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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 5TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING THIS TIME.
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING MR. TIM CROSS TO COME UP AND GIVE US LEAD US IN INVOCATION, PLEASE.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. MORGAN, MR. BARNETT, I INVITE YOU ALL TO BOW YOUR HEADS AND JOIN ME IN PRAYER.
DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US SAFELY TO THIS PLACE INTO THIS HOUR AND FOR ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS, LARGE AND SMALL THAT YOU HAVE GENEROUSLY BESTOWED UPON US.
WE PRAY FOR YOUR BLESSING OVER THESE PROCEEDINGS AND ON THE COUNTY LEADERS GATHERED HERE THAT THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE WOULD BE GUIDED BY WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND ITS DESIRE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.
WE PRAY THESE THINGS IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
THIS TIME PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, MR. ROWAN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE APPLIED TO
MR. GREEN, MR. RON, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
[A Jamestown Yorktown Foundation.]
PRESENTATIONS AND I'D LIKE TO CALL ON CHRISTY COLEMAN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE J OF THE JAMES YORKTOWN FOUNDATION.OH, VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND TO TALK WITH YOU IN PERSON.
I'VE BEEN NOW THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN FOUNDATION FOR ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS.
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE AFTER MY FIRST SIX WEEKS IN THE JOB, BOOM.
UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WE USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ASSESS THE WORK THAT WE DO AT BOTH OF OUR MUSEUM SITES.
WE HAVE SPENT TIME THINKING STRATEGICALLY ABOUT OUR FUTURE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR AUDIENCES.
BOTH THOSE 70% THAT COME FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO VISIT OUR SITE AT JAMESTOWN SETTLEMENT, AS WELL AS HERE IN YORKTOWN.
UM, AND WE HAVE DECIDED, UM, FROM SAFETY POINT OF VIEW THAT WE WILL SUSPEND, WE HAVE SUSPENDED OUR IN-CLASS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF IN-SCHOOL SERVICE FOR TEACHERS AND FOR CHILDREN SERVING OVER 250,000 CHILDREN IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
UM, MANY OF THEM, OF COURSE, WE SERVE YOUR COUNTY, WHICH I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I AM A GRADUATE.
UM, IF YOU DID KNOW, YES, I WENT TO MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY, WALTER MILL ELEMENTARY QUEENS LAKE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL PROUD GRADUATES.
I KNOW IT WELL, I KNOW THE PEOPLE AND I AM HERE TO SERVE, AND I WANT TO ONE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE TO THANK YOUR COUNTY FOR YOUR CONTINUING SUPPORT OF THE JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN FOUNDATION, IT IS CRITICAL.
AND I WILL ALSO LET YOU KNOW THAT SINCE WE DID REOPEN TO THE PUBLIC LAST JUNE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TAKING ALL OF THE NECESSARY PROTOCOLS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR STAFF AND THE SAFETY OF OUR VISITORS.
UM, WE ACTUALLY FINISHED OUR FISCAL YEAR LAST YEAR AHEAD OF OUR REVISED PROJECTIONS, SIGNIFICANTLY AHEAD, UM, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH WE ROLLED OVER INTO THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY AS WE SAW, UM, DELTA VARIANTS, STARTING TO RISE, EXCUSE ME.
AND EVEN WITH THAT WORK WE ARE SEEING, UM, THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER WE HAVE SEEN CONTINUED GROWTH IN OUR AUDIENCES.
WE HAVE COMPLETELY REDONE OUR MARKETING PLAN AND YOU WILL SEE NEW WEBSITES AND OTHER THINGS COMING FROM US EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY.
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YEARS, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT IT IS TIME TO RETIRE.UM, MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, BUT IT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE SHARE IN COMMON, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA WHERE, FROM OUR FOUNDING, UH, THAT THE STORIES THAT WE TELL OF THE FOUNDING OF THE NATION AT JAMESTOWN IN 1607 TO THE BATTLES TO DEVELOP THAT NATION HERE IN 1781, OUR ORGANIZATION IS PRIMED AND READY FOR THE FUTURE AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU.
SO IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WITH US IN A WHILE, I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU COME, IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT IT OR HAVE VISITORS COMING, YOU NEED TO TELL THEM TO COME AND VISIT US.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT GREATLY AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A POWERPOINT FOR YOU THE NEXT TIME WHEN I HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES TO SHARE, BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, MS. COLEMAN, JUST, UH, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S JUST ONE, ONE QUICK COMMENT.
AND IF YOU CAN, I'M GOING TO TEE THIS UP FOR YOU, UH, RESIDENTS OF YORK COUNTY, UH, WHAT IS THE CHARGE FOR THEM, UH, VISITING, UH, THE JAMESTOWN YORKTOWN RESIDENTS OF YORK COUNTY, GET INTO OUR MUSEUMS FOR FREE.
GET IN FOR FREE AT BOTH MUSEUMS, NOT JUST THE ONE YEAR IN NEW YORK.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.
I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW NICE IT IS TO HAVE A HOME GROWN GIRL IN CHARGE OF MUSEUM.
WHEN THE WEATHER CHANGES AND COVID GOES AWAY.
MR. NORMAN ATTORNEY, I WOULD RUMBA.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, WHOSE DAUGHTER I AM.
LIZ MONTGOMERY, LIZ MONTGOMERY ON HUBBARD LANE.
AND I'LL WRITE DOWN RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
MR. ROMAN, ANYTHING I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT JUST ONE ATTRACTION.
WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? IT'S LIKE ASKING ME ABOUT THE BABIES.
UM, IF YOU HAD ONE ATTRACTION THAT YOU WOULD VISIT, WHERE SHOULD I START? WHERE SHOULD YOU START? WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO SAY JAMESTOWN.
RIGHT? UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
I MEAN, OUR, OUR MISSION AS AN ORGANIZATION IS, IS QUITE SIMPLE.
WE TELL THE STORY OF THE CONVERGENCE OF CULTURES THAT ARRIVED HERE IN VIRGINIA, THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES, ENGLISH, AND THE ARRIVAL OF THE AFRICANS.
AND THE STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED AT JAMESTOWN WILL INFLUENCE WHAT HAPPENS BY 1780.
SO IF YOU WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, I WOULD SAY START THERE.
IT'S BEEN OVER A DECADE SINCE THE VISIT.
YOU ALSO, GOODNESS, THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
THERE IS A LOT THAT'S CHANGED SINCE THEN.
THAT'S WHY ALL MEANS WE STILL HAVE THE SHIPS.
I ENJOYED WALKING, ALTHOUGH THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
WE STILL HAVE THE SHIPS AND MS. COLEMAN AGAIN, WHAT IS THE PRICE FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS?
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON KATIE
[B Virginia Association of Counties Achievement Award.]
BOYLE FROM THE, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS FOR THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
AND CHIEF, IF YOU COULD COME AND NEIL, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD.
UH, SO, UH, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. MORGAN, MR. BURNETT.
SO AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS KATIE BOYLE.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
I'M SO PLEASED TO BE BACK IN YOUR COUNTY TO PRESENT YOU ALL WITH A VACO ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
SO JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT VACO, FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME, UH, WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1934, UH, TO SERVE AND SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS AS COUNTY OFFICIALS, WE SUPPORT COUNTIES THROUGH OUR ADVOCACY WORK OR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, OUR MEMBER SERVICES AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS.
SO THIS IS OUR 19TH ANNUAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS.
UH, THIS PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2003 AND IT RECOGNIZES COUNTIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO PROVIDING PUBLIC SERVICES AND ALSO IDENTIFY AS PROGRAMS
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THAT COULD SERVE AS MODELS FOR OTHER COUNTIES.THIS YEAR, WE RECEIVED 102 ENTRIES AND WE SELECTED ONLY 30 WINNING PROJECTS FROM 19 COUNTIES.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S TRULY A SELECTIVE PROGRAM.
AND SO I'M VERY, VERY PROUD, UH, TO BE HERE TONIGHT, TO PRESENT YOUR COUNTY WITH AN ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FOR THE PENINSULA COVID-19 OPERATION CENTER.
UH, SO THIS IS YOUR COUNTY'S 14TH ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
SO YOU ALL ARE SEVENTH ON THE ALL-TIME LIST OF WINNERS.
YOU'VE WON FOR SIX YEARS IN A ROW.
SO I REALLY WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR, YOUR CONTINUED GREAT WORK.
UM, SO I KNOW, UH, UH, CHIEF KAPCINSKI IS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE A BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM, SO I'LL JUST OFFER MY CONGRATULATIONS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM HAS ALSO BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH BOTH A REGIONAL EMS AWARD AND A GOVERNOR'S EMS AWARD.
UH, ONE OF THE GOALS OF OUR ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS IS TO RECOGNIZE PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE MODELS FOR OTHERS.
AND I KNOW YOUR APPROACH OF PULLING IN YOUR REGIONAL PARTNERS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS A REALLY GREAT TEMPLATE FOR MANAGING CRISES.
THAT CERTAINLY DON'T STOP AT THE COUNTY OR THE CITY LINE.
SO I'M EXTREMELY HONORED TO PRESENT YOU WITH A 20, 21 ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
UM, SO I HAVE A PLAQUE TO PRESENT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT I THINK I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF IF THAT'S OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. BALL AND, AND, AND TO THE BOARD AND TO THE CITIZENS AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY OF THE PENINSULA.
UH, THIS, THIS PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY, UH, INITIATED AS PART OF, UH, AN EFFORT TO DEAL WITH COVID-19, UH, DURING THE EARLY PORTIONS OF COVID-19 IN MARCH.
UH, AND IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN ALL OF THE LOCALITIES IN HAMPTON, ON THE PENINSULA, NEWPORT NEWS, HAMPTON,
SO OUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AWARD IS JUST, UH, ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THOSE LOCALITIES IN THAT THE ENTITIES INVOLVED.
YEAH, I REALLY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS REALLY, UH, THE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY DEPARTMENTS OF THE SIX LOCALITIES THAT TOOK THE LEAD IN ORGANIZING THAT WITH THE GREAT HELP OF OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BE ON THE AWARD TO THANK YOU.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY MORE TO SUPERVISORS AND THE CITIZENS ARE SO PROUD ON THE JOB THAT YOU DO, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS.
AND COULDN'T BE HAPPIER WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PROVIDES.
SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND CONGRATULATE THE PRESENTATION.
[1 Sports Tourism – Historic Triangle.]
MAYOR PONDS AND WHO IS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG AND, UH, THE MR. TREAD, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING? OKAY.AND MR. TRIVETTE, WHO IS THE, UH, CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR WILLIAMSBURG? SO MR. PONDS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT SURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING ME HERE.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN IN THIS CHAMBER, BUT, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY AN HONOR TO BE HERE, TO PRESENT TO YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE AUTHORITY, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY BRING A SPORTS COMPLEX TO THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG AREA.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, MORE, THE ROCKEFELLER SHOWED UP, MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN TOURISM HERE AND CREATED A CLONE OF WILLIAMSBURG.
THE BUSH FAMILY SHOWED UP ABOUT 50 YEARS AFTER THAT AND CREATED BUSH GARDENS AND WATER COUNTRY THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T CREATE WATER COUNTRY, BUT PURCHASED IT.
BUT, UM, NOW THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN A SIGNIFICANT DESTINATION DRIVER.
UM, AND, AND YOU ALL THE COUNTY WAS VERY GENEROUS TO PARTICIPATE IN MANY STUDIES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT SPORTS IS A GOOD WAY TO BRING VISITORS BACK TO WILLIAMSBURG IN A WAY THAT, THAT IN REPRESENT THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG AREA IN A WAY THAT THERE MAY BE UNFAMILIAR WITH.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT YOUR FATHER'S OLD BUICK ANYMORE IN SPORTS.
WE'LL BRING THESE FOLKS TO WILLIAMSBURG, UH, TO THE GREATER WAYNE SPRING BY HABIT.
I SAY WILLIAMSBURG, BUT I THINK ALL OF US WILL SEE MUTUAL BENEFITS FROM IT.
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LOCATION THAT WE'VE HAD SELECTED.BUT WITH ME TODAY, I DO HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER, MR TRIVETTE AND ALSO ROBBIE HUTTON.
WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND WORK, UM, PARKS AND RECS RATHER.
AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. TRIVIA AND THEN HE'S GOT ANOTHER SPEAKER TO FOLLOW HIM, AND THEN COLLECTIVELY, WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR MORGAN.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE FOR A MINUTE.
UM, WE'RE ONLY GONNA SPEAK FOR THREE OR FOUR HOURS, SO, UM, WE SHOULD BE OUT OF YOUR HAIR QUICKLY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF COVER SOME OF THE BASICS OF THIS PROJECT AND, AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE FIND OURSELVES AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER BY THE THREE LOCALITIES WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY COUNTY, NORTH COUNTY, SINCE 2014.
UM, AND IT'S NEVER REALLY GOTTEN TRACTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE INVOLVED AND A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE TRAVEL IN CIRCLES WHEN WE CONSIDERED THIS PROJECT.
SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS REALLY THE PRODUCT OF THE FACT THAT, UM, THE CITY OF WINNSBORO CREATED A GRANT PROGRAM TO AWARD A PORTION OF OUR TOURISM FUNDING.
AND THAT GRANT PROGRAM ELICITED AN APPLICATION FROM THE WITCH BEGGAR WILLIAMSBURG AREA, HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION FOR A REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX.
IT WENT THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESS AND WAS AWARDED FUNDING TO COMMIT TO APPROXIMATELY HALF OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE CONSTRUCTION COST TO BE AN ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE.
AND SO THAT MEANT THAT IT WAS TIME TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT EVALUATING THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG-TERM, UH, LONGEVITY.
AND SO WE FORMED A REGIONAL COMMITTEE THAT WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL HT SAC, THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE SPORTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED THE TWO COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, MYSELF, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTORS OF ALL THREE LOCALITIES AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS FROM ALL THREE LOCALITIES.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT LOCATION AND WE TALKED ABOUT VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE EVALUATED SITES IN WILLIAMSBURG.
UM, WE IDENTIFIED WHAT WE THINK IS THE OBVIOUS BEST CHOICE OF THOSE THAT WE CONSIDERED.
AND THAT IS THE COLONIAL LEESBURG VISITOR CENTER.
AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THAT AT THE AGE OF HAVING A CENTRALIZED LARGE VISITOR CENTER TO WELCOME CUSTOMERS, PROVIDE MAPS AND SELL TICKETS HAS PASSED US BY THE INVENTION OF THE SMARTPHONE, MADE IT SO MUCH EASIER TO GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED BEFORE YOU ARRIVE, FIND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
ONCE YOU GET THERE AND ALSO PURCHASE TICKETS ON DEMAND.
AND SO COLONIAL WINESBURG LOOKS TO DOWNSIZE FROM THAT LARGE FACILITY THAT THEY'VE USED FOR A VERY LONG TIME, WHICH FREES UP ABOUT A HUNDRED ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
AND WE'D LIKE FOR ABOUT 69 ACRES OF THAT TO BE DEDICATED TO VARIOUS OTHER USES ONE OF WHICH MIGHT BE A SPORTS CENTER.
SO WITH THE QUESTION OF WHERE TO BUILD IT ANSWERED, UH, THE COMMITTEE TURNED HIS ATTENTION TO THE, UM, VIABILITY OF IT.
AND TO ANSWER THAT WE HIRED TWO CONSULTANTS.
THE FIRST CONSULTANT IS VICTUS, AND THAT'S WHO WE HAVE HERE WITH US TODAY.
BRIAN CONLEY FROM VIC DIS ADVISORS IS GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR WORK ON ANALYZING BOTH THE MARKET CONDITIONS FOR THIS FACILITY AND ALSO THE ECONOMICS OF IT.
AND THEN TO FOLLOW THEM UP BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A WHOLE HOST OF STUDIES DONE ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WE HIRED HVS, UH, WHO WAS TO COME IN AND DO SORT OF, UH, A HARDER HITTING ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND ALSO VERIFY THE MATH THAT VICTUS WAS USING SO THAT WE COULD FINALLY PUT TO REST THIS QUESTION OF DOES THIS PROJECT MAKE SENSE? AND SO WITH THOSE TWO STUDIES IN HAND, THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE SPORTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE PROCEED TO THE STEP OF PRESENTING THE FORMATIVE DOCUMENTS TO THE BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER ADDING TO YOUR AGENDA.
I BELIEVE IN NOVEMBER, THAT CONSIDERATION OF PARTNERING WITH JAMES CITY COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG IN THE FORMATION OF THE, UM, HISTORIC TRIANGLE RECREATIONAL AUTHORITY.
NOW THAT AUTHORITY WOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNING THE SITE AT THE VISITOR CENTER AND PRIMARILY SEEING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SPORTS FACILITY, ANALYZING ANY OTHER DATA THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE BEFORE FINAL DECISIONS AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS ARE MADE BY ALL THREE LOCALITIES.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CONLEY FROM VICTUS.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME SO MY NAME IS BRIAN CONNOLLY.
I AM, UH, THE MANAGING PRINCIPAL OF VICTUS ADVISORS AS MR. TRIVETTE SAID WE WERE ENGAGED, UH, EARLIER IN 2020 TO DO THE MARKET STUDY, UM, FOR THIS POTENTIAL SPORTS FACILITY
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PROJECT.UM, WE FIRST DID A NEW UPDATED SPORTS FACILITY MARKET STUDY, WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING SPORTS STORES, THE MARKET STUDIES, BUT THEN REALLY FOCUSED ON TAKING A FRESH LOOK, DOING ALL OF OUR OWN RESEARCH AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ULTIMATELY, UM, REGARDING THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT THERE IS AS DEMAND FOR BOTH LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER TASKS THAT INCLUDED, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER A REGIONAL PROGRAMMING PLAN, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPORTS MARKETING AND EVENT MARKETING.
UM, AND THEN WE WORKED WITH HVS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED FROM OUR REPORT TO RUN THEIR ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
BUT THE PRESENTATION I'LL BE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT IS REALLY ON, UH, THE MARKET STUDY AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS STEMMING FROM OUR DEMAND ASSESSMENT.
SO WE STARTED OFF FIRST BY LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDER THE WEEKDAY MARKET.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE LOCAL MARKET.
IT'S THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG.
IT'S YOUR COUNTY, IT'S JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UM, WITHIN ABOUT A 30 MINUTE DRIVE.
THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 280,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT PRIMARY MARKET FOR WEEKDAY USE.
SO THIS IS YOUR MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, PRIMARILY AFTER THREE, 3:00 PM IN THE EVENINGS.
UM, THESE ARE YOUR LOCAL PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN PARKS AND RECREATION TYPE PROGRAMMING, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO MEET, MEET THE DEMAND FOR THOSE FOLKS.
UH, DURING THE WEEK WE TALKED TO QUITE A FEW, UM, LOCAL AND REGIONAL GROUPS JUST TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON, UM, WHAT FACILITIES THEY'RE USING NOW.
UM, HOW LIKELY ARE THEY TO USE A NEW SPORTS CENTER? HOW MANY COURTS WOULD THEY NEED? WHAT DAYS OF THE WEEK? UM, ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, ABOUT DEMAND.
SO WE JUST TALKED TO A, A SAMPLE OF GROUPS.
UM, I BELIEVE WE'D TALKED TO 1, 2, 3 ABOUT 12 OVERALL, UM, JUST TO GET A SENSE FROM THEM ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO, TO OPERATE BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, WRESTLING, UH, VARIOUS TYPES OF PROGRAMMING IN THIS COMMUNITY, UM, AND GET AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE DEMAND WAS FROM THOSE LOCAL GROUPS WITHIN THAT, UH, DRIVE TIME RANGE.
YOU JUST SAW NEXT, WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL THE SPORTS TOURISM MARKET.
SO, UM, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS ADULTS TAKING PART IN, UM, YOU KNOW, ADULT AMATEUR SPORTS TOURNAMENTS, OR IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN THAT, UM, YOU'VE DRIVEN ALL OVER THE EAST COAST TO TAKE PART IN, UH, TURN SPORTS TOURNAMENTS, WHETHER THAT'S INDOOR OR OUTDOOR, YOU HAVE BEEN A PARTICIPANT IN THE SPORTS TOURISM INDUSTRY.
UM, IT'S A FANCY WORD FOR THE TOURNAMENT INDUSTRY.
UM, SO SPORTS TOURISM IS REGIONAL, UM, MOSTLY REGIONAL, ALSO NATIONAL IF A TEAM ADVANCES TO, TO NATIONALS, UM, TO PARTICIPATE IN AS AN ATHLETE OR OBSERVE AS A FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND WHO, WHO GOES AS WELL AND AN AMATEUR SPORTING EVENT.
SO I LIKE TO SAY THIS IS TYPICALLY YOUR FAMILY LOADING UP IN THE MINIVAN, UM, AND DRIVING WITHIN ABOUT FIVE TO SIX HOURS TO TAKE PART IN A MULTI-DAY TOURNAMENT.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE TOURNAMENTS ARE WEEKEND TOURNAMENTS TWO-DAY TOURNAMENTS.
AND THEN, UM, IN THE SUMMER YOU MIGHT SEE A FOUR OR FIVE DAY WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL.
UH, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OUR WEEKEND TOURNAMENTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY WILL COME AND THEY'LL STAY AT LEAST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, UM, TO TAKE PART IN THE TOURNAMENT.
SO SPORTS, TOURISM SPENDING, WHICH IS REALLY HOW THE INDUSTRY IS QUANTIFIED, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GOING TO BE HOTEL NIGHTS, ROOM NIGHTS, UH, THAT ATHLETES AND VISITORS, UM, STAY IN HOTELS IN THE AREA OR AIRBNBS.
UM, AND THEN THEY'RE SPENDING AT RESTAURANTS, RETAIL ENTERTAINMENT, CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS, UM, AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, UH, REALLY IN THERE, THEY'RE IN A SITUATION SIMILAR TO THIS AREA.
THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE TAKE THOSE, THOSE, YOU KNOW, TWO NIGHT TOURNAMENT BUDGETS AND TURN THEM INTO, WELL, LET'S COME A DAY EARLY, LET'S STAY A DAY LATER.
LET'S, LET'S STRETCH IT OUT AND TURN THIS INTO A BROADER VACATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE ASSETS THAT YOU WANT TO, UM, THAT YOU WANT TO DRIVE THESE FAMILIES TO.
THEY LOVE COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG.
THEY LOVE ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT, THAT, UM, EXIST IN THIS AREA.
SO THAT'S A PLUS FROM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THIS IS JUST DATA FROM 2015 THROUGH 2019.
SO PRE COVID, UM, THE SPORTS TOURISM INDUSTRY HAS BEEN RAPIDLY GROWING.
UM, IF WE TRACE THIS DATA, ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY BACK TO, TO THE FINANCIAL CRISIS IN 2008, IT CONTINUED TO GROW RIGHT THROUGH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT EVEN WHEN A FAMILY CUTS THEIR VACATION BUDGET, THEY DON'T TAKE THEIR KIDS OFF THEIR CLUB TEAMS. SO THE, THE, UH, SPORTS TOURISM TRAVEL, UM, AND IN MANY WAYS, FROM 2008 TO LET'S CALL IT 2011 ACTUALLY, UH, REPLACED A LOT OF THE STANDARD TRAVEL THAT THAT FAMILIES WERE DOING.
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TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS REGION, UM, WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT AN INDOOR SPORTS CENTER.SO FROM A YOUTH SPORTS PARTICIPATION STANDPOINT, NATIONALLY, UM, BASKETBALL IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BIG USER OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
BASKETBALL IS ACTUALLY THE MOST POPULAR, POPULAR YOUTH SPORT IN THE COUNTRY BY PARTICIPATION.
UM, VOLLEYBALL IS ALSO TYPICALLY GOING TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT USER OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? WE ALSO PULL DATA FROM VIRGINIA HIGH SCHOOL, INDOOR SPORTS PARTICIPATION, UM, AND IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT YOU SEE NATIONALLY WHERE BASKETBALL OVERALL IS, IS THE LARGEST, UM, IN VOLLEYBALL ACTUALLY FROM A FEMALE PARTICIPATION STANDPOINT IS THE LARGEST FROM, FROM A FEMALE PARTICIPATION STANDPOINT, UM, GYMNASTICS, CHEER, SPIRIT SQUAD, UM, WRESTLING, PICKLE BALL ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN USE AN INDOOR FACILITY OF THIS NATURE AND THAT, THAT WE, UH, WOULD EXPECT TO SEE HERE AS WELL BASED UPON OUR RESEARCH.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SPORTS TOURISM, THE FACTORS THAT WE EVALUATE IN TERMS OF A COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT AND THEN MAINTAIN EVENT ACTIVITY, UM, NUMBER ONE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE, DO YOU HAVE THE SPORTS VENUE THAT THE EVENTS NEED? SO, UM, IF A BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, NEEDS 10 COURTS, UH, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A FACILITY WITH 10 COURTS IN IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT EVENT.
UH, 10 YEARS AGO, YOU COULD PIECE TOGETHER FIVE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOL GYMS AND, UM, KIND OF MAKE IT WORK THAT WAY.
UH, MOST EVENTS NOW WILL NOT CONSIDER A LOCATION BECAUSE THIS INDUSTRY HAS GROWN SO MUCH.
THEY WON'T CONSIDER A LOCATION UNLESS YOU HAVE THEM ALL IN ONE BUILDING.
UM, SO NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE VENUE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE VENUE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME, UM, NUMBERS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR ON THERE.
SO PROXIMITY AND ACCESS TO THE, UM, TO THE ATHLETES AND PARTICIPANTS IS, IS CRUCIAL HAVING THE HOTELS AND OTHER, UM, ENTERTAINMENT AND CULTURAL AMENITIES THAT MAKE IT AN APPEALING DESTINATION MATTER.
UM, AND THEN YOUR REPUTATION AND BRAND AS A DESTINATION, UM, AS A COMMUNITY, THAT'S EASY TO WORK WITH.
UM, TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE REALLY ALL.
UM, WHAT I SAY IS THAT YOU NEED, NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED THE VENUES TO GET THEM TO COME.
THE FIRST TIME WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW VENUE, THEY'LL ALWAYS COME AND THEY'LL TRY IT.
WHAT GETS THEM COMING BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND IDEALLY SIGNING LONG-TERM AGREEMENTS WITH YOU TO LOCK THEM IN, TO COME BACK THE SAME WEEKEND OR WEEKENDS EVERY YEAR.
THAT'S TWO, THREE AND FOUR, BUT YOU CAN'T GET TO TWO, THREE AND FOUR, UNLESS YOU HAVE NUMBER ONE.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AREA, THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, AND I'M SURE IT'S OBVIOUS TO YOU ALL AS WELL, LIVING HERE TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, UM, FROM AN INDOOR SPORTS, YOU KNOW, TOURNAMENT AND TOURISM EVENT, UH, STANDPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE TWO, DON'T HAVE THREE, DON'T HAVE FOUR, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANY TOURISM DRIVER AND THEY COME TO SPORTS, CAUSE THEY SAID, WELL, WE CAN BUILD THE FACILITY AND WE CAN GET EVENTS.
CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE FACILITY, WE'LL GET EVENTS, UM, W WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IS YOU ALREADY HAVE THE THINGS THAT KEEP PEOPLE COMING BACK THAT MAKE THEM WANT TO COME HERE.
THAT, THAT GIVES YOU A LONG-TERM COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IF YOU HAVE THE FACILITY.
SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, UM, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT EVENTS AND BE A PREMIER DESTINATION IN SPORTS TOURISM, BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF, OF PROXIMITY.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S ALMOST 26 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN A FIVE-HOUR DRIVE OF, OF WILLIAMSBURG, OF, OF THE SITE.
UM, THERE'S SO MANY LARGE MARKETS WITHIN THE AREA TO DRAW FROM.
THERE'S ALREADY OVER 70, UM, FAMILY FRONTING, LODGING OPTIONS, AND THAT'S JUST WITHIN 10 MINUTES DRIVE OF THE PROPOSED SITE.
UH, WE WORK IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE'S NOT A SINGLE HOTEL WITHIN 20 MINUTES.
UM, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING A DRIVER, YOU HAVE THE OUTLETS, YOU HAVE ALL THE DINING AND RETAIL, THE HISTORICAL SITES, UM, AND THEN REPUTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMSBURG IS A NATIONAL BRAND WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, HISTORICAL TOURISM AND, AND FAMILY-FRIENDLY TRAVEL AND, UM, AMUSEMENT PARKS AND ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY ON THE MAP AND HAVE THAT REPUTATION.
THAT'S SO HARD FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES TO BUILD, UM, SO REALLY TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT AND MAINTAIN THESE EVENTS, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BUILDING THE FACILITY.
UH, WE LOOKED AT THOSE DRIVE TIMES ZONES.
I TOLD YOU ABOUT, UM, AS I MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THERE'S, THERE'S ALMOST 26 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN A FIVE-HOUR DRIVE TIME RANGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROJECT A FACILITY LIKE THIS TO, UM, TO DRAW FROM THROUGHOUT VIRGINIA WASHINGTON, DC AREA, PHILADELPHIA, BALTIMORE, CHARLOTTE, ET CETERA.
WE, UM, AS PART OF OUR STUDY, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE.
SO WE LOOKED AT, UM, WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE FACILITIES WITHIN THAT ROUGHLY SIX HOUR DRIVE,
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PROFILED THEM, UM, TOOK AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT TYPES OF EVENTS THEY HELD, HOW MANY, UH, COURTS OF VARIOUS TYPES THEY HAD, UM, JUST TO GET A SENSE OF THE COMPETITIVE MARKET, ULTIMATELY, BASED UPON ALL OF THAT, THAT MARKET RESEARCH WE DID, WHICH OCCURRED ABOUT OVER A EIGHT TO 10 WEEK PERIOD.UM, WE CAME BACK WITH OUR DEMAND ASSESSMENT FOR THE FACILITY.
SO, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING AT LEAST 12 BASKETBALL COURTS.
TYPICALLY THE BASKETBALL COURTS, UM, YOU KNOW, HARDWOOD, INDOOR BASKETBALL CARDS COURTS ARE THEN CONVERTIBLE, UH, VIA OVERLAYS INTO, UM, AS MANY AS TWO TO ONE.
UM, YOU COULD ALSO HAVE SOME VOLLEYBALL, SOME BASKETBALL AT VARIOUS TIMES, DEPENDING ON THE MIX WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THAT FACILITY WOULD BE, NEED TO BE AT LEAST, UH, AT LEAST 150,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, AND BE FLEXIBLE.
SO NO, NO LARGE PERMANENT, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE TO BUILD ARENA SETUP, BUT RATHER PORTABLE BLEACHERS, PORTABLE SEATS SO THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE FACILITY FOR ANY TYPE OF EVENT.
AND THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY ALLOWS YOU A LOT MORE USE WITHOUT THE, UM, ADDITIONAL COST OF INVESTING IN THAT FIXED, FIXED INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO YOU CAN USE IT FOR, UM, YOU CAN SET UP A CHAMPIONSHIP COURT FOR A, FOR A BIG HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
YOU COULD DO A WRESTLING MEET WHERE THE BLEACHERS ALL NEEDED TO BE ALONG ONE SIDE WITH ROOM FOR MATS.
UM, YOU COULD EVEN USE IT, UM, FOR BANQUETS MEETINGS, UH, CIVIC EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY FROM AN OPERATING MODEL STANDPOINT, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THIS COMMUNITY, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AS A FIRM, WE, WE ALWAYS COME UP WITH CUSTOM RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH MARKET.
WE, WE WORK IN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A FIRM THAT FOCUSES ON, ON FEASIBILITY.
AND SO FOR EACH MARKET, WE, WE COME BACK AND WE SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE DEMAND FOR UNIQUE TO YOU.
THIS IS WHAT YOUR UNIQUE FACILITY MODEL WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE THINK MAKES THE MOST SENSE FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT.
AND SO GOING BACK TO THAT IDEA, I TALKED ABOUT EARLY ON OF, UM, SORT OF YOUR WEEKDAY USAGE FOR VERSUS YOUR WEEKEND USAGE.
WHAT WE FOUND DEMAND FOR WAS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATIONS CURRENT WEEKDAY PROGRAM DEMAND, UM, THEY CAN USE ABOUT EIGHT COURTS MOST NIGHTS OF THE WEEK, UM, EXCUSE ME.
UM, BUT WE ALSO FOUND DEMAND FROM TALKING TO THOSE VARIOUS USER GROUPS FOR, UM, RENTALS OF, OF COURTS AS WELL, WHETHER THEY'RE VOLLEYBALL, UM, TEAMS, UM, BASKETBALL TEAMS, DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT NEED THEM FOR PRACTICES AND GAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ALL TOGETHER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FOUND DEMAND FOR UP TO 12 COURTS, UM, 12 BASKETBALL COURTS, UM, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FOR USAGE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE WEEKENDS, THAT'S REALLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY SATURDAY, SUNDAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME, SOME LARGER TOURNAMENTS USUALLY IN THE SUMMER, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, USE THOSE 12 BASKETBALL COURTS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZE YOUR SPORTS TOURISM DOLLARS AND BRING IN, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WEEKEND TOURNAMENT EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO DRIVE YOUR ECONOMIC IMPACT IN YOUR ROOM NIGHTS.
AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS REALLY THE BEST PRACTICES MODEL FOR BEING ABLE TO, UM, ACCOMMODATE THE TOURNAMENTS AND ATTRACT THE TOURNAMENTS WHILE ALSO, UM, GETTING STEADY USAGE OF THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST SITTING EMPTY, UM, EVERY WEEK WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR A TOURNAMENT.
WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT, UM, POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS BY, BY SELECTING SOME COMPARABLE FACILITIES, UM, WITHIN THAT COMPETITIVE RANGE THAT ARE BETWEEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 200,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO AT THE TIME OF THIS STUDY, WE, UM, ADAPTED THE COST OF THE FACILITIES TO A PER SQUARE FOOT COST BASED UPON, UM, ADJUSTING THE DOLLAR SPENT AT THE TIME TO, UM, WHAT WE'RE THEN Q4 20, 20 CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS.
AND SO WE CAME OUT TO ABOUT A HUNDRED EIGHTY ONE, A HUNDRED EIGHTY $2 A SQUARE FOOT ON AVERAGE.
UM, SO ON AVERAGE, THAT'S ABOUT, UM, FOR 150,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER $27 MILLION IN Q4 2020, UM, SPENDING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO NOTE CONSTRUCTION COSTS RARELY GO DOWN.
UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY TIME THAT I'VE SEEN ON, UH, DURING MY 20 YEAR CAREER WAS, UM, RIGHT AFTER THE FINANCIAL CRISIS, THERE WAS ABOUT A TWO QUARTER PERIOD WHERE THEY DIPPED AND THEN THEY STARTED BACK UP AGAIN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PLUS THERE'S THE FACT THAT, UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A, UM, A HISTORIC AREA WITH A VERY DISTINCT LOOK AND FEEL IT'S A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS AND CERTAIN STANDARD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE COST COULD BE, UM, ON THE HIGHER END OF THE RANGE, BUT WE ESTIMATED, UM, THAT COULD BE UP TO 43 MILLION, UM, DEPENDING ON, UM, FINAL COSTS AND FINAL PLANS FOR THE BUILDINGS.
UH, LASTLY WE PUT TOGETHER, UM, WE QUANTIFIED OUR OPERATING MODEL FOR THE FACILITY.
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UM, WE'RE PROJECTING A LITTLE OVER 23,000 ANNUAL FACILITY HOURS, WHICH IS A VERY FULL AND VERY BUSY FACILITY.UM, THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND THROUGHOUT THE CALENDAR YEAR FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, UM, WILL BE OPEN TYPICALLY ABOUT 360 DAYS A YEAR, AND HAVE PEOPLE IN IT 360 DAYS A YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, FACTORING CLOSING FOR THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, UM, AND THEN SOMETIMES NOT EVEN CHRISTMAS CAUSE THAT'S GOOD BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT SEASON.
UM, BUT A LOT OF THEM WILL, WILL PICK A WEEK THAT'S HISTORICALLY A SLOWER WEEK FOR THEM AND JUST CLOSE FOR THAT WEEK AND DO ALL THEIR MAINTENANCE, UM, DURING THAT WEEK, BUT BE OPEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO WE HAVE, UM, ABOUT 10,000 HOURS OF PARKS AND REC PROGRAMMING AND ANOTHER 6,000 OF SPORTS TOURNAMENT RENTALS.
WE HAVE RENTALS TO LOCAL VOLLEYBALL CLUBS, LOCAL BASKETBALL CLUBS, UM, OTHER HOURLY GROUPS.
AND THEN WE ALSO BUILT IT IN BUILT IN SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHEN THE CALENDAR ALLOWS FOR IT, UM, TO DO SOME CORPORATE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, JOB FAIRS, EXPOS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT CAN USE THIS TYPE OF FLAT FLOOR SPACE.
UM, WE ALSO PROJECTED ABOUT, UH, IT WAS AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE ACTUALLY ABOUT 38 ANNUAL, UM, TOURISM DRIVER EVENTS IN THE FACILITY, UM, WHICH IS INDICATIVE OF HIGH DEMAND IN THE REGION FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF VENUE.
UM, OVERALL THIS, THIS CHART HERE BREAKS DOWN.
UM, IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THAT CHART, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 557,000 ANNUAL VISITS, UM, OF THAT ABOUT 42% OF THAT ATTENDANCE WOULD BE OUT OF MARKET VISITS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMNS THAT SAY WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND, YOU CAN SEE VERY CLEARLY THAT, THAT THE VISITOR PROFILE FLIPS.
SO DURING THE WEEK, YOUR MONDAYS THROUGH THURSDAYS, UM, THE PRIMARY USAGE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS GOING TO BE, UM, FROM CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, AND YORK COUNTY, UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE SERVING THE LOCAL NEED THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMMING AND OTHER YOUTH BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL TYPE PRACTICES.
UM, BUT THEN ON THE WEEKENDS, THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT TURNS AROUND AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE LIKE 80, 85% OF YOUR, YOUR USAGE IS COMING FROM OUT OF MARKET.
SO OVERALL WE ARE ESTIMATING, UM, TOTAL OUTCOME OUT OF MARKET VISITS OF ABOUT 234,000 IN A, IN A TYPICAL YEAR.
UH, LASTLY WE PUT TOGETHER OUR OPERATING PERFORMANCE FOR THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT A 76% COST RECOVERY, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR, FOR BUILDINGS OF THIS TYPE IN USE.
UM, AND WE MADE SURE THAT WE BASED ALL OF OUR EXPENSES OFF OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EXISTING RATES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR EMPLOYEES OF THESE TYPE IN THE AREA.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY INCREASED THEM FOR THE LARGER BUILDING AND THE, IN THE LARGER FACILITY.
UM, AND THEN ALL OF OUR REVENUES ARE BASED OFF ALL OUR MARKET RESEARCH AND DEMAND, DEMAND MODELING, AND COMPETITIVE MARKET RATES AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF ELEMENTS.
AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, SOMETIMES THERE'S A PERCEPTION, OH, IT'S AN INDOOR FACILITY IT'S ONLY GONNA BE USED IN THE WINTER, UM, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT, NOT THE CASE FOR THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES ANYMORE.
YOU, YOU, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'RE PROJECTING SIGNIFICANT YEAR ROUND USAGE.
UM, AND IN FACT, WHEN IT COMES TO YOUTH AND AMATEUR SPORTS, UM, THERE TYPICALLY IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN IN THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, UM, IN THE SIZE AND LENGTH OF TOURNAMENT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PROJECTING AT LEAST 1500 COURT HOURS A MONTH, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR.
SO WE EXPECT THAT THIS COULD BE, UM, COULD BE A DRIVER OF, OF ECONOMIC IMPACT THROUGHOUT THE CALENDAR YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SURE, SURE.
THIS TOM MISNOMER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ONE, UH, HOW, HOW DO YOU CHARACTERIZE YOUR NUMBERS? ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC OR ARE YOU CONSERVATIVE IN THE NUMBERS? UH, WE ARE NOTABLY CONSERVATIVE AND ALL OF OUR STUDIES.
UM, WE FOCUS ON FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS AND, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL WE DO.
AND SO, UM, OUR ONLY INCENTIVE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBERS WE PROVIDE YOU ARE REALISTIC AND THAT THEY'RE BASED IN THE RESULTS OF OUR MARKET RESEARCH, NOT JUST OUR OPINION.
SO WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND REALISTIC IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE PRESENT.
UM, DID YOU ACTUALLY MENTION THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF THE SITE OR JUST THE AREA? UM, YEAH, SO, UM, IN OUR FULL REPORT, WE, WE DID, UH, USE THE VISITOR CENTER SITE.
SO ALL OF OUR RADIUSES ARE 30 MINUTE DRIVE TIME.
UM, ARE ALL OF THAT? UM, I THINK I MENTIONED ONE TIME, THE THERE'S OVER 70 HOTEL ROOMS, HOTELS WITHIN A 10 MINUTE
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DRIVE OF THE SITE.SO ALL OF THAT IS BASED ON THE VISITOR CENTER SITE.
WHAT'S THAT BEGS MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE FUNDING PARADIGM FOR THIS INVESTMENT? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S JUST THE THREE JURISDICTIONS, UH, ARE THE RECIPIENTS OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS OF THE INVESTORS OR THEIR INVESTORS.
YOU CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION, PLEASE TAKE DOWN YOUR MASK, PLEASE.
ARE THERE INVESTORS OTHER THAN THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES? NO.
WELL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I SAY THAT GENERICALLY, THE FUNDING FORMULA IS BROKEN INTO TWO PIECES.
THERE'S THE OPERATIONAL PIECE.
AND THEN THERE'S THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, THE PLAN INCLUDES THE CITY WILL PROVIDE HALF THE FUNDING AND THE TOURISM COUNCIL, THE REGIONAL TOURISM COUNCIL WILL PROVIDE HALF THE FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THEN ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE IS WHERE THE COUNTIES CONTRIBUTE.
UM, SO IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE ALL FUNDING, THE REGIONAL TOURISM COUNCIL, THE FUNDING PARTNERS ARE THE THREE LOCALITIES.
I THINK I FOLLOWED THAT AND I CAN COMMENT TOO.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, ARE, AND THOSE COMPARABLES I SHOWED YOU THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED.
UM, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE OPERATOR, UM, THAT YOU WANT TO OPERATE THE FACILITY, UM, NONE OF THE LEADING OPERATORS NATIONALLY OR REGIONALLY WILL PAY TO BUILD THE THEY'RE STILL, UM, TYPICALLY PUBLICLY BUILT.
AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THEM A MANAGEMENT FEE ON TOP OF WHAT YOU SAW IN ORDER TO OPERATE IT ON YOUR BEHALF.
UM, SO IN OUR PROJECTIONS, AND I THINK, UM, I THINK THE OTHER CONSULTING FIRM VERIFIED THEM.
WE ACTUALLY, UM, HAD A, A LARGER ANNUAL OPERATING DEFICIT WITH A PRIVATE OPERATOR BECAUSE OF THE FEES THAT HAD TO BE PAID TO THE OPERATOR.
I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'LL PREFACE THIS WITH SAYING I'M VERY INTERESTED IN, IN THIS PROPOSAL.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS TYPE OF ATTRACTION COMING TO THE AREA.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMPETITIVE FLOOR SPACE.
WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON BUILDING TYPE? LET ME I'LL START WITH THAT.
SO THE HISTORIC TRIANGLE SPORTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF THE PARKS RECREATION DIRECTORS, UM, THEIR INITIAL TASK WAS DEVELOPED THE PROGRAMMING PLAN.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT TOGETHER THE LOCALITY NEED ASSESSMENT, BASICALLY, WHICH MATCHED WHAT VICTUS RECOMMENDED FOR SPORTS TOURISM, WHICH IS 12 COURTS, 12 BASKETBALL COURTS THAT ARE CONVERTED DOWN THEN TO OTHER COURTS THAT EQUATES TO AROUND 160,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, I THINK THAT AS WE GO THROUGH IT, AS THE AUTHORITY IS FORMED, THEIR VERY FIRST QUESTION IS TO IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS INTEREST IN SUBMITTING A PPA PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A FACILITY WHICH WILL HELP US REALLY GAUGE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IF THOSE PROPOSALS COME IN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ANYWHERE FROM 150 TO 200,000 SQUARE FEET.
ONE THING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BUILD IT TOO SMALL.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL REGRET THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SO I'LL, I I'LL, UH, I'LL TRANSLATE THAT FROM MY FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR BY TWO, TWO BY THREE OR FOUR FOOTBALL FIELDS IN INSIDE AS COMPETITIVE FLOOR SPACE.
UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MAJOR FOCUS WILL BE BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL, SO YOU WILL BE CONSTRUCTING HARDWARE, HARDWOOD TYPE FLOOR AND SURFACES AS OPPOSED TO ASTROTURF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS THERE? YEAH, OUR ASSUMPTION WAS THAT IT WAS THE PERMANENT FLOORING IS A HARDWOOD FLOOR BASE WITH LINES OVERLAID FOR, UM, BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, PICKLEBALL, PICKLEBALL.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU BRING IN OTHER EVENTS LIKE, UM, SPIRIT SQUAD, CHEER, WRESTLING, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, YOU BUILD STAGES OR LAY MATS OVER THE TOP OF THAT.
UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE STANDARD FOR, FOR FACILITIES LIKE THIS.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, TOOK A BRIEF LOOK AT INDOOR ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS, RIGHT.
UM, BUT GIVEN THAT THIS WAS A FACILITY FOCUSED ON SPORTS TOURISM, UM, THOSE TENTS TEND TO JUST BE A PURELY RECREATIONAL USE, THE AMOUNT OF, OF SPORTS TOURISM DRIVING TOURNAMENT ACTIVITY ON INDOOR TURF IS MUCH, MUCH SMALLER, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE PRIORITIZE THE COURTS AND THE BALL TO USE COURT SPACE IN THIS SITUATION.
WHAT BEYOND YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED PICKLEBALL AND WRESTLING, COMPETITIVE CHEER, AND SO FORTH.
DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF OTHER POTENTIAL SPORTS THAT COULD USE THIS FACILITY AS YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING IT? SURE.
UM, I MEAN, VIRTUALLY ANY, ANY INDOOR SPORT CAN, CAN USE THIS TYPE OF FACILITY FOR SOME PURPOSE.
SO, UM, THERE'S FACILITIES WHERE THEY HAVE, UM, FIELD HOCKEY TEAMS THAT COME IN IN THE SHOULDER SEASONS AND USE IT FOR PRACTICE, UM, THERE'S FACILITIES WHERE THEY PLAY A LOT OF INDOOR SOCCER, UM, ON THE HARD COURT, UM, OR FOOTBALL, WHICH IS A, A SMALLER VERSION OF THAT.
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BUT ULTIMATELY IT COMES DOWN TO, TO THE DEMAND PROFILE ON HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TIME AND SPACE YOU HAVE TO FILL, UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK 60 SOMETHING LIKE 60% OF THAT TOURNAMENT ACTIVITY PROJECTED WAS BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL.UM, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BIG, NOT JUST NATIONALLY, BUT HERE AND IN THIS REGION, IN, IN THE, IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ATLANTIC CORRIDOR, UM, THAT THAT'S NATURALLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE MOST SOPHISTICATED THEY HAVE THE MOST TOURNAMENTS, THEY HAVE THE MOST PARTICIPANTS.
UM, SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S FILLING, YOU KNOW, LET'S CALL IT TWO THIRDS OF YOUR, YOUR WEEKEND CALENDAR RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
THAT IT'S A MATTER OF SAYING, OKAY, WITH THE OTHER WEEKENDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WHAT ARE THE EVENTS THAT, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN MATCHING THAT UP? UM, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE FACILITIES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO BIG WRESTLING TOURNAMENTS A YEAR THAT ARE THE SAME WEEKEND EVERY YEAR.
UM, A COUPLE OF GYMNASTICS EVENTS THAT ARE THE SAME WEEKENDS EVERY YEAR.
UM, KIND OF FILLING IN THE REST OF THAT, THAT, UM, I'VE SEEN, UH, PING PONG TOURNAMENTS.
I'VE SEEN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF A DIFFERENT LIKE CARD GAMES, UH, THEY SET UP CARD TABLES AND HAVE, HAVE POKER TOURNAMENT WE'RE INTERESTED IN ACCOMMODATING THOSE REQUESTS AS THEY COME TO.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY STRICTLY WELL VOLLEYBALL IT, I MEAN, UM, OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION OF THE OPERATING MODEL HERE IS TO, TO PROVIDE AS MUCH OF A COMMUNITY USE AS POSSIBLE AND, AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL VARIOUS TYPES OF EVENTS.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS OF ULTIMATELY BEING PUBLICLY OPERATED, UM, IS THAT YOU TEND TO GET A LOT MORE OUT OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC OPERATOR IS MORE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING AS MUCH USAGE AND COMMUNITY GOOD AS POSSIBLE AND MAXIMIZING THE USAGE OF THE FACILITY, UM, VERSUS A PRIVATE FACILITY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERY EVENT AND SAY, WELL, ARE WE GOING TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY OFF OF THAT? RIGHT.
AND ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS OF OFFERING AN OUTDOOR FACILITY IN COMBINATION WITH INDOOR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
UM, SHE PROVIDED HER, I THINK THAT THE, THE SITE, THE CLEANLINESS WORK SITE BEING SO LARGE, IT, IT OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE BASICALLY THREE PROJECTS THERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE PURVIEW OF THE AUTHORITY.
ONCE IT'S FORMED IS TO DECIDE WHAT THOSE THREE PROJECTS NEED TO BE.
THE FIRST PROJECT TO BE CONSIDERED WILL BE THE INDOOR SPORTS CENTER.
UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE OTHER TWO SITES, WHAT WE COULD DO, THEIR IDEAS COME FORWARD, LIKE AMPHITHEATER, OTHER OUTDOOR SPORTS, EVEN AN AQUATIC HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE WORK OF THE AUTHORITIES TO DECIDE WHAT'S NEXT.
AND WHAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL THREE COMMUNITIES EQUALLY? UM, I WILL PAUSE THERE AND JUST MAKE THE NOTE THAT SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT AT EACH ONE OF THOSE POINTS WHERE ANOTHER PROJECT IS CONSIDERED, THE LOCALITIES WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT IN OR OPT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT BASED ON WHAT'S NEEDED FOR YOU.
I THINK THAT WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND HOPEFULLY YOU PICKED UP ON IT ON WHAT MR. CONLEY WAS SAYING IS THAT THIS FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO SIT VACANT, WAITING ON SPORTS TOURISM EVENT TO HAPPEN.
WE'RE GOING TO PROGRAM IT TO MEET LOCAL NEED.
JAMES CITY COUNTY HAS LOCAL NEED.
AND THIS FACILITY WILL MEET THAT MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
AND THEN ON THE WEEKENDS TRANSITIONED TO BE SPORTS TOURISM.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY THE DIFFICULTY FOR WHOEVER MANAGES THE SITE, WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE ENTITY OR ONE, SOME COMBINATION OF THE THREE LOCALITIES OR THE AUTHORITY ITSELF IS GOVERNING WHO YOU, WHO HAS COURT TIME VERSUS WHO DOES.
AND SO THAT, THAT WILL BE THE TRICKY PART.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED YOU IN TERMS OF THE TWO STUDIES, THERE'S A REAL IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OPERATING LOSS EVERY YEAR, WHEN YOU PRIORITIZE ONE OVER THE OTHER.
AND THIS, THE SWEET SPOT THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY VICTUS IS TO TRY AND SHOOT FOR HEAVY ON COMMUNITY TO FILL THOSE VOIDS, BUT ALSO OUR TASKING THAT, THAT SPORTS TOURISM ASPECTS AS YOU REALLY GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.
IF YOU ALL STARTED PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES ON HOW THIS CAN BENEFIT THEM AND HOW THEY CAN HELP HELP WITH YOUR SUCCESS AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE AN IN, IN THAT THE APPLICATION WAS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THAT BEGAN THIS RENEWED EFFORT BY THE WILLIAMSBURG HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION.
AND SO THAT INDUSTRY CERTAINLY APPRECIATES WHAT THIS CAN DO FOR THEM.
UM, THAT'S THE DRIVER BEHIND ALL OF THEIR EFFORT.
IF YOU REALLY GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2014, THE HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION HAS PUT MONEY IN AFTER MONEY IN TO DO ANALYSIS AND STUDY TO TRY AND CONVINCE LOCALITIES THAT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO SEE IT AS THE MAYOR SAID, A THIRD REASON TO COME TO OUR AREA.
RIGHT? AND SO I THINK, YES, THE HOTELS AND THE MOTELS ARE, ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD.
I THINK AFTER THE AUTHORITY GETS THEIR FEET UNDER THEM HAS A PPA TO CONSIDER, WHICH OF COURSE WILL GIVE US MORE DETAIL
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ON WHAT IT IS EXACTLY WE'RE BUILDING.WE'LL SEE A LOT OF OTHER INDUSTRIES COME FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL TO OUR BUSINESS.
THE HOTEL INDUSTRY IS GOING TO BE YOUR NUMBER ONE PARTNER GIRL EARLY ON, BUT I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AREA HAS A HEALTHY IN INDUSTRY AND SPORTS MEDICINE AND SPORTS TRAINING.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT COULD PARTNER UP WITH YOU AND TO HELP DRIVE SUCCESS AS WELL.
SO, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN SCOPE AND YOU TO GET TO THAT.
AND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AS YOU LOOK AT OTHER FACILITIES LIKE THIS THAT ARE PROPOSED, YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES THEY ACTUALLY INCLUDE A SPORTS MEDICINE FACILITY ON THE SITE OR EVEN IN THE BUILDING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUT OF THE ROUND POSSIBILITY HERE.
WE GOT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE THERE IS A, UH, A PARTNER, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S IN PHYSICAL THERAPY OR SPORTS TRAINING.
UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY USUALLY STRUCTURED AS KIND OF A SPONSORSHIP DEAL WHERE THE, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMPONENT, THE COMPANY, UM, WILL PAY FOR NAMING RIGHTS TO THE FACILITY.
AND AS PART OF THAT, THEY GET, UH, A LOCATION BUILT OUT AS AN ADDITION TO THE FACILITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY THINGS THAT COULD BE EXPLORED IN THE FUTURE, BUT DON'T LIMIT THAT TO JUST THE, THE, THE BIG NAME BRANDS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INDEPENDENT FLOPS THAT THEY WOULD, I THINK, REALLY LIKE TO BE PART OF THIS AS WELL.
UH, MR. CONLEY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
A LOT OF MY FRIENDS, CHILDREN ARE PLAYING SPORTS SUCH AS SOCCER, LACROSSE, UH, COMPETITIVE CHEERING.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED A COMPETITIVE CHEERING.
DID YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE LACROSSE MARKET AND THE, UH, INDOOR SOCCER MARKET OR SOCCER FOR A TRAINING? UH, THERE'S A FRIEND OF ARIZONA DESHAUN WRIGHT WHO HAS A GYM, AND HE HAS A INDOOR SOCCER FACILITY THERE, AND IT STAYS BUSY WITH KIDS PRACTICING PLAYING SOCCER.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF SEEING THAT AROUND HERE AND WITH SOME OF MY FRIENDS AND THEIR KIDS THAT A LOT OF THEM WERE PLAYING, UH, AND TRAVELING.
UH, ONE OF MY FRIENDS JUST WENT TO, UH, RALEIGH DURHAM FOR A TOURNAMENT AND SPENT SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A LACROSSE TOURNAMENT.
SO, UH, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT LACROSSE AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UH, SPORTS, SOCCER, LACROSSE AND COMPETITIVE CHEER, THE COMPETITIVE CHEER? YES, WE DID.
UM, WE WERE REALLY TASKED ON THIS STUDY WITH FOCUSING ON INDOOR SPORTS.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOCCER IS AN OUTDOOR SPORT OR LACROSSE IS AN OUTDOOR SPORT.
UM, SO OUR FOCUS WAS, WAS MORE SO, UM, FOCUSED ON THE TRADITIONAL INDOOR SPORTS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FOUND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING AN INDOOR SOCCER FACILITY, UM, THERE ARE, AND THEY'RE IN THIS MARKET TOO.
THERE ARE TYPICALLY A LOT MORE OF THOSE THAT EXIST PRIVATELY, UM, ALREADY AND ARE ABLE TO, UM, BE PROFITABLE PRIVATELY.
SO, UM, THAT'S ONE FACTOR FROM AN INDOOR SOCCER STANDPOINT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF THE OUTDOOR SPORTS USING INDOOR FACILITIES, LIKE LACROSSE, LIKE FIELD HOCKEY, UM, YOU TEND TO SEE THE DEMAND, UH, COMING IN SORT OF FEBRUARY, MARCH, AND THEN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER WHEN IT STARTS TO GET COLD AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO INSIDE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SCENARIOS WHERE, UH, FACILITIES LIKE THIS HAVE BOUGHT, UM, ROLLOUT ARTIFICIAL TURF SYSTEMS THAT THEY CAN PUT DOWN, UM, FOR A MONTH OR TWO OUT OF THE YEAR TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, OR THEY, UM, THOSE OUTDOOR SPORTS WILL JUST COME IN AND USE, USE THE HARDCOURT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TO BE ABLE TO START THEIR PRACTICES A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, A LITTLE BIT LATER.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THIS FACILITY, UM, IF BUILT, UM, WILL BE VERY, VERY FULL.
SO THERE'S A PREMIER FACILITY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CALLED THE BOO WILLIAMS SPORTS COMPLEX IN HAMPTON.
HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT AND SEEN WHAT THEIR RATE IS IF THEY'RE FILLED, IF THEY'RE VACANT OR, UH, OR WOULD THEY BE COMPETITION FOR US OR IS THIS ACTUALLY NEEDED? YEAH, WE LOOKED INTO ALL OF THAT, UM, THROUGH OUR, OUR DETAILED REPORT, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE MARKET IN DEPTH.
WE TALKED TO DIFFERENT USERS AND ORGANIZERS.
WE, UM, DID AN ANALYSIS, I THINK, OF OVER 20, 25 FACILITIES LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S THERE IS DEMAND FOR THIS FACILITY.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
MOVE INTO CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
I HAVE NO CITIZENS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? ALRIGHT.
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS, MR. BARNETT, NO REPORT, UNLESS THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARNETT?[00:55:02]
WE'LL MOVE.JUST TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR LAST MEETING, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO, UM, HOW WE APPOINT AND PEOPLE TO THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMITTEES ON THIS MAY BE A CONVERSATION TO HAVE AFTERWARDS, BUT YEAH.
HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. MORGAN HAS ALSO BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT AND ACTUALLY HAS PRODUCED A GRAPH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY STILL SITTING ON MY DESK, BUT OKAY.
OH, WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND HIS EFFORTS.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
NONE, I GUESS THAT COMES TO THE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING HOUR.
[2 Application No. UP-971-21 Williamsburg Area Transit Authority.]
TIME.I LIKE TO CALL ON MS. PARKER, MS. PARKER, IF YOU COULD COME IN AND GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE WILLIAMSBURG TRANSIT AUTHORITY APPLICATION.
UH, SPUR A NEW, A TRANSFER STATION AT 6 1 6 6 MORE TOWN ROAD TO FACILITY MAP OF THE AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
UM, IT'S RIGHT WHERE OR HONOR MORE TOWN AND OLD MORE TOWN ROAD ALL COME TOGETHER ADJACENT TO THE Y M C A AND SENTARA.
I THINK MR. ZAREMBA MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA A LITTLE BIT.
IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR MASK OFF, PLEASE BE GLAD WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
UH, WE GOT MICHAEL CUMMINS OFFICE PARK, FERGUSON ENTERPRISES CROSS THE STREET, AND THEN, UH, THE ARBORS DEVELOPMENT APARTMENTS IN ARBORDALE BEYOND THAT.
UH, IT'S RIGHT ON THE JAMES CITY COUNTY LINE ON OLD MORE TOWN ROAD.
UM, ALL THE BUILDINGS YOU SEE OVER IN JAMES CITY COUNTY ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY.
UH, IT'S LOCATED IN THE, UH, EO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, UM, THE GRAY, YOU SEE THEIR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THE GREEN RC IS NEWPORT NEWS WATERWORKS PROPERTY.
AND IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, IT IS, UM, OUR, TO A GENERAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS, UM, PRETTY MUCH EQUIVALENT TO OUR, UH, OUR, OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SITE FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT, UH, AND PROTECTION AREA OVERLAY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR THE WALLER MILL RESERVOIR AERIAL PHOTO OF THE AREA, UM, HEAVILY WOODED.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO RETAIN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN OF IT, THAT WOODED AREA.
SO PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE AREA, THIS IS, UH, LOOKING ACROSS BULLET FONTS, BULLET FONTS IS OFF TO THE RIGHT, LOOKING ACROSS MORE TOWN ROAD AT THE PROPERTY, UH, LOOKING NORTH ON MORE TOWN, SOUTH ATMORE TOWN, UM, THAT'S FERGUSON ENTERPRISES OVER THERE ON THE LEFT, STANDING ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, LOOKING DOWN, UM, BOULEVARD'S BOULEVARD AND LOOKING DOWN ON A ROAD AND INTERSECTION OF HONOR ROAD CLARK AND OLD MORE TOWN ROAD APPLICANT'S PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT AND STANDING, UH, IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, UH, LOOKING ACROSS, UH, OMAR TOWN ROAD AT THE PROPERTY NOTE THAT SIDEWALK THERE.
AND, UM, I'LL BE REFERENCING THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, AND THEN BOTH DIRECTIONS I'M ON AN OLD MORE TOWN ROAD.
THIS IS THE BACK OF THE YMCA BUILDING.
WANTED TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT, UM, ACCESS WAY THAT ACTUALLY COMES RIGHT OFF THEIR PARKING LOT AROUND TO THE BACK THERE.
AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A, UH, SIDEWALK CONNECTION THERE IT'S THE APPLICANT'S SKETCH PLAN.
UH, IT WOULD CALL FOR SIX SPACES FOR A BUSES, A BUS SHELTER IN THE CENTER, A CUSTOMER SERVICE DRIVERS, LOUNGE, RESTROOM FACILITY, BUILDING, UM, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.
THEY'RE SHOWING SIDEWALK ACROSS THE FRONT, OVER TO, UM, MORE TOWN ROAD.
WE HAD REQUESTED A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE FULL FRONTAGE OF, UM, PORNO ROAD TO CONNECT UP TO THE SIDEWALK ON OLD MORE TOWN IN A FEW WEEKS, FUTURE SIDEWALK PLANS FOR OUR SIDE OF OLD WAR TOWN ROAD AS WELL, TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, UH, IT'S REQUIRED ALONG MORE TOWN ROAD, UM, OLD MORE TOWN ROAD AND A GREENBELT ON MORE TOWN ROAD.
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LOT OF LANDSCAPING OUT THERE.WE HAD REQUESTED THE, UM, TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, UH, INCLUDE A SOLID BOARD FENCE TO AFFORD SOME SCREENING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD MORE TOWN.
AND THEY'RE SHOWING A CONCEPTUAL, UM, STORMWATER FACILITY THERE AS WELL SOME, UH, CONCEPTUAL FACADE FACILITY PLANS.
UM, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE, UM, COMPLETED, UH, BUILDING PLANS AT THIS POINT.
AND THIS WAS JUST SOME, UH, CONCEPTUAL, UH, FACILITY PHOTOS THAT THEY SUBMITTED SUMMARY.
IT FEELS FACILITY IS GOING TO REPLACE THEIR EXISTING TRANSFER AREA, WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALMART OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE WALMART PARKING LOT.
SO IT WOULD BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT, UH, 50 1500 SQUARE FOOT CUSTOMER SERVICE DRIVER'S LOUNGE BUILDING, UM, 1,380 SQUARE FOOT BUS SHELTER.
AS I HAD NOTED PARKING FOR SIX BUSES, EMPLOYEE, CUSTOMER PARKING, AND NEW SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS, THE ACCESS WOULD BE ONLY OFF THE HORNER, UM, HORNER LANE, A NORMAL OPERATION HOURS, 6:00 AM TO 8:30 PM, BUT THAT CAN BE, UH, FLEXIBLE DEPENDING ON THE SEASON AND EVENTS THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING.
STAFF DOES NOT FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY ADVERSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
UH, ACCORDING TO INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT, THERE WOULD BE EIGHT BUS TRIPS PER HOUR, NO MORE THAN THREE EMPLOYEES ON SITE, LITTLE OR NO CUSTOMER TRAFFIC IS THIS IS A BUS TRANSFER.
ESTIMATED AVERAGE DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS WOULD BE 128 MORE TOWN ROAD.
ACCORDING TO DEVITA CURRENTLY CARRIES 8,700 VEHICLES.
AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE BUS ACCESS WOULD BE VIA MORE TOWN ROAD AND HUNTER LANE ONLY.
THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO BE ACCESSING IT, UM, FROM OLD MORE TOWN ROAD.
AND I ALSO NOTE THAT THERE IS A SIGNAL AT THE MOORE TOWN ROAD, BOULEVARDS, UH, BOULEVARD INTERSECTION THAT'S IN THE WORKS NOW SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR PROPOSED APPROVAL CONDITIONS THAT WOULD OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS.
TRANSITIONAL BUFFER WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH SOLID BOARD FENCING AND SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FULL LENGTH OF A HORNER LANE AND THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION TO THE
IT'S A NEEDED REGIONAL FACILITY, OBVIOUSLY A BIG IMPROVEMENT OVER THE TRANSFER STATION IN THE WALMART PARKING LOT WOULD EXPAND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AND SIDEWALKS.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY RECOMMENDS THAT WE SUPPORT EXPANSION, A LOT OF FACILITIES IN THE, UH, UPPER COUNTY.
AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION R 21 DASH 1 27.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. PARKER, MISS KNOLL? NO.
UM, IS THIS ALSO A FACILITY WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY STILL EXIST GREYHOUND? UM, YEAH, WE JUST TRAVELED ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON BUSES CALLED GREYHOUND AND THEY HIT A COMPETITOR.
I DON'T RECALL THE NAME
IS THERE, DID ANYBODY RAISE THE ISSUE OF PERHAPS? I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE, LIKE THE WEST COAST, BUT THESE FACILITIES OFTEN, UH, YOU KNOW, BECOME MAGNETS FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE OPENED UP LAURA'S PART OF THE DAY.
I SEE THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSED BY, BY EIGHT 30 IN THE EVENING OR THEREABOUTS, BUT IT CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT, UH, THEM BEING USED AS QUOTE HOMES, UNQUOTE, BUT FOLKS WHO DON'T HAVE HOMES, THAT WASN'T AN ISSUE THAT HAD COME UP.
SO THIS IS NOT A BUS STOP AT THE TRANSFER STATION.
WHAT IS THE TRANSFER STATION USE FOR? YOU WOULD HAVE A ROUTE AT ONE END OF THE REGION, THE COUNTY, AND YOU NEED TO GET ACROSS TO THE OTHER, OTHER REGIONS.
SO IT'S A CENTRAL SWITCHING STATION FROM ONE, ONE BUS REGION, ONE BUS ROUTE TO THE, ALL RIGHT, SORRY.
SO THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WERE COMING.
THEY NEED TO TRANSFER FROM ONE, ONE ROAD TO ANOTHER.
UH, CAN YOU PULL UP THE, THE SITE SKETCH AGAIN, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT.
SO, SO WE, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY TRAFFIC ON OLD MORE TIME ROAD FROM THIS, FROM THE BUSES OR ANYTHING.
HERE IS NO, THE APPLICANT IS INDICATED THEY'D ONLY BE USING MORE TOWN AND HORNER ROAD.
THEY MAY USE OLD MORE TOWN YET FOR THE SUMMER REASON MORTON WASN'T AVAILABLE TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK THE,
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THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE AT ALONG OLD MORE.THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WILL BE PRETTY ISOLATED FROM, FROM THEM.
AND HOW FAR AWAY IS THE WALMART WHERE IT'S BEING USED TODAY? UM, WALMART'S UP BEYOND THE VICTORY VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTERS WHERE HOME DEPOT IS.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, UP AND AROUND THE CORNER FROM THERE.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE TO GET ON THE BUS TO GO, OR WHERE THEY JUST TAKE A BUS TO HERE AND THEN GET ON ANOTHER BUS TO ANOTHER, TO ANOTHER RIDE, THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE ON A BUS, COME HERE AND SWITCH CHANGE BUSES.
THERE COULD BE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, PARK AND COME HERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE JUST CHANGING.
AND THIS IS SERVING THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG AREA, RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GOING INTO OTHER LOCALITIES, RIGHT? YES.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND GIVE YOU SOME MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT SERVICE AREAS.
THANK YOU, MS. PARKER, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE APPLICANT, MR. TRODDEN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
AND YOU'VE KINDA, YOU'VE KIND OF HEARD SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, MR. ROWAN HAS, IF YOU COULD START OFF YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION TO ADDRESSING THOSE DIRECTLY.
HE DESCRIBED A, UM, WAIT, WAIT, JUST A SECOND.
I'VE GOT THE, UH, IT'S NOT QUITE WINSTON CHURCHILL NEVER GET OFF SPEEDS, BUT I'VE ONLY GOT ABOUT FOUR SLIDES.
ONE OF THE SHORTEST PRESENTATIONS, HOPEFULLY LIVER BREVITY IS THE CELEBRITY.
SO, UM, UH, YEAH, YOU DESCRIBED A TRANSFER STATION.
LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR ROUTES THAT CONVERGE HERE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, SOMEBODY COULD BE COMING FROM THE TRAIN STATION DOWN IN WILLIAMSBURG AND WANTING TO GET OUT TO, UM, TOWANA OR SOMETHING.
SO THEY'D TAKE ONE BUS HERE AND THEY'D HAVE TO GET ON ANOTHER BUS TO GO OUT TO TUANA.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE THAT GOES DIRECTLY THERE, SO THAT'S SORT OF, OR VICE VERSA.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.
FOUR HOURS CONVERGE HERE, GETTING TO THE WALMART.
WE STILL, WE STILL WILL HAVE ONE BUS THAT GOES TO THE WALMART.
SO THAT IS A HUGE, OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC GENERATOR.
IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT THE BEST PLACE RIGHT NOW FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE OUR FOUR BUSES CONVERGED ANYMORE.
AS YOU KNOW, WALMART IS JUST CONSTANTLY AND LOWE'S BEING NEXT TO IT.
SO IT'S JUST NOT A SAFE SITUATION FOR US RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TRANS TRANSITION TO WHEN POSSIBLE.
UM, SO IT DOES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I JUST GIVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION.
OF COURSE, FOR CONSIDERING OUR APPLICATION.
UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.
UM, OUR, OUR, WE HAD A FEASIBILITY STUDY DONE AS WELL TO FIND A SITE, UM, THAT WERE REPLACED.
WE USED TO BE AT THE OLD WAYS, BERG OUTLET MALL, IF YOU, IF YOU RECALL THAT BEING THAT BEING AROUND IN LIGHTFOOT, WHEREAS THE HARRIS TEETER NOW, UM, AND SO THAT GOT SOLD TO BECOME THE HARRIS TEETER EVENTUALLY.
SO WE HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THERE AND WE ENDED UP AT WALMART.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST NOT THE IDEAL SITUATION FOR US FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
SO OUR BOARD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO, TO LOOK AND FIND A PLACE THAT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO ACTIVITY CENTERS.
YES, PEOPLE COULD STILL, THEY COULD, PERHAPS FROM THE APARTMENTS THEY COULD PERHAPS GET ACROSS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE HONORABLE WALTERS, RUMBA, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL, YOU KNOW, W WE'LL HELP CERTAINLY PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO CROSS THERE.
BUT, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT AS WELL.
UM, SO THEY MAY BE HERE WITH THAT.
THEY COULD WALK ACROSS, HIT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES.
SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GROWING AND CHANGING.
SO IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO KIND OF PLANT OUR FLAG RIGHT NOW.
SO THE PROPERTY BECOMING AVAILABLE IS GREAT.
WE LOOKED AT THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION OF, UM, CORNER ROAD, BUT THAT WAS REALLY TOO SMALL.
SO THIS CAME AVAILABLE AND OUR BOARD DECIDED TO GO FOR IT.
UM, WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY, THERE HAVE A LOT OF SITES THAT WERE GREAT, BUT IT'S HARD TO FIND PROPERTY ON A THOROUGHFARE.
AND, AND THE WAY IS BERG AREA, YOU CAN IMAGINE.
SO THIS, THIS WAS ONE THAT, UM, OUR BOARD WAS HAPPY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, YOU KNOW, AGREED TO NEGOTIATE WITH US.
SO, UM, THAT JUST WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED THAT KIND OF TOLD YOU, SO THIS WAS THE STUDY AREA.
YOU SEE THE FOUR ROUTES THAT CONVERGED THERE.
SO RIGHT NOW THESE ROUTES COME FROM, UM, ONE OF THEM GOES DOWN MORE TO UP MORE TOWN ROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, PASSING THE HOME DEPOT.
ONE GOES AROUND, UM, THE CENTERVILLE ROAD, LIGHTFOOT ROAD AREA.
I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, LONG HILL ROAD AREA AND COMES UP THERE.
AND ONE COMES, UH, WEST ON RICHMOND ROAD.
AND ONCE WE BUILD THIS FACILITY, IF, IF APPROVED WILL BE W CONVERSION AT THIS FACILITY INSTEAD, UM, THIS DEDICATED TO US, UM, SO THIS WAS ONE FROM OUR STUDY, JUST, JUST A SIMPLE, WHAT IT IS, IS BUS TRANSFER FACILITY, AS SUPERVISOR ROWAN ASKED WHAT IT IS NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE KEEPING BUSES THERE.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MAINTENANCE, NOT GOING TO BE PERFORMED.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE CHEMICALS AND OIL AND STUFF AROUND.
AND IT'S ALSO NOT REALLY WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK AND CATCH THE BUS.
THERE ARE SOME PARKING SPACES, BUT CERTAINLY WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO PASS AND BE PEDESTRIANS
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THAT HAD COME THERE TO GET OUT OF THERE.MAYBE SOME PEOPLE CAN PICK THEM UP THERE.
SO, SO THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY A PRETTY, PRETTY SIMPLE PROGRAM FOR US TO MEET, UM, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SECURITY, CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL NEED, WE'LL NEED TO WATCH AND BE AWARE OF.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE DO PLAN, THAT'D BE ACTIVITY THERE.
SO, AND FOR NEVER TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT JUST DOES KIND OF SIT THERE WITHOUT SOME ACTIVITY.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFFS HAVING SOMEWHERE TO PARK OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO DO SOMETHING.
SO THEY MAY BE KIND OF PATROLLING AROUND THERE AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO, I MEAN, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN STOP AND DO PAPERWORK OR SOMETHING WHO KNOWS.
UM, BUT THAT WAS REALLY ALL THAT I WOULD WISH TO SAY.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. TRODDEN? NO KNOW WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION AGAIN? RIGHT NOW WE SAY, UM, BASICALLY LIKE 6:00 AM TO EIGHT 30 BECAUSE OUR, OUR SERVICE ENDS AT 9:00 PM RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT, SO A BUS WOULD GO FROM THE TRAIN STATION FOR INSTANCE, DOWN IN WILLIAMSBURG AND BE OUT THERE AT EIGHT 30, THEN WE'D COME BACK AND END AT NINE O'CLOCK AT THE TRAIN STATION.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE EIGHT 30 COMES FROM.
IF WE STAYED, IF WE STAYED OPERATING UNTIL 11, IT WOULD PERHAPS BE 10 30 OUT THERE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO OPERATE MORE FREQUENTLY.
WE KIND OF GET OUT THERE AND HEAD BACK INTO TOWN.
SO THAT'S YOUR, YOUR BUSES, NATURAL GAS OR DIESEL.
WHAT, RIGHT NOW WE OPERATE CLEAN DIESEL AS WATER.
WE OWN THAT THE COLONIAL WISBERG FOUNDATION OPERATES.
THOSE ARE COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ELECTRIC, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME, GETTING SOME BATTERY ELECTRIC BUSES IN THE NEAR FUTURE, HOPEFULLY WORKING ON PLANNING FOR THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE DO USE CLEAN DIESEL.
I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, I'M TRYING TO GAUGE THE POTENTIAL IMPACT FOR THE FOLKS ALONG WARTIME ROAD.
ABSOLUTELY SOUNDED LIKE IT WON'T BE THAT NOTICEABLE.
AND IF IT'S NOTICEABLE AND I'LL GET YOU TO COME IN AND IT'S FOUR BUSES, FOUR ROUTES RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T SIT AROUND IDLING FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, JUST SIT THERE A FEW MINUTES AND THEN THEY TAKE OFF AND NEEDED TO GET BACK ON THE ROUTE.
SO THE BUSES AREN'T THERE OVERNIGHT? NO, SIR.
NO, NO PARKING OVERNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, SIR.
SO W WOULD IT BE CORRECT AND SUMMING THIS UP IS IT'S SORT OF LIKE A, KIND OF A PARKING LOT FOR BUSES TEMPORARILY AND THEN YEP.
SOME, SOME JUST SHELTERS FOR IF IT'S RAINING OR SOMETHING JUST FOR, TO GET PEOPLE TO HAVE COMFORT.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT FOR US IS IT'S PLACE THE DRIVER STICK, ARREST, USE THE RESTROOM IF THEY NEED TO.
UM, UH, WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE RETAIL RIGHT NOW MAYBE, BUT IF TICKETS OR SOMETHING NEED TO BE SOLD THERE, MAYBE THAT TYPE OF USE FOR THE FUTURE.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? GOING ONCE GOING TWICE GONE THIS TIME, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MS. SNOW.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD I'D LIKE TO MOVE OUR 21 DASH 1 27, PLEASE.
MADAM CLERK PROMOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY MISS KNOLL TO MOVE THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. SNOWLESS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 21 DASH 1 27 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA, MRS. NOLE, MR. ROAN.
THAT'S ALL OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
THE NIGHT.WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UH, FIRST APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR SITE WORK FOR THE NEW SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE STREET ACCEPTANCE METAL FIELD ROAD, UM, ADA CO UH, COMPLIMENTARY, UH, PARATRANSIT SERVICE AGREEMENT, FIBER OPTIC EXPANSION, EMPLOYEE RETENTION, SUPPLEMENT, UH, THE RETIRING EMPLOYEE, NANCY ROWE, COMMENDING HER AND REQUEST FOR REFUNDS FOR PLAINS MARKETING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES MORE INFORMATION ON ANY OF THESE NUMBER FEET, NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER FOUR.
UH, MR. MORGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE SITE WORK? UM, YES.
UH, THIS IS THE NEW PUBLIC BUILDING THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR ADDITION TO THE OPERATIONS COMPLEX.
UH, WE HAVE PLANNED TO BUILD IT IN TWO PHASES WITH THE FIRST PHASE BEING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE SITE WORK, UH, BASICALLY TO GET IT STARTED, UH, SPREAD OUT THE COST OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE A BID FROM A EXPERIENCED CONTRACTOR, UM, AND, UM, WE'D LIKE TO AWARD THIS AND IF THE WEATHER HOLDS, WE CAN START GETTING SOME WORK DONE BEFORE WINTER RAIN.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THE SITE WORK WILL CONSIST OF? UM, CLEARANCE RATES? YEAH.
SO, UH, IN JOSEPH'S LETTER TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS IS HERE AND HE'S, UH, HE COULD TELL YOU EVERY DETAIL.
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IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO CLEAR THIS.I'D PUT IN THE STORM DRAINAGE, BASINS, UH, ROUGH, ROUGH IN THE, UH, THE ROADS, BUILD THE DECELERATION LANE OFF A GOOD ONE NECK, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REDONE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY BUILD A BUILDING.
BUT JOE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PLEASE COME, COME UP, TAKE YOUR MASK OFF.
AND, AND I, AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE, JOE.
ONE OF OUR MOST SENIOR ENGINEERS IS A REAL EXPERT IN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM LEADING US ON THIS AND MANY OTHER PROJECTS.
UH, WHAT MR. MORGAN DESCRIBED AS IS CORRECT.
WE'LL BE BRINGING ALL THE UTILITIES IN FOR THIS UP TO WHERE THE BUILDING SITE IS.
UH, THERE'S A, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THERE'S A PUBLIC MEETING SPACE, THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE IN THIS BUILDING.
SO THERE'S ABOUT 50 PUBLIC PARKING SPOTS THAT WILL BE OUT IN FRONT OF THE, UM, BUILDING THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED TO STONE AS THIS PHASE AND THE ASPHALT HAVE COME AFTERWARDS.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC BEHIND THE BUILDING IS THE LARGER, UH, SECURED PARKING AREA FOR THE OFFICERS.
AND THAT AREA WON'T BE BUILT DURING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE USING GEOTHERMAL TECHNOLOGY FOR THE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS.
AND THOSE WELLS GO IN THE PARKING AREA IN THE BACK.
SO WE WON'T EVEN BE STONING IT IN THIS PHASE, BUT THAT'LL BE DONE IN THE SECOND PHASE.
IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF TO TAKE CARE OF THE STORM WATER, AND THAT WILL BE BUILT, COMPLETED.
AND, UH, THAT ENTIRE AREA, UH, OF THE SITE WILL BE FINISHED DURING THIS PHASE.
SO, SO THE BMV IS PART OF THE SITE WORK AS WELL.
UM, W ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE OF IS CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL COST.
I'M THINKING WAS SITE WORK, PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED WITH PSYCH BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, IN MY WRITING IN ASSUMPTION, THAT'S CORRECT.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS, UH, IT WAS INTERESTING.
WE HAD A MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH DOMINION POWER ON MOVING A UTILITY OF THEIRS AND DOMINION, AS YOU KNOW, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CORPORATIONS IN THE STATE.
AND THEY SAID, WE CANNOT BUY PVC CONDUIT.
UH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT A FEW MONTHS TO GET THIS.
SO, BUT THE ONLY THING WE ARE PURCHASING A MATERIAL WISE, OTHER THAN STONE FOR THIS PART OF THE PROJECT IS REALLY THE UTILITY LINES, WHICH ARE, UM, DUCTILE IRON PIPE AND PVC PIPE.
YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THAT IS DEFINITELY HARD, HARD TO GET.
SO I'M HOPING THAT BEFORE WE REALLY GET ROLLING A CONSTRUCTION, THE PRICES OF REAL MATERIAL HAVE TO HAVE COME DOWN AND SOME FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING IT, BUT WHO KNOWS AT THIS POINT, BUT HOW LONG DO WE ANTICIPATE SITE WORK? UH, IT'LL BE FINISHED IF WE, IF WE CAN GET STARTED THE FIRST DIGITAL OF NOVEMBER, LIKE WE WOULD HOPE, UH, WILL BE FINISHED BY EARLY IN JUNE.
AND THAT'LL GIVE US ABOUT A MONTH FOR THE SITE TO JUST BE THERE WAITING FOR THE JULY ONE START OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON, ALL RIGHT, MR. MORGAN, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, EMPLOYEE RETENTION SUPPLEMENT.
SO, UM, WE BRIEFED THIS, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE REPORTING ON THE ARPA FUNDS RECALL THAT, UM, THE STATE, UM, AWARDED FUNDS FOR, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ALL AROUND THE STATE.
HOWEVER, THE FINE PRINT OF THAT IS THEY ACTUALLY AWARDED A $3,000 BONUS FOR ABOUT HALF OF OUR DEPUTIES.
ONLY THOSE THAT ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, IN THE, IN THE COMP BOARD, THE STATE COMP BOARD.
SO WHAT I RECOMMENDED WAS THAT THIS BOARD, UH, PROVIDE A $3,000 RETENTION PAYMENT TO ALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES.
UH, CERTAINLY LEVERAGING THE MONEY WE WOULD GET FROM THE STATE FOR HALF OF THEM.
UH, WE GIVE THAT SAME BONUS IF YOU WILL, TO DO UNIFORM FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PEOPLE.
AND OUR 9 1 1 OPERATORS, THE, THE TRIAD OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE, AND THAT WE GIVE HALF OF THAT AMOUNT OF $1,500 AMOUNT TO OUR CIVILIAN WORKFORCE, UH, EXCEPT FOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT.
AND THE, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS TO DO THIS IS, UH, IN F Y 21.
UH, WE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY COMPENSATION INCREASE FOR OUR STAFF.
UM, HONESTLY, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF, OF COVID WAS GOING TO BE MORE SEVERE THAN IT TURNED OUT TO BE, UM, MANY OTHER LOCALITIES DID.
AND, UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF A CATCH-UP AND, UM, WE'RE ALSO IN A VERY TOUGH LABOR MARKET RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT USE OF APPROXIMATELY 10% OF OUR ARPA FUNDS KIT.
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OF A ONE-TIME PAYMENT, UH, AND IT RECOGNIZES OUR, OUR VERY LOYAL WORKFORCE.UH, THAT'S BEEN WITH US DURING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME, MR. ZAREMBA.
I THINK THE WORD THAT GOT ME, UH, WAS RETENTION, UH, EMPLOYEE RETENTION SUPPLEMENT, UH, IT IMPLIED TO ME THAT THERE WAS A, UH, A GROWING, YOU KNOW, STAMPEDE OUT THE DOOR AND WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO RETAIN THEM, BUT YOU JUST, WITHOUT USING THE WORD RETENTION, YOU CALLED IT A BONUS.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE BONUS, I JUST WAS CONCERNED THAT WE REALLY HAVE AN EXODUS, UH, OF EMPLOYEES TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT TO RETAIN THEM, UH, THE VERSUS GOING, THIS IS NORMALLY BASED ON EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE DUTY.
WELL, I MEAN, IT'S, YOU CAN CERTAINLY USE THE TERM BONUS.
UM, IN, IN MY MIND IT WAS RECOGNITION FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE LOYALLY SERVED FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS WHY I CHOSE THE TERM, YOU KNOW, RETENTION SUPPLEMENT.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY BE FAIR TO DESCRIBE IT AS A BONUS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. RYAN? UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS I LIKE TO, UH, MOVE THAT WE, UM, MOVED THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR APPROVAL.
MADAM CLERK MOTIONS MADE MADE BY MR. WRIGHT TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR MADE BY MR. ROWAN IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MRS. NOLE.
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INTO COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO, WE'VE GOT A NEW BUSINESS ITEM THAT MR.SO I'M GONNA START WITH THE SNOW.
IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING FALL AND THE DATES HAVE BEEN STRANGE IN FACT, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR COUNT DATE, WHICH IS FALLING ON A TUESDAY.
AND SO THEREFORE THE BOARD DECIDED THAT, OF COURSE WE WOULD NOT BE MEETING THAT NIGHT.
SO OCTOBER 19TH, NO BOARD MEETING AND REALLY NOT MUCH OF YORKTOWN DAY AT ALL.
UNFORTUNATELY, COVID HAS REALLY WRECKED OUR, OUR LIFESTYLE FOR NOT JUST US, BUT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOUR TOWN DAY.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING ON THEIR AGENDA YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETIES THAT COME, THEY COME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THEY COME FROM TEXAS, THEY COME FROM HAWAII, THEY COME FROM THE NORTH, THEY CAN MISS OUT.
THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS SAY THAT, PLEASE COME AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
AND THEY'VE CUT BACK THE CEREMONY SO MUCH THAT ONLY A HUNDRED PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AT THE CEREMONY, UH, THIS YEAR, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR.
AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD ALWAYS TO NEXT YEAR, UH, A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT, NOT NEXT YEAR, BUT NEXT TIME WE HAVE A MEETING IT'S GOING TO BE AFTER ELECTION DAY.
SO WE HAD THE MEETING TONIGHT, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE, WHAT IS IT ON THE 16TH OF NOVEMBER? SO I'M PLEADING WITH EVERYBODY TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE RUNNING.
THEY DESERVE YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT.
YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH AND YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR THOSE WHO FEEL AS YOU DO.
SOMEONE SAID, IF YOU CAN AGREE WITH SOMEONE 70% OF THE TIME, YOU CAN AGREE WITH THEM.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU GO TO THE POLLS, BUT PLEASE GO TO THE POLLS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT EARLY VOTING HAS REALLY BEEN PRETTY HOT AND HEAVY.
SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION IS IMPORTANT.
WHETHER YOU, YOU COME AND YOU VOTE FOR YOUR LOCAL ELECTIONS, WHICH WILL BE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES.
THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HELP MAKE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.
SO THEIR VOTE, THE WAY YOU VOTE FOR THEM IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A GOVERNOR'S RACE THAT'S COMING UP AS WELL.
SO REMEMBER THAT WE IN VIRGINIA HAVE AN ELECTION DAY EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND DON'T JUST SAY, OH, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THAT'S EVERY FOUR YEARS, BUT A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN FOUR YEARS AND YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO EVERY YEAR.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, AS MANY FOLKS KNOW, BOARD SUPERVISOR MEMBERS GET THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON DIFFERENT
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COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY.AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS THAT I GET TO SERVE ON THIS YEAR HAS BEEN THE POLICY COUNCIL FOR THE LOCAL HEADSTART PROGRAM.
AND THAT PROGRAM IS STAFFED BY A WONDERFUL, DEDICATED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE OUR YOUNGEST STUDENTS GET STARTED OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT.
SOME OF THE, SOME OF OUR STUDENTS DON'T HAVE THE SAME ADVANTAGES AS OTHER STUDENTS.
AND IF, IF NOT, GIVEN THE HELP THAT THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES THEM CAN REALLY BE CHALLENGED TO BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THEIR, THEIR SCHOOL CAREER.
AND EVEN, EVEN AFTER SCHOOL, IT'S, I KIND OF LIKEN IT TO AN ATHLETIC EVENT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU STUMBLED ALL OUT OF THE START GATE, IF YOU GIVE UP THAT TOUCHDOWN ON THE OPENING KICKOFF, YOU'RE PLAYING CATCH UP THE WHOLE TIME.
AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST CAN'T OVERCOME THAT DISADVANTAGE.
AND TH AND THIS TEAM HERE WORKS REALLY HARD TO, UH, LEVEL THAT PLAYING FIELD SO THAT AGAIN, OUR YOUNGEST KIDS CAN GROW TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
STUDENTS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL LATER ON, AND I WANTED TO RE RECOGNIZE THEM AND MENTIONED THEM.
UM, WE'LL HAVE THEM ACTUALLY COME AND DO A, A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION TO GET REALLY GETTING DOWN INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY'VE AND WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISH.
UM, I'M REALLY, REALLY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND DO MY LITTLE, LITTLE BIT, I CAN TO HELP THEM ALONG.
UM, SOME OF THE COUNSELORS THAT I'VE SHARED HERE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND THE BIGGEST THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND, AND CHALLENGES.
THE BIGGEST THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOUGH, IS THE EFFORT THEY PUT OUT DURING THIS COVID PERIOD, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY AND REASONABLE FOR THEM TO JUST DIAL BACK SERVICES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS THAT THEY NORMALLY HAVE WITH THE, NOT ONLY THE STUDENTS, BUT ALSO WITH THE STUDENT FAMILIES PROVIDE THEM ASSISTANCE AS WELL, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.
THEY LOOK FOR, THEY RENOVATED INNOVATIVE, LOOK FOR ALL THEIR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND ALTERNATIVES TO CONTINUE TO MEET AND ENGAGE THE STUDENTS AND THE FAMILIES TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM MOVING ALONG AND HELP THOSE KIDS THROUGHOUT THE THREAT, THAT DIFFICULT TIME AS WELL.
SO I WANNA APPLY THEM OR WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THEM COMING TO MEETING THOSE WITH US ONE NIGHT AND REALLY GIVE A LONG READ OUT ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT THEY DO.
AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.
AND MR. MR. MORGAN, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT HER UPCOMING AGENDAS AND SEE WHEN WE CAN BRING, UH, THE HEADSTART, UH, FOLKS IN FOR A PRESENTATION.
SO, SO ON MY LAST COMMENT, BEFORE WE GET INTO NEW BUSINESSES, UH, MS. NOEL MENTIONED TWO THINGS, DISAPPOINTMENT AND ELECTIONS, OKAY, PLEASE GET OUT THERE AND VOTE.
SO NEXT TIME WE MEET, I WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED IN THE ELECTIONS, OR YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED IN THE ELECTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, JERRY, YOU FORGOT ABOUT ME FOR, WELL, I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU, I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU, UH, I'M GONNA, UH, I'VE GOT THAT.
WELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, SHORT ADD ON TO SHEILA'S COMMENTS, I KNOW MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM WATCH THE BALL GAMES OVER THIS WEEKEND, RIGHT? AND, UH, WITH ALL OF THESE CANCELLATIONS THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT ANNUAL CANCELLATIONS, WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, I DIDN'T SEE A STADIUM, UH, WITH ONE MASK ON SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE WHAT IRONY ON THE ONE HAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AMERICANS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE FUN DOING IT.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THESE BUREAUCRATIC INSTITUTIONS, JUST LIKE THAT, BOOM, CANCELLATION, CANCELLATION, CANCELLATION, I DON'T GET IT.
AND FOOTNOTE, I SHARE YOUR DISAPPOINTMENT AND A YORKTOWN DAY BEING A SCALED BACK, IT'S A MISSION.
UM, PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP LIKE THE DUDE WITH THE STADIUMS, ALL RIGHT, MOVING OUT OF A COMMENT.
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INTO NEW BUSINESS.AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MR. ZAREMBA.
UM, THE NEW BUSINESS BY THE WAY, IS, IS INTENDED TO BE A RESOLUTION AND I'LL GET INTO IT.
AS I, UH, VERBALIZE A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UH, LAST WEEK I WAS PRETTY BUSY, UH, GOT HOME.
AND SOMEBODY SAID TO ME, DID YOU WATCH THE SCHOOL BOARD TAPE OF THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK? AND I SAID, NO, I JUST DON'T NORMALLY HAVE TIME TO WATCH THE SCHOOL BOARD UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY EXCITING TO WATCH.
SO ANYWAY, I CRANKED UP THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING FOR LAST WEEK AND I, WOW.
THEY FINALLY CAUGHT ME AFTER 26 YEARS OF SERVING THE CITIZENS OF YOUR COUNTY ON THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I WAS PILLARED PILLAR BY A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH WAS SECONDED BY ALL THE FOUR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THEIR COMMENTS WERE DITTO, DITTO, DITTO.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I WAS PILLAR PILLAR ABOUT.
I HAVE MADE SOME COMMENTS, SOME CHALLENGING COMMENTS ABOUT OUR SCHOOL CURRICULUM K THROUGH 12.
AND AS IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU BETTER START READING AND PAY ATTENTION, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF PANDEMIC THAT THIS COUNTRY IS FACED WITH.
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OF OUR SCHOOLS.THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING NOW FOR YEARS IN OUR INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION, BUT THERE'S A CREDIBLE ATTEMPT TO INCULCATE OUR SCHOOLS WITH SOMETHING CALLED CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
YOU WON'T SEE THE WORDS, CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN ANY LITERATURE.
YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
AND THEN LOOK AT THE OTHER WORDS IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU LOOK AT TO REALIZE, OH, IT MAY NOT BE CALLED CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
IT MAY NOT BE CALLED SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING.
IT MAY NOT BE CALLED CULTURAL RESPONSIVE TRAINING, BUT ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW WHAT THESE CONCEPTS ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
AND I SIMPLY, OF COURSE, I'M A KIND OF A GUY THAT CHALLENGES PEOPLE.
I LIKE TO BE TOLD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
OTHERWISE, I LIKE TO, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A POINT AND HAVE SOMETHING CHANGED OR CORRECTED, IF IT HAS TO BE CHANGED OR CORRECTED, ALL RIGHT.
NOW, PART OF THE PILLARING THAT TOOK PLACE ON THAT SCHOOL BOARD, ALL RIGHT, I HAVE TO DO WITH, OH, WELL, PROVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE CONCEPTS IN OUR CURRICULUM.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TALK TO PARENTS OF OUR SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ SOME OF THE SOURCE DOCUMENTATION IN POINT OF FACT, SOME OF THE SOURCE DOCUMENTATION OF THIS COUNTY SCHOOL DIVISION, MR. MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF BEING ONLINE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT, OKAY.
NOW TALK ABOUT, UH, NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO, TO CONCERNED PARENTS OF SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.
THE RAGE TOOK PLACE RIGHT AFTER THE LAST OF FIVE CONCERNED PARENTS ADDRESS THE SCHOOL BOARD LAST WEEK WITHOUT PAYING MUCH ATTENTION, IF ANY, TO WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE.
ALL RIGHT, THIS INDIVIDUAL CONTINUED TO PAY, TO TAKE UMBRAGE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT I LIKE TO DO IN TERMS OF TAKING A LOOK BEYOND THE SHEETS, WITH RESPECT TO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITH SOME OF THE DOCU DOCUMENTATION.
WHY ARE THESE WHY? FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WE'RE A VERY GROWING FAST GROWING MUNICIPALITY.
EVERY ONE OF US UP IN THE DYE REALIZED THAT OUR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IS DAMN NEAR OUT OF CONTROL.
WHAT DOES THAT IMPLY WE'RE GROWING IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS, RIGHT? WHY DID THE SCHOOL DIVISION STUDENT ATTENDANCE DECREASED BY ALMOST 700 STUDENTS LAST YEAR? IS IT BECAUSE MAYBE CONCERN PARENTS THAT DECIDE TO HOMESCHOOL THEIR CHILDREN? THAT'S A QUESTION.
THERE ARE GROUPS OF CONCERNED PARENTS MEETING, TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW TO GET THROUGH THE ACADEMIC YEAR.
WHEN IN FACT THEY DON'T WANT THEIR CHILDREN RECEIVING SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE BEING FACED WITH MY COMMENTS, MR. CHAIR, OR JUST BACKGROUND.
DO Y I NOW MOVE TO INCLUDE IN THIS NITROGEN, UNDER THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, THAT THE ANNOUNCES CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND ITS RELATED PRINCIPLES IN YORK COUNTY SCHOOLS, THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION IS PROMOTE ACADEMIC SUCCESS THROUGH EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES RESOLUTION YOU'LL IF YOU'LL PASS THESE ON ONE ALSO FOR THE ATTORNEY.
I GOT A BIT OF BUMPED SHOULDERS.
SO, UH, WHEN YOU GET THESE, UH, WHAT I SUGGESTED TO SHARE IS THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE ACCEPTED, UH, AT THE, AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THIS BOARD TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE ACCEPTED AND AGREED TO BY BOTH THE YORK COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AND THE YORK COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SHOULD THE SCHOOL BOARD DECLINED TO BE INVOLVED IN WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.
DO YOUR COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHOULD PROCEED UNILATERALLY WITH THE RESOLUTION AND ITS CONSEQUENCES THAT YIELD.
AND ONE MORE COMMENT, SHERMAN, A LITTLE FOOTNOTE TO MY COMMENTS.
THERE'S A WELL KNOWN, UH, AUTHOR PHILOSOPHER BY THE NAME OF SHAKESPEARE.
AND I KNOW WE'VE ALL HEARD ONE OF HIS FAMOUS COMMENTS OVER AND OVER, OVER AND OVER DURING OUR LIFETIME, IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
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I THINK YOU PROPOSE IN A TOO LOUD MANNER AND THE MORE THE, THE NOISE OPPOSING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH RESPECT TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR KIDS RECEIVED THE RIGHT KIND OF EDUCATION, THE MORE, THE LOUDER, THE NOISE OPPOSING.WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CERTAINLY SOMEWHAT OF AN INDICATION THAT THE ALLEGATION MIGHT BE TRUE.
I KNOW I SAID THAT WRONG, UH, WITH RESPECT TO MR. FISHER AND MR.
AND WHEN YOU SAY JOINT RESOLUTION, I'M ASSUMING YOU, YOU ARE THAT YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT THE TWO BOARDS WILL ACT INDEPENDENTLY THAT IT'S NOT COME INTO A JOINT MEETING AND CORRECT.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO GET IT ACROSS.
I'M MR. COFFEE ON THE BOARD AND ALL THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
UM, I WOULD NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT WERE TO BE CONSIDERED BY BOTH, IF THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS IF IT WAS JUST BEING CONSIDERED BY ONE MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.
UM, I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE IT WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT YOU COULD SHARE WITH THE CHAIRMAN, BUT WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL SHARE THE COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION WITH THE, UH, CHAIRMAN AND IF YOU COULD, WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, AND WE WILL PUT IT ON THE DOCKET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, IN OUR NOVEMBER MEETING OR DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS SEEING NONE WE'RE ADJOURNED.