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[Call to Order]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 7TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.

THIS IS A WORK SESSION MEETING AND WE'LL FOLLOW THE WORK SESSION FORMAT.

MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLE EXCUSED, MS. KNOLL IS REPRESENTING THE COUNTY AT AN EVENT UP AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION THIS EVENING.

UH, MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

[A . Presentation of the FY 2021 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report. ]

THIS TIME.

WE'D LIKE TO MOVE INTO OUR PRESENTATION OF THE 2021 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON DIRECTOR OWENS IF SHE COME UP HERE.

GOOD EVENING TONIGHT.

UM, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO HAVE A ANNUAL AUDIT OF OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

AND SO TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US LAURA HARDEN FROM CHERRY BECKER TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD ON OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

BUT, UM, FIRST I DO WANT TO THANK, UM, CAROLYN AND HER STAFF AND THE ACCOUNTING AND REPORTING DIVISION OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND GETTING THIS DONE.

THANKS WELL, GOOD EVENING.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE JUNE 30TH, 2021 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE COUNTY OF YORK.

SO FIRST I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE WERE ENGAGED.

YOU.

UH, WE WERE ENGAGED TO PROVIDE AN AUDIT OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, INCLUDING THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE MARQUEE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL ACTIVITY FUNDS, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE.

THE AUDIT IS A VERY LONG PROCESS.

WE START WITH OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR INTERIM FIELD WORK IN THE SUMMERTIME WHERE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF OUR PLANNING, OUR STATE COMPLIANCE TESTING, AS WELL AS STARTING OUR SINGLE AUDIT TESTING.

AND THEN WE MOVE INTO WHAT WE CALL OUR FINAL FIELD WORK IN THE FALL.

AND IN THAT PART, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TESTING THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN THAT ANNUAL, COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.

WE DID ISSUE OUR REPORT ON NOVEMBER 29TH, 2021.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO PROVIDE AN AUDIT OF THE COUNTY'S MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS AS REQUIRED BY THE UNIFORM GRANT GUIDANCE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE SINGLE AUDIT.

WE ALSO PERFORM AN AUDIT OF THE COUNTY'S COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS UNDER GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS AND THE AUDITOR OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS SPECIFICATIONS FOR AUDITS OF COUNTIES, CITIES, AND TOWNS.

WE ALSO PROVIDE PROCEDURES REQUIRED BY THE COMMONWEALTH RELATED TO THE COMPARATIVE REPORT, TRANSMITTAL FORMS IN ACCORDANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNIFORM FINANCIAL REPORTING MANUAL, AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INTERNAL CONTROL OVER COMPLIANCE WITH THE VIRGINIA SHERIFF'S ACCOUNTING MANUAL.

AND THEN WE PROVIDE AN EXAMINATION, UM, ENGAGEMENT OVER THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, CENSUS DATA.

SO NOW TO THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT, OUR OPINION ON THE 2021 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WERE UNMODIFIED, UM, THAT IS THE BEST OPINION THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE AS A RESULT OF YOUR AUDIT.

IN ADDITION, WE RE, UH, WE NOTED NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES AND INTERNAL CONTROL OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED TO YOU.

IF ANYTHING DID COME TO OUR ATTENTION DURING THE AUDIT THAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE EITHER A MATERIAL WEAKNESS OR A SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCY IN INTERNAL CONTROL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REPORT TO YOU HERE TO DATE.

NOTHING CAME TO OUR ATTENTION WHERE MANAGEMENT HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH LAWS OR REGULATIONS THAT COULD HAVE A MATERIAL EFFECT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF DEBT AGREEMENTS.

UM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE COUNTY DID EXPEND ARPA FUNDING DURING THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AND AS A RESULT, WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE, UH, LOCAL, THE COMPLIANCE

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SUPPLEMENT FOR THAT TO COME OUT.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO QUITE FINISH OUR SINGLE AUDIT TESTING.

AND SO THAT REPORT WILL COME AT A LATER DATE, AS SOON AS THAT COMPLIANCE SUPPLEMENT HAS BEEN ISSUED.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE JUST A FEW OTHER REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS.

UM, DURING THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE COUNTY DID IMPLEMENT GATSBY STATEMENT NUMBER 84 FOR FIDUCIARY ACTIVITIES.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DID IS IT CHANGED THE REPORTING OF FIDUCIARY ACTIVITIES.

UM, THE COUNTY HAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES.

THEY HAVE THEIR OPEP TRUST FUND, AS WELL AS SOME CUSTODIAL FUNDS.

UM, AND THEN AS YOU SEE, THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS REPORTED IN THE COUNTIES ACT FOR, THEY HAD TO MOVE THEIR SCHOOL ACTIVITY FUNDS INTO THEIR MAIN FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED AS AN AGENCY FUND, BUT THAT IS NOW REPORTED AS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION BECAUSE OF ITS ADMINISTRATIVE INVOLVEMENT.

THERE WERE NO OTHER ACCOUNTING POLICIES OR PRACTICES CHANGED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

UM, ALSO IN THE, UH, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE JUDGEMENTS AND ACCOUNTING ESTIMATES, MEANING THAT THOSE NUMBERS CAN BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO MAKING THOSE ESTIMATES.

THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TO THE COUNTY ARE THE ALLOWANCE FOR DOUBTFUL ACCOUNTS, ACTUARILY, COMPUTER LIABILITIES, LIKE OPEB AND PENSION AND DEPRECIATION EXPENSE.

WE HAD NO CORRECTED OR PROPOSED UNCORRECTED ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT REGARDING ANY KIND OF ACCOUNTING OR AUDITING ISSUES.

WE ENCOUNTERED NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTIES IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT.

WE'RE NOT AWARE THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD ANY KIND OF CONSULTATIONS WITH OTHER ACCOUNTANTS.

WE DID PROVIDE A MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATION LETTER TO THE COUNTY TO HAVE SIGNED AT ISSUANCE OF THE AUDIT OPINION.

WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY RELATIONSHIP THAT WE BELIEVE BASED ON AUTHORITY, AUTHORITATIVE GUIDANCE WOULD IMPAIR OUR ATTENDANCE INDEPENDENCE TO GIVE YOU A, UM, OUR AUDIT OPINION.

THE LAST THING WE'LL DO, UH, GO OVER IS, UM, WE'VE INCLUDED A FEW FUTURE ACCOUNTING AND REPORTING CHANGES.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT, UH, CHANGE.

AND THAT SCARES ME STATEMENT NUMBER 87, THE LEAST STANDARD.

WHAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO DO IS BRING ON ANYTHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED AS AN OPERATING LEASE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE TREATED AS A CAPITAL LEASE, HAVING AN ASSET AND A CORRESPONDING LIABILITY ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.

AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY STARTED TO COMPILE THOSE LEASES.

IT IS A VERY LENGTHY AND TIME CONSUMING PROCESS FOR THEM.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM FOR YEARS NOW TO GET, UH, AS THEY GET PREPARED FOR IMPLEMENTING THE STANDARD.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THERESA AND CAROLINE FOR ALL THEIR ASSISTANCE AND PERFORMING THE AUDIT.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE, MR. RAMBO, ANY QUESTIONS MR. RON, REAL QUICK, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT DID YOU FIND DURING THIS AUDIT FOR COUNTIES? A KIND OF PRACTICES? WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, THE COUNTY HAS A PRETTY WELL, UM, SET WAY OF CLOSING OUT THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

SO WHEN WE GET THE TRIAL BALANCES FROM THEM AND THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THEY COME IN A PRETTY, IN A FAIRLY CLEAN FORMAT WITH FEW QUESTIONS, OR, I MEAN, WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE QUESTIONS AS PART OF THE AUDIT, BUT WE DON'T TYPICALLY FIND ANY ISSUES WITH THE REPORTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, LAURA HARDEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALL

[1. Capital Improvement Plan]

RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, I'M GOING TO CALL ON MR. MORGAN FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, WELL HEATHER'S PULLING THAT UP.

LET ME JUST ADD MY THANKS TO, UH, THERESA AND CAROLYN AND HER TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

THERE'S JUST A TON OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THE AUDIT EVERY YEAR AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO AROUND HERE.

AND I CONSIDER THIS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PRESENTATIONS THAT I GIVE TO THE BOARD.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A FEW, UM, OVERVIEW COMMENTS, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO MY SLIDE PRESENTATION.

UM, IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL AND YOU ALL CAN OBVIOUSLY INTERRUPT AT ANY POINT.

UH, BUT THEY'LL ALSO BE SOME LOGICAL BREAK POINTS.

IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THOSE POINTS.

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SO, UH, JUST AS A FEW REMINDERS, UM, THE COUNTY IS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY RECOVERING FROM A ONE-YEAR CIP FREEZE THAT WE IMPOSED, UH, WHEN THE PANDEMIC RECESSION, UH, LOOKED TO BE PRETTY SEVERE.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT THIS BODY HAD ALREADY AGREED TO ARE IN THE WORKS SIMPLY GOT DELAYED A YEAR BECAUSE OF THAT THE, UH, ARPA-E FUNDS AND THE CARES ACT FUNDS.

THE FEDERAL AID THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS DEFINITELY HELPED US GET BACK ON TRACK WITH WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, UM, BOTH DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY BY IMPROVING OUR FINANCIAL POSITION AND OUR ABILITY TO USE CASH CAPITAL.

THE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE BOARD HAD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, PRETTY MUCH RESOLVED THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING WITH MAJOR FACILITIES.

UH, THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR, UH, REALLY WAS NOT ASKED BY ME TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF NEW PROJECTS.

WE BASICALLY SAID WE GOT A GAME PLAN FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS, MAJOR PROJECTS AND MAJOR INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE ALL SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND SO THE FIRST TASK OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO UPDATE THE COST ESTIMATES AND THE TIMING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT A SIX YEAR PLAN JUST BY ITS NATURE IS EVERY YEAR STUFF HAPPENS, WHETHER THE COST GO UP, SOMETHING IS DELAYED, SOMETHING HAS SPED UP.

SO A LARGE PART OF WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN MY PRESENTATION ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN IN SOME CASES, 2, 3, 4 TIMES WITH NEW TIME ESTIMATES AND THE COST ESTIMATES.

UH, YOU WILL SEE IN DETAIL THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR DEBT POLICIES.

UH, AND IMPORTANTLY, TONIGHT I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROPOSED USES OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR ARPA FUNDS RECALL IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND WRITTEN MATERIAL.

UM, IT HAS BEEN MY RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT WE DEPLOY ABOUT 80% OF THE 13.4 MILLION OF ONE-TIME ARPA FUNDS.

UH, FOR ONE TIME THINGS THAT BASICALLY, UH, STRENGTHEN OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL THOSE OUT IN MY PRESENTATION HERE MOMENTARILY.

UH, SO AGAIN, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TYPICALLY, UH, APPROVES THE CIT, UH, AS PART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET.

SO AS PRACTICAL MATTER, THE BOARD HAS SEVERAL MONTHS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE DETAILS, UH, AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THE SCHOOL SIDE.

I DO PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS FOR THE SCHOOL CIP.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INTERNAL PROCESS.

SO TO SOME DEGREE, SOME OF THOSE DETAILS WILL CHANGE.

IT WILL BE FOLDED INTO RCIP, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THAT COMES OUT AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IN MARCH.

AND, UM, BUT WHILE YOU ALL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS, THE, THE, THE HEAVY LIFT FROM THE STAFF ON THE CIP IS BASICALLY REFLECTED IN WHAT I'M PRESENTING TONIGHT.

AND I DID WANT TO THANK OUR, ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR CIP COMMITTEE AND PARTICULARLY, UH, TIM KRAUSE.

WHO'S CHAIRED OUR COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND DOES A GREAT JOB WITH THE, UH, PARTICULARLY THE NARRATIVE EXPLANATIONS.

AND, UH, I WANT TO CALL OUT, UH, GREG ROULETTE, WHO'S DONE A LOT OF THE, UH, THE HARD NUMBERS TO BACK UP THE COMMITTEE'S WORK.

AND GREG, ESPECIALLY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

HIS DAUGHTER'S GOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, THE YORK TOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND WE WILL NOT BE OFFENDED WHEN YOU GET UP AND LEAVE, CAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE LATE.

SO I'M GOING TO, UH, IN YOUR WRITTEN MATERIAL AND PART OF THIS IS SOURCES POSTED ON OUR WEBSITES AS SOME OF THIS IS FOR, UH, CITIZENS AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT, UH, HAVE HEARD THIS AS MANY TIMES AS YOU ALL HAVE.

SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF MOVE TO THE, WHAT I CONSIDER THE, UH, THE SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION.

SO, FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, AS WE HAVE DONE, UH, EVERY YEAR IS WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR, UH, GOAL OF MANAGING OUR DEBT PROPERLY.

UH, AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, CASH CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH THE OPERATING BUDGET, UH, THROUGH YEAR END SURPLUSES, ONE AVAILABLE, UH, USE OF PREVIOUS APPROPRIATED RESERVES WHEN NECESSARY.

AND WE'RE INCREASINGLY TRYING TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING.

WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL NATURE IN THIS PLAN, EVEN IF THE MONEY COMES FROM, UH, A NON-TRADITIONAL SOURCE, LIKE A GRANT.

UM, AND SO, UH, I'LL POINT OUT A FEW OF THE PLACES WHERE WE SHOW THAT.

AND THEN AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,

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UH, THE ARPA SAVINGS, UH, THE WAY THE LAW WAS WRITTEN, THE TERM SAVINGS IS KIND OF A TECHNICALITY, BUT WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS THE ARPA CASH.

SO LET'S DRILL DOWN ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UM, I SAID 13.4, APPARENTLY IT WAS 13.3.

THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THIS LAST ROUND OF, UM, FEDERAL FUNDS? UH, AGAIN, UH, THE IDEA OF USING ABOUT 80% OF THAT FOR ONE-TIME CAPITAL IS REFLECTED IN THIS PLAN.

INCLUSIVE OF THAT IN MY RECOMMENDATION IS ABOUT 3 MILLION OF THE 11 MILLION OVERALL THAT WE PROPOSE TO BE DEPLOYED THROUGH THE CIP, UH, WOULD GO FOR SOME SPECIALIZED SCHOOL PROJECTS.

AND I WILL, UH, ALSO DISCUSS THOSE IDEAS HERE IN A MINUTE, AND THEN, UH, THE 8 MILLION, UH, WHICH WILL YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A SECOND ON, UM, THE COUNTY SIDE.

SO APOLOGIZE FOR THE SIZE OF THOSE.

UH, SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, UH, THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC, UH, IDEAS WE ARE SUGGESTING FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE 8 MILLION ARPA FUNDS ON YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE 3 MILLION AND 8 MILLION IS, UM, THAT, THAT IS GOING INTO THE, THE, UH, UH, 13.3, OR IS THAT, THAT 11 OF THE 13.3 REPRESENTS THE 80% THAT WERE SUGGESTING SHE'D GO TO THE CIP.

IS THAT 3 MILLION, 10 SCHOOLS? THREE, YEAH, THREE OF THE 11, SO EIGHT TO THE COUNTY AND THREE TO THE SCHOOLS, RIGHT? SO, UH, ONE OF THESE ITEMS, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CAPTURE IN THIS DOCUMENT, EVEN THOUGH YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION ON IT, THAT'S THE 1.5 MILLION, UH, DARK FIBER INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION ON.

UM, THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ON THE COUNTY SIDE THAT WE WOULD SHOW AS A REVISED INVESTMENT IN, UH, THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM IS $525,000 FOR THE PURCHASE OF AN ADDITIONAL AMBULANCE.

AND THE REASON WE WANT TO DO THAT IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, THERE'S A REALLY LENGTHY DELAY ON ORDERING AN AMBULANCE, AND THIS WOULD BE AN AMBULANCE THAT WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO HAVE READY ABOUT THE TIME FIRE STATION SEVEN OPENS ON MORTON ROAD.

UH, THEN YOU SEE, UH, SOME OF THE 3 MILLION OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO SCHOOL, SPECIAL PROJECTS REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

THAT 1.2 NUMBER, I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE WE'LL OUT, I'LL DETAIL WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS TEAM THINK, UM, THESE FUNDS COULD BE PUT TO GOOD USE FOR NOW.

SO IS THIS THE FIRST TRAUNCH YOU'RE REFERRING TO HERE? IS THAT FOR THE FULL YEAH.

WHAT'D YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS OVER THE COURSE OF THE SIX YEAR PLAN, HOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE, YOU KNOW, THE 11 OF THE 13 MILLION THAT WE THINK SHOULD GO TO THE CIP.

OKAY.

UH, BUT WHAT'S NOT ON THIS PAGE IS, UM, THE, THE DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF THE SCHOOL ITEMS, WHICH I HAVE ON ANOTHER PAGE.

SO THE OTHER, THE NEXT THING THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS, UM, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION PRICES ARE GOING UP RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE GOT A MAJOR COMMITMENT FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING.

AND, UH, OUR BEST ESTIMATE IS THAT, UM, THE COST OF THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO GO UP THE OLD NUMBER AND THE CITP WAS 18 MILLION.

AND WE WERE PROPOSING TO PUT 2 MILLION OF THIS FEDERAL ARPA MONEY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.

SO IF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS COME IN HIGH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO BORROW MORE MONEY FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE'RE BOND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BOND.

SOME OF THE, UH, THE BULK OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE BORROWED MONEY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THE PROJECT OF THAT SCALE, THERE'S JUST REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT.

UH, THE NEXT ONE THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING WE HAVE SENT YOU SOME REPORTS ON THIS IS, UH, THE DA IS IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, DESIGNING AN UPGRADE OF THE, UH, WATER STREET GRILLE RIVERWALK FACILITY.

NOW RECALL THAT THE COUNTY OWNS THAT NOW 17 YEAR OLD RESTAURANT COMPLEX, AND IT, AND IT NEEDS A REFRESH.

AND SO WE WERE WORKING ON A CONCEPT WHERE, UH, THE COUNTY THROUGH THE EDA COMBINED WITH THE, THE TENANT OPERATOR WOULD JOINTLY INVEST IN A REFRESH OF THE FACILITY.

UH, CURRENTLY, UH, THERE'S AN ARCHITECT DESIGNING THE CONCEPT.

I'VE SHARED SOME OF THOSE DRAWINGS WITH YOU.

AND OUR IDEA IS, UH, RATHER THAN BORROWING ANY MONEY THAT WE WOULD PUT, UH, 2 MILLION OF OUR ARPA FUNDS TOWARD THIS PROJECT.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS IS THE SINGLE LARGEST DRAW ON THE WATERFRONT.

UH, WE OWN IT.

AND, UM, IT'S GOT TO BE REFRESHED

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ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT.

UM, SORT OF WITHOUT COMPETING WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS, YOU HAVE A BREAKOUT OF WHAT THAT 2 MILLION WILL GO FOR.

WELL, THE, THE TOTAL ESTIMATE OF THE PROJECT CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS STILL UNDER DESIGN COUNTING FURNITURE AND NEW KITCHEN EQUIPMENT, AND EVERYTHING IS ABOUT 4 MILLION.

UH, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE OWNER TENANT, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE OWNER TENANT WOULD MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THE OVERALL INVESTMENT, UH, EITHER IN SOME COMBINATION OF CASH AND, YOU KNOW, LARGER LEASE PAYMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S STILL TO BE NEGOTIATED, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA WOULD BE, THIS WOULD COVER THE LARGE OF THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THE DEAL.

YEAH, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE VERY FIRST OWNER OF THE, UH, OF THE BUSINESS THERE, WHEN HE, BY THE TIME HE LEFT, WE ENDED UP WITH SOME ISSUE OF BUYING NEW EQUIPMENT FOR THE KITCHENS AND EVERYTHING AT THAT TIME.

SO IS THAT EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED NOW, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, OWNER IS FINISHING OFF A NOTE ON THAT AND THAT GETS PAID OFF NEXT YEAR.

SO BY THE TIME THIS WOULD GO FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE PAID OFF AND, AND HE COULD PRESUMABLY CONTRIBUTE TO THIS NEW PROJECT.

DOES THIS INCLUDE A FACELIFT OF THE ENTRANCES AND A GREATER EMPHASIS ON WATERFRONT DINING, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN SUPER STRATEGIC IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? UH, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY.

UH, WE'VE GOT THAT IN THE MATERIAL WE SENT YOU ALL A MONTH OR SO AGO.

I CAN, I CAN RESEND IT IN THE MORNING.

HAPPY TO, SO ROUGHLY THE OWNER OPERATORS PUTTING IN 50% OF THESE COSTS, WELL, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THEM.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY 50%, BUT I WANT TO SAY A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE TOTAL COST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM, UM, IS REALLY PART OF OUR OVERALL FACILITIES PLAN.

UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THIS PIECE WITHOUT HOW THE, ALL THE OTHER CASES ARE RELATED, BUT AS WE ROOT OF A AND BUILD NEW THINGS AND NEW STAFF AROUND THE CURRENT LOCATION OF BUILDING SAFETY, WHICH WILL BE COMBINED WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING AND A ONE-STOP SHOP WILL BECOME, UH, VACANT.

AND OUR PLAN IS TO MOVE THE CONSOLIDATED, IT FUNCTION INTO THAT BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, THEY WILL BE OUT OF THE FINANCE BUILDING.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE ROOM IN THE FINANCE BUILDING TO DO THE RENOVATION THERE.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A SERIES OF MUSICAL CHAIRS AND DOING THE RENTING SPACE OVER AT THE POST OFFICE.

UH, WELL WE OWN THE BUILDING.

THEY RENT FROM US.

YES.

UH, BUT ULTIMATELY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE IN THERE ANYMORE.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SPREAD OUT IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS AND THE VISION WOULD BE TO CONSOLIDATE THEM.

AND WHAT IS NOW THE, UH, BUILDING SAFETY BUILDING, UM, WITH THIS RENOVATION, IS THIS, THIS PERSONNEL, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AS WELL? NOW THIS IS, THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION OF A RENOVATION.

AND AN ADDITION TO THAT BUILDING, IT'S NOT PERSONNEL YOU'RE SAYING WHO WOULD GO THERE.

ALL OF, UH, ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN IT, THE SERVER, AS YOU KNOW, UH, MR. ROWAN, UH, IS BASICALLY THERE'S TWO SERVER ROOMS, ONE IN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS.

AND ONE IN THE POST, THE GENERAL MIGRATION IS TOWARD THE LARGER PIECE OF THAT BEING IN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, WHERE WE HAVE A BETTER FACILITY AND THEY'LL NEED TO BE A BACKUP SOMEWHERE, UH, DR.

FRISCH AND MR. WYATT'S CURRENT VIEW IS BY THE TIME WE DO THIS, THE BACKUP WOULD BE IN THE CLOUD, AS OPPOSED TO IN THE BASEMENT OF THE POST OFFICE, THE, THE GRAND VISION IS, IS PART ON PREM AND PART IN THE CLOUD.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THE, UM, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES HAS A, UH, 20, SOME YEAR OLD MINIBUS THAT WE USE FOR A LOT OF PROGRAMS. AND, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A REASONABLE, MODEST INVESTMENT OF THESE FEDERAL FUNDS TO REPLACE THAT THE SECOND PART OF THE PROPOSED CONTRIBUTION TO THE SCHOOLS.

UH, AGAIN, I'LL SHOW YOU THE DETAIL IN A MINUTE SHOWS UP THERE AND , AND THEN WHEN YOU GO OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I KNOW THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THIS IN A CIP, AS YOU MOVE TO THE RIGHT, THINGS BECOME MORE FUZZY AND MORE OF LIKE A PLAN IN LESS PRECISE.

BUT WHAT I AM PROPOSING IS THAT WE SET ASIDE 1.5 MILLION

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OF ARPA MONEY FOR, UH, OUTDOOR PARKS AND REC FACILITY UPGRADES, TO BE DETERMINED IN THE FUTURE.

YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S A LONG LIST OF IDEAS OF WHAT THEY COULD BE, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE SOME OF THOSE WITH YOU.

UH, BUT THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT IS LET'S SET ASIDE SOME OF THIS MONEY.

AND AS THE SITUATION DEVELOPS, WE CAN SEE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU EXAMPLES FROM ONE INTO THE COUNTY OF VM, TO THE OTHER OF WHERE, UH, WE COULD PUT, UH, SOME DOLLARS INTO SOME OF OUR OUTDOOR FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WISELY.

SO BIG PICTURE, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE YOUR TOP ONE OR TWO THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO, WELL, ONE, THAT'S KIND OF MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, UM, AT THE MARQUEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SCHOOL SITE THAT'S PROFFERED THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE TITLE TO, AND THERE'S NO PLAN IN ANY TIME SOON TO BUILD A SCHOOL THERE.

AND SO YOU HAVE THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING BACK THERE THAT ALWAYS ASSUMED THE OUTDOOR RECREATION WAS GOING TO BE THE SCHOOL, RIGHT.

AND, UH, MUCH LIKE WE DID A KILL CREEK.

WE USE THE PROFIT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE FOR A PARK.

UM, SOME, SOME VERSION OF THAT WOULD BE ONE CANDIDATE.

NEW QUARTER PARK IS A GIGANTIC PARK WITH A TEENY TINY INVESTMENT IN IT.

THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER PLACE WHERE YOU COULD PUT THAT TO GOOD USE.

UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY PRELIMINARY IDEAS ABOUT LINEAR PARKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE, IN THE SOUTH COUNTY THAT THIS COULD TIE INTO, UH, THERE COULD BE REDUCED AT THE MAC THERE'S THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.

NO, NO IDEA WHERE YOU, WHERE YOUR MIND IS GOING WITH IT.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO, UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW ALL THAT ADDS UP AS WE ARE PROPOSING IT.

SO HERE, I WANT TO GO TO THE, WHAT THE SCHOOLS HAVE SUGGESTED THEY WOULD DO WITH THEIR 3 MILLION.

SO YOU SAW THE 3 MILLION IN AGGREGATE ON THE LAST SLIDE, THE NEXT TWO SLIDES SHOW THE PARTICULARS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, AND HIS TEAM'S IDEA FOR THIS FUND IS TO MAKE A BUNCH OF SMALL INVESTMENTS IN, IN SCHOOLS, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, IN THINGS THAT NEVER MAKE THE CUT IN THE NORMAL CIP, UM, THAT ARE PRIMARILY RECREATION ORIENTED AS YOU'LL SEE LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE ANNOYANCES, UH, AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO USE COUNTY ARBOR FUNDS IS MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT CITIZENS IN GENERAL USE, NOT JUST THE SCHOOL KIDS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARTICULARS AND DEPENDING ON YOUR DISTRICT, YOU MIGHT BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE THAN THE OTHERS.

UM, AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE, UM, TAB ELEMENTARY PLAYGROUND, I'M TOLD WHENEVER WE HAVE HEAVY RAIN, UH, NOBODY CAN PLAY ON IT BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE IS SO BAD.

WELL, THIS WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT ANNOYANCE.

AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE OTHERS, THE, THE SINGLE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE ON THIS LIST, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS, UH, TALKED ABOUT, UH, OFF AND ON IS I HOPE IT'S NOT AN OFFENSIVE TERM, BUT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD IT AS THE PIT, THE, THE BRUTON, UH, FOOTBALL FACILITY, WHICH IS, UM, GOT A LOT OF POTENTIAL, UH, BUT IS A REAL MESS.

AND SO THIS WOULD CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT A LOT MORE USABLE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THE THINGS ON THAT LIST.

UH, SO THE SUPERINTENDENT WOULD SAY, WE'RE STILL WORKING.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A CONTINGENCY ITEM.

UH, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE SMALL RECREATION, SPORTS ORIENTED THINGS AT FACILITIES FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER THAT ARE NEEDED THAT ARE SORT OF PROTECTING OUR SUN COSTS IN THESE FACILITIES, BUT DON'T COMPETE IN THE NORMAL CIP WITH THINGS LIKE SECURITY, VESTIBULES AND LIBRARY UPGRADES, THE FIELD AT BRUTON HIGH, IS THAT A TURF FIELD OR ARTIFICIAL TURF, UM, SAYS IT'S A TURF FIELD.

I'VE JUST HEARD THAT IT'S IN BAD SHAPE, BEEN ARTIFICIAL, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT, I MEAN, THE REPLACEMENT IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED NATURAL TURF OR ARTIFICIAL TURF.

THAT'S I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I BELIEVE THEIR ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THEY WOULD IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE AND CLEAN IT UP, BUT HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF FIELD THAT THEY HAVE NOW.

RIGHT.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH LIFE SOCCER WE GOT LEFT ON THE, UM, YOUR GUY WAS, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE A SEPARATE PLAN TO, IN THE CIP FOR THAT ONE.

CAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS USE THAT ONE AND MORE LIKE IT'S A LOT OF USE.

OKAY.

SO ONE OF THE THEMES YOU CAN SEE HERE

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IS SOME OF THE COUNTY MONEY, THE 1.5 MILLION, I MEAN, SOME OF THE COUNTY ARPA MONEY, THE 1.5 AND MOST OF THE SCHOOL FUNDS.

SO REALLY ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN A THIRD OF ALL THIS MONEY AS WE'RE PROPOSING, IT WOULD GO TOWARD, UH, SPORTS, RECREATIONAL ORIENTED THINGS, EITHER IN PARTS OR AT SCHOOL FACILITIES.

NEIL, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 20%? ARE YOU GOING TO GET INTO THAT LATER OR, WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, 1.6 MILLION, WE DEPLOYED AS A BONUS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART OF IT.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.

AND THAT CAME FROM OUT OF THAT.

YES.

AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 900,000.

THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ANYWHERE ELSE, WHICH WE'RE JUST KIND OF APPROACHING AS A CONTINGENCY, UH, RECALL THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET NEARLY AS MUCH AS THE CITIES, UM, UNDER THE RULES, WE WERE ABLE TO APPROPRIATE THIS AND RUN IT THROUGH OUR BOOKS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEADLINES ON USING THAT MONEY SO WE CAN SORT OF TAKE THE LUXURY OF, SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY ONE OF OUR BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS NEXT YEAR COMES IN HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT, IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT 900,000 TOWARDS THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.

OR IF THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM THAT EMERGES, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION, OR IT'S PERFECTLY WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE TO, UM, THE COMPLETE CIP AND WHAT I JUST WENT OVER WILL ALSO BE REFLECTED IN THERE.

BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE BIGGER LIST OF ALL OF THE THINGS, MOST OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE WITH NEW NUMBERS AND NEW TIMELINES.

SO, UH, TOP LINE HERE IS, UH, THE COMBINED SCHOOL AND COUNTY CIP, UH, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE LAST YEAR AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS YEAR AND, AND THE SWEEPING POINT TO BE MADE.

THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A, THERE'S A NEW SIXTH YEAR IN THE OLD FIRST YEAR DROPPED OUT.

UM, BUT BROAD BRUSH, THE OVERALL DOLLAR AMOUNT IS SIMILAR.

ALL THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN CERTAIN YEARS VARY SUBSTANTIALLY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PROJECT SCHEDULES.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THE, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ON THE LIST, BUT SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

SO THE BIG KAHUNA OF COURSE, IS THE SHERIFF'S HEADQUARTERS.

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING THAT RE THAT 23 NUMBER.

IF YOU LOOKED AT LAST YEAR, CIP WOULD HAVE SAID 18 MILLION, AND NOW IT SAYS 20.

AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THE 2 MILLION ARPA FUNDS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE YOU PROCEED.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS SUPPORT USED TO GET ON THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, LAYING OUT WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CARE.

WE COULD SEE THE CARRY OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR, IF IT WAS A CARRY OVER.

NO WORRIES.

WE DON'T START WITH ZERO LEASE.

WE USED TO NOT START WITH, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THERE'S A SLAG COMING UP WHERE WE SHOW USE OF ALL SOURCES OF CASH CARRY OVER.

THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE COMING UP HERE IN A MINUTE.

UM, AND SO, UM, THE MUCH SMALLER SCALE PROJECT, BUT IN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME IS THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THE CONSOLIDATED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING.

AND ACTUALLY ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE, UH, THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT FOR THAT PROJECT.

THE FRONT END OF THAT, AND RECALL, THIS REALLY FOLLOWS FROM DECISIONS WE MADE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE WERE GOING TO CREATE A ONE-STOP SHOP AND HAVE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND BUILDING SAFETY, AND ALSO GIS ALL IN THAT ONE PLACE.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT WOULD ACHIEVE THAT.

AND IT WOULD ALSO, THIS IS THE MUSICAL CHAIRS EXAMPLE, THEN OPEN UP THE POSSIBILITY TO CONSOLIDATE IT, WHERE WE MOVE BUILDING SAFETY OUT.

SO THE ASSUMPTION THEN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE CURRENT PROPERTY OR ANY YES.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

WE HAVE CONCENTRATED OUR COUNTY INVESTMENTS IN TWO PLACES, THE OPERATION CENTER CAMPUS IN YOUR TOWN.

YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO PLACES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS WE DECIDED TO RENT FOR VARIOUS REASONS, INCLUDING, UH, EASE OF CITIZEN ACCESS.

SO IF YOU GO OUT FURTHER TO 24, UM, THAT SHOWS THE LAST OF THE SPENDING ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING, AND THAT'S ASSUMED TO BE THE FIT UP THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU, AND THE LAST STUFF THAT GOES IN AS THAT BUILDING IS COMPLETED.

AND THEN, UM, REALLY THE LAST MAJOR PROJECT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF FACILITIES, UH, WOULD BE THE REDO OF THE FINANCE BUILDING.

I'M

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GOING TO PAUSE ON THIS ONE FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE THE REDOING, THE FINANCE BUILDING HAS BEEN ON OUR TO-DO LIST FOR AWHILE.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND AS WE'VE BEEN DOING, SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS IS WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE RIGHT SEQUENCE, UH, THAT REALLY NEEDS TO COME AFTER SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS ARE DONE.

UM, AND FRANKLY, WE NEED TO GET IT OUT OF THERE BEFORE WE DO A RENOVATION, BECAUSE WE CANNOT CLOSE THAT BUILDING.

LIKE WE CLOSED YORKTOWN LIBRARY, SO WE GOTTA TO HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO, TO RENOVATE ONE FLOOR AND HAVE EVERYBODY WORK ON ONE FLOOR AND THEN RENOVATE THE OTHER FLOOR.

AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHY, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT A PLAN FROM TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOONER.

THAT IS WHY THAT ONE IS PUSHED OUT, BECAUSE AS WE THOUGHT THROUGH THE SEQUENCING, UH, IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW THESE OTHER PROJECTS NEO, UM, ON, UH, ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT GO BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, SO THE BUILDING ITSELF, UH, FURNISHING YOU, IT COSTS ABOUT 25 MILLION, RIGHT? UM, PRETTY CLOSE.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A BID ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING YET, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU SIR.

SO YOU SAID THAT, UM, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE BONDING OR LOANING GETTING ALONE FOR MOST OF THAT OR A LOT OF IT.

SO WE'LL CARRY THAT.

AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE SHOWED THAT LOAN IN THAT PERIOD, BECAUSE FOR 2023, YOU GOT 20 MILLION IN THERE.

NO, WELL, SO THIS IS THE EXPENDITURE PLAN THAT THE BORROWING PLAN IS, THIS IS NOT THE BORROWING PLAN.

UM, THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE TAKE ON THIS IS GOING TO REFLECT THE DEBT THAT WE'RE LIVING WILL REFLECT THE DEBT IN ANOTHER PLACE.

SO, SO AGAIN, JUST SINCE THAT IS SUCH A HIGH PROFILE MAJOR PROJECT, THE 3 MILLION YOU SEE THERE, YOU'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED IN THE, IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND THAT THAT'S THE SITE WORK THAT'S WELL UNDERWAY.

UH, AND THEN THE 20 MILLION IS OUR REVISED ESTIMATE FOR THE ACTUAL COST OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WILL GO OUT TO BID PROBABLY THE SPRING.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT'LL COST UNTIL WE GET THE BIDS IN, BUT SOMETHING IN THAT RANGE.

AND THEN THE 1.5 IS KIND OF THE FINISHING IT UP AFTER THE, THE SHELL OF THE BUILDING IS IN PLACE.

SO THAT IS THE LARGEST PROJECT SINCE THE COURTHOUSE.

AND THEN YOU SEE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE OUT YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IF YOU GET OUT BEYOND ABOUT 24, 25, YOU GOT BITES AT THE APPLE, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

SO MOVING DOWN TO SOME OTHER THINGS, UM, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO THE ONES WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, PRETTY MODEST THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PROGRAM FOR YEARS, I'LL POINT OUT ONE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF TRYING TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING.

IF YOU SEE THE EXPANSION OF THE FIRING RANGE, RECALL THAT, UH, YOU ALL JUST APPROPRIATED THE MONEY FROM THE REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING ACADEMY.

UM, SO IT REALLY ISN'T COUNTY MONEY, BUT IT IS A COUNTY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE AND BUILD.

IT'S A, IT'S A REAL SIGNIFICANT THING.

SO WE'RE CAPTURING THAT IN THE CIP.

AND THEN YOU GET TO THE SUMMARY SLIDE AND YOU LOOK WHERE ALL THE SOURCES OF MONEY, THIS WOULD SHOW UP AS ONE OF THE GRANTS, AS OPPOSED TO BORROWED MONEY OR CASH.

SO THE DRIVERS, SO THIS FIRING RATES COST ABOUT 650,000, WELL, IT'S ABOUT $500,000 JOB.

AND THEN THIS REFLECTS, UM, THE MAINTENANCE CONTRIBUTION WE GET FROM THE REGIONAL FACILITY FOR MINOR UPGRADES IN THE, IN THE REST OF THOSE YEARS.

SO THAT'S ALL MONEY FROM THE REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING ACADEMY.

SO, OKAY, SO THAT MONEY IS THE 25,000.

SO IT'S NOT COMING OUT.

ALL OF, ALL OF THAT IS, UH, MONEY WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE REGIONAL AGENCY.

UM, MOVING ON INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE CATEGORY.

UM, MANY OF THESE ARE, UH, UH, THINGS YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

AND IN FACT, THE, UH, UH, THE STRETCHER, UH, REPLACEMENT ITEM IS ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S REVISED FOR THE YEAR WE'RE IN AND THE, UH, FIRE APPARATUS, THE SYSTEM WE'VE BEEN USING WITH GOOD SUCCESS, I THINK IN RECENT YEARS IS WE'VE PUT UP A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN AND THEN GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE DISCRETION ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE PRIORITY TO REPLACE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT A MATTER OF MILES ON A VEHICLE.

SOMETIMES IT'S SOMETIMES YOU GET A BETTER VEHICLE THAN OTHERS.

SOMETIMES VEHICLES GET IN A FEW WRECKS AND THEY DON'T LAST AS LONG.

AND THAT DOES THAT 2,000,025 DOES REFLECT THAT ADDITIONAL ARPA MONEY FOR THE EXTRA AMBULANCE, WHICH IS WHY THE NUMBERS BIGGER IN THIS REVISED FIRST YEAR THEN IN THE, IN THE

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OUTDOORS I RUNS.

SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FIRE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT COSTS, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF JUST FOR UPGRADES FOR EQUIVALENT.

TH THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE MO MEDIUM AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

WE BUDGET FOR LIGHT VEHICLES THROUGH OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUND THROUGH THIS.

THESE ARE CRASH TRUCKS, PUMPERS.

IT'S ABOUT THE PRICE OF A ONE, ONE BIG TRUCK, RIGHT? UH, I LAST, I HEARD THE, THE LARGEST TRUCKS, THE BIG, THE BIG LADDERS ARE LIKE 1.5 MILLION.

SO WE, WE, WE WILL BE BUYING ONE A YEAR AND THEN REPLACING OR REPLACING, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? YEAH.

AND THE, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO LIKE ONE YEAR YOU MIGHT GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PUMPER.

AND, UH, AND, UM, UH, AND YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR YOU MIGHT GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR FOUR AMBULANCES.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT VARIES.

UM, BUT OVERALL WE'VE HAD A GOOD TRACK RECORD OF KEEPING, UH, AN UP-TO-DATE OPERATIONAL FLEET.

BUT IF THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THE FACT THAT IT'S EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT, I HEAR YOU SAY THAT ONE AMBULANCE IN 22 WAS NO, UH, WE ADDED A 525 IS THE COST OF IT, A ONE FULLY EQUIPPED AMBULANCE.

WE, WE ADDED THE ARPA MONEY TO SORT OF WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL THE REGULAR ALLOCATION TO GET THAT EXTRA AMBULANCE IN THE MIX.

ONE, ONE FOR ONE, ONE IS 525,000.

YEAH.

IF YOU, IF YOU WERE BUYING ALL AMBULANCES WITH THAT MONEY THAT REFLECTS ON YOUR WINDOW.

YEAH.

WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFER TO THE CHIEF, BUT, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE COME FORWARD WITH OUR OTHER EQUIPMENT BUYS THIS YEAR ONE.

AND WHAT, WHAT DID WE BUY? WE HAVEN'T COME FORWARD TO RECOMMEND ALL OF IT UNDERSTAND.

SO I BELIEVE BACK IN AUGUST, WE, UH, PROCURED, UH, ONE REPLACEMENT PUMPER SKY, BOOM, ACTUALLY HE GOES TO THE SKIMMING OF FIRE STATION.

IT'S ON ORDER NOW.

AND THEN WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT THE NEXT, THE REMAINING FUNDS WILL FUND BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE AND MAINTENANCE RECORDS OF EXISTING EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT WILL BE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

GOTCHA.

THANKS.

SURE.

SO IN THE ANNUAL ALSO, SO IF WE LOOK ACROSS THE MACHINE YEAR TO YEAR AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT 1.6 MILLION ROUGHLY, RIGHT? SO THE 1.6 MILLION FOR 22, THEN ADD THE 500,000 FOR THE NEW, FOR THE EXTRA FIRED.

YEAH.

ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY REFLECT A LITTLE INFLATION AS THE YEARS GO ON THERE, BUT IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, IT COSTS ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS A YEAR TO KEEP THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HEAVY AND MEDIUM EQUIPMENT UP-TO-DATE.

IS THERE ANY GRANT MONEY THAT'S THROWN IN THERE THAT WE'RE COUNTING FOR ACCOUNTING FOR? UM, THERE IS SOME GRANT MONEY THAT WE USE FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER THINGS, LIKE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT AND OCCASIONALLY FOR AN AMBULANCE CHIEF, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY GRANT MONEY FOR THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WE'VE ATTEMPTED IN THE PAST, BUT HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN THAT CASE.

UH, IF AT LEAST SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY RECALL AT ONE POINT, WE WOULD GO ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS AND HAVE A LARGE LUMP SUM PURCHASE OF FIRE EQUIPMENT.

AND WE, WE BUY A LOT OF IT RIGHT AT ONCE.

AND THEN ANOTHER FIVE YEARS LATER, WE WOULD PURCHASE IT THE NEXT TRAUNCH, IF YOU WILL, AS NEIL LIKES TO USE THAT WORD.

UH, AND THEN IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE'D BE BETTER OFF BECAUSE SOMETIMES APPARATUS NEEDS, CAN'T ALL BE REPLACED IN FIVE-YEAR INCREMENTS.

SO WE SMOOTH THE, UH, FUNDING MODEL OUT, UH, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE FOR PURCHASES AND FOR EMERGENCY NEEDS.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE EBBS AND FLOWS IN THE CIP WITH THAT MAKES SENSE, CHIEF, ARE WE SEEING ANY DELAYS IF WE WANTED TO ORDER SOME NEW FIRE APPARATUS TODAY, ARE WE SEEING DELAYS OF THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, THINGS LIKE THAT DELAYS, UH, IF WE WERE TO ORDER A MEDIC UNIT RIGHT NOW, IT'S 18 TO 19 MONTHS FOR DELIVERY, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THE PROPOSED UNIT FOR SEVEN IN, FOR THIS YEAR MODIFIED.

SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT THIS YEAR, GET IT ORDERED THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? SURE.

SO, HEY, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT DELAYS.

WE REALLY NEED TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF IT, TOUCHING ANY IDEA WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL THESE SUPPLY CHAINS OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA.

WHAT ARE THESE, THESE AMBULANCES US MADE JAPANESE MADE? THEY ARE, I MEAN, THE LAST AMBULANCE HAS REPURCHASED WERE BUILT IN FLORIDA, A FIRE PUMPERS.

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LAST ONES WE PURCHASED WERE BUILT IN WISCONSIN.

UH, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE.

UH CHASSIES THAT THE TRUCKS ITSELF, THE CANS, ONYX ELECTRONICS CHIPS, JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLES.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF.

THANKS CHIEF.

OKAY.

SO THEN THE LAST ONE ON THAT PAGE IS ANOTHER, THE 180,000 ON BIOMEDICAL.

THERE, THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS ACTUALLY ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE REFLECTING 22, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN 22, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING SOME OF THESE REVISIONS WITH THE ARPA FUNDS NEO BETWEEN LAST 13 AND 14 AND 2027, WE GOT $1.4 MILLION IN MOBILE DATA TERMINAL REPLACEMENTS FOR THE SERVICE OFFICE IN THE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.

THESE, THE UNITS ARE IN THE VEHICLES MDTS.

YES, SIR.

THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE BASICALLY EVERY FIRE UNIT AND EVERY SHERIFF'S UNIT HAS A HARDENED.

ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A HARDENED COMPUTER IN THE VEHICLE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DO RECORDS CHECKS AND, UH, PULL UP DATA AND DO SEE JUST CHECKS WITH STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THINGS LIKE, GOT IT.

ARE WE REPLACING ALL OF THEM WITH IN 20, 27 OR IS THIS WELL THAT'S, THAT'S REFLECTING THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE ONES WE JUST BOUGHT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO NEEDING TO BE REPLACED AGAIN.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST SORT OF GOOD PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AS WE GET CLOSER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY HOLDING UP AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BUY THEM ALL AT ONCE, BUT THEN YOU OFTEN GET INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DISCOUNTS, IF YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YUP.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE TALK ABOUT REPLACING THE, UM, OR, UH, BUYING THE EXTRA FOR, UH, AMBULANCE.

AND I THINK AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THAT WE ARE THERE BOUTS AND WE SOME SOMEWHERE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, WE APPROVED THE LEASING OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THE METAL METAL BUILDING ADDITION FOR FIRE SAFETY SEVEN.

YES.

UM, WHEN, WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE? SO, UH, IT'S A RECALL AS A DESIGN BILL PROJECT, UH, AS OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THE DESIGN WAS A 60%, UH, THE METAL BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE WE USE THIS DESIGN BUILD METHOD, THE CONTRACTOR WAS ABLE TO ALREADY ORDER THAT THAT'S THE THING THAT HAS THE LONGEST LEAD TIME.

SO THE BUILDING MIGHT BE OPERATIONAL A YEAR FROM NOW.

SO IT, SO WE'LL HAVE THE BUILDING BEFORE WE HAVE FAR FAR THE, UH, THE AMBULANCE.

WE HAD THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO INCREMENTALLY MOVE IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING GETTING BUILT AND IT BECOMING A FULLY OPERATIONAL STATION.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME, YOU KNOW, GAP, UM, AND IT WILL ALSO DEPEND ON DECISIONS.

THIS BODY MAKES WITH PERSONNEL IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET ON, ON HOW, UH, HOW LARGE OF AN OPERATION WE HAVE INITIALLY AT THAT FACILITY.

OKAY.

SO W WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE EXTRA FIRE TRUCKS? SO, UH, THE COUNTY HAS FRONTLINE UNITS AND IT HAS RESERVE EQUIPMENT AND MEDICS BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, RACKS AND MAINTENANCE AND ALL THAT.

THE INITIAL IDEAS WE REPORTED WHEN WE DID THIS, WAS TO, UH, MOVE PROBABLY, UM, UH, ONE UNIT FROM THE HUBBARD LANE STATION TO THE MORE TOWN ROAD STATION TO JUST GET STARTED, TO SORT OF SPREAD OUT OUR ASSETS.

AND THEN, UM, THE FIRST PRIORITY BEYOND THAT WOULD BE A 24 7 MEDIC UNIT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE US A THIN IN TERMS OF BACKUP.

WELL, UH, NO, I MEAN, TO SOME DEGREE, IF YOU BUILD IT, YOU CREATE, YOU KNOW, DEMAND FOR MORE PEOPLE AND MORE EQUIPMENT.

UH, BUT MY ARGUMENT AND CERTAINLY, UH, I BELIEVE THE CHIEF WOULD AGREE WITH THIS IS EVEN IF YOU HAD THE SAME PEOPLE IN THE SAME EQUIPMENT THAT ARE POSITIONED, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME IMPROVEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MORE TOWN ROAD IS A LOT CLOSER TO WAYNESBURG AND TERRELL HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW, THE SINGLE LARGEST, MOST IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, HIGH-RISK BUILDING IN THE COUNTY.

AND SO TO HAVE OUR, LIKE OUR MAJOR LADDER TRUCK CLOSE TO THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT THE VISION CERTAINLY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF BUDGET YEARS IS TO STAFF UP.

SO THAT STATION IS, YOU KNOW, STAFFED LIKE OTHER STATIONS.

OH, WELL THAT'S SO THEY BUILDING THAT WE'RE BUYING, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD ANY OF OUR FIRE STATIONS.

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YEAH.

IT'S DESIGNED TO HOLD UP TO SIX PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS RESERVED UNITS AND THINGS, AND THINGS GET MOVED AROUND.

SPEAKING OF STAFF, THE BOND, A NEW AMBULANCE MEANS AND STAFF FOR IT, OR WOULD YOU USUALLY JUST SEND STAFF TO, UH, WELL, MY BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS CERTAINLY GOING TO INCLUDE A STAFFING INCREASE FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, IT WOULD TAKE EIGHT PEOPLE TO HAVE A 24 7 AMBULANCE OPERATION.

UH, AND SO I GUESS TO SOME DEGREE, I'M TAKING A LEAP OF FAITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE, IN THE OPERATING BUDGET.

IF FOR SOME REASON WE DECIDED WE COULDN'T, WE DIDN'T, THEN THERE'S AN EASY ANSWER.

UH, HOW MANY AMBULANCES DO WE HAVE STEVE? ALRIGHT, SO NINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE, FOR WHATEVER REASON DECIDED WE COULDN'T AFFORD THAT, OR WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, WE JUST SIMPLY DROP THIS ONE INTO THE INVENTORY, MOVE ONE TO RESERVE STATUS AND RETIRE.

THE OLDEST ONE, WE'VE GOT, DO WANT TO SAY IT THAT WAY.

UM, SO CONTINUING ON, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IS, UM, YOU ALL HAVE, UH, ESTABLISHED THIS PROCEDURE WHERE WE PUT A MILLION DOLLARS OF CASH CAPITAL TOWARD THE REGIONAL RADIO SYSTEM.

EVERY YEAR, WE SORT OF BUILD UP OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT, YOU A REPORT RECENTLY, BUT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, OR WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTING ON A, IN A, ONE OF THOSE FIVE-YEAR UPGRADES.

AND AS COMPARED TO FIVE YEARS AGO, WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE HALF OF THE COST OF THAT TRANSACTION IS GOING TO BE PAID WITH CASH.

WHEREAS FIVE YEARS AGO IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT DEBT.

AND OVER TIME, IF WE KEEP DOING THAT, WE'LL GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE EMERGENCY RADIO SYSTEM IS A HUNDRED PERCENT CASH, WHICH IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT, SINCE WE GOT TO HAVE IT.

AND OTHERWISE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MOVING THINGS AROUND.

SO, SO IS THIS YOUR OWN A MILLION DOLLARS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EVERY YEAR OR A MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? UM, WELL, I GUESS IT'S A TERM OF ART OR WHAT I, THE TERM I LIKE TO USE IS IT'S A CASH CAPITAL LINE ITEM IN THE CIP.

SO, UH, THAT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT.

IF WE HAVE ENOUGH CASH IN THE OPERATING BUDGET TO PUT IT INTO THE CIP.

AND, UH, IN RECENT YEARS WE'VE GONE FROM WE'VE, WE'VE GONE UP TO, UM, I'M HOPING IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO GET UP TO ABOUT A $4 MILLION CASH CAPITAL NUMBER.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE DEBT SLIDES LATER, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT HOLDS YOUR DEBT DOWN.

OKAY.

HOW, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD WE, AS SUPERVISORS KNOW WHEN WE, WE HAVE TO PUSH THINGS OFF FURTHER OUT AND WE DO THIS, BUT I MEAN, SO, UM, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION.

UH, SO IF HE CAN'T AFFORD A HUNDRED DOLLARS, I CAN'T AFFORD A MILLION.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU THE BEST, MOST RECENT EXAMPLE.

MY FIRST COMMENTS TONIGHT ON THE CIP IS WE'RE COMING BACK FROM A ONE-YEAR FREEZE ON THE CIP.

SO IN F Y 21, WE DID NOT PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH IN THERE CAUSE WE FROZE THE CIP.

SO WE JUST, WE, IT WAS A LAST YEAR FOR ANY CASH CAPITAL IN THE CIP, BUT THAT'S EASY TO EXPLAIN.

YOU JUST FROZE THE WHOLE CIP, RIGHT? WELL, EXCEPT FOR $1 BILLION.

SO EMERGENCY SAVED IF WE HAVE TO, AS, UH, AS STEWARDS OF THE COUNTY'S MONEY HERE, WE'RE WE, UH, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE HAVING TO PUSH THINGS OFF BECAUSE OF AN ITEMS BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS.

WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, HOPEFULLY IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, HAVING DIALOGUE AND THE FINANCE STAFF IS HAVING DIALOGUE ABOUT THE TRADE-OFFS AND THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE.

BUT THE FIRST EXAMPLE THAT COMES TO MIND IS IN LAST YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET DISCUSSION, UH, WE ENDED UP REDUCING THE CASH CAPITAL NUMBER IN THE BUDGET BY 600,000 THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO.

UH, BUT THAT WAS THE TRADE-OFF FOR NOT RAISING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

AND WE WERE, AS, AS I SAID, PRIVATELY, IT TURNED OUT TO BE FINE BECAUSE OUR SURPLUS ENDED UP BEING BIGGER AND THE COVID IMPACT B ENDED UP BEING SMALLER THAN I THOUGHT.

BUT THAT, THAT WAS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, A RELATED TO B UH, IF WE GOT THAT MONEY, IT WAS GOING TO GO FOR CASH CAPITAL.

AND SINCE WE DIDN'T GET THAT MONEY AND CUT CASH CAPITAL BY THAT AMOUNT AND IN THE SHORT-TERM, I FILLED

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THE GAP BY PUTTING SURPLUS FUNDS INTO IT, WHICH IS A GREAT STRATEGY IF YOU HAVE.

YEAH.

I KNEW, I KNEW GOING INTO THAT WHEN I PUSH, I PUSHED FOR THE REDUCTION AND THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, IT WOULD END.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I, I ADMIT PUBLICLY MR. ZAREMBA WAS RIGHT AT THAT TIME.

MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD TAKE A NOTE OF THE DATE AND TIME, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO POINT OUT WHEN YOU WERE OFF 26 YEARS? I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT.

UM, SO I'M GONNA MOVE YOU, I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.

YEAH.

SO PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, LINE ITEM AND ONE THAT MAYBE WE SOMETIMES DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON, UH, TWO BIG KINDS OF THINGS HERE.

UM, ARE TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS SUCH AS THEY ARE SHOW UP HERE, UM, AND YOU SEE THE HIGHWAY AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.

WE USE THOSE FUNDS ALONG WITH, UH, SURPLUS FUNDS WHEN WE HAVE THEM TO DO A V DOT REVENUE SHARING CASH MATCHES.

SO THE MORE MONEY WE PUT IN THAT HIGHWAYS AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, MONEY, EVERY DOLLAR WE PUT IN, WE DOUBLED THE WAY THE STATE WILL WORK.

SO WE TRY TO BE JUST ABOUT AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE CAN BE THERE.

UM, A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IMPRESSED ABOUT, UH, YOUR COUNTY FINANCES.

UH, WHEN I ARRIVED, IT WAS LIKE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE.

WE PROPERLY FUND OUR RESERVE MAINTENANCE ACCOUNTS FOR FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, THE FIRST RULE OF AN ORGANIZATION IS PROTECT YOUR SUNK COSTS THE THINGS YOU ALREADY, UM, DON'T LET THEM DETERIORATE WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.

AND SO THESE LINE ITEMS LIKE HPAC REPLACEMENT, ROOF REPAIR, UH, YOU KNOW, TENNIS, BASKETBALL, COURT REPAIR, UM, PARKING LOT REPAIR, BUILDING MAINTENANCE.

THESE ARE THE SMALL THINGS.

WHEN YOU KNOW, YOUR ROOF'S LEAKING, UH, WHEN, UH, THE HPAC BREAKS, UH, AND THESE THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

AND THESE ARE THE LINE ITEMS THAT ALLOW US TO END OUR PUBLIC WORK.

STAFF DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB SCHEDULING ALL THAT OUT.

AND IN THE DETAIL THAT WE SENT YOU, UH, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE PRELIMINARY IDEAS DOWN TO THE $50,000 WHILE FOR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, OF COURSE, ALL OF THAT WILL CHANGE, BUT THINGS THAT SOMEBODY OUT THERE KNOWS WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, UM, WHAT PUMP STATION WORK IS THAT UNDER MAJOR GRANTS REPAIRING? UH, NO THAT SHOWS UP UNDER, UM, UH, THE, UH, SEWER FUND, WHICH WE'RE GETTING TO HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY FOR MR. GREEN'S COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE LENGTH OF MY REMARKS, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE WANT YOU TO BE THOROUGH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UH, ITEM THAT IS AN ANTICIPATION OF V DOT SOMEDAY, UH, WIDENING ROUTE 17, UH, TO GOODWIN NECK.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UH, UP TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GOODWIN NECK, AS WE DID ON THE LAST PHASE AND THE, THESE ESTIMATES FOR WHAT IT COSTS TO VARY THE UTILITIES VERY WILDLY.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.

AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WE CAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO SINCE ALL THE UTILITY COMPANIES HAVE TO MOBILIZE TO DO THE WORK VERY CLOSE BY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE ABOVE GROUND UTILITIES IN FRONT OF FIRE STATION, NUMBER ONE, BURIED AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, WE WANTED TO DO IT AT THE TIME WE DID THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE TAG WAS TOO HIGH.

SO OUR HOPE IS THAT WHEN THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE MOBILIZE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, DOING A BUNCH OF OTHER WORK THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET IT DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY, BUT THAT WE'RE ALL SUBJECT TO WHEN THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD.

AND IT'S PROBABLY THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, YOU SEE, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS HERE, UM, THAT, UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE, UH, I'M LOOKING FOR SOME OTHER THINGS, IS PRINCE A LITTLE, I'M STRUGGLING MY EYES HERE, STRUGGLING WITH THIS, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE ARPA MONEY IS WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT LAST YEAR.

AND YOUR CIP, YOU SEE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION.

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UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD PUT IN THOSE NUMBERS THAT SHOW UP IN 26 AND 27, BASICALLY THE SAME IDEA.

UH, WE NEED TO START MAKING SOME INVESTMENTS IN OUR OUTDOOR RECREATION PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE.

WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT YOU SEE THE 1.5 MILLION THERE IN 25.

THAT'S THE ART, THE MONEY I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT COMBINED, WHAT YOU'VE GOT IS ABOUT A $3 BILLION EFFORT, UH, WHEN YOU GET OUT, UH, TO 20, 25 AND 26, FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY DECIDES ARE THE RIGHT THINGS TO INVEST IN.

WHY IS WAYFINDING AND SIGNAGE? WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? UM, I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S, UM, IT'S INTENDED TO BE A LOT MORE VISIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE THAN SORT OF STANDARD BEAT DOT SIGNAGE.

I MEAN, I'M THINKING OF THAT BLUE LIGHT DOWN THERE ON THE, ON THE WATERFRONT, AND THAT'S SORT OF A PATHWAY WAYFINDING THING, OR IS THAT A WELL THAT, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A SECURITY THING THAT THIS IS DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE TO HELP VISITORS FIND THINGS IN YORKTOWN.

NEIL DOES THAT $4 MILLION FOR RIVER AND LANDING RESTAURANT RESTORATION ON TOP OF THE $2 MILLION.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TOTAL ESTIMATED $4 MILLION COST OF THE 2 MILLION ARPA MONEY IS WITHIN THAT TOTAL SPEAKING OF EXPENSIVE YORK TIME EFFICIENT PERIOD PROVEN AT $660,000.

I'M 20, 28.

WHAT WE IMPROVE IN A REPLACEMENT.

UM, IT'S FAR ENOUGH OUT THERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY SAY, UM, MR. FULLER JUST WALKED IN FROM ANOTHER MEETING.

I PUT HIM ON THE SPOT, SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.

IT'S, IT'S BOTH, IT'S IT'S THE PEER WAS PUT IN 20 YEARS AGO, SO IT NEEDS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND ALSO NEEDS TO BE DEEP, GET OUT TO DEEPER WATER.

YOU GOT TO, YOU GOT TO EXTEND STAND IT.

YES.

AND ALSO HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY.

MR. FULLER, WE HAD TALKED A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING THAT PIER HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.

WE WOULD ALSO ADD HANDICAP COMPONENTS TO THAT FOR FISHING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S GO BE IN A, IN A, MORE OF A PEER, NOT JUST, OKAY.

THANK YOU, BRIAN.

THANKS.

SO, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, AND OF COURSE THE DARK FIBER IS THE, THE ARPA MONEY THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROPRIATED, BUT THAT SHOWS UP THERE UNDER IT.

AND SO THIS IS THE, UH, THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND YEAR BY YEAR SUMMARY SHEET THERE.

SO NOW I DO WANT TO GO, UH, OVER THE, UH, THE STORM WATER AND THE SEWER FUNDS, WHICH ARE MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.

THAT FOR THE MOST PART TEND TO BE MORE TECHNICALLY DRIVEN THAN THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT UP TO NOW, WHICH ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOARD POLICY TYPES OF DECISIONS.

UH, WE'VE GOT A TON OF STORMWATER PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE, NO PUN INTENDED.

AND, UM, I WILL, I WILL JUST, UH, SAY THEY'RE ALL OUT THERE.

EACH ONE HAS A SIGNIFICANT STORY, SIGNIFICANT HISTORY.

UM, AND, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, OR YOU CAN STUDY THEM AT YOUR LEISURE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM, BUT REAL QUICK, UH, THE CELESTIAL WAY SCREEN RESTORATION, MR. WATSON, THE NEAR MS. FOSTER PROPERTY.

UM, I CAN'T FIND LESS YOUR WAY ANYWHERE.

WHAT IS WHAT I MEAN THAT A STRAIGHT DAYS PLAN FOR THAT.

THAT'S THE, THAT IS THE TENTATIVE NAME OF HIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO LAST YEAR AND WHO'S, UH, DAVID LIVES.

SO, SO THE IDEA WE SENT YOU A LITTLE REPORT ON THAT RECENTLY, THE IDEA THERE WOULD BE INSTEAD OF, UM, UH, WHAT I WOULD CALL AN OLD FASHIONED BIG CONCRETE OPEN DITCH THAT WOULD BE IN BOTH UNATTRACTIVE AND, UM, UH, NOT REALLY VERY GOOD ENVIRONMENTALLY.

UH, IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LUCK WITH THESE STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS AND THE STATE'S BEEN VERY FRIENDLY ABOUT GIVING US GRANTS.

SO WHEN WE DO STREAM RESTORATION, THAT SHOWS THE FULL COST OF THOSE PROJECTS, BUT CHANCES ARE REMEMBER, I THINK THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE HAD, WE HAD ONE WHERE WE GOT A GRANT FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST.

SO THERE'S KIND OF A WIN-WIN.

AND SO THEN THERE'S THIS SORT OF THE STORMWATER SUMMARY,

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OUR INTERNAL SERVICES LIKE FLEET, WE HAVE SOME THINGS, AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, WE HAVE TO FINISH THE FUEL UPGRADES.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE COMPLETION OF THE FUEL, THE MAIN FUEL SITE AT THE OPERATION CENTER, BUT WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE TANKS AT BOTH THE OTHER SITES IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

HOWEVER, REFLECTING, OR IS THERE ANY REFLECTION OF FACT WE'RE TAKING OVER BASICALLY MAINTENANCE? SO HAMPTON HIGH HIGHWAY PAY, UM, AS THAT REFLECT, IT'S NOT REALLY REFLECTED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, OTHER THAN THERE'S PROBABLY A PUBLIC WORKS LINE ITEM FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, WITH A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL COST.

OKAY.

SO THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS LOW ENOUGH, NOT THERE, MATE, THAT 50,000.

WELL, MY EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT IS THERE WAS A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WHEN WE ADDED THE HYBRID CREW, WHICH WAS PART OF THE INITIAL BUDGET THAT IS THEN REPLACED AS PART OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND PROCESS, LIKE ALL THE LIGHT VEHICLES.

SO A DEPARTMENT, IF IT HAS 15 LIGHT VEHICLES OR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE GENERAL FUND IS TAXED.

THEN THAT MONEY IS SWEPT TO THE FLEET FUND.

AND THEN THE FLEET PEOPLE MAKE A DETERMINATION WHEN IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO REPLACE IT.

AND UNLIKE A LOT OF THINGS IN GOVERNMENT OF VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT IS SOMEWHAT SCIENTIFIC WHEN IT COMES TO, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE OPTIMAL POINT.

IF YOU REPLACE IT SOONER, YOU'RE SPENDING MORE THAN YOU NEED TO.

AND IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UM, YOU'RE NOT DOING IT AT THE, AT THE OPTIMUM POINT.

I DO WANT TO SPEND A MINUTE ON THE SEWER FUND.

UH, MR. RON, YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

UM, THIS IS, UH, A MAJOR OPERATION OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT, OF COURSE.

AND WE, THE BOARD AT A COUPLE OF OUR RETREATS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SOME WERE KIND OF AT A, IN A DIFFERENT POINT IN THE, IN THE LIFE OF YOUR COUNTY, WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THE SEWER SYSTEM, THERE ARE A FEW SMALL PLACES WHERE THERE ARE RESIDENCES THAT DON'T HAVE SEWER AND, AND A FEW OF THOSE ARE REFLECTED HERE, BUT BY AND LARGE, ALL OF THE MAJOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY HAVE SEWER AND INCREASINGLY, AND YOU SEE THIS REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS, BUT INCREASINGLY THE BIG NUMBERS ARE GOING INTO SEWER LINE REHABILITATION AND PUMP STATION REHABILITATION.

IT'S MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM THAT WE'VE GOT IS MAINLY WHAT THE STORY OF THE SEWER FUND IS GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE, BUT YOU'RE NOT EXTENDING WELL.

WELL, LIKE WHEN THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S IT'S SEWER AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEE AND THEY BUY IN, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, NOPE, LITTLE SECTIONS OF THE COUNTY THAT HAVE A SMALL CLUSTERS OF HOMES BEEN OUT THERE FOREVER WITHOUT SCHOOL.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THOSE THERE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, SHANKA STATES AND THE BIG BETHEL AREA OR TWO IN THAT CATEGORY, NOW, THE THING YOU GET INTO THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT DEGREE DO THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE WANT IT? CAUSE IT IS A VERY DISRUPTIVE THING TO GO TO SEWER.

AND SO OFTENTIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS IF, IF THE, IF THE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THE, IF THE SEPTICS ARE WORKING FINE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S NOT OBJECTING, UH, WE MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, BE TOO AGGRESSIVE.

IF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STARTS SEEING FAILURES OR PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPRESS AN INTEREST, THEN WE KIND OF MOVE IT UP ON THE LIST.

BUT IT'S, IT'S IN TERMS OF A PERCENTAGE, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 5% OF OUR RESIDENCES AREN'T ON THE SEWER SYSTEM AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

AND WE DO HAVE TO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PUMP STATION HAS A GENERATOR AND WE ALL, AND WE GOT TO KEEP EVERY ONE OF THOSE FUELED IN AN EMERGENCY AND ALL OF THEM OPERATIONAL MR. MORGAN, EVERY MONTH THE RESIDENTS PAY A SEWER MAINTENANCE FEE.

WHERE DOES THAT GO? THAT PAYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE, BASICALLY.

THANKS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A PROJECT STORY AND I'M ALMOST DONE, BUT I DID.

AND THIS GETS TO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED EARLIER.

DO YOU WANT TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, GET IN THE FINANCE SIDE OF ALL THIS? SO THIS IS, AND AGAIN, THE SCHOOL CIP, WE TOOK THE TOP LINE NUMBERS FROM THE SUPERINTENDENTS CIP, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN ACTED ON BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

SO THE DETAILS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CHANGE, BUT

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HE'S GOT GUIDANCE FROM US AS FAR AS TOP LEVEL NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.

AND, UM, HERE YOU SEE THE COUNTY TOTAL, THE SCHOOL TOTAL, UM, AND, UH, THE, UH, PAYGO VERSUS DEBT FINANCING.

AND SO WHAT IS INTERESTING IS, UH, THE SCHOOLS HAVE STARTED MAKING A LITTLE PROGRESS TOWARD DOING A LITTLE BIT OF PAYGO.

UH, THE COUNTY'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THAT.

AND TO BE FAIR, WE HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO YEAR END SURPLUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT THIS CIP FROM THE SCHOOLS ASSUMES THE USE OF SOME OF THE PROFIT MONEY, UH, THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, FROM DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST, WHICH IS CASH.

UH, IT ASSUMES THE USE OF, UM, UH, ABOUT 20% OF THE IMPACT AID FUND, WHICH HAS BUILT UP A SUBSTANTIAL RESERVE.

UM, AND SO, UH, OVERALL OUR, OUR DEBT TO CASH NUMBER IS PRETTY FAVORABLE COMPARED TO A LOT OF LOCALITIES AND GO BACK.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME BACK TO CHARLOTTE TO CHART THE YELLOW COLUMN, UH, COLLECTIVELY, DOES THAT ADD UP TO BE THE COUNTY'S TOTAL DEBT? NO.

UH, TO FIND THAT, I MEAN, IT'S IN THE, THE BUDGET DOCUMENT IN THE CAFFER THAT, THAT COMPILES, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BORROWINGS FROM THE PAST AND WHEN THEY EXPIRE, THIS IS THE PLAN FOR DEBT AND CASH FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THAT SAYS IS, UM, UNDER THAT PLAN THAT WE'D JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE COUNTY WOULD USE $53 MILLION OF CASH FROM VARIOUS SOURCES, GRANTS, CASH, CAPITAL RESERVES, SURPLUS, UM, AND THE SCHOOLS WOULD USE 8 MILLION OF CASH FROM VARIOUS SOURCES.

AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD BORROW 36 MILLION AND THE SCHOOLS WOULD BORROW ARE ACTUALLY WE BORROWED FOR THEM JUST UNDER EIGHT.

AND THAT'S FOR THOSE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS THAT HAVE REFLECTED ON IN SHORT.

YES.

I GUESS MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO BEFORE THAT, THAT IS ED, DO WE HAVE THE TOTAL DEBT AT THE COUNTY OR ARE WE SORT OF A MICRO OF THE NATION THAT WE JUST BUILDING UP DEBT? THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT I DIDN'T THINK, OH, OKAY.

SO WHAT THIS IS REALLY IN TENNESSEE, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CASH THAT ARE ASSUMED TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEBT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO AFFORD THE CIP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, AND COMPARED TO MANY PLACES, THAT'S A REALLY POSITIVE STORY AND YOU ALL HAVE DEBT POLICIES GETTING TO YOUR QUESTION, RIGHT? SO UNLIKE THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, WE DON'T PRINT MONEY.

AND, UM, SO IF, IF I'M RECOMMENDING A CIP TO YOU, THEN IT'S GOT TO ADHERE TO THESE POLICIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ESTABLISHED IN YEARS PAST ADMITTEDLY WITH VARIOUS ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.

BUT AGAIN, EVERY YEAR, YOU ALL, WE ALL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHAT'S HAPPENED.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, POLICIES IS THAT THE, UH, THE DEBT OF THE COUNTY, AND THIS IS BECAUSE REMEMBER WE TAKE ON DEBT WITH THE SCHOOLS TO SEND THE COMBINED DEBT OF THE SCHOOL AND COUNTY CIP SHOULD NOT EXCEED 3% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR POLICIES.

SO, UM, IF EVERYTHING HAPPENS IN THIS PLAN AT THE RATE AND AT THE COSTS THAT WE PROJECT AT THE END OF SIX YEARS FROM NOW, WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN HALF OF THE POLICY LIMIT.

SO VERY COMFORTABLE IN TERMS OF DEBT, DOES THAT LIMIT A DICTATED AT ALL FROM THE GODS HIGHER HEADQUARTERS, LIKE THE STATE, UM, THAT PARTICULAR ONE IS NOT, BUT I'M SURE, UH, LIKE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND IF WE WERE TO SEEK BOND RATINGS, THAT WOULD BE THE KIND OF THING THEY WOULD JUDGE US BY, SORRY, EXISTING DEBT RATIO IS ABOUT, I'LL SAY RATIO IS ABOUT 1.2%, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

RIGHT? SO, AND THEN THIS IS THE OTHER, UM, MEASURE THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK TO, AND THAT IS THAT, UM, THE DEBT SERVICE,

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UH, SHALL NOT EXCEED 10% OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE BUDGET.

UM, AND SO, UM, AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S AT 7.8, IT WOULD GO TO 9.3.

IF THIS PLAN WAS FULLY IMPLEMENTED AS SHOWN AN INTERESTING THING, WE LEARNED, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ALREADY KNEW THIS, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY, UH, CALLED THE, MY ATTENTION.

IT'S REALLY INTERESTING WHEN YOU DID THE ONE YEAR FREEZE, WHAT THAT DID IS IT ALLOWED SOME OLDER DEBT TO PAY OFF AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IF YOU EVER LET'S SAY, UH, THREE OR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WE SAY OTHERS, A RECESSION, THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD.

WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CASH TO PUT IN.

AS WE THOUGHT, UM, SOMEBODY LIKE ME OR MY SUCCESSOR WOULD PROBABLY SAY, WELL, THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST HOLD UP ON EVERYTHING FOR A YEAR.

LET SOME OF THAT DEBT CLEAR THE SYSTEM.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS REMARKABLE HOW MUCH JUST FREEZING THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR ONE YEAR ACCOMPLISHED.

IT HAD A SECONDARY BENEFIT, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL PEOPLE AND THE COUNTY PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE REALLY BUSY.

THEY'RE WORKING ON LOTS OF COMPLICATED THINGS, YOU KNOW, FIRE STATION, SEVEN YOURTOWN LIBRARY, SHERIFF'S HEADQUARTERS AND OTHER THINGS.

AND MAYBE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE A ONE YEAR FREEZE JUST TO KIND OF LET EVERYBODY CATCH UP ON EVERYTHING.

DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE DID OUR, UH, OFF-SITE, UH, TRADE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE OF OUR CITY GETTING IN TROUBLE, LIKE FOR YOU, WAS THIS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE THEY FAIL IN TERMS OF MANAGING YOUR DEBT RATIOS? YES, BUT IT WASN'T THEIR BIGGEST FAILURE.

THEIR BIGGEST FAILURE WAS, UM, THEY DRAINED ALL OF THEIR RESERVES AND HAD, UM, ROSY PROJECTIONS THAT SORT OF ALLOWED EVERYONE TO THINK EVERYTHING WAS OKAY.

SO THAT PUTS THE DEBT POLICY IN GRAPHIC FORM.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, YOU SEE THAT DIP, THAT'S KIND OF A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT.

ONE-YEAR FREEZE.

INTERESTING.

SO BASICALLY AT THE END OF THIS SIX YEAR PLAN, WE WOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE, UH, RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF DEBT, IF ALL OF THIS WORKS OUT, I JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL THERE ARREST THAT THE STEADY CLIMB AFTER 2028.

YEAH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF BIG PROJECTS CAN, CAN, CAN, CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UH, AND SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF A RECAP OF GOING BACK TO, UH, I THINK IT WAS MR. QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE OF THE COUNTY FOR ALL OF THE BONDED DEBT AND ALL OF THE CAPITAL LEASES THAT WE PAY FOR BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT DEBT SERVICE LINE ITEM NUMBER, UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S IN THE CONTEXT OF A GENERAL FUND BUDGET, THAT'S SAY, STARTING TO PUSH 160 MILLION.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT GOES ALONG THOSE YEARS.

SO THAT'S THE PROJECTED DEBT.

THE COUNTY WILL BE CARRYING YEAR TO YEAR, UH, THE, THE AMOUNT YOU HAVE TO PAY EACH YEAR.

SO YOU COULD KIND OF THINK OF THAT IS THE OPERATING BUDGETS, DEBT BURDEN.

OKAY.

IT'S A DEAD SERVICES, LIKE WOULD BE 11.9 MILLION, UH, IN THE YEAR WE'RE IN.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WHAT, OR WHERE IS THE NUMBER THAT SHOWS THE TOTAL DEBT? UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S IN OUR BUDGET DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOT ON THIS SHEET BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WOULD BE UNREADABLE IF YOU HAD ALL THAT MANY ZEROS, BUT IT'S, IT'S READILY AVAILABLE.

WE CAN, MAYBE WE CAN SEND SOMETHING TOMORROW.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IN THE CAFFER, WHICH IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE JUST PASSED OUT TO YOU.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CIP, UH, RECALL THAT UNDER STATE LAW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO CERTIFY THAT, UM, THE, UH, CIP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, WE WOULD, UH, TAKE YOUR INPUT AND LOAD THIS INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT I'LL BE MAKING IN MARCH.

AND THEN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, IT WOULD BE A PART OF THE REST OF THE BUDGET REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO THAT WE'RE DOING SMART.

MY REMARKS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORGAN, MR. , MR. RON? NOPE.

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MR. SHEPHERD.

NOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MORGAN, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

[B. Redistricting. Receive presentation from Timothy C. Cross, Deputy Director of Planning and Development Services and Claiborn L. Phillips, GIS Supervisor.]

NOW, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION ON REDISTRICTING, AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON MR. MORGAN TO INTRODUCE MR. CROSS.

SO I THINK THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THESE THINGS AND, AND MR. HILL MIGHT WANT TO COMMENT AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THESE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE PROBABLY EVEN MADE BY MR. CROSS.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SITUATION IS WE'RE IN SOMEWHAT OF A CATCH 22.

UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE DECISIONS BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR ABOUT, UH, ANY REDISTRICTING THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL SEATS.

UH, BUT YET TO SOME DEGREE, THAT DECISION HAS TO BE INFORMED BY DECISIONS ABOUT FROM THE STATE ABOUT GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN MADE.

SO WE LITERALLY CAN'T MAKE A FINAL DECISION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.

AND SO WE THOUGHT, AND THIS WAS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEYS, UH, THAT THE, THE, THE RIGHT WAY TO HANDLE THIS WOULD BE TO GIVE YOU ALL A PRESENTATION BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE KNOW AND GET YOUR REACTION, PERHAPS GET YOUR DIRECTION TO PURSUE TWO OR THREE OF THESE IDEAS AND A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

AND THEN PRESUMABLY ALL OF THAT STATE ACTION WOULD OCCUR IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

AND THEN STAFF CAN TAKE YOUR DIRECTION TONIGHT, INTEGRATE IT WITH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE STATE MAKES THEIR DECISIONS AND THEN COME BACK PRACTICALLY.

IT'S NOT A GIGANTIC PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE AN ELECTION.

SO, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PRACTICAL DEADLINE.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE BEEN DOING.

THEY'VE AT LEAST STARTED THE PROCESS, BUT THE KIMBERLY FINISHED IT UNTIL WE LEARNED SOME MORE FROM THE STATE.

RICHARD, IS THAT FAIR? GENERALLY TRUE.

OKAY.

SO TIM, TIM WORKING WITH CLAYBORNE AND SOME OTHERS, UH, HAS WORKED UP SOME IDEAS AND, UH, I'LL LET HIM TAKE IT FROM THERE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AS, UH, MR. MORGAN INDICATED CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE REQUIRED TO ADJUST OUR ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARIES EVERY 10 YEARS, FOLLOWING THE DECENNIAL CENSUS, THE PURPOSE BEING TO EQUALIZE POPULATION ACROSS ELECTION DISTRICTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.

WE FINALLY GOT THE OFFICIAL 2020 CENSUS RESULTS LAST AUGUST, UH, SHOWING A COUNTY WITH A POPULATION OF 70,045 PEOPLE.

THAT MEANS WE'VE ADDED 4,858 PEOPLE SINCE 2010.

THAT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL INCREASE OF SEVEN POINT PERCENT.

UH, WE'LL HEAR A LOT OF, UH, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN FACT, THE 2010S WERE THE SLOWEST, UH, GROWTH DECADE THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, SINCE THE 1940S, THIS CHART SHOWS AVERAGE ANNUAL POPULATION INCREASE GOING BACK, UH, SIX DECADES.

AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN TERMS OF BOTH THE NUMBER AND THE PERCENTAGE, THE 20, 2010S PALE IN COMPARISON TO, UH, PREVIOUS OR ALL OF THE LAST SIX DECADES, OF COURSE, IF ALL THE GROWTH OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS HAD BEEN EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE FIVE DISTRICTS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REDISTRICT BECAUSE, UH, THE POPULATE, THE DISTRICTS WOULD BE EQUAL POPULATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.

MOST OF THE POPULATION GROWTH, UH, UH, SINCE 2010, UH, WAS IN DISTRICT ONE AND THREE.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART HERE, WE'RE SHOWING 2010 VERSUS 2020 CENSUS, UH, ONE, THREE AND FIVE, UH, WHILE THERE WAS VERY LITTLE GROWTH IN DISTRICTS, TWO AND FOUR.

OKAY.

UM, SO BASED ON THE COUNTIES, TOTAL POPULATION, THE IDEAL DISTRICT POPULATION WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 14,000.

THAT'S THE, UH, ON THIS CHART, THAT'S THE RED LINE THAT YOU SEE UP THERE BETWEEN THE TWO DASH LINES? UH, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DRAW FIVE DISTRICTS THAT ARE EXACTLY EQUAL IN POPULATION.

SO THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEVIATION ALLOWED.

THE RULE IS PLUS A MINUS 5%.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE TWO DASH LINES REPRESENT THE LOWER AND UPPER LIMITS OF WHAT WOULD BE, UH, ACCEPTABLE DISTRICT POPULATION.

UH, SO OUR GOAL IN REDISTRICTING IS FOR ALL THE DISTRICT TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 13,339 AND 14,743 PEOPLE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, BASED ON THE 5% RULE DISTRICTS, FOUR

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AND FIVE ARE BOTH ACTUALLY WITHIN THAT RANGE.

UNFORTUNATELY, UH, DISTRICTS ONE AND THREE HAVE TOO MUCH POPULATION AND DISTRICT TWO, UH, DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH.

UH, NOW THIS CHART SHOWS, UH, FUTURE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE.

THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR THEY'RE UNDER REVIEW, OR THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED THROUGH OR APPROVED THROUGH REZONING A PROCESS, BUT HAVE NOT ACTUALLY STARTED SITE PLAN OF SUBDIVISION REVIEW.

AND SO WE BROKEN IT DOWN BY ELECTION DISTRICT.

UH, AND THE REASON I SHOW THIS IS THAT IN ADDITION TO CURRENT POPULATION BALANCED AND OTHER FACULTY, THE BOARD MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN EVALUATING POSSIBLE REDISTRICTING SCENARIOS IS FUTURE POPULATION BALANCE.

GIVEN THAT THE POPULATION GROWS, UH, POPULATION IS GOING TO GROW UNEVENLY AS THE DECADE GOES ON.

SO IF, UH, UH, IF YOU WANT IT TO MAINTAIN BETTER BALANCE BETWEEN, UH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, ALMOST 60% OF THE PIPELINE UNITS ARE IN DISTRICT ONE WHILE THERE HARDLY ANY IN DISTRICTS FOUR OR FIVE.

UH, SO IF THE BOARD WERE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO MAINTAIN A RELATIVELY EQUAL BALANCE OF POPULATION, AS THE DECADE GOES ON, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER COMING UP WITH REDISTRICTING PLANET PLACES, A DISTRICT ONE, MAYBE DISTRICT THREE AT THE LOWER END OF THAT, UH, POPULATION RANGE AND DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE AT THE HIGHER END, JUST IN ORDER TO ENSURE A GREATER POPULATION BALANCE, UH, TO, UH, UH, TAKE, TAKE DOWN A FUTURE GROWTH.

OH, W UH, TIM HAD A QUESTION THAT ONE OF MY HEAD GO BACK TO EDGE.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? NO, NO.

BACK TO THE PIE.

YEAH.

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT DISTRICT ONE, THE 58.8% FUTURE HOUSING, HUGE HOUSING THAT ARE UNDER, UH, THESE ARE HOUSING BY THE COUNTY ALREADY, OR WHAT THESE ARE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT YET, BUT THEY'RE IN THE PIPELINE.

THAT IS TO SAY THEY ARE EITHER IN PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, LIKE MARCIE HILL SAY DISTRICT ONE, OR COULD BE, UH, ALSO PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER SITE PLAN OR SUBDIVISION REVIEW.

UH, THAT MILL WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE THERE.

AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY WOULD BE, UH, PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, BUT HAVE NOT ACTUALLY INITIATED SITE PLAN OR SUBDIVISION REVIEWS.

SO, UM, UH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE MARQUEE APARTMENTS, BUT THEY DO HAVE A SITE, UH, A SITE PLAN IN, UM, UH, THE REASON I ASKED YOU IS I WANT MR. SHEPHERD TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT SUBSTANTIATES MY ALLEGATION.

THAT DISTRICT ONE IS SOMETHING AKIN TO GOD'S COUNTRY, AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, AT LEAST THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

TOM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

WELL, YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW AS WELL.

WE LOOKED AT 1990 THAT OCCURRED IN MY DISTRICT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE BOARD ARE YOU RIGHT THERE, SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH HIS NAME, PLEASE? UM, OKAY.

SO THESE ARE THE ELECTION DISTRICTS AS THEY EXIST TODAY.

UH, WE'VE ALSO SHOWN THE EXISTING PRECINCT BOUNDARIES ON, ON THESE MAPS AND POLLING PLACES.

AND THE HATCHED AREAS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP HERE REPRESENT A MIL, UH, MILITARY PROPERTY.

SO BUILDING ON THE EXISTING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, WE'VE COME UP WITH FOUR POSSIBLE SCENARIOS FOR REDRAWING, THE LINES TO ENSURE ALL FIVE DISTRICTS ARE WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE, UH, POPULATION RANGE.

IN ADDITION, ALL THE SCENARIOS KEEP THE INCUMBENT SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS IN THEIR EXISTING DISTRICTS, WHICH IS PERFECTLY LEGALLY ALLOWABLE CRITERIA.

AND TO FOLLOW WHEN INTO REDISTRICTING.

UH, AT THIS POINT WE ARE LOOKING ONLY AT DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND NOT AT THE PRECINCTS OR THE POLLING PLACES.

WE WILL GET TO THAT IN SOME DETAIL LATER ON ONCE WE HAVE SOME CLARITY, UH, BOTH AT THE STATE LEVEL AND AS WELL AS DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD, AS FAR AS WHICH OF THESE, IF ANY OF THESE SCENARIOS, UH, YOU ALL WANT TO EXPLORE FURTHER, UH, THE SCENARIOS ARE ARRANGED SEQUENTIALLY, UH, SO THAT, UH, THE FIRST ONE SHIFTS A FEW AS RESIDENTS AND, AND EACH SUBSEQUENT SCENARIO BUILDS ON THE CHANGES SHOWN ON THE MAP THAT PROCEEDED IT.

SO, UH, SCENARIO ONE, BRING IT UP HERE.

UM,

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WE KNOW THAT DISTRICT ONE IS TOO LARGE AND THE ONLY ADJACENT DISTRICT IS DISTRICT THREE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO MOVE RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT ONE TO THREE.

SO IN THIS SCENARIO, LET ME JUST GO BACK SO YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ERIC AREA BETWEEN, UH, THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION AND OLD WOUNDS BERG ROAD, THAT A LITTLE YELLOW, UH, ERA AREA THAT GOES FROM ORANGE TO YELLOW, UH, THAT CONSISTS OF THE RIVERWALK TOWNS DEVELOPMENT AND THE WOODS AT YORKTOWN APARTMENTS IN THIS SCENARIO THAT WOULD SHIFT FROM DISTRICT ONE TO DISTRICT THREE.

NOW THAT ONE CHANGE IS ENOUGH TO GET THE DISTRICT ONE POPULATION DOWN TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

UNFORTUNATELY, AS I SAID, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT A DISTRICT THREE IS TOO LARGE, EVEN WITHOUT THIS SHIFT.

SO SOME RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE SHIFTED FROM DISTRICT THREE INTO DISTRICTS TWO AND FOUR.

SO IN THIS SCENARIO, LET ME GO BACK SO YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK, SORRY, LET ME SHOW IT AGAIN HERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, UH, BOUNDARY BETWEEN TWO AND THREE IN THIS SCENARIO, UH, WE SHIFTED FROM DENBY BOULEVARD UP TO THE CSX RAILROAD TRACKS, UH, WHICH WOULD SHIFT, UH, WHITES ROAD, FAULKNER ROAD, TERRIBLE ON ROAD FROM DISTRICT THREE TO DISTRICT TWO ALSO.

AND I'LL JUST GO BACK SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA, UH, THERE OFF OF BURT'S ROAD, ORIANA ROAD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT FOUR, UH, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, UH, THOUGH THAT AREA BOUNDED BY, BY BERT'S ROAD, ROUTE 17 AND HOWARD FROM MILLBROOK RESERVOIR, UH, WOULD SHIFT FROM DISTRICT FOUR TO DISTRICT TWO, THAT'S CLUED TO QUAIL HOLLOW MINI MEADOWVIEW DRIVE.

AND THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR MOBILE HOME PARKS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE IN THIS SCENARIO, AS I MENTIONED, DISTRICT THREE IS STILL TOO BIG.

AND SO WHAT WE DO IN THIS SCENARIO IS WE, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU CONCENTRATED ON AN AREA BETWEEN GOODWIN, NECK ROAD AND WOLF TRAP ROADS, CURRENTLY DISTRICT THREE, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, IT WOULD GO TO DISTRICT FOUR.

AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, WILLOW LAKES, ACRES, UH, ROSEWOOD COOPER'S LANDING, BASICALLY THAT WHOLE AREA BOUNDED BY GO TO A NECK ROAD, WOLF TRAP ROAD, AND, UH, ROUTE 17TH, UH, QUICK QUESTION, THE RED DASH LINES AND THE RED TRIANGLES ON THESE MAPS, THE TRACK TRIANGLES OF THE POLLING PLACES AND THE RED DASH LINES ARE THE EXISTING PRECINCT BOUNDARIES.

OKAY.

LIKE I SAID, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE PRECINCT LINES AT OKAY.

THAT'LL COME LATER.

OKAY.

I GOT YOU.

THANKS.

SO A SCENARIO, THE NEXT SCENARIO, SCENARIO TWO IS JUST A VERY MINOR TWEAK OF SCENARIO ONE.

AND IF YOU CONCENTRATE ON THAT AREA BETWEEN, UH, DISTRICT, UH, UH, UH, TWO AND THREE, WHERE WE MOVED THE BOUNDARY UP TO CSX RAIL SPUR, UH, WHAT WE DO IN SCENARIO TWO IS MOVE IT EVEN FURTHER UP TO FORT EUSTIS BOULEVARD.

AND THAT MOVES SORTA THAT FAULT MULTI-FAMILY AREA.

WHAT TOWN BORDERS, CORNERS THAT YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTERPARTS OF DEVELOPMENTS MOVES, UH, UH, THAT AREA FROM DISTRICT THREE INTO DISTRICT TWO, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS SCENARIO STAYS AS IT WAS UNDER SCENARIO ONE.

UM, THE MAIN ADVANTAGE OF THIS CHANGE IS THAT IT PROVIDES MORE ROOM FOR DISTRICT THREE, UH, TO GROW IN POPULATION.

IT PROVIDES SOME CUSHION, UH, BY REDUCING THE POPULATION OF DISTRICT THREE.

UM, AND THE DISADVANTAGE WOULD BE THAT IT SHIFTS MORE PEOPLE ABOUT 600 MORE PEOPLE THAN SCENARIO ONE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED IT, BUT ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF A DISTRICT OF SCENARIO ONE IS THAT, UH, IT, UH, IT SHIFTS THE FEWEST NUMBER OF RESIDENTS FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER, UH, ALSO, UH, OF THE FOUR SCENARIOS HERE.

UH, IT PROVIDES THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COMPACTNESS AND CONTIGUITY, WHICH ARE, UH, CRITERIA THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWED WHEN YOU'RE REDRAWING THE ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

SO, UH, MOVING TO SCENARIO THREE, IF YOU CONCENTRATE ON THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION, UH, WHAT WE DO HERE IS WE, UH, EXTEND DISTRICT THREE INTO THE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION, MOVING THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UH, HOUSING, UH, OVER THERE ON THE BASE FROM DISTRICT ONE TO DISTRICT THREE, THAT'S ABOUT 128 RESIDENTS.

SO THAT THE YELLOW AREA THAT YOU SEE GOING INTO THE WEAPONS STATION, UH, IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THIS PROVIDES AT LEAST SOME CUSHION TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE PROJECTED GROWTH IN DISTRICT ONE, NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT AT LEAST SOME, UM, WE DIDN'T CREATE A SEPARATE MAP FOR IT, BUT ANOTHER VERSION OF THIS SCENARIO WOULD LEAVE THOSE MULTI-FAMILY AREAS THAT

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I MENTIONED WITH 10 QUARTERS QUARTERS, YOUR COUNTY, YOUR, UH, YOUR, OF ARCH, UH, UH, WE LEAVE THEM IN DISTRICT THREE, RATHER THAN SHIFTING THEM TO DISTRICT TWO.

THE NUMBERS WOULD STILL WORK IF WE DID TIM, I UNDERSTAND THE DARK BROWN HASH MARCHES IS THE WEAPONS STATION.

CORRECT.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HASH MARKS ARE NOW SHOWING UP ON THE UPPER LEFT OF A DISTRICT? ONE UPPER LEFT IS CAMP THEORY.

ALL THEY HATCHED AREAS ARE OUR MILITARY PROPERTIES.

SO THE COAST GUARD BASE LANDINGS AT LANGLEY, THEIR POPULATIONS THOUGH, IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ON THE MILITARY BASE, IT'S STILL COUNT TOWARDS OUR NUMBERS, RIGHT? YES.

CORRECT.

UH, SO YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOTAL POPULATION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT VOTERS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT VOTING AGE POPULATION, NOT TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS, EVERYBODY WHO IS COUNTED IN THE CENSUS.

UH, SO IN THE FINAL SCENARIO, SCENARIO FOUR, WE MOVE THE ENTIRE NAVAL WEAPONS STATION INTO DISTRICTS FROM DISTRICT ONE INTO DISTRICT THREE, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF BETWEEN A WEAPONS STATION AND PENTAGON ROAD.

SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THERE IS BASICALLY MARQUIS HILLS, UM, THE, UH, UH, SOME, SOME FUTURE PROJECTS, THE, UH, UH, THE MARQUEE APARTMENTS, UH, THE WOODS THAT KING, UH, KINGS CREEK, UH, SPRINGFIELD ROAD ROAD AREA, ALL OF THAT UNDER THIS SCENARIO, UH, WOULD MOVE FROM A DISTRICT ONE INTO DISTRICT THREE.

THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS SCENARIO IS IT PROVIDES THE BIGGEST CUSHION TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, AS I SAY, UH, BETWEEN WHAT'S LEFT IN, UH, IN MARQUEE TO BE DEVELOPED IN MARQUEE HILLS, PLUS THE MARQUEE APARTMENTS, PLUS THE WOODS AT KINGS CREEK, THAT'S 550 UNITS, FUTURE UNITS IN THE PIPELINE THAT WOULD SHIFT FROM DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT THREE.

UH, ANOTHER ADVANTAGE IS THAT OF THE FOUR SCENARIOS SCENARIO FOUR PROVIDES FOR THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF NUMERICAL EQUALITY.

UH, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE BARS, UH, IN THE BAR CHARTS OF THE FORCE SCENARIOS, THIS PROVIDES FOR, UH, THE MOST EVENNESS ACROSS THE FIVE, UH, ELECTION DISTRICT, JUST ONE OTHER SORT OF SUB SCENARIO, UH, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF FUTURE GROWTH, POTENTIAL.

UH, THERE WAS ONE SMALL SHIFT THAT COULD BE MADE BETWEEN DISTRICTS TWO AND FIVE TO GET DISTRICT FIVE UP CLOSER TO THAT HIGHER, HIGHER END OF THE, UH, UH, OF THE RANGE.

AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA OUTLINED WITH THE BLACK, UH, AND BLACK THERE, AND THAT WOULD BE JUST SORT OF A FLIP-FLOP, UH, THE BELMONT APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT FIVE OFF 1 34, UH, SHIFT THAT AREA, THAT PROJECT INTO DISTRICT TWO.

AND, UH, THEN TWO, AND THEN YOU WOULD SHIFT A PORTION AND AN ADDITIONAL PORTION OF BETHEL MEN, OR THE LANDINGS AT LANGLEY, UH, THEN AREA NORTH OF RAPTOR BOULEVARD, UH, FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT FIVE.

AND WHAT YOU DO, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES A, UH, A NET SHIFT OF 700 RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT FIVES.

AS I MENTIONED, DISTRICT FIVE DOWN ALREADY DOWN KIND OF THE LOW END OF THE RANGE, IT'S I THINK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE IN TERMS OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BUILD UP DISTRICT FIVE TO AGAIN, MAINTAIN THAT POPULATION BALANCE.

SO, UH, THOSE ARE THE FOUR SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH AND IT'S BOOSTER.

MORGAN SAID, WE'RE HOPING FOR SOME DIRECTION, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAT YOU, THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE TO SEE IF THEY'RE FEASIBLE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KRAUSE, MR. ZAREMBA, UM, YOUR, YOUR FOUR CHARTS OR DIAGRAMS REFLECTED, UH, BOTH ACTUAL LIVING PEOPLE AND PROGRAM, ANY CHANCE TO GET, UH, BY DISTRICT, UH, THE NUMBERS OF PIPELINE RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, I KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL POPULATION IS LIVING AND BREATHING.

WHAT CAN YOU DISTRIBUTE ACROSS THE FIVE DISTRICTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE PIPELINE, THIS INCLUDE ALL THOSE DIAGRAMS SHOWED THE PIPELINE.

SOME WERE ALONG THE PIPELINE.

YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHAT THAT PIPELINE IS BY DISTRICT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOUSEHOLD SIZE FOR DIFFERENT

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PROJECTS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS, BUT WE COULD AT LEAST COME UP WITH ROUGH ESTIMATES.

YES, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE AT? ARE YOU ASKING US TO DO THAT AS YOU CAN, RIGHT.

MR. RON, YOU CAN WE GET ELECTRONIC COPIES OF THE MAP SO I CAN ZOOM IN ON DETAILS? OH, SURE.

THANKS, MR. SHEPHERD.

YEAH.

SQUARES DINNER, UH, 0.2 AND FIVE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THEY JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE APPEARS TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN BETHEL HOUSING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S A, THE PART THAT WOULD MOVE, UH, INTO DISTRICT FIVE IS, IS THAT AREA OF, UH, BESSEL MEN ARE NORTH OF RAPTOR BOULEVARD, EAST SIDE OF THE BIG BETHEL.

ALL RIGHT, SO YOU, NO MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CROSS.

THANK YOU

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WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, REDEEMER WAY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC SEWER EXTENSION AGREEMENTS, VICTORY AND TAB ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND JOINT BASE LANGLEY EUSTIS, NUMBER FIVE, PURCHASE AUTHORIZATIONS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND BIO MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.

SHOULD WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT, NUMBER SIX, PURCHASE AUTHORIZATIONS TO REPLACE MEDICAL UNIT STRETCHERS AND A STAIR CHAIRS.

NUMBER SEVEN, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES BUILDING ADDITIONS, NUMBER EIGHT, UH, THE RETIRING EMPLOYEES AND ANOTHER RETIRING EMPLOY.

SO, UH, NUMBER FOUR, I SEE THE CHIEF IS HERE, GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT AND NUMBER SEVEN THERE ENGINEERING SERVICES TOUCH ON FIVE AND SIX, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SHEPHERD, YOU HAVE ANY CHIEF, IF YOU COULD TALK TO US ABOUT ITEM FOUR.

YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, THE COUNTY MAINTAINS FIRE AND RESCUE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT FIRE AND RESCUE AGENCY IN HAMPTON ROADS.

ADDITIONALLY, AS WITH TONIGHT'S ACTION, WE ALSO MAINTAIN MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS WITH LOCAL MILITARY BASES.

PRIMARILY THOSE THAT, THAT BORDER OR CLOSE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOUR COUNTY MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESPONSE RESOURCES WHEN OUR RESOURCES ARE EITHER EXHAUSTED OR STRAINED.

AND IN SOME CASES, MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS PROVIDE THE ABILITY FOR AUTOMATIC AID RESPONSES.

AND OFTEN WE SEE THAT IN THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG AREA WHERE IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO IGNORE JURISDICTIONAL LINES AND RESPOND.

THE CLOSEST UNITS.

TONIGHT'S ACTION IS A TYPICAL HOUSEKEEPING, UH, MEASURE, AND IT IS THE CASE.

UH, AND IN THIS CASE, THE EXISTING AGREEMENT AGREEMENT WITH FORT USES JUST REQUIRES RENEWAL.

OKAY.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PURCHASE AUTHORIZATION, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND THE BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, THE FIRST ONE, THE, UM, BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENTS, THESE ARE THE AED UNITS, RIGHT? THESE ARE OTHER DEVICES.

SO IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS, IT INCLUDES A VARIETY OF EQUIPMENT.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S A PORTION OF OUR BIOMEDICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE A LIFEPAK 15 CARDIAC MONITOR DEFIBRILLATORS.

SO THESE WERE THE, UH, I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT, THESE ARE THE HEAVY LIFTERS THAT, THAT ALLOW OUR PARAMEDICS TO DO A LOT OF INVASIVE MANEUVERS.

AND IT'S, THEY'RE MUCH MORE, UH, UH, UH, SOPHISTICATED THAN YOUR TYPICAL AUTOMATIC EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATOR.

THEY'RE FULL FUNCTION OF THE FABRICATORS AND THE CARDIAC MONITORS.

SO THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE AMBULANCES AND THE OTHER RESCUE UNITS.

OKAY.

THEY ARE REQUIRED FOR ANY PERMITTED, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, UH, UH, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

HOW MANY ARE WE LOOKING TO PURCHASE HERE? I BELIEVE THERE ARE THESE, THESE ARE REPLACEMENT UNITS AND THEY GET REPLACED.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU GO INTO AN EMERGENCY ROOM AND YOU'RE GETTING MONITORED IN THE HOSPITAL AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THEY'RE ON A MEDIC UNITS.

AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THERE IT'S 21 OF THE UNITS, UH, AS I RECALL, 21.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S IN OUR INVENTORY, OR THIS IS THE PORTION WE WERE REPLACING A PORTION.

THESE ARE ALL THAT, THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT INVENTORY OF, UH, ON EVERYTHING FROM MEDIC UNITS TO FIRE PUMPERS THAT RESPOND WHEN MEDIC UNITS AREN'T AVAILABLE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO WE'RE DOING A FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE CARDIAC MONITORS, UM, AND THE CUFFS, THE OLD ONES REACHING THE SERVICE LIFE FOR IT IS CORRECT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MUCH LIKE A COMPUTER, BUT THEY'RE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE MAINTAINING THE EQUIPMENT

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AND I'LL RELIABLE FASHION, AND THAT IT WORKS WHEN YOU PUT THOSE, UH, DEFIBRILLATOR PADS ON SOMEONE TO MONITOR THE HEART RHYTHM AND THAT SORT OF THING.

RIGHT.

WHAT IS THE LIFE CYCLE ON THESE? UH, THEY'RE USUALLY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND LIKEWISE, WITH THE STRETCHERS, I THINK THERE WAS ACTUALLY A KIND OF TALL THAT, UM, YOU WERE LOOKING TO, UH, BELIEVE THERE ARE, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 10 OF THOSE UNITS.

THERE ARE NON-PATIENT STRETCHERS OR NINE STAIR CHAIRS.

OKAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THOSE ARE THE RE THE STRETCHERS THAT ARE A PART OF ARE TRANSPORTING PATIENTS IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE.

AND THAT SORT OF THING.

IN ADDITION, THERE'S ONE BARIATRIC STRETCHER FOR, UH, PATIENTS THAT MAY, UH, WEIGH MUCH MORE.

AND SO WE CAN EFFECTIVELY TAKE CARE OF THEM AND SAY IT MANNER.

THIS ALSO REPLACING ALL OF INVENTORY, IT JUST A PORTION.

OKAY.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A LIFE CYCLE ISSUE, TYPICALLY TYPICALLY ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE COMPANY HAS TAKEN THE OLD ONES BACK FOR A LITTLE BIT, IF A CREDIT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE.

AND THAT IS ALSO THE SAME WITH THE, UH, WITH THE MONITORING, THE FABIAN, WE GET SOME CREDIT FOR THE OLD EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND OKAY.

ARE THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO NUMBER SEVEN.

AND THE BUILDING ADDITIONS, UH, MR. ZIMMERMAN, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

UM, I GUESS FIRST OF ALL, MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, WAS THAT A, UH, CONTRACT COMPETITIVE CONTRACT OR SOLE SOURCE? UH, WELL, IT'S A STANDARD ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES, WHICH IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS CALLED COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION UNDER THE LAW.

SO THE COUNTY ISSUED AN RFP AND SEVERAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS, THE PUMPS DISPOSAL COMMITTEE, AND DIG IS UP IN MCAULIFFE CIRCLE.

RIGHT, BUDDY? RIGHT.

THE NEIGHBOR NEARBY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, ANY IDEA WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THESE ADDITIONS? UH, UM, WELL, YEAH.

UM, SO, UH, THE DESIGN WORK, WE WOULD HOPE TO BASICALLY COMPLETE, UH, BY EARLY IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, LET'S SAY BY SUMMER.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BID, UH, THE RENOVATION AND CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT WOULD MOVE THE BUILDING SAFETY.

SO IT'S A COMPLEX ON GOODWILL NET ROAD.

YES.

YES.

SO MAYBE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS TIME, NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

AND WHAT THE ADDITIONS, IS IT JUST CONNECTIONS IN OVER, WELL, NO, IT'S THE, IT'S THE SPACE FOR BUILDING SAFETY.

THE BUILDING INSPECTORS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN A BUILDING OVER CLOSER TO PUBLIC WORKS, THEY WOULD MOVE THERE.

SO ALL OF THE DIVISIONS OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD BE IN A SINGLE BUILDING.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ADVANTAGES AND THE SUPERVISORY ADVANTAGES OF HAVING THEM TOGETHER, IT FREES UP THE CURRENT BUILDING, WHICH IS WHERE WE WOULD CONSOLIDATE IT.

UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TOO.

IS THAT FOR THE MOST PART MARKS PEOPLE? UH, IT, UH, THE BUILDING.

OH, UH, YEAH.

TH YES, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SUSAN CASTLE IS THE DIRECTOR AND THEY REPORT TOMORROW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, MR. RAMBO, I'LL MOVE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

MADAM CLERK, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SARABAH AS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA.

YES.

MR. ROAN.

YES.

MR. SHEPHERD, MR. GREEN.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE

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GOING TO MOVE INTO OPEN DISCUSSION AND MR. , I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? I DO HAVE SOMETHING MORE TO SHARE WITH YOU.

UH, LAST NIGHT, I, I, UH, WITNESSED A, A ZOOM MEETING AND THE HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UM, OUR UPPER COUNTY DELEGATE, BRENDA, AND, UH, AMANDA, AMANDA, UH, THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE BY A VERY ARTICULATE GUY BY THE NAME OF A WHOLE LOT.

AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THE TWO BILLS THAT, UH, THE AMENDMENT TEAM HAS PUT TOGETHER.

THEY'VE SUBMITTED IT TO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ON THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TO

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BE ADDRESSED UNDER THE NEW GOVERNORS, UH, TEAM WHEN THEY COME IN IN JANUARY.

AND, UH, BASICALLY THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONE, I THINK THE BIGGER THAN PICK PACK, I CALLED IT THE ANTI CRITICAL RACE THEORY BILL.

THE SECOND BILL WAS, UH, RELATED TO, UH, CULTURAL COMPETENCE AND THE COPA, THE CULTURAL COMPETENCE TRAINING THAT OUR TEACHERS HAVE GOT TO GO THROUGH IF THEY EXPECT TO TEACH NEW ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

UH, I'LL TAKE THE EGO ON FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, THE CULTURAL COMPETENCE BILL, IF HE PASSES, RIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SPLIT IS BETWEEN BLUE AND RED, UH, INDIVIDUALS UP THERE.

BUT IF IT PASSES WILL BASICALLY KILL THE REQUIREMENT FOR TEACHERS TO TAKE ANY CULTURAL COMPETENCE, SUCH AS THE TRAINING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO.

NOW, UH, THE LARGER IMPACT I THINK, IS THAT, UM, AND THE FIRST THING HE DID, HE SAYS, TRYING TO DEFINE CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS VERY DIFFICULT.

SO HE DEFINED THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT HE CALLED CORE PRINCIPLES OF WHAT THIS BILL IS ALL ABOUT.

RIGHT? AND I MADE SOME NOTES.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THEM.

IT SAYS OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THIS IS PART OF THE BILL.

ANTI-TRUMP A CRITICAL RACE THEORY.

OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SHELL NOT TRAIN TEACH, OR PROMOTE TO STUDENTS OR EMPLOYEES, THE FOLLOWING SIX, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? CORE PRINCIPLES OF THIS BILL.

AND I'M GOING TO READ MOST OF THEM TO YOU.

THE FIRST IS THAT ANY RACE IS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE DIGITAL TOPICS THAT WILL NOT BE INTRODUCED TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

FIRST, BEING THAT ANY RACE IS INHERENTLY SUPERIOR OR INFERIOR FOR ANY OTHER RATES COMPARED TO ANY OTHER RACE.

THE SECOND PRINCIPLE IS THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL BY VIRTUE OF RACE OR SKIN COLOR IS INHERENTLY RACIST, PRIVILEGED, OR OPPRESSIVE, NO, THERE IS A BILL TO SAY, NONE OF THAT, STUFF'S GOING TO BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS.

THE THIRD IS THAT ANY PERSON BY VIRTUE OF RACE OR RELIGION BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ACTIONS COMMITTED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF HIS RACE OR RELIGION.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I GOT TO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN THIS GENERATION AND OF COURSE OUR FOREFATHERS CAME TO THIS COUNTRY MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND WHATEVER THEY'RE THERE, THESE WERE WILL NOT BE CAST UPON US THROUGH THIS BILL.

OKAY.

THE FOURTH IS, UH, THAT A PERSON'S MORAL CHARACTER IS, IS NOT TO BE DEFINED BY HIS RACE.

THE FIFTH IS THE NET.

AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WILL NOT BE TAUGHT THAT THE US IS FUNDAMENTALLY OR SYSTEMICALLY A RACIST COUNTRY.

AND FINALLY, WHAT WON'T BE TOLD IS THAT CAPITALISM ISN'T INHERENTLY RACIST ECONOMIC SYSTEM.

SO THESE SIX CORE PRINCIPLES ARE, OR ARE BASICALLY THE CORE OF THIS BILL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED.

UH, AMANDA BATT IS ONE OF SEVERAL OF THE PROPONENTS FORWARD, AND SHE HAS A TEAM OF PEOPLE, VERY, I GUESS, ARTICULATE PEOPLE IN ANY EVENT.

I THINK THE LEAD ON THAT IS MR. PAUL LA.

UH, AND, UH, IT WAS AN INTERESTING WEAPON.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WATCHED IT LAST NIGHT, IT WAS SORT OF ADVERTISED.

YES, NOPE.

OTHERWISE, OKAY.

SO MY, MY TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS OF COURSE, WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU TONIGHT THAT UNDER THE, UNDER THE NEW GOVERNORSHIP AND BASED, I THINK LARGE PART ON HIS VERBAL COMMITMENT TO ENSURE THAT ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS EXCISED FROM THE YORK COUNTY K THROUGH 12, AND TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

AND OF COURSE YOU'LL BE DEBATES IT'LL FINALLY BE DEVOTED.

AND MR. UH, LOT AND SPOKEN FOR AMANDA WAS NO URGENT, URGENT, URGENT OF COURSE, PEOPLE TO WAKE UP AND SUPPORT THE BILL.

BUT I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TONIGHT.

OKAY.

WAS REFLECTS IT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE WENT THROUGH FOR TWO MONTHS, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH WITH RESPECT TO THE RESOLUTION BY THANK YOU, MR. , MR. ROME.

I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD, YOU KNOW, UM, ONE THING THAT, UH, I DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, LET GO, UH, UH, NOTICE WAS THAT WE, WE, UH, IN NOVEMBER WE REACHED A MILESTONE IN OUR, UH, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND IF YOU RECALL BACK IN 2015, UH, WE FINALLY REACHED A POINT WHERE WE WERE BAKED, UH, BREAK GROUND AND START THE WIDENING OF , UH, FROM BASICALLY

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FROM THE JEFFERSON ALL THE WAY UP TOWARDS LIGHTFOOT AREA.

AND, UM, AND THE PROJECT, UH, I JUST, AT THAT TIME SEEMED LIKE, WOW, IT WAS A SIGH OF RELIEF.

WE ACTUALLY REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE COULD START BUILDING THESE THINGS.

AND, UH, IN NOVEMBER WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE THREE PHASES, UH, THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR .

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T TRAVELED UP THROUGH THERE, IT GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

NOW GO UP, THERE IS SO MUCH EASIER AND, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF IMAGINATION OR MEMORY, UH, TO THINK BACK TO THE TIME WHEN 17 WAS BEING WIDENED.

AND THEN THE GRIEF THAT, THAT CAUSED EVERYBODY AND THAT GOT DONE WELL, 6 64 IS OUR, UH, FRONT DOOR, IF YOU WILL, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET FROM THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES THROUGH, UH, ON THE ROAD TO THE HAMPTON ROADS.

SO WE'VE GOT A PROJECT WE'RE STILL GOT UP AS WE'RE GOING TO STILL HAVE TO WORK ON SOMEHOW.

AND IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT IS GOING TO DO THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET FUNDS TO FILL THAT GAP.

THAT'S, UH, FROM, UH, FROM RICHMOND, UH, OF, TO WHERE WE WE'VE STOPPED OUR PART, UH, FINISHED OUR PART IN 60, UH, 64.

AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT A 21 MILE GAP THERE THAT GOTTA BE COMPLETED.

AND IT'S, UM, UM, THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT A, WE BUILT THE HOUSE, WE BUILD THE ENTRY.

NOW WE JUST GOTTA BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET TO TRAIL, GET DOWN THERE.

UM, SO THAT'S A MAJOR MILESTONE AND THE PEOPLE OF HAMPTON ROADS ARE THE ONES PRETTY MUCH THAT DID ALL THIS.

OKAY.

THERE WAS SOME MONEY FROM THE STATE, THEY KICK-STARTED, THE PROJECT GOT A HUNDRED MILLION.

UM, BUT WHEN WE GET THROUGH, UH, THE TOTAL PROJECT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL INCLUDE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE INTERCHANGE AT FORT EUSTIS.

THAT'LL BE PRETTY CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS WILL HAVE BEEN SPENT ON JUST THAT SEGMENT.

SO THAT'S QUITE, QUITE, UH, UH, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE, UH, GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.

AND THE SHOW THAT WE CAN WORK AS A REGION TO GET THAT, TO GET THE PROJECT COMPLETED.

NOW, THE HAMPTON ROADS BRIDGE TUNNEL, UM, THE BORING MACHINE HAS GOT A NAME IT'S CALLED MARY, AND IT HAS, IT HAS ARRIVED IN PIECES.

SO, SO IT'S LIKE HAVING THE ROBOT LAYING OUT ON THE PORT DECK AND IT JUST HAS TO BE PUT TOGETHER AND, UH, AND THEN BROUGHT OVER AND IT'LL START THE BORING.

AND THAT PROCESS SHOULD START PRETTY SOON.

I THINK NEXT YEAR, UM, THE 20, 25 IS WHEN THE TUNNEL WILL BE DONE AND THAT'LL HAPPEN PRETTY, YOU KNOW, JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

THAT TIME GOES BY PRETTY QUICK, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE.

WE'LL HAVE THE 2 95 64 INTERCHANGE OVER IN VIRGINIA BEACH TO HIGH RISE BRIDGE.

UH, PHASES WILL BE A NEW BRIDGE DONE THERE.

AND WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH THIS, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $8.5 BILLION WORTH OF FUNDING ABOUT 96 TO 97% OF ALL THAT REVENUE IS COMING FROM HAMPTON ROADS.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE PAYING FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD.

AND FINALLY, DECEMBER 7TH, 1941 ALMOST 80 YEARS AGO, UH, WAS A VERY SOMBER DAY IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

AND I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE TODAY AND REMEMBER THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LOST THAT DAY AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LOST IN WARS AND CONFLICTS SINCE THEN.

AND WITH THAT,

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I'LL ASK MR. SHEPHERD TO TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION AND ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 37 11, A ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA MOVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENIENT, CLOSED MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING APPOINTMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSION CLERK, PROMOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

MR. ROAN, MR. SHAPPER, MR. ZAREMBA, MR. GREEN.

YES.

MOTION CARRIED.

WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION.