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IS YOUR BIRTHDAY, NOT YOU, JUST MONTH,
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SEPTEMBER.WELL LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE, UH, WORK SESSION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR OF YORK COUNTY, UH, FOR TODAY.
AND, UH, WHAT'S TODAY? APRIL THE FOURTH.
AND, UH, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS MEETING WITHOUT COUGHING MY HEAD OFF.
IF YOU, UH, ARE SUFFERING FROM ALLERGIES, YOU HAVE MY DEEPEST SYMPATHIES.
I KNOW SEVERAL OF US IN HERE, THEY HAD, UH, SOME PRE, UH, UH, SEVERE REACTION TO, UH, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.
SO ANYWAY, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS
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IS OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO HIM TO TALK BEFORE I START COUGHING.SO WE'VE ARRANGED THIS WORK SESSION SO I DON'T HAVE TO TALK VERY MUCH, SO I WON'T HAVE TO COUGH TOO MUCH.
UM, SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S ALLERGIES VIS-A-VIS SOME OTHER CONCUSSION? I'M AIDS GIVE IT EIGHT ON THE RECORD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. ROMAN.
UM, SO WHAT'LL WE PROPOSED IS TO GO THROUGH THIS SEQUENCE OF TOPICS FOR RELATED INTO THE PROPOSED 24 BUDGET.
UM, EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH DR.
ACRES, WHO'S GRACIOUSLY SERVED AS OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT COMMITTEE LEADER AGAIN.
AND SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD START WITH HYMNS AS OUR GUEST.
THEN WE WOULD, UH, ROLL TO THE OTHER PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL SUPPORT BUDGET, WHICH IS SORT OF MORE DIRECTLY, UH, MANAGED BY THE BOARD.
FOR THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, AMY HOLLAND AND TERESA JOIN US UP HERE.
AND THEN WE ARE GONNA EXPLORE THE SORT OF THE BIG DRIVERS ON THE EXPENDITURE AND REVENUE SIDE IN THE GENERAL FUND, PROBABLY THE AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT.
AND FOR THAT, UH, UH, GREG GILLETTE WILL JOIN TERESA AND THE THREE OF US WILL PRESENT ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, ROSE IS GONNA BACK CLEAN UP AND PRESENT ON, UH, COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.
SO THAT'S OUR PLAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG.
SO ANYBODY FEELS LIKE YOU GOT QUESTIONS, THAT'S THE TIME TO ASK IT.
CAUSE YOU'LL NOT REMEMBER IT TIME TO GET THROUGH THIS STUFF.
FRONT OF YOU, WE'LL JUST ASK QUESTIONS THAT GO ALONG.
SO THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, MS. NOLES.
UM, BEAR WITH, WELL, WELCOME DR.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS? IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
IT'S NICE TO BE BACK IN PERSON A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE ALL HAD TO DO IT REMOTELY, SO THIS IS REALLY NICE.
UH, SO I WANTED TO START TONIGHT BY THANKING ALL THE COUNTY STAFF THAT THAT HELPED US OUT WITH THE PROJECT THIS YEAR.
UH, PARTICULARLY SHERRY NEWCOMB, BRIAN FULLER, UH, TERESA OWENS AND BELINDA
THESE GUYS ARE, ARE ALWAYS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HELP WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS STUFF TOGETHER.
UH, THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO DO WAS THANK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, PARTICULARLY FROM, UH, DISTRICT ONE.
IT'S, UH, GREG SAURA, DISTRICT TWO, ALEXANDRIA PAYNE, UH, DISTRICT FOUR, ELLEN THACKER, AND DISTRICT FIVE, DAVID ALLEN.
AND THOSE GUYS ARE ALL WONDERFUL.
UM, AND YOU ARE FROM DISTRICT THREE? I AM FROM DISTRICT THREE
SO THIS YEAR, AND I, I CHANGED THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR BECAUSE, UH, WE HAD A DIFFERENT GROUPING OF PEOPLE AND IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD TIME TO REDO IT.
UH, BUT WE HAD 16 APPLICANTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, AND WE HAD SEVERAL NEW APPLICATIONS AND A COUPLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THAT DECIDED NOT TO APPLY THIS YEAR.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE BREAK THE GROUPS INTO, UH, CATEGORIES OF SERVICE, AND THAT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHICH GROUPS DO SIMILAR WORK AND TO PRIORITIZE WHERE THE FUNDING GOES.
WE HAVE THREE GROUPS THAT PROVIDE MEALS AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION.
THREE, THAT FOCUS ON INDEPENDENT LIVING SUPPORT, THREE GROUPS THAT PROVIDE EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL SHELTER.
UH, TWO THAT PERFORM YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND ADVOCACY.
UH, TWO THAT PROVIDE REHABILITATION THERAPY AND TREATMENT.
UH, ONE THAT FOCUSES ON END OF LIFE CARE, ONE THAT PROVIDES SUPPORT TO VETERANS, AND THREE THAT PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, SOME OF THESE GROUPS PROVIDE, UH, MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF SERVICE.
AND THAT'S REALLY A SERIOUS CONSIDERA CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DO FUNDING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MEASURE, UH, EVERYBODY AGAINST WHAT THEY PERFORM IN THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL WONDERFUL ORGANIZATIONS WHO DO A LOT OF GREAT STUFF, UH, SOME OF THE WORK IS MORE PERTINENT, UH, TO THE WELLBEING OF THE CITIZENS THAN OTHERS.
AND ALL OF THAT HAS TO SORT OF BE TAKEN INTO, INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THIS YEAR WE GOT, UH, AN INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAD $60,000 IN, UH, IN FUNDING TO DISTRIBUTE.
SO LET'S START ON, ON HOW THAT WENT OUT.
SO BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE APPLICANTS, I WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT WE CONSIDER, UH, WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, BUT I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN IT AGAIN JUST SO THIS ON THE RECORD.
UH, WE PROVIDE A MAP OF THE SERVICE AREA SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THESE GUYS,
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UH, PERFORM THEIR SERVICE AND WHO IS AFFECTED BY IT.UH, WE'VE ALSO GOT A CHART SHOWING THE NUMBER OF COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT THEY SERVE VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THAT THEY SERVE.
AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED A CHART THAT SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF CO COUNTY FUNDING, UH, THAT THEY RECEIVE COMPARED TO SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING.
AND THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, OF WHERE THEIR MONEY'S COMING FROM AND, AND HOW WELL SUPPORTED THEY ARE, SIR.
BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP OF THIS, YOU MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT, UH, THERE WERE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU SUPPORTED, WE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST THAT DIDN'T APPLY THIS YEAR.
ANY FEEDBACK ON WHY IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THEY, I I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE.
AND THE COUNTY, UH, COUNTY STAFF REACHED OUT TO 'EM SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE THEY CONTACTED ME.
AND WHEN THEY SENT ME THE STUFF, I REACHED OUT TO 'EM AGAIN.
UH, AND IT, IT WAS JUST, UM, THEY SEEMED EAGER TO APPLY AND THEN THEY DIDN'T.
UH, SO WE GAVE THEM ALL THE WAY UP.
I MEAN, WELL PAST THE DEADLINE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DAY WE MET.
AND THEY, FOR SOME REASON WERE NOT ABLE TO GET TOGETHER.
AN EXAMPLE OF WHO DIDN'T APPLY, UH, THE UNITED WAY.
THE NEW PERSON SEEMED EAGER TO GET IN AND, AND GET THE APPLICATION DONE, BUT I THINK MAY HAVE GOTTEN SIDETRACKED IN THE PROCESS.
UM, AND I'M SURE THEY, THEY FILL OUT REQUESTS FOR A LOT LARGER FUNDING THAN THEY GET FROM THE COUNTY.
AND I'M, I'M SURE SHE WAS INUNDATED WITH THAT.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT REALLY SURPRISING, BUT WE DID GET A COUPLE OF NEW APPLICANTS THIS YEAR THAT, UH, UH, ONE OF WHICH I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, SO LET'S START WITH THE ARC.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SERVICES IN THE FORM OF WELLNESS PROGRAMS, UH, RECREATIONAL THERAPY, SELF-ADVOCACY AND LIFE SKILLS TRAINING TO 139 DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED ADULTS IN YORK COUNTY.
UH, THEIR SERVICE AREA IS LIMITED TO JAMES CITY, COUNTY, YORK COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND PACOIN.
AND THEY PROVIDE ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THEIR TOTAL SERVICES TO THE, UH, YORK COUNTY RESIDENCE.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING TO THEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,500.
I SEE YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING.
TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO YOUR GROUP, THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING AND NOT RELYING ON THE COUNTY.
WELL, IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THAT, UH, I, I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME RELIANCE ON THE COUNTY, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THEY CAN'T HAVE COMPLETE RELIANCE ON THE COUNTY.
IT, IT SHOWS GOOD FAITH ON THEIR BEHALF.
AND THEN THEY APPLY FOR GRANTS AND STUFF TOO.
UH, BECAUSE IF, IF ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DEPENDED ENTIRELY ON THE COUNTY FOR FUNDING, IT WOULD BE A DISASTER.
THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD SUPPORT IT.
THEIR, THEIR BUDGETS ARE HUGE AFTER THEY GET ALL THIS OTHER FUNDING IN.
AND IN DOING SO, WE'RE ASKING THAT THEY DO THEIR PART AND, AND THEY DO.
THESE ORGANIZATIONS REALLY DO GO OUT AND AGGRESSIVELY FUNDRAISE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO DIVERSIFY THEIR FUNDING SOURCES.
CAUSE THEY RELY ON ONE E ONE BIG AND THAT ONE GOES AWAY.
THEN THAT PUTS 'EM IN A BAD SHAPE.
SO THEY, THEY SHOULD ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
COURAGE TO DIVERSIFY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND, UH, AND MOST OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE, ARE FUNDED SOMEWHAT FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IT'S USUALLY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY GET FROM THE OTHER LOCALITIES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THEY'RE PROVIDING THERE.
SO IT REALLY BALANCES OUT PRETTY WELL.
UM, BUT ALSO A LOT OF 'EM, THEY GO FOR FEDERAL GRANTS AND OTHER GRANTS, AND THEY DO QUITE WELL WITH THAT.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE, UH, AVALON CENTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
THIS IS ONE OF THREE, UM, WOMEN'S SHELTERS THAT WE HAVE, UH, FUNDED THIS YEAR.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SHELTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, A 24 4 HOUR CRISIS LINE COUNSELING SERVICES AND EDUCATION AND TRAINING.
UH, WHILE THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES DO GO TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, THEY ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE IN YORK COUNTY, AND THEY DIRECTLY SUPPORT 60 RESIDENTS LA LAST YEAR.
UH, OF THE THREE SHELTERS THAT ARE INCLUDED, AVALON HAS BEEN THE MOST EFFECTIVE IN SECURING SUPPORT, UH, FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER DONORS.
AND THAT SPEAKS VERY WELL TO THE QUALITY OF THEIR PROGRAM.
AND FOR THEM, WE'VE, UH, RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING.
THEY ASK FOR 4,000, AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED ALL OF IT.
UH, THE NEXT IS BACON STREET YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION FOCUSES LARGELY ON PROVIDING PREVENTATIVE AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF YOUTH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THEIR JOURNEY, JOURNEY HOME PROJECT, UH, PROVIDES SERVICES THAT ARE FREE OF CHARGE FOR YOUTH AGE 10 TO 16, AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
UH, THEIR PRIMARY SERVICE AREA IS IN JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UH, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE SERVICE FOR 400 YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS
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THIS YEAR.UH, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING $4,000 IN SUPPORT TO THIS GROUP, WHICH IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
AND NEXT WE HAVE BIKE WALK OF WILLIAMSBURG.
UH, AND FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS THE, UH, BICYCLE CO-OP OF WILLIAMSBURG AND PROMOTES BICYCLE SAFETY.
UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDE FREE BICYCLE HELMETS TO ADULTS AND CHILDREN WHO NEED THEM.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED 960 IN FUNDING TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT THEY ASK FOR.
BUT IN, IN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IN MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE RELATIVE IMPACT OF ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AGAINST THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
NEXT IS THE COLONIAL COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES, UH, COURTROOM AND COMMUNITY ADVOCACY FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE VICTIMS OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
LAST YEAR, THEY PROVIDED SUPPORT FOR 30 CHILDREN IN YORK COUNTY, UH, COLONIAL CASA, UH, SERVICES, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, YORK COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND FOSEN.
UH, THEY RECEIVED SOME SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES, BUT THE BULK OF THEIR SUPPORT COMES FROM GRANTS AND FROM INDIVIDUAL DONORS.
UH, THIS YEAR WE RECOMMENDED AN INCREASE IN FUNDING TO THIS GROUP, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,600.
NEXT IS THE COMMUNITY BRAIN INJURY SERVICES.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES LIFE SKILLS TRAINING, VOCATIONAL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES TO YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE, UH, SUFFERED BRAIN INJURY.
UH, THE GROUP HAS A FAIRLY LARGE SERVICE AREA THAT EXTE EXTENDS ACROSS THE PENINSULA AND A GLOUCESTER AND ISLE OF WHITE.
IN THE PAST, THEY'VE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING GRANTS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
AND THIS YEAR'S APPLICATION, THEY DIDN'T SHOW ANY OF THAT FUNDING, BUT THEIR OVERALL FUNDING REMAINED AT THE SAME HEIGHT.
SO I EXPECT THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT ON THEIR APPLICATION RATHER THAN THEY LOST IT.
I THINK THAT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN, UH, MUST HAVE BEEN A, MAY HAVE BEEN A FILING ERROR, UH, BUT CERTAINLY WE'LL SEE MORE NEXT YEAR.
WELL, IF MAY WHAT? THE DEARTH OF CONTRIBUTION FROM OTHER LOCALITIES, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT, I THINK THAT THEY, UH, WHEN I LOOKED AT THEIR OVERALL FUNDING FROM LAST YEAR, AND IT REMAINED THE SAME.
SO I THINK THEY MAY NOT HAVE JUST FILLED OUT THAT PART OF THE FORM.
I CAN IMAGINE SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCALITIES PULLING THE PLUG ON THIS.
NO, NO, THAT'S PARTICULARLY GOOD REPUTATION.
AND, AND THEY HAD, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD RECEIVED A VERY GOOD FUNDING IN PAST YEARS FROM THE OTHER LOCALITIES.
SO I, I EXPECT THAT'S THE CASE.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED, UH, FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF, UH, $2,150, UH, WHICH IS A, A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
SO THIS ONE, UH, IS THE HISTORIC VIRGINIA LAND CONSERVANCY.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION WORKS TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE SIGNIFICANT SCENIC AGRICULTURE AND HISTORIC LANDS, UH, ALONG THE JAMES YORK AND RAPPAHANNOCK RIVERS.
UH, THEY LIST THE NUMBER OF COUNTY RESIDENTS, UH, AS THE RES AS THE TOTAL SERVED, WHICH SUPPOSE IS FAIR BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY THE WATER AND EVERYTHING.
UH, WE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING, UH, $1,550, UH, IN SUPPORT TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
HOW, HOW DO THEY ACTUALLY GO ABOUT PROTECTING AND PRESERVING? WHAT IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS? DO THEY WORK? HOW, WHAT, HOW DO THEY MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE, THE LAND AC FOR LAND ACQUISITION TO ACQUIRE LANDS AROUND HISTORIC, THE HISTORIC WATERWAYS.
SO I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING IT THROUGH PURCHASE.
SO THIS PRESERVE IS ACTUALLY OWN OWNED PROPERTY DONATIONS OR DONATIONS.
TAX, SOME TYPE OF TAX PREFERRED DONATIONS WOULD STUFF LIKE THAT.
I WOULD'VE TO LOOK AT THEIR FILING AGAIN, TO BE SURE.
BUT WE, YEAH, WE HAVE ALL OF THAT ONLINE.
ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? WE HAVE ALL THE FORMS ONLINE.
UM, NOW THIS, THIS IS ONE I THINK THAT, THAT WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE BEREAVEMENT SERVICES, UH, AND RESPITE SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVERS.
UH, THIS YEAR THEY PROVIDED SUPPORT TO 25 RESIDENTS IN YORK COUNTY.
THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREA IS YORK COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY, AND WILLIAMSBURG.
BUT THEY OFTEN PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AS FAR AS WAY FAR AWAY AS GLOUCESTER AND SURRY COUNTY.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING FUNDS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER SOURCES.
AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE QUALITY OF THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING, UH, $5,350 TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS AN INC INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
AND THIS IS ONE I I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF CUZ IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION IS LOCATED IN YORK COUNTY AND PROVIDES TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SKILLS, WORKSHOPS, TUTORING AND COUNSELING
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TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN.AND THEIR SERVICE AREA INCLUDES MOST OF THE PENINSULA, BUT THE BULK OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUPPORTED IN THEIR PROGRAM ARE FROM HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.
UH, THE FUNDING THEY REQUESTED THIS YEAR IS LARGELY TO SUPPORT THEIR SEED TO TABLE PROGRAM, WHICH PRODUCES ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS TO SUPPORT THEIR SERVICES.
UH, AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE RECOMMENDED, UH, SUPPORT IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,250.
UM, SO THESE GUYS ROUTINELY WILL MAKE A VERY SIZABLE REQUEST, UH, AND WE TEND TO KEEP THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE RECOMMEND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER SHELTERS.
SO WE'RE DON'T LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE THERE AND SAY THAT THINK THAT WE'RE SLIGHTING THEM OR ANYTHING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BALANCE THEM ACROSS EVERYBODY ELSE.
UH, NEXT IS THE TRANSITIONS, FAMILY VIOLENCE SERVICES.
AND AS THE NAME SUGGESTS, THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER HOTLINE SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO ARE THE VIC VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
UH, THEIR SERVICE AREA COVERS, COVERS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA, UH, BUT THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES GO TO THE RESIDENCE AGAIN OF HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.
UH, THEY ALSO RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FROM SURROUNDING LO LOCALITIES, AND THEY HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE FUNDRAISING PROGRAM.
UH, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE RECOMMENDED INCREASING THEIR FUNDING, UH, TO $6,100.
CAN I ASK WHAT WE, WE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UH, THAT YOU GUYS PRI PROVIDED US MM-HMM.
AND THOSE GUYS, WE, WE RAISED THOSE UP AS WELL IN AS WELL AS MOVING SOME TO THE, UH, THE OTHER TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAME IN.
AND THIS IS A NEW ONE, AND I THINK MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THE VIRGINIA, WASHINGTON ROCHE BO REVOLUTIONARY ROOT ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS TOO BIG TO PUT ON ONE PAGE.
SO THEY COOKED IT DOWN TO W THREE R S, UH, AND THIS ORGANIZATION WORKS TO COMMEMORATE THE PATH THAT THE FRENCH IN CONTINENTAL ARMIES TOOK WHEN MARCHING TO THE SIEGE OF YORKTOWN.
AND THE ROUTE GOES THROUGH NINE STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
SO THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO PRESENT BECAUSE WHEN THEY SENT IN THE APPLICATION, THEY SAID THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVED WAS INCALCULABLE
YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BENCHMARK INCALCULABLE.
SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU THE WAY THAT WE GOT THESE NUMBERS SO THAT EVERYTHING'S TRANSPARENT.
I ASSUME THAT AMONG THE BEST YEARS WE HAVE, ON AN AVERAGE BASIS, WE GET 25,000 VIRGINIANS THAT'LL COME TO THE YORKTOWN DAY CELEBRATION.
SO WE TOOK THAT PROPORTION AS THE POPULATION OF VIRGINIA, AND WE USED A SIMILAR PROPORTION FROM THE POPULATION OF ALL THE OTHER STATES THAT THE THING GOES THROUGH.
AND WE FIGURED, AH, THAT'S IT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A, I I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WRITE A DOCTORATE ON THAT, BUT IT SEEMED REASONABLE.
IT'S A LITTLE FUZZY BUT FUZZY ABOUT, BUT THAT IS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY, IF EVERYBODY CARES AS MUCH ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AS WE CARE ABOUT OURS, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THAT'S ROUGHLY THE PROPORTIONS.
IT WOULD BE, THE NUMBERS WILL CERTAINLY VARY.
BUT IT, SO, UH, WALT, THIS IS SORT, SORT OF REMINDS ME OF, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE ROUTE CELEBRATION THEY HAVE IN, UH, YORKTOWN, NEW YORK, WHICH IS NAMED AFTER YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA.
I, I WOULD GAMBLE THAT THIS GOES THROUGH THAT.
AND AS START FACT, THE LADY UP THERE THAT'S HEAD, HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OR RUNNING THIS IN NEW YORK, CALLED ME AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT THE, IS PART OF THE ROUTE THEY TOOK TO GET TO, UH, HERE THEN.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS JUST PART OF THAT.
WELL, THIS IS THE, SO THE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS PERSON, YOU ALL KNOW IT'S DAVE MEREDITH.
UH, SO THE, HE'S, UH, DOING THE, HE'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THE VIRGINIA PART OF THIS.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS IN ALL THE OTHER STATES THAT TRY TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE THING.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE, THE TIME YOU'RE MOST LIKELY TO HEAR ABOUT IT IS, IS, UH, ON YORKTOWN DAY.
UH, CUZ WE, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A GUY THAT ACTUALLY WALKED THE TRAIL IN COLONIAL GARB FROM BEGINNING TO END AND LANDED HERE, UH, ON OCTOBER 19TH.
SO ARE THEY, ARE THEY TRYING TO LIKE MARK THE TRAIL? THESE ARE THE FUNDS OF MARK ASPECTS OF THE TRAIL, OR? I THINK IT'S TO MARK IN, TO PUBLICIZE, UH, SO THAT I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS, UH, ABOUT THE THING.
AND THAT OF COURSE LEADS TO BETTER FUNDING AND LEADS TO BEING ABLE TO PUT UP MORE SIGNPOSTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A NEW APPLICATION THIS YEAR, SO I, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION ON IT, BUT, UH, WHAT THEY PROVIDED, UH, IT WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD INVESTMENT AT THAT LEVEL.
UH, AND WHAT WE DID RECOMMEND WAS $1,350, AND THIS IS ALSO A NEW ONE THIS YEAR.
AND THIS IS THE, UH, VFW POST NINE 60 MM-HMM.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES AID TO VETERANS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE NEEDY AND
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DISABLED TO OBTAIN REHABILITATION, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT.UH, THEIR SERVICE AREA IS ALMOST ENTIRELY IN YORK COUNTY WITH SOME SUPPORT SU UH, EXTENDING INTO THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000 TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS, THIS IS LESS THAN THEY ASKED FOR, UH, BUT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE PROVIDING SIMILAR SUPPORT.
YOU PUT THE COLORS ON ME IN THE PIE CHART.
UH, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FLIP THE COLORS.
IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S SO MANY MORE IN YORK COUNTY THAN THE RED ONES THAT IT INVERTED ITSELF.
SO, UM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALMOST ALL THIS FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR IS COMING FROM YORK COUNTY THERE.
UM, WHERE, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT POST IS LOCATED? I DO NOT.
IS THAT THE ONE ON, UH, SEMORE SE SYCAMORE LANE? MM-HMM.
BUT THEY'RE SELLING THEIR LOCATION.
WELL THAT'S PART OF THEIR CHALLENGES, THEIR, THEIR FINANCES WITH THEIR FACILITY.
I'M A VETERAN OF TWO YEARS IN VIETNAM.
AM I A VETERAN OF FOREIGN WARS? I SUSPECT I AM.
BUT WHAT'S ALWAYS CONFUSING IS THE TITLE, VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT POST IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY? UH, WE HAD THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE CIVIL WAR.
IS THAT A FOREIGN WAR? PROBABLY, PROBABLY NOT.
BUT DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A DEFINITION OF OF WHO QUALIFIES TO BE A A, A MEMBER OF VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS? THERE ABSOLUTELY IS.
WHAT, I DON'T KNOW
SO I'M REMEMBER THE AMERICAN LEGION BULL, UH, AND THE AMERICAN LEGION WAS, WAS FOUNDED OR WAS ESTABLISHED BY CONGRESS SOMETIME BACK.
I I THINK THE VFW WAS, UH, FOUNDED LATER.
UH, BUT YET, IN ORDER TO HAVE MEMBERSHIP IN IT, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, SERVED IN A, A COMBAT SITUATION OVERSEAS.
WELL, YOU CERTAINLY WOULD QUALIFY, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO JOIN A POST IN ORDER TO BE A MEMBER WHO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU.
YEAH, I KNOW THEY WOULD, BUT THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.
MY QUESTION WAS JUST, IS THERE A, YOU KNOW, A DEFINED, UH, DEFINITION AND MAYBE YOU'RE CLOSE TO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
IT IS, AND THERE IS WALTER, REMEMBER BILL TOWNSLEY FOR EXAMPLES, UH, IN THE, AT, VERY ACTIVE IN THE VFW.
AND, UH, AND HE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF, OF ME TO BE A MEMBER OF THE, OF VFW.
I'M SURE IT'S ON THE COMPUTER.
YOU MUST, YOU MUST BE A VETERAN WHO HAS LY SERVED OVERSEAS IN AN AREA OF FOREIGN CONFLICT IN ORDER TO JOIN THE VFW
I WAS JUST SUGGESTING CIVIL WAR, PROBABLY HE DOESN'T QUALIFY YET.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF 'EM ARE ALIVE RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S PROBABLY OKAY.
I'VE GOT A GREAT, GREAT GREAT
AND NEXT, THESE, THESE GUYS, AGAIN ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
IT'S THE, UH, VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK.
AND THE FOOD BANK PROVIDES A CENTRALIZED REPOSITORY FOR DISTRIBUTING FOOD, UH, TO NEEDY INDIVIDUALS ON THE PENINSULA.
UH, THEY WORK WITH LOCAL CHURCHES AND, UH, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO SET UP DISTRIBUTION POINTS WHERE THE FOOD CAN BE DISTRIBUTED, UH, TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, BY THE PEOPLE WHO CAN RECOGNIZE THE NEED.
UH, SO THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA AND PROVIDE MEALS AND SUPPORT TO 4,805 RESIDENTS IN YORK COUNTY.
UH, THAT'S DOWN A THIRD FROM LAST YEAR.
AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THAT.
COVID CREATED A HORRIBLE SITUATION AND, YOU KNOW, MANY OF US DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YORK COUNTY DID.
AND THESE GUYS JUST DURING COVID DID A YEOMAN'S JOB.
THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE PROVIDING MORE FOOD THAN THEY EVER HAD.
AND, UH, AND NOW THANK GOD THINGS ARE, ARE GETTING CLOSER TO NORMAL.
UH, BUT THESE GUYS, UH, I I WOULD GIVE 'EM ALL I COULD IF, IF I COULD, BUT THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE IT AGAINST EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THOSE GUYS USUALLY ASK FOR PRETTY MUCH PRETTY CONSISTENT AMOUNT CUZ WE EXPLAIN THAT WE HAVE TO, TO GO ACROSS ALL THE OTHER GUYS.
THEY'VE GOT A GOOD DIVERSE BASE TOO.
AND THEY, IT'S, IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S IT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY.
DO DO THEY ROLL UP TO A LARGER ORGANIZATION OR ARE THEY COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT? I THINK THEY'RE AUTONOMOUS.
UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S ONE, UH, VARIOUS, UH, I MEAN, LIKE, THERE'S THE, THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA, THEN THERE'S ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEY GOT MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND THEY'RE ALL RATED DIFFERENTLY RIGHT.
SO THE, UM, THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK IS RATED HIGH AS YOU CAN GET.
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THEY'RE JUST EXTRAORDINARY.AND NEXT WE HAVE WILLIAMSBURG FAITH IN ACTION.
AND THIS GROUP ALSO PROVIDES INDEPENDENT LIVING, UH, SUPPORT BY PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES VISITS, WELL CHECKS AND HELP WITH CHORES IN DAILY TASKS TO 43 YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS.
UH, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREA IS WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS IN THE BRUTON DISTRICT.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION IS WELL SUPPORTED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH DONATIONS AND WITH GRANTS AND CAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEIR WORK AND THE CHALLENGING TIMES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LIVING IN, WE'VE RECOMMENDED, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN FULL FUNDING TO THIS ORGANIZATION, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,840.
I WILL CHANGE THE WAY I SAY THAT BEFORE NEXT YEAR.
UH, NEXT PART IS NEXT ONE IS, UH, WILLIAMSBURG AREA MULES ON WHEELS AND THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM IN YOUR COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG ARE PROGRAMS THAT FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES.
UH, FIRST THEY PROVIDE HOT MEAL DELIVERY, UH, TO THE SICK AND THE ELDERLY.
AND OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE, THOUGH, UH, THEY SUPPORT INDEPENDENT LIVING BY PROVIDING A DAILY CHECK-IN, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE LIVING ON THEIR OWN.
UH, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREA IS WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO PROVIDE, UH, SERVICE TO 145 YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS IN THE BRUIN DISTRICT.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY RECEIVE, UH, $2,800 IN FUNDING THIS YEAR.
SO THE BRUIN DISTRICT THAT DEFINES WHAT GOD'S COUNTRY, SPORTS DISTRICT, YOU GO, WELL, IS IT REALLY? OKAY.
AND FINALLY WE HAVE THE, UH, YORK COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS AND LIKE, LIKE THE OTHER MEALS ON WHEELS, THEY, UH, PROVIDE HOT MEALS TO RESIDENTS AS WELL AS SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING.
THEIR SERVICE AREA IS EXCLUSIVELY YORK COUNTY AND THE YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS.
AND THEY SUPPORT 545 INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR THEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,550.
THEY'RE THERE THREE, THREE ORGANIZATIONS.
DOES THE MEALS ON WHEELS TYPE OF PROGRAM OR THE TWO, THE TWO MEALS ON WHEELS.
AND THEN, UH, YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE FOOD BANK, WHICH LIKES FOR, SO, SO DO YOU KNOW IF THE TWO MEALS ON WHEELS ORGANIZATION GET TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE ON THEIR EFFORTS SINCE THEY'RE A LOT OF OVERLAP IN SERVICES AND AREA? I DON'T THINK THEY DO.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ORGANIZED QUITE DIFFERENTLY.
UH, THE, THE ONE IN, IN WILLIAMSBURG, UH, I LOOKED THROUGH THE MATERIAL AT ONE POINT.
IT, IT'S, UH, IT, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT OURS IS AN UNPROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
UH, THEY'RE MUCH MORE RIGOROUSLY ORGANIZED IN WILLIAMSBURG.
UH, SO THEY HAVE A, A, A CHEF AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF THAT DO MEAL PLANNING AND ALL THIS STUFF.
UH, THE ONES HERE IS, IS ENTIRELY VOLUNTEER BASED, UH, WHICH IS AMAZING.
I BELIEVE THE WILLIAMSBURG ONE GETS SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING FROM THE WILLIAMSBURG HEALTH FOUNDATION.
WHICH HELPS YOU BE MORE PROFESSIONAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO I, AN OBVIOUS QUESTION THERE IS, THERE COULD BE A RESIDENT IN SOME PART OF THE COUNTY THAT COULD GET SERVICE FROM EITHER ONE.
AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT JUST DEPENDENT ON WHAT NETWORK YOU HAPPEN TO GET IN.
UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE SORT FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LIVE IN NORTH COUNTY, YOU COULD BE CONNECTED WITH THE YORK COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS, OR YOU COULD BE CONNECTED WITH THE WILLIAMSBURG ONE, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO YOUR FAMILY KNOWS AND WHO YOU CALL.
SO THAT'S THE WRAP UP FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, AND AS ALWAYS, UH, PROVIDING FOOD AND SHELTER FOR CITIZENS IN NEED HAS REMAINED THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.
THERE WERE ONE TH UH, $111,850 IN REQUESTS THIS YEAR IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS ALL, ALL ORGANIZATIONS, UH, WITH $60,000, WHICH IS A $10,000 INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
UH, IN MOST CASES, WE'VE TRIED TO ENSURE THAT THE GROUPS WITH SIMILAR ACTIVITIES HAVE RECEIVED SIMILAR FUNDING.
UH, BUT THERE'S SOME VARIATION BASED ON, ON THEIR SERVICE AREA AND THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT THEY, UH, SUPPORTED.
SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE HAD TWO NEW, UM, CANDIDATES, AND HOW MANY DID WE HAVE? DROP OFF.
SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE WALKING AS FAR.
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YOU.SO, WALT, ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE DONE A, IN THE GROUP, DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
PROBABLY THE BEST ANALYSIS I'VE SEEN, UH, IN YEARS ON HOW WE'VE SPEND MONEY ON, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, PROVIDED A LOT OF REALLY GREAT SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT HELPS DEFINE YOUR ACCOUNTING.
I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE SYMMETRY OF YOUR, OF YOUR FIRST PIE CHART.
END UP AS A OVAL
WE LET THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE BEST IN THE HELPS ALL PRESENTATION VERDICT AND HOW YORK COUNTY SPENDS HIS MONEY.
NO, ACTUALLY HE DIDN'T LISTEN AS I EXPECT.
NO, THAT'S NOT, YOU HEARD WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT I SAID VERY CLEARLY ANALYSIS ON THESE ODD OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE GIVE OUR MONEY TO.
YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT? THANK YOU WALTER, SO MUCH WATCHING THE PROGRAM.
NO, I HAVE A QUESTION UNTIL WE RAISE.
SO, UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE SORT OF THE SECOND PART OF WHAT WE THINK OF AS A COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET.
ALTHOUGH, AS AMY WILL ARTICULATE HERE, UM, A LOT OF THESE THINGS YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT HERE DON'T FIT INTO ONE CATEGORY.
THERE'S CONTRACTUAL THINGS, THERE'S BOARD COMMITMENT THINGS, AND THEN THERE'S PURELY DISCRETIONARY THINGS.
UH, BUT WE KIND OF THINK OF THESE TWO PARTS OF THE BUDGET TOGETHER.
AS WITH OTHER BUDGET ITEMS, WE FOCUS THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT ITEMS AROUND THIS, BOARD'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
HERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SUMMARY OF THOSE PRIORITIES ALONG WITH THE TOTAL AGENCY FUNDING PROPOSED FOR EACH.
THERE'S AN APPROXIMATE 7% INCREASE IN FUNDING OVER WHAT WAS ADOPTED FOR FY 23.
JUST LIKE THE COUNTY, AS WE ARE PREPARING THE BUDGET, WE RECEIVE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES FROM OUR PARTNERS SINCE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS RELEASED.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SENT UPDATES AN EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SAFETY.
THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN THE AMOUNT FOR THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA REGIONAL JAIL OH.
AS WELL AS OUR CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIAL SERVICES.
BOTH OF THESE HAVE INCREASED SINCE THE PRINTING OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE IN MAXIMIZE OUTSTANDING COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR A SMALL INCREASE TO THE PENINSULA HEALTH DISTRICT.
THE TOTAL DIFFERENCE IS AN INCREASE OF $129,400 OVER THE PROPOSED AMOUNTS WITH $116,815 OF THAT BEING JUST FOR THE JAIL.
THE TOTAL DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND WHAT THE FIGURES ARE CURRENTLY IS $129,000 AND 400.
SO THERE'S $130,000 MORE SPENDINGS PROPOSED NOW BASED ON STUFF THAT'S COME IN UPDATED SINCE WE PRINTED, SINCE WE, SINCE HE, RIGHT.
AND BUT GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE REGIONAL JAIL.
HOW MUCH OF THAT REGIONAL $116,815 IS JUST FOR THE JAIL.
SO THAT'S, SO YOU SAID IT WAS A SEVEN, 7% INCREASE OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
WAS IT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER? THE 7% INCREASE IS OVER WHAT WAS ADOPTED FOR FY 23.
OVER THE FY 23 ADOPTED FOR WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR 24.
WHAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
THE VALUE DRIVEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COULD YOU DEFINE THAT? OH, YOU'LL SEE THE THINGS WE HAVE LISTED THERE.
THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS MANY OF THESE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES YOU COULD PUT IN MORE THAN ONE CATEGORY, AND WE ATTEMPT TO LINE THEM UP WITH THE SIX STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, JUST AS A WAY TO ORGANIZE THE GROUPS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE ONES HERE IN A MINUTE WHEN I NEED US INTO THE DETAILS OF WE FIT INTO THAT GROUP, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM COULD BE IN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
SO HE'S PRETTY MUCH TAKEN EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GONNA SAY ON THIS SLIDE.
THIS CHART SHOWS, UH, OUR FOCUS REMAINS ON PUBLIC SAFETY,
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FOLLOWED BY EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.AND AS NEIL SAID, UH, WE USE SOME JUDGMENT WHEN DETERMINING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY AS SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS CAN BE SEEN IN MULTIPLE AREAS.
THESE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR WHO EXACTLY? THAT.
FOR SCHOOL SYSTEM OR FOR? IT'S, IT'S THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'LL SEE YOUR AMENDMENT OVERALL.
IT'S OVERALL ALL, SO IT'S FOR GENERAL COMMUNITY.
NONE, NONE OF THIS HAS UNNECESSARILY HAS TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THAT'S, AND WE'RE GOING TO PIVOT FROM A STRATEGIC PRIORITY FOCUS.
WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS, AS MR. MORGAN STATED, THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE, SOME THAT ARE CONTRACTUAL AND OTHERS THAT ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY.
THESE TWO ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE, THE COLONIAL COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, AS WELL AS SOCIAL SERVICES.
MANY OF THE AGENCIES THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO ARE OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS WITH WHOM WE HAVE AGREEMENTS OR CONTRACTS WITH, SUCH AS COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, WHICH HAS AN 8% INCREASE PROPOSED OVER FY 23 AND JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN FOUNDATION.
WITH FY 24 BEING YEAR NINE OF THE 10 YEAR COMMITMENT THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
HOW MUCH FUNDING DOES THE STATE PROVIDE? YORKTOWN? THAT'S NOT, THAT WAS A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S COMMITMENT? NOT REQUIRED BY THE STATE? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
WE'RE ON THE NEXT, NO KNOW, BUT I'M, I'M THAT ONE WHO SAYS HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT ITEM UNDER THE STATE.
SO YOU GOT REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
YOU HERE, YOU'RE SAYING HOW MUCH DOES THE STATE, HOW MUCH TO CLOSE.
DOES THE STATE REQUIRED BY THE STATE, DOES THE STATE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR IT? YEAH.
THE SOCIAL SERVICES OF MOST OF THE FUNDING IS FROM THE STATE.
AND THE FEDERAL MANDATE BY THE STATE IS THIS FALLS UNDER THE UNFUNDED MANDATE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND GETTING, I'M GUESSING ABOUT 2800000.0% IS WISE.
UM, THE BUDGET'S, I THINK EIGHT OR 9 MILLION OR SO FOR SOCIAL SERVICES.
SO THEY'RE ONLY GIVING US LIKE 20% OF WHAT THEY'RE NO, NO, NO.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THE COSEN IS ALSO A PARTNER, A PARTNER IN THAT.
SO THEY PAY, THEY PAY SOME OF THOSE.
BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, SO, OKAY.
THERE'S ABOUT 600, AND I THINK LAST TIME OCTOBER WAS ABOUT 660 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF, UH, UNFUNDED MANDATES BY THE STATE.
330 OF 'EM ARE, UH, SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR EDUCATION.
SO THE REST OF THEM DINNER FOR US.
MANY OF THE AGENCIES THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO, AS I STATED, UM, ARE OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS WITH, SUCH AS THE COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, I STATED WAS A 8% INCREASE, PROPOSED OVER 23 JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN FOUNDATION, THE 5 24 BEING THE NINTH YEAR OF THAT 10 YEAR COMMITMENT.
OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS CONTINUE HERE WITH THE LARGEST INCREASES HAVING BEEN MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS SUCH AS THE PENINSULA HEALTH DISTRICT REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER, AND THE PENINSULA REGIONAL JAIL.
AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO HAVE AGENCIES WHERE OUR CONTRIBUTION IS MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY NATURE.
THEY CAN BE SEEN HERE AS COMMUNITY SERVICE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND TOURISM RELATED IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHERS.
ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THE MAJORITY OF THESE HAVE REMAINED THE SAME.
WE'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE OF 1500.
THE LACKY FREE CLINIC REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL $5,000 OVER FY 23, AND WE PROPOSE TO MEET THIS REQUEST.
PENINSULA ALCOHOL SAFETY ACTION PROGRAMS REQUEST IS $10,000 OVER FY 23.
AND WE PROPOSE TO MEET THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
WE ARE PROPOSING A PARTIAL INCREASE TO 12,500.
SO THE COLLEGE IS FUNDED MAINLY THROUGH, UM, ENROLLMENT.
STATE I TUITION AND SOME CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH LEGALITY.
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SO WHAT, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THEIR FUNDING THEN? THEY USE MAINTENANCE, THEY USE IT FOR, THEY'RE USING SOME OF IT, I THINK FOR THE DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM NOW.UM, WHAT ELSE THEY SAY THEY USED? YEAH.
SO, UM, WE, I THINK JUST, UH, TWO CORRESPONDENCE PACKAGES AGO, DIDN'T WE NOT SEND OUT THE, THE PENINSULA COMMUNITY COLLEGE ANNUAL REPORT? UH, OR MAYBE EVERYBODY GOT THEIR OWN COPY.
YOU GOT YOUR OWN COPY THAT, THAT COVERS THAT IN SOME DETAIL.
UM, FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, THE, THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA LOCALITIES HAVE MADE A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION.
THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO THAT.
UM, AND THE, THEY GET, UH, A CERTAIN ALLOCATION DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE.
AND THEN, AS YOU SAID, I THINK THEIR TUITION IS THEIR SINGLE LARGEST THING.
UH, BUT THE AREA WHERE, UH, A LOT OF FOCUS IS GOING IS ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THESE DAYS.
AND SO SOME OF THE LOCAL MONEY GOES TO ENHANCE THOSE PROGRAMS. SOME GOES FOR, THEY HAVE SOME, THERE'S CERTAIN RULES ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH FACILITIES MONEY FROM THE STATE AND WE SUPPLEMENT THAT.
AND, UM, WHEN, UM, UH, IN THIS YEAR THERE, UM, THERE WAS A 20 YEAR COMMITMENT TO BUILD THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND THE NOTE PAID OFF AND THE LO THE LOCAL, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR AN INCREASE INCREASE, BUT IF THEY ASK IF WE WOULD HOLD OUR DOLLAR AMOUNT THE SAME AS IT HAD BEEN BEFORE.
AND, UM, PART OF THAT IS BEING USED FOR OP OPERATING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STUFF.
AND THEY'RE ALSO, UM, STANDING UP, UM, COLLEGE SPORTS PROGRAMS, WHICH THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A RESOURCE FOR.
UM, AND, AND PART OF THAT IS, UM, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH ENROLLMENT.
AND, UH, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT, UM, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, YOU KNOW, HAVE TROUBLE COMPETING PARTICULARLY FOR MALE STUDENTS WITH COLLEGES THAT HAVE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS. WELL, AND WELL, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS GETTING TO BE A CRITICAL ISSUE HERE IN, IN THE COUNTY.
SO WE NEED TO GET EVERY DIME WE CAN OUT OF THAT, OUT OF THAT PROGRAM TO HELP THAT.
I JUST WANNA SAY TOO, THE, UM, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT IN THE, CHAD, I THINK YOU SAW THE SAME THING I SAW LAST FRIDAY AND MEETING WITH THEM IN A NEW FACILITY AND THEIR PLAN TO DO INCUBATION THERE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, ONSITE TO SET UP, UH, PLACES FOR SMALL BUSINESS TO COME TO GET STARTED.
I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH ANY OTHER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BUT THAT LOOKED PRETTY IMPRESSIVE TO ME.
THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GETTING AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND, AND THAT INVESTMENT CAN PAY BIG DIVIDENDS.
THAT'S A VIRGINIA, BUT ANYWAY, ANYWAY, ANYTHING I SAY WAS TRUE, JUST NOT FOR THAT.
SO, BUT, BUT BACK TO
BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS WHO WE APPOINT WHO ARE THERE KIND OF OVERSEEING AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH, UH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND IT'S, UH, IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT GOOD PEOPLE ON THAT VIRGINIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD.
AND MAY AND MAY BE MR. MORGAN AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE COULD, UH, IN THE FUTURE WE COULD HAVE, UH, THE PRESIDENT OR ONE OF THE, UH, MAYBE THE, UH, PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER AND OR THE BOARD MEMBERS COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO TOM.
UH, TOM AND I HAD THE BENEFIT OF HEARING FROM DR.
BRANDON AT THE PENINSULA MAYORS AND CHAIRS MEETING, UH, MONTH BEFORE LAST SHE CAME AND PRESENTED ON HER PROGRAM.
UH, BUT YEAH, I'M SURE THEY'D, YEAH, SHE'S, THEY PRETTY CHARGED IT UP OVER THERE.
IF I CAN JUST ADD A COMMENT, THERE IS A, UM, PROGRAM, INCUBATOR PROGRAM UP THE UPPER COUNTY WILLIAMSBURG AND COUNTY FUNDED BY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
SO THAT MISSION AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND, I DON'T, WE NEED A REPORT ON HOW WELL THE PROGRAMS GOING.
THAT'S THE LAUNCHPAD, REGIONAL INCUBATOR.
YOU SEE WHAT BUT THAT ONE, THAT'S THAT NOT SOME SEPARATE ENTITY THAT IS NOT YEAH.
THESE AGENCIES ARE GONNA CONTINUE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND CONTINUING WITH A FEW OTHER KEY POINTS, THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM REQUESTED AN INCREASE OF $6,000 OVER FY 23.
WE HAVE PROPOSED AN INCREASE OF $3,000 TO $33,000 TOTAL.
OLD TOWN'S INCREASE FROM $116,755 TO $120,255 IS A DIFFERENCE OF $3,500 THAT WE PROPOSE TO MEET.
AND FINALLY, THE YORKTOWN FOUNDATION'S TALL SHIP COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED AN INCREASE OF $5,000 THAT WE ALSO PROPOSE TO MEET.
HEY AMY, IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND.
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THE TWO MEDICAL ONES, LACKEY FREE CLINIC AND ALL TOWN, UH, FROM AN ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT, WHENEVER THEY ASK FOR AN INCREASE, WE GENERALLY TRY TO MEET IT.I MEAN, THE IMAGE AND CARE THEY PROVIDE IS, IS GIGANTIC.
UH, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT PATTERN FOLLOWED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION.
AND OF ALL THESE LITTLE ONES THAT WE GET INVOLVED IN, I KNOW EVERYONE HAS ONES THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO THEIR HEART.
THE TALL SHIPS COMMITTEE ONE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT IT, IT'S PROBABLY GOT THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENTS.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME, UH, THEY BRING ONE MORE TALL SHIP TO YOUR TOWN, YOU KNOW, THE MULTIPLIER EFFECT OF THAT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
SO WE JUST DO A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THEM.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOURISM PROMOTION THING.
AND THAT FUNDING GOES TO PAY FOR THE SHIPS TO COME IN, RIGHT? YES.
I KNOW OUR FOLKS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB NEGOTIATING.
THEY'RE REALLY CLEVER ON HOW THEY GET SOME OF THESE SHIPS IN.
THEY'LL CALL UP AND GO, HEY, YOU'RE IN NEW YORK.
WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN HERE FOR LOWER PRICE? AND IF YOU JUST CAME STRAIGHT HERE AND THIS, THEY'RE VERY CLEVER.
THIS IS THE POT SWEETENER FOR THAT.
THEY'RE ALSO VERY GOOD AT GETTING THEM FROM, UH, NORFOLK.
HARBOR FEST IN TOTAL, FOR EVERYTHING I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS EVENING, THERE IS AN APPROXIMATE INCREASE OF 7% OVER WHAT WAS ADOPTED FOR FY 23.
BOTTOM LINE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE REGIONAL JAIL AND THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY THAT INCREASES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN THAT OF THE GENERAL FUND OVERALL PICTURE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG PILLARS IN THE TENT AS FAR AS INCREASES.
WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPERIENCES, SOME OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU ALSO.
WE, WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT, BUT WE ALL HISTORICALLY EXERCISED SOME DISCRETION IN THESE LINE ITEMS. SO, WELL, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE GOT AWAY FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING OVER THE $800 OR $500 AND, AND BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TAKEN UP JUST WAY TOO MUCH TIME OVER A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND WE ENDED UP WITH THIS REALLY HUGE BUDGET WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE HANDED IT OFF TO FOLKS.
UH, WE'VE GIVEN SEVERAL GUIDANCE ON IT.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE INPUTS VARIOUS TIMES FROM BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND, AND SO, UM, UNLESS SOMEBODY COMPLAINS OR SEES SOMETHING THEY WANT TO ADD OR ADJUST TO, THEY SPEAK UP NOW OR, OR THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
UM, I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR.
AND I THINK YOU'VE HIT, UH, YOU HIT A GOOD NOTE, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION AND PARTICIPATION IN THESE THINGS IS PART OF WHO WE ARE AND HELPS TO FIND OUR, OUR PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, AND I THINK, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF RETURN WE GET, UH, JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST GOVERNMENT TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
IT WOULD BE WAY MORE THAN WHAT IT, I MEAN, WAY MORE, UH, BE A FACTOR OF TWO OR THREE TIMES, UH, OF THIS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED BY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, AND UM, AND THIS IS GREAT.
SO I'M, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
AND LET'S FACE IT, A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BETTER EXPERTISE TO EXECUTE THAN THE GOVERNMENT EVER.
WELL, SO YOU'RE VERY EFFICIENT, A LOT MORE EFFICIENT AT IT.
SO I ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE WERE, WE WERE WISE TO MOVE IT INTO A COMMITTEE FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANTS THAT WALT ACRES AND HIS UH, GROUP HAVE WORKED ON OVER THE YEARS.
AND AS YOU SAID, THIS IS A VERY WELL PRESENTED, UH, DIAGRAM OF HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT AND, AND, UH, WHAT THEY, WHO THEY SERVE.
UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD A COST OF LIVING INCREASE ON A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE WALT'S BUDGET BY $5,000.
IF ANYBODY, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE YOUR IN CONSIDERATE FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR.
NOT JUST THIS BUDGET OR BUDGET, THIS BUDGET THAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD.
WE FROM 50 TO 60, WE WENT FROM 50 TO 60.
INCREASE, INCREASE $10,000 ALREADY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
YOU DON'T ME GIVE, OH, I DON'T CARE.
THIS ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE A TWO YEAR INFLATION, WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO WAS A TWO YEAR INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.
SO, I MEAN, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO IS FINE.
JUST WANNA, WELL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OUT JUST FISHING FOR INCREASING.
SO WE'RE, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS GOOD.
YOU'VE PROVIDED A GOOD, UH, IF YOU EXPLANATION OF IT, YEAH, WE DID $10,000, I WOULD, I WOULD BE, UH, IN FAVOR OF ADDING THAT NOT TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WHAT WALTER ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, BUT TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
FOLLOWING YEAR MIGHT BE, MIGHT
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BE GOOD TO MAKE A YES, I AGREE WITH YOU.AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO IT AND THE FACT OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE, THAT WE SERVE QUALITY OF QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, YES.
WELL, THAT WILL BE FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, NOT THIS CYCLE.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ONE RIGHT WHEN WE GET READY TO GO INTO THAT, THAT CYCLE.
DID STEVE, MR. RON, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU TOO.
YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE, AND GO, GO AHEAD AND, AND MENTION THAT TOO.
CAUSE FOLLOW UP CUZ I NOTICED WE, UH, ROBUSTLY ARE FUNDING HIM THIS YEAR AND WE WENT FRIDAY TO THE PRESENTATION.
JUST NEW OFFICE SPACE AND THE INCUBATOR.
AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK IT'S A GOOD, IT, IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE COUNTY TO MAKE WITH OUR LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
CUZ IT WILL HELP GROW SMALL BUSINESSES.
IT WILL GIVE PEOPLE THAT FIRST STEP INTO HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS AND GET STARTED.
IT WILL GIVE THEM SPACE TO MEET WITH CLIENTS.
IT WILL REMOVE A LOT OF BARRIERS THAT SOME, YOU KNOW, VERY, AND PEOPLE HAVE THAT, THAT THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXERCISE OTHERWISE.
SO, AND, AND THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE A TOP NOTCH JOB, JOB DOWN THERE.
IT LOOKS PROFESSIONAL, YOU WALK INTO IT, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLIENTS COME THERE WITH YOU AND, AND, AND WE WILL SEE NEW BUSINESSES RIGHT FROM THAT THAT WE WOULDN'T SEE OTHERWISE.
AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NEW LOCATION OF THE, UH, CHAMBER, WHICH IS LOCATED WHERE, WHICH IS LOCATED.
IT'S, IT'S THE MIDATLANTIC BUILDING.
MIDATLANTIC BY ANDREAS RESTAURANT.
AN OLD TIME FAVORITE HERE IN THE COUNTY.
SO, SO RIGHT THERE, PRETTY PROMINENT.
WHERE ARE WE NOW? REAL QUICK, TERESA? SO TAKE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE, THE THOUGHT ABOUT ON THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE ON INCREASING THAT MAY MAYBE LOOK ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, WHAT DOES AN INFLATIONARY INCREASE LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THAT, GETTING TOO FAR AHEAD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF USING THAT AS, AS, AS AS GUIDELINES.
THIS GUY RIGHT HERE DOES THAT.
WELL I WAS HOPING HE WAS HEARING ME WHILE I WAS
WELL, THERE'S TWO ASPECTS TO THAT.
THERE'S ALWAYS TWO ASPECTS TO THIS THING.
ONE IS THE INFLATIONARY INCREASE AND THEN THERE'S THE NEED.
IT'S GOTTA BE, IT'S GOTTA BE A NEED AND IT'S GOTTA FIT INTO OUR, OUR STRATEGY AND, UH, OUR PLANNING.
SO KIND OF, KIND OF LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE, THE WHOLE PICTURE.
NOW ONE OF THE THINGS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT IS, UH, OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HAD TO PROTECT SOME OF THE STRUCTURES HERE IN YORKTOWN.
AND UM, I KNOW, WHAT IS IT? THE DOORS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION HAVE THE BUILDING DOWN THERE.
THAT'S, UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, I WILL JUST SAY IT, THE ORGANIZATION IS SOMETIMES AS LEAST EFFICIENT AS, AS THEY CAN GET.
CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FILE OR GET GRANTS OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE CAN'T HAVE A BUILDING LIKE THAT HISTORICAL VALUE FALLING DOWN.
SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? IT'S, IT'S COMING UP I THINK.
IS THAT IN SOMEWHERE IN HERE? IT'S A COMFORT BRA, CHAPTER OF THREE DOORS, WHATEVER THEY ARE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT $9,400.
AS LONG AS WE'RE, CAUSE I REMEMBER ONE YEAR WE'RE SITTING HERE GOING LIKE, WHERE'S WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY HERE? YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO CLOSE ONE EYE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S ON BOARD.
DON'T EXACTLY HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO GO CHASING PEOPLE AROUND SAYING, DID YOU WANT TO, DID YOU WANT US TO SPEND SOME MONEY? OH NO, WE HADN'T DONE IT.
WE HADN'T DONE IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
THAT BUILDING WOULD'VE COLLAPSED OR, OR WE HAD, WE'D NOT, WE'D NOT BE USING THAT BUILDING FOR ANYTHING.
SO THEY PLAY A BIG PART IN, IN OUR CELEBRATION AND OUR IDENTITY HERE.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PART THEN IF Y'ALL ARE DONE WITH THAT PART.
THANK YOU RAG TO JOIN TERESA UP HERE GOING UP.
SO I GUESS THIS, THIS PART OF THE WORK SESSION WE ENVISIONED AS THE SORT OF THE BROADEST, UH, SORT OF MORE FOCUS ON THE BIG PICTURE FOR THRUST OF THIS BUDGET, BOTH ON THE PROPOSED EXPENDITURE AND REVENUE SIDE.
AND, UM, TERESA AND GREG ARE GONNA SPLIT UP THE PRESENTATION AND I'M THE COLOR COMMENTATOR.
SO LIKE, LIKE NEIL SAID, WE JUST WANTED TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO SOME OF THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURE, UM, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY CONCENTRATING ON THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WHILE I WANTED TO, WHILE WE'RE GONNA CONCENTRATE ON THE GENERAL FUND, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT THE TOTAL BUDGET WAS, WAS TWO 44 MILLION.
IT IS NET OF TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS AND IT INCLUDES ALL FUNDS, CAPITAL FUNDS, HANG ON, HANG ON.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, PEOPLE'S EARS JUST KIND OF PLUG UP.
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OKAY.SO YOU SAID $244 MILLION? YES SIR.
I WANT YOU TO TELL ME IT'S 244 MILLION NET OF TRANSFERS.
SO ALRIGHT, IT'S 285 MILLION TOTAL.
THEN WE HAVE 41 MILLION THAT, THAT TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS.
YOU HAVE TO SUBTRACT IT SO YOU DON'T SUBTRACT THAT SO YOU DON'T DOUBLE COUNT IT.
SO WE, I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, THAT WHAT WE REALLY LOOKING ATS $174 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH RUNS GOVERNMENT AND THE REST OF THAT MONEY JUST GETS TRANSFERRED AROUND AND NO, THE ENTERPRISE, LET'S TRANSFER THROUGH YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE YOUR SEWER FUND, YOUR SOLID WASTE FUND, WHICH YOU'RE DRIVING BY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BIG PIECE HERE.
BIG PIECE IS 107 HUNDRED $74 MILLION AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA CONCENTRATE ON.
THE UM, TOTAL BUDGET IS SMALLER THAN LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IS SMALLER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING IS NOT IN THERE THIS YEAR.
SO OVERALL THE TOTAL COUNTY BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN IT WAS.
THE GENERAL FUND IS HIGHER, BUT THE TOTAL BUDGET IS SMALLER.
AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT CUZ SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THAT RECENTLY.
THERE SEEMS TO BE, UH, A LITTLE CONFUSION ON THAT POINT BECAUSE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, YOUR FIRST YEAR APPROPRIATIONS GETS ADDED TO YOUR TOTAL BUDGET.
SO THE YEAR WE'RE IN INCLUDED THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING AND THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, WHILE WE HAVE CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS, THERE'S NOTHING OF THAT SCALE.
SO THE OVERALL BUDGET APPEARS TO BE SMALLER SIMPLY BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS SMALLER, WHICH IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION THAN HOW MUCH IS THE GENERAL FUND GONNA GO UP, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ON, ON THE ONE HAND YOUR EXPENSES, EXPENDITURES WAS DOWN, BUT YOUR TAXES ARE UP.
SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THAT? WELL, NO, THAT IS NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT.
SO THE CAPITAL, THE CAPITAL, THE SIX YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, UHHUH,
SO WHEN YOU APPROPRIATE THAT FIRST YEAR, UH, THE YEAR WE'RE IN FOR THE SCHOOLS, HAD SEAFORD ELEMENTARY AND FOR THE COUNTY HAD THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING.
SO COMPARED TO THE YEAR BEFORE, OR THE YEAR WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE YEAR WE'RE IN, HAPPENED TO HAVE A PARTICULARLY LARGE ONE TIME APPROPRIATION OF THAT CAPITAL MONEY.
NOW, A GOOD BIT OF THAT WAS BORROWED MONEY.
SO, SO THE MONEY THAT CAME IN WAS SOME 70 OR 80% OF THAT WAS BORROWED SOME MONEY.
SO, SO THE RAISED TAX, THE TAX AND SPIN PART IS MOSTLY A GENERAL FUND DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GOING.
BUT IT'S, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
LOT PEOPLE WOULD BE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I, THAT'S WHY I, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE CAN HAVE ALL THIS WHOPPING FLOW OF MONEY COMING AROUND AND INCLUDING EVEN STATE TRANSFERS OR WHATEVER, AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A HUGE SUM.
BUT IN TRUTH, THE FOCUS IS ON OPERATIONAL FOR, FOR US, THE BIG PIECES.
AND FOR THE CITIZENS OUT THERE, IT'S THE GENERAL FUND.
SO, WELL, HOW MUCH OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF WHAT WE DOING NOW, THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND ALL THAT, THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE TO RAISE IT OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, SEWER FEES AND WATER AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS TOGETHER.
BUT AGAIN, THE, KEEP IT SIMPLE, IT'S JUST A HUNDRED, LIKE, IT SLIDE $174 MILLION.
I TEND TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL, BECAUSE I TEND TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND AS THE, AS THE BELLWEATHER, BECAUSE CAPITAL FUNDS, THAT'S PRETTY FLUID DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AT ANY GIVEN YEAR.
BUT IT'S THE, THE GENERAL FUND TENDS TO STAY PRETTY STICKY AND GROW AS OPPOSED TO THAT'S YOUR BEST YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON.
YOUR GENERAL AS OPPOSED TO THE TOTAL BUDGET.
AND THE BIG THING THAT I THINK FOR ME, OKAY, IS WHEN I SEE THAT GENERAL FUND, THE BIG, THE BIG PIECES IN THERE, THINGS LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY, EDUCATION CONTRIBUTIONS, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS, ALWAYS WATCHING THOSE TWO BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE, UM, YOU CAN GET, YOU CAN GET SO OVERWHELMED WITH A LOT OF THE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES OF WHERE THE MONEY'S BEING SPENT THAT YOU GO CHASING THOSE.
YOU, YOU MISS THE BIG PICTURE ABOUT WHAT ARE WE SPENDING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY? THAT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND 9 1 1 9 1 1, THAT WHOLE EMERGENCY STUFF.
AND THEN YOU COME OVER TO PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WELL, WE GOT A GREAT PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM.
HOW MUCH ARE WE CONTRIBUTING? AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE ONLY NUMBER TWO IN THAT STATE'S THE NUMBER ONE CONTRIBUTION AND LITTLE BEAUTY AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THEN YOU GET TO THE, WHAT IS IT, THE 60% OR SO, OR MAYBE, MAYBE LESS
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64 OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.THEN YOU GOTTA GO DOWN IN THERE.
WHAT DOES IT COST US TO RUN THE, TO DO THE, THE PERSONNEL, TRACK PERSONNEL? WHAT DOES IT COST US TO MANAGE THE SYSTEM? YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, IT'S TO ME, WE'RE TALKING TO THE PUB.
YOU CAN TALK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CUZ WE CAN SIT HERE AND, AND CHASE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATS AROUND AND TRY TO TRACK DOWN.
BUT THE CITIZENS OUT HERE ARE GONNA HAVE TROUBLE DIGESTING THIS STUFF.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND TRY TO EXPLAIN IT TO 'EM.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF WATCHING THE, UH, THE ARGO, IF YOU WILL, OF THE FINANCIAL WORLD.
CUZ SEE, WE THROW IT OUT THERE, MAN.
I DON'T WANNA GET MY CANDLE OUT AND THE HAT AND, YOU KNOW, START HUMMING.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CULT LANGUAGE IS.
YOU MADE THIS COMMENT ABOUT THIS DIVISION BEING SUPER, WHERE DO YOU GET, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS? WHAT, WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE JUST MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE OUTSTANDING SCHOOL DIVISION.
THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES TO FIND OUT.
WAL HOLY MICHAEL, WHERE DO YOU GET SOME OF 'EM? THAT'S B******T ABOUT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT, BUT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM HERE.
WELL, THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS TO BACK UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I, I GOT TONS OF FACTS.
HOW ABOUT YOU? WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
YOU WANT TO RAISE THAT QUESTION? I YOU WANT THE STATE FACTS OR DO YOU WANT THE, THE COMMERCIAL FACTS? WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? BECAUSE I WANT THE STATE, A STATE.
YOU GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE RATING COUNTY.
YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE RATINGS FOR THE STATE.
I WANNA SEE THE CURRICULUM OF WHAT THE, THE CURRICULUM'S ALL ABOUT RELATIVE TO ACADEMICS, VIS-A-VIS SOCIAL KINDS OF THINGS.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET THE CULT LIGHT OUT, YOU KNOW.
NO, WE'VE GOT A GREAT EDUCATION SYSTEM HERE.
WE HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM.
RANK GOING THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION.
WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT ARE RANKED HIGHEST IN THE NATION.
YOU'VE GOT A BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL RIGHT HERE IN TAB.
THAT'S ONE OF HOW MANY SCHOOLS? WE HAVE ONE OF 25 IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE CHANGED THAT.
RIGHT? THAT'S THE SAME ELEMENTARY.
AND WE ALSO HAD, UH, WE HAD ONE ON, UH, UH, OFF OF, UH, LAKESIDE DRIVE.
WHAT'S THE SCHOOL? UM, BETH BETHEL.
THAT WAS THE OTHER WINNER I THINK, WASN'T IT? UM, IT WON, UH, YEARS AGO.
AND, AND THERE'S ONLY SEVEN IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA AND YET WE GET IT HERE.
TAP HIGH SCHOOL WAS RANKED, UH, IN THE TOP, UM, OUT OF 27,000 SCHOOLS.
IT'S BEEN RANKED BY THE, BY THE STATE, UH, OR NATIONALLY BY, UH, UH, BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE.
WE'RE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
WE GOT A GREAT EDUCATION SYSTEM.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION.
WE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND, MY KIDS ARE THE PRODUCT OF THE SCHOOL.
NEVER SAY WHO IS GREAT, BUT GO AHEAD.
NO, YOU WENT, STARTED THIS TAKE YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED WHAT YOU HEAR FROM YOUR, YOUR APPOINTEE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
JUST LIKE MOST OF US AROUND THIS TABLE.
TAKE FOR GRANTED WHAT THE NO SCHOOL BOARD, BOARD I DON'T TAKE FOR GRANTED.
I, I SEE WHAT I GET IN THE FACTS FROM THE STATE.
AND WHEN I GO OVER THERE AND I CAN TALK TO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM, I CAN TALK TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT, I CAN TALK TO THE PRINCIPALS AND I CAN TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IS GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU DON'T WANNA CALL FACTS AS FACTS AND DESCRIBES, DESCRIBES OUR POSITION OF THE SCHOOLS IN THIS VIRGINIA SCHOOL SYSTEM.
BRING ME THE FACTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M GONNA GO BRING YOU, GO TALK TO, TO YOUR OWN SUPERVISOR AND FIGURE IT OUT IF YOU CAN DO IT TO NO, I CAN DO IT.
BUT WAL YOU'RE ASKING ME THE BOARD SUPERVISOR.
WHY DON'T YOU GO TALK TO YOUR SUPERINTENDENT IF YOU'LL, I MEAN TO YOUR GET FROM HIM.
BUT THEY ATTEMPTED TO SENSE TO ME BEFORE QUERYING SOME OF THE STUFF THEY HAVE UNDER WELL, YOU, YOU JUST KEEP THROWING SPIRITS AT HIM.
IT'S A, IT'S A NATIONAL ISSUE TO OKAY.
NO, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I'M GONNA SIT HERE AND DEFEND OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM CUZ I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
GENERAL FUND'S, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
GENERAL FUND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES, THE THREE PRIORITIES AND THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
UM, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, OUR SCHOOL SUPPORT, AND ALSO MAINTAINING, UM, OUR CASH CAPITAL, UM, CONTRIBUTION.
SO I WANTED TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UM, INTO EACH OF THOSE THREE AREAS WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
SO, EMPLOYEE CON CON, UM, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION ROSE IS GONNA GO OVER LIKE SPECIFICS OF, OF WHAT IT MEANS TO INDIVIDUALS.
MY GOAL HERE TONIGHT IS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT, WHAT THE EFFECT OF, UM, WHAT IS IN EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION IS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND, AND THE EFFECT OF THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE LARGEST GROWTH AREA IN, UM, IN THE BUDGET.
WE'RE STILL IN A REALLY TIGHT LABOR MARKET.
AND SO THE RECOMMENDED 5% AND $750 INCREASE, ALONG WITH ALL THE BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THE VS FICA, ALL THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IS 3.6 MILLION ON ALMOST 3.7
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IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.UM, AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, BACK IN NOVEMBER, UM, AS A RESULT OF REACTING TO SOME OTHER, OTHER NEIGHBORING COUNTIES,
SO, UM, THAT IS AN ONGOING EXPENSE THAT DOES NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
UM, IN ADDITION, UM, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET DID ALLOW, OR Y'ALL DID, AS LONG AS WE MET CERTAIN CRITERIA, WE, UM, WE, Y'ALL ALLOWED A $750 RAISE IN JANUARY.
SO THAT SUPPLEMENTAL RAISE NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO IT IS AN ONGOING EXPENSE NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED.
UM, HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TREND IN, IN EVERYTHING HEALTH INSURANCE IS GOING UP AND THAT'S ABOUT A $575,000, UM, ADJUSTMENT IN THIS BUDGET.
SO THAT $3.6 MILLION BUMP UP, WHAT, WHAT A PERCENT INCREASE IS THAT PLEASE? UM, IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE, UH, ROSE 5% ROSE ROSE'S GOT A SLIDE THAT SHOWS YOU THAT DETAIL.
IT RANGES FROM 7.5% TO THE LOWEST PAID PEOPLE TO FIVE POINT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING PERCENT FOR THE HIGHER.
THAT'S A PIECE THAT HAS THE 5% PLUS THE 7 50 50 AND ALL THE RELAYING STUFF.
SO SHE'S GOT DETAIL, SHE'S GOT THE ACTUAL DETAILS OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE ITSELF.
THE, THE CORRECT, THE DRIVER BEHIND THIS IS TO COMPENSATE PEOPLE FAIRLY RELATIVE TO THEIR EXPERTISE THAT THEY COULD GO ELSEWHERE, WHETHER IT BE PRIVATE INDUSTRY OR, OR OTHER, OTHER LOCALITIES.
SO HOW SO IN DOING THAT, HOW, HOW, HOW ARE WE PERFORMING IN THAT AREA THEN? OR THAT, DOES THAT MAKE US COMPARABLE? DOES, ARE WE STILL BEHIND? WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET CAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS RELEASING THEIR BUDGET AND CONSUMERS AND AS SOON THEY SEE OURS AND THEY, THEN THEY ADJUST IT RIGHT NOW.
UH, FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE MEDIA SO FAR, UH, WE'RE MAYBE SLIGHTLY BELOW THE MIDPOINT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE, THIS IS REASONABLY COMPETITIVE.
UH, WE DID HAVE THE SMALL INCREASE DURING MID-YEAR THAT Y'ALL AUTHORIZED.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UH, THE, THE ONE SPECIFIC METRIC I KNOW IS WHEREAS WE'RE PROPOSING 5% AND $750, UH, MY, MY COLLEAGUE IN JAMES CITY COUNTY PROPOSED 5% AND 15, 1500, WELL, 1505%, 1500 NOW AND THE 1500 THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING ON APRIL 1ST.
UH, SO, SO THERE, JAMES CITY'S A PERCENT AND A HALF MORE THAN US.
BUT YOU COULD SAY, WELL PART OF THAT'S MAKING UP FOR THE, THE LITTLE BIT WE DID IN JANUARY.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING, UH, CHARTS THAT ROSE IS GONNA SHOW YOU IS WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES COME FROM.
ONE ADVANTAGE WE HAVE IN YORK COUNTY IS OUR LABOR SHED COMES FROM EVERY DIRECTION.
WE'RE SORT OF CONVENIENT FROM WILLIAMSBURG, GLOUCESTER, NEWPORT, NEWS HAMPTON.
AND SO WE CAN RECRUIT FROM MM-HMM.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE ADVANTAGE OVER SOME OF THE OTHERS.
COMMUTE IS A, A TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE QUALITY.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S TANGIBLE BASED UPON A MONEY GAS YOU SPEND GETTING FROM POINT A POINT B.
IT MAY BE CHEAPER TO DRIVE HERE.
THAT MAKES UP SOME OF, AND ALSO INTANGIBLE IN THAT IT JUST MAY BE A BETTER RIDE INTO WORK EVERY DAY THAN TRYING TO DRIVE, DRIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL DRIVE PEOPLE AS WELL.
UM, RE RETAINING EXPERIENCED KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL LEARNED THAT AND WHATEVER WALKS OF LIFE THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.
SO THIS INVESTMENT MAKES SENSE CUZ WE CAN ONLY INVEST FOR SO MUCH, BUT IT, IT, IT'LL COST SO MUCH MORE TO LOSE PEOPLE, BRING NEW PEOPLE ON AND RETRAIN THEM THAN RETAINING THE TALENT WE HAVE TODAY.
SO HERE'S OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE COMPARED TO THE OTHER AREAS.
WHAT, JAMES CITY COUNTY? IS THAT SOMETHING WE GOT A WHOLE PRESENTATION ON? I WANNA ASK THAT QUESTION.
I JUST, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE WASN'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
THE PLAN WAS THIS WAS THE MONEY PART.
NO, I JUST, I DON'T HAVE, I KNEW SHE HAD 'EM SO
THIS IS JUST WHAT, I'M JUST JUMPING AHEAD.
I JUST TELL Y'ALL THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.
SO, UM, SO THE NEXT PRIORITY IS THE SCHOOL FUNDING.
SO, YOU KNOW, NEIL AND, AND THE SUPERINTENDENT HAVE WORKED TOGETHER, UM, TO COME UP WITH, UM, THE INCREASE.
AND THE INCREASE IS $2.35 MILLION.
AND JUST LIKE THE COUNTY COMPENSATION IS A BIG, A BIG ISSUE FOR THEM AS WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH AND SCHOOL SECURITY.
THOSE ARE THOSE, THEIR PRIORITIES AND THEIR BUDGET TO HELP THEM.
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UM, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT INFLATION, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE INFLATION LINE IS THERE.SO WHILE WE'RE INCREASING THE SCHOOL FUNDING MM-HMM.
THE STATE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS DONE PRETTY GOOD IN, UM, SUPPLYING SCHOOL WITH FUNDING.
SO IT'S PUT LESS OF A BURDEN ON US.
BUT, UM, THERE IS STILL AN INCREASE IN, IF WE JUMP OFF THIS SLIDE HERE, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE.
I THINK THAT PART ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION.
SO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN WHAT THE RED LINE, I MEAN ON JUST ON THAT YEAR, THIS YEAR, THIS LAST YEAR, 2024, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 69,000 AND THE LINE BEING DOWN WELL BELOW IT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE INFLATION DIFFERENCE FROM 2016 FORWARD.
UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WERE JUST NOMINAL INFLATION, BUT NOW INFLATION HAS BEEN WHAT, SEVEN, EIGHT, 10%.
AND SO WHILE WE'VE INCREASED THE REVENUE OR THE, THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THEM, THE, THE VALUE OF THAT MONEY HAS GONE DOWN.
IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP.
I MEAN THAT TO ME IS, THAT'S A REAL SIGNIFICANT, YOU WANNA SEE THE IMPACT OF INFLATION THAT'S 2016.
AND AS LIKE, LIKE NEIL SAID, MOST OF IT'S COME BETWEEN 2020 FORWARD WHEN, WHEN INFLATION IS REALLY GONNA, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO TERESA, WHAT, WHAT BOTHERS ME LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, AND I COULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S A SIMILAR SLIDE LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND, IF, IF I'M READING IT RIGHT FROM 16 TO NOW, AND LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SAY THAT BAR CHART ON 16 WAS $15 MILLION WE'RE, WE'VE LOOKING AT IT LIKE A 16% INCREASE OVER THE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS IN, IN FUNDING THERE.
AND IT'S, IT'S A STEADY INCREASE.
IT MILLION HERE, MILLION THERE, BUT IT'S A STEADY INCREASE.
I MEAN, AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES UNSUSTAINABLE.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU PROTECT THAT FIVE YEARS.
WHAT WHAT WE, WE EXPECT TO BE PAYING IN, IN FACT, DO YOU DO ANY FUTURE PROTECTIONS TO SEE WHERE AT SOME POINT IT'S GOTTA FLATTEN NOTE OR EVEN START TO COME DOWN AND WE CAN'T JUST ALWAYS INCREASE EVERY YEAR, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY.
SO I DON'T IF I MIGHT INJECT, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT IT AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND AND OUR, OUR TOTAL CONTRIBUTION AND, UM, THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING IN THE, YOU KNOW, 40% OF GENERAL FUND GROWTH TO THE SCHOOLS MM-HMM.
RIGHT? AND SO, I MEAN, IT'S SUSTAINABLE TO THE EXTENT THAT THE OVERALL ECONOMIC BASE OF THE COUNTY IS SUSTAINABLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DEBATE ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE 10 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, OF COURSE.
RIGHT? BUT THE, THE, THE, THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY IS LESS THAN 1%.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE A FAST GROWING COUNTY ANYMORE WHERE WE'RE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE IN TO BRING MORE REVENUE IN AND SO FORTH.
BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REAL GROWTH IN DOLLARS HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEVEL OF EFFORT MAINTENANCE REALLY IS, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
GOT A MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE.
SO THE, THE WAY I THINK OF THIS IS THAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE CRUISE FOR A LONG TIME WITH NO INFLATION, BASICALLY ZERO.
OH, WELL, IT WASN'T ZERO, BUT IT WAS REALLY LOW.
AND THAT LAID, THAT MADE BUDGET OR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT REALLY SIMPLE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SEE.
YOU'RE GONNA BUY SOMETHING, YOU'RE GONNA JUST ADD THAT ON AND THAT'S IT.
BUT WHEN YOU NOW HAVE TO THINK OF ALL THE, THIS IS, AND THIS IS WHERE IT REALLY HURTS, THIS IS YOU CAN SEE WHERE PAIN OCCURS.
SO YOU, YOU WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR YOU WANNA BUILD A SCHOOL OR YOU WANNA REFURBISH THE SCHOOL OR YOU GONNA BUY SOMETHING BIG AND THEN YOU GOTTA GO GET THE MONEY TO DO THIS.
THE BUILDINGS STILL GONNA NEED BE NEEDED.
THE ROOF'S STILL GONNA BE NEEDED.
THE FIRE, I MEAN THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER ELSE, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE GONNA BE NEEDED AND YOU GOTTA BUY 'EM, YOU GOTTA BUY THE MATERIAL, YOU GOTTA GET ALL THAT STUFF.
WHY? IS BECAUSE OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE STUFF IS.
AND TWO, THAT'S, THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE RAISING THEIR RATES, THEY'RE GETTING, THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE COSTING MORE, THE MATERIALS COSTING MORE.
I MEAN, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
NOW IF YOUR CITIZENS, IF THE CONSTITUENCY THAT WHERE YOU LIVE, IF THEY DON'T GET A RAISE IN THEIR SALARY TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, THEN THE FOLKS THAT STAY WHERE THEIR SALARY STAYS, LIKE FIXED INCOME, UH, FOLKS MM-HMM.
THEY DON'T GET ANY COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHERE POVERTY STARTS TO INCREASE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT GAP UP HERE.
THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE THINGSS COSTING MORE HAMBURGER, BREAD, EGGS, UH, GASOLINE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, OF COURSE INFLATION MEASURES ARE IMPERFECT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HIT THE EVERYBODY THE SAME WAY.
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A FIXED HOUSING PAYMENT OR MM-HMM.BUT STEVEN, TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT, I I I THINK PROBABLY ALMOST ANY YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE TWO BIGGEST GROWTH ITEMS, UH, ARE PUBLIC SAFETY AND EDUCATION AND AS PERCENTAGES OF WHATEVER NEW MONEY THERE IS IN THE GENERAL FUND, THOSE ARE ALWAYS ONE AND TWO MM-HMM.
UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY GROWTH PRIMARILY IS OUR SALARY ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS ARGUABLY 75% INFLATION, MAYBE 25% REAL.
AND SO THAT'S LIKE THREE POINT SOMETHING MM-HMM.
SO THOSE TWO THINGS COMBINED ARE 65% OF ALL THE NEW MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE PROJECT NEXT YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR.
BUT THE SCHOOL PART PROPORTIONALLY IS, UH, 2.3 OUT OF 8.9 MILLION.
WHICH IS WHAT, 30%, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
BUT, AND ONE DRIVES THE OTHER.
UM, AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE.
AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIT A CEILING AT SOME POINT BECAUSE TO, BECAUSE, UM, TIME NAIL NAIL THE FORM OF THE HEAD.
NOBODY IS GETTING THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT IN THEIR MERIT INCREASES, EVEN WITH THEIR BONUSES THAT, THAT REALLY ADDRESSES INFLATION.
UM, EVERYBODY IS, IS THEIR, THEIR RAISES ARE BELOW WHAT, WHAT INFLATION IS.
SO AS WE TAKE MORE TO FUND THESE THINGS, IT, IT'S EVEN A MORE OF AN IMPACT.
CUZ EVEN WITH THEIR RAISE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE STILL LOSING MONEY.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE THE LOWEST TAX MAJOR FULL SERVICE LOCALITY TO BEGIN WITH.
AND FOLKS OUGHT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS.
WE HAVE A VERY LOW TAX RATES IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND, AND, AND FIND FULL SERVICE COUNTY, MR. MORGAN, A COUNTY THAT PROVIDES ALL THE SERVICES ON A PROFESSIONAL BASIS THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES.
SO THE REAL DISTINCTION I'M MAKING IS THOSE COMMUNITIES LIKE IS WHITE AND GLOUCESTER THAT HAVE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS MM-HMM.
WHEREAS FOR US, IT'S THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY ORGANIZATION.
AND YOU KNOW, AS AN OLD GUY, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I CALL 9 1 1 A PROFESSIONAL'S GONNA BE AT MY HOUSE IN FIVE MINUTES.
AND NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THESE SERVICES, BUT WE ARE COMPENSATING THEM AT A INCENTIVE LEVEL TO, UH, TAKE EXTRA CLASSES, BUT GET, GET EDUCATION, BECOME EVEN MORE PROFESSIONAL.
WHAT WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR A BUDGET, I MEAN, OBJECTIVELY WE HAVE A VERY LOW TAX RATE COMPARED TO OUR PEERS.
AND I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT NUMBERS HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK THREE, FIVE YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GET READY FOR THAT OR FLATTEN IT OUT, BRING IT OUT? WHAT ARE WE AND AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THAT QUESTION IS, IN FACT, I WAS GONNA SAY IT IN MY REMARKS, IS THE CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US IS TO ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE LONG TERM.
RIGHT? IT'S SO EASY TO JUST SAY NEXT YEAR COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, CAN WE BANDAID THIS, CAN WE FIX THAT? THE REAL CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US IS ARE WE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY'S GONNA BE LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW? MM-HMM.
WE'RE ONLY $500,000 ABOVE LAST YEAR.
BUT WHAT ABOUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT ROLLS INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, SORT OF, WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, WHICH IS OUR CASH FUNDING FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR, OUR CASH FUNDING FOR THE, FOR THE C I P D.
AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK BEFORE NEIL GOT HERE, THE, THE CIP P C IN 2016 WAS VERY LOW.
UM, OF COURSE IN 21 WITH, WITH, UM, COVID, WE HAD TO, WE SLOWED IT DOWN FOR THAT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE'VE KEPT, AND IT HELPS MAINTAIN THE BUILDINGS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE, THE DEBT.
SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS THE, WHAT THIS IS, IS THE CASH PAYGO FUNDING MM-HMM.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE USE IS SURPLUS.
THAT'S SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDING.
WE HAVE DEBT THAT WE USE IN THE CIP P WE HAVE SOME RESERVES THAT ARE IN THE CIP P YOU
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KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OVER IN RESERVES.AND THAT'S, THIS IS JUST A PART OF BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN A GOOD SUSTAINABLE C I P PLAN.
SO, UM, AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE DETERMINE ALL THESE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY, WE PIVOT OVER TO HOW WE PAY FOR THEM
UM, SO, SO BASICALLY THE REVENUE, UM, IN THE GENERAL FUND IS REALLY DRIVEN BY THREE SOURCES.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR REAL ESTATE, WHICH INCLUDES, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE JUST A LITTLE BIT IN THIS, YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY AND YOUR CONSUMER TAXES.
THOSE THREE REVENUE SOURCES ARE YOUR MAJOR SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE HAD UP, UM, THAT NEIL, WHEN YOU DID THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS TO WHERE, UM, ALL THE REVENUE INCREASES ARE BEING GENERATED FROM.
THIS IS NOT ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.
SO THE 8.9 IS THE GROSS NUMBER.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, IT IS DRIVEN BY YOUR REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, YOUR, YOUR, UM, CONSUMER TAXES.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, NEIL TALKED ABOUT HIS PRESENTATION, THE, THE INTEREST, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
HE'S TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, INTEREST IS UP.
SO GO ON TO THE, BUT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT YOU CALLED IT.
SO THAT'S THE REVENUE BEFORE YOU STEP FORWARD WITH THE REVENUE.
ON THE, UH, EXPENDITURES, ON THE SLIDES YOU HAVE IN THERE, WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO LARGEST ELEMENTS OF OUR BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT IN HERE SOMEWHERE, BUT, UH, YOU BUY, YOU COMBINE PUBLIC SAFETY AND EDUCATION.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET IS THAT? I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
CAUSE I DON'T WANNA SAY IT INCORRECTLY.
YOU ARE OUR FEDERAL REVENUES DOWN BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF OUR SAFER GRANTS IS COMING TO AN END.
SO JUST ASSUME IT'S, YOU THINK IT'S ABOUT 65%? AT LEAST.
BECAUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, UH, THE TWO COMBINED TOGETHER USED TO RUN BETWEEN 70, 69 AND 70%.
NO, I MEAN I'M, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE CHANGED AT ALL.
WE WERE JUST, WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE 70, I THINK THE HIGHEST I'VE EVER SEEN WAS, I THINK IT WAS 72% OF THOSE TWO PIECES.
I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO THAT, BUT I, I'M JUST KIND OF, THAT, THAT'S A NUMBER THAT TO ME IS ALWAYS INTERESTING.
AND IT'S ALSO ONE WE CAN, WE CAN TALK TO THAT THE CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE MEETING OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND, AND TWO BIG PIECES.
IF YOU THINK OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, IF YOU GOT 70, 70%, JUST SAY USE THAT NUMBER 70.
SADLY, IT'S ONLY 30% FOR THE REST OF IT.
SO PUBLIC SAFETY IS, IS 47 MILLION.
SO ABOUT 113 MILLION OUTTA THE HUNDRED $74.
NOW ADMINISTRATIVE, WAS IT LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE? WE WOUND UP WITH A 12 MILLION, UH, EXCESS FY 22.
WHAT CAUSED THAT ANOMALY? WELL, UM, PRIMARILY MY UNDERESTIMATE OF CONSUMER TAXES AND THE SURGEON USED CAR PRICES.
AND GOING FORWARD, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO KIND OF MINIMIZE THE DELTA FEW YEARS THIS YEAR? I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT, UH, AS I, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AT A RETREAT, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY WAS ABSORBED IN THE FY 23 BUDGET SALARY INCREASES.
WE ALSO TOOK A ONE AND A HALF CENT REAL ESTATE RATE CUT OUT OF THAT.
WE ALSO PAID, UH, THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR REBATE ON THE DECEMBER 22 BILL.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S BASICALLY BEEN, UH, ABSORBED BY A COMBINATION OF TAX CUTS, UH, ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTY POSITIONS IN THE FY 23 BUDGET.
WHILE WE HAVE 10 NEW PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS IN THIS BUDGET.
23, UH, WHAT WAS THE BILL WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DECEMBER BILL OR SOMETHING? YEAH, THE, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX BILL IN DECEMBER REFLECTED THE, THE 3.5 MILLION REBATE THAT WAS SPREAD OUT TO ALMOST EVERYBODY THAT HAD A, A CAR TAX.
TRACY, I STILL HAVE PERSONAL, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I STILL HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM WITH THAT CAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HECK, WHAT'S MY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REBATE GIVEN THE CAR THAT I HAD
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AT THE TIME.THAT'S A PERSONAL ISSUE, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW YOUR REBATE TAX CAME BACK TO YOU.
SO, SO IF, IF YOU, IF YOU GIVE GREG PERMISSION TO DO THAT, YOU, WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION ON AN INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.
SO WE COULD, WE COULD WORK YOUR PARTICULAR CASE.
SO TERESA, BACK TO MY YES SIR.
SO I'M THINKING ABOUT IT DIDN'T YEARS AGO.
UM, AND I'LL SAY WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS, IT'S PROBABLY AT TIMES I THOUGHT IT WAS AROUND 70%.
THERE'S, SO THERE'S LIKE A 4% GAP THAT'S DEVELOPED.
WHERE THE SCHOOL CONTRIBUTIONS OUR PRIORITIES HAVE FALLEN IN THE TOTAL BUDGET.
SO I'D LIKE TO SOMEWHERE, NOT NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT GAP, WHERE THAT GAP INCREASE HAS OCCURRED.
BECAUSE THAT WILL TELL US THAT THAT'S, IT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY.
AND WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING MORE REVENUE AND, AND THEN WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE A STAB AT REAL ESTATE TAXES HERE FOR YOU.
SO THE, UH, BUDGET HAS, UM, A PROPOSED RATE DECREASE OF 1 CENT THAT, UM, THAT'S A REVENUE REDUCTION OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND IT DOES HIT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE THAT IS ON THE JUNE BILL OF ABOUT $500,000.
CAUSE THE WAY THAT THE FISCAL YEAR IN THE CALENDAR YEARS DON'T LINE UP.
SO A $1 MILLION REDUCTION IN REVENUE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
CAUSE THE JUNE BILL WOULD APPLY THE NEW RATE, BUT THE MONEY WOULD COME IN AND COUNT TOWARD THIS BUDGET YEAR.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT HIT, THIS IS THE ONE SET.
BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT IS THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT IMPACTED THE LAST HALF OF LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR AND IS THIS YEAR AS WELL, DECEMBER, WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SQUEEZED THAT SURPLUS.
SO, UM, SO FY 24, YOU KNOW, IS A TWO YEAR REASSESSMENT.
AND AS NEIL SAID, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, IT DOES IMPACT THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO THE, THE, UM, ASSESSOR IS WORKING ON THAT, THAT REASSESSMENT.
AND WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE UNTIL DECEMBER 23, BUT WE DO KNOW NOW, AND I THINK SPOKEN TO THIS BEFORE, IS THAT RIGHT? THE, WITH, UM, THE REASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE IN 22 WITH WHERE IT STANDS NOW, WHAT SHE'S SEEING NOW, WE'RE AT ABOUT AN 83% MARKET RIGHT NOW.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE SAY YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH 83% OF WHAT ZILLOW SAYS SAYS IT WORTH TODAY.
UH, SO WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN INCREASE YOU HAVE GO UP IN, IN THE RATE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, UNDER STATE LAW, THE REAL ESTATE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR IS INDEPENDENT.
SHE DOESN'T, UM, GET DIRECTION BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR THE BOARD.
SO SHE'S COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF THOSE VALUES.
SO I DID TALK TO HER TODAY AND SHE DID SAY THAT SHE FELT LIKE, UM, PRICES ARE LEVELING OFF, BUT IN SLOWING THE SALES ARE SLOWING DOWN.
BUT, BUT WE ARE LEVELING OFF A LITTLE BIT.
HOW, HOW DOES OUR RATE COMPARE TO SURROUNDING SPEAKER? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED.
WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT SLIDE TONIGHT.
WELL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THANKS.
WE'RE LOW JAMES CITY COUNTY'S 83.
WHAT'S NEWPORT NEWS? ONE 20? WELL, I'M PROPOSING GOING FROM 78 TO 77.
UH, IS WHITES IS A DOLLAR FIVE.
ARE THEY EVER A DOLLAR? I REMEMBER.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A CHART ON THE BUDGET PRESENT.
WHERE'S, WHERE'S OUR CHART? I WANNA SEE A CHART.
UH, IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE IN HERE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT.
AND HISTORICALLY, OUR OUR ASSESSORS IS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE IN HER.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE POINTS I WAS GONNA SAY.
SHE, SHE IS, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, YORK COUNTY ITSELF HAS BEEN PRETTY CONSERVATIVE OVER THE YEARS.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ERR ON THE SIDE OF LOWER RATES VALUES JACK THE RATES UP TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE STATE LAW THEN WHAT WE WOULD'VE TO DO IS COME BACK AND CUT THE TAX RATE EVEN MORE.
IT'S REALLY, WELL THAT'S WHAT IT HIGHER WHY HIGHER VALUE? LOWER DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T,
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THE STATE REQUIRE, DOESN'T STATE REQUIRE BE ABOUT 90 SOMEWHAT PERAL INCREASING YOUR ASSESS VALUE.I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S NOT ULTIMATELY COMPAR ASSESSOR PRESSURE'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
SO, SO, SO TERESA, WAS THIS WHERE YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL THE VARIABLES THAT WERE MOVE TO THE GAS
I'M SORRY THAT WE KEEP PUTTING IN NO, NO, NO.
THIS IS SINGLE LARGEST PART OF, OF THE THE BUDGET.
SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THIS? THE NEW REVENUE, UH, THAT WE PROJECT IN THIS BUDGET, WE CAME UP WITH IT 84 MILLION.
IT'S A 3.3% INCREASE OF $2.7 MILLION ON THE 23 BUDGET.
SO WE HAD ADDED SOME GROWTH OF ABOUT $80 MILLION IN PROBLEM CYCLE, $83 MILLION IN THE JUNE 24 CYCLE.
UM, AND IT ASSUMED THAT THE REASSESSMENT WE'RE GONNA PICK UP ABOUT 70% OF THAT 83 UM, HUNDRED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 83 AND THE HUNDRED 17%.
UM, IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE RATE REDUCTION THAT IS BEING PROPOSED NOW.
WE ASSUME THAT IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
UM, IT ASSUMES ECONOMIC TRENDS WILL LEVEL OFF BY THE TIME ALL THIS IS DONE.
IT ALSO ASSUMES A REVENUE REDUCTION OF, UM, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR SO FOR ALL THE REAL ESTATE RELIEF FOR VETERANS AND ALL THE REAL ESTATE RELIEF.
AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA COLLECT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, BILL, THERE IS A COLLECTION RATE IN THERE.
SO IF ALL THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE CORRECT AND EVERYTHING IS IN A NICE LITTLE BOW IN THE FY 25 BUDGET, YOU MAY DECIDE TO REDUCE THE RATE OR MAKE A RATE CHANGE AND THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
BUT THIS THE 26 BUDGET, THE 25 BUDGET BUDGET.
SO, SO ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THAT, IF I MIGHT, CAUSE WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S ABOUT A HALF DOZEN BIG VARIABLES IN COMING UP WITH THIS REVENUE ESTIMATE AND ASSUMES WHAT WE PROPOSE IN TERMS OF A RATE.
IT ASSUMES WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ECONOMY.
IT ASSUMES HOW MUCH NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE AND GETS TAXED.
IT ASSUMES, UH, HOW MUCH BAD DEBT THERE IS.
UM, HOW MANY, UH, VETERANS BENEFITS AND ALL THAT STUFF ARE PAID.
AND THEN WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF ALL OF THOSE GIGANTIC VARIABLES PLAYING OUT EXACTLY AS, AS WE HAVE PLUGGED AND CHUGGED IT ZERO, UM,
YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, HOPEFULLY SOME OF THEM WILL BE OFF TO THE UPSIDE AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM WILL BE OFF TO THE DOWNSIDE.
AND THEN HOWEVER THAT ALL WORKS OUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, THIS BOARD SAYS, HOW DID THAT ALL WORK OUT AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO WITH THE RATE? THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE FINAL VARIABLE, WHAT YOU DECIDE TO DO IN NEXT YEAR AND PROMISING NOT TO CHALLENGE WHAT TERESA JUST WALKED US THROUGH.
CAN WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT PAPER? THERE'S A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THAT, ISN'T THAT? WELL IT'S JUST, THIS IS A LITTLE WORKSHEET, BUT SURE.
YOU MIND SHOOT YOU AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT.
ALL THOSE ASSUMPTIONS, OUR REVENUE EXPECTATION IS GOING INCREASE BY HOW MUCH? 2.7.
SO WE'LL GET 2.7 MILLION MORE.
EVEN THOUGH ALL THOSE ASSUMPTIONS CORRECT? YES.
NO, YOU DID YOU, THAT'S YOU NAILED IT.
SO THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO, WE WANNA JUST MAKE THE BOARD AWARE OF IS, UM, THE YORKTOWN POWER PLANT.
SO THEY DID CLOSE THE LAST TURBINE OVER THERE.
THEY ARE PLANNING TO DEMOLISH IT SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO, UM, THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE THE IMPACT OF THAT, CUZ WE'RE NOT SURE IT'S GONNA BE SOMETIME IN 24.
COULD BE AT THE BEGINNING OF 24, COULD BE AT THE END OF 24.
AND WE WON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS.
AND THE STATE, THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION GIVES US THOSE NUMBERS TO WHAT EXTENT, WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR ELECTRICITY THAT WE RECEIVE, UH, IS GONNA BE DIMINISHED, I GUESS.
WELL YOU'RE SUBSTITUTE FOR THAT.
WELL, FROM AN ELECTRICITY STANDPOINT, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS STILL ONLINE WAS THE, WAS THE OIL TURBINE, WHICH WAS ONLY ALLOWED TO RUN LIKE 8% OF THE YEAR IN DIRE EMERGENCIES.
SO IT, IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT FROM A ELECTRICAL SUPPLY STANDPOINT NOW THAT THERE'S THE SECOND LINE ACROSS THE RIVER.
UH, BUT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT, THERE'S POTENTIALLY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OF REVENUE THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.
WE'VE BEEN EXPECTING IT AND IT, AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE DIDN'T FACTOR INTO THE BUDGET.
WE JUST WANTED TO SAY, SAY, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY ANOTHER VARIABLE ALONG WITH ALL THOSE OTHER ONES
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WE JUST LISTED.SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GET TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE HIT THESE OR WE DIDN'T HIT THESE AND YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER VARIABLE TO CONSIDER.
I GOTTA MAKE UP A MILLION DOLLARS POWER, UH, LOST REVENUE OR IONA.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO GREG.
GREG HAS BEEN OUR GURU IN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND, AND HE HAS REALLY, UM, DRIVEN DOWN INTO WHAT PERSONAL PROPERTY IS DOING RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO, UM, I'M GONNA SEE SOME REAL NUMBERS.
SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RECOMMENDED THE 10 CENT TAX RATE REDUCTION.
UM, THAT'S GOING TO, UH, REDUCE, SAY THAT AGAIN? TEMP, UH, 10 CENT.
TO REDUCE YOUR FISCAL YEAR 2024 REVENUE BY APPROXIMATELY $550,000.
AND SIMILAR TO REAL ESTATE, HALF OF THAT WILL ALSO IMPACT FISCAL YEAR 23, THE YEAR WE'RE IN NOW.
UM, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND ANY FEE CHANGES.
UM, THE VEHICLE LICENSE FEE, AS YOU KNOW, GENERATES ABOUT 1.6 MILLION IN REVENUE.
UM, BUT THE THOUGHT WAS THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT A SIMPLE TAX RATE CUT WAS PREFERABLE AT THIS TIME TO A PARTIAL FEE REDUCTION OR A PHASE OUT OF THAT MEETING.
SO LET ME REJECT THERE FOR A MINUTE.
BUT IF YOU TAKE A FEE AWAY, IF YOU TAKE A $25 REGISTRATION FEE PER YEAR AWAY, THAT'S A FLAT FEE EVERY YEAR, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR VEHICLE COSTS, YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME THING YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND IF YOU HAVE THREE VEHICLES, THAT'S $75 OFF YOUR OVERALL TAX BURDEN THAT YOU'RE SAVING, AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR VEHICLE IS.
SO YEAH, THE, THE, THE CUT RATE CUT IS VERY HELPFUL.
THAT FLUCTUATES WITH THE WHAT, WHAT YOUR VEHICLE'S WORTH.
BUT, UM, THERE'S ALSO A FLAT RATE YOU CAN CALCULATE EVERY YEAR AS WELL.
SO A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE, THAT'S NOT BEING RECOMMENDED.
UM, I WAS STILL CHALLENGED THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PURSUE.
UM, BUT CUT DOING AWAY WITH $25 FEE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND AND THAT'S A LEGACY FEE.
YOU, YOU USED TO GET A STICKER WITH IT.
NOBODY WANTS TO STICKER ANYMORE.
YOU DON'T GET THE STICKER NOW YOU JUST PAY $25 AND GET NOTHING FOR IT.
MAN, THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S I'D LOVE TO HAVE A STICKER.
WHAT WE DID AWAY WITH IT BY OUR FIRST TUR WALK YOU MIGHT ON.
SO STEVEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT CAUSE WE BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE RETREAT AS AN OPTION.
AND, UH, JUST PART OF IT'S A MATH THING.
I MEAN, IF YOU DO THE MATH, WE COULD, I COULD HAVE RECOMMENDED DOING AWAY WITH THAT FEE AND YOU WOULD'VE, YOU WOULD'VE LOST ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE IF YOU HAD NOT HAD A REAL ESTATE RATE CUT AND A PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE CUT BEEN THE SAME DIFFERENCE FROM A REVENUE STAMP.
THOSE TWO CUTS EQUAL THE $25 WITHIN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR SO OF THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT OH, I DIDN'T ADVERTISE, I DIDN'T ADVERTISE THAT THE CURRENT RATES, WE, WE ADVERTISE WITH THE PROPOSED RATE REDUCTION.
WHICH MEANS WE, WE CAN'T GO UP FROM THERE.
UM, MAYBE THAT'S A BAD TACTIC ON MY PART.
I'VE ALWAYS JUST TRIED TO SORT OF PUT FORTH WHAT I ACTUALLY RECOMMEND AS THE BEST.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH, HOW, HOW WE STRUGGLED TO EXPLAIN THE REBATE
WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING TO EXPLAIN IT IN SOME CASES.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT FEE IS.
AND SO IF WE, IF WE PARTIALLY ELIMINATED IT AND DIDN'T TOTALLY ELIMINATE IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING WHAT THAT WAS.
AND WE JUST THOUGHT IN THE END, IF IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, IT WAS CLEANER TO JUST RECOMMEND A SIMPLE, EASY TO EXPLAIN RATE CUT.
SO, BUT I WASN'T SAYING EITHER OR I WAS SAYING IN ADDITION TO, SO THE, THE RATE, THE $1.6 MILLION IS TIED TO THAT, THAT'S $25.
THAT'S THE, SO NOW, OKAY, SO THE QUESTION IT VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.
YOU CAN'T EVER TALK ABOUT EXPENDITURES UNLESS YOU TALK ABOUT REVENUE.
IF YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT REVENUE, DON'T TALK ABOUT EXPENDITURES.
SO THE QUESTION, IT WOULD BE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WHAT IF WE CUT $25 OUT, THAT'S A $1.6 MILLION.
WHAT DO WE LOSE IN THE BUDGET? SO WHEN GREG AND TERESA ARE DONE, I HAVE A LITTLE PIECE ON WHAT I, WHAT THE
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LAST THING THAT GOT CUT WOULD'VE BEEN HAD WE NOT CUT TAXES.AND WHAT YOU MIGHT, WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND CUTTING IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE REVENUE MORE.
THE VERY SHORT VERSION IS THERE'S THREE CHOICES.
UH, THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON COMPENSATION, THE MONEY WE'RE SKIMMING ON SCHOOLS AND THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON CASH CAPITAL AND THE CIP P THAT'S, THAT HAS ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THE THREE CHOICES.
THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS ALWAYS BEEN.
THE THREE CHOICES YOU CAN, AND I'M NOT CUTTING ANY OF THAT.
AND, AND, BUT I I, I WANT TO GO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT, BUT THAT'S THE SHORT ANSWER.
WELL, IT IS, BUT IT'S, THE BOARD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
THE CITIZENS NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IF YOU TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE REVENUE, YOU GOTTA CUT THE EXPENDITURES.
SO JUST SIMPLY, SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
ANOTHER THOUGHT WE HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE INTENTIONALLY PUT ON THE TABLE IT SHOULD BE, I THINK WE ALL THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD POLICY OBJECTIVE TO GET RID OF THAT FEE.
UH, JUST, IT'S KIND OF A LEGACY THING AND IT'S JUST BEEN A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO IF YOU GET TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE CHOICE MIGHT BE REAL ESTATE RATE VERSUS THAT, THAT'S WHAT IN TERMS OF, OF PURE MATH.
BUT I, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU CAN'T TALK ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
BUT WE DID JUST HEAR WE'RE EXPECTING THE 2.7% INCREASE IN REVENUE.
IS THERE ROOM WITHIN THAT 2.7% INCREASE TO DO THAT? THAT'S FOR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? YES.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THIS, THIS BUDGET CYCLE.
BUT THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, YOU STILL GOT COMPENSATION THAT'S THE REVENUE IS IN BASED ON WHAT HE'S PRESENTED.
SO IF WE TAKE 1.6 OUT, THEN YOU THAT THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU CUT OR, OR YOU DON'T HAVE, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE 2.7% INCREASE.
I DON'T WHERE, WHERE THE MATH WORKS AT TOO.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S EXCESS DOLLARS THAT WERE THEN TURNED AROUND AND SPENT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT WASN'T THAT, UH, THOUGH AN EXTRAORDINARY, THAT WAS EXTRAORDINARY MONEY, SOME MONEY COMING IN FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE CAN'T SEE THAT, THAT GOLDEN, UH, RAINBOW.
WE, WE CERTAINLY PROJECT THAT THE, THE SURPLUS FOR THE YEAR WE'RE IN WOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT THAT FY 22 1 WAS.
SO WHAT'S MORE APPEALING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS? IS IT CUTTING THE TAR FEE OR CUTTING THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE? AND, AND, UH, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY FEES, WHICH ONE PROVIDES MOST COMFORT? ALL OF THE ABOVE.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT, OH, OKAY.
NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUE THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THEN WHAT YOU, WHAT SERVICES DO YOU LEAVE THAT'S NOT GONNA PROVIDE ALL THAT COMFORT? WELL, I, I CUT FIREFIGHTERS, LOSS OF FIREFIGHTERS REDUCTION IN, IN BUILDINGS, UH, LOSS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IF WE'RE GOING, IF WE'RE ALREADY ANTICIPATING AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, EVEN WITH THE, THE TAX RAISE HAS BEEN, THE TAX HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
SO THE, THE INCREASE IN REVENUE THAT'S IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, GOT A CLAIM ON IT BASED ON OUR PLAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE 8.9 MILLION OF NEW REVENUE, UH, FIVE AND A HALF OF IT IS FOR THINGS RELATED TO EMPLOYEE COST, COMPENSATION COST.
THE, THE, THE STUFF WE DID DURING THIS YEAR THAT HAS TO ROLL OVER IN HEALTHCARE, 2.3 MILLION GOES TO THE SCHOOLS.
SO THAT LEADS, EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE BUDGET IS GOING UP 1.1 MILLION ON A, ON $165 MILLION BASE.
SO EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET IS GOING UP 0.6%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NEIL, ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE YOU LOSE FOLKS YEAH.
IS THAT, IS THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
THE EVERYTHING, IT'S SPECIFICS.
IF THE, IF YOU WANNA CUT SOMETHING OUTTA THE BUDGET, THE SUPERVISORS WANNA CUT SOMETHING OUTTA THE BUDGET.
YOU'RE GONNA GO IN THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA CUT IT OUT.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HALF, HALF A GENERATOR, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE WHOLE GENERATOR.
IF YOU CAN'T HAVE HALF A BUILDING, YOU GOT THE WHOLE BUILDING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU NEED 120 LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU EITHER CUT OUT A WHOLE COP OR, OR, OR YOU DON'T.
SO WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THIS TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE, THAT, AND YOU'VE SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT ON THAT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
YOUR PLANNING, YOUR PLAN SHOWS THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE.
OKAY? THAT'S PART OF YOUR BUDGET.
SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT, IF YOU GOTTA CUT A 1.6 MILLION OUT ON THE REVENUE, WHAT ARE YOU SURGICALLY CUTTING IT OUTTA YOUR BUDGET? WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF THERE? SOMETHING HAS TO COME OUT OF THE BUDGET.
IT CAN'T BE JUST A PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD OR YOU CAN TRY THAT, BUT A PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD ACROSS THE WHOLE BUDGET.
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$1.6 MILLION, NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.SO AGAIN, MY ANSWER IS IT'S REALLY ONLY THREE LOGICAL PLACES TO GO, WHICH IS WHERE THE MONEY IS, WHICH IS THE COMPENSATION INCREASE, THE SCHOOLS AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
IF, IF Y'ALL DIRECTED ME TO DO THAT AND CUT SOME OTHER FEE OR TAX, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LIKE A LITTLE TIME TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, OF THE THREE, THE ONE THAT I WOULD PROBABLY RESIST THE MOST IS ANY REDUCTION IN COMPENSATION, BECAUSE I ALREADY WORRY THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE ON THAT.
BUT OB OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE ARE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THAT'S, I RECOMMENDED WHAT I RECOMMEND.
BUT THE, THE QUESTION NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED THOUGH.
IF, IF YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROPOSING THE CUT OF TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR ONE, ONE POINT, 1.6 MILLION OUTTA BUDGET, GREAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO THEUP, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TELL THE SUPERVISORS WHAT THAT WOULD COST US.
BECAUSE EITHER WE'RE GONNA STOP FUNDING SOMETHING IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN A TARGET.
WE'VE GONE IN THERE AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY THIS.
AND, AND GOVERNMENT'S PUSHED THAT OFF UNTIL SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.
OKAY? AND THEN IT COSTS YOU EVEN MORE THAN AN EMPLOYEE.
THE EMPLOYEES, YOU SCREW AROUND WITH THE EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
NOW, WE HAD IN THE PAST THIS DISCUSSION THAT NOW THE PE PEOPLE LOVE TO WORK HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D LOVE TO WORK HERE ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD, THEY, THAT THEY COULD AFFORD THESE CUTS.
AND THE SAME THING GOES INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU PULL THE MONEY OUTTA THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, OKAY, THEN THAT'S, THERE'S A BIG, WHAT IS IT LIKE 98% OF THE SCHOOL BUDGET IS SCHOOL EMPLOYEE SALARY? A LOT OF IT, IT'S A LOT OF IT, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY IN REGARDS MOSTLY ABOUT, SO YOU START LOSING TEACHERS AND, AND THE FOLKS THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP.
SO WHERE'S THE MONEY? WHERE'S, WHERE DO YOU WANNA SPEND IT ON? WHERE DO YOU WANNA CUT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
WELL, BUT, AND IT GOES BACK TO, TO INTERESTING POINT, I THINK YOU MADE A MINUTE AGO.
WE'RE SEEING A 2.7% INCREASE IN REVENUE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT THAT MONEY ALLOTTED TO SOMETHING.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT 2.7, THEN WE'D BE IN TROUBLE.
WHAT I, IS WHAT I'M HEARING KUEY, IS THAT ALLOT UH, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY YOU SAW THE, THE EXPENDITURE SUMMARY FROM TERESA EARLIER.
I MEAN, THE SINGLE LARGEST THING IS COMPENSATION INCREASE IN VARIOUS RELATED THINGS LIKE HEALTHCARE INCREASE.
UH, AND THE SECOND LARGEST THING IS THE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE SCHOOLS.
AND THEN EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THAT IS PRETTY SMALL.
IT HONESTLY, I'M ALMOST SURE WHAT I WOULD COME BACK WITH IF YOU ALL SAID DO THAT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, WELL WHAT WOULD WE DO IN A CRISIS IF WE HAD TO FREEZE SOMETHING LIKE WE DID DURING COVID? WELL, FROZE THE CIP P I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A TARGET.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE Y'ALL WERE IN A DECADE AGO.
AND, UH, PROBABLY WOULD PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ENTIRE FREEZE.
IT WOULD BE, OKAY, LET'S SAY MILLION SIX, THAT THAT FINANCES 15 MILLION OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO IF YOU SAID, ALL RIGHT, THE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY ARE GONNA SPLIT THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WOULD SLOW DOWN OR CUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION IN THE COUNTY CAPITAL SIDE AND PROBABLY TELL THE SCHOOLS THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE SAME, THAT THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST PAINFUL OF THOSE THINGS.
WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY YOU ALL HAD SUCH A MEAGER C I P BEFORE.
CAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS LESS PAINFUL IN THE SHORT RUN THAT EVERYTHING ELSE, AGAIN, MY PUSHBACK WOULD BE, SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND THOSE GETTING THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THOSE INVESTMENTS MOVING AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS REQUIRE PLANNING AND YEARS TO DESIGN.
AND, AND IF YOU, IF YOU START AND STOP, START AND STOP, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MAKES IT ALL MORE DIFFICULT.
NOT GONNA SAY IT COULDN'T BE DONE BECAUSE IT COULD MAKE IT MORE COSTLY, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT 2.7% REVENUE INCREASE DOES NOT GIVE US ROOM TO REDUCE THE $1.6 MILLION.
CAUSE THAT MONEY'S ALREADY SPOKEN FOR ON THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE, THAT WE'VE COVERED.
YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING SPECIFIC ON THE, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.
WHAT CAN THINK ABOUT IT FOR NEXT YEAR? I, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THAT WE LOOK AT BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S BEEN A TARGET.
AND THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET RID OF THAT, LET'S GET RID OF THE $25 IN THE NEXT BUDGET AND THAT'S GONNA BE A, THAT WILL BE THE BIG BUDGET.
SO, SO IF, IF THAT WAS KIND OF THE SENSE OF, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, NEW BOARD MEMBERS WEIGHING IN BY IT BY
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NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE KIND OF GO INTO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR THINKING THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE REDUCTION PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, 0.6 MILLION.
HERE'S THE QUESTION THOUGH, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING TO PUT IT IN TO NEXT YEAR, BUT ALSO NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INCREASE IN THE REAL ESTATE TAX BECAUSE OF REASSESSMENT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO A POINT THERE, WHAT, SEE THAT SAY, CAREFUL HOW YOU SAY THAT.
WELL YOU SAID ANTICIPATE THAT REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS WILL, WILL RISE, WHICH SHOULD GIVE US AN ABILITY TO HAVE AN EQUIVALENT TAX RATE INCREASE TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENT OFF THE 1.6 MILLION.
AND I CHOSE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU STICK A PIN IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THAT LICENSE FEE.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO IN HERE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS GOING, WE GOTTA DO THAT.
MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS WE'LL COME UP WITH, BUT CERTAINLY KEEP THAT IN MIND AND SEE HOW THAT FITS INTO THE BIGGER PLAN.
BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE MORE, WE'LL HAVE MORE INPUT, MORE THINGS WILL CHANGE.
WELL, WHO KNOWS? WE'LL CHANGE BETWEEN NOW, MR. ROONE, I HEARD YOU MENTION AND MAYBE A FLAT TAX
WELL, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT IN A COUPLE SLIDES.
I GOT, I GOT COUPLE IDEAS ABOUT THAT, BUT THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR PRO PRIME OF THAT.
WELL, BUT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND PRESS ON THAT.
SO, UM, UH, I BRIEFED THE BOARD AT THE JANUARY RETREAT ON WHERE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING WITH VEHICLE VALUES IN THE COUNTY.
UH, BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE GOTTEN MUCH BETTER AND MORE UPDATED INFORMATION FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.
SO, AS THE TIME THAT I PUT THIS TOGETHER, WE HAD, UH, ROUGHLY 48,000 OF THE 60,000 VEHICLES THAT WE EXPECT TO BE ON THE TAX ROLLS, UH, EVALUATED AS OF THIS TAX YEAR.
SO THOSE WOULD BE ACTUAL VALUES, NOT ESTIMATES, LIKE I GAVE YOU IN JANUARY, AND I KNOW THE BOARD HAS BEEN SHOWN SOME DATA THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT VEHICLE VALUES IN 23 ARE STILL ELEVATED BY AS MUCH AS 24% COMPARED TO 21.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT STUDY, WHAT THE METHODOLOGY WAS OR HOW DIFFERENT THE MARKET IS FROM YORK COUNTY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN YORK COUNTY, AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
UM, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX CONSISTS OF MULTIPLE CLASSES OF VEHICLES.
SO THERE ARE THINGS LIKE RVS AND HEAVY TRUCKS AND TRACTOR TRAILERS, BUT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE CARS.
AND THEY ARE ALSO THE CLASS THAT WAS MOST AFFECTED BY THE WILD PRICE SWING FROM 2021 TO 2022.
SO, AS I SAID, WE HAVE, UH, 60,000 VEHICLES THAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE ON THE TAX ROLL FOR 2023.
AND THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE HAS THE ACTUAL VALUES FOR ABOUT 48,000 OF THOSE, WHICH IS ABOUT 80% RIGHT.
AND OVERALL, THE AVERAGE DECLINE IN VALUE FROM 2021 TO 2023 IS ABOUT 4%.
THAT'S WITH NO INFLATION ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOWN CLOSER TO 17%.
SO THIS IS JUST A, A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU.
SO IS IF THIS PIE IS THE 60,000 VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THE TAX ROLLS, THE GREEN PORTION OF THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE ACTUAL VALUES FOR AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THESE SLICES ARE.
UM, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT JD POWER AND N A D A JD POWER ONLY PROVIDES VALUES TO US FOR VEHICLES, UH, LESS THAN 20 YEARS OLD.
AND JD POWER, OR N A D A, UH, JD POWER BOUGHT N A D A.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SAY JD POWER.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S OLDER THAN MODEL YEAR, UH, THIS YEAR, ANYTHING THAT'S OLDER THAN 2003 IS NOT VALU OR NOT EVALUATED BY JD POWER.
SO THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE JUST ASSIGNS A MINIMUM VALUE TO THOSE.
SHE USUALLY USES $250 FOR THE OLDER VEHICLES.
SO THEY ALSO DON'T PROVIDE VALUES FOR THE BRAND NEW 2023 MODELS.
COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE VALUES THOSE AT 80% OF THEIR SELLING PRICE.
SO WE STILL HAVE, SO THAT'S NEW SINCE STADIUM POWER BOUGHT, OR IT'S JUST THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO PROVIDE VALUES TO US FOR BRAND NEW VEHICLES.
SO AGAIN, THERE ARE STILL ABOUT 11,600 VEHICLES OUT THERE THAT HAVE YET TO BE ASSESSED BY JD POWER.
THOSE ARE GONNA GO IN SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, AND SHE
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COMPLETES HER TAX ROLES.BUT WITH ABOUT 80% OF THE TOTAL COUNTY EVALUATED, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THOSE, THOSE CARS ARE GONNA FOLLOW THAT SAME TREND.
THEY SHOULD BE DOWN ON AVERAGE ABOUT 4%.
SO 12% OF THE VEHICLE IN THE COUNTY IS GONNA GET A FLAT TWO $50 PAY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE? BECAUSE YOU SAID MM-HMM.
AND, AND THE REASON I BROKE THOSE UP, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT ON THE NEXT GRAPH IS 3%.
BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PRE 2002 MODELS, THOSE WERE ALREADY VALUED AT $250 IN 2021.
SO THEY HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHANGE IN THEIR ASSESSMENTS.
WELL, CAR PRICES HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN.
UM, AND TYPICALLY THOSE 2002 AND 2003 MODELS, THE YEAR BEFORE THEY DROPPED OFF, THEY WERE AROUND $2,500 ON AVERAGE.
SO WHEN THEY OFF THE JD POWER BOOKS AND WE, WE START EVALUATING THOSE AT TWO 50, IT'S LIKE A 90% DROP ON THEIR ASSESSMENT.
SO NOT A BUNCH OF OLD VEHICLES
IT'S GOOD FOR BE PAUL'S ALL THOSE REPAIRS.
SO I THINK BY NOW, YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS CHART.
YOU'VE SEEN SOMETHING SIMILAR TO IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES NOW.
UH, BUT AGAIN, I'LL EMPHASIZE THAT THESE ARE NO LONGER ESTIMATES.
THESE ARE BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THAT GREEN AREA OF THAT PIE CHART YOU JUST SAW.
SO THE, THE 80% OF THE COUNTY VEHICLES ARE SHOWN THERE.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S A BIG SPIKE THERE AT THE RIGHT AROUND THE 0% LINE MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED AFTER THAT.
IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S ALL THOSE CARS THAT ARE LOW VALUE.
IT'S ABOUT 8,200 TOTAL IN THAT ZERO TO 2.5% INCREASE RANGE.
BUT, UH, 6,900 OF THOSE WERE ALREADY VALUED AT $250 AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE.
SO, AND THEN DOWN, UH, TO THE FAR LEFT OF THE GRAPH, THAT THAT ALSO IS THE, THE 2003 AND 2002 MODEL YEARS THAT DROPPED OFF LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE RESPECTIVELY.
AND SO THEY SAW A HUGE PERCENTAGE DECREASES, ALTHOUGH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WASN'T THAT BIG.
SO, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE OUT FROM THE SHAPE OF THE CURVE, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THAT MINUS 4% IS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THAT, THAT DISTRIBUTION PIECE.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS REALLY JUST THE SAME CHART, BUT I SUPERIMPOSED THE INFLATION ADJUSTED CHANGE ON IT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S SHAPED VERY SIMILARLY.
IT'S JUST BEEN SHIFTED TO THE LEFT.
AND AGAIN, ON A INFLATION ADJUSTED BASIS, UH, THESE VEHICLE VALUES AVERAGED TO DECREASE OF ABOUT 17% FROM 2021 TO 2023.
SO, MOVING ON, THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE.
SO THESE ARE SOME REAL WORLD EXAMPLES.
UM, YOU MAY RECOGNIZE SOME OF THESE FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS.
I'M GONNA 0.1 OUT IN PARTICULAR.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE SAME EXAMPLES I'VE BEEN USING SINCE LAST AUGUST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE REBATE.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST LINE IN THE CHEVY SILVERADO WENT FROM ABOUT 23,000 TO 25,000 FROM 21 TO 22, BUT NOW IS BACKED DOWN TO ABOUT 19,000.
SO IT SEEMED ROUGHLY A 17% PHENOMENAL DROP OVER THE TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH THAT SPIKE FROM THE 22 PRICES.
UM, THERE ARE STILL SOME OUTLIERS, AND AGAIN, I, THAT IS MY 2017 CHEVY VOLT THERE.
HE'S NOT GONNA CALL Y'ALL, BUT NO, NO, THAT'S NOT THE ONE HAD A BROKE RADIO THOUGH.
I WON'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON GAS
LET'S, LET'S PAUSE ON THIS SLIDE JUST FOR FOR A MINUTE.
SO THOSE, THESE NUMBERS ARE STRICTLY WHAT JD POWER TELL US THOSE VEHICLES ARE WORTH.
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I THINK WE CAN USE JD POWERS NUMBERS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO NORMAL NORMALIZE THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND NOT JUST GO YEAR TO YEAR, THAT WILL INSULATE CITIZENS FOR THINGS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN 2022 AND INSULATE THE COUNTY.
IF THE THE BOTTOM DROPS OUT OF THE MARKET, IT FLATTENS IT OVER TIME AND PEOPLE CAN BETTER ESTIMATE AND PREPARE WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY.
BECAUSE REAL PERSONAL PROPERTY STATE TAXES, YOU GOTTA WRITE A CHECK FOR THAT THAT COMES OUTTA YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.
REAL ESTATE, UM, TAXES CAN BE PART OF YOUR ESCROW.
YOU DON'T REALLY, IT, YOU, YOU PAY IT, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT THE SAME WAY YOU DO WHEN YOU WRITE A CHECK LIKE YOU DO FOR IT.
NOT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO EVERYBODY, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T FEEL IT THE WAY THEY DO WHEN THEY HAVE TO WRITE THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX CHECK.
I KNOW, I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA VERY MUCH, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN TACKLE THIS PROBLEM AND NORMALIZE IT FOR OUR CITIZENS BETTER THAN WHAT WE DO THAN JUST SAYING WHATEVER JD POWER SAYS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO WITH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER HAS ANY LEEWAY LEGALLY TO, I MEAN, SHE CAN PICK A DIFFERENT SOURCE, BUT SHE IS REQUIRED BY LAW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TO USE A PUBLIC PUBLISH VALUE ANYWAY.
WE DON'T, BUT MY QUESTION IS ON THE CRISIS OF IT HERE, THOSE ARE, THEY'RE BASED CARS, NOT, NOT WITH, UH, ANY ADD-ONS.
SO SHE DOES NOT CHARGE FOR THE ADD-ONS, YOU KNOW, SERIES OR WHATEVER ELSE.
SHE DIDN'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR THE FACT SHE THREE WE SAID, OKAY, THAT'S, SHE DOESN'T GET CREDIT FOR AND SHE SHOULD GET CREDIT FOR THINK THE AVERAGE OF THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE AVERAGE OF THAT IS, IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA CHARGE PEOPLE AGAINST.
BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THAT, WHICH ARE THE TWO UH, GRAPHS, THE BLUE OR THE RED WE FALLING UNDER WITH RESPECT TO PERSON PROPERTY CARS? I'M, WELL, THE REALITY IS GRAPH WHAT THE ACTUAL VALUES ARE.
THAT BLUE GRAPH IS JUST AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT THIS DISCUSSION, ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY LOW PERSONAL, ANYTHING INFLATION ADJUSTED.
SO, SO THE TAX UNDER THE LAW HAS TO FOLLOW WHATEVER THE NOMINAL VALUE IS.
BUT IN THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THIS, IT'S A FAIR POINT THAT EVERY, YOU KNOW, NOBODY FREEZES THE COST OF WHAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO BUY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, THE POINT IS INFLATION IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND IN ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE LAW AND THE BILLS AND ALL THAT ARE BASED ON THE NOMINAL VALUE.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT DID, GREG DID MENTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WELL HE DID MENTION IT, BUT HE DIDN'T SUPERIMPOSE IT ON THOSE VALUES, IS WE'RE PROPOSING THE RATE CUT.
SO WHATEVER VALUE YOUR PARTICULAR VEHICLE IS ASSIGNED BY THE COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE BUDGET THAT'S PROPOSED, YOU WOULD HAVE THIS APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF PERCENT CUT UNDERSTANDING ON WHICH YOU WOULD'VE OTHERWISE PAID.
WITH, WITH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT YOU STILL, WE, WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE A 2022 COME ALONG AND SUDDENLY EVERYBODY'S VALUE HAS ESCALATED.
E EVEN WITH A TASK CUT RATE, THEY'RE STILL WRITING BIG CHECKS THAT THEY DIDN'T BUDGET IN BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T, THEY, THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO EXPECT THAT WE EVERYBODY GOT BLINDSIDED BY THAT.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER, I NEVER SAW SEEN.
I KNOW, BUT RURAL THUMB, IT HAPPENED ONCE.
AND, AND REMEMBER WE STARTED RAISING HELL ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHY WERE WE BEING SURPRISED BY THIS, YOU KNOW, HUMONGOUS INCREASE, 60 40 TO 60% INCREASE IN VALUE BASED ON OUR TWO YEAR ASSESSMENT.
AND, UM, AND THEN PART OF THAT WAS JUST THE REPORTING TO LET US KNOW AND, AND PREPARE IN ADVANCE.
UH, I WOULD, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOW, EVEN WITH, WITH VEHICLES.
SO I MEAN, THE WHOLE EFFORT OF, YOU KNOW, SETTING A FLAT RATE, IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE JUST PUT IT ON AUTOMATIC AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COME IN AND TELL US, OR THE BUDGET FOLKS COME IN AND TELL US THAT, HEY, LOOK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A WALKING INCREASE.
SO WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE IN ADVANCE.
SO, SO JUST A COUPLE REACTION TO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A REASON WHY
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IT WAS SO POPULAR WHEN GOVERNOR GILMORE PROPOSED DOING AWAY WITH THE CAR TAX BECAUSE OF THE VERY REASON YOU DESCRIBED, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR YOU HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK, YOU GET A BILL, ONE OF 'EM RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD THINK YOU COULD COME UP WITH A FAR BETTER TAX SYSTEM, UH, THAT DIDN'T DO THAT.UH, BUT I'M, I'M MORE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT AUTHORITY EVEN THE COMMISSIONER HAS UNDER STATE LAW.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT WE COULD EVEN, AND, AND, AND RODY, IF YOU FIND OUT, CAN'T LEGALLY, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHAT I'M, AND WHAT I'M SAYING, USE JD POWER USE THAT RECOGNIZED NATIONAL SOURCE.
DON'T, DON'T ARBITRATE FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
BUT INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING THE VALUE IS THE VALUE THIS YEAR, TAKE THOSE VALUES OVER FIVE YEARS AVERAGE THAT YOU'RE STILL USING THE JD POWER VALUE.
YOU'RE JUST AVERAGING OVER TIME.
SO IT FLATTENS THAT THAT CURVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE BIG SPIKES ANYMORE.
YOU'RE STILL USING THAT, YOU'RE STILL USING A RECOGNIZED SOURCE, JUST, BUT YOU'RE JUST AVER AVERAGING.
NOW YOU TELL ME THAT LEGALLY CAN'T DO THE AVERAGE AND THEN OKAY.
TALK WITH THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THAT FOR SURE.
SO FLAT TAX, ONE OF THE THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU RUN INTO WITH THAT IS, IS UH, IS LIKE WHEN YOU DO AN ASSESSMENT EVERY EIGHT YEARS, SOME PEOPLE, OKAY, AND WHICH HAPPENED TO, UH, GLOUCESTER, I THINK, WASN'T IT GLOUCESTER, THEY WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR HOUSE VALUE WENT FROM WHAT IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO TO BOOM.
AND THEY ENDED UP WITH THE ART WITH AN ARTIFICIAL IS SITUATION WHERE THEY THEN WERE HAVING TO WRITE THESE REALLY HUGE CHECKS.
AND, UM, SO THE, THE SAME THING WOULD POSSIBLY END UP WITH, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
NOT THAT ACTUALLY HELP INSULATE THE COUNTY FROM THAT TOO, BECAUSE IF, IF, IF THE BOTTOM OF THE USED CAR MARKET DROPS OUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN CARS AREN'T WORTH ANYTHING, WE DON'T SEE THAT REVENUE.
YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA SIT THERE AND LET US COME DOWN AND SAY, WELL, MY, YOUR CAR IS VALUED HERE AND WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY HERE, I'M LOOKING FORWARD.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY, LET'S VALUE 80% LIKE WHAT YOU DO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
DO YOU THINK WE'VE BEATEN THE DEAD HORSE ENOUGH? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT, BUT WE, WE CAN MOVE ON THOUGH.
LET LOOK, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
WELL TURN, THAT WAS MY LAST SLIDE, SO I'M GONNA TURN THIS BACK OVER TO TERESA TO TALK ABOUT, ALL RIGHT, CONSUMER, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS VERY, VERY, VERY QUICKLY FOR EVERYBODY.
WHAT WE, YOU, YOU'VE ALL SEEN, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY, WE'VE TALKED IN VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS OUR, OUR, OUR SALES HISTORIC TRIANGLE OCCUPANCY AND MEALS TAX ARE INCREASING.
BUT AGAIN, FROM AN INFLATIONARY BASIS, WE'RE BASICALLY STAYING FLAT.
SO JUST, I'M GONNA LET GREG RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES JUST REAL QUICK.
THERE'S OUR SALES TAX REVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW IT IS GOING UP.
UM, BUT INFL, FROM AN INFLATIONARY STANDPOINT, IT'S FLAT AGAIN WITH OUR HISTORIC TRIANGLE, FOLLOWS THE SAME PATTERN.
UM, AND IF I'M GOING THERE YOU GO, YOU GOT YOUR TRANSIT OCCUPANCY TAX WITH OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY THE TWO COVID YEARS, UM MM-HMM.
I HAVE NOT ADDED DAIRY QUEEN IN THIS, BUT, UM, I GOTTA GET A DAIRY QUEEN.
BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THOSE CONSUMER TAXES WHILE, YOU KNOW, IN THE 21, UM, 21 AND 22, THERE WAS THAT, THAT HUGE INCREASE.
IT'S REALLY STAYING PRETTY FLAT BECAUSE OF INFLATION.
SO, AND THIS IS PERFORMANCE METRIC.
THE BETTER THEY PERFORM, THE BETTER THE REVENUE EVERY, EVERYBODY, IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND YOU DON'T GET A BILL RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
SEE, YOU HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK.
AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE REDUCE THAT BILL.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PAY THESE TAXES IN YORK COUNTY THAT DON'T LIVE IT.
SO I JUST HAD TWO SLIDES AND WE, WE KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS WORTH MENTIONING.
SO SINCE WE ADVERTISE THE RATES THAT INCLUDED THE CUTS, I, I REALLY, WE CAN'T DO THIS EVEN IF YOU SAID I WANT TO DO THIS, BUT, UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE TACTICS OF HOW YOU ADVERTISE RATES IN FUTURE YEARS.
BUT WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE NEXT THING ON THE SPENDING SIDE THAT I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED IF WE, I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE MONEY AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE.
WE WOULD'VE HAD A SOMEWHAT LARGER COMPENSATION INCREASE, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF PERCENT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE TOWARD THE HIGHER SIDE OF AVERAGE THAN THE
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LOWER SIDE OF AVERAGE.AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS IN THE COMING YEARS.
AGAIN, THINKING LONG TERM ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, UH, I DO BELIEVE WE WILL NEED MORE, UH, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES.
UM, AND WE'VE MADE THE DECISION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE CAN FILL THE POSITIONS THAT WE'VE AUTHORIZED AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPENSATING THE PEOPLE WE HAVE AS, AS THE HIGHER PRIORITY.
BUT IF WE HAD ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO SPEND, UH, IT WOULD'VE PROBABLY BEEN SIX FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS AND FOUR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES THAT I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK TO THE SAME CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR.
WHICH IS GOOD TO THINK, THINK AHEAD.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE, HOW WOULD THOSE FOUR DEPUTIES BE UTILIZED? WELL, UM, BASICALLY THAT TRANSLATES INTO, YOU KNOW, ONE PER PER PATROL SHOW.
BUT I, I'M, I DIDN'T, I, I DIDN'T GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT THE SHERIFF WAS REQUESTED THIS YEAR.
IS THERE ANY, ANY, DOES SHERIFF MONTGOMERY HAVE HAVE ANY TARGETS OR THOUGHTS ON INCREASING, SAY SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS? WELL, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT'S, THAT'S WORTH HAVING.
UM, THE, AS AS YOU, AS I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS HAVE A NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURITY INITIATIVE, WHICH OUR INCREASE, I MEAN, YOU CAN SAY IT PAYS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT IT, IT ROUGHLY COVERS THE COST OF THAT PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS DESIGNED AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TO GET SROS AT HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS OUT OF, YOU KNOW, FIGHTS BETWEEN KIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND HAVE SORT OF NON, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURITY GUARDS DEALING WITH THAT.
UH, AND AS I THINK YOU, YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF YOU, I'VE HEARD THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE THINGS THE SHERIFF IS DOING WITH THE SCHOOLS TO HAVE PEOPLE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS A LOT.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A BIG TICKET DECISION.
AND I, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY SINCE WE CAN'T REALLY RECOMMEND IT IN THIS BUDGET AND GO THAT DEEP INTO IT, SROS ARE ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS VERSUS GENERALLY INCREASING, UH, PATROL CAPACITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I TEND TO HAVE A LITTLE BIAS TOWARD GENERALLY INCREASING PATROL CAPACITY.
AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF A PARTICULAR CRIME PROBLEM, IT'S JUST THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU WANT TO PROACTIVELY STAY IN FRONT OF.
THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO TACKLE THAT CHALLENGE.
AND THEN JUST AGAIN, BIG PICTURE DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT'S ON THE RADAR? WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE WALKING TOWARDS? AND, AND ON THE, ON THE FIRE SIDE, UH, WE ARE, UH, APPLYING FOR A SAFER GRANT FOR SIX POSITIONS.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET IT, WE WON'T FIND OUT FOR MONTHS IF WE DID, UH, THE COUNTY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANY MONEY FOR THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS AGO.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS, RIGHT? AND IT WOULD'VE TO BE, BUT IT WOULD GIVES YOU SOME TIME TO BUILD THAT INTO YOUR BUDGET FILLED UP FACTOR THAT IN RESERVES.
AND THEN ON THE, ON THE, UH, OTHER SIDE, UH, OH, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU CUT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE A FURTHER, UH, TAX RATE CUT? AND THESE ARE THE THREE BIG PICTURE CHOICES, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE NEW MONEY IS GOING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GET BACK WITH THE PARTICULARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE REVERSE ORDER OF WHAT I WOULD COME UP WITH.
PROBABLY CAPITAL FUNDING IS WHERE I WOULD GO.
CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS A COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF NOT THAT HARD IN THE SHORT RUN, BUT REALLY SETS YOU BACK LOOKING OUT 2, 3, 4 YEARS.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THOUGH, IF WE HAD SOME MORE, IF WE HAD TO DO WITH LES KIND OF WHERE I WOULD GO WITH THAT.
SO, UH, WE'RE, IF, IF Y'ALL ARE READY, WE'LL GO TO ROSE ON A LITTLE DEEP DIVE ON COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.
SO DOUG PROCESS REMINDING EVERYBODY, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS, IS ON APRIL 18TH AND THE SCHEDULE OF ADOPTION IS MAY 2ND.
ROSE HAS BEEN SITTING VERY PATIENT BACK IN THE CORNER.
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INTO THE NIGHT, AND I AM YOUR CLOSERSO IF I AM BETWEEN YOU AND DINNER, PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW AND I CAN TALK A LITTLE FASTER.
GRANDSON, I WILL TAKE YOU HOME FROM HERE.
SO AS YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR, HUMAN RESOURCES COMES AND PRESENTS TO YOU ALL AN OVERVIEW OF COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.
HOWEVER, BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT PRESENTATION, WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE A COUPLE LITTLE DATA POINTS WITH YOU ALL ABOUT OUR WORKFORCE.
IT WAS JUST SOME INTERESTING DATA THAT WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SEEING.
SO AS YOU SEE WITH THIS CHART, WE RAN A CENSUS TO SHOW YOU THE TOP THREE COUNTIES AND CITIES WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE LIVED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AND INTERESTINGLY, YOU CAN SEE YORKTOWN, NEWPORT NEWS AND WILLIAMSBURG ARE THE TOP THREE FOR ALL FOUR YEARS.
IT'S JUST A DATA POINT TO SHARE WITH YOU.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS NEIL ALLUDED TO EARLIER, OUR LONG NARROW GEOGRAPHIC SHAPE DOES, YOU KNOW, BODE WELL FOR US BECAUSE IT SETS US RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF JAMES CITY, GLOUCESTER SEN, WILLIAMSBURG, NEWPORT, NEWS HAMPTON.
AND SO WE ARE AT AN ADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
UM, AND THIS, THIS REALLY SHOWS IT TO YOU, IT SHOWS YOU THAT EXACTLY, UH, GLOUCESTER COUNTY, IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING WHERE THEY PLACED, THEY DID PLACE FOURTH FOLLOWED BY HAMPTON PLACING FIFTH.
SO IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING DATA POINT THAT WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU AS WE LOOK AT THE MAKEUP OF OUR WORKFORCE AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
AND SO THE RECRUITMENT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CONSISTENT ACROSS FOUR YEARS.
I LIKE SEEING THAT QUARTER OF OUR WORKFORCE BASICALLY IS LIVE, LIVE HERE IN THE COUNTY WHERE THEY WORK.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO SEE.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
SO THEN YOU LOOK HERE AT THE GENERATIONS, AND THIS IS ANOTHER INTERESTING SLIDE TO SHARE WITH YOU, JUST TO SHOW YOU THE MAKEUP OF THE MULTIPLE GENERATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR WORKFORCE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY, MANY ARTICLES THAT TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES BETWEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, BABY BOOMERS EXITING THE WORKFORCE AND THEN ENTERING THE WORKFORCE.
YOU HAVE MILLENNIALS AND GENERATION ZS.
AND THE INTERESTING DATA POINT AS YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR WORKFORCE HAS REMAINED STEADY ACROSS THESE FOUR YEARS, BETWEEN 43 AND 42 YEARS OLD.
AND SO LISA HADN'T GOTTEN ANY OLDER, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE LAST TWO YEARS IT HAS DIPPED FROM 43 TO 42.
SO THAT JUST MIGHT BE AN INDICATION THAT MORE MILLENNIALS AND GENERATION ZS ARE ENTERING AT A FASTER RATE THAT SAYS, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN BARS ON THE LEFT, THOSE ARE YOUR BABY BOOMERS AND THEY'RE DEADLY GOING DOWN.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE YELLOWS AND THE PINKS OR ORANGES OR SALMON, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT COLOR, UM, GOING UP.
AND SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INTERESTING DATA POINT AS YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR WORKFORCE.
SO LATER ON, YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE US A, A READOUT, A STUDY OR SOMETHING ON THE IMPACT OF HAVING THE, A NEWER, YOUNGER GENERATION JOINING THE WORKFORCE AND HOW THAT IS POSSIBLY DRIVING CHANGE IN IN COUNTIES.
SO, AND I'LL, I MEAN, A REAL HEALTHCARE, YES, THE HEALTHCARE GOES UP BABIES A REAL IMPACT IS THAT, AND ALSO HAVING SUPERVISORY MANAGERS LEVELS BE YOUNGER GENERATIONS.
YOU WORRY MORE ABOUT THE AMBULANCES AND HEART ATTACKS IT, WHAT HAVE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY BRINGING TO THE TABLE THAT THEY HAVE LEARNED HERE IN RECENT YEARS COMING TO THE SCHOOL VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO? I MEAN, THEY'RE, THERE'S NEW THINGS.
SO I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW WHAT, YES.
WHAT KIND OF CHANGES THAT, JUST DRIVING IN HOW THE COUNTY OPERATES, THAT'S WHY THERE'S VALUE IN DOING GENERATIONAL TRAININGS IN YOUR WORKFORCE TOO.
SO THAT YOU HELP EDUCATE YOUR WORKFORCE ON WHAT THAT ALL MEANS AND WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS.
AND HOW DO YOU ADAPT TO THAT CHANGE COMING INTO YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS LEAVING THE WORKFORCE.
UM, AND THAT, THAT PART OF YOUR BUDGET IS CRITICAL AS YOU FURTHER DEVELOPED YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NEW COMING IN.
SO WITH THAT, LET'S DIVE INTO THE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS OVERVIEW.
SO ON THE AGENDA, AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE IN PAST YEARS, WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO COMPENSATION, DIG INTO THE INDIVIDUALS AS TERESA ALLUDED TO IN HER PRESENTATION.
AND THEN WE'LL HEAD INTO HEALTHCARE AND BENEFITS AND TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT PLAN YEAR.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK INTO WHAT WE FORESEE FOR 2024.
SO HERE, THE TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE, WHAT'S REALLY CRITICAL ABOUT THIS PART, IT IS ANY GOAL OF A LOCALITY TO BE MARKETABLE AND COMPETITIVE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. RON ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
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IN YOUR EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS THE LARGEST ASSET IN ANY ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? IT'S YOUR PEOPLE.AND SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT DOING THAT, IT ENTAILS MORE THAN JUST AN ANNUAL SALARY.
SO PART OF THAT TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE IS NOT JUST THE ANNUAL SALARY, BUT IT'S ALSO ALL THOSE OTHER BENEFITS AND THOSE PERKS.
IT'S WANTING TO LIVE HERE, IT'S WANTING TO WORK HERE, IT'S WANTING TO COME AND BE PART OF THIS GREAT TEAM.
SO IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS WRAPPED UP IN A NICE LITTLE PACKAGE WITH A BOW.
SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU MARKET THAT AS WELL.
WE CAN'T JUST MARKET ANNUAL SALARY ONLY BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN THAT FOR PEOPLE.
AND AS YOU ALL MENTIONED EARLIER, A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY LAST YEAR, AS A MATTER OF FACT, NEIL MENTIONED A LOT OF PEOPLE COME HERE JUST FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
IT IS A HUGE PIECE OF WHY PEOPLE SEEK WHERE THEY GO.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE NO DIFFERENT.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO DOING THAT, WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MARKETING THAT FOR OUR, OUR CANDIDATES, OUR EMPLOYEES, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS ALSO PART OF OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE.
YOU HAVE TO, HOWEVER, THEY'LL ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN.
YOU CAN'T PRETEND IT DOESN'T EXIST.
IT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
WE HAVE NATIONWIDE RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES.
WE HAVE THE IMPACT OF INFLATION.
WE HAVE RETENTION EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IN A VERY TIGHT LABOR MARKET.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE REMAINING COMPETITIVE WITH OUR SURROUNDING CITIES AND REACTING TO A JAMES CITY COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE.
SO ALL OF THESE THINGS DRIVE US TO HAVING TO INVEST MORE MONEY IN COMPENSATION FOR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PAY THE MONEY TO GET THE GREAT QUALIFIED PERSON, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PAY MONEY TO KEEP THEM.
BECAUSE THEY WILL GO, THEY WILL GO.
AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT TALENT.
SO TO THAT POINT, IS THAT TOTAL CONVERSATION PACKAGE IMPORTANCE UNIFORM ACROSS THE WORKFORCE? OR DO THE GEN ZS PERHAPS MORE FOCUS ON HOW MUCH THEIR PAYCHECK IS VERSUS THE OTHER BENEFITS? BECAUSE YOU'RE 23, 24 YEARS OLD, YOU'RE JUST GETTING OUTTA SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH AM I BRINGING HOME EVERY WEEK AS OPPOSED TO, CUZ I'M NOT GONNA USE MY MEDICAL THAT MUCH CUZ I'M YOUNG, I'M HEALTHY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
WOULD YOU BELIEVE THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS COMING IN ARE ACTUALLY FOCUSED ON WELLNESS, FLEXIBLE SCHEDULING, THE OTHER PERKS, LIKE, LIKE DAYCARE FACILITIES IN YOUR ORGANIZATION, HYBRID WORK MODELS WITH REMOTE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, THEY WANT LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES, THEY WANT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO STAY FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS ALSO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEKING AND THOSE ARE THE MASSES COMING INTO OUR WORKFORCE.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I POINT OUT TO YOU AS WE DIVE INTO THIS TOTAL COMPENSATION, IF YOU LOOK AT A NATIONAL TREND, NATIONAL TREND, WHEN IT COMES TO RECRUITMENT IN PUBLIC SECTOR, THE NUMBER OF OPEN POSITIONS, IF YOU LOOK FROM LAST YEAR TO NOW IN PUBLIC SECTOR, IS UP BY 45%.
OKAY? THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING, THE APPLICATIONS OF CANDIDATES APPLYING IS DOWN 56%.
SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.
WE HAVE THE OPEN POSITIONS GOING UP THIS HIGH AND YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE APPLYING FOR JOBS GOING DOWN 56%.
THAT IS THE RECRUITMENT CHALLENGE THAT ALL EMPLOYERS ARE HAVING NATIONWIDE.
YORK COUNTY IS NOT BEING HIT AS HARD.
WE HAVE ABOUT 12% UP IN OPEN POSITIONS AND OUR IMPACTS ARE ABOUT 26% DOWN IN NUMBER OF APPLICANTS.
SO WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR AS BAD AS NATIONAL TREND, BUT IT'S REAL.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IN GETTING GREAT PEOPLE TO EVEN APPLY.
AND THEN WHEN THEY DO, WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE 'EM AND GET 'EM AND THEN KEEP 'EM.
SO IS THAT BECAUSE CURRENT ADAGE THAT NOBODY WANTS TO WORK? OR IS THAT BECAUSE THERE JUST ISN'T A BIG ENOUGH POPULATION? PO OF OF WORKERS.
IT, IT'S PROBABLY BOTH MR. IT'S PROBABLY BOTH.
SO IT IS A VERY TIGHT EMPLOYEE LABOR MARKET RIGHT NOW, AND THEY KNOW IT.
AND SO THEY GET TO BE CHOOSY, RIGHT? AND THEY GET TO DECIDE WHERE THEY GO AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE THINGS THAT ENTICE THEM.
HEALTH INSURANCE, WELLNESS, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ALL FLEXIBLE SCHEDULING, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT MOBILITY.
IT, IT FORCES US TO REALLY LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND WE CAN'T STAY IN THE MODEL OF DOING IT THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT BECAUSE THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WE HAVE TO GO.
SO THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT NEIL MADE WITH COMPENSATION IS SO CRITICAL.
AND AS HE TALKS EVEN MORE ABOUT IT TONIGHT, THIS IS WHY THIS IS, I MEAN IT'S VERY REAL.
I IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON.
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SO THIS IS AGAIN, A SLIDE THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH FROM PRIOR YEARS.THIS IS A SLIDE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE LOOKS LIKE, NOT JUST ANNUAL SALARY.
WE DID UPDATE THE MEDIAN SALARY OF COURSE FROM LAST YEAR.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 54,000 FOR THE MEDIAN SALARY.
WE TOOK AN EMPLOYEE ONLY LEVEL OF COVERAGE FOR OUR OAP ONE PLAN AND, AND I'LL GO INTO MORE WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE ALL ABOUT, BUT THAT'S OUR MOST WIDELY USED PLAN.
AND THEN WE TOOK THE PPO DENTAL PLAN, WHICH IS THE MOST WIDELY USED DENTAL PLAN.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE BENEFITS THAT THE COUNTY PAYS FOR, IT LANDS YOU TO ALMOST $21,000 THAT WE PAY, WHICH WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE ANNUAL SALARY THAT WE PAY FOR THAT $54,000 EMPLOYEE.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST $75,000 IN THE TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE.
AND THIS IS FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY LEVEL.
SO I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ENTRY LEVEL IS, IS THE 53,795, IN OTHER WORDS, MEDIA, IT'S THE MEDIAN, THE MEDIUM, IT'S THE MEDIAN SALARY.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT THIS EMPLOYEE AND FAMILY EXAMPLE, THE REASON THIS IS SO CRITICAL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON BEING A FAMILY FRIENDLY EMPLOYER.
AND WITH THAT MESSAGE, AS I'LL SHOW YOU IN SOME LATER SLIDES WHEN I SHOW YOU THE PARTICIPATION, YOU WILL SEE THAT EMPLOYEES REALLY RECOGNIZE THAT VALUE BECAUSE THEY'RE UTILIZING OUR FAMILY PLANS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD UTILIZATION.
BUT THIS SHOWS YOU THE EMPLOYEE FAMILY PACKAGE, AGAIN USING THE SAME MEDICAL AND DENTAL PLANS, JUST LOOKING AT THE SAME MEDIAN SALARY, TAKING IT OUT OF FAMILY LEVEL OF COVERAGE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COUNTY PAYS FOR $32,600 WORTH OF BENEFITS ON TOP OF A $54,000 EMPLOYEE SALARY, GETTING THEM TO ABOUT AN 86,400, $700 FOR BASIC LIFE INSURANCE.
WHAT'S THAT POLICY? SO WE OFFER AT NO COST TO THE EMPLOYEE FREE BASIC LIFE INSURANCE THROUGH VS.
BUT HOW MUCH IS THE, HOW MUCH IS THE TWO SALARY? IS IT SALARY BASED? IT'S TWO TIMES YOUR ANNUAL SALARY.
ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST AND THEN YOU CAN BUY EXTRA, YOU CAN BUY AN ADDITIONAL UP TO AN ADDITIONAL FOUR TIMES SALARY TERM, LIKE TERM LIFE OR SOMETHING LIKE IT.
AND THE, UH, LONG, SHORT AND LONG TERM DISABILITY, UH, PACKAGE.
IS THAT LIKE 90 DAYS? UH, OR LESS THAN 90 DAYS FOR SH SHORT TERM OR SO? YES, IT HAS A SHORT TERM COMPONENT TO IT.
ONCE YOU UTILIZE THE 90 DAYS, THEN YOU GET INTO YOUR LONG TERM.
AND WE COVER BOTH AND WE COVER BOTH.
SO THIS IS NOW WHICH, AND THEN WHEN IT IN THE, SO THE PAYOUT IS THE SALARY.
THE PAYOUT IS THE SALARY, BUT IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE SALARY.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW LONG YOU'RE HERE MM-HMM.
NOT COVERAGE, BUT OF EMPLOYMENT.
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT SHORT TERM AND LONG-TERM DISABILITY IS ONLY FOR HYBRID MEMBERS.
SO IT IS NOT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
CAUSE THAT'S A PLAN THROUGH VS MM-HMM.
SO WHEN, WHEN, UH, IT'S MANDATORY WHEN MCDONALD, UH, CHANGED VS.
AND DID IT AWAY WITH THE TRADITIONAL PROGRAM.
SO ALL, ALL OF OUR NEWER, YOUNGER EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE THE FULL VRS BENEFIT THAT OUR OLDER EMPLOYEES ENJOY.
AND PART OF THAT CHANGE WAS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T ACCRUE HARDLY ANY, UM, SICK LEAVE.
SO, UM, IN, IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, UM, YOU'RE BASICALLY REQUIRED TO SIGN UP FOR THIS DISABILITY SO THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT LEFT OUT IN THE COLD IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.
CAUSE I KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SOME OF THEIR PRO PROGRAMS, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A, A DISABILITY COMPONENT FOR THE LONGER, FOR THE LONGER SERVING OLDER EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SICK LEAVE AND THAT'S HOW THEY HANDLE IT.
AND ANOTHER MAIN REASON THAT WAS ADDED, WHEN YOU LOOK AT VSS DIFFERENT PLANS VS PLAN ONE, PLAN TWO AND HYBRID THE VS.
PLAN ONE AND PLAN TWO HAD RETIRE DISABILITY RETIREMENT OPTIONS MM-HMM.
THE HYBRID PLAN NO LONGER OFFERED THE DISABILITY RETIREMENT OPTION.
SO IN LIEU OF THAT, THEY MADE IT MANDATORY THAT YOU OFFER A SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM DISABILITY PROGRAM CONFIDENCE TO THE STATE.
SO, BUT REALLY THE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE FAMILY FRIENDLY THING HERE.
SO WHAT THAT TELLS YOU IS SAME EMPLOYEE, SAME JOB IS LIKE A $10,000 PLUS, RIGHT.
ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IF YOU COVER FAMILY, IF YOU HAVE FAMILY HEALTH INSURANCE YES.
JASON, THAT'S A, THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT THING TO SHOW.
SO THIS HERE, THIS IS THE COMPENSATION INCREASE PROPOSAL THAT NEIL PUT IN HIS BUDGET.
THIS IS THE 5%, SEVEN 50, THIS IS THE SLIDE HE WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER ABOUT HOW WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT INCREASE HAS ON THESE VARIOUS DIFFERENT SALARY LEVELS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGE IS GREATER FOR THE LOWER LEVEL EMPLOYEE.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE BENEFIT OF DOING AN ANNUALIZED FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS BECAUSE THAT MORE FAVORABLY IMPACTS THE LOWER SALARY THE EMPLOYEE.
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WHAT THE GOAL WAS.SO, AND IT'S PROBABLY TRUE THAT THE LOWER HALF OF THE WORKFORCE IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION IS THE MOST DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT.
WELL IT'S JUST IN, IT'S JUST BY MIXING A PERCENT AND A DOLLAR AMOUNT, UM, IT ALL IT MEANS IS THAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE AT, FOR THE HIGHER END SALARIES IS A LITTLE BIT LESS.
DO WE HAVE AS MUCH TROUBLE, UH, RECRUITING AND RETAINING $90,000 A YEAR PEOPLE AS $40,000 A YEAR PEOPLE? NO.
BUT THERE, THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE CRITICAL PEOPLE IN THIS WORKFORCE IN THAT RANGE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING AS A, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN OUR, UM, WORKFORCE THAT WE WANT TO SHOW WE VALUE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S PARTLY SHOWING WE VALUE THEM AND IT'S PARTLY WANTING THEM TO STAY WITH US.
AND IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE JOBS ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SAME JOBS IN ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WE, WE GOTTA KEEP OUR RANGES.
SO WHAT THAT ALSO DOES IS, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE OUR RANGES, WHAT FROM WHATEVER GIVEN FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, IT STARTS AND ENDS AND YOU'RE HIRED WITHIN THAT RANGE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING THAT RANGE.
OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE RECRUITING OR PROMOTING DEPUTY DIRECTORS OR, YOU KNOW, CAPTAINS, IT'S NOT COMPETITIVE.
BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE ALMOST, I THINK EVERY YEAR WE'VE HAD A COMPENSATION INCREASE.
I'VE HAD A DOLLAR A DOLLAR COMPONENT FOR GOOD REASON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT OVER TIME, THAT DOES CREATE A LITTLE COMPRESSION AT THE HIGHER END.
SO, SO IF YOU TO, IF YOU TOOK IT OUT COMPLETELY, YOU'D HAVE MORE COMPRESSION AT THE HIGHER.
AND I'LL ALSO ECHO NEIL'S MESSAGE ABOUT VALUE BECAUSE I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T MAKE IT SEEM LIKE WE DON'T VALUE THE HIGHER SALARIED FOLKS EITHER BECAUSE THERE ARE FUTURE LEADERS.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE IN THOSE HIGHER PAYING JOBS, YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE HIGHER LEVEL POSITIONS AND YOU'RE GONNA BE THE FUTURE OF YOUR COUNTY.
SO WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE STICK TO THAT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I ANSWERED MRS. NOEL'S QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHERE DO WE FALL IN THE PACK, RIGHT? OF MM-HMM.
I DIDN'T FORGET YOU, I PROMISE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS INCREASE, AS NEIL ALLUDED TO, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK, PROBABLY A LITTLE TOWARDS THE LOWER END, UM, BASED ON WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES, UM, HAVE AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY SHARED, IT'S ABOUT FIVE TO 7% RANGE INCREASE WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THAT TYPE THING THAT YOU'RE SEEING ACROSS THE SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS CRITICAL AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCALITIES, AS YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T EVEN COME OUT WITH WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO CUZ THEY WAIT.
THEY WAIT TO SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING AND THEN THEY JUMP OUT WITH WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S THAT WAY
SO WE JUST GOTTA BE CAREFUL BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW WAS THE GOAL HERE WAS TO TRY TO HAVE AN INCREASE THAT WAS ENOUGH TO TACKLE INFLATION SO THAT WE COULD HELP OUR EMPLOYEES JUST KEEP UP AND THEN STILL TRY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF A RAISE ON TOP OF INFLATION.
AND SO THE GOAL IS JUST TO TRY TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THAT.
SO GREG GRUTEN HORSE FORECAST FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR FOR INFLATION AND HAMPTON RAISE WAS FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT MM-HMM.
SO IF THAT'S CLOSE, THEN WHAT YOU SEE IS WE COVER INFLATION AND GIVE FOLKS A TWO OR 3% RAISE A PERCENTAGE OF OUR EMPLOYEES RECEIVE $50,000 OR LESS A YEAR.
DOES HE HAVE ANY IDEA? IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO HALF BECAUSE THE MEDIAN SALARY WAS MEDIA 3 7 45.
THAT WAS LITERALLY THE MIDDLE SALARY OF OUR RETIRE WORKFORCE.
I NOTICED WE GOT, WE EVEN TALK ABOUT 30,000.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEONE CAN, AS A FAMILY COULD LIVE ON THAT.
I MEAN, I'M KNOW WHAT THE POVERTY LEVEL IS.
THE, THAT WE, WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME JOBS THAT ARE ON THAT END, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO PUSH THOSE SALARIES UP A LITTLE BIT.
YOU NO IDEA HOW HOW MANY SINGLE PEOPLE WERE GONNA GO.
WE PROBABLY HAVE THAT DATA SOMEWHERE.
UM, PROBABLY HAVE IT SOMEWHERE.
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MEAN, A GOOD INDICATOR MIGHT BE TO SHOW WHEN WE GET TO THE MEDICAL PLAN, BUT THAT, I MEAN, OF COURSE NOT EVERYBODY'S ENROLLED IN THE MEDICAL PLAN, BUT I HAVE IT BROKEN OUT BY EMPLOYEE ONLY.AND THEN SPOUSES, IT MIGHT GIVE US A INSIGHT A LITTLE BIT INTO IT.
ANECDOTALLY, I I WOULD SAY A MAJORITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ARE MARRIED.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT YOUNGER PART OF THE WORKFORCE.
AND NOT THAT ANY OF US AROUND THE TABLE WOULD SUPPORTED, BUT I MEAN, A HELL OF A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE TWO JOBS, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH.
IT WAS NOT HUSBAND AND WIFE IS HUSBAND WITH TWO JOBS.
THEY HAVE TO AND AND IT'S ALL THESE REASONS WHY, AS WE'VE TALKED AROUND THE TABLE TODAY ABOUT INFLATION AND COST AND COST OF LIVING, WHY SOME OF THEM ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT DAYCARE, THAT DAYCARE ONE IS A, IS A BIG ISSUE.
I DON'T HOW WE'RE GONNA, IT'S WHY THEY WANT REMOTE JOBS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PAY FOR GAS AND WEAR AND TEAR ON, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR, THEIR CARS.
SO MOVING ON, LET'S GET INTO THE BENEFITS OVERVIEW.
SO THIS IS REALLY TO SHOW YOU THAT WE STILL MAINTAIN SELF-INSURED FOR MEDICAL AND DENTAL PLANS AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE COVER THE COST OF MEDICAL AND DENTAL CLAIMS. MM-HMM.
UM, THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS THAT WE GET TO CREATE OUR PLAN DESIGN, SO TO SPEAK TO TAYLOR FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS WHERE WELLNESS BECOMES SUCH A BENEFIT FOR US.
AND I'LL TALK ON THE VERY LAST LINE ABOUT OUR WELLNESS INITIATIVES, BUT JUST SO THAT YOU CAN TIE IT TOGETHER, OUR WELLNESS INITIATIVES ARE KEY BECAUSE THE HEALTHIER WE HAVE, OUR WORKFORCE LOWEST COST, THE LOWER THE CLAIMS ARE, RIGHT? SO IT'S A DIRECT IMPACT ON WHAT WE DO HERE.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG THING AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING SELF-INSURED.
NO, WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY SELF-INSURED, ARE WE? WE, I MEAN, THERE'S A POINT WHERE, WHERE AN, UH, AN EMPLOYEE GETS, YOU KNOW, STARTS REALLY SICK AND ENDS UP WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
WE HAVE INSURANCE AND THEN WE HAVE INSURANCE TO COVER INSURANCE.
WE HAVE INSURANCE TO COVER THAT.
WE DO HAVE STOP LOSS INSURANCE.
SO HERE ARE THE THREE HEALTHCARE OPTIONS THAT WE OFFER.
AND THIS IS THE CIGNA CHOICE FUND PLAN, WHICH IS OUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HSA PLAN.
AND HSA IS A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT PLAN.
WE ALSO OFFER THE O A P ONE PLAN, WHICH IS MORE LIKE YOUR POINT OF SERVICE PLAN.
IT'S A, IT'S A PLAN THAT OFFERS IN-NETWORK AND OUT NETWORK BENEFITS.
AND THEN WE OF COURSE HAVE OUR HUMANA MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN.
THIS IS FOR OUR POST 65 RETIREES.
SO THESE ARE THE THREE PLANS THAT WE OFFER.
ARE ALL OF 'EM UNDER CIGNA? THEY'RE ALL, SO THE FIRST TWO WERE UNDER CIGNA, AND THE THIRD ONE IS UNDER HUMANITY.
AND THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN H JUST SAYING O A P IS ONE'S A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE, ONE'S NOT ONE.
SO THE OAP PLAN IS GONNA COST YOU A LITTLE MORE IN PREMIUMS, BUT LESS OUT OF POCKET WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR.
AND THEN IT'S THE OPPOSITE FOR THE HSA PLAN.
IT'S A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE THAT YOU'LL PAY OUT OF POCKET UNTIL YOU MEET YOU TO TALK.
SO THIS SHOWS YOU THE PARTICIPATION BY PLAN.
THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE, OH, I SEE THAT THE LITTLE THING'S A LITTLE OFF, BUT THIS IS THE PARTICIPATION.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE ENROLLMENTS OF JUST SLIGHTLY FROM LAST YEAR, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT 89% OF THAT ENROLLMENT IS IN THE O A P ONE PLAN.
SO THAT IS THE MOST WIDELY UTILIZED PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGES AS YOU LOOK AT THE 50% FOR EMPLOYEES.
THAT 1% IS THAT LITTLE PURPLE STRIP AND THAT'S FOR RETIREES.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE NUMBER OF SPOUSES AND CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE COVERED ON BOTH OF OUR PLANS.
AND THIS AGAIN, SYMBOLIZES THAT VALUE ABOUT OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY PLAN.
THIS IS THE POST 65 RETIREMENT PLAN.
AGAIN, JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 110 MEMBERS AND YOU CAN SEE ONE FOURTH OF THE ENROLLMENT OF SPOUSES AND THEN THE REST ARE OUR RETIREES.
SO THIS IS THE PLAN THAT IS MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.
IT'S A SUPPLEMENT PLAN TO SUPPLEMENT MEDICARE A B.
SO THIS IS A PLAN THAT OUR RETIREES, ONCE THEY REACH 65, CAN TRANSITION TO BECAUSE THEY'LL THE BREAKOUT ON THIS SLIDE.
SO YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, AND THE OTHER ONES TOO.
UH, WHEN YOU BREAK 'EM OUT AS CHILDREN, SPOUSES, DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE THE WHOLE FAMILY OR IS IT, OR IS IT JUST A SPOUSE? IT'S, UH, IT IS COVERED UNDER THE PLAN.
SO MR. CHEVY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS SLIDE? THE ONE YEAH.
WELL IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE THE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
YOU YOU SAY RETIREES AND SPOUSE.
SO YOU'RE DISTINGUISHING TWO PARTS OF THE SAME FAMILY OR YES.
ALL COVERED MEMBERS ARE COUNTED IN THAT TOTAL ENROLLMENT.
SO THAT 1,762 COUNTS ALL COVERED MEMBERS.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE TRACK THAT SEPARATELY, TOM, IS UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE PROBABLY A LOT OF OUR HEALTHCARE, I DON'T, I FORGET THE NUMBER, BUT MAYBE 40 OR 50 PEOPLE CONSUME HALF THE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEIR ILLNESSES AT ALL.
AND SO IT'S INTERESTING TO TRACK WHO'S AN EMPLOYEE VERSUS A SPOUSE.
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THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYERS WHO TAKE THE POSITION, SPOUSE CAN'T BE ON YOUR PROGRAM IF THEIR EMPLOYER HAS HEALTH INSURANCE.UH, WE'VE NEVER TAKEN THAT POSITION, BUT SOME PEOPLE DO.
IF WE WERE JUST STRICTLY, IF MONEY WAS THE ONLY CONSIDERATION, WE COULD SAY NO SPOUSE CAN BE ON OUR PLAN IF THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AT THEIR WORK.
RIGHT? WE DON'T, WE DON'T TAKE THAT POSITION.
UH, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO TRACK BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYERS ON THIS PENINSULA WHO ARE HAPPY TO DUMP, UH, THEIR HIGH COST HEALTH INSURANCE PEOPLE ON OTHERS THAT HAVE, UH, THOSE KIND OF RULES.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO WATCH THAT WE KEEP TRACK OF.
THERE ARE ALSO PLANS THAT OFFER A SPOUSE SURCHARGES.
SO THEY, THEY CHARGE YOU TO HAVE YOUR SPOUSES COVER.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF INCONSISTENT WITH OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHY.
CONTRADICTS THAT, THAT VISION SPOUSE SURCHARGE.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE TO THIS YEAR'S HEALTHCARE.
JUST TO RECAP AND GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
SO WE DID INCREASE OUR PREMIUM RATES BY 10%.
AS YOU MIGHT RECALL FROM THE LAST BUDGET PROCESS, WE DID INCREASE OUR DEDUCTIBLES.
UM, THIS IS FOR THE O A P ONE PLAN OF COURSE, BECAUSE THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN IS THE HSA PLAN.
BUT WE DID INCREASE OUR DEDUCTIBLES FOR THE O A P PLAN FROM 500 TO, I'M SORRY, TWO 502 A THOUSAND FOR FAMILY.
UM, AND IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHERE THIS FALLS WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, MS KNOW, THIS KEEPS US STILL VERY COMPARABLE TO OTHER LOCALITIES.
UM, AND IN FACT, IT'S LOWER THAN ALL THE CITIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE EVEN AS WELL.
SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE DEDUCTIBLE ON THE HIGH PREMIUM? 3000 FOR INDIVIDUAL AND 6,000 FOR FAMILY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE, SO HSA HAS COME WITH AN EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION TO BE PUT INTO THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
WE DID INCREASE OUR EMPLOYEE ONLY TIER THIS YEAR TO 1800 PER YEAR FROM 1200.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ADDED A FAMILY TIER BECAUSE AGAIN, BEING SO FAMILY FRIENDLY, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE WERE CHARGED, THAT WE WERE GIVING THE SAME AMOUNT FOR EMPLOYEES THAT HAD ONE VERSUS FOUR COVERED.
AND SO WE ALSO ADDED A FAMILY TIER, WHICH IN THE WORLD OF HSA FAMILY MEANS ANYTHING MORE THAN EMPLOYEE ONLY.
SO IT CAN MEAN EMPLOYEE AND SPOUSE, EMPLOYEE AND CHILD, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE.
AND SO IT'S 2,400 ANNUALLY THAT WE CONTRIBUTED FOR THAT.
WE ALSO FOR THE FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT, IF HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ENROLLED IN THAT, WE OFFERED A DEBIT CARD FEATURE THIS YEAR.
AND THE DEBIT CARD IS NICE BECAUSE IT SAVES YOU FROM HAVING TO SUBMIT MANUAL REIMBURSEMENTS.
SO YOU JUST GET A DEBIT CARD THAT YOU LITERALLY CAN SWIPE TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR ACCOUNT.
AND SO IT HELPS FOLKS WHEN THEY GO TO PLACES THAT THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THESE SERVICES AND THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO SWIPE THE DEBIT CARD INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY FOR IT OUT FRONT AND THEN GET REIMBURSED LIKE YOUR, SO SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING IN FOR A COLONOSCOPY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT WOULD THEY, THEY USE THE CARD, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY IN THE, ON A CARD OR WHAT? SO YEAH, SO FOR THE HEALTHCARE PLAN, IT IS A, IT'S A PRE-FUNDED PLAN.
SO IF YOU SIGN UP AND YOU SIGN UP TO PUT IN A THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THAT PLAN, OVER TIME, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR, WHATEVER YOUR COPAY OR YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS THAT YOU NEED TO PAY FOR, YOU COULD SWIPE YOUR CARD TO ACTUALLY GET THAT MONEY OUT OF YOUR ACCOUNT.
TO PAY THE BILL, PAY THE BILL TO KEEP TRACK.
YOU DON'T 18, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS IN CASE YOU AUDIT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
WE ALSO ADDED A ROLLOVER FEATURE AND WE ADDED THIS BECAUSE WITH FSAS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, YOU LOSE THE MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT YOU DON'T USE.
NOW YOU GET A GRACE PERIOD TO USE IT.
AND SO FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES, THAT MAY BE SLIGHTLY OVERESTIMATE, WE DID PUT IN THE ROLLOVER FEATURE SO THAT AT LEAST $570 CAN ROLL OVER INTO THE NEXT PLAN YEAR IF THEY ENROLL AGAIN.
SO THAT IF THEY DIDN'T USE IT, THEY AT LEAST GET TO CARRY THAT OVER INTO THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S BEEN A HELPFUL PIECE AS WELL.
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S OFFERED THROUGH CIGNA AND THIS IS REALLY TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES AND ANY ADULT DEPENDENTS THAT THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE ON THE CUSP OF BEING TYPE TWO DIABETES OR WITH HEART DISEASE, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT HELPS PROVIDE THEM SOME TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT AND MAYBE BE A LITTLE HEALTHIER WITH THEIR LIFESTYLE CHANGES.
SO THIS PROGRAM IS AGAIN, ANOTHER EFFORT FOR US TO KEEP OUR WORKFORCE HEALTHIER, WHICH HAS AN IMPACT ON US BECAUSE IT WAS SELF INSURED WITH CLAIMS. MM-HMM.
THIS IS INFORMATION HERE ON THE SLIDE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE 24 CALENDAR YEAR, WHICH IS OUR PLAN YEAR.
AND WE ARE AGAIN FORECASTING A
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10% INCREASE, WHICH IS THE SAME AS IT WAS FOR THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE IN.SO WE DID NOT INCREASE THAT FOR UM, MEDICAL.
AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, WE DO NOT HAVE A JOINT ACCOUNT WITH SCHOOLS ANY LONGER WITH MEDICAL, BUT WE DO MAINTAIN THAT JOINT ACCOUNT WITH DENTAL.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON SOME OTHER SLIDES, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT WITH DENTAL, BUT YOU'LL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DO CURRENTLY MAINTAIN THAT JOINT ACCOUNT WITH SCHOOLS FOR DENTAL.
AND THEN OF COURSE OUR HUMANA PLAN, THAT RATE IS BASED ON UTILIZATION AND WE DO NOT TYPICALLY GET THAT RATE UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF EACH YEAR.
SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THAT RATE'S GONNA BE.
CURRENTLY IT'S 243 PER MEMBER PER MONTH.
AND OF COURSE IF YOU'RE A RETIREE THAT MEETS THE 20 YEAR CRITERIA TO GET THE 50% COUNTY CONTRIBUTION, THEN IT'S 50% ON TOP, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT 2 43.
SO IT WOULD BE A HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE FIFTY.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WE APPLY THAT 10% INCREASE, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN RED REPRESENT THE INCREASE AMOUNT.
THESE RATES DO DEPICT MONTHLY RATES.
AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PAID ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS.
IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE O A P ONE PLAN AT THE FAMILY LEVEL, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST TIER, AND YOU SEE THAT $53 INCREASE PER MONTH, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A 26 50 INCREASE PER PAY PERIOD FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO JUST TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO A PER PAY PERIOD AMOUNT, THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT'S TRADITIONAL INSURANCE FAMILY PLAN.
AND, AND THE REASON WE SHOW THIS SLIDE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY HEARS A PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, MY, MY COST, MY HEALTH INSURANCE IS GOING UP 10%.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT IF IT'S AN ACTUAL DOLLARS PER PAYCHECK, IT'S NOT A CRAZY INCREASE RELATIVE TO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE COMPANY.
SO THE FAMILY WOULD, THAT'S THE $53 IS THE FAMILY INCREASE THEIR CONTRIBUTION PER MONTH.
SO IF YOU BREAK IT TO A PER PAY PERIOD, IT'S 26 50 26.
SO AS WE GO INTO DENTAL, THIS JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR CURRENT PLAN OPTIONS ARE FOR DENTAL.
SO WE DO HAVE THE PPO PLUS PREMIER PLAN AND WE DO HAVE THE EPO PLAN.
BOTH OF THESE ARE WITH DELTA DENTAL.
THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO PLANS, AGAIN, EPO IS GONNA BE YOUR SMALLER NETWORK.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NATIONWIDE NETWORK IS GONNA HAVE THE FLAT CO-PAY AMOUNTS FOR FEES.
SO IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHO YOUR DENTIST IS AND, AND YOU'RE NOT SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR DENTIST AND YOU'RE NOT WORRIED IT'S A SMALL NETWORK, THAT'S AN IDEAL PLAN FOR YOU.
THE, THE PREMIUMS ARE USUALLY LOWER.
WHICH ONE IS THIS? THE EPO PLAN.
THE PREMIUMS ARE USUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT HERE AT THE COUNTY OUR RATES ARE REALLY NOT FAR AWAY.
SO THAT MOST PEOPLE YOU'LL SEE IN THE ENROLLMENT SLIDE, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT MOST PEOPLE ENROLLED IN THE PPO PLUS PLAN CUZ IT'S MAYBE A DOLLAR DIFFERENCE FOR A NATIONWIDE NETWORK AND, AND WAY BETTER COVERAGE.
SO YES, WE HAVE GOOD, THE BOTTOM LINE, WE HAVE GOOD DENTAL, REAL GOOD INSURANCE AND IT'S NOT CHANGING.
SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT ALL THE THINGS ARE OFF CUZ THEY'RE NOT ON, ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, IF THIS SAYS YOU'RE CRAZY NOT TO HAVE THE PREMIER PLUS YES.
SO AS YOU SEE, ONLY 35 MEMBERS ARE ENROLLED IN THE EPO PLAN AND YOU MIGHT ASK YOURSELF, WELL WHY DO WE EVEN OFFER IT? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD, BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOINT ACCOUNT WITH SCHOOLS.
EPO PLAN IS THE PLAN THAT THE SCHOOLS WANTED TO OFFER.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BOTH.
BUT A MAJORITY OF OUR FOLKS, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE ALL IN THE PPO PLUS PREMIER PLAN.
BUT AGAIN, WE OFFER BOTH BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS WANTED TO HAVE EPO PLAN.
SO WE OFFER A BETTER PROGRAM YES.
FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BETTER PROGRAM.
YES, IT IS A REALLY GOOD PLANT.
CAN CAN THE SCHOOLS, SOME SOME PEOPLE BUY, THEY CAN GO TO EITHER PLANT, EITHER PLANT, THEY, THEY JUST WANTED THE OTHER, THEY JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, THEY WANTED THE OP.
THEY WANTED TO OFFER THE CHOICE.
DOES IT COST US MORE TO HAVE TWO PLANS? NO, IT'S DOESN'T, IT'S NEGLIGIBLE.
IT'S JUST THE ADMINISTRATION OF TWO PLANS IS ALL.
IF WE APPLY THAT 10% INCREASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, LIKE MR. SHE, BUT IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE PPO PLAN OR THE EPO PLAN, IN THIS CASE AT THE FAMILY LEVEL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $2 INCREASE PER MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE A DOLLAR INCREASE PER PAY PERIOD.
SO THE DENTAL RATES LOOK REALLY GOOD.
LASTLY, I'LL TALK ABOUT WELLNESS.
THESE ARE THE WELLNESS INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THIS YEAR.
WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN WALK TO WELLNESS, WHICH IS A SERIOUS THING HERE IN YORK COUNTY AS I HAVE COME TO LEARN
UM, WE HAD 111 PARTICIPANTS SIGN UP, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS WALK TO WELLNESS.
SO THEY HAVE THREE MONTHS TO WALK AND THE ONE WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER
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OF MILES WALKED WINS AND THEY WIN THIS GREAT GIFT THAT'S GONNA BE A YETI COOLER.UM, IF YOU LIKE YETI AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THOSE, THAT'S A FABULOUS GIFT.
THE SPRING COOKING DEMO, THIS IS A LIKE BACKED BY POPULAR DEMAND.
EVERYBODY LOVED THIS BECAUSE IT WAS A WAY TO HELP YOU COOK HEALTHIER.
THE BLOOD DRIVE, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO TWICE A YEAR IN APRIL AND OCTOBER.
AND ONE THING THAT WE ARE DOING THIS YEAR IS WE ARE EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF LOCATIONS SO THAT IT'S NO LONGER JUST AT ONE LOCATION AND WE'RE GOING OUT TO DIFFERENT WORK SITES SO THAT WE CAN HELP EMPLOYEES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GOING SO FAR OUT OF THE WAY TO BE ABLE TO COME AND DONATE BLOOD IF THEY CAN.
YOU KNOW, EVERY WEDNESDAY WE DO A WELLNESS TRIVIA AND THEN OF COURSE WE'D SEND OUT A HEALTHY PERSPECTIVES NEWSLETTER.
SO AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE AN EFFORT TO HELP KEEP OUR WORKFORCE HEALTHY SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN LOW CLAIMS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
AND CIGNA IS A GREAT PARTNER BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE US WELLNESS DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO DO WELLNESS INITIATIVES LIKE THIS.
AND SO IT'S A, IT'S A DIRECT POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY.
THE SPRING COOKING DEMO DOESN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CHILI.
THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE BANNED.
WE DO HAVE, UH, A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE AT RISK OF DIABETES IN OUR WORKFORCE.
SO THAT'S VERY COMMON IN THIS REGION.
BUT, SO THAT'S A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, HOW TO COOK, ENCOURAGE AN EXERCISE AND ALL ARE TRYING TO HOLD THAT DIABETES RIGHT DOWN MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE OOMA PROGRAM IS BENEFICIAL.
IT'S THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE ARE THEM TO TACKLE.
SO THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE.
UM, YEARS, UH, YEARS AGO WE ENDED UP SACRIFICING OUR EMPLOYEES TO, UH, HOLD, HOLD COST DOWN FOR OUR CITIZENS AND IT AND PART OF THAT WE ENDED UP WITH AN AN, UH, A A A PRETTY GROSS IMBALANCE OF COMPENSATION, UH, BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
HOW IS THAT NOW? UM, IT'S BASICALLY EQUALIZED, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD.
WE, WE TRIED TO MERGE, WE GOT HALFWAY, WE COULDN'T QUITE PULL IT OFF.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES IN THE WORKFORCES, BUT I WILL GIVE THE SCHOOLS CREDIT FOR RAISING THEIR EMPLOYEE COST SO THAT IT'S PRETTY COMPARABLE WITH MOMS. OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO HERE.
YOU VERY MUCH REALLY APPRECIATE THE DETAIL.
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WE'VE COMPLETED THAT PART AND SO GO TO THE CONSENT, UH, CALENDAR AND LET'S SEE, DO WE AMEND, UH, NUMBER TWO? SEE, UH, MINUTES.UH, THE MARCH 7TH NUMBER THREE IS EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH, UH, WITH DOMINION ENERGY OR, UH, NEW PUMP STATION.
UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THAT ONE.
UM, THAT THERE WAS ANY CON CONDEMNATION OR ANYTHING WAS THERE? NO, IT'S, UH, WE'RE GIVEN DOMINION AND EASEMENT SO THEY CAN MOVE SOMETHING SO WE CAN OPERATE THE PUMP STATION.
ANY UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THOSE? NO.
ASK FOR, UH, THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ROLL CALL ON THAT MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMBA IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
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OKAY.[OPEN DISCUSSION ]
OKAY, LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM.YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT PASS ON? WELL, SOMETHING I BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.
SO WE HAD A PROJECT, WE LOOKED AT THE CHARLES A WATERLINE ON CHARLES ROAD.
IT'S A TOTAL OF SEVEN HOMES THERE.
IT'S KIND OF BE EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
AND WE DID THE NORMAL SUBMISSION OF HEY, WHO'S INTERESTED IN, AND IT FELL, FOUR OF THE SEVEN HOMES WE'RE INTERESTED IN IT.
SO THAT FALLS BELOW THE TARGETED PERCENTAGE THAT WE WOULD USUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A, UH, WITH THE WATERLINE PROJECT.
THE ONE GOTCHA THOUGH IS THAT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE HOME ON THAT ROUTE THAT HAS A FAILED WELL, WHICH MAKES ME CONCERNED THAT OTHER WELLS MAY FAIL.
AND IN WHICH CASE, WHERE DOES THAT PUT THE COUNTY IN TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE FOLKS WITH AWARD WIDE? SO I DON'T ASK WANT US TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS IN, IT WAS IN SOME OF THE READ AHEAD.
UM, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PUT SOME THOUGHT IN HOW WE CAN KIND OF HELP HELP THESE FOLKS OUT SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.
MAY WE MAYBE WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WATERLINE EVEN THOUGH THE PERCENTAGE IS DOWN OR SOMETHING.
BUT, UH, WHAT ROAD IS THIS? CHARLES ROAD.
RIGHT OFF LAKE LAKE LAKESIDE, BASICALLY.
SO ONE WELD HAS FAILED AND THEY HAD, WHAT ARE THEY DOING ABOUT IT? WELL, THEY,
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WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT HE'S DOING ABOUT, HE'S KIND OF WAITING TO HEAR WHAT, WHAT THE COUNTY IS GONNA DO WITH THE WATERLINE.BUT EVEN SO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE, DON'T WE, OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO SIGN ON.
WE HAVE A TARGET THAT WE, WE LOOK AT.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF A PROJECT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS A FAILURE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ONE FAIL, YOU HAVE A SECOND FAIL, THEN YOU HAVE A THIRD FAIL, THEN, THEN, THEN WHERE ARE WE AT? SO JUST KIND OF WANNA GET AHEAD OF THAT.
SO WANNA PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO HOW WE REMEMBER EXISTING WATER LIGHT IS FAILING THE HIS WELL IS FAILING.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT HE'S NOT GETTING WATER OUT OF THE WELL OR THE WELLS CONTAMINATED OR WHAT IT MEANS HE'S NOT GETTING WATER AT IT.
AND AT THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO HIM, HE WAS RUNNING A HOSE FROM ANOTHER PROPERTY OVER TO HIS, OVER TO THAT PROPERTY.
DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ONE RESIDENCE SHORT OF THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENCES.
WELL BECAUSE IT'S SEVEN HOMES, YOU ONE MORE HOME SAYING YES WOULD PUT YOU OVER.
FIVE OR SEVEN, SEVEN OF AND I THINK THERE'RE A COUPLE OF 'EM ARE LOTS.
SO THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T ALL LOTS.
AND, UH, SO IT, WOULD THIS BE IN A, IN THE ORDER OF SEQUENCE OF UH, WATER PROJECTS OR WHAT? WELL, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE DONE UP TO NOW WAS WE FOLLOWED THE PRE PROCEDURE THAT WE'VE USED BEFORE, UH, JUST TO SEE IF WHAT THE LEVEL OF INTEREST WAS AND THEN WE JUST REPORTED THAT, WELL BASICALLY IF ONE PERSON'S VOTED THEN DIFFERENT IT WOULD'VE MADE THE CUT.
UM, AND OF COURSE IT'S A, IF WE WERE TO DO IT, IT'S A THREE YEAR THING TO DESIGN MM-HMM.
I WAS JUST ASKING MARK, UH, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS SOMEBODY'S OPTION WHEN THEIR WELL FAILS? AND I DON'T KNOW STEVEN IF, I MEAN, CAN THEY, CAN THEY PUT IN A DEEP WATER? WELL, I MEAN, CAN THEY, WHAT ARE THEIR OPTIONS IF THEY EXHAUSTED THEIR OPTIONS AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT THAT EITHER, BUT, SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.
WHAT IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF ANOTHER COUPLE PEOPLE HAD A WELL THAT DIDN'T WORK CUZ THEY COULDN'T WAIT FOR THREE YEARS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE, IF WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING, WE COULD FIX IT NEXT WEEKEND.
DO UM, DO WE AND THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRE WATER IN A HOUSE AS PART OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY? YEAH, IF, UH, PROBABLY, UH, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WOULD, UH, IF THERE WAS NOT WATER WOULD CONDEMN THE HOUSE.
SO IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE THE PERSON NEEDS, UH, SOME SORT OF COUNTY GRANT OR SOMETHING TO, TO PUT A WELL IN? I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP SITUATION AS FAR AS I KNOW.
I, I DIDN'T GET DONE IN THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
AND IT WAS MORE LIKE IF IT COULD HAPPEN THEN MAYBE I'LL WAIT FOR THAT.
OR IF IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THEN MAYBE I'LL JUST DO IT MYSELF.
BUT, BUT IF IT'S ONE AND THEN TWO AND THEN THREE, I, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE, ONE THING WE COULD DO AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS BETWEEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS IS WHAT, WHAT IS SOMEBODY'S OPTION IF THEIR WELL FAILS? I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE AT SOME EXPENSE YOU COULD SINK A NEW WELL AND GO DEEPER.
UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, OH FAILURE YOU DONE IT WITH THE FAILURE IS, IS THE FAILURE COLLAPSE OF THE PIPE OR IS IT A, A METAL PIPE OR SOMETHING IT DRY OR WHAT AVST PIPE OR IS IT, WOULD IT BE USEFUL FOR US TO LIKE MAYBE GIVE YOU SOME QUICK REPORT ON WHAT SOMEBODY'S OPTIONS NEED TO BE IN THAT SITUATION? AGAIN, LOOK, LOOKING FOR OPTIONS HERE, SO, ALRIGHT THEN.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN ENGINEERING WISE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, SO.
HEY SHEILA, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NO, I DON'T.
THE ONLY THING I'VE GOT IS MS. NEXT BECOMES YOUR FRIEND
I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL LOT COFFIN.
NO CLOSING, WE'LL MEETING TONIGHT.
UH, WE'LL ADJOURN TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS.
IT'LL BE HELD, UH, AT 6:00 PM ON TUESDAY, APRIL THE 18TH IN THE BOARDROOM OF YOUR CALL.