Apr 10, 2024 Planning Commission

UH, MINUTES, DOES EVERYONE RECEIVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES? ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS? NOPE.

UH, FROM OUR LAST MEETING,

[4. Approve Minutes– March 13, 2024]

HAVING NONE.

WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THE MOTION BY MR. WEER IS TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 13TH, 2024.

FLOOR, UH, TO CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD.

MR. TITUS? YES.

MS. LITA? YES.

MR. KING ABSTAIN.

I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING.

UH, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE

[5. Citizen Comments]

AND THIS IS A PERIOD FOR CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT, UH, ON THE AGENDA.

UH, SO AT THIS TIME, IF ANYONE HAS ANY ITEMS FOR THE COMMISSION, AGAIN THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD.

UH, HAVING NONE.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR

[Items Application No. UP-1019-23 & Application No. UP-1020-23]

PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, WE HAVE THREE TONIGHT.

UH, STAFF WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK, UH, FOLLOWED BY CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

OVER TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT Y'ALL.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THERE'S THE DENBY LAW FIRM THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING TWO SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS ARE AT THE SAME SITE, 9 0 5 DENBY BOULEVARD.

IT'S FOR ACCESSORY FUEL DISPENSING AND ONE IS FOR MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSES.

SO YOU'LL SEE THERE, UM, I'VE OUTLINED THE PARCEL IN THAT BRIGHT BLUE HIGHLIGHT.

THAT'S 9 0 5 DENBY BOULEVARD, THE SUBJECT PARCEL, IT'S ALMOST SIX ACRES.

UM, AND YOU'LL SEE ALSO IT ACTUALLY ABUTS THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS.

I'VE SHOWN THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY IN THAT SORT OF LIKE DASHED PINK HIGHLIGHT THERE.

THE PARCEL ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS, IT'S SURROUNDED BY GENERAL BUSINESS PROPERTIES.

IT'S ALSO ZONED COMMERCIAL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE ADJACENT ZONING IN THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS IS R NINE AND THAT'S THE HUNTINGTON DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THEIR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A BABY AT HOME.

SO WE ARE, UH, WORKING ON LIMITED SLEEP.

UM, SO YOU SEE AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY THERE.

UM, AGAIN, I'VE REPRESENTED IT IN THAT BLUE HIGHLIGHT JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY WITH NEWPORT NEWS IN THAT HOT PINK DASH LINE.

I'VE ALSO REPRESENTED HERE.

YOU SEE THAT WITH THAT GREEN DASH LINE, THERE IS A 200 FOOT WIDE VIRGINIA POWER EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY ALMOST BY SEX IT AND IT ALMOST CUCUMBERS ABOUT 50% OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND YOU KIND OF SEE THAT IT'S A TRANSMISSION EASEMENT.

SO YOU SEE IT CLEARED THROUGH A STRAIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THEN THROUGH DANBY.

AND THAT'S AN AERIAL, UM, PHOTO OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PARCEL.

SO THIS USED TO BE THE RIPS CONVENIENCE STORE.

IT WAS BUILT IN ABOUT 1982, UM, RECENTLY PURCHASED AND IS NOW A STOP AND GO.

BUT THAT IS ALL THAT IS ON THE PARCEL CURRENTLY.

SO I HAD AN ARROW TO THIS ON THE PRIOR SLIDE.

UM, THIS AERIAL HERE IS A LITTLE OUTDATED.

IT'S FROM 2021, SO KIND OF WHERE MY NORTH ARROW IS HERE.

UM, THERE'S APARTMENTS BEING CONSTRUCTED IN HUNTINGTON RIGHT NOW.

SO TO KINDA SEGUE INTO SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, TO THE NORTH FAIR, WE HAVE HUNTINGTON PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND WEST IN NEWPORT NEWS.

AND THEN TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, IT'S MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED LAND,

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AND THOSE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.

THAT FIRST PHOTO ON THE LEFT IS I'M STANDING LIKE ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PARCEL LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

UM, AND THAT'S A VIEW OF, YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

AND THEN VACANT LAND PHOTO ON THE RIGHT IS ME LOOKING NORTH.

UM, AND THAT'S THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN HUNTINGTON.

JUST TWO OTHER PHOTOS FOR YOU.

UM, I'M STANDING AT THE SITE DRIVEWAY SOUTH, UM, LOOKING DIRECTLY SOUTH AND YOU SEE THAT VIEW OF THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES IN THE DOMINION EASEMENT.

AND THEN PHOTO ON THE RIGHT IS ME LOOKING DIRECTLY WEST.

UM, SO AGAIN, YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS FROM THAT VIEW.

SO YOU PROBABLY NOTICED THIS IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWS A NUMBER OF USES THAT LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT'S COVERED BY THESE TWO APPLICATIONS.

SO I'M GONNA KIND OF BREAK THAT DOWN.

SO THE SUBJECT OF THE TWO APPLICATIONS TONIGHT ARE THE TWO PROPOSED SPECIAL USES.

AGAIN, THERE'S THAT ACCESSORY FUEL PUMPS.

THERE'S GONNA BE SIX PUMPS ON THREE FUEL ISLANDS.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS THAT MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSING THAT'S GONNA BE LOCATED BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

AND THEY'RE PROPOSING EIGHT WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS WITH 225 UNITS OF VARYING SIZES.

SO THAT'S A VIEW OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, I WILL MAKE THAT LARGER IN THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THE GAS PUMPS, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT I TRIED TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT CC IN THE REAR THERE, THE PROPOSED MINI STORAGE BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

IT'S GONNA BE GATED.

AND THEN TO THE FRONT THERE, THE GAS PUMPS, THOSE ARE GONNA BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

UM, PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TWO DRIVEWAYS ON DENBY.

AND THERE'S SOME LITTLE CANOPY OVER THOSE GAS PUMPS AS WELL.

YOU ALSO NOTICE ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN THERE'S SOME BUYRIGHT USES AS WELL.

SO THERE IS A TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROPOSED TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

THEY HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED LIKE A SPECIFIC USE OR USER IN THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDING YET.

CURRENTLY IT'S SORT OF THE PARKING WAS CALCULATED, I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER.

WAS CALCULATED, IS IT LIKE A WHOLESALING OFFICE SORT OF USE, BUT AGAIN, NO SOLID IDENTIFIED USE OR USER.

THE OTHER USE IS A DRIVE THROUGH THAT'S GONNA BE ATTACHED TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

NOW I WANNA POINT OUT THE DRIVE THROUGH ITSELF IS BY RIGHT.

HOWEVER, TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRIVE THROUGH THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS GONNA BE EXPANDED.

NOW THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING AS A USE.

SO TO EXPAND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT WILL BE GOING IN MAY, HOPEFULLY IN TANDEM WITH THESE TWO APPLICATIONS TO THE BOARD MEETING.

SO AGAIN, JUST KIND OF VISUALLY SHOWING YOU ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, CIRCLED IN BLUE IS THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

AND THEN I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT'S THE EXPANSION AREA OF WHERE THE EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE IS GONNA BE BUMPED OUT A LITTLE BIT AND WHERE THE DRIVE THROUGH IS GONNA GO.

PHOTOS FOR YOU.

UM, ON THE LEFT, THAT'S THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA BE EXPANDED, WHERE THE DRIVE THROUGH'S GONNA BE INSTALLED.

AND THEN PHOTO ON THE RIGHT, THERE'S THIS KIND OF GRASSY LAWN AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDING'S GONNA SIT.

WANDA, BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

SO IN YOUR PACKET YOU'LL SEE THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THESE APPLICATIONS.

UM, WON'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE LENGTHY, BUT TO BREAK DOWN THE IMPACTS ON THIS SITE.

SO THIS SECTION OF DENBY CARRIES ABOUT 12,700 TRIPS DAILY BASED ON VDOT NUMBERS.

SO WHAT THE CONSULTANT DID FOR THE TIA IS ESSENTIALLY SHE TOOK ESPECI ALL THE COMBINED USES ON SITE.

SO EITHER THE, THE SPECIALLY PROPOSED USES, THE MINI STORAGE AND THE GAS PUMPS THAT ARE PROPOSED, THE APPLICATION, THE EXISTING USE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.

AND THEN SHE ALSO LOOKED AT THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AS WELL.

SO COMBINING ALL THOSE TOGETHER, AS FOR TRIP GENERATION, WE GET ABOUT 2,500 DAILY TRIPS FOR ALL THE PROPOSED LAND USES.

COMBINED.

I WANNA POINT OUT, UM, FOR CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS STATIONS, TYPICALLY, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DOING A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THEY'LL APPLY WHAT'S CALLED A PASS BY REDUCTION.

UM, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRIPS WOULD LESSEN BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD PASS BY THE USE IN THE INTEREST OF BEING CONSERVATIVE FOR THIS ANALYSIS, THOUGH, THE CONSULTANT DID NOT DO THAT.

SO KIND OF THE CULMINATIVE IMPACT OF THE ANALYSIS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO, THE CONSULTANT ALSO TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HUNTINGTON AND TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THEIR TRAFFIC AND PAST ANALYSIS THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND THE EVENTUAL INTENDED SIGNALIZATION OF THE INTERSECTION OF INDEPENDENCE IN DENBY WHEN BUILD OUT OCCURS, CONCLUDED THAT THE APPROPRIATE TR APPROPRIATE, UM, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

SO STRIP A LEFT TURN LANE ON DENBY THAT WOULD HAVE 200 FEET OF STORAGE ADDING TAPER TO THE EXISTING RIGHT TURN LANE.

THEY DID A TURN LANE WARRANT IN THE REVISED ANALYSIS.

AND THEN

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ANOTHER PORTION IS, SO DENBY MIGHT MAYBE BE WIDENED EVENTUALLY SOMEDAY TO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.

IT'S NOT IN THE PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED LONG RANGE TRANSIT PREVENTATION PLAN RIGHT NOW, THOUGH.

SO AS TO LIKE, REALISTICALLY WHEN THAT OCCUR, WE CAN'T REALLY SAY.

SO THE CONSULTANT OFFERED WHICH STAFF AGREES WITH THAT TO JUST LEAVE THE EXISTING SITE ENTRANCES ALONE FOR RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF CONVERTING THEM TO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUT ONLY RIGHT IN ONLY SITUATION TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON PARKING.

SO YOU SEE ON THE CHART THERE PROVIDED YOU FOR EACH LAND USE, PROPOSED ON SITE THE REQUIRED PARKING.

AND THEN WHAT'S PROVIDED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

ONE, EXPLAIN A COUPLE DISCREPANCIES.

FIRST IS, SO THIS ISN'T REALLY A DISCREPANCY, BUT FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING YOU'LL SEE NUMBER 15, AGAIN, THAT MIGHT CHANGE WHEN THIS GOES TO SITE PLAN BASED ON LIKE AN ACTUAL, LIKE CERTAIN RETAIL USE THAT'S IDENTIFIED FOR THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF ASSUMED AT BEING, UM, WHOLESALE OFFICE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT 15 NUMBER COMES.

AGAIN, THAT COULD CHANGE.

UM, FOR THE MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITY.

I'VE SHOWN THIS ON THIS SIDE, THERE'S 12 SPACES SHOWN.

THE OFFICE IS GONNA GENERATE TWO SPACES BY ITSELF.

SO AN ADDITIONAL TWO SPACES ARE GONNA NEED TO BE PROVIDED ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THIS, THE MINI STORAGE.

AND THAT'S JUST ANOTHER MORE ZOOMED IN VIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN AND WHERE THE PARKING'S ALL GOING TO BE LOCATED.

AGAIN, YOU'LL NOTE THAT DUE TO THE DOMINION EASEMENT, PARKING'S PRETTY TIGHT ON THE SITE.

IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT WOULD GO.

I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE SIGN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE PHOTO, THAT IS THE OLD RIP SIGN.

IT'S BEEN REPURPOSED FOR THE CURRENT USER THERE.

ASSUMING THE APPLICANT'S PROBABLY GONNA WANT TO ADVERTISE ALL OF THEIR BUSINESSES, UM, WE PROPOSE A CONDITION THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE MONUMENT SIGN ONE SINGLE MONUMENT SIGN FOR ALL THE COMBINED USES ON SITE.

SO I'M GONNA BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

UM, THIS IS FOR THE GAS PUMP SPECIFICALLY.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS BE INSTALLED.

GREEN BELT BUFFER.

SO DEBY BOULEVARD IS A GREEN BELT ROAD.

UM, THE SITE'S DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW AND UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO KIND OF WHERE THE VDOT RIGHT AWAY IS, AND THEN HOW THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED, THERE'S NO, THERE'S, YOU'LL SEE THIS LIKE LITTLE GRASSY MEDIAN STRIP, UM, IN THE FRONT YARD.

IT'S NOT VERY BIG.

SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION STAFF IS REQUIRING A RESTORATION OF THE GREEN BELT BUFFER AS IS FEASIBLE FOR WHAT CAN BE PLANTED THERE TO JUST KIND OF RESTORE IT.

UM, REITERATING A CONDITION THAT THE GAS PUMPS AND THE TANKS CANOPY, EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THE ISLANDS, IF THE USE CEASES FOR NINE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO AWAY AND BE REMOVED.

THAT SINGLE MONUMENT SIGN FOR ALL USES I MENTIONED EARLIER.

AND THEN FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE, LIKE SUBMITTING A HAZMAT PLAN AND THEN SOME PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THIS IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE MINI STORAGE, UM, FENCING.

WE'D LIKE THAT TO BE A BLACK ROT, IRON MATERIAL.

UM, AND PROHIBITING LIKE RAZOR WIRE OR BARBED WIRE FROM GOING ON TOP OF IT.

NOX BOX FOR THE GATES.

SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE STORAGE UNITS.

THERE'S A CONDITION THAT REGARDING THE STORMWATER POND.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE CONCEPT PLAN THE BMPS LOCATED IN THE DOMINION EASEMENT.

AND DONALD DAVIS COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT WE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC PERMISSION YET FROM DOMINION TO PUT THE BMP IN THE DOMINION EASEMENT.

SO IN THE CASE OF THIS GOING TO SITE PLAN AND THEM COMING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, CAN'T PUT YOUR BMP IN OUR EASEMENT, THE CONDITION ESSENTIALLY SAYS STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA NEED TO BE LOCATED ELSEWHERE ON SITE AND ACCOMMODATED TYPE 25 TRANSITIONAL BUFFER.

SO YOU CAN SEE IF WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THIS MINI STORAGE IN, THERE ARE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH.

WE WANNA BUFFER THOSE.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE A JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY, A TYPE 25 BUFFER IS REQUIRED.

IF THE ADJACENT PARCELS IN THE OTHER JURISDICTION ARE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED OR UTILIZED RESIDENTIAL IN THIS CASE, YES, THERE ARE, THERE'S APARTMENTS.

SO WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.

AND AGAIN, THAT SINGLE MONUMENT SIGN FOR ALL USES.

SO STAFF FEELS THAT THIS APPLICATION DOES PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE THE GREEN BUTT BUFFER ON DENBY TO PUT IN A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL USE AND THE APARTMENTS AND REALLY OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO RESTORE THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT.

THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS A LOT OF TIMES WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH GAS STATIONS, WITH BLIGHT OR DEGRADATION OF KIND OF THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, WE FEEL THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS A LOT OF STANDARDS TO PREVENT THAT.

AND OUR PROPOSED CONDITIONS ARE A KIND OF AN ADEQUATE SAFEGUARD TO PREVENT FURTHER BLIGHT.

THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, AGAIN, THIS WHOLE KIND OF CORRIDOR ZONE GENERAL BUSINESS, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT OF THE AREA.

THIS WOULD SERVE USERS IN HUNTINGTON'S SUPPOSEDLY AS WELL.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY A SITE PLAN'S GONNA HAVE TO BE APPROVED FOR THIS.

SO, AND IT'S KIND OF THINKING OF THE PARKING QUESTIONS AGAIN, THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND BE APPROVED.

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BEARING ALL THAT IN MIND, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH RESOLUTIONS FOR BOTH THESE APPLICATIONS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN EITHER.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS IS, UM, MR. DONALD DAVIS, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS.

SO ON, ON YOUR SLIDE, YOU TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING THE TAPER IN THE RIGHT TURN LANE.

UM, MM-HMM, .

BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS THAT THAT TAPER IS SUFFICIENT.

AND SO ARE THEY EXTENDING IT OR THEY, SO I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY MIGHT'VE BEEN A TYPO.

SO IN THE, AND THIS IS MY, UM, ERROR, SO IN THE APPENDICES OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, AT THE BACK END OF THAT, THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDED A RIGHT TA RIGHT TURN LANE WARRANT.

AND IN THE WARRANT IT DOES SHOW THAT THE TAPER NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT'LL COME BACK IN WHEN IT GOES TO SITE PLAN AS WELL.

UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING I ACTUALLY JUST CAUGHT TODAY.

SO THAT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND WHAT THEY SUBMITTED IN THEIR APPENDIX.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

UH, CRAIG? NO, NO, MAYOR.

UH, AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, HERE, MS. DONALD DAVIS, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

UH, IF YOU WANNA COME FORWARD AGAIN, YOUR ADDRESS AND KEEP IT DOWN TO 10 MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DONALD DAVIS.

I'M A LAND SURVEYOR AT DAVIS AND ASSOCIATES.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 36 30 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY HERE IN YORK COUNTY.

UM, THIS, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS HAD A LONG HISTORY OF ME WORKING ON IT.

WE ACTUALLY DID THE SITE PLAN BACK IN ABOUT 1980 OR SO.

UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, FIVE PLUS ACRES HERE.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS REALLY A MIXED USE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE WOULD BRING UP THE STANDARDS, THE PROPERTY THAT EXISTS TODAY.

UM, THE OWNER, MR. PIA IS HERE.

UM, HE IS HERE IF, UM, HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK IF YOU, UH, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT RATHER THAN GO BACK THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE STAFF AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT KAITLYN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF OUTLINING WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS AREA HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY WITHIN THE, PROBABLY THE LAST PROBABLY 20 TO 30 YEARS.

UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ADJACENT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 10,000 RESIDENCES THAT ARE WITHIN, UH, ONE, UH, MILE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S, UH, THE TIME NEEDS TO CHANGE NOW.

UH, WE'RE TAKING THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND UPGRADING THAT CONVENIENCE STORE, MAKING IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

WE'RE PUTTING IN FUEL DISPENSING PUMPS HERE, AND THOSE PUMPS, UH, ARE THE CLOSEST ONE TO MORE THAN ONE MILE FROM THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING MANY STORAGE.

AND THEN MANY STORAGE IS GONNA BE A REAL BOON FOR THE ADJACENT AREA OF NEWPORT NEWS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT EXIST.

UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON IT.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO SEND TO THE BOARD OF, UM, I'M SORRY, NOT THE BOARD OF ZONED APPEAL, BUT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, IN MAY.

AND, UH, RECOMMEND YOUR APPROVAL.

MEETS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY.

NOPE.

I NOW, MR. DAVIS, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE, UM, THE DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AROUND THE GAS PUMPS.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S ADEQUATE ENOUGH SPACE TO GET A COUPLE CARS THROUGH THERE, OR HOW'S THAT? THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? MM-HMM.

UH, YOUR COUNTY ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESS, THESE WOULD BE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

UH, THEY WON'T BE, UH, DUAL LANE ACCESSES TO THE PARTICULAR SITE.

HAVE NO LARGE ISSUES WITH THIS.

AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS WILL BE VETTED OUT WHEN WE SUBMIT THE FINAL SITE PLAN, UH, ONCE AND HOPEFULLY WE GET FINAL APPROVAL TO DEVELOP THE SITE.

DID ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE APPLICANT OKAY.

ALRIGHT, UH, FOR, WE CAN NOW HEAR FROM ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP.

I DON'T HAVE ANY SHEETS.

WAS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, THE COMMISSION ON THESE TWO APPLICATIONS? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSIONS.

WE'LL START MY LEFT.

MR. I REALLY

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I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA AND IT'S, UH, LONG OVERDUE.

I CONCUR WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER.

UM, I DO THE SAME.

WELL, HE WAS TALKING, THEY WERE SHOWING IT.

I THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS GONNA BE QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT.

SO, YES.

MM-HMM, BIG IMPROVEMENT.

YOU TURNED OFF, I TURNED IT OFF.

I'VE TURNED IT ON .

IT WORKS BOTH WAYS, SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT.

I DROVE UP THERE THE OTHER DAY AND MY CAR GOT LOST IN ONE OF THE POTHOLE.

YEAH, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE PARKING LOT FIXED.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IMPROVEMENT.

I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE GAS PUMPS.

UM, YOU GOT THREE GAS PUMPS IN 80 FEET, UM, AND WITH PEOPLE NOT PARKING EXACTLY CORRECTLY, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A STACK UP AND IT'S A 55 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, UH, ON DEMI BOULEVARD THERE.

SO I'M CONCERN ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC GETTING BACKED UP AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS GONNA BE EXTENDED BECAUSE THAT RIGHT TURN LANE NOW IS VERY SHORT.

UH, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

UH, WE WILL LOOK BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION, LOOK FORWARD TO NEWPORT NEWS RESIDENTS SUPPORTING NEW COUNTY BUSINESSES.

UH, I DID GO THERE THE OTHER DAY TO BUY SOME LOTTERY TICKETS.

I WAS DISAPPOINTED YOU DIDN'T SELL ME THE WINNING ONES .

UH, BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, THAT PARKING LOT WILL DEFINITELY BE REPAVED.

I MEAN, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME HELP.

SO LOOKING FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.

WINNING LOTTERY OF TICKETS.

I, I I AGREE.

UM, IT'S DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.

AND AS YOU INDICATED IT, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, OUR RETAIL, UH, TO GAIN SOME BENEFIT FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN BEHIND IT.

I, TOO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE SQUEEZING INTO THIS SMALL SPACE THAT IT, BUT IT APPEARS THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

UH, AND I YIELD TO THE SMARTER FOLKS THAN ME AND ADJUDICATING THAT.

SO, UH, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND I GUESS WE NEED TO DO ONE AT A TIME.

CORRECT.

SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE PC 24 7.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECOMMEND WE SEND PC 24 DASH SEVEN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THE MOTION BY MR. EZ IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 24 DASH SEVEN TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE A AUTOMOBILE FUEL DISPENSING ESTABLISHMENT AT 9 0 5 DEBY BOULEVARD.

I'LL MOVE PC TWENTY FOUR EIGHT.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION FOR PC 24 8.

THE MOTION BY MR. ROSSER IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 24 DASH EIGHT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE A MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE AT 9 0 5 DEBY BOULEVARD.

MR. SMITH? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO

[Application No. UP-1032-24, Wesley Tobin Johnson and Erin L Casey: This application is a request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 24.1-306 (category 1, no. 6) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, to authorize the establishment of a tourist home on a 2.3-acre parcel (GPIN-E20c-2375-2056) located at 103B Deer Path Road (Route 1611).The property is zoned RR (Rural Residential) and is designated Low Density Residential in the Comprehensive Plan.]

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, THIS WAS FOR WESLEY TOBIN.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINES A TOURIST HOME AS AN ESTABLISHMENT IN A PRIVATE DWELLING OR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN WHICH TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATIONS ARE PROVIDED, UH, TO OVERNIGHT TRANSIENT GUESTS FOR A FEE AND TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY AS OCCUPANCY OF AN ACCOMMODATION OF 90 DAYS OR LESS BY A VISITOR.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, THIS IS A APPLICATION FOR A TOURIST HOME IN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT 1 0 3 B DEER PATH ROAD.

THIS IS A 2.3 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED IN SCOW.

IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME LOCATED AT 1 0 3 B DEER PATH ROAD OFF OF SCOW ROAD.

UH, THIS IS A APPROXIMATELY 1600 SQUARE FOOT DWELLING, WHICH HAS TWO FLOORS, TWO STORIES WHERE THE OWNERS WILL RESIDE, AND A FULL WALKOUT BASEMENT WHERE THE, UH, THE RENTERS WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TAURUS WILL LIVE.

AS YOU CAN SEE BEHIND YOU, THE, YOU CAN SEE THE BASEMENT AT THE BACK OF

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THE, UH, PROPERTY.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE TWO FLOORS WHERE THE APPLICANTS WILL RESIDE.

THE STANDARDS REQUIRE THAT THE OWN THE OWNER TO RESIDE IN THE HOME SO THAT THEY CAN PROPERLY RESPOND TO AND RESOLVE PROBLEMS OR COMPLAINTS THAT ARISE WHILE RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE.

AND THEY FULFILL THAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE, UH, PARCEL, UH, THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS, AND ALL OF IT IS ADJACENT PROPERTY IS ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS NO FRONTAGE AS THE PROPER PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE BEHIND YOU.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE PERFORMANCE STANDARD FOR TAURUS HOME STATE, THE BOARD SHALL SPECIFY THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PERSONS WHO MAY BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, IN THE TAURUS HOME BASED ON THE DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE AREA, AS WELL AS THE SIZE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HOME.

APPLICANTS WISH TO MAKE THE BASEMENT AVAILABLE TO UP TO FIVE PERSONS, HOWEVER, ONLY FOUR ADULTS WOULD BE ALLOWED HERE.

UM, ON THE LEFT IS WHERE THE OWNERS WILL PARK, AND ON THE RIGHT IS WHERE THE GUEST PARKING WILL BE.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO SPACES.

IF THE OWNER RESIDES ON THE PROPERTY PLUS ONE PER SLEEPING ROOM, THE OWNER PROPOSES TO RENT TWO ROOMS, THEREFORE, A TOTAL OF FOUR SPACES ARE REQUIRED.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A TOTAL OF FIVE PARKING SPACES, THUS EXCEEDING THE REQUIREMENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SATELLITE PHOTO, THE HOUSE IS, IS ON A LARGE PLOT AND THEY'RE FAIRLY DISTANT FROM ONE ANOTHER.

UH, RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A SHARED DRIVEWAY THAT IS, UH, USED THAT ARE SHARED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE, UH, AND THE IN-LAW AND THEIR IN-LAWS.

UH, UM, AND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN PROPOSED REQUIRING A SHARED DRIVEWAY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.

THE APPLICANT HAS FULFILLED THIS A AGREE REQUIREMENT AND YOU WILL FIND A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE.

SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THE BLACK, UM, DOT IS THE STR, UH, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.

AND THE GREENS ARE, THE GREENS ONES ARE, UM, OPERATING TOURIST HOMES WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS OF THE PROPERTY.

ONE IS AT 3 2 1 OAK TREE ROAD AND IS 1.62 MILES AWAY.

AND THE OTHER IS AT 1 0 2 TOM THOMAS ROAD AND IS 1.66 MILES AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HOUSE IS NOT VERY VISIBLE TO THE STREET.

SO THERE WAS SIX LETTERS OF, UH, SUPPORT, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO PROCURE.

BUT THERE WAS ALSO A PETITION, UM, THAT WAS SIGNED AGAINST THE PROPOSAL.

IN THE RED, YOU WILL SEE, UH, THE RED, YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THE PROPOSAL AND THE GREEN IS PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION.

AND THE PURPLE IS ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED BOTH YES AND NO WHO WOULD'VE FOUGHT THAT .

THE BASEMENT HAS TWO BEDROOMS, A BATHROOM, A DINING AREA, A LIVING AREA, AND A KITCHENETTE.

THE BASEMENT HAS TWO BEDROOMS, ONE WITH A QUEEN BED AND ONE WITH TWO BUNK BEDS.

WHILE NO TRIP GENERATION DATA IS AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SIMILAR USES FOR WHICH THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ARE TIMESHARE UNITS, WHICH GENERATE AN AVERAGE OF 8.6 TRIPS PER DAY, AND 9.4 TRIPS PER DAY FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

A A TYPICAL, UM, ACCORDING TO 2021 V ESTIMATES, DEER PATH ROAD CARRIES APPROXIMATELY 150 VEHICLES PER DAY.

STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THE TOURIST HOME WOULD CREATE A NOTICEABLE TRAFFIC IMPACT.

SO IT WAS SOME PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

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THE APPLICANTS HAVE PROPOSED LENGTHS OF A MINIMUM OF TWO NIGHTS TO A MAXIMUM OF 14 NIGHTS UPON RECOMMENDATION FROM OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, A CONDITION THAT WOULD CAUSE THE TERM OF THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO BE EXTINGUISHED UPON THE TERMINATION OF OWNERSHIP, INTEREST OF EACH OF THE APPLICANTS, AND WILL NOT EXTEND TO ANY PARTY GAINING ANY FUTURE INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.

AS FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE AND INTENSITY OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TAURUS HOMES.

THE TAURUS HOME WOULD HAVE A NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR PC 24 11.

COME ON LEFT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

NO, NO.

OKAY, SIR.

OTHER THAN A COMMENT, HE DID A GOOD JOB.

VERY GOOD JOB.

OUR PROPERTY IS TO MAINTAIN AS LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE, UH, I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE, WESLEY JOHNSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS, COME ON FORWARD.

I REMIND YOU THAT, UH, TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THAT YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES.

UH, HELLO MR. AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

OH, HI.

THIS IS MY WIFE.

SHE'S HERE FOR SUPPORT.

UH, MY NAME'S WESLEY JOHNSON.

I LIVE AT 1 0 3 B DEER PATH ROAD.

UM, AND WE ARE HERE TO TRY TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.

WE, UH, HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SEVEN YEARS.

WE RENTED WAY DOWN ON THE END OF SKIM O AND THEN IN TWO, 2021, WE BUILT OUR OWN HOUSE.

AND BY BUILDING OUR OWN, LIKE WE LITERALLY PHYSICALLY BUILT OUR OWN HOUSE.

UM, SO IT WAS MY FATHER-IN-LAW.

MY SISTER-IN-LAW, WHO'S ABOUT THIS BIG, AND THEN MYSELF, WHO FRAMED THE ENTIRE HOUSE.

AND THEN THEY DID ALL OF THE ELECTRIC, ALL OF THE PLUMBING.

UM, WE ONLY HIRED A FEW TO DO DRYWALL 'CAUSE NOBODY LIKES DRYWALL.

UM, AND THEN THE ROOF AND THE SIDING.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE, SO WE LITERALLY BUILT THE, THE HOUSE WITH OUR OWN HANDS.

UM, I DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT THIS HOUSE IS MY FOREVER HOUSE.

UM, UH, HOPEFULLY SHE DOES TOO, .

UM, UM, SO WE LITERALLY PUT, UM, SO SINCE IT WAS, UH, BUILT DURING COVID, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RISE OF, OF, OF WOOD AND EVERYTHING, UM, WENT SKYROCKETING.

SO, UM, OUR MEASLY BUDGET THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD BUILD A HOUSE WITH SKYROCKETED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE LAND, IT'S A SLOPE.

SO IT WAS GONNA BE EITHER A VERY, VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, CONDITION CRAWL SPACE, OR WE THOUGHT MAYBE FOR A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY WE COULD, UH, BUILD A, UH, WALKOUT BASEMENT.

SO WE ENDED UP DOING THE WALKOUT BASEMENT WITH THE INCREASED COSTS OF COVID.

WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN, PERHAPS IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE, I DID SOME RESEARCH, WE COULD GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND RENT IT OUT TO AIRBNB.

NOW, UM, IF WE DO AIRBNB, NOT ONLY ARE WE OBVIOUSLY EVALUATED EVERY SINGLE, UH, CUSTOMER, BUT WE ALSO EVALUATE THEM.

SO I WAS TRYING TO TELL ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT STAY WITH US ARE GONNA BE VETTED.

UM, WE'RE VETTED.

SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, UH, MAINTAIN A, UM, A TIPTOP PROPERTY.

UM, HE EXPLAINED QUITE A, QUITE A, QUITE A BIT.

UM, WE'RE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SAYS THAT IT'S NOT ONLY OUR FULL-TIME HOME, BUT IT'S OUR ONLY HOME, SO WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO THEY WOULD BE STAYING IN THE BASEMENT.

WE WOULD BE, UM, RENTING OUT THE WHOLE TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT AS ONE UNIT.

WE ARE, WOULD NEVER SPLIT IT UP.

UM, WE WOULDN'T BE RENTING EVER IF WE'RE OUT OF TOWN 'CAUSE WE DO TAKE VACATION.

SO, UM, UH, REST ASSURED WE WOULD ONLY DO THAT.

UM, LET'S SEE WHERE, SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH MY NOTES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA POINT OUT IS THAT WILLIAMSBURG IS SUCH A DESTINATION AREA, IS THAT I WAS TALKING TO MY NEIGHBOR TODAY AND THEY WERE SAYING, DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE EVER GONNA BE AT YOUR HOUSE? AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA STAY THERE VERY OFTEN 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY A DESTINATION, UM, PLACE.

IT'S MORE OF JUST A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LAY THEIR HEADS DOWN AND ENJOY WILLIAMSBURG.

UM, THE WHOLE GOAL FOR OUR, UM,

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WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT OUR WHOLE FAMILY IS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUR FAMILY.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN THERE AND DISTURB OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND CAUSE, YOU KNOW, RUCKUS, UM, OR CHANGE THE ATMOSPHERE.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO OUR VERY, VERY BEST TO HAVE AS LITTLE IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN I WENT TO ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS, UM, THERE WERE SIX NEIGHBORS, FIVE OUTTA SIX I WENT TO BEFORE I EVEN TURNED THE APPLICATION IN.

AND FIVE OUTTA SIX HOUSES WERE COMPLETELY ON BOARD.

UM, ONCE I EXPLAINED TO THEM OUR VISION, THEY GAVE US THE BLESSING AND SIGNED THE PAPERS.

UM, SINCE, OOPS, SORRY.

SINCE THEN, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, UH, DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS OPINIONS GO.

UM, AM I MISSING ANYTHING, DO YOU THINK? UM, NO.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, MY, BOTH MY SISTERS LIVE THERE.

MY MOM LIVES THERE, MY AUNT LIVES THERE.

WE'RE VERY CONNECTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WE'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE, UM, 98.

UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME AS WELL.

UM, SOME 60 YEARS.

UM, I WAS GONNA POINT THAT OUT.

WE, WE ACTUALLY ARE, ARE BLESSED TO HAVE, UM, PHENOMENAL FAMILY AND GOOD FRIENDS.

UM, UH, MS. CAROLYN STEELE, SHE LIVES BEHIND ME.

SHE'S HERE TO, TO HELP US.

SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR 46 YEARS.

FRANCIS AND JERRY, JERRY ANETTE, WHO ALSO LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND US, THEY'RE HERE TO SUPPORT US.

UM, DIANA AND JEAN MCFARLAND, THEY'VE LIVED AT THE END OF SKIM O FOR 30 YEARS.

AND THEN MR. EIDS, HE WINS THE PRIZE.

HE'S BEEN IN SKIM O FOR 60 YEARS AND THEY'RE ALL HERE TO SUPPORT OUR, UM, OUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL.

SO, UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, SORRY, I WAS A LITTLE BUMBLY.

NO, IT WAS GREAT.

OH, THANK YOU.

I DID HAVE ONE.

I I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I'M GONNA, I CAME UP TO THE PROPERTY, UH, YESTERDAY AND I, BUT I COULDN'T SEE CLEARLY.

IS THERE A PAVED PATHWAY TO THE BACK OR HOW SO? AS OF NOW, NO.

UM, MY WIFE DIDN'T WANT TO TEAR UP OUR YARD BEFORE WE GOT APPROVED, SO I UNDERSTAND.

UM, A YEAH, I WAS LIKE, LET'S BUILD IT, LET'S DIG IT UP.

AND SHE GOES, WHY DON'T WE PUT THE BRAKES ON UNTIL WE GET APPROVED AND THEN WE CAN TEAR UP THE YARD? SMART MAN.

PUT MY STEPDAD.

SMART MAN.

SO, UM, YES SIR.

THE PLAN IS TO DO A, A, A SEPARATE, UH, RIGHT OFF AS YOU SAW, AND THEN NEXT TO THE HOUSE WILL BE TWO FULL PARKING LOT, UH, PAR PARKING SPACES FOR THEM TO BACK OUT.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO PAVERS FROM THAT AROUND THE CORNER.

THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR LUGGAGE AND EVERYTHING AND, AND, AND, AND DON'T SLIP OR FALL OR ANYTHING.

AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THEIR SEPARATE ENTRANCE WITH A LITTLE KEYPAD FOR A LOCK SO THEY CAN COME AND GO AS THEY, AS THEY PLEASE.

AND SO ANYWAY, OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? GREAT JOB.

GREAT JOB, .

OKAY, WELL NOW OPEN, UH, FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, UH, I HAVE A JOSEPH, UH, GER PER PERRICK.

MY PERSPECTIVE IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR, SIR, I NEED TO GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

JOSEPH BERGER, 1 0 6 DEER PATH ROAD.

WE ARE ON A STREET OF ONLY 16 FAMILIES, AND ON A TYPICAL DAY, THE ONLY PEOPLE DRIVING OR WALKING ON DEER PATH ROAD ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, OR AN OCCASIONAL DELIVERY DRIVER.

I ALSO, UH, MY WIFE AND I OWN THE LOT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES.

THE DRIVEWAY RUNS PARALLEL TO AND THEN GOES ACROSS THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY.

UM, I'LL JUST READ THIS OFF BECAUSE IT'LL BE EASIER THAN ME TRYING TO AD LIB.

UH, WE OWN, UH, 1 0 6 AND 1 0 5, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE 1 0 3 B, WHERE WESLEY TOBIN AND JOHNSON AND ERIC CASEY WANT TO OPERATE A TOURIST HOME, WHICH IS SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS A AIRBNB OR SHORT TO SHORT TERM RENTAL.

I AM AGAINST THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT THEY HAVE REQUESTED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THE PRESENCE OF A TOURIST HOME ON DEER PATH ROAD WOULD TAKE AWAY THE SENSE OF SECURITY AND PRIVACY THAT WE HAVE ENJOYED WHILE LIVING ON DEER PATH ROAD.

THIS HAS BEEN A HOME FOR MANY OF US FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

OUR STREET IS UNIQUE AND IS OFF OF SCOW ROAD, WHICH HAS NO THROUGH TRAFFIC AND DEER PATH ROAD, WHICH ENDS IN A CUL-DE-SAC.

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ANYONE WALKING AROUND IS EASILY RECOGNIZED A TOURIST HOME WITH CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF OUR STREET BY EXPOSING RESIDENTS OF DEER PATH ROAD TO THE PRESENCE OF STRANGERS THAT HAVE NO CONNECTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY FEEL A LOSS OF SAFETY.

THE PRESENCE OF A TOURIST HOME OR AN AIRBNB WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE DESIRABILITY AND THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY ON DEER PATH ROAD.

ARTICLES ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH AIRBNBS ARE CONSTANTLY IN THE NEWS.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYONE WANTING TO BUY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT HAS A TOURIST HOME OR AN AIRBNB OPERATING ON THE STREET OF THEIR POTENTIAL HOME.

A TOURIST HOME DOES NOT BELONG ON A RURAL RESIDENTIAL STREET LIKE DEER PATH ROAD.

THIS SPECIAL PERMIT IS OPPOSED BY THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ON DEER PATH ROAD, AS SHOWN BY THE SIGNATURES IN THE PETITION THAT I HAVE SUBMITTED TO THAT, THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, MANY OF THESE OPINIONS CHANGED AFTER THEY WERE ALLOWED TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF A TOURIST HOME AFTER MR. TOBIN TALKED TO HIM ORIGINALLY.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A CONFLICT THAT HE MENTIONED OF HOW THEY SIGNED ONE WAY AND THEN SIGNED THE LAST WAY.

YOU SEE THE DATE ON THE PETITION, YOU'LL SEE THAT WAS THE LAST OPINION THAT THESE PEOPLE HAD.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT I HAVE A, UH, IS IT LAURA? UH, MARK? YES.

ZERO IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND AGAIN, STATE YOUR NAME AND AN ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS LAURA MARK.

UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 4 WILSON DRIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG.

UM, YEAH, SO I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK INITIALLY AS, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF THIS WHOLE MESS.

AND SO , UH, I'D LIKE TO JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I'M, I'M THE MOTHER OF, UH, ERIN, AND, UM, MY SISTER LIVES HERE AND MY OTHER DAUGHTER LIVES HERE.

AND SO WE HAVE A VERY LARGE FAMILY COMPLEX.

UM, THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY FRIENDLY AND COOPERATIVE.

UM, TOBIN IS, IS EXTREMELY MODEST.

UM, HE ACTUALLY, UH, HAS WORKED AS A PARAMEDIC FOR MANY YEARS, AND HE'S FREQUENTLY CALLED ON TO HELP MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY.

UM, ERIN IS A NURSE PRACTITIONER.

SHE WORKS WITH THE VASCULAR SURGERY DEPARTMENT AT SENTARA, AND SHE'S ALSO BEEN IMMENSELY HELPFUL, TAKING CARE OF NEIGHBORS AND BEING RESPONSIVE.

SEVERAL OF THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE SITTING IN THE BACK ROW, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE FRIENDS AND IN VERY FREQUENT AND CONSTANT AND FRIENDLY AND COOPERATIVE CONTACT WITH THE FAMILIES.

UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE IN THE AREA, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND 1998, UM, I'M A RETIRED PSYCHIATRIST, SO I WORKED AT EASTERN STATE.

UM, I TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH SUPPORT AS I CAN TO OTHER ENDEAVORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING WHEN THERE WAS AN ASSISTED LIVING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

MY SISTER IS, UH, ALSO HERE ON THE BACK ROW.

WE MOVED OUR MOTHER DOWN FROM MARYLAND, UM, UH, GOSH, MAYBE EIGHT OR NINE YEARS AGO, AND SHE TOOK CARE OF HER IN HER HOME.

UM, MY HUSBAND'S MOTHER SUFFERED FROM DEMENTIA.

WE MOVED HER FROM CHARLOTTESVILLE INTO OUR HOME AND TOOK CARE OF HER FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.

TWO OF THOSE YEARS SHE SPENT LIVING IN SKIM LANDING, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, UM, AND WAS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AT THE TIME.

AND I PRESENTED SUPPORT FOR THAT, UH, HOME AND BUSINESS, UH, BEING IN THE AREA AS WELL.

UM, THERE WAS A, UH, FARM, UM, ON ONE OF MY DAUGHTER'S PROPERTY.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AGRICULTURE, UH, FARM, UM, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM JOE, UH, WITH MULTIPLE VEHICLES, MULTIPLE FARM HANDS COMING IN AND OUT.

UM, IT MADE

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UM, THEY PROVIDED FOOD FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET DOWN IN WILLIAMSBURG AND FOR, UM, OTHER, UM, OTHER FUNCTIONS AROUND TOWN.

SO HOW THIS WHOLE SITUATION WITH THE AIRBNB EVOLVED WAS THAT AS TO, AS TOBIN EXPLAINED INITIALLY, THERE WAS, UH, A, AN EXPENSE WHICH WENT WAY BEYOND THE INITIAL EXPENSE OF THE HOUSE.

THEY PUT THE BASEMENT IN AND, UM, IN ORDER TO, YOU CAN WRAP IT UP FOR US, SOME OF THE EXPENSE.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SUPPORT FOR THE, UH, PROJECT AND MENTION HOW MANY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS REALLY ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS WELL.

YEP.

NEXT I HAVE, UH, NATHANIEL, UH, FROCK.

MARK.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M NATE FROCK MORTON.

I LIVE AT, UH, 1 0 3 DEER PATH ROAD, WHICH IS THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR OF THE APPLICANT'S HOME.

UH, SO I WILL, IN FACT, UH, MY FAMILY AND I, I'M A HUSBAND AND FATHER OF TWO, TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, UH, WILL BE THE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS, UH, TOURIST HOME.

UM, AND, UH, WE SHARE A DRIVEWAY WITH 1 0 3 B.

THE DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ON THE RIGHT WHEN YOU TURN INTO DEER PATH ROAD.

SO IT DOESN'T GO IN FRONT OF, UH, THE JOE BURGER'S HOME OR, UM, AND BE'S HOME THAT HAS SIGNED, UH, THE PETITION, I BELIEVE PEOPLE TURN IMMEDIATELY RIGHT ONTO OUR DRIVEWAY AND PASS OUR HOME FIRST, AND THEN ARRIVE AT 1 0 3 B.

SO WE WILL BE MOST IMPACTED BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DRIVE IN FRONT OF OUR, OUR HOUSE.

UM, MY WIFE AND I ARE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THIS.

FULL DISCLOSURE, WE ARE, I'M THE IN-LAWS OF, UH, TOBIN AND AARON.

UM, AND, UM, WE ARE SUPPORTERS OF AIRBNB.

I'VE USED AIRBNB 11 TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR TO BOOK RESERVATIONS.

UM, THAT'S AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE YOU GET, UH, TO LIVE IN THESE UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A LITTLE BIT AND SEE THE AREA AND, UH, HA HAVE A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND MEET THE OWNERS SOMETIMES AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND GET OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOOD TO DO LOCALLY.

UM, WE ARE VETTED AS AIRBNB CUSTOMERS.

UH, WE, WE GET A RATING WE'RE RATED WHEN WE, UH, RESERVE THESE.

UM, AND THE OWNERS HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO, UH, HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES IN GOOD CONDITION, UM, TO ATTRACT, UH, MORE RESERVATIONS.

UH, I ACTUALLY THINK THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AGREEMENT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUE.

UM, THEY ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB RENOVATING THEIR BASEMENT, ADDING AMENITIES, IMPROVING THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME.

UM, AND I THINK IT IMPROVES THE MARKET VALUE.

AND IF THEIR PROPERTY VALUE GOES UP, OURS GOES UP AS WELL.

I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN LONG-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE AIRBNB DOES HAVE A VETTING SYSTEM.

YOU GET RATED AND, UM, YOU WANT GOOD PEOPLE TO MAKE RESERVATIONS AT YOUR AIRBNB.

UM, I FULLY TRUST AARON AND TOBIN TO BE, UH, THERE WHEN, UH, IN THEIR HOME AT, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE, UM, UH, UH, TENANTS.

TEMPORARY TENANTS ARE THERE, UH, TO MEET ANY NEEDS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

SO THERE WILL BE SUPERVISION.

THEY WON'T BE UN UNSUPERVISED AT ANY TIME.

UM, FURTHERMORE, IF, IF FOR SOME REASON AARON AND TOBIN NEEDED TO DEPART TEMPORARILY FROM THEIR HOME, MY WIFE AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO, UM, REDRESS ANY NEEDS IN THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

SO, UH, MY WIFE HELPED BUILD THEIR HOME.

UM, I WAS THERE EVERY WEEK LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS.

UH, WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THE HOMES THAT WE BUILT.

WE BUILT OUR HOME AT 1 0 3 DEER PATH.

WE HELPED OUR IN-LAWS BUILD THEIR HOME AT 1 0 3 B DEER PATH.

UH, THE FAMILY IS HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AND WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE, WE'RE ON CALL.

SO, UH, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANKS FOR LISTENING.

APPRECIATE IT.

HEY, THAT'S THE, UH, ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP, WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE, UM, THAT WANTED TO COME FORWARD TO ADDRESS THIS APPLICANT? OKAY.

UH, HAVING HEARD NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION.

SO I, I LIVE JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM YOU ON, UH, BARLOW ROAD.

I'M JEALOUS OF YOUR PAVING JOB, .

UM, AND, UH, BUT I, I, I SUPPORT THIS.

I I WAS OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY AND, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD FIT.

I, I LIKE IT WHEN THESE HOMES ARE KIND OF ISOLATED AND OFF TO THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY, MARY, I JUST SAY THAT TO HAVE THIS MANY NEIGHBORS AND THIS MUCH FAMILY TO SUPPORT YOU AND BACK YOU UP, I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES.

I, I FIGHT OVER,

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AND THIS RIGHT HERE, CERTAINLY, UM, I, I DON'T SEE IT IMPACTING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

AND I DO HEAR THE NEIGHBOR THAT IS, IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T RECALL OF ALL THE HOMES THAT WE'VE APPROVED EVER HAVING ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT 'EM.

SO I, I THINK THAT HOLDS A, UM, SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR IT TOO.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN AN APPLICATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS AND RELATIVES THAT LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED USE, AND THEY'RE ALL IN SUPPORT OF IT, , AND THEY GET ALONG, RIGHT? AND THEY APPEAR TO GET ALONG.

THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE EVERY WEEKEND, .

SO YOU, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU GOT A, A LARGE FAMILY PRESENCE THAT'S GONNA SUPPORT THIS AND KEEP IT, UH, UM, WELL MAINTAINED, MANAGED, AND ENSURING THAT IT'LL FIT INTO THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING TO LOSE HERE IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT, UH, CONCERNS.

I REMEMBER A FEW APPLICATIONS OF TOURIST HOMES, UH, WE HAD BEFORE WHEN SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT STRANGERS COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I REMEMBER THE APPLICANT NOTED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE PLUMBER IS, THE ELECTRICIAN, RIGHT? THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT COME TO, UH, HELP CLEAN YOUR POOL, DO WHATEVER.

SO, UH, THOSE THINGS OCCUR FREQUENTLY THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I'M NOT IN INSINUATING THAT IT'S OKAY TO HAVE STRANGERS IN A NICE PLACE LIKE THIS, BUT THIS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

I, I, I CAN'T OVERLOOK THAT I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING IT.

I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

I JUST LIKE THE WAY MICHAEL HEAR, LIKE MICHAEL SPEAKS, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN, I CAN NOD LIKE THIS, RIGHT? .

THANKS MR. HAM.

ANYTHING? NO, THANK YOU.

UH, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH WHAT, WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID.

I, I HAD MY CONCERNS INITIALLY AND I DROVE OUT TO SEE THE PROPERTY, UH, AS MANY OF YOU HAVE, AND I AGREE, I THINK THE LOCATION IS CRIME, UH, FOR IT BEING OFF THE MAIN DRAG.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT, THAT YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF PRESENTING THIS.

UH, AND AS, AS WE SAID, THE SUPPORT IS PHENOMENAL AND I NOT, NOT TO NOT RECOGNIZE THOSE, UH, AND DISAGREEMENT WITH IT.

UH, WE'VE GIVEN YOU.

UH, I THINK THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE TONIGHT HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR US.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WANNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECOMMEND WE MOVE PC 24 DASH 11 TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THE MOTION BY MR. KING IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 24 DASH 11 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A TOURIST HOME AT 1 0 3 B DEER PATH ROAD.

MOVE TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

[Application No. UP-1033-24, Second Amendment Solutions LLC: Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 24.1-283 (b) (1) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, to authorize the establishment of a firearms sales, gunsmithing, and service as a home occupation with on-site customer/client contact, on a .3-acre parcel (GPIN G13b2848-3895) located at 1214 Wilkins Drive (Route 720). The property is zoned R13 (High-Density Single-Family Residential) and is designated High-Density Single-Family Residential in the Comprehensive Plan.]

UH, OVER TO THE STAFF.

WE WILL GIVE Y'ALL A COUPLE OF MOMENTS TO CLEAR OUT BEFORE WE START THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND FOR SPEAKING.

THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED ON WILKINS DRIVE IN THE YORK TERRACE SUBDIVISION.

WANNA GO AHEAD AND, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTION 24.1 DASH 28 2 83 OF THE YORK COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A FIREARM SALES AND GUNSMITHING BUSINESS AS A HOME OCCUPATION WITH ONSITE CUSTOMER AND CLIENT CONTACT LOCATED AT 1214 WILKINS DRIVE.

IT IS ZONED R 13 FOR HIGH DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND DESIGNATED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE 0.3 ACRE PARCEL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH SOUTHEASTERN WEST ARE ZONED R 13 FOR HIGH DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, MEASURING 112 BY 10 FEET.

AND TO THE BACK IS THE SUBJECT, UH, DETACHED GARAGE.

CUSTOMER ACCESS TO THE HOME OCCUPATION WOULD BE, UM, ON THE, THERE'S THE GARAGE DOOR AND THERE'S ALSO A DOOR TO THE LEFT, TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE DETACHED GARAGE.

UH, MR. SPASO HAS ALSO SHOWED ME TONIGHT A, UM, COUPLE OF PICTURES OF A FENCE THAT HE BUILT.

SO THE DETACHED GARAGE WILL NOT BE SEEN ON THE, UM, ON WILKINS DRIVE.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE GARAGE INSIDE THE PROPOSED GUNSMITHING HOME OCCUPATION WOULD INCLUDE THE DESIGNING, MAKING, AND REPAIRING OF FIREARMS. MR. SPASO ALSO PROPOSES TO HAVE LIMITED GUNS AND AMMUNITION SALE.

THIS USE WOULD BE LOCATED IN AN AREA OF THE DETACHED GARAGE, WHICH WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR OFFICE AND CUSTOMER CONTACT AS WELL.

STAFF IS PROPOSING CONDITIONS PROHIBITING THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO SECURELY STORE CUSTOMER'S FIREARMS WHEN THEY ARE NOT BEING WORKED ON ALL WEAPONS WILL BE KEPT IN LOCKED IN GUN SAFES.

MR. SPASO HAS TWO LIBERTY LINCOLN GUN SAFES FOR THIS PURPOSE AND THEY ARE BOLTED TO THE SIX INCH THICK CONCRETE FLOOR WITH HALF INCH DIAMETER BOLTS.

THIS IS THE SECOND GUN SAFE.

MR. SPASO INTENDS TO INSTALL ENVIRONMENTAL MONITOR MONITORING SYSTEMS IN BOTH OF THE SAFES AS WELL AS AMBIENT SENSORS TO INCLUDE TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY MONITORING.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE GARAGE DOOR.

THE GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED OF EIGHT INCH THICK CONCRETE BLOCKS, REINFORCED WITH REBAR AND ADDITIONAL CONCRETE AND HAS NO WINDOWS.

A HEAVY STEEL SECURITY DOOR IS TO THE WEST OF THE DETACHED GARAGE AND A THREE INCH THICK REINFORCED GARAGE DOOR ARE THE ONLY TWO ENTRIES AND EXITS TO THE BUILDING.

THIS BLACK BOX THAT YOU SEE HERE, HOUSES TWO NETWORK SWITCHES, A WIRELESS ROUTER FOR GUEST INTERNET USE, AND THE APPLICANT'S PHONE ROUTER FROM BOX FROM COX CABLE.

THERE IS ALSO AN HDMI CABLE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO VIEW HIS CAMERA SYSTEM FROM HIS DESK IN HIS HOUSE.

THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE HIS PRIMARY PHONE IN THE GARAGE AS WELL AS A HIGH SPEED INTERNET FOR HIS BUSINESS COMPUTER AND GUEST WIFI AVAILABLE TO CUSTOMERS.

ACCORDING TO THE SKETCH PLAN SUBMITTED BY MR. SPA, THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION WOULD INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 315 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AREA WITHIN THE DETACHED GARAGE.

MR. SPASO HAS DIVIDED THE 315 SQUARE FEET IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE GARAGE.

AS YOU SEE HERE, 150 SQUARE FEET WILL BE A WORK AREA, UH, TO THE LEFT.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A BENCH OF 36 SQUARE FEET AND TO THE NORTH OF THE DETACHED GARAGE WILL BE 128 SQUARE FEET FOR A DESK ZONING.

24.1 DASH 2 81 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SPECIFIES A SERIES OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO HOME OCCUPATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS.

HOME OCCUPATIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO OCCUPY MORE THAN 25% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF A RESIDENCE OR 400 SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS, UNLESS THE BOARD AUTHORIZES A GREATER FLOOR AREA IN CONJUNCTION WITH A USE PERMIT APPLICATION.

ACCORDING TO COUNTY ASSESSOR'S RECORDS, THE HOME HAS APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA.

THE 315 SQUARE FEET OF THE FLOOR AREA OCCUPIED BY THE DETACHED GARAGE PROPOSED FOR THE HOME OCCUPATION WOULD CONSTITUTE APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THE HOME'S TOTAL AREA

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OFF STREET PARKING MUST BE PROVIDED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE HOME OCCUPATION.

THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

BESIDE THE HOUSE LEADING TO THE DE DETACHED GARAGE, THE PROPERTY HAS A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY MEASURING 112 BY 10 FEET THAT CAN PARK AT LEAST FOUR VEHICLES, ONE BEHIND ANOTHER.

UH, THE PARKING AREA DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE DETACHED GARAGE MEASURES 20 BY 26 AND CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE AT THE SAME TIME.

AS SUCH, THE PROPERTY CAN ACCOMMODATE THE TWO REQUIRED RESIDENTIAL SPACES PLUS TWO ADDITIONAL SPACE SPACES FOR CLIENT'S VEHICLES.

THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT HE WOULD WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AND WOULD BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY WITH NO MORE THAN ONE CUSTOMER AT A TIME.

TO ALLOW MONITORING OF COMPLIANCE WITH ONE CUSTOMER AT A TIME LIMIT.

THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT'S APPOINTMENT BOOK TO BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW BY THE ZONING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF UPON REQUEST.

AND THIS IS NOT TO REVIEW OR COLLECT INFORMATION AS TO CUSTOMER IDENTITIES, THE TYPE OF FIREARM OR THE AMOUNT OF ANY BUSINESS TRANSACTION.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS HOME OCCUPATIONS TO HAVE THREE FREESTANDING SIGNS UP TO THREE.

UH, HAVE ONE FREESTANDING SIGN UP TO THREE SQUARE FEET IN AREA AND THREE INCHES IN HEIGHT.

UH, THREE FEET IN HEIGHT.

A CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION TO PROHIBIT SIGNAGE FOR THE PROPOSED USE, AND THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO STATED THAT HE HAS NO DESIRE FOR A SIGN.

AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PAST, UM, HOME OCCUPATIONS, THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, UH, THE ONES THAT HAVE ASTERISKS ARE ONES THAT ARE INACTIVE.

ACCORDING TO THE ZONING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS RELATED TO ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS, UH, ALSO HAS HAD NO COMPLAINTS REGARDING ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER APPROVED HOME OCCUPATIONS THAT INVOLVED CUSTOMER CONTACT AND IT IS NOT EXPECTED TO HAVE ANY ADVERSE IN IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.

PARKING WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND GRAVEL AREA.

THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THE RESIDENCE.

SORRY.

UH, TYPICALLY SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE TIED TO THE PROPERTY AND NOT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HOWEVER, AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE MAY BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.

UH, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE A SENSITIVE ISSUE, AND PEOPLE'S REACTIONS TO PROPOSED USES ARE OFTEN INFLUENCED BY THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE APPLICANT.

THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS ARE SUFFICIENT TO ENSURE THAT PROPOSED USE REMAINS A SMALL SCALE OPERATION CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE HOME OCCUPATION PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION FORWARD THIS APPLICATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 24 DASH 12.

AND IN YOUR PACKAGE THERE IS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO US TODAY AROUND 12 UH, PM FROM A AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, HE IS AGAINST IT AND THE EMAIL IS IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ IT.

IT IS, UM, YEAH, SO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT, MR. SPASO, IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS FOR THE STAFF? NO.

I RECENTLY RETIRED, SO I ESSENTIALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO.

UH, SEE THAT THE APPLICANT THANK YOU, UH, IS HERE.

I CAN OPEN IT UP PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AND AGAIN, REMIND YOU TO, UH, PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS EDWIN SPA.

I RESIDE AT 1214 WILKINS DRIVE.

I HAVE, UH, LIVED IN THE HOME FOR OVER 40 YEARS NOW.

UM,

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UM, OKAY, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ON MYSELF.

I JOINED THE UNITED STATES MILITARY WHEN I WAS 17 YEARS OLD.

IT'S WHEN I PICKED UP MY FIRST FIREARM AND REALIZED I WAS REALLY GOOD WITH IT.

UM, I'VE NEVER HAD A, HAD A NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE.

I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH, UH, ANY PROBLEMS WITH FIREARMS. I'VE ALWAYS OWNED FIREARMS SINCE I GOT OUTTA THE MILITARY AND HAVE HAD NO ISSUES.

UM, IT'S BEEN A PASSION OF MINE.

UH, BUILDING THE AR 15 PLATFORM IS SOMETHING I VERY MUCH ENJOY AND I'M PRETTY GOOD AT IT.

UH, I'M ABLE TO GET MULTIPLE CALIBERS WORKED INTO THE AR 15 PLATFORM WHERE NOT MANY PEOPLE REALLY DO THAT, UH, THAT I KNOW OF.

I'M SURE YOU CAN MAIL ORDER THAT STUFF IF YOU HAVE TO.

UM, ON MY, MY HOME, IT'S VERY WELL SECURED.

THERE ARE NO WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE, WHICH IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS KEPT.

EVERYTHING IS BOLTED DOWN.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT OUT UNLESS YOU REALLY BRING A D NINE DOZER OR SOMETHING TO THE TASK.

UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE, I'LL HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANYBODY ENCROACHING ON THE PROPERTY.

I'M PUTTING IN EIGHT CAMERA DVR SYSTEM IN FOR 24 7 MONITORING.

THAT'S SIX CAMERAS OUTDOORS AND TWO INSIDE.

SO ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS WILL BE RECORDED FOR FUTURE USE IF NECESSARY.

UM, I JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED PART OF MY, UH, MY OTHER PROJECT, WHICH IS TO PUT A FENCE UP IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE PICTURES, I CAN PASS 'EM OFF TO YOU.

JERRY CAN BRING 'EM DOWN, PASS 'EM THROUGH.

GOT THAT DONE IN SHORT ORDER.

WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES PRIOR WAS THE CONSTRUCTION AREA.

UH, NOW IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT NICER AND MY INTENT WAS TO BLOCK THE VIEW FROM THE STREET OF THE GARAGE AND THE SIDE YARD, WHICH I STILL HAVE A CONTINUATION TO DO DOWN THE SIDE YARD, BUT I INTEND TO GET THAT DONE DURING THE SUMMERTIME.

UH, UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN ADD IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

NO, GO AHEAD, SIR.

I GOTTA ASK THIS QUESTION.

SURE.

WITH A NAME LIKE SPA, YOU GOTTA HAVE A GOOD GERMAN RECIPE, ? I AM.

I AM GERMAN.

UH, FROM, FROM MY, UH, MY FATHER'S SIDE, BUT ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE SPA, SO THAT'S, I LOOKED AT THAT NAME AND I, I THOUGHT HE CERTAINLY HAS TO HAVE A GOOD RECIPE FOR SPA.

NO, I DO LIKE GERMAN BEER.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DIGRESS.

ANYBODY ELSE? UH, I NOTICED THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO DO, UH, AMMO SALES.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I'M NOT GONNA MANUFACTURE AMMUNITION.

IT'LL BE PRE-MADE AMMUNITION ONLY.

AND I NOTICED YOUR, UM, CAMERA SYSTEM, IS THERE AN ALARM SYSTEM ON THIS BUILDING? UH, NOT YET.

THERE WILL BE.

SO THAT, THAT IS ONE OF YOUR THINGS.

AND I, THE, THE ONLY REAL CONCERN THAT I HAD, I WAS BY YOUR PROPERTY THE OTHER DAY AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE DETOURS TO GET AROUND TO WHERE YOU WERE.

, SORRY.

UH, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS THE DENSITY, UH, OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROXIMITY OF HOW CLOSE THE HOUSES ARE TOGETHER.

UH, AND DID, DO YOU, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH NEIGHBORS? I DIDN'T SEE ANY FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS.

I HAVE RECEIVED NO FEEDBACK, NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM ANY NEIGHBORS AT THIS POINT? NO.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, YOU DID HAVE, WE HAVE THE ONE FROM RIGHT? 12.

12.

CORRECT.

I'M NOT AWARE OF WHO THAT MIGHT BE.

I DON'T THINK HE LIVES THERE, BUT, OH, HE'S, HE'S THE OWNER OF THE HOME.

UNDERSTOOD.

THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THAT HOUSE ARE VERY FRIENDLY TO ME, ACTUALLY, .

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

DO WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PC 24 DASH 12 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL

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CALL PLEASE.

THE MOTION BY MR. EZ TO, TO ADOPT PC 24 DASH 12 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION TO AUTHORIZE FIREARM SALES, GUNSMITHING AND SERVICE AT 1214 WILKINS DRIVE.

MR. KING? YES.

MR. CRIER? YES.

MR. WASSER? YES.

I DO FIND IT INTERESTING THAT PEOPLE COME OUT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL.

THEY DON'T COME OUT FOR, FOR GUNS OR FOR NOTED OTHER HOME OCCUPANCY.

SO WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR, UH, OLD BUSINESS.

DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO, SIR.

NEW BUSINESS? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEW BUSINESS? NO, SIR.

ANY

[8. New Business]

I, I HAVE NO ONE, ONE COMMENT OR QUESTION.

UM, I GOT A PHONE CALL WITHIN LIKE TWO MINUTES OF THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BEING POSTED ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS AN ISSUE, BUT IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE, WE GET THE PACKAGE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO EX GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO HAVE TO HAVE A REVIEW OR GET IT TO US A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN WHAT IT COMES NOW? 'CAUSE ONCE IT GETS POSTED AND GETS OUT TO THE PUBLIC, THEY SEE IT, ACTUALLY SEE IT BEFORE I DID.

AND THEY'RE CALLING AND ASKING QUESTIONS ON IT AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA YET.

AND SO THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, IF ANY, HAS ANY OTHER MEMBERS HAD.

I SEE IT ON, ON THE WEBSITE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE, BUT ROUGHLY LONG, AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE I EVER GET THE HARD COPY.

I DON'T GET THE HARD COPY UNTIL I YESTERDAY , SAME HERE FOR ME.

UH, TIM WOULD, UH, EMAIL US SAYING, WHEN, TELL US WHEN IT WAS ON THE WEBSITE AND BEEN POSTED, AND I WOULD READ IT THERE.

AND YES, WE DO.

UH, EARL WE DO GET THE PACKAGE KIND OF LATE.

UH, PROBABLY NOT YOUR FAULT.

IT COULD BE THE MAIL, MAIL SYSTEM.

BUT, UH, I READ MINE ONLINE, UH, WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN, UH, I SEE IT'S BEEN POSTED, SO I'M HAPPY.

TRY THAT.

YEAH, I'M HAPPY WITH ONLINE.

I I LOOK AT IT ONLINE.

I JUST WOULD, IT'D BE NICE TO GET SOME KIND OF HEADS UP THAT IT'S GOING TO GET POSTED TODAY SO THAT WE KNEW THAT EVEN JUST AN EMAIL TO US SAYING IT'S, IT'S GOING UP.

SO YOU YEAH.

YOU SHOULD KNOW IT'S THERE.

THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.

I, YES.

WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE FROM NOW ON ONCE IT'S USUALLY POSTED SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING.

UM, SO BEFORE WE POST IT ON THE, BEFORE WE SEND OUR SUBSCRIPTION NOTICE OUT TO EVERYONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND YOU AN EMAIL SO YOU HAVE IT AT LEAST BEFORE WE SEND THE SUBSCRIPTION NOTICE.

UM, BUT, UH, MR. TITUS IS CORRECT, WE USUALLY POST ALL THE MATERIALS, NOT MINUS THE MEMOS AND RESOLUTIONS, BUT LIKE THE INFORMATION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS GIVEN US, UM, ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING.

SO WE KEEP THIS AGENDA UP THERE FOR TWO WEEKS APPROXIMATELY, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT CHANGES OVER TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

UM, SO WE DO TRY TO POST IT UP EARLY AND UM, WHAT I CAN DO IS WE CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL WHEN WE POST THAT MATERIALS UP SO YOU CAN AT LEAST SEE THE MATERIALS AHEAD OF TIME.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU BEFORE WE SEND THE SUBSCRIPTION NOTICE OUT TO ALL THE SUBSCRIBERS.

THAT WAY YOU AT LEAST HAVE A HEADS UP.

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

ALRIGHT, SO YOU ALL HAVE YOUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT AND I'LL, UM, JUST, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP.

STAFF REPORT.

[9. Staff Reports/Recent Actions by the Board of Supervisors]

SO, UH, THE TOP ITEM THERE ON SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH WAS ZT 1 94 22, UH, STAFF HAS BEEN MEETING WITH THE BOARD DURING THEIR WORK SESSIONS THE LAST TWO MONTHS TO KIND OF GO OVER CHANGES THAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

UM, IF YOU'RE VERY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT DISCUSSION, THE LAST WORK SESSION IS ONLINE AND I WOULD SAY, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, THEY HAVE REQUESTED, UM, THINGS LIKE, UM, NO SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN A HALF MILE AND A QUARTER MILE OF EACH OTHER MILE.

AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS LIKE FOR RF SEVEN 50 FEET.

YEAH, THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH EMAIL DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT WAS ONE PIECE.

UM, THEY'VE, UH, UH, ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT YES, THEY DO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, AND SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION AND THEY'VE GIVEN US SOME GOOD DIRECTION.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU, UH, WITH CHANGES.

UH, IF NOT, IF I THINK IT WAS JUNE IS WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK WE MIGHT'VE SAID MAY, BUT YEAH.

UM, MAY, MAY WE'LL BE GETTING IT SOON.

, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, FOR SOMEONE STAFF TO SUMMARIZE WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH

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RELATION THAT WOULD AFFECT US? THAT MIGHT MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE WITH US? YES.

I MEAN, WHEN WE BRING IT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU BECAUSE IT, THEY'RE, THE CHANGES ARE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, SO WE DON'T WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU.

THE PLANNING MISSION APPROVED IT IN 20 20, 22, BUT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE, WE WANNA BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

SO YES, YOU'LL GET A MEMO AND, AND THE CHANGES AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IS THERE ANY CHANGES THAT THE BOARD MADE THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE SENATE BILL THAT'S ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK? WELL, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER DISCUSSION , BECAUSE IF THAT BILL IS PASSED, I MEAN, IF, IF A GO, IT'S GONE BACK TO THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE THAT THEY, THAT THEY PASS IT THE WAY IT IS.

UM, I THINK, AND I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR SHERRY, BUT I THINK THE ADVICE HAS BEEN THAT WE, WE WOULD NOT MAKE CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT WE WOULD CREATE A POLICY DOCUMENT THAT WOULD GO TO THE BOARD WITH THESE CHANGES SO THAT IT'S KIND OF IN ENTHRONED ENSHRINED TO SHOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD ARE, IS GOING TO CONSIDER WITH YOUR APPLICATION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT WOULD BE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD, WOULD APPROVE.

SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ROUTES THAT WE CAN GO DEPENDENT ON, UM, HOW SB 5 44 GETS MOVED THROUGH THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

UM, BUT YES, WE, YOU WILL GET A SUMMARY AND WE'LL DO A MEMO JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH ANY OTHER ONES.

YEP.

UM, THE APPLICATIONS THAT'LL GO TO THE BOARD THIS MONTH ON THE 16TH, UM, INCLUDE THE DONALD THERESA NEWMAN APPLICA NEWSOM APPLICATION, WHICH IS SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT'S BEEN ON HOLD.

UM, YOU ALL APPROVED IT IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.

AND SO THE BOARD HAS TO ACT AT IT, ACT ON IT AT THEIR APRIL 16TH MEETING TO MEET THE DEADLINE.

UM, THERE'S GONNA AUTOMOTIVE THE TENTING USE, THE SWAG TINTING USE WILL GO TO THEM ALONG WITH THE TWO YVA APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ON THAT YOU ALL REVIEWED LAST MONTH.

AND AS FAR AS FUTURE APPLICATIONS, UH, YOU DO HAVE, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE IS THE, UM, DOWN THE MIDDLE APPLICATION YVA 55, 24.

IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

IT'S HERE IN THE YORKTOWN AREA.

IT'S ON THE AMBLER STREET SIDE OF YORKTOWN.

SO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ROUTE 17, UM, AMBLER STREET SITS OVER THERE.

SO IT'S OFF OF AMBLER STREET.

UM, SITE PLANS HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, UH, RECENTLY APPROVED, UH, NELSON'S GRANT, WHICH IS THERE AT FORT EUSTIS IN 17, THEY'RE GONNA PUT UP THEIR FINAL BUILDING, BUILDING NUMBER EIGHT, UM, DUNKING DONUTS DOWN BY RICH ROAD, DOWN BY THE WALMART.

UM, ON 17, THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT A DUNKING DONUTS THERE, UH, APPROVAL WITHIN THE VICTORY INDUSTRIAL PARK TO ADD ANOTHER BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN OTHER ONES INCLUDE LIKE THE HARPER STATION, WHICH IS THE, UM, ASSISTED INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY THERE OFF OF VICTORY BOULEVARD.

UH, SOME, SOME LANDSCAPING AMENDMENTS THERE ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE.

UM, OTHER ONES THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED IS LIKE THE PANDA EXPRESS, WHICH WAS UP ON, UP IN THE LIGHTFOOT UP IN ON MOTOWN ROAD.

UM, THAT, THAT SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED ALONG WITH THE TOMMY EXPRESS CAR WASH, UM, WHICH IS THERE, THE, THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE OTHER ONE IN FRONT OF KROGER .

SO YOU HAVE THE TWO CAR WASHES RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

UM, AND THEN OTHER, UH, IS THE AUTO HOUSE CAR DEALERSHIP, WHICH IS UP OFF OF, UM, ALSO OFF OF MOTOWN ROAD.

AND THEY'VE RESUBMITTED THEIR PLAN.

SO A LOT OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, UH, THAT JUST, THAT COVERS MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE INFORMATION THERE.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD JUST MENTION IS, UH, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED, UM, A ZONING AMENDMENT, ZONING AMENDMENTS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO STAFF IS WORKING, UM, TO TRY TO BRING SOME OF THOSE FORWARD.

UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THE SHORT TERM RENTALS NOW.

UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON THE HOME OCCUPATIONS.

MR. TITUS CHAIRED THAT, UM, CITIZEN COMMITTEE TWO YEARS, HOPEFULLY BE TAKING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR SOME CONSIDERATION.