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GOOD EVENING,

[Call to Order]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING THIS APRIL 5TH, 2022, THE MEETING WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

AND BEFORE WE START THE BEADING AND THE ROLL CALL, I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT BECAUSE MR. GREEN IS NO LONGER PHYSICALLY WITH US THIS EVENING, MR. GREEN IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF A PERSONAL MATTER, WHICH REQUIRES HIM TO BE AWAY AS PERMITTED BY CODE OF VIRGINIA.

SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 0 8 0.2 AND THE BOARD'S ROLE, A PROCEDURE ONE DASH NINE PROPER NOTIFICATION WAS GIVEN TO THE BOARD CHAIR.

THE PERSONAL MATTER CITED BY MR. GRADE IN HIS REQUEST FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION IS A PLANNED FAMILY TRIP TO VISIT RELATIVES OUT OF STATE ROLL CALL PLACE.

MR. ZAREMBA, MRS. NOLE, MR. GREEN, MR. RON, MR. SHEPHERD, MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Proposed Fiscal Year 2023 Budget. ]

UH, TONIGHT IS A WORK SESSION, AS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THE PRESENTATIONS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET.

AND FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE NEIL HORTON.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, WE HAVE A GENDA THAT WE HAVE PREPARED TO COVER CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY COVER IN THE BUDGET WORK SESSION ABOUT THE START OF YEAR.

UH, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, WITH, UH, DR.

ACRES HERE AND, UM, UH, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORK.

AND THEN, UH, ONCE, UH, WALT IS DONE WITH THAT, AND YOU ALL HAVE REACTED TO THAT.

I'M GOING TO ASK OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, THERESA TO JOIN ME.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS WE WOULD PROPOSE TO GO OVER, UH, PER NORMAL.

WE WOULD GO OVER THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND THE REGIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, THAT ARE IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

ALSO LIKE TO REVIEW, UH, QUESTIONS YOU'VE ASKED ABOUT THE BUDGET UP TO NOW AND WHAT, UH, INFORMATION WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, PROVIDED ABOUT THAT, WHAT A RECAP, SOME OF THE, UH, HIGH-LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE BUDGET.

AND THEN THE LAST THING WE'VE GOT IS TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE STILL WORRYING ABOUT AND SOME OF THE POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT COULD POSSIBLY OCCUR.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR, UH, OKAY.

I'M DELIGHTED TO BE BACK WITH ALL OF YOU IN PERSON.

AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A FAIRLY LONG TWO YEARS OF TELECONFERENCES, UH, BUT I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE COUNTY STAFF THAT WERE VERY HELPFUL IN PREPARING THE STUFF THIS YEAR, PARTICULARLY, UH, SHERRY, SHERRY NEWCOMB, UH, BRYAN FULLER AND DONNA ROSSMAN.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, FROM DISTRICT DISTRICT ONE, GREG SECOND ROW, UH, FROM DISTRICT TWO, ALEXANDRA PAYNE, UH, DISTRICT FOUR, ELLEN BECKER, AND FROM DISTRICT FIVE, DAVID ALLEN.

SO WE HAD 16 APPLICANTS THIS YEAR AND WE HAD TO REACH OUT TO THE GROUPS A COUPLE OF TIMES, BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT IN JANUARY, UH, SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE THAT NORMALLY FALL APPLICATIONS HAD COVID AND THEY FAILED TO FILE APPLICATIONS BECAUSE OF IT.

WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND EVENTUALLY WE GOT ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS IN AND AS ALWAYS, WE, UH, BREAK THE, UH, THE GROUPS INTO CATEGORIES OF SERVICE THAT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHICH GROUPS DO SIMILAR WORK IN A PRIVATE PRIORITIZE, WHERE THE FUNDING GOES.

WE HAVE FOUR GROUPS THAT PROVIDE MEALS AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION, THREE THAT FOCUS ON INDEPENDENT LIVING SUPPORT, TWO THAT PROVIDE REHABILITATION THERAPY AND TREATMENT TO THE PERFORMANCE DEVELOPMENT AND ADVOCACY FOR GROUPS THAT PROVIDE EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL SHELTER.

UH, ONE THAT FOCUSES ON END OF LIFE CARE, ONE THAT WORKS TO REDUCE POVERTY AND TWO OTHERS THAT PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, SOME GROUPS PROVIDED MORE THAN ONE TYPE OF SERVICE, AND THIS BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU DECIDE HOW TO ALLOCATE FUNDS.

SO THE WAY WE COMPUTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST, UH, EACH OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES, UH, REVIEW THE APPLICANTS AND INDEPENDENTLY, THE DECIDE HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MONEY ALLOCATED.

IT WAS UP TO THEM.

THEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER.

UH, WE AVERAGE ALL THE NUMBERS UP AND WE MAKE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT THE NUMBERS ADD IN SOMETHING THAT ENDS WITH A FIVE.

UH, SO YOU'RE NOT WRITING A BUNCH OF CRAZY CHECKS, UH, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY'S DONE THE RIGHT WORK, RIGHT, IT ALL COMES OUT EVEN IN THE END.

UH, SO THIS YEAR WE HAD $50,000 TO DISTRIBUTE AMONG, AMONG THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT'S 10,000 MORE THAN LAST YEAR.

UH, SO THAT'S, UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO BEFORE WE, UH, BEGIN WITH THE APPLICATIONS AND ONE POINT OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT WILL WE CONSIDERED, UH, WHEN MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, UH, WE PROVIDED A MAP OF THE SERVICE AREA THAT'S COVERED BY EACH OF THE APPLICANTS IN THE MIDDLE.

WE'VE GOT A CHART SHOWING THE NUMBER

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OF COUNTY RESIDENTS THEY SERVE VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OTHER LOCALITIES THAT THEY SERVE.

WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED, UH, ON THE RIGHT A CHART SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF COUNTY FUNDING THEY RECEIVED COMPARED TO SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

UH, AND THAT MAY BE DONATIONS, UH, FEDERAL GRANTS OR FUNDRAISERS.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THESE FACTORS TOGETHER, GATHER IT GIVES YOU A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE OF HOW EFFECTIVELY EACH ORGANIZATION SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY.

AND AT THE OUTSET, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT OUR GROUP IS TASKED WITH DISTRIBUTING A FIXED AMOUNT OF MONEY, ACROSS MANY VERY WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS.

AND EACH YEAR THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS ALWAYS EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO MOST ORGANIZATIONS WILL NOT RECEIVE FULL FUNDING.

UH, THIS NO WAY SHOULD BE SEEN TO DIMINISH THE HIGH REGARD THAT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND WHAT THEY DO.

AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE MOST GOOD WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

SO IN THIS CASE, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

UH, THE APPLICATION HERE IS FROM THE REGIONAL OFFICE.

SO THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA.

THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS INCLUDE DISASTER RELIEF IN THE FORM OF FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING, AND MEDICATION.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SUPPORT TO ARMED FORCES MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATIONS, WHICH I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF.

UH, THEY REQUESTED 5,000 AND FUNDING, UH, WHICH THEY TYPICALLY HAVE DONE IN YEARS PAST.

AND THIS YEAR WE'VE RECOMMENDED 1000, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE THE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION OKAY.

ON YOUR PIE CHART HERE.

SO, UH, IT SHOWS IT'S, UH, I GUESS THEY'RE IN HIS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? UH, 700 PEOPLE FROM YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS, YOUR COUNTY WERE SERVED AND 14.

SO YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE IT'S JUST PEOPLE SERVED AND NOT OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T REPRESENT A ONE POINT, WHATEVER IT IS.

1.7 MILLION PEOPLE OF THE, OF THE AREA.

NO, UH, YEAH.

TH THOSE, THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED A SERVICE FROM THE REGIONAL RED CROSS, UH, OFFICE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IS WHAT WAS THE MOST NEED NEEDY SERVICE? DID THEY EVER, DID THEY TELL YOU WHO THE, WHO THEY GAVE MONEY TO, OR WHAT THEY GAVE FOR A PURPOSE? WAS IT A FIRE AT A HOUSE OR A DISLOCATION, OR I DON'T THINK THEY SPECIFICALLY CALL THAT.

I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH THE APPLICATION AGAIN, TO TELL YA, UM, IN A LOT OF CASES WE DON'T ASK FOR SPECIFICS ON THE STEP WE ASK FOR GENERALLY THE TOP THREE THINGS THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION PROVIDES TO THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY AND THE THINGS THAT THEY LISTED WERE THE DISASTER RELIEF IN, IN SOME WAY.

UM, UH, BUT SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATION, I THINK PROBABLY OCCURS MORE THAN YOU WOULD THINK SURPRISED AT THAT.

SO THAT THE NEXT ONE IS THE ARC OF GREATER WILLIAMSBURG.

AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES, UH, SERVICES IN THE FORM OF WELLNESS PROGRAMS, RECREATIONAL THERAPY, SELF-ADVOCACY LIFE SKILL TRAINING TO 127 DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED ADULTS IN YORK COUNTY.

UH, THEY'RE SERVED SERIOUS LIMITED TO JAMES CITY COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND , AND THEY PROVIDE MORE THAN ONE-THIRD OF THEIR SERVICES TO THE, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED $1,500 IN FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH HAS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE AVALON CENTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SHELTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, 24 HOUR CRISIS LINE, UH, COUNSELING SERVICES AND EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

UH, WHILE THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES GO TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, THEY ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE IN YOUR COUNTY WHERE THEY DIRECTLY SUPPORTED 167, UH, RESIDENTS LAST YEAR OF THE THREE SHELTERS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR.

UH, AVALON HAS BEEN THE MOST EFFECTIVE IN SECURING SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER DONORS.

AND THAT SPEAKS VERY WELL OF THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE.

AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING, ANY AMOUNT OF $4,000.

IT IS THE EMERGENCY SHELTER.

DO THEY CONTRACT THAT OUT OR THEY RUN THEIR OWN SELTER, THEY RUN THEIR OWN.

AND IT'S, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE RUNNING, YOU CAN'T GO AND SEE IT.

THEY, THEY MAINTAIN THAT.

NOW, IS THAT IN YOUR COUNTY? IS THAT ELSEWHERE? I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.

I THINK IT IS IN THIS LOCALITY.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN WILLIAMSBURG PROPER, IF IT'S IN YOUR COUNTY.

OKAY.

UH, BUT THEY, THAT'S A FAIRLY WELL GARDEN THING.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND NEXT WEEK IT'D BE BACON STREET, YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES.

UH, THIS WAS A NEW ORGANIZATION LAST YEAR, AND THIS ORGANIZATION FOCUSES LARGELY ON PROVIDING PREVENTATIVE AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES,

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UH, TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF YOUTH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THEIR JOURNEY HOME PROJECT PROVIDES SERVICES THAT ARE FREE OF CHARGE, UH, FOR YOUTH AGED 10 TO 16, AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

UH, THEIR PRIMARY SERVICE AREA IS JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE SERVICES FOR 450 YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THIS YEAR.

AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING $2,700 IN SUPPORT FOR THIS GROUP.

AND THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

THIS ONE'S A NEW ONE.

SO THIS IS MIKE WALKER, WILLIAMSBURG AND FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS THE BICYCLE CO-OP OF WILLIAMSBURG AND PROMOTES BICYCLE SAFETY.

UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDE FREE BICYCLE HELMETS TO ADULTS AND CHILDREN WHO NEED THEM.

AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED A 1050 AND FUNDING TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

BUT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, AT THE BEGINNING, WHEN MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAD TO BALANCE THE RELATIVE IMPACT OF ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AGAINST THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE.

UH, WELL, IF I CAN, THAT JUST OPENED UP THIS PAST WEEK AND THEY'VE GOT OVER 30 VOLUNTEERS, IT'S AN ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY, THEY GET BIKES FROM PEOPLE, REFURBISH THEM.

AND THEN IN THE STORE THAT THEY'VE OPENED, THEY WILL SELL THE BIKES AND USE THE MONEY TO KEEP THEM WORKING AND KEEPING EVERYTHING GOING.

BUT OUR SOCIAL SERVICES THAT OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES AGENCIES CAN NOMINATE PEOPLE TO GET A BIKE FOR FREE.

SO WE'D BE FOR TRANSPORTATION TO WORK, FOR EXAMPLE, OR TO SCHOOL OR TO DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS.

AND THEN THEY GET THEM A BOAT, A BIKE, A VOUCHER, EXCUSE ME, AND THEY BRING IT TO THE OFFICE AND THEY CAN PICK OUT A BIKE AND TAKE IT HOME.

BUT WHAT IS SO WONDERFUL, IT IS THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY DO WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I MEAN, THEY, THEY, THEY TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO REPAIR BIKES AS WELL.

SO YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT.

AND AS I SAID, IT'S AN ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.

IT'S, IT'S IN THE, UH, UH, YOU WALK PAST THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS HAD TO USE BIKES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHILDREN HAVE LEFT HOME AND THEY GOT THESE BIKES AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION WHERE YOU COULD DONATE THE BIKES TO, AND THEY'D BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY'D SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO DO THE REPAIRS, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY INTERESTING.

ALL OF THAT WORKS.

I MEAN, IT'S QUITE A, UH, A VERY BUSY ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING THEM SOME MONEY.

OH, WE'RE JUST MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU GOT TO GIVE UP.

WELL, I KNOW THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WE TRUST YOU IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE THE COLONIAL COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES, AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES COURTROOM AND COMMUNITY ADVOCACY FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE VICTIMS OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND LAST YEAR, THEY PROVIDED SUPPORT FOR 16 CHILDREN IN YOUR COUNTY, COLONIAL CASSA SUPPORTS, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND POQUOSON, AND THEY RECEIVE SOME SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES, BUT THE BULK OF THEIR SUPPORT COMES FROM GRANTS AND INDIVIDUAL DONORS.

UH, THIS YEAR WE'VE RE RECOMMENDED AN INCREASE IN FUNDING TO THIS GROUP IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,450.

NEXT UP IS THE COMMUNITY BRAIN INJURY SERVICES.

UH, THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES LIFE SKILL TRAINING, VOCATIONAL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES TO YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SUFFERED BRAIN INJURY.

UH, THE GROUP HAS A FAIRLY LARGE SERVICE AREA THAT EXTENDS ACROSS THE PENINSULA INTO GLOUCESTER AND ISLE OF WIGHT.

AND THEY'VE ALSO BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING GRANTS, UH, FROM THE SURROUNDING LOCALITIES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN TOTAL FUNDING THIS YEAR, WE'VE RECOMMENDED, UH, $1,850 BE ALLOCATED TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN FULL FUNDING.

NOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE.

THIS FELL UNDER THE OTHER CATEGORY.

UH, THIS IS A HISTORIC VIRGINIA LAND CONSERVANCY.

UH, THIS ORGANIZATION WORKS TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE SIGNIFICANT SCENIC AGRICULTURE AND HISTORIC LAND ALONG THE JAMES YORKE AND RAPPAHANNOCK RIVER.

UH, THEY LIST THE, ALL OF THE COUNTY CITIZENS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COUNTY CITIZENS AS BEING, UH, THEIR SERVICE POPULATION, UH, BECAUSE EVERYBODY THIS YEAR HAS GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE LAND.

SO THEY'VE GOT A STRONG ARGUMENT FOR THAT, UH, AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING $1,800 TO THIS GROUP, UH, WHICH IS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

UH, HOW DO THEY, HOW DO THEY PROTECT THEM PRESERVE? WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEIR ACTIVITIES I'M GOING TO LET BRIAN CHIME IN ON THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T, IT'S BEEN BUMPED THAT I HAVE SINCE I'VE AT THIS.

I MEAN, BASICALLY THEY DO.

THEY, THEY WORK WITH TRYING TO PRESERVE, ACQUIRE LAND, UH, WORK WITH RESTORING WATERSHEDS AND JUST, THEY DO A LOT

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JUST TO TRY TO CONSERVE AND, AND CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

AND THEY GO, I CLEAN UP ACTIVITIES ON THE WATER.

I BELIEVE THEIR WORK IS ADVOCACY, COORDINATION AND EDUCATION.

SO THEY PULL THE OTHER PEOPLE TOGETHER TO, TO DO THAT WORK.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW THIS IS, UH, A VERY WORTHY ORGANIZATION.

THIS IS HOSPICE HOUSE OF WILLIAMSBURG, AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES HOSPICE SUPPORT AND END OF LIFE CARE TO THE TERMINALLY ILL.

AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE BEREAVEMENT SERVICES, UH, AND RESPITE SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVERS.

UH, THIS YEAR THEY PROVIDED SUPPORT TO 32 RESIDENTS IN NEW YORK COUNTY.

UH, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREA IS IN YOUR COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY IN WILLIAMSBURG.

UH, NOW I MENTIONED THE NUMBER 32 LAST YEAR.

UH, THE NUMBER WAS MUCH HIGHER, UH, AND I THINKS A LOT OF THAT IN THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS HIGHER.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET OUT AND ABOUT, UH, WITH COVID GOING ON.

I WOULD EXPECT THIS, THIS GROUP WOULD HAVE A LARGER SERVICE POPULATION NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, ONCE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND MORE, UH, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREAS IN YOUR COUNTY, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, AND WILLIAMSBURG, UH, BUT THEY OFTEN PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AS FAR AWAY AS GLOUCESTER AND SURRY COUNTY.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING FUNDS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER SOURCES.

AND AGAIN, THIS SPEAKS VERY WELL TO THE QUALITY OF THE PROGRAM THAT THEY RUN AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING $3,900 TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS AGAIN, AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

NOW THIS SHOULD BE ONE THAT YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS NATASHA, JUST DOWN THE STREET ON ROUTE 17, UH, AT GOODWIN NECK.

AND THIS ORGANIZATION IS LOCATED IN YOUR COUNTY AND PROVIDES TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SKILLS WORKSHOPS, UH, TUTORING AND COUNSELING, UH, TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

THEIR SERVICE AREA INCLUDES MOST OF THE PENINSULA, UH, BUT QUITE A FEW OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY SUPPORT IN THEIR PROGRAM ARE FROM HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.

UH, THEY FUND THE FUNDING THEY REQUESTED THIS YEAR IS LARGELY TO SUPPORT THEIR SEED TO TABLE PROGRAM, UH, WHICH PRODUCES ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS TO SUPPORT THEIR SERVICES.

UH, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, $8,000 IN SUPPORT.

UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER HERE IS A LARGER THAN WHAT WE SAW WITH THE OTHER TWO SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS.

A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR COUNTY DIRECTLY HERE.

AND SO WE BUILT THAT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, IN THE OTHER TWO CASES, UH, THE, UM, AVALON, UH, ONLY ASKED FOR 4,000 AND WE GAVE HIM THE WHOLE AMOUNT.

SO THEY ASKED FOR A LOT MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY GIVE.

UH, SO WE WE'D HAVE TO TEMPER ALL OF THAT.

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVE AS THAT DOWN FROM YEARS PAST DUE TO THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT IS A LITTLE DAMN, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

NOT TREMENDOUSLY, NOT A LOT NOW.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UH, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, UM, ESPECIALLY IN, IN THE CASE OF A SPOUSAL ABUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UH, WE WE'VE FOUND THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOCKED UP TOGETHER, THEY'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO GET FRUSTRATED WITH EACH OTHER.

SO, UH, THERE WERE ALL THREE OF THESE, UH, SHELTERS HAVE HAD AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY THINK, I THINK THEY COULD HANDLE.

OKAY.

UM, AND IT'S, I DON'T THINK THEY COULD GET AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEERS TO HANDLE MORE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

AND THIS IS THE THIRD ONE, THAT GROUP, AND THIS IS THE TRANSITIONS FAMILY VIOLENCE SERVICES.

AND AS THE NAME SUGGESTS THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER, HOTLINE, SUPPORT, AND ADVOCACY, UH, TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

UH, THEIR SERVICE AREA COVERS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA, UH, BUT THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES, AGAIN, GO TO THE RESIDENTS OF HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.

THEY ALSO RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FUNDING FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES, AND I'VE HAD A VERY EFFECTIVE FUNDRAISING PROGRAM.

AND THIS YEAR WE'VE RECOMMENDED INCREASING THEIR FUNDING TO $5,000.

SO THIS IS A NEW ONE, AND WE STRUGGLED ABOUT THIS, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT OUR THOUGHTS WERE, UH, AND THE UNITED WAY, WHAT THEY REQUESTED WAS FUNDS TO SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE NETWORK, WHICH HELPS TO COORDINATE THE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES TO THE WORKING POOR, AS WELL AS COORDINATING ADVOCACY SERVICES, UH, FOR 820 YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING FUNDING TO COORDINATE WORK RATHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING DIRECT WORK, UH, WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM AS MUCH AS THEY'D ASK FOR.

UH, AND BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT EXACT SERVICE

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HERE AND THEY'RE OFFERING, UH, TO COORDINATE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICE.

THERE IS VALUE TO THAT.

UH, BUT WE, WE FELT LIKE THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DID DIRECT WORK HAD MORE VALUE.

UM, HEY, W HEY, WALT.

YES.

HEY, UH, DIDN'T THINK UNITED WAY, UH, JUST MOVE INTO YOUR COUNTY UP THERE, UH, BY THE, UH, ACE HARDWARE, UH, I BELIEVE STEVE KATZ IS THE, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, BUT THEY JUST MOVED INTO YOUR COUNTY AND WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE, I GUESS, THEIR VISIBILITY.

YEAH.

I DO REMEMBER SEEING, UH, THEIR SIGN ALONG THE STREET, UH, UP THERE NEXT TO WHERE, UH, THE YORKTOWN CRIER USED TO BE THE ACE HARDWARE.

SO PREVIOUSLY THERE WERE TWO FACILITIES, OFFICES WERE IN A CITY CENTER IN NEWPORT NEWS, AND THEY HAD A SERVICE CENTER, UH, UP IN THE NORTH COUNTY, UM, RIGHT OFF OF, UH, UH, WALLER MILL.

AND SO WHEN THE UNITED WAY OF WILLIAMSBURG AND THE UNITED WAY OF THE PENINSULA COMBINED, UH, THAT WAS PART OF A CONSOLIDATION OF ALL OF THEIR OPERATIONS TO THE, YOUR COUNTY FACILITY THAT MR. GREEN'S TALKING ABOUT.

SO, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,575, UH, FOR THAT ORGANIZATION.

AND THIS IS ONE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART, THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA FOOD BANK.

AND THIS GROUP PROVIDES A CENTRALIZED REPOSITORY FOR DISTRIBUTING FOOD TO NEEDY INDIVIDUALS ON THE PENINSULA.

THEY WORK WITH LOCAL CHURCHES AND CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO SET UP DISTRIBUTION POINTS, UH, WHERE FOOD CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEST CAPABLE OF RECOGNIZING WHO NEEDS IT.

UM, THEY'VE A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA AND PROVIDE MEALS AND SUPPORT TO 6,405 RESIDENTS IN YOUR COUNTY.

UM, SO THAT IS A LOT, THAT'S A THIRD MORE THAN LAST YEAR.

I THINK NUMBERS OF PEOPLE SERVED OR IS IT MAYBE EACH TIME THEY SERVE A PERSON THAT COUNTS? NOPE, THERE IS A FORMULA.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, UH, GENERALLY WHAT THESE GUYS REPORT TO US, OUR MEALS, UH, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT AND FIGURE OUT, AND IT'S MILLIONS OF MEALS, RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN THEY, THEY TELL US HOW MANY MEALS THEY PROVIDED IN EACH LOCALITY.

UH, AND WE USE A BASE CALCULATION TO GET THAT, BUT THE NUMBER OF THIS YEAR IS EXTREMELY LARGE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT IS MORE OFTEN THAN OTHERS, BUT IT'S A VERY LARGE PART OF THE POPULATION THAT RECEIVES A BENEFIT FROM THIS.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE COVID SITUATION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN UP AND OUT OF WORK UP UNTIL NOW, UH, AT ANY RATE, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR FULL FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

NEXT IS WILLIAMSBURG, FAITH AND ACTION.

AND THIS GROUP ALSO SUPPORTS, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING BY PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, VISITS WELL CHECKS, AND HELPS THEM WITH CHORES AND DAILY TASKS TO 45, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREAS IN WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO SUPPORT RESIDENTS IN THE BRUTON DISTRICT.

UH, THIS ORGANIZATION IS VERY WELL SUPPORTED THROUGH COMMUNITY DONATIONS AND GRANT GRANTS, AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEIR WORK AND THE CHALLENGING TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN WE'VE RECOMMENDED MORE THAN FULL FUNDING TO THIS ORGANIZATION, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,525.

AND HERE WE HAVE THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM AND THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAMS, BOTH YOUR COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG ARE PROGRAMS THAT FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES.

FIRST, THEY PROVIDE HOT MEAL DELIVERY, UH, TO THE SICK AND ELDERLY, UH, BUT OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE.

THESE GUYS, UH, SUPPORT INDEPENDENT LIVING BY PROVIDING DAILY, UH, CHECK-INS FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE ALONE.

UH, OFFICIAL SERVICE AREA IS IN WILLIAMSBURG IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO PROVIDE SERVICE TO 135, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS, AND A BRUTON DISTRICT OF YOUR COUNTY.

UH, WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY RECEIVE $2,300 IN FUNDING THIS YEAR.

AND FINALLY WE HAVE THE, YOUR COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM AND LIKE THE OTHER NEW YORK COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM, UH, PROVIDES HOT MEALS TO RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING, UH, THEIR SERVICE AREAS, EXCLUSIVELY YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND THEY SUPPORT 530 INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,350.

SO TO WRAP IT UP, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

UM, YEAH, THE LAST ONE, 530 PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY RECEIVE ONE MEAL,

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OR THEY RECURRING VISITS TO THE SAME PEOPLE, UH, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ONE MEAL DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT.

SO HOW DOES THAT, WHAT'S THE CONCEPT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S, IT'S LIKE FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

IT'S A ONE MEAL A DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

UH, AND THAT THAT'S THE, UH, THE BENEFIT THEY GET FROM A WELLNESS CHECK ALSO IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOOD TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S FALLEN DOWN FOUR OR FIVE DAYS LATER.

SO YEAH, THAT'S, I THINK IT MAY VARY OVER A WEEK AND I BELIEVE IT IS FIVE.

I DON'T THINK THEY EMILE THE DAY.

I'M SURE IT'S JUST ONE MEAL NUTRITIOUS MEAL.

AND TO WRAP IT UP, UH, AS ALWAYS, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, THAT, UH, FOOD AND SHELTER FOR THE CITIZENS IN NEED HAS REMAINED THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.

UH, THERE WERE $106,808 WORTH OF REQUESTS THIS YEAR, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS THE WORLD, ALL ORGANIZATIONS, $50,000.

UH, THIS WAS A $10,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

AND MOST OF THE CASES WE'VE TRIED TO ENSURE THAT GROUPS WITH SIMILAR ACTIVITIES HAVE RECEIVED SIMILAR FUNDING.

UH, BUT THERE IS SOME VARIATION BASED ON THEIR SERVICE AREA, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR.

SO GREAT JOB WITH YOUR TEAM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING GROUPS THAT HAVE IMPACTFUL PROGRAMS. AND I REALLY LIKE THE GRADIENT MAPS, THE HELPS ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED.

I'M CURIOUS TO WHAT DEGREE IS YOUR TEAM ABLE TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE? I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT THERE.

UM, AND THE IMPACT SOUND RIGHT, BUT ARE YOU ABLE TO, WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEED OUT THERE, RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN EVALUATE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY.

SO EFFICIENCY ENDS UP WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC MONEY.

EFFICIENCY BECOMES A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT, RIGHT.

UH, SO WE DO EVALUATE THAT.

AND FORTUNATELY, AS ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATE WITH US ARE REQUIRED TO BE 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, THEREFORE THEY'RE REQUIRED EVERY YEAR TO, FOR FOLLOWUP FOR NINE 90 WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

UH, AND THESE ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE BY GUIDESTAR.

UH, SO WHAT WE DO IS WE PULL DOWN THOSE FORM NINE 90 IS EVERY YEAR, AND WE CAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY PEOPLE ARE PAID WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES, WHAT PERCENT GOES TO, TO DO OVERHEAD AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THAT GIVES YOU A VERY CLEAR IDEA OF THEIR EFFICIENCY, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM.

AND A LOT OF CASES, WE HAVE TO RELY ON, UH, WHAT THE PANELISTS INDIVIDUALLY HAVE SEEN, UH, OR WHAT WE HEAR FROM, UH, THE, UH, COUNTY STAFF THAT WORK WITH US.

THEY'LL TELL US HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE THESE ARE IMPACTED IN SOME CASES IS WITH THE LACKEY FREE CLINIC A FEW YEARS BACK, UH, THE IMPACT WAS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT WE SEPARATED IT FROM THIS, UH, AND MOVED IT INTO ITS OWN CATEGORY WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

NOW IT'S ALL PART OF THE COUNTY BUDGET BECAUSE THE IMPACT THEY HAD WAS SO SIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO THE REST THAT IT ALMOST MADE SENSE TO GIVE THEM ALL THE MONEY AND THIS REALLY HURT EVERYBODY ELSE.

RIGHT.

UH, THE OTHERS, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE, UH, THE GROUPS.

A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDE US, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE KNOW, BUT TO GET YOU TO GET THOSE NUMBERS TO WORK OFF OF.

OH, YES.

UM, WHAT DO YOU HAVE A THRESHOLD FOR EFFICIENCY? IT ORGANIZED, IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EFFICIENT IN HOW WELL THEY DISPERSE THEIR FUNDS, UM, TO, TO MAKE THE, MAKE THE LIST.

NO, NO, THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, THEY HAVE TO BE A 5 0 1 C3 THAT HAS A HOST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT GO WITH IT.

UH, SO THAT, THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS WERE THE VETS THAT I TELL YOU, UM, WE WILL EVALUATE THAT AND MAKE THAT A PART OF THE FUNDING DECISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS LOOK AT THESE THINGS THEMSELVES AND THEY MAKE A DECISION, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT.

AND THEN WE SORT OF AVERAGE THAT, UH, SO THE, THE APPROACH THAT I TAKE IS, YES, I'LL LOOK AT IT AT HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY.

UH, IN YEARS PAST WE HAVE ACTUALLY ELIMINATED SOME ORGANIZATIONS, UH, EITHER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FIVE, ONE C3 OR THE, UH, THE EXPENDITURES WERE TOTALLY IMPROPER.

IT WAS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDING, UH, THAT WENT TO THE ACTIVITY VERSUS, UH, THE ORGANIZATION OR VERSUS THE, UH, THE SIGNIFICANT WORK IN THIS CASE.

ALL OF THESE ARE VERY HIGH PERFORMING ORGANIZATIONS.

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OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

IF YOU FIND AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, RIDICULOUS, BUT 90% OF THEIR FUNDS ADMINISTRATION, THAT WOULD BE A BIG, BIG RED FLAG.

WE WOULD NOT.

RIGHT.

SO WE WOULD ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THE, UH, KIND OF TAGGING ALONG WITH WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE AGENCIES OR PRIVATE, UH, FIRMS THAT DO EVALUATION ON A LOT OF THESE, UM, CHARITIES FUEL AND, UM, FOOD BANKS WHEN I'M PARTICULARLY, UH, UH, WAS INTERESTED IN, CAUSE I WAS GONNA GIVE MONEY, TRYING TO GIVE SOME MONEY TO, TO HELP DURING THE CAMP, UH, DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC.

AND, UM, AND I, IT WAS INTERESTING AT THE FOOD BANK.

I NOTICED THE RATING WHEN IT HAD THE FIVE LEVELS.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE UP TO FIVE, RIGHT? FIVE STARS KIND OF THING.

AND, UH, THE ONE IN THE PENINSULA, I NOTICED THAT IT SAID THAT THEY WERE FIVE RATED FIVE STARS.

BUT WHEN I DID THE RESEARCH, IT SHOWED HIM FOUR STARS.

SO I CALLED THE DIRECTOR AND I SAID, WHY THE DISCREPANCY? AND SHE SAID, THEY MADE IT, THEY MADE A MISTAKE.

AND I HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM THE AGENCY THAT DID THE EVALUATION, AND THEN SHE MAILED IT TO ME.

I MEAN, SHE SENT OR SENT AN EMAIL.

IT SHOWED THAT THEY HAD ACHIEVED FIVE STARS.

THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT WAS BASED ON, UH, THE EFFICIENCY USE OF THE FUNDS, THE EFFICIENT USE OF FUNDS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE, IF YOU BUY, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU GIVE A DOLLAR OR HOW MANY, UH, WHAT DOES IT COST TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE A BAG OF GROCERIES, A CERTAIN SIZE OF POUNDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN HOW MANY ARE THEY ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE? AND IT WAS PRETTY PHENOMENAL.

SO, UH, I KNOW ALL THESE, I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL OF THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE AGENCIES THAT DO THIS EVALUATION, UM, THAT YOU'VE BET CITIZENS CAN GO TO AND FIND ONES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO.

I WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE HESITANT WHEN I SEE A 30% OVERHEAD RATE, AS OPPOSED TO ONE, IT MIGHT BE 5% OR TWO AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU SAID THAT YOU CHECK ONLINE, YOU MIGHT JUST TELL A GUIDESTAR GUIDESTAR, UM, GUIDESTAR IS, IT'S GOT A FREE SERVICE THAT ANYBODY CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT THE LAST THREE YEARS OF FORM NINE 90 IS FROM ANY ORGANIZATION.

THAT'S A 5 0 1 C3.

AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS 10 YEARS NOW, I HAVE LIKE 13 YEARS WORTH OF FORM NINE NINETIES.

UH, AND I DON'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE OLD ONES EVERY YEAR, BUT I KEEP THEM ON HAND BECAUSE I THINK AT SOME POINT I MIGHT WANT TO GO IN AND LOOK AT TRENDS OVER TIME FOR SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, UH, FOR THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA, UM, SOME, UH, YOU CAN GET A GOOD SENSE OF QUALITY OF THEIR PROGRAM FROM THE FUNDING THAT THE WAVE'S BURKE HEALTH FOUNDATION PROVIDES.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF ANALYTICAL CAPACITY THAT YOUR COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE AND OUR STAFF DOESN'T HAVE.

AND OFTEN SORT OF AS A PROXY, IF IT'S A SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA AND YOU SEE THAT THE HEALTH FOUNDATION IS PUTTING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INTO IT, THAT MEANS THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THINK IT'S A PRODUCTIVE PROGRAM.

WELL, I CAN'T THANK YOU.

AND YOUR COMMITTEE ENOUGH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

I KNOW IT'S IN DEPTH AND OUT, YOU KNOW, ANALYZING EACH ONE THAT COMES IN TO YOU AND YOU SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME DOING IT.

AND I CAN'T BEGIN TO SAY, THANK YOU.

IT'S CERTAINLY OUR PLEASURE, BUT YES.

OKAY.

$50,000.

WHAT'S OUR BUDGET, UH, 200 MILLION, $200 MILLION.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT WITH THE HUT HIGHTOWN THAT YOU HAVE WITH THIS COMMITTEE, ALL RIGHT.

AND THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY THAT GOES INTO DOING WHAT YOU DO, UH, TO ALLOCATE $50,000 OVER THESE 20 OR SO ORGANIZATIONS, IT'S GOTTA BE FRUSTRATING.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY SATISFYING, BUT FRUSTRATING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES A THOUSAND BUCKS GET YOU NOWADAYS? WHAT'S IT, $1,500.

GET YOU NOWADAYS, NOT VERY MUCH.

THE SAVING GRACE OF COURSE, IS THE RIGHT-HAND CALL, WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER MONEY THROUGH A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT YOU NEVER HEAR ANY, ANY COMMENT OUT OF ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD SAYING ONE, WHY ARE WE ONLY GETTING $50,000? WHAT ARE WE ADVOCATING WHEN THE BUDGET IS BEING DEVELOPED OR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIVE THAN $50,000, UH, OR ARE YOU ALL VERY HAPPY DOING WHAT I SAID, YOU SATISFIED DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING? WOULD THAT REALLY DOES A REWARD FOR IT? I WON'T USE IT HERE.

WHAT THAT KIND OF MONEY, UH, IS.

I MEAN, TIME RIGHT NOW GET $50,000 A WALLET.

UH, AND THIS WIFE

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SAID, DON'T SPEND THAT EVEN ON A THING.

THE POINT OF IT IS 50,000 BUCKS.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ADVOCATED TO THE, TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, WAS AN ARGUMENT THAT MAY SUGGEST THAT THERE BE SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN, OKAY, SO YOU, YOU'VE RAISED A COUPLE OF INTERESTING POINTS THERE.

SO THE FIRST ONE, AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL, A THOUSAND DOLLARS IS NOT WHAT IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

SO THAT EVERYBODY'S SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN COSTS.

YOU GO TO THE LUMBERYARD, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

UH, SO THAT IS ONE ISSUE AND THAT'S CERTAINLY WORTH CONSIDERING.

NOW I WOULD BACK UP 10 YEARS AND SAY, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, WE HAD A BUNCH OF ORGANIZATIONS IN HERE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, MUCH BIGGER AND HAD MORE NEED THAN THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE NOW.

AND OVER TIME, THE BOARD, YOU GUYS HAVE CONTINUOUSLY TAKEN THE HIGH-PERFORMING ORGANIZATIONS OUT AND HAVE PLACED THEM AT A SEPARATE POINT IN THE PART IN THE BUDGET, UH, WHERE THEY CAN BE EXAMINED BY YOU GUYS PERSONALLY, AND ALLOCATED MORE FUNDING, UH, THAN WE WOULD HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL.

AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT.

I CAN REMEMBER AT LEAST THREE TIMES, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'VE ALSO RAISED OUR FUNDING EVERY YEAR.

UM, NOW NOT 50,000 NOW IT'S 50001ST YEAR OF COVID, RIGHT? YES.

AND SO I LOOK AT THIS AND YES, IN A, IN A $200 MILLION BUDGET, $50,000 IS NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I THINK THAT THE NUMBER ONE THING, SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS FOREVER, FOREVER, WELL, VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE LIKE LITTLE SPARKS OF MAGIC, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THEM, RUN THEM BECAUSE THEY LOVE AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THEM GOING.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS IS TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY CAN KEEP GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM FAILING, BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, IF THEY BLINK OUT OF EXISTENCE, THEY WON'T COME BACK.

SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY POET POURING MORE MONEY INTO ALL OF THEM.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT THE ONES THAT, THAT HAVE A NEED THAT ARE IN A PRICELESS GET WHAT THEY NEED TO KEEP GOING.

UH, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOME OF THESE, UH, IF YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE MORE MONEY, I WOULD RECOMMEND POTENTIALLY, UH, INCREASING, UH, NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT THIS GRANT.

AND, UH, CAUSE WE, WE NORMALLY GET THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.

I'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT IF YOU, UH, INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT FOR THE MOMENT WITH THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE NOW AND, UH, THE NEED THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED NOW AND THEIR ABILITY TO RAISE FUNDS ON THEIR OWN, I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE RIGHT NUMBER NOW.

BUT AS TIME GOES BY AGAIN, IF INFLATION CONTINUES THE WAY IT IS, UH, I THINK THAT MAY NEED TO BE REVISITED.

UH, BUT YEAH, YEAH, LIKE HE HAD A PORT COOK VERY IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT THIS IS JUST A SMALL GROUP OR SMALL AMOUNT RELATIVE TO ALL THE MONEY WE DO PROVIDE, I MEAN, A LACKEY FREE CLINIC OR THE, THE, ONE OF THEM HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS GOING, GOING TO THESE SORTS OF THINGS PLUS PROGRESS.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE, UH, SO WE, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN AS PART OF GOVERNMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH, THIS, THIS, THIS WAS SORT OF A GROUP THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME FIGHTING OVER $500 HERE, $800 IN A GROUP.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY, REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WORKING WITH NICHOLSON TIMES TO SAVING GRACES THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, WHICH IS APPRECIABLY HOT, TALLER THAN THE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SO FORTH.

SO THEY'RE THERE SOURCES OF COURSE A MULTI-SITE SOURCES OF INCOME.

YEAH.

UH, I'M JUST SAY YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN AUDIBLE JOB AND I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT TO GET THE MILEAGE OUT OF THE MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATE TO YOU, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLY HONORABLE THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING AS HARD AS YOU ARE WHEN WE, WHEN WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S MY PLEASURE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? THANK YOU, DOCTOR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS SIR.

YEAH.

AND THERESA IS GOING TO JOIN US AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION OF

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YES MA'AM.

OH, OKAY.

UH, YES, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SKILLS LOSE.

CAN YOU SAY HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU PUT INTO ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO? CAN YOU ADD BETWEEN 20, 22 HOURS A DAY OR? WELL, SOME DAYS ARE A LITTLE LONGER THAN OTHERS, BUT NOT TOO BAD.

ARE YOU READY NOW? YES.

OH YEAH.

SO, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS BUDGET WORK SESSION AND, UH, THERESA AND I ARE GOING TO KIND OF TAG TEAM WOULD PROBABLY INTERRUPT EACH OTHER.

AND, UM, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH WHAT I THINK OF IS THE REGIONAL COMMITMENT PART OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO, UH, SORT OF WHAT WE THINK OF AS THE BOARD'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET, SORT OF THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF WHAT WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH IT.

SO, UM, UH, AS ALWAYS, WE TRY TO CATEGORIZE THESE EXPENDITURES IN TERMS OF YOUR PRIORITIES, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE, AS WE GET THROUGH THEM, IT'S NOT A PERFECT, UM, IT'S NOT PERFECT, UH, GROUPING BECAUSE THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT OVERLAP.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE BUYING HYBRID LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES THAT SHOWS UP UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT YOU KNOW, WOULD ALSO BE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

UH, BUT THIS IS JUST A SORT OF A PIE CHART OF THESE REGIONAL INITIATIVES AND, UM, KIND OF HOW THEY BREAK OUT BY YOUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

SO THIS FIRST PART I WAS GOING TO COVER, UM, TRYING NOT TO HAVE A BLIZZARD OF NUMBERS ON THIS PART, UH, PAGE 57 IN YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT, WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL OF OUR SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL ACTIVITIES.

AND YOU ALL WILL RECOGNIZE ALMOST ALL OF THESE AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAS A HISTORY.

SOME OF THEM ARE TIED TO STATE STATUTE, SUMMERTIME TO REGIONAL MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AND OTHER, UH, OTHER COMMITMENTS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THESE AND DESCRIBE THEM.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBER, UH, BUDGET IN EVERY CASE ON THIS LIST.

IT IS, I BELIEVE, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTS A HISTORIC COMMITMENT.

EITHER THE AGENCY YOU SEE, OR A LIKE AGENCY, YOU KNOW, IT GOES OCCASIONALLY THERE'S AN EVOLUTION AND SOME GRIDS CHANGES ITS NAME OR SOMEBODY CONSOLIDATES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO OF COURSE, CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES IS THE AGENCY THAT SUPPORTS PRE SART.

IN ADDITION TO OUR LEASE ARRANGEMENT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

UH, WE ALSO, UH, FOR MANY YEARS HAVE MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT NON-PROFIT OPERATION COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UM, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD THAT WE SHARE THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, ACTIVITY WITH PERCUSSION WAYNESBURG AND JAMES CITY COLONIAL COMMUNITY

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CORRECTIONS IS BASICALLY ADULT PROBATION.

UM, ALMOST ALL OF THESE THINGS REFLECT, UH, SOME TYPE OF REGIONAL COMMITMENT.

SOME OF THEM ARE HAMPTON ROADS WIDE.

SOME OF THEM ARE PENINSULA WIDE.

SOME OF THEM ARE A SUBSET OF THE PENINSULA, UH, THE COLONIAL GROUP HOME COMMISSION, WHICH OF COURSE LAST YEAR WE, WE CLOSED CROSSROADS REMAINS A, UH, REGIONAL OPERATION, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM STILL HAS A LOT OF, UM, SITUATIONS WHERE, UH, PEOPLE UNDER 18 OR PERHAPS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ARE CONVICTED TO, UM, STAYING AT HOME OR REPORTING TO THEIR COUNSELORS.

IT'S BASICALLY THE FLIP SIDE OF COLONIAL COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS FOR JUVENILES.

THE HAMPTON ROADS ALLIANCE OF COURSE, IS THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT WE HAVE REJOINED.

UH, PREVIOUSLY, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS LAST YEAR, THAT WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP AS THE GREATER WAYS WHERE PARTNERSHIPS, THANK YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE STORY ON THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE, UM, DOUG SMITH, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COME AND BRIEF THE BOARD PROBABLY IN JUNE ON THEIR ACTIVITIES.

SO WE HAVE REJOINED THE REST OF THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA.

WE BEING JAMES CITY WILLIAMSBURG IN YORK.

SO WE'VE REJOINED PERCUSSION HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.

UM, THE, THE ROADS MILITARY AND FEDERAL FACILITIES ALLIANCE, LONGSTANDING COMMITMENT, UH, OF THE FULL REGION, BASICALLY THAT WATCHES OUT FOR OUR FEDERAL FACILITIES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ONE THIRD OF THE, OF THE ECONOMY OF HAMPTON ROADS TO MAKE SURE NEIGHBORING STATES AND, UM, REGIONS.

DON'T TRY TO PICK OFF OUR IMPORTANT FEDERAL FACILITIES, THE HAMPTON ROADS PLANNING DISTRICT.

YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

FROM A BUDGETING STANDPOINT, BOTH THE TPO AND THE PLANNING DISTRICT SHOW UP IN THIS LINE ITEM, THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY THE SAME STAFF, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, STATUTORY AND TASKING.

YES, YES.

UH, THE HAMPTON ROADS WORKFORCE COUNCIL, ISN'T ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES OF SOMETHING THAT'S EVOLVED.

WE PRIVACY, WE PREVIOUSLY, UH, SUPPORTED THE REGION ON A PENINSULA BASIS.

IN THIS CASE.

NOW WE HAVE FOLDED THAT INTO AN ENTIRE HAMPTON ROADS ACTIVITY, UH, HERITAGE HUMANE SOCIETY OF ONE OF TWO ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATIONS.

WE DID SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THIS ONE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR EXPANSION AND TO SOME DEGREE BECAUSE THAT PART OF THE COUNTY IS GROWING MORE RAPIDLY.

JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN FOUNDATION.

I THINK WE ARE SEVEN YEARS INTO A 10 YEAR COMMITMENT.

THAT WAS PART OF THE STATE'S INVESTMENT IN THE MUSEUM A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR.

SO, UM, THE SECOND PAGE OF THIS PART OF THESE REGIONAL COMMITMENTS, OBVIOUSLY JUVENILE DETENTION, THE SERVICE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH, I THINK THE PSALM AND THE BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE OVER 200,000, UH, IN THAT CASE, UH, WE ARE A REGIONAL PARTNER WITH ABOUT 14 OTHER LOCALE AT 16, BUT WHO'S COUNTING, SORRY.

IT 16, I THINK IT IS 16, UH, PENINSULA EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

THIS IS, UM, THERE'S THIS, THERE'S A SERIES OF THESE ALL AROUND THE STATE AND OUR REGIONAL CLUSTERING INCLUDES THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA AND THE, UH, THE MIDDLE PENINSULA.

AND THIS IS AN AGENCY THAT HELPS OUR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PARAMEDICS MAINTAIN ALL OF THEIR CERTIFICATIONS, PENCIL HEALTH DISTRICT.

OF COURSE, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM VERY WELL IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

UM, AND, UM, THAT IS A FORMULA BASED CONTRIBUTION.

UM, PENINSULA REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER, ABOUT 80% OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES ARE, ARE SUPPORTED BY THIS FACILITY.

IT'S LOCATED AT NEWPORT DUES HAMPTON BECAUSE OF THE NEW YORK, OUR PARTNERS IN THAT SITUATION, SOCIAL SERVICES, IT SEEMS KIND OF PECULIAR TO ME TO HAVE THIS ON THIS LIST, BUT TECHNICALLY, EVEN THOUGH IN MANY WAYS THEY FUNCTION LIKE A COUNTY DEPARTMENT.

UH, THEY ARE, UH, AN ENTITY OF THE STATE AND IT IS THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

SO, UH, WE PROVIDE THE LOCAL MATCH.

US DOES AS DOES PERCUSS ON A PER CAPITA BASIS AND A LOT, A LARGE PORTION OF THE FUNDS FLOW FROM FEDERAL AND STATE SOURCES, UH, VIRGINIA PENINSULA, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AKA THOMAS NELSON, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, A LOT OF INTEREST ON THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ROLE.

THEY PLAY AS, AS WELL AS THE REGIONAL

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WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACTIVITY, UH, MANY YEARS AGO, UH, YOUR COUNTY COMMITTED TO BE A PARTNER, UH, WITH THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA, UH, IN AN ENTITY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED THE PENINSULA MAYORS AND CHAIRS ON HOMELESSNESS, ALL SIX, UH, PENINSULA LOCALITIES, UH, SEND THEIR MONEY TO NEW PRODUCE, WHICH IS THE FISCAL AGENT.

AND I THINK YOU MAY BE AWARE THEY HAVE NOW OPENED A DAY SHELTER DOWN THE OLD MARINE BARRACKS PLUS TO THE, UH, DAILY PRESS BUILDING, UM, THE VIRGINIA PENINSULA REGIONAL JAIL.

UH, WE ARE FORTUNATE IN MY VIEW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOCAL JAIL ANYMORE.

SO ALL OF OUR PRISONERS ARE HOUSED THERE, YOU KNOW, PRE-SENTENCING, AND, UH, THAT IS A FACILITY THAT WE RUN REGIONALLY WITH, UH, JAMES CITY WAYNESBURG AND , AND THE NUMBER KIND OF STICKS IN MY MIND BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS.

THAT'S A STATISTIC.

THAT'S EASY TO REMEMBER.

WE SPEND APPROXIMATELY THE SAME AMOUNT ON THE REGIONAL JAIL AS WE DO ON LIBRARIES.

UM, THE, UH, WILLIAMSBURG AREA TRANSIT.

UH, SO THE MAJOR EXPENDITURE, UH, WE ARE TO SOME DEGREE, THE JUNIOR PARTNER, UH, W UH, WITH WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY, BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL BUS SYSTEM, THE, THE SPOKEN HUB OF IT WAS AROUND WILLIAMSBURG.

UM, THEY DO HAVE A GRANT AND WE'LL BE STANDING UP A DEMONSTRATION ROUTE DOWN ROUTE 17, UH, ALL THE WAY TO, UM, UH, WALMART, UH, TIED INTO A CONNECTION POINT IN LACKEY.

THERE'LL BE A THREE-YEAR DEMONSTRATION RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING EMPLOYEES TO RUN THE BUSES, BUT THAT'S, UH, COMING UP, UH, THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY, UH, IN OUR BUDGET THAT ALSO SHOWS UP AS YOU KNOW, PART OF LIBRARY FUNDING, WHICH IS A SUBSET OF EDUCATION.

UM, BUT IS THIS FORD WELLNESS, UH, WE'RE A FORMULA PARTICIPANT IN THAT SYSTEM.

AND, UH, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE.

AND WHENEVER ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT IT, I ALWAYS POINT OUT THAT IF YOU COMPARE IT TO, UH, UH, DESIGNING AND BUILDING AND OPERATING A THIRD LIBRARY, IT'S RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE COMPARED TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS POINT IN OUR COMMUNITY'S HISTORY.

AND THEN FINALLY THE YMCAS COMES IN TWO PARTS.

UM, THERE'S THE, UM, THE, UH, THE COMMITMENT, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE NORTH COUNTY, YFCA AT $75,000 A YEAR, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER THREE YEARS OR SO TO PAY OFF.

AND, UM, THE TAB, Y YMCA IS IN THE MIDST OF A PLANNING AND FUNDRAISING EXERCISE OR EXPANSION.

UM, THEY IT'S TAKING LONGER AND THEY'D HAD SOME SETBACKS IN TERMS OF THEIR LAYOUT.

SO THAT, SO THE ONE THING THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE IS THEY'VE REDONE THE LOCKER ROOM COMPLEX.

AND SO WE JUST CONTINUED THE $50,000 PLACEHOLDER FOR THAT INITIATIVE.

UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH A, A MORE AMBITIOUS, UH, PROPOSAL AND REQUESTS, BUT AT THIS POINT THAT'S PENDING, BUT WHY NOT THE SAME AMOUNT FOR BOTH GLOBE YMCAS REGARDLESS? I MEAN, THEY SERVE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

WELL, UM, I CAN ONLY REPORT THE HISTORY THAT SOME OF YOU ALL LIVED AND I'VE JUST HAD REPORTED TO ME THAT YOU HAD A 10 YEAR, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ARRANGEMENT WITH THE TAB LIBRARY, WHICH PAID OUT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

AND THEN YOU HAD A SIMILAR $75,000 A YEAR COMMITMENT FOR THE NORTH DISTRICT ONE SO THAT'S THE 75 IS ACTUALLY PER AGREEMENT.

UM, IT WAS IN THE, UH, THE ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'VE BEEN WALTZ DISTRICTS IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NEAR THE HOSPITAL.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS IT'S, IT'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF Y TO Y YMCA, MORE OF A, MORE OF A REHAB OPERATION THAN THE ONE YOU HAVE OVER IN A TAP THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.

UM, THAT ONE, I THINK THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THEY WERE ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT THEY GOT LIKE THE BIGGEST ONE, THE BIGGEST ONE IN THE WHOLE REGION.

AND IT'S, I WANT TO SAY IT'S AROUND 13,000 MEMBERS, SO IT WAS 18,000 FOR A WHILE.

SO MY POINT TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE, UH, THE WILKINSON ONE IS REALLY A, SORT OF A MORAL OBLIGATION, THE 75,000 FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS, THE 50,000 THAT I'VE GOT RECOMMENDED FOR THE TAB ONE IS JUST SORT OF A PLACEHOLDER

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NUMBER.

THERE'S NO CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE, UM, UM, THAT PARTICULAR WISE GUYS IS, IS INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE AREA.

I MEAN, THEY GET, THEY GET IS HUGE.

OKAY.

AND, UH, AND THE SPACE IS ONLY SIX AND A HALF ACRES, I BELIEVE.

AND SO THEY MAY END UP TRYING TO GO UP.

YEAH.

PUTTING MORE PARKING IS A PROBLEM.

THE PARKING IS A BIG PROBLEM, WHAT THEY USING THE LIBRARY, THEIR DEPARTMENT.

SO, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THEY COME IN AND TRY TO ASK FOR, ASK FOR SOME MONEY TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT, BUT CONSIDERING THE LAND THEY'RE ON IS OUR LAND AND THE SERVICE THEY'RE PROVIDING IS PRETTY HUGE.

AND WE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO REALLY SERIOUSLY CONSIDER DOING.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE READY YET.

NO, THEY'RE NOT.

AND THEY ARE NOT.

BUT YEAH.

SO, SO MY PURPOSE IN GOING OVER THOSE TWO SLIDES, I WAS GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THERESA FOR THE NEXT PART, WHICH HAS ACTUAL NUMBERS.

UM, ALL OF THESE, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS IN THE BOOK AND ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHING AT HOME, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALSO, YOU CAN PULL THIS UP ONLINE.

UM, SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S REPRESENTS OUR HISTORIC COMMITMENTS AND ALL THE REGIONAL INITIATIVES WITH MOSTLY ONLY INCREMENTAL CHANGES, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE BUDGET.

AND SOME OF THESE, WE HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF REGIONAL SERVICES THAN SOME OF OUR BIGGER NEIGHBORS.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST DO MORE THINGS THROUGH REGIONAL AGENCIES, UM, WHICH GENERALLY IS EFFICIENT OTHER THAN THEY ALL COME WITH A COST OF GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE SOME BOARD THAT ONE OR MORE OF US ANTICIPATE IN.

WOULD YOU HAVE, TELL ME WHAT THE NAME OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX AUTHORITY, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT? UH, BRIAN, CAN YOU REMEMBER THE HISTORICAL TRIANGLE, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AUTHORITY, TRIANGLE, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

I CAN'T WRITE THAT DOWN TOO FAST.

OKAY.

WOULD THAT EVENTUALLY MAKE IT HERE? IF THAT EVER BECOMES A THING WITH THAT DEGREE, GET OUT OF HERE.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE.

UH, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH INTO THAT, RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S, THIS IS WHERE WE SEE IT AS, UM, AND THEY ARE TWO ANIMALS SHELTER RELATED.

YES.

SO THE PENINSULA ANIMAL SHELTER IS THE LARGER ONE THAT'S OVER THERE.

IF YOU KNEW WHERE A COATS AND CLARK USED TO BE, WHERE BROCKVILLE AND JEFFERSON, THERE'S A NEWPORT NEWS AND PARTNERSHIP WITH YORK HAMPTON AND BECAUSE, AND BUILT A NEW ANIMAL SHELTER IN, UH, 2012.

AND, UM, ABOUT 80% OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, DOGS AND CATS AND CRAZILY, SOMETHING ELSE ARE TAKEN THERE.

AND THEN ABOUT 20% GO TO THE ONE ON THE HERITAGE, UH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY JAMES CITY ACTUALLY OPERATES THEIR ANIMAL SERVICES OUT OF THAT.

IT'S KIND OF PECULIAR.

UH, I WENT TO THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THEIR EXPANSION.

IT'S OF COURSE IT'S IN YOUR COUNTY, UH, ON, UH, AND SO THE MAYOR OF WILLIAMSBURG WAS THE GUEST SPEAKER AND JMC COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS THEIR FACILITY THERE.

UH, UH, KEPT, FELT A LITTLE BIT LEFT OUT.

WE COULD HOST, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE MONEY TO, UH, WELL, THAT, OF COURSE THAT'S THEIR SOLE PROVIDER OF THE SERVICE.

WHEREAS WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST KIND OF ANCILLARY.

YOU HAVE A NORTH ON A SIDE OF BASICALLY, RIGHT.

I THINK THAT WAS A KILL SHELTER.

OH, IT IS.

IT IS.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IT WILL BE REQUIRED.

THEY DON'T, I MEAN, THEY'RE CERTAINLY DISCOURAGE IT, BUT THEY HAVE TO DO IT SOMETIMES.

SO, SO I'M GOING TO GO, I'M GOING TO GO TO THERESA AND JUST KIND OF THE SODA FOR THIS PART IS THESE ARE, UM, OBVIOUSLY HAVE NUMBERS IN THEM.

AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTINUITY, BUT SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN ITEMS THAT THE BOARD HAS TAKEN, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL ANSWER INTEREST IN, IN THE PAST.

AND WE WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THEM IN SOME DETAIL.

SO, UM, LIKE NEIL SAID, THESE ARE, UM, ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.

HE WENT OVER THE REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND THE ONES THAT WERE CONTRACTUAL.

AND SO THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE JUST LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE BOARD, UM, HAS GENERALLY APPROVED FUNDING FOR.

SO WHEN I WAS GOING TO DO HERE, THEY'RE ALL IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE WHAT WE'VE HAD, WHAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THEN WHAT WAS REQUESTED FOR .

AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE RECOMMENDED BASED ON EACH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, APPLICATIONS.

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SO, UM, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THIS UP HERE.

AND THEN ONCE YOU, YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO, TO LOOK OVER THESE, THESE ARE ALL ON PAGE 57 IS WHAT IT WAS AS WELL.

UM, ONCE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE, UM, WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, SOME OF WHAT WALT SAID, OR ARE IN HERE WHERE WE, WHERE, UM, WE'VE PULLED OUT FROM THE COMMITTEE AND WE'VE PUT THEM IN, UM, THESE WERE THESE, THIS, UM, THESE SLIDES SO THAT THE BOARD BOARD, UM, CAN, CAN LOOK AT THOSE, SEE IF THEY WANT TO FUND THEM.

SO YES.

DID THE WATERMAN'S MUSEUM PUT IN A REQUEST? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALWAYS JUST ONE STEP ONE, SLIDE AHEAD.

YUP.

DID THE LIVING MUSEUM, ARE THEY ON HERE ANYWHERE? YES, THEY ARE AS WELL.

THEY'RE ON THE FIRST PAGE.

NO, THE LEMON MUSEUM IS NOT, THE MUSEUM HAS NOT, HAS NOT SUBMITTED, UM, APPLICATION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

YES.

OKAY.

THEY, THEY MUST GET THEIR MONEY BECAUSE OUR KIDS GO OVER THERE.

I THINK YOU'RE FREE BECAUSE THEY REALLY GIVE, UH, THROUGH THE SCHOOLS.

YEAH.

I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE LIVING MUSEUM IN THE PAST AND THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION SOMETIME IN THE PAST.

THEY DID, BUT NOT IN THE LAST, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I WAS THINKING OF THE VIRGINIA.

AND SO, SO TO, TO MR. GREENSPAN.

SO THERE WERE TWO PAGES OF THIS AND OUR THOUGHT WAS, WE WERE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT ON ONE PAGE AND LET YOU LOOK FOR A LITTLE BIT AND GO TO THE OTHER ONE.

SO IF YOU COULD FLIP BACK AND FORTH, WHATEVER IT, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, OR YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HARD COPY AND EACH OF THEM HAS A STORY, OF COURSE.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAD THE LACKEY FREE CLINIC CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE OLD TOWN WAS IN HERE AS WELL.

UM, YOUR CHAMBERS ARE IN HERE, MUSEUMS. SO WHAT'S THE, YOUR COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMITTEE ON THE 23.

WHY ARE THEY WAS EMPTY? SO THEY ACTUALLY REQUESTED MONEY LAST YEAR.

AND YOU, YOU ALL GAVE THEM MONEY LAST YEAR.

AND WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY WANTED TO DO LAST YEAR.

SO THEY HAD FUNDING.

THEY ALREADY HAD FINANCIAL FUNDING THIS YEAR, CORRECT? SO THEY, THEY DECIDED NOT TO, UM, THEY SAID, NO, HANG ON.

WE DON'T NEED THE MONEY THIS YEAR.

WE EXPECT TO SEE THEM IN THE, IN THE NEXT YEAR COMING UP, THEY WERE JUST BEING GOOD STEWARDS.

THEY GOT OUR MONEY AND KIND OF USE IT VERY GOOD.

REMIND ME OF THE LAUNCH PAD, RACHEL INCUBATOR.

SO, UH, THE LAUNCH PAD IS A, AN INCUBATOR THAT WE DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY AND THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY THAT USED TO BE LOCATED IN NEW TOWN.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN MARRIED, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS.

SO THEY NOW HOST IT AT TRIBES SQUARE.

AND SO THIS IS OUR CONTRIBUTION FOR THE, THE OPERATIONAL PART OF IT.

UM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY STATISTICS ABOUT HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE GRADUATED FROM THERE, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME POSITIVE SUCCESS STORIES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

WE WERE ALL PARTICULARLY EXCITED WHEN DR.

ROWE WANTED TO BRING IT ONTO THE CAMPUS.

UH, SO IT'S SORT OF TIED INTO THE MASON BUSINESS SCHOOL NOW.

SO THIS IS A BUSINESS INCUBATOR FOR, FOR THE NEW BUSINESSES.

CORRECT.

SO THEY, OKAY.

THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THAT AND WE PROVIDE OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR IT.

YES.

BUT DO WE EVER GET A REPORT, LIKE A QUARTERLY REPORT OR ANNUAL REPORT ON WE'LL DO THAT.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOVERNING BODY THAT WE LIAISON WITH.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT.

GET THAT.

I CAN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN THE LAST ONE WAS, UM, WE CAN, I'D LIKE TO HELP JUST HOW SUCCESSFUL NOT SUCCESSFUL NECESSARILY, BUT HOW MANY HAVE WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHED THROUGH THE, UH, THIS COOPERATIVE EFFORT? UH, THERE'S GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT.

WE'LL GET IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE TWO CHARTS, BASICALLY THE, THESE ORGANIZATIONS BASED UPON THEIR REQUEST AND THE PR IS THE SAME AS THE PROPOSAL, EXCEPT FOR THE HISTORICAL.

SO WHY WAS THAT ONE OFF THERE'S TWO OR THREE THAT WE, WE MADE OUR JUDGMENT.

ALTHOUGH WE REALIZE THAT YOU ALL THIS, THIS STUFF IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CARE ABOUT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD, THEY ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT LAST YEAR, WE FUNDED THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND, UM, I, I'M STILL NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR

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HOW THEIR PROGRAM HAS SERVED US.

SO I DIDN'T RECOMMEND AN INCREASE.

IT'S NOT A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT.

UH, I THINK IT'S YET TO BE PROVEN WHAT THEIR VALUE IS.

WELL, IT'S SORTA, I KNOW I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN YEAH, DON'T WE HAVE TWO ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO THAT AND MS. MASON AND MR. CLARK.

YES, WE DO.

BUT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GET THEM TO COME IN AND, UH, EXPLAIN, UH, EXACTLY HOW IT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS IN YOUR COUNTY.

SO WE DID HAVE A STAFF HAD A MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY THEY HAVE SOME WORTHY, UH, IDEAS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TRANSLATED INTO ACTION JUST YET THE WAYNESBURG AREA, MEDICAL ASSISTING COURT.

UM, WHAT, UM, MEDICAL.

SO, UH, IT'S AN INTERESTING ONE.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ON, ON THIS, IN THIS GROUP, ONE OF THE BIGGER ITEMS. UM, SO THEY ARE, UM, AFFILIATED WITH JAMES CITY COUNTY.

THEY'RE HOUSED IN A JAMES CITY COUNTY BUILDING.

UH, THERE'S A GOVERNING BOARD THAT, UM, THIS BODY IS INCLUDED ON AND THEY HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF PROVIDING, UM, HEALTH CARE TO, UH, PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE, BUT UNLIKE THE LACKEY FREE CLINIC THERE, THEY HAVE SORT OF A HYBRID MODEL.

SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO THERE PAY AND SOME ARE, DO NOT, WHEREAS LACKEY'S A HUNDRED PERCENT FREE BASED ON WASTE, WHERE DO WE PERCENTAGE YOUR COUNTY PEOPLE SERVE? UM, SO OUR CONTRIBUTION IS SMALLER THAN THE JAMES CITY ONE.

UM, AND THERE'S A FORMULA OR NOT REALLY A FORMULA, A, UH, SOME GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW IT'S DONE.

AND HISTORICALLY WE HAVE, WELL, IN SOME YEARS, IF OLD TOWN WENT UP, I RECOMMENDED A PROPORTIONATE INCREASE OF LACKEY BECAUSE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF LACKEY, UH, CUSTOMERS OR YOUR COUNTY.

UM, BUT LIKE HE DIDN'T ASK, I THINK BECAUSE OF COVID THEY PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, SO THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.

SO WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT THE, UM, UM, THE VIRGINIA TECH EXTENSION PROGRAM.

UH, THE EXTENSION PROGRAM IS, UM, WE, WE COVER THAT IT'S ABOUT A $60,000 BUDGET, OR WHERE WOULD THAT IT'S NOT IN HERE DIVISION OR DEPARTMENTS IS TIED TO PARKS AND REC.

YEAH.

IT'S AN EDUCATION.

AND THANKS TO MY LIBRARY, IT'S WHERE LIBRARY.

SO IN THE EDUCATION PROGRAM, PART OF YOUR BUDGET, OF COURSE, THE BIG NUMBERS OF SCHOOLS, AND THEN WE HAVE LIBRARIES AND THEN I GUESS WE HAVE EXTENDED.

SO JUST TO, YOU KNOW, CALL A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER ONES TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE HOUSING PARTNERSHIP, UH, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND, UH, GIVING THEM THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THEY ASKED FOR.

UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY BASED ON BRIAN, STAFF'S JUDGMENT THAT, UM, THEY COULDN'T USE THE MONEY WISELY RIGHT NOW.

SO, OKAY.

REFRESH ME ON WHAT IS THE PARTNERSHIP, THAT HOUSING PARTNERSHIP.

SO THEY WORK WITH US.

THERE ARE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM AND KARMA GARDENS RIGHT NOW.

AND WE DO A LOT OF ASSISTANCE IN CARVER GARDENS.

THEY WORK WITH, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO PUT ELLS DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR PROPERTIES? AND THEY'RE A GOOD PARTNER.

UM, BUT WE WE'VE ALSO TAKEN OVER SOME OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WITH OUR STAFF.

I WAS GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED ON A PART.

UH, THE GENTLEMAN CAME DOWN AND, UH, GAVE US A GOOD BRIEFING ON THE, ON THAT PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO AND KNOW THEY'LL WORK WITH US AS WELL.

UM, AND IT ALL, HE USED TO WORK FOR THEM.

OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND HE'S DOING IT DOWN CURIOUS CHAPEL.

SO NOW, SO HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH WHAT HE'S DOING? AND WE WORK HAND IN HAND TOGETHER.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES THEY, WHERE WE, WE HAVE TO MATCH A PROJECT WHERE WE'LL GET 80% OR 90% OF THE MONEY FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.

HOUSING PARTNERS WILL KICK IN A LITTLE BIT AND THE COUNTY WILL KICK IN SOME OF IT TO MAKE IT WORK.

UH, IN THE PAST, THEY'VE DONE SOME OF THE INSPECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BEFORE.

WELL, THE GRANTS, THE GRANTS ARE LIKE MILLION MILLION PLUS, AND THIS IS ONLY 15, $10,000.

SO

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W I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT SMALL AMOUNT AND THIS ORGANIZATION, WHAT DOES IT SOUND LIKE TO MEET IS DUPLICATION OF EFFORT HERE.

THEY HAD PUT IN THERE THAT, UM, THEY ALSO, IF THERE'S A NEED, THEY USE THE MONEY FOR KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT, THAT I THINK ABBOTT'S GROUP, WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS PLUMBING DONE, OR, YOU KNOW, PLUMBING AND PART OF WHAT THEY DO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO PLAY ALL THE SAME RULES.

AND THEY ALSO USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT.

YEAH.

THEY ALSO HAVE A LIST OF GROUPS OF VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY ALSO SOLICIT MONEY OUTSIDE FROM OTHER NONPROFITS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN JUST WHILE THEY WORK WITH JAMES CITY, COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG AS WELL.

AND IT'S ALSO, WE'RE KIND OF CAR REGARDLESS IS KIND OF PHASING OUT AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE WE RAMP UP FOR ARIZONA CURIOUS CHAPEL.

AND THAT MIGHT, THE ROLE REMAINS TO BE SEEN ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THE, UH, YORKTON, YOU'RE KIND OF HISTORICAL MUSEUM, THE ONE DOWNSTAIRS, THIS BUILDING.

WELL, HIS BUILDING OUT HERE TOO.

OKAY.

SO THE, THAT, UH, WE DID NOT PUT THE NUMBER IN IT.

THEY REQUESTED, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARK SERVICE.

THE PARK SERVICE WANTS TO START, UH, REQUIRING A LEASE PAYMENT FOR WHERE THEY HAVE THE LITTLE PHARMACY APOTHECARY MUSEUM AND REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER THAT ENDS UP BEING REQUIRED OR NOT.

BUT IF IT DOES, SINCE THIS MUSEUM IS ESSENTIALLY OUR GUESTS AND OUR BUILDING HERE IN THE END, IF THE PARK SERVICE REQUIRES A LEASE, IT'S SEEMED LIKE A BETTER MODEL WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY TO DO THE LEASE AND LET THEM BE THE SUBTENANT, JUST LIKE THEY ARE IN THIS BUILDING RATHER THAN TO GET THEM INTO THE REAL ESTATE VERSUS WHAT THE PARKS THAT WOULD BE RIGHT.

IF IT HAPPENS.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING ON HERE WHERE THE COUNTY IS THE SOLE PROVIDER OF FUNDS.

I DON'T THINK SO.

LET'S SEE.

SOME OF THE FOUNDATION, I BELIEVE IS THE YORKTOWN FOUNDATION, WHICH ONE, SOME OF THEM, THEY GET MONEY FROM SOMETHING ELSE, BUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UM, LIKE THE, YOUR ACCOUNT SYMPHONY, THEY GET MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WHAT ABOUT THE TALL SHIPS COMMITTEE? DO THEY HAVE ANY OTHER SOURCE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S, UH, THEY, THE, COUNTY'S PROBABLY THE SOLE SOURCE FOR IT, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROBABLY THE SOLE BENEFICIARY BECAUSE THEY BRING IN ALL SHIPS HELP ASSIST WITH WHAT WE DO.

SOMETIMES WE'LL GET A TALL SHIP THAT WILL COME IN FOR FREE.

UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME, SOME COSTS FOR A PARTY OR A RECEPTION FOR THE CREW.

SOMETIMES WHEN THESE TALL SHIPS COME IN, WE NEED TO PUT THE CAPTAIN UP IN A HOTEL FOR A COUPLE OF NIGHTS.

UH, SO THEY DON'T STAY ON THE SHIP.

SO, UM, WE GET A LOT OF BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

UH, SPEAKING OF THAT BUT, UH, I JUST HAVE ALL THE SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS ON THIS LIST.

I MEAN, THE TALL SHIPS, ONE TO ME IS SPEAKING OF BANG FOR BUCK.

EVERY TIME WE GET ONE OF THOSE SHIPS DOWN THERE, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL YOU, OR, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST LITTLE INVESTMENTS WE MADE AND THE COST, IF WE WERE TO PAY FOR A SHIP TO COME IN JUST FOR A WEEKEND, SOME OF THOSE SHIPS CAN BE $15,000 FOR A WEEKEND JUST TO SHOW UP, JUST TO SHOW UP.

AND, AND OUR, OUR DOCK MASTER JAMES SCRUGGS DOES A REALLY GOOD, HE'S GOT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE SHIPS.

A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN KIND OF REPLAY, UH, PROVIDE A PLACE OF RESPITE.

THEY MAY BE A NORFOLK PER WEEK, AND THEN THEY MAY HAVE A WEEK OFF BEFORE THEY GO TO BALTIMORE, PHILADELPHIA, OR WASHINGTON.

AND JAMES HAS GOT A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND ALWAYS REACHING OUT TO THEM.

AND THEY'LL COME HERE FOR EIGHT BECAUSE IT'S EITHER THAT, OR THEY'LL JUST GOING TO FLOAT AROUND IN THE BANK FOR A WHILE.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DRAW A LOT OF THEM IN, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO BET.

OKAY.

KIND OF, CAUSE I TOLD SHIPS THE ALLIANCE, DO THEY REQUEST ANY BOOKS? UH, THEY, UH, THEY HAVE A LEASE WITH US, SO THEY PAY US RENT TO BE ON OUR PIER AND THEY, OF COURSE THEY TAKE A TOUR LIKE THE COSTS NOW AMOUNT.

BUT, UH, I HAVEN'T QUESTIONED ANY MONEY ON TOP OF ALL THAT.

NO, NO, IT'S A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.

IT'S A BUSINESS.

AND OF COURSE IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO HAVE THAT SERVICE.

I'LL SIT DOWN THERE AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO DO.

YEAH.

UM, I'M NOTICING HERE THAT THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CELEBRATE YORKTOWN SYMPHONY IS $5,000 FOR THIS.

THEY RAISED A LOT OF MONEY.

MAYBE THEY DO RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.

THAT'S THAT'S WE STARTED THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

WHEN, WHEN ALMAS WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE THE SOUP, THE IDEA WITH THE SYMPHONY, IT'S KIND OF A MARKETING THING.

IT'S A FREE CONCERT.

IT'S FREE TO THE PUBLIC TO COME WATCH

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COMMITTEE ABOUT $35,000 EACH YEAR TO PUT IT ON.

AND WE'VE REALLY WORKED WITH THEM OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THAT WORD OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE RAISING FUNDS BECAUSE EVERY IT'S ALL, IT WAS A FREE CONCERT.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE THAT CONCERT.

SO WE WORKED WITH THEM, UH, BUT THEY DO RAISE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT, THAT SYMPHONY, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IT THIS YEAR? THAT IS THE PLAN.

YEAH.

WE COULD HAVE IT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND UH, WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE IT, BUT WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR THIS YEAR.

CORRECT.

I THINK WE FINISHED WITH THIS SECTION OF IT.

I THINK SO.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO MOVE ON AND YOU GOT SOME OTHER IMPORTANT STUFF.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO COVER JUST BRIEFLY IS SINCE I PRESENTED THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON MARCH 15TH, THERE WERE THREE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL ASKED THAT WE HAVE ANSWERED IN THE MODES THAT WENT OUT IN THE CORRESPONDENCE PACKAGE.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE AND WHAT THE ANSWERS WERE.

UM, THE, THE LARGEST QUESTION WAS, TELL US ABOUT, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER POSITIONS AND HOW MANY ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE COMP BOARD AND HOW MANY ARE COVERED BY THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S QUITE INTERESTING.

SO OF THE FIVE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 188.5 POSITIONS, 102 OF THOSE ARE QUOTE AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE COMP BOARD.

BUT INTERESTINGLY, EVEN OF THOSE AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE SPACE COMP BOARD, THEY ONLY PAY SLIGHTLY OVER 50% OF THE ACTUAL COST.

SO THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND PAYS $9.7 MILLION A YEAR FOR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER POSITIONS.

AND THE STATE CONTRIBUTES FOUR POINT SOMETHING.

IT'S A LOT LIKE SOME OF THOSE SCHOOL FORMULAS WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GIVING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, BUT THEN IT'S ONLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ON A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

UH, SO THAT WAS INSIGHTFUL.

I DID NOT HAVE THAT STATISTIC MYSELF BEFORE.

AND SO THAT WAS A VERY INTERESTING ONE.

UH, WE ALSO ANSWERED IN A MEMO, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE YOUTH LIBRARIAN POSITION TO CLARIFY THAT IT WASN'T JUST FOR SMALL CHILDREN, THAT'S ALL THE WAY BASICALLY UP THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AGED KIDS, SOMEWHAT ANALOGOUS TO THE PROGRAM, THAT TAB.

AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTAL INCOME.

UM, SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE THE, UH, UH, TOURIST HOME CONVERSATION, SOMEBODY IMPLIES THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WERE FAVORABLY CONSIDERATE BECAUSE OF THE MONEY AND, AND WHAT THAT A MEMO FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE DEMONSTRATED IS THAT WOULDN'T BE THE REASON WE DO THAT BECAUSE FOR ALL 13 OF THEM, WE, WE GIVE A COMBINED AMOUNT OF INCOME OF ABOUT $20,000.

SO THEY'RE NOT, NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE FOLLOWED UP ON AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD THIS PART, BUT JUST MAYBE SOMEBODY TUNING IN AND WATCHING, AND HADN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE.

UH, JUST SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS BEFORE YOU, I MEAN, THE THING THAT I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT, AND I THINK YOU ALL DO AS WELL IS WE ARE ABLE TO CONSIDER A SMALL REAL ESTATE RATE DECREASE, UM, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UH, RIGHT FUNDING, THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS A REALLY BIG TICKET ITEM, HEALTH INSURANCE.

WE'RE STILL ABLE TO OFFER A, A VERY COMPETITIVE PACKAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

UH, WE HAVE A PRETTY STRONG COMPENSATION PACKAGE, UM, BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF INFLATION.

SO IT'S, IT KIND OF SOUNDS BETTER THAN IT IS.

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, UM, MOST OF THE NEW POSITIONS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY ORIENTED AS WE DISCUSSED, AND WE HAVE A STRONG SCHOOL CONTRIBUTION, BUT AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR NEW REVENUE, IT WOULD BE SMALLER THAN MOST YEARS BECAUSE THE STATE IS DOING BETTER BY SCHOOLS THAN THE TYPICAL STATE YEAR.

THE REAL ESTATE RATE DECREASE OF 1.50 CENTS.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT MY REAL ESTATE, UH, CALCULATION IS INSTEAD OF 79.50 CENTS FOR EVERY $100 WORTH OF SUCH VALUE.

IT'S NOW 79.5 MONTHS.

IT'S 9.4, WHICH IS 78 CENTS.

WE PREPARED THE SLIDES JUST FOR YOU.

OH YEAH, THAT, ONE'S THE QUESTION I HAD LAST TIME.

UH, SO WE'RE THERE 1 79 0.5 TO SEVEN EIGHT.

YES.

YEAH.

AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, OF COURSE LIKE TO SEE ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL PROBABLY DON'T MIND SEEING IT EITHER, BUT, UH, WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS IF ANYTHING, WE'RE CONSOLIDATING OUR POSITION AS THE LOWEST

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COST FULL SERVICE, MAJOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN HAMPTON ROADS WITH THIS RATE CUT.

AND I KNOW PEOPLE WOULD BE TEMPTED TO GO FURTHER AND, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE BECAUSE I'M GETTING READY TO GIVE YOU MY ANXIETY LIST OF THE THINGS I'M WORRIED ABOUT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRETTY REMARKABLE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNTY.

NOW, ONE LAST QUESTION TIED TO THAT SAME QUESTION.

OKAY.

UH, THE 78 CENTS PER $100 WORTH OF SUCH VALUE COMES DOWN.

NOT BECAUSE WE WERE NECESSARILY BENEVOLENT PEOPLE.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT IT'S, I THINK DRIVEN BY THE INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD IN TAX ASSESSMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S THAT STATUTORY PROVISION.

THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO READ, UH, YOU KNOW, INDICATES THAT IF THE TAX ASSESSMENTS OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSES GOES UP A CERTAIN PERCENT, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE BY WHATEVER.

WELL, ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO TELL EVERYBODY IN AN ADVERTISEMENT WHAT THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE IS.

IF WE WERE TO CUT THE RATE SO THAT IN NOMINAL DOLLARS, THE AVERAGE PERSON PAID THE SAME AMOUNT, WE'D HAVE TO CUT IT TO 74 CENTS.

AND THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING TO THIS, TO THIS BUDGET AND WITH ALL THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT A MORE FAVORABLE, UH, SPIN ON IT, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, UH, IF YOU TAKE INFLATION INTO ACCOUNT, WHAT WE BASICALLY DO WITH THIS CUT IS WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING AN INFLATIONARY INCREASE FROM THE GROWTH OF REAL ESTATE AND REALLY NOT MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE REASON TO THINK THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY, UH, SORT OF NEW USED CARS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO UP SOME, LIKE, WE'RE ALMOST SURE THEY WILL.

UH, AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AGITATION ABOUT THAT, BUT WE HAVE, UH, ONE OF THE LOWEST PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATES, UH, IN THE REGION.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE WELL POSITIONED.

THERE WAS $4 PER, PER, UH, $100 OF VALUE VEHICLE.

AND THAT'S FROM THE BLUE BOOK, GREEN BOOK VALUES.

I BELIEVE THE NATIONAL AUTOMOBILE DEALERS ASSOCIATION IS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS.

AND I THINK SHE USES THE LOVE.

THERE'S CERTAIN VALUES, AND THEY'RE NOT, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT, WHICH IS PROBABLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR SOME, YEAH, JUST LIKE CIELO SAYS YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH MORE THAN OUR ASSESSMENTS.

WAS IT THE OTHER WAY ROUND? NO, TILL IT SAYS IT'S WORTH MORE, PRETTY SURE ANYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT THEIR ASSESSMENTS SAY, WOULD YOU SELL IT FOR YOUR ASSESSMENT? MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY NO.

UM, OKAY.

SO THIS IS BY OF MY ANXIETY LIST.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BRIEFLY, UH, WAS CALLED IN YESTERDAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

AND SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS GOING TO DO.

WE DO KNOW THAT THE STATE HAS, IS IN A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION.

SO IN THE SHORT RUN, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME AS MY BUDGET RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS WILL BE OKAY AS FAR AS WHAT THE STATE DOES.

BUT, UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 1 CENT OR THE GROCERY TAX THAT IS LOCAL REVENUE AT THE MOMENT.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT $3 MILLION IS STILL AT RISK.

UH, OUR FINGERS CROSSED ASSUMPTION IS EITHER THAT WILL NOT BE APPROVED, OR IF IT IS, THERE WILL BE SUBSTITUTE REVENUE, UH, WHICH IS 3 MILLION OF OUR $156 MILLION.

SO THE SECOND ANXIETY POINT IS WE HAVE, UM, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE ESTIMATES FOR OUR CONSUMER TAXES.

LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE WERE A LITTLE TOO CONSERVATIVE WITH COVID.

THE CONSUMER TAXES DID BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE GONE A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH THE OTHER WAY IN THIS BUDGET.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH FUEL PRICES UP AND THE UKRAINE SITUATION, UH, WE NEED TO REALLY WATCH, UH, HOW THOSE CONSUMER REVENUES PERFORM GOING INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

I SAW THAT ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR INTERNATIONAL BANKS TODAY STARTED PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, A US RECESSION LATE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S JUST ONE ECONOMIST PROJECTION, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

YEP.

AND THEN, UH, THE FINAL POINT OF NEUROSIS FOR ME AND THE STAFF IS, UM, WE DO TO THAT CONSTRUCTION

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COSTS ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP THAT MAY LEVEL OFF, BUT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A BIG TICKET PROJECT, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING, GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO BID.

AND, UM, IF, UH, AT THE END OF THIS BUDGET, IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY UNALLOCATED DOLLARS OR IF WE HAVE A STRONG SURPLUS, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT WHAT OUGHT TO BE DONE WITH THAT IS BE SET ASIDE TO COVER THOSE COSTS.

SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YEAH, BEFORE YOU GO THERE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, IS THERE AN OPTION TO BUY A HEAD BY NOW, STOCK PILOT? WE THINK WE'LL GO UP BEFORE WE NEED IT.

UM, NOT FOR THE MOST PART, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE KIND OF HAVE DONE THAT BECAUSE WE AWARDED THE SITE WHERE CONTRACT SEPARATELY AND I SEE ALL THAT BIG CONCRETE PIPE OUT THERE.

AND IF WE HAD WAITED AND DONE THAT AS PART OF THE PROJECT RIGHT OFF THE START, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIX MONTH DELAY BEFORE ANY PIPE SHOWED UP.

AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPENSIVE.

ALSO RECALL, UH, WE ALREADY ORDERED THE GENERATORS FOR THE BUILDING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT UNDER STATE LAW THERE'S ANY WAY TO DO THE MAIN PROCUREMENT MEAN YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO BID IT OUT AND YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE THE BIDS.

SO FOR THE MAIN CONSTRUCTION, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, AND IN THIS FIRST CASE, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION TO, TO MAYBE GIVE ME DIRECTION TONIGHT AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY.

SO WE HAVE A, AS ALL THE LOCALITIES AROUND HERE HAVE, AND IS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW, A REAL ESTATE TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED.

AND TO BE HONEST UNTIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT HASN'T REALLY COME UP IN THE SEVEN YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE THROUGH A COUPLE OF Y'ALL AND SOME DIFFERENT CITIZENS.

THE QUESTION WAS, I THINK, RIGHTLY ASKED, SHOULD WE CONSIDER ADJUSTING THAT PROGRAM, GIVEN THAT WE'VE HAD A PERIOD OF MORE SIGNIFICANT INFLATION OF THE LAST TIME YOU ALL LOOKED AT, OR YOUR PREDECESSORS LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM WAS 2004.

AND, UM, SO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A LOW INFLATION ENVIRONMENT, IT DIDN'T HARDLY MATTER.

UH, BUT, BUT NOW WE'RE IN A, IN A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF RULES IN THE ORDINANCE AND, AND I'VE GOT ALL THAT AND I CAN SHARE IT ALL WITH YOU, BUT I'LL TRY TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT IF WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO TAKE A, A DETAILED, ANALYTICAL LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOUR SUPPORT TO TWEAK THE EXISTING PROGRAM AND SORT OF A SIMPLE WAY THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS WITHOUT SORT OF PEELING BACK ALL OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WENT INTO THIS PROGRAM IN 2004, THAT YOU ALL AGREE TO, A FLAT 10% INCREASE IN EVERYTHING RELATED TO THIS PROGRAM, SAY THERE'S LIKE DIFFERENT INCOME REQUIREMENTS LIKE AROUND 20,000.

IF YOU MAKE LESS THAN 20,000, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT PEAKS OUT AT 50 WHERE YOU GET A $300 BENEFIT.

THERE'S ALSO A RULE THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN $200,000 OF LIQUID ASSETS.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS IF I CAN GET YOUR ALL'S GREEN LIGHT TONIGHT, THAT WE PROCEED NOW WITH THAT SIMPLE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE $20,000 LIMIT WOULD GO UP BY 10%.

THE $50,000 CAP WOULD GO UP BY 10%.

THE ASSET LIMIT WOULD GO UP BY 10%.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY DO BASED ON SOME STATISTICS WE'VE LOOKED AT IS GIVE US BASICALLY A THREE YEAR INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.

SO WE SORT OF RESTORE THE PROGRAM TO WHERE IT WAS TWO FISCAL YEARS AGO.

AND THE REASON I, I KIND OF PUSHING FOR A DECISION IS THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE HAS TO PUT OUT ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY.

AND SHE KIND OF NEEDS TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

SO ALL THE APPLICATION MATERIALS CAN GO OUT, YOU KNOW, IN TIME FOR EVERYONE TO APPLY AND IT ALL BE CLEANED UP.

SO WE HAVEN'T MADE AN ADJUSTMENT SINCE 2004, CORRECT? SO NO PLACEMENT ADJUSTMENTS IN THAT TIME.

AND WE'VE HAD A RECENT YEARS OF SEVEN, 7%,

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7% BY SOME JUST RECENTLY.

SO, AND THEN YOU MIGHT ASK, WELL, HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST THE PROGRAM AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS? THERESA'S ESTIMATE IS IT COST ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR IN LOST REVENUE IN OUR BELIEF IS IF WE MADE THIS 10% ADJUSTMENT, UH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE 50 TO $75,000 RANGE COST.

SO THAT WOULD BE A LOST REVENUE AND THE BUDGET INCREASED BENEFITS.

AND MY QUESTION IS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WE'VE OVERLOOKED.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T TAG IT TO THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FROM HERE ON.

WE MIGHT GET FORWARD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS OR FORGET ABOUT IT.

THESE PEOPLE NEED THE HELP.

SO MS. HALL, WE MIGHT VERY WELL RECOMMEND THAT AS THE WAY TO GO.

I REALLY LIKED THE TIME TO SORT OF ANALYZE THE WHOLE PROGRAM.

THAT CERTAINLY IS THE ASSET REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? OR THE, THE AMOUNT OF TAXES REDUCED THE RIGHT AMOUNT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ALSO KNOW WHETHER THE LAWS, THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO.

THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS I'M SURE, BUT WHAT I'M CLEAR ON AND TALKING TO, UH, UH, MR. BARNETT IS IF WE, IF WE COULD JUST DO THIS STRAIGHT 10%, EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A BAND-AID TO SORT OF GIVE PEOPLE A LITTLE RELIEF, AND THEN WE WOULD COMMIT TO A MORE CAREFUL ANALYSIS BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

YES.

WHAT PERCENT CHANGE OF OUR POPULATION FROM 2004 WILL BE EFFECTED BY THIS? I MEAN, WE HAD TO GO ON UP.

SO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE PROGRAM TODAY? UM, THERE'S ABOUT 450 AND TODAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW HOW MANY WORDS, THAT'S WHY I ASKED BECAUSE I LISTED THE BUDGET.

I GOT 2011, SORRY, GO BACK 2011 OR 679, 6 79, AND 2011, THE HOUSE ABOUT 424 30.

AND SO WHY IS THAT TREND IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ANALYZED, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S A LOT LOOK INTO, RIGHT.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE FALLEN OUT BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN, UH, A CHANGE IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS OF OUR ELDERLY POPULATION, ALL THAT.

BUT I HATE TO DO THIS, LIKE SPRING SOMETHING ON YOU AND ASK FOR AN IMMEDIATE DECISION.

BUT TWO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.

AND IT WOULD SORT OF BE AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY VETTED ON A BUDGET, BUT IF THE COMMISSIONER KNOWS WE'VE MADE THE COMMITMENT, SHE CAN SET UP THE PROGRAM AS THOUGH THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT SIDE.

I PERSONALLY KNOW I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I THINK WE CAN HELP.

DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT? NO, IT'S A NEEDED TO BE DONE.

IT'S A LONG OVERDUE.

WELL, I WILL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, AS LATE AS AT LEAST THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND SOMETIMES AS LATE AS, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT WE'RE VOTING ON THE BUDGET, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME LAST MINUTE THINGS THAT WE CHANGE.

AND, UM, SO THIS WILL BE ONE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FACTOR IN A REVENUE LOSS FROM ADJUSTING THE PROGRAM.

IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE UPSIDE, UH, IN A FINAL ADJUSTMENT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE FUEL COSTS.

AT THE TIME WE PUSHED THE BUTTON ON THE BUDGET, WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER.

UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, OUR, OUR BUDGETED FUEL COSTS IS ABOUT 25% OFF TODAY'S GAS PRICES, HIGHER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, LESS MONEY THAN WE NEED.

YOU HAVE A CONTRACT DON'T DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THE FUEL FOR OVER 12 MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT IS.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO DELIBERATE, BUT THE PRICE IS MARKET-BASED.

YEAH.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD A CONTRACT FOR GOODBYE, CAUSE NOBODY WOULD DO THAT SERIOUSLY YEARS AGO.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS WELL, THAT'S HOW THE REFINERY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND GET INSURANCE SUPPLY, BUT NOT PRICE MARKET PRICE.

AND WE DID IT THE OTHER WAY.

IT'D BE A FUTURES CONTRACT.

YEAH.

SO, SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE SCRUBBING THAT.

UM, AND UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME THINGS THAT SOMETHING GOT LEFT, WE FOUND SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T COST AS MUCH OR WHATEVER WE FIND OUT, WE WILL ATTEMPT TO SEND YOU ALL WRITTEN INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.

SO THIS IS THAT FUEL PRICE BASED SAID WHOLESALE MARKET.

YEAH.

SO, SO OUR PRICE DOES, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THE STATE AND FEDERAL TAX AND MORE, I HAVE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I'LL REMEMBER IF YOU, IF YOU, I DON'T REMEMBER.

I DON'T

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KNOW IF YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TOTAL FUEL BUDGET, ISN'T IT LIKE 900,000? THAT'S A R HALF THE OTHER HALF IS THE SCHOOL.

SO IT'S 1, 6, 1 7, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

BUT OUR HALF IS SOMETHING IN THAT RIGHT AROUND THE 900,000.

OKAY.

SO THE SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE TO SORT OF, THEY HAVE TO SWEAT EAT THE OTHER PART OF IT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT DIESEL FOR GENERATORS, AS WELL AS ROAD VEHICLES.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL, EVERYTHING, EVERY COMBUSTIBLE AND THERE, WE HAVE SEEN PRICES GO UP AND DOWN SO MANY TIMES DURING BUDGET CYCLES.

THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IT COULD GO BACK DOWN WITHIN OUR BUDGET AMOUNT EASILY.

UH, BUT LIKE IF YOU GOT, IF YOU GOT SOMETHING LEFT ON THE TABLE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, IT WOULD JUST BE A SMART PLACE TO PUT IT.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I HAD ONE OTHER MORE SIGNIFICANT, UM, UM, PROPOSAL TO THROW OUT TONIGHT AS AN ADJUSTMENT.

YES.

SO, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE LABOR MARKET AND TURNOVER AND VACANCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE WANT TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN AFFORD WITHIN THE REVENUE CONSTRAINTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER ANXIETIES I MENTIONED.

AND, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS WATCHING WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO PROPOSE A BUDGET.

AND SO AS THE WEEKS GO BY, WE SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING.

AND, UM, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT, UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT ON THE HIGH END, IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS, WILLIAMSBURG HAD A SPECIAL OFF BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.

JAMES CITY IS APPARENTLY GOING TO END UP WITH SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO OURS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO START AT TWO MONTHS EARLY SO THEY CAN ADVERTISE THEIR POSITIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGHER SALARIES.

UM, JAMES CITY, WILLIAMSBURG SCHOOLS, UH, HAVE AN APPROVED BUDGET THAT IS, UH, AS A SALARY INCREASE 2% MORE THAN OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH CAUSED THE SUPERINTENDENT SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, CONCERN.

SO WE WERE THINKING ABOUT, COULD WE DO SOMETHING RESPONSIBLE RELATED TO THAT ISSUE, UH, WHILE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE UNKNOWN AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ANXIOUS ABOUT.

SO I HAVE A PROPOSAL AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DECIDE TONIGHT, BUT I GUESS I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE ME YOUR SENSE ON IT AND TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE TO HAVE A, A BUILT IN SMALL SUPPORT, SUPPLEMENTAL SALARY INCREASE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR FOR COUNTY STAFF AND SCHOOL STAFF.

IF AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER, I CAN CERTIFY TO YOU CERTAIN THINGS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, UH, FIRST OF ALL, BY, BY THEN WE COULD CONFIRM THAT THE SURPLUS WAS ADEQUATE FOR EVERYTHING WE HAD PLANNED TO SPEND IT ON LIKE A BUNCH OF MONEY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND THE 12%, UH, YOU KNOW, DEBT RESERVE, UM, THAT THE GROCERY TAX MONEY IS EITHER IN THE BUDGET OR THE STATE HAS PROVIDED ADEQUATE SUBSTITUTE REVENUE.

AND THAT THE, UM, THE REVENUES IN THE BUDGET THAT I'M RECOMMENDING AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER ARE PERFORMING ADEQUATELY.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE, UH, IF YOU LIKED THIS IDEA, UH, YOU WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE TO BLOW UP ANY OF THE ARITHMETIC IN THE BUDGET YOU'RE CONSIDERING.

UM, AND YOU WOULD ADD, UH, TO THE BUDGET APPROVAL RESOLUTION, SORT OF AN IF THEN STATEMENT.

AND, UH, BASICALLY YOU WOULD SAY I'M AUTHORIZED TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL RAISE, UH, IN WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS FOR, UH, COUNTY EMPLOYEES IN THE ANNUAL AVERAGE AMOUNT OF $750 BELOW THE LEVEL OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE THAT SAME ANNUAL AS THING.

SO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TOWARD THE, TOWARD THE LOW END KICKING IN HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, WHICH IS ALSO NICE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE COMES IN.

AND THEN BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS HAVE EVERYBODY ON A CONTRACT, IT'S A LOT HARDER FOR THEM TO DO THE ANNUALIZED DOLLAR AMOUNT.

IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO DO, UH, LIKE A PERCENTAGE THAT THEY CAN JUST APPLY.

SO, UM, BUT I I'VE TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THERESA HAS TALKED TO HER COUNTERPART, MR. BO, AND, AND ROUGHLY A 1.2, 5% ADDITIONAL INCREASE FOR SCHOOL STAFF.

AND AGAIN, I'M PROPOSING IT BELOW THE LEVEL OF PRINCIPALS AND SENIOR STAFF WOULD BE ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO THE 750 ANNUALIZED

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AMOUNT, JUST DELIVERED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

AND SO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, THE, THE COST OF THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT OUR BUDGET IS CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH THAT IF NONE OF THESE BAD THINGS HAPPEN, I CAN REPORT TO YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO IS, UH, INSTEAD OF COMPETING OUR NEIGHBORS ON THE FRONT END, IT WOULD ALLOW OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE'D BE ABLE TO TELL OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE SCHOOL EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL AND YOU DO YOUR PART, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY OR ALMOST EVERYBODY HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR.

SO THIS IS NOT A ONE-TIME THING.

NO, IT WOULD BE ON, IT WOULD BE ONGOING.

IT WOULD JUST BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO ME VERIFYING THAT NONE OF THESE BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

WHAT WOULD OUR, BASICALLY OUR PAY INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES AND THE COUNTY BATES.

SO I'M SUGGESTING 750 ANNUALIZED AMOUNTS.

SO IF YOU WERE MAKING A $50,000 A YEAR TODAY, THE BASIC, UH, COMPENSATION INCREASE THAT IS IN THE BUDGET WAS 5% PLUS 1500.

SO, UH, YOU WOULD GO HELP ME WITH THE MATH, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD GO FROM 50,000 TO 54,000.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT 5% PLUS 1500.

SO IF YOU WERE THEN MAKING, SO YOU'RE MAKING 50 NOW IN JULY, YOU'D BE MAKING 54 AND THEN JANUARY YOU'D BE BAKING FIFTY FOUR, SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

SO IN TERMS OF THE RANGES, YOU'D BE MOVING THE RANGES ABOUT A PERCENT.

OKAY.

SO MR. MORGAN, YES.

UH, WHY WOULD NOT, WE NOT WANT TO ADD, AND LAST TIME WHEN WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET, I SUGGESTED INCREASING YOUR, UH, AND I CALLED IT A BONUS, YOU CALL IT A, HAVE ANOTHER TERM FOR IT.

UH, WHICH INCREASES THE, UH, DECREASES THE COMPRESSION KIND OF GIVES US A BIGGER INCREASE, UH, TO THAT MIDDLE, UH, COMPENSATION GROUP.

WHY WOULDN'T WE ADD THAT? UH, AND I SUGGESTED $2,000 RATHER THAN 1500.

WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE THIS TO SAY 2,204, LEAVE IT AT 2000 INSTEAD OF ADDING, UH, IF YOU TAKE SEVEN TO SEVEN, 50 AND $62 A PAYCHECK TO, UH, YOUR PAYCHECK.

SO YOUR QUESTION IS WHY DON'T I RECOMMEND A BIGGER INCREASE, CORRECT.

INSTEAD OF NO, A BIGGER INCREASE TO THE, YOU RECOMMENDED A $1,500, UH, I'M GOING TO CALL IT A BONUS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

IT'S NOT A BONUS THOUGH.

IT'S JUST CALCULATED, UH, AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT INSTEAD OF A PERCENTAGE.

SO WHY WOULDN'T WE ADD A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON HIGH INCREASE THAT, AND, UH, NOT DO THE SEVEN 50, WELL, THAT, WHY WOULDN'T WE INCREASE IT TO, UH, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO SAY $2,000.

SO, SO, SO MR. GREEN, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS A VERSION OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, ALL I'M SAYING IS SO THE 1500 A PLAZA FIRST, AND IN THE EVENT, WE CAN CERTIFY THAT WE'RE OKAY ON THE REVENUE SIDE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 750 WOULD BE ADDED ON JANUARY 1ST.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO SAY IT THAT WAY, IT WOULD GO FROM 1500 TO 22 5, BUT THAT SECOND INCREMENT DIDN'T KICK IN UNTIL HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR.

UH, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE CLARITY ON, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY.

SO IT IS, IT IS SOMEWHAT PURSUANT TO YOUR SUGGESTION, SLIGHTLY MORE CONSERVATIVE, AND IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PULL BACK IF YOU KNOW, BAD THINGS HAPPEN.

OKAY.

LET ME ALWAYS TRY TO GET IN YOUR HEAD ON THESE THINGS AT CHAT.

LET ME MAKE A COMMENT.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE GIVING A 5% RATES ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, EXCEPT FOR PRINCIPALS AND HIGHER SALARY, UH, INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT IT'S $1,500 ANNUALIZED OVER THE 12 MONTHS, RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF I, IF I'M MAKING $50,000 A YEAR, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M GOING TO GET A 5% RAISE.

AND FOR MY STATUS, MY $50,000, THAT 1500, WHETHER IT'S $1,500, WHETHER IT'S $2,000, WELL, ULTIMATELY TELL ME THAT I'M NOT GETTING

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A 5% RAISE.

I'M GETTING A FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT RAISE OR FIVE POINT 75%.

NOW, WHERE IS THIS? IT'S ALL DOWN TO WHAT IS MY RAISE? YOU KNOW, WHAT'D YOU TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A 5% RAISE AND THEN YOU GET THIS $5,000, HANG UP, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT BONUS HANGOVER.

I'M SAYING, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE EMPLOYEES WHO WAS AFFECTED BY THE 52,000 ARE NOT GETTING A 5% RAISE.

THEY'RE GETTING A 5.5 OR SIX.

SO THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND I, I, I THINK IN MY MARCH 15TH, UH, PRESENTATION, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN SOME DETAIL.

SO THE REASON TO DO IT THAT WAY IS THE STRAIGHT PERCENTAGE IS APPLIED TO YOUR GROSS SALARY, WHATEVER YOUR SALARY IS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN PERCENTAGE TERMS MEANS THAT PEOPLE IN THE LOWER HALF OF THE COMPENSATION SCALE GET A LARGER PERCENTAGE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR MEDIAN SALARY, I THINK IS 49,500.

SO LET'S SAY 50,000.

SO, UH, AT $50,000, UH, YOU WOULD BE GETTING AN 8% RAISE IN JULY AT $30,000.

YOU'D BE GETTING A 10% RATE AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YOU'D BE GETTING A 6.2% RAISE.

SO THESE NUMBERS, THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS BASED ON THE, SO THE, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ANNUALIZED AMOUNT, BUT, UM, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION.

THE DIFFERENCE IN A BONUS IS A BONUS DOES NOT CONTINUE IN YOUR SALARY.

IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARD YOUR RETIREMENT.

WHEREAS THE ANNUALIZED DOLLAR AMOUNT, IT'S JUST CALCULATING THE RAISE IN TWO PARTS, PAY AS COLONEL UP, EVERYBODY GETS A PERCENTAGE AND THEN YOU GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE LOWER YOUR PAY, THE BIGGER THE PERCENT.

AND SO WE'RE, I'M THE, UH, THE PAY ROLL SCALE DOES IT JUST EQUAL TO 5% AND NOT 5.1.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADMINISTRATOR RANKING PEOPLE.

SO THE RAISE, BUT NOT THE ANNUALIZED OR SO WHAT MY BUDGET RECOMMENDS IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE SCHOOL, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR WHAT EXACTLY THEIR COMPENSATION PACKAGE IS, BUT FOR THE CORE COMPENSATION PACKAGE IN THE BUDGET, I'M NOT LIMITING IT TO ANYBODY.

SO THE 5% PLUS $1,500 WOULD APPLY TO ALL THE WORKFORCE IN GOOD STANDING.

IT'S JUST THAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IS HIGHER AT THE LOW END, AS A PERCENTAGE OF SMALLER AT THE HIGH END, THE, THIS SUPPLEMENTAL IDEA THAT I'M SUGGESTING AND SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT IN.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO, TO HOLD, TO WITHHOLD THAT FROM THE HIGHEST PAID PEOPLE.

AND SO AT THE TOP OF THE $1,500 CENTRALIZED.

YEAH.

SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, BOARD APPOINTED OFFICIALS WOULD NOT GET THAT.

AND THE SCREEN PROXY FOR THAT SAME CATEGORY OF PEOPLE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPALS AND ABOVE.

OKAY.

SO YOU WANT US TO CHEW ON A, WELL, I WANT YOUR SUPPORT TO DO IT.

I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU JUST HEARD IT AND YOU SAID, IT'S GONNA BE AN IF THEN STATEMENT OF THESE THREE, THESE THREE CRITERIA ARE MET AND IT SUPPORTS THE DOLLAR BANK, NOT UNDER $50,000.

THEN WE CAN MAKE THOSE INCREASES.

IF NOT, THEN EITHER WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

OR WE DO A SUBSET OF WHAT, WHATEVER WE CAN.

AND WHAT I WOULD COME INTO IS, YOU KNOW, I'LL EITHER CERTIFY THAT WE CAN DO IT AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OR I'LL REPORT, HEY, THIS IS THE PROBLEM WE CAN'T, OR WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

OH, YOU HAVE AN ALGORITHM THAT YOU CAN USE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHO IS IT THAT SOMEBODY HAS WITH THE SOUND RELEASE FROM A TO Z, UH, HR HAS A LIST.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THE LIST THAT SAME LIST, SHOW ME THE $1,500, UH, ANNUALIZED AMOUNT AND THROW ON THE SEVEN 50 ON TOP OF THAT, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLKS THAT YOU RECOMMEND OVER HERE, THE PRINCIPALS.

SURE.

UM, TO SEE ME, LIKE, SEE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT PRESENTED TIES.

WELL, PERCENTAGE WISE AND DOLLAR WISE AND SCHOOL.

YEAH.

WE CAN DO IT FOR US, BUT THE SCHOOLS.

RIGHT.

SO, SO WHEN I TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT IT, I SAID, IF I, I KNOW HE'S A LITTLE CONCERNED, JAMES CITY WAYNESBURG OUT DOING THEM.

AND, UH, BUT HE WAS A, YOU KNOW, HE WAS LIVING WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED.

AND I SAID, IF, IF, UH, AND THEN I'M SEEING THESE, OUR NEIGHBORS ON THE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT SIDE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT IF

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I FOUND RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO THE BOARD, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND LIKE TREATMENT FOR THE SCHOOLS.

AND IT, WE CAN'T, IT'S NOT EXACTLY TRANSLATABLE BECAUSE ALL THE TEACHERS HAVE CONTRACTS, BUT ROUGHLY THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULDN'T MICROMANAGE HOW THEY DID IT, BUT THE GOOD FAITH COMMITMENT WE WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE BELOW.

AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN THERE.

IT'S AN EQUIVALENT TO, THEY MAY DECIDE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEIR CONTRACTS ARE AND HOW THEIR MONEY IS BUDGETED.

AND WHEN DOES THE STATE BUDGET REQUIRES THEM FOR THE, SOME INCREASES IN THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, THEY MAY DECIDE TO TWEAK HOW THEY APPLY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THEY HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE SPIRIT OF HOW WILL THIS AFFECT PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO HIRE NOW, ARE YOU RAISING THE SALARY? OR SO, UM, IT'S A CONCERN.

I MEAN, THE, THE GOOD, THE CORE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION ALLOWS US TO RAISE THE RANGES BASICALLY 8%.

AND, UM, SO, UH, THAT HELPS, BUT I MEAN, EVERYBODY AROUND HERE IS DOING THE SAME THING.

UM, AND SO BASICALLY WHAT I WOULD DO IS ESSENTIALLY THE, THE MORNING AFTER Y'ALL VOTE ON THE BUDGET, I WOULD, I WOULD TRY TO BE READY TO HAVE ALL OF OUR ADVERTISEMENTS AND EVERYTHING WITH THE NEW RANCHES.

OKAY.

SO I THINK I'M HEARING SUPPORT FOR THIS IDEA, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT AT LEAST WOLF, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD WANT THAT.

MAKE SURE IT'S SHOWING US THAT.

SHOULD WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF, UH, PART OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOUR NEXT MEETING IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, WHAT WE WOULD ENDEAVOR TO DO IS ROUND UP ANY ADJUSTMENTS, THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, PLUS ANYTHING ELSE, SEND YOU A MEMO IN ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN BEFORE WE START CALLING NAMES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD GIVE YOU A VERBAL UPDATE AS WELL.

SO YOU SAID YOU WERE MAKING ASSESSMENT IN THE FIRST QUARTER, THE, UH, AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF OUR FISCAL OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO W YOU KNOW, AROUND OCTOBER, BEGINNING OF THAT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO AUGUST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'VE DONE THE DATES, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

NOW, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE EQUIVALENT MINUTES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A DRAIN APPLICATION FOR EMERGENCY HALL WITH YOUR POST.

NUMBER THREE IS THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM, ANNUAL FUNDING.

WE KNOW FOR THE ENDORSEMENT OF FAIR HOUSING PRINCIPLES, FIVE BORDERLINE EASEMENT TO NEWPORT NEWS WATERWORKS IN CONNECTION WITH ENLARGEMENT OF THE YORKTOWN LIBRARY, BRANCH ITEM SIX, COMMENDATION OF A RETIRING EMPLOYEE.

IS THERE ANY ITEM THERE THAT ANYBODY WOULD CARE TO DISCUSS OR PULL? LET'S TALK ABOUT NUMBER FOUR, WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE FAIR HOUSING PRINCIPLES.

NUMBER FOUR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE, IF NOT, THEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS? WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A PROBLEM, BUT THE, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO THE BOARD, REAFFIRMING ITS ENDORSEMENT OF THE PRINCIPLES OF VIRGINIA FAIR HOUSING.

OKAY.

BUT THE MEMORANDUM TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, THE FAIR HOUSING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM THAT THE COUNTY ADOPTED BACK IN 1981, SOME OF THE LITTLE DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS REAFFIRMING VERSUS WHAT THE MEMORANDUM WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND I THINK THE, UM, THE FAIR HOUSING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM WAS SOME OF THE COUNTY SET UP IT'S WAY BEFORE MY TIME.

RIGHT? TALK ABOUT, UH, EDUCATION, UH, OF, UM, WHAT RIGHTS PEOPLE HAVE FOR ACCESS TO HOUSING.

AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE MEMORANDUM AND THE, AND THE RESOLUTION OR MY READING THIS WRONG.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY AROUND, THAT'S BEEN HERE A LONG ENOUGH TO, TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THAT HISTORY.

I WAS TELL

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YOU THE WAY I PROCESSED THIS IS WE HAVE HAD A RESOLUTION LIKE THIS EVERY YEAR AT THIS TIME OF YEAR.

UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE, UH, FRANKLY, A BOX TO BE CHECKED, TO POSITION US WELL FOR CDBG GRANTS, WHICH OUR HOUSING OFFICE DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN GETTING, AND, UH, OVER THE YEARS, THE LANGUAGE AND THE RESOLUTION HAS CHANGED AS YOU KNOW, HUD ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND LAWS HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

UH, I THINK THE MOST RECENT CHANGE WAS ADDING ANOTHER CLASS OF PEOPLE.

UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF MY BROAD UNDERSTANDING IT'S TO GET US IN THE GAME TO GET AS MUCH GRANT MONEY AS POSSIBLE.

UH, AND BRIAN, I THINK THE MEMOS JUST KIND OF A HISTORICAL THING IS WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1981.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE MADE CHANGES AS, AS WE GO THROUGH.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF THE MEMOS.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE GET A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM, UH, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR HOUSING KARTRA GARDENS PROJECT, UH, ALL OF OUR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAMS, THERE'S OTHER $2 MILLION THERE.

WE GOT ABOUT 1.6 JUST FOR YOUR COUNTY BUSINESSES, UH, WITH, THROUGH COVID RELIEF TO GIVE OUT TO SMALL BUSINESSES, ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL RULES TO DO THAT.

SO THE VERBIAGE IS CHANGING WITH THE PROTECTED CLASSES THAT WAS CHANGED TWO YEARS AGO.

UM, SO THAT'S THAT THE CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS, UH, WERE THEY FEDERAL DRIVEN OR WHERE THEY STATE? CAUSE I READ SOMETHING TODAY.

I THINK IT WAS, UH, THE LAST TWO SESSIONS OF OUR JOURNAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

THEY HEADED, UH, SEVERAL CLASSES OF PEOPLE TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT THEY WERE MAYBE, UH, YEAH, IF I MAY ADDRESS IT, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE MEMORANDUM, EXCUSE ME, THE RESOLUTION, UM, IS DRAWN FROM THE LANGUAGE THAT ACTUALLY, I HAVE NOT TRIED TO TRACE IT IN FEDERAL STATUTES, BUT, BUT IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY LAST YEAR IN SPECIAL SESSION NUMBER ONE.

AND IT'S NOW CODIFIED IN, UM, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CODIFIED IN CODE SECTION 36 DASH 96.1, BUT THAT, THAT SECTION WAS AMENDED TO ADD A COUPLE OF, UM, CATEGORIES OF INDIVIDUALS, UM, JUST LAST YEAR.

SO THIS LANGUAGE UPDATES OUR POLICY TO MATCH THE STATE'S OWN DECLARED POLICY OF FAIR HOUSING.

AND WHAT WERE THOSE CLASSES THAT WERE ADDED? WELL, I, I, I ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T MAKE A LIST OF ALL THE CHANGES.

I KNOW, I BELIEVE MILITARY STATUS MAY HAVE AN ADDED, UH, SOURCE OF FUNDS I THINK WAS ADDED.

UM, UH, MR. RON HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT, UM, SOURCE OF FUNDS BY THE WAY, HAS TO DO WITH, UH, LAWFUL GRANTS AND PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH, UH, MILITARY STATUS.

UM, THERE IS A SEPARATE DEFINITION OF THAT IN THE NEXT STATUTE.

UM, THAT GOES ON IT'S, UH, IT'S UM, SOME SHORT LENGTH AS TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THOSE, THOSE WERE ADDED.

THERE WAS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF GENDER.

I WILL READ THE WHOLE THING.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN YOUR RESOLUTION, BUT IT IS THE POLICY OF THE COMMONWEALTH TO PROVIDE FOR FAIR HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH, TO ALL ITS CITIZENS, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, SEX, ELDERLY NESS, IT'S A FAIRLY REASONABLE, I THINK FAMILIAL STATUS SOURCE OF FUNDS, SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A FAIRLY NEW ONE, GENDER IDENTITY, MILITARY STATUS OR DISABILITY.

AND TO THAT INTO PROHIBIT DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND THE REST OF THE LANGUAGES IS IN YOUR RESOLUTION.

SO HOW THEY DEFINE GENDER STATUS? I MEAN, NOW LET ME SEE IF THERE IS A DEFINITION OF IT.

ARE THERE ARE TWO GENDERS, RIGHT? MALE, FEMALE, OR IS THAT, UH, THE DEFINITIONS? I DON'T SEE A PARTICULAR DEFINITION FOR GENDER STATUS.

THEY DO FOR THE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ADDED GENDER STATUS, I WOULD HAVE TO TRACK IT THROUGH TO SEE IF THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE MOST CURRENT EDITION.

I CAN LOOK IT UP FAIRLY QUICKLY ACTUALLY.

UM, I DON'T, I, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS ADDED JUST LAST YEAR OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN EARLIER THAT LET US DO THE LAST YEAR WITH ONE BEFORE.

UH, WELL, I WILL WAIT 20.

SO I THINK, UH, HEATHER, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS RESOLUTION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ONE LAST YEAR.

I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

SOMETHING CHANGED LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

YES.

SO WHATEVER THOSE LANGUAGE CHANGES WERE, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.

OKAY.

SO, SO THIS PUTS THE HOUR FAIR HOUSING, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM IN

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SYNC WITH STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT'S REALLY OTHER THAN, UH, WHEN ANYBODY COMES IN TO, YOU KNOW, SEEKING ASSISTANCE FROM OUR HOUSING OFFICE.

WHEN WE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, MY LANDLORD, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T CONSIDER ME BECAUSE WE WOULD LEAVE US, WE WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO INVESTIGATE, BUT THE BROADER THING IS, UH, KEEP IT IN GOOD GRACES OF THE, OF THE GRANTING AGENCIES FOR THIS FUND, WITH THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE GET THE FEDERAL, THE FEDERAL, FEDERAL MONEY TO STAY IN HOUSING HANDLES THE MONEY, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THIS FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.

OKAY.

BUT THE MONEY IS GOING TO GET THE MONEY.

WE'LL GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY EACH YEAR.

UH, THE MONEY FOR THIS, FOR THAT PROGRAM, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. YES.

THE REASON I RAISED THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

IT GOES BACK TO THE HEARINGS THAT SOME OF US HAD BEEN LISTENING TO OR WATCHING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS RELATIVE TO THE NOMINEE FOR THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, SHE WAS ASKED THE QUESTION, ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU PLEASE DEFINE WHAT A WOMAN IS? SHE COULDN'T, SHE COULD NOT DEFINE THEM.

SHE WOULD NOT DEFINE YOU.

OKAY.

SO THIS ENTRY HERE, WHAT PEAKED MY INTEREST WAS THE NOTION THAT THEY HAD TO INCLUDE GENDER.

UH, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TWO GENDERS OR 87 GENDERS? UH, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THIS PIECE, THIS LEGISLATION, ALL RIGHT.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE, IF IN FACT, THE DEFINITION OF GENDER WAS AS OBSCENE AS WE'D BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THIS NOMINATION PROCESS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO AGREE WITH THAT.

IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR MORALS IT'S SEPARATING AND GO AGAIN.

AND WHAT I'M POINTING AT IS THE STAFF.

THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THINGS, FLAG.

IF, IF, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING COMES TO YOUR ATTENTION SUCH AS GENDER JIMMY, DID YOU FIND ANYTHING AT ALL? IT WAS ADDED 2020, UM, WITH, OR WITHOUT DEFINITION HOUSE BILL 10 49.

YEAH.

NO DEFINITION.

SO, UH, I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE.

IT IS NOT IN THE FOLLOWING SECTION, WHICH HAS DEFINITIONS.

LET ME LOOK, CAUSE I DON'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW.

YES.

OKAY.

I WILL HAVE SEEN FROM VOTING ON THAT.

I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING BEHIND IT.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO WE'LL CALL PLACE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA, MR. GREEN, MR. RYAN.

YES.

MR. SHEPHERD.

MRS. NOLE.

YES.

MOTION CARRIED.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW

[OPEN DISCUSSION]

COME TO OPEN DISCUSSION.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER TOPIC THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ONE LAST THING? I THINK I RAISED THIS WITH THE LAST MEDIA WHERE HAVE YOU WHAT'S BOTHERED THE HELL OUT OF ME IS, UH, BUILD BACK BETTER.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE ZILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAD JUST BEEN THROWN AT THE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME SHARE OF THAT.

UH, UH, HAVE YOU EVER PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, UH, WHAT WE GOT AND HOW WE SPENT THAT MONEY OR HOW WE'RE PROGRAMMED TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND HOW MUCH OF THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW WE SPEND IT IS A LOAN.

IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE COFFERS.

LOOK, WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU, YEAH.

SO, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LABEL IS.

I MEAN, WHAT WE HAVE GONE OVER IN GREAT DETAIL WITH THE BOARD AND YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION ON HOW TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY IS WHAT I THINK OF AS THE ARBA FUNDS.

YOU KNOW, FIRST WE HAVE THE CARES ACT FUNDS, THEN WE HAVE THE ARPA FUNDS, UH, AND RECALL THAT THAT'S, UM, JUST UNDER $13 MILLION, WE RECEIVED THE FIRST TRAUNCH, UH, IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.

WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE THE SECOND TRAUNCH IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS ON THAT AND WE ALL HAVE, UH, PRETTY MUCH AGREED HOW TO ALLOCATE ALL.

WE GOT ABOUT A $900,000 ON ALLOCATED THAT WE SAID WE WOULD JUST, UH, RETAIN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS A CONTINGENCY OR, OR, YEAH, IN THE MEANTIME, THAT'S PART OF OUR RESERVE, UH, RECALL WE HAD SOME SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS WE PUT IN THE CIP, WE PUT 2 MILLION TOWARD THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING.

UH, WE, WE HAVE SOME MONEY PROGRAMMED IN THE OUT YEARS FOR SOME, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION AND PROJECTS,

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SOME FOR SCHOOL SPORTS FACILITIES.

UH, WE DID, UH, THE DARK FIBER EXPANSION PROJECT IN THE NORTH COUNTY WITH 1.5.

UM, SO YEAH, ON THAT MONEY, WHICH ACTUALLY KA IS AN, IS, HAS AN, IS COMING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I FEEL LIKE THIS BOARD'S RECEIVED A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION.

UH, WE DO PLAN TO HAVE ADDITIONAL UPDATES.

FOR EXAMPLE, ALMOST MENTIONED IT TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS GETTING LONG RECALL THAT YOU ALL LIKED THE IDEA OF GIVING THE, THE CITIZENS GRANT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 ALLOCATION FOR ONE-TIME CAPITAL GRANTS TO THOSE SAME AGENCIES AND WALDEN BRIEF YOU ON THAT TONIGHT.

BUT HIS COMMITTEE'S WORKING ON THAT.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT THAT THROUGH THERESA'S TEAM WHEN, WHEN GREG CONNECTS THIS NEXT UPDATE.

SO I GET A LITTLE CONFUSING AND YOU MAY ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHICH, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO CAN TELL ME WHICH ONE'S CALLED BILL BACK BED, OR I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE BETTER AS ABOUT PATHS.

SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT, CAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT DIDN'T EVEN THAT WASN'T THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ONE WAS CALLED.

IT HAD A NAME, BUT SO THERE IS, UH, THERE IS A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS WE'LL GO TO CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT ANY OF THAT IS COMING DIRECTLY TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, I HAVE BEEN IN A COUPLE OF HIGH-LEVEL BRIEFINGS ON IT WITH, UH, PDC AND THE TPO.

UM, MUCH OF IT IS GOING TO FLOW THROUGH EXISTING, UH, TRANSPORTATION FORMULAS.

SO THINGS LIKE, UH, FEDERAL GRANTS FOR, UH, PROJECTS AND SIDEWALK, PROJECTS AND DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I SUSPECT IN TIME WE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THAT MONEY IS DIRECTLY TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

YOU KNOW? WELL, MY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE USED BUILD BACK BETTER, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR ME PAYING FOR EVERY DOLLAR, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, WHATEVER CATEGORIES LIKE THAT HAS COME DOWN THROUGH THE SYSTEMS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.

OKAY.

UM, AND LET'S CALL IT X, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DUPLICATE IN OUR BUDGET, THE BUDGET BASED ON TAXPAYER TECH TAX FAIR TECH, REAL ESTATE TAXES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THIS MANNA FROM HEAVEN.

AND I KNOW IT'S GOTTA BE A TOWN FOR, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BUT I KNOW WE GAVE BONUSES TO OUR HEROES, TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY EARLY ON.

ALL RIGHT.

YEP.

AND I, OF COURSE, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WAS THAT ALL WE DID WITH THE MONEY THAT FLOWED TO THE EMPLOYEES WAS IT SIMPLY THE THE BONUS DOLLARS OR ANY OTHER DOLLARS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, THAT FIRST STAUNCH AS YOU LIKE TO CALL IT.

UH, AND ARE WE DUPLICATING ANY OF THAT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT PAY RAISES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE $1,500 ACTUALIZE, UH, PART OF IT.

AND WE KNOW THERE WERE WITH THE BONUSES, WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING 14% PAY RAISES AND WE'LL FIGHT WELL.

YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG TOPIC AND WE'VE PROVIDED A LOT OF REPORTS PREVIOUSLY.

SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST, UH, ROUND OF THAT MONEY, THE CARES ACT MONEY.

SOME OF THAT WENT FOR, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY BONUSES, ESPECIALLY, AND, UH, IN THE SECOND ROUND, THE ARPA MONEY THAT, WHICH I WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT IN IT, WE DID HAVE ONE ROUND OF BONUSES LAST FALL, UH, FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

AND WE HAD A, A, UH, SOMEBODY REMEMBER THERE WAS A HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND A LESSER DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WAS A $3,000 FOR FOLKS.

I PUT 1500 NOW THAT WAS NOT PERMANENT SALARY.

THAT WAS ONE TIME THAT WAS THE STATE PAID FOR PART OF THAT FOR THIS RIGHT.

IT WAS TRIGGERED WHEN THE STATE GAVE US, UH, THE ECOMM BOARD AUTHORIZED SHERIFF'S POSITIONS ABOUT US, AND WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, COVER THE OTHER 50%.

UM, SO, UH, YEAH, WE, BUT THERE'S NONE OF THAT GOING FORWARD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS BOARD VERY WISELY HAS PUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS TYPE TOWARDS ONE-TIME CAPITAL THINGS.

UH, AND, UM, SO, AND I AM, I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PAY BACK A PENNY.

WE FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES, WE'RE DOING ALL THE REPORTING.

UM, AND,

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UH, THIS LAST, SOME THAT WE'LL RECEIVE THIS SPRING, YOU ALL PRETTY MUCH ALREADY COMMITTED IT, EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT.

AND THEN THAT'S HISTORY IT'S DONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT, MY QUESTION WAS, CHAD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST, UH, MY HEART'S BEEN HEAVY.

UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, UH, THERE WAS A DAILY PRESS REPORTER WHO, UH, COVERED AIRPORT.

UH, I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH PAST FALL BY THE NAME OF SIERRA JENKINS.

UH, SHE WAS A WONDERFUL YOUNG REPORTER.

UH, SHE ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

SHE WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE STORY.

UH, SHE WAS ONE OF THOSE FEW REPORTERS THAT REALLY CARED ABOUT THE STORY AND CARED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE STORY AND, UH, WAS, UH, JUST A DELIGHTFUL TO SPEAK WITH.

UH, SHE ALWAYS WOULD CHALLENGE ME WITH, UH, QUESTIONS AND, UH, SHE WAS JUST A VERY YOUNG PROMISING REPORTER.

UH, HER LIFE WAS CUT SHORT.

UH, SHE WAS OUT WITH SOME FRIENDS ON GRANBY STREET AND, UH, SHE WAS THE VICTIM OF, UH, UH, SOME, SOME VIOLENCE, UH, GENTLEMEN, UH, WAS UPSET THAT, UH, SOMEONE SPILLED A DRINK AND, UH, PULLED OUT A GUN AND, UH, STARTED SHOOTING.

AND UNFORTUNATELY SHE WAS CAUGHT IN THE CROSS, UH, FIRE, UH, I, MY, TO HER FAMILY, UH, I WISH HER FAMILY, A PEACE AND, UH, CONDOLENCES AND THIS TIME.

AND, UH, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WE MUST, UH, COME TOGETHER AND STOP, UH, SENSELESS VIOLENCE.

SO, UH, JUST, UH, A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY AND A LIFE LOSS, UH, SENSELESSLY AND A WAY TOO EARLY THAT'S IF TWO THINGS, ONE MS. CAROL FAIRER, HOLD ON SAYING HER NAME RIGHT FROM THE GALLERY HERE, YOUR CALL OUT TO ME AND SAYING THAT THEY NEED HELP WITH VOLUNTEER WORKERS.

AND I THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD MENTION THAT I'M HERE DOING THIS MEETING.

UM, SO, UM, SHE'S GOING TO SEND ME SOME INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET INVOLVED, BUT IT EASILY JUST WALKED DOWN HERE TO THE GALLERIES, ANYBODY INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, THEY CAN USE SOME HELP THERE.

SECOND THING.

UM, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, UM, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MAINLY ALONG THE LINES OF WEATHER RELATED EMERGENCIES.

AND I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS SOME VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLANS TO DEAL WITH EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, BUT HOW OFTEN DO WE EXERCISES? DO WE WALK THROUGH THOSE? HOW DO WE COORDINATE WITH, WITH REGIONAL EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS THEMA? MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER HEARD.

UM, SO, UH, MAYBE I SHOULD PROVIDE YOU SOME WRITTEN INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, THERE'S A VARIETY OF STRUCTURED, UM, EXERCISES THAT OCCUR.

THE ONE THAT OCCURS AT LEAST ANNUALLY IS, UH, RELATED TO A POTENTIAL PROBLEM AT SURGERY.

SO THE WHOLE REGION, UH, HAS A SIMULATED, UH, NUCLEAR DISASTER.

AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THAT IS THE SAME STUFF YOU WOULD DO TO ORGANIZE FOR ANY OTHER TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, MASS CASUALTY EVENT.

AND SO, UH, ALL THE ESCS ACTIVATED, UH, VDM IN THE STATE ARE PLUGGED IN.

AND MANY OF US PARTICIPATE IN THAT ALSO FROM TIME TO TIME, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DRILLS, MORE RELATED TO WEATHER RELATED EMERGENCIES.

AND THOSE AREN'T DON'T OCCUR ON A, ANY PARTICULAR SCHEDULE.

SOMETIMES THEY DO THEM JUST FOR THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON IS UPDATING OUR SHELTERING PLAN WITH, UM, UH, BRYAN FULLER IS IN THE LEAD ON THAT, ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, MARGARET, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF TRANSITIONING TO SOCIAL SERVICES, BEING A LEAD ON SHELTERING.

SO IF I COULD TO GIVE YOU A REAL COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER, I THINK I NEED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE REPORT ON THAT AND WHAT TRIGGERED IT IS.

I WAS DRIVING ONE OF THE BACK ROADS HERE, AND I SAW THAT BIG, UH, TRACTOR TRAILER TRACTOR THAT, UH, SHOWERS ON WHEELS.

AND, UM, GOT ME THINKING, WELL, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SMALL PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT THAT KIND OF TRIGGERED IT? IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO SAY THAT DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS, A LOT OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ENERGY HAS KIND OF, UH, WHEN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.

AND WE WERE LIKE, THANK GOD.

WE HAD NO MAJOR HURRICANE DURING I POPPED UP ON THE SAME THING.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE PAST THAT NOW.

AND THEN WHAT IF THE NEXT, THE NEXT THING, SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT WITH, WE WENT THROUGH SHEILA, IF YOU REMEMBER THE COUNTY AND THE REGION WENT THROUGH, I THINK IT WAS TIED TO ISABELLE, BUT WE WENT THROUGH, WAIT, THE REST OF REHEARSALS, I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

SHE'LL PROBABLY, UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO

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DO IT AGAIN.

YEAH.

THERE'S OTHERS THAT OCCUR, HAMPTON, RUT, HAMPTON ROADS WIDE THROUGH THIS URC FUNDING.

UH, THEY OCCUR ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND SOME INVOLVE JUST A FEW PLANNERS AND SOME INVOLVE LARGE NUMBERS.

WE'LL GET TO SOME, OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THE HAMPTON ROADS PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION HAS A WHOLE EMERGENCY PLAN LIKE TOM, DO YOU HAVE, YEAH, JUST A REAL QUICK, UH, I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GET THIS PANDEMIC BEHIND US.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE WE ARE IN IT.

BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE IF YOU GO OUT THERE, I THINK WE'VE JUST KIND OF, EVERYBODY'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING INTO STORES NOW.

THERE'S FEWER PEOPLE WHERE IN MASS WE'RE GATHERING, THINGS ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL.

UM, BUT I THINK MOST OF US UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET.

AND, UH, I THINK I HEARD SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID THAT WE STILL HAVE ABOUT SIX TO 700 PEOPLE A DAY DYING IN THE UNITED STATES FROM, FROM, UH, UH COVID.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU BE CAREFUL, STILL COMMON SENSE, WASH YOUR HANDS, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, IF YOU'RE SICK, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM EVERYBODY YET.

THE BEST THING I THINK YOU CAN DO, I DID GET MY, UH, MY, UH, BOOSTER BOOSTER, IF YOU WILL.

SO I'M NOW HAD MY FOURTH SHOT ARM SORE, BUT, UH, YOU GET, THOSE ARE EASY.

GO TO THE, UH, I GOT MINE AT, UH, AT THE PHARMACY.

AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE EASY TO GET.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR INDIVIDUAL'S CHOICE, BUT BE SMART ABOUT IT.

AND, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN, UH, I THINK SUMMER WILL PROBABLY BE GOOD, BUT IT'S WHEN WE COME OUT OF THE SUMMER, WE'RE GETTING INTO WINTER THINGS, GET A LITTLE SQUIRRELY, UM, SOMETHING I DID NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL THE DAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES FOLKS HAVE, UH, NOW START THINKING ABOUT PASSPORTS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND SO YOU DID GET A PASSPORT.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS OF GETTING THEM, AND THEY'RE NOT TOO COMPLICATED, BUT I FOUND THE DAY THAT THE GRAFT AND POST OFFICE, AS PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE CERTIFIED TO PROCESS EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE PICTURE.

SO YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AND YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

YOU CAN GO THERE AND GET YOUR, UH, GET YOUR PHOTOGRAPH.

THERE IS A FORM THAT YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT.

AND, UH, I SUGGEST YOU GO TO THE POST OFFICE AND GET THAT BEFOREHAND, TAKE IT HOME, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOT A CHECKLIST.

AND WHETHER YOU HAVE, IF YOU QUALIFIED TO DO, UH, GIVE YOU, GET IT THIS WAY, AND THEN, UH, JUST GO DOWN HERE AND THEY'LL WILL HELP THE PROCESS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHECK, THE MAIL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S 135 BUCKS NOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESSING FEE THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT YOU GET ALL DONE IN ONE PLACE AND IT MAILED OFF.

AND IT'S, UH, AND NOW IF YOU HAVE A PASSPORT, I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE 15 YEARS OLD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THE LONG WAY.

OKAY.

AND IT MAY EVEN BE A SHORTER PERIOD.

I THINK SHE MENTIONED THE DAY THAT IF YOU, IF YOUR PASSPORT'S OVER FIVE YEARS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE, YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT, THE REGULAR FULL OF DRILL.

YOU BRING YOUR OLD PASSPORT WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO DOWN THERE.

SO IT CHECK THE PASSPORT AND THE FORM YOU GO DOWN AND YOU'LL BE READY TO GO AND THEY'LL SEND IT OFF AND YOU GET IT BACK PRETTY QUICK.

THAT'S IT? YEAH.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THAT DO IT AND SOME DON'T.

SO I JUST, I JUST FOUND OUT THAT OURS, THAT ONE DOES EVERYTHING.

NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE A PASSPORT.

I MIGHT GO, I MAY GO OVER AND HELP THE UKRAINIANS, WHO KNOWS, BUT YOU NEVER, YOU NEVER CAN TELL ME, I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT A LITTLE BIT.

THEN TALK ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL THE COUNTY HAS BEEN RECENTLY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE DAFFODILS AND SPRING IS COMING IN THE TREES.

AND I'VE SEEN THE CREWS OUT WORKING AND CLEANING UP.

AND IT'S JUST GREAT.

THE OTHER DAY I WAS WALKING OUT OF THE LIBRARY AND THIS WOMAN WAS JUST STANDING, LOOKING AT THE FLOWERS IN THE FLOWER BED AT THE TAP LIBRARY.

AND SHE SAID, AREN'T THEY BEAUTIFUL? AND I THOUGHT, YES, YES, THEY'VE DONE AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL JOB AT THE TAB LIBRARY WITH THE PLANTING.

AND I GUESS I HAVE TO THANK ASHLEY AND HER CREW AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THERE.

THEY TRIMMED THE TREES.

THEY'VE PLANTED BULBS, AND YOU CAN WATCH THE PROGRESSION AS YOU CAN WATCH THE, FROM THE DAFFODILS TO THE TULIPS, TO THE, UH, WHATEVER THEY ARE.

ANYWAY, TAKE A LOOK, LOOK AROUND AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE COUNTY AND JUST LOOK HOW MANICURES IT LOOKS, HOW CLEAN IT LOOKS AND HOW CLEAN IT LOOKS.

OH, IT'S REALLY IS WONDERFUL.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS ANY PART WHATSOEVER IN BEAUTIFYING THE COUNTY.

AND WITH

[CLOSED MEETING.]

THAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION AND ACCORDANCE WITH

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SECTION 2.2 DASH 37, 11 81, OR THE CODE OF VIRGINIA MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENED AND CLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

MR. SHEPHERD, MR. .

YES.

MR. GREEN.

YES.

YES.

THIS IS NO.

YES, NO.

THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

UM, BUT WE WILL ADJOURN IT OUT.

WHEN WE COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, THE NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE TUESDAY, APRIL 19TH, AND THERE'LL BE UPSTAIRS IN THE BOARDROOM.

THANK YOU ALL.