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PASTOR DAVID MAGRUDER.COME JOIN US AND, UH, LEAD US IN INVOCATION AND GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
UH, HIS GIFTS AND TALENTS ARE EXCEED, BUT ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
THIS TIME INVITE US, OH, TO TURN TO GOD IN PRAYER.
DEAR ALMIGHTY AND MERCIFUL, GOD, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER THIS EVENING IN THIS SPECIAL COUNTY HALL WHERE CONVERSATION IS INVITED, INPUT IS RECEIVED, AND DECISIONS ARE MADE.
AS WE GATHER TO DISCUSS MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT CONCERN THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY, WE SEEK YOUR GRACE AND YOUR GUIDANCE.
LORD, WE COME TO YOU IN A SPIRIT OF REVERENCE AND GRATITUDE, AND WE ALSO COME TO YOU IN A SPIRIT OF HOPEFULNESS AND A SPIRIT OF JOYFULNESS, GIVING YOU THANKS FOR SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COUNTY AND A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY OF OPPORTUNITY.
AND PEOPLE NOW WE SEEK YOUR BLESSING ON THIS GATHERING, ON THE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD AND ON THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE.
LORD, WE SEEK YOUR BLESSINGS ON OUR ELECTED SUPERVISORS, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS COUNTY, AND THOSE WHO FAITHFULLY AND DILIGENTLY WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF YOUR COUNTY.
GRANT THEM YOUR WISDOM SO AS TO SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY, YET WITH RESPECT TO SHARE IN JUDGMENTS WITHOUT PRIDE OR PREJUDICE, AND TO BE OPEN TO NEW THOUGHTS, NEW IDEAS, AND NEW PEOPLE IN A KIND, IN A LOVING MANNER.
GUIDE OUR LEADERS IN THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS WE PRAY IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
ALL RIGHT, SO I ASK EVERYBODY PLEASE STAND, IS THERE ABLE, I'M GONNA ASK MR. DREW, IF YOU PLEASE GIVE US HONOR LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY.
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OKAY, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION QUEUED UP TONIGHT.SO I'M, IT'S, UH, REGARDING PARKS AND RECREATION, SO I'M GONNA CALL ON MR. SCOTT HENDRICKS.
UH, WE'RE ON RECREATION SUPERVISOR TO COME AND, UH, PRESENT TO US PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, YORK COUNTY CITIZENS AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
MY NAME IS SCOTT HENDRICKS AND I WORK AS A RECREATION SUPERVISOR, ONE FOR THE YORK COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR SPRING AND SUMMER PROGRAMMING.
THIS PAST SATURDAY, WE KICKED OFF OUR SOCCER SEASON THAT WILL RUN THROUGH JUNE 1ST.
IN TOTAL, WE HAVE 61 TEAMS AND SERVE CHILDREN, AGES FIVE TO 16 YEARS OLD.
WE ALSO HAVE A START SMART SOCCER SEASON GOING ON THAT TEACHES THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS.
OUR FIRST MOVIES IN THE PARK WILL BE HELD AT NEW QUARTER PARK ON SATURDAY, APRIL 20TH.
MOVIES WILL BE SHOWN ON SELECT DAYS THROUGH OCTOBER AT CHARLES BROWN PARK, MCNELL'S ATHLETIC COMPLEX, AND NEW QUARTER PARK.
THE BATTLE OF WILLIAMSBURG WILL BE HELD AT NEW QUARTER PARK ON SUNDAY, MAY 5TH FROM ONE TO 5:00 PM PLEASE JOIN US FOR THIS FREE FAMILY FRIENDLY CIVIL WAR EVENT COMMEMORATING THE 160 SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE BATTLE OF WILLIAMSBURG.
THERE'LL BE COSTUMES, EXHIBITS, ARTIFACTS, AND MORE.
RESILIENCE WEEK IS A WEEK WHERE WE HIGHLIGHT RESOURCES TO HELP BUILD PERSONAL FAMILY AND WORK LIVES AND GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS YEAR, RESILIENCE WEEK WILL BE HELD MAY 6TH TO 10TH, AND PLEASE JOIN US ON FRIDAY, MAY 10TH AT 7:00 PM AT THE SENIOR CENTER OF YORK FOR A COMEDY SHOW FEATURING NOELLE DAVID GOODMAN AND FRIENDS.
ADMISSION FOR THIS EVENT WILL BE $5 IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FUN FRIDAY NIGHT ACTIVITY FOR YOUR KIDS.
LOOK NO FURTHER THAN OUR SKATE RATTLE AND ROLL PROGRAM.
WE HOST SKATING SESSIONS EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND WE HOLD THESE SESSIONS AT DARE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE GYMNASIUM.
INTERESTED PATRONS MUST FILL OUT A REGISTRATION FORM ONLINE OR IN PERSON, AND ADMISSION IS $5 PER SKATER.
UM, OUR PICKLEBALL PROGRAM IS ONLY GROWING IN POPULARITY AND WE ARE HOSTING A VARIETY OF CLASSES, FREE CLINICS AND TOURNAMENTS.
ALL EVENTS TAKE PLACE AT BAT CREEK PARK ON OUR NEWLY
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RENOVATED PICKLEBALL COURTS REGISTRATION.FOR ALL OF OUR SUMMER PROGRAMMING OPENED LAST MONDAY, APRIL 8TH, WE ARE OFFERING OVER 20 SUMMER CAMPS CONSISTING OF A VARIETY OF ART, SPORTS, AND OVERALL FUN CAMP EXPERIENCES.
WE ARE ALSO HIRING FOR A VARIETY OF SUMMER PART-TIME POSITIONS.
SO IF YOU OR ANYONE YOU KNOW ARE INTERESTED IN ANY PART-TIME POSITIONS THIS SUMMER, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK ON OUR WEBSITE.
SUMMER FUN WILL START ON JUNE 24TH THIS YEAR AND RUN FOR FIVE WEEKS THROUGH JULY 25TH.
THIS IS A MONDAY TO THURSDAY PROGRAM OVER THE SUMMER WHERE KIDS HAVE NONSTOP FUN.
EACH WEEK OF CAMP IS FILLED WITH RECREATIONAL GAMES, ARTS AND CRAFTS, SPORTS, SPECIAL EVENTS AND MORE.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ACCEPTING WAIT LISTS AT FOUR OF OUR LOCATIONS AND ARE ACCEPTING REGULAR REGISTRATIONS AT OUR SEAFORD AND MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY SITES.
SUPPLEMENTARY TO OUR SUMMER FUND PROGRAM, WE OFFER TWO FIELD TRIP FEVER PROGRAMS. FIELD TRIP FEVER ONE TAKES PLACE ON FRIDAYS ALONGSIDE THE SUMMER FUND CAMP WHERE KIDS GET TO ENJOY A DAY AWAY AT ONE OF OUR VARIOUS FIELD TRIP LOCATIONS.
FIELD TRIP FEVER TWO TAKES PLACE THE WEEK FOLLOWING SUMMER FUN WHERE KIDS GET TO GO ON A FIELD TRIP EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WEEK.
WE ARE ACCEPTING WAIT LISTS AT TWO OF OUR THREE LOCATIONS AND ARE ACCEPTING FULL REGISTRATIONS AT ARMOR GRUDER ELEMENTARY, UM, LOCATION.
SIMILAR TO SUMMER FUN, WE OFFER A SPECIAL RECREATION CAMP.
THIS CAMP IS A SUMMER PROGRAM DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A VARIETY OF ENJOYABLE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH WITH DISABILITIES AND OR SPECIAL NEEDS.
THERE ARE ONLY 10 SPOTS REMAINING, SO PLEASE REGISTER QUICKLY IF YOU WANT A SPOT NEW.
THIS YEAR WE ARE OFFERING A TEAM LEADERSHIP CAMP.
THERE WILL BE THREE SESSIONS EACH HELD AT YORK HIGH SCHOOL.
REGISTERED PATRONS WILL EXPLORE LEADERSHIP CHARACTERISTICS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A LEADER.
THIS CLASS IS CENTERED ON THE JOHN MAXWELL LEADERSHIP BOOK SERIES.
YORK COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION ALSO OFFERS A VARIETY OF ADULT FITNESS CLASSES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE KICKED OFF OUR SPRING SEASON LAST WEEK, AND WE HAVE A SUMMER COURSE READY TO GO.
THESE CLASSES RANGE FROM 30 TO 60 MINUTES AND ARE A GREAT EASY WAY TO GET EXERCISE AND MAKE NEW FRIENDS.
THIS SUMMER, WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO OFFER A WIDE VARIETY OF SPORTS CAMPS.
THESE CAMPS WILL INCLUDE ARCHERY, BASEBALL, BASKETBALL, GOLF, PICKLEBALL, SOCCER, SOFTBALL, TENNIS, AND VOLLEYBALL.
THESE WEEK LONG CAMPS RUN FROM JUNE THROUGH AUGUST THIS SUMMER, OUR THIRD JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY JUNE 15TH AT THE MCMS ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
FROM THREE TO 6:00 PM CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY FAMILY ACTIVITIES, FOOD TRUCKS, BOUNCE HOUSES, GAMES, AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THERE WILL BE A CONCERT FEATURING SLAP NATION FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM AND THE LIVE ACTION MOVIE, THE LITTLE MERMAID WILL BEGIN AT APPROXIMATELY 8:30 PM FOR OUR ART ENTHUSIASTS, WE'LL BE OFFERING A VARIETY OF DRAWING, PAINTING, AND OVERALL ART.
FUNDAMENTAL CAMPS ENCOURAGE YOUR CHILD TO GET ALL WRAPPED UP IN CREATIVITY.
THIS SUMMER AS WE EXPLORE VARIOUS TEXTILE ARTS, WE WILL CREATE FUNCTIONAL, WEARABLE, AND DECORATIVE ART PROJECTS USING FABRIC, STRING, YARN BEADS, AND MUCH MORE.
YOU CAN ALSO JOIN US FOR OUR ANNUAL ECO ART NATURE CAMP AT NEWCOR PARK.
THIS CAMP WILL PROVIDE THE PERFECT SUMMER ACTIVITIES FOR CHILDREN WHO LOVE THE OUTDOORS.
THE THEME FOR THIS YEAR WILL BE HUMAN IMPACT.
WE ARE ALSO PROUD TO HOST SAFETY TOWN SAFETY TOWN IS A GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP DESIGNED TO TEACH YOUNG CHILDREN GOING INTO KINDERGARTEN, VARIOUS ASPECTS OF LIFE SAFETY THROUGH AGE APPROPRIATE HANDS-ON INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCES.
CHILDREN LEARN LIFE-SAVING BEHAVIORS AND PRACTICES THAT CAN HELP REDUCE THE CHANCE OF SERIOUS INJURY.
SAFETY TOWN PROVIDES A SAFE AND EXCITING LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND SIMULATES AN ACTUAL TOWN.
THE SAFETY TOWN SITE FEATURES MOCK BUILDINGS, SIDEWALKS AND STREETS, AND IS USED AS A PRACTICE AREA FOR SEVERAL SAFETY LESSONS THAT OUR CHILDREN LEARN.
THE SENIOR CENTER OF YORK OFFERS VARIOUS EDUCATIONAL AND ENTERTAINING PROGRAMS FOR ADULTS.
PARTICIPATION IS OPEN TO SENIORS AGE 55 OR OLDER, AND THEIR SPOUSES, REGARDLESS OF AGE REGISTRATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL ACTIVITIES AND ARE OFFERED ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
THIS MAY, THE SENIOR CENTER OF YORK IS SPONSORING A SENIOR TRIP TO PENNSYLVANIA.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OVERNIGHT TRIP THAT WE HAVE OFFERED FOR SENIORS.
REGISTRATION IS CURRENTLY FULL AND 48 SENIORS WILL BE JOINING US TO PARTICIPATE ON THIS TRIP.
THIS TRIP WILL BE HELD MAY 7TH TO NINTH AND WILL INCLUDE LODGING,
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FOOD, TRANSPORTATION, AND A VARIETY OF CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL EXPERIENCES.ON MONDAY, MAY 20TH, WE'LL BE HOLDING A SPRING CAR FIT PROGRAM.
CAR FIT IS A PROGRAM CREATED THROUGH THE AAA, A A RP AND THE AMERICAN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY ASSOCIATION, AND BEGAN ON THE PENINSULA AS A PROGRAM THROUGH THE PENINSULA SENIORS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SALT.
THIS IS A FREE COMMUNITY BASED EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM DESIGNED TO HELP MATURE DRIVERS ASSESS HOW WELL THEY AND THEIR CARS FIT TOGETHER.
APPOINTMENTS MAY BE RESERVED ONLINE OR YOU MAY DRIVE IN.
THIS WILL BE HELD AT THE DENBY COMMUNITY CENTER IN NEWPORT NEWS.
PLEASE JOIN US ON FRIDAY, MAY 31ST FROM 11:00 AM TO 1:30 PM FOR OUR ANNUAL PICNIC IN THE PARK.
THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE YORKTOWN BEACH PICNIC AREA, AND PLEASE JOIN US FOR AN EXCITING TIME WITH FOOD AND GAMES.
THIS YEAR, THE YORK PCOS AND TRIAD WILL CELEBRATE ITS 20TH ANNIVERSARY WITH AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND ICE CREAM SOCIAL.
THE PURPOSE OF THE TRIAD IS TO EDUCATE SENIORS ON CRIME ISSUES SUCH AS FRAUD SCAMS AND IDENTITY THEFT, AND PROMOTE OVERALL SAFETY AWARENESS.
THIS WILL TAKE PLACE ON JULY 12TH AT 1:00 PM AT THE SENIOR CENTER OF YORK.
FINALLY, THE SENIOR CENTER WILL BE HOSTING A DELIGHTFUL EVENING OF MUSIC WITH THE MAGIC OF HARMONY SHOW COURSE.
THIS WILL BE HELD ON JULY 30TH AT 7:00 PM AT THE SENIOR CENTER OF YORK.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PROGRAMS, UPCOMING ACTIVITIES OR JOB OPPORTUNITIES, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE AND FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE IS EXTENDING THE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR NEXT YEAR'S YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION.
THE NEW AND FINAL DEADLINE WILL BE APRIL 26TH AT 5:00 PM THE YOUTH COMMISSION SERVES AS A COMMUNICATIONS LINK BETWEEN THE YOUTH OF YOUR COUNTY AND THE GOVERNMENT OF YOUR COUNTY.
WE ARE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR ANY EIGHTH TO 11TH GRADERS, UM, THAT LIVE IN YOUR COUNTY.
FOR MORE QUESTIONS, PLEASE VISIT OUR YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION WEBSITE.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
MR. DREWRY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, NOT UH, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON THIS SUMMER.
SO, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, HOPE WE'LL GET A LOT OF PARTICIPATION IN THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN THE MICROPHONE ON, BUT THANKS FOR HELP.
WE HAVE, THIS IS A TEAM UP HERE AND WE ALL HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
YOU, YOU RUN THE GAMUT FROM THE SENIORS TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THAT'S SO VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED MAKES THEIR LIFE SO MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, MR. ROY.
WELL, THERE MAY BE THE CROWD THAT I CIRCLE WITH, BUT PICK PICKLEBALL AND BIKE BICYCLING ARE THE TWO SUBJECTS THAT ALWAYS SEEM TO COME UP, SO I WAS PLEASED TO SEE YOU COVERED THE, UH, THE PICKLEBALL AT BACK CREEK PARK AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, CHANGING SOME OF THE COURTS AT, UH, NEW QUARTER PARK.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME ACTIVITIES THERE IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING AROUND BIKE, BIKE, UM, BIKE PASS OR BIKE SAFETY? ANYTHING IN THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE, UH, TRYING TO HELP TEACH OUR KIDS, UM, PROPER ETIQUETTE AND PROPER, UH, BIKE BICYCLING? YEAH, SO WE CURRENTLY DO OFFER A WEEKEND ON YOUR WHEELS PROGRAM.
SO IT'S AN EVENT THAT HAPPENS ACROSS THE COUNTY, UM, MOSTLY AT NEW QUARTER PARK AND IT'S AN EVENT WHERE, UM, PEOPLE CAN ENTER TO DO A LITTLE LIKE MOUNTAIN BIKE RACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS, UM, BIKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I THINK WE ARE EXPLORING SOME POSSIBILITY OF BIKE LANES, UM, AROUND SOME OF OUR FACILITIES AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IT DEMONSTRATES ONCE AGAIN THE PLETHORA OF, OF OF FUN AND PRACTICAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE LINED UP FOR THE SUMMER.
IT HELP EVERYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, I COULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO PICK WHICH ONES I'M PUT ON MY AGENDA, SO GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
UM, FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER, IF YOU HAVE A MOBILE DEVICE, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT'S ON SILENT PLEASE.
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WITH THAT, WE ARE READY TO MOVE INTO THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE LINED UP.
AND FIRST IS MS. PAULETTE GOLDIE.
WHO IS THAT ONE? GOOD EVENING.
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ONE 10 COVE CRESCENT, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA 2 3 6 9 2.I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF YORKTOWN ARTS FOUNDATION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ A LETTER TO THE BOARD FROM KATHLEEN WALL, OUR PRESIDENT, WHO IS OUT OF TOWN THIS EVENING.
DEAR YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT AND THE HEARTFELT LETTER YOU WROTE TO OUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES ADVOCATING FOR ON THE HILL GALLERY TO REMAIN IN THE BEHI COTTAGE.
YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND RECOGNITION MEAN THE WORLD TO US.
WE ARE PROFOUNDLY TOUCHED BY THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED IN YOUR LETTER AND THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE VALUABLE ROLE WE PLAY IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOUR SUPPORT REAFFIRMS OUR COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE CHILDREN AND ADULTS OF YORK COUNTY THROUGH THE ARTS.
WHILE THE FUTURE MAY HOLD CHANGES IN OUR LOCATION, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE YORKTOWN ARTS FOUNDATION WILL ALWAYS STAND AS A STEADFAST SUPPORTER OF YORK COUNTY'S EFFORTS TO BRING THE ARTS TO ITS RESIDENTS.
YOUR PARTNERSHIP IS INVALUABLE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR COLLABORATION FOR YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT AND BELIEF IN OUR MISSION WITH HEARTFELT GRATITUDE.
KATHLEEN WALL, PRESIDENT YORKTOWN ARTS FOUNDATION, AND ALL OF OUR MEMBERS.
I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU SHINING FACES,
I I AM HERE HER NOT TO CRITICIZE YOU AT ALL.
I'M HERE TO THANK YOU A LOT AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU, THERE IS NO FINER BOARD SUPERVISORS THAN THIS ONE.
MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 25 YEARS.
AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ON THE HILL.
I AM A PART OF THAT AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP WITH THAT.
I, UH, WANT TO TELL YOU, CHAD GREEN, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A COPY OF HIS LETTER OF SUPPORT.
CHAD GREEN WAS ON YOUR BOARD, YOU KNOW, HE WAS, AND CHAD GREEN NOW SITS IN MY SEAT IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF VIRGINIA AND THEY SAID, WELL, HOW ON EARTH DID HE SIT IN YOUR CHAIR? I SAT IN THIS GREAT BIG CHAIR WITH PILLOWS ALL AROUND IT.
THEY TOOK THE PILLOWS AWAY AND NOW HE FITS IN IT
BUT NONETHELESS, THERE IS NO FINER BOARD THAN YOU ARE.
AND I SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM IS A STRONGLY COMMUNITY RELATED PURPOSE.
IT DOES SUPPORT THE SENIOR CITIZENS.
WE SEND PEOPLE TO HELP WITH ART THERE AND IT DOES SUPPORT THE VETERANS.
WE HAVE SHOWS THERE FOR THE VETERANS AND IT DOES SUPPORT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PEOPLE AND THE TEENAGERS.
THEY EVEN PAINTED THE WALL, THE RETAINER WALL FOR GRACE CHURCH.
AND WE DID IT TO HIDE ALL THE GRAFFITI THAT USED TO BE ON IT.
AND WE SUPPORT THE ART STROLL AND WE SUPPORT PROGRAMS WITH THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM AND ALL OF THE POTTERY AND THE PAINTING AND THE JEWELRY AND THE SOAP.
WE HAVE EVEN PUT IN $35,000 OF OUR OWN MONEY AND WE'VE BEEN FUNDRAISING.
WE JUST NOW RAISED ABOUT $4,000 AT THE HORNSBY HOUSE.
DAVID HORNSBY'S WITH US TOO TO PUT IN TO HELP REFURBISH THAT HOUSE WOULD BE ON THE GROUND IN RUBBLE IF WE HADN'T BEEN OUT THERE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND I'VE SAID ENOUGH, BUT I LOVE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, AND I'M NOT KIDDING WITH ALL THAT.
AND I'M 80 YEARS OLD AND I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT.
I CAN STILL ROCK AND ROLL WITH THE BEST OF YOU
I AM BONNIE CARAC, 1 1 4 BERKSHIRE ROAD, YORKTOWN, AND HERE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT WORK BEING CONSIDERED FOR APPLICATION Y VA 5 3 2 4, THE WATERFRONT
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OPERATIONS BUILDING.I AM PRIMARILY RECOMMENDING SITE SEARCH, ARCHEOLOGY AND DOCUMENTATION.
AN EXAMPLE WHAT OF WHAT COULD BE FOUND THERE IS JUST IN THE ADJACENT BLOCK.
IN 19 89 90, PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION OF KICHAK WATCH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONTRACTED AN ARCHEOLOGICAL DIG TO BE COMPLETED, WHICH RESULTED IN AMAZING FINES SUCH AS ARTIFACTS FROM THE KICHAK INDIANS, THE COLONIAL PERIOD, INCLUDING A PORTION OF A STAR FORT.
A REVOLUTIONARY SOLDIER HUT, CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS HUT TO A FRISBEE AND WRANGLER'S JEANS PATCH OVER 250 BOXES OF ARTIFACTS.
THE BLOCK ABOVE THE PARKING GARAGE COULD BE JUST AS RICH IN OUR LOCAL HISTORY, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW IS TO LOOK.
YEARS AGO, THANKS TO A GRANT FROM THE NICHOLAS MARIO DESCENDANTS ASSOCIATION, A BASIC GROUND PENETRATING RADAR WAS MADE OF PART OF THE LOT.
A MODERN SCAN WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY WOULD GIVE US A CLEARER PICTURE, ESPECIALLY THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY.
ALSO IN THE PAST, NICK LUCHETTI OF JAMES RIVER INSTITUTE FOR ARCHEOLOGY WAS ABLE TO DO A FEW TEST SQUARES.
ONE ARCHEOLOGIST TOLD ME HE FEELS THIS SITE IS OF EXTRAORDINARY HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE EVEN WITHOUT PEER.
HERE, DOCUMENTARY AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESEARCH IS FOUND ON THIS ONE BLOCK, THE BLOCK BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE BUILDING UNDISTURBED KICHAK INDIAN DEPOSITS, EVIDENCE OF NICHOLAS MARIO'S INITIAL SETTLEMENT OF WHAT IN 1691 WOULD BECOME.
WHAT WE RECOGNIZE TODAY AS YORKTOWN 18TH CENTURY BUILDINGS AND REVOLUTIONARY WAR FORTIFICATIONS RECORDS ALSO INDICATE THAT THE BRITISH HAD A CEMETERY AT THE WESTERN END OF THE FORTIFICATION OF THIS AREA.
ALL OF THIS COMBINED INFORMATION GIVES US A TANTALIZING GLIMPSE OF POSSIBILITIES AND SHOULD BE A REASON TO DO STUDIES THERE.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF THE WATERFRONT OPERATIONS BUILDING TO URGE YOU TO SUPPORT STUDIES OF THE PROPERTY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SURE THAT CONSTRUCTION CREWS ARE AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITIES AND KEEP THEIR EYES OPEN.
ANY ARTIFACTS FOUND HERE WOULD BE COUNTY PROPERTY AND YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE THEM.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORY FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND I WILL SAY AS A 50 YEAR THIS YEAR OF MY 50TH YEAR OF VOLUNTEERING FOR THE HISTORY OF YORK COUNTY, I HAVE DEALT WITH A LOT OF STAFF OVER THE YEARS, A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT I HAVE HERE TONIGHT, AND I THANK ALL OF THEM FOR EVERYTHING AND IT DOES COME IN HANDY FOR THEM TO SAY, OH, I CAN GO RUN TO MY OFFICE.
SO THANK YOU ALL, BUT DO CONSIDER THE SITE.
THANK YOU, UH, MS. MARYJO O'BRIEN.
MY NAME IS MARYJO O'BRIEN AND I LIVE AT ONE 20 AUGUST DRIVE IN SEAFORD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF PRESERVE YORKTOWN TASK AGAIN FOR FURTHER ACTION BY THE BOARD TO PROTECT YORK COUNTY FROM LARGE CRUISE SHIP COMPANIES ESTABLISHING A PORT OF CALL HERE, WHETHER ON COUNTY OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOU'VE INDICATED THAT YOU AREN'T INTERESTED IN EXPERIENCING ANOTHER COMMUNITY BATTLE AROUND THE ISSUE, NOR ARE WE, BUT WE FEAR THAT WITHOUT A FORMAL POLICY TO THAT EFFECT, THIS ISSUE WILL SURELY RESURFACE.
THERE'S EVIDENCE FROM MANY AREAS AROUND THE WORLD THAT THE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CRUISE INDUSTRY WILL TRY TO PERSIST IN THEIR ATTEMPTS TO BECOME ESTABLISHED HERE.
NO MATTER THE COSTS OR ATTEMPTS TO STOP THEM.
YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS DESERVE THE ASSURANCE THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN HERE.
MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A DIRECTIVE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR. HILL, TO DETERMINE WHAT LEGAL MEASURES COULD BE TAKEN TO, TO PROHIBIT LARGE CRUISE SHIPS IN YORKTOWN.
AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN NO RESPONSE RESPONSE, NOR ARE WE AWARE OF ANY COLLABORATIVE INTERACTION WITH THE EDA TO D TERMINATE SUCH EFFORTS.
WE FEEL THAT A PROACTIVE APPROACH WILL SERVE THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY WELL AND HELP TO FINALLY GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS ISSUE.
TO FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION, WE RESPECTIVELY REQUEST THAT A MEANS IS ESTABLISHED TO UPDATE YORK COUNTY CITIZENS ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AND RECEIVE COMMUNITY INPUT INPUT.
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MY NAME IS PAM PAU.I RESIDE AT 1 0 3 KIMBERLY COURT, YORKTOWN.
TODAY WE REMEMBER THE TRAGEDY OF 32 LOST LIVES AT VIRGINIA TECH BY A DERANGED GUNMAN.
THIS IS NO LONGER UNUSUAL, BUT THOSE AFFECTED CONTINUE TO SAY, I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD HAPPEN HERE.
GUN VIOLENCE, WHETHER IT IS A MASS SHOOTING OR A ONE-ON-ONE DISPUTE, THE RESULTS ARE STILL THE SAME DEATH OR INJURY.
THIS BOARD GIVES OUR SCHOOL BOARD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HARDEN OUR SCHOOLS TO AT LEAST TRY TO MINIMIZE THE ABILITY OF AN ARMED INDIVIDUAL ACCESS TO OUR CHILDREN AND SCHOOL STAFF.
WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS A REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING, STUDENTS ARE INVITED FOR AWARDS CEREMONIES TO LEAD THE PLEDGE AND PRESENT PROGRAMS EXPLAINING THEIR ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THEIR SCHOOLS.
WHILE THIS MEETING IS UNDER THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND THEREFORE COULD BAN FIREARMS IN ALL WEAPONS FROM THE ROOM AS STATED IN 18.2 DASH 3 0 8 1, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RICHARD HILL, SAYS IT'S NOT A SCHOOL EVENT.
22.1 31 1 ALLOWS ANY FACILITY LEASED OR OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DIVISION TO BE GUN FREE, BUT THEY DO NOT LEASE THE SPACE.
YOU COULD LEASE THE SPACE TO THEM FOR $1 PER YEAR FOR SPECIFIC DATES, BUT MR. HILL HAS CONCERNS ABOUT PART-TIME LEASES.
15.2 DASH NINE 15 SAYS, THE OWNER OF THIS GOVERNMENT BUILDING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT POSSESSION, CARRYING, OR TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS AT YORK HALL.
IF YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THE EXTREMELY CONTENTIOUS NATURE OF THESE MEETINGS.
I DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO IS CURRENTLY LAWFULLY CARRYING A FIREARM TO GET SO MAD THAT THEY FIND THE ANSWER TO THEIR PROBLEMS ON THEIR HIP.
I AM TOLD THE DEPUTIES WILL COME TO THE RESCUE EVEN IF IT'S THAT TRUE.
AND VALDI IN PARKLAND PROVE THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO KILL A FEW PEOPLE BEFORE BEING SHOT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HOW MANY WILL BE SHOT IN THE CROSSFIRE? I STRONGLY URGE THIS BOARD TO ENACT AN ORDINANCE TO BAN FIREARMS FROM THIS BUILDING.
AT LEAST WHEN THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MEETING OUR CHILDREN ARE PRECIOUS AND IF WE DON'T CHOOSE TO PROTECT THEM, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT US? THANK YOU.
DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. BELLAMY, MR. HILL.
I'VE LIVED IN NEW YORK COUNTY SINCE, OH, I SHOULD SAY THIS IS GONNA BE A BUDGET RANT.
I'VE LIVED IN NEW YORK COUNTY SINCE 1997.
I RETIRED WITH MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE AIR FORCE AND THE DODI MANAGED A WORKFORCE OF MORE THAN 4,000 PERSONNEL, MANAGED A MORE THAN $4 BILLION COMBAT AIRCRAFT PROGRAM.
I'M WELL FAMILIAR WITH LONG AND SHORT-TERM BUDGETING PROCESSES, AND I'M ACUTELY FAMILIAR WITH COST CONTROLLING AND CUTTING THE PROPOSED SALARY INCREASE OF 4% ON A $500 BONUS PER EMPLOYEE MUST BE MERIT BASED.
THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND PROVIDES A TANGIBLE MECHANISM FOR INCENTIVIZING PERFORMANCE, HANDING OUT RAISES AND BONUSES BECAUSE NEWFOUND REVENUE ENABLES IT IS PUSHING THE EASY BUTTON.
IF THERE IS NO METRIC ESTABLISHED FOR PERSONNEL EVALUATIONS, THEN I RECOMMEND THESE PROPOSED INCREASES BE SHELVED UNTIL ONE IS IMPLEMENTED.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES THE STATEMENT.
A COMPENSATION INCREASE AT THIS LEVEL WILL OFFSET HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUM INCREASES AND MAKE REASONABLE PROGRESS TO COMBAT INFLATION.
FOR WHOM DO YOU THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT YOUR COUNTY TAXPAYERS ALREADY BATTLING THE EFFECTS OF CONSUMER INFLATION ARE BEING USED TO OFFSET THOSE VERY SAME ISSUES FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES? HOW GENEROUS OF YOU WITH OUR MONEY FURTHER, THE COUNTY INCREASING BY 12% THE SHARE OF EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE WHILE INCREASING THE EMPLOYEE'S SHARE BY A MERE 2% MAY SEEM NOBLE, BUT IT UNFAIRLY SHIFTS MORE OF THE BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYER.
I RECOMMEND REDUCING THE COUNTY'S COST SHARE FROM 12 TO 8%.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO STATES THAT YORK COUNTY SEEKS TO CREATE A DIVERSE ECONOMIC BASE THROUGH RECRUITING, GROWING, AND RETAINING BUSINESS ACROSS A VARIETY OF INDUSTRIES.
AND ITS STRONGEST ALLY IS THE YORK COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
WHILE IN RECENT YEARS THE YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, THE YORK COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN THIS BODY HAVE MADE SOME POOR DECISIONS RESULTING IN QUESTIONABLE USE OF TAXPAYER FUNDS.
TWO EXAMPLES ARE BES BREWERY ON 17 AND THE BUY-IN TO THE WILLIAMSBURG JAMES CITY COUNTY ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
WHATEVER YORK COUNTY'S INVESTMENT INTO BILLS, THERE IS LITTLE PROOF THAT IT WILL RETURN ANY OF THAT INVESTMENT ANYTIME SOON.
DELAY AFTER DELAY AND NOW HEALTH ISSUES WITH COMPANY OWNERSHIP HAVE ONCE AGAIN STALLED ITS COMPLETION.
THE PROPOSED $80 MILLION ATHLETIC COMPLEX PUTS YORK COUNTY TAX PAYERS ON THE HOOK FOR
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400 K IN YEAR ONE, 800 K PER YEAR FOR YEARS TWO THROUGH FIVE AND BETWEEN 300 AND 800 K PER YEAR FOR YEARS FIVE THROUGH 30 FOR A TOTAL, UH, INVESTMENT OF BETWEEN 11 AND A HALF AND $24 MILLION.YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHOULD SEEK TO WITHDRAW FROM THIS VENTURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE ONE OF ITS OWN MEMBERS IS ON RECORD STATING THAT HE HOPES IT WILL BRING REVENUE TO YORK COUNTY.
AS WAS THE CASE WITH VEHICLE VALUATIONS DURING COVID, THE RECENT REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT ACTUAL VALUES OF HOMES.
GOOD EVENING, LADY AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, STEVEN F. KENNEDY 1 0 4 PENN DRIVE, STOCKBROKER BY DAY COULD SERVE YOUR COUNTY FOUNDATION.
EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE TIME OF THE YEAR, SO EVERYBODY GET THEIR EXTENSIONS IN ON TIME.
THAT GIANT SUCKING SOUND FROM MY CLIENT'S ACCOUNT WAS MONEY GOING OUT.
NOT ONE PENNY CAME IN MESSAGE.
IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS AN IDEA AND A SPENDING PROBLEM.
IT'S NEVER A REVENUE PROBLEM DURING THIS TIME.
CIVIC LEADERS MUST MAKE VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES.
WE GET THAT MUCH LIKE GOVERNOR YOUNG KEN JUST DID RECENTLY.
MATTER OF FACT, HE RETURNED BILL 5 44 REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS BACK TO THE SENATE.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU DO THE SAME WITH THIS BUDGET TONIGHT.
SENDING IT BACK FOR A WORKOVER WHEN I SEE GOVERNOR YOUNG CAN NEXT WEEK, YOUR COUNTY'S FISCAL PRUDENCE WILL SURELY COME UP.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND MUCH ABOUT GOVERNMENT, BUT I'M STILL LEARNING AFTER 38 YEARS OF OBSERVATION.
WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND IS ECONOMICS AND PRIORITIZING INVESTING AND SPENDING THE OPTICS HERE, LADY AND GENTLEMEN, IS NOT GOOD.
HOW ABOUT UNNECESSARY BUILDINGS? DOCK MASTER ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ON THE WATERFRONT TO HOUSE THREE STAFF MEMBERS HOUSING THREE STAFF MEMBERS, YET WE'RE GONNA HAVE 300 PLUS KIDS IN LEARNING TRAILERS INSTEAD OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
ISN'T THAT BACKWARDS? MAYBE WE COULD DO A KID SWAP SHOW.
THINK ABOUT THAT JUST FOR A MINUTE.
THEY ACTUALLY APPEAR OSTENTATIOUS.
WE STILL HAVE NO PRICE TAGS ON EITHER OF THESE BUILDINGS, SO LET'S SAY $2 MILLION PLUS MAYBE A BLANK CHECK.
ANYONE TRY TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR LATELY? I KNOW I GO TO LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT LATELY.
UH, PERHAPS LEAN ON MR. DREWRY IN ALL OF HIS YEARS IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY.
QUESTION AS YOU DELIBERATE THIS.
HOW MANY SHERIFFS, HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS COULD WE HIRE INSTEAD OF BUILDING MULTIMILLION DOLLAR UNNECESSARY BUILDINGS? COULD WE ACCELERATE SHERIFF MONTGOMERY'S DOZEN REQUEST FROM DEPUTIES INSTEAD OF THE SIX AND SIX THING? I SAW THAT ON THE LAST SLIDE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE PLAYING GAMES NUMBERS FOR BUDGET REASONS, MESSAGE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON BUILDINGS IN ADDITION TO RUNNING A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS IS BAD POLICY.
LADY AND GENTLEMAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN WITH THE PRICES BY THE TIME THE GRAND GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONIES BEGIN? ANYBODY THROUGH THE CARTER YEARS WHAT STAGFLATION LOOKS LIKE? THIS WILL BE WORSE.
YOU CANNOT FIGHT THIS NASTY BOUT OF INFLATION THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING.
WASHINGTON DC'S DYSFUNCTIONS AFFECTING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AND YOUR COUNTY FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE MORE FINANCIALLY WORSE OFF BY THE TIME THAT THING IS DONE.
CAUTIONARY MESSAGE, IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.
FINALLY, PLEASE REMEMBER AS YOU CONTINUE YOUR DELIBERATIONS, MILTON FRIEDMAN, ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AS A STOCKING STUFFER.
NO EXTRA CHARGE FROM THE FOUNDATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I PROMISE ONE OF THE GREAT MISTAKES IS TO JUDGE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS BY THEIR INTENTIONS RATHER THAN THE RESULTS.
LET'S GET SOME RESULTS FOR ALL 71,000 CITIZENS.
HERE, UH, WANNA SAY WE HAVE DR.
GERALD RUBIN NEXT? YEAH, I, I'M DR.
UM, RETIRED, UH, UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR FROM MARSHALL UNIVERSITY, PROFESSOR OF MATHEMATICS.
UM, I HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED NEW TAX LEVY, WHICH I FEEL IS IN VIOLATION OF VIRGINIA CODE 58.1 DASH 3 3 2 1.
A COPY OF THIS CODE IS ATTACHED.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I SIGNED IN, I BROUGHT MY MATERIAL FORTH AND I ASKED FOR THE, THE, THE SECRETARY TO PASS THAT ON TO THE MEMBERS.
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ACCORDING TO THIS CODE, IF ANY, IF ANY ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OR REASSESSMENT OF A PROPERTY CAUSES MORE THAN A 101% OF PROPERTY OF TAX LEVY OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S, REAL PROPERTY TAX LEVY, IN OTHER WORDS, UH, MORE THAN A 1% INCREASE, UM, THE RATE OF LEVY NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEW, UH, RATE TO BE 101%.EXACTLY OF THAT WHICH WAS, UH, THE TAX AMOUNT LEVIED THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
IN MY OWN CASE, IT WENT UP IN ASTOUNDING OVER 20%.
AND, UH, I WORKED OUT THAT THAT RATE, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR CODE AND, UH, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE NUMERICAL PARTS OF THAT.
UH, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE A CLEAR VIOLATION.
AND ACCORDING TO THIS CODE, UH, THIS IS PERTINENT TO, UM, EACH COUNTY, CITY, OR TOWN IN VIRGINIA, NOT TO ANY, WITH ANY, ANY TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS TO THE LOCATION.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THIS.
I THINK IT, TO ME, IT'S CLEAR CUT AS A MATHEMATICIAN, SO, OKAY.
AND NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. WES THOMAS.
I LIVE AT ONE 11 BETHANY TERRACE IN TAB.
AND I'M HERE ALSO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, THE TAX INCREASE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT RATE IS 77 CENT A HUNDRED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING A 74 CENT PER HUNDRED, A MINOR REDUCTION.
IF, IF MY INCREASE MY ONE PROPERTY WENT UP ALMOST $20,000, MY OTHER PROPERTY WENT UP ALMOST $50,000.
AND THIS IS PROPERTY THAT MY GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER PAID GOLD FOR IN 1911.
I'M THE FIFTH GENERATION TO LIVE ON THIS PROPERTY.
IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT NUMBER THE SAME, IT SHOULD BE 64 CENT PER HUNDRED, NOT 74.
74 IS LIKE A 15 OVER A 15% TAX INCREASE.
REMEMBER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHERE WE SIT, WE SIT HERE IN YORKTOWN WHERE OUR FOUNDERS, OUR ANCESTORS, FOUGHT THE BRITISH TO GIVE US FREEDOM.
AND NOW WE'RE STILL HERE FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM.
AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY.
YOU SHOULD LOOK OUT FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE US.
WE THE TAXPAYER, WE THE HOMEOWNERS, NOT THE HARRISON AND LEADERS, NOT THE, NOT THE BIG DEVELOPERS, NOT THE PRINCESS CRUISE LINES, NOT THE BES, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT THE EDA HAND PICKS IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
WE THE TAXPAYERS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO US.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR BEST INTEREST.
I'VE RUN A BUSINESS HERE FOR 26 YEARS.
I DON'T GET TO GO AND JUST TAKE MONEY FROM THEM WILLY-NILLY AND HAVE ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITY TO DO SO.
WE NEED TO LOOK LINE BY LINE ITEM BY LINE BY ITEM AND CUT THE MONEY THAT'S BEING SPENT TO GET THIS COUNTY BACK ON A REASONABLE BUDGET.
JUST LIKE I HAVE TO DO EVERY TIME I DO A JOB, EVERY QUARTER, I JUST GOT MY QUARTERLY TAXES, WHICH ARE HORRENDOUS, AND I'VE GOTTA WRITE A CHECK.
I'VE GOTTA WRITE MULTIPLE CHECKS AS A MATTER OF FACT.
AND Y'ALL NEED TO DO THE SAME.
I KNOW THAT OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND CREATED WEALTH AND HAD PAYROLLS AND, AND HAD PEOPLE TO, TO DEPEND ON THEM FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HOPE THAT THEY'LL CONSIDER THAT AND BRING THAT INTO THIS NEW BUDGET DELIBERATION.
WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE ESSENTIAL DUTIES OF THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF DOING ALL THESE THINGS THAT LOOK NICE OR LOOK ATTRACTIVE.
JUST ONE EXAMPLE, WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS UP AND DOWN 17, THAT I CONSTANTLY SEE EMPLOYEE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TENDING? COULD THAT MONEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE IN MY POCKET AND NOT, NOT BE TAKEN FROM ME? THANK YOU.
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EVENING.YOU'VE HEARD A VARIETY OF TOPICS BROUGHT UP.
TODAY I'M GONNA BRING UP A DIFFERENT ONE.
I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YORK COUNTY FOR THE NEW GREEN TOURISM TOURISM INITIATIVE THAT YOU'VE, YOU, UH, CER CERTIFICATION YOU'VE RECENTLY RECEIVED.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL LOOK FOR WAYS TO BUILD ON THESE INITIATIVES IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SOME YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A RUMOR, WE HEARD IT FROM CHAD GREEN, THAT THE COUNTY WAS EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF ELIMINATING OR CHARGING A FEE FOR SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS IN THE COUNTY.
THERE ARE 500 PLUS CITIES AROUND THE, UH, NATION THAT HAVE INSTITUTED SUCH, UH, BANS OR FEES.
AND I BELIEVE YOU'D GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR YORK COUNTY CITIZENS FOR SUCH AN EFFORT.
AND I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT, AT THAT POSSIBILITY, WHICH WOULD GREATLY REDUCE THE PLASTIC WASTE STREAM FROM THE COUNTY.
AMONG THE NEW INITIATIVES MENTIONED ON, ON THE VISIT YORKTOWN WEBSITE WAS A BAN ON PLASTIC STRAWS.
THIS IS A GREAT, THIS IS A GREAT THING, BUT IT FALLS A BIT SHORT.
IF THE STRAW THAT YOU GET IN YOUR DRINK IS PLUNGED INTO A SINGLE USE PLASTIC CUP WITH A PLASTIC LID ON IT, WHICH WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN TOWN AS WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
AS YOU KNOW, PLASTIC POLLUTION IS, IS A, AN EPIDEMIC, UH, PROPORTION AND THE PERCENTAGE OF PLASTIC THAT'S ACTUALLY RECYCLES ON THE ORDER OF ONLY FIVE TO 6%.
AND I'VE ALSO, UH, MAYBE YOU'VE ALSO MAYBE HEARD THAT, UM, SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING AROUND, UH, INDICATES THAT EACH OF US CONSUMES A CREDIT CARD AMOUNT OF PLASTIC IN JUST A WEEK.
IT'S IN OUR BLOODSTREAM, IT'S IN BREAST MILK, IT'S IN VEGETABLES AND DRINKING WATER.
SO PLEASE KEEP UP THIS CAMPAIGN AND TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND DO SO FOR US, FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
MIKE PETERSON, FIFTH DISTRICT CITIZEN TAXPAYER, YORK COUNTY.
I CAME HERE, UH, TONIGHT TO PRAISE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY OF YORK.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ME AT OTHER MEETINGS BEFORE.
UH, SOME OF THEM ARE CLUTCHING THEIR CHEST NOW WONDERING HOW COULD WHAT'S HAPPENED TO HIM.
BUT I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT AND, UH, SO I, I WANNA FIRST ALL MENTION THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES, OR EXCUSE ME, IT'S FOUR.
THERE'S MS. WHITAKER WHO WORKS IN PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOR THE COUNTY, AND, UH, SHE, UH, REPORTED THAT SHE WAS AT RIVERSIDE LAST WEEK AND WE HAVE COM BEEN CORRESPONDING ABOUT FOIA.
AND, UH, SHE SAID, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIRECT YOUR THINGS TO THE PORTAL BECAUSE I AM NOT GONNA BE AT WORK.
AND SO I IMMEDIATELY SENT HER AN EMAIL THANKING HER FOR BOTHERING IF SHE'S IN TROUBLE.
AND, UH, AND I SENT, I'M SENDING HER A GET WELL CARD.
I LETTING ME KNOW FROM HER HOSPITAL.
I WENT TO THE COMMISSIONER REVENUES OFFICE AND I HAD SOME ODD THING THAT THEY'RE NOT USED TO.
AND, UH, ALICIA HELPED ME, I'D GIVE HER LAST NAME, BUT HER NAME TAG ONLY HAD HER FIRST NAME.
THEN THERE ARE THOSE TWO OTHER EMPLOYEES IN THE I I WILL NOT SPECIFY THE OFFICE.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I, I TOLD THEM WHAT I WANTED.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT AVAILABLE.
THEY COULDN'T DIRECT ME ANYWHERE.
AND THAT WAS A CONVERSATION OVER A FEW MINUTES BETWEEN TWO OF THEM.
AND THERE WERE A LOT OF DESKS IN THAT OFFICE.
AGAIN, I WON'T SPECIFY EMPTY, UH, DISAPPOINTING.
BUT I, NOW, WHAT'S MY POINT? I RECOGNIZE GOOD SERVICE.
I USED TO HAVE TO GIVE GOOD SERVICE.
I'VE WORKED IN GOVERNMENT MOST OF MY WORKING LIFE, WHICH IS NOW OVER.
INSTEAD, I GET TO STUDY YORK COUNTY.
ALL FOUR OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL GET THE SAME
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INCREASE OF SALARY.NOW, ANOTHER EMPLOYEE, UH, RECENTLY HAS BEEN PROMOTED INTO THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S MR. BELLAMY.
AND, UH, HE CAME AND SAW US AT A MEETING I GO TO.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE MADE A PRESENTATION AND I ASKED, I AM NOT PRONE TO ASK EASY QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO GET PAID A LOT.
AND I WON'T GO INTO MY QUESTION NOW, BUT ONE THING I DON'T LIKE IS WHEN PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OR PUBLIC OFFICIALS ELECTED OR OTHERWISE WANT TO GIVE ME A SONG AND DANCE A SHELL GAME SOME JIVE ABOUT THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FIR HE HAS IN HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION ON YOUR WEBSITE, HIGHLIGHTS OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, NUMBER ONE, 3% REAL ESTATE TAX CUT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, IT LOOKS LIKE I HAD TWO PEOPLE ON THE SAME FORM, SO WE'LL CALL AT ONE AT A TIME.
UM, FIRST, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. LARISSA TUIT ETTE, AND I SEE YOUR NOTE, BUT I PLEASE ASK TO REMIND THAT YOU, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE PODIUM.
SO, GOOD EVENING DEAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
MY NAME IS LAR, CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? ONE 19 RED ROAD WILLIAMS WORK DISTRICT ONE, UH, MY FAMILY AND I TURN OUT TO BE VICTIMS OF A MASSIVE MARKETING AND HOME CONSTRUCTION FRAUD.
WE LOST OUR LIFETIME INVESTMENT, OUR STRUCTURAL INSULATED PANELS, ALSO KNOWN AS A GREENHOUSE.
I WON'T PUBLICLY ABBREVIATE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR LAWS AND ONGOING HEALTH IMAGES.
THIS IS MR. DAMIEN PATAL, DIRECTOR OF FISHER SIP AND MANUFACTURER OF KENTUCKY, WHO SUPPLIED US WITH THE DEFECTIVE SAP PANELS AND MR. LARRY CABS OR CABS CONSTRUCTION, WHO OPERATED AND CONTINUES TO DO HIS BUSINESS ILLEGALLY IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA WITHOUT BUSINESS REGISTRATION WITH THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION.
BUT TODAY, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THESE ENTITIES TODAY.
I'M HERE TO PLEA FOR HELP FROM MY COUNTY AND FROM MY COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY WE LOST OUR HOUSE TO A MASSIVE FRAUD LEADING TO THE HOUSE TO RUT, WE ALSO LOST IT IS TO INHABITABLE HUMAN CONDITIONS.
THE TOXIC MOLD LEVEL IN OUR HOUSE IS DANGEROUS AND HARMFUL TO ANY HUMAN OR ANIMAL.
MY 12-YEAR-OLD SON HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY EXPOSED TO TOXIC MOLD FOR YEARS.
HE LOST 20 POUNDS IN JUST SIX MONTHS.
HE LAB RESULTS FROM GREAT PLAINS LABORATORY INDICATE THAT HE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO TOXIC MALT ASPERGILLUS.
HIS MPA EXCEEDS THE NORMAL LEVEL RANGE BY ALMOST 13 TIMES, MAKING HIM POSSIBLY IMMUNOCOMPROMISED AND CONSEQUENTLY UNABLE TO FIGHT BACTERIAL INFECTION OR INFLAMMATORY DISEASE.
IN ADDITION, HIS RECENT X-RAY SHOWED BILATERAL SCATTERED CALCIFIED GRANULOMAS WE'RE FACING A NUMBER OF CLINICAL TESTING TO DETERMINE HIS HEALTH CONDITIONS.
ONCE WE GET TO SEE A PULMONARY SPECIALIST AT VCU CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, WITH THE HELP OF TWO GENEROUS CITIZENS AND MYSELF, WE EVACUATED MY CHILD FROM THE TOXIC HOUSE AND ENVIRONMENT.
AND HE IS CURRENTLY STAYING IN WILLIAMSBURG DAYS IN HOTEL LOCATED OR BYPASS ROAD.
EVEN THOUGH MY CHILD IS BOUNDED TO THE ONE ROOM, HE'S AT LEAST IN HA FRESH AIR.
AND FOR ALMOST A MONTH NOW, AFTER APRIL 20TH, WHEN WE NEED TO CHECK OUT FROM THE HOTEL, WE FACE A GRUESOME FUTURE UNDER LUCKED WITH UNCERTAINTY.
WITHOUT YOUR HELP USING, UH, THIS TELEVISED OPPORTUNITY, I'M REACHING OUT TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, MEDIA, EVERYONE WHO CARES, AND, UM, WHO, WHO HAS A MEANS TO HELP US.
AND, UH, I I BROUGHT A PICTURE OF MY SON AND PLEASE TRY TO LOOK BEYOND THE TWO DIMENSIONAL IMAGE.
AND WHEN YOU DO, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE AN INNOCENT SUFFERING CHILD WHO CANNOT TALK AND DISCUSS AND, AND ASK FOR HELP OR ASK ABOUT PAIN.
HE, HE, HE'S NONVERBAL, SO PLEASE DON'T, DON'T LOOK AT ME AS A WHITE CHRISTIAN, ORTHODOX FEMALE SPEAKING WITH AN ACCENT WHO APPEARS TO CRY WOLF.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS I'M A STRUGGLING SINGLE MOTHER TO A SUFFERING DISABLED CHILD WHO NEEDS YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION AND HELP.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE ALREADY WHO HELPED US WITH WHAT THEY COULD AND THEY KNOW WHO, WHO THEY ARE.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO IS WORKING OR TRYING TO HELP US RIGHT NOW, LIKE A HOUSING DEPARTMENT IN YOUR COUNTY TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO HELP ME IN THE FUTURE TO FIND A SHELTER FOR MY SON AND SAVE HIS LIFE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
NOW DOES YOUR MOTHER ALSO WANT TO SPEAK OR ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY.
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YOU CALLED ME ON GUARDI THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE TRUCKS AND STUFF ON THE ROAD.
UH, BUT AT ANYWAY, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TONIGHT, UH, I'M AT ONE 30 PRODUCTION DRIVE MYSELF.
MY WIFE HAS THAT BUSINESS THERE.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR, UH, ALMOST 14 YEARS.
APPROXIMATELY, UM, IN THAT TIME FROM WHERE THESE TRUCKS ARE PARKED NOW TO THE END OF THE ROAD, UH, THERE ARE FIVE AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES.
NOW, IN THAT 14 YEARS, NONE OF THESE FIVE BUSINESSES HAVE EVER PARKED VEHICLES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND MUCH LESS BIG TRUCKS.
NOW, BASICALLY THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS SORT OF SITUATION IN OUR END OF THE STREET IS THAT WE JUST PRACTICE A GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICE.
WE SCHEDULE PEOPLE, WE SCHEDULE, A GENTLEMAN CALLED ME MONDAY MORNING ON HIS VEHICLE, WORKED ON, WE SCHEDULE HIM FOR THURSDAY BECAUSE THAT FIT OUR FRAMEWORK.
WE DIDN'T WANT HIS VEHICLE SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO THURSDAY, HE'LL BRING IT IN, WE'LL GET TO IT, THAT'S FINE.
SO THERE'S NO REASON, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR ANY VEHICLES, PARTICULARLY A DANGEROUS VEHICLE TO BE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO WE REALLY, WE JUST CAN'T SPEAK ENOUGH ABOUT GETTING THESE VEHICLES CLEARED OFF THE ROAD.
UH, AND, AND LET ME REPEAT MYSELF.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR 'EM TO BE THERE.
I I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ANY, ANYBODY.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL HAVE WORKLOADS, WE SCHEDULE.
SO NOW I I CAN I GO AHEAD AND DO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN TOO? THERE'S ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, UH, THAT WE SIGNED UP TONIGHT.
DAVE HAS CALLED ME AND ASKED ME TO SUBMIT HIS, UH, ISSUES TOO.
UH, DAVE HAS DIVERSIFIED CONSTRUCTION, UH, AT, UH, 1 23 PRODUCTION DRIVE.
UM, DAVE HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT INSIGHT INTO THE SITUATION AND IT'S DANGER THAN I DO.
HE AS A FIREFIGHTER, UH, AND HIS STATEMENT HERE IS, UH, THAT SECONDS MAKE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENCE.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO RESCUE SOMEBODY, FIRE OR INJURY, AND THE, THE FIRE ENGINES AND THE RESCUE TRUCKS OR BIG TRUCKS IN THE START WITH, THEY COME DOWN THERE, THEY'RE PINCHED OUT, THERE'S OTHER TRAFFIC.
UH, IT'S AWFULLY HARD FOR THEM TO GET DOWN THERE.
UM, HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE SITE, THE SIGHTLINES, THE, THE ACTUALLY JUST LOOKS HORRIBLE.
IT'S JUST A BIG JUNKYARD DOWN THERE.
AND THAT WE'VE HAD CUSTOMERS REPEATEDLY SAY, WHAT IS ALL THAT MESS? THE OTHER END OF THE STREET? IT'S EMBARRASSING.
IT, IT DEFLATES THE VALUE BY PROPERTIES TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
UM, THEY'VE ALSO WANTED THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT HE HAD A FACILITY THAT HE'LL HE OUTGREW.
UH, INSTEAD OF PARKING STUFF ON THE STREET AND DOING OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO, HE BOUGHT A NEW FACILITY WHERE HE IS NOW, WHICH IS MUCH BIGGER AND ACCOMMODATES ALL OF WHAT HE DOES.
SO THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER SUGGESTION.
UM, AT ANY RATE, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT DAVE.
BUT, UH, THERE, THERE, THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION HERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST SCHEDULE YOUR WORK, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS IS GONNA WORK, IF YOU GUYS WILL SAY NO PARKING ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, SO PLEASE PUT SAFETY FIRST.
YOU KNOW, AND THIS, THE GENTLEMAN, WHOEVER WAS DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, LET HIM WORK OUT HIS PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL WORKED OUT OUR PROBLEMS. EVERY ONE OF THIS ROOM HAS.
SO LET HIM WORK HIS PROBLEMS OUT.
LET'S GET THOSE TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD, PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, THOSE WERE ALL THE APPLICATIONS I HAVE FOR CITIZEN'S.
COMMENT, UH, IS ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, THE ROOM AS PART OF THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE WILL MOVE ON
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
TO, UH, COUNTY REPORTS.AND THE FIRST UP IS MR. RICHARD HILL COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS.
AND MOVING ON, ON TO DO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HILL WHILE WE'RE HERE? OVER HERE? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO,
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT, MR. BELLAMY.UH, A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
NUMBER ONE, THE, UM, ARTICLE THAT MR. MON FRANZ WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AWARE OF THAT RATHER TODAY IT WAS AN ARTICLE IN DAILY PRESS.
IT WAS VERY NICE, VERY NICELY DONE ON THE WATERFRONT BUSINESSES AND ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEPS THAT THEY WERE TAKING.
IF, UH, YOU STILL HAVE THE PAPER AROUND, IT'S, IT'S WORTH THE READ.
IT'S VERY NICE, VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE AREA.
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MR. ROY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT, THAT THEY ARE PAVING MIDDLETOWN FARMS IN YOUR, IN YOUR DISTRICTAND I THINK THAT IS, UH, SORELY, SORELY DUE.
SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THEY'LL BE FINISHED BY THURSDAY, SO I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
I WAS OUT THERE LAST THURSDAY.
AND THE LAST ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THIS IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK.
UH, THOSE FOLKS THAT WORK WITH MR. HALL AND ANSWER THE 9 1 1 CALLS, IT'S A TIME TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
UH, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO, MR. HALL, PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG FOR ME.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BELLAMY? I DO HAVE A, A QUICK QUESTION, UH, A ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD BUILDINGS IN YOUR, THE VILLAGE AND THE ARTIFACTS THAT MAY BE IN THE DIRT.
DON'T WE DO A, A REVIEW BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING? I MEAN, SO THAT WE WILL NOT DISTURB OR WE, IF WE DISTURB THAT WE REMOVE THEM CAREFULLY SO THAT THEY, THE ARTIFACTS CAN, THERE, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CALL FOR THAT.
I KNOW IN MY TENURE WE'VE DONE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, UH, ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT SITES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.
SO APPARENTLY WE ARE GONNA DELEGATE TO MR. ANDERSON TONIGHT.
YOU'RE GONNA GET STEPPED TO THE QUICK PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM.
UM, WITH, UM, ALL, ALL OF YORKTOWN IS A HISTORIC AREA, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY.
AND WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PHASES, EVERYTHING FROM THE BASIC REVIEW, AND THEN IF THEY START FINDING THINGS, IT CAN GO INTO PHASE TWO AND THEN EVENTUALLY A PHASE THREE WHERE THEY EITHER REMOVE, UM, FROM THE SOIL AND, AND PRESERVE IT OR, OR MAKE IT A NICE SITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN VISIT.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING EITHER.
SO, UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO MATTERS
[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]
PRESENTED BY THE BOARD.AND I'LL GO BACK HERE TO MY LEFT, MR. DREW, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? OKAY.
AND MR. ROY, I THINK ALL MY COMMENTS ARE BUDGET RELATED AND I'LL HOLD THOSE UNTIL THE, UH, PUBLIC, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.
ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL BE THE CONTRARIAN HERE.
I DO HAVE, SINCE WE HAVE A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE HERE AND MR. HENDRICKS TOUCHED UPON EARLIER, AND THAT IS THE APPLICATION FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S, UH, YOUTH COMMISSION.
SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS IN NOW.
UM, LOOKING FOR MORE, UM, WE HAVE EXTENDED THE DEADLINE TO APRIL 26TH AT 5:00 PM SO, LIKE, UH, MR. HENDRICKS SAID IF YOU HAVE OR KNOW OF A EIGHTH TO 12TH GRADER, WHETHER THEY'RE IN ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS OR HOMESCHOOL, DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU FEEL WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A YOUTH COMMISSION, PLEASE ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY OR, OR TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT.
UM, AND ANOTHER, WE HAD ANOTHER GREAT CLASS THIS YEAR.
NEXT MONTH IS OUR LAST, UH, LAST MEETING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER GOOD YEAR NEXT YEAR.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE APPLICANTS.
SO PLEASE, UH, IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, ENCOURAGE 'EM TO SIGN UP.
UH, GOT A LOT OF GOOD THINGS OUT OF IT AND LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE ON STRONG.
SO, UH, AGAIN, PLEASE ENCOURAGE ANYBODY YOU KNOW, TO SIGN UP FOR THAT.
UM, WITH THAT WE ARE ROUGHLY ON SCHEDULE, SO WE WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A QUICK RECESS YES.
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, FOR THE CALL, THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
UH, FIRST THING WE HAD UP TONIGHT WAS, UH, RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 63.
UM, BUT THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN.
SO WE WILL BE SKIPPING PAST THAT TONIGHT.
UM, I DO WANT TO MAKE A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA GIVEN THE, UM, THE APPLICATIONS WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO THE BUDGET.
SO I'M GOING TO MOVE UP, UM, AND BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
[2. Application No. UP-1009-23, Donald and Theresa Newsom. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-63 to approve a Special Use Permit for a Tourist Home in an existing dwelling at 1203 Wilkins Drive. ]
YEAH.ON THAT, UH, FIRST ONE, UH, I THINK THERE WERE MOST PEOPLE KNEW THAT IT WAS GONNA BE WITHDRAWN, AND YOU DID MENTION THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE MAY BE SOMEONE HERE THAT REALLY DIDN'T CATCH THAT OR SOMEBODY ON TV THAT, THAT WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A TOURIST HOME, CORRECT? YES.
I'M JUST STRESSING THAT AND THAT THE, THE APPLICANT ON THEIR OWN
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HAS, UH, WITHDRAWN THAT THE REQUEST.I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH PERTAINING TO THAT.
UM, AND UNDER THE NEW STATE, I MEAN THE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE LAW HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH, WHERE IS THAT TODAY? THE, THE BILL 5 44.
MR. HILL COULD TALK ABOUT IT BETTER, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, THE GOVERNOR HAD MADE AMENDMENTS TO IT AND REMANDED IT BACK TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THE SENATE FOR POSSIBLE ADOPTION.
AND IT WILL BE ARGUED ON THE TWO HOUSES TO FOR ADOPTION OR NOT.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S BACK IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S HAND.
THE, THE BILL WAS RETURNED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WITH TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE RELATIVELY MINOR CLARIFICATION TYPE, UM, AMENDMENTS.
AND IF THEY, IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CONCURS IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY, BOTH THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE, THEN THE BILL WILL BECOME LAW.
IF THEY DON'T AGREE, THEN IT WILL GO BACK TO THE GOVERNOR AND HE CAN TAKE FURTHER ACTION ON IT.
EITHER, EITHER VETO IT OR SIGN IT OR LET IT BECOME LAW.
SO IN, IN, UH, AS IT PERTAINS TO US, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE YEARS, OVER SPECIAL, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS.
HOW WOULD, IF THAT LAW PASSES, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT I AFFECT US AS, UH, AS AT THE LOCAL, LOCAL LEVEL? WELL, I THINK THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN AND I KNOW PLANNING STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT.
BUT THE, THE WHOLE, THE GIST OF THAT BILL IS, IS THAT IT ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL BY, RIGHT.
UM, IF YOU OCCUPY YOUR HOME AS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
NOW, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE KICKER IS, IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT IN OUR CODE AND THAT REQUIREMENT WAS ENACTED BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST OF LAST YEAR.
SO OUR, UH, PROVISION IS GRANDFATHERED AS LONG AS WE DON'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.
HOWEVER, WE ARE ALLOWED TO INTRODUCE POLICY OR GUIDELINES.
WE COULD HAVE THAT IF THERE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT AN ORDINANCE, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE.
THAT'S WHERE WE STAND AND WE'RE STILL SORT OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES, BUT LET'S ASSUME THAT, THAT THE, THAT THAT BILL IS GOING TO BE PASSED EITHER AS AMENDED OR, UM, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM THAT IT IS.
AND IT WAS PASSED BY PARTY LINE THE LAST TIME, 51 TO 49.
IT'S EXPECTED THAT IT WOULD BE THE SAME RESULT ON THE 18TH.
WE ANTICIPATING THAT IT WILL PASS WITH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FINAL RESULT IS AND THEN POUR OVER IT TO UNDERSTAND WELL, EXACTLY WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND WHERE, WHERE DO WE SIT WITH IT.
THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
UM, I GET BACK IN MY NOTES HERE.
SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH UP A LITTLE BIT JUST GIVEN THE, UM, THE, UH, COMMENT APPLICANTS HERE.
CERTAINLY A LARGE MY INTEREST IN DISCUSSING THE, THE BUDGET.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM, JUMP
[7 Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Public Hearing. Receive public comment on proposed FY2025 Budget.]
DOWN TO ITEM SEVEN, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK UP TO THE TOP AFTER THAT.AND, UM, WITH THAT AND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO HERE.
THAT WILL BE MORE THAN ONE, UH, REQUEST FOR, UM, OR OPTION FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HEAR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.
THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL HEAR THE COMMENTS, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK FORTH LIKE THAT.
SO JUST, JUST A HEADS UP 'CAUSE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY USED TO.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I WILL CALL HIM OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. MARK BELLAMY, UH, TO GET US STARTED, MR. ROOM AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO, UH, TONIGHT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING NIGHT.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, ON THE BUDGET ITSELF, AND THEN ONE ON WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THESE ARE THE THREE ITEMS, UH, AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE BUDGET THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE LAST ONE AS IT PERTAINS TO WASTE MANAGEMENT.
SO TONIGHT'S ANNUAL, UH, BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED BY STATE CODE.
AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR PURPOSE HERE IS TO ALLOW, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY WHO ARE TAXPAYERS, UH, TO HAVE A VOICE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I DO WANT TO KIND OF, UH, SIT HERE FOR A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR THAT WERE DIFFERENT TO, UH, ASK FOR SOME ENGAGEMENT.
UH, IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME, MR. SHEPHERD ASKED FOR US TO HAVE TOWN HALL MEETING, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT.
I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.
I THINK THE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD WAS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
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WANT TO DO AGAIN.UH, THOSE COMMENTS TOTALED, UH, AS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 45.
AND SO WE DID SEND YOU A SUMMARY ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF THINGS WERE BEING SAID.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, HEATHER SHOT AND HER STAFF TOOK AND MADE, UH, SMALL VIDEO SNIPPETS TO GO ONLINE, BE USED ON FACEBOOK, ET CETERA.
SO WE REALLY HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO CHANGE, UH, THE ENGAGEMENT.
AND YOU'VE SEEN A, A VERY NICE TURNOUT TONIGHT AS WELL.
SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THIS HAS COME OUT.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON, UH, TO THIS.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE OTHERS, AND THEN YOU'LL GO BACK, UH, AND LOOK AT THE ALL THREE OF THE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS I, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE.
UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING THE BUDGET MEETINGS, I'VE PROBABLY SAID THIS ABOUT FIVE TIMES, SO WE'LL, UH, PASS ON THAT.
BUT JUST IN CASE ANYBODY HAD SOME QUESTIONS, THIS IS THE ALL COUNTY FUNDS BUDGET, $266 MILLION.
THAT INCLUDES THE GENERAL FUND, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, INTERNAL FUNDS, ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS LESS TRANSFERS.
WE MOVE MONEY BACK AND FORTH, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NET MONEY, NOT COUNTING MONEY TWICE.
SO THAT NUMBER IS $266 MILLION ROUGHLY.
WE HAVE SINCE, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE STARTED MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE, UH, THE FINAL BUDGET BASED ON YOUR GUIDANCE.
SO WE HAVE ADJUSTED STATE REVENUE WHERE WE, UH, BELIEVED IT TO BE APPROPRIATE.
UH, ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE COMP BOARD WHERE WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE STATE, UH, TO COVER SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT THE STATE TYPICALLY, UH, SHARES WITH US AND THEY PAY FOR.
AKERS WAS HERE AND TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PARTNER REQUESTS, MM-HMM.
SOME OF THOSE FOLKS DID NOT GET WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT SPENDING A LITTLE EXTRA AND ROUNDING THEM UP AND GIVING THEM WHAT THEY HAD LAST YEAR.
SO, UH, WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE LAST THING, WE WENT BACK, UH, MS. OWENS WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR INTEREST REVENUE AND MADE SOME CHANGES THERE AS WELL.
SO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS A NOTICE OF REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT VALUES.
UH, AS THE DOCTOR POINTED OUT, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED, UH, TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OR REDUCE THE TAX RATE.
IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE CHOSEN TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, IN LIEU OF THIS, UH, 1% CAP.
THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING IS THE PROPOSED TAX RATES.
AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS YEAR AS WELL.
THE BOARD GENERALLY IS LIMITED TO TWO TYPES OF TAXES THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER THE REAL ESTATE RATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
NOW, WITHIN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS LIKE MOBILE HOMES, UH, RVS, ET CETERA, THAT MAY HAVE DIFFERENT RATES.
BUT THOSE RATES STILL FALL UNDER THAT.
AND THE BOARD HAS THE PURVIEW TO CHANGE THOSE RATES.
SO HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.
UH, 77 CENTS IS THE CURRENT RATE.
WE'VE PROPO PROPOSED THE NEW RATE TO BE 74 CENTS.
UH, THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE, UH, AT THIS MOMENT IN TERMS OF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE.
WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD, OR WHAT I HAVE RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD, IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE REGISTRATION FEE.
SO WE HAVE TOUCHED PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUT NOT IN THE RATE, SO TO SPEAK.
THE OTHER RATES REMAIN UNCHANGED.
WE WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
UH, THIS IS A REAL ESTATE RATE, UH, FOR SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THAT MANY OF THEM ARE NO CHANGE.
TWO OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY GONNA GO UP MM-HMM.
SO NOW THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK UP.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO AVOID OURSELVES.
UM, CAN YOU TAKE THAT BACK PLEASE? THAT ONE? YES, SIR.
YEAH, HAMPTON, YOU GOT AS A DECREASE, OKAY.
YES, HAMPTON 1 CENT, BUT WE, WE MADE YORK GREEN SO THAT WE, WE WOULD STAND OUT ON THE
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IS GOING TO LOWER THEIR RATE BY 1 CENT.SO OTHER THAN THAT 1 CENT FROM HAMPTON, WE WOULD BE THE ONLY LOCALITY, UH, DOING THAT.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, IS ON A REASSESSMENT CYCLE, JUST LIKE WE ARE.
THEY HAVE JUST FINISHED A TWO YEAR REASSESSMENT, AND THEY'LL NOT BE LOWERING THEIR RATE AT ALL.
AT LEAST NOT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, WE ARE STILL, UM, ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE AREA.
AND, UH, I THINK WE, WE HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF ABOUT THAT.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SOLID WASTE.
WE'VE, WE MADE TWO PRESENTATIONS TO THE BOARD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT THIS.
SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, UH, REGARDING THE RATES.
YOU'LL SEE IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE TRASH AND RECYCLING, UH, THAT BILL WILL GO TO $34 AS OPPOSED TO 24 50.
AND THAT, THAT IS THE MAJOR CHANGE IN THIS CATEGORY.
THIS IS LARGELY DRIVEN BY RECYCLING AND WHAT IT COST US TO GET RID OF RECYCLING.
MR. SHEPHERD, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR YOU JUST DIDN'T HEAR ME? NO, I FORGOT MY HEARING AIDS.
THAT'S WHY I'M
IF YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ASK, WOULD YOU LIKE THE LAMAR? IT WORKS.
UM, I, AS AGAIN, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT, UH, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INPUT IN THIS, UH, IF THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO SPEAK, BUT JUST TO BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF SOMETHING, AND THEY STILL WOULD, LIKE THEIR COMMENTS HEARD, THEY STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO SEND AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
THEY COULD CALL AND LEAVE US A MESSAGE.
AND THOSE FORMS THAT I MENTIONED ONLINE ARE STILL OPEN AS WELL.
SO, MR. RONE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO, UH, OPEN AND CLOSE EACH ONE OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SIR.
SO, AS I WAS SAYING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO.
SO THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS PUBLIC HEARING ON PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED FY 25 BUDGET.
SO BASED UPON WHAT PEOPLE WROTE IN THE APPLICATION, THE, IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF THE APPLICATION, I'VE TRIED TO ORDER IT IN A WAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE BUDGET SPECIFICALLY WOULD GET CALLED UP FIRST.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT REALLY PUT A SUBJECT LINE ITEM FOR THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, BUT I DID HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO PUT A, A LINE IN OR FOR THE CALENDAR TAX RATE.
SO, UM, SO I REORDERED THE APPLICATION BASED UPON THAT.
UH, THE FIRST FEW WILL BE THE, UM, FY 25 PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THAT.
AND THE FIRST PERSON UP IS, UH, MS. POO SHOW.
MY NAME IS PAM EO, AND I HAVEN'T MOVED.
I LIVE IN THE SAME PLACES AS I DID A FEW MINUTES AGO.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD USE CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS TO CREATE AND OPERATE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT THEY KNOW WILL, THAT WILL OPERATE AT A LOSS.
THE SPORTS COMPLEX FUNDED IN THE 2025 BUDGET AND 30 YEARS OF FUTURE BUDGETS TAKES AWAY NEEDED FUNDS FROM COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT BENEFIT US ALL.
INSTEAD, WE FUND ADVERTISING FOR PRIVATE BUSINESSES WITH THE TOMMY TAX AND BECOME LANDLORDS FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
A FACILITY WHOSE USE IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE TO THE TAX PAYERS OF THE COUNTY, LET IN INVESTORS AND ENTREPRENEURS FUND THESE PROJECTS, NOT THE TAXPAYERS.
AND I HAVE ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO IT, BUT WE GET FEES, BILLS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM FROM THE COUNTY FOR WASTE AND FOR NUMEROUS ITEMS. CAN YOU CALL THEM TAXES INSTEAD? BECAUSE AT LEAST WE COULD HAVE A, A REDUCTION IN OUR, OR EXCUSE ME, A DEDUCTION IN OUR TAXES WHEN WE FILED THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE.
UM, THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING BY A LOT OF PEOPLE, JUST, JUST IGNORANCE.
BUT, UM, THE, THE SURVIVING SPOUSE, UH, IS SOLELY FOR MILITARY FAMILIES, NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTY AND HAVE LOST A SPOUSE.
AND ALSO, I JUST FOUND OUT I'M 74, I'VE MISSED FOUR YEARS OF A REDUCTION IN MY GARBAGE COLLECTION FEE.
SO, UM, IT JUST TOOK A PHONE CALL.
PEOPLE OUT THERE, IF YOU'RE 70 OR OLDER, CALL WASTE MANAGEMENT, GET THE REDUCTION.
IT'LL SAVE YOU QUITE A BIT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S FOR EITHER SPOUSE BEING 70,
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WHAT? IT CAN BE EITHER SPOUSE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BOTH.NEXT UP, UH, MR. RON STRUBBLE.
UH, RON STRUBLE, PRESIDENT CONSERVE YORK COUNTY FOUNDATION, 2 0 5.
I'LL TRY TO SPEAK LOUDER, MR. SHEPHERD.
SO TO TRY TO CATCH YOU THERE, UM, I'M GONNA REPEAT SOMETHING MARK JUST SAID, BUT I WANT TO JUST SAY IT AGAIN.
BUT LAST YEAR, MR. SHEPHERD COMMITTED TO SEEKING MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
MR. BELLAMY THEN LED AN EFFORT, WHICH CULMINATES TONIGHT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I FEEL AS IF THE EFFORTS TO INCREASE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT HAVE BEEN THE EQUIVALENT OF TRYING TO GET US INVOLVED, ONLY TO SELL US A TIMESHARE.
ONCE YOU GOT US ENGAGED, GET THEM IN THE DOOR AND SELL, SELL, SELL.
WHAT HAVE YOU CHANGED SINCE MR. BELLAMY'S PROPOSAL? HAVE YOU REDUCED SPENDING IN ANY AREA? AS BEST I CAN TELL, MOST OF YOU AGREED TO ADD A TOKEN $2,000 TO THE COUNTY'S CHARITABLE EXPENSES OF A $266 MILLION BUDGET.
NO PRODUCTIONS ARE TO BE SEEN.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT IS AT PERFECT STAFFING, STAFFING LEVELS ARE UNDERSTAFFED, OR THAT NONE OF THEM ARE OVERSTAFFED PEOPLE OF WISDOM AND INTEGRITY LIKE YOURSELVES? DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT AS I STAND HERE TONIGHT, I FIRMLY BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ARE ALREADY DECIDED ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS REASONABLE AND PLAN TO VOTE? YES.
THESE TWO BUSINESSMEN HAVE SIGNIFICANT PRIVATE SECTOR BUDGETING EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING EFFICIENT BUDGETS.
WHY NOT LISTEN TO THEM? SO IF YOU DID LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU WOULD STOP MINIMIZING THE IMPACTS OF THE INCREASES.
LOOK AT THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS ON OUR CITIZENS.
LOOK AT RECENT YEARS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASES, CITIZEN TAX INCREASES, EXCUSE ME, CIGARETTE TAX INCREASES, TRASH AND RECYCLING FEE INCREASES.
AND NOW RE REAL ESTATE TAX INCREASES ELIMINATE THE NICE TO-DOS, SUCH AS THE UNNECESSARY UPFRONT FUNDING OF THE CIP TO THE TUNE OF THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE PUTTING THAT UP FRONT THIS TIME WHEN WE USUALLY PUT IT IN THE BACK END.
ONCE WE KNOW WHAT OUR SURPLUS IS, MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO PUT THAT UPFRONT.
THAT'S A HALF A CENT OF A TAX INCREASE.
AND THAT'S $500 IN MY POCKET THIS YEAR.
DEMAND EVERY DEPARTMENT FIND A 5% COST SAVINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WE BUILD A SURPLUS TO BE REFUNDED BACK TO THE CITIZENS.
REWARD EMPLOYEES WHO IDENTIFY SAVINGS AND PENALIZE THOSE WHO IGNORE THE MANDATE, INITIATE AN IMMEDIATE HIRING FREEZE, AND IMPLEMENT A BOARD CONSISTING OF STAFF, CITIZENS, LOCAL BUSINESS PERSONS, AND A SUPERVISOR TO AUTHORIZE BACKFILLS.
THIS CAN BE DONE VIRTUALLY, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT EACH ONE AND DECIDE WHICH ONES ARE WORTHY OF FILL.
AND FINALLY, YOU WOULD NOT WASTE OUR TIME, IF, EXCUSE ME, DO NOT WASTE OUR TIME.
IF YOU WON'T INCORPORATE THE CITIZEN'S INPUT, JUST DICTATE THE RATE SO WE CAN SPEND OUR TIME ON MORE PRODUCTIVE ENDEAVORS.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HERITAGE HUMANE SOCIETY.
WE ARE THE PUBLIC SHELTER THAT SERVES DISTRICT ONE OF YORK COUNTY, AS WELL AS JAMES CITY COUNTY AND CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG.
SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
I FIRST OF ALL WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT OF OUR PROGRAM FOR THE HOMELESS PETS IN OUR COUNTY.
AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A YEAR LIKE NONE OTHER.
SO SINCE WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETS, I WILL FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THAT HAS IMPACTED OUR BOTTOM LINE.
WE ARE AN OPEN ADMISSION ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH MEANS THAT ANY ANIMAL FROM YOUR DISTRICT, ONE THAT NEEDS A SAFE PLACE TO LAND, HAS OUR, OUR SHELTER.
SOMETIMES THAT'S AS MANY AS 30 ANIMALS AT A TIME THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN FOR HOARDING CASES.
FROM THE BREEDING CASE THAT HAPPENED AT THE LOCAL HOTEL RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM OUR FACILITY THIS YEAR, WE HAD 25 RABBITS THAT CAME IN AT ONE TIME.
AND WE READJUST CONSTANTLY SHIFT SPACES, BUT WE HAVE AN ANIMAL POPULATION THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IN OUR CARE WITH THE DOGS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY UP 105% FROM PRE-PRINT PANDEMIC LEVELS.
SO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT OUR DATA FROM 2018, WE HAD 41 DOGS IN CARE.
2019, IT WAS 52, 20 20, IT WAS 29, 20, 21, 28.
THEN IN 2022, WE WENT TO 61 20, 23 70.
AND AS OF YESTERDAY, WE WERE AT 84.
SO OUR ANIMAL POPULATION NUMBERS ARE GROWING.
AND WITH THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL MEDICAL EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
WHEN WE DID OUR APPLICATION THIS YEAR IN OCTOBER, I'M
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GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR MORE.AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE I REALLY DID NOT THINK THAT WE WERE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THE INCREASES THAT WE DID.
WE WERE LOOKING AT HISTORICAL DATA.
WE'VE NEVER SEEN A HISTORICAL LIKE THIS.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, PLEASE, IS, UM, ONE FIFTH OF THE ANIMAL ALLOCATION TO COME TO OUR SHELTER BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ONE FIFTH OF YOUR COUNTY.
SO INSTEAD OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALLOCATED, UM, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO RECONSIDER IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND TO HELP MAKE US WHOLE.
IN THIS SITUATION, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP OUR DOORS OPEN AND TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO COME IN TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM, INTAKE DEFERRAL PROGRAMS, HUMANE EDUCATION, ANIMAL CAMPS.
THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON FOR ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE OFFERING YOUR COUNTY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE NEED IS THE DIFFERENCE IN INCOME TO BE ABLE TO HELP OFFSET JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE DIFFERENCE.
OUR OUT OF POCKET FOR YORK COUNTY IS $77,000.
WHAT WE GET CURRENTLY IS 35,000.
SO WE'RE ASKING TO BE, TO JUST MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE A LITTLE BIT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH THE LENGTH OF STAY IN OUR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, ANIMALS THAT USED TO LEAVE IN THREE TO FIVE DAYS ARE OFTENTIMES THERE FOR MORE THAN THREE WEEKS.
AND SOME ARE THERE FOR FIVE MONTHS OR MORE.
THEY'RE NOT BEING EUTHANIZED FOR TIME OR SPACE IN OUR FACILITY.
WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP OUR DOORS OPEN AND TO ALLOW THEM THE TIME THAT THEY NEED TO FIND THEIR RIGHT FAMILIES.
BUT TO DO THAT, WE NEED YOUR HELP AND YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
ONE, YOU SAID ONE FIFTH OF THE TOTAL, AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL? I KNOW IT'S 35,000 FOR HERITAGE.
YOU MEAN HOW MUCH IS, UH, 256,601.
SO ONE FIFTH ROUGHLY 50,000? YEAH.
51,320, IF YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING MATH THAT WAY AND CHANGE.
I AM WES THOMAS, ONE 11 BETHANY TERRACE AND TAB.
AND I SPOKE EARLIER, AND I'LL REITERATE, I'M A FIFTH GENERATION IN MY FAMILY TO LIVE ON THIS PROPERTY THAT I LIVE ON NOW.
AND THESE INCREASES ARE OUT OF THIS WORLD.
THE, THE ASSESSMENT ON ON MY HOUSE WENT UP ALMOST $20,000.
MY OTHER PROPERTY, WHICH WAS MY GREAT UNCLE'S PROPERTY, WENT UP ALMOST $50,000 ACCORDING TO THE, THE, UH, THE STATE CODE THAT MY PROFESSOR FRIEND TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
MR. BELLAMY MENTIONED, UH, 58.1 DASH 33 21 IN ORDER TO KEEP THE RATE THE SAME OR TO KEEP THE, THE AMOUNT THE SAME, IT SHOULD GO DOWN TO 0.64 64% ON A HUNDRED, NOT 74.
74 IS A 15.6% INCREASE IN MY TAXES AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S TAXES.
THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE TRUST OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BUDGET OF THIS COUNTY WENT UP NINE, 9.1%.
HOW, HOW CAN YOU GET AWAY WITH THAT? I RUN A BUSINESS, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 26 YEARS.
I CAN'T JACK MY BUDGET UP BY, BY 9.1% AND JUST GO TO ALL MY CUSTOMERS AND SAY, GIMME MONEY IN THE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.
WE NEED TO GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AND DEMAND CUTS.
THAT'S HOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR RUNS.
YOU NEED TO CUT THE BUDGET LIKE HOMEOWNERS DO.
YOU'VE ALREADY RUNNING A A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS.
IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY, IT'S OUR MONEY.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE THE TAXPAYERS, THE HOMEOWNERS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, NOT HARRISON AND LEAR, MID-ATLANTIC, RYAN HOLMES, PRINCESS CRUZ, THESE BIG DEVELOPERS, THESE BIG CONSORTIUMS THAT COME TO Y'ALL WITH ALL THIS MONEY, THEY'RE DANGLING IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY.
THEY ARE NOT YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
WE ARE, YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WITH ALL THE INTEREST RATES GOING UP, THE INFLATION GOING UP, THE GAS PRICES SOARING THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY GOING DOWN, WE CAN'T, WE, THE CITIZENS CANNOT AFFORD INCREASES LIKE THIS.
I DRIVE AROUND EVERY DAY AS A CONTRACTOR AND I SEE THESE BRAND NEW COUNTY TRUCKS.
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YOU GOT THESE BRAND NEW F 2 54 BY FOURS EVERY BELL AND WHISTLE IN 'EM BRAND NEW.I'M DRIVING AN F 2 52, BUT MINE'S A 1995.
AND I KEEP IT RUNNING BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MY BUDGET WORKS.
I DON'T GET TO GO BUY NEW TRUCKS EVERY, EVERY TIME I GET A NEW EMPLOYEE.
SO PLEASE TAKE OUR POINT OF VIEW IN CONSIDERATION AND GET US TO 0.64, NOT 0.74.
I HAVE, I HAVE TWO MORE, BUT THEY WERE ADDRESSED THE TAX RATE.
SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO, UM, ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET.
I WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
AND THEN THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THAT BY THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ACTUAL TAX RATE.
SO DOES ANYBODY, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME SPEAK TO THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING YOU NONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AND MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CALENDAR TAX RATE.
GERALD RUBIN TO COME SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE.
YEAH, I SPOKE EARLIER AND WES REALLY, UH, WENT IN GREAT DETAIL.
THINGS THAT HE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER AND THAT I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER AS WELL, WELDER, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR CUT ABOUT THIS AS 58.1 DASH 3 3 2 1.
UH, I MEAN, YOU EVEN HAD IT ON THE SCREEN THERE ABOUT NOT GOING MORE THAN 1% YET.
UH, THE RATE, UH, UH, I MEAN, WENT UP 15 TO 20% WITH PEOPLE THERE.
I JUST DON'T SEE THAT I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG, JUST BARELY INTO THE YORK COUNTY.
AND I, IT WAS FRUSTRATING TO SEE THAT WILLIAMSBURG IS DOWN 0.62.
MAYBE I SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING A, A MILE.
BUT, UH, IT, IT IS KIND OF FRUSTRATING.
I I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE HUGE INCREASES IN THE ASSESSMENTS.
I MEAN, HOW, HOW THAT WAS DONE THERE AND, AND, AND THE PROCEDURES DONE THERE.
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, I MEAN, I, I JUST BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 20, UH, 20 AND IT WAS KEPT PRETTY LEVEL THERE.
AND THEN THIS HUGE INCREASE IN THAT, WHICH OF COURSE, UH, WITH, WITH THE TAX RATE, IT IS LED TO THIS 15 TO 20% INCREASE IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED, UH, REAL ESTATE TAX FOR ME, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO CAN WE GET ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ASSESSMENTS OR THE REASSESSMENTS OR IT'S JUST JUST A BLANK THING THAT WE, WE WERE FORCED TO ACCEPT? DR.
RAYWIN, IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S REP PORTAL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE DOCUMENTATION ON HOW THEY, THEY DO THE ASSESSMENT AND HOW TO APPEAL THE ASSESSMENT AND ALL KIND OF INFORMATION LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL DOCUMENTED THERE.
YOU CAN APPEAL THE ASSESSMENT TO HAVE IT RE THE RES REASSESSED THERE, THERE, THERE, AND ALL THAT IS DOCUMENTED THERE AS WELL.
I JUST GO TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S PORTAL AND THAT INFORMATION'S THERE.
IS THERE, IS THERE A LIMITATION TIME LIMITATION ONE ON THAT? I MEAN, YES, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PAY REAL ESTATE IN ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS THERE, SO DR.
RUB, WE CAN, WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT MORE IN DETAIL AFTERWARDS, BUT THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU MAY HAVE WITH US AT THIS TIME.
MAYBE I SHOULD START TO MOVE TO WILLIAMSBURG PROPER OUT OF YOUR COUNTY GET AND, AND, AND GET TO 0.62.
BUT I DO LIKE THINGS HERE, BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT WHAT'S THE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, TAX RATE.
I HAVE ONE MORE, UM, SIGN UP MR. MIKE PETERSON, BUT I DON'T SEE MR. PETERSON HERE.
I THINK HE MAY HAVE LEFT US, SO.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE APPLICANTS FOR, UH, RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND, AND SPEAK TO ANY ITEM THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, BUDGET FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND UM, AS WELL AS, UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UM, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE TARGETED FOR MAY, THE MAY 7TH WORK SESSION FOR THE, FOR, UM, FOR THE VOTE ON THE BUDGET.
UM, SO YOU MAY WANNA MARK YOUR CALENDAR CALENDAR TO ATTEND THAT.
UH, THAT IS OUR CURRENT TARGET.
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HEY, MR. CHAIRMAN? YEP.I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? IT'S A WORK SESSION.
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME CONFUSED OVER THE YEARS THINKING THEY'D COME IN TO THAT WORK SESSION AND SPEAK.
THERE'S NO PUBLIC SPEAKING IN THAT WORK SESSION, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO THIS WAS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NOW? YES, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR, UM, BOARD COMMENTS, BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN THAT FOR, FOR THIS ITEM AT THIS, AT THIS TIME.
UM, MR. DREW, ANY ANY THOUGHTS YOU WANNA SHARE? ITEM REGARD? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AT THIS TIME.
MR. ROY? YEAH, I, I'VE GOT SEVERAL COMMENTS.
UM, I HAVE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SET A BUDGET AT 74 CENTS.
I'VE, I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN TO ANOTHER PENNY.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS TONIGHT ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND HAVING $750,000 ASSIGNED, UH, IN THE BUDGET TO CAP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, SORRY, CIP REPAYMENT.
UM, THAT'S TRADITIONALLY DONE IN THE FALL.
IT'S DONE IN THE FALL WHEN THE SURPLUS FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR IS, IS IDENTIFIED AND KNOWN.
UM, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAS THE, UH, PERMISSION OF THE BOARD TO DO THAT.
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE FALL TIMING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT FISCAL, THAT FISCAL, UH, YEAR SURPLUS IS GENERATED BY BOTH IMPROVEMENTS IN REVENUE AND REDUCTIONS IN COSTS.
SO WHEN THE COUNTY HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE IN AND BE EFFICIENT IN, IN MANAGING THEIR BUDGET AND COME THROUGH THE YEAR WITH, WITH A, UH, BUDGET REDUCTION, WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
THAT'S THE COUNTY AND THE TAXPAYER WORKING TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO PAY BACK THAT CIP THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS US TO BUILD ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AND ADDITIONAL PARKS AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE LIKE IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
BUT IT'S A JOINT EFFORT AND THAT'S WHY IT'S DONE IN THE FALL.
PUTTING A LINE ITEM IN ON THE BUDGET IS JUST WRONG.
THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A, OF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT, AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT, IS A HALF A CENT ON REAL ESTATE OR 10 CENTS ON PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
WE NEED, WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER PULLING THAT OUTTA THE BUDGET AND RETURNING THAT MONEY.
WE'VE GENERATED 3.6, ROUGHLY 3.6, $3.7 MILLION IN SURPLUS, ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX OR TANGIBLE EQUIPMENT RELATED, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY.
UM, SO THAT'S GREAT AND WE'RE SPENDING IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE 3 CENTS WE'RE GIVING BACK.
BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF CUTTING OUR COSTS IN THIS BUDGET.
AND I THINK WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT.
WE'VE ASKED FOR OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TO COME FORWARD WITH WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN WE MAKE ON COST? HOW DO WE EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE COSTS ARE SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD OR DO WE NEED TO DO FURTHER, UH, DEEP DIVE INTO SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
I'VE REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL HALF CENT THAT WOULD BRING US TO THE 4 CENT LEVEL ON REDUCTION IN, UH, IN REAL ESTATE FOR THE YEAR.
I CONTINUE TO FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MAKE EFFORTS ON CUTTING OUR COSTS.
YOU'VE HEARD IT TONIGHT, YOU'VE HEARD IT IN THE FEBRUARY SESSION WHEN WE HAD THE LIBRARY SESSION.
PEOPLE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH THIS HUGE TAX INCREASE, THE ASSESSMENT INCREASE, ALTHOUGH, UH, AS MR. SHEPHERD POINTED OUT LAST MONTH, UH, 20%, UH, ASSESSMENT INCREASE FOR, UH, FOR THE AVERAGE HOME IN THIS COUNTY, UH, THE AVERAGE HOME BEING ABOUT $400,000 IN VALUE, THAT WAS $28 OR $30 PER MONTH.
BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AT THAT NUMBER AND ARE MUCH HIGHER, OR THEIR ASSESSMENTS CAME IN MUCH HIGHER AND THEIR SUFFERING.
AND WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
SO I, I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT WE AS A BOARD NEED TO WORK ON FURTHER REDUCTIONS ON OUR TAX RATE, AND I'VE MADE THAT PLEA SEVERAL TIMES.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED.
MAY I SAY SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
ONE OF THE, I AGREE WITH YOU A LOT.
I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAY, AND I THINK THE STAFF REALLY DOES LOOK AT ALL THE COSTS.
AND ONE THING THAT I LEARNED JUST THE OTHER DAY, I WAS IN THE 9 1 1 BUILDING AND REALIZED THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN A A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT AND HOW THEY USED THE MONEY EFFECTIVELY TO SAVE OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS THAT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO BE MADE.
SO THEN I ASKED STAFF IF THEY WOULD LOOK AT HOW MUCH HAVE HAS OUR EMPLOYEES SAVED THE COUNTY SO THAT THE TAXPAYERS COULD MANAGE, STILL HAVE THE THINGS THAT
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WE NEEDED TO DO, AND HOW MUCH HAD THEY RAISED? AND I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A HISTORY AS FAR AS OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN DOING.THEY ALWAYS LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAVE MONEY, TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT MAYBE IT DOESN'T FIT QUITE INTO THE COUNTY BUDGET.
AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT IN THIS PAST YEAR, A COMBINATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROGRAMS, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ENUMERATE THEM NOW.
I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU OUGHT TO KNOW THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE SAVED YOUR TAXPAYERS.
AND SO YOUR TAX BILL DID NOT GO UP ANY MORE THAN IT HAS $18 MILLION, 38,873 AND OH 31 CENTS.
AND THAT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL THE GRANTS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES APPLIED FOR SO THAT THEY COULD EFFICIENTLY PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SERVICES THAT YOU NEED AND ALSO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND NOT COST YOU ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE.
SO, DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET.
AND IF YOU WERE TO DIVIDE THAT BY, I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY VOTERS WE HAVE, I DIVIDED THE NUMBER BY 60,000 AND THAT WOULD SAVE EACH OF THOSE RESIDENTS $300.
I THINK THAT THE, THAT OUR EMPLOYEES CONSCIENTIOUSLY DO FOR THE CITIZENS.
AND YES, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HUGE, BUT COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP NOT ONLY JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT FOR THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
I SUPPOSE WE COULD CUT ALL THOSE SERVICES AND MAYBE THAT WOULD SAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T RECYCLE, BUT I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU THAT YOUR COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN THE WORK THAT WE DO TO PROTECT THE CHESAPEAKE BAY.
AND MOST OF THE POLLUTION THAT GOES INTO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY, BY THE WAY, COMES FROM THE LAND, NOT FROM THE BOATS AND THE SHIPS THAT ARE IN THE WATER.
WE DECIDED IF YOU'D WATCH THE WORK SESSION THE LAST TIME, THAT YES, THE COST FOR RECYCLING AND GARBAGE IS GOING UP.
IT HASN'T GONE UP FOR A WHILE AND IT HAD TO GO UP THIS TIME.
SO WE WILL SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANNA PARTAKE OF IT BECAUSE IT IS VOLUNTARY.
AND THEN AFTER WE GET THE RESULTS FOR THAT, WE WILL FIND OUT WHETHER WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE RECYCLING BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOES COST US MONEY, BUT THAT ALSO SAVES OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO I THINK WE CAN BE MYOPIC AND LOOK AT JUST US AND WHAT IT MEANS TO US.
BUT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WITH MANY PEOPLE AND WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE WHOLE, NOT JUST THE SINGLE PERSON.
AND I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH MANY, MANY BUDGETS AND I KNOW THAT THE STAFF SCRUBS ALL THE NUMBERS.
YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE NUMBERS, BUT THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE REAL NUMBERS.
THEY'RE NOT PATTING ANY, ANY BILLS OR ANY POCKETS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A RESERVE BECAUSE THE RESERVE PROTECTS OUR, OUR RATING, OUR BANK RATING SO THAT WE CAN BORROW MONEY AT, AT A LOWER RATE.
ALL THIS, ALL THIS FEEDS INTO WHAT IT TAKES TO DO A BUDGET.
AND I THINK I HAVE TO SAY, REGARDLESS OF HOW IT TURNS OUT, I THINK THAT OUR STAFF HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.
AND ANY QUESTION THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE HAD ABOUT THE BUDGET, THEY'VE GOTTEN ANSWERS.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE HAVE ASKED ABOUT STAFF, THEY'VE BEEN OVER BACKWARDS TO GIVE US THE ANSWERS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA HOLD MY COMMENTS TILL, UH, A LITTLE LATER, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KEEP HEARING THAT WE'RE DOING SO MUCH, UH, BETTER THAN ALL OUR JURISDICTIONS AROUND US, BUT THAT'S NOT WHO I HAVE TO ANSWER TO.
I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO JAMES CITY, WILLIAMSBURG NEW NEWS HAMPTON.
I HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING OUT HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMAILING ME AND CALLING ME AND STOPPING ME IN THE GROCERY STORE.
PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS BUDGET.
I'M UPSET ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I KNOW DOUG'S UPSET ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THERE.
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I HAVE CONTINUED TO PUSH FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER CENT.UM, I'M EVEN LOOKING FOR 15, 15, 20 CENTS OUT OF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CUT OUR BUDGET.
AND THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT COME HERE AND COME TO OUR PUBLIC FORUMS ARE ASKING US TO DO THAT.
AND THREE OF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, NO, IT'S OKAY.
I DON'T, I DON'T GET HOW YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE UPSET.
I DON'T TALK TO, I'VE NOT TALKED TO ANYBODY THAT SAID, HEY, I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THE NUMBERS.
NOBODY, NOBODY'S COME UP TO ME AND PATTED ME ON THE BACK AND SAID, GREAT JOB ON THAT BUDGET.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING NOT ONE PERSON.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING UP TO ME ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE BUDGET, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ENOUGH.
I THINK IT'S UP TO OUR, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND OUR, OUR FINANCE TEAM TO FIND MORE MONEY.
I KNOW THERE IS, LET ME TELL YOU, UM, EVERYBODY'S TRIMMED BACK.
I DON'T SEE THE TRIMMING AT YORK COUNTY.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHERE WE TRIM BUDGETS.
ALL I SEE IS WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN A BUDGET, IT WAS PROPOSED TO US AND WE'RE JUST FALLING OVER AND PLAYING DEAD AND GOING, OKAY, WELL THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
I I THINK WE'VE GOT MORE ROOM TO WORK AND I'M GONNA KEEP FIGHTING.
I KNOW DOUG'S GONNA KEEP FIGHTING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT ROOM TO WORK.
WE'VE ASKED FOR THE NUMBERS TO COME BACK.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THOSE BACK FROM THE DIRECTOR WHERE ANOTHER CENT CAN COME FROM.
THEN WE GET TO DECIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THEY BRING US THE NUMBERS BACK AND IF WE GO, YEAH, WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO TRIM IT, WE'LL TRIM IT.
IF NOT, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST LOOK FOR ANOTHER CENTER OR TWO.
SO I'M GONNA WRAP THINGS UP ON, ON THIS WITH A COUPLE, COUPLE OF COMMENTS, COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
SO I LIKE HAVING OPTIONS TO WORK WITH.
ONE OPTION WE WORK WITH SO FAR IN THIS BUDGET IS THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
ANOTHER OPTION WE WORKED WITH WAS ELIMINATING THE CAR REGISTRATION FEE.
THAT IS SOMETHING I WAS PUSHING IN FOR SINCE THE LAST BUDGET.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MADE INTO THIS BUDGET THAT GETS THAT ARCHAIC, UH, FEE TAX OUT OF, OUT OUR, OUT OF OUR HANDS.
SO FOR EVERY VEHICLE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU WON'T SEE THAT ANY ANYMORE.
UM, ANOTHER OPTION I WANT US TO EXPLORE AND I, AND I PUT THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF MR. BELLAMY AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WAS A RED AN AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION, ANOTHER OPTION TO WORK WITH IN A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPTION, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO TURN THAT KNOB DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND GET SOME COST SAVINGS OUT OF THAT.
UM, NOT EVERYBODY LIVES IN YORK COUNTY, WHO'S YORK COUNTY RESIDENT LIVES HERE, UH, OWNS PROPERTY.
BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY THAT DOES LIVE HERE, IT'S A, OWNS AT LEAST ONE VEHICLE.
SO THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ACTUALLY OWNS PROPERTY AND OWNS VEHICLE TWO.
AND YOU OWN MULTIPLE VEHICLES, YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE AN, AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE AS YOU DIAL THAT DIAL THAT DIAL BACK.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL BE WORKING ON BETWEEN NOW IN MAY TO MAKING ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT TO THIS BUDGET.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT OPTIONS, GIVES US ABILITY TO AFFECT MORE PEOPLE POSITIVELY AND THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL THE RES IN ONE BASKET, SO GONNA CONTINUE WORK ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND MAY 7TH.
UM, SECOND OF ALL, SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE VERY, WE MEANING THIS BOARD UP HERE AND THE COUNTY STAFF NEED TO BE VERY, UH, COGNIZANT OF IS THE FACT THAT WHAT OUR DECISION ON MAY 7TH, WHATEVER THAT IS, HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR FINANCIAL STABILITY IN THE FUTURE.
WE CANNOT MAKE A DECISION THAT'S RIGHT BASED UPON JUST A SINGLE FISCAL YEAR.
WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE FORECAST TO GO IF WE DO A THING ON MAY 7TH, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE OUT YEARS GOING OUT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND AND WE HAVE FORECAST OUT THERE THAT SHOW IF YOU HAVE IT AT 77, IF YOU HAVE IT AT 74, IF YOU HAVE IT AT 73.
AND WE HAD TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DO NOT FIND OURSELVES IN THE SAME POSITION AS SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE.
THAT IS NOT BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
THAT PUTS A BURDEN ON ON OUR, ON OUR RESIDENTS, WHO DEPEND ON US FOR STABILITY.
AND THAT DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT, A LOT OF CONFIDENCE.
SO WHATEVER WE DECIDE, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE THINKING NOT JUST FISCAL YEAR 2025, BUT FISCAL YEAR IS 20 26, 27 AND 28.
WE HAVE THE FORECAST IN FRONT OF US.
WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND MAKE DECISIONS NOT JUST FOR NEXT YEAR BUT THE YEAR'S GOING UP.
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UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON AND WE'LL GO BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDER ADOPTION, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 64, UH, FOR SWAG AUTOMOTIVE.
AND WE'RE GONNA CALL ON MS. CAITLYN ABBU FOR MS SWAG.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, WERE, WERE YOU GOING TO DISCUSS THE UH, SOLID WASTE? THE SOLID WASTE? WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL GO BACK TO ORDER 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON APPLICATION FOR THAT SO, OKAY.
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OH, OKAY.IS UPDATING YOUR SLIDES TOO THAT YOU GONNA SHOW? YES.
I WANTED TO PRINT IT OUT A LITTLE LARGER FOR Y'ALL THAN THE EIGHT 11.
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AN APPLICATION.
THIS IS UM, A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE AN AUTO BODY SERVICE SHOP.
UH, SPECIFICALLY THIS WOULD BE LIMITED TO OL VINYL RAMPING AND WINDOW TINTING.
AND THAT'S AT 5 37 A SECOND STREET.
I'VE OUTLINED THE PARCEL THERE FOR YOU IN BRIGHT BLUE.
UM, YOU'LL NOTE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS A PARENT PARCEL 5 37, WHICH IS RIGHT AHEAD OF IT FRONT SECOND STREET COMBINE.
THESE TWO PARCELS ARE A LITTLE OVER HALF AN ACRE IN SIZE.
THEY ARE ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS AND DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU'LL NOTICE ON MY ZONING MAP HERE, UM, MOST OF THE ADJACENT PARCELS ARE ALSO GENERAL BUSINESS.
IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS MIDDLETOWN FARMS, WHICH IS ZONE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE APPLICANT TONIGHT, UM, IS A TENANT IN THE PARKWAY PRINT SHOP BUILDING AND I'VE KIND OF SHOWN THE BREAKUP.
SO THE TENANT IS IN ABOUT A 1900 SQUARE FOOT UNIT AT THE REAR OF THE PRINT SHOP THAT'S IN THAT BLUE DASHED LINE.
THE LIME GREEN DASH REPRESENTS THE REST OF THE PRINT SHOP AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE BUILDING TO LOCATE AND GET TO THE APPLICANT'S UNIT.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA, AND I'VE JUST KIND OF PROVIDED A PHOTO WALKTHROUGH HERE.
YOU'RE GONNA APPROACH PARKWAY PRINT SHOP THAT'S LOOKING FROM SECOND STREET.
YOU'RE GONNA GO DOWN A SIDE DRIVEWAY AND THEN THAT IS UM, THE APPLICANT'S SWAG AUTOMOTIVE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
THEY HAVE A DOOR AND THEY ALSO HAVE A GARAGE DOOR AS WELL IN THEIR UNIT.
SO THE PROPOSED USE IS LEND LIMITED AUTO BODY WORK, AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY VE VEHICLE WINDOW TINT AND VINYL WRAPPING, UM, SWAG SERVICES CARS MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM EIGHT TO SIX WITHIN A 1900 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE UNIT.
I WANNA GIVE UH, SOME CONTEXT AS WELL TO KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THIS APPLICATION AND WHAT SORT OF PROMPTED IT IN 2002 CHROMATIC WRAPS.
THIS IS THE PRIOR OWNER OF THE BUSINESS THAT THE APPLICANT NOW OWNS, GOT THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE FROM THE COUNTY.
THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION NOTICED THAT THE BUSINESS WAS DOING PRINTING VINYL WRAPS AND CAR TINTING AS PART OF AN EXISTING PRINT SHOP.
WHAT HAPPENED IS OUR ZONING DEPARTMENT ACCIDENTALLY OVERLOOKED THE AUTO USE, WHICH THAT WOULD'VE REQUIRED AN SEP.
AND SO THE LICENSE WAS ISSUED AN ERROR WITHOUT THE OWNER AT THE TIME BEING NOTIFIED.
SO WE FAST FORWARD JULY, 2023.
THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY SWAG AUTOMOTIVE.
THEY PURCHASE THE AUTO BUSINESS FROM CHROMATIC.
WHEN THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROCESS FOR SWAG, IT PROCESSED THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE AS A EXISTING BUSINESS CHANGE IN OWNER.
SO IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE ZONING REVIEW LIKE IT WOULD FOR A BRAND NEW BUSINESS.
SO AGAIN, THE FACT THAT NSP IS NEEDED GETS MISSED.
FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY CAME TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR AN UNRELATED ISSUE AND THEY NOTICED THAT THE AUTO BUSINESS WAS IN THE REAR UNIT AT THIS TIME.
ZONING WAS NOTIFIED THEN AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SWAG SINCE THEN TO GONNA GO THROUGH THIS USE PERMIT PROCESS, GET THE USE PERMIT AND THEN BRING THEM INTO ZONING COMPLIANCE.
I WANNA NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PURSUED THEIR SEP IN GOOD FAITH AND THEY'VE REALLY WORKED WITH STAFF TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
ZONING OFFICE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CURRENT APPLICANT AND ALSO THE PRIOR BUSINESS OWNER.
SINCE THEY'VE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2022, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEIR USE.
BRIEFLY, WE WANTED TO DESCRIBE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.
UM, WE HAVE ARBY'S IN THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE EAST IS THE LOYALTY.
CHEVROLET DEALERSHIP SOUTH IS MIDDLETOWN FARMS AND THEN TO THE WEST IS ABBY'S AUTOBODY SHOP AND THEN VIRGINIA BEER COMPANY.
BEYOND THAT, JUST A COUPLE PHOTOS FOR YOU.
PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS THE CHEVY DEALERSHIP PHOTO.
ON THE RIGHT IS ABBY'S PHOTO ON THE LEFT, WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS SECOND STREET.
AND THEN THAT PHOTO ON THE RIGHT WE'RE AT THE REAR OF THE SITE LOOKING TOWARDS MIDDLETOWN FARMS. THE DISTANCE FROM THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO THE NEAREST RESIDENCE IN MILLTOWN FARMS IS ABOUT 217 FEET.
WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS ISN'T REPRESENTED ON THE AERIAL UNFORTUNATELY 'CAUSE IT'S FROM 2021.
SO PARKWAY PRINT SHOP INSTALLED THIS CONCRETE PAD AT THE REAR OF THE SITE.
AND SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE A DISTANCE FROM THE EDGE OF THAT CONCRETE PAD TO THE RESIDENCE AS WELL, WHICH IS ABOUT 147 FEET.
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THERE'S AN EXISTING WOODED BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL AND THIS COMMERCIAL PARCEL MEASURED ABOUT 19 FEET.THAT STAFF HAS PROPOSED ALSO AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT FOOT HIGH OPAQUE FENCE AND THAT'S TO BUFFER THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND I'VE GIVEN YOU ALSO THE SKETCH PLAN.
UM, THIS IS UPDATED FROM WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
SO THE MAIN ADDITION, UM, YOU'LL SEE EIGHT FOOT FENCES REPRESENTED ALSO IN EVERGREEN, UM, SIX FOOT SHRUB.
SO WHAT OCCURRED, UM, LAST WEEK, THE APPLICANT MET WITH SOME ADJACENT RESIDENTS IN MIDDLETOWN FARMS. THEY HAD A DISCUSSION IN ADDITION TO THE FENCE WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO AGAIN BUFFER THEIR USE FROM THE RESIDENCE.
AND THERE'S KIND OF AN AGREEMENT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FENCE TO SCREEN A GAP, WE'D HAVE THIS SHRUB INSTALLED.
UM, ALSO SHOWN ON THE SKETCH PLAN, THERE'S GONNA BE FIVE PARKING SPACES THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE AUTO USE BY ITSELF IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING PARKING FOR THE PRINT SHOP THAT PROBABLY HAVE TO BE LOCATED ON THE REAR OF THE SITE, FRONT OF THE SITE, UM, CONTAINS ALL THE PARKING FOR THE PRINT SHOPS.
SO AGAIN, IF THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN PARKING SPACES, THEY'RE KIND OF PROBABLY HAVE TO COME BACK HERE.
THAT'S JUST A VIEW OF THE CONCRETE PAD AND THE DUMPSTER.
AND THEN THAT'S JUST A VIEW OF THE WOODS, NOT THE REAR OF THE SITE.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, WORK ONLY INCURRING INDOORS.
AGAIN, THAT EIGHT FOOT HIGH OPAQUE FENCE, NO OUTDOOR STORAGE AND MOTOR VEHICLE PARTS REQUIRING THOSE FIVE PARKING SPACES.
UM, ALSO NOTING HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, EIGHT TO SIX.
UM, ONE POINT, IF YOU GO ON TO SWAGS BUSINESS WEBSITE, YOU NOTICE THEY SAY THEY'RE OPEN EIGHT TO FIVE.
THEY DON'T ACCEPT APPOINTMENTS AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO I CAN'T WALK IN WITH MY CAR AND GET MY WINDOWS TINTED, BUT THEY DO OPERATE UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK TO FINISH UP.
STAFF FEELS THAT THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL DUE PROVIDE ADEQUATE SAFEGUARDS FOR ESPECIALLY THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES.
UM, ADDITIONALLY I WANNA NOTE YOU HAVE A REVISED RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, THE REVISION FOR THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT'S FOR THAT EVERGREEN SHRUB.
AND AGAIN, THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS A COMPATIBLE USE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
IT'S ON A COMMERCIAL PARCEL, IT'S SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL PARCELS AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY LOWER INTENSITY AS AN AUTO USE AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER AUTO USES NEXT TO IT.
CHEVY DEALERSHIP ABBY'S AND ULTIMATELY THEY DO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ZONING ORDINANCE STANDARDS.
THERE IS A CONCURRENT SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR PARKWAY PRINT SHOP.
UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS CONCRETE PAD WERE INSTALLED WITHOUT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN IN TO AUTHORIZE THOSE.
IDEALLY THIS WOULD RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO DO AND THEY CAN BE APPROVED IN TANDEM.
THEREFORE, STAFF'S GONNA RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REVISED RESOLUTION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT FOR THIS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS MR DURY? I I GUESS THAT, UH, IT'S JUST FOR WINDOW TINTING AND CAR WRAP.
AND THE RESOLUTION PROVIDES THAT RESTRICTION SO THEY CAN'T GO DO PAINTING OR OTHER LIKE, LIKE COLLISION REPAIR.
ALRIGHT, MR. SHEPHERD? YEAH, JUST SAY, IT STRIKES ME THIS IS WAY, WAY LESS CONTENTIOUS THAN THE, WHAT IS IT? EVIE'S? IS THAT THE NAME OF THE YEAH, EVIE'S WHEN IT FIRST CAME IN, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A REAL FUR BALL DOWN THERE.
SO THIS IS, THIS TO ME IS NOT AN ISSUE.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY? YEAH, A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UM, AS CAITLYN'S AWARE, I, I MET WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS LAST, UH, THURSDAY ALONG WITH DARRELL.
UM, THIS IS WHEN THE IDEA OF THE SHRUB CAME UP, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, HAVING SHOWN UP TONIGHT.
THEY'RE NOT HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DECISION AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT, UH, IT WAS PRETTY, UH, PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO MR. DRURY ASKED ABOUT THE ALL THEY'RE GONNA DO WINDOW TINTING AND WRAP.
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST WINDOW TINTED.
ARE THEY WRAPPING VEHICLES AS WELL? YEAH, VINYL WRAP.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION WHERE, UM, THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH WHERE THEY STATE THE USE, IT'S IN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
SO THERE'S NO, NO CHANGE IN THE BUSINESS MODEL? NO.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WASN'T A SITE PLAN FOR THE PAD, SO THEY SUBMITTED ONE PARKWAY PRINT SHOP PADS.
YEAH, THEY, THEY, UH, CONSTRUCTED THAT CONCRETE PAD AND PUT THE DUMPSTER BACK THERE WITHOUT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO ZONING HAS A, UM, PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY
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IN REVIEW WITH THE DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO AUTHORIZE THOSE IMPROVEMENT.BUT THAT'S REALLY, UM, PREROGATIVE OF PARKWAY PRINT SHOP AS THE PROPERTY OWNER SINCE THEY DID THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE APPROVE THIS APPLICATION BUT THE SITE PLAN IS REJECTED OR ULTIMATELY THEY PRO? WELL, SO THE PARKWAY WAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR NOT HAVING A SITE PLAN.
SO IDEALLY THE OUTCOME IS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THAT ZONING ENFORCEMENT WOULD COMPEL THEM TO GET A SITE PLAN IN TO IMPROVE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THESE FOLKS SINCE THEY ARE THE TENANT.
UM, AND MR. HILL CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE ULTIMATELY THE ONUS DOES FALL BACK ON THE PROPERTY ORDER TO INSTALL IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER, IF THE USE PERMITS FOR THEIR THIS APPLICANT'S BUSINESS AND THEY WANT TO GET THEIR USE PERMIT, IDEALLY THEY HAVE SOME VESTED INTEREST IN INSTALLING THOSE, SO.
DOES, DOES APPLICANT LIKE TO COME AND SHARE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? YOU HAVEN'T ANSWER ANY.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NOPE.
UH, SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THAT.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION? ALRIGHT, CNN, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE R 24 DASH 64 R.
UM, SO GO MOVE INTO THE BOARD COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS.
NOTHING FURTHER TO WHAT I'VE ALREADY SAID.
ALRIGHT, MS. SHEPHERD, NO COMMENT.
YEAH, I, I THINK THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IS THIS EXISTING BUSINESS ALREADY OPERATING THERE? IT'S SLIGHT TO ME A SLIGHT CHANGE TO HOW THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE.
SAME SERVICES, SAME TIMEFRAME, SAME LACK OF IMPACT.
SO, UH, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S INPUT.
SO, I MEAN, THIS IS TO ME A, A, UH, WIN-WIN ALL THE WAY OR AROUND, SO.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL CLOSE BOARD COMMENTS AND I WILL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. HORO IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 64 R TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED.
[ 4 Application No. YVA-54-24, Dockmaster Building. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-66 to approve a Yorktown Village Activity Permit to authorize an increase in lot coverage and height for the proposed replacement of the existing Dockmaster and Restroom buildings within a single structure at 425 and 323Z Water Street. ]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 66, UH, DOCK MASTER BUILDING TO APPROVE A YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE AND HEIGHT FOR THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING DOCK MASTER AND RESTROOM BUILDINGS.
HEY, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR YVA APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE AND HEIGHT FOR THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE AND RESTROOM BUILDINGS WITHIN A SINGLE STRUCTURE AT 4 25 AND 3 23 Z WATER STREET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED YVA FOR YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY AND DESIGNATED YORKTOWN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE 3.7 ACRES COMBINED SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS TO THE SOUTH INCLUDE THE ARCHER PARKING LOT, THE YORKTOWN PUB, THE FORMER SITE OF LARRY'S LEMONADE, THE YORKTOWN BEACH HOTEL, BEN AND JERRY'S ICE CREAM SHOP, AUNTIE EM'S, AMERICAN COTTAGE SHOP, AND THE RIVERWALK LANDING PARKING TERRACE AND TO THE WEST ARE THE SPECTRUM PARKING LOT AND THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM.
SO I'M GONNA START BY GIVING YOU, UM, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
BOTH THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE AND ADJACENT PUBLIC RESTROOM BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN THE 1970S.
THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY USED AS A SUMMER LIFEGUARD BUILDING.
TODAY IT SERVES NOT ONLY AS THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE, BUT AS A DEFACTO INFORMATION CENTER BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY BUILDING WHERE VISITORS CAN SPEAK WITH COUNTY STAFF ON THE RIVERFRONT.
BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR SEASONAL USE, THEY LACK CLIMATE CONTROL.
THE ABSENCE OF HEATING AND THE AGE OF THE PIPES MEAN THE RESTROOMS MUST BE CLOSED FOR UP TO FIVE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR TO PREVENT THE PIPES FROM FREEZING AND BURSTING.
FURTHERMORE, THE RESTROOMS DO NOT MEET AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OR A DA STANDARDS.
FOR THESE REASONS, COUNTY STAFF PROPOSED A NEW FACILITY TO REPLACE THE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS IN ITS 2018 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.
THE NEW TWO STORY FACILITY WOULD HOUSE THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC RESTROOMS, BUT WOULD ALSO SERVE AS A TOURISM INFORMATION CENTER AND WATERFRONT OPERATIONS OFFICE.
IN JUNE OF 2023, THE HISTORIC YORKTOWN DESIGN COMMITTEE, OR HYDC REVIEWED THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND
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VOTED TO DENY THE PRO PROPOSAL DUE IN LARGE PART TO CONCERNS OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.FOLLOWING THE DENIAL BY THE HYDC AND A SUBSEQUENT DENIAL BY THE BOARD STAFF HELD A PUBLIC FORM TO GAIN INPUT ON AN APPROPRIATE DESIGN.
BASED ON THAT INPUT, STAFF DOWNSIZED THE DESIGN TO A ONE STORY BUILDING AND PROPOSED A SEPARATE BUILDING BEHIND THE RIVERWALK LANDING PARKING TERRACE TO HOUSE THE INTENDED, UM, FUNCTIONS OF THE PREVIOUSLY PLANNED SECOND STORY.
THIS SEPARATE BUILDING WOULD SERVE AS A WATERFRONT OPERATIONS STAFF BUILDING THE APPLICATION FOR WHICH YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT.
SO NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE, I'LL DISCUSS STAFF'S, UH, CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS.
SO I'M GONNA START BY SHOWING YOU A 3D RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING PRODUCED BY MIKE LEONARD FROM OUR VIDEO SERVICES TEAM WITH PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
AND BY SHOWING YOU THE ELEVATIONS FOR EACH SIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, THIS APPLICATION REQUESTS YVA APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA FOR THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE STATES, UH, A PROPOSED ENLARGEMENT OR EXPANSION THAT WOULD RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF 25% OR MORE IN FLOOR AREA SHALL BE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES.
FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS, THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT WOULD BE 796 SQUARE FEET LARGER THAN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, WHICH REPRESENTS AN APPROXIMATE 74% INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA.
THIS APPLICATION ALSO REQUESTS YVA APPROVAL FOR AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE STIPULATES THAT THE HEIGHT OF ANY STRUCTURE SHALL NOT EXCEED 25 FEET.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD MAY AUTHORIZE A GREATER HEIGHT AFTER AN EVALUATION OF THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE SPACIAL RELATIONSHIPS OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS, THE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURE PROPOSED, AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON ANY SCENIC VIEWS OR VISTAS.
THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING MEASURED FROM THE GROUND TO THE ROOF LINE IS 23 FEET AND 10 INCHES.
HOWEVER, THE DESIGN INCLUDES A CUPOLA, WHICH BRINGS THE TOTAL HEIGHT TO 30 FEET AND THREE INCHES.
THE HYDC EVALUATED TWO VERSIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING IN FEBRUARY, ONE WITH THE CUPOLA AND ONE WITHOUT THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO APPROVE THE VERSION OF THE BUILDING WITH THE CUPOLA CITING THE DESIRE FOR CONFORMITY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL VERNACULAR OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
MANY OF THE STRUCTURES IN THE ADJACENT RIVERWALK LANDING, UH, FEATURE CUPOLAS AND HEIGHTS THAT EXCEED 25 FEET BECAUSE THE BULK OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING DOES NOT EXCEED THE 25 FOOT ZONING ORDINANCE STANDARD.
AND THE CUPOLA IS A NARROW FEATURE.
STAFF BELIEVE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WOULD NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE VIEW OF THE RIVER.
SO DUE TO THE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED NATURE OF YORKTOWN.
THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT NEVER HAD A DESIGNATED PARKING LOT.
LIKEWISE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT INCLUDE PARKING.
VISITORS OF YORKTOWN OFTEN PARK IN ONE OF THE ADJACENT OR NEARBY PUBLIC PARKING LOTS AND THEN WALK TO THE BEACH, RESTAURANTS, MUSEUMS, AND SHOPS.
THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY ZONING DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR A VARIETY OF LAND USES, WHICH WILL CONTRIBUTE TO AND COMPLEMENT THE UNIQUE CHARACTER AND VILLAGE ATMOSPHERE AND PROMOTING IMPROVED LEVEL OF AMENITIES.
THE PROPOSED NEW STRUCTURE WOULD IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF AMENITIES BY ADDING A DA ACCESSIBLE RESTROOMS TO THE WATERFRONT, AND BY SERVING AS A CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE VISITORS CAN ACCESS SERVICES AND INFORMATION.
BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING STRUCTURES WITH A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR LARGELY THE SAME PURPOSE.
STAFF BELIEVES THE USE REMAINS APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WOULD REPRESENT A 74% INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA, MOSTLY BECAUSE THE NEW BUILDING WOULD FILL THE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING STRUCTURES, BUT A PORTION OF THE RIVER WOULD BE VISIBLE THROUGH THE BUILDING'S, WINDOWS AND DOORS.
AND STAFF BELIEVES THE INCREASE IN FLOOR AREA WOULD HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
FINALLY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A BUILDING HEIGHT THAT EXCEEDS THE 25 FOOT STANDARD OUTLINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE ROOF LINE ONLY REACHES THE HEIGHT OF 23 FEET AND 10 INCHES, AND ONLY THE NARROW CUPOLA EXTENDS BEYOND THIS STANDARD.
STAFF BELIEVES THE IMPACT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE.
FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 24 DASH 66.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION AT ITS MARCH 13TH MEETING AND VOTED SIX TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO DO SO AS WELL.
I'LL LOOK TO MR. DREWRY, LEAD US OFF.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS NEW BUILDING AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF RESIDENTS HAVE GONE DOWN THERE,
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UH, TO SEE THE OPERATIONS OR WHAT.UH, AS, AS YOU SAID, THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES.
UH, IT IS AN OUTDATED BUILDING.
UM, THE DOCK MASTER FACILITY DOWN THERE IS A, A CLOSET REALLY.
UH, IF YOU GO IN THERE, I WENT IN THERE THIS SUMMER BECAUSE I LOST A PAIR OF GLASSES ON 4TH OF JULY THAT WERE PRESCRIPTION AND THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE IN THERE AND THEY WERE ALL OVER TOP OF EACH OTHER.
I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE TO SIT DOWN.
SO I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE BUILDING'S GOTTA BE UPDATED.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH A, UM, A BUNCH OF RENDITIONS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT THE FREIGHT SHED, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS.
I REALLY THINK THE NEW DESIGN IS WAY, WAY BETTER.
UH, AND I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE OUR BATH FACILITIES DOWN THERE.
I'M NOT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, BUT THIS ONE MAKES SENSE TO ME.
THE NEXT BUILDING YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT WE'LL GET THERE.
UH, THIS ONE I FEEL LIKE IS, HAS MERIT AND I THINK WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT BUILDING IT.
IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR BEACH, AND TO ME IT'S, IT NEEDS AN UPGRADE.
SO, MR. SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF, UH, BACK WHEN WE FIRST BUILT, UH, ALL THE WORK DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, DESIGNS AND EVERYTHING ARE BETTER WHEN YOU INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN, IN THE, IN, IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S AROUND THEIR HOMES.
UM, YEAH, THEY COME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING THERE THINKING IT'S JUST, IT TOOK 13 YEARS TO BUILD THE THING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, WHEN I SAY THE THING, THAT 25,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA, UH, IT TURNED OUT TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED ALL OVER VIRGINIA AS A BEAUTIFUL AREA.
SO THIS, I THINK THIS IS FITS IN THERE.
WE NEEDED TO, WE NEEDED TO UPGRADE.
IT LOOKS, THE OLD BUILDING'S OLD AND IT'S DONE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, GREAT, UH, IDEA.
I HAVE TO AGREE THAT IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT THAT BUILDING BE REPLACED.
AND I THINK THIS, THIS DESIGN IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THAT WE HAD BEFORE, BUT, WELL, NOT AN ARCHITECT ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE BUILDING WHEN, IF WE APPROVE IT, I BELIEVE, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS, UM, BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
SO GOOD, GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO YES, SO ONCE WE RECEIVE APPROVAL, WE'LL HAVE AN ARCHITECT LOOK AT THE BUILDING, LOOK AT AN ENGINEERING FIRM, LOOK AT THE BUILDING.
IT WAS THE PREVIOUS BOARD'S DIRECTION TO, TO APPROACH THE, THE BUILDING AND, AND THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS IN, IN THIS MANNER.
UM, THAT WAY WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SUNK COST WITHOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS WITH THE CITIZENS AND THE BOARD.
SO, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
YEAH, NO, I, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT I'M GLAD AN ARCHITECT IS GONNA DO IT.
'CAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE QUESTION ABOUT, NOW THAT WE'VE LOWERED THE ROOF, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE CUPOLA IS, SHOULD BE THERE BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THREE CUPS CUPOLAS CLOSE TOGETHER.
BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO WHAT THE ARCHITECT DECIDES, IS IT AESTHETICALLY PLEAING TO THAT AREA.
WELL, THINKING BACK TO THE COMMENTS FROM LAST, I GUESS, NOVEMBER, UH, I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE UGLY DUCKLING, UM,
SO I'M, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH IT.
UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO COST, SO I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
IS THIS WITHIN THE CIP BUDGET THAT WE HAD SET FOR THIS BUILDING? UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, YES, SIR.
UM, SO I THINK WE CAN ALL PROBABLY AGREE THAT THE YORKTOWN BEACH FRONT OF THE SEVENTIES IS PROBABLY A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE YORKTOWN BEACH FRONTS OF THE MID 2020S.
AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE AN EVALUATION OF THE FACILITIES DOWN THERE AND SAY, HEY, DO WE NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT? AND HAVING A BATHROOM FACILITIES THAT PREDATES A DA COMPLIANCY AND IS NOT A DA COMPLIANT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO CLOSE ROUGHLY HALF THE YEAR, IS PROBABLY NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE TOURISM INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE TRYING, THAT WE HAVE HAVE DOWN THERE.
WE WANNA SUPPORT, LIKEWISE, THE, UM, THE DOCK MASTER BUILDING, WHICH IS BE A LIFEGUARD STATION.
IT'S TOTALLY, TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW.
SO WE NEED, SO WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
NOW WE, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE FOOTPRINT, BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF WHERE THE TWO BUILDINGS EXIST.
WE'RE NOT EXPANDING BEYOND THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TODAY.
UH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO USE MORE OF THAT FOOTPRINT THAN WHAT'S IN USE TODAY, WHICH EQUATES TO A GREATER SQUARE, SQUARE FOOTAGE IN USE.
SO, UM, I LIKE THE CHANGE OF COURSE THAT WE MADE LAST YEAR.
I LIKE THAT WE PULLED IN THE PUBLIC AND GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON, OR WE GAVE EVERYBODY OPPOSITE LOOK AT, UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT WE SEE HERE IN THE RENDERING IS THE WIN IN, UH, RENDERING.
AND, UM, AGAIN, I I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT, THIS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THE RIGHT, RIGHT TIME.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL PROBABLY BREAK GRIND UNTIL OFF SEASON, SO NOBODY WILL SEE ANY CHANGES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
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UM, IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.AND WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT FOR IT.
THE, UH, WASHROOM FACILITIES AT THE FRONT ALSO LOOKS MUCH, MUCH BETTER.
ORIGINALLY WE HAD A DOOR THAT LED RIGHT INTO THE OFFICE, CHANGED A LOT, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN AND THAT'S BEEN FIXED.
AND THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE DESIGN.
YOU GUYS WERE, WERE GREAT IN KIND OF THAT, THAT FEEDBACK PROCESS AND KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, GETTING FINAL.
I'M SURE YOU LOVE US, NITPICKING IT APART IN ALL FIVE OF US, BUT IT WAS GREAT.
UM, I JUST HOPE YOU GOING, GOING FORWARD, WE'VE LEARNED A LESSON, RIGHT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
INSTEAD OF THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT HADN'T BEEN REALLY VETTED BY THE PUBLIC PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE USING IT AND SEEING IT.
SO I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A LESSON MOVING FORWARD THAT WE GET THAT PUBLIC OPINION IN.
UM, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? MR. REBEL ON REBEL 2 0 5 SHADY OF BLUFF POINT? I MAY BE VERY, VERY QUICK.
UH, WE'RE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT WAYNE JUST SAID.
I THINK WITH THE YORKTOWN PUB UH, REDESIGN PROJECT IN THIS ONE, THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD WORK IN THE FUTURE.
AND I JUST COMMEND YOU ALL FOR, UH, ADJUSTING ON THE DOCK MASTER.
WE WERE THAT CLOSE WITHIN MINUTES OF APPROVING THAT THING.
WE FORGET THAT PART, BUT WE REALLY WERE, AND NOW WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I'M JUST IN FULL SUPPORT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, C NNN, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO PROVE RESOLUTION R 25 DASH 65.
UM, I'LL MOVE TO BOARD COMMENTS, BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, BUT I'LL JUST LOOK AROUND REAL QUICK.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADD ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? NO.
SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 66 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AT SUBMITTED.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 67, UH, SIX YEAR SECONDARY.
NO, NO, YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER, HOLD ON.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CALLED THE LAST 1 65.
ALL RIGHT, JUST THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION.
I FLIPPED TOO MANY PAGES OVER.
BY THE WAY, IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL COULD SEE THE PAPERWORK UP, UP HERE, JUST
SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE RESOLUTION NUMBER, THAT'S R 24 DASH 65.
OKAY, NOW I'M, NOW I'M BACK ON ORDER.
FLIP THE ONE PAGE OVER TOO SOON.
SO MINE, THAT LOOKS LIKE YOUR STEVEN MINE LOOKS LIKE THIS.
WELL, YOUR, YOUR TIME'S COMING.
SO SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION FOLKS.
[5 Application No. YVA-53-24, Waterfront Operations Building. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-65 to approve a Yorktown Village Activity Permit to authorize an office building on portions of three parcels at 104 Buckner Street, 110 Buckner Street, and 113 Martiau Street, and unaddressed parcels on Buckner Street. ]
FIVE, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 65, WHICH IS THE WATERFRONT OPERATION BUILDING TO APPROVE A YORK TIME VILLAGE ACTIVITY PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN OFFICE BUILDING ON THREE PARCELS.THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR YVA APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE A NEW OPERATIONS BUILDING ON PORTIONS OF FOUR PARCELS LOCATED AT ONE 13 MARTEL STREET, 1 0 4, 1 10, AND TWO UNADDRESSED PROPERTIES ON BUCKNER STREET.
THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED IN THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED YVA FOR YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY AND DESIGNATED YORKTOWN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH INCLUDE AUNTIE EM'S, AMERICAN COTTAGE SHOP, THE RIVER WALK, LANDING PARKING TERRACE, AND BEN AND JERRY'S ICE CREAM SHOP TO THE EAST IS KISKI WATCH SUBDIVISION COMMON AREA.
AND TO THE WEST IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME ON AMBLER STREET AND WINDMILL POINT 1711 SUBDIVISION COMMON AREA.
SO I'M GONNA START BY GIVING YOU AN ABBREVIATED BACKGROUND INFORMATION REFRESHER.
IN 2018, COUNTY STAFF PROPOSED A NEW FACILITY TO REPLACE THE, UH, DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC RESTROOM BUILDINGS.
THE NEW TO A STORY FACILITY WOULD SERVE, UH, WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE AS THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE AND OFFER PUBLIC RESTROOMS, BUT WOULD ALSO SERVE AS A TOURISM INFORMATION CENTER AND WATERFRONT OPERATIONS
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OFFICE.IN 2023, THE HYDC VOTED TO DENY THE PROPOSAL DUE IN LARGE PART, TO CONCERNS OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
UH, FOLLOWING THIS AND A SUBSEQUENT DENIAL BY THE BOARD, UH, STAFF HELD A PUBLIC FORUM TO GAIN INPUT ON AN APPROPRIATE DESIGN.
BASED ON THAT INPUT, STAFF DOWNSIZED THE DESIGN FOR THE DOCK MASTER BUILDING TO A ONE STORY STRUCTURE AND PROPOSED A SEPARATE WATERFRONT OPERATIONS BUILDING TO HOUSE THE INTENDED FUNCTIONS OF THE PREVIOUSLY PLANNED SECOND STORY.
SO, MOVING ON TO STAFF'S CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS, THE 1,860 SQUARE FOOT PROPOSED WATERFRONT OPERATIONS BUILDING WOULD BE LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE RIVERWALK LANDING PARKING TERRACE AND WOULD HAVE A RETAINING WALL AROUND THREE SIDES.
I'VE INCLUDED THE CONCEPT RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS APPLICATION REQUESTS YBA APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE A NEW USE IN THE YBA ZONING DISTRICT.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE STATES ANY PROPOSED NEW USE OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS OR ANY SUBDIVISION OF LAND SHALL BE APPROVED ONLY BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
THIS CODE SECTION IS WHAT ESTABLISHES THE NECESSITY FOR YVA APPROVAL.
ACCORDING, ACCORDING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE SHALL BE NO MINIMUM FRONT SIDE OR REAR YARD REQUIREMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE YBA DISTRICT PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT YARDS AND SETBACKS OF AN APPROPRIATE DIMENSION SHALL BE PROVIDED, PROVIDED WHERE DETERMINED NECESSARY BY THE BOARD TO ENSURE ADEQUATE EMERGENCY ACCESS, LIGHT AND AIR TO PROTECT THE VALUE AND UTILIZATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WOULD SPAN PORTIONS OF FOUR PARCELS, AND THE RETAINING WALL IS PLANNED TO OVERLAP EXISTING PROPERTY LINES.
ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO VACATE FOUR PROPERTY LINES, WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE NECESSARY EMERGENCY ACCESS, LIGHT, AND AIR AROUND THE STRUCTURE.
THE PROPOSED OFFICE WOULD HAVE SPACE FOR THREE FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS AND A BREAK ROOM FOR UP TO 25 WORKERS REQUIRED EMPLOYEES.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD NOT, UH, GENERATE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE WATERFRONT OPERATIONS STAFF MEMBERS ARE ALWAYS DIRECTED TO PARK AT YORK HALL OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
SO THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR A VARIETY OF LAND USES, WHICH WILL CONTRIBUTE TO AND COMPLEMENT THE UNIQUE CHARACTER AND VILLAGE ATMOSPHERE AND PROMOTE AN IMPROVED LEVEL OF AMENITIES.
UH, THIS PROPOSAL ORIGINATED FROM CITIZEN INPUT THAT SUGGESTED WATERFRONT OPERATIONS BE HOUSED IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION FROM THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED SECOND STORY OF THE DOCK MASTER'S OFFICE BUILDING.
SO AS TO PROTECT THE RIVER VISTAS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE, UH, CHARACTER OF THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE, CONSISTENT WITH THE BOARD'S OBJECTIVES RELATED TO THE ENHANCEMENT OF TOURISM.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD FUNCTION AS A HUB FOR MANAGING THE LOGISTICS FOR WATERFRONT OPERATIONS AND EVENTS AND MONITORING THE AREA FOR IMPROVED PUBLIC SAFETY.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 24 DASH 65.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION AT ITS MARCH 13TH MEETING AND VOTED FOUR TO TWO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, AND AGAIN, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE INTO THE QUESTIONS AND THEN REMINDER, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE COMMENTS A LITTLE BIT.
SO AN NOW'S OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
SO, MR. NOR NO COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.
MR. ROY? YEAH, I WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING, UH, IN DEPTH AND, AND A LOT OF THEIR QUESTIONS WERE AROUND THE COST OF THIS BUILDING.
AND, UM, AT THE END, THEY'VE, THEY CHOSE TO VOTE ON A LAND USE ONLY DECISION.
UH, SO THEY LEFT THE COST DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD.
WHAT ARE WE SPENDING ON THIS BUILDING? I CAN, UH, DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT RIGHT HERE.
SO, UH, I I POED THE SAME QUESTION FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS COMBINED.
I WAS GIVEN AN ESTIMATE OF 1.5 TO $2 MILLION FOR BOTH BUILDINGS.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S AN, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE 'CAUSE WE ARE, WE'RE APPROACHING THIS AS A DESIGN BUILD.
AND ONE QUESTION ASKED OF, UH, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, DO WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE? AND THAT ALTERNATE WAS A RIVERWALK LANDING, UH, OP OPPORTUNITY.
SO THE RIVERWALK LANDING OPPORTUNITY WITH A NEW RESTAURATEUR IN PLACE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION TO ASK FOR THAT.
HE HAS A, HE HAS A LEASE FOR THE ENTIRE SPACE.
HE HAS NOT OFFERED TO VACATE ANY OF THAT SPACE.
UH, HE'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR TWO WEEKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S IN A POSITION TO DO THAT.
AND FOR A LITTLE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, UM, IT JUST WAS
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RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT RIVERWALK RESTAURANT WILL BE REOPENING UNDER THE RIVERWALK, THE RIVERWALK RESTAURANT WILL BE REOPENING, UH, TO REGULAR DINING ON MAY 14TH.SO PREVIOUSLY, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY'VE BEEN USING IT FOR BANQUETS EVENTS, UM, SPECIAL OCCASIONS WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, MOTHER'S DAY, EASTER, EASTER, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, UM, BUT THEY'LL BE OPEN, YOU KNOW, ON A FULL SCHEDULE AS OF MAY 14TH.
THEY'VE ANNOUNCED, JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED.
AND, AND, AND I'M GONNA GO ONE STEP FURTHER HERE.
I'M GONNA RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD THAT YOU NOT DO THAT WE NOT TAKE THAT SPACE WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE COUNTY OFFICE SPACE WAS INTENDED TO BE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UH, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOULD STAY COMMERCIAL SPACE IF THAT SPACE WAS TO BE VACATED.
I AM VERY CONFIDENT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FULL OCCUPANCY RIGHT NOW, THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO RENT IT AND RECOUP ADDITIONAL MONEY TO PUT THE STAFF IN THERE AT THIS TIME, I THINK WOULD BE A MISTAKE.
WE'RE, OKAY, LET ME, I'M, I'M, LOOK, I'M SUFFERING DOWN HERE.
SO WHAT SPACE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE WALK LAND.
WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED? NOT MY PROPOSAL, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED IS THAT THE RIVER WALK LANDING RESTAURANT VACATE SOME OF THEIR SPACE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE LEASED FOR AND TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY IN TURN USE IT AS OFFICE SPACE TO REPLACE THIS BUILDING.
WHO, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S A BUSINESS.
IT'S OPERATING BUSINESS THAT'S SUCCESSFUL.
AND ALSO, UH, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THE PROPRIETARY, UH, PROPRIETARY OF THAT BUSINESS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, SOME YEARS HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS TO THIS COUNTY ON MANY OCCASIONS IS HAVE THE STAFF, THE FOOD, EVERYTHING ELSE.
I, I MEAN THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY ABUSING THE, UH, THE, THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS.
I THINK THE QUESTION CAME UP WHEN THE BUSINESS WAS SITTING EMPTY AND THERE WAS WELL, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, I REMEMBER THAT BACK AND I ACTUALLY EVEN MADE THAT COMMENT IF IT WAS JUST GONNA SIT EMPTY AND NOT ANYTHING GET DONE ON IT, YEAH, WE COULD USE THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION CAME UP WHEN IT WAS SITTING EMPTY AND SITTING EMPTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YES, IT HAS, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA OPEN PRETTY SOON, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
GUESS WORD HADN'T GOTTEN OUT YET.
MR. DREWRY, UH, DID YOU SAY THAT EACH OF THE BUILDINGS WERE GONNA BE 1.5 TO 2.5 EACH N NO.
COMBINED 1.5 TO 2 MILLION IS, IS WHAT I WAS, WAS INFORMED THAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR BOTH BUILDINGS.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, MR. SHEPHERD.
ABOUT WHAT? ANY, ANY QUE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF? NOPE.
BRING MY HEARING AIDS NEXT TIME,
SO WHETHER YOU WANNA, THEY PROPOSED, WHAT'S PROPOSED TONIGHT IS ASKING THE BOARD IF THEY WANT, IF THEY DESIRE TO ESTABLISH THAT BUILDING.
TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS.
RIGHT? WE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SET DIRECTION HERE AT THIS POINT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO LATER ON, IF THE BOARD DECIDES THAT THIS DIRECTOR WANNA GO INTO LATER ON MONTHS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS HOW LONG FOR NOW WE GOTTA COME BACK AND REEVALUATE WHETHER THE PRICE TAG IS, IS DIGESTIBLE.
SO, MR. MR. R SO YOU, WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE IN THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? SO WHAT, WHATEVER, UH, ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT DECIDES TO DO IT, IT WOULD BE A TWO PART CONTRACT.
SO THE FIRST ONE, I THINK WHAT I'VE HERE IS A VERY SOLID CONSENSUS THAT THE FIRST BUILDING SHOULD BE BUILT.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND PLAN FOR THAT THIS FALL.
THE SECOND BUILDING WOULD COME AFTERWARDS.
SO THAT WOULD ALLOW TIME FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN TO MR. ROY'S POINT, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT WAS TO DEVELOP AND THE BOARD FELT DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT, THEY'D HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TOO.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO GET THE BUILDING APPROVED TONIGHT SO THAT THE DESIGN CAN BE DONE UNDER ONE CONTRACT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS DECISION IS HERE.
WE'RE NOT BREAKING GROUND TOMORROW IF WE VOTE YES ON THIS.
WE'RE SETTING, WE'RE SETTING DIRECTION HERE.
THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE ME DECIDING
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I'M READY FOR A NEW TRUCK, BUT UNTIL I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT, I'M NOT BUYING, BUYING A TRUCK.I JUST DECIDED I WANT TO BUY A TRUCK, SIR.
SO, SO MR. R, YOU HAVE DARREN'S COMMITMENT THAT HE WILL COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT BEFORE HE GETS TO BUILDING NUMBER TWO.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT BUYING A TRUCK TOO, HAVE WAY HE COMES OUTTA YOUR POCKET.
UM, THE RENDERING THAT WE SAW EARLIER, IS THAT THE OFFICIAL, IS THAT JUST AS CONCEPT? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE AGAIN, THAT'S A CONCEPT.
MUCH LIKE THE DOCK MASTER OFFICE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A CONSENSUS ON THE DESIGN.
AND IF THE DESIGN LOOKS REALLY FAMILIAR TO YOU, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE DESIGN OF A CURRENT BUILDING DOWN IN THE RIVER WALK LANDING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, STAFF THOUGHT, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT THAT WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO THE, THE EXISTING DESIGN AND, AND THERE'D BE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF CONTINUITY WITH HAVING THAT BUILDING THE SAME DESIGN AS THE BUILDINGS DOWN IN RIVERWALK LANDING.
BUT TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION, YES.
WE'LL HAVE AN ARCHITECT ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, MR. CHAIR TIGHTEN THE SHOWINGS UP.
WE, IN THE, UH, WHEN WE, IN THE PAST WHEN WE DID LIKE THE BIG BUILDING, WE HAD THE ARCHITECT CREATE A RENDITION THAT THREE DIMENSIONAL.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD COME IN AND YOU COULD LITERALLY SEE IT.
YOU COULD SEE IT IN ITS SETTING.
UM, WHICH WAS PRETTY AMAZING BECAUSE EXACTLY HOW IT TURNED OUT.
I MEAN, DO WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A, IT WAS A WORK OF ART AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY CONVINCING FOR THE, THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SEE THAT.
SO IF WE WANNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CAN DO IT.
WELL CA WELL, NO, BUT I MEAN, YOU ACTUALLY, IT'S LIKE A MODEL.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT SITS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE HILL AND PUT LITTLE CARS IN THERE AND STUFF AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN TOUCH IT IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT I MEAN, I JUST THOUGHT IT'D KIND OF GIVE YOU, IF WE'RE SPENDING A COUPLE MILLION BUCKS, HEY, WHAT THE HECK? RIGHT.
SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION OR IN, IN THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT OFFICE SPACE FOR THREE FULL-TIME WORKERS.
BUT THAT'S GONNA ACCOMMODATE THIS BILL IS GONNA ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN THAT.
AND I'LL BACK UP EVEN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST WENT INTO THIS, IT WAS, IT WAS PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE GONNA BUILD ONE BUILDING FOR ALL THE OPERATIONS THAT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTED.
IT'S NOT WHAT THE BOARD WANTED.
SO WE MOVED TO THIS OTHER BUILDING AND THIS DATES BACK TO 2018.
SO SINCE THEN, THE, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT WAS FORMED WHERE THE OFFICE OF TOURISM DEVELOPMENT ABSORBED THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE STAFF DOUBLE UP IN OFFICES IN THERE.
BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TOURISM DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE HOUSE OPERATES OR MANAGES THE AMBASSADORS.
WATERFRONT AMBASSADORS PARKING SERVICES MANAGES THE FREIGHT SHED MANAGES OVER 70 EVENTS EACH YEAR DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT, MANAGES THE RIVERWALK, LANDING PIERS, AND THEN PRETTY MUCH ALL THE OVERSIGHT OF, OF, OF ALMOST EVERYTHING DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT.
SO AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON, WE MAY HAVE 25 TO 30 WORKERS REQUIRED EMPLOYEES ON SITE AT ONE TIME.
SO A A AS I THINK MANY OF YOU CAN SEE OR HAS HAVE BEEN DOWN TO THE DOCK MASTER OFFICE, THOSE FACILITIES ARE, ARE HIGHLY INADEQUATE TO, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO HOST THAT MANY EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT.
ANOTHER BONUS WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A, UH, A KIND OF A COMMAND CENTER FOR OUR LARGER EVENTS DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT.
UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR A EMERGENCY COMMAND IF NEEDED, AN ONSITE EMERGENCY COMMAND.
ALSO, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, AN EEOC FOR SOME OF OUR LARGER EVENTS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THE BUILDING IS NOT JUST FOR THREE PEOPLE, IT'S GONNA SIR, ACCOMMODATE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
UM, UM, KIND OF RELATED TO THAT, AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK INTO RENDERING, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE NO VIEW BLOCKAGE GOING THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM, SO THAT, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
SO WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS AND PART OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, WAS, HEY, WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT THE RENDERING HAD IT OVER THE HILL.
THAT'S JUST THE ANGLE OF THE RENDERING.
UM, ENGINEERS ASSURED US THAT THEY WOULD BUILD OR DESIGN THE BUILDING IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT INTERFERE OR BREAK THE LINE OF THE TOP LEVEL OF THE, THE MARIO LOT.
SO THE TOP OF THE BUILDING WOULD NOT BREAK THAT.
SO NO, NO VIEWS WOULD BE IMPACTED.
UM, THE ONLY VIEW THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED WOULD BE OF THE SITE OF THE COLEMAN BRIDGE FROM THE KISKA GREEN OR KISKA WATCH AREA.
SO YEAH, NONE, NONE OF THE WATER VIEWS, NONE OF THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED.
THE VIEW SHED WOULD BE REMAIN UNFETTERED.
THOSE, THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, WHERE ARE THEY? WHERE, WHERE ARE THE OFFICES NOW? SO THEY'RE DOUBLED UP IN THE ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEIR PRIMARY ARIES OF OPERATION ARE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT.
SO YOU HAVE OUR EVENT MANAGER, WE HAVE OUR WATERFRONT OPERATIONS COORDINATOR, AND THEN OUR WATERFRONT OPERATIONS AND EVENTS ASSISTANT.
THOSE ARE THE THREE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE IN THAT OFFICE.
AND AGAIN, HARD HARD, HARD TO MANAGE THOSE OPERATIONS BEING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FIVE, 600 YARDS AWAY, HALF A MILE AWAY.
AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS DON'T JUST WORK ON A NORMAL, NORMAL EIGHT TO FIVE SHIFT, EITHER THEY'RE THERE ON EVENINGS DURING THE WEEKDAYS AND THE WEEKENDS.
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SO HAVING THEIR AREA OF OPERATION WHERE THEIR AREA OF, OF FOCUS IS, IS, IS ABSOLUTELY BENEFICIAL.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE AND REFERENCE TO THE COMMENTS EARLIER TONIGHT, UH, ON THE IMPORTANCE OF ARCHEOLOGY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BUILT INTO THE PLANS FOR WHEN WE BUILD THIS BUILDING THAT WE HAVE A DETAILED PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE GROUNDS THAT, UH, THAT IT WILL RISE.
IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A PHASE ONE.
I THINK, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS GROUND NEAR THE, NEAR THE WATERFRONT PROBABLY, UH, DEMANDS A PHASE TWO.
I I, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE ON THAT NOTE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ENGAGING WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, MS. KARLAK WAS HERE TONIGHT.
SHE, SHE HAS AN ARCHEOLOGIST THAT HAD DONE THE PREVIOUS GPR SURVEY OF THAT PROPERTY AND WOULD BE ACTIVE AND WILLING TO BE ACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS.
SO, WELL, SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ENGAGING THOSE FOLKS.
HONESTLY, WE'RE, WE'RE WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HONORING ANY KIND OF ARTIFACTS THAT ARE IN THE GROUND THERE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 HORSESHOE DRIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG.
I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING, BUT I KIND OF GASPED WHEN I HEARD THAT, UH, THIS 1800 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WAS GOING TO, UH, HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES MAYBE SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY, UM, SPACE.
I HAVE BEEN A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER FOR YORK COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR 21 YEARS.
WE HAVE STUDENTS IN TRAILERS AND YET WE ARE LOOKING AT A ONE AND A HALF TO $2 MILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR THREE OFFICE PEOPLE.
AND I THINK THE WHOLE ISSUE ON THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL THIS BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIG DEEP INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR SCHOOL CAPACITY ISSUES.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING.
I'M GONNA ASK QUE I HAVE A QUESTION OR IF YOU WANNA MAKE THE GO AHEAD.
DO LET, LET'S DO THE E I'M SORRY.
ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
NOW WE'LL START DOWN HERE FOR, OKAY, LET'S TALK THIS, THIS, I MEAN, WELL THIS IS COMING ACROSS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF IDIOTS UP HERE.
SO THREE PEOPLE IN A BUILDING THAT'S GONNA COST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? NO, I'M NOT HEARING GOOD TONIGHT, SO I JUST WANNA KNOW.
NO, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE HEARING NO, WAIT.
LET'S LET THE MAN TALK DOWN HERE.
DARREN, WOULD YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? BECAUSE LAST TIME I'LL START TALKING WHILE DARREN GETTING UP, THIS ROOM'S GONNA BE USED FOR A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN THREE.
I SAID THERE ARE THREE FULL-TIME PEOPLE UP THERE.
AND A HOST OF PART-TIME PEOPLE WOULD BE THERE.
SO THE HYBRID SEASON, IT COULD BE 25 TO 30 INDIVIDUALS.
AND YOU'VE GOTTA REMEMBER WHAT THE OPERATIONS WILL RUN OUTTA THERE.
WELL, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WORD GETS OUT THERE.
I MEAN, YOU COME UP THERE THREE PART-TIME OR THREE FULL-TIME PEOPLE IN A BUILDING THAT BIG.
NO, THE WHOLE THING IS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, COMMENTS WERE MADE ON THE ONE THAT WE TURNED DOWN, REMEMBER ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE COMING IN FOR, THERE WAS EMERGENCY CENTER DOWN THERE, THERE WAS SECURITY CENTER DOWN THERE, THERE WERE ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING TO FOR THE, FOR ALL THESE SUMMER EVENTS THAT WERE, UH, STATIONED OUT THERE.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
AND NOW THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT COMES OUT.
THAT'S JUST A HELL OF A WAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE.
SO, SO ONCE AGAIN, IT, IT SERVES, IT SUPPORTS MULTIPLE OPERATIONS.
I HEARD THE LADY SAY THAT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
SO IT'S THE WATER WATERFRONT AMBASSADORS, THE PARKING SERVICES, THE DOCK MASTER, THE FREIGHT SHED SUPPORT STAFF, AND THE EVENTS, WHICH IS OVER 70 EVENTS.
SO THAT'S 25 TO 30 WORK IS REQUIRED EMPLOYEES DURING THE HEIGHT OF OUR SEASON, THAT WILL BE UTILIZ IN THIS FACILITY.
I MEAN, I WENT DOWN THERE, WALKED THE, WE TALKED AND EVERYTHING MET WITH THE DOCK MASTER AND ALL THE STAFF AND IT WAS JUST A, I MEAN, IN FACT SOMEBODY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN YOU, I MIGHT HAVE HEARD BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT IT BEING A LITTLE CRAMMED IN LITTLE ROOM DOWN THERE.
AND, AND, UH, SO THIS, THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN OPERATING YORKTOWN BEACH AREA AND MR. SHEPHERD, THAT, THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN THERE.
DURING, DURING HOLIDAYS AND BIG EVENTS, YOU HAVE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY FOLKS DOWN THERE.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS DOWN THERE.
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MR. HALL, I THINK EVEN PUTS A DISPATCHER DOWN THERE, UH, OVER THE HOLIDAYS.SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE ADDITIONAL TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD.
I JUST, HOW YOU SELL THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
LET'S MAKE SURE THE WORD'S OUT THERE AND IT'S CORRECTLY BEING INTERPRETED.
I'M SORRY FOR GETTING RILED UP SO WELL, THAT'S WHY WE COME HERE TONIGHT, MR. DREW.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT ANYHOW, I'M, I'M WILLING TO PUSH FORWARD AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY DOWN THE ROAD TO, TO REEVALUATE AND FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
MS. MS. NOR, I'M FINE WITH IT.
MR. ROY? WELL, I'LL SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL ISSUE THAT THAT IS A PRESSING ISSUE.
WE, WE HAVE FAR TOO MANY STUDENTS IN PORTABLES.
WE DON'T HAVE A, THAT UP TO, WE DON'T HAVE A CAPITAL PLAN FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT.
THAT'S A POINT I'VE MADE NOW THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.
UH, I DON'T SEE MR. SHANDOR IN HERE.
I DON'T SEE HIM, UH, SHOWING UP FOR ANY OF OUR MEETINGS.
UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP ME FROM GOING FORWARD WITH THIS BUILDING, SO THANK YOU.
UM, SO THERE'S, I I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY A COMPELLING ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE PROPER FACILITY FOR STAFF, EITHER PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY TO OPERATE OUT OF, CONSIDERING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON DOWN AT THE BEACH FRONT.
THE, UM, THE, UM, THE FREIGHT SHED 4TH OF JULY, NOT JUST FOR OUR COUNTY STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES.
THEY NEED A PLACE TO, TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW MR. HALL HAD A DISPATCHER DOWN THERE.
SO THAT, THAT EVEN MAKES EVEN MORE.
SO THERE'S A COMPELLING ARGUMENT THAT A FACILITY LIKE THIS IS NEEDED IS USEFUL DOWN THERE.
AND I THINK CURRENTLY TONIGHT, SET DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
WE CAN DECIDE, AS MR. BELLAMY SAID, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA TAKE ANOTHER BITE OF THAT APPLE OR NOT WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE MONEY COMES DOWN TO.
BUT, UM, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING I THINK MOVING FORWARD.
AND JUST REAL QUICK, I WILL SAY REGARDING THE, UM, SCHOOL OCCUPANCY, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AGENDA ITEM ONE, TWO, OR THREE IN THE, IN THE JOINT, UH, BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED IN, IN OCTOBER.
'CAUSE THAT'S A PRESSING MATTER I THINK, ACROSS ALL COUNTIES.
SO IT WILL DEFINITELY BE LOOKED AT, DEFINITELY BE DISCUSSED.
UM, AND THAT'S COMING UP LATER, LATER THIS YEAR.
UM, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COST OF THESE BUILDINGS, UM, NOW WE'RE NOT TALKING JUST THE, THE MORE, UH, THE BRICK AND MORTAR.
THERE'LL BE BUILDINGS IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISPATCH DOWN THERE, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE COPS DOWN THERE, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THERE, AREN'T WE, AREN'T WE BUILDING THIS BUILDING KIND OF A, IT'S A CUSTOM DESIGN OPERATION SO THEY CAN HANDLE, UH, PROPERLY, THEY HAVE ALL THE WIRING AND ANTENNAS AND MM-HMM.
THE, THE, THE, THE DESIGN OF THESE BUILDINGS WERE TO, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT CAMERA SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE, THE WATERFRONT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A FIBER LINE CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED STAFF BUILDING THAT COULD BE TAPPED INTO.
SO YES, THE DESIGN ABSOLUTELY INCLUDES FOR ALL THESE PUBLIC SAFETY FACTORS AND, AND ALSO SERVING AS A HUB FOR THE CAMERA SYSTEMS DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT AS WELL.
IS THAT ALL COST INCLUDED IN THIS BUILDING? YES, SIR.
SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT BUYING A CADILLAC, WE'RE, WE'RE BUYING SOMETHING, A SPECIALIZED TANK OR SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
SO YOUR, YOUR ESTIMATE IS THAT THE, AT THE DOOR PRICE, IF YOU WILL NOT MY ESTIMATE,
GOOD JOB CLARIFYING, BUT, OKAY.
GOOD THING TO CLARIFY THAT
IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE, YOU'RE JUST QUOTING THE, THE WALLS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 65 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
MR. DREWRY? YES, MR. SHEPHERD.
[6 Six-Year Secondary System Improvement Program – FY2025 through FY2030. Consider adoption of proposed resolution R24-67 to approve a Project Priority Listing for Secondary Road construction for the six-year period FY2025 through FY2030 and to approve a Construction Budget for FY2025. ]
RIGHT PAGE.NUMBER SIX, PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 67, 6 YEAR SECONDARY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT ROW IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
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I WENT BACKWARDS.UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, ONCE AGAIN.
SO EACH YEAR THE BOARD NEEDS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PROPOSED ALLOCATION OF SECONDARY ROAD FRONTS PROJECTED TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTY BY VDOT OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
SO FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH 2030.
AND THEN ALSO APPROVE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR 25.
OUR PROJECTED SECONDARY ALLOCATION FROM VDOT IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 1.1 MILLION OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS AND THAT AVERAGES OUT YEARLY TO ABOUT $176,000.
UH, THIS DOES REPRESENT A DECREASE FROM WHAT WAS PROPOSED LAST YEAR AS WELL.
I HAD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, PENMAN AND GOVERNMENT ROAD, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT SECONDARY ROAD PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED.
UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THIS
TO REMIND YOU, UH, IT'S THE RECONSTRUCTION WIDENING OF PENMAN ROAD BETWEEN ALEXANDER LEE AND FILLMORE DRIVE REALIGNMENT OF GOVERNMENT ROAD FROM A T UH, TO A T IN PLACE OF THE CURRENT Y.
ALSO, THERE'S GONNA BE FOUR FOOT BIKE SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE OF PENMAN WITH CURB GUTTER.
GOOD NEWS, THIS HAS GONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS OF FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UM, PROJECTED TO HOPEFULLY FINISH UP IN 25.
SO SINCE THE PENMAN GOVERNMENT PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED NOW THE COUNTY CAN EXPLORE ADDITIONS TO OTHER PROJECTS TO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM GIVEN THE, SO ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OUTLAY FOR 2030 AND THEN BEYOND, UM, LOOKING AT SMALL PROJECTS THAT COULD MAYBE BE FUNDED ONE TO THREE YEARS.
AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT, IT'S NOT MUCH.
UM, THIS IS DEDICATED FUNDING, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT.
SO STAFF HAS TO KIND OF DO WORK OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS ON SECONDARY ROADS COULD BE FUNDED WITH THIS AMOUNT.
UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE TURNAROUND TIME THIS YEAR FROM WHEN THE, THE PENMAN, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND OUT THAT WENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO WHEN VDOT PROPOSED OUR OUTLAY FOR 2030.
AND WHEN THEY HAD TO KIND OF START PROGRAMMING THOSE FUNDS AT THE END OF MARCH, UM, WEREN'T ABLE TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT IN THAT TIME.
SO OUR GOAL NEXT YEAR IS TO COME BACK FOR NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR AND HAVE A SERIES OF PROJECTS THAT WE COULD PUT IN THE SECONDARY PLAN.
SO THIS IS A JOINT COUNTY VDOT HEARING.
UM, WE HAVE GLEN BROOKS HERE FROM THE WILLIAMSBURG RESIDENCY AND EITHER OF US WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE AT ANY TIME.
I'M JUST HAPPY THAT I'M STILL HERE TO SEE PENMAN ROAD.
I'M GOOD MR. SHEPHERD ON OUR, UM, OUR SECONDARY ROAD PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL.
SO WE GET ON SECONDARY ROAD PROGRAM.
WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING OFF THE, BASICALLY OFF THE, THE ROAD STUFF AND MORE INTO THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT, UM, WAS 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A GAP ON MERRIMACK, LIKE WITH THE BIKE LANE, BUT THAT'S A PRIMARY ROAD.
SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THROUGH IS LIKE, AGAIN, THINGS ON PRIMARY ROADS DON'T QUALIFY FOR THIS FUNDING.
IT HAS TO BE ON A SECONDARY ROAD.
BUT WE COULD DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AGAIN, SMALL PROJECTS TO GIVE FUNDING AMOUNT.
WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO HERE MM-HMM.
AND, AND, UH, AND THEN WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, DECIDE, WELL THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.
ARE WE DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH THE SECONDARY ROAD PROGRAM TO A DEGREE? UM, JUST TO SPEAK TO SIDEWALKS.
WE, WE HAVE, UM, SO WE DO HAVE A SECONDARY, UM, IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT'S IN THE COMP PLAN THAT LAYS OUT A COUPLE PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE LAKESIDE DRIVE WAS THE PREVIOUS ONE WHERE THIS WAS PULLED FROM.
SO THERE'S, YEAH, THE COMP PLAN'S NOT WHAT I'M THINKING OF HERE.
I'M THINKING OF THAT IN PUBLIC WORKS OR SOMETHING.
OH, WE DO HAVE, UM, I CAN SPEAK TO SIDEWALKS.
WE DO HAVE A RUNNING LIST THAT, UM, WE RANK AND BETH S IF YOU, UM, GOING WITH ENGINEERING TO SPEAK ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT, WELL, NO, I MEAN, SO WHERE'S THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THIS DISCUSSION OF WHAT SIDEWALK GETS BUILT WHEN, I MEAN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE THE TRAIL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT? THE BOAT, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAIL.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN WE ALL HAVE LITTLE AREAS WHERE
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THERE'S SOME WE WANT TO GET THE KIDS OFF THE ROAD, HAVE THEM, OR JUST THE KIDS, BUT THE ADULTS TOO.UH, GET 'EM OFF THE ROADS BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR VIRGINIA ROADS DON'T HAVE, UH, SHOULDERS.
WE, I MEAN, HAVE WE EVER NOT EVEN THOUGHT OF THIS? NO, ACTUALLY NO.
MR. SHEPHERD? I WOULD SAY A ADMITTEDLY WE HAVE NOT HAD A, UM, UPDATE ON SIDEWALKS IN A WHILE, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW PERSONALLY I'VE PROBABLY DONE THREE OF THOSE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
BETH, YOU'VE DONE A COUPLE AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE BROUGHT THE PROJECTS TO THE BOARD AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.
SO YOU HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENT ON THOSE DURING THOSE PRESENTATIONS.
BUT WE PUT IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE PUT IT IN CONTEXT WITH ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE LIKE THAT.
MY TIME MUST BE UP
PROJECTS SUCH AS STORM WATER, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THAT WE HAD IN THERE.
IT WAS THE MEAT, SEWERS, SEWERS, STUFF LIKE THAT, SEWER INSTALLATION.
AND, AND EACH AND ALL OF US KNEW WERE THESE PROJECTS WHICH ARE SIGNIFICANT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, WHERE, WHERE THEY FIT AND HOW LONG IT WAS GONNA TAKE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.
I MEAN, BIG BELE ROAD FOR EXAMPLE.
I JUST THINK OF THE SEWER PROJECT THERE.
BEEN WAITING ON THAT, A PROJECT FOR OVER 20, 20 SOME YEARS.
SO WHERE ARE WE WITH SIDEWALKS SINCE WE'RE DEALING WITH SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY? WELL, I KNOW WE, WE JUST PUT ONE IN BETWEEN, UH, DOWN ON HAMPTON HIGHWAY, WHICH BY THE WAY, THAT'S, UH, THAT HIGHWAY IS WHAT, UH, HAMPTON HIGHWAY 1 34.
SO HOW DO WE PUT A SIDEWALK ON A PRIMARY ROAD IF WE CAN'T MONEY? WELL THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNDING.
YEAH, DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS. UM, I WILL SAY FOR, SO THEN THAT WASN'T EVEN PART OF THIS, THIS PROJECT.
NO, NO PROJECT THAT WAS DIFFERENT FUNDING.
SO WE, WE WOULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR WITH A PROPOSAL OF, AGAIN, HERE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED WITH THIS AMOUNT THAT VDOT IS ALLOCATING.
AND WE WOULD GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US.
AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS, IT'S SO LITTLE RIGHT NOW, SO LITTLE NOW IT USED TO BE A HUGE AMOUNT.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE CHALLENGE FOR STAFF IS, IS THE FUNDING AMOUNT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS CAITLYN, YOU, YOU HAVE A NEW TASK.
THEY HAD THE THREE BULLET POINTS WITH THE NUMBERS ON IT.
SO VDOT IS GIVEN, GIVEN US $1.1 MILLION OVER SIX YEARS TO DO SOMETHING WITH.
WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT THOSE SOME THINGS ARE, CORRECT? YES SIR.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED OUT, I MEAN, FOR 29.
SO IT WAS FOR 20 FOR FISCALLY OR 2030 IS WHERE WE HAD THE, THE EXTRA BECAUSE NOW PENMAN AND GOVERNMENT'S FULLY FUNDED.
SO GOING INTO NEXT YEAR WE'D HAVE I GUESS 30 AND 31.
SO THE NINE UNDER K THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS NOT SUBTRACTIVE ON THE 1.1 OR IS IT NO, I BELIEVE THAT'S PROGRAMMED OUT ALREADY.
SO THE ASK IS FOR US TONIGHT IS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO APPROVE 176,000 THAT WOULD BE SET ASIDE OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS FOR 1.1.
DO WE WANT TO DO THAT? AND WE SAY YES, YOU WERE TO COME BACK TO US LATER ON AND GO, HERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN DO WITH THE $176,000 EACH EACH YEAR OR THE 1.1 OR WHATEVER THIS WOULD BE TO PUT IT IN THE RESERVE AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK NEXT FISCAL AGAIN FOR 20 WHEN IT'S UH, 26 THROUGH 31.
AND AND AGAIN WE'D HAVE THE 30 AND AND THE 31 FUNDS AND THE RESERVE TO SAFETY.
THEY ASKED I US NOT TO APPROVE PROJECTS AND IMPROVE THE ALLOCATIONS.
LET'S GET SOME DEFINITIONS SQUARED AWAY.
SO GEORGE WAS MEMORIAL HIGHWAY IS THE EXAMPLE OF A PRIMARY ROAD.
LAKESIDE DRIVES EXAMPLE OF A SECONDARY ROAD.
WHAT ABOUT SHO WALKER DRIVE OFF OF LAKESIDE DRIVE? IS THAT ALSO SECONDARY ROAD OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT DEFINITION? I BELIEVE SO.
UM, SECONDARY, TYPICAL TO SECONDARY.
WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF THE ROAD? IT'S USUALLY LIKE IF IT'S 600 PLUS FOR THE ROUTE NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW, A 100, A 100 LIKE 17 OR OR 1 71 OR 1 34 PRIME.
THEY'RE PRIMARY ROAD TO LIKE 600.
IS IS SECONDARY ROAD, BETHEL ROAD.
ANYTHING YOU GOT LIKE THAT IN THE NUMBERS, BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN INTO, YEP.
BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN INTO LIKE WHISPER AND PRINE OR PHIL IN LEWIS DRIVE IN SAY THE BRANDYWINE SUBDIVISION, IS THAT ALSO SECONDARY ROAD? ALRIGHT.
SO PRETTY MUCH IF THEY'RE PUBLIC, YES.
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE.
THIS IS ALL FOR SECONDARY ROADS, SO EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE, THE BIG ROADS.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME INPUT TOO, PROBABLY AS FAR AS HOW WE MAY WANNA GET THOSE
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ALLOCATED LATER ON.WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT TONIGHT.
BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE IF SOME OF THAT WORK CAN GO TO SOME OF THAT FUNDING GOES TO SHOULDER WORK.
'CAUSE WE GOT SHOULDERS FALLING APART ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
CASE YOU SEE THE VOTE ON THIS.
SO I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I ASK FOR A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH.
I DON'T THINK I CAN APPROVE THIS MOTION BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS STATED IN HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN.
SO WHAT THINGS WE DON'T HAVE, UH, CONTAINED IN THE SIX YEAR PLAN REVIEWED WITH THE SUPERVISORS? I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PROVIDE A RECOMMENDED PROGRAM, WHICH THE BOARD'S CAREFULLY CONSIDERED.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THE PROJECT ON THIS LIST HAVE BEEN DETERMINED BY YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE YORK COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I DON'T THINK I CAN TAKE THIS RESOLUTION AS IT'S WRITTEN AND APPROVE IT.
THE BUDGET FORM SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PACKET AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE MEMO.
UM, THERE WAS ONE IN THERE I THINK.
YEAH, I WAS SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S THE SAME EVERY YEAR'S.
GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH HERE IS IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY? NO, THEY GO GIVE IT TO JAMES CITY COUNTY.
YOU GOTTA BE REAL CAREFUL WITH THIS.
AND, AND THE, THE, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT, THAT'S REALLY IN REFERENCE TO THE PENMAN ROAD PROJECT.
UM, AGAIN, SINCE THAT'S LISTED, THERE'S THAT COMP PLAN LIST OF PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHERE THAT'S CONTAINED.
SO IS THAT DOCUMENTATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? NOT IN THE, IN THE PACKAGE.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT YOU READ OFF WAS IN THERE.
DOWN ON ALL I SAW, ALL I SAW WAS THE PENMAN ROAD.
YEAH, THAT WAS THE, UH, THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.
AND WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO DO IS PROTECT US THAT MONEY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS OF A LIST I HAVEN'T SEEN MR. BECAUSE THEY'VE COME UP WITH THIS AS THIS APPROVED.
MR. MR R IF, IF WE COULD PLEASE, UH, MS. SHOT, WOULD YOU, UH, INTERVENE HERE FOR ME PLEASE? UM, AT THE ATTACHMENT IN THE BOARD PACK, UH, SPEAKING TO THE MIC PLEASE.
THE ATTACHMENT TO THE BOARD PACK SECONDARY SYSTEM IS I BELIEVE THE FORM THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
AND, UM, I DO THAT SHOW BEHIND THE MEMO AND THIS PART OF THE ATTACHMENT RIGHT HERE.
I'M, I'M SEEING IS THAT ONE THAT'S, THERE'S NOTHING ON THERE THAT'S, I SEE THAT, BUT I DON'T, THAT'S BLANK.
THIS SHOWS THE ALLOCATION OVER THE YEARS.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL YEARS? YEAH, I GOT THAT RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT HERE ON THE, THAT'S THAT'S IN THE PRO THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE.
THAT'S BUT BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOCATE IT TO ANYTHING.
THAT'S, WE'RE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE I WAS SAYING THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO COME TO US, UH, LATER AND WE APPROVE WHAT WE WANT THE MONEY TO BE SPENT ON.
SO THE RESOLUTION SHOULD SAY WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY UNTIL FURTHER LIST IS DEVELOPED.
WELL, WE HAVEN'T, WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING IT.
WE'RE JUST, ARE WE ALLOCATING IT TO NOW? WELL, WE'RE APPROVING IT.
WE WE'RE APPROV IT, WE'RE ACCEPTING IT.
I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST ACCEPTING IT.
WELL, WE, I'M GONNA LET GLEN, UH,
HI, I'M, I'M GLEN BROOKS FROM VDOT.
SO YOU, YOU ARE ALLOCATING IT.
OH, WE ARE, YOU ARE ALLOCATING IT TO A GENERAL FUND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT AND THAT IS THE OUTLYING YEARS.
SO YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO CORRECT THAT.
SO NEXT YEAR YOU WOULD COME BACK AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO ALLOCATE IT, YOU COULD REALLOCATE 2030 AND THEN ALSO ALLOCATE 31.
BUT THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE JUST ALLOCATING IT TO A GENERAL FUND.
SO SHOULDN'T THE RESOLUTION READ THAT? IT CAN, I GUESS YOU COULD AMEND IT VERBALLY WHERE ALL ALLOCATIONS GO, RIGHT? YEAH.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT AMENDMENT? I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT, UH, R 24 67 R BE REWRITTEN TO SAY THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING, UH, THE MONEY APPROVED FROM, I I SAY THAT RIGHT.
VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO A GENERAL FUND FOR A LIST OF DEVELOPMENTS TO BE DETERMINED LATER.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN I WILL ASK FOR ANOTHER MOTION FOR, SO I MOVE R 27, SORRY.
SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON, WELL, LET ME GET MY PROCEDURES RIGHT MR. HILL, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OR JUST THE AMENDED? I, I, MR. SHEPHERD, YOU CAN HEAR ME RIGHT? I CAN HEAR YOU.
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AMENDMENT, PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND LANGUAGE, AND HAVE MS. INGRAM READ BACK THE LANGUAGE THAT SHE HAS AND THEN VOTE ON AND THEN A MOTION ON THE, THE AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD NOW BE AN R.WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. NOLL.
DO WE TAKE THAT ONE BACK? UM, YES.
SHE WOULD'VE TO TAKE THE, THE MOTION.
THE MOTION TO AMEND IS A PRIMARY MOTION.
SO IT TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER THE, OVER THE PENDING MOTION.
BUT SHE HAD A MOTION ON R 24 DASH 67.
SO WHAT DOES SHE DO WITH HER MOTION? DOES SHE RETRACT IT? YEAH, YOU CAN JUST CONSIDER IT WITHDRAWN.
BECAUSE THE R TAKES, YOU GOTTA HAVE AN AMENDMENT.
I NEED TO REPEAT IT, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA BE THAT MOTION UP TO AMENDING THE MOTION HOLD.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA FIX THIS UP HERE.
ALLOCATION, UH, TO, TO MOVE MONEY FROM VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, RECOMMENDED PROGRAM TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR A LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS TO BE DEVELOPED LATER.
IF I MIGHT INTERJECT, NOT ALL OF THAT MONEY GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU HAVE ALLOCATED A LOT OF IT TO THE PENMAN ROAD PROJECT AS SHE OUTLINED IN HER NUMBERS.
SO IT'S PROBABLY BEST IF WE JUST LEAVE IT, APPROVE THE SIX YEAR PLAN.
SO WE GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID? I UNDERSTOOD.
I UNDERSTOOD FROM CAITLIN THAT THE MONEY HAD ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED AND PAID FOR THE GOVERNMENT ROAD.
WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS AT FIRST, BUT EVIDENTLY NOT.
SO THE, ALL THE MONEY FOR THE PENMAN ROAD IS NOT, IS NOT COMPLETE YET.
I DIDN'T THINK YOU GUYS EVEN STARTED A PROJECT IN VITA UNLESS YOU HAD, YOU HAD ALL THE MONEY LINED UP.
IT'S NOT THE MONEY LINED UP ROAD.
SO THIS MONEY IS NOT FOR GOVERNMENT ROAD PENMAN, IT'S FOR LIST TO BE DEVELOPED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOME OF THIS MONEY IS FOR THE PENMAN ROAD? YES.
SOME OF THOSE YEARS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO PENMAN ROAD IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE FUTURE YEARS.
SORRY, YOU SAY SOME OF THAT MONEY'S BEEN ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR PENMAN ROAD.
I THOUGHT PENMAN ROAD WAS ALREADY COVERED IN THE MONEY FROM THE PRIOR YEARS.
ALL THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN ACCUMULATING MONEY, WE'VE BEEN ACCUMULATING FROM SECONDARY ROAD PROGRAM WAS TO PAY FOR THE PENMAN ROAD PROJECT, WHICH I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WAS ALREADY FULLY FUNDED.
YES, IT IS FULLY FUNDED, BUT SOME OF THE FUNDS ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTED YEARS.
BUT THEN SOME OF THESE ARE SOME OF THE FUNDS.
WELL, BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING, YOU GUYS NORMALLY SAY YOU WON'T FUND, YOU WON'T SEE START A PROGRAM OR FUNDED A ROAD ROAD PROJECT UNLESS YOU HAVE ALL THE FUNDS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING UNTIL 2030.
IS THAT THAT'S ONE WE'RE COMING UP TO.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE HAVE, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
THAT'S WHERE WE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE HAVE THAT, THAT OUTLAY TO, TO ALLOCATE.
SO LAST YEAR WHEN THIS CAME UP AGAIN, IN, IN THE, THE HEARING LAST YEAR WAS FOR 24 THROUGH 29 AND ALL OF THAT WENT TO PENMAN ROAD.
HOW MUCH, SO HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GOING TO PENMAN ROAD? EVERYTHING UP EXCEPT FOR 2030? THAT'S GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S ONLY LEAVING WHAT, $176,000 19? YES.
WHICH IS, THAT'S, THAT'S I MENTIONED WE'RE DO IT FOR 2030.
LET'S JUST APPROVE IT AS IT IS.
SO WE'RE PROVING IT ON THE BASIS OF THE LIST IS PENMAN ROAD, GOVERNMENT ROAD.
THAT'S THE LONGEST DISCUSSION I'VE EVER HAD ON IS PENMAN ROAD.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA PRETEND THE NEXT, LAST 10 MINUTES DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO MS. KNOWLES'S ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO YOU NEED TO TAKE THE ROLL CALL.
WELL, YES, I THINK WE'RE DONE.
ON ORIGINAL MOTION FROM MRS. NOLAN.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 67 TO APPROVE A PROJECT PRIORITY LISTING FOR SECONDARY ROAD CONSTRUCTION FROM FY 2025 THROUGH FY 2030 IN A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR FY 2025.
WHY NOT THAT MOTION CARRIED? OKAY.
RULES OF ORDER KEEPING US STRAIGHT.
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WE'RE ALREADY DISCUSSED NUMBER SEVEN.SO WE TURN THE PAGE ON THAT AND NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
[8 Proposed County Code Amendments - Solid Waste, Garbage and Weeds. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-6 to amend Chapter 19 “Solid Waste, Garbage and Weeds,” of the York County Code, to change the fees for Solid Waste and Recycling services, and to clarify definitions and language including, but not limited to “Return Check Fees and NonCustomer.” ]
NUMBER EIGHT, PROPOSED COUNTY CODE AMENDMENTS FOR SOLID WASTE, GARBAGE AND WEEDS.I DUNNO WHERE I DID HIM ON THIS.
UM, SO NOTHING TO DISCUSS ON THAT.
ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE SOLID WASTE FEES? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND THE OFFICIAL VOTE ON THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TARGETED SCHEDULED FOR THE MAY 7TH WORK SESSION.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT, OR FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY AS CHAIRMAN.
SO THESE WERE THE FEES THAT WERE LAID OUT.
HAVE WE COME TO A RESOLUTION OF WHETHER WE'RE GONNA DO RECYCLING OR NOT? NO, WE HAVE NOT.
I MEAN, WE, I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD EITHER.
WE HAVEN'T MADE, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
YOU'RE SAYING STATUS QUO? WE'RE STATUS QUO RIGHT NOW.
WE SAID WE WOULD WAIT AND SEE WHAT, UH, ARE THESE, THE NEW, THESE NEW RATES, RIGHT? THESE ARE THE NEW RATES.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE NEW RATES.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR LAST MEETING MM-HMM.
AND I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT THOSE RATES WHERE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY AGREED THAT WE WOULD NOT CHANGE THE RATES FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT DURING THAT YEAR PERIOD, WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT IT IS WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA DO WITH RECYCLING.
I KNEW SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I, I DO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO KIND OF ADDRESS MS. MS. SEO'S, UH, QUESTION.
I DON'T, I THINK SHE'S ALREADY LEFT, SHE'S GONE.
BUT I WANT TO TOUCH ON IT REAL QUICK WHERE SHE WAS ASKING CAN WE TAKE THOSE FEES AND CALL 'EM A TAX? AND I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
SINCE THESE ARE VOLUNTARY SERVICES THAT PEOPLE CAN, UM, APPLY FOR AND, AND GET, WE COULD INCLUDE IT AS PART OF THE NORMAL SERVICES THE COUNTY PROVIDE AND MAKE IT PART OF OUR TAXABLE BASE.
BUT INSTEAD WE SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE AN OPTION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
AND IF YOU'D HAVE, AND IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE, GIVE US A FEE FOR THE PARTICIPATION.
I WOULD PREFER NOT TO WEIGH IN ON FEDERAL IRS TAX QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE WHAT SHE WAS ASKING WAS CAN THEY CONSIDER IT A TAX FOR PURPOSES OF THE DEDUCTION THAT YOU GET FOR YOUR FEDERAL, THE, THE SALT DEDUCTION? I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE CALL IT.
THE IRS IS GONNA MAKE THEIR OWN DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT DOES AND DOESN'T QUALIFY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AS MUCH AS I THINK I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT.
SHE WAS ASKING IF IF SHE COULD USE THAT DEDUCTION AND SHE WAS ASKING IF SHE COULD DO THAT IF WE CHANGES THE TWO ATTACKS, BUT, WELL, AND I WOULD, I WOULD NOTE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA TO IMPOSE SUCH A TAX.
SO WE, WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SAY WE'RE GONNA NOW IMPOSE THIS ADDITIONAL TAX BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WELL, IF WE WOULDN'T DO THAT, THEN WE JUST INCORPORATE INTO OUR, UH, OTHER LOCAL TO OUR, UH, BUDGET AND THEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE REAL ESTATE TAX THAT YOU SEE.
BUT WE WENT THROUGH THIS, WE WENT THROUGH THIS YES.
I REMEMBER THE SAME, SAME ISSUES.
THEY'RE COMING BACK NOW THAT WE ENDED UP, THAT'S WHY WE ENDED UP WITH FEES AS OPPOSED TO TAX.
I I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO DOUBLE CHECK TO BE SURE.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY THERE IS TO PEAK.
THAT'S THE ONE I WAS GONNA JUST PEAK ONE.
THAT'S THE, THE ONE I WAS THINKING OF.
I BELIEVE CHESAPEAKE ABSORBS THE COST OF WASTE MANAGEMENT IN THEIR REAL ESTATE RATE.
SO THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH WHAT MS. PAU WAS MENTIONING.
SO IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT WITH SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO THE OTHERS, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
BUT IF WE WANT, IF THE BOARD WANTED TO DO RAISE TAX, WE, WE TAKE A D DIFFERENT OPTION OF LETTING PEOPLE DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
AND IF THEY PARTICIPATE, THEN THEY PAY A FEE.
THEY DON'T WANNA PARTICIPATE, THEY DON'T PAY A FEE.
SO WE, WE GIVE PEOPLE FREEDOM OF CHOICE THERE.
[9 Parking Restrictions - Production Drive. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-4 to amend Subsection A of Section 15-48 of the York County Code, Parking Prohibited or Restricted in Specified Places, to add Production Drive (Route 799) to the list of places within the State Secondary System of Highways in York County where parking is prohibited. ]
BUSINESS.UM, NUMBER NINE, PARKING RESTRICTION ON PRODUCTION DRIVE.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FOUR PARK RESTRICTIONS, UH, ON PRODUCTION DRIVE.
THIS IS A, SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TABLED AND MOVED FORWARD, UH, UNTIL TONIGHT.
UM, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'VE HAD A REPORT THAT WAS DONE.
A AND BETH, ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT? SO WHAT DID WE DO WITH 24 6? OH, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH 24 6 IS, RIGHT? YES.
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ON HERE.DID YOU SEE THIS? YEAH, I DON'T SEE IT.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME BACK AND, UH, SPEAK TO YOU, LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
SO IN THE MONTH THAT, UM, HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE I LAST CAME BEFORE YOU, WE GOT A GROUP OF, UM, ABOUT 20 PEOPLE TOGETHER, COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
WE BROKE UP INTO TWO GROUPS AND WE WENT TO THE TWO ENDS OF PRODUCTION DRIVE.
AND THEN WE ALL WORKED OUR WAY TO THE MIDDLE.
WE KNOCKED ON EVERY SINGLE DOOR AND WE TRIED TO TALK WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON ALONG THE, THE ROUTE.
AND WE, UM, TOOK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GAVE US AT THE LAST MEETING AND WE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE THERE.
NUMBER ONE WAS PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THE SPEEDING OF VEHICLES WAS ALSO FAIRLY HIGH.
AND I DID HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE COMMENT TO US THAT THEY DID NOT LIKE THE TIMING OF THE LIGHT THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO LEAVE PRODUCTION DRIVE.
ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS WAS, WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS FOR A SOLUTION? AND AGAIN, PROHIBITING PARKING WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE GOT BACK.
THEY ALSO ASKED IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO HAVE TRAFFIC CALMING, UM, OPTIONS FOR THIS ROAD.
AND OF COURSE THERE WAS WIDENING AND STOPLIGHT ADJUSTMENT.
SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT SINCE THIS HAPPENED, I HAVE SPOKEN TO VIDA, THE GENTLEMAN WHO TIMES THE, UM, TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND HE IMMEDIATELY WENT OUT THERE.
SO TWO DAYS AFTER WE WENT THROUGH ON MARCH 27TH AND SPOKE TO EVERYONE.
HE WAS OUT THERE AND HE DID DETERMINE THAT YES, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
IT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND HE ELONGATED IT EVER SO SLIGHTLY, BUT IT IS LONGER THAN IT WAS.
UM, I DID DO SOME DIGGING INTO THE TRAFFIC CALMING THAT IS FOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT IS NOT FOR A COMMERCIAL SITE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT THROUGH.
SO WE DID ASK EVERYONE THE QUESTION, DO YOU WANT TO LIMIT PARKING ALONG PRODUCTION DRIVE? SO THE, UM, BUILDINGS OUTLINED IN GREEN WERE THE BUILDINGS THAT SAID YES, THEY WANTED SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE PARKING ALONG PRODUCTION DRIVE.
THE RED BUILDINGS SAID THAT NO, THEY DID NOT.
THE BLACK BUILDINGS EITHER, UM, WERE NOT AVAILABLE, THE DOORS WERE LOCKED, THERE WAS NO ONE THERE, OR THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE RESULTS OF OUR STUDY AND OF ALL OF OUR WORK GOING UP AND DOWN.
SO I THINK THAT WE'VE, UM, WE ADDRESSED WHAT WE COULD ADDRESS IMMEDIATELY, AND WE TOOK CARE OF THAT.
AND WE'VE BRING YOU THIS MATTER ABOUT DO YOU WANT TO RESTRICT PARKING ALONG PRODUCTION DRIVE? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, MR. NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, WELL, I, I GUESS IT'S, UM, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST PEOPLE ON THE ROAD WOULD LIKE NO PARKING.
SO, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
MR. SHEPHERD? I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S, TO ME, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT WHERE A BUSINESS COMMUNITY, OTHER, OTHER THAN 'EM BEING FLOODED OUT LIKE THEY DID, I THINK AT THE VICTORY, UH, UM, DISTRICT INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHERE THEY'VE COME TOGETHER, UH, OVER, OVER AN ISSUE THAT'S, UH, ESSENTIAL, I, I THINK AFFECTS THEIR BUSINESSES AND THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO, UH, IT, IT STRIKES ME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY, IT'S GOTTA BE PROBABLY MORE THAN 80%, MORE LIKE 85% OF THE BUSINESSES THERE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
MR. DO, I WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHERE THE RESOLUTION IS THAT WE, WE HAD FROM LAST TIME, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY, I THINK THE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST MEETING WAS, DID THEY WANT PARKING ON NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD OR ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD? DID THAT QUESTION GET ASKED? YES, WE ASKED BOTH QUESTIONS.
I ONLY HAD TWO PEOPLE RESPOND TO ME THAT THEY WANTED TO GO WITH ONE SIDE.
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PUT IT TOGETHER AS, AS ONE RESPONSE WE'RE DONE.MY, MY QUESTION, UM, YEAH, THANKS.
WHEN WE SAY INSTITUTE PARK RESTRICTIONS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? ON PRODUCTION DRIVE THAT WE WOULD BE INSTALLING? UM, SIGNS THAT SAY NO PARKING ALONG THE ROADWAY ON, ON ALONG PRODUCTION DRIVE.
SIGNS AND THE, AND THE CUL-DE-SAC.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCED BY OUR, OUR DEPUTIES NEEDED? CORRECT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? IF NOT, MAY I THEN, THEN PROPOSE? YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? YES.
A DOC ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FOUR.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY? WAS THIS A PUBLIC HEARING? NO, WE DID THAT LAST TIME.
WE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING LAST TIME.
SO ANOTHER COMMENTS I WILL ASK FOR ROLL CALL.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOEL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FOUR TO AMEND THE YORK COUNTY CODE PARKING PROHIBITED OR RESTRICTED AND SPECIF AND SPECIFIED PLACES TO ADD PRODUCTION DRIVE TO THE LIST OF PLACES WITHIN THE STATE'S SECONDARY SYSTEM OF HIGHWAYS IN YORK COUNTY WHERE PARKING IS PROHIBITED.
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THE LAST PAGE.WE HAVE, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS. ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
SECOND ONE IS THE 2024 IAND, THE YOUTH AWARD SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE ITEMS 12 AND 13 AS A COM COMMENDATIONS FOR RETIRING EMPLOYEES.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE FOUR? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE ANY OF THE FOUR POLL FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE? ALL RIGHT.
IF NOT, CAN I GET A, UM, MOTION FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR? I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. HORO IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
UH, THE NEXT WE'RE MEETING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR
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WILL BE AT SIX O'CLOCK TUESDAY, MAY 7TH, THE EAST ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT, THERE WAS ONE FOLLOW UP I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS TONIGHT.
AND THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION OF MS. LASKA AND THE HERITAGE HUMANE.
AND WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, ANY KIND OF AN INCREMENT TO THE BUDGET FOR THAT SITUATION.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOG THAT AS AN OPEN ITEM ON OUR BUDGET TALKS.
ON THAT, ON THAT NOTE, UM, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO.
WE DO NEED SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT.
WE, WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE GOT TO START PUTTING HARD NUMBERS IN ORDINANCES AND PAPERWORK, GETTING THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE AND THE TREASURER SET UP SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO MOVE ON MAY 7TH.
SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH US.
THE THE OTHER THING THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IS, HONESTLY, WE HAVE ABOUT A WEEK THAT I NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS AMONGST THE FIVE OF YOU, MR. RUN, WHEN YOU AND I SPOKE A LITTLE MORE THAN A WEEK AGO ABOUT WHERE WE WERE WITH THE BUDGET, MY HOPE WAS THAT WE WERE ALL CLOSE ENOUGH THAT YOU, YOU COULD I SAY WE U FIVE? UM, WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE COULD PUT THIS TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME IDEA WHEN WE WALK THAT AIR TONIGHT, WHAT IT IS THAT WE WERE DOING? UH, I I STILL HEAR A LITTLE, UM, NOT SURE.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE STAFF HAS GOT THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY NEED.
SO I, IN THE NEXT WEEK, I, I NEED TO KNOW.
WELL, YOU GONNA, YOU GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA NEED US TO TALK.
WE'VE GOTTA TALK THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY POINT.
WELL, YOU, STEVE WILL DO IT TONIGHT.
IF WE HAVE TO, I'D RECOMMEND DOING THAT.
JUST GET IT OVER WITH BECAUSE YOU GET IT.
WELL, WE GOT THE NEXT SESSION'S A WORK SESSION, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, RIGHT? YES SIR.
THAT'S THE FRONT PART OF MAY, RIGHT? YEP.
WE WORK OUT STUFF NOW, OR, OR WE CAN'T KEEP PUSHING IT OFF.
DO WE HAVE A QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE A WORK SESSION? WE HAVEN'T HAD AN EXTRA SESSION ON THIS OR NOT, YOU HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER WORK SESSION.
WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR ADVERTISING? WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT, DO WE? WE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
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ALRIGHT.AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK IT OUT TONIGHT THEN.
SO WE'LL INTRODUCE SOME NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT AND AS TO CLOSE THE OLD BUSINESS FIGURE, FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE BUDGET'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON MAY 7TH.
WHO WANTS TO START? I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH THE, UM, CIP PAYMENT OF 750,000.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE PULL THAT FROM THE BUDGET AND WE PAY THAT IN THE FALL.
LIKE WE HAVE EVERY OTHER YEAR FROM OUR FISCAL YEAR SURPLUS.
UH, I DON'T SEE A SPECIFIC NEED FOR ADDING IT IN THE SPRING AS A TAXPAYER ONLY, UH, BUDGET LINE ITEM.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT COMES OUT, ALRIGHT.
WHAT, UM, MR. BELLAMY, WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS TO ADD THAT UP IN, IN THE FRONT END? WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER? SO IF YOU WERE TO REMOVE THE $750,000 AND NOT REMOVE A PROJECT FROM THE CIP, IT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE WASH.
BUT IF YOU DON'T REMOVE THE PROJECT, THAT'S BORROWING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO LATER.
BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS BASED ON THAT $750,000.
SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WOULD REMOVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AT THIS MOMENT? I DO NOT.
SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE, UH, HOMEWORK FOR YOU.
SO I, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GO BACK AND RE WELL, I MEAN, WHY GONNA WORK FOR ME? I GAVE, I GAVE YOU A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE COULD GET RID OF.
THIS IS WHERE WE WORK STUFF OUT.
I MEAN, THERE AIN'T NO COMING BACK.
THIS IS WHERE WE WORK IT OUT BECAUSE YOU EITHER THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER AND WE DON'T HAVE LEGALLY ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
WE EITHER, WE EITHER COME TO AGREEMENT OR WE DON'T.
I MEAN, NORMALLY IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE HAD IS WORK SESSIONS DURING ON THURSDAYS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT THIS TIME, BUT ANYWAY, WE DIDN'T.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY PO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A POSITION? I'LL GIVE YOU A POSITION.
I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THIS LIST.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE SHOPPING LIST, THE CUTS.
UM, AND, AND I STARTED THINKING, OKAY, THE EASIEST THING IS IF YOU WANTED TO SAVE A PENNY, YOU GET, THEN WHERE, WHERE WOULD YOU GO? YOU GO TO, YOU GO TO PERSONNEL INCREASES.
I MEAN, SHERIFF WON'T GET HIS DEPUTIES, THE FIREFIGHTING BUSINESS WON'T GET ITS FIREFIGHTERS.
BUT IF WE DO THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GETTING, UH, ABOUT $900,000.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A, NOT EVEN, THAT'S NOT A PENNY ON THE THING.
SO I LOOK DOWN THE LIST, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MESS WITH THE VRS.
A LOT OF THAT'S STATE DRIVEN ANYWAY.
UM, HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE, YOU'RE NOT MESSING WITH THAT.
NOW YOU CAN, I'M GONNA JUMP OVER THIS INFLATIONARY INCREASE BUDGET, INFLATIONARY INCREASE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL IS INCLUDED IN THAT.
I MEAN, I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TALK ABOUT THAT INFORMATION.
SO THEN YOU DON'T, THEN YOU START HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THESE SYSTEMS. UH, AND THAT'S ALL PART AND PARCEL OF A TOTAL, A TOTAL OF PACKAGE THAT YOU BUILD UP ON.
UM, THE, YOU'RE GONNA, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDER, WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOTTA PUT FURNITURE AND STUFF IN IT, BUT THAT'S ONLY 115,000.
SO EMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION, I LET YOU KNOW THIS MORNING WHEN I TALKED TO THE, UH, MAYOR, I MET WITH THE MAYOR OF HAMPTON.
THEY'VE GOT, UH, ABOUT 50 EMPLOYEES THERE THAT ARE GETTING A FIF A 13% PAY INCREASE.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A, UH, A COMPRESSION FACTOR, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T MESS WITH COMPENSATION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
THAT AT ONE TIME WE DID THAT BY 2007 OR EIGHT, AND THAT DID NOT TURN OUT WELL.
UH, SCHOOL TRANSFER, IF WE WANNA START A FOOD FIGHT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THIS, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF THERE.
NOW, IN THE PAST, I WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVE, WE, WE USED TO DO THAT.
UM, NOW WE'VE GOT, UH, BASED UPON WHAT NEIL DID WITH, UH, SHANDOR AND NOW WITH, UH, MARK, THEY KIND OF NEGOTIATED TO, TO KEEP THE, THE TURMOIL THAT, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE, BUT IF YOU WANNA MAKE A CUT, THERE'S $2.3 MILLION THAT YOU CAN TAKE.
300,000 OR SOMETHING OUT OF THAT, WHICH YOU, YOU KNOW, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANYWAY.
I LOOKED AT THIS $750, SEVEN 50,000 FOR CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDING.
THAT IS WHAT GOT, UM, WAS IT PETERSBURG IN OUR EMPORIA GOT 'EM IN TROUBLE.
AND THEY, THEY JUST SAID, OKAY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS SAID, WELL, OKAY, WE, WE WILL JUST NOT DO THE FUNDING FOR OUR CAPITAL PLAN, UH, CAPITAL PLANS.
AND THEN AFTER A WHILE, THINGS STARTED GOING SOUTH 'CAUSE BUILDINGS AND WHATNOT AND THE POWER OR ELECTRICITY, WHATEVER THEY NEEDED FAILED.
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THEN EVENTUALLY THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAD TO STEP IN AND TAKE OVER.SO THAT'S A LESSON I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH.
UM, THEN THE SHERIFF AND WHATNOT.
SO ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK INTO BUDGET, INFLATIONARY INCREASES, UH, EXCLUDING JCC, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THAT.
BUT I THINK WE CAN ALSO, I THINK, UM, UM, STEVE HERE HAD MENTIONED THAT WE COULD GO IN AND PLAY A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
UH, MAYBE TAKE A, YOU KNOW, TAKE 5 CENTS OFF THAT TO HELP REDUCE THAT BECAUSE OF THE STATE COMPENSATION OR STATE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN FOR, UH, SO FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
OTHER THAN THAT, I, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SET THE, WE SET THE POLICY.
THIS BOARD HAS SET THE POLICY FOR HOW WE FUND AND HOW WE, THE RESERVES THAT WE SET.
AND, UM, I'M NOT COMING OFF OF IT.
I HAVE, I'M JUST, I'M, I MEAN I'M THERE WITH THAT, BUT I CAN TAKE A LITTLE TWEAKING ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU'RE ALL LOOKING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THE YEAR IS AHEAD OF US.
IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND I THINK WE'VE TAKEN ENOUGH OUT OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND WE CAN LOOK AT THIS NEXT YEAR.
I, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, I THINK THE STAFF HAS DONE A, A GOOD JOB PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, YES, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ATTACK, BUT WE'VE DONE ENOUGH FOR THIS YEAR.
DID YOU SEE, DID YOU GUYS GET THIS CHART THEN? YOU GUYS GOT THIS CHART RIGHT NEXT YEAR YOU SAW THESE CHARTS? YEAH, I DO.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHART HERE.
THIS IS WHERE, BASED UPON WHAT OUR, THE HARD WORK THAT OUR STAFF HAS DONE, THAT IF YOU, IF WE, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL HERE YEAH.
YOU COULD SAVE A FEW BUCKS NOW, BUT THEN YOU FALL OFF.
AND, AND, AND LESS THAN FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND RAISE TAXES.
TO MEET ALL THE, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE, UH, I MEAN, I MEAN I THOUGHT THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST CHARTS I'VE EVER SEEN.
WELL, WE'RE GETTING READY TO SHOW IT TO YOU AGAIN.
CURIOUS CHART, JUST SO IT'S A, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS SOMETHING THAT PFM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS DID FOR US.
PFM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS DID FOR US.
AND WHAT THIS IS, IS A PROJECTION OF, UM, WHAT WE MAY LOOK LIKE, UM, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
IT'S 74 CENT IF WE USE A 74 CENT RATE BASED ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT IN FOUR YEARS, YOU SEE IT GOING DOWN.
THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE FOR CAPITAL PROGRAMS WITHIN OUR OPERATING FUND.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE PROJECTED UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS OUR POLICY.
AND IT SAYS IN FOUR YEARS, WE POTENTIALLY COULD BE BELOW OUR POLICY AT 74 CENT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT SHOW, SHOW US THAT.
AT 73 CENT IT TELLS US IN THE THIRD YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, OPERATIONAL.
AND IN, AND IN THREE YEARS, WE'LL ALSO BE UNDERFUNDED IN OUR FUND BALANCE UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING TO ADJUST IT.
AND AND THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, RIGHT? WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE ON MAY 7TH ISN'T JUST FOR FISCAL YEAR.
AND BASED ON THAT PROJECTION, WHICH I HAVE A COPY OF THAT IN, IN MY MM-HMM.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS FISCALLY IR IRRESPONSIBLE.
THAT IS NOT IN, THAT IS NOT IN DEAR TRUST IN US AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD FISCAL DECISIONS IF IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW DECISION WE MAKE TODAY, WE GOTTA TURN AROUND AND, AND MAKE A CHANGE UP.
WHERE THAT'S I, THAT, THAT'S VERY BOTHER.
AND ALSO GOT ANOTHER, UH, PROJECTION HERE AS WELL.
IF, IF I'M READING IT RIGHT AND MR. BELLAMY, KEEP ME HONEST HERE, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU HELPED ME WITH THIS.
IF WE DID MOVE TO 73 CENTS FROM 74, THE DELTA CHANGE AND OUT OF POCKET SAVINGS IS LESS THAN $4 A MONTH.
SO IF, SO WE, WE CAN BE AT RISK IF WE GO TO 73 CENTS ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE, WE COULD BE AT RISK IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW TALKING ABOUT A BUDGET WHERE WE'RE GONNA OPERATE IN THE RED AND WE'RE ONLY SAVING $4 LESS THAN $4 A MONTH OUT, OUT PEOPLE'S POCKET.
I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
MARK, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THAT, THE, IF I'VE GOT THOSE SLIDES AS WELL PLEASE.
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74 CENT.THIS IS EDGEHILL SUBDIVISION AT 74 CENTS.
AND UM, IT INCLUDES THE NET, ASSUMING SOMEBODY HAS TWO VEHICLES, $28 AND 30 CENTS.
EDGEHILL IS ABOUT THE MEDIAN AVERAGE OF ALL THE HOMES IN, IN YORK COUNTY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE EDGE HILL.
AND AGAIN, HERE IT IS AT 73 CENTS, WHICH IS 4 CENTS OFF THE TAX RATE FOR 24 99 A MONTH.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE, UM, $5, $4 OR SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S REAL WORLD DOLLARS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
'CAUSE IT'S HARD WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT 73, 70 4 CENTS PER HUNDRED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PERCENTAGES.
BUT HERE THOSE ARE REAL WORLD NUMBERS.
AND, AND ANOTHER THING WE, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE WE, IT DOESN'T ESCAPE PEOPLE'S, UM, THOUGHT PROCESS IS TWO YEARS IS A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR ANYTHING TO REALLY CHANGE FINANCIALLY, ECONOMICALLY IN THE COUNTY.
YOU CAN SEE SOME VERY BIG CHANGES THERE THAT SHOULD GIVE, UM, SOME BUSINESSES THAT WE KNOW HAVE, HAVE SUBMITTED SITE PLANS TO GET UP AND RUNNING, ACTUALLY PRODUCING REVENUE.
UH, A A BIG ONE THAT WE APPROVED THE FEW WEEKS, FEW MONTHS AGO IS THE, UH, THE, UM, NEW YORKTOWN CRESCENT CHANGE, WHICH IS GONNA BRING A PUBLIX IN MM-HMM.
THEN WE CAN, AND, AND ALL KINDS OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
FOUR YEARS GIVES 'EM ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY GET THAT BILL AND BUILD AND START GENERATE REVENUE.
SO THAT PUTS US FURTHER IN THE HOLE.
FOUR YEARS GIVES US TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT REVENUE IN.
AND MAYBE WE WOULD DRIVE THE RATE DOWN MORE AT THAT POINT AS OPPOSED TO FLIP FLOPPING UP AND DOWN.
SO AGAIN, YOU YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTIONS, BUT YOU GOTTA WORK WITH THE DATA YOU HAVE.
AND THE DATA WE HAVE DOES NOT LOOK VERY, UH, ENTICING AT 73 CENTS FOR A 74 CENTS.
NOW CONVERSELY, WORKING WITH MR. BELLAMY AND MS. OWENS LOOKING AT 5 CENTS OFF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, THAT IS SUSTAINABLE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSORB.
AND IT DOES NOT PUT US IN THAT SAME POSITION AS, AS TAKE ANOTHER CENT OFF OF THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY I I PUT THAT OUT THERE AND SAY, LET'S PULL 5 CENTS HERE, TURN THAT KNOB, TURN THIS KNOB, TURN OFF THE, THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE AND GO WITH THAT.
AND LIKE MS. NOEL SAYS, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SEE WHAT WE SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO THAT'S SO MY, MY, SO MY DIRECTION YOU'RE ASKING MY DIRECTION IS YOU LEAVE IT AT 74 CENTS.
WE TAKE THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE OUT, LIKE WE SAID, AND LET'S TAKE 5 CENT OFF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE AND AND SPREAD THAT, SPREAD THAT AROUND TO EVERYBODY IN, IN THE COUNTY.
CAN WE HAVE MS. OWENS JUST ADDRESS THE CIP ISSUE WHILE SHE'S THERE? SURE.
SO, SO IF YOU DID NOT FUND THE CIP IN THE SPRING AND YOU WAITED TILL FISCAL YEAR 24 IS COMPLETE AND YOU TOOK SURPLUSES FROM FISCAL YEAR 24, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WHEN WE'VE DONE THE CIP NOW, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'LL VOTE ON ON MAY 7TH, IS THE PLAN AND APPROPRIATE THAT FIRST YEAR WE'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ABOUT $3 MILLION OF SURPLUS IS GONNA GO TO THAT CIP PLAN ALREADY.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 750,000 TO FUND THAT IF YOU DON'T PUT IT IN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE AT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, I MEAN, AM I ANSWERING YOUR QUE I HOPE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT, UH, WE ALWAYS TALK, I HEARD SOMEBODY TALK EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT THE, THE RES UH, I GUESS THE RESERVE.
WE KEEP THAT WHAT WHAT 12% RESERVE 12%.
AND I MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDER, WE GOTTA REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT UNTIL I GOT INTO MORE INTO IT, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR TIME IS THAT OUR MONEY, THIS RESERVE COVERS US FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AT A TIME, DOESN'T IT? MM-HMM.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIT HERE AND GUESS AT WHAT OUR, WHAT WE NEED, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT RESERVE DOES.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD AND THAT WE MAY END UP HAVING TO DIP INTO THAT AND, AND SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE, IF WE HAVE TO DON'T HAVE IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP A LOT AFFECTS SEVERAL OF 'EM.
UM, AND HAMPTON ROADS HAVE ENDED UP ALL OF A SUDDEN WITHOUT AN ADEQUATE RESERVE, HAVE ENDED UP ALL OF A SUDDEN HAD TO GO BORROW MONEY TO COVER THEIR EXPENSES.
AND THIS RESERVE COVERS A LOT OF STUFF.
I WON'T, I CAN'T THINK OF ALL THE DETAIL.
I, SO ANYWAY, I MEAN THAT'S, I I'M DONE TALKING ON THIS STUFF.
SO YOU ASKED MR. HOR A QUESTION, BUT I DIDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT ALL TOGETHER.
SO YOU WERE ASKING IF WE DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE THE SEVEN 50 NOW YOU WERE ANSWERING WHAT DOES THAT DO IN THE FALL? SO TELL ME AGAIN, I I DIDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY Y'ALL ARE GONNA VOTE ON THE CIP IN MAY, YOU KNOW, IN JUST A FEW WEEKS YOU'LL VOTE ON THAT CIP WITHIN THAT CIP YOU ALREADY HAVE $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA USE OF
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ANY SURPLUS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN THE 24 UM, FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WILL BE USED FUND WITHIN OUR 5% BEST PRACTICES FOR CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.IT'S, IT IS WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT RANGE THAT WE'VE HAD KIND OF IN SURPLUS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 22.
BUT, UM, YES, IT'S WITHIN THAT RANGE.
SO WE'RE ALREADY USING $3 MILLION OF THAT SURPLUS ALREADY OF UNSPENT REVENUE OVER EXPENSES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
FOR NEXT YEAR'S 25 PLANNED CIP.
SO IF YOU ADD, IF YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND DON'T REDUCE YOUR CIP OR DON'T REDUCE THE CIP THAT YOU'RE GONNA VOTE ON NEXT WEEK, THEN WE HAVE TO PULL ANOTHER SEVEN 50 FROM THAT, FROM SURPLUS AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE IT.
SO 3 MILLION IS ABOUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
I APPRECIATED THAT WE ARE, WE'RE ALREADY, UH, ACCOUNTING FOR 3 MILLION A SURPLUS TO, UH, TO ALREADY GO IN THE PLAN YOU'VE ALREADY GOT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, SO WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE YOU THEN I CAN SUPPORT YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF UH OKAY.
A NICKEL OFF ON PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND LEAVE AND THE REST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE'VE ALREADY HAD 'EM.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, SO LET'S PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR ALL FIVE OF US.
SO WHAT, WHAT I HAD PROPOSED WAS THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS 74 CENTS, NO VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE AND 3 85 ON THE, UM, ON THE, ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
WAS IT 5 CENT OFF OR? I STILL HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH WITH THAT AMOUNT OF OFF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
WHAT, WHAT YOU GOT? I, I THINK WE, WE'VE GOT A GOOD BUDGET AND THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD SAVE THAT UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO TAKE THAT OFF.
WE'RE ALREADY TAKING OFF ENOUGH THIS YEAR.
WELL, SHEILA, THAT'S, I WANNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT, BUT THAT'S THE MONEY COMING IN FROM THE STATE THAT WE, WE DID NOT PLAN FOR THAT MONEY TO COME IN FROM THE STATE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPENSATION THAT YEAH, IT'S COMING IN AND THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT'S WHERE THAT 5 CENTS COMES FROM.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A WASH FOR US.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE ALREADY HAVE THE LOWEST, PROBABLY THE LOWEST PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX IN, IN AMP ROADS.
MAYBE ONE OTHER MIGHT HAVE IT SECOND LOWEST SECOND, SECOND LOWEST.
BUT, BUT ANYWAYS, WAS IT WILLIAMSBURG? FORGET WHERE IT IS.
OKAY, SO THREE FIVE, THAT'S, THAT'S A WASH, RIGHT? SO RIGHT.
WE'RE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT TO, TO ME ALL THAT ALL THOSE THREE THINGS ARE SUSTAINABLE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID, NEXT YEAR WE GOT, WELL WHAT, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO WITH THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE IS SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO WITH THE PERSONAL PRIVATE TAX.
BUT I THINK THIS, THIS IS A BITE THAT WE CAN TAKE RIGHT NOW AND, AND AND WE SHOULD, WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN WITHOUT RUNNING TO DO THAT PROBLEM.
WE WITHOUT HAVING TO RAISE TAXES NEXT YEAR.
IT DOESN'T TAKE US BELOW THAT LINE.
AS POSITIVE AS OUR FORECAST TELLS US.
TRUST ME, I I KNOW MS. OWENS WELL ENOUGH THAT IF I PROPOSED THAT AND, AND SHE WAS UPSET ABOUT IT, I I WOULD'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE, BECAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE PUSHED, I HAVE PUSHED HER OVER THE EDGE MORE THAN ONCE AND SHE HAD TRIED TO TAKE ME WITH HER, SO SHE DIDN'T TRY TO TAKE ME WITH HER THIS TIME.
SO, SO, SO AGAIN THE, ALRIGHT ARE WE COM ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING MR. BELLAMY DIRECTION TO MAKE THAT THE BUDGET FOR US TO APPROVE ON THE SEVENTH? ANYBODY GOT A THUMBS UP HERE? DOESN'T KNOW.
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I SAY AT THIS POINT THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
THERE'S FOUR AGAINST ONE, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I SAY.
WHAT IS HE SAYING? SO WE, I I I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR, SO IF, IF, IF, IF THAT'S NOT AGREEABLE TO THEN WHAT, WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, IT DOES MATTER BECAUSE YOU NEED, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.
SO, SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOUR PROPOSAL BE? MOVE ON.
YOU OKAY WITH WHAT I PROPOSE? WE'LL MOVE ON MS. ROY.
AND, AND, AND CAN WE COME BACK TO HERITAGE? 'CAUSE I THINK HE STILL NEEDED AN ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
BUT, BUT I, I WAS TRYING TO TAKE THE, THE BIG ONE, WHICH IS RIGHT.
WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THAT MONEY MAYBE HAD TO GIVE HERITAGE.
WELL, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS, WAS SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE ON WHAT SHE WAS ASKING.
SHE SAID SHE WANTED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 35,050.
AND I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REASONABLE, BUT 7,500 IS PROBABLY A REASONABLE SOLUTION FOR US TO PROPOSE.
WAS THIS, UH, WHICH THIS IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER? YEAH.
HOW MUCH IS SHE, I COULDN'T HEAR HOW MUCH SHE WAS ASKING FOR.
WELL, SHE SAID ONE FIFTH OF THE TOTAL BUDGET IN YORK COUNTY W WOULD BE 50,000.
UH, SHE IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING 35,000.
I THINK THAT'S A BIG ASK FOR US TO, THAT'S A BIG ASK TO TRY AND GET TO 50,000 IN ONE YEAR.
BUT I I, I'D CONSIDER SPLITTING THE
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DIFFERENCE AT 7,500.UM, SO LET LET THE, LET THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR GO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO YEAH, SO, AND JUST LET HIM FIND IT UNDER THE RUG SOMEWHERE.
TAKE AWAY FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO BRING US BACK ON MAY 7TH IS A BUDGET THAT HAS 74 CENTS ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
ELIMINATION OF THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE.
5 CENT OFF THE PERSONAL PRIVATE TAX RATES AT 3 85 AND FINDING 7,500, I THINK YOU SAID.
YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET FOR US TO CONSIDER ON MAY 7TH.
LOOKS LIKE THAT THAT WILL BE, DO.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU NEED IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S GETTING WORK DONE.
THAT'S GOOD JOB FOLKS LIKE THAT.
ALL RIGHT, NOW BACK TO WHAT I STARTED SAYING BEFORE MOVING INTO ADJOURNMENT.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD AT SIX O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY, MAY 7TH, 2024 IN THE EAST ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.
YOUR CALL, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.