[1. Call to Order ]
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UM, FIRST WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
MADAME CHAIR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
IF YOU'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOW WE'RE GONNA CALL FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
OH, I HAVE TO READ THIS CODE TO Y'ALL FIRST.
THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON LAND USE AND PLANNING ISSUES AFFECTING THE COUNTY.
THIS RESPONSIBILITY IS EXERCISED THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS CONVEYED BY RESOLUTIONS OR OTHER OFFICIAL MEANS AND ARE MATTERS OF PUBLIC RECORD.
THE COMMISSION IS COMPROMISED OF SEVEN CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD WITH ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH VOTING DISTRICT, AND TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.
YOU'VE HAD IT? NO, I ALREADY DID THE ROLL CALL.
DID HIM MATTER OF ORDER? EXCUSE MINUTES.
[4. Approve Minutes – March 8, 2023 ]
OKAY.WE'RE GONNA CALL FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
ANYBODY, MADAM CHAIR, I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
ALL IN FAVOR? YOU GONNA DO A ROLL CALL? YES.
THE MOTION BY MR. TITUS IS TO ADOPT THEM MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 8TH, 2023.
[5. Citizen Comments]
NOW WE'RE PROCEED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.UM, WE HAVE TWO TO COVER CITIZEN COMMENTS.
WE'RE GO, OH, YOU WANNA DO THE CITIZENS COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO THAT? YEAH.
IN GENERAL, ANYBODY THAT WANNA COME FORWARD AND TALK CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
I ONLY HAVE ONE PIECE OF PAPER, RIGHT? IS, UH, ANYTHING NOT OKAY.
CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE.
[Application No. UP-1005-23, Cliff’s Automotive LLC: Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 24.1-306 (Category 12, No. 5a) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, to authorize auto/light truck sales, rental, and service – specifically golf cart sales – on a 1.9-acre parcel (GPIN Q09d-2984-0580) located at 8427 George Washington Memorial Highway (Route 17). The property is zoned GB (General Business) and designated General Business in the Comprehensive Plan. ]
OKAY.SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS TO THE, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE'LL HAVE THE, WELL YOU JUST CALL ON MS SCORE TO GIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION.
THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AN EXISTING AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR FACILITY TO DISPLAY AND SELL GOLF CARTS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS OCCUPIED BY CLIFFS AUTOMOTIVE, IS A 1.9 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED ON ROUTE 17 ACROSS FROM THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED GB FOR GENERAL BUSINESS AND DESIGNATED GB.
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ZONED GB AND R 20.
FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH IS A VACANT PARCEL, UH, WHICH IS THE FUTURE SITE OF RIVERSIDE HEATING AND COOLING.
UH, TO THE EAST IS ROUTE 17 AND THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY BEYOND TO THE SOUTH IS CLAREMONT WAY AND BEYOND THAT IS A VACANT, UH, 12.5 ACRE PARCEL WITH AN ABANDONED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME ZONED GB.
AND TO THE WEST IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME.
HEY, THE APPLICANT, MR. CHRIS FAIRBANKS, SEEKS AUTHORIZATION TO SELL ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS AND DISPLAY UP TO FIVE AT A TIME ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO HIS EXISTING AUTO REPAIR FACILITY,
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HE PROPOSES TO INSTALL A GRAVEL DISPLAY AREA MEASURING 15 BY 40 FEET IN THE NORTHERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ALLOW ALONG ROUTE 17.HE ALSO STATED IN HIS PROPOSAL THAT THE GOLF CARTS WOULD BE STORED INSIDE THE BUILDING DURING THE HOURS THAT CLIFF'S AUTOMOTIVE IS NOT OPEN.
GOLF CART DEALERSHIPS ARE NOT EXPLICITLY ADDRESSED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, SINCE GOLF CARTS ARE VEHICLES, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAS DETERMINED THIS PROPOSED LAND USE TO BE SIMILAR TO AUTO OR LIGHT TRUCK SALES.
AUTO DEALERSHIPS ARE PERMITTED IN THE GB ZONING DISTRICT ONLY UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT RECOGNIZES THAT AUTO-RELATED USES COULD HAVE ADVERSE, UH, EFFECTS ON THE CHARACTER AND AESTHETIC QUALITY OF THE COUNTY'S MAJOR CORRIDORS.
IN THIS CASE, THE AUTO RELATED USE AND AUTO REPAIR FACILITY HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY, UH, REQUESTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISPLAY AND SELL GOLF CARTS.
STAFF BELIEVE THE PROPOSED USE WOULD WOULD NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
HOWEVER, STAFF HAS PROPOSED A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS TO ENSURE THE OPERATION REMAINS SMALL AND SCALE.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL, STAFF HAS PROPOSED A CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE ALL GOLF, GOLF CARTS ON THE PROPERTY TO BE SOLELY P SOLE, SOLELY POWERED BY ELECTRIC ENERGY TO ELIMINATE THE RISK OF GASOLINE LEAKING INTO THE GROUND.
PROPOSED CONDITIONS WOULD ALSO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF GOLF CARTS THAT CAN BE DISPLAYED ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY ONE TIME TO FIVE AND REQUIRE ALL GOLF CARTS TO BE STORED INSIDE DURING THE HOURS THAT CLIFFS IS NOT OPEN, UH, TO LIMIT THE VISUAL IMPACT OF THE OPERATION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS TWO EXISTING DRIVEWAYS, ONE OF WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 85 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF CLAREMONT WAY AND ROUTE 17.
THE ENTRANCE DOES NOT MEET, UH, VIDA'S CURRENT ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, AND THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRED THIS ENTRANCE TO BE CLOSED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
CLOSING THIS DRIVEWAY WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS AND IMPROVED SAFETY AT THE INTERSECTION.
THEREFORE, A STAFF IS PROPOSED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THE ENTRANCE BE CLOSED AND CONVERTED INTO A LANDSCAPE YARD THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
TO FURTHER BEAUTIFY THE PROPERTY, STAFF HAS PROPOSED AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO PLANT FOUR EVERGREEN SHRUBS OF AT LEAST TWO FEET IN HEIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED GOLF CART DISPLAY AREA.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALSO REQUIRES GOLF CART DISPLAY.
UH, THE GOLF CART DISPLAY AREA TO BE PAVED OR GRAVELED DOES NOT ALLOW ANY VEHICLES DISPLAYED FOR SALE TO BE PARKED ON GRASSED OR LANDSCAPED PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL TO INSTALL A 600 SQUARE FOOT GRAVEL PAD MEETS THIS REQUIREMENT.
STAFF HAS PROPOSED AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL LIMITING THE DISPLAY AREA TO THE 600 SQUARE FOOT AREA SHOWN ON THE SKETCH PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE COUNTY'S DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY HAS REQUESTED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
NUMBER ONE, GOLF CARTS ARE NOT TO BE STORED ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS COMPLETED AN INSPECTION OF THE BUSINESS TO ENSURE THERE ARE NO FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS.
NUMBER TWO, AN UPDATED EMERGENCY CONTACT FORM BE SUBMITTED TO THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE PROPOSED USE.
AND NUMBER THREE, A KNOX BOX BE INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE PROPOSED USE TO ALLOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL DOES NOT ADDRESS GOLF CART SALES.
IT DOES DISCUSS, UH, NEW CAR DEALERSHIPS, BUT ONLY ON, ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE THAN WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED.
REGARDLESS, GIVEN THE SMALL SCALE OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE, STAFF BELIEVE IT WOULD NOT GENERATE ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO THE LOCATION.
SO, IN STAFF'S OPINION, ALLOWING AN EXISTING AUTO REPAIR FACILITY TO HAVE ACCESSORY GOLF CART SALES REP REPRESENTS A FAIRLY SMALL INCREASE IN INTENSITY OF USE.
GIVEN THE SMALL SCALE OF THE PROPOSED USE, STAFF BELIEVE IT IS UNLIKELY TO PRODUCE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN ADDITION, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH MAKE THE NEARBY INTERSECTION SAFER AND IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY WITH LANDSCAPING.
FOR THESE THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 23 DASH FIVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND, UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? NO, GO AHEAD.
WHAT INTERSECTION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT'S GONNA BE MADE SAFER AND HOW IT'LL BE MADE SAFER? THE PUBLIC HEARING HASN'T STARTED YET.
YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, I'M SORRY, TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING APPLICANT.
SO WE WANT TO, UM, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THE APPLICANT AND EACH APPLICANT.
SO OUR FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA WILL BE CHRIS FAIRBANKS.
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GOOD EVENING.THIS IS MY PARTNER, RYAN JENKINS.
UM, SO WE, UM, IT, IT, OUR APPLICATION'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WE'RE ASKING TO SELL ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, ADDITION TO WHAT WE DO.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIX GOLF CARTS, OF COURSE.
UM, THERE'S A DEALER THAT'S REACHED OUT TO US.
THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, A PRESENCE IN OUR AREA.
THE CLOSEST ONE IS IN VIRGINIA BEACH.
UM, SO THEY ASKED IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, IN, UH, SELLING GOLF CARTS IN OUR, IN OUR LOCATION.
AND, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, IT WOULD, UH, IT COULD REPRESENT ANOTHER, UH, STREAMER REVENUE, UM, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE, UM, IN THE TASK OF BRINGING CLIFFS BACK TO LIFE.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE, THE FACILITY OF CLIFFS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS, UM, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS HERE ARE FOR BEAUTIFICATION OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THE PLACE SINCE DAY ONE, WORKING ON IT.
OF COURSE, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I HAVE TO ADDRESS THINGS IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE MONEY FIRST SO THAT WE STAY IN BUSINESS.
UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT ON THE INSIDE OF CLIFFS.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT THE LINE OF CARS ON ROUTE 17 HAS GONE AWAY.
UM, WE'VE INSTALLED L E D LIGHTING IN THERE.
THE OLD OUTLETS, WHICH WE'RE A BIT OF A FIRE HAZARD, ARE GONE.
WE JUST GOT OUR, UM, PERMIT APPROVED.
WE JUST RAN GAS LINES TO RUN NEW HEAT IN THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING NONSTOP, UH, SINCE WE GOT IN THERE.
SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE NOT GOT TO YET AT CLIFFS IS THE EXTERIOR.
UM, SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THERE, BUT, UM, I ASSURE YOU, I'VE BEEN WORKING MY BUTT OFF AT CLIFFS.
UM, SO IF THIS WORKS, IF IT DOES WHAT WE THINK IT WILL, IT'LL JUST BE ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM, WHICH WILL HELP US ACCELERATE BRINGING CLIFFS BACK.
UM, PERSONALLY, HE AND I, UM, ARE BOTH INTO REMODELING AND, AND WE'VE DONE THAT AT OTHER BUILDINGS BEFORE AT OUR HOMES.
UM, SO I ASSURE YOU CLIFFS IS GOING TO END UP, UM, UH, BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO BE A LONG TIME AGO.
UH, IT'S LONG OVERDUE, AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE DECADES WORTH OF, UH, MAINTENANCE TO CATCH UP ON.
BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP US GET THERE.
AS FAR AS THE THE REQUIREMENTS GO, UM, IF I'M BEING PERFECTLY HONEST, I PREFER NOT TO HAVE TO CLOSE AN ENTRANCE TO SELL GOLF CARTS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA COME UP.
BEAT OUT'S GONNA BRING THAT UP NO MATTER WHAT WE REQUEST TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A BIG ASK FOR GOLF CARTS.
UM, I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN, UM, WITH SOME SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS AS TO WHERE IT'S AT, JUST TO COMPLY WITH THE EXISTING CURBS AND STUFF THAT'S THERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, UH, I I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION.
UM, THEY'RE VERY POPULAR AROUND HERE, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND CLIFFS.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S, UM, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
UM, I NOTICE THAT YOUR APPLICATION IS FOR SALES ONLY.
YOU DON'T MENTION MAINTENANCE, UH, OF THESE CARTS.
SO IT, IT, OBVIOUSLY WITH LEAD ACID BATTERIES, YOU GOT STORAGE CONCERNS OR THERE CAUSES THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH MAINTENANCE TO BE DONE ON THE BATTERIES.
US REPLACED THEM AND THERE'S PROCEDURES TO, UM, DISPOSE OF THEM PROPERLY.
UH, AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE ON THE REST OF THE GOLF CART, THE MECHANICAL PART, IT'D REALLY BE NO DIFFERENT THAN A CAR.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON A LIFT.
I'D USE THE SAME TOOLS, UM, BUT WE WOULD FOLLOW WHATEVER PROCEDURES ARE PERTINENT TO THE, THE BATTERIES IN THEM.
OR DISPOSE SIMILARLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROHIBITING MAINTENANCE ON GAS, GOLF CARTS, IS THAT WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS ARE THE FUTURE.
UM, THE MOTOR IN A, IN A GAS ELECTRIC OR IN A GAS, UH, GOLF CART IS A SMALLER ENGINE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OUR SPECIALTY.
IF SOMEONE WERE TO BRING US A A GAS CART, UM, WE COULD DO WORK ON THE SUSPENSION AND THE REST OF IT.
BUT SMALLER ENGINES, THAT'S SORT OF ITS OWN, UM, INDUSTRY THAT'S LAWN MOWERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE COMING? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE COMING? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE, UM, OR ANYBODY ELSE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
DOES SOMEBODY CITIZEN WANT TO COME FORWARD AND HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NONE.
YOU WANNA COME ASK YOUR QUESTION? UM,
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NO.WE WE'RE WITH ANOTHER CONSULTATION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT PUBLIC MEETING.
AND THE COMMISSIONER, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO, I THINK THE APPLICATION'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT LOOKS LIKE AN IMPROVEMENT TOWARD, UH, A GOOD BUSINESS.
I THINK THERE'S, UH, GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME CONCERN OR SOME CARETAKING ON WHERE THOSE PLANTS ARE LOCATED NEXT TO THE ROAD AT THE ENTRANCE, JUST SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A, A TRAFFIC HAZARD OF PEOPLE, UH, EXITING THE LOT.
I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS AN IMPROVEMENT, UH, OVER WHAT, WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE.
AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE, UH, APPLICATION.
GENTLEMEN, LIKEWISE, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS.
UM, CLIFFS HAS A, A GOOD REPUTATION AND, UH, NEW OWNERS ARE, ARE TRYING TO GET IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
IT'S PARTICULARLY LIKE THE LANDSCAPING.
I KIND OF, AS I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I WISH THEY COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THE SIGN TO MATCH IT MORE LIKE THE LIBRARY, BUT THAT'S BEYOND SCOPE HERE.
OKAY, THEN, UM, I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PC 23 5.
THE MOTION BY MR. SMITH IS TO ADOPT PCU 23 DASH FIVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE GOLF CURRENT SALES AT 84 27 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.
[Application No. UP-1006-23, Hans Hohlrieder: Request for a Special Use Permit to authorize the establishment of an auto/light truck sales, rental, and service facility, pursuant to Section 24.1-306 (Category 12, No. 5a) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, on a 4.1-acre parcel (GPIN C18a-1465-3836) located at 100 Ashby Park Drive (Route 1037). The property is zoned EO (Economic Opportunity) and designated Economic Opportunity in the Comprehensive Plan. ]
IS PASSED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.YOU ARE GOING TO TALK, RIGHT? MR. YES, MA'AM.
YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? UH, THANK YOU.
MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE, UH, AUTO SALES AND SERVICE WITHOUT BODY WORK OR PAINTING AT 100 ASHBY PARK DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT, HANS HOLE RIDER OWNS AND OPERATES AUTO HOUSE FOREIGN IMPORT, UH, CAR DEALERSHIPS, UH, ONE HERE IN THE COUNTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREEN DRIVE AND ROUTE 17, UH, ONE UP ON SECOND STREET IN THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, AND ALSO ONE IN VIRGINIA BEACH.
UH, HE IS LEASING THE SECOND STREET LOCATION, AND HE WISHES TO RELOCATE THAT OPERATION FROM THERE TO, UM, A NEW FACILITY TO BE BUILT AT 100 ASHBY PARK DRIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MOORE TOWN ROAD AND ASHBY PARK DRIVE.
THE PARCEL IS INDICATED BY THE STAR ON THE ZONING MAP HERE.
ZONED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY HAS BEEN ZONED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY SINCE 1995, AND HAS BEEN DESIGNATED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SINCE 1991.
SURROUNDING ZONING IS EO TO THE NORTH, UM, RR TO THE SOUTH RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN TO THE EAST PDR.
THE PDR ZONING REPRESENTS THE, UH, TOWNHOUSE SECTION OF THE ARBORDALE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BACK IN 2017.
UH, ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS MOTOWN ROAD IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, PROPERTY IS ZONED R TWO, WHICH IS THEIR GENERAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
UH, THOSE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP HERE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, THE, UH, AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ABOUT A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
THE EO ZONING PROVIDES FOR A RANGE OF RETAIL OFFICE, TOURIST ORIENTED AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, EITHER AS A MATTER OF RIGHT OR WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
FOR EXAMPLE, USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT INCLUDE HOTELS AND MOTELS, UH, DAYCARE CENTERS, UH, RESTAURANTS, MICRO BREWERIES, BREW PUBS, EMERGENCY CARE CLINICS, COMMERCIAL KENNELS WITHOUT OUTSIDE RUNS, UH, VAPE SHOP, SHOPPING CENTERS.
SO WHOLE VARIETY, UH, OF COMMERCIAL USES WOULD BE PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
UH, UNLIKE THESE USES, HOWEVER, AUTO SALES AND SERVICES, UH, OUR SERVICE, UH, DOES REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT, UH, WHAT'S PLANNED IS AT APPROXIMATELY 25,000 SQUARE FOOT AUTO DEALERSHIP BUILDING, AS I SAID, THERE WOULD BE SALES USED, CAR SALES, UH, AND SERVICE CONDUCTED ON THE SITE.
UH, THERE'S A PERFORMANCE STANDARD ZONING
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ORDINANCE REQUIRES ALL REPAIR WORK BE CONDUCTED INDOORS, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, EIGHT TO SIX.SATURDAY, NINE TO FOUR SUNDAY, UH, THE FACILITY WOULD BE CLOSED.
SO, UH, UH, BASICALLY DAYLIGHT, UH, HOURS, NO NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY, UH, WHICH IS, UH, AN AN ADVANTAGE GIVEN THAT THE PROPERTY BACKS UP TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, BOTH TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, PLANS TO BUILD A SIX FOOT OPAQUE PRIVACY FENCE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THIS, THIS SITE AND THOSE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL, UH, AREAS.
UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE DESIGNATES MOTOWN ROAD AS A GREEN BELT BUFFER, WHERE A 45 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED.
UH, IN ADDITION, UH, BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, UH, 20, THERE'D BE A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG ASHBY PARK DRIVE, UH, 14 AND HALF FEET, UH, TO THE EAST, ADJACENT TO, UH, WHAT'S A 35 FOOT, UH, BUFFER ON THE ARBORDALE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN A 35 FOOT TRANSITIONAL PUFFER TO THE SOUTH.
SINCE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED EO, ANY FREESTANDING SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE MONUMENT TYPE, UH, MAXIMUM AREA 64 SQUARE FEET HEIGHT, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 10 FEET.
UH, AND SINCE IT IS A CORNER LOT WITH TWO STREET FRONTAGES, UH, THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO, UH, TWO FREE-STANDING SIGNS.
UH, THE SKETCH PLAN DOES NOT INDICATE, UH, ANY SIGNAGE, UH, TRAFFIC.
UH, THE, UH, UH, FACILITIES ESTIMATED GENERATE, UH, WELL, YOU CAN SEE THE TRIP NUMBERS ON THE SLIDE THERE.
UH, THE MAIN POINT IS THAT, UH, THESE ARE RELATIVELY LOW FOR COMMERCIAL USE, AND THEY, UH, ARE LOWER THAN OUR THRESHOLDS FOR REQUIRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO NO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS REQUIRED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
VDOT REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND THEY STATED THAT THEY HAD NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED USE.
UH, HERE'S A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY TAKEN, UH, BACK IN 2021.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THAT TIME.
UH, THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
UH, THE, UH, NARRATIVE SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION INDICATES THAT THE, UH, UH, FACILITY WOULD BE MODELED ON, UH, THE APPLICANT'S EXISTING DEALERSHIP ON GREEN DRIVE.
SO, THOUGHT I OUGHT TO INCLUDE A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT FACILITY LOOKS LIKE.
UH, SO THIS IS, UH, HIS DEALERSHIP, UH, HERE IN THE COUNTY AT ROUTE 17 IN GREEN DRIVE.
UH, GOING BACK TO THE PROJECT SITE, UH, THIS IS THE VIEW, UM, FROM THE NORTHWEST.
UH, AND THEN HERE'S A VIEW, UH, FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF MOORE TOWN ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES, UH, TOWARD THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THIS IS THE VIEW FROM ASHBY PARK DRIVE.
UM, AND THERE'S A, A LITTLE CLOSER VIEW OF THE ADJOINING TOWNHOUSES.
AND THEN, UH, THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE JAMES CITY SIDE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM MOTOWN ROAD.
APPLICANT'S SKETCH PLAN, UH, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE GREEN AREAS ARE THOSE BUFFERS, UH, THAT I MENTIONED.
UH, YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, SOME PLANTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, ASHBY PARK DRIVE IS BASICALLY THAT, THAT FRONTAGE IS BASICALLY BARREN OF ANY LANDSCAPING.
UH, AND ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO, UH, WE'RE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG MOTOWN ROAD.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'VE INDICATED, UH, CONCEPTUALLY, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, PLANTINGS.
AND ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE IS WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN ZONING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, ANY, UH, BAY DOORS, UH, HAVE TO BE, UH, AT LEAST PARTIALLY SCREENED, UM, BY, UH, LANDSCAPING AND OR, UH, BERMS OR WHATEVER.
UH, SO THERE WOULD BE, THE LANDSCAPING WOULD'VE TO BE STRATEGICALLY PLANTED TO SHIELD VIEWS FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM BOTH PUBLIC STREETS.
UH, OF THOSE, UH, BAY DOORS, I MENTIONED THE, UH, SIX FOOT OPAQUE FENCE THAT'S SHOWN HERE, UH, IN RED.
AND, UH, THAT CERTAINLY PROVIDES, UH, SCREENING, UH, UH, FROM THE SOUTH AND THE EAST.
UM, AND, UH, THE, THE, THE FENCE WOULD BE ON THE INSIDE OF THE REQUIRED, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
UH, UH, ONE THING I WANNA MENTION, UH, WE HAVE A CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT OR IN THE RESOLUTION, UH, THAT STATES THAT THE, UH, UH, DUMPSTER TRASH DUMPSTER IN THIS CORNER NEEDS TO, UH, EITHER BE MOVED OR
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DESIGNED TO BE UNDER ROOF AND, AND DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY SO THAT LEACHATE CANNOT ESCAPE.UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THIS, UH, CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT A HALF AN ACRE, UH, IS IN OUR WATER.
UH, WELL, THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS IN OUR WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLANNING, OUR WATER MANAGEMENT PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UH, AND THIS LITTLE HALF ACRE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WITHIN 500 FEET OF A 200 FOOT WATERSHED BUFFER.
SO THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE, UH, UNCOVERED, UM, TRASH DUMPSTERS, UH, WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE 200 FOOT WATERSHED BUFFER ALONG TRIBUTARY STREAM.
UH, SO AS I SAY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE EITHER UNDER ROOF OR DESIGNED SO THAT LEACH SHADE CAN'T ESCAPE.
UM, AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, SORT OF AN OVERLAY OF THE SKETCH PLANT ONTO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE PROJECT, UH, TO ITS SURROUNDINGS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE EAST, UH, SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES, UM, THE, UH, PARKING WOULD BE, UH, ABOUT JU JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER 50 FEET FROM THOSE, UH, TOWNHOUSE LOTS.
THERE IS A 35 FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER ALREADY IN PLACE ON THE AR ARBORDALE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, ON THE AUTO HOUSE SIDE, THEY WOULD BE ADDING ANOTHER 14 AND A HALF FEET, SO 49 AND A HALF FEET, UH, OF LANDSCAPING, AND PLUS THE, UH, OPAQUE FENCE.
AND, UH, HERE'S AN ELEVATION THAT, UH, RENDERING THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS RATHER SIMILAR TO THE, UH, UH, UH, GREEN DRIVE FACILITY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FENCING TO THE REAR HERE.
AND THERE'S A FENCE DETAIL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UH, REQUIRING THE FENCING TO BE, UH, SIMILAR STYLE, SIMILAR TYPE.
UH, IN SUMMARY, WE FEEL THIS DEALERSHIP WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE ADDITION TO THE MOTOWN ROAD CORRIDOR.
IT'S GONNA EXPAND THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE WITHOUT ADVERSELY AFFECTING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN RESOLUTION PC 23 DASH SIX R.
NOW, THIS, UH, SIX R IS, SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, UH, I MADE A MISTAKE ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
I PUT EIGHT TO FIVE 30 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
SO THAT'S THE CHANGE, UH, IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
UH, MR. HOL RIDER IS HERE, AND, UH, MR. DAVIS, UH, IS HERE TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. CROSS.
SO, MR. CROSS, AS I INDICATED TO STAFF, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY MONDAY EVENING TO, UH, TO MEET WITH BOTH THE APPLICANT AND MANY OF THE RESIDENTS OF ARBORDALE HOA.
UM, I COMPLIMENT, UH, I COMPLIMENT THE APPLICANT ON, UH, ON HAVING THAT MEETING, PROACTIVE MEETING TO ADDRESS SEVERAL OF THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAD REGARDING THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
I THINK MOST, MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WERE RESOLVED, UH, DURING THAT MEETING.
SO VERY, UM, VERY GOOD WAY OF HANDLING THAT ISSUE.
THERE WERE TWO ISSUES THOUGH THAT CAME UP THAT REQUIRED SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY THAT NEITHER THE APPLICANT NOR THE HOA COULD, UH, UH, COULD DO ON THEIR OWN.
ONE OF THEM WAS, UH, IN REGARDS TO LIGHTING ON ASHBY PARK, UH, DRIVE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES INCREASE ON HERE, PARTICULARLY, UH, IT'S MORE THE WINTER HOURS WHEN YOU'RE, UH, WHEN YOU'RE LIMITED, UH, DAYLIGHT HOURS, THERE'S CONCERN THAT THERE'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH LIGHTING AS, AS YOU, UH, GO DOWN THE LENGTH OF ASHBY PARK.
IT IS A, IT IS A ROAD THAT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS USE FOR WALKING.
UH, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT TO LOOK AT LIGHTING ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET.
UH, SEE IF IT CAN'T BE IMPROVED.
SECOND, UH, SECOND ITEM THAT CAME UP WAS, IS THIS INFAMOUS, UH, U-TURN ON MOTOWN ROAD.
NOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, THE IMPACT STUDY WAS NOT REQUIRED BASED ON THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL PROBLEM, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, IF YOU ARE COMING SOUTHBOUND ON MOTOWN, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO PAST ASHBY PARK BY ABOUT 200, 250 FEET BEFORE YOU CAN THEN MAKE A U-TURN ON AN EIGHT, UH, A FOUR-LANE ROAD.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S COMING OFF A CURVE, UM, WHICH IS PROBLEMATIC IN ITSELF.
SO I, I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE COULD GO BACK TO VDOT AND AT LEAST EXAMINE WHETHER OR NOT A LEFT TURN LANE COULD BE MADE AT THE ASHBY PARK ENTRANCE.
I THINK THAT'S, I, I CAN'T MAKE YOU ANY PROMISE PROMISES ON THAT.
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I REALIZE YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT I UNDER, BUT I THINK IT IS A LONG-TERM ISSUE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH.AND, UH, I SUGGEST WE AT LEAST RECOMMEND THAT THEY RECONSIDER THAT.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, UNLESS THERE'S A, A PROVEN, UH, SAFETY, UH, PROBLEM.
WES NOT GONNA TAKE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
WHAT'S THAT? SINCE ONE WAS NOT DONE FOR THIS PROJECT, WE SHOULD BE DOING.
TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE FOR INTER THIS, THIS PAR PARCEL IS PART OF INTERNATIONAL CENTER, AND A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE FOR THAT ENTIRE CENTER, UH, WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED.
BUT THAT ROAD DESIGN IS TERRIBLE.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK MAYBE THAT'S GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, UH, WITHOUT A, UH, UH, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YEAH, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK.
IS THAT RIGHT? GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR
I'M GREG DAVIS, PLEASED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING HANS HOLE RIDER, UH, THE APPLICANT IN THE CASE ALSO WITH ME IS BENNY ZANG, MY COLLEAGUE AT KAUFMAN AND CANOLES IN THE WILLIAMSBURG OFFICE.
AND RICH BARNES, THE PROJECT ENGINEER FROM AT TCS, MR. CROSS ALWAYS DOES A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF BRIEFING THE COMMISSION ON SITE AND PLANNING ISSUES.
AND I'M GONNA WORK HARD NOT TO REPEAT WHAT HE'S DONE SO ARTICULATELY, BUT TO TRY TO HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SITE AND THEN FOCUS ON OPERATIONS SO YOU UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THIS DEALERSHIP WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IMPACTS IT WOULD HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING MATCHING UP VERY NICELY WITH THE GREEN DRIVE LOCALITY, WHERE MR. HOLE RIDER'S FAMILY BUSINESS IS OPERATED FOR 30 YEARS IN YORK COUNTY.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING A FACILITY LIKE THIS, UH, SECOND AUTO HOUSE LOCATION TO YORK COUNTY.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW WITH MORE TOWN ROAD ON THE LEFT, ASHBY PARK DRIVE AT THE TOP OR THE NORTH.
AND THE AERIAL WAS TAKEN BEFORE ALL OF THE, UH, ARBORDALE, UH, TOWNHOUSES WERE BUILT ON THE RIGHT HAND OR EASTERN SIDE.
BUT, BUT FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES, MR. CROSS MENTIONED THE 45 FOOT, UH, PLANTED BUFFER AS A PART OF THE GREENWAY, UH, PROTECTION BY ORDINANCE ON MOTOWN ROAD.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU'LL LOOK TO THE, THE EAST OF THE SITE, YOU SEE THIS 35 FOOT AREA I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN HERE.
THIS WAS PLANNED AS A PART OF THE ARBORDALE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S 35 FEET OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT INTENDED TO CREATE JUST THE BUFFER THAT THOSE TOWNHOUSE NEIGHBORS OF OURS AND MR. HOLE RIDER WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO IN ADDITION TO THAT PREEXISTING BUFFER, THIS APPLICATION CALLS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15, WELL, 14 AND A HALF FEET OF BUFFER WITH THAT FENCE IN THE LOCATIONS SHOWN HERE, WHERE THE AUTO HOUSE PROPOSED DEALERSHIP WOULD ADJOIN NEIGHBORS IN ARBORDALE AND TO THE SOUTH.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD RECEPTION, UH, FOR THAT DESIGN AND EVEN THAT COLOR FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, AS MR. HOREY MENTIONED.
AND, AND HE WAS NICE ENOUGH TO ATTEND.
UH, WE DID ACCEPT NICE INVITATION FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AT ARBORDALE TO, UH, MEET, UH, AT THEIR CLUBHOUSE ON MONDAY NIGHT.
AND A, AND A NUMBER OF POINTS WERE RAISED THERE, UH, WHICH WE ADDRESSED WITH THEM, AND WHICH WILL CHANGE THE APPLICATION.
UH, FIRST THE OPAQUE FENCE, UH, THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE DREW SOME DISCUSSION.
SOME FELT THAT PERHAPS A, A FENCE THAT WAS NOT OPAQUE, THAT YOU COULD SEE THROUGH OR PARTIALLY SEE THROUGH MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THROUGH CONVERSATION AND SHOW OF HANDS, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT WAS FOR AN OFFENSE THAT WAS OPAQUE AND BLOCKED VIEWS OF THE, OF THE REAR OF THE DEALERSHIP.
UH, RESIDENTS OF ARBORDALE VISITED BOTH THE WILLIAMSBURG AND THE GREEN DRIVE LOCATIONS OF AUTO HOUSE.
AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION, UH, INTERACTED WITH MR. HOLE RIDER AND HIS STAFF, AND RAISED SOME QUESTIONS.
AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT AND IN JUST A MINUTE ABOUT THE OPERATING HOURS AND WHEN DELIVERIES ARE RECEIVED, AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THOSE SITE VISITS PRODUCED FROM ARBORDALE FRIENDS.
UM, AT THE MEETING MONDAY, RESIDENTS ASK MR. HO RIDER IF HE'D HAD ANY INTERACTION, ANY PROBLEMS WITH HIS NEIGHBORS AT HIS OTHER LOCATIONS.
AND HE SAID, NO, NEVER HAD A PROBLEM EITHER IN THE WILLIAMSBURG LOCATION OR ON THE GREEN DRIVE, UH, OPERATION IN YORK COUNTY.
ANOTHER CITIZEN RESIDENT SAID, WHAT ABOUT TEST DRIVES? OR FOLKS GONNA COME TO THE DEALERSHIP AND WANT TO TEST DRIVE A CAR DOWN THROUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? MR. HOLE RIDER EXPLAINED
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THAT THEY SEE THAT AS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.UM, THESE ARE, UM, EUROPEAN CARS THAT AUTO HOUSE SPECIALIZES IN THEIR PERFORMANCE VEHICLES.
FOLKS WANT TO GET THOSE VEHICLES OUT ON A BIGGER ROAD, WARM 'EM UP AND TEST THEIR PERFORMANCE.
SO IT'S LIKELY THAT THE TEST DRIVES ARE GONNA HEAD OUT OF ASHBY PARK, TURN RIGHT HEAD TO 1 99, EVEN TO THE INTERSTATE.
UH, AND MR. HO RIDER FEELS THAT, UH, THESE ARE NOT VEHICLES THAT ARE, UH, SUITABLE OR WHAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO TEST DRIVING IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION IF THE PERMIT WERE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WERE GRANTED.
AND, UM, WE'VE CHECKED WITH THE CONTRACTORS WE'RE TALKING TO FOR THE PROJECT, AND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE HOURS WOULD BE LIMITED TO DAYLIGHT ABOUT SEVEN IN THE MORNING TO FOUR 30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
WHILE WE'VE AGREED TO A CONDITION ON OPERATING HOURS FOR AUTO HOUSE, IT'S, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO AGREE TO A CONDITION LIMITING CONSTRUCTION HOURS, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE THAT ODD EVENT WHERE A STEEL DELIVERY OR A CONCRETE POUR REQUIRES SOME ACTIVITY ON THE SITE AFTER THOSE HOURS.
BUT OUR CONTRACTORS ARE ASSURING US THAT PREDOMINANTLY THIS IS A SEVEN TO FOUR 30 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THE MEETING WENT SO WELL ON, ON MONDAY THAT YOU RECEIVED, UH, FROM MR. CROSS, I BELIEVE AN EMAIL FROM THE TREASURER, ONE OF THE OFFICERS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THERE AT ARBORDALE, SUGGESTING THAT THE RESIDENCE'S CONCERNS HAD BEEN MET.
BUT WE DID HEAR SOME OTHER CONCERNS.
UM, COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, AND PASSED ON TO ME FROM MR. CROSS, AND HE MADE SOME REQUESTS AND MADE SOME POINTS.
AND SO I'LL SHOW YOU ON THIS CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN WHERE AGAIN, MOTOWN ROAD IS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE, AND ASHBY PARK DRIVE IS AT THE TOP.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, ALONG THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES TO THE RIGHT AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AT THE SOUTH OR BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
THERE IS THIS, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION BUFFER, UH, THAT MR. CROSS MENTIONED.
AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE DUMPSTER, UH, SERVING THE NEW AUTO HOUSE FACILITY WAS HERE AT THE X.
SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN ARBORDALE, UH, RAISED A CONCERN WITH THAT TO YOUR PLANNING STAFF AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT ON OUR BOUNDARY LINE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE'VE REDESIGNED THE PROJECT TO MOVE THAT DUMPSTER TO THIS LOCATION ON THE SITE.
SUBMITTED THAT SKETCH PLAN TO MR. CROSS INTEND TO MAKE THAT A PART OF THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD.
UH, IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT WERE TO INCLUDE THAT MOVE, THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT.
THAT'S 150 FEET OR MORE NOW FROM THE REAR OR UH, EASTERN BOUNDARY LINE WITH THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES.
JUST A BIT ABOUT HOW AUTO HOUSE OPERATES.
UM, IT'S A FAMILY BUSINESS, UH, A A, A VERY COMFORTABLE SMALL BUSINESS FEEL ABOUT THE OPERATIONS IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE.
IF NOT, YOU SHOULD DROP BY, UM, NO OUTDOOR SPEAKERS OR PAGING SYSTEMS. YOU SAW THOSE AT AUTO DEALERS IN THE PAST, MAYBE IN YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCE.
MR. HORY TELLS ME NOW, THEY DO ALL THAT BY TEXT.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU FIND SOMEBODY ON THE SITE OR TELL 'EM THEY'VE GOT A CALL.
THE U P CONDITIONS CALL FOR A LIGHTING PLAN.
AND WE TALKED TO THE ARBORDALE RESIDENTS ABOUT THAT.
THEY SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS IN THE AREA OF THE SITE WHERE, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, NEW DEALERSHIP BUILDING AND THE ARBORDALE TOWNHOUSES, PERHAPS LESS LIGHTING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, CUZ THAT'S NOT WHERE THE CARS WOULD BE DISPLAYED.
MR. HOLE RIDER AND HIS ENGINEER AGREE.
AND SO AS WE WORK TOWARD A SITE PLAN AND PRESENT THAT PHOTOMETRIC PLAN OR MAPPING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE AND THE U CONDITIONS, WE'LL HAVE THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
FINALLY, A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT THE HOURS.
SO SALES AND SERVICE, UH, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 8:00 AM TO SIX EVERY DAY.
SATURDAYS MORE LIMITED HOURS, 10 TO FOUR WITH SALES, NINE TO TWO WITH SERVICE.
AND ON SATURDAYS, THERE IS NO SERVICE WORK DONE.
THE SERVICE MANAGER THERE FOR DROP-OFFS AND PICKUPS, BUT NO WORK BEING DONE THAT MIGHT DISTURB NEIGHBORS IN THEIR YARDS.
NEARBY SUNDAY'S, THE DEALERSHIP IS CLOSED, AND THESE HOURS MR. HO RIDER HAS AGREED CAN BE LOCKED IN AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT CONDITION.
UH, A REQUEST OF MR. CROSS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE ACTIVITY AT AN AUTO HOUSE DEALERSHIP, THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT HANDLES ABOUT 20 VEHICLES A DAY.
I LEARNED FROM MY CLIENT A MATTER OF FOLKS DRIVING ONTO THE LIGHT WILLY-NILLY AND KICKING TIRES AND ASKING TO SEE A SALESPERSON.
TODAY, THE TREND, AT LEAST AT AUTO HOUSE, IS FOLKS CALLING AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
OFTEN THEY'VE TALKED TO A SALESPERSON IN ADVANCE AND AUTO HOUSE'S EXPERIENCES.
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THERE ARE ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT APPOINTMENTS PER DAY AFTER HOURS DROP-OFFS ARE PERMITTED.BUT THOSE ACCOUNT FOR ONLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR OF THE 20 VEHICLES SERVICED TODAY.
AND THE QUESTION FROM ARBORDALE WAS, WELL, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE DROPPING OFF VEHICLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT? WELL, AUTO HOUSE HAS SECURITY CAMERAS.
MR. HORY WAS ABLE TO TRACK DATA ON WHEN PEOPLE DROP CARS OFF.
IT'S ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT IN THE EARLY EVENING.
NOBODY'S COMING OUT IN THEIR PAJAMAS AT MIDNIGHT TO DROP OFF THEIR CAR TO BE WORKED ON.
IT'S TYPICALLY DONE JUST AFTER WORKING HOURS.
SO THE VEHICLE TRIP PROJECTION THAT THE ITT MANUAL WOULD SET FORTH AND WAS QUOTED BY MR. CROSS AT 677 VEHICLES A DAY, WE FEEL IS HIGH.
OUR OWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER PROJECTS THAT BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS SERVICE, AND THE PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS SALES AT ABOUT 200 VEHICLES LESS THAN THAT USING IT STANDARDS.
AND FRANKLY, WITH THIS SERVICE AND SALES VOLUME, WE THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT FAR LESS THAN THAT 470 VEHICLE PER DAY FIGURE SITE'S BEEN PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY SINCE THE 1991 COMP PLAN, AND THE PROPERTY'S BEEN ZONED EO SINCE 95.
SO I'LL WRAP UP, MADAM CHAIR, AS MY TIME IS EXPIRING BY SAYING THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH YORK COUNTY'S PLANS, DOESN'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND BRINGS A, A HIGH, HIGH QUALITY, WELL ESTABLISHED YORK COUNTY BUSINESS' SECOND LOCATION FROM WILLIAMSBURG TO YORK COUNTY.
AND I WOULD ADD THAT THE PROJECTION FROM MR. HOL RIDER IS 30 TO 50 EMPLOYEES AT THE DEALERSHIP.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WOULD MR. HOLE RIDER AND MR. BARNES, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE, UH, COMMISSION FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION TO THE BOARD.
AND THE APPLICANT DOES APPROVE THE U P CONDITIONS BEFORE YOU GENTLEMEN, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST ONE.
IT IT, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE HOA MEETING MEETING, AND I NOTICED IN THE, IN THE NOTE FROM THEM, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED THAT THEY ADDRESSED SOME CONCERNS OVER THE FACT THAT THERE, THAT THAT AREA IS USED PRETTY FREQUENTLY BY WALKERS AND BIKES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW, DID THEY ADDRESS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN, OR THERE HAVE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATIONS IN THE LANDSCAPING PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE WALKERS ALONG THAT SIDE ON A, I GUESS IT'S ASHBY, UH, PARK DRIVE, MR. SMITH WE'RE EARLY IN THE PLANNING PHASE AND, AND, AND NOBODY WOULD INVEST IN A SITE PLAN BEFORE THEY HAD THEIR S U P RIGHTS TO BUILD.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT'S A QUESTION WE WOULD DEFER TO THE SITE PLAN STAGE AND INTERACT WITH MR. CROSS ON, HAVE TO BALANCE A WALKING PATH AGAINST THE OBLIGATION TO PUT IN LANDSCAPING.
BUT WE CERTAINLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THEN I GUESS WE'LL WILL BE OPENING THIS FOR CITIZEN PARTY.
WHAT? YEAH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, I DON'T HAVE WHERE ANYONE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP AND WISH TO COME FORWARD, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.
DO WE WALK UP THERE OR JUST YES, MA'AM.
AND YOU'RE LIMITED TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
YEAH, WE NEED, I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
SO I THINK IT WAS MR. HOLROYD WHO MENTIONED LIGHTING ALONG ASHBY PARK.
UM, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL COUNTY PROVIDED LIGHTING? IF THERE'S GOING TO BE LIGHTING PROVIDED ON SITE BY AUTO HOUSE, WHY WOULD THERE, WHY IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING? CONCERN I HEARD WAS FROM RESIDENTS WHO WALK ALONG THE LENGTH OF ASHBY PARK DRIVE, THEY WANTED TO SEE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
UH, BEYOND WHERE AUTO HOUSE IS LOCATED, THEY'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THEY WANTED TO SEE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING PROVIDED CORRECT.
I PERSONALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO COUNTY LIGHTING ALONG THAT ROAD, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED AT ALL FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
UM, I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THOSE FREQUENT BIKERS, UH, EVERY OTHER DAY MY HUSBAND AND I BIKE, ASHBY PARK DRIVE.
WE'VE NEVER HAD A CONCERN ABOUT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING NEEDED.
UH, MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL THE PROPOSED FENCE BE MADE OUT OF? IT WAS HARD TO TELL WHETHER IT WAS VINYL OR WOOD.
IT, IT SEEMED TO BE WOOD-LIKE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT GONNA BE MADE OUT OF THE FENCE? VINYL.
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PARDON ME? VINYL.SO NOT A BRIGHT WHITE VINYL FENCE, BUT YEAH.
JUST TO GIVE MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS REFLECTS OTHERS IN ARBORDALE, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT REMAIN UNDEVELOPED.
BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T OWN THAT LAND.
AND, UM, GIVEN WHAT COULD BE IN THERE, UM, OVER WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE PRETTY PLEASED ABOUT THE OPTION OF AUTO HOUSE COMING IN.
SO HOW YOU DOING MR. HOL RUDDER? THANK YOU.
WE'LL NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I'M ARLEN BUSH, UM, 3 33 CAPE SIDE COURT.
WE, WE ARE ON A PIECE OF THE ARBORDALE PROPERTY THAT YOU LOOKED DOWN.
CAPES WE'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE AUTO HOUSE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE, UH, TOWNHOUSE UNITS AWAY DOWN CAPE SIDE DRIVE, CAPE SIDE COURT.
UM, INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, ANYTIME WE HEAR OF NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, IT, IT, IT RAISED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH AUTO HOUSE AND THE MEETING THAT THEY HAD WITH US ON MONDAY, UH, MANY OF MY PERSONAL CONCERNS HAVE ALL BEEN LAID.
AND I'M PLEASED THAT THE ATTITUDE OF THE APPLICANT TOWARDS HAVING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH HIS NEIGHBORS IS SO OBVIOUS.
AND, UM, COMPARED TO ALTERNATIVES, I I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE AS A RESIDENT OF, OF ARBORDALE TO HAVE SUCH A, A NEIGHBOR MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I WANNA THANK THEM FOR THEIR PROACTIVE NATURE THAT THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS.
I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC MEETING.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? CERTAINLY.
UH, I NEGLECTED TO MENTION IN THE PRESENTATION, MR. DAVIS SPOKE ABOUT LIGHTING.
UH, WE HAVE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESS, UH, LIGHTING AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE LIGHTING ON THE SOUTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SINCE THEY ABUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THE, THE LIGHTING IS HELD TO A STRICTER STANDARD AND IT CANNOT BE AS BRIGHT.
UH, THE STANDARD IS 0.1 FOOT CANDLE OF ILLUMINATION AT THOSE PROPERTY LINES EVERYWHERE ELSE.
UH, THE OTHER TWO PROPERTY LINES, 0.5 IS THE MAXIMUM ILLUMINATION.
SO WE DO THAT DELIBERATELY TO, TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL AREAS FROM, UH, SPILLOVER LIGHTING FROM OTHER, UH, FROM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THERE WILL, THESE WILL BE WHAT WE CALL FULL CUTOFF, UH, FIXTURES, WHICH MEANS THE LIGHT SHINES DOWNWARD.
IT DOESN'T BREAK THE HORIZONTAL PLANE.
UH, AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AS FAR AS HOW BRIGHT THAT IT CAN BE.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING ELSE? FEEL GOOD? OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? WE'LL OPEN THAT FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.
NO ONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.
I APPLAUD THE, UM, THE INTERACTION WITH THE HOA.
WE DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN AND IT'S A POSITIVE OUTCOME ON IT HAS NOTED THAT I, I APPRECIATE THAT FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, I ALSO NOTICED THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY THE HOA AND SOME OF THE OTHER CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE HAVE SEEN HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, I AGAIN RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER THE OPTIONS OF YOUR, YOUR, UH, WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR SITE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE WALKER'S, UM, AS A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD GESTURE, UH, TYPE THING.
AND I'M, UH, AGAIN, I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION.
I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO IT.
UM, I'M NOW GOING TO, UM, I'VE LOST MY PLACE.
CALL FOR A MOTION IF NONE OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
CALL FOR A MOTION, UH, FOR PC 23 DASH SIX R
THE MOTION BY MR. ROY IS TO ADAPT PC 23 DASH SIX R TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE AUTO SALES RENTAL AND SERVICE AT 100 ASHBY DRIVE.
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IS THERE ANY, WE MOVED TO THE OLD BUSINESS NOW.IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS WE WISH TO DISCUSS? NO.
[8. Proposed Capital Improvements Program, FY 2024-2029: Certify the proposed Capital Improvements Program for conformance with the Comprehensive Plan in accordance with Section 15.2-2232 of the Code of Virginia. ]
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IMPROVE STA STAFF REPORTS? NO, NO, NO.WE HAVE THE C I P, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
UH, EVERY YEAR THE COMMISSION IS, UH, REQUESTED TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S PROPOSED CAP SIX YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, UH, AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THAT ALL OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, IT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION TO FORMALLY ENDORSE THE CIP P OR WEIGH IN ON THE MERIT OF THE VARIOUS PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CERTIFYING CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, MOST OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, ARE HELD OVER FROM PREVIOUS CIS AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN CERTIFIED.
UH, THERE ARE A FEW, I THINK 11, UH, NEW PROJECTS.
AND THOSE ARE, UH, UH, THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND WE HAVE, AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE CROSS REFERENCE TABLE, UH, SHOWING, UH, WHERE EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS OR HOW EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
SO YOU HAVE THAT, UH, IN YOUR PACKAGE.
AND WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE RESOLUTION PC 23 DASH SEVEN TO CERTIFY CONFORMANCE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF PC 23 DASH SEVEN.
A MOTION BY MR. SMITH IS TO ADOPT PC 23 DASH SEVEN TO CERTIFY THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
[9. Staff Reports/Recent Actions by the Board of Supervisors ]
NOW, SHOULD WE HAVE ANY MORE STAFF REPORTS? UH, YES MA'AM.UH, THERE WERE NO, UH, UH, BOARD ACTIONS, UH, TO REPORT ON AT THE MARCH 21ST MEETING CUZ THERE WERE NO LAND USE CASES, UH, THAT WERE ON THAT AGENDA.
UH, AT THE BOARD'S UPCOMING MEETING THIS TUESDAY ON THE 18TH, THEY DO HAVE ONE APPLICATION THAT YOU ALL, UH, REVIEWED LAST MONTH.
THAT IS THE JACOB WYNN APPLICATION, UH, FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FIREARM SALES AND GUNSMITHING.
UH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, KIND OF A HEAVY AGENDA COMING UP, UH, FOR MAY 10TH.
WE HAVE THE DOD RV REZONING AND USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS, WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO GO TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, BUT, UH, WE'RE, UH, POSTPONED AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, THOSE ARE TWO APPLICATIONS, BUT IT'S JUST REALLY ONE CASE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A APPLICATION USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A CAR WASH ON ROUTE 17.
UH, THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO, UH, THE CASE THAT YOU ALL HAD A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THE YORKTOWN EXPRESS WASH, WHERE THEY WERE DEMOLISHING AN EXISTING CAR WASH AND REPLACING IT WITH A NEW, NICE MODERN CAR WASH.
IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE CAR WASH NEXT DOOR TO THAT FACILITY.
UH, IN FRONT OF THE, UH, ON ROUTE 17 IN FRONT OF THE, UH, KROGER SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, UH, SO THE APPLICANT WANTS TO, UH, DEMOLISH THAT BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW FACILITY THAT WOULD BE STRICTLY CAR WASH, NO BLUE JOBS.
SO THAT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA.
WE ALSO HAVE, IT'S BEEN A WHILE, UH, BUT WE HAVE TWO TOURIST HOMES ON THE AGENDA.
UH, ONE GET AWAY FROM ON PENMAN ROAD AND THE OTHER ON WILKINS DRIVE, WHICH IS IN YORK TERRACE.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE, IS FOR A BOARDING HOUSE, UH, ON LEWIS DRIVE IN THE SEAFORD AREA, A FOUR BEDROOM BOARDING HOUSE AND INSISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME.
I I SEE THE QUIZZICAL LOOK ON YOUR FACE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT HAD, UH, ONE OF THESE, UH, BEFORE BOARDING.
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BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT, UH, THERE'S, THAT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA.UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AND THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE.
STAFF, ARE WE DONE COMMITTEE REPORTS.
[10. Committee Reports ]
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? YES, WE DO.A WEEK AGO TODAY, APRIL 5TH, WE HAD OUR LAST QUOTE, OFFICIAL 2040 COMP PLAN COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE GOT A LONG ROAD TO GO, YET SOME, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, PLANET COMMISSION, OF COURSE, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND, UM, SO, UH, I ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO STAY TUNED, STAY ENGAGED, STAY WITH US UNTIL IT'S OVER.
UM, AND IN FACT, I THINK IT NEAR THE END, I, I THINK, UH, UM, UH, MR. GREEN ENCOURAGED US TO STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, ISSUES THAT COME UP IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY MAY NEED A CITIZEN BODY TO KIND OF, UH, MULL OVER AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WE DISCUSSED, UH, ALL THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED.
YOU CAN FIND THEM, UH, ON THE WEBSITE OR 20 OR COMP PLAN 2040 WEBSITE, ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT COMPARE, LOOK AT THE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE BY THE COMMITTEE THAT IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME THAN WHAT THE EXISTING COMP PLAN HAS.
UM, I, I THINK, UH, THE COMMITTEE OVERALL WAS DIVERSE, ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, CONTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF INPUT, AND, UH, I, I THINK WE, WE PRODUCED A, A GOOD OUTCOME FOR THE COUNTY'S FUTURE AND VERY PLEASED WITH IT.
UM, EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND, UM, AND ACTUALLY MR. HOREY ATTENDED MANY THE MEETINGS HIMSELF, MR. STRUBLE, UH, IN THE UPPER COUNTY.
AND, UH, I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO START READING THE DRAFT.
UH, LET, LET, UH, THE COMMISSION MYSELF OR STAFF KNOW, UH, IF YOU SEE ANYTHING.
UM, MR. CROSS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, IF I COULD JUST PIGGYBACK, UH, ON YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, COUPLE THINGS CAME UP AT THE, AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING.
UH, THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT STAFF DISCOVERED, UH, IN GOING THROUGH THE DOCUMENT.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN POST THE REVISED DRAFTS ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, AS MR. KING SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREVIOUS DRAFT IS, IS ON THE WEBSITE AND IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 98% MM-HMM.
BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME CHANGES.
UH, SO WE, ONCE THAT LITTLE CLEANUP EFFORT
UH, THE, THE REVISED, UH, CHAPTERS WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
WE WILL BE PROVIDING A HARD COPY OF THE COMPLETE PLAN TO EACH OF YOU, UM, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRM SCHEDULE YET, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, BUT THE JUNE MEETING IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY.
UM, I JUST, UH, THANKS TIM FOR ADDING TO THAT.
UH, I JUST WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, JUST A COMMISSION.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE JOB OF A PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO RECOMMEND OR, AND PRODUCE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE LOCALITY.
SO IT'S OUR NUMBER ONE MISSION.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
UH, JUST BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE PUT TO PUT IT TOGETHER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE COMMISSION'S COMPLETELY HAPPY WITH IT.
UH, I, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY FIND IT 90%, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD AND, AND WE'VE BEEN KEEPING YOU POSTED AS WE WENT, GO ALONG.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET IT, IT'S, IT'S UP TO US TO, UH, ENSURE THAT IT'S COMPLETELY INTACT AND THAT IT REPRESENTS, UH, UM, THE, THE, UH, DESIRES AND WILL OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I THOUGHT MR. CROSS AND MR. KING DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF WRAPPING UP THE, UH, UH, 33 PLUS WEEKS OF, UH, OR 33 PLUS MEETINGS.
UM, ENTERTAINED ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS AS WELL AS ALL THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS.
I THINK, UH, A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF GOING THROUGH EACH SECTION
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AND ENSURING THAT, UH, ALL ALL COMMENTS WERE, UH, WERE NOTED.NOT ALL OF THEM, OF COURSE, WE CAN WORK WITH, BUT, BUT I THINK, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED.
AND THANKS TO STAFF FOR, UH, POSTING AND, AND PULL AND, UH, DO ALL, ALL HEAVY LIFTING TO MAKE SURE ALL OUR MEETINGS WENT SMOOTHLY AND EVERYTHING WORKED OUT FINE.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING AND ADJOURN THE MEETING.