* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'M GONNA CALL [Call to Order] THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND WELCOME TO THE MAY 21ST, UH, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. I ASKED IF YOU HAVE ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICES. MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL ON SILENT. AND, UM, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. ROY? HERE. MRS. NOLL. HERE. MR. DREWRY. PRESENT. MR. ROWN? HERE. MR. SHEPHERD. HERE. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GONNA START OFF TONIGHT WITH ONE OF OUR YOUTH, UH, YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS MOANA JACKSON, FOR OCCASION. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME TOGETHER TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, TO MAKE THOUGHTFUL DECISIONS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE WELLBEING OF OUR, OF OUR CON OKAY. AND THE PROSPERITY OF OUR REGION THROUGH YOU. WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US APPROACH OUR DELIBERATIONS WITH OPEN HEARTS AND OPEN MINDS READY TO LISTEN TO DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES AND ENGAGE IN CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE. HELP US REMEMBER THAT IT IS OUR DUTY TO REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF OUR RE, OF OUR RESIDENTS, ENSURING FAIRNESS AND EQUITY IN OUR ACTIONS. AS WE EMBARK ON THIS MEETING, HELP US SEE CLARITY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, COURAGE IN OUR DECISION MAKING, AND UNITY IN OUR PURPOSE. MAY OUR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS BE GUIDED BY THE PRINCIPLES OF TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. MAY WE HONOR YOU AND FIND COMMON GROUND AND WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR ALL. IN THE LORD'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER MEMBER OF OUR YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION, JACOB CORBETT, WILL BE LEADING US IN THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. SO PLEASE STAND AS YOU'RE ABLE IN THE FACE OF FLAG. MR. CORBERT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NOW [1* VML Region 8 Winner. Presentation by Grafton Middle School Student Jay Reese “If I Were Mayor.” ] WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING. I WANNA CALL ON MR. JAY REESE FROM GRAFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL. UM, YOU HAVE A LITTLE THING YOU GOTTA SHARE WITH US, MS. MR. REESE, RIGHT THERE IN THE MICROPHONE. YEAH. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. SO I WROTE, UM, I WROTE AN ESSAY ON, UM, HOW I COULD, UM, IF I WERE MAYOR FOR VIRGINIA, HOW I COULD OH, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I WROTE AN ESSAY ON HOW I COULD, UM, IF I WERE MAYOR, A PROBLEM I COULD SOLVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND THIS IS WHAT I WROTE. SO IMAGINE DRIVING ON A MAJOR ROAD IN YOUR CITY AND WATCHING SOMEBODY DASH ACROSS IT TO THE OTHER SIDE WHEN THE STOPLIGHT TURNS RED. WONDERING HOW SOMEBODY COULD BE CRAZY ENOUGH TO BRAVE THE ROADWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY? YOU SEARCH FOR THE CROSSWALKS THAT THE PERSON COULD USE TO SAFELY CROSS THE STREET. HOWEVER YOU FIND NONE. MY COMMUNITY OF THE YORKTOWN SLASH GRAFTON SLASH HAMPTON ROADS AREA LACKS CROSSWALKS, SIDEWALKS, AND BIKE LANES. TRANSPORTATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THIS MODERN WORLD, BUT LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE CAN LIMIT THE POSSIBILITIES OF NON-FOSSIL FUEL METHODS TO GO PLACES. AS NON-SUSTAINABLE FUEL SOURCES, GEN DIMINISH AND CLIMATE CHANGE BECOMES WORSE. MORE STABLE METHODS FOR TRANSPORTATION WILL BE NEEDED BY NOT WORKING TO RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM. NOW WE ARE CRIPPLING OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM IN MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS MANY PEOPLE NEGATIVELY. ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE STUDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW A STUDENT WHO LIVES HALF A MILE FROM HER SCHOOL. HOWEVER, THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS MEANS THAT SHE CANNOT SAFELY WALK TO SCHOOL. A 10 MINUTE WALK BECOMES A 20 MINUTE BUS RIDE. IF SHE COULD WALK TO SCHOOL, IT WOULD NOT ONLY KEEP THE ENVIRONMENT CLEANER, BUT ALSO OPEN A BUS ROUTE FOR ANOTHER AREA THAT IS NOT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. MANY TIMES MY BUS AND OR ANOTHER BUS HAS HAD TO DRIVE A DOUBLE ROUTE TO GET EVERYBODY HOME. ANOTHER COHORT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE LACK OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE ARE THOSE WHO ONLY HAVE ONE CAR. AN ADULT I KNOW ONLY HAS ONE CAR BETWEEN HERSELF AND HER WORKING HUSBAND IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD, SHE HAS CROSSWALKS, BUT THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. SHE LIVES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF KROGER, BUT CANNOT GET THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CROSSWALKS FOR HER TO DO, SAFELY DO. SO THIS LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THOSE WITH LESSER INCOME. TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION HAS SOME FELLOW STUDENTS WHAT THEY THOUGHT COULD BE DONE. THE PEERS I ASKED CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF HIRING WORKERS, PAINT CROSSWALKS BY LANES, UM, AND BUILD SIDEWALKS. MONEY WOULD BE PUT A SET ASIDE FROM TAXES TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. ANOTHER PERSON I ASKED WAS MY MOTHER, WHO SUGGESTED THAT AS NEW NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BUILT, UM, AS A, AS NEW NEIGHBORHOODS ARE APPROVED TO BE BUILT, A REQUIREMENT COULD BE TO INSTALL INFRASTRUCTURE AS [00:05:01] SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS. I BELIEVE THAT A MIXTURE OF MY PEERS, SOLUTION AND MY MOTHER'S SOLUTION WILL WORK, SOLVE THE PROBLEM. FIXING THE PROBLEM WORKS NOW, BUT PUTTING IN RULES AS A SAFEGUARD FOR THE FUTURE WILL PREVENT A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE FROM OCCURRING. AGAIN, BY PREVENTING AND CHANGING THE LACK OF TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, LIFE AND COMMUNITY WILL IMPROVE AND THRIVE. THANK YOU MR. REESE. I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT MR. REESE IS FROM GRAFTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND HE IS THE VML REGION EIGHT WINNER FOR HIS FORUM. SO THANK YOU MR. REESE. OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, [2* Joint Presentation - Youth Awards. - 2023-2024 Outstanding Youth Awards Recipients - York County Youth Commission. ] WE HAVE SOME JOINT PRESENTATIONS, UM, COMING UP NEXT. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE SHUFFLING MOVE AROUND UP FRONT HERE. SO BEAR WITH US, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIRST, UH, START OFF WITH THE 20 23, 20 24 OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARDS, INTRODUCTIONS, AND THEN PRESENTATION. SO I'M GONNA COME AROUND IN FRONT. SCOTT, YOU GONNA MEET ME UP HERE? RIGHT? I'M GONNA DO THIS. MY NOTES TO FOLLOW ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION NOMINATION . BEFORE I DO THAT, WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T FAMILIAR, UM, EVERY YEAR THERE SELECTION COMMITTEE GETS TOGETHER AND LOOK AT APPLICANTS IN CATEGORIES FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. ENCOURAGE STUDENT SERVICE, UM, OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT. MM-HMM. FEEDBACK. YES. CAME HERE. LET'S SEE. SO PARISH COMMUNITY SERVICE, OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT AND COMPASSION. UM, AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. UH, MS. FAIRMAN, THE, UH, SCHOOL BOARD WAS ALSO A MEMBER AND TWO OF OUR YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO WE SIT THROUGH AND LOOK AT ALL THE APPLICANTS FOR EACH OF THE CATEGORIES TO SELECT THE, THE, THE FOUR RECIPIENTS. AND, AND I, I MENTIONED THIS OTHER LAST NIGHT AT THE, UH, ACTUAL WAR CEREMONY. IT IS INSPIRING AND ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGING FOR ME TO READ THROUGH ALL THOSE APPLICANTS. 'CAUSE WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE REASON THEY'RE NOMINATED. WE TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR GPA, THEIR COURSE LOAD, WHAT THEY DO INSIDE SCHOOL IN CLUBS AND SPORTS, SO FORTH, WHAT THEY DO OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL. SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE HOLDING OWN JOBS. SOME OF 'EM MAY EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE BUSINESS GOING AS WELL. SO THESE ARE REALLY MOTIVATED INDIVIDUALS, UM, AND SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO, A BRIGHT FUTURE WITH THEM COMING THROUGH LATER ON. SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT. EVERY YEAR WE DO IT. AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE THE FOUR WINNERS OF EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. AND WITH THAT, WHO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, ALL RIGHT. COME UP, INTRODUCE THE YOUTH COMMISSIONER A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S JOSH KOON, AND I'M A JUNIOR AT TAP HIGH SCHOOL AND A MEMBER OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU ALL A REPORT ON OUR ACTIVITIES SO FAR THIS YEAR. IN A BRIEF LOOK INTO WHAT'S TO COME, THE YOUTH COMMISSION'S MOTTO IS YCYC, YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR YOUTH COMMUNITY. THE GOALS OF THE YOUTH COMMISSION ARE TO PARTICIPATE AND OFFER COMMUNITY SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES, CONDUCT STUDENT SURVEYS, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMON GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY. THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1990 BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THROUGH A YOUTH COMMISSION PETITION. SINCE THEN, THE COUNTY HAS RECOGNIZED FOUR OUTSTANDING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT BEST EXEMPLIFY FOUR CORE CRITERIA. COMMUNITY SERVICE, COMPASSION, COURAGE, AND OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT. EACH OF THE FOUR STUDENTS SELECTED EACH YEAR RECEIVE A $1,000 SCHOLARSHIP TO USE IN THEIR FUTURE EDUCATION PLANS. IN MARCH, A SELECTION COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO SELECT FOUR OUTSTANDING YOUTHS FROM AROUND OUR COUNTY. THIS COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF MR. RONE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CHAIR, MS. FAIRMAN, A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND MY FELLOW YOUTH COMMISSIONERS, THOMAS SHRINER AND NICK NIKHIL SOSO. WITH THE HELP OF MY FELLOW YOUTH COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL NOW PRESENT THE WINNERS. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE. A FELLOW STUDENT AT TOP HIGH SCHOOL, EDDIE ZOO, HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE THE 2024 OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE, WHICH HE DEMONSTRATES THROUGH HIS COMMITMENT TO VOLUNTEERISM AND DEVOTING HIMSELF TO HELPING IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS. EDDIE EXEMPLIFIES A YORK COUNTY YOUTH DEDICATED TO DONATING HIS TIME AND ENERGY TO HELP HIS COMMUNITY HOWEVER HE CAN, WORKING WITH NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS TO VOLUNTEER AND SUPPORT MULTIPLE POPULATIONS OF YOUR COUNTY. HE ALSO PARTICIPATES IN TUTORING, FUNDRAISING, AND WORKING [00:10:01] ON VARIOUS HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS. EDDIE HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR A VARIETY OF ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE ADULT EDUCATION CENTER OF HAMPTON LANGLEY BAPTIST CHURCH, THE AUTISM SOCIETY OF TIDEWATER, VIRGINIA TAB HIGH SCHOOL KEY CLUB, YOUTH VOLUNTEER CORPS, HAMPTON ROADS, AGRICULTURE Y STREET, SPECIAL, SPECIAL OLYMPICS, VIRGINIA, AND THE POCOS LIBRARY. EDDIE TRIES TO JOIN IN SCHOOL EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES SUCH AS THE SCIENCE, NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY, MUFA, THETA ROBOTICS CLUB, PRINCIPAL ADVISORY BOARD, STUDENT AMBASSADORS, FUTURE BUSINESS LEADERS OF AMERICA, WHRO, STUDENT ADVISORY BOARD, AND THE NATIONAL BETA CLUB. EDDIE IS ALSO A NEW STUDENT, NEW TAB, HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS TEAM MEMBER, AND HAS APPLIED TO JOIN THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION NEXT YEAR. EDDIE, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE YOUTH COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE YOU AS A WORTHY RECIPIENT OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY COMMUNITY SERVICE. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE YOUTH COMMISSION'S BEST WISHES GO WITH YOU AS YOU CONTINUE TO USE YOUR TIME AND TALENTS TO SERVE OTHERS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MY FELLOW YOUTH COMMISSIONER, JACOB CORBETT, TO ANNOUNCE THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMPASSION. FIRST ALL GIVE ANY, RIGHT. WE'LL BRING ALL THE RECIPIENTS UP AFTER, AFTER ANNOUNCEMENTS TO GET, GET THE . THANK YOU, JOSHUA. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JACOB CORBETT, AND I'M A SOPHOMORE AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE WINNER OF THE OUT STORE STANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMPASSION. A FELLOW STUDENT AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL, OLIVER HALL, HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE THE 2024 OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COMPASSION, WHICH HE EXEMPLIFIES BY HIS COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO INDIVIDUALS WITHIN HIS TAEKWONDO DOJANG. OLIVER HAS EARNED THE RANK OF BLACK BELT AND USES HIS TALENTS TO HELP HIS OTHER, HIS FELLOW STUDENTS. OLIVER VOLUNTEERS HIS TIME TO TEACH AND MENTOR LOWER BELT STUDENTS, LEAD CLASSES, AND HELP WITH SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMS. OLIVER GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO HELP STUDENTS WITH A DHD OR OTHER DISABILITIES. HE ALSO HELPS STUDENTS WITH SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS OR BLENDED FAMILIES, AS WELL AS STUDENTS WHO NEED EXTRA HELP FOR ANY OTHER REASON. ACCORDING TO HIS NOMINATOR SONG, ME CO, AN INSTRUCTOR AT WORLD MARTIAL ARTS, OLIVER DEMONSTRATES PATIENCE, SELF-CONTROL, CONFIDENCE, AND COMPASSION IN EVERYTHING HE DOES. OLIVER, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND YOUTH COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE YOU AS A MOST WORTHY RECIPIENT OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD. FOR COMPASSION, WE EXTEND, WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE ADMIRATION AND APPRECIATION FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY LIFE DEDICATED TO HELPING OTHERS. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND YOUTH COMMISSIONS BEST WISHES GO WITH YOU AS YOU CONTINUE TO USE YOUR TIME AND TALENTS IN GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER MINA RISK TO PRESENT THE NEXT OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD. THANK YOU, JACOB. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MINA RISK, AND I'M A SENIOR AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COURAGE. A FELLOW SENIOR AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL, ION JOHNSON, HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE THE 2024 OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COURAGE, WHICH SHE CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE THROUGH HER PERSEVERANCE THROUGH LEARNING CHALLENGES. ACCORDING TO HER NOMINATOR, CHARNA, MOS GREGORY, A COUNSELOR AT BRUIN HIGH SCHOOL, ION WAS IMPACTED BY AN UNDIAGNOSED LEARNING DISABILITY, BUT DID NOT ALLOW THESE CHALLENGES TO AFFECT HER SCHOOLWORK. ION INSTEAD, PERSEVERED THROUGH ADVERSITY, EXPLORED VARI VARIOUS INTERVENTIONS AND, AND ACCOMMODATIONS AND BLOSSOMED ACADEMICALLY. ION TENACITY EXTENDS BEYOND HER ACADEMICS. SHE'S AN ACTIVE SCHOOL COMMUNITY MEMBER PARTICIPATING IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AS VARSITY CHEERLEADING, AND NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY MEMBER. FURTHERMORE, ION VOLUNTEERS TO MENTOR ELEMENTARY AGE STUDENTS THROUGH A CAREER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, WHOLE WHOLEHEARTEDLY INVESTING HER TIME TO SUPPORT AND GUIDE YOUNG STUDENTS. SHE FURTHER DEMONSTRATES HER UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. AS A MEMBER OF THE DELTA GEMS PROGRAM, ION CONTINUES TO PUSH BOUNDARIES, STRIVE FOR SUCCESS IN EVERYTHING SHE DOES, AND INSPIRE HER PEERS TO DO, TO DO THE SAME. ION. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS AND THE YOUTH COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE YOU AS THE MOST WORTHY RECIPIENT OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR COURAGE. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR YOUR EXEMP, FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY SPIRIT OF COURAGE, [00:15:01] THE PORT OF SUPERVISORS AND YOUTH COMMISSION'S BEST WISHES GO WITH YOU AS YOU CONTINUE TO USE YOUR BRAVERY TO MARCH THROUGH LIGHT. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MY FELLOW YOUTH COMMISSIONER ABIGAIL SMITH, TO PRESENT OUR FINAL OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD. THANK YOU, MINA. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ABIGAIL SMITH, AND I'M A SENIOR AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT. A FELLOW SENIOR AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL, ANNABELLE REED, HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE THAT 2024 OUTSIDE YOUTH AWARD FOR OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT AS SHE EPITOMIZES EXCELLENCE IN SUPERIOR PERFORMANCE IN A HOST OF ENDEAVORS. ANNABEL'S NOTEWORTHY ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENTS AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL INCLUDE EARNING STRAIGHT A'S WITH A 4.55 GPA THROUGHOUT HER HIGH SCHOOL CAREER. SHE GAINED A MISSION INTO THREE DIFFERENT HONOR SOCIETIES AND RECEIVE THE YORK HIGH SCHOOL HIGHEST HONORS EACH YEAR. ANNABELL DEMONSTRATES HER NATURAL CURIOSITY AND ENTHUSIASM FOR LEARNING THROUGH HER VARIOUS EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. SHE, SHE JOINED THE GIRLS WHO COULD CODE CLUB, THE PHOTOGRAPHY CLUB, THE DRAMA CLUB, AND THE NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY. ANNABEL'S DETERMINATION AND GENEROSITY HAVE CARRIED OVER INTO HER PERSONAL LIFE. SHE PARTICIPATED ON THE JUNIOR OLYMPIC ARCHERY DEVELOPMENT TEAM, AND THE FURTHER USED HER TALENTS TO MENTOR YOUNG RISK CURVE ARCHERS. ANNABEL HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED OVER 150 HOURS OF HER TIME AT THE PENINSULA FOOD BANK PENINSULA, SPCA, AND TUTORING OTHER YORK HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. SHE HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED HER TIME AT A VARIETY OF CHURCH AND SCHOOL EVENTS. ANNABEL ON HALF OF THE BOARD BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND YOUTH COMMISSION. I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE YOU AS THE MOST WORTHY RECIPIENT OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD FOR OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT. WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE ADMIRATION AND APPRECIATION FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE AS A ROLE MODEL TO THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND THE YOUTH COMMISSION'S BEST WISHES GO WITH YOU AS YOU CONTINUE TO APPLY YOUR MANY TALENTS AND ABILITIES TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY INTO THE WORLD THROUGH ALL OF YOUR CONTINUED EDUCATIONAL AND CAREER PURSUITS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MR. THE BOARD CHAIR TO COME DOWN AND PRESENT THE RECIPIENTS OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARDS WITH THEIR SIGNED RESOLUTIONS. WILL ALL THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD RECIPIENTS PLEASE COME UP AND RECEIVE THE RESOLUTIONS FROM MR. RODAN? CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD TO SEE YOU THE OTHER NIGHT. MOM. READY? READY FOR PICTURES? ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, EDDIE. THANK YOU. YEP. EDDIE, I THINK YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO, UH, LOOKING, GONNA GO TO STANFORD, CORRECT? AS AN ENGINEER. SO WISH SOME LUCK. I'LL GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, YOUR RESOLUTION. AND, AND I, I'LL, I'LL READ THESE HERE, HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT MOM, GONNA TAKE A PICTURE. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, MR. ANNABELL. YOUR RESOLUTION HERE. SO, WHAT, UH, WHAT PROGRAM OR LANGUAGES HAVE YOU BEEN CODE IN SINCE YOU'RE A GIRL WHO LIKES TO CODE ? UH, C PLUS PLUS A LITTLE BIT OF PYTHON AND JAVA. OH, GOOD FOR YOU ALL GUYS. , CONGRATULATIONS. OLIVER, GOOD TO MEET YOU. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD. SORRY, MISS YOU OTHER NIGHT, BUT HERE IS YOURS AND TAKE YOUR TOP. HERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. EVERYONE WANTS TO YEAH. PEEL, PEEL THAT. TAKE THE UP AND MAYBE OPEN UP THE RE. YEP. ALRIGHT. WHO, WHO'S GOT THE, WHO'S GOT ALL, WE'LL DO THE OFFICIAL PICTURE RIGHT HERE. FIRST. I THEM RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. SMILE. 1, 2, 3. GOOD JOB. AND [00:20:01] LET THE PARENTS UP. OH, YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. OKAY. PARENTS, Y'ALL START COME UP AND YOU WANNA TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PARENTS? YES. OKAY. COME ON. PARENTS. COME ON UP ONE. ALRIGHT, THANKS. ALRIGHT, GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN TO ALL OF OUR OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARD RECIPIENTS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JOSHUA BACK TO THE PODIUM TO RESUME THE PRESENTATION. SINCE THE CONCLUSION OF THE FIRST SEMESTER, YCYC HAS BEEN MEETING DILIGENTLY EVERY MONTH TO PREPARE FOR IMPORTANT EVENTS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SEMESTER. DURING THESE MEETINGS, WE HAVE BEGIN. WE HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING SIGNIFICANT UPCOMING EVENTS, INCLUDING THE PIRATE MARKET DAY VOLUNTEERING EVENT, AND A MOVIE NIGHT IN MAY FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE MOST NOTABLE UNDERTAKING THIS SEMESTER HAS BEEN THE PLANNING OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS AT EACH DESIGNATED YC YCSD SCHOOL. BY CONDUCTING A POLL AND IDENTIFYING THE MOST FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FROM YCSD STUDENTS. YCYC HAS COMPILED A LIST OF COUNTY SCHOOL AND DISTRICT RELATED INQUIRIES TO POSE TO EACH STUDENT, TO EACH SCHOOL'S REPRESENTATIVE IN FRONT OF A LIVE AUDIENCE TO OUR SCHOOLS. THE LATEST SCHEDULED MEETING TO PLACE AT THE NINE 11 CALL CENTER. DURING THIS MEETING, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE POLICE 9 1 1 CENTER TO GAIN INSIGHT INTO HOW THE YCS D'S 9 1 1 DEPARTMENT OPERATES TO ENHANCE SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE YOUTH COMMISSION IS TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN YOUTH CONCERNS IN YCSD AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. TO ACHIEVE THIS. YCYC CONDUCTS AN ANNUAL POLL AMONG HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN YCSD TO IDENTIFY THEIR MOST PRESSING CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS. THESE QUESTIONS ARE THEN PRESENTED TO EACH SCHOOL'S DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE, SCHOOL BOARD, AND COUNTY SUPERVISOR. THIS INITIATIVE NOT ONLY GIVES STUDENTS THE CHANCE TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES, BUT ALSO FOSTERS INTERACTION AND CONNECTION WITH THEM. EACH YCSD HIGH SCHOOL HOSTS A TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE YCYC MEMBERS LEAD THE DISCUSSION BY POSING QUESTIONS AND INTRODUCING THE REPRESENTATIVES. DURING THESE MEETINGS, ONE SUPERVISOR FROM THE BOARD AND ONE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ANSWERED 10 QUESTIONS EACH REGARDING YOUTH CONCERNS RELATED TO THE COUNTY AND SCHOOLS RESPECTIVELY. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE YOUTH COMMISSION, THE YOUTH COMMISSION STAFF LIAISON SCOTT HENDRICKS TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU, JOSHUA. MY NAME IS SCOTT HENDRICKS. I'M A RECREATION SUPERVISOR, ONE WITH YORK COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION, AND ONE OF MY GREAT PRIVILEGES I HAVE WORKING FOR YORK COUNTY PARKS AND REC IS BEING THE STAFF LIAISON TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION. THIS IS MY SECOND YEAR DOING IT. UM, AND THESE EXTRAORDINARY STUDENTS STUDY HARD, PARTICIPATE IN A WIDE VARIETY OF EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. UM, I ACTUALLY JUST TONIGHT LEARNED ABOUT SOME OTHER ONES THAT PEOPLE DO THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. UM, THEY, AND SOME EVEN HAVE PART-TIME JOBS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY FIND TIME TO BREATHE HALF THE TIME, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF STUFF THEY DO IS CRAZY AND I CAN'T IMAGINE DOING IT MYSELF. SO I'M VERY PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. UM, HOWEVER, THEY STILL CHOOSE TO FURTHER DONATE THEIR TIME, WHATEVER TIME THEY HAVE LEFT, TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION. UM, IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE YOUR COUNTY'S 23 20 23 TO 2024 YOUTH COMMISSION. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. RONE CHAIRMAN AND BOARD LIAISON TO THIS YOUTH COMMISSION TO COME DOWN AND COMMEND THE YCYC COMMISSIONERS. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP FRONT AND RECEIVE YOUR ASSIGNED RESOLUTION FROM MR. RONE. FROM DISTRICT ONE, WE HAVE MINA RISK. WE HAVE OUR CHAIRMAN THIS YEAR, THOMAS SHRINER AND ALA XO FROM DISTRICT TWO. WE HAVE HANNAH HONG ALLISON CANDEL, WHO UNFORTUNATELY CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT. AND HIL FROM DISTRICT THREE. WE HAVE JACOB CORBETT, KATE HOGAN, AND LYN SMITH, WHO AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY THOSE TWO CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT. AND FROM DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAVE MOANA, JACKSON VORA, AND ABBY SMITH. [00:25:03] AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST FROM DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAVE NEY JOSHUA, NAM KUN, AND JANIE CHENEY, WHO WAS OUR VICE CHAIR THIS YEAR. ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT. WE'LL GET A GROUP PICTURE. COME ON, PLEASE. MINA. YOU'RE FINE. HOLD THE RIGHT SIDE UP. THAT'S RIGHT. ONE. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. YOU GUYS MAY TAKE YOUR SEATS AGAIN. SO ROUND APPLAUSE FOR YOU. SO I'LL ECHO WHAT SCOTT SAID. THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN A HARDWORKING GROUP. THEY'VE BEEN MEETING SINCE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WE DID ORIENTATION IN AUGUST. YEP. AND THEN REGULAR MEETINGS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. YEAH. SO EVERY EVERY MONTH THEY'VE BEEN GETTING TOGETHER. UM, THEY ARE THE LEADERSHIP OF YORK COUNTY YOUTH, UH, EACH OF THE SCHOOLS REPRESENTED, AND THEY REPRESENT ALL OF THEIR FELLOW STUDENTS. UM, AND, UM, THIS, THEY, WE'VE HAD OUR LAST MEETING, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT COMING UP. WE DO THIS FRIDAY. AND JOSHUA GONNA SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT IN A BIT. OKAY. YEAH. BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH KIND OF THEIR LAST TIME TO GET TOGETHER AS A, AS A FORMAL BODY. SO I JUST WANNA SAY I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH Y'ALL AGAIN. UM, I'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST 2, 3, 4 YEARS AT THIS POINT. UH, HOPE TO GET TO CONTINUE DOING IT. I REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH THEM. AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE, HELPING OUT YOUR, YOUR, UH, FELLOW STUDENTS. AND, UM, AND TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE SELECTING THE NEXT CLASS COMING IN TOO. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU. HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A, I KNOW SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE GRADUATING SOON, SO ENJOY YOUR GRADUATION OFF TO WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING. AND THEN SOME OF Y'ALL, YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO MORE YEARS LEFT, AND THEN, UM, YOU'LL BE DOING IT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN TO THE 23 20 23 20 24 YOUTH COMMISSION. YOU GUYS MADE IT A REALLY SPECIAL YEAR. THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP, WORKING HARD, AND WE GOT SOME REALLY FUN THINGS DONE THIS YEAR. UM, BUT MY TIME FOR TALKING IS DONE. I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO JOSHUA TO RESUME THE REST OF OUR YOUTH COMMISSION PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. DURING THE PREVIOUS SEMESTER, MULTIPLE YOUTH COMMISSIONERS PARTICIPATED AS VOLUNTEERS AS THE PIRATE MARKET DAY HELD AT YORKTOWN BEACH. LOOKING AHEAD TO THE UPCOMING MONTHS, WE ARE EAGER TO CONTINUE ORGANIZING OUR NEXT SERVICE PROJECT, WHICH WILL FOCUS ON BRINGING TOGETHER THE YOUTH OF YCSD FOR MOVIE NIGHT. IN MAY, THIS MOVIE NIGHT WILL BE HELD ON FRIDAY, MAY 24TH AT THE MC REYNOLDS ATHLETIC COMPLEX. THE MOVIE WILL START AT APPROXIMATELY 8:30 PM. FOR MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE U, THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE@WW.YCYC.INFO, OR CALL THE PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE AT 8 9 0 3 5 0 0. THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION TODAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. UH, I ECHO, UH, MS. NOEL'S COMMENTS. I I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE, UH, WORK OF THIS GROUP. I THOUGHT THE TOWN HALL IN PARTICULAR WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD EXERCISE AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF VERY GOOD QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. SO I THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER, MR. DREWRY. YEAH. I, I ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS. UH, GREAT JOB. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LOVE SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AND REALLY HAVE A PASSION FOR EDUCATION AND KNOWLEDGE AND HELPING OTHERS TO BE BETTER. AND VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME WHEN YOU COULD BE OUT DOING A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS. AND YOU, YOU GET YOUR SCHEDULE BUSY ENOUGH THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO SPEND ON THIS TOO MUCH, UH, THESE DAYS. UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PROBLEMS FOR OUR KIDS TODAY. SO, MY HAT'S OFF TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR A GREAT JOB. UH, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SOME GREAT THINGS FROM ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING OFF TO COLLEGE. AND, UH, GO CONQUER THE WORLD FOR US. AND WE'RE PROUD OF YOU HERE AT YORK COUNTY. THANK YOU, MR. SHE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS LIKE TO, UH, REMIND PEOPLE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE A CITIZEN GOVERNMENT. THEY, UM, ESSENTIALLY, UM, FACT, THE ONLY THAT'S FULL TIME UP HERE IS, UH, [00:30:01] OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THEN OF COURSE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY. I FORGOT, I ALWAYS FORGET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. UM, BUT, UH, PART OF THE CITIZEN GOVERNMENT IS THE INVOLVEMENT OF CITIZENS. AND, UM, NOT MANY, UH, AS ADULTS THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT MAKING A LIVING TRYING TO PUT BEANS ON THE TABLE, TAKE CARE OF, THEY RAISE THEIR KIDS, UH, AND WORRY ABOUT THE GASOLINE PRICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO, WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO STEP UP AND AT AN EARLY AGE TO REPRESENT OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE WE REPRESENT 72,000 PEOPLE OF YOUR COUNTY. YOU REPRESENT THE 13,000 PLUS CHILDREN, OUR CHILDREN, YOUNG ADULTS OF, UH, YOUR COUNTY. AND WE NEED A VOICE. WE NEED A, WE'VE, WE'VE UNDERSTOOD THIS FOR, FOR DECADES, THAT THE YOUTH OF OUR COUNTY NEED A VOICE. AND, UH, YOU'VE DONE A SUPERB JOB OF BEING THE VOICE OF THE 13,000 STUDENTS UP AND DOWN THIS COUNTY. AND, UM, AND TAKE THIS LESSON THAT YOU'VE LEARNED, OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'VE LEARNED, UH, THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED, AND THEN TAKE THIS INTO THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. AND, UH, DON'T BE AFRAID TO STEP UP AND BE INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT. UH, YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE A CITIZEN, YOU SHOULD BE INVOLVED. AND, UH, WE ARE SO GRATEFULLY, UH, GRATEFUL FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR HARD WORK AND THE WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON COMPLETING A WONDERFUL YEAR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE WISH YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. LIKE I MENTIONED, I, I REALLY ENJOYED THIS, THIS TIME WITH YOU GUYS. GUYS, AGAIN, SORRY TO SEE THAT WE GOT, WE GOT A DIS, UH, DISBAND AND, AND PICK BACK UP WITH A NEW GROUP. BUT I WANNA TOUCH UPON A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE TOWN HALL. UM, JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE OUT HERE, KNOW, KNOW A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. SO THE YOUTH COMMISSION MEET WITH THEIR STUDENTS IN THEIR SCHOOLS TO FIND OUT WHAT IS ON THEIR MIND, QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE, BOTH FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SCHOOL AND, AND COUNTY. AND THEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER IN EACH OF THE SCHOOL'S AUDITORIUM WHERE WE FEEL AND ANSWERS ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY RESPOND BACK TO THE THINGS THAT THE, THE, THE STUDENTS HAVE ON THEIR MINDS. AND THAT'S A REALLY BIG PART OF WHAT, WHAT THEY DO ALL YEAR LONG. 'CAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER. THEY GOTTA COORDINATE WITH THEIR PRINCIPALS AND, AND THE SCHOOL STAFF MEET WITH THEIR FELLOW STUDENTS TO MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN. COMPILE THAT, GET THAT TO US SO WE CAN GET READY FOR IT. SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. SO I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT MOVIE NIGHTS, WHICH IS GREAT, GOOD FUN TIME, BUT THERE'S SERIOUS WORK THERE AS WELL AND, AND A GREAT SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY. AND YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE MOVIE. I DID. YEAH, YOU DID. OH, YOU DID WHAT DID WHAT IS IT MAY 24TH? NO, NO. WHAT IS THE MOVIE? OH, UM, IT'S HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL TWO. OKAY. I THOUGHT I MIGHT BE SMOKING THE BANDIT, BUT, OKAY, THAT'S FINE. . I KNOW. ALL RIGHT. SO Y'ALL ENJOY THANK, THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE [3* Youth Leadership Academy. Receive presentation from Brendan Thaler, Coordinator for the Youth Leadership Academy, and members of the Academy.] HAVE OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS VERY MUCH RELATED, IS THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY. AND WE'RE GONNA CALL ON MR. UH, BRENDAN THALER, UH, TO, TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND HE'S THE COORDINATOR OF THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND WILL BE GIVING US A PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS BRENDAN THALER. I'M HERE REPRESENTING ALTERNATIVES INC. A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT PROMOTES THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLBEING OF YOUNG PEOPLE. I'M THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND THE FACILITATOR OF THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY HELD AT THE YORKTOWN BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THIS YEAR. OUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT COMES FROM THE YORK COUNTY VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION AND THE LANGLEY FOR FAMILIES FOUNDATION, TO WHICH WE GIVE OUR THANKS. EVERY YEAR. THE STUDENTS IN THE ACADEMY LOOK FORWARD TO THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AS A WAY TO EXERCISE THEIR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, AND, UM, SHOULD TELL THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. ON BEHALF OF THE STUDENTS IN ALTERNATIVE ZINC, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING US. WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. AND NOW I'LL TURN AROUND TO THE STUDENTS SO THEY CAN SHARE WHAT WE'VE DONE. HI, MY NAME IS ELA XL. I'M A GRADUATE OF THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, AND I'M NOW SERVING AS A VOLUNTEER. THE REASON I I RETURNED BACK TO THE PROGRAM AS A VOLUNTEER IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO GIVE BACK TO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT MADE ME WHO I AM TODAY. YLA IS A COMMUNITY BASED LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT MEETS ONCE A WEEK FOR 12 WEEKS. OUR SESSIONS ARE HELD AT THE YORKTOWN BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THE STUDENTS OF THE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY HAVE BEEN MEETING TOGETHER [00:35:01] SINCE MARCH, AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED TODAY. MY NAME IS EVAN, AND I AM AN EIGHTH GRADE AND A YLA MEMBER. IN YLA, WE DEFINE LEADERSHIP AS THE POWER TO INFLUENCE THE THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS OF OTHERS THROUGH THE USE OF THE QUALITIES, SKILLS, AND KNOWLEDGE ONE POSSESSES. WHAT LEADERSHIP MEANS TO ME IS TO GUIDE PEOPLE LIKE A LIGHTHOUSE AND TO SHOW THEM THE RIGHT PATH, HELPING PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE DOWN, AND BEING SOMEONE TO LEAN ON WHAT OTHERS ARE IN NEED. OUR NAMES ARE PAT BAKER AND JACE CRY. WE ARE THE SEVENTH GRADE AND YA MEMBERS. AS A LEADER, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND OUR STRENGTHS, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE AREAS WE, WE NEED TO GROW. AND, OOH, I VOICE SCRAP MY BAD GROWING. IN ORDER TO KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO GROW, YOU HAVE TO PICTURE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO BECOME. WE CALL THIS A VISION. MY VISION FOR MY BEST SELF IS TO BE REPAIRING, ENCOURAGING, AND INFLUENCING LEADER. ALL RIGHT. UM, OUR NAMES ARE JOSIAH AND JOSIAH. WE ARE IN THE SEVENTH GRADE. AND YOA MEMBERS, A TRUE LEADER IS NOT ONLY CONSIDERED WITH THEIR OWN GROWTH, BUT WITH THE GROWTH OF OTHERS. IT'S SUPPORTED THAT LEADERS UNDERSTAND SERVICE. WE DEFINE SERVICE AS THE ACT OF HELPING OTHERS WITHOUT THOUGHT OF PAY, REWARD, OR REPAYMENT. I THINK SERVICE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED OUR HELP IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE THINK WE COULD BE PART OF GIVING THEM WHAT THEY NEED. MY NAME IS KAITLYN. I'M IN THE EIGHTH GRADE AND A WILDLIGHT MEMBER. AS A GROUP, WE BRAINSTORM DIFFERENT PROBLEMS WE NOTICED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DECIDED WHICH ONES WE WERE MOST PASSIONATE ABOUT. WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO CREATE MORE THIRD SPACE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. OUR FIRST SPACE IS OUR HOMES, OUR SECOND SPACE IS SCHOOL. AND OUR THIRD SPACE IS WHERE WE SPEND TIME WITH FRIENDS OUTSIDE OF THESE PLACES. IT HAS BEEN HARD TO FIND SAFE AND AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE TYPES OF SPACES AND WANT TO BE A PART OF CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE STILL WORKING TO PLAN THIS PROJECT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL LIBRARY IN YORK COUNTY TO NOT ONLY HOST AN EVENT WITH US, BUT TO BE A START FOR MORE TEEN FRIENDLY EVENTS THROUGH THE LIBRARY. THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT STUDENTS AND THE LIBRARY TOGETHER. OUR NAMES ARE MAYA MCKENZIE. WE ARE GRADUATES OF THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND RETURN TO THE PROGRAM FOR A SECOND YEAR. THE REASON WHY I RETURNED TO WILEY IS BECAUSE I OFFERED A LOT OF GREAT LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. I ALSO RETURNED BECAUSE I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT MYSELF. THE REASON WHY I RETURN TO YLA IS BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS ME TO ACHIEVE, FRIENDS, TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY, AND TO BECOME THE LEADER. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD I WAS MEANT TO BE LAST YEAR. I LET OTHERS' EMOTIONS INFECT ME AND TAKE CONTROL OF MY ACTIONS. SINCE YLA, I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO EMBRACE THOSE QUALITIES WITHOUT LETTING MYSELF BE CONSUMED BY THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US THIS EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING LONGTIME SUPPORTERS OF THIS PROGRAM. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? START HERE. OKAY. WELL, AGAIN, THANKS. GREAT TO SEE. SAME AS WE SAID EARLIER, ALL THESE YOUNG LEADERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF MINE. MY OLDEST DAUGHTER, PAIGE, WHEN SHE WAS 12, WAS PICKED F BY PEOPLE TO PEOPLE, UM, A LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATION, UH, NATIONAL ORGANIZATION. AND SHE TOOK A TRIP TO AUSTRALIA FOR ABOUT 10 DAYS. UH, YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT 10 DAYS KIND OF HARD LETTING MY 12-YEAR-OLD GO FOR THAT LONG. UH, AND SHE'D NEVER BEEN ACROSS THE SEAS. AND, UH, AND SO SHE GRADUATED FROM JOHNSON AND WALES UNIVERSITY, AND NOW SHE BOUGHT HER FIRST BUSINESS AT 23 YEARS OLD, AND NOW SHE OWNS KEL SPECIALTY MARKET OVER IN GLOUCESTER. AND IT ALL STARTS HERE. IF YOU WANT TO BE SOMEBODY, IT STARTS AT YOUR AGE. IF YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU AND ORGANIZATIONS, YOU DO IT FROM THIS LEVEL ON. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE CAN DO IT LATER IN LIFE, BUT, UH, WHEN I LOOK OUT AND SEE Y'ALL'S FACES, IT REMINDS ME OF MY DAUGHTER THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD THOSE QUALITIES AND, UH, SHE USED THEM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND HERSELF. [00:40:01] AND SO I JUST CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, SHOOT FOR THE STARS AND DREAM BIG DREAMS BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE. SO, CONGRATULATIONS MR. SHEPHERD. YEAH. ARE YOU SCARED? HUH? COME ON, BE HONEST. ARE YOU SCARED TO COME UP AND TALK? NO. SOME YES, SOME. OKAY. HEY, IT TOOK COURAGE. AND HE DOES. AND IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO SPEAKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU GOT THE LIGHTS AND WE'RE ALL UP HERE DRESSED UP AND READY TO DO, UH, GOVERNMENT BUSINESS, AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE INTIMIDATING. THE POINT IS THAT YOU'VE DONE IT. YOU GOT UP FRONT AND YOU SPOKE, AND EVERY TIME YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, I'LL NEVER FORGET, IT WAS LIKE, IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OR OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF A GROUP, DO SO. BECAUSE ALL IT DOES IS MAKE YOU A BETTER SPEAKER AND LETS YOUR POINT GET ACROSS. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE COURAGE, UH, TO COME UP AND, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT YOUR DREAMS ARE. IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. NO, WE'RE ALL SAYING THANK YOU TO YOU BECAUSE YOU REALLY IMPRESSED US. OH, MY MICROPHONE'S NOT ON. SHALL I REPEAT THAT? I WOULD SAY WE'RE ALL SAYING THANK YOU TO YOU BECAUSE YOU REALLY IMPRESSED US SO MUCH. YOU'RE SO YOUNG, AND YET YOU'RE SERVING OTHER PEOPLE. AND THE MORE YOU CAN SERVE OTHERS, THE BETTER THIS LIFE WILL BE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. SO GO FORTH, STUDY HARD, ENJOY YOUR LIFE, AND DON'T FORGET TO THINK OF OTHERS BEFORE YOU THINK OF YOURSELF. THANK YOU, MR. ALRO. I ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MR. SHEPHERD SAID. UM, AT AN EARLY AGE, NOBODY IS COMFORTABLE GETTING UP IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE AND TALKING. AND YET TO BE A GOOD LEADER, TO BE EFFECTIVE IN LIFE, YOU NEED TO GET PAST THAT FIRST HURDLE AND LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND HOW TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AND HOW TO GIVE THEM ENCOURAGEMENT AND, AND DRIVE AND LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE. UM, I, MY HATS OFF TO THIS GROUP. I THINK YOU'RE A PHENOMENAL YOUNG, UH, EXAMPLE OF OUR, UH, UPCOMING LEADERSHIP. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, AS, AS SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY SAID, CONTINUE TO, UH, REACH OUT, DO CIVIC DUTY, UH, ENCOURAGE OTHERS AROUND YOU TO DO THE SAME AND GET COMFORTABLE SPEAKING BECAUSE THAT IS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT'S GONNA DIFFERENTIATE YOU FROM ALL OF YOUR PEERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROY. IT IS TO OUR COMMUNITY'S CREDIT THAT WE INVEST IN ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, LIKE THE YORK, UM, YOUTH COMMISSION, YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION. HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT, I DUNNO WHY I STUMBLED WITH THAT . AND THERE ARE PLENTY OTHER EXAMPLES THAT TOO, THE WORLD NEEDS LEADERS AND IT NEEDS TRAINED LEADERS. EVEN NATURAL BORN LEADERS CAN GET, BECOME BETTER LEADERS BY TRAINING AND BY PRACTICING THE CRAFT AND HAVING ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS THAT WILL PROVIDE YOUTH THE ABILITY TO PRACTICE, TO GET TRAINING, TO GET DIRECTION, TO GET GUIDANCE FROM OTHER LEADERS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE IS INVALUABLE. AND THEY WILL MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE LEADERS WHEN THEY HAVE TO STEP UP LATER ON IN LIFE. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO ACROSS THE BOARD. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE, GETTING THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF LEADERS READY TO GO. WE WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF A KNEE FOR LEADERS, SO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO OUR [4* Sheriff’s Update. Receive presentation from Sheriff Ron Montgomery. ] NEXT PRESENTER, I CHAIR, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HIM. I DON'T SEE HIM. MR. RONAN. I, I WOULD IMAGINE WITH THE OVERWHELMING TURNOUT THE SHERIFF HAD HE BUSY DOWN THERE? I I THINK HE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BUSY. WE'D BE HAPPY TO RESCHEDULE FOR HIM. YEAH, THAT THAT, THAT'LL BE FINE. UM, YES SIR, NO EXCUSE. I DIDN'T WANNA MAKE NO EXCUSE. PROBABLY, UH, PROBABLY TOO MUCH CAKE. UM, SO ANYWAY, WE'LL [CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD] MOVE RIGHT INTO THE, UH, CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD. AND I HAVE ONE SPEAKER THAT HAS RE THAT HAS REGISTERED. SO PAM PEO. GOOD EVENING. I'M PAM PEO 1 0 3, KIMBERLY COURT. THE WILLIAMSBURG TOURISM COUNCIL HAS HIRED A NEW CEO EDWARD HARRIS. HE IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DISCOVER LANCASTER IN PENNSYLVANIA. MY FAMILY HAS VISITED LANCASTER IN THE NEARBY AMISH AREAS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. LAST SUMMER, MY HUSBAND AND I SPENT THREE DAYS THERE. TOO MANY PLACES ARE NOW CLOSED. AMISH MARKETS ARE ONLY OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK. THE OPPOR OPPORTUNIST BOUGHT AN AMISH FARM, TORE IT DOWN, AND BUILT AN OUTLET MALL. IT IS NOW EMPTY EXCEPT FOR ABOUT THREE BUSINESSES, AND IF NOT ALREADY, IT WAS CLOSING THIS SUMMER. THE AREA IS A TOURISM DISASTER. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHY MR. HARRIS WAS LOOKING FOR A NEW POSITION. APPARENTLY HIS TIME AT DISCOVER [00:45:01] LANCASTER WAS ONLY GOING IN ONE DIRECTION DOWN THE TUBES. PEOPLE COME TO THE AREA FOR THE UNIQUE AMISH EXPERIENCE. THOSE IN CHARGE OF TOURISM ANSWER IS TO BRING IN MORE PEOPLE WHO, EXCUSE ME, ANSWER TO BRINGING IN MORE PEOPLE WAS TO BRING IN OUTLET MALLS, CHAIN RESTAURANTS, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA. EVEN THE ROADSIDE AMISH FOOD STALLS HAS DISAPPEARED. THERE IS NO REASON TO GO TO LANCASTER ANYMORE. IT NO LONGER EXISTS AND NOW OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TO SOMEONE WHO RAN A FAILING BUSINESS. IF MR. HARRIS BRINGS THE SAME IDEAS TO THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE, WE WILL SEE TOURISM DECLINE. AT LEAST HE'S NOT IN CHARGE OF COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG, SO HE CANNOT DESTROY THE ICON OF HISTORY OR THE NATIONALLY KNOWN AWARD-WINNING BUSH GARDENS, I HAVE LITTLE FAITH IN THE TOURISM COUNCIL AND ITS ABILITY TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A REASON TO VISIT, INCLUDING AN EXTENDED STAY. AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR SUCH PROJECTS AS A GUARANTEED MONEY LOSING ENDEAVOR AT THE WILLIAMSBURG SPORTS COMPLEX. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A SPEAKER AND A PREVIOUS MEETING WHO WAS UNDER THE FALSE IMPRESSION THAT THIS FACILITY COULD BE USED BY COUNTY INDIVIDUALS AS THEY WOULD FOR A PRICE AT THE YMCA. THIS IS STRICTLY TO BE USED BY SPORTS TEAMS OR PERHAPS WILLIAMSBURG AREA SCHOOLS, NOT BY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS. ON ANOTHER NOTE, ON MARKET DAYS AND SPECIAL EVENTS, IF THERE IS INCLEMENT WEATHER, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE IS CLOSED TO PARKING AND THE VENDOR SET UP SHOP IN THIS SPACE, VISITORS MUST PARK ON THE UPPER LEVEL. THE ONLY WAY TO THE STREET LEVEL IS EITHER A STAIRWAY OR A STEEP HILL, NEITHER OF WHICH MAKES IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO HANDICAPPED. THE AREA UNDER THE BRIDGE HAS FOUR HANDICAPPED SLOTS, WHICH ARE DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH. AN ELEVATOR IN THE PARKING GARAGE NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED TO MAKE THIS AN A DA COMPLIANT FACILITY. MAKE THE YORKTOWN WATERFRONT A WELCOMING PLACE TO THOSE WHO CANNOT CLIMB STAIRS OR STEEP HILLS. PLEASE INSTALL THAT ELEVATOR. THANK YOU. UM, THAT IS THE ONLY PERSON I HAD SIGNED UP. HOWEVER, I WILL OFFER ANY, DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? UH, DURING THE, DURING THE COMMENT PERIOD? I HAVE SOMEONE, IF I CAN GET UP HERE WITHOUT KILLING MYSELF. SURE. OKAY. YOU, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES PLEASE. THANK YOU. SHARE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SHANNA HARVE FOUR 50 COUNTRY LANE. I'M HERE CONCERNING THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE HAPPENING BY LAMONT MYERS AND BUDDY SPENCER ON 1 4 8 FAULKNER ROAD. UM, I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE. I OWN A SMALL CARPENTRY BUSINESS WITH MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO RAISE A FAMILY HERE. UH, AND I WANTED TO COME IN HERE TODAY AND BE RATHER COMBATIVE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I WASN'T TREATED VERY WELL BY THE PERSON THAT I VOTED FOR ON THE BOARD. BUT CHECKING THE AGENDA AND SEEING HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT, I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART ON MY WAY HERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE PROJECT DID NOT BLINDSIDE US. IT'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE TO MY DEEPEST CHAGRIN, MY FAMILY IS DEEPLY INVOLVED. UH, SO WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT. UM, I GOT MARRIED SEPTEMBER OF 2022. MY MOTHER COULD NOT BE THERE, BE BECAUSE SHE WAS, UH, BUSY COMING VERY CLOSE TO DEATH AND DID SO AGAIN A COUPLE MORE TIMES OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. IT WAS A VERY, VERY HARD TIME FOR MY FAMILY AND I HAD TO STEP BACK TO TAKE CARE OF MY PARENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR FAMILY. AND UH, THE ONLY REASON MY PARENTS OWNED PROPERTY BACK THERE AT ALL IS BECAUSE MY UNCLE GAVE HIS LIFE IN VIETNAM. MY GRANDPARENTS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUY THAT LAND ANY OTHER WAY. HE CONTINUED TO GET PAID FOR NOT 40 YEARS, BUT THEY FOUND HIS PLANE 40 YEARS LATER. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY WERE ABLE TO BUY THAT LAND. UM, SORRY, A LITTLE BIT SCATTERED . WHAT MR. SPENCER IS, UH, PROPOSING TO DO REALLY DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. UH, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET SOME HELP, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE A FAMILY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING GOOD. I'VE TALKED TO THE PEOPLE ON FAULKNER ROAD, I'VE TALKED TO EVERYONE ON MY ROAD AND NOBODY WANTS IT. NOBODY WANTS IT. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY HELP FROM PRACTICALLY ANYONE. UH, THE STORM WATER IS GONNA BE A HUGE PROBLEM. WE ALREADY GET FLOODED REALLY, REALLY BAD. AND NOW HE'S GONNA GO IN THERE AND RI RIP DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH MORE TREES AND THAT WATER IS GONNA HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. IT'S GONNA COME TO OUR HOUSE. UH, HE IS WANTING PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE OTHER SIDE OF COUNTRY LANE, UH, BECAUSE HE WANTS THAT TO BE A PARK. AND THAT'LL BE INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS BECAUSE THE TRUCKS, DELIVERY TRUCKS AND SO FORTH FLY DOWN THAT ROAD. UM, AND I'LL JUST END WITH THIS. I HAVE 20 TO $30 WORTH [00:50:01] OF COURT DOCUMENTS THAT PROVE EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR COUNTRY LANE DATING BACK TO AT LEAST THE SEVENTIES. AND IF HE WANTS TO ACCESS OUR SIDE OF COUNTRY LANE, I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT HE HAS TO DO SO FROM 17, NOT FROM COUNTRY LANE, FROM 17, THERE'S A SMALL COUNTY ROAD JUST BEYOND THE HOLDING POND THAT WAS BUILT, UH, BY DOD RV AND THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE HIM ACCESS TO THAT SIDE OF COUNTRY LANE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS ANYBODY ELSE LATE TO SPEAK? I SPEAK SIR. MR. STURGILL, COME ON UP. SIX O'CLOCK AND I EVIDENTLY, I I, COME ON, COME ON UP MR. STURGILL. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY NOT, EXCUSE ME. I'LL START TALKING BEFORE I GET UP HERE. YEP. JUST GET, WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR, YOUR NAME? YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? AND YOU GET, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, YES SIR. MY NAME'S DELMAN STURGILL. I'M AT 3 0 7 COUNTRY LANE. UH, I'LL TRY NOT TO REPEAT ANYTHING THAT, UH, SHE SAID ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT I PAID TO HURRY UP AND I GOT GO OVER MY THREE MINUTES. I DID IT AT THE MEETING FOR THE PLANNERS MEETING, WHATEVER. ANYHOW. BUT I'D LIKE TO SAY WE, WE'VE BEEN PLAGUED WITH STORM WATER DOWN THERE BECAUSE THE COUNTY DUG A DITCH UNDER 17 AND, AND DIVERTED THE WATER OVER THERE. AND THAT'S CAUSED IT TO GET WORSE. AND OUR RAINS HAS GOT TO WHERE THEY MORE, MORE THAN THEY USED TO BE. IT'S MORE WATERFALL. SO IT'S GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE. AND THANKS TO Y'ALL OR WHOEVER WAS IN CHARGE OF DOING THAT, WE APPRECIATE IT. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. HOWEVER, THE COUNTRY ROAD THERE USED TO GO RIGHT THROUGH DODGE RV THERE, AND WE HAD A VERY HARD PROBLEM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED DOWN THERE COULDN'T EVEN GO GET TO WORK ON TIME BECAUSE THEY'D HAVE THE ROADBLOCK AND THEY'D BE INSIDE HAVING A MEETING AND, AND THEY'D JUST TELL US, WELL, YOU GOTTA WAIT TILL THE MEETING'S OVER. SORRY, THE PEOPLE THAT'S SITTING IN THE TRUCK WON'T EVEN MOVE THE DAMN TRUCK. EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE. SO ANYHOW, THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF TOO. BUT IT TOOK US A LONG TIME. AND I KNOW MRS. CASTLE'S HERE, AND I'M GONNA HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT YOU, MS. MR. CASTLE. I, YOU, MR. MR. STLE, MR. ST. ADDRESS THE BOARD PLEASE. ALL, I'M SORRY. I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU FOLKS. ANYHOW, SO AT THE DAY THEY WERE FINISHING UP THAT ON THE DITCHES AND WHATEVER, WE HAD A LITTLE DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE DITCHES AND ALL THAT. AND WE HAD ONE OF THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH WAS MR. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S WHERE, WHERE IT WENT TO THE STATE FOR THAT. WHAT WAS MR. MR. GREEN? MR. GREEN. GREEN. MR. GREEN. YES, SIR. ANYHOW, WE HAD A MEETING THERE AND WE WORKED IT OUT RIGHT THERE ON THE ROAD. AND MR. CASTLE WAS THERE, AND MATTER OF FACT, SHE BACKED HER CAR RIGHT IN THE DITCH RIGHT THERE. SO THE, FROM SHE, MY CONVERSATION WITH HER AT THE MEET AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE OTHER DAY, SHE TOLD ME THAT WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THAT ROAD THAT MR. DODGE STILL OWNS. THAT ROAD, OWNS THAT ROAD. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. DO OWNS THAT ROAD, BUT IT WAS BUILT FOR US SPECIFICALLY IN AGREEMENT THAT HE, WE SIGNED WITH HIM WHEN HE PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY THERE. SO I LIKE MS. CASTLE, SHE WAS DEFINITE POSITIVE THAT WE DID NOT EVEN HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY UP THROUGH THERE. AND THAT MR. DOD AND MR THE, THE DEVELOPER COULD DO ANY DEAD GOING THING. THEY WANTED TO ON COUNTRY RAIN ALL THE WAY DOWN THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT AT THE END OF WHERE THE, THAT PROPERTY ACROSS THE ROAD GOES TO, I GUESS THEY WANTED TO HAVE HORSE RACES ON SUNDAY, UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. WHATEVER THEY DO THAT POURING THE HERSHEY DO IT. THAT'S ONE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. SO I'D LIKE TO SOMEBODY TO TELL MS. CASTLE AND FIND OUT WHAT MADE HER, SHE WAS THERE THAT DAY. DID SHE BACK IN THE DITCH AND FORGET ABOUT BEING THERE THAT DAY OR WHAT HAPPENED? SHE IS SAYING THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THERE NOW. AND THAT'S WHAT PARTLY OF WHAT, UH, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. MR. AHEAD. AND WE HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY THERE. COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE PLEASE? SIR, COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP PLEASE? SO YOU HIT YOUR THREE MINUTES? YEAH, WELL, I'M, I'M THROUGH. THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I GOT TO SAY, BUT I, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, THE COUNTY FOR HELPING DO THAT AT THAT TIME FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT I THINK MS. CASTLE IS WRONG THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY GOING OUT THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD BY HER AND I'D LIKE TO BE AN APP. I'D LIKE FOR HER TO COME UP IF YOU ALL COULD TAKE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. STURGILL. APPRECIATE IT. UM, MR. BELLAMY, ONE, ONE COMMON THEME I WAS HEARING ABOUT CONCERN ABOUT STORM WATER AND RUNOFF. [00:55:01] UM, IS THAT SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RUNNING INTO ISSUES IN THAT AREA? I BELIEVE WHAT MR. STURGILL SAID IS THAT WE WERE OUT THERE AND DID SOME WORK AND HE'S OKAY WITH IT NOW. WELL, I, WHAT I ALSO HEARD ABOUT CONCERN ABOUT IF THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, WE, WE'D RUN INTO ISSUES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CERTAINLY. RIGHT. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE FINAL PLAN TO COME BACK TO LOOK AT THAT. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND MR. HILL LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME, UM, MAY NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE, UM, RIGHT OF WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE OWNERSHIP, THE UM, OF THAT ROAD. UM, MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE WE'RE SQUARED AWAY THERE. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. UM, IS ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON [COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS] TO, UM, WELL BACK TO MR. HILL FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS. I HAVE NO REPORT. OKAY, THANKS. DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. HILL? NOT THAT I OKAY. ALRIGHT. [COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS] AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS. MR. BELLAMY? MR. R, ANY INTEREST OF TIME? I HAVE, UH, NOTHING FOR YOU TONIGHT. AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. BELLAMY? UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY I NEED TO ASK HEATHER, BECAUSE HEATHER SENT ME INFORMATION ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT'S GONNA BE ON CHANNEL 46 AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TUNNEL AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW IT WORKS. HEATHER, COULD YOU HELP ME OUT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? NO, , I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND I APOLOGIZE. ALL I CAN SAY IS TUNE INTO CHANNEL 46 AND LOOK AT IT AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND TRY TO SEE THE VIDEO THAT VDOT DID WITH THE TUNNEL AND THE DRILLING OF THE TUNNEL. IT'S ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF YOUR TAX MONEY IS GOING. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA SEE IT, MRS. NOEL. IT WAS ON LAST NIGHT AT 10 30. OKAY. AMONGST OTHER TIMES. YES. BUT 10, 10 30 AT NIGHT IS AT LEAST ONE TIME THAT YOU COULD SEE IT. YES MA'AM. AND IT IS SHOWING IN THE MORNING, IT IS SHOWING THREE TIMES A DAY. AND THANKS TO MIKE LEONARD WITH VIDEO SERVICES TO UPLOADING THAT SO QUICKLY. GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, MR. ROY. I HAD, UH, ONE FOLLOW UP FOR MR. BELLAMY. UM, AS, AS HE'S AWARE, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A RECONCILIATION OF, UH, 24 VERSUS 23, UH, REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS. AND I'VE BEEN COMPARING DISTRICT BY DISTRICT AND THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ANOMALY WITH, UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DISTRICT BY NUMBER, IT'S DISTRICT BY, UM, MAGISTER, MAGISTERIAL, MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT RATHER THAN RIGHT. OKAY. BUT IN THE, UM, IN THE NELSON DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD NORMALLY BE DISTRICT THREE, WE'VE HAD A, UH, VERY LARGE INCREASE IN LAND VALUE. UH, A FIVEFOLD INCREASE FROM 600,000 TO 600 MILLION, SORRY, TO OVER 3.2 BILLION. AND WHILE THERE'S BEEN A, A LARGE, UH, TAX RELIEF APPLIED IN THAT AREA, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. IT WOULD BASICALLY SAY THE AVERAGE ASSESSMENT IN THE NELSON AREA HAS DROPPED BY 5%, WHERE EVERY OTHER DISTRICT HAS GONE UP BY, UH, 10 TO 12%. UM, I'D LIKE SOME FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IT'S JUST NOT MAKING SENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS A RESULT OF THE MOST RECENT SOFTWARE MM-HMM. OR, UH, SOME OTHER CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE. BUT I'D LIKE SOME FOLLOW UP BY THE COUNTY IN, IN, UH, IN ASSESSING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR TAX RECORDS ARE IN FACT CORRECT. A ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM MS, UM, MS. KAMAN, UH, ON THIS TOPIC THAT SHE SENT THIS AFTERNOON AT ABOUT QUARTER TO FIVE. YOU AND I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT YET, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY? OKAY. ALRIGHT, [MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD] WE'RE ROUGHLY ON TIME, SO LET'S GO TO MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD. AND WE'LL START DOWN HERE TO MY LEFT WITH MR. SHEPHERD. HEY, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, I'M, UH, THE BOARD REPRESENTATIVE, YOUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE, TO AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE HAMPTON ROADS TRANSP TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION. UM, AND, UH, THAT COMMISSION, ITS JOB WAS, IT WAS ESTABLISHED SO THE CITIZENS, UH, OF THE MUNICIPALITIES OF, UH, HAMPTON ROADS WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, FUND THE ROAD PROJECTS, THE MAJOR ROAD PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY, AND NOT IN THE COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE WHOLE HAMPTON ROADS REGION. THERE'S ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I REPRESENT THE COUNTY ON. IT'S CALLED THE HAMPTON ROADS PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION, UH, PLANNING. IT'S NOT THE PLANNING, IT'S THE TRANSPORTATION. TRANSPORTATION OR, UH, TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION, TPO, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION. EXCUSE ME. I GET IT. RIGHT. AND, UM, THAT ONE, THAT ORGANIZATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING [01:00:01] THE LARGE PROJECTS. MM-HMM. . SO YOU GOT ONE THAT IDENTIFIES THE PROJECTS, ESTABLISHES THE CRITERIA ABOUT HOW THEY'RE SELECTED, AND THEN THE 14 MUNICIPALITIES OF HAMPTON ROADS, THEY THEN APPROVE IT, THE LIST, AND THEN THEY HAND IT OVER TO THE HAMPTON ROADS ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION, WHICH THEN FUNDS THE PROJECTS AND IT GETS, UH, THE THING THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT IS FUEL TAX, THE SALES TAX THAT THE STATE BACK IN 2013 GAVE US, UM, THE ABILITY TO RAISE FOR OURSELVES JUST WITHIN HAMPTON ROADS OKAY. TO FUND THESE PROJECTS. AND ONCE WE IDENTIFIED THOSE, UM, THOSE FUNDS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? SO WE CAN THEN RAISE THE, WE GO OUT AND GET BONDS, WE'RE ABLE TO ISSUE BONDS, UH, AND THEN WE BUY THE PROJECTS. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE GIVEN YOU KIND OF LIKE A, UH, SOME NUMBERS TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE ON THE PENINSULA. WE'VE SEEN THE WIDENING OF 64 UP TO BASICALLY THE BOUNDARIES OF, UH, OF THE HAMPTON ROADS, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF, UH, OF LIGHTFOOT, ALL THE, AND NOW THE REST OF IT IS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TUNNEL AND IT'S GOING DOWN AROUND TO BOWERS HILL, WAY DOWN PAST CHESAPEAKE. OKAY. THEN EVENTUALLY THAT'S GONNA COME BACK UP 6 64. UM, AND THEN BACK THROUGH THE TUNNEL. AND THEN BACK HERE. OKAY. THIS WILL BE, IT'LL BE, UM, PROBABLY AROUND 2040 BEFORE WE GET AROUND THROUGH ALL THOSE PROJECTS. BUT JUST GIVE YOU A, TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, THE, UM, THE GROSS REVENUES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED SINCE INCEPTION, RIGHT NOW STAND AT 5.2 BILLION, ALMOST $5.3 BILLION JUST IN HAMPTON ROADS. THAT'S JUST US. OKAY. UM, AGAIN, IN THAT, UH, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT, WELL, WHEN I SIT IN THESE MEETINGS AND THEY, WE, WE TALK, UH, ASK A MILLION QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE BONDS ARE WORKING AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE A $500 MILLION BOND. YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND WE GOT EXPERTS THAT, THAT DEAL WITH THOSE BONDS AND, AND TALK TO US ABOUT HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK. AND THEN WHAT THEY WILL SIMPLY DO IS OVER A PERIOD, JUST A PERIOD, A SMALL PERIOD OF TIME, MAYBE SIX MONTHS OR SO, THEY WILL SHIFT MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR, UH, JUST HAVE, IN OUR SAVINGS RIGHT NOW. WE GOT ABOUT $2 BILLION. IT JUST SITS IN SAVINGS. AND THEN WE'LL JUST SHIFT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO MAYBE ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, ANOTHER TYPE OF BOND. AND THEN NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE JUST PICKED UP $90 MILLION. WELL, YOU PICK UP $90 MILLION 'CAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO WE ALL KNOW THE HAMPTON ROADS BRIDGE TUNNEL IS ABOUT $3.8 BILLION. AND THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAW IN THE PAPER, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS VIDEO, THEY JUST COMPLETED THE BORING HEADING SOUTH. AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TURNING THIS, UH, BIG, BIG ENGINE AROUND. AND THEY'RE GONNA TOUR, GONNA, UH, BORE BACK THAT ENGINE COSTS 90, WELL, NO, 70, ABOUT $72 MILLION. OKAY. UM, AND ITS LIFECYCLE WILL BE, WILL BE ESSENTIALLY SPENT, WELL, AT THE TIME IT COMPLETES THAT BORING AS IT COMES THROUGH. BUT THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING TECHNOLOGY TO WATCH THAT. AND I HAD THE, THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO GO RIGHT UP TO THE VERY FRONT OF IT AS IT WAS DIGGING THROUGH THE TUNNEL. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ALWAYS GET IS, HOW DEEP IS THAT THING GONNA GO? WELL, OUR CURRENT TUNNEL RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE USING, THAT'S THAT THEY FLOATED IN, DROPPED IT, AND PUT ROCKS ON TOP OF IT. IT'S DOWN ON ABOUT, UH, 53 FEET OR SO. IT'S NOT, NOT, UH, NOT FAR. THIS TUNNEL BORING IS BOTTOMING OUT AT 175 FEET. SO IT'S REALLY GETTING DOWN UNDERNEATH THERE AND IT'S DOING A GREAT JOB. SO, A QUESTION, AND I JUST GOT, I MEAN, JUST TONS OF NUMBERS, AND I'M NOT GONNA BORE YOU WITH ALL THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WONDER IN YOUR COUNTY, WHAT'S OUR LITTLE PIECE OF THIS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OVER IN CHESAPEAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR VIRGINIA BEACH, OVER THE TIME SINCE 2013 OR ABOUT 2014, WE STARTED COLLECTING MONEY. THE FOLKS OVER THERE, THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT OR COLLECTED FROM THEM ABOUT A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. OKAY? IN THE, IN THE SALES TAX AND THE, UH, GAS TAX, YOUR COUNTY OUTTA YORK COUNTY, THIS WOULD AMAZED ME, WE'RE ONLY 72,000 FOLKS IN HERE, BUT WE, THEY'VE COLLECTED $90 MILLION OFF SALES TAX JUST IN ITS 0.7%. IT'S NOT EVEN 1%. THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE, THE SALES TAX. SO THAT MONEY HAS ALLOWED US TO DO A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY SUPER THINGS. AND, UH, I, I REMEMBER A GENTLEMAN DURING OUR, OUR MEETING TOWN OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GONNA CALL THAT THE HEARING MEETING, UM, ON THE BUDGET. AND HE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON THE INTERSTATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT DOING ME ANY GOOD . WELL, I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN THE SENSE THAT YOU LIVE, YOU LIVE IN A LITTLE SMALL AREA, YOU NEVER GET OUT. YOU MIGHT THINK THAT, BUT IN TRUTH, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT [01:05:01] OUR PORTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS ALWAYS A BIG PROBLEM OR BIG ISSUE, 10% OF THE, UH, GROSS PRODUCT OF OUR STATE IS PRODUCED BY THE PORTS. IT'S BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION CAN GET IN AND OUT OF OUR AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE OF, OF THE MOST ACTIVE PORTS, UH, IN THE WORLD RIGHT OUT HERE. OKAY? IT'S ONE OF THE DEEPEST PORTS NOW BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THAT WORK. UH, THE OTHER PART IS THAT THAT PORT GENERATES, UH, AND THROUGH EMPLOYMENT ABOUT 250,000 JOBS, 250,000 JOBS. THERE'S QUITE A FEW JOBS THAT'S COMING OUTTA THERE. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS COMES BACK THROUGH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO PURCHASE GASOLINES CLOSED. UH, WE GOT OUR MILITARY HERE. ALL THESE THINGS GENERATE REVENUE, WHICH GIVES US, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THE HOSPITAL'S BEEN CLOSING DOWN IN THE RURAL AREAS, BUT WHILE WE END UP WITH THREE OR FOUR HOSPITALS HERE, SO WE'VE GOT, WE GOT BETTER MEDICAL CARE AND, AND OUR, YOU LIKE OUR, UH, FIREFIGHTERS, UM, THEY CAN GET TO YOU IN FIVE MINUTES AS OPPOSED TO 15 MINUTES OR 20 MINUTES OR EVEN AN HOUR. SO A LOT OF THIS, IT DEALS WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION, OUR, OUR LIVELIHOOD AND OUR COUNTY CENTERS AROUND TRANSPORTATION. AND I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU LIVE HERE, YOU BENEFIT, YOU BENEFIT THROUGH THE TAXES WE COLLECT IN TOURISM. IF WE ARE PLUGGED UP, GUESS WHAT? NO ONE COMES OVER HERE. OKAY? AND SO WE WE'RE UNPLUGGING IT NOW, AND THANKS TO THE STATE'S CONTRIBUTION THROUGH BARRY, UH, DELEGATE BARRY KNIGHT IS, UH, WHEN HE LED THAT, UH, EFFORT, WE'RE GONNA NOW GONNA WIDEN IT ALL THE WAY TO RICHMOND. OKAY? BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THAT PART IN THIS GROUP. SO THERE'S 14 JURISDICTIONS OKAY. COLLECTING A LOT OF MONEY. AND I THINK WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH IT, THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL BILL WOULD BE AROUND $8 BILLION, A LITTLE OVER 8 BILLION FOR ALL THE PROJECTS WE GOT ON THE BOOKS. AND, UM, AND, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PO I'VE TALKED TO BEFORE ABOUT THE, THERE'S A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO GETTING IN SIDE ROADS. 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, DOUG, YOU GOT AN ISSUE DOWN THERE WITH THE INDUSTRY COMING IN ON ONE SPOT, THESE SIDE ROADS, THERE'S A, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ON ONLY THIS, THAT IF WE, WE WERE TO ADD THREE TENTHS, THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT TO THAT SALES TAX, OKAY? THEN WHAT WE'D DO IS WE WOULD SOLVE ALL THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES UP AND DOWN TO ANYTHING THAT CONNECTS 2 64, ANYTHING, OKAY? VICTORY BOULEVARD, UM, COMMANDER SHEPHERD BOULEVARD, ALL THE THINGS DOWN IN VIRGINIA BEACH, ALL THE THINGS UP HERE TO ALL THE WAY UP ANY OF OUR DISTRICT. OKAY? SO THERE'S SOLUTIONS DOWN THERE. IT'S THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE WILL TO BE ABLE TO, TO UNDERSTAND IT AND, UH, AND, UH, STEP UP AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD. MR. DREWRY. YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, ONE THAT, UH, GOT AN EMAIL FROM DR. CAROL OVER AT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE'RE FASTLY, UM, GETTING READY TO WRAP UP SEAFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT. SO I KNOW THAT, UH, I KNOW MY CONSTITUENTS WILL BE EXTREMELY HAPPY TO, TO HEAR THAT. UH, THEY GOT THE ROAD PAVED NOW. I THINK THEY STILL HAVE A FEW DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, BUT I THINK THE PROJECT IS ALMOST WRAPPED UP, SO WE'RE THRILLED AND SEAFORD ABOUT THAT. SO MY PHONE WILL STOP RINGING, I HOPE, AND MY EMAIL WILL SLOW DOWN, I HOPE. BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UM, THE OTHER THING, UH, JUST GOT WORD THIS WEEK ABOUT A, THE RIVER WALK TOWNS, UM, PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC DOWN ON GLEE AND, UH, AND 2 38, UH, THEY HAVE APPROVED A FOUR-WAY STOP THERE. AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING TOWARDS GETTING THAT PROCESS DONE. AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA REALLY BE A HUGE, HUGE HELP, UH, FOR THAT INTER INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION DOWN THERE. SO I'M HAPPY THAT, UH, UM, THAT, UH, ROSSI CARROLL HELPED US GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. AND THEN THE LAST THING, UH, FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T GET OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TODAY FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING AND THE GRAND TOUR, UH, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN THERE. UH, THE BUILDING IS PHENOMENAL. UH, I WAS VERY, VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF THE WORK THERE, AND IT'S A BIG BUILDING. I KNOW IT COSTS US A LOT OF MONEY, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT'LL LAST US FOR THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX DECADES, UM, OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UH, AND I THINK I, THE THEME I HEARD TODAY WAS THIS IS A, YOUR COMMUNITY BUILDING, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO DOING MEETINGS AND STUFF IN THERE. UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CALL THEM AND GET ON THE SCHEDULE FOR HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO TOUR IT, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO THAT. IT'S A STATE OF THE ART AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SHERIFF MONTGOMERY IS THRILLED TO DEATH. AND, UH, I WAS JUST OVERLY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, THE QUALITY AND THE CONSTRUCTION. AND OF COURSE I'M A CONSTRUCTION GUY, BUT, UM, [01:10:01] I JUST THINK THAT'S A GRAND, GRAND, UH, ADDITION TO YORK COUNTY, UH, FOR OUR, OUR, UM, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND OUR DEPUTIES. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE BY THERE, YOU SHOULD, UH, AT LEAST GO BY THERE AND TRY TO GET A TOUR. IT'S JUST A PHENOMENAL FACILITY. ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MR. JURY. MR. ROY. ONE, UH, ONE SMALL POINT. UM, YOU'VE SEEN ME UP HERE SEVERAL TIMES, UH, COMPLAINING ABOUT SPRINGFIELD ROAD AND TRANQUILITY PROJECT. OH, YES. HAVE, UM, AND NO, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. I WANT TO, I WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO MR. HENDERSON. HE MET WITH MARK AND I LAST WEEK, A VERY, VERY GOOD MEETING COMPLETELY, UM, TO THE, TO THE POINT OF WANTING TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE, WITH THE TRUCKS ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD WITH THE CITIZENS. HE'S, UH, HE'S REACHING OUT, HE'S SENDING NEWSLETTERS OUT. HE'S DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY AND IMPROVE THAT OVERALL RELATIONSHIP. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AND I COMPLIMENT HIM ON THE WORK. GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE SAID ENOUGH ALREADY. . OKAY. UH, I'LL JUST WRAP UP WITH, UM, CIRCLING BACK TO WHAT MR. DRURY SAID ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GRAND OPENING. UM, AND THE THING I WANNA TOUCH UPON WAS THE PUBLIC TURNOUT WAS FANTASTIC. WE HAD A HUGE TURNOUT THERE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS GREAT BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY BUILDING IN AN OFFICE. AND LIKE MISS JURY SAID, GO THERE, CHECK IT OUT, SIGN UP FOR, GET SCHEDULED FOR A TOUR. IF YOU'RE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BRING SOME OF YOUR, YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MEMBERS THERE TO DO IT AS WELL. UM, FANTASTIC SPOT AND IT'LL SERVE US WELL FOR A LONG TIME. AND THE LAST THING I WANNA SHARE WAS, AS LIKE EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY COMING UP AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT IF YOU, IF YOU'RE AROUND, YOU HAVE THE TIME, UH, TO CONSIDER JOINING US HERE AT NOON, UM, ON MEMORIAL DAY, JUST RIGHT AT RIGHT OUTSIDE HERE, YORK HALL FOR OUR YORK COUNTY'S ANNUAL MEMORIAL DAY, UM, CEREMONY. UM, IN FACT ACTUALLY PROBABLY START A LITTLE BIT BEFORE BY 1145 WITH, UH, THE WORLD FAMOUS FIFES AND DRUM SCORE, UH, LEADING US OFF. BUT AT, AT NOON, THE PRESENTATION WILL START AND WE GOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT TO CONSIDER HERE IN YORK COUNTY CONSIDERING OUR HISTORY, UH, FOR MEMORIAL DAY. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, YOU'RE AROUND, UH, PLEASE JOIN US AT NOON ON, UM, ON MONDAY. SO, ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE [RECESS ] A QUICK RECESS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'RE IN RECESS. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS. WE ARE, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. [5. Application No. UP-1019-23 & UP-1020-23, Prayosha LLC (Gas Pumps and MiniStorage) and Application No. UP-1034-24, Prayosha Associate LLC (Minor Expansion of Convenience Store). Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-85, R24-89, and R24- 91 to authorize an automobile fuel dispensing establishment at 905 Denbigh Boulevard and to approve a Special Use Permits for a mini-storage warehouse facility and a minor expansion of a confirming Special Use located also at 905 Denbigh Boulevard. ] ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS APPLICATION, UM, UP DASH 10, 19 DASH 23 AND 10, 20 DASH 23 GAS PUMPS AND MINI STORAGE AND APPLICATION NUMBER, UH, UP 10 34 DASH 24, UH, FOR MINE EXPANSION OF CONVENIENCE STORE. SO, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THIS ONE ITEM IS GONNA REQUIRE, I THINK, UH, THREE DIFFERENT, UM, VOTES. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION BOARD QUESTIONS, APPLICANT COMMENTS, BOARD QUESTION FOR APPLICANT MM-HMM, PUBLIC HEARING, CALL OF CITIZENS CLOSE MOTION VOTE, AND THEN RENT REPEAT TWO OR THREE TIMES. SO CASE PEOPLE WONDER WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE'RE HANDLING THIS ONE. SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS THAT I JUST MENTIONED. AUTHORIZE AUTOMOBILE FIELD DIS SUSPENSION ESTABLISHMENT AT 9 0 5 DEMAN BOULEVARD, IMPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR MANY STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITY AND MINOR EXPANSION OF A CONFIRMING SPECIAL USE LOCATED HERE AS WELL, YOUR HONOR, ALRIGHTYY. UM, AND JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY. UM, THE EXPANSION IS ACTUALLY NOT SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THAT WILL JUST BE A VOTE. SO, ALL RIGHT Y'ALL. GOOD EVENING. UM, AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE THREE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE, UM, UP FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. UM, AS MENTIONED, ACCESSORY FUEL DISPENSING, MANY STORAGE WAREHOUSES, AND THEN THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE. AND THIS IS ALL AT 9 0 5 DENBY BOULEVARD. SO YOU'LL SEE THERE, I'VE OUTLINED THE PARCEL FOR YOU IN BRIGHT BLUE. UM, THE HOT PINK DASHED LINE IS THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS. THE PARCEL IS ALMOST SIX ACRES INSIDE IT'S ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS. YOU'LL NOTICE THESE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALSO ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS. UM, RC TO THE NORTH NEWPORT NEWS, UM, THAT IS THE HUNTINGTON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS R 11 IN THEIR ZONING DISTRICT. THAT IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN THE BRIGHT BLUE, HOT PINK DASH LINE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY. I'VE ALSO SHOWN IN A DASHED GREEN LINE THAT IS A VIRGINIA POWER EASEMENT'S 200 FEET WIDE. IT HAS TRANSMISSION LINES IN IT. IT PRETTY MUCH BISECTS THE PROPERTY AS YOU'LL NOTICE SURROUNDING PARCELS. UM, MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED. [01:15:01] YOU'LL SEE DENBY LAW FIRM SORT OF UP RIGHT THERE. AND I WANNA KNOW THIS AERIAL IS FROM 2021, RIGHT ABOUT HERE IN NEWPORT NEWS AND HUNTINGTON, THEY'RE PUTTING APARTMENTS IN. THOSE AREN'T OCCUPIED YET, BUT THEY ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED. SO THAT'S JUST A PHOTO FOR YOU. UM, THIS USED TO BE THE RIPS ON DENBY. NOW IT IS THE SITE OF THE STOP AND GO CONVENIENCE STORE. UM, ASIDE FROM THAT BUILDING, IT'S NOT FURTHER DEVELOPED. WANTED TO TOUCH ON SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS SITE TO THE NORTH AND WEST. WE DO HAVE THE HUNTINGTON DEVELOPMENT IN CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS. AND THEN TO THE EAST AND SOUTH AGAIN, WE HAVE THOSE UNDEVELOPED PARCELS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAW FIRM. VERY QUICKLY, JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE, THAT ONE ON THE LEFT, WE ARE LOOKING SOUTHWEST. UM, ON THE SITE TO THE RIGHT, I AM MIDDLE OF THE SITE, UM, ON AN ACCESS DRIVE THAT'S BUTS THE EASEMENT. AND I'M LOOKING AT THOSE ARE THE APARTMENTS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THE CITY OF NEWPORT. NEWS ON THE LEFT, I'M LOOKING SOUTH IN THE DRIVEWAY, LOOKING DOWN THAT TRANSMISSION EASEMENT FOR VIRGINIA POWER. AND THEN PHOTO ON THE RIGHT, I'M LOOKING WEST TO THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS. AND YOU'LL SEE THE TREES IN THE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL IN HUNTINGTON. SO THE FIRST TWO APPLICATIONS ARE THE PROPOSED SPECIAL USES. UM, FIRST IS FOR ACCESSORY FUEL PUMPS. THESE ARE GONNA BE THREE PUMP ISLANDS WITH SIX FUELING POSITIONS. AND THE SECOND IS A MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSING. THAT'S GONNA BE BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE. THERE'S GONNA BE EIGHT WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, 225 UNITS, SINGLE STORY. THE OWNER HAS HAD A SKETCH PLAN PREPARED FOR YOU. UM, I'VE OUTLINED IN GREEN WHERE THE MINI STORAGE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE LOCATED, THAT IS BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE. AND THEN THE GAS PUMPS, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE SMALL, SO WE'RE ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT. UM, OH, AND WE SKIPPED AHEAD. SO A LITTLE TRIGGER. HAPPY THOUGHT I HIGHLIGHTED IT. UM, WE HAVE AN ARROW INSTEAD, BUT YOU'LL SEE THERE AGAIN WE HAVE THOSE THREE PUMP ISLANDS. THE TANK'S GONNA BE UNDERGROUND AND THAT'S SOMEWHAT NEAR THE TWO SITE DRIVEWAYS. THERE'S ALSO TWO PROPOSED BY RIGHT USES. WE NOTICED IN THE SKETCH PLAN THAT YOU SEE. SO TWO COMPONENTS. FIRST IS A TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THERE ISN'T A SPECIFIC USER IDENTIFIED FOR THIS BUILDING. SO, UM, IT'S SUPPORTED BEING TREATED AS A POTENTIAL LIKE WHOLESALE OFFICE, BUT AGAIN, NOT A SPECIFIC USER. UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO GOING TO PROPOSE A DRIVE-THROUGH ATTACHED TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE. AND THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THE EXPANSION. SO CIRCLED THERE, THAT'S THAT PROPOSED TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND THEN SEPARATE APPLICATION IS THE EXPANSION FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH. ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA COVER THE PROPOSED EXPANSION VERY BRIEFLY. THIS IS THAT THIRD APPLICATION AND THAT'S SUBJECT TO THAT THIRD RESOLUTION YOU HAVE. SO THIS IS A EXPANSION OF A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING SPECIAL USE. SO THE CONVENIENCE STORE WAS BUILT IN THE EIGHTIES, UM, AND AT THAT TIME THAT LAND USE WAS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN 2004. IT CHANGED TO BE PERMITTED ONLY BY SPECIAL USE PERMITS. SO IN THIS CASE, WE TREAT ANY EXPANSION VERY SIMILARLY TO AS WE WOULD A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND SO FOR STANDARD PERCENTAGES OF INCREASE IN SIZE, UM, IN THIS CASE 902 SQUARE FEET. SO THAT'S 19% QUALIFIES AS A MINOR EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING SPECIAL USE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE VOTING ON IT TONIGHT. UM, THE OWNERS EXPLAINED THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH IS NOT REALLY INTENDED TO BE LIKE A LITTLE FAST FOOD STORE. IT'S GONNA SERVE COFFEE AND LIKE PREPACKAGED SNACKS IS OUR UNDERSTANDING. IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE A SEPARATE BUSINESS IN THERE. AND THAT IS JUST OUTLINING WHERE THAT DRIVE-THROUGH IS SO EXISTING STORE. AND THEN THE BLUE HIGHLIGHT IS WHERE THEY'RE EXPANDING. AND YOU HAVE THE DOUBLE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE AS WELL. ALRIGHT, UM, TRAFFIC IMPACTS ARE A CONSIDERATION FOR THIS. UM, I WANNA NOTE THAT I PUT THE MOST RECENT EDITION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON YOUR DAY IS UP THERE. WE JUST GOT THIS LAST FRIDAY, WHICH IS WHY IT WASN'T IN YOUR ONLINE PACKET. UM, THESE WERE ADDRESSING MOSTLY MINOR COMMENTS AT THIS STAGE. THIS IS A THIRD SUBMITTAL, MINOR COMMENTS FROM VDOT. UM, BUT I WANNA KNOW AT THE END, I PUT A LITTLE STICKY. THOSE ARE THE TWO TURN LANE WARRANTS, RIGHT TURN LANE, LEFT TURN LANE. THE LEFT TURN LANE WAS NOT IN THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IT AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU. SO DISCUSSING TRAFFIC IMPACTS, UM, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ESTIMATED THIS SECTION OF DENBY CARRIES ABOUT 12,700 DAILY TRIPS. AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY COMBINED ALL THE PROPOSED LAND USES AND CREATED A CHIP GENERATION WITH ABOUT 2,500 DAILY TRIPS. UM, 179 IN THE MORNING, 260 3:00 PM PEAK. [01:20:01] NOW TYPICALLY WITH GAS AND CONVENIENCE STORE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WILL APPLY WHAT'S CALLED A PASS BY REDUCTION. UM, IN THIS CASE THEY DIDN'T DO THAT 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO BE CONSERVATIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF LAND USES BEING PROPOSED HERE AND WE WANNA ASSUME WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHAT'S THE MOST TRAFFIC. SO IN THAT CASE, IF YOU READ THROUGH THAT TIA YOU NOTICE THEY DID NOT APPLY A PASS BY REDUCTION. LOOKING AT ALL THE DAILY TRIPS AND WHAT'S GONNA BE GENERATED. UM, THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR ANALYSIS WAS THAT A LEFT TURN LANE NEEDS TO BE STRIPED ON DENBY AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ACCESSING RIGHT TURN LANE THAT IS GOING TO NEED TO BE EXTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CURRENTLY MODIFY THE SITE ENTRANCES. NOW, OKAY, SOMEDAY, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE DENBY BOULEVARD MIGHT BE WIDENED. IT'S CURRENTLY TWO LANES. VDOT HAS A PROPOSAL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN HUNTINGTON. WHEN THE TRA WHEN THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED, MAYBE IT'LL GET WIDENED TO FOUR LANES. DON'T HAVE A DATE ON THAT. SO UNTIL THAT OCCURS, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING TO MODIFY THE SITE ENTRANCES. I WANNA TOUCH BRIEFLY ON PARKING. SO A LOT OF USES ON THIS SITE. PARKING'S. ANOTHER FACTOR WE NEED TO CONSIDER. QUICK TABLE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT, THOSE ARE THE REQUIRED SPACES WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND THEN THE RIGHT HAS WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN THE SKETCH PLAN. THERE'S A DEFICIT OF TWO FOR THE MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITY, UM, GENERATED BY THE OFFICE. THAT'LL GET CORRECTED AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE. WHERE ARE THE ? OH, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE PARKING SPACES WERE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE PARALLEL, SO THEY'RE NOT SUPER APPARENT IF YOU'RE GLANCING AT THE PLAN QUICKLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CALL THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU. THAT'S THE MINI STORAGE PARKING, AND THEN THAT IS THE FRONT OF THE SITE. SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE ANGLED SPACES HERE AND THEN SPACES BACK HERE. STAFF DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT STACKING IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. UM, WITH THE ORDINANCE, WE NEED 11 STACKING SPACES MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED HERE. WHAT NOW? THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES GIVE A PROVISION FOR A DEVELOPER. IF YOU DO AN ALTERNATE ANALYSIS, IF YOU HAVE SIMILAR BUSINESSES AND YOU SAY, OKAY, I HAVE SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENTS IN THESE PLACES AND AT MY PEAK HOUR I HAVE THIS NUMBER OF CARS, TYPICALLY IN MY DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S STACK, THEN YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT. AND THE OWNER HAS STATED THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE. SO WE HAVE A FEW PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UM, FOR EACH SPECIAL USE AND THERE'S SOME COMMON ONES TO GO OVER. THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE GAS PUMPS QUICKLY. UM, FOR BOTH, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE GAS PUMPS, WE WANT THE RIGHT OF PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS TO BE INSTALLED. RE-VEGETATING, THE GREEN BELT BUFFER. SO DEBY BOULEVARD IS A GREEN BELT ROAD. IF YOU LOOK OUT THERE, THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED LONG BEFORE THERE WAS A GREEN BELT BUFFER REQUIREMENT. THERE ISN'T ONE. WE WOULD WANT THOSE TO BE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO THE BEST OF THE OWNER'S ABILITY, REMOVAL OF THE PUMPS AND TANKS IF THE USE CEASES. THERE'S A PROVISION FOR THIS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALREADY. IF THE USE CEASES FOR NINE MONTHS, THOSE GET REMOVED. WE WANT TO REITERATE IT IN THE CONDITION FOR THE USE PERMIT COMPLIANCE WITH FIRE CODE FOR THE MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSES. UM, BLACK WROUGHT IRON FENCING MATERIAL AROUND THE SITE. FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS FOR THE GATES REQUIRING A TYPE 25 TRANSITIONAL BUTTER BUFFER. THIS IS GONNA BE ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO BUFFER THE MINI STORAGE FROM THE PROPOSED DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED IN NEWPORT NEWS. AND A SINGLE MONUMENT SIGN FOR ALL USES ON SITE, UM, TO DELVE INTO THE SIGN CONDITION A BIT. UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY A SIGN FOR THIS, AGAIN, THIS FORMER RIP SIGN. NOW IT'S STOP AND GO. UM, ASSUMING THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO ADVERTISE ALL OF THEIR USES ON SITE, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A CONDITION THAT REQUIRES ALL OF THOSE BE ON A SINGLE MONUMENT SIGN. THERE'S A PROPOSED CONDITION ALSO FOR STORMWATER. SO YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE SKETCH PLAN, I'VE UH, OUTLINED THAT IN THE DASHED RED RIGHT THERE. CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO BE IN THE DOMINION TRANSMISSION EASEMENT. IN THE CASE OF THAT NOT BEING PERMISSIBLE BY DOMINION IN THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, IT CAN'T BE LOCATED THERE. IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE RELOCATED ELSEWHERE ON SITE, PERHAPS IN WHERE THE MINI STORAGE IS. SO THE CONDITION IS INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT OCCURS AND THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE SOME REDESIGN OF THE SITE IN THAT CASE. SO SOME OF OUR CONCLUSIONS WITH THESE THREE APPLICATIONS, WE DO SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE SOME OF THE BUFFERS, THE GREENBELT BUFFER ON DENBY, THE REAR BUFFER TO THE REAR OF THE SITE AND PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS FROM THE COMMERCIAL USE. AND ALSO AN OP, REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE THE PROPERTY. UM, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES HAVE A LOT OF STANDARDS AS WELL AS OUR PROPOSED CONDITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE. UM, EXCUSE ME, IN THE RESOLUTIONS. WE FEEL THESE ARE ADEQUATE [01:25:01] SAFEGUARDS TO PREVENT BLIGHT ON THE SITE AND ULTIMATELY WE DO FEEL IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES COMMERCIAL AND THEN WITH THE DENBY BOULEVARD CORRIDOR. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, A SITE PLAN DOES HAVE TO BE APPROVED FOR THIS SITE THAT'S GONNA ADDRESS STORM WATER, LANDSCAPING, PARKING, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC. THEREFORE, STAFF IS GONNA RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FIRST TWO RESOLUTIONS. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HEAR THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS, THOSE TWO SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THEM AS WELL. WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE THIRD RESOLUTION FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE EXPANSION. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. DONALD DAVIS, IS HERE TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICANT THEMSELVES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS. SO WE HAVE THREE RESOLUTIONS. R 24 DASH 85 89, AND 91 85 IS FOR THE GAS PUMPS? YES. UH, 89 IS FOR THE STORAGE UNITS, YES, SIR. AND 91 IS FOR THAT EXPANSION. YES, SIR. DRIVE THROUGH. OKAY. MM-HMM, . SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND VOTES ON THAT. SO YES, SIR. OKAY. SO, UM, BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROY? CAITLIN? UM, MM-HMM. , I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE GAS PUMPS AND THEY'RE AWFULLY TIGHT. YES. UM, YOU KNOW, THE IT FROM MY CALCULATIONS, IF YOU HAD THREE STANDARD VEHICLES PARKED AT THREE PUMPS, YOU'VE GOT ABOUT SIX FEET IN BETWEEN EACH VEHICLE. SO EVEN BEING ABLE TO PULL OUT OF A SPOT, UH, IS DIFFICULT. AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ANGLED PARKING BACKING INTO THAT SAME AREA WHERE, UH, WHERE VEHICLES FROM THE GAS PUMPS ARE TRYING TO EXIT FROM. UM, MM-HMM. , HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION EVEN AT THE, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON, COULD THAT BE IMPROVED OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT TIED UP AGAINST THE PARKING ON THE, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE? I'M GONNA TAP BACK TO THE SKETCH PLAN IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UM, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY TIGHT WHEN I DO THE MATH. SO IT IS, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE, THERE'S ONLY A 12 FOOT DRIVE AISLE. YOU'RE CORRECT. UM, AND, AND THE WIDTH OF THE PUMP AREA IS ONLY 20, WHICH WHEN YOU DIVIDE BY HALF BECAUSE THEY'RE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT, IT'S THE WIDTH OF A CAR. IT'S NO MORE THAN THAT. NO, YOU'RE CORRECT. IT'S VERY TIGHT. AND THAT, THAT WAS A CONCERN. UM, ONE COMMISSIONER DID RAISE SOME CONCERNS ALSO WITH THE SITE DRIVEWAYS AND SORT OF THAT CIRCULATION SITUATION. SO THAT IS A CONCERN STAFF SHARED AS WELL. AND, AND COULD THEY NOT MOVE CLOSER TO THE, THE TANK TO PULL THAT OUT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS I BELIEVE THE TANK CAN'T HAVE STRUCTURE OVER IT. UM, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CLEARANCE BETWEEN WHERE THE PUMPS ARE AND THEN WHERE THE CARS WOULD BE PARKING. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND THAT'S WHY IT'S LOCATED THE WAY IT IS. AND DONALD MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND UPON THAT, SITING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I COULD. THE ONLY ISSUE I HAD HERE IS JUST EXTREMELY TIGHT. MM-HMM. . WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCIDENTS WAITING TO HAPPEN. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, I, I SEE THAT. AND IS THERE A WAY TO MOVE THOSE PUMPS OUT? I DON'T HAVE THAT UP HERE. I'M LOOKING DOWN THERE, BUT, MM-HMM. . IS THERE A WAY TO, TO EXPAND THAT AWNING? I GUESS THERE'S GONNA BE AN AWNING OVER TOP OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE. MM-HMM. . AND IF THEY EXPANDED THAT OUT ANOTHER 10 FEET OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU PROBABLY AMPLE SPACE FOR THE CARS AROUND THE PUMPS. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT, YEAH, YOU GOT 12 FEET, THOSE PEOPLE ARE BACKING OUT OF THAT 12 FEET. I THINK THE FIRE HAD SOME CONCERN WITH, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE THE SITE DRIVEWAYS ARE SO TIGHT IN TOGETHER MM-HMM. , UM, THEN SWINGING IN FOR ACCESS AND BEING ABLE TO MAKE A TURN, I THINK IS WHY THE CANOPY ISN'T MORE EXTENDED OUT. 'CAUSE IT WOULD THEN, IT WOULD KIND OF STRETCH OUT INTO THE DRY VIAL HERE. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE BMP MM-HMM. IF IT CAN'T GO THERE, OBVIOUSLY FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE, UH, IN THE TRANSMISSION RIGHT OF WAY, IT MIGHT NOT BE, WE DIDN'T GET A SOLID ANSWER FROM DOMINION TIMES. OKAY. SO IF IT, THE, THE CONDITIONS FOR, LIKE, IF IT GOES TO SITE PLAN AND DOMINION COMES BACK WITH HOWEVER THEY'RE DESIGNING THE BMP, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK IN THEIR TRANSMISSION EASEMENT. IT HAS TO BE RELOCATED ON SITE. IT'S STORMWATER. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT GETS DONE AND THE SITE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE REDESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE IT. OKAY. BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE, THE BMP'S A LOT BIGGER IN SURFACE AREA THAN WHAT THE PROPOSED TWO STORY BUILDING IS. SO, MM-HMM. . YEAH. AND THAT'S, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE, THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING OF ALL OF THE USES ON SITE. SO IF THOSE CHANGE, LIKE IF, AGAIN, IF THE BMP CAN'T BE THERE, IT HAS TO MOVE AND WE'RE PROBABLY PARING DOWN SOME OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON THE SITE AND THAT'S GONNA REFLECT THE SIZE OF YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW, MR. SHEPHERD. [01:30:01] OKAY. SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS THERE IN THIS CONSTRUCTION IS, UM, IS THERE A, ARE THEY VIOLATING ANY SAFETY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS? FIRE DID NOT CONVEY THAT TO ME. NO. SO THE ANSWER IS NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, NO. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISTANCE STANDARDS FOR ANY OF THIS STUFF? YEAH, SO FOR FIRE HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND I'M JUST STATE FOR LIKE, ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC OR MORE SO LIKE THE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY ARE IN RELATIVE TO THE GAS, ANY OF IT. ANY OF IT. OKAY. SO FOR FIRE LANE, UM, FOR ACCESS FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN STANDARDS FOR, AGAIN, APPARATUS ACCESS. AND THEY MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, DRY VALVES HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN MINIMUM WIDTH AND THEY LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS. UM, SO IS, SO THEY'RE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY MEETING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES. OKAY. SO THERE'S, SO IS, UH, THE PARKING, SO THERE'S NO PARKING DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS HERE. UM, ARE YOU SPEAKING AS THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVE? OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE. ALL RIGHT. THE DISTANCE. SO YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE CONCERNS. MM-HMM. , MY QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE. ARE THEY VIOLATING ANY DISTANCE STANDARDS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS NO. FROM A FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE. SO FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DRIVE AISLE, BECAUSE THESE ARE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A ONE-WAY TURN IN SO THAT THEY'RE MEETING THAT MINIMUM OF 12 FEET. OKAY. THE MEETING, THE DISTANCE. OKAY. ARE THEY, ARE THEY MEETING THE PARKING WIDTH REQUIREMENTS? YES. OKAY. ARE THEY MEETING THE, OKAY, SO ARE THEY MEETING THE SEPARATION, UH, FROM EACH PARKING UNIT TO THE OTHER PARKING UNIT? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU GOT THE ONES NEXT TO THE BUILDING, YOU GOT THE ONES THAT ARE AWAY. ARE THEY, THE DISTANCE IS SUFFICIENT. YEAH. AND THERE'S, THERE'S A 10 FOOT MINIMUM TOO FOR, AND THAT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO YOU HAVE YOUR BUILDING AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT 10 FEET BEFORE YOU, SO THEY CAN'T PUSH THE PARKING CLUSTER TO THE BUILDING. THEY'RE MEETING THE, ARE THEY MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS STANDARDS? UM, MINUS TWO SPACES, YES. UM, THEY DO, THEY DO. I KNOW THIS IS A CATCHES THEY NEED TO ACCOMMODATE TWO MORE SPACES ON SITE. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR, HEY, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANY, ANY OTHER ANSWER EITHER YES OR NO. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR. OKAY. I'M NOT CA I'M NOT MM-HMM. I'M NOT QUANTIFY OR QUALIFYING ANY OF THIS. MM-HMM. . I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS. OKAY. SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK AN ARGUMENT HERE. NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. OKAY. SO 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW SOMETHING'S TIGHT, NOT TIGHT, WHATEVER. BUT MY QUESTION IS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, THEY'VE GOT A PROPOSAL, THEY'VE SUBMITTED THE PROPOSAL, YOU'VE DONE IT THROUGH THE, ALL THE, YOU'VE PUT IT THROUGH THE SECURITY STANDARD OR STANDARDS FOR SAFETY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND ALL THE OTHER STANDARDS FOR THE STAFF. RIGHT. AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. MM-HMM. . I, I DO WANNA SAY WITH THE CAVEAT THOUGH, THAT AGAIN, THIS IS A SKETCH PLAN AND IT'S NOT A FULLY ENGINEERED SITE PLAN. GOT IT. SO THERE'S SOME BITS AND PIECES THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON. AND WHEN IT GETS TO A POINT OF IT GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, THERE MIGHT BE ADJUSTMENTS. SURE. I MEAN, THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED EVERY TIME. 'CAUSE MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THERE'S MORE OF THE PROCESS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S ANY, BECAUSE THE WAY IS BEING PRESENTED SOUND AND THE DISCUSSION SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE SOME VIOLATIONS OR A CRIME. WELL, THERE WAS A, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A VIOLATION, BUT I MEAN, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED PARKING AT THE PUMPS AND, OKAY, HANG ON, HANG ON. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A CONCERN? OKAY. YOU EITHER YOU PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO US. OKAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE BIG ISSUE IS WHETHER WE WANNA ALLOW FOR STORAGE OR WE'RE GONNA ALLOW FOR TANKS OR WE ALLOW FOR EXPANSION. OKAY. I'M, I'M NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO RE-ENGINEER THE, THE THING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DO THE RE-ENGINEERING. MM-HMM. . SO, SO WHAT WHAT WE ARE THINK IS, YEAH, WE, OKAY, WE CAN HAVE A GAS STATION, WE CAN HAVE, UH, UH, MAYBE SOME, UH, STORAGE, ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY, WHICH COULD TWO ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO DISCUSS OVER THE YEARS. MM-HMM. , ALTHOUGH WE'VE GOT TOO MANY OF THESE THINGS OR NOT. AND THEN THIS DRIVE-THROUGH IS JUST A, JUST A STANDARD OLD DRIVE-THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE 'EM AT ANY BURGER KING OR, UH, MCDONALD'S OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO NONE OF, SO NONE OF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME HERE THEN IS THAT WE'RE VIOLATING, THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY SAFETY STANDARDS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. NO, YOU QUANTIFYING THAT WHEN YOU SAY THAT TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING, WHAT ELSE WOULD, WHO ELSE WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS FROM A FIRE PERSPECTIVE? BUT AGAIN, I HAVEN'T BEEN CONVEYED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS. DO WE NEED TO CALL THE CHIEF UP HERE TO HAVE HIM ANSWER THE QUESTION? CERTAINLY QUESTION. CERTAINLY. COME ON DOWN, CHIEF. COME ON DOWN. . I DO THAT. SO CHIEF, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION HERE. ARE WE VIOLATING ANY STANDARDS THAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO? WE, I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THIS. MM-HMM. SUBMITTED OUR COMMENTS TO PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ANY OF OUR CONCERNS WOULD'VE [01:35:01] BEEN EXPRESSED. THEN, HOWEVER, IT IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN AND THE, AT THE POINT THAT THE ULTIMATE FINAL SITE PLAN IS SUBMITTED, WE WILL VERIFY THAT THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH DISTANCES, THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH ACCESS INTO AND AROUND THE BUILDING AND NO ISSUES THAT ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE AS IT RELATES TO THINGS SUCH AS BUMPS, PUMP SEPARATION OR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. IF WE DISCOVER THAT THINGS SUCH AS BOLLARDS NEED TO BE PUT AROUND IN THE PUMP ISLANDS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WE WILL MAKE THAT, THOSE FINAL COMMENTS AT WE SEE THE FINAL BY THIS TIME, THEN IT'LL BE PAST THIS BOARD. SO WHO HAS THE DECISION ON WHETHER THAT CAN PROCEED OR NOT THAT YOU ALRIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME UP IN FRONT OF THE BOARD WITH, WITH RATHER COMPLEX THREE MOTION OR THREE RESOLUTION TYPE OF, UH, PROPOSAL YOU RUN INTO, YOU RUN INTO MULTIPLE ISSUES AND, UH, WHEN YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION AND, AND THAT IT IS NOT VERY CLEAR, IT SOUNDED LIKE WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE DESIGN. OKAY. I'M NOT UP HERE TO REDESIGN THIS THING 'CAUSE I KNOW THROUGH THE PROCESS IF IT NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE. SO MY CONCERN IS WHETHER I'M LOOKING UP HERE IS WHETHER, DO WE WANT A GAS STATION, DO WE WANT A STORAGE FACILITY? DO WE WANT A DRIVE THROUGH ON THIS SITE? DOES IT FIT NOT JUST THE LAND USE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT FROM LAND USE PERSPECTIVE? NO. OKAY. THAT'S, I'M SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, YES. THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD FOR GAS PUMPS. MM-HMM. AND NINE USE FOR NINE MONTHS, THE GAS PUMPS GET REMOVED. MM-HMM. WHAT ABOUT THE GAS TANK? SAME, UM, SAME THING. TANK CAN, EVERYTHING HAS TO COME OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT, IS THERE PERFORMANCE STANDARD SIMILAR FOR THE, UM, STORAGE UNITS IF THEY'RE NOT USING NINE MONTHS OR A PERIOD OF TIME? WE DON'T KNOW. NOT A REMOVAL CLAUSE FOR STORAGE UNITS, NO. WE, WE DO HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THEM. UM, PARTICULARLY DESIGN AND SEPARATION OF BUILDINGS, BUT NOT, UM, REMOVAL. UM, FOR GAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS CONCERNED OVER, THEY WOULD GET ABANDONED AND THEN THEY WOULD BECOME BLIGHTED OVER TIME, WHICH IS WHY THOSE ARE IN THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, IS THIS, UH, PROJECT GOING TO RESULT IN A NEW, UM, PARKING LOT RE PAVEMENT? DO WE KNOW? YEAH. UM, THE, THE CURRENT LOT IS ISN'T OF ADEQUATE SIZE AND IS GONNA REQUIRE RESURFACING. AND SO EVERYTHING BACK HERE IS, IS BRAND NEW PAVEMENT. UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING REALLY TO THE REAR OF IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S GRASS AND THEN INTERNET. WELL, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GONNA END UP GETTING VE YEAH, THAT'S GONNA TO, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ENTIRELY RESURFACED, RIGHT? MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE COMING DOWN DEMI BOULEVARD INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THAT RIGHT HAND TURN LANE GO, GOES PAST THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO INDEPENDENCE, RIGHT HAND TURN, TURN INDEPENDENCE, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LEFT HAND TURN LANE. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A STRIPED MEDIUM STRIP IT. SO VDOT RIGHT NOW IS OKAY WITH, WELL, NO. SO PART OF THE TIA IS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS YOU'RE STRIPING A TURN LANE FOR THIS SITE ON DENBY. UM, VDOT WAS CONCURRENT WITH, THAT'S GONNA HAVE THAT 200 FEET OF STORAGE AND THEN TAPER. UM, BUT THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE STRIPED IN. IT DOESN'T EXIST RIGHT NOW, JUST THE RIGHT HAND. SO WE ARE GONNA STRIPE WHO, WHO IS WE, UH, THE OWNER'S GONNA NEED TO HAVE, MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN CONJUNCTION WHEN COORDINATION WOULD DOG. SO THEY, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A LEFT HAND TURN LANE WHERE THIS, WHERE THE STRIPED MEANING IS AT NOW. IS THAT, UH, A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF IT? YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S JUST WHERE THE PAVEMENT IS. THERE'S WIDE SHOULDERS, SO THINGS ARE GONNA SHIFT A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I THINK THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. YEP. FOLLOW UP WITH ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. MM-HMM, . SO THE, UH, SITE PLAN, UM, THAT WE APPROVE IF WE APPROVE IT FOR ALL THREE OF THESE ELEMENTS. MM. OKAY. HOW LONG DOES THAT SITE PLAN OR THIS APPROVAL EXIST IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING? WELL FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS USE PERMIT, IT'S FROM VOTE AND APPROVAL. IF THEY, IT'S GOOD FOR TWO YEARS, IF THEY DO NOT MAKE AN EFFORT TO COMMENCE THE USE, SO THEY DON'T SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NO ACTIVE MOVEMENT TOWARDS MAKING IT HAPPEN, THEN IT EXPIRES AND THEN THIS TWO YEARS. YEAH. AND THIS SKETCH PLAN BECOMES AN NULL. NOW IF THEY SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, THEY'VE STARTED THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S THEIR PROCESS APPROVAL. SO, SO I'LL, I'LL JUST FINISH UP RE REGARDING THE, ALL THE PARKING QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS IS A CATCH PLAN, NOT THE SITE PLAN, BUT I'LL JUST SAY AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER THAT FINAL SITE PLAN IS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE DON'T INTRODUCE ANY PROBLEMS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL OUT THE DEPUTIES FOR CARS BACKING IN THE PUMP GAS PUMPS, OR IN IN EACH OTHER. MM-HMM. , LET'S NOT CREATE A PROBLEM. IT'S DESIGN A SITE PLAN THAT IT'S GONNA RUN THINGS SMOOTHLY. MM-HMM. . UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, INVITE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT FOR REPRESENTATIVE TO COME UP FOR ANY COMMENTS YOU MIGHT WANNA SHARE. MR. [01:40:01] CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS DONALD DAVIS, OUTTA LAND SURVEYOR DAVIS AND ASSOCIATES. I'M LOCATED AT 36 30 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY IN YORKTOWN. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED HERE. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE IS A REALLY, IT'S A CONCEPT PLAN, BUT, UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY SURVEYED THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE ON IT IS CORRECT. THE PARKING SPACE, SIZE, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS, THEY ARE WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THEN I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ASKED TONIGHT, MANY OF THEM I THINK HAVE BEEN REALLY ADDRESSED BY THE COUNTY. UM, SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THE OWNERS WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AS SOON AS THEY CAN. THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, THEY BOUGHT IT A COUPLE YEARS BACK, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO UPGRADE THE ENTIRE SITE. UM, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS OVER 50 YEARS OLD. IT PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN ASPHALTED IN PROBABLY THE LAST 30 YEARS OR MORE. UM, WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, IT WAS UNANIMOUS THAT THEY AGREED THAT THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT FOR THIS AREA. NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS REALLY NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF YORK COUNTY. IT'S ONLY GONNA PROVIDE TAX REVENUE, EXCUSE ME. UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE USED IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ARE GONNA BE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVE IN NEWPORT NEWS. AND IN THAT AREA, THERE ARE MORE THAN 10,000 RESIDENCES WITHIN ONE MILE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE. EXCUSE ME. UM, THERE ISN'T A FUEL DISPENSING AREA WITHIN MORE THAN ONE MILE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM, THERE'S NOT A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHIN MORE THAN ONE MILE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY NEED IN THIS AREA. UM, IT WILL CUT DOWN A NUMBER OF TRICKS PER TRIPS PER DAY FROM RESIDENTS IN NEWPORT NEWS. NOW, ONE THING I WAS INTERESTED, UH, IN IS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WERE THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HAD BEEN TO THE SITE RECENTLY, AND THEY DIDN'T GO THERE TO SEE IT. THEY HAD BEEN THERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BUY SOMETHING. SO PEOPLE DO COME BY THERE, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE FROM YORK COUNTY THAT USE THIS SITE, BUT GENERALLY THEY'RE GONNA BE FOR PEOPLE LIVE IN NEWPORT NEWS. UM, AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE THIS AS CLOSE AS WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT BASED ON REAL WORLD DATA, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN SURVEYED BEFORE THE TOPOS BEEN DONE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DOMINION ENERGY TO BE ABLE TO GET AN AGREEMENT TO PUT THE BNP OVER THE, UH, VIRGINIA POWER RIGHT AWAY THAT EXISTS THERE. UM, I GUESS HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, UH, AND I, I THINK THAT THE COUNTY'S DONE A GOOD JOB ON THIS, REVIEWING THE INFORMATION. THE INFORMATION ALSO THAT'S SHOWN IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH IT. IT'S NOT, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING SNEAKY HERE, BUT IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE FROM WITS OF AISLES TO ANGLED PARKING, TO THE PARKING AREAS, TO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THERE. IF WE NEED TWO MORE, WE'LL GET THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES. UM, THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, AND I'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THESE TYPES OF STORAGE UNITS OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS ONE MEETS OR EXCEEDS THOSE REQUIREMENTS. NOW THE NUMBER OF SPACES, UM, WITHIN THE UNITS, UM, MAY GO DOWN. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAME UP WITH HERE INTERNALLY WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OWNERS. UM, AND I'M SORRY, NOT PERSPECTIVE, BUT THE OWNERS THAT WE CAME UP WITH, AND THE OWNERS HAVE SAID, DONALD, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK WILL WORK. WE'VE DONE THESE FROM NORFOLK TO VIRGINIA BEACH, TO ALLOY COUNTY, TO, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY. UM, AND WE'VE DONE SOME HERE IN YORK COUNTY BEFORE, BUT THIS MAY REQUIRE SOME REDUCTION, NOT IN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE TOTAL AREA, BUT MAYBE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THERE, IT'S COULD BE BASED ON WHAT THE REAL WORLD REQUIRES. I GUESS. HAVING SAID THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU MS. DAVIS. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ANY QUESTIONS? NO ANSWER, SIR. OKAY. UM, REAL QUICK, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUEL VENDOR WILL BE? UH, JONES AND FRANK. THAT'S WHO WE'RE TALKING TO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS, SO, OKAY, FINE. THANK YOU. YEP. UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I BELIEVE MS. POO SHOW YOU WERE INTERESTED TO. NO, THAT ONE. ALRIGHT, HOLD ON. I GET 10 33 34. OKAY. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING [01:45:01] THIS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. CNI, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THE FIRST RESOLUTION. R 24 85, WHICH IS FOR THE GAS PUMPS. SO MOVED. ALRIGHT, SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, HAVE A MOTION FOR MS. NOEL. SO, UM, NOW LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? READY? I THINK I'VE ALREADY MADE MY COMMENT. I THINK THE, UH, TIGHT, THE, UH, TIGHTNESS OF THE PUMPS IS AN ISSUE, BUT I, I LEAVE IT TO THE, UH, THE OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER TO, UH, SEE IF THERE'S A SOLUTION THAT GIVES 'EM A, A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESS WAY. I WONDER IF THE PUMP, OR SORRY, THE UNDERGROUND TANK CAN SHIFT OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT THE PUMPS CAN MOVE, UH, CLOSER TO DMBI. BUT THAT'S NOT, NOT FOR ME TO DECIDE HERE. IT'S, UH, IT'S A, UM, IT'S AN OPEN ISSUE THAT I THINK IT'S A VERY TIGHT SITE THERE. THEY SHOULD LOOK AT IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MS. NOEL. NO COMMENTS? GOOD? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOWLES TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 85 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. RUN? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS FOR RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 89, WHICH IS FOR THE, UM, STORAGE UNITS. SO, UM, ASK HIM HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT. SO MOVED. OKAY, MR. ROY. THANK YOU. UM, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE UNLESS CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROY IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 89 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MR. RUNN? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. AND THE FINAL RESOLUTION, R 24 DASH 91, WHICH IS FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH. CAN A MOTION FOR THAT PLEASE? SO MOVE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. NOLL. UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? I JUST AGREE THAT I AGREE THAT THIS AREA OUT THERE IS A FOOD DESERT AND SO THIS, THIS, EVEN AS SMALL AS IT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED NO ELSE'S IT. THANK YOU. AND I, I'LL, I'LL JUST SHARE NOT ONLY THAT, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THIS SITE. MM-HMM. IS, IS VERY WELCOME. I'M, I'M GLAD THE OWNERS ARE INVESTED IN IT AND IN YORK COUNTY AND TO SERVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS, UM, YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO, UM, TO, TO SEE THIS, TO SEE THAT SITE IMPROVED IS GONNA BE A BIG DEAL. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL. UM, YOUR ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 91 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. KNOLL? YES. MR. ROH? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. YEP. YES. ALRIGHT, MOVING [6. Application No. UP-1033-34, Edwin J. Spaetzel. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-90 to approve an application for a Special Use Permit to authorize firearms sales and gunsmithing as a home occupation with on-premises customer/client contact on property located at 1214 Wilkins Drive (Route 720). ] ON TO APPLICATION NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE INTO IT HERE. UM, RIGHT, RIGHT. ONE ON TRACK, UH, I PRO RESOLUTION, UH, R 24 DASH 90, WHICH IS APPLICATION UP 10 33 DASH 34. THE PRE APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE FIREARM SALES IN GUNSMITH AND AS A HOME OCCUPATION WITH ON-PREMISES CUSTOMER CLIENT CONTACT, UH, AT 1214 WILKINS DRIVE. AND WHEN YOU'RE READY. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE WARD. UM, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FIREARM SALES AND GUNSMITHING BUSINESS AS A HOME OCCUPATION WITH ONSITE CUSTOMER CLIENT CONTACT LOCATED AT 1214 WILKINS DRIVE. THE PARCEL IS 0.3 ACRES AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ZONED R 13 FOR A HIGH DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED ON WILKINS DRIVE IN THE YORK TERRACE SUBDIVISION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE GARAGE WHERE THE HOME OCCUPATION WOULD BE. THE PROPOSED GUNSMITHING [01:50:01] HOME OCCUPATION WOULD INCLUDE THE DESIGNING, MAKING, AND REPAIRING OF FIREARMS. MR. SPA ALSO PROPOSES TO HAVE LIMITED GUNS AND AMMUNITION SALE. THIS PART OF THE USE WOULD BE LOCATED IN AN AREA OF THE DETACHED GARAGE, WHICH WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR OFFICE AND CUSTOMER CONTACT. STAFF IS PROPOSING CONDITIONS PROHIBITING THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO SECURELY STORE CUSTOMER'S FIREARMS WHEN THEY ARE NOT BEING WORKED ON. ALL WEAPONS WILL BE KEPT IN LOCKED GUN SAFES. MR. SPASO HAS TWO LIBERTY LINCOLN GUN SAFES FOR HIS, FOR THIS PURPOSE. AND THEY ARE BOLTED TO THE SIX INCH THICK CONCRETE FLOOR WITH ONE INCH DIAMETER BOLTS. AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SECOND GUN SAFE. THE GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED OF EIGHT INCH THICK CONCRETE BLOCKS AND REINFORCED WITH REBAR AND ADDITIONAL CONCRETE AND HAS NO WINDOWS. A HEAVY STEEL SECURITY DOOR AND A THREE INCH THICK REINFORCED GARAGE DOOR ARE THE ONLY ENTRY AND EXIT, UM, TO THE BUILDING. ACCORDING TO THE SKETCH PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION WOULD INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 315 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AREA WITHIN THE DETACHED GARAGE. MR. SPA HAS DIVIDED THE 300 SQUARE FEET IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE GARAGE. 150 SQUARE FEET, UH, WOULD BE FOR WORK AREA. UH, 36 SQUARE FEET IS FOR A BENCH AND 128 SQUARE FEET IS FOR A DESK. THE ZONING ORDINANCE SPECIFIES A SERIES OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO HOME OCCUPATIONS AND ACCORDANCE WITH THESE STANDARDS. HOME OCCUPATIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO OCCUPY MORE THAN 25% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF A RESIDENCE OR 400 SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS, UNLESS THE BOARD AUTHORIZES A GREATER FLOOR AREA IN CONJUNCTION WITH A USE PERMIT APPLICATION. ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S RECORDS, THE HOME HAS APPROXIMATELY 1,258 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. THE 315 SQUARE FEET OF THE FLOOR AREA OCCUPIED BY THE DETACHED GARAGE PROPOSED FOR THIS HOME OCCUPATION WOULD CONSTITUTE APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THE HOME'S TOTAL FLOOR AREA. OFF STREET PARKING MUST BE PROVIDED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE HOME OCCUPATION. THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BESIDE THE HOUSE LEADING TO THE DETACHED GARAGE, THE PROPERTY HAS A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY MEASURING 112 FEET BY 10 FEET THAT CAN PARK AT LEAST FOUR VEHICLES, ONE BEHIND ANOTHER. THE PARKING AREA DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE DETACHED GARAGE MEASURES 20 BY 26 FEET AND CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE AT A TIME. AS SUCH, THE PROPERTY CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO REQUIRED RESIDENTIAL SPACES PLUS TWO ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR CLIENT'S VEHICLES. MR. SPASO JUST PUT UP THIS FENCE BACK IN APRIL OR MAY. UH, IT IS A PRIVACY FENCE AND THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE PRIVACY FENCE. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT HE WOULD WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 10 IN THE MORNING TO 2:00 PM IN THE AFTERNOON AND WOULD BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY WITH NO MORE THAN ONE CUSTOMER AT A TIME. AND, UM, MR. SPASO HAS ALSO SAID THAT HE DOES NOT WANNA SIGN SEVERAL OTHER SPECIAL USE PERMITS HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO ALLOW ONSITE CUSTOMER CONTACT IN CONJUNCTION WITH HOME OCCUPATION INVOLVING FIREARMS REPAIR AND SALES. AND THESE, THE ONES IN THE RED ARE INACTIVE AND THE GREEN ONES ARE THE ACTIVE ONES HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND ACCORDING TO ZONING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OR ENFORCEMENTS ACTIONS RELATED TO ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES. THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER APPROVED HOME OCCUPATIONS THAT INVOLVE CUSTOMER CONTACT AND IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA. PARKING WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND GRAVEL AREA. THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THE RESIDENCE. IT, UM, HAS NOT BEEN COUNTY'S PRACTICE TO TIE SUP APPROVALS TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. [01:55:01] BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT IF A USE IS ACCEPTABLE IN A GIVEN LOCATION, IT SHOULD NOT MATTER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY. IN THE CASE OF HOME OCCUPATIONS FOR FIREARM SALES, AN EXCEPTION TO THE NORMAL RULE MAY BE APPROPRIATE. COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE A SENSITIVE ISSUE, AND PEOPLE'S REACTIONS TO PROPOSED USES ARE OFTEN INFLUENCED BY THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE APPLICANT. WE HAVE RECOMMENDED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD CAUSE THE USE TO, UH, OF THE PERMIT TO EXPIRE UPON THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY BY THE CURRENT OWNER. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 24 DASH 90 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION AT ITS APRIL 10TH MEETING AND VOTED SEVEN TO ZERO, UH, AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND MR. SPA, THE APPLICANT IS HERE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS. HEY, MR. RUMAN, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ONE QUESTION. UH, IT WAS, CHAIRMAN SMITH HAD ASKED THE QUESTION WHETHER THERE WAS AN ALARM SYSTEM, UH, BEING IMPLEMENTED WITH THIS GUNSMITHING UH, REQUEST. I KNOW IN, IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE REVIEWED GUNSMITHING UH, APPLICATIONS, THAT'S USUALLY BEEN A REQUIREMENT OR A STRONG SUGGESTION. IT'S NOT IN OUR ORDINANCE BECAUSE THIS IS A HOME, HOME OWNERSHIP OR, OR HOME BASED BUSINESS, UH, APPLICATION, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO GUNSMITHING. HAS THE APPLICANT UH, ANSWERED THE QUESTION SINCE THEN? YES. I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY INSTALLED THE ALARMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO. OKAY. MR. JURY? YEAH. UH, ON THE GATES, I WOULD SU ASSUME THE GATES WOULD BE LOCKED AT ALL TIMES WHEN NO ONE'S THERE? UM, I WOULD THINK SO, BUT MR. SPA CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE. UM, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE DOORS ON THE GARAGE WOULD ALSO BE LOCKED AT ALL TIMES WHEN UNOCCUPIED. YES. RIGHT. MM-HMM. , UH, AND I'M, I'M SURE THIS IS, GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT THERE'LL BE NO FIRING OF FIREARMS ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY TIME. NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD. UH, YES. UH, CAN YOU TAKE THE, GO BACK TO THE PICTURE? IT SHOWS THE FENCE. IT'S, I THINK IT'S JUST BEFORE THE OPERATION SLIDE THERE. THAT'S ONE UP. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THERE'S THE ONE, THERE'S EITHER ONE BEFORE OR AFTER THERE. OKAY. RIGHT THERE NOW IS, I CAN'T TELL FROM HERE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT FENCE IS CONNECTED TO ANOTHER FENCE. UM, THIS, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY. THIS FENCE IS CONNECTED TO THIS SMALLER FENCE. OKAY. SO WHICH ONE'S HIS FENCE? THAT AND WHICH ONE'S THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE? THAT'S ALL HIS, UH, WELL, I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE IS A FENCE TO THE SIDE OF THIS ONE RIGHT HERE WHERE THE CURSOR'S AT DIVIDING THIS PROPERTY AND MR. UH, SPA'S PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO IS THERE, BUT ARE THE FENCES CONNECTED? I MEAN, THEY DON'T RUN TWO PARALLEL FENCES THROUGH THE BACK, ARE THEY? ARE THEY, I, I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IF THE APPLICANT, UM, CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. I NEED TO ASK, BECAUSE THIS FUNDAMENTALS QUESTION I'M ASKING AT THAT HOUSE. WHAT'S THAT ADDRESS TO THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE WHAT IT 1216. 1216 WILKINS DRIVE. OKAY. AND NOW GO BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE. OKAY. IS THAT CONNECTED TO THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE? UH, THIS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS, UM, NOT CONNECTED TO THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. UM, IT, IT DOES HAVE A FENCE, BUT ALSO THIS IS BAMBOO THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR, I WANNA SAY OVER 40 OR 50 YEARS. OKAY. UH, THERE IS NO WAY THAT EITHER MR. SPASO CAN REMOVE IT. UM, ACCORDING TO WHAT HE SAYS, IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET RID OF THAT. AND ALL OF THIS BAMBOO GIVES HIM PRIVACY TO THE OTHER HOUSE. THIS ONE IS, AND NOW MS. ZEL LIVES AT 1214, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THE PERSON THAT'S COMPLAINING LIVES AT TWO 12, WHICH WOULD BE NEXT DOOR 12. 12 TWO. HE, ONE HE'S ON TWO. THEY'RE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET. 12. IF I, IF I, YES. 12. 12. YOU SAID TWO 12? NO. YEAH. 1212. 12. 12. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YEAH, IT'S ON 12. 12. OKAY. SO THEY'RE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET AND ONE SHOULD BE HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. OKAY. SO DO YOU, WHERE CAN YOU, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE THAT SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT HOUSE TO THIS HOUSE? I DO NOT HAVE A PICTURE, SIR. COULD ABOUT 12, 12 WOULD BE, I GUESS THIS, THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE. BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IT FROM ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE ON SIDE OF MR. SPA, [02:00:01] I GUESS HE'S HERE WHO ARE, HE CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. 'CAUSE THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT FENCES ARE CONNECTED AND IF A PERSON DOESN'T WANT SOMEBODY THAT TO HAVE A BUSINESS OR SOMETHING, I'M SURPRISED THEY WOULD HAVE EVEN GO TO THE LENGTH OF ALLOWING HIM TO CONNECT A FENCE. SO THE, THE, IF I READ THE, THE, UH, REPORTS CORRECTLY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON THAT IS SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT THIS BUSINESS, ACTUALLY DOESN'T LIVE AT THAT HOUSE. HE DOES NOT. HE IS RENTING IT. HE IS RENTING IT. OKAY. SO WE HAD NO OTHER COMPLAINTS, RIGHT? NO, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OTHER COMPLAINT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT MY POINT ON THIS IS THAT, THAT IF, IF SOMEBODY WAS REALLY OBJECTING TO THAT, I DOUBT THEY WOULD LET A FENCE BECAUSE THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, CONNECT A FENCE TO THE PROPERTY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, THE READS OR, RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T, MRS. SPES CAN PROBABLY COME UP AND ANSWER THAT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COULD, COULD YOU SHOW ME THE OPIATE SHOT? I'M TRYING TO UNDER, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE GARAGE IS IN RE RELATION TO THE HOUSE. SO WHATEVER OPIATE SHOT. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THE GARAGE. BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO THROUGH THESE DOORS RIGHT HERE, UH, THE GARAGE IS STRAIGHT DOWN AND SO IS THAT, AND IT'S A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS DETACHED GARAGE. OKAY. SHOW, SHOW ME, SHOW ME THE OVERHEAD SHOT, PLEASE. OH WAIT. SO LIKE, IF YOU WERE, IF YOU WERE DRIVING THAT CAR, YOU WOULD DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU, I DON'T THINK SHE HIT, HIT THE DETACHED GARAGE. I, DID SHE HAVE AN OVERHEAD? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING OVERHEAD. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING UHUH. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. I'M SORRY. SO, YEAH. SO WHERE, SO IN THAT PICTURE THERE, WHERE'S THE GARAGE? SO, UM, THIS IS THE FENCE THAT HE JUST PUT UP? MM-HMM. . AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN HERE OKAY. THE GARAGE IS IN THAT, IN THAT CORNER OF THE SHADOWS CORNER. I COULD SEE IT. OKAY. WELL IT'S INTERESTING TOO 'CAUSE THAT'S LOOK WHERE 1212 IS. YEAH. ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S NOT ON THE BAMBOO, IT'S ON THE ONE THAT'S CONNECT ON SIDE, ON THE OTHER SIDE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND THAT, AND THAT AND THAT. AND THAT'S GOT A FENCE. YEAH. THAT'S ATTACHED, I GUESS. WELL, AND THAT BA FORCE IS TO THE SOUTH. OKAY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. I'M STAND BACK. OKAY. YOU, YOU, YOU HAD A QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS 1212 IS A RENTAL PROPERTY. YES. UM, THE OWNER, THE OWNER WAS THE ONE WHO EMAILED US. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. THE OWNER WAS THE ONE WHO SENT AN EMAIL OPPOSING I SAW THAT. YES. AND THIS IS A RENTED HOUSE. SO THE PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE HOUSE AS A RENTER DID NOT OBJECT. IT WAS THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE THAT OBJECTED. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS FOR MR. SPA. SO, UM, MS. SPA, IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND SHARE ANY COMMENTS AND THEN, UH, HELP US OUT WITH SOME QUESTIONS. YES. MR. CHAIRMAN? YEP. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS EDWIN JOHN SPA, 1214 WILKINS DRIVE. AND I'M OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL STOP, MR. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS THAT, IS THAT HOUSE RENTED NOW AND THE PEOPLE LIVING IN IT? IT IS RENTED AND I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. I CAN'T. OKAY. YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS? IT, IT IS, IT IS RENTED. HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN LIVING IN THAT HOUSE? I'D SAY AROUND SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS NOW. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE NOT OBJECTED TO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, NO. JUST THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS OBJECTED TO MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. THANK YOU MR. ROY. NO, NOTHING, MR. DURBY. SO THE GATE QUESTION WILL BE LOCKED. THE GATES REMAIN LOCKED. UN UNLESS I'M DRIVING BACK INTO THE BACKYARD OR BACK OUT. YES. AND OF COURSE THE GARAGE WILL BE LOCKED AT ALL TIMES. I WOULD SUSPECT THE GARAGE ALWAYS LOCKED. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO WOULD ASK THE QUESTION. THE SECURITY SYSTEM IS IN PLACE? Y IT IS NOT IN PLACE YET. IT'S BEEN ORDERED AND I HAVE IT IN STOCK. I JUST HAVE NOT INSTALLED IT AT THIS POINT, UH, PRIOR TO ACTUALLY BEGINNING THE BUSINESS. IT WILL BE INSTALLED AND WORKING. YEAH. AND, AND, UH, I GUESS GIMME A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF, OF YOUR GETTING INTO THE GUNSMITHING. WELL, THIS IS A LONG STORY. UH, I WAS INTRODUCED TO WEAPONS WHEN I JOINED THE MILITARY AT AGE 17 IN 1975. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AT THAT TIME. I PICKED UP. YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. I PICKED UP AN M 16, A TWO FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND I WAS INCREDIBLY GOOD WITH IT. ACTUALLY. I SCORED HIGH BASIC RIFLE MARKSMANSHIP FOR A COMPANY OF 200 PEOPLE, WHICH IS NOTED ON MY DD TWO 14, WHICH IS ALSO REGISTERED HERE IN THE COUNTY. UM, SINCE THEN I'VE OWNED VARIOUS WEAPONS, NEVER HAD A NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF. MM-HMM. . AND I LIKE TO MAINTAIN SAFE PROCEDURES FOR HANDLING, FOR SHOOTING, FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE WEAPONS ARE SAFE TO USE AS IN NOT TOO DIRTY OR, UM, JAMMING UP OR HAVING, HAVING PROBLEMS. [02:05:01] AND THAT'S WHY I REALLY GOT INTO THE GUNSMITHING PORTION OF THIS WAS I LIKE TO TAKE WEAPONS THAT ARE NOT WORKING AND MAKE 'EM WORK. MM-HMM. . AND I'VE BECOME FAIRLY PROFICIENT AT THAT. GOOD. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER MR. SHEPHERD? NO, I, NO QUESTION TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. MR. SPA, DO YOU HAVE YOUR FFL YET? NO, SIR. I CAN'T GET IT UNTIL I GET YOU GUYS APPROVAL. OKAY. SO YOU GOTTA GET THE ONE. YES, SIR. DUCK ONE. ONE DUCK FOLLOWS THE OTHER. OKAY. UM, DO YOU, DO YOU SEE ANY OBSTACLES, ISSUES OF HAVEN HAVE AN A TF? NO SIR. RELEASE IT TO YOU? NO. OKAY. UM, WHAT TYPE OF GUNSMITHING ARE YOU PLANNING ON SERVICE? ARE YOU PLANNING ON PROVIDING? UH, I'M, I'LL MOSTLY CONCENTRATE ON THE AR 15 PLATFORM. UH, BUILDING CUSTOM WEAPONS AS WELL AS MAINTAINING THEM, MAKING SURE THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL, CHECKING THE HEAD SPACE, MAKE SURE THEY CYCLE PROPERLY. UM, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO EXPAND INTO LIKE THE 19 ELEVENS, THE GLOCKS, THE SMITH AND WESSONS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THE HANDGUNS. UM, I'M NOT QUITE FAMILIAR WITH DOING ANYTHING ON ANY PISTOL EXCEPT FOR THE 1911 AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M LEARNING AS I GO ALONG. ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO ANY MACHINING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE FIREARMS OR DO YOU HAVE THE MACHINE? YES, SIR. I WILL BE TOOLING FOR IT. OKAY. I HAVE SOME TOOLING. I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING I NEED YET. OKAY. UM, WILL YOU BE MANUFACTURING ANY AMMO THERE OR JUST SELLING FACTORY AMMO? I'LL BE MANUFACTURING AMMO FOR MY OWN PURPOSES AND NOT SELLING THAT. OKAY. THAT'S ONLY FOR MYSELF. OKAY. ONE THING I WANNA MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A RETAIL STOP BY BROWSE, SEE WHAT YOU HAVE IN STOCK. NO SIR. TYPE SO, SO EXPLAIN THE FIREARM SALES SIDE OF THE BUSINESS. WHAT'S YOUR CONCEPT THERE? FOR MY PARTICULAR APPLICATION, I WOULD FIRST MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH A POTENTIAL CUSTOMER AND THAT'D MEET WITH THE CUSTOMER AND DISCUSS WHAT HIS WANTS AND NEEDS ARE AND FIGURE OUT IF HE'S ACTUALLY, UM, GONNA BE A GOOD CUSTOMER OR NOT. AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE, THE PIECE THAT I MAKE FOR 'EM OR TAKE CARE, UH, FIXED FOR 'EM. UM, BEFORE SELLING TO ANYONE, I HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD FEELING. NOT ONLY DO I HAVE TO GET THE A TFS PERMISSION TO SELL WITH THE APPLICATION TO THE A TF AND THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE POLICE, BUT I HAVE TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS PERSON'S NOT GONNA BE A, A BAD PERSON. SO IF I GET A BAD FEELING ABOUT SOMEBODY, I'M NOT GONNA SELL 'EM A WEAPON, EVEN IF THEY DO PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK. UM, THAT'S JUST, I I THINK I GOT OFF TOPIC A LITTLE BIT. SORRY. BUT, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON HAVING AN INVENTORY OF FIREARMS THAT YOU'RE GONNA OFFER FOR PEOPLE TO STOP BY, TO BROWSE TO NO, SIR. SELL YOUR, NO, SIR. OKAY. CUSTOM ONE OFFS ONLY. ALRIGHT. AND LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? 10 TO TWO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SIR. SO YES, SIR. ABOUT 20 HOURS A WEEK. YES, SIR. UM, IS THAT ENOUGH FOR A TF TO BE IN OPERATION? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT I'M GONNA PASS IT BY 'EM AND FIND OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND I THINK YOU SAID THE PLAN IS BY APPOINTMENT ONLY AND ONLY ONE CUSTOMER AT A TIME? THAT'S CORRECT. SO AT MOST FIVE CUSTOMERS A DAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE JUST TO GET ANYBODY I WOULD SAY FOUR, BUT BUT YEAH. TO GET ANYBODY IN AND THAT YOU'RE, I'LL BE HONEST, I'LL BE LUCKY IF I GET ONE EVERY TWO WEEKS. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE UPPER LIMIT TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR NEIGHBORS, SO, OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. ALRIGHT. YEAH. UM, I GUESS THERE WAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, MS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT. GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. AND NOW MS. MS. PUSO IS NOW I GOT YOU RIGHT. SHE'S MOVING FORWARD, I ASSUME. MM-HMM, . OKAY. PAM, PLEASE SHOW 1 0 3 KIMBERLY COURT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A FIREARM SHOP BEING SET UP IN A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE OUGHT TO BE A CONCERN ABOUT WHO IS BRINGING A FIREARM FOR REPAIR. ARE THESE WEAPONS LAWFULLY OWNED, STOLEN OR ACQUIRED WITHOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS BY THOSE WHO HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT TO POSSESS THAT FIREARM? HAVING AN ASSORTMENT OF FIREARMS FOR SALE AND REPAIR PUTS THAT BUSINESS AT A GREATER RISK FOR THEFT AND THE CRIMINALS THAT IT MAY ATTRACT. NOW, I REALIZE HE HAS A LOT OF, UM, SAFES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO PROTECT FROM THE THEFT, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP SOMEBODY FROM COMING IN AND TRYING. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE NECESSARILY OF THAT GARAGE DOOR AND MAY BE ATTRACTED BECAUSE THERE ARE FIREARMS IN THAT, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY. UH, THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED WHERE CHILDREN PLAY AND FAMILIES RESIDE. IT SHOULD BE IN A COMMERCIAL AREA FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW THIS BOARD HAS APPROVED SIMILAR REQUESTS IN THE PAST, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT TO CONTINUE THIS PRACTICE. UH, GEORGIA BROOKS, WHO OWNS 1212 [02:10:01] WILKINS DRIVE, HAS EMAILED HIS OBJECTIONS ALLOWING THIS BUSINESS. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TURNING INTO COMMERCIAL SPACES WITH TOURIST HOMES AND BMBS AS WELL AS OTHER BUSINESSES. WE CHOSE TO MOVE INTO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, NOT COMMERCIAL ONES. THE ONLY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IS ONE THAT HAS ZERO ONSITE CUSTOMERS AND NO FREQUENT PRODUCT DELIVERIES. AND I URGE THIS BOARD TO DENY THE PETITIONER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAD SIGN UP FOR. DOES ANYBODY ELSE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ALL 24 DASH 90 APPROVE 24 90. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, BOARD COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MR. ROY? I THINK THIS IS, UH, UM, TYPICAL OF WHAT WE WOULD, UH, ACCEPT OR, UH, OR CONSIDER TO BE A HOME-BASED OCCUPATION. I THINK THE, UH, APPLICANT HAS GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ENSURE THAT SAFETY AND, UH, AND A WELL RUN BUSINESS IS, UH, IS THE OUTCOME WE'RE LOOKING FOR. UM, I'VE SEEN NO REACTION FROM HIS IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. UM, I'D BE INCLINED TO AGREE WITH, UH, WITH, UM, ACCEPTING THIS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. NO, I THINK WHERE IT'S LOCATED IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD BECAUSE, EXCUSE ME, IT IS IN, IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AWAY FROM A MAIN ROAD. IT'S IN A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I HAVE A FEELING IT'S JUST GONNA BE BY WORD OF MOUTH. SO AS LONG AS THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT COME OUT AND OBJECTED TO IT, I WILL NOT OBJECT TO IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK, UM, UH, MS. FATEL ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. UM, UH, I THINK TO MS. PACHE, I THINK, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE GUN SAFES, BUT IT WOULD TAKE A BOMB TO GET IN THAT. I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW EXPECTATIONS. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DEBATE THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, HE'S A, A GUY THAT'S GONNA TAKE SAFETY. HE'S A FORMER MILITARY GUY. I HAVE A HIGH RESPECT FOR THOSE GUYS, AND I THINK, UH, I THINK HE WILL BE CHECKING THESE PEOPLE OUT. UM, AND SO I'M, I'M, I WILL BE IN FAVOR OF IT AS WELL. THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD. YEAH. I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I GUESS MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL THEN. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 90 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREW? YES. MR. RONE? YES. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. [7. Proposed Amendment to York County Code Section 23.1-Wetlands. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-12 to amend Chapter 23.1, Wetlands, of the York County Code, as required by and in accordance with Section 28.2-1302 of the Code of Virginia, 1950. (Part 1 of 2)] ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. UM, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENT. UH, ORDINANCE 24 DASH 12 TO AMEND CHAPTER 23 DASH ONE, WETLANDS OF THE YORK COUNTY CODE AS REQUIRED BY AND ACCORDANCE TO STATE CODE OF VIRGINIA. HELLO. WE GOT, I'M HERE. WE, WE GOT A GUEST SPEAKER. GOOD EVENING. OKAY. I'M HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE 23.1 WETLANDS BOARD. OKAY. UH, I MEAN THE WET WETLANDS OF YORK COUNTY CODE. SO BASICALLY THESE CHANGES ARE TO KEEP OUR ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH, UM, STATE LAW AND MANDATES AS WELL AS BEST PRACTICES. UH, THERE'S BASICALLY THREE ITEMS TO THE CRUX OF THIS, UH, BASIC CHANGES IN DEFINITIONS. SO ONE OF 'EM IS THE, UH, EXPLANATION OF BOUNDARIES PER THE UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, UH, WHICH IDENTIFIES BACK BAY AND NORTH LANDING RIVER. AND ITS, UH, TRIBUTARIES, UH, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE IN THE YORK COUNTY FOOTPRINT, UH, NOTIFICATIONS, UM, AND OUTLINES. NOTIFICATIONS FOR PRINT, UH, SHOULD BE MADE SEVEN DAYS AND 14 DAYS FOR OUR WEBSITE BEFORE ANY HEARINGS AT OUR BOARD. UM, AND THEN A RELATIVELY, UM, NEW APPROACH FOR ADDRESSING EROSION AND, AND STABILIZATION OF SHORELINES. UH, SUSTAINABLE SOFT SOLUTION WOULD BE DEFINING WHAT A LIVING SHORELINE IS. UM, IS AN, UH, AND IT IS, IT'S AN APPROVED ALLOWABLE USE UNDER THE, THE NEW OUTLINE OF THE CODE. AND, UH, THE LIVING SHORELINE SHOULD BE, UH, CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL ADDITION TO EACH NEW PROJECT OR WETLAND BOARD CONSIDERS, AND AGAIN, IT'S CHANGES, UH, KEEP OUR ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH STATE MANDATES. SO, ANY QUESTIONS OR, ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. KRIEGER? ANYONE? DO YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE ANOTHER [02:15:01] NAME FOR LIVING SHORELINE? YOU SAID YOU GAVE IT A NAME. I DON'T SEE THE DEFINITION IN HERE. ANOTHER NAME FOR, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD BE UNDER A LIVING. I MEAN, I, I DO HAVE A, UH, WETLANDS BOARD SPECIALIST HERE, MR. KENT HENKEL. I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, WHEN THEY MAKE THESE KIND OF CHANGES, WHO KNOW, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE, UH, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THE LOW MEAN TIDE TO THE HIGH MEAN TIDE. DID THEY? THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON, ON THE, UH, WETLANDS. YEAH. THERE ISN'T ANOTHER NAME FOR LIVING SHORELINE. IT SHOULD BE IN THE DEFINITIONS. THAT'S ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT WAS ADDED. OKAY. I'M NOT GONNA MAKE AN ISSUE OUT. I JUST WANTED, I I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT THE NAME WAS. I MEAN, WHAT THE, WHAT IT, WHAT IT MEANS BY THAT DEFINITION, OR WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YEAH. WELL, A I GUESS A, A LIVING SHORELINE WOULD BE A, SO A LINE, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE SOFT SOLUTION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS TERRACING YEAH. NATIVE PLANTS. UH, OYSTER. THEY PUT OYSTERS IN A BAG AND YOU CAN KIND OF BREAK WHAT I'M GONNA CALL OUR TERM LOW ENERGY TIDE. WELL, I WOULD THINK A NON, IT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE OF A NON-LIVING SHORELINE WOULD BE, I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, SOMETHING THAT YOU, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD CALL A HARD SOLUTION. YEAH. HARD. YEAH. THE HARD, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANNA DO. SO LIKE, RIP WRAP BULK. THE STATE WANTS TO GO AWAY FROM BULKHEADS AND REVETMENTS. THEY WANT ROCK SEALS WITH SAND BEHIND IT AND PLANTING WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT IT ON YORK POINT OR BAY BECAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA GET WASHED AWAY. BUT THEY WANT THE BIOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE ROCKS AND LIVE AND NOT JUST DRAW A LINE AND HARDEN IT. WHERE, WHERE APPROPRIATE IS THE KEY PHRASE. 'CAUSE SOME PLACES, YEAH. SO I, I'LL GIVE YOU EXAMPLE OF, UH, ONE KEY AREA WE PUT. WE, UH, ADDED A LIVING SHORELINE AT THE BACK OF BAT CREEK PARK SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ADDED SOME NATIVE PLANTS. IT'S A LOW ENERGY AREA. WE PUT SOME, UH, OYSTER SHELLS ABOVE, UH, AROUND IT. AND IT WAS ENOUGH OF A SOLUTION TO KEEP THE EROSION FROM CONTINUING BEHIND BAT CREEK PARK. IF YOU GO THERE AND PLAY PICKLEBALL, YOU'LL SEE THE RESTROOM BUILDING. JUST KEEP ON WALKING RIGHT BACK AND THERE'S A LIVING SHORELINE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, MR. SHEPHERD? ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. UM, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP. DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO COME SPEAK TO IT? ALRIGHT. CNNI WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. YES. BEFORE YOU VOTE ON WHAT YES. BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS, I, I WOULD ASK, PLEASE, MIKE, I WOULD ASK IF, UM, SOMEBODY COULD PLEASE VERIFY THAT THE VERSION THAT'S IN THE PACKET IS CORRECT. 'CAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE A DEFINITION OF LIVING SHORELINE. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS VOTING ON THE CORRECT VERSION OF THIS. SO PERHAPS YOU COULD PASS IT OVER FOR A MOMENT. IT SHOULD APPEAR IN BLUE, JUST BELOW GOVERNMENT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. GOOD EVENING. . IT SHOULD BE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE IT WAS IN THE, I, I, I SEE IT HERE. HIKL. THE IN BLUE CONSTRUCTION OF LIVING SHORELINE PROJECTS, AUTHORIZED PROJECTS PURSUANT TO A GENERAL PERMIT DEVELOPED UNDER SECTION MM-HMM. , BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. UM, A STATEMENT INDICATING WHETHER THE, WHETHER USE OF A LIVING SHORELINE IS DEFINED IN SECTION 23 DASH 12. SO I GUESS 23 DASH 12 TALKS TO WHAT A LIVING SHORELINE IS. MM-HMM, SECTION 23. THE VERSION THAT'S IN THE, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHAT VERSION YOU'RE LOOKING WITH. THE VERSION I HAVE DOES NOT HAVE THAT. I'M ON THE ONLINE AGENDA. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. AND THAT'S, I GOT THE, IF YOU GO TO PAGE, THE DEFINITIONS IN SECTION 23 1 1 OKAY. DASH TWO MEMBERS OF ONE THE BOARD. IF I MAY. GOOD EVENING. WE CAN SIMPLY ADOPT THIS AS AN R. IT BELONGS TO THE DEFINITIONS SECTION FOLLOWING GOVERNMENT. IT'S 20. IT'S ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR BOOK, OF YOUR PACKET AFTER GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITY AND BEFORE NON VEGITATIVE WETLANDS. IT IS A DEFINITION AS DEFINED AS CREATED BY THE STATE LEVEL. AND IT INVOLVES REPLACING STRUCTURES SUCH AS BULKHEADS AND RIP WRAP WITH, UM, SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PLANTS, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE OYSTER SHELLS, WHERE YOU CAN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR FISH AND OTHER MARINE ANIMALS. BUT IT DOES BELONG. COULD YOU JUST STATE, JUST READ, READ THE DEFINITION AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO READ, PLEASE. SO WE CAN HAVE IT FOR YES. THE PURPOSES OF ADDING IT INTO THE R UH, I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE JUST SAID. [02:20:01] I'M GONNA ASK TO JUST, WELL, LET'S SEE. THIS LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE VERSION THAT I LAST SAW, SO I'M GONNA ASK TO PASS JUST FOR A MOMENT WHILE I GET IT AND I CAN COME UP AFTER THE NEXT, 'CAUSE THAT ONE, IT IS NOT. OKAY. PUT THIS THE MATERIALS THAT I HAVE AS WELL. AND I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT FOUR OR FIVE, SIX TIMES. SO LET ME JUST GET IT FOR YOU. SO WE JUST JUMP TO THE NEXT ONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. WE'LL PUT [8. Creation of Code Section Chapter 15, Article V. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-10 to create Chapter 15, Article V of the Code of Ordinances of the County of York, Virginia to authorize the York County School Board to install and operate a videomonitoring system in or on school buses operated by the Division. ] OUR FINGER ON THIS AS A PLACEHOLDER, AND THEN WE WILL JUMP OVER TO CREATION. UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CREATION OF CODE SECTION 15, ARTICLE FIVE, ORDINANCE 24 DASH 10, UM, TO AUTHORIZE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO INSTALL AND OPERATE VIDEO, VIDEO MONITOR SYSTEM IN OR ON SCHOOL BUSES OPERATED BY THE DIVISION. SO, MR. HILL, I BELIEVE YOU GONNA SPEAK TO US ABOUT THIS. UH, YES SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZE THE USE OF VIDEO MONITORING ON THE BUSES, ON SCHOOL BUSES. UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, IN PLACE IN OUR, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY. IT'S, I GUESS I DESCRIBE IT AS THE COMPANION TO THE, WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY IN THE RED LIGHT ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL ZONES. AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD IN, IT WOULD ALLOW THE SCHOOL DIVISION TO INSTALL CAMERAS ON SCHOOL BUSES THAT WOULD THEN, UH, MONITOR PEOPLE AS THEY, AS THEY PASS THE SCHOOL BUSES. THE PROGRAM WOULD BE, UH, MO WOULD BE, UM, IMPLEMENTED IN, UM, AND, UM, CARRIED OUT BY THE SCHOOL DIVISION AS OPPOSED TO THE RED LIGHT SPEED PROGRAM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, UH, IN MO TAKEN CARE OF BY OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HOWEVER, AS WOULD THAT PROGRAM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT, UM, IN THIS PROGRAM THAT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BE INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THE CITATIONS MM-HMM. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN FACT CITATIONS BEFORE THEY, THEY GET SENT OUT. SO THE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU SAID THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT RED LIGHT. IT'S THE FLASHING LIGHTS. SPEED, SPEED ENFORCEMENT. SPEED ENFORCEMENT LIGHTS. A YELLOW ACTUALLY PHOTO, PHOTO RED IS WHAT IS WHAT? THE ONE THAT WE DID BEFORE IT'S PHOTO. THAT'S THE CAMERAS WITH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CAMERAS IN THE SPEED ZONE. SPEED ZONE. MM-HMM. . YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT THE, WHAT I'M, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. I JUST SAID IT'S, BUT I, BECAUSE YOU KEEP, WELL, YOU REFER TO THAT IS, THAT'S CALLED RED PHOTO. RED. RED PHOTO RED. WHY IS IT CALLED PHOTO RED? OKAY. ANYWAY, SO, OKAY. SO THIS IS NOW ON THE BUS? CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTUALLY REVIEWS THIS, UH, THERE. THEY, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT SWORN DEPUTIES ARE, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REVIEW THE CITATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND CERTIFY THEM BEFORE A CITATION IS ISSUED. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL BUS INSIDE THE SCHOOL BUS. WHAT CITATIONS ISSUED? SO THIS CAMERA GOES OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL BUS. AND WHEN A PERSON PASSES THE SCHOOL, THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY THE INSIDE THE BUS. NO, I'M THINKING, OKAY, I'VE GOT CONFUSED THEN. I'M SORRY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. I THOUGHT THERE WERE TWO COMPONENTS. THERE IS A CAMERA THAT GOES ON THE SWING ARM OR ON THE, ON THE, UM, THE LITTLE STOP SIGN THAT SWINGS OUT. SWING STOP SIGN. THERE'S A CAMERA TO CATCH ANYBODY SPEEDING BY. BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS ALSO A COMPONENT AND INSTALLED CAMERAS INSIDE. SO THAT ACTIVITY ON THE BUS COULD BE MONITORED AS WELL? OR IS THAT NOT THE CASE? 'CAUSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED ORIGINALLY. THAT MAY BE MR. BE MAYBE CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THAT MAY BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT THE STATE CODE IS REQUIRED TO AUTHORIZE. OKAY. SO, ALRIGHT. SO, SO THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST FOR OKAY. HAVE EASY ME , I I'M SORRY. I WAS GONNA LET YOU GO . I I I WAS ALMOST THERE. WELL, I'LL LET YOU, I DID HAPPEN TO WATCH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING AND DR. CAROL'S PRESENTATION OF THE USE OF THESE CAMERAS. AND YOU ARE CORRECT. IT DOES INCLUDE INTERIOR CAMERAS OF THE BUS IN ADDITION TO THE ONE ON THE SWING ARM IS STOPS. OKAY. ALL WE ARE CONSIDERING IS THE SWING ARM ON STOP. CORRECT. AS MR. HILL POINTS OUT, THAT IS THE ISSUE FOR US. RIGHT. GOTCHA. SO THIS, THEY MAY, THEY MAY CHOOSE A VENDOR OR A PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND MONITORING, BUT WHAT, WHICH THEY CAN DO WITHOUT, WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO US FOR APPROVAL. THIS IS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT OF STATE CODE THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE APPROVAL TO DO THIS PROGRAM. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS DESIGNED FOR. OKAY. SO CAN I BRING UP A POINT? YEP. THEN IF I READ THIS, WELL, I'M SORRY, IT'S AN ORDINANCE . IT SAYS, YEAH, IT'S AN ORDINANCE. YEAH. IT SAYS TO CREATE A CHAPTER 15 BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. THE COUNTY ORDINANCE OF VIRGINIA TO AUTHORIZE YOUR COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO INSTALL AND OPERATE A VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM IN OR ON [02:25:01] THE SCHOOL BUS. BUT WE'RE NOT, THE WAY I READ THIS WAS, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A VIDEO CAMERA. OBVIOUSLY IN THE BUS. I DON'T WHEN SAY ON THE BUS. I, I CAN UNDERSTAND. SPEEDING. PASS THE SIGN COMING OUT. I'LL MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU MR. SHEPHERD. I MEAN, THAT LANGUAGE IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE CODE. YEAH. THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGE. I MEAN, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE STATE CODE USES THE LANGUAGE IN OR ON THE SCHOOL BUSES. OKAY. I, THE ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS I, YOU CLARIFIED IT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST FOCUSING ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUS, BUT IT'S BOAT. BUT THIS IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUS. BUT THEN I READ IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE IN OR OUTSIDE THE BUS. DON'T, DON'T GET WRAPPED UP ABOUT THAT. THAT I'M NOT WRAPPED UP ABOUT IT. I'M READY, I'M READY TO VOTE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY CAN PUT THE, THEY CAN PUT THAT CAMERA ANYWHERE INSIDE RIGHT SIDE TO LOOK AT THAT. SO, OKAY. KIDS ROOM. ALRIGHT, SO OPEN THE BOARD. ALRIGHT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE INTO BOARD OF QUESTIONS. SO MR. SHEPHERD, I THINK YOU'RE GOOD. MS. MR. DRURY, ANYTHING? NOPE. MR. DOLE. KEEP MOVING. MR. ROY? YES, SIR. HAVE ONE REQUEST. UM, SAYS ANY CIVIL PENALTY LEVIED FOR VIOLATION SHALL BE PAYABLE TO THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. AND I'M BACK TO THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THE CAMERAS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. UH, I DON'T LIKE SEEING MONEY BEING ADDED TO THE COFFERS. IF IT ISN'T, IT IS JUST SEEN AS A TAX GRAB. YOU COULD AND, AND I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT. I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE UTILIZE THE MONEY THAT'S GENERATED FROM THESE FINES TO PAY FOR OUR SROS, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. UM, AND THAT, THAT THAT MONEY, UH, GO TOWARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, A BETTERMENT IN, IN SAFETY SYSTEMS FOR THE SCHOOLS. UM, THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH MR. SHANDLER TODAY. HE'S EX HE'S, UH, QUITE FINE WITH THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION. SO WE'D HAVE TO MAKE AN R. UM, I TALKED TO MR. MONTGOMERY TODAY, THE SHERIFF, UM, THE, THE, THE MONEY USED, UM, IN THIS BUDGET IS ALSO, UH, UTILIZED TO PAY FOR THE OFFICER'S TIME TO REVIEW ANY CAMERA VIOLATIONS BEFORE ISSUING A CITATION. THE SCHOOL HAS AGREED TO PAY FOR THAT, BUT THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY USE FUNDING, UH, TO PAY FOR THE OFFICER. SO, SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT A COMBINATION OF PAYING FOR THE OFFICER TO REVIEW, UH, THE, UM, THE VIOLATIONS AND MONEY DIRECTED TO THE SRO WOULD BE MY REQUEST IN THIS ORDINANCE. SO I WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST A, UH, A REVISION TO THIS TO INCLUDE THAT. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND THE EXISTING PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO REDIRECT ANY FINES TO PAYING FOR OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND FOR THE DEPUTY'S TIME TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ISSUE THE CITATIONS. OKAY. YES. OKAY. WHICH WOULD I DO NOT? 1571 B HANG ON, HOLD ON. OKAY. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN. UH, MR. HORO, UM, WE HAD THE AUTHORITY AS A BOARD WHEN WE APPROPRIATE MONEY TO, OR THE BOARD DOES NOT. THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROPRIATE MONEY TO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION, WHICH WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME. THE STATE STATUTE THOUGH SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT WE, UM, MAY DIRECT THAT THE CIVIL PENALTY, UH, SHALL BE PAYABLE TO THE SCHOOL, LOCAL SCHOOL DIVISION, WHICH I INTERPRET AS MEANING THAT IT'S PAYABLE GENERALLY TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION. AND ORDINARILY MONEY THAT IS RECEIVED AND APPROPRIATED TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION BY STATE LAW AND THERE'S ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS AND CASE LAW ON THIS, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE HOW THAT MONEY IS, IS ALLOCATED. UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, SO WE DON'T RUN AFOUL OF THE, THE WAY THE STATE STATUTE PROVIDES FOR THIS PROGRAM, THAT WE, WE NOT PUT ANY SUCH RESTRICTION ON IT. IF THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS GOING TO RESPECT THOSE CHOICES, PERHAPS WE COULD ADD A A WHEREAS CLAUSE TO SAY, WHEREAS THE BOARD WOULD REQUEST THAT THE MONEY BE SPENT, UH, FOR THAT. BUT I WOULD, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ADDING IT AS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE REASONS THAT I SUGGESTED I'D BE HAPPY WITH A WHEREAS WHAT CAN I KIND OF RAISE THE POINT WITH AN ATTORNEY ON THIS? MM-HMM. . SO IN THE, WHEN WE, UH, APPROPRIATE MONEY FOR THE SCHOOLS, OKAY. I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T TELL 'EM HOW TO SPEND IT. THEY GOT FOUR. WELL, YOU CAN PUT IT IN CATEGORIES. THERE'S CATEGORIES. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S LIKE CATEGORIES. THERE'S LIKE FOUR CATEGORIES WE CAN PUT IT IN. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. BUT IN GENERAL, THOSE ARE PRETTY BROAD CATEGORIES. THAT'S RIGHT. VERY BROAD. SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT IT SAYS PAYABLE TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION. UM, I MEAN, YOU COULD EVEN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THE MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO THEM AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THE APPROPRIATION. I KNOW THAT WOULD BE MY, THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT THEY DON'T REALLY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT. BUT I WOULD SAY, DOUG, THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT DR. SHANDOR WOULD, YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED [02:30:01] TO SUPPORTIVE AND HE'S FULLY SUPPORTIVE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE AS INDIVIDUALS WOULD JUST TALK TO DR. SHANDOR AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD SAY. AND HE GETS TO CHOOSE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT TREADING, WE'RE NOT TREADING ON THEIR WATER. FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST MAKE CLEAR, THE STATE CODE GIVES US A CHOICE OF YES OR NO. PROVIDING THE FUNDING TO THE SCHOOLS OR PROVIDING THE FUNDING TO THE SCHOOLS IS BASICALLY WHAT THE STATE CODE IS. ALRIGHT. GIVE US A CHOICE. I I HAVE A BLACK CAR. I HAVE A BLACK CAR. THAT'S, ANY CAR WAS AS LONG AS IT'S BLACK CAR. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I'D RAISE, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL IN SUPPORT OF IT. UH, WE NEEDED TO BE DOING SOMETHING TO, UH, STOP VEHICLES PASSING OUR BUSES THERE. NO QUESTION. IT'S OBVIOUS ON THE ROADS. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES IN FRONT OF ME. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO, SO, BUT YOU DO WANT TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ADD AWARE AS TO REQUEST THAT THE SCHOOLS CONSIDER, LET'S JUST GO THROUGH DR. SHANDOR. I'LL GO THROUGH DR. SHANDOR. I'LL MAKE THE REQUEST. MAKE IT EASY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I GUESS, SO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, DO WE KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME MODEL AS THE SPEED CAMERAS AND THAT THE VENDOR WILL OWN, INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THE CAMERA EQUIPMENT? AND WE, I I, I, I CAN'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION. I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ALREADY CONTACTED AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT POSSIBLE DIFFERENT VENDORS ON THAT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE PARTICULARS OF HOW IT WORKS. UM, THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MODEL FOR HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE WORKING BECAUSE IT GIVES THE VENDORS AN INCENTIVE. RIGHT. BUT I, I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK EXACTLY TO HOW, HOW THEY WERE CHAIRMAN. MR. BELLA MAY KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PRESENTATION THEY DID IS, IS EXACTLY THAT. NOW, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY FINALLY END UP WITH, IF THAT'S THE COMPANY THAT THEY USE, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. BUT THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY DID ON THIS PROJECT DOES, IS USED LIKE THAT WHERE THEY GET THE, THEY GET THE EQUIPMENT AT NO CHARGE. THE COMPANY'S TAKING A CUT OF THE CIVIL PENALTY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I'M NOW READY TO OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND MS. MS. ER, YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS ONE ALSO? YES. AMOO SHOW STILL AT 1 0 3. KIMBERLY? UH, THIS APPLICATION IS NOT ONLY TO INSTALL EXTERIOR CAMERAS ON SCHOOL BUSES TO DISCOURAGE OR CATCH MOTORISTS WHO DO NOT STOP WHEN A SCHOOL BUS IS PICKING UP OR DISCHARGING STUDENTS. I DO APPLAUD THE EXTERIOR CAMERAS AS THERE ARE MOTORISTS WHO DO NOT SEEM TO WANT TO BE INCONVENIENCED BY A STOP SCHOOL BUS AND PASS THEM WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE CHILDREN'S SAFETY. HOWEVER, THIS APPLICATION GOES FURTHER AND ALLOWS THE INSTALLATION OF CAMERAS IN THE INTERIOR OF THE BUS. DO YOU WANNA POINT OUT THAT I WAS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT AND THEY DID, UH, STATE THAT THEY WOULD BE INSTALLING CAMERAS ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES. THAT THEY HAVE TENTATIVELY CHOSEN OUR LIVES AND PRIVATE, UH, PRIVACY HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY ERODED BY CAMERAS. AT THE MOMENT, WE DO NOT ALLOW VIDEO CAMERAS IN CLASSROOMS. HOW IS A CAMERA IN THE BUS ANY DIFFERENT WITH THIS? OUR STUDENTS WILL BE UNDER LAW ENFORCEMENT OBSERVATION WHENEVER THEY ENTER A BUS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. AND I URGE YOU TO MODIFY THIS ORDINANCE IF YOU CAN, TO ONLY ALLOW CAMERAS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUSES SO WE CAN RESPECT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRIVACY FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND I REALIZE RIGHT NOW IT IS ILLEGAL TO NOT JUST STOP FOR, UH, A STOP SCHOOL BUS. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ARE THE ABILITY TO TAKE PICTURES OF WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING IT. PERHAPS THE SCHOOL BUS DRIVER MIGHT IF LUCKILY CATCH A, A LICENSE PLATE. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT. SO THE EXTERIOR MAKES SENSE. THE INTERIOR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DIVIDE THAT OUT OR NOT, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, PLEASE RECOMMEND TO THEM TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION NOT TO BE PHOTOGRAPHING OUR KIDS IN THOSE BUSES. I DON'T LIKE IT. I DO NOT. AND IF IT COMES DOWN TO, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A CAMERA IN THE BUS, CAN THEY HAVE AN ON OFF SWITCH SO THAT THE BUS DRIVER ONLY TURNS IT ON WHEN THERE IS SOME FORM OF ALTERCATION OR A PROBLEM WITHIN THE BUS? UH, BUT NOT AS A STANDARD PRACTICE. I WOULDN'T WANT MY KIDS BEING PHOTOGRAPHED CONTINUALLY. I THINK IT'S JUST WRONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME SPEAK TO THIS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HERE, SEE YOU NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR, DID YOU SAY I, I CAN ADD IT IN DISCUSSION. LET TO ADDRESS, UM, THE, THE, THE POINT THAT WAS JUST MADE, THE, THE STATUTE THAT'S AT ISSUE HERE IS STATE CODE 46.2 8 44, [02:35:01] WHICH IS, WHICH PROVIDES THE, THE STATE STATUTORY PROHIBITION AGAINST, UH, PASSING A SCHOOL BUS. AND THIS IS CONTAINED WITHIN THAT. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE VIDEO PROGRAM AND THE AUTHORIZATION THAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS TO ALLOW THEM TO RECORD VIOLATIONS OF THESE, OF SOMEBODY PASSING MM-HMM. . AND IT PROVIDES A MECHANISM TO DO THAT. IT IT, IT HAS NOT, IT DOESN'T SPEAK, THIS STATUTE DOESN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH PEOPLE INSIDE THE SCHOOL BUS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THE LANGUAGE THAT IT USES IS THAT, UH, A LOCALITY MAY AUTHORIZE THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM IN OR ON THE SCHOOL BUSES FOR THE PURPOSE OF, OF RECORDING VIOLATIONS OF THE PARTICULAR CODE SECTION. I, I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THE ISSUE AND LOOK AT IT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY, THAT THIS HAD, THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS OUR PERMISSION OR APPROVAL TO INSTALL CAMERAS INSIDE THE SCHOOL BUSES FOR MONITORING PURPOSES. 'CAUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. I THINK THE REASON IT SAYS ENTER ON IS BECAUSE IT GIVES THE VENDORS FLEXIBILITY FOR WHERE THEY PUT THE CAMERAS. AND THEY MIGHT, THEY MIGHT PUT 'EM INSIDE THE BUS OR ON THE BUS. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO AUTHORIZE THEM. IF A VENDOR HAPPENS TO PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT THEY PUT CAMERAS INSIDE THE BUSES AS WELL. THAT'S, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING AFFECTED BY THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS ORDINANCE IS GIVEN THE SCHOOL THE ABILITY TO INSTALL CAMERAS, TO, TO CATCH TRAFFIC VIOLATORS, PERIOD. THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING. BUT WE CAN TAKE MRS. BOUCHER'S CONCERNS FORWARD TO OUR COUNTERPARTS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT HOW THE INTERIOR OF THE BUS IS BEING MONITORED AND, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE CONSIDERING THAT THOUGH, SO WE CAN RIGHT. BUT THE ORDINANCE IS JUST FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, WELL THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. SO I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION. I'LL MOVE ORDINANCE 24 DASH 10. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY BOARD COMMENTS? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOW IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 10 AND TO CREATE CHAPTER 25, ARTICLE FIVE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE COUNTY OF YORK, VIRGINIA TO AUTHORIZE THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO INSTALL, OPERATE A VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM IN OR ON SCHOOL BUSES. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. KNOLL? YES. MR. DRURY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. R? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ARE [7. Proposed Amendment to York County Code Section 23.1-Wetlands. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-12 to amend Chapter 23.1, Wetlands, of the York County Code, as required by and in accordance with Section 28.2-1302 of the Code of Virginia, 1950. (Part 2 of 2)] WE READY TO GO BACK TO THE WETLANDS? ARE YOU READY TO GO? OKAY. ARE READY TO GO BACK TO THE WETLANDS. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US THE DEFINITION FOR A 11 SHORELINE THAT WILL BE INSERTED. YES SIR. IT WILL BE INSERTED IN THE DEFINITION SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE FOLLOWING GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITY. AND WELL, LET'S GET BACK, HANG ON A SECOND. LET'S JUST GET BACK TO THE ORDINANCE HERE. OKAY. SO YES SIR. WHICH ONE ARE WE DEALING WITH? THIS IS, UH, 24 12. YES SIR. OKAY. FILE NUMBER SEVEN IS EVERYTHING ELSE CORRECT? EVERYTHING ELSE IS CORRECT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS POINT AT SECTION 23.1 DASH TWO. OKAY. DEFINITIONS. AND I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO ABOUT MIDWAY DOWN YOU'LL SEE A DEFINITION FOR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITY. AND THEN BELOW THAT, NON VEGITATIVE WETLANDS. WE DO NEED, UH, BY POINT OF REVISION THIS EVENING TO INSERT THE STATE MANDATED DEFINITION FOR LIVING SHORELINE THAT READS AS FOLLOWS, PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2220 8.2 DASH OH FOUR 1A LIVING SHORELINE MEANS A SHORELINE MANAGEMENT PRACTICE THAT PROVIDES EROSION CONTROL AND WATER QUALITY BENEFITS, PROTECTS, RESTORES OR ENHANCES NATURAL SHORELINE HABITAT AND MAINTAINS COASTAL PROCESSES THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLACEMENT OF PLANTS, STONE, SAND FILL AND OTHER STRUCTURAL AND ORGANIC MATERIALS. WHEN PRACTICABLE, A LIVING SHORELINE MAY ENHANCE COASTAL RESILIENCE AND ATTENUATION OF WAVE ENERGY AND STORM SURGE, UH, THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY DELETED SOMEHOW FROM YOUR BLUE ADDITION IN THE DEF IN THE DEFINITION SECTION. OKAY. EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE APPEARS TO BE AN ORDER. AND JUST IN CASE WE ALL LOST TRACK WITH THE BACK AND FORTH, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY ADDING THREE DEFINITIONS, TWO OF WHICH SIMPLY DESCRIBE LOCATIONS ON THE, UH, NATIONAL GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. QUADRANGLE SHEETS. THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF YORK COUNTY, BUT ARE REQUIRED TO BE LISTED IN ALL THE WETLANDS ORDINANCES, LIVING SHORELINE. AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL BE REVISING OUR APPLICATION PROCESS TO INCLUDE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER A LIVING SHORELINE IS AN APPROPRIATE DEVICE IN EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD. DOES NOT MEAN THAT EACH PROJECT WILL NEED TO HAVE ONE, [02:40:01] BUT IT MEANS THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT. AND OUR NOTICE PROVISIONS WILL ALLOW FOR WEBSITE NOTICE AS WELL AS THE TRADITIONAL PRINT. AND THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT, UH, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA IS REQUIRING EACH LOCALITY TO MAKE IF THEY CHOOSE TO HAVE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT WETLAND ORDINANCE AS WE DO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE'RE ADDING THE DEFINITION YOU JUST WENT THROUGH IN SECTION 23.1 DASH TWO. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT IN, IN THAT ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON. YES, SIR. ALONG WITH THE OTHER CHANGES THAT MR. KRINER AND I BOTH DESCRIBED, THOSE ARE ALREADY TYPED IN YOUR ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE IN, THEY'RE ALL BLUE LINES IN BLUE. YES, SIR. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 12 R WITH THE ADDITION OF LIVING SHORELINE DEFINITION INCLUDED. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANY ANY BOARD COMMENTS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. CAN I GET A POINT OF ORDER? WHO IS THE MOTION MADE BY? I DID. THANK YOU. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROY IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 12 R TO AMEND CHAPTER 23.1. WETLANDS OF THE YORK COUNTY CODE AS REQUIRED BY AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AS AMENDED. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. HORO? YES. MR. ROH? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. [9. County Code Amendment - Chapter 15, Article II. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-11 to amend Chapter 15, Article II of the Code of Ordinances of the County of York, Virginia to state that the provisions of that article do not apply to any motor vehicle, trailer, and semitrailer normally garaged, stored, or parked in the County as of January 1, 2024 and every year thereafter.. ] ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. OOPS. AND, UM, OOPS. OOPS. THAT WAS SEVEN. THAT WAS SEVEN. WE DID EIGHT. NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE UP. NOW WE'RE TO NINE SEVEN. JUST, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, THE OTHER ORDINANCE WILL SQUARED AWAY. LET'S GO TO, UM, KIND ANOTHER KIND OF CODE AMENDMENT. CHAPTER 15, ARTICLE TWO, ROSE ORDINANCE 24 DASH 12. DO AMEND, AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO STATE THAT THE PROVISIONS OF THE, OF THAT ARTICLE DO NOT APPLY TO ANY MOTOR VEHICLE TRAILER AND SEMI-TRAILER NORMALLY GARAGE STORED OR PARKED IN THE COUNTY AS OF THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER. MM-HMM. . MR. HILL, YOU GONNA SPEAK TO US ABOUT THIS? YEAH. I, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL A CLEANUP ORDINANCE. WHEN THE BOARD, UH, PASSED THE, UH, A BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A EXPRESSED INTENTION TO ELIMINATE THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD, UH, ACCOMPLISH THAT AND ALSO, UH, RETAIN THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE FOR PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS WHERE THAT FEE WAS, WAS BILLED AND IS DELINQUENT AND SOMEBODY WOULD STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR IT. BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD ELIMINATE IT FOR THIS YEAR AND FUTURE YEARS. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I, ANYONE? ALRIGHT. UH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE NO ONE SIGN UP FOR IT. DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALL RIGHT. C NNN, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. THANK YOU MR. SHEPHERD. ANY COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD? ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH 11 TO AMEND CHAPTER 13, ARTICLE TWO OF THE CODE ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY OF YORK, VIRGINIA. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. HORO? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. R? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ITEM [10. Establish Salaries for Members of the York County Board of Supervisors. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-8 to establish the salaries of members of the York County Board of Supervisors effective July 1, 2023. ] NUMBER 10, GOTTA GET PAID. ESTABLISH SALARIES FOR MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, FOR ORDINANCE 24 S EIGHT TO ESTABLISH SALARIES OF MEMBERS OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2024. MR. HILL, I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP AGAIN. UM, I BELIEVE MR. BELLAMY IS, WELL THIS SAYS CALLING RICHARD HILL, BUT I'LL GO WITH MR. BELLAMY , MR. CHAIRMAN FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. UH, THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST THEIR SALARIES IN THIS INSTANCE. UM, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO THIS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD ADJUST THEIR SALARY BY 5%, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY CODE AS AN INFLATION ADJUSTMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. QUESTIONS FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, BUT I'LL MAKE A COMMENT HERE. I HAVE A COMMENT HERE. OKAY. AFTER TWO YEARS, AFTER 20 SOME YEARS OF DOING THIS, MIKE, OKAY. AFTER 20 SOME YEARS OF DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE KIND OF, KIND OF BOTHERS ME IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PARTICIPATE AND WANNA COME UP HERE AND GO THROUGH THE CAMPAIGNING AND ALL THIS STUFF. AND, AND I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT WOULD IT BE OF VALUE TO CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY IF THEY, IF WE GOT PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE [02:45:01] ABLE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE OF THEY COULD GET US A LITTLE BIT OF A SALARY OUT OF THIS, THIS 70 WHATEVER WE GET ON AVERAGE ROUGHLY IS ABOUT 7,500, I THINK. AND THAT'S WHAT WE GET. AND, UH, AND, AND IS IT THAT MUCH? IT'S ABOUT 7,500. OKAY. BUT, UH, AND THAT IT HELPS TO FRAY. IT'S NOT EVEN A SALARY THAT'S DEFINED IN HERE. UM, HOWEVER, I WANTED TO ASK, I'M GOING KIND OF DIVERT HERE. SO IF, IF WE'RE NOT PAID A SALARY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO BE ON THE INSURANCE IN THE COUNTY IF WE'RE NOT SALARIED EMPLOYEES? NO. SOFTBALLS FROM YOU. . WELL, THE REASON I SAW THAT IN YOUR NOTE, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SAID IT'S NOT A SALARY. SO THEA IS, ARE WE ALLOWED TO, THEREA TELLS US THAT YOU CAN, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING. YEP. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. SOLVED THAT PROBLEM THEN. I'M JUST, 'CAUSE WE HAD PREVIOUS, UH, SUPERVISORS THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT. YES, THEY DID. WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING, BUT, OKAY. SO I JUST, I, AT SOME, SOME PLACES, FOR EXAMPLE, I ONLY USE FAIRFAX COUNTY 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE WHOPPING BIG COUNTIES. THE, AT ONE TIME THEIR SALARY FOR A SUPERVISOR THAT WAS 75,000 A YEAR. NOW I UNDER, NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY HAVE ASSISTANTS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE AND, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE, THEIR, THEIR THEIR, UM, THEIR BUDGET IS LIKE 3 BILLION PLUS. OKAY. SO IT'S QUITE A BIT. SO I, I SEE THIS, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AS, AS SOMEBODY TOWARDS THE END OF MY TERM, MY TERM TIME AS A SUPERVISOR. AND I THINK OF ALL THESE YEARS, AND I THINK OF THE FUTURE SUPERVISORS THAT ARE COMING IN, AND I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO THAT SUPERVISORS SERVING IN A POSITION, UM, THAT, THAT I THINK IT WOULD COVER AT LEAST SOME OF THE, THE, THE LARGE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN THE COUNTY. AND I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. AND I, I HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. I THINK THAT THE JOB THAT WE DO HERE, THE COUNTY IS SMALL. IT, IT IS SERVICE. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US GO INTO THIS JOB THINKING THAT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE AN EARNING WAGE, IF YOU WILL. BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO SERVE THE CITIZENS HERE IN YORK COUNTY. AND I DON'T THINK THE AMOUNT THAT WE EARN HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. AND I'VE ALWAYS VOTED AGAINST RAISING THE FEE. SO I DON'T THINK, THAT'S NOTHING NEW FOR ME. AND I JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW. I HERE WE'VE, WE'VE TAXES HAVE BEEN RAISED. WE, WE'VE CUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN'T SEE US RAISING OUR INCOME AT A TIME WHEN, WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE HURTING. SO THAT'S JUST THE WAY I STAND. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, ANNUAL SALARY FOR YOU RIGHT NOW IS $9,000. THE, UH, VICE CHAIRMAN GETS TEN TWO AND THE CHAIR GETS TEN EIGHT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT. RIGHT. AND TO MR. SHEPHERD'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT SOME OF THE SALARIES THAT ARE MADE, DEPENDING ON THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT THEY OPERATE, UH, STATE CODE ALLOWS FOR THOSE USING DIFFERENT FORMS OF, OF GOVERNMENT TO PAY THEMSELVES DIFFERENTLY. WE ARE A TRADITIONAL COUNTY MANAGER TYPE GOVERNMENT. AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS VERY TRADITIONAL HERE. THE HIGHER SALARIES ARE THE ODDBALL FORMS OF GOVERNMENT. THERE'S 12 LOCALITIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A BIT OF A QUANDARY SOMETIMES. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS JOB IS NOT GLAMOROUS BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, IF YOU WOULD. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF HOURS THAT GO INTO AS I'M LEARNING AS WE GO, BUT SOME OF YOU GUYS AND GALS HAVE BEEN ON THERE. UH, YOU KNOW THAT I, TOM TOLD ME ONE TIME HE THOUGHT HE SPENT 23 HOURS A WEEK IN THIS JOB DOING WHAT HE'S DOING, UM, IN 22 YEARS. YEAH. IN, IN 22 YEARS OF THAT. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE DON'T RUN FOR THIS PUBLIC OFFICE IS THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT OTHER JOBS, THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER JOB THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND, UM, I'M NOT ONE FOR RAISING SALARIES HERE, BUT I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF THE YOUNGER PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD COME OUT AND RUN FOR THESE POSITIONS IF THERE WAS BETTER MONEY THAT MADE IT WORTH THEIR WHILE. SO THEY'RE NOT OUT HAVING TO WORK THE SECOND JOB. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A HARD TIME EVEN GETTING PEOPLE TO RUN FOR THIS POSITION AS WE'VE SEEN. UM, BUT I DO THINK, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME OUT AND RUN FOR THIS JOB AS MUCH AS THEY LOVE YORK COUNTY. IF THEY GOTTA PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE [02:50:01] FOR $9,000 AND AFTER TAXES, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR GAS AND WE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET OLD STIPEND FOR GAS OR WHATEVER. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I I'M CERTAINLY NOT FOR RAISING, UH, SALARIES AFTER WE JUST CUT THE BUDGET THE WAY WE DID. BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I I WOULD BE A AMICABLE TO TALK THROUGH THAT FURTHER. I MEAN, I THINK, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I THINK I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU, MARK, THAT I THINK IT, IT, ONCE YOU SET THE SALARY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A, EVERY YEAR SHOULD BE JUST AN INFLATIONARY RAISE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE GETS. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND VOTE ON THIS EVERY YEAR. IT'S JUST GONNA BE, HEY, WHATEVER THE INFLATION RATE IS, THE FEDERAL INFLATION RATE IS, THAT'S WHAT THE SALARIES BUMP UP. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OUT THERE THAT DOES THAT. SO, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, , WELL, I DON'T THINK SITTING UP HERE DOES THIS FOR THE MONEY. UM, I, I DONATE THIS MUCH AND THEN SOME, UH, TO CHARITIES EVERY YEAR. SO THIS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE MY AMOUNT, IT'S JUST GONNA GO TO CHARITY. UH, AND I'M QUITE FINE WITH THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, IT'S, THAT'S NOT THE REASON I'M HERE. IT'S NOT WHY I'M SITTING HERE. I WANNA REPRESENT THE CITIZENS. I WANNA DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THEM TO, UH, UH, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT THEY FACE. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE KIND OF MOVING INTO BOARD COMMENT. I HAVE ANOTHER, CAN I HAVE ANOTHER INPUT? YEP. OKAY. NOW THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF DID YOUR THING. SO, UM, I JUST, YOU KIND OF GO TO THE QUESTION. YEAH. IT IS 20, ABOUT 20 HOURS A WEEK NOW. BUT WHEN I WAS FIRST ON THIS BOARD, IT WAS 40 HOURS OR NOT MORE. AND I, WHEN I WORKED, UM, FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND FORTUNATELY AND AS A CONTRACTOR, ACTUALLY I WORKED FOR THE GOVERNMENT, WORKED FOR THE CONTRACTOR. WHAT I FOUND IS THAT THEY WERE NICE OF, THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS DOING. SO THEY ALLOWED ME TO DO BOTH. I DID MY CONTRACT WORK, I SUCCEEDED IN EVERYTHING I WAS DOING. IT WAS GOOD. BUT I WAS ALSO AT TIMES HAVING TO DO COUNTY, A LOT OF COUNTY WORK AND, UM, AND, AND AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ENERGY CHARGED UP AND EVERYTHING. AND I'D FIND THAT I WOULD BE SPENDING ABOUT 90 HOURS A WEEK DOING WORK. SO WHEN I, WHEN I FINALLY RETIRED FROM THAT WORK, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS STILL WORKING SO MUCH. AND, AND WHAT IT WAS IS I WENT FROM TWO JOBS AT 40 HOURS A WEEK TO ONE JOB AT 40 HOURS A WEEK, BUT STILL KEEPS YOU PRETTY BUSY AND YOU, EVERY ONE OF US WILL KNOW THIS. AND THROUGH TIME IT'S A FUNCTION OF LEARNING. THE, I FOUND THAT I CAN GET THROUGH THE MATERIAL NOW MUCH QUICKER BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THAT, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS I'M SEEING THE SAME ISSUES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UH, I MEAN, SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UH, JUST EVERYTHING. SO IT GETS EASIER, BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME. AND MY CONCERN, AND I'M LOOKING DOWN AT THE FUTURE AND RELATIVELY SPEAKING, YES. EVERY, EVERY ADDITIONAL PENNY I GET HERE ENDS UP GOING TO INCOME TAX. SO, OR, AND I GIVE, LIKE YOU SAID, I I, I GIVE ALMOST, IN FACT, I DO GIVE ALL MY, ALMOST, IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT IT'S ALMOST ALL OF IT GOES TO CHARITY. YOU FAVORITE CHARITY. BUT THE POINT IN THIS IS THAT, UM, I JUST REMEMBER A TIME DURING THIS LAST COUPLE DECADES WHERE THERE WAS A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. OKAY. THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE BUSINESS FOLKS AND THEY WERE BASED ON COMMISSIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEY GOT TO BE A POINT WHERE THEY, THAT'S WHERE WE BUMPED UP THE SALARY. 'CAUSE I THINK IT WAS IN LIKE 4,800 BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE JUST, WE ALMOST DOUBLED IT. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE, WELL, WE THREW SOME ACTION. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DID IT. BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS, IT, IT GOT INCREASED AND I KEPT THINKING OVER THE YEARS HOW THIS AFFECTS PEOPLE LOOKING AT COMING IN HERE DOING THE JOB. AND I ALSO REMEMBER THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE STATE SAYING HE HAD TO WORK BECAUSE HIS JOB, IT WAS A, WE CITIZEN GOVERNMENTS IN VIRGINIA AND THEY CAN'T SIT AROUND UNLESS YOU'RE THE GOVERNOR OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, YOU'RE NOT WORKING FULL-TIME. YOU'RE JUST MAKING ANY, IF YOU'RE A SENATOR OR IF YOU'RE A DELEGATE, YOU'RE WORKING. YOU, YOU, THIS IS PART-TIME, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THEY SPEND WAY MORE THAN THEY'RE MAKING. AND IT'S SORT OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE. SO I JUST, THE, THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU PAY FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT? SO I'M JUST SAYING IT'S IN DEFENSE. I MEAN, I COULD, OKAY. DON'T NEED IT. BUT THE POINT IS IN HERE, I THINK THAT THE JOB THAT WE'RE DOING TO PROTECT OUR COUNTY FOR THE FUTURE, I THINK I'D SEE PEOPLE IN HERE THAT THAT MIGHT, COULD STEP UP IF THEY KNEW THEY GOT AT LEAST SOME ADDITIONAL INCOME. I AGREE. SO THAT'S, I I JUST, I KIND OF THREW THAT OUT THERE. THOUGHT, THOUGHT I'D MAKE A THROW MY BODY IN FRONT OF THE TERRAIN HERE. 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND SAY, YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT GET ANY INCOME AT ALL. THERE SHOULD BE NONE. YOU SHOULD BE WORKING FOR FREE. [02:55:01] AND I JUST, IT, TO ME IT'S JUST KIND OF A, IT'S A STATEMENT OF DISRESPECT FOR THE, FOR THE, THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE THAT TRY TO COME UP HERE AND DO A GOOD JOB. SO YOU CAN WORK FOR FREE AND WORK FOR YOU GOT A HOBBY, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO, BUT, BUT, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A THERE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. SO ANYWAY, I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER POINT. UM, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT 20 PLUS HOURS A WEEK. WE ARE OFTEN ON FOUR OR FIVE ADDITIONAL BOARDS AS A RESULT OF BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO IT'S NOT JUST, UM, THE WORK THAT WE PUT INTO JOB AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, IT'S ALL THE RIBBON CUTTINGS YOU DO, IT'S ALL THE ADDITIONAL BOARDS THAT YOU SIT ON AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES THAT, UH, THAT THEY SPAWN. IT'S A LOT OF WORK. YEAH. AND UH, TO DOUG'S POINT, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT RUNNING FOR THIS OFFICE, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS A PAID POSITION. , TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE'D GET PAID A PENNY. SO, UH, LIKE DOUG SAID, I, I'M NOT HERE FOR THE MONEY, BELIEVE ME, BECAUSE I GIVE WELL MORE, UH, TO CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS THAN, THAN WHAT WE GET HERE. BUT, UM, THERE IS NO WAY THAT I COULD DO THIS JOB IF I DIDN'T OWN MY OWN FIRM. THERE IS NO WAY I COULD DO WHAT I'M DOING HERE. AND FOR OTHER PEOPLE, UNLESS YOU'RE RETIRED OR YOU OWN YOUR OWN FIRM AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY ON SETTING YOUR APPOINTMENTS AND STUFF, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEBODY WOULD DO IT. AND I'M THINKING LIKE, TOM, FOR FUTURE YOUNGER PEOPLE GETTING ON THE BOARD, THEY MAY NEED A BETTER STIPEND THAN, THAN THE $7,500 AFTER TAXES. SO I, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN SOME OF US OLDER PEOPLE START PUSHING OUTTA HERE. DON'T SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. WELL, EVERYBODY, BUT EVERYBODY BUT ME AND, AND DOUG. BUT NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN WANTING TO SERVE IN A CAPACITY LIKE THIS? AND, AND MOST PEOPLE DO WANNA DO IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING, SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT GONNA DO IT AS MUCH AS THEY LOVE THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY GO, I, I NEED THE EXTRA MONEY TO MAKE ENDS MEET. AND FORTUNATELY, I THINK FOR US, WE, WE WE'RE OKAY, WE'RE DOING OKAY AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT FUTURE, THAT'S ALL. SO I'M WITH TOM ON THAT. ALRIGHT, SO LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE MOVED INTO BOARD COMMENTS, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. BELLAMY, I THINK THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU, UH, COMPOSED DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 5% RAISE. IT'S IS TO KEEP THE SALARIES AS IT EXISTS TODAY. CORRECT. AM I LOOKING AT, AM I LOOKING AT THAT CORRECTLY? NO, IT INCLUDES IT. THAT DOES, IT DOES. I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S, THAT'S IN MATERIALS IS WITH THE 5% INCREASE FACTOR. SO IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP THEM THE SAME, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO AMEND IT TO BE THE CURRENT. SO WHAT WERE I, I'M, I MUST HAVE MISSED THE NUMBERS YOU TOLD YOU YOU SPOKE TO EARLIER THEN. PERCENT YOU SAID? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL? YEAH, HE'S BUMPED UP EVERYTHING. 5%. 5%. THAT'S WHAT MARK'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. AND I KNOW IT. YEAH. IT'S JUST 5% STATE LAW ALLOWS THE DEFAULT ONES TO BE 9,000 FOR OUR POPULATION RANGE. AND, UM, WITH AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT, 1800 FOR THE CHAIR AND 1200 FOR THE VICE CHAIR. VICE CHAIR. THAT'S THE STATE LAW ALLOWED SALARIES FOR COUNTIES IN OUR POPULATION RANGE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEFAULT WOULD BE. UNLESS, UNLESS THE BOARD CHOSE TO GIVE IT A 5% INCREASE FACTOR, WHICH IS THE, ARE THE AMOUNTS REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE? SO 94 50 IS WITH THE 5% INCREASE. CORRECT. I THINK OUR CITIZENS, SO WE'RE SITTING AT, WE'RE SITTING AT 9,000 NOW. I'M LIKE, MS. JURY, I WON'T EVEN PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO IT. UM, ALL RIGHT. UM, ALL, SO I'M GONNA JUMP IN KIND OF SARAH, SHARE SOME SIMILAR THOUGHTS. THIS IS AN OFFICE OF SERVICE. I, I DON'T THINK THIS OFFICE SHOULD EVER BE IN A POSITION WHERE SOMEBODY CAN MAKE A LIVING OUT OF IT OR EVEN EVEN A SIDE HUSTLE. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SERVING IN HERE. 'CAUSE HEY, I CAN, I CAN PUT SOME MONEY IN MY POCKET. THAT IS NOT THE REASON WE WANT PEOPLE IN, IN THIS POSITION. UM, KIND OF KEEPING THEIR PERSPECTIVE TO WHAT WE SEE AT IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. YOU KNOW, OUR STATE, OUR STATE DELEGATES, I THINK, I THINK MAKE 17,000 A YEAR. MM-HMM. . AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE A MUCH LARGER OFFICE AND SCOPE OF WORK THAN, THAN, THAN WHAT WE HAVE. UM, WHICH IS ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, OTHER CHALLENGES AS WELL. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, ABOVE HALF, HALF THAT NOW. SO, UM, WE WANT TO TRACK PEOPLE TO SERVE AND, AND, AND THOSE PEOPLE EXIST, GUY THAT, 'CAUSE WE SAW THEM TODAY, THEY, ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION, THEY'RE ON THAT LEADERSHIP TEAM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID ANYTHING, BUT THEY'RE SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, SERVING THEIR, THEIR PEERS TODAY. AND THAT'S GONNA TRANSLATE TO THOSE FOLKS LATER ON, WANT [03:00:01] TO SERVE THEIR CONSTITUENTS LATER ON WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE AT AGE AND, AND READY TO DO THAT. AND NOT BASED UPON, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME MONEY IN OUR POCKET TO DO THAT. SO YEAH, WE NEED, YOU NEED SOME COMPENSATION FOR, FOR THE WORK. IT IS, IT IS A LOT OF RUNNING AROUND IT. IT IS, IT IS SOME EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO THAT KIND OF HELPS HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THAT COST. UM, BUT I, I'M NOT AT ALL INTERESTED IN TRYING TO RAISE THIS TO ANY AMOUNT WHERE IT, UH, IT BECOMES A SIDE HUSTLE, HUSTLE FOR ANYBODY. NOW, I DO LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT TO AVOID THIS QUESTION IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL, WE WILL JUST, UM, MAY MAYBE TIE IT TO THE, THE, THE FEDERAL, UM, INFLATION RATE AND JUST, IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY, AUTOMATICALLY MOVES WITH, WITH THE ECONOMY. WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE, I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN DO THAT. IT MAY NOT BE THAT SIMPLE, BUT I LIKE THE CONCEPT. SO WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. WE'RE NOT GONNA SETTLE THAT TONIGHT. BUT THERE'S RULES THAT GO WITH THIS. BUT I LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA, I LIKE THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE. SO, UM, BUT UM, AND MAYBE DO IT EVERY OTHER YEAR, SOME SOMETHING. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER. BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I, THIS IS OFFICE OF SERVICE, NOT OFFICE OF THANK YOU. PUT PUTTING MONEY IN YOUR POCKET. SO, UM, ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ALREADY SIGN UP TO SPEAK TO IT. UM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT? OKAY. ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND I GUESS NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION FOR 24 DASH EIGHT. I MOVE 24 DASH EIGHT AND MAKE A RESOLUTION, THEN WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SALARY. OKAY. AND NO, NO RAISE. AND AND TO BE CLEAR, A YES VOTE GETS YOU AN INCREASE IN SALARY, A NO VOTE, KEEPS IT WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY. ALRIGHT, SO WE DON'T NEED, SO WE DON'T NEED THE RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION THEN, OKAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SO IF WE VOTE YES ON THIS, WE ADOPT THE, THE 5% RAISE IF WE VOTE NO ON THIS, WE JUST STAY WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. THAT'S RIGHT. YES SIR. OKAY. SO CAN I ASK RICHARD A QUESTION? IF YOU CAN'T DO IT LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON A GRADUATED SCALE OF HOW CAN YOU DO IT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT EVERY YEAR? WELL, THERE'S WAY, THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS IN THE STATE, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS IN THE STATE CODE TO ESTABLISH SALARIES. ONE OF THEM REQUIRES AN INTERVENING ELECTION. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, AND I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO DO SOME KIND OF MECHANISM THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IN THAT PROCEDURE. BUT THE DEFAULT RULES THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE CODE, YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH AN VOTE ON A SALARY EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND IT, IT'S MAX, THE MAX IS NINE IS THE 9,000 PLUS YOU CAN FACTOR IN A INFLATION ADJUSTED, UM, AS WELL, UM, FOR EACH YEAR. SO I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO DO IT BASED ON THE WAY THE STATE, THE STATE LAW SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES FOR IT. AND I, IIII WOULD BE THEN MAYBE YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT. I'LL LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'D BE SKEPTICAL THAT YOU COULD JUST PUT IN AN AUTOMATIC, A ADJUSTER THAT WOULD INCREASE IT ANNUALLY WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING A, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT PERIODICALLY. WELL, WE JUST, YOU JUST HAVE IT, BUT IT JUST JUST GOES WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION. RIGHT. ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS JUST, IT'S JUST PRETTY SIMPLE. YEAH. SO THE, THE, THE GUIDANCE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD BE JUST INCREASE IT BY THE RATE OF INFLATION. SO THIS ONE WOULD BE 3.8 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE RATE OF INFLATION IS, RIGHT? WELL WE WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS, THIS WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT. IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO THINK THIS IS GONNA BE THIS, THE, THE SALARY FOREVER. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. BUT I I, I'M THINKING I'M ON WITH MS. NOLL HERE NOW, NOW IS NOT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LAY, LEANED IN HARD, LOOK FOR BUDGET REDUCTIONS AND COST SUSPENSE REDUCTION AND ASK PEOPLE TO SQUEEZE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ABOUT TO COME ON TOP OF THAT AND, AND SAY, YOU KNOW, NOW GIMME MY 5%. SO ANYWAY. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION NOW WE ARE READY FOR ROLL CALL AND SAYS MORE COMMENTS. NO ROLL CALL. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS, IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH EIGHT TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES OF MEMBERS OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2024. MR. SHEPHERD. YES. MR. HORO ABSTAIN. MRS. NOLL? NO. MR. DREWRY? UH, NO. MR. RONE, NO MOTION FAILED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. NOW [11. Grant for Staffing Recognition/Retention for 911 Telecommunicators. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-9 to authorize pursuant to the Code of Virginia Section 15.2-1508 the payment of monetary bonuses to employees of the York County 911 Regional Dispatch Center and proposed Resolution 24-68 to accept and appropriate grant funding for the payment of the above stated bonuses. ] MOVING ON TO 11. GRANT FOR STAFFING RECOGNITION RETENTION FOR NINE 11 TELE TELECOMMUNICATORS, UM, COORDINATES 24 DASH NINE AUTHORIZED PURSUANT TO CODE OF VIRGINIA PAYMENT OF MONETARY BONUSES TO EMPLOYEES OF THE YORK COUNTY 9 1 1 REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION 24 DASH 68 TO ACCEPT AN APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDED FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE ABOVE, UH, OF THE ABOVE STATED [03:05:01] BONUSES. MR. HALL, YOU GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT THIS? GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS. SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 23, WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT. AND THE GRANT WAS TO PAY ABOUT 3009 ONE ONE DISPATCHERS ACROSS THE STATE, A $2,500 BONUS AS A RETENTION, UH, FEE AND TRYING TO HELP CUT DOWN SOME OF THE TURNOVER IN OUR CAREER. OKAY. SO WE'LL BE PUTTING THIS TO 69 DISPATCHERS SO THAT THIS, OKAY, SO THIS WAS A STATEWIDE GRANT. THIS COULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR OUR, AMONG OTHERS, OUR DISPATCHERS FOR A A BONUS. CORRECT. FOR RETENTION BONUS. OKAY. ARE WE APPLYING FOR IT OR RECEIVED THE MONEY? WE, UH, IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT. SO WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE LETTER, WE GOT THE GRANT OR WE DID APPLY FOR IT. IT WAS A FORM THAT EVERY PIECE, SO WE DID RECEIVE THE MONEY. WE WILL DRAW IT DOWN AS SOON AS Y'ALL ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. YES SIR. SO IS THIS A ONE TIME BONUS? ONE TIME. NOT ANNUAL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, MR. NO. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. MR. HALL, ARE YOU, NO QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS WAY? OKAY, THANK YOU. YEP. UM, DON'T GUESS WE HAVE APPLICANTS. UM, THEN ANYBODY SIGNED UP? ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? HELLO, MY NAME'S WILLIAM LUGA. I LIVE AT 1 0 5 PUNGA TURN RESIDENCE AND ALSO A FIREFIGHTER IN YORK COUNTY. UM, I'M WHOLE SUPPORTING THIS. THEY'RE OUR FRONT LINE OF SUPPORT, UH, SO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THEM ON THE JOB. 'CAUSE THEY KEEP US SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ANYONE ELSE? NOW WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK, SO I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION. I GOT GOT ORDINANCE, WE HAVE ORDINANCE 24 DASH NINE AND RESOLUTION 24 DASH 68. SO DO I, DO I NEED TO HAVE TWO, TWO VOTES. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 24 DASH NINE, WHICH IS AUTHORIZED THE PAYMENT OF A BONUS AND HAVE A, HAVE A, UH, MOTION PLEASE. STILL MOVED. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS ON, ON THE MOTION, WHICH IS FOR THE PAYMENT? NO. . I VOTE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GONNA A ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOWLES TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH NINE TO AUTHORIZE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA IN SECTION 15.2 DASH 15 0 8. THE PAYMENT OF MONETARY BONUSES TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE YORK COUNTY 9 1 1 REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER. MR. HORO? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MRS. MR. ROH? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. NOW I NEED A, A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 24 DASH 68, WHICH IS ACCEPTING THE GRANT FUNDING FOR THE PAYMENT. SO MOVED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, QUICK COMMENTS. I'M, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. UH, THE 1 78 7 50 REPRESENTS THIS TOTAL OF 2,500 PER AND 1250 PER, WHICH WE JUST DIDN'T, DIDN'T SAY HOW MANY IT AFFECTED. WE HAVE 69 DISPATCHERS THAT WILL RECEIVE THE COMPENSATION OF WHICH SIX OF THEM ARE PART-TIME WORKERS REQUIRED. SO THEY GET HALF OF THE BONUS. AND WE WILL NOT UTILIZE ABOUT ABOUT 4,000 OF THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE, UH, WE DID A CUTOFF DATE OF APRIL THE 15TH. YOU HAD TO BE EMPLOYED BY APRIL THE 15TH. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE HIRED FOLKS SINCE THEN, BUT THEY WON'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE BONUS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON TOP OF WHAT MR. LUGO SAID. NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN A VERY TOUGH JOB, BUT FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT TAKES LIKE SIX MONTHS TO GET SOMEBODY TRAINED UP SO THAT THEY'RE PROFICIENT ON THE FLOOR. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT WE RETAIN THAT, THAT TALENT AND EXPERTISE THAT WE INVEST SO MUCH IN AND GET, GET, GET 'EM, GET 'EM READY TO, TO SERVE AS WELL. SO THIS, THIS SPEAKS TO THAT AND IT'S WATCH IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE DOING IT AND ESPECIALLY SINCE AS A STATE GRANT THAT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO YES SIR. IT WAS A, A STATE GRANT THAT WAS COLLECTED 4 9 1 1, UH, UNDER THE TELECOMMUNICATION TAX FOR WIRELESS DEPLOYMENT FOR NEXT GENERATION. SO THEY WERE, IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS LONGER, SO THEY HAD, UH, A SURPLUS OF [03:10:01] FUNDS. SO THE BOARD VOTED TO SPEND IT ON WHAT IT WAS COLLECTED FOR 9 1 1 AND WITH UP TO A 50 60% TURNOVER RATE ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA. THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOME MONEY FOR THE FOLKS UNDER THE HEADSET. ALRIGHT, I AGREE. ALRIGHT, UM, WE'VE HAD A, UH, MOTION READY FOR ROLL CALL. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. DREWRY HAS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION 24 DASH 68 TO ACCEPT AND APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDING FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE ABOVE STATED BONUSES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. HORO? YES. MR. ROH? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS FOLKS. THAT GETS US THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING. [UNFINISHED BUSINESS] UH, WE HAVE NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE DO [CONSENT CALENDAR] HAVE TWO ITEMS OF CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TAX REFUND FOR DISABLED VETERANS. AND ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TAX REFUNDS FOR OVERPAYMENT AND LICENSES TAXES FOR 2024. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO, UH, PULL OR SPEAK TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY? NO. ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE, UH, I MOVE WE, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. HOREY IS TO IMPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED. MR. JURY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. HORO? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MRS. R. MR. R? YES. HE HE APPROVES IT TOO? YES. MOTION CARRIED. [14. Amendment to the York County Youth Commission Bylaws: Consider the adoption of proposed Resolution R24-95 that an amendment to the YCYC Bylaws should be considered again to increase the number of participants to twenty. ] ALL RIGHT. ONE ITEM, A NEW BUSINESS AMENDMENT TO THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION. BYLAWS CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 95. UH, THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AGAIN TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS TO 20. SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE UM, UM, 15, RIGHT? RIGHT 15. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO IS BUMP IT UP SO THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY MORE APPLICANTS TO THE, UM, AND TO THE COMMISSION. AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT, IT IS A GOOD FIT AS WELL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE 11TH, 12TH GRADERS, THEY GOT A LOT GOING ON. THEY GOT SPORTS GOING TO, AND IT IS RARELY EVER THAT THE COMMISSION IS FULLY TOGETHER. SO HAVING MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION. SO, AND TO ME I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. SO, SO, ALRIGHT. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR ANYBODY? QUESTION. IS THIS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR? THIS IS FOR THIS YEAR COMING, THIS YEAR COMING UP. I'M GOING TURN MINE IN. OKAY. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN? YEP. I'D LIKE TO ADD COMMENT ON THIS. YEP. OKAY. THE REASON I, UM, I BROUGHT THIS UP WAS THAT, UH, OVER THE YEARS AND I, I GENERALLY END UP WITH ABOUT 15 OR SO APPLICANTS. OKAY. AND, UH, AND, UM, I REALLY GO THROUGH A A A, I GOT A FILTER THAT I USE THAT, THAT POINTS, IT GIVES POINTS AND, AND IT GETS REAL FRUSTRATING. IT HAS, I'VE SEEN THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WHERE, WHERE I GET APPLICANTS THAT, UH, WHEN I GET THROUGH SCORING 'EM, THEY'RE LIKE MAYBE LIKE ONE POINT APART AND I'M DOWN TO, I'M DOWN TO FOUR OR YOU KNOW, FIVE THAT ARE WE CLOSE. AND SO I JUST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE KIDS, WE TALK ABOUT THE GREAT WORK THEY'RE DOING. UM, FACT, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE ONE CHILD THAT, UH, OR THE YOUNG MAN THAT OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT, UH, UH, GOD, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME NOW, BUT ANYWAY, HE, UH, JUST RECEIVED ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARDS AND UH, HE'S LIKE, HE WAS, HE WAS WON ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION. AND UM, AND UM, AND AGAIN HE'S APPLIED, BUT THE, THE SCORING, I MEAN IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE THE SCORING AND THE CAPABILITY OF THE CHILDREN. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE CAN GET MORE CHILDREN, AND I KEEP CALLING 'EM CHILDREN, THESE ARE YOUNG ADULTS INTO THE PROCESS OF, OF CIVICS TO UNDERSTAND AND LIVE THE, UH, LIVE, UH, THAT REPRESENTATION, UH, EXAMPLE. I JUST THINK IT'S JUST GREAT. IT'S GREAT FOR, FOR THEM AND IT IS GREAT FOR OUR SOCIETY AND IT'S GREAT FOR OUR COUNTY. SO I'M REALLY, UH, I JUST CAN, I SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA BE ABLE TO DO THIS. SO THAT'S WHY I PUSHED IT. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION. SO IS IT 20, I I AGREE WITH TOM. I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE AS MANY AS WE HAVE AND HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING PEOPLE. AND WHEREAS TOM AND I HAVE 16 OR 20 PEOPLE WHO APPLY, SOME OF THE DISTRICTS ONLY HAVE A FEW PEOPLE. SO HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? AND THAT'S WHY I WAS A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WELL, YOU TREAT, WELL WHAT YOU HAVE, SHEILA IS IF, I MEAN, I, EVERY TIME WITH WALT, FOR EXAMPLE, ONLY HAD THREE. THAT'S ALL HE PICKED. THAT'S ALL HE HAD THREE, THAT'S ALL HE GET. RIGHT? EXACTLY. AND UH, AND I'M, AND I'M SITTING OVER HERE WITH 15. WELL IF YOU, THE, AND THERE WAS A TIME, I ONLY CAN REMEMBER THIS ONE TIME WHERE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I VOTED FOR [03:15:01] AS OR SELECTED ACTUALLY HAD MOVED AND I THINK IT WAS IN DISTRICT FOUR. AND SO WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS I ENDED UP WITH SOMEHOW PICKING FOUR. I DIDN'T UP WITH FOUR FOLKS. AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE'VE GOTTA WE GOTTA BALANCE IT OUT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. AND SO WE GAVE A, WE GAVE A CHANCE FOR THE OTHER, EXCUSE ME, SUPERVISORS TO FIND AN EXTRA ONE. AND, AND AT TIMES YOU COULDN'T. SO WHAT YOU DID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF, THEY'RE ALL OUR KIDS. I DON'T CARE IF WE'RE DISTRICT 1, 2, 3 OR FOUR AND FIVE, THEY'RE ALL OUR KIDS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF WE, WE GET A CHANCE TO REALLY DO THE THING FOR US IN OUR DISTRICT. BUT HEY, IF I NEED A, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS SOME NEEDS A KID OUTTA DISTRICT FIVE TO REPRESENT THE CHILDREN, THEN GET IT. OKAY. ADULTS. AND IF I HAD THE SAME THING, I WOULD GO TO, UH, I MEAN TO ME IT'S LIKE FILLING A POTHOLE IN A WAY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT A DISTRICT, WELL, NO, YOU THINK ABOUT IT SERIOUSLY, SOME SUPERVISORS GET REALLY GET UPSET IF YOU ANSWER A QUESTION OF A CITIZEN IN THEIR DISTRICT. AND THEY DIDN'T ANSWER IT. AND I HAD, AND I HAD A CITIZEN CALL ME UP, GOSH TOM, CAN YOU GET THIS POTHOLE FIXED IN MY DISTRICT? AND I DID. AND THEN I TOLD THE SUPERVISOR I DID. AND THEY GET ALL UPSET THAT THEY DIDN'T GET TO DO IT. WELL, I MEAN, TRY TO HONOR THAT. THESE, THESE ARE ALL OUR POTHOLES, THESE ARE ALL OUR KIDS. SO I'M REALLY BIG ON, UH, DOING THIS SO WE CAN GET IT DONE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. TOM, YOU CAN HAVE ALL MY POTHOLES. , THANK YOU. THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT ANOTHER BE A WHOLE ANOTHER SUPERVISOR EMAILS AND CALLS. ANOTHER SUPERVISOR TOLD ME THE SAME THING, TOM, YOU COME, YOU COME DOWN AND FILL ALL OUR POTHOLES. SO ANYWAY, THEY'RE OUR KIDS. WE'RE GETTING PUNCHY. YEAH, I DO, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION THOUGH. UM, MR. BELLAMY. SO WE'RE GOING A TOTAL OF 20, BUT IF ONE DISTRICT HAS LESS THAN FIVE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT PREVENTS KIND OF CROSS SHARING OF, UM, CHRIS POLLINATING, MR. FORD. BRING OUT THE BIG GUNS. YEAH. BRIAN'S WORKED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO HE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DETAILS THAN I AM. YES, WE DID WANNA GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FLEXIBLE AND UP TO 20, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO FOUR FROM EACH DISTRICT, YOU THAT WOULD EQUAL 20. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HAD THREE IN ONE DISTRICT AND FOUR OR FIVE FROM ANOTHER, YOU COULD DO THAT. SO YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. SO THIS IS UP, UP, UP TO 20. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, CAN'T HAVE A MOTION. WE DIDN'T HAVE A MOTION YET. RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION PLEASE. SOMEBODY I MAY MOVE. THANK YOU. MR. SHEPHERD. CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 95 THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION BYLAWS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS TO 20. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. RON? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO [CLOSED MEETING ] THAT CONCLUDES MOST OF THE TONIGHT'S BUSINESS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, CLOSED SESSION. SO I'LL ASK MRS. KNOLL TO TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11 A, ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE ENC CLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. CALL. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. ROY? YES. MRS. NOLL? YES. MR. DREWRY? YES. MR. SHEPHERD? YES. MR. RONE? YES. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. WE'LL GO TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION. FEEL FREE TO HANG AROUND IF YOU LIKE, BUT FEEL FREE TO GO HOME. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.