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[Call to Order]
GOOD EVENING.AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 20TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE REVEREND LEMON TO THE PODIUM.
IF SHE COULD GIVE US THE ADVOCATION, PLEASE, BUT SHE IS FROM SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, INCLUDING US IN THIS MEETING.
OUR PRAYER IS ALWAYS WITH YOU.
AS YOU DETERMINE THE LAWS THAT GUIDE AND GOVERN YOUR COUNTY.
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN THIS PRAYER ON THIS EVENING WITH A WORD FROM THE PSALMIST.
DAVID WHO WROTE IN PSALMS ONE, BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO WALK.
IF NOT IN THE COUNSEL OF THE UNGODLY, NO STANDARD IN THE WAY OF SINNERS NOR SITS IN THE SEAT OF THE SCORNFUL.
BUT HIS DELIGHT IS IN THE LAW OF THE LORD.
AND IN HIS LAW, DOES HE MEDITATE DAY AND NIGHT, DAVID DECLARED THAT HE SHALL BE LIKE A TREE PLANTED BY THE RIVERS OF WATER THAT BRINGS FORTH HIS FRUIT AND A SEASON IS LEE SHALL NOT WITHER.
AND WHATSOEVER HE DO AT SHALL PROSPER.
PSALMS 33 AND 12 SAYS BLESSED IS THE NATIONS WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD.
LET US GO TO GOD IN PRAYER GRACIOUS, FATHER, HEAVENLY GOD.
WE COME ONCE AGAIN ON THIS DAY OF LIFE THAT YOU HAVE GRANTED INTO US.
AND WE SIMPLY WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU.
AND WE RECOGNIZE YOU AS A SOVEREIGN GOD THAT REIGNS A ROOM OVER HEAVEN AND EARTH.
WE THANK THE YOGA ONCE AGAIN FOR THE GATHERING OF YOUR PEOPLE, THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND WE PRAY YOUR GOD IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO GUIDE THEM, LEAD THEM AND GIVE THEM DIRECTION CONCERNING OR GOD, YOUR COUNTY.
OH GOD, FOR THE RICH HISTORY OF THIS COUNTY, WE THANK YOU.
OH GOD, FOR THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH WE STAND.
AND WE PRAY NOW GOD THAT AS THEY TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS, THE FAST THAT WILL GUIDE THIS HERE COUNTY, WE PRAY, OH GOD, THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM.
WE PRAY YOUR GOD THAT YOU WOULD KEEP THEM ON ONE ACCORD.
WE PRAY, OH GOD, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK IN HARMONY OR GOD AND ABOVE ALL THAT.
THEY WILL REMEMBER THOSE THAT PUT THEM IN PLACE.
WE PRAY, OH GOD, THAT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO COME TO LIVE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.
NOW GOD, THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH US, WE ASK GOD THAT YOU WOULD JUST HAVE YOUR WAY IN JESUS NAME.
I'D LIKE TO CALL HIM MR. RUMBA TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL, MR. ZAREMBA.
[A Special Recognition. Receive presentation from Terry Banez, Greater Williamsburg Business Council.]
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON TERRY BEN AS WELL, THE GREATER WAIVERS FOR BUSINESS COUNCIL, AND SHE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION TONIGHT.SO I HAVE MY CHAIR, JULIE SUMS FROM THE COLLEGE OF WILLIAM AND MARY WITH ME.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU MR. CHAIR, AND YOU MISSED HER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DOWN TO LET US PRESENT TO YOU.
SO I GET THE PRIVILEGE OF TELLING YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE DRAMA WARD.
IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1967 BY THE CHAIR.
UM, JIM KELLY FROM WOMEN, MARY, AND THIS AWARD GOES AS OUR MOST DISTINGUISHED AWARD.
AND IT GOES, IT'S GIVEN OUT ON THE YEAR WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS DESERVING OF IT.
IT'S AN AWARD THAT GOES TO A DISTINGUISHED INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE SOMETHING STELLAR IN THEIR CAREER TO SUPPORT OUR GREATER WILLIAMSBURG AREA BOARDS FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO THIS YEAR WE'RE REALLY HONORED TO GIVE IT TO YOUR COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY AND THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG FOR YOUR WORK DURING THE PANDEMIC.
AND NOW JULIE WILL SHARE THE PROCLAMATION THAT GOES WITH THE AWARD.
AND IT'S ALWAYS THE HONOR OF THE CHAIR TO SELECT
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THE ROLE OF THE DRUM RECIPIENT.AND I COULDN'T THINK OF BETTER RECIPIENTS THAN THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES OF GREATER WILLIAMSBURG, CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, AND YORK COUNTY FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG CHAMBER AND TOURISM ALLIANCE AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG CHAMBER AND TOURISM ALLIANCE WISHES TO HONOR THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, JAMES CITY, COUNTY, AND YORK COUNTY FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS TO CHANGE THEIR SERVICE MODEL TO ONE THAT WAS LARGELY VIRTUAL, THEIR TIRELESS ATTENTION TO THE WELL-BEING OF HER CITIZENS AND THEIR SELFLESS DEDICATION TO WILLIAMSBURG AREA BUSINESS COMMUNITY DURING THE WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC.
AND WHEREAS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS AND THEIR TEAMS SHOWED DETERMINATION, CLEAR DECISION-MAKING AND TRUE LEADERSHIP AND ADVANCING THESE EFFORTS.
AND WHEREAS THE THREE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES PIONEERED IN SOME CASES AND PROVIDED SUPPORT IN OTHER CASES IN LEARNING METHODS NEEDED FOR K THROUGH 12 EDUCATION FACILITIES TO ALLOW FOR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, TEACHERS, AND STAFF, TO CONTINUE LEARNING AND FALL NOT FALL FURTHER BEHIND DURING THIS CRISIS.
AND WHEREAS THE THREE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES COMMITTED STAFF PROGRAMS, FISCAL RESOURCES TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING AMONG OTHERS, THE SMALL BUSINESS RELIEF 30 DAY FUND.
AND WHEREAS THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES HAD IS THEIR CHAMPIONS, THEIR LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO RESPOND TO AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND LOCAL HOSPITALS AND MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH DURING THE PANDEMIC.
AND WHEREAS THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES PARTNERED WITH EACH OTHER AND OTHER LOCAL PARTNERS, SUCH AS THE COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG FOUNDATION TO PROVIDE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF VACCINES TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS THE WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES UNDERSTOOD THE NEED FOR JOY AND HOPE IN THESE TRYING TIMES AND COLLABORATED WITH THE BUSINESS COUNCIL, THE COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG FOUNDATION, FIRST RESPONDERS AND WILLIAM AND MARY, TO CREATE AN EVENT TO REPLACE THE CHRISTMAS PARADE WITH THE COMMUNITY DRIVE BY HOLIDAY EVENT.
AND WHEREAS THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES WORKED DILIGENTLY THROUGH THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICES AND EDS TO COLLABORATE WITH THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG BUSINESS COUNCIL TO QUICKLY SHARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND RELEVANT INFORMATION TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITY HAVE EARNED THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION OF THE BUSINESS COUNCIL, THEIR COLLEAGUES, PEERS, AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE FOR THE HAND IN THE HANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC CRISIS.
AND NOW THEREFORE I, JULIE SUMS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG BUSINESS COUNCIL FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG REGION, DO HEREBY EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO THE GREATER WILLIAMSBURG COMMUNITIES AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK DETAILED HERE AND THE COUNTLESS OTHER ACTIVITIES DONE, WHICH WERE TOO MANY TO RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUALLY ON THE OCCASION OF THE CULMINATION OF THEIR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE SUSTAINED AND CONTINUING SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY DURING THE WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC.
THANK YOU ALL SO I WANTED TO THANK THE BUSINESS COUNCIL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND ALL THE AID AND THINGS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN OUT TO THE BUSINESSES AND THE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS DURING THIS TIME.
UH, YOU'VE DONE A EXCELLENT JOB AND, UH, THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING
[B Employee Service Recognitions. Receive presentation from Neil Morgan, County Administrator.]
TO MOVE INTO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS AND I'M GOING TO CALL THEM MR. MORGAN, FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION.SO WE'VE GOT A FEW TONIGHT TO SHARE WITH YOU.
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THAT GUY? UM, MARK BELLAMY, OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS NOW CELEBRATING 20 YEARS WITH THE COUNTY, UH, STARTED AS THE FLEET MANAGER IN MARCH OF 2001.SO CONGRATULATIONS MARK ON 20 YEARS
SO NOW, UH, LET'S PIVOT TO SOME FOLKS WITH 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, BRETT CALLAN.
UH, HE IS NOW THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE MANAGER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
BRETT STARTED 25 YEARS AGO AS AN ELECTRICIAN TRADESMAN IN FEBRUARY OF 1996, VALUED MEMBER OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.
MATTHEW GREEN ALSO IN PUBLIC WORKS ALSO, UH, AT 25 YEARS.
HE'S THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR AND IS MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW THAT'S AN ACTIVITY THAT WE REALLY VALUE HERE IN THE COUNTY, UH, TRYING TO, UH, KEEP THE APPEARANCE OF THE COUNTY JUST TO STEP AHEAD.
UH, AND MATT CAME TO WORK IN MAY OF 1996 AS AN ENTRY LEVEL GROUNDSKEEPER.
WE'VE ALSO GOT, UH, 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO RECOGNIZE KEVIN LECLAIR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, KEVIN STARTED AS A LABORER AND OF COURSE NOW IS ALSO A SUPERVISOR AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, UH, STARTED IN JUNE OF 1991.
ANTHONY, TONY PREDA, SISTANT FIRE CHIEF DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.
UH, 30 YEARS OF SERVICE IN JANUARY OF 91 AS A FIREFIGHTER, RONNIE LEWIS, HE'S A SENIOR FIREFIGHTER ALSO AT 30 YEARS IN DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.
HE STARTED ALSO IN JANUARY 91 ABOUT THE TIME, I GUESS, THOSE NEW STATIONS WERE IN ME, ROBERT MOORE, UH, LIEUTENANT FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY, INTERESTINGLY, THE SAME START DATE.
AND WE'VE EVEN GOT SOMEBODY WHO MADE IT TO 35 YEARS.
RANDY YOCUM THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
ABOUT THE SAME TIME I STARTED MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CAREER.
JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND PAUSE AND RECOGNIZE ALL THOSE TOP PEOPLE FOR ALL THE YEARS OF SERVICE THEY'D GIVEN TO THE COUNTY AND PERHAPS A ROUND OF APPLAUSE
[CITIZENS' COMMENT PERIOD]
I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD, AND I HAVE A MR.I LIVE ON, UH, 43 83 EAGLE HARBOR LANE, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT HERE TONIGHT THAT I WILL BE RUNNING FOR US CONGRESS IN THE SECOND DISTRICT, UH, NEXT YEAR AGAINST ELAINE LURIA AND AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, I FEEL IT'S MY DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO FIRST AND FOREMOST, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SYSTEMIC RACISM, SOCIAL INJUSTICES, AND I PLAN ON TAKING THAT ISSUE HEAD ON WHEN I GET TO DC, I'VE GOT SOME GREAT SUPPORT WITH ME.
UH, MY YEARS OF SERVICES IN MINISTRY HAS HELPED ME TO WORK TOGETHER ALONGSIDE OF, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE OF VARIOUS CULTURES AND ETHNICITIES.
AND I'VE LEARNED HOW TO GET ALONG.
AND I THINK THAT SAME HARMONY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE UNITED STATES.
THE BIBLE SAYS A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND.
AND I BELIEVE IN AMERICA DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF WILL NOT STAND EITHER.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN DC IS WILLING TO STAND FOR THEIR CORE VALUES.
THE CORE VALUES SUCH AS PRO-LIFE, UH, THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE AND THAT, UH, WE CAN'T FIGHT RACISM WITH HATRED AND STAND FOR THOSE THINGS, BUT YET REACH ACROSS THE AISLE AND EMBRACED BIPARTISANSHIP.
AND THAT'S WHAT I PLAN TO DO WHEN I'M, UH, WHEN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IN JUNE.
AND THEN ALSO WHEN I WIN THE SEAT IN, UH, NOVEMBER OF 2022, I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO INVITE EVERYBODY HERE ON JULY 30TH.
UH, NEXT FRIDAY AT THE YORKTOWN BATTLEFIELD, I'LL HAVE MY OFFICIAL KICKOFF FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE KICKING OFF ON THE VERY GROUNDS THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON DEFEATED, UH, CORN WALLACE ON THE VERY LAST AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR 230 YEARS AGO.
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SIGNIFICANT WHEN WE HAVE TO TAKE ON AND FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOMS THAT WE'RE LOSING TODAY.THIS TIME, THE NEXT, UH, CITIZEN WHO SIGNED UP IS MR. HALL, MR. HALL, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, TAKE YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS SAMUEL CHASE HALL, 1 0 9 BROKEN BRIDGE ROAD, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M HAILING REQUEST THE SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL TO GET HELP WITH A DRAINAGE ISSUE IN THERE.
UM, I MEAN RESUME IN 2006, IN 2010, THEY STARTED DIGGING MOATS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROJECT WAS NEVER FINISHED.
I'VE TRIED TO REASON WITH BEAT ART OVER THE ISSUES.
UM, OTHER MODES OR THE LACK OF MOATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY DUG SIX FOOT WIDE BEFORE FOOT DEEP MOAT IN MY FRONT YARD.
WHEN THEY FIRST DUG THAT MOAT, THEY LEFT THE GAS LINE IN A WATERLINE EXPOSED AND TOLD ME THAT WAS MY PROBLEM.
ALSO, THEY LEFT ME NO BAGGAGE.
AND YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT PIECE OF PIPE I HAD TO PAY FOR MY CARS.
AS YOU SEE IN THE SCREEN HERE, THIS PROJECT WAS OPPOSED TO BEING RUNNING FROM EDGE BROKEN BRIDGE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF BROOKLYN BRIDGE TO MEET FORT USABLE.
THERE'S A LACK OF COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT.
MR. AGEE, MR. ZIGGY, MYSELF FOR TWO YARDS GOT THE WORST OF IT.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH ON DRAGON DISTRICT, WHICH HAS A FOUR FOOT DEEP CRUNCH IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
UM, THAT PIECE OF PIPE THEY DUG IN FRONT OF MY HEALTH.
I HAD TO PAY FOR MY I'M NOT READING MY SLIDES.
IN 2010, THEY LEFT, THEY GOT A SIX FOOT, SIX FOOT DEEP, SIX FOOT WIDE BY FOUR FOOT DEEP MOAT ON I FIVE AND FOUGHT WITH THE ALL OVER THIS AND KNOWS ALL.
I HAVE FILED TWO PETITIONS ON BEAT VR WEBSITE TO GET THE PROJECT MOVING.
UM, I DON'T THINK
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING.
IT, WE CAN TAKE IT, TAKE IT OFF.
I WAS NEVER ASKED IN A WAR IN THE MOAT.
DOUG I'D CALL YOU STOP BEING UP AND DIGGING THESE MOATS IN MY FRONT YARDS BACK 2010, I AM FEED ART GUYS.
CAN WE PASTE THE FACE AND TELL ME YOU CAN'T STOP ME.
LUCKILY THAT DAY IT SHERIFF THING.
I ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE, UM, I HAVE FOUGHT WITH BNI OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS OVER TRYING TO GET MY FRONT YARD FIXED.
NOW I HAVE DEVELOPED ARTHRITIS AND DIABETIC NEUROPATHY, MY WAKES, AND IT HURTS TO WALK WITH STAYING OR CRAWL DOWN INTO THAT MOAT.
UM, SO IS MR. ZIGGY, HE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM.
HE HE'S HAVING TO PAY SOMEONE IT TO TAKE CARE OF HIS MOAT.
MR. AGEE, WHO IS NOW ASKED TO SADLY HAD THE SAME ISSUE, UM, IT'S MAINTAIN THESE BOATS OR IS A NIGHTMARE.
I STILL PAY PROPER CHECKS AND I THINK I SHOULD GET THE SUPPORT IN THIS COUNTY TO HELP ME.
UM, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU ALL CAN HELP ME? I MEAN, I'VE BOUGHT VIDOT, I'VE GONE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND FILLED OUT THEIR SITE AND THEY GET SWELL.
WHAT YOU PUT A PIPE IN FRONT OF MY HEALTH OR MR. VICKY OR AGEE, I'LL PUT YOUR ARMS IN THE WORST OF THE TWO YARDS ON BROKEN BRIDGE.
PLUS THEY NEVER FINISHED THE PROJECT.
THERE IS NO GREENWICH ON OF THESE DITCHES.
YOU WALKED DOWN JUST PAST TWO HOUSES PAST MR. AIG.
HE LIVES AT 2 0 1 AND THERE IS NO DRAINAGE.
IT'S ALL MUDDY AND FLEA INFESTED.
UM, THE PROJECT WAS NEVER FINISHED.
HOW CAN YOU HELP ME MR. HALL? THIS IS A PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU COULD ADDRESS US.
IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO FINISH, I'M DONE.
UH, MR. MORGAN, IF YOU COULD, UH, INSTRUCT PUBLIC WORKS ON.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE
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AND THAT I HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AGAIN AND ALSO, UH, IF WE COULD, UH, SPEAK TO THE V DOT ADMINISTRATOR TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG.THANK YOU, MR. HALL FOR, AND I WILL PUT THE PICTURES IN THE RECORD THAT YOU GAVE US.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? SEEING NONE.
I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO REPORTS, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WELL, LET'S GO WITH THE COUNTY
[COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ATTORNEY FIRST.I ACTUALLY HAVE NO REPORT FOR THIS EVENING.
IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY COUNTY
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS AND REQUESTS]
ADMINISTRATOR.UH, HOPE EVERYONE'S HAVING A GOOD SUMMER.
[MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD]
MATTERS PRESENTED BY THE BOARD AND I'LL START OFF WITH MS. KNOLL.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE WOMEN WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE AND LISTEN TO US.
I RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO PASS A RESOLUTION, NOTING THAT THERE ARE ONLY 27% OF THE WOMEN IN YOUR COUNTY THAT ARE ON MY MICROPHONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POPULATION OF THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, 51% OF THE POPULATION OF WOMEN THAT GOES FOR YOUR COUNTY AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN WHO SERVE ON LOCAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT'S 27%.
THAT'S QUITE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR POPULATION NUMBERS AND OUR ACTUAL SERVICE NUMBERS.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD TRIES TO APPOINT WOMEN TO THE BOARDS.
IF THEY GET THE APPLICATIONS, OR IF THEY HAVE WOMEN WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE, IF WE DO NOT GET APPLICATIONS FROM YOU, ALL YOU WOMEN, WE CAN APPOINT YOU.
AND WE DO NEED WOMEN TO VOLUNTEER, TO SERVE ON THE LOCAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE IN YOUR COUNTY, BECAUSE YOU BRING, YOU BRING SO MUCH TO IT.
YOU RAISE A FAMILY, YOU, YOU TAKE CARE OF THE BUDGET.
YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN AND WE COULD USE YOUR EXPERTISE ON THE BOARDS, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT IF WE DON'T HEAR FROM YOU.
SO I'M PUTTING A PLEA OUT THERE TO THE WOMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, THEY TWICE.
I KNOW YOU VOLUNTEER FOR YOUR CHURCHES.
I KNOW YOU VOLUNTEER FOR YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.
I KNOW YOU VOLUNTEER AT SCHOOLS.
YOU ASK A BUSY WOMAN TO VOLUNTEER AND SHE WILL VOLUNTEER.
SO I'M ASKING YOU WOMEN OUT THERE, PLEASE GO TO THE WEBSITE AND DOWNLOAD THE APPLICATIONS TO SERVE ON THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THE COUNTY HAS BECAUSE I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MORE WOMEN.
THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY LIST TONIGHT.
UH, LAST WEEK I HAD SOME ORAL SURGERY, SO, UH, UH, I MAY NOT BE AS ARTICULATE AS I'D LIKE TO BE, BUT THE LAST TIME WE MET, I ALSO TALKED ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT'S THAT'S, UH, IN MY MIND, EVERY SCARY SUBJECT, A VERY SERIOUS SUBJECT, AND IT'S CALLED CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
SOME OF MY THOUGHTS WITH THE BOARD, THE ADMINISTRATOR, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR WORK COUNTY, YOU KNOW, YORKTOWN THE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE, UH, OUR FREEDOM WAS ONE WHEN, UH, CORNWALLIS WAS DEFEATED BY WASHINGTON.
BUT I WANT TO READ SIR, EXCERPT OF AN ARTICLE.
IT CAME OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IN THE WASHINGTON POST, UH, TIMES SORT OF A RIGHT LEANING NEWSPAPER.
IT'S WRITTEN BY A BLACK CONGRESSMAN FROM FLORIDA.
WHO'S MARRIED TO A WHITE WOMAN.
SO THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF BIRACIAL CHILDREN, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN K AND 12.
THE TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE IS CRT CRITICAL RACE THEORY.
THAT IS THEIR FATHER IS OPPRESSED AND THEIR MOTHER IS THE OPPRESSOR.
IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY, IT PITS WHITES AGAINST BLACK, BLACK, AGAINST WHITES, BUT PRIMARILY WHITES IN THAT CONCEPT ARE RACIST FROM THE DAY THEY WERE BORN.
CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS DIVISIVE
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AT ITS CORE.THAT MOVEMENT TO INDOCTRINATE OUR CHILDREN IS THAT DEFINITIVE OR THE DEFINITION OF RE REVERSE RACISM AND SPITS IN THE FACE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT LED BY AMERICAN HEROES, SUCH AS DR.
JUST THOSE PROPOSALS USING THIS WICKED CURRICULUM LIKE TO LIVE IN AMERICA, WHERE EVERY AMERICAN IS JUDGED BASED ON THEIR COLOR, NOT BASED ON THEIR COLOR OF THE SKIN, BUT THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER, WHICH IF I REMEMBER MY HISTORY CORRECTLY IS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF THE TEACHINGS OF DR.
KING AND DECADES OF CIVIL RIGHT PROGRESS AND COMMITMENT TO CREATE A MORE PERFECT UNION.
DO THEY RADICAL? LET THIS OR UP ENDING THIS LONGSTANDING AMERICAN VALUE TO PUSH THE PHONE NUMBER AND DIVISIVE AGENDA.
CRT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ACCURATELY PRESENTING HISTORY.
INSTEAD THIS PARTISAN IDEOLOGY HAS ONE GOAL IN MIND TO DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN, BY INDOCTRINATING OUR YOUTH AND DAMAGING AMERICA'S ACHILLES HEEL RACE RELATIONS.
PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN FAMOUSLY SAID THAT A MERCK YOU'D NEVER FALL FROM THE OUTSIDE STATING IF DESTRUCTION BE OUR LOT, WE MUST OUR SOULS BE ITS AUTHOR AND FINISHER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEVASTATING REALITY IS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE MEDIA AND THE UN-AMERICAN PEOPLE SUCH AS GEORGE SOROS ARE WRITING THE CLOSING CHAPTER OF AMERICANS TESTIMONY.
SKIPPING TO THE END, BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THE REST OF IT IS, WHETHER IT'S MY HOME CITY OF NAPLES, FLORIDA, SUBURBAN VIRGINIA, MIDDLE AMERICA, OR THE WEST COAST, THE LEFT DESIGNER, RELENTLESS CRUSADE TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN.
AMERICA IS A RACIST COUNTRY AS A BLACK MAN IN AMERICA.
OUR HISTORY OF SLAVERY, REQ RECONSTRUCTION, JIM CROW, AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IS DEEPLY PERSONAL.
MY WIFE AND I TEACH OUR CHILDREN ABOUT THE HISTORY.
THEIR SCHOOLS TEACH THEM OF THE HISTORY, AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO TEACH ALL CHILDREN OF OUR HISTORY, BUT WE CANNOT USE OUR TROUBLED HISTORY AS A RUBBER STAMP TO HOLD AMERICA HOSTAGE FROM HER PAST SINS.
AND AS A WEDGE BETWEEN WHITE AND BLACK AMERICANS, AMERICA, ACCORDING TO RE RE REPRESENTATIVE BYRON DONALDS IS NOT A RACIST NATION.
THE MOTHER OF MY CHILDREN IS NOT A PRODUCT OF WHITE SUPREMACY, AND I AM NOT IN THE PRESS BLACK MEN IN AMERICA.
I MENTIONED PRE-CAL RACE THEORY.
LAST TIME WE MET THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, UH, AS A PRECURSOR TO WHAT I WOULD, I TRY TO DO A LOT OF READING, WHETHER IT'S NEWS MEDIA WITH ONLINE NEWS, IT IS A CANCER THAT IF YOU JUST TAKE THE TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND READ, YOU'LL KNOW IT'S MOVING ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FROM OUR UNIVERSITIES DOWN TO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS K THROUGH 12, AND THE WHOLE POINT, IT'S THE CONCEPTS THAT STEMS FROM MARKS.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT HISTORY, THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION, OKAY, IT WAS THE OPPRESSED, YOU OVERTHREW THE OPPRESSORS AND THAT REVOLUTION, UH, THE OPPRESSORS BEING THE FOLKS WHO CONTROL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, THE FACTORIES.
AND OF COURSE THE PRESS WERE THOSE WHO WORKED IN THOSE FACTORIES.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT KIND OF FLIPPED MARKS ON ITS ON ITS HEAD, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY REPLACED THE OPPRESSED AND OPPRESSORS WITH THE WHITE AND THE BLACK SEGMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY.
SO I'M SIMPLY SAYING, AND I'VE TALKED TO BOTH OUR CHAIR AND OUR ADMINISTRATOR.
I'VE ASKED THEM TO TALK TO THEIR COUNTERPARTS, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE CHAIRMAN TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WHERE THE, THE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THIS COUNTY, BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS A SPECIFIC MISSION IN THAT, MAKING SURE OUR KIDS RECEIVED THE EDUCATION THAT WE EXPECTED HIM TO.
AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US AT THE DYE HERE EXPECT THAT EDUCATION TO INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT CAN DO CRITICAL RACE THEORY, CRITICAL RACE THEORY BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL CRITICAL.
SO IF, IF YOU SPEND ANY TIME OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS WATCHING ANY TYPE OF SPORTS BROADCAST, ONE OF THE COMMON MESSAGE YOU MAY HEAR IS THE IMPACT THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS HAD ON YOUTH SPORTS ACROSS THE NATION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF PERSONAL AND CLOSE TO ME BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT IMPACT WITH MY SON, TRYING OUT FOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
AND I SEEN HIS PEERS BOTH HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR SPORTS OF CHOICE AND AT THE YOUTH LEVEL AS WELL.
THE GOOD NEWS IS DAY BY DAY, WEEK BY WEEK.
WE'RE GETTING BACK TO MORE AND MORE LEVEL OF NORMALCY AS FAR AS YOUTH SPORTS GOES.
AND RIGHT NOW ALL ACROSS THE HAMPTON ROADS AREA, YOUTH FOOTBALL TO START
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AND HAS AS OF THIS WEEK AND EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE PROBABLY HAS OPEN ENDS.SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A YOUTH THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORT, THAT LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT ON THE FIELD WITH, WITH THEIR PEERS AND THEIR FRIENDS, THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO JUMP IN, FIND A LEAGUE OF YOUR CHOICE, FIND A LEAGUE IN YOUR AREA, GET SIGNED UP AND START PARTICIPATING AND GET BACK TO NORMAL YOUTH ACTIVITIES.
UM, WITH SPORTS, UM, PERSONALLY I WORKED WITH THE GRASS AND TAB TABBY FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE ANYBODY THAT, THAT COME JOIN US, BUT AGAIN, ALL ACROSS HAMPTON ROADS, THERE ARE PLENTY OPPORTUNITIES.
IF YOU HAVE YOUTH LOOKING FOR LOOKING FOR SOME OPPORTUNITIES, THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE TO JUMP IN RIGHT NOW, AS THINGS ARE GETTING STARTED.
THANK YOU, MR. RON, DO YOU HAVE A PHONE NUMBER OR WEBSITE YOU WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST, JUST LOOK UP, LOOK US UP ON THE WEB OR
UM, WANTING TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF MY FAVORITE SUBJECTS, THAT'S TRAFFIC AND, UH, I'D HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I REALLY JUST, HAVEN'T HAD TO GO UP TO DC, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH.
AND, UM, AND THAT SURELY HAVEN'T HAD TO DRIVE OVER TO TOWARDS VIRGINIA BEACH FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE OF THE COVID.
THEN WE'VE BEEN HOLDING ALL OUR MEETINGS VIRTUALLY.
SO ANYWAY, I HAD, I HAD A REQUIREMENT TO GO TO, UH, THE DC AREA OR ACTUALLY IT'S IN CHANTILLY, UM, AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA PART, UM, TO HELP MY SON, UH, MOVE.
UH, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I THANK GOD I DON'T LIVE UP THERE, RIGHT? THEY TRAFFIC, UH, 66, UM, IS A ROAD THAT RUNS EAST AND WEST OUT OF ALL 4 95.
AND THAT WHOLE STRETCH FROM 4 95 TO DALLAS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE UP THERE IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE YET.
THEY CAN'T WIDEN IT ANYMORE BECAUSE UNLESS THEY COME IN AND HE CAN START CONDEMNING BUSINESSES AND HOMES AND RESIDENTS, WHICH THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO DO UP THERE IF THEY NEED TO.
UH, BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
UM, SURPRISINGLY THOUGH, UM, DESPITE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, THE TRAFFIC MOVED, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER WHITE KNUCKLE THAT MOST OF THE TIME CAUSE I WAS DRIVING.
BUT, UM, THE REAL EXPERIENCE WAS WHEN I WENT BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GET USED TO IT, BUT WHEN WE DECIDE WE'RE HEADING HOME AND I THINK THIS, THIS, UM, SUNDAY, I BELIEVE IT WAS SUNDAY ANYWAY, HEADING HOME OF OUR TRIP THAT NORMALLY IN MY EXPERIENCE WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO HOURS AND CHANGE TOOK FOUR HOURS, UM, JAMMED UP FROM ALL THE WAY FROM THE, UH, THE, WHAT I CALL THE SPAGHETTI BOWL UP.
THERE WERE 4 95, 3 95 AND 95 MEAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO QUANTICO.
NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT LIVED BY 20 THERE 20 YEARS AGO, THAT QUANTICO IS CONSIDERED OUT IN THE STICKS AND NOW IT'S CONSIDERED JUST A SUBURB OF THAT AREA.
AND THEN IT JAMS UP AGAIN WHEN YOU GET CLOSE TO RICHMOND AND THEN WHEN YOU GET ON 64 HEADING THIS WAY, WOW.
EVERYBODY WAS FEELING PRETTY GOOD, EVEN THOUGH IT HAD A FEW SPOTS.
AND, UH, I'LL TELL YOU THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF, OF VIRGINIA, UH, PRETTY CRITICAL FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE FOR US TO GET AROUND AND MOVE AROUND.
NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WHEN I HAD TO GO OVER TO THE HAMPTON ROADS, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT'S HELD IN THE REGIONAL CENTER UP THERE AND CHEST, UH, CHEST PEAK IS THAT, UM, THE FIRST THING I NOTICED IS THAT I WENT INTO THE TUNNEL AND IT WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, IT WAS THE PIG TRAIL.
I MEAN, IT WAS, I THOUGHT MY CAR WAS GONNA, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT WAS JUST REALLY BAD AND I'M GOING, WHO'S MAINTAINING THE TUNNEL, YOU KNOW, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION WAS HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING PLACE THERE.
NOW THE ROAD, THE TRESTLES ARE THERE.
AND, UH, PRETTY SOON THAT WILL, WILL, WE'LL BE BRINGING IN THE BORING MACHINE, WHICH IS BEING BUILT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE THING THAT TUNNELS UNDER THE, UH, UNDER THE HAMPTON ROADS AND YOU'LL, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE HOW THEY'RE LAYING IT OUT NOW.
SO IF, YEAH, IF YOU'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO AND WANT TO JUST EXPERIENCE THIS, GO DRIVE ACROSS THOSE STRETCH, UH, WHERE THE TUNNEL IS GOING TO BE PRETTY AMAZING HOW MUCH THERE'S MOVING IS MOVING QUICK.
AND SO IN 2025, AS IT SHOULD BE DONE.
SO I GOT THERE AND I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT.
I WAS PRETTY EXCITED TO SEE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE DIRECTOR, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAYS, TOM, YOU NEED TO GO OVER TO THE HIGH RISE BRIDGE.
NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T LIVE ON THAT SIDE, THE HIGH RISE BRIDGE IS, IS, HAS THE SAME EFFECT AS THE LACK OF A TUNNEL WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A BRIDGE.
IT GETS JAMMED UP ON THAT SIDE.
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I SWEAR, IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING FROM OUTER SPACE.I MEAN, THEY WERE JUST, IT WAS GOING GREAT GUNS.
I MEAN, CONSTRUCTION IS GOING IS HUGE, HUGE BRIDGE.
IT'S JUST KIND OF SUSPENDED IN THE AIR ON PARTS THEY'RE DOING.
SO YES, THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS THAT FOR THE CITIZENS THAT ARE SITTING HERE, THEY'VE HOPEFULLY YOU LIVE IN THE HAMPTON ROADS AREA YOU'RE PAYING FOR THIS STUFF.
IT'S THE, WE, UH, THE ONLY REASON THIS IS TAKING PLACE IS BECAUSE THE STATE GAVE US PERMISSION TO, UH, LEVY ATTACKS AND TO MANAGE IT THE WAY WE WANTED TO MANAGE IT AND FIX THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO FIX.
AND THE TUNNEL AND CHA AND THE HIGH-RISE BRIDGE ARE JUST TWO OF THE MANY PROJECTS, UM, THAT YOU SEE.
AND FOR THOSE THAT LIVE ON THIS SIDE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT 64 AND SEE HOW MUCH EASIER IT IS NOW TO GET UP TO WILLIAMSBURG.
UM, AND IF YOU LIVE RIGHT IN YOUR COUNTY, IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT 17, I, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I WOULDN'T TURN TO GO NORTH ON 17, UH, BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND NOW YOU CAN GET UP AND DOWN 17, MUCH EASIER.
OF COURSE IT WAS VERY PAINFUL FOR THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT, ALONG THAT WAY.
WE GOT A LOT OF, LOT OF GOOD CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BIG EFFECT ON OUR AREA.
AND FINALLY, THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART IS THE CONCERN OVER THE COVID.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THE SHOT.
UM, AND I'M HEARING A LOT OF REASONS OR A LOT OF, UH, REMORSE FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE HOSPITAL THAT DIDN'T GET IT, UH, SOMEONE VENTILATORS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY SCARES ME, CAUSE I HAVE A SIX YEAR OLD AND A NINE YEAR OLD LIVING WITH ME, THE GRANDCHILDREN IS THAT THERE CAN'T BE VACCINATED.
AND, UM, AND I WOULD ASK FROM PERSONALLY THAT IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED, PLEASE DO SO BECAUSE WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS GOING TO HELP SAVE CHILDREN THAT CANNOT BE VACCINATED AND THAT VACCINATION WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR THE CHILDREN, PROBABLY I'M HEARING NOW UNTIL AROUND DECEMBER OR MAYBE JANUARY.
UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO YEAR OLDS UP TO ABOUT WHAT 11, I THINK, OR 12 ARE NOT ABLE TO GET VACCINATED.
AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE, I KNOW OUR SCHOOL BOARDS WERE REALLY HARD TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
AND I HEARD TODAY THAT THERE THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT TO ALL THE CHILDREN WILL BE WEARING MASKS, INCLUDING THE STAFF AND THE TEACHERS WHEN THEY GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.
THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHERD, LASTLY, UH, THIS YEAR HAS KIND OF BEEN HARD FOR ELECTIONS AND, UH, YOU LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD SOME PROBLEMS ACCEPTING THE RESULTS OF SOME ELECTIONS.
AND, UH, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR.
I LAST TIME I TOLD YOU THAT YOUR COUNTY WAS RANKED AS THE THIRD BEST COUNTY IN VIRGINIA TO LIVE IN.
WELL, I CALLED THE GOOD FOLKS AT NICHE MAGAZINE AND I SAID, HEY, I'M HAVING A REAL HARD TIME BELIEVING THESE RESULTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN AUDIT.
I HAVE SOME VERY CAPABLE, UH, STAFF AND SOME SUPERVISORS.
UH, MR. ZAREMBA IS, IS ON THE SHORT LIST.
AND MR. SHEPHERD IS VERY COMPETENT AS LONG WITH MISS KNOLL IN THIS ROOM.
AND WE HAVE A CLASS OF A VERY CRACK LEGAL TEAM, UH, LED BY MR. BARNETT AND, UH, HIS YOUNG ASSOCIATES, UH, MR. HILL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, BY ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, OF THE YEAR, MR. MORGAN.
AND I SAID, I'M JUST NOT BELIEVING THESE RESULTS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE AUDITED.
AND THEY SAID, WELL, MR. GREEN, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT YOUR COUNTY IS NOW THE SECOND BEST COUNTY IN VIRGINIA.
NOW YOU MIGHT ASK, WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE COUNTY, AND THAT IS LOUDEN COUNTY.
AND, UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT YOUR COUNTY DOES NOT, HAS NO COMPARISON TO LOUDON COUNTY STUFF.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT LOUDEN COUNTY WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, NICHE MAGAZINE.
I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THE RESULTS AND, UH, CONDUCTING THE AUDIT.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY REMARKS AND WE HAVE SOME TIME.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
GET INTO THIS CONSENT AGENDA.IF EVERYBODY COULD LOOK AT THEIR CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THE FIRST THING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS KDC SOLAR SPECIAL USE PERMIT EXTENSION.
AND I SEE MR. TRAN, UH, IS HERE.
UH, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES ITEM SEVEN ITEM MADE IS, UH, THE RIVERWALK PARKING REPAIRS, UH, THE TERRACE REPAIRS.
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EIGHT IS THE DESIGN AND BUILD CONTRACT FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN.NUMBER 10 IS THE SIGNAL AT BULLA FONTS AND MORE TOWN ROAD, UH, PROJECT THAT MR. ZAREMBA HAS BEEN TOUTING FOR, UH, YEARS, AS I RECALL, UH, NUMBER 11 IS CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DEBT REIMBURSEMENT.
NUMBER 12 IS CAPITAL PROJECTS, DEBT REIMBURSEMENT SCHOOL FOR THE SCHOOLS.
AND NUMBER 13 IS THE AMENDMENT OF RULES OF PROCEDURE ONE THROUGH NINE, THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION IN BOARD MEETINGS.
AND NUMBER 14 IS COMMANDING RETIRING EMPLOYEES.
DOES ANY ONE WISHED YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR HAVE ANY OF THESE ITEMS REMOVED? SURE.
OR NUMBER NINE, BE REMOVED DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN.
AND IF SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF GET UP HERE, JUST GIVE US A CONCEPT ABOUT WHAT THAT IDEA IS.
THE TIMELINE IN TERMS OF, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE A RIBBON CUTTING AT SOME POINT IN TIME, ANYBODY CAPABLE OF DOING THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UH, JOE SIZZLER, CHIEF KACZYNSKI, AND ME, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU? PICK YOUR CHOICE.
WELL, UH, JOE, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST GRIP ON THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECT.
MR.
MR. ZIMMERMAN OVER, WE'RE DOING THIS ONE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
UH, THIS IS NOT A DESIGN BID BUILD, AS WE NORMALLY WOULD DO.
SO THE FIRM WE'RE HIRING WILL TAKE CARE OF THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION PART, AS YOU KNOW, THE GROUP HOME THAT WAS THERE THAT CLOSED IS, UM, ACCORDING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED AT IT AND YOU KNOW, IT HAS A BIG KITCHEN.
IT HAS THE DORM ROOMS, WHICH BECOME BUNK ROOMS EVERYTHING'S THERE.
SO ALL WE'RE BUILDING IS THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT BASE.
THE FIRM BELIEVES THAT IT CAN DO IT IN 500 DAYS.
THAT'S THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO AS SOON AS WE WERE ABLE TO TURN THEM LOOSE, THAT THAT'S THE PLAN.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THE LOCATION IS? UH, YES, SIR.
IT'S HELPED ME OUT WITH THE PROPER NAME.
SO IF, UH, IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'LL INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHERE THE, UM, THE, UM, THE BEER COMPANY, UH, L WORKS IS JUST NORTH OF THERE ON MORE TOWN ROAD.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE LANE OFF OF THAT TO THE RIGHT.
AND IT'S RIGHT BACK THERE ON LAND.
THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG THAT WE LEASE FROM THEM WHEN WE GOT STARTED WITH THIS LAST DECEMBER.
MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'LL INDUSTRIAL PARK IS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS MR. ROMAN? NOPE.
ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE ITEMS FROM BOOK? UM, MR. MORGAN, I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE REPAIRS TO THE PARKING GARAGE, UH, DOWN THERE, UH, ON RIVERWALK.
UH, ARE WE IN LIGHT OF, UH, COLLAPSES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY? ARE WE HAVING AN ENGINEER TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF, UH, IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND, IF SALTWATER IS INTRUDED INTO THE CONCRETE OR THE REBAR, UH, YOU WE'LL ACTUALLY, UH, WE INSPECT IT WITH SOME FREQUENCY.
THIS IS A POST-TENSION CONSTRUCTION, UH, TYPE OF PROJECT, AND IT IS IN A MARINE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT IS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, SEAL COATING THINGS, UH, TO PREVENT THAT KIND OF SITUATION.
AND, UH, AGAIN, JUST TO BRAG ON MR. CISLER, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN OUTSTANDING PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, UH, ON THE COUNTY STAFF THAT LOOKS AT THESE THINGS IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, OTHER, SO THE ANSWER IS, UM, WE CHECK IT CONSTANTLY AND THIS IS A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROJECT TO AVOID THAT TYPE OF PROBLEM.
UH, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MADAM CLERK PROMOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BY MISS MOLD TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLE AS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA.
WE ARE GOING TO STAND IN RECESS UNTIL OUR SEVEN.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CLASS, AND I JUST REMINDED THAT A, WE HAD A SMALL TEAM GO DOWN AND HELP WITH THE RESCUE OPERATIONS.
I'M CURIOUS IF WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT, HAVE THEY RETURNED YET? YES, SIR.
UH, THE CHIEF MIGHT WANT TO COMMENT.
WE HAD A THREE MEMBERS OF THE, YOUR COUNTY FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY DOWN THERE.
THEY CAME BACK LAST WEEK, CHIEF.
YOU WANT TO STEP FORWARD AND BRIEF THE BOARD.
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OKAY.CERTAINLY WE ARE PROUD OF THE FOLKS THAT, THAT DEPLOYED TO, UH, SURFSIDE FLORIDA WITH, UH, WITH THE VIRGINIA TASKFORCE TOO, WHICH IS A FEMA OR URBAN SUCH SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM.
IN THE CASE, IT WAS 80 MEMBER TEAM THAT DEPLOYED OUT OF VIRGINIA BEACH.
IT'S A REGIONAL TEAM, ACTUALLY, IT'S A FEDERAL TEAM THAT OPERATES OUT OF THE REGION.
THREE MEMBERS, ROBERT CUDDLY, REZI RIVERA, AND JUSTIN MEDU DEPLOYED AS MEMBERS OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, UH, APPROPRIATE, UH, RECOGNITION, UH, MATERIAL FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT THEY DID DEPLOY, UH, DID VERY EXTENSIVE WORK, UH, TOUGH WORK AND REMOVING, UH, UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF THE CLAPS.
UH, BUT THE CREW MADE IT BACK SAFELY TO A HERO'S WELCOME LAST WEEK.
AND THEY WERE GONE ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 13 DAYS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEM PARTICIPATING IN, I GUESS, A HORRIFIC INCIDENT.
WE'RE GOING TO STAND IN RECESS UNTIL SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND WELCOME BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THREE HOURS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
[1 Application No. UP-967-21, Magruder/Tabb Animal Hospital. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R21-93 to authorize a veterinary hospital without outside runs at 3525 Hampton Highway.]
TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL ON EARL ANDERSON, MR. ANDERSON, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD FOR THE MAGRUDER TAP ANIMAL HOSPITAL APPLICATION, UPP 9 6 7 DASH 21.MR. ANDERSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, THIS IS THE APPLICATION REQUESTING A VETERINARY HOSPITAL WITHOUT OUTSIDE RUNS AT 35 25 HAMPTON HIGHWAY, OR THIS IS THE PROPERTY, UH, SHOWN HERE WITH THE RED BOUNDARY AROUND IT.
YOU'LL SEE IT'S A RECTANGLE OF, OF PINK, WHICH IS OUR LIMITED BUSINESS ZONING CLASSIFICATION LIMITED BUSINESS IS FOR, UH, IS A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT IS USUALLY ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THE USES ARE USUALLY RESTRICTED, UM, IN WAYS THAT, UH, KEEP THE USES TO BABY DAYLIGHT ACTIVITIES.
SO, UH, NOTHING REALLY LATE AT NIGHT, NOTHING EARLY IN THE MORNING.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S, UH, AS THIS CASE, YOU'VE GOT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A VETERINARY HOSPITAL OR THE SURROUNDING USES, AS YOU CAN SEE, BESIDES THAT LIMITED BUSINESS IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THE YORKSHIRE DOWN SUBDIVISION TAKES UP MOST OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UH, JASON, IN THAT LIMITED BUSINESS AREA, THERE IS RIGHT HERE ALONGSIDE OF IT, A SMALL MOBILE HOME PARK.
UH, THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME UP HERE AT THE FRONT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THAT FROM THE ROAD, UM, NET ACROSS HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
UH, THERE IS ANOTHER MOBILE HOME PARK OVER HERE AND THEN DR.
WALLACE, WHO'S THE APPLICANT TONIGHT? THIS IS HIS EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL RIGHT HERE.
UH, HE'S JUST MOVING OVER HERE, BUILDING A LARGER FACILITY.
AND I'LL NOTE ON HERE, THESE YELLOW LINES ARE OUR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN, UM, UH, LINES.
SO THEY KIND OF SHOW WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FUTURE ONES.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME, UH, CONDITIONS IN THE, UH, APPLICATION ON THE RESOLUTION TO, UH, UM, NOT ONLY HAVE A BIKE, UH, REQUIRE, UH, EASEMENT FOR A BIKE LANE HERE ALONG HAMPTON HIGHWAY, BUT ALSO A CONNECTION BETWEEN HERE AND THIS, UH, BIKE LANE, UM, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY THAT'S IN THE BACK OF THIS.
SO, UH, TRYING TO MAKE A FUTURE CONNECTION HERE.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR EASEMENTS ALONG THOSE TWO.
UH, SO WHEN EVENTUALLY THE COUNTY GETS AROUND TO BEING ABLE TO FUND IT, THEY CAN MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS THROUGH THERE.
UH, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, SO YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE POWER LINES THERE, UH, WHERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE BIKE LANE THAT'S IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A, UH, STORM WATER POND BACK HERE IN THIS AREA.
UH, THIS IS LOOKING AT THAT MOBILE HOME PARK THAT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR IN THAT OTHER LIMITED BUSINESS AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MOBILE HOMES THERE IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL WILL GO HERE TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHY.
UM, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN ASCOT DRIVE AND IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO SHOW YOU THOSE FENCE, THAT FENCE LINE OVER THERE.
SO THAT IS THE CLOSEST HOMES TO THIS.
THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SOME OF THEM HAVE FENCES, I THINK ONLY ONE OF THEM DOES NOT.
UM, AND THEY ARE THAT THOSE ARE THEIR BACKYARDS THAT ARE FACING ASCOT DRIVE AND WOULD, UH, BE, UH, MOST IMPACTED BY THE, UH, THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL A LITTLE OVER HERE.
IS THAT THE, THE BACKYARD, RIGHT? YES.
SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO BACK REAL QUICK.
SO YES, THE BACKYARD IS TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE FENCE LINE THAT'S HERE AND THEN THE PICTURE HERE KIND OF SHOWS THOSE BACKYARD.
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THE EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL.JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT LOCATION SO THAT YOU WOULD BE AWARE OF IT.
UM, HE HAS BEEN OPERATING THERE SINCE 1989 WHEN HE GOT AN ORIGINAL, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT SIDE.
AND THIS WOULD ALLOW HIM TO MOVE OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
HE'D HAVE THE SAME HOURS THAT HE CURRENTLY HAS, UH, WHICH IS 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 8:00 AM TO 12:00 PM ON SATURDAY, NO HOURS ON SUNDAY FOR CLIENTS COMING IN.
NOW, OF COURSE HE WILL HAVE A, A SMALL KENNEL OPERATION.
SO HE WOULD HAVE STAFF THERE, UM, DURING OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE ONE OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS AT THE MOST.
UH, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY CLIENTS COMING IN AND OUT LATE AT NIGHT OR, UM, ON THE, THAT MUCH ON SUNDAY.
THIS IS THE SKETCH PLAN THAT HE PROVIDED TO US.
UH, IT'S ABOUT A 7,200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING LOCATED HERE, UH, WITH PARKING ON THE SIDE AND IN THE FRONT.
AND THEN IN THE REAR, HE IS SHOWING A SMALL OUTSIDE FENCED IN AREA, UH, WHERE HE WOULD HAVE OUTSIDE AREA FOR THE DOGS.
NOW THE USE PERMIT IS WITHOUT OUTSIDE RUNS.
AND THE WAY WE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN OUTSIDE RUNS IS THAT AN OUTSIDE RUN, WE USUALLY CONSIDER UNSUPERVISED.
SO IT WOULD BE JUST A FENCED AREA WHERE THE DOGS WOULD BE LED OUT.
NO ONE WOULD BE THERE TO MONITOR THEM OR KEEP THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY START BARKING TOO LOUDLY TO BRING THEM IN OR ANYTHING.
SO, UH, HIS INTENTION IS TO HAVE A SUPERVISED AREA THERE.
SO THAT IS CONDITIONED IN HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE STAFF OUT THERE WITH DOGS ALL THE TIME.
SO IN THE CASE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TOO MUCH YAPPING OR BARKING GOING ON, THEY CAN BRING THEM IN AND THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE UNSUPERVISED THE AREA NORTH OF CALL IT NORTH OF THAT RUN.
IS THAT GOING TO BE UNDEVELOPED? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.
IT'S A, THE CURRENT AREA UP HERE IN THE AREA WHERE YOU SEE IS WHERE THE TRAIL KIND OF COMES DOWN.
SO IT IS MOWED, UH, BUT THE AREA FURTHER BACK IS ALL WOODED.
AND THEN THIS IS ASCOT DRIVERS.
SO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, I WAS SHOWING YOU A RIDE ALONG IN HERE.
UM, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HIS EXISTING LOCATION.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING FENCED IN AREA.
YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF BLOCKED OFF, UH, THE DAY THAT WE WENT OUT THERE, THERE WERE NO DOGS OUT THERE.
UH, WE DIDN'T OBSERVE ANY, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LAYING OUT THERE.
THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE.
IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS TAKEN CARE OF VERY NICELY.
UM, SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THAT HE WOULD TRY TO DO IN THIS OTHER LOCATION.
AND HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, ACCORDING TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR IT.
UH, SO HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN WHERE HE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE HE'S GOING OUT THERE, CLEANING UP AFTER THE ANIMALS, UM, AND SO FORTH.
SO, UH, WE THINK IT WOULD BE A NICE LOCATION.
UM, GOING BACK TO THIS, UH, PLAN, UH, ANYTHING WITHIN 200 FEET, ANY ANIMAL HOSPITAL WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA IS REQUIRED TO HAVE SOUNDPROOFING.
SO HE, UH, WHEN HE CONSTRUCT THIS BUILDING, HE WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOUNDPROOFING IN THERE SO THAT IF YOU'RE STANDING OUTSIDE, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HEAR THE ANIMALS BARKING AND SO FORTH.
UH, WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT ANIMALS WILL BE BARKING.
THE HOPE IS THAT WITH STAFF BEING OUT THERE, IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN BRING THEM INSIDE.
UM, AS I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITED BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY FOR AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, SO THERE'S IMPACTS, WE WANT TO LIMIT IMPACTS OF NOISE, LIGHT ACTIVITY, DAYLIGHT HOURS.
WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF THE SURROUNDING USES.
SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE RESOLUTION, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONDITIONS IN THERE TO KIND OF LIMIT WHAT HE CAN DO OUTSIDE AND WHAT HE CAN DO IN THERE AS WELL AS WITHIN THE EXISTING ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG PIECES WITHIN THE ORDINANCE IS BETWEEN DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER.
UH, THESE ARE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS.
THESE ARE SCREENING BUFFERS, UH, NOISE, BUFFERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, WHICH ONES HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE ALONG LONG HAMPTON HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
HE'D HAVE TO HAVE A 35 FOOT GREENBELT BUFFER.
SO HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REALLY TOUCH TOO MUCH OUT HERE.
HE KIND OF HAS TO LEAVE IT IN.
UM, THE STATE THAT IT IS NOW HE CAN CLEAN UP UNDER BRUSH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ALONG ASCOT DRIVE BETWEEN HERE AND THE RESIDENTIAL HE'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A 25 FOOT PUFFER.
SO ALONG HERE HE WOULD HAVE A BUFFER OF, UH, THAT HE WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE TO PLANT BECAUSE THERE ARE, UH, IT HAS KIND OF BEEN CLEANED UP BY, I THINK THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, THAT MAINTAINS THAT AREA.
SO, BUT HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME VEGETATIVE SCREENING THERE.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WE INCLUDED, UH, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED ALONG BECAUSE THIS IS LIMITED BUSINESS OVER HERE, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY KIND OF TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, BUT STAFF FELT BECAUSE OF THIS IS BEING USED AS RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW.
WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS PROTECTED.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED A CONDITION TO PUT A 25 FOOT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE.
AND IN ADDITION, BECAUSE OF HIS PARKING LOT, BEING HERE, BASICALLY DIRECTLY AFFECTING THIS RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, UH, WE HAVE REQUIRED
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A FENCE TO BE ON THE INSIDE OF THE PARKING AREA, SO THAT ANY CARS TURNING ON THEIR LIGHTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT SHINING DIRECTLY INTO THIS HOUSE.UH, SO TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, UH, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO ADD CONDITIONS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT BUFFER MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION HERE, OKAY.
ON THAT BUFFER, UH, 25, 25 FOOT BUFFER ALONG ASCOT, UM, GIVE US SOME IDEA OF THE PLANTINGS.
SO IT WOULD BE MOSTLY EVERGREENS OR THERE COULD BE SOME DECIDUOUS.
SHE'S GOT A LOT OF EXISTING MATURE TREES THAT I WOULD IMAGINE HE'D WANT TO KEEP THEIR, UM, TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, THE DECENT, SOLID BUFFER, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRANSPLANT WITH EVERGREEN.
SO YOU WOULD YEAR ROUND, YOU'D HAVE A GREEN BUFFER THERE.
SO WHERE'S THE ACTUAL POINT OF SALES ON THIS.
HE HAS TWO ENTRANCES, ONE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS ACROSS FROM SALSBURY WAY.
AND THEN ONE UP FURTHER THIS END, UM, WHICH WOULD COME OUT HERE BASICALLY IN BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES.
WELL, THAT'S THE ENTRY, WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE BILL.
THE DOOR FRONT DOOR IS RIGHT HERE.
I TRANSPOSE THE PLAN ON TOP OF THE AERIAL, SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER LOOK AT IT.
SO YOU WOULD DRIVE IN, LET ME SEE IF I GET MY CURSOR OUT OF HERE.
YOU DRIVE IN HERE AND THEN IF HE'S GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE, UH, CANOPY, I BELIEVE HERE, YOU COULD PULL UP, YOU KNOW, UNLOAD AND THEN GO PARK YOUR CAR.
AND THE FRONT DOOR WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
SO HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST JUSTIFY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE CORRECT STATEMENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PARKING RELATIVE TO THE BUILDING, OR IS THAT JUST A SCALE ISSUE? I'M NOT, I KNOW HE IS OVER PARKED A LITTLE BIT.
HE WOULD, UH, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE EXACT FLOOR PLAN FOR WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE AND HE WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING.
WE CALCULATED HE'S ABOUT 20 SPACES OVER WHAT HE WOULD NEED.
UM, SO IF, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN ALL THAT PARKING AND WHEN WE DID MAKE HIM AWARE, ALL RIGHT.
SO, SO THE SIZE OF THE PARKING LOT, DOESN'T REALLY INDICATE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC FLOW.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE EXCESSIVE TRACK PROFIT FLOW, CORRECT? CORRECT.
IT'S ABOUT 25 TO 27 TRIPS PER HOUR ON AM AND PM.
SO IT'S NOT A HEAVY TRAFFIC GENERATOR AT ALL.
WHICH IS THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.
UM, ASCOT DRIVE HAS ABOUT A THOUSAND TO 1200 TRIPS A DAY RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE NO DIRECT ACCESS ONTO HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
THE ONLY ACCESS WOULD BE AS THOSE AS MR. SHEPHERD POINTED OUT ON ASCOT DRIVE.
SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, A USE PERMIT THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE ZONING DESIGNATION.
WE DO FEEL LIKE THE RESOLUTION AND THE CONDITIONS IN THERE WILL, UM, WILL ENSURE THAT THIS IS A MINIMAL IMPACT, UM, USE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS, IT IS A LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR, AND WE WOULD, AS STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 21 DASH 30 93 93.
UM, AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, WE ALSO RECEIVED, AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL GOT IT IN YOUR EMAIL.
WE DID RECEIVE A PETITION FROM THE YORKSHIRE DAY ON SUBDIVISION WITH ABOUT 102 SIGNATURES ON IT, UH, FROM, UH, RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT YEAH.
UM, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A COUPLE EMAILS THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKET.
WALLACE IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANY ARE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
GARY ANDERSON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
WALLACE IS BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
HE HAD TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, TO BUILD THAT IN 1989.
SINCE 1989, HAS HE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS OR HAS IT BEEN A SMOOTH OPERATION? HAVE THERE BEEN COMPLAINTS GENERATED BY HIS, UH, VETERINARIAN CLINIC THERE? AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, OUR, UH, ZONING ENFORCEMENT OFFICE GOES OUT THERE ANNUALLY TO REVIEW SPECIAL USE PERMITS, AND THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS, UM, AND NOT HAVE, AND THEY'VE NOT HAD ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST DR.
WALLACE, CORRECT? SINCE 1989, SINCE 1989.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SATELLITE OVERHEAD VIEW PLEASE? WRONG DIRECTION.
SO WE ASK SCOTT DRIVE HAS A TURN LANE OFF MAGRUDER WILL LOOKS LIKE, AND THERE'S A CROSSOVER.
IF YOU WANT TO GO THE OTHER WAY, NO TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, RIGHT? OH, THERE CORRECT.
NO, NO, MR. RAMBO, I HAVE QUESTIONS YOU MR. SHEPHERD.
UM, AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE A S UM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS? UH, SPECIAL USE PERMITS ARE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE SO THAT THE BOARD HAS
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THE ABILITY TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS, GET THE PUBLIC'S OPINION, UM, AND ALSO ADD MORE CONTROLS WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.THE BOARD CAN ADD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UM, ON IT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLY WITH TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR USE.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE EXAMPLE, THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER THAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO LB PROPERTIES, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, OTHER CONDITIONS, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, REQUIRE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE, UM, SOUND BUFFERING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THE, THE SUP WOULD REQUIRE IT WITHOUT THE SUP WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY OF THAT.
IF IT WAS A BI-RITE USE, THEN HE COULD JUST SUBMIT HIS BUILDING PERMIT SITE PLANS.
AND IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
ESPECIALLY FOR HIM, IT GIVES YOU AS THE BOARD MORE CONTROL.
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC AN OPTION TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE ABOUT IT.
NOW WE'VE HAD THIS, WE'VE NOW WE'VE HAD A SUPPLEMENT OF SOME TYPE EVER SINCE, I GUESS, SINCE WE'VE HAD THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE NARRATING OPERATIONS.
SO WE LOOK BACK AT THIS PROPERTY.
UM, WE WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1985, AND THAT'S WHEN THAT THIS USE PERMIT WAS, IT WAS ALLOWED FOR VETERINARY CLINICS.
SO IT'S BEEN IN THE ORDINANCE FOR WELL OVER 25 YEARS.
UM, HAVE WE, HAVE WE, HAVE WE EVER RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM A, UH, ABOUT A VETERINARIAN OPERATION? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
UM, I DID NOT QUERY THE ZONING CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NOT, AND WE'VE HAD THEM THEY'VE, WE'VE HAD THEM, UM, BEEN IN YOUR OPERATIONS BEFORE, EVEN BEFORE 1985.
AND THAT THOSE BUSINESSES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN, I ASSUME WHEN THEY CAME IN AND WE HAD THEM WITH DOG RUNS THAT ARE UNSUPERVISED AND THE, UM, PROBABLY I'M GUESSING WITHOUT THE ODOR CONTROL MECHANISMS THAT WE REQUIRED A DAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
NO ONE IN THE STAFF FOR YOU GUYS DID, HOW MUCH RESEARCH.
DID YOU LOOK BACK ON THIS? I MEAN, I DID, AS, AS I SAID, I DID NOT RESEARCH OTHER, UM, OTHER VETERINARY HOSPITALS AND CLINICS.
UM, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY, UM, NOPE.
AND MS. CASTLES NODDING HER HEAD THAT SHE HAS NOT HEARD OF ANY EITHER.
SO TELL ME, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SOUNDPROOFING, WHAT IT SAYS.
YEAH, I THINK IF THE WAY I READ THIS IS THAT IT'S NOT COMPLETELY SOUNDPROOF, BUT IT'S A REASONABLE SOUNDPROOFING OF SOME TYPE, I GUESS.
IT SAYS, UM, THE, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL CONDITION FOR ANY ANIMAL HOSPITAL THAT WOULD GO IN, WHETHER IT'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR A BUY, RIGHT.
IF IT'S WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT HAS TO BE ADEQUATELY SOUNDPROOF AND CONSTRUCTED SO THAT THERE ARE NO EMISSIONS OF ODOR OR NOISE.
SO LITERALLY IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN HEAR, THEY CAN HEAR THE ANIMALS INSIDE.
AND, AND DO WE STIPULATE THAT IF THEY'RE OUT IN THE, UH, OPEN, SINCE DAIRY IN THE BACK WHERE THEY'RE BARKING, UH, DID IT MEAN TO, WOULD THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? I MEAN, THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN OUR NOISE CODERS ABOUT BARKING DOGS.
BUT DO THEY HAVE TO CALL SHERIFF'S OFFICES TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT OR HOW IS THAT BEING HERE? SO THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE EQUIPPED TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, IF IT WAS EXCESSIVE, I WOULD IMAGINE OUR ZONING CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE WOULD GET INVOLVED TO GO OUT THERE AND POSSIBLY, UH, SITE THE APPLICANT FOR EXCESSIVE NOISE.
CAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, AND THAT COULD BE A RELOCATION OF THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
WHICH IS, UH, WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT HERE, UH, FOR HIM TO OPERATE THAT BUSINESS.
UM, HE'S GOT TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THAT'S IN, IN THE COUNTY'S OPERATION.
TALK TO US ABOUT THE REVIEW OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO ANNUALLY, WE HAVE A ZONING CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER WHO GOES OUT AND REVIEWS ALL SPECIAL USE PERMITS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING ALL CONDITIONS.
SO, UH, THAT ENFORCEMENT PERSON WOULD GO OUT THERE YEARLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT HEARING EXCESSIVE NOISE, THAT THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS BEING, UM, DONE.
THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN ARE BEING ACCOMPLISHED, UM, THAT HE'S, YOU KNOW, STILL HAS HIS TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ALL IN PLACE.
AND IF HE DID NOT, THEN THEY WOULD CITE HIM.
AND, UM, IF HE FAILED TO COMPLY, THEN EVENTUALLY IT WOULD GO TO COURT.
AND THEN THE JUDGE WOULD I GO TO QUARTERS AND COME BACK TO THE SUPERVISORS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR, UH, I BELIEVE IT WOULD GO TO COURT FIRST.
AND, UM, I THINK MR. BARNETT HELPED ME OUT HERE OR FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, DON'T WE COME BACK AND REVIEW THESE THINGS PERIODICALLY AND REQUIRE
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US BOARD SUPERVISOR ACTION.I KNOW IT'S NOT ON ALL OF THEM, BUT IN SOME ONLY ON THOSE THAT YOU ASKED TO COME BACK, MR. WOULD YOU REVIEW IT? IF, IF, IF THERE'S A VIOLATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BECOMES PART OF THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S TREATED, WE WOULD ANY OTHER ZONING VIOLATION CODES COMPLIANCE.
IF THEY ASKED FOR OUR HELP, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY GIVE IT AND PR AND PARTICIPATE TO THE EXTENT THEY WANT BECAUSE IN COMPLIANCE WE'LL FIRST SEND OUT A ZONING VIOLATION NOTICE, UM, WHICH THEN THE OWNER HAS THE RIGHT.
IF THEY ACT WITHIN THE 30 DAYS NOTICE PERIOD, TO APPEAL TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, TO QUESTION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHETHER THEY ARE IN FACT IN VIOLATION.
UM, BUT, UH, ULTIMATELY FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, UM, IT GOES TO CIRCUIT COURT, OR IF THEY DON'T APPEAL TO THE BZA, THEN, THEN THEY'VE ACTUALLY LOST THE RIGHT TICKET TO GO TO THE CIRCUIT COURT BECAUSE THEY FACTS STATED IN THE NOTICE BECOME WHAT THEY CALL THE LAW OF THE CASE.
UM, NOW WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK INTO COURT TO ENFORCE IT.
WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE IN YORK COUNTY THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE LONG DRAWN OUT CODE BY CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU.
UM, TYPICALLY, UNLESS FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WERE TO ASK TO AMEND THE TERMS OF THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE DOING.
UM, IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST.
UM, NOW JUST TO CASES EVER COMES UP IN DISCUSSION, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD THIS FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF SPOT ZONING? UH, NO, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED LIMITED TO BUSINESS.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE ZONING, ITS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
CAN YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF WHAT, UM, MIGHT BE AN OPTION IF THIS BUSINESS IS NOT APPROVED OR THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WOULD COME IN BY RIGHT? SURE.
ANY, UH, LIMITED BUSINESS, UH, OPTIONS COULD BE A, THEY COULD BE PUT A RETAIL STRIP WITH, UH, DAYLIGHT STORES.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT ONLY OPERATES FROM 8:00 AM TO 9:00 PM, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
UM, ANY BUSINESS THAT OPERATES IN THAT TIME PERIOD, UH, THEY COULD PUT HERE, UH, SOME RESTAURANTS ARE ALLOWED.
UM, YOU COULD HAVE OTHER, OTHER TYPES OF, UM, IS THERE A BUSINESS THAT MIGHT GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC? I WOULD SAY SOME RETAIL OPERATIONS LIKE RESTAURANTS AND SUCH COULD HAVE A HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUME.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD MEET TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY WOULD, IT COULD BE UP CLOSER TO THAT HUNDRED, UM, TRIPS IN A PEAK HOUR AND W AND THEY WOULD NOT FALL WITHIN THE, UH, AS A, AS A BUY RIGHT THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
THEY WOULD HAVE THE TRANSPLANT, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER, BUT THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER ON THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, I WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED FOR A VIRUS.
AND MY FINAL FINAL QUESTION IS THAT, UM, I, I SEE THE PETITION HERE.
UM, I GUESS IT'S GOT ABOUT A HUNDRED SIGNATURES ON IT, THEN THESE ARE RESIDENTS OF, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THEM WERE ALL RESIDENTS OF, UH, YORKSHIRE DOWNS.
UM, AND IT, IT BASICALLY THEY'RE PETITIONING TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BARRIER.
UM, AND THEY, THEY SAYS SUCH AS THE SIX FOOT, UH, PVC FENCE.
AND I ASSUME BASICALLY THE WAY I READ THIS, THAT IT'S ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY OR THE ENTRANCE AREA, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT THEY, UH, THAT WAS THE REQUEST.
I THINK YOU'RE INTERPRETING THAT CORRECT.
HAD THAT EVER BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, MEETING? NO.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO SPOKE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS THE HOA PRESIDENT FOR YORKSHIRE DOWN.
AND HE SPOKE IN WHAT OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF, HE SAID THEY, THEY, THE VOTE, THE BOARD, UH, TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS.
DID HE EVEN MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I TALKED TO HIM A LITTLE BIT AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT IT.
HE SAID THAT THEY POSTED ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND HAD SENT IT OUT ON THEIR EMAIL DISTRIBUTION LIST.
I'M TRYING TO, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, BUT THEY, THEY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK OTHER THAN POSITIVE THAT PEOPLE HAD HAD, UM, HAD WORKED WITH DR.
WALLACE WITH THEIR ANIMALS PREVIOUSLY, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH HIM AS A, AS A VETERINARIAN.
BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE TWO, UH, LADIES THAT WERE HERE AFTERWARDS THAT WERE TALKING TO HIM THAT DID HAVE CONCERNS.
THEY DID NOT SPEAK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT THEY DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT I TALKED BRIEFLY WITH THEM ABOUT.
UM, AND ONE OF THEM WAS THE NOISE CONCERN.
UM, AND I THINK AS A STAFF, THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFERS ARE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PROTECTING THE NOISE, UH, WITH A FENCE, ANY NOISE THAT HITS IT'S GOING TO GO UP AND OVER POSSIBLY, AND, AND CAUSE MORE NOISE FURTHER AWAY.
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BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE COULD, IF YOU WANTED HIM TO PUT A FENCE, YOU COULD CONDITION IT TO PUT A FENCE ALONG THE INSIDE OF THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER SO THAT WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SEEING IS ACTUALLY THE, THE, THE, THE SCREENING VEGETATION AND THEN THE FENCES ON THE INSIDE.UM, MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION IF, UM, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT OR ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE IT'S UP TO, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL, IF YOU WANT TO CONDITION IT, THAT IS A CONDITION YOU COULD ADD, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S AN ASK OF RESIDENTS FOR A PRIVACY FENCE.
IS THERE ROOM FOR A PRIVACY FENCE AND THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER? WELL, IF, IF YOU ALL REQUIRE A PRIVACY FENCE, DR.
WALLACE WILL HAVE TO MAKE ROOM FOR IT AS PART OF THE PR PART OF THE, UH, HIS CONDITION TO, UH, BUILD THERE THAT THAT'D BE COMPLETELY UP TO YOU.
HE'LL HE CAN FIND SPACE IF HE NEEDS IT.
COULD WE, COULD WE JUST HAVE US AS AREA NETWORKS? I DON'T SEE ANY CASING, THE WHOLE VETERINARY CLINIC IN A FENCE.
UM, BUT PART OF IT COULD BE FENCED TO ADDRESS MAYBE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
YOU, YOU COULD ADD, UM, FENCING TO WHATEVER PORTION YOU FELT LIKE WOULD PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THE RESIDENTS.
UH, MR. ANDERSON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU SAY THE APPLICANTS HERE? YEP.
IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD BE, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US, HI, UH, JOSEPH WALLACE, UH, 100 LEIGHTON WAY.
AND, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, HERE AND THE OTHER NIGHT, UH, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, NICE JOB.
UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I WAS UNAWARE WHEN THEY WERE COMING OUT TO MY PROPERTY, SO I WASN'T THERE TO CLEAN UP PRIOR TO THEM GETTING THERE.
UH, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME IF I COME TO MY FACILITY AND I HEAR IN A WAYS, OR I SMELL SOMETHING, I ADDRESS IT AS FAST AS I CAN.
UH, AS FAR AS THE CURRENT APPLICATION, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT THE RESTRICTIONS COVENANTS, THE EASEMENTS, THE BUFFERS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN PLACED ON THIS ARE BEYOND ACCEPTABLE.
I THINK FOR, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE ASKING TO WRAP ME UP IN A PRIVACY FENCE AS THOUGH I'M AN EYESORE TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO END UP BEING THE CASE.
UH, AGAIN, AS HE POINTED OUT HAVE BEEN IN MY LOCATION SINCE 89, ALL THESE, ALL OF THESE THOUGHTS CAME UP BACK THEN TRAFFIC NOISE ODOR TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
I TELL YOU A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE IN MAKING SURE THAT MY FACILITY STAYS AS CLEAN AS I CAN POSSIBLY KEEP IT.
A COUPLE OF ISSUES I HAVE WITH A PRIVACY FENCE.
FIRST, THEY'RE NOT SOUNDPROOF.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS SOUNDPROOF DOORS ARE GONNA OPEN.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR DOGS BARKING.
WHEN YOU BRING YOUR DOG TO ME, YO, I OPENED MY DOOR.
YOU MAY HEAR FIVE OR SIX DOGS BARKING OUT MY FRONT DOOR.
IF I HAVE DOGS THAT ARE IN THE, IN THE RUNS, WHICH WILL ALSO BE WRAPPED IN PRIVACY FENCE OR IN THE OUTSIDE EXERCISE YARDS, UH, THERE'LL BE BEHIND PRIVACY FENCES.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SOUNDPROOF.
YOU CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT YOU AND TELL YOU THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
OKAY? SECOND PRIVATES DEFENSES ARE NOT THAT ATTRACTIVE.
I MEAN, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES HE SHOWED, THEY ALL DETERIORATE TO SOME DEGREE.
MY BIGGER CONCERN FOR A PRIVACY FENCE, HOWEVER, IS SAFETY.
THERE'S HIDDEN PROPERTY BEHIND PRIVACY FENCES.
YOU ASKED ME TO PUT AN EASEMENT DOWN AND WALK A SIDEWALK FROM THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT THROUGH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IF I PURCHASE IT, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE PRIVACY FENCE, WHICH MAY ALLOW FOR UNCOMFORTABLE, I SOMETIMES HAVE TO GO CHECK ON PATIENTS 10, 11 O'CLOCK THAT HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED, THAT CLIENTS WERE UNABLE TO TAKE THE EMERGENCY CLINIC FOR FEES, FOR CHARGES, WHATEVER.
SO I LIKE TO KEEP THEM IN I'LL CHECK ON THEM AND TELL THE CLIENTS I'LL CHECK ON HIM.
AND AT MIDNIGHT, IF THAT'S THE CASE, JUST TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY.
I WOULD JUST ASSUME NOT HAVE TO PULL UP TO AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE POTENTIAL PERPETRATORS BEHIND PRIVACY FENCES.
NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF, MY STAFF, EVEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO AS FAR AS RAPID MYSELF UP INTO A PRIVACY FENCE, MY INTENTIONS WOULD BE NO.
AND I, AS FAR AS MOVING OVER THERE, IT IS, IT IS INDEED JUST TO
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ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH IN MY PRACTICE.SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, RIGHT? SPEAKING OF GROWTH, HOW MUCH GROWTH ARE YOU ANTICIPATING MOVING FROM YOUR CURRENT LOCATION TO THE NEW LOCATION AND NUMBER OF PATIENTS SIZE? I, I IT'S POSSIBLY F POSSIBLY ONLY FIVE TO 10%.
UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN POPPING AT THE SCENES.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT, I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE NUMBER OFF OF, UH, UH, THE NUMBERS YOU WERE SHOWING EARLIER.
UM, ARE YOU TYPICALLY SITE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS? SO YOU'RE THERE TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT COME UP AS THE OWNER AND TAKE CARE OF IT.
I AM USUALLY THERE MISTER CHEF, FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND SATURDAY MORNINGS OR EVERY OTHER SATURDAY MORNING.
WALLACE HAS, SINCE SHE BROUGHT UP THE PART ABOUT SECURITY, WHAT, UM, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN TERMS OF YOUR LIGHTING AROUND YOUR FACILITY? HMM.
UH, WHAT I SEE IS PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ME PUT IN.
I'LL LIGHT IT UP AS MUCH AS THEY WANT OR AS LITTLE AS THEY WANT.
AND I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR MY SAFETY AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, VERY KIND OF STRICT LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS.
AND CERTAINLY, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, I'M CERTAINLY NOT INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, INTERFERING WITH ANYBODY SLEEP ACROSS THE STREET OR THE HOMES BEHIND ME AND YOUR BUFFER, THE BUFFER OUT IN THE FRONT, UM, IN LIEU OF A FENCE.
WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? OH, I THINK IT'S ALL GONNA BE VEGETATED.
WELL, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN, SOME OF THEM IS A LITTLE BUSHES, SMALL LITTLE BUSH PUT IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VEGETATION, BUT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE WHAT I CONSIDER THE REAL BUFFER.
UH, I KNOW WE HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUFFERS THAT WE PUT IN, UH, BETWEEN CERTAIN BUSINESSES AND HOMES.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A TYPE OF BUFFER THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT HERE.
THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF TYPE, IF THERE IS A TIGHT, BECAUSE THE TIGHT WILL DICTATE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF VEGETATION THAT WILL BE IN THERE.
TROOP TYPE TREES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
MR. ANDERSON, THE LAST TIME I HAD ANY PROJECT, THEY, THEY, THEY GAVE A LISTING OF X NUMBER OF THESE SPECIFIC PLANTS AND X NUMBER OF THESE SPECIFIC PLANTS.
AND THERE MAY BE, LET ME, LET ME GET THE, LET ME GET THE X EXPERT.
IF YOU COULD ADDRESS, SIR, THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE EVERGREEN SCREENING.
AM I RIGHT IN THAT? YEAH, 80%.
SO 80% OF THE BUFFER WOULD HAVE TO BE EVERGREEN SCREENING.
SO YOU'RE TALKING LIKE, UM, CEDARS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHERE IT'S, IT'S GREEN ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND, NO BRANCHING AND, YOU KNOW, BUFFERED TO PUT TOGETHER SO THAT YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH AS MUCH.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR HEIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF GROWTH, EVENTUAL GROWTH? YES.
SO THE ORDINANCE SPELLS OUT ALL OF THOSE PIECES, WHAT, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, AND IT GIVES CERTAIN LANDSCAPE CREDIT POINTS FOR CERTAIN BUSHES.
SO, AND TREES, SHRUBS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN.
SO ALL OF THAT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, TO PROVIDE A SCREEN, A SCREENING THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT TRANSITIONAL AREA.
WELL, I NOTICED JUST AS A COMMENT I NOTICED IN THE PETITION THAT IT JUST GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF A, YOU MENTIONED THE PVC FENCE.
IT DOESN'T SAY, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A PVC, BUT IF SOME OTHER TYPE OF BUFFER YOU CAN PUT IN THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO YOUR BUSINESS, IT WOULD PROVIDE YOU THE SECURITY, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, SECURITY CONCERNS, AND YET MEET THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS FOR THAT BUFFER.
SO I DON'T KNOW, NOT SURE WHAT OTHER BUFFERS YOU PLANTED BUFFERS AND FOR NOISE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFICS, THE YEARS OF TRAFFICKING I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, YOU GOT TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE, UH, BUFFER FOR FOREST.
THEY WILL TELL YOU, YOU NEED 200 FEET NOW.
UM, SO IT'S MORE EMOTIONAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT.
OR MS. ANDERSON, CAN, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO ABATE NOISE, ABATE, VISUAL OF LIKE WHATEVER PLANT THESE TYPES OF SHRUBBERY, PLANTS THAT, TO, TO ADDRESS THAT, AND YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION ON THAT.
RIGHT? THAT'S USUALLY WHAT THE TRANSITIONAL BUFFER IS REVIEWED DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE COMMENTS IF YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TREES THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, UH, THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE ARE NOT THE CORRECT ONES, OR IF THEY NEED SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT.
UM, WE, WE DO COMMENT ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT TRANSITIONAL AREA BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.
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THE GET-GO YES.ONE FINAL NOTE, JUST AS MR. WRONG, 10 YEARS, COACH AND GRAFTON TAB FOUR UNDEFEATED SEASONS PLAYING FOR GRAFTON 69 TO 72.
THERE WERE PRACTICE DOCS TONIGHT.
WE WERE BARELY OUT OF OTHER HELMETS AT THAT POINT.
THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE JEFFREY H SUMNER.
MR. SUMNER, IF YOU COULD COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD YOU HAVE.
THANK THE BOARD FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR YOUR COUNTY.
MY NAME IS JEFF SUMNER, JEFFREY SUMNER.
I LIVE AT 1 0 1 MELBOURNE COURT, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA, THIS, UH, PROPOSED ANIMAL, UH, UM, UH, UH, DOG KENNEL.
IF YOU WILL, WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET BEHIND MY BACK DOOR AS I MEASURE IT.
SO, UM, THE APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, PLACES, THE BOARDED KENDALL DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOME.
SO YOU CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEN.
I'VE BEEN THERE 25 YEARS, RAISED MY FAMILY THERE, HOPE TO RETIRE THERE.
UH, MR. SHEPHERD CONVINCED ME ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO TO STAY IN YORK COUNTY.
AND MY FAMILY DID MY HOME WAS ON THE CORNER OF SAULSBURY WAY AND ASK GOD DRY.
THIS APPLICATION, IF APPROVED WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BOARDING KENNEL, APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET FROM MY BACK DOOR, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY BUSINESS THAT USES THE ENTRANCE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, HOW THE ZONING PLANNING COMMISSION ALLOWED AN ACCESS TO A NEW BUSINESS, APPROXIMATELY 100 YARDS BEYOND HIGHWAY 1 34 IS BEYOND ME.
UM, THIS, THIS BUSINESS, IF APPROVED WOULD BE SO FAR INTO OUR SUBDIVISION, I SUSPECT IT WOULD HAVE TO PAY HOA FEES.
I FULLY SUPPORT LIMITED BUSINESS THAT USES HIGHWAY 1 34 FOR AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT.
I THINK THAT'S THE REASON A PROPERTY HAS STAYED UNOCCUPIED FOR SO LONG.
NO ONE ELSE COULD GET ACCESS THROUGH ASCOT UNPRECEDENTED.
UM, I LIVE ON, UH, I LIVED ON AN ACTUAL WORKING FARM FOR 15 MONTHS.
AS A YOUNG BOY, ANIMALS CAN BE LOUD AND THEY'RE WASTE SMELLS.
BOBBY GERALD'S SUMNER, DMV, GRADUATE OF UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA ATHENS.
WE NEVER LIVED ON OUR ANIMAL FACILITY.
AND MY MOTHER SAYS FOR GOOD REASON, I WORKED AS A CLEANER LABOR IN A FULL SERVICE ANIMAL HOSPITAL AT, DURING MY 10, 10TH AND 12TH YEAR HIGH SCHOOL.
PART-TIME WHAT I LEARNED WERE FOUR THINGS.
ANIMALS ARE AN AWESOME, AWESOME CREATION.
ANIMALS CAN BE LOUD AND THEIR WASTE SMELLS AND IT SMELLS WORSE THAN A HOT SUMMER.
NUMBER THREE, I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE NOR DO I WANT YOU TO LIVE WHERE ANIMALS LIVE.
LASTLY, AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS THAT MY THREE MINUTES.
OH, LASTLY, AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL IS LIKE A SELF-LICKING ICE CREAM CONE.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, BESIDES THE GENERAL MEDICAL PRACTICE, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
YOU CAN DO AN ELECTIVE SURGERY.
YOU CAN SELL COLLARS, LEASHES, BEDDING TREATS.
YOU CAN DO MINOR LAB WORK, WHICH IS A NECESSITY YOU CAN DO GROOMING.
UM, WE BRED MOSTLY MALE AND FEMALE, BUT TODAY, WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT TOLD US WE'D WE WOULD READ THEM.
UH, WE SOLD MEDICATIONS, SOLD VITAMINS, THE BIG RETURN PER YEAR, VESTMENT IN AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AS I SAW IT, MY LIMITED SUBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE WAS IT WAS ON BOARDING.
I SUSPECT ON WHY I CALLED US A BOARDING KENNEL IS BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION USED THE WORD SMALL BOARDING.
THE ACTUAL APPLICATION SAYS LIMITED BOARDING.
THERE'S OTHER QUANTITATIVE DATA USED IN THE APPLICATION DID NOT SPELL OUT HOW MUCH THE INCREASE OF BOARDING WOULD BE.
THAT'S MY RUB BOARDING OF ANIMALS IS MUCH NEEDED IN YOUR COUNTY.
IT WAS NEEDED 25 YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME IN, IT STILL EXISTS TODAY.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD WRAP IT UP.
SO TO THE BOARD, IF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WOULD LIKE AN ANIMAL, COME ON NEXT TO YOUR RESIDENT, THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE.
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MUCH.THANK YOU, MR. SAM, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION, PLEASE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, 1 0 1 MELBOURNE COURT.
I'M THE ONE THAT WALKED THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALTHOUGH THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT IS ON OUR HOA THAT LIVES IN A CONDO THAT DID SIGN.
UM, 90%, AT LEAST 90% DID NOT KNOW THIS KENNEL WAS GOING TO COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
CLUELESS, COMPLETELY CLUELESS.
AND I WILL SAY EVERYONE LOVES DR.
UH, MY ALMOST MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THEIR DOGS TO DR.
HE TAKES CARE OF HIS, THE ANIMALS, AND HE TAKES CARE OF HIS STAFF, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY WANT THIS KENNEL AND ARCH NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO EITHER STAY WHERE IT IS OR GO ELSE.
UM, WHEN I SIT UP, SIT OUT ON MY BACK PORCH, UM, I CAN HEAR HIS DOG KENNEL FROM THE BACK OF MY PORCH WHERE I LIVE NOW.
SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN IT IS RIGHT BEHIND ME.
AND I KNOW MY SWEET NEIGHBOR HERE.
SHE'S GOT A BUNCH OF DOGS AND IF THOSE DOGS HEAR THOSE DOGS, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO JUST SET IT ALL OFF.
SO IS AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GET ALONG TO BE, YOU KNOW, BE L GET ALONG WITH EVERYBODY.
I JUST, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
AND SO ARE MY MEN, UM, ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION GOING ONCE? TWICE? ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, TOM, THIS IS, UH, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IS THERE ANY INTENTION ON YOUR PART AFTER LISTENING TO BOTH THE DOCTOR AND, UH, THE TWO RESIDENTS MAYBE TO TABLE DISH, IF IN FACT THERE'S ANY INTENTION TO ADD SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS ON THE VETERINARY CLINIC? YEAH.
UM, THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WE'RE ALL VERY SENSITIVE TO WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN, WE, WE'RE ALL, WE ALL LIVE IN OUR HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU, WHEN YOU PUT STUFF UP NEXT TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
AND, UM, AND I'M ONE OF THESE FOLKS THAT THINK DR.
WALLACE, GREAT VET AND, UH, HE'S, HE'S, UH, TOOK CARE OF MY PETS AND THINGS FOR YEARS TOO.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M, I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE DOWN THERE.
AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE, IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S STUNNING TO ME, IS THAT, I MEAN, IF YOU READ THAT, WE READ THE PACKAGE AND YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU LOOK AT THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATE.
I'M NOT THE LOOK AT THE, THE BRIEFING MATERIAL, NO ONE COMPLAINED, NO ONE COMPLAINED.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO US.
THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT COMES UP AND SUPPORTS THIS AND YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY I ASK HIM THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW.
AND SO I'M, I'M SITTING HERE KIND OF JUST REALLY FRUSTRATED OVER THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED CITIZENS.
AND, AND ONE IN ONE OF OUR, UH, MY DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SAID HAVE NOW IN FRONT OF US NOW HAVE SAID, DON'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T WE WANT A BARRIER.
AND WE GOT THE OWNER WHO GOT GREAT RESPECT FOR IT, GOT TO RUN A BUSINESS, DOESN'T WANT TO BE WRAPPED IN A PVC FENCE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL ANSWER IS HERE.
AND, UH, I MEAN, I I'VE, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, WELL, IN TRUTH, I DID TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, TELL THEM THEY NEED TO STAY HERE BECAUSE IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WALL IS THAT EITHER WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATION OR SOME DISCUSSION ON WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BARRIER UP THERE TO HELP THEM, BECAUSE THIS THING REPRESENT THE A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED RESIDENTS REPRESENTS A DISCUSSION OF HAVING SOME BARRIER.
I'M JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT REGARDLESS OF HOW I PERSONALLY FEEL.
IGNORE THE A HUNDRED, THE A HUNDRED PEOPLE SAYING THEY WANT SOME BARRIER.
I, I, THERE'S A CONCERN HERE AND WE NEED, AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE, UH, CITIZEN INPUTS LIKE THAT.
I JUST SADLY THAT IT JUST SHOWS UP.
NOW IT DID NOT SHOW UP AT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, ACCESS FOR 1 34 VERSUS ACCESS FROM THE NEIGHBOR, LIKE A LIMITED ACCESS
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HIGHWAY.AND THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T DO IT.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE ICE CREAM PLACE HAS AN ACCESS TO IT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON 1 34 THAT HAVE ACCESS FROM 1 34.
RIGHT? SO
SO ANY EXIT ENTRANCE WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO THE EXISTING ASCOT DRIVE.
BUT AS MR. SHEPARD SAID, HAMPTON HIGHWAY IS LIMITED ACCESS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD TO ACCESS THROUGH THERE.
MR. SHEPHERD, ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING UP A BARRIER OR A FENCE, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, AND THE, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HAVE TALKED AND WHO HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION IS THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT NOISE AND INTRUSION OF BUSINESSES INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT A FENCE WOULD DO ANYTHING EXCEPT CAUSE THE NOISE TO PING PONG BACK.
SO YOU WOULD HEAR THE DOG BARK TWO OR THREE TIMES INSTEAD OF JUST ONCE.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WORRISOME TO ME.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE, UH, IF IT'S THE BOARDS, THAT'S WHY, IF IT'S THE BOARD'S CONSENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THIS BACK TO, UH, MR. ANDERSON.
AND MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH A BETTER BUFFER PLAN PLANTED WITH, UH, THE RIGHT KIND OF TREES AND PLANTS THAT WOULD KNOCK DOWN THAT NOISE.
AND, UH, LOOK AT SOME OF THE PLACEMENTS OF THE, OF THE CANDLES, BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CITIZENS WHO HAVE VOICED SOME CONCERN OVER IT.
WALLACE OF COURSE HAS BEEN A GOOD UPSTANDING MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FOR SINCE 1989 WITH HIS VETERINARIAN PRACTICE.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD DO WOULD BE TO TABLE THIS, TO, UH, DO SOME MORE, UH, CONVERSATIONS.
MAYBE IF YOU COULD GET WITH MR. ANDERSON, MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, UH, HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR MR. SUMNER, AND YOU COULD COME UP WITH, UH, A PROJECT PLAN THAT MIGHT BE MORE PALATABLE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
AND WE COULD TAKE THIS UP IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
WE COULD TAKE THIS UP IN THE AUGUST MEETING, UH, IF, IF THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
WOW, WELL, WELL HERE HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT JUST COME UP, COME ON UP.
I HAVE CONTRACTUAL RESTRAINTS ON, ON THIS PROPERTY THAT, THAT WE'RE CLOSING IN ON AT THIS POINT.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS PROCESS MAY TAKE.
AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY MAY DRAG THIS THING BEYOND THE POINT WHERE THE CONTRACTOR, UM, I'M TELLING YOU IT'LL, IT'LL COME UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO, WE COULD VOTE ON IT TONIGHT, BUT, UH, I HAVE A FEELING YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING? SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST.
LET'S LET'S TABLE THIS AND GET ALL PARTIES, MR. ANDERSON, IF YOU COULD, UH, GET SOME FOLKS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO NO, HANG ON MR. CHAIR.
IT'S JUST TO PROCEDURAL POINT.
IF, IF YOUR DESIRE IS TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I REALIZE YOU'VE CLOSED IT, BUT YOU CAN REOPEN IT.
THEN YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION SPECIFYING TO WHEN, TO WHAT DATE AND TIME.
AND OF COURSE THE PLACE HERE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF, IF THAT'S NOT YOUR CONCERN, YOU SIMPLY WANT TO HAVE FURTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS AND DISCUSS WITH STAFF.
YOU CAN JUST CONTINUE AT GENERALLY AND BRING IT UP AT A TIME WHEN, WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT TO THE BOARD, BUT, BUT THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KNOW, CONTINUE TO PUBLIC.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO FORBID OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FROM ALSO SPEAKING AGAIN, BUT OKAY.
HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.
AND IT HELPS US ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, WE'VE GOT THE BOARD UP HERE HAS RECEIVED RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HAD NONE OF THIS DISCUSSION IN IT.
SO WE HAVE SEEN THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW AND I'M, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S GONNA, WILL WE NEED 30 DAYS.
WALLACE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT 30 DAYS, BUT 30 DAYS IS WHAT YOU'LL GET.
IF, UH, OR LESS WE TOOK IT UP IN A WORK SESSION IN TWO WEEKS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, OKAY.
HERE'S THE OTHER THING FOR THE CITIZENS OF, OF YORKSHIRE DOWNS? I DON'T KNOW THAT HOW MANY ARE WATCHING THIS, BUT THIS IS A TIME IF WE TABLE THIS, TO GIVE ME INPUT TO GIVE THIS WHOLE BOARD INPUT, AND YOU CAN DO THAT, UM, THROUGH, UH, EITHER THROUGH YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME.
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YOU'VE GOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS DOWN HERE, OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO, UM, WHAT IS IT, UH, WWW DOT, UH, YOUR COUNTY.GOV OR TO THE B O S@BOSBOARDOFSUPERVISORSATYOURCOUNTY.GOV.THAT'S A WAY YOU GET INPUT TO US.
AND THAT'S HOW WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS.
SO, UH, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE TABLE IT.
SO I THINK WHAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS SAYING, IF WE TABLE IT, IT COULD STAY ON TABLE INDEFINITELY UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
IF WE CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE KNOW IT'S GETTING BROUGHT UP WHAT I'M SAYING IT CORRECTLY.
IF YOU WANT IT TO BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT HAVING TO RE ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S THE MAGIC OF HAVING A MOTION VOTED ON TO SAY, LET'S CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO WHATEVER NEXT MONTH DATE IS AS SEVEN O'CLOCK OR SOON THEREAFTER CAN BE HEARD HERE IN NEW YORK, CALL IT.
I THINK WE'RE THREE OH ONE MAIN STREET YORKTOWN.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DATE OF OUR NEXT MEETING? THOMAS 17TH OF AUGUST 17 MONTHS OLD.
WE CONTINUE THE HEARING TO AUGUST 17 MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLE IS TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE AUGUST 17TH, 2021 BOARD MEETING.
MR. WELL, ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T, WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF IS REGARDLESS OF THE DECISION ON THIS BUSINESS, THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS HIS OWN LIMITED BUSINESS.
AND IS MR. SHEPHERD WAS KIND OF ALLUDING TO EARLIER IN THE DISCUSSION.
THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF OTHER BUSINESSES THEY COME AND BUY, RIGHT? THAT COULD GENERATE A LOT MORE NOISE TRAFFIC, UM, OTHER ISSUES THAN WHAT IS ALREADY STIPULATED TO MITIGATE IN THIS CURRENT BUSINESS PLAN.
SO AS THIS DISCUSSION HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN SIGHT AND KEPT IN MIND BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO TRADE THIS FOR SOMETHING POTENTIALLY WORSE.
HERE, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THEY CAN, YOU CAN CREATE SOME STIPULATIONS TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND SO FORTH.
ANOTHER BUSINESS COME IN, THEY CAN GO BY, RIGHT.
AND YOU LOSE ALL THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER, TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT'S GOING TO MESH WITH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
[2 Application UP-966-21, Cellco Partnership. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R21-99 to authorize a 199-foot self-supporting monopole communications tower with associated ground-mounted equipment at 124 West Queens Drive.]
ALL RIGHT.MOVING ON TO THE CELL CODE PARTNERSHIPS, UPP 9, 6, 6 2 1.
LAST TIME YOU HAVE TO SEE ME UP HERE.
I PROMISE, UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR 199 FOOT TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER AT 1 24 WEST QUEENS DRY.
UH, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE QUEENS LAKE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO THIS IS, UH, THE PROPERTY HERE IN GREEN.
I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THIS RED BLOCKS, THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION FOR THE TOWER ITSELF, UH, SITTING HERE AT THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND FROM THE AERIAL VIEW, YOU CAN SEE THE MOST OF THE SURROUNDING USES ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL.
UM, JUST SEE IF I GO BACK HERE REAL QUICK.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL IS ZONED RESOURCE CONSERVATION.
SO BOTH PARCELS HERE ARE GREEN AND THE YELLOW IS THE R 20.
AND THEN THE BROWN IS THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
SO MAINLY THIS IS QUEEN'S LAKE ON THIS SIDE, UH, CREEK SIDE LANDING BACK HERE, ROYAL GRANT MRES, RAINBOWS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, AND THEN ACROSS IS, UH, PORTIONS OF QUEENS LAKE AND ALSO VALOR COURT, UM, AREA.
UM, THE PLAN SHOWS THAT THE ENTRANCE WILL COME OFF OF THE ENTRY, THE NORTHERN MOST INTEREST ENTRANCE FROM, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL.
UH, THERE WILL BE A NEW DRIVEWAY THERE'LL BE PUT IN.
THEY WILL TAKE THE GO AROUND THE SITE, UM, AND THEN CURVE BACK AROUND TO THE LOCATION.
IT WILL BE A PAVED, UM, DRIVEWAY, UH, THAT WE'LL GO BACK TO, TO THE SITE.
UH, THE SITE IS ABOUT 300 FEET FROM THE ADJACENT ROADWAY THAT GOES INTO CREEKSIDE LANDING AND ABOUT 320 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST ADJACENT, UM, HOME AND CREEKSIDE LANDING.
UM, I WILL NOTE THAT THIS AREA HERE BETWEEN IS COMMON AREA OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, THE, THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY.
UH, BUT AS ALL IT IS MAINLY, UM, WOODED, VERY HEAVILY TREED, TALL TREES, UH, MATURE GROWTH.
UM, IT DOES SINK DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN THE COMEBACK UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
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LITTLE BIT OF A DRAINAGE AREA THERE, UH, BUT IT IS HEAVILY FORESTED, LOTS OF WOODS.UH, THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE SITE, UH, MICHIGAN SEA.
UH, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE HERE, UH, PARKING AREA, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A FENCED IN 50 BY 50 OR 40 BY 40 AREA WITH THE LEAST AREAS 50 BY 50, THEY WILL HAVE A LANDSCAPE, UM, EVERGREENS AROUND THE OUTSIDE THAT ISN'T ADJACENT TO THE WOODED AREA.
UH, THERE WILL BE THE TOWER, SEND IT IN THE SITE AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT FOR VERIZON.
AND THEN THERE IS ADDITIONAL ROOM IN HERE FOR OTHER PROVIDERS.
WE ALWAYS REQUIRE THAT THEY AT LEAST HAVE ROOM FOR TWO OTHER PROVIDERS.
SO THERE'S A TOTAL OF THREE POSSIBILITIES ON THE TOWER.
THIS IS SHOWING THE TOWER A COUPLE OF NOTES HERE.
THIS IS A FLUSH MOUNT ANTENNAS.
SO THIS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE TOWER THAT WENT UP OFF OF MERRIMACK TRAIL.
MOST RECENTLY NEXT TO THE, UH, I THINK IT'S, BREWSTER'S, UH, GAS STATION THERE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
THE ANTENNAS WILL BE TUCKED UP AGAINST THE POLE, SO IT WON'T BE AS VISIBLE.
THEY'RE NOT ENCLOSED SIMILAR TO THE MAGRUDER TOWER, UH, THE MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TOWER, BUT THEY WILL BE VERY CLOSE IN THERE.
I'LL ALSO NOTE, AND IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL, BUT, UM, THEY WILL HAVE A BALL NET OVER THIS SINCE IT IS AT A SCHOOL.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE AT MOST OF OUR SCHOOL SITES.
THEY PUT UP A BALL NET JUST SO THAT IF ANY BALLS GO UP THERE, THEY JUST ROLL RIGHT OFF, UM, BACK OFF OF THE, UH, AND DON'T GO INTO THE ACTUAL COOL, UM, AREA, UH, WITH TOWERS.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE RESEARCH ON WHERE BEST TO PUT A TOWER, ALL THE GREEN DOTS THAT ARE YOU'RE SEEING HERE, THOSE ARE EXISTING TOWERS.
UM, THEY ARE KIND OF NETWORKED OUT.
YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE KIND OF A GAP OF WHERE THEY ARE.
THAT'S KIND OF CENTERS AROUND THAT RED DOT THAT'S THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
UH, THE TWO BLUE DOTS ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THEY LOOKED AT.
SO THIS LA.HERE, THIS IS AT THE MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
SO THERE'S A SLICK STICK THERE, THAT'S THE STEALTH TOWER WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE TUCKED INSIDE.
AND THEN THE, UM, AREA HERE IS ALONG THIS POWER LINE EASEMENT.
UH, SO THEY DID QUERY WITH DOMINION TO SEE IF THEY COULD PUT A TOWER OR ANTENNAS ON ONE OF THE LARGER POWER POLES.
UM, AND THERE IS A LETTER INCLUDED IN THERE THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT, BUT THEIR ANTENNA STRUCTURE WOULD BE MUCH LESS THAN IF THEY WERE TO PUT A TOWER UP ITSELF.
SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH COVERAGE AS WITH A WELL WITH THE TOWER THAT'S GOING THERE.
AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHY, WHAT THE REASONING WAS BEHIND THAT.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO QUERY THEM A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WITH THE PLANNING QUESTION THAT I'LL JUST NOTE IS, YOU KNOW, A NEW QUARTER PARK SITS RIGHT IN HERE.
AND THEY QUESTIONED WHY NOT PUT A TOWER THERE? ONE OF THE REASONS IS THIS AIRFIELD HERE OFF OF, UH, CAMP PERRY, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE A VERY SHORT TOWER, UM, AND WOULD NOT PROVIDE THE COVERAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THERE.
SO THAT, THAT ISN'T, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU SHOULDN'T LET THEM, UH, THE TOWER APPLICATIONS.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE APPLICANTS DO IS THEY DO PHOTO SIMULATIONS, WHICH SHOW THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER.
WE ACTUALLY DID A BALLOON TEST.
SO THEY DID FLOAT A BALLOON FOR ALMOST HALF A DAY AT THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL SITE.
AND THEN THEY TAKE THAT THOSE PICTURES AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE PHOTO SIMULATIONS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THAT THEY TOOK IT FROM.
I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK TOUR.
UM, SO THIS, UH, IN THE YELLOW CIRCLE IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW OUT FRONT OF THE SCHOOL BUILDING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOWER, UM, LOCATED HERE BEHIND THE SCHOOL, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE VEGGIES, THIS, THE EXISTING MATURE VEGETATION, THEY'RE MOVING OFF TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND THE PARKING LOT.
YOU CAN SEE THE HERE BEHIND THE, THESE TREES.
UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING VEGETATION.
NOW THIS WAS DONE IN THE WINTER TIME.
SO THERE ARE NO LEAVES ON THE TREES.
SO I THINK IF YOU WERE TO GO THERE NOW, IT WOULD BE VERY THAT, THAT THE PICTURE WOULD LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, UH, FROM THE ROYAL GRANT NEIGHBORHOOD SIGN, THEY TOOK TWO PICTURES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS HERE LOOKING IN, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE TOWER THROUGH THE TREES, AND THEN HERE, IT'S NOT VERY NOTICEABLE.
CAUSE THE TREE VEGETATION IS MUCH DENSER BECAUSE THAT YOUR COUNTY PROPERTY IS HERE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF TREE VEGETATION, UM, IN THE COVER, UH, THE CREEKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FIRST ONE IS HERE FROM THE ENTRANCE AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE FROM BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THE BOULEVARD THAT THEY HAVE HERE, THE CREPE MYRTLES, UH, BUT THERE IS EVERGREEN SCREENING ALONG THE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
UH, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TOWER THROUGH THAT, UH, THROUGH THE TREES.
UM, THIS IS RIGHT IN THE ENTRANCE.
SO THE CLUBHOUSE IS STANDING AT MY BACK OR AT THE BACK OF THE PHOTOGRAPHER LOOKING UP.
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THAT, UM, THE, THE TOWER CLEARLY THERE, AND THEN MOVING TO THE SIDE WHERE THOSE HOUSES ARE, UH, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT, THAT THE TREE CANOPY IS BIG THERE.SO YOU WOULD JUST SEE THE TOP OF THE TOWER, BUT THIS WOULD BE FROM THE, FROM THE SIDE, FROM THE FRONT OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND THEN FURTHER BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO SEE IT JUST FROM THE OVER THE TOP OF THE TREES.
UM, AND THIS IS STAN, THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCEWAY INTO CREEK SIDE THAT GOES FURTHER BACK, THAT THEY TOOK THE PICTURE.
AND AGAIN, AS YOU'RE DRIVING OUT, YOU MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ANTENNA.
AND THEN ACROSS, UH, WEST QUEENS LOOKING TOWARDS THE SCHOOL AGAIN, UH, THESE HOMES ARE LESS IMPACTED YOU, BUT YOU STILL CAN SEE SLIGHTLY, UM, THE, THE TOWER LOCATED THERE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, ARE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY OUR HANDS ARE TIED BY, BUT THE FEDERAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT SETS FORWARD.
CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT, DOESN'T PREEMPT, IT DOESN'T GIVE RID OF LOCAL ZONING.
UH, BUT IT DOES PUT A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRAINT ON WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY FOR DENIAL OR IN OUR DELAY OF ANY KIND OF TOWER APPLICATION.
UH, SO IT DOES THE EFFECT OF OUR DECISION CANNOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE SERVICE PROVIDER.
SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S VERIZON, WE CAN'T, WE COULDN'T VOTE AGAINST IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE, AND THE SERVICE COVERAGE THERE, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT FORWARD, AND WE CANNOT ALSO DELAY OR DENY UNREASONABLY OR DENY FOR PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS, SUCH AS RADIOACTIVITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THE TELECOMMUNICATION ACT STRICTLY, UM, RED HEARS US TO NOT CAUSING DENIALS.
OH, STAFF FEELS LIKE THE TOWER WOULD NOT BE VISUALLY OBTRUSIVE.
UM, IT IS LOCATED AT THE, OF A SCHOOL SITE.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL TOWERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AT VARIOUS SCHOOL SITES.
SO THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING, UH, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD HAS VOTED ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE APPROVED THE, THE FUTURE LEASE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AND THIS, AS I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SEE AT OTHER SCHOOL SITES.
THERE IS RATHER DENSE, BUT MATURE VEGETATION ON THE SITE.
AND THIS IS A VERY FLUSH-MOUNTED.
SO THE ANTENNAS WOULDN'T BE STICKING OUT.
IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DRAW YOUR EYE AS MUCH.
UM, THIS WILL ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT FOR CELLULAR CUSTOMERS IN THIS AREA THAT ARE LOOKING FOR SERVICE, UM, AND WE DO FEEL IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND WE'VE GIVEN YOU A RESOLUTION 21 DASH 99 FOR THAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS APPLICATION AND THEY VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, AND THIS WAS THAT THEIR MAY MEETING.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THERE'S NO.
OH, IT WILL SAY YOU DID RECEIVE SEVERAL, A COUPLE OF CITIZEN EMAILS THAT RESPONDED TO DIFFERENT ISSUES, SOME IN FAVOR, SOME AGAINST, OKAY.
THE GOING BACK TO THE FEDERAL TELECOMMUNICATION ACT THE WAY YOU BULLET POINTS READ, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY REASON FOR DENIAL WOULD BE IF IT WERE BE CONSTRUCTED IN A AREA THAT DOESN'T IS ITS OWN FOR THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHERE WHAT'S OUR ABILITY TO APPROVE OR DENY I'VE THOUGHT OF THE FTA BARNETT.
WELL, JUST RECALLING AS BEST I CAN.
THE DETAILS OF THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS ACT.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO ZONE TOWERS OUT OF CERTAIN AREAS.
OF COURSE, THAT MEANS YOU MAY BE THEN DENYING SERVICE TO SOME OF YOUR OWN CITIZENS.
UM, BUT, UH, UM, UH, IF THERE ARE BETTER LOCATIONS, IF, IF, UH, IF AN APPLICANT HAS NOT DONE AN ADEQUATE JOB, FOR EXAMPLE, OF EXAMINING OTHER SITES, THEY, WHETHER THAT'S ADEQUATE OR WHAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT THEY'VE CLEARLY MADE EXAMINATIONS OF OTHER POTENTIAL SITES AND REJECTED THEM FOR THE REASONS EXPLAINED.
THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS ACT OVER THE YEARS HAS STEADILY BEEN AMENDED TO ENCROACH ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY WITH RESPECT TO TOWERS.
IN FACT, WITH CERTAIN KINDS OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES, NOT, NOT TOWERS, TRADITIONAL TOWERS IS THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE MODEL AT ALL.
THEY WOULD HAVE CALLED THE, UH, THE SMALL CELL, WHICH ARE INCREASINGLY, UH, FOUND AROUND COMMUNITIES.
UM, TYPICALLY ON LIGHT POLES, HIDDEN IN THE FACADES OF BUILDINGS, BUT FOR THIS, UM, YOUR, I WON'T SAY THAT YOUR HANDS ARE TIED, BUT, UM, BUT IF, IF IT IS ALLOWED IN YOUR ZONING AND, AND IT IS NOT VISIBLY INTRUSIVE TO THE POINT OF, OF DEDUCTION METAL TO PROPERTY VALUES, THEN THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF BASIS, UH, TO, TO DENY AN APPLICATION FOR A TOWER.
UM, AGAIN, THE ONE SPECIFIC THING YOU CAN'T DO IS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CLAIMS THAT YOU WILL SOMETIMES HEAR THAT TOWERS EMIT HARMFUL RADIATION, NOT, NOT TO RADIOACTIVITY, BUT RADIATION SUNLIGHT'S RADIO, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEALTH CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
AND THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION HAS SAID THAT THERE'S NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR THAT.
SO, UM, YOU CAN, I MEAN, YOU CAN DENY THEM, BUT IT HAS TO BE REASONABLE.
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UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU CAN REASONS OR DENYING THEM, BUT IF IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT WOULD, IF, UM, FOR REASONS OTHER THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH CONCERNS, ET CETERA, IF IT WOULD BE THE NET DETRIMENTAL TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A CONTRARY TO YOUR ZONING, THEN YOU CAN DO THAT.THANK YOU, MR. BARNETT FOR SAVING THIS.
UH, YES, THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M ZONING COUNSEL FOR VERIZON WIRELESS WITH AN ADDRESS AT 44 0 MONTICELLO AVENUE, SUITE 2200 IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK.
AND, UH, I WILL HAVE TO SAY I'VE PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT, BUT EARL'S POWERPOINT MORE OR LESS MIRRORS MY POWERPOINT.
SO, UH, WE'VE WE STARTED WORKING WITH EARL ON THIS GOSH, BACK IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LONG TIME WORKING TOGETHER AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT HE'S PUT INTO THIS, INTO MAKING THIS, THE APPLICATION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, UH, IT'S EVENING.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP, UM, WAS SORT OF THE ZONING ISSUE.
SO AS YOU HEARD, UH, THE EXPLANATION PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS A USE THAT'S PERMITTED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, IN OUR CASE, RC, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT HEIGHT AND THE WAY THE ANTENNAS ARE ASSEMBLED ON THE TOWER, HOW MANY USERS YOU GET ON THE TOWER, HOW CLOSE IT IS TO HOMES, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, SO YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT EARL, I'M SORRY.
I'M HOW DO I GET THIS THING TO ADVANCE? THERE WE GO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT EARL DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, I STARTED DOING THIS IN THE LATE NINETIES AND THE, UH, LATEST DATA THAT WE HAVE, OR THE EARLIEST DATA THAT WE HAVE WAS IN, IN DECEMBER OF 2007, ONLY 16% OF PEOPLE WERE WIRELESS ONLY IN THEIR HOMES.
AT THAT POINT, A CELL PHONE WAS A NICE TO HAVE, BUT NOT A HAVE TO HAVE.
UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO BE NEAR A NEIGHBORHOODS, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE COVERAGE TO FOLKS IN THEIR HOMES WHO WANTED TO USE THEIR WIRELESS PHONES FAST FORWARD TO JUNE OF 2020, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT DATA THAT WE HAVE.
THAT NUMBER IS 62 AND A HALF PERCENT OF ADULTS NOW ARE LIVING IN WIRELESS, ONLY HOMES.
THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE A LANDLINE PHONE.
THAT MEANS THE ONLY MEANS THEY HAVE OF A TELEPHONIC COMMUNICATION AS A WIRELESS DEVICE.
IF YOU LOOK AT HOMES THAT HAVE ADULTS AND CHILDREN, THAT NUMBER IS ALMOST 74%.
AND CERTAINLY THE MILLENNIALS AND GEN Y AND THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS TO GO DOWN TO THE LOCAL PHONE COMPANY AND PAY TO GET A PHONE AND BRING IT TO YOUR HOUSE AND HOOK IT UP.
EVERYBODY HAS A WIRELESS PHONE.
THE CURRENT PANDEMIC HAS, HAS FURTHER INCREASED THE RESULT OF THE NEED FOR WIRELESS FACILITIES.
SO I HAD TO WORK FROM HOME FOR 15 MONTHS.
I NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY WIRELESS PHONE WORKED.
I WASN'T GONNA, UH, DIDN'T HAVE A WIRELINE PHONE AT HOME, ALSO NEEDED TO MAKE SURE I COULD GET DATA CAPACITY.
SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE MORE USERS THAN EVER USING WIRELESS PHONES, BUT NOW YOUR WIRELESS PHONE IS, I HATE TO SAY IT IT'S ENTERTAINMENT FOR MY SEVEN-YEAR-OLD AND HE CAN, YOU KNOW, WATCH YOUTUBE VIDEOS AS WE'RE GOING DOWN THE INTERSTATE.
HE'S GOT A QUESTION ON GOOGLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU USED TO HAVE TO SIT IN YOUR HOUSE AND LOOK AT A TELEVISION FOR, OR SIT IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER.
NOW YOU CAN USE YOUR WIRELESS DEVICE FOR A BACK, UH, MAY OF LAST YEAR.
THERE WAS A GREAT ARTICLE IN PILOT ONLINE THAT THE DAILY PRESS ALSO CARRIED ABOUT HOW NOW EVERYDAY LIFE IS MANAGED ELECTRONICALLY.
PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS.
PEOPLE WERE ORDERING FOOD, ONLINE, REFILLING PRESCRIPTIONS.
AND AT THAT POINT, EVERYBODY BECAME KEENLY, BECAME KEENLY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THAT FOLKS HAD WIRELESS SERVICE.
THIS IS JUST A CHART THAT SHOWS YOU THAT SAME THING.
HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW ARE, ARE WIRELESS AT HOME.
MOST PEOPLE NOW THAT HAVE A WIRELINE PHONE IT'S FOR THEIR ADT SERVICE OR THEIR OLD-FASHIONED, UH, SECURITY SYSTEM.
I MEAN, BASICALLY WIRELESS, UH, IT'S JUST RADIO SIGNALS.
UM, THE WIRELESS NETWORK OF ANTENNA SITES IS A SERIES OF ANTENNAS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HAND OFF A SIGNAL SO THAT YOU DON'T LOSE COVERAGE.
UH, THIS IS THE SAME MAP THAT, UM, THAT EARL SHOWED YOU.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED TOWER LOCATION, THE EXISTING SITES THAT WE HAVE THERE, UH, TO THE NORTH.
THIS, WE REFER TO IT AS QUEENS, QUEENS CREEK, BUT IT'S BRUTON HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, VERIZON IS ON AN EXISTING TOWER.
THAT TOWER IS APPROXIMATELY JUST UNDER TWO MILES AWAY AND IT'S 180 FEET.
THEN IF YOU LOOK DOWN HERE, THERE'S A SITE CALLED CHEATHAM.
THAT IS 185 FOOT TOWER, UH, NEAR
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THE NEW QUARTERS BAPTIST CHURCH OFF OF PENNIMAN ROAD.AND THAT'S ABOUT THREE MILES AWAY.
SO YOU GET A SENSE OF THE DISTANCE OF THESE, UM, KINGSMILL, WHICH IS DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH IS 183 FOOT TOWER LOCATED ACROSS FROM ST.
THAT ONE IS EARL WAS MENTIONING.
HE HAD A SITE AT MCGRUDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WAS ABOUT IN THIS AREA.
IT REALLY WOULD HAVE DUPLICATED THE COVER FROM KINGSMILL.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO COVER THE AREA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COVER.
THEN YOU'VE GOT A SITE NEAR THE FIFTH AVENUE, DISTILLERY, 140 FOOT TOWER.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO NAMES THESE, BUT THAT ONE'S REFERRED TO AS DOUBLE D.
UM, AND THAT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY A 1.8, FOUR MILES AWAY.
AND THEN OVER HERE, DOWNTOWN WILLIAMSBURG IN THE BELL TOWER OF WAYMAN MARY'S BARRETT HALL, THEIR ANTENNAS IN THE BELL TOWER, THOSE ARE ONLY 74 FEET.
SO THEY REALLY GETS LIMITED COVERAGE THERE.
AND THE LAST IS UP HERE TO THE NORTH WEST WALLER MILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 180 FOOT TOWER.
AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILES FROM THE SITE.
SO YOU SEE THE NETWORK AS EARL SHOWED YOU.
ALL OF THOSE GREEN, UH, SITES ARE SITES THAT VERIZON WIRELESS IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ON.
SO THE ONLY SITES THAT WE AREN'T ON ARE MAGRUDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH HAS SAID IS, IS VERY CLOSE TO THE KINGSMILL SITE.
AND THEN, UH, THE POWER LINES WERE EXAMINED AND THOSE WERE FOUND TO BE STRUCTURALLY UNSUITABLE TO, TO, TO, UH, SUPPORT THE TYPES OF ANTENNAS THAT, THAT VERIZON WANTED TO PUT, TO PROVIDE FULL COVERAGE TO THE RESIDENCE TOWER SIGHTING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LIMITS.
IT REALLY IS THIS INTERSECTION OF, UH, OF STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS.
SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE FEDERAL LAWS, NEPA, HISTORIC RESOURCES, WETLANDS, ENDANGERED SPECIES, YOU NAME IT.
SO IT'S, THE SITES ARE THOROUGHLY LOOKED AT IN THIS CASE THERE, WHERE THERE ARE NO SITES AVAILABLE, WHICH AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AS A LONG AND INEXPENSIVE PROCESS, UH, MOST CARRIERS WOULD RATHER GO ON AN EXISTING SITE BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO HIRE ME.
AND THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE TIME AND GO THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS THAT IT TAKES.
UM, THEY DO HAVE TO FIND A WILLING LANDLORD, WIRELESS CARRIERS.
ALTHOUGH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THIS UTILITY.
LIKE YOU ARE TO DEVELOP OTHER UTILITIES.
THEY DON'T HAVE RIGHTS OF CONDEMNATION.
SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WILLING LANDLORD AS EARL INDICATED THE SCHOOL BOARD IN THIS CASE, UM, IS THE WILLING LANDLORD, THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF AND THE SCHOOL STAFF AND THE COUNTY STAFF SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIND THE SITE FOR THIS LOCATION.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE, THE RESULT OF THAT WORK.
I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, THE COUNTY PUBLISHES ALL OF THEIR, UH, UH, AVAILABLE TOWERS.
30% OF TOWERS IN THE COUNTY ARE SCHOOL SITES.
AND THAT, UM, JUST IS A HISTORIC PREFERENCE FOR A LOT OF LOCALITIES TO LOOK AT SCHOOL SITES SO THAT THE MONEY GOES TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO LOOK AT LEASING OTHER, UM, COUNTY-WIDE FACILITIES.
THIS SHOWS YOU THE AREA I'M WANTING TO POINT OUT.
EARL DID A GOOD JOB OF TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THERE IS A DITCH CREEK DEPRESSION, WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE COMMON AREA HERE.
SO IT REALLY IS A NICE DEEP FORESTED, MATURE, UH, VEGETATION BUFFER THAT'S PROVIDED AS EARL INDICATED.
AND I'LL, I'LL SKIP THROUGH THESE BECAUSE EARL SHOWED YOU THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THIS WAS IN THE WINTER, IT WAS VERY COLD DAY THAT WE DID THIS AND YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE NO LEAVES ON THE TREES.
AND, UH, AND WHAT YOU SEE THE ANTENNA DESIGN, THE MODIFIED FLUSH MOUNT THAT WE'VE USED IN OTHER PLACES REALLY DOES LIMIT THE IMPACT, UH, FROM THE PLACES WHERE WE COULD SEE THE GIANT RED BALLOON.
SO AGAIN, THEY FLOAT A RED BALLOON, THAT'S THREE FEET IN DIAMETER, AND THEN THEY TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS.
I WAS THERE ACTUALLY, WHEN, WHEN THIS WAS DONE, UM, THAT SHOWS YOU, THIS IS THAT SAME SHOT THAT EARL HAD.
THESE ARE THE EXACT SAME PHOTO SIMS THAT EARL'S ALREADY SHARED WITH YOU.
UM, AS FAR AS OUTREACH, EARLY ON, EARL SAID UM, ENCOURAGED US TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS.
WE REACHED OUT TO, UM, SUPERVISORS RAMBO BECAUSE HIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY CLOSE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE REACHED OUT TO ROYAL GRANT AND CREEKSIDE LANDING, UH, IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE COULD.
I REACHED OUT TO THE CREEKSIDE LANDING, UM, UH, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, HOA, UM, WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN ARRANGING A MEETING WITH THEM.
SO WE SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH EARL'S HELP.
UM, IT WAS ZOOM BECAUSE IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.
WE HELD A ZOOM MEETING AND INVITED, I THINK IT WAS OVER 250 PEOPLE, UH, FROM CREEKSIDE LANDING AND FROM ROYAL OLIVE ROYAL GRANT.
AND THEN FROM THE CROSS, THE STREET AS WELL.
UM, MR. UH, SUPERVISORS RAMBO WAS THERE AND ENCOURAGED ME TO HAVE THE COUNTY TAKE THAT ZOOM
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VIDEO AND POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD THEN GO BACK AND WATCH IT.UH, AND THEN LASTLY, I ACTUALLY PREPARED A BLURB FOR EARL, UM, TO SEND YOU A CONTACT THAT HE HAD AT CREEKSIDE LANDING.
SO THEY PUT IT ON THEIR FACEBOOK.
SO AS SOME OF THE FOLKS HAVE PUT IN THEIR EMAILS, THEY SAW THIS ON FACEBOOK AND THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, AS EARL INDICATED, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
WE'VE SPENT AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT SITE HERE AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
WE, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE, TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS KNOLL.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION I'M WONDERING WILL THIS MONOPOLE SUPPORT MORE THAN ONE.
IN FACT, AS A REQUIREMENT OF YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED, THERE'LL BE AT LEAST THREE.
SO IT WOULD BE VERIZON AND AT LEAST TWO OTHER USERS IN ADDITION.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS MR. ZAREMBA.
UH, WELL, A COMMENT, FIRST OF ALL, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, THE COMPANY, TRYING TO ADVISE PEOPLE, UH, TO ATTEND THE ZOOM MEETING, RIGHT.
UH, I GOT, UH, ON THIS ISSUE, I GOT A TOTAL OF TWO EMAILS IN OPPOSITION, BUT THERE ARE WRITTEN BY THE SAME PERSON.
THE FIRST EMAIL, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO WAS, UH, THERE WAS NO NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS.
AND IN POINT OF FACT, AS WE JUST HEARD, UH, THERE WERE POSTCARDS MAILED FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN ZOOM.
SO THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS ZOOM MEETING, OKAY.
AFTER THE NOTICE TO THE ENTIRE WAS ZAREMBA AND ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT NOW I THINK WE ALL KNOW ZOOM MEETINGS ARE PAIN IN THE NECK AND NEVER EFFECTIVE COMPARED TO IN PERSON, BUT THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT BY THE, UH, UH, VERIZON POINT OF CONTACT TO GET THE WORD OUT.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I HAVE THOUGH, UH, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO, WOULD BE, UM, THE HEALTH ISSUE RELATIVE TO THESE KINDS OF INTENTIONS.
SO WHAT THE FEDERAL LAW SAYS IS, AS MR. BARNETT INDICATED, IS THAT THE FCC REGULATES THE HEALTH OF, UH, OR, OR, UM, WIRELESS EMISSIONS.
AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE FEDERAL LAW ACTUALLY SAYS IS IF THE CARRIER SHOWS THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL HEALTH REQUIREMENTS, WITH THE FCC REQUIREMENTS FOR EMISSION SAFETY, THEN THE COUNTY CAN'T CONSIDER IT.
SO AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF YOUR APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES A NEAR REPORT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT REPORT IS TO SHOW THAT THE ANTENNAS THAT WILL BE OPERATING WILL COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE EMISSIONS FROM THE TOWER AT GROUND LEVEL WILL BE HUNDREDS OF TIMES LESS THAN WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SETS IS THAT LIMIT.
UH, AND IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE EMISSIONS IN THIS ROOM FROM ALL OF THE ELECTRONICS AND ALL OF THE WIRELESS DEVICES PEOPLE HAVE SITTING IN THEIR PURSE OR IN THEIR POCKET.
UM, WHY NOT A HIDDEN ANTENNA ARRAY IN THIS CASE, AS OPPOSED TO EXPOSED, THEY FOUND WITH THE, UM, COMPLETELY INTERNAL ANTENNA ARRAYS, IS IT LIMITS THE COVERAGE.
SO WHAT YOU END UP HAVING IS ONE COMPANY HAS TO TAKE TWO SPOTS INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO SHARE.
SO YOU'RE LIMITED IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE INTERNAL ANTENNA ARRAYS, THEY CAN ONLY GET THREE ANTENNAS ON THE INSIDE OF THAT CANISTER.
THAT'S GOTTEN A PIG SCREEN WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THE MODIFIED FLUSH MOUNT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ANTENNAS, WHICH INCREASES THE CAPACITY AND THE COVERAGE THAT YOU CAN GET FROM THAT SITE.
THE, THE, THE RENDERING OF THE ATTENDER ARRAY TODAY, IS THAT JUST FOR ROSALYN'S IMPLEMENTATION OR THAT IS THE, UH, YES, THE PR THE, UH, PHOTO SIMS, JUST SHOW THE ONE SET OF ANTENNAS.
BUT I THINK AS EARL INDICATED, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS JUST POPPING ABOVE THE TREE LINE AND ABOVE SOME OF THE HOUSES.
THERE'S 10 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN EACH SET OF ANTENNAS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT SECOND SET, BUT IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE FIRST ANYBODY GOING ON THE TOWER WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT SAME MODIFIED FLUSH MOUNTS.
SO THIS ANTENNA RAY GOING HERE, WHAT PROBLEMS DOES THAT SOLVE? WHAT COVERAGE ISSUE DOES THAT ADDRESS? SO TO GO BACK, UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET BACK TO THE NETWORK.
UM, IT HELPS TO COVER QUEEN'S LAKE AND THE, UM, ROYAL GRANT AREA IN THE, IN THE AREA AROUND THE SCHOOL.
SO THE EASY AREAS TO COVER ARE ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, UH, MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, MORE HIGHLY TRAVELED AREAS WHERE WE, THE CARRIERS HAVE CHALLENGES IS CONFERRING RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY IS INAPPROPRIATE.
SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR OTHER TYPES OF PROPERTIES, WHICH FRANKLY IS, IS PART OF THE REASON, UH, SCHOOL SITES HAVE BEEN USED.
SO OFTEN IT GIVES THE CARRIERS THE ABILITY TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
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UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COVERAGE TO THE HOMES THAT ARE CLOSE BY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET CLOSE TO THE HOMES TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD PEOPLE TO COVERAGE INSIDE THEIR HOMES, RIGHT COVERAGE, IN WHAT CAPACITY IS THIS A 5G COVERAGE ISSUE OR 4G CDMA? WHAT WOULD BE THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS THE 4G LTE, THEY WOULD DESIGN IT SO THAT IT COULD ACCOMMODATE 5G.BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE, UM, YOU'RE REALLY ONLY SEEING 5G IN THE HEAVILY POPULATED, UM, CITY CENTERS AND URBAN LOCATIONS.
THIS PARTICULAR SITE WOULD BE PREDOMINANTLY, UH, 4G TO START OFF, BUT AGAIN, THEY COULD, UH, IN THE FUTURE WOULD GO TO THEM.
SO, SO THERE IS A LACK OF 4G ACCESSIBILITY IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT THIS IS GOING THROUGH.
THERE IS A LACK OF COVERAGE, CORRECT IN THAT AREA, BOTH DATA AND VOICE.
AND I THINK THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES MY SECOND, MY LAST QUESTION, WHICH IS ABOUT A FOOD WOULD BE 5G SERVICE.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SMALLER IMPLEMENTATIONS ON LOWER POLES, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A 4G ELT IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS NOT APPLICABLE.
THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A MACRO SITE.
UM, I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE, THE WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT UNLIKE ELECTRICITY.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE HIGH POWER TRANSMISSION LINES.
AND THEN AS YOU GET CLOSER TO CLOSER TO SMALLER AREAS THAT YOU'RE COVERING, YOU CAN GET LOWER AND LOWER THOSE FIVE G POLES THAT ARE ON THE TOP OF, OF LIGHT POLES.
AND THAT TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE AT AN INTERSECTION.
AND THIS USUALLY IN CITIES AND URBAN AREAS RIGHT NOW ONLY COVERED VERY SMALL AREA.
SO THEY WORK BEST IN DENSELY POPULATED, UM, SMALLER AREAS.
SO THEY CAN, THEY GROUP THEM TOGETHER IN THOSE AREAS.
UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HIGH TENSION POWER LINES THAT WERE OWNED BY DOMINION THAT WERE VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
WHY WOULD THEY NOT WORK? THEY'RE ABOUT, WELL, THEY'RE ABOUT SIX TENTHS OF A MILE AWAY, AND THAT THE LETTER IS IN YOUR PACKET.
BUT WHAT DOMINION SAID WAS THE WAY THESE WERE DESIGNED STRUCTURALLY, THEY CAN'T ACCOMMODATE ANY MORE THAN A FEW ANTENNAS.
SO IT WOULDN'T PROVIDE THE SAME COVERAGE.
WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A SITE, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER HALF MILE AWAY.
SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T PROVIDE THE SAME COVERAGE THAT YOU WOULD GET PUTTING THE ONE FACILITY HERE.
UM, YOU'D BE ABLE TO COVER A MUCH LARGER AREA AND IT'S CO-LOCATED FOR OTHER CARRIERS.
WHEREAS THE VETCO LINES, NOT ONLY ARE THEY LIMITED FOR VERIZON BECAUSE THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY LIMITED WOULD THEY WILL LIMIT ANY OTHER FUTURE USE.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF HIGH TENSION LINES WITH TOWERS.
SO VERIZON COULD GO ON ONE, ANOTHER CARRIER COULD GO ON ANOTHER, AND THAT WOULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITHOUT BUILDING THE, A TOWER, IS THAT, AND HAD THAT BEEN THE SOLUTION, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THREE YEARS AGO WHEN THEY APPROACHED VETCO ABOUT BEING ABLE TO USE THIS PARTICULAR LINE.
SO NOT ALL OF THE VETCO TOWERS HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURAL CAPACITY.
THEY WERE BUILT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND ANYTIME A CARRIER WANTS TO USE A VETCO TOWER, THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION OF ECHO THAT HAS THAT AS A IT'S ONE OF THEIR BUSINESS LINES.
THEY LEASE SPACE ON THEIR POLES.
IN THIS CASE, THE RESPONSE WAS AT THESE TOWER STRUCTURALLY WOULD NOT BE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING ANY MORE THAN A FEW ANTENNAS, AND THAT WOULDN'T PROVIDE THE SAME COVERAGE THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THIS FACILITY.
UH, IF I COME OUT OF ROAD, RAN ONTO WEST QUEENS DRIVE, IF I GO LEFT, I'M AT THE SCHOOL MIDDLE SCHOOL, IF I GO RIGHT IMMEDIATELY, I CAN GET ONTO THE COLONIAL PARKWAY ONCE ON THAT, CALLING A PARKWAY AS A DRIVE TOWARD THE COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG COMPLEX, THAT THE TOURISM COMPLEX THAT THEY HAVE JUST AT THE END OF THE PARKWAY, THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE DEAD SPACE IN THERE RELATIVE TO CELL PHONE USAGE.
WELL, THIS TOWER, IF YOU KNOW THE GEOGRAPHIC JARGON-FREE, I'M TALKING ABOUT, WILL THIS TOWER LIKELY SOLVE THAT PROBLEM? I THINK IT WILL HELP THE PROBLEM.
THE CHALLENGE YOU HAVE IS GETTING CLOSE TO THE COLONIAL PARKWAY BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCE RESTRICTIONS.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET CLOSE TO THE HISTORIC PROPERTY.
WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED FOR YEARS AROUND, UM, FOR SITES TO COVER THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THERE.
PARKWAY IT'S CONSIDERED A HISTORIC RESOURCE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
AS I MENTIONED, THE FEDERAL REGULATORY PROCESS THAT'S KICKS IN.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON KYLE DARSH.
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IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.I'M FROM 700 SCHOONER BOULEVARD.
I'M A NON RESIDENT AT CREEKSIDE LANDING.
AND IT'S INTERESTING POINT YOU TOWARD, UH, WHAT'S IN THE RECORD FROM MY LETTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION VERIZON'S COVERAGE MAPS SHOWS AT LEAST FULL 4G LTE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE AREA.
SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY CLAIM THAT THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT COVERAGE IN THIS AREA, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL ACT ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THAT ACT IS CODIFIED INTO VIRGINIA CODE.
AND IN THE VIRGINIA CODE, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL STATEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE LOCALITY TO DISAPPROVE AN APPLICATION.
IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT GIVEN WRITTEN NOTICE TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS AT LEAST 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION.
NOW, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE ZOOM MEETING HAS CALLED IT HAD ONLY TWO ATTENDEES AT IT.
I SAW I'VE SEEN THE VIDEO OF THAT, OF THAT EVENT.
HOWEVER, ALSO CLAIMED IN THAT SAME MEETING IS THAT POSTCARDS WENT OUT TO RESIDENCES IN THE AREA.
NOW I NEVER RECEIVED A POSTCARD.
I TALKED TO THE OTHER FOLKS WITHIN DECREASE ISLANDING THEY NEVER RECEIVED ANY POSTCARDS.
IF WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN NOTICE, HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THE MEETING WAS OCCURRING? I THINK IT MIGHT BE OBVIOUS THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT MEETING.
HAD I KNOWN ABOUT IT? I'M HERE TODAY.
NOW IN THAT MEETING THAT WAS COMMENTED ON BY ONE OF THE ONLY NON BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE.
SO IT WAS NOTICED THE ONLY COMMUNICATION TO CREEKSIDE RESIDENTS WAS THROUGH A REALTOR WHO HAPPENED TO BE KNOWN BY EMPLOYEE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THAT DID GET ONTO THE FACEBOOK.
BUT FACEBOOK DOES NOT MAKE A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION OFFICIAL TO ALL ADJACENT LANDOWNERS, JUST AS A FLOATING BALLOON FOR HALF A DAY, DOES NOT MAKE A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION.
NOW AS TO THE PROJECT ITSELF, IT SUBJECTS RESIDENTS TO AN UNDUE HARM DUE TO REDUCE PROPERTY VALUES.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE STUDIES OUT I'LL POINT OUT A COUPLE FROM REALTOR MAGAZINE IN 2014, BASED ON THE NATIONAL SURVEY, 94% OF HOME BUYERS ARE LESS INTERESTED IN BUYING A HOME NEAR A CELL TOWER.
AND IN FACT, THEY WOULD PAY LESS FOR ONE LOCATED NEAR A CELL TOWER AS WELL.
WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO THE NEW YORK REAL ESTATE JOURNAL? SEPTEMBER, 2017 REPORTED THAT IN SOME AREAS WITH NEW TOWERS, PROPERTY VALUES HAVE DECREASED BY UP TO 20% NOW, AS NOTED IN THE BRIEFING JUST SHORTLY AGO, THIS TOWER, THE PICTURES SIMULATED FOR THIS TOWER ONLY SHOW VERIZON'S IN TOWNS.
THERE IS A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT IF FUTURE TENANTS WILL ADD TO THIS TOWER, SO THE VISUAL IMPACT WILL INCREASE WHEN THOSE IN ARE ADDED THAT FURTHER SUPPORTS THE DATA ABOVE THAT PROPERTY VALUES WILL DECREASE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS TOWER.
NOW IN LIGHT OF THE SUBSTANTIAL HARM TO COUNTY RESIDENTS THREATENED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER SUPPORTED BY THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO PROPERLY NOTIFY ADJACENT LANDOWNERS OF ITS INTENT.
I SINCERELY ASK THIS BOARD, PLEASE DENY THIS APPLICATION.
DOES ANYONE ELSE? THIS IS THE LAST THING I HAVE.
UH, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THIS ISSUE? ANYONE GOING ONCE GOING TWICE? ALL RIGHT.
THIS, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK MS. MURPHY TO COME UP WITH ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF NOTIFICATION MS. MURPHY.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE STATE, UH, CODE SECTION THAT THE SPEAKER MENTIONED ACTUALLY RELATES TO THE SMALL CELL SITES AS MR. BARNETT INDICATED EARLIER.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SAY OVER THE PLACEMENT OF THE SMALL CELL SITES, THEY CAN GO UP OVERNIGHT.
AND SO AS A RESULT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REQUIRES THAT NOTICE BE GIVEN TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THEY DON'T SEE A TRUCK SHOW UP AND START PUTTING ANTENNAS ON, UH, ON A SITE.
UM, THE NOTICE FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, APPLICATION AGAIN, UH, MR. ANDERSON WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU SEND YOUR STATUTORY NOTICE, IT ONLY GOES TO A JOINERS.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES ARE A FEW ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE, THE COMMON ELEMENTS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, THE, THE STATE OR THE, THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
SO THE ADJACENTS ARE NOT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS WHY HE GAVE US A LIST OF, LIKE I SAID, OVER 200 NAMES THAT WE SENT SPECIFICALLY NOTICES TOO, ABOUT THE ZOOM MEETING.
AND AGAIN, THE ZOOM MEETING, UH, NOTICES WERE SENT TO CREEKSIDE LANDING.
THEY WERE SENT TO ALL OF ROYAL GRANT.
THEY WERE SENT ACROSS THE STREET.
HOW BIG WAS THE, HOW FAR OUT DID YOU GO? WAS IT QUARTER MILE, HALF WHILE?
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YEAH, IT WAS, HE WAS ABLE TO GET A SPREADSHEET TO US WITH A PRETTY GOOD AREA THAT WAS COVERED ON IT.UM, SO THAT WAS HOW WE GOT THE NOTICE OUT.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE, WE POSTED THAT, UH, VIDEO ON THE WEBSITE, MY NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'M SURE WE'RE ALL OVER THE AREA.
SO FOLKS COULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I'M MUBARAK 21, THE X 99 MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 21 DASH 99 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. ROME.
[3 Application No. UP-968-21, Dirty Quads Motorsports and Graphics LLC. Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R21-102 to authorize a motorcycle sales establishment without body work and painting on a 6.5 acre parcel within the Village Square at Kiln Creek shopping center.]
TIME, LIKE TO CALL HIM MR. CROSS, SHE, YOUR FIRST TIME UP TONIGHT, MR. ANDERSON GETS A BREAK FOR THE DIRTY QUADS, MOTOR SPORTS AND GRAPHICS, LLC.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE MOTORCYCLE SALES IN THE VILLAGE SQUARE AT KILLING CREEK SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 5,005 VICTORY BOULEVARD, SOUTH SIDE OF VICTORY BOULEVARD.
THE, WHAT WE USED TO CALL THE SUPER KMART SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, OKAY.
YOU SHOULDN'T OUTLINED, UH, WITH A LITTLE YELLOW RECTANGLE THERE.
UH, THEY, UH,
ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF VICTORY BOULEVARD IS ALSO ZONED GENERAL BUSINESS.
UH, YOU DO HAVE SOME, UH, UH, PD ACROSS THE STREET, UH, CONVICT YOUR BOULEVARD.
THAT'S THE VILLAGES OF KING CREEK.
UH, SO THIS WOULD, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, SHOP WOULD BE IN THE SMALLER SHOPPING CENTER BUILDING, UH, UH, OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH ENCOMPASSES, UH, INCLUDING THE OUT PARCELS ABOUT 41 41 ACRES.
SO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS ABOUT SIX AND A HALF ACRES.
HERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO GO INTO UNIT H, WHICH IS THE FORMER DRESS BARN OUTLINED IN RED, UH, LARGER UNITS, UH, IN THE BUILDING.
IT'S AN 8,000 SQUARE FOOT UNIT OUT OF ABOUT A 27,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
I BELIEVE HERE'S A VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM THE EAST AND ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S THE UNIT THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE INTO.
AND THAT'S THE REAR BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN OF THE BUILDINGS.
OTHER USES IN THAT BUILDING INCLUDE, UH, VARIOUS RESTAURANTS, A FITNESS STUDIO, PROBABLY I BELIEVE A NAIL SALON, UH, ABC STORE, A VARIETY OF BUSINESSES.
UH, SO THEY WENT TO SELL ELECTRIC VEHICLES, INCLUDING DIRT BIKES, ATVS, UTVS, GO-CARTS GOLF CARTS, ET CETERA.
IT'S THE DIRT BIKES THAT CAUSES USE PERMIT APPLICATION MOTORCYCLES, SALES DO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE GBA ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO BE SELLING CLOTHING, SAFETY GEAR, THINGS THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THERE'D BE NO REPAIRS ONSITE, NO PAINTING, UM, AND THERE WOULD BE NO OUTDOOR STORAGE, NO OUTDOOR DISPLAY.
THEY WOULD BASICALLY JUST BE MOVING INTO THE UNIT.
AND, UH, THE ONLY EX EXTERNAL CHANGE WOULD BE THE ADDITION OF A WALL-MOUNTED BUILDINGS BUILDING MOUNTED WALL SIGN.
UH, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF SIGNED DETAILS THAT THEY SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
EITHER ONE OF THESE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AS FAR AS, UH, ZONING COMPLIANCE GOES.
A FEW QUESTIONS CAME UP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE CONCERN, POSSIBILITY OF FUEL STORAGE.
THESE ARE ELECTIVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SO THERE IS NO FUEL STORAGE.
UH, ANOTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH TEST DRIVING, WHERE WOULD CUSTOMER TEST DRIVE, UH, THESE VEHICLES? AND THE ANSWER WAS THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND THE SHOPPING, THE PARKING LOT, UH, ON GOLF CARTS OR DIRT BIKES OR WHATEVER.
THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY TEST DRIVING VEHICLES.
A QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT NOISE SO ASSOCIATED WITH STARTING UP THESE VEHICLES.
AND AGAIN, ELECTRIC VEHICLES MAKE VERY LITTLE NOISE AT ALL.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY NOT AN ISSUE.
SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND RESOLUTION ART 21, 1 0 2 PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS APPROVAL, UH, LAST WEEK, ACTUALLY JULY 14TH AND VOTED FIVE ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
THE APPLICANTS MIKE AND CINDY STRICKLAND ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
MS. MEL, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
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YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS ON THE TELEPHONE.UM, I LIVE UP IN, UH, UPPER COUNTY AND, UH, SO HYPOTHETICALLY I PURCHASED ONE OF THESE VEHICLES AND I BRING IT UP THE ROLE OF GRANT AND I, YOU KNOW, VERY CONSCIOUSLY TAKE CARE OF IT.
WHEN I DRIVE AROUND RE UH, ROAD RANT QUEEN'S LAKE LAKE SIDE LANDING.
CAN I DO THAT? YOU MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DRIVE THESE VEHICLES ON THE STREET.
I BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE NOT CONSIDERED STREET LEGAL, UH, VEHICLES NOW, WILL IT BE, YEAH, I MEAN,
SO HOW DOES THE OWNER OF ONE OF THESE GET PERMISSION TO DRIVE AROUND? I THINK SHE, FOR YOU, YOU'VE GOT, THAT IS A COMMON USE.
SO WE, WE PAT THIS, THIS BOARD PASSED AN ORDINANCE LEGALIZING LOW SPEED ELECTRIC VEHICLES BACK TWO YEARS AGO, YOU, YOU VOTED AGAINST IT.
SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SCARED.
THEY'RE CONTINGENT ON HAVING A YELLOW TRIANGLE, TAIL LIGHTS, UH, SOME, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, AS FAR AS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, BUT WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANTS AND THEY COULD PROBABLY TELL US A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MR. CROSS.
UH, ALTHOUGH I COULD SEE MR. CROSS RODAN ELECTRIC SCOOTER DOWN TO WORK EVERY DAY AND MAYBE ONE DAY.
SO ANYWAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CROSS, MR. REAL QUICK? SO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, STIPULATES, NO REPAIR OR PAINTING.
WHAT ABOUT ASSEMBLY? UM, CUSTOMIZATION, GRAPHIC APPLICATION IS ALL THAT.
I BELIEVE ANY OF THAT KIND OF WORK WOULD BE, UH, OUTSOURCED WITHOUT LET, UH, THE APPLICANT PARTS ASSEMBLY.
WE WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T BE A ZONING ISSUE.
IT WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT UP IN THAT.
LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MIKE AND CINDY STRICKLAND THREE 14, ELLA TAYLOR ROAD, YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA, 2 3 6 9 2.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING, AND TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE IT AND RIDE IT DOWN THE ROAD, I GUESS YOU WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE LAW AT THAT POINT.
UM, IF THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR AREA YOU CAN'T DO THAT, UM, THESE ARE NOT PLAYABLE.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.
SO AGAIN LIKE THE DIRT BIKES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR WHEELERS, I GUESS, GOLF CARTS IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, KILLING CREEK IS A GOLFING COMMUNITY.
SO I KNOW THEY CAN RIDE GOLF CARTS ON THE STREET, UM, OR ON THEIR GOLF CART PATH.
UH, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IF YOU WANTED TO JUMP ON ONE AND RIDE IT AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU COULD DO THAT.
WHAT THE COUNTY USES DOWN AT YOU'RE OUT AT THE BEACH, IT'S UP TO FOUR WHEELER ELECTRIC, VERY CIVIL.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THIS ELECTRIC OR GAS.
YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANT IT TO.
MY QUESTION IS IF THEY'RE ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES CLEAR IT UP, THERE ARE SOME, YEAH, SOME IT'S UP TO THE CUSTOMER.
IF THEY WANT TO PURCHASE A GAS, THEY CAN PURCHASE GAS.
IF THEY WANT TO PURCHASE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC, BUT WE DON'T SET THEM UP.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, DO YOU WILL NOT HAVE GAS? NO, THERE'LL BE NO GAS ON SITE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO OFFER OIL CHANGES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY KIND OF SERVICE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM.
THEY CANNOT RUN THEM IN THE PARKING LOT.
NO, START-UP IN THE PARKING LOT IN THE BUILDING AND NOTHING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, RIGHT.
THEY'RE WARRANTIED FULLY THROUGH THE VENDOR.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LIABLE FOR.
SO WE WON'T BE STARTING THEM CRANKING THEM.
THAT'S NOT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SELL THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO OFFER SALES DIRECT, AND THEN ALSO SALES DIRECT SHIP TO HOMES.
HOPEFULLY MORE PEOPLE GO FOR THE DIRECT SHIP TO HOME.
WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING BUSINESS.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE SAW IT GROW FROM THE WEST COAST TO THE EAST, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.
UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE GRAPHICS, UM, I ACTUALLY DO THE GRAPHICS.
I HAD A COMPANY FOR 10 YEARS GRAFTON TAB.
I'M GETTING READY TO DO ALL THEIR SPIRIT SPIRITWEAR SO I DO THE GRAPHICS INSIDE THE SHOP, RIGHT.
UM, THE VEHICLES COME ALREADY ASSEMBLED.
SO THE GRAPHIC WORK I DO AS VINYL WORK OR CLOTHING SCREEN PRINTING AND EMBROIDERY.
IT'S LIKE MORE STICKERS, BUT YOU KNOW, APPLYING STICKERS TO THE FERRINGS OF THE BIKES WITH NOTHING.
SO THAT'S HOW THE BUSINESS IS VINYL GRAPHICS, PRINT, AND SEARCH AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE BOTH ON PREM BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF TIMES THE, UM, LIKE OUR SON RIDES, DIRT BIKES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS AROUND HERE THAT RACE AND WHEN THEIR OWN TEAMS AND STUFF, THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO PERSONALIZE THEIR JERSEYS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
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AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO SELL HELMET BOOTS, ALL THE SAFE JACKETS, SHOULDER PADS, ALL THAT STUFF.I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WISH TO SPEAK TO DIRTY QUADS.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC.
MADAM CLERK, MR. DURHAM HAS MADE A MOTION.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ZAREMBA IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 21 1 0 2 TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED MR. SHEPHERD.
[4 State and Local Fiscal Recovery Funds (SLFRF). Consider adoption of proposed Resolution R21-95 to appropriate $6,631,295 in the Fiscal Year 2021 Budget for federal funding received from the American Rescue Plan Act.]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS.AND MR. MORGAN, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UH, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD APPROPRIATE TO THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUDGET.
THE FIRST HALF OF THE AMERICAN, UH, UH, RESCUE PLAN ACT, THE FUNDS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE COME STRAIGHT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE COUNTY OF YORK.
THE ACRONYM THAT WE'RE GENERALLY USING IS ARPA-E, UH, SINCE WE RECEIVED THE FUNDS IN JUNE AND UNDER THE RULES OF THE PROGRAM, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT RECEIPT OF THE MONEY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE RECEIVED IT IN.
UH, IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU DO THAT.
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THE MONEY, IT AMENDS THE BUDGET, AND IT MAKES IT OUR MONEY.
AND IS THIS MEMO AND THE OTHER REPORTS I'VE SENT, YOU HAVE INDICATED, WE, WE STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK AND WHAT THE RULES ARE AND HOW OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ARE GOING TO HAVE PROGRAMS AND HOW THESE FIT IN.
UH, BUT IT'S VERY GOOD NEWS AND IT'LL END UP BEING HELPFUL.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY STEPS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORGAN? NO, MR. SERRANO, I JUST WANTED THAT AS DOING ORIGINAL INTAKE, IS THIS $6 MILLION, UH, FILL A WHOLE SPECIFIC HOLE OR HOLES IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE COULDN'T PERFORM DEPENDENT? HOW WELL? UM, YES AND NO.
THE, UM, UNDER THE LEGISLATION, UH, AS THE MEMO EXPLAINS, THERE WAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOW THE COUNTY CAN RECEIVE THE MONEY AND SPEND IT.
AND UNDER THE RULES OF THE LEGISLATION, WE CAN RECEIVE THIS AND WE CAN CLAIM IT AS A REPLACEMENT REVENUE FOR REVENUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED HAD THE PANDEMIC NOT OCCURRED.
PART, THE NO PART IS IT'S NOT REALLY A BUDGET TO BUDGET COMPARISON.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, UH, TAKING THE TOOL THAT IS THE EASIEST TO MEASURE THE, THE HARDEST TO DISPUTE THE EASIEST TO REPORT.
AND WHAT IT EFFECTIVELY MEANS IS WE HAVE A ONE-TIME MONEY, UH, COMING INTO THE COUNTY THAT IT WILL BE IN THE FORM OF A SURPLUS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE HOW TO ALLOCATE.
SO MY READING, THERE WERE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT PERHAPS CAN SPEND IT, OR W ONE IS THE EASY WAY TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY AND IT DOESN'T REALLY PRECLUDE ANYTHING YOU MIGHT CHOOSE TO USE IT FOR.
IT JUST MAKES ALL OF THE RULES AND THE AUDITING AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO EASIER TO IMPLEMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE A TARGET TIMEFRAME AND WHEN YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO DISPERSE THOSE FUNDS WELL, AS THE REPORT.
SO I'VE SENT TO YOU SO FAR SUGGEST AS OF NOW, UH, WE WOULD SEE THE SECOND SEPTEMBER BOARD MEETING HAVING A PRESENTATION FROM FINANCE.
AND, UH, MY GENERAL THOUGHT THAT ABOUT 80% OF THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT OUR CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO KIND OF OUR DEFAULT ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN IS TO START FACTORING IT INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, SUCH AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY A PUBLIC PROCESS THERE, AND EVERYBODY HAS INPUT ON THAT.
AND THEN AS THAT'S GOING ALONG, WE ENVISION WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STATE CHOOSES TO DO WITH THEIR FUNDS.
AND THERE'S OTHER VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THIS THAT WILL FLOW THROUGH AS GRANTS.
AND SO, AS WE LEARN HOW OTHER PARTS OF THIS PROGRAM ARE BEING ALLOCATED, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NEED TO ADJUST OUR COURSE IF PLENTY OF MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN ONE AREA, WE MIGHT SAY, WELL THAT WE DON'T NEED TO USE THE LOCAL MONEY THERE.
WE MIGHT NEED TO GO OVER HERE.
SO I COULD IMAGINE THIS STILL CHANGING
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A YEAR FROM NOW.AND OF COURSE THE SECOND ALLOCATION WILL RECEIVE ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
SO IT MIGHT BE THIS BOARD SAYS, THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS FIRST ALLOCATION.
AND BY THE TIME WE GET THE SECOND ALLOCATION, WE, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT WE NEED TO USE THIS MONEY BY BEFORE WE LOSE IT? OR ANY CONSTRAINTS LIKE, WELL, THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
THERE'S THE BASIC ANSWER WITH SOME OTHER CAVEATS.
I'M SURE WE CAN FIND A USE FOR IT AT THAT TIME, MR. SHEPHERD, BUT ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.
I'M GOING TO CALL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER, GOING ONCE GOING TWICE GONE, IT'D BE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION 2195.
MADAM CLERK MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY MS. MR. ROAN.
THE MOTION MADE BY MR. ROWAN IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED RESOLUTION R 21 DASH 95 APPROPRIATING FUNDS AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET FOR FEDERAL FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.
MR. ROWAN, MR. SHEPHERD, MR. GREEN.
[5 Amend York County Code Section 21-7.3. Consider adoption of proposed Ordinance No. 21-9 to amend York County Code § 21-7.3 to allow administrative approval of tax refunds up to $5,000 without the necessity for Board Action.]
RIGHT ALONG.WE'RE GOING TO ABOUT AMENDING YOUR COUNTY CODE SECTION TWO ONE DASH 7 3 7 0.3.
AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON MR. BARNETT.
YOUR ORDINANCE CODE OF ORDINANCES WITH RESPECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, TAX REFUNDS ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUE OR OTHER TAX AND OFFICIAL TO GRANT OR REFUNDS UP TO $2,500 WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING IT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
IN 2020, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AMENDED THE STATUTE TO ALLOW YOU TO AMEND YOUR ORDINANCE, TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE REFUNDS UP TO $5,000 WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO YOU.
NOW, TYPICALLY OF COURSE, THEY COME TO YOU, UM, JUST ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, BUT NONETHELESS, THE DELAY AND CAUSE, AND GETTING THAT AND, AND, AND GETTING IT TO THE BOARD AND GETTING AN AGENDA ITEM SOMETIMES MEANS THAT INTEREST OF ADDITIONAL MONTH OR TWO GETS ADDED TO IT.
SO THIS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY YOUR COMMISSIONER OF THE REVENUES, UM, TO AMEND CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUTE, TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE REFUNDS UP TO THE $5,000 AS THE STATE STATUTE.
NOW PERMITS ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARNETT? NO.
I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS GOING ONCE GOING TWICE GONE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
MADAM CLERK COMMOTION IS MADE THE MOTION MADE BY MRS. NOLE IS TO ADOPT PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 21 DASH NINE TO AMEND YORK COUNTY CODE 21 DASH 7.3 TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF TAX REFUNDS UP TO $5,000 WITHOUT THE NECESSITY FOR BOARD ACTION.
[NEW BUSINESS]
THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS.UH, AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE HERE AT YOUR CALL ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 3RD IN THIS ROOM.
AND WE HAVE A VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATION FROM OUR WILLIAMSBURG TOURISM COUNCIL DIRECTOR COMING UP.
[CLOSED MEETING]
AND WITH THAT, THE SNOW, PLEASE TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION.IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 11, A ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CONVENIENT, CLOSE MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER INVOLVING APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOYS WHO COMMISSION'S MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
MR. SHEPHERD, MR. ZAREMBA, MRS. NOLE.