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WE'RE READY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA CALL THE

[1. Call to Order]

MEETING, UM, PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING FOR TONIGHT.

AND, UM, FIRST WE'RE GOING TO STATE OF VIRGINIA MESSAGE, AND I'M GONNA READ THAT.

OKAY.

THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO REVIVE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON LAND USE AND PLANNING USES AFFECTING THE COUNTY.

THIS RESPONSIBILITY IS EXERCISED.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS CONVEYED BY RESOLUTION ARE OTHER OFFICIAL MEANS AND ARE ALL MATTERS OF PUBLIC RECORD.

THE COMMISSION IS COMPROMISED AS SEVEN CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD WITH ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH VOTING DISTRICT, AND TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.

AND NOW WE WANNA CALL THE ROLL.

MR. VOTING.

MR. HOL WRIGHT? PRESENT? MR. TEZ? HERE.

MR. LI? HERE.

MR. KING? HERE.

MR. KRANER? HERE.

MR. SMITH.

HERE.

MR. PETERMAN.

HERE.

MADAM SHEAR.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NOW, IF YOU'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY.

AND

[4. Approve Minutes – May 10, 2023 (APPROVED)]

WE WANNA GO OVER THOSE PREVIOUS MINUTES BE ACCEPTED, RIGHT? WELL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

OH, I'M SORRY.

NO COMMENTS.

I GET A MOTION.

I ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.

OKAY.

SECOND.

WE DON'T DO SECONDS.

WE DON'T DO SECONDS.

NO.

I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS.

YOU THINK I KNOW THIS ? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? NO.

TAKE A ROLL.

YEAH, ROLL.

OKAY.

THE MOTION BY MR. KRANER IS TO ADOPT THE MANZA AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 10TH, 2023.

MR. YES.

MR. T ABSTAIN.

I WAS NOT HERE LAST MONTH.

MR. KING? YES.

MR. KRANER? YES.

MR. SMITH? YES.

MR. PETERMAN? YES.

MS. ALITO? YES.

THE MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE

[5. Citizen Comments]

GONNA MOVE TO THE CITIZEN, CITIZEN COMMENT STAGE.

UM, I ONLY HAVE ONE UP HERE.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

RIGHT.

THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

OKAY.

IT, AND THIS IS FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS ONE FIRST.

THIS IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

ALYSSA ADAMS. OH, OKAY.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO VERIFY THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING ABOUT THE AGENDA.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

RIGHT.

IT SAYS CRUISE LINE ON IT.

SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S NOT.

THIS IS THE ECONOMIC AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

NO, THIS IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

PLANNING COMMISSION.

PLANNING COMMISSION.

OH, I WISH.

NO.

PLANNING COMMISSION.

TWO, TWO MORE MEETINGS, GUYS.

JUST HANG WITH ME.

THIS IS, YOU TALK ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TONIGHT, THE 40 YEAR PLAN.

YES.

COMPREHENSIVE.

YES.

YES, YES.

YES.

WE ARE.

THERE WAS A DRAFT MADE ABOUT YES, YES.

OH, THEN I THINK I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

IT'S COMING UP.

YOU'LL BE IN A MINUTE.

IT WILL BE IN A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE MR. PETERMAN, THIS WILL BE HIS LAST MEETING, SO WE'RE GONNA COME DOWN AND, OKAY.

MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

FOLLOW HIM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

UH, WE WANTED TO TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE AND PAY TRIBUTE TO MR. PETERMAN, PETE PETERMAN, WHO HAS SERVED AS AN AT LARGE MEMBER ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, FOR EIGHT YEARS.

I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, CHECKED THE RECORDS, AND OVER THAT EIGHT YEAR PERIOD, HE ATTENDED A TOTAL OF 72 PLANNING

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COMMISSION MEETINGS, TOTALING 104 HOURS AND 52 MINUTES IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED, , UH, OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S JUST, OF COURSE, THE TIME SPENT IN MEETINGS.

UH, DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE TIME SPENT IN PREPARATION FOR THE MEETINGS, UH, VISITING APPLICATION SITES, REVIEWING THE APPLICATION MATERIALS, UH, IN PREPARATION, IT WAS OBVIOUS FROM HIS COMMENTS AND HIS QUESTIONS THAT HE WAS ALWAYS VERY WELL PREPARED.

UH, MR. PETERMAN PREVIOUSLY SERVED THE COUNTY AS A MEMBER OF THE WETLANDS BOARD, AND HE BROUGHT THAT EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE, UH, WITH HIM WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION.

UM, HE SERVED AS VICE CHAIR IN THE 2017 TO 2018 FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN AS CHAIR IN FY 28 29.

UH, HE IS A CERTIFIED PLANNING COMMISSIONER, HAVING SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE STATE PLANNING COMMISSIONER TRAINING PROGRAM BACK IN 2016.

AS MOST OF MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS AN INTENSIVE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES THE LEGAL AND TECHNICAL BACKGROUND NEEDED BY CITIZEN PLANNERS AND DECISION MAKERS.

IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A BASIC FOUNDATION PLANNING LAW AND HISTORY, AND PROVIDE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE NEEDED BY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO MAXIMIZE THEIR COMPETENCY AND ABILITY TO MAKE LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, WHAT CANNOT BE TAUGHT HOWEVER, ARE WISDOM, SOUND JUDGMENT, UH, UH, THESE ARE QUALITIES MR. PETERMAN BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AT EVERY MEETING, UH, HAVING SERVED TWO FULL TERMS, MR. PETERMAN WAS UNFORTUNATELY NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE REAPPOINTED, BUT LUCKILY, HIS TERM DOESN'T END UNTIL JUNE 30TH.

SO, WE'RE GONNA SQUEEZE ONE MORE MEETING OUT OF HIM ON JUNE 22ND, WHEN YOU ALL HAVE YOUR WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE COMP PLAN.

UH, HOWEVER, SINCE TONIGHT IS YOUR LAST REGULAR MEETING, WE FELT THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE YOU, AND TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ON LONG, BUT I REALLY WANNA SAY I'VE ENJOYED MY TIME.

I APPRECIATE PATIENCE.

COUPLE PICTURES HERE, STANDING THERE.

AND, UH, MR. PETERMAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANY REMARKS, FEEL FREE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

ALL RIGHT.

START THE TIMER.

, THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

UM, FIRST, IT'S BEEN A, A GREAT HONOR TO WORK WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, OVER THESE EIGHT YEARS, AND TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTY.

I URGE YOU TO BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN DECISIONS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

WE ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS OUR CITIZENS INVOLVEMENT IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE, GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND WE'RE GONNA REVIEW THE CURRENT APPLICATIONS,

[Charting the Course to 2040: The York County Comprehensive Plan : Pursuant to Section 15.2-2235 of the Code of Virginia, the Planning Commission will hold a public hearing to receivecomments on the draft Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan is the long-range plan forthe physical development of the County, and Section 15.2-2230 of the Code of Virginia requiresthat it be reviewed at least once every five years. A draft update of the Plan has been preparedand forwarded to the Planning Commission by the Comprehensive Plan Review SteeringCommittee and is available for review on the York County website at www.york2040.com . Staffreport and attachments . For more information contact: Timothy C. Cross, AICP, Deputy Directorof Planning and Development Services . NO ACTION TAKEN. THE PLANNING COMMISSIONWILL HOLD A WORK SESSION AT 7:00 PM ON THURSDAY, JUNE 22, AT THE YORKTOWNLIBRARY TO DISCUSS THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.]

UM, WHICH IS CHARTING THE COURSE FOR THE YORK COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, MR. MR. CROSS.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

UH, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, PRESENT TO YOU THE DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CHARTING THE COURSE TO 2040.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERY LOCALITY CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES EVERY LOCALITY TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE TERRITORY UNDER A JURISDICTION.

AND COMP PLANS MUST BE REVIEWED AT LEAST ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S ADVISABLE TO AMEND THE PLAN.

AND I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THAT FIVE YEAR CLOCK STARTS TICKING ONCE THE PLAN IS ADOPTED.

SO, UH, ONCE THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED, THE COUNTY WILL NEED TO REVIEW IT AGAIN SOME TIME WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

FOLLOWING THAT, UH, THE DOCUMENT THAT, UH, IS NOW AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AND HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE, UH, IS THE FOURTH UPDATE OF THE COUNTY'S FIRST

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TWO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS, UH, ADOPTED BACK IN 1991.

UH, THE CURRENT PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2013.

AND, UH, THIS IS A, UH, SUMMARY OF, OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT TO WENT THROUGH.

UH, IT STARTED WITH THE FORMATION OF A STEERING COMMITTEE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

UH, WE HAD A, UH, SCIENTIFIC TELEPHONE SURVEY OF COUNTY CITIZENS CONDUCTED, UH, IN THE SPRING OF 2019.

UH, FROM THERE, WE, UH, UH, WE STARTED, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, SOME BRIEFINGS, UH, FROM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, UH, TO, UH, UH, MEET WITH THE YORK COMP PLAN COMMITTEE, THE YORK 2040 COMMITTEE, UH, PRESENTING INFORMATION, UH, TAKING QUESTIONS, UH, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WE HAD A SERIES OF FOUR, UH, PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS.

UH, THAT WAS IN MAY, JUNE OF 2019.

AND THEN WE CONTINUED, UH, WITH THE, UM, UH, WITH THE, UH, RU ROUGHLY MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, COMMITTEE PRESENTING INFORMATION, UH, DRAFTING ELEMENTS.

UH, THE FIRST ELEMENT, UH, WAS ACTUALLY POSTED IN DRAFT FORM BACK IN JUNE OF 2020.

UH, WE WERE SLOWED DOWN A BIT BY COVID AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND SCHEDULE FROM WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY EXPECTED.

UH, SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.

IT'S PLANNING, COMMISSION REVIEW, PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, ULTIMATELY, ONCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S FINISHED ITS WORK, IT'LL GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR FINAL ADOPTION.

AND THIS IS THE COMMITTEE, UH, AS IT WAS APPOINTED THIS COMMITTEE.

THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

SO, UH, UH, WE DID HAVE A, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, UH, DROP OFF FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, SAME GROUP, UH, THAT WAS INVOLVED AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, UH, THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, UH, AS AT THE BEGINNING.

AND, UH, HAPPY TO SEE A COUPLE OF THOSE MEMBERS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

AND OF COURSE, YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE, UH, MR. KING IN THIS PICTURE, WHO, UH, WAS ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER REPRESENTATIVES ON THE COMMITTEE.

UH, THERE WERE ALSO REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE YOUTH COMMISSION, UH, THE YORK COUNTY BUSINESS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND THE TWO DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS.

UM, MR. KING WAS ACTUALLY, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, AND HE DID A GREAT JOB OF RUNNING THE MEETINGS EFFICIENTLY, KEEPING US ON TRACK WHILE MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAD AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE, UH, AND HAVE THEIR OPINIONS HEARD.

UH, ALL IN ALL, UH, THERE WERE 34 COMMITTEE MEETINGS BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER OF AT 2018, UH, AND ENDING, UH, THIS PAST APRIL.

UH, ALL OF THESE MEETINGS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND WE INCLUDED A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD TO GIVE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS TO THE COMMITTEE.

UH, WE HAD CITIZENS IN ATTENDANCE AT ALMOST EVERY MEETING, UH, INCLUDING MR. HOLROYD, WHO ATTENDED, UH, MANY OF, OR I WOULD SAY HE ATTENDED MOST OF THEM, UH, AS A, AS A CITIZEN, UH, UH, ATTENDEE I MENTIONED, UH, IN EARLY ON, IN, IN 2019, WE HAD FOUR PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS TO, UH, GATHER INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS.

THEN MORE RECENTLY, IN SEPTEMBER, 2021, WE HAD A COUPLE OF LAND USE, UH, OR PUBLIC FORUMS ON, SPECIFICALLY ON THE TOPIC OF LAND USE.

UH, ALL SIX OF THESE MEETINGS WERE, UH, WERE OPEN HOUSE TYPES OF MEETINGS, UH, SO THAT THE CITIZENS, UH, THE PUBLIC COULD INTERACT WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TALK TO THEM DIRECTLY ABOUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, WHAT THEIR SUGGESTIONS ARE.

UH, AND SO, UH, THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO THE CITIZEN SURVEY.

THAT WAS A WAY OF, UH, GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT.

AND WE HAD, UH, WE BROKE IT DOWN EVENLY BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER COUNTY.

UH, UH, SIX MEETINGS, THREE IN THE UPPER COUNTY, THREE IN THE LOWER COUNTY, COVERED A LOT OF TERRITORY.

THIS IS JUST A SMALL SNAPSHOT MICROCOSM OF THE TOPICS WOW.

UH, THAT WERE DISCUSSED OVER THAT FOUR AND A HALF YEAR PERIOD.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, QUITE A RANGE.

BASICALLY EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE, THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY.

UH, SINCE THIS IS AN UPDATE OF THE 2013 PLAN, I WANT TO HA SHOW A FEW SLIDES JUST SHOWING SOME OF THE TRENDS, UH, THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE THAT 2013 PLAN WAS ADOPTED.

SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU HOUSING CONSTRUCTION.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, GENERALLY UPWARD AS THE DECADE WENT ON, UH, EARLY ON, WE WERE COMING OUT OF THE RECESSION.

THE HOUSING CRISIS, UH, THINGS, UH, PICKED UP FAIRLY STEADILY, UH, UH, IN, IN DEPARTURE FROM PREVIOUS, UH, DECADES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, MOST OF

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THE NEW HOUSING DURING THAT PERIOD WAS ACTUALLY NOT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED VARIETY.

THAT BLUE BAR THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM, UH, WE HAD A NUMBER OF APARTMENT COMPLEX ON COME ONLINE, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF SENIOR HOUSING PROJECTS, UH, NUMBER OF, UH, TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS.

UH, ALL IN ALL, UH, OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED REPRESENTED ABOUT A THIRD OF THE NEW HOUSING APARTMENTS REPRESENTED ABOUT ANOTHER THIRD, UH, 22%, I THINK IT WAS TOWNHOUSES.

AND THEN YOUR REMAINING 11% WERE, UH, UH, AGE RESTRICTED, WHICH WERE, UH, WHICH ARE MOSTLY APARTMENTS.

NOT ENTIRELY.

UH, ONE THING YOU MIGHT, UH, NOTICE IS THAT ALTHOUGH ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE SLOWED DOWN OR SHUT DOWN IN 2020 WITH THE COVID PANDEMIC, UH, HOUSING ACTIVITY WAS ACTUALLY UP, IT WAS OUR BIGGEST, UH, BUSIEST, UH, YEAR OVER THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD.

WOW.

UH, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE ONLY THING, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS UP IN 2020.

UH, WE DO HEAR A LOT ABOUT, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH, POPULATION GROWTH, ET CETERA.

UH, WHEN YOU PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, UH, COMPARE IT TO, UH, PREVIOUS DECADES, UH, ACTUALLY, IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY MODEST WHEN YOU, UH, LOOK AT 2000, THE TWO THOUSANDS AND 1990S, UH, EIGHTIES, SEVENTIES, AND THE SIXTIES.

UM, IT HAS TICKED UP IN RECENT YEARS, AS SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

UH, AND FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE 2020S, WHERE ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH WHERE, UH, YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PROJECTIONS, UH, THERE WERE PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE, UH, WELDING COOPER CENTER PROJECTED WHERE WE WOULD BE, UH, 2020 TO 2030.

UH, THE PROJECTION WAS 591, UH, UH, NEW RESIDENCE, UH, PER YEAR.

UH, I REALLY DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2030, BECAUSE THERE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE PIPELINE, UH, TO ACHIEVE THAT KIND OF, UH, GROWTH OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE, WHAT COOPER CENTERS IS ACTUALLY PROJECTING, UH, UH, UH, 20 30, 20 40 TO BE HIGHER THAN, UH, THE PA THE PAST DECADE.

LOOKING AT, UH, LAND USE IN THE COUNTY, THE CATEGORY THAT HAS INCREASED IN ACREAGE MORE THAN ANY OTHER, UH, KIND OF SURPRISING, IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY CONSERVATION.

UM, OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, THE AMERICAN BATTLEFIELD TRUST HAS ACQUIRED HUNDREDS OF ACRES FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES.

LIKEWISE, NEWPORT NEWS, WATERWORKS AND CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAD EXPANDED THEIR WATERSHED PROPERTIES, UH, INCLUDING, UH, MOST RECENTLY, JUST WITHIN THE PAST, UH, YEAR OR SIX MONTHS, UH, NEW NEWS WATERWORKS ACQUIRED 200 ACRES OFF OF DENBY BOULEVARD THAT, UH, WE HAD, UH, DESIGNATED FOR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UH, OVERALL, GETTING BACK TO CONSERVATION, UH, CURRENTLY REPRESENTS ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE COUNTY'S, UH, LAND AREA, UH, SECOND ONLY TO MILITARY, WHICH IS ABOUT A THIRD.

IF, IF, IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY THE MILITARY ACREAGE WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE REASON IS THERE WAS A, THERE WAS ONE PARCEL, UH, IN OUR, IN OUR, A LAND USE DATA THAT WAS INCORRECTLY CODED.

UH, IT WAS CODED AS CONSERVATION RATHER THAN MILITARY.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE, OR MILITARY RATHER THAN CONSERVATION.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE THAT SWITCH, UH, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, KIND OF BEEN UP AND DOWN, EXCEPT LAST YEAR WAS A, WAS A BIG YEAR.

UM, BUT REALLY IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT VALUE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UNLIKE RESIDENTIAL OVER IN 2020, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TOOK A HIT, UH, DURING THAT PANDEMIC YEAR.

AND SIMILARLY, SAME THING HERE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT TAXABLE SALES, EVERYTHING, UH, WAS GOING WELL, , UH, AND THEN 2020, WE HAD A DIP.

UH, BUT IT REBOUNDED, UH, NICELY IN 2021 AND, AND AGAIN IN 2023.

SO, UH, THE TREND IS, IS, UH, BEEN PRETTY STEADILY UPWARD OTHER THAN THAT ONE ODD YEAR.

SO, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE COMP PLAN.

UH, COMP PLAN CONSISTS OF EIGHT ELEMENTS, BROADBAND, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ENVIRONMENT, HISTORIC RESOURCES, HOUSING, PUBLIC FACILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, AND LAND USE.

UH, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE CHAPTERS IN THE DRAFT PLAN ON INTRODUCTION, OR THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION.

THERE'S A CHAPTER ON CITIZEN INPUT SUMMARIZING ALL THE, UH, EFFORTS TO, UH, GATHER CITIZEN INPUT AND, UH,

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CHAPTER ON DEMOGRAPHICS, AND A COUPLE OF GLOSSARIES AT THE END TO HELP PEOPLE WITH SOME OF THE JARGON AND ACRONYMS AND ABBREVIATIONS THAT ARE PRESENT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.

UH, BROADBAND IS ACTUALLY A NEW ADDITION TO THE COMP PLAN.

UH, IT DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE CURRENT, THE 2013 PLAN.

THAT'S BECAUSE IN 2018, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AMENDED THE CODE OF VIRGINIA TO REQUIRE LOCALITIES, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, BROADBAND, UH, NEEDS FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THEIR LOCALITIES.

SO THIS IS, UH, REQUIREMENT FROM THE, UH, UH, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

THE COMP PLAN IS ABOUT A 300 PAGE DOCUMENT.

UM, SO FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO, MIGHT NOT WANNA READ THE WHOLE THING, AND ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE DID PUT TOGETHER A, I BELIEVE IT'S A 39 PAGE SUMMARY OF ALL THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN, THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, UH, FOR EACH OF THE EIGHT ELEMENTS.

AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE, AND ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO READ THEM.

UH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TRY TO COVER THE ENTIRE PLAN IN THIS PRESENTATION.

SO, I, I JUST WANNA GO THROUGH THE EIGHT ELEMENTS AND HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW OF THE MAJOR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS IN EACH.

STARTING WITH BROADBAND, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING THE COUNTY'S DARK FIBER NETWORK.

UH, SOME COUNTY FACILITIES WERE ALREADY CONNECTED WITH FIBER.

UH, THE COUNTY CONTROLLED DARK FIBER WOULD PROVIDE A MORE RELIABLE AND SECURE CONNECTION.

UH, WE TALK IN HEAR ABOUT DELIVERING ACCESS TO FIBER INTERNET IN AREAS ZONE FOR BUSINESS.

UH, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR BUSINESS USE IN THE PLAN THAT EITHER ARE UNSERVED, UH, OR SERVED BY CABLE DSL, AND WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SERVED BY FIBER.

UM, WE HAVE A, UH, UH, AN OBJECTIVE IN THERE TO ENSURE THAT SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN HAVE ACCESS TO BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE AND A COMPUTER.

IT'S, UH, VERY IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE MODERN ERA.

UH, THERE ARE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE COUNTY CAN ASSIST, UH, YOU KNOW, BY, BY CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH THOSE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.

AND WHEN, UH, SIMILARLY, THE OTHER END OF THE AGE SPECTRUM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, TELE TELEHEALTH CARE SERVICES, UH, FOR THE GROWING SENIOR POPULATION.

UH, SAME IDEA, UH, HELPING THOSE, THOSE, UH, SENIORS WHO NEED THE HELP TO, UH, ACCESS, UH, INTERNET AND, UH, COMPUTERS.

MOVING ON TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, MAXIMIZING THE ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY OF VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL SITES.

YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME WHENEVER ANY, UH, THERE'S ANY NEW PROPOSAL FOR NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T THEY MOVE INTO THIS VACANT BUILDING? UH, WHY CAN'T THEY, YOU KNOW, MOVE HERE INSTEAD OF BUILDING A NEW, UH, UH, A NEW BUILDING? AND THEY'RE USUALLY GOOD REASONS FOR THAT.

BUT, UH, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE ENTICING, UH, FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS TO, UH, USE THOSE, UH, VACANT SITES.

UH, WE TALK IN THE PLAN ABOUT, UH, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO REMOVE OBSTACLES TO, UH, REDEVELOPMENT OR WHAT WE CALL ADAPTIVE REUSE.

UH, COUNTY'S BEEN, UH, PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH A NUMBER OF ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECTS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.

WE TALK IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT ABOUT, UH, PLACEMAKING, UH, KIND OF A NEW CONCEPT.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH ATTRACTING, UH, BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURIAL WORKERS BY, UH, ATTRACTING 'EM TO THE LOCALITY, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, WITH, UH, THAT COULD BE PARKS, WALKWAYS.

UH, BREWERIES ARE OPEN CITED AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, UH, HOUSING THAT'S ACTUALLY TARGETED TOWARD, UH, YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC.

AND, UH, THE, THE, THE BEST EXAMPLE WE HAVE OF THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY IS WHAT WE CALL THE EDGE DISTRICT.

THE, UH, MERRIMACK TRAIL, UH, SECOND STREET CORRIDOR UP IN THE UPPER COUNTY, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE THE, UH, UH, VIRGINIA BEER COMPANY, WHICH IS KIND OF A CENTERPIECE, UH, A WHOLE HOST OF, UH, RESTAURANTS, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR.

THE IDEA BEING TO PROMOTE IT AS A SINGLE DISTRICT, A, A DINING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.

UH, WE HAVE PUT SIDEWALKS IN UP THERE.

WE STILL NEED TO DO SOME WORK.

WE'VE STILL, UH, TRYING TO WORK WITH VDOT TO GET, UH, CROSSWALKS, UH, UP, UP ON THERE ON SECOND STREET, MERRIMACK TRAIL.

UH, AND, UH,

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MOST OF YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, APPLICATION TO, UH, REDEVELOP THE, UH, GEORGE WASHINGTON IN MM-HMM.

INTO, UH, APARTMENT, UH, BUILDING, UH, THAT WAS REALLY ORIGINALLY TARGETED TOWARD, UH, YOUNGER WORKERS.

SO ALL OF THAT STUFF, UH, COMES TOGETHER.

UM, UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ALSO ADDRESSED IN THE TOURISM, UH, AND PUBLIC PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT.

UH, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, HOME BASED PROMOTING, UH, HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.

THE COUNTY'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL HERE, UH, IN THAT REGARD.

UH, THE, THESE DAYS, UH, WHEN IT'S SO EASY TO WORK FROM HOME, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THEY CHOOSE A PLACE TO LIVE, UH, RATHER THAN A PLACE TO WORK MANY TIMES.

AND, UH, SO THAT KIND OF TIES IN WITH THE PLACE MAKING.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ABOUT, UH, FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, UH, AT SOME POINT TO, UH, TO REMOVE OBSTACLES TO HOME OCCUPATIONS.

UH, WE TALKED IN THE, UH, THIS ELEMENT ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO ATTRACT MORE INDUSTRY TO THE GOODWIN NECK WATERVIEW AREA.

IT'S REALLY OUR GENERAL INDU HEAVY INDUSTRIAL BASE.

UH, WE'VE, UH, BASICALLY LOST THE, UH, UH, POWER STATION.

UH, IT'S NOT UTILIZED.

UH, THE FORMER REFINERY PROPERTY IS UTILIZED, BUT IT'S REALLY UNDERUTILIZED WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO, UH, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN THERE TO COMMIT COMMISSION, A STUDY TO, UH, UH, IDENTIFY INDUSTRIES AND COMPANIES THAT WE CAN TARGET, UH, TO THAT AREA FOR, UH, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, FARMIN ELEMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT AIR, LAND, AND WATER.

UH, OF COURSE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHESAPEAKE BAY.

WE TALKED ABOUT COASTAL RESILIENCY, UH, STORMWATER EROSION.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EV, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, CHARGING STATIONS, UH, ABOUT HAVING, UH, PROMOTING MORE.

UH, THE COUNTY HAS ESTABLISHED A, A NUMBER OF THEM UP AND DOWN, UH, AROUND THE COUNTY.

UH, WE THINK THAT WE CAN ADD MORE.

UH, WE WANT TO, UH, UH, WE, WE SAY IN THE ELEMENT WE THAT WE WANT TO, UH, AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO, UH, REQUIRE EV CHARGING STATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS NOT AN ISSUE BACK IN 2013 WHEN WE WROTE THE CURRENT PLAN.

NOW IT IS, YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AND THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE.

UH, SO WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

UH, AND, AND THE HOOK TO THE ENVIRONMENT, OF COURSE, IS, UH, AIR, AIR, AIR EMISSIONS.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE, UH, UH, WHEN EVERY YEAR WHEN WE LOOK AT THE C I P, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY, UH, THINGS, UH, IN THE COMP PLAN THAT SUPPORT THOSE CIP PROJECTS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

SO WE MADE A POINT THIS TIME TO PUT IN, UH, UH, CERTAIN THINGS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC THAN WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

SO, WE TALKED ABOUT INVESTING IN PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE, FIRE APPARATUS, UH, FOR MAJOR STORE STORM UNIT RESPONSE, FIRE APPARATUS, EMERGENCY SHELTERS, E 9 1 1.

UH, THE WHOLE GAMUT, UH, COASTAL RESILIENCY IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S DISCUSSED IN THE 2013 PLAN.

UH, THAT'S, UH, A LOT MORE EMPHASIS PLACED ON IT IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, CASE WHERE THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, UH, WAS AMENDED IN THIS CASE.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY DIRECTED THAT ALL, UM, ALL LOCALITIES IN HAMPTON ROADS ADDRESS, UH, SEA LEVEL RISE, COASTAL RECURRENT FLOODING IN THEIR, UH, NEXT COMP PLAN UPDATES.

SO WE HAVE DONE THAT.

UH, WE TALK IN THERE ABOUT, UH, UH, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRATEGIES, ADAPTATION, PROTECTION, RELOCATION STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND IT'S ALL BASED ON, UH, THE REGIONAL POLICY THAT LOCALITIES SHOULD PLAN FOR, UH, A FOOT AND A HALF SEA LEVEL RISE BY 2050, UH, THREE FEET BY 2080, AND FOUR AND A HALF FEET BY 2100.

UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, UH, PROPERTIES IN, IN THE COUNTY, UH, GETS UP TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 1200 WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2 20, 100, THE YEAR 2100.

UH, SO WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT, UH, STRATEGIES, UH, ROAD ELEVATION PROJECTS, ROAD DETOUR PLANS, UH, PROMOTING LIBERAL LIVING SHORELINES, WHICH WE'VE DONE FOR A LONG TIME, TO PREVENT EROSION, UH, UTILIZING STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS.

THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE, UH, FOR THESE KINDS OF STRATEGIES, UH, EVEN PURCHASING, UH, UH, LAND TO CONSERVE, TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING DEVELOPED TO LESSEN THE COUNTY'S, UH, EXPOSURE TO SEA LEVEL RISE.

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UM, AND, UH, RECENT, FAIRLY RECENT EXAMPLE, UH, WE USE A FEMA GRANT TO ELEVATE SOME HOUSES, UH, OUT IN SEAFORD, UH, UH, TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE.

AND WE MAY AT SOME POINT NEED TO REVISIT, UH, ZONING OUT IN SOME OF THE MORE, UH, UH, VULNERABLE AREAS.

TALKING ABOUT, UH, YORK POINT, BATRE BEACH, EASTERN SEAFORD, UH, DARE DANDY.

UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE DID, UH, UH, WE DID SPOT, UH, WE DID, UH, CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IN THOSE AREAS TO, UH, REDUCE THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY.

AND THAT WAS FOLLOWED UP WITH A, A REZONING OF SOME PARCELS, AGAIN, JUST TO PREVENT, UH, OR TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THESE VULNERABLE AREAS.

AND OF COURSE, UH, WE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, UH, TMDL, TOTAL MAXWELL DAILY LOAD TARGETS.

WE HAVE A SLEW OF STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UH, THAT, UH, WE HAVE IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, UH, IN INTENDED TO, UH, ACCOMPLISH THAT FOR CHESAPEAKE BAY HISTORIC RESOURCES ELEMENT.

UH, WE TALK ABOUT PROMOTING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE COUNTY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES.

UM, WE, UH, I DO HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY AND TOURISM RELATED ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY.

UH, BUT BY COORDINATING WITH ONE ANOTHER, AS WELL AS OTHER REGIONAL STATEWIDE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, WE CAN MULTIPLY OUR RESOURCES AND IMPROVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INCREASE, AND HOPEFULLY INCREASE VISITATION.

UH, WE DID UPDATE THE HISTORIC RESOURCES INVENTORY.

UM, THEY DO DISCOVER, UH, ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES ALL THE TIME.

AND SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S VERY FLUID.

SO IT'S NECESSARY TO UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS.

WE TALK ABOUT SIGNAGE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERPRETIVE SIGNS IN THE COUNTY, UH, INITIATED BY DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

THE, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION, CIVIL WAR TRAILS.

UH, ALL OF THESE SIGNS, UH, NEED TO BE INVENTORIED.

AND WE TALK ABOUT, UH, POSSIBLY HAVING A, A COUNTY, UH, PROGRAM FOR COUNTY HISTORICAL MARKERS, UH, WHERE WE COULD SET THE GUIDELINES, SET THE CRITERIA, UH, FOR, UH, THOSE, THOSE SIGNS.

AND LASTLY, WELL, NOT LASTLY, ON LAST, ON THIS SLIDE, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, UTILIZING GLOBAL COMMUNICATION, UH, REALLY PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH TECH RESOURCES TO IMPROVE THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE.

UH, ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM SOMEBODY REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN BATTLEFIELD TRUST, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, HISTORIC YORKTOWN MOBILE APP, UH, THAT THEY DEVELOPED TO, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO USE WHEN THEY'RE TAKING WALKING TOURS AND, OR DRIVING TOURS OF THE VILLAGE.

SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT DOING MORE OF THAT.

UH, IN TERMS OF HOUSING, WE SAY, UH, THAT, UM, YES, WE NEED A DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK TO MATCH THE NEEDS OF THE MARKET TO MATCH, MATCH, YOU KNOW, POPULATION GROWTH.

BUT THE COUNTY'S HISTORY, THE COUNTY'S TRADITION, COUNTY'S CHARACTER IS BASICALLY, UH, THE ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO RAISE CHILDREN.

UH, WE DO.

SO, WE DO, UH, EXPRESS A PREFERENCE, UH, FOR MAINTAINING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING AS THE PRIMARY PRINCIPLE TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE COUNTY.

UH, WE TALK ABOUT INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, REHABILITATION, UH, REPAIR INITIATIVES IN SOME OF THESE, UH, UH, OLDER AREAS.

WE HAVE, UH, MUCH OF THE COUNTY'S MODERATELY PRICED HOUSING IS LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WERE DEVELOPED, 50, 60, EVEN 70 YEARS AGO.

UH, THEY WOULD BENEFIT, UH, FROM, UH, UH, UH, SIDEWALKS, POTENTIALLY STREET LIGHTS, UH, LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, HOUSING, UH, REHABILITATION REPAIR PROJECTS, UH, TO, TO MAINTAIN THE VIABILITY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND KEEP THEM STRONG.

WE'VE USED, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, UH, IN CARVER GARDENS, UH, VERY SUCCESSFULLY.

WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THE SAME, UH, CARRIES CHAPEL ROAD.

THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, UH, HUBBARD LANE, PENMAN ROAD, YORK TERRACE AREA, UH, MIDDLETOWN FARMS, POTENTIALLY, UH, BARLOW ROAD, HICKORY HILLS, SPRINGFIELD ROAD.

SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, OBJECTIVE.

THE, UH, AT THE SUGGESTION OF THE COUNTY'S HOUSING MANAGER, WE, UH, INCLUDED A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY STUDY DONE

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OF THE COUNTY.

UH, WE'RE KIND OF STRANGE BECAUSE WE'RE SO LINEAR, WE'RE SO LONG.

UH, WE'RE REALLY TWO HOUSING MARKETS, AND THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF WILLIAMSBURG AREA STUDIES DONE.

UH, BUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, DO NOT INCLUDE THE LOWER COUNTY, WHICH IS WHERE THE BULK OF THE HOUSING IS.

SO, UH, WE THINK THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE.

AND EVERY TIME I SAY, WHEN I SAY WE MM-HMM.

, I'M REALLY SPEAKING FOR THE COMMITTEE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMITTEE.

UH, AND SO I'M USING THAT TERM BROADLY.

UH, AND WE TALK ABOUT, UH, HELPING SENIORS, UH, TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

WE'VE DONE, WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF SENIOR HOUSING, AS YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

AND MOST OF IT IS APARTMENTS.

UH, BUT ALL THE SURVEY DATA SHOWS THAT MOST SENIORS WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES WHERE THEY'VE LIVED, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THEIR LIVES.

UH, AND SO WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE.

AND SO WE TALK ABOUT IN THE PLAN ABOUT, UH, THE COUNTY PARTICIPATING IN, UM, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE, FINANCIAL OR OTHERWISE, TO HELP, UH, SENIORS UPGRADE THEIR HOMES WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CALL UNIVERSAL DESIGN FEATURES.

UH, STEP LESS, UH, FRONT DOORS, BATHROOMS WITH GRAB BARS, UH, LEVER HANDLES ON DOORS, WIDEN ENTRANCE DOORS, EASILY ACCESSIBLE, LIGHT FIX FIXTURES.

THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF THESE UNIVERSAL DESIGN FEATURES, UH, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

PUBLIC FACILITIES ELEMENT COVERS A WIDE RANGE.

IT'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST ELEMENT IN THE PLAN, BECAUSE IT COVERS SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY, TOURISM, GOVERNMENT OFFICES.

SO, SO THAT'S A LOT.

UM, WE TALK IN THERE ABOUT ACHIEVING AND MAINTAINING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE IN LIBRARY SERVICE.

THE STATE ACTUALLY HAS, UH, LEVELS E E E, TRIPLE E, UH, OF LIBRARY SERVICE BASED ON COLLECTIONS, TECHNOLOGY, UM, UH, FACILITIES, STAFFING, AND, UH, WITH THE RECENT, UH, EXPANSION, RENOVATION OF THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY IN FACILITIES WHERE WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO REACH, UH, THE TRIPLE E RATING.

AND, UH, BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, TO MAINTAIN THESE RATINGS OR ACHIEVE THEM.

IN THE CASE OF STAFFING, I THINK WE'RE AT DOUBLE E.

UH, SO WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STRIVING FOR TRIPLE E, UH, AS OUR GOAL AND, AND MAINTAINING IT.

UH, THE SECOND ONE ON YOUR, THE SLIDE HERE, UH, KIND OF TIES IN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, UH, UH, BROADBAND, UH, ELEMENT.

UH, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I WAS TALKING ABOUT PLACEMAKING EARLIER.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT PLACEMAKING IN YORKTOWN, UH, DOING WHAT WE CAN TO, UH, AGAIN, IMPROVE THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE.

UM, YOU, IF YOU'VE BEEN WALKED AROUND THE VILLAGE, YOU'VE SEEN, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND EFFORT, UH, ON SIDEWALKS MM-HMM.

, UH, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON, UH, PROVIDING WIFI IN THE VILLAGE, UH, WAY, FINDING SIGNS TO HELP PEOPLE GET AROUND.

UH, ALL OF THAT FALLS UNDER THE TOURISM BANNER UNDER PUBLIC FACILITIES.

WE TALK ABOUT, UH, HAVING A PHASED CONVERSION OF ATHLETIC FIELDS FROM NATURAL TO SYNTHETIC TUR.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

UM, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

BUT, UH, YOU SEE, UH, THE CHANGING CHANGE OF, UH, UH, UH, ATHLETIC STANDARDS AND YEAR-ROUND SPORTS, YEAR-ROUND PRACTICES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THESE FIELDS.

UH, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THEM OUT OF ROTATION.

UM, AND SO WE TALK IN THE PLAN ABOUT, UH, STARTING TO CONVERT, UH, UH, THOSE, UH, FIELDS TO SYN SYNTHETIC TURF, UH, TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWING DEMAND.

IT'S ALSO, IT ALSO, UH, RELATES TO SPORTS TOURISM, UH, WHICH WE TALK ABOUT IN AN ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT.

UH, SPORTS TOURISM IS, IS A BIG THING.

UH, YOU HELP HAVE THESE LOCALITIES AND SPONSOR THESE BIG, UH, TOURNAMENTS.

PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE STATE, AND OTHER STATES STAY IN OUR HOTELS, UH, EAT AT OUR RESTAURANTS.

AND SO, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AS WELL AS A PARKS AND REC STRATEGY.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, WE USE THE COMP PLAN TO GUIDE THE BUDGETING OF COUNTY FUNDS, UH, FOR C I P PROJECTS.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PLANNING 1 0 1.

I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, THE WHOLE POINT, UH, IS FOR THE COMP PLAN FOR THE C I P TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THE COMP PLAN.

AND YOU ALL DO THAT EVERY SPRING.

BUDGET, BUDGET SEASON, TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT.

UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, A LOT OF ROADWAY NEEDS.

WE TALKED ABOUT, NOT JUST ROADS, BUT, UM, WALKWAYS, BIKEWAYS, TRANSIT,

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AIR TRAVEL.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

SO WE NEED TO KEEP, UH, UH, WORKING TO, UH, UH, TAP INTO, UH, FEDERAL, STATE DOLLARS FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

WE GOT MONEY TO WIDEN, UH, THE NEXT SEGMENT OF ROUTE 17 UP TO DENBY BOULEVARD.

UH, WE GOT MONEY TO WIDEN, UH, VICTORY BOULEVARD AND ADD, UH, ADD TURN LANES AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CAPACITY PROBLEMS THERE.

SO WE NEED TO BUILD ON THAT MOMENTUM AND, AND KEEP WORKING ON THAT.

UH, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT INVESTING IN COMMUNITY URGE, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS RESPONSE CAPABILITY.

AGAIN, THEN THAT TIES INTO THE CIP, UH, TRANSPORTATION MODES THAT REDUCE RELIANCE ON SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLES.

UH, IN RECENT YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS MADE SIDEWALKS AND BIKEWAYS A MAJOR PRIORITY.

AND SO THIS, UH, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THIS NEW EMPHASIS ON WHAT WE CALL ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION OR ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION MODES, UH, BE REFLECTED IN THE DRAFT PLAN.

AND SO YOU'LL FIND A LOT IN THERE, UH, ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND TRANSIT, UH, AS WELL, I WOULD POINT OUT.

AND TYING IN, GOING BACK TO ENVIRONMENT, WE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO MITIGATE SEA LEVEL RISE.

UH, AGAIN, I MENTIONED ROAD ELEVATIONS.

WE GOT SOME STATE MONEY TO ELEVATE A SECTION OF SEAFORD ROAD.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, SEGMENTS THAT, THAT FLOOD ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM A SIMILAR PROJECT.

SO, UH, UH, SO WE ADDRESSED THAT IN THE PLAN.

THE, UH, LAND USE SETTLEMENT.

UM, GOING BACK TO 1991, WE'VE HAD THIS, UH, CONCEPT, TARGET, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, THAT, UH, AT FULL BUILD OUT, ASSUMING ALL THE COUNTY WERE FULLY DEVELOPED AT ITS MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY.

UH, THE POPULATION TARGET WE SHOULD SHOOT FOR BE ABOUT 80,000 RESIDENTS.

UH, UM, WE DON'T, WE SAY IN THE PLAN, IT'S NOT TO BE TAKEN AS A LITERAL TARGET.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA CLOSE THE DOORS, BLOCK THE ROADS, UH, IF WE HAVE 80,000 RESIDENTS.

BUT THE IDEA IS, YOU, YOU, YOU DEVELOP THE DENSITIES TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT BASED ON REALISTIC HOUSEHOLD SIZE, UH, ESTIMATES.

SO WE HAVE, UH, THAT IT'S, THAT GOAL HAS BEEN CARRIED THROUGH IN EVERY COMP PLAN UPDATE, AND IS IS INCLUDED IN, UH, THIS ONE AS WELL.

WE TALK ABOUT PREPARING A DETAILED AREA PLAN FOR LIGHTFOOT.

UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF CITIZEN INPUT PROCESS.

UH, WE HEARD IT, UH, A LOT, UH, FROM RESIDENCE UP THERE.

SKIM, UH, LIFEWOOD AREA.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT A, UH, COUNTY MAP, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT 600 CONTIGUOUS ACRES UP THERE.

THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF, UH, LIFEWOOD ROAD.

WELL, THE LIFEWOOD ENERGY, UH, NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE I 64 LIGHTFOOT INTERCHANGE.

UM, AND MOST OF IT IS OWNED BY JUST A COUPLE OF PROPERTY OWNERS.

UH, SO TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF LAND, AND THE FEELING IS THE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW THAT PROPERTY IS USED.

UH, AND SO THE COMMITTEE HEARD THOSE, UH, CITIZENS AND, UH, UH, INCLUDED IT IN THE DRAFT PLAN, UH, TO HAVE A, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA, UH, AREA PLAN.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DETAILED THAN YOU CAN DO IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO IT ADDRESSES LAND USE, IT ADDRESSES TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC FACILITIES, SERVICES, FISCAL IMPACTS THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT GOES DOWN TO A LOT MORE, UH, MORE, UH, HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL THAN YOU, IT'S POSSIBLE IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO INCLUDE IN THE PLAN.

AND SO IT'S THERE IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT.

UH, WE TALK ABOUT ASSISTING IN PRESERVING CONSERVATION AREAS, MAKING THEM ACCESSIBLE TO COUNTY RESIDENTS.

UH, I MENTIONED SOME OF THE, UH, AREAS THAT WERE REQUIRED BY THE AMERICAN BATTLEFIELD TRUST.

WE REALLY DON'T CONTROL THOSE.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE HISTORICAL, UH, RESOURCES, UH, BE, YOU KNOW, MADE AVAILABLE IN SOME WAY.

AND WE'D LIKE TO WORK, UH, WITH THE TRUST AND WHOEVER ELSE, UM, TO MAKE THAT A REALITY.

UH, WE, UM, WE, UH, HAVE A GREEN WASTE PLAN.

AND, UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO SEE ELEMENTS OF THAT GREEN WASTE PLAN ACTUALLY TAKE EFFECT.

UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SMITH FARM ESTATES DEVELOPMENT ON YORKTOWN ROAD, YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE, UH, BECO VIRGINIA POWER, UH, EASEMENT THAT RUNS DIAGONALLY, UH, THROUGH THAT AREA.

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UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST SEGMENT, UH, OF THE GREENWAY THAT'LL BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, UH, TRAIL, UH, FOR WALKERS, BIKERS, WHATEVER.

AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS CONTINUE IT, UH, THROUGH THAT, UH, THROUGH THAT EASEMENT, UH, ALL THE WAY ACROSS YORKTOWN ROAD.

TIE IT IN WITH SOME OF THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT ARE PLANNED AS PART OF SMITH FARM STATES.

AND SOME OF THAT ARE BEING DONE AT THE COUNTIES, UH, AT THE COUNTY'S EXPENSE, UH, TO DEVELOP A, A, A SORT OF A LINEAR PARK OPEN SPACE NETWORK, UH, DOWN IN THE TAB AREA.

UM, WE TALKED A LOT IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS ABOUT, AGAIN, REDEVELOPMENT, ADAPTIVE REUSE.

UH, AND SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

UH, IT IS A LAND USE STRATEGY.

IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL STRATEGY FOR THAT MATTER.

UH, SO WE TALK ABOUT, UH, FACILITATING THE REHABILITATION OF ABANDONED BLOODED PROPERTIES.

UH, AND THAT COULD BE, UH, LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE, UH, BE BREW PUB ON ROUTE 17, UH, BACKING UP TO OLD YORK HAMPTON HIGHWAY, WHERE THE, UH, WE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY OLD DILAPIDATED STRUCTURES.

THE E D BOUGHT THE LAND REMOVED, DEMOLISHED THE BUILDINGS, CLEANED UP THE SITE.

AND, UH, BREW PUB IS SLOWLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, DOWN THERE.

AND WHEN IT'S ALL IS SAID AND DONE, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY, UH, NICE ENHANCEMENT.

WE THINK THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO, UH, WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT.

UH, BIG PIECE OF THE LAND USE ELEMENT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, APART FROM THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, THIS IS REALLY THE MAIN TOOL, THE MAIN POLICY TOOL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, SIMILAR TO A ZONING MAP, EXCEPT THAT IT'S, UH, GUIDANCE RATHER THAN THE LAW.

UM, BUT EVERY COLOR REPRESENTS A DIFFERENT LAND USE.

AND SO, UH, ALL SHADES OF YELLOW ARE RESIDENTIAL.

SHADES OF RED ARE, UH, COMMERCIAL SHADES OF GRAY ARE INDUSTRIAL.

UH, THE LIGHT GREEN THAT YOU SEE IS MILITARY.

THE DARK GREEN THAT YOU SEE IS CONSERVATION.

UM, AND WHAT REALLY STANDS OUT IS, UH, HOW MUCH OF THAT, UH, GREEN THERE IS ON THE MAP.

UH, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN CAMP PERRY, THE WEAPON STATION, ALL THE PARK SERVICE PROPERTY OF THE BATTLEFIELD NEWS WATERWORKS, UH, TOGETHER MILITARY AND CONSERVATION LAND, UM, MOST OF WHICH IS NOT TAXABLE, REPRESENT MORE THAN HALF OF THE THE COUNTY'S LAND AREA.

UH, I, I WANNA GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THERE REALLY AREN'T A LOT, UH, IN MOST CASES, PROPOSED CHANGES, UH, THAT THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH ARE INTENDED ONLY TO REFLECT CHANGES IN ZONING, LAND USE, OR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE 2013.

UH, NOW THERE'S ONE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS LAND USE MAP AND THE, AND THE DRAFT PLAN, AND THE ONE THAT'S IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

AND THAT IS THAT THE DRAFT PLAN PROPOSES TO DO AWAY WITH THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION.

IF YOU RECALL, THERE ARE SIX AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE A MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION.

THAT MEANS THEY COULD, THEY ARE, UH, POTENTIALLY APPROPRIATE FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SINCE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS, WOULD BE APPROVED IN ANY OF THESE AREAS, IT WOULD, UH, AND THERE IS NO, UH, NOTHING TO PRECLUDE A PROPERTY OWNER IN OTHER AREAS FROM APPLYING FOR A MIXED USE ZONING.

UH, THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T SERVE ANY PURPOSE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS, UH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

AND THAT IS, UH, AT THE MARQUEE.

UH, WE DO INCLUDE SOME TEXT IN THERE SAYING THAT, UH, UH, SOME RESIDENTIAL, UH, MIGHT HELP TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES AND, AND, UH, TURN THAT PROJECT AROUND.

UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE, UH, PROPOSING TO TAKE THE MIXED USE, UH, OVERLY DESIGNATION OUT OF THE PLANT ALTOGETHER.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THE CHANGES.

SO THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE LIGHTFOOT SKIM AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THESE CROSS HITCH AREAS IN LIGHTFOOT AND SKIMM.

OH, UH, THAT'S THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION, UH, THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MAP, UH, THE CURRENT, THE 2035 LAND USE MAP, THAT'S IN THE 2013, UH, PLAN.

UM, IT'S ALMOST ALL DESIGNATED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, UH, OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROPOSED CHANGES, UM, UH, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED FOR THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG FOR THE WATER MILL WATERSHED RESERVOIR WATERSHED ARE PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE CONSERVATION.

YOU SEE, THE CROSS HATCH, CROSS HATCHING WENT AWAY ALTOGETHER.

THAT'S THE ELIMINATION OF THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION.

AND THE REST IS REALLY JUST TO, UH, REFLECT CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN LAND USE SINCE THEN.

UH, KELTON STATION ARBORDALE, UH, THOSE PROJECTS, UH,

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UH, GRAND OAK, THOSE PROJECTS, UH, HAVE ALL BEEN APPROVED SINCE THE 2013 PLAN AND ARE ZONED ACCORDINGLY.

SO WE FELT IT WAS, UH, MADE SENSE TO BRING THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP INTO ACCORDANCE, UH, WITH THE, UH, EXISTING ZONING.

UH, MOVING FURTHER SOUTH.

THIS IS THE MARQUEE AREA.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT HUGE, UH, MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF 64.

THAT WAS THE MAIN TOPIC OF DISCUSSION DURING THE LAST, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE IN 2013.

UH, YOU SEE THE JAMES TIS FARM UP THERE OFF OF COLONIAL PARKWAY, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS THE AGRI TRACT.

AND, UH, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE PARCELS.

IN FACT, THERE ARE THREE ADJACENT PARCELS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED BY THE BATTLEFIELD TRUST.

AND SO IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE FOR THOSE TO BE DESIGNATED, UH, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ANYMORE.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THOSE TO CONSERVATION.

IN ADDITION, YOU'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, TRANQUILITY, MARKE HILLS, WHITTAKER MILL.

AGAIN, ALL OF THEM APPROVED SINCE 2013.

AND SO HERE WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO BRING THE LAND USE MAP INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING, UH, MOVING, UH, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH.

UH, HERE, UH, AGAIN, UH, OFF OF, UH, CRAWFORD ROAD.

THE, UH, THIS IS ABOUT A HUNDRED.

I CAN'T FIND MY CURSOR EARLIER.

IT IS ABOUT A HUNDRED ACRES, UH, ACQUIRED BY THE BATTLEFIELD TRUST.

UM, WAS, WAS, UH, DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IN FACT, THERE WAS AN APPROVED SUBDIVISION DOWN THERE CALLED BATTLEFIELD BLUFF.

UM, AND, UH, ALSO THE, UH, END OF BAPTIST ROAD, UH, IS, IS DESIGN CURRENTLY DESIGNATED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THERE'S APPROVED SUBDIVISION THERE.

UH, SO IN THE 2040, UH, DRAFT PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU, THE BATTLEFIELD TRUST, UH, PROPERTY GOES TO, UM, CONSERVATION.

THE BAPTIST ROAD PROPERTY GOES TO DENKI RESIDENTIAL IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING.

UH, THIS IS THE PARCEL I REFERENCED EARLIER THAT WAS MISTAKENLY CODED AS A MILITARY.

UH, IT IS ACTUALLY NATIONAL PARK SERVICE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO CONSERVATION, UH, HERE IN THE GRAFTON AREA.

AGAIN, ANOTHER OF THESE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATIONS, UM, AROUND, THEY'RE AROUND GRAFTON DRIVE, ROUTE 17.

AND THEN, UH, GOT ABOUT 200 ACRES OVER HERE RECENTLY ACQUIRED BY NEWPORT NEWS.

UH, WATER WORKS, UM, FOR, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, RESERVOIR PROTECTION.

AND SO, AGAIN, UH, IN THE DRAFT PLAN, THAT PROPERTY GOES TO CONSERVATION.

THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION GOES AWAY ALTOGETHER.

UH, THEN COMING TO THE VERY SOUTHERNMOST PART OF THE COUNTY DOWN CAB AREA, UH, THE LAST OF OUR MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATIONS HERE WHERE COMMONWEALTH GREEN IS, UH, ALONG COMMONWEALTH DRIVE.

UM, AND, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, THIS AREA, UH, SHA SHAMROCK ESTATES BIRD LANE, UH, OAK LANE, UH, THIS AREA WEST OF 17.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, DESIGNATED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AND WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY, BECAUSE IT'S ALL DEVELOPED AND IT'S ALL DEVELOPED AS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

HMM.

SO, UH, THAT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE.

UH, THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF VICTORY BOULEVARD ACROSS FROM WALMART IS, UH, UH, HARBOR STATION, SENIOR SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT, UH, ZONE COMMERCIAL.

SO IN THE DRAFT PLAN, UH, THAT GOES TO COMMERCIAL, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION, THOSE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, UH, DESIGNATIONS GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AGAIN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PRACTICAL, UH, EFFECT, UH, OF THOSE CHANGES BECAUSE THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE AND THE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED.

AND THEN, UH, THAT MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION DOWN THERE AROUND COMMONWEALTH GREEN, UH, GOES AWAY ALTOGETHER.

SO I'M GONNA STOP THERE AND, UH, JUST REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION, UH, A WEEK FROM TOMORROW, SEVEN O'CLOCK AT THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, UH, A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF HERE ON ROUTE 17.

AND, UH, THAT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO DISCUSS THE, THE, UH, PLAN AND WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU HEAR TONIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M GOOD.

I HAVE TWO.

OH, WE HAVE TWO RIGHT HERE.

MR. CROSS, TWO, TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, YOU'VE REFERRED TO THE, UH, AREA PLAN FOR SKIM LIGHTFOOT.

HAVE YOU GOT ANY ESTIMATE

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ON THE TIMING OF THAT PLAN WHEN YOU MIGHT, WHEN WELL, ASSUMING, UH, ASSUMING IT, IT GETS APPROVED, UH, THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY COMMITTED TO ADOPTING THE PLAN BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT, UH, WITH THE LAND USE CONSULTANT.

UH, AND SO I WOULD GUESS, UH, AT, IT WOULD, IT COULD TAKE PLACE AS EARLY AS THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE FY UH, 24, 25.

UM, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GET THAT MONEY IN INTO THE BUDGET.

AND, UH, SO, UH, WELL, LET ME SEE.

NOW LET ME, LET ME THINK THIS THROUGH.

THEY JUST ADOPTED THE BUDGET FOR 2324.

SO, YEAH, SO 24, 25 POTENTIALLY.

UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION, KIND OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, CAUSE I'VE HEARD IT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE.

DO WE PLAN TO HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM AND, AND WHAT, WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THIS GROUP TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENS? THERE ARE NO PLANS TO HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM.

UH, WE'VE HAD SIX, UH, PUBLIC FORUMS. WE'VE COLLECTED A LOT OF INPUT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UH, WE HAD THE CITIZEN SURVEY, WHICH IS A WAY TO GET SCIENTIFICALLY RELIABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UH, ATTITUDES, OPINIONS OF THE CITIZENS.

WE'VE HAD 34 COMMITTEE MEETINGS, 34, UH, ALL OF THEM OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AND AS YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU WERE A FREQUENT COMMENTER MM-HMM.

, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZEN COMMENT.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT, UH, UH, ANOTHER FORUM WOULD NOT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY.

AND TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYTHING ELSE, DYLAN? NOPE.

OKAY.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, I HAVE A STACK OF PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO SPEAK.

IF YOU HAVEN'T, UM, WE'LL DO THAT AT THE END.

OKAY.

OR THREE.

YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES? YEAH, THREE.

I'M SORRY, IT'S THREE MINUTES.

GOSH.

WE'LL BE HERE FOR THREE DAYS, .

SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MADAM CHAIR, YOU MIGHT WANNA EXPLAIN ABOUT THE LIGHTING OF THE YES.

OH, I WILL.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO THE LAST MINUTE, IT, IT'LL STAY GREEN WHEN YOU START IT.

START WARNING WHEN, WHEN IT'S YELLOW THAT YOU'RE ALMOST OUTTA TIME.

WHEN IT TURNS RED, IT, IT WILL TURN OFF.

OKAY.

DID THAT MAKE SENSE? THIR 30, I MEAN, IT CLICKS INTO, IT'S GOT SOME GREEN TO YELLOW WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT.

AND THAT'S REALLY A SIGN THAT IT'S TIME TO, TO WRAP UP.

AND THEN THE BE BEAVER GOES OFF AT RED WHEN IT TURNS RED.

OKAY.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA CALL YOU UP, BUT WHEN YOU COME TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND READY.

OUR FIRST APPLICANT, SPEAKER DALE L.

CUP SAYS D DMV? YES.

OKAY.

AND YOU'LL STATE YOUR ADDRESS.

NAME YES, MA'AM.

AND ADDRESS? YES.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND THE FELLOW YORK COUNTY COMMISSIONS MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME SOME TIME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS DALE CUP.

I OWN 19 ACRES AT 1403, GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, AND FORMER RESIDENT OF THIS AREA FOR 20 YEARS.

MY LAND HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE LIST OF PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES.

I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN, AND I WILL TRY TO OUTLINE FOR YOU IN AN ORDERLY MASH FASHION WHY I AM CURRENTLY ZONED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WITH MIXED USE OVERLAY.

IT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL MY PROPERTY SINCE 1994 WHEN YORK COUNTY CAME TO ME AND SHOWED A MAP OF WHERE THERE WAS GOING TO BE A NEW ROAD FROM COMMONWEALTH DRIVE THROUGH MY PROPERTY TO DIVIDE IT.

AND ON OUT TO 17, AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS GONNA BE ON THE EAST SIDE

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OF MY VETERINARY HOSPITAL AND THE WEST SIDE OF MY MOTHER'S HOME, WHICH MEANT THE ROAD WAS CUTTING THROUGH THE CENTER OF OUR PROPERTY, THE 19 ACRES.

AND IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT MY WIFE, CYNTHIA, AND I DECIDED THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK, THAT WE'VE GOTTA CROSS THIS ROAD TO GO TO MY MOTHER'S HOME.

AND THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE HOUSE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TEARED DOWN JUST FOR THE ROAD.

SO WE DECIDED AT THAT TIME TO SELL PINE MEADOW VETERINARY HOSPITAL TO THREE OF MY ASSOCIATES.

UM, THAT WAS THERE AT THE HOSPITAL.

AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD SEVEN VETERINARIANS, AND WE HAD A LAY STAFF OF 25.

IT WAS THE LARGEST VETERINARY HOSPITAL ON THE PENINSULA.

WE HAD BUILT IT FROM MYSELF TO SEVEN VETERINARIANS.

AND SO, UH, AT THAT POINT, CYNTHIA AND I MOVED.

WE BOUGHT THE LAND IN 1979 FROM DAVID TRAILER WITH A HANDSHAKE AND BUILT A HOSPITAL THAT YEAR.

WHEN WE MOVED, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD START TO TRY TO SELL THIS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY THAT WE HAD AROUND THE HOSPITAL.

I SOLD AN ACRE AND A HALF AND, UH, HOSPITAL TO MY ASSOCIATES.

WHEN WE FOUND OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, THE COUNTY DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GOING TO PUT THE ROAD THROUGH.

AND WE, MY, SINCE THEN, MYSELF HAD ALREADY MOVED HOUR AND A HALF AWAY TO WAVERLY.

AND MY THREE MINUTES UP, I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT STARTED.

, I'M LANDLOCKED.

WHAT DO WE DO? GRAND.

WE, WELL, A LITTLE BIT.

YOU GO AHEAD.

WE, WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU FINISH.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WELL, WITH NO ROAD, I'M LANDLOCKED, UH, COMMON GROUND.

COMMONWEALTH GREEN CAME TO US AND WANTED TO, UM, REZONE THEIR PROPERTY FOR MIXED USE AND THAT THEY WOULD BUILD A ROAD THROUGH AND AROUND US AT THAT TIME.

AND THEY STATED THAT, YES, THAT'LL WORK.

THAT WAS REZONED.

AND THEY BUILT THE APARTMENTS BEHIND US.

BUT THEN THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THE ROAD.

AND THEY WENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

TWO OF THEM, THEY WERE DENIED.

THE THIRD ONE, THEY SAID, YES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A ROAD.

SO FOR THE SECOND TIME, I WAS LANDLOCKED.

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY FROM COMMONWEALTH OR FROM 17.

AND SO GIVING US A NEW REZONING OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, I HAVE NO WAY OR FLEXIBILITY OF USING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

RIGHT NOW.

I'M, I'M, UM, ZONED THE MIXED USE OVERLAY.

I WOULD HOPE THAT WE JUST LEAVE IT THAT WAY TO GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY WITH FLEXIBILITY TO ENTICE DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

THAT WHOLE AREA OF KILN CREEK, UH, IS BASED ON THAT PROPOSALS AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

BUT WITH ME BEING LANDLOCKED, I HAVE NO WAY OF BEING ABLE TO SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU WITH ALL EARN THAT WE LEAVE AT LEAST THE ZONING IN THAT AREA.

AND WE'RE THE LAST ONES IN YORK COUNTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, KE CREEK, THE CREEK GOES THROUGH.

THERE'S NO OTHER RESIDENTIAL AROUND US, BUT COMMONWEALTH THE APARTMENTS, THE WHOLE WORKS IS RIGHT SQUARE BEHIND US.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER FOR YOU, JOHN.

ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.

AND WHO'S YOUR, UM, SO YOU'VE GONE TO YOUR BOARD OF SUPERVISOR FOR THAT AREA.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T, YOU HAVE BEEN TO YOUR BOARD OF SUPERVISOR FOR YOUR AREA.

THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION FIRST OF ALL IS TO GET YES, HIM INVOLVED.

OKAY.

ALL HER.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO, THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

OKAY, OUR NEXT ONE, UM, APPEARS TO BE JOHN WARLEY.

IT'S IS MR. WARLEY HERE.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MM-HMM.

.

MY NAME'S JOHN WORLEY, AND I RESIDE AT ONE 19 ABERTHAL WAY IN YORKTOWN.

UM, AS MR. CUFF HAS ALLUDED TO, UH, AND AS, UH, MR. CROSS STATED,

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PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD ELIMINATE THE MIXED USE OVERLAY.

UH, I AM TOLD AND KNOW THAT WITH THE MIXED USE OVERLAY, THERE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENTS WHICH WERE APPROVED, AND THERE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED.

THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY IN THIS COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS FINAL AUTHORITY AND SAY SO OVER THE APPROVAL, A PROCESS.

SO WHY ELIMINATE SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING? IT'S NOT BROKEN.

WHY TRY TO FIX IT IF IT IS TAKEN AWAY? THEN THOUGH ANY APPLICATION THAT COMES FORWARD THAT DOESN'T MEET THE ZONING UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE INITIAL REACTION WILL BE, IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE COMP PLAN.

THEREFORE, IT'S NOT PERMISSIBLE.

THIS HAVING THE OVERUSE, UH, LAND THIS OVERUSE PLAN, UH, FOR MIXED USE.

WE TALK ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS HERE IN THE, UH, AS WE STUDY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DEVELOP IT WELL, DEMOGRAPHICS, CHANGE NEEDS CHANGE, HOUSING NEEDS CHANGE, THE CHANGE AT THE POPULATION AGES, THERE ARE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

YOU NEED TO D DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL NEEDS COME ALONG, DIFFERENT HOUSING NEEDS.

ALL OF THIS CHANGES.

THIS VEHICLE.

THE LAND USE OVERLAY PROVISION PROVIDES YOU A SYSTEM BY WHICH YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

AND LET'S TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, DR.

CUP AND CYNTHIA'S PROPERTY.

IT IS LOCATED, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, IN THE KILN CREEK CO AT THE END OF COMMONWEALTH DRIVE.

MM-HMM.

, DR.

CUP HAS BEEN A CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTY, PAID HIS TAXES, AND NOW THE COUNTY MOVED TO REZONE AND PUT IN MIXED USE THAT YOU DRIVE THROUGH EVERY DAY TO GET TO HIS PROPERTY.

IT CONSISTS OF SEVERAL HUNDRED APARTMENTS, 94 CONDOMINIUMS FOR SALE, A HOTEL, AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL, AND NINE LIVE ABOVE PROPOSED UNITS WITH COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND THREE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN SOLD AND OCCUPIED.

HE, HIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE DEVELOPED UNDER A MIXED USE OVERLAY TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS THERE.

THE, THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE CON ZONED NOW WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR USE AS A INDUSTRIAL USE OR LARGE OFFICE PARK, IS BEYOND QUESTION LIKELY TO NEVER HAPPEN.

I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT YOU NEED A COMMITTEE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR THIS LANDOWNER WHO IS SUFFERING FOR IF THIS MIXED USE OVERLAY IS TAKEN AWAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS RICHARD HOWELL, WHERE YOU DRIVE.

HERE WE GO.

HEY, MR. MADAM.

CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RICHARD HOWELL.

I LIVE WITH 1 0 4 HORSESHOE DRIVE.

WELL, I, I WANNA SAY FIRST OFF, THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO'S WORKED ON THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A HUGE DOCUMENT, HUGE EFFORT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE TRENDS IN THE COUNTY AND TO PREPARE THE GROUND FOR HOW BEST TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO, TO IMPLEMENT THINGS FOR THOSE TRENDS.

ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'VE ADDRESSED WITH THIS GROUP HAS BEEN SHORT TERM RENTALS AS THE UP AND COMING, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTY.

I'VE SHOWN YOU WHERE THAT'S GOING, LAID THAT OUT IN DATA FOR YOU.

AND WE'VE SEEN THE TREND IMPLEMENTED.

BUT I WAS TOLD WHEN WE ASK ABOUT WHY IT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THE PLAN, THAT IT WAS TOO GRANULAR.

IT WAS TOO INSIGNIFICANT TO BE AT THAT LEVEL.

WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE PLAN THAT AREN'T PARTICULARLY HUGE, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY.

YET SDRS HAVE TAKEN UP MORE THAN 50% OF YOUR TIME OVER THE LAST YEAR.

I KNOW WE DID THE RESEARCH OVER 50% OF THE SUVS YOU ADDRESSED AT THE TIME YOU SPENT WARRANT STS.

INTERESTING.

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THOSE TRENDS CONTINUE.

THE APPLICATIONS CONTINUE.

IT IS A GROWING BUSINESS CONCERN IN THE COUNTY.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE SAID, WE NEED TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS THING, BUT IT HASN'T RISEN TO THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE THAT WE'VE SEEN FIT TO ADDRESS IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A MISTAKE.

IF WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF IT, WE'LL BE TRYING TO CATCH IT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T, IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS IT NOW, YOU'LL BE ADDRESSING IT WHEN IT IS A PROBLEM.

SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SEEN THE WISDOM IN THAT AND HAVE SEEN FIT TO INCORPORATE THAT INC.

INCORPORATE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, AT LEAST WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT.

I WOULD SAY AT THE VERY LEAST, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD ADDRESS THIS GROWING TREND AND INCORPORATE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS HOW YOU ATTEND TO ADDRESS IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, OUR NEXT PERSON'S NAME IS TOM CHAMBERLAIN.

OH, CHAMBERLAIN.

I'M SORRY.

COULDN'T SEE THE AGE, MR. CHA CHAMBERLAIN.

THERE WE GO.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TWO 70 BARLOW ROAD.

AND, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I WANNA THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WERE, THAT WERE PUT IN.

I, I ATTENDED SEVERAL OF THOSE SESSIONS.

I ATTENDED MANY OF THE PUBLIC, UM, FORUMS AND, UH, IN FACT, AT THE LAND USE PUBLIC FORUM, WE WERE ALL BUT ASSURED THAT THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC FORUM WHEN THIS THING WAS FINALIZED.

AND, UH, THAT'S CONCERNING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT.

UM, OVERALL, IT'S A GOOD PLAN.

I WANNA TALK A COUPLE MINUTES ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE OF THAT.

UM, THERE'S GOOD WORK BEEN DONE ON THE PRIMARY ROADS, BUT THE SECONDARY ROADS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THERE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK IT'S SEVEN DANGEROUS SECONDARY ROADS IN THE COUNTY, BUT THERE'S NO MONEY TO FIX IT.

AND SO WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT JUST SAYS, WE'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THERE'S NO MONEY TO FIX IT.

UM, AND SO THE SIX YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR SECONDARY ROADS THAT YOU JUST APPROVED, UM, NOT LONG AGO, THAT'S GOING INTO THE BUDGET.

SIX YEAR PLAN, ONE SINGLE INTERSECTION IS GONNA BE FIXED BY THAT, BY THAT SIX YEAR PLAN.

ONE SINGLE INTERSECTION.

UM, IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S BEING SPENT YET IN THAT CAPITAL PLAN, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION ON A RESTAURANT JUST DOWN THE ROAD THAT IMPACTS A SINGLE OWNER OF THAT RESTAURANT.

SO WE HAVE TWO AND A HALF MILLION SINGLE OWNER RESTAURANT.

LET'S LET PEOPLE EAT 1 MILLION AND, AND AN INPUT OF NOTHING CAN BE DONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THESE DANGEROUS ROADS.

UM, THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.

AND IT'S CONCERNING THAT THERE'S NO STRATEGY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S PUT IN THERE, PUT IN SOMETHING LIKE, UM, 25% OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL BE TARGETED FOR THESE SECONDARY ROADS FOR IMPROVEMENT OF THE SECONDARY ROADS.

LET'S PUT SOME VISION IN THIS THING.

LET'S LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE DO.

NOT JUST SAY THERE IS NO MONEY.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BACK.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, BRADLEY, BERNARD RA, OH, I'M SORRY.

SAY IT AGAIN.

RA RE I'LL BE, I'M GONNA THANK Y'ALL IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME, AND BY TELLING YOU I'M GONNA BE VERY BRIEF.

I THINK MOST OF WHAT I WOULD SAY IS ALREADY BEEN SAID.

I WOULD URGE YOU TO KEEP ME, I'M SORRY, SIR.

I NEEDED YOUR, OH.

TO STATE YOUR ADDRESS, MY NAME IS BRADLEY BROWN ADDRESS.

MY ADDRESS IS 1102 DANDY LU ROAD, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA.

AND THANK YOU.

AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF DR.

CUP.

UM, MY FAMILY OR CORPORATION, MY FAMILY OWNS, OWNS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF DR.

CUPS BETWEEN HIS PROPERTY AND 17.

AND I DO KNOW HE HAS BEEN TRYING FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO SELL HIS PROPERTY.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT HIS BEST USE, BEST OPPORTUNITY

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TO SELL THAT PROPERTY IS TO MAINTAIN THE MIXED USE TO ZONING OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT IT HAS.

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH YOU TALK ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE DISTRICT AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN ALL WORK IT OUT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THIS ADDS AN ADDITIONAL STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

UH, AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL HELP PROMOTE HIS SALE OF THE PROPERTY QUICKLY.

NOW, MAYBE OTHER AREAS DON'T NEED IT, BUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS SANDWICHED RIGHT THERE IN AN AREA NEAR NEWPORT NEWS WHERE WE HAVE A VERY HIGH, UM, DENSITY POPULATION.

AND THAT COUPLED WITH THIS MIXED USE AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTY BEING PREDOMINANTLY MIXED USE IS, MAKES IT AN IDEAL PLACE FOR THAT USE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEVERLY CARMS. K A K R A M S.

KRASS.

KRAMS. KRAS.

KRAMS, CS.

OKAY.

CRAMS. IT'S, IT'S BEVERLY KRAMS. YES, MA'AM.

AND I, UM, RESIDE AT 1 0 5 CHURCH STREET ON THE BLUFF, RIGHT OUT THIS LAST WINDOW.

WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 104 YEARS.

AND BEFORE THAT, UM, WE WERE WHERE THE POST OFFICE IS.

AND BEFORE THAT WE WERE ON COOK ROAD, WHICH IS NAMED FOR MY FAMILY.

SO I HAVE A REAL BIAS FOR YORKTOWN.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT, MRS. CHAIRMAN, MADAM CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE COMP PLAN PROPOSALS BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

UM, THEY SHOW A TOTAL REMAKE OF YORKTOWN'S HISTORIC WATERFRONT AREA.

AND I BELIEVE THAT ANY SEMBLANCE OF HISTORIC DISTRICT GOALS ARE DISAPPEARING IN THIS VILLAGE.

I SEE A MAJOR NEW MODERN TOURIST DISTRICT, NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

FOR THIS PROPOSAL, I SEE A RIVERWALK LANDING EXPERIENCE FROM THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM PAST CORN, WALLACE'S CAVE, AND BEYOND THE YORKTOWN VICTORY MONUMENT.

IN 2003, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSED A NEW HISTORIC DISTRICT DISTRICT STATUS FOR THIS ENTIRE VILLAGE OF YORKTOWN.

IT INCLUDES ABOUT A HUNDRED PAGES OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION ZONING LAWS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ABIDE BY.

THAT INCLUDES ME, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL.

AND THE ENTIRE ZONING TEXT WAS ENACTED IN 2004.

THE STATED PURPOSE WAS, AND I QUOTE SPECIFICALLY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF YORKTOWN UNQUOTE.

THE ANALOGY THEY USED, I BELIEVE, WAS MY NEIGHBOR COULD PAINT THEIR DOOR PURPLE.

UM, THE COUNTY PROPOSALS AT THE WATERFRONT ARE CHARACTER ALTERING.

THEY DIMINISH OUR PROUD HISTORY.

THEY CHANGE THIS ONE OF A KIND PLACE IN AMERICA FOREVER.

YOUR PROPOSALS CREATE ON ALL-ENCOMPASSING, MODERN NEW, CREATE AN ALL-ENCOMPASSING MODERN NEW WATERFRONT, A TOURIST DISTRICT, A GREATLY EXPANDED RIVER WALK, LANDING DESTINATION EXPERIENCE.

THERE IS NO HISTORIC YORKTOWN BEACH.

HOW A LARGE CRUISE SHIP PORT IS APPROPRIATE TO OUR HISTORIC VILLAGE IS BEYOND ME.

THE CRUISE SHIPS PROPOSED ARE A HUNDRED FEET TALLER THAN THE COLEMAN BRIDGE.

SOME OF THEM CARRY 3,200 PEOPLE AND 900, UM, CREW.

ALSO A LARGE DOCK MASTER SUPPORT FACILITY.

BUILT A TOP YORKTOWN'S FIRST BEACH FORTIFICATION IN 16 HUNDREDS IS PROPOSED.

A ROOFTOP ACTIVITY AREA IS PROPOSED FOR THE YORKTOWN BEACH HOTEL.

UH, NEXT DOOR TO ME, ALTERATIONS TO OUR 1600TH PLATTED WATER STREET IS PROPOSED.

NEW SIDEWALKS, NEW STREET LIGHTS, PLUS NUMEROUS OTHER NON-TRADITIONAL STRUCTURES WITH ADDED OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES PROPOSED ON PRIVATE LAND.

I LIVE HERE.

I AM BOUND BY YOUR STRICT ZONING LAWS, AND I HAVE READ ABOUT THIS IN THE NEWSPAPERS.

YORKTOWN'S HISTORY EQUALS JAMES TOWNS.

IT EQUALS COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG.

NONE OF YOUR PROPOSALS FOR HISTORIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN EITHER OF THESE AREAS.

PLEASE PROTECT OUR BEAUTIFUL VILLAGE.

IT REMAINS A MAJOR PART OF THE FOUNDING OF AMERICA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

IS THIS ANOTHER ONE? RON? RON STROBEL.

OH, OKAY.

THIS ONE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, RON STROBEL, 2 0 5 SHADY BLUFF POINT.

UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONSERVE YORK COUNTY FOUNDATION, A NONPROFIT ESTABLISHED HERE IN YORK COUNTY TO ADVOCATE FOR CONSERVATION.

I MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I DID PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF THESE STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, SESSIONS.

I WANT TO THANK

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MR. KING AND MR. CROSS AND THE COMMITTEE.

CAUSE I THOUGHT THEY DID FANTASTIC WORK.

UM, THEY LISTENED TO US.

WE HAD DIFFERENCES.

UM, BUT, UM, WE ALWAYS KIND OF CAME TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL CONSENSUS.

IS THE PLAN PERFECT? I THINK NOBODY WOULD SAY IT WAS PERFECT.

I THINK IT COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT, AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UH, ON THE VERY MOST, THOUGH, THE TIME AND EFFORT PUT TOGETHER BY MR. KING, THE COMMITTEE AND MR. CROSS IS SINCERELY APPRECIATED BY THE CITIZENS.

UM, I SENT A LETTER TO MR. CROSS TONIGHT IN THE PLANNING, UH, DEPARTMENT, JUST ON SOME ISSUES OR SOME BIGGER PICTURES, THINGS WE SAW A LOT OF 'EM HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

SO I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH MOST OF THESE PRETTY QUICKLY AND ADDRESS A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED, UH, TONIGHT.

UM, THERE'S THREE PIECES HERE THAT I, UH, TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCC UH, ACCEPTANCE.

I, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AND ADVOCATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IDEA.

UH, WHAT HAPPENED AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL IN NOVEMBER 21 AND DOWN AT TAB LIBRARY.

UM, WE HAD PUSHED HARD FOR THAT.

THERE WAS SOME INITIAL RESISTANCE TO ACTUALLY HAVING THAT, UH, PUBLIC SESSION ON LAND USE.

UH, BUT, UH, WE ALL CAME TOGETHER AND WE FIGURED IT OUT AND WE DID IT.

AND I THINK MR. CROSS, WE HAD 50, 70 PEOPLE TOTAL COME OUT WHERE THE PREVIOUS HEARING, AT LEAST AT BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL, HAD ONE ATTENDEE.

UM, THAT WAS MR. CHAMBERLAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, BUT WE HAD ADVOCATED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THAT ATTENDANCE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY WELL RECEIVED BY THE, THE RESIDENTS.

I JUST THINK IT'S TIME TO BE PROUD OF THIS PLAN AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITIZENS AND TELL THEM WHAT'S IN THIS PLAN, WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM.

IT'S THEIR INPUT BEING KIND OF CAPTURED WITHIN A DOCUMENT.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST THREE MINUTES AND NO FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE BOARD, UH, OR THE STEERING COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT IT ACTUALLY IS A, A VALUE TO PRESENT THIS AND BE PROUD OF THIS PLAN THAT'S BEEN BEEN BROUGHT TOGETHER.

UM, I ALSO, UH, ADVOCATE FOR AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF SOME TYPE, MAYBE ON THE PLAN SO THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO READ, UH, THE ENTIRE PLAN ITSELF.

CONSERVATION, UH, MR. CROSS LAID OUT SEVERAL CONSERVATION PIECES.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE INCREASE IN THE CONSERVATION LAND WAS AT NO PART WITH ADVOCACY FROM THE COUNTY.

UH, MR. MORGAN IS QUOTED AS BEING A BIT, UH, LAMENTED ABOUT LOSING TAX REVENUE IN THAT ER TRACK.

AND THAT WAS A MIXED USE OVERLAY AT THE TIME.

BUT, UH, WE NEED TO, UM, PURSUE, UM, THAT PIECE REAL QUICK.

ESTABLISH A PROGRAMMATIC CONSERVATION APPROACH TO CONSERVATION.

CONSERVATION NEEDS TO BE BETTER REPRESENTED IN THE PLAN THAN IT IS.

THERE'S ELEMENTS TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE AN OBJECTIVE TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM OF CONSERVATION.

LAND ACQUISITION PURCHASED, A DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, THESE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, IN EFFORTS TO GET PEOPLE TO, UH, PROTECT THEIR LAND.

UM, FINALLY, I WOULD SAY THERE SHOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE IN THE PLAN TO, UM, UH, REVALIDATE ALL OF OUR ZONING CODE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS OUTDATED AND COULD USE SOME REVISION.

UH, ALL THESE ARE IN THE LETTER THAT I SENT TO, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, NOW WAYNE JURY, MR. JURY, STATE YOUR ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD.

MY NAME'S WAYNE DREWRY.

I'M AT ONE 11 CHISMAN POINT ROAD IN SEAFORD.

AND, UH, LISTENING TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE FINE LADY ABOUT YORKTOWN, UH, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I'M SEEING GOING ON AT YORKTOWN.

THE HISTORICAL VALUE IS, IS DEGRADING REALLY RAPIDLY BECAUSE OF THIS TOURISM PUSH.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR YORKTOWN.

I ALSO AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN ABOUT WE NEED MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS AND TO AT LEAST HAVE A FORUM.

THIS THING HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE, UH, 2018.

IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS.

GREAT PLAN.

THERE'S A LOT I LIKE IN IT, BUT I THINK THAT THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO AT LEAST HAVE A FORUM, A PUBLIC FORUM AFTER FIVE YEARS OF PUTTING THIS PLAN TOGETHER INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BACK TWO YEARS AGO.

SO THERE'S NOT BEEN A FORUM IN TWO YEARS.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER HAVING A FORUM FOR THE PUBLIC PEOPLE TO AT LEAST ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND HAVE COMMENTS TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE PLANNED AND PUT TOGETHER.

THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD SAY.

SO, NOT GONNA TAKE A LOT OF YOUR TIME.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD PLAN, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE CITIZENS OF YORK COUNTY SHOULD HAVE SOME PUBLIC FORUM, AND YOU GUYS SHOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS ALYSSA ADAMS. AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? UH, MY NAME IS ALYSSA ADAMS AND I LIVE AT ONE 11 SMITH STREET HERE IN YORKTOWN.

AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. PETER MAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT CITIZEN INPUT,

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UH, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE EVENING.

UM, I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT REGARDING THE PRINCESS CRUISE LINES COMING TO YORKTOWN.

I READ ON PAGE FIVE OF THE ECONOMIC, UH, REPORT THAT A PRINCESS PILOT PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL, THAT APPEAR WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM.

IT IS MY HOPE THAT IF ANY PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO ACCOMMODATE REGULAR VISITS OF 3000 PASSENGER SHIPS THAT OTHER LOCATIONS IN YORK COUNTY ALSO BE CONSIDERED.

I ALSO READ ON PAGE NINE OF THE ECONOMIC REPORT THAT THE WESTERN AND THE YORKTOWN POWER STATION, THE GOODWIN AREA, ARE CLOSING AT.

THERE IS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, INCLUDING DEEP WATER DOCKING FACILITIES.

I KNOW THIS IS A SIMPLISTIC SUGGESTION, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF THAT AREA WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A APPEAR OF THE PILOT PROGRAM PROVED SUCCESSFUL.

UH, THE PILOT PROGRAM INCLUDES FOUR TO FIVE PRINCESS SHIPS VISITING YORKTOWN IN JUNE OF 2024, THE PRINCESS, THE ISLAND PRINCESS, AND THE EMERALD PRINCESS.

MY QUESTION TO YORK COUNTY IS THAT IF PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS CREATED, WOULD OTHER LARGE CRUISE LINES BE GIVEN ACCESS TO YORKTOWN? HOW MANY CRUISE SHIPS COULD BE VISITING YORKTOWN? ANY IN ANY ONE DAY OR WEEK OR MONTH? WOULD YORKTOWN BE ENSURED THAT SOME VISITORS WOULD STAY IN YORKTOWN OR WOULD YORKTOWN BECOME A GATEWAY TO WILLIAMSBURG? KEY WEST HAS BEEN OVERRUN BY CRUISE SHIPS, AND 60% OF THE LOCAL POPULATION VOTED FOR FEWER SHIP VISITS AND CAPPING THE SIZE OF THE SHIPS AT 1200 PASSENGERS.

I UNDERSTAND TOURISM IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF RAISING MONEY FOR YORK COUNTY FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE HISTORIC CERTIFICATE OF THE HISTORICAL TRIANGLE.

HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED THAT A PERMANENT PIER OR OTHER, UH, STRUCTURES, UH, LOCATED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COLEMAN BRIDGE AT THE WATERMAN MUSEUM, WOULD BE DISRUPTED SUCH A SMALL WATERFRONT TOWN AS YORKTOWN.

THE BRIDGE IS 90 FEET TALL, THE LEVEL OF THE ROAD, THE PRINCESS ISLAND WOULD TOWER OVER THE BRIDGE BY 100 FEET AS IT IS 204 FEET TALL.

YORKTOWN'S INFRASTRUCTURE SEEMS TOO SMALL TO SUPPORT 3000 PASSENGER SHIPS COMING TO YORKTOWN WATERFRONT ON A REGULAR BASIS WITHOUT A ADVERSELY AFFECTING.

I'M JUST, AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I'M NOT REPRESENTING A GROUP ON A REGULAR BASIS WITHOUT ADVERSELY AFFECTING THE HISTORIC SUNKEN SHIPS IN THE YORK RIVER.

THE ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING THE BEACH, RIVER, AIR QUALITY BUS TRAFFIC, EGRESS BATHROOMS, TRASH MANAGEMENT, AND OVERALL QUALITY OF THE RIVERFRONT FOR VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE CONCERNED.

CITIZENS OF YORKTOWN TRADITIONALLY HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN THE PRESERVATION, PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORIC SETTING AND NATURAL BEAUTY THAT HAS BEEN TENDED TO AND DEVELOPED THOUGHTFULLY OVER THE YEARS BY VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES.

IT IS MY HOPE THAT THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO HOLD PRESSURES, WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT IS GOOD, AND THAT THEY CONTINUE TO CONCLUDE CONCERN COUNTY CITIZENS ON THESE VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS AS THEY WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE, UM, REGISTRATIONS I HAVE, BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, JUST GO AHEAD.

MY NAME IS JESSE WILLIAMS. UH, I RESIDE AT 33 28 WEST FRANKLIN IN RICHMOND.

UH, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF TWO PARCELS, UH, AROUND EXIT 2 34 ON NEWMAN ROAD AND FENTON MILL ROAD.

UM, THESE WERE PARCELS PURCHASED THE ORIGINAL PURCHASING PARTNERS, UH, ONE OF WHOM MR. CRO OVER THERE.

THE OTHER WAS MY FATHER PURCHASED THAT PARCEL IN 1974.

UH, IN THAT TIME, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN GOOD STORES OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, DONE PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS, UH, SOIL STUDIES, UH, REMEDIATION REQUIRED BY, UM, VDOT.

UM, AND WE OPPOSE THE REMOVAL OF THE MIXED USE OVERLAY, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR, UH, AREA.

IT'S ZONE LIMITED BUSINESS.

UM, THEY'VE MADE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS.

AT TIMES, THE TAXES HAVE GONE UP CONSIDERABLY WHILE STILL NOT BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT AREA.

SO WE'D LIKE TO, UM, NOT REMOVE THE MIXED USE OVERLAY JUST TO PRESERVE THE OPTIONS THEY HAVE AVAILABLE THERE ON THOSE PARCELS.

ANYTHING YOU WANT ADD MR. CROPP? A LONG TIME.

47 YEARS? WE BOTH, WOW.

THERE WERE FIVE PARTNERS ORIGINALLY AND THE ONLY ONE.

HE'S THE LAST ONE.

.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

HI, UM, MY NAME'S KURT HOVATTER.

I LIVE AT 1 0 5 DREW LANE IN SEAFORD.

UM, I THOUGHT THE PLAN WAS BASICALLY VERY GOOD, EXCEPT FOR ONE THING I DON'T THINK THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED WITH, UH, PUTTING IN EV CHARGING STATIONS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE MARKET SHOULD BE DOING.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE EV CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE PLACED AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT, UNLESS THEY'RE MAINTAINED BY TESLA, THEY'RE

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NOT BEING MAINTAINED.

SO PUTTING THESE IN, MAYBE JUST BE BROKEN IN A YEAR OR TWO.

SO I THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE MARKET PUT IN A CHARGING STATION, GET WAWA, GET THESE OTHER PLACES TO DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUR TAX DOLLARS INTO THESE CHARGING STATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? TIME ALL? OKAY.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? ANYBODY THAT'S US.

RIGHT? BE BE ADDRESSING ALL THAT IN THE WORK SESSION GROUP.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL SIT, GO TO A WORKING GROUP.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

JUST A COMMENT.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND APPRECIATE, UH, SOME OF THE KIND WORDS.

UM, I THINK AS MR. STRUBBLE STATED, AND A COUPLE OF YOU ALSO MENTIONED IT, UH, THE PLAN IS NOT PERFECT, RIGHT? WE CAN'T GET EVERYBODY'S WISHES AND DESIRES IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

CON UH, CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

UH, SO WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON, UM, MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS.

THINGS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PAST.

UH, WE DID SOLICIT, UH, INPUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS FROM EVERYONE.

I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THE PROCESS IS NOT OVER.

AND WE'LL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IDEA OF A PUBLIC FORUM TO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN, UH, WHEN THE COMMISSION, I DON'T MAKE THE DECISIONS ON MY OWN WHEN THE COMMISSION HAS THEIR WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS ALL THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE READ IN THE PLAN.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER PART OF THE PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT YOUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT, BY THE WAY.

UM, AT THE VERY END OF THE PROCESS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL CONDUCT A SIMILAR PUBLIC HEARING JUST LIKE THIS AND LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

SO, WANNA APPRECIATE EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE LONG PROCESS WAS A LOT OF YEARS, UH, UH, WORKING ON THIS.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALL, WE ARE PROUD OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN HERE.

AND, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE GET A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT EVERYBODY CAN SUPPORT.

SO, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

ONE CALL COMMENT, MR. .

I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PLAN.

I THINK, I THINK I'VE READ IT, COVERED IT BACK THREE TIMES NOW.

UM, AND CERTAINLY PARTICIPATED IN AN AWFUL LOT OF THE MEETINGS.

I HAD, UH, SEVERAL POINTS WRITTEN DOWN, BUT I'VE, BUT THEY'VE BEEN COVERED TONIGHT.

SO I HAD TRANSPORTATION, LAND USE, UH, MIXED USE OVERLAY, STS CON CONSERVATION.

ALL OF THOSE TOPICS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TONIGHT.

I THINK THE FINAL ONE IS, IS THERE A NEED FOR A PUBLIC FORUM? AND WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TONIGHT.

SO I THINK WE TAKE THAT ONE BACK TO OUR JULY 20, OUR 22ND.

22ND MEANING, AND JUNE, AND HAVE THAT JUNE 22ND.

SO THANK YOU.

I THINK YOU'VE COVERED, I THINK THE AUDIENCE HERE HAS COVERED ALL OF THE TOPICS THAT I WOULD'VE RAISED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MOVE TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

GO TO THE NEXT, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS ONE? I THINK WE JUST MOVED TO THE NEXT TONIGHT.

YEAH, I MEAN, WE, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'LL DISCUSS THE COMMENTS AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS AT THE JUNE, UH, 22ND, 22ND WORK SESSION.

UH, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC, IN ADDITION TO WHAT CAME OUT OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR TOPICS YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT DISCUSSION THURSDAY, UH, YOU COULD, UH, EMAIL THOSE TO ME SO WE COULD AT LEAST COME UP WITH OKAY.

SURE.

SOME SORT OF A FRAMEWORK FOR THE DISCUSSION, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE,

[Application No. UP-1010-23, Erik D. Olson: Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant toSection 24.1-283(b)(1) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, to authorize the rental of a room fornon-transient use as a home occupation on a 1.0-acre parcel (GPIN T08c-1294-2286) located at1100 Seaford Road (Route 622). The property is zoned RR (Rural Residential) and is designated Low Density Residential in the Comprehensive Plan. Staff report and attachments . For moreinformation contact: Earl W. Anderson, AICP, Senior Planner . THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL.]

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE THE RENTAL OF A SINGLE ROOM FOR UP TO TWO ADULTS AND ONE CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF 10 FOR NON-TRANSIENT USE, WHICH IS MORE THAN 90 DAYS AS A HOME OCCUPATION AND AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME LOCATED AT 1100 SEAFORD ROAD.

SO PURSUANT TO SECTION, UH, 24.1 DASH 2 83 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE RENTAL OF ROOMS FOR NON-TRANSIENT USE IS CONSIDERED TO BE A HOME OCCUPATION WITH ON-PREMISES CUSTOMER CLIENT CONTACT AND REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THE ONE ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CHISMAN WOODS SUBDIVISION ACROSS FROM SEAFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ZONED RR FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL SHOWN IN BROWN ON THIS MAP.

UH, AND THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ZONED RR AND RC FOR RESOURCE CONSERVATION SHOWN IN GREEN HERE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BORDERS, THREE SINGLE FAMILY

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DETACHED HOMES AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SO THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN SEAFORD ROAD, UH, FROM THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY.

AND THIS IS LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST AT SEAFORD ELEMENTARY.

SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE DEFINES TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY AS THE OCCUPANCY OF AN ACCOMMODATION FOR LESS THAN 90 CONTINUOUS DAYS BY A VISITOR.

THUS, ANY STAY THAT IS LONGER THAN 90, UH, 90 DAYS WOULD BE CONSIDERED NON-TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES LENGTHS OF STAY RANGING FROM A MINIMUM OF 90 DAYS TO NO MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS, UH, AFTER 90 DAYS, UM, RENTALS WOULD BE ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL ALSO STATES THAT THE OWNER WILL RESIDE IN THE HOME AND THUS WILL BE ABLE TO PROMPTLY RESPOND TO AND RESOLVE PROBLEMS OR COMPLAINTS THAT MAY ARISE WHILE RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE.

THE APPROXIMATELY 3,147 SQUARE FOOT HOME HAS AN OFFICE, A KITCHEN, TWO LIVING ROOMS, TWO DINING ROOMS, TWO BONUS ROOMS, FOUR BEDROOMS, THREE AND A HALF BATHROOMS, A LOFT, AND A TWO CAR GARAGE.

THE PROPOSED SPACE FOR RENT A BEDROOM AND BATHROOM IS, UH, 416 SQUARE FEET.

THE HOME OCCUPATION OR HOME OCCUPATIONS ARE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 400 SQUARE FEET OR 25% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF A RESIDENCE, WHICHEVER IS LESS, UNLESS A GREATER AREA IS AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AS I SAID, THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY 3,147 SQUARE FEET, AND THE PROPOSED SPACE FOR RENT IS APPROXIMATELY 416 SQUARE FEET.

THE PROPOSED SPACE IS ONLY SLIGHTLY OVER THE 400 SQUARE FOOT STANDARD, AND AT ONLY 13.2% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE HOME IS WELL BELOW THE 25% STANDARD.

AS WITH OTHER HOME OCCUPATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE ON SITE.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO PARKING SPACES FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

AND SINCE THE PROPOSED USE WOULD ALLOW UP TO TWO ADULTS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES BE REQUIRED, UH, FOR THE RENTER OR RENTERS.

THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE FOUR PARKING SPACES WITH ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR OTHER CARS IF NEEDED.

ACCORDING TO THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL, A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING GENERATES AN AVERAGE OF 9.4 TRIPS PER DAY.

THOUGH NO TRIP GENERATION ESTIMATES ARE AVAILABLE FOR NON-TRANSIENT RENTAL OF ROOMS. STAFF ESTIMATES THAT THE PROPOSAL WILL USE, UH, THE PROPOSED USE WILL ADD ABOUT FOUR TO SIX ADDITIONAL TRIPS TO THE AVERAGE GENERATED BY A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

ACCORDING TO 2021 VDOT ESTIMATES, THIS SECTION OF SEAFORD ROAD CARRIES APPROXIMATELY 5,700 VEHICLES PER DAY.

THUS, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THE TRIPS GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED HOME OCCUPATION WOULD HAVE A NOTICEABLE IMPACT ON SEAFORD ROAD.

ALTHOUGH SPECIAL USE PERMITS NORMALLY RUN WITH THE LAND AND NOT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONDITION THAT WOULD CAUSE THE USE PERMIT TO TERMINATE UPON THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP BY THE APPLICANT.

AT THE REQUEST OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY STAFF HAS PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE EXTERIOR COOKING APPLIANCES USED BY RENTERS TO BE FUELED BY PROPANE OR NATURAL GAS OUTSIDE FIRE PITS TO BE LIT, SUPERVISED, AND EXTINGUISHED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROHIBIT THE USE OF COAL UH, CHARCOAL.

THE VIRGINIA RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO OBTAIN A NEW CER CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND COMPLY WITH FURTHER, UH, SAFETY MEASURES, SUCH AS MAINTAINING MEANS OF EGRESS AND PROVIDING SMOKE DETECTORS IN EACH SLEEPING ROOM AND IMMEDIATELY OUTSIDE SEPARATE SLEEPING AREAS.

SO, GIVEN THE RELATIVELY SMALL SCALE OF THE ROOM FOR RENT IN RELATION TO THE HOME AND THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PRESENCE ON SITE, STAFF BELIEVES THE PROPOSED RENTAL OF A ROOM FOR NON-TRANSIENT USE IS NOT LIKELY TO HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEARBY PROPERTIES OR IN THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 23 DASH 12.

THANK YOU.

THE, UM, APPLICANTS ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO AS WELL.

GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA OPEN ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

AND AGAIN, I AM STACKED APPLICANT FIRST.

OH, OUR APPLICANT.

I'M SORRY.

WHERE'S OUR APPLICANT? I'M, UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK I HAD 10 MINUTES, BUT, UH, I DON'T

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PLAN ON TALKING VERY LONG.

UH, CAUSE THE, UH, APPLICATION IS PRETTY SIMPLE AND, UH, OUR PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS, IS, UH, FAIRLY MODEST.

UM, UM, SO, UH, AS WAS JUST, UH, OUTLINED, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING RENTING, UH, ONE ROOM IN OUR HOUSE.

UM, OUR, UH, THE, THE REST OF THE HOUSE IS OCCUPIED BY MY FAMILY.

I LIVE IN THE HOUSE.

MY WIFE, OUR SMALL, SMALL CHILD.

OUR, UH, UH, ADULT DAUGHTER ALL LIVE IN THE HOUSE.

UM, AND WE'RE NOT, UH, MOVING OUT.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON GOING ANYWHERE.

WE JUST, WE HAVE, UH, ONE ROOM THAT'S, UH, BEING UNUSED, UH, BECAUSE OUR ADULT SON MOVED DOWN.

IT'S A ROOM, UH, WHICH IS A, UH, UM, A DOWNSTAIRS MASTER.

SO IT'S A, UM, IT'S, IT'S A BEDROOM WITH, WITH EN SUITE, UH, BATHROOMS. SO IT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR USE BY, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BEDROOM AND, AND BATHROOM IN THERE.

UM, OUR, UH, OUR PLAN FOR, UH, RENTING THE ROOM IS TO TARGET, UM, UH, UH, WEBS TO ADVERTISE ON WEBSITES WHICH ARE GEARED TOWARD, UH, PROFESSIONALS, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, TRAVELING NURSES, UM, TRAVELING NURSES, UH, UH, TAKE CONTRACTS IN THE AREA OF THREE MONTHS OR MORE.

UM, THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS.

THEY HAVE GOOD JOBS.

THEY ARE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, I'M BRINGING 'EM INTO THE COMMUNITY TO, TO SERVE, SERVE A NEED IN, IN UNDERSTAFFED LOCAL HOSPITALS.

AND, UM, UH, ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IS THEY ALREADY HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS, SO WE WOULD EXPECT A TRAVELING NURSE TO, TO, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, BE SOMEBODY THAT, THAT, UH, UM, IS PROFESSIONAL AND CAN BE TRUSTED.

UM, THE, UH, UM, UH, OUR, UH, OUR DRIVEWAY, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE ABLE TO PARK SEVEN CARS IN OUR DRIVEWAY, NOT INCLUDING, UH, ADDITIONAL TWO SPOTS WITHIN THE GARAGE.

UH, WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE FOUR, FOUR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, SO THERE'D BE NO PROBLEM ACCOMMODATING ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, VEHICLES.

UH, WE THINK THAT NORMALLY, UH, IT WOULD BE ONE PERSON, ONE, ONE TRAVELING NURSE, UH, WHO'S COMING TO THE AREA, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE A COUPLE AND MAYBE A SMALL CHILD.

WE PUT A LIMIT ON TO MAKE SURE IT'S A, A SMALL CHILD.

UH, EVEN THOUGH THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS LARGE ENOUGH REALLY TO, TO FIT THREE PEOPLE IN.

UM, SO, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM.

PARKING CARS, UH, PEOPLE CAN, UH, UH, COME AND GO, UH, AROUND THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE USING THE DECK SO THEY'RE NOT, UH, COMING THROUGH OUR HOUSE ALL THE TIME.

UM, BUT, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE HOME ALL THE, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.

ONE OF US IS HOME.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT WORK SCHEDULES.

I WORK AT HOME, UH, UH, THREE DAYS A WEEK.

UH, SO I'M HOME FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

UH, MY WIFE IS HOME A LOT WITH OUR CHILD AND, AND, UH, AND OUR ADULT DAUGHTER WHO WORKS ALSO, UH, HAS A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE.

SO PRETTY MUCH SOMEBODY IS HOME ALL THE TIME.

SO WE ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN, IN THE HOUSE.

IT WOULDN'T BE SOMEBODY HAVING THE RUN OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT US THERE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE YARD OR, OR SO FORTH.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH, UH, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.

SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM.

JOHN, HOW LONG IS THE TERM? DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT ON THAT TERM? 30 DAYS, 90 DAYS? UH, IT WOULD BE, UH, A MINIMUM OF 90 DAYS.

SO, UH, SO YEAH, SO WHOEVER, WHOEVER WANTS TO RENT THE ROOM WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE AT LEAST 90 DAYS.

WE HAVEN'T SET A MAXIMUM, UH, TERM ON IT, BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE A MONTH TO MONTH BEYOND 90 DAYS.

OKAY.

I DO HAVE A COMMENT JUST JUST TO COMMENT.

UH, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE PLACE, YOUR PLACE I DROVE BY TWICE.

CAUSE THE DRIVEWAY IS A LITTLE BIT HIDDEN.

MM-HMM.

, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PRIVACY THERE, BUT YOU MIGHT, WHEN I ACTUALLY DROVE ONTO TO YOUR PROPERTY AND THEN I TURNED AROUND AND COME BACK OUT AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD GOING IN.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD COMING OUT.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING OR TRIM BACK SOME OF THOSE BUSHES BY THE ROAD.

MM.

JUST AS A COMMENT, YEAH.

THAT IT, IT IS HARD TO SEE COMING OUT SOMETIMES WHEN THE BUSHES GROW UP.

YEAH.

JUST A SMALL COMMENT MYSELF.

SO YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE OF 16 SQUARE, SQUARE FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? NO.

IF IT WAS 400 OR UNDER YOU, YOU WOULDN'T NEED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPROVAL.

IS THAT WHAT STAFF SAID IN THE PRESENTATION, MR. CROSS? NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

ANY LONG-TERM RENTAL OF ROOMS IN A HOUSE HAS TO BE, UH, APPROVED BY THE BOARD AS A HOME OCCUPATION, REGARDLESS

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OF THE SQUARE FEET, REGARDLESS OF THE 16 SQUARE FEET.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

REGARDLESS, EVEN JUST ONE ROOM RENTING OUT THAT WE HAD TO, UH, APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

AND I, I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, I KNOW, UH, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, UH, WROTE A LETTER OPPOSING THE, UH, PETITION.

UM, I, I THINK HE MISUNDERSTOOD, UH, WHAT THE, UH, APPLICATION WAS FOR.

UH, HE WAS ARGUING THAT THAT, UH, UM, THAT IT WOULD HURT, UH, HURT, UM, PROPERTY VALUES TO HAVE A, UH, UM, MULTI-USE, MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL UNIT IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED IN WITH, UH, UH, OWNER-OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

BUT OUR, OUR HOUSE IS A OWNER-OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

IT IS NOW, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE ALL IT IS, IS WE'RE GONNA BE RENTING OUT ONE ROOM TO AN INDIVIDUAL OR, OR A, OR MAYBE A COUPLE, UH, AT MOST, UH, A COUPLE AND A SMALL CHILD AND NOT MOVING OUT.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE, UH, OWNER-OCCUPIED, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITHIN THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

ANYONE? YEAH.

QUICK QUESTION.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THIS PROPERTY? UH, FOR 10 YEARS.

10 YEARS? YEAH.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

PROCEED.

THANK, ALL RIGHT.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE PUBLIC FORUM AND OUR FIRST, UM, SPEAKER ERIC OLSON.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS ME.

OH MY GOSH.

OKAY.

AND ERIN, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, SARAH, THAT WOULD BE YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING.

YOU PRETTY MUCH AWESOME.

OH, ACTUALLY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

HI, I'M SARAH OLSON.

SAME ADDRESS, 1100 SEAFORD ROAD.

UM, ABOUT THE BUSHES, I JUST, I I TRIMM THE BUSHES, BUT THE THING IS WITH THE BUSHES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE TRIMMED BETWEEN LIKE RIGHT NOW AND JULY 15TH, CUZ YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THEY BLOOM BEFORE YOU CAN TRIM THOSE ONES.

AND THEY JUST FINISHED IN MAY.

SO, SO, UM, IT'LL GET DONE, I PROMISE.

IT HAS TO GET DONE BY JULY 15TH.

THIS IS A COMMENT THAT I, THAT I'M GOING IN AND OUT.

I SAID, WOW, THIS IS KIND OF, YEAH, IT'S REALLY HIDDEN BACK THERE.

THERE IS ACTUALLY A TURNAROUND, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, WE ALL HAVE A SCHEDULE OF HOW WE PARK AND HOW WE TURN AROUND.

BUT, BUT FOR NEW PEOPLE THAT COME IN, IT'S ALWAYS BAFFLING CUZ THAT THAT TURNAROUND'S VERY INVISIBLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY.

UM, HOW ABOUT KURT HAVA? YEAH.

DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? NO, BUT NOT MANY PEOPLE DO.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

STATE YOUR NAME.

YEAH, MY NAME'S KURT HOVATTER.

I LIVE AT 1 0 5 DREW LANE.

I LIVE AROUND THE CORNER.

UM, MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE COUNTY ALMOST, UH, OR AT LEAST IN SEAFORD, ALMOST 30 YEARS.

AND WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE WE WANTED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, THE, UH, RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WE OWN AN ACRE, A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT.

UH, AND WE JUST FEEL, UM, FOR MANY REASONS.

AND ONE OF 'EM IS PROPERTY VALUES, THAT IF YOU START DOING THIS, YOU'LL, YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THERE'S OTHER HOUSES DOING THIS.

SO THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED INTO 30 YEARS AGO AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.

UM, SO, UH, I AM AGAINST THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT, NEXT I HAVE LISA.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT AGAIN SO I DON'T HAVE TO MASSACRE IT TWICE.

WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? LISA HOVATTER.

UH, I ALSO LIVE AT 1 0 5 DREWBY ROAD, UH, DREWBY LANE.

SORRY.

THANK YOU, UM, FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

UM, YES, AS MY HUSBAND SAID, WE, WE MOVED HERE IN 1994.

UM, WE ESPECIALLY LOVED SEAFORD.

UM, AND, UM, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HE SAID, UM, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO REMAIN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND, UM, THIS COULD SET A PRECEDENT, AND I KNOW THESE HAVE TO BE APPROVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT, UM, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD CONTINUE AND, UM, UH, TRAVELING NURSE SOUNDS LIKE A NICE PERSON, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S WHO'S GONNA RENT.

THAT MIGHT BE WHO THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

WE'VE OWNED RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE PAST AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET EXACTLY WHO YOU WANT.

SO, UM, I'M ALSO AGAINST THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY, MR. DRU.

WAYNE

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DRU.

OKAY, GREAT.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

SO IT'S BACK NUMBER TWO.

SO I, UH, I'M AT ONE 11 CHISMAN POINT ROAD, SEAFORD.

I AM HERE REPRESENTING MY MOM AND DAD BACK HERE.

HE'S 91 YEARS OLD KOREAN VET.

AND, UH, HE AND I DEVELOPED THIS PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, EIGHT ACRES BACK IN THE EARLY 1990S.

AND WE DID IT UNDER THE ZONING THAT WAS PERMITTED AND THAT WAS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO, UM, FOR US, UH, FOR MY PARENTS, THEY DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE, EVEN IF IT'S NON-TRANSIENT, PEOPLE COMING IN TO RENT A PLACE NEXT DOOR AND THE PROPERTY VALUES COULD GO DOWN BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE HEAR THERE'S RENTERS NEXT DOOR, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN.

SO WE'VE LIVED HERE IN SEAFORD FOR 55 YEARS AND WE'VE MADE IT OUR HOME.

AND THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR FAMILY AND FOR THE KIDS AND GRANDKIDS.

I THINK WE'RE, UH, BASICALLY OPENING UP A BOARDING HOUSE.

AND, UH, I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT COULD BE A NURSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WHO'S GONNA POLICE THAT? WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE THAT? YOU GUYS ARE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

BOARD SUPERVISORS ARE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT GONNA COME TO THE HOUSE UNLESS THERE'S A PROBLEM.

AND MY ISSUE IS, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE I HAVE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION, IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

NOW, WE ALL DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT THERE WILL BE SOME SEXUAL PREDATOR THAT WOULD WEASEL THEIR WAY IN TO A PLACE LIKE THIS IF THIS WAS SOMEWHERE OFF THE BEATEN PATH MAYBE.

BUT TO BE IN FRONT OF OUR ELEMENTARY KIDS, THAT TO ME IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

NOT TO SAY THAT THIS FINE COUPLE WOULDN'T POLICE THAT, BUT I'M SAYING FOR YOU GUYS TO APPROVE IT, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S BEING POLICED AND IT'S BEING ENFORCED.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

IT WON'T HAPPEN FROM YOU CUZ I KNOW THE COUNTY VERY WELL.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SO ANYWAY, UM, SO I WOULD, I I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SETTING THIS PRECEDENT.

UM, I THINK IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T DO US GOOD IN, IN OUR COUNTY.

SO, UH, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE, WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WOULD ASK YOU TO REJECT THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY, MR. BARNES.

BRAD BARNES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BRAD BARNES.

I LIVE AT 1 0 3 DREARY LANE.

I'M HERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND MY WIFE STEPHANIE.

I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE APPLICATION SEEKING THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ROOM RENTALS AT 1100 SEAFORD ROAD.

THE RESIDENTS OF DREARY LANE, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE FIRMLY AGAINST AN ESTABLISHMENT OF A BOARDING HOUSE, SO NEAR OUR STREET, OUR SCHOOL, AND OUR COMMUNITY.

CONCERNING THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES, I BELIEVE THAT MANY OF YOU SHARE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING A BOARDING HOUSE IN SUCH PROXIMITY, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THE POTENTIAL OCCUPANTS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MAY RESIDE.

THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT CAUSE FOR WORRY.

THUS, I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND ADDRESSING THIS MATTER.

ALLOW ME TO OUTLINE A FEW REASONS WHY THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF A BOARDING HOUSE NEAR OUR SCHOOL RAISES CONCERNS.

FIRSTLY, THE SAFETY OF OUR CHARTER IS PARAMOUNT.

SCHOOLS SHOULD BE SECURE.

ENVIRONMENTS IN THE PRESENCE OF BOARDING HOUSE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY INTRODUCES UNKNOWN INDIVIDUALS INTO OUR IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING.

THIS RAISES LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR STUDENTS.

SECONDLY, REGARDING STRANGER DANGER WITH THE BOARDING HOUSE, IT BECOMES CHALLENGING TO DETERMINE WHO WILL BE RENTING THE HOUSE AND WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SCREENING PROCESSES WILL BE IN PLACE.

THE LACK OF INFORMATION CAN BE WORRISOME, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE WELLBEING OF YOUNG CHILDREN WHO ATTEND SCHOOL NEARBY AND PLAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIRDLY, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BOARDING HOUSE HAS POTENTIAL TO DISRUPT THE FABRIC FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

INCREASED TRAFFIC ON SEAFORD ROAD, WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS AND OVER DRIVEN AND SPEEDINGS HAPPENS CONSISTENTLY.

NOISE TRANSIENT NATURE OF A BURSTING BOARDING HOUSE RESIDENTS CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE, THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY WE HAVE BUILT OVER THE YEARS.

MOREOVER, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS, THE STRAIN, THE, THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA AREA, INCLUDING PARKING, UTILITY, AND PUBLIC SERVICES AT INCREASED PRESSURE TO THE CHALLENGES IN CONGESTION ALREADY ON SEA FOR DRUG.

LASTLY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER PROPERTY VALUES.

THE PRESENCE OF BOARDING HOUSE MAY ATTRACT, MAY BE UNATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIAL BUYERS AND RENTERS AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY AND THE DESIRABLE OVERALL IMPACT OF OUR PROPERTY HA PRICES, WHICH IN TURN MAY AFFECT OUR INVESTMENTS AND OUR FINANCIAL WELLBEING.

AND WE ALSO SAW EARLIER THAT SEA R'S NOT ZONE FOR MULTI-HOUSING, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING OR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING WAS JUST STARTS TO ALLUDE TO.

SO WE'D LIKE TO REMAIN VI VIGILANT AND PROACTIVELY AND SAFEGUARDING OUR BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY BY JOINING FORCES AND VOICING OUR CONCERNS.

WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ENSURE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

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AND JURY LAND REMAINS A SAFE, THRIVING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, BUT I THINK THE FINAL THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS NOT ALIGNED WITH ANY OF THE STRATEGIES, THE EIGHT THAT MR CROSSED OUTLINED OR MOVING FORWARD INTO THE 2040 PLAN.

AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS YES, WHY THEY RESIDE THERE.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN ISSUES WITH DOGS ESCAPING FROM THE FENCE, PIT BULLS ATTACKING PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANY OF THIS WOULD CONTINUE, EVEN IF THERE ARE RESIDENTS AT THE HOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MR. BARNES.

OKAY, BARBARA CARLSON.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BARBARA CARLSON.

I LIVE AT ZERO TWO LANE.

PULL THAT A LITTLE CLOSER, JUST SPEAK UP A TINY BIT, MAYBE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME BARBARA CARLSON.

I LIVE AT 1 0 2 JURY LANE.

I'M HERE IN A MATTER OF MR. OLSON'S REQUEST.

UH, WE'VE LIVED IN SEAFORD FOR 17 YEARS NOW.

THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE SEAFORD, BECAUSE IT'S A SAFE COMMUNITY, UH, A GOOD PLACE TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY AND HOME AND BRACE YOUR CHILDREN.

I FEEL ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE SEAFORD IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE LOT OF THE LOWER INCOMES AND THE RENTALS.

THOSE USUALLY BRING, UH, CRIME INTO YOUR AREA AND THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE CHOSE SEAFORD WITH MY CONCERNS.

NO BACKGROUND CHECKS BEING DONE.

YES, THE NURSE WOULD BE A PERFECT SCENARIO, BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEES.

AND AS WE HAVE SHARED, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES, IT DOES RAISE CONCERN AND WE WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER NOT ALLOWING THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN YOUR COUNTY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UM, NOW I HAVE ERIC CARLSON.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M ERIC CARLSON.

I LIVE AT 1 0 2 DREW LANE AND SEAFORD.

AND, UH, I'M THE ONE WHO WROTE THE LETTER OF MY PROPERTY DIRECTLY, UH, BORDERS THEIRS.

AND, UH, IT IS MY WIFE SAID, THIS IS WHY WE MOVED HERE.

AFTER 22 YEARS OF NAVAL SERVICE, I RETIRED, I CAME FROM DENBY.

THIS IS WHAT THEY DO AT NEWPORT NEWS AND MR. CROSS.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID THAT, THAT THAT'S WHY WE SEEK TO COME HERE BECAUSE IT'S RURAL RESIDENTIAL, IT'S SINGLE FAMILIES.

WE RAISED OUR CHILDREN.

MY CHILDREN WENT TO RICH NECK ELEMENTARY.

THERE WAS A PROBLEM THERE 17 YEARS AGO, IT JUST MANIFESTED RECENTLY.

GOT THE BEST SCHOOLS HERE AND I QUOTED MANY ONLINE STUDIES THAT REVEALED THAT THE MINUTE THIS STARTS, OUR PROPERTY VALUES BEGIN TO GO DOWN AND CRIME RATES GO UP.

NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE MANY OF THE OVERLAYS FOR YORK COUNTY CRIME, WE LIVE IN THE SAFEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COUNTY.

BUT YOU START LOOKING WHERE THE HIGHEST CRIME RATES ARE.

THEY'RE IN THE 17 CORRIDOR GRAFTED APARTMENTS, GO SOUTH THROUGH FOUR SEASONS APARTMENTS, AND IT GOES OFF THE CHARTS FOR CRIME RATES.

SO CLEARLY THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN CRIME RATES, PROPERTY VALUES, AND SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS RENTAL UNITS.

AND WE'RE ALSO KIND OF DOING A WORDPLAY HERE.

UH, 90 DAYS SEEMS TO BE THE MARK FOR TRANSIENT EVERY SIX MONTHS SOMEONE KNEW.

TO ME THAT'S TRANSIENT.

IF THIS WAS A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE OR SOMETHING.

IN FACT, UH, WAYNE DREWER USED TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND 1 0 3 AND HE PUT UP A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH AN OFFICE ON TOP AND HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO PUT A SHOWER IN THERE, ONLY A RESTROOM AND A, AND A SINK, JUST SO THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

SO WE, WE'VE BEEN DILIGENT ABOUT THIS IN THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME AND, AND WE'RE SETTING A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENCE BECAUSE ONCE THIS STARTS, WHAT'S NEXT? TAB RUNNING, MAN, I, YOU KNOW, NOBODY DREAMS OF MOVING NEXT DOOR TO A RENTAL PROPERTY.

NOBODY, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT FROM ANYBODY SAYING, I'D LIKE TO FIND A NICE HOUSE NEXT TO SOME RENTAL PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THIS WILL BE POSTED AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA BUY OUR HOMES, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THIS, THAT IT'S NEXT DOOR TO A RENTAL PROPERTY AND IT WILL IN FACT DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH, UH, IS MY NEIGHBOR JUST SAID, UH, IS ALSO OUR INVESTMENTS.

AND, UH, IT'S A SAFE, SECURE PLACE TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY.

AND, UH, WE WANT TO SEE IT MAINTAINED IN THAT SAME ATMOSPHERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. CARLSON.

I HAVE DARNELL BLACKWELL.

JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND, ALRIGHT.

UH, MY NAME IS DARNELL BLACKWELL.

I LIVE 1106 SEAFORD ROAD.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

UH, I WAS BORN IN HAMPTON.

UH, MY FOLKS WERE IN THE MILITARY.

I MOVED AROUND THE NATION WITH THEM.

WE STILL HAVE PROPERTY IN HAMPTON, SO I HAD A CHOICE OF WHERE TO LIVE.

WE CHOSE SEAFORD BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE.

UH, I'M AGAINST ANY KIND OF RENTAL PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I MOVED HERE, WE'D HAD APPREHENSIONS ABOUT LIVING HERE BECAUSE OF RUMORS AND PROBLEMS

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WITH PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, LIVING TOGETHER.

WE'VE BEEN EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE MOVED HERE FROM NEW YORK.

I'M A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.

I WAS A DETECTIVE IN NEW YORK FOR 25 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN A LOT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT DOOR.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ON THE COMMISSION HAVE, UH, YOUR THING IS TO GET THE MONEY TO RUN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN YOU, THE FEES FOR THE, FOR THE PERMITS, THE TAXES THAT IT GENERATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT, IT LOOKS GREAT.

BUT ONCE YOU OPEN THAT DOOR, THERE ARE GONNA BE OTHER PEOPLE WANTING TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND MAKE MONEY.

WE DON'T NEED THIS.

DR.

CUFF AND HIS PEOPLE WERE JUST SAYING THEY HAVE PROPERTY, ALL KINDS OF RENTAL THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, TRANSITS FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PROFESSIONALS ARE GONNA MOVE IN THERE.

AS WAYNE SAID, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM A GRADE SCHOOL.

DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST FOR YOU TO REALIZE THAT A PREDATOR DOESN'T ISN'T GOING TO COME FORWARD AND SAY, WELL, I SHOULD, I'M A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER.

I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW I'M LIVING HERE.

HE'S GONNA ZERO IN ON A PLACE LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S PRIME HUNTING GROUND.

YOU GOT GOOD PEOPLE HERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.

WELL, THE FEW PENNIES THAT YOU WERE GONNA THROW AWAY, IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

THE ONLY BED IN THE 30 SOME YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE ONLY BAD INTERACTION I'VE HAD WITH ANYBODY HAS BEEN WITH BEING ATTACKED IN MY YARD BY THEIR DOG.

I HAD TO SHOOT THE DOG WITH THE SHERIFF'S.

I CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THEY MALIGNED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR TAKING, NOT TAKING MY SIDE FOR EN ENFORCING THE LAW AS IT SHOULD BE.

ALL RIGHT.

I KNOW I'M OUTTA TIME, BUT, AND I'M NOT AS ELOQUENT AS SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, BUT I WORKED TWO FULL-TIME JOBS FOR 25 YEARS IN NEW YORK TO BUY THIS HOUSE IN SEAFORD.

NOBODY GAVE ME ANYTHING.

I NEED A BOARDING HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO ME LIKE I NEED A HOLE IN THE HEAD.

.

NO.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT? GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND THE LAST PERSON I HAVE A SLIP FOR, LOOKS LIKE MARTY BORGES.

JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

I'M MARTY BORGES.

I LIVE AT 1 0 7 JURY LANE WITH MY HUSBAND SCOTT.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD AS BEING AS OBJECTING TO THE OLSEN'S BEING ALLOWED TO RENT, UM, ONE OF THEIR BEDROOMS. YEAH.

COULD YOU LIKE TALK IN THE MICROPHONE OR SPEAK UP OR, UM, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

THAT'S BETTER.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF STATING THE REASONS WHY WE OBJECT.

THEY'VE BEEN REPEATED MANY TIMES, SO I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT THEM AS WELL.

I SIMPLY WANNA GO ON A RECORD AS WE'RE OBJECTING TO THE RENTAL OF ONE OF THEIR BEDROOMS FOR MANY OF THE REASONS ALREADY STATED BY MY NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT HASN'T FILLED OUT A SLIP? NOPE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? OKAY.

MR. KING? YES.

UH, PETERMAN, PETER PETERMAN, .

MR. PETERMAN, I, I HAVE, UH, AN ACQUAINTANCE WHO, UH, RENTS, UH, LONG-TERM RENTAL ROOMS, UH, TO, UH, MILITARY.

UM, MILITARY WORKS VERY GOOD BECAUSE, UH, YOU HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, SO, UM, HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS, NO PROBLEM, UH, AT ALL.

UH, AND ACTUALLY RENTS TWO ROOMS IN HIS HOUSE.

UM, THE, THE PROBLEM I SEE HERE IS, UH, THE, THE, UM, NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST THIS.

UM, THEY FEEL A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE.

UH, THEY WANT TO KNOW EVERYONE THAT IS THERE.

THEY DO NOW.

UH, AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT DISTURBED.

UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, EVEN WITH MY EXPERIENCE OF HAVING FOLKS,

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UH, DOING LONG-TERM RENTAL, BUT IT WAS MILITARY AND YOU DO HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS THERE.

UM, I I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS, UH, APPLICATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. KREIDER, UH, IN, IN A SIMILAR FASHION, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I FIRST READ THIS, I WAS MORE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO ALL THE SURROUNDING PEOPLE, NO ONE IN SUPPORT AND EVERYONE IN OBJECTION, UH, YOU WERE HEARD AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT.

OKAY, SIR.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON WHY WE, THESE THINGS ARE A CASE BY CASE BASIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.

UM, I TOO, UM, LIKE MR. REINER INITIALLY LOOKED AT IT AND THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE AN ACCEPTABLE PLACE, BUT ONE OF THE CRITERIA I ALWAYS USE IS I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AT ALL.

OFTENTIMES WE DO GET A NEIGHBOR OR TWO AND, AND SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

UM, AND IT'S VERY TOUGH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL IF EVERYBODY AROUND YOU THAT LIVES THERE IS AGAINST IT.

UM, SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU MADAM.

SURE.

AND I, WHEN I LOOK AT THESE, I ALWAYS BALANCE THE PROPERTY OWNER, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS AGAINST THE COMMUNITY RIGHTS.

AND YOU GOTTA BOUNCE THOSE BACK AND FORTH AND TAKE THE COMMUNITY A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUTS.

BUT PART OF ME ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT OR THINKS ABOUT, ONE IS A HOME BASED BUSINESS, WHICH IS A GOAL IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 2040.

SO THAT WOULD CHECK THAT OFF.

THE OTHER THING IS ALL TALK ABOUT RENTALS.

IF THEY WERE RENTING THE WHOLE HOUSE FOR 90 DAYS OR LONGER, THE WHOLE HOUSE, IT WOULD BE BY, RIGHT? WE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS COMMITTEE MEETING HERE.

IT WOULDN'T COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

IT WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

THEY COULD RENT IT.

NOT A THING COULD BE DONE ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT BE BACKGROUND CHECKS OR NOT.

SO I THINK ABOUT THAT OFTEN BECAUSE IT'S A MY RIGHT THING AND I USUALLY, I COME DOWN ON THE INDIVIDUAL, THE PROPERTY RIGHT OWNERS IF I CAN.

AND I THINK I CAN ON THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S COMMUNITY AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

REPEAT? YES, I GO.

COUPLE THINGS ACTUALLY.

THERE, THERE'S, THERE SEEMS TO BE EITHER A MISINTERPRETATION OR, OR MISUSE OF TERMS. I THINK, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A ZONING CHANGE TO MULTIFAMILY VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

UM, THE PERMIT IS TO RENT A ROOM, NOT ROOMS, JUST A SINGLE ROOM.

UH, IT'S NOT A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL.

IT IS A SINGLE ROOM.

IT'S BASICALLY THEY'RE REPLACING AN ADULT CHILD WITH ANOTHER ADULT IN THE SAME ROOM.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S A ZERO BALANCE CHANGE TO THE, THE OCCUPANCY OF THE HOUSE.

UH, THEY'VE STATED THEY, THEY'LL HAVE A VETTING PROCESS.

UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD SET A PRECEDENT.

I MEAN, THERE AGAIN, THEY'RE RENTING A ROOM DOWN A HOME.

UH, THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE.

PERHAPS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND, UH, THE PERMIT THAT MAY REQUIRE A BACK NOTE CHECK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PERMITTED, UH, MAYBE BY A THIRD PARTY, IF THAT WOULD HELP.

UM, A A AGAIN, I, THE, THE PIT BULL THING, I MEAN, WE, WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, I STRUGGLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RESIDENTS THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING EVERYONE TO DO.

ALTERNATIVELY, YOU HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST IT.

UM, AND, AND AS OUR FEDERAL COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, AND THAT THAT HAS TO BE PART OF OUR DECISION PROCESS.

I, I ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS THE EMAIL THAT CAME OUT, UH, REGARDING THE FSU STUDY, THE FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSAL STUDY.

THAT, THAT TALKED ABOUT FACTUAL BASED IMPACTS ON PROPERTY VALUES.

UH, I, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT STUDY WAS BASED ON RESIDENTS AND POPULATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO AND BOSTON AND MIAMI, UH, POPULATIONS BETWEEN A HALF 1,000,007 AND A HALF MILLION IN URBAN CRIME RATE AREAS, UH, JUST STRUGGLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS.

SO I HAVE A HARD TIME APPLYING THAT LOGIC OR UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS THAT, THAT COULD HAVE BASED UPON THAT STUDY.

UM, THAT SAID, UM, AS THEY NOTED, EVERY APPLICATION IS UNIQUE AND WE'RE CHARTERED TO DO THREE MAJOR ISSUES ON OUR COMMISSION.

THAT IS GENERALLY UTMOST IMPORTANCE OF IMPORTANCE TO US IS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS, UM, OF THE COUNTY AND THE RIGHTS OF, OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

I WILL THERE

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BE AN IMPACT ON THE ROADS OR UTILITIES OR SCHOOLS OR OTHER SERVICES? I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT.

UH, IS THE PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? UM, NO.

IT, BUT IT'S ZONE RESIDENTIAL.

IT REMAINS ZONE RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S NOT A CHANGE THERE.

UM, IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT? UM, THE RESIDENTS DO NOT FEEL SO, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SINGLE ROOM.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRE PROPERTY RENTAL.

UH, SO I STRUGGLE WITH THOSE POINTS, I GUESS, OR, OR ISSUES, IF YOU WILL.

UM, THE CITIZEN IS FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THEY'RE MAKING A PERMIT.

IT'S SOMETHING AND IS THEIR RIGHT, UH, TO DO, WHICH IS WHY IT'S BROUGHT TO US.

I, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCOME TO THE COUNTY THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT OUR PURPOSE HERE IS TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY MAKES MONEY .

THAT WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, THE CODES ARE ENFORCED AND THAT WE FOLLOW THE WILL OF NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT OF THE PEOPLE.

I, I INITIALLY CAME HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

I AM STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW WITH IS IT A SUPPORT OR IS IT NOT? UH, AGAIN, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FROM YOUR, YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S MY COMMENTS, MR. HOLROYD.

WELL, I THINK MR. KING SUMMARIZED IT WELL.

UM, EACH CASE IS, UH, INDIVIDUALLY DIFFERENT.

UM, I'M NOT A STRONG PROPONENT OF BOARDING HOUSES OR STRS OR, UM, OR, OR RENTALS.

UH, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER IT IF THERE WAS A STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T SEE THAT IN THIS CASE.

SO THE ANSWER'S OBVIOUS.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THAT AND, UH, TAKE A VOTE, RIGHT? WE NEED A PROPOSAL.

I PROPOSE.

OH, YOU WANNA MAKE A PROPOSAL? WELL, WE YOU WANNA DO THAT? YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT? DO THAT.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

P I JUST PROPOSED.

WE SEND PC 23 DASH 12 TO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

A MOTION BY MR. TEZ IS TO ADOPT PC 23 DASH 12 TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE THE RENTAL OF ROOM FOR NON-TRANSIENT USE AT 1100 SEAFORD ROAD.

MR. KING? NO.

MR. REINER? NO.

MR. SMITH? NO.

MR. PETERMAN? NO.

MR. HOLROYD? NO.

MR. TITUS? YES.

MS. LIAM? NO.

THE MOTION FAILS.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE THIS COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I HAVE NO OTHER INFORMATION.

UM, WE NEED TO GO TO OLD

[7. Old Business]

BUSINESS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? ANYONE? NO.

NO.

NO, SIR.

OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS.

[8. New Business]

WE HAVE NONE.

WE HAVE NONE.

COMMITTEE REPORTS.

I'VE SKIPPED ONE.

I SKIPPED ONE.

STAFF REPORTS.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

STAFF

[9. Staff Reports/Recent Actions by the Board of Supervisors]

REPORTS.

GET THAT ON PURPOSE.

.

SORRY.

OKAY.

TWO MORE MEETINGS THOUGH.

.

UH, OKAY.

AT THE, UH, MAY 16TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING THE BOARD APPROVED THE AUTO HOUSE APPLICATION ON MOTOWN ROAD.

GREAT.

AND THEY APPROVED THE SPECIAL USED PERMIT APPLICATION FOR, UH, FIFTHS AUTOMOTIVE ON ROUTE 17 TO HAVE GOLF CART SALES.

THEY ALSO, UH, HAPPY TO SAY THEY REAPPOINTED MR. SMITH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A FULL YEAR, FOUR YEAR TERM OF HIS OWN.

NICE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

AND, UH, HE JUST WALKED OUT THE DOOR, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO APPOINTED MR. JEFF WASMER.

HE MAY RECALL, OH.

FOR A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, TO FILL THE, AT LARGE POSITION TO BE VACATED BY MR. PETERMAN .

UH, SO, UH, MR. ROSSMAN WAS SITTING IN, IN THE BACK CORNER THERE.

UM, AND, UH, HE WILL OFFICIALLY START JULY ONE.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT WEEK, THE BOARD HAS FEW ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT, UH, CAME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE DO RV EXPANSION, WHICH WAS A REZONING AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, GOES TO THE BOARD JUNE 20TH.

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THE TOMMY'S EXPRESS CAR WASH ON ROUTE 17 IS ALSO ON THE AGENDA.

AND THE TOURIST HOME TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT YOU ALL RECOMMENDED BACK IN DECEMBER ARE ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.

COMING UP FOR THE, UH, ON THE COMMISSIONS JULY 12TH MEETING AGENDA, WE HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A TOURIST HOME TOURIST HOME IN CARVER GARDENS.

OH, WOW.

UH, AND WE HAVE AN INTERESTING CASE.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY THE REZONING AND A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UH, THE PROPOSAL, IF YOU REMEMBER THE LOCATION OF, UH, THE AUTO HOUSE, UH, SITE.

UH, THIS IS A LITTLE NORTH AND WEST OF THERE.

UM, IT'S ON MOTOWN ROAD.

IT'S ACTUALLY ACROSS FROM THE FERGUSON SHOWROOM ON MOTOWN ROAD.

UH, THERE'S ABOUT A 1.6, UH, ACRE SITE, AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP IT AS A COFFEE SHOP WITH DRI WITH A DRIVE THROUGH, UH, IN, IN A, IN ADDITION TO A STORAGE SHED, SALES AND DISPLAY BUSINESS.

KIND OF A WEIRD COMBINATION.

, UH, THIS, UH, SHE'S ACTUALLY OPERATING RIGHT NOW IN JAMES CITY COUNTY.

UH, FLIPPING FLEA IS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS, UM, OUT THERE ON, UH, ROUTE 17, NOT ROUTE 17, RICHMOND ROAD UP, UP IN TO ANO.

UH, AND, UH, SHE'S LOOKING TO RELOCATE TO, UH, SORT OF A LITTLE TRIANGULAR AREA THAT'S BOUNDED BY MOTOWN ROAD, OLD MOTOWN ROAD AND HOER LANE.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE WA TRANSFER FACILITY, UH, SITE.

YES.

IT'S ACROSS HOER LANE FROM THERE.

SO THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND REZONING CUZ IT'S ZONED E EO.

YOU CANNOT DO STORAGE SHED SALES IN EO.

YOU CAN DO THEM WITH A USED PERMIT IN GB.

SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE THE TWO PARCELS TO GB OKAY.

AND GET A USED PERMIT FOR THE STORAGE SHED.

SALES.

NOW I'M GOING, UH, THE, THE COFFEE SHOP ACTUALLY WOULD REQUIRE A USE PERMIT UNDER THE CURRENT EO ZONING, BUT IF IT'S REZONED TO GB, THAT BECOMES A BY RIGHT USE.

SO IT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED, UH, UH, SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND I WOULD REMIND YOU, AS YOU HAVE ALREADY ALLUDED TO MADAM CHAIR , SURE.

THAT AT YOUR JULY MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

UH, SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU'LL BE ELECTING, UH, NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

AND JUST TO REMIND YOU IF, I'M SURE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REMINDED, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE WORK SESSION A WEEK FROM TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY IN ROUTE 17 TO DISCUSS THE COMP PLAN.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU COULD, UH, EMAIL ME, UH, FAIRLY SOON BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET AN AGENDA OUT PRETTY QUICKLY HERE.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION TOPICS, QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT, UH, TO INCLUDE, UH, UH, ON THAT AGENDA, PLEASE DO SO.

UH, THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, BUT IT WILL NOT BE, IT WILL NOT BE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT'S JUST LIKE BOARD WORK SESSIONS, UM, AND MOST PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSIONS.

AND LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR, WELL, HE'S OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY NOW, MR. HILL, UH, TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COMMISSION.

I WANTED TO JUST TAKE THIS QUICK OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, UM, MY ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, MS. SHERRY CONSTANTINO, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT.

YOU WILL BE SEEING HER ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS GOING FORWARD, STARTING PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER, UH, AT, UM, SOME OF THESE MEETINGS.

AND SO I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS WHO WILL BE SITTING UP HERE.

AND, UM, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

WELCOME.

WELCOME.

WE'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE REPORTS.

I THOUGHT WE DID COMMITTEE REPORTS.

COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO, THAT WAS STAFF REPORTS.

THAT WAS STAFF REPORTS.

OH, OKAY.

ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS?

[10. Committee Reports]

NO.

? NO.

DON'T HAVE ANY COMMITTEES ANYMORE.

I'M JUST THINKING WHO'S A COMMITTEE HERE? OKAY.

ANY COMMISSION REPORTS?

[11. Commission Reports and Requests]

NO.

NOPE.

SO THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

GOOD.