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[Call to Order]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THE JULY 19TH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT CONCERNING MR.
NOW MR.
WE HAVE REVEREND DAVID MAGRUDER FROM ZION UNITED METHODIST CHURCH TO GIVE THE IMPLICATION, DAVID, THANK YOU.
AND MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD, I'M ASKING FOR A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE AFTER THE INVOCATION TO EXPRESS SOME GRATITUDE TO THE BOARD AND TO THE COUNTY AFTER THE VOCATION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, LET US PRAY.
DEAR ALMIGHTY AND MERCIFUL GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU NOW AS A PEOPLE OF ONE GEOGRAPHIC COMMUNITY, ONE THAT REPRESENTS DIVERSITY WITH DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS, DIFFERING IDEAS, AND DIFFERING OPINIONS ON ALL MATTERS.
IF THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCES IN LIFE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE MIDST OF OUR DIVERSITY, IN THE MIDST OF THE DIFFERENCES WE HAVE, WE CAN FIND CALMNESS IN A RESOLUTION THAT IS TRULY DIVINE, WHICH DEMONSTRATES YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR WORK IN OUR LIVES.
AND FOR THAT, WE GIVE YOU THANKS.
AND I PRAY LORD THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND OUR ADMINISTRATION, AND ALL WHO ARE PART OF YOUR COUNTY AND THEIR DECISION AND IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS, IT IS THE DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO ARE THE LEADERS AND WHO WALK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL THEIR PAIN AND SHARE THEIR JOYS, WHO DREAM THEIR DREAMS AND STRIVE TO ACCOMPANY THEM IN THEIR COMMON GOAL FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEIR WILLINGNESS, WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN, TO LEAD AND TO SERVE.
AND I PRAY NOW, LORD, THAT YOU WILL EMBOLDEN THESE LEADERS WITH YOUR SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND OF GRACE CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THEM AND THEIR LEADERSHIP GUIDE THEM IN THEIR DIALOGUE AND OFFER THEM UNDERSTANDING IN THEIR HEARTS.
I SAY, COME TO DECISIONS IN THEIR DISCOURSE FOR THIS GATHERING AND FOR THE FUTURE, THIS WE PRAY IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
I'M IN, I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU REPRESENTING ZION UNITED METHODIST CHURCH TO THANK YOU AS THE BOARD AND TO THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE COUNTY FOR YOUR SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
UH, LAST WEEK AT CHURCH, WE HAD OUR VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL AND WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE SOME OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SIT ON THE PROPERTY OF THE CHURCH BECAUSE OUR VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL THEME WAS CONCRETE AND CRANES.
SO HEAVY CONSTRUCTION ITEMS AND EQUIPMENT WAS SUCH A NICE ADDITION TO OUR VBS AND THE KIDS OF ALL AGES ENJOYED ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS OUT THERE.
SO I THANK THE COUNTY FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND FOR YOUR SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND COOPERATION.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH UNDER THE COUNTY ALWAYS LIKES TO BE INVOLVED IF THEY CAN BE, ESPECIALLY, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THEY DID A TREMENDOUS JOB, SO THANK YOU.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, STANDING FACE TO FLY
[A York County Public Library Update. Receive an update from Kevin Smith, Director of Library Services and staff.]
WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.I AM SURE WE'RE ALL WAITING TO HEAR.
AND WE HAVE KEVIN SMITH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU AND IN THE SPIRIT OF A FORMER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND GLAD TO BE, BE SEEN, BE BRIEF AND BE GONE.
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SO MY PLAN TONIGHT IS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF, UM, LIBRARY SERVICES.AND THEN I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE, UH, MICHELLE PAXTON, OUR YOUTH SERVICES LIBRARIAN AND ELIZABETH LAND, OUR YORKTOWN BRANCH MANAGER, TO TALK MORE ABOUT LIBRARY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE YORKTOWN CONSTRUCTION.
SO I, HERE WE GO FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO, UM, IN TALKING TO MY OTHER FELLOW LIBRARY DIRECTORS, UM, THE PANDEMIC HAS BEEN A REBOOT.
WE KIND OF A RESET TO LIBRARY PROGRAMS TO ZERO.
AND THIS PICTURE I THINK IS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR.
AND ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN LINE TO GO TO COME INTO A LAB INTO THE LIBRARY FOR LIBRARY PROGRAM.
SO MY KEY POINT THERE IS BRINGING BACK THE PATRONS, THE PATRONS HAVE BEEN WANTING TO COME BACK TO THE LIBRARY.
UM, AND ONE OF MY CHARGES FOR THE STAFF WAS WE NEED TO HAVE MORE IN-PERSON PROGRAMS THIS YEAR.
WE HAD MORE ADULT PROGRAMS, MORE TEEN PROGRAMS AND MORE CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS, ALL IN PERSON.
AND THAT PICTURE IS, IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE FLOCKING TO THE LIBRARY.
UM, WE MOVED, WE CLOSED IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
WE CLOSED THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY TO BEGIN TO CONSTRUCTION FOR THE EXPANSION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND WE MOVED EVERYTHING FROM THAT LIBRARY INTO THE GRAFT AND ANNEX GRAFTON ANNEX THAT WE ALL KNOW IS AN OLD FIRE STATION.
SO I WAS JUST IMPRESSED WITH THE STAFF, THE MOVING COMPANY THAT WAS ABLE TO MOVE OVER 30,000 ITEMS FROM THAT LIBRARY TO THE FIRE STATION.
AND WE'VE BEEN USING THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN VERY GRATEFUL THAT THAT WE'VE ABLE TO HAVE THE ANNEX OPEN.
SO THEY'VE GOT A LIBRARY MID COUNTY TO GO TO, UH, CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN JUNE, IT'S CONTINUING, AND ELIZABETH WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
AND WE HAD A REBOOT OF OUR OUTREACH PROGRAM.
AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
AND THAT'S TAKING THE LIBRARY OUTSIDE OF THE WALLS OF THE LIBRARY AND GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY TO RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, THE NURSING HOMES.
AND WE WERE SHUT OUT OF THAT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND FINALLY, WE WERE ABLE TO REBOOT THAT.
SO, UM, VERY QUICKLY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS OF, UM, SOME STATISTICS HERE.
SO, UH, WITH THE REBOOT, UM, WE HAD A 20% INCREASE IN, UH, CHECKOUTS.
SO FROM LAST YEAR, OUR, UM, PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING, UH, FOR PROGRAMS, OUR PROGRAMS, WHERE WE HAD A 70% INCREASE IN IN-PERSON PROGRAMS, OUR PROGRAM ATTENDANCE, WE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
OF COURSE, THAT WAS PANDEMIC RELATED AND VISITORS, EVEN THOUGH THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY WAS CLOSED, WE HAD A 28% INCREASE IN PEOPLE COMING TO THE LIBRARY, CHECKING OUT BOOKS STUDYING.
AND ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, WE NOT ONLY HAVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN COMING TO THE LIBRARY, WE HAVE ADULT LEARNERS COMING TO THE LIBRARY.
I SEE MORE AND MORE GRADUATE PROFESSIONALS.
UM, LATELY I'VE BEEN SEEING MEDICAL STUDENTS USING OUR LIBRARY AND WITH THE NEW TELEWORK MODEL, I SEE A LOT OF ADULTS THAT ARE LEAVING THEIR HOUSE AND COMING TO THE LIBRARY TO DO THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK.
THEY'RE SETTING UP THEIR LAPTOP AT A CUBICLE, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TELL THE WORK FROM THE LIBRARY JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT BOTH PARENTS WORKING AT HOME WITH THE KIDS AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LEAVE THE HOUSE JUST TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.
SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE USING LIBRARY.
I KEEP, I ASKED THE QUESTION ALL THE TIME WITH EBOOKS.
DO PEOPLE CHECK OUT BOOKS? THIS GRAPH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT 70% OF OUR CIRCULATION IS STILL PRINT BOOKS AND EBOOKS ARE STEADY, BUT THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT 30% OF OUR CIRCULATION.
AND I THINK WHAT THAT'S FROM IS WE'RE INUNDATED WITH DIGITAL MEDIA, FROM OUR PHONES TO OUR TABLETS, TO OUR COMPUTERS.
AND WHEN PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO READ SOMETHING, THEY WANT REAL BOOKS.
SO THIS, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TREND LINE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PANDEMIC THINGS DIP, BUT NOW THINGS ARE COMING UP AGAIN.
AND THEN I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION OUR SISTER LIBRARY UP IN DISTRICT ONE, THE WILLIAMSBURG LIBRARY.
SO THESE ARE SOME STATISTICAL HIGHLIGHTS THERE.
UM, AND THE HIGHLIGHT OF THAT FACILITY WAS THERE.
JAMES CITY LIBRARY IS AN UNDER UTILIZED OR HAS BEEN NOT AS USED AS THEIR DOWNTOWN BRANCH.
SO THEY WANT IT, THEY RE DID THE INTERIOR OF THAT BUILDING WITH THE HELP OF THEIR WILLIAMSBURG KAWANA'S CLUB, GAVE THEM A GRANT AND THEY SET UP THIS KID'S IDEA, THIS CHILDREN'S STUDIO TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO THE JAMES CITY LIBRARY AND USE THAT.
SO THAT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR FOR OUR
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LIBRARY FOR OUR PARTNER LIBRARY.AND I'M GOING TO PASS IT ONTO MICHELLE PAXTON, OUR YOUTH SERVICES LIBRARIAN.
IT'S REALLY JUST THE SECOND QUESTION, RIGHT? REAL QUICK QUESTION.
MR. SMITH, A LOT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT LOCAL HISTORY AND LOCAL HISTORY SECTIONS.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST BRIEFLY COMMENT ON THE LOCAL HISTORY, UH, SECTION IN THE NEW LIBRARY, OR I SHOULD SAY THE RENOVATED.
SO, UM, PEOP THE LOCAL HISTORY COLLECTION HAS BEEN AT THE TAB LIBRARY AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING THAT AND IT WAS KIND OF MADE NONE OF THAT TODAY.
I SAW RESEARCHERS THERE YESTERDAY, UM, USING OUR GENEALOGY MATERIALS WHEN WE OPENED THE LIBRARY, THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, THAT COLLECTION WILL BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY.
IT WILL NOT BE HOUSED IN THE CLOSET THAT IT ONCE WAS, IT WILL BE, THERE WILL STILL BE A MEETING ROOM STUDY ROOM THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO DO RESEARCH, BUT THE COLLECTION WILL BE OUT IN THE LIBRARY AND VISIBLE.
SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HAVE IT.
SO, BUT IT WILL BE RELOCATED BACK TO ITS HOME LIBRARY.
STEPHEN HAD A QUESTION SMITH, THE NUMBERS YOU SHARE REAL BRIEFLY ON THE WAYNESBURG LIBRARY, THEY WERE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.
WHERE IS THAT TOTAL OF ALL PATRONS OR IS THAT JUST THAT YOUR COUNTY THAT'S TOTAL OF ALL OF THEM STILL.
THEY DO A LOT OF BUSINESS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE, THEY'VE GOT THREE LOCALITIES IN THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY.
YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS WITH LIBRARY PARKS THERE.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR KEVIN? OH, I KNOW.
I WAS GLAD THAT MR. SMITH BROUGHT UP THE, THE, UH, WILLIAMSBURG LIBRARY AND THE CITIZENS OF THE UPPER COUNTY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME COME AND SHARE WITH YOU ALL ABOUT OUR YOUTH SERVICES PROGRAM AND ALL THE EXCITING THINGS.
I COULD TALK A LONG TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO REALLY KEEP THIS CONDENSED FOR YOU, BUT OUR YOUTH SERVICES PROGRAM SERVES INFANTS THROUGH TEENS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
SO IT'S A VERY BROAD AUDIENCE.
UM, WE PROVIDE A LOT OF PROGRAMMING, PROMOTING LITERACY, UM, LIFETIME LEARNING AND JUST RESOURCES WITHIN THE LIBRARY, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY HAVE TRUE IN PERSON PROGRAMMING.
WE TRANSITIONED FROM VIRTUAL TO DOING IT OUTDOORS, TO LIMITED INDOORS, AND NOW WE ARE IN THE FULL SWING OF THINGS.
SO AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND EXCELLENT ATTENDANCE.
THIS IS CERTAINLY MUCH HIGHER THAN IT WAS DURING THE COVID YEARS.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THE KIDS AND THE TEENS AND THEIR FAMILIES COMING BACK TO THE LIBRARY AND USING IT.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED A VERY STRONG TEEN PROGRAM.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TEENAGERS CONTRIBUTED 371 HOURS TO THE LIBRARY THIS PAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME PICTURES.
YOU KNOW, EVERY LIBRARY HAS TO HAVE STORY TIME.
AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT STORY TIMES.
YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE FUN THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
WE HAVE OUR THOUSAND BOOKS BEFORE KINDERGARTEN, WHICH HAS TAKEN OFF.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF STEAM PROGRAMS, SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, ARTS, AND MATHEMATICS, INCLUDING CODING OUR SCIENCE, SATURDAYS, OUR ART PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD FROM PRESCHOOL ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR TEEN GROUPS.
SO HERE'S A FEW OTHER PICTURES.
UM, WE ARE EXCITED FOR SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE JUST STARTED THIS PAST YEAR.
UH, ONE WAS OUR PAUSE TO RATE PROGRAM, WHICH USES CERTIFIED THERAPY DOGS TO COME INTO THE LIBRARY AND CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO STRUGGLE TO READ, FEEL VERY PUT UPON OR STRESS SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY FEEL THESE EXPECTATIONS AND PRESSURES, BUT READ INTO A DOG THAT DOG DOESN'T CARE.
AND THAT PROGRAM IS MAXED OUT EVERY TIME WE OFFER IT.
AND YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF A LITTLE GIRL THERE WITH THE DOG.
UH, WE ALSO STARTED A PRESCHOOL CODING PROGRAM THAT IS SCREEN-FREE AND KIND OF GETTING KIDS INTERESTED IN LEARNING SOME OF THE BASICS WITH HOW THAT TRANSLATES INTO REGULAR LIFE.
AND THEN OUR HOMESCHOOL PROGRAM HAS REVIVED AND THAT MEETS MONTHLY.
WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY GROUP AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL GROUP, AND OUR NUMBERS ARE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THAN FROM PRE COVID.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THEM COMING IN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SPECIAL PROGRAMS. I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW.
ONE WAS WITH FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.
THEY CAME DURING FIRE PREVENTION WEEK AND DID A STORY TIME.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT ONE WAS OUTDOORS IS STILL WEARING OUR MASS.
AND THEN WE HAD OUR TEENY TINY FARM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT.
WE HAD AN ATTENDANCE OF ALMOST 900 PEOPLE AND IT WAS, UM, IT WAS EXCITING,
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PUT ANIMALS AND KIDS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER.WE ALSO, UM, HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH THE BATTLE OF THE BOOKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY, UM, YORK COUNTY ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS, UM, NEWPORT NEWS AND THE COAST AND SCHOOLS AS WELL THIS YEAR TO CELEBRATE CHILDREN'S BOOK WEEK, WE HOSTED A CHILDREN'S AND TEENS BOOK FESTIVAL, AND WE HAD 24 LOCAL AUTHORS AND OR ILLUSTRATORS COME TO THE LIBRARY AND THEY EACH HAD A TABLE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR BOOKS, TO SELL THEIR BOOKS.
WE HAD OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS WHILE THEY WERE THERE.
AND WE HAD ABOUT 300 PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE FESTIVAL.
WE DO HIGHLY VALUE, TAKEN THE LIBRARY OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARY WALLS.
AND SO WE GO TO HEADSTART AT BETHEL MANOR, GRIFFIN YATES, AND YORKTOWN.
WE HAVE GONE TO THE SCHOOLS FOR BATTLE OF THE BOOKS, ESL NIGHT, FAMILY NIGHT, KINDERGARTEN REGISTRATION.
WE WENT TO BUG FEST, THAT'S ON THE LEFT.
UM, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT I JUST HAVEN'T MENTIONED.
SO NOW, NOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER READING PROGRAM.
THIS IS THE MEAT OF THE CHILDREN'S DEPARTMENT.
AND THIS KICKED OFF ON JUNE 28TH.
WE HAD AN OUTDOOR PROGRAM TRYING TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND ALSO GETTING THEM SIGNED UP FOR SUMMER READING.
SO WE HAD ABOUT 500 PEOPLE WHO CAME TO OUR KICKOFF AT THE END OF JUNE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE NUMBERS ARE AS OF LAST FRIDAY OF HOW MANY ARE REGISTERED THAT 937 BREAKS DOWN TO 281 ADULTS AND 656 PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
SO OUR INFANTS THROUGH OUR TEENS, THE, THE SRP IS OPEN TO ALL AGES, INFANTS THROUGH ADULTS.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SIGN UP.
UH, AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF OF OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM, WE OFFER 23 PROGRAMS AND HAD 866 PEOPLE ATTENDING.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS HERE THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON AND OUR TEEN PROGRAMS, UH, WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE GROUP THIS SUMMER.
WE HAVE 30 TEENAGERS VOLUNTEERING AT THE LIBRARY AND THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING FIVE DAYS A WEEK, PLUS OUR SPECIAL KICKOFF AND OUR FINALE.
AND HERE'S ONE OF THEM THEY'RE DECORATING THE CHILDREN'S AREA, TRYING TO GET IT READY FOR SUMMER READING.
WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH PARKS AND REC AND HAVE DONE SAFETY TOWN WITH FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY ALSO, AND SUMMER FUN WITH PARKS AND REC.
UM, SO RECENTLY LAST WEEK WE, THE VIRGINIA LIVING MUSEUM COME AND DO SHELLS BY THE SEASHORE AND WE HAD 160 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.
SO YOU MIGHT ASK WHAT ELSE IS COMING UP? GOOD QUESTION.
SO THIS FRIDAY WE HAVE THE MARINER'S MUSEUM COMING AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING A STEM PROGRAM ABOUT ENGINEERING AND MAKING LIGHTHOUSES AND TESTING THEM AGAINST THE ELEMENTS.
AND SO THAT'LL BE ON FRIDAY FOCUS FOR GRADES FOUR THROUGH NINE, BUT THEIR SIBLINGS CAN COME AND KIND OF WORK TOGETHER.
OUR FINALE FOR OUR PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 13TH, 10:00 AM TO NOON.
UH, THE FORT EUSTIS TREY DOC BAND WILL BE THERE.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS, WE'LL HAVE THE BARRELS OF FUN CRAFTS GAMES AND PRIZE PICKUPS FOR SUMMER READING.
OUR MAIN FOCUS IS LET'S CELEBRATE READING.
LET'S CELEBRATE OUR SUMMER, LET'S CELEBRATE THE LIBRARY AND JUST GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.
AND THEN WE COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IN THE SUMMER WITHOUT SOMETHING SPECIAL.
SO THIS IS SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE OF OUR SUMMER READING TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE VIRGINIA AQUARIUM AND MARINE CENTER COME AUGUST 26, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A PROGRAM FOR US CALLED AMAZING ADAPTATIONS.
SO BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH, I WANT TO SHARE ABOUT A SPECIAL COLLECTION THAT WE JUST RECEIVED BACK IN JUNE CALLED VOX BOOKS.
AND THESE ARE PROVIDED BY THE LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA.
THEY ARE SELF-CONTAINED BILINGUAL READ ALONGS.
SOME ARE STRICTLY SPANISH, SOME ARE SPANISH ENGLISH, AND SOME ARE MANDARIN CHINESE ENGLISH.
WE HAVE NOTICED AN INCREASE IN BILINGUAL PATRONS AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR MATERIALS IN THEIR LANGUAGE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR MATERIALS TO LEARN ENGLISH.
SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS COLLECTION.
AS YOU NOTICE ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BUTTONS ARE.
THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT THIS IS IT REQUIRES NO WIFI, NO INTERNET, NO BATTERIES AND NO CDS, AND YOU CAN HIT PLAY AND LISTEN TO IT.
SO A GROUP CAN LISTEN TO IT, OR YOU COULD PLUG IN YOUR HEADPHONES AND LISTEN TO IT YOURSELF.
AND IT DOES THE OLD FASHIONED KIND OF DING TIME TO TURN THE PAGE.
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FUN.WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO PLAN FOR THE FALL AND WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY TO SEE AND HEAR THE BUSTLE OF THE LITTLE ONES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TEENS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THE LIBRARY.
SO BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH, I DIDN'T KNOW ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTION? ALL I CAN SAY IS IT LOOKS LIKE THE LIBRARY IS JUMPING.
IT IS ALIVE AND WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PROGRAMMING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN.
I'M ELIZABETH LAND, I'M THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY BRANCH MANAGER.
AND I'M GOING TO START OFF TALKING ABOUT OUTREACH SERVICES BECAUSE IT AN IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT WE OFFER TO OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AS KEVIN SAID, IT'S A MATTER OF BRINGING SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO THE LIBRARY.
UH, SO ONE OF OUR FOCUSES IS GOING TO SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES.
WE NOW SERVE SIX FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, INCLUDING IN THE UPPER YORK COUNTY AREA DISTRICT ONE FACILITIES ARE INCLUDED.
UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS, UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY A JOY TO GET BACK INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY DO REALLY VALUE, NOT ONLY BEING ABLE TO CHECK OUT BOOKS, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO BE SERVED BY OUR WONDERFUL OUTREACH SERVICES TEAM.
UH, IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE FACILITIES.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO WITH OUTREACHES, WE DO PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO, WE LEARNED FROM BOTH OUR SENIOR FACILITIES, BUT ALSO FROM SENIORS, JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WHAT THEY LEARNED IN COVID IS THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO USE ALL OF THESE DEVICES TO ACCESS IMPORTANT SERVICES, THEY ALSO NEEDED THEM TO ACCESS FUND SERVICES LIKE READING AND NOT EVERYBODY WAS AS COMFORTABLE AS SOME OF US ARE.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS REALLY MAKE SURE WE COULD BRIDGE THAT GAP FOR OUR SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE APPLIED FOR A, IN AN LM GRANT AND IT ENABLED US TO PURCHASE DEVICES AND CREATE TECHNOLOGY CLASSES.
WE STARTED IN THE LIBRARY, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS PICTURE, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY CREATED SENIOR CENTER PARTNERSHIPS.
SO NOW WE DO TECH TUESDAYS ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, WE DO ONE-ON-ONE, UH, APPOINTMENTS WITH OUR SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU JUST CALL THEM UP AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, AND WE'LL BE THERE THE FIRST TUESDAY TO HELP YOU.
AND SO FAR WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE ALSO GONE TO SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES AND HAD THIS CLASS, BUT DURING THE TIME WE'VE HAD IT SINCE WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE APRIL, UM, WE'VE SERVED 112 SENIORS WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BECOME MORE CONFIDENT WITH THEIR DEVICES AND THAT'S EVERYTHING, IT'S PHONES, TABLETS, UH, KENDALL'S EVEN LAPTOPS.
WE'VE HELPED THEM WITH LIKE ANYTHING THEY NEED.
UM, AND THIS PROGRAM ALSO WON A 2022, UH, NEKO AWARD.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE, UM, BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS PROGRAM AND HAVE IT RECOGNIZED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
RIGHT? SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UH, THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY UPDATE, WHICH IS MY KIND OF MAIN FOCUS RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT KEVIN SAID.
THIS IS THE INSIDE OF THE GRAFTON ANNEX.
UM, THIS IS THE BROWSING ROOM THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS.
UH, WE HAVE BOOKS, DVDS, AUDIO BOOKS.
WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS FOR AGES BIRTH THROUGH ADULTS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S JUST A PORTION OF OUR COLLECTION.
THE REST OF IT IS OUT IN THE GARAGE THAT USED TO HALS THE FIRE FIRE TRUCKS.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE CAN SORT OF SAFELY HAVE THE PUBLIC COME IN, BUT WE ALSO, UM, OFFER CURBSIDE AS WELL.
SO IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET INTO THE BUILDING, WE WILL BRING THE BOOKS OUT TO THEM.
WE ALSO DO, UH, PASSIVE PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN GET ACTIVITY KITS.
IF THAT CA IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT TO TAB, UH, THEY CAN COME TO OUR LIBRARY AND WE'LL GIVE THEM, UM, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE CRAFTS, WE'VE DONE A COOKING, LIKE HOW TO LEARN, HOW TO COOK, LIKE OATMEAL COOKIES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE'VE DONE A VARIETY OF WAYS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT CAN'T MAKE IT TO TABB ARE STILL GETTING LIBRARY SERVICES.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE GET NOW IS WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT BEHIND THE GRAFTON ANTICS, WALKING INTO THIS LIBRARY AND USING IT.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT TO SEE, UM, SORT OF THE NEW PEOPLE THAT MAYBE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT UP TO YORKTOWN OR DOWN TO TAB DISCOVERING THE LIBRARY AND ENJOYING IT.
SO I JUST MOVING TO YORKTOWN LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY, JUST TO REMINDER, THIS IS WHAT OUR NEW BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.
THAT IS THE ARCHITECT'S RENDERING.
UH, AND THIS IS THE BUILDING PLAN.
IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, TINY WORDS, BUT IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE RENOVATING THE ORIGINAL HALF OF THE BUILDING, WE ARE ADDING ON THAT EXTRA, YOU KNOW, 10,000 SQUARE FEET BASICALLY TO PROVIDE AND EXPAND SERVICES.
SO, UM, JUST TO REFRESH WHAT'S NEW, WE'RE MAINLY FOCUSING ON PROVIDING A NUMBER OF THINGS.
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STUDY AND MEETING SPACES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THE LIBRARY IS NOT ONLY A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET BOOKS AND LEARN NEW THINGS AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH YOUR FELLOW PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO PROVIDE WITH THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY WAS NEW STUDY AND MEETING SPACES.
SO WE'RE HAVING THREE SMALL STUDY ROOMS THAT FIT UP TO TWO PEOPLE, EACH TO LARGER KIND OF GROUP ROOMS THAT CAN FIT ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE.
AND THEN A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
AND THEN A LARGE MEETING ROOM THAT CAN ALSO BE SPLIT IN HALF IF WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SMALLER ROOMS FOR MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO USE.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, ALL OF THOSE SPACES ARE HAVING TECHNOLOGY INSTALLED IN THEM THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO NOT ONLY PROVIDE PRESENTATIONS OR WATCH MOVIES OR WHATEVER YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO, BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO THINGS LIKE ZOOM INTERVIEWS, WHICH WE'VE HAD PEOPLE NEEDING TO GET ON ZOOM AND HAVE LIKE A JOB INTERVIEW OR SOMETHING.
AND THIS PROVIDES A SPACE FOR THAT, BUT ALSO PROVIDES THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT HOME, WE CAN PROVIDE IT FOR YOU.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS THE ADULT READING ROOM THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF A QUIET SPACE FOR ANYONE REALLY, BUT MOSTLY ADULTS TO READ.
UM, AND THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WE ALSO ARE ADDING A CHILDREN'S WING AND A TEEN ROOM, AND THEN WE ARE ADDING A LEARNING GARDEN, WHICH WILL YOU CAN ACCESS FROM THE CHILDREN'S WING.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE RENOVATING THE OLD MEETING ROOM INTO A MAKER SPACE.
SO THAT'S PARTIALLY 3D PRINTERS, LASER CUTTERS, BUT IT'S ALSO ALLOWING TECHNOLOGY TRAINING SPACE AND IT'S VERY CUSTOMIZABLE.
SO IF WE WANT TABLES AND LAPTOPS OUT TO LEARN, UH, DO A TECHNOLOGY TRAINING CLASS, WE CAN, IF WE WANT TO PULL ALL THAT OUT AND DO OUR PRESCHOOL CODING CLASS OR ONE OF THE OTHER CLASSES THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF SPACE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
SO OUR FOCUS IN THE NEW LIBRARY AND ACROSS THE BOARD WILL BE ON STEM AND CULTURAL PROGRAMMING FOR ALL AGES.
SO THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE IS ONE OF OUR OUTREACH SERVICES, PEOPLE WITH OUR GLOWFORGE, WHICH IS THE LASER CUTTER.
AND IT IS ONE OF THE MACHINES THAT WILL BE IN THE MAKERSPACE AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING PROGRAMMING INVOLVING THAT.
AND THEN ANOTHER FOCUS FOR ME IS TO CONTINUE PARTNERING WITH OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, MOSQUITO CONTROL FOR BUG FEST, BUT WE, WE PARTNER WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING MASTER GARDENERS, FOR EXAMPLE, MIGHT HELP US WITH THE LEARNING GARDEN.
UM, THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE MIGHT HELP US WITH LOCAL HISTORY THINGS.
SO THAT IS A FOCUS OF OUR PROGRAMS IN THE NEW LIBRARY.
AND THEN, UM, A LOT OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS VIEW ON YOUR WAY DOWN 17.
UH, THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS.
SO OBVIOUSLY ON THE LEFT, UM, THAT'S, THE CHILDREN'S ROOM IS THE LARGE, LIKE KIND OF LONG PART OF THAT BUILDING.
AND THEN THE PEAK SPOT, A ROOF AREA IS THE READING ROOM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT'S OUR ENTRANCE AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, THAT'S A CLOSED OFF ROOM.
THERE'S NO WAY TO EXIT OUT OF THAT ROOM.
YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER AND YOU GET TO THE PUBLIC ENTRANCE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT.
AND THEN WE ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, THIS IS THE INTERIOR OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
IF YOU WERE STANDING IN THE ORIGINAL BUILDINGS, CHILDREN'S, WE ARE CHILDREN'S SPACE.
I GUESS THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.
AND THIS IS WHERE I WAS STANDING.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, LITERALLY EVERYTHING HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE WE HAD TO REDO EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S A LOT OF THE WORK THAT YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE WAS HAPPENING IN THIS SPACE, AND IT'S STILL HAPPENING IN THIS SPACE.
SO WHILE PROGRESS SOMETIMES LOOKS STALLED, IT'S NEVER, NEVER IS.
IT'S ALWAYS DOING WORK INSIDE AND REALLY THERE'S A LOT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
SO I THINK THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND THEN OUR FEARLESS LEADER, KEVIN SMITH IS IN THE FUTURE MAKERSPACE.
IF ANYONE'S BEEN IN THE OLD MEETING ROOM, THEY MIGHT RECOGNIZE THE DOORS FROM THE MEETING ROOM THAT WE'RE IN A STORAGE CLOSET, BUT THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE MAKER SPACE.
AND THEN THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE, WE'RE FITTING IN, UM, NEW STUDY ROOMS. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUST A CORNER THAT USED TO HAVE STUDY CAROLS.
AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENCLOSED ROOM, WHICH WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVATE AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GATHER TOGETHER.
THIS IS ALL FROM THE NEW PART OF THE BUILDING.
UH, SO ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IN THE LOBBY, WE WERE PRESERVING THE EXTERIOR OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
UH, SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THE HISTORIC OR STORICO WHERE WE WERE, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE COME FROM.
UH, IF YOU COME IN THAT ENTRANCE, THE, ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE VIEW OF THE FUTURE LOBBY.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, KEVIN, AND THEN SOME OF OUR WORKERS, UM, AT THE TIME THEY WERE STILL DOING HVAC AND ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT'S MOSTLY DONE.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY PROGRESSING.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE FUTURE TEAM ROOM RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT, AND THEN THAT'S THE CHILDREN'S WING ON THE RIGHT.
SO THE OTHER MAIN THING BEFORE ANYONE ASKS THAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS, I'VE BEEN TOLD, I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT AS LONG AS ALL THE DOMINOES FALL, THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO FALL, WE HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO START MOVING FURNITURE AND TECHNOLOGY AND BOOKS BACK INTO THE BUILDING IN OCTOBER FOR SOME
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KIND OF OPENING IN NOVEMBER.THAT IS THE LATEST UPDATE I HAVE IN TERMS OF TIMING.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AH, LET ME SEE, MRS. ROOMBA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO ONE WAS VERY THOROUGH, A BRIEFING, AND I THINK THAT YOUNG LADY, UH, WELL, WHAT SHE'S DOING FOR THE CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTY.
THANK YOU, MR.
REAL QUICK, VERY INTERESTED IN THE MAKER-SPACE PLANS.
SO WHENEVER YOU HAVE SOME DETAILS TO SHARE ABOUT THAT, UM, I'M ALL EARS, SO SURE.
I MEAN, I DO KNOW WE'VE PURCHASED SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY, SO WE HAVE A GLOWFORGE WE ALSO HAVE A CRICKET, WHICH IS A SORT OF A PAPER CUTTER.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE TWO 3D PRINTERS THAT WE'LL BE GOING IN THERE.
ONE, WHICH IS A MAKERBOT REPLICATOR PLUS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
UM, AND A LITTLE BIT HARDIER, I GUESS IT CAN DO MORE COMPLEX THINGS.
UM, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, OR NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SMALLER ONE IS THE REPLICATOR.
PLUS THE METHOD X IS THE BIGGER ONE THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE GETTING BOTH OF THOSE IN THAT BUILDING.
UH, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO, UH, GOING TO DO A, HAVE A SEWING MACHINE IN THERE AS WELL.
SO IT'S ALL KINDS OF MAKING, IT'S NOT JUST TECHNOLOGY AND NOT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO SEWING MACHINES.
SO WE'LL AT LEAST HAVE ONE IN THERE THAT PEOPLE CAN BRING SOME PROJECTS WITH.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE MEMORY LANE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HOSTING AT THE TAB LIBRARY, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO CONVERT VHS TAPES TO DIGITAL SO THAT YOU CAN SAVE THOSE TAPES.
UM, WE ARE HOPING TO REPLICATE THAT PROGRAM AT YORKTOWN SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO TO YORKTOWN DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO TAB TO REPLICATE THAT PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S BEEN A REALLY POPULAR PROGRAM TOO.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU TO DIGITIZE YOUR, YOUR, UH, VHS TAPES.
SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE PROGRAMS YOU HAVE PLANNED TO GO AROUND THE TECHNOLOGY.
YEAH, SO WE, WE HAVE SOME OLDER PROGRAMS THAT WILL PROBABLY RESEARCH WHERE WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO DESIGN FOR THE 3D PRINTER AND THEN PRINT FOR IT.
AND IT WILL BE THE SAME WAY WITH THE GLOWFORGE YOU DO DESIGN, UH, HOW YOUR, HOW IT'S GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING.
AND SO WE WILL TEACH PEOPLE THAT PART OF INITIALLY IT'LL BE STAFF ONLY RUNNING THOSE MACHINES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, UM, SISTER LIBRARIES AND OTHER LOCATIONS WHO HAVE INCLUDING WILLIAMSBURG WHO HAS A MAKER-SPACE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS HOW THEY DO THEIR PROJECTS.
IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE BRIEFING BY THE WHOLE TEAM.
A QUESTION YOU RAISE THE ISSUE OF DOMINO'S.
SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IN YOUR OPINION, WHICH ARE THE DOMINOES THAT YOU'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT? UH, I THINK THE DOMINO'S THAT EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT, WHICH IS SUPPLY AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS SHIPPED, BUT ALSO THEN FURNITURE AND THEN TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROGRESSING, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN NEVER TELL WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SHIPPED FROM OVERSEAS, UH, IF IT'S ONLY GETTING ORDERED RECENTLY, THEN WE MIGHT NOT GET IT WHEN WE WANT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S OKAY.
I, I I'VE BEEN HEARING GOOD THINGS THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE PROGRESSING AS IT, AS THEY'RE PLANNING, BUT I HATE TO GIVE AN, A SPECIFIC DATE BECAUSE THE WORLD IS JUST, THERE'S SO MUCH UNKNOWNS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF SHIPPING AND OUR PEOPLE ARE DOING EVERYTHING.
THEY CAN, THE CONTRACTORS AND OUR WORKERS TO OUR, OUR STAFF IN THE COUNTY TO SMOOTH THAT PROCESS ALONG.
SO DO WE HAVE, UM, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO OPERATE THE LIBRARY? YES, WE ARE CURRENTLY HIRING, UM, AND WE WILL BE DOING SOME MORE HIRING AS, AS TIME MOVES ON, BUT YES, WE DID ACTUALLY, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO ADD A LIBRARY AND ONE AND NEW SERVICES, WHICH WILL HELP US MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAMMING THERE IS, IS FULLY STAFFED AND, AND PROVIDED.
AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER, UM, WRS IN, IN THAT SORT OF THING, WE'LL BE HIRING SOME PEOPLE, BUT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF STAFF TO COVER, BUT WE ALWAYS CAN USE MORE.
WHAT ABOUT VOLUNTEERS? YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS CURRENTLY, WE MAINLY DO TEEN VOLUNTEERING.
UM, WE ARE EVALUATING THAT PROGRAM, UM, TO EXPAND IT BACK OUT, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN SAY FOR SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OR NOT, BUT WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, OUR VOLUNTEER, OUR TEENS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE WONDERFUL AND THEY ALWAYS WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO WE'RE OFTEN ABLE TO TAP THEM TO HELP US WITH CERTAIN THINGS LIKE PROVIDING PROGRAMS FOR OTHER YOUTH.
AND, UM, AND BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BRIEFING, IT WAS SOMETHING REFERENCED.
I W I KNOW NEKO IS, BUT WHAT SAID INDIAN? OH YEAH.
SO, SO IT'S THE NETWORK OF THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY THAT GRANT, UH, IT'S JUST A LARGER ORGANIZATION THAT CONNECTS LIBRARIES OF MEDICINE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE POINT OF THAT GRANT IS TO, UM, HELP PEOPLE ACCESS HEALTH INFORMATION.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS HEALTH INFORMATION RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH DIGITAL LITERACY.
SO WE TOOK A BROADER APPROACH AND FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE PEOPLE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH NOT ONLY
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USING DEVICES, BUT ALSO FINDING INFORMATION.AND THEN WE WERE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.
WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF SENIORS WHO HAD TO MAKE TELEHEALTH APPOINTMENTS AND THEY, THEY REALLY WEREN'T COMFORTABLE DOING IT.
AND SO WE WERE HOPING THAT PROVIDING THEM A BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO USE THEIR DEVICES AND THE INTERNET, THEY WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPENING AND SEEING EVERYBODY IN IT, BUT EVEN SO YOU'VE ALL MANAGED TO KEEP PROGRAMS GOING AND STARTING NEW PROGRAMS TO IT.
SO IT'S ALIVE AND WELL, AS I SAID BEFORE, SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
ALL OF, THANK YOU, MRS. NEXT WE'LL DO CITIZENS' COMMENT
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PERIOD.AND I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO'VE SIGNED UP.
THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS RICHARD HOWELL.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THERE'S A SMALL BRIEFING AND A WELL WE'LL REVIEW THAT.
AND JUST SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU TO READ MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I LIVE AT 1 0 4 HORSESHOE DRIVE OVER TWO YEARS AGO, THE BOS DIRECTED THE PLANNING STAFF TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES ON STRS, TO HELP WITH THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING TO HANG YOUR HAT ON, TO TAKE SOME OF THE CONS, UH, CONTENTIOUSNESS OFF THE TABLE.
WE FORMED A CITIZENS GROUP TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND MET WITH THE PLANNING STAFF PERIODICALLY OVER A YEAR TO BUILD IDEAS FOR THESE GUIDELINES.
STAFF HAD US BRIEF THE PC AND THEY HELD A WORKING SESSION TO CONSIDER, BUT DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED ANY GUIDELINES, WHICH WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS AND SDR IS EVEN TODAY.
AND THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE STR ISSUE IS GROWING.
WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A BOW WAVE COMING.
IN FACT, IT'S ALREADY HERE LOOKING AT THE NEXT SLIDE.
YOU SEE THAT THE TREND IS UNDENIABLE, BUT YOU'VE STILL NOT RECEIVED ANY GUIDELINES.
THE PAPER I PROVIDED GIVES YOU RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR STR GUIDELINES OR GENERAL RULES.
AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, AT LEAST IT GIVES YOU A PLACE TO START.
SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO PUT THEM IN PLACE? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE VIEW THEM AS STRIKING A BALANCE BETWEEN OPPORTUNITY AND COMMUNITY, PROVIDING A FIRM FOOTING FOR DECISIONS, ALLOWING PUBLIC INPUT AND THE BOS DECISION PROCESS TO CONTINUE AS A WE'VE ALWAYS FAVORED AVOIDING COST AND FRUSTRATION FOR APPLICANTS UPFRONT AND MAKING ALLOWANCES FOR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OPERATIONS.
NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE EIGHT GENERAL RULES WE'VE PUT FORWARD.
WE BELIEVE THAT ONCE YOU'VE SETTLED ON THEM, THEY SHOULD BE ADOPTED AND PUT INTO WRITING.
AND THE PLANNING DIVISIONS ONLINE INFO, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ADDRESS THINGS LIKE SYNCHRONIZATION WITH A HOME OCCUPATION ORDINANCES, WHICH BASICALLY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST A RESIDENCE.
IT ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A PLACE FOR WHOLE HOUSE STRS THAT OWN OUR OPERATORS IN RESONANCE SHOULD IT SHOULD BE IN RESONANCE WHEN THEY'RE NOT GRANDFATHERING PREVIOUSLY APPROVE STRS, Y VA AS A SEPARATE ENTITY COMMUNITY INPUT, AS A CRITICAL MUST.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, A DENSITY FACTOR, CRITICAL FACTOR IT'S ALREADY BEING BRIEFED.
YOU JUST HAVEN'T PUT IT IN WRITING.
LASTLY, WE ADDRESS CONSOLIDATION THE COUNTY PROCESSES TO PROVIDE A UNIFIED APPROACH.
WHEN DEALING WITH STRS, FROM APPLICATION TO TERMINATION, I HOPE YOU'LL GIVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THOUGHT ON HOW THEY CAN HELP YOU.
AS WE ADDRESS THE WAVE IN FRONT OF US, WE AREN'T VIRGINIA BEACH OR NEWPORT NEWS OR HAMPTON YET.
HOPEFULLY THESE IDEAS WILL HELP US AVOID WHAT THEY ARE NOW HAVING TO WRESTLE WITH.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITIZENS AND THIS COUNTY.
IF YOU HAPPY TO TALK OR ANSWER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SO MUCH.
THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE IS DAILY JAGER.
I LIVE AT HORSESHOE, A 1 0 8 HORSESHOE DRIVE, AND I
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JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMENTS WITH MY, UH, NEIGHBOR RICH.I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT COMMUNITY.
I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY, A LOT OF US DO.
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE IN A COMMUNITY? THEY'LL TALK ABOUT GARDENING, PURSUING THEIR HOBBIES, DOING THINGS IN THEIR FREE TIME, GETTING TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND WHAT THEY BASICALLY ARE DESCRIBING IS WHAT'S PROTECTED IN OUR ZONING LAWS, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS, THOSE REGULATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT OUR WAY OF LIFE AND PROTECT THIS, THIS TENUOUS CONNECTION BETWEEN ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND THE HOME OCCUPATIONS REGULATIONS WITHIN THAT ZONING REGULATION, THEY HELP TO BALANCE THE PRIMARY USE OF THE HOME AS A RESIDENCE, AND ALSO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO USE THEIR HOME AS A BUSINESS.
BUT THAT COMES AS AN ANCILLARY USE TO THE, TO THE HOME.
NOW, THE STR ACARA CARVE-OUT IN THESE REGULATIONS SEEMS TO TREAT THE, UM, HOME OCCUPATIONS AS STRS, AS A SEPARATE LITTLE SNOWFLAKE AS ITS OWN LITTLE WORLD.
AND THOSE REGULATIONS ARE VERY VAGUE AND THEY'RE, UH, VAGUE.
AND, UH, THEY CREATE A CONDITION WHERE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS FACED WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS ATTACHED TO EACH OF THESE APPLICATIONS.
NOW IT MIGHT'VE WORKED WHEN THERE WEREN'T ALL THAT MANY IN A PAST YEARS, BUT AS THE APPLICATIONS, NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS INCREASES.
SO DO ALL OF THESE SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE ATTACHED AND THESE, UM, UNWRITTEN GUIDELINES AND THESE GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ALL BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT NOT ACTUALLY WRITTEN ON PAPER.
SO NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE STR APPLICATIONS ARE INCREASING EXPONENTIALLY AND EXCEPTION IS NOW THE RULE.
I'M WONDERING HOW MANY STR APPLICATIONS COME WITHOUT, UM, THESE EXTRA LITTLE RULES ATTACHED THESE YES.
WITH, AND ONLY IF, AND THEN IT BECOMES EXCEPTION IS THE RULE.
SO WHAT DO WE DO MOVING FORWARD? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE STANDARDIZE THE REGULATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT RICH AND AN ENTIRE GROUP OF FOLKS, INCLUDING, UH, ALL KINDS OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND THESE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PUT FORWARD ARE WELL-ESTABLISHED, UH, UM, IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEEK STANDARD, UM, SOLUTIONS THAT PROVIDE STABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS WITH STANDARD EXPECTATIONS.
THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS NANCY RAIDER RAIDER HELLO? I'M NANCY RAIDER.
I'VE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN MY ADDRESS SO THAT, UH, SHE SAID IT WAS OKAY.
UH, NANCY RAIDER 5, 5 8, 0 YORK HAVEN LANE, GLOUCESTER, VIRGINIA.
UM, YOU SAID I COULD COME TO THE, UH, COMMENT PERIOD JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, BUT I UNDERSTAND, IS THERE A, UH, SOMETHING ON THE DOCKET CONCERNING THE HICKORY HILLS PROJECT, THERE IS AN, I DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT IT, OR YOU WANTED ME TO, YOU SAID IT WAS CLOSED.
AND W WE HAD CONTINUED, WE HAD CLOSED IT, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S THE LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE HERE, BUT WE HADN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.
HER CONCERN IS WHETHER SHE SPEAKS NOW OR REPORT.
BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR MY PROPERTY.
YOU'RE SPEAKING TO YOUR CONCERNS RIGHT NOW, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH MY PROPERTY.
I WAS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY FOR HICKORY, YOU KNOW, FOR MY FATHER AND I AM NOT.
AND YOU ARE PROPOSING THE CITY OF COUNTY ATTORNEY.
JAMES BARNETT IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD IN THE NATION ACTION, BE INITIATED WITH RESPECT TO ANY UNKNOWN INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY CLAIM AN INTEREST.
SO YOU'RE STILL PROCEEDING WITH THIS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT I SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HEAR IT OR COMMENT ON IT.
YOU'RE PERFECTLY WELCOME TO HEAR IT, BUT I CAN'T COMMENT NO, NO LONGER.
THAT'S WHY I OFFERED YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT NOW.
UM, WELL, UM, JUST SEEMS TO BE A GREAT CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE.
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THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU OFFERED.I ALMOST GAVE UP WITHOUT EVEN GOING TO COURT MY RIGHTS AND INTERESTS REALLY EASILY THROUGH WHAT I MEAN.
UH, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA TRY TO WORK IT OUT FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT.
AND, UM, SO NOW EVERYTHING IS ALL UP IN THE AIR AND YOU CONTINUOUSLY, AND I CONTINUOUSLY HEAR THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO, EVEN FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, THERE'S CERTAINLY NO NEED FOR YOU OR OTHER ESTATE AIRS TO ATTEND THE BOARD HEARING ON THIS MATTER.
SO I'VE GOTTEN THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY WEIRD.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO SOMETHING HERE WITH RESPECT TO MY PROPERTY, AND I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY WORKED THINGS OUT WITH VIRGINIA POWER, THANK GOODNESS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
AND I APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT THE CONTINUATION OF, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE INFORMED AS TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU'RE GONNA POST IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY RIGHTS TO MY PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU'RE SITTING, AND THEN YOU SAY, I DON'T NEED TO BE HERE.
TAKE GOOD NOTES, CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTY.
UM, SO I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHAT IF I'M GOING TO BE INFORMED IF I'M GOING TO GET A NOTICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY IS IT THAT I CAN'T FIND THIS INFORMATION OUT? I THINK YOU AND MR. BARNETT MAY TALK TO AFTERWARDS.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION HERE ON HER, ON HER POINTS, BECAUSE THIS IS A CARRY OVER FROM PREVIOUS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW, HANG ON THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
HE JUST MAKE COMMENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN ITEM THAT'S IN THE PUB AS A PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUATION, RIGHT.
IS THAT NEW BUSINESS IS THAT NEW BUSINESS CONTINUATION OF THE PUBLIC.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
SO THAT'S WHY NO ONE SPEAKING.
NOW THE QUESTION, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE WAY I READ THE, THE MATTERS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUING IS THAT THE, UH, PERSON THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY IS AGREED TO THE PRICE, RIGHT? AND THAT IS THIS CORRECT.
UH, TO EXPLAIN IT IN SOME DEPTH AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK I EXPLAINED IT.
NO, I DON'T WANT TO, EXCUSE ME.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IS
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET INTO IT, THE QUESTION I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW FOR YOU IS THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT OR A SETTLED AT THIS POINT.
I BELIEVE THE LAST COMMUNICATION I HAD FROM MS. RADER IS THAT SHE WAS HAPPY WITH THE EASEMENT DEED THAT WE OKAY.
ONCE WE PROVIDE A GRE AND ACCEPTED THE PRICE THAT WE ARE.
SO ONCE IF THAT'S THE AGREEMENT WE'RE PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH PROPERTY THAT NO LONGER BELONGS TO HER, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THEN IT'S STILL NOT ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT WOULD JUST BE A POWER LINE ACROSS EASTMAN.
WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO, SO, ALL RIGHT.
SO THEN SHE CAN HAVE CONCERNS THAT SHE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS.
I I'M HAPPY BY THE WAY, IF THE BOARD WISHES TO ALLOW HER TO SPEAK, WHEN THIS MATTER COMES BEFORE YOU LATER IN THE AGENDA, YOU'RE CERTAINLY ABLE TO STILL ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT I'VE HAD EXTENDED CONVERSATIONS WITH HER BOTH ACTUALLY ABOUT 85 TO A HUNDRED EMAILS AT THIS POINT.
WHEN I MADE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS LAST TIME, WE DID IT AFTER THE PO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEREFORE THERE WAS SOMETHING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
SO THEREFORE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE IT AND DO SOME THINGS.
I WAS VERY CONCERNED AT THE TIME ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF THE OFFER.
AND I BELIEVE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT I BELIEVE THAT MR. BARNETT AND THE, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY AND ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY WORKED VERY HARD, UH, TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A AGREEABLE PRICE.
SO THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE, THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE CLOSED PROCEDURALLY, BUT AS THE CHAIR, I BELIEVE THAT THE CHAIR COULD, UH, OPEN THE PUBLIC.
I'M NOT GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NORMALLY IN, UM, THESE, UH, VARIOUS TYPES OF ACTIONS, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING PART OF IT WHERE PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK, BUT AT TIMES WE'VE ALSO HAD, WHEN WE'VE GONE BACK TO THE STAFF, ASK QUESTIONS, WE'VE GONE BACK TO THE APPLICANT, THAT'S INVOLVED ASK QUESTIONS.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT I'M JUST THAT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT BEEN, IT'S NOT BEEN ABNORMAL FOR US TO DO THAT.
NO, WE'RE NOT OPENING IT UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN STILL HAVE, OR THAT'S
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PRECISELY WHY I GAVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE AS PUBLIC COMMENTS, BECAUSE WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE APPLICATION.WE THOUGHT WE'D REACHED THE AGREEMENT WITH YOU AS FAR AS THE COST WAS CONCERNED AND EVERYTHING WAS FINE.
AND I WAS JUST, WHEN WE GET TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
THERE'S A PROPOSED PUBLIC CLEARING, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AGREED TO EVERYTHING, HE STILL PROCEEDING TO ADVERTISE THE PROPERTY, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY MORE, ANYBODY COMES UP TO MAKE ANY CLAIMS. SO IT'S NOT CLOSED.
AND VIRGINIA POWER DOMINION POWER SAYS THAT THERE'S STILL A CLOUD ON THE TITLE AND THAT THEY CAN'T PROCEED WITH IT EITHER.
THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING.
IF THERE'S A CLOUD ON THE TITLE, WHICH IS WHAT HE HAS, IS PROCEEDING TO DO, YOU KNOW? AND I, AND THAT IS GONNA THAT IF VIRGINIA DOMINION POWER CAN'T PERCEIVE WELL, WHAT, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ME? DID YOU NOT TELL ME THAT YOU HAVE A PAPER SIGN? LIKE I DO FOR MY, BUT EVIDENTLY HE'S GOING TO PROCEED.
IF EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, HERE, IF WHOEVER STAYS, WHICH I WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT HE PROCEEDS WITH.
AS FAR AS MAKING CLAIMS ON MY PROPERTY, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
IT SAYS THE REMEDY IS TO FILE A CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT FOR THE EASEMENT NAMING POSSIBLE UNKNOWN HEIRS OF PERCY SMITH AND UNKNOWN PERSONS.
AND THEN HE SAYS, IF ANYONE DOES RAISE A CLAIM, WE WILL CONTACT THEM AND ATTEMPT TO SETTLE THEIR CLAIMS OR PROCEED WITH THE CONDEMNATION ASKS ACTION.
MEANWHILE, THE UPGRADE OF THE HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION COULD PROCEED.
I HAVE ADVISED MRS. RADER THAT THIS WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND THAT THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR HER TO BE A PARTY TO ANY FURTHER PROCEEDINGS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO PROCEED, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT AND I'VE SIGNED OFF ON DOCUMENTS.
UM, BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO PROCEED TO ADVERTISE IT AND SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE CAN COME FORTH AND CLAIM EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY.
MADAM CHAIR, IF I CAN SAY ONE VERY SHORT THING THAT WE DISCUSSED, THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE TITLE, FROM EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DETERMINE.
IT USED TO BE AN OLD ROAD AND IT SHOWS UP ON NUMEROUS PLANTS IS SOMETHING INCLUDING A COUNTY TAX MAPS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN THEY WERE STILL PAPER AS OLD FREE ROAD.
AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT SOMEBODY ELSE THERE.
WHO'S GOING TO TRY TO JUMP IN WHEN WE GOT THIS PROJECT HALF DONE OR EVEN DONE, THEY CLAIM, OH, YOU STILL ON ME MONEY.
SO I I'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT THAT IS AN ISSUE MR. HILL.
IT SHOWS UP ON NUMEROUS SUBDIVISION PLANTS TO THE AREA IS OLD FREE ROAD.
AND WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
WE HAVE A HOUSE BUILT ON AN OLD FREE ROAD THAT I LIVE ON NOW, BUT, UH, NEVERTHELESS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL, IT'S NOT CLOSED.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT, MY PORTION IS STILL UP IN THE AIR, WHETHER I'M GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF, UH, ISSUE ON MY TITLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK I SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO BE A PART OF THAT, THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME UP AND CLAIM SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN ANY ANYTIME.
I MEAN, IT'S ONLY BEEN, AND EVEN IF THIS WASN'T ON THE TABLE, YOU COULD STILL HAVE THAT ISSUE.
IT'S ONLY BEEN 40 YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN IN MY FAMILY OR MORE, AND THERE ARE OTHER AND OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, WATER EASEMENTS.
SO WE'RE EATING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND POWER EASEMENTS THAT RUN A LOT ON PROPERTY.
YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF A LONG TIME AGO AGENDA.
BUT I THINK WHAT MR. BARNETT AND HIS OFFICE IS GOING TO DO IS TO ASSURE THAT YOU WON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL CLAIMS ON YOUR PROPERTY BY FOLLOWING HIS PROCESS.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S STILL KIND OF WIDE OPEN.
THIS MAY ACTUALLY CLOSE THAT LOOP FOR YOU PROCEED LIKE THAT, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THOSE DETAILS HERE WHEN WE HIT, HIT THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A FINAL SPEAKER, UH, AC CORDOZA SIGNED UP NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
I'M AC CORDOZA AND I LIVE AT 400 OLD POINT AVENUE IN HAMPTON.
I JUST WANTED TO COME BY AND RE-INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M THE DELEGATE REPRESENTING THE 91ST DISTRICT, WHICH IS ENCOMPASSES HAMPTON PICASA AND THE YORK COUNTY, NOT THE ENTIRETY OF ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCALITIES, BUT DID PORTIONS OF ALL THREE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT AND LET THE CITIZENS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE CITIZENS KNOW HOW YOU CAN REACH ME.
IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES I CAN ADDRESS ON THE STATE LEVEL, ANY, ANYTHING I CAN PUSH FOR THE CITIZENS OR, OR OUR, OUR COUNTY AND MY EX, WHEN I GIVE MY PHONE NUMBER, MY ADDRESS AND, AND ALERT YOU TO OUR NEW OFFICE.
IT SAID FORT MONROE, IT'S AT 1 0 2
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PRATT STREET, AND WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING A GRAND OPENING FOR THE CITIZENS.AND I WOULD LIKE, OF COURSE, I LIKE TO ASK ALL OF YOU TO COME OUT AND HAVE A GOOD TIME WITH US WHEN IT OPENS.
AND I WILL SEND THAT EACH, UH, EACH OF YOU, WHEN, WHEN I GET THAT INFORMATION AND FEEL FREE TO SEND ANY CORRESPONDENCE THERE, OR YOU CAN CALL MY DISTRICT OFFICE AT (757) 751-0929.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ASK ANYTHING, ANY IDEAS, ANYTHING I'M HERE TO SERVE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSE IT, SEEING NONE CLOSE TO THE CITIZENS COMMENT, PERIOD, UH, COUNTY
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS PLEASE? UM, NOTHING, BUT APPARENTLY I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY FURTHER IN THE AGENDA.[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ADMINISTRATOR JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE 4TH OF JULY EVENTS THAT WE HAD IN YOUR TOWN, THE PARADE, THE FIREWORKS, AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS.UH, THANK EVERYBODY FOR TURNING OUT AND REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF THE STAFF TO PULL IT TOGETHER.
I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK NOW AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE, UH, BOARD COMMENTS AFTERWARDS AT HEARINGS.
WE'RE BACK IN SESSION NOW, AND WE'RE STARTING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[1 Application UP-991-22, Merit Anglin. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-119 to approve an application to authorize a tourist home in an existing dwelling at 321 Oaktree Road]
AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS CONSIDERED THE ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, OUR 22 DASH 1 1 9 A TO APPROVE A TOURIST HOME AT 3 21 OAK ROAD AND EARL ANDERSON.SO THIS IS A TOURIST HOME IN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
AS YOU SAID ON, UM, OAK TREE ROAD, UH, HERE IS THE PROPERTY SHOWN IN RED OUTLINE, UH, IS A RATHER LONG PARCEL, BUT THE HOME SITS RIGHT DIRECTLY ON OAK TREE ROAD.
UH, THE TWO ADJACENT USES THAT WHERE YOU HAVE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN YELLOW.
UH, THERE'S A HOUSE THAT SITS ON OAK TREE ROAD ALSO.
AND THEN THERE'S A HOME THAT SITS BEHIND THAT, THAT OTHER HOME, THE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY OWN THE ONE THAT SITS BEHIND IN ADDITION TO THE, THE RED ONE.
UM, LET ME GO BACK ONE SLIDE HERE, CAUSE IT DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE ZONING OUT HERE.
SO THE ZONING OUT HERE IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND, AND IT BACKS UP TO RC, WHICH IS THE WALLER WALLER MILL RESERVOIR AREA.
AND THEN ACROSS OAK TREE ROAD IS GENERAL BUSINESS, BUT IT'S UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AREA OF PHOTO, IT'S NOT SHOWING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER SIDE.
SO AS I WAS STAYING THE PROPERTY, THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION IS THERE IN THE RED CIRCLE AND THE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY LIVE, UM, JUST ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO THERE'LL BE PRESENT DURING ALL ACT, UM, ANY KIND OF RENTALS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS THE HOME FROM OAK TREE ROAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVEWAY THERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S TWO STORY, BUT IT'S GOT A FULL BASEMENT.
SO I GUESS ONE STORY WITH A FULL BASEMENT UNDERNEATH IT.
UM, AND THIS IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS TO THE LEFT.
IF YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, I WILL NOTE THAT THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER DID WRITE A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
AND YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY SHOWS THAT HAVING A THREE BEDROOMS WITH TWO BATHROOMS AND OPEN LIVING ROOM, KITCHEN AREA, UH, LAUNDRY ROOM, UH, IN THE FULL BASEMENT AND ANOTHER FULL BATHROOM DOWN IN THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES OR THE USE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES.
UH, THEY HAVE A 15 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY AND THEN A LITTLE PARKING AREA IN THE BACK.
AND SO THEY CAN ADEQUATELY PARK THE FOUR REQUIRED CAR SPACES THERE.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, JUST IN SUMMARY VERY QUICKLY.
IT WILL BE A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL, UM, THAT THE AFRICANS WILL BE PRESENT IN THEIR, UM, DRE JASON STRUCTURE, UH, UP TO SIX GUESTS, THREE TO 14 NIGHTS, UM, THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY SIGNAGE AND THERE WILL BE NO EXTERIOR CHANGES.
ALL OF THESE ARE WITHIN YOUR RESOLUTION AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UH, THERE ARE NO APPROVED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE OAK TREE ROAD AREA.
UH, THE NEAREST ONE IS ON TOM THOMAS ROAD, WHICH IS IN THE GREEN CIRCLE.
THERE IT'S ABOUT 1.6 MILES DRIVING MILES DISTANCE AWAY ACROSS INTERSTATE 64.
AND THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2019 BY THE BOARD.
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SO AS I STATED ALREADY, THE AFRICANS WILL BE THERE FOR ALL RENTALS, NO MORE THAN SIX GUESTS, UH, NO SIGNAGE.UM, AND THE, UM, AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND MORE RECENT APPLICATIONS, THE PERMIT WILL STOP.
IF THE APPLICANTS EITHER SELL THE PROPERTY OR THEY MOVE AWAY FROM THEIR CURRENT ADDRESS LOCATION, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
UH, THIS AREA IS VERY SPARSELY DEVELOPED.
UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER PROPERTY THAT HAS HOME ON IT OTHER THAN THE APPLICANTS.
UM, SO THERE'S NOT A, THERE WILL BE VERY CLOSE BY TO MONITOR ANY GUEST BEHAVIOR.
UH, WE DID NOT FEEL THERE'D BE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THIS AREA.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND YOU HAVE THAT RESOLUTION, OUR 22 DASH 19, UH, WHEN THE PANT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD IT, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SIX TO ZERO.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES, I NOTICED THERE WAS A BUILDING ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY WHERE THEY RESIDE.
WHAT DOES THAT BUILD AND DO YOU KNOW, UM, I'LL LET THE APPLICANTS TELL YOU I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THE ONE THAT THEY RESIDE ON.
THANK YOU WITH THE ACT WE CAN LIKE THE SPEAK, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS BRIEF, BUT I WAS HOPING TO MAYBE, UM, GIVE THIS APPLICATION SOME CONTEXT, CAUSE THERE WERE SOME CONCERN.
THANKS FOR, UM, CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION.
UM, SO WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ADDRESS, MARITZ ENGLAND.
I LIVE AT THREE 17 OAK TREE ROAD, SO RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
UM, TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
UM, SO WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN 2009 AND, UM, WE HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS TO OUR COMMUNITY IN, IN CENSUS THAT WEREN'T MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, SINCE THEN, UM, WE HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBOR IN PURCHASING THE REAR SECTION OF THAT PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UM, PRIMARILY TO JUST SET IT ASIDE AND PRESERVE THE WOODS, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
UM, BUT WHEN COVID HIT AND, UM, OUR NEIGHBOR, FORMER NEIGHBOR, UH, AN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DECIDED TO MOVE AWAY.
UM, WE, UH, MADE AN OFFER AND BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, UH, TO MAKE IT, UM, INTO A IN-LAW SUITE.
UM, FOR SEVERAL REASONS, ONE, UM, I'M GERMAN.
SO ARE MY PARENTS, MY WHOLE FAMILY IS STILL OVER THERE AND WHEN THEY COME, THEY COME FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AND THEY PLANNED TO AGAIN, COME FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THIS WINTER, BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID TO HAVE NO HEAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE GEOPOLITICAL SITUATION NOW.
UM, SO BETWEEN FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY LIVES ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, NEW MEXICO, ARIZONA, FLORIDA, AND MOST OF THEM ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UPPER SIXTIES.
MY PARENTS ARE IN THEIR LATE SEVENTIES.
UM, SO THEY ALSO LIKE TO COME AND STAY AND SEE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN THERE.
UM, SO, UH, WE HOPE TO, UH, SUPPLEMENT OUR MORTGAGE BY WHEN IT'S NOT BUSY WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY, UH, DOING SHORT TERM RENTALS NOW, UM, I WILL SAY THAT WHEN WE RENOVATED THIS HOUSE, UM, AND IT WAS WELL TAKEN CARE OF BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND SHE SOLD IT TO US AS HER SANCTUARY AND TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
UM, I PROMISED TO DO THAT AND WE RENOVATED AND INVESTED A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO IT, GETTING IT READY FOR OUR FAMILY.
SO THIS IS NOT A PROPERTY THAT SET UP FOR RENTALS OR, UM, QUICK DECLINE.
UM, WE, UM, WOULD BE, UH, DURING THESE SHORT PERIODS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO VENT IT VERY SELECTIVE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN TO RENT THE SPACE.
UM, SO, UH, WE HAD 10 HAVE LOOKED AT AIRBNB TO SEE IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF FORUM THAT WOULD HELP US FACILITATE WHERE THERE COULD BE RULES POSTED AND ENFORCED, UM, AND REVIEWS GATHERED ON POTENTIAL GUESTS.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE CAREFUL FOR, UH, OUR OWN SAKE, BUT ALSO OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, WHO VOTE ANOTHER LETTER IN SUPPORT.
I THOUGHT YOU WANT TO READ IT.
UM, SO, UH, IF APPROVED, YOU CAN TRUST THAT IT WILL NOT BE TURNED INTO A NUISANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE PEOPLE AROUND US THAT WOULD MONITOR THIS TOO MUCH OTHER THAN OUR NEIGHBORS UPFRONT.
UM, BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, THE LONG COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND STANDING, UM, UH, YOU'LL HAVE TO TRUST ME ON THIS AND I'LL JUST BE WILLIAM AND MARY HONOR CODE.
BUT, UM, I HAVE BEEN CLEANING UP THIS ROAD FOR 13 YEARS ONCE A WEEK OR MORE OFTEN.
AND IT USUALLY GENERATES, I SEND MR. ANDERSON A PICTURE TODAY, AT LEAST ONE BAG DAILY, UM, AT TWO BIG TRASH BAGS ON A WEEKEND.
AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
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INVESTED A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY IN PAYING FOR TIRE REMOVAL OR TOXIC.HOPEFULLY WE DO NOT HAVE A WASTE MANAGEMENT, UM, CAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
SO, UM, UH, I HAVE TAKEN THIS UPON ME.
I'M ALSO A STATE LICENSED REHABBER.
SO I ALSO AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT BEHIND OUR WOODS AND I TAKE CARE OF THAT ALSO.
UM, SO, UH, IN ADDITION, MY HUSBAND OWNS A SIZABLE BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTY, SO WE'RE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS IN TERMS OF TAXES AS WELL.
UM, AND UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK YOU'VE COVERED IT VERY WELL, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM MR. ROWAN, RIGHT? SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLAT.
DO YOU CURRENTLY RESIDE AT THREE 17? CORRECT.
AND YOUR NEIGHBOR IS THREE 19.
AND THE BUILDING IN QUESTION I THINK IS ACTUALLY ON THEIR PROPERTY, IT MIGHT BE HIS BARN.
AND IT DOES LOCATE, SO IT'S JUST A BARN AND IT'S ON HIS PROPERTY.
THANK YOU, MS. AND I'LL HAVE A QUESTION.
ARE YOU ON CITY WATER OUT THERE OR WELLS? WE ARE ON A WELL, AND THERE IS A STIPULATION THAT THE WELBY INSPECTED AND THAT THE WATER QUALITY MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS.
SO MY HUSBAND IS ARRANGING FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE MET BY, UH, THE HOUSE DOES HAVE THREE BATHROOMS SO THAT THE WELL THAT THE SEPTIC IS SET UP WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
UH, MR.
SO WE CAN TAKE THAT UP A LITTLE LATER ON, BUT MY VOTE IS YES.
I'LL GO TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CARES TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I LIKE TO, I WENT TO MOVE, UM, THE, UH, NINE, NINE AT 1 22.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROWAN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSE RESOLUTION R 22 DASH ONE 19 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA.
[2 Application YVA-48-22, C2J Properties. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22- 121 to approve a Yorktown Village activity application to authorize a tourist home within an existing single-family attached dwelling at 210 Ambler Street.]
TO THE NEXT ONE.THE NEXT ONE IS A PROPOSED RESOLUTION OR 22 DASH 1 21, A C TO J PROPERTIES TO APPROVE A TOURIST HOME, BUT TWO 10 AMBER STREET, JAMES.
SKINNY TOWARDS, HEY, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TOURIST HOME AND AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED WELLING LOCATED AT TWO 10 AMBLER STREET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN YORKTOWN AND IT OVERLOOKS THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM PROPERTIES, THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ZONED YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY.
THE PROPOSED HOME IS A THREE BEDROOM TOWNHOUSE, WHICH OCCUPIES THREE HUNDREDS OF AN ACRE.
AND THE PROPERTY IS BOUNDED BY TWO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES AND A COMMON AREA OWNED BY THE WINDMILL POINT OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
SO CLAUDIA CASSO ONE OF THE APPLICANTS AND THE OWNER OF C2 J PROPERTIES, LLC RESIDES WITH HER HUSBAND, JACOB PALTROW, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING LOCATED AT TWO 12 AMBLER STREET, THOUGH, THE TOURIST HOME WOULD BE MANAGED BY C2 J PROPERTIES, LLC.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY TWO 10 AMBLER STREET, LLC, WHICH IS OWNED BY MR. FRANKWOOD STAFF HAS PROPOSED AN APPROVAL CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE TOURIST HOME TO BE SUPERVISED AND MANAGED BY A PERSON WHO RESIDES AND IS PRESENT AT TWO 12 AMBLER STREET.
WHEN THE TOURIST HOME IS RENTED, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE, THEY WOULD RENT THE WHOLE THREE BEDROOM TOWNHOUSE TO NO MORE THAN SIX GUESTS.
AND THE TOURIST HOME WOULD BE RENTED FOR A MINIMUM OF THREE AND A MAXIMUM OF 28 NIGHTS STAFF IS PROPOSING AN APPROVAL CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE TOURIST HOME TO BE OPERATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, OPERATING IN THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE AREA, ALL OF WHICH WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
UH, THESE INCLUDE THREE BED AND BREAKFAST ESTABLISHMENTS.
UH, THE MARLIN ON CHURCH STREET, THE YORK RIVER IN ON AMBLER STREET, WHICH IS LOCATED NEXT DOOR TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE HORNSBY HOUSE IN ON MAIN
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STREET.TOURIST HOMES INCLUDE THE YORKTOWN COTTAGES ON BALLARD STREET AND THE ANDRADE HOUSE ON NELSON STREET.
NOW THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS APPROVED AS A BED AND BREAKFAST ESTABLISHMENT IN 1995, JUST ONE MONTH AFTER THE YORK RIVER IN GAINED APPROVAL.
BUT THE APPLICANT MR. FRANK WOULD NEVER ESTABLISHED THE BUSINESS.
ACCORDING TO THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC, ENGINEERS, TRIP GENERATION MANUAL, THE TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING GENERATES AN AVERAGE OF 7.2 TRIPS PER DAY, WHILE NO TRIP GENERATION ESTIMATES ARE AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SIMILAR USES FOR WHICH THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE.
OUR TIMESHARE UNITS, WHICH GENERATED AN AVERAGE OF 8.6 TRIPS PER DAY AND OCCUPIED MOTEL ROOMS, WHICH GENERATE AN AVERAGE OF 4.4 TRIPS PER DAY.
THE NUMBER OF PEAK HOUR TRIPS FOR BOTH USES IS LESS THAN ONE STEP LEAVES US WOULD NOT OVERBURDEN THE AMBLER STREET, WHICH CARRIES APPROXIMATELY 80 VEHICLES PER DAY.
THE WINDMILL POINT TOWNHOMES SUBDIVISION HAS 18 PARKING SPACES THAT SERVE SIX HOMES.
EACH HOME HAS TWO ASSIGNED PARKING SPACES AND THERE ARE SIX ADDITIONAL GUEST SPACES.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A TOTAL OF FOUR OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES FOR THIS USE THE APPLICANT STATE IN THEIR NARRATIVE THAT WHILE THE TWO ASSIGNED SPACES ALONG WITH TWO OF THE GUEST SPACES COULD BE USED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, RENTERS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO CARS, WHICH WILL PARK IN THE TWO SPACES ASSIGNED TO TWO 10 AMBLER STREET.
STAFF HAS PROPOSED THIS AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AS WELL.
WITH PREVIOUS TOURIST HOME APPLICATIONS CONCERNS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED THAT THE PROPERTY COULD EVENTUALLY BE SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD NOT FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURES AS THE APPLICANT TO A LADY'S CONCERNS.
STAFF HAS INCLUDED A PROPOSED CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD CAUSE THE USE PERMIT TO EXPIRE UPON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING EVENTS.
ONE C2, J PROPERTIES, LLC, CEASES TO OPERATE THE TOURIST HOME TO CLAUDIA CASSO IS NO LONGER A PRINCIPAL OWNER OF C TWO J PROPERTIES LLC, OR 3, 2 10 AMBLER STREET, LLC IS NO LONGER THE OWNER OF THE TOURIST HOME THAT THE BOARD HAS CREATED, UH, CREATED THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE ACTIVITY DISTRICT TO RECOGNIZE THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AREA, AS WELL AS THE INTERRELATEDNESS OF HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES.
UNLIKE SOME OTHER TOURIST HOME APPLICATIONS, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
RATHER IT'S LOCATED IN A MIXED USE VILLAGE THAT HAS A VARIETY OF LAND USES.
MANY OF WHICH ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER CONSISTENT WITH THE BOARD'S OBJECTIVES RELATED TO ENHANCEMENT OF TOURISM.
THE PROPOSED TOURIST HOME WOULD ADD VARIETY TO THE RANGE OF VISITOR ACCOMMODATIONS AND YORKTOWN.
FURTHERMORE, THE APPLICANTS LIVE LESS THAN 50 FEET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN A VERY SMALL COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAVE THEIR NEIGHBORS SUPPORT AND STAFF'S OPINION THAT THE PROPOSED TOURIST HOME WOULD HAVE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEARBY PROPERTIES OR ON THE YORKTOWN VILLAGE.
THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 22 DASH 1 21.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED THREE TO ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION AS WELL.
AND THE APPLICANT IS, UH, APPLICANTS ARE HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? CAN WE REVISIT THE PARKING? I MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WEDGING IN A LOT OF VEHICLES HERE.
SO, SO OUR REQUIREMENTS, THEY CAN PUT WHAT SIX PEOPLE IN HERE, RIGHT? YES.
SO, I MEAN, IS THAT COUNTING AS COUNTY AND THE CHILDREN ARE? YES.
SO THEY, BUT THEY ONLY COME IN TWO CARS.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ADEQUATE TO COVER THIS PARKING.
WILL THAT NOT INTERFERE WITH THE NEIGHBORS? YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE, YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MR. ZOOMBA? YEAH.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SET UP TO HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE.
UH, THIS BOAT WAS THREE TO ONE, THREE APPROVAL, ONE DISAPPROVAL.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME, AND I'VE, I'VE WATCHED THIS A WHILE NOW THAT SEEMS TO BE A TREND WHERE A NUMBER OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS DO NOT SHOW UP FOR THESE VERY IMPORTANT MEETINGS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE 3G HAD SHOWED UP THAT WERE ABSENT, UH, WHAT ALREADY HAD ONE? NO, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERHAPS, I MEAN, PERHAPS FOUR NODES AND THREE APPROVALS.
AND SO I DON'T GET IT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION QUITE FRANKLY.
UH, THOSE COMMENTS ASIDE SINCE THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE, I'LL SAY YES.
I HAVE, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JANE.
I HAVE A CLAUDIA CASSO WHO SIGNED UP AND JACOB NOW YOU'RE THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU GET ABOUT 10 MINUTES IF YOU WISH IT.
MY NAME IS JAKE PALTROW'S IS CLAUDIA.
MY WIFE, UM, AS STATED WE LIVE AT TWO 12 AMBLER STREET
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AND WE'LL BE OVERSEEING AND MANAGING THE PROPERTY, UH, AT TWO 10 AMBLER, UH, THE UNITS ABOUT 50 FEET FROM OUR UNIT.AND, UH, THERE ARE FIVE OTHER UNITS IN THE WINDMILL POINT, UH, HOA, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THE OWNER OF MR WOOD'S GOAL IS NOT TO KEEP THE, THE UNIT OCCUPIED FULL TIME, BUT RATHER, UM, HIS INTENT IS TO RENT IT PERIODICALLY USING RENTAL PLATFORMS ONLINE FOR BOOKING AND BY WORD OF MOUTH.
UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO EXPERIENCE THE LOCAL EVENTS AND CULTURE AND YORKTOWN, AND THEN THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE, UM, HIS MR. WOOD IS SEEKING THE PERMIT TO HELP MAINTAIN AND UPKEEP HIS PROPERTY WHILE IT'S VACANT.
UM, ALL THE FUNDS WILL BE REINVESTED INTO THE PROPERTY FOR, UH, REPAIRS AND UPDATES.
MR. WARD IS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND HIS OWN, THE RESIDENTS SINCE THE EARLY NINETIES, UH, THE UNIT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS THROUGH THE OWNER'S AGENT HEALTH.
HOWEVER, HIS FAMILY STILL VISITS WHEN A SCHEDULE PREVENTS PERMITS, AND HE WAS HERE LAST WEEK FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.
UM, AS STATED BEFORE MY WIFE AND I LIVE NEXT DOOR AND HAVE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS, AND WE'VE GROWN, GROWN FOND OF THE CHARM AND CULTURE OF YORKTOWN AS WELL AS THEIR SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, HOW UNIQUE THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS IN RELATION TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN YORKTOWN.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SHARE THAT WITH PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LOCAL TO THE AREA, UH, THIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TOURISTS AND ALSO TRAVELERS SEEKING TO EXPERIENCE, UH, THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE BEING THAT WE LIVE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY OVERSEE AND MANAGE IT.
FURTHERMORE, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBOR AND RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY IT'S PRIVACY AND COMFORT IS OUR TOP PRIORITY.
UH, WE WILL ENSURE THAT ALL STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AND REGULATIONS ARE FOLLOWED BY GUESTS AND WE WILL ACCOMPLISH THIS BY PROPERLY VETTING THEM PRIOR TO BOOKING, UH, AND BEING SELECTIVE WITH WHO WE ALLOWED TO STAY.
OUR SECOND PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR GUESTS.
UM, AND WE WILL ENSURE THAT ALL SAFETY, LOCAL SAFETY LAWS AND REGULATIONS ARE STRICTLY ENFORCED PARKING.
UH, I KNOW IT WAS A CONCERN, BUT IT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN WINDMILL POINT OR THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS, UH, OF, OF THE STREET AMBLER STREET.
UM, AND ONLY A MAXIMUM OF TWO VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED TO STAY, BUT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPACES TO MEET THE LOCAL ORDINANCE.
UM, AND SO WHAT THAT CLAUDIA? OKAY.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY MY HUSBAND SAID MOST OF WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY, BUT IN GENERAL, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION UNDER OUR LLC NAME AND MR. WOOD'S HOME IS OWN UNDER AN LLC.
SO IT SEEMS, UH, MOST, A LITTLE BIT IMPERSONAL, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, MR. WOOD OR APPROACHED MY HUSBAND AND I, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES, UM, DON'T RESIDE HERE FULL TIME.
UH, WE DO, MY HUSBAND IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA.
SO NOBODY HAS A MORE VESTED INTEREST THAN OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER COMES NEXT DOOR TO STAY, UM, IS SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO COME BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE AREA.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, I, US, AND OUR COMMUNITY.
AND OVERALL AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP MR. WOOD, UH, RENT HIS HOME PART-TIME TO HELP COVER THE EXPENSES OF KEEPING HIS HOME.
UH, HIS FAMILY LIKES TO COME FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN HE IS ABLE TO, HE LIKES TO COME.
LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID HE WAS HERE LAST WEEKEND.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, DUE TO HEALTH CONCERNS, HE IS MOSTLY RESTRICTED TO BEING ENRICHMENT AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THEM MAINTAIN HIS HOME, OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, OUR, I SHOULD SAY OUR HOME BECAUSE WE'RE ATTACHED BY THE SAME ROOF.
UM, AND JUST IN GENERAL, HELP HIM BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN HIS HOME AND BE ABLE TO KEEP IT, UM, AS LONG AS HE'S ABLE TO.
AND FOR THAT, WE JUST, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ALLOWING US THE TIME TO COME ON HERE AND PRESENT.
UM, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YES.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SIGNAGE, ANY PLANS FOR SIGNAGE TO ADVERTISE IN FRONT OF YOU? THE HOME? NO, SIR.
ANY CHANGES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A TOWNHOME? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE ADVERTISING ONLINE AND WORD OF MOUTH.
UM, MR. COLE, I BELIEVE LIVES THERE AND RUNS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WOULD I GUESS NEXT DOOR TO YOU DIRECTLY.
SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TURNING TWO OF THE SIX UNITS THERE INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
HIS IS THE AIR A BED AND BREAKFAST, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT YES, SIR.
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YES, SIR.UM, THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS A LONG TIME AGO TOGETHER AND THERE WERE APPROVED TOGETHER.
UH, BUT MR. WOOD WAS ABLE TO BE IN THE HOME MOST OF THE TIME, SO HE NEVER ACTUALLY RENTED IT OUT.
UM, AND NOW HE'S FINDING HIMSELF IN A POSITION WHERE HE HAS TO, UH, TO SUPPLEMENT THE COST OF THE HOME.
AND THAT'S WHY HE'S ASKED US TO DO IT.
BUT MR. COLE AND HIM, UM, OUR FRIENDS AND THERE, WE SAT DOWN AS AN HOA PART.
YOU HAVE IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR PACKET, A MEMO, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SIGNED BY OUR NEIGHBORS TO INCLUDE MR. COLE AND IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUSINESS.
UM, BUT YES, HE'S ABSOLUTELY AN APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CARE TO SPEAK? I SEE ONE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I LIVE AT 1 0 8 HORSESHOE DRIVE.
AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
ACTUALLY, THE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT TWO 10 IS AN LLC.
IS THAT, UH, WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, THE HOME IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE USED AS AN STR.
THE QUESTION IS IF THE LLC IS SOLD, THEN IS THAT CONSIDERED STILL A VALID UNDER THE STR RULES? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THE PRESENTATION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU SET THIS UP, THE HOME THAT'S POINTED TO BE RENTED OUT, UH, IF THAT'S OWNED BY AN LLC AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE LLC, THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDER, IF THEY SELL THE LLC, THE HOME IS NOT BEING SOLD.
SO THAT COULD BE BOUGHT UP BY AN, UH, OUT OF TOWN, UM, INVESTOR, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO THAT'S, MY QUESTION IS MORE CLARIFICATION FOR THE COUNTY.
IS, IS THAT COVERED, UH, WOULD THE, UH, STR, UH, SUP BE NULL AND VOID IF THE LLC FOR THE TWO, 10 IS SOLD? THAT'S MY CLARIFYING QUESTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT PLACE? SHE'S CORRECT.
IT'S A, IT'S TWO, 10 AVALAR STREET, LLC IS NO LONGER THE OWNER OF THE TOURISM.
BUT IF THE CONCERN IS, UH, THAT THE MANAGEMENT STAYS THE SAME, THEN THAT'S ALSO PROTECTED BY THE OTHER TWO CLAUSES IN THAT, UH, CONDITION, WHICH ARE THAT, UM, J PROPERTIES MUST OPERATE THE TOURIST HOME AND THAT, UH, CLAUDIA CASTLE MUST BE A PRINCIPAL OWNER OF CJ J PROPERTIES.
WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD 22 DASH 1 21 LOCAL PLACE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSE RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 21 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. GREEN, MR. ROWAN.
[3 Hickory Hills Pump Station Rehabilitation Project. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-107 to enter upon and take a certain permanent utility easement in connection with the Hickory Hills Pump Station Rehabilitation Project.]
THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 7, HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION REHABILITATION PROJECT.UH, MR. BARNETT, NOW, NOW YOU CAN TALK TO HIM ABOUT AND SEE IF I CAN SUMMARIZE THIS, UM, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, IF IN YOUR AGENDA, THERE IS A GIS PRODUCED MAP THAT IS ABOUT THE COUNTIES, UM, MAPPING INFORMATION SYSTEM, UH, PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM, HICKORY HILLS COMPENSATION, PROPOSED UTILITY EASEMENT, A PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS THE LONG NARROW ONE THAT'S COLORED YELLOW OR SOME SORT OF ORANGE ACTUALLY.
UM, THE OTHERS, THE RED AND THE GREEN ARE EXISTING EASEMENTS THAT VETCO CAN USE, OR ARE THEY ALREADY TO GET TO HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION? AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE AT THE TOP THERE WHERE IT IS LABELED HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION, OR THE TRIANGLE IS P S IN A PUMP STATION.
UM, DOMINION ALREADY OWNS A RATHER SIGNIFICANT POWER LINE EASEMENT.
UM, THAT GOES TO THE SOUTH OF THOSE PARCELS ON, ON, UH, ON COBBLE STONE, WHICH IS THE, THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH, WHICH CEASES, UM, IT TERMINATES THAT ROADS, THE PAGE PORTION OF THAT ROAD, SOMEWHAT SHY OF THAT LONG ORANGE STRIP, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
SO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS CROSS OVER THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, THE ONE, AS FAR
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AS YOU KNOW, THAT POSSIBLY WAS, IT WAS OWNED BY THE SMITH ESTATE IN THE, IN THE PLACE WHERE THAT SMALL BLUE SQUARE IS, AND THEN THEY CAN CROSS OVER TO EASEMENTS THAT THEY ALREADY OWN AND RUN ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PUMP STATION.THEY JUST HAVE TO CROSS THAT, THAT PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY HAS.
IN FACT, AS MS. RADER INDICATES BEEN SHOWN ON OUR TAX MAPS AND OUR PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM FOR YEARS AS HAVING BEEN OWNED BY PERCY SMITH, HER FATHER, UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHEN HE PASSED AWAY IN 2001, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, BY, UM, BY HIS ESTATE.
AND WHEN I ASKED FOR A TITLE REPORT ON IT, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS DIFFICULTY IN DETERMINING THE DEED BY WHICH HE ACQUIRED IT.
SO MR. HILL AND I CONDUCTED OUR OWN TITLE SEARCH.
AND, AND WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THAT THIS, THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS IT'S STILL SHOWN AND TAXED IN THE NAME OF THE ESTATE OF PERCY SMITH, UM, THE TUNE OF PROBABLY AROUND $20 A YEAR IN CURRENT TAX RATES AND CURRENT ASSESSMENTS, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE PRECISELY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES OF WHAT PERCY SMITH USED TO OWN GOES, AND WHETHER IT INCLUDED THIS ROAD, WHAT WE DISCOVERED WAS THAT THE SUBDIVISION LINES FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS ON EITHER SIDE AND ONE OF THEM IS, UM, VINEYARD HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION.
I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ONE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THAT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE IS COBBLE CREEK SUBDIVISION.
UH, PERCY SMITH CLEARLY OWNED THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOW COBBLE CREEK SUBDIVISION WHEN HE SOLD IT.
I THINK IT WAS TWO ATLANTIC HOMES.
THE, THE, THE PROPERTY LINE SHOWN IN THE PLANT BY WHICH HE SOLD.
SO EITHER HE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY OWNED IT OR, OR HE KNEW THAT HE DIDN'T, UM, THE WAY THAT ROAD SHOWS UP ON SEVERAL OF THESE SUBDIVISION PLACE, HUGELY THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY SHOWS UP ON SEVERAL OF THESE.
SO DIVISION PLATS IS SOMETHING CALLED OLD FREE ROAD.
AND IT WENT ALL THE WAY FROM PENNIMAN ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY BELOW WHERE THIS MAP SHOWS ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE COLONIAL PARKWAY IS NOW AND POSSIBLY BEYOND IT.
EXCEPT I HAVEN'T FOUND A MAP THAT GOES THAT FAR.
NOW IT'S ONLY A SEGMENT OF THAT, OH, THE OLD FREE ROAD.
AND IT DOESN'T LEAD TO, OR FROM ANYTHING, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE THAT IT CONNECTS WITH PLANET COBBLESTONE, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T THE BIG PORTION, DOESN'T GO THAT FAR.
SO, UM, NOW THE OLD TAX MAPS FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH ALSO LABEL IT AS OLD FREE ROAD, GIVE IT A TAX MAP DESIGNATION, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT AT LEAST SOMEBODY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IN FACT PART OF THE LARGER PARCEL THAT PERCY SMITH OWNED.
SO THAT DOES, THAT DOES TEND TO SUGGEST THAT IN FACT, IT WAS PERCY SMITH'S PROPERTY AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY, THIS LONG ROAD WAS GIVEN A TAX MAP, PARCEL 51, THE COBALTS THE, WHAT IS NOW A COBBLE CREEK SUBDIVISION WAS PARCEL 51.
AND THAT DESIGNATION SUGGEST RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY THAT SOMEBODY CONCLUDED THAT THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE SAME PARCEL AT ONE TIME.
NOW THE PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT IT IS AN OLD ROAD AND SOME OF THE MAPS TO SOME OF THE SUBDIVISION MAPS FOR THESE PARCELS.
UM, AND, AND OTHER, BY THE WAY, OTHER MAPS THAT NOT NECESSARILY CREATING SUBDIVISIONS, UM, SHOW IT AS SOMETHING SEPARATE, POSSIBLY AS SOMETHING SEPARATE OLD FREE ROAD.
NOW WITH AN OLD ROAD LIKE THIS, WE DO ENCOUNTER THEM PERIODICALLY.
UM, AND, UH, AND, AND, AND WHEN WE NEED TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS OVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND PERIODICALLY IT DOES HAPPEN EITHER WE GO TO CONDEMNATION AGAINST UNKNOWN OWNERS, OR THERE HAVE BEEN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHORTCUT THAT BY GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE.
WE THINK THAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED ALL OF THE POSSIBLE OWNERSHIP, INTEREST ASSIGNED DEEDS OR QUICK CLAIM DEEDS AND TAKE CARE OF IT THAT WAY.
SO I, I'M NOT SAYING RIGHT NOW THAT THE COUNTY'S ONLY APPROACH GOING FORWARD TO, TO ACCOUNT A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR ALL OWNERSHIP, INTERESTS IS TO FILE A CONDEMNATION.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO DO.
WE WILL EXPLORE FURTHER TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE FURTHER DETERMINE WHETHER THIS WAS A PIECE OF A LARGER PARCEL OWNED BY PERCY SMITH, IN WHICH CASE, THE DEED THAT MS. RAIDERS SAYS SHE'S WILLING TO SIGN AND TAKES CARE OF IT.
UM, OR W WE'LL WE'LL POSSIBLY APPROACH OTHERS.
AND MAYBE FOR A NOMINAL SUM, SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SIGN A QUICK CLAIM DEED, AND WE'D JUST BE DONE WITH IT, NONETHELESS, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WANTS TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE I HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE TO SOMEBODY I'M NOT.
UM, UM, BEFORE, UM, WE CAN FILE A CONDO.
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OF DEPOSIT IS WHAT IT'S CALLED THAT SAYS WE OWN IT.NOW, WE JUST HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHO TO PAY, HOW MUCH TO PAY OTHER OWNERS.
UM, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S THE AUTHORITY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
I'VE TOLD MS. RADER, AND THIS IS TRUE THAT IF SHE HAS SETTLED WITH US, IN FACT, IF SHE FINDS THE SIZE OF THE EASEMENT DEED THAT SHE HAS INDICATED TO ME, SHE'S WILLING TO SIGN AND ACCEPT THE PRICE THAT WE'VE OFFERED, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY JUST SIGNIFICANTLY IN EXCESS OF THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR THE EASEMENT ONLY HAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
UM, THEN, UM, THEN IF I EVER DO HAVE TO FILE A CONDEMNATION OF PETITION, IT WOULD ONLY BE AGAINST ANY UNKNOWN PEOPLE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT CLAIM SOME INTEREST, NOT IN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, BUT, BUT JUST IN THE PIECE THAT WE WANT FOR AN EASEMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE, THE PETITION ITSELF COULD SAY, WE HAVE ALREADY SETTLED WITH MS. MS. WRITER.
SHE DOES NOT NEED TO BE PART OF THIS.
I'M HAPPY TO KEEP HER INFORMED IN CASE SHE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, BUT WE DID DISCOVER BY THE WAY, JUST IN CASE, YOU'RE CURIOUS IF YOU EVER SEE THE DEED AND WONDER WHY IT'S PHRASED THAT WAY, HER FATHER DIED AS BEST WE CAN TELL WITHOUT A WILL.
SHE SAYS THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
THAT MEANS EVERYTHING WENT TO HIS WIFE, EDITH WHO DIED A FEW YEARS LATER, SHE LEFT A WILL.
AND THAT WILL LEFT EVERYTHING INTO A FAMILY TRUST OF WHICH MS. RADER IS THE CURRENT TRUSTEE, SO SHE CAN SIGN THE DEED AS TRUSTEE OF THIS FAMILY TRUST.
UM, SO I MEAN, SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF LITTLE SURPRISES THAT WE FOUND AFTER, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE LAST TIME WHEN WE DECIDED WE'D BETTER, LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT NOTHING WE DO IS AN ATTEMPT TO AFFECT TITLE TO THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN OUR ABILITY, OR DOMINION'S ABILITY TO ACQUIRE THAT EASEMENT IN THAT BLUE SQUARE AND RUN A POWER LINE ACROSS IT.
AND THEN UP TO THE, UP TO THE PARCEL, IF THERE ARE TITLE ISSUES WITH HIS PROPERTY, WE DIDN'T CREATE THEM.
AND NOTHING WE DO IS GONNA MAKE THEM GO AWAY.
UM, AND IN FACT, IF MS RADER OR THROUGH THE TRUST EVER DECIDES TO SELL THIS PIECE AND WHICH CASE PROBABLY HER BEST BET WOULD BE TO PARCEL IT UP AND SEE IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO ADD IT TO THEIR BACKYARDS, SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO CONFRONT THESE TITLE ISSUES.
IF THEY EXIST, SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO PROVE THAT SHE OR THE TRUST ACTUALLY OWNS IT.
AND THEN SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME RIGMAROLE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO THE SATISFACTION OF COURT.
SO, UM, I MEAN, ONE THING WE COULD DO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE TIME, TAKE TIME AND MORE MONEY WOULD BE TO HIRE A SURVEYOR TO GO OVER THAT WHOLE AREA AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE OLD PLANTS.
SOME OF WHICH ARE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO READ AND TO SEE IF IN FACT THIS WAS PART OF PERCY SMITH'S OF PROPERTY, THAT THE PROCEDURES I'M TALKING ABOUT SOUND COMPLICATED, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT.
UM, AND THAT ONCE WE ACTUALLY FILED A CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT, IF ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE WAY WE GO, THE COUNTY OWNS THE EASEMENT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE COURT WILL DECIDE IF, IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE WHO CLAIMS, IF NOT, THEN WE'RE DONE.
AND IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT SHARE OF THE APPRAISED VALUE OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO IT.
UM, SO I'M JUST CROSSING THE T DOTTING.
AND I, UM, IN MY FORMER LIFE, BEFORE I CAME HERE AND I HANDLE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE CLOSINGS IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, THE FIRM I WAS WITH, UH, OLD ROADS LIKE THIS EXISTED IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY.
WHY DON'T WE TRACED IT? ACTUALLY, THERE WAS AN OLD TOBACCO ROAD PRE-CIVIL WAR ACROSS THEIR CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
AND TITLE COMPANIES WILL RAISE ISSUES ON THESE THINGS.
UM, UH, THEY'LL MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR, FOR THE POSSIBLE RIGHTS OF OTHERS OR TO HAVE PASSAGE OR OWNERSHIP IN THE OLD ROAD.
I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP THAT UP.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT JIM, LET ME SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY TWO QUESTIONS THAT I THINK HOPEFULLY ADDRESSES MS.
ACTUALLY, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT CAN GO FORWARD.
DOMINION IS HAPPY IS FILE THE CERTIFICATE AND THAT PROJECT, THAT PROCESS, AS SOON AS WE CAN.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR AN AD IN THE PAPER AND A NOTICE OF PUBLICATION ORDER PUBLICATION TO SAY ANYBODY ELSE WHO CLAIMS AN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY, SUCH THAT YOU ARE ENTITLED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THIS EASEMENT, ONLY THIS EASEMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
AND IF YOU DON'T DO IT, THEN YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT AND THERE'S NO CLAIM.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THAT UP IN A SECOND, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PROPOSAL IS ONLY TO ESTABLISH AN EASEMENT AND THE COUNTY IS NOT TRYING TO BUY THIS LITTLE LAST.
SO THEY SAID IT WOULD STILL BE UNDER THE TRUST THAT THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ESTABLISHED IN IF SHE WANTS TO SELL IT LATER.
SO IT'S STILL ONE CONTINUOUS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SHE WOULD JUST HAVE A POWER LINE ACROSS MY LITTLE PIECE OF IT.
CAUSE ANYBODY PROBLEMS, AS WE SAID, AS WE SAID BEFORE, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED AND CLOSE.
SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I'LL MOVE
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A PROPOSED RESOLUTION.THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 7 TO ENTER UPON AND TAKE A CERTAIN PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT WITH THEIR HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION REHABILITATION PROJECT.
MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. ZAREMBA, MR. GREEN.
I WANT TO JUST SAY ONE THING BEFORE I VOTE.
I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN OVER BACKWARDS IN WORKING WITH THE, UH, APP.
WELL, THE, THE LANDOWNER AND I THINK, UH, THAT IT SHOULD BE COMMENDED AND OFTEN VOTE.
NO, THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE I VOTED.
YES FOR, BUT OFTEN VOTE NO ON THESE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS AND I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S A FAIR PROCESS AND THE AMOUNT I THINK HERE, THE AMOUNT IS A FAIR AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB IN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING IF MS. RADER HAS ANY QUESTIONS TO ME, OBVIOUSLY I'LL CONTINUE TO ANSWER THOSE.
THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONSIDER THE
[4 Amend York County Code Section 9-21.1, Central Absentee Voter Precincts. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 22-13 to amend Code Section 9-21.1 of the York County Central Absentee Voter Election Precinct Ordinance to bring it into conformance with the York County code by updating references to code section pertaining to satellite office and central absentee voter election precinct.]
ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 22 DASH 13, TO AMEND THAT YORK COUNTY CODE SECTION NINE DASH 21 DASH ONE.AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CENTRAL ABSENTEE VOTING PRECINCTS BECAUSE WE NEED TO AMEND THE COUNTY CODE.
AND THIS IS YOURS ALSO, MR. BARNETT.
UM, WHEN WE RECENTLY REDISTRICTED, YOU REMEMBER, OF COURSE WE DO THIS EVERY 10 YEARS.
UM, AND WE TOOK A COPY OF THE COUNTY'S CURRENT ORDINANCE.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD THAT DESCRIBES THE MEETS AND BOUNDS OF THE PRECINCTS AND OF THE DISTRICTS AND SO FORTH INCLUDED IN, IT WAS AN OLDER VERSION OF THAT CODE SECTION, THAT COUNTY CODE SECTION, WHICH CREATED TO ABSENTEE VOTER LOCATIONS.
AND WE HAD INADVERTENTLY OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT WE'D HAD AN OLDER VERSION, WHICH ONLY MADE A REFERENCE TO ONE OF THEM.
SO WE WANT THERE TO REMAIN TWO ABSENTEE VOTER PRECINCTS.
SO WE ARE SIMPLY UNDOING AN ERROR AND, AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, INSERTING THAT LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS TO ABSENTEE VOTER PRECINCT LOCATIONS IN YOUR COUNTY.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD, IF NOT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WHO CARES TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE, SEE NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD WE'LL CALL PLEASE? THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH 13, TO AMEND THE YORK COUNTY CENTRAL ABSENTEE VOTER ELECTION PRECINCT ORDINANCE.
[5 Grande Oak. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-125 to approve the issuance of revenue bonds by the Harrisonburg Redevelopment and Housing Authority to provide financing assistance for the construction of the previously approved Grande Oak housing development at 6300 Old Mooretown Road.]
PUBLIC HEARING IS PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 25 GRAND OAK TO APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS TO PROVIDE FINANCING ASSISTANCE FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED GRANT OAK HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.SO TWO OCCASIONS IN 2015 AND 2019 APPROVED THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS A TAXABLE AGE, RESTRICTED INCOME LIMITED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS, UH, BEEN WORKING TO GET HER FINANCING.
UH, THERE WAS A RATHER COMPLICATED AND HARD TO UNDERSTAND PROCESS WITH THE, UH, THE STATE AND, UM, ONE OF THE THREE PHASES OF THIS APPROXIMATELY 150 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE SITE PLAN OF WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN ILLUSTRATED HERE BEHIND WILLIAMSBURG SYNTERA HOSPITAL.
UH, PART OF HER FINANCING INVOLVED, UH, THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS FROM THE HARRISONBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY.
YOU MIGHT WONDER WHY THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
UM, AND IN THE WORLD OF, UM, THE HDA, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, REVENUE BONDS ISSUED BY HOUSING AUTHORITIES ARE ONE OF THE WAYS THE FINANCING IS COBBLED TOGETHER.
AND SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY AND DEVELOPER NEEDED TO GO TO SOME OTHER COMMUNITY TO GET THAT.
SO FOR WHATEVER REASONS IN HISTORY, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS RELATED TO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAND USE, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITE PLAN HAS TO DO WITH THE FINANCING.
UH, THERE'S NO LIABILITY FROM THE COUNTY.
THERE'S NO MONEY FROM THE COUNTY.
AND SO WE WERE, UH, HOLDING THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS CONCURRENTLY.
AND ONE ASKED THE QUESTION, DO WE BELIEVE, UH, THERE IS A NEED FOR, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED AGE, RESTRICTED
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HOUSING IN YOUR COUNTY.AND THE SECOND ONE IS, ARE WE OKAY WITH THE HARRISONBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY ISSUING THE REVENUE BOND FOR THE DEVELOPER FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE THIRD OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS TECHNICALLY WHAT SHE CALLS PHASE TWO.
AND QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WE'RE, WE'VE GOT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO THE SAME RESOLUTION.
WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, UH, NEIL, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PROJECT WAS BEHIND THE CENTERA HOSPITAL YET.
CAN YOU CLARIFY, BECAUSE THAT'S OLD MORE TOWN ROAD, I MEAN, BEHIND THE HOSPITAL IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT ON THE MAIN MORE TOWN ROAD, THE ACCESS, UH, IS FROM ALL MORE TOWN ROAD, BASICALLY RIGHT UNDER, AFTER YOU COME UNDER THE 1 99 BRIDGE.
WAS THERE ANY ARGUMENT WITH, UH, I DON'T RECALL, BUT, UH, UH, WAS THIS HOUSING FOR HOSPITALS STAFF OR NO, THIS IS SPECTACLES.
NOW THIS IS, THIS IS AGE RESTRICTED, UH, 55 AND UP NO ONE UNDER 19 ALLOWED TO BE IN THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE USE PERMIT IN 2015.
AND THEN AGAIN, AND I BELIEVE 2019.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT PER SE.
DO WE ON THIS ONE? NO, THE COUNTIES.
SO, UH, ABBOTT WOULD ALL IS HERE IS OUR EXPERT ON HOUSING AND I DON'T KNOW ABBOTT IF MS. SERBER IS HERE.
SO MS. SERBER, THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY IS HERE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF THEY CARRY IT, IF THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SHE MAY, IF SHE DOESN'T, WE'LL CONTINUE WHEN OPEN, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM CHAIR THERE W TO CLARIFY THAT YOU MIGHT, UH, UH, INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT THE FIRST, THEY REALLY ARE TWO SUBJECTS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS, UH, IS THERE AN, IS THERE A NEED FOR, UM, UH, UH, SENIOR HOUSING, LOW, I THINK, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF THIS VARIETY IN YOUR COUNTY.
UH, AND THEN SECONDLY IS WHETHER OR NOT THE SECOND QUESTION IN WHICH YOU WOULD THEN HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK TO YOU SEPARATELY IS WHETHER OR NOT, UM, APPROVAL SHOULD BE GRANTED TO THE, UM, UH, UH, TO THE, UH, HARRISONBURG REDEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AUTHORITY TO ISSUE BONDS, TO HELP WITH THE FINANCE PROJECT.
I WILL OPEN THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE NEED, IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE AT PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL OPEN THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, SHOULD WE APPROVE THAT THE BOND BE GRANTED BY THE HARRISONBURG JURISDICTION? C NOBODY.
I WILL CLOSE AT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE DO THAT REAL QUICK, UH, WE AT THE PROPOSAL IS JUST FOR US TO, TO CONSIDER THE BOND, OR WE ALSO CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF THE NEED BECAUSE IT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED BACK IN 2015.
I BELIEVE YOUR RESOLUTION ACTUALLY ADOPTS, UH, EXCUSE ME, ADDRESSES BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING CONCURRENT HEARINGS HERE.
I'LL MOVE RESOLUTION 22 DASH ONE TWO FIVE.
MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSE RESOLUTION ARE 22, 1 25 TO APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS TO PROVIDE FINANCING ASSISTANCE AT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED GRANT OAK HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY, UH, BETWEEN WATERTOWN ROAD AND OMAR TOWN ROAD, THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAST DECADE, AND IT'S ABOUT THOSE ROADS ARE UNSAFE THE WAY THEY ARE AND NOTICE THIS PROJECT, LIKE EVERY OTHER PROJECT UP IN THE UPPER COUNTY, DOESN'T HAVE A THING TO DO WITH WIDENING, IMPROVING THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THOROUGHFARE TRUTHS, THE UPPER COUNTY, MAINLY MORE TOWN ROAD, OLD TOWN ROAD.
SO I KNOW HOW LONG WE HAD A GOOD DEAL ALLOWING VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION.
NOW WE WILL KNOW THAT, AND YET WE CONTINUE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN AT THE SAME KIND OF A MANNER.
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MR. SHEPHERD.NOW, FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SITTING HERE, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN, UM, CONSIDER
[6 Proposed Vacation of Sycamore Lane, and a Portion of Platted Boundary Road. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-90 pursuant to Code of Virginia Section 15.2-2006 vacating the public right of way over Sycamore Lane, and over a portion of Boundary Road near its terminus, in York County, Virginia.]
THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 90, UH, VACATION OF SYCAMORE LANE, AND A PORTION OF THE PLATTER BOUNDARY ROAD TO VACATE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OVER SYCAMORE LANE AND A PORTION OF BOUNDARY ROAD.SO, UH, HEATHER, JUST PUT UP A MAP THAT KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THE SITUATION.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A, UH, CONFLICT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
MANY OF THE STAFF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN MEETINGS TRYING TO, UH, MITIGATE OR FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS, UH, WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, WERE, UH, UH, BUT, UH, A LARGE PIECE OF NATIONAL PARK SERVICE PROPERTY.
AND IN THE CASE OF THE TWO 90 DEGREE ANGLE PIECES OF WHAT IS CALLED BOUNDARY ROAD AND SYCAMORE LANE, UH, THOSE ARE NOT V DOT MAINTAINED ROADS.
THEY ARE OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND HAVE PAVEMENT ON THEM.
AT LEAST IN ONE INSTANCE WAS PROBABLY PUT THERE AS PART OF THE INSTALLATION OF A SEWER LINE MANY YEARS AGO.
SO THEY HAVE THE STATUS OF PRIVATE ROADS, REAL ESTATE OWNED BY THE COUNTY, BUT NOT PUBLIC ROADS MAINTAINED BY V.IN UP TO V DOT STANDARDS.
AT LEAST FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE MAJOR QUESTION HAS BEEN, UH, IS IT A GOOD THING FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS TO CROSS THOSE TWO PIECES OF COUNTY OWNED THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE ROADS, UH, AND GO INTO THE LARGE PART OF THE PARK SERVICE PROPERTY.
AND IN SOME OF OUR MULTIPLE MEETINGS ON THIS, WE MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT.
AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU, UH, SHOWS YOU THAT THE PARK SERVICE IN WRITING HAS SAID, UH, THEY DO NOT WISH TO HAVE PEOPLE ACCESSING PARK SERVICE PROPERTY FROM THESE POINTS.
AND, UM, IN GENERAL, THE STAFF IS FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND BICYCLE ACCESS.
AND IN FACT, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PARK SERVICE ON OTHER, UH, BIKE TRAIL AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS AND OTHER PART OF THE COUNTY.
BUT, UM, WOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS, IN MY VIEW, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS, UM, NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING DOWN THOSE ROADS TO GO TO THE PARK SERVICE IN WRITING FROM THE PARK SERVICE.
UM, WE CAN'T REALLY CLOSE IT OFF PRACTICALLY THE PARK SERVICE ISN'T GOING TO DO IT.
AND SO THE PRACTICAL WAY WOULD BE TO CONVEY OUR INTEREST IN THESE WHAT LOOKED LIKE STREETS.
UH, BUT AREN'T V DOT MAINTAINED PUBLIC STREETS, UH, SPLIT IT DOWN THE CENTER LINE, UH, TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN SUBJECT TO A SUBDIVISION WHERE WE WOULD PICK UP THE NECESSARY EASEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SEWER, UH, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLOCK ACCESS OF THE PROPERTY IF THEY CHOSE TO, UM, IF THE PARK SERVICE WAS ENCOURAGING CONNECTIVITY AT THESE POINTS, WE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.
UH, BUT SINCE THEY ARE NOT ONE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHY ARE PEOPLE GOING DOWN THERE FOR WHAT PURPOSE? AND I THINK THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ARE, UH, IT IS REASONABLE FOR THEM TO ASK FOR THIS REMEDY.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, VACATE OUR INTERESTS IN THE SHADED PORTIONS OF THOSE, TO WHAT LOOKED LIKE ROADS, SHERIFF, I CAN MAKE ONE TECHNICAL CORRECTION.
UM, TH THIS PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED BACK BEFORE THE COUNTY EVER HAD A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
SO ACTUALLY WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THE DIRT, BUT THE PERSON WHO SUBDIVIDED PUTTING AN AFFIDAVIT TO RECORD SAYING ALL OF THESE STREETS ARE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC USE, AND THEY'VE BEEN USED BY THE PUBLIC.
SO THEY ACTUALLY ARE PUBLIC ROADS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE THE POWER EVEN WITHOUT OWNING THE DIRT TO VACATE THEM USING THE PROCEDURE THAT WE'VE USED BEFORE AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE NOW.
UM, AND SO THERE ACTUALLY IS A PRESUMPTION THAT UPON VACATION THAT THE BUDDING PROPERTY IS OWNED TO THE CENTER LINE.
AND, UH, I DID ASK THEM, AND BY THE WAY, THE OWNER OF A 1 0 1 BOUNDARY WOULD THEN OWN THAT WHOLE WIDTH, UM, WHERE IT SHOWN IN THE YELLOW AND, UH, MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS IS THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY THEY WISH TO DO IS TO CLAIM THAT OWNERSHIP.
AND I DID SUGGEST IT'S IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION,
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UM, THAT, UM, THE VACATION WOULD BE, UH, DEPENDENT UPON THEM SUBMITTING, UM, SUBDIVISION PLATS TO THE COUNTY TO SHOW THOSE ACTUAL LINES AND INCORPORATE THOSE PARCELS, THOSE PIECES OF THESE VACATED ROADS INTO THEIR LOTS.SO OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, UH, UH, MR. MORGAN SAID, BUT, BUT TECHNICALLY THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN THE DIRT AS IS TYPICALLY THE CASE WHEN, UH, WHEN A VACATION COMES BEFORE, BUT IT IS NOT, IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN ROAD, IT IS NOT, BUT THEY HAD NEVER ACCEPTED IT.
AND NOR HAVE WE, WE'VE NEVER DONE ANY RUN SEWER THAT WE DID RUN SEWER DOWN THESE ROADS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MR. BARNETT, IF, IF THIS GOES TO FRUITION AND IS PLANTED OUT, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT PROVISIONS ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT SAY THE OWNERS OF 2 0 1, UH, BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE OWNERS OF 1 0 2 AND 1 0 4, BECAUSE IT'S NOW THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WHAT, HOW DID, HOW DID, HOW WAS THAT PREVENTED? UM, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE.
UH, 2 0 1 IS RIGHT TO THE INTEREST OF SYCAMORE LANE.
WELL, 2 0 1 DOES, UH, BUT SYCAMORE LANE, THEY ARE ONE OF THE APPLICANTS TO ACTUALLY TO HAVE THE VACATION UPON VACATION.
THERE WOULD BE A PRESUMPTION THAT THEY OWN THEIR PIECE OF SYCAMORE LANE DO THE CENTER LINE.
SO, UH, UH, BUT THEN, SO WOULD 1 0 2 AND 1 0 4, 1 0 1, 3 AND FIVE OWN THEIR PORTIONS BY PRESUMPTION TO THE, TO THE CENTER LINE.
SO THE OWNER OF 2 0 1 WOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLOCK ACCESS TO THE OTHER OWNERS BECAUSE THEY WOULD OWN, THEY WOULD OWN THEIR PIECE.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE IS, UM, OF RECORD OF SOMETIME BACK A, UM, A MUTUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THESE OWNERS.
I THINK IT WAS PUT A RECORD SOMETIME AGO.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT THE CURRENT OWNERS OR OTHER WERE THE ONES WHO ALL SIGNED IT, BUT, UM, BUT THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE A RIGHT OF ACCESS AND EASEMENT JUST BY VIRTUE OF, UH, OF, OF LAW AND LONG-TERM USER TO THOSE OWNERS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY OWNER WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE BLOCK ACCESS TO ANY OF THE OTHER OWNERS.
ARE WE READY? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THEY DON'T BLOCK ACCESS, THEN, UH, SO WHAT'S THE VACATE.
THEY CAN'T BLOCK ACCESS TO ONE ANOTHER, SO 2 0 1 CAN'T PREVENT 1 0 4 FROM HAVING ACCESS TO HIS HOUSE.
AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ALREADY BY A MUTUAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY BOUND BY THAT PLUS, UM, THIS BECOMES KIND OF A COMMON LANE THERE.
IT BECOMES AN EFFECT, A COMMON DRIVEWAY FOR THOSE SIX, LOTS THAT FRONT OF THE PRIVATE COMMENT, BUT A PRIVATE COMMON DRIVEWAY.
NOW THEY CAN BLOCK IT OFF FOR OTHER PEOPLE FROM USING IT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE THAT.
THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS BETH POWELL.
AND I, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE 20 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP.
SO EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SHOULD BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES, IF YOU WOULD TAKE IT A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'D BE VERY GOOD.
AND IF SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS BEFORE YOU, UH, YOU AGREE WITH THE, YOU COULD JUST SAY THAT YOU AGREE WITH THEM AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.
SO LET'S START WITH BETH PALLY, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
ONLY POUND 1 0 5 SYCAMORE LANE.
PEOPLE WITH ME THAT ALL LIVE ON SYCAMORE LANE.
AND THEY'VE ALL GIVEN ME THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
I PREPARED A LITTLE DOCUMENT FOR Y'ALL AND IT BASICALLY OUTLINES EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO SAY.
IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THEM FINE.
IF YOU DON'T THEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE IN BATES.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, NANCY RICHTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRIDGET FOX.
YOU AGREE TO? NO, YOU DEALT WITH IT.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT HE JUST GOES FIRST? WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME IS HE SIGNED UP? I CANNOT HEAR YOU.
MY LAST NAME, FIRST NAME DANIEL.
HE SIGNED YOU UP THERE SOMEWHERE.
SHE ASKED IF HE COULD GO, OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, LET'S SAY IFAS, HERE IT IS.
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THIS IS AGAINST, I LIVE AT ONE 14 BOUNDARY ROAD.I RECENTLY CONTACTED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION ON FILED A COMPLAINT.
THE EDGE HILL COMMUNITY IS A ALL WHITE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS EXACT SCENARIO HAPPENED IN EDGE HILL.
THE PARK SERVICE, TOOK IT OVER.
IT'S STILL HAS A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? SO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF EDGE HILL IS ALLOWED TO USE THAT ACCESS.
AND RIGHT AFTER THOSE POSTS, THEY JET, RIGHT.
AND IT WAS A SHORT WALK TO THE TOUR ROAD AND THEY ENJOY RUNS EVERYTHING EVERY DAY.
SO DOWN IN THE OLD YORKTOWN, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COAST GUARD BASE ARE ALSO WHITE COMMUNITIES.
AND THEY HAVE UNRESTRICTED ACCESS TO THE PARK ON UNRESTRICTED ACCESS, FOOT TRAILS, FIELDS.
TOURO'S FREEDOM TO MOVE WHEREVER THEY WANT TO MARO BANK ALL CUT UP AND CROSS COOK ROAD, RIGHT UP TO SURRENDER ROPE.
AND THEY UTILIZE THE PARK SERVICE.
SO IN THE COMMUNITY I LIVE IN LACKEY IS A BLACK COMMUNITY.
CURRENTLY THE ONLY RESTRICTIONS BY THE PARK SERVICE RIGHT NOW ARE IN LACKEY AT THE END OF SYCAMORE LANE AND BOUNTY ROAD OF PUBLIC USE ROADS.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU.
THE ORIGINAL ROAD TO THIS COMMUNITY CAME FROM 2 38 TO THESE POINTS AND STILL PROBABLY HAS A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY ON THAT ROAD, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PARK SERVICE EVER VACATED THAT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? SO I ALSO FEEL THERE'S SOME SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN YOUR COUNTY GARDEN CLUB, YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, THAT RESULTED IN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF WORK ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN THEY WERE DOING WORKING HERE AND ENDED UP GETTING YORK COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS TO WRITE LETTERS INVOLVING EROSION AT THE END OF THE SYCAMORE AND BOUNDARY ROAD.
LIKE EVERYONE BEEN DOWN HERE KNOWS THAT THERE'S NO EROSION DOWN.
THERE ARE NO BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THERE.
SO THE FACT IS LIKE, IF THERE'S A NO FROM THE PARK SERVICE TODAY, THERE MIGHT NOT BE A NO IN 10 YEARS, EVERYONE'S GONNA DIE.
YOU COULD GET RID OF GREATNESS FOR LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS.
I KNEW BY THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY REFERRED THE CASE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ANY RACIST ISSUES THAT HAVE GONE ON HERE BECAUSE IT IS NOT RIGHT FOR A BLACK COMMUNITY TO SUFFER KNOW WHEN ALL THE WHITE COMMUNITIES HAVE, HAVE PURE ACCESS, JUST LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE TALKED TO THE PARK SERVICE AND THEY SPECIFICALLY TOLD ME I HAD THE RIGHT TO WALK ON BOUNDARY ROAD IN SECOND BOARD RAIN AND WALK ON IT.
SO THIS MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN WHO YOU SIGN OR YOU TALK TO, BUT I HAVE THAT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT, NO ONE'S GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME.
IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY AND IT SHOULD STAY A PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
AND IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FIX THIS PROBLEM.
OR BRIDGET FOX, WOULD YOU CARE TO SPEAK NOW? SO NOBODY'S HERE FROM THE PARK SERVICE, RIGHT? SO I LIVE ON FOUR 19 MAPLE ROAD.
I'VE LIVED IN YOUR COUNTY SINCE 1994.
AND, UM, WHEN MY OLDER SON WAS GOING TO YOUR HIGH SCHOOL, HE DIDN'T LIKE ALL THE BULLYING ON THE BUS.
HE STARTED RIDING HIS BICYCLE FROM LACKEY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT YEAR WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR HIM.
AND A FEW YEARS AGO I WAS GAINING SOME WEIGHT, YOU KNOW, BORDERING ON A LITTLE BIT OF DIABETES AND MY HUBBY WAS GETTING A LITTLE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE.
AND SO WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO GO BICYCLE, RIGHT? SO WE FOLLOWED MY SON'S EXAMPLE AND WE STARTED BICYCLING THE TOUR ROADS.
AND IT WAS JUST SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT HEALTHIER AND IT'S GOOD FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND THE BEST WAY FOR US IN LACKEY TO GET I'M GOING TO USE MY OWN MAP THE BEST WAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST SAID.
THE BEST WAY IS FIRST TO BICYCLE DOWN SPRING ROAD, GO DOWN TO THE END OF SYCAMORE.
AND THE HISTORICAL TOUR IS BACK THERE, BUT THERE'S AN OLD PATH THAT IS STILL EASILY VISIBLE, THAT COMES OFF OF THE ORIGINAL HISTORICAL TOUR, TOUCHES SYCAMORE, AND THEN REJOINS THE HISTORICAL TOUR AND THE PARK SERVICE.
FOR SOME REASON, IT'S DECIDED NOT TO MAINTAIN THAT, BUT THAT ROAD IS STILL THERE.
SO SYCAMORE ROAD ESSENTIALLY TOUCHES THIS OLD ROAD.
SO I NOTICED THAT NOT ONLY WE ARE ACCESSING THE TORODE SET WAY,
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BUT OTHER RESIDENTS OF LACKEY ARE ALSO ACCESSING THE TOUR ROAD.SO ONE DAY WE'RE COMING OFF OF OUR BICYCLE TOUR, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE FEELING REALLY GOOD AND WE'RE SWEATY.
AND, UH, AND WE HAD PASSED THE POLLS HOUSE MANY TIMES, WAVED, HOW ARE YOU DOING? AND ONE DAY THEY CONFRONTED US IN THE ROAD AND SAID, YOU'RE TRESPASSING.
I'M LIKE, WE DID NOT TRESPASS.
WE NEVER TOUCHED THEIR PROPERTY.
IS THERE A WAY TO GET THIS BACK? THE LITTLE SIGN? SO ANYWAYS, OH, THERE IT IS SO WE NEVER SET FOOT ON THE PALS PROPERTY.
SO WE WERE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAN.
AND THEN A WEEK LATER, WE'RE AGAIN, BICYCLING AGAIN, MR. POWELL INTERCEPTED US ON SYCAMORE ROAD AND THEN CALLED THE POLICE FOR TRESPASSING.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE TRESPASSING.
THIS IS A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THE NEXT TIME WE WENT, MR. POWELL HAD SECURITY CAMERAS AND ALL MY GOD, IT WAS SUCH A SCENE.
I JUST COULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT.
SO GRADUALLY WE'VE ALL STARTED USING THE BACK OF THE DAV PROPERTY.
I'M SORRY, THE VFW, WHICH HAS A PROPERTY HERE, THE VFW IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SOLD SOON, WHICH WILL ALSO PROBABLY 2030 PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THE VF W PROPERTY, WHICH WE'RE REALLY TRESPASSING ON.
THEY'VE JUST BEEN SO KIND TO LET US DO IT IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE HISTORICAL ROAD.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE, LESS THING TO SAY ON THAT.
WHAT IF I, A RESIDENT OF MAPLE ROAD WOULD DECIDE THAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO DRIVE DOWN MAPLE ROAD AND I'LL JUST PUT UP A BIG GATE AND STOP THE TRAFFIC ON MAPLE ROAD.
WHAT IF THE PEOPLE IN IT CHILL ON COCKLE TONE? WHAT DECIDE MRS. FOX? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELL, I FEEL THAT MR. POWELL IS TRYING TO GRAB LAND THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO HIM.
AND IN CASE YOUR COMMENTS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, NOW I HAVE SAMUEL FOX GROWINGS.
I LIVE IN FOUR 19 MAPLE ROAD, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA, I ON A MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM NAMED COLONIAL REVOLUTION.
AND I NEED TO PRACTICE TO KEEP MY ENDURANCE FOR RACES.
I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RIDE ON THE TOUR ROADS WHENEVER I WANT AS PART OF A RIGHT.
AND IF I RIDE ON OTHER ROADS WHERE THERE'S MORE CARS, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS FOR ME TO GET MAYBE HIT BY A CAR.
AND IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MOUNTAIN BIKING IN YORK RIVER STATE PARK, WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RIDE OUR BIKES IN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A HISTORICAL ROAD.
TRUSTED NAME AND ADDRESS JUSTIN.
UM, HI, MY NAME'S JASON IFAS AND I LIVE AT 104 BOUNDARY ROAD IN YORKTOWN.
MY FAVORITE THING TO DO GROWING UP WAS TO WALK OR RIDE BIKES ON THE TORAH AND PLAY POKEMON.
GO WITH MY FRIENDS, SAM AND PEYTON.
WE WOULD ALWAYS WALK THROUGH THE END OF SYCAMORE LANE BEFORE THE FENCES WERE PUT UP.
SAM'S MOM WOULD RIDE BIKES WITH US SO WE CAN MEET UP WITH OUR FRIEND AND AT HIS HOUSE AND CHILL AND GO SWIMMING AT THE POOL AND THEN RIDE BACK HOME THROUGH THE TOUR ROAD.
WE HAVE RODE OUR BIKES DOWN, DOWN TO YORKTOWN BEACH THROUGH THE TOUR ROAD TO WATCH THE FIREWORKS.
I KNOW HIGH SCHOOLERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RIDE BIKES TO AND FROM YORK HIGH SCHOOL ON THE TOUR ROAD.
AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE MY BIKE ON THE MAIN ROADS WITH THE HIGH SPEED LIMITS FOR CARS.
SO I HOPE THE FENCES WILL COME BACK DOWN TO, AND I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY THE NATURE AGAIN IN THIS AREA.
PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE FENCES AND KEEP THE PUBLIC ACCESS.
OKAY, RUTH, UH KLECKNER OH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD EVENING.
I'M RUTH KLECKNER AND MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE RECENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO PURCHASED 200 BOUNDARY ROAD WITH THE INTENT TO BUILD IT ON IT AS A RETIREMENT HOME AND A BIG DRIVING FORCE FOR US WAS THE ACCESS TO THE PARK AND TO BE ABLE TO JUST TAKE THE CARS OUT OF THE, OR THE DRIVE, THE BIKES OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY AND DOWN THE STREET AND HIT THE TURN ROADS AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WALKING AND HIKING, AND IT'S SUCH A WONDERFUL ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT WOULD BE JUST A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE SHAME TO LOSE IT.
I THINK THAT 1 7 0 8 BAPTIST ROAD.
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HELLO? MICHAEL MARSHALL.UH, YEAH, SAME THING RESONANT.
UH, I LOVE TOO, TOO CLOSE TO THE SHUT DOWN.
WE BUILT THIS RETIREMENT HOME ALSO WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE WERE RIGHT THERE BY THE PARKS HAD ACCESS TO THAT.
UM, AS A RETIRED DISABLED VETERAN, I HAVE LIFETIME ACCESS TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED AND DISMAYED THAT THE PARKS AREN'T DON'T WANT US TO ACCESS THEIR PARKS.
THEY'RE NOT DENYING WHICH YEAH.
IT'S NEWS TO ME, BUT YEAH, I DO HAVE ACCESS AND LIFETIME PASS TO IT.
SO YEAH, MUCH LIKE DAMN, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PARKS.
I'M HALEY CRANDALL AND I LIVE AT 2 0 8 SPRING ROAD.
UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE DECEMBER OF 2019.
WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.
UM, I'M ACTIVE DUTY AIR FORCE.
WE HAVE SIX CHILDREN TOGETHER.
WE'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 19 YEARS AND I LOVE VIRGINIA AND I AM NOT MOVING, WHICH IS WHY I'M RETIRING IN MARCH OF 2023.
UM, WE ARE JUST SO BLESSED TO HAVE, UM, THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY IN AND THESE WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS AND I, MY OLDEST IS 15 YEARS OLD AND HE GOES TO YORK HIGH SCHOOL AND MY YOUNGEST IS ONLY 15 MONTHS.
SO WITH THE AMAZING SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, I JUST, AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DRAG ME OUT, KICKING AND SCREAMING.
I'VE NEVER HAD ANY NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS WITH ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS.
AND I'M VERY BLESSED FOR THAT.
UH, JUST TO KIND OF HEAR, UM, THE TESTIMONY SO FAR TODAY, BUT MY REQUEST IS THAT MY 15 YEAR OLD, UM, IT'S NOT SAFE FOR US TO BE FOR THEM TO TAKE THE BUS, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL BUSES, WE'VE TAKEN UP THIS ISSUE WITH THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
UM, I HAVE TWO OF MY OLDEST CHILDREN, MY 15 YEAR OLD AND MY 12 YEAR OLD HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED ON THE SCHOOL BUSES.
AND THE ONLY SAFE WAY FOR THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL RIGHT NOW IS BY TAKING THE TOUR ROAD.
WE'RE BLESSED THAT THE VFW HAS ALLOWED US PERMISSION TO USE THEIR ACCESS SO THAT WE CAN SAFELY TAKE THE TOUR ROADS ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS YOU'VE HEARD, THEY'RE PLANNING TO SELL, UH, VERY SOON AND WE WILL LOSE THAT PRIVATE ACCESS.
UM, I ASKED FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS PLANS TO STAY HERE IN VIRGINIA, IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE ROADS SPECIFICALLY, MY CONCERN IS FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN TO NOT HAVE TO BE ON THE BUSY YORKTOWN OLD WILLIAMSBURG ROAD TO TRY TO GET OVER TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU, LEAH CLOCK AND I'M LEAH CLARK.
UM, MY BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THIS IS MY HUSBAND.
I ARE AVID BIKE RIDERS AND IT'S A SAFETY FEATURE FOR ME BECAUSE WHEN I'M RIDING BY MYSELF, I ALSO, DON'T LIKE TO RIDE OUT ON 2 38.
I FEEL THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD FOR BIKE RIDERS, AND I CAN TAKE ALL THE BACK ROADS FROM NANCY COURT ALL THE WAY DOWN AND HIT THAT SYCAMORE LANE SAFELY GET INTO THE PARK SERVICE.
I CAN RIDE 20, 25 MILES MYSELF.
MY HUSBAND AL THERE'S LIKE FIVE NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE AREN'T CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS FOR ANYBODY.
WE JUST WANT TO BE SAFE ON THE ROADS WHEN WE RIDE.
I AM RUTH HAMMONS 1 0 7 NANCY COURT.
UM, I HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, LISTENING TO EVERYBODY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST HAD NO CLUE.
I REALLY ASSUME THESE WERE PUBLIC ROADS WE'RE ALLOWED TO RIDE ON THESE.
MY SECOND THING WAS, I JUST HAD NO IDEA THAT THE PARK SERVICE IS NOT SUPPORTING, UM, TO HAVE THAT AS AN ACCESS WAY TO GET INTO THE TOUR ROADS.
UM, AS A PE TEACHER, I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO HEAR THESE KIDS COME UP AND TALK AND, AND LOVED TO RIDE, AND THEY NEED A SAFE PLACE TO RIDE AS WELL TO ACCESS IT.
UM, I TOO, I DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING ON THE 2 38 TO GET TO THE, UM, TOUR ROAD IS JUST NOT REALLY SAFE TO BE OUT THERE.
UM, AND THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE WERE OUT RIDING WHEN WE WERE DOWN.
I THINK IT WAS SYCAMORE LANE WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED ALSO, UM, WITH THE OWNER OF THE HOME, I GUESS, CAME OUT AND TOLD US WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
AND I JUST I'M LIKE, THIS IS A PUBLIC STREET.
I DIDN'T REALIZE I CAN'T EVEN RIDE ON THIS STREET.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE TOO ARE VERY THANKFUL THAT I THINK IT'S THE VFW ALLOWS US TO GO BACK THERE, BUT HONESTLY, THEY'RE JUST BEING NICE DOING THIS.
UM, SO, UM, I'M HERE TO WANT SAFETY TO GET
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INTO THE TOUR ROAD AS WELL.THANK YOU, LINWOOD GUNS, IF I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT? YES.
MY NAME IS LINWOOD GOINGS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOUR 19 MAPLE ROAD BRIDGES, MY WIFE AND SAM'S MY SON, THEY SPOKE AND WERE A FAMILY OF BICYCLERS, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE BREAD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A HEALTH THING THAT I DO, YOU KNOW, TO STAY IN SHAPE AND STUFF AND, AND IT, AND IT REALLY FEELS GOOD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY THE PARK SERVICE WOULDN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EROSION PURPOSES, WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE THE SAME EROSION THING AT THE VETERANS BUILDING OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S AN ACCESS TO, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE WERE BICYCLING DOWN SYCAMORE LANE FOR YEARS AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, IN CUTTING THROUGH THERE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE DISTURBANCE STARTED HAPPENING WHERE THE PALS WERE SCREAMING AT US AND CALLED THE POLICE AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THE POLICE CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE WITH THEM AND THEY DOCUMENTED THAT I WAS TRESPASSING AND, AND I WASN'T TRESPASSING ANYWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A RESIDENT OF YORK COUNTY HAD BEEN FOR MY WHOLE LIFE, YOU KNOW, MY HARD WORK AND TAX PAYING GUY AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T DO ANYTHING WRONG TO ANYBODY.
AND I JUST HIGHLY OBJECT TO THEM CLOSING THESE ROADS OFF.
THANK YOU, STEVEN BLAIR THANK YOU, JACK LASSETER.
JACK CLASS SITTER FIVE 13 CHURCH ROAD, NEW YORK COUNTY TEACHER.
SO OF COURSE I WANT ACCESS, BUT I THINK A POINT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT THE FACT THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE DOESN'T ENCOURAGE US TO COME THROUGH THAT WAY.
I THINK OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD HAVE TELL US THAT THEY WOULD NEVER IN WRITING SAY YEAH, COME THROUGH THERE.
CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S OPENING UP A LOT.
THE TRUTH IS, AND THE EFFECT IS THAT THEY ALLOW ACCESS AROUND THE ENTIRE PARK.
I COME THROUGH A DIFFERENT WAY THROUGH THE, UH, THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE IS DOWN, BUT I COME THROUGH THE, THE, UH, THE FIRE ROAD ON MY END OF LACKEY.
AND IF A PARK SERVICE PERSON, LIKE ONE TIME IT WAS CLOSED ON CHRISTMAS AND HE'S LIKE, OH, YOU GOT TO LEAVE AND SAY, OKAY, CAN I COME UP? YOU KNOW, JUST GO OUT MY WAY I LEAVE UP HERE.
IT'S LIKE, YEAH, SURE, NO PROBLEM.
THEY DO NOT THEM NOT SAYING OFFICIALLY IN WRITING.
I DON'T THINK HAS VERY LITTLE BEARING.
IT'S MORE LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE TAKING THESE COUNTY ROADS, THE COUNTY YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR WORRYING ABOUT THE NATIONAL PART, BUT WHAT ALL YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS JUST ALLOWING ACCESS TO THE END OF SYCAMORE LANE AND BACK.
IT SEEMS LIKE ALSO A LOT OF TENSION AND BACK AND FORTH.
IT'D BE NICE NOT TO HAVE IT SETTLED FOREVER TONIGHT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT, WHICH WE COULD PUT IT ON ICE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
IT'S ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM THIS.
UM, I MOVED TO YORK COUNTY IN 2014.
I'VE HAD TWO KIDS IN YOUR COUNTY.
AND PART OF THE REASON WE BUILT WHERE WE DID IS BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL PARKS AROUND US.
UM, WE GET TO ENJOY NEWPORT NEWS PARK, OBVIOUSLY NOT IN YOUR COUNTY.
UM, BUT I HAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD AND A SEVEN YEAR OLD.
AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THESE ACCESSES AND I WOULD, WHEN MY KIDS GET STRONGER, IT'S VERY HEARTWARMING FOR ME TO HEAR THESE YOUNG MEN TALK ABOUT USING THOSE ROADS.
I HOPE MY GIRLS CAN USE THESE ROADS, UM, TO TRANSVERSE AND FOR US TO ENJOY.
I'M AN AVID RUNNER AND THIS IS A GREAT, SAFE ACCESS POINT FOR ME TO GET IN LOTS OF MILES.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT GETTING IN MY CAR.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA GET IN YOUR CAR AND GO SOMEWHERE TO GET THOSE MILES.
SO, UM, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS CONSIDERING KEEPING THEM UP.
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HEY, HOW YOU GUYS DOING IT? I'M TRAVIS SNYDER.UH, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY, UM, DAN'S, UH, HE HE'S MY LANDLORD.
UM, WE, MY WIFE AND I AND TWO CHILDREN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE INTENTION OF MOVING SHORTLY.
SO, UM, IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO INVEST IN THIS IF I REALLY DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LIVE THERE, UH, IN THAT AREA.
HOWEVER, UM, I HAD SOME OTHER STUFF TO SAY, BUT BASED OFF FROM THE, I GUESS THE LEGALITIES OF THIS, I WOULD ASK.
UM, SO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IS SAYING THAT THERE'S A HIGH CORROSION RISK AND THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON BOUNDARY ROAD IN SYCAMORE LANE, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN HALF OF THE ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? AM I ASSUMING THAT CORRECTLY OR WOULD THE, WOULD THE COUNTY FIX ANY ISSUES WITH THE ROAD OR WOULD THAT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FOLKS ON BOUNDARY ROAD AND SYCAMORE LANE? WELL, IF THIS PASSES, THE ROAD WOULD GO AWAY AND THE LAND WOULD GO TO THE HOMEOWNERS ON EITHER SIDE.
WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MANY COMPLAINTS HAVE YOU GUYS GOT FROM THE INDIVIDUALS ON SYCAMORE LANE AND BOUNDARY ROAD THAT THE ROADS HAVE ERODED? UM, AND IT NEEDS FIX BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S AN EROSION RISK, RIGHT AT THE END OF BOUNDARY OR SYCAMORE LANE THAT THEY'RE BASING OFF FROM A HISTORY OF EROSION WITHIN THE ROAD.
AND IF THAT'S NOT V DOT MAINTAINED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UH, SOME OF THE STORMS WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE PAST YEAR, THAT THERE WOULD BE QUITE A BIT OF EROSION ALREADY EXISTING.
UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A QUESTION NECESSARILY FOR YOU GUYS, IT'S JUST KIND OF A POINT.
AND, UM, SO MY LAST THING WOULD BE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. POWELL ACTUALLY HELPED ME WHEN I FIRST GOT IN THERE.
HE HELPED US PUT IN A, UM, AN ELECTRIC FENCE FOR MY DOG.
UM, HAD NO ISSUES WITH HIM THE NEXT TIME I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAD A RUN IN WITH HIM, MY WIFE AND I HAD JUST COME OUT OF THERE.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE COULD WALK THERE.
AND, UM, UH, HE, HE TOLD US VERBATIM, THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU'LL, YOU'LL WALK THROUGH HERE.
I ASKED WHAT AGAIN, SAME THING.
UM, WHATEVER HAPPENS, WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE, IT'S THE LAW, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THE DECISION BASED OFF OF THE LAW.
AND I RESPECT THAT IT'S, WHAT'S MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT, BUT ANOTHER THING THAT'S MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT IS NEIGHBORLY LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHUT EACH OTHER OFF IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.
AND THERE'S, I MEAN, YOU SAW EVERYBODY HERE, WHO'S POSING A DANGER TO ANYBODY ON THAT LANE.
IT'S KIDS AND FAMILIES THAT ARE USING THIS TO GO TO A NATIONAL PARK TRAIL.
MAYBE I DON'T, MAYBE I'M JUST TOO COMMON SENSE BASED, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD.
SO I JUST WANT TO GET A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
HOW LONG HAS HE WROTE THIS OR DOWN THIS? THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF A, LIKE A STUB STREET IN FULLY DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, AND IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAD LITERALLY, UH, TOOK IT OUT OF THE ROAD SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, SOME CONNECTIONS TAKEN OCCURRED TO OCCUR.
SO THIS PROPERTY THEN YELLOW, IS THAT OWNED BY THE COUNTY? NO, IT'S NOT ON BY THE COUNTY.
PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT OF PASSAGE OVER IT BECAUSE IT WAS DEDICATED TO PUBLIC USE BY THE PERSON WHO PUT THE SUBDIVISION PLAT TO RECORD.
I THINK IN THE 1940S, IT WAS CERTAINLY BEFORE THE COUNTY HAD A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
SO NOTHING HAD TO BE RUN THROUGH THE COUNTY NOR WAS IT.
IT IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.
IT IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE STATE AND IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
IT'S NOT, NO, IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
THEN DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE THE POWER TO VACATE.
IT IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD BECAUSE THE SUB DIVIDER SAID THAT IT WAS AND HAS BEEN USED BY THE PUBLIC.
SO WHO OWNS, WHO OWNS THIS AREA? THEIR PRESUMPTION OF RHODES CREATED IN THIS MANNER IS THAT THE, A BUDDING OWNERS EACH OWN TO THE CENTER LINE, EXCEPT FOR, IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PLANT, THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF BOUNDARY ROAD.
THE SUBDIVISION LINE WAS THERE.
AND SO IF THE ROAD, UH, RUNS ON THE EDGE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE EDGE OF THE SUBDIVISION LINE, WHICH THIS ONE DOES, THEN THE PRESUMPTION IS THE OWNER OF 1 0 1 ACTUALLY OWNS THE FULL WIDTH OF THE ROAD IS IF YOU EXTENDED THEIR BOUNDARY LINE, BUT, BUT THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KEEP TRAVELING OVER IT RIGHT NOW, UNLESS YOU VACATE THE ROAD
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WHO MAINTAINS IT, NOBODY, NOBODY.WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THAT, I THINK THE OWNERS HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO NOW WHEN THE COUNTY RAN SEWER DOWN SYCAMORE LANE, AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE ALSO PUSHED IT DOWN A PIECE OF THAT YELLOW PIECE OF BOUNDARY.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE THAT SEWER LINE IS.
WHEN WE RAN IT DOWN SYCAMORE LANE, IT WAS DONE ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS A PUBLIC ROAD AND WE COULD DO SO.
AND THE COUNTY ALWAYS CLEANS UP AFTER ITSELF.
ALMOST ALWAYS LEAVING THE ROAD LOOKING BETTER THAN IT DOES BEFORE WE GOT THERE.
SO THE COUNTY DID SOME PAVING THERE.
SO, SO, SO I WENT UP THERE TODAY ON MY WAY BACK FROM, UH, THE WILLIAMSBURG TOURISM COUNCIL.
AND I NOTICED THAT I DROVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF BOUNDARY ROAD, WHERE IT DEAD ENDS ONTO, I BELIEVE THE PAL'S PROPERTY.
UH THERE'S IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT PUBLIC ACCESS, UH, I REALLY IT'S A STRETCH DOWN SYCAMORE LANE.
THERE WAS SOME PAVING GOING ON.
I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORS HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER AND WERE PAVING THE ROAD.
UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE THE BIG THEY GOT TOGETHER.
THE NEIGHBORS GOT TOGETHER AND PAVED THE NON ROAD OR WHATEVER.
NICK, YOU WANT TO CALL IT THE PUBLIC, THE ACCESS ROAD.
SO THE COUNTY IS ONLY INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE OF SOME GUY CREATING THIS, THIS THING THAT SAID THAT ONE CREATED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS WOULD BE A RIGHT OF ACCESS.
HE SAID IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND SO THE PUBLIC HAS USED IT.
SO HE SAYS IT COULD BE A PUBLIC ROAD, BUT HE'S TELLING ME THE PRIVATE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD ACTUALLY OWN IT.
THERE ARE ROADS LIKE THIS IN OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY.
THERE'S ONE ACTUALLY IN PLANTED YORKTOWN, THERE'S ONE UP COOK ROAD NEAR, ACROSS AS COOK ROAD, UP NEAR YORK HIGH SCHOOL.
MANY OF THESE ROADS SIMPLY, UH, WELL, NOT IN THIS CASE, MANY OF THE OLDER ROADS SIMPLY SPRANG INTO EXISTENCE.
WE WERE NEVER TAKEN INTO ANY STATE SYSTEM.
THEY'RE JUST THERE AND THEY BECAME PUBLIC ROADS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC USED THEM OVER TIME.
DIRT ROADS, UH, WILL ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT CROSSES COOK ROAD, YOU CAN BARELY SEE.
YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL US ANYTHING THERE.
THE ONE IN YORKTOWN, IF YOU EVER LOOK AT A MAP OF YORKTOWN IS CALLED NELSON STREET CLOSED.
AND IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR IT, YOU'LL SEE IT, BUT IT ACTUALLY GOES OVER SOME OF THE READOUTS IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS EVERY USE.
PROBABLY NOT SINCE COLONIAL SINCE THAT, SINCE THE WAR.
UM, BUT IT, A ROAD IS A PUBLIC ROAD, EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, THE LAND MAY NOT BE OWNED BY A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT WAS DEDICATED TO PUBLIC USE AND THE PUBLIC HAS IN FACT USED IT.
SO IT'S A PUBLIC, RIGHT? SO WHAT IT EFFECTIVELY IS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY LEGALLY, TECHNICALLY CALLED AN EASEMENT, BUT EFFECTIVELY IT IS AN EASEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC HAS OVER THE, OVER THE YELLOW AREAS FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, FOR TRANSPORT.
THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW HAS THE RIGHT TO USE IT, EVEN THOUGH THE PUBLIC DOESN'T PAY A DIME TOWARDS MAINTAINING IT.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS PLACE.
WE'RE TRYING TO TALK OVER HERE.
SO, SO THE, THE, THE ROAD ACCESS, OKAY.
OR THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, REMINDS ME IN ENGLAND WHERE THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A PUBLIC PATH THAT YOU CAN'T BLOCK.
SO THE CO THE BOARD HERE IS BEING ASKED TO TAKE ACTION TO ELIMINATE THIS PUBLIC, RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY CLASSIC.
WHAT ELIMINATE A PUBLIC RIGHT OF ACCESS.
THE PUBLIC PATH IS PROBABLY A PRETTY CLOSE ANALOGY TO EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS IN AMERICAN LAW.
SO THE, NOW THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THESE HOUSES ON 1 0 1, 2, 1 0 5, AND ALL THESE OTHERS IN THERE, WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT, THEY WERE, I GUESS, THEN THEIR PLANTS WAS THIS PLANET, THE SHOW, OR WAS THIS MA THEY MADE AWARE, OR HOW WOULD THEY MADE AWARE OF THIS PUBLIC ACCESS OCCURRED? I HAVE NO IDEA.
ALL I CAN TELL, I ASSUME, BUT LEGALLY I SUE IT IS THERE LEGALLY, BECAUSE THIS WAS PLAT WAS PUT TO RECORD, WHICH CREATED THESE LOTS AND THESE STREETS AT A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT FOR COUNTY REVIEW, WHEN ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO DO SO, COULD SUBDIVIDE LAND, CREATE LAW ROADS, PUT A PLATTER RECORD OF THOSE LOTS EXISTED IN THOSE SITES.
SO THEN A PERSON THAT COMES OFF OF BOUNDARY ROAD THAT GOES DOWN SYCAMORE, ARE THEY TRESPASSING? UH, THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT TRESPASSING.
CAN THEY BE BLOCKED OFF FROM ACCESS TO THAT? NO, NOT CURRENTLY.
NOT UNLESS YOU VACATE THIS ROAD.
THAT'S JUST ASKING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WHO'VE BEEN PUSHING PUBLIC ACT, PUSHING BIKE TRAILS, ALL OVER THE PLACE, MAN, WALKWAYS TO VACATE AT A RIGHT THAT TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T EVEN OWN.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND WHY
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WE'RE INVOLVED IN IT, BUT THIS, THIS BECOMES MORE OF, UM, AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE THAN IT DOES, OR A COMMON SENSE ISSUE TO ME.YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD FIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE BOARDS, THE POOR'S DECISION OF WHAT TO DO.
ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON BOUNDARY ROAD DOOR.
OH, WELL, MY S MY PAGE, MY SINS RIGHT NOW IS THE PARK SERVICE HAS GOT REAL LAZY.
SO IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SURE DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE SIDE AGAINST, YOU KNOW, BIKES AND ACCESS, BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE OTHER WAYS YOU CAN GO INTO THE PROPERTY AND SEPARATE FROM WHAT THE PARK SERVICE DOES OR DOESN'T DO.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE BOUNDARY ROAD, IF YOU GO STRAIGHT IN THAT ALSO IS CONTIGUOUS WITH THE PARKS SERVICE, AND DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, GO BETWEEN PROPERTIES IN THE SAME MANNER AND THE OTHER PLACE, THE VFW POST, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE SHOULD BE PLANNED WELL-ORGANIZED ACCESS TO THE PARK SERVICE.
THE QUESTION IS, IS, IS THAT PARTICULAR PLACE A GOOD ONE FOR THAT? AND HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE WITH THE PARK SERVICE? THE PARK SERVICE WANTS TO, THEY PUT A FENCE UP THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY AS A SUPERVISOR, I WOULD, WE WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD FIGHT.
I MEAN, TO ME, IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE.
WELL, AND, AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE.
IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SOLVE A PARK SERVICE ACCESS PROBLEM BY MAKING THIS DECISION.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE TWO ROADS, BINDER, ROW SYCAMORE LANE ENDS AT THE NATURAL PARK SERVICE.
THEY HAVE SAID THEY DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE PARK SERVICE FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM THAT.
AND THEY'RE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BY VACATING THE, THESE TWO ROADS.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AUTOMATIC KNOWLEDGE.
EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY, YOU CAN'T USE THIS ROAD ACCESS AND MORE PEOPLE WILL STILL GOING TO TRY TO ACCESS THAT ROAD.
HIS BELIEF IS GONNA LEAD TO MORE CONTENTION.
WE DON'T HAVE PARK SERVICE REPRESENTATION AT NIGHT TO HELP US WORK THROUGH THIS.
UM, BUT, UM, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THOUGH, THAT, AND, AND THERE'S NOBODY SAYING THAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE OR THE COUNTY WANTS PEOPLE TO USE FOX SERVICE PROPERTY, IT'S AN ISSUE ABOUT HOW THEY GAIN ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY? CORRECT.
WELL, THAT'S MY VIEW IS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY POTENTIAL ACCESS POINTS THERE ARE, BUT THESE TWO, FOR WHATEVER HISTORICAL REASONS HAVE GENERATED ALL KINDS OF DISCONTENT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE MANY OTHER ACCESS POINTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF CONTENTION, BUT, BUT THE PEOPLE WILL MAKE A COMMENT BY NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE ROADS.
THE WHAT'S IT CALLED, UM, THIS HISTORICAL TRAIL AND ACCESS TO THE BOXER IS THAT'S NOT BEEN QUESTIONED.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW TO GET TO IT.
BUT I THINK THAT IF, IF THE PARK SERVICE WANTS TO CONTROL THAT THE BOXER IS, NEEDS TO STEP UP AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION.
AND IN THAT, IN THAT EFFORT, AND I ASKED THE COUNTY TO STOP SHUTTING DOWN ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN IN USE FOR SINCE BEFORE WE EVEN HAD ORDINANCES ON HOW TO SOME, TO BUY A PROPERTY KIND OF LATE, KIND OF LATE COMING TO THE GAME, MADAM CHAIR.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T REALLY SPEAK, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR THE PARKS SERVICE, BUT THERE IS A LETTER THAT I THINK MAY GIVE AT LEAST THEIR THINKING.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT THE BOARD WISHES TO DO, IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE BOARD AS TO WHAT YOU WISH TO DO, BUT THIS IS A LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 11TH, 2020 FROM KIM HALL, THEN SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PARK.
I THINK YOU'LL REMEMBER HER TO DANIEL IFAS WHO SPOKE TONIGHT.
UM, UH, I WON'T, I'LL SKIP OVER SOME OF THE LANGUAGE.
IT SAYS THAT THE PARK HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS TO THE YORK COUNTY, LOCAL RESIDENTS NEAR SYCAMORE LANE.
UM, AND THEN IT HAS SOME BULLETED POINTS.
BICYCLES ARE ONLY ALLOWED ON PARK ROSE AND APPROVED BIKE TRAILS, WHICH INCLUDE FIRE ROADS.
USUALLY THE AREA SUBJECT TO A FEE DAILY AND YEARLY PARK PASSES ARE AVAILABLE, ET CETERA.
THE YORKTOWN BATTLEFIELD CLOSES AT SUNSET DAILY AND OPENS AT 6:00 AM.
BEING IN THE PARK WHEN CLOSED IS NOT ALLOWED WALKING THROUGH THE PARK IS GENERALLY ALLOWED AN OPEN AREAS, BUT AREAS CAN BE CLOSED OF UNDESIRABLE EFFECTS OCCUR SUCH AS EROSION AS SUCH.
PLEASE STOP ACCESSING THE PARK TOUR ROADS FROM THE INNER SYCAMORE LANE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO ACCESS THE TOUR ROSE FROM SURRENDER FIELD DURING OPEN HOURS AND WITH A PARK PASS PARKS SERVICES COMMITTED TO PROVIDING APPROPRIATE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE OPEN TO HAVING A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING YOUR RECREATIONAL ACCESS TO PARK AREAS AROUND THE LACKEY AREA, THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TRAILS, WHERE NONE EXIST HAS A HIGH COST, AND IT CAN BE A LENGTHY PROCESS.
THIS ALSO MAY BE COLLABORATIVE OR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE AS WELL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT THE PARK SERVICES, UM, FEELINGS ON IT, BUT YOU MIGHT, I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT LETTER.
I DON'T THINK THAT ONE WAS IN YOUR PACKAGE.
I THINK THERE'S A LATER ONE THAT SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY OF, OF BOUNDARY ROAD.
I THINK IT MAY HAVE SOME SIMILAR LANGUAGE THAT THIS ONE SPOKE SPECIFICALLY TO SYCAMORE LANE,
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BUT WHETHER, BUT WHETHER THE BOARD WISHES TO VACATE THESE ROADS IS THE BOARD'S DECISION.SO, BUT SO, BUT THAT LETTER TO ME, IT'S A DONE DEAL.
THE NATIONAL BOXER IS OWNS THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY BEEN ASKED PEOPLE TO NOT ASK US THEIR PROPERTY IN THAT MANNER.
I MEAN, WRITING, I HAVE THAT LETTER FROM 2020.
I HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARKS SERVICE ON THIS ONE.
OTHER STAFF, I BELIEVE HAVE, BUT I HAVE NOT, BUT I'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS LETTER.
MR. BELLAMY, HEY SHEILA, YOU WE'RE GOING TO LET THE ZOOM GUY TALK.
I DIDN'T HEAR WAS THAT DIRECTED TO ME? LET'S SEE.
WELL, WE'LL TALK WITH WHOM US AS WE WILL TALK.
DON'T EVER THINK THAT ZOOMING IN ON A CONFERENCES IS A FULL PARTICIPANT THAT'S FOR SURE.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THE LAST 20 MINUTES, BUT LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION TO JIM.
HOW WOUND HAS THE PUBLIC HAD ACCESS TO SICK OF WAR AND BOUNDARY ROADS? THE, SINCE THE SUBDIVISION PLAT WAS PUT TO RECORD, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 1940S, 1940S, 19, AND WHO WAS BEHIND TRYING TO STOP THAT ACCESS, THE PARK SERVICE AND MR. PAL, OR JUST THE PARK SERVICE.
UH, THEIR, THEIR REQUEST COMES FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE PROPERTY, BUT SYCAMORE LANE AND THE PALS WHO ALSO OWN THE, THE, THE, UH, UNIMPROVED AND, AND, UM, ON, UM, AND, AND THE PART OF A BOUNDARY ROAD.
THAT'S NOT IN THE STATE SYSTEM.
AND CAN YOU SUCCINCTLY GIVE US THE RATIONALE FOR THEIR ARGUMENT TO CLOSE THE ACCESS? UH, MS. PAL SPOKE EARLIER, SHE SAID SHE HAD PREPARED SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT.
I THINK THEY ARE, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MS. POWELL OVER THE PHONE.
UH, PART OF THEIR CONCERN IS EROSION, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S ALL OF IT.
I REALLY NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF AND THE PARK SERVICE, UH, PARKS SERVICE.
I JUST READ THE CONTENTS OF A LETTER THAT THEY WROTE IN 2020.
AND THAT'S ALL I, I MEAN, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.
OTHER THAN THAT, I FIND NOT THEIR SPOKESMAN.
IF I COULD, MR. ZAREMBA, I MEAN THE PARK SERVICE, WE ASKED THEM TO COME AND MEET WITH PEOPLE AND LOOK AT THE SITUATION BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
SO, UM, I MEAN, OTHER THAN RESTATING WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, UH, THOSE, THOSE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS FEEL LIKE, UH, PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO THE PARKLAND AT A PLACE THAT, UH, THE PARK SERVICE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO ENTER IT.
AND THAT THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT THEY CAN GO IN THAT SORT OF DON'T GET TO THEIR QUIET ENJOYMENT.
AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD WHAT THE OTHERS HAVE SAID.
THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS TO, TO THE PARK SERVICE THAT NOBODY IS CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A PASS TO ALLOW THEM TO RIDE ON IT.
AND THIS PROPERTY IS AS BAD PUBLIC ACCESS AS WHEN, EXCUSE ME.
IT'S IT'S THE, THE, THE ROAD, THE ROAD IS A PUBLIC ROAD TO ITS TERMINUS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S IT DEAD ENDS AT PARK SERVICE PROPERTIES.
SO I, I CAN, I CAN ONLY SAY THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO PASS UP AND DOWN SYCAMORE LANE THAT, THAT DOES NOT EQUATE TO THE RIGHT TO ACCESS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
IN THIS CASE PARK SERVICE PROPERTY, THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT ENDS WHERE THE YELLOW ENDS.
I MEAN, THEY PUT PUBLIC'S RIGHT OF PASSAGE ENDS WHERE THE ELEMENTS, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WE DECIDE HERE TONIGHT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT NATIONAL PARK SERVICE DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE ENTER IN THEIR PROPERTY FROM THESE TWO END POINTS.
SO WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO VACATE OR LEAVE AS IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE ANYBODY ACCESS INTO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, WHO USED TO THE ENDPOINTS ARE GOING TO GET SOME NATIONAL PARK SERVICE POLICIES AND REQUEST.
SO, SO THERE'D BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT GAINING ACCESS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE VACATED BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE ACCESS, BUT THAT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO USE THAT, THAT ACCESS TO GAIN ACCESS TO THEM THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO USE.
NOW, SPARK SERVICE NEED TO SPEAK IN THE US APART FROM SOMEBODY, WHETHER WE DECIDE TO VACATE LEAVE ALONE, DOESN'T CHANGE THAT BACK.
MR. MORGAN, AM I CORRECT IN HEARING THAT
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THERE ARE OTHER ACCESS POINTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING, LIKE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.AND WHEN I WAS UP THERE TODAY, THE ROADS ARE VERY NARROW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW A SCHOOL BUS, WHEN PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT, UH, GOING TO SCHOOL, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD EVEN GET A SCHOOL BUS DOWN, UH, SOME OF THOSE ROADS.
UH, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY WORRIES THAT SOMEBODY, IF PEOPLE KNEW WAS PUBLIC ACCESS, OTHER PEOPLE WOULD COME PARK CARS AND SAY, OH, WE CAN ACCESS THE PARK HERE.
UH, WE CAN AVOID THE, THE FEE AND JUST GO RIGHT DOWN SYCAMORE LANE.
HAS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE? OR SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMAL ACCESS POINTS.
WE HEARD PEOPLE REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THEM, UM, NOT REALLY DEBATING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE MANAGED BETTER.
UM, BUT I, I, I, I COULD IMAGINE, WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN CALLED DOWN THERE REPEATEDLY, AND THERE'S TWO SIDES TO ALL THE STORIES, BUT THERE'S, IT'S SORT OF A MAGNET FOR CONFRONTATION, WHETHER THAT'S SOMEBODY PARKING DOWN THERE OR JUST PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH, AND WHETHER IT'S AT NIGHT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT SO AT ONE TIME BEFORE THE LAST SUPERINTENDENT LEFT, SHE HAD SUGGESTED, UH, WHERE THE 90 DEGREE ANGLE ON BOUNDARY TURNED THAT THAT WOULD BE A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PLAY AN ACCESS.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, SHE LEFT AND ACTUALLY THE CHAIRMAN HAS A MEETING COMING UP WITH THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT HERE IN A FEW WEEKS, AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE ON OUR LIST.
YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T WE DO BETTER ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT ARE THOSE RIGHT POINTS? I MEAN, PROBABLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY KIND OF KNOW ALL THE INFORMAL ACCESS POINTS.
SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE INFORMAL ACCESS POINTS, NOT NECESSARILY DOWN SYCAMORE LANE.
I MEAN, I THINK I HEARD TONIGHT THAT THAT WAS IN FACT CURRENT CURRENTLY, SO THEY CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH BOUNDARY LANE.
AND NONE OF THOSE WOULD YOU JUST COME TO THE MICROPHONE? IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A BOUNDARY LANE? YES.
MA'AM HALEY CRANDALL THROUGH 2 0 8 SPRING ROAD, ACTUALLY, IT'S OFF OF BOUNDARY LANE.
IT'S THE CURRENT, UH, VFW THAT ALLOWS US THAT'S THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND THEY ALLOW US ACCESS VIA THE BACK OF THEIR PRIVATE PARTS.
MY POINT, I MEAN, TO ME, THE WHOLE THING IS UNLESS THE PARK SERVICE STEPS UP AND DOES THEIR PART TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SQUAD.
AND I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS A PARK SERVICE ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT THE PARKS SERVICE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION HERE.
THAT'S THE MARCUS AND I'M NOT DOING THE PARKS SERVICE JOB FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY LAZY TO DOING STUFF DOWN HERE AND I'M JUST, I'M TIRED OF IT.
SO DID YOU SAY SO AT THIS POINT IS AT THIS POINT, EXCUSE ME, AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VACATE THE, UH, VACATED OR WE CAN TABLE IT, LET IT COME BACK AND GET RESOLVED.
AND YEARS LATER, IF THE PARK SERVICE WANTS TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING, AND THERE'S A, AND THERE'S A ACCESS POINT, THAT'S IN THIS CLOSE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THEY GET DOWN HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUT ON THE MAIN ROADS, THEN THAT WOULD FIT INTO THIS OPERATION.
THEY WOULD ADDRESS THEIR ISSUE AND ADDRESS THE OTHER, OTHER FOLKS ISSUE.
BUT SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, SHE HADN'T THINGS DOWN MAKES NO SENSE THAT THE PARKS SERVICE IS NOT PARTICIPATING.
AND THEN I HEAR YOU HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WITH THE, SO THIS, THIS COULD BE DISCUSSED THERE AND ALL THIS BROUGHT FORWARD TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS WELL, IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST, YES, JUST MOVING, MOVING, MOVING, MOVING, AND NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS.
I, THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE OWNERS AND SAY MORE LANE WOULD LIKE TO VACATE THAT IT IS A PUBLIC ROAD, ALTHOUGH IT IS THE PLATS WERE, BUT LIKE, EXCUSE ME.
UH, I WILL COME TO THE MICROPHONE SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PLACE.
I JUST WANT YOUR ANSWER TO A QUESTION.
I THOUGHT YOU'RE CLARIFYING THE POINT.
THE MAIN THING THAT WE WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS, UH, SYCAMORE LANE OR BOUNDARY ROAD DO NOT END AT THE PARKS SERVICE.
THEY END BEFORE THE PARK SERVICE.
WHAT ENDS, WHAT IS BETWEEN THEM IS THE, UM, WATER DRAINAGE.
AND WE HAVE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD BEEN FLOODING AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSED THIS PROBLEM.
UM, WHEN THEY DRAG BICYCLES AND STUFF THROUGH THAT, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE CARE OF
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THAT IN YORK COUNTY.DOESN'T COME DOWN THERE AND DO IT.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT ROAD TO BE PAID WHERE WE ARE DOING OUR DRIVEWAY AS WELL.
MR. SHEPHERD HAS MOVED TO TABLE.
THIS, THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION ARE 22 DEATHS, 90 VACATING, THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY OVER SYCAMORE LANE AND A PORTION OF BOUNDARY ROAD.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT MOTION DIDN'T CON TABLE A TABLE IN THERE.
ACTUALLY I CONTINUE IT TO A PARTICULAR TIME.
IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE NEXT TIME, THE BOARD WISHES TO BRING IT UP AND SCHEDULED ON YOUR AGENDA.
NO FAIR FOR THE PUBLIC TO MEET, TO UNDERSTAND NOTHING'S CHANGED.
BUT THIS IS SET UP HERE FOR THE BOARD.
SO WHEN THINGS WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH PARK SERVICE WILL HAPPEN.
WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP AND MAYBE ADDRESS IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING STAYS EXACTLY AS IT IS.
SO WE FINISHED THE PUBLIC HERE.
I THINK WE FINISHED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
CALENDAR.UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
NUMBER EIGHT IS THE ANNUAL CONTRACTS FOR THE STRONG WATER ENGINEERING SERVICES.
UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE TALKS ABOUT THE SMART SCALE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING APPLICATION ENDORSEMENT.
NUMBER 10 IS THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE YORK MACOS AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE 11 REIMBURSEMENT FROM BOND PROCEEDS FOR EXPENDITURES MADE OR TO BE MADE IN CONNECTION WITH SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECTS.
12 IS THE MEN IN, IN ENERGY, RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT SERVICE TO YOUR COUNTY FACILITIES LIKE GOODWIN NECK ROAD.
AND NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR REFUND OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES.
ANY ONE DOES ANYBODY IN THE BOARD BURST EVERYTHING PULLED NUMBER NINE, NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 10, RIGHT? NUMBER NINE IS PULLED.
SO WHO GOING TO ADDRESS NUMBER NINE, TIM? UM, NOW I'M CHAIRMAN, UH, MR.
MR.
SO HE'S GOING TO ATTEMPT TO TEXT ME ANY COMMUNICATION UNTIL HE GETS TECHNOLOGY IS WONDERFUL.
SO WHOSE WHOSE STAFF? IT JUST IS A PART OF THE SMART SCALE, THEIR YARD, TIM, UM, TIM ON EAST, ON EAST TO, UM, UM, SMART SCALE APP.
THESE ARE THE APPLICANTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, BASICALLY THESE ARE OUR PROPOSED PROJECTS IS WHAT THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THIS IS GOING TO GO INTO THE NSU IS A 20, 24 PLAN.
OR IT WOULD GO INTO THE SIX-YEAR IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT THE CTB WILL ADOPT NEXT JULY.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE
IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT ANY OF THE CURRENT SMART SCALE PROJECTS? NO.
UH, THE ALLOCATIONS ARE FROM THE OUT YEARS OF THAT SIX YEAR PERIOD.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE QUEUE NOW PROCEEDS BEFORE ANYTHING NEW THAT GETS ADDED.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DAMAGING ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE RIGHT.
WE'VE GOT THREE PROJECTS IN A KEY RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE WILL PROCEED.
UM, MR. SMITH, YOU SIGNED UP, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SMART SCALE FOR ABOUT BARLOW ROAD? GOOD EVENING.
I RESIDE AT 2 72 BARLA WRA MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND SUPERVISORS.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK, UNDERSTANDING.
THERE'S A PROPOSAL WIDENED BALLER ROAD BETWEEN QUARTER'S NET ROAD AND ALLBORNE LANE.
THE PROPOSAL, THE WINE OF THE ROAD IS THREE FOOT ON EACH SIDE, ALONG WITH THE ADDITIONAL 77 FOOT ON EACH SIDE FOR UTILITIES, DITCHES EMBANKMENTS, THE PROPOSAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE CAUSE OF A $3.2 MILLION FOR 0.86 MILES.
MY UNDERSTANDING, I SENT AN EMAIL TO, UM, MR. MORGAN EXPLAINING THE SMART SCALE.
IF YOU GO INTO SMART SCALE AND LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL
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OF THE, THE RIGHTS OF THE ROADS, LET ME GET MY NOTES SHEET, RIGHT.THEY JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND.
WE'VE ONLY HAD 16 ACCIDENTS AND FROM 2015 TO 2021, THIS PROPOSAL OF THE $3.2 MILLION IS TO DO ONLY A 10TH OF THE WHOLE ROAD I HAVE IN MY POSSESSION, THE SMART PACKAGE WHERE IT SAYS YOUR COUNTY IN 2022, Y'ALL BASICALLY HAVE 618 ACCIDENTS IN THE FULL YORK COUNTY.
IN 2021, Y'ALL HAD 342 IN 2021.
I'M PROPOSING TO, TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF TABLE IT AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SEE IF THEY CAN RECOGNIZE YOU DO NOT OWN THE ROAD.
THE STATE DOES NOT PROPOSE THAT ROAD IS 18 FOOT WIDE AS FROM PEAK TO PEAK.
AND AVERAGE V DOT ROAD IS 22 FEET.
BASICALLY I WORK FOR V DOT AND I BASICALLY KNOW THE ROADS AND REGULATIONS ON THESE THINGS.
YOU HAVE UTILITIES WITHIN THREE FOOT OF THE EXISTING ROAD RIGHT NOW, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MAJOR RENOVATION OF UTILITIES AND PHONE LINES AND COMMUNICATIONS COPS.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT YOU'VE MADE.
I PULL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ROUTE 17 AND RICH ROAD, BECAUSE FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ON 17 AND ROAD.
THEY'RE PUTTING UP CONCRETE ISLANDS.
THAT'S PART OF THE SMART SCALE.
SOMEBODY HAD PULLED NUMBER 10 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE COAST AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU HAD NUMBER 10.
NO, HE PULLED 10, BUT YOU HAVE A NINE ALSO.
MR. CROSS I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT BEAT OUT IS PLANNING ON DOING A REPAYMENT EFFORT ON ORIANA ROAD.
AND WE, AS PART OF THE START SMART SCALE PROPOSAL IS ONE OF WIDEN OR REHABILITATE THE SHOULDERS ON, ON THE ROAD.
IS THERE ANY, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION OR THE REPAVING WOULD BE LONG BEFORE, AS I SAID, THIS WAS, THIS IS GOING TO BE OUT YOUR MONEY IN THE SIX-YEAR PLAN.
SO EVEN IF WE, IF WE GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED HERE WILL PROBABLY BE
I SEE THE SHERIFF MAJOR MONTGOMERY, HUH? THERE.
AND, UH, JUST WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE, UH, SIZE AND SCOPE OF THIS NEW, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LEFT OUT.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO TREMENDOUSLY IMPACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ABILITY TO PROVIDE BETTER, MORE QUALITY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE COMMUNITY AT WHOLE.
UM, PART OF THE BUILDING, THE TRAINING WING IS GOING TO GIVE US ENHANCED CAPABILITIES, UH, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AND TO DO THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVER DONE IN OUR HISTORY HERE.
AS FAR AS VIRTUAL REALITY TRAINING, WHICH WILL BE ACT ALL THE WAY FROM ACTIVE SHOOTER TO MENTAL HEALTH SITUATIONS, WHERE THE DEPUTIES WILL COME IN AND THEY'LL IT'LL APPEAR TO THEM THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN A BUILDING OR OUT IN, UH, OUT IN THE STREET AND DEALING WITH THESE SCENARIOS IS APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT CAN OCCUR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT ASPECTS OF THIS BUILDING.
UM, BUT ANOTHER THING IS REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT IT THAT WE DON'T TALK A LOT ABOUT IS HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SHERIFF DIGGS IN HIS TENURE HERE, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM AS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE WAY WE GET TREATED BY THE COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY ROOM THAT'S GOING TO ENABLE US TO BRING IN CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, UH, HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO HAVE A MEETING THOUGH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE BUILDING AND GIVE US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THEM, WHICH ONLY IS GOING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY POLICING EFFORTS THAT MUCH STRONGER.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS BUILDING
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IS FINALLY GOING TO BE BUILT.UH, I ALSO WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE THAT MR. MORGAN PLAYED IN THIS, HIS SUPPORT FOR THIS, AND PARTICULARLY ONE PERSON, JOE SIZZLER, WHO, UH, PUT IN TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HOURS IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT.
HE DESERVED A SPECIAL THINGS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS BUILDING.
ANY DISCUSSION AS FOR ROLL CALL MOTION, THE CONSENT CALENDAR, MR. SARABIA WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S LOST POWER TO HIS HOME.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ASSET EMITTED.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, BUT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHO WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM, TUESDAY, AUGUST 2ND IN THE EAST ROOM OF YOUR CALL AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.