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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE APRIL SIX, 2021 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
THIS IS, THIS IS A WORK SESSION I CAN CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD.
THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS BEING HELD ELECTRONICALLY WITHOUT A QUORUM BEING PHYSICALLY ASSEMBLED IN ONE PLACE PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE ADOPTED APRIL 21ST, 2020 AND, AND READOPTED JUNE 16TH, 2020.
THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD REMOTELY UNDER THE EMERGENCY CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT ORDINANCE ADOPTED UNDER THE CODE OF VIRGINIA SECTION 15.2 DASH ONE FOUR ONE THREE, ALLOWING PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, BOARDS AND OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND AUTHORITIES TO MEET REMOTELY.
SO THE HEALTH EMERGENCY RESULTING FROM THE CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC, MAKING THE ASSEMBLY OF BOARD STAFF MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC, AND ONE PLACE UNSAFE BECAUSE OF THE HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS NATURE OF THE CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC.
SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, THE MEETING WILL FILE THE WORK SESSION FORMAT AS WITH ALL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
MAYBE THIS MEETING WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO WATCH ON W Y C G T V COX CABLE 46, VERIZON FILES CHANNEL 38 OR LIVE STREAMING@YOURCOUNTY.GOV SLASH TV.
I WILLIAM CHAD GREEN BOARD CHAIR, I'M SITTING IN THE BOARD ROOM HERE OF YOUR CALL.
OTHER MEMBERS PARTICIPATING, OR WALTER SEES A RAINBOW FROM HIS HOME IN THE QUEEN'S LAKE SUBDIVISION.
SHE'LL ASK NO PARTICIPATING FROM HER HOME AND KILL HIM.
CREEK SUBDIVISION, STEPHEN ROANE, PARTICIPATING FROM HIS HOME IN THE BRANDYWINE SUBDIVISION.
PARTICIPATING FROM HIS HOME AND THE OLD PORT COVE SECTION.
THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF COUNTY STAFF PARTICIPATING OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. NEIL MORGAN, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY JAMES D. BARNETT, DIANA INGRAM ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR, AND A SMALL NUMBER OF SENIOR STAFF.
MR. ROWAN HERE, MR. SHEPHERD HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A QUORUM, RIGHT? THANK YOU.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CALL ON OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. MORGAN, IF YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE TOPICS, UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, UH, TONIGHT,
[Proposed Fiscal Year 2022 Budget.]
THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR WORK SESSION IS INTENDED TO BE, UH, YOUR DELIBERATIONS ON THE RECOMMENDED FYI 22 BUDGET, UH, WHICH YOU'VE HAD UNDER REVIEW FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS, UH, AT THIS POINT.AND IN PARTICULAR, WE, UH, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO, UH, THE WORK SESSION RELATED TO THE BUDGET.
UH, THE FIRST WE WOULD CALL ON THE CHAIRMAN OF YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICES, GRANTS, ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, TO BRIEF THE BOARD ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET THAT THIS BOARD DELEGATES TO THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, UM, UH, YOU ALL DIRECTLY, UH, REVIEW THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET, WHICH YOU SORT OF DIRECTLY, UH, MAKE YOUR DECISIONS ON AND FOLLOWED BY, UM, UH, AMY ETHERIDGE, UH, OUR HR DIRECTOR GOING OVER THE COMPENSATION AND HEALTHCARE ASPECTS OF THIS BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN, UH, AFTER THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEF YOU ON, UH, WHAT'S CHANGED IN THE BUDGET SINCE IT WENT TO PRINT AND, UH, HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHTS ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, UH, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, A PARTICULAR TOPIC OF INTEREST.
SO THAT'S OUR PLAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN, AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON INTO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL ON OUR CHAIRMAN, DR.
THERE YOU GO BETTER NOW, MUCH BETTER, EVERYBODY.
I I'M SORRY THAT IT WASN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU LAST YEAR TO TALK ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET BACK TOGETHER WITH YOU THIS YEAR.
UH, SO LET ME SHARE THE SCREEN AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO LET ME, LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY STAFF THAT WORKED WITH US THIS YEAR AS ALWAYS, THEY'RE HUGE, HUGELY
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HELPFUL.AND, UH, I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THE HELP OF, UH, BRIAN FULLER AND KATIE MICE.
AND NEXT I WANTED TO THANK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, FROM DISTRICT ONE, WE HAVE GREG SECOND BUREAU.
UH, HE'S A NEW MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR FROM DISTRICT TO ALEXANDRIA PAYNE.
UH, FROM DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAVE ELLEN BACKER AND FROM DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAVE, UH, DAVID ALLEN AND ALL THE OTHER GUYS ARE RETURNING MEMBERS.
ANY REASON THERE WE GO INTO CHANGE.
UH, SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, WE HAD, UH, 14 APPLICANTS FOR FISCAL FISCAL YEAR 2022.
AND I SAY THIS EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES, UH, BECAUSE MANY OF THESE GROUPS HAVE VERY DIFFERENT MISSIONS, UH, AND THIS, SO IN ORDER TO SORT OF ASSESS, UH, WE BREAK THEM OUT INTO, INTO CATEGORIES OF SERVICE.
THIS YEAR, WE HAD, UH, TWO GROUPS THAT FOCUSED ON YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND YOUTH ADVOCACY, UH, TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ADDRESS REHABILITATION THERAPY AND EMPLOYMENT FOR THE DISABLED FIVE GROUPS THAT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING MEALS AND FOOD DISTRIBUTION, OR GROUPS THAT SUPPORT EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL SHELTER.
ONE GROUP THAT WORKS FOR LAND CONSERVANCY AND FINAL GROUP FOCUSES ON END OF LIFE CARE.
THERE'S SOME OVERLAPS IN THE SERVICE, UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART.
AND THIS REALLY HAS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN THEY'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATIONS TOWARDS FUNDING.
THE WAY WE COMPUTE OUR REC RECOMMENDATIONS IS THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN IN YEARS PAST EACH OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES, UH, REVIEW THE APPLICANTS AND DECIDE HOW MUCH, HOW, HOW THEY WOULD DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS.
AND THEN WE GET TOGETHER AND WE AVERAGE ALL THOSE VALUES AND WE MAKE A FEW MINOR ADJUSTMENTS HERE AND THERE USUALLY ROUNDING CORRECTIONS AND, AND THAT'S HOW WE, UH, COME TOGETHER.
AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADVANCE AS RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE APPLICANTS, UH, YOU SEE, UH, THAT WE'VE PROVIDED HERE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT SHOW SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT WE CONSIDER IN MAKING THE DECISIONS.
UH, WE PROVIDED A MAP OF THE SERVICE AREA.
UH, THAT'S COVERED BY EACH OF THE APPLICANTS.
THAT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM LEFT AND A CHART SHOWING THE NUMBER OF COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT THEY SERVE VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.
AND WE ALSO PROVIDE A CHART SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF, UH, COUNTY FUNDING THAT'S PROVIDED TO THEM COMPARED TO WHAT'S PROVIDED BY SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.
AND THAT MAY BE FROM DONATIONS, FEDERAL GRANTS, UH, OR FUNDRAISERS.
AND THESE FACTORS PROVIDE A GOOD, PRETTY GOOD PICTURE OF HOW EFFECTIVELY EACH ORGANIZATION SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY.
AND AT THE OUTSET, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT OUR GROUP IS TASKED, TASKED WITH DISTRIBUTING A FIXED AMOUNT OF MONEY, ACROSS MANY VERY WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS IN EACH YEAR.
THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS ALWAYS EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT THAT'S AVAILABLE.
SO MOST ORGANIZATIONS WILL NOT RECEIVE FULL FUNDING.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT IN NO WAY, DIMINISHES THE HIGH REGARD THAT WE HAVE FOR WHAT THE, THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO AND THEIR MISSION.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE MOST GOOD THAT WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, THE FIRST APPLICANT IS THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICATION IS FROM THE REGIONAL OFFICE.
SO THEY HAVE, UH, A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA.
UM, THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE TO YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS INCLUDE DISASTER RELIEF IN THE FORM OF FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING, AND MEDICATION.
THEY ALSO PROVIDE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SUPPORT TO ARMED FORCES MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATIONS, WHICH MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF, UH, THEY REQUESTED $5,000.
AND THIS YEAR WE'VE RECOMMENDED 1000, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED IN PRIOR YEARS.
NOW, BEFORE I GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE, ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS I GO, PLEASE CHIME IN AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE ARC OF GREATER WILLIAMSBURG.
THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SERVICES IN THE FORM OF WELLNESS PROGRAMS, RECREATIONAL THERAPY, SELF-ADVOCACY AND LIFE SKILLS TRAINING TO A 122 DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED ADULTS IN YORK COUNTY.
THEIR SERVICE AREA IS LIMITED TO JAMES CITY COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY, WILLIAMSBURG, AND
UH, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,395.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST FULL FUNDING, A LITTLE LESS THAN FUNDING.
NOW, THE NEXT IS THE AVALON CENTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SHELTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, A 24 HOUR CRISIS LINE
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COUNSELING SERVICES AND EDUCATION AND TRAINING.WHILE THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES GO TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, THEY ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE IN YORK COUNTY WHERE THEY DIRECT, THEY DIRECTLY SUPPORT 180 RESIDENTS LAST YEAR.
UH, THEY ALSO RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE FUNDRAISING PROGRAM.
WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING OF $3,880 TO THIS GROUP.
IT'S SLIGHTLY MORE THAN LAST YEAR, BUT SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THEY REQUESTED.
I SEE IT'S A NEW ORGANIZATION FOR THIS YEAR.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FROM THEM.
THIS IS THE BACON STREET YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION FOCUSES LARGELY ON PROVIDING PREVENTIVE AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF YOUTH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEIR JOURNEY HOME PROJECT PROVIDES SERVICES THAT ARE FREE OF CHARGE FOR YOUTH AGED 10 TO 16, AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOMELESSNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, THEIR PRIMARY SERVICE AREAS IN JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE SERVICES FOR 65, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THIS YEAR, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,620.
THIS ONE YOU'RE A FAMILIAR WITH FROM PAST YEARS, THE COLONIAL COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES.
THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES COURTROOM AND COMMUNITY ADVOCACY FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE VICTIMS OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT, AND OUR COMMUNITY LAST YEAR, THEY PROVIDED SUPPORT FOR 16 CHILDREN IN YOUR COUNTY.
COLONIAL CASA SERVES JAMES CITY COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY WILLIAMSBURG, AND
WE RECOMMENDED LESS THAN FULL FUNDING AT $1,900.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES LIFE SKILLS, TRAINING, VOCATIONAL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES TO YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT HAVE SUFFERED BRAIN INJURY.
UH, THE GROUP HAS A FAIRLY LARGE SERVICE AREA THAT EXTENDS ACROSS THE PENINSULA AND THE GLOUCESTER AND ISLE OF WIGHT.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING GRANTS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES BECAUSE OF THE RELATIVELY LOW NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE, ARE SUPPORTING IN YOUR COUNTY.
WE HAVEN'T RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING, BUT WE STILL ALLOCATED $1,600, UH, TO THIS GROUP.
NEXT IS THE HISTORIC VIRGINIA LAND CONSERVANCY.
UH, THIS ALSO IS A NEW APPLICANT FOR THIS YEAR, AND IT'S SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN THE, UH, THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE ON HERE.
THIS ORGANIZATION WORKS TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE SIGNIFICANT, UH, SCENIC AGRICULTURE AND HISTORIC LANDS ALONG THE JAMES YORKE AND RAPPAHANNOCK RIVERS.
THEY LIST THE NUMBER OF COUNTY RESIDENTS SERVED AS ESSENTIALLY THE WHOLE POPULATION, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE COUNTY CAN GO AND VISIT THE LANDS AND ENJOY THEM.
UM, WE RECOMMENDED AN ALLOCATION TO THIS GROUP OF $1,100.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES HOSPICE SUPPORT AND END OF LIFE CARE, UH, TO THE TERMINALLY ILL.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE BEREAVEMENT SERVICES AND RESPITE SUPPORT FOR CAREGIVERS.
THIS YEAR, THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT TO 175 RESIDENTS OF YOUR COUNTY, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREAS IN YOUR COUNTY, JAMES CITY COUNTY IN WILLIAMSBURG, BUT THEY OFTEN PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE AS FAR AWAY AS GLOUCESTER AND SURRY COUNTY.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SECURING FUNDS FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER SOURCES.
AND THAT SPEAKS VERY WELL TO THE QUALITY OF THEIR PROGRAM.
AND WE RECOMMENDED PROVIDING $3,210 TO THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
NEXT IS THE NATASHA HOUSE, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET ON ROUTE 17.
AND THIS ORGANIZATION IS LOCATED IN YOUR COUNTY AND PROVIDES TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SKILLS, TRAINING, TUTORING, UH, TUTORING, AND COUNSELING TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
UH, THEIR SERVICE AREA INCLUDES MOST OF THE PENINSULA, BUT THE BULK OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THEIR PROGRAM ARE FROM HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS.
UH, THE FUNDING THEY'RE REQUESTED THIS YEAR IS LARGELY TO SUPPORT THEIR SEAT TO TABLE, WHICH PRODUCES ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS TO SUPPORT THEIR SERVICES.
AND THIS YEAR WE'RE RECOMMENDING $6,120.
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AND THIS GROUP IS THE TRANSITIONS FAMILY VIOLENCE SERVICES.AS THE NAME SUGGESTS THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES EMERGENCY SHELTER, UH, HOTLINE SUPPORT, AND ADVOCACY TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THEIR SERVICE AREA THAT COVERS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA, BUT THE BULK OF THEIR SERVICES GO TO THE RESIDENTS OF HAMPTON AND NEWPORT NEWS OF THE THREE SHELTERS THAT ARE INCLUDED THIS YEAR.
TRANSITIONS HAS BEEN THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND SECURING SUPPORT FROM SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND FROM OTHER DONORS, WHICH AGAIN, SPEAKS VERY WELL TO THE QUALITY OF THE PROGRAM THEY PROVIDE.
AND AGAIN, TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENT FUNDING ACROSS THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE THIS SERVICE IN NEW YORK COUNTY, WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,105.
AND THIS ONE, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ME, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ORGANIZATIONS, UH, THAT WE, THAT WE DEAL WITH, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, WHEN THERE'S TIMES OF CRISIS LIKE WE'RE IN NOW, BECAUSE THESE GUYS HAVE REALLY DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB, UH, AND TAKING CARE OF OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
WHO'VE BEEN PUT IN A POOR SPOT BY THE CORONA VIRUS.
AND IN, IN PAST RECENT YEARS, UH, BY WORK STOPPAGES AND THE GOVERNMENT, UH, THE FOOD BANK PROVIDES A CENTRALIZED REPOSITORY FOR A DISTRIBUTED FOOD TO NEEDY INDIVIDUALS ON THE PENINSULA.
THEY WORK WITH LOCAL CHURCHES AND CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO SET UP DISTRIBUTION POINTS, UH, WHERE FOOD CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE, UH, WHO NEED IT BY THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW BEST WHO NEEDS IT.
THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA AND PROVIDE MEALS AND SUPPORT TO 4,893 RESIDENTS IN YOUR COUNTY DURING THE PANDEMIC.
THE DEMAND FOR THEIR SERVICES IS EVEN GREATER, AND THEY EXPECT THE NEED TO INCREASE EVEN MORE IN THE COMING YEAR, AS WE TRY TO RETURN TO NORMALCY.
AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR $4,590, BUT IF YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION OF THEIR REQUEST FOR POTBELLY, NO WILLIAMSBURG, FAITH IN ACTION.
AND THIS GROUP ALSO SUPPORTS INDEPENDENT LIVING BY PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, VISITS, WELL CHECKS AND HELP WITH CHORES AND DAILY TASKS, TWO 50 YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREAS, WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS IN THE BROOKLYN DISTRICT.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION IS WELL SUPPORTED THROUGH COMMUNITY DONATIONS AND GRANTS, AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR THIS GROUP AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,820.
AND THIS ONE IS THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA MEALS ON WHEELS.
THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM IN YOUR COUNTY AND WILLIAMSBURG ARE PROGRAMS THAT FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES.
THEY FIRST PROVIDE HOT MEAL DELIVERY TO THE SICK AND ELDERLY, BUT ON EQUAL IMPORTANCE THOUGH, THEY SUPPORT INDEPENDENT LIVING BY PROVIDING A DAILY CHECK-IN FOR PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE LIVING ALONE, UH, THEIR OFFICIAL SERVICE AREAS, WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY COUNTY, BUT THEY ALSO PROVIDE SERVICE TO 125, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS IN THE BRUTON DISTRICT, UH, WE'VE RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT THEY RECEIVE $2,420 IN FUNDING THIS YEAR.
AND FINALLY WE HAVE THE, YOUR COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS AND LIKE THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA MEALS ON WHEELS.
UH, YOUR COUNTY MEALS ON WHEELS PROVIDES HOT MEALS TO RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING THEIR SERVICE AREAS, EXCLUSIVELY YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS.
AND THEY SUPPORT 510 INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,250 TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
SO IF I'M LOOKING AT YOUR SLIDE CORRECTLY, THEN WE'RE ONLY PROVIDING A SLIVER OF THE, UM, REVENUE THEY NEED FOR, UH, TO SUPPORT, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTING.
THE, THE PIE CHART THERE, ACTUALLY THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, THEY, SO THAT THAT'S SORT OF A DIFFICULT PIE CHART TO LOOK AT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TWO COLORS.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BLUE, WHICH REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY THAT ARE SERVED AND RED, WHICH REPRESENTS THE OTHER PEOPLE.
SINCE THESE GUYS ONLY SERVE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY, THE PIE CHART IS TOTALLY BLUE.
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HAS A STRIKE THERE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE IN REALITY, UH, BASED ON THE FUNDING SOURCES CHART TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, UM, WE PROVIDE 5,200 LAST YEAR OR REQUESTED THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROVIDING 5,000, 250 OTHER LOCALITIES ALSO PROVIDE $9,460.AND THEN OTHER SOURCES PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 22,460, UM, AND AIR.
SO THEY'RE SERVING 510 RESIDENTS.
YEAH, THIS, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT, I THINK NEXT YEAR, I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT LITTLE LINE OUT.
SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION BECAUSE THEY JUST, THE ONLY THEY SUPPORT ARE YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS, DO THEY MAINTAIN A, DO THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST? UM, SO, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY EXTEND THAT QUESTION TO THEM.
SO FINALLY, UH, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS ALL ORGANIZATIONS IS $40,000.
IN MOST CASES, WE PROBABLY ENSURE THAT GROUPS WITH SIMILAR ACTIVITIES HAVE RECEIVED SIMILAR FUNDING, BUT THERE IS SOME VARIATION AND THAT'S BASED ON THEIR SERVICE AREA AND THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTED.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS ALWAYS.
YOU DO SUCH A SUPER JOB ON THIS.
I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO PUSH IT OUT, SUCH A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY WHEN YOU KNOW, WHAT WE REALLY COULD AFFORD TO DO MORE, BUT I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING WHAT THEY DO.
OUR PLEASURE, MR. ZAREMBA, JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
UH, WELL, UH, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE IS YOUR INPUT TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR, UM, HEADS UP AS WE GO THROUGH THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY AND THAT $40,000 MAY OR MAY NOT AT THIS POINT IN ANY EVENT, UH, BEFORE COMING, CORRECT.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE ONLY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, IN PAST YEARS, UH, THE COUNTY HAS, IN SOME CASES, IF THERE WAS A VERY WORTHY ORGANIZATION, THEY'VE INCREASED THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THEM.
UH, TYPICALLY, UH, THE COUNTY WILL TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US, UH, TO, UH, ALLOCATE.
AND, AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT THEY TYPICALLY HAVE SET ASIDE.
OF COURSE, THAT IS ALWAYS, UH, SUBJECT TO THEM.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WALKTHROUGH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS.
UM, HOW DO YOU, HOW DOES YOUR GROUP DETERMINE HOW MUCH A GIVEN ORGANIZATION THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND FUNDING FOR? ALL RIGHT.
SO EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, SO WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS FROM THEM AND THE APPLICATIONS, UH, IN THE APPLICATION FORMS, THEY OUTLINED HOW MUCH MONEY THEY RECEIVED FROM OTHER LOCALITIES, UH, WHAT THEIR EXPENDITURES ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY SPEND ON THE PROGRAM.
UH, SO THE, THE COUNTY'S, UH, FORM ASKS SOME APPARENTLY SIMPLE SET OF QUESTIONS.
THEY ALSO PROVIDE, UM, EXPENSE AND INCOME REPORTS.
IN ADDITION, THOUGH, SINCE THEY'RE ALL REQUIRED TO BE FIVE OH ONE C3 NON-PROFIT CORPORATIONS, UH, THEY HAVE TO FILE THEIR FORM.
SO ANY OF US THAT WANT TO CAN GO THERE AND WE CAN LOOK AT WHERE THEIR MONEY HAS GONE AS REPORTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, FOR THE PAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US ON HERE.
AND A LOT OF CASES, UH, IN, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE REALLY HAD THE CREAM OF THE CROP AS FAR AS APPLICANTS GO WHEN THIS ORGANIZATION, OR WHEN THIS COMMITTEE FIRST STARTED, WE HAD A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE REJECTED OUTRIGHT, UH, BECAUSE THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDED AND THE AMOUNT THAT THEY COST TO DO THE SERVICE WERE INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS, UH, A GOOD ECONOMIC VALUE FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, AT THIS POINT, THOSE THAT HAVE LASTED ARE REALLY TRULY EXCELLENT PROGRAMS. SO EACH ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WILL GO THROUGH AND THEY'LL READ, UH, THE APPLICATION INDIVIDUALLY.
THEY LOOK THROUGH IT AND THEY DECIDE BASED ON THEIR PERSONAL OPINION, WHAT THEY BELIEVE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OUT OF THAT 40,000 TO PROVIDE ALL OF US, DO THAT ALONE.
THEN WE COME TOGETHER AND WE PUT ALL OF THAT ON A SLIDE, AND IF EVERYBODY'S ALLOCATED PROPERLY AND ALL OVER THEIRS IS ADDED UP TO 40,000.
WHEN YOU AVERAGE IT, IT COMES UP WITH A NUMBER THAT, UH, THAT REPRESENTS THE WILL OF THE GROUP.
UM, AND IN SOME CASES WE ADJUSTED A SMALL AMOUNT HERE OR THERE USUALLY THAT'S ONLY
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TO ROUND UP TO A $0 OR TWO, A $5, UH, BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW IT'S DECIDED.SO, SO BASED UPON EXPERIENCE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, UH, WORK WORKING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS IS HOW THE INDIVIDUAL DECIDE HOW MUCH TO GIVE $1,900 FOR ONE $2,200 TO ANOTHER.
IS THERE A LOWER THRESHOLD THAT YOU WON'T GO BELOW COST YEARS? YOU'LL SAY PERHAPS THAT IF YOU CAN'T GIVE ANY MORE MONEY THAN THAT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE HELPFUL TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT MONEY IS BEST SPENT ELSEWHERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY GUIDELINES FOR THAT? UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC GUIDANCE FOR THAT.
UH, I THINK THE LOWEST AMOUNT THAT WE'VE EVER GIVEN WITH SOMETHING TO THE TUNE OF $400, BUT IT WAS ON A REQUEST FOR $500, UH, FROM THE, UH, YOUR COUNTY FOUR H UM, SO YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A BOTTOM, UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A TYPICAL FOR US TO GIVE LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO AN ORGANIZATION.
AND USUALLY THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT REQUIRED TO PUT IN AN APPLICATION.
UH, IT'S NOT WORTH IT FOR THEM TO ASK FOR LESS THAN THAT.
LOOKS LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING TO 14 ORGANIZATIONS, HOW MANY APPLICANTS APPLICATIONS DID YOU GET FOR THIS YEAR? THESE ARE ALL THE APPLICANTS ISSUE.
WE SAID THEY WILL TAKE YOUR EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WALKED AND LOOKING AT THE REQUESTS THAT, UM, THAT THEY'VE COME IN FROM LIKE THE PENINSULA FOOD BANK.
UM, AND I, AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE YOU HIGHLIGHTED.
IF WE HAD EXTRA MONEY, WE COULD PUT ON THAT.
UM, DO, DO THEY TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST BASED UPON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO WORK WITH? THEY DIDN'T THIS YEAR, BUT THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.
UH, AND I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UH, AND, AND DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS ABLE TO DO, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY, FOR SOME REASON BELIEVE THAT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY GET IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ASKED FOR.
AND IF THEY ASK FOR THE MOON, THEY'LL GET MUCH MORE THAN IF THEY JUST ASKED FOR WHAT THEY NEEDED.
UM, AND THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING THIS, UH, WE, WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE THAT.
AND THERE WERE, WE CAME UP WITH FORMULAS THAT WE WORKED ON TO TRY TO, TO BALANCE SOME THINGS OUT BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE.
AND THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY LIKES TO SEE THE SERVICE AREA, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THEY'RE RAISING FROM OTHER PLACES AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS, OR HOW MUCH, UH, EFFORT IS SPENT IN THE COUNTY.
UM, SO THE FOOD BANK, WHEN I SPOKE, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN, UM, PROBABLY I THINK SEVEN YEARS AGO, THEY WERE ASKING FOR A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER NUMBER.
I THINK THEY WERE ASKING FOR $20,000 IN THE FIRST APPLICATION.
AND AT THAT POINT WE HAD $30,000 TO DEAL WITH.
AND WE ALSO WERE, UH, RECOMMENDING SUPPORT FOR THE LACKEY FREE CLINIC, WHICH WAS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB AND REALLY NEEDED THE SUPPORT.
SO WE JUST HAD TO, TO SAY THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATED THE JOB THEY WERE DOING, UH, BUT WE JUST COULDN'T PROVIDE THEM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY NEEDED WITHOUT HURTING THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE, HAVE PLACED THEIR ASS AT A PROPER LEVEL, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY'S ALLOCATING FOR ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, AND, AND, UH, AND LET'S SAY 2019, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO WORK WITH? DO YOU REMEMBER? UH, IT'S $40,000 AGAIN LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, SO 2020 IS 40,000 AND NOW IT'S 40,000.
UM, IT KIND OF STRIKES ME AS, UM, IT'S INTERESTING THAT IN A YEAR WITHOUT THE, UH, COVID CRISIS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT IS BROUGHT IN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT AND, UM, AND THEN THE ISSUES OF PEOPLE NEED FOOD AND WHATNOT THAT WE PROVIDE ESENTIALLY DO NOT MUCH VARIATION IN THE, UM, UH, IN THE, IN THE ALLOTMENTS OF KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED $40,000 REGARDLESS OF THE PANDEMIC OR NO PANDEMIC.
UM, AND YET THERE'S A GREATER NEED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UM, I THINK THE DISTRIBUTION, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR, UM, AMONG ACROSS THIS BAND OF, UH, OF ORGANIZATIONS, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT, WE HAVE A DEVIATED MUCH, NO, WE HAVE ALL OF THAT.
I WOULD SAY THIS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, UH, WE HAD THE LACKEY FREE CLINIC, UH, REQUESTING FUNDING.
WE HAD THE, UH, SENIOR CENTER OF
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YORK THAT WAS REQUESTING FUNDING.UH, ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WERE ORIGINALLY IN THAT SAME BASKET OF MONEY, WHICH WAS $30,000 THEN, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY MOVED THOSE OUT OF THIS ORGANIZATION INTO THEIR OWN BUDGET LINE ITEMS. SO THOSE GUYS ARE BEING SERVICED, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, FOR THEIR NEEDS AT A DECISION LEVEL ABOVE OURS.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPROPER FOR ME TO SAY THAT YOU'VE REALLY BEEN CUTTING PEOPLE OFF BY KEEPING THE LEVEL WHERE IT IS BECAUSE MANY TIMES YOU'VE MOVED PEOPLE OUT AND THEN THE AMOUNT HAS STAYED THE SAME OR GONE UP YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH, THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES.
THE NEED IS EXTRAORDINARY NOW.
AND I WOULDN'T FAULT YOU IF YOU TOOK ADDITIONAL STEPS BECAUSE PEOPLE NEEDED, UH, OF COURSE YOU ARE THE ARBITERS AND THE, THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
UH, SO, BUT I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AT THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THE MONEY THAT YOUR COMMITTEE HAS TO WORK WITH.
THERE IS WITHIN OUR BUDGET, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND, UH, AND MAYBE NEIL COULD REFLECT A LITTLE BIT ON, UH, WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALL THAT GIFT GIVING, IF YOU WILL, WHAT IT COMES TO.
SO THE NET OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THE NEXT PART OF THE WORK SESSION WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET, SOME OF WHICH ARE FORMULAE, BUT SOME OF WHICH ARE THINGS THAT YOU ALL, UH, WITH THE STAFF SUPPORT AGREED TO MOVE OUT OF THIS BUCKET INTO SORT OF THE BOARD'S BUCKET.
SO, SO TO WALT ACRES POINT, UH, FOR ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, THE, THE ALLOCATION GUIDANCE FOR THIS COMMITTEE WAS 30,000.
AND YOU HAD A LACKEY FREE CLINIC TO COVER WITHIN THAT.
NOW THE ALLOCATION IS 40,000 AND, AND HALF OF THAT WHOLE BUCKET WAS TAKEN OUT AND WE PAY FOR THAT ELSEWHERE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THESE AGENCIES HAS BASICALLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AND IF IT'S THE SUPERVISORS WHO'VE BEEN ON HERE FOR A WHILE, WILL REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY, IF YOU WILL, WHEN THE BUDGET FOR GIVING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN IT IS.
AND WE ACTUALLY REDUCED IT EVERY YEAR BY $75,000 A POP UNTIL WE GOT IT DOWN, WHAT WE CAN DO NOW.
I MEAN, IF I RECALL, WELL, IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS AND BITS AND PIECES.
SO WE'VE TAKEN, THIS IS A PILE OF MONEY, IF YOU WILL.
THERE'S $40,000 IN THIS ORGAN IS THIS PART OF THE GROUP IS DESIGNED THAT WE WERE SPENDING AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME ARGUING OVER 500 BUCKS HERE, 500 BUCKS THERE WHEN WE ENDED UP WITH, YOU KNOW, $140 MILLION BUDGET TO DEAL WITH.
SO I APPRECIATE WALT, UH, AND, UH, NEIL, THE EFFORT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO TRYING TO, TRYING TO HELP ORGANIZE THIS STUFF INTO A REASONABLE, UH, MANNER.
WE DO OUR PART ON THE PENINSULA, UM, YOU KNOW, SHORT COUNTY CITIZENS.
AKERS, W ONE QUICK QUESTION I NOTICED, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL AND METHODICAL APPROACH TO THIS.
BUT NOTICE WHEN YOU WERE GIVING THE MOUSE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED, UH, IT WAS ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FIVE.
UM, IT WAS ODD NUMBERS AT THE END, INSTEAD OF JUST SOME ZEROS, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON, UH, WAS THERE ANY RHYME OR REASON TO THE ODD NUMBERS AT THE END OF SOME OF THESE REQUESTS? NO, IT'S, IT'S JUST, WHEN YOU, WHEN, WHEN ONE PERSON, UH, THAT'S FROM DISTRICT FOUR, RECOMMENDS GIVING $2,000 TO AN ORGANIZATION AND ANOTHER FROM DISTRICT ONE RECOMMENDS 1000, YOU ENDED UP WITH 1500, UH, AND SOME PEOPLE, UM, SOME PEOPLE USE A REAL SCALPEL, UH, WHEN THEY'RE DIVIDING THIS UP AND THEY MAY ACTUALLY BE USING A SPREADSHEET WHERE THEY PUT IN THEIR OWN IDEAS FOR WHAT SOMETHING'S WORTH, AND THEY COME UP WITH NUMBERS, UH, THAT AREN'T ROUND NUMBERS.
NOW IN YEARS PAST, WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT, THAT WOULD NOT PUT AN ALLOCATION IN THAT WASN'T FOR AROUND THOUSAND DOLLARS OR AROUND $2,000, UH, FOR, FOR EACH THING.
BUT AT ANY RATE, WHEN YOU BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND YOUR AVERAGE OF THOSE VALUES, WHAT IT COMES UP WITH IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I'D SAY THAT THAT'S AN ARTIFACT OF THAT REALLY SHOWS THE FAIRNESS AND EVEN HANDEDNESS OF THE APPROACH, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S IDEA
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ALL, ALL FIVE OF THE DISTRICTS, UH, THEIR IDEAS ARE FULLY REPRESENTED, UH, IN THOSE VALUES.IT SHOWS TO ME THAT YOU TOOK A LOT OF TIME, UH, RIGHT DOWN TO THE LAST, UH, LAST DECIMAL PLACE, UH, AND PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT, UH, NOT JUST ZERO, ZERO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SAID, OKAY, AND $5.
SO, UH, APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK.
UH, ALL YOUR COMMITTEE DID, ESPECIALLY YOURSELF MAKING THIS COME TOGETHER AND, UH, GIVING THE COMMUNITY, UH, SERVICE GRANTS, ADVISORY BOARD, A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER.
HOPE TO SEE YOU GUYS ALL IN PERSON NEXT TIME WITH ME TOO, WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
I'M GOING TO CALL ON A FINANCE DIRECTOR, OWENS DIRECTOR OWENS.
UM, LIKE, UM, MR. MORGAN HAD SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, THIS IS THE OTHER PART OF THE BUDGET THAT RELATES TO THE REGIONAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UM, THAT IS IN THE 22 BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE DO HAVE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH WE CONTRIBUTE TO BECAUSE OF, OF REGIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND AGREEMENTS.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS COMMITTEE HAD THAT ARE DISCRETIONARY IN NATURE FOR THOSE DISCRETIONARY CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE DO SEND OUT, UM, AN APPLICATION PACKAGE EACH YEAR AND ASSET THE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE AND THE BENEFIT IT HAS, UM, ON THE YORK COUNTY RESIDENTS TO INCLUDE THEIR OUTCOMES AND FINDING INFORMATION THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY THEIR REQUESTS FROM YOUR COUNTY, BUT THEIR REQUESTS FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
MOST OF ALL, THE NONDISCRETIONARY CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT, UM, ARE ORGANIZATIONS IN WHICH WORK COUNTY HAS REPRESENTATION ON.
UM, SO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS OUR PROPORTIONAL SHARE BASED ON THEIR PROPOSED OR ADOPTED BUDGET FROM THAT ORGANIZATIONS BOARD.
SO WITH EVERY EVERYTHING WE DO BUDGET, WE DO START WITH THE BOARD'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD, UM, THAT ADHERES TO THESE PRIORITIES.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK SLIDE OF, OF ALL THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, PUBLIC SAFETY BEING THE LARGEST LARGEST ON IT.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST A SLIDE TO SHOW YOU IN GRAPHICAL FORM AND CHART FORM AS TO WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND IS THE LARGEST, UM, FUNDING WE HAVE TONIGHT.
THESE ORGANIZATIONS ON THIS SLOT, ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS IN WHICH WE DO HAVE A REP REPRESENTATION ON THEIR BOARD OR, UM, IN OUR CONTRACTUAL, OR WE HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE OVERALL, THIS CATEGORY, UM, DID GO DOWN JUST A TAD.
SO THE NEXT CATEGORY IS HEALTH WELFARE AND HUMAN SERVICES.
AND THIS, UM, THIS IS ONE, I THINK NEIL IS GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFICS ON THIS ONE.
SO AS YOU GUYS, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, IT'S, IT'S A MISHMASH OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS.
SOME OF THEM ARE SORT OF A, THIS IS WHAT'S OUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF A REGIONAL AGENCY AND, YOU KNOW, BY FORMULA, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY.
UH, BUT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY SORT OF GROUPED ALL OF THESE THINGS IN ONE PART OF A WORK SESSION.
AND I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE MAYBE CHANGED, OR MAYBE AT LEAST FROM MY VANTAGE POINT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM OR SOMETHING YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.
AND THIS PAGE HAS A FEW OF THOSE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION.
UH, THE FIRST ONE RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ASKED FOR BASICALLY A, UM, A MINI BUS, UH, FOR THEIR PROGRAM.
AND OF COURSE, LAST YEAR, UM, DURING THE COVID CRISIS, UH, IT WAS NOT EVEN CONSIDERED.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT, UH, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AS PART OF OUR PROCESS.
THEY THOUGHT THAT, UM, THE PREVIOUS YEAR REQUESTS WOULD CARRY OVER AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SPEAKING, CANDIDLY, WE GO, WE DON'T GO AROUND ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY FORGOT TO ASK FOR MONEY.
UM, SO, UH, VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS AFTER THE BUDGET WENT TO PRINT, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. DIGS AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB CONTACTED US AND DID MAKE THIS REQUEST.
SO I KNOW IT IS THE GROUP THAT THIS BOARD
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HAS HISTORICALLY SUPPORTED.OF COURSE, THEY RUN A VERY IMPRESSIVE OPERATION UP AT, UM, YOU KNOW, YORKTOWN, MIDDLE, UM, WHICH WE HELPED WITH YEARS AGO.
BUT ANYWAY, IT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET.
UH, BUT I DID PROMISE MR. DIGGS, I WOULD BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THE REQUEST IS 60,000.
SO THEY CAN, UH, ENHANCE THEIR ABILITY TO BRING PARTICIPANTS TO THE PROGRAM, UH, THAT CAN'T OTHERWISE GET TO THE FACILITY.
SO THAT WAS ONE I WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION.
ANOTHER ONE I WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION IS CDR, UH, CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES.
UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM, SEPARATE FROM THIS.
WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, UM, WHERE THEY PROVIDE PRE HEADSTART, UM, AT THE GRIFFIN YATES CENTER.
UH, THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY REQUEST.
AND, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, UM, THE PROPORTION OF THEIR SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING IN YOUR COUNTY RELATIVE TO WILLIAMSBURG AND JAMES CITY HAS BEEN GOING DOWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND, UM, WE CONTRIBUTE MORE PER CAPITA THAN OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO WE GET LESS AND WE CONTRIBUTE MORE.
AND SO THIS IS JUST FLAT OUT MY RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO TRIM THAT CONTRIBUTION BACK.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENT.
UM, ANOTHER ONE I WANTED TO MENTION, WHICH IS VERY SMALL, BUT IT'S NEW IS THE COLONIAL SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT.
UM, IT'S AN INTERESTING ENTITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A STATE SPONSORED ENTITY, WHICH YOUR COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS TWO ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ON.
AND, UH, THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THAT ORGANIZATION IN RURAL AREAS WAS BASICALLY TO HELP FARMERS AVOID EROSION CONTROL AND THEIR AREA HAS SORT OF GROWN INTO MORE SUBURBAN AREAS LIKE YOUR COUNTY.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE STARTED A PROGRAM THAT BASICALLY ASSIST, UH, WATERFRONT HOMEOWNERS WITH GIVING THEM ADVICE ON EROSION CONTROL AND SEA LEVEL RISE TYPE ISSUES.
WE ALSO TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS AND, UM, PARTLY BECAUSE WE'VE JUST LOST A COUPLE OF OUR SENIOR PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERS THAT HAD SOME SPECIALTY IN THIS AREA.
WE GIVE THEM A, TRY A LITTLE PILOT PROGRAM TO SEE IF THEY CAN ASSIST SOME OF OUR CITIZENS.
SO THAT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SMALL DOLLAR FIGURE, IT'S A NEW THING.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE I, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REQUIRES SOME COMMENT IS, UH, THE Y YMCA.
NOW THE WILKINSON Y YMCA, THE ONE UP BY SENTARA HOSPITAL IS STILL UNDER A TEN-YEAR FORMULA THAT WE AGREED TO.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT ONE.
UH, BUT THE VICTORY Y WHICH WE HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD A, UM, A CONTRIBUTION SCHEDULE WITH, AND THAT LAPSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THEY ARE, UH, WORKING ON A RENOVATION AND EXPANSION PROJECT.
AND ORIGINALLY THEY'D HOPED TO BE FURTHER ALONG.
THEY HAD HOPED TO COME TO YOU ALL WITH A VERY SPECIFIC PROPOSAL FOR A MULTI-YEAR CONTRIBUTION, AND, UH, THEY'VE HAD TO CHANGE THEIR PLANS SOME, SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S FOR CERTAIN RIGHT NOW IS SOME INTERNAL RENOVATIONS.
THEY HOPE TO COME TO THE BOARD SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR WITH THE REVISED LONG-TERM PLAN.
IT IS KIND OF THE FLAGSHIP Y UM, IN, WITHIN THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT OF YMCAS.
AND SO WHAT THIS RECOMMENDS IS A ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION OF 50 FOR THE RENOVATIONS THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO, UH, WITH NO PROMISE OF WHAT WE WOULD DO OTHERWISE, BUT FULL TRANSPARENCY.
I WOULD EXPECT YOU ALL TO HEAR FROM THEM SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR, UH, WITH A PROPOSAL FOR A MULTI-YEAR ARRANGEMENT, SOMETHING ANALOGOUS TO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE AT WILKINSON.
SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR ON THIS PAGE THAT I WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION.
THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DELIBERATE ON A LOAN
UH, NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB NEEDS $60,000 AND WE'VE TRADITIONALLY SUPPORTED THEM.
UM, WE, UH, LAST SUPPORTED THEM IN FYI 2020 THAT YOU SEE, THAT WAS THE LAST YEAR OF A CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR FACILITY.
THEY BUILT AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IN, UM,
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IN 21, UH, THEY HAD A, THIS REQUEST FOR A MINI BUS, UH, WHICH WHEN WE CUT EVERYTHING BY 5%, DIDN'T MAKE IT.BUT YES, GOING BACK IN TIME, THERE WAS A CONTRIBUTION TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AS WELL AS THE YMCA INCLUDED FOR ONE.
NOW, LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT OPEN TO EVERYBODY FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I KNOW THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, UH, DO GREAT THINGS AS WELL AS THE LYME CA UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I KNEW, I DO KNOW THAT THE YMCA UP IN GLOUCESTER, I BELIEVE OUR, I WANT TO SAY, UH, GLOUCESTER JUST SHUT DOWN.
UH, SO THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE MORE, IT WAS ONE OF THEIR KIND OF SATELLITE OPERATIONS HAD THIS, HAD TO SHUT DOWN.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THIS PENINSULA YMCA EXTENDS.
I MEAN, UP FURTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, WAY UP IN THE MATTHEWS.
UH, SO THEY, THEY GOT SEVERAL YMCAS UP THERE, BUT THE, THE ONE IN THE VICTORY, WHY IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU PUT ONE LIKE THAT IN YOUR COUNTY, AND YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN YOU APPROVED IT BACK IN 20 YEARS AGO, OVER 20 YEARS AGO, IT'S GOT AN 18,000 MEMBERSHIP RANGES FROM 15, 18,000 MEMBERS.
AND, UH, AND A LOT OF THERE, A LOT OF THERE ARE, THERE'S A GROUP OF AMOUNT OF MONEY GOES, UH, IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO, NOT MONEY, BUT THE MEMBERSHIP THEY, THAT THE Y ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZES.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, UH, CHAD, THE, THE, THE, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, JUST KIND OF A QUIETER, UH, LEVEL OF, OF INVOLVEMENT, BUT MAN, I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY THEY DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE CHILDREN, GREAT THINGS FOR THE CHILDREN DOWN THERE.
AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, ON THE PENINSULA ALL THE WAY AROUND.
AND THE WHY FOR RIGHT NOW HAS GOT A PROGRAM AND FULL CLOSURE.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF MANAGERS, THE, UM, IS TRYING TO, UM, A SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT ALL YOUR COUNTY, SECOND GRADERS LEARN TO SWIM.
AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS WORKING WITH SCHOOL BOARD ON THAT NOW TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION STUFF.
SO TWO PROGRAMS THAT GREATLY AFFECT, UM, PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY ARE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE YMCAS AT BOTH.
SOMETHING, WHAT THE ENROLLMENT IS AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MANY CHILDREN ATTEND? UM, BRIAN FULLER IS, UM, HOW'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HAL AND HAS SOME INFORMATION, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S PREPARED TO COMMENT OR THERESA.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR PHONE OUT ON YOUR FINGERTIPS.
MY SENSE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY STRONG PROGRAM.
BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? THERE HE IS, RIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS WITH ME.
I CAN GET THIS FOR YOU, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE A VERY ROBUST AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM AND REALLY STEPPED UP DURING COVID TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE, UH, FOR THE FAMILIES IN THAT AREA WHERE THEIR PARENTS WERE WORKING WHILE SCHOOLS WERE CLOSED AND DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS WITH THE YOUTH IN THAT AREA.
WELL, THEY, WELL, THEY HAVE, THEY REALLY HAVE BEEN, AND I WOULD SUPPORT GIVING THEM THE MONEY THIS YEAR, EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR IT, YOU'RE DOING IT REGARDLESS.
AND AS FAR AS THE Y IS CONCERNED, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT WHEN IT FIRST STARTED AND I AM WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS IS PHENOMENAL.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
YOU GOT REAL IN THE ROOM, THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES, EXCUSE ME, 20 OBEY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AT $940,000 IS HALF OF THIS BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, AND THEY GROWN BY $115,000 OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
CAN YOU SPEAK SOMETHING TO THAT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
IT'S A COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS THE COMMUNITY SERVICE BOARD, THE STATE DESIGNATED MENTAL HEALTH AGENCY FOR YOUR COUNTY, AND ALSO FOR, UH, COSEN AND JAMES CITY AND WILLIAMSBURG.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, THEIR FISCAL AGENT.
UM, THEY'RE IN OUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, THEY'RE ALMOST A, YOU KNOW, A QUASI AGENCY OF, OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
SO WHENEVER, UM, UH, FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, HAS A, SOMEONE IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, IT'S THE, UM, IT'S, IT'S COLONIAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THAT DEALS WITH IT.
IF A CITIZEN NEEDS A REFERRAL REFERRAL FOR MENTAL HEALTH, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO.
THEY RUN A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS. SO, UM, AND, AND THERESA MIGHT
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BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT ON THIS.AND I THINK, UM, UM, AND, AND BRIAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO COMMENT AS WELL.
THERE IS AN, A MAJOR PART OF THE BASE OF THIS NUMBER, STEPHEN, THAT WE WOULD BE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO PROVIDE, BUT WE'RE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD.
AND SO THERE'S SOME INCREMENT OF THIS, THAT, THAT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT LAST YEAR, UM, WE, UH, ADOPTED A BUDGET, UM, AT 900,000 AND, UH, THAT WAS REALLY LESS THAN WHAT THEY REQUESTED BECAUSE THEY TOOK THE 5% CUT ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET.
SO THIS WAS REALLY RESTORING THE AMOUNT THAT THEY REQUESTED LAST YEAR.
IT IS, IS THAT THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR BUDGET THEY GET FROM ELSEWHERE? YEAH.
THEY GET FUNDING FROM THE OTHER LOCALITIES AND FROM THE STATE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE HEALTH DISTRICT AND THEN THEY ALSO CHARGE FEES AS WELL.
THEY'VE GOT A $17.9 MILLION BUDGET.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS THEY SERVE THEM? UM, THEY ARE PROJECTING ABOUT A THOUSAND, YOUR COUNTY RESIDENTS FOR 22.
WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO WHAT IS JUST THE ORGANIZATION UPON CAPITOL LANDING ROAD.
THEY ARE, THEY HAVE LOCATIONS, UH, IN, IN VARIOUS PLACES.
WELL, THEY HAVE SOME FACILITIES, UH, RIGHT OFF MERRIMACK TRAIL.
UM, THEY HAVE SOME FACILITIES IN WILLIAMSBURG AND THEY ALSO HAVE A FACILITY, UH, DOWN BY THE POQUOSON RIVER OFF ROUTE 17.
WELL, I'M GOING TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU THAT DAVE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE LIGHT, RIGHT? BECAUSE LATELY I HAVE HAD INCREDIBLY BAD, BAD RESPONSE BY THAT ORGANIZATION.
UH, I BROUGHT A LADY WHO WAS LIVING IN HER CAR FOR 15 YEARS UP ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO THE OTHER.
SHE WAS INCARCERATED UP IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA BECAUSE OF HER MENTAL ISSUES.
I, SHE TRIED TO HAVE HER SELF ADMITTED FOR EVALUATION.
I WANTED MAKING SURE SHE INTERACTED WITH EVERY MENTAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION ON THE PENINSULA AND NOT ONE OF THEM RESPONDED IN A POSITIVE WAY.
AND I'VE TALKED TO DAVID NAUSEA ABOUT THAT.
AND HE HAD NO, NO REAL POSITIVE RESPONSE.
SO I'M FRANKLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SORT OF SERVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL ISSUES THOUGH SAID, OKAY, IT'S NOT ALL FLOWERS.
AND, UH, YOU GOT TO EXPERIENCE IT YOURSELF TO FIND THE ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR OWENS.
SO OUR NEXT CATEGORY IS EDUCATION AND INCLUDED IN THIS IS THE PENINSULA COUNTS COUNCIL FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, THOMAS NELSON, AND THE WILLIAMSBURG REGIONAL LIBRARY.
AND OVERALL THIS, UM, THIS CATEGORY HAS INCREASED.
UM, AND IT'S MOSTLY DUE TO OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE AT THE LIBRARY.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I STOP YOU THERE FOR A SECOND, PLEASE? UH, LET ME GO BACK TO WALT NOW.
OBSERVATION WAS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, AND IF THE ORGANIZATION WERE PROVIDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO IS NOT RESPONDING, UH, THEY NEED IS, THEY NEED TO ANSWER TO US TO TELL US, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT, I THINK WALT BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT AND I, FOR ONE DO NOT WANT TO JUST HEAR IT ONE HERE AND HAVE IT GO OUT THE OTHER, I WANT, I'D LIKE, I WANT AN ANSWER TO THAT.
AND IF IT'S A FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING MONEY, OKAY, THEN THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUST CONTINUE PUTTING OUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S NOT DOING WHAT WE THINK IT NEEDS TO DO.
WE ARE THE END POINT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FOLKS, UH, ON THAT PARTICULAR CASE, UH, IT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL SITUATION.
UH, WALT DID TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
I DID TALK TO DAVID CALL ABOUT IT.
UH, I GOT A FAIRLY DETAILED EXPLANATION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHAT, UM, SHE WAS SEEKING COULD NOT BE PROVIDED BY THEM.
AND IT IS NOT A TYPICAL CASE, UM, THAT THEY WOULD INVOLVE.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO SAY MORE ABOUT IT IN THIS MEETING, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW BLS IS THE POINT.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I MEAN, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF A, OF A PROBLEM.
AND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, AND I DON'T THINK THIS BOARD IS IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER ONE PARTICULAR CASE, BUT IT'S, IT'S COULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF A BIGGER
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OR LARGER PROBLEM IN RESPONSE.SO I'M NOW REALLY INTERESTED IN, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE ARE WE GETTING TO OTHER TYPES OF, UH, SERVICES.
AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST SUGARCOAT IT.
I WANTED TO, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THIS FOR TONIGHT, BUT I'D SUGGEST NEIL THAT YOU COORDINATE A GET TOGETHER WITH ME, DAVID KO AND GO OVER THE CASE BECAUSE IT'S CRITICAL THAT, YOU KNOW, I AM HERE, MY ELECTED OFFICIAL, UM, NOPE.
NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO WALK INTO MY OFFICE.
AND WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I IMMEDIATELY TURN TO THE LIKES OF THE CONE SERVICES BOARD, UH, TO OTHER OTHER PSYCHIATRIC ORGANIZATIONS ON PENSACOLA.
AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE POSITIVE.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LADY TO SEE WHAT HER ISSUES WERE.
SO LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT SET THAT MEETING UP.
I'M SURE DAVE WILL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN HIS POSITION SO THAT I CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HECK WENT WRONG.
I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD.
UM, I JUST REMEMBER BACK IN THE TIME 20 YEARS AGO, WHEN THINGS WERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WERE GETTING TIGHT FOR MONEY AND PEOPLE WORRYING ABOUT TAXES AND THINGS WERE GOING UP AND DOWN THE WEEK THAT WE STARTED REALLY HACKING, UH, THE FUNDS AND THE STATE WAS HACKING THE FUNDS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF SERVICES.
I MEAN, YOU'RE A MEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE CAME IN AND SAT DOWN AND, AND, UM, MACK WOULD TELL US ABOUT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THERE.
WE'RE GONNA LOSE PEOPLE HERE WHEN WE LOSE PEOPLE THERE.
WELL, VENTRAL, BREWSTERS COME HOME, THEIR CHICKENS COME HOME TO THE, SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SET UP THE MEETING.
AND I'M SURE, UH, MR. COE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.
I CAN SAY GENERALLY SPEAKING, TOM, WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS TRUE.
THE PUBLIC MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THE STATE ARE WOEFULLY UNDER-RESOURCED.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
THEY KEEP GETTING NEW TASKS THROWN AT THEM WITHOUT THE FUNDING TO DO IT.
UH COVID AS INCREASED THEIR WORKLOAD, MADE IT HARDER TO DO, UH, ONE EXAMPLE.
I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS CALLED, BUT IT WAS, UH, MR. ROWAN AND GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IT NOT TOO LONG AGO.
UH, THERE'S A NEW STATE MANDATE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO START PROVIDING NINE ONE, ONE RAPID RESPONSE SERVICES.
UM, WHEN THERE'S A, UH, NOW ON ONE CALL THAT, UM, UH, THE, THE CALL TAKER SUSPECTS IS, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ORIENTED AS OPPOSED TO CRIMINAL OR MEDICAL.
AND OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF THEY HAVE TO DEVISE A PROGRAM, UH, FOR THE FOUR LOCALITIES THEY SERVE.
UM, AND THERE'S A LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT, BUT THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO IT.
THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE THAT WAS MARCUS.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE WAS ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD.
SHE HAD PLENTY OF MONEY TO PAY FOR THE EVALUATION.
THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW HER TO BE LOOKED AT, WHICH IS, UH, BLOWS MY MIND.
MR. MR. MORGAN, I THINK YOU HIT THIS ON THE, UH, THE NAIL ON THE HEAD HERE.
IF WE COULD GET MR. KO TO COME IN HERE AND TALK TO US, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, VERY, UH, MR. ZAREMBA, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH SLIGHTLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME THAT, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT WISELY, BUT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE, ARE VERY BIG ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A TIME WE NEED TO BE CUTTING THEM.
UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROGRAMS AND SOME WORK, UH, MAYBE SOME MORE OVERSIGHT AND SOME MORE EXPLANATIONS FOR MR. CO DIRECTOR OWENS, PLEASE.
THE NEXT CATEGORY IS ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
AND, UM, THIS IS BASICALLY THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
THAT'S YOUR QUESTION THAT HRP SAYING, AND OTHER PROGRAMS IN HERE, EXCEPT FOR THE METROPOLITAN MEDICAL RESPONSE SYSTEM, WHICH HAS PUBLIC SAFETY ARMS OVERALL, THIS IS DOWN SLIGHTLY.
UM, THEIR BOARD HAS NOT ADOPTED THEIR BUDGET YET.
SO, UM, THIS ISN'T FINAL, BUT PAST EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT, THAT THIS DOESN'T CHANGE VERY MUCH QUICK, QUICK QUESTION, METROPOLITAN MEDICAL RESPONSE SYSTEMS. OH, YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THAT THROUGH SOME SURE.
SO, AND YOU KNOW, UH, STEVE KACZYNSKI'S IN THE WAITING ROOM AND HE COULD COME AT, UM, THERE IS A PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION, UM, SUB EFFORT, UH, WITH A COMMITTEE OF EMERGENCY MANAGERS
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AND FIRE CHIEFS FROM ALL AROUND HAMPTON ROADS, UM, THAT STAFFS THIS GROUP.AND OVER THE YEARS, THEY HAVE, UH, MAINLY ACQUIRED EQUIPMENT THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS LIKE USC.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO HAVE SOME, UM, MUTUAL AID ON A, UM, HAMPTON ROADS, WIDE REGION.
AND SO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IN YOUR COUNTY, WE HAVE A CACHE OF EQUIPMENT.
IF THERE WAS, UH, SOME TYPE OF A REALLY BAD DISASTER, UM, AND, AND DIFFERENT LOCALITIES HAVE DIFFERENT STASHES FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF DISASTERS.
AND, UM, THIS IS BASICALLY A COORDINATING FUNCTION OF THE REGION TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE CACHES ARE KEPT UP TO DATE AND MAINTAINED.
AND THERE'S A WAY FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED TO COMMUNICATE.
UH, AND IT RANGES FROM ANTHRAX ATTACK TO NUCLEAR RADIATION, TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLANE CRASHES AND THINGS, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE SUMMARY VERSION AND OH YEAH.
LET'S BRING THE CHIEF IN HERE FOR A BRIEF SYNOPSIS.
YES, IT'S, IT'S, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN ENTIRE, UH, MEDICAL RESPONSE SYSTEM FOR MAJOR INCIDENTS THAT ONE LOCALITY OR EVEN TWO OR THREE LOCALITIES WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, DIFFICULT AND CONTROLLING.
UH, JUST A SIMPLE EXAMPLE IS WHEN WE HAD THE 75 VEHICLE PILE UP ON I 64 IN DECEMBER OF 2019, UH, ONE OF THE CAPABILITIES THAT THIS SYSTEM PROVIDES IS MASS CASUALLY BUSES.
WE USE THREE OF THOSE ON THAT INCIDENT ALONE, AND THEY'RE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE REGION, AS WELL AS DISASTER SHELTER, UH, TRAILERS AND SUPPLIES, AND A STRIKE TEAM, UH, THAT WOULD RESPOND TO A MAJOR INCIDENT SHOULD OCCUR ACROSS THE HAMPTON ROADS REGION.
THANK YOU, CHIEF SIRENS CONTINUE.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK NEIL HAS SOME, SOME POINTS ON HERE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL BOTTOM LINE ON THIS ONE IS, UM, JUST A VERY SMALL, UH, DECLINE, I GUESS THE ONE THAT I WAS THOUGHT YOU ALL MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN IS THE CHAMBER SUPPORT.
AND, UM, THE, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE GAVE THE, THE, THE COUNTY CHAMBER SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, AND I THINK THAT HAS SERVED THEM WELL.
AND I THINK THEY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, JUST EVERYBODY TOOK A 5% CUT IN THE YEAR.
WE'RE IN THE PENINSULA CHAMBER IS A FAIRLY MAJOR PLAYER FOR YOUR COUNTY BUSINESSES AND PROPORTIONATELY.
OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THEM IS PRETTY SMALL.
AND, UH, THEY ASK, YOU CAN SEE FOR 10,000 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO FAR, BUT I DID RECOMMEND GIVING THEM A SMALL INCREASE AND YOU'LL RECALL A YEAR BEFORE LAST, THEY WERE A MAJOR PLAYER IN THE STATE OF THE COUNTY EVENT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CERTAINLY PREPARED TO HELP US WITH THAT AGAIN WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT ONE TO YOUR ATTENTION.
WHAT'S THE, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL COVERAGE FOR THE WILLIAMSBURG AREA? TRANSIT AUTHORITY IS JUST THE WILLIAMSBURG JAMES CITY COUNTY, UM, ALL OF DISTRICT ONE, AND IT TOUCHES A LITTLE BIT OF DISTRICT FREE.
MR. MR. SHEPHERD, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ANYTHING ON HER WRONGFUL NOW IT'S DOING HIS JOB.
I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NICE THING IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SURPRISED BY ANYTHING THAT, UH, UH, UM, THAT WE'D LIKE WE WERE WHEN THEY WERE START PULLING, TRYING TO PULL CARRIERS OUT OF HERE AND WHATNOT.
SO THIS IS OUR, UH, OUR PART IN IT.
AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME GREAT, UH, LOBBYISTS WORKING FOR US THEY'RE RIGHT UP THERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
SO YEAH, WE, WE CONTINUE TO THAT NEED THAT.
AND ADMIRAL QUIGLEY IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF, UH, AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SO OUR NEXT ONE IS ANIMAL SERVICES AND WE DO HAVE TWO PROGRAMS IN THOSE, THE REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH IS CONTRACTUAL AND THE HERITAGE HUMANE SOCIETY, WHICH IS DISCRETIONARY.
AND WE'VE RECOMMENDED THE COUNTY TO FULLY FUND THE HERITAGE HUMANE SOCIETY.
UM, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, THEY HAVE A MAJOR RENOVATION THAT, UM, AN EXPANSION THAT'S GOING ON
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AND ALSO THEY DID, DID, UM, SAY THAT THEY HADN'T INCREASED IN HORTON CASES IN THIS PAST YEAR.OUR CONTRIBUTION DOLLAR WISE, UM, IS IN LINE WITH THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT YOUR COUNTY SENDS COMPARED TO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF NUMBER OF ANIMALS SERVICED, UM, AT THE, AT THE SHELTER IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, UH, ORGANIZATION SERVES THE UPPER COUNTY FOR SURE, BUT WILLIAMSBURG AS WELL IN JAMES CITY COUNTY.
AND IN TERMS OF THE CONTRIBUTION, THE OTHER TWO JURISDICTIONS, ANTE UP A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN $30,000 THAT WE PUT IN.
SO IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION DOING A GREAT JOB, NOT KNOWN AS BIG AS THE PENINSULA DOWN ON 17, BUT, UH, THEY APPRECIATE EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE PROVIDE THEM.
UM, THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE, AND THIS IS MOSTLY, THIS IS CULTURAL IN NATURE, AND IT'S MOSTLY NORTHTOWN FOCUSED CONTRIBUTIONS.
THE OVERALL CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT WAS REQUESTED, BUT THEY'RE MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED AND
SO THIS SLIDE, I WAS JUST GOING TO KEEP THIS UP HERE FOR A MINUTE IN CASE YOU ANY OF Y'ALL HAD ANY, UM, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC ON ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I WOULD JUST COMMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT
AND SO AS YOU LOOK AT ALL NUMBER IN THE NEW NUMBER, KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT HISTORICALLY, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A PAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL APPLY A LOT OF DISCRETION TO.
SO WE JUST USED A LITTLE BIT OF JUDGMENT AND, UH, IT'S ON YOU.
I'M LOOKING AT THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT WAS THE REQUEST WAS 35.
WELL, HOW DO THEY QUANTIFY THAT? ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GET THAT NATIVE NEEDED THAT HOT, MY CHRISTMAS TREE OR SOMETHING.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THEIR APPLICATION REAL QUICK.
UM, UH, HONESTLY, TAKE YOUR TIME.
WELL MAYBE, WELL, MAYBE WHILE THERESA IS LOOKING FOR THAT TOO.
THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OTHERS.
ARE IT BACK ON SLIDE SEVEN? WE, WE, WE JUMPED PAST THAT WAS, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UH, THE WAYNESBURG LIBRARY, WHAT THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET IS.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS? YEAH, THERESA'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE QUICKER ON THAT ANSWER BECAUSE SHE'S OUR BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT GROUP.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
UM, IT IS THAT THAT'S $600,000 IS, IS ABOUT 9% OF THE BUDGET AND YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT, YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT 9% OF THE BUDGET IS WHAT IT WAS.
UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDED CONTRIBUTION FOR THIS YEAR IN THE BUDGET IS, BUT NOT PERCENT OF THEIR BUDGET IS UP TO YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, THAT'S ITS BASE.
IT'S BASED ON, UM, THERE YOU ARE USAGE OF, OF HOW MANY BOOKS AND, AND, AND CHECKOUTS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
AND OUR EBOOKS WENT UP THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, OUR PORTION OF THE EBOOKS WENT UP.
SO THEREFORE OUR PROPORTIONAL SHARE WENT UP, THEIR BUDGET WENT UP ABOUT, UM, I THINK 2%, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OR SO TOTAL.
WHAT, UH, ZOOM BROKEN? ARE THEY IN THIS CULTURAL CATEGORY OR IS THAT A SEPARATE LINE ITEM? AND OF COURSE THE PANDEMIC HAS RAISED HELL WITH THAT IN OTHER PROGRAMS AS WELL.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE, WE STILL, WE DO.
UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BUDGET.
WE WERE GOING TO, UH, ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GOING TO COME LAST YEAR WHILE THEY WERE, UH, DELEGATION WAS GOING TO COME HERE AND THAT GOT, UH, POSTPONED PRELIMINARILY IN THIS COMING FALL, BUT THAT STILL IS UNRESOLVED.
SO WE DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE COMING YET.
BUT, UH, BRIAN FULLER, UM, HAS THE FUNDS TO COVER THAT IN THE EVENT THAT IT HAPPENS.
A, A QUICK REQUEST AND NOT JUST FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, BUT REALLY ACROSS THE BUDGET OUT
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OF WALK, CAN WE SOMEHOW, OR ANOTHER PUT A ASTERISK OR SOME NOTE BESIDE LIGHT ANIMALS THAT WERE GIVEN SOME TYPE OF ONE-TIME ADJUSTMENT DUE TO PANDEMIC SO THAT WE CUT AND THEN WE COME BACK TO REVISIT THIS NEXT YEAR.WE CAN REMIND OURSELVES THAT IT WASN'T ADJUSTMENT DUE TO PANDEMIC CONDITIONS AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY IN FUTURE BUDGET.
UM, THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE, UM, THEY LAID OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED.
THE 13 FIVE, FOUR, UM, HISTORICAL LECTURE SERIES WAS 3,500.
THE YORKTOWN CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING WAS 4,500.
UM, MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION IS 1200.
THEY ASKED FOR A GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION OF 500, UM, YORKTOWN DAY, A THOUSAND DOLLARS ZAP, ZAP, BROOKLYN STUDENT EXCHANGE, RECEPTION OF 1900 WHERE WE'RE TO COMMEMORATION WITH 500.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS, AND THEY HAD $300 WORTH OF ADMINISTRATIVE IN THERE AS WELL.
THE, THE LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE STAFF HAD ON THIS WERE SOME OF THOSE THINGS, ASSUMED EVENTS WERE TO OCCUR THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE THEY ARE GOING TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
FOR EXAMPLE, THIS VIBE BOOK AND EXCHANGES ON HOLD UNTIL COVID IS RESOLVED.
WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE? WELL, THEY HAD, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO, BUT I HAD A RECEPTION FOR THIS VIBE, BROKEN STUDENTS.
CAN WE NOT? YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
WE, WE HAVE THESE COMMITTEES, WE, WE HAVE THE COMMITTEES, THE COMMITTEES ASK FOR MONEY.
AND WHEN THE PAST, UH, WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WHERE WE, WE, UH, SAID, NAH, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY, BUT WE GOT A COMMITTEE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT, I MEAN, $13,500, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY HERE.
UH, AND IF WE CAN, THAT'D BE SOME WAY, UH, NEIL, THAT WE, THAT IF WE COULD GET THE 13,000 BASED UPON, IF THAT THING DOES OCCUR A GREAT, THEY CAN HAVE IT.
UH, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO DO STUFF FROM THE COUNTY, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO IT.
WE ARE AT LEAST FUND THEM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, JUST TO PILE ON WITH MR. SHEPHERD AND THE SNOW HISTORY.
AND THE YORK COUNTY, I MEAN, IT'S DRIVES TOURISM, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN FULLY FUND A HARRIS HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS IF WE BUDGETED TO THEM AND HAVE SOMETHING DOESN'T OCCUR, IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BUDGETED, IT'S NOT, UH, USER LOSE.
SO MR. MORGAN, WELL, OBVIOUSLY IN THE SCHEME OF OUR BUDGET, THESE JUDGMENTS BY YOU ALL ARE, CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE TRADITIONALLY THIS PAGE IS KIND OF PROBABLY THE MOST DISCRETIONARY OF ANYTHING ON THIS LIST.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE THESE JUDGEMENTS.
WE DON'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY PASS ON WHATEVER SOMEBODY ASKS FOR, BUT, UM, I, OBVIOUSLY, WE, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE.
SO, UH, JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZING THAT THEN, UM, THE, THE GENERAL DIRECTION WE GOT ON THAT PART WAS TO, UH, TO ADD THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB CONTRIBUTION AND TO UPGRADE THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTION.
SO THAT'S ABOUT A ROUNDED ABOUT A $70,000 PLUS UP THAT WE'LL NEED TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOU ALL ON, IN TERMS OF HOW WE, HOW WE MAKE THAT WORK AND ALSO INCLUDING THE YMCA CONTRIBUTION.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS IN MY RECOMMENDED.
UH, MS. NOLAN QUESTIONS, MR. RAMBO, MR. ROWAN.
LET'S MOVE ON, DIRECTOR ETHERIDGE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT COMPENSATION IN THE HEALTH CARE.
I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN WITH HIM.
NOW, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD SPEAK UP, IT'S KIND OF, YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE
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MUFFLED.IS THAT ANY BETTER? THAT'S WONDERFUL.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YEP.
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TO PRESENT THE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS OVERVIEW FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU, WE CAN TAKE THEM AS THEY COME OR AT THE END, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
THE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS OVERVIEW.
WE'LL START WITH OUR COMPENSATION OVERVIEW, LOOKING AT THE COMPENSATION PROPOSAL, AS WELL AS WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND SESSION SECTION, EXCUSE ME, AND LOOK AT THE HEALTHCARE OVERVIEW.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE HEALTH CARE PREMIUM PROPOSALS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AND HOW OUR BUDGETARY DECISIONS WILL IMPACT THE PREMIUMS THAT THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
MOVING INTO THE COMPENSATION PROPOSAL WITHIN THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT IS PROPOSED EFFECTIVE.
NEXT CALENDAR HERE, JANUARY 1ST OF 2022, WE WOULD OFFER A 1.5% GENERAL WAGE INCREASE TO THE COUNTY'S EMPLOYEES.
OF COURSE, WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH OUR NATIONAL TRENDS, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, AND THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE SOCIAL SECURITY.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND, IN ADDITION TO THE 1.5% GENERAL WAGE INCREASE THAT THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE OFFERED, BUT THEY WILL ALSO THEN GET AN ANNUALIZED ADJUSTMENT TO THEIR BASE SALARY OF $1,500.
SO THERE WOULD FIRST BE THE 1.5% WE WOULD GET THOSE CALCULATIONS.
AND THEN THE EMPLOYEES, THE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE $1,500 ACTUALLY ADDED TO THEIR BASE SALARY.
SO I'D LIKE TO KIND OF HELP YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACTS THE EMPLOYEE POPULATION, BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THEM DIFFERENTLY, OBVIOUSLY, DEPENDING ON WHAT SALARY LEVEL THEY'RE AT.
SO WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS FOR AN EMPLOYEE THAT MAKES APPROXIMATELY $30,000 PER YEAR, WHEN THEY EXPERIENCE THIS INCREASE THAT MR. MORGAN HAS PROPOSED, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SEE 6.5% AS THEIR OVERALL INCREASE TO THEIR SALARY.
A MID RANGE EMPLOYEE, MAYBE AT A SUPERVISORY LEVEL, MAKING 70,000 WOULD EXPERIENCE SOMETHING JUST BELOW 4% AT 3.64, AND THEN THE $90,000 BASE SALARY, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE SOMEBODY, AN EXECUTIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL WHEN THEY HAVE THESE CALCULATIONS DONE, THEY WOULD EXPERIENCE A PERCENTAGE INCREASE FEST ABOUT 3% AT 3.16.
SO THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE SALARY RANGE YOU FALL WITHIN.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO HELP THOSE EMPLOYEES AT THE LOWER SALARY RANGES INCREASE THEIR SALARY.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS TO COME INTO OUR ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS AND GROW WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS DEALING WITH ANY CURRENT COMPRESSION ISSUES.
SO THIS IS A VERY EFFECTIVE MEANS, UM, WHICH WE HAVE USED IN PAST YEARS TO HAVE FAIRNESS AND EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO COMPENSATION INCREASES FOR OUR, FOR OUR POPULATION, WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE, AS WE KNOW, WE OFFER A FAIR SALARY STAR EMPLOYEES, BUT THAT IS REALLY NOT THE BEST PART ABOUT WORKING FOR YOUR COUNTY.
THE BEST PART ABOUT WORKING FOR YOUR COUNTY IS THE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT YOU GET ON TOP OF THE SALARY.
UM, ALSO OF COURSE, OUR WONDERFUL WORK CULTURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER TO OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN SKILLED AND QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HELP THE EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR TOTAL PACKAGES, NOT JUST THEIR HOURLY SALARY OR THEIR ANNUALIZED SALARY.
SO WE DO HAVE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO CHECK THIS OUT, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, WE HAVE A TOTAL COMPENSATION CALCULATOR THAT SITS OUT ON THE HR WEB PAGE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF SOMEBODY WHO'S LOOKING FOR A JOB IN YORK COUNTY AND THEY SEE THE ANNUALIZED SALARY, HE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT INTO A CALCULATOR AND QUANTIFY WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEIR FAMILY OR WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL, WHAT THEY TAKE HOME AS A TOTAL BENEFIT PACKAGE.
AND SO OUR HIRING MANAGERS USE THIS
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TOOL QUITE FREQUENTLY TO ATTRACT SOMEONE THAT MAYBE HAS MULTIPLE JOB OFFERS OR SOMEONE THAT MAYBE HAS A JOB OFFER FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT HAS A HIGHER SALARY.WE USE THIS TOOL TO HELP OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS PEOPLE LOOKING TO POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED FOR WORK HERE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE MAKES $47,500 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND THEY HAVE SELECTED THE OAP ONE HEALTH PLAN, WHICH IS OUR OPEN ACCESS PLAN.
THEY ALSO HAVE SELECTED OUR MOST POPULAR DENTAL PLAN, WHICH IS OUR PPO PLAN.
AND THEY ARE A HYBRID EMPLOYEE, MEANING THEY'RE ON OUR HYBRID RETIREMENT PLAN WITH VRS.
SO ALTHOUGH THEIR BASE SALARY IS AROUND 47,000, YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE MEDICAL BENEFITS, THE DENTAL BENEFIT, THE RETIREMENT AND LIFE INSURANCE AND ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS ARE ADDED TOGETHER.
THIS EMPLOYEE IS ACTUALLY ENJOYING A COMPENSATION PACKAGE UPWARDS OF $66,000.
MEANING THE BENEFITS THAT THE COUNTY OFFERS TO THEM ARE ACTUALLY ALMOST 30% OF THE TOTAL PACKAGE THAT THEY ARE GETTING WHEN THEY TAKE ON AND ACCEPT AN OFFER FROM US TO BEGIN EMPLOYMENT WITH US.
AND IF YOU TAKE THAT SAME EMPLOYEE MAKING $47,500, BUT THEY HAVE A FAMILY AND THEY NOW HAVE CHOSEN THE SAME HEALTH PLAN, THE OAP ONE, THE PPO, THE DENTAL PLAN THAT IS POPULAR.
YOU CAN SEE AN EMPLOYEE AT THAT LEVEL WITH FAMILY COVERAGE IS REALLY ENJOYING A WONDERFUL BENEFIT BECAUSE ONCE IT'S ALL ADDED TOGETHER THAT $47,000 A YEAR EMPLOYEE NOW HAS A BENEFIT PACKAGE UPWARDS OF $76,000.
MEANING OUR, UM, BENEFITS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PERSON IS 48% OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE WHEN YOU CARVE OUT THEIR COMPENSATION.
AND THIS IS HOW WE CONTINUE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN HIGHLY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS.
THIS IS WHAT, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, HELPS US TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE SATISFACTION IS AT THE HIGH LEVEL, THAT IT'S BEEN ALL OF THESE YEARS AND THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CITIZENS AND THE VISITORS, UM, EXPERIENCE AS THEY, AS THEY COME TO OUR COUNTY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE ABOUT, YOU'RE NOT JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION, UM, ON YOUR SLIDE, ON COMPENSATION, ON YOUR FIRST SLIDE.
UM, THERE'S A TYPO BECAUSE IT'S GOT THE, UH, THE JANUARY 1ST THING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SLIDE ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, MY BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE SALARY AND CLIQUE CREASE TO BE AS OF JULY 1ST.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE JUST ABOUT EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT AROUND HERE HAD A SALARY INCREASE FOR THE YEAR WE'RE IN.
AND SO WE'RE KIND OF IN A CATCH-UP POSITION, SO THAT IN THE BUDGETED NUMBER INCLUDE THAT JULY 1ST DATE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? CHUCK PLACE COMPENSATION.
WE ARE, I'M LOOKING AT HEAD TO THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2022, CURRENTLY RESEARCHING AND STUDYING THIRD PARTY VENDORS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THAT PROCESS, IN THE MIDST OF THAT PROCESS AS A FOLLOWUP TO AN RFP THAT WAS RELEASED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE PLAN AND PLAN DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, BUT THAT IS REALLY SEPARATE FROM THESE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.
THESE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE POPULATION CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE TO COVER OUR COSTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GO INTO THE SECTION THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS IS GOING ON PARALLEL TO THE PROCESS THAT IS TAKING PLACE CURRENTLY TO CONSIDER THE BUDGET FOR BENEFITS FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE BENEFITS SECTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR DISCOVERY PROCESS FOR CONSIDERING ANOTHER THIRD PARTY VENDOR.
SO WERE, WERE WE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A, UH, A RAISED GENERAL WAGE INCREASE? A MAYOR INCREASE LESS BUDGET? YES, THAT IS ACCURATE.
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WE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO SO OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE DID NOT INCREASE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.ALTHOUGH THERE WERE SOME COST TO THE COUNTY, WE MAINTAIN THE HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND DIDN'T INCREASE THEM IN LIEU OF NOT GETTING THE RAINS.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I I'M SO VERY PROUD TO WORK FOR YORK COUNTY WAS THE WAY THAT WE'VE HANDLED OUR RESPONSE TO COVID-19 IN TERMS OF THE POPULATION, WE DID NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FURLOUGHS AND LAYOFFS THE WAY THAT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DID IN LARGE NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THAT DECISION.
WE DECIDED TO KEEP EVERYBODY BUT NOT RIGHT.
UM, HOW, HOW CLOSE DOES THIS PLAN HERE? THESE TWO BULLET POINTS CATCH US UP AND GOING INTO 20, 22? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL TRENDS, THE COLA, I BELIEVE IS AT ONE POINT, OR WE'RE GETTING MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED THAN WE WERE, UM, IN THE PAST.
BUT OF COURSE, LAST YEAR WE HAD A SETBACK WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE COST INCREASE.
UM, CPI RIGHT NOW IS AT 1.4 FOR LAST YEAR.
AND THE SOCIAL SECURITY COLA IS AT 1.3.
UM, WE ARE AVERAGING 1.4, IF YOU DO WITH TENURE, LOOK BACK.
AND THE COLA IS RIGHT AT 1.4 TO 10 YEAR LOOK BACK.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY RECOMMENDATIONS OR COST OF LIVING.
UM, AND WITH THIS INCREASE, HOW DOES THAT PUT OUR EMPLOYEE'S SALARY IN COMPARISON TO OUR NEIGHBORS? ARE WE IN LINE, ARE WE ABOVE, BELOW WHAT, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TAKEAWAY THERE? WE ALWAYS AIM TO BE AT LEAST IN THE MID RANGE WITH OUR SALARIES, DEPEND ON THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE IN AND THE CAREER LADDER THAT IS IN PLACE FOR THAT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE GENERALLY FALL, UM, IN THE MID RANGE OR JUST ABOVE MID RANGE.
HOWEVER, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO MOTOWN, OUR TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE BENEFITS FOR HEALTHCARE, UM, WE RAMPED THIS UP A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT.
SO IF I, IF I COULD JUST COMMENT ON THAT, I MEAN, I THINK GENERALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND IT IS HIGHLY VARIABLE BY POSITION, BUT IF ANYTHING, WE'RE AT RISK SLIPPING BELOW THE MIDDLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE REAL, IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE WORKFORCE, THE REAL COST FOR EMPLOYEES IS JAMES CITY COUNTY, NEWPORT NEWS AND HAMPTON, BECAUSE THEY EMPLOY MANY OF THE SAME TYPES OF PEOPLE IN LARGER NUMBERS.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE TO KIND OF WATCH FOR.
AND THIS PLAN INTO 2020 TO KEEP US COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE, WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND MORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ARITHMETIC OF THE BUDGET, I THINK IT KEEPS US IN THE GAME.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS MEETING AND OTHERS WOULD TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING FOR YOUR COUNTY HAS SOME BENEFITS BEYOND JUST THE STRAIGHT UP SALARY COMPARISON.
UM, AND SO WE PROBABLY BENEFIT A LITTLE BIT FROM BEING PERCEIVED AS A GOOD PLACE TO WORK, SORT OF SEPARATE FROM JUST THE SALARY, YOU KNOW, WORKING CONDITIONS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF OUR SECRET SAUCE, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS REALLY GONNA ASK THAT FROM THE TOTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE, NOT, NOT JUST THE SALARY, BUT OF COURSE THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT YOU CAN HAVE MONEY TO PUT IN YOUR POCKETS.
AND MOST OF THE OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE SIMILAR HEALTH CARE AND PENSION AND LEAVE POLICIES.
UM, AND IF YOU, IF YOU PEEL IT DOWN, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES THAT THERE'S VERY LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN DEMAND, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS, SOCIAL WORKERS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, UM, THAT, UM, THAT'S THE SAME EXACT SKILLSET IN DEMAND EVERYWHERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S TWO OR THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN A POSITION IT'S NOT QUITE AS THE SAME DYNAMIC.
AND LAST QUESTION AT 1.5% INCREASE THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD IS NOT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE BASED ON SOMEBODY'S PERFORMANCE RATING FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THE EMPLOYEE DOES HAVE TO BE IN GOOD STANDING AND ORDER TO HAVE THAT, UM, AND PRAISE THE EFFECTIVE.
AND YEAH, BUT EVERY ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT YOU MIGHT BE WORKING WITH.
WE DO HAVE WHAT WE CALL WORK AS REQUIRED EMPLOYEES, WHICH ARE HOURLY EMPLOYEES.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, LOOK WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GET THE SAME THINGS, BUT THEY WILL.
UM, A PORTION OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL STAND AND POLICE ON IT, A MINIMUM WAGE, UM, TO THE NINE 50 MINUTE AN HOUR MINIMUM.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME EXCUSES FOR SOME OF OUR WORKERS REQUIRED AROUND THE SAME TIME.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, CONTINUE PLEASE.WE'LL MOVE ALONG INTO THE HEALTH CARE OR BENEFITS AT THIS TIME.
THESE ARE THE PLANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
THEY CAN CHOOSE THE CIGNA OR CHOICE FUN HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, BUT THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT, OR THEY CAN CHOOSE THE CIGNA OPEN ACCESS PLUS ONE PLAN, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ME REFER TO AS THE OAP ONE.
AND THEN FOR OUR POST 65 RETIREES, THEY CAN, UM, CHOOSE TO ELECT BY HUMANA MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND THAT WILL BE THE SAME AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, AS OF JULY, FIRST OF 2021 WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE CHANGES.
AND THE HEALTHCARE PREMIUMS ON PHONES OR ANY DENTAL PREMIUM BACK WAS DECIDED.
AND WE'RE GOING TO CARRY THAT THROUGH THE CALENDAR YEAR AND ANY PREMIUM INCREASES THAT TAKE PLACE WILL TAKE PLACE.
JANUARY 1ST OF 2022 ARE THE HUMANA HEALTH PLAN FOR A POST 65 RETIREES.
WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT IN SEPTEMBER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE CENTERS FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID REPORT THAT OUT.
AND THAT IS WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE COST FOR OUR POST 65 RETIREES.
SO RIGHT NOW THAT RATE IS THAT TWO 31 A MEMBER PER MONTH.
AND IN SEPTEMBER, IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE NEW RATES, THEY WILL ADVISE US AT THAT TIME.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THIS IS WHAT AN EMPLOYEE IS CURRENTLY PAYING FOR OUR HEALTHCARE.
WHAT IS COMING OUT OF THEIR PAYCHECK, DEPENDING ON WHAT PLAN THEY CHOOSE AND WHAT PLAN LEVEL THEY NEED TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES OR FOR THEIR FAM.
AS WE MOVE ON TO JANUARY 1ST OF 2022, BASED OFF OF OUR PLAN UTILIZATION, AND SOME OF OUR HIGH DOLLAR CLAIMS, WE WILL SEE A 6% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, REGARDLESS OF THE HEALTH PLAN THAT THEY'RE IN.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN, THE FIRST COLUMN THERE, THAT IS THE NEW RATE JANUARY 1ST, 2022, THAT THAT EMPLOYEE GROUP WILL BE PAYING.
AND SO JUST TO DIVIDE THAT IN RED, YOU'LL SEE THIS THING, THE CHOICE ON INCREASES GOING FROM ZUORA DOLLARS TO 14.
NOW THE THIRD COLUMN SHOWS YOU THE LAP PREMIUMS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.
AND THEN THE FAR RIGHT, THE FOURTH COLUMN, WE'LL SHOW YOU IN RED, THE AMOUNT OF INCREASE.
THIS IS AGAIN ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
SO SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEE POPULATION HAS MONTHLY CHECKS.
UM, A LARGE PORTION HAS BIWEEKLY PAYCHECKS.
AND SO THE LARGEST AMOUNT WOULD BE THE EMPLOYEE AND FAILING WORK ON OUR OAP ONE.
AND THEY WOULD SEE A $32 INCREASE FOR THE MONTH OR $16 PER PAYCHECK.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE EMPLOYEE AND JOINING THE HSA PLAN WILL ACTUALLY NOT SEE ANY INJURIES.
SO IT DEPENDS ON, UM, I WOULD SAY THE AVERAGE HERE IS ABOUT 14%.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE POPULATION AND YOU SPLICE IT, IT'S, UM, UH, EXCUSE ME, ABOUT $14, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, PER MONTH FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
AND WE HAVE, UM, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GETTING US POSITIVE FEEDBACK, I WOULD SAY ON A WEEKLY BASIS, NOT A DAILY BASIS BASED OFF THEIR EXPERIENCE CURRENTLY WITH CIGNA.
SO WE FEEL THAT THE PRODUCT IS REALLY WORKING, BUT THE SERVICES ARE WORKING FOR EMPLOYEES, BUT WE MUST COVER OUR COSTS, THE COUNTIES OUT OF POCKET COSTS.
AND ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN KEPT IN MIND AS WE MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD.
AND SO 6% IS GOING TO BE WHAT'S NEEDED IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST CLAIM, LOOKING AT THE DENTAL PLAN QUESTION HERE.
SO, UM, SO IS THE, UM, THE SCHOOL PARTICIPATING WITH US IN THIS PLAN IS CALLED BOARD AS OF RIGHT NOW? YES.
SO THEY HAVE THE SAME CARRIER AND THE SAME, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, WE NEVER FULLY CONSOLIDATED.
THEY, UH, ARE RATED BASED ON THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE AND THEY CHARGE THEIR EMPLOYEES DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO.
UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING AS WE, UM, WE COMPETE THE INSURANCE PROVIDER, UM, HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK IN THE
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FUTURE.AND IT TURNS OUT THEIR EMPLOYEE POPULATION IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT AND IT'S NOT CLEAR, UM, THAT TOTAL CONSOLIDATION IS REALLY GOING TO WORK.
SO THAT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO ACTUALLY NOW WE'VE HAD OUR DENTAL PLAN WITH DELTA DENTAL FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, AND WE CONTINUE TO OFFER TWO PLAN OPTIONS.
WE HAVE THE THIRD PROVIDER OPTION PLUS PARKING HERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR EXCLUSIVE PROVIDER OPTION EPO PLAN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT PLAN AT THE EXACT SAME COSTS OUT OF POCKET TO THE EMPLOYEES STARTING JULY ONE.
SO THEY HOLD EXPERIENCE THEIR COMPENSATION INCREASE, BUT THEY WILL NOT EXPERIENCE A HEALTH INSURANCE OR DENTAL INSURANCE INCREASE.
AT THAT TIME, THE INCREASE WILL COME, COME JOIN.
BUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH WILL BE JANUARY THE FIRST OF 2022.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL BE A 6% INCREASE IN ORDER TO COVER OUR OUT OF POCKET CLAIMS EXPERIENCE AND UTILIZATION.
SO THE EMPLOYEES ARE CURRENTLY PAYING THE RATES THAT YOU SEE IN BLACK BASED OFF THE PLAN TIME AND DAY.
AND THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S BASICALLY JUST $1 INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD TO ALL EMPLOYEES ABOVE US AND THE PLAN TYPE AND THE COVERAGE LEVEL, AND THAT SMALL INCREASE WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO REPEAT SOME OF THE COSTS CONTINUE TO OFFER BOTH PLANS SITES.
UM, AGAIN, JUST LIKE CIGNA, WE RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE INVOICE EXPERIENCE WITH DELTA DENTAL, AND THEY'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER FOR US FOR MANY ALL OF OUR DENTAL.
SO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS, UM, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN AND ARE VERY PLEASED TO OFFER THESE PROPOSALS.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR MY TYPO ON THAT FIRST SLIDE, BUT, UH, PROPOSED INCREASES FOR THE EMPLOYEE.
SALARIES ARE PROPOSED FOR JANUARY ONE OF 2021 FISCAL YEAR 2022.
AND SO MOVING ON FROM THE NUMBERS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, UM, WHICH YOU MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY'RE HEARING YOUR COUNTY WORKING FOR US AND WHAT WE OFFER TO THEM TO TRY TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER, OFFER THEM SUPPORT AND HELP TO INCREASE THEIR WELLNESS AND OFFERS SUPPORT IN THE AREA OF WELLNESS.
SO HERE IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, WE DO WORK WITH OPTIMA.
OPTIMA IS THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE ITEM FOR US.
AND SO THIS SPRING, WE HAVE OFFERED LUNCH AND LEARNS THAT EMPLOYEES CAN ZOOM INTO.
WE'VE HAD TIMELY TOPICS, SUCH AS POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER.
THEY HAVE A LOT, OUR EMPLOYEES OBVIOUSLY STRUGGLING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND NEEDING SUPPORT IN THAT AREA AND THE LUNCH AND LEARNS IS AN EASY WAY FOR THEM TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION.
WE WILL BE OFFERING A LUNCH AND LEARN LATER THIS MONTH ON STRESSORS IN THE WORK SITES DURING A PANDEMIC.
AND WE WILL ALSO BE FOCUSING ON SELF-CARE AND BUILDING TRUST IN TOOLS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC MODE.
AND, UM, HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES RETURNED TO WORK THAT MAYBE HAVE BEEN AWAY TELEWORKING FOR AWHILE.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON YOU BUILDING TRUST WITHIN THE TEAMS. WE ALSO HAVE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATING IN OUR WALK FOR WELLNESS, WHICH ON MR. MORGAN SUPPORTS BY OFFERING, UM, PAID TIME OFF TO A COUPLE OF WINNERS WHO ALSO HAVE SOME WONDERFUL INCENTIVES FROM CIGNA, UM, TINTS AND COOLERS, AND, UM, NEAT GIFTS THAT WE CAN GIVE AWAY TO PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN ENJOY.
THE SPRING STAR WALK TO WELLNESS HAS BEEN AN ANNUAL PROGRAM AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A WALKER.
UM, YOU CAN BE A, A RUNNER OR A VOTER, UM, ROWING, WHATEVER YOU LIKE.
WE GIVE THEM AN EXERCISE EQUIVALENT CHART SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THEIR EXERCISE OF TOYS AND STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATE WITH THEIR COWORKERS AND WORK ON THEIR WELLNESS.
WE HAD SOME HEALTHY SNACKS DELIVERED TO ALL THE COUNTY OFFICES OF FEBRUARY AND MARCH FROM FRUIT SIZE.
AND ALL OF THESE ARE PAID FOR BY SIGNAL WELLNESS SCHOLARS THAT THEY OFFER TO US AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT FOR CARE.
SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING COUNTING MONEY, UM, BUT WE'RE SUPPORTING THE EMPLOYEES WITH OUR WELLNESS, WITH THE CIGNA DOLLARS THAT THEY OFFERED US.
AND IN PARTNERSHIP WAS THINKING THAT YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTERESTING BASED OFF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION THAT I WAS PRIVY TO, WHICH IS THE MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID CERTIFICATION THAT CIGNA OFFERS.
IT'S 10 HOURS OF INTENSE TRAINING LEARN TO BE, UM, KIND OF A FIRST DAY PROFESSIONAL, IF YOU WILL, IN TERMS OF MENTAL HEALTH, TO LOOK FOR SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS WITH YOUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES AND TRY TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM SOME ASSISTANCE.
AND SO WE HAD TWO GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS GO THROUGH THIS
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SO FAR, WE HAD ON HER, UM, 50 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY CERTIFIED, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT COURSE IN APRIL TO ANOTHER GROUP OF AT LEAST 20 COUNTY EMPLOYEES.AND I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER THAT.
UM, WE WILL HAVE QUARTERLY EDUCATIONAL CANCER PREVENTION, MAILINGS GOING OUT.
THIS IS BASED OFF OF OUR POPULATIONS, MOODS, AND WHAT THEY HAVE RECORDED THROUGH THEIR HEALTH ASSESSMENTS AND WHAT WE KNOW TO BE THE AREAS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON TO HELP ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET THE PREVENTATIVE SCREENINGS.
SO WE'LL BE DOING QUARTERLY MAILINGS THIS YEAR, UM, TO OUR POPULATION.
AND THEN FINALLY OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO OUR EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY, WHICH IS A REALLY FUN EVENT, UM, WITH OBSTACLE COURSES AND BHUTAN RACES AND DIFFERENT EVENTS.
THE EMPLOYEES ENJOY WE A FOOD TRUCK ON SITE AND THEY GET TEAMS TOGETHER.
UM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING MAYBE WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS AND THIS FALL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OFFER OUR EMPLOYEES THE CHANCE TO COME OUT AT ONCE AGAIN AND ENJOY A HEALTH AND FITNESS GOAL.
DOES THAT INCLUDE DUNKING STATIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? OH, I THOUGHT YOU GOT A SWEETNESS FOR YOU.
THEY'RE OPEN TO, UM, WE COULD DO SOME THREE LEGGED RACES OR MUSICAL CHAIRS.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU GUYS JOIN US, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF ORGANIZATION THAT ARE TELEWORKING, UM, PARTIALLY, UM, WE ARE WORKING REALLY HARD TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED, LET THEM KNOW THEIR WELLNESS MATTERS TO US.
AND SO WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL WELLNESS PROGRAM LIVE WEALTHY 60, AND WE WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GIVE THEM THOSE EDUCATIONAL OFFERINGS AND THAT, UM, SUPPORT AND NOBODY THAT'LL DRIVE DOWN OUR HEALTHCARE COSTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ALWAYS AIMING TO.
DO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE SCIENCE THAT I'VE PRESENTED THIS EVENING? I APOLOGIZE.
MY SYSTEM IMPLODED MOMENTARILY.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T SEE ME FOR A WHILE, IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
UH, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A WHOLE PLETHORA OF QUESTIONS.
UH, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT TONIGHT.
UH, BUT WHAT ABOUT NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS? UH, THE WONDERFUL TWO BIG CITIES TO OURSELF JAMES CITY COUNTY, THE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG, WHAT'S THEIR, WHAT'S THEIR PROPOSED PAY RAISE.
IF YOU KEPT TRACK OF OUR NEIGHBORS WITH RESPECT TO THAT, CAN YOU HEAR ME, MR. MORGAN? YOU MIGHT WANT TO, YEAH, I MEAN, NOT ENTIRELY SCIENTIFICALLY, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE HAMPTON NEWPORT NEWS AND JAMES CITY ALL DID TWO AND A HALF TO 3%, UH, HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THEY ALL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SALARY INCREASE IN JULY.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF FROZE EVERYTHING.
AND THEN WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE COVID, WASN'T SO BAD, UH, MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES WENT AHEAD WITH THE RES WE DID NOT, WHICH WAS PART OF MY ARGUMENT FOR HAVING A FAIRLY STRONG COMPENSATION PACKAGE INTO LIE.
SO I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE, IF YOU TOOK THOSE THREE COMMUNITIES AND YOU TOOK THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE PROBABLY IN THE FIVE TO 6% RANGE.
DID WE HAVE ANY FEDERAL, ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT CAME TO THE COUNTY, STARTING WITH, YOU KNOW, MARCH FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS, YOU KNOW, QUOTE HEROES, UNQUOTE ADDITIONAL MONIES BEYOND, UH, OUR SALARY STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COMPENSATE OUR WORKING MEN AND WOMEN.
UM, THERE WERE, UH, SOME BONUSES AND SOME LEAVE, UH, SELL BACKS, UM, THAT WERE ONE TIME USES OF THOSE FUNDS.
UM, FOR BASICALLY ALL OF THE ALPHA EMPLOYEES, THE PEOPLE THAT HAD TO WORK IN AN EMERGENCY, UH, WE OFFERED A, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO SELL A WEEK OF LEAVE BACK TO THE COUNTY UNDER THE THEORY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE EITHER COULDN'T TAKE A VACATION OR THERE WAS NOWHERE TO GO.
AND SO WE USED CARES, ACT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THAT.
UH, IN THE CASE OF, UM, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, THEY RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL $500 BONUS THAT WAS DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE PASS THROUGH.
UM, AND SO, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOME CARES, ACT DOLLARS IN THAT WAY.
UH, WE DID NOT, NOR DO I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE TO USE THOSE DOLLARS FOR ANY KIND OF ONGOING SALARY INCREASE.
HOW ABOUT PPP? UH, NEIL, DID WE GET PP DOLLARS? THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS WERE INTENDED TO PRECLUDE US HAVING TO LAY PEOPLE OFF?
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NO, THAT WAS THE, THOSE WERE FOR A PRIVATE BUSINESSES.WE DID NOT GET THOSE KINDS OF DOLLARS, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
WE GOT, WE GOT GOOD FUNDING THAT STABILIZED OUR FINANCES AND IMPROVED OUR BOTTOM LINE.
WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FUND WAS SOME OF THAT.
WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THE SCHOOLS WITH THEIR, UH, MASSIVE NEW TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM WHEN THEY WENT TO REMOTE LEARNING, BUT THAT JUST PARTICULAR CATEGORY WAS FOR PRIVATE BUSINESS.
GIVE IT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE, UH, THE EPIDEMIC PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN READING AND BEING TOLD THROUGHOUT THE LAST 24 OR 12 MONTHS, FOR SURE.
UH, MAYBE WE WERE AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
UH, BUT WE KEPT HEARING CONSTANTLY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS, LOST THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I THINK OUR COUNTY BEING YOUR COUNTY, FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN'T TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DID WE SUFFER ANY OF THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE 70 OR SO THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT, UH, NO.
THE X NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED FOR THE COUNTY, DID WE HAVE ANY DEPRIVATION WITH RESPECT TO OUR EMPLOYEES? WELL, A RECALL THAT WE DID CLOSE THE CROSSROADS, UH, JUVENILE FACILITY AND, UH, LAID OFF SIX PEOPLE AND ELIMINATED 12 POSITIONS.
THAT WAS THE MOST TANGIBLE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED COUNTY EMPLOYEES DIRECTLY.
UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THE, THE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE HAD A HIRING FREEZE FOR ABOUT MONTHS OTHER THAN PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT LESS HELP IN THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, BUT THAT WAS THE MAIN IMPACT.
WELL, I THINK EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AS WELL AS THE STAFF CAN ACCEPT AND TAKE A LOT OF HEAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, DARN WELL, THAT WAS RESPECT TO ANY KIND OF A PAY RAISE COMING OUT OF THIS LAST YEAR, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DEPRIVATIONS THAT MOST PEOPLE SUFFERED, UH, AND HERE WHERE YOU ARE PROPOSING PAY, RAISE LIKE OUR, LIKE OUR ADJACENT JURISDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOVERNMENT.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE PAY RAISES WHEN THE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, OF COURSE, NO WAR THAT I GREW UP IS AS FORTUNATE THUS TO, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT LIVE, WORK YOUR COUNTY, UH, ALL THOSE NICE JOB ADJECTIVES, AMY, AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB BRIEFING.
I'VE HEARD THEM FOR 25 YEARS AS THE BASIS FOR A PAY RAISE.
SO NONE OF THOSE ARE BRAND NEW THOUGHTS.
BUT MY POINT IS I HAVE A HARD TIME, QUITE FRANKLY, COMING OUT OF 2020, IT'S DEVELOPING 21 OF SAY, YEAH, WE ALL DESERVE A PAY RAISE.
LET'S GO OUT AND DO IT AND FORGET ABOUT OUR FELLOW CITIZENS THAT MAKE UP THE COUNTY, UH, THE PENINSULA, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M AGAINST IT.
I'M SAYING I'M HAVING A HARD TIME EXCEPT TO GET ANY KIND OF A PAY RAISE COMING OUT OF THIS YEAR.
I CALLED ON YOU AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO RESPOND OR ALL RIGHT.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, DIRECTOR AVERAGE NOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE DO WANT TO KEEP THEM ON AS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS COMPETING WITH, UM, AREA MUNICIPALITIES FOR QUALIFIED STAFF, AND IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BRING THEM ON, THEY'LL JUST GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH OUR TALENT.
SO I JUST ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP YOUR COUNTY, UM, WHERE IT IS, WHICH IS TOP NOTCH AND OFFERING THAT SERVICE.
AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT I'M ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THE BOARD AND SUPPORT MR. MORGAN AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, I, UH, AND MY FAMILY LOVES LIVING IN YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTY HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE BEST COUNTIES IN THE NATION TO LIVE IN AND RAISE A FAMILY.
AND OF COURSE, PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE WORKFORCE THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ENJOY.
UH, YOU GUYS ALL DO STELLAR JOBS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN I LOOK AROUND AND SEE THE DAMAGE TO MOST OF THE FAMILIES IN THIS COUNTRY TO SOME DEGREE OR OTHER, I'M SAYING, BOY, YOU W YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT UP THERE WITH THIS, THIS ANOTHER YEAR.
AND I REALIZED THERE'S NOT A VERY BIG
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PAY RAISE, BUT IT'S A PAY RAISE AND THAT'S.LET'S GO INTO, UH, WE CALL MR. MORGAN THIRD DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS AND THEY PERSONAL PROPERTY, THE DREADED PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
SO IT ASKED TERESA, UH, PUT UP SOME SLIDES ON THIS.
AND, UM, AS MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, UH, A FEW THINGS ALWAYS CHANGED FROM THE TIME WE PUSHED THE BUTTON AND GO TO PRINT ON THE BUDGET, AS THE PROCESS GOES ALONG WHERE YOU FIND OUT A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE STATE BUDGET AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON A FEW THINGS.
SO, FIRST THING I WANTED TO DO IS JUST TELL YOU, UH, WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE I DELIVERED THE BUDGET, UM, THREE WEEKS AGO, AND ON THE REVENUE SIDE, UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TWO TWEAKS.
UH, WE'VE GOTTEN ANOTHER MONTH WORTH OF SALES TAX REVENUE, AND IT CONTINUES TO, UH, BE PRETTY STRONG.
SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE DIALING UP THE SALES TAX REVENUE, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT'S A, A COUPLE PERCENT INCREASE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE MAIN SOURCES ON THE COUNTY SIDE, WE DON'T GET A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE STATE.
THE SCHOOLS GET A LOT, WE GET A SMALL AMOUNT, UH, BUT ONE OF OF THOSE SOURCES IS, UM, THIS PROCESS CALLED THE COP BOARD WHEN THE STATE ADOPTS A BUDGET, UH, THEY SEND US A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.
AND SINCE THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS BASICALLY, UH, TAKE OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS AND WE PAY FOR THE INCREASES IN OUR BUDGET, WHEN THE STATE SENDS US MONEY, IT, IT SHOWS UP LIKE A REVENUE LINE ITEM.
SO THAT 200,000 REPRESENTS, UH, THERESA'S BEST ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE NOW THINK WE'LL GET FROM THE STATE.
SO THE OVERALL REVENUE BUDGET ON THAT, APPROXIMATELY $150 MILLION GENERAL FUND BUDGET LOOKS TO BE ABOUT $300,000 MORE, UH, THAN THE PRINT DOCUMENT THAT WE WENT OVER THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDS, AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T LEARNED ANY MORE ABOUT THAT YET, WE KNOW IT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT AND WE'LL KNOW, WE KNOW IT WON'T BE ONGOING AND WE KNOW THERE'LL RULES, BUT, UM, IN OUR, UM, WE THINK IT'S TOTALLY REASONABLE.
WE TO TAKE OUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE HAD BUDGETED AND NON DEPARTMENTAL FOR COVID RELATED EXPENDITURES.
UM, ALL OF THE MASS AND EXTRA CLEANING AND ALL OF THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN DOING, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IF CERTAINLY THE FEDERAL MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
SO WE TOOK THAT OUT AS AN EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET AND, UH, THE REGIONAL JAIL WHEN THEY FINALLY ADOPTED THEIR BUDGET.
UM, WE, UH, OUR NUMBER CAME DOWN BY 20,000.
SO THAT'S A NET POSITIVE SWING, UH, OF ABOUT 420,000.
IF YOU TAKE THE, THOSE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS, AND YOU ADD THEM TOGETHER, THAT CERTAINLY I'D MUCH RATHER BE TELLING YOU THAT THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
UH, BUT AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S ON $150 MILLION BASE.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE A HUGE NUMBER.
UM, SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TALK THROUGH, UH, MY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RECOMMENDATION, AND OBVIOUSLY HEARD THE REQUEST TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, COULD WE DO ANYTHING TO BEAT THAT DOWN? AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL NEED TO, UM, THINK ABOUT THAT AND GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION.
SO AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL I HAD ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX TOOK US FROM $4 TO FOUR 25, AND THAT'S, WHAT'S ILLUSTRATED HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT PUTS US IN RELATION TO SOME OF OUR NEEDS.
AND, AND THIS IS JUST A, UH, AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR A REAL PERSON.
AND THIS IS ONE VEHICLE, OBVIOUSLY, UM, SOME FAMILIES HAVE CERTAINLY SEVERAL, UM, BUT IF YOU HAD A RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE VEHICLE, A $10,000 VEHICLE THAT CHANGE OVER A YEAR WOULD BE $12 TO $6 PAYMENTS IN DECEMBER AND JEAN, IF YOU HAD A
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PRETTY NICE $60,000 VEHICLE, THAT'D BE $124, TWO PAYMENTS OF 62, UM, SPREAD OUT.SO IF YOU TOOK THOSE WEEKS AND THE BUDGET THAT THERESA HAS IDENTIFIED THAT I JUST REPORTED THE 400 AND SOME THOUSAND, AND YOU JUST, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE.
AND YOU JUST, UH, SAID, APPLY THAT TO REDUCE THE INCREASE IN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX THAT COULD GET YOU FROM FOUR 25 TO FOUR 15, IF YOU DID NOTHING ELSE.
SO I WANTED SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OPTION.
UM, AND, BUT ALSO, UM, OKAY, SO, SO THEN THIS IS THE SAME, THE SAME CONCEPT.
WHAT WOULD IT COST? SO THAT $12 A YEAR COSTS FOR THE $10,000 CAR, WE GO TO SEVEN, THE 127,000, THE HUNDRED AND 20 SOME DOLLARS COSTS WOULD GO TO 74 ON THE, ON THE EXPENSIVE VEHICLE.
SO JUST PROPORTIONALLY, YOU COULD SEE HOW THAT WOULD, HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT YOU PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT I THINK YOU ALL WOULD EXPECT FROM ME IS TO, UM, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WASN'T IN MY BUDGET RECOMMENDATION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ARGUABLY, SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND, UM, BECAUSE AT LEAST THE WAY WE DO BUDGETING IS WE TELL YOU, WE TRY TO MAKE THE MATH WORK AND WE MAKE SOME JUDGEMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S IN WHAT'S OUT.
AND WE CUT A LOT OF THINGS OUT THAT RATIONALLY COULD BE INCLUDED AND WE MAKE SOME JUDGEMENTS TO TRY TO MAKE IT ALL WORK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS AND SOME OF THESE I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, UM, BECAUSE YOU, YOU ALL TEND TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ENDED UP GETTING RECOMMENDED.
AND, AND WE DON'T TEND TO TALK ABOUT IT OUT, ALL THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WE SUGGESTED, OR SOMEBODY REQUESTED THAT WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, THESE FIRST TWO ARE BASICALLY SETTING ASIDE FUNDS FOR FUTURE OBLIGATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN AFFORD TO NOT DO THAT, UH, THIS YEAR, AS I MENTIONED, BUT GENERALLY GOOD PRACTICES.
YOU DO SET ASIDE THOSE FUNDS AS WE HAVE IN MANY YEARS, UM, WHILE WE RESTORED THE $200,000 TO SUPPORT THE STORM WATER OPERA OPERATING CREW, UM, WE HAVE NOT YET RESTORED THE, UH, $400,000 IN CASH CAPITAL FOR THE STORM WATER FUND.
UM, THAT, UH, UNTIL YEAR BEFORE LAST WE HAD, UM, I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION THAT THE WORKER'S COMP FUND IS GETTING KIND OF LOW IT'S DOWN TO SOMETHING LIKE $800,000.
WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT PENDING CASES AND, UH, THAT'S LOWER THAN MAKES US COMFORTABLE.
AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS TO BEEF THAT UP IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT IN THE BUDGET, UM, YEAH.
PRICES, UH, IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE MAKE SOME ASSUMPTION ABOUT WHAT FUEL IS GOING TO COST THE COUNTY.
WE BUY, YOU KNOW, REGULAR GAS AND DIESEL.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF IT, UH, THE, IN THE BUDGET ASSUMES, UH, $2 AND 20 CENTS.
THAT'S OUR COSTS, WHICH IS WITHOUT THE FEDERAL AND STATE TAXES RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PAYING $2 AND 12 CENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE UP QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
UM, DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT WILL, UM, BUT WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO IF, IF IT GOES UP, THEN WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO BURN THROUGH SOME OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND RESERVES.
SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
UM, PUTTING IN A LITTLE BIT OF A CUSHION, WE, WE SPEND ABOUT $750,000 A YEAR, YOU KNOW, ON, ON FUEL.
UM, RECALL THAT IN THE RECOMMENDATION, THE WAY WE MADE THE MATH WORK, WE HAD, WE PROPOSE FOR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES TO COMING IN JULY, TO COMING HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND SORT OF COBBLING TOGETHER, UH, VEHICLES FOR THEM.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD I THOUGHT WE COULD AFFORD IT.
ANOTHER JUDGMENT COULD HAVE BEEN, JUST GO IN FOR ALL FOUR DEPUTIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND EQUIPPING THEM.
UM, AND, UM, THERE WAS ORIGINALLY
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IN, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL, UH, POSITION.IT WASN'T A TRADITIONAL FIREFIGHTER POSITION.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A PROPOSAL TO INITIATE.
WHAT'S CALLED A COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE PROGRAM.
IT'S A BEST PRACTICE THAT MANY LOCALITIES ARE GOING TO WHERE, UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU TRY TO DO IS, UH, START PROACTIVELY INTERVENING WITH, UH, WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL FREQUENT FLYERS, UH, PEOPLE, UM, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADD HOME, UM, POPULATION THAT, UM, CALLS THE PARAMEDICS VERY FREQUENTLY IN A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE GOING TO THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE YOU SORT OF INTERVENE WITH THOSE FOLKS AND, UM, HELP THEM GET WHAT THEY NEED AND AVOID, YOU KNOW, ALL THE REPEATED, UM, CALLS FROM THE PARAMEDICS.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS A REALLY QUALITY PROPOSAL THAT I JUST COULDN'T MAKE THE MATH WORK FOR.
SO THOSE WERE ALL THINGS THAT WERE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION THAT I DID NOT PUT IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, UM, IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT DID AND DID NOT, UH, GET CONSIDERED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT THE GAS PRICES, WHAT INFLATIONARY CHANGES WILL MEAN FOR, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATION AND COST OF CAPITAL.
YOU DO KNOW THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO THOSE.
SO FOR GRANT POSITIONS AND THOSE COSTS WILL GROW IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT HEALTHCARE COSTS, ALTHOUGH IN THE SHORT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A SOLID POSITION ON THE COUNTY SIDE.
SO, UM, UH, I FEEL LIKE I OWE IT TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, IF WHAT I KNOW NOW I HAD KNOWN THREE WEEKS AGO, WE'RE REALLY FOUR AND A HALF WEEKS AGO AT THE TIME I HAD TO SAY, PRINT THE BUDGET.
UM, WHAT WOULD I DO WITH THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THE SAVINGS WE IDENTIFIED? UH, WELL, WHAT I DO IS I WOULD, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO THE FOUR DEPUTIES AND EQUIP THEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
I BUDGET IN ADDITION FOR, UH, THE COST OF FUEL.
AND I'D PROBABLY, UH, RECOMMEND THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY PARAMEDICINE PROGRAM THAT, THAT I HAD TO CUT.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY OTHER REASONABLE PEOPLE COULD PICK SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS OR SAY NO, AND IN OUR ENTIRE BUDGET, THERE'S A UNIVERSE OF OTHER THINGS YOU COULD DO, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A COUPLE OF CONCRETE IDEAS.
SO ONE WOULD BE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE SAVINGS AND THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND CUT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, THAT WOULD BE A SOLID STRATEGY.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, IF YOU'D KNOWN ABOUT THAT $400,000 DELTA, UM, DOING THESE THINGS AND LEAVING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AT FOUR 25, I THINK WOULD BE ANOTHER SOLID STRATEGY.
SO, UM, THAT REALLY IS WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, START THE DISCUSSION MR. RAMBO.
UH, WELL, A COUPLE OF POINTS APPORTIONABLE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE NUMBERS OF DOLLARS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE AS LOW AS YOU INDICATE, UH, ON THE CHART THAT REPRESENTED THE $200,000 INCREASE AND SO FORTH.
THERE'S A $1.9 TRILLION TRAUNCH.
THERE'LL BE SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM WHAT I READ AND UNDERSTAND, POTENTIALLY ANOTHER $3 TRILLION ARE GOING TO BE SPREAD ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
AGAIN, THERE'S MORE GOD-DANG MONEY COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.
NONE OF US KNOW RIGHT NOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO BE, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.
AND IF I, IF I WAS KING, BY THE WAY, I WOULD SIMPLY SAY, NEIL, YOU'RE THE BEST WE'VE GOT.
FIND A WAY TO DO AWAY WITH THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE PERIOD.
AND THAT'S YOU, WHAT I BET YOU THE NEXT DAY, YOU'D COME TO ME AND FIND ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO AWAY WITH IT WITHOUT IMPACTING THE CAPABILITY OF YOUR COUNTY.
UH, JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO BACK TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT AND FAMILIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, THE STATE, THE COUNTIES, THE CITIES.
AND I THINK THERE'S AN INSULT, FRANKLY, WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT MR. PRESIDENT IS DANGLING OVER OUR HEADS TO ACCEPT OUR CITIZENS, DO INCREASE ANY KIND OF A TAX INCREASE, BE IT PROPERTY TAX, REAL ESTATE TAX, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
YOU KNOW, I JUST GOT TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A LEADER ENOUGH TO FIND A REASON NOT TO PUT THIS BURDEN ON OUR CITIZENS.
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OF THE TAX INCREASE.IT'S THE PSYCHOLOGY OF THE TAX INJURIES THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.
AND CONCERNED ABOUT NO, HE LOOKS FROZEN.
UM, THE, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX IS THE ONLY REVENUE INCREASE.
I THINK WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT, UH, CIGARETTE TAX, BRINGING ADDITIONAL REVENUE AS WELL AS A, AN INCREASE IN SEWER, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THE, UH, THE CIGARETTE TAX, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT $600,000 AND, UM, SORT OF NON-GENERAL FUND RECOMMENDING A DOLLAR A MONTH SEWER FEE INCREASE.
AND, UM, SO WHAT WOULD THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT BRING US? YEAH.
UM, UM, THERESA OR BRIAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT ON THE, THAT'S NOT ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.
THAT'S JUST, THAT JUST GOES DIRECTLY TO THE SEWER FUND, BUT IT IS AN ADDITIONAL DOLLAR BURDEN TO RESIDENTS.
PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IS ON, ON THE SEWER.
SO THAT, THAT IS GOING TO BE A IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.
UM, SO IF I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER MY NUMBERS CORRECTLY, UH, I THINK YOU WERE TO LOOK AT, LOOK INTO RAISE HOW MUCH MONEY OUT OF THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE, ROUGHLY WE WOULD ESTIMATE THAT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, MILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL.
SO WE JUST KINDA GAIN ROUGHLY HALF OF THAT WITH THE $420,000, 40%, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY NEED TO DO IS FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO CLOSE THAT $560,000 GAP SO THAT WE CAN FIND WHAT WE NEED TO FIND WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE THIS YEAR.
THAT THAT WOULD BE MY, THAT WOULD BE MY TARGET TO SEEING HOW DO WE CLOSE THAT GAP, NOT RAISE A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND STILL FUND THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO THAT THAT WOULD THAT'S, THAT'S MY CHALLENGE.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM STEVE AND WATER AS WELL, BUT THERE ARE OTHER NEEDS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE ACCOUNTING THAT CAN BE COVERED BY RAISING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
I WOULD NOT RAISE IT TO THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT I WOULD RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK TIME WE'VE HAD THE SAME PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, AND COST A LITTLE BIT HAS GONE UP.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS GONE UP AND THAT HAS NOT GONE UP.
I'M GOING TO GET MR. SCHAEFFER, MR. SHEPHERD.
AND THAT LAST SLIDE YOU HAD UP THERE.
CAN WE PUT THAT BACK UP? I'M SURE.
TERESA, CAN YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN AGAIN? OKAY.
SO KINDA HITTING ON WHAT, UM, GENERAL CONVERSATION'S BEEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO NEIL, AND I THINK, I MEAN, YOU NOTICE, AND I'M JUST SAYING IT FOR ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC'S WATCHING THEM IS IF YOU HAVE TO FIVE, YOU GOT A FIVE, FIVE, FIVE, $500,000 BASICALLY, OR A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, YOU GOT TO SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT TO TAKE, WHERE YOU GOT TO TAKE IT FROM, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, AND I, I MEAN, IN FAIRNESS, UH, YOU KNOW, W YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPERVISORS, WE, WE JUST CAN'T BE GOING WILLY NILLY AND SAYING IT, YEAH, THERE ABOUTS.
WE'VE GOTTA RAISE SOME TAXES JUST TO GET A LITTLE, THIS LITTLE THAT WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS SPEND THE MONEY THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SPEND IT.
AND YOU'RE A BIT OF A VERY WISE PERSON AND A VERY EXPERIENCED PERSON AND DOING THIS BUDGET STUFF.
SO, UM, IN THE END, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SIMPLY, YOU GOT TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE NOW, WALT, RAY'S THE GUY AGAIN, ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION.
TWO IN ONE NIGHT WHILE THIS IS PRETTY GOOD.
UM, IS THE IDEA THAT, THAT THERE IS SOME MONEY COMING DOWN THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
AND, UM, UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT POCKET OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE.
SO JUST TO, JUST TO INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I NEVER MEANT TO SUGGEST THAT THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE TAKING OUT, REPRESENTED THE FULL AMOUNT.
IN FACT, IN MY PRESENTATION THREE WEEKS AGO, I TOLD YOU OUR BEST INFORMATION IS WE WERE GOING TO GET TWO TRONCHES OF SLIGHTLY OVER $6 MILLION, ONE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND ONE ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT RULES, WHAT IT WILL APPLY FOR.
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AND THAT IN GENERAL, WE SHOULDN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S ONGOING IN THE OPERATING BUDGET.THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I'VE TAKEN IT AT THIS POINT.
AND WE'RE NOT WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS, ESSENTIALLY.
BUT, UM, THAT, THAT MONEY THOUGH, NEIL, WASN'T THAT FROM THE FIRST, WHAT IS IT? 1.6 TRILLION.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT THIS 1.9 TRILLION COMING AND THAT'S A NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEW MONEY FROM THE LEGISLATION THAT, UH, WAS JUST APPROVED, BUT WE'VE RECEIVED ALL THE MONEY FROM THE CARES ACT.
AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MONEY'S GOING TO THAT IS NOT BASICALLY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TAXED BY THE STATE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.
THE BOTTOM LINE, IS THAT OKAY IF THE SUPERVISORS SAY DON'T RAISE TAXES, TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE NOW, LOOKING AT THIS LAST LINE.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR DEPUTIES BEFORE, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO TWO, DEPUTY 65,000, IT WAS IN THE PAST THAT A DEPUTY, UH, WHEN YOU HIRED THE DEPUTY, IT CAUGHT, IT CAME WITH A LOT OF STUFF.
IT CAME WITH BELTS AND GUNS AND, AND EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH WE FIGURED IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 130,000 I THINK IS THE NUMBER.
IF I RECALL RIGHT AROUND THERE 130,000 A YEAR.
AND, UH, AND SO THEY INCLUDED A SALARY.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE 65,000 AND HERE'S TELLING ME.
SO RECALL THAT THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE IS TO FUND TWO DEPUTIES FOR THE FULL FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING IN JULY AND FUND TWO FOR A HALF A YEAR, BEGINNING THE FOLLOWING JANUARY.
AND THE LOGIC OF THAT WAS SO WE COULD STAND UP THE YORKTOWN PATROL UNIT IN THE SUMMER OF 22.
AND IT ALSO SAVED A LITTLE MONEY IN NEXT YEAR'S OPERATING BUDGET BY DELAYING HIRING THE TWO IN, IN MY BUDGET, AS I RECOMMENDED IT, UH, FRANKLY, WE WERE, UM, WE WERE GOING TO FUND THE VEHICLES.
UM, WE WEREN'T GOING TO DIRECTLY FUND THE VEHICLES.
OUR PLAN WAS TO DRAW DOWN THE VEHICLE SERVICES, RESERVED ABOUT TWO VEHICLES AND GET, AND HOLD OVER TWO OF THE VEHICLES THAT THEY WOULD TURN IN UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE COULD BUY THE NEW VEHICLES.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOME OF THE FEDERAL MONEY COMES IN AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO WHAT THIS VERSION DOES IS PAY FOR ALL FOUR DEPUTIES AND FOUR VEHICLES AS OF JULY 1ST.
SO LET ME KIND OF GO THEN ANOTHER, ANOTHER WAY WITH THIS.
WHY DO WE NEED MORE DEPUTIES WHAT'S TELLING US OTHER THAN THE SHERIFFS COMING UP, TELLING US WE NEED MORE DEPUTIES WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US THAT IS REQUIRING US TO HAVE MORE DEPUTIES? WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA AT MY FINGERTIPS.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, THE NUMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WE HAVE FOR THE POPULATION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS 25, ABOUT 25% BELOW THE NATURAL NATIONAL AVERAGE.
SO JUST AS A BASELINE NUMBER, WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL OF A TYPICAL AMERICAN COMMUNITY OF OUR POPULATION.
NOW YOU MIGHT SAY WE'RE NOT A TYPICAL COMMUNITY.
UM, MY GENERAL SENSE IS THAT, UH, YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT GOOD TO WAIT AND REACT WHEN YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM AND THEN SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO THROW ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AT IT.
UM, AND THEN IT IS A WAZZER COURSE TO INCREMENTALLY GROW THE STAFFING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PROACTIVE STRATEGY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY BUDGET I'VE BEEN AT THE, UH, THE SHERIFF HAS IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND RECOMMENDED THEM SOME YEARS.
WE HAVEN'T, UH, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM ON THE PRECISE JUSTIFICATION.
UM, BUT IT WAS MY PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL OPINION, UH, THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW LAW ENFORCEMENT INCREMENTALLY.
WELL, I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS IN A MORE GRAPHIC MANNER.
I MEAN, I DON'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO SEE THE MURDER CASES GO UP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT ONE OR TWO MAYBE A YEAR.
UM, AND, UM, OUR POPULATION GROWTH HASN'T BEEN THAT GREAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN LESS THAN, PROBABLY LESS THAN 0.8, I WOULD SAY PRETTY CLOSE TO 0.6.
UM, SO I MEAN, WHEN WE SEE THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING, I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY NEED TO COME UP AND, AND HELP EXPLAIN WHY WE NEED TO BE, UH, SPENDING THIS EXTRA MONEY.
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A HALF THE HALF THE POLICE, OR EXCUSE ME, HALF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WE PAID FOR ALREADY OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE STATE AS AUTHORIZED ARE, ARE WILL THE STATE WILL FUND.AND I KNOW, UH, SHERIFF DIGGS, HIS ARGUMENT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, WELL, THAT'S JUST KIND OF A STATE WHAT THE STATE SAYS.
THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A REST.
UM, AND, AND I AGREE WE'RE NOT TYPICAL COUNTY, UH, W WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR DECADES AND WE'RE NOT SEEING, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IT WAS, WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF CRIME IN YOUR COUNTY.
WOULD I SEEN A LOT OF CRIME IN PROCOSA AND WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF CRIME IN JAMES CITY COUNTY.
UH, WE ARE SEEING IT MORE IN THE INNER CITIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THAT'S A TREND AND, BUT AGAIN, WE, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND UNDERSTAND THIS, AND I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT, THESE, UH, THESE PERSONNEL ARE HIGHLY TRAINED AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND, UH, SO I WOULD JUST KINDA THROWING OUT THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE.
IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH $500,000 WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.
ALSO, I THOUGHT THE ADDITIONAL SHERIFF'S DEPUTY WAS TO GO AND AUGMENT THE PATROLS AT THE BEACH SO THAT WE COULD AVOID OVERTIME PAYMENTS WITH THE EXISTING STAFF THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE TOURISM BUDGET.
IF I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY, YOU ARE STEPHEN WITH A COUPLE OF CAVEATS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD TAKE PRESSURE OFF THE TOURISM FUND, UH, BEGINNING, NOT THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, UH, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.
AND THAT WAS A USEFUL BY-PRODUCT OF THIS AND THE SHERIFF AND THE MAJOR, UH, THIS STRUCTURE, THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED AND APPEALS TO THEM FOR A GENERAL, YOU KNOW, COVERAGE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT.
AND IT IS A WAY TO GET MORE, YOU KNOW, PATROL UNITS FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, BUT REMEMBER THAT IN THE YEAR, WE'RE IN THE TOURISM FUND, LOST $800,000 AND THIS GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT I'M RECOMMENDING SUPPLEMENTS THE NEXT YEAR BY 300,000.
UM, AND SO WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING A PATROL DISTRICT.
THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN JUST HAVING A FEW OVERTIME FOLKS.
WELL, UM, AGAIN, UM, I CAN ONLY GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL OPINION.
UM, YOU READ WHAT'S HAPPENED IN VIRGINIA BEACH, THE LAST TWO WEEKENDS, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE DON'T WANT THAT IN YOUR TOWN.
AND TWO YEARS AGO, WE COMMITTED TO HAVING LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE BEACH IN WARM WEATHER EVERY DAY AND EVERY NIGHT.
UM, AND WE DO, AND I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH IT.
AND, UH, IF WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT'S MORE COST-EFFECTIVE AND SPREADS THE BENEFIT BEYOND YORKTOWN, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
UM, SO THERE WAS SORT OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL ADVANTAGE OF TAKING A LITTLE PRESSURE OFF THE TOURISM FUND YEAR AFTER NEXT, BUT THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T THE MAIN REASON FOR DOING IT? WELL, I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE TO EVERYONE'S ADVANTAGE IF THE SHERIFF WOULD COME UP AND INSTEAD OF US SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE HAVE THE SHERIFF COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO US, UM, WHY NEEDS TO DEPUTIES AND WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.
CAUSE IT JUST MAKES ME FEEL BETTER THAT I CAN JUSTIFY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO SPEND MONEY OR RAISE TAXES.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION THAT, THAT SECONDARY HOT HOP RECRUIT IS STILL ON THE PART OF THE PLAN.
AND, AND REMIND ME WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO COST US ANNUALLY.
SO OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, THAT WAS ABOUT $200,000 BECAUSE ONE OF THE POSITIONS WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR OUT OF THE SEWER FUND.
UM, AND, UM, SO FROM A TAX STANDPOINT, IT'S ABOUT $200,000.
SO ABOUT HALF OF THAT $500,000 WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I CAN ARGUE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT EXTRA CREW.
I GUARANTEE YOU DOWN HERE AND YOU GOT IT, YOUR DISTRICT TOO, AND SHEILA HAS ALSO, WE IN DESPERATE NEED FOR THAT.
THEY WERE BE VERY, A USEFUL ADDITION.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT OR NOT LIKE ANY BUDGET.
AND I'M GOING CHIME IN THE HOPPER CREW IS NEEDED IN DISTRICT THREE, UH, BETWEEN STORMS, HURRICANES, FLOODING, GRASS, CUTTING.
UH, ALSO IF YOU, I'M GOING TO RECALL, UH, THREE YEARS AGO DOWN HERE AT THE WATERFRONT, UH, WE HAD, UH, SOME NOT SO SAVORY CHARACTERS.
WE HAD A SHOOTING, WE HAD SEVERAL ROBBERIES AND, UH, THE RESIDENTS HERE IN YORK TOWN GOT TOGETHER.
I KNOW SHERIFF DIGGS MET WITH THEM.
I KNOW MR. MORGAN MET WITH THEM AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY
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ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR HAVING POSITIVE BEACH EXPERIENCES.AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER DARK AND IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ALTHOUGH I'LL SAY LAST YEAR, WASN'T A GOOD, UH, BAROMETER TO, TO GAUGE.
BUT THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, UH, WAS, UH, UH, VERY GOOD AND POSITIVE A YEAR FOR, UH, THE BEACH AND IT WAS DUE TO INCREASED PATROLS.
IT WAS, UH, CAMERAS THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
AND IT WAS, UH, SOME MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.
SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK HERE IN YORKTOWN AND YORKTOWN'S THE CROWN JEWEL OF YORK COUNTY.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE OWNERSHIP.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COME DOWN ON NICE DAYS AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, HAVE A NICE, SAFE PLACE THAT THE CITIZENS CAN COME TO, UH, ENJOY.
THE OTHER THING IS, AND, AND, UH, MR. MORGAN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THIS, THIS BOARD, UH, LOOKS AT THE MONIES THAT WE RAISED THROUGH TAXES.
IT'S I LOOK AT IT, IT'S NOT OUR, OR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MONEY TO, TO RAISE IT'S THE CITIZENS.
AND WHETHER IT BE A $10 INCREASE OR A $74 A YEAR INCREASE, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
UM, MOVING FORWARD, UH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT THIS MOVING FORWARD.
IF WE COULD DO THIS BUDGET WITHOUT RAISING TAXES WOULD BE PREFERRED.
UH, IF WE CAN'T A SMALLER INCREASE WOULD BE PREFERRED, UH, BUT THE ORIGINAL INCREASE OF 25 CENTS IS NOT PREFERRED BY THE SUPERVISOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
IF I COULD PLEASE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND THE HYBRID CREW THING WE'VE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS AND WHY WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS, MAYBE START SOMETHING WITH THE STATE STATE IS UNDERFUNDED V DOT GROSSLY, GROSSLY UNDERFUNDED.
UM, THEIR BUDGET FOR THIS PAST YEAR WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT 10, $10 BILLION.
OR THEIR BUDGET PLANNING IS 10, $10 BILLION AND SAY, WHAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
HALF OF THEIR IS THE HAMPTON ROAD BUDGET, OKAY.
AND THEY'VE GOT TO COVER ALL THESE ROAD PROJECTS.
AND A BUNCH OF US, THE STAFF WERE OUT THERE ON TYRUS CHAPEL ROAD, DEALING WITH SOME DITCH ISSUES IN FLOODING ISSUES THE OTHER DAY.
AND THEY TOLD THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CREW OUT OF SEAFORD UP THERE, THEY HANDLE A WIDE AREA.
AND IN THAT WIDE AREA, THEY HAVE, THEY SAID THEY HAD 12 PEOPLE.
THE TOTAL, WHEN YOU'RE FULLY MAN, ALL THEY HAVE IS 12 PEOPLE FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOLKS TO DO.
WELL, WE CAN'T DO THESE PROJECTS.
OR THEY CAN'T DO THE PROJECTS.
AND, UM, AND SO HE ENDS UP WHERE EVENTUALLY SLOWLY WE ENDED UP TAKING OVER THE WE'VE TAKEN OVER SOME OF THESE AREAS BECAUSE OTHERWISE OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO IN DEAL WITH THE FLOODING ISSUE THAT YOU SEE IN SEAFORD, YOU SEE UP THERE AND, UH, LAKESIDE DRIVE AREA, OR, AND SHEILA, YOU SEE IT DOWN IN YOUR AREA AND YOU SEE IT MINE A LOT.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BUDGET PARTS, WHERE THE STATE'S BEEN ABLE TO PUSH IT OFF.
AND WE'RE IN THE WE'RE ENDED UP IN RECEIVE MODE WHERE WE ENDED UP HAVING TO SPEND TAX PAYERS DOLLARS, THE STATE'S JOB, OR IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET DONE.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST, THAT THERE'S MORE TO THIS GOING ON, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE, OF, ANYWAY, I JUST, UH, THAT'S WHY IT'S COSTING US MONEY.
AND TOM, JUST TO PILE ON THAT, UH, WHEN CROSSING CAROL GETS UP HERE FOR THE DOT DIRECTOR, HE GETS UP HERE AND TALKS ABOUT THREE GRASS, CUTTINGS, THREE GRASS CUTTINGS A YEAR, WELL FOUR.
WELL, IF, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR CUT THEIR GRASS FOUR TIMES A YEAR, TELL ME WHAT KIND OF, UH, YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REITERATE THAT, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST NOT, THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB AND ANYBODY WHO WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S FOUR GRASS CUTTINGS A YEAR IN THEIR YARD.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE CODES AND COMPLIANCES OVER THERE.
AND, UH, THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IN TOM'S OLD PORT CODE WOULD RUN THEM OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, I KNOW WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE HERE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? ALRIGHT.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
NONE, LET'S MOVE INTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM.NUMBER ONE, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES,
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ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE EMERGENCY HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE FAIR HOUSING PRINCIPLES, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONGESTION MITIGATION AIR IMPROVEMENT, PROGRAM FUNDS PURCHASE OF P R I N S PROPANE CONVERSION KITS, ITEM NUMBER SIX, STREET ACCEPTANCE, POTOMAC RUN, EXTENSION ITEM NUMBER SEVEN STREET ACCEPTS, UH, STREET ACCEPTANCE, OAKWOOD SUBDIVISION ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE MERGER OF THE GREATER PENINSULA WORKFORCE, BOARD AND HAMPTON ROADS, WORKFORCE COUNCIL.ANY SUPERVISORS WANT ANY MORE INFORMATION OR WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANY ITEM SEVEN PLACE NUMBER, NUMBER SEVEN, THE STREET ACCEPTANCE.
I WILL SAY THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
THERE'S A POTOMAC RUN, UH, EXTENSIONS ALSO I'LL ADDRESS BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.
CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NUMBER FIVE ALSO, PLEASE? YES.
WE'VE GOT NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, EIGHT.
UH, MR. MORGAN, LET'S START WITH NUMBER FIVE, THE CONGESTION MITIGATION, THE PROPANE CONVERSION KITS.
HEY, YOU, UH, YOU WANT ME TO JUST DESCRIBE IT? OR YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OR, WELL, LET ME START A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
IS THIS A TOTAL CONVERSION OF THOSE FOOT? WHAT 14 VEHICLES, WHATEVER THE COUNT WAS.
UM, ROB ROB KRIEGER IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND HE OVERSEES FLEET SERVICES.
HE'S, HE'S PROBABLY THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER YOUR CALL.
18 VEHICLES, LIKE THREE QUARTER TON TRUCKS AND, AND BIGGER THE DIESEL DIESEL TRUCKS, I GUESS, IN THE ENGINES OR, UM, NO, SIR.
THE PROPANE IS A PRINT SYSTEM THAT GOES ON THE GAS VEHICLES.
THAT WILL BE, IT WILL BE A DUAL FUEL VEHICLE.
UM, THE IDEA TO, UH, TO BURN THE PROPANE, UH, IT'S UM, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND THERE'S A COST SAVINGS WITH THE PROPANE GAS.
SO ONCE THE VEHICLE HIT HIS LIFE EXPECTANCY, YOU COULD PULL THE PROPANE PRINT SYSTEM OFF THE VEHICLE AND AUCTION THE VEHICLE OFF JUST AS A GAP VEHICLE.
THAT, THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT LIFE CYCLE SO WE CAN REUSE THAT SYSTEM ON A NEW VEHICLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE PROPANE IS A CLEANER FUEL, SO THERE WOULD BE SOME SAVINGS WITH MAINTENANCE COSTS.
UM, UM, THE, THESE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FAIRLY NEW VEHICLES, SO ALMOST LIKE WE'LL GET A SEVERAL YEARS OF USE OUT OF THESE SYSTEMS IN THESE VEHICLES.
GENERALLY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TARGET THE HIGH MILEAGE OR HIGH IDLE VEHICLES, UM, AND THEN PUSH THEM TO THEIR LIFECYCLE WHERE WE CAN A HUNDRED, 120, 130,000 MILES.
AND DOES THE OPERATOR CHOOSE WHICH FUELED HE USES OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THERE'LL BE SOME TRAINING INVOLVED WITH IT.
YOU HAVE TO START THE VEHICLE AND GAS AND THEN SWITCH IT INTO PROPANE.
AND THEN AT IDLE IT'LL RUN OFF PROPANE.
UM, HOW, HOW WHAT'S THE ECONOMY ON PROPANE VERSUS GAS? I MEAN, DID YOU GET MORE MILEAGE OUT OF IT? SO RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR OUR AREA UNDER THE STATE CONTRACT, WE WOULD GET PROPANE AT A DOLLAR 55 PER GALLON EQUIVALENT, BUT THAT WOULD INCLUDE A FEDERAL REBATE OF ABOUT 37 CENTS.
SO IT'D BE ABOUT A DOLLAR 18 RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $2 FOR GAS.
THE MILES PER HOUR, THERE'S AN OFFSET.
YOU GET ABOUT 15, 10 TO 15%, LESS MILES PER GALLON WITH PROPANE, BUT THE COST OF THE FUELS 40% DIFFERENT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY'S COST TO DO THIS FOR THE 18 VEHICLES IS ABOUT $14,400.
THAT'S THAT'S OUT OF POCKET COST TO DO THIS WORK.
THAT'S A THAT'S I THINK THIS IS A WIN FOR THE COUNTY.
I THINK WE'LL COME OUT OF HERE, HERE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
UH, I'VE SEEN THESE CONVERSIONS THAT, UH, NO CHESAPEAKE HAS, UH, NATURAL GAS.
THEY DO, THEY HAVE PRESSURIZED NATURAL GAS.
I KNOW PROPANE IS A DIFFERENT FUEL.
UH, IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE PROPANE VERSUS NATURAL OR GAS? THE, THE ISSUES WITH THE NATURAL GAS OR THE COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS IS WHERE DO YOU HAVE A LINE AND HOW DO YOU REFUEL? SO THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
AND THEN A LOT OF OUR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES,
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WE DON'T HAVE A FLEET REALLY TO SUPPORT IT, UM, OR LITTER AND RECYCLING IS ALL CONTRACTED WHERE THE CITY OF HAMPTON AND CHESAPEAKE AND NEWPORT NEWS, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY DO IT IN INTERNALLY.UM, PROPANE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE LINE, YOU CAN DELIVER IT.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ADVANTAGE OF THE PROPANE.
WELL, THE, THE LINE ITSELF, BUT LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, A LOT OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE GLOUCESTER IS DOING PROPANE CONVERSIONS ON THE BUSES.
SO WHEN WE MODIFY AND RENOVATE FUEL THE FUEL SITE, ONE WE'LL ADD PROPANE.
AND THEN IF THE SCHOOL DIVISION WANTS TO JOIN IN ON THE PROPANE BANDWAGON, YOU KNOW, SO BE IT WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE PREPARED AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS SAFETY, UH, HOW SAFE IS PROPANE VERSUS YEAH.
THE, THE TANKS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'D SEE AT YOUR HOME ON YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR RESIDENTIAL GRILL.
UM, ALL OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE PROPANE TANKS ON, THEY'RE GOING TO GO ON UNDER THE VEHICLE WHERE THE SPARE TIRE IS AND ALL THE TANKS AND THE UPFITTING ON THE VEHICLES IS ALL APPROVED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY AND THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS.
AND THEN MAYBE TO PUT YOU AT EASE A LITTLE BIT EVERY TIME, SEE A BIG RV GOING DOWN THE ROAD, THESE MOTOR HOMES THAT PULL VEHICLES, THERE'S A BIG SQUARE PROPANE TANK IN THERE TO RUN THE STOVES AND THE GENERATOR.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SURROUNDED NOW ANYWAY.
WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TANK CAPACITY ON THESE VEHICLES? UM, ABOUT 20 GALLONS ON MOST OF THE VEHICLES WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PUT THEM WHERE THE SPARE TIRE GOES UNDER THE VEHICLE, SO WE CAN KEEP THE BEDS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKSPACE, UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIZE TANKS.
SO THERE ARE SOME APPLICATIONS WHERE POSSIBLY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SOME PROPANE, BUT GIVING YOU, PUT THEM IN THE CHARGERS, THE TRUNK SPACE CAN BE AN ISSUE, RIGHT.
AND DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ITS OWN SUPPLY TANK OF PROPANE AND REFUEL FROM ORDER? WE GOT TO GO COMMERCIAL.
WHEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PRICE PER GALLON, UH, WHICH IS IN THE STATE CONTRACT OR IN THE SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA REGION HERE, WE'D BE BUYING IT FROM PHILLIPS ENERGY.
THEY WOULD PUT UP, THEY WOULD PUT A THOUSAND GALLON TANK IN A DISPENSER AT OUR FUELS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN ILLUSTRATE, ACCEPTANCE, RON AND OAKWOOD.
I, I WANTED TO POINT BRING THIS TO Y'ALL'S TENSION.
FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE COMIC ONE, UH, CONNECTIONS.
IT WAS A CONNECTION THAT'S KIND OF UNIQUE IN THAT IT CONNECTS, BUT WITH CREEK FARMS AND, UH, WHICH IS A SUBDIVISION AND RUNNING MAN, WHICH IS ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND IT'S GOT A POLE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BASICALLY IT STOPPED CARS FROM USING IT.
UH, AND WHEN WE, WHEN THEY BUILT THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY HAD THIS SPOT THAT WAS NOT, UM, WAS NOT ACCEPTED INTO THE, OR EVEN APPLIED TO IF YOU WOULD, INTO THE, UH, STATE ROAD SYSTEM.
AND FINALLY, AFTER MANY DECADES, THEY CAME IN AND, AND FINISHED IT.
IT'S STILL A WALK PATH THROUGH, BUT THE FIRE TRUCKS, IF THEY NEED TO GET THROUGH THERE, THEY DEFINITELY HAVE AN MEAN HAVE SOME MEANS OF GETTING, UH, UH, ACROSS WITH A KEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY'LL OPEN THE GATE OR PULL UP THE LOG OR WHATEVER.
AND IT, AND THE COUNTY WAS, UH, HAS WORKED WITH A CONTRACTOR TO GET THAT JOB DONE.
AND THEY DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB ON IT.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, THE OAKLAND SUBDIVISION.
AND THIS WAS ONE WHERE I HAVE KIND OF A QUESTION AND SHEILA, THIS IS OVER YOUR DISTRICT.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UH, THIS, I THOUGHT THIS, I THOUGHT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, OR THIS, UH, OAKWOOD WAS PART OF RUNNING, MAN.
I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, PART OF KIM CREEK, IS IT NOT? YES, IT IS.
WHY? NO, BUT WHY I'VE GOT A QUESTION BECAUSE IT COSTS $420,000 TO, UH, DO THIS THE ROAD.
UH, I DROVE THROUGH THERE WITH, UH, BRIAN WOODWARD AND A BEAUTIFUL JOB.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN THERE.
THE ROADS LOOK ALL PRISTINE AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW DO WE GET OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BIT 48? I THINK HE'S GOT 48 HOMES IN YOUR COUNTY WITH ROADS THAT ARE NOT ACCEPTED BY THE STATE.
I MEAN, HOW, HOW DID THEY, HOW DID THAT DEVELOPMENT OCCUR, WHERE WE ENDED UP HAVING TO COME IN AND PAY TO PAY, TO HAVE THEM BUILD THE ROADS, THOSE THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE CONTRACT OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION.
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THIS, THIS GOES WAY BACK.AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT THE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER PASSED AWAY AND YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE TO TALK TO MARK ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, THE COUNTY OF FINALLY DECIDED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HAD BEEN REALLY SHOULD HAVE HAD THE ROADS ACCEPTED.
AND SO WE WORKED FOR MANY YEARS WITH THE DOT AND THE COUNTY UNTIL WE CAME UP WITH A DECISION FOR THE, THAT TO, TO ACCEPT THE ROADS, IF WE GOT THE ROADS FIXED.
AND IT WAS A COMBINATION, IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE DID THE PATH AROUND KILL CREEK ON THE PEOPLE APART AGAIN, THAT WAS A COMBINATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND FEED UP.
OKAY, NEIL, YOU CAN MAKE, YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER IT.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF Y'ALL REMEMBER GOING WAY BACK THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN KING CREEK WAS DEVELOPED, THERE WAS A BIG HASSLE AND A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT STREETS WERE PUBLIC AND WHAT STREETS WERE PRIVATE AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS PRIVATE STREETS COULD BE UPGRADED TO PUBLIC.
AND, UM, I MEAN, I WAS IN THAT, UH, BATTLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS, BUT WHEN I ARRIVED HERE IN 2015, THIS HAD ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED AS A V DOT REVENUE SHARING PROJECT.
AND IT TOOK THAT LONG TO GET IT DONE.
SO I, I INHERITED IT AS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UH, UH, RECEIVED WISDOM THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO GET DONE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW IT GOT LIKE THAT, BUT IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, WE, WE KNOW ABOUT THE BANKRUPTCY AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT HAPPENED DOWN HERE, BUT THE, UH, W I JUST HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE OF THESE WHERE WE LET A DEVELOPER COMING IN AND BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN NOT FINISH THE STREETS, UH, WHERE WE ENDED UP HAVING TO PICK IT UP, SORTA REMINDS ME OF THAT THING.
AND WHAT, AND I THINK MAYBE, UH, CHAD'S DISTRICT, THE, ONE OF THE ARCHES OR ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULDN'T GET, THEY DIDN'T GET COMPLETED.
THE CONTRACTOR DIDN'T MEET THE MEET THROUGH WHAT THEY SAID IT WOULD DO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE ENDED UP PAYING A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND PAID FOR, YOU KNOW, BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN NEVER MAKE ANY BLANKET ASSURANCES, BUT THE SYSTEM LEARNS OVER TIME AS THINGS HAPPEN.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO NOW THAT WE DIDN'T DO IN 2015, WHAT IS THAT, UH, IF THEY ARE, UM, PRIVATE STREETS, THAT WAS NOT A PUBLIC STREET THING THAT YOU'RE REMEMBERING TOM, THAT WAS A PRIVATE STREET THING, BUT IT WAS A QUESTION OF, UM, THE ADEQUACY OF THE INSPECTIONS AND CONTRACTOR HAD DONE, AND WE HAVE A MUCH MORE STRINGENT INSPECTION PROGRAM AND CERTIFICATION PROGRAM.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT, UM, GENERALLY WHEN YOU GO BACK IN TIME, YOU FIND MORE AND MORE OLDER DEVELOPMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME EASEMENT DIDN'T GET DONE, RIGHT.
OR, UH, THERE WAS SOME IRREGULARITY AND, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME THE SYSTEM GRADUALLY GETS BETTER.
WELL, I THINK THE CITIZENS, YOUR COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CARE A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I HAVE OVER 20 YEARS, I'VE WATCHED WHERE WE'VE HAD TO GO BACK AND FIX THINGS OVER AND OVER, NOT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT THEY HAVE COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF, JUST TO ME, IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX SOMETHING THAT GOT THROUGH US.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP SEEING ANY MORE OF THESE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, OR YOUR MAN ON THAT ONE, WALTER YOU'RE ON MUTE.
YEAH, WELL, IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND STREETS AND, AND ACCEPTANCE BY V DOT AND, UH, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, DITCH MAINTENANCE AND SEWER MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH.
WE HAVE A BIG ISSUE IN THE UPPER COUNTY.
YOU ALL HEARD OF, OF COURSE, THE RESERVE AT WILLIAMSBURG, YOU ALL KNOW MARINA'S ABOUT FIVE STORY.
I CAUGHT A COUPLE OF, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, BUT FINALLY, IN THE BACK, ALL OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BEGINNING TO GROW AND GROW FAST, UH, I GUESS THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE NOW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I SUSPECT THAT THERE'S BEEN A CEO.
UM, THAT'S BEEN EXCHANGED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS, IS NOW LIABLE FOR THE DAMAGE THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED
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DIRECTLY TO THE DEVELOPER.AND, UM, I ACTUALLY, I ASKED, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE TONIGHT.
I ASKED, UH, BRIAN WOODER TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY JUST CALLED THREE OH ONE CAROLINE CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RESERVE AT WILLIAMSBURG.
IT'S A VERY NICE SUBDIVISION, THE TERMS OF THE HOUSES AND SO FORTH, WHAT HAS BEEN MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUES RELATIVE TO THE STORE COLLAPSING AND SO FORTH.
AND I SEE BRIAN'S HANDSOME FACE ON THE SCREEN.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM THERE? OH, YOU'RE MUTED.
THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT MR.
THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS ALL PRIVATE ROADS.
UM, AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE STREET SYSTEM, THE STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT RUNS UNDER THE CURB AND GUTTER IS ALSO PRIVATE.
UM, SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH CAROLINE CIRCLE WAS YOU HAD A, UM, A DAI, A DROP INLET THAT FAILED AND CREATE A MONSTER SCENE CALL.
UM, AND ONE OF THE HOMES FRONT YARDS, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, GET THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR, UM, FOR WORK WAS DONE EIGHT, NINE YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT THE, UH, WE CONVINCED THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO GO IN THERE AND MAKE THAT REPAIRS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TECHNICALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY HOA, UM, TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER HOLDS ON CONTROL OF THE HBO HOA UNTIL THE CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS SELL AND THEY DEVELOP IT.
AND IT WAS JUST MOST RECENTLY HE WAS WHERE THE DEVELOPER TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP TO THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS AND, UM, PARKSIDE.
AND, UM, THEY ARE NOW STARTING TO REALIZE, UM, WHAT THEIR MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
UM, THEY HAVE THE BMP, THEY HAVE THE STORM SYSTEM.
UM, NOW THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IS THE COUNTY SYSTEM TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN EXCHANGING EMAILS WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AS FAR AS CLARIFYING WHAT THEIR ROLE IS NOW THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
DID YOU SWITCH, DID YOU SWITCH FROM, UH, THE RESERVE TO ANOTHER SUBDIVISION PARKSIDE? I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY I, I MISSPOKE.
IT'S THE RESERVE, SAME SUBDIVISION.
WELL, SO IN OTHER WORDS, FOR, FOR ALL OF US, IT'S A VERY HIGH SCALE, VERY NICE SUBDIVISION.
UH, IT'S GOT ASPHALT ROADS THROUGHOUT, UH, AND SOMEHOW THE ROADS ARE STILL PRIVATE.
UH, AND V.IS NOT PICKED UP THAT RESPONSIBLE VIENNA WILL NOT PICK UP THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
THE ROAD SYSTEM WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED TO V DOT STANDARDS.
UM, THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS, UM, ARE NARROWING AND BASICALLY A DIVISION.
THAT'S A DECISION THAT'S MADE BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE TIME, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN OF THE COMMUNITY, IF THE ROADS WERE GOING TO BE BUILT TO BEAT OUR STANDARDS OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRIVATE.
AND THAT WAS THE SAME THING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MR. MORGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, UH, WHERE WE HAD TO GO IN AND DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PRIVATE SEAT STREET SYSTEM.
WELL, I WOULD BET YOU DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT THE MARKETING FOR THE RESERVE NEVER MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER DOOR V DOT WAS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THOSE ROADS OUT THERE.
IT'S A COUP ON THE PART OF THE DEVELOPER.
AND SOMEHOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE IMPLICIT BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO BE, OF COURSE YOUR COUNTY AND THE SUBDIVISIONS ARE IN THE COUNTY.
UH I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH YOUR EMAILS BACK AND FORTH TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT IT'S A REAL SHAME THAT, UH, THAT DEVELOPER IN A RELATIVELY NEW SUBDIVISION GETS AWAY WITH COLLAPSING SOURCE SYSTEMS. UH, AMAZING.
NOW, UH, SO THE ONLY RECOURSE THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS, OR THE CITIZENS OF THAT SUBDIVISION HAVE, IS TO SUE, SUE, SUE, OR WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH RESPECT TO THAT? UM, THEY CAN CONTINUE HAVING A GOOD WORK RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER UNDER THE DEVELOPER RECENTLY REPAIRED THE, UH, THE BNP, WHICH IS ACTIVE BEHIND CAROLINE CIRCLE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY, WE WILL ASSIST THEM WHERE WE CAN AS FAR AS PROVIDING ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL DEVICE.
UM, BUT I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES, UM, IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT MR. MORGAN LIVES IN.
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THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE, ALL THE LAKES AND THE HOA HOA COLLECTS FEES FOR THAT ONGOING MAINTENANCE.BUT BRIAN, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SEWER SYSTEM, AS FAR AS YOU'RE AWARE, OUR SEWER SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY.
I THINK MR.
LET'S LET ME, I'M GOING TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR HERE AND, UH, NOT, NOT OTHER EXTRANEOUS THINGS IN WILLIAMSBURG, ALTHOUGH IF YOU WANT TO BRING THAT UP, UH, AN OPEN DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, ALL THE, ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, UH, MR. SHEPHERD ANSWER, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
I DIDN'T MEAN FOR IT TO I'LL I'LL ENTER, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UH, MADAM CLERK, MR. SHEPHERD HAS MADE A MOTION TO MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND MOTION MADE BY MR. SHEPHERD IS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS SUBMITTED MR. ZAREMBA.
[OPEN DISCUSSION]
COME TO THE, MY FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING, OUR OPEN DISCUSSION, AND WE'RE GOING TO START AS WE ALWAYS DO ANYTHING ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP.I KNOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE, UH, CREW HYBRID CREW THAT WERE PLAYED IN, BUT I WANTED TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE APPRECIATED ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE ON THE SPRING, ESPECIALLY ALONG 17 AND LOOKING AT ALL THE DAFFODILS AND THE PLANTINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE DOWN AT THE WATERFRONT, THIS ADDS TO, TO YOUR COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND OFTENTIMES I'LL GET AN EMAIL FROM WALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
I DIDN'T GET IT THIS YEAR, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THIS YEAR, BUT I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THE, THE CREWS, MR. OREGON, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL GO LIGHT TONIGHT.
UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A REAL MEETING TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT, BUT, UH, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SEE IT.
UH, THIS WAS THE OBITUARY OF SECTION OF THE VIRGINIA GAZETTE LAST WEDNESDAY A WEEK FROM TODAY.
AND, UH, IT'S A WONDERFUL HEART MOVING OBITUARY ON JOHN HUDGINS.
UH, WE ALL KNOW JOHN, OF COURSE, JOHN IS A 20 YEAR AIR FORCE VETERAN SERVED HIS COUNTRY.
WELL FOR 20 YEARS, WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, NEIL, I'M NOT REAL SURE HOW MANY YEARS, BUT A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND I THINK, UH, JOHN HUDGENS WAS THE KIND OF GUY THAT WAS KIND OF LOVED AND RESPECTED EVERYBODY WHO RAN ACROSS HIM.
AND W YOU KNOW, WE JUST WISH WE STILL HAD THE LIKES OF JOHN HUTCHES HERE.
UH, THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE, UH, HAS HAD TO DO WITH THE THREE OH ONE CAROLINE CIRCLE UP IN THE RESERVE, WE WILL, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, AND THE LAST THING I'LL MENTIONED IS NEIL, WHEN IS OUR NEXT, ONE-ON-ONE THE ADMINISTRATORS INFAMOUS ONE-ON-ONES, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE WOULD TYPICALLY, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE SOMETIME IN JUNE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD JUST ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULE.
I HADN'T, I HADN'T REACHED OUT FOR TYPICALLY DO THREE.
I WAS HOPING WE'D HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE AND I KNOW THE CHAIR AGREES MUCH SOONER THAN THAT, SO WE'D GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE, UH, WE DISCUSSED THEM IN OPEN SESSION, BUT WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN SLIGHTLY MAKE MYSELF WITH US.
THIS ONE, I THINK IT'D BE REAL QUICK.
I JUST GOT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, NEIL, UM, ABOUT, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING GOING SOMEWHERE RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I KNEW ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT LED TO A QUESTION ABOUT, HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION ABOUT A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ON 17 TO GET OVER TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX? UM, AND ANY BACKGROUND ON THAT? YES.
UM, WE WERE SOMEWHAT PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT V DOT HAD, UM, SOME MONEY TO DO THESE LIGHTED CROSSWALKS ON THE HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
UM, AND IN AT LEAST IN ONE CASE, IT TIES IN WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
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CROSSWALKS ON ROUTE 17.I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR STAFF AND BEAT OUT ABOUT THEM.
I THINK THEY ARE IN OUR FUTURE AT SOME TIME.
UM, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET APPROVED ON A ROAD LIKE ROUTE 17.
UM, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF CONSIDERATIONS LIKE THE MEDIA.
IT HAS TO BE WIDE ENOUGH TO HAVE LIKE A SAFE SPACE AND SOMETIMES THERE'S OPPOSITION BECAUSE IT SLOWS DOWN THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THERE IS A REGION WIDE, UH, BIKE TRAIL PROJECT CALLED THE BIRTHPLACE OF AMERICA TRAIL, WHICH WILL CONNECT INTO THE ROUTE FIVE, UH, CAPITOL TRAIL AND GO ALL THE WAY TO FORT MONROE.
AND THE PLANNING FOR THAT IS, IS FAIRLY ENERGETIC.
THE TPO AND THE PDC ARE INVOLVED AND THE ROUTE IS PROJECTED TO COME ACROSS BEHIND THE AIRPORT, BEHIND GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL TIE INTO THE MAC, AND THEN EVENTUALLY FIND ITS WAY TO THE HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
AND THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT EIGHT OR 10 YEARS.
AND AS PART OF ALL THAT, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOME CROSSWALKS.
THE TIE IN IS ALSO MARK'S COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON A PROJECT, WHICH YOU ALL RECEIVED A BRIEFING ON BEFORE.
ONE OF THE, UH, THERE'S A SPECIAL, UH, PROGRAM, WE'RE EXTENDING SIDEWALKS NEAR SCHOOLS, AND IT'S STILL SOMETIME OUT, BUT THERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN TO HAVE A SIDEWALK ON LAKESIDE, UH, THAT CONNECTS IN WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER POTENTIAL.
SO THE ANSWER IS, I THINK THINGS LIKE THAT ARE IN OUR FUTURE AS THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CONNECTIVITY GRADUALLY GET BETTER, BUT THERE'S NO QUICK FIX THOSE THINGS ARE YEARS IN THE MAKING.
UM, YOU WANNA REMIND FOLKS, I'VE TALKED ABOUT TRASH ON HAMPTON HIGHWAY ON TRASH, ON VICTORY BOULEVARD.
AND I MEAN, IT'S EMBARRASSING.
UM, AND THE DOTS ARE SOMEBODY I WAS GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF NEIL SENT A CREW DOWN THERE TO DO THE PICKUP, BUT THEY PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 20, 30 OR MORE NET 20, PROBABLY 30 OR 40 BAGS OF TRASH PILED UP, READY TO BE COLLECTED DOWN AT THE, DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, HAMPTON HIGHWAY AND, UH, YORKTOWN ROAD, I THINK, UM, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING THAT THESE ARE OUR MAJOR INNER, INNER ENTERING EXTRA POINTS OF THE, INTO THE COUNTY.
AND THEY JUST, PEOPLE JUST THROW IN, I MEAN, YOU ARE MATTRESSES CHAIRS AND COUCHES AND STYROFOAM.
I WOULDN'T PULL OVER AND CLEAN UP SOMEWHAT, BUT I'M GOING TO GET KILLED DOING IT.
UM, THE OTHER THING, IF YOU WANT TO CUT DOWN ON THE TRASH IN, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THE GUYS COME THROUGH, PICK IT UP, THEY TAKE IT, DUMP IT IN THE MACHINE, THEY DUMP IT IN THE CONTAINER.
WIND'S BLOWING 30 MILES AN HOUR.
GUESS WHAT? TRASH ENDS UP ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY? BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PUT IT IN A BAG, YOU PUT IT IN THE BAG AND THEN YOU PUT IT IN A CONTAINER.
AND THAT CUTS DOWN ON THE GARBAGE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT TOO, IS THAT GARBAGE DOESN'T NECESSARILY JUST END UP IN YOUR YARD.
IT ALSO ENDS UP IN THE BAY AND A LOT OF PLASTICS DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I HARP ON ALL THE TIME.
THEY WANT THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS IT'S THEY BROUGHT UP.
YEAH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT THEM ON HAMPTON HIGHWAY.
THE NICE THING IS THAT THE CROSSWALKS ARE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.
THAT'LL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
UM, AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE ONE OVER BY, ESPECIALLY BY, UM, THE LIBRARY AND, UH, IN THE YMCAS, I WITNESSED SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY AND RUNNING MAN, OR EXCUSE ME IN CUME CREEK.
I'M PICKING ON KILL CREEK TONIGHT.
BUT AS I WAS COMING BACK FROM THE GOLF COURSE HEADING TOWARDS, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE VICTORY BOULEVARD, THANK YOU.
NOT GOING THROUGH THE FRONT OFF, CLOSEST TO THE EXPRESSWAY AS I'M GOING THROUGH, THERE'S 35 MILES AN HOUR AND THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OKAY SPEED, BUT THERE'S A CROSSWALK DOWN THERE BY THE PARK.
AND, UH, AND IT HAS THIS YELLOW LIGHT THAT WILL FLASH WHEN, WHEN IT'S THERE.
WELL, THE LIGHT WASN'T FLASHING THE CROSSWALKS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AS I'M COMING THERE.
I SEE THIS GENTLEMAN AND HIS, WHAT I THINK WAS HIS DAUGHTER, UM, ELDER, NOT ELDERLY DOOR, BUT A DOOR PROBABLY 15, 16 YEARS OLD COMING ACROSS AND I'M GOING, OKAY.
I'M STILL DRIVING THREE MONTHS KIND OF WATCHING THIS 35 MILES AN HOUR.
AND THEN AS I'M COMING, GETTING CLOSER, HE STEPS OUT INTO THE STREETS, JUST STEPS OUT RIGHT INTO THE ROAD AND I'M GOING OKAY.
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ME.AND I STARTED SLOWING DOWN AND THEN, AND I KEEP MOVING, KEEP GOING.
AND SURE ENOUGH, HE LOOKED RIGHT AT ME AND JUST KEEPS COMING RIGHT ACROSS.
AND I'M SITTING THERE THINKING, DID YOU KNOW, YOUR BODY IS NOT GOING TO BEAT MY CAR IF I HIT YOU WITH IT.
AND WE HAD AN, SOMEBODY GOT KILLED DOWN THERE ON THAT ROAD.
AND SO CROSSWALKS AND SIGNS ARE THERE TO HAVE WORN AND HELP PEOPLE, BUT THEY IN THEMSELVES, DON'T KEEP PEOPLE FROM THROWING TRASH OUT AND THEY WON'T KEEP YOU FROM GETTING KILLED.
IF YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WALKING IN AN INTERSECTION.
SO THERE'S CROSSWALKS ARE GREAT.
WE PUT SIDEWALKS DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIGHTS.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT MAN, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE SOME PUBLIC EDUCATION.
IT'S GOT TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU GET OUT INTO A SITE AND GET ON A CROSSWALK AND YOU MAY HAVE A NICE WHITE SIGN OR FLASHING SIGNS THAT WALK, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT CAR AND THAT CAR, DIDN'T SEE YOU AND DECIDES TO GO THROUGH THERE AND GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WHAT HAPPENS TO GEORGE RISH? EX-WIFE IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN SHE GOT T-BONED BY A, A GUY FLEEING THE COPS RUNNING A LIGHT.
SO I JUST, I'M STILL GOT MY DREAM AND WORKED UP OVER AT WHEN SHEILA, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT CLOWN WAS, BUT MAN, I TELL YOU WHAT HE GOT ME GOING ANYWAY.
HEY TOM, UH, FOOD FOR THOUGHT, UH, MY QUANTIS CLUB UP HERE IN WILLIAMSBURG, WHICH IS A FAIRLY BIG CLUB, UH, EVERY DURING THE, DURING THE TOUR SEASON, EVERY TWO WEEKS, SATURDAY MORNING, A FLOCK OF US GUYS AND GALS RENDEZVOUS WITH THE HARDYS.
AND WE WALK THE HIGHWAYS UP IN THE UPPER COUNTY WITH BAGS AND STICKS WITH A NAIL IN THE END OF IT, PICKING UP THE DEBRIS OUT OF THE, THE, THE DISHES DITCHES.
AND IT WORKS LIKE, WELL, GET OUT, OF COURSE, IN THE WINTERTIME WE CAN, IT'S NOT NEARLY A PROBLEM, BUT DURING THE SUMMERTIME IN ATTEMPT TO SOMEHOW IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE UPPER COUNTY OR THE HIGHWAYS THAT WE, THAT WE WALK AND PICK TRASH UP, IT WAS SOMETHING TO GET ON WITH THE PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE EDUCATION OF THE CITIZENS.
UH, SOMEHOW THAT'S GOT TO BE DONE AS WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? JUST LEAVE THE GARBAGE OUT THERE, ALL THAT TRASH OUT THERE IN THE DITCHES AND ON THE HIGHWAYS AND BYWAYS.
PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
BUT AGAIN, FOR THE MOST PART, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR SMILING FACES, YOU ALL BELONG TO SOME KIND OF SOCIAL GOODY GOOD ORGANIZATION, AND GO TO PLANT THAT IDEA IN THE MIND TO GET ON WITH PICKING UP THE TRASH.
WELL, THE VA HAS ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROGRAM WORK, YOU ADOPT A MILE OR ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU HAVE TO PICK IT UP FOUR TIMES A YEAR, BUT I IT'S AMAZING THAT.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOUR TRASH PICKING UP WAS COURT ORDERED BACK TO THE CROSSWALK SITUATION.
THINK ADDING TO THAT CONFUSION, AS I BELIEVE THERE'S A NEW LAW NOW THAT SAYS IF THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN, ANYWHERE IN THE CROSSWALK VEHICLES HAVE TO STOP, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE OF THE MEDIA THEY ON.
SO NOW WE MAY HAVE PEDESTRIANS THINKING ABOUT THAT GOING WELL, THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC GUYS TO STOP AND THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP ALL COVERED.
SO THAT'S JUST GOING TO ADD TO IT, I THINK, AND MAYBE THIS MR. BARNETT CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG THERE, BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE WON'T BE EXPECTING YOU TO STOP NOW, EVEN THOUGH HE'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MEDIUM, YOU STILL COME IN.
OH, I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO SEE WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON THAT.
JUST NOT ONLY, I GUESS IT WOULD HELP THE SITUATION.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 20TH, 2021, AND IT WILL BE IN PERSON.
UH, WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO BE BACK IN PERSON AND FULL FORCE, UH, AND UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING IS GOING TO KEEP PRINTING LIKE IT'S GOING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY HERE ON THE 20TH.
[CLOSED MEETING]
UH, WE HAVE A CLOSED MEETING, SO I'M THE SMALL, WOULD YOU TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION PLEASE? THE GERMAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2 DASH THREE, SEVEN 1180, ONE OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.I MOVED AT THE BORDER SUPERVISORS, CONVENIENT, CLOSE MEETING TO CONSIDER A PERSONNEL MATTER MATTER INVOLVING THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
WE'LL CALL THAT MADAM CLERK MOTION'S BEEN MADE.
WE'RE HEADING INTO CLOSED SESSION.