AS TO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IN THE INTERPRETATION AT ALL.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GO FOR.
I THINK WE JUST WERE MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS ON PERVIOUS SURFACE.
I MEAN, I, I HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, THE IN, IN THE, THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING IS ON, IS THEY'RE ON PADS, IT'S ELEVATED, IT'S ON PADS.
BUT, UM, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE, UH, SOME CONDENSATION UNDER, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE UNIT'S 37 DEGREES IN THE SUMMERTIME.
UM, AND, UH, SO TO HAVE IT ON A, IN A GROUND AREA, IT'S, IT, IT JUST MAKES USE OF AND MAIN MAINTENANCE OF THE UNIT AND IT MAKES IT FOR FRIENDLY FOR, FOR EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE WATER GOING ALL OVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCRETE SOMEWHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S S DRIPPING DOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DRAINAGE AND STUFF THAT THAT GOES OUT AND, UH, BUT THE, THE, THE GRASSY TYPE AREAS WOULD BE REALLY IDEAL FOR US.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING GO TEAR UP LAND TO DO IT.
BUT, UH, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WAS SUGGESTING THOSE TYPES OF AREAS JUST RIGHT OFF NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT WITH SOME GRASS THAT'S NOT LANDSCAPE WOULD BE FINE.
ONE LAST COMMENT WHILE YOU WERE UP HERE, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT PICTURE OF THE ICE MACHINE WE SAW THERE, THAT WASN'T YOURS, WAS IT? IT WAS THE ONE IN DENBY, YES.
IT'S, IT'S, WE DON'T NEED THAT IN THE COUNTY LOOKING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME.
AND THE ICE MACHINE IN, IN THE PARKING LOT BY THE FORT YUI SECOND ENTRANCE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THE COUNTY.
IT MIGHT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY, BUT IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.
I'M JUST MAKING THAT COMMENT TO YOU.
SO, UM, YEAH, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHASTIZE YOU OR ANYTHING.
AND, BUT WE, WE'VE GOT SOME BETTER STANDARDS HERE IN THE COUNTY AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF THEY INSTALL SOMETHING, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN THAT.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO MOVE ON, SIR.
UM, ANY GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO A MOTION? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NOTES OF THINGS THAT WE WANNA
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CHANGE OR CONSIDER.ONE WOULD BE THE 18 FOOT, UH, ON THE, ON THE, UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE ICE ICE MACHINES.
UH, DID OR DELETE THE ICE AND THEN DELETE THE PARAGRAPH ON THE WETLANDS, RIGHT? YES.
AND I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN'T YES, PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC UNDER THE POLITICAL SCIENCE, BECAUSE THAT WAS UNDER THE POLITICAL SCIENCE.
'CAUSE I, I GOT ALL HOSTILE THERE, I GUESS.
BUT ANYWAY, AT LEAST MY, MY CODE FROM MY BOOK THAT I'VE HAD, BUT I'VE HAD IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
IT DOES SHOW SEVEN DAYS FOLLOWING THE ELECTION.
AND IT, AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT, UH, IN WHICH IT RETAINS AND SHALL BE REMOVED SEVEN DAYS FOLLOWING THE ELECTION.
CHE, THE DEPART, THE CURRENT CODE SAYS 10 DAYS.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS CHANGED, BUT THE CURRENT CODE NEEDS 10 DAYS.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT I HAD.
I DON'T, I COULD BE OUTDATED FOR SURE.
ANY OTHER CHANGES BESIDES THE DELETING THE WETLANDS? UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE ICE MACHINE? UM, YOU KNOW, WE ADDRESSED THE WAREHOUSES, UH, FROM THE EDA AND I THINK WE'RE OKAY LEAVING, UH, AS IS.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE OR GENERAL COMMENTS, UH, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? OKAY.
SOMEBODY WANT TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION? I'LL, I'LL TRY.
MR. CHAIRMAN,
UM, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WAS OKAY WITH THE DEFINITION, UH, WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT GREEN AREA.
I THINK HE WAS SATISFIED WITH THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, STAFF FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, AND, UM, I SUPPORT REMOVAL OF THE DEFINITION OF WETLANDS, UH, PER OUR DISCUSSION.
ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I'M MAKING A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, A MOTION'S BEEN MADE.
AND THAT WOULD BE 24 DASH 13 R.
THE MOTION BY MR. KING IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 24 DASH 13 R TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO THE YORK COUNTY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE YORK COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.
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SO YOU ALL HAVE YOUR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.UH, SO I'LL NOTE ON JUNE 18TH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DID APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE REZONING.
UH, THEY DID EXCLUDE THAT PROPERTY ON WOLF TRAP ROAD.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY APPROVED ALL THE OTHER, UM, REZONINGS FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PROJECT.
UM, THE BOARD DID, UH, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE HOME OCCUPATION ORDINANCE, AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED THAT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL SEPTEMBER 17TH SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION.
UM, AND STAFF CAN GAIN SOME INPUT ON THE EXISTING PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UH, FROM CITIZENS AND OTHER AND THE BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVE TIME TO, TO, TO GIVE US THEIR INPUT.
SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING UP ON A WORK SESSION FOR THE BOARD.
UM, MAYBE IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS COMING UP ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING NEXT WEEK, JULY 16TH.
UH, THE BOARD HAS APPROVED THE BOARD POLICY FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, SO THEY APPROVED THAT POLICY, WHICH IMPLEMENTED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CHANGES LIKE, UM, DENSITY, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM RENTALS CAN'T BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER, UH, THAT THEY, THE OWNER OR RESPONSIBLE PARTY HAS TO BE WITHIN 3000 FEET OF THE EXISTING STR, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT WERE ON HOLD.
SO HOPED DURLEY AND, UH, MR. HOWARD'S APPLICATIONS WILL MOVE FORWARD NEXT WEEK.
UH, WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE U-HAUL THERE ON MERRIMACK TRAIL.
UH, THE SIGN FOR LEGACY YACHT CLUB OR, UH, YACHT LEGACY YACHT GROUP, THE OLD DARE MARINA, AND THEN ALSO WILLIAMSBURG GOLF INVESTORS.
SO IT'LL BE A HEAVY AGENDA NEXT WEEK FOR THE BOARD, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL, WILL MOVE THROUGH.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE TOBIN APPLICATION, UH, WILL BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, AND THAT'S AN, THAT'S ANOTHER STR THAT'S BEEN ON HOLD.
UM, OTHER ITEMS FOR YOUR AGENDA IN AUGUST? UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK THE, UH, MARQUEE CROSSING APPLICATION.
THAT'S THE APPLICATION ACROSS FROM MARQUEE SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, THEY HAVE REDESIGNED, UH, HOW THEY HAVE LAID
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THINGS OUT.THEY'VE MOVED THE APARTMENTS AROUND RECONFIGURED SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT, WE'LL BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW IT AGAIN.
UM, ALSO, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE AN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU, ANOTHER ZONING AMENDMENT, BUT THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE DETAILED.
UH, SO WE'LL HAVE SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO, UM, ADD DATA CENTERS TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
A FEW SITE LANDS THAT, UH, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN IS THE PANDA EXPRESS, UH, CAME IN AND, UH, I JUST SIGNED THAT TODAY.
SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL START CONSTRUCTION HERE SOON.
THAT'S UP THERE ON MOTOWN ROAD.
UH, WE ALSO GOT THE SITE PLAN FOR TO EXPRESS CAR WASH, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF KROGER.
IT'S REPLACING THE WHITE QUICK, UM, CAR WASH THAT USED TO BE THERE.
AND WE ALSO GOT, UM, OUR SITE PLAN FOR THE PARKWAY PRINT SHOP.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A WINDOW DETAILING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT ONE.
AND SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THEIR, UH, MID, UM, SITE PLAN FOR US TO REVIEW.
I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS MOST OF THE ONES THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE'S OTHER ONES ON THERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WE, UM, WE PUT YOUR 2024 FY 2024, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT ON YOUR AGENDA.
THANK YOU MR. SMITH FOR, UH, GETTING US, UH, INFORMATION ON THAT.
BUT, UM, THIS DETAILS OUT ALL THE, UM, APPLICATIONS, UH, THAT YOU ALL DID OVER THE LAST PHYSICAL YEAR.
UH, YOU CAN SEE YOU WERE ALL, WERE PRETTY BUSY, UM, COMPARED TO FY 23.
UH, WE HAD A FEW MORE CASES, UH, COME IN THAT WE DID BEFORE.
UM, AND YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB OF HANDLING THEM.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LET STAFF KNOW.
OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I THINK THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING WITH OUR INTERNS.
UM, I KNOW AT LEAST MADISON WON'T BE WITH US IN AUGUST.
UM, AND, AND JUDE MAY, I BELIEVE MIGHT BE HERE WITH US.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT DATE RIGHT,
UH, BUT MATT, THIS IS MADISON'S LAST TIME.
WE, SHE'S BEEN A EXCELLENT, UM, INTERN WITH US.
SHE'S, UH, SHE AND JUDE HAVE DONE SOME TERRIFIC RESEARCH, UH, THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE DATA CENTER, UM, AT YOU'RE MEETING NEXT MONTH.
UH, THEY'VE ALSO DONE SOME GREAT WORK WITH OUR, UH, LANDSCAPE AND BUFFER ORDINANCE PIECES, UM, AS WELL AS SOME LITTLE PROJECTS HERE AND THERE THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM.
UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE UH, HOPEFULLY HAD A GOOD TIME AND HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, KNOW THEY'VE GOTTEN AROUND TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY, UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF PLANNING.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE THAT THEY CAN TAKE BACK TO THEIR, UH, MADISON'S MASTERS PROGRAM.
AND THEN JUDE AS HE GOES INTO HIS BACHELOR'S PROGRAM.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT US WHEN YOU HIT THE JOB MARKET.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND, UH, BEING HERE WITH US THIS SUMMER.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DON'T SEE ANY COMMISSION, UH, REPORTS OR, UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED.