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LOOK AT THE CAMERA.[1. Call to Order]
OKAY.I'M CALLING TO ORDER, UM, YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, MONTHLY MEETING.
UM, FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS HAVE A STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES THAT WE, UM, READ THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING.
THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON LAND USE AND PLANNING ISSUES AFFECTING THE COUNTY.
THE RESPONSIBILITY IS EXERCISED THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS CONVEYED BY RESOLUTIONS OR OTHER OFFICIAL MEANS AND ARE MATTERS OF PUBLIC RECORD.
THE COMMISSION IS COMPROMISED OF CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD REPRESENTING EACH VOTING DISTRICT AND TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE ROLL.
[4. Approve Minutes – December 14, 2022]
OKAY.WE'RE GOING TO, UM, ASK IF ANYONE HAS A CHANGE TO THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
HAVE YOU ALL HAD TIME TO READ THEM? IT'S NOT ON THERE.
EVERYBODY'S GOOD? UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE.
WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
THE MOTION BY MR. KRAINER IS TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH.
[5. Citizen Comments]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITIZEN COMMENT AND ANY CITIZEN THAT HERE, THAT HAS TO MAKE A, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO TOPICS UNRELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.SO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS LATER? ANYBODY HERE SEEING NO ONE? I WILL MOVE ON.
[Application No. ZM-195-23, Curt and Pamela Lang dba Mills Marine: Request to amend, pursuant to Section 24.1-114(h) of the York County Zoning Ordinance, the voluntarily proffered conditions of approval applicable to a 0.4-acre parcel of land (GPIN U09a-1948- 3780) located at 1737 Back Creek Road (Route 718), that was conditionally rezoned by the York County Board of Supervisors from RR (Rural Residential) to WCI (Water-oriented Commercial/Industrial) in January 2022. The applicants are requesting to amend the proffers by removing “boat service and repair” from the list of uses prohibited on the property and adding a condition stating that any boat servicing or repair work would be conducted indoors. The property is designated Limited Business in the Comprehensive Plan.]
GONNA REVIEW THE CURRENT APPLICATIONS.I GUESS THIS WILL BE THE COUNTY PRESENTATION.
THIS'S APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE, UH, PROFFERED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL APPLICABLE TO A FOUR ACRE PARCEL AT 1737 BAT CREEK ROAD.
UH, THIS IS AN AREA YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH BY NOW.
THIS IS THE THIRD APPLICATION WE'VE HAD, AND JUST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR, UH, IN THIS AREA.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED, UH, IN BLUE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BACK CREEK ROAD.
AS I SAID, IT'S ABOUT FOUR TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
UH, IT'S ZONED WCI WATER ORIENTED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, UH, SURROUNDING ZONING IS MOSTLY RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BUT ACROSS, UH, ACROSS BACK CREEK ROAD LONG SHIRLEY ROAD, UH, IS ZONED WCI WATER ORIENTED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES MILLS MARINA, WHICH THE APPLICANT, UH, KURT PAMELA LANG ALSO OWN.
YOU MAY RECALL, UH, NOVEMBER, 2021, UH, THE LANGS CAME TO THE COMMISSION TO REQUEST REZONING OF THE, UH, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO WATER ORIENTED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
THAT APPLICATION, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, SUBJECT TO PROFFERED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, UH, LAST JAN A YEAR AGO, UH, IN JANUARY.
AND THEY HAVE NOW COMING BACK TO REQUEST, UH, A CHANGE TO THOSE PROFFERS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THIS, UH, PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA ARE DESIGNATED LIMITED BUSINESS, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT'S INTENDED TO RECOGNIZE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT ARE IN OR NEAR
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RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAT REQUIRE ACCESS TO THE WATER.UM, AND SO, UH, AND SO THEY HAVE A BUSINESS DESIGNATION.
HERE IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AS IT APPEARED IN 2021.
AND HERE'S A STREET VIEW, UH, FROM LAST DECEMBER.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, AT THIS POINT, MOST OF THE, UH, BOATS THAT WERE BEING, UH, PARKED ON THE STORED ON THE PROPERTY, UH, HAVE BEEN REMOVED, UH, BY, BY NOW.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPERTY ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME TO THE SOUTH.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
AND, AND THEN HERE'S A VIEW OF MILLS MARINA SEEN FROM THE END OF BACK CREEK ROAD.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICANTS OWN BOTH THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND MILLS MARINA.
AND HERE'S A SIDE VIEW OF THE MARINA SHOWING, UH, THE AREA WHERE BOAT SERVICING REPAIR, UH, CURRENTLY TAKES PLACE.
YOU CAN SEE THE LIVING QUARTERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE GARAGE UNDERNEATH.
UM, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR, UH, REZONING APPLICATION YES, WAS, UH, UH, WAS TO, UH, RESIGN THE PROPERTY FROM R R TO WCI, AND THAT WAS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS VOLUNTARILY PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANTS.
UH, SPECIFICALLY, THEY PROFFERED THAT THE USES THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY.
THESE ARE USES THAT WOULD ORDINARILY BE ALLOWED IN THE W C I ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THEY PROFFERED THOSE OUT.
UM, THEIR PLANS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.
UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT, UH, THEY HAD A, UH, WERE WORKING TO ACQUIRE A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN NEWPORT NEWS, UH, TO CONDUCT A BOAT REPAIR BOAT SERVICING, UH, THAT TRANSACTION FELL THROUGH.
UH, SO, UH, THEY WOULD NOW LIKE TO, UH, UH, TO DO, UH, TO DO THAT SERVICING AND REPAIR, UH, ON THE, UH, PROPERTY AT 1737 BACK CREEK ROAD.
UH, THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL REZONING APPLICATION, THE PURPOSE OF THAT APPLICATION WAS TO ALLOW, UM, UH, PARKING OF BOATS AND EQUIPMENT, UH, IN A, IN A METAL BUILDING TO BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THEY STILL WANT TO DO THAT, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR BOAT SERVICING, BOAT REPAIR.
SO THE APPLICATION BEFORE EACH UNIT IS TO AMEND THE PROFFERS TO REMOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS FROM THE LIST OF PROHIBITED USES.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED THAT ANY BOAT SERVICING REPAIR WOULD BE CONDUCTED INDOORS.
UM, SO, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO PUT UP A BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, IF THEY PLAN TO, UH, CON IF THEY PLAN TO PARK A BOAT AND EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, UH, NO OUTDOOR PARKING OF BOATS WOULD BE PERMITTED.
AND, UH, SO THE APPLICANTS, UH, DID SUBMIT, UH, THIS, UH, SKETCH PLAN WITH THE ORIGINAL REZONING.
UM, AND IT'S KIND OF SUPERIMPOSED HERE ON, ON A GI ME, UH, MAP OF THE COUNTY.
UM, IT'S NOT REALLY TOTALLY TO SCALE, SO, SO DON'T TAKE THE DIMENSIONS TOO SERIOUSLY, BUT IT DOES GIVE A GRAPHIC, UH, GRAPHICAL DEPICTION OF, UH, OF THE BUFFERS THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED.
YOU'VE GOT 20 FEET TO THE FRONT, UH, ALONG BACK CREEK ROAD, THAT WOULD BE YOUR FRONT LANDSCAPE YARD ON THE SIDES.
THERE'D BE A 12 AND A HALF FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, UH, REQUIRED.
AND TO THE REAR, THERE'D BE ALSO BE A 12 AND A HALF, UM, 12 AND A HALF FOOT BUFFER, UH, REQUIRED.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
UM, AND OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A BUILDING, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.
UH, THE SITE PLAN IS GONNA HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE COUNTY ZONING REQUIREMENTS, BUILDING SETBACKS, BUFFERS, PARKING, ET CETERA.
UM, AND AS, AS PART OF THAT SITE PLAN SUBMISSION, THE, UH, SINCE THEY ARE, THEY ARE PLANNING, UH, WELL, ASSUMING THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED AND, AND BOAT SERVICING IS, IS ALLOWED THERE,
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UH, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN SUBMISS SUBMISSION, THERE WOULD BE, UH, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT, UH, WE CALL IT A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS PLAN.IT'S REALLY, UH, PLAN, UH, DEMO DEMONSTRATING HOW THEY ARE GOING TO ADDRESS, UH, ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, PETROLEUM BASED PRODUCTS, UH, AND STORMWATER RUN UP TO PREVENT THEM, PREVENT, UH, THOSE MATERIALS FROM GETTING, UH, INTO EITHER GROUNDWATER OR SURFACE WATER.
UM, SO THAT WOULD ALL BE PART OF THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, AGAIN, ALL REPAIR SERVICING WORK WOULD BE CONDUCTED INDOORS, UH, MINIMIZES THE NOISE IMPACTS ON, ON SURROUNDING HOMES.
UH, AS I NOTED, PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED LIMITED BUSINESS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND, AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY INTENDED FOR WATER ORIENTED USES.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO WELL THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION PC 23 DASH ONE.
UH, THE APPLICANT, MR. LANG, IS HERE TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME, GENTLEMEN, MR. HOREY.
OKAY, A COUPLE QUESTIONS, MR. CROSS.
UM, THE DRAWING WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US SHOWS A 27 FOOT BUFFER AT THE BACK, UH, EQUAL TO 15%.
UH, YOU HAD SAID IT'S 12 POINT A HALF.
YEAH, THAT'S, UH, IT SHOULDN'T BE LABELED BUFFER, ACTUALLY, THAT'S, UH, IS A 27 FOOT, UH, BUILDING SETBACK.
THE BUFFER IS 12 AND A HALF FEET, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO BE 27 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
THE BUILDING SETBACK IS 27 FEET.
IT'S, IT'S 15% OF THE LOT DEPTH, WHICH IS 180, UH, 180 FEET.
THIS PROPERTY IS NON-CONFORMING.
UH, AND SO, UH, THE NON-CONFORMING USE, UH, PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOW CERTAIN DEVIATIONS, UH, FROM THE NORMAL REQUIREMENTS.
SECOND, SECOND QUESTION WAS ON THE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS.
COULD YOU GIVE US A HISTORY ON THAT AND WHAT, WHAT IS CURRENT OR WHAT IS, UH, NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS, UH, ISSUED DECEMBER 13TH OF LAST YEAR.
UH, ZONING INSPECTOR, UH, ZONING OFFICER, UH, HAD, UH, GONE OUT TO THAT AREA TO, FOR INSPECTION OF A, OF ANOTHER PROPERTY, UH, AND OBSERVED THAT, UH, BOATS WERE BOATS AND, AND I THINK BOAT TRAILERS WERE BEING, WERE PARKED ON THE PROPERTY, UH, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO BUILDING.
AND SO THE, UH, NOTICE OF VIOLATION DIRECTED THE APPLICANTS TO EITHER, UH, REMOVE THE BOATS, UH, OR SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR THE BUILDING, UH, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE NOTICE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS DECEMBER 20TH.
SO THAT WOULD BE JANUARY 20TH WHEN THAT 30 DAYS, UH, RUNS OUT.
AND HAVE YOU RECEIVED A SITE PLAN? NO SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED YET, GENTLEMEN? NO.
UH, MR. CROSS, IS THERE ANY LIMIT TO WHAT IS IN, WHAT IS SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE THAT IS THERE? HEAVY MAINTENANCE, YOU COULD PULL THE ENGINE, TEAR IT DOWN THE EACH INDIVIDUAL PIECE, REPAIR THAT, PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
SUPER STRUCTURE OR THE INTERIOR.
IS THERE ANY LIMITS THERE? THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT REALLY DEFINE, UH, BOAT REPAIR.
UH, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS OF A AUTO REPAIR AND AUTO SERVICE AND WHAT CAN AND CAN BE DONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE FOR BOAT REPAIR.
SO WOULD WE BE OUT OF LINE IF WE REQUESTED A, LIKE A ROUTINE WHEN I, WHEN I READ ABOUT ROUTINE SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE, THAT IS MORE LIKE WHAT I WOULD DO IN MY DRIVEWAY.
VERY, WOULDN'T BE TEARING DOWN ENGINES AND PUTTING 'EM ALL BACK TOGETHER AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IT'S MORE QUICK REPAIRS, NOT HEAVY REPAIRS THAT YOU WOULD DO.
IS THERE A WAY, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? THIS IS A REZONING.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT A USE PERMIT.
WE CANNOT IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON A REZONING.
UM, NOW ON THAT PROFFERED, UH, LIST OF PROHIBITED USES, UM, YOU DO HAVE, WELL, NEVERMIND.
I'M SORRY, I WAS GOING DOWN THE WRONG, WRONG TRACK THERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, ANY CONDITIONS, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE VOLUNTARILY PROFFERED BY THE APPLICANT.
IT COULD BE A HEAVY PROHIBIT HEAVY MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE IF THEY SO DESIRED.
I'M SORRY, THEY COULD PROFFER HEAVY MAINTENANCE AND, AND SERVICE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE EXCLUDE, THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN
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BUILDING A BOAT AND COMPLETELY.I MEAN, THEY COULD, THEY, THEY COULD PROFFER THAT IF THEY WERE SO INCLINED.
ANYTHING THEY WANT, BUT THEY, IT'S GOTTA COME FROM THEM.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT RECOMMENDING PROFFERS,
SO WE'RE GOING TO O OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, FIRST WE ARE GONNA INVITE THE APPLICANT FOREIGN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS KURT LANG, THE OWNER OF MILLS MARINA, UH, AT 1742.
BACK CREEK ROAD IS WHERE WE RESIDE.
MY APPLICATION IS TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL PROFFER.
UH, REASON BEING IS WE WERE NEGOTIATING AN OFFER FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN NEWPORT NEWS, UH, THAT DID FALL THROUGH.
SO THE NEXT BEST THING WOULD BE TO KEEP SERVICE WHERE WE ARE.
UH, WE ARE, WE CURRENTLY SERVICE BOATS AT THE MARINA.
JUST, WE'D BE ABLE TO WORK ON A MAJORITY OF THE BOATS INDOORS, SO WE'RE OUT OF THE ELEMENTS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING, IS BEING ABLE TO, UH, GET OUT OF THE ELEMENTS WHEN IT'S OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES OR WHEN IT'S RAINING.
UM, AND AS FAR AS, UH, THE, THE MAINTENANCE ON THE BOATS, I, WE DON'T REBUILD MOTORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO OUR, OUR EXPERTISE IS BASICALLY GENERAL REPAIRS, ELECTRICAL, UH, MECHANICAL AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, TUNEUPS, OIL CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I, I DON'T GET INTO OVERHAULS BECAUSE IT'S TOO TIME CONSUMING AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MANPOWER.
UM, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
UM, NOTHING'S CHANGING THE SAME SIZE BUILDING, UH, IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN, IN, IN THEIR END.
OR I DIDN'T REALIZE, I THOUGHT BECAUSE I HAD TO RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD GO FROM THAT APPLICATION.
SO I APOLOGIZE THAT, UH, IT KIND OF FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS THERE.
UM, WELL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
DOES ANYONE UP HERE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR, UM, THE PICTURES THAT ARE UP THERE? WHAT? OH, SO THESE TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS.
UH, THESE PHOTOS HERE ARE OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, SHE HAD OBJECT TO MY APPLICATION BECAUSE ONE, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC, UH, THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC, WHICH I REALLY DON'T THINK THE TRAFFIC WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE WE ALREADY SERVICE BOATS CURRENTLY.
UM, AND, UM, IN REGARDS TO MAINTAINING THE BUFFER, UM, I MEAN, NOBODY MAINTAINS THE NEIGHBORS NOW, AND THAT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
UM, AND I'VE ASKED BEFORE ABOUT THE SIDING, KEPT BLOWING OFF ONTO MY PROPERTY, THE ROOF AT ONE TIME, UH, PART OF THE ROOF CAME OFF AND ALMOST HIT ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE BOAT RAMP, AND NOTHING'S EVER BEEN DONE.
AND JOYCELYN COMES ON A REGULAR BASIS TO, UH, LET ME KNOW THAT BOATS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE PARKED ON THAT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THERE WERE SIX BOATS ON THE PROPERTY WHEN I BOUGHT IT, AND THEY WERE ALL DERELICT BOATS.
AND NOT ONE TIME ANYBODY SAID ANYTHING TO ME THEN, UH, UNTIL BUSINESS STARTED PICKING UP AND WE HAD MORE PARKING, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
SO SINCE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, I'VE, THOSE DERELICT BOOTS I'VE DISPOSED OF, THEY'RE GONE, WHICH WAS AN EYESORE.
UM, AND I DIDN'T WANT THAT ON MY PROPERTY TO BEGIN WITH.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO KEEP THE MARINA, UH, NOT AN EYESORE.
THE BOATS THAT WERE IN THE WATER WHEN I BOUGHT THE MARINA THAT WERE IN EYESORE ARE GONE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO CREATE A NICE CLEAN ATMOSPHERE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
WE HAVE SO MANY KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW COME DOWN TO THE MARINA TO BUY DRINKS, ICE CREAM, UM, HANG OUT AT THE DOCKS,
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ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO HAVE.AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE.
SO TO HAVE AN UNSAFE, UM, TRANSITION WITH, UH, EXTRA TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WHEN CARS AND TRUCKS COME DOWN WITH BOATS, THEY'RE NOT HAULING BUTT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THE MARINA.
UM, AND WE HAVE A DESIGNATED, UH, TURNAROUND IN THE MARINA, WHICH IS VERY, VERY USEFUL FOR THE BOATERS, GIVES THEM PERFECT LINEUP TO BACK INTO THE BOAT RAMP.
EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN A VERY SMOOTH PACE.
UM, HECK, I EVEN WHEN WE GET BUSY, I EVEN PARK CUSTOMERS VEHICLES FOR THEM.
SO WE'RE JUST HERE TO, UH, TO HAVE A GREAT ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE A, A GOOD, PROSPEROUS BUSINESS.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, AND NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ANYMORE.
THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, NOW I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, SO WE'LL GO TO THEM NEXT.
UM, JEREMY COX, AND I'M ASSUMING YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE? YES, MA'AM.
UM,
WE NEED THE ADDRESS, ADDRESS, NAME AND ADDRESS.
OUR, OUR, OUR HOUSE WE BOUGHT BACK IN FEBRUARY, ALMOST A YEAR AGO, IS 4 0 5 CROCKETT IN SEAFORD.
UH, ABOUT A MILE FROM THE MARINA, A MILE AND A HALF PERHAPS.
UM, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, I'M A ORIGINALLY AN OLD LOUISIANA BOY, UM, GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN.
UM, YOU GET, IT SEEMS LIKE IN A SMALL TOWN, A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW EVERYBODY, UH, KNOW EACH OTHER.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF STORIES, I'M SURE, OF LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE GREAT AT ONE TIME, KIND OF FADED AWAY OVER THE YEARS.
UM, MILLS MARINA SEEMS TO HAVE THAT STORY AS WELL.
UM, I KNOW THAT MY WIFE AND KIDS, LIKE MR. LANG HAD ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT LOTS OF KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAKING TRIPS DOWN THERE.
UM, I THINK OVERALL IT IS A, A, A GREAT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, I THINK THE, THE IDEA OF A SMALL BUSINESS GROWING, UM, IS GREAT FOR OUR COUNTY, UM, SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MORE OR LESS BE HERE FOR SUPPORT FOR HIM, UM, AND HIS WIFE.
UM, WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR US.
AND I JUST, LIKE I SAY, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW MY SUPPORT.
UM, SECOND I HAVE IS MR. MOORE, JOHN MOORE.
BUT MA'AM, I, I GOT HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER.
I'LL JUST ASK WHEN I I GET DONE WITH HIM IF ANYBODY ELSE.
UH, JOHN MOORE, I LIVE AT 1 0 5 CLUB WAY SEAFORD, UH, BEHIND THE STORE.
UH, I ALSO, UM, AM THE OWNER OF, UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, ADJACENT TO THE MAIN, MAIN PART OF MILLS, MARINA, AND A ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UM, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTIONS NIGHT.
SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, UM, THIS IS A, A COMPLICATED ISSUE.
UM, I HAVE SUPPORTED MR. LANG, UM, IN HIS REZONING FROM RR TO WCI.
UM, AND NOW, UM, WE WERE BACKTRACKING ON THE PROFFERS, AND SO, UM, I LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS GOING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU BRING BACK UP THE LIST OF PROFFERS, UH, ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN REVIEW THAT.
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OKAY.UM, SO RIGHT NOW, UM, TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, UM, PROHIBITED BY PROFFER, UM, THIS IS SOME MISINFORMATION IN MY MIND.
UM, THERE IS A BAIT TACKLE MARINE STORE, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT INCIDENTAL GROCERY SALES, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, ON THE 1, 2, 3, THE FIFTH LINE BOAT SERVICE, BOAT SALES RENTAL, AND FUEL DISPENSING.
SO I, I'M, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE BOATS SERVICE, CUZ CLEARLY HE JUST SAID HE SERVICES BOATS.
UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY BOATS SAIL SO PASSED BY THAT.
UM, OR RENTAL AND FUEL DISPENSING ABSOLUTELY HAS FUEL DISPENSING.
I MEAN, THERE'S A DIESEL, BIG OLD DIESEL TANK AND HE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE GALLONS IS, BUT IT'S WAY UP THERE.
UM, AND, AND GASOLINE TWO TANKS, UM, IN A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT I, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO.
UM, IT IS RIGHT BESIDE THE WATER.
I'M SURE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PAST SOME COUNTY INSPECTIONS, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO IN THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT FUEL DISPENSINGS ON THAT LIST, BUT IT'S CLEARLY FUEL DISPENSED.
UM, AM I, AM I INTERPRETING THESE PROPERS INCORRECTLY? NO, SIR.
UM, OKAY, SO I, I JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH THESE PROFF, IF, IF, IF, IF I COULD CLARIFY WHAT'S THAT? THESE PROFFERS PERTAIN ONLY TO THE PROPERTY AT 1737 BACK CREEK ROAD.
THEY DO NOT APPEAR, NOT THE MARINE PERTAIN TO THE MILL TO PROPERTY MAIN.
SO STILL DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
UM, SO THE, UM, THE 12 AND A HALF FOOT BUFFER, UH, ESSENTIALLY THOSE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN UP THERE ARE DATED PICTURES.
UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FRONT TO THE BARBERSHOP.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FROM, UM, HAVING SEAT FOR TRANSFER, BOY YOU DON'T WANT TO TOUCH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING PERMITS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PERMITTED, BUT IN THE YORK COUNTY PROCESS, WHICH I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO BUILD A NEW WAREHOUSE AND I CAN'T DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING PERMITTED.
AND I SEE MY TIME'S UP, SO I'LL STOP.
UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.
WHO AM I MISSING THE GENTLEMAN BACK TO SPEAK? I DO.
THE GUY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK THE GENTLEMAN GENTLE.
SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION, UM, JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, UM, DANIEL EVANS, ONE 13 MONTGOMERY LANE.
UM, YEAH, I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF KURT AND WHATEVER HE'S TRYING TO DO.
UM, I HAVE A SMALL MARINE BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT SHOP JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONTEND WITH ALL THIS
UM, I FLY WAY, WAY UNDER YOUR RADAR
UM, AND I'M, I'M ACTUALLY CLOSING UP SO YOU'RE UNDER A PSEUDONYM.
SO I'M, I'M CLOSING UP THIS PSEUDONYM.
YEAH, I'M CLOSING UP BUSINESS PRETTY SOON, BUT FOR OTHER REASONS.
BUT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, THE, THESE MARINAS, THEY'RE GOING AWAY.
I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS AND THE MARINE BUSINESS REPAIR, I'M A BOAT BUILDER BY TRADE, SO I'VE WORKED IN COMPOSITES AND FIBERGLASS AND ALL THE, THE NASTY STUFF NOBODY WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY MESS WITH.
BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS OVER 25 YEARS FROM DELTAVILLE ALL THE WAY TO NORFOLK.
THE, ALL THESE MARINAS ARE GOING AWAY.
THESE MARINAS ARE BEING PURCHASED BY CONGLOMERATES JUST LIKE SUNTEC THAT OWNS THIS ONE HERE IN GLOUCESTER.
THAT'S NOT THE HALL FAMILIES ANYMORE.
THAT'S BEING INSTALLED OUT TO SOME INVESTMENT FIRM.
UM, A LOT OF THESE MARINAS THAT I USED TO WORK OUT IN NORFOLK, THEY'RE GONE.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THESE GUYS LEFT AND THEY'RE CRITICAL TO YOUR BOATING COMMUNITY.
SO IN SEAFORD DARE, UM, YORK COUNTY IN GENERAL, I MEAN, WE'RE ON THE WATER.
I MEAN, YOU GOT A LOT OF BOATERS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RELY ON OLD DUDES LIKE KIM THAT WORK ON THESE ENGINES AND HAVE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT STUFF.
UM, THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THAT LEFT.
AND IT'S, IT'S GOING AWAY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD PRESERVE.
NOBODY WANTS, YOU KNOW, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ABOUT, OH, BIG ENGINE REPAIR AND ALL THIS STUFF, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE SCALLOP COMPANY RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AND ON A QUIET NIGHT I HEAR THEM FANS OF HUMMING AND, AND I LIVE PROBABLY A QUARTER MILE FROM IT.
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IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW.UM, I KNOW NOBODY WANTS, YOU KNOW, MUCH OF NOISE AND RACKET IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT THAT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST PART OF LIVING ON THE WATER, YOU KNOW? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I DON'T KNOW.
I, YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND SOME COUNTY THINGS AND SOME RULES AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT I MEAN, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE BUSINESSES LIKE HIS, UM, CUZ THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT.
WE'VE GOT WORMLEY CREEK, OF COURSE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, CHRIS JUNIOR BUYING DARE AND DOING WHAT HE'S NEEDED TO DO THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THESE, THESE COOL LITTLE MARINAS LEFT.
UM, AND IF, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS, AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S HARD, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST LIKE I'VE SEEN SO MANY OF HIS SIZE, THEY'RE GONE AWAY.
THEY'RE CONDOS NOW IN NORFOLK AND THEY'RE PRETTY CONDOS.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANNA SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT PRESERVE.
HAS ANYBODY ELSE WANNA COME FORWARD? NOPE.
UM, WHERE WE GO? MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, DID PROVIDE A LETTER, UH, FOR THE REC, PUBLIC RECORD.
FROM, UH, JOSEPH AND JUDY HOWELL.
WHO OWNED, UH, 1733 BACK CREEK ROAD, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL PASS IT DOWN.
BUT WHAT IT SAYS IS, UH, PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN USED FOR BOAT STORAGE, REPAIRS AND OTHER THINGS.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME, AS FAR AS WE KNEW, THE PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMMERCIAL.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GENERAL REPAIRS BEING DONE ON BOATS NEXT TO US.
THIS IS OF COURSE, UM, THE NORMAL CONSIDERATION FOR TIME AND NOISE ARE BEING OBSERVED.
NOW HAVE WE, DO WE DO ANYTHING WITH THE OTHER LETTER THAT WE'VE RECEIVED? NO.
NO, THAT WAS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
I'VE GOT EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE, BEFORE WE OKAY.
COULD, COULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP FOR A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS? OH, WOULD YOU MIND DOING THAT? THAT'LL BE OKAY WITH THAT.
ANYBODY OBJECT? CARL? TOO BAD.
AND I'M ALL FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE.
I'M, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROPERTY.
THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ALL DONE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
UM, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE, I'LL CALL IT THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THERE OR WHAT WOULD LIKE TO PUT THERE.
UM, IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE, OBVIOUSLY.
SO IS IT GOING, IS IT GONNA BE AN ELEVATED BUILDING? IS IT GONNA BE UP OUT OF THE FLOOD AREA? SO IS THAT GOING? NO, THERE'S, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO GET A BOAT INSIDE THEN IF IT WERE ELEVATED, RIGHT? NO, I DON'T MEAN ELEVATED OUT, BUT I MEAN, IS A GOOD, YOUR FOUNDATION'S GONNA BE FOUR OR FIVE FEET UP FROM WHAT GROUND LEVEL IS.
NOW MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS, IS IT GONNA CAUSE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING TO BE, TO WHAT HEIGHT ARE YOU LOOKING AT 'EM? IS THAT GONNA CREATE A, A, A BLOCKAGE OF WATER VIEWS FOR THE RESIDENTS IN, IN THAT AREA? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANY HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT HOUSES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON STILTS.
AND ACTUALLY IT'LL BE LOWER THAN, UH, THE NEWEST HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WAYNE HARNS.
IT'S GONNA, IT WON'T EVEN BE THAT HIGH.
AND IS THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE, THE LITTLE BLOCK HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW IS THAT THAT'S GONNA BE TORN DOWN? YES.
UM, AND I NOTICED THERE'S AN RV SITTING THERE NOW.
UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE FUEL TANKS? SO THE FUEL TANKS ARE ON 1742, THAT WAS PART OF THE MARINA.
WE HAD, THERE WERE IN-GROUND FUEL TANKS IN THERE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE MARINA, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS TO GET FUEL DISPENSING BACK TO THE MARINA.
AGAIN, IN REGARDS, I HAD TO REMOVE THE OLD TANKS AND IN EXCHANGE PUT ABOVE GROUND IN.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS APPLICATION DISCUSSION.
I THOUGHT I ASKED YOU THOUGH, THAT MEETING, NOW WE'LL OPEN THIS TO THE COMMISSIONER.
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UM, GO AHEAD, MADAM CHAIRMAN.I, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
I THINK IT SUPPORTS, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES IN YORK COUNTY THAT THE FACT THAT, UH, THE, UM, ALL THE MAINTENANCE WORK IS GOING TO BE INSIDE A BUILDING.
UM, SO IT WILL NOT BE OUT IN PLAIN VIEW RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS WORKED ON, ON BOATS, UH, CAN BE DONE IN THE MARINA AND SEEN OUT IN PLAIN VIEW.
SO I THINK THIS IS, UH, BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE MAINTENANCE INSIDE, UH, PROTECTED.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
MR. PRIME? I, I WOULD AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID, AND I, I ALSO SUPPORT IT.
CONCUR WITH MY TWO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST, UH, I WOULD'VE VOTED FOR YES FOR IT.
IF THE PROFFER HADN'T BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR I WOULD'VE VOTED FOR IT.
I SOMETIMES WONDER WHY PEOPLE PROFFER SO MANY THINGS LIKE THIS.
BUT ANYWAYS, FOR, I WOULDN'T MAKE ONE RECOMMENDATION ON THE OKAY.
ON THE PROP, ON THE CONDITIONS.
CONDITIONS, VOLUNTARY PROFFERED FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED.
ALL RIGHT, MR. HOLROYD? WELL, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF SMALL BUSINESS, AND I CERTAINLY, UH, WOULD AGREE WITH, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WHEN I SEE NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS AND I SEE, UH, FAILURE TO SUBMIT SITE PLANS, IT, IT SMACKS ME AS, UH, NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT ARE SET IN PLACE FOR WHEN WE APPROVE THIS.
UH, I WOULD WANT TO SEE THE APPLICANT, UH, CLEAN UP THAT PART OF HIS ACT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE HIM IN FRONT OF US AND, UH, AND HAVE VIOLATIONS.
THAT BEING SAID, I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT, UH, HE'S PROPOSED HERE.
I JUST, I THINK IT COMES WITH A MESSAGE.
MR. SMITH? I TOO, I MEAN, YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I'VE, I HAVE SEEN THE, THE LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FROM THE, UH, NEIGHBORS, AND I THINK WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT.
UH, I TOO AM IN SUPPORT OF THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, OBVIOUSLY SMALL BUSINESS, AND I, I AGREE.
I THINK THERE'S A, A MAJOR NEED, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA FOR A SMALL BOAT.
UM, LIKE YOU SAID, I'D RATHER SEE A FACILITY AVAILABLE TO DO THAT WORK THAN HAVING SOMEBODY DO IT IN THEIR BACKYARD OR OUT ON THE STREET.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE MORE ISSUES.
UH, SO I, I JOINED MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IN, IN SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION.
UH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT TAKE THEIR KIDS DOWN THERE, AND THEY DO ENJOY IT.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY TAKE THEIR BIKES AND THEY LOVE THE 4TH OF JULY AND ALL THAT.
SO IF WE CAN CLEAN UP THE PROFFERS AND MOVE ALONG, GREAT.
AND I WILL CALL, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, SUBMIT PC 23 DASH ONE FOR APPROVAL.
THE MOTION BY MR. SMITH IS TO ADOPT PC 23 DASH ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION TO AMEND PROFFERED CONDITIONS AT 1737 BACK CREEK ROAD.
UM, AND WHEN WILL THE APPLICATION GO TO THE BOARD? DO WE NEED TO DO THAT? TALK ABOUT THAT MR. CROSS? PARDON? DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THIS APPLICATION TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE BOARD? NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL THAT.
NO, WELL TAKE IT OFF YOUR LIST.
IT'S, I KNOW, UH, THAT IS, UH, UP TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, IF, IF IT PROCEEDED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UH, IF IT WENT ALONG THE NORMAL COURSE, UH, IT WOULD GO TO THE, UH, THE BOARD FEBRUARY 21ST.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IN THE HOPPER, COULD WE PUSH FORWARD THE, UH, THE, UH, HOME BASE BUSINESS CHANGES? WELL, THAT'S IN A PERMANENT HOPPER.
ACTION IS NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ACT ON THAT IN FEBRUARY, I CAN TELL YOU YET.
AND WE HAVE NO OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[7. Old Business]
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THAT COVERS OUR OLD BUSINESS.[8. New Business]
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.[9. Staff Reports/Recent Actions by the Board of Supervisors]
UH, DO WE HAVE SOME STAFF REPORTS? YES, MA'AM.DECEMBER 20TH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE, UH, JEANETTE BRADY APPLICATION, UH, ON EAST CHENBO.
THEY ALSO APPROVE THE SCOTT SHEER HOME BARBERSHOP OR BEAUTY SHOP APPLICATION ON VINE DRIVE.
AT THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK, JANUARY 17TH, THEY WILL CONSIDER THE ASHLEY ANDERSON TOURIST HOME APPLICATION ON WEST SIMPLE ROAD.
UH, ON Y'ALL'S, UH, FEBRUARY 8TH UPCOMING AGENDA.
THERE IS JUST ONE APPLICATION.
IT'S FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR CLIFFS AUTO.
UH, THE OWNER WANTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME ACCESSORY GOLF CART SALES ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN GENERAL BUSINESS.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY APPLICATION ON YOUR AGENDA YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT, AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE COMMISSION'S ANNUAL REPORT FOR FY 22.
WE ARE A LITTLE QUICKER GETTING IT OUT THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, I HOPE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UH, SATISFACTORY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, ON A BITTERSWEET NOTE, THIS MONTH WE SAY GOODBYE TO AMY PARKER.
WELL, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE 12.
THE LAST 21 HAPPILY WE'RE HERE IN YORK COUNTY WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION.
UM, SHE WILL BE RETIRING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO THIS IS, UNLESS YOU ALL DECIDE TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING, WHICH I DON'T RECOMMEND, THIS WILL BE HER LAST
UH, AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE HIRED AMY BACK IN 2002, UH, I MEAN, SHE WAS HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS.
OUR ONLY CONCERN WAS WHETHER OR NOT SHE WOULD ACCEPT THE POSITION.
UH, SHE WAS WORKING IN FAIRFAX AT THE TIME.
AND, UH, OF COURSE, THEIR PAY SCALES ARE HIGHER THAN OURS BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER COST OF LIVING.
SO, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I CALLED TO INVITE HER DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW, I TOLD HER UP FRONT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY THAT YORK COUNTY CAN MATCH
AND, UH, SHE SAID, NOW SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT, UH, SHE WANTED TO RELOCATE TO THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY.
AS I THINK YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW, AMY IS VERY BIG INTO HISTORY, AMERICAN HISTORY.
AND SO, UH, THAT WORKED OUT WELL FOR HER BECAUSE SHE WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, ALL SORTS OF, WELL, THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE, THE MUSEUM BOARD, ALL KINDS OF EVENTS.
THE JULY 4TH, UH, CELEBRATION IN NEW YORKTOWN, YORKTOWN DAY, GUEST SPEAKERS, UH, ALL KINDS OF HISTORICAL GROUPS THAT SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, BOTH AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND IN HER SPARE TIME ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, UH, AS WELL.
SO SHE'S REALLY THROWN HERSELF INTO THAT.
IT ALSO WORKED OUT WELL FOR US.
UH, WE GOT A FANTASTIC PLANNER IN THE BARGAIN.
WE'VE GOT 21 YEARS OUT OF HER, SOMEBODY WHO'S, UH, BEEN A REAL JOY, UH, TO WORK WITH.
SO, UH, I'M PRETTY SURE I CAN SPEAK FOR THE STAFF WHEN I SAY THAT.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WE WISH HER WELL, UH, AND, UH, IN, UH, THE NEXT CHAPTER OF HER LIFE.
ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
[10. Committee Reports]
REPORTS, COMMISSIONER BOARD.UH, THAT WOULD BE ME, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION ON OUR LAND USE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE CHAPTER, UH, OVER TWO MEETINGS.
UM, WE BROKE IT IN, BROKE IT IN HALF CUZ OF THE, UH, UM, BOTH THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHAPTER AS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, IT'S THE MEAT, MEAT, POTATOES OF A COMP PLAN.
SO, UM, STAFF DID A A GREAT JOB IN INCORPORATING THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER THAT WE WISH TO BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, COUPLE OF 'EM OF NOTE, ONE WOULD BE TO, UM, TO PUT IN A PLAN THAT, UH, UM, THE COUNTY WOULD, UM, SOLICIT SOMEONE TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR THE LIGHTFOOT AREA.
AND THAT'S A CRITICAL, UM, UH, PIECE TO IT.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE IN UPPER COUNTY WERE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT INTO PLAN.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS.
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UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, STAYS INTACT.SO MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HADN'T CHANGED REALLY.
SOME OF THE CHANGES WERE MINOR TO REFLECT, UH, UH, REZONINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE REALLY SMALL.
UH, UM, WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS, OTHER CHAPTERS, UH, IN THE ENVIRONMENT CHAPTER.
IS THAT CORRECT, TIM? COMING UP? GARMENT LAST ONE? YES.
AND SO THAT'LL BE OUR LAST CHAPTER TO REVIEW.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO ONLINE, LOOK AT, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE DRAFT CHAPTER, SEE IF YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THERE.
AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, LET MYSELF OR STAFF KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS, UH, ON THE CHAPTER.
SO, UM, DOUG WAS IN ATTENDANCE AS A CITIZEN.
UH, DOUG, I'LL GIVE YOU A, UH, ONE MINUTE IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN.
MR. KING ALWAYS GIVES ME ONE MINUTE AT THE CITIZEN END OF THE, OF THE MEETING STATE.
I GIVE YOU MORE TIME THAN THAT.
UM, I THINK, UH, THE ONLY OTHER SIGNIFICANT POINT WAS ECONOMIC OVERLAY WAS REMOVED FROM A NUMBER OF AREAS.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE CONSIDERED IT STILL TO BE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND I, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE AREAS WHERE IT WAS DEBATABLE IN THE PAST, UH, WE'VE REMOVED THAT IT DOESN'T STOP A DEVELOPER FROM COMING FORWARD AND REQUESTING IT.
UH, IT'S STILL ALLOWED WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE, UH, ZONING LAWS.
UM, BUT WE WEREN'T, UH, WE WEREN'T INCLUDING IT IN THIS VERSION OF THE COMP PLAN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD REVIEW.
UH, THERE WAS A FEW CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT CAME UP, UH, BUT, UH, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH CAPTURED THE ESSENCE.
AND UH, SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO ONLINE, LOOK AT THE CHAPTER, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU HAVE THEM LOOK IT OVER AND, AND LET ME OR THE STAFF KNOW.
[11. Commission Reports and Requests]
REPORTS.WE'RE ALL DONE, RIGHT? ANY REQUEST SWING THE GAVEL WISH.