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THE ORDER, THE SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2021 REGULAR MEETING OF THE YORK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION.THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON LAND USE AND PLANNING ISSUES AFFECTING THE COUNTY.
THE RESPONSIBILITY IT'S EXERCISE THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS, CONVEYED BY RESOLUTIONS OR OTHER OFFICIAL MEANS AND ALL ARE MATTERS OF PUBLIC RECORD.
THE COMMISSION IS COMPRISED OF CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD REPRESENTING EACH VOTING DISTRICT AND TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.
MS. TARTER, BON WHAT'D YOU CALL THE ROLE MR. HOLROYD.
MR. TITUS HERE, MR. TOLEDO HERE, MR. KING, MR. CRINER, MR. SMITH, MR. PETERMAN HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.
NOW IS THE TIME IF THERE'S ANY CITIZENS OUT THERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT THEY WISH TO OTHER THAN THE, THE, UH, APPLICATION UPS 99, 71 DASH 21, CNN,
[6. Application No. UP-971-21, Williamsburg Area Transit Authority: Request for a Special Use Permit, pursuant to Section 24.1-306 of the York County Zoning Ordinance (category 12, no. 16), to authorize the establishment of a bus terminal/transfer station on an approximately 4.3-acre parcel of land located at 6166 Old Mooretown Road (Route 1408) and further identified as GPIN C18a-0243-4780. The property is zoned EO (Economic Opportunity) and is designated Economic Opportunity in the Comprehensive Plan.]
UH, WE'LL GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPLICATION FOR A UPP 9 71 DASH 21 WILLIAMSBURG AREA TRANSIT AUTHORITY.THIS IS AN APPLICATION, UM, FOR A BUS TRANSFER STATION, UH, TO BE LOCATED AT 61 66 MORTON ROAD SPECIALTIES.
I WANT TO TAKE YOUR MASK, HIS MICROPHONE.
THIS IS A VICINITY MAP OF THE AREA.
THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN.
UH, IT'S ADJACENT TO, UH, THE SENTARA MEDICAL CENTER, UH, AND THE YMCA TO THE NORTH ON THE FAR SIDE OF MORE TOWN ROAD, FERGUSON ENTERPRISES, UM, MICHAEL COMMONS OFFICE PARK, THE, UH, AUBURNDALE AND THE ARBORS APARTMENTS AND A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE VICTORY VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, ON THE FAR SIDE OF OLD MORE TOWN ROAD THAT IS WITHIN, UM, JAMES CITY COUNTY AND, UH, ALL THE BUILDINGS YOU SEE THERE, THAT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED RESIDENTIAL ZONING MAP OF THE AREA.
UM, THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND SURROUNDING LAND IS ALL ZONED EO, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ACROSS MORE TOWN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
THE PD IS THE ARBOR DALE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AUBURNDALE, UM, DEVELOPMENT ARE, ARE, IS, UM, RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND RC IS RESOURCE CONSERVATION, WHICH IS THE NEWPORT NEWS WATERWORKS PROPERTY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, DESIGNATE DESIGNATES THIS AREA FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WITHIN JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UH, THE ZONING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, OLD MORE TOWN IS, ARE TWO GENERAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE EQUIVALENT OF OUR, OUR, OUR ZONING.
IT'S ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND PROTECTION AREA OVERLAY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT'S WITHIN THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR A WALLER MILL RESERVOIR.
AND IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MANAGEMENT OVERLAY.
UH, THERE WAS A, OR IS A ART ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
AERIAL PHOTO APPLICANTS, UM, OUTLINED IN RED, IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH HEAVILY FORESTED.
UH, RIGHT NOW PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS STANDING OFF OF FULL OF FONTS BOULEVARD, LOOKING STRAIGHT ACROSS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, LOOKING ON, UH, NORTH ON MORTON, THE LIGHT YOU SEE IN THE DISTANCE IS THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE HOSPITAL AND OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
BUILDING ON THE LEFT IS, UM, FERGUSON ENTERPRISES AND STANDING ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, LOOKING INTO THE, UH, INTERSECTION THERE, LOOK IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION DOWN, UM, UM, HONOR LANE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT.
AND THIS IS FURTHER LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTION OF HONOR
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LANE AND, UH, OLD MORGANTOWN ROAD CLARK LANE IS WHERE THE HOUSE IS.YOU SEE, THERE ARE, COMES OFF THE OTHER END OF THE INTERSECTION, AND THIS IS LOOKING AT NORTH ON OLD MORE TOWN ROAD.
ANOTHER SHOT IN THAT SAME DIRECTION.
YOU SEE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE AND LOOKING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
THIS IS THE BACK PART OF THE YAM CA AND I WAS SHOWING THIS, UM, THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING A SIDEWALK LINK BACK TO WHERE THIS, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A VEHICLE ACCESS THAT GOES AROUND THE BACK THERE.
SO THEY WOULD CONNECT THAT WITH THE SIDEWALK FROM THE SITE, THE APPLICANT SKETCH PLAN SHOWING SIX, UM, THESE DIAGONAL SIX PARKING PLACES FOR THE BUSES WOULD INCLUDE A BUS SHELTER IN THE CENTER.
AND THEN, UH, A BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND A DRIVER'S LOUNGE FOR THE DRIVERS THERE, PEDESTRIAN PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, THE SIDEWALK, THE SKETCH PLAN IS SHOWING IT GOING OUT TO THE MORE TOWN, UM, PORTER LANE INNER SECTION.
WE HAVE, UH, REQUESTED A APPROVAL CONDITION THAT WOULD HAVE THE SIDEWALK COME ACROSS ALL OF HORNER LANE TO FACILITATE FUTURE CONNECTIONS OVER, ACROSS MORE 10TH AT THE EXISTING MULTI-USE PATH.
THEY'RE ON OLD WATERTOWN ROAD.
I'M ALSO SHOWING, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE CONNECTION, A SIDEWALK CONNECTION, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, BACK TO THE YMCA SITE ON OLD MORE TOWN ROAD, THERE IS A REQUIRED A 45 FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER THAT'S SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND A GREENBELT ALONG MORE TOWN ROAD.
THEY'RE ALSO SHOWING A POTENTIAL STORM WATER, UM, FACILITY, AND, UM, THEY'LL NEED TO SUBMIT DETAILED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL PLANS DRAWN UP YET AT THIS AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY DID SUBMIT SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL FACADE PLANS FOR THE FACILITIES THAT THEY PLAN TO, UH, TO INSTALL THERE.
AND WE DO HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, RECOMMENDING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT, UM, ARCHITECTURE FOR THE SITE IS, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS IN SUMMARY, BE A BUS TRANSFER STATION 4.3 ACRES.
THE FACILITY IS GOING TO REPLACE A TRANSFER AREA.
THEY HAVE, UH, OVER IN THE WALMART PARKING LOT.
SO TH THIS WOULDN'T GET THEM OFF THE WALMART PROPERTY ONTO THEIR OWN PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A 1500 SQUARE FOOT CUSTOMER SERVICE DRIVER'S LOUNGE BUILDING 1,380 SQUARE FOOT BUS SHELTER, SIX BUS PARKING SPACES AND PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS ACCESS WOULD BE ONLY OFF A FOREIGNER LANE, UH, NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION, 6:00 AM TO 8:30 PM ON OCCASION.
IT MAY RUN LATER THAN THAT, DEPENDING ON THE SEASON.
AS I MENTIONED, IT IS IN THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PROTECTION AREA, UH, STORMWATER FACILITY, UH, SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND THEY'LL GET MORE DETAILED PLANS FOR SITE PLAN.
IT IS IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES MANAGEMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THERE'S A SMALL, UM, ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE ON THAT SITE PREVIOUSLY THAT INDICATED IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR EITHER THE VIRGINIA LANDMARKS HISTORIC RECORD OR NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
SO THEREFORE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT OVERLAY DISTRICT, NO FURTHER ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY WOULD REQUIRED BEFORE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
AS I MENTIONED, 35 FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER ALONG OLD MORE TOWN, WE HAVE REQUESTED A, AN APPROVAL CONDITION THAT THAT'D BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH A SOLID BOARD FENCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE NORMALLY DO WHEN IT'S, UH, WHEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ACROSS THE WAY TO HELP SCREEN THAT A 45 FOOT GREENBELT LANDSCAPE WILL BE REQUIRED ALONG MORE TOWN.
AND AS I MENTIONED, SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FULL LENGTH OF CORNER AND A CONNECTION TO THE Y M C A LOT.
IN, UH, TRAFFIC SUMMARY, UM, ACCORDING TO INFORMATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, THAT WOULD BE, UH, AN AVERAGE OF EIGHT BUS TRIPS PER HOUR ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, NO MORE THAN THREE EMPLOYEES ON SITE AT ANY ONE TIME WITH THIS BEING A TRANSFER AREA, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING A MUCH CUSTOMER TRAFFIC ON IT.
UM, OUR ESTIMATED AVERAGE DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS, UH, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE 128.
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ACCORDING TO VIETA REPORTS, MORE TOWN ROAD, ANNUAL DAILY VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS 8,700 ON THIS PART OF MORE TOWN ROAD AND HORNER LANE, UH, IS ABOUT 120.UM, THE APPLICANTS INDICATED THAT THE BUS ACCESS IS PLANNED TO BE JUST FROM MORRISTOWN ROAD AND HORNER LANE.
SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ACCESSING FROM A OLD, MORE TANA.
UH, MOSTLY IT WAS SOME EMERGENCY OR, OR A SPECIAL ISSUE.
SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON ANY OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC UP THERE WITHOUT SMALL NUMBER OF TRIPS.
UH, ALSO NOTE THE S THERE WILL BE A SIGNAL AT THE MORE TOWN HORNER OLEFINS BOULEVARD INTERSECTION, THEN COORDINATE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN A YEAR INCLUSION.
UH, IT'S A NEEDED REGIONAL FACILITY, UH, CERTAINLY A BETTER IMPROVEMENT FOR SAFETY AND CONVENIENCE THAN THE WALMART PARKING LOT, UM, WOULD HELP EXPAND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS IN SIDEWALKS OFF THE PROPERTY TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, UH, ADJACENT TO IT.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY HAS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT TO SUPPORT EXPANSION OF, UH, WATER FACILITIES IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE COUNTY.
SO, AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION PC 21 DASH 14.
THANK YOU, MS. PARKER, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS GREENBERG SINCE, UM, THE, UH, HARBOR DALE, UM, APARTMENTS AND, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS ON BULL FONTS ROAD.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNAL THERE AT BOTH FAVS ROAD.
IS IT ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE A PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL? THE COUNTY HAS PLANS TO HAVE A PROTEST PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
MR. FORWARD TWO QUESTIONS, AMY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER FACILITY THAT WATER WOULD BE SHUTTING DOWN OTHER THAN THE WALMART PARKING LOT? NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF, THAT WE DIDN'T ASK THE APPLICANT, THE RIDERSHIP EFFECT THIS AN INCREASE OR DECREASE OF RIDERSHIP.
DOES IT, DOES IT AFFECT THIS OUTCOME OR THE NEED FOR THIS BUS? I AM ASSUMING IT DOES AGAIN, THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS.
WHAT'S THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION? YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SOLID FENCE, SO THAT'S ONLY ON THE,
HE'S NEWEST MEMBER TO THE COMMISSION AS MR. SMITH.
JUST, I NOTICE THAT THE PROPERTY AS A JOINT, UH, BY JAMES CITY COUNTY, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR INPUTS FROM THE COUNTY? YES, THEY, THEY SENT A COMMENT LETTER, BASICALLY.
THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD THE SAME COMMENTS.
WE DID THE, UH, UH, REQUESTED SIDEWALKS.
UM, MS. BARKER, JUST, I THINK I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, I THINK THERE'S FOUR ROUTES THAT GO TO THE TERMINAL, THE HUB RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANY INCREASE IN THOSE PERHAPS OR DECREASED THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO, AND THEN JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, ALMOST THAT THE NATURE OF THE LITTLE HISTORICAL SITE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE NATURE OF THAT WAS JUST FROM MY OWN? I'M NOT SURE I COULD LOOK IT UP.
IT WAS THERE TO MENTIONED AND, AND I SAID, OH, LET'S BE INTERESTING.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR YOU, MS. PARKER, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE HAVE, UH, THANK YOU, MS. PARKER.
I THINK WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
UH, MR. OR ZACK, UH, DRUGGED HIM, DRAGGED HIM OFF.
UH, IF YOU'LL COME UP, UM, THEN CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, OH, YES, SIR.
I THINK YOU GOT FIVE MINUTES OR SO IT WAS FIVE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS ZACH
UM, MY HOME ADDRESS IS 2 0 4 SHOAL CREEK WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA.
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ADMINISTRATIVE ADDRESS IS 7 2 3 9 POCAHONTAS TRAIL.AND WE USE WHERE VIRGINIA, UM, WE'RE KIND OF AT THE NEXUS OF YORK AND, AND, UH, JAMES CITY COUNTY OVER THERE.
IT'S FUNNY HOW THIS PROPOSAL, WE, WE DEAL WITH ALL THREE LOCALITIES, BUT EVERYTHING WE DO, AND EVEN COMING UP THIS FAR INTO LIGHTFOOT, WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE WATERSHED PART.
SO IT WAS LIKE WE CAN NEVER QUITE EXTRICATE OURSELVES AND HAVING TO REALLY KIND OF DEAL WITH ALL THREE LOCALITIES.
BUT, UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, UM, FOR THIS, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR US.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I HOPE I CAN ADDRESS AS I GO THROUGH.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF HAS ADDRESSED THE APPLICATION EXTREMELY WELL ALREADY.
SO I WAS GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO ACTUALLY JUST TELL SOME OF YOU THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, UH, JUST A COUPLE MINUTES ABOUT WADA ITSELF, IF YOU, IF YOU'D ALLOW ME.
SO, UM, THE WAYNESBURG AREA TRANSIT AUTHORITY, WE ACTUALLY STARTED AS JAMES CITY COUNTY TRANSIT BACK IN 1977, AS THINGS STARTED REGIONALIZED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, LIKE A LOT OF THINGS, THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION DON'T RECOGNIZE JURISDICTIONAL LINES, JUST LIKE EMPLOYMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AS I STARTED TO REGIONALIZE BECAME WILLIAMSBURG AREA TRANSPORT, UM, WHICH REALLY INVOLVED THOSE ENTITIES THERE, UH, ALONG WITH JAMES CITY COUNTY, YORK COUNTY CITY WILLIAMSBURG, AND WE'VE BEEN MARRIED, KIND OF JOINED IN AT THAT POINT.
UM, AND IN 2006 IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE, SOME OF THE LOCAL OFFICIALS HAD THE FORESIGHT TO CREATE AN AUTHORITY THAT BASICALLY ALLOWED US WE'RE A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.
UM, BUT WE'RE ABLE, SO WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THE FUNDING AND STATE, UM, STATE STREET, EXCUSE ME, FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, TO HELP US OPERATE OUR SERVICES.
AND THEN SOME, WE GET LOCAL FUNDING TO MATCH THAT AND ALLOW US TO LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS.
UM, OFFICIALLY WE BEGAN OPERATIONS AS THE, AS WADA IN 2008 AFTER, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION PERIOD OF, OF, UM, OF THE FOUNDING BASICALLY, AND, UH, DEVELOPING THE, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONS STRUCTURE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MARY AND, UM, THE DIVISION OF, UH, DEPARTMENT OF RAIL AND PUBLIC TRANSIT, EXCUSE ME AT, UH, V DOT OUR NON-VOTING MEMBERS ON OUR BOARD.
IN ADDITION TO THE THREE LOCALITIES HAVE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND THEN THE CLINIC IS BRICK FOUNDATION DOES, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU SORT OF GEOGRAPHIC EXTENT OF OUR, UM, OF OUR SERVICE.
I MEAN, YOU GOT LIGHTFOOT UP HERE WHERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
AND WE GO DOWN AS FAR AS LEE HALL, UM, TO CONNECT TO HRT AND THE CITY OF NEWPORT NEWS GO DOWN TO JAMESTOWN RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHICALLY, WE RECOVER A LOT AREA, UM, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THAT'S JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE TOO MUCH TIME SOAK THAT IN, AND THEN SOMETIMES WE'D JUST LIKE TO SHOW SORT OF HOW OVER THOSE DECADES, AND I GUESS WE NEED TO ADD A SLIDE HERE IN 2005, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE DATED ITSELF, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HOW IT'S MADE, WE'VE MAINTAINED SOME CORE AREAS, SORT OF THAT 61 43 QUARTERS, ALWAYS GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PENINSULA AND THE RAILROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE KIND OF ONLY HAVE SO MANY CHOICES, BUT STARTING TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE CAN TRACK A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN WE SPREAD BACK OUT SOME, BUT I'M SORTA STILL HITTING THOSE CORE AREAS.
SO IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO SEE HOW WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HOW WATER HAS CHANGED OVER THAT 40 PLUS YEARS.
UM, JUST REAL QUICKLY TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AS FUNDING, I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, WE DO, WE HAVE A LOT OF INTER INTER GOVERNMENTAL REVENUES, FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL.
SO ALL OF THEM KIND OF COME TOGETHER.
WE ARE ABLE TO LEVERAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW OF THOSE FEDERAL AND STATE REVENUES.
THEY DO SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UM, QUITE WELL.
AND THEN WE DO COLLECT FARES ALSO THAT, UM, PERHAPS ONLY COME TO ABOUT 10 TO 12% OF OUR OPERATING, BUT IT DOES HELP TO DO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, THESE ARE ALL, ALL OF OUR FIXED ROUTES RIGHT NOW.
IN FACT, I'VE GOT NEED TO FIX THIS ROUTE 13, SORRY.
WE ACTUALLY DISCONTINUED THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME STAFFING SHORTAGES IN THE PANDEMIC AND SOME FUNDING CHALLENGES FROM SOME OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS.
SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE DO SERVE DOWN HERE, YORK.
THE LACKEY ROUTE WAS REALLY ONE OF OUR MORE RECENT ROUTES IF C ROUTE 11, THAT ACTUALLY STARTED COMING DOWN INTO THE LAC AREA OF YOUR COUNTY.
I THINK YOU, YOU ALL, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, BACK WHEN THAT WAS, THAT WAS STARTED, UH, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
UM, THEN THE OTHER ONES HAVE KIND OF, UM, JUST GROWN SOME OVER THE YEARS, UH, SERVE A LOT OF SAME AREAS.
AGAIN, THOSE CORE AREAS, ALONG THE, ALONG OUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION QUARTERS, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, IF YOU GO OUT, WE HAVE PROVIDING REAL-TIME INFORMATION IS THE THING.
NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
YOU CAN LOOK AT AMAZON PACKAGE, YOU CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT PERSON IS.
I RECENTLY, I GOT SMALL VEHICLES.
I CAN KNOW WHAT THAT TOW TRUCK IS.
UM, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, SECOND-BY-SECOND, SO WE ALSO HAVE, OUR BUSES CAN BE TRACKED.
SO SOME CAN GO ON DESKTOP APPLICATION ON A MOBILE APP AND FIND OUT WHERE THAT BUS IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, ALSO OF COURSE, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE TRANSFER FACILITY AND NORTHERN EUROPE, YOUR COUNTY IN JAMES CITY, COUNTY AND LIGHTFOOT.
THAT'S BEEN A BIG PROJECT FOR US TO GET US OUT OF THAT SITUATION AT WALMART.
UM, THE ADMINISTRATION MAINTENANCE CYLINDER IN POLK, AUSTRALIA IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AS WELL.
THAT'S A, IT'LL GIVE US A NEW, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, A NEW
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FACILITY OVER THERE THAT WHERE WE DO OUR MAINTENANCE AND HAVE OUR OFFICES.SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG PROJECT FOR US OVER, FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT ONE.
UM, WE'VE GOT ROUTE PLANNING, SOFTWARE ALLOWS US TO SORT OF WORK WITH BOARDS LIKE YOU, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR SERVICE PLANNING IS OVER, OVER THE NEXT, UM, YOU KNOW, YEARS OR WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AT THE TIME.
SO, AND IT ALSO MOBILE PAYMENT OPTIONS IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON CASH IS CERTAINLY NOT KING ANYMORE.
I MEAN, IT HELPS, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PAY WITH LIKE A MOBILE APP OR SOMETHING.
SO WE SEE THAT AS POTENTIALLY HELPING WITH RIDERSHIP HELP WITH A YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC.
ONCE WE START TO, AS WE DEVELOP THAT ALSO JUST INSTALLING MORE SHELTERS, AMENITIES, AGAIN, MORE TECHNOLOGY FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO KEEP OUR FLEET UP TO DATE, TO, TO DECREASE MAINTENANCE COSTS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE OUT THERE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
UM, THERE'S A, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF REAL-TIME INFORMATION IS SOMETHING CALLED THE TRANSIT APP.
EVERYBODY GET IT ON YOUR MOBILE PHONE, YOU CAN TAKE IT, YOU CAN USE IT IN NEW YORK CITY.
YOU CAN DO IT IN WILLIAMSBURG.
YOU CAN USE IT IN PARIS OR CHICAGO, WHEREVER.
SO, UM, WE'RE A PART OF THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF THAT.
BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION ON SUCH A, UM, ON-DEMAND BASIS.
THIS IS A DESKTOP, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE WE'RE ABLE TO BE TRACKED IN GOOGLE MAPS AND APPLE MAPS, SHAVER PLAN YOUR TRIP WITH US.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT SEE AS WELL.
UM, LOOKING AHEAD, THIS IS SOMETHING JUST ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT SORT OF A LOT OF THE SAME, SAME THEMES AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH ALL THE KALDI'S ALWAYS GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TRYING TO PLAN SERVICE AND IN REGARD TO CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS IN DEMAND.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST OUR CAPITAL PROJECT FACILITIES LIKE THIS ONE, WE'RE HERE TO APPLY ABOUT TONIGHT CHALLENGES EVEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT WAS BECOMING PARTICULARLY ACUTE NOW IS JUST OUR STAFFING.
UM, I THINK ALL OF YOU PROBABLY ARE SEEING THAT AS WELL, JUST IN EVERY SECTOR OF THE ECONOMY.
UM, YOU KNOW, RIDERSHIP, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO, TO ATTRACT MORE AS WELL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PART OF A POLITICAL PROCESS OF FUNDING.
STREAMS CAN SOMETIMES BECOME THIS LITTLE ANXIETY PRODUCING, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DEAL WITH MAYBE, UH, WHAT IS THE THING CALLED AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL? THEY HAVE A, UM, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE TERM NOW THAT THEY JUST DECIDED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS A BUDGET.
SO, UM, SO WE SOMETIMES DEAL WITH THAT.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE THROW IN THERE, NORMALLY SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BUILD ROADS AND, AND, AND KEEP EXPANDING EVERYTHING.
BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, A MASS TRANSIT CAN BE THAT, THAT EFFICIENT, UM, THAT EFFICIENT VEHICLE, YOU NEED TO HELP MOVE PEOPLE ALONG WITHOUT, WITHOUT CONGESTION.
SO I'M JUST SORT OF A LITTLE THING JUST TO, JUST TO POINT OUT SORT OF SOME OF THE MATHEMATICS OF THE PHYSICS OF IT, YOU MIGHT SAY.
UM, SO ON THIS STUDY HERE, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR ABOUT THIS FACILITY.
WE LOOKED AT TONS OF PLACES AROUND THAT, AROUND THAT AREA.
SO WE HAVE NO FORM AGREEMENT WITH WALMART.
WE USED TO BE OVER IN THE WAYS BERG OUTLET MALL THAT OF COURSE GOT LEVELED AND HARRIS TEETER IS THERE NOW.
SO WATER BEFORE I WAS EVEN HERE, UM, HAD, HAD TO MOVE FROM THAT.
SO THAT'S KINDA HOW WE ENDED UP AT WALMART AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST GOT A LOT OF, TRAFFIC'S NOT THE SAFEST, NOT ANYBODY'S FAULT, BUT, UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS US JUST TRYING TO FIND OUR OWN PLACE TO KIND OF CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY AND BE ABLE TO GROW AS WE SEE FIT OR DEVELOP THINGS AS WE SEE FIT.
WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO STAY AROUND LONG AROUND LIGHTFOOT.
SO WE HAVE THESE FOUR ROUTES GO THERE.
UM, AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEY CONVERGE ON WALMART RIGHT THERE.
SO WE'LL BE MOVING THAT OVER TO THE LIGHTFOOT OVER TO THAT, UH, MOTOWN ROAD, HORNER ROAD AREA, HOPEFULLY.
SO THAT JUST SHOWS YOU WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO STAY IN THAT AREA.
SO WHAT THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO BE, UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING WE JUST KIND OF TALKED WITH OUR BOARD ABOUT, UM, A BUS TRANSFER FACILITY, WHAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE.
THIS WAS JUST VERY IMPORTANT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WITH MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, FUEL, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THERE THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS, AT THIS POINT.
SO, UM, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PARKING RIDE WITH LIKE, UH, MS. PARKER MENTIONED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OTHER PERSONAL VEHICLES COMING IN AND STUFF.
IT REALLY WOULD BE NO REASON FOR THAT.
NOT SAYING THAT WON'T BE THE OCCASIONAL ONE, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DESIGNED IT FOR.
SO, UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY ALL I HAD.
I GOT, SORRY, I KNOW I CAN FINISH UP EARLIER, BUT YOU, THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE, WE SETTLED ON THIS ONE BECAUSE WE HAD REALLY LOOKED AT MOVING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND A PLACE.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN EVEN A LITTLE MORE ISOLATED.
WE PERHAPS HAD SOME PROPERTY, BUT THE BOARD MADE IT TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MADE A DECISION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO SAY, WE WANT TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY SO THAT WE CAN BE TRANSFERRING IN THOSE AREAS.
SO THIS IS WHY WE WE'VE TAKEN A CHANCE GOING AFTER THIS PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL DECISION ON THEIR PART TO SAY, WE NEED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS.
AND WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROPERTY FOR THEM TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS, THIS INTERSECTION IS GROWING SO MUCH AROUND THE LIFE, THAT AREA GROWING.
SO, UM, WE HOPE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WAS SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FITS IN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE COUNTY.
AND IT COULD BE A REAL ASSET TO THAT AREA, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA.
AND, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I COULD HAVE 10 SECONDS.
SO I HAD A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS ALSO, THEY WANT AS OUR DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, JOSH MOORE, AND OUR BUDGET AND GRANTS MANAGER, BARBARA, REAL, THEY CAN'T DO ON ALSO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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ONE SECOND, NINE MINUTES, 59.ANY, ANY QUESTIONS MR.
MR. SMITH, MR. CRIER REPRESENTATION.
I LEARNED A LOT JUST BY LOOKING AT THIS APPLICATION AND THE MAPS.
I DID NOT KNOW THE MAPS AS YOU KNOW, SO I LOOKED AT THEM, LOOKED THEM UP AND, UH, THAT WAS AN EDUCATION FOR ME.
I WOULD SAY IT'S LIKE MR. PETERMAN SAID, I THINK THE, THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND JUST ALL THE CONDITIONS WE FOUND TO BE VERY FAIR.
AND SO WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING A GOOD DEVELOPING A GOOD SCHOOL.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE? LET'S TALK TO THIS.
SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPENED IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS, MR. KING, NO DISCUSSION.
I DON'T HAVE A DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THERE'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND IT'S PROBABLY A LONG TIME COMING WHERE YOU NEEDED SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND, UM, I KNOW HRT HAS GONE THROUGH THIS MODE AND, UH, AND, AND THE OTHER AREAS OF HAMPTON ROADS, WHERE THEY USED TO MEET IN SHOPPING MALL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND I WISH THE BEST OF YOU.
AND I'LL BE SUBORDINATE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IF IT'S IN WITH A 2040, IT, IT DOES FIT IN WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT, UH, FACILITY THAT COULD BE USEFUL UP THERE.
MY ONLY CONCERN AT ONE TIME WAS WHETHER IT WAS, UH, COORDINATED WITH THE, WHY WOULD THAT SIDEWALK GOING THROUGH THERE? UH, IF IT IS NOW, WE'LL BE IN THE FUTURE, I ASSUME.
AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE ON THAT.
UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE TO, UH, FOR PC 21 DICE 14, MR. CHAIRMAN ON MOVE FORWARD, UH, PC 2114 ONTO THE, OKAY.
UH, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL? THE MOTION BY MR. GREINER IS TO ADAPT PC 2114 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BUS TERMINAL TRANSFER BUS TERMINAL STATION AT 61 66 OLD MARTIN ROAD.
MR. TY, THAT'S THE MOTION PASSES.
UH, IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS WE WANT TO THANK FOR CNN? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? OKAY.
[9. Staff Reports/Recent Actions by the Board of Supervisors]
THERE ANY STAFF REPORTS, RECENT ACTIONS BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? THANK YOU.MR. CHAIRMAN IS NOT A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT THIS MONTH.
THERE ARE NO RECENT BOARD ACTIONS BECAUSE ALL OF THE CASES THAT YOU'VE HANDLED HAVE BEEN SETTLED AND, UH, THERE ARE NO LAND USE CASES COMING UP ON THE, UH, BOARD SEPTEMBER 21ST AGENDA.
AS FAR AS TONIGHT'S APPLICATION, THERE'S KIND OF A QUIRK IN THE SCHEDULE THIS YEAR.
UH, ORDINARILY IT WOULD GO TO THE OCTOBER 19TH BOARD MEETING OCTOBER 19TH IS YORKTOWN DAY, WHICH IS A COUNTY HOLIDAY.
SO THE BOARD WILL NOT BE MEETING THAT NIGHT.
SO THE PUBLIC, THEY ARE GOING TO, UH, CONSIDER OR HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, AT THEIR FIRST MEETING OCTOBER, WHICH IS OCTOBER 5TH.
NORMALLY THAT'S A WORK SESSION.
IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE A REGULAR MEETING TO TAKE PLACE AT THE OCTOBER 19TH.
SO YEAH, OCTOBER 5TH IS WHEN, UH, UH, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS GOING TO GO FORWARD TO THE BOARD AS FAR AS THE COMMISSION'S, UH, UPCOMING AGENDA, OCTOBER 13TH.
ONE IS AN OIL CHANGE FACILITY, UH, DOWN AT THE CORNER OF ROUTE 17 AND ORIANA ROAD.
SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE UNSUCCESSFUL SEVEN 11 APPLICATION, UH, FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE OIL CHANGE FACILITY IS ACTUALLY NOT USING, UH, THE SAME.
THEY'RE ONLY USING THE, UH, OR, UH, PURCHASING THE PARCEL RIGHT THERE AT THE QUARTER.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, ACQUIRING THE ADDITIONAL LAND FURTHER DOWN BORIANA ROAD.
AND THE OTHER APPLICATION ON THE OCTOBER 13TH AGENDA IS FOR A USE PERMIT FOR A TOURISM IN NEW YORK TERRACE SUBDIVISION, UH, UP THE UPPER COUNTY OFF OF PENNIMAN ROAST.
AND, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MR. SMITH, UH, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED AT LARGE MEMBER.
AND, UH, TELL YOU WHERE WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
[10. Committee Reports]
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ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? YES.UH, OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, 2040 COMMITTEE, UH, HELD A MEETING IN THE UPPER COUNTY, A BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL, UH, ONE WEEK AGO TODAY, AND, UH, EXCEPTIONAL TURNOUT FOR A PUBLIC MEETING.
THERE WAS ABOUT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, 55 CITIZENS TURNED OUT ONE OF THE LARGER, UH, ATTENDANCES WE'VE SEEN IN A WHILE FOR THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS.
UM, STAFF GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION ON OVERVIEW OF, UH, OF, UM, EXISTING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT'S IN THE CURRENT CONFERENCE AND PLAN TO THE MEMBERS AND THE AUDITORIUM.
AND THEN WE HAD, UH, SOME MAPS OUT IN A FOYER AND, UH, ENCOURAGED TO CITIZENS TO COME OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND WHOEVER ELSE WAS THERE THAT KIND OF ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED, UH, A BUNCH OF FEEDBACK THAT STAFF PROVIDED SOME COMMENT FORMS. WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS, SUGGESTIONS ON, ON, ON, UH, UM, ADDITIONS TO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE, UH, FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE UPPER COUNTY, UH, LIGHTFOOT AREA AND SKIM MINNOW.
AND, UM, AND SO IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.
WE ARE PLANNING ANOTHER ONE, SEPTEMBER 15TH AT TAB, UM, LIBRARY AND THE MEETING ROOM.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FROM SEVEN TO NINE 10.
AND THAT'LL KIND OF COVER THE BASIS FOR THE LOWER COUNTY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM IF NOT GO TO THE, UH, COUNTY, UH, COMP PLAN WEBSITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE INFORMATION THERE IF YOU WANT TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
I DON'T WANT TO QUESTION MR. KING.
WHERE WOULD WE FIND THE CITIZEN COMMENTS? IS THAT POSTED ONLINE OR ACCESS THE SYMBOL BY COMMISSIONERS NOW, INSTEAD OF SOME COMMENTS AND ARE POSTED ONLINE, HOW SHOULD THE COMMISSIONERS ANTICIPATE OR VIEW THOSE COMMENTS? COMMENTS ARE FORWARDED TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? UH, THEY WILL BE AFFORDED THE COMMISSION WHEN THE PLAN GETS TO THE COMMISSION.
WE GO TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
THEY'LL COME FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION.
ALL THE COMMENTS THAT RECEIVED COMMENTS THAT ARE RECEIVED, UH, WILL BE SENT TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN ONTO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE FOR UPPER COUNTY, SHEILA MEYER, UM, AND MONTE JOHNS WOULD HAVE THEM AS WELL.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER REPORTS AND REQUESTS AND, UH, SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS MEETINGS.