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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
[Call to Order]
JOINING US FOR THE JUNE 21ST MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UH, MR. UH, MR.
MR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE REVEREND JOHN FALK, THE GRAFTON CHRISTIAN CHURCH, REVEREND FALK.
WOULD YOU PLEASE? YOU'RE WELCOME.
IT'S A JOY FOR ME TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
I GRAPHED IN CHRISTIAN CHURCH, ONE OF THE OLDEST CHURCHES IN THE COUNTY GOING BACK TO 1834.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS NOW ON AND OFF I'M THE, UH, INTERIM I KEEP COMING BACK.
IT'S A JOY FOR ME TO PARTICIPATE THERE.
SO JOY FOR ME TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, AND THAT'S A JOY FOR US TO GATHER TOGETHER AND THE INVOCATION SHALL WE BEGIN WITH PRAYER, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT GIFT OF LIFE.
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN CREATED A GREATER THAN YOUR IMAGE AND LIKENESS AND HAVE THAT CREATIVE ENERGY TO SHARE WITH OTHERS.
AND SO LORD, WE ASK THAT AS A BOARD GATHERS THAT WE MIGHT REFLECT YOUR ENERGY AND DO THAT, WHICH IS RIGHT WELL PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT AND THAT OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
WE THANK YOU AND YOUR MOST HOLY NAME.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THEY SUPPLY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
[A. Hampton Roads Alliance. Receive presentation from Doug Smith, President and CEO.]
TWO PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.THE FIRST ONE I WILL CALL ON OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO INTRODUCE DOUG SMITH, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE.
SO WHILE DOUG'S COMING UP, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT.
SOME OF YOU MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH MR. SMITH, BUT HE'S A, UM, A PUBLIC SERVANT AND A PRIVATE SECTOR, BUSINESS PERSONALITY.
THAT'S LONG BEEN PART OF HAMPTON ROADS.
I'VE KNOWN DOUG FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES AND THE LAST THREE OR FOUR GIGS HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN.
AND I THINK, UH, THE ALLIANCE IS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LEADER LIKE HIM THAT UNDERSTANDS BOTH THE ECONOMY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE FUTURE.
YOU WON'T NEED AN INTRODUCTION, BUT SINCE THIS IS HIS FIRST TIME HERE, I WANTED TO SAY THAT.
SO WELCOME TO THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN, AND THEN, UH, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE ALLIANCES EVENING, BUT WOULD LOVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, UM, AS WE WORK THROUGH, UM, UH, THIS PRESENTATION, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU ALL JOIN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE UP TO.
AND, UH, WE'RE A VERY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION TODAY THAN WE WERE A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.
UH, TODAY WE'VE REPRESENT 14 LOCALITIES, INCLUDING YOUR COUNTY.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH HAS DECIDED TO STEP OUT OF THE ALLIANCE, SO IT WILL BE 13 GOING FORWARD.
AND, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT FRANKLY, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, CANDID DISSENSION WITHIN THE POLITICS IN PORTSMOUTH.
AND THAT JUST IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF, OF KIND OF WHO WE ARE, UH, OUR MISSION AT THE END OF THE DAY IS REALLY TO GROW THE ECONOMY AND IT'S TO GROW THE TRADED SECTOR JOBS HERE, RIGHT? SO, UH, ANOTHER PIZZA PAULER, IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY, NOTHING AGAINST CHILLED ATTORNEYS OR ACCOUNTANTS, BUT ANOTHER ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ANOTHER ACCOUNTANTS OFFICE DOESN'T GROW THE ECONOMY.
WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, GROW ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SELLING THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THE REGION.
SO THAT'S OUR SIMPLEST, UH, UH, TASK, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING BY OURSELVES.
WE DON'T, UH, WE MAY START SOME THINGS.
YOUR STAFF CLOSES DEALS, OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICES, CLOSED DEALS.
WE ARE, UM, WE TRY TO BE A CATALYST THAT WORKS BETWEEN, UH, THE LOCALITIES AND, UH, PROSPECTS AND BUSINESSES, ALSO WORKING WITH THE VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP.
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ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE'S SORT OF WHAT OUR VALUES ARE.AND, AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE, EMPOWERING COMPANIES, EMPOWERING EMPLOYEES, UH, BUT ALSO THAT, THAT, THAT SECOND WORD OF COLLABORATION, IT REALLY IS.
WE TRY TO AGGRESSIVELY COLLABORATE, UH, WITH THE REST OF THE REGION, UM, AND THE REST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND ONE OF THE, AND I, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THE REGION HAS DONE REALLY WELL THE LAST FEW YEARS IS FIND THE RIGHT SWIM LANES FOR THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO WHETHER IT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR REINVENT HAMPTON ROADS, UH, CHAMBER WOMEN, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WORKFORCE COUNCIL, UH, WE, WE, WE TALK REGULARLY AND IT REALLY STARTED BEFORE COVID, BUT DURING COVID THE HEADS OF ALL THE REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS FROM HER ON FOOT TO MY ORGANIZATION, TO THE CHAMBERS, UH, WERE LITERALLY ON THE PHONE THREE DAYS A WEEK TALKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE COORDINATING SORT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE WERE, UH, THAT WE WERE UNDERTAKING.
AND SO I THINK TODAY, UM, A BUNCH OF US ARE CLIMBING ON A PLANE TOMORROW MORNING TO GO TO CHARLOTTE ON A CHAMBER EXCHANGE.
UH, AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING THAT AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REINFORCING ONE ANOTHER AND WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE MONEY SLIDE, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU, IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE ALLIANCE BEFORE, AND WE'LL SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THIS, IT IS A, IT'S A NEW ORGANIZATION WITH A NEW MISSION WITH NEW LEADERSHIP, WITH NEW FUNDING.
AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE, WE, EVERYTHING WE DO IS, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS GUIDED BY SOME, UH, TWO AGREEMENTS.
UH, ONE WAS A STUDY THAT, UH, IBM DID FOR US BACK IN 2018 AND REALLY CAME IN AND SAID, AMONG OTHER THINGS, YOU'RE CHASING AN OLD MODEL.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE OTHER REASONS HAVE REALLY CHANGED WHAT THEY DO AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SLOW TO CHANGE AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND I'LL TALK YOU THROUGH WHAT SOME OF THOSE WERE.
UH, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE WAS, UM, GETTING INVOLVED WITH EXISTING BUSINESS BUSINESS EXPANSION.
AND, AND I WAS A BANKER FOR A LOT OF YEARS BEFORE I GOT INTO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND, UM, WE WOULD ALWAYS SAY IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO HANG ON TO A CUSTOMER THAN IT IS TO GO GET A NEW ONE.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SB ROW D ROBOTICS BEFOREHAND, A COMPANY THAT STARTED IN JAMES CITY COUNTY AND, UM, NOW HAS, UH, UH, UH, DOZENS OF EMPLOYEES AND THEN LITERALLY 50 OPENINGS TRYING TO HIRE FOLKS IN AT HIGHWAYS JOBS.
WE'VE MOVED HEAVEN AND EARTH TO MOVE THAT COMPANY HERE, THEY'RE ALREADY HERE.
SO LET'S DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP THEM BE SUCCESSFUL.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S BEEN A BIG CHANGE FOR US.
I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OFFSHORE WIND, CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO JUST COME OUR WAY THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE MISSION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND I'M ACTUALLY A LOT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WHAT IT WAS.
UM, THE GOVERNANCE IS ALSO DIFFERENT IF YOU THINK BACK, UH, WE, WE HAD A 70 MEMBER BOARD, RIGHT? SO I SEE NEIL SHAKING HIS HEAD AND MATCHING 70 PEOPLE SITTING UP THERE.
IT IS, IT WAS ON, UM, UNWORKABLE, RIGHT? AND SO THE BOARD, UH, FRANK IS TODAY, IT'S A 13 MEMBER BOARD.
UM, IT IS, UH, SEVEN PRIVATE SECTOR, UH, EXECUTIVES AND, UM, SIX OF THE MAYORS AND CHAIRS.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SHEET THERE, SORT OF THE, THE OTHER THING WE DID WITH THE, WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD ARGUE THAT, UM, THIS REGION SEEDED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR FOR, FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WASN'T AS ENGAGED AS THEY NEEDED TO BE.
AND THOSE THAT WERE ENGAGED DID IT OUT OF THEIR CIVIC DUTY.
UH, THEY DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR TURN TO TAKE A SHOT AT SUPPORTING AN ORGANIZATION OR BEING THE CHAIR.
WHAT WE WANT YOUR COMPANY INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OUT OF SELF INTEREST, YOUR COMPANY IS GOING TO GROW.
YOUR COMPANY IS GOING TO IMPROVE YOUR COMPANY IS GOING TO MAKE MORE MONEY IF WE DO OUR JOB WELL.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, OUR CHAIR IS, UH, THE, UH, THE WAS THE HEAD OF HR FOR HUNTINGTON INGLESBY ALARM ATTENDER, UH, KEITH VANDER, VENNET FROM FERGUSON.
AND YOU CAN ROB WON'T RUN YOU DOWN THE LIST, BUT IT'S IT'S, THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT C-SUITE EXECUTIVES.
DIANE LEOPOLD IS THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF DOMINION ENERGY.
SO IT HAD BEEN A HUGE ASSET FOR US.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, SIX MAYORS WERE CHAIRS, UH, THAT REPRESENT THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE REGIONAL COLLABORATION PART OF WHERE THAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE RED TEAM, UH, THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THAT'S ALL OF THE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS, AS WELL AS THE UTILITIES, UH, REINVENT HAMPTON ROADS, THE HR PDC, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, BOB CRUMB.
AND, UH, WE'RE AT A ROOM ONCE A MONTH TALKING ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EMPHASIZE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THE STRATEGY HAPPENS.
AND FRANKLY, WHEN Y'ALL WERE NOT MEMBERS, WE INVITED JIM AND VAUGHN AND, AND, UH, THEIR PEERS TO COME TO ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS, BECAUSE CANDIDLY, WE SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE, WE'RE ONE REGION, YOU'VE GOT A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION, BUT WE'RE ALL CHASING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.
AND THE REST OF THE WORLD LOOKS AT US AS ONE ORGANIZATION AND ONE, EXCUSE ME, ONE REGION.
AND SO, UM, THOSE FOLKS, SO, SO JIM CAME TO EVERY ONE OF OUR RED TEAM MEETINGS.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE FUNDING IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE SAID TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR WAS WE WANT YOUR, WE WANT YOUR, UM, UH, YOUR INFLUENCE.
WE WANT YOUR NETWORK, WE WANT YOUR PARTICIPATION, AND WE ALSO WANT YOUR MONEY.
AND SO WE WENT AND, UM, RAISED, UH, ALMOST $2 MILLION OF PRIVATE MONEY ANNUALLY.
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UH, THAT NUMBER HAD BEEN CLOSER TO $500,000.SO WE MORE THAN TRIPLED THE AMOUNT OF PRIVATE MONEY, UH, WITH THE, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD MATCH THAT WITH PUBLIC MONEY.
SO IT REALLY IS A 50 50, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE ORGANIZATION TODAY.
UM, I'VE MENTIONED THE IBM STUDY.
THERE'S A MASTER AGREEMENT THAT, UH, NEIL WILL PUT BEFORE YOU ALL AT THE RIGHT TIME.
THAT'S REALLY EACH OF THE LOCALITIES ASSIGNED THAT.
AND WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS MASTER AGREEMENT IS IT SAYS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
IT SAYS IT HAS THE METRICS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO PERFORM.
IT ALSO SAYS WHAT, WHAT THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS GOING TO DO.
AND PARTICIPATING IN THAT RED TEAM MEETING IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT.
UM, AND I MENTIONED THAT IBM STUDY THAT REALLY CAME IN AND, AND THE, THE SORT OF FOUR HEADLINES FROM THAT STUDY WERE, THE ALLIANCE HAS GOTTA BE A DRIVER FOR REGIONAL COLLABORATION.
AND I'LL ALWAYS SAY NOBODY GETS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE REGION, RIGHT? AND SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'VE GOT ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT HOW THE REGION WORKS TOGETHER.
A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON OUR TARGET INDUSTRIES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE MORE THAN, UM, GENERALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEEP IF YOU WANT TO GO AFTER UNMANNED SYSTEMS, RIGHT? BUT REAL TARGET FOR YOU ALL, YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT INDUSTRY.
YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRENDS ARE IN THAT INDUSTRY.
YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT INDUSTRY.
WE'RE ALSO REALLY THE ONLY GROUP THAT PROMOTES HAMPTON ROADS.
AND WE DO IT WITH A MODEST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I'LL ALWAYS SAY, WE'LL NEVER KNOW IF HAMPTON ROSE WAS A GOOD NAME FOR THE REGION OR NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND 50 CENTS TRYING TO MAKE IT STICK.
AND THAT THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY IS, AND THEN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, FRANKLY, HAS SPENT VERY LITTLE MONEY.
THE STATE OF VIRGINIA IS A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THIS NEW BUDGET FOR THE VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP TO ACTUALLY SPEND MARKETING DOLLARS.
BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY IS HOW WE PROMOTE THE REGION BEYOND WHAT WE DO.
AGAIN, BACK TO THAT IDEA OF YOU REALLY GOT TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE INDUSTRIES THAT YOU'RE GOING AFTER AND BE, UH, REALLY SHARP.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK FOR YOU ALL, AND I'LL TOUCH ON THIS IN A MINUTE IS SOME OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY, UM, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND YOU'LL MEET STEVE HARRISON.
UM, STEVE HARRIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID RECENTLY WAS WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM A VICE-PRESIDENT FROM OUR STAFF, ATTEND EVERY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AUTHORITY MEETING EVERY YEAR OR EVERY COMMISSION MEETING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED DURING COVID, UM, COMING OUT WAS, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE, THE, THE 14 COUNCILS, THE MEMBERS THEMSELVES REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE LIVES REALLY WEREN'T GETTING ENOUGH COMMUNICATIONS.
I HOPE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW HOW MUCH COMES IN YOUR BOXES, BUT EACH OF YOU GOT A LETTER FROM ME SAYING, JUST THAT SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB.
WE NEED TO GO BEYOND, UH, THE CITY MANAGER, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS, AND COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY TO YOU ALL.
SO YOU SHOULD BE GETTING COMMUNICATION FROM US.
YOU SHOULD BE GETTING INVITATIONS TO OUR INVESTOR EVENTS.
UH, THIS I'LL TOUCH ON ONE IN A MINUTE.
THERE'S A REALLY INTERESTING ONE WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE NEW MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL OF THE KING'S DAUGHTERS HERE IN JULY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING, UNFORTUNATELY, A FACILITY THAT COULD BE TWICE AS BIG AS IT'S GOING TO BE.
WE WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT FACILITY.
UM, SO WHAT CAN ENHANCE THAT COMMUNICATION DIRECTLY TO YOU ALL IN THE, IN THE PUREST FORM, WHAT WE DO, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MARKET THIS REGION TO, UH, CURRENT AND, AND OUTSIDE BUSINESSES.
UH, WE TRY TO FACILITATE THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, YOUR TEAM, UH, MATT AND CHRISTIE AND NEIL ARE GONNA CLOSE THE DEAL.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FACILITATE THAT DECISION AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WITH EXISTING BUSINESS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE DOING THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WORKFORCE COUNCIL, WE'RE SETTING UP A SERIES OF INDUSTRY ROUND TABLES, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND OUR TARGET INDUSTRIES WITH THOSE CURRENT PLAYERS THAT ARE IN THOSE INDUSTRIES, WHAT'S MAKING THEM SUCCESSFUL.
I'LL I WON'T NAME THE COMPANY, BUT ONE OF THE FIRST CALLS I MADE ON A COMPANY WAS TO SOLICIT THEM AS AN INVESTOR AND TOLD THE STORY OF ADP, THE PAYROLL PROCESSING COMPANY THAT THE ALLIANCE HAD BROUGHT INTO THE REGION.
AND I WAS PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK ABOUT WHAT A GREAT PROJECT IT WAS AND THIS AND THAT.
THE CEO SAT THERE VERY QUIETLY AND VERY NICE AND SHOOK HIS HEAD.
AND HE SAID, WHEN I WAS DONE, HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN ADP CAME IN HERE? I SAID, NO, SIR.
HE SAID THEY HIRED ALL MY PEOPLE.
AND HIS POINT AND THE POINT WAS, WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT SECTOR ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BODIES AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAINING IN PLACE.
AND SO WE'D BE MUCH BETTER TODAY.
YOU KNOW, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY MAN, BEFORE YOU START BRINGING FOLKS IN.
AND SO ADP COMES IN, THEY'VE SET UP SOME TRAINING PROGRAMS THROUGH OLD DOMINION, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THE HR SIDE.
AND THERE'S SOME GOOD STUFF HAPPENING.
WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT COMING IN.
I TALKED ABOUT THE RESEARCH THAT WE DO.
AND AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGED WITH THE REGIONS LEADERSHIP AROUND COMPETITIVENESS IS A BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE DO.
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UH, YOU ALL DID A STUDY.UM, THE, THE GREATER WAYNESBURG PARTNERSHIP DID A STUDY FOR THROUGH CHMURA ON YOUR TARGET INDUSTRIES.
SO THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE ONES THAT WE HAD DONE FOR THE REGION, BUT FOR WE'VE ADDED OFFSHORE WIND.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE REALLY PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THIS SPACE UNTIL EACH OF THESE, UM, EACH OF THESE SECTORS, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BY THE TIME OF ANNOUNCEMENT GETS MADE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO CLAIM CREDIT FOR IT, RIGHT? AND SO ONE OF THE PLACES WE GET CRITICIZED EVERY NOW AND THEN IS, WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A ROLE IN THIS.
OUR ROLE AT THE END OF THE DAY IS TO FILL THE TOP OF THE FUNNEL IS TO FILL IT WITH LEADS, MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES TO THE LOCALITIES.
UH, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLOSE THOSE DEALS.
WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES DOING LEAD GENERATION FOR US.
WE WERE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND NOT SEEING A LOT OF RESULTS.
AND SO WE'VE GONE ALL IN WITH A GROUP OUT OF FRANKFURT, GERMANY, PMP, UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE OFFICES, UH, IN NORTH AMERICA AND REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THEM.
AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE GOT AN OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT, THAT HAS IN 21, TOUCHED 30, OVER 30,000 COMPANIES.
NOW THESE ARE MASS EMAILS AND REAL, THEY'RE JUST THAT TOUCHES.
BUT THOSE TOUCHES WHERE YOU HAVE TO START RESULTED IN ALMOST 700 MEETINGS, UH, FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS.
UM, SO AGAIN, REALLY FILLING THAT FUNNEL, AND THIS IS WHAT THAT FUNNEL RESULTED IN.
AND THERE'S A, AND I KNOW THIS IS HARD TO SEE.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT YOU TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO.
ONE IS THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THAT SAYS, UH, SOURCED BOBBY ALLIANCE AND SOURCED BY VDP.
TRADITIONALLY, WE'VE GOTTEN THE MAJORITY OF OUR LEADS ALMOST 60% THROUGH THE STATE.
UM, AND SO NOW THIS PAST YEAR, TWO THIRDS OF OUR LEADS, WE GOT THE SAME NUMBER FROM THE STATE ROUGHLY, BUT TWO THIRDS OF OUR LEADS WERE ACTUALLY, WE GENERATED THROUGH PMP.
NOW WE'LL TELL YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? A LOT OF THAT 57, UH, LEADS 48% CAME FROM OFFSHORE WIND.
SO OFFSHORE WIND IS A HUGE ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AN 80 TO A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN INVESTMENT OFF THE EAST COAST.
THERE'S EVERY REASON A HAMPTON ROADS SHOULD BE THE SUPPLY CHAIN OF A HUB FOR THAT INDUSTRY.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF OUR, OUR, UM, EFFORTS, UM, ARE PUT THERE.
WE GOT A GRANT FROM GO VIRGINIA TO FUND.
UH, WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT DO NOTHING BUT OFF SHORE WIND.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SOME OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE RECENTLY, UM, HIGHLINER FOODS IS SORT OF A SEA, THE SEA CUISINE, THE, THE WHALERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, THEY MAKE MOBILE OR MAKES THE MACHINES THAT MAKE THE SMART CARDS.
UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, UH, CERTIFIED ORIGINS IS, UH, OLIVE OIL COMPANY.
WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OLIVE OIL COMPANIES NOW IN SOME MORE, UH, LOOKING AT THE AREA, THE ONE THAT DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS CMACGM, WHICH IS A NORFOLK BASED COMPANY SHIPPING COMPANY THAT LOOKED TO LEAVE THE AREA, UM, TWO-THIRDS OF THE EMPLOYEES LIVE IN VIRGINIA BEACH, RIGHT? SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOSE THAT COMPANY, IT'S, IT'S AS BIG A HIT TO VIRGINIA BEACH AS IT IS TO NORFOLK.
AND IT'S WHY THAT EXISTING BUSINESS PIECE IS SO IMPORTANT, UH, TO US.
AND THEN THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM THERE, SIEMENS GAMESA, UH, WE REALLY DIDN'T WORK ON THAT CANDIDATE.
THAT WAS THE PORT AUTHORITY, BUT IT WAS THE FIRST BIG DOMINO.
IT'S A BLADE FINISHING FACILITY.
UH, THAT'LL BE AT PORTSMOUTH MARINE TERMINAL THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY IS BRINGING IN AND THAT'S A REAL GAME CHANGER.
IT PUTS US IN THE GAME, UH, FOR OFF SHORE WIND BREEZE AIRWAYS.
I'M GONNA TELL, TAKE A CONVERSATION THAT REALLY THIS REGION HAS GOT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AROUND CONNECTIVITY.
I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, PRO UH, UH, SIDE OF THINGS, THE, THE ROAD NETWORK, THE $5 BILLION WHERE THE ROADS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE AIR AND BREEZE AIRWAYS, WHICH COMES IN WITH NON-STOP TRAVEL FOR US, WAS A REAL WINNER FOR US.
AND WE, WE ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S UNUSUAL FOR US TO GET IN THAT KIND OF SPACE.
UH, BUT WE, WE GOT THE STATE TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO THAT DEAL AND REALLY WENT AFTER THAT.
IT'S, UH, BRINGING THAT IN AS A HUB BROUGHT 116 JOBS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT GIVES THAT SEC CONNECTIVITY.
NOW THEY'VE GOT UP, UM, UH, THE CROSS-COUNTRY FLIGHT AS WELL.
I TOUCHED ON ONE OF THE FUN THINGS WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED AN OFFSHORE WIND LANDING, WHICH IS A SPACE, UH, THAT WE'RE USING IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER THAT ALLOWS THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING IN AND LOOKING AT THE AREA, BUT BASICALLY GIVING THEM OFFICE SPACE.
AND WE'VE GOT 20 COMPANIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE COME IN THERE AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE EAST COAST AND WHERE TO LOCATE, BUT IT HAS BECOME THE ROOM WHERE ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND OFFSHORE WIND TAKE PLACE.
WE'VE HAD THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR THERE, KAINE AND WARNER EACH BEEN THERE.
WE'VE HAD THE DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, UH, HOST A FORUM ON, UH, WORKFORCE GINA MCCARTHY IS, UH, UH, PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CLIMATE ADVISOR, UM, HAD HER IN TOWN HAVING SOME REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS, AS WELL AS THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY, JENNIFER GRANHOLM.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, AND I'M COMING TO A CLOSE HERE, UH, BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION.
WE'RE LOOKING OBVIOUSLY AT THE PEOPLE THAT,
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THAT INVEST IN US AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING WELL.UH, BUT ALSO, UH, WHO'S GOT A LEASE THAT'S COMING DUE.
UM, WHO, WHO DO WE THINK IS, UH, IN, IN A GROWTH STAGE COMPANIES THAT HAVE INTERNATIONAL HEADQUARTERS WILL CALL ON THEM WHILE THEY'RE HERE, WHILE WE'RE IN EUROPE AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE MAJOR REGIONAL EMPLOYER.
SO WE TRY TO, WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF, UM, UH, FIGURE OUT AND WE DON'T DO ANY, WE DON'T CALL AN ANYBODY IN YOUR COUNTY WITHOUT TALKING TO YOUR STAFF AND THAT WITHOUT THEM KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING, THERE'S, THERE'S A REAL FEAR IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OF US GETTING INTO EXISTING BUSINESS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON OUR TURF AND, AND WHERE WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT PERCEPTION IS NOT, UH, WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
WE, WE WERE VERY INVOLVED IN GOING AFTER SOME OF THE BUILD BACK BETTER, UM, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, UH, WE FORMED A HAMPTON ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE COALITION, AND THEN YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE'VE REALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A TEAM SPORT.
THAT'S JASON LQB, WHO'S THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP.
THIS BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU, ALL, YOU ALL, YOUR, YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY THESE PROGRAMS, RIGHT? SO YOU, YOU CALL ON US AND WE CAN GET DOWN TO CRAZY STUFF.
AND WE JUST PULLED OUT A FUND, WENT HERE, THE YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS, 13% MORE LIKELY TO OWN A COMPUTER THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE DO WITH THAT, BUT IF SOMEBODY IS COMING IN HERE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, RE EVEN ON A RETAIL SIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP YOU ALL, UH, WITH SOME OF THAT, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT A MOVIE THEATER, WELL, WE'LL TELL YOU HOW MANY FOLKS HAVE COME SEE A LIVE THEATER.
AND THEN THE MARKETING SIDE, I TOLD YOU, WE WE'VE DONE VERY LITTLE AS A REGION.
UH, WE'VE GOTTEN VERY AGGRESSIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, WE HIRED A LOCAL FIRM WHO IS THE, UH, WE HIRED THEM IN PART BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT THE, UH, THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY.
THEY SUPPORT, UH, SENTARA FERGUSON.
UM, UH, UH, SO THE PORT OF VIRGINIA, UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF LOCAL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS.
SO WE LIKED THE IDEA OF THEM KNOWING, UH, THE REGION.
AND SOMEBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ALWAYS TAKES THE, THE, UH, THE GUY OUTSIDE OF THE ORGANIZATION TO STATE THE OBVIOUS.
SO WE PLAYED ON THIS IDEA OF EVERY BUSINESS NEEDS AN ALLY, RIGHT? IT'S IN THE NAME.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY PLAYING ON AND DO A LOT OF VERY TARGETED SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE KINDS OF WE'VE GONE FROM REALLY ZERO TO SOME REALLY STRONG IMPRESSIONS AND IN SOME WORK STILL TO BE DONE, UH, THERE, UM, SO THE, THE, IN TERMS OF A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT JUST MAYBE PUT ON YOUR RADAR OF WHAT'S NEXT, UM, ENERGY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT TALENT, RIGHT? AND IT IS, IT IS V ISSUE.
AND I, IF THAT'S NUMBER ONE, I WOULD SAY ONE A IS ENERGY.
AND, UH, SO WE, WE GOT TO GO VIRGINIA GRANT AND HIRED A GROUP OUT OF DENVER CALLED PA CONSULTANT.
IT'S CONSULTING TO COME IN AND LOOK AT, UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY THAT'S COMING IN HERE, PARTICULARLY AROUND NATURAL GAS OR WHAT'S IT YOU'VE HEARD A LOT.
AND I CAN TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT.
WHAT IS, UM, WHAT'S COMING INTO THE AREA WHERE WE SHORT 54 OF OUR SITES, UH, WERE IDENTIFIED AS DEPENDENT ON THE ATLANTIC COAST PIPELINE.
YOU ARGUE WHETHER IT WAS GOOD OR BAD THAT IT TH THAT IT WAS DROPPED, UH, BUT IT WAS DROPPED.
AND THOSE 54 SITES DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE GAS TO, TO BRING IN A MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
UM, SO WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WHAT IS THE DEMAND GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT DOES THE SUPPLY LOOK LIKE TODAY? WHAT IS THE DEMAND GOING TO LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD? AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO MEET THAT DEMAND? SO WE'RE GOING TO THAT STUDY.
LITERALLY THE FIRST DRAFT CAME IN FRIDAY, UH, THAT WILL RESULT IN A REGIONAL ENERGY MASTER PLAN.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT, UM, OUR, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE A GROUP, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING AMONG THE UTILITIES AMONG THE MILITARY BASIS, AMONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS, AMONG BUSINESS, ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ENERGY TO THIS REGION FOR THE COMING DECADES.
UH, PRODUCT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE EBY REFER IS REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE.
AND, AND I HOPE YOU'VE CELEBRATED THAT, AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE, BUT WHAT YOU'VE TEED UP THERE IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET IN THE GAME IN WAYS THAT WERE NOT.
SO PEOPLE WILL SAY TO ME SOMETIMES, HEY, THIS CHIP MANUFACTURER LANDED IN OHIO, OR THIS BATTERY FACILITY LANDED IN NORTH CAROLINA.
WHY DIDN'T WE GET IT? AND THE QUICK ANSWER IS WE DIDN'T HAVE 1500 ACRES, OR WE DIDN'T HAVE 600 ACRES WITH THESE SORTS OF ATTRIBUTES.
SO HAVING PRODUCT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU'LL SEE US, AND WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH SITE READINESS.
WE'VE, WE'VE ANALYZED EVERY SITE.
I STARTED WITH EVERY SITE OVER A HUNDRED ACRES.
NOW IT'S EVERY SITE OVER 25 ACRES.
WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET THOSE SITES IN THE STREAM OF COMMERCE.
WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IS DEVELOPED A REGIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
SO WE'VE SAID SORT OF WHOEVER CAN MATCH A GRANT HAS MATCHING MONEY.
THEY GET TO GO GET SOME STATE MONEY.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO STEP BACK AND SAY, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE 58 CORRIDOR OR THE FOUR 60 CORE OF THE 64 CORRIDOR.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PIECE HAPPEN.
AND THEN, UM, WE WERE CHATTING FOR A MINUTE TALENT, UM, IS REALLY, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SPACE, BUT I THINK THE ALLIANCE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY A ROLE IN VERY TARGETED TALENT ATTRACTION.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN DO SOME INTERESTING THINGS ON
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SOCIAL MEDIA, SCRAPE PROFILES, AND LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT HAVE GRADUATED FROM WILLIAM AND MARY OR OLDER MEN, YOU KNOW, NORFOLK STATE, AND HAVE CERTAIN KINDS OF DEGREES, OR HAVE CERTAIN KINDS OF WORK AND EXPOSE THEM TO SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE HERE.SO, UH, HOPE NEXT TIME I COME BACK TO YOU, WE'VE GOT A, A, UM, A MEANINGFUL, UM, UH, PROGRAM THERE, AGAIN, IT'S THIS IDEA OF WE'LL GO BACK TO SBT ROBOTICS, YOU KNOW, IT HELPED THEM FIND, HELP THEM FILL THOSE 50 JOBS IS JUST AS VALUABLE AS BRINGING IN 50 NEW FOLKS.
WE TALKED TO A COMPANY, A DRONE UP WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, DOUG, WHEN IT COMES TO TALENT, UM, IT'S NOT JUST YOU, YOU'RE THINKING DRONE OPERATORS, I'M SURE, BUT WE NEED ACCOUNTANTS AND HR PEOPLE AND FINANCE PEOPLE.
UM, IT, IT, UH, FINDING THOSE SORT OF HIGHER END IT FINANCE ACCOUNTING, UM, IN HEALTHCARE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
SO I THINK THIS, THIS TALENT PIECE IS GOING TO BE, UM, UH, OCCUPY A LOT OF OUR, OUR ENERGY.
UH, SO MADAM CHAIR, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY REMARKS AND LOVE TO HAVE A FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS.
WE'LL SEE ABOUT THE QUESTIONS.
REAL, REAL QUICK, MR. SMITH, UH, WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET? HOW ARE YOU FUNDED? AND THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING WITH THE NEWPORT NEWS WILLIAMSBURG, YOUR COUNTY AIRPORT? ALL RIGHT.
SO FIRST, UM, UH, SO WE ARE, UM, WE'RE FUNDED BY THE LOCALITIES, UM, AND, UM, AND ABOUT 70, UM, INVESTORS.
SO WE'VE GOT INVESTED, WE'VE GOT EIGHT INVESTORS THAT GIVE US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
WELL, WE'VE GOT A, UH, ANOTHER CALL IT 50 OR 60 TO GIVE US SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 5,000 AND 50,000.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A AGAIN, IT'S MIX OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
WE ALSO, THIS PAST YEAR, PAST TWO YEARS, GOT MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE IN GOING AFTER GRANT MONEY.
SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS OFFSHORE WIND INITIATIVE FROM GO VIRGINIA.
WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE 7, 5, 7 FRAMEWORK.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT ROBOTICS AND HOW IMPORTANT ROBOTICS IS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A REAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DEPTH OF HERE OR NOT.
AND SO WE COMMISSIONED A VIRGINIA TECH TO DO A ROBOTICS STUDY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT INDUSTRY FORCE, AND I'M LEAVING SOMEBODY OUT, BUT THE POINT IS WE'VE DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB, MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE JOB OF GOING AFTER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT ON THE FUNDING SIDE.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE AIRPORTS HAVE HAD SOME VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIRECTOR, UM, BUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT AIRPORT'S GOING TO BE.
LONG-TERM CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND.
IF YOU MAKE ME KING FOR A DAY, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, FRANKLY, I, I PROBABLY KEEP THAT ONE CLOSE RICHMOND AND NORFOLK.
NOBODY'S MAKING ME KING FOR A DAY.
AND, AND, AND SO, UM, I THINK WE, WE WENT OUT SO MUCH OF US WENT OUT TO DENVER AND, UH, THAT WAS, UM, LAST YEAR, THAT WAS THE LAST NEW AIRPORT THEY GOT DONE.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A NEW ONE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NEW AIRPORT.
SO YOU GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ROLE OF THE AIRPORT YOU HAVE IS.
UM, SO HAVE YOU GOT THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? WELL, I'VE GOT A LOT OF THOUGHTS, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO I THINK THERE ARE THREE MAJOR TENT POLES THAT, THAT YOU WORK AROUND.
ONE IS LAND ENOUGH LAND FOR THE SCOPE OF BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING IN ENOUGH LAND WITH THE RIGHT ATTRIBUTES, CORRECT ELECTRICAL, WATER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE FOR, FOR THE GIVEN BUSINESS TRANSPORTATION, INTO THE AREA.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES THERE, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A NEW AIRPORT.
SO HOW DO YOU UTILIZE THE AIRPORTS WE HAVE IN THE AREA? AND THEN A FEW MINUTES AGO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WEREN'T REALLY LOOKING TO GET INTO THAT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE LOOKING TO GET INTO IT.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE THE LAND, YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
BUT IF THE BUSINESSES DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE TO STAFF WITH, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT COMING.
SO WITH ALL THE ECON, THE, UH, EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES WE HAVE HERE AT ODU, WHEN YOU WERE MARRIED ALL THE SCHOOLS, WHAT, WHAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO GROW A GOOD WORKFORCE HERE THAT WILL ATTRACT COMPANIES TO COME TO THIS AREA AND SET UP SHOP? YEAH.
SO I THINK THERE'S, SO I THINK, AND I'M ON, UH, UM, UH, SEAN AVERY'S BOARD.
SO WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE WORKFORCE COUNCIL.
WHEN I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THAT SPACE.
I THINK HE'S WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? HE IS THE ONE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO TAKE THESE KIDS AND, AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND GET, AND START GETTING THEM PREPARED.
MAYBE IT HELPED THEM UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT NOT NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE.
THAT THERE'S A CERTIFICATE THAT YOU CAN GIVE THAT CAN PREPARE YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THE MILLET, THE TRANSITIONING MILITARY, AND, AND GET THEM PREPARED FOR THOSE JOBS.
THAT'S, THAT'S HIS SPACE, WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT THE ALLIANCE.
SO I'VE, I REINFORCED THAT THROUGH EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE HELPFUL THERE, WE'VE HOSTED A MEETING WITH, WITH SEAN AND, AND PRESIDENT HEMPHILL FROM OLD DOMINION, WITH THE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROOM AND THE OTHER TABLE AND BUSINESS ON THE OTHER SIDE, TO START TO SIT FOR BUSINESS TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED IN A PREPARED WORKER.
SO IT'S TRYING TO MAKE THAT CONNECTIVITY WHERE I THINK THE ALLIANCE.
SO THE REGION ABSOLUTELY HAS GOT TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN WORKFORCE
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DEVELOPMENT.I THINK THERE'S A VERY, JUST, THERE'S A NICHE SPACE.
THAT'S NOT BEING MET FOR THESE HIGH SKILL, HIGH WAGE, HANDFUL OF JOBS FOR DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
UH, LIKE THE COUPLE OF THEM THAT I MENTIONED THAT I THINK WE SHOULD JUMP INTO THAT SPACE.
I HAVEN'T QUITE FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER REGIONS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT IT'S JUST THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY.
THEY SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THIS IN A YEAR OR TWO.
THIS IS A DEMOGRAPHIC CHALLENGE FOR THE COMING YEARS.
YOU BETTER FIGURE OUT HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME YOU CAN COME BACK HERE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WITH YOU ALL.
[B. Virginia Department of Transportation. Receive quarterly update from Rossie Carroll, Residency Administrator]
NEXT PRESENTATION WILL BE FROM RASA CAROL, THE REGENCY MINISTER MINISTRY LATER.EXCUSE ME, THE YOU DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, OTHER DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UM, START OFF THE, UH, QUARTERLY TRANSPORTATION UPDATE.
UM, WE RECEIVED 487 MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS THIS QUARTER, UH, OF THOSE, WE WERE COMPLETED 317, 170 OUTSTANDING, WHICH WAS A 65% COMPLETION RATE DRAINAGE BEING THE TOP REQUEST, UM, FOR, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PERIOD.
UH, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE, WE DID SOME DITCHING AND, UH, BEECHWOOD DRIVE FACTOR WORK AND, UH, JARGON LANE, NOBLES LANDING, UM, WALLACE RICH ROAD STREET SWEEPING THIS QUARTER, UH, DITCHING BETWEEN 1 37 AND, UH, OR JUST KITTY DRIVE, UH, BACK TO WORK FOR HOUSTON BOULEVARD DID SOME SEACOLE REPAIRS.
UM, AND THEN A LOT MORE DITCHING, UM, MALE CROSSING BAPTIST ROAD, CHURCH ROAD, YORK DRIVE, UM, UPCOMING MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, UH, CONTINUE WOODLAKE CROSSING, UH, JERRY AND HIS WORK'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED, UH, JULY.
UH, WE'LL BE GOING INTO, UH, ANOTHER DRAINAGE PROJECT IN LAMPS CREEK, AND THEN ALSO TAB LAKES, UH, DRAINAGE AND ROADWAY, PATCHING PROJECT COMING UP, UH, COMPLETED PROJECTS FOR THIS QUARTER.
UH, THE ROUTE 1 99, UH, FIBER OPTIC, UH, SIGNAL COMMUNICATIONS, UH, PROJECT, AND THEN THE ROUTE 60 BYPASS, UH, CROSS-WALK PROJECT, UH, WAS COMPLETED IN MAY.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SOME UPCOMING BEAT OUT ADMINISTERED PROJECTS.
I'LL GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE ON, WE HAVE EIGHT SIP, UM, HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, UH, ON 1 34 AT FIRST STREET, INDIAN SUMMER DRIVE AND LONG GREEN BOULEVARD.
UH, THAT PROJECT WAS AWARDED, UH, MAY 17TH AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION END DATE IS DECEMBER 16, 22 CONSTRUCTION START, UM, SHOULD START IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE SOME MOVEMENT OUT THERE FOR THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A PILOT, UH, MID-BLOCK CROSSING FOR, UH, ROUTE 60 BYPASS.
UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY STILL IN DESIGNED AND THEN IT'S BEING FUNDED THROUGH OUR RESEARCH COUNCIL.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING NEW AND WE ANTICIPATE, UH, LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL CONSTRUCTION ON THAT, UH, ASPHALT PAVING, WHICH HAS STARTED, UM, BUT IT WAS A ADVERTISED DECEMBER 21 COMPLETION DATE, NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, UH, MERRIMACK TRAIL, UM, 1 43 NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND FROM THE RAMP BY 64 WESTBOUND TO JAMES CITY COUNTY LINE.
IT'S ABOUT TWO MILES, UH, VICTORY BOULEVARD FROM, UH, THAT'S EAST END WEST FROM NEWPORT NEWS CITY LINE TO ROUTE 17.
UM, WE HAVE GOODWIN NECK ROAD, ROUTE 1 73 FROM 17 TO DANDY LOOP, WHICH IS ABOUT 4.4 MILES ORIANA ROAD FROM ROUTE 62.
UM, TWO ROUTES RIGHT CLOSE TO ROUTE 17 IS A PAYMENT BREAK THERE WHILE A MILL ROAD, UM, FROM ROUTE 60 BYPASS TO THE DEAD END AND CARRIES CHAPEL ROAD, UM, FROM COAST IN CITY LIMITS TO NORTH OF VICTOR BOULEVARD.
WE ALSO HAVE A LATEX PROJECT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED, UH, THAT WILL PUT A PRELIMINARY, UH, PREVENTATIVE OVERLAY, A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OVERLAY ON ROUTE 1 32, UH, BETWEEN CAPITOL LANDING ROAD AND 60 BYPASS.
AND THEN THE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND SECTIONS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 60 BYPASS TO THE WILLIAMSBURG CITY LIMITS.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST A, UH, ALMOST LIKE ASPHALT SEALER, THE ASPHALT'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BUT WE WANT TO SEAL IT AND MAINTAIN IT AND GIVE IT A LITTLE EXTRA LIFE.
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COMING THIS SUMMER AS WELL.UH, THE PENMAN ROAD, GOVERNMENT ROAD, UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IMPROVED SAFETY BY WIDE IMPEDIMENT ROAD, ADDING BICYCLE LANES, ADDING CURB AND GUTTER AND REALIGNING GOVERNMENT ROAD INTERSECTION FROM A WIDE TO A T CONFIGURATION AS CURRENTLY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, PHASE, UH, WITH PROJECTION COMPLETION WAS IN 2021, BUT THE SCHEDULE TO START, UH, CONSTRUCTION WILL BE LATE 20, 23, EARLY 20, 24.
THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE BEING DELAYED, UM, DUE TO SOME EASEMENT ISSUES.
WE WERE WORKING WITH THE NAVY ON.
SO ONCE WE CAN GET THOSE EASEMENTS THERE, RAILROAD PARCEL WORKED OUT, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE BACK WITH OUR UTILITY RELOCATIONS, UH, PENNIMAN ROAD.
UH, I'M SORRY, WITH CREEK ROAD PROJECT.
UM, Y'ALL ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
THAT IS CONTINUING ON A SMART SCALE.
WE HAVE ROUTE 17 WIDENING BETWEEN SIX 30 AND, UH, 1 73.
AND THAT'S A WIDEN, UH, GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY FROM FOUR TO SIX LANES.
UH, IT'S ABOUT A ONE AND A HALF MILE SECTION, UM, BETWEEN WOLF TRAP ROAD AND DENBY BOULEVARD, GOODWIN NECK, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS UNDERWAY.
UH, TARGET ADVERTISEMENT IS OCTOBER 20, 26 WITH CONSTRUCTION STARTING MAY OF 2027 COMPLETION OF JANUARY, 2029.
UH, SCOPING PHASE HAS CLOSED ON THIS PROJECT DESIGN APPROVAL SET FOR THE SUMMER.
THIS SUMMER AND PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD APRIL 28TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND THE NEPA DOCUMENT HAS CLEARED A SMART SCALE.
ANOTHER SMART SCALE PROJECT IS ROUTE 1 71 WIDENING BETWEEN ROUTE 17 AND 1 34.
UM, THIS WILL WIDEN THAT SECTION FROM FIVE TO SIX LANES BETWEEN 17 AND 1 34 PROVED CAPACITY AND OPERATIONAL DEFICIENCIES AT THE INTERSECTION OF 17.
AND 1 71, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND, UH, IT IS SCHEDULED FOR ADVERTISEMENT IN, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WAS TRUCKS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTED TO START IN MARCH OF 2025 WITH A COMPLETION OF FEBRUARY, 2026, A WILLINGNESS PERIOD CLOSED DESIGN APPROVAL PACKAGE IS COMPLETE.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAD THE ROUTE 71 ROUTE 1 71 CAPACITY ENHANCEMENTS BETWEEN ROUTES 1 34 AND 1740, UH, AND THE INTERSECTION TURN LANE AND SHOULDER IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITH A SHARED USE PATH ALONG VICTORY BOULEVARD BETWEEN, UH, HEAVEN'S WAY.
AND 1 34 PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS SCHEDULED TO START INTO THE SUMMER, UH, WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF THAT PROJECT, UH, SCHEDULED FOR 2028.
UH, WE'VE HAD A FEW TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDIES, UH, COMPLETED IN THIS, UH, QUARTER, UH, NO PARKING SIGN REQUEST ON ROUTE, UH, 1197 FREEDOM BOULEVARD.
UM, THE STUDY CAME BACK THAT IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, UH, DUE TO, UH, THE PAVEMENT WIDTHS THAT WERE OUT THERE, UM, MET OR EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, UH, SPEED STUDY FOR SPRINGFIELD ROAD, UH, 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT RECOMMENDED A SPEED STUDY FOR CHARLES ROAD.
UM, THE 40 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT THAT CURRENTLY THERE, UH, C APPEARED TO BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS AND ACCIDENT HISTORY.
UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT CENTER LINE MARKINGS, UH, WHICH WERE NOT RECOMMENDED BASED ON REDUCED PAYMENT WITS IN THOSE, UH, COLONIAL PARKWAY ON RAMP, UH, EXITING ROUTE 17, A REVIEW FOR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
WE RE RECOMMENDED ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE AND A DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT MARKINGS THERE THAT, UH, AT THAT RAMP, UH, TO IMPROVE SAFETY.
AND THEN ALSO WE DID THE FLASHING YELLOW ARROW, UH, INTERSECTION CRASH REVIEW FOR ROUTE 1 34 HAMPTON HIGHWAY AND YORKTOWN ROAD.
UH, BASED ON THIS REVIEW, NO CHANGES TO THE FLASHING YELLOW ARROW LEFT AND U-TURN INDICATORS OR RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, IT IS RECOMMENDED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE INTERSECTION, UH, YOUR COUNTY LAND USE.
UH, AND THIS IS FROM JULY, 2021, OUR FISCAL YEAR TWO TO MAY 24TH.
THE LAST REPORT I HAD, UM, PLAN REVIEWS, WE'VE COMPLETED 112, UM, IN YOUR COUNTY, THAT'S 47.
UM, SINCE THE LAST UPDATE I GAVE YOU, SO 47 THAT WE'VE DONE FOR PLAN REVIEWS, PERMITS ISSUED WE TO DATE, WE'VE ISSUED 247, WHICH IS UP A HUNDRED PERMITS, UH, FROM OUR LAST UPDATE, UH, PERMITS COMPLETED, WE'VE COMPLETED 48, WHICH IS UP 27 FROM OUR LAST, UH, FROM MY LAST, UH, UPDATE AND LANE MILES ADDED TO THE STATE SECONDARY SYSTEM IS 2.42 LANE MILES,
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WHICH IS 2.1, THREE LANE MILES SINCE I'M MY LAST UPDATE.SO THAT'S, UH, TWO, TWO MILES ADDED TO A SECONDARY SYSTEM, UH, THAT COMPLETES MY QUARTERLY UPDATE, UM, FOR YOUR COUNTY.
UM, BACK, HAVE ANY, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER OR TAKE NOTES, GET BACK TO YOU.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE WORK, UH, THE GUYS ARE DOING ON THE STORM WATER, UH, WITH THE AUGER, UH, IT'S AWESOME.
AND WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE, WHY IT'S TAKEN, YOU KNOW, MILLION YEARS FOR THIS TO OCCUR, BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, IT'S GOING IN THERE AND IT'S REALLY GONNA SOLVE A LOT OF, UH, VIA THESE MINOR DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT YOU GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.
AND ONCE WE GET ALL THAT DONE, IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER.
SO IT'S, I JUST WANT TO, AND THE CREWS ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO INPUT TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE OUT HERE, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH, WITH, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, LET YOU KNOW, UH, DEALT WITH, UH, UH, WE'LL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WILL'S LAST NAME, DAN ROSS, GREAT GUY TO WORK WITH.
I MEAN, HE'S JUST SUPER AND, UH, JUST A NICE PERSONALITY, UM, ON THE, UM, ON THE TRAFFIC LIGHT SITUATION AT A VICTORY BOULEVARD IN 17, THAT LEFT TURN.
I'M STILL GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
SO IT'S, UH, RIGHT NOW I KNOW IT'S A SINGLE LANE AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER LANE.
UH, THAT COMPANY IS DOING THAT WORK ACROSS FROM WALMART.
RIGHT? PART OF THEIR, THEIR PROFFERS WAS TO ADD ANOTHER LANE OVER THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE LAND FOR IT, BUT I GUESS IT'S ENOUGH AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP.
BUT I THINK THIS IS RIGHT NOW, NEEDS SOME RELIEF.
THEY'RE ONLY GETTING THREE CARS THROUGH THE LIGHT AND THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AGAIN, AND THEN BOOM, THREE MORE CARS THROUGH.
AND I'M JUST GETTING, I MEAN, IS THERE, CAN WE ADD LIKE MAYBE 10 SECONDS OR SOMETHING? SO WE GET AN EXTRA LIGHT, I MEAN, AN EXTRA CAR THROUGH, OR THE INTERSECTION IS PRETTY MUCH AT CAPACITY.
SO, UM, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE TO EIGHT CARS GOING THROUGH, CAUSE WE'VE DONE THE STUDIES WE WATCHED EVERY CAR I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
UM, SO FOR EVERY SECOND THAT WE ADD TO THAT REDUCES THE SECONDS FOR ANY OTHER MOVEMENT IN THAT INTERSECTION THAT THAT INTERSECTION, LIKE I SAID, IS, IS ABOVE CAPACITY.
UM, SO YOU'RE ALSO DEALING WITH 2000 FEET OF BACKUP ON 17 MAINLINE AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
SO FOR EVERY SECOND THAT YOU TAKE SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU'RE COMPOUNDING THE SAME SITUATION SOMEWHERE ELSE I HAD TO ASK YOU.
I KNOW, I KNOW WHEN I, WHEN WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT, VERY THOROUGH.
YOU GUYS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
I JUST, WE PUT THAT NEW LANE IN.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE COMING, BUT YOU USE IT IF EVERYBODY USED IT, IT'LL DOUBLE THE CAPACITY.
TH MR. CARROLL, IS THERE A COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE KEEP WORKING ON THOSE 35% OF, UH, NON COMPLETED WORK ORDERS KEEP WORKING ON THAT DRAINAGE.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE COUNTING ON YOU.
SECOND GOODWIN, NECK ROAD GETS REPAID.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RUMBLE STRIPS IN THE MIDDLE TO PREVENT A POTENTIAL OF HEAD-ON COLLISIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT ROAD.
UH, THE THIRD THING IS I KNOW SEAFORD ROAD IS OFF ON THE, UH, PAVEMENT RESCHEDULING, RIGHT? UH, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT, LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO MAYBE INCREASE THE SHOULDER ON THAT YOU OFTEN SEE, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT SCHOOL'S OUT, YOU SEE A LOT OF KIDS WALKING UP AND DOWN, SEE FOR GRADE, UH, YOU SEE PEOPLE RIDING BIKES, YOU SEE PEOPLE EXERCISING IN THE MORNING AND WE MIGHT CONSIDER, UH, BEFORE WE GET GOING ON THE REPAVING OR THAT SOME WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCREASE, UH, THE SHOULDERS WHERE IT MIGHT BE MORE USABLE, UH, AND SAFER, BE GLAD TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
THANKS A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.
I THINK WHEN YOU JOINED US LAST, WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME TYPE OF CROSSWALK ON ACROSS 17 NEAR, UH, THEIR ROAD TO CONNECT THE PEOPLE IN THE RAIN, RAIN VILLA, AND THOSE SIZES BACK THERE OVER INTO THE SHOPPING AREA AND, AND GRAFT AND BAPTIST CHURCH AND SO FORTH.
AND I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO DO A HIGH LEVEL OF FEASIBILITY STUDY IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT COME BACK.
JUST WANNA CHECK ON THAT IN A SECOND.
YOU AND I HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN VICTORY, VICTORY BOULEVARD, BIG BELT, THE ROAD.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME PLANS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A RIGHT TURN LANE IN FOR ONE THING AND SOME OTHER WORK.
BUT I THINK YOU SAID THAT Y'ALL NEVER LOOKED AT ADDING LEFT TURN LANES.
THERE WAS A REASON WHY TH THERE IS A PRINCIPLE WHICH DIRECTION YOU'RE COMING FROM YOUR PHONE AND MAKE A LEFT TO GO BECAUSE, RIGHT.
THERE'S WE HAVE, WE ONLY, WE ONLY HAVE WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO A LOT OF THAT IS THROUGH THE LAUGHS OR
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A DEDICATED, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, UM, WE HAVE LOOKED, I HAVE MET WITH OUR SIGNALS ENGINEER, UM, AND I, AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.UM, WE ARE RUNNING MODELS OF THAT INTERSECTION AGAIN RIGHT NOW.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO GET TIED UP INTO AMPS OR CS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAPACITY IT IS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING A SPLIT, UH, PHASING, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION AGAIN, SO THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A LEFT, W WHEN YOU HAVE THAT YOU HAVE A DEDICATED, LEFT AND A THROUGH, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE TO VICTORY AT THIS POINT WITHOUT FINAL MODELS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES GET DICEY WHEN IT GOES OPEN UP BOTH WAYS AND YOU'RE LIKE, DO I GO, DO I NOT GO, IS THAT GUY RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE ONE OF THE THINGS.
AND PLUS THEN IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING TO TURN LEFT, YOU THROUGHS AREN'T RIGHT.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE A COMMENT.
AND, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
WE CAN HEAR YOU COMMENT, UH, RUNS LIKE THIS.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE ROSSI V DOT DEPARTMENT.
IT GOES ONE OF OUR MAJOR HIGHWAYS RUNNING UP YOUR GOAL.
AND SPECIFICALLY FROM AIRPORT ROAD ON UP TO LIGHTFOOT ROAD, MAJOR CORRIDOR, UNTIL VERY RECENTLY IT WAS POTHOLE POTHOLE.
I BETTER A LAND ROVER DISCOVERY, PRETTY BIG CAR BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ANIMALS AND, UH, IT'S ONE WAY GOING EACH DIRECTION.
AND SO I'M ALMOST FORCED TO RUN THE SAME ROUTE COMING AND GO TO WORK.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, MY CAR WASN'T SHOCKING TOWARDS BONES.
AND SO ROSSI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING THOSE POTHOLES FIXED UP IN THE MORTON ROAD AREA, OUR PLANS SHIELD, UH, THANKS FOR, UH, ROSSY.
DO YOU EVER WORK WITH NEWPORT NEWS COLLABORATING ON WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO WORK AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO WORK SO THAT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, EXCUSE ME, HEALING CREEK PARKWAY WAS DONE BY NEWPORT NEWS AND IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, ALL MARKED A NEW PAVEMENT ON THE TOP.
AND THEN YOU GET TO THE BORDER, YOU SEE YOUR COUNTY AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND I WONDERED IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY THAT YOU COULD WORK TOGETHER ON YOUR SCHEDULING SO THAT YOU BOTH DO IT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO REALLY GET INTO MOVEMENT EVALUATIONS AND ALL THAT, BUT OUR PROGRAM IS REALLY SET UP ON, UH, WE DO, UH, EVALUATE OUR PAYMENTS EVERY YEAR.
SO WE HAVE SORT OF THIS EVALUATION PIECE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE COULD NOT COLLABORATE ON IF, IF OURS WAS COMING UP CLOSE, THAT WE DID IT THE SAME YEAR.
UH, BUT IT PROBABLY TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, TWO DIFFERENT OPERATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, BUT OUR PAVING DOLLARS, UM, KIND OF LOOK AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS, PREVENTATIVE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME PREVENTATIVE OVERLAYS, LATEX, LORRIES SEALS, STUFF OF THAT NATURE, UM, RESTORATIVE, WHICH IS YOUR NORMAL MIL INFILL OR CORRECTIVE MEASURES, WHICH IS MORE GETTING INTO THE SUB-BASE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE LOOK AT THAT AS A PROGRAM FOR YOUR COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY, SURRY COUNTY, UH, WITHIN OUR RESIDENCY.
UM, SO THOSE DOLLARS ARE SORT OF EARMARKED TOWARDS THOSE THINGS.
UM, IF THERE WAS OTHER FUNDING SOURCE OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROJECT OR REV SHARE OR SOMETHING TO TRY TO COORDINATE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PAVE ANY TIME, BUT A LOT OF OUR MONEY IS REALLY TIED TO THOSE PROGRAMS AND EVALUATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET A CERTAIN LANE MILES FOR EACH TYPE OF PAVEMENT REHAB OR, OR OKAY.
WE DO COLLABORATE WITH NEWPORT NEWS THOUGH.
WE DO, WE DO TALK ABOUT FOLLOWING UP WITH WHAT SHEILA WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT YOU, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU DO, UM, ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE PAVEMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE A VAN THAT, UH, TAKES, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A VIDEO THAT SITS DOWN ON THE ROAD LANE WITH IT.
UH, IT RUNS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
IT PICKS OUT EVERY IT'S CALLED NON LOAD DISTRESS, CRACKING, OR LOW DISTRESS CRACKING, WHICH IS YOU'RE RUNNING, YOU'RE PUSHING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
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RATING, UM, THAT IS TURNED AROUND AND PUT INTO A CCI, WHICH IS A CONDITION INDEX, WHICH TELLS ME WHAT KIND OF SHAPE THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY IS IN.SO WE DO THAT FOR INTERSTATE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SYSTEMS, UM, SECONDARY SYSTEMS BEING ANYTHING BUT 600 AND BELOW.
UM, SO WE SAY, YOU DON'T DO THIS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS 600 BELOW, I MEAN, 600 ABOVE.
SO YEAH, SO ALL, ALL OF THAT SECONDARY SYSTEM, 600 AND ABOVE, UM, WE DID ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
WE DID A HUNDRED PERCENT AFTER THAT WE DO 20% AND THEN WE PRORATE 20% OF, OF Y OF OUR INVENTORY.
SO EACH YEAR WE DO 20% AND THEN PRORATE THE OTHERS.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT, AND THEN WE DO 20% 20 FOR THIS NEXT FIVE YEARS AND PRORATE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
UM, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF DEFICIENCY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE, CAN YOU HAVE HIM RUN THAT TRUCK THROUGH A METAL LAKE FARMS? I CAN LOOK UP ANY ROUTE THAT YOU WANT ME TO.
IT'S A METAL, LIKE THERE'S A METAL LAKE ROAD, AND THAT'S WHERE A NEW NEIGHBORHOODS GOING IN AND THAT ROAD IS BEEN BEAT UP.
AND, AND NOW WE'RE FINDING THAT THE, UH, TRUCKS THAT ARE GOING INTO THIS NEW SUBDIVISION, IT'S JUST STARTING, IT'S CALLED VICTORY AT TAB CROSS FROM TAB TO TAB LIBRARY AREA.
AND, AND NOW THEY'VE TAKEN THESE HUGE TRUCKS AND THEY'RE GOING BACK UP INTO LIKE SUSAN NEWTON AND THROUGH, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, AM I CONCERNED IS THAT THIS IS REALLY DETERIORATING, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TRACK.
SO ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, IT'S A B AT SOMETHING I'M MAKING A REQUEST FOR.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THE NEXT TIME.
[CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]
OKAY.I WAS GOING TO OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
AT THIS POINT IN THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS CATHERINE.
I THINK PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
HI, I AM CATHERINE HOUSE CONNECT AT 1000 UNIVERSITY PLACE, NEWPORT NEWS.
AND TODAY I AM REPRESENTING YOUR COUNTY HISTORICAL MUSEUM.
I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT SOME OF THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATIONS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING HERE.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE, UM, INDEPENDENCE DAY EIGHT K AND 5K RUN AND WALK THAT WILL BE HAPPENING AT 7:00 AM OR 8:00 AM.
AND THAT WILL BE, UM, GOING ON FOR THE START, EVERYTHING OFF, YOU CAN STILL SIGN UP TO JOIN.
I HAVE SOME FLYERS WITH ME AND YOU CAN ALSO SIGN UP ONLINE TO GO IN THE RACE FOR RUN SIGNUP.COM.
IF YOU CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN PERSON, DON'T WORRY.
YOU CAN STILL PARTICIPATE IN THE RACE VIRTUALLY IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE NIGHT, I HAD 7:00 PM.
WE WILL BE HAVING THE SOUNDS OF LIBERTY, LIBERTY, BELL RINGING CEREMONY, WELL, WHERE THEY WOULD BE RECITING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND RING THE BELL FOR EACH OF THE 13 COLONIES, AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGING ALL OF THE ORIGINAL SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHERINE.
NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS PETER ROMERO, PETER, BIG NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I'M AT 2 0 7 BOULEVARD DRIVE IN YORKTOWN.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
LAST WEEK, WE LEARNED THAT INFLATION REACHED A FOUR YEAR 40 YEAR HIGH OF 8.6%, WHICH TRANSLATES INTO OVER $5,000 IN LOST BUYING POWER FOR GROCERIES AND OTHER NECESSITIES FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD DRIVE ANYWHERE IN HAMPTON ROADS.
AND YOU'LL SEE GUESTS LEAN THEIR FIVE BUCKS, A GALLON DIESEL FUEL AT $6, A GALLON DOUBLE OR MORE WHAT IT WAS THE SAME TIME THIS LAST YEAR YET AMID THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON RESIDENCY OR COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS FELT OBLIGED TO PILE ON IN FEBRUARY.
RESIDENTS RECEIVED NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGE IN REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT.
THIS PROPOSED CHANGE RESULTED FOR ME IN A 13% INCREASE IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX.
THESE INFLATED HOME VALUES ARE TRANSITORY, AND WE SAW THIS BACK IN 2008.
I AM GRATEFUL TO THE ART COUNTY ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY TOOK STEPS TO ADJUST THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE TO PROVIDE A MODICUM OF RELIEF.
BUT IN MY OPINION, IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH.
CONSIDERING THE FINANCIAL BEATING RESIDENTS ARE TAKING AT THE PUMP AND AT THE GROCERY STORE, THE MOST RECENT FINANCIAL BLOW TO YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS CAME EARLIER THIS MONTH WHEN THEY RECEIVED
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THEIR JUNE PER PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT.MY CASE, THE TAX INCREASE FOR THE SAME VEHICLES FROM JUNE, 2021 WAS 64 AND A HALF PERCENT, DESPITE EVERY MECHANICAL AND COSMETIC ASPECT OF MY VEHICLES BEING MORE DETERIORATED TODAY THAN THEY WERE A YEAR AGO.
I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT AN ANALYSIS OF VALUE OVER TIME WOULD SHOW A CONSISTENT PATTERN OF DIMINISHING VALUE FOR ALMOST EVERY VEHICLE LISTED IN THE NADH USED CARD GUIDE.
THE REDUCTION IN NEW VEHICLE INVENTORY DO NOT THE COVID, BUT RATHER THE RESULT OF GOVERNMENT INTRUSION AND OVERREACH CAUSED THE SPIKE IN DEMAND FOR USED VEHICLES, CREATING ENORMOUSLY INFLATED USED CAR VEHICLE VALUES TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY AND INJURY.
THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
AND I GET THAT NO ONE KNEW EXACTLY THE IMPACT OR MAGNITUDE OF THE INCREASE, BUT NEIL MORGAN, IN HIS 15 MARCH FISCAL YEAR, 2023 BUDGET MEMO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MADE IT CLEAR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ARE EXPECTED INCREASE OVERALL THAT SHOULD HAVE PROMPTED SOME PROACTIVE COURSE OF HIS COURSES OF ACTION.
THIS GOES, HE GOES ON TO ASSERT THAT OWNERS OF HIGH VALUED VEHICLES WILL SEE LARGER INCREASES THAN OWNER OWNERS OF LESS VALUABLE VEHICLES, GENERALLY IMPACTING LOWER INCOME FAMILIES, LESS ON WHAT DO YOU BASE THAT ASSERTION? AND ARE YOU ASSERTING THAT FAMILIES WHO DON'T GENERALLY FALL INTO THE LOWER INCOME CATEGORY AREN'T EQUALLY IMPACTED? I'VE HEARD THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DEVELOPING AN ALGORITHM TO PROVIDE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX CREDIT IN DECEMBER'S BILL.
WHILE IN MY OPINION, THE MOST EQUITABLE SOLUTION IRRESPECTIVE OF INCOME LEVEL IS TO TEMPORARILY ADJUST THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TEXT SO THAT THOSE EGREGIOUSLY INFLATED ASSESSMENTS RESULT IN A TAX MORE IN LINE WITH HISTORICAL VALUATIONS AND ALSO RETURNS THE TAXPAYER, THE OVERAGE TAX FROM THEIR JUNE 22, BILL KUDOS FOR PROVIDING RELIEF TO THOSE MOST IN NEED.
HOWEVER, THAT WAS TOTALLY REACTIVE AND FALLS SHORT OF, OF A REAL SOLUTION.
LASTLY, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HENRICO COUNTY DID TO MITIGATE THIS EXORBITANT TAX INCREASE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UH, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS FOR YOU.
UH, ONE 15 TIDES WERE ON YORKTOWN.
UM, I AM, UH, PETE'S YOUNGER BROTHER.
UM, AND I'M JUST DISMAYED AT THE CHANGE IN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT I'M HANDING OUT TO YOU ARE JUST COPIES OF MY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, UH, STATEMENTS ON THE SIX MONTH BASIS FOR 20 20, 20 21 AND 2022.
THE COVER SHEET IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THAT.
UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART I BELIEVE IS PROBABLY THE BOTTOM LINE, WHICH IS THE TOTAL TAX ON THE SIX MONTH BASIS.
UH, FROM 2020 TO 2021, IT ACTUALLY REDUCED SAME VEHICLES.
UH, ONE VEHICLES, THREE YEARS OLD, ONE VEHICLES, FIVE YEARS OLD, ONE VEHICLES, SEVEN YEARS OLD.
THE CHANGE FROM 2021 TO 2022 IS 400 BUCKS.
AND IN SIX MONTHS, UM, KIND OF SURPRISES ME.
I MEAN, IF, IF THERE'S 10,000 VEHICLES IN YOUR COUNTY THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THE SIMILAR TYPE OF, UH, INCREASE, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR'S WORTH OF TIME, THAT'S 10 MILLION BUCKS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? SO THAT'S MY PIECE.
UH, THE LAST ONE WE HAVE IS JAMES CHAPMAN.
MY NAME IS JAMES CHAPMAN AND, UH, FIRST I'D LIKE, AND I LIVE AT ONE 30 YORKSHIRE DRIVE AND A DISTRICT FOR MR. ROHN'S DISTRICT.
I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. MORGAN AND THE COUNTY AND THE BOARD FOR WHAT THEY DID ON THE MAINTAINING THE ROUTE 1 34.
I THINK IT WAS HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
IT IS A PLEASURE NOW TO DRIVE EITHER DIRECTION ON IT BECAUSE IT'S THE MAINTENANCE ON IT HAS GREATLY IMPROVED.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THAT.
UM, SECONDLY, UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
I DID SEND A LETTER IN TO Y'ALL THAT TALKING ABOUT MY CONCERNS, WHICH WAS IT.
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ONE VEHICLE THAT INCREASED 37%, ONE 47%.I JUST PAID MY FIRST SIX MONTHS BILL AND IT WAS $170 MORE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S SIX MONTH BILL.
UH, AND IT'S PROBABLY, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED VALUES OF THE VEHICLES USING FROM THAT NATIONAL GUIDEBOOK.
UM, AS I SAID, I JUST PAID MY, MY FIRST COURT, MY FIRST HALF TAXES AND IT'S ABOUT $177 THAT I EXPECT TO GET AS A DISCOUNT FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS PERIOD.
THAT WAS $177 AND 47 40 5 CENTS MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, SAME PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, AS I SAID IN MY LETTER, I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND RECREATE VALUE FOR THE VEHICLE.
SO I THINK IF YOU JUST GO BACK, I KNOW MR. MORGAN IS PROBABLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF AN AVERAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU GO BACK TO LAST YEAR'S STATEMENTS AND TAX, THAT THOSE SAME VALUES SHOULD BE REASONABLE AT REMOVES A LOT OF CALCULATIONS AND GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT TWO YEARS AND TRYING TO AVERAGE IT.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.
I THINK JUST GO BACK TO THE LAST PERIOD LAST TAX PERIOD, AND USE THE SAME VEHICLE PROCESS.
UM, THE, UH, AS I SAID, I EXPECT TO GET A REBATE OF ABOUT $170 FOR THE APPLICABLE DURING THE DECEMBER PERIOD.
AND, UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO CHECK IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
[1. Application UP-987-22, Karen Richardson. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22 105 to approve a Special Use Permit to authorize a tourist home in an existing dwelling at 213 Railway Road]
ONE WE HAVE TONIGHT IS, UH, THE APPLICATION OF KAREN RICHARDSON TO APPROVE IT TOURIST HOME AT 2 1 3 RAILROAD ROAD AND DRINKHEY, THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TOURIST HOME AND AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING LOCATED AT TWO 13 RAILWAY ROAD.
IF GRANTED THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE SITUATED INSIDE THEIR HOME AVAILABLE TO GUESTS.
THE 1.8 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE DARR AREA, LESS THAN A THIRD OF A MILE NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF DEER ROAD AND LAKESIDE DRIVE THE SUBJECT PARCEL.
AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ZONED RR, WHICH IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT.
BEYOND THAT OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, UH, TO THE EAST IS RAILWAY ROAD.
AND ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME BEYOND TO THE SOUTH IS RAILWAY ROAD BEYOND THAT IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME, AND AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
AND FINALLY TO THE WEST IS OLD RAILWAY ROAD AND THREE MORE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES BEYOND AN APPROXIMATE 970 SQUARE FOOT MOTHER-IN-LAW'S SUITE IS SITUATED WITHIN THE 4,033 SQUARE FOOT.
THE FLOOR PLAN SHOWS, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOME.
UH, THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE HAS A BEDROOM, BATHROOM, KITCHEN, AND DINING AREA, AND A LIVING ROOM, NO CHANGES TO THE EXISTING BUILDING OR SITE ARE PROPOSED.
THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
THE APPLICANTS WOULD BE PRESENT WHENEVER RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE, THE MAXIMUM RENTAL OCCUPANCY WOULD BE TWO PERSONS.
THE LENGTH OF STAY WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF ONE AND A MAXIMUM OF 90 NIGHTS.
AND THE USE PERMIT WOULD TERMINATE UPON THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY BY THE APPLICANT.
THE DWELLING IS SERVED BY TWO DRIVEWAYS, BOTH OF WHICH WERE APPROVED BY V DOT.
ONE OF THIS IS, UH, ONE IS LOCATED ON RAILWAY ROAD, ALONG THE DWELLINGS FRONTAGE.
AND THE OTHER IS ON OLD RAILWAY ROAD, WHICH SERVES THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE THREE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THE PROPOSED USE, THE EXISTING PAVED DRIVEWAYS AND TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE PROPERTY COULD EASILY ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF SPACES FOR THE TOURIST HOME, IF NECESSARY.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WOULD REQUIRE GUESTS WHO USE THE DRIVEWAY ON OLD RAILWAY ROAD.
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NOVITA ESTIMATES THAT RAILWAY ROAD CARRIES APPROXIMATELY 2300 VEHICLES PER DAY, BUT IT'S NOT PUBLISHED A RELIABLE ESTIMATE FOR OLD RAILWAY ROAD BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES, STAFF ESTIMATES THAT OLD RAILWAY ROAD CARRIES APPROXIMATELY 113 VEHICLES PER DAY.THUS STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THE PROPOSED TOURIST HOME WOULD HAVE A NOTICEABLE IMPACT ON EITHER RAILWAY OR OLD RAILWAY ROAD.
THERE ARE NO APPROVED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE DARE AREA WHERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
THE NEAREST APPROVED SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN OPERATION IS LOCATED ON OLD LANDING ROAD IN MAREL BANK FARMS, A DRIVING DISTANCE OF 6.2 MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
A CLOSER APPROVED SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS LOCATED AT 1.9 MILES AWAY ON YORKVILLE ROAD, BUT IT'S NO LONGER AN OPERATION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A RELATIVELY LARGE PARCEL IN A LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE ARE NO OTHER TOURIST HOMES.
AND IT'S SEPARATED FROM ALL SURROUNDING HOMES BY STREETS.
GIVEN THAT THE TOURIST HOME WOULD BE A ONE BEDROOM RENTAL WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO GUESTS AT A TIME STAFF BELIEVE IT WOULD NOT BE AN INTENSIVE OPERATION.
FURTHERMORE, THE OWNER WOULD RESIDE IN THE DWELLING WHILE RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE, UH, WHICH WOULD ENSURE THAT GUESTS BEHAVIOR WOULD BE MONITORED FOR THESE REASONS.
STAFF BELIEVED THE PROPOSED TOURISM WOULD NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEARBY PROPERTIES OR ON THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
AND BASED ON THE CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS AS NOTED STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 22 DASH 1 0 5.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AS WELL.
IN THE, UH, UM, DELIBERATIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE ISSUE OF THE NO MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE RENTALS, UH, CAME OUT.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT WAS THE FINAL, IS THERE, WAS THERE ANY ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAW AND WHAT YOU'RE GIVING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? YES, SIR.
UH, WE'VE ADDED A CONDITION THAT, UH, IN 90 DAYS.
OKAY, MR.
UH, WHAT, IF ANY INPUT DID WE GET FROM CITIZENS WHO LIVE IN AROUND THE FACILITY? SO WE, UM, WE SEE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT, UH, THAT THE APPLICANTS BROUGHT TO US.
AND WE ALSO HAD, UH, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, ONE CITIZEN WAS OPPOSED TO IT, UH, THAT LIVED RIGHT BEHIND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON OLD RAILWAY ROAD.
COULD, COULD YOU GO TO A PICTURE SHOWING THE OVERHEAD VIEW AGAIN, PLEASE? AT SOME POINT? OKAY.
YEAH, NO ZOOM INTO THAT PLACE NOW WHERE THE, THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE IS.
CAN YOU POINT RIGHT THERE? OKAY.
AND THEY GO TO PARK ON THE, ON THAT ROAD THERE.
I THINK YOU ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD, PARTICULARLY IN, UM, NO CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A, ANY TYPE OF RENTAL UNIT.
WHAT ABOUT, HAS THERE BEEN AN AGREEMENT ABOUT NOT APPLYING ANY SIGNAGE OR ANY DISCUSSION? GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS NOT, BUT DO YOU WANT TO DOUBLE-CHECK I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THE APPLICANT CAN, UM, CAN RESPOND TO.
AND THERE, THERE IS NOT A, A RESOLUTION, UH, CONDITION THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE A SIGN AND UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY'RE HERE, RIGHT? THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK HI.
THIS IS MY WIFE BACK HERE, KAREN RICHARDSON.
UH, AND WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE TOURIST HOME REGARDING THE SIGNAGE.
UH, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT ONCE.
I GUESS IT DIDN'T MAKE IT IN THERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO SIGN, SO WE'RE OKAY.
IF THERE IS WORDING IN THERE THAT SAYS THERE CAN'T BE ASSIGNED, UH, BUT EVEN IF THERE'S NOT THERE, WON'T BE ASSIGNED.
UH, WE HAVE THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE, SO JUST MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
UH, IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE HOUSE.
SO FOR JUST THE TWO OF US, UH, IT'S PRETTY BIG.
AND SO WE FIGURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN RENT OUT PART OF THIS.
UM, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF, OF, UH, RENTAL RATES WE'LL GET ON IT.
WE FIGURE OUR TARGET AUDIENCE IS PROBABLY FOLKS LIKE MILITARY OR SHORT-TERM CONTRACT WORKERS FOR THE HOSPITALS, SOMEONE LIKE A TRAVEL NURSE.
I KIND OF WISH THERE WAS LIKE A TRIAL PERIOD FOR THESE PERMITS SO THAT I COULD SAY, YEAH,
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IT'S, IT'S THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE.AND THEY GO IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY THIS MANY TIMES.
UM, BUT I JUST HAVE TO GUESS AT IT IN THE INTERIM, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST THE TWO OF US THAT LIVE THERE.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE OVERTAXING ANY RESOURCES OR ANYTHING IN THE AREA.
UM, AND REALLY I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE A ONE PERSON CARES TO SPEAK MATT SHIRTS.
SO YOU READY TO SPEAK AGAIN? ALL RIGHT.
DOES THAT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? UH, OUR 22 DASH 1 0 5 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 5 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR.
OKAY, THEN THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE IS
[2. Application UP-988-22, Michael and Valerie Marshall. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-106 to approve a Special Use Permit to authorize a tourist home at 714 Baptist Road.]
TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 6, TO APPROVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE A TOURIST HOME AT 7 1 4 BAPTIST ROAD.MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE A TOURIST HOME AT SEVEN 14 BAPTIST ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE ZONING MAP.
UH, IT'S ABOUT 1.3 ACRES, MUCH LARGER THAN YOUR TYPICAL R 13 LOT.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R 13, UH, AS IS THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN FACT, ALL OF THE, UH, LOTS IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY ARE FAIRLY LARGE, UH, FOR OUR 13, UH, IT'S A BIG HOUSE ON A LARGE PARCEL, UM, 3,100 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RENT OUT, UH, TWO UPSTAIRS BEDROOMS WITH A MAXIMUM OF SIX GUESTS.
UH, LENGTH OF STAY WOULD RANGE FROM A MINIMUM OF TWO TO A MAXIMUM OF 30 NIGHTS.
UM, THEIR PLAN IS TO RENT THE TWO BEDROOMS TOGETHER, UH, BUT THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER, UH, RENTING THE TWO, UH, BEDROOMS, UH, TO, UH, COUPLES THAT ARE TRAVELING TOGETHER.
UH, THEY WILL BE, THEY RESIDE IN A HOME AND THEY WILL BE PRESENT WHILE RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE, UH, ON THE ISSUE OF SIGNAGE.
THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF HAVING A SIGN AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT, UH, NO SIGNAGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
HERE'S THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS, UH, ALMOST IT'S MORE THAN FOUR TIMES, UH, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, UH, OF, UH, IN OUR 13.
AND HERE'S THE VIEW FROM THE STREET.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A TWO CAR GARAGE AND A VERY LARGE CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY, AND THERE IS ALSO PARKING AREA BY THE GARAGE SO THEY CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS FOUR SPACES.
IN THIS CASE, UH, THERE IS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE, UH, THAT THE GUESTS WOULD USE AS OFF OF THE GARAGE.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, UPSTAIRS FLOOR PLAN.
THIS IS WHERE THE, UH, RENTALS WOULD ACTUALLY BE TAKING PLACE.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL BEDROOMS UP THERE ONLY TWO WOULD BE OPEN, UH, TO, UH, RENTERS.
THE REST WOULD BE FOR STORAGE AND THEY HAVE A BONUS ROOM LIVING ROOM, KITCHEN ROOM, UH, AND THEN THIS IS THE DOWNSTAIRS.
UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT BASICALLY CHECKS ALL THE BOXES FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UH, THEY WILL BE ON THE PREMISES.
SO GUESTS WILL BE GUEST BEHAVIOR WILL BE MONITORED.
UM, IT'S A BIG HOUSE, A BIG PARCEL RELATIVELY, UH, THAT SECTION OF BAPTIST ROAD IS, IS KIND OF MORE SPARSELY DEVELOPED THAN THE REST OF, UH, BAPTIST ROAD.
SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF, UH, OUR 22 DASH 1 0 6 PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION BACK ON MAY 11TH, VOTED FOR ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THE MARSHALS ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CROSS? YES.
GOOD JOB ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I CAN ANSWER THEM EXCEPT FOR THE ONE.
UM, ANY PLAN ON CHANGES TO MAKE IT LOOK ANYTHING OTHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL HOME? NO, I'LL KEEP IT THE SAME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
NOW WITH THE APPLICANT CARE TO SPEAK GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR PROPOSAL.
WE ARE MIKE AND VALERIE MARSHALL OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY JUST
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PRESENTED TO YOU AT SEVEN 14 BAPTIST ROAD.WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OUR PLAN AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN 2018, WE MOVED BACK TO YOUR COUNTY TO DESIGN AND BUILD OUR RETIREMENT HOME, LIKE MANY PEOPLE OUR AGE, WE WANTED TO DOWNSIZE, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO LIMIT OPTIONS FOR OUR PERSONAL VISITORS.
WE HAVE LOCAL AND LONG DISTANCE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, PLUS FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY FOR SOMETIMES A WEEK TO A FEW MONTHS AT A TIME, WE DESIGNED THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF AUTONOMY FOR OUR GUESTS, AS WELL AS US, OUR DAUGHTER AND HER YOUNG FAMILY LIVED UPSTAIRS FOR THREE YEARS UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO BUY A HOME THEMSELVES.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE HOSTED FAMILY AND FRIENDS, APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE TIME, OUR GUESTS WERE BUSY.
OUR GOAL FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS TO MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY FOR OUR PERSONAL USE, BUT MAKE GOOD USE OF THE SPACE DURING ITS DOWNTIME.
IF WE ARE TRAVELING, WE WILL NOT RENT TO MULTIPLE PARTIES.
WE ALSO DO NOT PLAN TO ADVERTISE THE RENTAL MORE THAN A MONTH OR TWO IN ADVANCE AGAIN.
SO WE DON'T RESTRICT OUR OWN PERSONAL USE, OUR LOCATION, OUR LOCATION, AS WELL-SUITED FOR TOURISM.
HOWEVER, HOWEVER, WE ALSO WANT TO SERVE THE MILITARY COMMUNITY.
AFTER 30 YEARS IN THE AIR FORCE, WE ARE PERSONALLY AWARE HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE TO FIND REASONABLE AND SAFE HOUSING DURING TRANSITIONS.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WITH CHILDREN AND A PET.
OUR LOCATION IS CONVENIENT TO BOTH THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION AND FORT EUSTIS.
WE HAVE MADE DIRECT CONTACT WITH FOUR OF OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
ALL OF WHOM EXPRESSED NO CONCERNS WITH OUR PLAN.
WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT ANY TRAFFIC ON BAPTIST ROAD GENERATED BY OUR RENTAL WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE TRAFFIC CREATED BY OUR DAUGHTER.
AND SON-IN-LAW WHEN THEY LIVED ON THE PREMISES FOR THREE YEARS, THE TWO CAR PARKING PAD ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RENTERS.
THERE'S AMPLE SPACE FOR OUR TWO VEHICLES, PLUS ANY PERSONAL VISITORS VEHICLES THAT MAY BE ONSITE.
AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND MR. CRM, BUT YOU SAID YOU HAD A QUESTION, UH, RIGHT.
WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THE TWO BEDROOMS AND THE SIX, UH, ATTENDEES.
UH, WHAT IF THE ATTENDEES, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE SIX ADULTS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO VISIT THIS WONDERFUL PLACE? UH, WHETHER IT'S YOUR TOWN, JAMESTOWN, WILLIAMSBURG, I'M DOWN HERE, RELAXED, MAYBE PARTY.
HOW DO YOU GET HAND? HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE SIX ADULTS IN TWO BEDROOMS? THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLANT.
AND OUR THOUGHT WITH THE SIX WAS IF IT'S A FAMILY WITH CHILDREN, ONE BEDROOM HAS A KING SIZE BED.
THE OTHER BEDROOM HAS A QUEEN AND A TWIN.
SO TECHNICALLY WE COULD DO FIVE ADULTS, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR TARGET POPULATION.
SO YOU, YOU ABLE TO TALK ABOUT FAMILIES WITH MAYBE KIDS, UH, ALONG WITH THE ADULTS, MOM, AND DAD, CORRECT? LIKE, OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTION? SEE NONE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 6.
TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. GREEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS CONSIDERED THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2 22 DASH 12, TO AMEND THE JOINT COLONIAL GROUP HOME COMMISSIONED EXERCISE OF POWERS AGREEMENT.
AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON BRYAN FULLER TO DISCUSS THAT.
WHAT HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION.
[3. Hickory Hills Pump Station Rehabilitation Project. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-107 to enter upon and take a certain permanent utility easement in connection with the Hickory Hills Pump Station Rehabilitation Project.]
NUMBER THREE IS A PROPOSED RESOLUTION, R 22 DASH 1 0 7, HICKORY HILLS HUB STATION REHABILITATION, REHABILITATION OBJECT CALLED RICHARD HILL FOR BRIEF PRESENTATION.THE, UH, THIS IS A PUMP STATION.
WELL, WE HAVE A PUMP STATION, UH, OFF OF HICKORY HILLS DRIVE IN DISTRICT ONE OF THE COUNTY AND THE PUMP STATION NEEDS SOME UPGRADE AND REPAIRS.
AND IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, THE, UH,
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THEY NEED TO INSTALL THREE PHASE POWER, WHICH NECESSITATES THE ACQUISITION OF A EASEMENT, UH, FOR USE OF DOMINION POWER AND THE PACKET OF THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED.THERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED EASEMENT.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE ACQUIRED AND FOR REFERENCE, UH, THE MAP THAT, UH, THAT THAT WAS PROVIDED THAT'S NOW ON THE, UM, THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE, AT THE TABLE HERE HAS THE CORRECT, UH, NOTATIONS ON IT.
THERE WAS A PREVIOUS VERSION OF IT THAT SEEMED TO SUGGEST THAT THE ENTIRE YELLOW SLIP WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN.
WHEN IN FACT, THE ONLY PART THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE TAKEN AS PART OF THE CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS IS THE LITTLE BLUE SQUARE FOR USE FOR THE POWER EASEMENT STAFF HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN DISCUSSING THIS MATTER WITH THE, UM, LANDOWNER AND WELL, THE, THE ERRORS AND ERRORS AND ERRORS OF THE LANDOWNER WHO, UH, TO TRY TO, UH, COME TO A RESOLUTION.
AND THAT HAS PROVEN THUS FAR TO NOT HAVE BE, UM, SUCCESSFUL.
AND AS A RESULT, THE, UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF THE NECESSITY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, UM, IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE, UM, WE COME TO THE BOARD AND ASK THE BOARD TO, UH, AUTHORIZE THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS.
IN THIS MATTER, THE BOARD, THE COUNTY STAFF HAS ASSESSED, OR THE VALUE OF THE EASEMENT AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND IS PROPOSING TO, UM, PAY THAT AMOUNT AS PART OF THE CERTIFICATE OF TAKE THE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEEMED TO BE A IMPORTANT, CRITICAL NEED BECAUSE IT'S A PUMP STATION AND IT NEEDS AN UPGRADE AND IT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS.
HOW BIG IS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? THE ENTIRE, THE PIECE THAT WE NEED TO CAUSE BLUE, THE BLUE SQUARE IT IS.
LET'S SEE EXACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT THAT THAT DOMINION HAS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 15 FEET BY ROUGHLY 24 FEET.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS IMPASSE WITH THE, WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS? ARE THAT ERRORS? W WHAT'S WHAT'S THE HANGUP? I, I THERE'S A, THERE WAS A QUESTION OF THE VALUE, UM, THAT WAS BEING OFFERED, UM, THAT WAS UNABLE TO BE, TO BE RESOLVED.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS THERE IS ALSO AN I, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS AND I APOLOGIZE THERE WAS, THERE'S A POTENTIAL ISSUE WITH THE TITLE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY, UM, WAS IT'S TITLED IN THE NAME OF AN ESTATE AND THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, DIED, UH, I THINK AROUND 20 2001.
AND THE, THERE WAS NO LIST OF HEIRS FILED ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.
AND THERE'S, THERE SEEMS, THERE'S A QUESTION AT THIS POINT THAT EXISTS REGARDING, UM, THE POWERS OF THE HEIRS TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE SOME POTENTIAL, UM, COMPLICATED MANEUVERINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT CLEAR TITLE PASSES.
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT IF THE COUNTY WERE TO PROCEED WITH THE CONDEMNATION, THAT CLEAR TITLE WOULD PASS UPON THE, UM, THE FILING OF THE CERTIFICATE, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE COMPLICATED POTENTIAL TITLE ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY, AND THEN EVERYTHING CAN BE RESOLVED ON THE BACK END OF THE, OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
SO IT SOUNDED LIKE WHERE DOES A DOLLAR FIGURE IMPASSE, HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING? I WOULD, UM, I THINK I'LL DEFER TO MR. KRIEGER POTENTIALLY WHO COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW LONG THEY POTENTIAL NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON WITH THE, WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS.
YES, I THINK PRETTY MUCH THEY'D BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT MY NOTES, BUT IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, EARLY SPRING INTO THE WINTER, BUT, AND MR. BARNETT DID, UM, MAIL TO, UM,
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MS. RAIDER, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE ESTATE OF MR. SMITH, A LETTER BACK IN, UH, ON MAY 25TH NOTIFYING OF THE, UM, OF HIS INTENTION TO BRING THIS MATTER TO THE MORE, ALL RIGHT.SO HOW, W W WE'RE GETTING POWER THERE TODAY? HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? WHY CAN WE USE THE SAME EASEMENT TO RUN THE THREE-PHASE BAR? I MEAN, I KNOW MAYBE GETTING OUT OF YOUR LANE THERE AND THAT I WOULD DEFER TO MR. KRIEGER TO ANSWER SOME OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO THE PUMP STATION ENTERED SERVICE IN 1982, THE POWER COMES IN FROM HICKORY HILLS AND IT'S THE PUMP STATION IS CURRENTLY ON SINGLE PHASE POWER, RIGHT? SO TO UPGRADE TO THE BIGGER PUMPS AND RENOVATE THE WET WELL, WHICH IS DETERIORATING, WE NEED THREE PHASE POWER AND THAT'S TO HANDLE THE PEAK FLOWS AND PRESSURES OF THE SOLID WASTE.
UM, THE POWER, THE MOST VIABLE WAY IT COMES IN AND HAS TO CROSS THAT EASEMENT FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
AND YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM POWER LINES, UH, VIRGINIA POWER.
WE'LL BRING IT OFF THE POWER LINES.
IT'S REQUIRED TO BE UNDERGROUND, AND THEY REQUIRE AN EASEMENT.
SO WE CAN'T USE EXIST IN EASEMENTS FOR EXISTED POWER.
WE HAVE TO GO DO ANOTHER, RIGHT.
UM, SO SOMEBODY, I ASK A QUESTION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO DO WE GIVE UP THE OTHER EASEMENT? UH, YES, WE WOULD.
WE WOULDN'T NEED THE POWER FROM THE SINGLE PHASE.
CAUSE DOES THAT, DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVE PART OF THAT EASEMENT? WE'D GIVE UP? NO.
LOOK, POWER COMES FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
SO SOMEBODY RAISED THEIR HAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
I HAD A, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE TURN.
UH, ONE, A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR AN EASEMENT SEEMS REASONABLE.
UH, I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE TRIED HARDER TO DO THIS AND GET THIS DONE.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS WHY ARE WE DOING IT INSTEAD OF DOMINION ENERGY? BECAUSE IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE FOR DOMINION ENERGY TO BE OBTAINING THIS EASEMENT FOR THEIR POWER, THEIR THREE-PHASE POWER TO GO THROUGH.
I THINK NORMALLY WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE EASEMENTS FOR THE POWER COMPANY AND CONVEY IT TO THEM FOR USE FOR A PUBLIC PROJECT THAT IS, UM, FOR THE COUNTY.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PROPER, THE ENTIRE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS VALUED AND TAX RECORDS AS FOR A $2,400, HOW MUCH $2,400 IS THE ENTIRE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LIKE NANCY RAIDER, YOU SIGNED UP.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE? HI, UH, I'M NANCY RAIDER AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN GLOUCESTER AND YOU CAN'T HEAR, I'M SORRY, A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE.
AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN GLOUCESTER COUNTY.
THIS WAS A, I DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR HERES THIS WAS AN INVESTMENT WHICH YOU ADDRESS.
YOU ARE CAVAN LANE, GLOUCESTER, VIRGINIA.
THIS WAS AN INVESTMENT PIECE OF MY PR MY DAD'S FROM MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT'S EVEN LEFT.
UH, DIDN'T EVEN FIND OUT ABOUT IT UNTIL MAYBE HALF A DOZEN YEARS AGO.
AND AFTER EVERYTHING WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST NOTHING WAS THERE.
I HAVE ONE LIVING BROTHER WHO, UH, I TAKE CARE OF, UM, GUARDIAN CHIP FOR, AND, UM, HE'S HAD A STROKE.
HE'S BEEN IN REHAB FOR THE LAST YEAR CAMP.
YOU KNOW, HE'S BEDRIDDEN, CAN'T MOVE HIS RIGHT SIDE.
I, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT ON MY PLATE.
I, I'M GLAD OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ASKED, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY NOW AND WILL THE FUTURE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND NOW THEY WANT ME, THEY DON'T SEE, YOU SEEM TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT I HAVE JUMPED THROUGH HOOPS TO TRY TO GET THEM WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
AS FAR AS I'VE OFFERED THEM, I'VE SHOWN THEM THE GUARDIANSHIP PAPERWORK I'VE GIVEN THEM MY SISTER'S WILL, WHICH PASSED EVERYTHING TO ME OF ANY INTERESTS OF HERS, YOU KNOW, NOBODY ELSE HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT I CAN FIND, YOU KNOW, WILLS, UM, AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO THEN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I'VE I'VE AND THEN I, THEY TOLD ME I NEEDED TO DO THE LIST OF HEIRS.
I WENT AND DID THE LIST OF HEIRS, BUT THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT, OR DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THAT OR ACCEPT THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE DONE, I'M WORKING WITH THEM AND I FELT THAT THE PROPERTY WAS WORTH MORE SINCE I'M PAYING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND, BUT THAT'S STILL NOT EVEN THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH NUMBERS AND NOW THEY CAME DOWN TO THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND SAY, OH, THEY SENT ME PAPERWORK TO ACCEPT IT.
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WOULD HAVE DONE IF I'D HAD JUST SIGNED THAT PAPERWORK AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN BE GONE, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S STILL SO MANY QUESTIONS SUCH AS WHAT DOES CONDEMNATION MEAN? I MEAN, DOES THAT MEAN YOU TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM ME AND THAT'S IT, AND THEN YOU CAN CONVEY CLEAR TITLE, BUT YOU WON'T CONVEY CLEAR TITLE TO ME, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I'M THE HEIR, SO WHAT DOES CON I MEAN, SO DO YOU GET TO TAKE THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACCEPT WHAT I HAVE BELIEVED, I HAVE WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE ACCEPTANCE OF HEIRS AND WHAT, BUT THEY KEEP WANTING ME TO DO OTHER THINGS.IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY'VE ADDED.
SO I'VE TRIED AND I'M WORKING WITH THEM.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WORRY ABOUT THIS CONDEMNATION THING IS THE LAST PIECE OF THING THAT I'VE GOT FROM MY DAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY NOT LIKE ANYBODY TO TAKE IT FROM ME, YOU KNOW? UM, SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THIS.
AND THEN FOR ME TO HAVE TO GO TO ATTORNEYS AND DO WHATEVER, I MEAN TO REALLY THROW IT SHOULD NOT JUST COMPENSATION INCLUDE ALL OF THAT AS WELL, YOU KNOW? OH, THANK YOU.
WELL, I JUST, I MEAN, IT KIND OF A QUESTION AND COMMENT HERE.
SO HOW BIG A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU OWN, THERE? THEY SAY IT'S A TOTAL OF 0.6, SIX ACRES.
I MEAN, BECAUSE IT RUNS ALONG THE BACKSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DID THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, MAN.
UM, THIS PROPERTY RUNS A LONG, PROBABLY A GOOD NINE, EIGHT OR NINE HOMES, OR AT LEAST THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
UH, AND I WAS HOLDING ONTO IT.
I MEAN, I JUST WAS HOLDING ON TO, I WAS PAYING TAXES BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST VERY TIME CONSUMING AND POTENTIALLY EXPENSIVE.
HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR THE PROPERTY? WELL, I, FOR THE EASEMENT, FOR THE EASEMENT, I, I, UH, I WAS ASKING $2,500, BUT THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS ONLY WORTH 2,400 BUCKS.
WELL, I AM NEGOTIABLE, BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T MATTER.
I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST THE LAST THING.
IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NEGOTIABLE, BUT, UH, BUT I FIGURED IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ATTORNEY FEES AND YOU KNOW, THE COST AND I'M PAYING TAXES HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES, MY DAD'S BEEN PAYING TAXES AND I'LL NEVER USE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL EVER USE THE PROPERTY, BUT I DID WANT TO RAISE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MINE.
SO, UM, THERE'S KIND OF TWO ISSUES HERE.
AND HONESTLY, WHEN I WAS FOCUSED ON IS WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT PUMP STATION.
THERE'S A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS, DEPENDING ON THAT AND SHAME ON US.
IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE SAME ISSUE AS HOW MUCH THIS IS WORTH.
THE ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE TO HELP ME HERE.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING MS. RADER SAYING ABOUT HER COSTS AND IT WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE UNREASONABLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE PUT FORWARD, UH, SUBJECT TO THAT.
IT HAS TO BE NEGOTIATED IN COURT AND ALL THAT.
ANYWAY, I BELIEVE I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD SEPARATE THE TWO ISSUES.
WE SIMPLY NEED CONTROL OF THAT LITTLE PIECE OF AN EASEMENT SO WE CAN BUILD A PUMP STATION TO HELP THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE BOARD COULD DIRECT US TO PUT SOME MORE SIGNIFICANT SONG IN ESCROW AND DIRECT THE ATTORNEY TO TRY TO WORK WITH MS. RAIDER, UM, TO SORT IT OUT IN A WAY THAT'S EQUITABLE.
REALLY, THE ONLY THING THE COUNTY CARES ABOUT IS NOT LETTING THAT PUMP STATION DETERIORATE.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR ONLY REAL CONCERN, RIGHT? UH, I WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO THAT.
I, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'RE GONNA SPEND IN MONEY.
YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY, NET 2,500 OR $2,400 PIECE OF PROPERTY PROBABLY IS NOT THE DRIVING DOWN FROM THAT.
BUT I THINK WE DO THIS A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF A HUNDRED, CALL IT A DAY AND WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO IF YOU ALL GET TOGETHER THE WHOLE PIECE, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO HERE'S IT, THIS A QUESTION, THE QUESTION I'VE GOT IS WHAT, WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS HAVE? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
LIKE WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS HAVE ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY? IT'S ON DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY.
SO WHY DON'T WE GIVE HER, GIVE HER, JUST TAKE THE WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY OR THE VALUE FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT THAT YOU COULD USE IT, BUT IT'S YOURS AND IT'S YOUR FAMILY.
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SO THAT'S WHAT YOUR FATHER HAD.SO WHAT IF THE BOARD, UM, UH, DIRECTED US TO PUT $2,500 IN ESCROW AND ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, JUST DIRECT US TO PROCEED WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT PUT THAT MONEY AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO ASSIST MISS RADER AND WORKING OUT, WHETHER IT'S YOUR TITLE ISSUE OR BUYING THE EASEMENT AND GIVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY A LITTLE AUTHORITY TO WORK OUT SOMETHING THAT'S FAIR, WHERE WE JUST WANT TO FIX THE PUMP STATION.
AND I'M SURE YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY AS WE DO, EXCEPT THAT YOU IT'S CONFUSING TO YOU.
AND SO I, I WOULD GO ALONG WITH, I'M DOING EVERYTHING THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, TO HELP YOU TO WORK, WORK IN THAT DIRECTION.
THERE'S JUST ONE THING WHEN YOU SAY PROCEED WITH DOING KIND OF, SHE MEANS WE TAKE YOUR PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT CONDEMNATION MEANS BY LAW.
IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, THEY DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT BY LAW STATE OF VIRGINIA, THE COUNTY CAN TAKE YOUR PROPERTY OKAY.
FOR PUBLIC, FOR PUBLIC USE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S IT'S TO ENHANCE THE SEWER SYSTEM FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THAT SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
NOW, THE QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD DO IS, AS WE'VE SEEN MANY TIMES, IS IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH THE CONDEMNATION, HOWEVER, OKAY.
THE COURTS WILL ALWAYS RULE IN THE, IN THE MUNICIPALITIES FAVOR, WHAT YOU GO FOR IS THE VALUE.
AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID HERE, BECAUSE A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, IF YOU HAD TO GET A LAWYER TO GO TO COURT TO SAY THAT THE PROPERTY IS WORTH MORE THAN A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO IT JUST IN SIMPLE TERMS, WE GOT TO PUT THE IN, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ENGINEERING METHOD HERE, WE'VE GOT TO GO ACROSS THAT.
WE GOT TO TAKE THAT PROPERTY, PUT THE, UH, THE POWER LINE IN FOR THE PUMP STATION, OR THEY COULD BE A FAILURE OF THE PUMP STATION, WHICH WOULD AFFECT ALL THOSE HOMES ON SPRINGFIELD, DRIVE A CREE HILLS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WELL, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE MY PROPERTY.
WELL, I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM MR. MORGAN WAS TO PROCEED WITH SOME TYPE OF MONEY IN AN ASPRO TO HELP WITH THE EASEMENT OBTAINING AND NOT CUT.
HE'S MEANT AS DIFFERENT IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAN TAKING PROPERTY.
JUST WAIT A MINUTE, WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK FIRST, THE LAWYER OR THE COUNTY.
I WAS JUST GOING TO NOTE THAT IT IS NOT A TAKING OF THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I DON'T CARE TO SAY ANY OF IT.
WELL, IT IS ALSO NOT A TAKING OF, OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN EASEMENT, WHICH IS A WRITER.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CLEAR OF IS THAT IT IS NOT A TAKING OF YOU OWNERSHIP BECAUSE, BECAUSE IN THIS IT'S, IT'S ONE OF HIS WRITINGS.
HE SAYS THAT, THAT THEY CAN, THE COURTS CAN GIVE CLEAR TITLE.
SO TITLE TO ME MEANS YOU'RE GETTING TITLE.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SOMETHING RIGHT QUICK.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, TO HAVE AN EXTRA MONTH, UH, WITH THIS AND, UH, MAYBE TRY TO MAKE SOME REAL NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN BRING IT BACK? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS, IT IS THE PUMPING STATION IS FAILING OR BECAUSE ROSS NOT GONNA FALL APART.
I THINK, I DON'T THINK A MONTH WOULD, UM, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.
I I'M CONCERNED WITH YOUR QUESTION.
I NEED AN ENGINEER TO TELL US THAT THIS NOT GOING TO FALL APART.
SO ENGINEER OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENGINEERING COME UP AND TELL US HOW LONG THIS CAN ALL WITHOUT US AND UP WITH ANOTHER CRISIS.
I THINK WE'D BE ALL RIGHT WITH ANOTHER MONTH.
THE THING IS IS YOU NO LONGER, YOU PUT OFF MAINTENANCE, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE LONG RUN.
AND EVERY SPILL IS REPORTABLE BY LAW.
SO WE JUST NEED THE UPGRADE, BUT IF THEY COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT IN 30 DAYS AND WE COULD GET THE POWER, IT'S 360 SQUARE FEET, WE NEED TO JUST GO UNDER THE, AN END TO THE EASEMENT.
AND I THINK MR. HILL, IF YOU COULD HELP WITH THE EXPLANATION, WHEN YOU SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT KIND OF NATION VERSUS EASEMENTS AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS, I THINK THAT MAY HELP HELP HER UNDERSTAND BETTER.
WHAT THEY ASK IS SATISFACTORY.
SO I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT OR CONTINUE IT.
HOWEVER, CONTINUE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IT COSTS MORE THAN THE PROPERTY.
SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, WHICH IS IN JULY, UH, JULY 19TH.
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PART OF THE DISCUSSION.I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION OUR POINT, BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING THIS.
THE, THE EASEMENT REQUIREMENTS.
FOR THIS THING REQUIRES THEY CERTAIN WIDTH, CERTAIN LENGTH IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT A DEFINITION.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS, AND I DON'T, THIS IS FOR ANY SCHMUCK RESIDENT.
I MEAN MYSELF, EVERYBODY, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH THIS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU WALK IN HERE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOSING YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THE EASEMENT, IF SOMEBODY WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN EASEMENT ISSUE AND IT IS, BUT THE THING IS WE DID GET AN EASEMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S THE SAME AS SOME YOU LOSING ACCESS AND RIGHT TO YOUR PROPERTY.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT REALLY, REALLY CLEAR.
SO WE TALK ABOUT CONDEMNATION AND WE TALK ABOUT EASEMENT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS BASICALLY WITH AN EASEMENT HERE IS TAKING YOUR PROPERTY.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD GO OUT AND MOW IT.
OKAY? YOU RUN HORSES ACROSS IT.
YOU CAN'T GATE, YOU CAN'T PUT A GATE AROUND IT OR YOU CAN'T PUT A FENCE AROUND IT UNLESS WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE GATE.
AND IF WE HAVE TO DIG IT UP, THEN WE HAVE TO DIG IT UP.
WE'LL DIG UP, WHATEVER WE GOTTA DO TO PUT IT IN.
SO THERE'S NO SIMPLE, EASY WAY TO SAY THAT THIS IS JUST AN EASEMENT OR TAKING THE PROBLEM.
THAT CHALLENGE YOU HAVE MA'AM IS THAT WHAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO DO LEGALLY IS BASICALLY TAKE THAT PROPERTY AND USE IT FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO IN IAN, IN THE END, YOU'LL BE PAID FOR THE EASEMENT, ALTHOUGH YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, YOU COULD, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN WALK ACROSS IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PAY TAXES.
I DON'T THINK YOU PAY TAXES ON IT, BUT JUST THE WHOLE POINT.
AND FOREVER, I WILL BE PAYING TAXES ON IT FOR EVERYBODY.
WELL, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ABOUT THAT PART, BUT OKAY.
AND THEY KEEP UPPING THE PROPERTY PRICE.
I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WELL, JUST TO MR. SHEPHERD'S POINT REAL QUICK, PLEASE.
I THINK THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS IF YOU, IN AN EASEMENT SITUATION, I STILL HAVE TITLED THE PROPERTY.
AND IF IN THE FUTURE THEY WANT, SHE WANTS TO SELL THE ENTIRE STRIPS.
BUT IF THERE'S A CONDEMNATION, SHE LOSES THAT LITTLE PIECE AND ONLY OWNS THE TWO PIECES.
NOW, IN THIS CASE, IT'S LOUISVILLE, BUT IT COULD BE A BIGGER PIECE OF PROPERTY TOO.
BUT WAYNE IS THAT PER PERSON, THAT PERSON THAT OWNS A PERSON THAT OWNS A LOT.
AND YOU, ON THE LOT, YOU SELL YOUR LAWN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A UTILITY EASEMENT ACROSS THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY.
THAT IS NOT UNUSUAL IN A SUBDIVISION OR ANY PLACE.
THE THING IS THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EVEN PUT A FENCE ACROSS THE EASEMENT.
WE DON'T PUT IT ON, WE DON'T PUT IT ON DRAINAGE.
AND IF THE UTILITIES HAVE TO GET TO IT, UH, IF YOU BUILD A SHED ON IT, GUESS WHAT? YOU BETTER HAVE PUT IT ON SKIDS THAT YOU POLISH IT OFF OF IT.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT THE POINT IS, IS NOT YOUR, REALLY YOUR PROPERTY PER SE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO WHICH ALL YOU WANT TO DO ON YOUR PROPERTY.
NO, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE EITHER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WANT EVERYTHING INTACT BECAUSE IT HAS ACCESS TO VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S A BIG DEBATE GOING ON UP HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE WANT YOU TO GO BACK.
WE WANT TO GO BACK AND HAVE LAWYERS GET WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST, WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO MAN WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A WOMAN.
I WOULD HOPE SO AT ANY RATE, I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO CONTINUE PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 22 DASH 1 0 7 TO ENTER PAWN AND TAKE A CERTAIN PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT WITH THE HICKORY HILLS PUMP STATION REHABILITATION PROGRESS PROJECT TO JULY 19TH, 2022.
[4. Amend the Joint Colonial Group Home Commission Exercise of Powers Agreement. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 22-12 to amend the Joint Colonial Group Home Commission Exercise of Powers Agreement between the Counties of York, James City, and Gloucester and City of Williamsburg to change the name to Colonial Juvenile Services Commission]
WE'LL GO TO NUMBER FOUR.UH, AND INSTEAD OF THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE 22 DASH 12, TO AMEND THAT JOINT COLONIAL GROUP HOME COMMISSION TO SIZE OF POWERS AGREEMENT TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT, TO CHANGE THE NAME TO COLONIAL JUVENILE SERVICES COMMISSION, BRIAN KOHLER, PLEASE.
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GOOD EVENING.MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS IS JUST MORE OR LESS A HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BEFORE AND AS IT WENT TO THE THREE OTHER LOCALITIES, UH, THE CITY OF OUR GLOUCESTER COUNTY HAD AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE WORDING AND SOME OF THE CODE STRUCTURE.
SO WE WENT BACK AND REWORK THE AGREEMENT, UH, TO DATE ALL THREE OTHER LOCALITIES GLOUCESTER JAMES CITY, AND WE USE WORK HAVE APPROVED THIS REVISED AGREEMENT.
SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK TO, TO CLARIFY THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BOARD COMMENTS.
IF ANY, IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL I'LL UH, MOVE, UM, MOTION, UH, 2212.
OPPOSED ORDINANCE THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROWAN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH 12, TO AMEND THE JOINT COLONIAL GROUP HOME COMMISSION, EXERCISE OF POWERS AGREEMENT.
[5. Proposed Amendment of County Code § 21-7.3, Administrative Refunds. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 22-3 to amend County Code Section 21-7.3 to eliminate the necessity of certification by the County Attorney on Administrative refunds on business, professional, and occupational license (BPOL) taxes of up to $5000.]
NEXT ORDINANCE PROPOSAL IS A NUMBER 22 DASH THREE, YOUR COUNTY CODE AMENDMENT ADMINISTRATIVE REFUNDS TO ADMIN AMEND SECTIONS OF THE COUNTY CODE RICHARD HILL, PLEASE.SO THIS IS, UM, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THIS IS A, UM, CHANGE THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED BASED ON A CHANGE OF VIRGINIA LAW WHEREBY UH, INSTEAD OF A $2,500 THRESHOLD FOR REFUNDS.
UH, THERE IS NOW A $5,000 THRESHOLD AT WHICH ABOVE WHICH THE BOARD HAS TO BE NOTIFIED AND PROVIDE.
UM, YOU'D GET PERMISSION FROM THE BOARD.
SO IT'S PROMPTED BY A CHANGE IN VIRGINIA LAW.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST.
WASN'T THAT ALSO PART OF THE, UM, ORDINANCE TO, UM, REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR PROVIDING CERTIFICATION BELOW $5,000.
WASN'T THAT PART OF THIS AS WELL? THAT THEY COULD JUST, JUST CHANGE THE THRESHOLD FROM 2,500 TO 5,000, BUT IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING BOTH OF THAT.
THEN I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYBODY CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS QUESTION.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I'LL MOVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 22 DASH THREE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH THREE, TO AMEND A COUNTY CODE SECTION 21 DASH 7.3 ADMINISTRATIVE REFUNDS.
YES, MRS. NO, I SHOULDN'T CARRY.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
OKAY.WE'RE DOWN TO THE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR AND FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE STILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WE'LL FOLLOW THAT, UH, THAT WE'LL FOLLOW THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UH, NUMBERS ITEM NUMBER SIX IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
NUMBER SEVEN IS A WALMART REAL ESTATE TRUST.
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE EXPANSION OF WALMART, UH, AND THE PEOPLE OF ART AND ROUTE 17.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE REQUEST FOR REFUND FOR REAL PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, NUMBER NINE IS A BYPASS ROAD SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, NUMBER 10 IS THE URGENT AND EMERGENCY SEWER REPAIRS, ANNUAL CONTRACT.
AND NUMBER 11 IS A TAB FIRE STATION FUEL POINT NUMBER TWO, UPGRADE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THERE THAT ANYBODY WOULD CARE TO DISCUSS A POLL? NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE.
WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK, I, TIM CROSS, ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON THE WALMART ISSUE? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? SO THEY'RE THE REASON I WANT TO PULL THAT REAL QUICK.
IS IT MS. MORGAN? I JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED WADA BUS TERMINATION ARE IN THAT PLACE.
THEY'VE GOT TO DO THE EXPANSION.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS WADA AWARE OF THAT? ARE THEY WORKING AROUND THAT? ARE THEY, WERE THEY PLANNING FOR IT? OH YEAH, NO, THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
THEY'RE WORKING A WALMART AND WATER WORKING TOGETHER TO FIND THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT
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STATION STOP.SO W WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE CHANGE, IT'S NOT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, THEY KNOW THE CHANGES WANT TO KNOW, KNOWS THE CHANGES ARE COMING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF THE PLAN.
IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY, MOVE THE MOTION, PLEASE REMOVE ALL CALL, PLEASE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. GREEN.
MR. ROAD, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. ZAREMBA.
NOW WE'LL GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND MR. HILL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? I DO NOT.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. MORGAN, THE YOUNG LADY, UH, DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE 4TH OF JULY EVENTS, BUT I SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION THAT SINCE THIS IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE OUR 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION.UM, IN ADDITION TO THE ONES SHE MENTIONED, THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE THE NINE O'CLOCK PARADE, THE TRADITIONAL PARADE.
UH, WE HAVE OTHER ACTIVITIES INTERSPERSED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
AND THEN, UH, AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, THERE WAS A JAZZ BAND CONCERT AND OF COURSE THE FIREWORKS AT NINE 15.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A GOOD EVENT AND WE'LL HOPE FOR GOOD WEATHER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHO GETS BLAMED IF THERE'S A THUNDERSTORM AND THE WEATHER MESSES IT UP, THE PARK SERVICE, THE PARK SERVICE IS THE ONE THAT YOU HAD TO WORRY ABOUT.
UM, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MR. ROME, UH, MR. SHEPHERD, DID YOU TAKE A MOMENT AND KIND OF GIVE US A HIGHLIGHT ON THE LITTLE, GET AT YOU AND THINKING ABOUT HIM? MAYBE IT WAS A TRICK QUESTION.
MR. S MR. MORGAN, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, GIVE US SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON THE, UH, ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF PLAN? I KNOW YOU AND I JUST SPOKE ON THURSDAY.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT FOR NEW FOR ME, BUT PROBABLY SOME NEW STUFF FOR THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE.
UH, AT THE LAST MEETING I GAVE YOU AN OUTLINE OF OUR PLAN AND STILL A LOT OF THINGS TO BE FIGURED OUT, BUT GOT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, UH, THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU.
OF COURSE, I DESCRIBED THE GENERAL IDEA AND THE JUNE 3RD, THIRD, UH, MEMO, UH, AND WE'VE DONE TWO THINGS, UH, TO MITIGATE THE, THE JUNE BILLING CYCLE, MODEST, ALBEIT, UM, MEANINGFUL.
UH, WE, WE STOOD UP A HARDSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH IS RUN THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN COOPERATION WITH, UH, THE TREASURY AND THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.
THUS FAR, WE'VE HAD, UH, 11 APPLICATIONS AND 10 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED THE PROGRAM.
AND, UH, WITH YOUR SUPPORT, THE TREASURER HAS A EXTENDED PERIOD OF THE 2% TAX PENALTY, UH, UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH MEANS THAT IF SOMEBODY WAS CAUGHT BY SURPRISE WITH THEIR BILL, THEY COULD BASICALLY, UH, FINANCE THAT OVER THE SUMMER, UH, AT VERY COST, A FEW DOLLARS.
AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT YET BECAUSE OF COURSE IT NEVER HAVE A DEADLINE YET.
SO LATER IN THE SUMMER WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT ON, WELL, HOW MANY FOLKS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF, OF THAT? UH, THE BIG, UH, LIFT OBVIOUSLY IS FIGURING OUT A WAY TO DO A BILL REDUCTION FOR THE DECEMBER PAYMENT CYCLE.
AND, UM, UH, IT'S A TEAM OF STAFF FOLKS WORKING ON THAT, INCLUDING FINANCE, UH, COMMISSIONER TREASURER, COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO SEND YOU A PRETTY DETAILED REPORT AROUND THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST.
AND THEN IT IS MY PRELIMINARY INTENTION TO, AT OUR AUGUST WORK SESSION, UH, SORT OF GO INTO THE SAUSAGE MAKING OF WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND HOW IT WOULD WORK AND ABOUT HOW IT WOULD IMPACT PEOPLE.
UM, YOU'D LIKE TO THINK IT WOULD BE SIMPLE, BUT IT'S NOT THE, UM, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU, UM, A FEW OF THE THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO THE BASIC IDEA IS TO TAKE THE EXTRA REVENUE FROM THE JUNE PAYMENT AND RECYCLE IT TO LOWER THE DECEMBER PAINT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO, BUT THEN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF SUBSETS TO THAT QUESTION.
AND CLEARLY THERE'S MANY ADVANTAGES TO FIGURING IT OUT.
SO THE DECEMBER BILL INCLUDES WHATEVER RELIEF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RATHER THAN ATTEMPTING TO SEND OUT SOME SEPARATE BILL REBATE CHECK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
UM, SO JUST LIKE THE IMPACT OF THE HIGHER TAX IN JUNE WAS, UM, VERY INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED IN TERMS OF AVERAGES, SOME PEOPLE, UH, HAD A VERY BIG HIT.
OTHER PEOPLE WAS, YOU KNOW, NONE OR, OR VERY SMALL.
AND SO IN WORKING IN A, IN A EQUITABLE WAY TO SEND SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK, YOU KIND OF HAVE THE SAME, SOME SORT OF A MIRROR IMAGE OF THAT,
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THE SAME THING IN REVERSE.SO WE'LL BE HAVING TO TALK IN TERMS OF AVERAGES AND PERCENTAGES, BUT WE'LL ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IF A VEHICLE LIKE THIS, UM, SOME OF THE BIGGER EXAMPLES, SOME OF THE SMALLER EXAMPLES.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS STILL SUBJECT TO, UM, SOME MORE INPUT FROM, FROM SOME SMART PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS.
WE ARE THINKING THAT WE OUGHT TO FOCUS THE BENEFIT ON THE APPROXIMATELY 80% OF THE VEHICLES, UH, THAT WERE OWNED AND TAXES WERE PAID ON IN DECEMBER, UH, BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY THAT PAID IT IN JUNE, BECAUSE AFTER ALL THE BASIC ISSUE WAS A SURPRISE INCREASE.
SO YOU HAD TO HAVE THE VEHICLE AND PAY THE TAX IN DECEMBER FOR JUNE TO BE A SURPRISE.
SO WE, WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE RIGHT TO CAPTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED TO THE COMMUNITY OR BOUGHT A NEW CAR SINCE THEN.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE NARROW THE FOCUS IN THAT WAY, THE BENEFIT COULD BE SOMEWHAT HIGHER.
UH, ANOTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ONE OF THE REASONS, UM, PEOPLE EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE WAS THE STATE P P R P P T R A MONEY DIDN'T GO AS FAR AS IT DID LAST YEAR AS VALUES GO UP AND NUMBER OF VEHICLES INCREASED.
UM, SO THAT PERCENTAGE ON YOUR FIRST 20,000 WENT DOWN, UH, EIGHT OR 9%.
SO WERE YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE SMART TO USE THAT MECHANISM IN REVERSE, UH, FOR A PARTIAL, UH, CALCULATION THEN COMBINED WITH LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL VALUE OF PARTICULAR KINDS OF VEHICLES THAT SORT OF PUTTING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER? UM, WHETHER OR NOT BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY IS INCLUDED? THAT'S MY FIRST INSTINCT WAS, UM, IT SHOULD NOT BE, UM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOOKED AT IT BELIEVE THAT THE COMPLEXITIES AND THE ISSUES OF LEAVING THEM OUT, UH, ADDS TO THAT.
SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO AUGUST, I'LL HAVE A FIRM RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
AND THEN OTHER LITTLE THINGS LIKE, UM, WELL, WHAT IF YOUR VEHICLE WAS PRORATED? YOU BOUGHT IT BETWEEN BILLING CYCLES AND HOW DOES THE EQUATION, YOU KNOW, CAPTURE THAT.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO SORT OUT.
SO MY HOPE IS TO, UH, COME UP WITH WHAT AT LEAST I THINK IS FAIR AND REASONABLE.
AND OF COURSE THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IS WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT PLUG INTO THAT.
AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE OUR BEST ESTIMATE BY THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST BECAUSE IT WON'T BE ABSOLUTELY FINAL, BUT IT'LL BE, UH, PRETTY CLOSE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO PICK A NUMBER AND PLUG IT IN.
SO HOPE TO BRING ALL THAT TO YOU.
AND THEN THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO IT THIS WAY.
THESE WOULD BE THE BENEFITS OF THIS APPROACH AND THE DOWNSIDE.
AND I'LL BE KIND OF RUSHING US ALONG BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDINANCE, UH, THEREAFTER, UH, IN ORDER TO PUT ALL THAT IN PLACE SO THAT THE BILLS CAN BE ADJUSTED.
THANK YOU, MR. SCHIRMER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? YEAH, NO, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND ONE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I FLOATED AN IDEA THAT AFTER A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FROM, FROM TAX-PAYING CITIZENS HAD TO DO WITH A DOG PARK, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS, UH, UH, BULLYING DID GIVE US, I THINK THE LAST TIME THIS ISSUE CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AND HE PROMULGATED THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
NOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM HIM, FROM ANYBODY SINCE THAT TIME, UH, WHICH MAKES ME THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT CREATING A DOG PARK, A PLACE THAT YOU CAN BRING YOUR DOG.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY FENCED IN, IT ALLOWS THE DOG TO RUN WILD.
I SAY WILD FREE DO THE EXERCISE AND THAT HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET, UH, IN THE HOME IN THE LOCAL AREAS WHERE WE LIVE.
AND, UH, AGAIN, I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE UPPER COUNTY? THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS JUST OVER 200 ACRES OF MARVELOUS, NEW QUARTER PARK.
AND OF COURSE, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE UP HERE AND PROBABLY PEOPLE EVEN BEYOND THE GHOULISH UP HERE, I'VE TAKEN THEIR, THEIR DOG OUT THERE.
IT'S GOT TO BE LEASHED THE FORCE.
AND IF THE DOG RELIEVES HIMSELF OF WORK, THE EXPECTATION IS THE DPM OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS PICKED UP BY THE OWNER.
UH, THAT'S ABOUT THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE IS AS A DOG PARK IN YOUR COUNTY, THAT I'M AWARE OF
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THE WHOLE, UH, IF THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY REAL INTEREST WITH RESPECT TO CREATING, UH, A, A BONAFIDE DOG BOARD MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY, UH, WHETHER IT'S IN THE UPPER COUNTY, LOWER COUNTY, MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY, WHAT HAVE YOU I'D LIKE TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHUT THE CHAPTER ON THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ISSUE? UH, YEAH, UH, ONE BOARD AND I WANT TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON MYSELF.NOW THIS COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BRUTE BEST.
I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT UP FRONT, EVERYONE EXPECT A FRUIT BASKET, BUT LET ME BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON MY HEALTH.
UH, FINALLY, AFTER HAVING A SCHEDULE OPERATION ON MY LEFT KNEE, AS A RESULT OF KNOLL WOMB, BACK IN 1966, UH, MY LEFT KNEE HAD TO BE REPLACED.
THE, FOR MAY EXPERIENCE WAS CANCELED FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE OPERATION TOOK PLACE ON THE SEVENTH THIS MONTH, RIGHT? AND IT WAS AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL OPERATION.
I HAD THE ENTIRE LEFT KNEE, TOTALLY REPLACED WITH A, UH, AN ORDER OFFICIAL NEEDS TO TAKE HIS PLACE.
UH, THEY DON'T KEEP YOU IN THE HOSPITAL VERY LONG.
AND SO THE NEXT MORNING, UH, I WAS BASICALLY EXITING, GETTING READY TO EXIT THE HOSPITAL, UH, AND, UH, PACKING.
I DECIDED TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND I HAD TWO NURSES IN MY ROOM WITH ME.
I THINK PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY WAS MAKING SURE I DIDN'T FALL BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS LEFT KNEE HAD NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER.
AND AS I WENT INTO THE BATHROOM, I ALMOST FELL AND RANCHED THE SAME KNEE THAT I HAD OPERATED ON IT HEADED MY PLACE.
SO ANYWAY, LONG STORY, SHE WENT THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.
I'M BACK TO SEE THE SURGEON YESTERDAY.
UH, LAUREL AND I WERE DOWN AT PORT SMITH, UH, CENTER MEDICAL CENTER DOWN THERE.
UH, THEY DID A, UH, A ULTRA, UM, I THINK THEY CALL IT A BOLT SOUND.
BASICALLY IT PROVIDED THE SURGEON WITH PICTURES OF MY MUSCLE DAMAGE.
AND AS IT TURNED OUT, THERE WAS A COMPLETE TEAR OF WHAT'S CALLED THE FLAWED TENDER TENDON, UH, WHICH REALLY IS THE MAJOR, UH, UH, MUSCLE THAT RUNS FROM THE TOP OF THE, THE KNEE BACK SOMEWHERE TO THE THIGH ALLOWS YOU TO PICK UP THE DELAY.
I CAN WRITE, I CAN GO FORWARD.
I CAN'T PICK UP THE LEFT LEG UP.
AND SO THURSDAY WE'LL GET THE READING IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT DEGREE HE'S GOT TO GO BACK IN THERE AND FIX IT.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM, UM, WITH RESPECT TO MY HEALTH, WHICH I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT MY YOUNG AGE THINGS BEGIN TO HAPPEN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YES.
SHOULD WE BUY HIM A CRUTCH OR BASKET? I HAVE A WALKER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TOP? NO REAL, REAL QUICK.
UH, WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CAR TAX AND, UH, APPRECIATE THE STAFF BEING SO, UH, FORTHRIGHT AND GETTING ON THIS AND FOR A SOLUTION, UH, I LOAD THE CAR TAX.
THERE ARE 24 STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA THAT DO NOT HAVE CAR TAGS.
UH, IN 1996, OUR GOVERNOR, UH, JIM GILMORE RAN ON THE PLEDGE TO DO AWAY WITH THE CAR TAX RIGHT NOW, RICHMOND SITS ON A VERY LARGE BUDGET SURPLUS, AND I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO GET ON BOARD WITH GETTING RID OF THE CAR TAX STATEWIDE.
UH, WITH THIS EXTRA MONEY, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A STATE, THE STATE ACTION TO FILL THE VOID THAT NOT HAVING A CAR TAX LEAVES AND OUR BUDGET.
AND I'M CALLING ON OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO DO SOMETHING, TO ALLEVIATE THIS AND FULFILL THE PROMISE OF GOVERNOR GILMORE, THAT THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CAN DO IT IN 24 STATES CAN DO IT.
AND CARS ARE NOT A LUXURY ITEM.
AND THEY'RE A QUITE PRICEY ITEM.
THESE DAYS, IF ANYBODY'S BOUGHT A NEW CAR AND YOU PAY TAX, WHEN YOU BUY IT, YOU PAY TAX.
WHEN YOU GO AND REGISTER IT, AND THEN YOU PAY TAX ON IT EVERY YEAR.
IT'S SUCCESS TAX AND ME PERSONALLY, I'M TIRED AND FED UP WITH IT.
SO THAT'S MY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL THE STAFF THAT WORKED ON JUNETEENTH.
IT WAS VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER.
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THE NUMBERS THAT WE WOULD HAVE HOPED TO HAVE HAD, BUT PERHAPS NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE EVEN MORE PEOPLE THERE.I THINK THE COMMENT WAS FROM 90 TO 900 TO 9,000, THAT ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS SAID, WELL, I HOPE WE DON'T GET 9,000, BUT NONETHELESS, IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.
AND THOSE WHO ATTENDED, I THINK, GOT A LOT OUT OF IT.
SO THANK YOU STAFF FOR WHAT YOU DID AND TALKING ABOUT STAFF.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 4TH OF JULY NOW, AND NOBODY MENTIONED THE FIREWORKS, BUT THE FIREWORKS TAKE IT OFF.
A LOT OF COORDINATION, TIME, EFFORT, AND SAFETY ISSUES, AND STAFF ALWAYS PULLS IT OFF.
SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO THANK ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT.
AND I HOPE YOU ALL TURN OUT FOR THE 4TH OF JULY.
I SAYS THERE'S NO MORE BUSINESS.
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OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE TUESDAY, JULY 19TH IN THE BOARDROOM OF YOUR CALL.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.