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[Call to Order]

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THE JUNE 7TH, UH, RURAL COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AS THIS IS THE FIRST, EXCUSE ME.

I'VE GOT A FROG IN MY THROAT AS THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH.

IT IS A WORK SESSION MEETING, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MEETING HIM IN THE BOARD ROOM, I'LL CALL THEM.

YOU NEED TO ORDER NOW AND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MR. CEREBRO IS NOT WITH US.

IF YOU NOTICE THAT HE'S MISSING BECAUSE HE'S HAD KNEE SURGERY, IT HAD BEEN CANCELED AND NOW IT WAS RESCHEDULED.

AND I HOPE HE'LL BE BACK HERE VERY SHORTLY.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL CALL MR. ZAREMBA, MRS. NOLE HERE.

MR. GREEN, MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, FIRST PRESENTATION,

[A. Employee Service Recognitions. Receive presentation from Mark Bellamy, Deputy County Administrator ]

THIS THIS EVENING WILL BE THE EMPLOYEE SERVICE RECOGNITIONS FROM MARK BELLAMY MARK.

SO MRS. NOLE, WELCOME BACK, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE HAVE THE SERVICE RECOGNITION.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY FOR ABOUT LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF RECOGNIZES AND RECOGNIZING EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CELEBRATING ANNIVERSARIES FOR THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE IN INCREMENTS OF FIVE YEARS.

UH, TONIGHT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORT LIST, BUT THEY ARE ALL SIGNIFICANT.

NONETHELESS, THESE FIRST EIGHT THAT WE'LL DISCUSS ARE, UM, ALL 20 YEARS.

FIRST ONE BEING KEVIN RICHIE AND, UH, MR. SHEPHERD, JILL, APPRECIATE THIS.

I THINK KEVIN DESERVES AN EXTRA AWARD FOR, AND DURING MY GOLF ALL THESE YEARS.

SO HE'S PROBABLY DESERVING OF A LITTLE MORE SO KEVIN'S INVOLVED AND, AND SOME OF THE RIVERWALK EVENTS, THINGS LIKE, UH, BLUES BREWS AND BARBECUES AND PIRATES WEEKENDS.

SO WE HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR THERE WITH KEVIN.

AND OBVIOUSLY HE'S 20 YEARS.

WE HIRED HIM BACK IN 2002 AS A RECREATION SUPERVISOR AND TODAY HE'S EVENT PLANNER.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, JAMES HAZELWOOD.

HE'S A DEPUTY IN A SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND JIM HAS, UH, BEEN WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 2002.

OBVIOUSLY HE'S A MEMBER OF THE DRONE TEAM AND THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.

AND FOR THOSE OF US THAT WATCH TOO MUCH TV EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM IS ALSO LIKE A SWAT TEAM.

AND HE, HIS CURRENT ASSIGNMENT HE'S SERVING WARRANTS RIGHT NOW WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

KENNY THOMPSON IS A FIREFIGHTER AND PARAMEDIC WITH OUR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.

UH, BESIDES HIS REGULAR DUTIES, KENNY ALSO TAKES CARE OF THE SCBA STUFF FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THEIR BREATHING APPARATUS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GO INTO A BURNING BUILDING AND COME OUT HEALTHY.

THE NEXT, UH, 20 YEAR EMPLOYEE IS MICHAEL STENSON, HE'S LIEUTENANT, AND MIKE IS RECENTLY ASSIGNED TO FIRE STATION TWO, AND HE'S ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH CARE ROLE, WHICH MEANS HE GOES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR FOLKS WHO SEE, UH, PARAMEDIC SERVICES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND TRIES TO DO A LITTLE INTERVENTION THERE.

JOSEPH SANDAFORD GOES BY ERIC, AS I RECALL.

AND HE IS ALSO AN EMS PROVIDER AND WORKS AS AN ACTING OFFICER WHEN NEEDED.

AND I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR LAST 20 YEAR.

NO, WE GOT ONE MORE.

THIS IS KYLE DONNIE, AND KYLE'S RECENTLY BECOME A BATTALION CHIEF.

AND KYLE SERVES AS THE MANAGER OF COMMUNITY SAY OF THE COMMUNITY SAFETY DIVISION NOW, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PLAN REVIEWS, ANIMAL CONTROLS, AND, UM, FIRE INVESTIGATIONS.

JUST TO NAME A COUPLE AMY PARKER, YOU ARE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

WE SEE AMY UP HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH, UH, SUP'S.

IN ADDITION TO BEING HER REGULAR DUTIES.

AMY ALSO WORKS WITH THE BICYCLE, UH, GROUPS AND, UH, THE HISTORICAL GROUPS HERE ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF, ELIZABETH WEBSTER WORKS WITH TERRY AND THE 9 1 1 DIVISION.

SHE, UH, PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT US DOING THIS BECAUSE TERRY TELLS ME THAT SHE DOES NOT LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED.

SHE LIKES TO DO HER WORK, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND.

AND SHE'S VERY PROUD OF WHAT SHE DOES, BUT SHE WOULD RATHER NOT BE RECOGNIZED,

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BUT SHE, IN HER SPARE TIME, SHE IS A GREAT LOVER OF ANIMALS.

SHE HAS SEVERAL PETS THAT SHE TAKES CARE OF AND SHE CAME TO US FROM SAVANNAH GEORGIA A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AGO.

THE NEXT GROUP OF EMPLOYEES ARE 25 YEAR EMPLOYEES.

THE FIRST ONE YOU WILL PROBABLY RECOGNIZE AS WELL.

JOE SIZZLER IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS NOW, AND MOST NOTABLY JOE IS KNOWN FOR WORKING ON THE COUNTY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, JUST GENERALLY THE POINT CONTACT POINT OF CONTACT FOR THOSE.

AND IT'S FAIRLY COMMON FOR JOE TO BE HERE AND BRIEF YOU ALL ON THE STATUS OF THOSE PROJECTS.

DOUG IS A TWENTY-FIVE YEAR EMPLOYEE AS WELL.

DOUG WORKS DOWN AT FLEET SERVICES.

HE STARTED AS A FLEET TECHNICIAN BACK IN 1997.

AND I, THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH, UH, DOUG AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT DOUG IS REALLY A MAGICIAN.

HE CAN MAKE ABOUT ANYTHING AND REPAIR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HE HAS REALLY HELPED OUT A FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH SPECIALTY PIECES, FOR THEIR TRUCKS AND THE TROLLEYS.

ALSO SOME OF OUR FIRST TROLLEYS HAD PROPRIETARY, UH, WHEELCHAIR LIFTS, AND THAT COMPANY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET PARTS FOR THE WHEELCHAIR LIFTS.

DOUG WOULD FABRICATE THOSE.

SO HE IS A GREAT TALENT.

WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE IT DOWN THERE AS THE SUPERINTENDENT.

NOW, SHANNON WORLEY WORKS IN THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I TALKED TO, UH, KRISTEN READ ABOUT HER THIS MORNING AND KRISTIN DESCRIBED HER AS THE ROCK OF THE OFFICE AND SHE'S THEIR MOST SENIOR PERSON DOWN THERE.

AND SHE'S THE MOTHER OF TWINS.

SO SHE HAS A LOT TO DO TO HELP KRISTEN AND TAKE CARE OF A FAMILY AS WELL.

AND THAT, UH, CONCLUDES THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE FOR RECOGNITION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING IT, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS AND THE EMPLOYEES FOR ALL THE YEARS AND ALL THE SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN TO US IN THE COUNTY.

ONE THING THAT'S ALWAYS IMPRESSED ME IS THE LONGEVITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE COUNTY.

AND I THINK THAT HAS HELPED TO MAKE THIS TRULY A FAMILY.

SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING, OR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT HERE TO GET OUR ACCOLADES, I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES WITH ALL THOSE YEARS.

I HOPE YOU HEARD IT.

UH, THE NEXT PRESENTATION

[B. American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA). Receive presentation from Greg Gillette, Budget Analyst III.]

IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, AND I'M GOING TO ASK OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE, UH, GOOD EVENING.

UH, THIS IS THE FIFTH PRESENTATION THAT WE PROVIDED THE BOARD ON SOME OF THE VARIOUS FORMS OF FEDERAL ASSISTANCE RELATED TO COVID RELIEF.

UM, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS ONE TONIGHT IS FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE APPROPRIATION OF THE SECOND AND FINAL TRAUNCH OF ARPA FUNDS.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, UM, APPROPRIATE TO UPDATE YOU ALL, UH, BOTH A QUICK LITTLE REMINDER OF THE HISTORY OF THE CARES ACT AND HOW THAT ALL WORKED.

AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE ARPA MONEY THUS FAR, WHAT YOUR DIRECTION IS KIND OF WHAT REMAINS OUTSTANDING AND, UH, HAD REALLY WANTED, UH, GREG ROULETTE, UH, OUR SENIOR BUDGET ANALYST TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.

HE'S BEEN THE FACE OF ALL THESE FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND OUR POINT GUY AND MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW ALL THE RULES.

UNFORTUNATELY, UM, HE CAME DOWN WITH AN ILLNESS AND WE DECIDED THAT HE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

AND, UM, OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TERESA IS OUT OF TOWN.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK I CAN COVER THE BIG PICTURE.

WELL, BUT, UH, IF, IF I CAN'T COVER A DETAIL, I DO HAVE, UH, CAROLYN CAN THRILL OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FINANCE IN THE ROOM WHO HAS THE ANSWER TO ALL QUESTIONS.

SO AS BOARD AND CITIZENS ARE PROBABLY AWARE, THERE'VE BEEN A SERIES OF PIECES OF FEDERAL LEGISLATION, UM, THE TWO LARGEST ONES BEING, UH, THE CARES ACT, UH, THAT WE FIRST, UH, STARTED TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN MARCH OF 2020 AND THE SECOND LARGE ONE, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, WHICH IS A PART OF THAT IS WHAT TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT.

AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER, UH, ACTIONS THAT WERE SORT OF TANGENTIAL TO THOSE, UH, IN BETWEEN.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE REMINDER PART.

THIS PART IS DONE.

UH, ALL THE REPORTS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN, IT'S BEEN

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AUDITED.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF TO PEOPLE OFTEN SAY, WELL, WHAT KIND OF FEDERAL AID DID WE GET AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH IT? SO, UH, THIS IS THE HISTORICAL PART, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO THE CURRENT PART.

UM, SO MARCH OF 2020, UM, THERE WERE A SERIES OF RULES.

THE RULES ARE OFTEN KIND OF COUNTERINTUITIVE.

WHAT REALLY, UH, YOU NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WAS WE FOUND OUT IN MARCH, WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS FEDERAL MONEY.

AND THE INITIAL RULE WAS NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD TO SPEND IT BY DECEMBER NINE MONTHS.

UM, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF CARE, ZACK FUNDS THAT WE ENDED UP GETTING.

AND THESE WERE DOLLARS THAT INITIALLY CAME TO THE STATE AND THEN WERE ALLOCATED TO LOCALITIES WAS 11.9 MILLION, UM, QUITE SIGNIFICANT.

AND WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL KINDS OF PROJECTS AND AGAIN, UH, FOLLOWING SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC RULES IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THESE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF HOW THAT MONEY WAS SPENT.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE INTERESTING RULES WITH THAT PROGRAM, UH, BACK IN THE SPRING OF 2020 WAS THAT WE COULD USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES.

KNOW THE IDEA AT THE TIME WAS THAT, UH, REVENUES WERE EXPECTED TO CRASH AND WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE LAYING OFF, UH, FIREFIGHTERS AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT BY FAR, THAT WAS THE SINGLE BIGGEST LINE ITEM IN THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND, UH, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO PEEL THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO SAY, WELL, WHAT DID THAT REALLY MEAN FOR US? SO WHAT MEANT WAS INSTEAD OF USING THE MONEY THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO USE FOR THESE SALARIES, UH, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION IN THAT SPRING, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE FEDERAL DOLLARS TO PAY FOR.

SO THAT MEANT THAT, UH, THE COUNTY DOLLARS DROPPED TO THE BOTTOM LINE AND ALLOWED US TO HAVE A LARGER SURPLUS OR A SURPLUS WHEN OTHERWISE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE RECALL IN THAT BUDGET YEAR.

WE FROZE EVERYTHING, NO SALARY INCREASES, CIP FREEZE, ALL OF THAT.

AND SO WHILE THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLICATED, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT REAL SIMPLY WE'RE BUILDING A $4 MILLION FIRE STATION, NUMBER SEVEN WITH CASH IN THE MONEY THAT WE'RE USING TO DO THAT DROP TO OUR BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE WE SPENT THIS FEDERAL MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES.

UH, WE ALSO, UH, YOU'LL RECALL THE SCHOOLS WE'RE IN.

I THINK WE CALLED IT A MOONSHOT AT THE TIME, UH, ATTEMPT TO SET UP A DISTANCE LEARNING PROGRAM FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND WE ALLOCATED $2 MILLION OF OUR CARE ZACK MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT SOME FUNDS.

THEY GOT TO DO THAT.

WE RENOVATED THE IE 9 1 1 CENTER TO SPREAD EVERYBODY OUT, KIND OF KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE, BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROJECT WE HAD INTENDED TO DO ANYWAY, BUT IT ALLOWED US TO DO THESE RULES, FOLLOW THESE FEDERAL RULES.

UM, WE, UH, ACQUIRED AND DEPLOYED TECHNOLOGY FOR TELEWORKING, UH, THAT WERE AUTHORIZED THINGS WE DID.

WE BOUGHT SOME TURNOUT GEAR FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND AS YOU GO DOWN THE LIST, THE DOLLARS GET SMALLER, UM, RECALL WE WAIVE CREDIT CARD FEES FOR CITIZENS THAT YEAR, UM, AS A WAY TO LIGHTEN THEIR BURDEN, UH, WITH TAXES, UH, THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HAZARD PAY THAT WAS ALLOWED FOR FIREFIGHTERS, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY EXTRA PAY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR.

BECAUSE REMEMBER IN 2020, WE WERE ASKING OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO GO INTO HOMES WITH MASKS AND GOWNS.

THERE WERE NO VACCINATIONS.

IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A SCARY TIME.

UM, THERE WERE SOME BUSINESS ASSISTANCE GRANTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY THROUGH THE EDA, UM, A BADGING SYSTEM, WHICH WE HAD LONG, WANTED TO IMPLEMENT, UH, WAS AUTHORIZED AN AUTHORIZED USE OF THOSE FUNDS.

AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THAT.

UM, WE, UH, PUT IN SOME DARK FIBER FOR THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, WHICH IS GOING TO SERVE AS WELL.

UH, WHEN THE RENOVATION IS DONE, UM, WE ASSISTED SOME NONPROFITS ON THE FUNDAMENTAL, ALONG WITH OUR NEIGHBORS WHO WERE PROVIDING CHILDCARE AT A TIME WHEN THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CHILDCARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, WE UPGRADED THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO DO.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THESE, THESE ARE ALL DONE REPORTED AND AUDITED.

THAT WAS THE TOTAL WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

UM, WHAT WE DID WAS

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TRIED TO COMBINE SOMETHING THAT FOLLOW THE RULES THAT WAS ON OUR LONG-TERM TO-DO LIST ANYWAY, UH, AND WE REALLY FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT.

NOW, WHAT WAS CRAZY ABOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS? I MEAN, I HAVE NEVER IN MY CAREER, UH, AND PROBABLY YOU ALL IN YOUR SERVICE, I'VE NEVER SEEN WHERE YOU GET SOME MONEY LIKE THAT WITH ALL OF THESE RULES.

AND YOU SAY, IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT IN NINE MONTHS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

AND THEN RIGHT, AS WE WERE FINISHING EVERYTHING IN DECEMBER OF 2020, UM, TH THIS IS SOME, THERE WERE SOME OTHER SUPPLEMENTAL CARES ACT FUNDS THAT DIDN'T COME THROUGH THE COUNTY, UH, WHICH WE BENEFITED FROM, UM, AND THIS HIGHLIGHTS THOSE, BUT TO GET TO MY PUNCHLINE ON THE CARES ACT, UM, THIS OTHER SUPPLEMENTAL BILL CALLED THE CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE RELEASE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, WHICH HAD JUST SOME REALLY SMALL SUMS WE PICKED UP ON.

BUT THE OTHER THING THEY DID IN THAT LAW IN DECEMBER TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE OLD LAW SAID THAT WE HAD TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY, THEY PASSED A LAW AND SAID, YOU HAVE ANOTHER YEAR, UH, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR CASE, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PULLED IT ALL TOGETHER AND, AND PULL THE TRIGGER ON ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO THAT WAS THE CARES ACT WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, CYRISSA ACT.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE LIST OF HOW ALL THAT MONEY WAS DEPLOYED.

SO ARPA WAS THE NEWER ONE, UH, THAT CAME ABOUT IN THE, UM, UH, FEBRUARY OR MARCH TIMEFRAME OF 21.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT TIMEFRAME, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAT WAS IN THE MIDST OF COVID VACCINE RUSH AND, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO SORT OF HOPING TO TRY TO GET US ALL BACK TO NORMAL, AGAIN, ADMINISTERED BY THE TREASURY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SET OF RULES.

UM, AND YOU'D HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO IN GOOD FAITH CAME UP WITH THE FIRST PROGRAM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, TALKING TO EVERYBODY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME LESSONS WERE LEARNED AND SOME THINGS WERE DONE DIFFERENT WITH THE SECOND BATCH OF FUNDS, WHICH MADE IT A LITTLE BIT LESS CRAZY IN PART, UM, THE RULES OF HOW LONG YOU HAD TO SPEND THE MONEY.

AND, UH, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THIS CASE, RATHER THAN THE MONEY COMING THROUGH THE STATE, UH, IT'S COMING TO US IN TWO TRANCHES.

THE FIRST ONE WE RECEIVED AN APPROPRIATED THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AND WE HAD BEEN NOTIFIED AND WE'RE EXPECTING THE SECOND TRAUNCH ANY DAY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS WHICH IS REQUIRED BY OUR RULES WOULD BE TO, UH, APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY SO WE CAN DEPLOY IT IN THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED.

AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER HERE IN A MINUTE.

NOW I DO HAVE ONE LITTLE WHINY THING I HAVE TO SAY HERE.

UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS MONEY HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF HOW WE HAVE DEPLOYED IT ALREADY AND WHAT WE CONTINUE TO PLAN TO DO WITH IT.

I JUST GOT TO SAY, BECAUSE OF SOME QUIRK IN THE LAW, VIRGINIA, CITY'S GOT MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH PER CAPITA AS VIRGINIA COUNTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HATE TO BE COMPLAINING ABOUT $13 MILLION, BUT THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG AND THE CITY OF PICASA EACH RECEIVED MORE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE UNDER THE CARES ACT THAN THE COUNTY OF YORK.

NOW WE WON'T EVEN GO TO HOW MUCH HAMPTON GUIDE OR NEWPORT NEWS GUIDE OR VIRGINIA BEACH GUIDE.

SO WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT $5,000 BONUSES HERE AND BIG PROJECTS THERE, KEEP IN MIND THAT A LOT OF THE CITIES GOT A TREMENDOUSLY LARGER SUM THAN THE COUNTY DID, ALTHOUGH IT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND WE'RE CERTAINLY PUTTING IT TO GOOD USE.

DON'T WORRY.

YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD.

I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, RIGHT? SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THIS, BUT WE SENT A SERIES OF REPORTS AND GREG ROULETTE STARTED MAKING PRESENTATIONS TO YOU.

AND THE BASIC PHILOSOPHY WE LANDED ON WAS LET'S ATTEMPT TO SPEND APPROXIMATELY 80% OF THESE SONGS FOR ONE-TIME CAPITAL THINGS, THINGS THAT EITHER WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAY, OR THINGS THAT EVERYBODY KNEW NEEDED TO BE DONE, BUT NEVER QUITE MADE THE CUT BECAUSE OF OTHER PRIORITIES.

UM, WE, WE SORT OF SET ASIDE 10% FOR ONGOING COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND 10% FOR CONTINGENCIES OR OTHER ONE-TIME COUNTY NEEDS.

AND THERE'S SOME DEFINITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT BASICALLY THAT ALL THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE MADE AND ALL THE DIRECTION YOU'VE GIVEN HAVE TRACKED WITH THAT BASIC APPROACH.

SO HERE'S WHAT, UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ALL OF WHICH, UH, YOU HAVE DIRECTED IN THESE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, IN SOME CASES APPROVED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY, UH, AWARDED THE CONTRACTS OR ALLOCATED THE FUNDS.

SO WE HAVE SET ASIDE $2 MILLION OF THAT CASH.

UM,

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BASICALLY AS A CONTINGENCY, THE, UH, NEW SHERIFF'S LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING IS OUT THE BID.

UH, WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION PRICES ARE GOING UP, WHETHER THAT WILL BE ENOUGH REMAINS TO BE SEEN, BUT THAT'S A CERTAINLY A, A WISE USE OF SOME OF THAT FEDERAL MONEY AND WOULD FALL INTO THAT 80% CATEGORY.

WE SET A SIMILAR SIDE AMOUNT, UH, ASIDE SIMILAR AMOUNT FOR THE UPCOMING, UH, RIVERWALK LANDING WATER STREET, GRILL RENOVATION PROJECT.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A COUNTY AND BUILDING LEASE TO THE EDA, UH, WE'LL PARTNER WITH THE TENANT, BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO LARGELY DO THIS PROJECT WITHOUT USING, YOU KNOW, OTHER LOCAL FUNDS, SOME LOCAL FUNDS, BUT THIS TAKES CARE OF SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT, AGAIN, SAME, UH, SOMETHING WE KNOW WE NEEDED TO DO, UH, BUT WE DIDN'T OTHERWISE, UH, HAVE IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET, DARK FIBER INSTALLATION.

THAT WAS ONE THAT WE KIND OF RUSHED FORWARD.

THIS IS A DARK FIBER THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE NORTH COUNTY.

THE NORTH COUNTY'S INTERNET SERVICE AND OPTIONS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS SOUTH OF YORKTOWN.

UH, AND INITIALLY THIS, UH, RING WILL TIE A BUNCH OF COUNTY BUILDINGS TOGETHER, BUT IT CREATES THE POTENTIAL, UM, FOR PRIVATE SERVICE TO CONNECT OFF OF THAT RING.

UM, WE ALSO APPROVED AS A PLANNING CONCEPT, IT'S OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE BUDGET, SO YOU CAN STILL REVISIT THIS, UM, SOME MONEY FOR A PARK UPGRADES.

AND AT YOUR RETREAT, YOU SAW MR. FULLER GAVE A PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE THAT MIGHT BE, UH, WHAT MIGHT BE DONE.

AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR BUDGET AND CONTINGENCIES EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, IN THE, AS WE REDO THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

UH, WE DID, UH, USE THE 10% THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR THE COUNTY AS WE CALL IT A RETENTION INCENTIVE.

IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A BONUS, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN.

UH, WE GOT SOME MONEY FOR, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES THROUGH THE STATE.

AND WE WERE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST GIVE COMP BOARD AUTHORIZED PEOPLE, UH, PAYMENT AND NOT EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO WE OPTED TO DO THAT.

UM, WE BOUGHT AN EXTRA AMBULANCE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A YEAR TO ARRIVE IN ANTICIPATION OF THE OPENING OF FIRE STATION SEVEN.

AND WE SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS, UH, FOR THE, UH, CONSOLIDATION OF OUR IT, UH, OPERATION, UH, AT THE OPERATION CENTER.

SO REMEMBER THAT WE ALSO, UH, ESTABLISHED A COMMITTEE, UH, WITH SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES TO, UH, AID.

UM, THE CITIZENS ARE CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED BY COVID.

UM, WE, UH, PROVIDED THE, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF SOME, SO THEY COULD PROVIDE SOME ONE-TIME SMALL CAPITAL GRANTS IN ADDITION TO THE OPERATING CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY TYPICALLY WOULD PROVIDE THROUGH OUR BUDGET.

UM, AND, UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME UN-DESIGNATED CONTINGENCIES, UH, THAT THE BOARD IN THE FUTURE.

UM, WE'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ONE FINAL POINT ON THIS.

UH, I MENTIONED THAT IN ARPA, THE RULES WERE LESS CONVOLUTED.

THERE WAS THIS ARBITRARY, ALTHOUGH ADVANTAGEOUS RULE THAT SAID, UM, IF YOU'RE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY, UM, YOU CAN BUY FORMULA SAY THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, UH, IS REVENUE REPLACEMENT.

AND IN THE ARBITRARY FORMULA THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY CONGRESS, ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE GOT QUALIFIED AS REVENUE REPLACEMENT.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS AND WE COULD ESSENTIALLY DEPLOY IT USING ALL THE NORMAL PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES THAT THE BOARD WOULD, WOULD USE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE SOME OF THE CITIES WITH, THEY GOT A LOT MORE MONEY.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL HOOPS TO GO THROUGH, UM, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S DROPS THROUGH HOURS BUDGET AND BECOMES THE COUNTY'S MONEY.

UM, RECALL THAT, UM, IN ONE OF YOUR LAST BRIEFINGS ON THIS, WE RECOMMENDED AND THE BOARD APPROVED, AND WE SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED IN RCIP, UH, PROVIDING THE SCHOOLS WITH SOME CAPITAL MONEY FOR SMALL RECREATION ORIENTED PROJECTS, REALLY SPRINKLED AROUND JUST ABOUT EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY AND MANY OF THEM THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET DONE THIS SUMMER WITH SCHOOL BEING CLOSED, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, THE BRUTON, UH, PROJECT, WHICH IS THE SINGLE LARGEST, ONE OF THE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.

AND THEY'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED IN ABOUT A WEEK.

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AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS WE WENT TO THE SCHOOLS AND SAID, WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE ISSUES FOR YEARS.

WE KNOW THIS NEVER MAKES YOUR CUT ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT WE KNOW YOU HAVE THESE NEEDS.

AND ANOTHER THING THAT YOU ALL LIKED ABOUT IT AND STAFF LIKED ABOUT IT WAS MANY OF THESE WHILE THERE THEY HELPED THE SCHOOL KIDS.

MANY OF THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT ARE GENERALLY USED BY THE COUNTY.

SO I WON'T SPEAK TO ALL OF THESE, BUT THIS IS THE LIST THAT THE SCHOOL'S PROVIDED AND IS REFLECTED IN OUR APPROVED CIP.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THAT 80% ON ONE TIME, CAPITAL A, WHICH WAS OUR PHILOSOPHY WITH THIS MONEY.

AND SO THAT IS THE TOTAL.

AND, UM, WITH THAT, I THINK IT'S THE SETUP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

LET ME SEE WHAT MR. JOE MCGILL THAT WAS GOING TO DO NEXT.

UH, OH, THERE WAS SOME OTHER ARPA FUNDING THAT DIDN'T FLOW TO THE COUNTY.

UM, YOU RECALL YOU RECENTLY APPROPRIATED THAT, UH, TOURISM SUPPORT GRANT, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THERE, YOU SEE THE CARDBOARD REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE SHERIFF, WHICH WAS ALSO REFLECTED IN WHAT OUR MATCH WAS FOR THE RETENTION BONUS FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES.

UM, AND THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL HEADSTART FUNDING AND SOME UTILITIES RELIEF MONEY, UH, THAT IN THE COUNTY'S CASE WAS USED FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR SEWER PROGRAM.

SO AGAIN, TO RESTATE ALL OF THE CARES ACT FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT ACCOUNTED FOR AUDITED AND REPORTED TO THE FEDS, UH, THE FIRST TRAUNCH OF SLUR, WHICH IS ANOTHER ACRONYM THAT I'M DEGENERATING THE CALLING ARPA, UH, IN THEIR DIFFERENT ACRONYMS, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU GO IN THE LAW, SAME THING.

UH, WE HAVE EXPENDED REPORTED AND AUDITED, UH, THE BATCH WE GOT LAST YEAR.

SO THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL TRAUNCH THAT I'M PROPOSING THAT WE APPROPRIATE TONIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, OUTLINED AS WE DISCUSSED.

AND WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR CAROLYN, UH, AND AS APPROPRIATE WE CAN GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN, WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT WITH THE MONEY, WHICH IS SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT.

OUR CITIZENS KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT'S BEING USED AND TO THEIR BENEFIT.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE STAFF, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I KNOW YOU WILL SO HAVE LOOKING AT YOU SURE.

I DID MY MATH, RIGHT? THE, UH, THE FUNDS TO MEET ALL THE FUNDING FOR RIVERWALK THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT 80% OF THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR RENOVATION CLOSE.

SO, I MEAN, TRUTHFULLY PROJECT HASN'T BEEN BID YET.

AND SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE COST IN JANUARY.

THE ARCHITECT'S ESTIMATE FOR THE PROJECT WAS 4 MILLION.

AND AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE SORT OF CAME UP WITH THE FORMULA, UM, THE, UH, THE TENANT, UM, WAS, IS TO PAY 35% OF THE COST.

AND THE EDA WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE 65% OF THE COST.

SO AT 4 MILLION, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE 2 MILLION AND THE ONE POINT SOMETHING MILLION THAT THE TENANT WOULD PAY, THERE WOULD BE A DELTA THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO BE PAID EITHER THROUGH THE EDA CAPITAL FUND OR THE BOARD'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTINGENCY.

THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, THE PERCENTAGES STAY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF THE BID PRICE, SO THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, WANT THE SAME THING AND THE RESULT.

SO IF IT GOES UP, BOTH PARTIES GO UP.

IF IT GOES DOWN, BOTH PARTIES GET US DOWN.

UH, ONCE WE HAVE THE BID IN, I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND TO THIS BODY EXACTLY HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT TH THAT'S THE ROUGH FORMULA TO THE FORECAST.

THANK YOU, CHAD, YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, EVERYONE KNOWS, UH, LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE PARKING GARAGE AT THE STRUCTURAL ISSUE.

WOULD THERE BE, SHOULD WE HOLD BACK SOME OF THIS MONEY IN ANTICIPATION THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE PARKING GARAGE OR MAKE SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATIONS TO IT? SO IT'D BE MY QUESTION FOR YOU BEFORE WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SOME THINGS MAYBE THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT NOT ESSENTIAL.

SO FAIR QUESTION.

UM, IF WE NEEDED TO, DO WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO IT RECALL THAT YOU STILL GOT ABOUT A HALF MILLION COMPLETELY UNALLOCATED? AND WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF FOR FUTURE PARKS PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT A COUPLE YEARS OUT IN THE CIP STILL, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT ANYWAY, CAUSE WE HADN'T EVEN DEFINED, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROJECT OR PROJECTS WE WANTED

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TO DO.

SO IN THE EVENT IT WAS A MAJOR CATASTROPHIC THING AND INSURANCE DIDN'T PAY FOR IT.

THAT COULD BE AN OPTION.

I MEAN, THE COUNTY DOES CARRY PROPERTY INSURANCE WITH A SMALL DEDUCTIBLE.

SO UNDER MOST CIRCUMSTANCES, EVEN IF IT'S A, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE GRAFTON FIRE OCCURRED IN THE END, THE SCHOOLS, IT WAS A $12 MILLION WITH HAIR AND THE SCHOOL'S PAID A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO, UM, I CAN'T ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE THAT IT WOULD BE AN INSURANCE JOB, BUT THAT'S SURE NUMBER ONE LINE OF ATTACK.

AND WHILE WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN, UH, OUR EXPERTS DO NOT THINK IT'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE LIKE, UH, REPLACE A BEAM.

AND SO, UH, I MEAN, I THINK AT MOST WE'RE TALKING TIME AND PERHAPS LOW SIX FIGURES, NOT, UM, SEVEN FIGURE TYPE OF JOB, BUT IF WE HAD TO YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU, TOM.

YOU HAVE QUESTION.

YEAH.

NEIL, APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING DETAILS.

UM, IN THE TOTAL, SINCE THE CORONAVIRUS AND ALL THE ACTS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE'VE RECEIVED OR NOT RECEIVED, BUT GOING TO RECEIVE ALL WELL, THE, THE DIRECT MONEY TO THE COUNTY, UH, THE TOTAL WAS THE 11, UH, WAS, WAS IT 11, NINE, CAROLYN OF CARES AND 13, UM, 2 13, 2 IN ARPA.

YOU ADD THOSE TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S, UH, 20 APPROXIMATELY TWENTY-FIVE DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY.

NOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WERE NOT TO MINIMIZE IT, BUT RELATIVELY SMALL SUMS THAT VECTORED IN LIKE HEADSTART GOT SOME DIRECT GRANTS AND THE UTILITY RELIEF PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T COME FROM THAT POT OF MONEY.

UM, AND THE REALLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE WAS STATE.

THE STATE PUTS SOME CDBG MONEY, UH, UH, INTO BUSINESS ASSISTANCE, WHICH OUR, UH, COMMUNITY SUPPORT OR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAMED UP ON.

AND SO WE DEPLOYED AN ADDITIONAL $1.3 MILLION OF FEDERAL THINK IT WAS CARES, ACT MONEY.

I'M NOT SURE IT MIGHT'VE BEEN ARPA MONEY, UM, FOR, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED, YOUR COUNTY BUSINESSES IN THREE SERIES OF SMALL GRANTS.

SO IF YOU ADDED ALL THAT UP 25 MILLION PLUS THROUGH THE COUNTY, IN THOSE FIT, THAT LIST OF THINGS I SHOWED YOU, AND THEN PROBABLY ANOTHER, UH, 2 MILLION IN DIFFERENT, SMALLER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, PASS THROUGH THE COUNTY WITH TARGETED TYPES OF ASSISTANCE.

SO THE OTHER RESTRICTION ON THESE, ON THE, UM, ON THE USE OF THE FUNDS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S TYPICAL FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST SCRAMBLING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT, BUT THEY PUT THESE RESTRICTIONS ON US.

UM, AND THEY ENDED UP PUSHING DOWN A TRUCK, A TON OF MONEY, A TON OF MONEY ON THE CITIES AND THE, AND THE COUNTIES ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES HAS OVER 3000 COUNTIES OVER THERE ABOUT 3,100 COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS AND I'VE GOT ONE OF THE THINGS OF A DELTA HERE BETWEEN, LET'S SAY, UH, THE CORONAVIRUS NEVER HAPPENED, WHAT ARE WE PICKING UP? WHAT ARE WE FROM 20, $25 MILLION? WHAT'S WHAT WE, WHERE WOULD WE BE WITHOUT THAT 25 MILLION? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE CORONAVIRUS NEVER HAPPENED, THAT'S SORT OF A MAJOR CAVEAT ON WHAT MY ANSWER MIGHT BE.

SO, UM, IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT, THAT MIGHT BE AN AVERAGE YEAR OF TOTAL CAPITAL SPENDING SCHOOLS AND COUNTY COMBINED.

SO ONE SIMPLE WAY TO SAY WOULD THE, A FREE YEAR OF CAPITAL BUDGET SPENDING, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.

OF COURSE IT WAS SPREAD OUT OVER THREE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS.

AND SO IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT, IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FUND GENERAL FUND IS SOMETHING LIKE $155 MILLION.

AND, UH, SO ON THE OPERATING SIDE, IF YOU TOOK A THIRD OF THAT, YOU KNOW, 8 MILLION, THAT WOULD BE A SIX, 7%.

UM, BUT SINCE THIS BODY, I THINK RIGHTLY DECIDED TO USE WHEREVER POSSIBLE, THE MONEY FOR CAPITAL, PROBABLY THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT AS THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.

SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE GOTTEN DRAGGED INTO A LOT OF PROGRAMMATIC USES OF THE MONEY.

AND,

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YOU KNOW, WE RECOMMENDED AGAINST THAT.

I THINK YOU ALL WERE UNANIMOUSLY.

DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE YOU STAND UP A PROGRAM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU STOP IT WHEN THE MONEY GOES AWAY? AND SO THE, THE BEAUTY OF THE ONE-TIME APPROACH IS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN CAPITAL BUDGET TERMS, THERE'S ALWAYS NEED THAT CAN'T BE MET.

AND SO IF YOU USE IT FOR THINGS THAT YOU FIX, THE PROBLEM, AND THE PROBLEM GOES AWAY FOR 10 OR 20 YEARS, THEN YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WHEN THE MONEY DRIES UP, YOU STILL COME OUT AHEAD.

WHEREAS IF YOU START SOME SOFT PROGRAM AND THEN THE, AND THEN THE MONEY DRIES UP, THEN YOU EITHER HAVE TO PULL THE PLUG AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HURT OR YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP IT GOING.

SO I THINK THE SINGLE BEST THING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE TIME, HOW CAN WE ENHANCE ALL OF OUR CAPITAL NEEDS? AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS BEEN A BIG AREA OF NEED, YOU KNOW, REINVESTING IN FACILITIES, UH, COUNTY AND SCHOOLS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEFER OR NOT DEFER, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID, UH, UH, LOANS BORROWING BECAUSE THAT'S THE, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS EVENTUALLY AND GETTING TO THEIR SOME WAY, EITHER OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BORROW THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE RULES OF THE PROGRAMS, VARIED CARES ACT WAS A LITTLE MORE STRINGENT THAN ARPA, BUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE TOOK A ONE-TIME APPROACH WITH MOST OF IT THAT MONEY DROPPED TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE BUILDING FIRE STATION SEVEN WITHOUT BARLIN AND DON, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUILD FIRE STATIONS THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, AND WE'VE GOT A RESERVE FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE BID PRICE HAS COME IN HIGH AND WE'VE GOT A WAY TO COVER THAT WITHOUT BORROWING WATER.

UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST MEANINGFUL WHAT TIME SPENT WITH JEWEL, WHICH WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO.

UH, SPEAKING ABOUT MONEY.

I

[1. State and Local Fiscal Recovery Funds Appropriation. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R22-111 to appropriate funds in the Fiscal Year 2022 Budget for Federal Funding received from the American Rescue Plan Act. ]

THINK WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP NOW.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION, OUR 22 DASH 111 TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 BUDGET FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

MR. MORGAN, ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THIS ONE? PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT BABY YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO SINCE YOU'VE DONE THAT QUITE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR AMOUNT OF FUNDING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? NOT YET, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CARED, WHO WOULD SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BOARD COMMENTS OF ANY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE BACK TO HEAR THAT.

THANK YOU.

I'LL MOVE OUR 22 DASH 1 1 1 WE'LL CALL, PLEASE.

THE MOTION MAY FIND MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT POST RESOLUTION R 22 DASH ONE 11 APPROPRIATING FUNDS AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET FOR FEDERAL FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN HAT.

MR. GREEN, MR. ROAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MRS. NOLE.

YES.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THEN

[2. Application No. PD-57-22, Commonwealth Green, LLLP. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 22-11 to approve an application to amend the conditions of approval applicable to the previously approved Commonwealth Green Mixed-Use Development]

THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE IS APPLICATION NUMBER PD 57 DASH 22 FOR COMMONWEALTH GREEN.

AND WE GOING TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2211 TO AMEND CONDITIONS FOR THE APPROVAL APPLICABLE TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED COMMONWEALTH GREEN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND I SEE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE COMMONWEALTH GREEN PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY, UH, IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE, UH, NEWPORT NEWS CITY LINE.

IT'S A PLANT DEVELOPMENT MIXED USE, UM, AND IT WAS APPROVED IN 2012 THROUGH A REZONING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

OH, THAT'S ABOUT A 46 ACRE PROJECT, UM, OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE ON THE ZONING MAP.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS, UM, GENERAL BUSINESS, THE MIXED-USE VISION FOR THIS AREA.

IT GOES BACK TO THE 2005 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN WE CREATED THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION, AND WE APPLIED IT TO VARIOUS AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT YOU CAN SEE THE CROSSHATCHED AREA ON THIS COMP PLAN MAP, UH, INDICATING THE MIXED USE OVERLAY DESIGNATION AND THE FEELING AT THE TIME WAS THAT THIS WAS A GOOD LOCATION GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO, UH, KILL THEM CREEK, UH, THE BUSINESSES THERE ON VICTORY, THE AIRPORT OVER ON THE WEST AND, UH, TO RETAIL ON THE EAST HILL ON ROUTE 17, THE FEELING WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE, UH, RETAIL BUSINESS

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PARK, UH, WITH, UH, RESIDENTIAL INDIAN TERRIER.

AND, UH, THE COMMERCIAL USES KIND OF ON, ON EITHER RANDOM.

THE VISION WAS PREDICATED ON THE NOTION OF HAVING ACCESSIBILITY TO BOTH COMMONWEALTH DRIVE TO THE EAST AND ROUTE 17 OR RIGHT TO THE WEST AND ROUTE 17 TO THE EAST AS SHOWN ON THE MAP HERE, IT WAS ENVISIONED AS BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF COMMONWEALTH DRIVE, UH, TO, UH, ROUTE 17 AT ITS INTERSECTION WITH, UM, COVENTRY BOULEVARD, WHICH IS OF COURSE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.

YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BETTER ON THIS AERIAL PHOTO.

AGAIN, THAT WAS THE VISION.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE VISION WAS NOT ABLE TO BECOME REALITY, THE, UH, DEVELOPERS OF THIS PROJECT, UH, OR NOT ABLE TO, UH, GET THE, UH, APPROVAL OF ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROUTE 17 TO COME THROUGH PUNCH THAT ROAD THROUGH, UH, THEIR PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY CAME UP WITH, UH, THE NEXT BEST SOLUTION, UH, WHICH IS THE ROAD ALIGNMENT THAT YOU SEE UP HERE, UH, BASICALLY TAKING WHAT IS NOW KEENER WAY, UH, SORT OF A CIRCUITOUS, UH, UH, CURVER, UH, CURVILINEAR ROAD OVER TO, UH, ROUTE 17, UH, NEAR APPLE LANE.

IT'S A, UM, IT'S ONLY A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT.

AND, UH, SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED.

THE, UH, VETO WAS NEVER, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ALIGNMENT.

UH, THEY HAD CONCERNS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPER, THIS WAS NOT THE DEVELOPER'S PREFERENCE EITHER.

VIDOT, UH, VIDELE'S PREFERENCE WAS TO, UH, HAVE THE CONNECTION THERE AT COVENTRY BOULEVARD, COMMONWEALTH DRIVE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALSO THE DEVELOPERS PREFERENCE.

CERTAINLY IT WAS THE STAFF'S PREFERENCE.

UH, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE ALIGNMENT, NOT THEREBY BY APPLE WAY OR APPLE ROAD.

UM, UH, BUT, UH, IN FACT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IN 2012.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMONWEALTH DRIVE THE AREA OUT IN BOLD AND ALIGN IN BLUE IS 324 APARTMENT UNITS.

UH, THE MAIN STATE CONDOMINIUMS, UH, THERE ON, UH, KEENER WAY, WHICH ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THEY'RE APPROVED FOR 94.

I THINK THEY'RE UP TO 62 NOW, CONDOMINIUM DUPLEX KIND OF UNITS.

AND THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS TO THIS, UH, OUTLINED IN GREEN HERE IS THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD THREE, UH, UP TO THREE, THREE UNIT LIVE ABOVE, UH, BUILDINGS WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF KEENER WAY, UH, ABOUT A 1.67 ACRE SITE, UH, THERE'S A SITE PLAN, UH, UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW FOR A, UH, 89 ROOM HOTEL ON THAT SITE.

SO THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD, UH, TOWARD COMPLETION.

UM, A COUPLE OF PICTURES.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO COMMONWEALTH GREEN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APARTMENTS, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN KEENER WAY.

UH, THE, THE, UH, DUPLEX UNITS, THE CONDO IS THEIR MAIN STATE, UH, CONDOS.

YOU CAN SEE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, AND THEN YOU GET TO THE END OF KINA WAY, AND IT JUST STOPS.

UH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, THE FIRST OF THOSE THREE, UH, LIVE ABOVE, UH, BUILDINGS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL, THAT THEY ARE ACTIVELY MARKETING.

UM, SO, UH, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS FIRST APPROVED IN 2012, THERE WAS A CONDITION, UH, THAT, UH, UH, THE ROAD CONNECTION TO ROUTE 17 WOULD BE COMPLETED BY A CERTAIN DATE.

UH, AND ALSO THE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES.

UH, THEY RAN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THE DEQ, GETTING THE WETLANDS PERMITS.

THERE WAS AN EXTENSION GRANTED, UH, THEY RAN INTO SOME MORE PROBLEMS AGAIN WITH THE DEQ AND ALSO SOME OTHER PROBLEMS AS FAR AS THE MARKETABILITY OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, CONDOS, UH, CONDO DESIGN.

AND SO THAT SLOWED THINGS DOWN.

AND SO, UH, THAT ANOTHER EXTENSION WAS GRANTED, UM, UH, MORE RECENTLY.

AND SO CURRENTLY THE DEADLINE FOR, UH, EXTENDING THAT ROAD IS OCTOBER 5TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO, UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT ACTION, THIS IS THE CURRENT APPROVED MASTER PLAN FOR COMMONWEALTH GREEN.

UH, SO THEY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN, UH, LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, I GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS, UH, FROM V DOC.

UH, AGAIN, THEY'VE NEVER BEEN, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED ROAD ALIGNMENT.

THEY REITERATED THOSE CONCERNS.

UM, THEY HAD, UH, UH, AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUSHING FOR THE ROAD CONNECTION THAT COVENTRY BOULEVARD COURSE THAT'S OUT OF THE DEVELOPER'S CONTROL.

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UM, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE T INTERSECTION WITH KEENER WAY.

THEY DIDN'T, THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IT BECOMING A CUT-THROUGH, UH, JU UH, GENERATING CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC, UH, DOWN KEENER WAY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

AND WE HAD SOME, SOME, UH, SOME RESIDENTS FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT COME AND SPEAK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO ALSO HAD THOSE CON THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS.

THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER UTILITIES PLACED UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY PAVEMENT, AND, UH, THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS ON JEANETTE DRIVE.

AND SO ULTIMATELY THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE ROAD CONNECTION TO ROUTE 17 SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AND THAT WE JUST ALLOW KEENER WAY TO END IN A TYPICAL CUL-DE-SAC.

UM, SO, UH, THAT'S THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THAT'S THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE BY THE DEVELOPERS? UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT VR IS NOT GOING TO APPROVE JANETTE DRIVE.

UH, THEY DID PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT.

HOWEVER, IF THE DEVELOPERS WERE TO DO THAT, THEY'D HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN WITH THE WETLANDS PERMITS, BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE THE WETLANDS IMPACT.

A REMINDER THAT PROCESS TOOK THEM ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

UH, AND SO, UH, AND IN THE END, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVIDENT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THE ROAD.

UH, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW, AGAIN, THIS WOULD ALLOW KEENER WAY TO END IN A CUL-DE-SAC AND, UH, YOU CAN DO THIS THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE 22 DASH 11 PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION, THEIR APRIL MEETING AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UH, THE DEVELOPERS APPLICANTS ARE HERE.

MR. DAVIS IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

QUICK QUESTION.

IT LOOKED LIKE THAT ALIGNING THAT ROAD WITH COVENTRY BOULEVARD MADE A LOT OF SENSE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR IT, BUT YOU SAID THAT WAS STOPPED BECAUSE I GUESS THE PINE MEADOW VETERINARIAN IT'S ACTUALLY THE BRAIN FAMILY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF 17, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE LOGICAL EXTENSION FOR THAT ROAD AND WHERE THAT ROAD SHOULD COME OUT.

CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

THE COMP PLAN RECOMMENDS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

RIGHT.

SO I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M HAVING TROUBLE BOOK.

WHAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL ASK HERE? THEY DON'T WANT TO COMPLETE THE CONNECTION TO ROUTE 17.

YEAH.

THEY WANT THE KEENER WAY.

I'LL BRING IT UP.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

SO BASICALLY THEY SAY, WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THIS.

OKAY.

AND THAT WOULD BE A UTILITY EASEMENT, UH, OUT TO ROUTE 17.

UH, THEY HAVE OVERSIZED THE UTILITIES.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE CAPACITY THERE TO SERVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND ON ROUTE 17, ONCE THOSE UTILITIES ARE EXTENDED, UH, BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL, UH, REQUEST HERE IS TO ELIMINATE THIS ROAD CONNECTION TO ROUTE 17 KEENER, OUR WAY WOULD, UH, JUST END IN A NORMAL CUL-DE-SAC LIKE IT IS NOW.

WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO CALL THE SECOND JUST THE ROAD JUST ENDS.

OKAY.

COULD I, COULD I COMMENT JUST, I WAS WENT TO A MEETING WITH TIM AND THE STAFF AND DEVELOPERS TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS.

AND OF COURSE THE DEVELOPERS REMEMBERED WHEN THE BOARD SAID, DON'T COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANY CHANGES.

WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH FROM YOU.

AND WE LISTENED TO THE WHOLE STORY AND IT WAS LIKE, WELL, OKAY, THEY'RE BASICALLY CAUGHT BETWEEN THE COUNTY V DOT AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THE COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, LAND USE DECISION SAID V DOT WON'T APPROVE WHAT WE SAID WAS OKAY.

AND THEY CAN'T MOVE IT TO DO WHAT THE DOC COULD LIVE WITH WITHOUT STARTING A NEW FIVE-YEAR PROCESS.

THERE'LL BE BEYOND THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THE ENTRANCE COMES IN IS, UH, A ROAD WITH A MEDIAN.

AND THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR WHEN YOU HAVE A ROAD WITH A MEDIAN, YOU KNOW, IN AN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN USE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, FOR TWO WAY TRAFFIC AND THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE WOULD LOVE IT.

IF WE DON'T ALLOW CUT-THROUGH, THERE IS SOME UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY BACK IN THERE THAT SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW ALL THAT TIES IN, WHICH IS WHY THE UTILITY EASEMENT IS IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, SO I MEAN, IF WE DON'T AGREE TO THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO WHAT WE SAID THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

RIGHT.

I THANK YOU.

THANKS THAT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO SPEAK TO YOU.

I'M SORRY.

ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK, ALL RIGHT.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, STAFF MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DONALD DAVIS, UM, UH, ATLANTA, SURVEYOR DAVIS AND ASSOCIATES.

WE LOCATED AT 36 30 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY TONIGHT THAT I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 40

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YEARS NOW IN THAT POSITION.

UM, BUT IT HAS, UH, TO GET TO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT.

UH, MR. TIM CROSS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TONIGHT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO MANY OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE PLANS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

IF THE PLANS WERE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED IN 2013 AND 2014.

AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH ONE ENGINEER AT V AND THAT ENGINEER CAME BACK AND HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT, BUT IT WAS NOT A, YOU CAN NOT DO THIS.

IT WAS JUST NOT THE RECOMMENDED LOCATION.

SO WE WENT TO 2016 AND WE SUBMITTED THE PLANS AGAIN, THEN HAD ANOTHER VIDOT ENGINEER WHO WE WERE DEALING WITH.

AND THAT ENGINEER ACTUALLY ONLY HAD A FEW COMMENTS, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS ONE THAT THE COUNTY COULDN'T AGREE TO.

AND THAT'S WHEN THE ROADWAY WAS PUT THROUGH.

AND, UH, THE EXTENSION OF COMMONWEALTH DRIVE WENT ALL THE WAY TO ROUTE 17 IN THE FUTURE THAT ROADWAY WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED OFF AND WOULD HAVE TO ENTER A CUL-DE-SAC.

SO WHAT WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE AT THAT POINT.

SO NOW WE'VE, UM, TWO, UH, 20 18, 20 19, AND WE GET A PERMIT WHICH TOOK OVER FIVE YEARS TO GET THROUGH THE U S ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, BECAUSE IT WAS AT INDIVIDUAL PERMIT AND THE, UH, GROUP COMMONWEALTH GREEN, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, SPENDING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY PAYING FOR MITIGATION FEES, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT FOR OTHER ADJOINING PROPERTIES ALSO.

SO THEN IN 2021, WE SUBMITTED A NEW SET OF PLANS, UH, AND TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE ITEMS. AND WHEN WE DID, WE GOT COMMENTS BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, AND THOSE COMMENTS WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.

UM, NOW THEY WANTED TO HAVE SIDEWALKS OUT TO ROUTE 17, WHICH WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

UH, THEY WANTED US TO PUT THE UTILITIES OUTSIDE OF THE PAVEMENT AREA, WHICH IS NOT USUAL, UM, WHICH REQUIRED US TO GO TO AN ADJOINING, A PROPERTY OWNER AND GET THEM TO GIVE US EASEMENTS OR AGREEMENTS, TO BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE THINGS.

SO, ANYHOW, WE'VE RUN INTO A REAL HEART, A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE HERE.

UM, WE'RE ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO CHANGE THE PROFFERS THAT WOULD REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO BUILD OUT TO ROUTE 17.

WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OR LESS A SIGNED DOCUMENT THAT, UH, GIVES THE COUNTY A EASE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO PUT UTILITIES THROUGH THAT AREA.

AND WE WOULD ALSO SUBMIT PLANS BACK TO THE COUNTY SHOWING WHERE A, UH, COL-DE-SAC WOULD END AT WHAT IS KEEN OR A DRIVE CURRENTLY.

RIGHT? SO ANYHOW, UM, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO MUCH FURTHER, BUT I WILL WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE REALLY DONE.

I THINK, EVERYTHING THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

THEY PUT THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER AT THE GREATEST DEPTH POSSIBLE, WHICH IS VERY DEEP AND IT COULD BE EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE.

THE WATERLINES WERE, UH, ALMOST 100% LARGER IN SIZE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO ROUTE 17.

UM, AND ALL OF THIS IS AT A GREAT COST.

AND I'LL HAVE TO TELL, TELL YOU, BUT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS AND CENTS THE COST HAVE GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR JOB, LIKE OTHER JOBS HAVE.

SO I GUESS HAVING SAID THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I COULD ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MR. DAVIS? NO, NO QUESTIONS THAT I CAN SEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CARES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE A PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

22 DASH 11.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH 11 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. ROAN, MR. SHEPHERD'S MR. GREEN, MRS. NOLE MOTION CARRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THE NEXT

[3. Establish Salaries for Members of the York County Board of Supervisors. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 22-10 to establish the salaries of members of the York County Board of Supervisors effective July 1, 2022. ]

PUBLIC HEARING IS TO ESTABLISH SALARIES FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BROOKE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

EDWARD, YOU CONSIDER A PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH EIGHT TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES AND I'LL CALL ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE BOARD RECEIVED SOME COMPENSATION.

I DON'T THINK WE WERE REALLY CONSIDERED SALARIES.

IT'S MORE LIKE, UH, UH, COMPENSATION FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY COSTS FOR ALL THE MEETINGS YOU GO TO AND THE BUSINESS YOU CONDUCT.

AND, UM, I FELT LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO WAS TO RECOMMEND WHAT STATE LAW ALLOWS A 5% INCREASE.

YOU ALL HAVE NOT HAD AN INCREASE IN 15 YEARS.

AND I REALIZED THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE BOARD WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SUGGESTING.

UM, UH, BUT SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO RECOMMEND THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND I THINK A $500 INCREASE AFTER 15 YEARS IS MORE THAN REASONABLE.

AND SO

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I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.

UH, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? I LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, PLEASE.

UM, SO MS. MOORE, I APPRECIATE YOU THINKING OF US AND THE POINTS YOU MAKE IN YOUR MEMORANDUM MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND THE KIND OF SURPRISE BEEN 15 YEARS SINCE IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED.

UM, I KNOW THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS IS PROBABLY AN OVERALL DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT GIVEN WHAT OUR CITIZENS ARE DEALING WITH NOW WITH HIGH FOOD PRICES, HIGH GAS PRICES, INFLATION, RIGHT, WHERE IT'S AT KIND OF TAXES SITUATION WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

UH, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO EVEN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN TO.

SO AGAIN, MAKE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS, BUT I'M NOT SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT RIGHT NOW.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I, I AGREE CONCUR WITH MR. ROWAN.

UH, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR AN INCREASE OF THE WRONG TIME, WRONG PLACE, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE IS DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY.

ALTHOUGH COMPENSATION SOMETIMES IS NICE AND EVENTUALLY THE WAY GAS PRICES ARE GOING, WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TALK TO ABOUT SOME SORT OF GAS STIPEND, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF, BUT NO, I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO IF, UH, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT IT WOULDN'T, UM, PASS, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, WE DO HAVE A REVISED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH EIGHT R, WHICH WOULD AT LEAST ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE COMPENSATED.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE THIS ONE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT SAYS IT'S AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES OF MEMBERS OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THE SUM OF 9,000 PER ANNUM, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL SALARY OF 1800 FOR THE BOARD CHAIR, BUT AN ADDITIONAL SUM OF 1200 FOR THE VICE CHAIRMAN EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2022.

AND THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH EIGHT R NO, MOVE IT.

WE HAVE THE OPEN A PUBLIC COMPANY OR ANYTHING.

UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED.

WOULD YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR, PORT AND BORDER.

DO WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING? SORRY, PUBLIC HERE.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? SEE NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL MOVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH EIGHT, OR ROLL CALL PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH EIGHT ARE TO ESTABLISH THE SALARIES AND THE MEMBERS OF THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MR. SHEPHERD, MR. GREEN, MR. ROAN, MRS. SNOW.

YES.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU, HEATHER.

DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE ORIGINAL OR THAT SUPERSEDED SUPERSTITION? OKAY.

WE WENT WITH AN R.

OKAY.

THAT'S JUST MAKING SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE

[CONSENT CALENDAR ]

CONSENT CALENDAR.

UH, WE'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE FY 2023 FUNDING FOR LOCAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

NUMBER SIX IS THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES LEASE AGREEMENT.

NUMBER SEVEN IS A CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES SUPPORT AGREEMENT.

NUMBER EIGHT IS AGREEMENTS WITH VIRGINIA PENINSULA PUBLIC SERVICE AUTHORITY FOR DEBRIS COLLECTION MONITORING SERVICES FROM HURRICANES AND OTHER DISASTERS.

NUMBER NINE IS A SPRINGFIELD ROAD, UH, WOODS KINGS CREEK, A P S E A AMENDED 10 ENGINEERING SERVICES, WHITES VOLKER SANITARY SEWER PROJECT, 11 PURCHASE UP RESOLUTION FOR A KNUCKLE BOOM TRUCK.

NUMBER 12 SURVEYING SERVICES, ANNUAL CONTRACT AWARD.

WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

UH, NUMBER 13 AS THE, UH, 9 9 3 DASH 22 EXTENSION FOR THE DIGS COUNTY RECYCLING CENTER.

AND NUMBER 14 IS THE APPLICATION YOU'D BE 9 9 2 DASH 22 EXTENSION FOR THE DIGS COUNTY FIRING RANGE.

IS THERE ANY ITEM THERE THAT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HE HAD A POLL? WHAT? EIGHT.

EIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE PLEASE? SO WE HAVE NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH WOULD BE THE PENINSULA.

YES, I KNOW.

I CAN'T SAY RIGHT.

AND NUMBER 11 IS THE PURCHASE RESOLUTION FOR THE KNUCKLE BOOM.

SO, UM, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR A QUESTION.

OKAY.

SO REALLY, IF I WANTED TO, UM, UM, FOR CHAD AND STEVE, THE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS

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HERE WITH THIS ONE BACK WHEN ISABEL HIT IN 2003 IS WHAT MACK HAD DONE AT THAT TIME, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, HE HAD ESTABLISHED, WELL, UNBEKNOWNST TO US, UH, SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE, UH, UM, SOME COMPANIES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES CAME FROM, BUT WHEN THE STORM HIT AND THEN TRASHED THE PENINSULA, UM, MANY OF THE JURISDICTIONS AROUND HAD NOT, DID NOT HAVE THESE CONTRACTS.

AND WHAT DID, WHAT HAPPENED IS THEN THEY SCRAMBLED TO GET THE SERVICE.

AND SO IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT, THOUGH, THEY ENDED UP PAYING LIKE THREE TIMES AS MUCH FOR THE SAME SERVICE THAT WE GOT.

SO IT WAS THINKING AHEAD, SAVED US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THAT.

AND IF YOU HADN'T SEEN, HAD AN OPERATION DURING THE TIME, WHAT HAPPENS? THE CREWS CAME IN WITH THESE HUGE TRUCKS AND THEY DROVE THEM INTO THE VIPS SITE AND PEOPLE STOOD UP ON TOP OF A LADDER AND A WALKWAY AND LOOK DOWN AND SEE WHAT GAVE UP, COME WITH THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THE PERCENTAGES, CAME UP IN AGREEMENT WITH HOW MUCH STUFF WAS IN THE TRUCK.

AND THEN THEY HAULED IT IN THE BACK AND, AND THEY, THEY GOT PAID, THEY GOT PAID FOR CLEANING IT UP.

AND ANYWAY, THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.

AND 10 YEARS LATER FEMUR PAID FOR IT.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT HISTORY OUT FOR, OKAY.

THANK YOU, TOM.

I APPRECIATE THAT ONE.

NOW THE KNUCKLE BOOM TRUCK.

SO SOME QUESTIONS JUST SO WE HAVE THREE TRUCKS.

WHAT ARE THEY IS PRETTY, UH, WE HAVE OUR ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

HE'S MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT THAN ME ROB KRIEGER.

SO THERE ARE THREE TRUCKS ACTIVE, AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE THAT IS IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT.

IT'S OVER 12 YEARS OLD, 11, 12 YEARS OLD.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, HOW OFTEN DO THEY HIT, HIT THE ROAD? UM, THESE TRUCKS ARE USUALLY ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THESE ARE THE TRUCKS WITH THE BIG SERVICE BODIES AND THE KNUCKLE BOOM.

YOU CAN CALL IN THE WASTE MANAGEMENT.

THE CITIZENS CAN AND COME HAVE THEIR LIMBS AND DEBRIS REMOVED AND HALTED.

SO, ALL RIGHT, SO WE, WE WERE TALKING TO 12 YEAR LIFESPAN.

UM, NOW UNLIKE AMBULANCE OR FIRETRUCK, UM, THAT THE, YOU NEED TO HAVE IT ALL THE WAY A HUNDRED PERCENT ALL THE TIME WHEN A TRUCK GOES DOWN, NOT, NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

SO THIS LAST TRUCK WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE, OR WE HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH IT, OR WE'RE REPLACING JUST BECAUSE WE HIT 12 YEARS WITH THE TRUCK DOES HAVE SOME ISSUES.

AND IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD ALL THREE TRUCKS RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME, UH, FOR HURRICANE STORM REMOVAL.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I WANT TO CALL IT CHRISTMAS TREE OR TREE AMNESTY OR WHERE WE GO PICK THE BRANCHES UP FOR THE CITIZENS.

AND WE'VE RUN INTO A BIND WITH OUR BEEN IN TROUBLE BEFORE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS ACTUALLY ON THE WE'RE JUST, JUST TAKES LONGER TO GET IT DONE.

WHAT WE'VE DONE.

CORRECT.

UM, THE, UM, HOW LONG, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A NEW TRUCK? IF WE ORDERED TODAY ABOUT A YEAR.

ABOUT A YEAR.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW MUCH TIME DOES THIS TRUCK SPEND IN THE GARAGE VERSUS ON THE ROAD? OH, EXCUSE ME.

HOW MUCH TIME THIS TRUCK HAS SPEND ON THE GARAGE VERSUS, OH, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S THE OLDEST TRUCK AND WE RUN THREE OF THEM, SO IT IS DOWN A LOT.

YEAH.

AND I'M TRYING TO, WHEN I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR, IS, DO WE SPEND TWO AND A SIX TO $8,000 ON THE NEW TRUCK? DO WE SPEND MONEY TO KEEP THIS TRUCK ON THE ROAD? I WOULD BUY THE NEW TRUCK.

YEAH.

BUT THE TRAUMA PROBLEMS, HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING TO KEEP THIS TRUCK ON THE ROAD TODAY? OH, I, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT QUESTION TO THAT.

I MEAN, THE TRUCK'S IN BAD SHAPE, SO HEY ROB, MAYBE ANOTHER, THIS IS ANOTHER APPROACH TO IT.

SO, SO ROBIN, HIS PRIOR JOBS IN THE COUNTY USED TO RUN FLEET OPERATIONS, RIGHT? SO HE'S PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO SOME THINGS WE DO IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO ANALYSIS WHEN THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT IS IF I'M RECALLING, UH, IN PREVIOUS CIP PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE TRUCKS AND OUR PLAN TO REPLACE THEM USING THE SOLID WASTE FUND, WHICH IS A FEE-BASED FUND THAT WE PAY INTO.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN SORT OF THE PLAN FOR SOME TIME, CORRECT? SO, SO THE HONEST ANSWER IS IF WE DON'T BUY IT, UH, IT, WE CAN KEEP IT ON THE ROAD AND AS TIME GOES ON, THERE'LL BE MORE DOWNTIME AND MORE EXPENSIVE REPAIRS AND SORT OF, WHAT'S THE SWEET SPOT FOR REPLACING IT COMPLICATED BY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET IT, UM, AFTER YOU ORDER IT, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE NORMAL TIMEFRAME TO REPLACE ONE OF THESE TRUCKS, UM, IN THE PAST? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? PROBABLY FOUR TO SIX MONTHS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, SO WE'RE THREE, WE'RE TAKING THREE TIMES LONGER NOW, SO IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT.

IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT BID NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE GET THIS TRUCK CORRECT.

IN THE FLEET.

OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ONE QUICK, ONE QUICK QUESTION, PLEASE.

MR. SHEPHERD HAS A QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I SORT OF FAMILIAR WITH THE BOOM TRUCK WHEN WE FIRST GOT THEM TO.

OKAY.

AND, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE BOOM TRUCKS.

I MEAN, WE ENDED UP WITH, I THINK WE FINALLY GOT THAT ONE.

AND IF YOU RECALL, UH, W WHEN THE TREES AND EVERYTHING WAS FALLING, WHAT CAME DOWN THERE WAS A LONG, LONG PERIOD OF CLEANUP.

I MEAN, CAUSE THEY HAD TO, WE HAD ONE LITERALLY COME IN, REPLACED TELEPHONE POLES, WIRES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THE TREES.

OKAY.

AND WE HAD NO RESTRICTION ON THE TREES.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT, UH, AND WE, PEOPLE, CERTAIN PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT WE WERE DOING IT FOR FREE, DECIDED TO DO SOME LAND CLEARING.

OKAY.

AND SO ALL THE BIG, HUGE TREES WERE BEING HAULED OUT TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD.

I MEAN, HUGE TREES.

I THINK WE GOT TO ABOUT AN EIGHT INCH RESTRICTION NOW, BUT THERE WERE SOME OUT THERE THAT JUST MASSIVE.

AND SO OUR GUYS DIDN'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT BOOM TRUCK OPERATIONS.

AND SO THEY STARTED USING THEIR BOOMS TO TRY TO LIFT THESE THINGS OUT.

SO I'M DOWN THERE LOOKING AT, UH, AND ONE OF THE BOOM OPERATOR SAYS, LOOK, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR TRUCK.

AND IT WAS CRACKING, LITERALLY CRACKING, FOUND THE, UH, THE BED OF THE TRUCK.

OKAY.

SO WE, SINCE THEN WE'VE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON IT, BUT STILL THAT WEAR AND TEAR OF THAT BACK AND FORTH IS, IS UNLIKE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON A NORMAL TRUCK.

THIS, BECAUSE THAT BOOM'S OUT THERE REACHING OUT, PICKING UP STUFF.

AND IT'S, I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE WE STILL HAVING THAT KIND OF PROBLEM? UM, THESE TRUCKS WE'VE SINCE CHANGED THEM WITH AN A-FRAME SUPPORT, SO THEY HAVE OUTRIGGERS ON THEM.

SO THERE'S NOT AS MUCH FLEXING WITH THE TRUCKS.

SO WHAT'S BREAKING DOWN ON THE TRUCK.

UH, JUST THE KNUCKLE BOOM, THE, BUT SEE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IT'S KNUCKLE.

BOOM.

THAT'S THE WEAK SPOT OF THE STRUCK.

IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE KIND OF CONSTRUCTION ISSUE IF YOU WILL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU.

YOU ALL MIGHT REMEMBER, I FORGET IF IT WAS A NAME STORM OR NOT, BUT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING MY TIME WE HAD LOTS OF TREE DAMAGE AND IT WASN'T, I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN A NAME STORM, BUT THERE WAS STUFF DOWN EVERYWHERE.

AND, UH, I, WITH THE BOARD'S SUPPORT SAID, WE WILL HAVE AN AMNESTY, PUT IT OUT AT THE STREET AND PICK IT UP.

AND I KNOW THAT KILLED US.

I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST ONE WAS, I WANT TO SAY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, UH, JAMMED US UP FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

SO, SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PACE OF OPERATION, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY AID INTO THE USEFUL LIFE.

AND I STILL THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT CALL BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE WERE TREES DOWN EVERYWHERE.

UM, BUT THAT DOES, IF, IF WE HAD STUCK TO SORRY, PUT IT ON THE STREET, CALL $25 FEE, WE'LL GET THERE WHEN WE CAN GET THERE.

UM, IN A YEAR WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT.

I DON'T THINK SO.

MR. GREEN.

SO WE, WE PURCHASED WHEN I REMEMBER ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, CORRECT.

AND A NEW ONE.

AND SO WHAT IS THE, I GUESS THE AVERAGE OR THE AGE OF THE FLEET? YOU SAID YOU HAD ONE NEW, ONE OLD ONE.

YES.

THIS, THIS WILL, I BELIEVE THE OLDEST ONE WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR YEARS OLD.

SO THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE NEWER.

THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO A MULTITUDE OF YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO START REPLACING THEM AGAIN THROUGH THEIR LIFE CYCLE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I POINTED OUT, I REMEMBERED THE LAST TIME, UH, WHEN THE BIGGEST STORM HIT, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE TREE ISSUE IN THE CONTRACT FOR THE HURRICANE.

THEY DIDN'T USE BOOM, THE BOOM TRUCKS, THEY WERE MANUAL LABOR LIFTING AND GETTING THAT STUFF IN THOSE TRUCKS, WHICH KIND OF THING.

YEAH, IT WAS ALL DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THE POINT IS, WITHOUT THIS STUFF, YOU END UP, YOU SHUT, YOU CAN LITERALLY END UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T MOVE IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET DOWN AT ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO TO ME, THESE BOOM TRUCKS ARE REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL TO THE CLEANUP AND STUFF THAT WE WANT DONE IN THIS COUNTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I ASKED HER IF EMOTION IS THE VERY ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PULL OR I'M NOT SURE.

I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST MAKING A COMMENT ON THAT.

WE GOT EMOTIONAL ON THE AGENDA AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

OKAY.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. GREEN, MR. ROAN.

YES.

MS. MR. SHEPHERD.

YES.

MRS. VAL MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION,

[OPEN DISCUSSION]

BUT I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYTHING ANYONE PARTICULARLY LIKE TO BRING UP? WELL, I WANT TO, UH, I'M SURE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE, I WENT TO RIBBON CUTTING FOR A NEW, UH, TYPE OF, UM, UH, BUSINESS MEDICAL BUSINESS IN YOUR COUNTY AND IT'S CALLED THE COUNTY MED.

UM, AND, UH, WHAT IT IS, IS WHERE YOU NOW HAVE A DOCTOR WHO'S, UH,

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WHO'S INTERESTED IN, MORE FOCUSED ON THE PATIENT AND HAS LESS TO DEAL WITH IN TERMS OF INSURANCE.

AND SO COUNTY MED IS GOING TO BE VERY MUCH LIKE, UH, LIKE, LIKE I LIKE THE OLD TIME DOCTORS WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO KNOW THEM, FAMILY DOCTORS, YOU CAN, AND THEN YOU, YOU COULD CALL THEM UP AT ANY TIME AND, AND EVEN AFTER HOURS.

AND IF YOU DID MEET YOU AT THE OFFICE FOR, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD DO SUTURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AFTER HOURS, UM, THIS, UH, DOCTOR, UM, FI LAMB, UH, IS GOING TO BE THE RIGHT NOW, THAT IS THE PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN FOR THIS IT'S ON US.

UM, WHEREAS IT'S LOCATED AT, UH, ON 17, UH, EXCUSE ME, ROUTE 17 6400 GEORGE WASHINGTON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY.

AND, UM, AND, UH, WHAT YOU DO IS THIS ONE, IT'S JUST LIKE YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP, YOU, UH, YOU PAY, I THINK LIKE UP TO LIKE 150, A HUNDRED, $150, AND THEN WHAT IT DOES IS SET.

OKAY, YOU GET, YOU GET YOUR CARE.

UH, AND LIKE MOST FOLKS, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO TO PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS? YOU DON'T END UP IN A HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE YOUR OWN CATASTROPHIC INSURANCE BILL.

IT'LL HELP YOU SAY, UM, SAVE ON COSTS, UH, PARTICULARLY YOUNG FOLKS, UM, THAT HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUNG FAMILIES, UH, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT WAS NICE TO HAVE A WELCOME TO YOUR COUNTY BUSINESS.

UM, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ON IT, UH, YOU CAN GO TO A COUNTY MED DPC, THAT'S C O U N T Y E M D D P C.COM.

AND THAT DPC STANDS FOR DIRECT PRIMARY CARE TO REPEAT THAT.

OKAY.

REALLY SERIOUSLY.

ANYWAY, THAT'S MY, OKAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I BET I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR TWO WEEKS, BUT A LOT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTY WHILE I'VE BEEN AWAY.

AND I'VE TRIED TO ANSWER EMAILS AS I, AS I COULD.

AND SOME OF THE EMAILS I'VE BEEN GETTING HAD TO DO WITH THE CAR TAX, IF YOU, THAT, TO USE THE COMMON TERM FOR THE CORTEX.

SO I'VE TALKED TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I'D LIKE HIM TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, TO SEE WHAT POSSIBLY WE COULD DO.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT THIS AND, UM, SOON A MEMO, UH, THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZED WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO.

AND I WOULD JUST SORT OF REPEAT THE SORT OF DISTILLED VERSION OF THAT HERE TONIGHT FOR YOU ALL.

SO WE'RE AWARE THAT THE CAR TAX HIT SOME PEOPLE ESPECIALLY HARD, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT SOME DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UH, BUT HONESTLY I HAD NOT FOCUSED ON THAT ENOUGH.

I WAS FOCUSED ON REAL ESTATE TAX RATE REDUCTION, THE IMPACT OF INFLATION AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

AND, UH, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO GAUGE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S HIGHLY VARIABLE.

WE HAD SHARED SOME EXAMPLES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE IMPACTED SIGNIFICANTLY AND SOME NOT JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT PARTICULAR VEHICLES THEY DROVE, UM, I CAN'T UNDO WHAT WE'VE DONE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN OUR 23 BUDGET TO, TO CELEBRATE.

UM, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT CAN WE DO GOING FORWARD? SO FOR, FOR PRACTICAL AND LEGAL REASONS, IT'S KIND OF LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE JUNE BILLING CYCLE, RIGHT? AND I'VE SHARED IT WITH YOU WITH THE BOARD SUPPORT.

WE HAVE TAKEN TWO ACTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, THE TREASURER HAS DELAYED THE IMPOSITION OF THE 10% TAX PENALTY FROM THE USUAL 30 DAYS OVERDUE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO IF A CITIZENS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE SIMPLY SURPRISED BY THEIR BILL AND DIDN'T BUDGET FOR IT, AND NEED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF PAYMENTS OVER THE SUMMER, THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT WITH MINIMAL FINANCING.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF IMMEDIATE PRACTICAL RELIEF FOR THE JUNE BILL.

SECOND THING WE DID, AND I DON'T WANT OVERSTATE THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY BE TARGETED FOR SOME TRUE HARDSHIP CASES.

UH, WE HAVE STOOD UP A HARDSHIP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, DO THE FINE WORK OF, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, THE TREASURER AND THE COMMISSIONER, AND SHOULD, UH, THAT WITH YOU IN THE MEMO.

UH, AND THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE ALL HEARD FOR PEOPLE THAT HAD SOME, UH, TRULY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE.

AND SO, UH, WE DEFINE AN INCOME LIMIT, UH, AT THE SAME LIMIT THAT THE BOARD HAS RECENTLY ESTABLISHED FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ELDERLY AND DISABLED TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.

AND THERE ARE SOME HARDSHIP PROVISIONS, UM, WHICH CAN SUPERSEDE THAT,

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UM, THE TREASURER HAS THAT FORM AND AS SHE ENCOUNTERS PEOPLE, UH, THAT MAY BE IN THAT SITUATION, THEY'RE REFERRED TO OUR HOUSING OFFICE, WHICH IS KIND OF MANAGING THE EVALUATION.

AND, UM, BOARD MAY RECALL, UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, SETTING ASIDE SOME WHAT, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ARPA MONEY, BUT ULTIMATELY IS COUNTY MONEY, UH, WITH A COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY MR. FULLER, UH, AND INCLUDING, UH, SOCIAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND FINANCE.

SO WE DID STAND UP THAT PROGRAM AS JUNE 1ST AND WE'RE OFFERING THAT SERVICE, UH, FOR SOME LIMITED ASSISTANCE IN THE, IN TARGETED CASES.

SO I THINK THE, UM, THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT FIX IS WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE DECEMBER BILLING CYCLE.

WHEN I, WHEN I DRAFTED THE MEMO TO YOU ALL THE FIRST VERSION HAD A LOT OF SAUSAGE MAKING ABOUT WHY IT'S ALL COMPLICATED.

AND, UH, I TOOK MOST OF THAT OUT AND JUST KINDA WENT TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

UM, THE BUDGET FOR 23, UM, HAS THE TAX FOR TWO DIFFERENT CALENDAR YEARS, OR IS THE JUNE BILLING CYCLE IS IN A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR THAN THE DECEMBER BILLING CYCLE.

SO THE BILL THAT HAD EVERY, SOME PEOPLE VERY HARD, UH, WAS IN, WAS REALLY, IS PART OF THE BUDGET THE YEAR.

WE'RE STILL NOT QUITE OUT OF YET.

THE REVENUE ESTIMATE THAT I MADE, UH, PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IN THE BUDGET WAS ACTUALLY MADE IN FEBRUARY OF 21.

AND IF ANYBODY HAD TOLD ME IN FEBRUARY 21, THAT THE PROBLEM YOU NEED TO BE WORRYING ABOUT IN JUNE OF 22 IS SOARING PRICES OF USED CARS.

I WOULD PROBABLY QUESTION YOUR JUDGMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE MISS THAT ONE.

WE NOW UNDERSTAND APPROXIMATELY WHAT THAT ONE TIME EXTRA PAYMENT UNBUDGETED PAYMENT IS.

AND, UM, WHEN YOU SAY ONE TIME, SO, UH, THE, BECAUSE, UM, THE BUDGET, UH, INCLUDES THE DECEMBER BILLING CYCLE AT THE CURRENT ASSESS RATE, BUT ALSO HAS TO TAKE IN THE LIKELY LOWER ASSESSMENT THAT WILL OCCUR ON JANUARY 1ST.

HOWEVER, NOW THAT WE'RE SENSITIVE THE ISSUE, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT NEXT YEAR.

SO WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR DECEMBER.

AND I DO NEED A FEW WEEKS TO WORK.

THE DETAILS OF THIS WOULD BE TO ESSENTIALLY RECYCLE THE WINDFALL THAT THE COUNTY DID NOT ANTICIPATE IN THE JUNE PAYMENT, UM, AND DEPLOY IT AS A REDUCTION IN THE DECEMBER PAYMENT, SO THAT IT MORE OR LESS AS A WASH, THE CHALLENGE OF COURSE, IS EVERYBODY'S AFFECTED DIFFERENTLY, AND IT IS NOT PRACTICAL TO MAKE 25,000 DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS AND, UH, SEND OUT 25,000 CHECKS.

BUT WE CAN DO IS COME UP WITH A REASONABLY FAIR WAY TO TAKE THE WINDFALL MONEY, UM, UH, ASSIGN IT MATHEMATICALLY TO EVERYONE SO THAT THE BILL THEY RECEIVE FOR THE DECEMBER PAYMENT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.

THAT PRACTICALLY WILL BE THE SAME THING THAT SOME OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE ALREADY DONE.

I GUESS WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT FOR JUNE IS ONLY PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO IT FOR DECEMBER.

WHY DON'T YOU, YOU HAD, UH, YOU HAD A GUEST IN THE BUDGET WHEN YOU PROPOSED THE BUDGET.

IF I RECALL IT WAS ABOUT A 6% INCREASE, UM, AND IT TURNED OUT, NO, I THINK IT WAS 11% WAS WHAT WAS 11.

YEAH, IT WAS 11% IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR 23.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT REMEMBER THIS WAS THE BUDGET FOR 2019.

I WAS GOING TO SAY IF, IF, IF THAT INCREASE, THAT INCREASE WAS REASONABLE.

SO, BUT, BUT THAT IT, YOU KNOW, SO, SO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS IS WE WILL HAVE A PRECISE CALCULATION OF WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX IN TOTAL FOR EVERYONE CAN'T BREAK IT OUT BY INDIVIDUAL.

WHAT THAT TOTAL NUMBER WAS, PLUG THAT INTO THE SYSTEM AND COME UP WITH A CALCULATION.

SO THE FINANCE DIRECTORS INITIAL ESTIMATE WAS 3.2 MILLION.

SO WE PLUG THAT IN AND WE SAY, HOW WOULD THAT LOWER THE BILLS IN DECEMBER USING SOME DECEMBER SITUATION, UH, EFFECTIVELY, IT WILL BE MEANINGFUL.

I CAN'T TONIGHT TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD BE, AND THERE'S SOME LEGAL AND SOFTWARE KIND OF DETAILS, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE'RE VERY MOTIVATED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.

AND, UH, BY LATER THIS SUMMER, I'LL COME TO YOU WITH A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION.

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AND IF IT REQUIRES, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ORDINANCE OR SOME PARTICULAR ACTION BY YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO, SO I WOULD JUST, AS AN INPUT, YOU KNOW, WE, MOST PEOPLE HAVE GONE DOWN AT THE HEAD AND EXPERIENCED THE BUYING CARS AND YOU KNOW, THAT CARS AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME DROP OFF VALUE VERY QUICKLY.

AND THEN WHEN THEY GET TO A CERTAIN AGE, THEY HAVE HARDLY ANY MOVEMENT AT ALL.

SO, UH, TWO, I WOULD THINK THAT SOMEHOW IN YOUR FORMULA, THE ALGORITHM, YOU, YOU CREATE THE WORD, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE ALGORITHM SO THAT WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.

YOU MIGHT LOOK AT, INSTEAD OF JUST AVERAGING IN THE OLD CARS WITH THE NEW CARS, YOU MAY END UP SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THE THREE-YEAR GROUP LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS WHAT THE FIVE-YEAR GROUP WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'LL BE ON YOUR COMMITTEE.

BUT I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE IT HAVE A USED CAR OR A NEW CAR, OR IF YOU DRIVE IT OFF IN ONE DAY AND YOUR NEW CAR OR YOUR NEW CAR IS NOW USED, YOU'RE STILL GONNA PAY A WHOPPING HUGE FEE.

SO THE IDEA IS AS WHOPPING HEAT FEES, WHETHER YOU CAN AFFORD IT OR NOT STILL NEED TO BE A BOUNCE, WELL, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

AND I CAN'T TONIGHT SAY EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

BUT THE BASIC CONCEPT WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE JUNE WINDFALL HAS TURNED OUT TO BE IN THE FY 22 BUDGET.

RIGHT? TAKE THAT MONEY, RECYCLE IT INTO A DISCOUNT OR REDUCTION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN THE DECEMBER PAYMENT.

SO TH SO THE BOTTOM LINE, AS SOON AS UNDER THE GUN, YOUR PROPOSAL, THE SOON AS OUR RESIDENTS WOULD SEE ANY, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT, YOU PAID A WHOPPING SUM NOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S ON THE BOOKS.

YOU GOT TO, YOU GOT TO STILL PAY THAT.

AND YOU'VE GOT A DELAYED SYSTEM.

YOU CAN GO OUT UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND PAY IT AND INCREMENTS OUT TO SEPTEMBER, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE REAL CUT ON THAT COST UNTIL DECEMBER, RIGHT? THAT'LL BE YOUR CHRISTMAS PRESENT.

THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO.

SO, SO, SO IF WE DO ANYTHING SOONER, THAT WOULD PROBABLY COST US MORE.

I DON'T, I REALLY NOT.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO IT SOONER THAN THAT.

THE, THERE, ALL OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF CALCULATING IT AND SENDING CHECKS ON THIS POINT, YOU MADE ABOUT HOW TO BE FAIR AND TAKE DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEW ACCOUNT BY FAR THE BEST WAY, THE SMART WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO FIGURE IT OUT, PLUG IT IN TO THE DECEMBER BILL.

UM, AND I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.

NOW I JUST ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF PATIENCE FROM YOU ALL AS WE WORK IN.

YEAH.

REAL QUICK, THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP AND RESPONDING TO OUR FEEDBACK AND ALL, ALL THE, ALL THE CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR MOVING QUICKLY ON THE JUNE ABATEMENT, HOLD IT FOR A WHILE.

I'M INTERESTED IN THE DETAILS WITH DECEMBER.

OF COURSE, THE HARDSHIP PROGRAM IS THAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.

HOW DO PEOPLE LEARN MORE ABOUT, SO, UM, THE, ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMISSIONER AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

AND, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE, ALTHOUGH IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR HOUSING OFFICE IS ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM, AND BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEY DON'T FIND THAT, UM, THEY DON'T FIND THAT THAT, UM, IS A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY TO DO IT.

IN OTHER WORDS, NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN QUALIFY FOR THE HARDSHIP ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A FORM ONLINE.

UM, AND, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO CONTACTS THE TREASURER COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE.

SO THE DIRECTION THE COMMISSIONER AND THE TREASURY HAVE GIVEN THEIR STAFF IS WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER SOMEONE THAT YOU BELIEVE MAY MEET THE CIRCUMSTANCES, REFER THEM TO THE HOUSING OFFICE AND GIVE THEM THE FORM TO THE HOUSE OFFICE.

AND THAT'S ON THE FORM THAT WITH RUSSIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NEIL, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? THEY WOULD LIKE THIS DISCUSS JIM, ARE YOU OKAY WITH ANYTHING? YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? UM, YOU KNOW, REPORT, UH, WE WILL ALL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED A BUDGET, WHICH HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY NICE TO HEAR, UH, SINCE THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, UH, TIME TO GO

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INTO.

OKAY.

AND I'M CHAIRING ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11, A ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENIENT, CLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

WE'LL CALL PLEASE.

MR. ROWAN.

YES.

MR. SHEPHERD.

YES.

MR. GREEN.

YES.

MRS. NOLE.

YES.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION, BUT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE HELD AT 6:00 PM, TUESDAY, JUNE 21ST.

AND THE BOARDROOM OF YOUR CALL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR PAYING ATTENTION.

IT'S MEETING.