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ALL RIGHT.[Call to Order]
WELCOME TO THE MARCH 19TH, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING.UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY, IF YOU HAVE A MOBILE DEVICE, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT'S SILENCED BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
UH, WITH THAT, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. HORO? HERE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
I LATE STALL TONIGHT WITH IDENTIFICATION, AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR, FROM THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION, UM, THIS NIGHT WHERE? NICOLE, WHERE'S, OH, HEY.
LOOKING RIGHT PAST YOU, GRACIOUS, ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR SOVEREIGNTY AND SEEKING THOSE WE SERVE, UH, UH, SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE GRANTS US WISDOM AS WE DELIBERATE ON MATTERS THAT AFFECT THE LIVES OF THOSE WE SERVE.
MAY OUR DECISIONS BE JUST AND FAIR, REFLECTING YOUR LOVE AND COMPASSION FOR ALL PEOPLE.
BLESS EACH MEMBER OF THIS BOARD WITH DISCERNMENT AND UNDERSTANDING.
HELP US TO LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO ONE ANOTHER, TO SPEAK WITH HONESTY AND RESPECT, AND TO WORK TOGETHER HARMONIOUSLY FOR THE COMMON GOOD.
WE ASK FOR YOUR STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO FACE THE CHALLENGES AHEAD, KNOWING THAT WITH YOU, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
MAY YOUR GRACE ABOUND IN OUR MIDST, UNITING US IN PURPOSE AND FOSTERING PEACE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE LIFT UP TO YOU THOSE IN NEED, ESPECIALLY THE VULNERABLE AND MARGINALIZED AMONG US.
MAY OUR ACTIONS AND POLICIES REFLECT YOUR HEART FOR JUSTICE AND MERCY.
AS WE PROCEED WITH THIS MEETING, MAY YOUR PRESENCE BE FELT IN OUR MIDST, GUIDING OUR THOUGHTS, WORDS, AND ACTIONS.
MAY EVERYTHING WE DO HERE TODAY, BRING HONOR AND GLORY TO YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOLY AND PRECIOUS NAME WE PRAY.
I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UM, OUR, THE YORK, YOUR YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS HERE ON THE, ON THE FIRST TWO ROW.
UH, MR. THOMAS WILL BE GIVING US A PRESENTATION LATER ON.
I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT THEY'RE HERE JOINING US TONIGHT.
UM, PLEASE, AS YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, MR. FLAG OF UNITED STATES AMERICA, AND TWO REPUBLIC, WHICH WE STANDS ONE NATION OF GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, AND THE EMPHASIS.
ALL RIGHT, SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH
[1* York County Youth Commission Quarterly Report. Receive a quarterly report from Thomas Shriner.]
A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS, AND OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS AGAIN, TO MR. THOMAS, YOUR HONOR, IS GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE, FOR THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION QUARTERLY REPORT.MR. YOUR HONOR, YOU HAVE THE PODIUM.
MY NAME IS THOMAS SHRINER, AND I'M A SENIOR AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU ALL A REPORT ON OUR ACTIVITIES SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND A BRIEF LOOK INTO WHAT'S TO COME.
OUR MOTTO IS YCYC, YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUTH COMMUNITY, AND OUR GOALS THIS ARE TO THIS YEAR, ARE TO PARTICIPATE AND OFFER COMMUNITY SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES, CONDUCT STUDENT SURVEYS, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMON GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
IN AUGUST, THE YOUTH COMMISSION HELD AN ORIENTATION WHERE MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE YOUTH COMMISSION AND ITS PURPOSE.
LATER THAT DAY, WE BONDED OVER MANY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE ROUNDS OF BOWLING AND VARIOUS ARCADE GAMES.
SINCE THEN, AT MANY OF OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, WE HAVE HAD GUEST SPEAKERS TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY'VE GOTTEN WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
IN SEPTEMBER, MS. CATHERINE GOFF, YORK COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION'S, PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, AND DR. ANDREA EVANS, Y CSCS SCHOOL COUNSELING COORDINATOR, DISCUSS THE ADVANCEMENTS AND CHANGES CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED IN OUR SCHOOLS AND COUNSELING DEPARTMENTS, AND ANSWERED MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS REGARDING GUIDANCE.
WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS FOR, FOR FURTHER OUTREACH PROGRAMS THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO INCREASE STUDENT PLANNING FOR LIFE BEYOND THEIR HIGH SCHOOL YEARS.
IN NOVEMBER, MR. NEIL MORGAN, FORMER YORK COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, TAUGHT US THE INS AND OUTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND GAVE US A DEEP DIVE INTO THE STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE UP YORK COUNTY.
IN FEBRUARY, MR. CHUCK WORLEY, FOUNDER AND CEO OF WORLEY'S HOME SERVICES TAUGHT US THE IMPORTANCE OF BRANDING AND GAVE US INSIGHT INTO THE CHALLENGES WE MIGHT FACE AS WE ENTERED THE WORKFORCE OR START OUR OWN BUSINESS.
MOST RECENTLY AT OUR MARCH MEETING, SHERIFF RON MONTGOMERY, SHERIFF AT YORK KOSIN SHERIFF'S OFFICE TOLD US ABOUT MAJOR PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON FIXING AND CALLED ON OUR HELP TO REDUCE SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES, REDUCE DRUG USE AMONGST TEENS, AND EXEMPLIFY PROPER INTERNET SAFETY.
AT OUR MEETINGS, MR. R HAS LED A LEADERSHIP SERIES EDUCATING US ON WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A LEADER, HOW TO LEAD EFFECTIVELY, AND WHAT LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE IN THE COMMUNITY.
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BEEN A WONDERFUL ROLE MODEL, AND WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR HIS WISDOM.THE YOUTH COMMISSION HAS VOLUNTEERED AT MULTIPLE MARKET DAYS.
DOWN AT THE YORKTOWN WATERFRONT YOUTH COMMISSIONERS HELPED WITH THE FALL FESTIVAL, PAUSE AT THE RIVER, THE MARITIME FESTIVAL, THE HARVEST FESTIVAL, AND THE MISSILE TOE MARKET.
AT THESE MARKET DAYS, COMMISSIONERS HELPED KIDS WITH ARTS AND CRAFTS PROJECTS AND HANDED OUT CANDY TO MARKET GOERS.
ON NOVEMBER 18TH, COMMISSIONERS VOLUNTEERED TO HELP WITH THE MAYFLOWER MAYFLOWER FOOD MARATHON, A FOOD DRIVE, SPONSORED BY THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK TO HELP FAMILIES ENJOY A PROPER THANKSGIVING DINNER.
WE HELPED WITH UNLOADING, QUANTIFYING, AND SORTING DONATIONS.
OVERALL, THE MAYFLOWER FOOD MARATHON DISTRIBUTES ABOUT 730,000 MEALS OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW DAYS AROUND THANKSGIVING.
ON DECEMBER 1ST, THE YOUTH COMMISSION HELPED WITH THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AT THE YOURTOWN WATERFRONT.
WE HELPED PEOPLE WRITE CARDS FOR SOLDIERS OR LETTERS TO SANTA.
OTHER COMMISSIONERS HELPED PASS OUT CANDLES BEFORE THE TREE WAS LIT.
ON FEBRUARY 9TH, ALA XO VOLUNTEERED TO HELP RUN VALENTINE'S DAY BINGO AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
SHE DISTRIBUTED PRIZES AND KEPT PEACE AMONG SOME VERY COMPETITIVE SENIORS.
FOR OUR WINTER SERVICE PROJECT, THE YOUTH COMMISSION SPONSORED A CLOTHING DRIVE TO BENEFIT THE BARGAIN BOX THRIFT STORE.
THE BARGAIN BOX USES ALL OF THEIR PROFITS TO ESTABLISH EMERGENCY FUNDS FOR FAMILIES, SPONSOR VOCATIONAL SCHOLARSHIPS, FUND DAYCARE SERVICES, AND DONATE TO OTHER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE AREA.
BOXES WERE PLACED AT EACH YORK COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, AND OVER THE COURSE OF A MONTH, ENOUGH CLOTHES WERE DONATED TO FILL THE BACK OF A LARGE VAN.
GRAFTON LOAN DONATED ABOUT 550 ARTICLES OF CLOTHING IN THE LAST WEEK.
THE WINNERS OF THE, OF THE OUTSTANDING YOUTH AWARDS WERE CHOSEN BY ME, NIKHIL SOLI, SECRETARY OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION, MS. SARONE, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND MS. LINDA FAIRMAN, CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THERE IS ONE WINNER SELECTED IN EACH OF THE CATEGORIES OF COMPASSION, COURAGE, COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT.
THESE WINNERS WILL BE GIVEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS SCHOLARSHIP AND WILL BE ANNOUNCED AND HONORED AT THE MAY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IN THE COMING WEEKS.
THE YOUTH COMMISSION IS PREPARING FOR THE ANNUAL TOWN HALL MEETINGS LED BY YOUTH COMMISSIONERS AT THEIR SCHOOLS.
ONE SUPERVISOR FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND ONE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE POSED 10 QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUTH CONCERNS FOR THE COUNTY AND SCHOOLS RESPECTIVELY.
BEYOND THIS, THE COMMISSION IS PLANNING A MOVIE NIGHT THAT IS TENTATIVELY PLANNED TO BE AT MCREYNOLDS SPORTS COMPLEX.
IN MAY IN THE COMING MONTHS, MORE INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED ABOUT THE MOVIE NIGHT AS IT COMES CLOSER.
FINALLY, APPLICATIONS FOR THE 20 24, 20 25 YOUTH COMMISSION ARE DUE TO THE PARKS AND REC OFFICE BY 5:00 PM ON MARCH 29TH.
IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW MAY BE INTERESTED IN APPLYING, PLEASE GET THOSE APPLICATIONS IN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
FOR MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE@WW.YC.INFO OR CALL THE PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE AT 8 9 0 3 5 0 0.
AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
OR LET'S ASK MS. NOEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WAS NICE TO SEE ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU DID OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL TO INTERFACE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
DID I CATCH THE NUMBER? RIGHT? 788,000? YES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A VERY, I'LL, I'LL CALL IT WELL OFF COUNTY, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, UH, FACE FOOD INSECURITY DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY.
AND IT IS JUST PHENOMENAL EFFORT THAT, UH, YOUR GROUP DID TO, UH, TO FEED THAT MANY OVER THE THANKSGIVING PERIOD.
AND, UH, ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE DOING THE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND GETTING INVOLVED.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICES.
SO ONE OF MY PRIVILEGES BEING ON THE, THE BOARD LIAISON TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION IS GETTING TO WORK WITH, WITH THIS GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH EVERY MONTH, AND IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE GROUP AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE SUCH A HARD WORKING BUNCH 'CAUSE YOU SAW EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT'S ON TOP OF 'EM BEING JUNIORS AND SENIORS FOR THE MOST PART.
AND ALL THE SCHOOL WORK THERE, YOU KNOW, CARRYING, UH, COLLEGE PREPARATION CLASSES, GETTING READY FOR COLLEGE OR THE MILITARY OR THE JOB MARKET AFTERWARDS.
A LOT OF THEM PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS, SO THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THIS AND THEIR PRESENTATION AND STILL HAVING A SOCIAL LIFE AND GETTING IT ALL DONE AND GETTING READY TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL
SO I REALLY, MY, MY, YOU KNOW, MY HAND, MY HEART'S OUT TO YOU GUYS DOING A GREAT JOB.
KEEP IT UP, GET A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS AS WE WRAP UP THE SEASON.
AND AS MR MENTIONED, THE, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR THE NEXT CLASS IS DUE MARCH 29TH, 2020 NINTH.
UM, THERE IS ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF SEATS PER, PER EACH,
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UM, UH, EACH SCHOOL.AND YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE A YOUTH HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH, YOU CAN'T FIND A BETTER GROUP TO JOIN, UH, TO WORK WITH.
SO PARENTS, YOU GOT HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, PLEASE CONSIDER, UM, GETTING 'EM SIGNED UP, GET APPLICATION IN SO WE HAVE CHOICES TO CHOOSE FROM.
SO, MR. RON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE
[2* Proposed Budget FY2025. Receive presentation from Mark Bellamy.]
GONNA REACH OUT TO MR. MARK BELLAMY, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.UH, THIS WILL BE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY, UH, ON MY PROPOSED 2025 BUDGET AT THE BREAK.
UH, STAFF WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH, UH, CIP BOOKS AND THE BUDGET BOOKS.
AND MRS. NOEL, THE BUDGET BRIEF PAPERS WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A SECOND AND SAY THANK YOU TO THERESA OWENS AND HER STAFF.
IF YOU ALL WOULDN'T MIND STANDING UP FOR A SECOND.
SO, THERESA OWENS, GREG GILLETTE, AMY HOLLAND, AND SAM ARTHUR.
THEY, THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I, AND I WOULD ADD THAT THIS IS REALLY A TEAM EFFORT, SO WE HAVE IT INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THIS YEAR.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS TRULY IS A TEAM EFFORT.
AS WITH ALL BUDGETS, WE GENERALLY START OFF WITH THE BOARD STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
I WON'T READ THEM TO YOU, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, DESIRE TO SEE THEM AGAIN, THEY ARE ON THE WEBSITE, ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PAGE.
THE BUDGET PROCESS STARTED IN OCTOBER IN THIS VERY ROOM, UH, THERESA HAD THE BUDGET CALL.
WE BROUGHT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN AND THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WORKING ON THE BUDGET, THEY ALL CAME HERE.
THERESA, UH, SHARED INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUDGET.
UH, I SHARED SOME EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT, UH, WE WERE HOPED TO HAVE WHEN IT'S ALL DONE, UH, THAT PRODUCT.
SO THIS IS WHERE IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE.
SO DURING A PROCESS, UH, WE HAVE MET, AS I SAID EARLIER, WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
WE'VE HAD COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL, AND THEN HERE WE, HERE WE ARE TODAY IN MARCH, HAVING THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT.
UM, LAST YEAR, MR. SHEPHERD, AS THE CHAIRMAN, CHALLENGED THE STAFF TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, UH, IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE DIFFERENTLY IS THIS BUDGET HEARING THAT WE'LL HAVE COMING UP AT, AT, UH, THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY.
WE'VE MADE SOME VIDEO SHORTS THAT HAVE COME FROM QUESTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN WE'VE BEEN ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN ONLINE AS WELL.
SO IT, IT HAS BEEN A MUCH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, AT LEAST FOR STAFF AND HOW WE'VE PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HOW ALL THAT HAS COME TOGETHER.
SO, ONE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS FOR THIS TOWN HALL MEETING THAT'S COMING UP ON THE 26TH.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY A WEEK FROM TONIGHT AT SEVEN.
AS I SAID, AT THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, WE DO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PRE-REGISTER.
THAT FACILITY HAS A LIMITED NUMBER OF SEATS AVAILABLE JUST BY SIZE.
AND SO WE WILL, UH, PUT THE PEOPLE IN THAT HAVE REGISTERED.
UH, THEY'LL GET FIRST SHOT AT THEIR SEATS.
WE'LL GIVE 'EM RESERVED SEATS.
IF THERE ARE ANY LEFTOVER SEATS, WE'LL, ACTUALLY, WE'LL TAKE WALK-INS AS WELL.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO CAPACITY, WE'LL HAVE TO STOP.
SO WE DO RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, REGISTER IN ADVANCE FOR THAT.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
IS, IS THERE ANOTHER ROOM IN THE LIBRARY IF NECESSARY, WHERE THEY CAN HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MEETING? UM, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT.
OUR, OUR PLAN WAS THAT IF WE HAD MORE REGISTER THAN WE HAD SPACE FOR, THAT WE WOULD MOVE THE LOCATION TO, OH, A DIFFERENT VENUE.
SO WE, WE HAD ANOTHER VENUE RESERVED IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAD TO MAKE A LAST SECOND CHANGE.
AT THE MOMENT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
UH, BUT WE DID HAVE PLAN B IN CASE THAT, UH, NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
SO, AS, UH, STAFF AND I TOOK A LOOK AT THE, UH, 2025 BUDGET, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO GIVE, UH, TO THIS.
UH, GIVEN THE ASSESSMENT, WE, WE EXPECTED THAT THERE WOULD BE A DESIRE FOR A REAL ESTATE TAX CUT.
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HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ELIMINATION OF THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEE AS WELL.SO THOSE WERE, UH, TWO BIG ISSUES THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS IN THIS BUDGET.
UH, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SU SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAINED, UH, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WE AND THE SCHOOLS WERE KNOWN FOR.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES BY PROVIDING A REASONABLE, UH, COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN A AND A CONTINUED, UH, INVESTMENT IN THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.
WE WILL EXPERIENCE AN INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE.
THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS RUN BY THE STATE.
UH, THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF ACTUARIALS, UH, SITTING AROUND DECIDING WHAT THEY NEED TO PAY OUT THEIR RETIREMENTS, AND THEY TELL US THEY'RE GONNA NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM US IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT HERE IN A COUPLE SLIDES.
AND THEN THE CIP FUNDING AND SOME PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING, UH, WHICH I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF, AOF ALL IN THE 2025 BUDGET THAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS $266 MILLION ACROSS ALL THE COUNTY FUNDS.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE FUNDS THAT ARE SELF-SUPPORTING, MUCH LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT IN THE WORK SESSION.
UH, FUND IS ALSO AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
UH, OTHER FUNDS WOULD BE, UH, INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS OR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, SUCH AS THE TOURISM.
NOW, OFTENTIMES WE TRANSFER MONEY BETWEEN THESE FUNDS, SO WE DON'T WANNA DOUBLE COUNT IT.
SO THAT IS THE LESS TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS.
SO THAT GIVES US, UH, $266.3 MILLION FOR THE TOTAL COUNTY BUDGET.
AND THE GENERAL FUND, THAT FIRST FUND LISTED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THAT PROPOSED GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS $190 MILLION.
SO THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE GENERAL FUND, AND, AND THIS IS REALLY THE MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION, I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU ALL CAME TONIGHT TO SEE.
SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, I'M RECOMMENDING IS A 3 CENT REAL ESTATE TAX CUT, THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEE TO BE ELIMINATED.
THOSE TWO ITEMS TOGETHER ARE $5.5 MILLION OF AVOIDANCE AND TAX PAYING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AGAIN, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO SUSTAIN EXCELLENCE, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, 4% AND $500 ANNUALIZED.
SO ON AVERAGE, FOR A $50,000 A YEAR EMPLOYEE, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO OUR MEAN SALARY, UH, THAT RUNS RIGHT AT 5%.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOWER ON THE PAY SCALE, THEIR EFFECTIVE INCREASE WOULD BE HIGHER.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE HIGHER ON THE PAY SCALE, THEIR EFFECTIVE RATE WOULD BE LESS.
EARLY ON IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, THERESA AND I MET WITH, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND BILL BOWEN, THEIR FINANCE OFFICER, AND MET AND HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO FOR SCHOOLS, WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE.
WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS COME UP WITH WHAT WE CALL A WORKING NUMBER.
SO WHAT WE AGREED ON AT THAT TIME WAS $2.3 MILLION.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM AS A GROUP DECISION FROM US AND WHAT WE FELT LIKE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD AT THE TIME.
UM, WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE.
UH, AS I'VE PLANNED IT OUT NOW, 12% WILL BE ABSORBED BY THE COUNTY, AND 2% OF THAT WILL BE INVOL, YOU KNOW, PAID BY THE EMPLOYEE, UH, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEGLIGIBLE.
AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, IN THE DENTAL PLAN, THAT'S, UH, 50 CENTS.
SO THEY WILL REALLY REALIZE THE EFFECT OF HAVING THAT NICE RAISE.
THEY WILL NOT SEE IT, UH, GO AWAY IN HEALTH INSURANCE OR DENTAL PREMIUMS. SO I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR US TO BE GIVEN THIS LABOR MARKET.
UH, THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, AS I SAID EARLIER, GAVE US NOTICE THAT, UH, THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE OUR RATES.
SO WE'LL BE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL 7.3% ON RETIREMENTS AS WELL.
THE BOARD HAS BEEN INTERESTED, UH, PREVIOUSLY IN INCREASING OUR CASH FOR THE CIP.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING, I'M RECOMMENDING
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A $750,000 INCREASE, WHICH MAKES OUR TOTAL CASH IN FOR NEXT YEAR IS, UH, 4.75 MILLION.AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND SOME PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, POSITIONS, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE HERE.
I THINK ON THIS VERY NEXT, NOT, NOT THAT SLIDE, BUT IN THE NEXT ONE OR TWO, UM, THE 2025 PROPOSED TAX RATES, AS I MENTIONED, A 3%, A 3 CENT REDUCTION, UH, ON THE REAL ESTATE RATE, NO REDUCTION ON PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, ALTHOUGH WE WILL BE ELIMINATING THE FEE.
AND I, THIS IS GENERAL FUND STUFF, AND, AND I DO WANNA MAKE THE POINT THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER A SLIDE THAT SAID $18.1 MILLION.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
I KNOW IT WOULD BE EASY TO CONFUSE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE STARTING POINT.
IT'S 18.1 MILLION MINUS THE REDUCTION IN TAXES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
SO EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE 18 MILLION ON THE SLIDE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS 12.6 MILLION, NOT 18.1.
AND WE'RE, AND WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THE TAX RATES, I WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WE STILL HAVE IN PLACE THE TAX RELIEF FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED PROGRAM, THE DISABLED VETERANS, AND LAST YEAR YOU ALL ADDED SURVIVING SPOUSE EXEMPTIONS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL STILL IN PLACE.
IN ADDITION TO ADDING THE SURVIVING SPOUSE EXEMPTION, YOU ALSO TIED A, UH, INFLATIONARY FACTOR TO THESE.
SO THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO UP AND IMPROVE, UH, INDEXED THE BENEFIT TO THOSE FOLKS THAT QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM.
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME COMPARISON, WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS 74 CENTS THAT WOULD MAKE US ROUGHLY THE CHEAPEST FULL SERVICE PROVIDER OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES IN HAMPTON ROADS.
THESE FIGURES THAT YOU SEE HERE, OBVIOUSLY OURS IS 74 CENTS AS PROPOSED.
THE OTHERS HERE ARE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, BECAUSE WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO START DEVELOPING A BUDGET.
SO AT THIS MOMENT, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHETHER THEY PLAN TO LOWER THEIR TAXES AT, AT ALL.
SO WE'RE USING WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE BOOKS TODAY.
SO THAT'S HOW WE COMPARE AGAINST EVERYONE ELSE IN THE REGION.
AND OBVIOUSLY, JAMES CITY IS THE CLOSEST TO US IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS, SIZE, ET CETERA.
PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, $3 AND 90 CENTS.
AGAIN, UH, THE, ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE REGION.
SO THE ADOPTED BUDGET LAST YEAR WAS $174 MILLION.
UH, IN 2025, REVENUES EXPECT TO BE 192 MILLION.
THE ESTIMATED INCREASE IN REVENUES OF $18.1 MILLION, 10.4%.
THIS IS THE WAY WE ALLOCATED THAT $18.1 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, $18.1 MILLION IS NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
IT'S LESS THOSE TAXES THAT WOULD NOT BE PAID.
SO AGAIN, WE SPENT $3.9 MILLION ON A 3 CENT REAL ESTATE REDUCTION, $1.6 MILLION ON THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEE.
AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH HERE AND SEE WHAT THIS ALL ADDS UP TO.
THE $18.1 MILLION, THE EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, I DON'T THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT YET.
UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA RUN US $1.7 MILLION.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED IN TOTAL FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD SPEND AN ADDITIONAL $3.8 MILLION THAT INCLUDES THEIR RAISE, PLUS THE AMOUNT WE WOULD SPEND ON HEALTH INSURANCE, PLUS THE AMOUNT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY UNDER VRS.
AGAIN, THE SCHOOL CONTRIBUTION INCREASED $2.3 MILLION AND THE INCREASE IN CASH CAPITAL.
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WHAT I'M GONNA RECOMMEND TO YOU IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF TO HAVE FOUR NEW DEPUTIES IN JULY WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS.AND THEN IN JAN, SOMEWHERE IN THE JANUARY TO APRIL TIMEFRAME, DEPENDING ON OUR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, WE'LL AUTHORIZE ANOTHER FOUR.
SO IN TOTAL FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE SHERIFF WOULD RECEIVE EIGHT NEW DEPUTIES, FIREFIGHTERS MUCH THE SAME WAY, FIREFIGHTERS IN JULY AND FIREFIGHTERS IN JANUARY THREE EACH.
WE DID, UM, RECLASS, AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER FROM WORK IS REQUIRED OR WILL RECOMMEND THAT TO YOU.
UM, THERE IS ENOUGH WORK AS REQUIRED MONEY TO OFFSET THEIR SALARY.
SO IT SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE THE CHIEF EXPRESS THE DESIRE TO BRING THAT POSITION TO FULL TIME THAT HE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO, UH, CERTAINLY EVERY IN AGREEMENT WITH BETTER SERVICE.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
UH, THE CLERK OF COURTS, UH, MS. NELSON ASKED FOR, UH, THREE POSITIONS.
AND WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO YOU IS ONE, UH, I ASKED HER IF WE COULD ONLY DO ONE, WHICH ONE WOULD SHE WANT? MM-HMM,
AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE WOULD WANT.
UM, THE LAST ITEM HERE THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS JAMES CITY COUNTY, AND THE CONSOLIDATION, YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT.
AND THE NET INCREASE TO OUR POSITIONS IS 23 FROM, FROM FOLDING THOSE INTO, UH, MR. HALL'S OPERATION THAT ADDED 23 FTES, UM, TO THE COUNTY'S ROLES.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT WHATEVER THOSE 23 COST US, JAMES CITY COUNTY IS PAYING.
THEY'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING EXTRA TO OUR BUDGET IN TERMS OF FUNCTION, IF YOU HAD ANY DESIRE TO KNOW, UM, HOW THIS GENERAL FUND WOULD BE IMPACTED, UH, IN TERMS OF FUNCTIONS, THIS IS THE DIFFERENCES.
PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD GO UP BY $7 MILLION.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT INCLUDES THE JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, CONSOLIDATION.
THE OTHER BIG ONE IS OBVIOUSLY THE SCHOOLS.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS DRIVEN BY THE $2.3 MILLION, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE GIVEN THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THERE THAT WE WOULD BE, UH, HANDING OFF TO KEVIN SMITH IN THE LIBRARY AS WELL.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE SEWER FUND, UH, SOLID WASTE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST WORK SESSION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT AGAIN AT THE UPCOMING WORK SESSION.
AND THEN, UH, TERRY'S REGIONAL RADIO, UH, PROJECT IS ALSO AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WENT UP, UM, SLIGHTLY AS WELL.
THESE ARE THE FEES THAT YOU SAW AT THE LAST WORK SESSION WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOLID WASTE.
WHAT WE DID IS I PUT, I ASKED STAFF TO PUT THESE IN HERE AS THE, AS WE RECOMMENDED THEM AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO THE BUDGET THAT YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR INCLUDES THE FEES AT THESE RATES.
SO IF IN A FUTURE WORK SESSION, YOU MAKE A DECISION ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU WANT THERE, ONCE YOU'VE SEEN WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING, THEN WE'LL MAKE THE APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENT AT THAT TIME.
BUT TODAY, THEY'RE BASED ON THE RATES THAT YOU SAW AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.
UM, SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS OR FUNDS SUCH AS TOURISM FUND, HEAD START, SOCIAL SERVICES.
UM, ONE THING THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY ENTERED INTO THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AUTHORITY COME JULY ONE, OUR FIRST PAYMENT IS DUE, AND THAT WILL BE $400,000.
THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS FUND AS WELL.
IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, AND WORKERS' COMP, UH, THEY WENT UP SLIGHTLY JUST ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN THE FOUR OF 'EM, LARGELY DRIVEN BY, UM, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND HEALTH AND DENTAL INSURANCE BACK IN FEBRUARY.
I GAVE YOU A PRESENTATION OF THE CIP.
THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY HIGH LEVEL REPEAT OF THAT CONVERSATION, JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT IT'S OUT THERE AND IT IS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
UH, THE PURPOSE IN THIS IS TO PROVIDE US WITH
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A PLAN FOR REPLACEMENT AND RESTORATION OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.AND GENERALLY, ALL OF THE CIP ITEMS ARE SUPPORTING ONE OR MORE OF THE BOARD STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WE HAVE IN THIS PROCESS.
WHAT WE DO IS WE GO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND SAY, OKAY, IN, IN FY 25, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU, UH, HAVE IN HERE FOR YOUR PROJECT? THE SEQUENCE AND THE TIMING ALSO MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AS WELL, AND NEW PROJECTS ARE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE IN THE OUT YEARS.
UH, AND THEN, UM, IN YEAR ONE, WHEN YOU VOTE ON MAY 7TH FOR THE BUDGET, WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR IS YEAR ONE MM-HMM.
THIS IS HOW WE SEE THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD.
AND AS I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU ALL EARLIER, WE DO USE A FUNDING MODEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS REASONABLE AND ATTAINABLE BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS LONG AGO IN OUR HISTORY WHERE WE HAD 10 YEAR CIPS AND EVERYTHING WAS GAME IN THE CIP.
THE PROBLEM WAS THEY WEREN'T REALISTIC.
SO IT WAS JUST AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY.
SO WE'VE CUT IT ALL DOWN AND TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD, AND THAT IS A RESULT OF THIS PROCESS MUCH BETTER.
UH, HERE'S THE CIP BY FUNCTIONAL AREAS, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE SHERIFF, PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, PUBLIC WORKS, AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR A TOTAL OF $14.4 MILLION.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT HAVE CIP PROJECTS, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FUND, SEWER FUND, AS WELL AS STORM WATER.
AND THE WATER FUND IN OUT YEARS HAS A COUPLE PROJECTS THERE.
AND THEN THE CIP FOR THE SCHOOLS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN WE VOTE ON MAY 7TH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE CIP FOR THE SCHOOLS AT $14.2 MILLION.
SINCE THE LAST PRESENTATION, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE CHANGES, UH, THAT THE BOARD ASKED FOR, AND THEN A, A CHANGE THAT I HAVE INCORPORATED.
AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE THE CIP AND WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO WITH IT.
UH, WE LOOKED AT IT AND THINKING ABOUT THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY, I THINK MR. HORO WAS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, UM, NOT BEGINNING THAT FUNDING.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THEY HIRED SOMEBODY.
SO IN INTERIM, I STAND CORRECTED.
UM, SO AN INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND THEN THEY STILL ARE WORKING ON PLANS AS TO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
THEN ONE OTHER THING, UH, THAT WE NOTICED IN THE CIP, UH, THAT WASN'T REFLECTED, THE WORK THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMMED FOR QUEENS LAKE, MM-HMM.
WE DID RECEIVE A $1 MILLION, UM, STATE FUNDING.
AND THAT WAS NOT REFLECTED, WHICH WE TYPICALLY DO IN THE CIP.
SO WE ADDED THAT IN TO, TO SHOW THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THAT MONEY FROM THE STATE.
UH, BACK TO BULLET NUMBER ONE THERE, THE FIRE CHIEF AND I HAD A CONVERSATION HERE RECENTLY ABOUT STATION SEVEN, AND THERE IS NO ENGINE SLASH PUMPER AT STATION SEVEN.
THEY ARE RUNNING A LADDER ON CALLS, UH, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, AN ENORMOUS SIZE TRUCK TO BE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROADS, AND IT'S VERY HARD ON IT, AND IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
SO IT SEEMS THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A PUMPER THERE.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT WE ADD THAT, UH, TO THE CIP.
AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AT A LATER TIME WHEN WE DISCUSS THE CIP, AGAIN, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THAT CHANGE IS IN THERE AND WHY IT'S THERE.
I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT EARLY ON WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET ENGAGEMENTS, AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME BUDGET SHORTS BEFORE.
I WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE OTHERS WITH YOU BEFORE WE WRAP UP.
AS STAFF AND I WORK ON THE 2025 FISCAL BUDGET, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY.
THE COUNTY HAS MANY FORMS OF GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
THE TWO LARGEST REVENUE SOURCES
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ARE THE REAL ESTATE TAX AS WELL AS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.AND THEY MAKE UP ABOUT 61% OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE.
TECHNICALLY, WE DON'T ACTUALLY BUDGET FOR A SURPLUS.
OUR GENERAL FUND IS BALANCED IN WHICH REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ARE THE SAME EACH YEAR.
BUT WE DO CONSERVATIVELY BUDGET SO THAT WE PLAN FOR A SURPLUS.
THE STATE PROVIDES 52% OF OUR FUNDING.
UM, AND SO IN FY 24, UH, THAT'S $99 MILLION.
ON THE LOCAL SIDE, THE COUNTY PROVIDES 34% OF OUR FUNDING, OR $61 MILLION, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES 13% OF OUR FUNDING, OR $24 MILLION.
THE LAST INCREASE TO RESIDENTS FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.
IN 2019, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PROVIDERS TO DELIVER THESE SERVICES AT THE LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE.
THE COUNTY IS GOING TO INCREASE ENERGY EFFICIENCY BY DECREASING COSTS.
AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT IS BY A PRETTY MUCH A NUMBER OF METHODS.
IT'S OUR ACTIVE UTILITY REDUCTION PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY TOWARDS OUR FACILITIES AND OUR SANITARY SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET SEASON.
WELL, WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT, I COULD TELL YOU WHAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS UPCOMING BUDGET DATES.
AGAIN, THE ONE ON THE 26TH, UH, WHERE WE HAVE LISTENING SESSION AT YORKTOWN LIBRARY THAT I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
UH, ON APRIL 2ND, WE HAVE A WORK SESSION.
UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE WE'RE BRINGING BACK, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT TO THAT, THAT WORK SESSION AS WELL.
APRIL 16TH, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR ADOPTION ON MAY 7TH.
AS, UH, THE CITIZENS, AS I INVITED THE CITIZENS TO DO, WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME INPUT ON THIS BUDGET, AND THEY CAN EMAIL THEIR COMMENTS TO THE BOS WE, UH, EMAIL ADDRESS, OR THEY CAN CALL TO THAT NUMBER THERE.
AND WE'RE STILL TAKING THE FORMS ONLINE, THE JOT FORMS ONLINE WITH REGARD BUDGET COMMENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE SHORTS WERE MADE OF AS WELL.
SO THOSE OPTIONS ARE STILL AVAILABLE, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN ATTEND A MEETING AND SHARE THEIR COMMENTS WITH US HERE AS WELL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT, UH, CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.
UH, MR. DREW, WE CAN START WITH YOU.
UM, JUST LOOKING THROUGH AND POURING OVER WHAT WE'VE BEEN POURING OVER.
I THINK THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROCESS THROUGH THE BUDGET AND, UH, ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE REAL ESTATE RATES AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THAT TO MAKE THIS MORE AMICABLE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET.
SO THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB SHOWING OUR CITIZENS WHAT A BUDGET ENTAILS AND WHAT IT COVERS, AND HOW YOU'VE SCRUBBED THE NUMBERS.
I REALLY ALSO APPRECIATED THE OUTREACH THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I'VE WATCHED THE ADS ON TV AS FAR AS THE, THE BUDGET SHORTS ARE CONCERNED, AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE PITHY AND TO THE POINT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH STAFF FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE.
WELL, I, I PREPARED A SPEECH AND I'VE, I'VE MADE, I'VE MARKED IT UP, UH, THROUGH THE NIGHT.
UH, AS MORE AND MORE INFORMATION CAME IN, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT SOME OF MY NUMBERS ARE, ARE, UH, MISLEADING.
BUT I, I WANTED TO START WITH A HISTORY LESSON.
I I WAS BACK HERE IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR AT THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND I TALKED ABOUT MY FAVORITE TOPIC, WHICH WAS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
AND I, UM, I SUGGESTED TO THE CHAIRMAN AT THAT TIME, MR. SHEPHERD, THAT, UH, WE IN FACT WERE LOOKING AT A $9 MILLION SURPLUS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IF WE DID NOT FURTHER REDUCE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, UM, AT E AT MIDYEAR.
SO IN THE DECEMBER INVOICES, WE WERE THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SURPLUS ON PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
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UH, MS. SARAH WEBB, UH, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE THIS PAST WEEK TO GET UPDATES ON WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF VEHICLE VALUES AND WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN YORK COUNTY AND WHAT THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT VALUE IS.AND MS. UH, WEBB DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF TURNING THAT AROUND AND, AND GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO ME.
NOW, I RECOGNIZE, AND AS MR. BELLAMY POINTED OUT TO ME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THAT BOOK VALUE THAT, UH, THAT I WAS PROVIDED IS BEFORE REBATES, AND IT'S BEFORE STATE, UH, UH, STATE FUNDING THAT WE DO RECEIVE.
UH, SO IT'S NOT THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER THAT WE BASE OUR TAXES ON, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, THE SURPLUS GENERATED BY THAT NUMBER WOULD BE $8.9 MILLION.
SO I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE, UH, MR. SHEPHERD, UH, BACK IN JUNE WHEN HE SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW MY NUMBERS AND THAT, THAT THEY WERE DEAD WRONG.
I WANT, I WANTED TO, TO REMIND HIM OF THAT POINT.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
UM, THE MESSAGE THAT I'M DELIVERING IS THAT WE DO HAVE A FAIRLY SIZABLE SURPLUS IN OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
IT'S, IT'S NOT 9 MILLION BECAUSE I GRANT YOU THAT STATE FUNDING, ET CETERA, UH, DOES AFFECT SOME OF THAT NUMBER.
BUT WE WERE THREE AND A HALF MILLION AT MIDYEAR.
SO IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT WE'RE 7 MILLION FOR THE YEAR.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GOOD PORTION OF THAT SURPLUS ROLLED BACK INTO THE REAL ESTATE RATE.
UH, WE'RE PAYING 11% IF I, IF MY NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, 74 4 CENTS INSTEAD OF 64 CENTS.
64 WOULD BE THE BREAK EVEN FROM LAST YEAR.
74 CENTS IS 11% INCREASE IN IN TAX THAT OUR CITIZENS WOULD BE PAYING ON PROPERTY.
WHY CAN'T WE BRING OUR TAX RATE IN CLOSER TO THAT 7%? AND MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE TAKE THAT BUDGET SURPLUS THAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED IN PERSONAL PROPERTY VEHICLE TAX, AND ROLL THAT INTO OUR REAL ESTATE RATE.
I BELIEVE WE CAN GET DOWN INTO THE 70 OR 69 CENT RATE AND BE BALANCED ON OUR BUDGET.
UH, SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO SEE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE, UH, TAX CUTS THAT RESULT IN SALARIES BEING CUT OR, UH, PEOPLE BEING LAID OFF.
MY INTENT IS TO FIND THE SURPLUSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND BUILD THEM BACK INTO OUR RATES SO THAT WE'RE GIVING A FAIR TAX RATE TO THE CITIZENS, SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH CLOSER TO THE RATE OF INFLATION RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN 11%.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK, UH, MR. BELLAMY AND HIS STAFF GETTING US TO THIS MAJOR MILESTONE IN, IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET TO PUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE TO TALK TO IS A, IS A HUGE STEP.
UM, AND I KNOW THE ADVERTISE THAT THAT CONVERSATION STARTED IN THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME, BUT REALLY, YOU NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
IT IS ALREADY, IT'S ALWAYS ON SOMEBODY'S MIND.
IT'S ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS GETTING US THIS MAJOR MILESTONE.
UM, IT IS A HUGE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, NOT JUST WITHIN COUNTY STAFF, BUT ALSO WITH COLLABORATION WITH OUR SCHOOL, SCHOOL DIVISION.
WHAT DO THEY NEED? HOW, HOW CAN WE HELP THEM? AND ALSO, ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES AS WELL AS SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, CONGRESS, ATTORNEY, CLERK OF COURTS, UH, TREASURER COMMISSIONER, REVENUE, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS DO NOT COVER ALL THE EXPENSES THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS NEED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT EVERYBODY HERE EXPECTS.
SO IT'S UP TO THE COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FILL THAT GAP.
SO THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A MILESTONE.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE ROAD YET.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF SLICING AND DICING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME OP SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES HERE WE CAN GET INTO.
UM, AND WE, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED POTENTIAL SAVINGS ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL SAVINGS BY ELIMINATING THE CAR REGISTRATION FEES.
TO ME, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PILLARS OF, OF THIS BUDGET.
THERE'S THE THIRD PILLAR I WANNA LOOK AT, AND MR. RO KIND OF ADDRESSED IT ALREADY, IS, ALRIGHT, WHAT ABOUT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE? WHAT OPPORTUNITY DO WE HAVE THERE? I LIKE THE OPTION OF HAVING A BLENDED APPROACH ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT THE SAVINGS REACHES A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT, NEXT FEW WEEKS.
I'M SURE MR. BELLAMY STAFF IS GETTING READY TO GET INUNDATED BY, UH, ALL OF US, UM, SHARING OUR, OUR IDEAS AND, AND THINGS WE WANNA SEE, SEE HAPPEN.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
GREAT KICKOFF, BUT STILL A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.
ALRIGHT, UM, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE INTO
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THE, UM, CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.AND AS ALWAYS, AS YOU COME UP, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, GET STARTED AFTER YOU SHARE YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, ONCE THE LIGHT GOES YELLOW, YOU GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS TO WRAP UP AND ONCE IT GOES RED, UM, IT'S
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TIME, TIME TO WRAP UP THE CONVERSATION, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.SO FIRST TONIGHT WITH MS. CAROLYN HARRIS, JOIN US UP HERE PLEASE.
SENIOR AGES, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I RESIDE AT TWO 14 GORMAN LOOP IN VILLA OF YORKTOWN.
TONIGHT I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE 55 AND OLDER IN THE VILLAS OF YORKTOWN.
WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY TAKE OVER THE LANDSCAPE PATH AND STREETLIGHTS AROUND 17.
THEY'RE LOCATED ON YORK COUNTY PROPERTY, NOT VILLA PROPERTY.
THIS PRO AREA IS ON ROUTE 17, ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THE BEGINNING OF COOK ROAD ALL THE WAY TO FALCON ROAD.
THE DEVELOPER HAD A DEAL WITH YORK COUNTY TO INSTALL A PAST STREETLIGHTS AND MAINTAIN THIS PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S CALLED A PROFFER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROPERTY WAS PASSED ON TO OUR COMMUNITY AND HAS BECOME A GREAT EXPENSE TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
IN 13 YEARS, YORK COUNTY HAS TAKEN IN OVER $2 MILLION FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
THIS DOESN'T COUNT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY SPENDS IN GROCERIES, BUYING GAS, FALL CARS, RESIDENT RESTAURANTS, BEAUTY SHOPS, AND ET CETERA.
KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE SENIOR CITIZENS AND WE DON'T STRAY FAR FROM HOME TO SHOP.
WE ARE AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN ROADS, OUR OWN STREET LIGHTS, AND WE HAVE NO CHILDREN IN YORK COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AS I WROTE DOWN ROUTE 17 FROM NEW NEWS TO GLOUCESTER, I DO NOT SEE ANY STREETLIGHTS ON ANY OF YORK COUNTY'S PROPERTY EXCEPT AT THE AREA WHERE THE VILLAS OF YORKTOWN ARE.
AND THE SIDEWALKS I SEE ARE MAINTAINED BY YORK COUNTY.
WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNTY TO PUT THIS IN YOUR PRESENT BUDGET AND NOT WAIT FOR YEARS TO DO THIS.
THIS PROPERTY IS A HUGE BURDEN ON OUR SMALL, ELDERLY, ELDERLY COMMUNITY, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A BURDEN FOR THE COUNTY CONSIDERING THE HUGE REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU JUST PASSED ON TO YOUR CITIZENS.
OUR COST FOR THIS PROPERTY IS AROUND $7,000.
YOUR COUNTY WILL TAKE IN FROM OUR COMMUNITY JUST THIS YEAR OVER $200,000 IN REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND THANK SHERIFF MONTGOMERY AND HIS STAFF FOR THE SAFETY OF VAL COUNTY AND THE BEST OF THE BEST TO STEVE KUSKI AND HIS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR SERVICE.
AND WE CANNOT ASK FOR BETTER CITIZENS THAN YORK COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IN THE 13 YEARS THAT I HAVE LIVED THERE, WE HAVE NEVER HAD THE FIRST PROBLEM WITH THE STAFF OF THE CHILDREN AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL.
MR. MR. BELLAMY, COULD YOU, MS I COULD TURN THE MIC UP A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN'T, CANNOT HEAR THEM ON THE MIC.
ALRIGHT, MR. BELLAMY, COULD YOU GET YOUR STAFF, TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE MAY HAVE TO, TO ASSIST MS. MS. HARRISON GIVE US SOME, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS COMING UP OR HAVE Y'ALL ALREADY LOOKED AT IT? I, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND WITH IT THAT I'D BE WILLING TO SHARE WITH YOU LATER, UM, BEFORE MS. HARRIS.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR HOA, WHETHER SHE'S A OFFICER OR NOT, BUT MR. CURRY USED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THAT A FEW YEARS AGO.
MR. CURRY AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT SIDEWALK, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WHAT AND WE HAVE IN, IN GENERAL AGREED THAT WE WOULD TAKE IT ONCE WE MADE THE CONNECTION FROM THE LIBRARY TO THERE.
WE CAN DO MORE FOLLOW UP ON IT SURE.
TO GET PAST THE COMMENT, CHRIS.
I LIVE AT 1 0 3 KIMBERLY COURT, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA SALES TAX IS 5.3%.
HAMPTON ROAD SALES TAX WAS RAISED TO 6% BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE HRBT AND WHEN IT IS COMPLETE, WE WILL BE PRIVILEGED WITH A TOLL TO USE THE BRIDGE TUNNEL.
WE ALREADY FUNDED THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE SALES TAX RAISED US TO 7% THE HIGHEST IN ALL OF VIRGINIA BECAUSE TOMMY NORMAN AND THREE GOVERNING BOARDS WANTED TO SUBSIDIZE THE TOURIST INDUSTRY UNDER THIS MANDATE.
WE ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THE WILLIAMSBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE $400,000 YEARLY WITHOUT ANY CONTROL OVER HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE EXPENDED.
NOW, THESE SAME GOVERNING BODIES WANT THE YORK COUNTY TAXPAYERS TO FUND AN $80 MILLION SPORTS COMPLEX
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THAT IS GUARANTEED TO BE A LOSING ENDEAVOR.WE WILL UNDERWRITE THE LOSS BY FUNDING 400,000 IN YEAR ONE AND 800,000 IN TWO YEARS, TWO THROUGH FIVE FOR YEAR SIX THROUGH 30.
WE WILL PROVIDE 300 TO $800,000 ANNUALLY DEPENDING ON THE INCOME OR LACK THEREOF FROM THIS COMPLEX.
THIS BOARD GAVE 6.4 ACRES OF TAXABLE COUNTY LAND TO THE VICTORY FAMILY YMCA.
AS A NONPROFIT, THEY PAY NO TAXES.
AND IF I WANT TO JOIN AT A SENIOR SINGLE MEMBERSHIP, I MUST PAY $710 PER YEAR.
LIKE THE SPORTS COMPLEX, THE HRBT TOURISM AND YMCA ARE SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS.
BUT, BUT IF WE WANT TO USE THEM, WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY AGAIN FOR THE PRIVILEGE.
NOW OUR REAL, UH, REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS HAVE RISEN AN OBSCENE AMOUNT.
MINE INCREASED 84,900 AND MY DAUGHTER'S INCREASED 99,200.
UNTIL WE SELL OUR HOMES, WE SEE NO BENEFIT FROM AN INCREASED VALUE.
I HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON MY HOME FOR 38 YEARS.
SO IF I SOLD MY HOUSE TODAY, MY PROFIT WOULD BE DIMINISHED BY ALL THOSE YEARS OF TAXES ALREADY PAID.
I KNOW YOU'RE PLANNING TO REDUCE THE REAL ESTATE TAX TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE ASSESSMENT INCREASES.
AND I KNOW THE COST OF OPERATING A GOVERNMENT ONLY RISES.
BUT PLEASE CONSIDER USING THE FUNDS YOU DO GET FROM THE CITIZENS BY TAXES AND FEES FOR PROJECTS THAT WORK FOR ALL OF US NOT LOSING MONEY AND BY, UH, NOT LOSING MONEY AND THE TAXPAYERS WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY EVEN MORE TO USE THEM.
I WANT TO REITERATE THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE CITIZENS PAY THE HIGHEST SALES TAX IN ALL OF VIRGINIA.
I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT AT THE TWO, UH, THE 2023 VALUE OF MY HOME.
UH, THE TAX ASSESSMENT, UH, WAS, UH, $3,080 AT 77 CENTS AT A 3 CENT REDUCTION RATE.
IT IS AN INCREASED ASSESSMENT TO $3,589.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU DO YOUR BUDGET.
RON STRUBBLE 2 0 5 SHADY OF BLUFF POINT.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONSERVATIVE YORK COUNTY FOUNDATION.
UH, WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT A PROPOSAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE OUR BUDGET BY ABOUT 8.8% YEAR OVER YEAR.
THIS WEEK WHILE WAITING TO MEET A FRIEND AT MY FAVORITE HAUNT ALE WORKS ON MOTOWN ROAD.
I SAT THROUGH FOUR LIGHT CYCLES OF TRAFFIC JUST TO NAVIGATE THE INTERSECTION TONIGHT I WAS LATE FOR THREE LIGHT CYCLES ON ROSHAMBO UP IN DISTRICT ONE IN FEBRUARY.
LOST IN ALL THE DRAMA INVOLVING THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.
WAS AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT REPORT PROVIDING SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON THE OVERCROWDING OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE NEED TO RE REDISTRICT CHILDREN THROUGH DIFFERENT SCHOOLS JUST TO MAKE THEM ALL FIT.
FOR NOW, MOVING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IS TRAUMATIC.
BASED ON THE CONSULTANT'S REPORT, THERE WILL BE A WHOPPING 267 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS ADDED TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM JUST BASED ON DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW.
THAT INCLUDES 153 STUDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN TRAILERS IN MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THAT NUMBER WILL GO TO 328 STUDENTS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND DISTRICT ONE WHEN THIS PIPELINE IS COMPLETE HERE, JUST ON THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE, THERE ARE NO SCHOOL EXPANSIONS PLANNED BEYOND TRAILERS.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, MUCH OF THE INCREASE YOU SAW TONIGHT IN THE BUDGET ARE THE BILLS NOW COMING DUE DUE TO THE REZONING FRENZY OF THE LAST SAYS 2000 UP TILL 2021.
PEOPLE MOVE TO YORK COUNTY FOR THE SCHOOLS FOR NOW THEY MOVE TO YORK COUNTY FOR THE RELATIVELY I TAXES FOR NOW.
THEY MOVE HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THE BIG CITY.
FOR NOW THEY MOVE HERE FOR THE OVERALL HISTORY, CHARACTER AND CHARM OF OUR COUNTY.
FOR NOW, PEOPLE DON'T MOVE TO YORK COUNTY FOR APARTMENTS RYAN AND DH HUNT'S HOMES, AND DARE I SAY, FOREIGN CRUISE SHIPS.
I'M CALLING FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TONIGHT TO BEGIN TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE.
FIRST I CALL FOR A THREE YEAR MORATORIUM ON REZONINGS AND SUVS THAT INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING OF 25 UNITS OR MORE OVER BUYRIGHT DEVELOPMENT.
IF NO MORATORIUM THAN JUST SAY NO, THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GET INTO A FRENZY EACH TIME.
ANOTHER REZONING IS BEFORE YOU.
NEXT WE CALL ON SPENDING INCREASES ONLY WHERE WE ABSOLUTELY MUST IN ORDER TO FIX WHAT'S GONE WRONG WITH A FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY IN SCHOOLS.
WE CALL FOR A SERIOUS EFFORT TO REDUCE, REDUCE COSTS IN ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
GROWTH LIKE THIS IS NOT WHY PEOPLE MOVE TO YORK COUNTY.
SAVE OUR COUNTY FROM BECOMING ANOTHER NEWPORT NEWS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
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GOOD EVENING, LADY AND GENTLEMEN.UH, STEVE KENNEDY, 1 0 4 PENN DRIVE.
UH, STOCKBROKER BY DAY VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE CONSERVE YORK COUNTY FOUNDATION.
BY NIGHT, I WAS READING YOUR FEBRUARY 2ND MINUTES, UH, THIS WAS THE, UH, RETREAT MINUTES AND I SAW YOU, YOU HAD PUT IN THERE SOME NICE PRIORITIES, SOME STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, STRATEGIC PLAN, THINGS LIKE QUALITY OF LIFE.
MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF YORK COUNTY.
JUST LIKE MR. STRUBLE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BALANCING A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE IN WRITING.
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PROTECT THE NATURAL LAND AND WATER RESOURCES OF THE COUNTY.
YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SAFETY.
SPEAKING OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I'M JUST GONNA JUMP 'CAUSE I SAW IT IN THE BUDGET.
SHERIFFS AND FIREFIGHTERS, THE NEED OF COURSE IS CLEAR.
WHAT THE GROWTH OF OUR POPULATION AND THE EVER, UH, EVOLVING NATURE OF CRIME.
THE WORKLOAD PLACED ON OUR, OUR CURRENT SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS IMMENSE.
SAME WITH OUR FIREFIGHTING FRIENDS, COURAGEOUS, OVERWHELMING DEMANDS.
THE FREQUENCY AND COMPLEXITY THERE ARE CALLS IS UNLIKE ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
NOW, SOME WILL SAY NEXT WEEK THAT INCREASING SHERIFFS AND FIREFIGHTERS WILL STRAIN OUR BUDGET.
HOWEVER, I STRONGLY BELIEVE, AND WE'LL TAKE THE POSITION THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY SHOULD ALWAYS BE A TOP PRIORITY.
IF THE FIRE CHIEF IS ASKING FOR MORE, THAT NUMBER SOUNDED LOW.
MR. BELLAMY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL NUMBER IS.
IF SHERIFF MONTGOMERY IS ASKING FOR 11, HE SHOULD GET 11.
REMEMBER, THIS IS THE, A POLITICAL PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
I BELIEVE THE MASSIVE SURPLUSES WE'RE RUNNING YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT IS BAD POLICY.
BUT IF THAT'S A WAY TO PAY FOR THE CRITICAL NECESSITY OF PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SO BE IT.
ANOTHER IDEA, HOW ABOUT PAY FOR, BY NOT REPLACING THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING LIKE MR. HOLROYD.
OUR FOUNDATION IS NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT STAFF.
BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT NUMBERS ALL DAY.
I CAN TALK ABOUT BUDGETS ALL DAY, JUST LIKE MR. ROH.
SO HOW ABOUT JUST A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON THAT $120,000 A YEAR POSITION? NOT KIDDING.
THAT'S MY JOE BIDEN IMPRESSION.
FOR THOSE OF YOU AT HOME LISTENING, LIKE TO SCREEN ACTORS GUILD, WHEN THEY WENT ON STRIKE THE WRITER'S STRIKE.
DID YOU ALL NOT GO TO THE MOVIES? DID YOU ALL NOT TAKE YOUR KIDS OR YOUR GRANDKIDS TO GO SEE SOMETHING ON NETFLIX OR ON AMAZON? MY POINT, LADY AND GENTLEMEN, IS IT'S ALWAYS AN IDEA PROBLEM.
NEW NEIGHBORS COMING TO TOWN, DR. HORTON ASKED MR. DRURY, I'LL SEND YOU THE STATS.
WE HAVE NO ANIMUS TOWARDS THESE BUILDERS.
WE JUST WONDER WHY POLICY PUTS THINGS ON FENTON MILL ROAD.
THINGS LIKE TWO AND 3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF, OF WAREHOUSE SPACE COMING TO, UM, AN ALREADY BROKEN LIGHTFOOT ROAD.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR.
WE HAVE LOTS MORE IDEAS AND I'LL SEE YOU AT THE LIBRARY NEXT WEEK.
I'VE GOT AT LEAST, AT LEAST THREE MINUTES WORTH.
LAST POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GONNA BUZZ OUT HERE, BUT YOU NEED TO DO A, AN INFLATION ADJUSTMENT ON THE THREE MINUTE PERIOD.
PLEASE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT?
DATE IT FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN SERVING, SIR.
GOOD LUCK, BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS MORE TO SAY.
AND UM, UH, LAST UP IS MS. ALYSSA ADAMS. UH, GOOD EVENING.
ALYSSA ADAMS, ONE 11 SMITH STREET.
OH, WELL, TODAY I REPRESENT THE GROUP PRESERVE YORKTOWN, UM, THAT HAS BEEN LOBBYING AGAINST PRINCESS CRUISE LINES AND OCEAN CLASS CRUISE LINES COMING TO YORKTOWN.
WE SEE THIS INDUSTRY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR SMALL HISTORIC COMMUNITY IN YORK COUNTY AT LARGE.
THIS INDUSTRY HAS DEMONSTRATED SUSPECT BUSINESS PRACTICES AND A DISREGARD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH THEY POLLUTE.
THEIR TRACK RECORD OF EXPLOITATION IS CLEAR FROM THE PORTS THEY TRAVEL TO AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY HAVE HURT FOR THESE REASONS AND OTHERS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH TO KEEP THIS INDUSTRY OUT OF YORKTOWN.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE COLLECTED 7,682 SIGNATURES TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE IN OUR MISSION.
AT THE LAST BILL, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WAS A WELCOME TURN.
AS MR. SHEPHERD STATED, HE DID NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN IN 2025.
MR. DRURY REQUESTED MR. HILL TO INVESTIGATE APPROACHES TO LEGALLY STOP THIS INDUSTRY IN YORKTOWN.
WE KNOW THAT THE INDUSTRY HAS SIDESTEPPED OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN SEVERAL INSTANCES TO PROMOTE THEIR OWN AGENDA.
DESPITE COMMUNITY OUTCRY, WE ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS COULD BE A TURNING POINT ON THE ISSUE FOR THE COUNTY.
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AND, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, THESE, UH, CONSIDERATIONS.UM, NUMBER ONE, AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MAKE IT CLEAR TO PRINCESS CRUISES THAT YORK COUNTY APPRECIATED THEIR INTEREST IN MAKING YORKTOWN A PORT OF CALL.
BUT THE BOARD NO LONGER SEES THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AS BEING A COMPATIBLE WITH ONE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, NUMBER TWO, DIRECT YORK COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM TO STOP ALL PURSUIT OF OCEAN CLASS MEGA SHIPS LIKE PRINCESS HALL IN AMERICA AND OTHERS.
UH, NUMBER THREE, CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE AND PURSUE LEGAL MEANS TO PROTECT YORKTOWN FROM THIS INDUSTRY AND EXECUTE THIS WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY.
UM, AND NUMBER FOUR, BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY PROVIDING REGULAR STATUS ON THIS COMMUNITY CONCERN.
BEYOND THE, THE LIMITED TIME IN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, WE HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THIS REQUEST AND WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, MOVE US BEYOND THIS ISSUE QUICKLY FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION AND LETTING US INPUT.
THANK YOU MS. ADAMS. THAT WAS ALL I HAD.
WHO HAS SIGNED UP FOR TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NL WE'LL CLOSE THE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY FOR COMING UP AND SPEAK.
UM, WE ARE ROUGHLY ON SCHEDULE.
UM, AND I GOT A FEELING THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET THROUGH THE, UH, COUNTY, UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE THIS EVENING.
AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT, WHO HAS ALREADY REPORTED A LOT.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, SIR.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE WILL GO INTO A, UH, SHORT RECESS AND RECONVENE AND GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO BACK, UH, GOING AGAIN, RECONVENING.
UM, SO OUR FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING
[3 Parking Restrictions - Production Drive. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-4 to amend Subsection A of Section 15-48 of the York County Code, Parking Prohibited or Restricted in Specified Places, to add Production Drive (Route 799) to the list of places within the State Secondary System of Highways in York County where parking is prohibited.]
IS CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FOUR PARKING RESTRICTION ON PRODUCTION DRIVE.SO WE, UH, HAVE A PROBLEM ON PRODUCTION DRIVE AND I WAS GONNA START OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
SO THE OUTREACH FROM SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON PRODUCTION DRIVE STARTED WITH VDOT AND THEN OUTREACH TO THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THERE WAS A, I'M GONNA CALL IT A CHAMPION ON PRODUCTION DRIVE, A MR. UH, JAMES CARROLL OF KELLY'S CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I KNOW HE'S ALSO SPOKEN SOME WITH, UH, MS. SHE NO, UM, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, UH, PROVIDES, UH, AUTHORITY FOR ANY COUNTY TO REGULATE PARKING, STANDING OR STOPPING WITHIN THE LIMITS ON ANY PART OF THE STATE SECONDARY HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
THE COUNTY HAS SOME ORDINANCES ON SOME OF THESE ROADS, UH, IN THE COUNTY PRESENTLY LIKE BUCKNER, BALLARD COMP DEGRASS MATTHEWS TO TO NAME A FEW, UM, STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
AND AFTER ADVERTISEMENT NOTICES AND LETTERS WENT OUT, I WILL SAY THAT MAYBE WE STIRRED UP A LITTLE BIT OF BEE OF A BEES NEST ON, UM, PRODUCTION DRIVE.
AND IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE BOARD.
UM, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE BETH AND SHE'S GONNA RUN THROUGH SOME SLIDES AND SHOW YOU WHERE PRODUCTION DRIVE IS AND SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES AND, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE I HAVE SPOKEN TO, UM, WERE HESITANT TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO SPEAK, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OUTREACH OR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY CONTACT, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT COME ON UP.
BETH, OUR ENGINEERING MANAGER IN PUBLIC WORKS.
YES, I AM BETH QUINN AND I ALSO RESIDE IN THE COUNTY.
SO I, MY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE OF THE PROPOSED PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON PRODUCTION DRIVE.
YOU HAVE A, UM, LARGE FOLDED MAP IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE LOCATIONS SO FAR THAT ARE IN THE, OUR ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNTY, UH, BOARD HAS APPROVED FOR NO PARKING.
THE LAST ONE WE DID WAS ON JULY OF 2018.
AND THAT WAS FOR THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND IT WAS FOR ALL THE ROADS WITHIN THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND IT WAS FOR SIMILAR ISSUES WITH, UM, LARGER TRUCKS PARKING ALONG THE ROAD.
THIS IS THE AREA OF PRODUCTION DRIVE.
THESE ARE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOTS ARE SMALL.
THE BUILDINGS ARE KIND OF JAMMED IN THERE.
AND SO THERE IS, THIS IS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES ON THEIR LOTS.
UM, IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
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LARGE, LARGE TRUCKS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THROUGH PRODUCTION DRIVE, CARRYING EVERYTHING FROM CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT TO CAR CARRIERS TO GET BACK TO THE, UM, AUTO BROKER LOT.AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING PARKED ALONG THE SIDES, THE ROAD THAT WOULD NARROW THE DISTANCE THE VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH IN TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, THE UNFORTUNATE ISSUE IS THAT WE'VE GOT IN ONE LOCATION WHERE WE'VE GOT PARKING ON THE, UH, LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WE'VE ALSO GOT PEOPLE PARKING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, UM, CONSTRICTING IN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
UM, SO I TOOK SOME PICTURES FRIDAY, UH, WENT UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER PICTURE THERE'S A VEHICLE THAT WITH NO LICENSE PLATE ON IT.
UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALONG THE ROAD ARE POSTING, PLEASE DON'T PARK HERE, OR NO PARKING SIGNS, BUT THE VEHICLES ARE STILL THERE.
THE SECOND PICTURE SHOWS THE VERY LARGE TRUCKS DOWN ONE SIDE WITH THE CARS PARKED DOWN THE OTHER SIDE, UM, CAUSING AN ISSUE.
UH, I'VE GOT ANOTHER PICTURE OF A TRUCK THAT'S PARKED BY A NO, A NO PARKING SIGN.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THIS LAST PICTURE IS DOWN IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
THERE'S A VEHICLE THERE MISSING THE FRONT END OF THE CAR AGAIN WITH NO LICENSE.
UM, THERE'S JUST A FEW MORE PICTURES HERE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
ANOTHER, A PICTURE FROM THE TRUCKS FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO, UM, I DID TALK, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
I HAVE RECEIVED, UM, SEVERAL EMAILS.
THIS WAS THE PUB COPY OF THE PUBLIC MODUS THAT WAS POSTED IN THE DAILY PRESS AND IT WAS OUT ON, UM, OUR WEBSITE AND DIFFERENT OTHER LOCATIONS.
SO WHEN I SPEAK WITH THESE PEOPLE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BUSINESS THAT OWNS THE LOT.
SO WHEN WE SENT OUT THE LETTERS, THE LETTERS WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS MADE, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T RESIDE HERE AND MAY NOT BE USING IT, HE'S LEASING IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH GETTING THROUGH TO ALL THESE PEOPLE.
UM, HE WAS SUGGESTING THIS MORNING WHEN I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH HIM THAT WE TAKE TIME TO REACH OUT TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER AND HE SAID HE WOULD REACH OUT TO HIS, UM, TENANT WHO IS THE LOT WITH THE LARGER, UM, TRUCKS.
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD TALK WITH THEM.
HE WANTED US TO GO AND TALK WITH THEM.
I DIDN'T WANT TO REACH OUT AND GO TALK WITH THEM UNTIL I HAD DIRECTION TO DO SO.
BUT, UM, WE CAN EITHER, YOU GUYS CAN CHOOSE TO ACT UPON THIS TONIGHT OR WE COULD CHOOSE TO TABLE THIS AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT A, A LATER TIME AFTER.
IF YOU DIRECT ME TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH AND EVERY PROPERTY OWNER, MY STAFF AND I COULD DO THAT.
UM, LEMME JUST LEAVE THAT ALL UP TO YOU.
UM, LET'S GO TO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOUR.
UH, BETH, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GOING DOWN.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE YOU ABLE TO REACH THROUGH EMAIL? I'VE, WE'VE, I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE BY PHONE.
I SPOKE WITH THE ONE GENTLEMAN THIS MORNING.
UM, THAT IS THE ONE PERSON I'VE SPOKEN WITH IN, IN PERSON, NOT THROUGH EMAIL.
DID YOU HAVE, HOW MANY, HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE DOWN IN PRODUCTION DRIVE? I'VE NEVER COUNTED THEM.
THERE'S ABOUT 43 LOTS THAT THERE'S NOT A BUSINESS ON.
ONE, LOT'S A CELL TOWER, ONE LOT'S VACANT, BUT, AND YOU'VE ONLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A FEW? CORRECT.
AND WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE CONVERSATION? IT'S ABOUT A 50 50.
I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF, UM, THE EMAILS THAT, THE INITIAL EMAILS THAT CAME THROUGH WERE PEOPLE SAYING, PLEASE ACT.
PLEASE ACT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THIS, THE VEHICLES OFF OF THE ROAD.
SINCE WE, UM, PUBLISHED THIS AND WE SENT THE LETTERS, I'M NOW GETTING MORE NEGATIVE COMMENTS BACK SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD HINDER OUR BUSINESS.
UH, WELL THE TRAFFIC SHOWING HINDERS THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THE WAY THE CARS ARE PARKED NOW IS, IS UNSATISFACTORY.
I WILL ADD THAT ALONG WITH BETH.
I'VE HAD A FEW PHONE CALLS, UM, LET ME SEE HOW TO START THIS AND GO BACK.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR CAR HERE, THE BLACK, IT SAYS NO PARKING, THERE'S NO LICENSE PLATE OR TAGS ON IT.
AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, AND WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THAT.
SO SOME OF IT IS A BLEND OF, UH, UH, THE, THE PARKING AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES, THEY PUT THEIR OWN NO PARKING SIGNS UP THERE AND SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT THEIR CAR IS, YOU KNOW, PARKED THERE.
AND THEN THE, IT SHRINKS DOWN.
AND THEN THE TIME I WAS DOWN THERE ONE DAY, I GUESS THERE'S A GYM OR SOMETHING THERE, PEOPLE WERE WORKING OUT JOGGING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND THE CARS WERE CUTTING ONE WAY TRAFFIC.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, I I'VE GONE DOWN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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TALKING ABOUT.IT, IT STARTED, UH, WITH, UH, A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE ORDINANCE.
AND THEN AFTER, UH, NOTICES AND LETTERS, UH, THAT'S WHEN THE PHONE CALLS STARTED TO COME UP.
YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO RUN A BUSINESS ULTIMATELY, OR, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO MOVE THIS OR THAT.
SO, UM, ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO YOUR DECISION.
I KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN IS HERE TO SPEAK.
ANYTHING ELSE, MS. NORMS? ALRIGHT, MR. HOL.
ROB, DO YOU FEEL THAT ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD HELP THE SITUATION OR WOULD WE COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION? OR WOULD WE HAVE, UM, MORE SUPPORT? UH, LESS OPPOSITION? YOU KNOW, I DON'T, UM, I, I THINK THERE'S A FEELING OUT PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO IT BY HOURS.
SOME OF THE ORDINANCES ON SOME OF THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, ARE HOURS SPECIFIC WHERE YOU MOVE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, OR YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.
UM, MY ONLY BIG CONCERN IS, IS IF, UM, GOING DOWN THERE THE FEW TIMES I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE AND SPEAKING TO SOME OF THEM OVER THE PHONE AND THEN, UH, ONE BY EMAIL IS, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS? CAN I, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THE, I'VE SEEN THE AMBULANCE COME DOWN HERE AND IT, IT HAS A HARD TIME GETTING DOWN THE STREET.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WHEN I SAW THIS COME ACROSS MY DESK, I SAID, UH, I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ROAD, SO I'M SURPRISED I DIDN'T MEET YOU DOWN THERE ON FRIDAY,
'CAUSE I HAPPENED TO BE DOWN THERE.
I WAS THERE TWICE ON FRIDAY ACTUALLY.
AND, UH, I TOOK SOME PICTURES AS WELL.
AND WHAT I SAW IS, LOOKS LIKE MAYBE TWO BUSINESSES, UH, ONE THAT I THINK IS CAUSING THE MOST TROUBLE IS THE BUSINESS THAT HAS ALL THE BIG TRUCKS THAT ARE SITTING THERE.
UH, SOME OF THE CARS THAT I SAW, THERE'S WEEDS GROWING UP AROUND THEM.
THOSE CARS HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
AND IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT CARS CAN'T SIT ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET LIKE THAT, WE NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THAT, THAT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY'S SHOP.
I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF JUST BLANKET TARGETING THE WHOLE STREET.
'CAUSE I THINK PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET WITH SMALLER CARS THAT YOU CAN SEE AND GET AROUND, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A, A PROBLEM UNLESS YOU HAVE THESE BIG TRUCKS.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I SAW.
AND I THINK COMING OUT OF SOME OF THOSE DRIVEWAYS COULD BE DANGEROUS.
I DID STOP AND TALK TO A COUPLE PEOPLE THERE AND ONE GUY SAID, CARS FLY DOWN THIS ROAD 45, 50 MILES AN HOUR ALL THE TIME.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A SPEED PROBLEM GOING ON DOWN THERE TOO, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, SO I'M NOT ABOUT BLANKETING IT.
I I THINK WE SHOULD APPROACH THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU GOTTA GET THESE BIG TRUCKS AND THE THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET 'EM OFF THE STREET.
AND, AND SOMEBODY MADE A GOOD SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE GO TO THESE, THE GUY THAT HAS ALL THE BIG TRUCKS AND SEE IF WE CAN REPURPOSE A LOCATION FOR 'EM.
WE CAN GO TO THE EDA AND SAY, IS THERE ANOTHER PLACE IN YORK COUNTY THAT WOULD SUIT THEM BETTER, THAT HAS MORE PARKING? SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB TO DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT FOR ME, UM, I I, I DON'T WANNA SHOOT, I I JUST DON'T WANNA SHOOT EVERYBODY IN THE FOOT DOWN THERE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY CAUSING THE, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
UH, I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO RESOLVE IT WITH THOSE COUPLE OF BUSINESSES.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO'S, IF IF, IF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE PUTTING THE FORT NO PARKING SIGNS ON THE STREET, BUT THEY'RE ALLOWING THEIR PEOPLE TO PARK THERE, THEN TO ME THAT'S KIND OF AN OXYMORON BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE SEE SOMEBODY PARKING THERE AND IT SAYS NO PARKING, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO 'EM.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK, BUT I JUST THINK THAT I, I'M NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO SOME, A COUPLE OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO GET THOSE LARGER TRUCKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE LARGER TRUCKS OFF, OFF THE, UH, SIDE OF THE ROAD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE FOR ONE MONTH.
WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE.
WE WILL CONTINUE THE HEARING TONIGHT, BUT I, I THINK I'D, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS AND AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME AND DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE.
WE'LL, WE'LL, AND, AND, AND WE CAN GET THAT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO CONSIDER THE MOTION.
NOT, BUT FIRST I, I, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR, OH, EVERY TIME I GO DOWN THAT ROAD THAT CARL WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE HAS SHARED, DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR HOW MANY OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ARE PRETTY MUCH THERE ALL DAY LONG VERSUS THE ONES THAT COME DO A DELIVERY OR SOMETHING AND THEN MOVE ON? HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT? I, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT PEOPLE THERE ALL DAY LONG AND IT'S, IT'S NOT IN AND OUT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE SOME OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS ARE IN THERE FOR THE SHOP.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S NOT ROOM IN THE PARKING.
AND WHEN YOU DEAL WITH BIG TRUCKS, YOU GOTTA MOVE THEM IN AND OUT THE BAY
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AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.SOMETIMES IT'S A DELICATE DANCE, A BIG PROBLEM.
UM, CLEARLY WE HAVE A PROBLEM WE NEED TO SOLVE OR WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE PROBLEMS. ONE IS A SAFETY PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA, IF WE NEED TO GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES UP AND DOWN THERE, CAN WE EVEN DO IT? AND TWO, IT'S A BUSINESS PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPACTING PEOPLE WITH BUSINESSES.
UM, SO WE GOT TWO PROBLEMS WE NEED TO SOLVE THERE.
IT'S ALL RELATED TO, TO THE PARK.
AND, UM, I DON'T LIKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION, LIKE, TO BE A BIT MORE NUANCED HERE.
AND I THINK SOME OF THAT IS GONNA BE JUST SOME MORE DISCUSSION AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE ON, ON IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR, FOR SOLVING THIS AS WELL.
I THINK ULTIMATELY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING, BUT TOO MANY VEHICLES AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE WHAT THAT FIX IS
BUT, UM, UM, I, I THINK THERE'S MORE INVESTIGATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE AND, AND MORE FEEDBACK.
BUT, UM, CERTAINLY THIS IS A GOOD START TO SOLVING THOSE, SOLVING THOSE PROBLEMS. UM, ALRIGHT, SO IF NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE, UM, ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS, UH, MR. WILLIAM JORDAN.
UH, MY BUSINESS IS AT ONE 30 PRODUCTION DRIVE.
UH, AND I'M HERE ABOUT THIS DIFFICULTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S SOME, APPARENTLY SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A BUSINESS THERE.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS, SO I KNOW HOW THIS THING IS DEVELOPED.
BUT THE MAIN PROBLEM THAT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU FOLKS IS THE SIZE.
THE ROAD, THE ROAD IN THERE IS 12 FEET ON EITHER SIDE WITH A WHITE LINE IN THE MIDDLE.
THE TRACTOR TRAILER'S COMING OUT OF THERE, THE TRACTOR TRAILER IS 10 AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
SO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE YOU FOR VERY LITTLE ON EITHER SIDE.
NOW THE TRACTOR TRAILER IS 70 FOOT LONG AND WEIGHS 850,000 POUNDS.
SO IF YOU RUN INTO IT COMING OUT OF THERE, IT'S NOT A MINOR ACCIDENT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME THAT NIGHT.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, THESE TRUCKS THAT ARE PARKED ALONG THAT ROAD, IF YOU'LL PUT THAT PICTURE BACK UP, I'LL SHOW YOU THE PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY SAY THE WHEELS ARE OFF THE ROAD, AND THAT'S TRUE, BUT THE BODY OF THE TRUCK IS STICKING OUT IN THE ROAD.
SO THEY'RE OUT AIR IN THE ROAD.
SEE WHAT I MEAN? THAT, SEE WHERE THE BODY STICKS OUT PAST THE WHEELS.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE IN THE ROAD, THEY'RE STORED IN THE ROAD.
IT'S NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THEY'RE BLOCKING PART OF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IT'S EVEN, IT IS A VERY HAZARDOUS, DANGEROUS SITUATION.
UH, MY WIFE AND MYSELF, BOTH, BOTH OF US HAVE HAD SEVERAL CLOSE CALLS COMING IN THERE.
THE, THE ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT, THAT REPRESENTS THE, THAT MAKES IT WORSE IS THE ROAD CURVES THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING IN, YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE OF ALL THESE CALLS AND TRUCKS PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU CAN'T GET A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT'S COMING AT YOU.
SO THAT, THAT PUTS YOU WAY OFF, OFF TO THE SIDE.
IT JUST, UH, REALLY NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT.
UH, I HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT'S DANGEROUS COMING DOWN TO OUR PLACE OF BUSINESS.
SO IT HURTS OUR BUSINESS WHEN THEY DO THIS.
UH, THEY, WHEN I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, I BUY THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE ZONING THAT I'M DOING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS IN.
AND IT'S THE SIZE OF PROPERTY THAT REQUIRED FOR THE BUSINESS I'M DOING.
I DON'T BUY A LITTLE TEENY PIECE OF PROPERTY 'CAUSE IT'S CHEAPER, AND THEN USE EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND PUT EVERYBODY ELSE IN DANGER TO DO BUSINESS.
SO, HOLDING BACK AND WAITING, THERE'S SOME, ONE MORE THING I WANNA SAY.
UH, AND THIS WAS WHAT I WAS GONNA CLOSE WITH ANYWAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING IT DOWN TO JUST DEALING WITH ONE OR TWO PEOPLE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE AND MORE TIME, MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY THAT YOU HIT THIS STUFF, THIS STUFF OUT THERE IS A THREAT TO PEOPLE'S PHYSICAL INJURY AND DEATH.
IT'S BETTER TO SAY, I'M GLAD I DID THIS.
INSTEAD OF SAYING, I WISH HAD NOT, I WISH I'D HAD DONE SOMETHING.
SO KICK THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND BE SURE THAT YOU BUY THE FLOWERS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT GOT HURT.
'CAUSE Y'ALL KEPT THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS ISN'T, IT CANNOT BE LEGAL TO HAVE TRUCKS STICKING OUT IN THE ROAD.
I, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN ANYBODY SAY THAT THAT'S LEGAL? BUT ANYWAY, MAYBE THEY DO.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO, TO THIS COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
HOW, HOW YOU DOING GUYS? I'M NEW TO ALL THIS, BUT UH, JUST NAME, NAME, NAME, ADDRESS, AND UM, SHARE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT.
I RUN A BUSINESS FROM ONE 14 PRODUCTION DRIVE.
SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU'RE SHOWING ARE REFERENCING MY BUSINESS.
UH, ONE THINGS THAT CAR Y'ALL KEEP SHOWING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER OF THE BUSINESSES INVOLVED.
UH, WE DID KNOW THAT WAS A PROBLEM.
THE CUSTOMER, IT WASN'T A CUSTOMER AT ALL.
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A CLEAN SWEEP PLACE THAT LEFT, HE LEFT THE CAR THERE, WE GOT AHOLD OF 'EM TODAY, HE DONATED IT TO A WOUNDED WARRIOR, A VETERAN.UM, ANY OTHER CAR THAT'S BEEN ON THE STREET, I TRY MY BEST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEGAL AND PROPER AND THEY'RE CUSTOMER'S CARS, WHETHER WAITING ON PARTS OR SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST PICKING THEM UP OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE SCENARIO IS.
BUT WE DON'T JUST PUT THAT BROKEN CAR'S, NOT OURS.
WE DON'T JUST PUT BROKEN CARS ON THE STREET AND SOMETIMES THEY GET TOWED AND DROPPED.
AND, UH, WE DO NEED THAT SIDE OF THE ROADS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF NIGHT THEY DROP CARS FOR US.
WE HAVE TO PUSH 'EM TO SHOP, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE HAD, SINCE ME COMING INTO THE BUILDING, IT IS A LOT OF, IT'S PROBABLY ME.
UM, AND I'LL SAY THAT HONESTLY, AND I DON'T MEAN IT TO BE ME, BUT ME AND RUSTY, THE GUY THAT WROTE THIS LETTER, HE USED TO BE A CUSTOMER.
WE ARE, HE'S NO LONGER A CUSTOMER.
AND HIM AND MY SHOP HAVE WENT ROUND AND ROUND.
HE'S PUT LOGS IN THE ROAD, HE'S PUT SIGNS DOWN THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IT'S FOR THE RUNNERS, THAT GYM, WHICH AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND I'M NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING THE BUSINESS IN THE STREET.
IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY TOLD ME WHEN THEY CALLED ON ME AND SAID I WAS REPAIRING CARS IN THE STREET AND TRY TO COME WRITE ME A VIOLATION, I WASN'T WRITING ANY, FIXING ANY CARS.
THE LADY, WHILE SHE'S THERE, WATCHED THE RUNNERS WHO ARE GONNA GET HIT BY A CAR, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT, I DON'T DISBELIEVE THAT, BUT THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE STREET.
I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING.
THEY'RE RUNNING AGAINST TRAFFIC WITH NO SAFETY GEAR.
WE'VE SEEN NUMEROUS TIMES WHERE OLDER PEOPLE, WHAT THEY HAVE FROM THAT GYM ALMOST GET RUN OVER CARRYING WEIGHTS IN THEIR HANDS AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I'M ALL FOR GETTING HEALTHY AND BEING BETTER OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE ROOT OF THIS COMES FROM.
I MEAN, RUSTY WANTS THE GYM TO PAY THE RENT.
YOU KNOW, THE RENT REQUIRES THEM TO RUN DOWN THE STREET AND THAT SYSTEM NEEDS TO WORK SO EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AT THE GYM.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M, I'M NOT REALLY THAT CONCERNED WITH THE GYM BECAUSE I KEEP MY WORK AND MY BUSINESS BEHIND MY FENCE AND I EXPECT THEM TO KEEP THEIR WORK AND THEIR BUSINESS BEHIND THEIR FENCE.
AND IF THEIR PROBLEM IS RUNNING DOWN THE STREET, WELL THAT'S A PERSONAL PROBLEM.
I MEAN, I'VE TALKED TO VDOT, VDOT HAS CLEARLY SAID THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE STREET.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I'VE ASKED RUSTY TO ASK HIM NOT TO, YOU KNOW, RUN DOWN THE STREET AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY SOLVE A LOT OF THIS, THE 40, 50 MILE AN HOUR DRIVING PEOPLE, THAT'S BAD TOO.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE COPS COME DOWN THERE EVERY NOW AND THEN AND WRITE TICKETS AND I'M COOL WITH THAT.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, HEY, I DON'T NEED PEOPLE GOING PAST, YOU KNOW, 25, 30, I MEAN, SHOOT FIFTEENS PROBABLY SAFER, BUT WE DON'T GET INTO ALL THAT.
BUT I AM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
THE PICTURES THEY'RE SHOWING, I WILL SAY SOME OF THEM PICTURES ARE REALLY MIXED UP FROM THE TIME WHEN THEY WERE TAKEN, LIKE THAT ONE PICTURE THAT HAS A LITTLE RED PICKUP TRUCK, YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK, THAT PICKUP TRUCK AIN'T BEEN THERE IN TWO MONTHS.
THAT WAS ANOTHER HISTORIC OR ANTIQUE VEHICLE THAT THE CUSTOMER FINALLY COULDN'T GET THE PARTS FOR IT.
HE GAVE UP ON IT AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MOVED ON.
HE TOOK IT OUTTA THERE AND IT'S GONE.
UM, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR ANY BILL'S MY FRIEND.
I DON'T WANT ANY TROUBLE WITH NOBODY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M JUST TRYING TO RUN A LITTLE BUSINESS AND KEEP, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES FED AND CARS FIXED.
BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO KEEP HAVING TROUBLE WITH RUSTY'S AND KELLY'S CONSTRUCTION.
I JUST, I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT.
AND I, AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE RESTRICTING PARKING FOR EVEN MY CUSTOMERS COMING AND GOING AND DIFFERENT THINGS IS GONNA CRIPPLE ME A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, I RENT A SPACE DOWN THE STREET.
I DO PUT OVERAGE CARS DOWN AT, UM, THE CONCRETE GUY.
MY BUDDY ADAM HAS BROWNING, SO I'M TRYING MY BEST TO BE VERY, YOU KNOW OKAY.
WE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? UH, WAYNE WILLIAMS, UH, ONE 13 PRODUCTION DRIVE.
UM, JUST JUST TO SAY THAT, THAT, UH, WE, WE TRY TO KEEP THE TRUCKS OUT.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A BIGGER LOT.
UH, WE WOULD, I WOULD BE FLATTERED FOR FREE, ANYBODY TO HELP US FIND A BIGGER LOT.
IT'S JUST, WE, WE'VE LOOKED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO MOVE SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY.
WE LIKE TO KEEP OUR BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, BUT IT IS A, A SHORT TO MOVE THOSE TRUCKS IN AND OUT.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, TRUCKS TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE.
WE, WE, WE DO OUR BEST TRYING TO NOT TO BOTHER ANYBODY.
WE TRY TO KEEP IT JUST IN FRONT OF OUR PLACE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM OFF THE ROAD AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE DROP THEIR TRUCKS OVERNIGHT THAT THAT LEAVES THEM OUT IN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET IN THE MORNINGS OR WHATEVER WE DO MOVE THEM, TRY TO MOVE 'EM AS FAR AS OUT OF THE ROAD AS POSSIBLE.
BUT WE WILL MAKE, UH, AN EFFORT TO TRY TO, UM, KEEP 'EM OUT OUT OF THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.
WE'RE DO ANYTHING THE COUNTY ASK.
UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT.
AND, SORRY, THIS HAD TO COME TO THIS, BUT, UM, WE DO OUR BEST.
CAN I SAY YOU ONE MORE THING THOUGH? IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, SO YOU KNOW, YOU GOT BIG TRUCKS YOU ALL THE TIME OVER DOWN THE STREET TOO.
SO YOU GOT ICA DOWN THERE THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, DURING CERTAIN EVENTS WILL HAVE THE WHOLE, WHOLE WHOLE STREET DOWN STREET THERE BLOCKED.
SO I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THE ONES.
THEY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
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RIGHT.IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, IT PARKED, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TRUCKS AND TRUCK, YOU EXPECT TRUCKS, WHICH IS FINE AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PARKED ALONG THE SIDE BECAUSE IT, BETWEEN THE TRUCK AND SOMEONE PARKING.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BY.
OR EVEN THE VISIBILITY IS BAD TO SEE IF YOU CAN PASS.
AND THAT, I DO THINK THAT CHANGING THE, THE, THE RULES FOR PARKING WOULD MAKE IT SAFER.
UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S A BUSINESS.
BUSINESSES ARE THERE AND BUSINESSES NEED THEIR CUSTOMERS.
AND CUSTOMERS ALSO NEED PLACES TO PARK.
THEY SHOULD BE PARKING IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE PARKING LOTS TO GO ALONG WITH THE BUSINESS PARKING SPACES TO GO ALONG WITH THE BUSINESS.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A MIXED BAG AND I UN I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR ISSUE IS, BUT JUST REMEMBER YOU'VE GOT, I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO RESOLVE.
WHAT IS BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CUSTOMERS.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE IT NO PARKING.
BUT THERE ARE, OH, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE OPPOSITION.
THE QUESTION IS, WHICH IS THE MOST REASONABLE APPROACH? WE'RE NOT SOLOMON WE CAN'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD, BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE MORE COMMUNICATION AMONGST THE BUSINESS.
THERE USED TO BE A BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OF PRODUCTION DRIVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL HAVE ONE GOING, BUT I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD.
UH, THE NEXT TWO STEPS COULD BE ASKED FOR A MOTION AND THEN BOARD COMMENTS ON THE MOTION.
AND I BELIEVE MR. ROY, YOU'RE GONNA RECOMMEND TABLING THIS FOR FURTHER CON CON CONVERSATION.
AND SO, MR. MR. HILL, I'M GONNA GET THE PROCEDURES RIGHT, SO, AND WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION AT THIS POINT.
UH, IS THIS WHERE MR. ROY WOULD RECOMMEND FOR TABLING OR WHAT'S THE RIGHT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES HERE? YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I BELIEVE WHAT HE SAID WAS 30 DAYS.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS FOR 30 DAYS, ALLOW STAFF AND THE BUSINESSES ALONG PRODUCTION DRIVE TO ENTER INTO MORE DISCUSSION, COME UP WITH POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS OR, UH, SOMETHING, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WORKABLE FOR THE, UH, BUSINESSES.
UM, MY, YOU KNOW, MY OWN EXPERIENCES IS, IS WITH UL ROAD INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THEIR PARKING IS ALLOWED ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET ONLY.
PERHAPS THAT'S A SOLUTION HERE.
I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DEBATE OR DISCUSSION WITH BOTH OUR, UH, COUNTY STAFF AND THE PRODUCTION PRODUCTION DRIVE, UH, OWNERS.
ALRIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION WITH THAT.
LET'S, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUE TO CONTINUE IT TO, TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS NEXT PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED THREE DAYS SCHEDULED FOR 30 DAYS FROM ABOUT HERE.
SO THE THIRD, THE THIRD WEEK IN APRIL.
BOARD COMMENTS, MR. DREWRY? NO, I AGREE.
I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE, THE FOLKS DOWN THERE WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
TRY TO FIGURE THIS THING OUT WITHOUT DOING A, JUST A BLANKET SWATH OF JUST NO PARKING.
I JUST THINK THAT'S GONNA HURT SOME BUSINESSES DOWN THERE OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH.
SO I, I, I AGREE WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS.
I DON'T LIKE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD MYSELF.
I LIKE TO MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE ON, BUT ALSO DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE AND DO SOMETHING I REGRET LATER ON.
SO I THINK 30 DAYS TO GIVE STAFF TO WORK WITH MORE PEOPLE, GET SOME MORE INPUT AND GIVE US A COUPLE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS IS PROBABLY THE, GONNA BE THE BEST THING TO DO.
SO WE HAVE, WE SOLVED THIS ONCE.
WE'RE NOT SOLVING IT AGAIN DOWN, DOWN THE ROAD.
'CAUSE WE'RE TOO, TOO HASTY ON THIS.
SO, SO DIRECTION YOU WERE ASKING FOR.
SO, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS AS YOU, YOU SUGGESTED, GET SOME FEEDBACK THERE.
UH, IF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WANT TO GET TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE ON ON A WAY THEY CAN SOLVE THAT AND BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF, THEY CAN BRING IT TO US, THAT'D BE GREAT AS WELL.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDST OF IT.
YOU GO TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
SO IF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER ON THAT, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THERE.
UM, AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
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SOLUTION.I LIKE TO TARGET WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, MR. RO SAID IN SOME CASES YOU JUST HAVE PARKING TO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
MAYBE A SOLUTION IS PARKING ONLY LONG ENOUGH TO DO DANGEROUS SOMETHING AND THEN GET THE VEHICLE OUTTA THE WAY LIMIT PARKING TO YOU CAN ONLY PARK ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE LEASING.
I, I THINK THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS WE, WE CAN DO HERE.
SO, AND THEN MR. JURY SAID MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE BUSINESS CAN MOVE TO A BETTER LOCATION.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING E-D-E-D-A COULD WORK ON AS WELL.
SO, UH, I THINK ALL THOSE ON THE TABLE AND I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN ALL OF THEM.
AND THEN IN 30 DAYS FROM NOW, COME BACK WITH A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE ON.
ALRIGHT, MR. BELLAMY? ALL GOOD? NO VOTE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR IS TO CONTINUE PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FOUR TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ON APRIL 16TH, 2024.
[4 Proposed Towing Advisory Board. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-5 pursuant to Section 46.2-1233.2 of the Code of Virginia, 1950, as amended, to create a Towing Advisory Board comprised of representatives of the York-Poquoson Sheriff’s Office of the towing and recovery industry and the citizens of York County to review and consider towing regulations and advising the Board of Supervisors with regard to appropriate provisions of any ordinance pertaining to towing and recovery.]
FOR BUSINESS, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH FIVE, WHICH IS A PROPOSED TOW AND ADVISORY BOARD.AND I MEET, I BELIEVE MR. UH, CAPTAIN JASON HOUSTON FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL BE HERE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH US.
MR. HOUSTON? THANKS, CAPTAIN HOUSTON.
THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. UH, BELLAMY, MR. HILL, AND, UH, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE AGAIN, UH, CAPTAIN JASON HOUSTON, YORK POSA SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
TONIGHT I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING A PROPOSAL FOR A TOWING ADVISORY BOARD FOR COUNTY OF YORK.
UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU SHOULD EACH HAVE A BLUE FOLDER, WHICH HAS SOME INFORMATION, UH, THAT I'VE PREPARED.
UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT FOLDER, WE'LL GIVE YOU, UH, SOME STATE CODES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS BOARD.
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME COUNTY AND CITY ORDINANCES, UH, BOTH FROM SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UH, THAT SHOW OTHER MODELS, UH, FOR COUNTIES AND CITIES.
UM, SO THE FIRST THING IS THE PURPOSE.
THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD, UH, WILL PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, ON APPLICABLE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF COUNTY CODE OR TERMS OF CONTRACT.
UH, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO POLICE REQUESTED TOWING.
UH, AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS IN JUST A MOMENT AS WELL AS STORAGE OF VEHICLES, UH, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.
UM, SO HOW IS THE BOARD ESTABLISHED? SO THE GOVERNING BODY OF ANY COUNTY, CITY, OR TOWN BY ORDINANCE, UH, MAY REGULATE SERVICES THAT ARE RENDERED PERSON AT TWO POLICE TOWING REQUEST, UH, BY ANY BUSINESS ENGAGED IN TOWING, UH, OR STORAGE OF UNATTENDED OR ABANDONED, UH, IMOBILE VEHICLES.
AND THIS COMES STATE FROM THE STATE CODE, WHICH IS 46 2 12 17.
SO POLICE REQUESTED TOWING, UH, OR POLICE TOWING REQUESTS, UH, AS USED IN THIS STATE CODE, UH, INCLUDES ALL REQUESTS THAT ARE MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF A COUNTY, CITY, OR TOWN PERSON TO THIS ARTICLE.
UH, AND TOWING REQUESTS THAT ARE MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE COUNTY, CITY, OR TOWN AT THE REQUEST OF THE OWNER BEING THE VEHICLE OWNER OR THE OPERATOR OF A UNATTENDED ABANDONED, UH, IMMOBILE VEHICLE, UH, WHEN NO SPECIFIC SERVICE PROVIDER IS REQUESTED BY SUCH THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE.
AND AGAIN, THIS ALSO COMES STRAIGHT FROM, UH, THE STATE CODE.
SO WHY IS A BOARD REQUIRED? SO PRIOR TO ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE OR ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT PERSON TO THIS STATE CODE, THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY SHALL APPOINT AN ADVISORY BOARD TO ADVISE THE GOVERNING BODY WITH REGARD TO THE APPROPRIATE PROVISIONS, UH, OF THE ORDINANCE OR TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.
SO THIS IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE STATE CODE THAT BEFORE ANYTHING CAN BE DONE, IT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU THE GOVERNING BODY FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR THIS.
SO THE STATE CODE ALSO REGULATES WHO SHOULD BE ON THE BOARD.
AND THE STATE CODE SAYS THAT ADVISORY BOARD SHALL INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, TOWING AND RECOVERY OPERATORS, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SO THE STATE CODE TELLS US EXACTLY HOW THE BOARD MUST BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND RELEVANCE.
THE YORK PICO SHERIFF'S OFFICE MAINTAINS A ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST,
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UH, WHICH IS USED TO TOW VEHICLES THAT ARE DISABLED.THEY'RE INVOLVED IN ACCIDENTS, THEY ARE EVIDENCE OF CRIMES, UH, A WARRANT THAT OR WHEN THE DRIVER MAY BE ARRESTED AND THE VEHICLE MUST BE TOWED.
SO THIS ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST IS MADE UP OF COMPANIES THAT HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO WORK WITH US.
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE COMPANIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE MADE UP OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED EITHER IN YORK COUNTY OR A CLOSE JURISDICTION TO US.
UH, AND BY POLICY, THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST.
UH, THEY ARE VETTED THROUGH AN INSPECTION PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW, INSURANCE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UH, AND THEN THEY'RE ADDED TO OUR ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST.
SO IN THE PERFORMANCE OF DUTIES ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST, IF I WAS SAY, WORKING A VEHICLE ACCIDENT, I WOULD ASK THE DISPATCHER TO SEND ME THE NEXT ROTATIONAL WRECKER.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, THEY JUST SHOW UP AT THE SCENE BASED OFF OF THIS ROTATIONAL LIST THAT IS MAINTAINED.
SO THESE COMPANIES, WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 20 IN YORK COUNTY THAT SPAN BETWEEN TAB AND LIGHTFOOT, UH, THAT RESPOND TO OUR REGULAR REQUEST EVERY DAY FOR A ROTATIONAL, UH, RECORD TO RESPOND.
UH, THE PROBLEM THAT'S OCCURRING NOW IS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE POLICY PROVIDES RULES AND GUIDANCE TO MAINTAIN THE ROTATIONAL RECORD LIST.
UH, HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT SET THE APPLICABLE FEES, UH, OR WHEN THOSE FEES CAN BE EVENLY OR CHARGED CONSISTENTLY.
UH, IN 2021, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY AS BEING THE PRIMARY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION IN YORK COUNTY.
AND OUR POLICE REQUESTED TOES, UH, HAVE SINCE QUADRUPLED IN THAT TIME.
UM, THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAKDOWN FROM WHERE WE WERE AT IN 2020 FOR OUR POLICE REQUESTED TOES.
UH, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF 2020, UH, FEBRUARY, WE HAD ABOUT 18 MARCH, WE HAD 15.
UH, GOING FORWARD NOW TO 2023, YOU SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP, UH, QUITE A LOT.
AND BEFORE I CAME IN TODAY, I LOOKED BACK AT FEBRUARY AND OUR NUMBER FOR FEBRUARY WAS JUST OVER 70.
SO WE'VE GONE FROM TOWING 18 VEHICLES IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 UP TO ABOUT 70, UH, LAST MONTH.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE WHERE WE'VE GONE FROM 167 POLICE AUTHORIZED TOES, UH, ALMOST TO 800 TOES IN THAT PERIOD.
SO THE CURRENT TRENDS AND ISSUES, UH, WITH THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF THE POLICE REQUESTED TOES SINCE 2021, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE IN SUSPICIOUS FEES, UH, AND SOME OBVIOUS OVERCHARGING.
UH, BUT WHEN A CITIZEN FILES A COMPLAINT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, CONCERNING THESE TOWING SERVICES AND FEES CHARGED, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO VALIDATE THEIR COMPLAINT BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT REGULATE THESE FEES.
SO WHEN THEY CALL US OR THEY MAKE A COMPLAINT ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY WERE CHARGED, WE ARE UNABLE TO REALLY SAY THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UH, SET RULES ON THAT.
SO, MINUS THE COUNTY CODE TO STANDARDIZE THESE FEES AND THE REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOWING, UM, THERE REMAINS NO MECHANISM, UH, TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY OF THE BILLING.
UH, THIS NOT ONLY AFFECTS SHERIFF'S OFFICE TOWS, UH, BUT ALSO THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE, UH, WHO TOW VEHICLES THROUGHOUT YORK COUNTY TO INCLUDE I 64.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY, BUT IT'S ALSO THOSE THAT PASS THROUGH YORK COUNTY, UH, THAT MAY BE OPERATING ON THE SIDE ROADS AS WELL AS I 64.
UH, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MY COUNTERPARTS WITH VIRGINIA STATE POLICE.
UH, SOME OF THEIR SUPERVISORS THAT HAVE WORKED IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS SAY THAT IT'S MUCH EASIER TO REGULATE THESE COMPLAINTS.
BUT HOWEVER, SINCE YORK COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING, THEY ARE ALSO POWERLESS WHEN A CITIZEN FROM THE INTERSTATE, UH, HAS AN ACCIDENT OR A DISABLED VEHICLE, UH, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO REGULATE THOSE FEES EITHER.
UM, THESE FEES CAN EXCEED $10,000 WHEN COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES AND HEAVY DUTY RECORDS ARE INVOLVED.
AND I'VE SEEN BILLS MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT ALSO.
SO THIS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S, UH, OPINION FROM 2009.
UM, AND HE SAID, IN THE ABSENCE OF A TOWING ADVISORY BOARD, A LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY ADOPT CERTAIN PROCEDURES FOR SELECTING PRIVATE TOWING AND RECOVERY SERVICE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE SAFE AND EFFICIENT REMOVAL, STORAGE AND SAFE KEEPING OF VEHICLES, UH, INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OR OTHER HIGHWAY SAFETY INCIDENTS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR MANY YEARS.
WE HAVE ADOPTED THE POLICIES TO DO THIS.
UH, HOWEVER, SUCH PROCEDURES MAY NOT INFRINGE UPON THE AUTHORITY OF THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY TO REGULATE TOWING, AND MAY ADDRESS MATTERS THAT ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO, UH, WE HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS WE ARE ABLE TO DO WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE POLICY.
UM, AND THAT IS REFLECTED ALSO BY THE
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ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.UH, THE MISSION OF THE YORK COUNTY TOWING ADVISORY BOARD WILL BE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT BY ESTABLISHING STANDARDS FOR CONSISTENT PRICING, PROFESSIONALISM, AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR THOSE SEEKING TO PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC AS POLICE REQUESTED, TOWING AND RECOVERY PROFESSIONALS.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT REGULATING PRIVATE PROPERTY TOWS.
THIS IS NOT REGULATING, IF YOU CALL YOUR OWN TOW TRUCK OUT, THIS IS WHEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER REQUESTS A WRECKER ON YOUR BEHALF, EITHER BECAUSE YOU MAY BE IN A AMBULANCE ON YOUR WAY TO THE HOSPITAL, UM, OR YOU MAY HAVE A DISABLED VEHICLE YOU MAY BE PASSING THROUGH AND NOT KNOW ANYBODY IN THE AREA, UH, OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON, YOU'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST ON YOUR OWN.
THIS IS ONLY TO REGULATE POLICE REQUESTED TOES.
SO, UM, AS I SAID IN THE FOLDER THAT I PRESENTED YOU, ON THE LEFT SIDE HAS THE STATE LAWS, BUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE ALSO GIVES YOU, UH, A FEW COPIES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN, UH, VIRGINIA THAT HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A TOWING ADVISORY BOARD.
UH, THIS IS SOME OF THE LOCAL LOCALITIES, UH, THAT ARE AROUND US.
NEW NEWPORT NEWS ESTABLISHED THERE'S ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO IN 1995.
UH, ALSO INCLUDED THERE WAS HAMPTON, VIRGINIA BEACH, PORTSMOUTH, CHESAPEAKE, NORFOLK, AND RICHMOND.
UH, I'VE INCLUDED A FEW OF THOSE IN THAT FOLDER, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW.
UM, ALSO VIRGINIA COUNTIES WITH ESTABLISHED TOWING ADVISORY BOARDS.
I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT, UH, INCLUDE CHESTERFIELD, CALL PEPPER FAIRFAX, FAKI, UH, LOUDOUN COUNTY SPOTSYLVANIA, UH, AS WELL AS STAFFORD COUNTY.
SO THE NEXT STEP IS UPON APPROVAL OF THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD BY THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF VISORS.
THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD WILL REQUIRE APPOINTMENTS CONSISTING OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, TOWING AND RECOVERY OPERATORS, AND GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE CODE.
UH, AND THEN THE TOWING ADVISORY BOARD WILL THEN BEGIN MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS TO MAKE SUCH SUGGESTIONS NECESSARY FOR THE CREATION OF THE CORRESPONDING COUNTY CODES TO THE BOARD.
SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN FILL IN ANY GAPS? I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF A, A QUICK POINT, UH, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION WITHOUT, UH, TAKING TOO MUCH TIME.
CAPTAIN HU SAID THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD OVERVIEW MR. MR. DREWRY QUESTIONS? UH, NO, NOT REALLY.
YOU KNOW, YOU AND I TALKED SOME ABOUT THIS PROBLEM AND I CERTAINLY THINK THAT, UM, SOME OF THE CHARGES THAT ARE BEING DONE OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW IS AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN STRANDED AND OTHERWISE HAVE TO GET THEIR VEHICLES TOWED.
SO I I CERTAINLY THINK IF SOME OF THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING IT, MAYBE WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND WE NEED TO GET ON THE BANDWAGON AND MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK WE JUST DIDN'T GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE GOT TO WHERE WE NEEDED IT YET.
AND IT, IT IS COMING TO, TO THAT POINT.
WELL, APPARENTLY IF WE'RE TOWING 700, ALMOST 800 VEHICLES IN A MONTH, THAT'S PROBABLY A PLACE TO BE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
I NOTICED THAT THE COUNTIES THAT YOU'VE LISTED ARE ALL A LOT LARGER THAN YOUR COUNTY.
THERE'S NOT MANY JURISDICTIONS THAT I COULD FIND THAT WERE SIMILAR TO US, UHHUH,
UH, WHO WILL THEY, WILL THE BOARD IF IT'S APPOINTED, SET THE TOWING CHARGES AND HOW DO THEY DETERMINE WHAT THEY ARE MILEAGE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO WITH HAVING REPRESENTATIVES EQUAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TOWING AND RECOVERY OPERATORS AS WELL AS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND A CITIZEN, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THOSE OUT AS TO WHAT WOULD BE, UH, OF I GUESS, FEASIBLE TO BOTH SIDES.
WHAT WOULD BE A FAIR PRICE, MAYBE WHAT'S COMING FROM OTHER SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE ALLOWING AND ALLOWING THE TOWING AND RECOVERY OPERATORS TO PUT IN THEIR OPINION ON THAT AND WHAT THEY SHOULD BE GETTING PAID FOR CERTAIN SERVICES RENDERED.
IS THERE A COST OF THIS TO YOUR COUNTY OF THIS ADVISORY BOARD? NO, SIR.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR ENLIGHTENED ME SOME OTHER DETAILS EARLIER WAS CERTAIN EYE OPENER WHEN SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU SHARED WITH, WITH THE FEES.
UM, SO KIND OF WRAP THIS ALL UP, THIS ADVISORY BOARD, WHEN CONVENE WILL PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION AND BEST PRACTICES FOR THIS BOARD TO ENACT THROUGH ORDINANCES AND MAINLY TO MAKE CONSISTENT FEE.
A CONSISTENT FEE STRUCTURE FOR USE WHEN, WHEN YOU NEED TO USE IT.
UM, THIS TO, TO ME, THIS IS VERY MUCH A CONSUMER PROTECTION, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
HERE YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO MM-HMM.
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THROUGH CAR ACCIDENTS OR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND THEN MAY TURN AROUND AND FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE HAVE TO PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET THEIR VEHICLE OUT OF AN, OUT OF AN IMPOUND YARD.AND WE DON'T NEED TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THERE.
SO MAKING THIS CONSISTENT AND FAIR THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL FIGURE OUT, BUT CONSISTENT IS AN IMPORTANT PART.
UM, HOW ARE THE APPOINTMENTS MADE TO THE ADVISORY BOARD ONCE IT'S CONVENED? UM, THEY'RE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
IT WOULD BEANO ANOTHER BOARD THAT WE WOULD THAT.
HOW LARGE AN IDEA, I THINK WHEN WE SPOKE YOU SAID LIKE IT CONSISTS OF FIVE TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT, TWO TOWING, AND ONE CITIZEN.
SO, UM, THE FIVE MEMBER BOARD, IS THAT DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR PUR PURPOSE? I NOTICE THERE'S ONLY ONE RESIDENT OF COURSE, I GUESS OF.
AND DO OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO IT THAT WAY? SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE MORE, SOME HAVE SEVEN OR NINE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THEIR LOCALITY.
UH, SOME OF THE PAPERWORK THAT I INCLUDED IN THERE SHOWED SOME OF THE APPOINTMENTS FROM SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, HOW THEIR TERMS EXPIRE.
UM, AND BASED OFF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICES, THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED IT FROM THAT RECOMMENDATION.
UM, CAN I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THIS.
DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? MM-HMM.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 24 DASH FIVE.
I'LL MOVE ORDINANCE 24 DASH FIVE.
UH, WITH THAT COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND AGAIN, I THINK SOUNDS LIKE A FAIR THING TO DO.
I THINK IT'S A, UH, CONSUMER PROTECTION, UH, OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE WANT TO ACT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 24 DASH FIVE TO PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA TO CREATE A TOWING ADVISORY BOARD.
DO WE ADVERTISE WHO? THE BOARD BANK FOR APPLICATIONS? WE'RE GONNA.
SO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED, CITIZENS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT BOARD, UH, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR APP.
ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND FILL THE BOARD BANK APPLICATION OUT AND WE'LL, AND LIST THAT AS YOUR OPTION.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
TO CONSENT CALENDAR.WE HAVE ITEM 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
WE HAVE 11 ITEMS. UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS, IS THE FEBRUARY 2ND AND FEBRUARY 6TH MINUTES.
UM, NUMBER SIXTH STREET ACCEPTANCE FOR VICTORY AT TAB NUMBER SEVEN IS HEAD START GRANT.
APPLICATION NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE ARE TAX REFUNDS OR EIGHT, NINE AND 10 MM-HMM,
NUMBER 13 IS PUBLIC SEWER EXTENS AGREEMENT.
NUMBER 14 IS, UM, THE KRONOS, UH, SERVICE EQUIPMENT RENTAL AND SUBSCRIPTION.
AND NUMBER 15 IS THE EASTERN VIRGINIA REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL FACILITY AUTHORITY.
IMPLEMENTATION OF REVENUE SHARE IN GOOD GOD DAYS IS A LONG NAME FOR ORGANIZATION.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ITEM THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL TO VOTE ON SEPARATELY OR AN ITEM THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? NO, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 11.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY, UM, I, IT SAYS, UH, FOUR SEPARATE CONTRACTS IN PLACE.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, UH, IS THAT GIVING US ENOUGH OF A COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE? UM, IS THERE ANY MORE THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? HOW DO WE LAND ON FOUR? MR. KREGER IS, UH, PROBABLY WORKS DIRECTOR WHO HANDLES FLEET PURCHASES, SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO 10.
UH, THIS IS KIND OF A CONTRACT OF, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE, UH, KIND OF THE THE SILVER BULLET SO TO SPEAK.
SO THE REASON WE'VE WE'RE LETTING THIS CONTRACT OR NEED THIS CONTRACT IS OVER THE YEARS WE'VE PURCHASED CARS AS LIKE GM FLEET OR FORD FLEET.
AND WE ORDER, THESE CARS COME BEFORE THE BOARD SOMETIMES, AND THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE.
ONE OF 'EM IS THE ACCELERATED COST OF THE VEHICLES.
SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GET IN A ORDER BANK AND YOU ORDER THESE VEHICLES.
UM, A LOT OF THE TIMES YOU SEE FLEET CARS, LIKE YOU USED TO SEE, UH, CHEVROLET, THEY HAD THE CAPRICE AND YOU HAD A FORD TAURUS, YOU KNOW, EXPLORER.
THERE'S LESS AND LESS FLEET CARS.
NOW, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK IT'S A MARKET THING.
WHY WOULD YOU AS A DEALER OR A MANUFACTURER WANT TO BUILD A FORD
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AND SELL IT AT A FLEET AT A REALLY CHEAP COST WHEN YOU COULD CHANGE THE COLOR AND SELL IT FOR 10% ABOVE MSRP? THE PROBLEM WITH US IS WE'LL ORDER THE CARS.SOMETIMES IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET THESE CARS.
UM, RECENTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE HAD BANKS OF FORD UTILITY POLICE AND, UH, INTERCEPTORS, UH, ON ORDER, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND, UH, WE GET NOTICE FROM FORD THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA HONOR THESE VEHICLES.
SO THEY, THEY DISAPPEAR AND THEY GO AWAY.
SO NOW YOU HAVE DEPUTIES OR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY OR OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY LEFT WITHOUT A VEHICLE, OR THEY HAVE AN OLD VEHICLE OR MAYBE A CRASHED VEHICLE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO REPLACE THESE, UM, THIS CONTRACT HERE WOULD ALLOW US TO BUY OFF OF THE LOT.
NOW WE'VE TRIED THAT SOME IN THE PAST WITH, HEY, I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AN UNDERCOVER VEHICLE.
I'VE I'VE GOT A FORD EXPLORER.
CAN YOU HOLD THAT FOR ME? I WANNA BUY IT.
HOW MUCH DOES THE VEHICLE COST? WELL, THE VEHICLE'S 51 50 $2,000.
OKAY, WELL NOW I GOTTA LIKE PUT A BID OUT.
I GOTTA GET IT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO COME TO THE BOARD.
WELL, 4, 6, 8 WEEKS PASSES BY AND THE DEALER SOLD THE CAR TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND MY QUESTION WASN'T ON THE VALUE.
SO GIVES IT MORE QUESTION OF THIS GIVES US OF COM.
IS THAT A COMPETITIVE ENOUGH, ENOUGH, UH, SLATE THIS EASIER? UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PURCHASING AND FLEET PUT TOGETHER AND WE INTERVIEWED SEVERAL DEALERS FOR THE PURCHASE OF NEW VEHICLES, WHICH ARE HERE CLOSE ON THE LOT.
AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WE DEAL WITH ARE FLEET PEOPLE WE DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND THEN IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY CARS USED VEHICLES, NOT FROM THE KELLEY BLUE BOOK, BUT WHAT'S CALLED A BLACK BOOK, WHICH DEALERS USE FOR WHOLESALE PURPOSES SO THEY CAN GET THE BEST MARKUP ON, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA USE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BLUE BOOK.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL IN A GAP AT THE LAST MINUTE WHEN PRODUCTION LINE CEASE OR SOMEBODY PULLS 'EM AND WE NEED A VEHICLE TO PURCHASE.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT KRONS.
YOU, YOU, SO NOW I KNOW MR. WYATT'S NOT HERE, SO I'M KIND OF CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD A LITTLE BIT, BUT HELP ME, HELP ME A LITTLE BIT.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE MIGRATING ANOTHER SERVICE THAT WE'RE, UH, HOSTED ON PREM TO THE CLOUD.
I'M ASSUMING THAT SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE, H HUMAN RESOURCES IS THAT'S THE ACRONYM THEY'RE GOING WITH? UH, YES, THAT IS, THAT IS THEIR ACTUAL LEGAL COMPANY NAME.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MOVING TO THE CLOUD FOR ANNUAL CLOUD COST OF $83,000 FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OR THE ONE TIME COST OF 18,000 FOR THEM TO DO THE MI MIGRATION.
UM, AND THE 25% INCREASE, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING THE, THE TYPICAL 4% INCREASE IN SUPPORT COST INCREASES YEAR TO YEAR, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT I READING THAT CORRECTLY? CORRECT.
AT THE END OF THE INITIAL FIVE YEAR TERM, THEN THE 4% OBJECT WILL BE INCURRED.
SO THAT WOULD OCCUR IN THE SIXTH YEAR AND, AND THAT $83,000 ANNUAL, THAT'S THE AT THE DOOR PRICE, WE DON'T, THEY'RE ON, THERE ISN'T TRANSACTIONAL COSTS THAT WE NEED.
WE WILL NEED TO PAY AS WE, AS DATA GOES IN AND OUT OF THE CLOUD BACK TO US HERE.
THERE'S NO OTHER, THERE, THERE ARE NO DATA TRANSMISSION FEES.
THAT IS THE EXPRESS COST FOR THE 1300 LICENSES.
UM, AND THE QUESTION I HAVE, AND WE MAY NEED TO DO A FOLLOW UP ON THIS, BUT ALL THIS HARDWARE THAT WE'RE MIGRATING OFF OF THAT WAS ON PREM.
SOME OF THAT'S NOT END OF LIFE.
ARE, ARE WE, WE REPURPOSING THAT? ARE WE SELLING THAT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO RECOVER THAT OLD HARDWARE THAT WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE AS WE MOVE TO THE CLOUD? SO WE ACTUALLY ARE NOT HOSTING THE KRONOS SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
THE SCHOOL DIVISION ACTUALLY HOSTS THE KRONO SYSTEM.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DIVISION BOTH SUPPORT THEIR OWN LICENSING.
WHEN WE HOSTED JOINTLY WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION, IT WAS ON THEIR HARDWARE.
WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING A LICENSING DISCOUNT WITH THE END OF SUPPORT FOR THE ON-PREMISE SYSTEM AND IT MOVING TO THE CLOUD, THERE IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE ANY DISCOUNT FOR COLLABORATING ON THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A ONETIME COST.
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IT IT'S JUST ENTERPRISE ENTERPRISE LICENSE OF, OF $83,000 FOR 1300 LICENSES.IF AT ANY POINT WE NEEDED TO PURCHASE MORE LICENSES THAN THE PRICING WOULD INCREASE, BUT, BUT BASED ON THE COUNTY'S PREVIOUS LICENSING COSTS, WE, WE DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT NUMBER GO UP.
AND WE CAN'T MOVE TO THE CLOUD WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND SEE THE SAME SAVINGS.
THEY JUST DON'T OFFER THAT ANYMORE.
THEY'RE NOT OFFERING ANY DISCOUNT FOR US.
THEY DID OFFER US IF WE DO THIS PURCHASE BY THE END OF THE MONTH, A OVER $12,000 DISCOUNT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION FEES.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THAT REQUISITION IS ACTUALLY A, A REDUCTION IN IMPLEMENTATION FEES.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY OVER $30,000.
DO YOU KNOW WHO THE, UH, HOST, PROVIDER IS? THE CLOUD, THE CLOUD PROVIDER? I ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT BUT WE CAN GET THAT.
UM, THEN WE WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO, FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR, I MOVED THE CONSENT CALENDAR OKAY.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOLL IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
THAT IS ALL OF THE, UH, ACCIDENTS WE HAVE TONIGHT.
THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE DO HAVE A CLOSED MEETING TO MOVE INTO.
AND I WILL GIVE MS NO A SECOND TO NO WRONG.
DO YOU HAVE MATTERS TO PRESENT BY THE BOARD? BY THE BOARD? UM, WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
UM, WASN'T ON MY, WASN'T ALL MY, WASN'T ON MY THING HERE.
IT WAS YOU, YOU, YOU WENT BEYOND THAT BECAUSE WE RAN OUT OF TIME.
SEE, I'M, I I'M JUST MOVING ALONG HERE.
SO, BUT YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO IT'S GOOD BECAUSE I HAVE SOMETHING TOO.
SO, UM, WE'LL START DOWN HERE.
[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]
PRESENTED BY THE BOARD, I HAD TWO ITEMS. UH, MR. BELLA BELMY AND I, UH, RE RECEIVED A LETTER, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY FROM, UH, ROSSI CARROLL.AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST WE HAD MADE, UH, WHEN HE WAS AT OUR BOARD IN JANUARY, PRESENTING, UH, TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN ASSOCIATED WITH NORTH POINT.
UM, HE'S COME BACK WITH A FAIRLY, UH, COMPLEX DOCUMENT.
I'VE, UH, REQUESTED THAT HE, UH, SET ASIDE SOME TIME SO THAT MARK AND I CAN, UH, SIT WITH HIM AND UNDERSTAND THAT DOCUMENT, UH, MORE FULLY BEFORE WE REPORT BACK HERE.
UM, I CONTINUE TO BE, UM, CONCERNED WITH, UH, YORK COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION, PARTICULARLY DISTRICT ONE.
AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT FROM MR. STRUBLE.
WE'VE HAD, UH, 12 REZONINGS IN DISTRICT ONE.
WE'VE GOT, UH, OVER 300 STUDENTS SLATED TO BE IN, UH, PORTABLE CLASSROOMS, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE NO FACILITIES, UH, SHOWING IN THE CIP FOR EITHER OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN DISTRICT ONE.
UH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, DR.
SHANDOR, UH, PRESENT OR, OR RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE.
UM, SO MARK, IF, IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION FOLLOW UP, WE, WE NEED SOME SORT OF AN ANSWER IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS LONG-TERM APPROACH.
WE'VE GOT OVER 800 HOMES RIGHT NOW, HOUSES UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN DISTRICT ONE, BETWEEN, UH, THE NEW FENTON MILL PROJECT AND WALLER MILL HEIGHTS AND, UH, COUNTRY CLUB ACRES.
UH, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THOSE THREE MM-HMM.
UM, WE'RE SEEING SEVERAL THOUSAND, UH, FACILITIES COMING ONLINE IN THAT AREA.
AND, AND WE HAVE AN ACUTE ISSUE IN TERMS OF HOUSING OUR CHILDREN INTO THE SCHOOLS.
WE NEED TO SEE SOME, UH, WE NEED TO SEE SOME ANSWERS FROM THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
DO YOU WANT A, DO YOU WANT DR.
SHANDOR HERE WITH THE BOARD OR DO YOU WANT A MEETING WITH DR.
SHANDOR SHOULD PRESENT TO THE BOARD.
WHY ARE WE MISSING, UH, WHY ARE WE MISSING CAPITAL IN THE SCHOOL PLAN, UH, FOR SUCH OBVIOUS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF REZONING.
I THINK WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME ANSWERS AROUND THE REZONING OR THE, OR THE BUSING SITUATION AND, AND HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH THE CAPITAL PLAN? RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE VENUE.
UH, THIS YEAR, FROM FEBRUARY 26TH TO MARCH 3RD, YORK COUNTY HAD THEIR FIRST RESTAURANT WEEK, AND THERE WERE 18 RESTAURANTS THAT PARTICIPATED.
AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WENT AND TRIED THEM.
I DID, AND I HAD A BALL AND THE FOOD WAS DELICIOUS.
UH, WE, CHRISTIE GAVE ME THE RESULTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, FEEDBACK
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FROM THE RESTAURANTS AND THEY ALL ENJOYED DOING IT.SOME OF THEM DID BETTER THAN OTHERS, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS A PLUS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH, THAT COMES OUT OF THIS IS AN AFTER ACTION ITEM.
AND I THINK THAT AFTER LOOKING AT WHAT IT WAS AND TALKING TO EVERYBODY, I THINK STAFF HAS COME UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WANNA START PLANNING A LITTLE EARLIER.
UH, THEY WANNA MAKE THE, THEY DON'T WANT THE OFFERS TO BE SO RESTRICTIVE.
THEY WANNA GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE ROOM TO PARTICIPATE AND THEY WANT TO PUT OUT HARD COPIES WITH THE LISTING.
SO IT'S MORE PUBLICITY AT EACH OF THE RESTAURANTS, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY GOOD IDEA.
AND THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA IDEAS AS WELL.
I WON'T GO INTO ALL OF THAT, BUT I WANNA SAY THAT I, I, I, FOR ONE WISH I HAD GONE UP AND GOTTEN THE FRENCH TOAST
YOUR PICTURES AND EVERYTHING WERE VERY WELL DONE.
AND, UH, YOU HAD A LOT OF HITS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN GET INVOLVED, THE BETTER.
AND NEXT YEAR'S EVEN GOING TO BE LARGER, I'M SURE.
SO, THANK YOU STAFF AND EVERYBODY, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE GOT INVOLVED TO GET SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS TO DO THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR A CHANGE.
I, UM, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, DOUG ON DISTRICT ONE.
UM, I, FOR ONE, UH, THINK THAT, UH, REZONING OUR KIDS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE ELEMENTARY AGE.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I WAS FORTUNATE.
I GREW UP IN SEAFORD AND I WENT TO SEAFORD ELEMENTARY AND THEN NEW YORK MIDDLE AND THEN NEW YORK HIGH.
AND I DIDN'T GET REZONED, BUT SOME OF MY FRIENDS DID ALONG THE WAY.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, FOR SOME KIDS THAT'S VERY TRAUMATIC.
THEY SPEND THREE OR FOUR YEARS GETTING TO KNOW THEIR FRIENDS AND HANGING OUT WITH THEM AND DOING SPORTS AND PLAYING ON THE RECESS.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET JERKED OUT OF THERE AND THEY HAVE NO FRIENDS.
UM, AND THEY DRIVE TWICE AS FAR TO GET TO THE NEXT SCHOOL BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA REZONE THEM.
AND I GUESS MYSELF, I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THIS BEFORE NOW BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A PROBLEM.
AND I THINK IF WE DON'T GET A HANDLE ON IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING TO GET THESE KIDS OUT OF THESE TRAILERS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD BE TEACHING OUR KIDS.
SO I TOTALLY AGREE, UH, WITH DOUG.
AND I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR WHAT DR.
SHANDOR HAS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CIRCUMVENT HAVING TO REZONE OUR KIDS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE PLANS TO, UH, EXPAND OUR SCHOOLS IN A MANNER THAT WOULD, UH, WOULD SUFFICE TO GET THESE KIDS THERE.
AND I'VE SAID, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE I'VE TAKEN THIS SEAT THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE'S BEHIND.
THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH YORK COUNTY.
WE ARE OUTGROWING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAST AS WE CAN.
AND IF WE DON'T SLOW THIS DEVELOPING DOWN UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAUGHT UP, WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY YEAR AT THESE MEETINGS THAT OUR KIDS ARE BEING SHUFFLED AROUND BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE THE RIGHT DECISION TO EXPAND OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS OR BUILD A NEW SCHOOL OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
BUT TO CONTINUE TO, TO SHUFFLE OUR KIDS AROUND LIKE THIS AND, AND PUT 'EM IN TRAILERS OUT BACK OF A, A FACILITY, TO ME, IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING BUSINESS WITH OUR KIDS.
SO I, I DO AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH YOU, DOUG.
UH, THE OTHER THING I THINK IS GOOD NEWS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, A MONTH OR TWO AGO WAS THE CSX RAILROAD CROSSING AT YORK HAMPTON O YORK HAMPTON, UH, THANKS TO ROSSIE CARROLL, UH, HE WAS, UH, HELPFUL IN US GETTING IN TOUCH WITH CSX.
AND I DON'T HAVE THE DATE I, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DATE, BUT THEY HAVE IT PLANNED ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
I THINK IT'S SOMETIME IN MAY THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON COMING OUT AND RESURFACING, UH, THAT CROSSWALK, UH, CROSSWAY.
SO I'M, I'M THRILLED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
ALRIGHT, A COUPLE ITEMS FOR ME TOO.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SHARE THAT MRS. NOLAN AND I HAD A, UH, GREAT PLANNING SESSION WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS FROM, FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UH, MRS. FERMAN AND MRS. GOODWIN, UM, AS WELL AS MR. BELLAMY AND, AND, AND DR.
SHANDOR TO STOP DISCUSSING AN AGENDA FOR WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET THE TWO BOARDS TOGETHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TENTATIVE TARGETED DATE OF OCTOBER 1ST WHERE THE BOARDS WILL GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A GREAT, IN FACT, WE GOT MORE AGENDA ITEMS THAN WE CAN POSSIBLY COVER.
SO WE WILL, WE'LL START PRIORITIZING WHAT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE AND RELATED TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, THAT Y'ALL ARE HAVING.
UM, STUDENT POPULATION AND PROJECTION IS, IS ONE OF THE BIG AGENDA ITEMS ON THAT.
SO, SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND, AND KIND OF
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DIG DOWN INTO THAT AS WELL.SO, SO THAT'S COMING UP REALLY ENCOURAGING ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING I, I TALKED TO DR.
SHANDOR ABOUT PROBABLY BACK OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER OF, OF LAST YEAR.
SO I'M GLAD WE'RE FINALLY ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND, AND GET THAT PLAN.
SECOND THING IS, UM, FOLLOWING LAST WORK SESSIONS CONVERSATION, UH, REGARDING, UM, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR RECYCLING PROGRAM.
I HAD A CONVERS, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, SEVERAL DIFFERENT RESIDENTS TO TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THOSE CHALLENGES AND THE COSTS INVOLVED AND SO FORTH.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY EYE-OPENING FOR THEM.
AND THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE WHERE A LOT OF THINGS GO INTO RECYCLING, THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY BE RECYCLED.
AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A, AN EXPENSE FOR US THAT THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED.
AND I GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND ONE, AND ONE OF THE FEEDBACK I GOT WAS JUST SIMPLE, SOME SIMPLE EDUCATION ON, THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW BETTER ON WHAT IS RECYCLABLE VERSUS WHAT ISN'T.
AND THAT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS ON THEIR WEBSITE, THESE, THESE THINGS.
OR MAYBE EVEN A SIMPLE VIDEO OF SHOWING LIKE, HERE ARE THE TOP 10 THINGS THAT WE GET THAT WE HAVE TO THROW AT THAT ISN'T RECYCLABLE AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE RECYCLABLE.
AND JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO HAVE A BEN OUT THERE AND GO, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN PUT IN AND HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN'T PUT IN.
I THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY.
SO IF WE COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THE FOLKS THERE THAT I DISCUSSED WITH WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT.
AND NOW I THINK WE'RE GOT THE TRAIN BACK ON TRACK.
[CLOSED MEETING.]
INTOTAKING US IN A CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 A, ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD SUPERVISORS CONVENE ENCLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.