[Call to Order]
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2022 REGULAR BOARD MEETING YOUR COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BUT TONIGHT IT'S REALLY A WORK SESSION AND WE'RE DOWNSTAIRS IN THE EAST ROOM FOR THE FIRST TIME, ALMOST TWO YEARS.
MR. HERE MR. GREEN, MR. RON, MR. SHERIFF, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
[A. American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA). Receive presentation from the Finance Staff.]
TURNED THE MEETING OVER TO YOU TONIGHT.WELL, I THINK WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, YEAH, SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
UH, LIKE TO ASK GREG JULETTE, OUR SENIOR BUDGET ANALYST TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE HERE WHILE HE'S GETTING PREPARED.
JUST TO SET THE TABLE A LITTLE BIT, YOU ALL RECOGNIZE GREG, PROBABLY BOTH FROM ZOOM MEETINGS, MAYBE EVEN A COUPLE OF IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
HE HAS BEEN OUR, OUR LEAD STAFF PERSON, UH, DEALING WITH THE VARIOUS OF FEDERAL AID.
FIRST, THE CARES ACT AND MORE RECENTLY ARPA.
AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS TO UPDATE YOU ON THE SECOND TRAUNCH, THE OF MONEY, AND OF COURSE, DECISIONS YOU ALL HAVE MADE AND AT LEAST TENTATIVE DECISIONS YOU HAVE MADE THE BAST.
MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED SUBJECT TO YOUR FINAL VOTES, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CIP.
BUT IF YOU'LL RECALL, THERE WAS ABOUT, UH, A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS OR, UH, THAT WE JUST KIND OF DEFERRED FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.
AND, UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME BOTH TO HAVE GREG SHARE WITH YOU KIND OF JUST A RESTATEMENT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE UP TO NOW AND WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
AND THEN ALSO INTRODUCE OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS FOR HOW WE MIGHT DEPLOY THIS REMAINING AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, GREG AND ALL THE FINANCE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN TRACKING THIS BECAUSE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CONVOLUTED REPORTING.
UH, THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED.
SO GREG, UM, YOU CAN START WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN, AND GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN ABOUT OUR STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY, AND ALSO TO SPEAK AS TO OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THOSE FUNDS.
JUST TO RECAP, AS YOU RECALL, THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUND PROVIDES DIRECT PAYMENTS AND THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND IT'S PROBABLY MOST HIGH PROFILE AND THE LARGEST OR SECOND LARGEST PORTION OF THE TOTAL ARPA FUNDING UNDER THAT BILL.
UH, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON SOME OF THE OTHER ARPA FUNDS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AT THE COUNTY.
UM, WE RECEIVED $156,000 IN UTILITIES RELIEF.
UH, THOSE WERE CREDITED DIRECTLY TO UTILITY CUSTOMERS ACCOUNTS.
UM, WE RECEIVED $2.6 MILLION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING FOR A REGIONAL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE GRANT.
UH, THAT WAS IN COOPERATION WITH WILLIAMSBURG AND BICOASTAL.
SHOULD WE ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG IF YOU'D LIKE, HOWEVER, YEAH.
SO WHO MANAGED? IT WAS MANAGING THE 2.6.
THAT WAS ABBOTT'S TEAM WITH US.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ECONOMIC.
ARE THOSE DIRECT DISBURSEMENTS OF FIRMS OR PEOPLE SIGN UP THAT THEY QUALIFIED? THERE WAS AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
IT GOES OVER THE APPLICATIONS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, STAFF REVIEWS.
IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MORE ON THAT AD, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO COMMENT.
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A DOLLAR LIMIT AND YOU HAD TO BE A BUSINESS THAT WAS DEMONSTRABLY IMPACTED BY, UH, BUT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT RECEIVED SMALL DIRECT PAYMENTS MARCH.REMEMBER BECAUSE THE WAVES WERE A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE DOOR COUNTY.
THAT WAS THE YORK COUNTY PRETTY GOOD.
AND WAS THAT USE IT FOR MUSIC KINDA THING THOUGH? WORDS HAVE BEEN USED THE 2.6 AS GO BACK TO THE YEAH.
UM, WE ALSO RECEIVED $140,000 FOR OUR HEADSTART PROGRAM, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR COVID RELATED COSTS.
AND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO OUR DIRECT PAYMENT, I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION TWO THINGS THAT WERE NOT ON THIS LIST.
ONE IS $300,000 ALLOCATION FOR TOURISM RECOVERY, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED, BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ONCE WE KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, THE OTHER IS JUST LAST WEEK, WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT WE'LL BE RECEIVING A SECOND PAYMENT FROM THE PROVIDER RELIEF FUND, WHICH IS BASED ON, UH, A CALCULATION THEY DO.
AND IT'S LIMITED BY AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT YET, BUT WE WILL MOVE SHORTLY.
AND WE'LL BRIEF THE BOARD ON WHAT'S A PROVIDER IT'S BASICALLY FOR, UH, OUR TRANSPORT OR MEDICAL TRANSPORT FEES.
SO WITH THE REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR OH, LIAR, A FUCKING LIFE SAFETY IS A PROVIDER.
HOW ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NOW THAT PART OF THE DEAL TOURISM RECOVERY, HOW MUCH WE LOOK IN THERE? $300,000.
AND IS THAT GOING TO BE MAINLY MARKETING AND ADVERTISEMENT OR I BELIEVE SO GOING OUT OF OUR TOURISM DEPARTMENT OR, YEAH, SO THERE'S, UM, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT.
THERE'S A REGIONAL PART THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT FLOWS THROUGH, UH, THE WILLIAMSBURG TOURISM COUNCIL.
AND THEN THERE'S A SMALLER PART THAT WE'RE MANAGING THROUGH OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU USE IT FOR AND ITS PURPOSE IS BASICALLY TO BRING BACK TOURISM.
UH, YEAH, HE WAS THE COUNTY REP ON THE CHORES AND COUNTED DURING HIS LAST YEAR.
OH, YOU THE REP FOR THAT NOW, OR YOU STILL ARE, SO YOU'RE GUARDING.
I TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING IN RIGHT TO START A BIG MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND SOME HEAVY NORTHERN DISTRICTS.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PLACES LIKE THAT, BRING THOSE FOLKS DOWN HERE WITH SOME DEEP POCKETS.
AND I THINK SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT GREG'S REFERENCING IS GOING TO BE USED FOR PART OF THAT SUPPLEMENTAL MARKETING.
BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THE THREE JURISDICTIONS, NOT JUST YOUR COUNTY IS THE BIG CONTRIBUTOR TO THE TOURISM INITIATIVES.
THAT BRINGS US REAL QUICK THAT THE HEADSTART 140 K FOR COVID.
HAVE THEY RECEIVED THAT YET? OR IS THAT COMING IN THAT WE RECEIVED, YOU SEE THAT FOR EDUCATIONAL SUPPLIES? I'VE HAD, THEY HAVE SO MANY COVID RELATED RESTRICTIONS TO DEAL WITH THERE.
SO IT'S IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FUNCTION DAY TO DAY.
SO YEAH, THAT BRINGS ME TO THE REAL REASON I'M HERE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE $13.3 MILLION IN DIRECT PAYMENTS WE'RE RECEIVING FROM TREASURY, WHICH YOU'LL RECALL.
UH, WE WERE RECEIVING TWO EQUAL TRANCHES.
THE SECOND WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE IN JUNE THIS YEAR, YOU'RE NOT LEAVING THAT SOMETHING YET, BUT GOING BACK TO THE BOOKS, WHAT IS SLUR? THOSE ARE THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS.
SO THAT'S A BASICALLY $350 BILLION OF THE AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN ACT WAS DIRECT PAYMENTS FROM TREASURY TO STATE LOCAL AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS.
SO, UH, THAT THAT'S FOR US TO ALLOCATE THE EXPENDITURE WORK.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL, HOW MUCH WOULD BE AND PUSH IT TO EACH AREA
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POPULATION.WELL, IT WAS BASED ON POPULATION, BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND WHERE THE STATE RECEIVED THE MONEY AND THEN PASSED IT THROUGH THIS CAME DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY.
SO, SO IT WAS BUILT INTO THE LEGISLATION EXACTLY HOW MUCH EACH TAX.
SO WHEN I LAST BRIEF THE BOARD AT THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING, UM, WE WERE OPERATING UNDER TREASURY'S INTERIM ROLE AND I DISCUSSED, UH, THE FACT THAT REVENUE REPLACEMENT IS AN ALLOWABLE USE OF FUNDS, THE FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE, PARTIALLY FUNDS, UM, TREASURY PROVIDED US WITH METHODOLOGY.
SO WHICH GROUP OF WHAT, WHAT MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? THIS IS OUR DIRECT $13.3 MILLION PAYMENT FROM THE SCORE RECOVERY BENEFIT FROM TREASURY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THAT, WASN'T PART OF THE, UH, NOT THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT FUNDS.
IT'S A BIG PART OF THE AMERICAN RECOVERY BILLION DOLLARS.
THERE WERE ALSO PAYMENTS THAT WERE MADE OUT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
HOW CAN YOU DIVIDED THIS THING? THIS BIG MONSTER UP LOCAL LOCAL.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE CALCULATION TO GET THE 13 POINTS OR EIGHT, NO WORDS WE HAD TO JUST HAD TO SOMEHOW COME UP WITH, BUT THERE NEVER WAS MEDIC FORMULA THAT EQUALS 13.3.
DO YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN? SO THE ANSWER IS NO, THE, THE LEGISLATION DEFINE HOW MUCH EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT GOT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
WHAT, WHAT GREG HAS ATTEMPTED TO EXPLAIN IN GOOD LUCK IS THE SUBSEQUENT RULES THAT CAME OUT THAT SAID WHAT, HOW WE COULD CALCULATE LOST REVENUE AND WHAT'S, AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS.
AND WE SAID IT IN HIS PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND SOME OF OUR WRITTEN STUFF IS THIS, THIS IS A METHODOLOGY FOR COMING UP WITH A NUMBER UNDER THE LAW AND THE RULES.
IT'S REALLY ONLY SOMEWHAT RELATED TO OUR ACTUAL FINANCIAL CONDITION.
AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT, I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IS YOUR POINT.
HERE ARE THE 11.7 UNDER THEIR RULES.
WE CAN TAKE THAT MUCH AND BASICALLY PASS IT THROUGH OUR BUDGET.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GET INTO ALL THE CONVOLUTED REPORTING AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT GOT PROPORTIONATELY A LOT MORE MONEY.
SO THEY GOT MORE, BUT THEY ALSO GOT TONS OF RULES AND HOOPS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BECAUSE OF THIS THING IN THE LAW THAT SAID, UH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ASSUME THAT, BUT FOR THE PANDEMIC YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THIS AMOUNT OF REVENUE AND THAT'S BEEN OUR HOOK, WHICH HAS GREATLY SIMPLIFIED THE WAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEPLOY THIS MONEY.
IS THAT, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 13.3, EXCEPT THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAD TO WORK WITH, BUT THIS DIDN'T, THIS, THIS CALCULATION HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DETERMINING HOW MUCH WE GOT.
SO, SO WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT CALCULATION AT, TO SIMPLIFY HOW WE DEPLOY THE FUNDS AND TO AVOID ALL KINDS OF, OKAY.
AND I'LL GLOSS OVER THE REST OF THIS CAUSE I THINK WE'VE COVERED IT, BUT, UH, YES, ESSENTIALLY TREASURY PROVIDED US WITH SO-CALLED LOST REVENUE DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND UNDER THEIR NEW RULE THAT THEY JUST ISSUED ON JANUARY 6TH FINAL RULE, THEY ACTUALLY INCREASED THEIR GROWTH ASSUMPTION FROM 4.1 TO 5.2%, WHICH BRINGS OUR CALCULATED LOSSES DOWN 14.7 MILLION, WHICH MEANS THAT THE ENTIRETY OF OUR $13.3 MILLION ALLOCATION IS ELIGIBLE FOR REVENUE REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT MAKES THE REPORTING VERY, VERY GO BACK AND ASK THEM, GIVE US 3 MILLION MORE.
IF THE RULE HADN'T CHANGED AND WE GOT MORE THAN 11.7, WE ORIGINALLY CALCULATED, I HAD TO GIVE SOME MONEY BACK OR WE HAD JUST JUMPED THROUGH MORE HOOPS HERE.
WOULD I'M WHAT MONEY, WHAT MONEY? I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING.
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I BRIEFED THE BOARD ON THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPENDING THESE FUNDS THAT THEY FOCUS ON ONE TIME EXPENSES AND THAT THE BULK OF THESE SAVINGS BEING PLANNED FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, UH, SPECIFICALLY THAT WE USE APPROXIMATELY 80% FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, 10% FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND 10% AS A CONTINGENCY FOR OTHER ONE-TIME COUNTY FUNDS.AND SINCE THAT BRIEFING, THE BOARD HAS TAKEN SOME ACTION ON THREE SPECIFIC ITEMS, AND THEY'VE ALSO BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDED CIP FOR CONSIDERATION ONE SECOND.
SO IF I CAN DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FIRST THREE DETAIL ITEMS UNDER EXPENDITURES, UH, THESE ARE THE ONE-TIME RETENTION INCENTIVE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, UH, CONTRACT TO EXTEND DARK FIBER TO UPPER COUNTY FACILITIES AND THE PURCHASE OF AN AMBULANCE FROM THE NEW FIRE STATION SEVEN.
UH, THE BOARD HAS TAKEN ACTION ALREADY ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. UH, IF YOU START WITH THE RIVERWALK LANDING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THOSE ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE PRELIMINARY CIP THAT YOU WERE BRIEFED ON AT THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING.
SO IF YOU WERE TO ULTIMATELY ADOPT THE CIP IN ITS PRESENT FORM, UH, $12.4 MILLION OF OUR FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS WOULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR, AND THAT WOULD LEAVE US APPROXIMATELY $900,000 REMAINING.
IS THERE ANY PRIORITY TO THE, UH, F THE FIRST THREE AND PRIORITY TO RIVER WALK RIGHT ON DOWN THE MINI BUS? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN DECEMBER, I, I GAVE YOU ALL OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE CIP, AND I WENT INTO IT IN SOME DETAIL.
SO FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THESE WERE THE PRIORITIES.
THESE WERE THE THINGS IN THE UNIVERSE OF THINGS THAT YOU COULD HAVE PUT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THESE WERE THE THINGS WE CAME UP WITH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A, A DIFFERENT RATIONALE IN EACH CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CASE OF RIVERWALK, IT'S, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RENOVATE THAT 17 YEAR OLD FACILITY WITH FUNDS WE WOULD OTHERWISE NOT HAVE, UH, IN THE CASE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, UH, WHERE THAT'S A VERY BIG PROJECT.
AND WE ASSUME THAT THE PRICES WILL COME IN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD PLANNED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A CUSHION FOR THE NEW SHERIFF'S BUILDING AND GO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
WELL, IF WE DON'T USE IT ALL, IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT RULE THAT GREG AND I HOUR TRYING TO EXPLAIN, IT'S JUST OUR MONEY AND WE CAN PUT IT BACK IN RESERVES OR ANYTHING LEFTOVER.
YOU MIGHT, AS YOU KNOW, IN A CAP, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IN A CAPITAL BUDGET, IT'S BASICALLY ALL PLANTED AND NOTHING EVER COMES OUT EXACTLY THAT IT WAS SO, BUT BECAUSE OF THE RULE THAT GREG WAS EXPLAINING THERE, THIS IS REALLY JUST THE COUNTY'S MONEY.
IT'S JUST HERE ONE TIME, AND THEN THAT'S IT REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK.
IF YOU COULD REFRESH MY MEMORY ON, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'VE GOT A, A $3 MILLION CONTRIBUTION TO THE, YOUR COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION AND A $1.5 MILLION PARK SPACE AND DESIGN.
WHAT REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT? CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF YOU RECALL, THEY WERE, THEY WERE KIND OF RELATED IDEAS.
WE PRESENTED A, A LIST OF SMALL SCHOOL, MOSTLY ATHLETIC RELATED THINGS THAT WERE, UH, KIND OF SPRINKLED AROUND THEIR FACILITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
I THINK THE SINGLE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE WAS THE REDO OF THE BRUTON FOOTBALL FIELD, BUT THERE WERE LOTS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT ON THE TAB PLAYGROUND AND, UH, UM, THINGS THAT, UM, THE SCHOOLS HAVE LONG HAD ON THEIR LIST, BUT IN THE NORMALCY I P P PROCESS DIDN'T REALLY MAKE THE CUT VERSUS SECURITY UPGRADES AND HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IT WAS, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS APPEALING ON THE COUNTY SIDE OF THAT IS MANY OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE ALSO USED OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL TIME BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THEN ON THE COUNTY PART OF THAT, THAT SHOWS UP IN THE RECOMMENDED CIP, UH, I THINK TWO YEARS OUT SPREAD OUT AND WE KIND OF THREW OUT SOME IDEAS OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE USED FOR, BUT WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF A COUPLE OF YEARS TO THINK THAT THROUGH THE IDEA THERE WAS, UH, BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER PRIORITIES IN THE CIP.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY INVESTED VERY MUCH DISCRETIONARY MONEY IN OUR PARK FACILITIES IN RECENT YEARS.
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SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU ALL ASKED ME, WELL, WHAT WOULD BE ON YOUR LIST? AND ONE I THREW OUT WAS, UH, WHERE THE SCHOOL SITE IS AT THE MARQUEE.YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE WE DID AT KILL CREEK AND, YOU KNOW, PUT IN SOME BALL FIELDS OR SOMETHING.
UH, SO THERE'D BE IN A GREEN AREA IN THAT AREA.
A NEW QUARTER PARK IS A GIGANTIC PARK WITH A TEENY TINY CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
UM, AND, AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER ONES.
SO, SO BRYAN FULLER WAS KIND OF LEADING A, SORT OF AN, AN IDEA PROCESS ON THAT ONE, WHICH AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE'VE GOT THE LUXURY OF A COUPLE OF YEARS TO, TO KICK AROUND.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IT'S OUR CASH MONEY.
UH, AND FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECT COMES IN MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE THOUGHT, THEN WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVISIT THAT YOU WOULD TRY ON THE DOOR AND THE QUARTER PARK, IS THIS A NEW TREND? WELL, IT MAY CHANGE THE, UH, A SOLIDATION WAS THAT MOVING PHYSICAL HARDWARE? THAT'S, THAT'S THE BUILDING IDEA OF, SORRY, GREG, I'M TALKING TOO MUCH.
UM, SO WE HAVE THIS, UH, THESE INTERRELATED FACILITY PLANS.
AND SO, UH, THE CURRENT SEQUENCE AS IT'S PROPOSED IN THE CIP, AND WE HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE REALIZE NEW THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURE MORE STUFF OUT.
SO WHEN WE CONSOLIDATE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE BUILDING SAFETY BUILDING BECOMES VACANT, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEW HOME OF CONSOLIDATED IT OVER BY PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THERE'S TWO REASONS TO DO THAT.
THIS IS THE MONEY TO DO THAT, RIGHT.
UH, ONE REASON IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE OUR IN-HOUSE SERVERS IN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS WHERE WE HAVE A MUCH SUPERIOR FACILITY.
AND THE OTHER REASON IS WE NEED TO GET IT OUT OF THE FINANCE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S ENOUGH FAKEST SPACE THERE TO RENOVATE THE SITE, TO FINANCE, BUILDING ONE FLOOR AT A TIME.
SO WE HAVEN'T HIRED SOMEBODY TO FIGURE THAT OUT YET, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA IS WITH HR AND IT, OUT OF THAT BUILDING, WE CAN RENOVATE ONE FLOOR, KEEPING THE OPERATIONAL SERVICES ON THE OTHER FLOOR AND THEN MOVE EVERYBODY TO THE OTHER FLOOR AND DO THE OTHER.
SO IT'S ALL THIS SORT OF INTERRELATED THINGS.
THIS IS PERSONNEL AND HOG REP MOVING WELL.
YEAH, BUT IT'S REALLY GETTING THE FACILITY READY FOR THEM TO MOVE.
WHAT ABOUT RACE FOR SPACE LEFT RACE, HORSE PLACE, OR WE HAVE TO BLOW THAT.
I TAKE, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE RENOVATION, SO WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
SOONER OR LATER, THE ISSUE OF TAXES WILL COME UP IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
UH, NEITHER INCREASED TAXES, REAL I'M TALKING REAL ESTATE, UH, AND, OR TAMPER WITH THE TAX RATE, RIGHT.
IF WE WANTED TO ENSURE NOT TO RAISE TAXES EITHER WAY FOR TAX PAYING CITIZENS.
THE REASON I ASKED THE PRIORITY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PRIORITY HERE.
THESE ARE ONE TIME DOLLARS AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM CPI PROGRAM IS NOT ONE TIME DOLLARS.
IT COMES OUT, ARE THEY THE REVENUE THAT POURS INTO THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THE TAXING PROCESS AND SO FORTH.
SO WHAT SAYING FOOD FOR THOUGHT, THIS IS EARLY ON, IT WAS PROCESSED FOOD FOR SALT.
AND HOW DO WE PRECLUDE IF IN FACT, THE ADMINISTRATOR CAME TO THE BOARD, WHENEVER THAT OCCURS, IT SAYS, LOOK, IF WE'RE SHORT, WE'RE SHORT BUCKS, UH, X PERCENT OF WHATEVER.
AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT BY THE RAISING OF THE JACK'S FLIPPER TEMPORARY WITH THE TAX RATE, TO WHAT EXTENT WOULD THE LOWER PRIORITY THINGS THAT ARE NOW CIP WITH ONE W ONE TIME DOLLARS, TO WHAT EXTENT CAN THOSE ONE TIME DOLLARS BE MOVED INTO THE DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS TO PRECLUDE HAVING TO PUT, RAISE IT, THE TAX, EITHER THE TAX RATE OR THE TAX BILL FOR THE SAC, DANE, CITIZEN FOOD FOR THOUGHT, OKAY.
I MEAN, JUST MORE COMPLICATED PROBABLY THAN I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND SO, BUT, UH, SO YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY BIG QUESTION IN GENERAL.
UH, I THINK, UH, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR ONE TIME THINGS WE SHOULD NOT GET SUCKED INTO USING THIS MONEY TO SORT OF SUBSIDIZE THE OPERATING BUDGET BECAUSE IT WILL GO AWAY.
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AND, YOU KNOW, AS GREG HAS BRIEFED OVER 90% OF THIS MONEY IS USED FOR ONE-TIME THINGS.NOW IT IS TRUE THAT TO, TO FINANCE THE CAPITAL BUDGET AS, AS WE HAVE BEEN MOVING IT ALONG IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, WE ARE PROVIDING CASH FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET TO HOLD OUR DEBT DEBT.
SO THIS IS A FORM OF CASH THAT CAN BE USED IN THAT WAY.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, SETTING SOME OF IT ASIDE FOR THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING WOULD BE SAME EXACT THING AS OPPOSED TO MORE DEBT.
SO, UM, UH, BUT RECALL, UH, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ONE OF THE VERY BEST THINGS THIS BOARD HAS DONE IN RECENT YEARS IS HAVE A REAL FUNDING PLAN FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET ON THE COUNTY SIDE IS 50% NON DEBT FUNDED.
AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL, NO MATTER HOW ELSE YOU, YOU SLICE IT.
AND IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE TAXES AND THE OPERATING BUDGET AND WHAT WE MIGHT DO TO ME, THE, THE, AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS, MY GREATEST CONCERN FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR CONTROL.
AND THAT IS IF THE STATE DOESN'T LAY WITH THE LOCAL GROCERY TAX, UH, WHICH IS ON THE TABLE, UH, THAT WILL TAKE $3 MILLION, 2% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET REVENUE AWAY.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER PROBABLY BEFORE WE KNOW WHETHER THE STATE DOES THAT OR NOT.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO HOPE THAT WISER HEADS PER FAIL, AND THAT DOES NOT OCCUR, UH, BECAUSE IF WE SUDDENLY LOSE A THIRD OF OUR NEW REVENUE AND 2% OF THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ALL WANT TO DO.
AT THIS POINT, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS SET OF TASKS THAT R AND D DAY ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, CHUNK OF CHANGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT, BUT WE HAVE A LARGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WITH DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF JUST ONE SOLUTION TO THE TAX ISSUE MIGHT BE TO THINK ABOUT MOVING SOME DOLLARS AROUND, OKAY, FOOD FOR THOUGHT YOUR COMMENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHICH MAKES THE BUDGET BUILDER VERY EXCITING.
THAT'S A CHALLENGE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT IN ANY CASE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IN THE PLAN TO SPEND THE ARPA MONEY.
BUT FOR THE LAST PIECE THAT WE'VE NOT REALLY WEIGHED IN, NONE OF YOU HAVE REALLY WEIGHED IN ON SO FAR.
THANK YOU FOR LEANING INTO THAT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, WHAT YOU PROPOSED, IT'S MORE OF A, UH, TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TAKEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, 13 MILLION, UM, UH, ONE TIME FUNDS TRIED THEM TO MOST EFFICIENTLY, UH, DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS.
SO YOU KIND OF JUST, JUST KIND OF, UH, ALMOST, IT'S NOT JUST A PEANUT BUTTER SPREAD.
THE MONEY ACROSS MULTIPLE PROGRAMS IS THE DRIVE TO BE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF THAT MONEY FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT HERE, A LITTLE BIT THERE DOING THE THINGS THAT ARE PRIORITIZED, RIGHT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD APPROACH IT.
PART OF THIS IS THERE'S MANY OF THE THINGS ON THAT LIST ARE PROBLEMS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SOLVE WHETHER WE HAVE THIS MONEY OR NOT.
AND SO IF WE CAN KNOCK OUT SOME OF THESE WITH THIS MONEY, THOSE ARE JUST, UH, THAT TAKES PRESSURE OFF THE REGULAR PROCESS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCY OF THE USE OF MONEY HERE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT DEBT, WE TALK ABOUT INFLATION, TALK ABOUT TAXES AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF STUFF, UH, WITH THIS MONEY THOUGH, WE'VE ADDED SOME NEW THROUGH, THANKS, RIGHT.
THAT YOU SAID THAT WE'RE ON A, ON A, A WISHLIST, IF YOU WILL, THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT INITIALLY BASED UPON THE CLIENTS.
SORT OF WHAT WALT'S GETTING TO IS THAT EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU REACH A POINT WHERE YEAH, YOU GOT THE FUNDS WHEN YOU LOSE THEM, YOU GOT TO START CUTTING BACK.
AND SO DO WE JUST REVERSE OUT OF WHAT YOU PROPOSE IF WE LOSE THE MEALS OR THE GROCERY TAX, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF STRATEGIES? UM, CERTAINLY ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO STRONGLY THINK ABOUT RECOMMENDING WOULD BE LOCKING DOWN THE CAPITAL BUDGET BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON DEBT SERVICE ON THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT THAT HAS TREMENDOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR THE COMMUNITY, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED AND UNDERWAY.
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AND THERE'S NO ONE ANSWER AND YOU CAN SELECTIVELY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME THINGS AND DELAY SOME THINGS.UM, AND THERE'S SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE SPREAD OUT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
AND JUST LIKE IN, IN ALL OF THIS, WE WOULD HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR RECOMMENDED CIP.
SO EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL GET TO REVISIT THAT IN ANY CASE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHATEVER ELSE HAS HAPPENED.
SO, UM, YEAH, BUT, BUT I, I, I DO THINK THE IDEA OF FIXING A BUNCH OF SMALLER PROBLEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE NOT OTHERWISE COME UP WITH A WAY TO DEAL WITH IS, IS AN APPEALING WAY TO USE THIS ONE-TIME MONEY.
I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, THIS DUDE'S DAY SKY IS FALLING KIND OF THING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT.
I MEAN, I JUST, LOT OF TIMES IT CAUSES HYSTERIA AND CERTAIN AREAS OF THE GOVERNMENT, BUT IT JUST STRIKES ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I MADE THIS COMMENT ONCE BEFORE IS THAT PEOPLE GO UP THERE AND YOU KNOW, THEY GO, RAH, RAH, ROB, WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK THIS.
AND IN THE END, IT COMES BACK DOWN ON US TO HAVE TO GO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BAND-AID THIS THING TO MAKE IT WORK.
UH, SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO IN THE PAST WITH MANIPULATING OUR CIP BASED UPON THE REALITY OF WHAT WE CAN'T AFFORD.
CAN'T WE PUSHED OUR PUSHING THINGS OFF ON THE OUT.
AND THEN, AND THEN WHAT YOU DO IS YOU FALL FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND, OR YOU ENDED UP HAVING TO RAISE TAXES TO COVER IT BECAUSE YOU NEED IT.
THIS IS A DIVERSION, EXCUSE ME, SHEILA, IT'S A DIVERSION, UH, IS WHAT I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT HERE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO HOW DO WE SPEND MONEY? YOU KNOW? AND, AND SO I'VE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, W WE'RE WE'RE WRITING AFTER DISCUSSING THINGS, TO ME, IT'S KIND OF SOFT BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN OF WHAT'S THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, SO, BUT BIG ITEMS LIKE TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, COMPLICATION FOR EMPLOYEES, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE DOING, WE GET TO MAKE SURE WE, WE DISCUSSED THE PRIORITY ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
IF IT GETS CUT, NO ARGUMENT WITH ME ON THAT.
THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT THE TOPIC, UH, TOM REMEMBER DURING THE RECESSION, HOW WE, WE REALLY CUT BACK ON THE CIP.
WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE TOOK CARE OF THE SERVICE THINGS THAT WE DID FOR OUR PEOPLE.
AND SO IT'S TAKEN US TIME TO BUILD UP THE CIP OR AT LEAST HAVE A PRACTICAL PLAN TO DO GREAT OVER THE YEARS OF PUTTING RCIP BACK TOGETHER, WE'VE DONE WELL BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG TIME COMING, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, AND REMEMBER WE GOT A NERVE, REMEMBER WE HIT A NERVE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING 12 OFFICERS OUT OF THE, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS HOW BAD IT GOT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING, WHEN IT HAPPENS UP THERE COMES ROLLING DOWN HERE.
THAT'S WHERE THE REALITY BECOMES THE DEEP, WHAT DO YOU DEFUND? OKAY.
WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTIONED IT BECAUSE, UM, YOU REALIZE THAT WE PAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CHAIR.
STEPHANIE'S 50%, 55%, AND IT'S A GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUPPOSED TO FUND THAT.
YOU'LL GET A BIG ARGUMENT FROM THEM ON THAT.
OH, WELL, I KNOW THAT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ARE PROBABLY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE STATE, BUT THERE'S NOT A SCHOOL.
I KNOW WE ALL GO THROUGH THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT RUNS DOWNHILL AND WE GET STUCK WITH IT, BUT NONE OF THEM, I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO BRACE THEMSELVES FOR THE REALITY OF THE, GET THE BIG FLAG OUT, MAN, LET'S GO OUT THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO CUT THIS.
AND THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, RAH, RAH, RAH, IN THE END, IT COMES DOWN TO US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE PATCH THESE THINGS UP AND MAKE IT WORK.
AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING FOR ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT TRIES TO TAKE AN EASY ROAD AND JUST COMES OUT WITH SOME CRAP ABOUT, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE GOTTA TAKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THINK $3 MILLION OF THE FOOD TAX OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD AND THEN TWO AND A HALF.
CAUSE THAT HELPING, BECAUSE IN THE END WE GOT TO GO PUT THE MONEY POSSIBLY ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND THEN START GETTING EVERYBODY STIRRED UP.
SO, I MEAN, PEOPLE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO SOME OF THIS, THIS, THIS SHELL GAME ACTION WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE ANYWAY, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND MOVE ON AND WORK SESSIONS ON THE BUDGET.
UM, SO WE'RE UP TO OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS NOW FOR THE REMAINDER OF THESE FUNDS, UH, APPROXIMATELY $900,000.
UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CARVE OUT $250,000
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FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT.UM, 200,000 OF THAT WOULD BE FOR EXISTING COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES PROGRAMS. AND THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY A STAFF COMMITTEE OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND FINANCE, UM, FOR MOSTLY FOR INDIVIDUAL HOUSING AND UTILITIES RELIEF FOR PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER 50,000, WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT IT BE ALLOCATED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES, GRANTS, ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD AS PART OF THE NORMAL BUDGET, OUR ALLOCATIONS TO OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
UH, WE WOULD JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THESE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL ONE-TIME FUNDS AND NOT AN ONGOING INCREASE IN OUR ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE REMAINDER WE WOULD KEEP FOR CONTINGENCY FOR CODE RELATED EXPENSES LIKE PPE AND TESTING SUPPLIES AND FOR OUR RESERVES.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR THE AB CONTRIBUTIONS BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT STUFF.
WE CAN'T MAKE THEM WHOLE, BUT WE CAN MAKE, SO WE DO HAVE AN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT ENVISION THAT 200,000 BEING DEPLOYED.
UH, WE HAVE MARGARET OR DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES HERE AND ABBOTT WHO RUNS OUR HOUSING OFFICE, BRIAN FULLER.
AND WE WOULD ENVISION THEM BEING KEY STAFF PEOPLE BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES ARE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS.
AND, UM, FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING SPECIAL, UH, ALLOCATIONS OF MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE THROUGH ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, OTHER PARTS OF THE PROGRAMS GREG WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT'S NOW ALL GOING AWAY.
AND SO ALL ALONG, WE HAD SAID, WE NEED TO SET ASIDE SOME SMALL PIECE OF THIS FOR THAT KIND OF THING.
AND WE NEVER REALLY DEFINED, WELL, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW WOULD WE DO IT? SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ADVANCE THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL.
AND BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING, UH, KIND OF PEEL THAT BACK IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND SAY 250,000 FOR THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THE REST OF IT JUST BASICALLY HOLD ONTO IT FOR A CONTINGENCY OR RESERVES.
UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GOT IT WITH DANCE, A CONVERSATION, CAUSE WE'VE BEEN KIND OF SAYING THE SAME THING FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
UM, SO, BUT, BUT AVID AND MARGARET, UH, PROBABLY COULD SHARE SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OR SOME THINGS THEY'RE DEALING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE FUNDS COULD PROBABLY HELP WITH OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM AND UP HERE.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT, UH, OF THE LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE EVICTION PREVENTION FUNDS.
WE'VE WORKED BOTH WITH THE STATE AND PRIVATE RENT RELIEF PROGRAM.
AND ALSO WE WERE FUNDED THROUGH THE, UH, WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITY HEALTH FOUNDATION.
SO WE, UH, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET A $300,000 GRANT AWARD FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM WHERE WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING, UM, FAMILIES WHO LIVE, UH, FACED EVICTION.
UH, AND FOR THAT PROGRAM, WE HAD TO HAVE A COVID RELATED EXPENSE.
A LOT OF IT WAS PARENTS WHO HAD TO HOMESCHOOL THEIR KIDS THAT HAD TO STAY HOME WITH THEM.
UM, UH, PEOPLE WHO WERE, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE AT THE SHIP YARD WHO ARE HAVING TO, UH, UH, ISOLATE AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID FOR THAT.
SO THEY'RE GETTING, AND THEY CONTINUALLY BEING SENT HOME.
SO WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN HAD A $27 PAYCHECK AFTER HIS HEALTH INSURANCE CAME OUT.
SO HELPING THEM MAKE THEIR RENTAL EXPENSES WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, MARGARET AND I HAVE BOTH BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WITH LIKE UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
THAT PARTICULAR ONE THAT GREG MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE HAS BEEN MORE WITH OUR, UH, OUR, OUR WATER AND SEWER.
BUT WHAT WE SEE MORE OF IS THE MINION DOMINION POWER ASSESSMENTS.
WE GET A LOT OF THOSE, UM, AND THAT'S IMPACTING PEOPLE, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, FAMILIES THAT, UH, TYPICALLY THE, MY, UH, OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS WHERE WE DO THE HOME REPAIR OR THE HOME ASSISTANCE WHERE, UH, INCOME HAS JUST BEEN PINCHED, SO THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, AN INCREASE THERE AS WELL, WHERE, UM, RUSE, HEATING SYSTEM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE KIND OF GETTING PUSHED FROM ALL FRONTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN, UM, UH, REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE FOR SOME OF OUR, OUR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE PROJECTS THAT MARGARET AND I COORDINATE ON.
SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS, WHAT ABOUT OUR LOCAL UTILITIES LIKE NEWPORT, DO YOU WANT TO WORK? SO THEY CHIP IN AND HELP GIVE PEOPLE RELIEF FOR
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THEIR WATER BILL.AND I HAVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO THE POINT, NEIL MADE IT'S A LOT OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE GOING AWAY.
UM, AND THERE WAS, UM, ARPA MONEY FOR THAT.
AND AS THAT STARTS TO DRY UP, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, UH, PROGRAMS GO, UM, SUNSET THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN INCREASE.
WELL, I THOUGHT YOU LIKE TO ANA UM, NO, I THINK AVID DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES AND THE ASSISTANTS, WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS NEGOTIATING DOWN AMOUNTS.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE REQUESTS THAT BOTH HIS DEPARTMENT, MY DEPARTMENT RECEIVES THESE ARE EXORBITANT BILLS.
THESE ARE BILLS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID FOR LIKE TWO YEARS.
SO WE'RE TALKING LIKE 1500, $2,000.
SO EVEN AS WE WORK TO NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO TAKE IT DOWN, BUT SO MUCH BECAUSE MORATORIUMS ARE BEING LIFTED, UM, SAME AS HAPPENING IN SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THE DIFFERENT BENEFIT PROGRAMS, WHERE WE SAW THE INCREASE UP TO 200% OF POVERTY LEVEL FOR ELIGIBILITY.
AND THEN THERE WAS NO RECRUIT RENEWAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR MEDICAID.
SO NOW WE'RE HAVING ALL THESE APPLICATIONS FOR INSURANCE, AGAIN, BECAUSE THE STATE AS OF DECEMBER HAS NOW STARTED ENFORCING BACK THESE RULES, THAT FOR THE LAST TWO PLUS YEARS, THEY HAVE NOT.
UM, THE HOUSING SITUATION IS SOMETHING THAT ADDED AND I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
IT'S, IT'S A NEED FOR HOUSING ONE, BUT THE HOMELESSNESS PORTION IS SECOND PART OF THAT.
AND THEN IT'S THE AVAILABILITY OF WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
UM, BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DO PROVIDE TEMPORARY SHELTER ASSISTANCE VIA THROUGH HOTELS OR WHATEVER, THAT'S VERY LIMITED FUNDING USUALLY, YOU KNOW, NO, NO MORE THAN TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN IT BECOMES WELL, IS THERE AVAILABILITY? YOU MAY HAVE ONLY FOUR OR FIVE PROVIDERS THAT ARE EVEN WILLING TO WORK WITH US OR TAKE OUR CLIENTS SO THAT WE CAN FIND THEM THAT HOUSING WHEN IT'S NEEDED.
SO THERE REALLY IS IRONICALLY THIS LARGER POT OF LIKE COVID CARES ACT AND ARPA MONEY, BECAUSE WHAT DOESN'T FIT IN THE SYSTEM, WE END UP WITH LIKE SPECIAL WELFARE NEEDS AND SPECIAL SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GO TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
SO THERE IS A GREAT NEED FOR IT.
AND I'M GLAD THAT, UM, NEIL, AND OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU ON THE BOARD ARE CONSIDERING IT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE INUNDATED WITH A DAILY.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD THAT I KNOW HAS IMPACTED BOTH OF US IS BECAUSE, UM, OUR TYPICAL WINTER SHELTERS ARE NOT OPERATING AT THE, AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY WERE SO WERE A LOT OF, UM, WE'RE ENDED UP PUTTING A LOT OF PEOPLE UP IN HOTELS AND, AND THAT IT'S, IT'S A STRAIN IN THE SYSTEM AND RESTRAINING, STRAINING OUR BUDGETS.
AND IN PARTICULAR I, THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT POINT.
UM, SO OUR WINTER SHELTER PROGRAM, ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENING TO US RIGHT NOW IS THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH US THAT WE TYPICALLY COULD REFER PEOPLE TO.
THEY SAY, WE'RE CLOSE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, AND WE WON'T OPEN BACK UP UNTIL SUNDAY, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU CAN'T HAVE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE ON THE STREET OR INDIVIDUALS OF ANY KIND, YOU KNOW, 48 HOURS WITHOUT A PLACE TO GO.
IT'S JUST, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THEM? WE TRY TO FIND THEM TEMPORARY PLACEMENT AT A HOTEL.
OF COURSE, WE WORK THROUGH DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. IT'S NOT OUR FIRST GO TO, WE TRY TO FIND OUT FAMILY.
WE TRY TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S CHURCHES, IF THERE'S LOCAL, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH A HOST OF SYSTEMS BEFORE WE GET TO THE, YES, LET'S PAY FOR A HOTEL, BUT THEN EVEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, SOMETIMES IT'S, WE HAVE NO MORE VACANCIES BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO LAST A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO BE USED FOR THAT.
SO IN THE END, DO WE END UP WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET? I CAN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AND I THINK AVID WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT NOT JUST AS YOUR COUNTY, WE WILL WORK WITH OUR OTHER COUNTIES FOR THIS POPULATION THAT I'M SPEAKING TO.
IF I MAY BE QUITE FRANK ROTATES BETWEEN THE TREAT, THE THREE CITIES.
SO, UM, SOMETIMES IF THEY CAN'T GET THE ASSISTANCE IN ONE PLACE, THEY WILL RELOCATE TO ONE OF THE OTHER LOCALITIES.
IS THAT A PERFECT SYSTEM? IT'S NOT, UM, DOES IT HAPPEN? IT DOES.
WELL, UP UNTIL THIS YEAR, MAYBE WAS THE PANDEMIC.
UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL CHURCHES THAT HAD FORMAL PROGRAMS TO HOW'S THE COVID.
YEAH, THOSE DON'T EXIST AS REALLY, NO, I MEAN, WE HA WE HAVE SOME THIS YEAR, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WE DID A VIRTUAL, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES, ABBOTT AND HIS TEAM.
WE DID A VIRTUAL, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, PROVIDER TO TRY TO NETWORK EVERYBODY BACK TOGETHER, UM, BECAUSE NO ONE WAS MEETING IN PERSON TO DO.
IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN YOU CAN'T MAKE THOSE FACE-TO-FACE CONNECTIONS HAVE AN OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THREE-DAY FAIR
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WHERE YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE ON BOARD, YOU'RE GETTING DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, YOU'RE GETTING DIFFERENT PRIORS.YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU'RE GETTING THE RELIGIOUS, UH, SECTOR IN THERE.
BUT NO, THAT HAS TAKEN THE BIGGEST HIT, NOT JUST FOR, UM, SHELTER EITHER.
I MEAN, CHILDCARE IS ANOTHER ONE.
SO IF I COULD JUST ADD ON TO OUR, OUR THOUGHT HERE IS WE STILL NEED TO REFINE THIS, BUT THE SYSTEMS THEY WORK WITH CURRENTLY AND THE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY THEY HAVE AND ALL THEY, ALL, THEY COME BURDENED WITH A LOT OF RULES.
AND LOTS OF TIMES WHAT WE HEAR IS THEY HAVE INDIVIDUAL FAMILY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY PARTIALLY MATCHES UP WITH THE RESOURCE OR THE RULES.
AND IF WE HAD THIS KIND OF SOME WHERE, YOU KNOW, A STAFF TEAM THAT, THAT CROSS THOSE DEPARTMENTAL FUNCTIONS COULD WORK, IT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD COME UP WITH A STRATEGY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN INDIVIDUAL FAMILY.
AND BECAUSE OF WHAT GREG EXPLAINED ABOUT THE ROOM, UH, THERE'S NO LIKE ANTS IN OUR PANTS DEADLINE TO SPEND THIS MONEY.
SO, I MEAN, IF, IF WE HAVE THIS ALLOCATION AND, UH, WE CAN, IT TAKES US THREE YEARS TO USE IT.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE A TOOL BEYOND THE NORMAL SYSTEM THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA.
THE OTHER PART, THE, UM, THE PART THAT WOULD, UM, GO TO THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE, OUR THOUGHT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PROCESS.
I ALWAYS THINK OF IT AS THE WALT ACRES COMMITTEE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE ALL THESE CITIZENS THAT ARE GAYS AND THEY, THEY HEAR AND LOOK INTO WHAT THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT THIS BODY SUPPORTS, BUT THAT'S LITTLE BITS OF ONGOING OPERATING MONEY.
AND EACH OF THOSE NONPROFIT ENTITIES HAS THEIR OWN SET OF PROBLEMS, PARTLY RELATED TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO THIS WOULD BE LET THAT GROUP WHO ALREADY UNDERSTANDS ALL THESE NONPROFITS AND ALREADY MAKES ALLOCATIONS, LET THEM KIND OF RUN A PARALLEL APPLICATION FOR ONE-TIME THINGS.
MAYBE SOMEBODY'S COMPUTER BROKE, OR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR VAN NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR, YOU KNOW, UH, THEIR TELEPHONE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED AND, AND LET THAT COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS ALREADY SORT OF DEVELOPED THAT UNDERSTANDING WITH ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
UH, BUT AGAIN, DO DO THAT KIND OF THING, BUT WITH THE SAME PHILOSOPHY, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME OLD.
SO THOSE WERE OUR THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AS FOREIGN AS WE REFINED OUR IDEA AT THIS POINT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ON AVERAGE, ARE YOU HELPING OUT WITH HOUSING? UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH PROGRAM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, UH, EVICTION PREVENTION, UH, WE, UH, SINCE WE RECEIVED THAT, I GUESS THAT WAS EARLY LAST SUMMER, WE'VE HAD HELPED 78 ADULTS AND 63 CHILDREN, UM, UH, WITH, UH, THAT WAS OUT OF, UH, UH, 65 HOUSEHOLDS.
SO IN THAT PROGRAM, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 3000 ISH DOLLARS PER HOUSE.
UH, AND THEN WE DO ABOUT 65 TO 70 HOME REPAIR PROJECTS A YEAR THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, UTILITY ASSISTANCE, WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNITED WAY SPECIFICALLY ON THAT PROGRAM.
AND I'D SAY WE'RE DOING IT ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS, FIVE TO 10.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT A HUGE NUMBER OF, UH, MARGARET'S GETTING A LOT MORE OF THOSE.
UM, BUT, UH, THEY ARE VERY, VERY HARD TO QUALIFY FOR THAT PROGRAM.
THE WAY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, THE RISK FACTORS MAKE IT VERY CHALLENGING.
DO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, COME INTO PLAY TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THE HOME REPAIRS OR NOT WITH THAT PARTICULAR, THERE IS, UM, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UM, THERE'S, UH, SOME NONPROFITS THAT, UH, AS A NONPROFIT IN WILLIAMSBURG THAT I ACTUALLY USED TO RUN YEARS AGO THAT DOESN'T HOME REPAIR ASSISTANCE, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS, IS EVEN A LOT OF THOSE HAVE, HAVE REDUCED THEIR, THEIR SERVICE AND CAPACITY BECAUSE THEY, A LOT OF THEM RELY ON VOLUNTEERS AND BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC, YOU JUST HAVEN'T HAD THAT NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE.
SO WE'VE RECEIVED A, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE REQUEST.
WHAT ABOUT THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU NEEDED ANY HELP WITH FINDING HOUSING ACCOMMODATION? HOW MANY? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T DO HAVE ANY LIKE HOUSING, THE LOCATION OR HAVING NAVIGATOR ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN WE, WE TYPICALLY HELP SOME WITH, UM, WE HAD A, A SPECIAL ALLOCATION FROM HUD OF WHAT THEY CALL EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE IMPACTED, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY HOMELESS, UH, POPULATIONS THAT WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOCIAL SERVICE AND OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, THOSE 50 VOUCHERS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, HAVE LOCATION ASSISTANCE TIED TO THEM.
SO, UH, ONE OF MY STAFF HAS WORKED WITH, WITH THAT SPECIFIC SUB-POPULATION, UM, AND WITH MARGARET'S, UH, STAFF, UH, AND IT'S, IT IS A HUGE
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TIME COMMITMENT BECAUSE THE, THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH RENTAL UNITS TO MEET THE DEMAND.UM, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE RIGHT PRICE POINT, EVEN WITH THE, THE, THE PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT WE PROVIDE.
THANK YOU, MR. WOODALL, WITH ONE QUESTION, UH, I'M I TOOK OFF, UH, SIX YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WERE A FEW HOUSES IN THE UPPER PART OF MY DISTRICT, LOWER PART OF WALTZ, A THAT DIDN'T HAVE INDOOR PLUMBING, UH, HAD SUBSTANDARD GROUPS.
I KNOW WE HAD IDENTIFIED THOSE.
UH, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM HAD BEEN, UH, FIXED IN THE, HOW ARE WE DOING WITH THAT, UH, PROJECT? AND DO WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE? UH, THOSE, THOSE TYPE HOUSES, INSTANCES OF HOUSES THAT HAD, UH, UH, DID NOT HAVE INDOOR PLUMBING HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THERE COULDN'T BE ONE OUT THERE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.
UH, THERE IS ONE THAT I KNOW OF, BUT IT'S NOT HABIT THAT THERE'S NO ONE LIVING IN IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, WE, UH, I BELIEVE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OF STARTING BACK, PROBABLY 2005, I THINK WE DID ABOUT 60 PROJECTS THROUGHOUT YOUR COUNTY IN TOTAL.
UH, SOME OF THOSE WEREN'T NECESSARILY LACKING, UM, LACKING INDOOR PLUMBING.
SOME OF THEM WERE, UH, THEY'LL GREASE TRAP SYSTEM, WHICH WASN'T, IT DIDN'T MEET VDH REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR, UH, SANITARY SEPTIC SYSTEM.
SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN THERE AS WELL, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF, OF REALLY TAKING CARE OF THAT.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THERE'S NOT SOME SUBSTANDARD HOUSES THAT WE STILL ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH AND ADDRESS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, BUT, BUT THAT PARTICULAR, TH THIS MONEY COULD HELP FIX THOSE ISSUES IF YES, IF THEY WERE FOUND IN A DRESS.
SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I HAVE MORE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US, COULD I JUST ASK ONE OTHER THING FOR Y'ALL JUST FOR Y'ALL TO PUT, IF IT'S A GREG, COULD YOU JUST DESCRIBE THE REPORTING PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS? YES.
SO WE ISSUED OUR FIRST REPORT TO TREASURY BACK IN AUGUST.
THAT WAS AN INTERIM REPORT WHERE WE REPORTED THE $11.7 MILLION LOSS IN REVENUE.
UM, FROM OUR END, AS NEIL ALLUDED TO EARLIER, IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD BECAUSE REVENUE REPLACEMENT IS AN EXPENSE CATEGORY FOR TREASURY REPORTING.
IT'S COUNTER-INTUITIVE, BUT RIGHT.
SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CLAIM AND UNDER THE EXPENSE OR CLAIM AND UNDER THE REVENUE REDUCTION.
SO, WHICH MEANS IF WE SET UP THIS PROGRAM, IF WE SET UP THIS PROGRAM, UNLIKE THE CARES ACT, IT'S NOT SOME RULE THAT YOU, IF YOU DON'T SPEND IT BY SOMEDAY SOME AUDITORS COMING IN.
IT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS SUPPORT, APPRECIATE THE REPORT NEXT ON THE
[B. Redistricting. Receive presentation from Timothy C. Cross, Deputy Director of Planning and Development Services.]
AGENDA IS REDISTRICTING.UM, SO I'M GOING TO ASK TIM KRAUSE TO JOIN US.
UM, THE, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO, WHEN WAS THAT? IS THAT I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER OF FEMININE, DECEMBER 7TH.
UH, WE HAD OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, UH, RECALL THAT WE, WE WERE UNDER SOME PRESSURE TO, UH, MAKE SOME DECISIONS, BUT THEN WE REALLY COULDN'T BECAUSE WE HADN'T FOUND OUT WHAT THE STATE WAS GOING TO DO.
SO TIM AND THE TEAM, YOU WORK WITH SHARE FOUR IDEAS THAT KIND OF MET THE, THE OVERALL TESTS OF THE 5% VARIATION.
AND, UH, THERE WERE SOME, SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO CONSIDER, UH, WHAT, HOW THINGS MIGHT CHANGE OVER THE NEXT DECADE WITH ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER HOW COMPACT WITH DISTRICTS ARE, WAS ANOTHER THING.
SO WE BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOME IDEAS, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT? AND THEN WE BASICALLY SAID, WE'LL COME BACK AFTER THE STATE MAKES ITS DECISIONS.
THE STATE HAS MADE ITS DECISIONS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, UH, THE WAY CONGRESSIONAL AND STATE DISTRICTS ARE LAID INTO OUR DISTRICTS.
IT DID NOT COMPLICATE OUR WORK VERY MUCH.
AND SO, UM, NOW OF COURSE, NOW THAT THEY'VE DECIDED NOW SUDDENLY THE STATE SAYING YOU HAVE TO HURRY UP AND DECIDE, AND I BELIEVE MR. BARNETT WOULD TELL YOU THAT, UH, IN THEORY, WE NEEDED SIDE AND THEN PROCEEDED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND GET INPUT AND GET ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF BY MARCH.
AND I ACTUALLY ASKED WALTHAM, I JUST SENT HIM AN EMAIL BEFORE THIS MEETING STARTED CLARIFY BECAUSE THE STATE SEVERAL GENERAL ASSEMBLIES THAT GO ADOPTED,
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BASICALLY THE STATE VERSION OF WHAT USED TO BE THE SECTION FIVE OF THE VOTING RIGHTS PRE-CLEARANCE REQUIREMENT.SO EITHER WE HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF APPEALS TO COURT, OR WE CAN SUBMIT IT.
THIS SHOULD BE THE FASTER PROCEDURE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ADMINISTRATION, HOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I THINK MOST LOCALITIES ARE GOING TO TRY, THIS IS YOU SUBMIT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE MUCH AS WE USED TO SUBMIT TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY HAVE UP TO 60 DAYS TO APPROVE.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE ASKING FOR EXPEDITED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THAT ALSO DONE BY MARCH 21, I THINK IS THE DATE THAT, THAT THE STATE WANTS REDISTRICTING TO BE COMPLETED.
AND WE'VE GOT VERY, VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE.
WELL, IF WE HAVE A PRIMARY, DOESN'T, THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE HAVE TO SEND OUT NEW CARDS TO EVERYBODY AND TELL THEM WHERE THEY'RE VOTING AND WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE IN.
WE COULDN'T DO IT ANY FASTER THAN WHAT WE KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE STATE.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THE STATE DIDN'T COME UP WITH THEIR, THEIR BOUNDARIES UNTIL DECEMBER.
WELL, I NOTICED THERE'S A BILL BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ABOUT THE STATE PAIN FOR THIS MAIL OUT.
I HAVE, I'LL HAVE TO TRACK THAT ONE.
I KNOW YOU NEVER HOLD YOUR BREATH, BUT, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE WE HAVE TO PAY.
SO THE QUESTION BASICALLY BOILS DOWN TO, WE TRIED TO DISTILL IT DOWN TO A COUPLE THAT WE THOUGHT HAD THE MOST FAVORABLE REACTION FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION.
AND I GUESS THE PRACTICAL QUESTION IS, UH, DO YOU ALL LIKE ONE OF THESE ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION AND THAT'S ON TIM, UM, GIVE THESE PRODUCT, OH, THE TABLET, AND THIS IS NO, WE WERE WAITING TO SEE IF THEIR OVERLAY ON THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES AND STATE SENATE, UH, MR. TOOL'S GOING TO COMPLICATE LIKE A PRE-SALE SPLIT PRECINCT, BUT NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO ON THE LOCAL DISTRICTS WITHOUT ANY WORRY ABOUT OKAY.
UH, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, UM, UH, YEAH, THOSE ARE THE DISTRICT POPULATIONS, UH, AS THEY STAND ARE, SO THAT IN 2020, UM, THE IDEAL POPULATION AFTER REDISTRICTING WOULD BE 14,041, THE RED LINE THAT YOU SEE THERE, AND THERE WAS A MAXIMUM DEVIATION, A PLUS OR MINUS 5%.
THAT'S THE WHY OUT? SO THE RANGE POPULATION RANGE FOR EACH DISTRICT HAS TO BE BETWEEN 13 AND 3 39 AND 14, 7 43, AS YOU CAN SEE DISTRICTS ONE AND THREE ARE TWO BIG DISTRICTS.
DISTRICT TWO IS TWO SMALL DISTRICT.
AND THE DISTRICT DISTRICT HAVE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE ACCEPTABLE RANGE.
SO THIS IS YOUR CURRENT DISTRICT MAP, WHICH IS THE FIRST MAP IN YOUR LITTLE HANDOUT.
THERE JUST A FEW GENERAL OBSERVATIONS.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, DISTRICT ONE IS TOO BIG AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO EXCEPT DISTRICT THREE, WHICH IS THE ONLY ADJACENT DISTRICT DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH IS AT THE OTHER END OF THE COUNTY.
UM, REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CHANGED AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT POPULATION AND IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS HOW FAR DO WE, UH, UH, SHIFT FROM, OR, UH, EXTEND DISTRICT THREE INTO DISTRICT ONE AND WHAT, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO DISTRICTS TWO AND FOUR HAVE TO BE MADE TO MAKE THE NUMBERS TURN OUT.
WE'VE GOT TWO ALTERNATIVES, A AND B, THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE A ONE AND A TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.
UH, IN FACT, IN DISTRICTS TWO, FOUR, AND FIVE, DO NOT EVEN CHANGE, NOT CHANGE AT ALL RIGHT, UH, BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN A AND B.
SO LET ME JUST LET ME TOGGLE BACK TO THE LAST ONE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, SEE THE CHANGES HERE.
SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE CURRENT DISTRICTS TO ALTERNATIVE A, I MENTIONED, UH, DISTRICT ONE IS TOO BIG.
SO WHAT WE DO IN THIS ALTERNATIVE IS WE SHIFT, UH, THE AREA BETWEEN THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION AND, UH, ROUTE 238, THAT AREA WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHICH INCLUDES THE RIVERWALK TOWNS AND THE WOODS AT YORKTOWN, UH, APARTMENTS.
UH, WE SHIPPED THAT INTO DISTRICT THREE.
AND IN FACT, THAT CHANGED BY ITSELF IS ENOUGH TO GET DISTRICT ONE DOWN TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
HOWEVER, I MENTIONED THAT DISTRICT THREE IS ALREADY TOO LARGE.
SO IF WE ADD TO DISTRICT THREE, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT OF DISTRICT THREE.
SO WE, IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE CHANGES TO DISTRICT, UH, DISTRICTS TWO AND FOUR.
AND SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS ALTERNATIVE, AND I'LL TOTAL BACK THERE, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE
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IT AGAIN.UM, WE TOOK THE AREA BOUNDED BY, UH, UH, FORT EUSTIS BOULEVARD, ROUTE 17 DENBY BOULEVARD AND NEWPORT NEWS CITY LINE.
UH, WE SHIFTED THAT AREA INTO DISTRICT, UH, TWO FROM DISTRICT THREE.
AND, UH, WE ALSO TOOK THE AREA BOUNDED BY, UH, GOODWIN NECK ROAD, WOLF TRAP ROAD, AND, UH, ROUTE 17, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 17.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT CREATORS, ROSEWOOD, UH, WILLOW LAKES.
UH, WE SHIFT THOSE FROM DISTRICT THREE AND TO DISTRICT FOUR, UH, THAT GETS DISTRICT THREE TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY DISTRICT FOUR, UH, BECOMES TOO LARGE.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE TRIANGLE THERE, UH, UH, THE AREA BOUNDED BY BIRCH ROAD, ROUTE 17 AND ORIANA ROAD, WHICH INCLUDES QUAIL HOLLOW MEADOWVIEW DRIVE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE THREE FULL ON PARKS ON ORIENTED ROAD.
UM, WE TAKE THAT AREA AND MOVE IT FROM DISTRICT FOUR TO DISTRICT TWO.
NOW THAT THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET DISTRICT FOUR DOWN TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT THE DISTRICTS HAVE TO BE CONTIGUOUS.
SO WE HAD TO TAKE THAT AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ORIENTED ROAD, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE MAC AND ONE MOBILE HOME PARK AND SHIFT THOUGH THAT AREA, UH, INTO DISTRICT TWO, UH, TO MAKE THE NUMBERS COME OUT.
AND AS I SAID, WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGE TO DISTRICT FIVE BECAUSE IT WASN'T NECESSARY AS FAR AS ALTERNATIVE B.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, UH, IS THAT AN ALTERNATIVE FEE, WE SHIPPED THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION INTO DISTRICT THREE.
SO WE'RE EXTENDING DISTRICT THREE INTO THE UPPER COUNTY, UH, BASICALLY UP TO PENTAGON ROAD.
SO THAT WOULD TAKE IN, UM, UH, MARQUIS HILLS, UM, THE, UH, UH, THE SPRINGFIELD ROAD JONES DRIVE AREA, THE, UH, THE MARQUIS APARTMENTS, WHICH WILL BE BUILT EVENTUALLY A COUPLE OF, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PIPELINE.
I MENTIONED MARQUEE APARTMENTS TODAY, AND YEAH, SO, UH, UH, THE, UH, AS I WAS SAYING, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF, OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE, UH, IN THE UPPER COUNTY, UH, THAT WOULD MOVE FROM DISTRICT ONE TO DISTRICT THREE UNDER THIS ALTERNATIVE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, WHAT'S IT KING'S CREEK, WHICH IS 213 UNITS, SENIOR HOUSING, UH, 263 UNIT MARQUIS APARTMENTS.
AND THEY'RE STILL ABOUT 81 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES YET TO BE BUILT IN THE MARQUIS, UH, MARKET HILLS.
SO THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, UH, UH, OF THIS, UH, ALTERNATIVE IS THAT IT KIND OF PLANS FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
IF YOU REMEMBER THE DECEMBER 7TH PRESENTATION, UH, I SHOWED A SLIDE SHOWING THAT, UH, ALMOST 60% OF THE HOUSING FUTURE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE ARE CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT ONE.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANT TO, TO KEEP SOME KIND OF REASONABLE BALANCE AMONG THE DISTRICT POPULATIONS AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE DECADE, UH, THERE IS, UH, SOME VALUE TO MOVING SOME OF THOSE, UH, FUTURE UNITS IN THE PIPELINE FROM DISTRICT ONE INTO DISTRICT THREE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 555 UNITS.
DOES THAT REFLECT THAT OR WHAT THAT'S REFLECTED IN ALTERNATIVE B, WHICH HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THOSE, UH, AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING, UH, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE A GUESS, BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY NEXT TWO, THREE, PROBABLY FOUR YEARS AT MOST LISTENING TO CHANGE, UM, EXCHANGE PAST THOSE THINGS CAN CHANGE IN A HEARTBEAT.
SO YOU NEVER, THAT'S WHY I DON'T EVEN LIKE, I DON'T LIKE TO GUESS.
UM, SO, UH, SO THE, THE DISADVANTAGE OF THIS, UH, ALTERNATIVE IS THAT, UH, YOU'VE GOT KIND OF A SPRAWLING DISTRICT THREE, SO, UH, ON COMPACTNESS AND I GO BACK TO ALTERNATIVE A, UH, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT ALTERNATIVE A IS BETTER FROM THE STANDPOINT OF COMPACTNESS.
IT'S ALSO BETTER FROM THE STANDPOINT OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, PEOPLE USUALLY DON'T LIKE IT VERY MUCH WHEN THEIR POLLING PLACE CHANGES.
UH, AND SO THIS, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO ALTERNATIVES, THIS ONE, UH, SHIFTS FEWER VOTERS IN, UH, UH, COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS IS THE PHRASE.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THE COMPACTNESS,
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UH, ALTERNATIVE A IS BETTER FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UH, AGAIN, AN ALTERNATIVE B UH, FACTORS IN FUTURE GROWTH.SO, YOU KNOW, BOTH ALTERNATIVES HAVE THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.
UM, THEY ALL MEET THE NUMERICAL REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THIS IS ALTERNATIVE A, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DISTRICTS WOULD BE, UH, BETWEEN THE BARS AND, UH, SAME IS TRUE OF ALTERNATIVE B.
UH, SHE CAN SEE ALTERNATIVE B UH, DISTRICT ONE IS, IS AT THE VERY LOW, UH, END OF THE SPECTRUM.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT HERE, UH, TO TRY TO, AS DISTRICT ONE GROWS, TO TRY TO PREVENT THE, YOU KNOW, UH, OUT OF WHACK, OUT OF BALANCE, THOSE NUMBERS DON'T REFLECT THE PLAIN GROWTH OF THEIR EXISTING CLAIM.
NO, THIS IS THE EXISTING POPULATION NOW, JUST RIGHT NOW.
SORRY, EVERYTHING WE'VE APPROVED ALREADY.
UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, ONE THING, A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT, UH, THE RACIAL BREAKDOWN, BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE DRILLS WITH THE RE REDISTRICTING, AS YOU CANNOT DILUTE MINORITY VOTING STRAIGHT STRENGTH.
UH, SO HERE WE HAVE A NONWHITE PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION, UH, IN ALL FIVE DISTRICTS, UH, BOTH CURRENTLY WELL CURRENTLY, AND IN ALTERNATIVE A AND ALTERNATIVE B, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE MUCH THE, THE, THE, UH, AS FAR AS, AS MINORITY VOTING STRENGTH, UM, UH, UH, TWO ALTERNATIVES ARE, ARE VERY LITTLE CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT SITUATION AND FROM EACH OTHER, ALMOST STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT IT'S, IT COULD BE A ROUNDING ERROR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IN MOST CASES IT'S LESS THAN 1%, UH, AND THE SAME IS TRUE OF THE HISPANIC, UH, PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION.
HISPANIC IS, IS A LANGUAGE GROUP.
IT'S NOT A RACE, SO IT'S, IT'S TREATED SEPARATELY.
UH, IT LOOKS, THE DIFFERENCES LOOK BIGGER BECAUSE THE SCALE IS SO LOW.
UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONLY, UH, MOST ABOUT A 1% DIFF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, UH, ALTERNATIVES THAT BETWEEN THE ALTERNATIVES IN THE CURRENT SITUATION.
SO IN THEORY, EITHER ONE OF THESE OPTIONS SHOULD GET US GOOD GRADES BY THOSE MEASURES.
I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T LOOKING AT THE CURRENT AND THEN ALTERNATIVE A, MY LOOKING AT THE MAPS.
I SEE ZERO CHANGE TO THE DISTRICT.
UH, WELL, NO, WELL, THE, THE AREA, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ROUTE 2 38, UH, BETWEEN THE 2 38 AND THE FENCE LINE, UH, HOPE TOGGLE BACK, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
UH, SO WE, FROM OUR RIVER WALK DOWNS, RIVERWALK TOWNS, AND THE WOODS AT YORKTOWN APARTMENTS ON 2 38.
UM, SO YEAH, DISTRICT ONE DOES NOT CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UNDER ALTERNATIVE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN A PRETTY SMALL, WELL, IT IS YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO MAKE THAT ONE SMALL CHANGE TO GET A DISTRICT DOWN DISTRICT ONE DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF POPULATION, BUT NEMESIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WHAT WE READY TO, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE INTO DISTRICTS.
ONE OF THE THREE GOT THE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BEST SUPERVISORS, RIGHT? YOU GOT SOME ORIGINAL GREEN ABSTINATE YOUR BEADS.
SAME FOR ME FROM A BIGGER PICTURE PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK ALTERNATIVE, IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.
CAUSE HE KEEPS, KEEPS A MORE TRADITIONAL MEAT ALTERNATIVE BAG.
I'VE GOT TO SAY TO HAVE YOUR REPORT WAS RATHER SHORT TO THAT.
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THANK YOU.AND AREN'T YOU GLAD YOU GOT A BOAT OUT OF IT? SO WHAT ARE WE GOING WITH? A CONGRATULATIONS.
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TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE'VE GOT THAT.NUMBER ONE IS A BYPASS ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT, AND ACTUALLY THAT'S GOING TO HELP IN YOUR DISTRICT LAW.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY GOOD FROM FORT EUSTIS BOULEVARD UP TO THE LIBRARY.
SO WE GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE CARS AND THEY CAN WALK TO SHOPPING HERE IN THAT SIDEWALK.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS GOOD FOR US DOWN ON 1 34, BECAUSE IT WILL CONNECT THE VETERAN TO THE LIBRARY.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIGHT THERE AT ONE TIME, BUT, BUT AT THE B DOT LIGHT.
SO THOSE, THOSE REALLY GOOD PROJECTS.
AND THEN NUMBER THREE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS INSTALLATION OF A SANITARY SEWER CAPACITY AT HARPER STATION.
NOW HARBOR STATION HAPPENS TO BE THAT ADULT COMMUNITY.
IT'S PICKED YOU BOULEVARD IN MY AREA ACROSS FROM WALMART.
AND I THINK THE COUNTY'S WORK TO DEAL WITH THEM AND, AND POINTS BY ENLARGING.
THE SO, I MEAN, BRIAN WOODWARD WOULD CERTAINLY EXPLAIN IT, BASICALLY EXPLAIN IT.
THEY GET, THEY GET SOME CREDIT FOR DOING WHAT PUBLIC WORKS ASKED THEM TO DO.
SO I THINK WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO ARE THESE KN 95 AND 90 K A 95 CHINESE, UM, WE HAVE ONE IN THE SEWER ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR FUTURE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY, UH, WHERE WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE CENTER STORE DEEPER OR EXTENDED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO WHAT'S REQUIRED TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE DID WITH THIS DEVELOPER TO HELP US BRING, UM, WE HAVE A POP STATION CALLED DON JUAN, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT OFF 17, UM, BACK BEHIND SOUTHERN PLUMBING.
UM, IT'S A VERY OLD STATION AND THE AUTHENTIC GOAL ACTUALLY HAS BEEN FOR OVER 25 YEARS TO GET THAT STATION OFFLINE.
SO THIS EXTENSION OF THE SANITARY SEWER AND US WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS, STALL THE SORT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UM, ADD AN ADDITIONAL MANHOLE WILL HELP US IN THAT ENDEAVOR TO GET THAT STATION OFFLINE.
SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK AND THEN IN RETURN WE GIVE THEM SOME CREDIT, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE THEY TAKING THAT PUMP STATION DOWN OR WE'LL TAKE IT DOWN AFTER THEY DO THE, AND THAT'S STILL ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S THERE NOT DOING EVERYTHING NEEDED FOR US TO REMOVE THAT STATION OFFLINE.
THERE'LL BE A CIP IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR THAT.
WE HAVE A PUMP STATION CALLED DON.
THAT'S LIKE, YES, YES, VERY MUCH.
UM, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BUILD THIS, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE 80, 82 ASSISTANT UNITS.
AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? 75 INDEPENDENT UNITS.
SO, UH, I GUESS WITH THE AGE POPULATION, WE DO NEED THIS, BUT I NOT HAPPY THAT IT'S GOING TO GO WHEN THERE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AS A COMMUNITY IT'S COMMUNITY CHAPEL THAT USED TO BE AT KROGER, THEY TURNED INTO A NON-TAXABLE.
COULD YOU USE, ARE YOU OR MR. VILLAINY? UH, I THINK IT'S MR. BILLY, UH, GIVE US AN APPROXIMATE TIMELINE FOR ONE AND TWO BYPASS ROAD AND, UH, AND OURS DOWN ON LEATHER.
THE TIMELINE IS BASED ON BOARD'S APPROVAL TO SEE NAME.
UM, THEN WE'LL ASSUME THAT ASSUMING THAT, UM, THEN WE'LL WORK WITH PURCHASING TO ISSUE, TO CONTRACTS AND GIVING YOU A 30 DAYS, WE'LL HAVE THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING AND GIVE THE NOTICE TO START CONSTRUCTION EACH YEAR.
YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT DONE BY THE SUMMER UNDER WAY UNDER IT'D BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION DURING THE SUMMER, PROBABLY COMPLETED THIS FALL.
I DO THINK THERE'S STILL A V.COM COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD WITH STAFF APPROVE THE PROJECT BECAUSE THERE'S REVENUE SHARING MONEY INVOLVED, BUT CONSTRUCTION THIS SPRING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THEN LET'S SEE, NUMBER THREE, WE TOOK CARE OF NUMBER THREE.
WE HAVE TO GO TO NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS O H HILL THE DRAINAGE DEAD TILL HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.
AS LONG AS I KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT, AND THEN I'M GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS
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ALSO, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS A SIDEWALK PROJECTS.THIS IS A REVENUE SHARING MONEY FEED OUT.
SO AS TO ASK TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD AFTER Y'ALL'S APPROVAL, UM, BE THE SAME TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET APPROVAL.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR ISSUE, THE, UH, NOTICE TO PROCEED, HOPEFULLY THINGS ROLL SMOOTHLY AND WE'LL GET EVERYTHING THAT A CONSTRUCTION STARTING.
ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THEY'RE TRYING TO, THEY'RE GOING UNDER THE 17 GOING UNDER ROUTE 17 AND COOK ROAD.
WE DID THE PROJECT YEARS AGO UNDER OLD DOOR CAMPTON.
SO THIS IS THE SAME GUY, UM, DRAINAGE DITCH TO, I HEARD DITCH THAT DRAINS EGGSHELLS, UM, UNDERGROUND 17 UNDER COOK ROAD, UNDER OLD DRAWER.
CAN THERE, ALRIGHT, IS, IS THIS THE EXISTING DRAINS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BETTER? OR DOES THIS GO TO BE BRAND NEW, EXISTING THAT WE'RE GOING WELL, IT'S, THERE'S EXISTING DRAINAGE THERE, BUT WE'RE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL PIPES.
AND THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT, THAT, THAT IS THAT BY THE WAY BY YORK, UH, HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S SOUTH OF YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.
YEAH, NOT VERY FAR, BUT, UM, BETWEEN, UM, ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE, A OVER 55 COMMUNITY THERE NEXT TO YOUR HIGH SCHOOL, IT RUNS, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.
AND RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, YORKTOWN PATTY PRACTICE WILL COOK.
TO CELL THAT DOES FLOW, IT FLOWS DOWN HERE TOWARDS A CALLBACK, OR IT GOES THE OTHER WAY.
I WAS THINKING I WAS GOING UP.
FLESH EDGE HILTON BALL BANK, WHICH IS WHERE ME CREEK.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO WORK MONEY OVER THE YEARS TRYING TO FIX THAT, THAT H HEAL.
BUT ANYWAY, WELL, THIS IS DOWNSTREAM NOW.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE FALLING, MOVING DOWNSTREAM TO TAKE WHAT YOU'VE REPAIRED IN IT'S HILL OUT OF ITCHY HILL.
SO, SO BRIAN COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THIS FOR AN HOUR EASILY, BUT BASICALLY SOME YEARS AGO, UH, THE COUNTY DID A LOT OF STUFF IN THE IMMEDIATE SYSTEM IN EDGE HILL, AND THEN THE DIAGNOSIS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE BEYOND THAT WAS YOU GOT TO START AT THE END AND WORK UP.
AND SO WE TOTALLY REDID THE CULVERT GOING INTO WORMLEY CREEK.
AND AS BRIAN MENTIONED, UH, THE PIPES UNDER, UH, WE WERE CAMPTON, AND NOW, NOW WE'RE INCREASING THE CAPACITY, UH, COMING OUT OF ED HILL UNDER ROUTE 17 AND UNDER COOK BROTHERS.
SO THE WHOLE CAPACITY IN A CATASTROPHIC STORM GREATLY ENHANCED JUST COMING ALL THE WAY ON EIGHT 17, ALL THE WAY UP EMPTY ON THE WORLDLY CREEK.
AND WE WORKED WITH THIS CONTRACTOR BEFORE THERE ARE TUANA, THIS CONTRACTOR, HOWARD BROTHERS IS THE SAME CONTRACTOR WHO DID COMMERCE UNDER ANDRE HAMPTON EXPERIENCED THAT.
AND DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE WISE REVENUE SHARON'S GOING TO BASICALLY 50%.
SO, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT ALL THREE OF THESE BIG PROJECTS, THE TWO SIDEWALK PROJECTS, AND THIS ONE IS THEY'RE ALL 50% OR MORE STATE FUNDED, WHICH IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE CIP BACK IN DECEMBER, WE SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET A MATCH OF UP TO $5 MILLION, BUT IF WE DON'T PUT 5 MILLION IN, WE CAN'T GET 5 MILLION.
SO WE LEVERAGING HALF OF THE MONEY FOR THESE THREE VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE STAFF I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CREW FROM EDGE HELMET WALTERS, IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF HIM HELMETS UP, BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, STEVE FISHER, HE'S THE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OF MIKE BOSSY.
UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE STARTED SIX YEARS AGO, UH, WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD AND, UH, APPRECIATE MR. WOODARD'S, UH, ACTUALLY DILIGENCE IN THIS AND MR. MORGAN, THANK YOU FOR, UH, PRIORITIZING IT.
AND MR. BELLAMY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH THE RESIDENTS.
AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE, UH, STORM STORMWATER ISSUES, UH, THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE.
SO, AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM PUTTING LEAVES IN THE DITCHES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING DIRT IN THE FISHES.
SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU.
THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER THAT'S DOWN THE, THEN I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK UP.
UH, EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER IS SEAN WILLIAMS FACILITY SERVICE SUPERVISOR, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND HE'S BEEN SELECTED AS THE PLAY IN THE COURT.
SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO LOSE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? THEY CAN DO VERY
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MUCH ROLL CALL, PLEASE.THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMA AS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. .
MR. GREEN, MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MRS. PERRY.
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DISCUSSION.WHO LIKES TO GO FIRST? I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANYONE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FOR IT? SURE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
UH, MR. ROWE, UM, GOOD FOR THIS EVENING.
I'LL SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPLICANTS FOR THE COLONIAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD.
UH, THAT'S SO EXCITING THAT THE COUNTY HAS, THAT CITIZENS CAN SERVE ON.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO'S A PRACTICING ATTORNEY.
SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THE COLONIAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD, FILL OUT A BOARD BANK APPLICATION, AND, UH, WE'LL, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GIVE YOU, UH, A GOOD CONSIDERATION FOR YOU TO SPEAK IN THOSE APPLICATIONS AS MR. LIBERMAN GOT IN HIS, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT IT, YOU GOT HIS, UH, JEFF COURT APPOINTMENT.
WE SENT HIM HIS FOYA STUFF, AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING PENDING FOR YOU TO SEND THEM.
SO TWO THINGS, SO THEY'LL TRY TO GET QUICK.
ONE HAS TO DO, I THINK WITH GRANTS, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, THE PROCESS FOR APPLYING FOR A GRANT, WHETHER IT'S LOCAL STATE OR NATIONAL, YOU ALL KNOW QUEENSLAND, MOST OF YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER HURRICANE ISABEL KNOCKED THE HELL OUT OF THE CAUSEWAY, THE DAM THAT HOLDS THE, THE LAKE BACK, UH, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THIS BILL GOES BACK, THAT MIGHT BE A DECADE OR SO FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UH, THEY HAD BEEN UNDER THE GUN FROM THE STATE TO FIX THINGS BECAUSE THE HURRICANE TOOK ALL THE, UH, LARGE TREES OUT, ALONG THE SPILLWAY WAS THE ROOTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAUSES THIS, UH, INSTABILITY, RIGHT? SO, UH, AGAIN, TRYING TO HELP AND PART OF OUR COUNTY OUT, DOES ANYBODY KNOW DOES THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE STAFF THAT KNOWS THE PARTICULARS ABOUT APPLYING FOR A GRANT THAT WOULD BE APPROVED RELATED TO THAT ISSUE THAT TOOK PLACE, MOTHER NATURE, KNOCK IT OUT.
UH, THEY RUN ACROSS THE SPILLWAY FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S B THAT SAID IT'S NOT SAFE.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE WE GET AT THE THINK TANK HERE TONIGHT FOR, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE HOA OR SO.
I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.
WELL, WE CERTAINLY HAVE PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATION THAT MAKE GRANT APPLICATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM IS AWARE, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THERE'S A STATE AGENCY THAT ENFORCES DAM SAFETY.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE LITTLE BIT YOU SAID IN THE LITTLE BIT, I KNOW THAT THE, UH, IS THAT RECALL, UH, TH V DOT OWNS THE ROAD SURFACE, UH, BUT THE DAM IS OWNED BY DETROIT OR THEIR, WHATEVER THEIR ASSOCIATION IS PROBABLY THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
OF COURSE, IF IT AS AN EARTHEN DAM, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS EVER OVER TOPPED, IT WOULD BE UNDERMINED VERY QUICKLY.
UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SOME RESEARCH.
UM, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NOT THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY, HOW THAT PLAYS INTO IT, WHETHER WE CAN HELP THEM, IF THERE'S, UM, SOMEBODY, UH, WELL THAT YOU KNOW OF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S KNOWLEDGEABLE, BUT IT COULD BE OUR CONTACT.
I DON'T WANT THE NAME HERE, BUT IF YOU COULD GET US THAT, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SOME RESEARCH AND BE OF ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN.
AND THIS HAS TO DO WAS I WAS WATCHING THE NEWS TODAY, ONLINE NEWS.
AND, UH, THIS, THIS TOPIC WAS THE RESULT OF THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, WHERE YOUNG GUN DEFEATED CHERRY AND THE, THE CONSENSUS OF THE MEDIA IS THAT THE VICTORY ON YOUNG CHRON'S PART HAD TO DO WITH A COMMENT THAT TERRY MADE RELATIVE TO THE PARENTS DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION.
IT TELLS US THAT THE LARGEST REASON FOR THE WIND WAS, WAS THAT COMMENT.
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A DAY OR SO A WEEK OR SO AGO GOES THROUGH THIS LITANY OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS.ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT HE SAYS A MASK OFF GIL, CAJUN 12, AND SO MANY WORDS, ALL RIGHT.
BUT TH THE NEWS TODAY, THE MAP SHOWED MOSTLY IN THE NORTH OF THE COMMONWEALTH, THE BLUE COUNTIES LET'S CALL IT THE BLUE COUNTIES THERE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF LAW SUITS FILED AGAINST THE GOVERNOR, COMES TO THOSE EXECUTIVE ORDERS, UH, AND THEY'RE ALL BLUE.
AND YOU SEE THEM, THE SAME MAP SHOWED UP ABOUT THREE COUNTY IN RED, WHO WE'RE NOT PUSHING BACK, BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH GIVING THE PARENTS THE OPTION OF MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE KIDS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE, WHERE THE, WHAT, WHAT'S THE STATUS WHO CAN EXPLAIN THE STATUS OF WHERE OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OR RELATIVES OF THE MATCH.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, DO BELIEVE THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER TRUMPS THE LAW, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY LAW THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS THAT SAID THAT, UH, THE SCHOOL SHOULD FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDANCE.
UH, THEY HAVE NOT JOINED THE LAWSUIT.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF IN A MIDDLE POSITION OR KIND OF WAITING FOR LEGAL CLARIFICATION.
I MEAN, IF I COULD JUST MAKE AN EDITORIAL COMMENT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE TREND WITH THE TIME CRISIS IS NOW AS MANY EXPECTED GOING DOWN AND PROBABLY IN A MONTH'S TIME, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MOOT ISSUE BECAUSE UNDER CDC GUIDANCE, UM, MASS WOULD NO LONGER BE REQUIRED UNDER THEIR ROLE.
AND SO WHETHER THERE'S ANY KIND OF COURT DECISION BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT POINT IS MAYBE THE QUESTION.
SO, UH, SO I THINK A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION OF OUR SCHOOL'S POSITION IS, UH, THEY BELIEVE THAT THE STATE LAW TRUMPS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, A PARTICIPANT IN THE LAWSUIT.
UH, THAT SAME NEWS, UH, SEGMENT TODAY HAD ONE, UH, OR EITHER THE SPONSOR OR ONE OF SEVERAL SPONSORS WITH 1303, WHICH IS THE STATE STATUTE THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR.
AND THAT SENATOR WAS THE SENATOR, UH, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATED THAT IN POINT OF FACT, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE, OF THESE, THESE COUNTIES IN THE UPPER COUNTY, THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW WAS WRONG.
NOW, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BACK TO LEGISLATIVE.
IT ALSO GOES BACK TO WORDS, YOU KNOW, WORDS HAVE MEANING.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS.
UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE WE ARE, WHETHER OR NOT THE WORD IS PUT OUT BY THE SCHOOL BOARD SUPERINTENDENT, I GUESS IF YOU HAVE KIDS AND YOUR KIDS WENT OFF TODAY AND YESTERDAY WAS WITH MEDICINE, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER, BUT WHAT'S THE, BY EASTER, NOBODY CARES ANYMORE.
THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED IN THE COURT, SO APPLY WITH WHATEVER YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS TO DO.
THAT'S ALL I KNOW, BUT HE HAS SAID NOPE.
AND IN RESPONSE TO BE RESOLVE, BUT LET THE COURTS RESOLVE IT, YOU KNOW, COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE SCHOOLS TELL YOU TO DO, LISTEN TO YOUR PRINCIPALS RIGHT.
CAN I ASK MR. BARNETT A QUICK QUESTION, EXCUSE ME? YES.
NOT ON YOUR RADAR, BUT I DID NOTICE A BILL TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE THE DETAILS OF IT, UM, ABOUT, UM, PARENTS' PARTICIPATION IN THE CHILDREN THRIVERS EDUCATION.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF EDUCATION BILLS.
IN FACT, WHAT I DID WAS SEND MY LIST TO OUR OTHER DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY, MELODY BARRY, WHO WORKS AT THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND ASK HER WHICH ONES ARE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT YOU WANT ME TO KEEP TRACK OF.
AND SHE CAME BACK WITH A LIST.
I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE, UH, SEVERAL BILLS, WHICH, UM, WHICH ARE DIRECTED TO, UH, PARENTAL OVERSIGHT OF EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, UM, A NUMBER OF BILLS BY THE WAY, NOT JUST LIMITED TO SCHOOLS, BUT DEALING WITH MASKS, UH, THAT WOULD INVALIDATE ANY MASS MANDATE BY ANYBODY, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, AND, UH, OF COURSE, MORE FAMOUSLY ONE THAT SAYS, UH, SCHOOLS CANNOT TEACH, UH, DIVISIVE CONCEPTS, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
UM, I WILL, I WILL HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE ONE FOR DRIVER'S ED.
IT'S POSSIBLE, IT'S IT? IT'S IN MY LIST WAS I BROUGHT TONIGHT, BUT THERE'S LIKE A DOZEN PAGES OF NOTHING, BUT, BUT BLURBS OF THOSE BILLS.
SO I, I HAVE NOT, I TRY TO LOOK SO DETAILS ON THEM.
UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EXACTLY.
DOES THAT MEAN THE PARENTS HAD TO GO ON
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A RIDE ALONG THAT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I COULDN'T GET ANY DETAILS ON WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PARTICIPATE? SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT TO OUR PARENTS WILL BE.I, YOUR RESPONSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOUR CHILD DOES.
SO THEREFORE YOU NEED TO LEARN WHAT THE CHILD LEARNS IN.
I TOOK ALL MY, BOTH MINE UP TO MACK REYNOLDS, TO THE MAN WHO TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DRIVE STICK SHIFT, BUT I GUESS SOME PARENTS MORE HANDS OFF, BUT GENERAL ASSEMBLY CAN BE GLORIOUSLY IMPRECISE IN THEIR WAY, WHETHER THEY ARE IN THIS ONE.
SO IF YOU FIND MORE DETAILED, NOT URGENT, BUT IT'S MY TURN NOW.
AND ACTUALLY I HAVE A WHOLE LONG LIST OF THINGS.
I WANT TO SIT HERE FOR AN HOUR, SO WE COULD DO THIS NOW, ACTUALLY, WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, I'M EMPLOYMENT OR EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE, BUT THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT OUT THERE.
THEY DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO GET JOBS.
AND, UH, I ASKED NEIL, HOW MANY JOBS DO WE HAVE OPEN? AND HE SAID, OH, ABOUT 50.
I TALKED TO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT PEOPLE THE OTHER DAY, AND IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
AND I CAN SAY THAT I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH THE WAY OUR STAFF IS HANDLING IT.
I LOVE THE INTERVIEWS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SAD, WORK IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SAYING HOW THEY LIKE THEIR JOB, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
I JUST, I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN FILL THE JOBS EVENTUALLY BECAUSE THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO LOSE OUT IF WE DON'T.
BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE HAMPTON ROADS WORKFORCE COUNCIL IS REALLY WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS.
AND THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NEW PROGRAMS FOR ONE.
THEY HAD OPENED A VETERANS EMPLOYMENT CENTER, UH, AND THEY GOT A GRANT WITH $300,000 FROM SMITHFIELD FOODS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, WHICH I THINK WAS REALLY GREAT.
AND IT SENT THEM KIMBALL SHOALS ROAD.
UM, I WON'T BOTHER THE ADDRESS.
NOW, ANOTHER THING THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE OPENED UP THE CAREER, WORKS UP IN YOUR AREA.
WE WHISPERED AND THAT'S WONDERFUL TRAINING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN A, IN A FIELD.
THEY WANT TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
THEY CAN GET THE TRAINING TO MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT, UH, FIELD.
ONE THAT I THINK IS VERY INTERESTING IS CALLED CAMPUS 7, 5 7.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THE MILITARY HERE AFTER THEY RETIRE AND TAKE JOBS LOCALLY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BUILD UP THE ECONOMY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE IN THE AREA.
SO THIS IS A SIX, THIS IS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WORK WITH BUSINESSES, UH, FOR INTERNSHIPS.
AND THEY ALSO SHOWED THEM THE ADVANTAGES OF LIVING IN THE ERA, SOCIAL ACTIVITIES AND SO FORTH.
AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS ON THAT.
AND IT REMINDED ME, REMEMBER, WE USED TO HAVE A SAY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, KEEP IT IN THE COUNTY.
WELL, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO REALLY IS, IS WE WANT TO KEEP THEM IN OUR ONE REGION HERE BY THAT AFTER GRADUATION.
AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN A MUCH 10TH IN CHESAPEAKE, THIS IS INTERESTING NEXT GEN OPPORTUNITY FAIR.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS TO BRING IN EMPLOYERS AND STUDENTS AND TRY TO WORK ON INTERNSHIPS FOR THEM IN THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS SECTORS.
SO THEY CAN HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON AND KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE HERE SO THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD STAY HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR NEW EMPLOYEES.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO RETIRE AND, BUT WE HAVE TO FILL THOSE SPOTS, BUT WE'RE NOT ALONE.
WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRY OR BUSINESSES OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE NEED TO REINVIGORATE US EVERY YEAR.
AND THAT'S BY BRINGING IN YOUNGER PEOPLE AND TRAINING THEM TO TAKE THE PLACES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REACHED RETIREMENT AGE.
SO AT ANYBODY, I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY INTERESTING THING THAT THEY'RE REALLY CONCENTRATED ON.
AND I HOPE THAT IT PAYS OFF BECAUSE THAT'S THE VITALITY OF A REGION AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED THAT WE NEED IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OFF BECAUSE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS A BIG ISSUE NOW, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
TALK WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS ON THE, HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH YOUR KIND OF CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE EDA AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WAS A BIG, BIG TOPIC BECAUSE LOCAL BUSINESSES CAN'T FIND PEOPLE TO STAFF TO DO THE WORK I WAS TALKING TO MR. COXTON, UH, UM, UH, IN JUNE COXON WITH HIS, UM, UH, REPAIR BUSINESS.
AND HE JUST CAN'T FIND ENOUGH WORK, HELP PEOPLE TO GET THROUGH THE WORK IS NEVER A PROBLEM WITH, UM, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
YOU CAN'T FIND BODY PANEL CAN'T FIND PARTS OF THE CAR, BUT EVEN TO GET THE PARTS, HE CAN'T FIND THE PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK.
AND AS A RESULT, WORK GETS BACKED UP, THE CARS GET BACKED UP.
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE CARS TO WORK WITH.
SO THEY GO RENT CARS THAT THE POLICE, THE POPULATION IT'S, IT'S A BIG ISSUE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL PEOPLE THERE
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GO TO THE SHOP, DO THE WORK.SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
SO AT ANY RATE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF IT.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A CLOSE READING TONIGHT.
SO THIS, YES, I HAD ASKED, UH, I FORGOT ABOUT THIS.
I'D ASK A GYM TO MAKE COMMENT ABOUT THAT TRANSPORTATION.
OH, I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY A THREE BILLS, WHICH IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IMPACT, UM, STATE GASOLINE TAXES AND BY THE WAY, UM, THEY ARE COMING UP, I BELIEVE TOMORROW.
UM, AND IN, UM, HOUSE FINANCE, WHICH ONLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON, MAYBE EVEN AFTER HOURS FINALLY PUT UP A, UH, UM, AN AGENDA FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING, BUT THERE'S, UM, HOUSE BILL 2 97, WHICH SUSPENDS THE IMPOSITION OF ANY REGIONAL REASON, REGIONAL FUEL TAX IN VIRGINIA, BETWEEN JULY ONE OF THIS YEAR UNTIL JULY ONE OF NEXT YEAR.
SO A ONE YEAR HOUSE BILL 10 59, WHICH A PATIENT COURT DOES IT REPRESENTS THE PIECE OF YOUR COUNTY, UM, WOULD DO THE SAME THING, UH, AND HOUSE BILL 1144.
BUT WE WERE, WHICH, UM, UH, LOWERS THE RATE OF TAX ON GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL FROM THE 2 26 0.20 CENTS PER GALLON TO 21.20 CENTS PER GALLON, GASOLINE, AND A SIMILAR DROP ON DIESEL FUEL.
UM, AGAIN, UH, I, I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS ALSO TO RETURN TO REGULAR PRICING ON JULY 1ST, 2023.
NOW I DID CONTACT, UM, THE TWO OF THOSE, ONE OF THE, WE ARE COMING UP TOMORROW.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS NOT, I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS AN ITEM.
I'M SURPRISED THEY DON'T ALL THREE COME UP, BUT YOU HAD INDICATED YOU HEARD THAT PERHAPS THEY'RE GOING TO ROLL ALL THREE OF THEM INTO THE THIRD ONE THAT I MENTIONED TO HOUSE BILL 1144.
I DID CONTACT A VACO VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND ASKED IF THEY HAD ANY IDEA OF THAT FISCAL IMPACT.
AND THERE IS A FISCAL IMPACT STUDY, BUT IT IS NOT COMPLETED, HOWEVER, ON THEIR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS.
AND THEY REFERENCED JUST IF HOUSE BILL 1144 WORK TO PASS, I THINK THEY WERE PROBABLY OPERATING ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE ROLLED INTO THIS BILL, THAT THERE WOULD BE A DECREASE OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 200, 250 MILLION IN, IN TRANSPORTATION FUNDING FOR THE COMMONWEALTH.
NOW, NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT OUT BETWEEN DIFFERENT PLANNING, DISTRICTS, DIFFERENT LOCALITIES AND SO FORTH, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
BUT ANYWAY, ALL THREE, WELL, TWO OF THOSE BILLS ARE COMING UP TOMORROW MORNING AND HOUSE FINANCE.
UH, THAT'S HOW I GOT THE WORD ABOUT ENROLLING IT IN, BUT THEY ALSO SAID THAT, UM, HOUSE BILL 44, IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE, THE, UH, THE GASOLINE TAX THAT WE COLLECT FOR THE MAJOR ROAD PROJECTS IN HAMPTON ROADS.
SO, WHICH IS A THAT'S, THAT WAS THE BIG PARTNER, OR HE SAID THAT THAT PIECE HAS GOT TO STAY SEPARATE, BUT THEY'RE WATCHING IT.
AND, UH, KEVIN PAGE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HR TECH WOULD BE UP THERE.
HE'S GOING UP TOMORROW AND MAKE SURE.
AND, UH, ONCE ONE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, YOU, UH, WHEN WE TALKED TODAY, YOU'VE MENTIONED, UM, THE PR PROCESS.
HOW, HOW CITIZENS CAN, UH, MAKE COMMENT TO THESE COMMITTEES.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU PLEASE, NO.
I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN THAT, OH, I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT DOWN.
WELL, YOU, YOU, YOU GO TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WEBSITE AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A BILL THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, YOU, YOU PLUG IN THE NUMBER OF THE BILL.
THERE'S A DOWN ON THE SIDE WHERE YOU COULD LIKE THAT IN.
THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE BILL, THERE'S A SECTION WHERE YOU CAN CHECK TO GO INTO COMMENTS AND YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS THERE.
SO SITTING IN AT HOME, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR ISSUE, GO TO THE WEBSITE, IT, THEY REALLY IMPROVED IT TREMENDOUSLY.
I THINK THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S REALLY EASY TO NAVIGATE.
SO, UH, THE LEGISLATIVE INFORMATION SYSTEM WEBSITE, OR LET ME JUST ADD JUST FROM A PRACTICAL POINTERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH THIS WEBSITE, JUST THE LITTLE TINY DETAILS THAT MAY AVOID SOME FRUSTRATION BESIDE IS CALLED WELCOME TO THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
SO IT'S EASY TO GOOGLE AND YOU CAN GO TO THEIR SITE AND IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY TO USE.
UM, AND WHEN YOU PUT IN THE BILL NUMBER, THERE'S NO SPACE BETWEEN EITHER HB OR ESSBASE.
SO IT'S HB NO SPACE, WHEREVER YOUR NUMBER IS.
OTHERWISE HE'S NOT GOING TO COME UP.
UM, AND THEN IT'LL TAKE YOU TO A PAGE THAT SHOWS THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE BILL.
YOU CAN CLICK ON HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTRODUCED.
IF THERE ARE ANY AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, YOU CAN CLICK ON THOSE.
IF IT'S A SUBSTITUTE BILL OR AN AMENDED BILL, ET CETERA.
IT'LL TELL YOU WHICH COMMITTEE HAS BEEN SENT TO YOU.
YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT NAME AND THAT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE, WHICH WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN YOU CAN CLICK ON ONE OF THOSE
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AND SEND AN EMAIL ALSO, BY THE WAY, DIRECTLY TO ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PIECE OF YOUR COUNTY IN THEIR, IN THEIR DISTRICTS.SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S UM, I WAS ACTUALLY NOT AWARE OF THE LITTLE BOX OF IT.
COMMENTS I'VE BEEN SENDING EMAILS TO THE INDIVIDUAL EVER.
SO APOLLO AND SUSPENSIONS THAT SHE CAN LINK THAT, UH, TOMORROW EASIER THAN TRYING TO .
I WOULD JUST GOOGLE WHAT VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL SEE IT, BUT THAT'S GOOD.
BECAUSE I THINK THIS NEED TO GET INVOLVED.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR PEOPLE UP THERE DON'T EVEN IF, EVEN IF THEY DON'T PAY A BIT OF ATTENTION TO IT, AT LEAST YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATIVE BILLS.
CAN I ASK THE BOARD ABOUT ONE? I MEAN, THIS IS NOT REALLY BEEN DISCUSSED BY MOST US.
UM, BUT NUBER NEWS HAS ASKED ME OUR POSITION AND I BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO THERE WAS A, A BILL THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WERE EXPECTING THAT WAS INTRODUCED BY, UH, MR. CARDOZA, THAT CALLS FOR THE STATE TO MANDATE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE OF THE PENINSULA AIRPORT COMMISSION.
AND IN PARTICULAR, IT SAYS THERE WILL BE TWO SEATS FOR COSEN TWO SEATS FOR WILLIAMSBURG.
TWO WOULD BE REMOVED FROM NEWPORT NEWS AND YORK AND JAMES CITY WOULD EACH GET ONE.
AND I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER WHERE OBVIOUSLY YOUR COUNTY WOULDN'T BEHIND THAT.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'D PROPOSED GIVING ME THIS BERGEN BECAUSE IN TWO SEATS.
UH, BUT I JUST AM, AM I, ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH ME MAKING CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IS ADVOCATING, THAT BILL CAN APPLY WAS MR. MORGAN.
UH, AND I'M ACTUALLY, UH, HE ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT THE BILL TOMORROW.
UH, THE, THE, WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, WE ARE AT, IN THEORY, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF YOUR WORK AND BEING INVOLVED IN THE AIRPORT, UH, COMMISSION, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT, UH, IN NO CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THE BILL IS WRITTEN, UH, 40%.
AND WE JUST LOOKED AT IT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE DISTRICTS.
AND YOU SAW HOW MUCH OF THE AIRPORT WAS IN DISTRICT.
UH, YOU KNOW, 40% OF THE SEAT IS DIFFERENT THAN RIGHT TO BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM ONE CITY AND TWO BEING ARBITRARILY GIVEN TO TWO SMALL COMMUNITIES OR 40% OF THAT, OF THE LAND, THE AIRPORT RESIDES.
WE HAVE 70,000 RESIDENTS TOO, BECAUSE SINCE 12,000 RESIDENTS, UH, WE ALSO HAVE 70,000 RESIDENTS TO THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG'S 12 TO 13,000 RESIDENTS AND PROPORTIONALLY.
UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE NO SENSE TO GIVE, UH, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE CITIES TWO REPRESENTATIVES ON IT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S NOT A WELL THOUGHT OUT BILL, BUT IN THEORY, UH, MR. CARDOZA, WHAT I SAID IS, OF COURSE YOUR COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT ON THE BOARD.
THAT'S AS FAR AS I'VE TAKEN IT, AND MOST OF THE MONEY THAT'S GONE INTO THAT AIRPORT AND THAT COME FROM NEWPORT NEWS, THAT IS A VERY LONG STORY.
MORE, YES, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY OPERATING MONEY FROM ANY OF THE LOCALITIES FOR 25 YEARS.
THE CITY DID CONTRIBUTE SUBSTANTIALLY TO THE, THE AIRPORT TERMINAL IN THE EIGHTIES, SINCE THEN THE CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE BEEN FOR AIR SERVICE.
UH, AND OF COURSE ALL THE LOCALITIES GAVE SOME, UH, IT IS TRUE THAT NEW PRODUCE GAVE PROPORTIONALLY MORE AND THAT ALL SORT OF CAME TO AN END WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE SCANDAL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, IF NOT, UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AND WE'LL HAVE A MEETING.
THE NEXT REGULAR ONE WILL BE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH, UPSTAIRS IN THE FORD GROUP.