[Call to Order]
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UM, WELCOME TO, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR FEBRUARY, UH, THE 21ST.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
THE INVOCATION TODAY WILL BE GIVEN BY, UH, WELL, WE COULD REFER TO HIM AS PASTOR DOUG.
IT'S DOUG EELS OF THE, UH, BETHEL BAPTIST CHURCH.
PASTOR DOUG, IF YOU PLEASE COME BACK, COME FORWARD AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR CHURCH BEFORE YOU GIVE THE INVOCATION, PLEASE.
BETHEL BAPTIST CHURCH IS, UH, FOUNDED AT 1840.
AND, UH, WE, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE 183 YEARS OLD, WE HAVE A, UH, VIBRANT MINISTRY FOR ALL DIFFERENT AGES.
I HAVE, UH, PRESCHOOL, MIDDLE PRESCHOOL CHILDREN, STUDENTS WORSHIP MINISTRY, UH, MINISTRY TO THE MILITARY, AND, UH, SO WE'VE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, ACTIVE IN SENDING MISSIONARIES, UM, IN THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
SO, UH, WE'RE ACTIVE CHURCH IN THE AREA.
I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF, UH, YORK COUNTY.
FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE.
GOD, YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT COMES FROM ABOVE.
SO, FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GIFTS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO US.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS THAT MAKE UP YORK COUNTY.
WE THANK YOU, FATHER FOR, UH, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WORK EVERY DAY TO KEEP US SAFE AND TO PROTECT US.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE IN OUR SCHOOLS, THOSE WHO DRIVE OUR BUSES.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WE PRAY, GOD, THAT YOU HAD BLESSED THEM TONIGHT AS THEY MEET, AS THOSE COME TO SPEAK.
FATHER, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE GREAT WISDOM.
LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD HELP THEM TO MAKE WISE AND GOOD DECISIONS.
GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE SHOWERED UPON US, AND WE THANK YOU, GOD, MOST OF ALL, FOR SENDING US YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST.
PASTOR DOUG, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME DOWN FOR THE IMPLICATION TONIGHT.
EVERYONE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND I WOULD ASK, UH, SUPERVISOR ROME, IF YOU PLEASE LEAD US.
PLEASE JOIN ME, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE NATION, LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR THANK YOU.
[1* Colonial Soil and Water Conservation District: Provide an update on the recent projects within York County and share details on the cost-sharing programs offered for citizens. ]
THIS EVENING WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS AND UM, FIRST ONE WILL BE I'LL CALL ON TIM BES TIM HERE.HEY, SO TIM'S THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR, UH, YORK COUNTY'S THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, UH, SOIL AND WATER BOARD CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
SO THE SOIL AND WATER'S REFERRED TO.
UH, WE'VE GOT ROBIN WALSEY, SHE'S GONNA BE DOING THE PRESENTATION FOR US ON BEHALF OF COLONIAL SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE GROWN OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS AND WE'RE BRANCHING OUT AND WE'RE DOING THINGS, UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN A LOT MORE FOCUSED ON THE AGRICULTURAL SIDE, BUT, UH, WITH THE GROWING URBAN ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WE ARE IN, WE ARE DOING A LOT MORE THINGS THAT ARE URBAN IN NATURE.
AND, UH, ROBIN'S GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THAT TODAY.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A REAL ACTIVE BOARD THAT, UH, WE ARE JUST, UH, FOCUSING ON DOING A LOT MORE THINGS THAT, UH, WOULD BE CONDUCIVE AND WE'RE LEVERAGING MONEY FROM, UH, GRANTS THAT, UH, WILL BRING SOME MORE BENEFIT TO OUR CITIZEN COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TRY TO SHOW AND BRING FORTH CITIZENS AND, UH, TELL, TELL Y'ALL ABOUT TONIGHT.
I'M GONNA HIT UP THE BROCHURE.
CAN I GIVE Y'ALL SOME BROCHURES, IF YOU DON'T MIND? UH, SURE.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US OUT TONIGHT.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN RAISE IT UP.
YOU CAN SAY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? SORRY, PULL IT TOWARDS ME.
UM, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME AT ANY TIME.
SO, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE COLONIAL SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN TELL IN THIS IMAGE HERE THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR SERVICE AREA.
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DISTRICT COVERS CHARLES CITY COUNTY, NEW KENT COUNTY, UH, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, YORK, YORK COUNTY, OF COURSE, AND THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG.SO THOSE ARE ALL OUTLINED HERE.
UM, ONE THING WE ALWAYS TRY TO POINT OUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, UM, WE ARE ALL, ALL OF US ACROSS THE STATE ARE NON-REGULATORY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DO NOT CARRY ANY ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY OR, UM, ABILITY, CAPACITY TO ISSUE FINES OR VIOLATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, EVERYTHING WE DO IS VOLUNTARY.
SO WE FIND THAT THAT GIVES US A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND BUILD TRUST WITH OUR LANDOWNERS.
UM, LIKE TIM MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH IN THE PAST, UM, 10 YEARS OR SO, EVEN IN THE PAST, UM, THREE MONTHS, WE'VE WELCOMED, WE'VE WELCOMED THREE NEW STAFF PEOPLE, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD.
AND WE NOW HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF OF SEVEN MEMBERS AND TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVERYTHING WE DO DO FOCUSES ON VOLUNTARY CONSERVATION.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH, UM, AS MANY TECHNICAL AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES INTO THE HANDS OF THOSE THAT NEED THEM AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ALONG THOSE LINES, WE ALSO DO A LOT OF EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AS WELL.
OF COURSE, OUR SERVICE AREA IS BOUND BY TWO MAJOR RIDGE RIVER SYSTEMS IN VIRGINIA, THE YORK AND THE JAMES.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE QUITE A FEW TRI TRIBUTARIES THROUGHOUT OUR SERVICE AREA THAT WE FOCUS ON AS WELL.
AND LIKE TO MENTION, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF URBAN AND SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, ACROSS THE SERVICE AREA.
SO THAT'S ONE, UM, ONE TARGET AUDIENCE WE'RE LOOKING AT QUITE A BIT, BUT, UM, WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION OUR AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS. UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT OUR STRONGEST PROGRAM IN NEW YORK COUNTY, WE HAVE STILL SPENT, UM, A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS OF STATE FUNDING HERE IN THE COUNTY WORKING WITH, UM, AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
UM, MOST COMMONLY ARE PRACTICES FUNDED HERE INCLUDE NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT, SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, APPLYING AND UTILIZING OUR FERTILIZERS CORRECTLY.
UM, ALONG WITH NO-TILL AGRICULTURE.
UM, WE DO ALSO WORK WITH THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION ACT QUITE A BIT IN OUR AGRICULTURAL SECTOR AS WELL.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, UM, THE FIRST OF WHICH BEING THE DOMINION AND MARATHON.
SO THAT IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM.
UM, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A CONSERVATION THEMED COMPETITION FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
SO WE HAVE TEAMS OF STUDENTS THAT GET TOGETHER, UM, AND THEY COMPETE AGAIN, UM, AGAINST OTHER SCHOOLS AND OTHER TEAMS, UM, TO HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY RE THE STATE REACH THE STATE LEVEL COMPETITION.
UM, HERE IN JUST ABOUT A MONTH OR SO, THE COLONIAL DISTRICT IS GONNA HOST A REGIONAL COMPETITION, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UM, AND HOPING THAT WE SEE A LOT OF GREAT STUDENTS OUT FOR THAT COMPETITION.
UM, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR LARGEST EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UM, WE WORK WITH THE YOUTH CONSERVATION CAMP, ANOTHER STATEWIDE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, THIS IS A WEEK LONG CAMP THAT STUDENTS GET TO ATTEND AT VIRGINIA TECH, UM, DURING THE SUMMER.
AND WE ARE ALWAYS PROUD TO SPONSOR SEVERAL STUDENTS, UM, FOR THAT CAMP EVERY SUMMER.
UM, THIS, THIS PHOTO THAT YOU SEE HERE, THESE THREE STUDENTS, UM, WE'RE STUDENTS THAT WE GOT TO SUPPORT LAST YEAR, AND I CAN'T RECALL WHICH ONE, BUT ONE OF THEM IS FROM YORK COUNTY.
SO WE WERE EXCITED TO SEND THEM ALONG FOR THAT EXPERIENCE.
UM, WE ALSO ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.
UM, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS OUR WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITY GROWERS.
UM, THEY ARE A NONPROFIT THAT OPERATES A TEACHING FARM IN A COMMUNITY GARDEN UP IN JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UM, THEY ARE CLOSE ENOUGH BY THAT.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MEMBERS AND, UM, GARDENERS FROM YORK COUNTY AS WELL, SO ARE ALWAYS, UM, WELCOMING TO FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE WILLIAMSBURG REGION.
YES, UM, WE ACTUALLY, THE COLONIAL DISTRICT RECEIVED A FARM TO SCHOOL GRANT, UM, BACK IN 2021 THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT PROVIDED JUST OVER $90,000 IN FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH MORE STUDENTS ACROSS WILLIAMSBURG, UM, INCLUDING STUDENTS FROM YORK COUNTY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE VERY THRILLED, UM, TO RECEIVE THAT.
AND THEN WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, AT LEAST HALF, USUALLY MORE OF THE PRODUCE THAT HAS GROWN IN THE TEACHING FARM IS DONATED TO, UM, LOCAL FOOD PANTRIES AND FOLKS IN NEED.
SO JUST LAST YEAR IN 2022, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE DONATION OF OVER 3000 POUNDS OF THAT FRESHLY GROWN PRODUCE TO COMMUNITIES IN NEED.
UM, AND THEN GETTING INTO OUR URBAN PROGRAMS, UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE MORE APPLICABLE PROGRAMS FOR YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS.
UM, THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE VIRGINIA CONSERVATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, OR VCAP FOR SHORT.
UM, THAT IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM.
IT IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.
SO HERE FOR THE COLONIAL DISTRICT, THAT IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I WORK ON THE MOST.
UM, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE BOTH TECHNICAL AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE AND WHO QUALIFY, UM, TO INSTALL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
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PRACTICES ON THEIR PROPERTY HERE IN YORK COUNTY.UM, THE MOST POPULAR PRACTICE WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY LIVING SHORELINES.
SO WE KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SHORELINE, UM, THROUGHOUT YORK COUNTY.
AND SO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, UP TO $30,000 OF ASSISTANCE TO INSTALL LIVING SHORELINES FOR FOLKS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE AND WHO QUALIFY.
UM, OTHER COMMON PRACTICES IN YORK COUNTY HAVE BEEN PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, SO WE'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW FOLKS LOOK AT REPLACING THEIR DRIVEWAYS WITH PERMEABLE DRIVEWAYS, UM, THINGS THAT HELP CAPTURE AND MITIGATE THAT STORMWATER RUNOFF.
UM, AND WE HAVE HAD QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST IN RAIN GARDENS AS WELL, SO WE WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE PRACTICES.
UM, BUT THIS IS JUST, UM, A LISTING OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND IN YORK COUNTY OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY ARE LIVING SHORELINES.
UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PERMEABLE PAVEMENT PROJECTS, UM, AND THAT ONE RAIN GARDEN AS WELL, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE COLUMNS QUICKLY.
UM, THAT, UH, SECOND COLUMN FROM THE LEFT, THE TOTAL COST IS JUST THE TOTAL COST OF THAT PROJECT.
THE COST HERE PROVIDED, UM, THAT IS THE STATE FUNDING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN AND HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS FOR THE LANDOWNER LANDOWNER THEMSELVES.
UM, AND LASTLY, THE LAST COLUMN IS THAT REMAINING LANDOWNER EXPENSE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE BROUGHT IN OVER $140,000 OF STATE FUNDING SPECIFICALLY TO HELP YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS ADDRESS, UM, STORMWATER ISSUES AND, UH, WITH THE LIVING SHORELINES, UM, EROSION ISSUES AS WELL.
SO WE'RE QUITE PROUD OF THAT AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS GROW.
JUST SOME QUICK PHOTOS OF SOME OF THOSE PRACTICES.
UM, THE TWO ON THE FARTHEST LEFT, OF COURSE, ARE LIVING SHORELINES, THE MIDDLE PHOTO ON THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM.
I LIKE THIS IS A LIVING SHORELINE AS WELL.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL VERY NEWLY PLANTED, SO WE HOPE TO SEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS A REALLY DENSE MARSH GRASS FILLING IN, UM, ON THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UM, PERMEABLE PAVEMENT PROJECT UP IN THE SECOND FROM THE LEFT, AND THEN OUR RAIN GARDEN ON FARTHEST ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'VE STARTED UP THAT WE HOPE TO BRING, UM, FURTHER INTO YORK COUNTY.
UM, AGAIN, GOING ALONG WITH THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS WE'VE SEEN FOR SHORELINE ASSISTANCE, UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVEN BEYOND VCAP, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO EDUCATE FOLKS ABOUT THEIR SHORELINE AND TO PROVIDE, UM, EVEN MORE OUTREACH ASSISTANCE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT SHORELINES.
SO THIS IS A PROGRAM WE'VE DEVELOPED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE, UM, WILLIAMSBURG MASTER GARDENERS, AND WE HAVE JUST LAUNCHED THAT AS OF JULY OF, UM, THIS PAST YEAR.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO BRING EVEN MORE INTEREST IN THAT IN YORK COUNTY AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
OF COURSE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE HORIZON AS WELL.
UM, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE, WE SEEK SUPPORT FROM ALL OF OUR LOCALITIES, ALL OF OUR MEMBER LOCALITIES TO CONTINUE THESE EFFORTS EVERY YEAR.
UM, SO YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT IN YOUR, UM, BUDGET REQUEST.
WE ARE, AGAIN, ALWAYS LOOKING AT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
I MENTIONED THE FARM TO SCHOOL GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON NOW.
UM, WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO BRING, UM, EVEN MORE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING INTO THE REGION TO HELP MORE FOLKS OUT.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE URBAN GROWTH, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT MORE, UM, URBAN AND SUBURBAN FOCUSED PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT NEW PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS AS WELL.
SO HERE'S OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
UM, WE HAVE TWO ELECTED DIRECTORS FROM NEW YORK COUNTY, OF COURSE, UM, GEORGE CLARK AND PAM MASON.
UM, OUR ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, TIM BEAL YOU JUST HEARD FROM.
AND, UM, WE ARE ALSO VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE MEGAN TIERNEY, THE YORK COUNTY BCE AGENT ON OUR BOARD AS WELL.
OUR DISTRICT MANAGER IS JIM WALLACE, AND THEN I AM ROBIN WOOEY.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US.
UM, AND OUR WEBSITE IS, IS LISTED THERE AS WELL.
GEORGE, GET, UH,
WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE IN YEARS.
SO THE WORK THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION'S BEEN DOING IS SLOWLY STARTING TO PAY OFF.
NOW WE'RE ALMOST HAVE BALDED EAGLES BACK NOW.
WE CAN'T TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT HEY, IF THEY WERE GONE, WE'D GET BLAMED.
BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE GRASSES WE HAVE MEANS WE HAVE FEEDER FISHES, MORE CRABS, THAT MEANS THERE'S FOOD FOR BALD EAGLES.
SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY STARTING TO WORK OUT.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION, IT'S NOT AN ORGANIZATION THAT FORCES PEOPLE TO, TO, TO DO SOMETHING.
WE PARTNER WITH YOU, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING THERE.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT REAL QUICK.
UH, ONE OTHER THING WE FORGOT TO MENTION, UH, ONE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE IN JAMES CITY COUNTY IS
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THE, UH, TURF LOVE.AND, UH, ROBERT, COULD YOU MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? SURE.
UM, TURF LOVE IS AN OFFSHOOT OF THE HEALTHY VIRGINIA LAWNS PROGRAM.
GET OVER BY THE MICROPHONES, PLEASE.
TURF LOVE IS, UM, AN OFFSHOOT OF THE HEALTHY VIRGINIA LAWNS PROGRAM, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE INITIATIVE, UM, HOSTED BY THE VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION.
UM, SO THAT IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, UM, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THEIR LAWNS IN A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONS, UH, RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
UM, SO WE DO QUITE A FEW SITE VISITS AND HOME VISITS WITH FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATE THERE.
UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH MEGAN TIERNEY, UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE'S BEEN ON THE BOARD NOW FOR A FEW YEARS, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROGRAM KIND OF ALIGNS WITH, WITH HER, UM, HEALTHY VIRGINIA LAWNS PROGRAM HERE IN YORK COUNTY AS WELL.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT, UM, RESOURCE SHARING AND, AND INFORMATION SHARING OUT OF THAT PARTNERSHIP TOO.
SO THAT HELPS, THAT HELPS TO REDUCE THE NUTRIENT LOAD THAT'S GOING INTO THE BAY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE, UH, ALGAE BLOOMS THAT COME INTO THE BAY, UH, EVERY SEASON.
SO REDUCING THE SEDIMENTATION AND RUNOFF WITH THE LIVING SHORELINES, UH, FARMLANDS THAT WE ARE REDUCING NUTRIENT LOAD INTO THE BAY.
UH, ALL THIS IS IMPROVING THE QUALITY AND THE, THE HABITAT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE BAY.
UH, ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT WE HAD, UH, ONE OF OUR ENVIROTHON TEAMS THAT WENT TO THE, UH, NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION, AND THEY WON THAT COMPETITION IN 2019.
THAT WAS JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL, SO MM-HMM.
IT GETS SOME OF YOUNG FOLKS MORE INVOLVED IN, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, ECOLOGICAL, UH, AND SCIENTIFIC TYPE OF BACKGROUNDS THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE JOB GROWTH IN THAT TYPE OF, UH, UH, JOBS IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, ONE OTHER THING THAT I WILL MENTION IS THE, UH, THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THOSE GRANTS AND FUNDING AND, UH, STATE MONEY AND BRING THAT HERE TO YORK COUNTY SO THAT, UH, WE CAN IMPROVE NOT ONLY THE QUALITY OF AIR BAY, BUT UH, HELP OUT THE CITIZENS HERE IN YORK COUNTY WITH SOME OF THAT FUNDING THAT, THAT WE CAN BRING HERE FOR US AS.
SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND, AND JUST, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME BROCHURES THAT GEORGE BROUGHT.
UH, THIS, UH, THIS, UH, GIVES YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE VCAP PROGRAM.
IF ANYBODY HERE WANTS TO PICK UP SOME OF THOSE AND, UH, SHARE THAT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS, UH, WE CERTAINLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OVER HERE? GOT A QUESTION? YEAH.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR COMING AND SHARING TONIGHT.
AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE REHABILITATION, UM, WORKING OUT LIKE IT HAS.
UM, CAUSE I REMEMBER THE DAYS OF BE ABLE TO WALK IN SHALLOW OF WATERS AND YOU'LL NEED DEEP WATER AND THERE'LL BE SEA GRASS THERE, YOU CAN SEE ALL WAY TO THE BOTTOM.
YOU CAN GO JUST CRAB AND JUST WALKING ALONG.
UM, WITH THE INCREDIBLY RISE IN PRICE OF HERBICIDE AND PESTICIDES AND, AND, AND FERTILIZER THAT OUR FARMERS ARE SEEING, HAVE YOU SEEN SOME EXTRA INTEREST IN CONSERVATION TO HELP THEM SAVE MONEY ON, ON THEIR SIDE AS WELL AS PRESERVATION AS WELL? DO YOU, HAS THAT HELPED SOME? UM, YES.
IN FACT, WE, WE'VE SEEN, UH, WE'RE DOING SOME CUTTING EDGE STUFF WITH SOME OF OUR FARMERS, JUST NOT THE NO-TILL, BUT, UH, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A GRANT THROUGH VIRGINIA TECH THAT IS, UH, SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE PLANTS THROUGH LIDAR AND WHILE THEY'RE OUT, WHILE THE FARM IS OUT THERE OR WORKING HIS FIELD, THIS WILL ACTUALLY ADJUST THE AMOUNT OF NUTRIENTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF HIS SPRAY REG SO THAT, UH, HE'S PUTTING THE CORRECT AMOUNT AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SO THE, THAT'S SOME, HUH? RISE GRANT.
SO WE DID GET THAT GRANT, SO THAT'S SOME EXTRA FUNDING THAT WE WE'RE BRINGING INTO AIR DISTRICT, CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOME STUFF THAT, UH, IS NOT, DO NOT BEING DONE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY.
UH, ONE OF OUR FARMERS I WOULD MENTION THAT IS IN CHARLES CITY COUNTY.
HE HAD THE HIGHEST CROP YIELD IN THE WORLD FOR CORN.
I FORGET HOW MANY BUSHELS PER ACRE, BUT IT WAS, UH, IT, IT WAS LIKE TWICE THE YIELD THAT AN AVERAGE FARMER IS GETTING.
BUT HE'S USING SOME OF THAT, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGY, THE RIGHT, UH, USING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF FERTILIZER, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, IRRIGATION, NO-TILL FARMING.
AND, UH, HE'S BREAKING WORLD RECORDS RIGHT HERE
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IN LOCAL COMMUNITY.AS HOMEOWNERS GOING AT LOOKING FOR FERTILIZER AND PESTICIDES SUPPLY THE YARD HERE IN THE SPRINGTIME, WHAT CAN THEY LOOK FOR THAT'S BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE? ANY, ANY TIPS FOR HOMEOWNERS? I, I WOULD SAY A SLOW RELEASE, BUT ROBIN, YOU, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE TURF, TURF.
YOU CAN REALLY, UH, GIVE 'EM SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
UM, SO COST IS ALWAYS A BIG ISSUE, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS WITH THOSE KINDS OF PRODUCTS.
UM, SO WE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING WHAT IS GONNA BE MOST EFFECTIVE FOR A PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER'S, UM, DES DESIRES, GOALS, OR ISSUES WITH THEIR LAWN.
UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPONENTS OF OUR TURF LOVE PROGRAM AND THE PLANS AND THE FINAL REPORTS WE WRITE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM IS MAKING SURE THAT HOMEOWNERS UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF A PRODUCT TO PUT DOWN.
SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT WASTING ANYTHING, THEY'RE NOT WASTING THEIR TIME OR THEIR MONEY, AND WE'RE NOT SEEING AN EXCESS FLOW OF NUTRIENTS INTO OUR WATER BODIES EITHER.
UM, SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO LOOK AT THOSE PRODUCTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH, WITH WHAT IS GONNA BE THE BEST FOR THAT HOMEOWNER.
THANK, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I SEE YOU'VE GOT THE WEBSITE DOWN THERE, UH, SO PEOPLE CAN CONTACT YOU THAT WAY.
I'M SURE YOU GOT THE PHONE NUMBER ON ONLINE THERE TOO, SO.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO THE, UM, NEXT, UH, WASTEMAN PRESENTATION AND, OKAY.
UH, SO LAURIE, WHERE ARE YOU? OKAY, LAURIE IS OUR, UH, WASTE MAN SERVICE MANAGER.
SHE WORKS WITH, UH, VIP, WORKS WITH VIPS A, UH, TO, UH, TO ADDRESS ALL OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT STUFF.
[2* Waste Management: Receive a presentation from Laurie Halperin, Waste Service Manager. ]
GOOD EVENING.I AM LAURIE HALPERN, THE WASTE SERVICES MANAGER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WITH YORK COUNTY.
AND I'M HERE TONIGHT JUST TO DO A SHORT OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN OUR DIVISION, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW.
WE'RE SMALL IN SIZE, WE HAVE SEVEN, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND TWO, WORK IS REQUIRED.
UM, BUT WE'RE BIG IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF YORK COUNTY.
UM, UM, AND WE ARE, UH, HAPPY TO DO SO.
UM, WE SERVE THEM IN BIG WAYS AND SMALL, SOME OF THE BIG WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE OVERSEE THE CURBSIDE COLLECTIONS OF GARBAGE AND RECYCLING.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, DROP OFF AREAS FOR GARBAGE AND RECYCLING AT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY, WHICH IS AT 1 45 GOODWIN NECK ROAD.
UM, WE DO ALSO SHARE SPACE AT 1 45 GOODWIN NECK ROAD WITH VIPS, A THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA PUBLIC SERVICE AUTHORITY.
THEIR COMPOSTING OPERATIONS ARE LOCATED, UM, AT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER.
WE ALSO HAVE A TRANSFER STATION.
SO, UM, LOTS OF FOLKS THINK WE HAVE A LANDFILL.
WE DO HAVE A LANDFILL, BUT IT CLOSED YEARS AGO, SO, RIGHT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A BIG BUILDING CALLED A TRANSFER STATION.
THE TRUCKS BRING IT IN, THEY LOAD IT INTO THE BACK OF 18 WHEELER TRUCKS, AND THEY TRUCK IT TO A REGIONAL LANDFILL IN KING AND QUEEN COUNTY'S BACK OVER THERE.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE OVERSEE ARE, IS LEAF COLLECTION.
WE JUST FINISHED LEAF COLLECTION OPERATIONS FOR THIS YEAR, 20 22, 20 23, AND WE COLLECTED AN ALL-TIME HIGH OF 819.32 TONS.
THAT'S WITH THREE TRUCKS AND THREE DRIVERS AND SIX HELPERS.
50, ABOUT 40, 50 POUNDS AT A TIME.
THE OTHER, ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE WORK ON ARE STORM DEBRIS CLEANUPS.
UM, IF THE STORM IS SMALL, THEN WE CAN SOMETIMES HANDLE THAT IN-HOUSE WITH LOTS OF HELP FROM GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND OTHER DIVISIONS.
UM, IF THIS STORM IS BIG, UH, WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND CAN IN THE FUTURE, ACTIVATE STANDBY CONTRACTS WITH OUT-OF-STATE CONTRACTORS WHO WILL COME IN AND HELP US CLEAN UP.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW, DID YOU KNOW THAT WE, SORRY, THE YORK COUNTY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE FALLS UNDERNEATH THE, UM, DIVISION OF WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND AFTER YEARS OF THE, OF THE LOGO THAT HAD THE, UM, UH, DOGWOOD TREE ON IT, WE HAVE A NEW LOGO.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BACK UP.
UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT, MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT NOW, UM, THEY ARE PART OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DIVISION, BUT THE DAY-TO-DAY, UM, OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT OF THESE PROGRAMS IS DONE BY SAM MCNEIL, WHO
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IS HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT THERE.UM, SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SAM THAT RECOGNITION.
SO SHE HAS TAKEN THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE KIND OF TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AND IT'S IN HONOR OF A, UM, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WHO IS DECEASED, UM, AND ANOTHER STATEWIDE, UM, COORDINATOR.
UH, WE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE NEW LOGO, WE PARTICIPATE IN THE TREX RECYCLING CHALLENGE.
SO WE WORK WITH THE COMPANY CALLED TREX THAT MAKES, UM, PLASTIC LUMBER.
UM, IF WE COLLECT 500 POUNDS IN ANY GIVEN SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE GET A BENCH.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT TO DATE, WE HAVE COLLECTED 79,513 POUNDS OF PLASTIC.
UM, WE, EVERY, UH, SIX MONTHS PERIOD, WE GO WELL OVER THE 500 POUND MINIMUM, LIKE IN THE THOUSANDS OF POUNDS.
UM, BUT EVEN THOUGH WE GO SO FAR OVER, WE CAN ONLY GET ONE BENCH EVERY SIX MONTHS.
UM, THOSE BENCHES HAVE BEEN PLACED AT YORK RIVER ACADEMY, YORK HIGH TAB LIBRARY, COVENTRY ELEMENTARY, WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER, YORKTOWN ELEMENTARY, GRAFTON, BETHEL, YORKTOWN MIDDLE, AND TAB MIDDLE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE PUTTING BENCHES IN ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, AND THEN WE'LL START OTHER PUBLIC PLACES AFTER THAT.
UM, UM, OTHER PROGRAMS COORDINATED BY SAM ARE THE CALENDAR PROGRAM, THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CALENDAR THAT WE PRODUCE.
UH, WE PRINT SOME COPIES AND HAVE THEM IN THE LIBRARIES AND SOME COUNTY BUILDINGS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, RESIDENTS CAN DOWNLOAD THE CALENDAR FROM THE INTERNET AND THEY CAN, UM, BE AWARE OF COUNTY EVENTS, UM, SPECIAL MEETINGS, BOARD MEETINGS, REGULAR MEETINGS, UM, ANYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE GOINGS ON IN YORK COUNTY OR ON THAT CALENDAR.
THEY HAVE A BOOTH AT YORKTOWN MARKET DAYS.
UH, THEY PARTICIPATE IN SAFETY TOWN, AND WE HAVE A, A PROGRAM CALLED THE CLEAN BUSINESS FORUM, WHICH RECOGNIZES BUSINESSES WHO ARE GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS AND GOOD EXAMPLES OF THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE OVERSEE THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL EVENTS.
AND IN ADDITION, UM, TO THAT, WE HAVE PAPER SHREDDING EVENTS IN CONJUNCTION.
UM, WE, WE PARTICIPATE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE DRUG TAKEBACK DAY.
THOSE HAPPEN EVERY APRIL AND OCTOBER.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE DRUG TAKEBACK, WE HAVE PAPER SHREDDING AND WE COLLECT FOOD FOR THE, UM, FOOD DRIVES.
THOSE ARE HELD IN OCTOBER AND APRIL OF EACH YEAR.
ONE OF THE MOWER FREQUENT CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE IN OUR OFFICE IS WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PICKING UP LITTER THAT'S ON THE ROAD BY MY HOUSE.
AND SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF OUR ROADS ARE VDOT, BUT WE WORK WITH, WE SUPPLEMENT THE WORK THAT VDOT DOES, UM, BY USE, WORKING WITH VOLUNTEERS.
WE PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP, WHICH IS A WINDOW OF TIME IN THE SPRING.
UH, WE COMP, WE PARTICIPATE IN CLEAN THE BEK, WHICH ARE, UM, HELD IN JUNE.
AND WE HAVE ADOPT A SPOT PROGRAMS WHERE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN ADOPT AN AREA THAT THEY, UM, PLEDGE TO TAKE CARE OF.
UM, OUR GROUNDS DIVISION ALSO DOES ROADSIDE CLEANUPS.
THEY JUST COMPLETED A MAJOR CLEANUP WHERE THEY COLLECTED 645 BAGS, 50 GALLON BAGS AT A TIME, AND COVERED 68 MILES.
UM, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT EQUALS TO ABOUT KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL, HAS A SORT OF, UM, METHOD OF CONVERTING THE BAGS INTO TONS.
AND BASED ON THEIR METHOD, THEY COLLECTED JUST OVER EIGHT TONS OR 16,125 POUNDS, 50 GALLON BAGS AT A TIME.
AND FINALLY, LOW LOCALS WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, OUR LOCATION AFFECTIONATELY REFER TO US AS THE DUMP
A LOT OF, UM, TIMES THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR.
HAVE I REACHED THE DUMP? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
AND ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE THE DUMP, WE ARE, UM, TRYING TO FIND BEAUTY WHEREVER WE CAN.
AND SO WE HAVE A POLLINATOR GARDEN AT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER, WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, MASTER GARDENERS AND STUDENTS FROM THE YORK RIVER ACADEMY GREENHOUSE TEAM, AND WE NOW HAVE A POLLINATOR DEMONSTRATION GARDEN THAT'S AN OFFICIAL MONARCH WAY STATION FOR MONARCH BUTTERFLIES.
THIS AREA HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO AN AREA NEXT TO GOODWIN NECK ROAD, WHERE TWO REDBUD TREES HAVE BEEN PLANTED.
AND MEMORY OF PAGE HUTCHINSON, WHO WAS VIRGINIA'S PROJECT LEARNING TREE COORDINATOR WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY.
WE LOST A LONG TIME BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE MEMBER BARBARA DUNBAR.
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EXPANDED POLLINATOR GARDEN AREA WILL BE A MEMORIAL TO TWO OF VIRGINIA'S GREATEST CHAMPIONS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND ESPECIALLY ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION.AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO AT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
LORI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU'VE BEEN WITH US FOREVER AND, UH, I'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB, UH, OUTTA RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME.
I'VE GOT 11 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THAT THEY WOULD TAKE US INTO THE PUBLIC, UH, EXCUSE ME, INTO THE, WE HAVE FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NO QUESTIONS TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE TO INCON GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH LORI.
SHE'S, LIKE I SAID, SHE'S, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE HER CALLS OR YOUR EMAILS.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT NOW INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC,
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UH, EXCUSE ME.WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE 11 FOLKS SIGNED UP AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, THAT'S GIVES US, UH, WE GOT, UH, WE NORMALLY STUB START OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SEVEN.
I WILL ALLOW, BE, I'M GONNA, I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
SO, UM, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT YOU STEP FORWARD.
YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, OKAY.
BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, IF MANY OF YOU ARE ALL OF YOU, OR SOME OF YOU ARE TALKING ON THE SAME ISSUE, UH, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TRY TO BE A LITTLE SUCCINCT SO WE CAN GET INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN, IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO THE FIRST IS SIGNED UP, IS DOUG HOREY.
SUPERVISORS, I'M DOUG HOREY, 1 0 3, MARINA POINT DISTRICT ONE.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD TONIGHT.
SEVERAL OF THOSE RESIDENTS WILL SPEAK TO YOU.
I THINK YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE LIVING HELL THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS.
I'LL DRAW YOU BACK TO THE APPLICATION BY MID-ATLANTIC LAND MANAGEMENT ON THE 20TH OF MARCH, 2018 TO REZONE AN 80 ACRE LOT FOR 213 UNITS, SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AT 2000 SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
IT WAS APTLY NAMED TRANQUILITY.
OF COURSE, MID-ATLANTIC HAS LONG SINCE GONE AND THEIR PROMISES, COMMITMENTS TO THIS BOARD LARGELY FORGOTTEN.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PUBLIC POLICY GOES TERRIBLY WRONG? LAMONT MYERS REPRESENTING MID-ATLANTIC LAND MANAGEMENT AND HIS PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD SAID, AND I QUOTE, REGARDING ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
THERE WILL BE SOME TEMPORARY ISSUES.
WE ARE TALKING A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF TRUCKS THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
TWO CARS CAN PASS, BUT IT WOULD HAPPEN SO INFREQUENTLY THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
MID-ATLANTIC TRAFFIC CONSULTANT THEN STATED THAT THERE WOULD BE ROUGHLY 20 CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ON A TYPICAL DAY.
WE PICKED TWO DAYS AT RANDOM TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ON THE 9TH OF FEBRUARY OF THIS MONTH.
THERE WERE 67 VEHICLES ON THE 10TH OF FEBRUARY, THERE WERE 57 VEHICLES.
NOW GRANTED, THESE AREN'T ALL DUMP TRUCK SIZE, BUT THE FLOW OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC IS CONTINUOUS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
NOW ISN'T THAT AN OXYMORON? THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE REZONING IN PART DUE TO THE COMMITMENTS MADE BY LAMONT MYERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED BY OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. SHEPHERD, ON THE VOLUME OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAT BECAME THE PUBLIC RECORD.
YOU KNEW AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL THAT YOU WERE CREATING A PROBLEM, BUT YOU COULDN'T ROUTE THE TRAFFIC DOWN TRANQUILITY DRIVE AS THAT WAS A PRIVATE ROAD.
YOUR ONLY OPTION WAS SPRINGFIELD DAMAGING AS THAT MIGHT BE.
BUT WHY IS THERE NO ACTIVE MEASUREMENT BY THE COUNTY? WHY IS THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT NOT BEING PULLED? HENDERSON IS A CONSTRUCTOR OF THIS PROJECT.
WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO SO FLAGRANTLY VIOLATE THE LIMITS SET BY THIS BOARD IN THE APPRO IN THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING? MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW TO PROCEED.
THAT'S FOR THE BOARD TO DETERMINE.
BUT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I CAN DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.
YOU'VE DONE ENOUGH OF A DISSERVICE TO THESE RESIDENTS.
I WANT TO SEE SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT CORRECT FOR THESE MISTAKES AND THE LACK OF OVERSIGHT ON THE CONSTRUCTOR.
SIR, I AM RECOMMENDING TWO, TWO THINGS THAT A VEHICLE LIMIT BE IMPOSED ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD IN LINE WITH A COMMITMENT MADE DURING THE APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS.
CAMERAS WORK VERY WELL FOR THAT PROCESS.
THE COUNTY COULD EASILY, UH, MONITOR IT REMOTELY.
I ALSO NOTE THAT YOU HAVE SEVERAL APPLICATIONS LATER IN THIS MEETING IN YOUR CONSENT CALENDAR.
UH, FOR, FOR TAX REBATES, IT WOULD BE A MAGNA MAGNANIMOUS GESTURE BY THIS BOARD TO PROVIDE A PROPERTY TAX REBATE TO THE RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD FOR THE PAST YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE ACTION THAT THE BOARD CAN TAKE THAT WOULD SHOW THEIR RESPECT.
OKAY, UH, NEXT ONE IS JOSHUA MULLENS.
NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE ON 1151 SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
I MOVED TO SPRINGFIELD ROAD IN 2013.
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THEN I CAME TO REALIZE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS THERE HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET FOR GENERATIONS MOST RELATED TO EACH OTHER.THEN CAME TO CONSTRUCTION FOR RYAN HOLMES.
WE WERE TOLD IT WAS ONLY GONNA BE AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE, YET LOGGING TRUCKS CAME DOWN OUR ROAD OVER AND OVER.
THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT NOT A SINGLE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE WILL GO DOWN TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE WILL GO ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
DURING THE FIRST PHASE, HENDERSON HAD TRUCKS ON OUR ROAD ACCESSING 200 TIMES A DAY.
MANY BLOCKING OUR ROAD AS IT'S ONLY ONE CAR WIDTH WIDE.
WE HAVE HAD TRUCKS GET STUCK, TRY TO PASS ONE ANOTHER.
THIS WILL MAKE ANY EMS UNABLE TO REACH ANYONE ON THE STREET.
FIRE RESCUE, THESE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE ROAD.
THE OLDER RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD DO NOT DESERVE TO SPEND THEIR GOLDEN YEARS DEALING WITH THIS TRAFFIC.
THE DEVELOPER HENDERSON HAD THEIR LOYAL CONTACT ME TO TRY AND MAKE THINGS BETTER.
TIM TRENT, THEIR LAWYER, TOLD ME TO LEAVE MY HOME WHEN IT GETS LOUD.
IT WAS CODED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT Y'ALL HAD SAYING ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, THEIR DRIVEWAY WAS BIGGER THAN THIS ROAD, YET IT WAS STILL PASSED.
WE BROUGHT OUT CHAD AND WALT TO SHOW THEM THERE WERE LOGGER TRUCKS AND SEMIS DRIVING RIGHT BY US.
YET ALL WE GET IS SOME STREETLIGHTS.
WHY DOES THE 55 YEAR OLD COMMUNITY GET EMERGENCY ENTRANCE? WHILE WE DON'T, WE ARE TOLD WE'LL DEAL WITH THIS FOR FIVE MORE YEARS.
PLEASE, I ASK YOU TO RETHINK THE VOTE LIKE YOU DID RECENTLY A FEW WEEKS AGO.
FOR ONE PERSON, TRUCKS CAN PASS SAFETY THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE OR MAKE THE ROAD BEHIND OURS PERMANENT ACCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.
WE ASK YOU, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THIS WAS YOUR STREET? WOULD YOU DO THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR OWN HOME? WE ASK YOU PLEASE HELP US.
THE SUBDIVISION'S CALLED TRANQUILITY, YET YOU TOOK OURS.
I LIVE AT 1151 SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
I COME TO YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE A BIT OF INSIGHT OF WHAT THE SMALL COMMUNITY ALONG SPRINGFIELD ROAD WHERE I LIVE HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO ALONG THE COURTS OF THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION TRANQUILITY AT QUEENS CREEK, WE WERE INITIALLY GREETED WITH THE SOUND OF GRINDING DOWN OF COUNTLESS TREES FOR AROUND THREE MONTHS WITH THE EQUIPMENT USED TO DO SO, PARKED VERY CLOSE TO TWO OF THE RESIDENCES ALONG SPRINGFIELD ROAD AND THEY WOULD NOT BE MOVING THOSE.
THEN ONCE THAT WORK WAS DONE, WE WERE SUBJECTED TO THE NOISE OF CLINGING EXCAVATORS AND THE OBNOXIOUS DRONE OF A TAMPING MACHINE.
A SOUND I LIKEN TO HAVING A HELICOPTER HOVER OVER YOUR HOUSE FROM LOW ALTITUDE MANY DAYS.
THESE SOUNDS ARE CONTINUOUS FOR EIGHT TO NINE HOURS WITH LITTLE OR NO INTERVALS OR BREAKS.
WITH THE WORK BEING PERFORMED, TYPICALLY SIX DAYS A WEEK, THIS IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO.
THE 13 FOOT WIDE ROAD HAD DETERIORATED, HAS DETERIORATED RAPIDLY OVER THE LAST YEAR, HAS NOT HAD THE SPEED LIMIT FOLLOWED BY WORKERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN LARGER VEHICLES LIKE 18 WHEELERS AND DUMP TRUCKS, AND HAS SEEN SOME WORKERS PEEL OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AFTER WE VOICED OUR CONCERNS, I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESS CONSTRUCTIONS VEHICLES GET STUCK ALONG THE NARROW SHOULDERS.
HEAVEN FORBID SOMEONE NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION, PASS ONE OF THOSE LARGE WORK VEHICLES THAT FREQUENTLY TRAVEL THE ROAD BECAUSE EMS AND THAT LARGE WORK VEHICLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SAFELY PASS ANOTHER WITHOUT ONE OR BOTH VEHICLES BACKING UP THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE THE ROAD.
OVERALL, BECAUSE OUR STREET WAS CHOSEN AS THE INLET FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION SITE, I NO LONGER FEEL SAFE WALKING DOWN OUR STREET.
WOULD NOT FEEL SAFE HAVING SMALL CHILDREN, NO ALONG OUR ROAD AND FEEL WORRIED FOR THOSE THAT DO HAVE SMALL CHILDREN.
THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF CONCERN FOR THOSE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT.
AND IT IS NOT JUST FELT BY MYSELF MANY OTHER RESIDENTS ALONG SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR THIS SUBDIVISION IS NOT BEING USED FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WHILE OUR SMALL ROAD IS BEING USED FOR ALL OF IT.
AND WE WERE TOLD BY A DEVELOPER BACK IN 2017, OUR ROAD WAS ONLY GONNA BE USED AS EMERGENCY ACCESS.
SO WE SOUGHT NO NEED TO, UH, VOICE THOSE CONCERNS.
I TELL YOU THIS, TO URGE CHANGE TOWARDS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE SMALL COMMUNITY, I'VE MADE A HOMAN.
AND TO ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE, MORE CONSIDERATION IS TAKING WHEN LOOKING AT THE PLANS DEVELOPERS PRESENT TO YOU.
MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE ON 1141 SPRINGFIELD ROAD AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS WELL WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AS WELL AS THE WORKERS WHO COME THROUGH AND SPEED THROUGH.
UH, AND ALSO CONCERN, I FEEL THAT WE WAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE OF THE ELDERLY WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THIS IS A DRUG FREE CRIME FREE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW IT'S NOISY AND NOW THAT THEY ADDED GRAVEL FURTHER UP FOR THE TRUCK
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TO GET BY.BUT MYSTERIOUSLY NOW WE STARTING TO SEE CARS THAT PARK OVER THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND WE LIKE TO KEEP EVERYTHING CRIME FREE.
AND, UH, AS FOR THE UH, STREETLIGHTS, UH, THAT ONE OF THE GUYS MENTIONED, THERE'S ONLY TWO STREET LIGHTS THAT THEY PUT OUT THERE WHEN IN REALITY THEY NEED TO PUT STREET LIGHTS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD CUZ IT'S VERY DARK.
SO I WISH THAT THEY NOT PUT THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AT ALL THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY SPEEDING.
AND OF COURSE WE DO HAVE KIDS THAT STILL GET OFF THE BUS THERE.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS DEBORAH WESLEY AND MY ADDRESS IS 9 0 2 DARE ROAD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT FROM THE YORK EDUCATION ASSOCIATION TO THANK YOU FOR INCREASING THE LOCAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU.
THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION TO PRO PROCLAIM MARCH 2ND AS READ ACROSS AMERICA DAY READ ACROSS AMERICA.
CELEBRATIONS BEGAN 25 YEARS AGO WITH THE NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, CREATING A CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE READING.
READ ACROSS AMERICA'S CELEBRATIONS HAVE EXPANDED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE JOY OF READING.
MANY CELEBRATIONS TAKE PLACE ALL MONTH AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
BY READING TO CHILDREN, WE CAN SPREAD THE JOY OF READING OF THE JOY, FREEDOM AND BENEFITS OF READING.
READING TO CHILDREN STRENGTHENS THE PART OF THE BRAIN THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH VISUAL MEMORY, STORY COMPREHENSION AND VOCABULARY DEVELOPMENT.
READING ALOUD TO CHILDREN ALSO STRENGTHENS CHILDREN'S SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION HAS FOUR PRIORITIES.
COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT, SUPPORTIVE CULTURE, HIGHLY EFFECTIVE TALENT, AND FUTURE-READY GRADUATES.
WE START IN THE EARLY GRADES TO TEACH THE CHARACTER TRAITS OF TRUSTWORTHINESS, RESPECT, RESPONSIBILITY, FAIRNESS, CARING AND CITIZENSHIP SO THAT OUR GRADUATES ARE READY TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY AND BE CIVIC-MINDED.
COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT TO OUR STUDENTS INCLUDES ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SHANDOR FREQUENTLY VISITS SCHOOLS TO READ TO OUR STUDENTS.
SHERIFF MONTGOMERY HAS BEEN IN TO READ TO CLASSES IN ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND HE'S ALSO ENCOURAGING HIS DEPUTIES TO VISIT, UM, OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND READ TO OUR STUDENTS.
THE YORK EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, CAPTAIN PER
COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT INCLUDES ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
I BROUGHT A BOOK FOR EACH OF YOU, YOU DID, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU HAVE UP THERE.
AND ALL OF THESE BOOKS THAT YOU HAVE AND THAT CAPTAIN KIRK HAS, UM, DEAL WITH THE CHARACTER TRAITS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
I ENCOURAGE AND INVITE YOU ALL TO CALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND SCHEDULE A TIME TO READ WITH OUR STUDENTS.
BRING THIS BOOK OR ONE OF YOUR FAVORITES, COME IN AND READ TO THE KIDS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ONGOING SUPPORT FOR THE YORK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
AND, UH, I WAS THERE LAST WEEK.
I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM MONTY JONES IN A LONG TIME.
YES, MY NAME IS MONTY JOHNS AND I RESIDE AT 1 22 RU ROAD IN WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA.
I AM HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO ASK FOR THE IMMEDIATE CEASING OF USING SPRINGFIELD ROAD AS THE ACCESS FOR CONSTRUCTION DURING MY TIME ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THIS APPLICATION CAME BEFORE, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS CAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO BRING LIGHT TO THIS SITUATION.
CAUSE I'D BEEN OUT THERE SO MANY TIMES.
YOU COULD HEAR, UH, A LEAF DROP AT NIGHT.
THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE HARDWORKING.
IN FACT, I EVEN GOT A, A LITTLE THING OF, UH, MACARONI AND CHEESE ONE TIME.
THAT'S HOW WELL I'D GOTTEN TO KNOW THE PEOPLE.
BUT WHAT I SEE HAPPENING NOW IS WRONG OR WRONG.
THERE CANNOT BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AS PEOPLE AND HUMAN BEINGS.
I KNOW WE MUST TALK TO THE SAME GOD AND SAY SOME OF THE SAME PRAYERS.
AND IF THEY DON'T MEAN THE SAME THING, THEN I WANT A NEW GOD.
I'VE ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR RIGHT.
ALWAYS PREPARED TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT RIGHT OVER THE EASY WRONG.
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WAS, THIS WAS REALLY BAD.AND I FEEL BAD FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY LACK CONFIDENCE NOW AND OUR LEADERS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE.
I'M NOT GONNA TALK ANYMORE ON THIS BECAUSE MY, I WANTED TO RESERVE THAT TIME FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
COULD SING YOU AGAIN, BUT PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO BRING RELIEF, I URGE YOU TO TRY.
UH, I RESIDE AT RESIDE AT 1 28 SPRINGFIELD DRIVE IN YORK COUNTY.
I GREW UP, UM, ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
AND FOR ME TO COME DOWN AND VISIT MY ELDERLY PARENTS AND RELATIVES IS VERY DEPRESSING.
OUR ROADS ARE TORAH HOUSES AND VEHICLES ARE DUSTED.
DIRT DUSTED THE ROAD, WHICH BASICALLY HADN'T BEEN RESURFACED IN THE LAST 30 SOME ODD YEARS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER ELDERLY FOLKS.
MY DAD CAN'T EVEN GET OUT THERE AND EXERCISE WITH HIS WALKER NOR MY MOTHER BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.
THE UNEVENNESS OF THE ROAD IS CROWNED.
THE FAMILIES THAT BUILT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS FORCED FROM CAMP PERRY TO EITHER GO THERE.
YORK COUNTY, UM, EXCUSE ME, YORKTOWN NAVAL WEAPON STATION OR CARVER GARDEN.
MY FAMILY CHOOSE JONES' POINT, AS IT WAS CALLED AT THE TIME, SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
AND IN ALL HONESTY, I AM SADDENED BECAUSE MY ROOTS I SEE HAS BEGAN TO BE UPROOTED.
THE AREA THAT YOU'RE BUILDING ON.
MY GRANDMOTHER, MAY SHE REST IN HEAVEN.
AND IT, IT REALLY, REALLY BOTHERS ME.
AND I ASKED THIS BOARD TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO GIVE BACK THE TRANQUILITY, THE PEACE THAT THESE FOLKS BUILT.
I'VE SEEN SO MANY DIVISIONS, WHEREAS CONTRACTORS HAVE CAME IN AND BUILT AROUND FOLKS AND EVENTUALLY PUSHED THEM OUT.
AND I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AT AGE 67 TO LET YOU ALL KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AT 1137.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN GOD, I BELIEVE IN PRAYER, AND I BELIEVE IN YOU ALL THAT YOU ALL WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
RON STRUBLE, MY WIFE JUST MENTIONED TO ME TO SKIP, STICK TO THE SCRIPT, BUT I'M NOT AGAIN, UH, RON STRUBLE 2 0 5 SHADY BLUFF POINT.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONSERV YOUR COUNTY FOUNDATION.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT OUR TWO VICE PRESIDENTS ARE HERE, UM, MONTY IN THE BACK.
AND, UH, MR. KENNEDY RIGHT HERE.
I'M GONNA THROW AWAY MOST OF THIS CUZ A LOT OF IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
UM, I WANT JUST WRITE, READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
TWO WEEKS AGO, THE BOARD CONTORTED AND STRIPPED SCRIPTED ITSELF IN A WAY IT NEVER HAD BEFORE.
AND SUSPENDED THE RULES TO BYPASS OUR OWN YORK COUNTY COURT CODE IN ORDER TO DO WHAT MS. KNOWLES SAID WAS RIGHT OR WRONG.
FOR AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN WHO HAD APPLIED FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL, A DETERMINED BOARD DID SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
YOU UNANIMOUSLY CHOSE TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
YOU PREVIOUSLY CAST VOTES WERE CHANGED AND THE BOARD'S JUSTIFICATION WAS WRITING A WRONG.
WHICH BRINGS US TO TONIGHT ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
I'M GONNA PUT AWAY THE REST OF IT.
BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT TWO THIRDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
AND I WOULD ASK THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE.
IF ANYONE WAS AWARE THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS BEING APPLIED FOR, COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? THERE WAS A SIGN PUT AT THE END OF A DEAD END ROAD.
TWO RESIDENTS WERE MAILED NOTIFICATIONS NOBODY ELSE KNEW.
DELAY CONSTRUCTION OF THE ACTUAL 200 PLUS HOMES UNTIL A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE IS BUILT OFF OF HAWKS NEST ROAD, WHICH RUNS BEHIND SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
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THAT ROAD IS UNPOPULATED COUNTY PROPERTY.ACTUAL HOME CONSTRUCTION COULD BE HALTED BY PAST PAUSING.
THE ISSUANCE OF BURN BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL A TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE OR EMERGENCY ENTRANCE IS BUILT OFF OF HAWKS NEST ROAD.
IF THE BOARD IS UNABLE TO DO THAT OR UNWILLING, I PROPOSE THIS STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE 2020 TRUCK PER DAY RULE AS PROMISED BY THE DEVELOPER.
TRAFFIC WILL EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE WHEN HOME CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AND CEMENT TRUCKS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER TRUCKS ARRIVE IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM TO ENSURE NO TRUCKS ENTERING OR DEPARTING MEET ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
THAT MEANS SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL.
DEMAND TRUCKS STAY ON THE ROAD AND STOP USING DITCHES FROM MANEUVERING.
JUST MEETING ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD TONIGHT, THERE'S A BIG GOUGE IN THE DITCH RIGHT WHERE I STOOD YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS NO GOUGE, IMMEDIATE REPAIR AND REP PAVEMENT OF DAMAGED AREAS THAT HAVE GONE UNTOUCHED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS SIR.
I LIVE AT 1 0 8 HORSESHOE DRIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG IN YORK COUNTY.
I'D LIKE TO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT FAITH.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE PASTOR TONIGHT HAD A FABULOUS PRAYER, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS KIND OF FAITH.
I'M TALKING ABOUT FAITH IN OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR FAITH THAT YOU WILL SERVE US, THE PEOPLE OF YORK COUNTY AND OUR FAITH THAT YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING.
I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF TODAY THAT MY FAITH HAS HONESTLY BEEN RATTLED.
MY FAITH THAT THE PUBLIC WAS WELL SERVED AND REPRESENTED WHEN THE SEWAGE TREATMENT FACILITY WAS APPROVED IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY FAITH WAS CRUSHED WHEN THE, UH, FOYER REQUESTS HAD BEEN MUFFLED OVER THE PAST MONTHS.
AND MY FAITH HAS BEEN ERODED WHEN JUST ONE OF FIVE SUPERVISORS ASKED ABOUT HOW ARE THE CONSTITUENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD AFFECTED BY OUR DECISION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE.
AND HONESTLY, MY FAITH IN YOUR CURIOSITY HAS BEEN REALLY, UH, DAMAGED BECAUSE NONE OF YOU IN THE, IN THAT, UM, COMMITTEE MEETING OR IN THE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ASKED WHY THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TWO TO TWO AND VOTED IT DOWN.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE ASK WHAT WERE THEIR CONCERNS.
AND I ALSO HAVE NO FAITH WHEN, UM, I DIDN'T HEAR ALTERNATE ROADS DISCUSSED DURING THE MEETING AND REALLY THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, I COMPLETELY LOST FAITH WHEN DESPITE EVEN MR. SHEPHERD'S CONCERNS, YOU ALL VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO APPROVE THIS.
AND IT TURNS OUT I'M NOT ALONE.
TO BE SHOCKED AND SADDENED, ANGERED AND DISAPPOINTED.
THE EROSION OF FAITH IN OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, UM, IS A SLOW REALIZATION THAT THROUGH ONE MISSED OPPORTUNITY AFTER ANOTHER, THAT OUR FAITH IN YOUR JUDGMENT AND YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS FAILED US.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE LOOK TO EACH OTHER TO GATHER AND TO, UM, TO GROUP TOGETHER.
AND BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT BECOMES GRASSROOTS ADVOCACY GROUPS AND WATCHDOG GROUPS.
SO IN A SENSE, YOU ALL CREATED THE GRASS GROUPS, GROUPS, GRASSROOTS GROUPS, AND ADVO ADVOCACY GROUPS THAT YOU SEE ONLINE AND ARE HERE TODAY.
IT'S YOUR LACK OF LEADERSHIP THAT HAS GENERATED THIS, UH, PUBLIC OUTCRY.
I ASK THAT YOU TAKE ACTION TODAY TO RIGHT OR WRONG, TO RESTORE OUR FAITH AND BEGIN THAT.
I LOOK TO YOU IN EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE.
AND I WANT YOU TO ASK, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT MY CONSTITUENTS? HOW DOES THIS AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY IN ALL OF THE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU SEE ABOVE THE BOARD, IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
JOSH STANFIELD, 2 0 8 CRESTWOOD COURT IN YORKTOWN.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO ASK THE BOARD TO BEGIN THE DRAFTING.
UM, AND EVENTUALLY THEN THE SIGNING AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF A YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S CODE OF ETHICS, SOMETHING AKIN TO THE CODE OF ETHICS THAT THE JAMES CITY COUNTY BOARD USES, UM, WHICH APPARENTLY HAS DONE THEM WELL FOR THE LAST COUPLE DECADES.
I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH MY PAST FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN IT, IN THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF, UH, CORRUPTION IN MALFEASANCE I FOUND IN VIRGINIA GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS.
UM, I WAS GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND AGAIN, UM, SUPERVISOR GREEN.
THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH TAKING NOTES ON AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE ABILITY
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OF DOMINION ENERGY TO PAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE CAMPAIGN ACCOUNTS OF POLITICIANS WHO KEEP VOTING AGAIN AND AGAIN TO RAISE OUR ELECTRIC RATES, TO NOT GIVE REFUNDS WHEN WE'RE OVERCHARGED AND TO, UM, BASICALLY GREEN LIGHT WHATEVER PROJECTS THEY WANT.I'VE SEEN ALSO MOST RECENTLY THE CASINO INTEREST AND THE MARIJUANA INTERESTS WORKING TOWARDS CONSOLIDATION AND MINOR OLIGOPOLIES IN VIRGINIA, CONTROLLING THE MARKET, CUTTING OUT VIRGINIA FARMERS AND OTHER INTERESTS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
I'VE SEEN MOST RECENTLY, I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR, THE NORFOLK SHERIFF WAS CONVICTED OF PUBLIC CORRUPTION.
I'VE SEEN OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WHO HAD TO RESIGN OR WERE CONVICTED OF, UM, ISSUES INCLUDING A CITY COUNCILMAN IN ROANOKE.
AND I COULD GO ON AND ON ON THAT FRONT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SOLAR DEVELOPMENTS AND BOARDS, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL, UH, SOUTHWESTERN VIRGINIA AND IN THE VALLEY.
AND THE WAY THESE SOLAR PROJECTS HAVE BEEN SORT OF RAPIDLY PUSHED THROUGH PLANNING, UH, COMMISSIONS AND THROUGH THEIR BOARDS BEHIND CLOSED SCENES.
UH, NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE THINGS ARE DONE.
I'VE SEEN, UH, NON-COMPETITIVE BIDS GIVEN OUT IN MAJOR CITIES LIKE RICHMOND FOR MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECTS, MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS, ALL THESE THINGS HAVE OCCURRED.
AND YOU KNOW, I I'M AN UNUSUAL CITIZEN.
I PAY ATTENTION TO THIS STUFF AND, AND INVESTIGATE SOME OF THIS STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAD A COLUMNIST FOR THE VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA, UH, PILOT WHO WAS GHOST WRITING EDITORIALS, UM, PUMPING UP DOMINION WHILE BEING PAID SIX FIGURES BY DOMINION, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES.
I WAS FINALLY GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT I HAD TO SUE THE CITY OF NORFOLK.
I'M NOT A LAWYER PRO SE BECAUSE OF THEIR INABILITY TO FOLLOW THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT IN VIRGINIA, WHICH IS APPARENTLY A PROBLEM HERE TOO.
UH, I, YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE SEEMED TO AGREE WITH ME.
THE CITY HAD TO SETTLE, PAY ALL MY COSTS, MY FEES, AND GIMME WHAT MY, WHAT, WHAT I WANT.
BUT IN THE END, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO SAY ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOME OF THESE FOLKS HAVE ALREADY MADE THE CASE THAT THE ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM YOU CAN DO IS TO CREATE A CODE OF ETHICS.
SOMETHING LIKE JAMES CITY COUNTY'S CODE OF ETHICS, SIGN THIS THING, ENFORCE IT IF NECESSARY, THOUGH APPARENTLY JAMES CITY COUNTY HAS NEVER HAD TO ENFORCE IT.
AND THAT AGAIN, IS THE ABSOLUTE BARE AND MINIMUM IN ORDER TO ENSURE SOME SCINTILLA OF TRUST FROM THE PUBLIC.
WHICH IT SEEMS, UH, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY.
MY NAME'S GREG LOCHNER, 1135 SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
AND I'M REALLY GET ANNOYED BY THE, UH, THE, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, FLATBED TRAILERS THAT GO BY AND SPREAD ALL THE DUST.
YOU CAN'T OPEN, YOU LEAVE YOUR DOOR OPEN OR YOUR WINDOW OTHERWISE THE DUST GETS IN THE HOUSE, THEY'RE TEARING UP THE ROAD AND IT'S, IT'S JUST, UH, SO AN ALTERNATIVE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO, UH, BRING BACK THE PEACE ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD.
DOES ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? YES.
COME STEP FORWARD, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
STEVEN KENNEDY, 1 0 4 PENN DRIVE, WILLIAMSBURG, UH, SURE THING.
IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR, ISN'T IT, LADY AND GENTLEMEN, DID YOU GET YOUR TAX RETURNS IN ON TIME IN MY OFFICE? MS. NOLES OWENS, THROW FROM YOUR HOUSE, I HAVE A BOOK AS ADAM SMITH, ECONOMIST AND PHILOSOPHER SAYS, THERE IS NO ART, WHICH ONE GOVERNMENT SOONER LEARNS FROM ANOTHER THAN THAT OF DRAINING MONEY FROM THE POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE.
FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, THAT GREAT PHILOSOPHER AND ECONOMIST NEIL MORGAN QUOTED IN THE DAILY PRESS.
WHILE NO COUNTY OFFICIAL CAN AFFORD TO IGNORE REVENUE QUESTIONS FOR, FOR THAT MATTER, COSTS THAT COME WHEN POPULATIONS INCREASE TAX COLLECTIONS AREN'T REAL AN ISSUE.
WE DON'T NEED TO CHASE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE PAYROLL ONE MORE TIME, UNLESS THAT POLICY IS CHANGED.
THESE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WE DO NOT NEED TO CHASE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE PAYROLL.
SO WHY ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH LEADS TO A SURPLUS.
IS IT TRUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING A 16 TO 13 MILLION SURPLUS IN THE MIDDLE OF A NASTY RECESSION? FASCINATING.
WE WILL ALWAYS COME TO YOU WITH IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS, AND ALTERNATIVES.
HOW ABOUT A SOLUTION? HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING LIP SERVICE ALONG WITH YOUR UNDERWHELMING $500 SUPPORT TO CONSERVATION LIKE THE HISTORIC VIRGINIA LAND CONSERVANCY AND LIKE THE CONSERVATOR COUNTY FOUNDATION? HOW ABOUT JUST 10%? ANYBODY BELIEVE IN TITHING IN HERE.
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GREAT THING THAT YOU COULD DO.JUST A GENTLE REMINDER, IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY.
IT'LL BE NICE IF IT, WE FELT IT ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM.
BY THE WAY, I'LL MATCH YOUR CONTRIBUTION AGAIN TO BOTH CONSERVE YOUR COUNTY FOUNDATION AND TO THE HISTORIC VIRGINIA LAND CONSERVANCY.
I HAVE MY CHAD GREEN PEN OUT, READY TO STROKE A CHECK UP TO A LIMIT.
WE NEED TO HA WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.
A STRONG PLAN ON THAT SURPLUS FOR THIS YEAR FOR ALL CITIZENS, FOR ALL SIT-INS, PLEASE GET OUT OF YOUR SILOS AND SAY, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN, IN DISTRICT ONE, I DON'T NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT.
IT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE YOU ALL COME TOGETHER.
FOIA, FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, MORE FREEDOM, MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE.
WHY ARE YOU DISCOURAGING CITIZEN VOTERS FROM SEEING YOUR WORK? WHY THE WINE IN COMPLAINING FROM MR. MORGAN ABOUT PROVIDING MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MORE INFORMATION? HIS ARGUMENT IN HIS MOST RECENT MEMO TO YOU IS SPECIOUS AT BEST.
HE TALKS ABOUT ONE PERSON, ONE PERSON LOOKING FOR A LOT OF FOYER REQUESTS.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR.
THAT'S MIKE JOE BIDEN'S, SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SPEAKING.
HE REPRESENTS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, THAT CONSERVATION, PRESERVATION, RESTORATION FROM LOSS OR DAMAGE OR NEGLECT.
LIKE OUR FRIENDS ON SPRINGFIELD ROAD CONSERVATION WORKS EVERY TIME IT IS TRIED.
AND BY THE WAY, THANK YOU MR. RONAN AND MR. GREEN FOR STANDING UP.
UP, SIR, APPRECIATE FEBRUARY 7TH CONVICTIONS.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE THAT WE, UH, OVERTURN THE, YOUR TIME UP POLICY? YOUR TIME IS UP.
MAY WE SUSPEND THE RULE, SIR? NO TIME.
WANNA GET THAT? ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO SPEAK? OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE, UH, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT IS IT? CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
NOW MOVE ON TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT AND REQUEST, UM, NO REPORT UNLESS THE BOARD HAS, UM, HAS QUESTIONS THAT WILL KNOW.THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS SCHEDULED TO ADJOURN THIS WEEKEND, AND I'LL TRY TO GIVE A REPORT AFTER THAT HAS HAPPENED.
ANY QUESTIONS? THE, UH, COUNTY
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ADMINISTRATOR, UM, THERE'S TWO, UH, SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT I KNOW EVERYONE IS EAGER TO SEE GET COMPLETED.UH, THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, UH, WILL OPEN, UH, SUNDAY IN MARCH, UH, STANDBY FOR EXACTLY WHICH DAY, BUT HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH.
AND, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN ON MOORE TOWN ROAD, UH, SHOULD OPEN, UH, ABOUT THE LAST WEEK OF MARCH OR THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL.
UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, DO ME, UH, UH, DO US ALL A FAVOR HERE.
I WANT TO, LET'S REVIEW THE SPRINGFIELD ROAD ISSUE.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, UH, I WANNA KNOW THINGS LIKE, IS THAT, IS THAT A PUBLIC ROAD? IS THAT, UH, WHO OWNS THE ROAD? UM, WHAT ALTERNATIVES ARE AVAILABLE AND KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN TALK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
CERTAINLY DO A ONE-ON-ONE OR WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETINGS, THEN LET'S FIND OUT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.
AT THIS POINT, UM, I'M GONNA SUSPEND THE REST OF THE, UH, OF THAT, UH, MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD.
WE'RE GONNA NOW, UM, WHEN LESSON ONE NEEDS TO TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL TAKE, UH, FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL RECESS.
EVERY TIME I CHANGE A PAGE, IT GOES DOWN TO 27.64%.
UH, CALL A MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
[3 Application No. ZM-195-23, Curt and Pamela Lang dba Mills Marine. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 23-4 to approve an application to amend proffered conditions of approval applicable to a parcel located at 1737 Back Creek Road. ]
TO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.FIRST ONE WILL BE CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF OPPOSED ORDINANCE 23 DASH FOUR.
THE APPLICATION, UH, IS, UM, ZM 1 95 23 CURTAIN PANEL, UH, PANEL OF LANG.
AND, UM, THIS IS TO APPROVE OR CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION TO AMEND PROFFERS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO, UH, PARCEL LOCATED AT TH 1737 BAT CREEK ROAD.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROFFERED CONDITIONS OF A REZONING THAT YOU ALL APPROVED, UM, BACK IN JANUARY OF 2022 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1737 BACK CREEK ROAD.
THE APPLICANTS ARE KURT AND PAMELA LANG.
UM, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS, UH, OUTLINED HERE IN BLUE, THE RECTANGULAR PIECE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BACK CREEK ROAD ABOUT, UH, FOUR TEN FOUR TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
YOU MAY RECALL, BACK IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, YOU ALL APPROVED A, UH, AN APPLICATION TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO WATER ORIENTED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT APPLICATION
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WAS SO THAT THE, UH, LANGS COULD BUILD A, UH, BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY COULD PARK, UH, BOATS AND EQUIPMENT IN CONNECTION WITH MILLS MARINA, WHICH THEY OWN, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT DOWN THE STREET AND IS ALSO OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE MAP HERE.UH, THE, UH, THE APPLICATION IS TO, UH, UH, THAT WAS A CONDITIONAL REZONING, AND SO, UH, THERE WERE PROFFERS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE, THE SUBJECTS THERE.
BUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES, UH, THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY LIMITED BUSINESS, THAT ONE USE AERIAL PHOTO FROM 2021 OF BOTH MILLS MARINA AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, THE, UH, PROPERTY AS VIEWED FROM, UH, A BACK CREEK ROAD.
THE, UH, BUILDING THAT YOU SEE HERE, OLD COMMERCIAL BUILDING, UH, I BELIEVE HAS SINCE BEEN DEMOLISHED.
UH, THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN BACK IN, UH, DECEMBER, AND THIS, THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UH, AND THEN HERE'S A PICTURE OF MILLS MARINA SEEN FROM THE END OF BACK CREEK ROAD.
UH, AND THIS IS, UH, AREA MILLS MARINA OFF TO THE SIDE.
UH, WHERE, UH, BOATS ARE, ARE TYPICALLY, UH, WORKED ON LIVING QUARTERS IS ABOVE THE GARAGE.
AS I SAID, THIS WAS A CONDITIONAL REZONING.
THE, UH, APPLICANTS PROFFERED TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE PERMITTED IN THE W C I ZONING DISTRICT.
AND YOU SEE THE LIST BEFORE YOU, UH, THEIR REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO REMOVE FROM THAT LIST THOSE TWO ITEMS, BOTH SERVICE AND BOAT REPAIR.
UH, A YEAR AGO, THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF DOING A ANY SERVICING ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THEY, UH, HAD PLANS TO PURCHASE PROPERTY ON NEWPORT NEWS, WHERE THAT WORK IN NEWPORT NEWS, WHERE THAT WORK WOULD BE CONDUCTED, UH, THAT, UH, TRANSACTION FELL THROUGH.
SO THEY'RE NOW SEEKING P PERMISSION TO, UH, ALLOW BOAT SERVICING AND REPAIR, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
ALL THE OTHER PROFFERS THAT YOU SEE HERE, ALL THOSE PROHIBITED USES, THOSE WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
UH, JUST A PICTURE OF THE SKETCH PLAN, UH, SHOWING THE PROPOSED GARAGE BUILDING.
UH, THERE WOULD BE, UH, UH, 12 AND A HALF FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS TO THE SIDE, BOTH SIDES, AND TO THE REAR 20 FOOT BUFFER, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UH, TO THE FRONT.
AND, UH, UH, ALL THE REPAIR WORK WOULD BE CONDUCTED INDOORS.
UH, SO YOU WOULDN'T, UH, THAT WOULD MITIGATE ANY NOISE IMPACTS, UH, ON THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, RESIDENCES NEARBY.
UH, IT IS, AS I MENTIONED, DESIGNATED LIMITED BUSINESS IN THE COMP PLAN, AND THAT IS DESIGNATION AS IT APPLIES TO THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER ORIENTED USES.
SO, UH, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL APPLICATION THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 23 DASH FOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, CONSIDERED THIS APPLICATION IN JANUARY, AND THEY VOTED, UH, SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, THE, THE APPLICANT, MR. LANG, IS HERE TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
WALT, YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
STEVE, REAL QUICK, THE, UM, THE PROFFER PROHIBITIONS FOR WCI, IS THAT TYPICAL FOR W C I PROPERTY OR IS THAT SPECIFIC FOR THIS APPLICATION? THESE PROFFERS WERE SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO THEY WERE VOLUNTARILY PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, BASICALLY THE IDEA IS, UH, IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED THAT MIGHT CAUSE A CONCERN, APPLICANTS TYPICALLY PROFFER TO PROHIBIT THOSE.
SO IT DOESN'T OPEN THE DOOR TO SOMETHING BEYOND WHAT YOU'RE REALLY APPROVING.
SO WHAT YOU WERE APPROVING AT THE TIME WAS BOAT, UH, PARKING.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE A BIT, BIT, LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPANSION, UH, WITH THE ADDITION OF BOAT REPAIR, BUT EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING'S GONNA BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.
AND I WAS GONNA SAY, WE APPROVE THAT BUILDING CONSTRUCTION LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT'S, SO JUST BASICALLY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO EXPAND THE, YOU SAID, BUILDING OF REPAIR WORK INSIDE FOR WATER WATERCRAFT ONLY.
UH, MR. GREEN, ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUES DOWN THERE IN THIS PARKING ISSUES? AT, IN THE MARINA? CORRECT.
THERE'S PARKING ISSUES DOWN THERE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT TEARING THIS BUILDING DOWN AND BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING, WE HAVEN'T REALLY ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PARKING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
AND I NOTICED IN THE FRONT OF IT, IN YOUR LITTLE SLIDE, THERE WAS A 20 FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER IN THE FRONT, WHICH TAKES OUT EVEN MORE PARKING SPACES.
SO ARE WE, ARE WE DOUBLING DOWN ON OUR PARKING ISSUES? WELL, I DON'T KNOW TO THE EXTENT
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THAT, UH, BOATS THAT ARE, UH, CURRENTLY PARKED AT THE MARINA, TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE WOULD BE MOVED TO THIS OTHER PROPERTY, UH, THAT COULD ASSIST WITH THE, UH, ISSUE AT THE MARINA.UH, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, UH, THAT TRANS OR THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS GONNA TAKE OUT SOME OF THE AVAILABLE PARKING.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, AS THINGS STAND, NO PARKING IS ALLOWED ON THAT PROPERTY.
THE BOAT PARKING, ANY PARKING WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED, UH, ONCE THEY BUILD THE BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN PROCESS, GET A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PASS IT WITHOUT THAT BUFFER REQUIRED IN THE FRONT? NO.
THAT'D BE MY, THAT'D BE MY, WELL, THIS IS BE MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHY, I MEAN, THIS IS A REZONING, IT'S NOT SPECIAL USE FIRM, SO YOU CANNOT ATTACH CONDITIONS TO A REZONING.
SO LET ME UNDERSTAND THIS, WHAT I JUST FOLLOWED WHAT YOU SAID.
SO THEY GOTTA BUILD A BUILDING AND THERE'S NO PARKING ANYWHERE ON THAT PROPERTY? WELL, THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE USED JUST FOR PARKING OF BOATS IN THE BUILDING AND THE, AND THE STOR AND THE BOATS REPAIR AND SERVICE WORK THAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED IF THE APPLICATION'S APPROVED.
YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE NO PARKING? WHERE'S THE PARKING? PARKING OF BOATS INSIDE THE BUILDING.
HOW ABOUT CARS? UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AUTHORIZED.
THEY CAN'T PARK ANYTHING ON THE, SO HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET A BOAT ON HERE IF THEY CAN'T PARK? WELL, THEY'RE TAKING THEIR, THEY'D BE TAKING THEIR BOATS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY, PRESUMABLY DETACHING THEM AND DRIVING OFF, UH, AND THEN COME BACK LATER AND PICK UP THEIR BOATS.
UH, IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE A STANDALONE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EQUIVALENT OF A AUTO REPAIR SHOP WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, PARKING IN ADDITION TO, UM, THE REPAIR.
WELL, YOU GOT PEOPLE, SO, OKAY.
SO WE GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH A BUILDING ON IT IN NO PARKING.
HOW, WHERE THE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE ARE PEOPLE PARKING THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE, THERE'S NO PARKING ANYWHERE AROUND.
HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE, GET TO THE BUILDING OFFSITE PARKING? WELL, UH, WERE THE TRAILERS GONNA BE SITTING? THEY CARRY THE BOATS.
THEY WOULD BE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
THE TRAILER IS, SO THE BOAT'S ON THE TRAILER.
SO WE'RE THE PEOPLE PARKING THAT LIVE THERE, OR, WELL, NOBODY, NOBODY LIVES THERE.
UH, THE APPLICANTS LIVE ON THE, AT THE MARINA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I GUESS.
LET'S, UH, SO, UM, THE APPLICANT THAT, UH, LANGS, THAT WANNA SPEAK, I WISH YOU PUT, WOULD COME FORWARD, EXPLAIN THIS NO PARKING THING TO US, PLEASE.
MY NAME'S KURT LANG, OWNER OF MILLS MARINA, 1742 BACK CREEK ROAD AND 1737.
ALSO OWN PROPERTY UP THE STREET AT 1708 BACK CREEK.
WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU ACTUALLY LIVE?
WE HAVE THE BEST VIEW ON THE CREEK
UM, SO YEAH, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, IT WAS A PACKAGE DEAL, SO IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THAT LOT AT 1737 WAS NOT COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE THERE WAS ALWAYS BOATS PARKED ON THAT PROPERTY.
WHEN WE BOUGHT THE MARINA, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY JOYCELYN, UH, BY A PHONE CALL ONE DAY THAT THERE WAS A COMPLAINT THAT THERE WERE BOATS PARKED ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THERE WERE EIGHT BOATS ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH SIX OF 'EM I ACQUIRED THROUGH THE PURCHASE, WHICH I DE DESTROYED AND GOT RID OF.
UM, SINCE THEN, CODES AND COMPLIANCE JOYCELYN HAS BEEN NUMEROUSLY AT MY PROPERTY ABOUT NO BOATS ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY, PERIOD.
I CANNOT PARK ANYTHING ON THE LOT.
AND WHEN I MENTIONED ABOUT PARKING MY EQUIPMENT ON THE LOT, SHE SAID, NO, I'M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO PARK MY OWN THINGS ON MY OWN PROPERTY.
SO I ASKED HER TO PLEASE LEAVE MY STORE.
UM, SO HERE'S THE APPLICATION IS TO PUT A BUILDING ON, ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT I COULD PARK BOATS INSIDE, SO I COULD HAVE INSIDE STORAGE.
AND I HAVE A HYDRAULIC BOAT TRAILER, SO I CAN PICK BOATS UP OUT OF THE WATER AND PUT 'EM ON BLOCKS.
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BLOCKED WITH MY TRAILER.UM, SO THAT WAS PART OF REZONING WCI, SO I COULD KEEP THOSE BOATS ON THAT PROPERTY SINCE THE MARINA HAS LIMITED PARKING TO BEGIN WITH.
UM, SO THE DEAL FELL THROUGH WITH THIS OTHER PROPERTY IN NEWPORT NEWS THAT MY WIFE AND I WERE TRYING TO PURCHASE, WHICH WE WERE GONNA MOVE THE SERVICE TO NEWPORT NEWS.
UM, NOW WITH THAT BUILDING, I'D LIKE TO, TO DO THE SERVICE WORK IN THAT BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE LIMITED WITH THE BUFFER, UH, THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER, BUT IN THE FRONT.
SO THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE PLACED AS FAR BACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT BOATS AND VEHICLES CAN STILL PARK IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, SAY ON WEEKENDS.
AND I CAN STILL BLOCK SOME BOATS IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AS LONG AS THERE'S STILL ACCESS TO THE BUILDING.
WHAT'D THEY TELL YOU? YOU GOTTA DO BEFORE YOU CAN GET PARKING, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PARK
SO, UH, I THOUGHT THAT SINCE THE PROPERTY WAS ALREADY REZONED, WCI, THAT WE COULD UTILIZE IT, UH, UNTIL THE SITE PLAN AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT AFFOR, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT ABLE TO DO SO.
SO RIGHT NOW, I HAVE EVERY SINGLE BOAT THAT WAS BLOCKED ON THAT PROPERTY, BLOCKED ON THE MARINA, SO THERE'S HARDLY ANY ROOM AT THE MARINA NOW FOR EVEN PATRONS TO COME IN AND, AND PARTAKE IN THE STORE.
SO I WOULD BE SORT OF AN INCENTIVE TO, UH, GET YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVED.
SO WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH, UH, DONALD DAVIDSON AND ASSOCIATES, AND HE SHOULD HAVE, I KNOW HE TALKED TO TIM CROSS TODAY, BUT HE SHOULD HAVE, I BELIEVE, THE PROPOSAL, UH, TO START TOMORROW.
UH, SO IT COULD BE, I DON'T, I DON'T, I I HEARD HE'S PRETTY BACKED UP.
UH, SO IT COULD BE A FEW MONTHS TILL I EVEN GET THAT SITE PLAN, UH, IN FULL.
SO, I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANY WAY I COULD UTILIZE THE PROPERTY UNTIL THEN, THAT WOULD BE SUPERB.
ANY QUESTIONS? THE, THE, THE BOATS YOU WANNA PUT ON THIS PROPERTY ARE, ARE THESE CUSTOMER BOATS? ARE THESE, ARE THEY PEOPLE STORING BOATS THERE? WHAT, HOW DO THEY, HOW SUMMER CUSTOMER BOATS, SUMMER BOATS THAT I BROUGHT IN TO WORK ON THAT ARE THERE FOR SERVICE.
SO THEY'RE ONLY THERE TEMPORARILY.
UH, SO AS SOON AS THEY'RE FINISHED, THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK IN THE WATER AND, AND WHEREVER THEY'RE, THEY KEEP THEIR BOATS.
SO DOES THIS BUILDING AND THE SIZE OF THE LOT YOU HAVE, GIVE YOU SUFFICIENT SPACE TO STORE THE QUANTITY OF BOATS YOU EXPECT TO HAVE IN AT ANY GIVEN TIME? SO DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, I'LL, I'LL HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM, UH, BECAUSE THE MARINA IS PRETTY MUCH CLOSED DOWN DURING THE WINTER, DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THOSE BOATS ARE BACK IN THE WATER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE A COUPLE BOATS THAT COME AND GO.
UH, ONE, ONE FOR STORAGE OR TWO FOR SERVICE, THEN YEAH.
THAT, THAT PROPERTY WOULDN'T SUFFICE.
IT, IT WOULD, YEAH, IT WOULD SUFFICE.
I MEAN, ON THE WEEKENDS NOW, WE ARE SO BUSY WITH, UH, THE FISHING, WE, WE HOLD TOURNAMENTS.
I MEAN, MORE PARK PARKING WOULD BE PHENOMENAL, BUT THERE'S NO, NO EXPANSION AS OF YET AVAILABLE THERE.
SO, UM, PAINTERS OF THE MARINA, WHEN THEY COME TO GET ON, GET ON THEIR BOATS, YOU HAVE DOCK THERE.
WHERE, WHERE DO THEY, THEY PARK THEIR VEHICLES AT? IS THERE, SO WHERE, WHERE YOU SAW THE ONE PHOTO OF THE OR WORKING SHOP NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND I HAVE LINES PAINTED AND WE PARKED CARS THREE DEEP OKAY.
UH, CAN I, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TIM, COULD YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? OKAY.
I'M, I'M KIND OF STILL STUCK ON THIS PARKING BIT.
UM, IT'S BEEN REZONED WCI, CORRECT? YES.
AND WATER, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
SO IS IT OUR, OUR CODE OR WHATEVER THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT DO ANY WCI UNLESS YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN? THE CODE SAYS THAT THE ALLOWS, UH, INDOOR, UH, PARKING, UH, OF BOATS IN WCI AND MR. LANGIN, HIS
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WIFE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT RECOLLECTIONS BECAUSE, UH, I RECALL MEETING WITH MRS. CASTLE AND MS. CORBIN, MR. LANG AND HIS WIFE, UH, BEFORE THE PREVIOUS REZONING WAS APPROVED.AND WE SAID, IF YOU GET THIS APPROVED, THE NEXT STEP IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, AND THEN YOU CAN PARK BOATS, UH, IN THE BUILDING.
UH, HIS RECOLLECTION IN THE DIFFERENT, THAT'S FINE.
UH, AND THEN WE, THE COUNTY DID END UP ISSUING A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, UH, BACK IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, BECAUSE BOATS WERE STILL PARKED ON THE PROPERTY AND NO SITE PLAN HAD BEEN SUBMITTED.
UH, SO CAN I HAVE MR. LANG COME UP, STAND NEXT TO YOU HERE FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.
SO, MR. LANG, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU DID NOT SUBMIT A SITE PLAN? SO, I, I NEVER DID THIS BEFORE.
SO, UM, THE SITE PLAN I THOUGHT WAS FOR THE BUILDING.
I DID NOT KNOW I NEEDED A SITE PLAN TO PARK BOATS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, ACTUALLY, I WORKED WITH ANOTHER FELLOW, RYAN YER BEFORE MR. DAVIDSON AND ASSOCIATES, UH, AND GOT A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, WHICH WAS NOT WHAT WAS NECESSARY
SO, YEAH, WE WEREN'T SURE EXACTLY.
SO EVERYBODY WAS IN CONTACT WITH TIM, UH, IN REGARDS TO WHAT WAS NEEDED.
ALSO, UH, SAM, SAM DANIELS, DANIELS DANIEL, SAM DANIELS WAS ALSO CONTACTED BY BOTH RYAN YER AND DONALD DAVIDSON SO THAT WE KNEW
UM, SO KIM, COULD THE BOARD APPROVE A TEMPORARY SIX MONTH PARKING BUSINESS RESOLUTION? ALRIGHT.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION.
COUNTY, COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, YOU CAN, YOU ARE ALLOWED, UM, AS, AS, AS PART OF A, WELL, THIS IS NOT A USE, THIS IS A REZONING.
NO, IT'S NOT A RE THIS IS A REZONING.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH ZONING, THE PROBLEM WITH ZONING, AND WE'VE STRESSED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN ASKED VARIOUS QUESTIONS, IS THAT THE, THE, THE CONCEPT OF ZONING IS THAT WHATEVER YOU APPROVE IS APPROVABLE BECAUSE THE LAND IS SUCH THAT IT ALLOWS IT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE, THE HIGHWAY ACCESS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S A LAND USE CONSIDERATION APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION SAYS, THIS PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY SUITS THE USE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
IF SOMETHING'S GOOD FOR ONLY SIX MONTHS, IT SEEMS TO KIND OF RUN COUNTER TO THAT.
I'VE NEVER KNOWN ANYBODY TO DO IT BEFORE.
IF IT'S THE BOARD'S OPTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TO, UH, GRANT A REZONING WITH THAT KIND OF LIMITATION ON IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE IE THAT YOU HAVE A, A CERTAIN, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN PARKING FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, UM, IT, UM, IT MAY, I I I'VE JUST NEVER SEEN A CASE LIKE IT, BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO GRANT APPROVALS INTO PLACE, INTO PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT YOU'RE GRANTING.
UM, BUT TYPICALLY WITH THE RE WITH A REZONING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THIS AMOUNTS TO, YOU'D BE ASKING FOR, FOR MAYBE AN ADDITION TO THE PROFFER.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ADVERTISED.
BUT NO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT I THINK IF IT WERE OFFERED AS A PROFFER, UM, THAT THE BOARD COULD ACCEPT IT.
MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? PLEASE DO.
UM, SO I, I THINK MR. LANG AND MR. CROSS WOULD AGREE THAT APPROVING THIS RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT MOVES THE BALL DOWN THE COURT TOWARD WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME ISSUES, LIKE PROBABLY IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU'D LIKE TO JUST BE ABLE TO PARK BOATS ON THAT PIECE OF LAND, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU, YOU ALL BY BOARD ACTION CAN JUST DIRECT US TO IGNORE THE SITE PLAN ORDINANCE.
UM, SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MOVE THE BALL DOWN THE COURT, APPROVE THIS ACTION.
UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT MR. DAVIS COMES UP WITH.
AND YOU KNOW HOW ALL THAT WORKS.
AND AFTER A FEW MONTHS, IF, YOU KNOW, WE RUN INTO A BRICK MALL WALL, MAYBE WE COME BACK WITH SOME ALTERNATE SUGGESTION.
WELL, HERE'S THE REASON I'M EVEN OFF SUGGESTING THIS IS BECAUSE
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I KNOW THAT MR. DAVIS IS A PRETTY, UH, UM, POPULAR ENGINEER FOR WHAT ARE HE'S TRYING TO DO.AND SO IT CAN TAKE TIME, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME.
IT CAN TAKE, TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET A SITE OUT OF THERE.
UM, AND, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, WE STILL HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM THERE, AND THE BUSINESS IS STILL TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS.
AND I'M JUST DON'T WANT BUREAUCRACY TO GET IN THE WAY OF SUCCESS, CUZ WE EVENTUALLY WANT HIM TO SUCCEED.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HERE IS HOW WE CAN WE DO THAT ON A TEMPORARY MANNER SO THAT HE CAN GET THE BOATS OUT OF THE WAY OF THE MARINA SO HE CAN DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, BUT YET MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.
THE SITE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS ALREADY WCI.
SO WE'RE JUST MODIFYING THE REZONING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
HE'S AMENDING, ASKING TO RE AMEND THE PROFFERS, JUST AMEND THE PROFFERS.
WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT CREATING, WHY IS THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN A BIG REZONING THING? THE PROFFER MODIFICATION IS, UH, WELL, AMENDING A PROFFER IS A FORM OF REZONING.
I I JUST DID YOU TECHNICALLY, THAT'S A, IT JUST STRIKES ME THAT WE'RE LETTING BUREAUCRACY GET, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE DOING RIGHT.
OKAY, TIM, YOU GUYS ARE DOING RIGHT.
NEIL, YOU'RE DOING RIGHT, MR. ATTORNEY.
I'M JUST SAYING IF SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION, WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING'S JUST IN THE WAY OF US DOING BUSINESS.
WELL, AND YOU'RE HITTING THE CRUX OF THIS, OF THE QUESTION, I THINK, IS THIS A CODIFIED LEGAL REQUIREMENT? THIS YOU CAN'T, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN IN PLACE BEFORE PARKING CAN BEGIN? OR IS THIS A PROCESS QUESTION? YES, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
CO LEGAL REQUIRE YOU CHANGE THE USE OF PROPERTY.
AND, AND I THINK IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUBMIT, RIGHT.
AT LEAST COMMERCIAL USE IS A SITE PLAN TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE THE ADEQUATE PARKING THAT YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHATEVER BUFFERS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE CANNOT GRANT A, A TEMPORARY PARKING WAIVER WAIVER ON THIS PROPERTY.
IF YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THAT'S WHAT YOUR REQUIREMENT IS, I DON'T THINK BY RESOLUTION, YOU, YOU CAN OVERCOME IT OR, OR I DON'T THINK SO.
OR THIS WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ADVERTISED.
IF I MIGHT SUGGEST, AGAIN, I THINK A BETTER APPROACH IS ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT.
WE CAN, WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THE ORDINANCE.
WELL, WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO, UH, WE WE'RE BOUND BY, WE'RE BOUND UNDERSTAND IS THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS A BUSINESS WHEN IT STARTED.
WELL, WE UNDERSTAND DAVIDSON, SIR.
IT'S BEEN REZONED, RIGHT? OKAY.
YOU'RE NOW, YOU'RE NOW FALLING INTO ANOTHER BUCKET.
UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, A LITTLE, LITTLE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, OF, UH, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
SO, SO IF THE, IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS, WHAT WE WOULD ASK, UM, MR. LANG TO DO IN GOOD FAITH IS TO GET HIS PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE PLAN, UH, GET THAT WORKED OUT, SHARE IT WITH THE STAFF, AND, AND WE'LL TRY TO WORK THAT EXPEDITIOUSLY.
IF WE RUN INTO A BUNCH OF ROADBLOCKS, UM, MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH YOU AS A STAFF TO ALLOW SOME LIMITED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE ANY PROMISES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT RULES ARE.
YOU KNOW, THE BUFFERS, BUT CLEARLY IF YOU BUILD A BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN TO GO WITH US.
ALL RIGHT? I I'M NOT WAVING OFF ANY OF THAT.
BUT THE POINT WAS, I THINK I MADE MY POINT.
I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING GOING.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALL, THE ADVISORIES FOR THE SUPERVISORS SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH ADMINISTRATIVE PART.
YOU'RE NOW UNDER THE GUN TO GET THE SITE PLAN DONE.
WELL, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, BUT GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHERIFF? I CAN JUST ADD ONE THING.
IT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN THE COUNTY'S PRACTICE EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
THAT AS LONG AS SOMEONE IS WORKING IN GOOD FAITH TO BRING, BRING THEMSELVES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WE REFRAIN FROM AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.
AT LEAST FOR A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF A, LOOKING IN THE CLOUDS AND LOOKING, BREATHING THE SMOKE AND THEY'RE ALL RIGHT.
YOU FINISHED? DO YOU ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO ASK? OKAY.
I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS? THE NOW WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY, UH, SO I GOTTA TAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 23 DASH FOUR.
AND, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH FOUR TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
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OKAY, NEXT ONE.[4 Amend York County Code Sections 21-41 through 21-45, Real Property Tax Relief for Certain Elderly and Disabled Persons. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 23-1 to amend York County Code Sections 21-41 through 21-45, pertaining to Real Property Tax Relief for certain disabled persons. ]
THING HERE.THIS IS GOING TO BE, UH, THE MEN COUNTY CODE, UM, 21 40 21.
SEE COUNTY CODE SECTIONS 21, 41 AND 2145 PERTAINING TO REAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR CERTAIN ELDERLY AND DISABLED PERSONS WHO IS TALKING TO THIS.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO START, SIR.
SO, UM, UH, OUR COMMISSIONER REVENUE, ANN THOMAS IS IN THE HOUSE, AND SHE COULD CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THIS, UH, IN MORE DETAIL THAN I COULD, BUT I WAS GONNA TRY TO FRAME IT FIRST AND OKAY.
UM, RECALL THAT LAST YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE DID A ONE-TIME ADJUSTMENT MM-HMM.
AND WE PROMISED YOU AT THE TIME THAT, UH, WE WOULD WORK TO COME UP WITH SORT OF A MORE PERMANENT FIX, SOME TYPE OF AUTOMATIC ADJUSTMENT.
SO BRIAN FULLER AND THE TEAM, UH, WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND OUR ATTORNEYS, AND THIS IS THE ORDINANCE WE CAME UP WITH.
I HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD TIE THIS INTO ALL THE OTHER BUDGET ACTIONS, BUT BECAUSE OF ONE OF, UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S SUGGESTIONS, IT MADE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT SOONER.
SO THE CORE RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, PUT AN INFLATER IN EFFECT SO THAT EVERY CALENDAR YEAR IT WOULD GROW BASED ON A HUD CALCULATION ABOUT THE VALUE OF HOUSING IN A REGION.
AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, UH, BY OUR HOUSING MANAGER, IS THE RIGHT METRIC TO USE.
WHAT YOU SEE IN THE ORDINANCES, HOW THE ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THAT FORMULA WOULD WORK FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR WE'RE IN.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED THAT WE ALSO, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE A SET DEADLINE AND SORT OF HAVE EVERYBODY CROWD IN AND APPLY AT ONE TIME, THAT WE GO TO SORT OF A ROLLING APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO BY GOING AHEAD AND DOING THIS, UM, THE RULES OF THE PROGRAM WILL BE CLEAR AND THE, THE WORK CAN SORT OF BE SPREAD OUT AND NOT CRUNCHED IN AT, AT ONE TIME.
AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS GRANDFATHER THOSE SIX PEOPLE, SO NOBODY'S BENEFIT GOES DOWN.
THE VAST MAJORITY, UH, WOULD GO UP.
AND FINALLY, UH, THERE'S A SUBSET OF THESE PEOPLE, UH, THAT HAVE THE BENEFIT DUE TO DISABILITY.
AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A PRETTY CONVOLUTED PROCESS TO PROVE TO THE COMMISSIONER THAT YOU'RE DISABLED.
SO THIS ORDINANCE, UH, WOULD FURTHER, UH, AMEND THINGS SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A SOCIAL SECURITY DETERMINATION OF, UH, DISABILITY, THAT THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE.
SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR THINGS THE ORDINANCE DOES AND HOW'D THEY DO? GOOD ALL.
SO, ANNE, ANNE UNDERSTANDS ALL THIS.
LET LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAVE GOOD QUESTION.
UH, THESE FOUR DIFFERENT CRITERIA, WHY ISN'T THE VA DISABILITY PART OF THAT CRITERIA? ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT TOO? HE DID, I GUESS DIRECTED TO ANN, ANN THOMAS.
ANN, YOU NEED PLEASE COME FORWARD, PLEASE COMMISSION.
THIS IS ADDING SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE ALREADY HAD THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS IN THERE AND THE RAILROAD BOARD.
THAT'S, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION IN THERE.
SO THIS IS JUST ADDING SOCIAL SECURITY.
THAT ANNUAL AND LATER YOU MENTIONED, UM, IS THAT INDEFINITE YEAR AFTER YEAR, OR IS THERE A PERIOD OF TIME THAT THAT INFLATER WILL BE HAPPEN? IT IT WOULD BE ON A CALENDAR OR BASIS.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE ADJUSTED EVERY YEAR THERE'D BE A NEW CALCULATION, AND THEN WE WOULD APPLY IT TO, UM, JUST LIKE WE DID FOR THIS EXAMPLE NEXT YEAR AND EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER.
SO UNLESS THE BOARD TOOK SOME SPECIFIC ACTION, THE INFLATER WOULD AUTOMATICALLY APPLY IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND, UH, CHAD, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? UH, SHEILA? NOPE.
I WILL, UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I WILL ASK, UH, WELL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SEEING NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY LIKE, UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH ONE.
IS THERE, UH, ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, PLEASE CALL ROLL.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOEL IS TO ABDI PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH ONE TO AMEND YORK COUNTY CODE SECTIONS PERTAINING TO REAL
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PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR CERTAIN DISABLED PERSONS.AND THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND HELPING OUT WITH US.
OKAY, THEN, UM, NOW LET'S SEE.
[5 Amendment to York County Purchasing Ordinance. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 23-3 to reorganize and amend the York County Purchasing Ordinance to provide edits to clarify the policy. ]
GO TO ITEM FIVE AND IT'S CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF A PRO PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH THREE AMENDMENT TO YOUR COUNTY PUR PURCHASING ORDINANCE.SO I WOULD LIKE, UM, GREG SMITH, OUR CURRENT PURCHASING AGENT, AND CHRISTINE JOYCE, OUR PROSPECTIVE PURCHASING AGENT TO COME TO THE PODIUM.
THEY HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
UH, I WANT TO, IF I MIGHT JUST HAVE A, A, A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THESE FOLKS.
SO, GREG HAS WORKED, UH, FOR THE COUNTY SINCE 2018.
HE ARRIVED AS AN EXPERIENCED, UH, PUBLIC PROCUREMENT OFFICER.
UH, HE CAME UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
HIS PREDECESSOR, AS Y'ALL MAY RECALL, UH, WAS VERY ILL.
HE'S HELPED US FIGURE OUT, UH, ALL THE MEANEST PROCUREMENT, ALL OF THE WEIRD STUFF THAT HAPPENED DURING COVID.
HE HELPED US GET SORTED OUT AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY FOR HIM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SAD FOR US THAT HE'S GONNA BE, UH, RETIRING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
HE, UH, HE REALLY WANTED TO CLEAN UP OUR PURCHASING ORDINANCE BEFORE HE LEFT, AND I PROMISE THAT WE'LL GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE UP TO HIM TO SELL IT.
UM, AND THEN CHRISTINE, UH, UH, JUST JOIN US IN JANUARY KNOWING THAT GREG WOULD BE RETIRING SOON.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MONTHS OF OVERLAP.
UH, SHE HAS, UH, 10 YEARS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT EXPERIENCE, MOSTLY WITH, UH, GLOUCESTER COUNTY.
UH, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HER HERE.
AND I SHOULD MENTION THAT SHE'S ARRIVED AND HAS BEEN OBSERVING SOME OF OUR BIG PROCUREMENTS.
SO WE HAVE SOME OF HISTORIC PROPORTION GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING AND THE LIBRARY, AND SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
SO, UM, I WILL LET GREG KIND OF EXPLAIN IT, BUT BASICALLY, SINCE THE DAY HE ARRIVED AND HE READ OUR ORDINANCE, HE'S BEEN TELLING ME WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
WELL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, YOU'LL BE PLEASED TO KNOW I ONLY HAVE FIVE SLIDES, SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS RATHER QUICKLY, BUT WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE, THAT YOU HAVE.
SO IF YOU'LL START US, UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING INFLATION, AS YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IT IN YOUR HOME AND YOU SEE IT HERE AT WORK AS WELL.
UH, SO COST OF GOODS ARE INCREASING AS WELL AS SERVICES, BUT WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE DOLLAR LIMIT THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO APPROVE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT REAL CLEAR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING IT AS BEST WE CAN.
THERE MAY BE A POINT IN TIME WHEN CHRISTINE'S GONNA HAVE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, THE PRESSURES ARE REALLY TOO MUCH THAT SOME OF OUR ROUTINE PURCHASES BECAUSE OF INFLATION, LIKE WE JUST LAST FRIDAY HAD A VEHICLE WE HAD TO PURCHASE WAS OVER $50,000.
FORTUNATELY IT WAS IN THE CIP P BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.
UH, SO THERE MAY BE A TIME THAT INFLATION'S GONNA CATCH UP TO IT.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST THOSE LIMITS, BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.
UM, THE CURRENT THRESHOLDS, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, UH, IF IT'S IN THE CIP P AND OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE COME TO YOU.
IF IT'S IN THE CIP P AND BETWEEN 50 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE PURCHASE.
BUT WE, UH, THROUGH NEIL, GIVE YOU ALL NOTIFICATION THAT THE PURCHASE HAS BEEN MADE.
AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE CIP P AND IT'S OVER $50,000, THEN WE MUST COME TO YOU FOR A RESOLUTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON THE BOARD DOCUMENT, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND SOMETIMES IT SLOWS DOWN TRANSACTIONS.
BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK THE PROCESS RATHER WELL.
I THINK IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE ALSO SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD A NEW PROVISION INTO THE ORDINANCE, UH, CONCERNING RECYCLED GOODS, UM, THAT MATCHES, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
AND WHAT IT REALLY SAYS IS THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND SAYS, AND SAYS, I'VE GOT THIS RECYCLED ITEM, YOU'RE SPECIFYING SOMETHING THAT'S VIRGIN.
IF THEY CAN PROVE THAT IT'S THE SAME QUALITY, AND IF THEY'RE LOW BID, THEN WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO PARTICIPATE.
SO IT'S JUST OPENING THE DOOR REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
SURPLUS DONATIONS, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE THE FIRST THING.
AGENT IS ALLOWED TO, ON THE SCHOOL'S BEHALF, DONATE ITEMS TO NONPROFITS.
WE NEVER REALLY HAD THAT LANGUAGE IN THE COUNTY SIDE, SO I'D SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THAT IN THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE SOMETIMES AN, UH, ANOTHER JURISDICTION PERHAPS THAT, UH, IS REALLY DESTITUTE MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AS SURPLUS.
AND, AND THE PROCESS OF SELLING STUFF ON SURPLUS IS, IS, IS TIME CONSUMING.
SO IF WE COULD JUST PASS IT ON TO THEM, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL.
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UH, THE NEXT ONE IS LANGUAGE ALIGNMENT.UM, THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC PROCUREMENT ACT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER.
SO WE'RE IN A DILLON STATE, WE CAN ONLY DO LOCALLY WITH THE STATE SAYS WE CAN DO.
AND THE VP P A HAS SOME MANDATORY SECTIONS AND IT HAS SOME THAT IS KIND OF DISCRETIONARY.
SO WE TRY TO DO THE DISCRETIONARY STUFF AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
BUT FOR THE MANDATORY STUFF, UM, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE ALIGN OUR LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHAT THE STATE HAS IN THE VP P A.
SO THERE'S NO QUESTION AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
AND BY SIMILAR, UH, THOUGHT FOR FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, UM, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CODE OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS, WHICH IS, UH, CFR OR
UM, WE'VE CHANGED, WE PREVIOUSLY WE HAD THAT IN OUR ORDINANCE, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY TERESA OWENS AND MYSELF TRIED TO TAKE THE INFORMATION AND PUT IT INTO ART WORDS.
BUT THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY GET, ARE SUBJECT TO SO MUCH, UM, EXAMINATION BY THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES THROUGH AN AUDIT, I THOUGHT IT'D PROBABLY BE BETTER IF WE USE THE SAME WORDING THAT THEY USE THERE.
SO THEY WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED ABOUT, WELL, WE SAID THIS, OUR CODE SAYS THIS, WHAT'D YOU DO? I CAN SAY, WELL, WE DID YOUR STUFF AND THAT'S SLIDE FIVE.
SO, SO GREG, ON THAT LAST POINT, THAT IS REALLY ONLY FOR THOSE THINGS THAT, AND WHERE WE'RE USING SOME FEDERAL MONEY FOR PROCUREMENT.
AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, THERE'S A PORTION OF OUR PURCHASES THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED, BUT MOST IS NOT.
SO WE WOULD STILL OPERATE UNDER OUR, OUR CURRENT, UH, PROCEDURES.
THERE'S NO CHANGE IN HOW WE WOULD DO PROCUREMENT, ACTUALLY, EVEN IN THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENTS.
THERE'S NO REAL DIFFERENCE OTHER THAN SOME CERTAIN LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IN A SOLICITATION AND IN THE FINAL PURCHASE ORDER JUST TO ADHERE TO WHAT THE FEDS SAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, I WILL ADDRESS THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS HERE? I A QUESTION? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL DEFER, I'LL LET YOU DEFER TO, ALL RIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, AND PAGE FIVE, SECTION ONE DASH 10 APPROVALS IN SECTION SUBSECTION 1, 10 21 IS ABOUT EXCLUSIONS.
UM, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS, DOES THAT ALSO EXCLUDE THEM FROM THE MONETARY, THE 50,000 A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS APPROVAL NOTIFICATION GUIDELINES AS WELL? OKAY, SO WE'RE AT THE APPROVAL SECTION, SECTION ONE DASH 10.
SO YOU LOOK DOWN AT ONE DASH 10 21, EXCLUDED FROM ABOVE APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS SET OUT IN SECTION ABOVE.
DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? IS, DOES THAT ALSO EXCLUDE THE NEED TO NOTIFY OR APPROVE IF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT EXCEEDS THE, THE, THE GUIDELINES? OR IS IT JUST THE TYPE OF PURCHASE? IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE TYPE OF PURCHASE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE, THE BULK FUELS THAT WE BUY FOR VEHICLE SERVICES, WE DON'T COME TO YOU FOR THAT.
THAT'S JUST, IT'S UNDER CON WE, WE PROCURED IT COMPETITIVELY.
BUT AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL COMING TO YOU TO ASK PERMISSION, CAN WE BUY THE FUEL THAT'S NEVER BEEN THERE.
WE DID CHANGE THE WORD FROM GASOLINE NOW TO JUST BULK FUELS BECAUSE WE BUY DIESEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL.
AND THE SECOND THING, IF, IF YOU, AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, ORDINANCE CHANGE THE, UH, BUT YOU GET ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH AND YOU START SEEING LARGE SECTIONS STRICKEN AND NEW SECTIONS WRITTEN.
IS ALL OF THAT RELATED TO THE LANGUAGE TO MATCH THE, THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT YOU MENTIONED? BECAUSE TRYING TO READ ALL THAT, I'M CONCERNED, I'M TRYING TO COMPARE THE OLD TO THE NEW THAT I MAY MISS SOMETHING, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL RELATED TO IT'S, IT'S ALL RELATED LANGUAGE AND NOT, WE'RE MAKING FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES TOO.
SO THERE'S TWO BIG SECTIONS THAT YOU SEE, LIKE THAT ONE IS FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE EDUCATION OR P P E A.
WE ARE ALIGNING OURSELVES WITH THE STATE WORDING.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING, WE'RE ALIGNING WITH THE, UH, FEDERAL RULES.
SO, BUT, BUT OUR, THE WAY WE DO PROCUREMENT'S THE SAME.
UM, GREG, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD, I, IT GOES, WAS, I THINK IT'S ARTICLE TWO DASH 2.2, AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF PUBLICATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS, ADVERTISING RATHER THAN WHY.
ARE WE NOT, ARE WE NOT FOUND, EXCUSE ME, TO USE A NEWSPAPER STILL, WE ARE NOT BOUND TO USE THE, THE PUBLIC OF, THEY CALL IT THE, THE USE THE WORDING IN THE STATE CODE.
AND OUR LOCAL CODE USED TO SAY A NEWSPAPER OF LOCAL CIRCULATION.
UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND THE STATE HAS DONE IS THEY HAVE A, UH, ELECTRONIC PORTAL CALLED EVA, AND THAT'S WHERE, IN ADDITION TO OURSELVES, ALL OF THE STATE AGENCIES AND MOST OF THE LOCALITIES POST THEIR SOLICITATIONS THERE.
SO VENDORS CAN SUBSCRIBE TO EVA, THEY ACTUALLY GET PUSHED OUT NOTIFICATION.
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THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO DOWNLOAD OUR, OUR SOLICITATIONS.IT'S A MUCH BROADER WAY OF, OF SHARING INFORMATION MM-HMM.
UM, THE OLD ORDINANCE SAID THAT YOU HAD TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER.
I'M JUST SAYING TAKE THE OTHER ONE OUT, IT'S INEFFECTIVE.
AND WE, WE POST EVERYTHING TO EVA BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE, THAT'S JUST HOW WE GET THE STUFF OUT THERE.
WHEN WE WENT TO DOING THAT, WE STOPPED, UH, WE STOPPED HAVING TO MAKE COPIES AND GIVING TO VENDORS.
SO IT'S A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE WAY.
CHAD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ALWAYS SUPPORT STREAMLINING REGULATIONS.
THAT, THAT WAS THE ARTICLE 14.
UH, I THINK OUR RITA HAD SAID THE ARTICLE 14 WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING, AND THAT WAS THE YES.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY CARE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, YOU GUYS CLEARED OFF? IF I MAY MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT FIVE YEARS HERE.
I THANK NEIL AND I THANK THERE AND MARK AND, AND, AND YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE'RE A PART OF.
AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT CHRISTINE'S GONNA DO REALLY WELL.
SO LOOKING FORWARD, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WHEN WE NEED YOU.
AND CHRISTINE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY WITH YOUR COUNTY.
I'M HONORED AND EXCITED, UM, AND I'M GONNA DO A GOOD JOB.
WE'LL BE HEARING FROM YOU AND YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US, I'M SURE.
SO, UM, SO WE'VE HAD TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, IS, UH, WHAT'S PLEASURE OF THE BOARD SHERIFF, THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL MOVE BOARD'S NUMBER 23 DASH THREE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMBA IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH THREE TO REORGANIZE AND AMEND THE YORK COUNTY PURCHASING ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE EDITS TO CLARIFY THE POLICY.
[6 Amendment to Cox Cable Television Franchise Agreement. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 23-2 to authorize an amendment to the Cable Franchise Agreement with Cox Communications Hampton Roads, LLC. ]
NEXT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS AMENDMENT TO THE COX CABLE TV FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, AND IT'S, UH, CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER THIR 23 DASH TWO TO AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH COX COMMUNICATIONS, HAMPTON ROADS, LLC.AND WHO IS THAT ONE? I'LL START IT.
SO, UM, I THINK ALL Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT OUR CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS ARE RELATIVELY ANACHRONISTIC.
AND SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT UNDER THE LAW, EVEN THOUGH CABLE COMPANIES ALSO PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES.
THE PART THAT THE FRANCHISE RELATES TO IS THE CABLE, UH, TIM WYATT WITH SOME SUPPORT FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN WORKING TO, UM, TO UPDATE OUR AGREEMENT WITH COX.
AND I GUESS THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE WITH VERIZON THAT'LL TRACK VERY MUCH THE SAME WAY.
THERE'S REALLY JUST ABOUT THREE OR FOUR VERY BASIC THINGS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE OF THE FRANCHISE.
UM, WHEN THIS THING WAS DONE SOME YEARS AGO, AS YO READS HAD SAID, UM, WE NEGOTIATED CERTAIN PLACES IN THE COUNTY WHERE COX HAD TO PROVIDE, UH, CONNECTIONS MM-HMM.
AND IT TURNS OUT THAT I THINK FIVE OF THE SEVEN THAT THIS AGREEMENT ENVISIONED, UH, WERE NEVER REALLY, UH, UTILIZED AND YET, SO WE COULD, WE CAN CALL 'EM UP AND SAY, COME MAKE SURE THIS IS WORKING AT SOME PLACE THAT WE WEREN'T USING IT.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS, CAN WE, UM, UM, LEVERAGE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T REALLY CARE IF THEY MAINTAIN THAT THEY CAN TAKE IT OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT, AND INSTEAD GET 'EM TO DO A COUPLE THINGS UNDER THE REVISED FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL.
AND SO, UM, THEY HAVE AGREED TO INSTALL SOME DEVICES AT, UM, TWO OF OUR HUBS, UH, FIRE STATION THREE, WHICH IS ALSO WHERE FIRE STATION, AND THEN AT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS BY FAR OUR MOST, YOU KNOW, UH, COMPREHENSIVE, UM, NODE OF, UH, TECHNOLOGY.
I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO SAY WHAT THE STUFF IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN THOSE TWO PLACES, BUT IT'S WHAT WE WANT AND THEY'VE AGREED TO DO IT IN EXCHANGE FOR LETTING US ABANDON THE OTHER THINGS.
AND PROBABLY THE THING THAT PEOPLE WOULD CARE ABOUT MOST IS, UH, IMPROVING.
THEY COMMIT TO GO TO HDTV ON OUR CHANNELS.
SO, UM, AND, AND TIM, TIM CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT THE BASICS ARE, WE'RE WE'RE LETTING
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THEM STOP DOING SOMETHING WE DON'T CARE ABOUT.THEY'VE AGREED TO DO A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE HELPFUL FOR OUR TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT AND WE GET HDT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANNA SAY, I, I APPRECIATE STAFF EVERYBODY'S EFFORT TO NEGOTIATE WITH COX LIKE THIS TO GET WHAT WE NEED THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO US AND WORK OUT A GOOD DEAL WITH THEM AND, AND GET THIS ARRANGEMENT.
I KNOW IT COULD BE EASIER OR SHORTER RUNWAY TO STRUCK A CHECK TO PAY FOR THOSE, THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED, BUT THIS TYPE ABOUT OUTSIDE THE BOX SINKING IS BENEFICIAL TO BOTH PARTIES, SAVES THE, SAVES THE COUNTY MONEY, AND GIVES US WHERE WE NEED.
SO I, I LIKE, I LIKE THAT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THANKING.
ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? THIS IS WHAT, NUMBER SIX, I THOUGHT I HIT.
NOPE, I SIGNED UP FOR THAT ONE.
UH, THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AS FOR MOTION, I'D LIKE TO MOVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UH, 23 DASH TWO PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOEL AS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 DASH TWO TO AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CABLE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH COX COMMUNICATION.
[7 Application No. SE-27-22, Chick-Fil-A, Inc. – Greenbelt Buffer Request. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R23-35 to approve an application for a special exception to authorize land disturbance at an existing parcel located at 6732 Mooretown Road. ]
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION.R 23 DASH 35, THE APPLICATIONS FROM CHICK-FIL-A INCORPORATED.
IT'S A, UH, CONCERNS A GREEN BELT BUFFER REQUEST TO APPROVE AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO AUTHORIZE LAND DISTURBANCE AT 67 32 MOTOWN ROAD.
MR. CROSS? UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF, UH, TWO REQUESTS FROM CHICK-FIL-A THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THE CHICK-FIL-A RESTAURANT IN QUESTION IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MOORE TOWN ROAD IN FRONT OF, UH, HOME DEPOT.
UP THERE AT, UH, WHAT USED TO BE WILLIAMSBURG MARKET CENTER, THE VICTORY VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, ALL THE PROPERTY UP THERE IS ZONED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
CHICK-FIL-A WAS APPROVED THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BACK IN, UH, 2005, I BELIEVE.
SO THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 45 FOOT BUFFER ALONG MORE TOWN ROAD, AND THE BUFFER MUST BE LEFT IN AN UNDISTURBED NATURAL STATE UNLESS THE BOARD AUTHORIZES CLEARING OR DEVELOPMENT AFTER HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS IN THE COUNTY, WELL, NOT JUST COMMERCIAL, BUT CORRIDORS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS GREEN BELT, UH, ROADS.
AND MOORE TOWN ROAD IS ONE OF THEM.
UH, IF THE BOARD DOES AUTHORIZE CLEARING, THE ORDINANCE STATES THAT ANY MODIFICATION, UH, THE MODIFICATION MUST PRESERVE THE FEELING AND SENSE OF THE NATURAL CHARACTER OF THE GREEN BELT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD VERY MANY OF THESE REQUESTS.
THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO SINCE THE GREEN BELT.
UH, RULES, PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT.
UH, BOTH OF THOSE WERE APPROVED.
SO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT INVOLVES AN ENCROACHMENT OF ABOUT SIX AND A HALF FEET INTO THE 45 FOOT BUFFER, UH, TO ALLOW, AND I'LL SHOW A, A SKETCH, BUT IT'S TO ALLOW A WIDENING OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES, GET MORE CARS THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
THE TOTAL AREA OF THE ENCROACHMENT IS 325 SQUARE FEET, UH, WHICH REPRESENTS JUST 3.6% OF THE ENTIRE BUFFER AREA.
SO FAIRLY LIMITED, UH, CLEARING.
SO HERE'S A BIRD'S EYE VIEW, UH, OF THE RESTAURANT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, EVEN IN THIS PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO LANES OF, UH, OF, OF, UH, VEHICLES AT THE DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, QUEUED BACK INTO THE PARKING AREA.
UH, HERE'S A VIEW FROM MOORE TOWN ROAD.
UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BETTER EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE OF, OF A GREEN BELT BUFFER.
THAT THAT DOES WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO.
CAUSE IT PROVIDES CHICK-FIL-A, THE, THE VISIBILITY THAT THEY NEED.
UH, BUT IT PROVIDES A BUNCH MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, UH, APPEARANCE WITH ALL THE GREENERY THAT YOU SEE THERE.
SO THIS IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE CHICK-FIL-A.
UH, THIS IS THE VIEW IF YOU'RE HEADED, UH, SOUTHBOUND, UH, AWAY FROM, UH, LOWE'S OR ROUTE 1 99.
AND THEN HERE'S A VIEW COMING THE, THE OTHER DIRECTION HEADED NORTHBOUND, UH, UP TOWARD LOWE'S.
UH, WHERE YOU SEE THIS, UH, WHITE VEHICLE, THE WHITE TRUCK, THIS IS THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THE, UH, ENCROACHMENT INTO THE BUFFER WOULD TAKE PLACE.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY BETTER, UH, IN THIS PICTURE, UH, THIS AREA OVER HERE WHERE THE, UH, UH, TWO-LANE DRIVE OR ONE LANE, UH, DRIVE-THROUGH WOULD BECOME
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TWO.AND THEN THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE CARS THAT ARE BACKED UP UNDER THE CURRENT SITUATION, UH, WHEN IT GETS BUSY LUNCHTIME.
I THINK THIS TOOK THIS ONE ON A SATURDAY AT LUNCHTIME.
UH, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE QUEUES BACK UP EVEN INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, DRIVE AISLE.
THIS IS THE SKETCH PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED.
UH, THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS WHERE THE ENCROACHMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
UM, AND THERE'S, UH, A BETTER VIEW OF IT.
AS I SAY, IT'S ABOUT SIX AND A HALF FEET AT ITS WIDEST POINT.
UM, AND, UH, WHAT THEY'RE, LET ME, LET ME GO BACK A SECOND.
UH, SO HERE'S AN AERIAL PICTURE SHOWS THE, SHOWING THE CURRENT SITUATION.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TWO DRIVE-THROUGH LANES CURRENTLY MERGE INTO ONE.
UH, AND, UH, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OPERATIONALLY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES WITH EMPLOYEES OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, VERY EFFICIENTLY MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH TAKING ORDERS.
UH, THEY'VE REDONE THE, UH, CIRCULATION PATTERN IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR TO SEPARATE THE PARKING TRAFFIC FROM THE, UH, UH, DRIVE-THROUGH TRAFFIC.
UH, BUT THEY STILL EXPERIENCE THOSE BACKUPS.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE, UH, THE CURRENT SITUATION AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'VE GOT TWO-LANE DRIVE-THROUGH GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH FROM THE, WHERE YOU PLACE YOUR ORDER TO WHERE YOU PICK UP YOUR ORDER.
AND THE IDEA IS THE VEHICLES WILL MOVE THROUGH MORE QUICKLY.
UH, AND YOU WON'T HAVE THESE BACKUPS OUT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND BACK INTO THE DRY VILE, UH, THAT CURRENTLY TAKE PLACE.
UH, THEY ARE NOT REMOVING ANY TREES, UH, AS PART OF, UH, THAT ARE IN THE GREEN BELT BUFFER.
UH, IN FACT THEY'RE ADDING VEGETATION.
UH, THEY WILL BE PLANTING THIS, UH, AN AMERICAN ELM HERE, UH, IN THIS LOCATION, 1214 FOOT HEIGHT, UH, AT PLANTING.
AND THEY'RE ALSO, UH, GOING TO PLANT, UH, SHRUBBERY ALONG THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE, WHICH WILL SHIELD VIEWS OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM MOORE TOWN ROAD.
UM, AND SO THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, EVEN WITH THE SLIGHT LOSS IN GRASSY AREA, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE LANDSCAPING, UH, AFTER THIS PLACE TAKES, TAKES PLACE THAN THERE CURRENT IS CURRENTLY IS TODAY.
UM, AS I SAID, ALMOST ALL OF THE BUFFER, 96% IS GONNA REMAIN INTACT.
NO TREES GONNA REMOVE, PRE REMOVE, UH, THE NEW PLANTINGS ARE GONNA PROVIDE SCREENING.
UH, SO WE FEEL THAT, UH, OH, WE FEEL, AND ALSO IT'S GONNA IMPROVE THE PARKING, CIRCULATION, UH, AND SAFETY, UH, BOTH ONSITE AND BACK, UH, INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, UH, THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 2335.
UH, MR. ROB BEMAN, UH, IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CHICK-FIL-A.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'D BE HAPPY TO CHECK YOU BACK IT UP AT THIS TIME.
BACK IT UP TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
I WANNA SEE THE, THE, WHERE THE LANDSCAPING, OKAY, NOW I NOTICED THAT THE LANDSCAPING, AND THAT WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS, IS THAT THE BUSINESS NEXT DOOR IS ALLOWING CHICK-FIL-A TO PUT THE LANDSCAPING ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY RELATED MORE TO THE SECOND APPLICATION, CUZ THAT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE GREEN BELT, UH, BUFFER.
UH, THEY HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DIALYSIS CENTER TO PLANT THE SHRUBBERY ON THE DIALYSIS CENTER'S PROPERTY, WHICH WILL SCREEN VIEWS OF THE DRIVE-THROUGH FROM THE DIALYSIS CENTER.
THAT'S, SO HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO ALL OUR REGULATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU GOTTA DO ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY GOING SO YOU CAN JUST GO OVER AND GET THE NEIGHBOR TO LET YOU USE THEIR PROPERTY? IS THAT, I MEAN, WELL, THERE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUTUALLY SHARED BUFFERS BETWEEN, UH, PROPERTIES.
UH, I DIDN'T MENTION IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT AS, UH, UH, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THE NORMAL LANDSCAPE YARD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, IS, IS NOT, UH, DOES NOT EXIST.
NORMALLY YOU'D HAVE A 10 FOOT SIDE LANDSCAPE YARD.
UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, CHICK-FIL-A GOT A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO ADD THIS, LET ME SHOW THAT CURRENT CONDITION TO ADD THIS BYPASS LANE.
UH, MORE RECENTLY, IN FACT, LAST MONTH OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVED ANOTHER VARIANCE TO BASICALLY EXTEND THE
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BYPASS LANE.SO THAT WOULD ALSO ENCROACH INTO THE LANDSCAPE YARD, AND THAT ALLOWS THEM ENOUGH ROOM TO DO THE, UH, TWO FEET OF TWO, TWO LANES OF, OF DRIVE-THROUGH.
UM, BUT YES, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ORDINANCE FOR SHARING OF BUFFERS, UH, BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS QUESTIONS.
SO SPEAKING OF, SPEAKING OF THAT VEGETATIVE BUFFER, SO THIS BOARD HAS BEEN SHOWN CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS SEVERAL TIMES FOR A PROPOSED PROJECT, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN IT GETS DEVELOPED, IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT PROPOSED, UH, CONCEPTUAL DRAWING.
SO WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IN THE OTHER PICTURE, IF YOU GO, I THINK FOUR ONE, UM, OF THE NEW YEAH.
SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M ASSUMING IS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF SOME PROPOSED, UH, VEGETATIVE BUFFER, WHICH IS GREAT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IS A COMMITMENT FROM SOMEBODY WITH AN AUTHORITY THAT WE'LL SAY, YES, THAT WILL HAPPEN AS PRESENTED HERE, AND WE DON'T GET SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE OR HALF OF WHAT WE EXPECTED.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WORK? OKAY.
I I, I DIDN'T, UH, PREPARE A SLIDE ON IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE STREET LEVEL RENDERINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE, PRE-DEVELOPMENT, POST-DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND POST-DEVELOPMENT RENDERING IS REFERENCED IN RESOLUTION R 23 DASH 35.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT RENDERING.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT TAKING OUT ANY TREES.
SO, UH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING STRU.
SO, UH, IF THEY WERE TAKING OUT TREES, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONCERN.
THEY'RE REALLY JUST TAKING OUT GRASS.
BUT I'M, I'M SEEING WE'RE NOT BEING SOLD HERE AS A THING, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THAT THING.
WELL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WELL, I, I WISH I, I WISH I'D DONE THIS SLIDE, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE THE STREET LEVEL RENDERINGS AND THOSE ARE REFERENCED, UH, THERE'S, ARE INCLUDED YOUR PACKAGE AND THOSE ARE REFERENCED IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE, UH, THE ONLY DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM IS THAT YOU'VE GOT THE SHRUBS IN THE POST-DEVELOPMENT RENDERING THEN, UH, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT RENDERING.
BUT A RENDERING IS A COMMITMENT.
SO IS THE, WELL, IT'S A COMMITMENT IF IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND, AND IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT ITEM LINE THREE OR ITEM THREE IS IN THE CONDITION, CONDITION NUMBER? UH, YEAH, UH, THREE.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
MR. GREEN, ALL THIS WORK IS GOING ON ON THEIR PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES.
AS FAR AS THE DRIVER LANE WITH THE DRIVEWAY AND THE, THE PLANNINGS ARE ON THE NEIGHBORS, THE, UH, ABOUT HALF OF THE, UH, SHRUBBERY, SHRUB, UH, PLANTINGS ARE ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERLY? YES.
UH, WELL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
IF THE DISCUSSION'S OVER, I'LL MOVE IT.
WE GOTTA GET THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.
AND FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK AND STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE, AND THE ADDRESS.
MR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE, UH, BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
I'M A LOCAL LAND USE ATTORNEY AT THE TROUTMAN PEPPER LAW FIRM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF CHICK-FIL-A.
UH, FIRST, I, I'M SORRY, ADDRESS.
MY ADDRESS IS 2022 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, SUITE 2000 IN VIRGINIA BEACH, 20 3004 62.
UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, TIM AND HIS TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK ON THIS APPLICATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
THEY'VE BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH, AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AS TIM MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION INVOLVES THE EXISTING CHICK-FIL-A STORE OVER A MOORE TOWN ROAD THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE ABOUT 2007.
UH, WHAT WE'VE NOTICED KIND OF AS A RESULT OF COVID ARE, OR WHICH HAS ACCELERATED COMING OUT OF COVID, IS THAT MORE AND MORE FOLKS ARE USING THE DRIVE-THROUGH INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND DINING IN, IN THE, IN THE DINING ROOM AT THIS STORE, IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO THIRDS OF THE GUESTS NOW ARE USING THE DRIVE-THROUGH INSTEAD OF COMING IN THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DINE-IN, UH, SERVICE.
AND SO, UH, THE, THE DRIVE-IN ITSELF, IN THE STORE AS, AS WAS SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT THAT TIM SHOWED YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO, STARTS OUT AS A TWO-LANE DRIVE-THROUGH WHERE FOLKS ORDER, THEN IT NARROWS DOWN TO ONE LANE AS IT WINDS AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN BROADENS OUT TO TWO LANES AGAIN, UH, WHERE THE FOLKS PICK UP THEIR FOOD.
AND IT'S THAT LITTLE ONE LANE PORTION THAT'S CREATING A LITTLE BIT OF A PINCH POINT AND IS BACK IN TRAFFIC UP, AS TIM MENTIONED, THROUGH THE SITE NORMALLY, BUT SOMETIMES ON BUSY DAYS OUT INTO THE, INTO THE HOME DEPOT DRIVE AISLES AND THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
AND SO IN ORDER TO AMELIORATE THAT, CHICK-FIL-A WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT DRIVE THROUGH TWO LANES ALL THE WAY AROUND, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US NOT ONLY ADDITIONAL QUEUING AREA, I THINK IT'S UP TO EIGHT CARS TO CAPTURE ONSITE SO THEY DON'T SPILL OUT OF THE SITE, BUT ALSO JUST HELP EVERYTHING, UH, WORK A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY SO WE CAN GET, CAN GET PEOPLE IN AND OUTTA THAT SITE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY.
UM, THAT WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT 45 FOOT, UH, GREEN BELT.
UH, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT ENCROACHMENT AS, AS TIM SHOWED, IS TO PROPOSE A LINE OF LANDSCAPING THAT IN CURRENTLY THERE, UH, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, THE CAR LEVEL VIEWS OF THE SITE TO TRY TO TRY TO BETTER, UH, AND ENHANCE THE GREEN BELT, THE VISUAL IMPACT OF THE GREEN BELT, UH, ON THIS SITE.
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AND SO WE BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCES AND, UM, AND WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, WITH THE VISUAL APPEARANCE THAT'S THERE NOW.AND, AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AS TIM MENTIONED, THERE IS A, A CONDITION THAT REQUIRES US TO PLANT THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE ELEVATIONS, UH, SO THAT WE'LL BE BINDING ON US, AND WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT AS PART OF SITE PLAN.
UH, FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE DID REACH OUT TO THE, THE KIDNEY DIALYSIS CENTER NEXT DOOR, AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THOSE FOLKS.
THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION.
THEY'VE INDICATED THAT WE CAN PLANT THOSE, THOSE SHRUBS.
THEY, THEY LIKE THE SHRUBS, THEY PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE SEPARATION THAN IS CURRENTLY THERE, SO THEY BELIEVE IT'S AN UPGRADE AS WELL.
BUT WITH THAT, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SIR? THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS, IS STOP THE QUEUING UP OF CARS GOING INTO THE SHOP CENTER.
WILL THIS CHANGE MITIGATE THAT PROBLEM? YES, SIR.
THERE, THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE EIGHT CARS OR QUEUING SPACE FOR EIGHT ADDITIONAL CARS ON SITE AS A RESULT OF THIS CHANGE, WHICH WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO ANY EFFICIENCIES, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THAT WE, I'M GLAD YOU HAD A NUMBER FOR ME.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS SIDE? OKAY.
I'LL, NOW, I'LL OPEN THE QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST GIMME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE ONE PERSON, UH, MR. CHAMBERLAIN, YOU SENT ME OUT HERE.
UH, TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TWO 70 BARLOW ROAD IN WILLIAMSBURG.
UM, I, I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THIS AND, AND WE EAT AT THIS CHICK-FIL-A ALL THE TIME, BUT I'M, UM, I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THIS PROPOSAL GOING INTO THE BUFFER.
THIS IS A DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS.
UM, CHICK-FIL-A HAS WITHOUT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, MODIFIED AND GOT A ZONING APPEAL APPROVED IN JUNE OF 19.
UM, A SECOND ONE IN JUNE OF 19.
JUST GOT ANOTHER ONE IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE IN THIS PICTURE, AND YOU'LL SEE THE TREE IN THE CORNER IS GONE, BUT WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANY TREES DOWN, BUT SOMEHOW THAT TREE MAGICALLY DISAPPEARED.
YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE TO PLANT, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE TO MAINTAIN.
SO ONCE THEY PLANT THESE SHRUBS AND THEY DIE, WHICH HAPPENED DOWN THE STREET, IT'S OVER.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WATER.
AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO STOP THE DEATH OF A THOUSAND CUTS.
YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PROPOSAL COMING WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE NEW BUSINESS TO DO MORE FOR THIS, THIS RESTAURANT.
UM, AND THE WAY TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH THE DRIVE-IN FASTER IS TO HAVE MORE FOLKS PREPARING FOOD FASTER.
WHEN YOU SIT IN THAT DRIVE-THROUGH AND WAIT.
AND IT'S NOT A QUEUING ISSUE, IT'S A FOOD PREPARATION ISSUE.
THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING ALL OF THE BACKUPS.
THAT'S WHY WE SIT IN THOSE LINES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE FOOD OUT FAST ENOUGH.
UM, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BLANK CARS IN FRONT OF YOU, SO YOU'RE WAITING FOR FOOD TO GET DELIVERED TO THE CARS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THAT'S WHAT'S BACKING IT UP.
SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, IS THERE ANY, ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? HEY, MR. CROSS GOT A QUESTION.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CROSS, UH, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO TELL ME, I, I NOTICED ON THE, THE DIAGRAM, SO WHAT'S, WHERE'S THE TREE GOING? HERE'S, IT'S DISAPPEARING.
WHAT I SAID WAS, NO TREES ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THE GREEN BELT BUFFER.
THERE IS, THAT'S NOT IN THE GREEN BELT BUFFER, CLEARLY A TREE OUTSIDE THE GREEN BELT BUFFER.
THAT WILL BE REMOVED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THAT, UH, UH, EXPANDED.
AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE VEGETATION.
NOW THE QUESTION IS THE STATEMENT THIS BRINGS UP, UH, MR. CHAMBER BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN OTHER PLACES NOW.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE TROUBLE HEARING ME, UH, MY EARS ARE
SO IT IS REPLANTING AND NOT REPLANNING, BUT MAINTAINING, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN SEVERAL OTHER, UM, I THINK THE HARMONY, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN ON THE CORNER OF, UH, I THINK IT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, DOWN THE CORNER OF, OF VICTORY BOULEVARD IN 1 34.
UH, IT'S THE AGE, UH, SO CONFERENCE CENTER, RIGHT? SO HE PUT A POND IN THERE, AND THEN, THEN A BUNCH OF TREES DIED THAT WERE IN THE POND, UM, UH, FOR THE DROUGHT OR WHATEVER.
AND DO WE GO BACK AND MAKE 'EM REPLANT? MM-HMM.
I MEAN, TREES SHOWED UP, BUT I MEAN, JUST DO, DOES THE COUNTY GO BACK AND MAKE 'EM REPLANT THE TREES? YES.
THAT'S, SPELL THAT IN THE LANDSCAPING SECTION OF THE ZONING.
IT'S NOT IN THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRED MM-HMM.
SO THE POINT IS THAT WE DO MAIN, WE
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HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN THE GREEN BELT.OR WHATEVER'S BEEN DESIGNED IN THE, IN THEIR PROFFERS.
UH, SO WE CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION NOW FOR ANYBODY.
SO ANY DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD ON THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMBA IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
ARTHUR R 23 DASH 35 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
UM, AND THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.NOW THE NORMALLY IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT, BUT I HAVE A PERSON THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO I WAS GONNA LEAST HONOR THAT PART.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, FIRST ITEM, A REQUEST TO REFUND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX ON, UH, FROM A S ST.
UH, ITEM 10 IS A REQUEST TO REFUND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, UH, H V T INCORPORATED AS A TRUSTEE OF HONDA LEASE.
UH, ITEM ELEVENS EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER.
AND, UM, HAS ANY BOARD MEMBER WISH TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE? THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THE CONSENTING HAS, THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
IS THERE ANY COMMENT ON DISCUSSION OF THIS? SEE NONE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOEL IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED.
AND WE GOT A NEW BUSINESS THING HERE.
LEMME CATCH UP WITH ALL THE, AND
[12 Application No. UP-1002-23 Chick-Fil-A, Inc. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R23-34 to approve an application for a minor amendment of a previously approved Special Use Permit for a fast-food restaurant with drive-in service at 6732 Mooretown Road. ]
IT IS ITEM 12.AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE, UM, CHICK-FIL-A ISSUE.
SO THIS IS APPLICANT NUMBER, UH, UP 1002 DASH 23.
CHICK-FIL-A IS A MINOR EXPANSION.
UM, SAME CHICK-FIL-A MOTOWN ROAD.
UH, I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT IT WAS APPROVED THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BACK IN 2005.
UH, WHEN, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS EXP OR WHEN SOMETHING GETS APPROVED THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS ENLARGED, EXPANDED, UH, IT'S SUBJECT TO, UH, CERTAIN LEVELS OF APPROVAL DEPENDING ON HOW LARGE THE EXPANSION IS IN THIS CASE.
UH, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE FLOOR AREA BY 9.2% AND LOT COVERAGE BY SIX OR PROPOSING TO EXPAND LOT COVERAGE, 16.7%.
UH, WE HAVE A THREE, THREE-TIERED SYSTEM IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IF THE EXPANSION IS UNDER 5%, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
IF IT'S BETWEEN FIVE AND 25%, IT CAN BE APPROVED BY YOU ALL WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING AND WITHOUT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW.
AND IF IT'S GREATER THAN 25%, UH, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, GO BACK THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE BOTH BODIES.
SO IN THIS CASE, UH, THEY'RE IN THAT MIDDLE CATEGORY, 5% TO 25%.
SO THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT AND NO PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, REVIEW REQUIRED.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE SKETCH PLAN AGAIN, BUT IT'S HIGHLIGHTING THE VARIOUS, UH, AREAS, UH, OF EXPANSION, UH, THE TWO I ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT.
THE OTHER THING IS THE, UH, SMALL ADDITION, UH, TO THE BUILDING, UH, TO THE REAR THERE, UH, WHETHER YOU SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UH, THE NEW PLANNINGS ARE GONNA PROVIDE SCREENING FROM THE DIALYSIS CENTER.
UH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PLANTINGS IN THE FRONT THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER IN THE GREEN BUILD.
AGAIN, PARKING LOT CIRCULATION AND SAFETY WILL, WILL BE IMPROVED.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT.
WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, RESOLUTION R 2334.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING.
OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
UM, ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANNA DISCUSS ANY OF THIS? NO.
YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR TIM?
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GOING BACK REAL QUICK TO THE PICTURE WITH THE YELLOW ADDITIONS, PLEASE.AND TELL ME THE NUMBERS OF THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
AGAIN, IT WAS 16.7% AND IT WAS A 16.7% INCREASE IN LOT COVERAGE.
SO THERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES.
AND THEN THERE WAS ABOUT A NINE, I THINK 9.2%, UH, INCREASE IN BUILDING AREA.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ADDITION HERE.
NOW, THESE PERCENTAGES APPLIED TO CHICK-FIL-A AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
UH, THERE WAS A MINOR EXPANSION THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BACK IN 2019, A MINOR BUILDING EDITION.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE BOARD OF, UH, ZONING APPEALS APPROVED THE, UH, UH, UH, THE BYPASS DRIVE-THROUGH LANE, UH, WHICH INCREASED THEIR LOT COVERAGE.
SO WHEN WE CALCULATE THESE PERCENTAGES, IT'S NOT THE PERCENTAGE BETWEEN TODAY AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, IT'S THE PERCENTAGE BETWEEN HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
UH, OTHERWISE YOU COULD JUST KEEP DOING 5% INCREASES AND NEVER HAVE TO GET ANY APPROVAL.
I'M JUST THINKING IT'S JUST THAT THAT LOT WAS A WHOLE LOT BIGGER THAN FOR THAT YELLOWS PART TO BE 16.7%.
IT'S, I MEAN, BUT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE MATH, THAT'S THE MATH, IT'S JUST, WELL, IF ANY, IF IT'S LESS THAN THAT, THEN SO MUCH THE BETTER.
BUT, UH, THOSE SUPPOSED BE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANTS ENGINEERS.
SINCE THERE'S REALLY, YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
AND WE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ITS ROLL CALL, THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLES TO AB ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 23 DASH 34 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
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OKAY.AND LET'S GO BACK TO, UH, IN OUR, TO OUR AGENDA AND MATTER PRESENTED BY THE BOARD.
UM, MR. GREEN, UH, THIS IS VORE DIRECTED TO MR. MORGAN.
AND, UH, IF FIRE CHIEF IS OUT THERE, UH, OVER THE LAST WEEK, WE'VE SEEN, UH, THE HORRIFIC, UH, PICTURES AND TESTIMONY FROM, UH, OHIO WITH DERAIL DERAILMENT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A PLAN, UH, IN PLACE IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO HAPPEN HERE IN YORK.
I KNOW, UH, A LOT OF RAILS TRA UH, TRAINS GO THROUGH IN GOD'S COUNTRY UP THERE IN DISTRICT ONE.
AND WE HAVE SPURS THAT COME DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER COUNTY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN.
IT'S UP TO DATE, THE CONTACTS ARE UP TO DATE, AND, UH, THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE.
SO MR. MORGAN, IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO US ON THAT AND, UH, TALK TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WAS THE MOST DANGEROUS PART WAS THE EXPRESSWAY WAS NOT THE RAIL.
AND, UH, THEY HAD, THEY TALKED ABOUT A CASE AND WHERE A SEMI WAS COMING DOWN THE ROAD AND SOMEHOW ENDED UP FLIPPING OVER.
AND WHAT IT DID IS BUILT BODY PARTS.
ALL IT WAS CARRYING BODY PARTS, AND SO HUMAN BODY PARTS, AND THEY SPILLED 'EM ALL OVER THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING.
BUT, UH, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TRAVELED DOWN 64, AND YOU WOULD ALSO BE SURPRISED, INCLUDING TOXIC WASTE AND STUFF.
AND THEY GOT A GREAT, GOT A GREAT PLAN, UH, TO DO THAT ANYWAY.
AND, AND I'VE BEEN IN SOME MOCK PLANS THAT THEY'VE HAD AT THE OIL REFINERY, UH, BACK WHEN THAT WAS GOING IN THE PLAINS, AND JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANS ARE, HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND THE CONTACT NUMBERS ARE THERE AND MM-HMM.
SO IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WERE TO HAPPEN, WE'D BE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
WELL, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK, UH, IF THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE TERM BY MR. GREEN'S COMMENTS.
UM, WE'VE ALL BEEN READING A LOT IN THE NEWS LATELY.
WERE THOSE ON TV, NEWSPAPERS OR WHAT HAVE YOU? OR WITH THE PERCEIVED THREAT FROM THE CCP IN, IN PARTICULAR, THE CCP CP NOT SO MUCH THE CHINESE PEOPLE.
UH, AND THERE'S BEEN A FACT THERE.
YOU GOT A LIST HERE ABOUT 15 THINGS.
PLETHORA OF, OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING IN THE COUNTRY INCLUDE THESE TRAINED DERAILMENTS AND THE LIKE.
MY, UH, COMMENT AND, UH, EITHER I WILL PEN A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR OR THE VICE, UH, GOVERNOR AS TO WHAT THE, THE, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA'S PLANS ARE, IF AND WHEN ANY OF THESE PERCEIVED THREATS OCCUR.
NOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING TO MY KNOWLEDGE DOWN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
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FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT, I DON'T KNOW OF IT.I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD KNOWS OF IT.
AND SO THE REAL QUESTION IS, UH, LIKE MR. SHEPHERD, I SPENT 33 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY, AND THE, THE BASIC WORD OF THE DAY WAS READINESS, YOU KNOW, READINESS, READINESS.
AND I THINK NOW BECAUSE THE MILITARY HAS GONE WOKE, FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, READINESS IS NO LONGER A TOP PRIORITY OF THE MILITARY TO, TO RESPOND TO WHATEVER THREAT HAPPENS TO BE.
SO I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I I KIND OF SOMEWHAT STAY UP LATE AT NIGHT THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UNLESS THE ADMINISTRATION'S GOOD AS SQUARES AWAY.
I THINK WE'RE FLAT ON OUR BUTT.
AND SO, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE GOV GOVERNOR, WHETHER IT'S THE WHITE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, SOMEBODY, THERE WILL BE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WHETHER THEY BE COUNTIES AND CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A RESPONSE IN IN HAND SHOULD SOMETHING OCCUR.
I THOUGHT BRIEF US ON THAT THE NEXT TIME.
SO, UM, HAMPTON ROADS PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION HAS AN EMERGENCY SET UP.
I THINK MAYBE OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COULD TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, BASICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE MM-HMM.
AND IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER PLAN LIKE THE ONE THAT MR. GREEN WAS ASKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, DOES IT RESPOND WITH THE ATTACK? UH, IT'S GOT ALL KINDS OF SCENARIOS MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, RADIOLOGICAL, BIOLOGICAL, ACCIDENTAL, UH, I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND THAT.
YOU KNOW, A PLAN LIKE THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF EVERY EVENTUALITY.
BUT THERE IS SOME, UH, THERE'S SOME ONGOING EFFORT TO CAUSE OF THE ASSETS THAT ARE ENHANCED, THE ROADS, AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A LIKELY AREA THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TARGETED IN A, IN A CONFLICT.
BUT I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE SOME MORE.
I SUSPECT THAT, THAT THAT ORGANIZED ORGANIZATION IS PROBABLY SOMEWHAT ALONE IN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE HECK WE HAVE OUT THERE.
CERTAINLY THERE 75,000 PEOPLE THAT YOU COMPRESSED YOUR COUNTY KNOW NOTHING TO DO.
WOULD, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT WOULD I DO? WHAT WOULD WE DO AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, LET ALONE MY NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH? YOU WOULD BE PLEASED TO KNOW THAT, UM, THE, UM, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE REGIONAL, UH, ALL HAZARDS, UH, COMMITTEE IS OUR FIRE CHIEFS.
SO EVEN THOUGH YORK COUNTY'S 4% OF THE POPULATION OF HAMPTON, THE ROADS, OUR, OUR FIRE CHIEF CHAIRS, THAT, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON, UH, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS IS CHAIRED BY OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR.
SO YORK COUNTY HAS, UM, A MODERATE AMOUNT OF WEIGHT IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU MORE.
IT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST FORCE.
YOU KNOW, I, UM, SO I THINK I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING BACK, WELL, CAUSE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, BEING ATTACKED, UM, BY ANOTHER ENTITY, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE STATE, LIKE CHINA OR RUSSIA, OR SOMEBODY WITH A, PARKED WITH A, A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE OR WHATEVER.
AND I'M THINKING, I KNOW SHEILA, AND YOU AND I HAD LIVED THROUGH A TIME IN THE FIFTIES WHERE YOU, YOU'D SEE THESE PICTURES THAT WOULD, YOU'D BE IN SCHOOL.
AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS SAY, OKAY, WE WOULD HAVE NUCLEAR DRILLS AND OUR NUCLEAR DRILL WAS TO DROP IN, GET DOWN UNDERNEATH A TABLE, OR GET AGAINST A WALL.
AND YOU KNOW THAT IN THE END, AFTER MANY, MANY YEARS IN THE COMPLETE SERVICE AND AND WHATNOT, UM, I REALIZED THAT WHAT THAT WAS WAS JUST A, IT WAS A MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD MOMENT.
NOW, I LIVED IN FLORIDA, AND YOU MAY RECALL THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS, AND THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME REALLY POPULAR DOWN THERE.
MY DAD WAS A WORLD WAR II, UH, VET IN, IN THE MARINE CORPS AND, AND THINK OF FLORIDA AND SAND AND THE MARINE CORPS AND WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY DIG HOLES TO BUILD BUNKERS.
AND SO ON OUR FARM, WE WERE OUT THERE DIGGING, DIGGING LIKE CRAZY, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO BUILD A BOMB SHELTER TO SURVIVE BECAUSE RUSSIA WAS DOWN THERE IN CUBA AND 90 MILES AWAY AND HAD ALL THEIR, THEIR NUKES AND WE WERE FACING OFF.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, FOLKS, IF YOU NEVER EXPERIENCED, NOT MANY OF YOU ALIVE HAVE EXPERIENCED, UH, ANYTHING TO DEAL WITH NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS OR WHATNOT.
UM, AND I'M NOT BY ANY MEANS OF EVEN SEEING A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION OTHER ON TV.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, UH, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOW IN THE NUCLEAR BUSINESS WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD WIPE OUT ALMOST ALL THE PENINSULA AND ALL OF THE 1.7 MILLION
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PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS DISTRICT ON LIVE IN THIS AREA, HAMPTON ROADS.WHY IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIG MILITARY BASE RIGHT? NEARBY.
YOU TAKE OUT CITIES LIKE NEW YORK OR BIG, BIG AREAS.
SO WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE SERIOUS IS NOT THE ONE WHERE IT COMES IN AND JUST FLATTENS THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COUNTRYSIDE.
YOU NEED TO TAKE SERIOUS, THE ONES THAT COME IN AND POSSIBLY SCREW AROUND WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE OUR POWER GRID, WHICH YOU SAW SOME, SOME IDIOT USING IT FOR TARGET PRACTICE AND SHUTTING DOWN FOR ALMOST A WHOLE WEEK.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR.
UM, AND THEY'RE, AND IT'S A WHOLE, WHOLE, THERE'S JUST A WHOLE STUDY OF HOW TO HANDLE THESE THINGS, WHICH NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO REALLY TAKE SERIOUS.
SO OUR BIGGEST THREAT RIGHT NOW, I THINK WOULD BE OUR, UH, INATTENTION TO THINGS LIKE A, A BIG HUGE STORM COMING IN HERE AND FLATTENING OUR AREA THAT YOU LIVE IN A FLOODED AREA.
WE HAD ISABEL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED LIVING THROUGH THAT FOR A WEEK, TWO WEEKS, A MONTH, COUPLE MONTHS, UH, THINGS LIKE THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR.
SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
I, UM, ON A BRIGHTER SUBJECT, UH, I HAD A RIBBON CUTTING, UH, TO, UH, ONE GIRL BAKERY.
NOW A LOT OF YOU GO, OKAY, ONE GIRL BAKERY.
WELL, I, NOT ONLY WAS I THERE, I BOUGHT A TON OF FOOD, TOOK A TON BUN OF THE CAKES, LEMON CAKES, COFFEE CAKES, CHOCOLATE THINGS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT.
THIS, UM, THE, UM, THE, IT'S AT 36 30 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE ONE B.
IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND, BUT IT'S IN THE PILGRIM VILLAGE PARKING AR UH, UH, PROFESSIONAL PARK.
UM, AND, UH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU GO DOWN THERE.
IT'S, UH, MOM, THERE'S MOM AND THE DAUGHTER.
ACTUALLY THE DAUGHTER NOW HAS IT.
AND, UM, AND THERE'RE A LOT OF TIMES DOWN AT OUR, OUR WEEKEND FESTIVALS AND YOU CAN EXPERIENCE THEIR CAKES AND STUFF.
IT IS, I WON'T, I WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT LOW COW, BUT IT IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
SO THAT'S ONE GIRL BAKERY AND I WELCOME THEM TO, UH, TO YORK COUNTY.
UM, AND THEY MOVED TO YORK COUNTY BY THE WAY, OUT OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS CHESAPEAKE, BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY.
THEY FELT THAT THEY, IT WAS A NICE, SAFE PLACE TO DO BUSINESS AND LIVE.
AND ANOTHER ONE I HAD, UM, UH, THE RIBBON CUTTING I JUST HAD WAS AT THE BAY HAVEN GRILL.
AND THE EASIEST ADDRESS, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S NEXT TO THE HARLEY DAVIDSON PLACE.
AND, UH, AND THE NEW OWNERS DOWN THERE, UM, THEY HAVE TRIED, THEY, THEY, THEY, UH, THE, THE PERSON THAT OWNED IT HAD WAS GONNA SELL AND THEY FOUND PEOPLE THAT, TWO OWNERS THAT ARE, HAVE TEAMED UP FOR YEARS AND BUSINESSES AND THEY'RE LOCAL.
UH, AND THEY WANTED THEM TO MAINTAIN THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE FOR THAT.
AND UH, MY FAVORITE DISH THERE IS THE FRIED FLOUNDER SANDWICH.
SO YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO DOWN TO THE BAY HAVEN GRILLS.
HOW ABOUT TOMORROW? SO IF I HAVE A MOMENT, MR. FULLER, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR APPLICANTS FOR THE NEXT CLASS OF THE YORK COUNTY YOUTH COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A FEW ON ON HAND, DEFINITELY WANT SOME MORE.
SO IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS HERE IN THE COUNTY, UM, TO APPLY, WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM.
SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHO'S THE BE BEST FIT IN THE NEXT SESSION.
SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE ENCOURAGE 'EM TO APPLY.
WE HAVE NO CLOSED MEETING TONIGHT.
AND, UH, WE'LL BE ADJOURNING THIS MEETING TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS THAT WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM TO TUESDAY, MARCH THE 7TH OF MARCH ALREADY.
YES, IN THE EAST ROOM OF YOUR CALL.