[Call to Order]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS THE DECEMBER 21ST MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ORDER THIS TIME.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
MR. CROSS, IF YOU COULD COME AND LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. BARR, BELLAMY.
MR. BARNETT, I INVITE YOU TO BOW YOUR HEADS AND JOIN ME IN PRAYER.
ALMIGHTY GOD, WE PRAISE YOUR HOLY NAME AS WE COME TO THE END OF ANOTHER YEAR, THE SECOND YEAR OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC TO WHICH THERE IS NO END IN SIGHT.
WE THANK YOU FOR GUIDING US SAFELY TO THIS TIME AND PLACE.
EVEN AS WE PREPARE TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS WITH FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND LOVED ONES, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM ILLNESS OR LOSS.
WE LIFT THEM UP TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR HEALING.
GRACE AND LORD, WE PRAY FOR OUR COUNTY LEADERS GATHERED HERE THAT THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE AND THE ACTIONS THEY TAKE WILL BE GUIDED BY WISDOM AND COMPASSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR WILL.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR EAGLE SCOUT, MR. STEVEN, MCWITHY DOWN TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IF YOU COULD COME DOWN HERE I PLAYED FOR AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL, MR. ZAREMBA, MRS. NOLE, MR. GREEN, MR. ROAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A THANK
[A Certificate of Achievement – Present certificate to Eagle Scout, Brian McWithey. ]
YOU TONIGHT.WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH SOME SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS.
STEVEN IS A STUDENT AT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL AND HAS RECENTLY JUST RECEIVED THE HIGH HONOR ON EAGLE SCOUT.
AND WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOUR OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO CIVICALLY.
UH, I SPOKE TO YOUR PRINCIPAL, DR.
BUTLER, AND SHE SAID THAT YOU WERE A GREAT STUDENT AND, UH, ONE OF THE TRUE, UH, GOOD GUYS OUT THERE AT YORK HIGH.
WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
COUNTY OF YORK CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS PROUDLY PRESENTED TO STEVEN MCWITHY FOR, IN RECOGNITION OF HIS ACHIEVEMENT ATTAINMENT OF THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU ASK YOU WHAT IS STEVEN C'MON COME FORWARD? COME BACK.
UH, MY EAGLE PROJECT WAS A BUILT A 100 FOOT GRAVEL PATH AT A RIVER VIEW FARM PARK FOR THE MASTER GARDENERS ASSOCIATION OF NEWPORT NEWS PARK
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OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF NEWPORT NEWS.[B Presentation of Proclamation. Presentation of proclamation to C.A. Barrs Contractor, Inc. in honor of their 50th Anniversary as a Business in York County ]
ALL RIGHT.AT THIS TIME, IF STEVE AND KAREN BARS WOULD COME FORWARD, UH, MANY OF, YOU KNOW, STEVE BARS, UH, AND KNEW HIS FATHER, A CA BARS WHO WAS A LONGTIME BUSINESSMAN AND, UH, HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FROM THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, COMMANDING CA BARS CONTRACTING ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF THEIR 50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S HUGE TO BE IN BUSINESS FOR THAT LONG.
UM, AND I, I WON'T BORE YOU WITH READING THE RESOLUTION, UH, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, UH, WE CELEBRATE CA BAR'S 50TH YEAR IN BUSINESS, PROVIDING THE CUSTOMERS FROM YOUR COUNTY AND BEYOND WITH EXPERTISE WITH LAND ROAD AND SITE WORK MAINTENANCE.
THEREFORE NOW BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THIS THE 17TH DAY OF AUGUST.
YEAH, IT WAS WAY BACK THEN THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IT'S GREAT PLEASURE AND THE RECOGNITION AND CELEBRATING CA BAR'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN BUSINESS.
AND THEREFORE BE FURTHER PROCLAIM THAT THE BOARD EXTENDS THEIR HEARTFELT BEST WISHES TO SEE EIGHT BARS CONTRACTING INCORPORATED FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WHO CONTRACT THEIR SERVICES.
YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, THAT'S REALLY MEANINGFUL AND THANK YOU.
AND WE APPRECIATE AND ARE THANKFUL FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR SO LONG.
IT'S BEEN, I'VE GROWN UP WITH THEM AND IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP.
[C VACo Recognition for 20 Years of Service ]
SHEPHERD, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN HERE, MR. SHEPHERD, THIS IS A VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, SUPERVISORS SERVICE AWARD FROM VACO VACO HEREBY RECOGNIZES THOMAS G. SHEPHERD JR.OF YOUR COUNTY ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2021, 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO COUNTY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT? UH, NO, IT DOES CONCLUDES TONIGHT'S ROAD RECOGNITIONS.
AND AGAIN, UH, MR. BARRES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO IN YOUR COUNTY.
KEEP THIS STAR FLYING, KEEP THAT STAR UP THERE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. BELLAMY, IF YOU COULD TAKE
[D Employee Service Recognitions. Receive presentation from Mark Bellamy, Deputy County Administrator. ]
THE HELM HERE FOR THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, CERTAINLY VERY EXCITED.SO, UH, PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, WE GENERALLY WOULD INVITE EMPLOYEES TO ADD SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT TENURE HERE WITH THE COUNTY TO COME VISIT WITH THE COUNTY AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT SERVICE, UH, IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THAT.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES APPRECIATE IT AS WELL.
SO WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES WHO'VE BEEN HERE WITH A MINIMUM OF 20 YEARS.
THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS DANA.
LANCE DANA STARTED WITH US BACK IN 2001 AS A SECRETARY ONE SHE'S RECENTLY MOVED, UH, TO THE FLEET DEPARTMENT AND WORKING WITH THE FLEET MANAGER THERE AS AN INTERIM STOP.
SHE STOPPED IN WASTE MANAGEMENT AND REALLY SHOWCASE SOME OF HER TERRIFIC CUSTOMER SERVICE SKILLS.
SO DANA IS AN ALL AROUND EMPLOYEE THERE.
ANOTHER 20 YEAR EMPLOYEE IS ALAN BARNA CASKEY WHO WORKS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AGAIN, HE STARTED BACK IN 2001 AND JULY SPECIFICALLY, AND HE STARTED AS A SHERIFF'S LIEUTENANT, EXCUSE ME, SHERIFF'S DEPUTY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND TODAY HE WORKS COMMUNITY SERVICES.
SO ALLEN HAS BEEN WITH US 20 YEARS NOW.
SEAN JACKSON STARTED OFF AS A DEPUTY IN 2001.
AND TODAY HE'S LIEUTENANT OF THE OPERATIONS
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DIVISION.JIM MCCONNELL CAME TO WORK ALSO 2001 AS A SERVICE TECHNICIAN.
TODAY, HE WORKS IN THE FLEET DEPARTMENT AS A MASTER SERVICE TECHNICIAN AND THAT'S IN PUBLIC WORKS.
CHARLES JAMES CAME TO WORK ALSO 2001 AS A CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE WORKER.
ONE TODAY HE IS A CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE WORKER TWO, AND HE WORKS IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, EMPLOYEES WITH 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, WE START OFF WITH TANYA ISAACSON.
SHE WORKS IN THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE'S OFFICE.
SHE STARTED BACK IN 1996 AND, UH, STARTED AS A REVENUE SPECIALIST.
AND TODAY SHE IS A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THAT DEPARTMENT.
TRICIA RITTER WORKS IN THE LIBRARY, ALSO STARTED BACK IN 1996 AS A LIBRARY ASSISTANT.
SHE CONTINUES IN THAT ROLE WITH THE LIBRARY TODAY.
AND YOU MAY KNOW THAT, UH, UH, PATRICIA RITTER'S HUSBAND ALSO WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AND BUILDING REGULATIONS.
KG RUSSELL IS A FIREFIGHTER OF THE SAME TENURE, 1996.
AND TODAY HE'S A SENIOR FIREFIGHTER, KRISTA NELSON, WHO MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, STARTED AS A CLERK BACK IN 1996.
AND TODAY SHE'S THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT.
RYAN SMITH CAME TO WORK ALSO IN 1996 AS A GROUNDS TO KEEP HER ONE TODAY.
HE'S THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR.
AND HE WORKS ON KEEPING THOSE SPECIAL AREAS THAT YOU ALL LIKE SO MUCH NICE AND TIDY LIKE THE ROADWAYS.
WE HAVE 30 YEARS TONIGHT AS WELL.
OUR OWN TEAM, OUR OWN TERRY HALL, WHO HAPPENS TO BE WITH US TONIGHT IS HERE.
HE STARTED 1991 AS A COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
AND TODAY HE SERVES AS A DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS.
ANGELA RIGLER, WHO'S BEEN WITH US SINCE 1991 AS WELL STARTED AS A SECRETARY ONE TODAY.
SHE WORKS IN IT AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR.
AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH ANGIE FOR ABOUT 12 OR 13 YEARS OF MY CAREER.
WE ALSO HAVE 35 YEARS, UH, EMPLOYEES HERE, RALPH MOTLEY, WHO WAS A PLUMBER WHEN HE CAME TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY BACK IN 1986, TODAY HE WORKS WITH BUILDING SAFETY AND HE IS A BUILDING INSPECTOR, TROY WORLDLY, WHO IS NOW A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY STARTED OFF AS A GROUNDSKEEPER.
SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES THEY'RE RATHER DRAMATIC AS IN THIS CASE.
AND, UH, SO HE'S BEEN AROUND HERE FOR 35 YEARS.
DOROTHY, JULIAN IS WITH US AS WELL FOR 35 YEARS.
AND HEADSTART STARTED AS A TEACHER AND NOW HOLDS THE ROLE OF TEACHER TO SEAN SAGER.
BLOOM STARTED WITH US, UH, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 86 AS A FIREFIGHTER RECENTLY, SEAN WAS PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT CHIEF AND HE WORKS AS A DEPUTY COORDINATOR FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
IN THAT ROLE, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE A 40 YEAR EMPLOYEE AS I RECALL SHERRY.
SHE STARTED AS AN OFFICE ASSISTANT AND HER FIRST DAY WITH THE COUNTY WAS 1981.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU WERE IN 1981? SO SHERRY HAS BEEN DOING SOME GREAT THINGS FOR THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF SOFTWARE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND WE EVEN HAVE A 45 YEAR EMPLOYEE, TONY DIAZ, WHO WORKS WITH MR. WOODWARD OVER HERE AS A PUMP STATION MECHANIC.
HE WORKS IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.
HE STARTED IN 1976 AND STILL GOING STRONG.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT 40 IT IS MR. CHAIRMAN.
THOSE ARE THE SERVICE RECOGNITIONS FOR THIS EVENING.
LET'S GIVE THEM A BIG ROUND OF ALL RIGHT.
[E Virginia Department of Transportation. Receive quarterly update from Rossie Carroll, Residency Administrator. ]
INTO AIR UPDATES FROM OUR V DOT ADMINISTRATOR.AND I SEE OUR DIRECTOR, OUR RESIDENT DIRECTOR, MR. CAROL, GOOD EVENING CHAIR, CHAIRMAN GREEN, OTHER DISTINGUISHED BOARDS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, IT'S NICE TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
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THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO FOLLOW RIGHT THERE.UM, GREAT TO SEE LONGEVITY AND IN POSITIONS.
SO, UH, THIS IS GREAT TO SEE, UM, QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR V DOT THIS, UH, THIS, UM, STARTS OFF WITH OUR MAINTENANCE PART.
UM, WE'VE COMPLETED 363 WORK ORDERS THIS QUARTER AND WE RECEIVED 511 IN YORK COUNTY THIS QUARTER.
UM, THAT'S A 71% COMPLETION RATE.
WE STILL HAVE 148 OUTSTANDING FROM THIS PAST QUARTER.
THE QUARTER, UM, THAT WE'RE DOING IS SEPTEMBER 1ST TO NOVEMBER THE 30TH, UH, DECEMBER HASN'T FINISHED FOR US.
SO IT'S HARD TO GET, UH, EXACT NUMBERS.
SO I JUST DID SEPTEMBER ONE TO NOVEMBER 30TH DRAINAGE, STILL THE TOP REQUEST, UM, WORK ORDER RECEIVED.
AND, UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN THE, UH, THE TOP ALL FOUR QUARTERS THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, UH, MOST, I WOULD SAY 50% OF, UH, OF ALL WORK ORDERS ARE DRAINAGE RELATED.
UM, SO THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VEGETATION SIGNS, UM, POTHOLES, 10 EIGHTIES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT 50% OF ALL THE WORK ORDERS RECEIVED ARE DRAINAGE.
A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS QUARTER.
UM, WE DID A LOT OF DITCHING, UM, RELATED TO DRAINAGE, UH, ON LAWSON DRIVE, ELLA TAYLOR ROAD, UM, ROUTE 1 34 BIG BETHEL, UM, AT HEATH PLACE, LAKELAND CRESCENT STONE LAKE COURT, UH, DID A LOT OF BRUSH CUTTING AND TREE TRIMMING AND SIGN, UM, DAYLIGHTING.
SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR SIGNS WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD OR AS YOU'RE COMING UP TO INTERSECTIONS FOR STOP SIGNS DID A LOT OF THAT, UH, SAINT COLE REPAIRS, UM, AND, AND A LOT OF PIPE CLEANING RELATED TO DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE PIPES ARE CLEAN, CAN TAKE THE RAIN WHEN IT COMES LUCKILY ENOUGH.
WE'VE HAD A FAIRLY DRY QUARTER.
UM, UNLIKE WHAT WE SAW, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS, UH, WHICH HAS GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND TRY TO GET CAUGHT UP ON SOME OF THOSE DELINQUENT, UH, OR WORK ORDERS THAT WE HADN'T GOTTEN TO BEFORE.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, COMPLETED PROJECTS.
WE'VE COMPLETED THE, UH, PLANT MIX PROJECT, UH, THE ASPHALT OVERLAY HERE IN YORK COUNTY, UH, THAT WAS COMPLETED, UM, ABOUT MID NOVEMBER.
UH, THEY STILL HAD SOME PUNCH LIST ITEMS TO DO SOME STRIPING, LITTLE THINGS CLEAN UP, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON.
UM, BUT ALL THE ROADS THAT WERE ON OUR LIST, UH, WHICH ARE STILL IN YOUR PACKET, UM, WERE COMPLETED.
WE ALSO, UM, HAVE, UH, A, UH, 64 SEGMENT THREE, UM, JUST HAD A RIBBON CUTTING FOR IT.
UM, AND THAT IS THE SECTION THERE, YOUR COUNTY UP, UH, ALL THE WAY TO 1 99 OR BETWEEN THE ONE 90 NINES.
UM, SO THAT IS, UH, THAT STILL HAS A FEW PUNCH LISTS ITEMS THAT THERE'LL BE WORKING ON, BUT ALL THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION ARE OPEN TO TRAFFIC.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A GOOD THING RIGHT HERE BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
AND, UH, AS TRAFFIC PICKS UP, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, SLIP ON IN AT LEAST TO THE HRBT AND BACK OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, ALSO, UH, WE HAVE THE 1 99, UH, AS 64.
UM, IT'S A FIBER, UH, PROJECT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING FIBER OPTIC LINES ON 1 99 REALLY TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNICATIONS, UM, NOT ONLY SIGNALS, BUT OUR, UH, OUR MESSAGE SIGNS AND, AND, AND THE, IN THAT AREA FROM 1 99, WHICH COMES INTO YOUR COUNTY AND JAMES CITY COUNTY.
SO, UH, THAT THAT'S EXCITING TO US, UM, THAT CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY.
IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED ABOUT SPRING OF 2022.
AND, UM, WE, WE HAVE A FEW UPCOMING PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THE H SIP, UM, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT'S INSTALLED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ON ROUTE 1 34, UH, AT FIRST STREET, INDIAN SUMMER DRIVE AND LONG GREEN BOULEVARD.
UH, THAT'S SCHEDULED TO ADVERTISE MARCH OF 2022.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR PAVING SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR THAT JUST WENT TO ADVERTISEMENT DECEMBER THE 14TH.
UH, THOSE, UH, ROUTES WE INCLUDE MERRIMACK TRAIL 1 43 NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND FROM 64 RAMP WESTBOUND TO JAMES CITY COUNTY LINE.
IT'S ABOUT TWO MILES SECTION THERE, UM, VICTORY BOULEVARD, UH, EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND FROM THE NEWPORT NEWS, UH, CITY LIMITS TO, UH, MILES, WE'LL SAY ROUTE 17 IS A PAVEMENT JOINT RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET THERE, THAT'LL TIE INTO IT.
UM, THAT'S ABOUT A MILE SECTION, UH, GOODWIN NECK ROAD FROM ONE SEVEN, UM, ROUTE 1 73 FROM ROUTE 17 TO DANIEL
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LOOP, UH, THAT'S 4.4 MILES, UM, ORIANA ROAD FROM ROUTE 6 22, THE NEWPORT NEWS CITY LIMITS.AND THEN WHILE OUR MILL ROAD FROM ROUTE 17, I MEAN, WHILE OUR MILL ROAD, UH, FROM ROUTE 60 BYPASS TO THE DEAD END, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS ON A SCHEDULE THAT'S ABOUT 1.8 MILES AND THEN CARRIES CHAPEL ROAD, UH, ROUTE 7 82, UH, FROM CITY LIMITS TO, UH, TO VICTORY BOULEVARD OR TO NORTH, JUST NORTH OF VICTORY BOULEVARD.
YOU CAN REPAVE CURIOUS CHAPEL.
NOW I GET TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A WITH CREEK ROAD PROJECT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S COMING UP AS WELL.
AND, UH, THIS IS INPUT COZEN AND HAMPTON, BUT I DO LIKE TO, UH, MENTION IT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS A LOT OF THE YORK COUNTY DRIVERS THAT USE VICTORY CARRIE'S CHAPEL ROAD, THOSE AREAS OF THAT NATURE.
SO, UH, THAT PROJECT, UH, WAS ADVERTISED ON, UH, NOVEMBER THE NINTH, AND WE EXPECT TO GET BEDS, UH, JANUARY THE 19TH.
AND, UH, THAT SHOULD BE MOVING, MOVING PRETTY GOOD.
UM, NEXT SUMMER YOU'LL START SEEING SOME CONSTRUCTION STARTING THERE.
SO, UH, I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A, UH, HAVING A, NOT A SECOND EXIT OUT OF POQUOSON, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HELP WITH ANY FLOODING OR HURRICANE EVACUATIONS AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE, ARISING RAISING THE BRIDGE AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE, BECAUSE, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF PACOS AND CAN GET OUT, UM, AND IT GIVES THEM, UH, A SAFE EXIT.
AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, UH, GO SMOOTHLY.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOTTEN THIS FAR, WE'VE GOTTEN AN ADVERTISEMENT, SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A PILOT PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING AND, UH, ON ROUTE 60 BYPASS PEDESTRIAN, UH, A MID-BLOCK CROSSING AND, UM, W THE, OUR RESEARCH COUNCIL IS, IS FUNDING IT.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A, I'M TRYING TO THINK EXACTLY.
I THINK IT'S A COUNTRY IN, UM, BEAR WITH ME.
IT USED TO BE, UH, AT HOPPER DENNY'S RIGHT THERE.
IT'S RIGHT WHERE IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE, BUT IT'S RIGHT IN THAT LOCATION JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO THE SEVEN 11, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, UM, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A, MID-BLOCK CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS WITH A MID MEDIAN REFUGE.
SO IT'LL BE, YOU GO HALF, AND THEN YOU HIT THE PIT HEAD, AND THEN YOU GO THE OTHER HALF, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UP THERE BY THE HOTELS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, THERE IT'S IT'S UM, THE OTHER RESTAURANT WAS THERE, UM, THE OLD RYAN RYAN RESTAURANT, IT'S A, I THINK IT WAS A BREAKFAST PLACE.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY IT'S CLOSED AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, UM, IT'S RIGHT AT, RIGHT AT THE HOTELS.
SO WHAT'S A G YOU NEED TO FIND DEFINE A MID-BLOCK LAID OUT IN BLOCKS.
NO, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT IS NOT AT AN INTERSECTION.
SO NORMALLY YOU WOULD BE AT A STOPLIGHT OR AREA, LIKE, LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE OTHERS AT WALLER MILL, UM, AND PALACE LANE, THEY USE ARE TIED INTO THE SIGNALS, SO YOU'LL HAVE RED, AND THEN PEDESTRIAN HAS A BLOCK IN THAT TIMING SCHEME.
SO WHEN YOU HIT, THEY, THEY CAN GO THROUGH BY THE TRAFFIC STOP.
I MEAN, WE, YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF LIGHTS FLASHING.
AND, UM, THEY USUALLY CALL IT A RAPID FLASHING BEACON.
NOW THERE, THE PEDESTRIAN, THE PILOT PART OF THIS IS THEY'RE TRYING OUT THESE NEW, UM, SHOULDER MOUNTED, UM, PEDESTRIAN, RAPID FLASHING BEACONS.
SO THERE'LL BE ONE IN EACH, IT'LL BE TWO IN EACH DIRECTION, ONE IN THE MEDIAN, ONE ON THE SHOULDER, UM, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THE SIGNAGE AS YOU START, AND IT'S SORT OF STAGGERED.
SO WHEN YOU'LL GO ACROSS LIKE THIS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REFUGE THAT'S RAISED AND THEN YOU'LL GO ACROSS THE OTHER WAY.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF FATALITIES IN THAT SECTION OF ROUTE 60 BYPASS.
UM, SO, UM, I THINK IT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STUDIES OUT THERE LOOKING AT, UH, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UH, THE COUNTY'S DOING A PROJECT WITH, UM, A, A WALKWAY OR A PATH, UM, ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE WHERE THE SEVEN 11 IS THAT WHOLE STRETCH OF 60 BYPASS.
SO TYING ALL THAT IN, UM, I THINK IT'LL REALLY HELP WITH MOVEMENT.
UM, AND THEN YOU TIE IT IN THERE'S SOME BUS STOPS AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE THERE AS WELL.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A REALLY WORTHWHILE PROJECT.
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I WILL SAY THAT WE, UH, OUR GUARD RAIL PROJECT, UH, W WE WERE WORKING HIT GUARDRAIL AND OUR CONTRACTOR DECIDED NOT TO RENEW OUR CONTRACT AT THE LAST MINUTE.OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO, UH, GET A NEW GUARD RAIL CONTRACT ADVERTISED.
UH, WE HAVE GOTTEN IT ADVERTISED AND THE BEDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND THEY'RE THERE WITHIN OUR ESTIMATE.
SO I EXPECT THAT WE WILL AWARD, UH, AND GIVE A NOTICE TO RECEIVE, UH, END OF NEXT MONTH OR, OR FIRST PART OF FEBRUARY.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF GUARDRAIL HITS OUT THERE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND, UH, AND, AND CLEAN THOSE UP.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING, WORKING TO GET THERE.
SO, UH, UH, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS THAT ALL THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING AND, UM, GOT, GOT A GOOD CONTRACTOR COMING ON BOARD, UM, SMART SCALE PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THE ROUTE 17 WIDENING, UH, BETWEEN ROUTE SIX 30 AND 1 73.
UH, THE SCOPING PHASE FOR THIS PROJECT HAS CLOSED.
UM, AND LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS STILL IN THAT PHASE AND CONSTRUCTION TO START 2025.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ROUTE 1 71 WIDENING BETWEEN ROUTE 17 AND 1 34.
UH, THE WILLINGNESS, UM, FOR THAT PERIOD HAS CLOSED FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL, UM, FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON DESIGN APPROVAL PACKAGE AT THIS TIME.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE ROUTE 1 71 CAPACITY, A HAT, EXCUSE ME, CAPACITY ENHANCEMENTS BETWEEN, UH, ROUTE 1 34 AND ROUTE 1740.
UM, PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS SCHEDULED TO START DECEMBER OF 2023.
AND, UH, WE'LL GET THAT PROJECT MOVING, UH, COUNTY SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL PROJECTS.
UM, WE, I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S INSTALLING THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ON ROUTE 60 AT, UH, ON BYPASS ROAD AT WALLER MILL AND PALACE LANE.
UM, AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO, UM, WERE ADVERTISED IN SPRING OF 2022, UH, SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA USE OUR OWN CALL CONTRACTOR.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WRITE A TASK ORDER.
UH, I'M JUST FINALIZING THE DESIGN, UM, THROUGH OUR CENTRAL OFFICE AND, AND SHOULD HAVE THAT MOVING.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ROUTE 600 REALIGNMENT.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT REALIGNING, THE NORTHBOUND BIG BETHEL ROAD AT VICTORY, UM, TO HAVE LEFT TURN ONLY, AND THEN HAVE THE RIGHT LANE BE THE THROUGH AND RIGHT TURN, WHICH YOU, WHICH DIRECTION, UH, THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM NEWPORT NEWS.
SEE, THE OTHER ONE IS THE OTHER WAY.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM NEWPORT NEWS, UM, GOING TOWARDS TAB, UM, RIGHT NOW THE LEFT TURN LANE, THE LEFT LANE IS A LEFT TURN AND THROUGH, RIGHT? SO IF THE FIRST CAR THERE IS MAKING A LEFT, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT CAR CAN PROPERLY TAKE A LEFT BEFORE THE CARS CAN GO THROUGH IT.
UM, SO IT AFFECTS THE ROUTE 1 71, JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW WHEN I HAVE TO ADD A LEFT TURN ARROW.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A DEDICATED, LEFT TURN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A DEDICATED, LEFT TURN.
PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY THAT, AND THE RIGHT LANE, WHICH WAS A RIGHT LANE, ONLY AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO TURN THAT INTO A THROUGH LANE AND RIGHT.
SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF MOVING THE, TO THE THROUGH LANE TO THE RIGHT VERSUS THAT WAY, THAT WAY THE LEFT TURNS DON'T HOLD UP ALL THE, AND YOU CAN TURN A RIGHT ON RED.
SO IF THE FIRST CAR IS THAT THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE WAY.
SO WHEN IT DOES TURN GREEN, THE THROUGH TRAFFIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH.
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE COMING FROM TAB? UH, THAT'S A LITTLE TOUGHER THAT'S GOING TO STAY LIKE IT IS RIGHT.
OH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A RIGHT TURN LANE IN THERE ANYWAY, DEDICATED RIGHT.
TURN I HE'S PART OF THE SMITH SMITH FARM.
AND WHEN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, THEN MAYBE WE'LL LOOK AT SOMETHING SORT OF THE SAME THING AND MOVING THE, A THROUGH LANE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, WE'RE HOPING THIS SPRING, UH, SPRING, I HOPE SO.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OUR INTENTION.
AND THEN WE HAD BAPTIST ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT.
WE DID COMPLETE THAT AND HORNS BEVILLE ROAD, SHOULDER PROJECT.
UM, WE COMPLETED WHAT WE COULD GET DONE AT THE POINT, BUT IT'S A CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE FOR THAT, THAT DID GET SOME PAVING, UM, AS PART OF THIS PAST SUMMERS PAVING PROJECT.
AND, UH, MR. CARROLL THAT STILL NEEDS ATTENTION.
DOES IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S CONTINUED MAINTENANCE.
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UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE HAD OUR LAND USE SECTION HAS BEEN VERY BUSY IN THE COUNTY, UM, THIS QUARTER OR THIS, THIS PART OF THE YEAR.UH, WE'VE DONE 53 PLAN REVIEWS.
UH, WE'VE ISSUED 126 PERMITS AND WE'VE ONLY CLOSED OUT NINE.
SO, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT TYPE PERMITS, UM, ONGOING IN THE COUNTY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY, UH, QUARTERLY UPDATE.
AND, UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO START WITH MS. NOLAN, MS. NOLAN AT RASIK.
I WAS WATCHING, I FOUND A POTHOLE ON A HUMAN FREE PARKWAY.
SO WHEN SOMEONE LOOK AT FOR ME GET RIGHT ON IT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT, MR. RON, MR. ROME, UH, THREE THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE, I KNOW YOU GUYS GET A LOT OF WORK OR YOU JUST WENT THROUGH THE NUMBER YOU GET AND HOW MANY YOU'VE MADE IT THROUGH SO FAR.
SO 70% COMPLETION RATE THAT'S.
UM, FIRST QUESTION, UM, ANY UPDATES FEEDBACK ON THE TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT ON THE TAKE FIVE NEW BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE INTERSECTION ORIANA AND RIGHT.
UM, I THINK A RESTATE TO YOU ABOUT, OR YOUR DEPARTMENT ABOUT, UM, THE VISIBILITY CONCERNS WITH VEGETATION ON SHOW WALTER AND LAKESIDE DRIVE, AS WELL AS OLD LAKESIDE, LAKESIDE DRIVE, ANYTHING, ANY INPUT ON THAT? I KNOW, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE IT ON OUR SCHEDULE.
WE DID SOME, I THINK THERE WAS SOME SHOULDER WORK THAT WE DID.
UM, THERE WAS TWO THINGS YOU HAD, ONE WAS THE, THE SHOULDER WORK.
WE DID THAT, BUT THEN THERE WAS THE VEGETATION PIECE.
I DON'T THINK YOU REACHED OUT TO THE HOMEOWNERS FOR OUR PROPERTY OWNERS FIRST AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
SO YOU'RE STILL ON SOMEONE'S SCHEDULE.
AND LASTLY, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR DEPARTMENT AND, UM, GETTING TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPER OF SMITH FARMS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN FINALLY GO AHEAD AND GET THAT DRIVEWAY, THE INTEREST RATE PAID AND EVERYBODY'S FOOD DYES.
SO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
HEY, ROSSI IS GREAT NEWS, BUT THAT, UH, THAT TURN SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION, THAT INTERSECTION, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
THAT'S BIG BETHEL ROAD VICTORY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO GRIPS WITH AND YOUR COUNTY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS THIS WAY.
I'M JUST KINDA, YOU CAN KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE GUIDANCE MAYBE HERE, BUT IN A, IN THE BIGGER PICTURE, WE GOT A REAL PROBLEM.
WE GOT THE FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS IN YOUR COUNTY, AND IF HE GO TO THE TOP, IT, UH, YOU LOOK AT BRUTON BRUTON.
IT'S KINDA IN A, IN A, OFF BY ITSELF.
IT'S GOT ONE BIG ROAD OUT IN THE FRONT.
AND OUT OF THERE, YOU LOOK AT GRAFTON AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL, BOTH OF THEM ARE UP, UH, RIGHT UP CLOSE TO ROUTE 17, AND THEY'VE GOT LITTLE ENTRANCES AND EXITS AND, UH, YOU CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THERE PRETTY WELL.
IT IS NOT ON ANY, UH, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, EXCEPT THAT YOU LOOK AT VICTORY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ON BIG BETHEL ROAD.
OR ACTUALLY I'D SAY PROBABLY I THINK IT'S YORKTOWN ROAD THERE.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN YOUR COUNTY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN MY OPINION, EXCEEDING THE ROAD CAPACITY, UM, IN MANY WAYS.
AND IT'S ABOUT TO EVEN GET WORSE.
AND THE PROBLEM, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, UM, YOUR TOWN ROAD AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, NO, THIS, NO, THIS PROBLEM BY HEART, YOU HAVE TWO SCHOOLS.
ONE IS MOUNT VERNON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, UH, TAB, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND THEY BOTH DUMP OUT RIGHT THERE ONTO AN OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
AND THAT'S YO YORKTOWN ROAD, TWO LANE ROAD.
THE DITCH IS ALMOST RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD ITSELF.
AND IT'S DITCHED, IT DROPS ABOUT TWO FEET, THREE FEET, UM, AND TURNS ARE TIGHT.
THAT ROAD BECOMES A PARKING LOT, BOTH WAYS.
AND THERE'S WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS IN YOUR AREA UP THERE THAT CANNOT GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LET ME SAY IT, IT CAN'T GET IN AND OUT.
NOW WE'RE PUTTING IN SMITH'S FARMS. UM, THAT'S THERE AND WE GOT VICTORY OF STATES ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
SO IT'S ANOTHER BIG NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S GOING IN ON YOUR TOWN ROAD.
AND THEN YOU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? YOU HAVE TABB HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL THE KIDS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE, ALL THESE BUSES TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE ON AN OLD COUNTRY, TWO LANE ROAD.
AND YOU THINK, WELL, OKAY, SO I'VE GOT THREE SCHOOLS DUMPING INTO AN AREA THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF, MAYBE IN DISTANCE.
AND ALL THE TRAFFIC AND NEIGHBORS ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN AND OUT, AND IT JUST COMES TO STOP.
WELL, IF YOU ADD BIG BETHEL ROAD TO THAT, WHICH IS AN EXTENSION OUT, YOU HAVE BETHEL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OKAY.
OR TABBY IS TABOO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I'M SORRY, NOT BETHEL TABOO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO YOU HAVE NOW FOUR SCHOOLS THERE.
AND THAT ROAD TURNS INTO A PARKING LOT.
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ROAD THAT GOES BACK TO THE 18 HUNDREDS, AND THAT WE'VE TRIED TO WIDEN IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT BECOMES A PARKING LOT FOR THE BUSES.AND SO WE HAVE OUR POLICEMEN THAT COME OUT THAT TRY TO SOMETIME IN DESPERATION TO, TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC.
BUT WE USED TO HAVE A DEDICATED, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD BE OUT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WE HAD TO PULL IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO DANGEROUS FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE THERE.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN.
THOSE ROADS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WIDENED.
SOMEHOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WIDE, WE CANNOT GO TO THROW THE SCHOOLS AWAY.
THERE'S MILLION, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THERE, AND INVESTMENTS, PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HOMES THERE, BUT THESE ROADS CANNOT.
YOU GET INTO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T MOVE.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WELL, THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
AND IT'S THAT ISSUE THAT YOU BRING UP IS NOT ONLY AN ISSUE IN YOUR COUNTY.
UM, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE STATE, UH, CERTAINLY HAS GOTTEN WORSE WITH, UM, A LOT MORE PICKUPS AND DROP-OFFS, UM, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO BE WORSE AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
UM, I GUESS MORE PARENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREA IS GROWING.
SO YOU HAVE MORE STUDENTS, YOU HAVE SCHOOLS THAT ARE AT THEIR MAX.
UM, AND YOU HAVE THAT 45 MINUTES FROM THE TIME THAT YOU ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, PICK UP YOUR, YOUR CHILD OR DROP OFF YOUR CHILD.
IT JUST KIND OF BECOMES A PARKING LOT AND IT BACKS UP, UM, THE ROADS WERE, WERE BUILT TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AS DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AS WE PUT SCHOOLS IN, AS WE DO DO DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDE AN, ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO IT, UM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE DEVELOPER MAKE IMPROVEMENTS UPON ROADWAYS.
UM, IF IT, YOU KNOW, PINPOINT HOW MANY PEOPLE IS GOING TO PUT OUT AND HOW THAT, CAUSE YOU'RE ALSO ADDING TO THE SCHOOLS, CAUSE EVERY, EVERY TIME YOU BUILD A DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU'RE ADDING MORE STUDENTS, UM, TO YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT OR TO YOUR SCHOOLS.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, WE'VE WORKED ON A COUPLE OF CASES, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, BRUTON IS OFF THE ROAD, SO IT HAS PLENTY OF STORAGE.
A LOT OF YOUR SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE ANY STORAGE.
AND WHEN I SAY STORAGE IS NO ONE CAN GET OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE PARENTS THAT ARE PICKING UP, UM, THEIR STUDENT OR THEIR CHILD TO GET OFF OF THE ROAD.
SO THEY HAVE TO SIT IN LINE OUT ON THE PUBLIC ROADWAY UNTIL THEY CAN GET INTO THE SCHOOL.
SO THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE STORAGE AT THE SCHOOL TO ALLOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THERE, YOU CAN ALTERNATE DROP OFF TIMES AND PICK UP TIMES.
SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY DO IT BY GRADE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME.
THE ROADWAYS DO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TRAFFIC HAS GOT, UM, HAS INCREASED AND THERE'S, I BELIEVE SOME, SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IT THROUGH PROJECT SMART SCALE REV SHARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS FOR IMPROVING ROADS, IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S PRIORITY.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO IMPROVE THAT 30 MINUTE TIE UP WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DROP-OFF AND TIE IN AND PICK UP TIMES, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL AS WELL.
UM, AND SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, TO ONE IMPROVE STORAGE.
IT MAY BE AS SOMETHING AS EASY AS CHANGING THE DROP-OFF LINE OR ADDING A ROADWAY.
I I'M JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT W W ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE HAVING THOSE ISSUES RIGHT NOW, I'M GETTING A LOT, I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.
SO, UM, I JUST, WE, WE NEED TO SOMEHOW START ON AN APPROACH TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE YOU GOT, UH, AND PUT COASTS IN, YOU GOT A 600, UH, HOME DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GETTING READY.
I MEAN, STARTING TO DEVELOP AND DECLARING OUT NOW.
AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TRAVELING BIG BETHEL ROAD.
WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE THIS, UH, NOT BIG BEZEL, BUT VICTORY, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION EVEN MORE CONGESTED AND BACKING UP AT TRAFFIC.
SO WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA SOMEHOW BEGIN THE PROCESS.
AND I DON'T, I, YOU KNOW, AT THE STAFF IS HEARING THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, MARK, YOU'RE HEARING THIS.
SO WE GET TO START WORKING THIS TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
CAUSE IT'S GOING TO ONLY GET WORSE.
I'LL WORK WITH Y'ALL I'LL WORK WITH Y'ALL ANY WAY I CAN, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IF THAT IS THE PRIORITY OF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR BEST AVENUE IS TO, TO LOOK AT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE, WHETHER IT BE INTERSECTIONS, WHETHER IT BE ADELAIDE, WHETHER I HAVE A DEDICATED LANE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A DEDICATED STORAGE LANE, UH, AT A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT I WAS GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU.
HOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY DO YOU HAVE? IT VARIES, BUT NORMALLY IT'S
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ABOUT 50 FOOT, 25 FOOT EAST SIDE OF THE CENTER LINE.SO YOU CAN'T WAGON THE MUCH MORE.
I MEAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU TO WIDEN, YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY TO WIDEN.
W W REAL QUICK, SO I'VE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK TOO, ABOUT DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IN THE CONGESTION, IN THE COMMUNITIES.
NOW YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A STORAGE IS AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WHERE THE COUNTY CAN WORK WITH VIDA WHERE V DOT INSTEAD OF X, UM, ADD ANOTHER LANE AND WORK ON HELPING BUILD AN OUT STORAGE IF PROPERTIES AVAILABLE ON SCHOOL GRANTS, MAYBE JUST EXTENDING INTO THE WOODS, YOU KNOW, ELAINE TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER DOZEN, TWO DOZEN CARS, A CHANCE TO GET OFF THE ROAD.
UM, IF IT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, OR IF IT'S A V DOT PROJECT TO PUT A STORAGE LANE IN.
BUT TO PUT IN, UH, TO EXTEND A DRIVEWAY OR A, OR A BUS LOOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON COUNTY PROPERTY.
THE PRIVATIZATION IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH OUR SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND, AND MR. RICHARDSON ON THE BOARD OF THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT IT TOO.
AND KNOW SOME OF THEIR CHALLENGES IS THE BUS DRIVERS SHORTAGE.
MAYBE MORE PEOPLE HAVING TO DROP THE KIDS OFF.
AND ALSO SOME PARENTS ELECTING TO TAKE THEIR KIDS RATHER THAN ON BUS BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC CONCERNS.
UM, SO IS THAT GETS, ALLEVIATE IT AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTA MAKE, BE SMARTER BY HOW REPRIORITIZE THE WORK, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO MORE AND MORE.
A LOT OF WHAT I SEE IS I, I I'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE SCHOOLS AND THESE SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'VE HEARD FROM THE PARENTS, I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD A LOT AS WELL, UM, OF WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
AND, UM, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SPECIFIC TIME.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT IS IT'S, IT'S PICK-UPS AND DROP-OFFS, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS COMING OUT.
UM, YOU GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARS COMING TO GET STUDENTS EVERY DAY.
UM, THE ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE THAT IS, IS TO GET THEM OFF THE ROAD TO CREATE STORAGE OR TO CHANGE THE TIME IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU ONLY HAVE A 10 MINUTE WINDOW.
CAUSE I SEE PARENTS GETTING THERE 20, 30 MINUTES, WE SAT OUT THERE ON THE ROAD AND LOOKED AT IT, WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING THEIR 20, 30 MINUTES AHEAD TO GET INTO THAT QUEUE.
UM, WHICH JUST MAKES THE QUEUE EVEN LONGER.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CAROL, HERE'S MY CHRISTMAS LIST.
YOU CAN PUT ON YOUR, YOUR SANTA HAT HERE.
UH, WE GOT A EROSION ISSUE ON BUCKNER HERE IN THE, UH, VILLAGE.
IF YOU COULD SEND SOMEBODY OUT, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T STOP AREA ADDRESS.
NOW I DO NOT, BUT THE, THE STREET YOU CAN SEE IT'S ERODING OUT.
AND THAT WAS THE SHOULDERS BUCKNER.
UH, THE NEXT THING I WAS CONTACTED BY MR. HAMILTON, JOHN HAMILTON, AND HE WAS INTERESTED IN GETTING A SPEED BUMP, UH, THERE AT VILLA WAY AND MOUNT VERNON, UH, NEAR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO IF YOU COULD SEND ME THE INFORMATION, I KNOW THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT AND I'LL FORWARD THAT TO, UH, HAM, UH, AND HE CAN DO THE OTHER ONE IS A, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE RUMBLE STRIPS, UH, WHEN WE REPAVE GOODWIN NECK ROAD, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME HEAD-ON COLLISIONS THERE.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE, OR AT LEAST WAKE SOME PEOPLE UP.
AND THAT'S IN THE STUDY THING.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
SO JUST WANT YOU TO HAVE YOUR SANTA HAT ON THAT.
ONE'S I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ONE'S IN THE QUEUE, RIGHT? AND THE OTHER ONE IS PLEASED HORNS.
BEEVILLE STILL NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.
AND ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE THAT ROAD SAFER WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
AM I, MY NEXT, UH, ITEM IS MORE A STATEMENT.
I KNOW DID A LOT OF REPAVING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THAT THE REPAVING WAS DONE IN A HAPHAZARD WAY.
YOU TORE UP ONE AREA DISAPPEARED FOR A MONTH OR TWO, THEN CAME BACK AND FIXED THAT AREA.
AND IN THE FUTURE, UH, IF WE COULD GET IN THERE, TEAR UP ONE AREA, FIX IT AND THEN MOVE ON.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE AT ONE POINT IN TIME THAT, UH, EVERYTHING FROM, UH, YORKTOWN TO THE NEWPORT NEWSLINE WAS TORN UP.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE SOME COMMENTS THERE.
Y'ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.MY NAME IS BELINDA WILLIS AND I LIVE IN THIRD DISTRICT.
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBER OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. BELLAMY, AND MR.
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BARNETT, I COME TO YOU TONIGHT AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M NOTICING AN INCREASING CULTURE OF DIVISIVENESS IN MY COMMUNITY.
THAT IS A CULTURE OR A TENDENCY TO WILLFULLY PROVOKE, DISSENSION OR DISCORD, AS OPPOSED TO CREATING UNITY.
I'VE WATCHED THIS CULTURE OF DEVICES.
DIVISIVENESS INCREASE AROUND OUR NATION AS WELL.
AMERICANS ARE UNITED IN SEEING DIVISIVENESS AS A MAJOR PROBLEM AND BELIEVE IT HAS MADE DEALING WITH THE PANDEMIC AND OTHER CRITICAL CHALLENGES.
MORE DIFFICULT CULTURE HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
IT IS WHERE WE LEARN WHAT IS OKAY, AND WHAT IS NOT OKAY, AND HOW WE PICK UP, PICK UP THINGS ON HOW WE PICK UP THINGS ARE DONE AT COUNTRY.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, OUR COMMUNITY HAS THEIR FRAGMENTED CULTURE AT THIS PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH MEANS THAT DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT IS OKAY AND WHAT IS NOT OKAY.
THE PANDEMIC AND ITS IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY HAS CREATED A SCARCITY MENTALITY, WHICH HAS LED PEOPLE TO FOCUS MORE ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL INTERESTS INSTEAD OF WHAT BENEFITS US AS A WHOLE, I'M SEEING LESS COMPASSION IN MY NEIGHBORS, A WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME, ATTITUDE AND INABILITY TO COME TO THE TABLE, WORK TOGETHER AND HEAR EACH OTHER'S OPPOSING POINTS OF VIEW AND TO PROBLEM SOLVE WHILE I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL OVERCOME OUR POLITICAL DIVISIVENESS IN THE COMING YEARS.
I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE TRY.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU AS LEADERS HAVE A KEY ROLE IN ELECTING TO DRIVE FURTHER DIVISIVENESS OR TO PROMOTE UNITY.
I FURTHER BELIEVE THAT THE PERVASIVE DEVICES SUFFICE, IF THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN ON TOP OF THE CURRENT PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN OF THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC RELATED STRESS HAS SHOWN TO HAVE SERIOUS HEALTH CONSEQUENCES.
THIS PROLONGED STRESS IS SERIOUSLY AFFECTING MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN AND ADULTS.
LIKEWISE, A RECENT NATIONAL STUDY FOUND THAT PERCEIVED PARTISAN POLARIZATION MAY ALSO BE A KEY DETRIMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES.
DIVISIVENESS GETS PLAYED OUT ON A CONTINUUM FROM PASSIVE SUBCONSCIOUS BEHAVIORS TO OPPRESSING HISTORICAL TRUTH.
IT ALL HINGES ON THE UNWILLINGNESS TO GIVE UP POWER.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE IS OUR COMMUNITY ONE THAT WELCOMES TOURISTS AND VISITORS THROUGH MARKETS AND FAMILY EVENTS OR ONE WHO ALLOWS A BOATER TO LIGHT UP HIS BOAT WITH A PRO PROFOUND PROFANE MESSAGE WITHIN THE VIEW OF A CRUISE BOAT FILLED WITH TOURISTS, VERY NEAR THE LOVE SCULPTURE SET UP TO A RIVERWALK LANDING.
YOU AS LEADERS MUST PUT ASIDE YOUR PERSONAL INTEREST IN EGOS AND ACTIVELY LISTEN AND SEEK TO UNDERSTAND AS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF MY COMMUNITY, IT HAS BEEN DISHEARTENING TO WITNESS THE DIVISIVENESS AND AS A STAKEHOLDER, I STAND WITH YOU AND OFFER MY ASSISTANCE TO HELL.
THANK YOU, TERRY HOTSON I'M TERRY HOTSON FROM YORKTOWN JUST PRIOR TO THE ELECTION GOP POLITICAL SIGNS WERE ALLOWED TO BE PLACED ON A WATERFRONT BUSINESS ON YOUR COUNTY PROPERTY, A CLEAR VIOLATION OF COUNTY POLICY.
ALSO RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION, SEVERAL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUT FORTH A DIVISIVE RESOLUTION THAT WAS A PROFOUND MIS-CHARACTERIZATION OF THE FACTS AND NOT VETTED OR SUPPORTED BY THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
AND NOW WE HAVE THE LATEST SHOW OF POOR PARTISAN JUDGMENT AND LACK OF LEADERSHIP BY YOUR COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EVENT MEANT TO CELEBRATE THE SEASON OF CHRISTMAS AND BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
HAS INSTEAD DRIVEN FURTHER PART BECAUSE CHAIRMAN GREEN AND SHERIFF DIGGS, WHO WERE JUDGES AT THE LIGHTED BOAT PARADE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO PUT A STOP TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
HOW DID THEY LET A BOAT WHO'S DISRESPECTFUL, DIVISIVE AND PROFANE MESSAGE OF F J B AND LET'S GO BUY IT.
AND BOTH EUPHEMISMS FOR F JOE BIDEN WIN FIRST PLACE.
HOW DID THEY NOT REALIZE THAT THEIR ACTIONS WOULD REFLECT POORLY ON YOUR COUNTY? AND THAT IT WOULD BE POLARIZING AND HURTFUL FOR COMMUNITY STRUGGLING TO FIND COMMON GROUND IN OUR CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE.
AND HOW ABOUT THE RESPONSE AFTERWARDS? WALT ACRES APOLOGIZE TOOK IMMEDIATE ACTION AND PROMISED TO TAKE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THIS NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN.
AND HE AND NEIL MORGAN SPENT HOURS RESPONDING TO EMAILS FROM ANGRY CONSTITUENTS.
WHAT DID MR. GREEN AND MR. DIGGS DO AS REPORTED A NEWS ARTICLES, THEY CLAIM FREE SPEECH AND COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THE CONTROVERSY, IN ADDITION, MR. GREEN TOLD REPORTERS, THE RESPONSE HAS
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BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CONTACTED ME.I FIND THAT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE, ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING THE COMMENTS FROM A LARGE NUMBER OF EXTREMELY UPSET PEOPLE HERE ARE JUST A FEW, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WAS ALLOWED IN THE PARADE.
AND THEY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS.
WHAT A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE FOR FAMILIES.
I WAS THERE WITH MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.
I FELT EMBARRASSED HEARTSICK AND SAID THAT POLITICS TAINTED.
WHAT WAS BUILT AS A FAMILY HOLIDAY EVENT WAS SUCH VULGAR SEDIMENTS.
ALL THE MORE DISTURBING THAT THE MESSAGE WAS JUDGED WORTHY OF AN AWARD IT'S INDICATIVE OF THE STATE OF THIS COUNTRY, WHERE MEANNESS AND CRUELTY, AREN'T JUST TOLERATED.
NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED AND REWARDED.
AND THESE FROM TWO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS VERY SAD AND DISTURBING THAT CIVILITY RESPECTABLE BEHAVIOR AND COMMUNITY PRIDE SEEM TO NO LONGER BE THE NORMS OF OUR SOCIETY.
I PERSONALLY UP THROUGH INCIDENT POLITICS ASIDE, IT WAS IN VERY BAD TASTE AND I'M SURE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO MANY AND FROM TOWN BANK OF A PARADE SPONSOR, THE CURRENT POLITICAL DIVIDE IS UPSETTING.
AND WE'RE TROUBLED TO HEAR THAT A FESTIVE TRADITION WAS MARRED BY NEGATIVE SEDIMENT.
WE LIVE IN A HIGHLY POLARIZED SOCIETY IN OUR COUNTRY'S IN DESPERATE NEED OF HEALING.
IF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WE NEED RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WILLING TO GO ABOVE TO A NON-PARTISAN CODE OF CONDUCT, POSSIBLY LIKE THAT OF JAMES CITY COUNTY.
IN ADDITION, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO STOP ACTIONS, WHICH DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND INSTEAD FOCUS ON ACTIONS THAT ARE FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL THE CITIZENS THEY REPRESENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
IS THIS BETTER? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M DANA DE JAGER AT 1 0 8 HORSESHOE DRIVE.
AND I CAME TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT IT'S REALLY BECOME THE DEATH OF A THOUSAND CUTS, RIGHT? THERE ARE SO MANY CAUSES OF THE DECLINE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT ONE.
I WAS MOVED TO SPEAK TONIGHT BECAUSE OF SO MANY NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS WHO HAVE COME TO ME OVER THE MONTHS AND YEARS TALKING ABOUT THEIR OWN CHALLENGES.
AND I'VE BASICALLY JUST HAD ENOUGH AND I WANT TO BRING IT UP TO THE, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ONE OF MY KID'S TEACHERS TALKED ABOUT HOW SOME OF HER STUDENTS LIVE IN HOTELS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND HOUSING.
ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS TALKED ABOUT IN THE OLD DAYS, HER FAMILY WAS BROUGHT DOWN TO THE PENNIMAN AREA TO FIND STARTER HOMES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD FIND AN AFFORDABLE HOME, UH, IN YOUR FIRST HOME.
AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR HOURS FOR THE CHILDREN TO EITHER CATCH THE BUS OR COME HOME FROM THE BUS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE WORKERS BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND BUS DRIVERS.
AND WE CAN'T FIND OTHER FOLKS WHO, UM, WORK IN THESE JOBS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA.
AND THEN LOOK AT THE MOST RECENT THING, THE CHEESE SHOP, RIGHT, OUR ICONIC, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SHE SHOP WHERE I GO AND GRAB A SANDWICH AND SIT AND CHAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WITH THEIR DOGS.
THEY ALSO CAN'T FIND EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
NOW, THE COUNTY HAS STATED IN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE THE HIGH DENSITY.
UM, OUR 13 AS A PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND, UH, THEY STATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I'VE HEARD IT STATED AND OTHER TIMES, AND THEY'VE EVEN GONE FORWARD TO, UH, HELP THE OLD GEORGE WASHINGTON IN BE RENOVATED AND PROVIDED A $30,000 FORGIVABLE LOAN TO HELP THAT BECOME AFFORDABLE APARTMENT HOUSING.
AND NOW YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS A WHOLE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE 13, THE ONES THAT DO FALL IN THAT FIRST TIME HOME BUYER TYPE OF HOME, THE SCOPE OF BUSINESS THAT'S ALLOWED IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IS, UH, LIMITED.
SO THAT THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, OF THE HOME IS RESIDENTIAL AND THE SECONDARY FUNCTION OF THE HOME IS COMMERCIAL.
AND THAT'S TRUE IN ALL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, BUT THERE'S ONE LOOPHOLE AND THAT'S WHOLE HOUSE RENTALS.
SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AIRBNBS STRS.
THERE ARE THREE APPLICATIONS JUST IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND IF THOSE ARE APPROVED AS WHOLE HOUSE RENTALS, THEY WILL REMOVE THREE HOMES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE THREE HOMES THAT COULD BE, UM, HOMEOWNERS THAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF RENTERS THAT ARE, UM, AND THEY'RE OWNED BY BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU, WILL YOU BE PART OF THE SOLUTION
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AS YOU HAVE ALL PLEDGED TO IMPROVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR WHETHER YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM ONE APPROVAL AT A TIME.ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT WHO IS NOT ALREADY COMMENTED? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR.
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
BARNETT, UH, NO LEGAL REPORT.I WILL STATE THAT AFTER THE, UM, RANSOMWARE ATTACK THAT HIT THE HIT THE COMMONWEALTH, IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST PART OF IT HAS BEEN CLEARED UP.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MANNER, BUT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BILLS ARE STARTING TO BE POSTED.
SO IN THE COMING WEEKS, YOU WILL START TO SEE INFORMATION FROM ME ON BILLS OF INTEREST.
USUALLY THE ONSLAUGHT OF BILLS DOESN'T REALLY GET STARTED AT LEAST UNTIL AFTER CHRISTMAS.
AND MAYBE EVEN NOT UNTIL AFTER JANUARY ONE, GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL BEGIN AT SESSION.
I'M ASSUMING AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF JANUARY.
BUT IF EVER YOU SEE, UH, ANY BILLS OR HEAR OF ANY BILLS OF INTEREST AND YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION I HAVE TONIGHT, UNLESS THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND WE HAD MR. BELLAMY.JUST SOME WELL-WISHES FOR THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
AND FROM THE STAFF, A HAPPY BIRTHDAY WISH FOR MR. SHEPHERD.
[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]
MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD.AND I'M GOING TO START WITH MISS KNOLL.
I'M GOING TO GERO WHAT THE ARCHIVE REGISTRATOR SAID.
I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A VERY, VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND WHATEVER RELIGION YOU BELONG TO AND WHATEVER YOU CELEBRATE.
I HOPE YOU HAVE HAPPY DAYS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A HEALTHY AND KINDER NEW YEAR.
WE'VE WE'VE ALL HAD PROBLEMS AND TALKING ABOUT COVID COVID HAS INCREASED THE ANGST THAT I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE HAD.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT BEHIND US AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY YOUR FAMILIES THROUGH THE SEASON, BUT THANK YOU.
THOSE WHO CANNOT ENJOY THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY'RE DEPLOYED OR FOR SOME, THEY MAY BE IN THE HOSPITAL.
THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER REASON THAT THEY CAN'T BE WITH YOU, BUT WE'LL KEEP THEM ALL IN OUR PRAYERS.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE COME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE CITIZENS WHO SHARE THEIR VIEW WITH US.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, MR. ROB.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, LAST WEEK I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE WITH OUR SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND MY PEER ON SCHOOL BOARD, MR. RICHARDSON.
SANDORA, MR. RICHARDSON TOOK ME ON A LITTLE FIELD TRIP TO THE GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL AND THE, UH, NEW HORIZON CAMPUS OFF OF, UH, HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I SAW THERE IN THE, UM, IN THE, IN THE SCHOOL.
THAT, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS IN YOUR COUNTY, HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IN YORK COUNTY TO GO AND GET A ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR PROGRAMS, CERTIFICATIONS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS, DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES, HVAC, PLUMBING, UM, DENTAL SERVICES, ORTHOPEDIC, UM, AUTOMOTIVE, UH, LIKE ELECTRICAL AND OTHERS.
I'M NOT EVEN, I CAN'T EVEN RECALL AT THE MOMENT.
SO IF YOU'RE A PARENT WITH ANYBODY IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE LOOK AT TO WHAT NEW HORIZONS OFFERS AND, UM, WORK WITH A GUIDANCE COUNSELOR AND SEE, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S NOT A, JUST AN ALTERNATIVE TO COLLEGE.
THEY, THE ADMINISTRATORS AT THE SCHOOL TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT USE THAT TO COMPLIMENT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO STUDY IN COLLEGE, OR USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THAT'S AN INDUSTRY THEY WANT TO GET STARTED IN AND MAYBE EXPAND THAT IN COLLEGE STUDIES AS WELL.
SO I REALLY CAN'T RECOMMEND THAT HIGHLY ENOUGH NOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT IN PERSON.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT HIGH SCHOOL, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF YORK COUNTY KIDS AT EVERY CLASS THAT WE, THAT WE PEEKED INTO THAT DAY.
SO YOU WILL KIND IS WELL REPRESENTED THERE.
UH, SECOND OF ALL, UH, THE YORK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE, THE, UH, THE SERVICE OFFICE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I FORGET EXACTLY WHEN IN THEIR ANNUAL USUALLY CALL IT SHOP WITH THE, WITH THE COP OR SHOP WITH THE DEPUTY, UM, DRIVE THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DUE TO COVID, WHERE THEY HAD A, A CARAVAN ALONG THE, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SERVICE OFFICE AIR TO HANDOUT, UH, STOCKING STUFFERS AND PRESENCE AND TREATS AND SO FORTH TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FAMILIES AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND
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KIND OF KEEP THE DEPUTY STAFF SO THEY CAN ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO HAND OFF TO THE NEXT CAR THAT CAME THROUGH THE LINE.UM, I HOPE WE GET TO DO THAT AGAIN.
UH, NEXT YEAR, GOING FORWARD A LOT OF HAPPY SMILING FACES IN THE, IN THOSE CARS.
UM, GETTING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A EARLY CHRISTMAS YEAR, SO VERY HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND ALSO WRAP IT UP MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, HAPPY NEW YEARS.
I HOPE EVERYBODY ENJOYS THEIR TIME.
AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL IN 2022, BUT THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD.
UH, AND, UH, AND THAT FEEL YOUNGER EVERY, YOU KNOW, I SAID THE ONLY WAY I GET MY, UH, A GOLF GOLF BALL TO GO FURTHER IS TO GET YOUNGER, I'LL WORK ON IT.
SO LOOK, UH, THE COMMENT ON CULTURE, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.
UM, I MEAN, YOU PUT IT ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE AND, AND, UH, I, UH, RECENTLY ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE HAMPTON ROADS, MILITARY FEDERAL FACILITY ALLIANCE, WHICH I REPRESENT, UH, YOUR COUNTY ON.
AND IT'S ORGANIZATIONS DESIGNED TO PROTECT OUR MILITARY BASES, ALL OUR FEDERAL SERVICES, COAST GUARD, YOU NAMED THE FBI.
AND IT'S THE KIND OF, BECAUSE THE PILLARS OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, UH, ECONOMY HERE, UH, THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REALLY ONE OF THEM.
AND, UH, AND I WAS, UH, THEY GAVE, UH, A BRIEFING ON, UM, THIS ONE CAME FROM THE RONALD REAGAN FOUNDATION AND INSTITUTE.
UH, IT TALKED ABOUT THE CONFIDENCE IN, UH, UM, IN, UH, MAJOR, UH, SOCIETAL INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND I JUST RE JUST BRIEFLY A SUMMARY, UH, IF YOU COULD THINK BACK TO NOVEMBER EIGHT, UH, NOVEMBER, 2018, THAT'S THE ONLY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
RIGHT? AND, UM, THE MILITARY WAS AT A HIGH 70%.
THE CONFIDENCE NOW IS DOWN TO 45 AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT'S DRIVEN THAT I'D KIND OF FORGOTTEN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MILITARY AROUND IT, AND THEY DO A TREMENDOUS JOB, BUT OUR SOCIETY IS STARTING TO HAVE LESS CONFIDENCE IN OUR MILITARY POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS ON THE NEWS ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS, UH, WITH THE POLICE AND SOCIETY.
UH, THE PRESIDENCY, UM, WAS AT 28%.
THE SUPREME COURT WAS AT 27% IN 2018.
IT'S NOW DOWN TO 18% NEWS MEDIA.
UM, WHEN I WAS A KID NEWS MEDIA REALLY HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, MIKE WALLACE AND, AND ALL THOSE, UH, THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WAY UP ON TOP.
AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO SEE IT WAS 16% CONFIDENCE IN, UH, 2018 AND IS DOWN TO 10% TODAY.
AND OF COURSE THE BOTTOM FEEDER ON ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN IN CONGRESS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOWN AT 5%, 2018, AND SOMEHOW IT MANAGED TO JUMP UP TO SIX, UH, NOW, UM, SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S A LOT OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE NOW NOT BEING, OR BEING SEEN IN A, IN A MORE NEGATIVE LIGHT, UM, THINGS IN OUR SOCIETY.
THIS ONE ALSO FROM THE, UH, INSTITUTION TALKED ABOUT, DO WE SPEND ENOUGH OR DO WE SPEND TOO LITTLE? AND IT COMES TO HERE IS WHEN WE COULD THINK OF THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS ROADS AND BRIDGES.
61% OF THOSE SURVEYED SAID THAT WE SPEND TOO LITTLE, ONLY 10% SAID TOO MUCH.
EDUCATION'S 58% VERSUS 13, UH, HEALTH HEALTHCARE, 56% VERSUS 14% AND A BORDER SECURITY, 47%, UH, TOO LITTLE VERSUS 19%.
THEN YOU GET TO THE MILITARY AND IT'S ABOUT 50 50.
SO IT'S ABOUT, ABOUT 26%, TOO MUCH, TOO LITTLE 27%, TOO MUCH PROMOTING FREEDOM ABROAD.
UM, WHICH USED TO BE OUR, ONE OF OUR FOUNDATION, THINGS THAT WE DID, UM, AS NOW WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH IS 30% VERSUS 22%.
AND FOREIGN AID IS DOWN NOW, 51% VERSUS 14.
THAT'S THE BIG INDICATION OF HOW THINGS HAVE SHIFTED IN JUST THREE YEARS IN OUR SOCIETY AND HOW WE LOOK AT STUFF, THIS CHART, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN SHOW, YOU CAN SEE IT ONLINE.
THIS IS A CHART USED BY OUR CONGRESS.
IT'S A SENATORIAL CHART, UH, TO DEBRIEF OUR CONGRESS.
AND IN THERE THEY HAVE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO TALK ABOUT IN 2017, UM, $19 TRILLION OF DEBT, $19.9 TRILLION IN DEBT TODAY, UH, IN 2021, IT WAS SITTING AT ABOUT 20, 26, 20 7 TRILLION.
AND, UH, AT PRESENT IT'S NOW $28.4 TRILLION IN DEBT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE USED TO BE A RESPONSIBILITY.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PAY YOUR BILLS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY YOUR BILLS? THESE ARE THINGS IN OUR SOCIETY IF CHIP HAS CHANGED AND JUST THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THAT.
SO WE NEED TO PROBABLY TAKE A LOOK INSIDE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THINGS? WHERE IS OUR SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? CHANGE ANOTHER SUBJECT REAL QUICK AND TALK ABOUT SPENDING MONEY.
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14TH.I HAD A CHANCE TO, IF YOU COULD SEE THIS ON THE CAMERA, THAT IS THE FRONT OF WHAT WE CALL THE TUNNEL BORING MACHINE AT TBM.
AND IT WAS DELIVERED HERE IN PARTS, I THINK 127 PARTS THAT THING, THIS, THIS MACHINE IS GOING TO BORE TUNNEL.
FROM A HAMPTON ROADS, ARE YOU FROM I'M FROM NEWPORT NEWS OR NORFOLK? CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH WAY IT'S GOING TO GO UNDER AND UNDERNEATH IT, UNDERNEATH THE ROADS.
AND IT'S GOING TO COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE.
WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT AROUND AND IT'S GOING TO BOARD FOR ITS WAY BACK.
THIS MACHINE WEIGHS 4,700 TONS.
UH, IT'S A HUNDRED, EXCUSE ME.
I THINK IT'S 46 FEET HIGH NOW, 46 FEET HIGH LAYS.
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU GO STAND IN FRONT OF A FOUR STORY BUILDING, THAT'S HOW BIG THIS, THE FRONT IS MACHINE.
AND THE GUYS SIT INSIDE THIS MACHINE AS IT BORES ITS WAY.
AND UNDER THE TUNNEL IT'S GOING TO DO ABOUT 50, 50 FEET A DAY.
AND BY 2025, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TUNNEL.
AND IT'S THE WHOLE THING'S GOING TO BE DONE SUPPOSEDLY IN 2025.
AND WE'LL HAVE THREE TO FOUR LANES GOING BOTH WAYS AND THAT SHE'LL REALLY IMPROVE OUR STUFF.
AND THEN FINALLY YESTERDAY, UH, STEVE, RON AND I AND NEIL MORGAN, UM, AND A HOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE STAFF PARTICIPATED IN RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE, UH, UM, FOR THE ICE.
UH, I 64 WIDENING THAT WAS ONE SECTION OF, UH, OF THE MULTITUDE OF PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S ABOUT A $500 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AND IT ALL STARTED IN 2014.
AND IT'S NOW THAT PART'S COMPLETED, BUT WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PROJECTS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $8 BILLION IN PROJECTS.
UM, IF WE'D LOOK AT THE ONES WE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, IT'S $5.5 BILLION.
THE CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTY, EXCUSE ME.
CITIZENS, YOUR COUNTY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PAYMENT WITH THE OTHER 14 JURISDICTIONS OF HAMPTON ROADS OF, OF, UH, 4.5 OR $4.7 BILLION OF THAT 5.5.
WE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND HAMPTON ROADS HAVE FUNDED THIS, THESE PROJECTS.
AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE FEDERAL MONEY IN IT.
THE STATE'S GIVEN US SOME MONEY, BUT IT'S BEEN US.
AND BY THE, BY IF YOU LOOK AT THE 5.5 BILLION, IT WILL BE OF THAT 96% OF US FUNDING THAT.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE OUR TRIPS AND OUR BUSINESS AND OUR ECONOMY, THE PORT TOURISM THEY'LL MAKE IT ALL ACCESSIBLE.
SO IT WILL BE WORKING ON THOSE NOTES.
I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A MERRY, UH, HAPPY NEW YEAR, UH, WHEN IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UH, HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR SHOULD BE REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE WE'LL START SEEING SOME MORE OF THESE BIG PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING COME TO FRUITION.
UH, JUST TO ECHO WHAT MR. SHEPHERD SAID.
I AM SUPER EXCITED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF NEXT YEAR AND WHAT'S WHAT'S TO COME.
I WISH EVERYBODY A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL OPEN OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, IN FIVE MINUTES AT ABOUT, UH, 15 AFTER SEVEN WE'RE IN RECESS.
[1 Application No. UP-972-21, William & Marina Boothe. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R21-143 to approve an application for a Special Use Permit to authorize a tourist home in an existing dwelling at 1149 Duncan Drive (Route 722).]
BACK.AND NOW I'M GOING TO CALL ON THIS PARKER FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION AS PARKER.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR A TOURIST HOME.
IF YOU COULD SPEAK UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A TOURIST HOME IN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT 1149 DUNCAN DRIVE, THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOLLOWING A RECEIPT OF A ZONING VIOLATION.
NOTICE AS SOON AS HE GOT THE NOTICE, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, SOPHISTICATED MAP.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IT'S IN THE YORK TERRACE SUBDIVISION, UM, TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT OPEN OPEN SPACE.
THERE IS A DOMINION POWER EASEMENT.
UM, THERE ARE TWO, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE AREA.
UH, ONE IS EXISTING W AT ONE 13 EDL, UH, IT WAS APPROVED IN 2017.
IT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION CURRENTLY FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A WHOLE HOUSE TO BE RENTED, UM, WITH AN OFFSITE, UM, PROPRIETOR AND ALLOW SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK.
UM, WHEN THE COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR IT, IT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE JANUARY MEETING.
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SECOND NEW APPLICATION, UH, OH, AND THAT'S ABOUT 1.2 MILES.NEW SECOND APP, UH, APPLICATION AT 1 44 5 PENNAMEN ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, DOWN NEAR THE EAST END OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK, UM, LOCATED ABOUT 1.4 MILES FROM HERE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND, UH, THAT HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED FOR A BOARD HEARING AS OF, AS OF TODAY ZONING MAP, UH, AT LEAST SURROUNDED BY OUR 13 HIGH DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, THE EO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S THE WEST END OF THE BUSH INDUSTRIAL PARK AND BEYOND PANTHER PAW PATH, UH, IS OUR, OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PROTECTION AREA OVERLAY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR WALLER MILL RESERVOIR, BUT THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE LAND ON THE PROPERTY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL SCENARIO, UM, SHOWING THAT SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EXCEPT FOR THE POWER LINE TO THE BACK.
AND THERE'S A CLOSEUP FENCED IN BACKYARD AND NOTE THE A LONG DRIVEWAY, PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PARKING OFF STREET, PARKING, SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY AND LOOKING AT THE BACKYARD, SHOWING THE FENCED IN AREA, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST AND ADJACENT NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.
THE GRAY HOUSE IS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE.
THEY WILL BE IN RESIDENCE, UH, DURING ALL TIMES THAT THE RENTALS ARE GOING ON AND LOOKING WESTTOWN DUNCAN CROSS THE STREET AND OPPOSITE DIRECTION DOWN DUNKIN SKETCH PLAN OF THE PROPERTY, SHOWING THE FENCED IN AREA, UM, PARKING 85 FEET LONG, 20 FEET WIDE.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR ALL OFFSITE, UH, UM, OFF STREET PARKING, SEE APPLICANTS FLOOR PLAN, UH, IT'S A SMALL HOUSE, ONE, UH, 1,100 SQUARE FEET, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS, KITCHEN, AND DINING ROOM AND LIVING ROOM.
THIS WOULD BE A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL ONLY INDIVIDUAL ROOMS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO BE LEASED OUT MAXIMUM OF SIX GUESTS AT ANY ONE TIME.
UH, APPLICANTS HAS, UH, ESTABLISHED HOW WOULD ESTABLISH HOUSE RULES, NO SMOKING, NO PETS OFF STREET PARKING AND MAINTAIN QUIET.
THE OWNERS WOULD RESIDE AT THE ADJACENT PREMISE DURING ALL TIMES OF THE TOURIST HOME RENTALS, UH, FOR OFF STREET PARKING PLACES ARE REQUIRED, WHICH THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM FOR STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THOUGH.
ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED USE.
ACCORDING TO THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE HAS AN AVERAGE OF 9.6 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS.
THERE WOULD BE A UP TO 10.6 AVERAGE, UH, IN ADDITION FOR THE TOURIST TRAIL, THIS SECTION OF DUNCAN DRIVE, ACCORDING TO V DOT, UM, UH, AVERAGES HAS APPROXIMATELY 180 ESTIMATED DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS.
OUR PROPOSED APPROVAL CONDITIONS C BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS IN THE APPLICANTS NARRATIVE SITE LAYOUT AND FLOOR PLANS WOULD BE AS DEPICTED ON THE APPLICATION PLANS OWNER-OPERATOR WOULD BE, UH, RESIDE IN THE ADJACENT DWELLING DURING RENTALS, A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL, THREE BEDROOM, SIX GUESTS LIMIT PARKING, UH, OFF STREET AT ALL TIMES.
AND THE TERM OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE WITH CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OR CHANGE IN RESIDENCY, UH, BY THE APPLICANTS IN THE ADJACENT DWELLING WITH THAT, WE FEEL THE OPERATIONS CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TOURIST HOMES.
UH, THE OWNER OPERATOR WOULD RESIDE, UH, RIGHT NEXT DOOR AT ALL TIMES DURING THE RENTALS, WE DON'T FEEL THERE'D BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THEIR SURROUNDING AREA.
IT'S A SMALL HOUSE AND CONDITIONS WITH LIMITED TO A SMALL SCALE OPERATION, AND WE WOULD THEREFORE RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION 20 R 21 DASH 1 43.
AND I WOULD NOTE, WE DID PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, WE RECEIVED EIGHT EMAIL COMMENTS, FIVE AND SUPPORT THREE IN OPPOSITION.
AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE EMAIL IN OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. PARKER? YES.
WOULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE OPPOSITION AND WE'RE AT, CAME FROM PLACE WHERE THEIR NEIGHBORS, UM, THE EMAIL, YOU MEAN THIS MORNING? THE ONE WE GOT JUST TODAY, EXCUSE ME.
THE ONE WE JUST, THE EMAIL WE GOT TODAY WAS THE MOST RECENT ONE IS FROM A NEIGHBOR.
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NO, THAT WAS SO MANY IN, IN, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS QUEEN'S LAKE WAS NOT SOMEONE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.WHAT I LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT COMMENTS DID WE GET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHERE THEY CONTACTED? DID THEY HAVE A CHANCE THAT THEY WERE CON THEM? YEAH.
THE POSITIVE ONES WERE ALL NEIGHBORS RIGHT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO DID YOU HAVE ANY ADVERSE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THEN? UM, THERE WAS THREE ON OPPOSITION, THREE, AN OPPOSITION.
OKAY, MR. RYAN, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE OPPOSITION? WHAT WERE THEIR CONCERNS? UM, THAT IT WAS A USE THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN A M R 13 NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE MOST PART.
AND, AND WERE THEY NEIGHBORS OF THE PROPERTY OR WERE THEY RESIDENTS ELSEWHERE? DO YOU KNOW? IT WAS A COMBINATION.
UM, GO, GO, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE RULES ON IT? OKAY.
UM, LET'S, WE'RE GOING TO PETS ALL STREET POCKET ONLY QUIET.
UM, THE APPLICANTS, THIS IS NOT THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, BUT THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS, WE HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS THAT THEY WILL BE IN RESIDENCE WHENEVER YES, THERE IS A PROPOSED APPROVED APPROVAL CONDITION TO THAT EFFECT.
AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS ONLY FOR AS LONG AS THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND THAT WAS NO LONGER THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
THESE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AUTOMATICALLY DISSOLVED.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE FREQUENCY OF THE SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTALS THIS WEEK TO WEEK OR ONCE A MONTH, OR DO WE HAVE, UM, IT WASN'T INDICATED BY THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN CAN ADDRESS.
WE'LL GET, WE'LL GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SPEAK HERE IN A MOMENT.
UM, THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS THAT A WEEK AT A TIME, TWO WEEKS AT A TIME, WHAT, WHAT DEFINES THE SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTALS LESS THAN 90 DAYS, LESS THAN 90 DAYS.
AND ARE THEY COULDN'T, COULD THEY BE CONSECUTIVE SO LESS THAN 90 DAYS AND EMILIA TURNAROUND AND THE RESCHEDULE FOR ANOTHER SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE.
THANKS, MR. I JUST, UM, IT, THE, I KNOW WE NORMALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS ON THESE, THIS KIND OF SITUATION, BUT I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IS, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THE PRICE OF THE GENERAL, THE HOMES IN THIS GENERAL AREA? UH, YOU DO NOT, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN MAYBE GIVE ME AN IDEA ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF WE BRING THEM UP, RIGHT.
AND MS. PARKER, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU THIS TIME.
I SEE THE APPLICANT NEAR, AND IF YOU COULD, UH, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES, YOU CAN COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.
AND, UH, IF YOU COULD, UH, ADDRESS THOSE AND TAKE YOUR MASK OFF, HELLO, EVERYONE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT THIS EVENING.
MY NAME IS MATT BOOTH, WILLIAM BOOTH ON SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS.
UH, AND THIS IS MY WIFE MARINA BOOTH.
THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR THE SHORT TERM.
RENTAL IS AT 1149 DUNKIN DRIVE.
MY MOTHER AND FATHER LIVE AT 1147 DUNKIN DRIVE.
SO WE'RE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
UM, THE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE READ THE LETTERS THAT WE'RE SENDING AN OPPOSITION AND BOTH IN APPROVAL TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UH, ANY OF THE ONES THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION WERE NOT DIRECT ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THEY WERE ALL EITHER OUTSIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR FURTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, ANY OF THE LETTERS THAT I READ AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU GUYS HAD ALL THOSE, OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE READ A FEW OF THEM, MYSELF, THE NEGATIVES THAT I SAW OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT CAME INTO THIS MORNING, WHICH WAS VERY DETAILED, UM, WERE MORE AGAINST RENTALS THEMSELVES, OR AT LEAST SEVERAL OF THEM THAT I SAW, UH, OR TWO OF THEM I SAW WERE IN OPPOSITION TO JUST RENTAL PROPERTIES PERIOD, THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED TO RENTAL PROPERTIES, NOT JUST SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR AT LEAST THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WAS.
UM, THE QUESTION MR. SHEPHERD HAD ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, I'M HAPPY TO BE A REALTOR AS WELL.
SO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A DIVERSE SIZE.
THEY'RE SMALLER HOMES, 1100, 1,011 HUNDRED.
SOME OF THEM ARE 15 1600, BUT THE MAJORITY ARE ABOUT A THOUSAND, 1100, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
THOSE HOMES WOULD HAVE BEEN SELLING FOR 160, 170.
NOW, MOST RECENTLY, IF IT'S A RENOVATED WELL, KEPT PROPERTY, MORE LIKE 200.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
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THAT, UH, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE 90 DAY TIMEFRAME, UM, FOR, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SHORT-TERM RENTAL, IS ANYTHING LESS THAN A 90 DAY STAY.SO IF YOU STAY FOR TWO DAYS SHORT TERM RENTAL, 89 DAYS, SHORT TERM RENTAL, ALSO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING ANYTHING OVER 90 DAYS, THERE'S NO REQUIRED APPROVAL OR ANY SPECIAL USE.
AND ALSO YOU DON'T PAY, UM, THE TAXES THAT YOU PAY IF YOU DO SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
SO IF I DO SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND YOU RENT IT FOR 30 DAYS, YOU PAY YOUR COUNTY ADDITIONAL TAXES BASED OFF THE TIME THAT THE PEOPLE STAY.
IF IT'S 90 DAYS IS HANDLED JUST LIKE A REGULAR LONG-TERM RENTAL.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE PROVIDING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND DURATION? TYPICAL DURATION? YES, SIR.
SO WITH THE PROPERTY IS IN BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY MOTHER, AND WE DECIDED TO USE IT OR WANT TO USE IT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, NOT WANTING TO HAVE IT RENTED ALL THE TIME.
UH, WE HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND OTHER STATES.
WE HAVE, UH, WE CHOSE TO STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT MOVE TO A LARGER HOME.
ONCE WE HAD OUR CHILD, UH, DUE TO MY MOTHER LIVE NEXT DOOR, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A BABYSITTER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING FAMILY NEARBY.
SO FOR US HAVING A SECOND HOME TO INVITE PEOPLE INTO FOR SAY CHRISTMAS, NEW YEARS, WHENEVER IT IS WHENEVER WE'D LIKE TO USE IT FOR THAT.
AND THEN IN THE MEANTIME, IN THE INTERIM, BE ABLE TO RENT IT OUT.
HOWEVER, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT OURSELVES TO SAY OR CONFUSING ONE BY SAYING, HEY, WE ONLY WANT TO RENT IT THREE DAYS A WEEK.
THE, UH, YEAH, TO OUR UNDERSTANDING, IT WOULD BE IF WE CAN RENT IT, WE WANT TO RENT IT WHEN WE WANT TO AND USE IT FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL USE WHEN WE'D LIKE TO AS WELL.
AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN YOUR CURRENT HOME? I LIVED IN 1149 FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS AND LIVED IN 1151 SINCE LAST OCTOBER.
AND MY, UH, MOTHER AND FATHER-IN-LAW LIVE NEXT DOOR AND 1147 BEEN THERE FOR 30, 40 YEARS.
WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF GOING ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON.
SO I'M ALSO TO MY KNOWLEDGE BACK TO THE COMMENT, UH, I KNOW THAT THE, OF COURSE THE ONES ON BOTH SIDES ARE OBVIOUSLY HAPPY WITH IT, THE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SUPPORT LETTERS SENT IN FROM BOTH OF THEM AND THE NEIGHBORS TO THE RIGHT OF ME.
UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN TO THE RIGHT.
SO DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH A BUNCH OF INFORMATION.
WOULD RATHER ASK ANSWER QUESTIONS AS THEY'RE PROVIDED MS. MR. BOOTH.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY HOUSES AT THE BEACH.
A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY HOUSES IN THE MOUNTAINS FOR SECOND HOME.
YOU'VE PURCHASED THIS HOUSE AS A SECOND HOME, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO RENT IT WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING IT.
IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION OR ARE, DID YOU PURCHASE THIS TOO? UH, TOO SHORT FROM RENTAL? NO, SIR.
MY, UH, ORIGINAL RESIDENCE WAS AT 1149 FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS.
UH, WE PURCHASED THAT HOME AS 1100 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AT THE TIME THAT I PURCHASED THAT HOME, I WAS SINGLE.
I UNDERSTAND A FEW YEARS AGO I GOT MARRIED AND ALL MY STUFF WENT AWAY WHEN MY WIFE MOVED IN AND THEN I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.
I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE HER THAN STUFF.
AND THEN FEBRUARY OF 2020 DURING THE MAJOR PART OF FANDOM STARTING, WE HAD OUR FIRST CHILD AND, UH, WE KNEW WE NEEDED SOME MORE SPACE.
SO WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR AT 1151, WHICH WAS 11, UH, 1600 SQUARE FEET.
PLUS IT HAS AN ADDITIONAL GARAGE WITH ABOUT 1200 SQUARE FEET THERE.
SO IT'S ALMOST TRIPLED OUR SIZE OF ACCOMMODATIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR MOVE OUT OF THE AREA.
SO WE, IT WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN A LONG-TERM RENTAL WOULD HAVE BEEN MOST LIKELY THE PATH, SORRY.
IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 OF LAST YEAR IS WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST CHILD.
WE STARTED RENOVATING THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO 1151 COV, IT'S GOING ON OCTOBER OF 2020.
MY MOTHER GOT DIAGNOSED WITH SMALL CELL LUNG CANCER, VERY AGGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, NOT GOOD AT ALL.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO IMMEDIATELY, AS WE MOVED INTO 1151, JUST STICK ANYBODY IN BETWEEN US.
SO INITIALLY WE WERE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT.
AND THEN WE SAID, WELL, OKAY, WE'LL RUN IT WITH SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE IN THERE WHEN WE DON'T, IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO COME UP AND SPEND TIME WITH MY MOM, THEY CAN STAY IN THE HOUSE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY WITH HER WHILE SHE'S GOING THROUGH THAT.
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THE CONVERSATION, BUT I WILL SAY THAT AS OF LAST WEEK, SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BEING CANCER-FREE AND THAT IS SHE'S ONE OF 5%.UH, AND WE'RE SUPER HAPPY ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT HOUSE WAS NOT PURCHASED.
UH, IT WAS JUST, I DO OWN OTHER HOMES.
UM, AND THAT HOUSE 1149 WAS JUST PRIMARY RESIDENCE AND 1151 JUST CAME TO BE AVAILABLE FOR A LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THERE'S NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO? UM, NO, JUST MAINLY THAT I, I WOULD LIKE, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE LETTERS WITH ME, BUT THE SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS KNOWN ME FOR THE LAST 14, 15 YEARS KNOW THAT, UH, BEFORE MARINA WAS THERE AND NOW THAT MARINA IS HERE, MY NEIGHBORS ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY BUSINESS, MY NEIGHBORS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MONEY.
THERE'S NO, UH, INTENT AT ANY POINT THAT IF WE HAVE ANYONE IN OUR HOME, UH, THE RULES HAD ON THERE QUIET, BUT IT'S MEANT TO BE QUIET ENJOYMENT, MEANING THAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PEOPLE STAYING IN THE RENTAL PROPERTY, NOT TO BE ANY NEGATIVE, BUT ARE IT'S VERY WELL POINTED OUT PRIOR TO BOOKING WHEN THEY BOOK AND AFTER THEY BOOK THAT IF YOU HAVE PLANS OF BEING LOUD PARTY AS BOISTEROUS, IF ANYTHING, YOU WILL BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.
AND YOU KNOW, SO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY, THANK YOU.
WAS THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON MS. D ACRE.
MY NAME IS DANA DE JAGER AND I OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL.
I LIVE AT 1 0 8 HORSESHOE DRIVE IN, UH, DISTRICT ONE.
I WANT TO START OUT BY APPLAUDING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR ASKING THE STAFF AND THE, UM, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE IMPROVED GUIDANCE FOR, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THEY ASKED THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH, UM, GUIDANCE TO, UH, PROVIDE MORE, UM, UH, BASIS FOR DECISIONS FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO MAKE AND REALLY TO, UM, CONSTRAIN THE SCOPE OF THE STRS AND WERE TO MAINTAIN THE USE PRIMARILY AS RESIDENTIAL AND SECONDARILY AS COMMERCIAL, JUST AS ALL OTHER BUSINESSES ARE REQUIRED TO DO IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND MY QUESTION FOR YOU TONIGHT IS HOW MANY IS TOO MANY, RIGHT? THERE'S ONE TONIGHT.
THERE'S TWO MORE COMING UP WITHIN A MILE OF THIS ONE.
SO HOW MANY IS TOO MANY OLD HOUSE RENTALS THAT STILL MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY FEEL? AND THE PRESERVE PRESERVATION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS VERY CLEARLY STATED THEY WANT TO PRESERVE.
AND JUST TO POINT OUT, THIS IS JUST THREE AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF APPLICATIONS, BUT A LOT OF THESE APPLICANTS AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA ON MANY OTHER PROPERTIES.
SO THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE APPLICATIONS.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE DEMAND FOR WHOLE HOUSE RENTALS, UH, KINGS CREEK.
WE KNOW THAT'S A TOURIST COMMUNITY THAT HAS, UH, 68, UM, UM, ADS ON AIRBNB ALONE, 68, JUST IN KINGS CREEK.
NOW THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR A WHOLE HOUSE RENTAL.
I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF THEM IN TOURIST COMMUNITIES.
AND, UM, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE SO POPULAR IS BECAUSE FOR OWNERS, COMMERCIAL INVESTORS IS BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE UP TO FOUR TIMES THE REVENUE IN A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAN THEY CAN WITH A LONG-TERM RENTAL, THE LONGTERM RENTAL BEING PEOPLE WHO WORK AND LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THE QUESTION IS, UM, WHY WOULD WE, WHY WOULD WE ALLOW ANY, WHY WOULD WE ALLOW ONE? HOW MANY IS TOO MANY? WHEN DOES IT START TO CHANGE THE COMMUNITY? AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEFINED.
AND UNTIL IT'S DEFINED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DENY ONE OR APPROVE ANOTHER BECAUSE THERE'S NO BASIS FOR THE DECISION AND ANY DENIAL WOULD BE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.
SO I ASK YOU TO MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL, FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY, TO CLOSE THIS LOOPHOLE AND DENY THIS APPLICATION.
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MR. HOWELL, BASED TO WORK AGAIN.I LIVE AT 1 0 4 HORSESHOE DRIVE, AND I POST THIS APPLICATION, NOT YOU, BUT THE APPLICATION.
AND AS WAS STATED A MINUTE AGO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME AGO OVER A YEAR AGO, THIS BODY SAID WE NEED GUIDELINES.
WE NEED SOMETHING TO BASE OUR DECISIONS ON TO GIVE US SOME POINT OF DEPARTURE.
THEY'RE COMING, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE YET.
SO MAKING A LOT OF DECISIONS, UH, WITHOUT THEM, WHEN YOU'VE CLEARLY STATED, THEY'RE NECESSARY, I THINK IS, IS A RECIPE FOR FAILURE.
BUT ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF OPERATING UNPERMITTED.
NOW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PUNISHMENT.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS YOU JUST PAY YOUR TAXES AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.
AND SO THE QUESTION BECOMES IS WHY WOULD YOU START OUT THE WAY THE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO DO WHAT'S TO MAKE THAT INCENTIVIZED SO THAT PEOPLE WILL DO THAT.
I MEAN, IF YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT FOR 10 MONTHS OR A YEAR AND NOT GET CAUGHT, RIGHT? AND WE'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF THEM WHO HAVE, AND THEN THEY GOT CAUGHT AND THEY EITHER PUT IT ASIDE OR DIDN'T DO IT.
SO THE QUESTION BECOMES IS WHEN ARE WE GOING TO TIE THIS WHOLE PROCESS TOGETHER? NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A SITUATION HERE AND I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, FORTHRIGHT ABOUT THIS AND THE TAXES WE PAID AND ALL THE REST OF THAT BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S COME FROM THIS.
THERE'S A SHORT LITTLE GAP, AND NOW WE APPROVE IT.
AND OFF WE GO, WHERE'S THE INCENTIVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY OUGHT TO BE WITHHOLDING OF ANY APPLICATION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE TAXES AND FEES HAVE BEEN PAID COUNTY FOR THE PRIOR OPERATION.
AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT'D BE TIED WITH THE TREASURY NOTICE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN PAID.
THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU OPERATED FOR 10 MONTHS OR A YEAR, I SAY YOU OUGHT TO BE, IT OUGHT TO BE WITH HELP, OR AT LEAST THAT LONG BEFORE THEY CAN APPLY, JUST TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
SO THIS IS REALLY MORE ABOUT GETTING THE COUNTY'S POLICIES IN ALIGNMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICIES ARE SOMETHING THAT WILL INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THEM, NOT ABOUT PUNISHMENT, BUT ABOUT A QUALITY APPROACH TO A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
IF YOU, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, GOOD EVENING SUPERVISORS.
AND IN CASE OF COURSE I CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GOOD EVENING.
AND IN CASE I FORGET AT THE END, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND BEST WISHES FOR THE NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.
I AM ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION.
IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME, I'M DIANE HOWELL AND I LIVE AT 1 0 4 HORSESHOE.
I'M ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION FOR A NUMBER OF THE REASONS STATED TONIGHT.
UM, I TOO OFTEN HEAR THAT THESE ARE GOOD APPLICATIONS WHEN IN FACT THEY HAVE BEEN UNPERMITTED OPERATIONS AND THEN THEY ARRIVE HERE OR AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OF COURSE AT FIRST AND SMOOTHLY, SAIL THROUGH THE HEARING.
AND, UM, THEY'VE JUST NOT FOLLOWED THE PROTOCOLS.
AND PERHAPS IF WE'RE HEARING THIS SO MUCH, THEN WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT IS IT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO BETTER INFORM CITIZENS OF THIS PROCESS? I DON'T KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEEN STATED BEFORE AND I HOLD TO IT THAT THIS BOARD YOU ARE STEWARDS OF THE LAND.
AND I DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS GOING ONCE GOING TWICE GONE? ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I THINK SOME COMMENTS ABOUT A FEW INTERESTING POINTS.
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UM, AND CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE AND MORE ABOUT THIS, YOUR, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT GUIDELINES AND STUFF.UH, WE DID ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, WE SPONSORED, UH, FOR THEM TO, UH, COME BACK WITH US, GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE IN THE END, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE VARIATIONS, UM, AND WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED, WE FOUND THAT IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T SUBSTANTIAL TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY APPLY THEM.
UH, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT THE END OF THAT CAUSE, UH, UH, WE COULD PROBABLY WORK STUFF OUT, BUT, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE HERE, UH, OF GETTING, TRYING TO GET AS RIGHT AS YOU CAN'T GET AN, A BALANCE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE, UH, I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THIS AND IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT TO CONTROL A PROPERTY, BUY IT.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT, YOU WANT TO CONTROL YOU BUY IT.
IT'S, UH, I'M VERY KIND OF, UM, UH, REALLY NOT, UH, UM, IN A, UH, OF A MINDSET WHERE I COULD SIT HERE UNDER A PILE OF RULES UNTIL A PERSON WANTS TO DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.
I TRY TO, I TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT.
SO THE INDIVIDUALS OWNED THE PROPERTY, UM, AND, AND, AND WE TRY TO LET, WE'D LIKE TO LET THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY OWNERS DO PRETTY MUCH AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITHIN LIMITATIONS.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT ON YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO PRETTY MUCH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF.
UM, SO ONLY YOUR PROPERTY, UH, WE WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO DO THAT, BUT THERE IS A BALANCE, UM, YOU CARE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
WE, WE, UH, THE QUESTION WAS, WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S ENOUGH? WELL, I'LL KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, WHEN I GET TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD, EACH ONE OF US HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL'S OPINION ON STUFF, BUT WHEN YOU REACH A POINT, I'LL KNOW WHEN I REACHED A POINT, OKAY, NOW IS THAT 2, 3, 5, 20 30? I DON'T KNOW YET.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE REALLY RELIED ON ON THESE KIND OF APPLICATIONS IS FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
UH IT'S AND WE HAVE TURNED THEM DOWN.
WE, UH, WE HAD ONE, I THINK IN QUEENS LAKE THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A, JUST A NIGHTMARE.
AND IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE A PERSON WAS DOING THIS AND HAD NOT APPLIED, BUT THEY, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RENTING, IT WERE MAKING NOISE TO RUDE, ERASING THEM DOWN, THEY'RE PARKING ON HIS GRASS.
THEY WERE DOING, THEY WERE JUST ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORST THING YOU WANTED.
AND SO WE SHUT IT DOWN AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A, IT DID NOT HAVE AN, UH, IN, IN RESIDENT TO A PERSON, THEY HAD A MANAGER THAT LIVED, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES AWAY COULD RUN OVER AND DO STUFF.
SO THERE'S EACH ONE OF THESE CASES OVER TIME.
UH, WE'VE HAD THEM COME UP BEFORE THIS BOARD AND THE NEIGHBORS TALK TO EACH OF THE SUPERVISORS TO A POINT WHERE WE KNEW THAT SAME WASN'T GOING TO FLY.
THE NEIGHBORS KNEW THE THING WASN'T GONNA FLY AND THEY WITHDREW THE APPLICATION.
SO THERE'S A, WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON HOW THIS WORKS.
UM, BUT IN THE END, IT'S OUR JUDGMENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE, AND ARE THERE RULES? YES, ABSOLUTELY RULES EXIST TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE APPLYING THESE RULES RIGHT NOW.
THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS RULE.
UM, AND, AND TO ME IS SOMETHING ELSE FOR IMPORTANT, OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UM, MAYBE UNLIKE A BIG CITY, LIKE NEW YORK OR CHICAGO OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE MORE PERMISSIVE IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TO PENALIZE PEOPLE.
UH, IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE DO ON CHARGING INTEREST RATES ON, OH, YOU KNOW, I SUBMITTED A BILL, BUT I LEFT THE NUMBER OFF ON THE CARD NUMBER AND THEY REJECTED IT AND THEY WANTED A $35 CHARGE AND THAT, WHAT DO WE DO? WE, WE, WE, WE PASS A RULE THAT WAVES OFF THAT STUFF.
UM, AND WE LIKE TO BELIEVE IN KIND OF THE, THAT PEOPLE DON'T INTENTIONALLY TRY TO GO OUT AND BREAK THE RULES, BUT, AND, AND WE INVESTIGATE.
UM, AND IN THE END, UM, WE JUST, WE JUST CLEAN UP THE MESS AND THEN, AND THEN WE GET EVERYBODY ON THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT, UH, PAGE.
SO ANYWAY, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND, I HEARD A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT TO ME IS THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST.
AND IF I, IF I MAY, I CAN SAY DITTO TO WHAT TOM HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WE TAKE IT, A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WE LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE MORE IMPORTANT PEOPLE TO HAVE INPUT INTO WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE SOMETHING.
WE, WE LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.
SO, AND, AND WE ARE PERMISSIVE BECAUSE YOUR COUNTY IS A FAMILY AND YOU NEED TO LET PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT UPSET PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOUSE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND YES, I HAVE NOTICED PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT THAT, WELL, PEOPLE TRY TO SLIDE BY.
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HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY REALLY DIDN'T KNOW THE RULES AND GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.THEY'RE NOT COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS A COMMERCIAL EFFORT, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M THINKING IF YOU OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY, A HOUSE, AND YOU ALREADY IN THAT HOUSE, THAT'S COMMERCIAL TOO.
DOES IT MATTER WHETHER IT'S RENTED FOR THREE DAYS, 10 DAYS OR TWO YEARS? IT'S THAT, THAT IS A FORM OF, TO ME, I CONSIDER THAT A COMMERCIAL VENTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MAKING A PROFIT ON IT.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE, IF YOU WILL.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO WITH YOUR FAMILY.
UH, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT, YOU HAVE TO GIVE AND TAKE.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I'M AN OPTIMIST, NOT A PESSIMIST.
SO I DON'T LOOK FOR THE BAD PARTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY HAPPEN HAPPENED, WHAT IFS, WHAT IFS I TRUST PEOPLE.
AND I THINK WE'RE FORTUNATE HERE IN YORK COUNTY THAT WE HAVE NOT RUN INTO ANY PROBLEMS ALONG THESE LINES.
I, I DON'T RECALL THE 20, SOME ODD YEARS, UH, ANY REAL PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH RENTAL PROPERTY OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, UH, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO GET ALONG AND WE DON'T TRY TO TELL SOMEBODY ELSE WHAT TO DO IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE DON'T LIVE THERE, IT'S EVERYBODY HAS TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES.
WE SIT HERE THOUGH, AND WE LISTENED TO EACH PERSON BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT THAT WE GET.
WE, IT BROADENS OUR OUTLOOK, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT MAKES IT SPANK.
AND WE HAVE TO BE A THINKING PERSON, NOT JUST AN ACTIVE PERSON.
THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS, MR. RON, REAL QUICK.
SO I'LL LET GO OF THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHTS AS A PROPERTY OWNER, MYSELF, I MAKE THE LARGEST INVESTMENT THAN I WILL EVER IN MY LIFE AND BUY A PROPERTY.
AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THAT PROPERTY, THE BEST THAT I CAN WITHOUT IMPOSING UPON MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO I AGREE WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS AND ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUALLY DEVELOP THE RULES AND GUIDELINES AND THE EXPECTATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, A GOOD FIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL VERSUS NOT.
UH, PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT LOOKING AT THIS MYSELF AND, AND THE QUESTION I WROTE, I BROUGHT UP TONIGHT ABOUT RESIDENCY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT THE HOME, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RESIDENT IN THE HOME, OR IN THIS CASE NEXT DOOR BEING AN HOUR DOWN THE ROAD, OR EVEN OUT OF STATE TRYING TO MANAGE THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY OR, OR YOUR COUNTY.
I THINK WE CAN DO THINGS WE COULD DO BETTER THERE.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD SET THAT EXPECTATION.
SO, UM, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OVER TIME.
AND I THINK THEY'LL GET BETTER OVER TIME AS WE LOOK INTO MORE AND MORE OF THESE, THEY'RE ALSO UNIQUE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC TO THINK WE CAN SET ONE SET OF RULES AND THAT APPLIES TO EVERYTHING.
I'M NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION IN ANY CASES.
SO I WANT TO AVOID THAT, BUT I ALSO STILL WANT TO SET SOME EXPECTATIONS.
AND, AND, UM, IT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, THE EXPECTATIONS I HAVE OR LARGELY MET.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE HOMEOWNERS COMING OUT WITH THE PROPERTIES, COME OUT AT NIGHT, SHARE SOME NEWS, SOME INFORMATION I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
I WAS UP MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF SPRINGFIELD ROAD, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THERE AND, UH, PUT EYES ON YOUR PROPERTY THERE.
ASTRO ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS OUT WALKING ROLLED DOWN THE WINDOW, SPOKE TO THEM.
UH, THEY WERE, THEY KNEW WHO YOU WERE.
IT WAS IN ALREADY BEING USED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, IN THE PAST.
AND, UH, NOBODY REALLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.
UM, AS FAR AS SOME OF THESE THAT WE SEE, THIS IS PROBABLY HE'S ON ONE SIDE, HIS MOM'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I MEAN, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD GET A BETTER FIT.
HOWEVER, I DO AGREE WITH, UH, THE FOLKS WHO TALKED EARLIER, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE, A BETTER GUIDELINE FOR THIS PROCESS.
AND AS WE DO THIS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WE ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THAT OF WHERE YOU LIVE, WHERE YOU'RE RAISING A FAMILY TO MORE OF A COMMERCIAL WHERE YOU HAVE TRANSIENT FOLKS COMING THROUGH.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BOTHERED ME.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF YOU LIVE, WHERE YOU LIVE AND YOU WORK WHERE YOU WORK.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.
I THINK YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW I'M GOING
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TO VOTE ON THIS.HOWEVER, UH, I WANT TO SAY, UH, MR. BOOTH, UH, YOUR NEIGHBORS WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF YOU.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, IF IT PASSES TONIGHT, I THINK YOU'LL DO A WONDERFUL JOB IN RUNNING IT.
BUT, UH, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS TO CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS FROM PLACES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES TO A COMMERCIAL ZONE.
SO, ANYWAY, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE OUR 21 DASH 1 43, PLEASE.
MADAM CLERK, EMOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLE IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 21, 1 43 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MRS. NOLE.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.FIRST ONE, I ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE A STREET ACCEPTANCE.
WHITAKER'S MILL NUMBER THREE STREET ACCEPTANCE, OSMO LANDING.
NUMBER FOUR IS A PURCHASE AUTHORIZATION FOR SOME AMBULANCES.
NUMBER FIVE IS THE CHILLER REPLACEMENTS FOR THE YORK COURTHOUSE.
NUMBER SIX IS THE MOTOROLA RADIO SYSTEM.
NUMBER SEVEN IS PERSONNEL POLICY PROCEDURE MANUAL.
NUMBER EIGHT IS COMMENDING RETIRING EMPLOYEE, MR. HAHN THAN HAN.
AND THE NUMBER NINE IS THE COMMITTEE AND RETIRING EMPLOYEE.
PATRICIA ALDERMAN, ANYONE WANT MORE INFORMATION? OR, UH, I SEE MR. HALL'S HERE.
I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT NUMBER SIX, MR. HAWKEY COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ABOUT, UH, THE MOTOROLA SYSTEM AND NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT IS A CONTINUATION FROM A PROJECT THAT WAS STARTED IN 2003, IN 2003, WE PARTNERED WITH JAMES CITY COUNTY TO BUILD A REGIONAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
AND THE GOAL WAS TO INCREASE SERVICES AND SAVE MONEY.
AND ABOUT FIVE YEARS LATER, WE DID THE SAME WITH GLOUCESTER, BROUGHT THEM INTO OUR CONSORTIUM.
SO OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS OVER 20 YEARS OLD, AND WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY KEEP THIS UP AND OPERATIONAL FOR ANOTHER 10 PLUS YEARS BY DOING THIS LIFE CYCLE PROJECT.
SO THIS WAS FORECAST FIVE YEARS AGO THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO THE BOARD WITH A NEW SET OF, UH, WHAT'S NEXT IN THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE WORKED, UH, FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF ON THIS AND WORKING WITH MR. MORGAN AND, UH, MR. STEELE WITH GLOUCESTER COUNTY AND MR. STEVENS WITH, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UH, THIS IS THE LAST LEG OF THE THREE-LEGGED STOOL.
WE'VE BEEN TO THE OTHER TWO BOARDS AND THEY'VE APPROVED IT.
AND, UM, THIS IS WHAT'S NEXT FOR US IN TECHNOLOGY.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SUMMARIZE THE, BY SAYING, UH, WE STARTED IN 2003 BUILDING A NETWORK, UH, BELIEVING THAT THROUGH IT BEEN MANY FOLKS THAT WOULD COME JOIN THE NETWORK, AND THAT CONTINUES TODAY.
AND WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE SERVICES AND SAVE MONEY.
THE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL THAT A FIREFIGHTER OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ON THEIR, UH, HIP.
IS THERE A PORTABLE RADIO AND THIS SYSTEM, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE UPGRADING KEEPS THAT SYSTEM WORKING JUST AS FRESH TODAY AS IT DID IN 2003.
OH, SO WAS MR. BELLAMY THERE'S PURCHASE OF AMBULANCE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MR. HALL HAUL THIS, THIS ISN'T A REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM.
THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM AND SOME MODERNIZATION IT'S.
SO IT'S NO EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM WHERE BASICALLY UPGRADING OLDER ANTIQUATED TECHNOLOGY WITH NEW.
SO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION TOWERS, UH, THESE ARE THE BASE STATIONS, THE RADIOS, THE MICROWAVE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONNECTS THEM ALL TOGETHER.
A LOT OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS 15 PLUS YEARS OF AGE AND IS OBSOLETE AND NO LONGER SUPPORTED WITH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.
SO THIS HAS TAKEN US INTO THE NEXT GENERATION.
WHAT IS IT? W WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE OLD HARDWARE GOING OUT? IS THERE, IS THERE A MARKET FOR THAT, THEN WE GET TO TAKE IT BACK TO, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO MARKET.
IT'S A 20, YOU KNOW, 15 TO 20 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY AND EVEN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES, AREN'T USING IT ANY LONGER.
UH, WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THIS BEFORE WE START BUYING PARTS OFF OF EBAY.
SO, UH, PRETTY MUCH WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD FUND AND WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD CONTRACT THAT KEEPS IT UP AND, AND IT'S TIME TO REPLACE IT.
THANK YOU, MR. BELLAMY, UH, COULD YOU EXPAND ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR OF THE PURCHASE OF AMBULANCES, AND I'LL SEE, I'LL SEE THE FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF CHIEF, IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND ADDRESS
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THAT, PLEASE.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS IS A PURCHASE OF TWO AMBULANCES.
ONE OF WHICH, UH, KINDA ADMINISTRATOR MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING BE PURCHASED WITH AQUA FUNDS AND IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE A STATIONED OR HOUSED OUT OF THE NEW FIRE STATION SEVEN, UH, ON MORTON ROAD.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, YOU MAY RECALL OUR LAST MEETING.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE DELIVERY TIME FOR, UH, UNITS NOWADAYS.
IT'S GONE FROM AN AVERAGE DELIVERY TIME OF SIX TO NINE MONTHS FOR AN AMBULANCE TO NOW.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INDICATING 18 TO 19 MONTHS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE REPLACING ONE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED JUST TO GET AHEAD OF THAT QUEUE.
AND IT DOES ALSO AVOID, UH, A COST INCREASE THAT WE ANTICIPATE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
SO ONE IS ANTICIPATED, GO TO THE NEW STATION.
THE SECOND ONE, IS THAT A REPLACEMENT? WE ARGUMENT WILL BE A REPLACEMENT REPLACING AN OLDER ONE.
THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR. BELLAMY, UM, OPERA FUNDS PAYING FOR ONE.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
WE LOOKED AT LAST MEETING, RIGHT? IS YOUR ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT MR. MORGAN DESCRIBED TO YOU, UH, AT YOUR LAST MEETING THAT THE SECOND, UH, AMBULANCE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OUT OF THE REGULAR CIP.
ANY, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH CONSENT AGENDA? MADAM CLERK, MR. JEFFERS MOVED THE CONSENT.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. ROWAN.
WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS AND WE DO HAVE CLOSED MEETING TO
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DEAL WITH APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.SO MISS KNOLL, TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11 80, 1 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I MOVED AT THE BORDER SUPERVISORS, CONVENIENT, CLOSE MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.