[Call to Order]
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APPRECIATE Y'ALL JOINING US TONIGHT FOR THE FEBRUARY 20TH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, CAN WE LET MR. HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. HORO? HERE.
MR. DREWRY? PRESENT? MR. ROH? HERE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO INVITE MS. UH, PASTOR ROBIN MATI.
UH, COME JOIN US FOR OUR IN INVOCATION FROM, UH, GRAFTON CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
AND IF YOU COULD, UM, CAN YOU SHARE US A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CHURCH BEFORE WE GET STARTED? GOOD EVENING.
BRAD AND CHRISTIAN CHURCH DATES BACK TO THE 1830S ON ITS CURRENT SITE.
IT'S, UH, VERY OLD RICK CHURCH.
IT SURVIVED THE CIVIL WAR FIRST AS A CONFEDERATE HOSPITAL AND THEN LATER AS A PICKET POST FOR THE UNION ARMY.
WE DO HAVE A CANNONBALL LODGED IN OUR EXTERIOR WALL, WHICH IS A, A POINT OF PRIDE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S CONFEDERATE OR UNION AND IT DOESN'T MATTER.
AND IT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN CONCRETED INTO PLACE SO THAT IT WILL STAY.
IT'S PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THE CHURCH, RIGHT? UH, WE HAVE AN OLD AND HISTORIC GRAVEYARD THERE AT THE CHURCH.
UH, THE REMNANTS OF THE BRICKYARD FROM WHICH OUR BRICKS WERE MADE FOR THE CHURCH.
AND OUR ADDRESS IS ACTUALLY BRICK CHURCH ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY BRICK CHURCH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN THAT PART OF YORK COUNTY.
SO IT IS A VERY HISTORIC, UM, BUILDING AND OUR CONGREGATION WILL BE CELEBRATING ITS 190TH ANNIVERSARY IN MAY.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR SERVICES? WE HAVE TWO MORNING SERVICES AT NINE 30 AND 11:00 AM UH, TRADITIONAL SERVICES.
WE HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON DENBY BOULEVARD AND ONE OFF OF ROUTE 17 ON BRICK CHURCH ROAD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
CERTAINLY, IT IS A JOY AND AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE.
I AM A YORK COUNTY RESIDENT, SO THIS IS VERY SPECIAL TO ME AS WELL.
I LIFT UP TO YOU TODAY A PRAYER AND A BLESSING.
EACH OF YOU IS A VESSEL OF KNOWLEDGE, OF LEADERSHIP, OF PERSONAL STRENGTH, OF CHARACTER.
THE CREATOR AND AUTHOR OF THE WORLD HAS EMPOWERED YOU TO SEEK WISDOM.
WHILE YOU SHOW MERCY, JUSTICE AND HUMILITY, YOU MAKE OUR VOICES COUNT WITH YOUR VOICES.
YOU CREATE ACTIONS THAT IMPACT THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF OUR COUNTY.
YOU MAY BE EMBOLDENED EACH DAY, AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF THAT YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY.
MAY YOU FOLLOW WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD IN THE SPIRIT OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
YOU ARE YOU WHO ARE GOVERNING.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU AND GIVE THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THESE POSITIONS.
YOUR GIFT OF TIME AND TALENTS IS AND ALWAYS SHOULD BE A BRIGHT BEACON AND ROLE MODEL FOR OTHERS.
THE ARCHITECT AND CHIEF BUILDER OF ALL THINGS IS CONSTRUCTING A SOUND AND STURDY STRUCTURE WITHIN EACH ONE OF YOU, NOT ONLY FOR TODAY, BUT ALSO FOR THE CONTINUUM OF TOMORROW'S.
YOUR WORK ON BEHALF OF YORK COUNTY SETS YOU APART.
THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE GREAT AND THEY SHOULD NEVER BE UNDERESTIMATED.
WE DO NOT TAKE THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES LIGHTLY AS WE KNOW YOU DO NOT EITHER YOU HONOR OUR COUNTY WITH YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR HARD WORK.
REAL QUICK TOO, JUST REMINDING EVERYBODY TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
NOW, I'D LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
EVERYBODY, PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOUNG MR. JAMES HOBERT TO COME UP AND LEAD US A BOY SCOUT TROOP NUMBER 1 23.
SO MR. HOBERT, YOU, YOU HAVE THE LEAD, LEAD US OFF LEAD DIVISION TO THE BODY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR HANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
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ALL RIGHT.[1 Presentation of Proclamation to William E. Townsley]
WE'RE GONNA LEAD OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MR. SHEPHERD, UM, FOR APPRO, FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION FOR MR. WILLIAMS TOWNLEY.SO I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
THIS IS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO BILL, BILL TOWNSLEY.
AND, UH, UM, I'M GONNA READ A PART OF THE PROCLAMATION, AND IN THERE I'M GONNA STOP AND TALK TO YOU AND TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT BILL THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT.
AND SOMETIMES HE LIKES ME TO TALK ABOUT IT AND SOMETIMES HE DOESN'T.
SO ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION HERE AND, UH, IT'S THE ACCOMMODATION OF, UH, WILLIAM E TOWNSLEY FOR HIS UNWAVERING DEDICATION, ORGANIZING THE, UH, JULY 4TH PARADE THAT BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND A SPIRIT OF CELEBRATION AND PATRIOTISM.
AND THERE'S A TON OF WEAR ASES IN HERE, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ THE WHOLE THING.
SO HOPEFULLY I GET TO THE IMPORTANT STUFF,
WHEREAS COLONEL WILLIAM E TOWNSLEY US AIR FORCE RETIRED AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS BILL HAS DEDICATED 27 YEARS OF HIS LIFE TO THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE RISING THROUGH THE RANKS AS A FORWARD AIR CONTROLLER AND TACTICAL FIGHTER PILOT WITH AN IMPRESSIVE 4,500 HOURS OF FLYING TIME.
AND WHEREAS COLONEL TOWNSLEY RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE IN 1994, HAVING ACHIEVED THE DISTINGUISHED RANK OF COLONEL.
JUST QUICK STORY, IF YOU EVER HAVE, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
UM, I KNOW HULU HAS IT AND A COUPLE OTHERS.
THERE'S A THING CALLED, UH, WHAT WAS IT? UH, SUICIDE MISSIONS, THIS.
AND, UH, THEY TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES OF, UH, THAT PEOPLE HAVE WHEN THEY DO SUICIDE MISSIONS OR, OR THE JOB THAT'S A SUICIDE MISSION.
WELL, BILL HAD A SUICIDE MISSION THAT WAS DURING VIETNAM, AND HE WAS, AND AS I READ IN HERE THAT HE WAS A FORD AIR CONTROLLER.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS JOBS YOU COULD HAVE HAD, MAYBE OTHER THAN RESCUE DESCENDING OUT OF A HELICOPTER.
UM, SO I'M WATCHING THIS SHOW AND IT TALKS ABOUT FORD AIR CONTROLLER, AND I WAS THINKING OF BILL AND SURE ENOUGH, BILL POPS UP ON THE, UH, THE VIDEO AND IT SHOWS HIM BEING PULLED OUT OF THE, UH, OUT OF THE JUNGLE AND PULL PULLED BACK INTO THE, THE, UH, THE HELICOPTER.
YOU'RE PROBABLY THE ONE OF THE HAPPIEST GUYS AT THAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE.
WELL, THE THING IS, THERE WERE THE FORD AIR CONTROLLER, WHAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY USED TO FLY AN AIRCRAFT, AND I THINK YOU WERE FLYING AS A DUCK.
A IT'S A, IT'S ONE OF THE AIRCRAFT THEY FLEW, BUT IT'S A, SOME OF 'EM HAS AN ENGINE IN THE FRONT ENGINE IN THE BACK.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS YOU, YOU BECOME SO FAMILIAR WITH THE TERRITORY THAT YOU'RE FLYING OVER THAT YOU NOTICE ANY SUBTLE CHANGES, AND THEN YOU CAN CALL IN THE FIGHTER FORCE OR THE ARMY OR WHATEVER TO COME IN AND, AND TRY TO CLEAN OUT THE ENEMY.
UM, BUT BEING LOW, AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY GENERALLY DOESN'T LIKE LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT THAT ARE SPOTTING ON 'EM.
UH, THEY GET CLO LOW ENOUGH, THEY SHOOT AT YOU, AND IT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO BILL.
HE GOT SHOT DOWN AND THEN THEY HAD TO COME IN AND RESCUE BILL.
BUT THROUGH HIS, HIS CAREER AND HIS TIME IN THERE, HE WAS A MODEL, UH, A MODEL OFFICER.
I'M GLAD YOU, YOU, YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING IN WORKING UP TO THE RANK OF COLONEL THAT JUST MADE YOU, YOU KNOW, MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND, AND THEY COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT STUFF.
BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT YOU WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REAL HERO HERE THAT THAT SERVED OUR COUNTRY.
WHEREAS HIS SERVICE HAS BEEN MARKED BY EXEMPLARY LEADERSHIP, UNYIELDING DEDICATION, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS COLONEL TOWNSLEY HAS CONTINUOUSLY BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, BOTH POLITICALLY AND WITH CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS, AND HAS SERVED ON ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE COMMITTEE AND THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WAR, AND WE HAVE THE REPS OF REPRESENTATIVES HERE AND WELCOME.
WHEREAS COLONEL TOWNSLEY HAS EXHIBITED REMARKABLE EFFORTS IN VARIOUS ROLES, INCLUDING PRODUCING THE PARADE APPLICATION AND PROGRAM BOOK BOOKLET, WORKING ON THE PARADE LINEUP, RECRUITING PARTICIPANTS, ORGANIZING MONTHLY MEETINGS TO ENSURE THAT VOLUNTEERS WERE WELL PREPARED AND ENSURING ALL NECESSARY SUPPLIES ARE READILY AVAILABLE FOR THE PARADE.
AND WHEREAS HE HAS ALSO COLLABORATED CLOSELY WITH THE STAFF FROM THE ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND THE YORK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SECURE PARKING PASSES AND EFFECTIVE COORDINATION COORDINATE THE PARADE AND THE TRAFFIC ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE PARADE PARTICIPANTS.
AND WHEREAS COLONEL TOWNSLEY RECRUITED MILITARY LEADERS, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES AND THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF BOARD MEMBERS TO ENHANCE THE PARADE SCOPE GRANDEUR.
AND WHEREAS BILL SERVICE INVOLVED CONSISTENT AND HEARTFELT COMMUNICATION
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WITH ALL THE PARADE PARTICIPANTS EXPRESSING GRATITUDE FOR THEIR INVALUABLE INVOLVEMENT AND CONTRIBUTION, AND MAKING THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE AN EVENT THAT RESONATES WITH THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS ALIKE.AND WHEREAS HIS DEDICATION HAS ENDURED FOR OVER A DECADE RESULTING IN A REMARKABLE AND CHERISHED EVENT THAT UNITES CITIZENS, VISITORS IN CELEBRATING THE SPIRIT OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE VALUE UPON WHICH THIS GREAT NATION WAS FOUNDED.
BASICALLY IT SAYS, SIGNED BY ME.
WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN
I KNOW YOU LOVE WHAT YOU DID, WHAT YOU DID DOWN THERE, BUT PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER WAS NOT AN EASY TASK.
AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE CELEBRATION.
THAT GUY BACK THERE IN THE CORNER, HE DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT TOO.
ALRIGHT, HERE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE REAL QUICK.
WELL HOLD, HOLD, HOLD ON A QUICK SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, UM, WE'LL START HERE ON THIS SIDE.
MS. NOLAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE? I, YES, I DO.
I'VE KNOWN BILL FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND I CAN'T EVER THANK HIM ENOUGH FOR DOING THE 4TH OF JULY WHEN WE NEEDED SOMEBODY WHO STOOD UP.
AND THAT WAS SO VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE CITIZENS HERE BECAUSE WHEN THEY TOOK THE PARADE OFF MAIN STREET, THAT WAS HORRIBLE.
BUT WE GOT IT BACK AND YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU, YOU DON'T WISH TO DO IT ANYMORE, BUT IT'S TIME TO PASS THE BATON.
AND FAIR WINDS AND A FOLLOWING SEA.
I JUST, I'VE HAD THE FIRST ATTACK ON MY HEART.
LITTLE ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I'M GETTING OLD.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND ALL YOU'VE DONE VERY MUCH FOR HIM.
YOU AS MY SUPERVISOR FOR 25 YEARS AND YOU'VE BEEN IN IT FOR ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS NOW TOO.
MR. HORO, ANYTHING MR. HO, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? NO, NOTHING MORE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. DREWRY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MILITARY SERVICE FOR FOR SURE.
AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE CITIZENS HERE IN YORK COUNTY.
BILL, I'VE ONLY HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YOUR, YOUR PARADE THE PAST THREE YEARS, BUT IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE ACT THAT YOU, YOU PUT TOGETHER AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND LEAVING IN FINE HANDS FOR YOUR, YOUR SUCCESSOR COMING UP, UH, THIS COMING YEAR.
HE'LL, WE WILL, WE WILL KICK IT OFF JUST FINE.
[2 Presentation from Commissioner of Revenue and Treasurer: Receive presentation from Sarah Webb, Commissioner of Revenue, and Candice Kelley, Treasurer. ]
ALL RIGHT.UM, A NEXT PRESENTATION IS GONNA BE A TAG TEAM MATCH WITH OUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE AND OUR TREASURER COMING UP TOGETHER, OR MAYBE ONE AT A TIME, BUT THE PRESENTATION WILL BE TOGETHER.
SO I'M GONNA FIRST CALL, UH, MS. SARAH WEBB, OUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE.
AND, AND ALSO CANDACE KELLY, OUR, OUR TREASURER IS COMING UP TO, UH, PRESENT TO US.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, WE HAVE THIS IN A CERTAIN ORDER, SO I'M GONNA GO FIRST.
WE JUST WANT YOU TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING THIS PRESENTATION.
I AM CANDACE KELLY TREASURE FOR YORK COUNTY, AND I HAVE A STAFF OF 12 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
MY OFFICE PARTICIPATES IN THE TREASURER ASSOCIATION OF VIRGINIA PROGRAM, WHICH IS EDUCATION TO ALLOW FOR MY OFFICE TO BE ACCREDITED AND MY EMPLOYEES TO BE CERTIFIED.
WE HAVE, UM, REALTIME INFORMATION AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.
WE ARE OPEN MONDAY TO FRIDAY FROM EIGHT 15 TO FIVE, AND I HAD THEM PUT OUR TAX GUIDE UP THERE FOR YOU.
THIS IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE ON THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE WEBSITE, AND I LEFT THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BROCHURE FROM VACO FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE TREASURER? WE ISSUE ALMOST 150,000 REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY BILLS EACH YEAR.
WE ISSUE THOUSANDS OF BILLS FOR EXCISE TAXES, BUSINESS LICENSES, AND OTHER LOCAL TAXES.
WE THEN PROCESS THE PAYMENTS FOR THOSE TAXES IN A VARIETY OF FORMS, SUCH AS CASH CHECK, BANK FILES AND ONLINE PAYMENTS.
MY OFFICE ALSO PROCESSES PAYMENTS FOR BOTH STATE INCOME TAX DUE RETURNS
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AND STATE ESTIMATED RETURNS IF YOU HAVE TO PAY QUARTERLY.WE ALSO PROCESS OVER 140,000 UTILITY BILL PAYMENTS PER YEAR, AS WELL AS REVIEW ALL COUNTY REVENUE WORK IN EUNICE, WHICH IS THE FINANCE SYSTEM.
WE REVIEW THAT INFORMATION BEFORE IT GOES UP TO FINANCE, AND THAT INCLUDES WORK ENTERED BY THE TREASURER'S OFFICE STAFF, AND OTHER COUNTY STAFF BY STATE CODE.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALSO MANAGE DOG LICENSES.
UH, THEY ARE $10 FOR A LIFETIME TAG IN YORK COUNTY, AND YOU CAN ALSO GET A KENNEL TAG, AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT SET OUT BY STATE CODE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE DUTY TO COLLECT DELINQUENT TAXES.
WE SEND OUT THOUSANDS OF DELINQUENT TAX BILLS AND NOTICES PER YEAR.
MY OFFICE ALSO ISSUES ALL DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE COUNTY SCHOOLS, EDA AND CBH.
THIS INCLUDES ALL ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, PAYROLL AND WIRE PAYMENTS, WHICH ARE ISSUED BY BOND FOR BONDS.
THE PAYMENTS THAT WE ISSUE ARE MOSTLY A CH AND CHECK PAYMENTS, AND WE ISSUED OVER 108,000 INDIVIDUAL PAYMENTS LAST YEAR.
WE ALSO OVERSEE ALL THE INVESTMENTS FOR THE COUNTY AND RECONCILE THE COUNTY BANK ACCOUNTS.
THIS INCLUDES ALL THE ENTITIES ALREADY LISTED, AS WELL AS SOME SMALLER ACCOUNTS.
WE HAVE THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT TO FILE UNCLAIMED PROPERTY TO THE STATE EACH YEAR.
AND I'M GONNA NOW TURN THIS OVER TO THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE.
UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.
I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE OF YORK COUNTY.
UM, AND AS CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, UM, OUR DUTIES ARE OUTLINED, UH, NOT ONLY BY THE COUNTY ORDINANCES AND BY THE, UH, CODE OF VIRGINIA, BUT ALSO THE STANDARDS SENT IN PLACE BY THE COMPENSATION BOARD, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE REMAIN ACCREDITED AND FULLY FUNDED, UM, BY THE STATE.
SO WITHIN THOSE DUTIES, UM, HERE ARE SOME OF THE ROLES OF THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE, INCLUDING, UM, ASSESSING PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES, ASSESSING AND ADMINISTERING, UM, BUSINESS TAXES.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE LISTED BELOW.
UM, AND AS YOU'LL SEE, UM, WE ALSO MAINTAIN A RECORD OF REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT VALUES, UM, FOR PROJECTION PLANNING AND HISTORICAL DATA, UM, AS THE COUNTY NEEDS OR FOR OUR RESPECTIVE ASSOCIATIONS AS THEY NEED THEM AS WELL.
WE ALSO OFFER TAXPAYER SERVICES, UM, WHICH INCLUDE, BUT AREN'T LIMITED TO ASSISTING, UH, CITIZENS WITH ALL LOCAL TAXES, UM, WHICH MEANS FILING, UPDATING ACCOUNTS, UM, AND OTHER INFORMATION.
AND BECAUSE YOUR COUNTY IS A LOCAL FILE, UM, LOCALITY, WE ALSO PROCESS STATE INCOME TAX RETURNS, UM, AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.
AND, UH, WITH OVER 2200 YORK COUNTY CITIZENS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THIS SERVICE, UH, JUST THIS PAST YEAR.
AND WE ALSO, UM, PROCESS OUR FIRST STATE ESTIMATED TAX RETURNS AS WE'RE PROUD TO ADMINISTER, UM, AS WELL.
UM, WE ALSO ADMINISTER OUR, UM, RELIEF PROGRAMS FOR, UM, VETERANS.
AND THIS CAME TO ABOUT 3.6 MILLION PER YEAR AND 380,000 FOR OUR ELDERLY AND DISABLED, UH, TAX RELIEF IN THE YEAR 2023.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM TWO WE HAVE, UM, EXEMPTIONS FOR OUR MILITARY MEMBERS.
AND THESE ARE ALL BOOK, UM, VALUATIONS.
THESE AREN'T, UM, FULLY, UM, AS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET, NOT ACCURATE TO THE BUDGET, JUST THE BOOK VALUATIONS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT ABATEMENTS ARE ALSO ADDED, SO THE NUMBER IS HIGHER.
UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION, UH, TO THE TAX CYCLE AND WHERE WE FIT INTO IT.
UH, SO TO BE IN THE PROCESS, WE START WITH OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, HE'S PROPOSES THE BUDGET, UM, FOR YOU AS THE BOARD TO REVIEW.
AND, UM, THEN THE PLANNED ADOPTION FOR IS FOR THE, UM, FIRST MAY MEETING AND THAT WILL SET OFF OUR PROCESS INTO MOTION AS THE COMMISSIONER AND THE TREASURER.
UM, I, AS THE COMMISSIONER WILL THEN BE ABLE TO, UM, ENTER IN THE TAX RATES, UM, INTO OUR TAX SOFTWARE, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO PRODUCE OUR BOOKS FOR THE YEAR.
AND THE NEXT STEP IS PERSONAL PROPERTY AND BUSINESS, TANGIBLE PROPERTY ASSESSMENT.
UM, THAT WILL BE DONE BY MY OFFICE AND IT WILL BASE BE BASED OFF OF THE RATES THAT YOU ADOPT.
UM, AND AS YOU'LL NOTE, UH, REAL ESTATE IS ASSESSED, UM, NOT BY MY OFFICE BUT BY THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR.
UM, BUT WE DO, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, KEEP A RECORD OF THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT VALUES, UM, AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE PROPERTY VALUES.
AND, UM, THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE TAX CYCLE.
THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH OUR UPDATES, OUR DAILY TASKS, BUT JUST TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE THE PROCESSES, UM, FOR THE TAX CYCLE.
UM, AND WITH THAT WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE TREASURER FOR HER PORTION OF THE TAX CYCLE.
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PRODUCED, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE HAS TO RECONCILE THE TAXES AGAINST THE REPORTS FROM THE SYSTEM AND PRODUCE THE BILLS.THE SEMI-ANNUAL TAX BILLS ARE GENERATED FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUSINESS, TANGIBLE PROPERTY, REAL ESTATE AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
AT THAT TIME, I TAKE THE BILL FILES AND SEND THEM TO A PRINT VENDOR AND THAT PRINT VENDOR WILL SEND ME SAMPLES AND WE APPROVE THEM AND THEN THEY'RE READY TO MAIL.
2024 IS GONNA BE THE FIRST YEAR ON THE NEW SOFTWARE FOR THESE PROCESSES.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE BUDGET DEADLINE IS SO IMPORTANT TO US IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT TIME FOR BOTH OFFICES TO GET THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES AS WELL AS GET THROUGH THE PRINT VENDORS PROCESSES.
WE OBVIOUSLY GO INTO A QUEUE WITH THE PRINT VENDOR AND THEY PRINT THEM AS THEY RECEIVE THEM.
SO THE EARLIER WE ARE IN THE CYCLE, THE MORE TIME THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR JOB DONE AS WELL.
I DO FEEL LIKE BILL SENT OUT EARLIER IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS.
IT GIVES THEM A LARGER WINDOW TO TO PAY.
IT GIVES THEM A LARGER WINDOW TO PLAN TO PAY AND TO REMIT THOSE PAYMENTS AS THEY NEED.
IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR UNEXPECTED DELAYS SUCH AS THE POSTAL SERVICE OR BANK BILL PAY.
UM, PEOPLE HAVE THINGS COME UP IN THEIR LIFE AND SOMETIMES THEY COULD USE A COUPLE EXTRA WEEKS TO GET THAT PAYMENT TO US.
SO THE FASTER WE CAN GET THE BILLS OUT, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE.
THE EXPECTATION IS TO HAVE THE BILLS AT LEAST 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE DUE DATE.
AND THAT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON US GETTING THROUGH OUR PROCESS, GETTING TO THE PRINT VENDOR TIMELY AND GETTING THE POSTAL SERVICE TO DELIVER OUR BILLS.
THE 30 DAYS IS REQUIRED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREASURE'S ASSOCIATION AND IT IS A REQUIRED CRITERIA TO BE AN ACCREDITED TREASURER'S OFFICE.
THAT CERTIFICATION AND ACCREDITATION ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE TIED TO SOME OF THE FUNDING FROM THE STATE COMPENSATION BOARD.
THE TIMELINESS IS ALSO ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAX REVENUE IS RECOGNIZED IN THE CORRECT PERIOD FOR THE COUNTY.
THE FIRST DUE DATE IS JUNE 25TH AND OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDS ON JUNE 30TH.
SO WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE REVENUE IN SO THAT THE FISCAL REPORTING IS ACCURATE.
SO AT THIS TIME WE WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST QUESTION, IS THERE A METHOD OF DOING EASY PAY, UH, FOR THE TAX CYCLE SO THAT WHEN PERSONAL PROPERTY AND REAL ESTATE BILLS COME DUE, UH, THEY CAN BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND AND ENTER ALL YOUR, UH, BANKING INFORMATION? SO THE NEW SYSTEM HAS TWO OPTIONS.
YOU CAN SIGN UP TO MAKE FOUR PAYMENTS BEFORE EACH CYCLE AND IT WILL LOOK AT YOUR ACCOUNT AND BASED ON LAST YEAR'S BILLS, IT WILL CHARGE YOU FOUR TIMES BEFORE THE BILL IS ISSUED IN JUNE.
AND THEN AGAIN, FOUR TIMES BEFORE DECEMBER'S BILL.
YOU CAN ALSO SCHEDULE YOUR OWN PAYMENTS AT WHATEVER RATE YOU WISH THROUGH ECHECK.
ECHECK WILL LET YOU DO FUTURE DATES IN THIS SYSTEM.
SO IF YOU GO IN THE DAY YOU GET YOUR BILL, YOU CAN SAY PAY THIS BILL ON JUNE 25TH AND THEN IT WILL DEBIT YOU ON JUNE 25TH AND YOU'RE DONE.
SO I'M USED TO THE ECHECK BASIS, THAT'S THE WAY I PAY, BUT I USED TO BE ABLE TO, TO PUT ALL OF MY VEHICLES AND ALL OF MY PROPERTIES INTO A BUCKET OR INTO A BASKET AND PAY ONCE.
YES, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A FEATURE ANY LONGER.
IS THERE A, IS THERE A PLAN TO BRING THAT BACK? YOU HAVE TO LINK YOUR ACCOUNTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSIONER STAFF CAN DO FOR YOU.
SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU CREATE A PORTAL ACCOUNT BASED OFF OF YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THERE IS THEN A SECTION IN THERE WHERE YOU CAN SAY, LINK MY REAL ESTATE ACCOUNT.
THEY LINK YOUR REAL ESTATE ACCOUNT AND THEN IT CREATES A DASHBOARD FOR YOU AS A TAXPAYER.
SO IF YOU HAD FIVE BILLS, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THEM LINKED AND THEN YOU CAN GO IN AND PAY ONCE.
BUT THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING TODAY BECAUSE REALLY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THE JOBS THAT YOU DO, BUT IT'S, I HAVE TO PRESS A BUTTON HERE.
I'M GETTING USED TO THE MICROPHONE.
AT ANY RATE, WHAT YOU DO IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HELP THE COUNTY COLLECT WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO, TO RUN THE COUNTY AND YOU ALSO HELP THE CITIZENS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
SO AGAIN, I, WE'RE STARTING A NEW YEAR, A NEW TIME, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
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THANK YOU.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
UH, PRACTICAL QUESTION, IF PEOPLE WANNA GET MORE INFORMATION, WHERE DO THEY GO? THEY CAN GO TO THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, YORK COUNTY.GOV AND THEY CAN DO A SLASH FOR TREASURE AND THAT WILL TAKE THEM TO MY MAIN PAGE.
WE HAVE A TAXPAYER PORTAL AND A UTILITY PORTAL THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME ONLINE GUIDES THAT SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THINGS LIKE MAKE PAYMENTS, LINK ACCOUNTS, SET UP A PORTAL ACCOUNT.
WE CAN ALSO HELP YOU MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ON THE PHONE OR BY EMAIL OR BY MAIL, EMAILING YOU THOSE GUIDES.
UM, AND FOR, UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S WEBSITE, YOU CAN GO UP TO YORK COUNTY.GOV REVENUE.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN FIND SIMILAR INFORMATION.
YOU CAN FIND PDFS ON A GUIDE TO YORK COUNTY TAXES AND THE, UM, EQUIVALENT FOR BUSINESS TAXES.
AND IF THEY NEED TO COME AND TALK TO SOMEBODY, WHERE DO THEY COME? THEY COME TO ONE 20 ALEXANDER HAMILTON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS THE FINANCE BUILDING, WHICH IS RIGHT BESIDE THE COURT.
SO RIGHT BESIDE THE COURTHOUSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THAT'S AT.
IT'S ANOTHER BUILDING AND TIME RIGHT THERE.
UM, AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR JOINING TONIGHT.
I'M VERY GLAD THAT Y'ALL CAME TOGETHER.
UM, 'CAUSE WHILE YOU'RE TWO SEPARATE OFFICES, TWO SEPARATE STAFFS, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO OFFICES.
UH, ONE FLOWS TO THE OTHER AND BACK AND FORTH.
SO I'M GLAD Y'ALL PRESENTED TOGETHER TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCES AND WHERE, WHERE YOU ALL SYNC UP.
UM, IF NO MORE QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANNA LET THE AUDIENCE KNOW TOO, UM, WE WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS FROM AROUND THE COUNTY JOINING US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO DO SIMILAR PRESENTATIONS.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS, UH, LOOK AT THE AGENDA, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THEM COME UP AS WELL.
UH, PROBABLY HAVE SHERIFF MONTGOMERY COME NIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT SOME POINT.
SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, UH, DIANE, DO I HAVE SOME, UM, YEAH.
[3 Head Start Program. Receive presentation from Amber Richey, Children and Family Services Manager, Department of Community Services. ]
NEXT PRESENTATION IS OUR HEAD STOP PROGRAM.SO I'M GONNA CALL ON MS. AMBER RICHIE, WHO IS OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES MANAGER FOR HER PRESENTATION.
HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS EVENING? GOOD EVENING.
BOARD YORK COUNTY TEAM AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I AM AMBER RICHIE, AND I AM YORK COUNTY'S CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES MANAGER.
AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE HEAD START DIRECTOR.
YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS A HEAD START GRANT RECIPIENT AGENCY.
WE HAVE DONE VERY, VERY WELL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS SERVING A NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, ENSURING THAT THEY ARE PREPARED FOR SCHOOL AS A RECIPIENT AGENCY.
THERE ARE SOME DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD, AND SO I'M GONNA SHARE SOME OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.
RESPONSIBILITIES THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS PROVIDE SOME UPDATES REGARDING OUR PROGRAM.
WE HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY LUCKY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO HAVE A BOARD SUPERVISORS LIAISON SERVE ON OUR POLICY COUNCIL.
WE HAD MS. SHEILA NOLL, MR. R, AND SO WE ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED, EXCITED TO WELCOME MR.
HE WILL BE SERVING ON THE POLICY COUNCIL AND HE WILL BE ATTENDING HIS FIRST MEETING TOMORROW.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE BOARD MUST REVIEW AND APPROVE.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, YOU ALL HAVE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE HOW WE RECRUIT, SELECT, AND ENROLL STUDENTS.
NEXT MONTH, YOU WILL RECEIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING OUR GRANT APPLICATION THAT IS DUE TO THE OFFICE OF HEAD START TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED FUNDING FOR THE COMING YEAR.
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING THAT THROUGH A RESOLUTION PROCESS.
THAT IS HOW WE DO IT HERE AT YORK COUNTY.
THE GRANT APPLICATION PACKET WILL INCLUDE NARRATIVE INFORMATION REGARDING THE SERVICES THAT WE PLAN TO OFFER NEXT YEAR, AS WELL AS OUR BUDGET, OUR PROGRAM GOALS, AND OUR SELF-ASSESSMENT REPORT.
REGARDING THE FEDERAL AUDIT FINDINGS AND CORRECTIONS.
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR RE REVIEWING THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT INTERNAL CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE AS WELL AS ANY POLICIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE RELATED TO PERSONNEL AND THE INTERNAL DISPUTE PROCESS.
SO ELIGIBILITY, WHO DO WE SERVE? WE DO TARGET THOSE FAMILIES IN YORK COUNTY THAT, UM, WHOSE INCOME IS BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE.
I DID LIST THAT THERE FOR IN THE INDIVIDUAL.
FOR ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN THE CURRENT POVERTY GUIDELINES FOR THIS YEAR, CHILDREN AGAIN, THEY MUST RESIDE IN YOUR COUNTY, BE AGES BETWEEN THE AGES OF THREE AND FOUR.
UM, WE DO SERVE SOME FIVE YEAR OLDS, BUT THEY CANNOT BE AGE ELIGIBLE FOR SCHOOL.
WE TARGET FAMILIES WHO RECEIVE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
THOSE FAMILIES THAT RECEIVE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT'S SSI, TANA FOR FOOD STAMPS, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM
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AS WELL AS THOSE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN FOSTER CARE OR THAT ARE HOMELESS.WE DO RESERVE SOME OF MAINLY OUR OVER INCOME SLOTS FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES.
10% OF OUR ENROLLMENT MUST BE CHILDREN THAT HAVE A DIAGNOSED DISABILITY.
ONE GREAT THING ABOUT OUR PROGRAM FOR CONTINUITY, THAT ONCE A CHILD IS FOUND ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM, THEY REMAIN ELIGIBLE THAT PROCEEDING YEAR.
IT'S ONLY AFTER THE THIRD YEAR THAT WE HAVE TO REVERIFY THEIR ELIGIBILITY PROGRAM DEMOGRAPHICS.
SO I HAVE LISTED OUR TEAM, OUR HEAD START TEAM, UM, WITHIN OUR DIVISION AS WELL AS OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT.
OUR FIRST LOCATION IS AT THE GRIFFIN GATES LOCATION.
WE HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS THERE WHERE WE SERVE 40 STUDENTS.
WE HAVE A CLASSROOM AT YORKTOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT'S OUR YORKTOWN HEAD START.
OUR BETHEL MANOR HEAD START, UM, HAS TWO CLASSROOMS AND WE SERVE A TOTAL OF 29 STUDENTS.
SO OUR TOTAL FUNDED ENROLLMENT IS 87.
I DID LIST SOME CURRENT, UM, DEMOGRAPHICS FOR OUR PROGRAM AS OF JANUARY 31ST.
THE TOP ROW JUST OUTLINES HOW CHILDREN WERE FOUND ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF OUR FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE DO RECEIVE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN AGAIN, THOSE THAT, UM, FAMILIES WHOSE INCOME FALLS BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE.
WE HAD AS OF JANUARY 31ST, 64 CHILDREN ENROLLED IN OUR PROGRAM.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES, PARENTS THAT ARE EMPLOYED OR THAT, UM, ARE IN SCHOOL, PARENTS THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED NOT IN SCHOOL.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SMALL POPULATION OF FAMILIES THAT ARE MILITARY AFFILIATED AND THEY PRIMARILY RESIDE NEAR THE BETHEL MANOR LOCATION PROGRAM.
WE ARE A PREMIER EARLY EDUCATION PROGRAM.
UM, WE ARE SET APART FROM OTHER CHILDCARE PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE.
UM, ONE GREAT THING THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT OUR PROGRAM IS THAT WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR PARENT ENGAGEMENT AND THE FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES THAT WE OFFER.
WE PROVIDE INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT WITH OUR FAMILIES TO WORK TOWARDS IDENTIFYING THOSE GOALS THAT THEY MAY HAVE AND THE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS THAT THEY MAY NEED TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS SO THEY CAN BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT.
OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN ARE READY FOR SCHOOL AND FOR A LIFELONG LEARNING.
UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER EXTENDED CARE SERVICES.
OUR HOURS, OUR CORE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FROM EIGHT 30 TO THREE O'CLOCK, AND THEN FROM THREE TO FIVE, THOSE FAMILIES THAT ARE ENROLLED ARE, THAT ARE ENROLLED AT OUR GRIFFIN GATES LOCATION THAT ARE WORKING OR THAT MAY BE IN SCHOOL.
THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR EXTENDED CARE SERVICES FROM THREE TO FIVE.
WE ARE AN APPROVED CHILDCARE SUBSIDY VENDOR, SO THOSE HOURS ARE SEPARATE FROM OUR GRANT.
WE RECEIVE AND ACCEPT SUBSIDY PAYMENT TO COVER THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE OFFER A HOST OF ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT FAMILIES AND TO SYSTEM IN THE TRANSITION PROCESS, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR PROGRAM OR THEY'RE LEAVING OUR PROGRAM, GOING TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
WE OFFER TRANSITION ACTIVITIES BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS DURING THE SUMMER FOR OUR PRESCHOOLERS.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO INVITE THEM IN TO SOCIALIZE WITH THEIR FRIENDS, OFFER OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES, AND TO PROVIDE THEM WITH EDUCATION INFORMATION FOR THEIR NEXT SETTING.
WE HAVE SEEN SINCE COVID AN INCREASE IN BEHAVIORS AND A NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SUPPORT.
SO WE WERE REALLY, REALLY GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN ADD A MENTAL HEALTH POSITION.
THAT MENTAL HEALTH PERSON, WHICH IS OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD INTERVENTION SPECIALIST, WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TEACHERS, UM, ADDITIONAL OFFICE STAFF SUCH AS FAMILY SERVICE STAFF AND FAMILIES AND OUTSIDE PROVIDERS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING AND ADDRESSING THE SOCIAL EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND WELLBEING OF OUR STUDENTS.
THIS PAST YEAR WE ADDED A LEARNING, A DIGITAL LEARNING PLATFORM, IGNITE BY HATCH, WHICH OUR FAMILIES HAVE REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED.
WHERE CHILDREN CAN, UM, UTILIZE THE APP TO ENGAGE IN SOME FUN LEARNING ACTIVITIES, WHETHER THEY'RE IN SCHOOL OR AT HOME.
AND TEACHERS OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION TO ASSESS CHILDREN'S DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, AS WELL AS USE THAT INFORMATION, UM, TO INDIVIDUALIZED APPROACHES THAT ARE USED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF EACH CHILD.
UM, WE HAVE ENSURED, UM, PART OF HEAD START IS WE HAVE SCREENING AND HEALTH, UH, DEVELOPMENTAL SCREENING AND HEALTH SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO WE HAVE ENSURED THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT THEY HAVE MEDICAL AND DENTAL HOME, THEIR SHOTS ARE UP TO DATE AND THAT THOSE HEALTH SCREENINGS ARE COMPLETED.
AND HERE LISTED ARE A FEW OF THOSE SCREENINGS THAT WE COMPLETE.
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WE OF COURSE CANNOT DO IT ALONE.WE'RE REALLY, REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE SOME GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
I HAVE LISTED SOME OF OUR KEY PARTNERS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR PROGRAM AND HAS ASSISTED US IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN.
WE HAVE A GREAT CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PENINSULA FOOD BANK AS WELL AS ZION UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, OLDTOWN MEDICAL.
WE WERE REALLY, REALLY LUCKY THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE, UM, A GRANT A FEW YEARS AGO TO ASSIST US IN OUR LEAD SCREENINGS.
THEY ALSO CONDUCT OUR DENTAL SCREENINGS, LIONS CLUB.
THEY CONDUCT, UM, OUR VISION SCREENINGS.
ABUNDANT LIFE PARTNERS IS CURRENTLY OUR MENTAL HEALTH CONTRACTOR.
KIWANIS HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL IN US IMPLEMENTING OUR LITERACY PROGRAM.
UM, THE VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, OUR NUTRITION CURRICULUM, VIRGINIA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
YORK PROPOSED SOME SOCIAL SERVICES AS WELL AS THE HOUSING, UM, AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.
THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL IN ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR HOMELESS FAMILIES.
SO WE'RE REALLY THANKFUL TO ABBOTT AND HIS TEAM AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY CHRISTOPHER NEWPORT, AND THEN OF COURSE THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD AS WE KNOW THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES CHANGE.
WE CONDUCT A COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT EVERY YEAR JUST TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THOSE NEEDS THAT ASSIST US IN DETERMINING THE SERVICES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
AND WE OUTLINE THOSE THINGS IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION.
WE KNOW THAT THE JOB MARKET IS VERY CHALLENGING.
UM, AS A RESULT, I KNOW THAT WE ENCOUNTERED SOME STAFFING CHALLENGES, UM, IN WHICH WE HAD TO DELAY OPENING SOME CLASSROOMS. BUT WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH HUMAN RESOURCES AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS AT, UM, THE, AT THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY AND, UM, CHRISTOPHER NEWPORT TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES THAT WE HAD SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO OPEN THOSE CLASSROOMS MAINTAINING FULL ENROLLMENT.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE CLASSROOMS OPENED, WE ARE WORKING ON A PLAN TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAIN FULL ENROLLMENT BECAUSE THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF OUR HEAD START APPLICATION.
UM, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR TRAINING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE OUTLINING THOSE ACTION STEPS AND THOSE STRATEGIES SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ENSURE THAT WE'RE FULLY ENROLLED MOVING FORWARD.
HEAD START DID COME OUT WITH, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME UPDATES TO OUR, UM, HEAD START PROGRAM PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, OUR REGULATIONS.
AND WITH THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK CLOSELY WITH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY TO SEE WHAT CHANGES OR REVISIONS THAT WE MAY NEED TO DO, UM, TO OUR PROGRAM BASED ON HEAD START.
FOCUSING ON WORKFORCE WAGES AND SUPPORTS, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ELIGIBILITY AND BARRIERS TO ACCESS THE RATIO AND DURATION LED EXPOSURE AND THE CASELOAD FOR OUR FAMILY SERVICE STAFF AND CHILD SAFETY.
I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE HEAD START PROGRAM.
WE'VE RECEIVED TONS, A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR FAMILIES IN REFERENCE TO JUST SHOWING THEIR APPRECIATION BASED ON OUR WORK WITH THEM, THEIR CHILDREN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MS? NO, AMBER, THAT'S A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND OH, I PRESS THE BUTTON THERE NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND YOU'VE DONE A TERRIFIC JOB SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
UH, I ALWAYS ASK THIS QUESTION, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE ON A WAITING LIST? YES MA'AM.
AND I DID WRITE THAT DOWN BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE.
BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE A QUESTION.
UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A WAITING LIST AND SOME OF THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE ON OUR WAITING LIST ARE SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BASED ON, UM, OUR TARGET POPULATION AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF SLOTS AND OUR REQUIREMENT FOR ENROLLING.
SO MOST TIMES WHEN WE HAVE A OVER INCOME FAMILY, WE REFER THEM TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM 'CAUSE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SERVE THEM BASED ON THEIR INCOME.
UM, CURRENTLY ON OUR WAITING LIST, WE DO HAVE 24 ELIGIBLE FAMILIES.
SO WE JUST CURRENTLY, OUR LAST CLASSROOM OPENED ON FEBRUARY 5TH.
SO I'M REALLY, REALLY GLAD ABOUT THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE FIVE OPEN CLASSROOMS. MM-HMM.
AND WE CURRENTLY ARE, UM, SELECTING CHILDREN, IDENTIFYING CHILDREN TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FILLING ALL OF OUR VACANT ENROLLMENT SLOTS.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT JOINING YOU TOMORROW AT POLICY COUNCIL.
I BE THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH HEADSTART IN YORKTOWN.
UM, I'VE, I'VE BEEN READING TO CHILDREN IN JCC IN WILLIAMSBURG IN FOUR LOCATIONS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW.
UH, SO I LIKE, I I LIKE THE FACT THAT I'M SWITCHING ALLEGIANCE HERE.
I, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL THE, THOSE THAT ARE COMING IN WITH THE CLASS CLASSES AND TEACHERS YOU HAVE NOW? YES.SO WE DO HAVE A WAITING LIST AND WE HAVE 24 ELIGIBLE FAMILIES ON THE WAITING LIST.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE 64 ENROLLED AS OF JANUARY 31ST WITH OUR NEW CLASSROOMS OPENING.
WE ARE WORKING TO FILL ALL OF THOSE SLIDES BECAUSE WE DID HAVE APPROXIMATELY 26 SLOTS THAT WE NEEDED TO FILL.
AND SO, UM, WE WERE CONDUCTING SOME ADDITIONAL INTAKES AND DOING SOME ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP TODAY THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME CHILDREN REMAINING ON THE WAIT LIST.
UM, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS OUR CURRENT LEADERS.
UM, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR CHILDCARE IN YORK COUNTY.
WE DO HAVE A LOW PERCENTAGE OF POVERTY IN THE COUNTY, WHICH LIMITS THE FAMILIES THAT WE CAN SERVE.
AND SO KNOWING THE BENEFIT OF EARLY EDUCATION, WE ARE WORKING ON SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COUNTY TO SERVE AS MANY CHILDREN AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHILDREN IN NEED ON THE WAITING LIST THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SERVE.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, DEPENDING ON SPACE AND TEACHING OR THE TEACHERS.
IS IT MORE TEACHERS THAT YOU NEED OR MORE SPACE? MM-HMM.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE FILLED, WE HAVE OPENED ALL OF OUR CLASSROOMS. UM, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 1490 GOVERNMENT ROAD AND WE DO HAVE CLASSROOM SPACE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE IF WE WANTED TO EXPAND OUR SERVICES TO REACH MORE CHILDREN.
UM, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE TO DEVELOP A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT ONCE WE OPEN THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THOSE FAMILIES TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
SO OUR CLASSROOMS ARE OPEN, THE FIVE CLASSROOMS THAT WE HAVE ARE OPEN AND WE'RE WORKING ON FILLING ALL OF THE, THE REST OF THE VACANT SPOTS THAT WE HAVE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO.
IT WILL INCLUDE FUNDING SUPPORT, UM, FROM THE COUNTY.
SO WE THAT FOR THE RECORD, DETERMINE THE STEPS THAT WE'LL NEED TO TAKE.
THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO OPEN UP THOSE CLASSROOMS. 'CAUSE THERE IS A NEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SHEPHERD.
PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM BUTTON ON THE RIGHT, NOT THE SCREEN DOWN THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND, UH, YOUR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK.
UM, LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE, UH, I WAS SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF, UM, MILITARY PERSONNEL THAT WERE, UH, USING THE, UH, HEAD START PROGRAM.
UH, DO YOU STILL HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF MILITARY FOLKS THERE? MM-HMM.
UM, AGAIN, UH, WE WORK VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, VPI.
AND SO TOGETHER WE WORK TO FILL SLOTS, WHETHER IT IS THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM OR THROUGH OUR PROGRAM.
WE, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE FAMILIES, UM, ON OUR WAITING LIST, WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, SIGNED UP FOR OUR GRIFF YEARS LOCATION, YORKTOWN OR BETHEL MANOR LOCATION THAT NEED TO BE SERVED.
SO WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE SOME MILITARY FAMILIES ON OUR WAITING LIST.
HOWEVER, WHEN FAMILIES ARE ON OUR WAITING LIST, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH RESOURCES AND INFORMATION OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO THEM OR THAT MAY FIT THEIR NEED, BE A BETTER FIT FOR THEM.
UM, UM, NOW THE NAVY FOLKS THAT ARE THERE STILL HAVE TO MEET THE FUNDING, UH, OR SALARY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE 100%, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 15,000 FOR A SINGLE PERSON, UH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS NOT MUCH AT ALL.
UM, SO WHAT IS IT? UH, SO IS IT, IS IT BASED? A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET THESE IN, UH, CRITERIA THEY'RE LIKE 200% OR 300% OF THE, THE POVERTY LEVEL.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE MM-HMM.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? MM-HMM.
SO OUR TARGET POPULATION ARE THOSE FAMILIES WHO INCOME FALLS A HUNDRED PERCENT BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE.
THAT IS OUR TARGET POPULATION, WHICH THE, UM, WORKSHEET, THE CHART THAT I LISTED, IT HAS TO BE UNDER THAT AMOUNT.
YOU CANNOT BE SO UNDER A HUNDRED PERCENT OR 200% UNDER MM-HMM.
UM, THAT IS OUR INITIAL TARGET POPULATION.
THEN WE CAN ENROLL ADDITIONAL FAMILIES THAT ARE 1 0 1 TO ONE 30 ABOVE THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE.
AND THEN 1 31 AND ABOVE BECAUSE, UM, WE CAN ONLY HAVE 10% OF OVER INCOME FAMILIES.
AND THAT IS THOSE FAMILIES WHOSE INCOME IS ONE OF 30 131% OR MORE.
THAT, UM, WE USE THOSE SLOTS BECAUSE 10%,
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IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR, UH, FUND ENROLL ENROLLMENT BEING 87, WE CAN ONLY HAVE NINE FAMILIES WHOSE INCOME IS OVER 131% OVER THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE.AND WE RESERVE THOSE PRIMARILY FOR OUR DIS DIS UH, CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE WE KNOW MIL A LOT OF FAMILIES WHOSE INCOME IS ABOVE THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE HAVE CHILDREN WITH A DISABILITY.
SO LOOKING AT THAT FAIRLY LOW SALARY, UM, ONE WOULD WONDER IF THEY EVEN HAVE A CAR TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE TO THIS.
DO YOU HAVE A BUS STOP SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE YOU ARE? MM-HMM.
BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE PARTNER WITH, UM, YORK COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION TO CONTRACT WITH THEM TO PROVIDE BUS TRANSPORTATION.
SO THOSE FAMILIES THAT MAY LIVE NEAR YORKTOWN ELEMENTARY THAT NEED TRANSPORTATION, WE MAY ENROLL THEM AT GRIFFIN YATES LOCATION JUST BASED ON TRANSPORTATION BEING AVAILABLE.
SO THE PARENT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO RIDE THE BUS WITH, TO, WITH THE STUDENT.
I MEAN, YOU GOT ONLY THREE THREE AND THE FIVE YEAR OLDS ON THE BUS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA PUT 'EM ON A BUS BY THEMSELVES.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE ON THE BUS BY, NOT QUITE BY THEMSELVES, BUT PARENTS TRUST US JUST BASED ON THE SAFEGUARDS AND PRECAUTIONS THAT WE TAKE.
BUT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THE BUS WITH CHILDREN AT ALL TIMES.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR BUS DRIVER AND TWO BUS ASSISTANCE.
SO YOU HAVE THREE STAFF THERE WITH CHILDREN AND THEY, UM, HAVE TO HAVE, BE HARNESSED.
SO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU MS. AMBER COMING UP SPEAKING TONIGHT AND SHARING THE INFORMATION.
UM, IT'S BEEN ONE OF MY PRIVILEGES THE PAST THREE YEARS TO SERVE WITH YOU IN THE POLICY COUNCIL FOR THE STAR PROGRAM.
UM, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF'S ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM.
THERE ARE MANY OBLIGATIONS AND EXPECTATIONS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET BEING A, BEING A FEDERAL GRANTEE, UM, AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR I'S DOTTED AND YOUR T'S CROSSED.
AND IN THE THREE YEARS THAT, THAT WE WORKED TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER ASKED YOU A QUESTION THAT YOU COULDN'T GIMME A CHAPTER AND VERSE ON.
SO YOU'RE VERY WELL VERSED IN IT.
YOU RUN A GREAT SHIP, GREAT PROGRAM, AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST A, THAN JUST, JUST DAYCARE.
AND I REALLY LOVE THE ASPECT OF THE WHOLE FAMILY, UM, APPROACH TO, TO CARING FOR, FOR EVERYBODY AND ENABLING THESE KIDS TO GET THE HEAD START THAT THEY NEED.
SO THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN SCHOOL AND FOR THE, FOR THE KIDS AND THE FAMILIES TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT IS A, THAT IS A GREAT APPROACH AND THAT'S A GREAT OBJECTIVE TO HAVE.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND YOU'VE GOT GREAT HANDS WITH MR. ROY NOW TAKING OVER.
[CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]
RIGHT.SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD.
SO LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, 13 FOLKS SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
SO TO KEEP THE THINGS MOVING, I'M GONNA CALL THE FIRST PERSON AND I'M GONNA CALL THE SECOND PERSON TO KIND OF STAND UP BY THE DOOR TO READY TO STAND UP.
UM, SO KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE.
AFTER YOU, UH, SHARE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, LIGHT WILL GO GREEN FOR YOU.
WHEN YOU GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT, IT'LL GO YELLOW AND AT RED WE'LL NEED Y'ALL TO WRAP UP.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA LAY OFF MR. STEVE KENNEDY AND WE'RE GONNA, AND MS. MS LOWER ON, ON DECK PLAN.
WELL THEN WOW, THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA LEAD OFF MISS, MISS, UH, LAURA WORSENING.
AND, AND ERICA MITCHELL WILL BE NEXT.
I LIVE AT FOUR 10 OLD LAKESIDE DRIVE IN THE DARE SECTION OF YORK COUNTY.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO APPEAL AND ONCE AGAIN ASK HELP THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE ELDER POPULATION OF OUR LOVELY COUNTY.
I HAVE ATTENDED THE SENIOR CENTER FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I HAVE PARTICIPATED AND ENJOYED THE MANY ACTIVITIES OFFERED THERE WHILE ATTENDING.
AND I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO FELLOW ELDERS THROUGH THE YEARS WHO HAD NO WAY OF GETTING THERE.
I'M REACHING A TIME IN MY LIFE THAT I WILL SEE THAT I CAN LOSE MY ABILITY TO DRIVE MYSELF AND OTHERS TO THE CENTER.
THIS SADS ME AS I REALLY ENJOY THE EXERCISES, THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERED, THE EDUCATION THAT KEEPS ME UP TO DATE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THIS TECH WORLD, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
THE BOARD CONSIDERS TRANSPORTATION
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FOR THE CITIZENS, AND I FEEL THIS WOULD BE HELPING TO DEFER DEPRESSION AND AFFORD BETTER HEALTH ISSUES AND ACTIVITIES TO UPLIFT US.WE ELDERS NEED THIS SERVICE AND DESERVE TO BE RESPECTED AND CARED FOR AS THE ELDERS OF THIS YORK COUNTY THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH, DON'T PASS US BY.
GIVE US THE MEANS TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY OUR LIVES.
AND, UH, THEN WE HAVE D DAVIS.
MY NAME IS ERICA MITCHELL AND I LIVE AT 1 0 6 COVE CRESCENT HERE IN YORK COUNTY.
I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO AGAIN LOBBY FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE YORK COUNTY SENIOR CITIZENS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE DOOR TO DOOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE LONG-TERM CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY, WHO CAN NO LONGER DRIVE THEMSELVES TO THE SENIOR CENTER.
THE SENIOR CENTER HAS MANY ENRICHING PROGRAMS THAT OUR MEMBERS WANT TO CONTINUE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF.
WITHOUT THIS SERVICE, THEY WILL BE LEFT HOME ALONE WITHOUT SOCIAL STIMULATION AND OR ADULT DAILY INTERACTION.
WE ORIGINALLY APPROACHED THE YORK COUNTY SENIOR CENTER BOARD AND REQUESTED ASSISTANCE OVER A YEAR AGO TO NO AVAIL.
LAST SUMMER AN ARTICLE APPEARED IN THE DAILY PRESS, WHICH OUTLINED A RIDESHARE PROGRAM PILOT PROGRAM.
WHILE TALKING WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA TRANSIT AUTHORITY, WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE COULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE RIDESHARE PROGRAM, BUT THAT OUR TIMING COULD NOT BE MORE ON POINT.
AS WADA WAS MEETING IN SEPTEMBER TO DISCUSS THE FIVE-YEAR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF THE HAMPTON ROADS AREA, WE IMMEDIATELY DESIGNED A PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM PACKAGE WAS SENT TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS, PRESENTED TO THE YORK COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE THROUGH MR. BELLAMY, AND INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF THE SERVING YOUR COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBERS.
WE THEN FORMALLY ADDRESS THIS FORUM DURING THE SEPTEMBER, 2023 RESIDENTS COMMENTS.
THE RIDESHARE PROGRAM THAT I WOULD LIKE YOUR COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO CONSIDER IS TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM THE SENIOR CENTER FOR THOSE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO CAN NO LONGER DRIVE THEMSELVES.
THE PROGRAMS THAT THE SENIOR CENTER PROVIDES ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE PATRON'S, COGNITIVE AND PHYSICAL ABILITY TO FUNCTION AS A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY.
OUR VITAL SENIORS HAVE PAID YORK COUNTY TAXES FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
SOME PATRONS HAVE BEEN COUNTY RESIDENTS FOR ALL OF THEIR 80 AND 90 YEARS OF AGE.
ALL THEY'RE REQUESTING FROM THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT FOR A RIDE SHARE PROGRAM SO THAT THESE RESIDENTS CAN CONTINUE THE CAMARADERIE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND ENJOY THE TIME WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS HERE AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS HIGH TIME FOR YORK COUNTY TO ADDRESS THIS REQUEST AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR OVER A YEAR.
WE WERE ADVISED THAT YOU NOW HAVE A FORMAL BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR.
AS PART OF YOUR OVERALL PACKAGE, MANY 70 AND 80-YEAR-OLD CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY ARE AWAITING YOUR ACTION.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE FOREVER AS OUR DEFINITION OF FOREVER IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.
I'M SURE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO KICK THIS PROGRAM DOWN THE ROAD FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
MS. DAVIS, FOLLOWED BY LARISSA ETTE.
I AM D DAVIS AND I LIVE AT 1 0 9 3 POINT COURT IN YORKTOWN.
I AM HERE TO REPRESENT PATRONS OF THE SENIOR CENTER WHO CAN NO LONGER DRIVE THEMSELVES DUE TO MEDICAL OR SAFETY REASONS AND WHO NEED RIDES TO THE SENIOR CENTER TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN LIFE.
PATRONS HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP A VIABLE PROGRAM FOR TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND RECREATION WITH YORK COUNTY.
STAFF NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT FOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES WITH UBER COMPANY SENIOR RUNS.
SENIOR RUNS ARE WILLING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE SENIOR CENTER.
AS REQUESTED PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF DEVELOPED AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT INCLUDES COST INFORMATION, PACKETS FOR RIDERS, APPLICATION FORMS, ORIENTATION FOR USE, AND A DESIGNATED STAFF TO BE THE CONTACT BETWEEN RIDER AND DRIVER, AS WELL AS MANAGED SCHEDULES, PARKS AND REC STAFF SUBMITTED THIS PLAN IN ADDITION TO A WHITE PAPER TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION
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AS REQUESTED, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE TO ROLL OUT THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT FOR APPROVAL OF FUNDING.THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING TONIGHT.
PLEASE DON'T LEAVE SENIORS BEHIND.
SOME PATRON COMMENTS JUST THIS PAST MONTH HAVE BEEN, I WANTED TO ATTEND THE VALENTINE BINGO, BUT COULDN'T GET A RIDE.
I AM MISSING A WHOLE WEEK OF EXERCISE CLASSES BECAUSE MY RIDE IS OUT OF TOWN AGAIN.
MY DAUGHTER COULDN'T BREAK FREE FROM WORK TO GET ME TO THE CENTER TO BE WITH FRIENDS THIS WEEK.
EVERY TIME I DRIVE TO THE CENTER, I'M SO SCARED OF HAVING AN ACCIDENT.
AND MR. ETTE, YOU'RE UP NEXT AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA COME UP WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR MOTHER AND Y'ALL.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE WITH, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND THEN YOU GO TO HELP YOUR MOTHER WITH HER.
SO, ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH.
I LIVE AT ONE 19 RED DIRT ROAD AND THIS IS DISTRICT ONE AND I BROUGHT SOMETHING FROM MY, UH, EXHIBIT RIGHT HERE FOR YOU TO SEE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'VE EVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.
AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT YOU PROBABLY NEVER HEARD BEFORE, SO I'LL JUST READ SO I STAY FOCUSED.
SO DEAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME.
UM, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE FAMILY OF FOUR PEOPLE, TWO SENIOR CITIZENS AND TWO DISABLED CITIZENS, INCLUDING THE CHILD.
UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN INHABITABLE CONDITIONS.
THE HOUSE SAP FLOOR IS WRITTEN EXTENSIVELY AND EXHIBITS TOXIC MOLD IN IT.
EVERY FAMILY MEMBER IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HEALTH ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH TOXIC MOLD EXPOSURE.
WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN HIDDEN SYSTEM TO STOP MOLD SPORES DISTRIBUTION AROUND THE HOUSE.
AVERAGE TEMPERATURE IN OUR HOUSE IS CURRENTLY 59 60 DEGREES FEARING GUIDE.
WE'RE FREEZING AND YET OUR ELECTRICAL BILL IS $400 PER MONTH FOR USAGE OF PORTABLE HEATING UNITS WITHIN THE HOUSE.
WE BUILD THE GREENHOUSE ECO-FRIENDLY AND ENERGY EFFICIENT USING SAP PANELS BY FISHERS MANUFACTURE IN 2015.
THIS IS THE ONLY SAP HOUSE IN THE GREEN, THE GREENHOUSE IN NEW YORK COUNTY.
THIS HOUSE DID NOT LAST EVEN 10 YEARS.
WE NEED FINANCIAL, LEGAL, AND SCIENTIFIC RESOURCES TO RESTORE OUR HEALTH LIVES AND HOUSE.
WE DON'T KNOW UP TO THIS DATE IF OUR HOUSE IS BEYOND REPAIR OR NOT.
TO MAKE THIS CALL, WE NEED TO INVITE AN EXPERT SUCH AS BUILDING SCIENTISTS WHO WOULD KNOW ABOUT SA PANELS.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY OF THEM IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA OR IN THE UNITED STATES IN GENERAL, WHERE NEED TO INVITE INDUSTRIAL HYGIENISTS TO IDENTIFY MOLD TYPE AND ITS HAZARDS EFFECTS FROM OUR HEALTH.
WE NEED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR SUCH SERVICES AND SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED EVALUATION BY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS.
FISHER STATE MANUFACTURER IN KENTUCKY SOLD US DEFECTIVE AND NOT RATED FOR FLOW SYSTEMS PRODUCT SAP FLOOR PANELS AND THE PRODUCT CAME WITHOUT WARRANTY, I COULD NOT FIND AN ATTORNEY TO HELP ME REPRESENT US IN THE EASTERN DISTRICT FEDERAL COURT.
FOR THAT REASON, I WILL HAVE TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR MY FAMILY TOTAL LOSS AND DISTRACTION.
PRO SE I'M ASKING IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH LEGAL RESOURCES TO GET MY CASE ALL THE WAY TO THE TRIAL.
WE NEED HELP WITH SCIENTIFIC RESOURCES ON SEED BUILDING CODES, REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS.
SAP PANELS ARE RELATIVELY A NEW PRODUCT ON THE MARKET AND NO ONE SEEMED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
THIS IS THE ONLY BOOK AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW ON THE MARKET, PROMOTED BY CIPA STRUCTURAL INSULATED PL ASSOCIATION, WRITTEN BY BUILDING SCIENTIST MR. RE IN 2008.
AND THIS BOOK DOES NOT FEATURE HOW TO USE SAP FLOOR PANELS, HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND SO FORTH.
THE ONLY ONE, MR. K, YOU READY TO HELP YOUR MOTHER WITH HER PRESENTATION NOW? YES.
EXCUSE ME, MY ENGLISH IS NOT GOOD AND, UH, MY DAUGHTER WILL, UM, SPEAK INSTEAD ME.
SO WHERE HAPPENED TO BE AN EXPERIMENTAL CASE FOR THE SAP MANUFACTURER INDUSTRY? DUE TO SUCH EXPERIMENT, WE LOST EVERYTHING.
REAL ESTATE, PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND NOW WE'RE LOSING OUR HEALTH.
WE WERE DECEIVED BY FISHER SHIPS MANUFACTURER ALONG WITH THE, YOUR COUNTY BUILDING OFFICE REPRESENTATIVES.
SAP FLOOR PANELS WERE DEFECTIVE FROM THE START, WHICH LED US TO THE LOSS OF EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE STATUS OF HOMEOWNER, UM, ASKING TO HELP US IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
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YOU TO HELP IDENTIFY OTHER VICTIMS OF SAP MANUFACTURE INDUSTRY NATIONWIDE, WHERE FIRST MERGING VICTIM FAMILY IN THIS PROCESS HAS TO TAKE ITS START HERE IN YOUR COUNTY.PLEASE ALLOW ME TO MEET WITH YOU AT THE DIFFERENT DAY AND TIME, AND PLEASE ALLOW ME TO PRESENT AND DISCLOSE ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE ON SIPP MANUFACTURER GRANT DECEPTION, INCLUDING CONSTANT SAP IN INSTALLATION, REVISIONS BY CPA THAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND DESTROYING HUMAN LIVES BY WHOLE FAMILY UNITS.
PLEASE PROTECT US AND MANY OTHERS FROM THE TOTAL LOSS AND DESTRUCTION BY ISSUING SAP FLOOR PANEL PRODUCT RECALL NATIONWIDE.
THE PRODUCT RECALL WILL HELP TO IDENTIFY OTHER SAP INDUSTRY VICTIMS THAT ARE EITHER DEAL WITH THEIR ISSUES ON THEIR OWN OR ABOUT TO FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR TOTAL LOSS AND DESTRUCTION HOUSES A LIFETIME INVESTMENT FOR MANY.
PLEASE HELP ME AND OTHERS TO HOLD SAP INDUSTRY LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FRAUDULENT AND DECEPTIVE PRACTICES.
PLEASE STAND WITH US AND MANY OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE ABOUT TO FACE OUR FAITH.
WE NEED YOU AND PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US BEHIND.
I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU OUR HOUSE REAL QUICK.
THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR HOUSE.
THIS IS HOW IT WAS INTERIOR ROOM OF MY CHILD RIGHT HERE.
THE ROD ALL INSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND ALL YOU SEE IS JUST THE FOAM.
NOW THE FOAM, THIS HERE IS A CRAWL SPACE COMPLETELY ROTTED.
THIS HOUSE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN.
AND THIS IS A BLACK MOLD ON THE SAME AREA.
THIS IS HERE, THE DECEPTIVE PRACTICES BY SIPA, BY FISHER SIPS AND MANY OTHER SIP MANUFACTURERS RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS HOW OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2013.
NOW THEY BUILD IN THIS USING METAL TRUSSES AND THIS IS HOW THEY SUPPOSED TO PUT THE ROOF.
THEY DIDN'T DO THIS WITH US EITHER, SO I KNOW NOT ONLY FLOOR, BUT THE ROOF IS ALSO GONE.
I NEED YOUR RESOURCES AND HELP.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING TONIGHT AND SHARING THIS WITH US.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WHAT NEED THE ADDRESS SO THAT ADDRESS? IT IS, THEY WERE BOTH, UH, ONE 19 RED DIRT ROAD IN WILLIAMSBURG.
WE HAVE, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR
AND MR. HRO, YOU, YOU GOT, YOU GOT POINT ON THIS.
I'VE GOT IS ON YOUR RADAR ALREADY.
AND, UM, COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS SUGGESTED THAT OUR BUILDING MATERIALS OFFICIAL WOULD, WOULD BEGIN THE PROCESS.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE START.
UM, NEXT UP IS MS. LOUISE WALLY, I THINK IS WHAT I'M READING HERE CORRECTLY.
AND THEN BOB HENER AFTER THAT.
GREW UP ON RIVER ROAD AND HAVE LIVED AT ONE 13 BRYAN ROAD IN YORKTOWN FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE TO CHERISH THE WATERFRONT OR WANT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC TREASURE THAT IS YORKTOWN.
I ASSURE YOU THAT I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE QUOTE MISINFORMED VILLAGE PEOPLE.
END QUOTE, THAT HIGHLY ADE, UH, HIGHLY PAID PROFESSIONAL LOBBYISTS URGE YOU TO DISMISS.
I AM, HOWEVER, A DEDICATED VOLUNTEER WHO HAS DONE HER HOMEWORK OVER THESE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
I HAVE PRESENTED YOU WITH FACTS SHOWING THAT THE PRINCESS CRUISES WITH THEIR OCEAN GOING CITIES, CITIES POSE A THREAT TO THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT, DAMAGE FRAGILE HABITATS, AND NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE LIVABILITY OF THEIR PORTS OF CALL FOR THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE THERE.
IN TALKING WITH YOU, I HAVE NOT MEANT MERELY TO BE REQUESTING A 2024 HIATUS IN PRINCESS VISITING YORKTOWN.
I MEANT TO STOP PRINCESS AND ALL OCEAN GOING FLOATING CITIES PERMANENTLY.
I DO UNDERSTAND PRINCESS'S AGGRESSIVE MARKETING CAMPAIGN.
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WHY THEY WANT YOU TO WEAR ROSE COLORED GLASSES.I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE COURTING YOU.
IT'S A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR GLOBAL INDUSTRY OF WHICH YORK YORKTOWN WOULD BE THE CHERRY ON THE TOP.
PLEASE PUT THE CITIZENS AHEAD OF THE MONEY, PUT PEOPLE AHEAD OF THE PRINCESS' POCKETS.
I TRUST YOU WILL NOT BE SNOWED.
AND FOLLOWING MR. RICHARD HOWELL.
GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU.
I RESIDE AT TEN NINE ZERO ZERO FERRIES MILL ROAD IN GLOUCESTER SINCE AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
PRIOR TO THAT, I LIVED IN YORK COUNTY SINCE 1996.
I SERVED ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF RETAIL ADVISORS.
IT'S A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE FIRM HERE LOCALLY.
WE SPECIALIZE IN RESTAURANT BROKERAGE AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS.
QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS IS DEFINED.
AND BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHT TO EIGHTIES, THE DRIVE THROUGH WAS IN ITS INFANCY, BASICALLY IS THE BIRTH OF THE DRIVE THROUGH ABOUT 10% OF THE BUSINESSES.
BUSINESS WAS DONE THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH AT THAT POINT, ALTHOUGH, AND THEY WERE JUST CATCHING ON, WE GOT A LITTLE FASTER IN 1990S, THAT BUSINESS INCREASED TO 25%.
I'M GETTING THESE NUMBERS FROM NATIONAL RESTAURANTS AND THEY'VE GIVEN ME THIS INFORMATION.
SO IN 1990, THE BUSINESS THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH WAS 25% OF, OF ALL THEIR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY.
IN THE TWO THOUSANDS, IT WAS UP TO 45 TO 50% OF THEIR BUSINESS.
AND A LOT OF IT PEOPLE WERE JUST GETTING THEIR FOOD AND LEAVING.
UM, AND THEN ALSO IN THE 2010S, IT WAS 65% OF THEIR BUSINESS.
NOW, TODAY, ESPECIALLY AFTER COVID, NEARLY 75 TO 95% OF THE BUSINESS IS GOING THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, DEPENDING ON WHICH NATIONAL RESTAURANT.
SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THIS EVOLUTION OF THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS WHERE A DRIVE THROUGH PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE, THE RESTAURANTS ARE GETTING SMALLER AND ALSO THE, UH, THE NEED FOR PARKING IS LESS NEEDED.
'CAUSE NO ONE'S GOING THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH AND PARKING AND EATING, THEY'RE GOING HOME OR GOING TO WORK.
SO I'M TELLING YOU THIS BECAUSE WE REPRESENT TWO NATIONAL RESTAURANT CHAINS THAT HAVE NO DINING IN, THERE'S NO DIN, AND THEY'RE NEW TO, THEY'LL BE NEW TO YORK COUNTY AND WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED SITES FOR THEM.
AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THEIR SITE PLANS, BUT THEY HAVE NO DINE-IN.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN TODAY, IF A 1200 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, WHICH HAS, HAS NO FRONT OF THE HOUSE, FRONT OF THE HOUSE BEING A DINE-IN AREA, IT'S THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
SO IN YORK COUNTY, IF YOU HAVE A 1200 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 18 PARKING SPACES.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 12.
SO THESE, THESE RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE NO DINE IN DO NOT DESERVE TO BE, HAVE TO GIVE ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES.
AND I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER REVISING THE CODE TO, TO AMPLIFY TODAY'S TIMES.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 HORSESHOE DRIVE SUPERVISORS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THIS AUGUST GROUP WILL TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE OF DEVELOPING GUIDELINES OR RULES FOR ADDRESSING STR IN THE NEAR TERM.
AND FIRST THING I WANNA SAY IS AMEN.
YOU KNOW, AS I, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH SEVERAL CITIZENS, UH, OVER THESE LAST FEW YEARS TO TRY TO RAISE AWARENESS, TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE INFORMED AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.
NOT ONLY HERE, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE'VE DONE RESEARCH AS FAR AWAY AS CALIFORNIA TO, UH, NEW ORLEANS AND, AND TEXAS AND ALL OVER VIRGINIA AS WELL, FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA TO VIRGINIA BEACH, CHESAPEAKE, RICHMOND, YOU NAME IT.
WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WE'VE BROUGHT INFORMATION TO YOU.
WE'VE PROVIDED YOU IDEAS AND THOUGHTS ON SOME OF THE VERY THINGS YOU'RE GONNA TAKE UP.
UH, AND I CAN PROVIDE THOSE AGAIN.
UH, THESE WERE NOT DREAMED UP OUT OF THIN AIR.
THEY WERE IDEAS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS US HAVE FOUND TO HAVE IMPACT
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TO, TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR SITUATION.WE TRIED TO BRING THOSE TO THE TABLE.
SO IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE, WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY STAFF AND WE APPRECIATED THAT VERY MUCH.
BUT I, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT, THAT THEIR, UH, TAKE ON THIS WAS THEIR, THEIR SINGLE THING THAT THEY ASKED IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO REDUCE THE HEAT IN THESE MEETINGS? THAT WAS THEIR, THEIR INTEREST POINT.
UM, I I FOUND THAT AN INTERESTING WAY TO, TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC.
UH, NO ONE INTENDED TO PUT HEAT IN THE MEETINGS, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE ADDRESSED THE POINT.
SO WITHOUT BELABORING IT, I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE TONIGHT IS KEY TOPICS THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED SINCE DAY ONE.
AND IF YOU WANNA FIND THE TOUCH POINTS THE CITIZENS HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THERE'S TWO.
THE FIRST KIND OF MULTIFACETED HAD TO DO WITH WHOLE HOME RENTALS, BOTTOM LINE OWNER ON SITE.
AND IF YOU CANNOT LIVE WITH THAT ADJACENT, THE OWNER NEEDS TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.
BEING A REMOTE OWNER IS WHERE PROBLEMS BEGIN.
THE SECOND ONE, AND PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF TIMES, HAS BEEN THE ISSUE OF DENSITY OR SOME WAY WHERE YOU AS A BOARD, AS YOU ADDRESS THESE, HAVE SOMETHING TO HANG YOUR HAT ON THAT SAYS, I THINK THIS IS AS FAR AS WE NEED TO GO.
I THINK WE'VE GONE FAR ENOUGH.
HOW MANY IS TOO MANY? SO I WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH THIS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT ON THE 19TH OF THIS MONTH WHERE THE CITY OF HAMPTON IS NOW ADDRESSING THAT VERY ISSUE.
THEY PUT TOGETHER A CITIZENS GROUP AND THEY HAVE A PLAN IN A WAY AHEAD.
IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, YOU SHOULD READ IT.
IT'S IN THE HA UH, THE, UH, THE PILOT.
MR. BROCK, FOLLOWED BY MR. TAIN.
MR. CHAMBERLAIN, UH, GOOD EVENING ESTEEMED SUPERVISORS AND CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO MR. DREWRY AND MR. ROY.
I LIVE AT TWO 20 BACON STREET HERE IN THE VILLAGE.
I KNOW YOU'RE ALL TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT PRINCESS CRUISE LINES.
BUT PRINCESS PAID LOBBYIST FRANK WAGNER, RECENTLY CALLED YOU MR. SHEPHERD AND, UH, WANTED TO SAY THAT PRINCESS WOULD COME TO YORKTOWN IN 2025 IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS INVITED THEM.
THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS WHY I PRAY YOU DO NOT DO THAT.
PRINCESS CRUISE LINES HAS NOT OPERATED AS A TRUSTWORTHY PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS PARTNER.
THEY SLAPPED YOU AND THE COUNTY STAFF IN THE FACE.
THEY SLAPPED YOU IN THE FACE WHEN THEY DID NOT DO YOU THE COURTESY OF INFORMING YOU PRIOR TO THEIR PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY WERE NOT GONNA COME TO YORKTOWN IN 2024 FOR THEIR PROOF OF CONCEPT CRUISES.
THEIR BEHAVIOR OF THAT BEHAVIOR IS SPITEFUL AND PETTY, NOT COOPERATIVE, COLLABORATIVE, COLLEGIAL OR RESPECTFUL, BUT IT DOES INDICATE HOW THEY OPERATE AND HOW LITTLE REGARD THEY HAVE FOR YOU.
AND FOR THE YORK COUNTY STAFF.
TWO, THE INTERNATIONAL CRUISE LINE INDUSTRY IS BOTH AGGRESSIVE AND PREDATORY AND SEEKING TO OPEN NEW MARKETS.
WHEN PRINCESS ANNOUNCED IT'S COMING TO YORKTOWN, OTHER CRUISE LINES JUMPED ON THE BANDWAGON AND ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE COMING TOO CLEARLY.
THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE BIG SHIP CRUISE INDUSTRY IS TO BRING TO YORKTOWN AS MANY ENORMOUS FOREIGN FLAGGED SHIPS AS IT CAN.
IF YOU OPEN THE DOOR TO ONE OCEAN GOING CRUISE LINE, YOU ENCOURAGE OTHERS.
AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE HEALTH OF THE YORK RIVER.
A DECEMBER, 2023 DRAFT OF A YORK COUNTY DOCUMENT EXPLAINING HOW TO DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF A PILOT PROGRAM MAKES NO MENTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS REGARDING THE YORK RIVER.
I REALIZE IT'S A DRAFT, BUT STILL THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND NO SPECIFIC WAY TO ASSESS ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF SUCH LARGE SHIPS ON THE SIGNIFICANT AND FRAGILE ECOSYSTEMS THAT SUSTAIN OUR LOCAL FISH, CRABS, OYSTERS, BIRDS, AND CERTAIN MAMMALS.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR YORK COUNTY TO ADOPT A POLICY REJECTING ALL LARGE FOREIGN FLAGGED OCEAN GOING SHIPS.
SOMEBODY REFERRED TO THEM AS CITIES.
AND TO FOCUS ON PROTECTING THE YORK RIVER WHILE WORKING RESPONSIBLY WITH RIVER SIZED AMERICAN FLAGGED CRUISE LINES, AND ALSO WITH THE TALL SHIPS THAT COME HERE FROM AROUND THE WORLD.
PLEASE SAY NO FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL TO PRINCESS AND TO OTHER HUGE CRUISE SHIPS.
AFFIRM AND RESOUNDING, NO THANK YOU.
FOLLOWED BY, UH, KELLY MATTHEWS.
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GOOD EVENING.TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TWO 70 BARLOW ROAD.
UH, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER AND AND TREASURER ARE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS HOW DIFFICULT THIS NEW SOFTWARE IS TO USE
UM, I USED TO BE ABLE TO PAY MY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, COMBINE ALL OF THEM.
ONE SHOT, MAKE THE PAYMENT, REAL ESTATE ONE SHOT, MAKE THE PAYMENT IN DECEMBER.
I HAD TO DO SEVEN DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS SEVEN TIMES, ENTERING MY ROUTING NUMBER, SEVEN TIMES, ENTERING MY ACCOUNT NUMBER.
IF I TRANSPOSED ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS, I GOT A $35 BILL AND A NASTY NOTE FROM THE TREASURER.
MY SOLID WASTE BILL FROM YORK COUNTY IS AUTO PAID.
I SIGNED UP FOR THAT 20 SOME YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO MAKE THIS NEW SOFTWARE SO COMPLICATED, SO DIFFICULT TO USE.
I SENT IT, IT HAS A LITTLE PORTAL.
SEND YOUR NOTE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AND THEY'LL COMBINE YOUR ACCOUNTS WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF THAT REQUEST.
I WAS TOLD THE NAMES DON'T EXACTLY MATCH.
YOU CAN'T COUNT 'EM, YOU CAN'T MATCH 'EM.
SO MY WIFE'S CAR CAN'T GET PAID BY MY ACCOUNT AND MY STUFF CAN'T GET PAID BY HER ACCOUNT.
AND OUR HOUSE CAN'T GET PAID BECAUSE IT'S IN A TRUST, UM, IN ANY OF THOSE.
SO THIS NEW SOFTWARE IS, IS CRAZY HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MANAGE AND IT SHOULD BE A VERY SIMPLE THING.
MY CABLE BILL IS AUTOMATICALLY PAID.
MY CREDIT CARD BILLS ARE AUTOMATICALLY PAID.
MY ELECTRIC BILL IS AUTOMATICALLY PAID ONE TIME SIGN UP AND I'M DONE.
THE DATES THAT DO VARY AND THEY KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THAT.
UM, IN FACT, MY SOLID WASTE BILL VARIES BECAUSE I'LL HAVE A PICKUP AND THEY ADD $25 AND PRESS TWO AUTOMATICALLY DEDUCTED, UM, WHEN THAT BILL IS DUE.
BUT THIS NEW SOFTWARE TO PAY OUR OUR PROPERTY TAX BILLS IS, IS INSANE IN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO USE.
AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO SOMETHING TO HELP PUT SOME PRESSURE ON WHOEVER IS MAKING THE DECISION BEHIND THE SCENES TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THAT AND, AND GET A CORRECTION IN PLACE.
SO IF YOU HAVE THE SAME LAST NAME AND THE SAME ADDRESS, YOU OUGHT BE ABLE TO PAY IT IN ONE SHOT, NOT SEVEN.
UM, MS. KELLY, UH, MS. WEBB, I THINK MAYBE WE HAVE A GOOD USE CASE IF MR. CHAMBERLAIN BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING MS. WITH, WITH THEM AND, AND Y'ALL GET TOGETHER AND JUST WORK RIGHT THROUGH THE PROBLEMS AND SOLVE EVERYBODY.
SO, UH, MS. MATTHEWS, GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS KELLY MATTHEWS AND MY ADDRESS IS 3 0 7 DOROTHY DRIVE, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA, 2 3 6 9 2.
I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE CAMERAS BEING INSTALLED IN THE SCHOOL ZONES.
A SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN.
SHERIFF RON MONTGOMERY SHARED A PRESENTATION IN JANUARY'S BOARD MEETING.
HE SAID THAT THERE WAS AN ALARMING AMOUNT OF SPEEDING VIOLATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE IN FIVE DAYS PERIOD AT FIVE LOCATIONS OF THE SCHOOL.
SCHOOL ZONES THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO, THREE HUNDRED 3,725 VIOLATIONS.
HE PROPOSED A HUNDRED DOLLARS FINE, WHICH COMES TO 372,500 AND JUST FIVE DAYS SAFETY.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 55 MILES APPROACHING THE YORKTOWN SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL SCHOOL ZONE.
IF YOU LOOK CLOSE ENOUGH IN THIS PICTURE OR ZOOM IN, YOU'LL ALSO ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE SCHOOL ZONE STARTS, SHERIFF MONTGOMERY MENTIONED.
AND THE VIOLATION OCCURS AS SOON AS THE VEHICLES ARE ENTERING IN THE FLASHING LIGHTS.
IT APPEARS THIS IS THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE CAMERAS WILL BE INSTALLED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY OTHER EXPERIMENT IN ANY OTHER LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL ZONE.
WHY NOT? WHY WAS THE EXPERIMENT ONLY DONE AC ONCE ENTERED INTO THE FLASHING LIGHTS? THE CONCERN HERE IS SAFETY.
I EXPERIMENTED DURING THE SPEED LIMIT AT 55 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN REDUCING THE SPEED TO 35 MILES PER HOUR APPROACHING THE FLASHING LIGHTS.
IT APPEARS TO BE A TIMING ISSUE.
IF YOU DON'T SLOW DOWN IN TIME, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO GET TO THE DROPPED AT SPEED OF 35 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS.
BY THAT TIME YOU REACH THE FLASHING LIGHTS.
OH, THERE WAS A QUESTION AND CONCERN BROUGHT BY MR. SHEPHERD THAT SLOWING DOWN TOO QUICKLY COULD CAUSE AN ACCIDENT ONCE PEOPLE REALIZED THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN THE BLINKING FLASHING LIGHTS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
SHERIFF R MONTGOMERY MENTIONED THAT THESE CAMERAS SUPPOSEDLY REDUCE PEOPLE SPEEDING BY 92%.
WHERE DID THAT DATA COME FROM? THE CAMERAS ARE STILL AT THE
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LOCATIONS WHERE THIS IS GENERATING A LOT OF MONEY.AND NOT BY PEOPLE, BUT BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
SOME YORK COUNCIL, SOME YORK COUNTY.
THE CITIZENS BELIEVE THIS CAMERAS WILL NOT BRING ANY TYPE OF AWARENESS OF SLOWING PEOPLE DOWN.
IT'S JUST ABOUT THE MONEY THAT MAKE IT EASY TO BE GENERATED.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE ASKING, IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL? HERE IS A PROPOSED SOLUTION ON KEEPING THE SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY.
HERE'S THE PICTURE, TRAVELING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION ON 17, LEAVING YORK COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, MOVING IN THE DIRECTION AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL ZONE.
IT'S THE PICTURE OF A SIGN WITH FLASHING LIGHTS, LETTING DRIVERS KNOW THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT AHEAD.
I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO LOOK INTO INSTALLING THESE TYPES OF SIGNS THAT WOULD SAY SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY AHEAD WITH FLASHING LIGHTS.
HAVING THESE SIGNS POSTED WITH BLINKING LIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL ZONE CAN ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE SCHOOL ZONE.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE INSTALLED IN ALL THE SCHOOL LOCATIONS TO ENSURE ANOTHER LAYER OF SAFETY, NOT MONEY.
EVERYBODY SHOULD SEE THESE SIGNS AND HAVE TIME TO REDUCE THEIR SPEED.
YOU'RE ON THE BOARD TO HELP PEOPLE.
LET'S NOT MAKE THE SOLUTION MONEY.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I LIVE AT 2 2 4 CHURCH STREET AND AGAIN ABOUT THE PRINCESS.
AND I HAVE THE SAME COMMENTS AS ANDREWS BASICALLY, AND THAT WE ARE DELIGHTED THAT THEY HAVE GONE TO NORFOLK.
IT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION TO BE BRINGING IN TONS OF BUSES AND EXCURSIONS.
THEY COULD MAKE YORKTOWN AN EXCURSION AND BRING A BUSLOAD IN.
WE COULD STILL HOST OUR HISTORY WITH THOSE MEMBERS WHO WANT TO LEARN ABOUT YORKTOWN HISTORY.
THINGS STILL GO TO THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION MUSEUM.
THEY CAN STILL DO THE TROLLEY RIDE.
THEY CAN GO TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
WE CAN STILL HOST FROM NORFOLK.
WE DON'T NEED THEM IN THE YORK RIVER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SAME COMMENT THAT MR. WAGNER JUST SAID.
IT TAKES A A LETTER INVITATION BACK AND THEY COULD COME BACK IN 25.
PLEASE DON'T WRITE THAT LETTER, PLEASE SAY NO.
THAT WAS THE LAST COMMENT I HAD.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT, SEE YOU NONE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING UP AND SPEAKING.
WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON AND TO MOVE OVER TO, UM, MR. RICHARD HILL FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS.
THANK YOU MR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. HILL.
DO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HILL ON ANYTHING? ANY? OKAY,
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
MR. BELLAMY, YOU'RE UP NEXT COUNTY ADMINISTRATION REPORT AND MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION QUESTION, UH, FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN.UH, WE RECENTLY PROVIDED TO YOU, UH, IN YOUR BOARD CORRESPONDENCE PACKAGE, A MEMO OUTLINING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SENIOR CENTER TRANSPORTATION.
WE'VE RECOMMENDED A PILOT PROGRAM BE INSTALLED.
UH, AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE PILOT PROGRAM, WE CAN START, UH, MAKING SOME, UH, EDUCATED GUESSES ABOUT SERVICE AREA, DEMAND, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND COME UP WITH A, A LARGER PROGRAM IF THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, MR. FULLER WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT.
HE MET WITH A COMMITTEE ON THAT AND HE MIGHT, UH, BE ABLE TO SHARE SOME, SOME OTHER INFORMATION FOR YOU IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UH, SHORT OF THAT, UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS OCCASIONALLY WE TALK ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES IN YORK COUNTY.
AND, UH, MR. OLSON PROVIDED US WITH A FLYER THAT SAYS SMALL BUSINESS AND TOURISM.
IT SAYS, JOIN US AT THIS FREE EVENT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE VARIOUS RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, INCLUDING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO PROMOTE, ENHANCE YOUR VISIBILITY, AND MEET REPRESENTATIVES FROM A VIRGINIA TOURISM CORPORATION.
SO I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD KNEW THAT WE WERE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESS OWNERS, AND I'M SURE YOU WOULD BE WELCOME TO ATTEND AS WELL.
THIS IS DONE IN CONJUNCTION, UH, WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS FROM THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WHEN IS IT, WHEN IS IT? IT IS IN TWO DAYS,
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AS I RECALL.FEBRUARY 22ND THURSDAY FROM NINE TO 10:30 AM THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
UH, IT'S IN WILLIAMSBURG AT THE WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITY BUILDING 4 0 1 NORTH BOUNDARY STREET.
ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WHAT'S THE, UH, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE TRANSPORTATION? HOW FAR YOU'RE ON THAT OR WHAT'S THE PROCESS? OKAY.
I'LL ASK MR. FULLER TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO THE PILOT PROGRAM, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED IS CONTRACTING WITH A COMPANY CALLED SENIOR RUNS.
AND THE SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM IS GONNA COST $40,000 TO PICK UP FIVE SENIORS A DAY.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAT GOT TOGETHER IN STAFF, SCRUBBED THE PENINSULA, LOOKED ALL OVER AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF COSTS.
UM, IT'S A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU WANT TO PICK UP DOOR TO DOOR AND AND DRIVE THEM TO THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND THIS WOULD ONLY PICK UP, UM, THIS PROGRAM.
THEY COULD CALL AND BE PICKED UP, BUT THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO PICK UP FIVE PEOPLE EACH WEEK.
WE LOOKED AT OTHER COSTS TO PROVIDE A MORE ROBUST SYSTEM.
LOOKED AT PROVIDING OUR OWN PART-TIME STAFF TO DO IT AND TO PICK UP 10 INDIVIDUALS A DAY TIMES 50 WEEKS OVER THE COURSE OF ALL PROGRAM HOURS THAT THE CENTER IS OPEN IS GONNA BE, IF YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE A VAN, WHICH YOU WOULD, UH, THE STAFF COST IS ABOUT $150,000 FOR A YEAR, AND THE BUS WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP 10 PEOPLE A DAY OR ABOUT 5,000 PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
IT'S, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING AND COST EFFECTIVE.
I MEAN, COST, COST COSTLY TO DO, UH, 'CAUSE YOU'RE PICKING UP INDIVIDUALS AT THEIR DOOR.
WHAT ABOUT A MINIMAL CHARGE TO YES, YOU COULD, YOU COULD CHARGE, UM, YOU DEFINITELY COULD CHARGE.
IF WE DID THIS PILOTING PROGRAM, WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT A FEE IN IT UPFRONT.
UM, THE, THE SENIOR RUNS PROGRAM IS BASICALLY $62 AND 84 CENTS PER RIDE.
WHAT WE WOULD BE CHARGED WHEN YOU BREAK OUT THE COST.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT DOING OUR OWN, UM, WE GOT IT DOWN TO ABOUT $48 A RIDE.
SO, UM, WHAT DOES UBER CHARGE A LOT CHEAPER? YEAH.
UM, AND WHY WOULDN'T WE BUILD SOMETHING AROUND AN UBER SYSTEM? WELL, WE COULD, I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT ALL THOSE SYSTEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRIED WORKING WITH THE SENIORS TO DO CARPOOLING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, KIND OF LIKE A SHARED KIND OF A BOARD AT THE CENTER IF YOU NEEDED A RIDE, YOU KNOW, LET SOMEBODY KNOW, TRY TO CARPOOL.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROGRAMS AT ALL DIFFERENT TIMES AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO IT'S, IT'S A SYSTEM THAT'S OPEN FROM EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING TILL FOUR AT NIGHT.
SO YOU, WHEN DO YOU WANT TO GET PEOPLE THERE? UM, AND, AND TRYING TO DO IT.
YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE BASICALLY COORDINATORS.
UH, CITY, UH, GLOUCESTER HAS A REGIONAL PROGRAM THAT THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, UM, WHERE THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN CALL AND GET A RIDE AND IT'S A, UH, BUT THEIR BUDGET'S PROBABLY ABOUT, I THINK $5 MILLION.
UM, WHAT THEY DO TO PROVIDE RIDES.
AND IT'S ALL DONE BY, UM, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
UH, THE WA BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATA TRANSPORTATION DOWN IN THE LOWER END OF THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE NOT CAPABLE OF PICKING UP, UH, INDIVIDUALS THROUGH PARATRANSIT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
MR. DREW, DO YOU HAVE OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.
SO WHAT ABOUT VOLUNTEERS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DRIVE A BUS IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BUS INSURANCE AVAILABLE? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE THAT ARE RETIRED THAT POSSIBLY WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE COULD GET THE WORD OUT, TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE HAVE TO GET, WE'D HAVE TO GET WITH HR, OBVIOUSLY, SEE THE LIABILITY OF THEM DRIVING COUNTY VEHICLES.
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UH, WHAT WE LOOKED AT TAKING IT OVER IS YOU'RE GONNA NEED ONE PERSON THAT JUST MANAGES PICKING UP AND DELIVERY AND SCHEDULING.AND IT TAKES ONE PERSON, MANY, A LARGE PART OF HER JOB EACH WEEK IS COORDINATING WHO'S COMING TO THE CENTER, WHO HAS TO GET PICKED UP.
THEN THEY CALL AT THE LAST MINUTE, OR THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY FORGET ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE NOT THERE.
UH, IT, IT, IT TAKES A LOT TO COORDINATE ALL OF THAT.
NOT, IT CAN BE DONE SINCE YOU SAID EARLIER, THERE'S LOTS OF MONEY.
I MEAN, BUT IT'S
I THINK A LOT OF OLDER FOLKS THAT ARE RETIRED, UH, WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I'VE GOT A FATHER-IN-LAW THAT'S 89 THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO GET UP TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN.
IT'S JUST A CHALLENGE TO DO IT COST EFFECTIVELY.
CRYSTAL, MS. SHEPHERD, PRESS THE BUTTON.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF LUMPING ALL THE SENIORS INTO, UH, UM, SAME POOL.
AND I'M, UH, SITTING THERE GOING AT HOME AND I CAN'T GO TO, UM, TO THE CLUB BOBBY RENO.
AND, UH, GET YOU STRETCHED OUT FOR GOLF.
AND SO I'M JUST SITTING THERE, YOU KNOW, COUNTING MY MONEY AND NOT DOING ANYTHING.
WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE SENIORS CAN AFFORD TO PAY THEIR WAY.
I MEAN, YOU, SO YOU BASE THE, THE CHARGE OR THE, THE USE OF THE VEHICLE, UM, YOU CAN BASE IT ON THEIR INCOME, UH, OR, OR THEIR WEALTH OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT, BUT DON'T LUMP EVERYBODY THE SAME BECAUSE THEN, THEN YOU JUST DRIVE YOUR NUMBERS UP.
I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT, SOMEBODY THAT, I MEAN THAT, THINK ABOUT IT, A SENIOR THAT DOES NOT DRIVING NOW SUPPOSEDLY IS NOT PAYING CAR INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLE, GAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, THERE'S A SAVINGS AND IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THIS THING BASED UPON, IT MAY WANT TO GO NOT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
THEY MAY WANT TO GO THREE TIMES A DAY OR THREE TIMES A WEEK.
AND SO THEY, THEY WILL PAY IF THEY CAN AFFORD IT AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE FAIR.
ALL THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS TRANSPORTATION AND NOT LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT HERE.
SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW WE'RE COUCHING THIS.
I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS.
FIRST WE WANTED TO TRY KNOWING THAT WE COULD ONLY WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM, IT WAS TRY TO DO A PROOF OF CONCEPT, PROVE THAT IT COULD WORK.
UH, WE WERE ONLY KNOW WE COULD PICK UP FIVE PEOPLE A DAY, UH, DETERMINING WHICH FIVE WE PICKED UP.
IS IT, IT WOULD BE VETTED NEED.
IS THERE A NEED FOR FIVE? I MEAN, IS IT, DO YOU HAVE FIVE? MAYBE IT'S ONLY FOUR.
OR IS IT 10 OR 15? WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY CAME TO US, THEY HAD, THEY CAME TO US BASED ON ONE THE MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY EXERCISE CLASS.
AND THEY HAD THE POTENTIAL THERE FOR FIVE PEOPLE TO, THAT NEEDED, THAT WOULD LIKE TRANSPORTATION WHEN, WELL, I GET A GET A WRITE A VOUCHER FOR A UBER.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN HIRING AN EMPLOYEE.
PAYING THE, PAYING THE, THE OVERHEAD SALARY RELATED COST FOR THE, AND YOU GETTING THE VEHICLE THAT YOU GOTTA PAY FOR MAINTENANCE, ALL IT JUST GET AN UBER
I MEAN WE, OR TAXI OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS LIKE THAT.
UM, IF, IF I MAY, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO FIND A WAY TO DO THIS, TO SERVE AS MANY OF THEM AS YOU CAN.
AND WHETHER THEY PAY OR NOT, SOME WILL AND SOME WON'T BE ABLE TO.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO OUR OLDER CITIZENS.
SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A, A VIABLE PROGRAM SOON.
WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE SENIOR RUNS WAS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TRY THIS PROOF OF CONCEPT.
WELL, I'M NOT NECESSARILY TALKING COST EFFECTIVE, I'M TALKING, BUT YOU WANT TO SERVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN.
THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT THAN MAKING IT COST EFFECTIVE.
OF COURSE, WE WANT TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
OUR, THE BOTTOM LINE IS SERVICE TO OUR SENIORS.
MR. SHEPHERD, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO FINISH UP, MRS. DOLE? ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK I'VE COVERED IT.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO A SITUATION MY PARENTS FACED WHEN THEY WERE AGING.
MY FATHER WAS IN A, WAS IN A, A HOME AND, UH, MY MOTHER WAS STILL BASED IN OUR FAMILY HOME AND SHE WANTED TO TRAVEL DAILY TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SEE HIM.
IT WAS ACTUALLY THE BUS SERVICE THAT ARRANGED IT.
UH, SENIORS COULD PAY, I THINK IT WAS $15 A MONTH AND THEY WOULD HAVE VOUCHERS THAT THEY COULD THEN USE.
AND THE, AND THE BUS COMPANY ARRANGED TAXI CABS.
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SO THEY DIDN'T TRY AND PICK 'EM UP WITH BUSES OR MINIVANS.THEY WOULD SEND A CAB TO THEIR LOCATION AND TAKE 'EM TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO GO.
AND YOU HAD TO, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT WAS YOU HAD TO CALL 30 MINUTES IN ADVANCE.
UM, I'M, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S 62 80 A RIDE THAT'S, THAT'S EXORBITANT.
WELL, AND IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY, WATADA DOES HAVE A PARA TRANSIT SERVICE THAT IF YOU LIVE WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF A ROUTE, YOU CAN CALL AND GET A RIDE.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICE IN THE LOWER END OF THE COUNTY THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO US.
THE CON THE CONCEPT WAS THAT THEY DID THE ORGANIZING, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THAT THEY HAD BUSES IN ALL OF THOSE ROUTES, BUT THEY WOULD DO THE ORGANIZING.
AND WHERE IS THAT? 'CAUSE I WE'RE, WE, WE SCOURED THE AREA LOOKING AT, UH, IN, IN THE STATE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES, UH, AND PROGRAMS AND HOW TO FIND THAT.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY STUDIED ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
WHERE WAS IT? MY HOTEL AT? YES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU TO SAY.
YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL, UM, MS. FULLER.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, SINCE WE HAVE A PILOT PROGRAM, WE'RE KICKING OFF, HOW DOES, HOW DID YOU FIND, HOW DO YOU FIND PARTICIPANTS? HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER, BE PART PARTICIPANTS? HAVE YOU ALREADY GOT WELL, WE HAD THE ORIGINAL, UM, ASK.
WE HAD A, THEY IDENTIFIED FIVE PEOPLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PROCESS DID, WE, SETTING UP A TRANSPORTATION, WE ALREADY HAVE A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER.
THEY'RE GONNA VET THE APPLICANTS AND DETERMINE WHICH ONES ARE THE MOST NEEDY, MOST DESIRABLE, UH, TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY NOT BE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION.
WE MAY, AS WE STUDY THIS, MAY FIND THAT A A BUS SERVICE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MAY SERVE THE NEEDS OF SOME AND MAYBE A RIDE SHARE PROGRAM, LIKE A UBER OR SO FORTH.
WE'LL TAKE CARE OF SOME OTHER FOLKS AS WELL.
KIND OF A BLENDED APPROACH WITH, UM, SOME FOLKS DEPENDING UPON, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEEDS AND CONTRIBUTE TO IT, SOME DON'T.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE FAIRLY, FAIRLY COMPLICATED TO SETTLE IT OUT, BUT IT IS WORTHWHILE TRACKING DOWN TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST APPROACH TO IT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE, UM, TAKE, UH, LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OF A SENIOR CITIZEN AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO NOT BE ABLE TO, UH, ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ABOUT THE RIDE SHARE PROGRAMS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL FOR THE CAPACITY, THE WHITE RIDE SHARE PROGRAM, THE UBERS IN YORK COUNTY? IS THERE EVEN ENOUGH OF THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DURING THE TIMES THAT THEY NEED TO PARTICIPATE? YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD OBVIOUSLY GEAR UP IF THEY START GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY'RE BIG BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, UM, OR RUNNING PEOPLE TO THE AIRPORT.
BUT I IMAGINE IF THEY START SEEING REQUESTS FOR MONDAY AFTERNOON, A LOT OF THOSE, THEY'RE ALL INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS WOULD, UH RIGHT.
GLADLY TAKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE AT THAT TIME.
AND IS THAT, AND I WONDER TOO, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THE OTHER VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO VISIT PEOPLE'S HOME? LIKE THE DIFFERENT MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WHERE THEY COULD PROVIDE ANOTHER SERVICE WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY DROP PEOPLE OUT AND JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AGAIN, I WANNA SEE A BLENDED APPROACH INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO FIND THE ONE THING.
YEAH, I, I MEAN THE MEALS ON WHEELS DRIVERS THAT, THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, ARE USUALLY PICKING UP 20 MEALS AND THEY'RE DELIVERING THOSE 20 MEALS.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE BACK END OF THE LAST, THE, THE LAST PERSON PROBABLY THAT MAY GET THE ONE, THE ONE PERSON THAT, THAT THE NUMBER SIX PERSON, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GOT THE FIVE.
SO ANYWAY, JUST THROWING OUT THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY COMMENTS? I'M WITH CHAIRMAN.
I'D LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS TO WHAT BRIAN HAS JUST SAID.
SO THIS, WE TRIED TO GET A STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROACH BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE THIS AS COMPLICATED AS YOU WANT US TO MAKE IT.
AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE ALL DOABLE.
IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT ELIGIBILITY, UH, THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHO'S ELIGIBLE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR FIGURE THAT MAKES SOMEONE ELIGIBLE OR NOT ELIGIBLE.
SO THAT COMPLICATES THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT.
THEN DO THEY HAVE A HANDICAP, ARE WE GONNA PROVIDE A DA SERVICE? ARE WE DOING WHEELCHAIRS? SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE WHEELCHAIR SERVICE FOR THE SAME COST THAT YOU PROVIDE ANOTHER SERVICE.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO VET VOLUNTEERS IF WE HAD VOLUNTEERS.
IT'S NOT A TERRIBLE IDEA, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO VET THEM.
THEY HAVE TO BE RELIABLE BECAUSE IF YOU NOT PROVIDE RELIABLE SERVICE, THERE'S NO POINT IN HAVING A SERVICE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO WE DO NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL AS TO WHAT IT IS YOU WANT US
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TO DO GOING FORWARD.LIKE I SAID, WE CAN DO THIS AS SIMPLY OR AS COMPLEXLY AS YOU LIKE, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED YOUR VOICE ON THE, ON THE MATTER.
AND SOME OF THAT I THINK WILL COME FOLLOWING THE PILOT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE SOME DATA TO WORK WITH TOO.
WHAT, WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, AND FROM, AND GO FROM THERE.
SO SIR, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD MOVE ON AS WE HAVE ENVISIONED THE PILOT PROGRAM? I WOULD SAY, YEAH.
I I, I WOULD JUST ADD, DO WE HAVE TO DO THE PILOT PROGRAM EVERY DAY ALL DAY LONG OR CAN WE JUST PICK SOME, LIKE HERE'S THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET TO THE EXERCISE CLASS.
LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, AND JUST DO A QUICK PILOT PROGRAM ON THAT.
YEAH, WE, WE CAN SET UP THE PARAMETERS.
YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE THING THAT THE SENIOR TRANSPORTATION GROUP WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT IS, IS THE NEED TO PROVIDE A, A COMPREHENSIVE SERVICE IF WE DO THE APPROACH AND THAT WHERE IT STARTED WAS PICK UP THOSE FIVE PEOPLE YEAH.
THEY WANT TO GO TO, THEN YOU'VE TOLD ONE EXERCISE CLASS.
THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT WE PROVIDE RIDES FOR, WHAT ABOUT THE WHOLE HOST OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS AT THE SENIOR CENTER? WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ANYTHING FOR THEM.
WE'RE ONLY PROVIDING IT FOR ONE PARTICULAR CLASS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS, IF YOU WILL.
WELL, AND THE THING ABOUT THAT IS IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM.
YOU DO IT FOR THREE, YOU DO IT FOR THREE MONTHS AND SAY, WE'RE TRYING THIS FOR THREE MONTHS TO SEE HOW IT WORKS AND IF IT WORKS GOOD, WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH THE BUGS, TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT DOING AS AT LEAST COST THAT WE CAN AND GET THE SERVICE FOR THE PEOPLE AND THEN WE CAN EXPAND IT.
BUT TO DO IT FIVE DAYS A WEEK, EIGHT HOURS A DAY, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD PILOT PROGRAM.
I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE NARROWED DOWN.
LET'S SEE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
SO, SO, SO LET'S DO THIS FROM OUR, OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.
UNLESS YOU BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO US ON WHAT THE, BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, WHAT THE WORKABLE PARAMETERS YOU BELIEVE COULD FIT INTO A PILOT PROGRAM AND LET'S BRING, BRING THAT TO US, GET THAT IN FRONT OF US AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT THERE AND GIVE Y'ALL THE DIRECTION YOU NEED TO GO FROM THERE.
ALRIGHT FOLKS, UH, THAT'S THE END OF THE, UH, FIRST SECTION BEFORE WE MOVE INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND RECONVENE, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE, UH, WHOOPS, MY MICROS ON FOR
[4 Application No. PD-29-11, Vacation and Conveyance of Mariners Way-Street Right-of-Way. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-2 vacating a public street right-of-way and Resolution R24-23 authorizing the conveyance of the property formerly within the public street right-of-way, in the Yorktown Crescent Development. ]
THE VACATION AND CONVEYANCE, UH, MARINERS WAY STREET RIGHT AWAY.SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL HIM MR. TIM CROSS TO GIVE THIS UP TO SPEED.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN ROWAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, SINCE THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'LL BE, UH, ADDRESSING YOU ALL IN THIS CAPACITY, I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO SERVE THE BOARD PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS.
WELL, IT'LL BE 35 YEARS A WEEK FROM TODAY, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO THE COUNTY FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
SO THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REQUEST TO, UM, UH, VACATE THE PUBLIC STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND CONVEY IT TO THE DEVELOPER OF THE YORKTOWN CRESCENT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE STREET IN QUESTION IS MARINER'S WAY, WHICH IS THE ENTRANCE ROAD INTO YORKTOWN CRESCENT OFF OF FORT USES BOULEVARD.
UH, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED THROUGH A REZONING IN 2011.
UH, PHASES ONE AND TWO, THE 42 TOWNHOUSES THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE CURRENTLY.
UH, THOSE PHASES WERE PLATTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2017 AND MAY OF 2021 RESPECTIVELY.
UM, AND, UH, HERE'S A PICTURE, UH, OF THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S ABOUT 50 FEET AND WIDTH, ABOUT 400 FEET IN LENGTH.
IT WAS, UH, PLATTED AS A PUBLIC STREET RIGHT OF WAY AND DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC USE.
UH, AS YOU ALL WILL RECALL, NO DOUBT FROM OUR, UH, MARATHON SESSION LAST MONTH, UH, THERE WAS, UH, THE BOARD DID APPROVE A APPLICATION FROM THE DEVELOPER TO, UH, REVISE THE MASTER PLAN FOR YORKTOWN CRESCENT.
UH, AS PART OF THE REDESIGN OF THAT PROJECT, THE DEVELOPER HAS ELECTED TO UTILIZE PRIVATE RATHER THAN PUBLIC STREETS.
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HAPPEN, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THAT WAS, UH, PLATTED WILL NEED TO BE VACATED.AND ONLY THE BOARD CAN DO THAT BECAUSE, UH, VDOT HAS NOT YET ACCEPTED MARINER'S WAY INTO THE STATE SECONDARY SYSTEM.
SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THE DECISION, UH, TO VACATE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THE, UH, RULES ARE, ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, UH, FOR THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.
UH, THE PERSON OR ENTITY REQUESTING THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION, UH, PAYS THE COST OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED, UH, FOR BOTH VACATING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND, UM, UH, CONVEYING THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE DEVELOPER.
SO THE REQUEST ARE PAYS FOR THE COST OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, PAYS TO, UH, PREPARE AND RECORD THE PLATS THAT WILL NEED TO BE, UH, RECORDED, UH, ASSUMING THE REQUEST IS APPROVED.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'S A NOMINAL SALE PRICE.
THE COUNTY'S, UH, PROCEDURE, NORMAL PROCEDURE IN THESE SITUATIONS IS JUST TO CHARGE A VERY NOMINAL SALE PRICE.
TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR, UH, COUNTY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY FINANCIAL STAKE IN THIS PROPERTY.
WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY A PASS THROUGH AGENT.
THE, UH, DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, ORDINARILY CONVEYS TO THE COUNTY AND THEN IT GOES TO VDOT ONCE THEY ACCEPT IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
SO GIVEN THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER IS PAYING ALL THE COSTS, THEY'RE INVOLVED, UH, WE JUST, WE, OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO CHARGE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT FOR THE, UH, CONVEYANCE.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF BOTH THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 24 DASH TWO AND THEN, UH, CONVEYANCE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY THROUGH RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 23.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS YORKTOWN CRESCENT, LLC.
UH, THEY'RE REPRESENTED TONIGHT BY MR. VERNON GETTY, AND HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS, MR. ROY? OKAY, MR. DREWRY.
THANKS CROSS AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON 35, MR. CROSS, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 35 YEARS OF FINISHING UP HERE.
UM, ON THE PACKAGE READ AHEAD IDENTIFIES, UM, THAT THE STREETS MUST BE DESIGNED TO MEET OR EXCEED THE GEOMETRIC STANDARDS SPECIFIED BY VDOT.
IT ALSO STATES THAT IT MUST MEET, UH, IN ANOTHER.HERE, THAT CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS SPECIFIED BY VDOT.
NOW THROUGHOUT THE, THE DOCUMENT, IT, UH, UH, IN FACT LATER ON, THERE'S A PRIVATE STREETS MUST BE INSPECTED, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE ROAD DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT MEETS, EXCEEDS THE VO STANDARDS FOR PUBLIC ROADS.
SO ARE WE LEAVING OUT ANY STANDARDS HERE? I MEAN, NO.
UH, THEY JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THOSE GEOMETRICS.
AS FAR AS GEOMETRIC STANDARDS, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS PAVEMENT WITH RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, UH, AND THEN, UH, STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD ITSELF.
AND, UH, THE INSPECTOR JUST NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE MET.
NOW, THERE ARE OTHER VDOT STANDARDS LIKE, UH, UH, UH, CULDESAC DESIGNS AND, AND RIGHT.
UH, ACCESS MAN, THAT KIND OF THING.
THOSE DON'T FALL UNDER, UH, GEOMETRIC STANDARDS.
IT, IT KIND OF DREW MY ATTENTION BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT VDOT REQUIRES.
UM, WHEN I SEE A, A, A DESIGN LIKE THIS, UM, WHERE A PRIVATE ROAD POPS UP THE MIDDLE OF PUBLIC ROADS BECAUSE THEY'RE PUBLIC ROADS AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS COMMUNITY, CORRECT? WELL, THE ROADS SURROUNDING IT ARE PUBLIC FOR BOULEVARD.
SO THEN MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE WHY? WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY IS THIS ONE ROAD RUNNING THROUGH THE STARTING OFF AT THE, AT THE, WHERE IS THAT FORT USES BOULEVARD AND COMING IN? WHY IS THIS ONE ROAD, UH, PUBLIC, I MEAN, PRIVATE, ALL THE OTHER, WELL, ACTUALLY ALL THE ROADS, UH, INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT ARE GOING TO BE PRIVATE ROADS.
THIS, THIS HAPPENS THROUGH THE ONE THAT'S BEEN, THAT ONE DRAWN.
SO THEN, SO WHAT HAPPENED? BUT IF ALL OF 'EM WERE LIKE THAT, THEN WHY DID THIS ONE NOT BE INCLUDED ORIGINALLY? WELL, THIS WAS JUST THE FIRST ROAD THAT WAS PLATTED, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC USE.
THE OTHER ROADS HAVEN'T BEEN PLATTED YET AND THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT YET, SO THEY'RE JUST, THEY STILL, SO WE'RE JUST DOING SLOPE THAT LAND LAND STILL BELONGS TO THE DEVELOPER? CORRECT.
WELL THEN IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME, I THOUGHT THIS WAS KIND OF BEING DONE BY ITSELF IN A SENSE THAT IT WAS, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WASN'T GONNA BE INCLUDED WITH OTHER PRIVATE
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ROADS.SO, MR. CROSS, I KNOW WE HAVE A FORMAL ACCOMMODATION LATER IN THE PROGRAM FOR YOU, BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE HERE WITH THE COUNTY.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
I, I WOULD SAY HOPEFULLY THIS WAS AN EASY ONE TO WRAP UP WITH, BUT AFTER 35 YEARS ARE PROBABLY ALL PRETTY EASY AT THIS POINT.
YOU MADE A MENTION ALONG THE PRESENTATION ABOUT DOING THIS NOW, EVEN THOUGH VDOT HASN'T HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
UH, ONLY THE COUNTY CAN VACATE THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE VDOT HAS NOT ACCEPTED INTO THE STATE SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE KIND OF THE MIDDLEMAN IN THIS, IN THIS PROCESS, WHEN A SUBDIVISION GETS BUILT, THE DEVELOPER, UH, UH, BUILDS IT TO, BUILDS THE ROADS TO VDOT STANDARDS.
THEY'RE DEDICATED, UH, FOR PUBLIC USE INITIALLY TO THE COUNTY.
AND THEN ONCE VDOT ACCEPTS THOSE ROADS INTO THE SYSTEM, UH, THEN THEY BECOME VDO S RESPONSIBILITY AND THE COUNTY FALLS OUT OF IT.
SO SINCE THEY'RE NOT GOING INTO SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM, WE'RE JUST GONNA VACATE IT NOW.
THEY'RE YOUR, THEY'RE ROADS, RIGHT? THERE'S NO REASON WHY THE COUNTY WOULD WANNA HOLD ONTO IT, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND SAY ANY, SAY A FEW WORDS OR THOUGHTS MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M VERNON GETTY OF 1177 JAMESTOWN ROAD HERE FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND IF I COULD, I'D FIRST LIKE TO THANK TIM FOR ALL HIS WORK.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH TIM FOR 35 YEARS AND HE'S BEEN THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL AND IT'S BEEN BEEN A JOY, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE OF US, BUT, OKAY.
MR. DREWRY, ANYTHING GOOD MR. SHEPHERD? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SO I WOULD LIKE NOW OPEN UP THIS UP FOR, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO SIGN UP.
DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SHARE ANY THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
SEE, WE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 24 DASH TWO.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MOTION? ANYONE? OKAY.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH TWO TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
SO NOW RELATED, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 23.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE, UH, MS. NOLL, UM, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? OKAY, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. KNOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 23 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
AND, UM, WELL WRAP UP ON A, ON A, ON A SUCCESS THERE.
[5 Application No. UP-1027-24, Cliff’s Automotive LLC. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-32 to authorize truck sales, rental, and service located at 8427 George Washington Memorial Highway. ]
ON.WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 32 FOR, UH, CLIFFS AUTOMOTIVE, LLC TO AUTHORIZED TRUCK SALES, RENTAL AND SERVICE AT THEIR LOCATION ON 84 27 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.
AND I WILL NOW CALL OUR NEW PRESENTER.
AND I KNOW WE MET, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT YOUR, YOUR NAME, SO HELP ME.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, UH, FACILITY TO RENT TRUCKS AT 8 4 2 7 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS OCCUPIED BY CLIFFS AUTOMOTIVE, IS A 1.9 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED ON ROUTE 17 ACROSS FROM THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED GB FOR GENERAL BUSINESS AND DESIGNATED GB IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ZONED GB AND R 20 FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH IS A VACANT PARCEL, WHICH IS THE FUTURE SITE OF RIVERSIDE.
HE HEATING AND COOLING TO THE EAST IS ROUTE 17 AND THE YORKTOWN, THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY AND TO THE SOUTH IS CLA CLAREMONT
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WAY AND BEYOND THAT IS A VACANT 12.5 ACRE PARCEL WITH AN ABANDONED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME ZONED GB AND TO THE WEST IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME.THE APPLICANT, MR. FAIRBANKS, IS REQUESTING TO RENT THREE PENSKE TRUCKS, WHICH WOULD BE PARKED NEXT TO THE GOLF CARTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT HE APPLIED FOR
THE ZONING ORDINANCE PERMITS HEAVY TRUCK RENTALS IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ONLY UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT RECOGNIZES THAT AUTO RELATED USES COULD HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE CHARACTER AND AESTHETIC QUALITY OF THE COUNTY'S MAJOR QUARTERS, AND THAT SOME AREAS MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR AUTO RELATED USES UNDER ANY CONDITIONS.
IN THIS CASE, THE AUTO RELATED USE AND AUTO REPAIR FACILITY HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY REQUESTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER, UM, ACCESSORY TRUCK RENTALS.
STAFF HAS PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LIMITING THE NUMBER OF RENTAL TRUCKS THAT CAN BE DISPLAYED AT ANY ONE TIME TO THREE TO ENSURE THAT THE SCALE OF THE OPERATION REMAINS SMALL.
THE NARRATIVE DESCRIPTION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICATION, UM, BY THE APPLICANT STATES THAT ALL TRUCKS WOULD BE PARKED OUTSIDE THE BUILDING DURING THE HOURS THAT CLIFF'S AUTOMOTIVE IS NOT OPEN AND THAT THE TRUCKS WOULD BE USED FOR RENTAL PURPOSES LOCALLY AND ONE WAY THE TRUCKS MAY BE RETURNED TO THE LOCATION.
HOWEVER, TRUCKS MAY BE DROPPED OFF TO OTHER LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF VIRGINIA.
AND STAFF HAS INCLUDED THIS CONDITION, UH, OF APPROVAL TO LIMIT THE VISUAL IMPACT OF THE OPERATION.
ON MAY 16TH, 2023, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION TO ALLOW THE SALE OF GOLF CARTS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS TWO EXISTING DRIVEWAYS, ONE OF WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 85 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF CLAREMONT WAY AND ROUTE 17.
THIS ENTRANCE DOES NOT MEET VDO T'S CURRENT ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRE THIS ENTRANCE TO BE CLOSED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
CLOSING THIS DRIVEWAY WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS AND IMPROVE SAFETY IN THAT INTERSECTION.
THEREFORE, STAFF HAS PROPOSED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THAT THE ENTRANCE BE CLOSED AND CONVERTED INTO A LANDSCAPE YARD THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
TO FURTHER BEAUTIFY THE PROPERTY, STAFF HAS PROPOSED AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THAT THIS APPLICANT PLANT PLANT FOUR EVERGREEN SHRUBS OF AT LEAST TWO FEET IN HEIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED GOLF CART DISPLAY.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE TRUCK RENTAL AREA TO BE PAVED OR GRAVELED AND DOES NOT ALLOW ANY VEHICLES DISPLAYED FOR RENT TO BE PARKED OR GRASSED ON GRASS OR LANDSCAPE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL TO PARK THE TRUCKS IN THE PAVED AREA MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT.
VDOT HAS REQUESTED THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, UH, CLOSED AND CONVERTED INTO A FRONT LANDSCAPE YARD AND THE APPLICANT SHALL PLANT FOUR EVERGREEN SHRUBS OF AT LEAST TWO FEET IN HEIGHT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ALONG ROUTE 17.
IN, IN STAFF'S OPINION, ALLOWING AN EXISTING AUTO REPAIR FACILITY TO HAVE ACCESSORY TRUCK RENTAL RENTALS REPRESENTS A FAIRLY SMALL INCREASE IN INTENSITY OF USE.
GIVEN THE SMALL SCALE OF THE PROPOSED USE.
STAFF BELIEVES IT IS UNLIKELY TO HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND STAFF BELIEVES ANY IMPACT ON TRAFFIC WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE.
IN ADDITION, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH MAKE THE NEARBY INTERSECTION SAFER AND IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY WITH LANDSCAPING.
FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 24 DASH 32.
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PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION AT ITS JANUARY 10TH, 2024 MEETING AND VOTED SIX TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, START HERE.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROY? YES, ALDI, UM, THE EXISTING LOCATION, UH, HAS AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT SUGGESTS WHETHER TRUCK REPAIRS WOULD BE DONE THERE OR WHETHER THEY'RE RESTRICTED FROM DOING TRUCK REPAIRS ON THIS, UH, LOCATION.
I WOULD'VE EXPECTED, UM, A STATEMENT IN HERE OR A PROVISION OF THE COUNTY, UM, STATING THAT NO TRUCK REPAIRS WOULD, WOULD, WOULD TAKE PLACE.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
UM, I, AND THEY NEVER, UH, THE APPLICANT NEVER SPOKE ABOUT REPAIRING TRUCKS IN THE, IN THE SITE.
UM, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PENSKE HERE WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THAT WAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
UM, AS FAR AS IT WOULD JUST BE RENTING OUT THE TRUCKS.
UM, SO THEY DO TRUCK REPAIRS THERE NOW, BUT NOT ON THE PENSKE TRUCKS, CORRECT? WELL, THEY, I KNOW THEY DO CAR REPAIRS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO, TO OUR ATTENTION AND, UM, THE PENSKE REPRESENTATIVE CAN SPEAK ON THAT MRS. SIMKINS.
UH, BUT UM, WE STRICTLY TALKED ABOUT RENTAL OF THE PENSKE TRUCKS.
YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE TRUCK.
I WAS THINK I WAS TRYING TO ANSWER DOUG'S QUESTION.
THEY, IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK IT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
THEY DON'T JUST INSPECT CARS, THEY DO WORK ON VEHICLES.
SO THEY COULD WORK ON TRUCKS AS WELL AS CARS, PERSONAL CARS AND TRUCKS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS, UH, LARGE SCALE TRUCKS, TRANSPORT TRUCKS.
NOW I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THAT STARTING TO BECOME THE BUSINESS OWNER.
SO, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TWO DRIVEWAYS REAL QUICK? SURE.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, YOU'RE TAKING VDOT IS RECOMMENDING TAKING AWAY THE SECOND DRIVEWAY BUT NOT INCREASING THE OTHER DRIVEWAY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE.
SO THEY'RE TAKING AWAY THE SECOND ENTRANCE, WHICH IS, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE ENTRANCE, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING THE OTHER DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
I WOULD THINK IF THEY'RE GIVING UP ONE DRIVEWAY, THEY COULD MAKE THE OTHER DRIVEWAY LARGER BECAUSE THEY, THERE USUALLY A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S, UH, INSPECTION TIME.
I MEAN, THEY EVEN HAVE CARS PARKED ON 17 AT TIMES.
AND, AND I THINK THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN RID OF THAT, UH, THE LINE THAT USED TO FORM BACK HERE.
THEY'VE GOTTEN RID OF THAT AND HE HAS IT PRETTY MUCH UNDER CONTROL WHERE ALL OF THE CARS ARE IN HERE.
THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE CLOSED.
AND THIS ONE, THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT EXPANDING AND HE, HE CAN'T GO FURTHER NORTH, I THINK.
'CAUSE HE HITS UP HIS, HIS BORDER.
WELL, I, I GUESS THE, THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ENTRANCE BEING TOO SMALL.
BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. SHEPHERD? YEAH.
UH, THERE'S ONE, YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT PLANTING SOME TREES THERE RIGHT NEAR THE TOP CIRCLE.
SO, SO WHO REQUIRES THE PLANTING OF THOSE BUSHES THERE? COUNTY? IS THAT THE COUNTY? I THINK SO.
IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE, OF THE COUNTY.
AND I'VE SEEN THE STAFF COME IN AND TRY TO BURY A, BURY A BUSINESS IN TREES BEFORE.
UH, WE DID THAT ON, ON, UH, HAMPTON HIGHWAY AND VICTORY BOULEVARD.
UM, SO, AND YOU SAID YOU, THIS IS IN FRONT OF THE, UH,
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GOLF CART CARTS? YEAH.SO THE GOLF CARTS WOULD BE, SO WHY WOULD WE PLANT BUSHES IN FRONT OF GOLF CARTS THAT THEY'RE SELLING? AND THE IDEA IS FOR THE BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO SELL AND SHOW THEIR WARES.
WELL, THIS IS, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE MORE FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSES.
YOU STILL, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSES.
BUT YOU WOULD STILL SEE THE GOLF CARTS HERE.
YOU WOULD STILL, WELL YOU SAID, I THOUGHT THE WAY YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, THEY WERE PLANTED IN, YOU SAID IN FRONT OF THE GOLF CARTS.
IF I CAN JUST CHANGE THE SLIDE, LET ME SEE WHERE THE GOLF CARTS ARE GONNA BE.
SO THE, THE EVERGREENS ARE GONNA BE HERE AND YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THE GOLF CARTS HERE.
AND THOSE CARS WILL NOT BE THERE.
SO, SO, SO THERE'S ADEQUATE VISIBILITY FOR THE GOLF CARTS? YES.
AND THE SECOND BLOCK IS FOR THE PENSKE TRUCKS, AND THEN THIS IS FOR THE PENSKE TRUCKS? CORRECT.
SO THESE ARE PENSKE OWNED TRUCKS.
CLIFF IS JUST, CLIFF'S IS JUST DOING THE RENTAL FOR THEM, CORRECT? Y YES.
CLIFFS IS GONNA BE PROVIDING THE SPACE AND THE AREA FOR PENSKE.
UM, AND THEN, THEN DOING THE ADMINISTRATION DO FOR THE RENTALS AND COLLECTING THE MONEY AND SO FORTH.
OR, UM, THAT I, I CAN DEFER TO THE, UH, OKAY.
REPRESENTATIVE AND THEN SHE, SHE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT IN, IN THIS SCENARIO, WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY TYPE OF VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THE BACKSIDE ADJACENT TO THE OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
OR IS THAT COMING LATER WITH WHEN THE, WHEN THAT PROPERTY GETS BILLED OUT? I MEAN, YOU ALREADY HAD NATURAL BARRIER.
YOU, BECAUSE THERE'S USUALLY WE SEE SOME TYPE OF DEMARCATION BETWEEN TWO, TWO PROPERTY LINES.
AND HERE IT'S DOESN'T REALLY EXIST.
I MEAN, WHEN I WENT TO THE SITE, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT LIKE A CLEAR DEMARCATION, BUT THIS, I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL THAT THIS AREA HERE BELONGS TO CLIFFS.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SINCE THIS PICTURE.
I, I KNOW THAT THE, OR THE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO LIMIT THE, TO FOUR TRUCKS, RIGHT? 3, 3, 3 TRUCKS.
BUT WITH THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, IT, WITH VEHICLES ARE COMING BACK TO THIS LOCATION, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD END UP WITH MORE THAN THREE.
NOW THAT WAS ADDRESSED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT CAN YOU GO IN A LITTLE BIT DETAIL ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT? SO WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN THREE TRUCKS AT ANY ONE TIME ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE THERE COULD BE A FOURTH ONE, MRS. MS. SIMKINS HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THE FOURTH ONE WOULD BE PICKED UP AND TAKEN TO ANOTHER PENSKE LOCATION SO THAT THEY WOULD, UM, UH, ONLY STAY WITH THE THREE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A FOURTH OR A FIFTH ONE.
SO SOMEBODY WOULD COME AND PICK UP WHATEVER EXTRA TRUCK THERE IS AND TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE, PENSKE IS GONNA HANDLE THAT? YES.
UM, NOW THE QUESTIONS, WE CAN INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AS THE APPLICANT HERE.
SHE'S THE PENSKE REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, WELL, SO WHY DON'T WE, WE TALK REAL QUICK.
SO THE, UM, THESE ARE PENSKE ASSETS, CORRECT? THESE ARE PENSKE VEHICLES? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND CLIFF IS ACTING AS YOUR CLIFF'S ACTING AS YOUR AGENT TO DO THE RENTAL AND COLLECTIVE FEES AND SO FORTH? CORRECT.
SO PENSKE THEN DOES ALL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS ON HIM? YES.
WE WOULD BE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLES.
HE'S STRICTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RENTING ONLY.
AND YOU, AND YOU HAVE A LOCATION FOR THAT? THAT'S NOT CLIFF'S FOR THAT TIME? WE DO, WE HAVE A PENSKE LOCATION DISTRICT OFFICE LOCATED ON NINE RESERVOIR WARD, UM, ROAD IN NEWPORT NEWS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD GO.
HOW, HOW, UM, WHAT IS THE AGE OF THOSE, OF THE FLEETS? UM, WE KEEP OUR TRUCKS AND OUR RENTAL FLEET FOR A MAX OF FIVE YEARS, TYPICALLY.
SO THEY'RE FAIRLY NEWER UNITS.
I'M SORRY, I, I GO ON TO Y'ALL FIRST.
SO,
UM, ALRIGHT, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DON'T, DIDN'T EVERYBODY SIGN UP? ANYBODY INTERESTED IN SPEAKING OF THIS? ALL RIGHT.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ANYBODY? MS. MS. JURY? MS. SHEPHERD? NOPE.
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YEAH, I'VE, I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT, IT STATES HEAVY TRUCK SALES, RENTAL AND SERVICE, AND THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A, A RES, A RE A REVISION TO THE RESOLUTION THAT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT SERVICE OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS IS NOT PERMITTED IN THIS LOCATION OR SALES.
WHAT ABOUT SERVICE? BUT SALES SALE IS FINE.
BUT DOES, IS IT ALREADY AUTHORIZED? DO TRUCKS ALREADY? I MEAN, WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS IT THE BUSINESS ALREADY AUTHORIZED TO DO THIS KIND OF SERVICE TO OTHER TRUCKS? I DON'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT TO BE CAN WE GET SOMEBODY TO COME SPEAK TO THAT, BUT, WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT, I DON'T, YOU TALKING, DOUG, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGER TRUCKS.
THEY DO, THEY DO PERSONAL, YEAH.
WELL, THE FIRST THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THE RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY SAYS LIMITED TO THREE TRUCK RENTALS.
SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED.
IF THEY'RE DOING HEAVY TRUCK REPAIRS, NOW THEY'RE ENTITLED TO DO THAT.
BUT ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
SO, MR. FAIRBANKS, UNFORTUNATELY ISN'T HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE DOING HEAVY TRUCK REPAIRS OR JUST SERVICE.
I, I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT THE POINT IS, THE RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY LIMITS THE USE PERMIT TO, UH, THREE TRUCK RENTALS AND DOES NOT AUTHORIZE, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING DONE.
AND, AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WHEN WE ASK PENSKE OR THE PENSKE ASSETS WHO DOES REPAIR, THEY DO AND DO, DO THEY DO THEM OFFSITE? SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THE WORDING SAYS SERVICE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOT ME NERVOUS.
WHY DOES IT STATE SERVICE? BECAUSE IN THE TABLE OF LAND USES, ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE LUMPED TOGETHER.
UH, THEY'RE ALL LISTED AS AS CATEGORY, UH, UH, CATEGORY 12, NUMBERS FIVE A AND SIX.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT, FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PUT IN THAT CLAUSE ABOUT LIMITED TO THREE TRUCK RENTALS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO MISUNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS WHAT WAS BEING PERMITTED.
BUT THE REASON THAT THEY'RE ALL LUMPED TOGETHER LIKE THAT IS, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE LISTED THEN THE TABLE OF LAND USE IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 32.
THANK YOU, MS. HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD? ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT.
YOU ALREADY HAD A MOTION BY MR. SHEPHERD.
SO WE'LL FALL BACK ON MR. SHEPHERD AND WE'RE READY FOR ROLL CALL.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 32 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
[6 Camera Speed Monitoring and Enforcement in School Crossing Zones. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 24-3 to incorporate part of Virginia Code §46.2-882.1 into the County Code as Camera Speed Monitoring and Enforcement in School Crossing Zones. ]
ON THE AGENDA, PROPOSED ORDINANCE R 24 DASH THREE CAMERA SPEED MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOL CROSSING ZONES TO INCORPORATE PART OF THE AGENDA CODE INTO COUNTY CODE AS CAMERA SPEED MONITORING, ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL CROSS THE ZONE.AND MS. UH, SHERIFF MONTGOMERY, COULD YOU PLEASE COME SPEAK TO US ABOUT THAT MICROPHONE? MICROPHONE.
AT THE JANUARY THE 16TH BOARD MEETING, I CAME BEFORE YOU AND TALKED ABOUT COMPLAINTS THAT I HAD GOTTEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR ABOUT EXCESSIVE SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES.
AND THAT WE HAD DONE A STUDY, UH, WITH A RADAR CAM, RADAR CAMERA ENFORCEMENT COMPANY AT FIVE SCHOOL ZONES IN YORK COUNTY.
AND IN A FIVE DAY PERIOD IN NOVEMBER, THEY RECORDED 3,725 VIOLATIONS OF AT LEAST 11 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE ABOVE THE POSTED SPEED, WHICH IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR ME.
SO TONIGHT BEFORE YOU, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON A, AN ORDINANCE, AN ENABLING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD TO SELECT A COMPANY TO INSTALL THESE RADAR AND ENFORCE CAMERAS IN FIVE SCHOOL ZONES IN YORK COUNTY, AND TO HOPEFULLY HAVE THEM IN PLACE WITH A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENT DURING THE SUMMER SO THAT THEY'LL BE IN PLACE NEXT YEAR BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
UH, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATUTE OR WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, TONIGHT
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I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.UM, IN THE PACKAGE, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT IN THERE IT STATES SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE REVENUE, UH, WILL GO TO THE COUNTY, GOES TO THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND, AND THE GUY AND THE COMPANY COLLECTS IT AND GETS A CERTAIN SMALL AMOUNT.
UM, AND THEN THE REVENUE GOES TO THE COUNTY.
NOW, WHEN THAT'S WHEN THAT THE WORDING IS SAID LIKE THAT, THAT IMPLIES TO ME THAT IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL REVENUE GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND BY STATUTE, GENERAL FUND.
UM, NOW, COUPLE, COUPLE, I DUNNO, YEARS BACK OR BOARDS BACK, WE ENDED UP A PROBLEM WITH, UH, PARKING AND, UH, PEOPLE WERE BEING FINED FOR PARKING.
AND THEN I TALKED TO, AT THAT TIME, SHERIFF DIGS, AND IT WAS A BREAKDOWN OF THE PENALTIES OF WHERE THE REVENUE WENT.
AND IT WENT TO VARIOUS THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC EDUCATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH APPLIES THEN APPLIES THAT, THAT THIS REVENUE COMING BACK TO THE JOURNAL FUND IS HANDLED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF IT'S A SPEEDING CITATION, I GUESS.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS REALLY QUESTION REALLY GOES TO YOU.
IT MAY GO TO THE, TO THE, MY FELLOW SUPERVISORS HERE THAT I'M, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US COLLECTING IN THE GENERAL REVENUE, UH, FINES.
AND MY PROBLEM GOES BACK TO MULTIPLE STATES, UH, LIKE GEORGIA, FLORIDA, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THE GOVERNOR HAD TO STEP IN AND PULL THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM THE CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE THEY WERE USING IT TO GENERATE REVENUE.
AND IT JUST, IT JUST, I'M AFRAID THAT WHAT THIS SOUNDS LIKE, IT JUST SMACKS OF US GENERATING REVENUES.
AND IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THE FUNDS I, I FEEL, NEED TO BE, UH, DESIGNATED WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO GO TO THE COURT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, BECAUSE THEN THE COURT CAN USE THAT.
'CAUSE THEY NEVER HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE TO SPRUCE UP THE COURT SYSTEM.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE NOT IN THE GENERAL, NOT AS A GENERAL FUND ITEM, BUT IT NEEDS TO GO TO SOMEHOW GET CONVEYED AWAY FROM US TO EITHER SUPPORT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SOME PROGRAM IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SOME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOME PART OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT NOT AS A, JUST SO WAIT, WE'RE GONNA GET RICH OFF THIS BECAUSE THAT'S GUARANTEE THAT'S HOW IT COMES ACROSS.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, SHERIFF, YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, THE BY STATUTE, THE MONEY IS RETURNED TO THE LOCALITY.
WHAT YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR FINANCE PEOPLE, AND I BE INVOLVED IN DISCUSSION AS WELL.
WHAT YOU DECIDE TO DO WITH THAT, THOSE FUNDS IS AT YOUR DISCRETION.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOME OF THE LOCALITIES I'VE TALKED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, ONE LOCALITY IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE BUILT A PARK.
UH, SOME OF THE LOCALITIES ARE USING IT TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TOWARDS THINGS LIKE POLICE EQUIPMENT, POLICE VEHICLES, THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY FOR.
SO THIS GEN, THIS REVENUE, WHEN IT'S GENERATED, COULD OFFSET THOSE COSTS, UH, DURING THE, UH, OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY REALLY RESTRICTIONS OTHER THAN WHERE THE MONEY HAS TO BE SENT TO BY THE SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT MANAGES THIS PROGRAM INITIALLY.
WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE IS UP TO YOUR DISCRETION.
I, WELL, IF IT'S GOES BY CODE TO OUR GENERAL FUND, THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, IN THE CITIZENS' BEST INTEREST TO NOT SEE THEIR GOVERNMENT AS A, AS THEIR FINES A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THEIR, FOR OUR, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SAFETY, A VERY IMPORTANT SAFETY PROGRAM.
BUT SOMEHOW IT GOES BACK INTO A SAFETY PROGRAM WITHIN OUR BUDGET, VERY SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS SUCH.
THAT'S WHAT, JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, JUST TO COMMENT THAT THE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHOWED ME WERE ASTOUNDING.
UM, I GUESS I WAS JUST FLABBERGASTED AT WHAT WE WENT OVER.
AND, UH, SO OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
AND IF THIS WILL DO IT, THEN I CERTAINLY AM FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE BETTER SERVED FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS, OUR BUS DRIVERS, AND PEOPLE AROUND OUR, OUR SCHOOLS.
WELL, AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION IN JANUARY, THERE ARE LOCALITIES IN VIRGINIA THAT I'VE SEEN A 92% REDUCTION IN A FAIRLY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
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I PULLED UP SOME STATISTICS FROM SUFFOLK THAT RECENTLY STARTED, AND LAST YEAR DURING THEIR 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT, WHERE YOU GET WARNINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION PORTION OF THIS, THEY HAD 35,000 VIOLATIONS AT THE 10 OR 11 SCHOOLS THAT THEY WERE USING.AND WHEN THEY WENT LIVE 30 DAYS LATER, THAT DROPPED DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER 12,000.
SO THEY HAD WELL OVER A, A 50% REDUCTION JUST IN 30 DAYS JUST WITH THE EDUCATION PROCESS OF IT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT HERE IN YORK COUNTY, WE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR SUCCESS, MR. ROY.
UM, SO I I, I DROVE PAST BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL A COUPLE TIMES IN THE PAST WEEK, AND ON TWO OCCASIONS NOTED THAT THE WESTBOUND FLASHING LIGHTS WEREN'T WORKING AND THE EASTBOUND FLASHING LIGHTS WERE
SO IF, IF THE CAMERAS ARE OPERATING, BUT THE LIGHTS AREN'T, THAT'S, THAT'S A CLEAR, CLEARER PROBLEM.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO SYSTEMS AREN'T LINKED CLEARLY TOGETHER.
WELL, BOTH SOFTWARE COMPANIES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING TO GO IN AND THEY WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AND THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THE SYSTEM'S TURNED ON.
SO ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED AND ALL THE LIGHTS HAVE TO BE WORKING.
THERE'S SIGNAGE THAT HAS TO BE PUT OUT BY THE STATUTE, A THOUSAND FEET PRIOR TO THE SCHOOL ZONE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
IF YOU'RE MONITORING BOTH DIRECTIONS THAT WARN YOU A THOUSAND FEET AHEAD, YOU'RE ENTERING A RADAR ENFORCED SCHOOL ENFORCEMENT ZONE.
THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, IF WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON THOSE LIGHTS AT BRUTON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEEDERS IN THE SCHOOL ZONES, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU, HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE WE HAD IN, IN THE SCHOOL ZONES IN 2023? WE HAD 17.
DID ANYTHING, UH, INVOLVE CHILDREN WHO WERE CROSSING THE STREET? NO, NONE THAT WERE CROSSING THE STREET.
SO WHAT, DID WE HAVE ANY CHILDREN THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, UH, IN THE ACCIDENTS? I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY IF THERE WERE ANY CHILDREN IN THE VEHICLES OR NOT.
YOU WANT GRAB, THAT'S JUST THAT ONE.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, THIS IS GOING, IF I WAS READING, YOU READ THE REIDHEAD, ACTUALLY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DEPUTY IN CHARGE OF, OF CHECKING THE ADDRESSES AND, AND THE LICENSE PLATES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
UH, BEFORE YOU CAN ISSUE A TICKET, THE, THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT A CERTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AT THE END OF EACH DAY, THE COMPANY WILL SEND US THE VIOLATIONS FOR THAT DAY.
A DEPUTY WILL HAVE TO REVIEW EACH ONE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE LICENSE PLATE TO SEE THAT IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PROVIDED BY THE DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES.
AND THEN, THEN YOU MAIL THE SUMMONS TO THEM.
NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T PAY THAT SUMMONS? THE SUMMONS TELLS THEM THEY HAVE, I KNOW WHAT THE SUMMON TELLS 'EM.
WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DO NOT PAY THE SUMMONS? IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE A MAGISTRATE AND GET A SPECIFIC SUMMONS THAT WOULD BE MAILED TO THEM THAT FORCES THEM TO COME TO COURT.
IT'S A BENCH WARRANT, AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT ARIZONA HAD THESE, THESE, UH, CAMERAS IN THE SCHOOL ZONES AND THEY'VE TAKEN THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT IT WAS NOT ENFORCEABLE.
WELL, IN VIRGINIA, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ALREADY MULTIPLE LOCALITIES IN VIRGINIA THAT HAVE HAD THIS SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY HERE IN THIS AREA.
CHESAPEAKE, PORTSMOUTH, SUFFOLK, UM, SEVERAL JURISDICTIONS, FARER COUNTY, AND THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE.
THERE'S A WELL OVER A DOZEN THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
BUT
JUST LIKE I WAS NOT HAPPY WHEN NEWPORT NEWS PUT THE CAMERAS AT THE, AT THE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND THE PEOPLE ASKED FOR US TO DO THAT TOO.
AND I, UNLESS THERE IS A REAL CRYING NEED FOR IT SAFETY WISE, AND, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN EXHIBIT THE, THE PROBLEMS. I REALLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND YOU DO A WONDERFUL JOB IN WHAT YOU DO.
AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT YOU ARE SHERIFF.
BUT I THINK SMALL STEPS ARE BETTER.
AND THIS IS NOT A, A, A SMALL STEP.
AND I'D RATHER SEE THE SIGNAGE IMPROVED AT THE SCHOOLS FIRST, SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN FAR ENOUGH BACK SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE, MAKE
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SLOW DOWN THEIR CAR SO THAT THEY MEET THE 35 MILES AN HOUR REQUIREMENT.WELL, THAT'S STATED THIS CODE REQUIRES A SIGN A THOUSAND FEET PRIOR TO ENTERING IN THAT ZONE.
SO THERE'LL BE A THOUSAND FEET WARNING ALONG WITH THE FLASHING LIGHTS, ALONG WITH A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC INFORMATION AND A 30 DAY TRIAL.
WELL, I THINK I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE FLASHING LIGHTS WITHOUT HAVING THE FINE.
UM, I THINK YOU, YOU ADDRESSED ONE QUESTION ABOUT WHO ULTIMATELY DECIDES WHETHER SOMEBODY'S A VIOLATION AND THAT'S GONNA BE A, A, UH, DEPUTIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OUTTA YOUR DEPARTMENT.
NOBODY GETS FINED UNTIL A DEPUTY DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT A VIOLATION HAS HAPPENED, SIR.
HE HAS TO VALIDATE THE SUMMONS.
SECOND OF ALL, JUST CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE BY STATE CODE, THESE CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE DEPLOYED IN SCHOOL ZONES AND CONSTRUCTION ZONES.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE THESE SPREAD ALL AROUND, ALL AROUND THE COUNTY BY STATE CODE.
WE'RE LIMITED TO WHERE THEY CAN GO.
IN THIS CASE, UNDER CURRENT STATE LAW, THEY'RE ONLY YOU ABLE TO BE INSTALLED IN SCHOOL ZONES AND TRAFFIC AND UH, WORK ZONES.
AND THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE ACTIVE DURING SCHOOL HOURS DROPPING OFF.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ACTIVE ALL DAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIGNS A THOUSAND FEET BEFORE THE START OF THE SCHOOL.
UM, THE LINE START IN THE SCHOOL ZONE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG SIGN THERE TO SAY, HEY, COMING UP, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA RETAIN THE FLASHING LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
CORRECT? THAT, HEY, YOU ARE NOW ENTERING A SCHOOL ZONE AT THIS POINT.
YOU SHOULD BE AT WHATEVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS.
WE ALSO INTEND DURING THE SUMMER TO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLICITY ABOUT THIS ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
WE'RE GONNA PARTNER WITH YORK COUNTY'S WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE A 30 DAY PERIOD WHEN IT GOES ACTIVE, THAT FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS, THE PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THERE WILL ONLY RECEIVE A WARNING SUMMONS.
AND AS I STATED A MINUTE AGO, THE CITY OF SUFFOLK, WHEN THEY DID THAT LAST YEAR, HAD 35,000 VIOLATIONS IN THEIR 30 DAY WARNING PERIOD.
AND WHEN THEY WENT LIVE, THAT DROPPED DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER 12,000 OR MORE THAN 50% REDUCTION IN SPEEDING IN 30 DAYS.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, A WELL, UH, A VERY GOOD USE OF THIS PRODUCT AND IT ENHANCES PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, WILL EITHER YOUR DEPARTMENT OR THE COMPANY BE ABLE TO GIVE US A READOUT ON, I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE THE VIOLATORS ARE, ARE FROM, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE LOCAL RESIDENTS VERSUS COMING THROUGH, ESPECIALLY ON 17, MAYBE IN BRUTON, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PASSING THROUGH THE COUNTY AND BLOWING THROUGH OUR, UM, SCHOOL ZONES THAT AREN'T LOCAL RESIDENTS? I'M INTERESTED.
STATISTICS HAVE TO BE KEPT AND WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE ANNUALLY, HOW MANY SUMMONSES WERE ISSUED, HOW MANY OF THOSE SUMMONSES WERE PAID.
NOW I HAVEN'T DI UH, GONE DOWN DEEP ENOUGH TO SEE IF IT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES THE LOCALITY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
NOW, LIKE MR. DRURY, WHEN I SAW THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHARED, THEY, THEY WERE, THEY WERE EYE-OPENING.
UM, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH THE ZONES THAN I WERE TO GUESS.
AND, AND WE ONLY DID WHAT, SEVEN OUT OF, WE ONLY DID FIVE OUT OF 19 SCHOOLS.
SO YOU WONDER, EXTRAPOLATE THAT TO THE RE REST OF THE SCHOOLS TOO.
WE ALREADY HAVE SIGN'S TELLING PEOPLE SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THE VIOLATION.
IF THEY DON'T, IT'S, I THINK IT'S RECKLESS DRIVING THROUGH, THROUGH SPEEDING THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE.
AND, AND I KNOW AS RUCKUS DRIVING, YOU PASSED THE SCHOOL BUS WITH THE BALL.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S A BIG, THAT'S A BIGGIE.
SO, SO WE, SO WE HAVE A CLEAR PROBLEM.
AND WE GOTTA GET, WE GOTTA GET AHEAD OF IT, BASICALLY.
SO IT, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT TRIVIAL.
AND LIKE MR. SHEPHERD, I WAS WONDERING, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE FUNDS? AND THIS IS SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO, TO DISCUSS.
'CAUSE TO ME THESE ARE UNRELIABLE FUNDS.
'CAUSE THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO GET PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN.
EVERYBODY SEES IT GOES, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS, SO I'M GONNA SLOW DOWN.
AND WE MET OUR SAFETY CONCERNS.
REALISTICALLY, PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT THE OBJECTIVE IS SAFETY, SO IT'S UNRELIABLE FUNDING.
UM, SO MR. SHEPHERD SUGGESTED, UH, COURTS, THAT'S, THAT'S AN IDEA.
I WAS KIND OF THINKING MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR SOME SCHOOL STUFF OR MAYBE EVEN SOME OF OUR, UH, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE COUNTY HELPS THAT MAY BE A, A, A SOURCE TO HELP THEM OUT AS TOO.
BUT I, I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO SIT DOWN AND DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE TO WRAP UP? ALL RIGHT.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO NOW OPEN, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP.
ANYBODY LET ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE.
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SO MOVED.COMMENTS BY THE BOARD, MR. SHEPHERD? YEAH, I, UM, OH GOD.
I'M AHEAD OF, UM, THESE KIND OF THINGS ARE, UH, IT'S SAD THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NECESSARY.
UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, CONSTITUENTS COMPLAINING TO ME ABOUT SPEEDING ON, ON OUR PRIMARY ROADS.
I MEAN, I, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GET IN OUR WORLD, YOU KIND OF GET TO ACCEPT THAT, BUT NOW WE'RE PUTTING CROSSWALKS ON THESE ROADS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN YOU START TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
WELL, WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LOT OF YEARS THAT THE, UM, TRAFFIC HAS TO BE REDUCED AND CONTROLLED IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE KIDS OF, WE, I, I THINK OF TAB HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE ACTUALLY, AND THE SHERIFF'S GONE ALREADY, BUT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE, I KNOW THEY PULLED THE OFFICER THAT USED TO BE OUT THERE, UH, TO, UM, CONTROL TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE COMING IN.
AND WHAT WHATNOT BE, IT JUST GOT SO DANGEROUS.
ALRIGHT? AND, UM, AND I SEE THE KIDS, UH, WALKING, UH, IN YORKTOWN ROAD WHERE THERE'S NO SHOULDER, THERE'S A ROAD AND A DITCH.
OKAY? AND THE ONLY PLACE THEY GOTTA DO IS CAN JUMP INTO A DITCH.
AND, UH, AND PEOPLE DON'T STOP TO LET 'EM GET AROUND.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE IT SAFE.
I KNOW SIGNS YOU CAN PUT UP ALL THE SIGNS IN THE WORLD.
IT DOESN'T MAKE IT, DOESN'T IT? I MEAN, PEOPLE SEEM TO GO BLIND.
ONE OF THOSE SIGNS AFTER A WHILE.
AND, UH, AND UH, GUESS WHEN IT HITS YOU IN THE POCKETBOOK, IT STARTS PAYING ATTENTION.
THEN, UH, THEN PEOPLE START THINKING ABOUT, UM, START THINKING ABOUT DR YOU KNOW, CONTROLLING THEIR SPEED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SCHOOL ZONE AND THINKING HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.
I REMEMBER LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR WITH A LITTLE GIRL, BECAUSE A GUY HAD TO HURRY UP AND LEAVE, UH, IN A ZONE IN THE, IN THE TRAFFIC.
HE HAD TO JUST HURRY UP AND BACK UP AND, AND HE, AND HE SNAGGED A, A LITTLE GIRL ON THE, ON, UM, I'M NOT SURE HER ADDRESS OR SOMETHING, AND DRUG HER DOWN THE STREET.
UM, AND SO AS PEOPLE NOT BEING DRIVING A VEHICLE, UM, AROUND A BUS, AND I WATCHED PEOPLE RUN BUSES WITH A STOP SIGN OUT.
UM, AND MOUNT BUS DRIVERS ARE BLOCKING THE ROAD.
SO PEOPLE HAVE TO RUN OFF THE ROAD TO GET AROUND THEM.
AND, UM, ANYWAY, I'M, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.
AGAIN, TO ME IT'S, I WANT TO, I WANT THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THIS IS SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY.
THE REVENUE WE GET FROM THIS NEEDS TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE TIED DIRECTLY BACK INTO THAT PROGRAM.
FOR ME, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.
AND SO WHEN SOMEBODY STARTS ACCUSING US, AS MANY GOVERNMENTS ARE ACCUSED AT TIMES OF, OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PAD THEIR REVENUE, UH, STREAM, THEN WE'RE SAYING THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE, THIS IS WHERE IT GOES.
ALRIGHT, MR. NOLAN, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE A, A ROBUST PUBLICITY TO, UH, TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT SAFETY FIRST IS SO IMPORTANT AS FAR AS OUR CHILDREN ARE CONCERNED, RATHER THAN A PUNITIVE WAY OF TRYING TO TEACH IT TO OUR CITIZENS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THOMAS SAID, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
BUT I, I THINK OFTENTIMES GOVERNMENT IS TOO REGULATORY.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PULL BACK A LITTLE BIT ON IT.
AND ESPECIALLY THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE HAD ON YOUR PLATE FOR A WHILE THAT YOU'VE WANTED TO DO, AND THAT'S GOOD.
BUT IS IT A WANT OR A NEED? AND I, I'VE ASKED YOU, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE.
YOU HAVEN'T, I MEAN, YOUR DEPUTIES HAVE NOT BEEN GIVING TICKETS OUT, HAVE THEY? FOR PEOPLE SPEEDING IN THE SCHOOL ZONES AT LEAST START THAT AND THEN SEE HOW THAT GOES BEFORE WE, WE GO TO, THIS IS A PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO MAKE MONEY COMING IN AND PUTTING UP THE SIGNS.
'CAUSE YOU ALREADY TOLD US BEFORE THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE SI PAYING FOR THOSE SIGNALS.
SO THEY WOULDN'T DO IT IF IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A PROFIT FOR SOMEBODY.
AND WE WILL GET SOME OF THAT MONEY, BUT SO WILL THEY.
AND I, I JUST DON'T LIKE TO SEE US DOING THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND, AND YOUR SAFETY.
MR. ROY? WELL, I AGREE WITH MR. SHEPHERD.
I THINK THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS HERE.
I THINK IT'S, UM, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU REDUCE THE SPEED IN FRONT OF OUR SCHOOLS? AND, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A TEST, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH IN FRONT OF BRUTON, UH, SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST MONTH, UH, SINCE SHERIFF MONTGOMERY MADE THIS PRESENTATION TO US.
AND I'VE LOCKED IN THE CRUISE CONTROL AT 45, AND THEN I'VE WATCHED JUST HOW FAST THE CARS COME UP BEHIND ME.
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THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES.AND, UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A MESSAGE.
AND IF THE MESSAGE IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS A POP, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA GET THROUGH TO THEM.
UM, BUT I DO AGREE WITH, WITH MR. SHEPHERD AS WELL ON, UH, THIS SHOULDN'T BE OUR REVENUE STREAM.
WE NEED TO SORT OUT HOW WE DO IT.
IT'S EITHER A CHARITY STREAM AS, AS MR. R SUGGESTED OR DIRECT IT TO THE COURTS OR SOME OTHER AVENUE.
UH, I DON'T WANNA SEE IT USED AS A GENERAL FUND.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF DOING SOMETHING JUST 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD.
I WANNA SOLVE A PROBLEM, ADDRESS, AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND IN THIS CASE HERE WE HAVE A CLEAR PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
UM, CLEARLY VEHICLES ARE DRIVING TOO FAST THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONES.
AND I WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THIS NOW AND TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM THERE, RATHER THAN SOLVE IT AFTERWARDS, AFTER WE HAD A SERIOUS ACCIDENT.
SOMEBODY GOT, SOMEBODY'S GOTTEN INJURED, GIVEN THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE NUMBER OF SPEEDERS THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES.
AND I, AND I'LL SHARE SIMILAR EXPERIENCES, WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN, IN THE MORNING, I'M COMING BACK HOME GOING TO, UM, PAST, UM, CRAFTING BETHEL LAKESIDE DRIVE, THAT THING'S FLASHING 25 MILES AN HOUR.
I DROP SPEED AND I'M CRUISING.
AND I GOT PEOPLE TRYING TO DRIVE THROUGH, THROUGH MY, THROUGH MY TAILGATE, UM, EVEN ON THAT LITTLE SHORT STRETCH.
SO CLEARLY THERE'S A PROBLEM WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
I WANNA GET AHEAD OF IT BEFORE SOMEBODY DOES GET HURT.
I MEAN, THERE'S A FINE BALANCE BETWEEN DOING SOMETHING, UM, BE TOO EARLY.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS TOO EARLY.
THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME, TIME TO DO THIS.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE LITERALLY TALKING JUST SECONDS THAT YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN TO GET THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE.
THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DRIVE THE CHESAPEAKE BAY BRIDGE TUNNEL AT 25 MILES AN HOUR.
YOU ARE, IT LITERALLY TAKES YOU SECONDS TO GET THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE, THEN YOU'RE BACK UP TO YOUR NORMAL SPEED.
SO IF WE CAN MAKE, GET SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH DOING THIS, UM, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. DREWRY IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 DASH THREE TO INCORPORATE PART OF THE VIRGINIA CODE INTO THE COUNTY CODE AS CAMERA SPEED MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL CROSSING ZONES.
[7 School Capital Project Financing. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-25 to authorize the issuance of General Obligation School Bond of the County of York to be sold to the Virginia Public School Authority and providing for the form and details thereof. ]
NEXT AND LAST RESOLUTION FOR THE EVENING, UM, IS RESOLUTION R 24 25 SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECT FINANCING.AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION SCHOOL BOND OF THE COUNTY, BE SOLD TO THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.
AND MRS. THERESA OWENS IS GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
WOULD I SURPRISE YOU
THIS IS KIND OF, UM, A STANDARD EVERY YEAR WHEN WE DO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, THIS IS FOR US TO ISSUE DEBT IN ORDER FOR THE SCHOOL TO FINISH THE SEAFORD ROAD PROJECT AND THE YORK HIGH SCHOOL ROOF PROJECT, IT'S A POOL PROGRAM WHERE WE GO IN WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER LOCALITIES, THEY SELL THE BONDS, WE GET IT AT A CHEAPER PRICE AND WE PAY FOR OUR PROJECT.
IT'S PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND PART OF, UM, WHAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PAY FOR LATER IN OUR FUNDING MODEL THAT WE DO FOR YOU ALL.
OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS, BUT ROY, NO QUESTIONS, RIGHT? MR. NO QUESTIONS? UH, DO YOU HAVE A, A TOTAL ON THAT? UM, I BELIEVE IT IS 11 11 7 75.
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM HAD TEN SEVEN IN IT, BUT WE KEEP A LITTLE BIT EXTRA JUST IN CASE BECAUSE OF THE MARKET.
GIVES THEM SOME ROOM TO THE FLUCTUATION IN INTEREST RATES.
SO JUST TO KIND OF, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I, MY SHORT MEMORY, UH, SO THESE ARE BUNDLED MM-HMM?
AND THEN THE COUNTIES ARE BUNDLED UNDER, WELL, THE, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY GOES AND GETS THE BONDS.
I KNOW I GOT THAT WITH, WITH EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
AND THEN THEY BUY OUR BONDS AND GIVE US MONEY.
SO WHAT'S THE COUNTY'S BONDS AS UNDER WHAT, WHAT'S THAT ORGANIZATION? VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SCHOOL.
BUT WHEN WE SEND BONDS FOR WHATEVER WE NEED FOR OUR ROOFS AND STUFF, WE PUT IT UNDER OH OH VRA VIRGINIA VRA.
THIS IS THE SCHOOL POOLED PROGRAM.
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WHAT WILL BE THE LIFESPAN OF THESE BONDS? THEY'RE 20 YEAR BONDS.AND, AND THE, IS THE RATES FIXED OR IS IT FLUCTUATE OVER THE TIME THERE? SOME OF THE RATES, THE EARLIER BONDS ARE, ARE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN LA THAN LATER.
THEY DO AN ALL IN, UM, RATE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT FEES AND THINGS AND PREMIUMS. BUT THE, THE RATES WILL BE NO MORE THAN FIVE.
I THINK IT'S FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF I THINK IS IN THIS.
HOW MANY OF, HOW MANY SIMILAR BONDS ARE WE CARRYING TODAY? OH, WE HAVE, UM, PROBABLY FOR VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.
OUTSTANDING OR SO SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT.
BUT DO, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE MAY BE REACHING MATURITY PUBLIC SCHOOL? UM, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S REACHING MATURITY NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN A COUPLE THAT ARE REACHING MATURITY, I THINK IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND IT'S ALL PART OF THAT FUNDING MODEL.
WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, KINDA LIKE LISA PARK, WE LOOK, WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GONNA ROLL OFF AND WHAT MORE WE CAN, CAN BORROW IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PROGRAM.
KEEP YOU, KEEP THE ROOFS ON THE SCHOOLS.
UM, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE EVERYBODY SIGNED UP.
ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLL IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 24 DASH 25 TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION SCHOOL BOND OF THE COUNTY TO BE SOLD TO THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
RIGHT.MOVING ON TO THE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR.
SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ITEMS. UM, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS HERE.
UH, WE CAN PULL AN ITEM FOR CLARIFICATIONS OR QUESTIONS AND WE CAN ALSO PULL A ITEM TO BE VOTED ON AND DISCUSS SEPARATELY.
SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO PULL, UH, FOR QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATION? NO.
THE REAL ESTATE APPRAISAL AND APPRAISAL REVIEW SERVICE, PLEASE? NO.
UM, YOU WANT NUMBER 13 OUTTA THIS? ALRIGHT.
YOU'RE GOOD? I THINK YOU SAID YOU'RE GOOD.
I'M GOOD ALL AND NOBODY WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING FOR A SEPARATE NO CONSIDERATION VOTE OR ANYTHING.
[13 Undergrounding Utilities in Front of the York-Poquoson Sheriff’s Office. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R24-29 to grant an easement to Dominion Power and to authorize agreements with Dominion Power and Cox Communications to underground their utilities in front of the new York-Poquoson Sheriff’s office. ]
MR. DRURY, NUMBER 13.SO THIS IS, UM, THE UNDERGROUNDING OF THE UTILITIES, THE VIRGINIA POWER AND THE COX CABLE IN FRONT OF THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND IT WOULD INCLUDE IN FRONT OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT BUILDING, UH, THE ONGOING PROJECT.
IT LOOKED LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HANDLE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS PRIMARILY IN FRONT OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER, UM, THE TRUCKS AND, AND REFUSE VEHICLES COMING IN OUTTA THERE AND OFTEN SNAG THE LINES AND KNOCK 'EM DOWN.
UM, IT WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOLLOWING THE BOARD'S DIRECTION TO BEAUTIFICATION AND UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
SO I CERTAINLY GET WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
THAT'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND.
UH, I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A FINANCE GUY, I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND I'M, I'M SHOCKED THAT DOMINION IS CHARGING US A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
$301 PER FOOT TO PUT THAT IN MILLION.
WHEN IN FACT, COX IS ONLY CHARGING US 90,000 TO BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING.
WELL, I, UH, EXCEPT THEIRS, IT'S JUST NOT QUITE AS DEEP.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, HAVE WE LOOKED AT AND CAN WE LOOK AT AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR TO GET THAT BURIED? SO UNFORTUNATELY THOSE POWER LINES AND THE COX CABLE IS THE PROPERTY OF THOSE, THOSE COMPANIES.
UM, AND TO UNDER, TO, TO UNDERGROUND THAT POWER LINE, IT HAS TO BE A, IT'S EITHER THEY'RE GONNA DO IT INTERNALLY OR THEY'RE GONNA SUB IT TO ONE OF THEIR APPROVED CONTRACTORS.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S A PRICE DIFFERENCE THERE.
UM, THE POWER LINE WILL BE DEEPER, INCLUDES A TRANSFORMER MM-HMM.
AND THE COX CABLE IS A LOT LESS COMPLICATED AND YOU CAN DO IT SHALLOW, MUCH SHALLOWER.
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AND THE OTHER, I GUESS KIND OF WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS, IS WHEN THE POWER LINES GO DOWN IN FRONT OF WASTE MANAGEMENT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T AS UPSET OVER THE COX CABLE AS THEY ARE ABOUT THE POWER GOING DOWN AT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY AND DOWN THE ROAD WE, UH, RUN INTO THIS OFTEN WITH, UM, VIRGINIA POWER.WE JUST DID, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION.
AND PART OF THAT WAS TAKEN BASICALLY WHAT I WOULD CALL IS 1950S, SIXTIES POWER IN A Y FORMATION AND, AND PUTTING IT INTO A DELTA, WHICH IS THEIR POWER GRADE TO PULL, YOU KNOW, AN UPGRADE TO THE POWER STATION THERE.
I THINK IT, IT WAS NORTH OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I HAVE TO MAKE A CONTACT WITH VDOT.
THEY, OR, OR I'M SORRY, VIRGINIA POWER AND, UM, THEY SUB IT OUT TO ONE OF THEIR APPROVED CONTRACTORS.
I, I GUESS I'M JUST, I I I'M JUST KIND OF FED UP WITH THESE COMPANIES THAT RATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I MEAN, LISTEN, I, I COULD GO GET A TRENCHER AND PUT THAT THING IN ABOUT TWO DAYS BY MYSELF.
AND JUST GET SOMEBODY TO LAY THE WIRE IN THE HOLE.
FOR A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO ME IS ABSURD.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE GOT US LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, WHICH IS A REAL SHAME TO ME.
WHAT'S THE DISTANCE? IT'S EIGHT OH A HUNDRED EIGHT A HUNDRED EIGHT.
IT'S $301 PER FOOT FOR THEM TO PUT THAT IN.
I I THINK HICKORY HILLS WAS RIGHT AT ONE 10 OR ONE 12.
OH, I'M SURE THEY GOT A MATRIX THAT THEY RUN IT THROUGH WHEN IT'S GOVERNMENT AS OPPOSED TO RESIDENTIAL.
I KNOW WHEN THEY WENT DOWN 19 A CAR, THEY CHARGED $11 MILLION TO UNDERGROUND THOSE LINES.
ESTATE APPRAISAL AND APPRAISAL SERVICE.
UM, HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON IT.
IT, UH, APPEARS TO BE A FAIRLY LARGE, APPEARS TO BE A FAIRLY LARGE COST.
AND I, I QUESTION HOW MUCH WE'RE UTILIZING THIS? IS IT A DRAW OFF CONTRACT? IS IT SIMPLY A CONTRACT IN PLACE IN CASE WE NEED THE SERVICE? SO, UM, AND IS OKAY.
AND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOME EMINENT DOMAIN? I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO BASICALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE SUDDENLY NEED TO HAVE APPRAISAL SERVICE.
I THOUGHT YOU HEARD OVER HERE.
SO MR. BELLAMY, CAN YOU ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT SURE.
OH, OH, I, OH, I
I I THINK I'LL COVER IT FOR YOU.
I I THINK I'LL COVER IT FOR YOU, BUT IN CASE I NEED SOME EXTRA DETAIL.
SO TYPICALLY THE PLACE THESE ARE USED, UH, IS WHERE WE TAKE FEDERAL DOLLARS ON GRANTS.
THEY REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL.
AND TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE USE THIS KIND OF SERVICE.
A A RECENT EXAMPLE IS BYPASS ROAD WAS BUILT WITH A FEDERAL GRANT ON A 80 20 MATCH.
WE HAD THE 20 AND WE HAD TO GO OUT AND GET TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EASEMENTS AND IT REQUIRED A COMPANY SUCH AS THIS TO DO BY LAW.
AND MAYBE A LITTLE FOLLOW UP ON THAT WOULD BE, UH, THESE, THESE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN VETTED PRE-VETTED BY VO FOR THEIR LAND ACQUISITION AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE, WHICH TIES INTO SOME ENGINEERING ON THE BACK END OF WHERE IS THE SIDEWALK, WHERE IS THE LIGHTING BEACON TO PRESS, HOW FAST IS THE ROAD, HOW FAR IS THE SIDEWALK OFF THE CENTER OF THE RIGHT OF WAY? IS IT GONNA BE A CURB OR A ROLL UP CURB? AND THEN A, ANOTHER KIND OF PIECE TO HAVING A THIRD PARTY DOING IT.
IS IT FOR THE CITIZEN? IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TRANSPARENT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT IS.
AND, AND WE DO USE 'EM MAINLY ON THE, UH, VDOT.
SO WHEN WE, WE HAVE A PROJECT COMING UP OF WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT EASEMENTS OR ASK FOR EASEMENTS, UM, WE WILL USE THEM.
THE PRICES WOULD VARY FROM SIX TO $9,000.
I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THE LAST ONE WE USED, UM, UH, THE SIDEWALK ON, UH, PRESBYTERIAN, UH, THE KIRKWOOD PRESBYTERIAN DOWN ON, UH, HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
UM, WE WORK, UM, PRETTY TIRELESSLY TO GET EASEMENTS AND UH, SOMETIMES OUR
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SIDEWALK VENTURES FAIL OR GET HELD UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY WON'T GIVE US AN EASEMENT.SO THESE ARE BASICALLY CONTRACTS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT YOU CAN DRAW UPON BUT DON'T NECESSARILY USE? CORRECT.
SO, AND JUST PIG PIGGYBACK ON MS. TORO'S QUESTION.
SO THIS IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN THE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL GRANT FUND THEN IS IN PLAY.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME, UM, EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU GET INTO A TRICKY AREA OF, UH, OF, I'M GONNA CALL IT STORM WATER AND WHERE IT LAYS, WHETHER IT'S IN THE VDOT EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, TDML STREAM RESTORATION AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD POSSIBLY SEE THIS FALL OVER INTO SLAP GRANT FUNDING FOR, UH, STORMWATER STUFF.
BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP PRACTICALLY ALL OTHER REAL ESTATE APPRAISALS IN HOUSE AND DEFER TO THE, TO THE VENDOR HERE, OUTSOURCE IT WHEN THE RIGHT FEDERAL GRANT IS AT PLAY TO TO, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND YEAH.
AND IF IT'S NOT ONE OF THESE APPROVED VENDORS, THEN WE GO TO VDOT, THEY WON'T ACCEPT THEM.
AND THEN WE JUST WASTED, WASTED TIME.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. RE? ALRIGHT.
IS THIS, SO THIS IS JUST AN ONGOING THING 'CAUSE I NOTICED THAT IT WAS IN EXCESS OF 50, LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? RESOLUTION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ONGOING THING.
WELL, AND IT WOULD STAY BECAUSE OF THAT.
IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
NOW THIS, THE CONTRACT SERVICES RUNNING FOR HOW LONG? WHAT THE, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE.
THIS CONTRACT IS FOR ONE YEAR.
IT HAS FOUR ONE YEAR PERIODS THAT IT COULD BE RENEWED.
SO, SO YOU, IT GOT MY ATTENTION WHEN YOU SAID STORM WATER.
SO WOULD THIS, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THIS BE USED FOR WHAT WE END UP WITH, UH, THE CLEAN WATER ACT, THE TMDL KIND OF THING? UH, CORRECT.
I I BELIEVE WE USED SOME OF THESE AND WORKED WITH VDOT AT THE BYPASS ROAD STREAM RESTORATION.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT IT AND THROWING THAT IN THERE.
I CAN'T RECALL ALL OF IT AND OKAY.
I JUST, BUT THAT WAS, THAT'S OKAY.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE GOT, WE STILL, WE'RE STILL UNDER THAT CONSENT DECREE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER ONE IS, UM, UH, WE ARE ON TARGET TO MAKE OUR TDML BY 28.
UM, AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, IT'S JUST IF THEY CHANGE THE, UH, GOLD POST.
AND MR. HORO, I REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION ABOUT THE FLASHING LIGHTS WHILE I WAS THANK YOU.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? WE'LL GIVE ANOTHER HOUR.
MR. WAT I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE PLEASE FOR NUMBER 10, TYLER TECHNOLOGY SOFTWARE CLOUD MIGRATION.
WELL, I GOT, I GOT THREE TECH ONES ON HERE.
I GOTTA TALK ABOUT ONE OF 'EM.
SO LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION, SO THE, THE, THE FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST LIMITED TO LICENSING THE SOFTWARE AND ENGAGING THEM IN MAINTENANCE FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF THEIR SOFTWARE, WHICH USED TO BE ONPREM.
THEY DON'T OFFER ON-PREM ANYMORE.
THEY MOVE TO, TO THE CLOUD AS A SOFTWARE, AS A SERVICE NOW.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM AND WE KEEP USING THAT SOFTWARE WITH A SMALL CAVEAT, RIGHT? THEY STILL OFFER ON-PREM FOR A FEW MORE YEARS.
THE VERSION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON IS GOING TO BE THE LAST VERSION THAT THEY SUPPORT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT THE NEW VERSION ON THE CLOUD PROBABLY LATER THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THEN THEIR PLAN TENTATIVELY IS TWO TO THREE YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO PULL THE RUG OUT THAT, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SM SUPPORT THE ON-PREM AND YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE CLOUD.
SO WE'RE GETTING HERE TO THE CURVE.
WHAT ABOUT THE COST TO MIGRATE ON-PREM TO THE CLOUD IN THE QUOTE RIGHT NOW, IF WE GO WHILE IT'S THE EXACT SAME VERSION, THE ACTUAL PRICE OF THE ENTIRE MIGRATION IS A ONE TIME $15,000.
SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA MIGRATE OUR DATA FOR US AND GET US ONTO THE CLOUD.
OUR STAFF WILL GO THROUGH AND VERIFY EVERYTHING.
WE WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS ONE OR TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE SWITCHED OPERATING SYSTEMS AND WE MIGRATE INTERNALLY FROM ONE SERVER TO THE OTHER.
IT WILL BE ALMOST, ALMOST IDENTICAL.
THERE'LL BE SOME DIFFERENCES IN SOME SIMPLIFICATION ABOUT HOW WE AUTHENTICATE TO THE CLOUD AND HOW THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AUTHENTICATES I COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
NOW IS IS WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION, IS THAT OUR OUTER DOOR COST OR ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT TRANSACTION FEES IN AND OUT OF THE CLOUD? OUT IN AND OUT OF
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THE SUBSCRIPTION.WE'RE NOT GONNA HIT WITH OUT THE DOOR COST.
WHO'S OUR, WHO'S THE CLOUD PROVIDER IN THIS CASE? UH, TYLER TECHNOLOGY'S ON THE BACK END.
I BELIEVE IT'S AMAZON WEB SERVICES.
HOW DOES THIS PRICE COMPARE TO THE ON-PREM PRICE? 75% MORE PER YEAR.
CLOUD IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER.
UM, SO, UH, IF I CAN TAKE A STEP BACK AND KIND OF FRAME THAT.
IT'S NOT MALICIOUSNESS PER SE BY THE CLOUD VENDORS.
IF THEY SUPPORT A HUNDRED CUSTOMERS ON-PREM, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS WITH A HUNDRED DIFFERENT LOCAL IT SHOPS THAT DO DIFFERENT THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
THEY SET UP A NEW VERSION AND THEY TRY TO PUSH OUT TO ALL HUNDRED CLIENTS.
IT WORKED FINE IN THEIR TESLA ENVIRONMENT, BUT ON THOSE HUNDRED CLIENTS IN THOSE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS, IN DIFFERENT SETTINGS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ISSUES.
SO THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IS PUSHING TOWARDS THE CLOUD.
THEY KEEP IT IN THEIR BUBBLE ON THEIR SERVERS.
WHEN THEY TEST IT ON THEIR TEST ENVIRONMENT, CHANCES ARE IT'S GONNA GO SMOOTH ACROSS THE BOARD.
HOWEVER, AMAZON WEB SERVICES, SAME AS MICROSOFT AZURE AND THE OTHER CLOUD SERVICES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE CAN DO IN HOUSE.
AND THE HARDWARE SUPPORT AND HOW WE DO THE LIFE CYCLES.
UM, IT, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT'S GOING TO AWS TYLER AND THE OTHER TECH COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THEIR OPERATIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE GET COST SAVINGS ON, ON OUR END ONE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON-PREM HARDWARE.
WE WON'T BECAUSE VIRTUALIZATION THERE WON'T.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ON-PREM HARDWARE THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PURCHASE TO DEPRECIATE OVER TIME.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME LABOR EFFORT 'CAUSE WE WE'RE NOT MANAGING THE HARDWARE ANYMORE UPGRADE AND SO FORTH OS COSTS AND SO FORTH.
SO IT IS NOT A APPLES TO APPLES DIFFERENCE.
BUT WE ALL, WE ALL SEEING SOME COST CEILINGS ON OUR END, WE GOTTA MOVE TO THE CLOUD 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT US ANYMORE ON PREM ANYWAY, SO.
ANYBODY, ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
ALL THAT ENDS OUR PUBLIC MEETING.
THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE DO HAVE A CLOSED MEETING TO GO INTO.
[CLOSED MEETING]
MS. NOLL, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE US IN CLOSED MEETING? SURE.UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 A, ONE OF THE COURT OF VIRGINIA, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE ENCLOS MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICER APPOINTEE OR EMPLOYEE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY IN ACCORDANCE TO SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11, A SEVEN OF THE COURT OF VIRGINIA, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON A SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTER REQUIRING PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY COUNSEL.
ROLL CALL PLEASE, MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE TAKE THE ROLL CALL, DO WE WANT TO COVER MATTERS OF THE BOARD? DID WE, DID WE BLOW PAST THAT EARLIER ON? WE SKIPPED IT.
UM, WELL HOW'S THAT WORK? THE POINT ORDER? CAN WE DO THAT NOW? THAT NON-ISSUE? OKAY.
UM, I'D HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, PAST FEW DAYS TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE, UM, PROJECTED, UH, REDISTRIBUTION OF STUDENTS, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, COUNTY.
UH, UM, A, UM, CONSULTANT TO THE, UH, SCHOOL BOARD HAD PRESENTED A FAIRLY IN DEPTH STUDY LAST WEEK ON THE GROWTH OF, IN OUR SCHOOLS AND WHERE WE'RE REACHING CAPACITY AND WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS IN, IN ESSENTIALLY THE DISTRIBUTION LINES SO THAT WE WERE BUSING TO, UH, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND TRYING TO BALANCE LOAD BALANCE THE, UH, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER SCHOOL, UM, UPPER DISTRICT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING THAN, THAN THE, UH, LOWER DISTRICT.
WE'VE GOT THE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, UH, BOTH OF THEM TODAY.
UH, UH, PRETTY MUCH AT CAPACITY.
IN FACT, MCGRUDER IS WELL PAST CAPACITY.
UM, WE HAVE PORTABLE TRAILERS COMING INTO, UM, WALLER MILL THAT, UH, WILL ALLOW THE GROWTH IN THAT SCHOOL TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, UH, NUMBER OF, UH, NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN MCG IN MCGRUDER THAT ARE OVER THE CAPACITY LIMIT.
UM, BUT, BUT THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE, UM, ALMOST 800 HOMES BEING COMPLETED IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE
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YEARS.WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, WATERMILL HEIGHTS AND I LOOK AT THE FENTON MILL PROJECT AND I LOOK AT, UH, COUNTRY CLUB LANE AND I LOOK AT THE SOUTH POD MARQUE APARTMENTS, UH, CLOSING IN ON A THOUSAND HOMES OVER THAT PERIOD.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THE CAPITAL PLAN FROM THE SCHOOL THAT ADDRESSES ANY GROWTH OR ANY BUILDINGS ON EITHER MAGRUDER OR WALLER MILL.
I'VE EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN TO THE BOARD AND IN FACT I TALKED TO, UM, DR. CARROLL TODAY.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THAT ELEMENT OF THE PLAN AND SEE IF THEY NEED TO BE BRINGING FORWARD ENGINEERING OR CAPITAL PLANS, UM, AS WE APPROACH THE, UH, END OF THE CAPITAL PLAN PERIOD.
SO I'VE MADE THAT, UH, REQUEST TO THEM.
THIS IS ALMOST THE END OF, OF FEBRUARY, BUT I WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY FEBRUARY IS CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH, IF YOU HAVEN'T MADE APPOINTMENTS YET FOR CHECKUPS, PLEASE DO SO.
CANCER IS A SILENT KILLER AND WE DON'T WANNA LOSE ANY OF OUR CITIZENS.
I GOT A EMAIL FROM A YOUNG LADY, MADISON CALDWELL.
SHE'S AN IB STUDENT AT, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S YORK HIGH SCHOOL.
AND, UM, SHE SAID THEY USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT THE STUDENTS COULD GO TO, UM, OUR, UM, LOCAL PENAL INSTITUTIONS AND INTERVIEW INMATES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND, UH, SHE SAID THEY COULD GO IN AND TALK AND SIT IN THE COURT CASES AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BUT AFTER COVID, THEY STOPPED THAT.
AND SO SHE WANTS TO KNOW THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO REINSTATE THAT SO THESE KIDS CAN GET BACK TO THESE CORRECTION FACILITIES AND LEARN ABOUT OKAY, HOW THESE PEOPLE GOT THERE AND WHAT, WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE.
MAY I, MAY I ADDRESS THAT? OKAY.
THIS IS THE YORKTOWN WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION IN ACCORDS WITH THE COURT SYSTEM AND THE, THE BAR SYSTEM BAR ORGANIZATION HAD FOR MANY YEARS HAD DOCENTS OF OUR MEMBERSHIP THAT WOULD MEET WITH A LAWYER FROM THE BAR ASSOCIATION AND A, A MEMBER OF OUR CLUB.
AND WE WOULD TAKE CLASSES INTO THE COURTROOM.
UNFORTUNATELY, COVID HIT AND, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT BACK IN PLAY AGAIN, SO PLEASE THANK HER VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON THAT.
AND WHAT I GOT WAS THE, THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO IRON IT OUT BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION AND THE TEACHERS BEING INVOLVED.
AND, AND IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION TO, TO DO THIS.
AND IT'S USUALLY THE GOVERNMENT CLASSES THAT ARE THE ONES THAT GO.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL AND EYE-OPENING.
THE JUDGES MARVELOUS AS FAR AS ASKING THEM QUESTIONS AND LISTENING TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
AND IT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS.
SO I DO HOPE THAT WE GET THIS BACK GOING, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RAISING THAT QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WELL A LITTLE BIT.
UM, MR. DRURY, WE, WE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS AND OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS AMONGST THE BAR AND THE JUDGES AND THE COURT ABOUT REINSTITUTE AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, ABOUT REINSTITUTING, THE DOCENT PROGRAM.
EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY SUPPORTS IT.
THE JUDGE IS A STRONG ADVOCATE OF IT.
IT'S SO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND I I CERTAINLY HOPE ALSO THAT IT'LL BE DONE.
UH, I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, I WAS INTERESTING THE, UH, THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME UP TONIGHT AND TALKED ABOUT THE PRINCESS CRUISE LINE, AND I'M GLAD, I THINK IF I RECALL FROM OUR OFFSITE, I MENTIONED THAT TO THE BOARD, RIGHT? UH, THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
SO OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE PICKED UP ON IT AND THAT'S GREAT.
FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T PICK UP ON IT.
WHAT I, WHAT I TOLD THE BOARD WAS, OKAY, PRINCESS KIND OF WENT AWAY.
KIND OF, IT DID GO AWAY SORTA OF NICE, YOU ALWAYS USE CAVEATS BECAUSE THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE ABSOLUTENESS TO THE PRINCESS CRUISE LINE ISSUE OR THE, WHAT IS IT, THE SEA WORTHY SHIP ISSUE.
UM, AND SO I WANTED TO BRING THE ISSUE TO, UH, TO THE BOARD DURING THE OFFSITE TO MAKE 'EM AWARE THAT, THAT ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS FOR THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM TO GO GET SOMEBODY TO SPONSOR A DOCK.
AND GUESS WHAT? THEY COULD SHOW UP
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OUT HERE.AND ONE OF THE POINTS OF ALL THIS IS THEY BEING A SHIP, ALL THE POINTS OF THAT IS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, WOULD HAVE VERY, WOULD HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT, NONE WHATSOEVER, UH, BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAWS.
IT WOULD BE A STATE ISSUE, A FEDERAL ISSUE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
NOW, I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE TURMOIL THAT WAS CAUSED BY THIS PROPOSAL THAT WAS, THAT JUST SHOWED UP, UH, WAS NEVER GOOD.
IT'S NEVER GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN ANY, ANY, THIS KIND OF TURMOIL IS JUST NOT GOOD.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT JUST NOT A GOOD THING.
IT GETS EVERYBODY UPSET, UH, AND THEN HAVE, YOU HAVE HARD FEELINGS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT GOOD FOR A COMMUNITY.
SO I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE TO HAVE US GO BACK THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
BUT I WANTED THE BOARD TO BE READY AND THINK ABOUT SOMETHING BEING PROACTIVE TO A SITUATION AS OPPOSED TO BEING REACTIVE, WHICH WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE ALWAYS IN A REACTIVE MODE AND WE COULD NEVER REALLY GET CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT WE, WE HAVE A REAL GOOD CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE THE AMERICAN CRUISE IS SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE, IT SEEMS TO HAVE CAUSED VERY LITTLE, UH, TURMOIL IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S A SHIP, IT COMES IN, HAS ABOUT A HUNDRED, 110 PASSENGERS AND THEY DO RIVER CRUISES AND STUFF.
UH, HAVING THE, HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THE ALLIANCE OR WHATNOT AROUND HERE, UH, WAS APPROPRIATE, BUT BRINGING IN THESE BIG SHIPS, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR UH, WHAT OTHER AVENUES WE COULD HAVE OTHER THAN JUST SAY CERTAIN, CERTAIN SIZE SHIPS, UH, OR, UM, THE TETHERS OR WHATEVER.
UH, THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HIT THE DOCKS, HIT OUR DOCKS, OKAY? THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE.
SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION.
AND I'M GLAD, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SITTING HERE ADVOCATING FOR, FOR THESE SHIPS.
I'M JUST SAYING LET'S BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.
LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, STOP THE TURMOIL FROM POPPING UP AGAIN.
'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, HAVING PEOPLE SHOW UP AND HERE'S, IT'S, THEY'RE UPSET.
WE HAVE TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THEM BEING UPSET WHEN, AND WE WANT TO KIND OF SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP AND UH, I HOPE PEOPLE CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
YEAH, SO, UM, I'VE GOT THE SAME CONCERN.
UM, THEY'RE GONE FOR NOW AND, UH, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M HOPING THEY'RE GONE FOREVER.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD FOR YORK COUNTY.
UM, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO, TO MR. HILL IS IT'S THERE AN ORDINANCE OR SOME PARAMETERS WE CAN PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD, WOULD, UM, NOT ALLOW TENDER BOATS TO COME TO OUR DOCKS? ARE THERE SOME ORDINANCES OR ANYTHING WE CAN PUT INTO PLACE THAT, THAT WE CAN TURN DOWN, UH, FOREIGN FLAGGED SHIPS OF A CERTAIN SIZE, UH, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT THAT LIKE THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM COULDN'T PUT A PIER OUT THERE AND HAVE THE TENDER BOATS COME FROM A MEGA SHIP COMING OFF THE COAST? JUST A QUESTION.
UH, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IN SOME DETAIL.
AS I'VE INDICATED BEFORE, WITH RESPECT TO THE FOREIGN FLAG VESSELS, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WE HAVE ANY POWER TO SINGLE, SINGLE OUT ONE CLASS OF SHIPS.
UH, REGARDING THE QUESTION ON WHETHER WE CAN PUT LIMITS ON THE TENDER BOATS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE POTENTIALLY COULD DO THROUGH OUR, UH, POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR USAGE OF THE, OUR PUBLIC PEERS.
AND REGARDING WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER A PRIVATE PEER, I WOULD SAY VERY UNLIKELY GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS ON OUR, OUR POWER UNDER STATE LAW AND THE DYLAN RULE AND THINGS.
UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS TO CONSIDER, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WELL, ONE THING WE CAN DO, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER IT FOR SURE.
ONE THING I, I KNOW THE STATE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF THE STATE AS BEING ALL WELL THOUGHT AND EVERYTHING.
WELL, WE KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.
AND I'VE SEEN 'EM CREATE LAWS AND RULES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY TO ONE, ONE SMALL, SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE STATE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER IS LOBBYING OUR DELEGATES AND TO PROVIDE US SOME AUTHORITY AROUND A HISTORIC, UM, ZONE.
LIKE WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET OUT FROM THE, FROM THE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, THE, THE, THE SHORE.
IF WE CAN, IF WE, IF POSSIBLE, THAT'LL TAKE SOME, OBVIOUSLY SOME INVESTIGATION, BUT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL WHAT COMES, HAPPENS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE STATE TO DO SOMETHING
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FOR US.THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
WHATEVER IN THE HECK THAT IS, THAT WOULD HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND MAYBE ANOTHER POSSIBILITY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE STATE, RIGHT.
GIVING, GIVING US THE POWER TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE DYLAN RULE.
SO WE'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT REAL QUICK.
UM, AND AS, AS YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING INVESTIGATION WITH MR. DRURY, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE ASK OUR STATE LEGISLATORS FOR EXACTLY TO HELP US CONTROL, MANAGE WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
YOU KNOW, OUR DOCKS, OUR BEACH, OUR, OUR PRESENCE, YOU KNOW, TO INSULATE US FROM THAT, WHICH WE DO NOT WANT.
UM, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE WOULD ASK IT, BUT, UM, I'M SURE YOU CAN HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW THAT WILL LOOK.
UM, AND, AND ALSO, MR.
UM, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION FOR THE YEAR IS RAPIDLY CLOSING, COMING TO AN END.
UM, SO OUR ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND THE GOVERNOR ON CONCERNS ALSO COMING IN, COME IN, COME IN VERY QUICKLY.
LIKELY WE ALL HAVE BILLS OUT THERE THAT WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OR BILLS THAT WE DETEST.
SO IF YOU ARE SO INTERESTED, NOW'S THE TIME.
REACH OUT TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, REACH OUT TO THE GOVERNOR, LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS BECAUSE THAT WHEN'S GONNA CLOSE AND WE THEN WE'LL GOT WHAT WE GOT AFTER THAT.
WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAD THE, YOU GOT SOMETHING ELSE? I READ THIS, I SAY, RIGHT.
SO WE READ, WE READ THE NOTE AND WE WERE AT ROLL CALL.