Feb 15, 2022 Board of Supervisors

ON BEHALF OF ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.

THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK AND FOR THE HONOR OF BEARING APPROPRIATE RESPONSIBILITIES, OUR PRAY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND ALL THOSE ASSEMBLED HERE THIS EVENING, AND FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY AND OF THIS GREAT NATION AND FOR ALL WHO DWELL IN YOUR CREATION AND FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD, I ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THEM IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS ON THE AGENDA SET BEFORE THEM TODAY AND GRANT THEM WISDOM TO GOVERN AMID THE CONFLICTING INTERESTS AND ISSUES OF OUR TIMES.

A SENSE OF THE WELFARE AND TRUE NUDES NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.

A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTNESS CONFIDENCE IN WHAT IS GOOD AND FITTING THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY.

EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT, PERSONAL PEACE IN THEIR LIVES AND JOY IN THEIR TASK AND IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY ON THAT.

PLEASE STAND UP AND MOVE ALL HEAD COVERINGS TASTES FLAG I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

PRESENTATION TONIGHT WILL BE FROM AMBER, AMBER RICHIE, THE HEADSTART PROGRAM AT CHILDREN, FAMILY SERVICES MANAGER.

OUR FIRST

[A Head Start Program. Receive presentation from Amber Richey, Community Services]

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, AMBER.

GOOD EVENING.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MR. BARNETT, AND MR. MORGAN.

I AM AMBER RICHIE YOU'RE COUNTY'S CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES MANAGER.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME, TO COME BEFORE YOU TO SHARE SOME UPDATES ABOUT OUR HEADSTART PROGRAM.

I WILL BE SHARING SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AS WELL AS SOME MILESTONES AND ACHIEVEMENTS FROM THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES.

BUT FIRST, BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THEIR ONGOING SUPPORT OF THE HEADSTART PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY MR. ROME.

SO WITH THE HEADSTART PROGRAM, CURRENTLY, WE ARE CONTINUING TO SERVE CHILDREN THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE HEADSTART PROGRAM.

UM, OUR FAMILIES, THEY DO RESIDE IN THE COUNTY OF YORK.

WE SERVE CHILDREN BETWEEN THE AGES OF THREE TO FIVE.

OUR TARGET POPULATION ARE AT RISK, LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY, UM, CHILDREN THAT ARE HOMELESS THAT ARE ENCOUNTERING HOMELESSNESS, DIAGNOSED DISABILITIES, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR FAMILIES DO RECEIVE, UM, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE ON THAT SLIDE.

IT IS, IT DOES LIST THE POVERTY GUIDELINES FOR THIS YEAR WITH OUR PROGRAM, WE ARE CURRENTLY A LITTLE UNDER ENROLLED.

OUR FUNDED ENROLLMENT IS 117.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 89 CHILDREN THAT WE CURRENTLY SERVE.

UM, WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING, WE DO HAVE A POSSIBLY 14 EDUCATION STAFF, 11 NON-EDUCATION STAFF.

AND WE DO HAVE VACANCIES FOR TEACHER ASSISTANT POSITIONS AS WELL AS COOKS AND A CURRENT TEACHER VACANCY THAT WE ARE WORKING TO FEEL.

THIS SLIDE LISTS OUR CURRENT DEMOGRAPHICS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR HIGHEST POPULATION IS OUR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

AGAIN, WE DO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 FAMILIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENCOUNTERING HOMELESSNESS, AND WE HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES THAT ARE OVER INCOME.

AGAIN.

TOTAL ENROLLMENT CURRENTLY IS 89.

WE HAVE 89 CHILDREN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SERVING, BUT WE ARE WORKING TO BRING IN ANOTHER COHORT OF CHILDREN ON MARCH 28TH TO FEEL CURRENT ENROLLMENT VACANCIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, AND WE HAVE A SMALLEST PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED, UM,

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AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN A TRAINING PROGRAM.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO REPORT SOME OF OUR MILESTONES THIS YEAR.

UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN REALLY TOUGH IN REFERENCE UP, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WERE ENCOUNTERING COVID 19, BUT THIS YEAR WE HAVE CONTINUED TO PRESS ON.

WE HAVE CONTINUED TO JUST HIT THE GROUND ROLLING IN REFERENCE TO ENSURING THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR YORK COUNTY, YOUNG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER EXTENDED CARE PROGRAM.

IT IS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MANY FAMILIES, UM, ENCOUNTERED UNEMPLOYMENT DUE TO COVID 19, AND WE WANTED TO GET THEM BACK TO WORK.

SO WE ARE HOPEFUL AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OFFERING EXTENDED CARE SERVICES FOR THE COMING YEAR, AS WELL AS A PART OF THAT, WE ARE NOW A APPROVED AND APPROVED SUBSIDY VENDOR.

WE UTILIZE OPERA FUNDS THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF TRAUMA, AS WELL AS OUR FAMILIES AND STAFF AS WELL.

AND SO WE USED FUNDS TO EXPAND OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE HIRED A MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST TO COME IN, TO COME ON STAFF, TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH US.

AS WE MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

THIS YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER OUR SUMMER SCREENING FAIR AGAIN, AS WELL AS A SUMMER TRANSITION PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO OFFERING THAT AGAIN, THIS COMING YEAR, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEIR CHILDREN DO ENCOUNTER SOME SUMMER LEARNING LOSS.

AND SO TO ASSIST CHILDREN IN SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITIONING INTO OUR PROGRAM, AS WELL AS OUT OF OUR PROGRAM, AS THEY ENTER KINDERGARTEN, WE FOUND THAT THE SUMMER TRANSITION PROGRAM WAS A SUCCESS AND WE WILL BE DOING THAT AS WELL.

WE HAVE DEVELOPED A COVID-19 DASHBOARD SO THAT WE CAN TRACK, UM, POSITIVE CASES OF COVID AS WELL AS GATHERED DATA REGARDING CHILDREN AND STAFF THAT HAS HAD, HAVE NEEDED TO QUARANTINE TO ASSIST US.

AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR OUR PROGRAM THIS YEAR, WE EXTENDED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LOCAL FOOD BANK TO OFFER A FRESH MARKET.

AND SO OUR FAMILIES WERE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED TO RECEIVE FRESH PRODUCE.

UM, AND THAT WAS SPONSORED BY THE FOOD BANK AS WELL AS VIA UNITED METHODISTS GAVE US A GENEROUS DONATION OF CLOTHES, FOODS, AND TOILETRY ITEMS FOR OUR FAMILIES.

SO THOSE WERE JUST A FEW ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD.

UM, SEVERAL SLIDES AGO, I DID SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE STAFFING VACANCIES.

AND SO THE COVID-19 DID TAKE A TOLL ON OUR STAFF.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FILLING THOSE CURRENT VACANCIES.

UM, WE JUST WERE APPROVED FOR CAREER PROGRESSION, SO WE ARE DEFINITELY HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FEEL THAT IN THE WEEKS AHEAD.

UM, IN ADDITION, ANOTHER CHALLENGE WAS COVID-19 VACCINATION AND MASS REQUIREMENT.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS HANDED DOWN BY THE OFFICE OF HEAD START THAT WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, IMPLEMENTING.

AND SO MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE JUST CHALLENGED IN TRYING TO KEEP THAT UP BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF HEADSTART IS REQUIRING THAT ALL STAFF, UM, COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND VOLUNTEERS, UM, THAT THEY ARE VACCINATED.

AND SO THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT A CHALLENGE FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AS WELL AS MEANINGFUL ENROLLMENT.

I MENTIONED THAT WE WERE, UM, WE DID NOT MEET OUR FUNDED ENROLLMENT.

WE DO HAVE SOME ENROLLMENT VACANCIES, BUT AS, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS CHANGING AS WE'RE BEEFING UP OUR STRATEGIES FOR RECRUITING FAMILIES, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET OUR FULL ENROLLMENT AND THE, FOR THE COMING SCHOOL YEAR, UM, WITH THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF CHANGES TO OUR PROGRAM, UM, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AS A RESULT OF COVID.

AND SO WE DID BENEFIT FROM OUR PRA FUNDS AND COVID FUNDS.

AND SO WE PUT MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO SAFEGUARD THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, OUR FAMILIES.

AND SO THOSE FUNDS WERE VERY USEFUL IN THAT REGARD.

AND SO IT IS UNCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL BE RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS IN THE YEAR AHEAD.

SO IT WAS JUST UP TO US TO KIND OF LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND OUR STAFF.

AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION FOR THE HEADSTART PROGRAM.

AND SO IN NEXT MONTH, YOU'LL BE RECEIVING INFORMATION ON REGARD TO OUR GRANT APPLICATION AND WHAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE YEAR AHEAD.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH, I, ONE QUESTION, UM, HOW DO YOU REACH OUT AND MARKET YOUR PROGRAM? UH, YOU'VE GOT 20 OR SO VACANCY FOR, FOR, UH, MORE STUDENTS.

SO HOW WOULD YOU BE, HOW WOULD YOU REACH ME REGARDLESS OF WHERE I LIVED ON THE, ON THE PENINSULA OR IN YOUR COUNTY? UM, WE DO DEVELOP A RECRUITMENT PLAN EVERY YEAR.

AND AS A PART OF THAT RECRUITMENT PLAN, WE OUTLINED STRATEGIES AND REFERENCE TO HOW WE

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ARE GOING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, INCLUDED, UM, OUR STEPS, WHERE WE WORK WITH LOCAL, UM, PHYSICIAN'S OFFICES, LOCAL CLINICS, WIC AGENCIES.

UM, ONE GREAT THING ABOUT YOUR COUNTY IS WE HAVE A GREAT PARK WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND SO WE PARTNERED TOGETHER IN REFERENCE TO PUTTING OUT OR, UM, CARRYING OUT OUR RECRUITMENT PLAN.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, THE BEST THINGS ABOUT, UM, YOUR COUNTY IS IT IS A SMALLER COMMUNITY.

AND SO WORD OF MOUTH IS OUR BEST STRATEGY.

AND SO WE UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE DO PROVIDE PARENTS WITH COPIES OF OUR FLYERS AND ENCOURAGE THEM IF THEY KNOW ANYONE THAT MAY BENEFIT FROM OUR PROGRAM TO PLEASE CONTACT US.

WHAT IF ONE OF YOUR SLIDES MENTIONED THAT, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT YOUR COUNTY HAS A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN POVERTY CATEGORY.

HOW DO YOU FIND THAT OUT? HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT? YES.

SO EACH YEAR WE DO CONDUCT A COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT.

AND SO WE GATHER INFORMATION.

WE DO HAVE A COPY OF OUR COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT ON OUR WEBPAGE.

AND SO WE USE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE FROM OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES, AS WELL AS CENSUS DATA, TO BE ABLE TO TELL SPECIFICS REGARDING OUR TARGET POPULATION.

AND THAT DOES INCLUDE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT FIT OUR CRITERIA FOR OUR PROGRAM.

AND SO IT IS LESS THAN 5% IN YOUR COUNTY.

SO IT DOES PRESENT A CHALLENGE BASED ON BEING A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM THAT TARGETS LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

GOOD.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HOMELESS KIDS AND I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HOMELESS PARENTS WHO HAVE KIDS.

UH, WHAT CAN WE DO? I KNOW WE'VE GOT A HOUSING OFFICE, THAT'S THE ABBOTT BACK THERE.

UM, TO ME IT'S 2022.

UH, WE SHOULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB WITH DEALING WITH HOMELESS ISSUES, ESPECIALLY IN A COUNTY SUCH AS YOURS.

SO COMMENT ON THAT.

UM, THIS YEAR WE DO HAVE THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND WE DO FOLLOW THE MCKINNEY VENTO RULE.

AND SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS REGARDING HAVING FIX ADEQUATE AND REGULAR HOUSING WHEN COVID HIT A LOT OF FAMILIES DOUBLED UP.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY OUR PERCENTAGES, OUR PERCENTAGE IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IS TYPICAL.

OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE DID EXPAND OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING.

SO I'M REALLY, REALLY LUCKY TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ABBOTT.

UM, EACH YEAR WE DO HAVE A HOUSING PRESENTATION AND WE DO REFER FAMILIES TO THE HOUSING DIVISION, TO WORK WITH THEM AND WORKING TOWARDS, UM, OBTAINING ADEQUATE HOUSING.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE GOALS OF OUR HEAD START PROGRAM SHOULD BE THAT WE HAVE ZERO HUMBLEST KIDS.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE HOUSING FOR THIS PARTNERSHIP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, BRIEFING US, UH, ON THE PROGRAM.

THIS, UH, THIS PROGRAM ALWAYS REALLY TOUCHES MY HEART BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S AN IMBALANCE IN OUR SOCIETY RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE CHILDREN, UM, FOR THE, UH, LESS AFFLUENT HAVE A TENDENCY NOT TO GET THE EDUCATION AND AT LEAST START OFF.

AND WE KNOW THE STARTING EARLY ENHANCES, UH, ENHANCES THE CAPABILITIES, THESE CHILDREN.

SO THIS PROGRAM TO ME IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

I'VE KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU KEEP UP WITH THE HOMELESS.

I MEAN, IT MUST BE MAYBE A DEFINITION SOMEWHERE THAT, BUT HOW DO YOU, IF SOMEONE'S HOMELESS OR SLEEPING IN CARS, THEY'VE BEEN INTENSE SOMEWHERE.

HOW DO YOU KEEP UP WITH THEM? WELL, THE, AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF OUR FAMILIES HONESTLY, ARE DOUBLED UP WHERE THEY HAVE MOVED IN WITH A RELATIVE OR A FRIEND, AND IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO BE DOUBLED UP, BUT THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE THAT THEY MAY RESIDE IN MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE OR SUFFICIENT FOR THAT FAMILY.

SO THEY'RE SLEEPING ON THE COUCH OR THEY'RE SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR.

AND WE DO LOOK AT THE LENGTH OF TIME TO DETERMINE IF IT'S A TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT OR A PERMANENT ARRANGEMENT.

AND SO WHEN THEY FIRST COME IN THROUGH THE INTAKE PROCESS, WE DO HAVE A QUESTIONNAIRE THAT THE FAMILY SERVICE PERSON WORKS WITH THE FAMILY ON COMPLETING TO DETERMINE IF THEY ARE TRULY HOMELESS AND BASED ON THEIR STATUS, WE PUT THEM IN THE SYSTEM AND WE DEVELOP FAMILY PARTNERSHIP PLANS, AND WE ASSIGNED THEM AGAIN, THE FAMILY SERVICE WORKER, WHICH PROVIDES CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT.

AND SO AS A PART OF THEIR FAMILY PARTNERSHIP, THEY WILL WORK WITH THE FAMILY ON OBTAINING MORE ADEQUATE HOUSING, IF THAT IS THE FAMILY'S DESIRE.

HOW DID THE MILITARY FIND OUT ABOUT IT? WE'RE REALLY LUCKY THAT ONE OF OUR, UM, TWO OF OUR CLASSROOMS ARE LOCATED ON THE BASE.

NOW, UM, IN THE PAST, WHEN I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE, THE SCHOOL, UM, OR OUT TO THE PROGRAM, AND, UM, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF MILITARY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM.

UM, IS THIS A PROGRAM ADVERTISED ON BASE OR HOW TO, HOW TO, HOW DID THE BASE, I MEAN, HOW,

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SO WE HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS AT CLASSROOMS AT OUR BETHEL MANOR LOCATION, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, THE MILITARY HOUSING.

AND SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO OUR FAMILY SERVICES, UM, IN ADVERTISEMENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING RECRUITMENT STRATEGIES, THEY DO GO TO BASE HOUSING AND THE LIAISON THERE TO TALK WITH, UM, THE ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLING.

AND I CAN SHARE THAT WE DON'T, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH ENROLLING FAMILIES AT THE BETHEL MANOR LOCATION, BECAUSE AGAIN, THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH.

SO A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES KNOW THAT WHEN THEY GO TO THE SCHOOL TO ENROLL THEIR OTHER CHILDREN, THAT THEY ARE AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS, UM, THAT, UM, THEY MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

AND SO WE HAVE RECRUITMENT SIGNS, BANNERS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL, ON THEIR PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU RIDE ON THE BASE OR ENTER NEAR THE BETHEL MANOR LOCATION, YOU WILL SEE SIGNS ADVERTISING FOR YOUR COUNTY'S PRESCHOOL INITIATIVES.

NOW YOU SAID THAT, THAT, UM, NOW THE PROGRAMS FOR THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS, RIGHT, FIVE-YEAR OLD, THEY GO INTO A PRE-K RIGHT.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? YES.

SO TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM, THEY DO HAVE TO BE AGES THREE TO FOUR AND NOT FELT SCHOOL, AGE ELIGIBLE FOR THE SCHOOL.

SO THE SCHOOL CUTOFF IS SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO IF THEY DO TURN FIVE AFTER THE SCHOOL CUTOFF, THEN THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM, BUT FOR RECRUITMENT PURPOSES, BASED ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, WHEN WE FIRST START THE PROGRAM, WE ADVERTISE FOR THOSE THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS.

SO, SO YOU HAVEN'T MET TO YOUR ENROLLMENT VIA ENROLLMENT REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? YOU'RE STILL, YOU'VE STILL GOT VACANCIES AS A I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IS TO I'M REMEMBER, I CAN GO BACK 20 YEARS ON THIS, AND I REMEMBER IT WAS A WAITING LIST TO GET INTO THIS PROGRAM.

SO NOW I'M HEARING THERE ISN'T AND I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE SOME DEMOGRAPHIC ISSUES ARE SHIFTING, UM, AS CAUSING THIS OR LESS, THERE ARE LESS THREE OR FOUR YEAR OLDS, OR WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? NOT QUITE, UM, I CAN SAY THAT THERE ARE LESS INCOME ELIGIBLE FAMILIES IN YORK, AGAIN, BASED ON THE, UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF POVERTY IN THE COUNTY OF YORK THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, AS WELL AS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WITH COVID, THERE WERE SOME LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAD TO HERE TOO.

SO THEY DID DECREASE THE RATIO, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT WE COULD HAVE IN THE CLASSROOM, SO TO IT.

SO TO ENSURE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO KEEP CHILDREN SEPARATED.

WE DID DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT WE SERVED LAST YEAR FOR THIS YEAR.

I CAN SHARE THAT IT WAS THE SAME STARTING OFF BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT WE CAN HAVE IN A CLASSROOM.

SO WE DID, UM, WORK TOWARDS LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT STAFFING AND TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN, UM, ENROLL CHILDREN, UM, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AND TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

AND SO WE ENROLLED A SMALLER PERCENTAGE FOR THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

AND SO FAR WE'VE HAD THREE COHORTS OF CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE ENROLLED.

AND SO OUR FOURTH COHORT WILL START ON MARCH 28TH.

SO WE'VE JUST KIND OF STAGGERED THEM IN TO ASSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN, VERY, VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING IT'S A PRIVILEGE OF MINE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ON THE POLICY COUNCIL WITH MS. AMBER AND OTHER FOLKS AS WELL, AND GET TO WORK WITH THEM MONTH TO MONTH.

IN FACT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS TOMORROW FOR FEBRUARY.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

SO TWO THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST KIND OF SHARE WITH EVERYBODY HOW THE PROGRAMS AREN'T JUST RELATED CENTRAL ON CENTRALIZED ON THE KIDS, BUT HOW YOU ALSO PULLING THE FAMILIES AND THE LEGAL GUARDIANS AS WELL TO MAKE A WHOLE FAMILY SOLUTION IN YOUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT SETS US APART FROM OTHER EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM.

YES, EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT.

OUR OVERALL GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN ARE READY FOR SCHOOL, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY CANNOT BE READY ALONE.

SO WE DO PROVIDE FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN HOLISTIC APPROACH TO WORKING WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE FAMILY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES THAT WE UTILIZE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT IMPACTS THAT FAMILY AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE HOME CAN IMPACT THAT CHILD.

AND SO WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE DIVISION.

I FAMILY SERVICES DIVISION THAT WORKS SIDE BY SIDE WITH FAMILIES ON SPECIFIC GOALS.

SO THEY CAN WORK TOWARDS IMPROVING THEIR SELF-SUFFICIENCY AS WELL AS THEIR PARENTING SKILLS.

AND SO WE HAVE A HOST OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE OFFER TO FAMILIES, WHETHER IT'S PARENT TRAINING, UM, WE HAVE PARENT-CHILD ACTIVITIES.

WE SEND AT HOME LEARNING PACKETS EVERY MONTH.

WE SENT HOME A LITERACY PACKET, UM, THAT PROVIDES INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW THAT PARENT CAN BE EMPOWERED TO BE THAT CHILD'S FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT TEACHER.

PARTICULARLY IN, DURING THE COVID TIMES WITH LIMITED RESOURCES, SO FORTH IS TRULY REMARKABLE.

THANKS.

AND SECOND, I JUST WANT TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WHAT I SEE THIS STAFF WITH THIS RELATIVELY SMALL STAFF ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH,

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YOUR TEAM IS FOCUSED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILY, AND IT REALLY DOES ADD A LOT OF BENEFIT TO HELP THEM TRULY IT'S A HEADSTOCK PROGRAM.

SO THESE KIDS CAN LEAVE FROM HERE, LEAVE FROM YOUR PROGRAM AND ARE READY TO GO INTO PRE-K AND REGULAR SCHOOL.

AND IT'S A VALUE ADD TO THE COUNTY.

SO YOU CAN JUST APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE STAFF AND TEAM DOES.

THEY HELP OUR YOUNG KIDS HERE IN THE COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU.

PRESENTATION WILL BE FROM OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY UPDATE.

AND AMBER, YOU CAN TELL THAT THE BOARD REALLY SUPPORTS ALL THAT YOU DO.

YOU'VE GOT A MARVELOUS PROGRAM AND YOU'VE GOT A MARVELOUS STAFF, A CARING STAFF, AND THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO THOSE YOUNG CHILDREN.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE NEXT

[B General Assembly Update. Receive presentation from James Barnett, County Attorney.]

A FEW HIGHLIGHTS JUST TO MENTION, BY THE WAY, IN TERMS OF THEIR CALENDAR, TOMORROW IS CROSSOVER DAY.

SO TODAY IS EXCEPT FOR BUDGET BILLS WHEN THEY GET UNTIL THE 24TH.

UM, THEN EACH HOUSE HAS TO COMPLETE WORK ON THE BILLS, WHICH ORIGINATED IN THAT HOUSE.

AND TOMORROW'S THE DAY IN WHICH THE HOUSE BILLS SWITCH OVER TO THE SENATE TO BE CONSIDERED SENATE BILLS TO THE HOUSE, ALTHOUGH THEY ACTUALLY CAN START EARLY.

UM, AND THERE'S ONE I'LL MENTION WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE.

UM, AND, UM, A FEW, A FEW HIGHLIGHTS IF, IF I WILL, UH, QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED PREVIOUSLY, UM, EARLIER THE BOARD SHOWED A CONCERN ABOUT SEVERAL BILLS, UH, RELATING TO THE GAS TAX.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BILLS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, SIMPLY FOR ONE YEAR SUSPENDED THE IMPOSITION OF ANY ORIGINAL FUELS TAX IN THE COMMONWEALTH, UM, AND, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION FUNDING OF, OF THE TWO THAT WOULD HAVE SIMPLY HAVE SUSPENDED THE GAS TAX HOUSE, BILL 2 97 AND HOUSE BILL 10 59.

UM, THEY BOTH APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN DEFEATED A HOUSE BILL 2 97 APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN LEFT IN COMMITTEE.

THAT IS TO SAY IT WAS ASSIGNED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

BUT THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, WHICH WAS TODAY, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE HAD TAKEN NO ACTION ON IT.

SO PROBABLY TOMORROW OR SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE, IF YOU GO TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WEBSITE AND PULL UP THIS BILL, WHAT YOU'LL GET AS THE LAST ACTION ITEM IS LEFT IN COMMITTEE, THERE, THERE ARE ALWAYS A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT THE COMMITTEES NEVER GET TO THE WHOLE RAFT OF EDUCATION BILLS AND VOTING BILLS THAT ARE APPARENTLY, SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BE ACTED ON.

ANYWAY, THAT IS ONE OF THE HOUSE BILL 10 59, UM, WAS ACTUALLY TABLED IN COMMITTEE.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY ACTION TAKEN TO SIMPLY STOP THAT BILL FROM PROCEEDING.

THE ONE THAT HAS REMAINED AS HOUSE BILL 1144, DELEGATE WEEBER PATRON TO THAT ONE, AND THAT IS GOING TO NOT ELIMINATE, BUT LOWER THE, UM, THE TAX RATES, ASSUMING BY THE WAY, THE SENATE GOES ALONG WITH IT, LOWER THE TAX RATES ON GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL FOR ONE YEAR AS FOLLOWS AND BEGINNING ON JULY ONE, UM, ON, UH, GASOLINE LOWERING THE TAX FROM 26.20 CENTS PER GALLON TO 21.20 CENTS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, FOR DIESEL FUEL LOWERING IT FROM 27 CENTS TO 20.20 CENTS.

AND THEN, UH, AS A JULY 1ST, 2023, THEY WOULD RESERVE A RESORT, UM, REVERT BACK TO THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN THEREAFTER, THEY WOULD BE INDEX BASED THE CHANGE IN THE US AVERAGE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, UM, AND THEN INDEX OR RE INDEX ANNUALLY.

SO THAT ONE DID PASS THE HOUSE.

SO THAT WILL GO TO THE SENATE, UM, ON THE GROCERY TAX, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS WHICH WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THE STATE SALES TAX ON GROCERIES, INCLUDING THE, THE LOCAL 1% OPTION, WHICH IS AN OPTION ONLY, BUT WE'VE EXERCISED IT.

UM, AND ONE OF THOSE BILLS AT LEAST WOULD HAVE ADDED SOMETHING TO MAKE UP PART.

WELL, IT PARTLY FOR SCHOOLS, BUT HERE'S, HERE'S WHERE THOSE STAND, UM, OF THE TWO HOUSE BILLS.

UH, ONE STILL SURVIVES IT'S HOUSE, BILL 90, UM, WHICH, UH, ELIMINATES AS I, AS I CAN READ THE BILL AND IT, A LOT OF THE BILLS HAVE HAD SUBSTITUTES ADDED AND SO FORTH FLOOR AMENDMENTS.

SO TRYING TO READ THEM AT THE LAST MINUTE, IT MAY MEAN THAT I HAVE TO LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER AT THEM AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU NOW, BUT IT APPEARS TO HAVE ELIMINATED THAT TO ELIMINATE THE LOCAL OPTION, BUT NONETHELESS PROVIDE AT LEAST FOR SOME SCHOOL SUPPLEMENT.

UH, THE BILL IS RATHER LONG AND COMPLEX.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK TO VML OF VACO TO MAYBE HELP ME FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT SUPPLEMENT SCHOOL SUPPLEMENT WOULD AMOUNT

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TO THE OTHER HOUSE.

BILL HOUSE BILL 1 0, 0 8, APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN LEFT IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WITHOUT ACTION BEING TAKEN ON IT.

ON THE SENATE SIDE, THERE WERE THREE BILLS AIMED SPECIFICALLY AT GROCERIES, OR AS THE PHRASE THAT THAT IS IN THE BILLS IS FOOD PURCHASED FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION AND THEY ARE ALL GONE.

BUT HOWEVER, THEY GOT ROLLED INTO SENATE BILL 4 51, WHICH HAS ORIGINALLY INTRODUCED, ONLY WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THE SALES TAX ON FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS, BUT THAT THERE IS NOW A SUBSTITUTE BILL FOR A SENATE BILL 4 51, WHICH ELIMINATES GROCERIES, EXCEPT IT DOES APPEAR TO PRESERVE THE 1% LOCAL OPTION.

SO THAT'S THE BILL THAT IS GOING FORWARD IN THE SENATE, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THE HOUSE DOES WITH IT WHEN IT CLASHES WITH HOUSE BILL 90 AND THEN VICE VERSA.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT STILL SURVIVE, UM, IN TAXES, A COUPLE OF INTERESTING BILLS, UH, HOUSE BILL 10, 10, AND WE'LL SEE HOW THIS ONE DOES IN THE SENATE, BUT IT REQUIRES THE GOVERNING BODY OF A LOCALITY TO HOLD A REFERENDUM BEFORE MAKING AN INCREASE IN THE PERSONAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE OF GREATER THAN 1%.

NOW YOU MAY RECALL THAT UNDER THE CURRENT STATUTE, LOCALITIES EITHER HAVE TO HOLD THEIR REAL ESTATE TAX INCREASE.

IT, UH, IT'S A TO AN AMOUNT WHICH INCREASES REVENUES BY NO MORE THAN 1%, THAT IS 101% OF WHAT IT WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR IN SUBSECTION B.

AND THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY DOES.

YOU'LL SEE THESE ADS RUN IN THE SPRING.

THERE'S A SPECIAL ADVERTISEMENT THAT YOU CAN RUN, WHICH, AND THE STATUTE SETS OUT PRECISELY THE LANGUAGE, THE FORMAT IN WHICH IT, IT LOOKS TELLS YOU WHAT SIZE TYPE THAT HAS TO BE IN, WHICH IS LARGER TYPE THAN NORMAL FOR CLASSIFIED ADS.

AND IT HAS TO TALK ABOUT AN EFFECTIVE TAX RATE INCREASE CAUSED SIMPLY BY INCREASES IN, UM, ASSESSMENTS ON REAL ESTATE.

UM, AND THAT'S THE OPTION THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERY LOCALITY IS FOLLOWED AND THAT'S ONLY BY THE WAY AND YEARS OF A GENERAL REASSESSMENT.

SO WE ONLY HAVE TO CONTEND WITH IT EVERY OTHER YEAR.

UH, UM, BUT THAT HOUSE BILL 10, 10 DID PASS IN THE HOUSE.

UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S COMPANION BILL IN THE SENATE, SENATE BILL SIX, 20 FAILED.

UM, IT WAS PASSED BY INDEFINITELY IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

SO WHETHER IT SURVIVES ON THE SENATE SIDE, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE, UM, HOUSE BILL 360 8.

UM, I MEAN, YOU, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE RECENTLY AMENDED OUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE, UM, THE TREASURER TO ISSUE REFUNDS UP TO $5,000 RATHER THAN $2,500 WITHOUT COMING TO THE BOARD.

IF, UM, IF SENATE BILL SIX 20, UH, EXCUSE ME, IF HOUSE BILL 360 8 IS, IS PASSED AND IT HAS PASSED IN THE HOUSE AND IS NOW ASSIGNED TO SENATE FINANCE, AND THAT CAN BE LIFTED UP TO 10,000.

IF THAT HAPPENS, WE'LL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A FURTHER AMENDMENT TO YOUR ORDINANCE.

UM, LET'S SEE, HOUSE BILL 9 57, UM, AGAIN, HAS PASSED THE HOUSE IS AS, UH, WOULD ALLOW A LOCALITY AND ITS OPTION TO DECLARE REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY A SURVIVING SPOUSE OF A MEMBER OF THE ARMED FORCES WHO DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE OCCUPY OF THE REAL PROPERTY AS HIS OR HER PRINCIPAL PLACE OF RESIDENCE AT A REDUCED TAX RATE, YOU CAN CLASSIFY THAT AS A SEPARATE CLASSIFICATION OF PROPERTY, AS LONG AS THE TAX RATE IS SOMETHING GREATER THAN ZERO AND DOES NOT EXCEED THE RATE OF TAX THAT'S GENERALLY APPLICABLE.

SO IF THIS BILL PASSES THROUGH THE SENATE AS WELL, THAT'LL BE AN OPTION UP TO YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, SENATE BILL 4 38, ACTUALLY DEALS WITH WE'VE COME, WHAT WE'VE COME TO KNOW AS THE TAMI TAX.

AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY, UH, LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED BY THE EFFECTED LOCALITIES, UH, BEFORE IT WAS INTRODUCED.

IT DOES, UM, UH, INDICATE THE AMOUNTS THAT, OF THE REVENUES FROM THAT EXTRA TAX, HOW MUCH, UM, EACH LOCALITY THEN HAS TO CONTRIBUTE TO TOURISM AND TO VARIOUS FUNDS, UH, VARIOUS FUNDS.

BUT IT, IT SPECIFIES EXACTLY WHERE THAT MONEY IS TO GO.

THE AMOUNT TO BE CONTRIBUTED BY YOUR COUNTY IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTING.

SO THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.

IT DOES SPECIFY, HOWEVER, THAT WILLIAMSBURG TOURISM COUNCIL GETS AT LEAST $126,000.

THE GREATER WAYNESBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE GETS AT LEAST 400, $2,000.

AND THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AUTHORITY SPORTS AUTHORITY WILL GET AT LEAST $1,450,000.

SO THAT HAS BEEN PASSED THE SENATE AND I SUSPECT THE HOUSE AND WE'LL HAVE

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NO TROUBLE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY MOSTLY AREN'T PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH IT.

UM, ANOTHER, UH, UH, SET OF BILLS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WATCHING HAVE TO DO WITH MARIJUANA RETAIL SALES.

YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR, CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF POSSESSION, UM, WERE LEGALIZED.

THERE WAS A BILL OR THE BILL THAT PASSED ALSO ADDRESSED RETAIL SALES, BUT SAID WITH RESPECT TO RESET TAIL SALES, THERE HAD TO BE A READOPT OF THAT PORTION OF THE LEGISLATION THIS YEAR, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE.

THERE IS, UM, ONE SENATE BILL THAT, THAT SEEMS TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, IT'S A SENATE BILL 3 91 AND IT CREATES, BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR'S BILL.

AND IT'S ALSO 197 PAGES LONG.

SO FORGIVE ME IF I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SWALLOW ALL OF IT, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT ADDRESSES LOCAL RETAIL SALES AT THE, AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPTION.

AND THE WAY THAT LAST YEAR'S BILL SENT TO REMIND YOU LAST YEAR'S BILL SAID THAT ONCE RETAIL SALES BECOME EFFECTIVE, OR REALLY JUST, JUST BEFORE THEY DO BECOME, BECOME PERMITTED, THEN LOCALITIES, IF THEY DON'T WISH TO HAVE RETAIL SALES IN THEIR LOCALITY, HAVE THE OPTION OF CALLING FOR A REFEREE, A BINDING REFERENDUM, WHICH BY THE WAY, WOULD HAVE TO BE THIS NOVEMBER.

UM, AND IF YOU OPTED OUT OF RETAIL SALES OCCURRING IN YOUR LOCALITY, THEN YOU ALSO PASSED UP THE 3% SALES TAX OR THE 3% OF THE SALES TAX THAT THE LOCALITY COULD THEN, UM, COULD THEN, UM, UH, CAKE FOR ITSELF.

UM, THIS BILL DID PASS THE SENATE ACCORDING TO, UH, UH, EMAILS THAT PASS FROM, UH, VML AND VACO.

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, THE LOCAL OPTION MAY HAVE BEEN STRIPPED OUT OF IT, OR AT LEAST THE 3% SALES TAX GOING TO LOCALITIES.

I WOULD HAVE TO SEE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO, WHEN SOMETHING COMES OUT, THEN I CAN SAY THE BILL IS 197 PAGES LONG.

SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE BEFORE SOMEBODY REALLY WAVES THROUGH IT ALL TO SEE WHAT IT DOES, BUT AT LEAST IT DOES ESTABLISH A FRAMEWORK FOR RETAIL SALES AROUND THE COMMONWEALTH, WHETHER WE CAN HAVE, HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT OUT.

I'M STILL NOT CERTAIN.

I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

UM, THERE IS, UH, ANOTHER SENATE BILL THREE 13, WHICH IS, UM, WAS REPORTED OUT.

AND THE LAST I CHECKED, I MEAN, WHEN I CHECK IN THIS AFTERNOON HOUSE AND SENATE WERE STILL IN SESSION FINISHING UP THEIR BILL.

SO MAYBE I COULD LOOK IN A SECOND AND SEE HOW THIS ONE ENDED UP, BUT IT WAS GOING TO ALLOW PHARMACISTS OR CERTAIN PHARMACEUTICAL PROCESSORS AND INDUSTRIAL HEMP PROCESSORS, UH, TO SELL CANNABIS PRODUCTS AT RETAIL TO UNREGISTERED PERSONS WHO ARE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.

UH, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE THAT WHERE THAT ONE GOES, THAT'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT LOCALITY WOULD HAVE ANY OPTIONS ON, BUT JUST BE AWARE THAT THAT ONE'S STILL FLOATING OUT THERE.

THERE WERE SEVERAL HOUSE BILLS, BUT APPARENTLY THE HOUSE DECIDED NOT TO MOVE THOSE BILLS FORWARD, BUT INSTEAD TO SEE WHAT THE SENATE WOULD DO, WHAT BILLS WOULD BE SENT TO THEM TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD REACT.

UM, SO MORE ON THAT LATER AS IT DEVELOPED, UH, AN INTERESTING BILL BY THE WAY, WAS, DID NOT PASS, UM, UH, DELEGATE.

CORDOZA INTRODUCE ONE OF THE PENINSULA AIRPORT COMMISSION, WHICH WOULD HAVE ADDED TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION CITY OF BOSTON.

UH, TWO MEMBERS, TWO MEMBERS FROM CITY OF WAYNESBURG, ONE FROM JAMES CITY COUNTY, AND ONE FROM NEW YORK COUNTY.

THIS WAS A CARRY A CONTINUED OVER TO 20, 23 AND TRANSPORTATION, UM, AS SORT OF AN EYEBROW RAISING BILL.

BUT, UH, UM, JUST TO BE AWARE, IT WAS INTRODUCED, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FURTHER THIS YEAR.

UM, A COUPLE OF BILLS.

I KNOW THAT OUR OWN, UM, COMPUTER SUPPORT PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT SENATE BILL 7 64 AND HOUSE BILL 1290 WOULD REQUIRE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO REPORT.

UM, LET ME SEE HOW IT'S PHRASED HERE WITHIN 24 HOURS.

UM, ANY INDICATION OF A POTENTIAL, UM, DISRUPTION, UM, IN THEIR SECURITY SYSTEM OR SECURITY BRIDGE.

THE CONCERN BEING, UH, BILL WAS VERY VAGUE ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT HAD TO BE REPORTED.

AND THAT 24 HOURS WAS A VERY SHORT TIMEFRAME TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS EVEN SOMETHING THAT WAS IN FACT, A SERIOUS ENOUGH EVENT TO, TO CONSIDER, BUT THEY HAVE PASSED THEIR RESPECTIVE HOUSES.

SENATE BILL PASSED THE SENATE AND HOUSE BILL PASSED THE HOUSE.

SO I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ONE COME THROUGH.

UM, THERE WERE, UM, SEVERAL BILLS DIRECTED AT THE MINIMUM WAGE, WHICH WOULD FREEZE THE MINIMUM WAGE.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT RECENTLY THERE WAS AN ADOPTION LAST YEAR, I GUESS, THAT OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL YEARS STEPPED UP EVERY YEAR, THE MINIMUM WAGE IN VIRGINIA UP TO, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT TOTALLY GOT TO $15 AN HOUR, BUT IT GOT WENT THAT WAY.

THERE WERE SEVERAL HOUSE BILLS, SEVERAL BILLS THAT WOULD HAVE FROZEN, UH, THAT, UH, THAT INCREASED AT ITS CURRENT LEVEL OF $11 AN HOUR HOUSE

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BILL 2 96, DID THAT.

IT DID PASS THE HOUSE HOUSE BILL THREE 20 DID THAT, UH, WHEN I LAST CHECKED, IT WAS AT LEAST REPORTED TO BE CONSIDERED.

ON THE OTHER HAND, SENATE BILL 1 73, IDENTICAL BILL FAILED IN SENATE COMMERCE COMMITTEE.

SO THOSE HOUSE BILLS MAY NOT, MAY NOT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

NOW.

I KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAS HAD SOME INTEREST IN SCHOOLS.

UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY READ, UH, SENATE BILL 7 39.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN IT BY THAT NUMBER.

THIS WAS A BILL WHICH ORIGINALLY DID NOT APPLY TO MASKS.

IT WAS JUST SOME OTHER ASPECTS OF EDUCATION, BUT A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE ADDED THAT PARENTS MAY ELECT FOR THEIR CHILDREN NOT TO WEAR A MASK IN SCHOOL THAT WAS PASSED QUICKLY IN THE SENATE AND ACTUALLY HANDED OVER TO THE HOUSE.

WHO'VE ALREADY ACTED ON IT.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY PASSED.

IT IS SITTING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.

THE GOVERNOR'S INDICATED HE WANTS TO MAKE IT EMERGENCY LEGISLATION, WHICH NORMALLY REQUIRES TWO THIRDS VOTES IN BOTH CHAMBERS.

HOWEVER, THE CONSTITUTION OF VIRGINIA ALSO SUGGESTS THAT, UM, THAT ANY, UH, SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TO BILLS RECOMMENDED BY THE GOVERNOR CAN ONLY, ONLY NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY SIMPLE MAJORITY IN EACH HOUSE.

SO, UM, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THAT.

SO WE MAY FIND THAT BOTH THE HOUSES ARE IN FACT, UM, HAPPY TO MAKE THAT EMERGENCY LEGISLATION.

OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BECOME EFFECTIVE UNTIL JULY ONE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A SHORT RECAP OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I ACTUALLY DID BRING MY ENTIRE BOOK HERE OF 80 SOME PAGES OF, OF WITH BILL SUMMARIES.

UM, MOST OF WHICH WOULDN'T INTEREST YOU REAL QUICK, THAT IT SECURITY BILL, YOU MENTIONED, DID THAT ADD ANY LANGUAGE IN THAT, WHICH WAS A SPECIFIED WHAT THE TRIGGER WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT WILL PART OF THE CONCERN WAS THAT IT WAS NOT PRECISE ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE BILL'S GONNA BE FURTHER AMENDED.

UH, BOTH HOUSES HAVE ALREADY ADAPTED THEIR, THEIR RESPECT TO BILLS.

SO BECAUSE WHAT'D YOU READ BECAUSE WHAT YOU READ THERE IN THE TIME IT TOOK YOU TO READ IT.

THERE WAS PROBABLY A DOZEN INDICATORS THAT SOMETHING NEFARIOUS WAS ATTEMPTED IN COUNTY.

UM, IT SERVICES.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE SOME REGULATION, UH, TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING FOR.

HOPEFULLY I, HOPEFULLY THEY CLARIFY THAT.

SO YES.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS YOU'RE TALKING, UH, JUST, YOU JUST SAID THAT THE GOVERNOR, UH, WANTS TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY BOTH HOUSES.

OH YES.

HE, YES.

HE, HE CAN DO THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ROUTINELY DONE.

DID HE STAY WITH THAT AMENDMENT? HE WANTS TO MAKE IT AN EMERGENCY LEGISLATION.

THAT IS THE NORMAL RULE IS THAT BILL'S ADOPTED BETTER REGULAR SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BECOME EFFECTIVE AS OF JULY ONE.

SO HE WANTS TO BE LESS.

THE BILL STATES TYPICALLY A LATER DAY, YOU OFTEN SEE BILLS THAT BECOME EFFECTIVE LATER IN THE YEAR.

UH, EMERGENCY LEGISLATION, IF IT IS ADOPTED BY A TWO THIRDS, MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES BECOMES EFFECTIVE.

AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR SIGNS IT, HE WANTS TO MAKE THIS EMERGENCY LEGISLATION.

SO HE'S GOING TO SEND BACK TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE TO SEE IF THEY WILL ADOPT HIS RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE, WHAT WE SOMETIMES CALL THE VETO SESSION.

THE RECONVENE SESSION AT WHICH IS IN APRIL, APRIL 27TH.

SO, UM, THE LANGUAGE AND THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION MAY BE A LITTLE, UH, AT ODDS WITH ITSELF, BUT IT APPEARS IN THE PAST, IT HAS ALLOWED THE GOVERNOR TO RECOMMEND THAT A BILL BECOME AN EMERGENCY MEASURE AS LONG AS IT AS ADOPTED BY SIMPLE MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COMMENT YOU MADE RELATIVE TO A TAX ASSESSMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL SUFFERING THROUGH THE REASSESSMENT PROCESS AND MANY OF THE PROPERTIES IN YOUR COUNTY, OF COURSE, FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES.

UH, YOU BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE TAX RATE RELATIVE TO THESE INCREASE OF ASSESSMENTS.

WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? NOW? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT SAYS IF THE TAX ASSESSMENTS EXCEED A CERTAIN, UH, PERCENT, THE RATE HAS GOT TO BE ADJUSTED DOWN BECAUSE THE INCREASE IN THE RATE CAN ONLY BE SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU KNOW.

CANNOT BE RUN AT THE SAME TIME ON THE, I THINK IT'S NOT TO NOT TOGETHER WITH OR ON THE SAME DAY AS YOUR, YOUR BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AD.

OR THAT'S, THAT'S A SUBSECTION A, OF THAT PARTICULAR STATUTE, OR YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SUBSECTION BIG BECAUSE YOU HAVE EITHER OPTION.

AND THAT IS, THERE'S AN ADVERTISEMENT THAT YOU RUN.

IT, IT INDICATES WHAT THE EFFECTIVE IT'S CALLED, THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE INCREASE.

THAT IS TO SAY, YOUR RATE MAY HAVE REMAINED THE SAME, BUT PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED.

AND SO PEOPLE WILL THEREFORE PAY MORE TAXES.

AND SO YOU ADVERTISE THAT AS AN EFFECTIVE TAX RATE INCREASE.

UM, NOW ONE OF THE BILLS THAT ACTUALLY DOES ADDRESS THAT, AND I THINK IT'S, THE SENATE VERSION HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED THAT ONLY TO SAY THAT THE ADVERTISEMENT THAT YOU MUST RUN

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SO THE SENATE BILL AND THE HOUSE BILL DIFFER IN THAT REGARD, THE HOUSE BILL SAYS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REFERENDUM.

THE SENATE BILL SAYS, NOW YOU'VE JUST GOT TO RUN YOUR AD DIFFERENTLY.

SO TH TH TH UH, YOUR COUNTY, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS AROUND HERE TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAVE TAKEN THE ADVANTAGE OF RUNNING THAT ADVERTISEMENT.

AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THEM IN THE PAPER.

UM, SO IN APRIL, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF, IF, IF THE AVERAGE RATE INCREASE OF ASSESSMENTS IS THAT IT'S DIRECTLY RELATES TO THE TAX RATE, THEY NEED TO BE REDUCED.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE WAY THE STATUTE IS PHRASED IS IF YOUR CURRENT RE IF YOUR CURRENT TAX RATE ON REAL ESTATE, IT ONLY AFFECTS YOUR REAL ESTATE.

YOUR CURRENT TAX RATE OR REAL ESTATE WILL, WILL YIELD REVENUES FROM YOUR REAL ESTATE TAXATION, WHICH ARE IN EXCESS OF 100.

AND 1% OF, OF YOUR, YOUR LAST REASSESSMENT, WHICH FOR US IS EVERY TWO YEARS.

UM, THEN YOU EITHER HAVE TO LOWER YOUR TAX RATE SO THAT YOU ARE LIMITED TO THE ONE, THE EXTRA 1%, WHICH WOULD BE, I SUPPOSE, DIFFICULT TO DO AT A TIME OF INFLATION LIKE WE HAVE NOW, OR YOU RUN THIS AD AND HAVE A SPA, AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH IT, WHICH CANNOT BE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PUBLIC BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CAN BE THE SAME NIGHT, BUT JUST NOT AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU'LL NOTICE IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD DONE THOSE, THE LAST TIMES WE'VE DONE THOSE, THAT WE'VE ALWAYS SEPARATED THE PUBLIC, THE LAST QUESTION, AND THAT IS, UH, THE GOVERNOR ESSENTIALLY, UH, BEAT HIS OPPONENT BASED ON THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF PARENTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THEIR TEACHERS, IN THEIR STUDENT'S EDUCATION.

UH, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WAS CRITICAL, RACE THEORY, ANYTHING COME OUT OF THE, AND THEN WE FIND THE LANGUAGE ON THIS ONE.

UM, THERE WAS A BIT, WELL, HOUSE BILL 7 87, YOU USED THE TERM, UH, DIFF DIVISIVE CONCEPT.

YOU CANNOT TEACH A DIVISIVE CONCEPT AND NOBODY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANT AHEAD OF SOME DEFINITION TO IT.

THERE'S BEEN A FLOOR AMENDMENT ON THAT.

I CAN READ IT QUICKLY, THE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY SCHOOL BOARD, A DATA DATA TEACH ANY PUBLIC ELEMENTARY OR SECONDARY SCHOOL STUDENT TO BELIEVE OR PROMOTE, UH, THE BELIEF THAT ONE RACE OR SEX IS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER RACE OR SEX THAT AN INDIVIDUAL BY VIRTUE OF RACE OR SEX IS INHERENTLY RACIST, SEXIST, OR PRESSIVE, UM, THAT AN INDIVIDUAL, SHOULD IT BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST OR REVERE RECEIVE ADVERSE TREATMENT AND BASICALLY, UH, BASED PARTLY ON RACE OR SEX, UH, ET CETERA.

SO IT'S NOT NEW WAVE FROM A VAGUE TERM CALLED DIVISIVE CONCEPT WORDS.

THAT BILL W THAT BILL, THAT BILL WAS, UH, AMENDED AND, UH, HOUSE BILL 7 87 DID ACTUALLY PASS THE HOUSE.

SO TO, SO, UM, YEAH, IT PASSED THE HOUSE WITH, WITH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER FLOOR AMENDMENTS AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT THROUGH, BUT THAT'S, I THINK THAT IS THE CRUX OF IT.

IT DOES GO ON TO SAY THAT NOT WITHSTANDING ANY SCHOOL BOARD OR EMPLOYEE, UM, CAN TEACH CONTENT THAT INCLUDES PAST OR PRESENT BELIEF BY ANY VISUAL OR GROUP IN ANY CONCEPT CONTINUE, UH, CONTAINED IN THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH.

SO YOU CAN TURN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TEACH OTHER PEOPLE USED TO BELIEVE THIS OR OTHER GROUPS USED TO OR STILL DO IT, WHATEVER, BUT YOU DON'T GO.

AND THAT, THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME CONCERNED.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S COME THROUGH ON THAT RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST, AT LEAST ON THAT.

YOU FINISHED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JIM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITIZEN

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COMMENT PERIOD.

I HAVE ONE PERSON WHO SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL COMMENTS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS.

LET ME SEE, WHAT DID I DO WITH IT? OKAY, TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TOM, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME, ADDRESS, AND GET THREE MINUTES.

I AM TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TWO 70 BARLOW ROAD IN WILLIAMSBURG.

AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL CITIZEN COMMENTS IN THE PAST.

UM, THIS BOARD HAS ALWAYS LISTENED TO ALL CITIZENS, NO MATTER WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

UM, JAMES CITY COUNTY HAD A LARGE PUBLIC HEARING LAST WEEK, AND THAT WASN'T THE CASE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM YOUR COUNTY, NEW KENT COUNTY WERE THERE.

AND MR. HILL'S COMMENT AFTER THAT WAS YOUR COUNTY SHOULD STAY IN THEIR OWN LANE.

AND HE WAS PUT OFF A LITTLE THAT PEOPLE FROM YOUR COUNTY IN NEW KENT COUNTY CAME AND TALKED TO THE VERY MAJOR REZONING.

MS. SADLER SAID SHE WAS TAKEN ABACK THAT YOUR COUNTY CAME OUT.

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THE FOLKS THAT WERE THERE AND PART OF IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO OR PROPOSE A REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX, WHICH I PERSONALLY SUPPORT, BUT HOW DO WE CONTAIN A BOARD THAT DOESN'T WANT INPUT FROM YOUR COUNTY OR NEW KENT COUNTY WHO ARE, UM, UH, JOINING THEM? SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT PUT OFF BY THAT AND CONCERN, AND I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF COMMENTS FROM, FROM THIS BOARD.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND, AND I ASKED YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.

UM, THE FINAL THING I'VE GOT IS, UH, UNLIKE FOOT ROAD, AS YOU GO ACROSS THE CSX TRACKS, IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN THAT IT IS REALLY BAD AND PEOPLE COME TO A STOP ON THEIR FRONT TIRE, THEY COME THEY'LL STOP ON THEIR BACK TIRE.

AND THAT REALLY FURTHER DELAYS, UM, FOLKS GETTING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

AND I WOULD JUST ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING CAN BE DONE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THE BOARD OR THE STAFF CAN PROMPT CSX TO LOOK AT THAT AND DO SOME REPAIRS OR, OR REPLACEMENT OF THAT, UM, OF THAT CROSSING? I KNOW IT'S NOT THE COUNTY.

I KNOW IT'S NOT BEAT UP.

UM, BUT IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO WHAT'S ON HENRY STREET IN WILLIAMSBURG, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, YOU CAN JUST ROLL RIGHT ACROSS THERE.

IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON LIGHTFOOT ROAD, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP.

SO I JUST ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AND THAT'S ALL I THINK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HASN'T SIGNED UP WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YES, THAT WAS THAT ONE.

THAT ONE, THIS WAS NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS GENERAL MR. BARNETT, WOULD YOU DO HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT HAS IT DOWN HERE.

THE ISSUE IS WE ASKED FOR MRS. NELSON GRANT THOUGH, RIGHT? SO THAT THESE ARE GENERAL COMMENTS.

THEY JUST WROTE THE ORDER THAT THEY SIGNED UP.

SO THESE ARE TO BE CALLED NOW.

BEFORE WE DIDN'T DO IT, RIGHT.

MY APOLOGIES.

I WILL CALL, UH, JAMIE LILLY.

DID HE EVENIN, FIRST OF ALL, TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT.

I'M HERE WITH CIVIL HOMEOWNERS FROM THE NELSON'S GRANT COMMUNITY.

EXCUSE ME, MAY I HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? SORRY.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

I'M JAMIE LILLY.

I LIVE AT ONE 19 ELLERY STREET.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.

I'M HERE WITH, UH, SEVERAL HOMEOWNERS FROM THE NELSONS GRANT CONDO COMMUNITY, ASKING FOR HELP AS STOOD IN THE SAME POSITION, SAME SPOT, ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

TO POINT OUT MANY CONCERNS WE HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THESE CONCERNS STILL EXIST AND SOME HAVE EVEN GOTTEN WORSE.

SOME CONCERNS SUCH AS, UM, THE ROADS CONDITIONS, THE SIDEWALKS, THE PROXIMITY OF TREES TO THE LINE OF OUR STREETS IN OUR HOMES.

WE HAVE STANDING WATER BEHIND OUR GARAGES FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

WE HAVE CIVIL LIGHT POLES THAT ARE FALLING OVER.

ADDITIONALLY.

UM, CRA ARE ADDITIONALLY, OUR COA CANNOT GET SATISFACTORY RESPONSES FROM MERCER COA LEADER, WHICH IS A CONDO ASSOCIATION, UM, LEADER WHO ALSO REPRESENTS THE BUILDER, WHO IS STEVE MITCHELL, STEVE MILLER, EXCUSE ME.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL RECORDS OF OUR CONDO ASSOCIATIONS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCREPANCIES.

ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT DISCREPANCIES IS ONE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING A LOAN TO FINANCE HER CONDO AND ANOTHER ONE CAN'T EVEN GET FINANCING FOR THE CONDO DUE TO THE FACT THAT OUR RESERVE FUND HAS BEEN DEPLETED.

AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE OUR MONTHLY SEWER FEES THAT WE PAY ARE GOING.

SO I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR HELP.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY CAN MEET WITH US TO HELP US COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS AND RAISE, UH, RESOLUTIONS FOR OUR CONCERNS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, ROBERT LAKA, LASHER, SORRY, NAME ADDRESS.

THREE MINUTES.

MA'AM GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN.

HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT BOUCHER, ONE 11,000 STREET.

YOURTOWN UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME, UH, FOR GETTING FROM MY TIME COMING STRAIGHT FROM

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WORK.

UM, I'M A RESIDENT OF NELSON'S GRANT, UH, MOVED IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

THE AESTHETICS OF THE PROPERTY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY THE CONSTRUCTION SHORTCOMING.

UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY REGULATORS OF THE LOCAL CODE.

I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT OR A DEVELOPER, BUT I DO KNOW CONSTRUCTION AREA.

WHEN I SEE IT, UH, STUCK NAPPY 26 TO 20 INCHES APART, THE INTERIOR RESIDENTS' HOMES SHOULD NOT BE WET WHEN IT RAINS BECAUSE WHEN WINDOWS WERE NOT INSTALLED SECURELY PIPES AND NEWLY CONSTRUCTED CONSTRUCTED HOMES THAT ARE ONLY A YEAR OLD SHOULD NOT BURST.

AND BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR IN OUR, IN OUR CASE, A CONDO CONDOM ON ASSOCIATION THAT WE PAY INTO, WHEN THESE ISSUES DO ARISE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE HEAD OF THE HOA OR THE COA AND USE TO PULL THE FUNDING THAT MS. JAMIE HAD MENTIONED, UH, TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES.

UM, THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR NELSONS GRANT RESIDENTS.

WE ARE INFORMED BY THE HEAD OF OUR COA THAT WE HAVE NO FUNDING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CRUDE SPREADSHEETS AND NOT CERTIFIED UP TO DATE ACCOUNTING.

WE HAVE NOTHING IN THE RESERVES IS WHAT WE'RE TOLD.

AND YET THE RESIDENTS WHO PAINTED THE COMMUNITY TO WATCH NELSON'S GRANT CONTINUED TO EXPAND AND DEVELOP.

SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW CAN IT CONTINUE TO DEVELOP WHEN THERE'S NO MONEY? AND ANOTHER QUESTION IS WHY LET IT CONTINUE? THE DAMAGES I MENTIONED EARLIER ARE VERY MUCH REAL BRAND NEW RESIDENTS IN HOMES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED LESS THAN A YEAR AGO AND MORE AND MORE HOMES GET CONTINUED TO GET BUILT BY NELSON'S GRANT.

THERE WERE MORE RELATED PROBLEMS WITH NEWER RESIDENTS, WONDERING WHY THEY'RE FEELING LIKE VICTIMS TO A REAL ESTATE SCHEME.

THAT AHEAD OF THE HOA REFUSE TO RESPOND TO INQUIRIES, WHICH LEADS CREDIBILITY TO THE ASSESSMENT THAT FUNDS ARE BEING MISAPPROPRIATED.

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS ONLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD, AND WE ARE DEALING WITH CRACKS ALONG THE SIDEWALKS.

THE DRAINAGE DIP THAT DRAINS THE WATER FROM OUR PROPERTY WAS POORLY CONSTRUCTED THAT IT DOES NOT EVEN DO ITS JOB TO THE POINT THAT I ASKED TO SEE YOUR WAY.

THEY SAY IT'S A CITY ISSUE.

AND THE CITY SAYS THEIR ISSUES.

SYCAMORE TREES GROW ABOUT TWO FEET PER YEAR AND MATURED.

IT CAN GROW 70 TO A HUNDRED FEET.

NOW, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRANCHES AND WHICH CAN BE MAINTAINED.

WHAT ABOUT THE ROOTS? THESE SYCAMORE TREES LINED THE ROADS ON THE SIZE OF NELSON'S GRANT AND STAND ONLY 10 FEET AWAY FROM OUR FRONT DOORS.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW UNTIL THE DAMAGES OF DESTROYS THE FOUNDATION AND PIPES OF ALL THE CITIZENS RESIDING INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE OFFERED TO REMOVE IT, HELP REPLACE IT, YOU KNOW, PULL OUR OWN FUNDING.

AND WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OTHERWISE WE'LL FACE MONETARY REPERCUSSIONS.

SO I ASKED WHAT CAN I, WHO, SO AS WHO CAN I HOLD ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THE NEXT NORTHEASTERN, WHEN BREAKS A BRANCH INTO MY CHILD'S WINDOW AND HE IS INJURED AND I GET NO ANSWER, IT IS CLEAR IN US AS GRANT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS IN A REQUEST TO EXPANSION, FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS, DISEASE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAN.

TIM CROSS FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANTHONY.

CLOSKY WHAT WOULD PROVE FAST? WHAT IS THIS? CAUSE HE HAVE ANY MORE MEMBERS.

MY NAME'S ANTHONY KOWALSKI.

YOU NEVER SAW IT AT ONE 13 ELLERY STREET IN THE DAWSON'S GRANT COMMUNITY IN YORKTOWN.

I'VE CURRENTLY LIVED AT THIS ADDRESS SINCE MARCH 1ST, 2018.

SO I'M COMING UP ON MY FOUR YEAR ANNIVERSARY THERE.

UM, I'M ATTENDING THIS MEETING NOT ONLY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, BUT THEN I WAS RESTARTING IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE THE CONSTRAINT, SAME CONCERN, BUT SOME OF THEM COULD MAKE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF, WE HAVE A FEW ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT CAN'T MAKE THE TRIP ALL THE TIME FOR US AND SUPPORT US.

UM, MY MAJOR CONCERN IS THE BUILDER AND THE COA IN THE UNKEPT PROMISES OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS THAT WERE MADE IN GOOD FAITH, BUT SOMEHOW UNKEPT.

UM, I'M ONE OF THE MANY THAT PROVIDED WAS PROVIDED A WALKTHROUGH LIST WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME AND NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN COMPLETED ON, ON THE ENTIRE LIST IN FOUR YEARS.

UM, I HAVE A SMALL LIST OF COMPARISON TO SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

UM, WE'RE GIVEN TIMES DATES, TIMELINES, AND NOTHING TO SHOW ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THE LIST CONTINUES TO GROW AND THE REPAIRS ARE GOING TO BE MORE COSTLY AS THE FUTURE ROLLS BY THE COA FEES INCREASED 10% AND EVERY YEAR SINCE I MOVED IN, BUT NO MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON, ON OUR UNITS, NO RESPONSES.

IT'S ONLY UNTIL WE ALL COMPLAIN TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THE COA COMPANY, AND THEN THEY SET UP A MEETING AND MAKE NEW PROMISES FOR BUDGETS AND THE CYCLE REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND WE GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE AGAIN.

SO, UM, I'M HOPING THAT THIS BUILDER HAS, UH, HAS NO REGARD, WELL, THIS BUILDER HAS NO REGARD FOR WORKMANSHIP AND GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICES AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BUILD ANY MORE CONSTRUCTION IN NELSON GRANT COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS SOME KIND OF HELP OR DIRECTION THAT WE CAN TAKE AND LOOK AND TRY TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

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I THINK WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE HAVEN'T CHAIR, BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK, IF, IF I COULD JUST TAKE THIS TIME AND I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE AT NELSON'S GRANT.

I KNOW HER ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, MR. BELLAMY LIVES OVER THERE.

AND I KNOW, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE AND, UH, GETTING SOME THINGS TAKEN CARE OF IF WE COULD GET TO GATHER MAYBE, UH, SOME FOLKS FROM BUILDING REGS AND, UH, UH, TALK ABOUT WHICH WAY WE CAN GO.

UH, AND IF ANY OF THESE ISSUES ARE ACTUALLY COUNTY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER, OR, UH, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER, UH, POTENTIAL REMEDIES, UH, TO THESE FOLKS AND MEDICARE, I WOULD RECOMMEND ALSO THAT WE INCLUDE, UH, MR. BARNETT IN THAT IN CASE THERE'S SOME, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, MAYBE SOME LEGAL ISSUES HERE THAT HE COULD PROVIDE SOME ADVICE FOR, UH, FOR THE GROUP, UH, UM, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

AND AS I SAID, WE WILL GO INTO BREAK RIGHT NOW.

THE BD IS BACK IN SESSION, AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON

[1 Application No. ZM-192-22, York County Board of Supervisors]

THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE TWO PARCELS OF LAND, AND ACTUALLY WHAT IT DOES.

IT'S THE LAYER THAT THE NEW FIRE, THE NEW SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUILDING IS GOING ON TILL, UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN, GOOD EVENING.

MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THIS APPLICATION IS A REZONING, UH, FOR THE 12 ACRE SITE OF THE NEW YORK TIKOSYN SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON GOODWIN NECK ROAD, UH, 1 59, 1 63 REZONING FROM LIMITED BUSINESS TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL.

YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF GOODWIN NECK ROAD.

IT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE MAP HERE REALLY CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY, SOME UNLIMITED BUSINESS THAT COUNTY OPERATIONS COMPLEX TO THE, UH, TO THE EAST ZONE LIMITED INDUSTRIAL, UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT CENTER TO THE WEST AND THE FORMER LANDFILL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT, COMPOSTING OF SILLY ZONED IGG TO THE REAR.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE OUR 20 RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF GOODWIN NICK ROAD.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS DRIVING THIS APPLICATION.

ONE IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REST OF THE OPERATIONS CENTER IS ONLY LIMITED INDUSTRIAL SINCE THE SHERIFF'S NEW SHERIFFS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE OPERATION CENTER.

IT MAKES SENSE FOR ALL OF THAT PROPERTY TO BE UNDER A SINGLE, UM, UH, AISLE ZONING DISTRICT.

UH, THE OTHER ISSUE WITH THIS APPLICATION IS THAT, UH, UNDER THE I L ZONING, UH, YOU CAN, UH, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS HIGHER 60 FEET VERSUS 35 FEET.

AND IT'LL BE SO HAPPENS THAT THE BUILDING AS IT'S BEEN DESIGNED IS 40 FEET HIGH.

AND SO, UH, THE ISLES ZONING WILL GIVE, UH, THE EXTRA FIVE FEET NEEDED.

UH, I FORGOT TO MENTION WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE THE BIRDS, UH, AUTO TOWING AUTO REPAIR FACILITY.

ALSO, I'M GOOD WHEN IT GROWS AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, AS A LEGAL MATTER, IT'S PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY, UH, FOR THIS REZONING TO TAKE PLACE.

UH, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THEIR OWN ZONING ORDINANCES.

HOWEVER, THE COUNTY FELT THERE WOULD, UH, OUGHT TO SET A GOOD EXAMPLE BY HOLDING ITSELF TO THE SAME STANDARD AS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UH, THIS ACCOUNT, THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED ACTUALLY BY THE COUNTY.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN OLD PICTURE, UH, AERIAL PHOTO FROM 2017.

IT'S A, SITE'S BEEN CLEARED NOW.

IT'S MAYBE DRIVEN DOWN GOODWIN THAT GREW YOU CAN'T MISS IT.

UM, AND, UH, AND HERE'S A MORE RECENT PICTURE FROM THE STREET.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE BUILDING A HUNDRED CONSTRUCTION, UM, THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE BUILDING.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS, UH, A COUPLE OF ENTRANCES, ACTUALLY.

ONE IS JUST THE RIGHT TURN EXIT, UH, OVER TO THE WEST AND THEN TO THE EAST IS A FULL ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON GOODWIN ROAD.

AND THERE'LL BE RIGHT TURN LANE LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE FACILITY AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE'S A, UH, RATHER LARGE BUILDING ABOUT 51,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND A PATROL GARAGE BUILDING TO THE REAR AND, UH, SHOWN ON HERE IS A FUTURE WAREHOUSE BUILDING.

THERE ARE NO POINTS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT, UH, AT THIS TIME, BUT IT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN.

UM,

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THERE ARE NO IMMEDIATE PLANS TO DO THAT.

CAUSE AT THIS POINT, JUST DOING THAT SEGMENT, THE WALKWAY WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

UM, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT A STORMWATER POND.

UH, ALSO IT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND HERE'S WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE, UH, ATTRACTIVE, UH, BUILDING.

AND AS I SAID, IT'S ABOUT 51,000 SQUARE FEET, TWO STORY BUILDING A 40 FOOT BUILDING HEIGHT.

AND I MENTIONED THE PATROL GARAGE, A STORAGE BUILDING.

SO AS I SAID, UH, UH, THE REZONING WOULD MAKE IT, MAKE THIS PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE OPERATION CENTER AND WOULD ALSO PROVIDE FOR THE NECESSARY BUILDING HEIGHT.

UH, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL ORDINANCE 22 DASH FOUR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION IN JANUARY AND VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD.

RIGHT MR. .

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT SUBJECT TO THEIR OWN ZONING ORDINANCES, CORRECT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO IF I VOTE, NO, WHEN EVERYBODY VOTES NO TONIGHT ON THIS APPLICATION, YOU CAN STILL GO AHEAD AND BUILD.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE, UH, ATTORNEY CSR, BUT WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN AT THIS IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, FROM THE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT SITE, UH, HAVE LOOKED AT WOODS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND NOW THEY'RE SUBJECT TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND TO SEE IN A CLEARED, UH, SITE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, UH, PREVENT THE NOISE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM COMPLETELY HAPPY, BUT ANY KIND OF REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WE CAN DO ON THAT SITE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, TO THE FOLKS ACROSS THE STREET, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

AND I WILL, I WILL SUPPORT THIS, UH, REZONING.

UH, IF YOU AGREE TO THAT, UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY POWER, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND AGREE ON, ON THE HALF OF THE COUNTY, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

IT IS A TALL BUILDING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FILLING THAT SITE AND IT WILL BE LANDSCAPING PUT IN AS CONSTRUCTION MOVES ALONG, EVENTUALLY CONSTRUCTION NOISE WILL GO AWAY.

OBVIOUSLY YOU DO HAVE THAT IN A CLEARED AREA BETWEEN, UH, THE COMPOST FACILITY AND THE HOME IS ON GOODWIN NECK ROAD, BUT THEY WILL BE SHIELDED BY THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH HAS A FOOTPRINT OF ABOUT 40, 40,000 SQUARE FEET.

UH, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT PROBABLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT PUBLIC FACILITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, COUNTY, GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.

SO AS FAR AS THE USE GOES, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S LB OR IO.

UNDERSTOOD.

THE, UH, THE TWO PARCELS IN QUESTION THEY ALREADY OWNED BY THE COUNTY, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND MAKING THIS CHANGE, GIVEN THAT THE SERVICE NEW SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT'S GOING ON THE ONE PARCEL OF THE PARCEL GOING TO BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BNP AND SO FORTH IS PRETTY MUCH LOCKS.

IS THESE TWO PARCELS INTO THIS ZONE IN CONFIGURATION? PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT FOUR DECADES? UH, YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A, NOT, NOT A LOT OF LEFTOVER LAND WHEN YOU, UH, ESPECIALLY IF, IF THAT A WAREHOUSE BUILDING TO A REAR, YOU KNOW, GETS BUILT.

UM, I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S GOING TO LAST THE COUNTY FOR A GOOD LONG WHILE.

I'M THINKING IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE, IF NOT A CALL FOR A MOTION, UM, MOVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH FOUR, THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 DASH FOUR TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA.

MR. GREEN.

MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. MS. SNOW.

UH, PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE, HAVE TO DEAL WITH TOURISTS, BUT BEFORE I STRIKE THEM, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR A FEW COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, DIANE.

UH, THE NEXT TWO,

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS (Part 1 of 2)]

UH, THANK YOU, MS. SNOW.

UM, IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING TIRED OF TOURISTS HOME CASES.

UM, AND, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT AND RELATIVE TO LAND USE CASES OF OTHER TYPES, UM, IT HAS BEEN, UH, ONE OF THE MORE COMMON THINGS, UH, BUT I WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT THIS BOARD ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AS REVIEWED, UH, HOW WE HANDLED TOURIST HOMES, WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

WE'VE HAD TWO POLICY REVIEWS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES, WHICH I THINK ARE SIGNIFICANT.

YOUR BASIC DIRECTION HAS BEEN,

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UH, WE WANT TO BALANCE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE ONLY PRACTICAL WAY TO DO THAT IS FOR THEM TO COME TO YOU AND BE DECIDED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS YOU KEEP HAVING CASES.

UM, WE HAVE MADE A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT CHANGES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT YOU NOW SEE IN ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I THINK THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE LONG-TERM IS THAT WE NOW DO NOT ALLOW THE USE CHANGE TO RUN WITH THE PROPERTY.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT, IT TAKES OUT THE HOUSE FLIPPER, SPECULATIVE ASPECT OF THESE TRANSACTIONS.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WE'VE ALSO TAKEN THE POSITION THAT A RESPONSIBLE PARTY HAS TO BE CLOSE BY.

UH, SOME YEARS AGO, I THINK WE APPROVED A COUPLE WHERE THERE REALLY WASN'T, UH, AN OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE NEARBY, UH, BUT NONE OF THE RECENT ONES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED FOR, UH, DO NOT HAVE THE FEATURE OF SOMEBODY LIVING IN REASONABLE PROXIMITY.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE TWO MEANINGFUL CHANGES, HONESTLY, THE STAFF AND I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE COME TO YOU EITHER.

UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROPERTY RIGHTS WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE CASES AND JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE.

CAUSE I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT, UH, SINCE 2015 THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF 27 TOURIST TAM CASES, 12 HAVE BEEN APPROVED, UH, EIGHT HAVE BEEN DENIED AND OTHERS ARE IN VARIOUS STATES OF PENDING.

AND THAT'S OUT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING UNITS IN THE COUNTY OF 26,500.

SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. PARKER.

NOW I THINK IT'S YOUR TURN CHAIRMAN.

I JUST WONDER IF WE MAKE COMMENT BASED ON HIS INPUT.

UM, NEIL, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I APPRECIATE THE STAFF STRUCK, UH, UH, TO WORK THEY HAVE TO DO ON IT.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT TIRED OF HEADINGS.

IS THIS AN APPLICATION FOR A TOURIST HOME, UH, TO BE LOCATED IN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING AT 1 44, 5 PENNAMEN ROAD? YUP.

AND THE REASON I'M NOT IS THAT, UM, THIS IS, UH, I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S, IT'S NEW.

IT'S MAY NOT BE NEW TO MYRTLE BEACH MAY NOT BE NEW TO SOUTH CAROLINA, FLORIDA, BUT IT'S NEW IN, UM, YOUR COUNTY.

AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO OVER TIME IS WHAT WE'RE LEARNING A LITTLE BIT EACH TIME AS TO WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

UM, THERE'S YEAH, THERE MAY BE 26,000 HOMES HERE, BUT THERE'S 70,000 PEOPLE AND ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS DIFFER.

UH, AND WHAT I SEE THIS, THESE THINGS HAVE A TENDENCY TO CHANGE KEN AND, AND WILL CHANGE THE CULTURE IF YOU WILL.

UH, AND THE STRUCTURE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO UNTIL WE REACH A POINT WHERE THIS BOARD, NOT JUST US, BUT THE FOLLOWING BOARDS MATURE TO A POINT OF UNDERSTANDING AND WITH THE COMMUNITY, THESE THINGS ARE, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE SAID, WE NEED TO HEAR IT AND WE NEED TO STUDY THEM.

SO I'M FOR ONE TO JUST KEEP THESE THINGS COMING AND WE'LL DO THE JOB THAT WE WERE LIKE YOU TO DO.

THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD.

I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD DECISION NEIGHBORS HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO NEIGHBORS AND IT'S WHAT THEY THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE YES, PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE THERE AND WE CAN'T IGNORE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE GO ON AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN? THANK YOU.

[2 Application No. UP-974-21, Bryan Randall]

SO VICINITY MAP, UH, AT THE AREA IT'S LOCATED JUST WEST OF THE, UM, 1 99 I 64 INTERCHANGE OFF OF PENNIMAN ROAD.

UH APPLICANT'S IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE, UH, TO THE SIDE AND WEST OR LEFT TO THE REAR.

AND, UH, THE SIDE IS A MINIS COMMON AREA, UH, SUBDIVISION, COMMON AREA.

UH, TWO ADJACENT ON THE RIGHT HERE, UH, IS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT'S MOTHER'S HOME.

AND SHE IS, UH, IS GOING TO BE CO-MANAGER OF THE TOURIST BUSINESS.

UM, WITH THE APPLICANT ACROSS PENNIMAN ROAD IS THE U S NAVY RAILROAD, WHICH IS OUT OF SERVICE CURRENTLY.

AND BEYOND THAT, THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK.

SO MAP OF, UH, THERE ARE TWO OTHER, UH, EXISTING APPROVED TOURIST HOMES, UH, IN THIS AREA, THE COUNTY, THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTIES CIRCLED IN RED ON PENNIMAN.

THERE IS ONE ON DUNKIN DRIVE IN YORK TERRORISTS.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.4 DRIVING, UH, 1.4 MILES DRIVING DISTANCE, AND THEN ANOTHER OFF, UH, IN THE NELSON CIRCLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ON EDL AVENUE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILES DRIVING, DISTANCE ZONING.

OTHER PROPERTY ARE 13 HIGH DENSITY,

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RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ACROSS PENNIMAN.

AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK.

UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MANAGEMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT.

BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT, AT THE TIME WE DID OUR ARCHITECTURAL, UH, RESOURCES, HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY IN 2001, IT WAS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD, UH, BUT IT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY, UM, STATE OR NATIONAL REGISTER LISTING.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL SCENARIO, UH, OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, UH, APPLICANTS, PROPERTY CIRCLED IN RED, A NOTE THAT HEAVY, UH, WOODED AREA, UM, BETWEEN THEM AND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE RAILROAD.

AND WHAT DID AREA THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PROPERTY, AND THEN JUST THE CLOSEUP OF THE ARIEL.

SO PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE AREA, UH, THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON PENNIMAN ROAD, APPLICANT'S PROPERTY TO THE LEFT AND LOOKING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

UH, APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS THE BLUE HOUSE, UH, TO THE RIGHT AND HIS MOM'S HOUSE.

UH, JUST BEYOND THAT AND, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME DOWN BELOW.

AND OF COURSE HE OVERPASSES 64 AND LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET TOWARD THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE RAILROAD LOOKING AT THE SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING RENOVATIONS AND OPPOSITE SIDE, LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PROPERTY.

AND I WOULDN'T KNOW, THE WHITE SHED YOU SEE THERE IN THE BACKGROUND IS ACTUALLY IN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PROPERTY.

THAT'S NOT ON A SPECIFIC GUN.

HOMEOWNERS LOCK WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF DISTANCE AND ANOTHER SHOT LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AND TO THE REAR, THE, UH, CONCRETE CYLINDER YOU SEE THERE IS A PRIVATE WELL, AND I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THAT LITTLE MORE DETAILED AS SERVED BY PRIVATE.

WELL, YEAH.

NOW THIS IS A SURVEY SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

A NOTE, THE WEALTH FACILITIES IN THE BACK, WE ARE PROPOSING IN APPROVAL CONDITION.

UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARDS WOULDN'T HAVE PRIVATE WELL OR PRIVATE SEPTIC, UM, THAT THERE WOULD BE A VERIFICATION FROM PENINSULA HEALTH DISTRICT THAT THE WELL IS, UH, OPERATING, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATIONS BEFORE THE USE COMMENCES A SKETCH MAP OF THE AREA.

UH, AS I NOTED, UH, THE CO-MANAGER OF THE TOURIST HOME WILL BE LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR AT 1447, UM, FOUR PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, UH, FOR THIS YOUTH THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM IN THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

IT'S THE APPLICANT SKETCH PLAN.

IT'S A SMALL HOUSE.

IT'S ONLY 600 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BATHROOM KITCHEN, AND A COMBINATION OF FAMILY AND DINING ROOM ON ONE FLOOR IN SUMMARY, 600 SQUARE FOOT.

SINGLE STORY DWELLING WOULD BE WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL ONLY, NO RENTAL LIVE INDIVIDUAL BEDROOMS MAXIMUM OF FOUR GUESTS AT ANY ONE TIME, A MANAGER WOULD RESIDE AT THE ADJACENT PREMISES WHILE IT WAS BEING RENTED.

STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THAT TRAFFIC WOULD BE AN ISSUE HERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, TRIP GENERATION MANUAL.

YOU'RE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING GENERATES AN AVERAGE OF 9.4 VEHICLE TRIPS A DAY.

THEY DON'T HAVE A CATEGORY FOR A TOURIST HOMES.

THE NEXT CLOSEST THING A TIME SHARE WOULD BE 8.6.

SO ACTUALLY A LITTLE ASS AND A HOTEL ROOM 4.4 TRIPS PER DAY.

UH, THIS SECTION OF PEDIMENT ROAD, UH, ACCORDING TO VITA ESTIMATES, UH, HAS A 2,900 AVERAGE VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY.

AND, UH, THAT THE SUP WOULD EXPIRE UPON CHANGE AND OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROPERTY OR IN CHANGE OF, OF THE, UH, MANAGERS REGISTERED INTO THE ADJACENT DWELLING CONCLUSION.

WE FEEL THE OPERATIONS CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TOWARDS HOME.

AS I NOTED THE MANAGER WOULD BE IN THE ADJACENT DWELLING DURING THE RENTALS.

WE DON'T FEEL THERE WOULD BE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE SMALL SIZE OF THE HOME WOULD MAKE IT A SMALL SCALE OPERATION.

AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION 22 DASH 25.

AND THANK YOU FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH, WELL, UH, BRIAN RANDALL IS HERE TODAY.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE OR HE IS HERE.

RENTAL? I GUESS IT COULD BE RENTED FOR LONG TERM, JUST AS A RENTAL, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO LET'S GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR SURE.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARKER, THE HOUSE ITSELF INSTEAD OF A SHORT-TERM

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OKAY, MS. PARK REAL QUICK.

UH, THERE'S A WELL ON THE PROPERTY, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE RS IT ON SEWER.

THANKS, MR. BROWN, CAN YOU GO BACK THE PICTURE? ONE OF THE PICTURES OF THE SATELLITE OVER YOU PLEASE? PROBABLY THE ZOOM NOTE.

ONE QUESTION.

UM, NO, THE ONE BEFORE THAT, I THINK, YEAH.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHERE THE COMMON AREA THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION COMMON AREA IS? IS IT THIS SLOT HERE? OKAY.

SO IT'S THE PART THAT'S NOT COVERED BY THE TREES AND THE CORNER THAT IS UNDER THE TREE COVER.

UM, THIS, THIS, UH, YOU MEAN THAT SECTION THERE THAT'S PART OF THE HOMEOWNERS, SO KIND OF SURROUNDS THE, TO THE, UH, THE TWO.

SO IT'S THE OPEN AREA? NOT, NOT THE AREA UNDER THE TREES.

WELL, YEAH, THERE'S TREES ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK.

BUT THE COMMON AREA INCLUDES THE, THE OPEN AREA AS WELL.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO IS THIS HOME IN A, IN A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION? NO.

SO IT'S JUST THE CARVED OUT AROUND, I'M LOOKING AT THE WHITE SPOT OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE WHITE LINE IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

ON YOUR MAP, YOU GOT TO THE RED SQUARE IS THE PROPERTY RED SQUARES, RIGHT PROPERTY.

EXCELLENT.

OVER IS HIS GOT THAT.

AND THEN THE WHITE, ALL THAT WOODED AREA IN THE BACK, I CAN HEAR HIS HOA.

THIS IS A VACANT PARCEL.

GOT IT.

NOW, OKAY.

NOW FOR THE, FOR OUR LISTENING PUBLIC, I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.

THIS IS A TOURIST HOME.

TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS, UM, AND A, UH, A DETACHED DETACHED MOTHER-IN-LAW HOUSE.

ACCESSORY APARTMENT.

UM, IT'S CONSIDERED ACCESSORY TO A RESIDENTIAL USE.

UH, IT, IT CAN'T BE A SEPARATE, CAN'T BE RENTED OUT SEPARATELY FROM THE HOUSE THAT HAS TO BE ON THE SAME PROPERTY.

FOR YEARS, HIS BOARD HAS DENIED THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF STRUCTURES.

UH, AND PROBABLY ABOUT A DECADE AGO, WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT.

PEOPLE WERE COMING UP AND THEN WE MADE THEM ATTACHED.

SO HOW'S THIS DIFFERENT FROM A, UH, A BOARDING HOUSE BOARDING HOUSE WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IN WHICH MULTIPLE ROOMS ARE RENTED OUT.

AND HOW WOULD THIS DIFFER FROM A TIMESHARE? I'M NOT A TIMESHARE, BUT YEAH, FROM TIMESHARE TIME SHARE, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH RUN LIKE A HOTEL, EXCEPT THAT IT'S, THERE'S A CONDO ASSOCIATION USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM IF THEY TELL YOU BREAKFAST.

WELL, WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS EACH ONE OF THESE REPRESENT SOME TYPE OF A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, RELATED NOT NECESSARILY, BUT CAN BE, ARE, UH, HAVE, UH, UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT RULES THAT APPLY TO, TO A SET OF THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF STRUCTURES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THE RIGHT THING.

SO NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THIS, THIS PROPERTY WILL, CAN BE RENTED TO THE SAME PERSON UP TO 90 DAYS.

AND THAT MAKES IT A TOURIST HOME, HOW IT IS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DIDN'T DEATH, DIDN'T SAY BED AND BREAKFAST.

SO HOW'S THIS DIFFERENT, THE BED BREAKFAST, UH, THE OPERATOR HAS TO BE ON OR ADJACENT TO THE PREMISE AND YOU GET BREAKFAST.

I MEAN, THAT'S SO H SO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE AND MORE ABOUT THESE VARIOUS THINGS THAT COME UP FRONT OF THE BOARD.

UM, SO THERE NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HERE, UM, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY INPUT FROM ANY BODY IN THE AREA CONCERNING THIS PROPOSAL? I GET A LETTER, UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, UM, FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR KIT AS AN ATTACHMENT.

UH, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING FROM A NON ASSOCIATION? NO, WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE.

UM, W DIDN'T SOMEBODY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPEAK? IT'S A NIGHTMARE? UM, WELL, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE ABOUT, UM, TOWARDS TOMES AND GEN.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A NEIGHBOR, AN ADJACENT PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE BOOK THAT TURNED THE PLANET.

SORRY.

THAT WASN'T A WRITTEN.

THAT WAS ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK.

COULD YOU GO BACK, GO TO THE CLOSE-UP SLIDE THE NEXT ONE OVER NOW? YEAH.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY TYPE OF BARRIER VEGETATIVE, ARTIFICIAL FENCE, ANYTHING THAT SEPARATES THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY

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AND THE COMMON AREA.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WOULD YOU CAMP THERE PLEASE? COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

MY NAME IS BRIAN RANDALL ADDRESS? 1445 PENNIMAN ROAD, WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA, 2 3 1 8 5.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? SURE.

UM, SO WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UM, I'VE OWNED THAT HOUSE SINCE 2008.

UH, MY MOTHER LEAVES ADJACENT TO THAT HOUSE.

I GREW UP IN THE HOUSE ADJACENT, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, UM, VERY QUIET AREA, UM, NEVER TOO MUCH GOING ON.

UM, BESIDE, AS YOU SEE, I'M CURRENTLY MAKING SOME RENOVATIONS TO THE HOME.

THE HOME WAS BUILT LIKE IN 1936.

SO BASICALLY, BASICALLY I REDONE THE WHOLE HOUSE, UH, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT MORE UP-TO-DATE.

UH, THE REASON I DECIDED TO LOOK INTO, UM, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, IN OPPOSED TO RENTING IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NEW WAY OF GOING ON, UM, WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

AND A LOT OF SOMETIMES WITH DEALING WITH, UH, RENTALS, AS FAR AS WITH LONG-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE'S A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE, UM, THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO I THOUGHT THIS WILL BE A GOOD, FUN THING FOR ME AND MY WIFE TO LOOK INTO, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER.

UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND, UM, I'M JUST HOPING THAT, UH, YOU WOULD PASS IT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL SO WE CAN GET IT UP AND RUNNING THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO YOU'VE SEEN THAT RENTING IT LONG TERM, UH, VISA SHORT-TERM RENTAL WOULD COST YOU MORE MAINTENANCE WISE THAN THE SHORT-TERM.

UM, I THINK THAT OVER TIME DEALING WITH, UM, RESIDENTS ITSELF, THAT'S A LONG-TERM THING SOMETIMES CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY DEPENDING ON WHO YOUR RESIDENTS IS.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE HOUSE MAY BE CLOSE, MAY NOT BE VERY, A LOT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS THE WEAR AND TEAR GOES THE, THE UPKEEP, UH, WITH THE HOUSE AS FAR AS ONLY APPLIANCES AND THEN THE HOME ITSELF, THE WEAR AND TEAR.

UM, BUT THERE'S NO, NO GUARANTEED WAY TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU LIVE.

I LIVE IN NEWPORT NEWS, RIGHT ON FOUR USES BOULEVARD, ORDINARY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS YOUR MOM HERE TOO? NO, SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. RANDALL.

MY QUESTION WAS THIS, UH, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE MANAGING IT, BUT YOUR MOM'S GOING TO BE NEXT DOOR, CORRECT.

SO SHE'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE MANAGING, SHE'S JUST GONE, JUST GOING TO OVERSEE I'M I'M ONLY, I'M ONLY ABOUT 10 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE HOME.

SO MY COMMUTE IS 10 MINUTES LITERALLY.

SO, UH, MR. RANDALL, AND YOUR, UM, YOUR IDEA OF DOING THIS IN RESPONSE TO MR. QUESTION, UM, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, HAVE YOU HAD, THERE WAS, UNLESS YOU'RE VERY CAREFUL WITH WHO YOU PUT IN A HOUSE.

A RENTAL HOUSE, YOU CAN HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THEM OUT.

AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE YOU WOULD NOT RIGHT.

YOUR, YOUR, WHATEVER, THE PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE, FOR THE RENT, AND THEN THEY DON'T PAY THE RENT.

YOU'RE GONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

SO THE TIME IS UP AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS TO PAY US UP FRONT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVE TO TRACK THEM DOWN FOR THE PAY OR YOU DIDN'T PAY, YOU HAVE TO GET OUT WITHOUT PAYING, YOU KNOW, SO THE PAY WOULD BE UPFRONT AND THEREFORE THERE'LL BE A TIME LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY COULD STAY TO WHERE OTHER THAN TRACKING DOWN RENT EVERY MONTH, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY THE RENT, THEN WE'RE LOOKING INTO ILLEGAL THINGS.

SO IN YOUR, SO WE HAD A LOT OF THESE COME UP FRONT OF US, OBVIOUSLY.

SO IT CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, UM, HAS ANYONE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE THAT YOUR TAXES MIGHT GO UP BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING, UH, WHEN THE, ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WAS THE HOTEL, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND A HOTEL, YOU GOT TO PAY TAXES ON THE, UM, ON THE, UH, PEOPLE STAY IN THERE, THE INCOME, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND SO YOU'VE TAKEN THAT, UH, HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHETHER THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE ASSESSED AT A HIGHER TAX RATE BECAUSE IT'S BEING TREATED AS A HOTEL? NO, SIR.

I HAVEN'T SPOKE TO ANYONE ABOUT THAT, BUT I AM AWARE OF DEFINITELY THE TAXES ARE GOING TO BE ON THE INCOME THAT'S COMING TO THAT HOUSE.

AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY AS WELL.

GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MR. RANDALL.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS READING SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND AT LEAST ONE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAD CONCERNS ABOUT BASED ON WHAT I LOOKED AT THERE WAS THERE'S NO, ANY, THERE ISN'T A BARRIER BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THE COMMON AREA

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HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE MAKING SURE YOUR GUESTS DON'T WANDER TO ALL OF YOUR PROPERTY IN THE TWO ADJACENT PROPERTY LIKE THAT? THAT'S WHAT REALLY, MY BIG STEP IS GOING TO BE TO SET RULES.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, FOR ANYBODY THAT'S DECIDED TO RENT THE PROPERTY, I MEAN, THERE'LL BE A LIST OF RULES THAT WILL BE SET.

UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T POLICE THE RULES, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN OFFICER, BUT, UM, JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING, IF YOU'RE RENTING IT, I MEAN THE SAME THING APPLIES.

YOU TRY TO APPLY THESE RULES, GIVE THEM THESE RULES.

UM, AND YOU HOPE THAT THEY ABIDE BY, THEY DON'T TEAR UP YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR HOUSE.

UM, AS FAR AS IT GOES IN THE BACKYARD, I UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE COMMON AREA.

THERE'S NO FENCE BACK THERE.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A FENCE BACK THERE.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING A FENCE BACK THERE UNTIL THIS, THIS CAME UP.

UM, IF YOU LOOKED ON THE TOP VIEW, YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE WOODS WHERE THE WOODS PRETTY MUCH COVER.

UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT THE HOUSE AND BASICALLY GO AROUND THE WOODS IN ORDER TO PRETTY MUCH SEE THE OTHER PROPERTY.

SO I'LL WALK INTO OTHER PROPERTIES.

I MEAN, IF YOU CAME OUT THE STREET STRAIGHT OUT THE BACK DOOR, OF COURSE, IF YOU KEPT WALKING STRAIGHT, YOU COULD SEE THE LITTLE OUTHOUSE IN THE BACK.

YOU GO WALK STRAIGHT TOWARDS THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS LIKE VIEW AND EVERYTHING, WHEN YOU COME OUT THE HOUSE, YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO WALK OUT PAST THE WOODED AREA REALLY TO SEE THE OTHER HOUSES.

SO WHEN I TOLD THEM I'M IN THE LAST MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE WAS A ISSUE WITH A GATE, THEN I THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD PUT UP A GATE.

IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO, I PUT UP A FENCE, BUILT A FENCE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT BUILDING A FENCE OR VEGETATIVE BURY OUT YOURSELF.

YOU'RE SO TAKE AWAY ALSO IS THAT YOUR MOTHER'S GOING TO HELP YOUR STRATEGY, HAVE YOUR MOTHER TO HELP YOU KEEP EYES ON PROPERTY.

AND I GUESS, GIVE YOU A SHOUT IF ISSUES COME UP, IF THERE'S A SERVICES AND SO FORTH, AND THEN YOU WOULD RESPOND TO IT.

SO YOUR MOTHER'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME THAT THE PROPERTIES RENT IT FOR THE DURATION OF THAT, OF THAT RENTAL.

AND YOU KNOW, SHE SHE'S, UH, SHE'S NEXT DOOR.

SO, I MEAN, IT MAKES IT EASIER BEFORE THE OVERSEE, BUT I'M DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO PUT HER IN A SITUATION WHERE IF I HAVE SOMEBODY AT THAT HOUSE THAT I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT ABANDONED TO WHERE I CAN'T MAKE IT THERE MYSELF.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T PUT MY MOTHER IN THAT SITUATION.

LET'S SEE SCROLLING A G AND I'VE GOT A FEW.

SO, SO YOU SAY YOU LIVE OVER IN NEWPORT NEWS, 10 MINUTES AWAY.

YES, SIR.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR AVAILABILITY TO RE RESPOND OR DO YOU, DOES YOUR, DOES YOUR JOB GIVE YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND? IF YOU NEED TO? I NEEDED TO RESPOND YOURSELF.

I HAVE THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY WITH MY JOB.

AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE AS SEEING ON A LAST FOR MOTION FOR RESOLUTION OUR 22 DASH 25 FOR A RESOLUTION OR 20 TO 25? YES.

MA'AM THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMBA IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION OUR 22 DASH 25 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. GREEN.

AND THE NEXT APPLICATION,

[3 Application No. UP-975-21, Pablo Campero Rojas]

YES, THANK YOU.

NO.

SO THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TOURIST HOME AND AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING LOCATED AT 3 0 6 YORK DOWNS DRIVE.

IF GRANTED THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE ONE BEDROOM IN HIS HOME AVAILABLE TO GUESTS, UH, THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOLLOWING ISSUANCE OF A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN AUGUST OF 2021 FOR OPERATING A TOURIST HOME WITHOUT AN APPROVED, SPECIAL, SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

AT THE TIME, THE NOTICE WAS ISSUED.

THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN LISTED ON THE AIRBNB WEBSITE.

THE LISTING HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED.

THE 0.3 ACRE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ACROSS YORK DOWNS DRIVE FROM THE YORKSHIRE DOWNS, COMMUNITY CLUBHOUSE POOL AND TENNIS COURT.

THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST HOUSES AT YOUR COUNTY PUMP STATION TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE BOTH SINGLE FAMILY.

DETACHED HOMES.

THREE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.

THE EXISTING PAVED DRIVEWAY ON THE PROPERTY CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF SPACES.

THERE'S ALSO AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE.

THIS FLOOR PLAN SHOWS THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE HOME.

GUESTS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE KITCHEN AND DINING ROOM.

ON THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU CAN SEE THE ROOM AND BATHROOM DESIGNATED FOR GUESTS.

THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.

THE HOMEOWNERS WILL BE PRESENT EVERY TIME THE ROOM IS RENTED.

THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY IS TWO GUESTS AT ANY ONE TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED HE WILL HAVE NO SIGNS ADVERTISING THE TOURIST HOME ON THE

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PROPERTY.

AND THE USE PERMIT WOULD EXPIRE UPON THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

THERE ARE NO APPROVED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN YORKSHIRE DOWNS.

THE NEAREST APPROVED TOURIST HOME IS LOCATED ON CALL THREE OF NECK ROAD, WHICH IS A DRIVING DISTANCE OF FIVE MILES FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SO WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE YORKSHIRE DOWNS BOARD, A COPY OF WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.

THE EMAIL ASKS THAT YOU DENY THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE COMMUNITY'S DECLARATION OF COVENANTS.

THE COUNTY CAN NOT BE A PARTY TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF PRIVATE COVENANTS.

IT MUST EVALUATE REQUESTS FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ITS STANDARDS.

HOWEVER, APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD NOT RELIEVE THE HOMEOWNERS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO COMPLY WITH ANY SUCH COVENANTS.

YOU ALSO RECEIVED A REVISED VERSION OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, WHICH INCLUDES A CONDITION STATING THIS POINT, ASIDE FROM THIS EMAIL, WE RECEIVED NO CITIZEN COMMENTS NOR HEARD ANY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

IN REGARD TO THIS APPLICATION, GIVEN THAT THE TOURIST HOME WOULD BE A ONE BEDROOM RENTAL WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO GUESTS AT A TIME, STAFF BELIEVED THE PROPOSED TOURS HOME WOULD HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT.

THE FACT THAT THE OWNERS WOULD RESIDE IN THE DWELLING WHILE RENTALS ARE TAKING PLACE AND SHARES THE GUESTS BEHAVIOR WOULD BE MONITORED.

FURTHERMORE, THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY SHORT TERM RENTAL IN YORKSHIRE DOWNS, A DEVELOPMENT OF MORE THAN 400 HOMES EXCLUDING THE APARTMENTS.

AND THERE ARE NO OTHERS IN THE GENERAL AREA FOR THESE REASONS.

STAFF BELIEVED THE PROPOSED TOURISM WOULD NOT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEARBY PROPERTIES OR ON THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER ARE 22 DASH 26.

UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION ON DECEMBER 8TH AND VOTED FOR TO, TO, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

I BELIEVE IT'S AN R YES, IT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OUTLET FOR THE STAFF? THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE 400 HOUSES WORTH OF RESIDENCE.

ASIDE FROM THE HOA, WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS AGAINST THE HOA, ASKED YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION BASED ON THEIR DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AT WHAT PRECLUDES THE HOA FROM ENFORCING THOSE DECLARATIONS THROUGH THE LAW, NOTHING.

SO THEY'D RATHER HAVE THE COUNTY DENY THE APPLICATION INSTEAD OF SPENDING SOME MONEY TO GO TO COURT, TO DENY THE APPLICATION.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE HOA REPRESENTS 400 HOUSES OR SO, RIGHT.

UM, THERE DUES PAYING HOMES LIKE ANY ATRIAL WAY AND THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT EVERYBODY SIGNED ON TO IS PART OF WHAT THE HOA MONITORS AND SORT OF OVERSEE OVERSEAS.

SO IF THERE'S A VIOLATION OF THE HOA, A COUNTY ASIDE, UH, DOES IT HAVE THE PREROGATIVE OF SUING THE, THE F THE, UH, THE PABLO CAPITALISTS RO ROJAS TO PRECLUDE, TO, TO ENSURE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS? I BELIEVE SO.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN ANSWER.

YES, CERTAINLY THEY CAN.

AND I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE COULD SPEAK FOR THE HOA OR PRESUME THEIR MOTIVES, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, UM, I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT WITH IT TO THE EXTENT THAT THEIR COVENANTS ALLOW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I ASSUME THEY DO THEN OF COURSE THEY CAN ENFORCE THEM.

CAN YOU GO BACK AND PUT THE SLIDE UP THAT SHOWS, UM, WHERE THIS HOUSE IS LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? OKAY.

NOW YOU CAN'T DRAW BACK ON THIS CANE, OR DO YOU HAVE A ONE IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK THAT IT SHOWS WHERE, OKAY.

LOOK.

YES, I DO.

AND AS DERBY RUN OUT THERE, OKAY.

WHAT THIS, UH, HERE'S THE PROBLEM THAT THIS IS KIND OF INTERESTING AND IT KIND OF GOES TO WHAT, UH, WALT WAS TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE'S THE HOUSE HERE.

THERE IT IS.

NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.

THIS IS IN THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, WHAT WE DO IS, UH, WE GO OUT THERE AND WE TAKE A, KIND OF A YELLOWISH ORANGE LOOKING SIGN, AND WE STICK IT ON THE PROPERTY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS PROPERTY IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING UP BEFORE THE BOARD BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUE.

THAT'S WHAT OUR STAFF DOES.

ITS WORK OF.

YOU SEE ALL THOSE HOMES ON THE RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE ASSOCIATION, YOU SEE ALL THOSE HOMES ON THE LEFT OVER THERE.

AND HE ASSOCIATES DIFFERENT KINDS OF ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY'RE ALL PART OF IT.

THEY DON'T SEE, DON'T GO BY THIS HOUSE AND THEY DON'T SEE THAT SIGN.

AND SO ONE OF THE ISSUES OF, OF THESE THINGS, UM, THAT CAN CAUSE A PROBLEM IS THAT IT GOES IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND

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SOME, THE APPLICANT KNOWS ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT 90%, 99% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

UM, AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED, THE REASON I POINT THIS OUT IS THAT I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR OPEN GOVERNMENT TO TAKE A SIGN AND STICK IT RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BECAUSE ALL THESE ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE HAVE ALL HAVE, THESE ENTRY POINTS, WHERE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE ASSOCIATION IT'S TO PROTECT HER PROPERTY.

IT'S TO THE WHOLE PRINCIPLES.

HAVING A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IS TO PROTECT PROPERTY.

I MEAN, THEY GOT EVERYTHING ELSE, GOT SOCIAL COMMITTEES.

THEY'VE GOT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, BUT HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW SOMETHING'S GOING ON? ESPECIALLY WHEN THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION ITSELF DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

NOW I'M BRINGING THIS POINT UP.

SO, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE THAT'S TAKING PLACE THAT IS DON'T HAVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE DOWN THERE.

YOU SAID THE CLOSEST ONE'S ON CALENDAR, IT MEANS UP ON CATHERINE NET FIVE MILES AWAY.

AND SO, SO HERE NOW WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE THAT COULD RIPPLE THROUGH THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER ASSOCIATIONS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER METHODS THAT WE, WHAT OTHER METHODS, THE POINT IS HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL IT WAS ACTUALLY COMING UP IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THIS IS HOW IT CAME TO ME.

SO, UM, AND, AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU, THE OTHER NEIGHBORS DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT.

I MADE THE PEOPLE PROBABLY NEXT DOOR DID ALL RIGHT.

BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THIS IS A WAY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WITH THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.

THIS IS SOMETHING I'M SEEING HAPPENING THAT I THINK IS A LEARNING TO LEARN PROVIDES ARE A LEARNING SITUATION, IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SOMETHING ACTUALLY IS GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION NOW? UH, WHAT IS THE ROUTINE PROCESS WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN BEFORE YOU, DO YOU NOT NOTIFY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND HOW LONG AGO WOULD YOU HAVE NOTIFIED THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WE NORMALLY DO? AND IN THIS CASE, WE DID NOTIFY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, UH, OF THE APPLICATION.

UM, WE'LL DO THAT AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT WE SEND OUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE SEND OUT THE ADVERTISEMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORS TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN WE SEND A AND WHEN WE PUT THE SIGN UP.

SO, AND THE SIGN GOES UP BEFORE IT GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

AND SO THE NOTIFICATION OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MUST HAVE GONE BEFORE IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM SO THAT THEY REALLY HAD ADVANCED NOTICE ON IT.

IT WAS THE IT BEHOOVES THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO LET THE NEIGHBORS KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF THEY WANTED INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS, IF YOU WILL, BUT I'M A BRAVES, APPOINT SHIELD.

DID YOU NOTIFY, WHO DID YOU NOTIFY THE MANAGEMENT FIRM? YES.

AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT THEY WERE SHARING IT WITH THE HOA BOARD.

WELL, THE FEEDBACK I'M GETTING IS THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THIS INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT HERE IS THERE, AND THERE'S OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EACH SITE, EACH ASSOCIATION HAS ITS OWN DYNAMICS, GOOD OR BAD.

IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

SOME ARE VERY ACTIVE, SOME ARE NOT.

AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.

IF THERE'S TWO ISSUES THAT ALWAYS COME UP IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, IT CAUSED A PROBLEM.

IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE THESE TOURIST HOMES OR IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE ARE THE TWO ISSUES THAT POP UP AND CAUSE A STINK THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO PUT IT THE ENTRANCE SIMPLY DATE, YOU KNOW, THERE IT IS.

THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

UM, SORRY TO SUMMARIZE THE TWO APPLICATIONS TONIGHT, THE, THE TWO MAIN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO AND THIS ONE IS NOT WHOLE HOME.

IT'S A SINGLE BEDROOM.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS ONE IS ONE ROOM AND THE, AND THE OWNER WILL BE RESIDE ON PREM THE ENTIRE TIME IT'S, IT'S BEING RENTED OUT.

UM, SO THAT LIMITED TO TWO GUESTS AT ANY ONE TIME, CORRECT.

HOW MANY VEHICLES WITHIN ONE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE SPACES AND IT DOES, IT'S HARD TO TELL, LOOKING AT THE PICTURE HERE THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE OFF-ROAD PARKING FOR, FOR THREE VEHICLES FOR TWO GUESTS, A SIZE LIKE, YES.

AND THAT'S ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THAT? YES.

UM, DOES APPLICANT HAVE ANY OTHER SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY? I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT OF THAT.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY.

AND I BELIEVE, YEAH.

I WANT TO MAKE HER QUESTION.

AND THE REALTOR THERE, ONE OF THESE, ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES REALTORS, OF COURSE, TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, IF THERE IS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ASSOCIATED WITH THE SALE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.

THIS IS A, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE, OKAY.

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IN THIS CASE, YOU MENTIONED THERE INDEED IS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AND THE COUNTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, BUT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION DOES.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S AWARE WHEN THEY GO INTO THAT WONDERFUL SUBDIVISION DOWN THERE, THAT THERE IS AN ATRIAL WAY, THERE ARE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND THEY SPELL OUT WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, PRIMARILY WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.

AND ONE OF THEM IS APPARENTLY A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

ALRIGHT.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE, THE SMART HOMEOWNER WOULD LIKE TO TRUMP THE HOA AND HAD THE COUNTY APPROVE THE APPLICATION.

THAT'S MY COMMENT.

DECISION THAT YOU GUYS MAKE, THAT YOU MAKE HERE TODAY DOES NOT SUPERSEDE THEIR PRIVATE COVENANTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JEAN.

I HAD THE APPLICANT, WHO'S CURIOUS TO SPEAK, MRS. KIM PARA, WOULD YOU CARE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE WHAT'D.

YOU HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IF YOU WANT IT.

GOODNIGHT, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS MARIA .

I LIVE IN TIMES DIATRIBE AND, UM, I WILL LIKE TO DO A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, WHETHER YOU WERE DISCUSSING.

AND, UM, I LIVED THERE MORE THAN A YEAR AND WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY, UM, ANY DOCUMENT ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION, ESPECIALLY FROM MY REALTORS.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT I NEED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WITH MY REALTOR.

AND ALSO BEFORE I, I, UH, DID THE APPLICATION, I SPEAK WITH, UH, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

IT'S A JUICY TOPIC OF MANAGEMENT AND I CALLED THEM LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES AND NEVER ANSWERED MY GOALS.

I SENT HIM, UH, SEND HERE, UH, AN EMAIL.

I HAVE THE PROOF OF THAT AND HE NEVER, UH, SHE NEVER ANSWERED ME.

UH THAT'S I DID THAT BEFORE, UM, MAKING THE APPLICATION BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW IF I WAS ALLOWING TO DO THAT.

AND JUST A WEEK AGO, I RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT THE HOA IS NOT ALLOWING ME TO RENT MY ROOM.

DO YOU OWN ANY OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY IN YOUR COUNTY? NO.

SO GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR STRATEGY? UM, ARE YOU STILL, YOU STILL WANT TO PURSUE THIS SPECIALTY? YEAH.

YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK I DON'T HAVE A GOOD HR MANAGEMENT.

I HAVE, UM, ISSUES BEFORE THESE APPLICATION.

THEY NEVER ANSWER ME.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I CAN, I CAME HERE TO, TO REQUEST SOME HELP, BUT I WILL DO IT.

SO, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, ANY DECISION THAT THIS BOARD MAKES TONIGHT, IT SAYS BASICALLY WHETHER THE BOARD HAS ISSUE WITH YOUR APPLICATION, BUT AS STAFF HAS SAID, ANYTHING WE DECIDE DOES NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON WHAT YOUR, YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION COVENANTS SAY.

SO WHETHER IF, IF THIS BOARD DECIDES TO APPROVE TONIGHT, YOU, I THINK YOU STILL HAVE THE CHALLENGE CONVINCING YOUR AND ASSOCIATION LET'S PURSUE ANY, IF WE, IF WE APPROVE IT DOES NOT FORCE THE HOA IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER.

YEAH, I THINK I WILL.

I WILL TRY TO TALK WITH THE HOA IF PRO ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SORRY.

GOOD QUESTION.

UM, SO, AND W WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN? UH, SO YOU STARTED, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU HAD ALREADY STARTED THE BUSINESS OF, OF, UH, ANNOUNCING THAT YOU ARE LEASING THE ROOM.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHY THEY SEND ME A LETTER AND I STOP, UH, RENTING THE ROOM ONCE I GET, RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.

UH, UH, FOLKS EITHER DON'T KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UM, AND I DON'T EXPECT A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MEMBER.

I DON'T EXPECT IT, UH, YOU'RE REQUIRED, BUT I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THAT EVERY LINE IN YOUR RULES, YOUR ASSOCIATION, I READ YOUR ASSOCIATIONS STUFF.

THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

UM, AND, UM, AND, AND, AND THERE'S SOME CLEAR STATEMENTS IN THERE, BUT SOME OF US LOOK CONFUSING.

UM, SO HOW DID YOU GET NOTIFIED THAT YOU WERE IN VIOLATION? UH, DEAR PLANNING COMMISSION, SEND ME A LETTER, THE CAT COUNTY'S

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PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND I SUSPECT THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE DO A SEARCH ONLINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

NO, I BELIEVE THAT THE MOST COMMON WAY THEY OCCUR AS THERE'S A REVENUE SPECIALIST IN THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE'S OFFICE THAT, UH, SORT OF SURFS THE WEB, LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

SOMEBODY DOES A LITTLE RESEARCH AND CAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER LEARNING THING THAT WE HAVE IS HOW WE FIND THESE VIOLATIONS.

IN A WAY, I'M COMING MORE.

SO ONCE I HAVE THE BOAR, UH, THE MEDIUM BART AND ON DECEMBER, THEY TOLD ME THAT I NEED TO PAY TAXES.

SO I DID, I PAID ALL MY TAXES FOR THE, UH, RENT THAT I DID BEFORE.

IS THERE ANYBODY WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? ONE, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS JOHN STEWART.

I LIVE AT 1 0 1 PONSONBY DRIVE IN YORKSHIRE DOWNS.

AND, UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE OFFENDING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UM, THAT FAILED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

UM, IN MY DEFENSE, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HOLD THEM IN PERSON ANY LONGER.

WE ALL DEAL WITH A ZOOM OR WHATEVER, UH, APP OUR ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT COMPANIES USING.

AND, UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF PROPERTY MANAGERS IN THE LAST, UH, YEAR AND A HALF.

AND SO WHAT I FEAR HAS HAPPENED, WHICH I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IS THAT ANY INFORMATION THAT'S GONE TO THE ASSOCIATION TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAS GOTTEN IN THE ETHER.

UM, BUT IT'S BEEN STATED, UH, BEFORE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THIS TYPE OF, UH, RENTAL IS AGAINST THE COVENANTS OF THE ASSOCIATION.

AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO, UH, TO REPRESENT THAT ASPECT TO, UH, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

COULD I ASK HIM A QUESTION I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH YOUR COVENANTS AND THINGS, WOULD THERE BE A PR UH, PROHIBITION AGAINST MS. ROJAS RENTING, SAY, TAKING A ROOMMATE IN OR RENTING A, THAT ROOM FOR ALL A LONGTERM? SO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS APPROVED AND WHAT CAN'T BE DONE, I DEFER TO THE LAWYERS BECAUSE I AM NOT A LAWYER AND AS YOU'VE STATED, AND I THINK MR. SHEPHERD HAS STATED THE, UH, OUR COVENANTS KIND OF READ LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, STEREO INSTRUCTIONS.

AND SO WE DIFFER AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG FOR ANY NOTIFICATION OR ANYTHING TO GO OUT IS BECAUSE WE DEFERRED THIS TO OUR PROPERTY MANAGER TO AN ATTORNEY.

AND SO YOUR QUESTION, SIR, I WOULD REFER BACK TO THE ATTORNEY TO DO THE INTERPRETATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M AN ENGINEERING KIND OF GUY AND THE WHOLE LAW THING IS, IS OUTSIDE MY COMFORT ZONE.

SO, UH, I, I COULD NOT ANSWER THAT AUTHORITATIVELY.

I WOULD.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION THOUGH.

AND I WOULD ASK OUR ATTORNEY, OUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT HOW I VOTE.

THE THEIRS THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UM, UH, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, RESTRICTED COVENANTS OR WHATEVER IT SAYS, NO PORTION OF ANY LIVING, UH, NO PORTION OF ANY LIVING UNIT, MEANING THE HOUSE I ASSUME, UH, SHALL BE LEASED, WOULD HAVING SOMEONE COME IN AND LIVING IN LIVE IN SOME PORTION OF THE HOUSE, BE CONSIDERED A LEASE.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE COVENANT, BUT THE LANGUAGE YOU'VE READ SUGGESTS THAT YOU CANNOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.

WELL, I MEAN, IT IT'S, WELL, IT SHALL BE.

LISA SAYS, UM, IT'S LIKE, IT MEANS IT CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD LEASE THE WHOLE HOUSE OR RENT THE WHOLE HOUSE.

SURE.

BUT THEY CAN'T SUBDIVISION.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T DIVIDE ANY PORTION OF IT.

IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.

I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS, WE GOT LIKE 70 OR 80 OF THESE THINGS, THE NUMBER OF COVENANTS OR SUBDIVISIONS KNOWN AS MY TIME.

I DON'T RECALL SEEING THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY.

SO I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT IN PRACTICE.

OH, IT SAYS IN HERE OTHER THAN THE ENTIRE LIVING UNIT AND YOU CAN RENT THE ENTIRE UNIT, YOU CAN'T TAKE ON A ROOMMATE.

WHY DO YOU WATCH, MAY I JUST POINT OUT ONE THING, RENTAL OF INDIVIDUAL ROOMS WITHIN A HOUSE IS NOT ALLOWED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

IF, IF I'M, IF I MAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, COVENANTS WE'RE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE THE FACT THAT YOU WISHES TO USE HER PROPERTY BY RENTING A ROOM.

UM, BUT SHEILA, WE ARE SUPERVISORS.

YOU STILL GOT THE PUBLIC.

NO, I HAVE A PA I HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING GOING ON IT.

AND

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IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHATEVER THE HOA COVENANTS MAY SAY, UH, TO GET ONE, IF YOU WANT TO RENT A ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE ON A LONG-TERM BASIS THAT CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, JUST TO MUDDY THE WATER FURTHER THOUGH, TIM CORRECT ME.

IF I'M WRONG.

A, A GROUP OF UP TO THREE UNRELATED FAMILY, PEOP UH, MEMBERS CAN LIVE IN A HOUSE AND SPLIT THE HOUSE PAYMENT OR RENT.

THERE'S NO ZONING ORDINANCE PROBATION ABOUT CORRECT.

IF THEY SPLIT THE THAT'S A SEPARATE, THEY SPLIT IT OR PAY THE SPLIT.

THE MORTGAGE.

WE'RE SPLITTING.

WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE ARE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF COLLEGE KIDS THAT WE'VE BEEN MARRIED.

ALRIGHT, GENTLEMEN, GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

ARE YOU ALERTED MAKING A STATEMENT? I'VE GOT A QUESTION STAFF.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

IT'S APPROVED, BUT NOT EXERCISE FOR WHATEVER REASON.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT OVER TIME.

DOES IT JUST SIT THERE? AND, UM, IT EXPIRES IF IT DOESN'T GET IMPLEMENTED IN TWO YEARS, I EVEN DO THAT.

I WILL ASK FOR SOMEONE TO APPROVE THIS SOLUTION.

IT'S AN ART.

NO, THAT SAYS I DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE HERE.

IT SAYS NO.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW STAFF YOU'VE TOLD ME THAT THERE'S NO, THAT THERE'S NO MOTION IS REQUIRED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE HAVING FUN TONIGHT.

AREN'T WE I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION NOW.

AND IT'S AN ART AND MAKE THE MOTION TO OUR 22 DASH 26.

AND I HAVE A COMMENT.

WE HAVE COMMENTS.

SHEILA IS THE POINT WHERE WE DECIDE THERE'S A PART WHERE WE DISCUSSED.

THIS IS, THIS IS THE PART I'LL RE I'LL REMOVE MY MOTION.

I'LL WITHDRAW.

HAPPY NEW YEARS, EVERYBODY.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

YES, PLEASE.

THEN THE NORMAL RULE IS ONCE THAT, ONCE I REALIZED THAT WE RELAXED THE RULES AS EVEN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS ALLOWS FOR SMALL BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

UH, THE NORMAL RULE IS ONCE THE MOTION IS MADE, IT IS ON THE FLOOR AND THAT'S WHEN IT'S DISCUSSED.

SO, UM, MAJOR MOTION.

SO MR. GREEN AND MS. SHEPHERD ARE CORRECT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY PERFECT MOTION.

I DON'T REMOVE THIS.

YOU DIDN'T REMOVE IT.

TO ME, THIS IS, THIS IS THE WHOLE CRUX OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THESE DAMN THINGS.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S NOT ONLY CONFUSING FOR THE PERSON TO HAVE TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION RULES, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT POLICY ASPECTS OF THIS, THAT THE BOARD SUPERVISORS ESTABLISHED, WHICH IS COMPOUNDED BY THE STATE LAW THAT COMES DOWN AND HELPS ESTABLISH THESE THINGS.

SO IN MY OPINION, AND THIS IS ALL I'M DOING IS EXPRESSING MY OPINION THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, AND I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, THAT WE HAVE THOROUGHLY VETTED, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS THAT IT'S HERE.

I MEAN IT'S, AND, AND YOU'RE SEEING IT'S, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS DISCUSSION IS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING THE YOU'RE MAKING SCRAMBLED EGGS OR SOMETHING.

AND, UM, SO ARE MAKING SAUSAGE, I GUESS.

SO THE ISSUE I HAVE HERE IS NEVER BEFORE HAVE I, UH, ON THE BOARD 20 YEARS HAVE, UH, USED OR THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION RULE BECAUSE WE DON'T SUPERSEDE IT.

THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT IS ESTABLISHED BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL, THE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE ASSOCIATION.

I DON'T CARE WHAT OUR LAW DOES NOT SUPERSEDE IT.

WHATEVER RULE WE MAKE, WHATEVER VOTING DECISION, UH, WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE IT, WE STILL DON'T SUPERSEDE THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE'S, TO ME, THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE.

AND THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THESE THINGS COME INTO A COMMUNITY, THEY CAUSE A LOT OF CONSTERNATION OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE ASPECTS AND I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I AM, AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT THE BOARD THAT YOU SAID, IT'S AN R WHEREBY YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ARE, WE'VE PUT IN THIS TERMINOLOGY AND HERE IN THIS RESOLUTION, THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.

USE ACTIVITY, NOR THE AUTHORITY OF ANY PROPERTY OWNERS, ASSOCIATION, PROPERTY, OWNER ASSOCIATION, TO ENFORCE COMPLIANCE WITH ANY APPLICABLE COVERINGS.

UM, BASICALLY SOME EMOTION RESOLUTION AND IT TALKS ABOUT IT SAYS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO SUPERSEDE OR NEGATE THE EFFECT AND APPLICANT APPLICATION OF ANY PRIVATE COVENANTS THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE TO THE PROPOSED

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IN OTHER WORDS, WHATEVER WE DECIDE IT DOESN'T OVERSEE.

IT DOESN'T SUPERSEDE YOUR, YOUR, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RULES.

BUT, BUT THE POINT I'M MAKING HERE IS THAT YOU, THAT WHEN THESE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WANT TO BUILD A, PUT A BUSINESS IN THERE.

YOU WANT TO PUT A, YOU WANT TO PUT A BED AND BREAKFAST.

YOU WANT TO PUT A, UH, A LEASE OF ANY TYPE YOU'RE AFFECTING THE, THE, OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND YOU.

AND BETTER BE ALIGNED UP WITH THE LAW.

SO, UH, TO ME TONIGHT, I AM GOING TO VOTE NO, ON THIS.

I'M TELLING YOU UP FRONT SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE PART AND PARCEL OF PUSHING, UM, THIS DECISION OFF ON THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.

NO WORDS.

IT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO CONSIDER THIS ONE, BECAUSE OF THE ASPECT OF THIS AS A TOURIST BUSINESS AS MUCH, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHEPHERD.

I THINK YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE MR. REALM.

A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE PERSPECTIVE.

THERE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BOARD COMPARTMENTALIZE THESE DECISIONS ON WHAT IS CONNIE SPECIFIC.

CAUSE I THINK THE LAST THING THIS BOY WANTS TO DO IS GET INVOLVED WITH ANY TYPE OF MANAGEMENT OF ANY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, COVENANTS RULES, REGULATIONS.

AND I KNOW THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, LAST THING THEY WANT THE BOARD TO DO IS INVOLVED, IS GETTING INVOLVED IN MANAGING THEIR, THEIR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.

SO WHEN, WHEN I'M GOING TO CONSIDER THIS, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE COUNTY? DOES IT, IS, IS IT, UM, UM, NICK, IS IT, IS IT AGAINST ANY KIND OF POLICIES, NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOA? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK I, I THINK WE NEED TO SEPARATE THAT.

I THINK HE KIND OF NEEDS TO FOCUS COUNTY THAT HOA FOCUS AT ON THEIR STUFF.

UM, ANY DECISION WE MAKE HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT THE HOA DOES AND IT W WHETHER WE DECIDE YES OR NO, WE DECIDE FOR THE COUNTY H O DECIDES FOR THE, FOR THE ASSOCIATION AND I, AND THE TWO AND THE TWO NEVER MEET IS KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

THANK YOU, MR. ROWAN.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT TOO.

WE, WE VOTE AS THE COUNTY, ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE COUNTY AND THE LAWS OF THE COUNTY, WHAT HAPPENS PRIVATELY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF AN ASSOCIATION, ISN'T IS NOT OUR PURVIEW.

IT'S UP TO THEM.

AND, UH, I DON'T WANT US TO GET SO DOWN IN THE WEEDS, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE FORGET WHAT OUR JOB REALLY IS.

AND SO IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS YOU HAVE, PLEASE WE'RE ALL COMMENTED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS NOW THAT, UH, THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SET OF POLICIES, WITH RESPECT TO SHORT TERM RENTALS TO DATE.

IT'S BEEN A FAILURE FOR WHATEVER REASON.

AND MY WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS IS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS CASE BY CASE, BY CASE, BY CASE.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AS BOTH TOM AND SHEILA HAVE ALLUDED, THERE'S A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, RIGHT? THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT WAS STANDING THE COMMENT MADE BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION.

IT'S GOT A RESPONSIBILITY.

WHEN YOU W W WHETHER OR NOT YOU, YOU READ THOSE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, THEY'RE PART OF THE CONTRACT OF SALE.

AND IF YOU'RE THE HOMEOWNER, HAVEN'T READ YOUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU.

DON'T HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS IN YOUR COUNTY.

AND I OFTEN HEAR HALLELUJAH, OKAY.

I LIVE IN ROYAL GREEN, IT'S A SUBDIVISION.

WE DON'T HAVE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WE MOVED THERE AND BUILT THE HOUSE, THERE WAS THERE'S NO HATE YOUR WAY.

BECAUSE THEY CAN BE A REAL ISSUE, BUT THE POINT OF IT IS ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT I WANT THIS DOWN AT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION UNTIL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WAS A POLICY AND MY VOTE TONIGHT WOULD PREDICATE IT ON.

NOPE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THIS UP TO YOU.

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, NOT GOING TO PUT THIS UP ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

ONE, IN FACT, YOU'VE GOT A SET OF RULES DOWN THERE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS SHOULD BE COMPLYING WITH, AND IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THOSE RULES ARE FOLLOWED.

FINALLY, UH, MR. ANDREW SAID, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALL SET TO GO.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A RAILS RESOLUTION ON THE FLOOR MOTION.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. GREEN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION.

OUR 22 DASH 26 ARE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED.

MR. GREEN, MRS. NOLE.

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[4 Application No. UP-981-22, CCRC, LLC]

SO PLEASE START ON THIS, THE NEXT ONE.

THANK YOU, MS. NOLAN.

NO PROBLEM.

I WILL NOTE THIS IS NOT IN A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

THIS IS APPLICATION NUMBER UPC 9 81 DASH 22.

A FOR CCRC, LLC IS FOREIGN AUTO RENTAL ESTABLISHMENT, AND 1 0 5 BYPASS ROW, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN THE YELLOW.

UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, THE ENTIRE AREA IS ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS, UM, INCLUDING THIS PROPERTY, UH, SURROUNDING USES, UM, ARE A HOTEL HERE ON THIS SIDE AND THEN ACROSS BYPASS ROAD, YOU'VE GOT THE HOOTERS AND AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH LIKE A DAYCARE AND A DENTIST IN IT.

UM, ACROSS COLONY DRIVE IS, UH, THE PIRATE'S COVE MINIATURE GOLF COURSE, AND THEN SITTING BEHIND IT ACROSS FOUR TOWN ROAD IS THE OLD AS THE KING'S GATE.

UH, KING'S GREAT GREEN SHOPPING CENTER.

I THINK I HAVE THAT NAME CORRECTLY, UM, WHICH IS, UH, RECENTLY LOST THE KMART A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT HAS COME UNDER A LOT OF NEW RENOVATIONS WITH, UH, THE ALI'S AND THE ASHLEY FURNITURE STORE.

AND YOU'LL HAVE AN APPLICATION COMING BEFORE YOU IN A MONTH OR SO FOR THE, UH, CONTRACTOR SHOP THAT WILL BE GOING IN THERE.

SO A LOT OF RENOVATIONS IN THIS AREA.

NOW THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY, AND I WANTED TO SHOW THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE OFF OF BYPASS ROAD.

IT'S A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT, ONLY ON BYPASS.

UH, THEY HAVE TWO SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH TWO MONUMENT SIGNS, UH, THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS IS A THROUGH PROPERTY.

SO IS ALSO FRONTING ON MORE TOWN ROAD.

UH, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A PARKING AREA AT THIS, AND YOU CAN SEE MORE TOWN BEYOND THAT.

UH, THIS AREA IS THE MAIN AREA, WHETHER IT BE PARKING MOST OF THEIR CARS, UM, 18 PARKING SPACES IN THIS, IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, SKETCH PLAN.

THE APPLICANT GAVE US IT'S AN OLD SITE PLAN.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF DETAILS IN HERE, BUT I'LL KNOW WHAT THE RED OUTLINE IS, IS THE BUILDING HERE, UH, WHICH YOU CAN SEE PROPERTY LINES KIND OF FLOW AROUND.

YOU CAN SEE COLONY DRIVE OVER HERE, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRANCE ON COLONY DRIVE.

UH, WE HAVE A SIGN BACK HERE ON MORTON ROAD AND THEN ASSIGNED HERE ON, UH, BYPASS ROAD.

UH, THOSE 18 PARKING SPACES ARE LOCATED RIGHT HERE, ALONG THAT BACK AREA.

AND THEN THERE'S 11 PARKING SPACES ALONG THE SIDE.

UH, TH THIS KIND OF THIS APPLICATION IS REQUIRED TO HAVE FIVE PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE FOR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS THAT ARE COMING TO THE SITE.

SO OUT OF THE 29 SPACES, FIVE HAVE TO BE, UH, FOR CUSTOMERS AND EMPLOYEES, THE AFRICAN SET IN THEIR NARRATIVE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE 30 SPACES FOR THE AUTO RENTAL VEHICLES.

UM, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

THEY CAN ONLY HAVE UP TO 24 WHEN YOU SUBTRACT OUT THOSE FONTS.

SO WE DID PUT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THEY HAVE TO LIMIT IT TO 24.

SO THEY HAVE THOSE SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES TO PARK.

AND I JUST DESCRIBED ALL OF THAT.

AND THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THAT, BUT MAINTAINING THAT, THAT 24 PARKING SPACE FOR STORAGE IS IMPORTANT.

UH, TWO ACCESS POINTS IN THIS, UH, THAT, WHICH I SHOWED IN THE PICTURE, THE RIDING RIGHT OUT ON BYPASS ROAD, UH, AND THE FULL ENTRANCE ON COLONY DRIVE, UH, THIS USE IS NOT REALLY LISTED IN OUR, UH, ITE MANUAL OR ENGINEERING MANUAL.

UH, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET AND THE BEST, UH, THE HIGHEST NUMBER I COULD COME UP WITH ABOUT SIX TRIPS IN THE AM PEAK HOUR, WHICH IS NOWHERE NEAR THE HUNDRED THAT WE REQUIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT, UH, THIS.

SO THIS IS NOT A HIGH TRAFFIC GENERATOR, AND IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS. AS I MENTIONED, THOSE TWO SIGNS, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN RED, THE ONE ON, UH, BYPASS ROAD MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS.

UM, HOWEVER, THE ONE AT THE REAR, UM, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE, DOESN'T HAVE THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE AROUND IT.

SO THERE IS A CONDITION, UH, THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO BRING THAT SIGN UP TO DATE AND PUT THAT, THAT LANDSCAPING.

AND WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY MOVE INTO THE SITE, THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THEY GAVE US, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE DAIRY QUEEN.

WHEN IT WENT IN, UH, THEY WILL DO SOME MINOR RENOVATIONS ON THE INSIDE TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN OFFICE TYPE USE THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, HOWEVER, WILL NOT BE, UM, HAD TOO MANY ALTERATIONS TO IT.

THE PRE THE BUILDING WAS PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED UNDER THE TOURIST CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES.

SO IT HAS TO MEET THOSE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT EVEN WITH ANY MINOR CHANGES THAT THEY, THEY DO.

UH, THIS USE WILL OCCUPY A VACANT BUILDING.

THAT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE MID POINT LAST YEAR.

UM, IT IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD OFFER SOMETHING, UH, FOR THE TOURISM INDUSTRY THAT'S IN, IN THE WAYNESBURG AREAS.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND GIVE, GIVING YOU A RESOLUTION NUMBER, OUR 22 DASH 27.

AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL

[02:05:01]

OF THIS UNANIMOUSLY SEVEN TO ZERO.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR WORLD? LIKE DO I SAY YES.

MR. BROWN, PLEASE, SIR.

THIS ONE WORK RIGHT.

THAT ONE.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE EXISTING PROPERTY PARKING DRIVEWAY BUILDING PRETTY MUCH INTACT.

YES, SIR.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO, AND YOU'RE LIMITED AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO 24 RENTAL VEHICLES MAXIMUM AT ANY ONE TIME ONSITE ONSITE.

UM, W W IN CUSTOMER PARKING IS TO THE TOP OF THE PICTURE OF THIS.

WELL, I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAD STATED IN THEIR LETTER THAT THEY WOULD USE THIS REAR PORTION FOR MOST OF THE VEHICLES.

UM, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULD TRY TO SAVE THOSE FOR HERE SINCE THEY'RE CLOSEST TO WHERE THE OFFICE WILL BE LOCATED.

AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE WHAT WHAT'S RIGHT BELOW THAT, WHAT THIS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE HOTEL THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT.

AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO UPDATE THE SHRUBBERY AT, AT THIS SIGN OF THAT SIDE? OKAY.

THE ONE ON THE, ON MORTALITY, RIGHT? IS THAT THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO MY LEFT OR IS THAT ITS INTEREST AS WELL? SO THIS IS AN ENTRANCE ON COLONY DRIVE, RIGHT? IT'S A RIGHT OUT OR A FULL, A FULL SERVICE ENTRANCE.

YOU CAN GO RIGHT LEFT ANYWHERE, BUT THE ONE I'LL BYPASS ROAD IS RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY ONTO BYPASS.

AND YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT BECAUSE THERE'S A MEDIA BREAK THERE.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.

MA'AM.

WE LIKE TO SPEAK GOOD EVENING.

MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS PETER MORGAN.

I LIVE AT 4 0 1 ASHWOOD DRIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG, MY PARTNER, MR. GUS.

GIBSON'S ALSO HERE WITH ME.

WE DECIDED TO OPEN UP A RENTAL CAR BUSINESS FOR NUMEROUS REASONS.

NUMBER ONE, THE OUTRAGEOUS PRICES OF THE CURRENT RENTAL COMPANIES IN TOWN.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ALLOW COLLEGE STUDENTS TO RENT SO WE CAN RENT FROM 18 YEAR OLDS TO 25 YEAR OLDS.

OUR INSURANCE POLICY WILL ALLOW THAT.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE JUST PROVIDE ANOTHER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO RENTAL VEHICLES.

WE WILL HAVE LUXURY CARS, WE'LL HAVE STANDARD CARS.

WE'LL HAVE PICKUP TRUCKS, WE'LL HAVE CARBOHYDRATES.

SO WE'LL HAVE A RIDE WITH A VARIETY OF VEHICLES FOR PEOPLE TO RENT AT MUCH BETTER PRICING THAN YOUR CURRENT LARGE COMPETITORS.

OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S THE BASIC PLAN.

ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ANY, ANY PLANS FOR EXOTIC VEHICLES KNOW YOU'RE CALLING A MERCEDES OR A LINCOLN CONTINENTAL.

EXOTIC.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HERE.

YOU'VE GOT A, WHO HAS ANOTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU.

I LOVE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS QUESTION? WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MS. SHEPHERD, CLOSE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTES, SIR.

RESOLUTION 22, 27 AND MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSE RESOLUTION OUR 22 DASH 27 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. SHEPHERD, MR. RAMBO, MR. GREEN, MR. ROAN.

NOW, BEFORE WE GO ON WITH THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND SO FORTH, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR HIS COMMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DIANE.

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS (Part 2 of 2)]

JUST ONE THING, UM, IS BOARD AS WELL AWARE OF THE STAFF IS WORKING ON, UH, OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATION AND WE ARE SCHEDULING OUR FIRST WORK SESSION ON THE BUDGET FOR THE MARCH 1ST WORK SESSION TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE PRESENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON MARCH 15TH.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR?

[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? NO COMMENTS, NO COMMENTS, NO COMMENTS.

I DO HAVE, UM, REAL QUICK BECAUSE THIS IS A TIME MY OWN ISSUE AND I'VE LOST IT ON MY SCREEN.

OF COURSE.

UM, BUT THE, THE, UM, THE YOUTH AWARDS, THE 2022, UH, YOUTH RECOGNITION AWARDS IS IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OFFHAND IS THIS FEBRUARY IS WHEN THIS MONTH IS WHEN THE APPLICATION DUE.

I THINK THE 22ND, I WANT TO SAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE, BUT IF, IF YOU KNOW OF A, OF A OUTSTANDING YOUTH, YOUR KIND OF YOUTH HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH THAT, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO NOMINATE FOR THE AWARD AND THE SCHOLARSHIP, UH, THOMAS COMING UP, IT'S ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND JUST LOOK UP, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUTH AWARD PRETTY QUICK, UM, FOUR CATEGORIES, UM, COURAGE AND COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SO FORTH.

[02:10:01]

UM, SO TOM'S GETTING TIGHT AND JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY NOMINATE THEM.

UH, I KNOW THERE ARE MANY, UM, UH, APPLICANTS THAT, THAT DESERVE IT.

I KNOW WE REVIEWED THEM LAST YEAR AND LOTS OF GOOD STORIES THERE AND LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN.

SO, UM, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU, MR. ROME, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'M GLAD TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND BRIEFLY WE HAVE NUMBER FIVE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

NUMBER SIX IS THE APPLICATION REQUESTS FOR KERRY CHAPEL ROAD, HOUSING REHABILITATION PROJECT.

I AM NUMBER SEVEN, PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE FOR TAX AND UTILITY BILLING.

NUMBER EIGHT, REQUEST FOR REFUND OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES FOR DISABLED VETERANS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP.

NOW.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE REQUEST FOR REFUND OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES.

NOW, ITEM 10 IS A TRANSFER FROM THE REVENUE STREAM STABILIZATION FUND TO THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR SEAFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

ITEM.

NUMBER 11 IS THE COMMENDATION OF RETIRING EMPLOYEE, MARK ROBINSON AND ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A COMMENDATION OF A RETIRING EMPLOYEE, CAGEY RUSSELL.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WISH TO PULL OR DISCUSS PLEASE? OKAY.

NUMBER SEVEN IS THE PURCHASE OF THE SOFTWARE I HAD.

NUMBER 10 ALSO, PLEASE.

AND NUMBER SIX AND 10.

STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS OR WE'RE STARTING WITH SIX? YES.

I, THE REASON I WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT, UM, WE GOT THE BRIEFING LAST FOR ME, I THINK THE LAST BOARD MEETING AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENCE AND HARD WORK.

UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION DIVISION, THE WORK THAT OUR STAFF GONE INTO TO APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS, UH, WALTER IN YOUR AREA, UH, UP IN CARVER GARDENS, A LOT OF TREMENDOUS WORK WAS DONE UP THERE.

SOME CASES WHERE THEY HAD TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN AND REBUILD THEM.

UH, THIS, I, I THINK THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THAT THIS PROBABLY WILL HAPPEN TO SOME OF THE HOMES.

I'LL CURIOUS CHAPEL, BUT THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS.

AND THIS IS, AND, AND, UH, FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE THESE HOMES, REVITALIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE TOTAL SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 1.3 TO $1.4 MILLION OF WHICH THE COUNTY I BELIEVE IS GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, UH, PITCH IN WHAT ABOUT $122,000.

SO THIS IS A, THIS IS JUST A TREMENDOUS EFFORT AND I THUMBS UP ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

AND LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE SEVEN WAS THE NEXT ONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WERE TIM, BUT DEPENDS ON THE QUEST.

IT DEPENDS ON THE QUESTION PROBABLY.

UM, SO YOU'RE YOU, I HAD TO READ THIS TWICE.

SO YOU'RE USING A SOFTWARE THAT YOU STARTED WHEN I WAS STILL IN COLLEGE.

SO, UM, SO YOU KNOW, YOU WERE THAT EXPERIENCED, EXPERIENCED, SO I THINK YOU'RE DUE FOR AN UPGRADE, UH, W AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST THING ON THAT.

IBM MAINFRAME.

YES, SIR.

AND WHERE IS THAT? WHO MAINTAINS THAT IBM MAINFRAME DEPARTMENT? WE DO, YES.

SO WE GET TO RETIRE THE 40 YEAR OLD LOBBY AND MAINFRAME HALLELUJAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, THE INITIAL COST IS GOING TO COVER INSTALLATION DEPLOYMENT TRAINING IS THE VENDOR, HOW HAS IT BEEN, UH, GOING TO BE INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS? THEY'RE GOING TO DEPLOY FOR US ALONG WITH THE IT STAFF.

WHEN WE, WE SPENT A FULL SIX WEEK KIND OF IN DEPTH, GOT CAP ANALYSIS, WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION, REVENUE, TREASURES, OFFICE, FINANCE, UTILITY BILLING, AND IT GOING STEP-BY-STEP AS WE GO THROUGH THE TWO ITERATIONS TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CUSTOMIZATION IS NEEDED, AS WELL AS THE CIGARETTE TAX AND SOME OF THE EXTRA MODULES THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

UM, IT WILL BE AN 18 MONTH PROCESS AND WORK HAND IN HAND, VERY DILIGENTLY, VERY HARD THROUGHOUT THOSE.

MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR.

SO 18 MONTH DEPLOYMENT, UM, SERVICE SIDE SOFTWARE, I GUESS, A DESKTOP CLIENT, AS WELL AS A PORTAL SO THAT CITIZENS CAN GET TO AND LOOK UP AND LOOK UP THINGS.

EXACTLY.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF MILESTONES OF IT IS THIS'LL BE THE FACE THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE WITH THE SOFTWARE.

WHEN THEY GO TO PAY THE TAXES, OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW KIND OF SHOWS ITS AGE AS BLOCKY, YOU CLICK THE BUTTONS, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A PIECE MAIL.

THIS IS WHAT OUR CITIZENS WOULD EXPECT.

LAUREN YEARS IS GOING TO BE LICENSES AND

[02:15:01]

WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE TIME ARE WE ENTERING INTO WITH THEM DURING BUSINESS DAYS? LATE THE SAME DAY, EIGHT TO FIVE, EIGHT TO FIVE.

UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS COMPANY.

HOW DID WE COME TO CHOOSE THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR AND THEIR SOFTWARE OVER ANY OTHER ONE THAT WE COULD BE USING? WHAT, WHAT WHAT'S THAT THESE GUYS APART? SO THERE WAS A COUPLE OF KEY LEADING SOFTWARE COMPANIES.

UH, TYLER WAS UP THERE, BUT DID NOT DO VIRGINIA TAX TO THE SAME LEVEL OF WHAT WE NEEDED.

THE VICINITY IS BEING USED IN HANOVER COUNTY, WHICH THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO DO AN ENTIRE DAY DEMO FOR US, WITH OUR STAFF AND THERE'S LEXINGTON, SPOTSYLVANIA MADISON COUNTY, ALEXANDRIA.

AND THEN WHEN HE DIDN'T WIN, HE ALSO RECENTLY PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE.

SO WE'RE NOT BLEEDING IT, SO THAT'S GOOD.

WHAT VERSION OF SOFTWARE WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING? I FORGET THE NIGHT'S THE VERY LATEST, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS NOT ONE THAT, OH, IT'S 13 GOT SOMETHING, HOPEFULLY.

SO IT'S MATURE SOFTWARE.

WELL, THE REGULATIONS ON THE RIGHT, AND THEN I HAD NUMBER 10, TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT.

THIS WAS A PLANNED EXPENDITURE FOR 2023, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT.

BUT WE'RE BACKING IT UP A YEAR TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND STOCK PURCHASING AND BUILDING MATERIALS NOW.

SO IT'S THE SAME EXPENDITURE JUST A YEAR EARLY.

CORRECT? RIGHT.

AND SINCE IT'S A CASH IN OUR RESERVE ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY THERE'S NO FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHETHER WE PROVIDE THE FUNDS TO THE SCHOOLS NOW, OR A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW.

AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO PROCURE SOME LONG LEAD ITEMS AND THEY THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GEARING UP TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THE SEAFORD.

IT'S A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE RECONSTRUCTION.

AND I KNOW THEY TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T GET IT.

DIDN'T SEE THE DETAILS IS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ANYTHING TO DO WITH PARKIN AND DROP OFF A COMBINATION.

I, I KNOW THAT'S IN MANY OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY AND SEAFORD AS WELL.

THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

THERE IS ANY, UM, IT'S, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO PUT BRIAN FULLER ON THE SPOT, ALTHOUGH I KNOW HE'S BEEN IN MEETINGS AND REVIEWED IT.

UM, BRIAN, YES.

THEY DO PLAN TO, TO REDO THE PARKING BOTH ON THE SIDES AND A PARTY AREA OUT FRONT.

SO THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING THAT PARKING PROBLEM THERE.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, I SAW SOME OF THE RENDITIONS AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A VERY MODERN SCHOOL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

UM, IT'S LIKE I GET A TON OF YARD FOOTBALL FIELD, LIKE BACK, NO DRIVE.

MR. RONAN, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME WITH ME ANY MORNING.

UH, WHEN I DROPPED THE KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL AT SEAFORD ELEMENTARY, I WOULD BE HAPPY FOR YOU TO DO A RIDE ALONG.

THAT GOES, THAT GOES FOR ANY OF THE STAFF AND BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

AND NOW

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

WE WANT THE RESOLUTION.